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[QUOTE=CaptCabins; 1494092]Ouch reports without specific about girls LOL.
Yes to travel from the USA just to see FKK wives wow kinda feel sorry for you. Should try Tijuana in Mexico. Colombia would be a good destination too.
Syz to me Mainhattan is ok but line up is bellow par compared to Sharks or Oase. Better World IMHO.
I love Sharks now too. Well at least for a Hessen club.
Syzgies are you Asian?[/QUOTE] I am lazy about travel. Can't be bothered to even travel to NRW. I don't like the sound of the ratios between guys and girls at certain clubs like GT, and BB reporting having to leave a club by 7PM before it gets crazy. LOL I like places where there a real lot of girls to choose from and not so many guys. At Sharks and World, there are so many men sitting around not doing a lot of sessions, so plenty of good girls available. I think this has an influence on guys liking the place. At Oase, finding Lavinia available is not so easy these days and a couple years ago finding Lena or Luna available was even tougher.
Thanks for the advice although conflicting a bit with advice from Shark Eater. I guess I will have to try Mainhatten when expected to peak. Just one or two like Roxanna will be good enough for me. Meeting Roxanna at Sharks on day one was fairly convincing. Now have a few other favourites added. Kati who has just moved there from Palace is like a bigger Lavinia although service a little more passive (I don't care) and Maria is the big Russian porn star version of Lavinia. For sure you will like if she has returned from holidays.
No not Asian and I am not telling on the forum because it would be a identifying. I am like the only one from my country. Lets say I am Thai but don't look like one at all.
My company likes to offer me assignments in the US but I resist strongly being very happy with Germany. My work bias for US expired a long while back.
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@AfterDark240 and Syz.
Yes, at Oase I mainly observe to spot out the girls. Observing the girl's behavior works, it's the oldest way of getting a sense of people without direct communication. But most probable methods are "probable," sometimes just going for a girl you are attracted works also. I can tell you some of the outliers I've run into by just going for it, such as PHG's Latvian girl with bad vibe but fantastic in the room. At ACA, a Romanian that wasn't too polite outside the room, but was one of the best session I've ever had as a punter. My odds are pretty good with this method as I have about 70% success rate. Observing girls how quickly they come out of the room can be an indicator of either they get the men excited quickly or their service is bad. But if they are not new and repeatedly going in and out, that probably means they get the men exicted even if the session is short. Staying in the room full half hour is good indicator also. I personally don't think interaction at the paylocker reveal much. Oase girls usually have good attitudes with punters, but then you will run into a few that will give you a nasty face when you tell the the famous "maybe later" line. Those are the ones I never went with ever. So politely rejecting them and seeing their attitude could cue you in on how their general attitude would be like. When I first started visiting Oase, I was too afraid to reject the girls so I tried to be very polite, but now I realize that most of them has been working there for years and they are hardened. Also check to see if the BBBJ at the cinema is offered by the girls, I used to take advantage of couch time at the cinema with some kissing and nice relaxing BBBJ. I got to say the girls I've run into at Oase had some good BBBJ skills, no teeth, soft and nice. Hopefully they continuously get new girls with good optics and services as they have in the past. There hasn't been much reports of newer girls, so I'm not having much faith in Oase as of current. One more thing to add, Tuesday is a good day when it comes to ratio of girls to men as not many men are present at the beginning of the week. So more girls will be freed up majority of the time, and you will be approached more often than busier days. Sorry to make this sound like a study. It is quite interesting how things work at these clubs. Maybe one day I would get a grant to attend SCs and FFKs so I can do a study and write a graduate thesis. Get a Phd in FKK punting. lol.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1494388]I am lazy about travel. Can't be bothered to even travel to NRW. I don't like the sound of the ratios between guys and girls at certain clubs like GT, and BB reporting having to leave a club by 7PM before it gets crazy. LOL I like places where there a real lot of girls to choose from and not so many guys. At Sharks and World, there are so many men sitting around not doing a lot of sessions, so plenty of good girls available. I think this has an influence on guys liking the place. At Oase, finding Lavinia available is not so easy these days and a couple years ago finding Lena or Luna available was even tougher.[/QUOTE]Ok, I was wondering why I don't get reports from you on NRW clubs. Even at GT, there are many men that do not go to the room(beer is frei), and even the early week line-up is good and ratio is better. If you haven't been there, and inferring probably isn't sound as actually taking a look yourself. Something I've realized is that reports are reports and what you witness is what you witness. I've been to many clubs and will try others. So, if you haven't been to the NRW, take a shot. I'm interested in your reports on the clubs there. There are clubs in the NRW with plenty of girls / men so no excuses. And the pricing is right. 75 / hour. 50 Anal, and 25 CIM.
