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[QUOTE=Dreams]Although I fully agree with everything you say, there are always exceptions to a rule: I believe that Luisa, who has some kind of a mixed Asian look , is really what she says she is, that is half Moroccon, half Spanish. She speaks both Arabic and Spanish, and has always been consistant in what she says to many punters.. Anyway, it does not matter much as you say, what matters is that she is one of my fav at oase, always delivering good and friendly service.[/QUOTE]
Correct, there are exceptions, and Luisa --christ, she's been in this game so long now, right?-- is certainly of Moroccan, or at least half-Morrocan origin. To my mind, she belongs to the large class of girls, found uniformly throughout FKKdom, who may be from foreign parentage, but have lived in Germany so long they might as well be Deutsche at least as far as mentality and cultural affiliation. With respect to this group, I agree it hardly matters what country of origin thier parents claim, they are to me German girls, despite what their ethnic appearance might claim. Note that girls from Romania who have within the past few years come to Germany to work at FKK clubs are distinct from girls like Luisa, or Steffi (Russia, but German through and through) and on and on...
Ortos
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Now it is blatently obvious to any trained eye that a girl like Lucia is a Romanian processor. Her persistence in ramming the Italy connection, is a message onto itself. How many genuine Italian girls are actually working in FKKs these days, btw? I doubt there are many, if any!
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Hey Man,
Interesting thing about Lucia:
A few months ago I did back to back Oase visits on a Friday and Saturday. I was also there with two different groups of fellows each day.
I did a Lucia session back when she first started. It was so-so, loaded with mood-killing up-sells etc. I am certain that had it not been a Kino session that she would have been a total disaster, and the session was only saved by her need to "advertise."
We've never sessioned after that. I've entered Oase with many a fellow traveler and as a direct result of my warnings, none of them ever fall for her sales-spiel.
It may have actually gotten through to Lucia that she made a short-sighted error in my case, for on the Saturday visit, she made a point of saying "Hi" and noticing that I was often there and with many friends. I cordially said that this was indeed so and that it is nice having friends. Then I smiled, gave her a "Ciao" and went over to squeeze on Alina for a bit.
Lucia is not as fresh looking as when she started and that combined with word-of-mouth, and with the poor economy may have made the hit-and-run hustle a bit harder for her. Also seeing Top-Acts like Judith and Verona still make the grade with their regular fan-base must gnaw at her a little.
Too bad for her, really. I like her looks and had she been better on that first session, I'd have gladly been one of her regulars, in addition to singing her praises to fellow running-mates. Alas, 'twas not to be.
As to the land-of-origin issue; I tend to take that on a case by case basis. For whatever reason, "Danish" Eva's lack of veracity on the subject never bothered me. "Croatian" Vernoa's origin has been in question before. Again, no real problem for me either way. One girl who I have known for a while recently gave me a really charming and sexy, "It really doesn't matter, now, does it?" response to a question from me about her origin. They way she said it was so appealing that I took her to the room right afterward. She was right, it didn't matter.
A lot of Romanians are shifty about their origins, probably for many reasons. Often it comes back to the negative stigma that many Romanians have. Perhaps it is a coincidence, but apart from Katharina/Paula (Hungarian/Romanian-World) and Alicia (Spanish/Romanian-World) I can't recall a good session that came from a Romanian who was dishonest about her homeland.
However, if Ambra is the gem that Beffen and Don Vito say, then I am more than willing to give her a try.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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[QUOTE=Dedalus]A lot of Romanians are shifty about their origins, probably for many reasons. Often it comes back to the negative stigma that many Romanians have. Perhaps it is a coincidence, but apart from Katharina/Paula (Hungarian/Romanian-World) and Alicia (Spanish/Romanian-World) I can't recall a good session that came from a Romanian who was dishonest about her homeland.
However, if Ambra is the gem that Beffen and Don Vito say, then I am more than willing to give her a try.
Cheers,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
Basically, when it comes to Romanians, I defer to Beffen: He's had so many of them, stuck his tounge into so many Romanians, he knows their taste so well. And he has this great rapport with them, esp. the Gypsy types that he gets on with so much...LOL!
Ortos
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lol. I don't wanna divulging too much on an open forum, but as someone whose ethnicity does not match his place of birth, I have girls tell me I lie when I tell them where I'm "from."
