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[QUOTE=Craiova;1916681]Wow you even write more BS here than S&S plus PL together.
We talk about money and P6 and nothing else. But in one thing I agree with you a minority about max 10 % of the club girls prefer fun, young guys and so on but the majority of 90 % of the girls are at the clubs for making money and they prefer than even old guys.[/QUOTE]Okay cool. I'm BSing. Next time we are in a club together just ask to look at my phone for some great pics. Please don't impose your lack of game on me.
I do agree that some girls prefer the older guys who take less effort and who maybe are also more generous with money. However those girls specifically don't like the young guys that bang too hard and bargain too much, not young guys as a whole.
But again, don't impose your inability to actually make real connections with girls on guys who can, and blame it on BSing or young naivety. Like I said, I'd love the opportunity to go through my phone with you and brag about my accomplishments, especially to prove you wrong. My next trip is in September but perhaps August.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916653]Depends, I'd take the info of a 35 year old monger with 5 years experience over a 55 yo monger with 15 years. Let's get real, AMD no offense to you older guys, the 35 year old is old enough to not be naive but is young enough to have a more authentic connection with a 25 year old girl, someone who is his peer.[/QUOTE]Didn't your Sharks fav say to you, she is Moldovan? On first time I met her, she understood I know quite well Megan, since 1 year, because of something I said and she was very surprised I could know it, so she said to me her real name and where she is from, even before our first room, just when speaking about Megan, who was her friend when she arrived. Times changed very fast. So, authentic Romanian connection seem full of lies. She didn't want to go with me anymore, because I became too big for her vagina, not at all because of my licking games, as another member wrote, but 2 weeks ago, she said to me, now she wants again. I will always like her, after my 10 rooms with her, but she broke my desire.
About Megan, I prefer her eyes and teeth than her nipples, I prefer Diana breasts. Many messages are given with eyes and smiles, when You know women. Girls understand very fast what kind of guy we are.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916672]That would be true except for the fact that girls have turned down 2 hour sessions with an old guy for a 1 hour session with a younger guy, personal experience. If you're an older guy, that might hurt your ego but those are the facts.[/QUOTE]Many girls tell me they prefer to have sessions with older guys. Some may very well be BSing me but I suspect some BS the younger guys as well.
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They all tell you what they feel YOU want to hear. It's their job.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1916665]LOL but in this business like in almost all others only money counts. And with no surprise useally a 55 yo guy has spend more money in clubs than a 35 yo guy.
Maybe what you mean is at a disco but 100 % sure that isn't the case at a FKK club.[/QUOTE]So you completely missed the part in the Artemis razzia where 'a girl in love' started the whole thing?
[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1916748]They all tell you what they feel YOU want to hear. It's their job.[/QUOTE]
True, but even the girls are human beings... and not everyone is equally cold blooded, or equally good actresses... some girls does different services to different guys. and the connection factor is there in many cases... and some girls long for a life outside this industry too. perhaps not now, but maybe in a few years, and as they don't have much time outside the clubs to date guys, some takes it into the clubs also. But this is one side where the older guys has it harder to connect than the younger guys. And lots of info can be gathered through this aspect...
But one thing is very true in this situation we are in, it is extremely hard to be 100% certain of anything. Some girls could be telling the truth once in awhile, yet since they lie about other things, we wouldn't believe them. Or since other girls have lied in simillair situations, we would assume they are all the same.
Now after thinking about my last statement regarding married girls doing better service than 'just pimped girls', I have to change that into 'girls with children does better service'. And the reason is most likely that they do it for their child. To make more money for their child/children they must build up their reputation. And these are the girls who also works the longest shifts.
Just pimped girls can in some clubs work alot. And in other clubs work less. But their service are in general much worse than non-pimped girls, or the girls with kids, or the girls who wants out of the industry one day and look for a guy... (and it is not just May/Oase. quite a few more)
Getting into HB's e-peen discussion, probably aimed at me (even though he misses the mark on my visits by a fair share) among others is rediculous, and reminds me of an elitist 20 year old internet gamer. If he cannot back his points, then just leave it. Blank statements. Besides, we are not discussing part time workers with full time workers either like it seems he does.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1916758]So you completely missed the part in the Artemis razzia where 'a girl in love' started the whole thing?
[/QUOTE]I completely missed the content of most of your posts. Most of them theoretical garbage without any truth about the club girls. Only completely garbage about your connection between service level of club girls and her marital status.
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There are many more "poor" guys in love with prostitutes, than 20 yo Romanians in love for Aslan or American or Western Europeans guys. They do this business to survive from their home misery but can t forget their roots. Some are skillful to sell illusion, that s just what I m looking for. For true love, I will go in my mountains to find a bear female with round ears, who will lick me everywhere to warm my heart, not a girl fucked all day by fat, old, Turkish, Arabs, for only 50, even there are angel girls among them, but their job is a love killer.
