These women are smarter than one thinks
[QUOTE=Marlow]Sorry, but I am astonished that you guys are letting women like Natasha get away with it. No, her price is fixed by the club not by her. And no, blow jobs are obligatory. She left because she was kicked out by the management, I hope. Once men start paying over the odds for sex then this practice runs like widlfire through the rest of the girls. if you think handing over 100 euros for thirty minutes because she was 'passionate' is doing her a favour then please remember the disfavour you are doing the next monger. Also once you tolerate harrassment from a girl wanting to drag you to a room, then the whole club - as with Oase - descends to the level of a Laufhaus where the top floors are jungle territory inhabited by predatory creatures. I like German clubs for a lot of reasons I dislike the trade in, for example Britain or the USA or Holland for that matter, so I would hate to see it lose those qualities because girls learn they can rip you off with impunity.
On the other hand a reason for this trend rife in Oase and World and PHG (so it's really bad!) may be that the east european girls no longer see 50Euros as good money, because they can earn that and more at home now that prices there have risen sharply.[/QUOTE]
I think it only goes to show that these women are smarter than one thinks they are. Just because she do this for a living doesn't mean she isn't potential Mensa material.
If they can get away with 100 Euros for thirty minutes, that is what they will ask for. And so long as there are punters who will pay it, that is what they will try to get away with.
It all goes to their personal calculations of the price elasticity of demand. How steep is that curve? If they raise their prices, does their total revenue drop or does it stay the same?
If she averages ten clients in a day at 50 Euros per thirty minutes, does she average at least five clients a day if her rate goes to 100 Euros per thirty minutes?
Who wouldn't want to do half the work and make the same amount of money?
There is a rational economic being making these decisions and this is the proof right here. True, it is shortsighted because most of these women don't think in terms of Customer Relationship Management (CRM) but in terms of single individual transactions.
If I ran a business like this, I'd keep a small laptop handy and make type little notes to myself as to clients and their preferences. This is, of course, the nerdy side of me which wants to over analyze.
This is one reason why one shouldn't distort the pricing situation or subvert it by tipping, for example.
Yes, it is probably true that back home just across the former Iron Curtain her career options are getting better and better each year and this is likely to be behind her thinking she can charge more.
Maybe this isn't quite the case far out in the east in say, in Outer Mongolia (there is a Mongolian chick, Zula, who works at Blue Note, by the way) but in Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary the economies are doing better and women are less and less economically deprived.
Girls working but not working - Lia of Romania example
Theme: Is Natasha of Romania still at Oase and Girls working but not working, the Lia of Romania example.
[QUOTE=Marlow]Sorry, but I am astonished that you guys are letting women like Natasha get away with it. No, her price is fixed by the club not by her. And no, blow jobs are obligatory. She left because she was kicked out by the management, I hope. Once men start paying over the odds for sex then this practice runs like widlfire through the rest of the girls.[/QUOTE]
I do wonder if dark haired and tall Natasha of Romania has been sacked by Oase management or finally left Oase to move to Italy like she said after earning enough euros to fund the trip (no it is not the Louis Vuitton handbag, HK Tom Cruise but that comment made me laugh). I did not complain to the management about Natasha as I did not go to the room with her so yes I suppose I did let Natasha get away with it like you said.
Maybe it is the customers that let her not give them blowjobs that are the aggrieved parties in this transaction? If she told me up front that she did not give blowjobs then Natasha would be off the list. No need to think about it as I do like my blow jobs. If I was the guy where it took 20 minutes into the session to find she did not give blow jobs then I would be put out but might have just chalked it up to experience rather than complain to management and cause a scene where I would be marked.
These girls do talk to each other and they do have eyes and they can understand spoken English. There have been many a time where girl feedback to other girls has filtered back to me about my sexual preferences and whether I was okay/safe/clean/communicative to take for a session to the room.
Can another visitor to Oase who know whom that we refer to, being Natasha of Romania, confirm if she has left Oase or another case?
Now to change the subject: on a recent trip to Oase where I bumped into a couple of Swedish punters and some North American punters who read ISG that I had the following experience as well as my one with Natasha of Romania who was wanting €100 for half a hour in the sack.
This concerns Lia or Leia of Romania who is slim, petite build, dark haired, lightly tanned (but not dark, nor pale), B cups, pretty. I had not noticed her before as she is not my usual type. It was one of the North American men that had noticed her over the two days at Oase and had pointed her out to me on the second day wanting to know my opinion and if I had any data from my memories or experiences. I had no recollection of Lia of Romania so had to have him point her out to me.
The point that was raised by the North American was the girl was naked and just sat on the couch directly underneath the flat screen TV that shows sports in the main lounge area. This was her usual spot and she just sat there smoking cigarettes surveying the world go by for hours on end. The North American man had been observing her for some time it would seem.
Men would come up to her and try to make conversation with her but never seemed to go to the room with anyone. So it appears she had takers who wanted to find out her services but she was not offering although apparently at Oase to work.
The North American that I met said that he himself had not approached her to talk to her but he was intrigued as he liked her look. This particular day Lia was sitting on and off with a large, middle aged man. So when Lia was with the man she got no admirers coming to talk to her to take her to the room but ther were long periods when she just sat alone on the couch under
I decided that I would speak to her. I could not believe that I hesitated. A man that could not pick up a girl in a brothel? Rhetorical question. But the thought of being rejected in a FKK is something that can in some cases blow a man's ego as easily as it being blown when trying to pick up a girl who rejects you in any normal nightclub.
I went over to Lia of Romania and as I came within 1 metre of her she said to me "Busy" in German. She was all alone on the couch and smoking a cigarette. That was the end of the conversation. No interest in having a chat or "maybe later baby" or knowing who I was. The cold shoulder was raised and I had to leave.
I left Lia of Romania to continue to sit alone. I lost interest after that but the incident stayed with me because the North American man had bought it to my attention.
Later on that day, I saw the dark haired House Manager lady came out into the club. I could see the House Manager straining to see the girls in the dim light and she was definitely looking for someone in particular. The House Manager must have found who she was after and it was Lia. She found Lia sitting with the large middle aged man on the red couch under the flat screen television showing sports in the main lounge. The House Manager said a few words to Lia and Lia got up and went to the girl's changing room at the back of the building. About 10 minutes later Lia had come back into the main lounge area all changed into street clothes with her bag of belongings. Lia then just left the club.
Did Lia have to leave since she did not pay her House Fee? Or was it that someone was trying to contact her and ended up calling the Reception meaning that the House Manager had to come out to find her. Or was it something more conspiratorial where Lia had been refusing so many men and that it was noticed and the House Manager making a decision that this job is not right for her.
I do not know the answer, it was just that the incident stuck in my mind because once it was pointed out to me it was noticeable that Lia of Romania was refusing all customers and was just sitting with the large middle aged man who for all I know had paid for her companionship.
Just as another thought it would be hilarious that a man's wife had to ring Oase reception to ask the House Manager to find their husband to come home to share bath time with their new born baby and put baby to bed.
Kind regards
Londonbasketcase