On 1 hand, I can support Vito's standpoint that it doesn't matter, but not for the reasons he gives. An FKK is really an alternate universe. Most of these girls lie to their families back home what they are doing in Germany, how they're making their money, yada yada yada. Their whole visit is a lie. Guys lie right back to the girls as to their personal info. So in that scheme of things what's such a big deal as to where you're from?
OTOH, Ortos is also right but for me not necessarily that a bullshit equates to bad GFE. It's as simple as the fact bullshit stinks and you crinkle your nose when you first smell it.
BTW, it's not just the Romanians either. I've had hookers tell me lies all over the world! lol. The languages that they purportedly speak are the easiest to out them on and it's hillarious when they start backpedaling.
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[QUOTE=Ortos]Some say: It doesn't matter where a girl is from. Fair enough, if you are thinking on the first dimension, but as you grow into this FKK thing, with more and more experience (and more and more investment too!), you will begin to figure out that there are many layers to the selection process. Information is power, and you can see the various nuances that exist within the club amongst the several cliques of girls. There is alot of information that goes on and helps (me at least) dicipher the language as to who is the best session for me at given moment.
Now it is blatently obvious to any trained eye that a girl like Lucia is a Romanian processor. Her persistence in ramming the Italy connection, is a message onto itself. How many genuine Italian girls are actually working in FKKs these days, btw? I doubt there are many, if any!
When somebody is on his first few visits, or is honing in on bodies and pure looks, ein OptikJaeger, it is fair enough that he would be so blown away by the whole new environment and freedom of choice prospects that you would not notice alot of things. But given time, and experience, one starts to notice alot of other behavioural tips about some girls.
It's a poker table: when you are not in action you lay back and observe the other players. You start to see things...I am not trying to lecture anybody, just trying to share my own processes in developing a GFE radar that works for me.
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I agree. I was not defending Lucia or any other person who lies about their nationality. Someone new to the scene will report that Lucia is Italian because that is what she said. It might sound silly to the experienced monger, but a newbie doesn't know any better.
After Beffen recommended Ambra, I just walked right up to her & took her to the room. The half Italian/Hungarian was from what I thought she told me last year. Like you said, information is power.
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[QUOTE=Fkk Lover]lol. I don't wanna divulging too much on an open forum, but as someone whose ethnicity does not match his place of birth, I have girls tell me I lie when I tell them where I'm "from."
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Hey Dude,
Yeah, the lasses at the clubs just aren't buying your "I'm from Pluto." line at all. You really need to work on you lying skills, buddy.
Cheers,
Dedalus, from parts unknown
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[QUOTE=Dedalus]Hey Dude,
Yeah, the lasses at the clubs just aren't buying your "I'm from Pluto." line at all. You really need to work on you lying skills, buddy.
Cheers,
Dedalus, from parts unknown[/QUOTE]
Pluto?? He told me he was from Uranus. WTF????
beffen- not from around here
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[QUOTE=Dedalus] However, if Ambra is the gem that Beffen and Don Vito say, then I am more than willing to give her a try.
Cheers,
Dedalus[/QUOTE]
It seems that Ambra made a hat trick since in addition to Beffen1 and Vito Corleone she took myself. I too heard of Ambra's passionate sessions as praised by our own West by Sun and also by another continental friend who I will not name who has urged me privately to take Ambra as she really is a good session. I also took Hanna finally to the kino and the zimmer as she has been on the shortlist for some time but that is another story as this thread is about Ambra. I am also sorry for not taking many a friend's advice and booking Hanna for a room.
Ambra took me for a 40 minute fantastic kino and room session where we did all the usual acronyms like DFK, DATY, BBBJ, MPOS and finishing with a nice COB. €50. I understand Beffen1 did better than me as did Vito Corleone.
She is beautiful looking, petite sized, energetic in her session and really gets into the sex positioning herself in various ways to achieve the maximum visuals for your pleasure. Her BBBJ is no hands and all twisting head going up and down your schwanz. She also really gets into the sex.
Yes she is Italian and Hungarian background but may be Romanian truly.
BTW, during one of our visit days to Oase there were 3 daughters of Oase for each hungry bear. All that was left of a crew that at its height numbered 13 persons was 3 that day. The other 2 left at 20:00 leaving me all alone in the night at Oase. Straight after that with no companions to hide with it became a case of hunt the Basketcase for a session. I was chased across the breadth and lenght of Oase. Phew!!