But I agree for mum who are usually, not always, more skillful than 18/20 warrior girls, but not because of husband who ran away or is not able to work to food his wife and child, but because pregnancy made them become more woman, more comfortable knowing better their body, more sweet, and when You treat them like a woman, when You say to them how they are pretty with their mum tits and belly full of life, then they smile and it s often fireworks. They are just women and even in brothel, with their mum body, they just need to be said they are pretty, when they were let alone by their man. I can see how superstar Kate looks at me, looking at her putting on full light, putting off her bra and panties, touching and caressing her body, kissing her belly, a real chicken skin and I love her eyes.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1916758]So you completely missed the part in the Artemis razzia where 'a girl in love' started the whole thing?
[/QUOTE]The "girl in love" was in love with a 81 er, not with a client. What does it have to to with the topic discussed? Nothing.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1916758]
Now after thinking about my last statement regarding married girls doing better service than 'just pimped girls', I have to change that into [b]'girls with children does better service'. [/b]And the reason is most likely that they do it for their child. To make more money for their child/children they must build up their reputation. And these are the girls who also works the longest shifts.
[/QUOTE]Now it is getting more and more ridiculous. Tomorrow you will change your statement to "girls with belly piercing give better service". It is about as valid as your current statement.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916653]Depends, I'd take the info of a 35 year old monger with 5 years experience over a 55 yo monger with 15 years. Let's get real, AMD no offense to you older guys, the 35 year old is old enough to not be naive but is young enough to have a more authentic connection with a 25 year old girl, someone who is his peer.[/QUOTE]I am not 55, but I get your point. Maybe there's something in it, but there's no need for an "authentic connection" to get valid information from or about a girl. Sure the girls tell you what you want to hear, so if you are a 25 year old Italian they will tell you "amore, ti amo" and that they hate German clients, especially the older ones. And if you are a 60 year old German regular, they will start complaining about the young non Germans fucking them too hard and that they want everything for 50 EUR (or less). That's the business. Still you can look behind the curtains. Especially when you have been around a while.
HB.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1916748]They all tell you what they feel YOU want to hear. It's their job.[/QUOTE]Wise comment. They play the game. With me, they play GF because I treat them like a GF. Some are clever to adapt to us, some are only pretty robots.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1916642]
But he has different taste concerning girls, good sex and good clubs than me.[/QUOTE]Completely agree.
HB.
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What is 81 er? I discover this bad business.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916807]I am not 55, but I get your point. Maybe there's something in it, but there's no need for an "authentic connection" to get valid information from or about a girl. Sure the girls tell you what you want to hear, so if you are a 25 year old Italian they will tell you "amore, ti amo" and that they hate German clients, especially the older ones. And if you are a 60 year old German regular, they will start complaining about the young non Germans fucking them too hard and that they want everything for 50 EUR (or less). That's the business. Still you can look behind the curtains. Especially when you have been around a while.
HB.[/QUOTE]+1. Exactly right. Age doesn't indicate whether or not a customer understands and knows about the pay sex world
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916807]I am not 55, but I get your point. Maybe there's something in it, but there's no need for an "authentic connection" to get valid information from or about a girl. Sure the girls tell you what you want to hear, so if you are a 25 year old Italian they will tell you "amore, ti amo" and that they hate German clients, especially the older ones. And if you are a 60 year old German regular, they will start complaining about the young non Germans fucking them too hard and that they want everything for 50 EUR (or less). That's the business. Still you can look behind the curtains. Especially when you have been around a while.
HB.[/QUOTE]I'll chime in, as a punter under 35 that approaches the 100 visits a year you mentioned (only for about 6 years though), and I really don't understand you HB.
How do you keep your patience discussing all this BS with "the tourists". Honestly, I am getting so exasperated with the "discussions" on this board. In case anyone is interested, the only reason I'm reading it after a few months away, is that I'm going to be in Hessen again soon.
What the topic at hand is concerned, I have no fucking clue about the real numbers. Depending on your definition of "pimp" I would say that if you include the "boyfriends" in their BMWs, it is closer to the 90% than the 50%. I don't believe there are that many girls that get to Germany all by themselves, "friends" or even "family" can turn about to behave like pimps as well, many boyfriends become an "ex" after a while because they take all their money, and so on.
At the same time there are guys that sound like 100% pimps, but they turn out to really be "life time partners". A few weeks ago I was watching baby pictures (including dad) with a new mom, that guy has spent a few years driving different girls from the same village to different clubs in the area. I wouldn't presume to know the real set up there (especially regarding money), but he is clearly playing family with this specific girl that just came back after 2 years being away (in the house she fucked together, with cars out front that she fucked together and the baby).
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30 minutes Session!
[QUOTE=Takedown;1916671]but a WG who has been working all day needs more than 30. And if you ask why you should care about her?[/QUOTE]Yeah exactly, I know this is unfair and wrong to say but a lot of guys perhaps, including me would say, as long as I have enjoyed, I couldn't care less if the girl enjoyed or not. She is anywhich ways getting paid for her time. So even if that happens in a 30 minutes session. So be it. Whats wrong in it??