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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1980934]Read the forum. It's been discussed in detail. Let's wait and see. From my pov nobody can control what's happening inside a locked room.
Hb.[/QUOTE]Thanks and I agree with you, this law for me is more targeting gang bang party without condom, or Aldi FKK in which sex without condoms is more or less a standard. I don t believe that in the FKK like Oase, Shark, World etc. The new law will change the things.
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;1979456]A big factor in why many of these girls are on the game is their general flakiness. Hooking and porn are the default gig for girls who can't hack a regular job, especially if they like to indulge in a few substances during working hours.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with your assessment. Some of these girls cannot hold down a normal job because of the way they live so flexibly. They need the program for work that is not routine and allows for their random lapseI think some of these fully intens to come to work but then something comes up which can be quite whimsical and the girl does not appear for work at all. Telling the customer of their non attendance just does not featire as important to do.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1980952]Landers? It's a national law valid in all (federal) states in Germany.
HB.[/QUOTE]Same than allowance to drive or not. At the moment, I can again, between LR and Aca, to Liestal. I will try to resist to wait Kate to be off, to go to Isabella. Before I waited Isabella to be off, to go to meet only Kate because she didn't like I go with Isabella, but even I don t judge, even it will be painful to resist, lies and public sex kill illusion.
So we will have to go out of Germany, YY NL for 50/30 mn and entry 50 before 2 pm, Austria and white Swiss chocolate, to enjoy so good, deep, long time BBBJ. CBJ have really no interest for me, I don t need to pay for time for sucking a condom.
I m just happy this law should protect poor girls health about risky AO sex and not anymore sleeping in rooms where they are fucked, like at Aca, LR, GT, Sharks sometimes.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1980770]But the situations I described happened. Exactly as I wrote here. I don't think they lied. Lie is a dirty word, a strong word, LOL. The better explanation is that they probably intended to meet me, but circumstances changed for them. I am not bitter or even angry / unhappy. Was disappointed for a couple of hours and moved on, there are many other girls. Anyway, my point was to point out that girls' lists which we print here, and guys asking endlessly "is xyz girl going to be in the club on a specific day" can be at best answered in a probabilistic manner, because girls change minds too often, and even when they themselves intend to attend on a certain day and promise clients they will be present, something can change at the last minute.[/QUOTE]I don't mean you didn't experience, I'm just surprised because girls seem to look for appointments for their business. My regulars usually ask me: When do we meet again? When I meet them on Friday or Saturday, asking: Do You come tomorrow? They seem to think Paris is close to FRA or DUSS or Switzerland now. But I agree FKK are land of lies, jealousy and bullshit. Even most of my regulars know my profile, I prefer to give them so they can read what I really write, rather than being bullshit, and I have nothing to hide to them about my writings. When they read or I show them on my phone, no more problem. I only say to them I have to return home when I plan to go to meet another girl on next day, but they can select my posts. One did on May 2015 .
I wish you to meet again Aurelia. She is off right now, but look at Globe tagesplan. About Aylice. Bu, Anabel and her disappeared since Summer.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1980962]I totally agree with your assessment. Some of these girls cannot hold down a normal job because of the way they live so flexibly. They need the program for work that is not routine and allows for their random lapseI think some of these fully intens to come to work but then something comes up which can be quite whimsical and the girl does not appear for work at all. Telling the customer of their non attendance just does not featire as important to do.[/QUOTE]I recognise your style of humour well. A touch of Pathos and Satire.
Thinking of cock in the ass for a long time, the girl probably thought she might just take a "sicky" (sick day), and pretend she does not do this job for a day, or she just got a better offer. It is a wonderful job to work when you feel like it. LOL
Anyway, why pick the flakiest girls, if you want reliability? Keep a lot of backup girls.
In another country, girl fails to call, to arrange the meeting time and place for the gig. Next day she sends message, sorry she had to go to a friend's birthday party. P4 P gigs are not as important as having fun, right? She obviously did not need the money too urgently. The only difference was that I never expected too much that girl would keep the appointment. Just get used to them being unreliable.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1980960]Thanks and I agree with you, this law for me is more targeting gang bang party without condom, or Aldi FKK in which sex without condoms is more or less a standard. I don t believe that in the FKK like Oase, Shark, World etc. The new law will change the things.[/QUOTE]If that's true then the new law could just ban AO. Some girls will prolly say no altogether or add some criteria in order to provide BBBJ. In the end it depends on the competition and just make the game more complicated.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1980964]Same than allowance to drive or not. At the moment, I can again, between LR and Aca, to Liestal. I will try to resist to wait Kate to be off, to go to Isabella. Before I waited Isabella to be off, to go to meet only Kate because she didn't like I go with Isabella, but even I don t judge, even it will be painful to resist, lies and public sex kill illusion.
So we will have to go out of Germany, YY NL for 50/30 mn and entry 50 before 2 pm, Austria and white Swiss chocolate, to enjoy so good, deep, long time BBBJ. CBJ have really no interest for me, I don t need to pay for time for sucking a condom.
I m just happy this law should protect poor girls health about risky AO sex and not anymore sleeping in rooms where they are fucked, like at Aca, LR, GT, Sharks sometimes.[/QUOTE]She wants you to give all yr money to her? LOL.
Wonder if they will increase the price as I suspect more people will flock to those places.
Seems like that Merkel won't get reelected bc of all the attacks by the refugees, but I suppose it won't affect the new law.
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Switz is already expensive as hell. Babylons is Aus is rediculous. I don't like the entry pricing in other clubs. 90-85, they add up.
Aus, there are already girls doing covered if running into bad luck. 25% covered experience for me. Too bad because De is the best punting destin. When it comes to pricing and standards. So many options that caters to different folks, and this Federal level ban is off-putting.
