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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2155125]The place was full of girls. Girls to guys ratio was at least 5. I guess all punters was gone to World. I have taken Daniela from Spain and two other romanians. I got BBBJ and DFK without extra payment. Only Daniela asked for additional payment for DFK and BBBJ as expected and I included CIM to this price. And at the end I couldn't resist to come inside her. (with condom of course) . And she gave me some massage to compansate the price. Due to low number of men some girls were too aggressive. For example the fat black haired Greek girl asked me 5 times. I enjoyed the place. Oral sex in kino not exist anymore. Food was bad again. The lamb they gave was the worst I ever had. Again chicken and chicken.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, without fair visitors the club is in a poor shape, like me many regular left, since 4 months I stopped to visit this club, Mauro the manager has to send a strong positive signal to us or we will never return. He knows what to do to get back the lost customers. But may be like palace and Mainhattan he just wants to target foreign visitors.
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Oase 16/03/2018 and 17/03/2018.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154852]And so to the last night of my trip and a visit to Oase. Having spent the day in Frankfurt where it was bitterly cold in wind with an icy chill, I actually contemplated not going to Oase or any FKK at all. I'd spent the last two nights in Oceans and Sharks until the early hours, had completed some great rooms and hours but perhaps age was catching up on me, and the thought of a workout, followed by a long soak in a hot bath or jacuzzi and a nice meal in the hotel was actually very appealing. If I lived in Germany I'd have taken a break last night. But us tourists don't have the luxury of skipping valuable FKK time. I don't live in a country where these clubs exist at all and hey. It was my final night.
Took the train to Bad Homburg. Had read in this forum years ago some great advice that there are frequently very few taxis at Freidrichsdorf HBF. I'd once not believed it, took the train all the way to Freidrichsdorf only to find no taxis and ended up having to call Oase to send one to me. No such problem at Bad Homburg and 20 euros later I arrived. At that point there was no sign of the snow which was to follow whilst I was enjoying the club.
Immediately appreciated that the club was very busy. I arrived at 7 pm. There were only 4 locker keys available! Paid entry and was given key to locker 150. Nightmare. Right at the end of a row full of guys. I later changed to 052 under protest from the front desk. It was impossible most of the time to get to my locker! By 8 pm there were no locker keys left at all. I wondered what happens then? Do they turn guys away? Would be interested to know from more experienced regulars..[/QUOTE]I was at Oase Friday and Saturday the club was full of girls but no guys the locker rooms were empty and no waiting for the rooms the girls often ask for 100 per half hour but if you negotiate well no worries for 50.
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There are a lot of scammers like Beatrice who asks for 150 euros per half hour who asks even 300 euros for half an hour to the Chinese with her girlfriend Yvonna do not let you do.
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Line up.
Girls seen this weekend: Beatrice, Yvonn,a Anna, Alina, Marina, Mickaela, Chayenne, Adela, Vera, Helena, Raissa, Elisabeth, Antonia, Nelly, Selena, Catherine, Ama, Alice, Juicy, Joanna, Arabella, Heidi, Carla some new girls I forget the name.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154977]Perfectly fair point and in this club obviously the thing to do. But I have enough trouble not losing the FOB that's attached to my wrist without losing another one! Fair point though and I'll give I a go next time. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Didn't get that. There's one single key for the safe and the lockers.
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Nice to see Katharina is so popular from the several posts below. I guess I had good taste on my visit earlier this month.
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Hello
Hi Everyone.
I am planning to visit from Amsterdam to Oase. Can anyone please guide.
Cheers.
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That's her.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2154988]Is she model type, long chestnut hair, beautiful green eyes, long nose, Bulgarian? But no sensuality in bed for my room on 2017, 50 were enough for her, done but no need to repeat even she kissed a bit. At least she is honest and pretty, but that s not enough to dream. But possible to have 50 room with her. When I enjoy, I never stay only 30 mn with a enjoyable girl.[/QUOTE]Yes that's her Siri. Good description and yes she is definitely Bulgarian. Was quite offended if I asked if she was Romanian. I agree she is honest and I would like more time with her.
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Ah = Katharina the Great
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2155149]Nice to see Katharina is so popular from the several posts below. I guess I had good taste on my visit earlier this month.[/QUOTE]Thanks for giving me her correct name!
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2155125] Oral sex in kino not exist anymore.[/QUOTE]An end of era, it seems public action will soon vanish in Germany FKK if it didn't already. End of March I'll visit Oase / World. I'm way into public action, now that news already messed my mood. I guess I'll alternate between Germany / Austria, Germany for the 100+ FKK clubs, Austria for public action (public legal BBBJ).
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[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2155176]An end of era, it seems public action will soon vanish in Germany FKK if it didn't already. End of March I'll visit Oase / World. I'm way into public action, now that news already messed my mood. I guess I'll alternate between Germany / Austria, Germany for the 100+ FKK clubs, Austria for public action (public legal BBBJ).[/QUOTE]You will still find it at GT kino. When the weather is nicer you can resume sex outside at Oase.
I have faith that Palace's kino will continue to be a place where public action happens.
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[QUOTE=AgarWalk;2155150]Hi Everyone.
I am planning to visit from Amsterdam to Oase. Can anyone please guide.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]What would you like to know. That is one of my most frequented drives, about 4 hours. Trains can take much longer because of transfers.
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[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2155176]An end of era, it seems public action will soon vanish in Germany FKK if it didn't already. End of March I'll visit Oase / World. I'm way into public action, now that news already messed my mood. I guess I'll alternate between Germany / Austria, Germany for the 100+ FKK clubs, Austria for public action (public legal BBBJ).[/QUOTE]And you are aware of Easter dates? And how it effect lineups?
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[QUOTE=Brouck103;2155134]I was at Oase Friday and Saturday the club was full of girls but no guys the locker rooms were empty and no waiting for the rooms the girls often ask for 100 per half hour but if you negotiate well no worries for 50.[/QUOTE]Empty club and still the girls asking 100 for 30 minutes, they need really to come back to earth, a top German escort, real student costs 200 hundred for 2 hours including everything even anal if the girl is okay. They just put a condom for the intercourse but all the rest including fingering is without, a long way to go for some Roumanian girls. In fact after 10 years in those big Hessen clubs in the last 6 months I was so upset about how the girls mostly Roumanian are trying to get benefit from the new law by asking so many extra that I switched to middle size clubs were you get great service for reasonable price, for example today 45 minutes with a top girls no anal but CIM, fingering, kissing. 100 euros, no stress to negotiate nothing the girl know me after several rooms we go I enjoy my time and at the end I ask her how much as simple as that and for me like this it should be in all clubs.
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[QUOTE=AgarWalk;2155150]Hi Everyone.
I am planning to visit from Amsterdam to Oase. Can anyone please guide.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Take the 8 am ICE train to Frankfurt airport. It arrives just before 12 pm. Then walk about 5 minutes to the regional train terminal located under the airport building. Take the S8/9 to Franfurt main train station, followed by S5 to Friedrichsdorf. Then 10 euro taxi to Oase. You should arrive at around 1 pm. 5 hours in total. No point arriving earlier as few girls would there and those there are not the pretty ones.
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[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2155176]An end of era, it seems public action will soon vanish in Germany FKK if it didn't already. End of March I'll visit Oase / World. I'm way into public action, now that news already messed my mood. I guess I'll alternate between Germany / Austria, Germany for the 100+ FKK clubs, Austria for public action (public legal BBBJ).[/QUOTE]BBBJ still available in public in opened kino at Oase, some girls still looking for extra 50 for CIM. Also still available at GT, Harmny and Atmos, kino in public.
New law was not the end of FKK world, because WGs will always look for money, and pimps / fish also, to buy Mercedes.
CIM is only enjoyable for me, when during passion and free of charge. Otherwise, I prefer to fuck than CIM.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2155393]You will still find it at GT kino. When the weather is nicer you can resume sex outside at Oase.
I have faith that Palace's kino will continue to be a place where public action happens.[/QUOTE]Never went to GT, and I'm not planning as I heard that they discriminate against other races during entry to the club.
From what I gathered, Palace currently is a no go BBBJ wise not in private and certianly not in public.
[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2155528]And you are aware of Easter dates? And how it effect lineups?[/QUOTE]You mean I should postpone my visit to after April? If so, I wish I have the freedom to pick an choose my vacation days, I can't as I work and study at the same time with recurrent exam dates. Anyways it's too late rn, I already booked everything.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2155557]BBBJ still available in public in opened kino at Oase, some girls still looking for extra 50 for CIM. Also still available at GT, Harmny and Atmos, kino in public.
New law was not the end of FKK world, because WGs will always look for money, and pimps / fish also, to buy Mercedes.
CIM is only enjoyable for me, when during passion and free of charge. Otherwise, I prefer to fuck than CIM.[/QUOTE]Good news, as always you are way too positive and I'm way too negative, but I'll keep those places in mind for my next trip.
For me CIM is overrated because before I got into the FKK scene, I used to monger outside Europe, and where I used to go, Russian / Ukrainian WG didn't always offer BBBJ, however when they do offer BBBJ, CIM was 90% of the time without extra charge. So for me lCIM is less tempting to have for 50 euro as it was always included for free for me.
Now I use CIM only if I really had good session in FKK, it's my way to tip.
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Girls with strap on in FKK?
Hi,
I'm new to this world of FKK clubs. ! Have never been to an FKK club. Will be going soon hopefully. I have a question though. Is it possible to get girls in an FKK club with toys? If I have a fetish of getting fucked by a girl with a strap on dildo, would something like this be possible in an FKK club?
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[QUOTE=Dude3086;2155792]Hi,
I'm new to this world of FKK clubs. ! Have never been to an FKK club. Will be going soon hopefully. I have a question though. Is it possible to get girls in an FKK club with toys? If I have a fetish of getting fucked by a girl with a strap on dildo, would something like this be possible in an FKK club?[/QUOTE]A girl I know at World (who also worked at Palace) told me she once fucked a Bundesliga footballer with a strap on.
I didn't enquire about prices...
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2155902]A girl I know at World (who also worked at Palace) told me she once fucked a Bundesliga footballer with a strap on.
I didn't enquire about prices...[/QUOTE]Yes, and what I know from girls employed by certain players and bands is also fun. The girls make you realise that all sorts happens LOL.
Dude. If you pay they will do. Quite a few girls have offered me. I think secretly they enjoy it. I have never taken them up on the toys offer. Enjoy
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[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2155657]Never went to GT, and I'm not planning as I heard that they discriminate against other races during entry to the club.
You mean I should postpone my visit to after April? If so, I wish I have the freedom to pick an choose my vacation days, I can't as I work and study at the same time with recurrent exam dates. Anyways it's too late rn, I already booked everything.
[/QUOTE]I hope there will still be some nice girls but this year 01 April is protestan easter (in Germany) and 08 April is Orthodox easter (In romania) so many girls will combine these holidays and they will be off through the end of March and they will return back about one week after Orthodox easter. So I would avoid 25 March to 15 April period. But anyway I hope you enjoy your visit.
Possibility of being denied in GT not so high. I saw an indian gentleman inside who lives in NY. And I am always allowed though I have a very turkish look with beard.
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[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2155657]Never went to GT, and I'm not planning as I heard that they discriminate against other races during entry to the club.[/QUOTE]I did see 2 younger Turkish guys on my last visit to GT. I think they are loosening up their discriminatory entrance policy. It was still mostly Western European and Asian men but I think this was the first time I saw Turkish guys there, and noticeably young ones too.
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[QUOTE=Dude3086;2155792]Hi,
I'm new to this world of FKK clubs. ! Have never been to an FKK club. Will be going soon hopefully. I have a question though. Is it possible to get girls in an FKK club with toys? If I have a fetish of getting fucked by a girl with a strap on dildo, would something like this be possible in an FKK club?[/QUOTE]In a FKK everything is possible it is just a contract between two or more adults if the girls and you agree let's go.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2155528]And you are aware of Easter dates? And how it effect lineups?[/QUOTE]Awwww crap! I am planning to visit on the 26th!! How bad of LU should I expect?
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[QUOTE=Mander;2156012]Awwww crap! I am planning to visit on the 26th!! How bad of LU should I expect?[/QUOTE]By 26 April, line ups should be very good. Last 2 years I have gone for 2 weeks at the end of April and beginning of May and the line ups are strongest.
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Girls normally just take about 2 weeks of easter vacation. Maximum 3 weeks could be influenced. So last week of March and first 2 weeks of April. But most are probably back by 2nd weekend of April.
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2 Days at Oase.
I follow my 2 days at Sharks with 2 days at Oase.
Monday.
With only a few days left of holiday I wanted to go somewhere where I could relax all day and make use of Wifi in order to send emails on my laptop in preparation for being able to hit the ground running when I return home. Oase is that club for me in Hessen, Acapulco when in NRW.
I stayed at the Mecure the previous night and strolled around the small town of Bad Homberg before heading to Oase. It's a nice town actually with lots of little boutique shops, deli's, and bakeries. I finally make my way to Oase by 2 pm and quickly grab a snack and claim my favorite spot in the relax room. Heading to the main room, there were only 5 or 6 girls present, I forget the names as I only visit Oase about 6 or 7 times per year. I intend to make more visits in 2018. After denying a couple of familiar faces.
Blonde Romanian Anna approached me. She has a large winged tattoo on her back and lips that perked up. 165 cm with "A" cups. She was just a completely warm and nice girl that gave me a good feeling about the room so I did not hesitate long before going with her. She did ask if this was my first time at the club in which I responded that it was not my first time but I don't come so often anymore because so many always try to ask for more money for good service. She laughed and understood completely what I was hinting at and said to not worry, and that we will have a wonderful time. We head off to room 3 and began a great room.
She began with rubbing her hands all over my body and kissing on my chest and make her way down to my cock, starting a very good Blowjob with a lot of spit for lubrication. I ask her if she like 69 and she says "of course, who does not?" She's be surprised, LOL. Some nice reverse cowgirl followed, leading up to doggy, then missionary, and finally me on top of her from behind. At first she kept checking the condom but I eventually grab her wrists and continue fucking her with her in Superman position. I eventually finish and see that the condom was just hanging on to the head of my cock with no cum getting in her. She sees it but does not make a big deal about it. This girl is a sweet one and a must repeat for me.
The next few hours were spent playing on the computer and messaging friends and family back home. I had an hour sleep with some sauna time thrown in. Night shift did not reveal too many more high optics so I decide to go with an old regular around midnight. Daniella from Spain is one of favorite girls for behavior and sensuality.
She is a 168 cm dark haired brunnette with "A" cups and a lip ring stud. I would rate her only a 7 for optics but I still go with her because she is sweet to me and gives a great massage. We catch up in the room as it has been over 6 months since our last room and she tells me stories of her new used car and how the rats near her apartment have been eating at the wires. Anyway, we start with a back massage which lead to a nice Blowjob and her getting on top, cowgirl. I finish with her laying down from behind and proceeded to give her a massage in return. It was a nice relaxing hour with and old regular.
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Oase Day 2.
Tuesday.
Today would be my last day of the holiday so I returned to Oase hoping for a stronger line up than Monday and I got what I wanted!
Three girls today.
My first was with Claudia, a 25+ Brunnette with chin length hair, slim with tattoos. I tried going with her a year ago but she had asked for 150/ HR for good service. This time, she had no objections to my 1 hour proposal. In the room, she provided everything that you would want, DFK, DATY, great BJ. She was exceptionally good from top as she said she has been working with a trainer at the gym. Her hard work has been paying off. She quickly mentions an upsell of Anal which I declined. After her working hard the first half of the hour, I do the rest of the work during the second half from missionary, doggy, and her laying down. It was a great one hour room in which I was glad that she did not upsell to 150 this time. She's a must repeat for me. The only annoying part was that she asked for a tip at the locker in which I gave her a funny look. She quickly replied, "I know, Romanian," gave me a kiss, smiled, and walked off.
The second room was with Adele, blond, bolt-ons, and is probably in her later 20's. I've seen her before but have always heard mixed reviews. She finally approached and said that she has seen me many times and asked why I never talk to her. I told her that my friend told me that she always asks for more money for good service and I didn't like that. She promised me a good time so I figured I'd take her for a half hour spin. In the room she was actually better than I thought she would be. She kissed, gave a great blowjob and was a great rider. She was more of a high energy fuck than a girlfriend fuck but she did provide good sensual kissing. That was enough to call it a good room, one of the few good service half hours found at Oase.
I waited quite some time before calling it a night as this would be my last room of the entire trip. I slept in the relax room for about 3 hours, drinking lots of water to rehydrate.
I first go into the main room and targeted 19 year old Brunette Ariana looking very sexy. I told her how pretty she was and that I will want her later. She says she will leave at midnight but hopes to see me. I meet two Americans in the relax lounge and we return to the main lounge around 11 pm. Ariana sits next to us and Claudia sits next to one of my new friends. The group spends the next 45 minutes on the couch drinking and flirting until one guy takes a the blond girl from Serbia. The other guy takes Claudia and I was the last man with Ariana. We finally go into a room by midnight and she does slow roll the start of sex. She kept dancing in the room and said that she wants to get to know me better. I wasn't in a hurry as I new that I only had 140 euros left in the locker and would not extend past 1 hour anyway. She kept dancing and showing of her ass. We had previous talked about the concept of strip clubs and lap dances in America in which she offered to give me the American lap dance that intrigued her. She actually caught on really quick, making use of the great American "ass-job" as she rubbed my cock by grinding on it with her ass. Her blowjob was magnificent, nice and very wet. Sex was good as she is young, loves to dance, and does not tire out. Knowing that the hour was coming to a close, I slung her over and finished in my favorite position with her laying down and me entering from behind.
With all off the couch time and the lap-dance, I could not have asked for a better last room.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2156222]Girls normally just take about 2 weeks of easter vacation. Maximum 3 weeks could be influenced. So last week of March and first 2 weeks of April. But most are probably back by 2nd weekend of April.[/QUOTE]Orthodox Easter is one week later then the christian one so don't expect a great LU before end of April.
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[QUOTE=Creature2;2057649]Was lucky enough to get rid off job dutys and found myself at the gate of Oase at noon time. The shattered storms and rain gone in yesterday evening and it was sunny and warm, perfect conditions for me to get use of newly arrenged garden and pool of Oase, which I admire most.
I also met a fellow ISG'er in the club, Speedy Steel44, it was a great opportunity to chat with an English speaker forum comrade and exchange opinions. I like to read your detailed field reports mate, please keep posting.
For a Friday, there were fewer girl in the garden area, when I compared with this Wednesday. But I am sure the line up will recover in the late afternoon or during the night shift, because this is Friday and there will be a DJ show in the evening. But unfortunately I will not be able to see the night shift this time, cause I had to catch a flight back home in the evening.[/QUOTE]Reception at Oase is strict. I read a post here where a guy took a girl to reception after she said her pussy is too small or it hurt and reception said if your pussy can't perform, go home come tomorrow. The guy paid 20 euro. You. I know this is an old post, but after about 8 months she still does the same thing. If you go to a restaurant, pay for a prefix menu, and then get only an appetizer, do you also give up? I think that this is pretty much the same.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2157597]Reception at Oase is strict. I read a post here where a guy took a girl to reception after she said her pussy is too small or it hurt and reception said if your pussy can't perform, go home come tomorrow. The guy paid 20 euro. You. I know this is an old post, but after about 8 months she still does the same thing. If you go to a restaurant, pay for a prefix menu, and then get only an appetizer, do you also give up? I think that this is pretty much the same.[/QUOTE]This is not true, if the guy is too big and the girls too small nobody can oblige her to perform or telling her to go home, on top of all if you are a gentleman behaving correctly with the girls you will never go to the reception just the assholes are doing it, it is just a pity that nowadays so many stupid guys are visiting the clubs.
