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Other Firsts
During my trip last month, I actually won the double 6's on one Thursday for the first time. I always wondered if the dice were loaded to prevent anyone from winning, but I can now confirm that it is indeed possible to win free entry at Oase.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1814046]Girls will not do things if they have a low rate of success. The reason they ask for a tip at the money locker, is because it has worked for them in the past.
"Melon Drop Scam" is something that only works on upscale marks. Video targets customers in upscale part of London.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaYAGPr6qDI[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice video. I never heard of that particular scam until now. Thanks for sharing. As for girls asking for tips at the locker, I prepared a few silly answers for that question if it happens to come up when I don't feel like giving a tip. There are many ways to say no to a girl's request for a tip, but that don't feel like a rejection and still leave the girl in good spirits.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1813949]Maybe because you're the only guy who has ever complained about a locker?
[/QUOTE]I never complained about a locker, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. The complaint I referred to was a complaint directed to a restaurant staff member who was briefly rude to me unlike the rest of the staff there who seem to be quite customer service-oriented. With the exception of that one staff member, I was quite positively impressed by the courteousness of all the Oase staff. I wholeheartedly commend Oase for their customer service (at least with respect to my personal experiences there).
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1814035]Large portions of the staff at many clubs are RO.
If you handed the Oase girl a few hundred EUR at the money locker, I'd be surprised if she asked you for a tip.[/QUOTE]The RO staff is normally the chill ones though.
And who says it was at the locker? It was even before we got to the room. Can't remember the context though.
Nice video though. The same girl did infact mention that her pussy was hurt... guess she just turned it around a bit.
My point was that when the scam gorls gets figurred out, it will or can fall back on them threefold if they missjudge the customer...
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And who says it was at the locker? It was even before we got to the room. Can't remember the context though.[/QUOTE]Did you have a prior session with this girl? Girls will bring up the subject of a tip or a present before / during the room, but I believe it has always been with girls I know. "Next week is my birthday". "Tomorrow is St Nicholas day". These happen so regularly I hardly remember. I tune it out like a nagging wife. Usually it's said half-jokingly. Presumably if I get upset, they would just backpedal and tell me that it was just a joke. Either way, their intent is to plant a seed or to make me feel some guilt.
To me it is not a serious request, until they hold out their hand at the money locker. Or they continue holding out their hand, after I've already paid them. These are instances that stick out in my memory.
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It was the second session I had with the girl I think. But also my last, because as you say these things does stick. If she hadn't pulled it on me, I would probably go with that girl again.
The birthday scam is a bit overused though. I sometimes pull that one towards the girls too.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1814086]
Nice video. I never heard of that particular scam until now. Thanks for sharing.
[/QUOTE]One of the victims in the video mentioned something about the scammer's beauty, so her beauty probably made the man more willing to comply with her request. Most pretty girls from a young age know how to use their charms.
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As for girls asking for tips at the locker, I prepared a few silly answers for that question if it happens to come up when I don't feel like giving a tip. There are many ways to say no to a girl's request for a tip, but that don't feel like a rejection and still leave the girl in good spirits.
[/QUOTE]My rule is to never give a tip when a girl asks. I've only broken that rule twice. I've had confrontations at the money locker where the girl accepted the money and stormed off mad (not over tips but time disputes). But next time I saw them they were all smiles. So as far as I know, there were never any negative repercussions. But perhaps I lost out on some future "off-the-clock" freebies that they might have felt compelled to give me, had I been less of a hardass.
Whether it is trying to get a tip or something else, often the girls are using rehearsed routines. By you using humor, they might think that you are onto them:
[URL]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Game[/URL]+Recognize+Game.
"One person uses tricks or cons by twisting words and phrases to get what they want from another person, but the second person identifies the words as a trick or con, understands the deception and tells them they have been caught. ".
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1814035]Large portions of the staff at many clubs are RO.
If you handed the Oase girl a few hundred EUR at the money locker, I'd be surprised if she asked you for a tip.
The girls make calculated decisions. At a club with a lot of tourist traffic, asking for a tip probably doesn't diminish their long-term earnings. If a customer only hands over a 50 EUR note, girl probably figures it doesn't hurt to ask for a tip. Worst case scenario, she loses out on repeat sessions with someone she deems to be a cheapskate customer. If it is some American or Asian customer that she has never seen before, chances are she will ask for a tip. She has no idea when that customer might return again.[/QUOTE]Which clubs are you referring to that has large portions of the staff being Ro? I know Oase is now. In the past, it was different. I recall Oase used to have Polish working serving refreshments, recall a Thai guy, and I forget the bartender way back, really cool guy, wasn't a Ro. The staff I have seen throughout different clubs were Germans, Polish, Serbian, typically immigrants of course. I have met ex-WGs working at clubs too, polish. Aca staff are Hungarian, Turkish, etc.. GT has ex-WG on the front desk, with staffs Germans, Polish, etc.. PHG I believe were German staff also. I recall Polish staff at DV.
