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Sorry man, you may be right. I should say the US toilet paper and condoms are the best I have found SO FAR in 30 countries NOT including Japan (where I have not been). But in my defense, quality equals value divided by price, a ratio, and may I ask how much toilet paper costs in Japan? And I have heard many complaints about Japanese condoms from others (mainly that they are too small but maybe that is not a problem for you? :)).
Plus lube in a tube is fine if it is water based lube and not petroleum based lube (avoid Vaseline, cooking oil especially directly out of the deep fryer - ouch!, 10W-40, etc). I like it on the inside of the condom when using unlubricated condoms for blow jobs, but now I have mostly switched to flavored condoms for covered blow jobs.
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Dickhead: you seem to be well informed for a Dickhead. Toilet paper here is very expensive (maybe we should go like India and use our left hand instead). At the last oil crisis, the price of toilet paper shot up. Japanese people, though afraid of the coming war, still cannot afford to shit themselves as the paper is going up very quickly in price.
There is no joke like an old joke. Yes, Japanese condoms tend to be small but good things do come in small packages. I certianly like to come in small packages for example.
So you go around comparing toilet paper in all the countries you visit. Sounds interesting. If you get a bj, you should get a bj, not a flavored piece of rubber. Plus your lady friend can get diseases from rubbers in the mouth. I prefer skinless.
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Effectiveness of condoms
Just to be sure that there is no confusion here, the 85% figure is the effectiveness of
condoms in preventing HIV transmission compared to bareback, not the probability that the condom won't break.
IMHO, assuming that NIH did not take into consideration the obvious factors that one could
think of is amateurish. Also, the fact that they considered the data insufficient to infer the effectiveness numbers for other STDs adds to their credibility. NIH is a research entity that bases its conclusions on hard data and scientific methods, not on anecdotes and wishful thinking.
The bottom line is that each reader can draw their own conclusions. I, and the other posters, are providing information and references that people can look at and evaluate.
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Japan certainly has the most expensive condoms that I know of, US$30,40,even $50- dollars for a box of ten condoms. (skinless, okamoto, etc brands are huge.) The top end condoms are expensive largely because, instead of a straight cylinder, they are shaped like, sorry DH, no pun intended, a Dickhead.
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A picture is worth a 1000 words
Here is a picture of the OraQuick 20-minute test kit. Some love it :) , some hate it :mad: . If you are just joining us, start with the February 26 post.
[img]http://www.abbottdiagnostics.com/systems_tests/images/oraquick_item.jpg[/img]
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in my survey group of 3 tries of japanese contoured condoms - 3 of 3 broke. and they ARE too small.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prokofiev
[i]Condoms are 85% effective? I'm willing to bet 99%+ for latex condoms provided they don't break. If used correctly and with a little caution condoms break maybe 1 in 100? So the 85% seems bogus to me and probably covers people who don't know how to use condoms as well as people who SAY they always use them but mean that they usually use them.
Meanwhile, good luck on having the women allow your medical testing. Not too likely . . . [/i][/QUOTE]
The NIH report did not say condoms are 85% effective. It said condoms are 85% more effective than not using anything at all. Hence, you're not going to get fucked up 1 out of every 7 times you poke an infected worker. Rather, you're 7 times better off using a condom than you would be had you not used one.
The report stated .9/ 100 person years as the infection rate for people using condoms, and 6.4/100 person years for people having unprotected sex with an infected person. So if you assume 1% of the general population has HIV, then the rate for HIV transmission with a random person would be .9/10000 person years and 6.4/10000 person years. I dont know what the report meant by a person year.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by nai
[i]in my survey group of 3 tries of japanese contoured condoms - 3 of 3 broke. and they ARE too small. [/i][/QUOTE]
think of condoms as spandexes. if you put a small spandex over a huge body, it rips when the huge body moves. if the spandex fits properly, it wont rip.
so of course the japanese condoms are going to break if you have a big dick. Use bigger japanese condoms, i'm pretty sure they have larger ones for those well endowed japanese. Just dont over estimate your size like most guys. You dont want baggy fit condoms.
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Monkeyman: iintersting but maybe not quite right. What your figures mean is that .9/1000 you are in the ballpark or bedpark to be hit with a HIV bug. But the the HIV bug is anti social. It hits say only once every 100 times; therefore your 1000 has to be multiplied by 100 (assuming 100 to be right). Now what this actually means is if you are a good boy, if you are not into fist fucking, poppers, jacking up on smack in shooting galleries, you are probably pretty safe. Chlamydia etc are much more social and the 100 would probably have to be replaced by 8 or 9.