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Live Report
So I've finally returned to FKK Oase. It's Monday 5:00 pm and a bit slow, but that also means I've got all the girls and the facilities to myself! I think there are about 20 girls ranging from 7's to 9's. I don't have trouble finding a girl I find attractive, and I am a very picky bastard.
I forgot how much I liked Oase's facility and amenites. I love having a relaxation room with wifi! Also beer is 5 euro today!
Beatrice from Italy first caught my eyes. She has a pretty face, tall & slim body, and nice natural tits. Our eyes meet and I say Hello, and she welcomes me. I first made sure that she does BBBJ with no extra charge. And she's up for everything including greek! I negotiate the price to traditional 150 for 30 min. We have a hot and steamy time and she gave me a great BBBJ, wrap me up, then settle down on with my dick into her ass! It's nice and tight so I squeeze and suck on her delightful tits. I switch to k9 and pump away and wanted to do mish but she doesn't like that. So I lay her on her side and plummel into her ass until I finish.
It's 6:00 pm so I went to the cafeteria and ate dinner. I think the food has gotten better since last time. I really like the varities of entrees. I made my reservation for massage, which I really liked last time, grab a beer, and settle down for recharge. I plan to do 3 more sessions tonight. I will update as I take breaks between sessions!
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[QUOTE=Mander;2158730]Beatrice from Italy
I will update as I take breaks between sessions![/QUOTE]Italy. Sure. The only Italian at Oase is Mauro.
Thanks for the updates. The will have the side effect of revealing your nick to the girls.
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Live Report, Part Two
So the beer gave me a good buzz and I took a brief nap. And woke up at 7:30 pm. I just might be able to squeeze a session before my 8:00 pm massage appointment. A pretty faced girl named Tina catches my eyes. She's from Moldova and quickly cozies up to me. First and foremost, I'm a face guy so it's to my liking and I am in a mood for something more than vanilla sex. Unfortunately she's not into BBBJ. Hey, why not throw in her bleached blonde friend for 50 more?
In the room we get a good action going with Tina and her friend (I have the darnest time remembering her name). Tina's friend has a really nice pink eraser nipple so I nibble on it while she wraps me up and settles down on me CG. We go from CG to K9 to mish while Tina lets me suckle on her tits, sucks my tits, then masturbates while I fuck her friend. Now comes off the wrap and Tina blows me like there's no tomorrow while her friends licks my chest. I blow my load into Tina's hot mouth and end the session.
It's 8:00 pm now and time for my massage. The massage lady remembers my last visit few years ago! I really liked her massage so I've booked 90 min and pass out during the massage. Now I'm in a bathroom doing #2 and writing this. Wifi signal is much better here than the resting room! I plan to relax and enjoy the spa until around 12:00 am then go for another session. Will keep you guys posted.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2158766]The will have the side effect of revealing your nick to the girls.[/QUOTE]Sorry I can be a bit slow. Are you suggesting that I should not have included so much details? It would have ill effects on me or girls?
As for fake nationalities, I also give fake name so it's pretty fair.
Not going to post more updates until I get some clarifications. Sorry if I stepped over any boundaries.
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Beatrice
[QUOTE=Mander;2158730]So I've finally returned to FKK Oase. It's Monday 5:00 pm and a bit slow, but that also means I've got all the girls and the facilities to myself! I think there are about 20 girls ranging from 7's to 9's. I don't have trouble finding a girl I find attractive, and I am a very picky bastard.
I forgot how much I liked Oase's facility and amenites. I love having a relaxation room with wifi! Also beer is 5 euro today!
Beatrice from Italy first caught my eyes. She has a pretty face, tall & slim body, and nice natural tits. Our eyes meet and I say Hello, and she welcomes me. I first made sure that she does BBBJ with no extra charge. And she's up for everything including greek! I negotiate the price to traditional 150 for 30 min. We have a hot and steamy time and she gave me a great BBBJ, wrap me up, then settle down on with my dick into her ass! It's nice and tight so I squeeze and suck on her delightful tits. I switch to k9 and pump away and wanted to do mish but she doesn't like that. So I lay her on her side and plummel into her ass until I finish.
It's 6:00 pm so I went to the cafeteria and ate dinner. I think the food has gotten better since last time. I really like the varities of entrees. I made my reservation for massage, which I really liked last time, grab a beer, and settle down for recharge. I plan to do 3 more sessions tonight. I will update as I take breaks between sessions![/QUOTE]Great reports Mander.
Nice one bagging Beatrice. She is one hot looking woman with a model body. Long legs and a pert ass that you got to plunder and fuck. Well done there Sir.
Beatrice is the girl with the Auburn / reddish hair. Great body on her and she is all natural.
So cool you sodomized Beatrice.
Keep the reports coming.
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Live Report, Part Three
I was going to wait for Rogue Nations to reply but looks like he's gone and looks like there are other people who liked my report, so I'm going to go ahead and continue. If anyone have a problem, I'll request to remove my posts.
Anyways, I grab some more food, then spend time relaxing in the spa and the hot tub. Around 12:00 am, there are alot more people, but felt like girl: dude ratio went down. There are several groups of asians and middle easterners.
Anyways, I am up for another run so I sit around the porn theatre / dance area. Several girls approach me and some were rather insistent, but an assertive but gentle "nein danka" makes them back away. The porn cinema was showing a really hot girl getting railed and face-fucked. That gets me quite ready. I just need a girl like in the movie!
I've been eyeing this girl with short curly hair and pretty face. Like some girls here, she was wearing a non-see through bra and nothing on the bottom. I thought that was strange. Why would you hide your boobs while walking around flashing your twats? Anyways, that's how I met Isabella from Spain. I am in a mood for a vanilla 50 euro /30 min session and she looks disappointed. But she eventually agrees and we book a room.
In the room she opens her bra and the reason for wearing it. As expected, she has a tiny A-cup with half-developed nipples that are split into two. But she was still hot and we proceed. She asks me if what I want. I like where this is going! She proceed to give me one of the most amazing BJ with strong suction and eye contact, but no DT. She spends good time bouncing her mouth in and out of my shaft. Then she wrapps me up and settles down on me CG. Soon I have her laydown on me and pound her up. She then asks me if I want to change the position. Sure why not? Switch to K9 and I increase my tempo and slam away into her pussy while enjoying her hourglass figure. Too bad I didn't have much boob / tits to hold onto. We then switch to mish and I grab her leg and bang away to finish.
It's 1:00 am now and I need to rest and recharge if I were to have another session. I get myself coke & whiskey and settle into the resting room for a couple hours of shut-eye.
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[QUOTE=Mander;2158862] looks like there are other people who liked my report, so I'm going to go ahead and continue. If anyone have a problem, I'll request to remove my posts..[/QUOTE]I being one, excellent reports and writing skills put to good use. Keep up the good work. You are entertaining me on a boring night (I took off from hookers for a night.).
As to the details in your reports there are mixed opinions on the board about how much detail to include and whether to attach the girls name to it. Some prefer fewer details other prefer to open up the curtains for all to see. To each their own. I can tell you enjoy writing so keep the keyboard busy.
It would be nice if you would head to Dietzenbach and provide some reports like these especially if you can find Valentina.
Job well done, congrats on your Reports of Distinctions.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2158838]Great reports Mander.
Keep the reports coming.[/QUOTE]Agree.
And where have you been? Good to see you back posting.
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I thought Beatrice is ROM. Vicky, though ROM, she lives in ITA. That's the only person I know that claim to be "Italian". Nice live report by the way.
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Live Report, Part Five / Final
I woke up from my alcohole-induced sleep around 3:15 am, and before I know it, it was 3:30 am. I need to hurry if I want one last session! I make my way out from sleeping area to main area. When I came to Oase last time, the sleeping area was packed with people sleeping and snoring, but it was strange to find myself alone there.
The place is already closing up. Looks like I won't be able to afford to be choosy, and I am rather tired and not sure if I can perform one more time. I decided that my last session will be BBBJCIM. I look around the lounge area and many girls are already packing up. It's 3:35 am now. I scan the area and my eyes meet with Anita from Romania. She's a solid 8 but has too much tatoo to my liking, but I guess she will do. She's surprisingly sweet and we settle on 100 euro for 30 min CIM session. She also wants to wrap it up fast.
To the room we go and she says something like she wants to be truthful and does not want to lie about her nationality. She says some girls claim they are from Italy and what not but it's a lie. I can hardly care which country they're from as long as they are hot enough for my taste. Any ways, I lie down and she gets starting she's surprisingly good with some BLS thrown in here and there, and also licking my body as well. It took rather long, but I manage to cum and she shows her cum-drenched chin and asks me to kiss her. Errr there's reason I pay HER and not the other way, lady. She laughes it off and tells me to make sure to eat well. Yes mom. I guess that's her way to show she cares.
So ends my visit to Oase. I wash and wrap up. I really enjoy the facility and how I managed to spend 11 hours eating fucking drinking sleeping and spending time at spa hot tub and massage. At the end I have 100 euro left than I had budgetted! Total damage was about 500 euroes well spent.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2158878] And where have you been? Good to see you back posting.[/QUOTE]I live in a boring country where prostitution and clients are actively hunted down and prosecuted. I get a chance to travel overseas once in a while and try to make the best of it! .
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2158887]I thought Beatrice is ROM. Vicky, though ROM, she lives in ITA. That's the only person I know that claim to be "Italian". Nice live report by the way.[/QUOTE]Juicy and Laura used to make similar claims a few years ago. Turned out that they visit Italy now and then to visit some family there.
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[QUOTE=Mander;2158925]I live in a boring country where prostitution and clients are actively hunted down and prosecuted. I get a chance to travel overseas once in a while and try to make the best of it! .[/QUOTE]Hey, A fellow countrymen. Great Oase report. I love live reporting. This will be tough to do in Sharks.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2158929]Great Oase report. I love live reporting. This will be tough to do in Sharks.[/QUOTE]I am too lazy and forgetful to remember everything and take time to write long reports later.
Resting lounge where no girls allowed is one of the best thing about Oase, especially with WIFI access. No use letting clients get pestered to death by working girls when they just had a session. It's better to allow us to relax, sleep, and recharge so we can get ready for another session. I bring earplugs to Sharks and girls keep bugging me when I go down for a nap upstairs.
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[QUOTE=Mander;2158730]So I've finally returned to FKK Oase. It's Monday 5:00 pm and a bit slow, but that also means I've got all the girls and the facilities to myself! I think there are about 20 girls ranging from 7's to 9's. I don't have trouble finding a girl I find attractive, and I am a very picky bastard.
I forgot how much I liked Oase's facility and amenites. I love having a relaxation room with wifi! Also beer is 5 euro today!
Beatrice from Italy first caught my eyes. She has a pretty face, tall & slim body, and nice natural tits. Our eyes meet and I say Hello, and she welcomes me. I first made sure that she does BBBJ with no extra charge. And she's up for everything including greek! I negotiate the price to traditional 150 for 30 min. We have a hot and steamy time and she gave me a great BBBJ, wrap me up, then settle down on with my dick into her ass! It's nice and tight so I squeeze and suck on her delightful tits. I switch to k9 and pump away and wanted to do mish but she doesn't like that. So I lay her on her side and plummel into her ass until I finish.
It's 6:00 pm so I went to the cafeteria and ate dinner. I think the food has gotten better since last time. I really like the varities of entrees. I made my reservation for massage, which I really liked last time, grab a beer, and settle down for recharge. I plan to do 3 more sessions tonight. I will update as I take breaks between sessions![/QUOTE]150 for one hour? You mean 50 euro for 30 min right?
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[QUOTE=Mander;2158925]I live in a boring country where prostitution and clients are actively hunted down and prosecuted. [/QUOTE]Too bad you don't live in a country where even the President can shag Porn Stars and Playmates and have many details reported on mainstream TV shows, and then he is applauded by millions of "educated people" for being a lying "Moron. " That would make things much easier for you, I am sure!
By the way: Excellent reports, well delivered and you made the correct decision (imo) to go ahead and post as you wish. I don't think you will suffer any negative impact or reveal anything about yourself to the girls, because you are not a regular visitor and you'll be long gone (lost in the sauce) by the time anybody at Oase reads your posts, if, indeed, they ever even open up this forum. To quote a guy named Buckingham: "Go your own way. "
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Laura
[QUOTE=Mander;2158925]I live in a boring country where prostitution and clients are actively hunted down and prosecuted. I get a chance to travel overseas once in a while and try to make the best of it! .[/QUOTE]Well. Laura went to school in Italy for a while when she lived there. Makes her Italian quite good but not as good as Silvana's.
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Globalism: move yourself and capital from unfriendly governments
If the country you live in hunts down men for engaging in a completely normal and natural biological function between consenting adults, then it does not deserve to have us or our tax revenue. The USA squarely answers to that description.
Take your capital and disposable income and spend it where it is welcomed. Germany attracts a lot of money with food, accommodation, and money for women who also spend the money locally. By contrast the national source of that money (and their fervent need to control people and who, where and why they sleep with other people consensually) will see money flow out. Many men buy real estate and even retire in P2 P friendly countries.
As the zeitgeist of the times is globalism and efficiency, let us as individuals choose our tax jurisdiction (just as companies do), where we live and who, where and why we sleep with other people consensually and give the repressive forces the middle finger with cold, hard cash and investment. Clearly they hate the population they claim to govern.
Lately the USA has ceased to have a representative democracy except for the priesthood who (behind closed doors) are in a bidding war for congress votes. A far better system would be a public electronic market place for a given vote so everyone could play, grass roots organisations could bid. There would be no more illusion about what the Republic truly is as of 2018 as opposed to what we would like or pretending otherwise. If they crap on about efficient markets, let's take that all the way, no selectively for inner circle of crony capitalism and their lobbyists and lawyer footmen and butlers.
Germany welcomes all peaceful and productive men and women who want to sleep together on such terms (if any) they choose. FKK clubs are a pleasant, clean place to do so without pimps, police corruption or any of the other crap their repressive system wholly fails at. The congressmen who makes these insane laws in repressive countries are usually the biggest hypocrites of all.
May everyone have strong desire and erection to old age and death and beautiful women to express our lust for life and joy. The latter is what life is about.
Just say no. Take your money, tax, brains and energy and go where life and free choice is celebrated, not destroyed.
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One more thought
As most women compete with each other for looks and men and are generally bitchy to each other, why are they all against P2 P and what their sisters get up to?
Essentially it is economics of pussy, forcing men to oversubscribe on a fixed cost basis rather than buying on the spot market. This artificial scarcity is essentially a union to subsidise the cost of their brood and protection against their shelf life. It also ties into a sort of economic enslavement (ie geographic taxes) enabled by reproductive choices that does not work where men are fancy and footloose. Single mothers, a huge and fast growing demographic, represent a market failure of this flawed system.
The repressive laws do not just appear out of nowhere. Follow the money. It is about exploiting men and our biological imperative. Pussy scarcity is the indirect mechanism to restricted movement and thus taxation. Just say no.
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Phallus. I agree with the spirit of what you wrote. The thing is, in the United States, if you are willing to pay 300 $ USD and join *** and P411 and you stick to over priced Indies, the chances of being caught and prosecuted are next to nothing. If you stay away from street walkers and you do not shop for pussy using BackPage etc. You can do this forever without being caught. This is because, in the USA, especially in areas with high violent crime, there is often pressure to do something about crime in general. The authorities are powerless to stop the opiate abuse problem which claims more deaths of teenagers than auto accidents. They are powerless to stop the gang drug wars and car jackings and numerous break-ins and armed robberies. The prosecuting attorney is an elected position and the only way to get elected is to have a high rate of successful prosecutions. We hobbyists are cannon fodder for these guys. When you are powerless to stop crime what do you do? You have a sting operation using a fake BP add and at least you can tell the public you are locking up dangerous criminals and fighting trafficking (whatever that is).
Also, the abolitionists are most often left-wing militant man-hating feminists. These are the ugly women that nobody wanted to fuck. They were often left home and weren't asked to prom and homecoming and they spent most Saturday nights brooding with no suitor. They love to spread and gobble up stories about under aged teens being trafficked and they believe that the movie Taken was a documentary on prostitution. No one in their right minds would willingly prostitute themselves for money. These feminists will tell you that there must be a heterosexual white male behind all this. The religious right is another matter. Nobody listens to them anymore. They are laughed at mostly. No, now a days it is the PC left that is leading the charge against prostitution and they are dangerous.
BTW. Has your company put you through mandatory diversity training lately and indoctrinated you about the "unconscious bias. " This is the supposed reason why women are not getting to top positions in corporations. You see it has nothing to do with all the data that indicates single women make more money but when women marry and become pregnant and have families many will make a conscious decision to stay home with children or work flex hours etc. , which will cost them to make less money. The opposite is true for men. Single men will earn enough to continue having fun but when they get married and have kids they will work like animals to pay for them. Try to use this reasoning and see how you are shot down by the leftists. It is the same thought process.
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An interesting and thought provoking conversation guys regarding the availability of Pay4 Play (or lack of same) in the USA. I would contribute but we risk hijacking the Oase thread which would be wrong. I encourage you to continue the conversation in the Lounge and Chat area. Not an admonishment from me but rather a simple suggestion. Keep up with the posts.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2159296]Phallus. I agree with the spirit of what you wrote. The thing is, in the United States, if you are willing to pay 300 $ USD and join *** and P411 and you stick to over priced Indies, the chances of being caught and prosecuted are next to nothing. If you stay away from street walkers and you do not shop for pussy using BackPage etc. You can do this forever without being caught..[/QUOTE]As a very frequent partaker here I can agree with all of the above. P411 is a screening site and great, no forums just a online shopping mall. I suggest anyone in the US who does partake with the new laws just passed (will be challenged for years) consider joining. The scene here potentially will change as boards I will not mention have already closed in the last week or altered their forums.
Several girls I know now and over the last 16 years have FBI agents as clients, APD officers, members of the TX Legislature, lawyers in the attorney generals office the list goes on. No different in the other cities. Of all the major legal cases here they pop them on taxes ( or trafficking) usually as they say ' You can do anything in America as long as you pay Uncle Sam'.
Varies state to state but HungryStud is right almost next to impossible to get popped if you do not use backpage or walk the street, backpage will be subject to new laws too. In general LE does not care as long as all participants are of age, no ' side substance business' conducted during sessions and most of all if the online community thrives it keeps the cops from having to patrol the streets where other elements pollute the scene. Of course there is an occasional few busts prior to election season usually initiated by Republican AGs but the cases get dropped and they always pop the backpage pimped girls for the most part.
Sorry Der Auslander, just saw your comment about going to the lounge...
Guess back to your regularly scheduled Oase programming.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2158975]150 for one hour? You mean 50 euro for 30 min right?[/QUOTE]Well I think it has been a market standard to add 100 euro for anal sex, so I considered 150 for 30 min session with anal sex a norm.
Yeah you can pay around $300/ year to join P411, other review sites, and etc to find girls that can end up as girls with photos of swimsuit model but in actual 40 years old meth heads. The decent ones often command price of $500 to $1000/ HR and I'm not even including optional services such as anal.
Anyways I think it was the best use of 14 hour layover at FRA airport. I was completely drained and slept right through the 8 hour flight and came home fully satisfied. I hope to get an another chance to travel overseas soon. I don’t think there is anywhere in the world on the par with FKK Oase in terms of value and quality. I hope to be able to visit FKK GT at Dusseldorf next.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2159146]No boundaries. It's your decision if you want to take he risk of being identified by girls or management.[/QUOTE]I didn't think I wrote anything disrespectful to the girls or the establishment. The only angle I might concern would be identifying girls who provide BBBJ.
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[QUOTE=Mander;2159620]I didn't think I wrote anything disrespectful to the girls or the establishment. The only angle I might concern would be identifying girls who provide BBBJ.[/QUOTE]But all the girls do BBBJ mostly without extra in a 1 hour session, they are prostitutes and sucked several thousand dicks one more or less will change what for them.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2155983]I hope there will still be some nice girls but this year 01 April is protestan easter (in Germany) and 08 April is Orthodox easter (In romania) so many girls will combine these holidays [/QUOTE]First of all: It is catholic Easter as well on April 1st. Many girls still present this week, most are taking next week off if they do at all.