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Response to Toscana
[QUOTE=Toscana] Basketcase (sorry, I can't be bothered to switch threads),
to bring it back to the Mädels, who is that beautiful, long straight-haired, slim blonde with A/B breasts at most (a straight 10 in my book) who hangs around with Timea and co. at the Hungarian couch at Oase? She bewitched me yesterday, but I ended up following a tip from Gitan, a forum colleague more famous on Youppie of course, to try Santina instead. A bit of input would be appreciated. Name would do. If I want more I'll revert to the Oase thread. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Salut Toscana,
The Hungarian couch comprises Aniko, Timea, Lisa and now also Cornelia. Vanessa does not hang out with her fellow Hungarians hunting for customers on her own. These girls are all dark haired except for Timea who is strawberry blond. The Hungarian couch sometimes is hijacked by the Polish gang and to a lesser extent the Romanian gang when the Hungarians who are day shift girls leave for the evening. We have debated at lenght as to who is the leader of the Oase Hungarian gang. LOL.
I am straining to think who is the beautiful, long straight-haired, slim blonde with A/B breasts at most, a straight 10 in the Toscana book. None of the Hungarians that I know fit this description. Maybe this is Agneszka from Poland as she sometimes sits at the Hungarian couch. I am sure that it is not one of the Romanian gang.
She must be one beautiful daughter of Oase to have caught the Toscana eye.
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Comments to Bukudala
Salut Bukudala,
Comment allez-vous?
[QUOTE=Bukudala] Oase has changed. I remember when there were wooden "huts" outside, now replaced by tents and a Caesar's Palace ambience; no food; smaller playrooms, and no kino. Back in 2000, the environment was more intimate (if one can call any FKK intimate.), the couch action more spontaneous, and the SP's more local. [/QUOTE]
It is interesting having your historical context of where Oase has come from to now over your 9 years in the field. You still can get couch action but most couch action is confined to the kino. National Geographic!!!
The huts I understand had to be removed as the area that Oase is situated is a reserve and these hut structures did not have planning permission whereas tents do not have the same stringent rules on their set up being of a temporary nature.
Was Oase back then as intimate like in the vein of say Bernds is to us today? Would the intimacy that you liked be a reason for why Bernds appeals more now?
[QUOTE=Bukudala] OASE now resembles a pure fuck factory overrun by the EEs, with Romania, Hungary, and Bulgaria leading the pack. In fact, never ran into any Germans. Where did all the local talent go? [/QUOTE]
Bukudala, Oase in my experience always has a German contingent and a very good one too. Only Artemis and Golden Time in my travels compare to Oase in the number of German CDLs working in the club.
You say you were at Oase on a Friday. Would that Friday be 1 May 2009? If so there were working at Oase the following Germans:
*Cat (Germany) blond
*Johanna (Germany) blond but is now sporting a dyed black hair
*Nina (Germany) blond
*Riccarda (Germany) blond
*Sunny (Germany) blond
*Tamara (Germany) blond
*Tanya (Germany) dark hair
[QUOTE=Bukudala] I was there last Friday and there were no surprises, save for one. My two encounters with the Polish contingent were average; sorry their names escape me. [/QUOTE]
Bukudala, below is a list of the potential Polish girls that you may have encountered at Oase last Friday. Do you recall the hair colour, the height and the looks of the two Polish encounters? It seems that they were forgettable.
*Alexandra (Poland) dark hair
*Evelyn (Poland)
*Julie (Poland) tall blond
*Magda (Poland) petite blond
*Olivia (Poland) blond
*Vanessa (Poland) slim, dark hair
*Victoria (Poland) average sized blond
Missing at present from the Polish contingent was:
*Agnes /Chanel (Poland) long brown hair
*Agnieszka (Poland) light brown or auburn hair
*Alicia (Poland) blond
*Anita (Poland) brunette
*Julia (Poland) small petite brunette. Julia has not been seen in a while
*? (Poland) blond, friend of Anita and Olivia who I have not managed to talk to yet.
*Lisa (Poland) blond sighted working at Artemis in Berlin
*Olivia (Poland) petite dark hair – whereabouts unknown, maybe working in Switzerland
[QUOTE=Bukudala] My session with Michelle from Switzerland was nothing short of spectacular. Oh yes, she's also quite attractive (she thanked her mom for her boobs and her dad for her hair). [/QUOTE]
Differences of opinion:
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[QUOTE=Bukudala] Sorry fellow mongers, I did tip her and was rewarded appropriately with a huge kiss. [/QUOTE]
I guess that you are not German? Please do not let Marlow and the others know that you have been tipping. There seems to be some enmity for Timmy Tourist flashing the cash and spoiling it for the locals. See the following:
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[QUOTE=Bukudala] After my experience at Bernd's earlier in the week, I'll confess that the eye candy and variety is certainly better here at OASE, but you can't beat the service, attitude, and sexuality that overwhelms at Bernd's. I'll post my report on Bernd's shortly. [/QUOTE]
Thank you for the advice about Bernds. Assessing what is considered attractive comparatively is helpful in determining future visits.
