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Darkseid,
I also know same things are happening with Vietnamese and Poland girls. Although I did not heard too many bad stories about Latin girls, except in your case, Darkseid.
I still hope the Latin women can at least partially stand this pressure from the system. Latin culture is in total conflict with Puritanism and feminism.
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part of the assimilation process is peer pressure from other american women the foreign woman might befriend while she is here in the usa or from american society as a whole.
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Lenin,
I think your opinions have a lot of merit. I liked your historical perspective that explains some aspects of the Russian culture pertaining to the male/female relationship. I too often discount the historical power behind a current culture.
I did find your comments about how to treat Russian women to match some comments from the Moldovian section a little while ago. Several posters experienced with Russian women were advising some guy that did not have a lot of luck with Russian women. The message was clearly that Russian women respond to strength from men. Taking them and treating them almost like you own them was the preferred advice. The women presumably did not respect a guy that treated them with respect. Despite the "liberated" mentality of North American women, I think women here respect and are drawn to a man that does not act too "nice" or "respectful" to them also. I just think you can not be as demanding with American(ized) women as you would be with Russian women. Being aloof and indifferent in a friendly manner can attract American women, but a more forceful approach with a Russian woman will get her on your side.
What do you think of this perspective? It ties in to one of my previous questions regarding how you have dealt with American women in the last ten years.
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Many years ago I had a Russian girlfriend.
One evening I accidentally sow her waiting for the taxi with a stranger. With help of my two friends I managed to track her.
One of my friends was former Russian Army Officer - tough guy, who used to treat women like a shit.
My girlfriend went with the stranger to his apartment. We waited near from the door about one hour then knocked in the door and break into apartment. My friend was so upset about whole situation what he beat my girlfriend just in front of her new lover. The lover was scare to death and did nothing to protect her.
It happened what we reunited with my girlfriend after while. She just loved remembers this story. It seems, for her it was best part our relationship.
“If the man beat the woman it means he love her”- she was saying many times. She hated her lover who even didn’t try to protect her.
Surprisingly, she also liked my tough friend and often invited him for dinner. Unfortunately -or may be fortunately -I didn’t have LTR with American women. I tried some attempt in the beginning but I failed miserably.
In that time I didn’t know how situation here is really rotten
It was shocking for me to see how America women disrespect the men.
I remember I just looked at one girl in the bar and she angrily screamed at me: “do not look at me!”. I imagine what would do my tough Russian friend in this case.
I think he would teach her the lesson, which she remembers until end of her life.
I was surprise the women here don’t want make eye contact, don’t want talk to you, refuse go to dance with you. Even after all trouble you manage to make friend with American women it is so boring to talk to them.
I notice when I talk to American women it is such a turn off for me. It is doesn’t matter how beautiful they are. Once American woman open her mouth I feel so bored.
It seems they do not know how to keep the interesting conversation going. They are so primitive and unintelligent in comparison with Russians or Europeans girls. They are so unnatural, frozen and clumsy in comparison with Latin girls. I don’t want to go more in details, they simply just not sexy enough for me.
Now based on my observation and on experience of others, I am just totally ignoring them.
I had Russian women here. She became bitc*. I left her. Last what I heard about her, she manage to get house from her new Canadian husband. One more lucky guy.
I had Brazilian woman. She helped me to restore my self-esteem.
She hated American women and thought they are narrow-minded bitches.
Brazilian women are amazing. 6 times I was in Cuba. Cuban girls are amazing too
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darkseid...
I live in Mexico now, but I only moved here three years ago (I'm in my thirties). I was born and raised in Chicago, but I spent time in Northern California, Las Vegas, and Lousiana.
I'm extremely happy here for reasons other than romantic ones. I love Mexican women, but I love women in general. In the US, the women are more like the men--bold, decisive and often prejudiced when it comes to romance. This can make some men uncomfortable. I wasn't put off by that. I just live my life and if she likes me, then we'll talk. If not, then I don't worry about it. So, if I hit a dry spot with respect to women, then I just continued my mongering hobby until one came along...life was a piece of cake. I've had many satisfying relationships with American women, many more unsatisfying ones, but that's how things are. With Mexican women, you need to be more careful because they will always play like they love you and you never know the truth until much later. Personally, I would much rather have a woman spit in my face now than have her stab me in the back later. Saves me time and money.
Sure, American women have a lot of negative aspects (many have been mentioned previously OVER and OVER), but I have to wonder how many of the negative things said about American women are due to the speaker's own personal negative experiences, prejudices, etc. How many of these ideas have been formed due to their own inherent character flaws? I'm not trying to judge anyone, but the fact is that American men and American women are getting together everyday, millions at a time. People are having decent (and better) relationships all the time. Could it be that ALL 50 million+ American men within dating age are "whipped" or that they ALL like to get it "with a strap-on"? (This is the common attack against me). Could it be that ALL 50+ million women within dating age are b*tches and "feminazis?" Or is it more likely that a small, sub-sect of the male species is simply unable to have a decent relationship with a woman due to their own flaws and hang-ups?