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Celebrate FKK
This does belong in the lounge or at the FKK with a few fun guys, a nice cocktail in hand while appreciatively watching beautiful naked women frolicking around, fully consensually. And they LOVE the male attention.
Women get cranky when they are ugly and become invisible to men. That describes the bull dyke politically correct types (and we all know what Stalin did did to the incorrect and where this thinking. Or cliche spouting. Leads to). No, I have not had one of the lectures about alleged male entitlement and the pursuit of a genderless, no flirt and no fun society that is their goal. What is forgotten is that men are following a hardwired biological imperative. Evolution has selected those who enjoy sex and explains the relative size of our appendages to other species. No amount of rehashed PC cliches can remove this basic fact. The PC types cannot bear the idea that not only they are there completely on their own will, many women enjoy sex, even working girls, and that many friendships are formed that are very honest. The girls like to compete for male attention and we like giving them that recognition, admiration and money. They get a dopamine rush.
Oase is indeed lovely. Summer swimming and BJ by a pretty girl in public. Winter indoors with gluwein. May all of you take advantage of WOW air, Eurowings and Norwegian Express from the USA, plus some Bose noise cancelling headphones and have lots of joy and big smile from ear to ear, being the main outcome life should create. We are not slaves. Enjoy pretty women and Germany's thoroughly civilised society, organic good value food, and clean, good value facilities.
America can longer supply at a reasonable price even the most basic needs, clean, wholesome food, health and fun. I'm taking my company, its staff and capital to where it is appreciated and life making love to gorgeous women can be lived out without shame or fear.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2159869]Many girls still present this week, most are taking next week off if they do at all.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I visited on Easter 2016 and Sharks was slammed the Saturday before Orthodox Easter and GT was packed on Orthodox Easter Sunday. The only club that was bad that year was Acapulco, but I was there at 9 pm on Easter Sunday.
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The Oase VIP suite
Anyone know how much it is to stay in the overnight accommodation? Might have an upcoming trip and I normally stay in downtown Frankfurt which means a cab back for 50 e and wondered if the overnight stay in the club was really expensive? I also wondered if having the room allowed you to take the girls back there instead of to the normal rooms. Nice touch if you find a girl you want 2 hours with.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2160136]Anyone know how much it is to stay in the overnight accommodation? Might have an upcoming trip and I normally stay in downtown Frankfurt which means a cab back for 50 e and wondered if the overnight stay in the club was really expensive? I also wondered if having the room allowed you to take the girls back there instead of to the normal rooms. Nice touch if you find a girl you want 2 hours with.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Normal price is 1,000 Euros per night. And, no that does not include entry.
Yes, you can take girls back to the room. The rooms are very nice, but definitely not worth their usual price.
If you are doing a special bachelor party thing and splitting cost with 4 guys, then maybe -- no, not even worth it in that case.
If your last name is Gates, Bezos, or Musk, then maybe worth it for you.
I believe they offer a special reduced price one night a week, but my memory is fuzzy on that.
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Over and out!
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2160138]Normal price is $1,000 per night. And, no that does not include entry.
Yes, you can take girls back to the room. The rooms are very nice, but definitely not worth their usual price.
If you are doing a special bachelor party thing and splitting cost with 4 guys, then maybe -- no, not even worth it in that case.
If your last name is Gates, Bezos, or Musk, then maybe worth it for you.
I believe they offer a special reduced price one night a week, but my memory is fuzzy on that.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for the immediate response! No matter how nice the rooms are, as my surname doesn't appear in that list (or anything like it) I'm afraid this means I'll be skipping! I could hire a fleet of cabs and stay 5* in Frankfurt for that price! Crazy policy. I don't get why they don't put it up there for say 250 euros or 300. Might get tempting and be used.
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Was in Oase today.
I'll sum it up in two words; perfect night.
I dunno if it was just my luck, but I had sessions with 6 girls, not even a single session was a miss, all the girls were motivated and delivered their service with a smile with no BS.
Zero changes post-July. Zero upselling with the BJ. Public BJ was the norm. After my 3rd session I was convinced no need to ask for the BJ during the interview, and yes the latter sessions were by default as it always has.
It's obvious the management do care about customer satisfaction, without exploiting or breaching the girls rights, that's how the sex industry should always be.
Only 3 girls bugged me with their persistant need for a room, which for Oase is a fair number.
I had nothing to complain about, I'm sure if Oase keeps with this momentum it will reclaim its position as the king of FKK in Frankfurt, and I hope so, GG Oase.
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Overnight options
Well, you can sleep in one of the rooms till about 4 am when they boot you out. 20-30 refreshing minute walk to the Friedrichsdorf train station (S5 line) and that trains start running from about 4. 38 am on the latest timetable most days for a few euros to Frankfurt. The hotels around Friedrichsdorf can get very price opportunistic for last minute stuff, so book ahead. The town is very nice with a good breakfast and coffee.
It's a nice walk along a road from Friedrichsdorf to the club with apple tree orchards I've enjoyed a bite of (and the forbidden apple further along). This is Germany with fast, cheap and clean trains that run regularly.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2160142] I don't get why they don't put it up there for say 250 euros or 300. Might get tempting and be used.[/QUOTE]Guess they don't see it as a cheap overnight hotel alternative but as a party room for VIP guests who have enough cash to spend on various girls and alcohol.
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Oase I.
So, I finally went to the mythical Oase! I can't believe it took me so long. Anyway, I took the train to Bad Homburg from Frankfurt and then a 20 euros cab ride to Oase. I got there around 9 pm and the first thing I noticed was it is smaller than it seems from the website photos and the second was the sheer number of cars parked outside. I knew it would be packed and it was. I paid 70 euros entry and got given a robe and towels and headed down to the changing rooms. I didn't like this constant having to go up and down stairs though. Showers were good. Dressing rooms average. I was tired when I got there after a day of walking around Frankfurt and once I'd put my valuables in the little metal lockers by the bar (good!) I was having trouble tying the wristband so a young girl (Romanian, of course- all the girls I went with were Romanian except one), helped me to fasten it without being asked and in the dim lighting of the lounge she looked attractive (she had a prettyish face- I couldn't quite identify why she looked familiar but as I type this I realise she looked like a pornstar from the GGG series) and black hair and brown eyes. She was wearing a crop top with her tits hanging out from beneath and nothing underneath so I found my hands instinctively grabbing her bare but and her ass was nice and toned. We started talking and I found myself agreeing to go to a room with her (my dick was hard already!) after I showered. So after showering and popping half a V, I went back up to find her sitting on one of the sofas for me. I noticed immediately a high number of girls I found attractive immediately -- the quality meter was high with lots of 8, 9's and even a couple of 10's (see later). So it doesn't make logical sense why I went with a girl who when I saw her in the room was a 6/7 body wise although her face was pretty (but not beautiful). We had agreed an hour session for 100. To be fair she kept her side of the bargain and did what I wanted but the kissing was only intermittent and she stopped and talked a lot suggesting XYZ. But I was horny and came after fucking her in mish following cowgirl and doggy. She wanted to stay in the room till the hour was up but I wasn't feeling a great connection and decided to leave after 30 minutes though I paid her for the full hour as it was my decision to leave. Mira, Romanian, brunette, 23. About 160 cm. Face / Body / Performance 7/6/7. Cost 100. Repeat? No.
I then showered and went to the restaurant and whirlpool rooms. The whirlpool is great! Food was decent but nothing special and no way near that of some other FKKS like Palace or Sakura or Paradise or Harmony. I did like the made to order pizzeria though. Nice touch! While I was eating I noticed a girl who looked like a model and I was blown away. She was a tall leggy brunette with a sharpish face and reminded me of a young Maria Callas. She was wearing just white lace hot pants shaped liked a V. Her body was perfect. I immediately went up to her and asked if she would like to join me. She was nice but said she was waiting to eat pizza with her friend. I said OK I'd like to see you later and she agreed. I saw her friend come soon after and they indeed had pizza!
After eating I briefly went to the outside area but it was slightly chilly so I came back in. I went upstairs to the main lounge and bar area and saw so many hotties it was impossible to decide. I sat on a sofa drinking my coffee when I was approached by a girl whose face was strikingly attractive. She was another dark haired girl with straight black hair and petite and slim. She had some tattoos including a large tattoo of a map of Romania on her left arm and shoulder. She also had a little letter M on her clavicle. What struck me about her was her very attractive face and her slightly unusual look and her eyes. Mesmerising. She was quite dark and I guess she must be a Roma as she was Romanian too although I think she said from the Moldovan part. Above all she was super coquettish and that quality drew me to her more than anything else. She had that 'je ne sais quoi' which some girls have and its nothing to do with looks but personality and an aura. She had it in spades. She was flirting with me whilst gazing at me with her eyes intensely from what I recall very dark amber / brown eyes. Mesmerising and I was flirting back and I could feel the electricity between us. So I had my hands around her tiny waist instinctively and we talked in whispers as our faces were just centimetres apart. I asked her my standard questions and what I could do in the room when she surprised me by saying 'but I don't kiss' but the way she said it didn't make me think 'oh no! What a deal breaker!' We kept on teasing and flirting with each other when suddenly she French kissed me on the couch (I had pulled her down gently as we flirted) as she said 'but I don't kiss' and laughed. So off to the room I went with this little devilish angel. In the room she was dynamite. Though I had just come, she had me hard as hell in no time just with her kisses and as I peeled her panties off (all she was wearing) she bent over and let me tongue her ass. She then knelt down and sucked me as I sat on the armchair in the room we hadn't even gotten to the bed yet! Her blowjob skills were incredible one of the best BJs I've ever had and she commented on how hard I was. She deep throated like a pornstar. Then on to the bed for the remaining 30 minutes or so which were one of the best sessions but I wasn't able to come which disappointed her though she tried everything. We did all the positions and in doggy she was so wet her pussy began to fart. Her fucked the shit out of her but the problem with V is it does stop you coming so soon again. The 69 was also memorable. I pleaded with her to extend to an hour and offered her more money but she said she was prebooked with a regular client and had to go with him but that she would go with me again after she had been with him. I said okay. So, who is this amazing girl? Rina, 22, dark brunette, slim petite Romanian about 165 cm. Cost: 50? 8/8/10. Repeat? Definitely!
Whilst going to the restaurant on the way I had seen another 10. A tall leggy blonde this time and I spoke to her but she was quite rude to me and said something in Russian and she ignored me later too in the night but I don't know why. I think it might have been when I asked her where she was from and mentioned Romania that she didn't like it. I don't know. A pity as she was one of two or 3 10's. Her name if I recall was Tanya. That was my main regret of the night.
As I was eating I'the spotted a girl walk passed me whom I'the also noticed in the lounge for her beautiful face. She was another brunette and looked Middle Eastern and when I approached her after spending some time in the whirlpool she came and sat next to me and we talked. I think her name was Yohanna or Jiwana or something and she was of Iraqi and Kurdish origin but grew up in Germany. Really nice girl and her face was stunning. She reminded me of a girl I used to work with and had the hots for but who was married! We went to the room and had an excellent session with her in the room with her providing whatever wanted. Her pussy tasted amazing and was super tight and hot. I finally came whilst wanking as she sat on my face with her curvy Arabic ass. Her kisses were soft and romantic and she was very sexy and feminine although she also could talk dirty when she wanted to and spat in my mouth. Had some intense fucking with her talking dirty in German! Great session and would definitely repeat. Jiwana, Iraqi / Kurd, 8. 5/8/8. Cost: 100 Repeat? Yes.
I was drained and then went for some more food and to the jacuzzi and was thinking of calling it a night but after refreshing myself I went back up and noticed the two 10's were not available. So I then saw a girl with dark hair again (it was a night for brunettes!) straight long dark hair and in the lighting a face which I really found appealing, another striking face especially her eyes again I've always been a sucker for pretty faces so I got talking with her and we got on well and ended up in the room! Andrea, very pretty face body not so toned in the light of the room and if I'the seen her in natural light would not have gone with her probably. A good session but her kissing was only LFK. Andrea Romanian see. 165 cm, 24 years old brunette, 100 . Repeat? 50-50.8/6/7.
Whilst I was negotiating with Andrea I had gone to the ATM to get some more money and on the way back had spotted the first 10 again and so gone to her at the bar where she was with another man. I saw my chance as he wasn't talking to her and I called her over and said I had been looking for her all night. She apologised and said she was with a guy waiting for another girl for a threesome but she would ask if he minded if she went with me first. He said it was okay and I said OK but have to go with this girl first I'll be back in 30 minutes and I was.
So finally the highlight of an amazing evening! Mady, Romanian, 175 cm tall without shoes, 27, perfect figure 10 body slim and gazelle like but with enhanced tits. She said they were too small which is why she got them enlarged to a see cup maybe. I am not a fan of fake tits but hers were perfect. Ex-Globe and ex Rouge and ex History all in Switzerland. Her face was classically model like too as I've said too. Really, physically she was perfect. Her body was as good as if not better than the famous Marie's. We initially agreed for 30 minutes as she had to meet her friend but our session in the room was incredible and I extended to an hour. I told her I would not be able to come as I'the popped twice already but this was one of the best sessions I can remember for a long time and it was made perfect by the glass mirrors on the celling that showed this perfect girl naked as she sucked me and as we fucked in multiple positions. She kissed and licked me with passion, and her blowjobs were perfection. Things became super intense after I made her come with pussy eating she said her first orgasm in 3 months! And we fucked like on a wedding night. The doggy style session was memorable and I think she came at least once more going by her breathing and noises. Then I switched to missionary in another effort to come and I could feel myself on the edge but the time was running out. Finally, in another about of 69 I came and she gobbled up my sperm before emptying it into a tissue. WE kissed and cuddled a bit and then I left the room too exhausted but also on a high. Mady, Romanian, 27,9/10/10 . Cost: 200. Time 1 hour. Repeat? Definitely! Paid her and then showered and took the cab to my hotel. Her body is swimming before my eyes as I type this in Starbucks!
Total cost: 550 euros. 5 girls. None of the girls refused services I asked for and I didn't notice any changes although a couple would only do some things in an hour session.
Something tells me I might be visiting Oase again.
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At Sybarite: Idk Rina, Sounds great, maybe I will find her on my next visit. Are you sure about the name?
Mady: Yes she is good looking. I'm not into fake tits so she's not a 9 or 10 for me. And for everybody who wants to follow the good report and book her: Don't expect much if you're not willing to invest significantly more than 50€ as S. Did. My 50€ session with her months ago was OK, not more.
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Nice report, Mr Sybarite.
Just some thoughts, not in anyway meant to be critical:
-- At the start of your report, you mention getting hard already by just chatting to this girl (Mira). Then you went down and swallowed some Viagra. Just a thought: if you were already hard just talking with a girl, maybe you didn't really need (at that point) any V? Maybe you would have done better to swallow the V later, if at all? Many of us started with Viagra, but then switched to the more "sympatisch" Ciallis. Just the smallest amount of that C, well it gives me some wood, but still allows the juices to flow, you can cum. Of course, this might vary from person to person. Just my own experience reported.
-- Deep in your report, you mention going to an ATM, implying by context within the sentence (s) that you did not leave the club, but visited such an ATM within Oase. Since when have they installed such a device within the club? I was last there in early Feb, and did not see it.
-- Madi: very nice looking, but a 10? Really? Just shows how subjective and personal beauty ratings can be. They vary from eye to eye. I like Madi's look, but I would never go 10, not even 9. But that is just me.
Thanks again for your great report. I'm sure you'll be back to Oase. Wtf took you so long? :)
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Closest ATM should be Taunus Sparkasse Zweigstelle at Ober Erlenbach. Oase usually have a guy able to drive you there if you have to go to get money from the ATM and you lack a car yourself. Well, at least in case they haven't installed an ATM of their own.
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Public Action.
Is public intimacy (BJ / Sex) allowed here? I want to visit palace / Oase / Mainhattan where I can have a session at the same time watch other people doing it. Please suggest me an FKK in Frankfurt where mongers are usually more public in their action.
TIA.
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There is Sparkasse and Volksbank with ATMs in Ober-Erlenbach. Oase doesn't have an ATM, you can get cash at the reception with your CC.
Mady, her she is.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2160350]So, I finally went to the mythical Oase! I can't believe it took me so long. Something tells me I might be visiting Oase again.[/QUOTE]So have the old days of glory come back to OASE? Till sometime back there was a lot of upselling for kissing? For Pussy Licking etc. Is it still prevalent? Or in the basic half an hour session girls do Kiss? Are the girls still Sharky?
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2160704]So have the old days of glory come back to OASE? Till sometime back there was a lot of upselling for kissing? For Pussy Licking etc. Is it still prevalent? Or in the basic half an hour session girls do Kiss? Are the girls still Sharky?[/QUOTE]No more those glory old days. There will be upselling if you did not talk about price and time before going to room. 30 min /50 e is basically fuck and suck. However, if you know the girls, good service include DFK can be had.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2160827]No more those glory old days. There will be upselling if you did not talk about price and time before going to room. 30 min /50 e is basically fuck and suck. However, if you know the girls, good service include DFK can be had.[/QUOTE]That is precisely the reason why I skipped Oase in my last visit to Germany. I mean since I am not a frequent visitor I don't know any girls. Who be ready to kiss for free! :( Gosh! Miss those days in Oase! It has better optics but only worthwhile If someone is willing to spend more money on one girl!
is it not a miniature version of Palace ?
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2160844]That is precisely the reason why I skipped Oase in my last visit to Germany. I mean since I am not a frequent visitor I don't know any girls. Who be ready to kiss for free! :( Gosh! Miss those days in Oase! It has better optics but only worthwhile If someone is willing to spend more money on one girl!
is it not a miniature version of Palace ?[/QUOTE]I am not a good source of info for 50 euro rooms as they only account for one-third of my rooms, the first room of the day. I've been 50-50 for those half hour rooms. However, for 1 hour-100 euro rooms, Oase provided superb quality during my recent visits.
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Just some thoughts on my Oase visit to answer some comments people have made on my report:
-There is an ATM behind reception. You have to give them your ID and card and the lady at reception then gives you the money but with a 10% charge.
-I don't like fake tits either and could dock 0.5 from Mady if I was being hypercritical.
- I took the V in the changing room first before meeting Rina (it could also have been Mina and I misheard but my description was accurate). I haven't ever tried Ciallis.
- Only one girl said she doesn't kiss and paying her extra didn't work. The other girls all were willing to kiss in a 30 minute session for 50. Some would only do some other things only in an 100 session for an hour but that works out the same so I didn't mind.
-Mady charged 50 for CIM which is standard but our original deal was 150 for 60 minutes as I didn't think I would do CIM.
- I used to go to Palace all the time which is why I didn't see the need to go to another club; back then Palace had Saskia and Martha and Sandra the Red Head and Natascha der Rumanien and Indira etc. Etc.
-I will go to Oase much more now. I liked the line up and service levels a lot.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2160844]That is precisely the reason why I skipped Oase in my last visit to Germany. I mean since I am not a frequent visitor I don't know any girls. Who be ready to kiss for free! :( Gosh! Miss those days in Oase! It has better optics but only worthwhile If someone is willing to spend more money on one girl!
is it not a miniature version of Palace ?[/QUOTE]It's a mini version of Sharks for experienced mongers. Better optics percentage wise. Service is a matter of experience. Many girls with great optics and great service. Less crowded than Sharks. Better lineup than Palace, quantitative and qualitative.
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Oase favorites
Gents. I will be visiting Oase after almost 6 months, and wondering if one of my old favorites is still there: May from Philippines, a young thin girl, very GFE. Is she still there? Any other Asian GFE girls to try in Oase?