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"Spaeter Vielleicht"
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1494391] Oase girls usually have good attitudes with punters, but then you will run into a few that will give you a nasty face when you tell the the famous "maybe later" line. Those are the ones I never went with ever. So politely rejecting them and seeing their attitude could cue you in on how their general attitude would be like.[/QUOTE]One guy on a forum even has a handle "Spaeter Vielleicht" (maybe later).
This is a good point. I did not go with Lavinia first time I met her, silly me but definitely took her the following week, likewise I rejected Sylvia (Hun) stupidly the first time, and finally she was best session ever at Oase. Both were very polite of course when initially did not take them. Other girls I have consistently rejected and they wonder why. Sometimes just not my spec (Veronica, Amelia).
Smart girls will know that a guy needs a break, needs time to decide, wants to feel he is making the decision himself, and will best know his girl type. Smart girls also know some tricks to hook the guys in a less direct way.
Watch the girls behaviour. This is more useful than listening to what the girl says. Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear.
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Hotel prices!
[QUOTE=Shark16; 1492159]When in Frankfurt my preference is budget alternatives located close to the clubs as I am just in a hotel / guesthouse to sleep a few hours before I head back to the club / next club anyway. Also, I like the convenience of avoiding the late night travel to downtown. So, for those who are looking for the same I made a report a while ago which I think still stands (pricing mostly in the 35- 50E range). See.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1464-FKK-World-Giessen&p=1204551&viewfull=1#post1204551[/url]
In addition to the hotel / guesthouse alternatives in the report you can add:
- Hotel- Garni "Zum Trunk" in Friedrichsdorf-Köppern just a 10 mnts taxi ride from Oase. Very simple, but adequate (thanks to Bread for that one!). Around 35E I believe it was. Email.
[url]hotel-trunk@t-online.de[/url]
- Zum Grünen Baum in Garbenteich very close to World (as recommended by Syzy and Ortos / Optimist) ; see.
[url]http://www.zumgrünenbaum-pohlheim.de/[/url]
So, local budget alternatives exist for those who want it.
Note: These alternatives are mostly of very modest / simple standard. Also, speaking / writing a little bit of German is a great advantage when trying out the smallest local family hotels / guesthouses (the staff not always used to foreign language clientele). Also note I have never tried out the cheapest alternatives around Hauptbahnhof and therefore I am not able to compare in detail.
Gents who like to travel in style have plenty of other local options both in Bad Homburg and in Giessen of course.[/QUOTE]Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices-
- Mercure / FRIEDRICHSDORF- $128 / night.
- Best western. $125++/Nt.
- Hotel Union, Munchener Str. (Central Station area)- $134 / Nt.
- ibis Frankfurt Centrum- $180.
The indications I got here in the forum was I should get in 60/70E range ($100<). Am I not doing something right?
What star ratings would imply decent / general amenities? Also what 'areas' should I look at besides 'central station' - what is name for Oase area or World area in hotel site?(Difficult to figure it out on the map)
Thanks
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1494399]Even at GT, there are many men that do not go to the room(beer is frei).[/QUOTE]I guess you mean the beer is free ("kostenlos","kostenfrei". Cost free)?
