[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1913256]I. I'm not sure that a complete service to include several positions, BBBJ, DFK, DATY was ever a certain guarantee for a 30 minute fuck session in any of the Big FKK Clubs at any point in time [/QUOTE]It was.
HB.
Printable View
[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1913256]I. I'm not sure that a complete service to include several positions, BBBJ, DFK, DATY was ever a certain guarantee for a 30 minute fuck session in any of the Big FKK Clubs at any point in time [/QUOTE]It was.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1913296]It was.[/QUOTE]We will have to disagree. You think (in the goood old days) it was an absolute and complete certainty for a customer to get a good and complete service from every WG in every FKK / Sauna Club (in Germany) during a 30 minutes session. I think it was never a complete certainty. It was just very likely that a customer would get good service particularly if he was a sex tourist turning up at a club for the first time. A certain amount of good judgement and luck has always been required. Guys have been complaining on this board about bad service for years and years and years. As I said we will just have to agree to disagree and let others judge the logic of the argument and judge who is correct.
It was a rare occurrence but I can remember getting bad service in Oase from Louisa 6 or 7 years ago. Unfortunately it is becoming increasingly difficult to get good service during a 30 minute session in recent times.
;)
Seems some oase girls are more inclined to start kissing on the 2nd or 3rd session as well. And some kiss allways. So its not all black. But talk to them beforehand about what they do. They are all trustworthy like that, and never change when they come to the room. At least in my experiences.
Over half still kiss on first go...
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1913296]It was.
HB.[/QUOTE]I'd have to agree with HB. I've been around way back when Oase was a reliable club in terms of service.
There are clubs out there where 1 HR pre-agreement doesn't exist and still get good service.
Agreeing to 1 HR is not an option with a girl I haven't session before. This type of union-ification as CK puts it was what created the reputation of Palace.
Solution is easy for me. Attend other alternatives (with Romies still) where such types of service arrangements do not occur.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1913342]I've been around way back when Oase was a reliable club in terms of service.[/QUOTE]I am in agreement that Oase was a reliable club. Why would you think that I said otherwise? :rolleyes:
I just dont think it was ever an absolute lock down certainty that every 30 minute €50 session in all the major German FKK / Sauna Clubs would be guaranteed brilliant. Read back through the years and see all the complaints from guys who visited any of the Big FKK / Sauna Clubs :)
Like PL I go to clubs where the service level remains near the levels it used to be in Oase. I'm not saying there aren't excellent providers in Oase now, but I can't be bothered with the extra risk.
Thanks Pistons for your 50% estimate. It reinforces my decision not to return to Oase. There are other (and often cheaper) clubs where it is 90 to 100%.
Auslander, yes we have always complained of bad service, but getting DATY. DFK (and even public sex if you wanted) was pretty much universal and we need not to accept the restriction of service. Best clubs are those with lower percentage of foreign visitors,(generalisation).
We are all agreed I think that it is more difficult to get good service now, as you say Auslander.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1913276]Thanks for all the reports it's pretty clear I won't go to Oase next month. For me kissing is mandatory.[/QUOTE]My opinion is that unless you have only a day or two to spend in the clubs, you should visit at least a couple of them to figure out which clubs you like, and not base this on just what you read here. I am not a great one to advise on DFK, since I limit myself to DFK' ing only those girls I truly like, but there are plenty of girls who have been reported as providing DFK at Oase. I fucked this girl Veronica on the couches in kino last month and she began kissing me deeply by herself w/o me asking for it and after a min I closed my lips because it's not my thing with every single girl. She was quite pretty in my view. Just one example.
And obviously every single girl at Sharks does not DFK either. Perhaps anecdotally a higher percentage might, but that's just that - Anecdotal. A whole lot depends on the the specific girls you choose, and how the chemistry goes.
Well, clubwise it is probably a better percentage. But I base it of the top 20 ish girls. So the fillers who might have to provide extra well to compete I don't count in. And its possible to bargain in the kissing on a slow night. If they start kissing, they'll allways kiss (you at least). The kissing for 50 extra allways is not that many. But I've heard rumors and experienced maybe 5-6 girls doing it
Heard from one guy I met at sharks that he had a simillair experience there, so its probably not 90% there either.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1913408]
Heard from one guy I met at sharks that he had a simillair experience there, so its probably not 90% there either.[/QUOTE]What that girls at Sharks now do upselling for DATY, Kissing in a 50 Euros session?
[QUOTE=Jooeey;1913418]What that girls at Sharks now do upselling for DATY, Kissing in a 50 Euros session?[/QUOTE]Ask the girl before going to room, because some don t kiss at all. Steffi and Alea at Sharks, Alena claiming to be half German at World, Valentina and Sasha at Aca, don t kiss, or not really DFK, but many others kiss until the first minute in room, at least with me, without even speaking about time to spend in room, and my game extend the time, when the girl plays GF with me.
I m not a 50 €/30 mn guy, too short for my foreplay, even at Globe for 140 €/30 mn, but no upsell for me for kissing and DATY, at Sharks, World or Mainhattan, only Jasmin at Mainhattan who wanted 100 for 30 GFE mn, rather than staying 1 hour, so she stayed sitting at the bar all along birthday.
At Oase before, with Maria platinum, even Roxana, Ina. Lat of course, and Tatiana. Ru, no upsell, only club rate, 100 for 1 hour for me.
There's girls trying to upsell or rip off clients or not performing "club standard" (you may agree or disagree that it exists or existed) at almost any club. Some have a higher, some a lower percentage. And years ago the percentage at Oase was a lot lower, same for Palace and other clubs.
HB.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1913389]My opinion is that unless you have only a day or two to spend in the clubs, you should visit at least a couple of them to figure out which clubs you like, and not base this on just what you read here. I am not a great one to advise on DFK, since I limit myself to DFK' ing only those girls I truly like, but there are plenty of girls who have been reported as providing DFK at Oase. I fucked this girl Veronica on the couches in kino [/QUOTE]I have only four days to spend around Frankfurt, and based on my experiences in NRW with GT or PHG for instance, I totally hate all the upselling part or the time-cheat attitude. I'll be very pissed off to have to face it again, so I think I'll do two days in Shark and one or two days in World.
When I was at FKK Dietz in May, I got talking to a friendly local guy in the sauna and we got around to talking about the big clubs in Frankfurt.
He said ''Those clubs are only for the International young Playboy guys now. The girls are only interested in guys who spend big money per zimmer. These clubs arent for ordinary guy who only make 2000 per month anymore.''
I'm inclined to agree with him.
If guys are so willing to go for one hour sessions straight away or pay extra for kissing etc, its no surprise the hoors have become greedy and expect that.
They might have international audience now especially in July. But 'young audience'? I've never seen an older audience than at sharks, and I even had 2 different girls there pointing that out. Sharks has the highest average age for the guys attending there among all the clubs these two girls had been to as well... its like 'fucking grandpa's'. Thats how one of the girls described it. LoL.
Maybe thats why Silvana is still making money there...
Oase has a bit lower age for the guys. Maybe average 45 insead of 50-55 at sharks... but a club like oceans or even artemis has an even younger age for the guys... especially oceans. Maybe average age of guys at oceans now last night was as low as 35. But low attendance so a group of locals and a large group of dutch guys lowerred it. But its probably higher on normal days and on fri/sat.
If you really knew Sharks, You should know granny Sylvana catch younger guys than the prettiest girls at Sharks. I remember little hairy, but not on the head, old guy, being sucked many times by pretty brunette Maya, at the pole.