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[QUOTE=NF4591;2160902]Gents. I will be visiting Oase after almost 6 months, and wondering if one of my old favorites is still there: May from Philippines, a young thin girl, very GFE. Is she still there? Any other Asian GFE girls to try in Oase?[/QUOTE]May quit the job.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2160863]Just some thoughts on my Oase visit to answer some comments people have made on my report:
-There is an ATM behind reception. You have to give them your ID and card and the lady at reception then gives you the money but with a 10% charge..[/QUOTE]That ain't no ATM, my friend, that is a credit card scam, where the reception rips you off for 10% commission! ATM = Automatic Transaction Machine, where you yourself insert your card, tap in a pin number (that only you know) and out comes the amount of cash you enter. There is not a 10% commission. When I get my cash, frequently from ATMs (Geldautomat) in, for example, the Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof (there are several located throughout the building, including underground areas), I only get charged a 2. 5 Euro fee, even on large amounts of several hundred Euros.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2160697]There is Sparkasse and Volksbank with ATMs in Ober-Erlenbach. Oase doesn't have an ATM, you can get cash at the reception with your CC.
Mady, her she is.[/QUOTE]She has terrible boob job. Doubt I would be able to fuck her with tits like that.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2160863]-Mady charged 50 for CIM which is standard but our original deal was 150 for 60 minutes as I didn't think I would do CIM.[/QUOTE]You can pay whatever you want, but just a reminder to everyone that regular club price at Oase is 100 E /60. And that normally includes as much DFK / BJ / DATY / CFS as you want. Even with girls prettier than Madi. But to each his own.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2160930]That ain't no ATM, my friend, that is a credit card scam, where the reception rips you off for 10% commission! ATM = Automatic Transaction Machine, where you yourself insert your card, tap in a pin number (that only you know) and out comes the amount of cash you enter. There is not a 10% commission. When I get my cash, frequently from ATMs (Geldautomat) in, for example, the Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof (there are several located throughout the building, including underground areas), I only get charged a 2. 5 Euro fee, even on large amounts of several hundred Euros.[/QUOTE]It's not a scam, of course. You are not forced to use your credit card and they are not hiding the fact that they will charge 10% on top or are they?
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No ATM at Oase
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2161245]It's not a scam, of course. You are not forced to use your credit card and they are not hiding the fact that they will charge 10% on top or are they?[/QUOTE]True. I believe Ortos is just making his point clear that there is NO ATM at Oase and that there is a charge of 10% commission when using your credit card in the club. Thus no Oase regulars are making use of that option.
The ATM at Taunus Sparkasse at Ober Erlenbach is your best friend when visiting Oase (around 2 km away). There are also ATMs in BHH, Friedrichsdorf and Bad Homburg.
Best regards,
on behalf of Bad Homburg / Friedrichsdorf Hotel and Tourism Board
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2161245]It's not a scam, of course. You are not forced to use your credit card and they are not hiding the fact that they will charge 10% on top or are they?[/QUOTE]Quite right, thanks for correcting me: It's no scam, just a rip-off...or, if you prefer, an excessive commission designed to take advantage of those who do not plan properly before they visit or are just clueless or desperate.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2160863]Just some thoughts on my Oase visit to answer some comments people have made on my report:
-There is an ATM behind reception. You have to give them your ID and card and the lady at reception then gives you the money but with a 10% charge.
-I don't like fake tits either and could dock 0.5 from Mady if I was being hypercritical.
- I took the V in the changing room first before meeting Rina (it could also have been Mina and I misheard but my description was accurate). I haven't ever tried Ciallis.
- Only one girl said she doesn't kiss and paying her extra didn't work. The other girls all were willing to kiss in a 30 minute session for 50. Some would only do some other things only in an 100 session for an hour but that works out the same so I didn't mind.
-Mady charged 50 for CIM which is standard but our original deal was 150 for 60 minutes as I didn't think I would do CIM.
- I used to go to Palace all the time which is why I didn't see the need to go to another club; back then Palace had Saskia and Martha and Sandra the Red Head and Natascha der Rumanien and Indira etc. Etc.
-I will go to Oase much more now. I liked the line up and service levels a lot.[/QUOTE]Obviously it can't be worse than palace but oase is also not a good club for the ratio cost / service.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2161269]Quite right, thanks for correcting me: It's no scam, just a rip-off...or, if you prefer, an excessive commission designed to take advantage of those who do not plan properly before they visit or are just clueless or desperate.[/QUOTE]Why would OASE carry the costs that come with such a transaction for free plus the fact that they have to account for money that is not theirs but will be spent on the girls?
I assume they do it with their credit card terminal on which you can also pay your entry fee in case you don't want to pay cash, right? In that case they must be compensate for the fuzz coming with it. Not a rip-off, either unless they have a real ATM from the bank there, which they don't in my opinion.
If it is a purchase and not a withdrawal, other costs apply.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2161406]I assume they do it with their credit card terminal on which you can also pay your entry fee in case you don't want to pay cash, right?[/QUOTE]Correct. Same terminal.
I had the misfortune once to realise only after arriving that I had hidden my cash in another trousers that I had left in the hotel. So I asked to use my credit card for the entrance fee and for 200 euros.
I asked to put the charges together as I wanted to minimise the appearance of such transactions in my credit card bill.The receptionist insisted that there be 2 separate transactions although the transactions were done on the same terminal. Couldn't understand why, but the receptionist said that 'it was the rule'.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2161406]Why would OASE carry the costs that come with such a transaction for free plus the fact that they have to account for money that is not theirs but will be spent on the girls?[/QUOTE]Perhaps a better question to ask (in my opinion): Why would Oase NOT put in an ATM, like in Sharks and World? I see their long-standing policy of 10% commission as exorbitant and non-customer-friendly. That is my only point.
I would add: I have never personally used the service of getting cash at the reception desk, but I've seen the look of shock on the faces of those poor sods that have been forced by circumstance to use their credit cards for cash. Those looks alone speak volumes to me.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2161518]Perhaps a better question to ask (in my opinion): Why would Oase NOT put in an ATM, like in Sharks and World? I see their long-standing policy of 10% commission as exorbitant and non-customer-friendly. That is my only point.[/QUOTE]The ATM at World is a regular Volksbank ATM with the usual charges (or no charges). Mainhattan has an ATM, the charges were around 5 EUR. Palace had their "own" ATM, filled and managed by Palace, charges were quite high. They switched to another ATM, not managed by the club, I don't know what the charges are. So my advice:
Oase: Use the ATM from Volksbank or Sparkasse in Ober-Erlenbach.
Palace: There is an ATM close to Commerzbank, use that one.
Mainhattan: No idea where the next ATM is, but charges are not too high so in an emergency, use the ATM there.
World: Use the ATM at the club.
In General: Just pack more cash than you think you need, just in case, there might be a girl or two you want, so don't run out of cash.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2161500]Correct. Same terminal.
I had the misfortune once to realise only after arriving that I had hidden my cash in another trousers that I had left in the hotel. So I asked to use my credit card for the entrance fee and for 200 euros.
I asked to put the charges together as I wanted to minimise the appearance of such transactions in my credit card bill.The receptionist insisted that there be 2 separate transactions although the transactions were done on the same terminal. Couldn't understand why, but the receptionist said that 'it was the rule'.[/QUOTE]A very logical rule. The entry can be paid with the card and no fee on top of the charges. A cash withdrawal so to speak is a different purchase (or none for that matter) and therefore needs to be accounted for in an entirely different way. I am the first to call BS if I see or smell it but this is super standard procedure and TBH 10% is not steep for it.
[quote]Perhaps a better question to ask (in my opinion): Why would Oase NOT put in an ATM, like in Sharks and World? I see their long-standing policy of 10% commission as exorbitant and non-customer-friendly. That is my only point. [/quote]
I don't know why exactly but there might be hurdles to jump.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2160870]It's a mini version of Sharks for experienced mongers. Better optics percentage wise. Service is a matter of experience. Many girls with great optics and great service. Less crowded than Sharks. Better lineup than Palace, quantitative and qualitative.[/QUOTE]OASE Regulars will say OASE is better and Sharks Loyals will say Sharks is better :), but someone who is ready to try both, you are saying OASE has better optics and choice of girls than Sharks? And OASE tends to be less crowded than Sharks? Why do you say so?
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2161550]I don't know why exactly but there might be hurdles to jump.[/QUOTE]Indeed, installing a ATM in any location has a number of contractual and regulatory hurdles, not only reputation (regardless that other clubs do have ATMs located in situ) to navigate before the machine can be in place. It may just not be good business.
Some may recall it took a long time before Oase has gambling machines on site whereas clubs like Palace, World, Mainhattan and Sharks had the gambling machines available for a long prior.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2161500]Correct. Same terminal.
I had the misfortune once to realise only after arriving that I had hidden my cash in another trousers that I had left in the hotel. So I asked to use my credit card for the entrance fee and for 200 euros.
I asked to put the charges together as I wanted to minimise the appearance of such transactions in my credit card bill.The receptionist insisted that there be 2 separate transactions although the transactions were done on the same terminal. Couldn't understand why, but the receptionist said that 'it was the rule'.[/QUOTE]As Massimo Potente has elaborated, the accounting for an entry fee payment as you are paying for a service differs for a cash withdrawal is the extraction of cash which is classified alternately, hence the two different transactions.
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Melissa ro
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2161505]Marquis de Sade,
The next time you are in Oase, try the MILF Thai Kim. She does this professionally in a shop when she is not in Oase, so she is very good. For a good optifuck when being oil-massaged, try the Romanian Kim (Claudia/Aida) - but she will try to upsell for this. (Thai Kim does not upsell, included in stahdard price).[/QUOTE]Slender Melissa ro at Oase also gives an amazingly strong massage inclusive in her half hourly rate. Recommended.
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Catherine / Kathryn Bul
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154852] I cannot take my eyes off the tallest WG I've ever seen who is just stunning. Long flowing dark / red hair, high cheek bones, slim, bee cups, I go say Hi immediately to Kathryn / Katelyn / Katherine? Bulgarian. Some tattoos (not intrusive), big lips, amazing green eyes. With the exception of Melissa (Scandalo Malaga, Spanish club for those of you who also frequent Spain) this tall beauty is possibly the most striking woman I've seen in all my years of mongering. I'd reported no 9's or 10's in Oceans, a couple of 9's in Sharks the previous night but no 10. For me, this woman was a 10 from the moment I saw her. Melissa is facially the most attractive WG I've ever seen / sessioned with (she still works in Scandalo) but the overall impact of this tall stunner was instant and I was taking her to the room before I'd even got a drink. I didn't want to "miss out" if she was one of those girls who gets booked for hours on end.
Kathryn was dominant in the room.
Kathryn smiles at me in a "you're full of shit. You said we'd have a long time in the room". This is entirely true. It was the intelligence and personality of Rosa which won the battle but I leave Germany with only one regret. That I didn't spend more time with Kathryn the Great.[/QUOTE]Indeed, Catherine / Kathryn Bul is one stunning woman. She is tall, auburn hair and has a firm body. I have had my hands all over body and man it feels good to touch and get intimate with. She is one cool cucumber and is confident in her approach.
As Payforit says she is dominant in the room and will fuck you back rather than you fuck her. A delightful turnaround to being the empty vessel for filling up, she is coaxing and making you spill your seed since she want it so bad.
I always stop and watch her go by as she is so stunning. Makes me get wood (you know, like mahogany) and want to go back to Oase to see her again.
Yeah it was snowy that night.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2161571]OASE Regulars will say OASE is better and Sharks Loyals will say Sharks is better :), but someone who is ready to try both, you are saying OASE has better optics and choice of girls than Sharks? And OASE tends to be less crowded than Sharks? Why do you say so?[/QUOTE]I have done both Oase and Sharks and the tendency is towards Oase. Each weekend in recent times I am in the club I see more and more of the brand name Sharks house guests at Oase and not at Sharks. Maybe that is a bad thing to follow the regular house guests, but I write the post and you decide.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2161596]I have done both Oase and Sharks and the tendency is towards Oase. Each weekend in recent times I am in the club I see more and more of the brand name Sharks house guests at Oase and not at Sharks. Maybe that is a bad thing to follow the regular house guests, but I write the post and you decide.[/QUOTE]I do recollect till some years back, OASE did have better optics, But when I started reading here, the upselling part here I started ditching OASE. Looks like need to give it a try again. I am not necessarily a One Hour Customer.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2161624]I do recollect till some years back, OASE did have better optics, But when I started reading here, the upselling part here I started ditching OASE. Looks like need to give it a try again. I am not necessarily a One Hour Customer.[/QUOTE]Optics are good.
[QUOTE=Delta Indigo;2160118]Are their any girls here who rim, thanks.[/QUOTE]
Raisa will rimjob you for a 50 buck deal. It is such that sometimes you have to ask her to suck the shaft as she is so into rimming you. Raisa stands alone from the other Romanians, has brown hair, but not the typical Romanian dark brown hair you find on the gypsies. She has a slender body, firm high natural tits and tanned. Make sure you go with her first if you have problems that she as rimmed someone else before you. Raisa starts in the evening shift.
The girls say that regular House Guests get everything for 50 bucks meaning thy get the full 30 minutes plus couch time making a total of 45 minutes and all the services bar CIM and anal. Just tell the girls that you are a House Guest and know Mauro and that you are not a newbie.
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Hello my friend.
I would appreciate your advise, I never been to Germany I been to Scandalo and others in Spain, Morocco and Cyprus where I live. Is how do you compare quality in Germany to Spain is same? And please what's top places for beauty in Germany you also mentioned ocean, is there lots of variety and beauty. How about others beside of course Oases and Sharks. Thank you and we share experiences.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154852]And so to the last night of my trip and a visit to Oase. Having spent the day in Frankfurt where it was bitterly cold in wind with an icy chill, I actually contemplated not going to Oase or any FKK at all. I'd spent the last two nights in Oceans and Sharks until the early hours, had completed some great rooms and hours but perhaps age was catching up on me, and the thought of a workout, followed by a long soak in a hot bath or jacuzzi and a nice meal in the hotel was actually very appealing. If I lived in Germany I'd have taken a break last night. But us tourists don't have the luxury of skipping valuable FKK time. I don't live in a country where these clubs exist at all and hey. It was my final night.
Took the train to Bad Homburg. Had read in this forum years ago some great advice that there are frequently very few taxis at Freidrichsdorf HBF. I'd once not believed it, took the train all the way to Freidrichsdorf only to find no taxis and ended up having to call Oase to send one to me. No such problem at Bad Homburg and 20 euros later I arrived. At that point there was no sign of the snow which was to follow whilst I was enjoying the club..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2161634]Raisa will rim job you for a 50 buck deal. It is such that sometimes you have to ask her to suck the shaft as she is so into rimming you. Raisa stands alone from the other Romanians, has brown hair, but not the typical Romanian dark brown hair you find on the gypsies. She has a slender body, firm high natural tits and tanned. Make sure you go with her first if you have problems that she as rimmed someone else before you. Raisa starts in the evening shift.[/QUOTE]Last time I was at Oase, some chick offered to lick my ass just out of the blue. Didn't even have to ask her. Wonder if it was this "Raisa" as I didn't get a name? Anyway, wasn't attracted to her, so declined. If a tute is going to lick my arse, then she has got to look good to me! Hahaha!
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2161571]OASE Regulars will say OASE is better and Sharks Loyals will say Sharks is better :), but someone who is ready to try both, you are saying OASE has better optics and choice of girls than Sharks? And OASE tends to be less crowded than Sharks? [b]Why do you say so?[/b][/QUOTE]Because it is my opinion. And a fact that Oase is less crowded. Especially on Wednesdays and Sundays, the cheap charly day at Sharks. Even on Friday and Saturday Oase is less crowded.
I do not have any reason to push Oase or any other club. Go to Sharks, fine with me, Oase stays less crowded, good for me.
In absolute numbers Sharks probably has better choice and optics than Oase. Percentage wise I would rate Oase before Sharks, even Mainhattan which is not my favorite club.
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Ramadan 2018
Ramadan this year is earlier than the later Ramadan periods of 2016 and 2017. Okay, subject to moon sightings the dates is 15 May to 14 June so it should be nice to go to the club for those who get upset by those Ottoman customers (as opposed to regular House Guests) who observe this solemn festival.
So the clubs will be lacking a key segment of its clientele making it less crowded especially later at night at the time when the Imbiss has closed trading. Less competition for the girls and the weather is nice to spend outside fucking the working girls. Okay, some girls take this time free too as their main clientele is not present but there is enough of the other girls.
So get onto those airline portals and book those flights to the Federal Republic of Germany (in German: Bundesrepublik Deutschland Republic).
Public service announcement over.
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The Walking Dead scene in Oase
The club feels like it is a scene from the US television show called "The Walking Dead" which features the undead zombies. There is herds of men shuffling (not walking like upright men) around the club as if there is no purpose for them to be there or as to where they are going. It is aimless chaos theory style of where each of their random movements is taking them.
It is just an observation just sitting here in the Oase lounge in the area where the shishas are smoked to see the men before me haphazardly just going about their business. There does not seem to be any life in these people.
I hate to think.
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Customer service of staff at Oase
One would think as good business that with the cash flow that Oase generates that Mauro would invest in some customer services lesson for his staff, particularly the receptionists, who are the first people that most customers to Oase see and get a feel for what to expect at this large brothel.
The receptionist are perfunctory and short with customers taking your 70 bucks entry feel like its a right as opposed that they are happy for your business coming to the club and seeking repeat business from you.
In most customer facing business the company would have folded if the Oase receptionists were the face of those businesses, but this is a brothel, so there is a product here that men will put up with a lot of travesty and aggravation, to get to. Lucky Oase.
Really, though, there needs to be a better welcome to customers since I am sure there are customers who don't come back due to the way the reception treats them. Take Lanthano's report where he mentions in his report that his Oase was much diminished by the less than warm welcome he had from Oase reception and the less cheerful exit that the Reception afforded him.
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Atm
When visiting Oase, I always stop at this location for ATM: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Taunus+Sparkasse+-+Zweigstelle/@50.2336427,8.6727367,15z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x47bd06ede399611b:0xbab14ac106a15756!2sFKK-Oase!8m2!3d50.2421837!4d8.6754733!3m4!1s0x47bd0660cedc8475:0xda1ae38f79aed583!8m2!3d50.2261469!4d8.6789075[/URL].
What I like the most about this location is that when I request 800 E, it gives me mostly 100 E bill with maybe 2-4 50 E bill. I go to any other Sparkasse and never receive the same denomination. In contrast, when going to Sharks, the ATM machine in Rewe will give me a bunch of 20 E, 10 E and 5 E worth at least 200 E.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2161818]What I like the most about this location is that when I request 800 E, it gives me mostly 100 E bill with maybe 2-4 50 E bill. I go to any other Sparkasse and never receive the same denomination. In contrast, when going to Sharks, the ATM machine in Rewe will give me a bunch of 20 E, 10 E and 5 E worth at least 200 E.[/QUOTE]You need those lower denominations. Believe me.
Its always fun paying the Sharks superstars and precious princesses in crumpled 5 and 10 euro notes and 2 euro coins when they over charge you.
Then paying the gypsies in 100 euro and 200 euro notes and asking for change for the 40 euro session.
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[QUOTE=Moyla;2160627]Is public intimacy (BJ / Sex) allowed here? I want to visit palace / Oase / Mainhattan where I can have a session at the same time watch other people doing it. Please suggest me an FKK in Frankfurt where mongers are usually more public in their action.[/QUOTE]Out of those three clubs, Oase is probably the most recommended for public action in the cinema area. Even then you need to seek it out from a game dame.
The other two clubs are near non existent for public sex in my experience.
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[QUOTE=Moyla;2160627]Is public intimacy (BJ / Sex) allowed here? I want to visit palace / Oase / Mainhattan where I can have a session at the same time watch other people doing it. Please suggest me an FKK in Frankfurt where mongers are usually more public in their action.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Are you really serious by asking this kind of things, just spend some time on the forum.
