Theory and reality can be different.
[QUOTE=MooseNibbler;2175899]Well yes, that's what I meant when I said I've been out of the loop for a while. Thank you for pointing me specifically to. July 1st; that detail led me to the information I needed. So aside from no more BBBJ, have you guys felt much of an impact from the new law as customers?[/QUOTE]Felt no impact, and I was never concerned from the outset, where some friends seemed quite concerned. I always had a wait and see philosophy, re what would be the real impact? Perhaps very little.
I for one can't remember when I last had a CBJ, or attempted one. It could have been years ago in the Palace. It is true that very nice DFK can give me a hard on, and then get a condom on directly. Yes there have been odd occasions when I skipped BJ altogether but not that frequent.
The change I experience is that girls usually require a decent amount of money to perform at their best. 50 often does not cut it, unless for a 10 minute quickie perhaps. I don't know which girls are still at their best for 50.
Oase: CAUTION, Lots of problems today but still fun
First to be put it briefly, a word of caution: Saturdays may not be the best time to show up at Oase but beyond that I seemed to experience upselling and significant attempts to rip-off from a line-up that consists of a large number of new girls.
If any of you read the report of [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=2148396#post2148396] my first visit[/url] two months ago, you'll know that I did really like this place and still do, but the line-up that I saw had undergone some changes in that time and all around worse pricing and service would make me discourage people from going on a Saturday, which I can only assume is the busiest day of the week. (From word of mouth, I've heard that Sharks also has large upswings in pricing on this day).
Headed to Oase with on Saturday with Triptogamont, arriving at 3 pm and leaving at closing time, 4:30 am.
The customer / girl ratio was way out of whack when we arrived, something along the lines of 10/1. Though of course this is the time when the girls just start arriving, for most of the rest of the evening, I would estimate it did not get anywhere near a good ratio, remaining at a stable 3/1 (to put it clearly 1 girl for every 3 customers).
It was a sunny day so that outside area was open and full of people. I'm willing to say that I saw more middle-aged male Italian ass than the type was looking for, outside. It got to the point that I was afraid that I might have caught Oase on a weekly Gay Night. Most of the girls regardless concentrate their activities inside, in the lounge / Kino and hallways.
And the law of supply and demand and resulting weakness in bargaining power was in effect, with the first several girls I was approached by or approached, offering maybe a minimum of 1 hour for 100 euros, or as was the case several times 100 euros for 30 minutes. Before even negociating for CBJ or kissing of course. Yes, I did find some that would do 50 but then without kissing and of course CBJ.
Please contrast this with my experience last time where there was only 1 girl that I noticed that stuck at 100 for 30 price scale.
Worse, there have been changes to the line-up with the proportion of sharkie Barbies asking for ridiculous prices and likely offering mediocre service, increasing over others. What is a bad sign that may not occur to people visiting, is that several of the new LU is very new (I heard from some: a week, 3 days, 2 months) and do not speak German, which forced me to revert to English, which potentially locks me into a tourist-trap situation, where the girls proceed to make ridiculous offers. Apart from this, some of these girls are extremely stuck up which is a turn-off on so many levels, but this is also from experience, the sign of bad service providers banking on their looks and the stupidity of new customers. I could be wrong, but behaviour of not smiling back (I don't think the botox stuffed lips are the reason), Asian-hunting, going after one member of your group ignoring you then targetting you when they fail (actual quote "I know you want me"), are hooks, or at least they are not for me.
This time, as well as last, Asian hunting (I'm not trying to be facetious or offensive) was clear to see. Blonde girls approaching Asian guys like shooting fish in a barrel, however I wasn't expecting to now myself be fair game to their tactics.
To my shock, I got accosted by two of them who offered me (no joke) 30 minutes, 100 euros for each of them, lesbian show in the room, no details about actual service in the room ( Keine Ahnung ? You don't know what you're even offering?) etc etc.
Another approached in the kino, where I cut through the BS and immediately gave her my offer, she gave her out of the range counteroffer, I refused and just ignored her (most of the time I do refuse politely with a smile). At this point, I was wondering whether dating is less trouble than navigating this shit.
I stuck to my guns and was fully willing to leave without a room if things kept on like this. People do not travel this far out of the city for 100 euro mediocre service, or to my mind (see my RLD posts), even for a 50 euro session with no kissing and plastic blowjob, which you can have two for in the RLD with no entry fee. Or even better maybe, just rub yourself and hump some oily saran wrap.
Eventually however I gave in a little on the kissing , and with the introduction from one of my sessions last time, took Francinella (or something similar), slim 25 year-old (Romanian or Moldovan, who apparently changes her name twice a week). Session was good, (actually very good I guess, as I believe I had a double orgasm) but also I had enough tension to unleash as I waited till 12 (to be honest, not because none were necessarily possible before, but because I take my time anyway before chosing though usually not this much time...).
Then later around 4 am, dark fluent-German speaking Joanna (German / Kurdish, 23) who also clearly knew she was doing and whose session I did enjoy, before leaving.
No duds, nothing wasted
What other remarks are there? The African girls and 1 Cuban from last time were gone, making the LU a bit less diverse, but whatever.
Getting to experience the outside area was great and it was a sunny day. The food was good, available all the way into the early morning. Apart from my sessions, the girls, outside of the Barbie Shark circle, were fine and friendly, talkative, as long as you're nice back and try to build rapport. I noticed that the girls do notice when you've been there before (even if it was months ago).
