[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2060420]Remember when Oase was a 'service' club?[/QUOTE]For me, still is. Largely but not always.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2060420]Remember when Oase was a 'service' club?[/QUOTE]For me, still is. Largely but not always.
[QUOTE=Beffen1;2060573]WRONG. HIV positive male with high viral load ejaculates down the throat of WH with a raging pharyngitis or tonsillitis (bacterial or viral sore throat) whose pharynx is loaded with inflammatory cells could catch HIV. HIV virus preferentially infects inflammatory cells like lymphocytes / macropages. Or a WG who flosses or brushes too much, or who bit her tongue, or who has necrotizing papillitis of the gums- that's when it feels good when you probe between your teeth to cause pain.
Prof Dr Beffen.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.google.de/search?q=risk[/URL]+of+hiv+transmission+heterosexual&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=ltVnWcPmGJCy0%20 gW6%20 rpngAg.
Well we should just give all providers free tonsillectomies and quarterly dental cleanings plus put all providers on doxycyline and truvada then.
[QUOTE=Beffen1;2060573]WRONG. HIV positive male with high viral load ejaculates down the throat of WH with a raging pharyngitis or tonsillitis (bacterial or viral sore throat) whose pharynx is loaded with inflammatory cells could catch HIV. HIV virus preferentially infects inflammatory cells like lymphocytes / macropages. Or a WG who flosses or brushes too much, or who bit her tongue, or who has necrotizing papillitis of the gums- that's when it feels good when you probe between your teeth to cause pain.
Prof Dr Beffen.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2059891]Please do not delude yourselves guys. EVERYTHING has changed, don't just look at a few posts where during the transition period some guys managed to get a BBBJ. You may get it, you may also end up in a jail cell (and Germany does not work on "common law" - look it up).
I managed to get it (I was lucky) and one girl had an "accident" where it slipped off. That's two girls out of dozens interviewed. My advice is to be very careful. Accept reality, no matter how harsh.[/QUOTE]Sorry but this is just nonsense and not borne out by the facts on the ground. I was at Artemis last week. It is known as probably the most sharky club out there maybe other than Palace. NO attempts at upsell. NO suggestion of CBJ. Read the Lounge forum and a brilliant analysis in Bild. There is not one single local authority in the whole of Germany which believes the new law is enforceable. It is NOT possible to end up in a jail cell. The penalty is a fine and it does not even carry a criminal record. It is impossible to prove non-condom use unless the WG is a police officer and then it is entrapment. Last night I visited Harmony again (Hamburg) another very enjoyable night and not a single mention of CBJ other than when I asked about their interpretation of the new law. The girls said the club had warned them about the law but none of them would practice it for fear of getting no clients who will pick girls who give BBBJ as standard. So, it's not possible to enforce the law, it is not a criminal offence, the girl cannot be prosecuted for it only the guy, it only carries a fine if caught (hefty but no jail) and my 2 visits to two different clubs since July 1 have resulted in normal BBBJ service. The only way things will change is if there is public announcements of successful convictions and fines. And that's really hard to see. It will always be one person's word against another. Anyone who thinks things have changed, or will change, is suffering paranoia. Chill and enjoy.
[QUOTE=Creature2;2060349]Hi, sorry for late reply. I had four sessions in two days, all the girls asked 50 Euro extra for DFK, I politely declined. DATY, I have been asked for extra but I am not into it for a while so I declined also, but I guess you might receive both services for free of charge, if you are lucky enough or if you smartly choose the right girl. Girl selection is crucial. Those services were included in the price of 50 Euro once upon a time in Oase.[/QUOTE]I am sorry Creature2 but all the girls I went with include DFK in the session and even olenly kiss in the public areas and when sitting together in the Kino. This is all post 1 July 2017.
Good times. Line up is fantastic.
2 black girls.
Valentina ro.
Adele ro.
Roxanna ro.
Katrina ro.
Carolina ro.
Alexia ro.
Carla ro.