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Identify German girl
There was this one time on a Friday at Oase that I saw a German girl with long brown hair wearing red high heels. Not the stripper shoes of the Romanians but normal high heels. She has a love heart tattoo on her left arm.
I only saw her that one night at Oase three Fridays ago in Mid March. I have not seen her since.
Does anyone have any further information on this German girl?
We think she is known.
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The comparison
[QUOTE=Carlojj;2161635]I would appreciate your advise, I never been to Germany I been to Scandalo and others in Spain, Morocco and Cyprus where I live. Is how do you compare quality in Germany to Spain is same? And please what's top places for beauty in Germany you also mentioned ocean, is there lots of variety and beauty. How about others beside of course Oases and Sharks. Thank you and we share experiences.[/QUOTE]Hi Carlojj. Many times have the FKKs been compared to the big Spanish clubs such as Vive Madrid and Scandalo. Each have their pros and cons. Cost wise it's about the same. When you take into account entrance fees at FKK the 100 per hour for basic S&F and extras for lots more, it equals out. Spanish clubs are mainly nightime experiences. FKKs are both day and nightime adventures. FKKs where the girls are naked allow you to see before you buy. We've all had that dreadful feeling of seeing great bodies wrapped up tight in the bar in Spain only to see everything head South when in the room. But it happens in Germany too! It did to me in Oceans only weeks ago! The NRW clubs are not naked clubs (least the one's I've been to are not). Spain is, for me, a much prettier country than Germany, with a lot better weather. So outside of the mongering its possibly a better place. That said, as this is the Oase thread. Worth mentioning that summer here, sitting in the outdoors, beer in one hand, a girls ass in the other whilst she is giving you head, is not something you're going to get even in Calle Montero in Madrid! The quality of the girls in Vive is only rivalled in Switzerland and Brazil for me. Vive has possibly the most diverse offerings in the World. Genuine Latinos from all over South America, girls from USA, UK, EE, China, Russia, Thailand. Genuinely all over the World. In 2016 I had a threesome with a girl from Peru and another from South Korea! FKKs are dominated by Romanian girls. Fine for me. But not to every man's taste. Artemis in Berlin is maybe more diverse but has older, more PSE types than the Hessen clubs.
So I don't actually think comparisons between countries count for much. Just different experiences. Orchard Towers in Singapore is as exciting as New York bar in Dubai, Phoenix Club in London (though the rest of London is awful for mongering). There is however something magically almost Romanesque about an FKK when the girls are nude. The feeling of knowing what Caesar enjoyed. I can recall lying by the pool in 2013 at Oase with some beautiful long-legged naked women walking arond that pool in high heels, with make up on, red lips, and a very pretty girl called Ruby from Romania asking me if I minded if she and her friend sunbathed with me. Of course they wanted my money. But having suntan lotion applied to areas I was never going to tan in and spending an hour by that pool getting very frisky before taking the two of them to the top of the field on a sofa and fucking them both in open air was not something I feel Spain can really compete with. I've had the best nights of my life in Scandalos, and have many friends there, but the first time you are in a nude FKK surrounded by 100+ naked women is something you just don't forget. Enjoy all the different offerings. You only live once!
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Katherina the Great
Quick query please for regulars: I visited Oase 2 weeks ago and had a nice session with the incredibly tall, auburn haired Katherina. Big green eyes / very tall without the shoes. Might be going back in 2 weeks. Just wondered if she was still at Oase over the last 2 weeks. Never good to attend a club for one girl -but have thought about her quite a bit since my return home and want an extended session. Anyone seen her this last weekend? Thanks.
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Catherine / Kathryn Bul
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2161922]Quick query please for regulars: I visited Oase 2 weeks ago and had a nice session with the incredibly tall, auburn haired Katherina. Big green eyes / very tall without the shoes. Might be going back in 2 weeks. Just wondered if she was still at Oase over the last 2 weeks. Never good to attend a club for one girl -but have thought about her quite a bit since my return home and want an extended session. Anyone seen her this last weekend? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I can answer the first question in the affirmative that Catherine has been seen working at Oase in the last two weeks as reported by me below.
As for Catherine working this past weekend I will have to leave that to someone else unless we wait several days when I will be present once again.
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Even better. The name is right. Catherine the Great!
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2161974]I can answer the first question in the affirmative that Catherine has been seen working at Oase in the last two weeks as reported by me below.
As for Catherine working this past weekend I will have to leave that to someone else unless we wait several days when I will be present once again.[/QUOTE]Many thanks Bitumen. We clearly share an appreciation of her visuals and I just read your report in response to mine. Glad to hear she is still about. I'm aiming to hit the club week after next and hope she's still around. Her confidence came over as being a little cold for me. But then I only did 30 minutes, as a sample, fully intending to end my night with a long session with her, only to find our timings were out: when I was in a room she may have gotten free, or I'the come out and need rest time when she was free but I was incapable, or she was busy. Hence the desire to return for more though for me to have a long session (1. 5 hours plus) I need to be able to enjoy more than the physicals and have some sort of banter / chemistry and I do wonder if her seemingly cold demeanor works with that. Maybe you could let me know if you've enjoyed longer time with her and if so what she was like. Defintely no empty vessel as you said. I'll make the trip whatever as there are other options I like but am hoping to get some proper time with her.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2161921]Hi Carlojj. Many times have the FKKs been compared to the big Spanish clubs such as Vive Madrid and Scandalo. Each have their pros and cons. Cost wise it's about the same. When you take into account entrance fees at FKK the 100 per hour for basic S&F and extras for lots more, it equals out. Spanish clubs are mainly nightime experiences. FKKs are both day and nightime adventures. FKKs where the girls are naked allow you to see before you buy. We've all had that dreadful feeling of seeing great bodies wrapped up tight in the bar in Spain only to see everything head South when in the room. But it happens in Germany too! It did to me in Oceans only weeks ago! The NRW clubs are not naked clubs (least the one's I've been to are not). Spain is, for me, a much prettier country than Germany, with a lot better weather. So outside of the mongering its possibly a better place. That said, as this is the Oase thread. Worth mentioning that summer here, sitting in the outdoors, beer in one hand, a girls ass in the other whilst she is giving you head, is not something you're going to get even in Calle Montero in Madrid! The quality of the girls in Vive is only rivalled in Switzerland and Brazil for me. Vive has possibly the most diverse offerings in the World. Genuine Latinos from all over South America, girls from USA, UK, EE, China, Russia, Thailand. Genuinely all over the World. In 2016 I had a threesome with a girl from Peru and another from South Korea! FKKs are dominated by Romanian girls. Fine for me. But not to every man's taste. Artemis in Berlin is maybe more diverse but has older, more PSE types than the Hessen clubs.
So I don't actually think comparisons between countries count for much. Just different experiences. Orchard Towers in Singapore is as exciting as New York bar in Dubai, Phoenix Club in London (though the rest of London is awful for mongering). There is however something magically almost Romanesque about an FKK when the girls are nude. The feeling of knowing what Caesar enjoyed. I can recall lying by the pool in 2013 at Oase with some beautiful long-legged naked women walking arond that pool in high heels, with make up on, red lips, and a very pretty girl called Ruby from Romania asking me if I minded if she and her friend sunbathed with me. Of course they wanted my money. But having suntan lotion applied to areas I was never going to tan in and spending an hour by that pool getting very frisky before taking the two of them to the top of the field on a sofa and fucking them both in open air was not something I feel Spain can really compete with. I've had the best nights of my life in Scandalos, and have many friends there, but the first time you are in a nude FKK surrounded by 100+ naked women is something you just don't forget. Enjoy all the different offerings. You only live once![/QUOTE]That's a great Post! Giving a lot of information and comparing things, truly looks like comes from a experienced Monger who has seen places in world. Appreciate the info that you have put on your experience else where including the FKK's. The VIVE place that you have mentioned where is it exactly?
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2161922]Quick query please for regulars: I visited Oase 2 weeks ago and had a nice session with the incredibly tall, auburn haired Katherina. Big green eyes / very tall without the shoes. Might be going back in 2 weeks. Just wondered if she was still at Oase over the last 2 weeks. Never good to attend a club for one girl -but have thought about her quite a bit since my return home and want an extended session. Anyone seen her this last weekend? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Seen her last week. Had two sessions with her, she doesn't kiss, she does that only for her lover / boyfriend. Wouldn't repeat.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2162058]The VIVE place that you have mentioned where is it exactly?[/QUOTE]Vive is located in Madrid. There are reports in the ISG Spain section.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2161921] Worth mentioning that summer here, sitting in the outdoors, beer in one hand, a girls ass in the other whilst she is giving you head, is not something you're going to get[/QUOTE]Well said, and that's why I keep crawling back every month or two, 8 hours one way flight trip at average, for 2 days of my FKK euphoric dose, then back to my country, even though it costs me quite a fortune.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2162060]Seen her last week. Had two sessions with her, she doesn't kiss, she does that only for her lover / boyfriend. Wouldn't repeat.[/QUOTE]Second that. She was there last week.
Promised kissing before room. Lied! Pulled away from even just a lip to lip kiss. Promised "erotic massage", then in room, I had to remind her, well how about that erotic massage? She replied, "for erotic massage, I will rub my breasts over your chest, and your stomach, like this." Of course, in my mind, I'm thinking, "can we cut the description and actually just do the "erotic massage" itself? Oh wait. What? That was it? That 5-seconds where you ran your boobs over my chest and stomach was the "I give you nice erotic massage".
Promised BBBJ before room. Surprise! Lie. "It's the law, now, you know, in Germany." 7 seconds later: "but of course, if you pay more."
Promised slow, soft sensuous session. "Yes, yes, of course, I know sensuous, yes, you like soft, slow". Lie. Slapped on a rubber within 30 seconds of entering room. "Oh, you want to fuck me for full hour". In my mind: "well, duh, yes, since we did agree on 1 hour for 100. You mean I should speed it up for you just so you can get out the room before time?
I could go on, but really not even worth it.
Rating? Nice guy that I am, I'll give her a 2 out of 10.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2161789]One would think as good business that with the cash flow that Oase generates that Mauro would invest in some customer services lesson for his staff, particularly the receptionists, who are the first people that most customers to Oase see and get a feel for what to expect at this large brothel.
The receptionist are perfunctory and short with customers taking your 70 bucks entry feel like its a right as opposed that they are happy for your business coming to the club and seeking repeat business from you.
In most customer facing business the company would have folded if the Oase receptionists were the face of those businesses, but this is a brothel, so there is a product here that men will put up with a lot of travesty and aggravation, to get to. Lucky Oase.
Really, though, there needs to be a better welcome to customers since I am sure there are customers who don't come back due to the way the reception treats them. Take Lanthano's report where he mentions in his report that his Oase was much diminished by the less than warm welcome he had from Oase reception and the less cheerful exit that the Reception afforded him.[/QUOTE]Mix feeling on Oase receptionist. Couple of time, I had this girl greeting me with full of sunshine, other time. They are stone cold. I guess it must be girl's things.
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Avid reporter
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2162378] some members used to write reviews with ratings such as face 8, body 7, service 7, chemistry 6 etc. Slowly, that practice faded.
...put down how likely he is to repeat a girl...[/QUOTE]The girls were complaining about a customer that when taking the girls to the room, before the session started, the man would bring out a pad of paper and pen, asking the girl to write down her name, her height, hair color and vital statistics for his internet report. He wanted his report to be accurate and detailed or it was for his own records.
Some girls on realizing what the data was for, refused to fuck him and left the room.
That is dedication to the cause of reporting.
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It's probably also worth mentioning that there are two parking lots directly behind this bank (not visible from the front of the bank). Take a left on Josef-Bauman Strasse right next to the bank and you will find the parking lots on your left. The parking lots are hidden by thick shrubbery, so it's not obvious that this is where you're supposed to park.
The inside ATMs are accessible 24 hours. So, you don't have to worry about being locked out at 2 am or 5 am or whenever. Always open.
The Italian restaurant, Pizzaria Guido, just down the street is worth recommending also -- although they lack the scores of naked Romanian girls hanging around you while you eat that another Italian restaurant in the area is known for.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2161818]When visiting Oase, I always stop at this location for ATM: [URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Taunus+Sparkasse+-+Zweigstelle/@50.2336427,8.6727367,15z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x47bd06ede399611b:0xbab14ac106a15756!2sFKK-Oase!8m2!3d50.2421837!4d8.6754733!3m4!1s0x47bd0660cedc8475:0xda1ae38f79aed583!8m2!3d50.2261469!4d8.6789075[/URL].
What I like the most about this location is that when I request 800 E, it gives me mostly 100 E bill with maybe 2-4 50 E bill. I go to any other Sparkasse and never receive the same denomination. In contrast, when going to Sharks, the ATM machine in Rewe will give me a bunch of 20 E, 10 E and 5 E worth at least 200 E.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2162388]The girls were complaining about a customer that when taking the girls to the room, before the session started, the man would bring out a pad of paper and pen, asking the girl to write down her name, her height, hair color and vital statistics for his internet report. [/QUOTE]That's plain stupid of him. Who in hell is still using paper and pen? For that you use a tablet, an Excel file and the camera. And for sure you also need her age, confection size, bust size, nationality, tattoos and piercings.
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[QUOTE=LocoTonto;2162358]...........Promised slow, soft sensuous session. "Yes, yes, of course, I know sensuous, yes, you like soft, slow". Lie. Slapped on a rubber within 30 seconds of entering room. "Oh, you want to fuck me for full hour". In my mind: "well, duh, yes, since we did agree on 1 hour for 100. You mean I should speed it up for you just so you can get out the room before time?
I could go on, but really not even worth it.
Rating? Nice guy that I am, I'll give her a 2 out of 10.[/QUOTE]You agreed for 1 hour for 100. How much time of actual FS did she give you before she started to complain?
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Asian girls at Oase
Gents. I plan to visit Oase and Sharks next week, and am looking for a GFE session with an Asian girl. I see that one of my favorites (May) is no longer there, which is a shame. Are there other GFE young Asian girls at Oase these days?
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2162064]Vive is located in Madrid. There are reports in the ISG Spain section.[/QUOTE]For all it is! It is just a Strip club! That to me sounds so very primitive you see! LOL! I mean after visiting the German FKK's which man in his right mind would say a strip club is more value for money unless someone wants variety. Talking about strip clubs, I do know we have quite a bit of American audience here so nothing personally against them, but for the Americans the strip club is the big thing and a wonder they boast about, Vegas being called Sin City and all that! I find it extremely laughable! They should come to a German FKK and see how Nudity has been taken to a next level and is a win win situation for both the customer and the working girl! You pay for what you see! The other day I was talking to a bunch of Americans and I told them you guys should stop talking about Vegas and see a German FKK it would the blow the water out of you! :) But for each its own. :)
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[QUOTE=NF4591;2162669]Gents. I plan to visit Oase and Sharks next week, and am looking for a GFE session with an Asian girl. I see that one of my favorites (May) is no longer there, which is a shame. Are there other GFE young Asian girls at Oase these days?[/QUOTE]There is Asian look girl. But I believe that she is not from Thai or any other Asia counties. Why don't you go to Thailand or Macau if you are in Asian girls.
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Asian girls in Frankfurt
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2162714]There is Asian look girl. But I believe that she is not from Thai or any other Asia counties. Why don't you go to Thailand or Macau if you are in Asian girls.[/QUOTE]And if stuck in Frankfurt, then there is also a brothel with Asian girls only in downtown between Westend and Bockenheim (not too far away from Frankfurt Messe/FKK Palace). See [URL]http://japan-china-girls.de/[/URL] . Never been there myself, but there are some (relativly positive) reviews in the Frankfurt thread.
Selection: 5 girls 24/7 150E/60 (according to website).
Yeah, it's been a while since I saw an Asian girl at Oase. Kim (Thailand) at times but very inregularly (older but fit and with solid performance). Alexa will at times jokingly claim half Thai due to her looks, but really is Romanian (also a decent provider IME). Maybe Bitu/RN has better intel? Until then, Mauro's got a job to do. We are many that miss May.
Nah Jooeeeeeey, Vive is not a strip club. It's a bar/night club. And it's not within your budget. Get real.
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Not quite. From 10 pm (actually by sun-set) many of those ottomanns start pouring in.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2161772]Ramadan this year is earlier than the later Ramadan periods of 2016 and 2017. Okay, subject to moon sightings the dates is 15 May to 14 June so it should be nice to go to the club for those who get upset by those Ottoman customers (as opposed to regular House Guests) who observe this solemn festival.
So the clubs will be lacking a key segment of its clientele making it less crowded especially later at night at the time when the Imbiss has closed trading. Less competition for the girls and the weather is nice to spend outside fucking the working girls. Okay, some girls take this time free too as their main clientele is not present but there is enough of the other girls.
So get onto those airline portals and book those flights to the Federal Republic of Germany (in German: Bundesrepublik Deutschland Republic).
Public service announcement over.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2162671]For all it is! It is just a Strip club! That to me sounds so very primitive you see! LOL! I mean after visiting the German FKK's which man in his right mind would say a strip club is more value for money unless someone wants variety. [/QUOTE]To be clear. Vive is most definitely NOT a strip club. It is a brothel the size of Sharks or bigger. It does not have naked women, food being served, professional massage. What it does have are some of the most beautiful women on the planet, from all over the World not just from EE, who do not lie about their origin, who charge 220 per hour but are mainly 9's and 10's out of 10. It's about quality. The nudity experience in FKKs is great. If you want a truly stunning woman in an FKK you need to visit many to find one. In Vive there are 80 of them lined up every night. Different price, different quality. Not a strip club in a million years.
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Vegas is a Joke.
[QUOTE=Jooeey;2162671]For all it is! It is just a Strip club! That to me sounds so very primitive you see! LOL! I mean after visiting the German FKK's which man in his right mind would say a strip club is more value for money unless someone wants variety. Talking about strip clubs, I do know we have quite a bit of American audience here so nothing personally against them, but for the Americans the strip club is the big thing and a wonder they boast about, Vegas being called Sin City and all that! I find it extremely laughable! They should come to a German FKK and see how Nudity has been taken to a next level and is a win win situation for both the customer and the working girl! You pay for what you see! The other day I was talking to a bunch of Americans and I told them you guys should stop talking about Vegas and see a German FKK it would the blow the water out of you! :) But for each its own.[/QUOTE]Jooeey is right about one thing. Vegas and any US strip club is a joke compared to an FKK. And I am quite sure PayForIt is right about Vive. Both Spain and Brazil have a similar format of "high end nightclub where every girl is a pro ready to go". I am going to Brazil this summer and hope to try it out.
The best strip club cum brothel format is In Thailand and Russia where both have a go go bar, but the dancers are all for takeout. I rather like Russia a bit better for this because there is high end strip club atmosphere and there are nice hotel rooms on site for the finish. I love the variety of formats around the world, as long as the pot of gold is at the end!
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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2162849]Not quite. From 10 pm (actually by sun-set) many of those ottomanns start pouring in.[/QUOTE]Bad non observing Ramadan Ottomans, Bad.
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Nah Jooeeeeeey, Vive is not a strip club. It's a bar/night club. And it's not within your budget. Get real.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. Let see! You know a lot about my spending capability than I do? LOL! But $200 for a girl maybe. Maybe. In the rarest of rare occasions like you guys say the girls in Vive are mostly 8-9 out of 10 ! Why not then? Worth trying once. And I do like Spanish girls and of that likes. Let se see when destiny takes me there.🙄
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2162919]Hmmm. Let see! You know a lot about my spending capability than I do? LOL! But $200 for a girl maybe. Maybe.[/QUOTE]OK, sorry if I misread you:
[QUOTE=Jooeey;2161624]I am not necessarily a One Hour Customer.[/QUOTE]But please go to Vive. It could be interesting to hear your views.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2162875]It's about quality.[/QUOTE]Optic quality? Perhaps (never been there myself). More variation in the LU? I hear good things about the place. Performancewise? According to reports gents can experience CBJ and non-kissing sessions at Vive just like in a FKK Club. Even at 220- 240E/60. But let's move that discussion to the Madrid thread.