Hey, like I said a million times...do what you like. I don't see American women as any better or any worse than any other group of women...just different. And if you can't deal with the differences, then Good Luck.
Don't bother attacking me because I won't be checking into this section anymore. (Please hold the applause) The only reason I did in the first place was because I had a friend that thought just as you do and about 5 years ago he put a bullet in his own head...He was a good person, a brilliant engineer, but a social mis-fit. He had trouble with his personal skills and instead of turning inward, he started to blame the world. Eventually, a really great guy turned into a dark, brooding shell of a man...and one day he just couldn't take it anymore...
Well, I'll leave you to the world you've created for yourselves. I guess a man never really changes until he bottoms out, but by then it's often too late...take care all and if you want to hear from me again, I'll still be posting in the Mexico section. If you don't want to hear from me again, good...I was getting kinda bored with y'all anyway :)
from: THE HAPPIEST MAN ALIVE
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You know, miller2k, by and large I've enjoyed your posts, and this section periodically (ok, probably more than that) makes me also want to throw up my hands and not check in again, but your last post is simply spiteful at its core. You make a nice case statement for yourself, define your approach and attitude well, but then -- with the disingenuous disclaimer that you're not trying to judge anyone -- from there it's just a gratuitous slap. The dismissive and superior attitude there toward other posters is precisely why you attract the "strap-on" comments.
And this is a comment from someone who by and large agrees with your position and perspective.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by miller2k RESPONSE BY NPAUL
[i]darkseid...
In the US, the women are more like the men--bold, decisive and often prejudiced when it comes to romance. This can make some men uncomfortable. ...
MOST MEN PREFER WOMEN TO BE TRADITIONAL AND FEMININE, THE WAY GOD MADE THEM, THE WAY THEY REMEMBER THEIR OWN MOTHER'S TO BE.
...Personally, I would much rather have a woman spit in my face now than have her stab me in the back later. Saves me time and money.
I PREFER TO LOOK FOR THE KIND THAT ARE SWEET AND DO NEITHER. USUALLY THEY ARE MUCH YOUNGER, COME FROM POOR COUNTRIES WHERE LITTLE IS APPRECIATED (LIKE PHILIPPINES).
Sure, American women have a lot of negative aspects (many have been mentioned previously OVER and OVER), but I have to wonder how many of the negative things said about American women are due to the speaker's own personal negative experiences, prejudices, etc. How many of these ideas have been formed due to their own inherent character flaws?
SO YOU BLAME THE VICTIM, DICKHEAD? TRY FOCUSING ON FEMINISM, WOMEN'S RIGHT'S MOVEMENT, LACK OF HOMEMAKING SKILLS IN WOMEN, AND EXPECTING THE MALE TO STILL PAY FOR EVERYTHING! THEY NOT ONLY WANT EQUALITY, THEY WANT IT ALL!!! YOU ARE THE ONE WITH AN IDIOT CHARACTER FLAW. YOU PROBABLY WERE THE FIRST MALE TO MAJOR IN WOMEN'S STUDIES AT THE UNIVERSITY.
...Could it be that ALL 50+ million women within dating age are b*tches and "feminazis?" NO, JUST MOST OF THEM. LISTEN AND OVERHEARD WHAT THEY ARE SAYING TO EACHOTHER. THEY ARE CONSTANTLY PLOTTING THEIR NEXT TAKE OVER OF A MAN.
...Or is it more likely that a small, sub-sect of the male species is simply unable to have a decent relationship with a woman due to their own flaws and hang-ups?
THE US DIVORCE RATE FROM WOMEN EXCEEDS 60 %. I WOULD NOT CALL THIS A SMALL SUB-SPECT OF MALE SPECIES. THERE ARE NO DIVORCES IN PHILIPPINES AND WOMEN ARE THE SWEETEST TO BE FOUND. MANY MEN HAVE GIVEN UP AND ARE TURNING GAY.
... Don't bother attacking me because I won't be checking into this section anymore. (Please hold the applause)
GOOD.
The only reason I did in the first place was because I had a friend that thought just as you do and about 5 years ago he put a bullet in his own head...He was a good person, a brilliant engineer, but a social mis-fit. He had trouble with his personal skills and instead of turning inward, he started to blame the world. Eventually, a really great guy turned into a dark, brooding shell of a man...and one day he just couldn't take it anymore...
TELL ME WHERE YOU LIVE AND I WILL SEND A GUN FOR YOU, PUSSYBRAIN. YOU PROBABLY ARE A WOMAN IN REALITY AND MAKE UP GOOD STORIES ABOUT YOUR "FRIEND."
Well, I'll leave you to the world you've created for yourselves. I guess a man never really changes until he bottoms out, but by then it's often too late...take care all and if you want to hear from me again, I'll still be posting in the Mexico section. If you don't want to hear from me again, good...I was getting kinda bored with y'all anyway :)
DON'T LET THE SCREEN DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ASS, IDIOT.
from: THE HAPPIEST MAN ALIVE [/i][/QUOTE]
POP ANOTHER PROZAC IF YOU BELIEVE THAT.