I can see some guys at Sharks hardly doing a girl (in some cases not one) on Sundays. 40 Euro entry and they can eat food, take a few coffees etc, and do their wellness shit.
I can cook food, make a good coffee, don't see a great reason to cook myself in the sauna, and hate real Thai massage (torture) , so I am definitely there for the sex. Nothing else really matters once there are 3 or more great girls. The cost of course matters.
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[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1494405]Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices-
- Mercure / FRIEDRICHSDORF- $128 / night.
- Best western. $125++/Nt.
- Hotel Union, Munchener Str. (Central Station area). $134 / Nt.
- ibis Frankfurt Centrum- $180.
The indications I got here in the forum was I should get in 60/70E range ($100<). Am I not doing something right?
What star ratings would imply decent / general amenities? Also what 'areas' should I look at besides 'central station'. What is name for Oase area or World area in hotel site? (Difficult to figure it out on the map)
Thanks[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Banana Boi; 1493876][url]Http://www.messefrankfurt.com/content/corporate/frankfurt/en/messe/publikationen/messekalender/[/url]
If FRA isn't your destination city the search Google "city Messe calendar".[/QUOTE]There must be a Messe (or Fair) going on during the week. Edit: Prices are fine, nothing major going on.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1494410]There must be a Messe (or Fair) going on during the week.[/QUOTE]
Some events (nothing that huge I think) however I know the Concorde Hotel is fully booked on Monday 18 Nov. so maybe Food Ingredients fair is big and perhaps EuroMold:
Food Ingredients Europe 2013 Trade fair Germany Frankfurt am Main 19. 11. 2013. 21. 11. 2013
EWEA Offshore 2013 Trade fair Germany Frankfurt am Main 19. 11. 2013. 21. 11. 2013
27. Kongress der DGI: Gemeinsam in die Zukunft. Dialoge an Schnittstellen Congress
Germany Frankfurt am Main 28. 11. 2013. 30. 11. 2013
EuroMold 2013 Trade fair Germany Frankfurt am Main 03. 12. 2013. 06. 12. 2013
Black Sabbath Concert Germany Frankfurt am Main 04. 12. 2013. 04. 12. 2013
8. Deutscher Wirbelsäulenkongress Congress Germany Frankfurt am Main 05. 12. 2013. 07. 12. 2013
Try Trivago website. There are several Frankfurt Hotels starting at 40 Euros a night in that week starting Mon 2 Dec: Central, Alpha, Jaguar, Primus, Aria, etc. May not be right at the Central Rail Station, to get a cheap price. I did not check locations, but most within 2 km and can use the U-Bahn.
If you want a really class Hotel you will have to pay more, but if its just a bed to crash, why pay so much more?
Oase is near to Friedrichsdorf or even nearer to the village of Burgholzhausen.
World is near Giessen (18 Euro cab ride) or very near to the village of Garbenteich (Pohlheim) See www.zumgrünenbaum-pohlheim.de (need to book in advance).
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1494409]I guess you mean the beer is free ("kostenlos","kostenfrei". Cost free)?
I can see some guys at Sharks hardly doing a girl (in some cases not one) on Sundays. 40 Euro entry and they can eat food, take a few coffees etc, and do their wellness shit.
I can cook food, make a good coffee, don't see a great reason to cook myself in the sauna, and hate real Thai massage (torture) , so I am definitely there for the sex. Nothing else really matters once there are 3 or more great girls. The cost of course matters.[/QUOTE]Syz,
This happen in every clubs, the girls told me some men are just coming to the club for food and drinks, chat and feel up the girls, wasting their time but won't session, instead those men go home and jerk off or they might even jerk before coming to the club!
Pathetic, oh well their choice.
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Yes, as Syz pointed out, nothing major going on. Look into price comparison websites.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1494413]Some events (nothing that huge I think) however I know the Concorde Hotel is fully booked on Monday 18 Nov.