Jooeey,
In stead of asking a sillion questions, please do your homework and READ a little before asking. I will give you a little hint: Read The Cane's last reports in the Spain section.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2162991]Instead of asking a sillion questions, please do your homework and READ a little before asking. [/QUOTE]Futile advice, that would just lead to more questions. Just read his old posts! :)
(Yes, I was guilty in responding some years ago.)
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Not everyone has same Priorities!
Guys except for banging girls day in and day out, there are other things that I do in Life! Which includes working, earning a livelyhood. So I am not stationed 24/7 at FKK's as most of you guys are. So for a person who attends these places once in a year or once in two years. What do you expect? Keep churning out reports one after another?? I have Got some meaningful things also to do in Life! Other than Just keep having Sex! Sorry if it hurt anyone. But I will have more to ask, than to post here because of my less frequent visits to the FKK's so what's the big deal about it? Huh?
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2163030]Futile advice, that would just lead to more questions. Just read his old posts! :)
(Yes, I was guilty in responding some years ago.)[/QUOTE]Please do not be guilty. We all make mistakes in responding to futile comments or questions from those that who refuse to be rationale by helping themselves.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2162388]The girls were complaining about a customer that when taking the girls to the room, before the session started, the man would bring out a pad of paper and pen, asking the girl to write down her name, her height, hair color and vital statistics for his internet report. He wanted his report to be accurate and detailed or it was for his own records.
Some girls on realizing what the data was for, refused to fuck him and left the room.
That is dedication to the cause of reporting.[/QUOTE]They probably refused him because they were about to give him poor service and did not want that reported. Worth considering.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2163122]They probably refused him because they were about to give him poor service and did not want that reported. Worth considering.[/QUOTE]Worth a thought I agree.
The guy was also reported by some Sharks girls (including a popular Sharks Superstar) as well as some of the popular girls at Oase. The guy seems to get around. It was not YamaYama for sure.
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Are there lockers at the stations near Oase?
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2163209] PM. But better yet: just drop it, because who cares, really?
I suggest that any further posts on this tread should deal with Oase issues. There is a Chat Lounge for other BS.[/QUOTE]Here here! Guys. Can I suggest you drop the scrapping. Firstly, nobody really does care, secondly, you are unlikely to ever meet so this is really quite irrelevant for you both. I got into a similar exchange with a guy in the London thread, had had enough and offered to meet him face to face to sort it only to get a warning from Jackson! I now see "please don't post argumentative comments directed towards other forum members" every time I log in! Seriously? 😤😤; So it really doesn't pay.
As Ortos correctly states. If you really really must continue this take it to the Lounge thread. We've had two pages of the debating! I'm beginning to wonder what's going on at Oase. Obviously not much to write about!
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Paper and pen.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2162388]The girls were complaining about a customer that when taking the girls to the room, before the session started, the man would bring out a pad of paper and pen, asking the girl to write down her name, her height, hair color and vital statistics for his internet report. He wanted his report to be accurate and detailed or it was for his own records.Some girls on realizing what the data was for, refused to fuck him and left the room.That is dedication to the cause of reporting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2163155]...The guy was also reported by some Sharks girls (including a popular Sharks Superstar) as well as some of the popular girls at Oase. The guy seems to get around. It was not YamaYama for sure.[/QUOTE]I need a chronograph, though.
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[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2163279]I need a chronograph, though.[/QUOTE]And an event cataloguer.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2163228]Are there lockers at the stations near Oase?[/QUOTE]No, nearest is Frankfurt Hbf.
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Bar fine for taking girls out of the club before closing time
The evening shift girls have to work to closing time. So either 4 am or 5 am depending on the day.
To take a girl out of the club before her shift has ended is 130 bucks if I recall correctly. That is paid to the house.
Then you need to negotiate the price for the girl to go with you.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2163228]Are there lockers at the stations near Oase?[/QUOTE]You can store some stuff in the Oase reception. Or on top of the lockers in the locker room.
Same as at Sharks. There the Reception store the luggage in the office that connects to the lobby.
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Mauro's rules
This is old news but good to know.
Mauro in his lectures on etiquette says to the girls to not to call customers baby.
Also girls are banned from being aggressive with Asian customers by grabbing them forcibly and dragging them to the room.
Mauro says it puts off customers coming back to Oase again.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2164161]This is old news but good to know.
Mauro in his lectures on etiquette says to the girls to not to call customers baby.
Also girls are banned from being aggressive with Asian customers by grabbing them forcibly and dragging them to the room.
Mauro says it puts off customers coming back to Oase again.[/QUOTE]Not sure it helps to post these things here. The cops in Berlin used similar rules as an excuse the send 900 cops to Artemis and arrest 4 of the employees there.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2164161]This is old news but good to know.
Mauro in his lectures on etiquette says to the girls to not to call customers baby.
[/QUOTE]What is wrong with girls calling customers baby? Its cute and nice. Better than calling customers daddy, or papa LOL. Alma also offered to go back to hotel with me, but i did not partake at that time. wonder if she is still there. will be back soon to visit my few favs, hope they are there, and also need to find one that is working in the night shift, as all my favs are in the morning shift. I have been reading lots about threesome in sharks, and the girls to pick. I only had a threesome on my very first visit that is sharks, and that was quite fun. but have not tried threesome in oase. have seen vicky walking around with her blonde slim friend offering threesome but always said not to the threesome offers. Anyone had good experience with threesomes in oase that they care to share?
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Pretty slow night at Oase. Eastern Othodox Good Friday created a pretty weak casting day this past Friday. It did make my choices pretty easy though. It was empty during the day but all the girls I would want to go with where there by 3 pm. Anna, Carla, and Claudia.
Logistics had me use public transport, something that I hardly ever do while clubbing. But I experienced the refreshing walk from the train station that so many rave about. I had a great walk through the town of Suelberg, by the apple orchard, to a path under a small road, through some farms, over the A5 autobahn, through the farm / park, over a stream on a wooden bridge through the woods, and opening into a walkway behind Oase. I had my backpack on at 2 pm during my walk and felt like a school boy walking home for an afternoon of fun with his toys.
It was a sunny day but a little too breezy at 16 C for girls to be by the pool.
Anna with the large tattoo on her back returned with some new bolt ONS. She's still a great provider but new boobs always restricts what you can do with a girl in the room. I had to worry about "crushing her boobs" in various positions. So girls who have new boobs always prefer doggie. That gets boring though. Anyway, she gives a nice sensual BJ and knows how to wrap her lips around a cock for visual effect. However I won't repeat until she's able to put pressure on those boobs.
Carla was around and has gained a kilo or 2 since I last saw her a few months ago. She's the only short girl I know who gains weight well. All of her weight went straight to her boobs. She can be a little pro, over acting a bit but I love this fun size tart. She's soft from the boobs down to her pussy. Moist pussy, soft skin, sexy lips, fun personality. Good mix of porno acting and sensuality. She's a little too upfront about money though. But I think she knows that I'm a pro hobbyist.
I waited too long for Claudia at the end of the night as she said she was only taking 15 minute rooms at 3 am. She's gotten a little more skinny on her upper body, arms and boobs are smaller. I preferred her with a little more weight. She still had a gravity defying ass, although not as toned as in February.
Those 3 were the only ones there that fit my specs with Anna being a little meatier than my optimal preference.
The 2 older Asian ladies were there during the day. One with short dyed hair and the other slightly older looking long haired one.
Old black lady was moping around till closing time. Pretty Jamaican girl with athletic arms also around.
One long hair Turkish girl caught my eye.
Missing favorites were Both Adeles, Lara, Kathi, Ariana, Denisa.
Others not seen, no Heidi, no Ina, no Cleopatra.
I'm pretty bad with names of girls I don't go with so sorry for the limited field report.
Apparently many girls were in their dorms choosing just to not work on a holy day. If true, this will make the line up at Oase pretty good for this upcoming week and going forward.
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[QUOTE=Nuupter;2164193]What is wrong with girls calling customers baby? Its cute and nice. Better than calling customers daddy, or papa LOL.
but have not tried threesome in oase. have seen vicky walking around with her blonde slim friend offering threesome but always said not to the threesome offers. Anyone had good experience with threesomes in oase that they care to share?[/QUOTE]They call everyone baby and it get's annoying after a 1000 times of hearing it. For me, it gives me the feeling that I'm being processed.
Mauro's got his views on WG's. He definitely treats them like property. The clients don't see it but Oase has a lot more rules imposed upon them then most other clubs. He might be tougher on the girls than the management of the World-Finca-Mainhattan group. I feel a little sympathy for the girls but it's much better for the clients than what's allowed to go on at Sharks.
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Public action still goes on in Oase kino or not in kino
Public action is still rife at Oase.
There are house guest guys wanting blondes to blow them in the no smoking area and get molested by them.
There was a Pakistani man taking several girls at a time to blow him in the Kino. He was like the king. One blonde licking his right nipple, a brunette licking his left nipple and a black haired girl on her knees on the floor in between. His legs sucking on his cock. He was in heaven.
Then after finishing and paying he was doing it again with a blonde and a brunette doing the same.
He was having a great time. Shame about running out of money and needing to use the credit card machine to get more money.
Credit where credit is due.
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Thanks for the update
[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2164310]Pretty slow night at Oase. Eastern Othodox Good Friday created a pretty weak casting day this past Friday. It did make my choices pretty easy though. It was empty during the day but all the girls I would want to go with where there by 3 pm. Anna, Carla, and Claudia.
Logistics had me use public transport, something that I hardly ever do while clubbing. But I experienced the refreshing walk from the train station that so many rave about. I had a great walk through the town of Suelberg, by the apple orchard, to a path under a small road, through some farms, over the A5 autobahn, through the farm / park, over a stream on a wooden bridge through the woods, and opening into a walkway behind Oase. I had my backpack on at 2 pm during my walk and felt like a school boy walking home for an afternoon of fun with his toys.
If true, this will make the line up at Oase pretty good for this upcoming week and going forward.[/QUOTE]Excellent field report. Although I never have seen Anna or Claudia I would say with confidence that Oase at 3 PM has a better LU than the Lone Star State (Republic) does 24/7. It is about to get worse as all our major boards from ' sea to shining sea' even if hosted in the Netherlands pulled the plug or got the plug pulled on them in the last 24 to 48 hours including the ' monster' of all our boards, only the Canadian owned one stands. I suspect we will see more travelling mongers from the USA. In the last 24 hours I got over 5 emails from guys asking about European pussy. I replied to none, they can go figure it out for themselves. I am not a tour guide or travelocity for hookers. We Americans able to escape this living purgatory should feel happy and blessed and on this Romanian Easter count our blessings in prayers and thank Jesus. (Or whatever one does on Easter).
I am looking forward to next weeks lineups as well. Thanks for updating, sounds promising.
Your ' walk thru the fields' especially the apple orchard reminded me of the scene in Shawshank Redemption when Morgan Freeman's character visits the Maine field in Buxton one last time for Andy before he bailed for Mexico. I am actually googling the walk now, need excercise, I think I will follow in your footsteps although your ladies are just too classy! Maybe you left me a little box of several thousand Euros buried under a shiny rock that looks out of place at the end of a rock fence under a Joshua Tree.
I promise to spend the money you left me on Adele, Lara, Kathi, Ariana, and Denisa and none will be spent at the Dietzenbach STD Dispensary. (Hope you left 50 and 100 notes not 5, not 10 or 20's).
Enjoy the rest of your trip and thanks for the ' live reporting' and happy Romanian Easter. I really enjoyed Oase during the day despite the weak LU (that you semi encountered too) but even a thin LU at Oase mid-day is heaven on earth for a guy like me but it does make choices easy as it was for you as well.
Thank you for the update. Por favor, please do not eat all the Diavalo Pizzas (the #9 I think); they became a nightly ritual for me
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2164383]There was a Pakistani man taking several girls at a time to blow him in the Kino. He was like the king. One blonde licking his right nipple, a brunette licking his left nipple and a black haired girl on her knees on the floor in between. His legs sucking on his cock. He was in heaven.
He was having a great time. Shame about running out of money and needing to use the credit card machine to get more money.
Credit where credit is due.[/QUOTE]I hate credit card fees or machines with fees but this might be one of those times to justify such. I am sure the sexually gratified Pakistani Monger happily justified the 3 percent charge plus transaction fees or whatever Oase charged him. God bless him You are probably best fit to answer this question ( or RN if willing to share) are there ' additional' costs associated with public blowing? I did not ask for such but when I was in the room with that Ghana girl ( very good service) we were talking about that and she told me she does not like to do it in the open and also she told me those men were paying extra for it. Is this a YMMV thing? If they blow you for 30 min there I can see a ' charge' but what if it is a ' short appetizer' prior to the room. On prior trips I got a blowjob for a few minutes in the old cinema prior to a room and I also enjoyed a green cigarette in a cabana back in the soccer fields and a blowjob with a different girl prior to a room. Both were 30 min 50e BBBJ/CFS ( AO was offered for 100-200 more). Why was there no upsell? Or is it simply 2016 vs 2018? I do not think it is a ' Germans get it for free' type thing here as I am not German nor do I think this Pakistani got what he got without paying a few bucks.
Perhaps you can enlighten us on ' the norm' as a general rule of thumb on the public blowjobs...
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2164447]
Thank you for the update. Por favor, please do not eat all the Diavalo Pizzas (the #9 I think); they became a nightly ritual for me
I hate credit card fees or machines with fees but this might be one of those times to justify such. I am sure the sexually gratified Pakistani Monger happily justified the 3 percent charge plus transaction fees or whatever Oase charged him. God bless him You are probably best fit to answer this question ( or RN if willing to share) are there ' additional' costs associated with public blowing? I did not ask for such but when I was in the room with that Ghana girl ( very good service) we were talking about that and she told me she does not like to do it in the open and also she told me those men were paying extra for it. Is this a YMMV thing? If they blow you for 30 min there I can see a ' charge' but what if it is a ' short appetizer' prior to the room. On prior trips I got a blowjob for a few minutes in the old cinema prior to a room and I also enjoyed a green cigarette in a cabana back in the soccer fields and a blowjob with a different girl prior to a room. Both were 30 min 50e BBBJ/CFS ( AO was offered for 100-200 more). Why was there no upsell? Or is it simply 2016 vs 2018? I do not think it is a ' Germans get it for free' type thing here as I am not German nor do I think this Pakistani got what he got without paying a few bucks.
Perhaps you can enlighten us on ' the norm' as a general rule of thumb on the public blowjobs...[/QUOTE]The diavolo pizza is number 9 on the menu. It is spicy sausage (pepperoni) pizza. Lovely.
The Diavolo is my favourite too.
As for public action. If a girl says it's extra then she is trying to hose you for extra cash. There is no such thing as an extra for public action unless you agree to pay for it as an extra.
You should be able to get public Kino action included in the standard price. Public action still continues at Oase. Makes it a huge selling point for customers with that inkling.
Public action is great for all to enjoy. Viewing pleasure for the voyeur and their who like being seen getting sucked and fucked by gypsies.
We look for ward to hearing of the exploits of your next visit next week.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2164472]The diavolo pizza is number 9 on the menu. It is spicy sausage (pepperoni) pizza. Lovely.
The Diavolo is my favourite too.
As for public action. If a girl says it's extra then she is trying to hose you for extra cash. There is no such thing as an extra for public action unless you agree to pay for it as an extra.
You should be able to get public Kino action included in the standard price. Public action still continues at Oase. Makes it a huge selling point for customers with that inkling.
Public action is great for all to enjoy. Viewing pleasure for the voyeur and their who like being seen getting sucked and fucked by gypsies.
We look for ward to hearing of the exploits of your next visit next week.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I suspected such as neither asked for cash for the public sucking. The AO offers occurred in the room. I should have paid for it maybe those chicks will be there next trip. They were nowhere to be found last trip
Look forward to the next trip and thank you for the warm wishes. With my unexpected tax refund on the way many of the Gypsies (both clean / beautiful ones and ugly / filthy ones) will all get to share Uncle Sam's direct deposit he is making in to my account, it has been awhile since I did any cervix blasting with fine ladies other than ' The Gypsies' or ' Texas Trash'.
Followed by the number 9 pizza of course.
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"Direct deposit".
Ha ha ha.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2164472]The diavolo pizza is number 9 on the menu. It is spicy sausage (pepperoni) pizza. Lovely.
The Diavolo is my favourite too.
As for public action. If a girl says it's extra then she is trying to hose you for extra cash. There is no such thing as an extra for public action unless you agree to pay for it as an extra.
You should be able to get public Kino action included in the standard price. Public action still continues at Oase. Makes it a huge selling point for customers with that inkling.
Public action is great for all to enjoy. Viewing pleasure for the voyeur and their who like being seen getting sucked and fucked by gypsies.
We look for ward to hearing of the exploits of your next visit next week.[/QUOTE]Public action at Oase? Are you joking, it happens very very rarely.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2164447]Your ' walk thru the fields' especially the apple orchard reminded me of the scene in Shawshank Redemption when Morgan Freeman's character visits the Maine field in Buxton one last time for Andy before he bailed for Mexico. I am actually googling the walk now, need excercise, I think I will follow in your footsteps although your ladies are just too classy!
Maybe you left me a little box of several thousand Euros buried under a shiny rock that looks out of place at the end of a rock fence under a Joshua Tree.
I promise to spend the money you left me on Adele, Lara, Kathi, Ariana, and Denisa and none will be spent at the Dietzenbach STD Dispensary. (Hope you left 50 and 100 notes not 5, not 10 or 20's)..[/QUOTE]Thanks but no need to avoid those girls. All three give top tier service to 1 HR mongers and they seem to leave half hour mongers pretty happy too.
I'll see what I can do about a cash cache on my return trips this week and next. If you do donate to some of my favorites, give it to Denisa, she's the most deserving, super sweet and genuine.
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I've read through many pages between the Oase and Sharks threads and a few times I read that Oase is more diverse in its line up (ethnically / racially) than Sharks. Is this still true?
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A Day with Sherin.
Last week, I visited for the first time. Nice decoration. I reached at 11:00 and paid 50 e entrance for staying till 16:00. Things like robe, locker, shower etc were clean. Entering into the main area, I saw that the bar, kino, sofas and pole dance area. All are in the same place. Inside one big room actually. But I was disappointed by the number of girls. Kathrine (may be) approached and after sometimes introduced another tall beautiful as her girlfriend. They offered threesome. From my previous experience, I was saying "may be later" and enjoyed their company for some time. I had a feeling that, their warm behavior will be changed into cold once we go inside. So, although they offered blowjob right there in the kino, I said no. Then came another one. Ana that is all. As I said, very few girls were there: 6-8 maximum with more guys. So I went to have breakfast. It was OK. Talked with another pair who offered threesome. Denied. One girl was playing in the machine. Walked towards her and started talking. She was beautiful but not my type. So, being sad, returned to my seat. Then only one girl was left who could be after my type. I was looking at her. She saw me after few moments and came to my sofa. She was very discrete and seemed "not that interested". I was also "not that interested" but I had no other choice. I was thinking like: lets have a session anyways. Once in the room, she talked in a very professional tone: what services do you want? How do you want. Slow or fast? I answered. I did not expect much from this session. But oh my god! At once started the greatest BJ I have ever had. I have been with 20 girls and 2 girlfriends before. No one could match her. She rolled hand all over my body, saw the response and repeated the parts which I liked. I had a very nice sex also. 30 min, 50 e. No upselling. She was Sherin.