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hey guys, chill out, you're getting too serious. Chill out, enjoy life, make up and be friends, you're taking yourselves too seriously. As the victim of spousal abuse and just now recovering after the divorce but still dealing with the virtual theft of my children, all I can say to your is: see the lighter side of life, your glass should be half full or more, NOT half empty filled with bitterness. My 2 cents.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by npaul
[i]POP ANOTHER PROZAC IF YOU BELIEVE THAT. [/i][/QUOTE]
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rendorseg: Point taken, and have already started putting your advice to good use before you posted.
npaul: Man, you must have read my thoughts while I was asleep and posted them here! How in the fuck did you do that?? LOLOL
In May, I'll be traveling to the Philippines with a Filipino friend (his family is well-off) and his wife. He has an "official" itinerary (known to the wife) and a clandestine one (UNKNOWN to the wife) that we'll follow when he lets her go about her business when we get there. If the Philippines are as you say, npaul, I just hope I don't go hog-fucking-wild over Filipina women.
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An American man already biggest suckers in the world. Rest of the world laughed at American man.
In Russia American man have new nickname – pindos. It is sounds in Russian like a gay.
Miller and others like him want everybody here quietly accept this shitty situation and become even bigger suckers.
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Here Suicide Rates are per 100,000 population and
come from the United Nations 1996
Demographic Yearbook published in 1998
Canada 13.4
U.S. 11.1
Brazil 3.5
DR 2.1
Guyana 1.7
Mexico 3.2
Panama 3.0
Paraguay 2.3
Philippines 1.3
In US and Canada men commite suicide in some age
grups 8 times more then women
It is even more striking if you think that all third world countries have huge problems which
Canada and US do not have
I think, it is clear that This System
which repress our sexual needs
commits the crime against its own people mostly the crime against men.
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Glad to see that you guys have also had it with Miller2K and all of his irritating jive. He's nothing but but a snotty little prick who has almost certainly been acting this way his whole miserable little life.
Oops. I forgot that he's "The Happiest Man Alive." You know, one would suspect that "The Happiest Man Alive" would have little or no cause or motivation to go around attacking guys and engaging in viscious verbal attacks on the internet. Pretty safe that way isn't Miller!
I hope that someday he can find the actual "happiness" which is elduing him.
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Miller2K, the reason you are the happiest man alive is that you moved out of this hellhole which is the USA and don't have to face the same bullshit we do. I will follow in your footsteps in moving out of this country and becoming an ex-pat but I won't be as stuck up as you are. The USA is only a place to make money and get the latest technology much like Japan but the similarities between these two countries is that they are both undersexed. I don't totally hate the USA because it has the technological benefits but I would like to live elsewhere where the women are a lot friendlier. And Miller, for your information, I am not a lonely guy and I can get women here but the women here are much less interesting than the ones overseas. Most of them date you but are prudes. Yes, I have a "platonic" relationship which I, of course being the sexual animal I am, am not happy with. In fact, she wants to wait until marriage to do it. I only went out with her because of Valentine's day. And it was extremely difficult to get her and I think it isn't worth the wait. I also had to ask out more than 50 women in clubs, the gym, and internet to meet her in desperation to get a date for Valentine's day. I know, I get a low hit ratio but unlike your friend, Miller, I will not commit suicide because I learned to live with this situation until I get to leave this place.
Perhaps you can post on the Mexico section on how to expatriate from America. I am interested in leaving this country when I save up enough from my 8 to 5 job (lunch unpaid, 9 hour day). I will read your Mexico posts if you can show us how to do it.
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Darkdeid,
I am thinking absolutely same. I am interested in leaving this country too. Probably many guys here would do it. Only one problem is money.
I think we need the new topic:
How to make money or at least save money while going to or living in others countries.
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Just think why somone would be happy in Mexico, the women are traditional and loyal to their spouses, unlike a majority in the U.S. I dated a latina for a while and it freaked me out how much she would serve me, I couldn't get up to do anything. If she wasn't a little loony, I probably still be with her, besides she was looking for citizenship.
Look how women are here in America. If you have a girlfriend or wife and go out, other women try to hook up with you, besides the other married women that want to get laid. I have a relationship too, but I don't let her control me and it drives her crazy. The girl I go out with attempts to manipulate me, but it doesn't work any more. I live by my handle, the big dog, and I am the one in control. I stay with her because the sex is good for now and if something better comes along, I'm there. This American guy isn't any wussy.
The reason I love to get a sw, stripper, or hoe is because I can and its a rush. Its a power and control thing, besides its more economical to pay a minimum amount for a bj or fs than to put up with the bs, money for dating, and the possibility of not getting laid from some stereotypical American woman.
Some women are good, its just the feminazis that want men to be seen as the enemy and us to feel ashamed for being a man. Not me, I'm a man and proud of it.