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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1506442]Officially you have to pay the club if you want to take a currently working girl outside. I think it was something like 130€. Never paid it. But I never took a girl directly from the club to a hotel.
HB[/QUOTE]Do the girls receive any salary from the club? Any other benefits?
Otherwise it seems quite clear that the club violates the labour laws. It reminds me a little about a case in Washington (stripper vs stripclub) not so long ago.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/12/AR2010031202154.html[/url]
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Take her on her off day
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1506465]You can avoid paying the club the €150 if you choose a day shift girl who is already free to leave at 10 pm and make sure that you leave separately with about 5 minutes gap and meet up say at the taxi stand near the main road. In my case, my regular has her own taxi contact whom she calls to pick us up from there.[/QUOTE]Take her on her off day usually girls go off either on Sunday, Monday or Tuesday. For 1000 euro they come by themselves to my hotel. For regular girls that give me 800 euro I meet up with them or pay for their cab and bring them for dinner or drinks at least.
Please do know that girls will be calling their pimps to tell them where they are so I avoid bringing them to my place of stay.
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I used to think that all the girls working in FKK Clubs are freelancers.
(The FKK Club websites always describe the working girls as "self entrepreneur" and has nothing to do with the club itself.)
I am now surprised to hear that some part of the girls actually have their pimps and need to make some deals the club.
At least they go to the club and work there with their own free will, right?
Please tell me that they are not exploited and not forced to work there, or I will feel bad.
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[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1506493]Please do know that girls will be calling their pimps to tell them where they are so I avoid bringing them to my place of stay.[/QUOTE]Girls don't actually need to call their pimps. The pimps can track where their girls are through their iPhones.
I don't understand this fascination of take out with the girls. For 1000 euro I could have 10 girls for 1 hour each. Maybe it's just me but that sounds so much better than 1 girl for 8-10 hours. I'm not even including the money for shopping, dinner, etc.
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Tracked by their pimps? Calling their pimps? Never had that problem. Just chose a girl without a pimp. One who likes you, one who trust you and voce versa. Take her out. If you click with her you don't have to pay her, they will be happy to spend some quality time in a restaurant, hotel, cinema, their apartment, your apartment. If you are a nice guy. If you are not. Pay her. For non regulars it's probably better value for money to stay at the club and pay room time only.
HB
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1506650]Tracked by their pimps? Calling their pimps? Never had that problem. Just chose a girl without a pimp. One who likes you, one who trust you and voce versa. Take her out. If you click with her you don't have to pay her, they will be happy to spend some quality time in a restaurant, hotel, cinema, their apartment, your apartment. If you are a nice guy. If you are not. Pay her. For non regulars it's probably better value for money to stay at the club and pay room time only.
HB[/QUOTE]HB I agree with you and I made several times very good experience. Please, mention. Must all the girls have pimps?
After many years training you get an eye for that, if they have pimps or not. Most of the younger babes with tattoos from eastern Germany be careful with. But there are enough other left. And saying again. Taking out a girl is not the same like being in the club. Job is job and being private is different.
Someone around on Saturday for Oase Christmas party? Thursday Panthera this week.
Cheers,
RN
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[quote=Banana Boi; 1506589]For 1000 euro I could have 10 girls for 1 hour each.[/quote]Moneywise, you're right. But I want to "possess" a girl for 8 hours for 1,000E. Mentality sometimes wins money.
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1506650]Tracked by their pimps? Calling their pimps? Never had that problem. Just chose a girl without a pimp. One who likes you, one who trust you and voce versa. Take her out. If you click with her you don't have to pay her, they will be happy to spend some quality time in a restaurant, hotel, cinema, their apartment, your apartment. If you are a nice guy. If you are not. Pay her. For non regulars it's probably better value for money to stay at the club and pay room time only.
HB[/QUOTE]I think what CC means is the situation where a girl informs someone where she is and when she is expected to return. Normal procedure for an outcall service just in case anything happens to her. Yes it could be her pimp or could just be a friend looking out for her safety.
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[QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1506589]Girls don't actually need to call their pimps. The pimps can track where their girls are through their iPhones.
I don't understand this fascination of take out with the girls. For 1000 euro I could have 10 girls for 1 hour each. Maybe it's just me but that sounds so much better than 1 girl for 8-10 hours. I'm not even including the money for shopping, dinner, etc.[/QUOTE]No I don't take them for shoppping. For 800 euro I go totally for anal, toys, cim and facial. Of course I make sure to get my moneys worth. Both of us are helping each other as the girl gets 800 euro (in the club she may get 300 to 500 euro a day). I always tell the girls what to expect and usually it involves certains fetish. For me its worth if I am horny for something different things to do.
She told me she had to call someone to check in and check out for safety reasons.
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Day of the week
I would also add that all the prices here assume non-messe time periods. Also, the discount rates would only apply on the slower days Monday / Tuesdays for example. I wouldn't expect to pay discount rates for take-out on a busy Friday or Saturday night. Just something to consider.
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At RN: You're referring to Eastern Europe and not Eastern Germany? Yes, the younger the girls the more likely they do have a pimp.
At A: Sure it is common to tell somebody where you go with a client for safety reasons."My girls" never needed to. Some dates were years ago when tracking a mobile phone wasn't sp easy. And just now the girl I've been out with does have a phone, no smartphone, so no tracking. LOL. But she returned safely and in one piece.
HB
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1506812]At RN: You're referring to Eastern Europe and not Eastern Germany? Yes, the younger the girls the more likely they do have a pimp.
At A: Sure it is common to tell somebody where you go with a client for safety reasons."My girls" never needed to. Some dates were years ago when tracking a mobile phone wasn't sp easy. And just now the girl I've been out with does have a phone, no smartphone, so no tracking. LOL. But she returned safely and in one piece.
HB[/QUOTE]Spot on Hb. I think only the old girls have gotten away from the pimps or bought their way out. Some of this pimps even patron the clubs such as the fat Turkish guy that have a mohawk she is Alexia pimp and the other is the Arab / middle eastern man with the bad skin who owns Loreta and friends.
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[QUOTE=CaptCabins;1506836]Spot on Hb. I think only the old girls have gotten away from the pimps or bought their way out. Some of this pimps even patron the clubs such as the fat Turkish guy that have a mohawk she is Alexia pimp and the other is the Arab / middle eastern man with the bad skin who owns Loreta and friends.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by pimping? I don't see any reason why any of the girls in fkk:s should have or need a pimp. As far I'm concerned pimps are disgusting and should be locked away for a long, long time. But maybe its just the fact that I don't know how pimping actually works in reality.
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What makes it worthwhile for me is being able to have a bottle of Champagne at supermarket prices in a thick comfortable double bed with clean sheets the whole night long, and having sex until we crash out at 5 am without having to worry about having to make the journey back to hotel. And to restart for a last round when we wake up at 9am.
The beauty of this arrangement is that it then ends there without having say a girlfriend who expects continuous attention henceforth or a wife to live with forever.
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Is the Russian blonde girl from Vladivostock named Natalia or Natasha still around?
I met her 2 months ago and she stood out as a very smart and intelligent girl. Much more interresting than any of the other girls I've met at Oase.