After showering, I had juice and few fruits. Went to sauna. Apparently, only I was using that. Had some rest and a short nap. Then went to hall room. Saw two new girls. Talked. But against usual logic, decided to go with Sherin again. I think she could not believe that I will choose her again. We had eye contact 3 times, I laughed but she was staying away. At next eye contact, I waved her and she came over. Asked if she wants another session. Then requested to have sex in the kino. But she refused saying that public sex is not permitted in the new rule. I requested again, and she told only touching. Not more. I agreed. For next 5-7 minutes we were sitting in kino, both naked, she was touching my penis and pelvic areas in front of other girls and few guests. People were looking and I got more excited. I requested her for BJ but she denied. So, being little down, went to the room. I told her that, this time I want a very slow and sensual BJ, not sex and it is OK if I do not cum. She went right into the business. After 15-20 minutes, I requested to extend the session for 30 minutes more. She agreed. She was continuously sucking my dick. I felt sympathy and said she can take short breaks. I also asked if she wants anything, like licking / fingering in return. She replied in a very cold voice: "I am not your GF. I don't cum. I don't want anything. I only want your money. " I thought fair enough and simply said: OK. After 50 minutes of continuous whole hearted sucking, I was feeling like this session is even worthy of 200 e. So I said to her, for the last 10 minutes, do whatever you like. I think by that time, she was surprised that I had not cum yet. So, I think, she took it personally to make me cum. And the next 10 minutes were a heavenly mixture of BJ and HJ. She was trying very hard. I was lying on my back, eyes closed, mouth slightly open and trying to feel every sensual part of my body. Finally I came. Total time exceeded 60 minutes. But she did not stop. Although I said that, it would be OK if I don't cum, it seemed that she took personal challenge to make me cum. I came in her hand. I was totally exhausted and lying with a big smile on my face. It was almost 16:00. I ate some fruits again. Had sauna. And after a shower, came outside.
Guys. If you visit Oase, try to have some fun with Shyrin. You will remember the time.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2164381]Anna = Deborah?[/QUOTE]I've only gone with her since the beginning of this year so I only know her as Anna. When another WG asked who I was looking for, she was confused about who I was speaking about, attempting to verify if Anna was present. Perhaps she used to call herself by another moniker.
[QUOTE=AnonPlz88;2164790]I've read through many pages between the Oase and Sharks threads and a few times I read that Oase is more diverse in its line up (ethnically / racially) than Sharks. Is this still true?[/QUOTE]Still over 75 percent Romanian, perhaps higher. I guess with the smaller line up, the 2 Asian and 2 black girls technically makes a higher percentage of the entire line up.
So more diverse as a function of proportion? I think so. As far as total non Romanians available at Oase, probably has less.
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Moyla. Nice report. But I am confused about the 50 euro entry. I understand that if you arrive before 16.00 you get the Day Card for 50 but can stay as late as you like. You don't have to leave before 16.00. Am I wrong?
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Moyla good report. Can you tell us what Sherin looked like and her age?
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2165052]Moyla. Nice report. But I am confused about the 50 euro entry. I understand that if you arrive before 16.00 you get the Day Card for 50 but can stay as late as you like. You don't have to leave before 16.00. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]I understand Moyla is saying in his own way that from opening time until 4 pm each day the entry fee to Oase is reduced to 50 bucks down from 70 bucks saving the monger 20 bucks.
Of course the six entries for the price of four entries still works out at around 46.67 bucks so there is a small saving even there using the prepaid entry cards.
Seems like the deal of 6 for 3 is permanent as there is signing hoardings and flags displaying this prepaid entry ticket offer.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2165052]Moyla. Nice report. But I am confused about the 50 euro entry. I understand that if you arrive before 16.00 you get the Day Card for 50 but can stay as late as you like. You don't have to leave before 16.00. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]You are correct. Entering before 4 PM does not mean you have leave at 4 PM. You can stay till closing if you want to. Moyla either misunderstood the 50 Euro entry policy or he had to leave for his own reasons at 4 PM.
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Raissa
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2161634]
Raisa will rimjob you for a 50 buck deal. It is such that sometimes you have to ask her to suck the shaft as she is so into rimming you. Raisa stands alone from the other Romanians, has brown hair, but not the typical Romanian dark brown hair you find on the gypsies. She has a slender body, firm high natural tits and tanned. Make sure you go with her first if you have problems that she as rimmed someone else before you. Raisa starts in the evening shift.
[/QUOTE]Sounds familiar. Does Raissa have a slight Eurasian look (I'm thinking her eyes). If so, I did go with her on one of my trips last year and had good OWO culminating in CIM but wasn't offered a rimjob. I may well try her again next time which I'm glad will be as early as next week! All planned Tue. Palace, Wed Sharks, Thurs Oase and Fri will return to my favourite on this trip. I assume my Jennifer with the lips is not around. You teased me with a reported sighting last time!
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2165052]Moyla. Nice report. But I am confused about the 50 euro entry. I understand that if you arrive before 16.00 you get the Day Card for 50 but can stay as late as you like. You don't have to leave before 16.00. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]No, you are correct. Arrive before 4 pm, and you pay 50 E and stay as late as you like. I have done this many times, and the website still confirms this.
Two other discount options at Oase:
- Pay for 4 entries and get 6 entries.
- Pay 30 E for two hours (short stay).
The latter option used to be valid in all the opening hours of the club, but is now only valid in daytime between 10 am- 4 pm it seems (Source: website).
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2165092]
Of course the six entries for the price of four entries still works out at around 46.67 bucks so there is a small saving even there using the prepaid entry cards.
Seems like the deal of 6 for 3 is permanent as there is signing hoardings and flags displaying this prepaid entry ticket offer.[/QUOTE]Typo in my post below meant to be deal if 6 entries for 4 paid entries.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2165052]Moyla. Nice report. But I am confused about the 50 euro entry. I understand that if you arrive before 16.00 you get the Day Card for 50 but can stay as late as you like. You don't have to leave before 16.00. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]You can be right. I did not ask anybody because I had to leave before 16:00 anyways.
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[QUOTE=Moyla;2165341]You can be right. I did not ask anybody because I had to leave before 16:00 anyways.[/QUOTE]So that clarifies it is academic that you could stay past 4 pm as you had to leave before 4 pm.
The terms of the lower entry at 50 bucks is that it is for an all day entry to the Oase club as an incentive for customers to come early.
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Raisa
[QUOTE=BeWilder;2165127]Sounds familiar. Does Raissa have a slight Eurasian look (I'm thinking her eyes). If so, I did go with her on one of my trips last year and had good OWO culminating in CIM but wasn't offered a rimjob. I may well try her again next time which I'm glad will be as early as next week! All planned Tue. Palace, Wed Sharks, Thurs Oase and Fri will return to my favourite on this trip. I assume my Jennifer with the lips is not around. You teased me with a reported sighting last time![/QUOTE]Raisa looks very euro with slender figure, light brown hair and pretty face (to me), firm tight body and high positioned natural tits.
She is recommended like Anna who works the morning shift who gives a good service once you get past the upselling as she just gets on with it once the price is agreed. It goes to show each girl has a programme that the give every customer regardless of the price tag. The price is set at the beginning and you pay at the end of the session.
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[QUOTE=AnonPlz88;2164790]I've read through many pages between the Oase and Sharks threads and a few times I read that Oase is more diverse in its line up (ethnically / racially) than Sharks. Is this still true?[/QUOTE]Oase has proportionally more black and Asian girls than Sharks.
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I think BeWilder might be right though. Raissa's eyes does have somewhat of an Asian look to them. She used to work at Globe she says. Great service. No repeat from me since she is not totally my type, but she is pro.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2165558]Oase has proportionally more black and Asian girls than Sharks.[/QUOTE]Sorry but for me very few Asian girl, I live in Asia for 15 years, also if some they.
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How many Africans and how many Asians were there at last count? One of each?
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2165631]How many Africans and how many Asians were there at last count? One of each?[/QUOTE]In my four days there (Oase) I noticed 3 or 4 Africans, I like a black girl now and than took one from Ghana to the room, no complaints. I am not there often enough as Bituman is to compare total number of Africans in each LU on a regular basis but in my time there equal number between the clubs of blacks however IMO the quality of the Africans in Oase as a group blew away the Sharks. FWIW I do not always pick the hottest white girls in the house I often aim for the ' Eurotrash' and lower hanging fruits but when I go with an African girl I only do if they have 'good' looks. I would rank the Africans at Oase a 6.5 - 7.5 on a 1-10 scale and the ones in Sharks a 5-7 but there is one Shark with very long hair past her rear end who is quite pretty and blows away the rest in both clubs. So IMO the best one is at Sharks the best group at Oase for looks. To put things in perspective the Africans on the now closed boards in the USA resulting from an unwarranted attack on our Constitutional rights (prices tanked overnight though, I should not complain bargain fucking prices now) would rank as a 3-5 and 5 is being generous. For the above reasons I choose an African every third trip or so. Not sure on the Asian ladies in the LU at either club.
Enjoy.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2165631]How many Africans and how many Asians were there at last count? One of each?[/QUOTE]A little more.
Several Africans and at least one Asian but also several Asian masseurs. Although one of the Asian masseurs used to be a man.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2165127]next time which I'm glad will be as early as next week! All planned Tue. Palace, Wed Sharks, Thurs Oase and Fri will return to my favourite on this trip. I assume my Jennifer with the lips is not around. You teased me with a reported sighting last time![/QUOTE]No Jennifer seen this side of 2018 so be rest assured as opposed to be wilder.
I will look out for you.
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Sherin
[QUOTE=Moyla;2164975] She was Sherin.
After showering, I had juice and few fruits. Went to sauna. Apparently, only I was using that. Had some rest and a short nap. Then went to hall room. Saw two new girls. Talked. But against usual logic, decided to go with Sherin again. I think she could not believe that I will choose her again. We had eye contact 3 times, I laughed but she was staying away. At next eye contact, I waved her and she came over. Asked if she wants another session. Then requested to have sex in the kino. But she refused saying that public sex is not permitted in the new rule. I requested again, and she told only touching. Not more. I agreed. For next 5-7 minutes we were sitting in kino, both naked, she was touching my penis and pelvic areas in front of other girls and few guests. People were looking and I got more excited. I requested her for BJ but she denied. So, being little down, went to the room. I told her that, this time I want a very slow and sensual BJ, not sex and it is OK if I do not cum. She went right into the business. After 15-20 minutes, I requested to extend the session for 30 minutes more. She agreed. She was continuously sucking my dick. I felt sympathy and said she can take short breaks. I also asked if she wants anything, like licking / fingering in return. She replied in a very cold voice: "I am not your GF. I don't cum. I don't want anything. I only want your money. " I thought fair enough and simply said: OK. After 50 minutes of continuous whole hearted sucking, I was feeling like this session is even worthy of 200 e. So I said to her, for the last 10 minutes, do whatever you like. I think by that time, she was surprised that I had not cum yet. So, I think, she took it personally to make me cum. And the next 10 minutes were a heavenly mixture of BJ and HJ. She was trying very hard. I was lying on my back, eyes closed, mouth slightly open and trying to feel every sensual part of my body. Finally I came. Total time exceeded 60 minutes. But she did not stop. Although I said that, it would be OK if I don't cum, it seemed that she took personal challenge to make me cum. I came in her hand. I was totally exhausted and lying with a big smile on my face. It was almost 16:00. I ate some fruits again. Had sauna. And after a shower, came outside.
Guys. If you visit Oase, try to have some fun with Shyrin. You will remember the time.[/QUOTE]That was pretty harsh of Sherin to respond she did not you to please or pleasure her saying she will not come and did not want any of it. Thank you for the candid feedback.
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A few posters have lately suddenly turned extremely pro Oase. What is the deal here?
All the top girls have been around at least 2 if not 3 years or more (perhaps Ina or Lara has been here a bit shorter), so why the sudden change of people's interest? Is it just the loss of interest in Sharks? Or are there any new top talent at all? Looks same level as Carla, Cheyenne, Ina, Adelle, or May (now gone), Sarah, Andra (Athena at Sharks) Szanett (is she gone for good too?) etc? To me it almost sounds like the lineup is slightly down from 2 years ago, with Ina mainly bumping it up a bit. Or am I missing something? What is the fuzz about? And most girls still ask for 100? I skipped Oase for the first time in over 2 years on my Feb. Trip. Can I get some good arguments on why a return would be in place? Because as far as I recall, upsell at Oase and Sharks were about equal last I checked. Sarah for one refused another 50 e room even if she did go with me once. A girl had told her that she was a top girl. LOL? Adelle and Cheyenne tries to upsell too. Carla I haven't gone with yet, but I have a feeling she also upsells.
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Max one Asian and 2-3 black girls currently. Theresa and Jamila, plus Diana (Venezuela / DR).
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Trip this Weekend.
Hello all,
I'm planed to be in Frankfurt this weekend (Thursday to Saturday).
I didn't take into account the easter when I bought the tickets.
Does someone know or been in Oase the last 2 days and tell is there any influence on the line up?
I know that usualy there are about 60 to 80 girls every evening.
Thanks a lot!
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Taxis from Hotel Arkadia.
I will be returning to Oase again tomorrow and have booked a room at Hotel Arkadia. Is it easy to get a taxi from there to Oase or will I have to take the train to Bad Homburg first?
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2166010]I will be returning to Oase again tomorrow and have booked a room at Hotel Arkadia. Is it easy to get a taxi from there to Oase or will I have to take the train to Bad Homburg first?[/QUOTE]Train to Bad Homburg from Friedricksdorf in order to visit Oase by taxi? No way, don't even think about it! Just ask the reception at your hotel to call you a taxi, it should be about 10 euros from there to Oase (vs 18-20 euros taxi from Bad Homburg). Or simply walk 2 minutes to the S-bahn station Friedricksdorf and get a taxi from there. If you don't see one when you arrive, wait some minutes and eventually a taxi will show up, one might speculate within 20-30 minutes max! Taxis tend to time there waits at that station to correspond with the arrivals of S-bahn from FFM.
Hope this helps.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2161921]Hi Carlojj. Many times have the FKKs been compared to the big Spanish clubs such as Vive Madrid and Scandalo. Each have their pros and cons. Cost wise it's about the same. When you take into account entrance fees at FKK the 100 per hour for basic S&F and extras for lots more, it equals out. Spanish clubs are mainly nightime experiences. FKKs are both day and nightime adventures. FKKs where the girls are naked allow you to see before you buy. We've all had that dreadful feeling of seeing great bodies wrapped up tight in the bar in Spain only to see everything head South when in the room. But it happens in Germany too! It did to me in Oceans only weeks ago! The NRW clubs are not naked clubs (least the one's I've been to are not). Spain is, for me, a much prettier country than Germany, with a lot better weather. So outside of the mongering its possibly a better place. That said, as this is the Oase thread. Worth mentioning that summer here, sitting in the outdoors, beer in one hand, a girls ass in the other whilst she is giving you head, is not something you're going to get even in Calle Montero in Madrid! The quality of the girls in Vive is only rivalled in Switzerland and Brazil for me. Vive has possibly the most diverse offerings in the World. Genuine Latinos from all over South America, girls from USA, UK, EE, China, Russia, Thailand. Genuinely all over the World. In 2016 I had a threesome with a girl from Peru and another from South Korea! FKKs are dominated by Romanian girls. Fine for me. But not to every man's taste. Artemis in Berlin is maybe more diverse but has older, more PSE types than the Hessen clubs.[/QUOTE]Girls taking a dick in their ass is very common in Brazil, no need to pay extra for anal sex and uncovered blowjob in Brazil. You have to try Scandalo in Sao Paulo. There are girls for every taste in Brazil. From the whitest to the blackest and from the skinniest to the fattest. Brazil is a diversified country. But the budget counts for a lot.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2165772]A few posters have lately suddenly turned extremely pro Oase. What is the deal here?
All the top girls have been around at least 2 if not 3 years or more (perhaps Ina or Lara has been here a bit shorter), so why the sudden change of people's interest? Is it just the loss of interest in Sharks? Or are there any new top talent at all? Looks same level as Carla, Cheyenne, Ina, Adelle, or May (now gone), Sarah, Andra (Athena at Sharks) Szanett (is she gone for good too?) etc? To me it almost sounds like the lineup is slightly down from 2 years ago, with Ina mainly bumping it up a bit. Or am I missing something? What is the fuzz about? And most girls still ask for 100? I skipped Oase for the first time in over 2 years on my Feb. Trip. Can I get some good arguments on why a return would be in place? Because as far as I recall, upsell at Oase and Sharks were about equal last I checked. Sarah for one refused another 50 e room even if she did go with me once. A girl had told her that she was a top girl. LOL? Adelle and Cheyenne tries to upsell too. Carla I haven't gone with yet, but I have a feeling she also upsells.[/QUOTE]I stopped to go there since end of January, no way for me to return, right always the same girls, poor management, very rude staff, it is becoming Place number 2 in Frankfurt area, the girls control everything, as long the business is good for them and the club owners there is no reason to complain so many other possibilities around for me.
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Oase being flavour of the month / year
[QUOTE=Pistons;2165772]A few posters have lately suddenly turned extremely pro Oase. What is the deal here?
All the top girls have been around at least 2 if not 3 years or more (perhaps Ina or Lara has been here a bit shorter), so why the sudden change of people's interest? Is it just the loss of interest in Sharks? Or are there any new top talent at all? Looks same level as Carla, Cheyenne, Ina, Adelle, or May (now gone), Sarah, Andra (Athena at Sharks) Szanett (is she gone for good too?) etc? To me it almost sounds like the lineup is slightly down from 2 years ago, with Ina mainly bumping it up a bit. Or am I missing something? What is the fuzz about? And most girls still ask for 100? I skipped Oase for the first time in over 2 years on my Feb. Trip. Can I get some good arguments on why a return would be in place? Because as far as I recall, upsell at Oase and Sharks were about equal last I checked. Sarah for one refused another 50 e room even if she did go with me once. A girl had told her that she was a top girl. LOL? Adelle and Cheyenne tries to upsell too. Carla I haven't gone with yet, but I have a feeling she also upsells.[/QUOTE]I'm sure the regular attendees will be much better qualified than I to reply Pistons, but my 2 cents is as follows based on only one trip recently and having decided to return to Frankfurt this weekend and definitely doing Oase one night and Mainhattan (not Sharks) the next.
I don't like the layout of Oase at all, (up the stairs / down the stairs, into the lounge / downstairs to jacuzzi and food and outdoors / upstairs to return to bar etc. ⛰🧗*♂️You get it). I much prefer the flat layouts of clubs like Oceans (your favourite and a club I like) and Sharks (big stairs to rooms and upstairs rest but that's about it). But layout aside, I've previoulsy always favoured other clubs over Oase because I've found the girls too pushy in Oase, don't like that they only sell wine by the bottle (not glass) and with the exception of a few rooms, a lot are too hot, hate the plastic mattresses etc. So it was with a bit of surprise that before my last trip I asked forum members about LU only to find Sirioja say he thought current "casting" as he describes the LU to be slightly better at Oase than Sharks. Even though my previous last 3 visits to Sharks were not inspiring to me (I know I'm in the minority on that). I'the turned away from Hessen to trying new clubs. Loved Harmony, perhaps less so Atmos near Hamburg, one in Dresden, Paradise and Sakura (Stuttgart and Boblingen) and returning to Spain for mongering. In my last trip, following advice, I hit Oceans (you'll have seen my report) on a Thursday. It was good, Sharks on the Friday. Markedly better than last few trips but still too many "curvy" girls for me, and ventured to Oase on a Saturday feeling fatigued and not expecting much as my mindset wasn't great. I had the best night of my trip. I felt the LU was the best I'the seen it. I've only been to Oase maybe 14-15 times as a tourist over say 5 years. The incredible sight of the striking Catheryn (very tall auburn slim girl from Bulgaria. Hoping to see here again this Friday!128523;. But several others - 3 of whom I sessioned with and one of them for LT. The atmosphere was good despite the miserable receptionist. Food was better than historically, still bottled wine only but now sell half bottles, and the LU was for me at least good. I apply the old Syzergies mantra on LU. If there are 5 girls in a club I'the really like to take to the room. That's a good LU to me. If 2 of them are "stand out" who I will remember that's particularly good. I'the say 3 of the girls I sessioned with that Friday were memorable. Most especially Catherine for looks though her attitude is cool / bit cold. But there were far more than 5 girls I'the have been happy to room with and I felt I could have returned the next night and taken another 5 with no issue. I even contemplated 2 nights at the club this weekend. And asked forum members to tell me how much the VIP suite was to stay in. To avoid the costs of travel to and fro. But decided the $1000+ fee was not on! Lots of rooms for that!