Conversely is likely, a punter that spend much will likely be asked for tips. Especially at the money locker with his wallet open. Probably higher proportioned tip at that.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1814039]I'm very happy small brunette Jenny, ex Mainhattan, doesn't accept AO sex for money. She has all her life to live and I don't want to go with girls who provide AO sex.[/QUOTE]Oase is not an AO club, so I'm puzzled why he would bring up AO. That part I don't understand.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1814198]Which clubs are you referring to that has large portions of the staff being Ro? I know Oase is now. In the past, it was different. I recall Oase used to have Polish working serving refreshments, recall a Thai guy, and I forget the bartender way back, really cool guy, wasn't a Ro. The staff I have seen throughout different clubs were Germans, Polish, Serbian, typically immigrants of course. I have met ex-WGs working at clubs too, polish. Aca staff are Hungarian, Turkish, etc.. GT has ex-WG on the front desk, with staffs Germans, Polish, etc.. PHG I believe were German staff also. I recall Polish staff at DV.
Conversely is likely, a punter that spend much will likely be asked for tips. Especially at the money locker with his wallet open. Probably higher proportioned tip at that.[/QUOTE]Girls at LR order their food, drinks, request fresh towels in Romanian. Sharks, Samya, Mondial the same. And Oase as mentioned.
Yah you could be right about girls asking for tips from big spenders. Thats a case by case basis whether girl wants to push her luck like that. Girl may realize that customer is big spender only with her. Or girl may realize he is a big spender with 4-5 other girls in the club. If a girl thinks man is wrapped around his finger, she knows she can get away with more. And may ask for things that will lead to the big score that will allow her to retire from WG life.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1814039] I don't want to go with girls who provide AO sex. [/QUOTE]You already did without knowing it.
HB.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1813894]I am baffled at your surprise of lack of BBFS. BBFS is explicitly against the rules at Oase.
...You just have to survive the first hour of your visit. In my case for example, none of the girls ever bother me...During my last trip, most of the staff had learned my name and shouted greetings to me as I passed by in the club...[/QUOTE]Well don't worry, I'm plenty experienced and understand these things. I didn't express surprise regarding BBFS, I expressed dissatisfaction. Regarding it being against the rules, at most I'd say it's functionally "don't ask, don't tell. ".
As for "surviving" the first hour, that just shows how normalized this poor behavior has become. There are many places where this is against club policy. E. g. Bernd's, many of the sauna clubs, and even the looked down upon RTC's.
And good customer service is good only when it's offered to all and from the outset. But sure, once you've dropped hundreds of euros I'm sure you get better service. I said they were surly, not stupid!
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1814198]Which clubs are you referring to that has large portions of the staff being Ro? I know Oase is now.[/QUOTE]Yes, Oase has a high portion of Romanian staff: Reception, bar, cleaning. World has mixed staff, Polish, German, Romanian. Palace also mixed, increasing portion of Romanians. Sharks also mixed, some Romanian girls cleaning and in the kitchen.
HB.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1814199]Oase is not an AO club, so I'm puzzled why he would bring up AO. That part I don't understand.[/QUOTE]Because I was explaining what I found lacking relative to my personal wish list.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1814237]You already did without knowing it.
HB.[/QUOTE]Siri only sessions with a handful of girls and even less in Hessen. Guys who care to put forth effort will now be able to deduce with high probability which of his girls offer AO
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1814254]Siri only sessions with a handful of girls and even less in Hessen. Guys who care to put forth effort will now be able to deduce with high probability which of his girls offer AO[/QUOTE]I doubt that as I was not referring to a particular girl. But BBFS is offered in all clubs and with his impact rate there's a 95% chance that he has booked a girl offering BBFS to some of her clients. They also will with their boyfriends. So. Use a condom.
HB.
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Arrived in Germany last night. Chilling at my hotel and trying to do some work this morning. Heading to Oase later. Probably get there about 3 pm. If anyone wants to say Hello, please do. Black hair going grey and mostly grey beard & moustache. More than likely I'll have my reading glasses perched on top of my head when not using them while I use another pair which help me see the girls better!