I still enjoyed Oase, but I saw some worrying signs here today. No point in coming this far if what I saw here starts to become the norm. I would suggest not coming on a Saturday if you can help it, but the new members of the LU and the culture of upselling I saw makes me wonder where and hope that it was just because of the day. I'm curious how things have been lately on other days of the week?
Isn't Weekend Generally Poor?
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2176609]First to be put it briefly, a word of caution: Saturdays may not be the best time to show up at Oase but beyond that I seemed to experience upselling and significant attempts to rip-off from a line-up that consists of a large number of new girls.
If any of you read the report of [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=2148396#post2148396] my first visit[/url] two months ago, you'll know that I did really like this place and still do, but the line-up that I saw had undergone some changes in that time and all around worse pricing and service would make me discourage people from going on a Saturday, which I can only assume is the busiest day of the week. (From word of mouth, I've heard that Sharks also has large upswings in pricing on this day).
Headed to Oase with on Saturday with Triptogamont, arriving at 3 pm and leaving at closing time, 4:30 am.
The customer / girl ratio was way out of whack when we arrived, something along the lines of 10/1. Though of course this is the time when the girls just start arriving, for most of the rest of the evening, I would estimate it did not get anywhere near a good ratio, remaining at a stable 3/1 (to put it clearly 1 girl for every 3 customers).
It was a sunny day so that outside area was open and full of people. I'm willing to say that I saw more middle-aged male Italian ass than the type was looking for, outside. It got to the point that I was afraid that I might have caught Oase on a weekly Gay Night. Most of the girls regardless concentrate their activities inside, in the lounge / Kino and hallways.
And the law of supply and demand and resulting weakness in bargaining power was in effect, with the first several girls I was approached by or approached, offering maybe a minimum of 1 hour for 100 euros, or as was the case several times 100 euros for 30 minutes. Before even negociating for CBJ or kissing of course. Yes, I did find some that would do 50 but then without kissing and of course CBJ.
Please contrast this with my experience last time where there was only 1 girl that I noticed that stuck at 100 for 30 price scale.
Worse, there have been changes to the line-up with the proportion of sharkie Barbies asking for ridiculous prices and likely offering mediocre service, increasing over others. What is a bad sign that may not occur to people visiting, is that several of the new LU is very new (I heard from some: a week, 3 days, 2 months) and do not speak German, which forced me to revert to English, which potentially locks me into a tourist-trap situation, where the girls proceed to make ridiculous offers. Apart from this, some of these girls are extremely stuck up which is a turn-off on so many levels, but this is also from experience, the sign of bad service providers banking on their looks and the stupidity of new customers. I could be wrong, but behaviour of not smiling back (I don't think the botox stuffed lips are the reason), Asian-hunting, going after one member of your group ignoring you then targetting you when they fail (actual quote "I know you want me"), are hooks, or at least they are not for me.
This time, as well as last, Asian hunting (I'm not trying to be facetious or offensive) was clear to see. Blonde girls approaching Asian guys like shooting fish in a barrel, however I wasn't expecting to now myself be fair game to their tactics.
To my shock, I got accosted by two of them who offered me (no joke) 30 minutes, 100 euros for each of them, lesbian show in the room, no details about actual service in the room ( Keine Ahnung ? You don't know what you're even offering?) etc etc.
Another approached in the kino, where I cut through the BS and immediately gave her my offer, she gave her out of the range counteroffer, I refused and just ignored her (most of the time I do refuse politely with a smile). At this point, I was wondering whether dating is less trouble than navigating this shit.
I stuck to my guns and was fully willing to leave without a room if things kept on like this. People do not travel this far out of the city for 100 euro mediocre service, or to my mind (see my RLD posts), even for a 50 euro session with no kissing and plastic blowjob, which you can have two for in the RLD with no entry fee. Or even better maybe, just rub yourself and hump some oily saran wrap.
Eventually however I gave in a little on the kissing , and with the introduction from one of my sessions last time, took Francinella (or something similar), slim 25 year-old (Romanian or Moldovan, who apparently changes her name twice a week). Session was good, (actually very good I guess, as I believe I had a double orgasm) but also I had enough tension to unleash as I waited till 12 (to be honest, not because none were necessarily possible before, but because I take my time anyway before chosing though usually not this much time...).
Then later around 4 am, dark fluent-German speaking Joanna (German / Kurdish, 23) who also clearly knew she was doing and whose session I did enjoy, before leaving.
No duds, nothing wasted
What other remarks are there? The African girls and 1 Cuban from last time were gone, making the LU a bit less diverse, but whatever.
Getting to experience the outside area was great and it was a sunny day. The food was good, available all the way into the early morning. Apart from my sessions, the girls, outside of the Barbie Shark circle, were fine and friendly, talkative, as long as you're nice back and try to build rapport. I noticed that the girls do notice when you've been there before (even if it was months ago).
I still enjoyed Oase, but I saw some worrying signs here today. No point in coming this far if what I saw here starts to become the norm. I would suggest not coming on a Saturday if you can help it, but the new members of the LU and the culture of upselling I saw makes me wonder where and hope that it was just because of the day. I'm curious how things have been lately on other days of the week?[/QUOTE]I would think Saturday night would be the worst and is in many places worldwide. The more wealthy business men are not in town and the girls know it. So you get the double whammy of the locals showing up and many of the girls NOT showing up and voila sausage fest. Seems unfortunate but I think it is often true.