OMG, it is as it is: Some guys get 2 hours including anal and CIM for 100 EUR, others pay the regular price of 350 EUR. That's life. And no one will ever change it. Just accept it.
HB
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OMG, it is as it is: Some guys get 2 hours including anal and CIM for 100 EUR, others pay the regular price of 350 EUR. That's life. And no one will ever change it. Just accept it.
HB
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]OMG, it is as it is: Some guys get 2 hours including anal and CIM for 100 EUR, others pay the regular price of 350 EUR. That's life. And no one will ever change it. Just accept it.[/QUOTE]
I know that I get charged 350 for if I opt for a 2 hour session (200) with anal (100) and CIM finish (50). Sometimes the girl may throw in COB finish free. I have never been charged 100 for the same service. Some guys are just plain lucky.
At Golden Time if you find the right girl the same session would be 200 made up by 125 for the 2 hours, anal 50 and CIM finish 25. Much more economic prospect there by saving 150 for that service. Also you save on the entrance fee at Golden Time at 50 versus 65 for Oase. At Golden Time you get more for your 50 too in terms of food and drinks.
[QUOTE=Basketcase]Some guys are just plain lucky.[/QUOTE]
That's what it is all about, depends on the guy, the girl, the circumstances.
And yes, you're right, the NRW clubs do have far better value for money. Unluckily I do live in FFM. ;)
HB
It is how it is-and-there are ways to generally get more bang for your buck.
But bitching & complaining about price just isn't one of them.
One of the most important lessons I ever learned in life is to spend less time comparing what I am getting to what the other guy is getting and more time just relaxing with what I have. When I do this-relax about it-I find that I tend to meet relaxed girls. Without assuming anything I find that the girls are a bit more generous with their time (more important to me than any particular service or extra) and I am more generous with my cash. That is, I extend the session or maybe take an extra. In the end both of us are happy and the next time I see her the session is even better.
And I hope this does not sound like a strategy to get more for less. In fact I see it as just a way to be in the world, about everything, that just seems to work better than being tight and stingy.
[QUOTE=Dreams]...as far as i know, regarding extra cost for COB. Yes, it is officially extra at Palace. Waiting for some more opinions and then will tell the end of the story.[/QUOTE]
This being Palace, here is what my guess you paid: 150 (= 30 min standard + 50 for CIM + 50 for COB). Once you agree to CIM at Palace, many girls there insist that you agreed to that level of service, irrespective of the final outcome. And since you did the COB, she tagged on another 50, because that's what's standard at Palace. You argued that you only came once, not twice, and that it's either in her pie hole or on her rack and should only cost 50 once. She insisted. You took your case to the front desk; they sided with her, and you grudgingly paid 150.
All of the discussion between the senior members, if the total should be 50-75-100, now convinced you even more that you got ripped off. Did I get it about right?
[QUOTE=Euro100]This being Palace, here is what my guess you paid....[/QUOTE]Actually, it is Oase
[QUOTE=Basketcase]
Taking your point to the next level having an invoice as a record of your visit to the club to nice record of what you did, or if you are wanting to claim the tax deduction or claim the entrance fee back on expenses?
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Actually, my aim was to receive a proper invoice and later, claim the entrance fee back on expenses. I have done it several time in clubs in Spain and have done once in Frankfurt, in a small club.
IMHO, I believe this is the same type of expenditure when you eat at a restaurant or have a drink to relax in a bar after your dinner.
The invoice I have received in Frankfurt was a proper invoice of the establishment. The explanation on the invoice was "food and drink". The only thing suspectful on invoice was the stamp. It says "FKK Club ..." then the adress. Only, if an accountant who speak German will get what it is, if he audits my accounts.
[QUOTE=Basketcase]
Please let is know howit goes at Oase. Sometimes I like to have a souvenir of the visit and the only ones I get have been the Oase business card which is really cool with its transforming picture of naked behinds of the girls when titled one way and the Oase logo if titled the other way. Other other thing I got was a nice Oase monogrammed ball point ink pen at their birthday party in 2008. Problem was as I lost it when back in London at the airport when I was running to catch my bus home and I dropped it on the pavement. I guess someone now has an Oase logo pen since it was a very nice pen.[/QUOTE]
I have also some reduction cards of Golden Time, World and Pirates Park. The one of Golden Time is with figures of nice ladies. World's voucher has nothing to connect with a club, just a red paper, no one can guess what it is. I had receive a 10 Euro reduction voucher at Pirates. There is not a picture but the web site of the club. If my internal affairs see my voucher and go online with this, I may be undercover. For the same reason, I send to the garbage some voucher of Mettmann Club.
At the 10th anniversary of Oase, I get two shirts (the size was XXL-I guess they have been made for the Security of Oase) and one t-shirt (There was a badge on the back with figures of those sweet ladies). As I can wear them, I gave them a dude. But his wife having German knowledge judge him frequenting to the clubs :))
Then, the shirts vanished. He suspects his wife send them to the garbage...
[QUOTE=Henio]Actually, it is Oase[/QUOTE]
I stand corrected, but my guess is still the same. What happens at Palace, happens at Oase, too. Just not as frequently, at least in my experience.