Thanks anyway for taking the pressure off Japanese condoms. Okamoto incidentally is the world's biggest condom company. The main thing is to have an unbroken skin and to kep the top covered.
On another topic: am I the only guy on the planet who does not like having my balls chewed? Women seem to think my balls are chewing gum and it always hurts me. Is there something (else) wrong with me?
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I've never had a rubber break in 25 years. Had a few come off, but only when I was pulling out after the fact.
Skinless, I agree. I'm not into the nut swallowing or chewing either. Having them licked however, is fun!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by skinless
[i]Dickhead: you seem to be well informed for a Dickhead. Toilet paper here is very expensive (maybe we should go like India and use our left hand instead).[/i][/QUOTE]
The majority of India is Hindu, not Muslim. Those parts use "traditional Hindu cleansing" with leaves and twigs. They do not use their left hand.
I don't like having my balls chewed either. Just suck my dick and stay away from my balls.
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[quote]Originaly posted by monkeyboi
I dont know what the report meant by a person year.[/quote]Instead of measuring the risk per encounter, some studies measure the risk per (total number of encounters a typical person in the study has in a year).
[quote]Originally posted by skinless
What your figures mean is that .9/1000 you are in the ballpark or bedpark to be hit with a HIV bug.
ETC.
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No. They mean to become INFECTED with HIV, not just "hit." Read the report.
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Someone who actually used the fast test kits :) . This is abridged from a post on another board:
I read about portable HIV testing, and called Abbott in Thailand and
Vietnam (see below). I was directed to a medical supplier which turned out to be a large drug store and got a box of 100. Put on a drop of blood, drop of reagent, than drop of cleaner and if the + sign turns red its positive.
Just ask if they want a free test most seem happy to have it. I have not run into a positive. If I do, I have already decided that I would take the person for a confirmation test. Confirmation testing is available all over Thailand cost about $20.
Thailand
Abbott Laboratories Limited
9th Floor, Nai Lert Tower
2/4 Wireless Road
Bangkok 10330, Thailand
Telephone: 66-2267-9060
Vietnam
Abbott Laboratories, S.A.
48, Truong Son Street
Tan Binh District
Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Telephone: 84-8-844-8985
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prokofiev
[i]And do you use lube INSIDE the condom as well? Or only outside? I read a tip somewhere that lube inside is very pleasurable. AND IT IS. If the condom is large enough you can slide in and out of it a little and it has a different feeling. But I don't do that often . . . maybe I should. [/i][/QUOTE]
Yep...I wrote that on this board some time ago as well. You just put a tiny drop of lube into the tip of the condom before you roll it on - although you have to be careful that you don't go overboard, or the condom will slip off. My clients always said it felt good.
There is a brand of condoms here called "Ansell Extra Pleasure". They have a straight shaft - slightly tighter than regular condoms - and a large 'bulb' shape on the end. (Much more pronounced than the 'flared' condoms, which get gradually larger towards the tip). The baggy bit at the end acts as a foreskin, by rubbing back and forth over the head of the penis during sex. Add a bit of lube inside these condoms, and apparently it's just about as good as the real thing. The tighter shaft makes sure the condom doesn't slip. I don't know about availability overseas, but I'm sure there would be something similar.
And no, I was neither bragging, nor complaining. I was...errr....confessing. LOL
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RN that's a great idea!! I've never heard of that one. There's a brand called Inspiral here in U.S. that has a spiral shaped front that supposedly provides friction and some users on another board have reported liking it. Didn't work for me the one time I tried it.
skinless, I also hate it on the few occasions women did that ball chewing/sucking. Licking is fine.
Monkeyboi and nai, I think some of the Japanese condoms break not because of size, but because of thiness and sensitivity. The Japanese are almost obsessive of thiness of condoms. The expensive condoms will say '0.2 microns(or whatever) thickness'. The more expensive, the thinner. Up to US$50 for ten. Also they use non traditional materials like so called 'sheerlon' etc instead of latex. A regular condom can stretch to fit a watermelon, or haven't you filled condoms with water, like for parties and stuff? I doubt anyone's dick is as big as a watermelon. It's the friction that breaks the condom. Anyone who says that his dick's size broke a condom.. well, it's not his dick that's too big, but his head.