Try Trivago website. There are several Frankfurt Hotels starting at 40 Euros a night in that week starting Mon 2 Dec: Central, Alpha, Jaguar, Primus, Aria, etc. May not be right at the Central Rail Station, to get a cheap price. I did not check locations, but most within 2 km and can use the U-Bahn.
If you want a really class Hotel you will have to pay more, but if its just a bed to crash, why pay so much more?[/QUOTE]Yes, hotel prices are not bad for that week actually. Quick search to Booking.com shows that rates are pretty typcial of non-major-Messe times.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1494299]if they say extra, don't go for it(unless you want to pay that extra)[/QUOTE]Hey PL,
I agree with 99, 99% of what you are saying, just adding to "unless you want to pay that extra": I think this is a big rookie mistake and would strongly recommend to NEVER yield to paying extra for something that is not considered an extra (ball-licking, fingering, kissing, massage, spanking, toy play). Girls will quickly talk with each other how easy it is to make you pay extra for "nothing" (by creating alternative price lists) , so from then on you will be the target of all the sharks in the club, not only the infamous sharks, but also the "supposed-to-be" nice girls who may also try taking advantage of you. Not a good idea.
Of new girls tried out at Oase in 2013, I had zero rip-offs, 20% were substandard, 50% decent to good, and 30% very good making it to my the reapeat-list. 2013 was no different than previous years. To me.
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[QUOTE=SBTiger; 1494405]Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices-
-The indications I got here in the forum was I should get in 60/70E range ($100<). Am I not doing something right?[/QUOTE]I think Syzy and PL have pretty much answered this already. Just confirming that prices quickly rise during big messe (exhibition) events. Also, when I want the best deals I usually book a hotel 2- 3 months in advance (or even more).
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1494409]I guess you mean the beer is free ("kostenlos","kostenfrei". Cost free)?
I can see some guys at Sharks hardly doing a girl (in some cases not one) on Sundays. 40 Euro entry and they can eat food, take a few coffees etc, and do their wellness shit.
I can cook food, make a good coffee, don't see a great reason to cook myself in the sauna, and hate real Thai massage (torture) , so I am definitely there for the sex. Nothing else really matters once there are 3 or more great girls. The cost of course matters.[/QUOTE]Yes, I did mean "free." Yes, I think when I was at Sharks, I may have taken the sausage fest the wrong way, probably the men were just hanging around not going to the room.
If you cook up some nice dishes, I don't see the food being of much concern given you live in FRA. At some clubs in NRW such as GT, LV, and PHG as examples food is pretty well made. At GT and LV, they serve breakfast deli in addition to other european breakfast options, and they have a chef there to cook eggs your way. They have ingredients to cook some delicious omlet. That's not all, the chef is there most of the club opening and well change up what they cook throughout the day. For example, fries and ribs, and soup available with pastries. Also the varieties of beer offered are in bottled form and they are constantly stocked in the fridge for taking. Later at night pizza is available after chef leaves. At PHG during a German holiday, they would bring out snacks at various times. Berliners, pineapples, and etc. Their BBQ is really good also. The services by the management try to provide as cozy atmosphere as possible. And girls there are pretty nice, and men mostly hang around the girls not going to the room frequently. So, no wonder men come to these clubs to just relax and not go to the room.
I will be down at the NRW later this month, if you want to check out the clubs there, I will have a car and can show you around and point you to some nice girls. Unfortunately, you don't accept PM.
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[QUOTE=SBTiger;1494405]Trying to book hotel for 1st week of December, the websites (hotels. Com / booking. Com) are showing very high prices.[/QUOTE]I checked some prices just for fun with.
[url]www.booking.com[/url]
I selected a whole week, from Monday 2. Dec until Sunday 8. Dec. 6 nights.
1. Hotel Excelcior, next to main train station in Frankfurt. 420 €, equals 70€/night.
2. Hotel Mercure in Friedrichsdorf. 444 €, equals 74 €/night.
Both medium class hotels. Breakfast was included.
I recommend you to book the hotels quickly before the prices rise.
-Kepp