[QUOTE=Dreams]...as far as i know, regarding extra cost for COB. Yes, it is officially extra at Palace. Waiting for some more opinions and then will tell the end of the story.[/QUOTE]
Dreams,
I am thinking now that you were under the presumption, maybe rightly, given some of the chat here that you were only up for 50 for the standard session even though the girl tried hard and worked hard for 50 extra for CIM finish. IN the end you managed to get a COB finish and thought since you did not complete the CIM finish that you were up for 50.
When it comes to paying, she insists on 50 extra making the session cost 100 since she worked hard on the BBBJTCIM but you did not agree as you actually reached a COB ending. I am not sure if you took it to reception to arbitrate. In any event a sour taste was generated and you paid up 100 to keep good relations. You think and try to rationalise that she did work hard. However, somehow in your mind you felt a bit overcharged or something was not right explaining why you have written on here giving only a few of the details and invite comment from senior members (but not all members in general).
You mention that the girl you went with was someone that you had your eye on for a while and has been reported on many times before on this forum so she would be well known to some of us here. So the good relations in the club angle mayhave played a part in the decision. I think the same, since if you also go with her friends as well and you burn your bridges with her then you are bound to get a little less friendliness after she goes off to moan to her mates that you were a shit to her on the pricing.
I have found that I will just pay what is asked and not quibble on the pricing. The times where I have questioned the price I have found that it is a 50:50 win/lose and a bridge is burned. Also, there is a tendency that the reception will side with the girl. The rationale being that the girl is a paying worker that comes to the club regularly. The punter is also a paying customer that may also come regularly but will not come as regularly as the working girl. The girl represents more money than the punter so there is a bias that the reception will back the girl over the guys. Others may think differently but that is my take.
I rather not burn bridges as I go to some clubs quite regularly and want to be welcomed when I go there so I generally will pay what is asked unless I feel I have been truly ripped off.
[QUOTE=Dreams]I was at Oase the other day, resting in the kino.
I was actually waiting for girls to come propose to me , and choose one. One well know girl came, I won't tell you who for now, and since I had wanted to do her since long , started the session. Absolutely fine in the kino, DFk, BBJ etc.. We decide to continue there. Some positions, but I could not come, (not her fault, too many sessions earlier), so suggest to her a BBJCIM. She happily agrees and start working hard on achieving this. Unfortunatley, after a few minutes, I have to realise that I won't CIM. However, I feel I can try myself COB, so do that and succeed. The whole session did not exceed the 30 min.
Question: do you pay 50 or 100E? In other words, is an agreement to go for CIM biding, whether you actually CIM or not? I will tell you after what I decided to do and how this ended after I get some responses from the specialists...[/QUOTE]Dreams,
there are lots answers, aren't there? Since the girl had obviously worked very hard, and clearly had the right attitude, my choice would have been to pay her EUR 100 voluntarily. That would be one girl who wouldn't forget me, and would probably give me a superb time next time round.
Toscana, long-term investor
[QUOTE=Toscana]Dreams,
there are lots answers, aren't there? Since the girl had obviously worked very hard, and clearly had the right attitude, my choice would have been to pay her EUR 100 voluntarily. That would be one girl who wouldn't forget me, and would probably give me a superb time next time round.
Toscana, long-term investor[/QUOTE]
Hi guys, I am amazed by the interest my question created...and the interesting discussion that followed.
I was also amused by the different scenarii that some of you proposed.. Well, I waited till one of them was actually close to what really happened, and the winner is... Toscana.
I exactly reacted like he said, and happily handed over 100E to her, without her asking anything. She was pleased, and, yes, remained my good friend for the rest of the day (night), and hopefully also for further visits. Oh, BTW, she was...Michelle.
My attitude in mongering has always been, wherever I am, that it must be a win-win. I hate those guys who consider that it is a "war" between "them and us" (saw that kind of discussion on other threads..) I try to put myself in the position of the other party, and thought that she may think that, hell, it's not my fault if this guy can't cum, given all the good work I am putting in it, so why should I suffer? Hence my decision.
Another funny anecdote: we were in the kino, and started the usual DFK, and BBBJ. Then she asks what do we do next, and where. I hesitate a bit, since I like the kino, and then she said, candidly, giggling why don't we stay here, it's good publicity for me! I happily obliged and the whole thing happened in the kino. That's confirm my beliefs that girls who like to do it in the kino are likely to give you good service, since they know they are being watched by potential customers. I do actually use this process to select some of my girls. For instance, I saw Judith working on another guy, and, God, if I had still some life in me, I would have immediately booked her... Next time!
Oase- Friday October 9
I arrived in Frankfurt with 2 Amigos from the USA. It was to be a sunny day, and the target was Oase. We stayed at this Best Western in Frankfurt:
[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g187337-d568406-Reviews-Best_Western_Premier_IB_Hotel_Friedberger_Warte-Frankfurt_Hesse.html[/url]
The Hotel worked out to 32 E per day with breakfast included.