Many others.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2060584]Sorry but this is just nonsense and not borne out by the facts on the ground. I was at Artemis last week. It is known as probably the most sharky club out there maybe other than Palace. NO attempts at upsell. NO suggestion of CBJ. Read the Lounge forum and a brilliant analysis in Bild. There is not one single local authority in the whole of Germany which believes the new law is enforceable. It is NOT possible to end up in a jail cell. The penalty is a fine and it does not even carry a criminal record. It is impossible to prove non-condom use unless the WG is a police officer and then it is entrapment. Last night I visited Harmony again (Hamburg) another very enjoyable night and not a single mention of CBJ other than when I asked about their interpretation of the new law. The girls said the club had warned them about the law but none of them would practice it for fear of getting no clients who will pick girls who give BBBJ as standard. So, it's not possible to enforce the law, it is not a criminal offence, the girl cannot be prosecuted for it only the guy, it only carries a fine if caught (hefty but no jail) and my 2 visits to two different clubs since July 1 have resulted in normal BBBJ service. The only way things will change is if there is public announcements of successful convictions and fines. And that's really hard to see. It will always be one person's word against another. Anyone who thinks things have changed, or will change, is suffering paranoia. Chill and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Exactly.
The authorities have not even worked out whether its the police who is controlling or if its the Health authorities who is controlling this law. It was discussed on German teletext recently.
Girls are concerned about losing business.
Some clubs like the three Clubs that HB says that BBBJ have been banned are using hardline rules to get their point across whovh is going to lose the girls work.
Already in those clubs the clients are considering no longer attending since the girls have been told to stop with the BBBJ.
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2060420]Remember when Oase was a 'service' club?[/QUOTE]Maybe, in 2008 and 2009 and 2010 and '11 and '12. Those were the days.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2060608]I am sorry Creature2 but all the girls I went with include DFK in the session and even olenly kiss in the public areas and when sitting together in the Kino. This is all post 1 July 2017.
Good times. Line up is fantastic.
2 black girls.
Valentina ro.
Adele ro.
Roxanna ro.
Katrina ro.
Carolina ro.
Alexia ro.
Carla ro.
Many others.[/QUOTE]I simply was not that lucky this time. Or maybe selection of the girls was not right in my case. A week before, I was luckier in NRW, in ACA, I liked the recent lineup of ACA also, I wish I could prolong my stay, it was the last week of June, before the new law and there were lots of pretty young girls I could session. Most of my 40 euro sessions was with passionate DFK and BBBJ. My buddy in crime, my wingman also was lucky on the girl selection. He also had received good service for just 40 bucks, I believe on service level, ACA beats Oase. But now, after 1st of July, things might be sad in ACA.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2060608]
Good times. Line up is fantastic.
Valentina ro
Alexia ro.
Carla ro.[/QUOTE]Ever sessioned with them? No chance to get a decent standard session including BJ, DFK, DATY and CFS out of them for 50€. Valentina demands 50€ extra for DATY. Carla is chasing non regulars, preferably Asians. Alexia still in great shape but rushed uninspired service.
Still I agree, line up is great.
HB.
[QUOTE=Creature2;2060681]Maybe, in 2008 and 2009 and 2010 and '11 and '12. Those were the days.[/QUOTE]Spot on. Service at Oase began to decline after 2012. Now you have to pay twice as much for the same services you used to get back then.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2060743]Spot on. Service at Oase began to decline after 2012. Now you have to pay twice as much for the same services you used to get back then.[/QUOTE]Depends on the girl.
If you go back to 2002 - 2008, service was never a question. In none of the Hessen or NRW clubs.
HB.
Aren't Asians used to CBJ?
I heard they have BJ only establishments in Japan. Are they covered only?
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2060697]Ever sessioned with them? No chance to get a decent standard session including BJ, DFK, DATY and CFS out of them for 50. Valentina demands 50 extra for DATY. Carla is chasing non regulars, preferably Asians. Alexia still in great shape but rushed uninspired service.
Still I agree, line up is great.
HB.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2060765]Depends on the girl.
If you go back to 2002 - 2008, service was never a question. In none of the Hessen or NRW clubs.
HB.[/QUOTE]But if you go back to 1996-2002, there was never a single upsell at Oase. Ever!
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2060765]Depends on the girl.
If you go back to 2002 - 2008, service was never a question. In none of the Hessen or NRW clubs.
HB.[/QUOTE]...and then something stirred at Palace...
[QUOTE=Pistons;2060840]But if you go back to 1996-2002, there was never a single upsell at Oase. Ever![/QUOTE]The earlier you go back the better the service anywhere in the world. The best plan is to enjoy the providers as much as possible now before it gets even worse.