Forgot, there is Spain as well. You can find BBBJ there as well. 50% covered experience. Clubbing hrs are generally limited and pricing is least standardised. Aus is the next best options along side NL.
YY, the reception tells you 50 rate per half, but extras you take up with the girls. Not sure about what SS tells you, but 50 has been the going rate.
Perhaps, clubs may move their business across boarders if there is a big hit as a result of whatever outcome.
RLD and Laufhauses will have increased interest from me. I've seen some pretties at Pascha.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1981062]She wants you to give all yr money to her? LOL.
Wonder if they will increase the price as I suspect more people will flock to those places.
Seems like that Merkel won't get reelected bc of all the attacks by the refugees, but I suppose it won't affect the new law.[/QUOTE]I don't think YY will increase rates, because first clients are NL and Turkish and they don't like to pay expensive.
To PL, no problem for me for BBBJ with all my girls at Andiamo and Wellcum. At, even I was their first french, except for Natalia. Hu ex Paradise Sarrebrucken who had already french clients, but she was great.
Yes Switzerland is more expensive, but high GFE level with really pretty girls worth the rate for me. 50 is expensive for GND for me. Westside close to the German border is 63 CHF or €/30 mn.
About Kate, when I met her for first time at Globe on beginning of July, she asked me if I didn't want to stay for a second round, like for our first 2 hours room at Sharks. I explained her at Sharks it was 200 , but much more expensive at Globe. She said Ok, she never tried to upsell nor asked for tip. She said to be jealous about Isabella on October. When I said to her we are in contact with Isabella when she is off, she answered: You really want to make me jealous? Unfortunately, I get used to jealousy from my brothels GF, even I don't need to meet outside girls who are fucked by other guys. Usually, my regular girls just take money I give them, I think they understand better to get me weekly.
Even I would have been happy for her, she really retire, I will miss her.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1980960]Thanks and I agree with you, this law for me is more targeting gang bang party without condom, or Aldi FKK in which sex without condoms is more or less a standard. I don t believe that in the FKK like Oase, Shark, World etc. The new law will change the things.[/QUOTE]Maybe girls will not break a law for free.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;1981127]Maybe girls will not break a law for free.[/QUOTE]They will not get charged with anything. Just the men.
HB.
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It's been five years since I was at Oase. I am coming to Frankfurt for a weekend later this month and was wondering if Oase is a good choice if I'm looking for younger, more natural women. Not so much into the phat asses and boob jobs.
Is the outdoor pool open in the winter?
Also, do they have any *real* massage services?
I'm going to check out Sharks for the first time but want to go up to Bad Homburg for a visit to Taunus Terme so thought Oase would be fun for old time's sake! LOL.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1981125]I don't think YY will increase rates, because first clients are NL and Turkish and they don't like to pay expensive.
To PL, no problem for me for BBBJ with all my girls at Andiamo and Wellcum. At, even I was their first french, except for Natalia. Hu ex Paradise Sarrebrucken who had already french clients, but she was great.
.[/QUOTE]Well, covered I've run into at GT Vien. If you do visit, you may like Katelea if she is present. Highly recommended. She was one of the covered girls, but on repeat (was def worth going again as I was highly attracted to her and she provided good services), hat was off. She made the trip worthwhile.
YY rate hasn't changed due to nearby competition. YY and GT are 30 min apart being nearby competitions. So, they should have had comparable rates with Germany nearby keeps price in check.
When the BBBJ ban does get inforced with GT, it's possible girls at YY may try to upsell for that service given that in De that service is not available.
The clientel at YY are not the fly-in types, Dutch drive-ins. Avg age is younger, with good proportionate of Turks. So, you are probably right, avg clientel are probably not high spenders. I don't think nearby cross the boarder types are high spenders, at least not comparable to fly-ins. The clubs like GT or YY are drivable distance, and session rates in De are not all that significant. This is why upselling is not common there.
There has been girls from Hessen (Palace, Oase), and really they were the only ones that proposes 1 HR for better service. A complaint I run into from those types are the guys want only 30 min rooms. And those are the ones that really compaint about the clientel really. So, different clientel types.
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[QUOTE=RubMeister100;1981201]It's been five years since I was at Oase. I am coming to Frankfurt for a weekend later this month and was wondering if Oase is a good choice if I'm looking for younger, more natural women. Not so much into the phat asses and boob jobs.
Is the outdoor pool open in the winter?
Also, do they have any *real* massage services?
I'm going to check out Sharks for the first time but want to go up to Bad Homburg for a visit to Taunus Terme so thought Oase would be fun for old time's sake! LOL.[/QUOTE]You will find young natural girls without silicon. Outdoor pool is open but not heated. They do have massage, in former room 14 next to the upstairs showers now.
HB.
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Greetings gentlemen, I am planning my first visit to Frankfurt (and FKK Clubs) in late May, and after seeing the experiences you all have shared, I narrowed my selection down to 3 clubs, with Oase being the prime choice along with World and Sharks. Would greatly appreciate some advice on transportation to these areas as I cannot find them on google maps. Also since I will live in hostels which may be some distance away from the clubs, I am concerned about the security situation for walking at night. I am by no means a big spender like most here so cabs may be a little costly, would rather walk a few more steps and have $ to fuck more.
The plan is to spend 4 days 3 Nights at Frankfurt, advice on the best days to visit where there is a nice line up without overcrowding of men will be helpful. Some negotiation tips from you guys on how to spot and avoid being ripped off or 'sharked' will be great too.
For those who have visited all 3, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate the average quality of the girls?
Cheers,
TRH.