The Euro was real high vs the dollar, but who cares? We proceeded to Oase and arrived around 2PM. I opted for a robe, in which I could put my gum and Blackberry in the pocket. I immediately went outside and sat naked in one of the loungers outside, The weather wasn't that bad (sunny, and mid 60's). I proceeded to work on a bit of a tan. A slow steady stream of girls came outside to try to drum up some business. It was horribly slow, and the only girls that came outside were the desperate ones. I was looking for certain girls, and I was determined to do only new ones this trip. The first one took at least 3 hours for me to pick, as I was waiting for some new blood. As the time passed, I realized that I better get the first one over with. I picked a girl that I had sessioned with before in May.
Timea- Hungary
We went to the back rooms by the girls shower, and started the session. We re acquainted ourselves, and enjoyed a real proper GFE session. After a while, sensing that I was going to shoot in doggy, I asked her if I could shoot on her tits. She commented on the volume, and I told her that I had been waiting a while for her. I walked her over to the lockers for her payment, and a little present. As I didn't see Michelle there, Timea was just what I needed to start the day off proper.
The next girl that I settled on later was another girl that I had done last trip (so much for the plans of new girls).
Hanna- Czech
I took her to the rooms in the back. GREAT session, horizontal exercises, tongues everywhere, again with me coming on her tits to finish, after barely pulling out of her mouth. She knew that I 'm not a CIM guy, so we set up the scenario that way, complete with verbal prodding from her. Fantastic! She commented that the last time that she saw me, I couldn't come with her twice, even telling me which rooms we were in. Amazing how she remembered. She told me that it was her birthday on October 11, so she wouldn't be there Sunday if we returned.
As I must have been glowing, I was in the upstairs shower, and thought I saw an angel in a dream. I rubbed my eyes, and the angel was still there in the shower with me. I said "Shayenne?" She started to laugh. It was Shayenne from Golden Time. How could this be?
Her hair was a little darker now, but the body (tits and ass) were smoking, as I ran my wet hand over her. She giggled. She was wearing a little garter belt thingy with no panties. Luscious.
I dried off, and walked hand in hand with her back to the pole dancing area. I introduced her to my 2 friends, as she had mentioned that it was her second day at Oase. I wanted to make sure that both guys and girls saw that she had friends in the club (and also to continue to ogle her body) I asked her for a session later at 10 PM. One thing I knew in the back of my mind- she doesn't kiss.
As that time started to approach, I spotted Johanna arriving in the club in her work clothes. Now I had a problem. As Shayenne had told me that she would be Sunday at Oase, I caved in and did the 10 Pm with Johanna,
Johanna-Germany
Same big tits, but spiky platinum blonde this time, rather than black hair, as I saw her in May. Good session, but the edge was taken off by waiting forever for a room. I guess that you can say the session was club standard. Plus, I kept thinking of Shayenne.
Since I had a robe, I was able to take notes on the Blackberry.
Girls I saw:
Lucia- Italy (Yeah, right) Thanks LBC for the mobile intelligence that she was a ripoff.
Ella Romania Nice girl.
Mara- Romania- persistent, but fun.
Luisa from Spain- Asian looking stopped me to say, " I see you here before. Maybe you and me later?
Domenica- real cute Polish Blonde.
Julia from Poland- real tall, if only she had bigger tits.
Aida (Romania)- less tummy fat that I saw her last time, Still big tits though
Linda/ Karloina/ Adriana- another one I wish I had more bullets for. Soft, sweet girl. Still great tits. A little lighter blonde now.
Claudia from Brazil- this one I never saw, and was wondering If anyone had done before?
Since we had 2 more days to go, we left around midnight as the " tourist bus " seems to have left off a bunch of guys at the gate.
Next stop- World
Best Regards
Smuler
[QUOTE=Beffen1]All of the clubs usually close Christmas Eve and New Years Eve and open late, like 6PM, on Christmas Day and New Year's day.
January 3 and 4 the clubs will be open for business as usual although you should note that many of the girls who are in the Russian Orthodox Church- Russian and Slavic girls, may have gone home to be with family for Orthodox Easter on January 6.
So the lineups may be a bit depleted but the clubs are open and you should be able to find one or two girls to your liking.
beffen- who has been there and done that[/QUOTE]Buffen,
Thanks for your advise.
Yes that may be true but someone on another thread suggested that there would be less men so that this time of the year can be even better than usual.
Well, who knows. It's just a matter of hit or miss.
One thing I would suppose is, in early January, there would be more decrease in men's headcount than that of women. So the clubs with lots of girls and even more guys are the ones to go, and Golden Time in Dutch boarder area may be the right one.
I loved the kino at Oase long time ago (2003/04) but last time when I went there in March 06 there weren't many girls and made a quick exit to switch to Palace where I also didn't have particularly good experience. (Too many 'sharks' as people would say).
Thanks again for the info anyway.
Cheers,
Jackpot
Anybody knows the names of the Polish trio, Dagmara, and ... and ...
Are they all blondes? Any other descriptions or recommendations on their services?
I will be tonight at Oase. If I see Julia, I will ask her about Dagmara and other new blond Polish girls?