We look forward to your report on Bernds.
Au revoir,
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[QUOTE=Ortos]Basically, when it comes to Romanians, I defer to Beffen: He's had so many of them, stuck his tounge into so many Romanians, he knows their taste so well. And he has this great rapport with them, esp. the Gypsy types that he gets on with so much...LOL!
Ortos[/QUOTE]
You are not doing Beffen1 justice. He is also the expert on Bulgarian and Polish girls too. Like Robert Parker, he can tell the terroir by tasting.
Akibono-who finds himself at the wrong side of the universe at this time.
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[QUOTE=Dedalus]
I can't recall a good session that came from a Romanian who was dishonest about her homeland.
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I recall a lot of good sessions, for example, with Palace Denisa who claimed to be a Catalonian. Her friend Ruby too.
On the other hand, based on my data, I think you should not expect that Ambra always gives you a good session, who is a really capricious person. She is always changing what she does in a session on a sudden whim. Sometimes so passionnate cow girl, sometimes dead fish without DFK. Sometimes piano piano, sometimes not.... Ma questo è parte del suo fascino!!! Anyway it is true that Ambra is not the same as her sister.
Now I don't call these Romanians deshonest as they are just playing a role on a stage, like Milla Jovovich, who is an American, originally half Serbian half Russian, played the part of Sainte Vierge Jeanne d'Arc. They are also playing the role of our girl friend only for a 50 euros note.
WBS
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Hungarian
[QUOTE=Basketcase]Salut Toscana,
The Hungarian couch comprises Aniko, Timea, Lisa and now also Cornelia. Vanessa does not hang out with her fellow Hungarians hunting for customers on her own. These girls are all dark haired except for Timea who is strawberry blond. The Hungarian couch sometimes is hijacked by the Polish gang and to a lesser extent the Romanian gang when the Hungarians who are day shift girls leave for the evening. We have debated at lenght as to who is the leader of the Oase Hungarian gang. LOL.
I am straining to think who is the beautiful, long straight-haired, slim blonde with A/B breasts at most, a straight 10 in the Toscana book. None of the Hungarians that I know fit this description. Maybe this is Agneszka from Poland as she sometimes sits at the Hungarian couch. I am sure that it is not one of the Romanian gang.
She must be one beautiful daughter of Oase to have caught the Toscana eye.[/QUOTE]The Hungarian tall blonde is maybe Birgitta, 18 years old, hanging around with the other Timea (the little brunette one, and the Hungarian gang). She arrived in October 2008 at Oase. But she is not really slim. So. 2 new Hungarian brunettes arrived at Oase 3 weeks ago. Always staying together, they don't hang around with the Hungarian team.
Cularo
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[QUOTE=Basketcase]I am straining to think who is the beautiful, long straight-haired, slim blonde with A/B breasts at most, a straight 10 in the Toscana book. None of the Hungarians that I know fit this description. Maybe this is Agneszka from Poland as she sometimes sits at the Hungarian couch. I am sure that it is not one of the Romanian gang.
She must be one beautiful daughter of Oase to have caught the Toscana eye.[/QUOTE]Toscana's head gets all too easily turned, so I wouldn't go that far. But I was taken by this one, and frustrated that the logistics of the evening meant I didn't get to meet her. Guess I'll just have to get over again soon and hope she was not not an Oasis mirage.
Thanks for straining. I think I met Agneszka, also very nice, but not the one I'm thinking of.
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[QUOTE=Basketcase]BTW, during one of our visit days to Oase there were 3 daughters of Oase for each hungry bear. All that was left of a crew that at its height numbered 13 persons was 3 that day. The other 2 left at 20:00 leaving me all alone in the night at Oase. Straight after that with no companions to hide with it became a case of hunt the Basketcase for a session. I was chased across the breadth and lenght of Oase. Phew!![/QUOTE]Man, it's such a trial, huh? Only solution is to advertise that you only have EUR 200 left to spend, but will spend it on one girl only. Auditions lasting ten minutes each can be sought immediately in the Kino. You will then decide. The resulting attention might just relieve your suffering a bit. LOL.