I didn't get that much pressure at either Sharks or Oase to do 100/30 minutes. I had it from one girl at Oase. The cheeky Soraya. Great body and good service who demanded 100 for 30 after we'the agreed 50 for a normal "start" and her therefore surprising outrage after our session "only 50 for THAT service? 😂129315;128514; and my unfortunately bitter response "yes baby. Definitely only 50 for THAT service! Sure she'll avoid me this weekend!
I think we all know that LUs are very fluid. I've loved the LU at Artemis on occassion (even more stairs!) whilst other have hated it. My first few trips at Sharks I thought were amazing for LU. It went downhill for me. Recent visit better. I'm grateful to Kosher Kowboy for some tips on recent LU at Mainhattan. Hence my decision to give it a try hopefully (business permitting) on Saturday night. But the one club I was not going to miss out on this trip. Was Oase.
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Katheryn.
I've read a lot of good things about this tall auburn haired girl called Katheryn or Catherine from Bulgaria. Where in Oase does she sit so I can find her?
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Catherine the Great
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2166133]I've read a lot of good things about this tall auburn haired girl called Katheryn or Catherine from Bulgaria. Where in Oase does she sit so I can find her?[/QUOTE]She doesn't sit. She has two locations she favours: - main lounge to right as you walk in by the first post on the right opposite the bar. Or. Top of stairs by Jacuzzi. Doesn't sit. You will not miss her. Unless you are 6 ft 5" she will be taller than you! In heels she is very tall, without them for most of us. She is very tall. High cheekbones. Large green eyes. Not 10/. 10 on looks. She looks a little cold and her demeanor / dialogue is also a little Siberian! But she is a force in the room. Not for the faint hearted. No DFK. Not even for more cash. Though she does kiss. Limited. When she fucks you she is not, as one member here correctly deemed an "empty vessel". She takes control and is really strong. Probably to attempt to make punters cum in minutes and I three times in 30 minutes had to tell her to change position as I'the have cum too quickly and easily. And that's not me at all. She has strong muscles in her vagina and uses them. It feels great but she can quickly bring you to a finish if you are not prepared to be clear that you want longer. She is unlike any other women I've come across in FKKs. Tall, attractive, powerful and you won't miss her. Most guys appear to be intimidated by her and she was free a lot on my one visit when I saw her. Give her a try. I'm sure that if you've had several sessions and believe another jizz is not possible she'the get you there!
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Payforit: I never wrote Oceans was my favourite club (I think). It has had a top 2 lineup on one or two of my trips, but that has been among a select reduced number of clubs. Wellcum is my favourite club nowadays.
I just like to write a bit extra about Oceans here on ISG since it has too many haters here. LOL And I have found a few great girls there in the past few years like Andra, Alina, Eleny, Emmanuela and a few others. The club has serious issues with holding onto their top talent and most optics leave after a week or two. But most of the time the girls who leave, is unfortunately lost, and are not to be found elsewhere. So that part of it blows. And it comes from the lack of non-Turkish spending power in the club. Like last time I was there on a Thursday this new hot girl was working on her 2nd day there. She got 0 or 1 room all night I think. Her optics was a 9 (At the end of the night she came to me and said she would kiss and do anything after all. I was out of powder at the time so had to say no unfortunately. 2 days later on the Saturday I couldn't see her. She had probably left the club. NRWhas a big problem in that they don't have a sharks nor Oase club around where the girls actually make a decent amount of money. Aca and Samya is maybe the closest, but they do not compare. And most top girls who sometimes end up trying Oceans don't like the quality of the places such as Aca or to some degree Samya. I guess maybe DV attracts some of the same girls as Oceans though. But there upsells are even worse.
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Catherine or Kathryn the Bulgarian
[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2166133]I've read a lot of good things about this tall auburn haired girl called Katheryn or Catherine from Bulgaria. Where in Oase does she sit so I can find her?[/QUOTE]Catherine the tall Auburn haired Bulgarian was away for the Orthodox Easter period. She was sorely missed.
In fact a lot of girls were away. As mentioned at Sharks there was over 100-120 men and maybe max 30 girls working on a weekend. Oase was similar but with a little less men so the ratio was better but there were times when all you could see in the garden and in the jacuzzi area of Oase only men and no women.
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The return.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2166249]Catherine the tall Auburn haired Bulgarian was away for the Orthodox Easter period. She was sorely missed.
In fact a lot of girls were away. As mentioned at Sharks there was over 100-120 men and maybe max 30 girls working on a weekend. Oase was similar but with a little less men so the ratio was better but there were times when all you could see in the garden and in the jacuzzi area of Oase only men and no women.[/QUOTE]Can only hope she has now returned (headed there tomorrow) and that the LU is recovering now.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2165772]A few posters have lately suddenly turned extremely pro Oase. What is the deal here?
All the top girls have been around at least 2 if not 3 years or more (perhaps Ina or Lara has been here a bit shorter), so why the sudden change of people's interest? Is it just the loss of interest in Sharks? Or are there any new top talent at all? Looks same level as Carla, Cheyenne, Ina, Adelle, or May (now gone), Sarah, Andra (Athena at Sharks) Szanett (is she gone for good too?) etc? To me it almost sounds like the lineup is slightly down from 2 years ago, with Ina mainly bumping it up a bit. Or am I missing something? What is the fuzz about? And most girls still ask for 100? I skipped Oase for the first time in over 2 years on my Feb. Trip. Can I get some good arguments on why a return would be in place? Because as far as I recall, upsell at Oase and Sharks were about equal last I checked. Sarah for one refused another 50 e room even if she did go with me once. A girl had told her that she was a top girl. LOL? Adelle and Cheyenne tries to upsell too. Carla I haven't gone with yet, but I have a feeling she also upsells.[/QUOTE]Bitumen and Rogue Nation have both mentioned that Oase is excellent for Pro and semi pro mongers but not ideal for casual, novice, or 50 euro mongers. They are spot on with their assessments.
Oase has the luxury of having top lookers present in the same room and in a smaller space than Sharks. All of the hot girls concentrated in a more intimate setting makes the line up look more stunning. The girls are also more fun in the lounge and even better in 1 hour rooms.
Line up was impressive this past Wednesday, the first week after Orthodox and Catholic Easters. This weekend will be very good if Wednesday girls return and additional weekend girls show up.
Some top lookers I noticed this past week:
Isabelle (De / Pol) Borderline stunner. Very sweet girl and a perfect fit and curvy body with well done silicons. Busy all night, mostly with German / European clients.
Emma (Ro) Stunner (9+) with zero body fat and a curvy ass. Nice well done silicon. Formerly Blonde named Kim / Ella and sister of former Ellie who is at Globe ATM. She's a big upseller wanting 100/ half and 200/ HR. A few east Asians paid the 100. She might do a super basic session for 50 euro. Tries to impose Switzerland Globe prices in Germany. She did this when I saw her last year also. She was busy early with the Asian hoard but did not go to a room for the last 3 hours after the Turks and Germans turned down her many proposals for 100 e half hours.
Alice (Ro?) Beautiful girl next door face with great tits. They may or may not be fake but they look great. Always in long rooms.
Claudia (Ro) Now with extensions and skinnier up top, heavier on bottom. She's too skinny now but her ass still defies gravity. Will only go with me if she is my first room of the day because "you fuck too much."
Lara (Ro) Now with 90's-metal blond hair resembling Britney Spears. Best natural tits at Oase. Great manele dancer on the pole. She might be my favorite room at Oase, right up there with Carla.
Carla (Ro) Great fun size, all natural except maybe her lips. Caters to Americanized people. Very talented in the room. Talks a little too much about her skills; however, they are notch.
Cheyenne (Ro) Long time pro but sweet in the room. She seems happier working days. Now with blonde extensions.
Sara (Ro) Blonde, older, hot body with well done silicon. Is the super hot older sister to these girls.
2 Romanian Annas, one with natural tits and a big smile, other with new silicon and huge back tattoo. Both are blonde ATM.
One new plastic brunette with sillies and Botox but pornstar hot. I think she is German. She has the same look as the plastic Germans of Sharks and Palace. Her first day at Oase was 6th April.
3-4 super tight body teenie types. One being the anorexic, pale, school girl but hot.
Both Adeles still missing.
2 black girls. One is old, looks 40+. The other in her late 20's or 30's. Hot Jamaican girl was not present on Wednesday.
1 older Asian with short hair.
1/3 were fat, saggy, or too gypsie looking.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2166161]She doesn't sit. She has two locations she favours: - main lounge to right as you walk in by the first post on the right opposite the bar. Or. Top of stairs by Jacuzzi. Doesn't sit. You will not miss her. Unless you are 6 ft 5" she will be taller than you! In heels she is very tall, without them for most of us. She is very tall. High cheekbones. Large green eyes. Not 10/. 10 on looks. She looks a little cold and her demeanor / dialogue is also a little Siberian! But she is a force in the room. Not for the faint hearted. No DFK. Not even for more cash. Though she does kiss. Limited. When she fucks you she is not, as one member here correctly deemed an "empty vessel". She takes control and is really strong. Probably to attempt to make punters cum in minutes and I three times in 30 minutes had to tell her to change position as I'the have cum too quickly and easily. And that's not me at all. She has strong muscles in her vagina and uses them. It feels great but she can quickly bring you to a finish if you are not prepared to be clear that you want longer. She is unlike any other women I've come across in FKKs. Tall, attractive, powerful and you won't miss her. Most guys appear to be intimidated by her and she was free a lot on my one visit when I saw her. Give her a try. I'm sure that if you've had several sessions and believe another jizz is not possible she'the get you there![/QUOTE]Thanks pay for it for this excellent description of Catherine the Great!
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Cheap Charlie Wednesday night at Oase is catching on and starting to resemble the busy Cheap Charlie Wednesdays at Sharks. The club was 50-75 percent East Asian and Turks by 9 pm. About 20 Chinese and / or Japanese showed up around dinner time and the Asian hunters quickly ravaged them. The Turks followed and the rest of the girls along with the DJ flipped the atmosphere accordingly. It's kinda funny to see the rotund 60 year old German retirees prowling amongst the sea of young Turks and skinny Asians. Some older Germans even valiantly played along attempting to keep up with the girls as they shook their ass to Manele music.
Applying stealth from within this chaos, I inconspicuously squeezed in 2 excellent 1 hour rooms with Cheyenne and Lara.
Cheyenne is still going strong and doing well. She has been working the day shift and I think it is better for her. Gone is the cynical, frowning, and up-selling Cheyenne of 2017. Cheyenne of 2018 seems happier and has found her humor again; smiling looks good on her. She is now closer to 30 than 25 but with proper sleep and having quit smoking, she looks 18-20. She has been doing this job for a while so she has all of the skills to go along with a long time pro. Any petite girl who lets me bottom out (dick to cervix) the entire hour is a winner in my book.
Lara, oh Lara. She's a troublesome little upseller but we've settled on club rates after some battles. I admit to having overpaid her in our second room but it's been club rates ever since. She's a top 5 all time performer for me and she gets more vixen with every room. Her tits feel absolutely amazing and the rest of her body is what I imagine the men of Roman and Greek antiquity craved. She would be perfect if casted in Game of Thrones. Her voluptuous but slim body can also handle being bottomed out for a solid 30 minutes, although she politely reminded me that she is not a machine. Her BJ is unmatched at Oase in my experience. Perhaps her best attribute is that she told me exactly how she liked each sex act, giving me subtle suggestions to adjust my technique at the beginning of the room.
I'll check out Sharks this weekend and will see how much more Oase has closed the gap or perhaps has even overtaken it as the best club in Hessen.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2166161]..... She has strong muscles in her vagina and uses them. It feels great but she can quickly bring you to a finish if you are not prepared to be clear that you want longer. She is unlike any other women I've come across in FKKs.......![/QUOTE]This reminds me of a tall German blond who worked in Oase some years ago, named Sunny. Good kegel skills, the only FKK girl who made me cum in under 10 minutes.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2166340]Bitumen and Rogue Nation have both mentioned that Oase is excellent for Pro and semi pro mongers but not ideal for casual, novice, or 50 euro mongers. They are spot on with their assessments.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2165772] I skipped Oase for the first time in over 2 years on my Feb. Trip. Can I get some good arguments on why a return would be in place? Because as far as I recall, upsell at Oase and Sharks were about equal last I checked. [/QUOTE]I am not discounting the opinions of Bituman, Samson or RN as they all have in Germany much more time, money and experience invested in these two clubs and several others. None of them are casual or novice mongers so can only observe and base their opinions on such and / or conversations they have with ladies of which all three know numerous both in and out of the room. That being said they wear the shoes of the experienced they are not walking in the shoes of the rookie or casual monger. The latter are best fit to answer your questions as they are the ones playing ' Monger vs WG'; the vets mentioned here have already ' defeated' the upsell and are not going to be taken advantage of.
I have less experience in Germany than these fine distinguished gentleman but I would not consider myself a rookie and I also believe guys who come from other monger markets yet rookies to the FKK scene are better equipped thru experiences to ' beat the learning curve' a tad faster than Joe Blow who has never seen a WG and walks in to a club.
Perhaps some guys on here who have little or no experience and just went to one or both clubs can chime in and let us know how they fared.
I can only share my experiences of what I encountered in each club. I planned to go to Oase one day and Sharks one day last trip but ended up passing on Sharks and doing 4 full days at Oase much due to the fact I think Oase is a walk in the park getting what you want even for 50 e however many of the girls listed to the best of my knowledge are the upper end gals at Oase and are probably correctly evaluated by Samson and will probably not deliver great 50 e rooms or go at at all. For that I take their word with zero doubt as to their thoughts.
I stayed at Oase 4 days for a reason, shooting fish in a barrel. Not one girl tried to upsell me. All girls when I told them what I wanted agreed with no ' counter offer. ' The rooms were not rushed. All 100 e sessions I did were initiated prior to going to the room by myself or I upgraded in the room with zero attempts by them to up the checkout bill. At Sharks I also found what I wanted for the price I wanted but I did have to foul tip several curve balls tossed at me, drive up the pitch count until a deal was reached. Not impossible to do, I just did not have to deal with that at Oase at all. In fact the pitches tossed in Oase were almost slow underhanded softball pitches.
I do not doubt at all there are some big time upsellers at Oase, I do not discount the opinions of Rn, Samson or Bituman; simply tossing in my opinion and I have less experience in this FKK system than the three of them. I found there to be a big difference, big enough that I could even squeeze in the ruthless (yet beatable) greedy arrogant Colombian girls working in Panama in the middle of the two and although apples to oranges just showing a point to emphasize the large delta I experienced. The Colombian girls make the Oase girls (that I spoke to) look like rookies and pushovers yet they were no where near as aggressive as the Sharks. I personally found a big gap in the dealing between Oase and Sharks ladies however the end result was the same. I got the session I desired at the price I wanted.
Oase has been called the Flavor of the Month, posts clearly favor Oase over Sharks recently and IMHO if that is the case most likely more than not part of that is the ease of dealing with the girls at oase vs Sharks. Optics, size of LU and other factors also probably led to Oase being in this position but ' aggressiveness and attitudes' I am sure also played a part.
Pistons, I can not offer you a reason to go to Oase just offer my opinion to go along with the opinions of these other three and the reader can decide for themselves. Perhaps this will help you as to my thinking. The below should summarize my personal opinion although it may differ from others.
I have zero plans to go to Sharks next trip, I do plan to go to Oase. I plan to fuck the Oase Girls. As to the Sharks I will simply say for now ' They can go fuck themselves'. If I did go to Sharks it would only be to visit Mandy, Hana / Lucy or Domenica for different reasons and three different styles of service and they are three ladies I have seen several times who I enjoy the company of and I would never tell any of them to go fuck themselves as I love fucking all three.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2166372]Cheap Charlie Wednesday night at Oase is catching on and starting to resemble the busy Cheap Charlie Wednesdays at Sharks. The club was 50-75 percent East Asian and Turks by 9 pm. About 20 Chinese and / or Japanese showed up around dinner time and the Asian hunters quickly ravaged them. The Turks followed and the rest of the girls along with the DJ flipped the atmosphere accordingly. It's kinda funny to see the rotund 60 year old German retirees prowling amongst the sea of young Turks and skinny Asians. Some older Germans even valiantly played along attempting to keep up with the girls as they shook their ass to Manele music.
Applying stealth from within this chaos, I inconspicuously squeezed in 2 excellent 1 hour rooms with Cheyenne and Lara.
Cheyenne is still going strong and doing well. She has been working the day shift and I think it is better for her. Gone is the cynical, frowning, and up-selling Cheyenne of 2017. Cheyenne of 2018 seems happier and has found her humor again; smiling looks good on her. She is now closer to 30 than 25 but with proper sleep and having quit smoking, she looks 18-20. She has been doing this job for a while so she has all of the skills to go along with a long time pro. Any petite girl who lets me bottom out (dick to cervix) the entire hour is a winner in my book.
Lara, oh Lara. She's a troublesome little upseller but we've settled on club rates after some battles. I admit to having overpaid her in our second room but it's been club rates ever since. She's a top 5 all time performer for me and she gets more vixen with every room. Her tits feel absolutely amazing and the rest of her body is what I imagine the men of Roman and Greek antiquity craved. She would be perfect if casted in Game of Thrones. Her voluptuous but slim body can also handle being bottomed out for a solid 30 minutes, although she politely reminded me that she is not a machine. Her BJ is unmatched at Oase in my experience. Perhaps her best attribute is that she told me exactly how she liked each sex act, giving me subtle suggestions to adjust my technique at the beginning of the room.
I'll check out Sharks this weekend and will see how much more Oase has closed the gap or perhaps has even overtaken it as the best club in Hessen.[/QUOTE]Cheyenne is way better than Lara. I didn't enjoy 1 hour I spent with Lara and her BJ was average, she told me she can't do deep throat because it's too big which was just BS excuse IMHO.
Katy is my another favorite girl in Oase but she doesn't work a lot and In order to get good service from her you need to spend more than 100 euros. By the way does anyone know if she is back?
What's the name of girl who claims to be from Serbia but actually romanian? I spent 2 hours with her last time and spent 350 euros but it was great time, total pornstar experience.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2166340]Bitumen and Rogue Nation have both mentioned that Oase is excellent for Pro and semi pro mongers but not ideal for casual, novice, or 50 euro mongers. They are spot on with their assessments.[/QUOTE]OK, I guess I kind of like a few girls at Oase, so I am not going to sound too strict here. But LOL? This is comical ali rhetorics.
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KK,
The irony is just that 100 e sessions are all upsells by default if prices starts at 50. By calling other mongers fine gentleman might have a ring of class to it. A ring that may imply spending extra money. The problem arises when we got same for 50 e 2 years ago as we must lay 100 e for today. And it is some of the same problems at sharks that made some of us start getting a bit negative there. Nobody raises prices by 100% in 2 years. How about incremental increases?
And please lay of the 'pro monger' - 'rookie' talk. It has no merit here and works counter to your aim. If anything, it shows that you are trying to use a rhetorical trick to make a grey truth white.
I guess we can all agree that 50 e is a little low on the other hand. As I have mentioned several times, an increase to 60 wouldn't hurt. And the girls probably deserve that 20% increase.
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[QUOTE=Samcik;2166547]
What's the name of girl who claims to be from Serbia but actually romanian? I spent 2 hours with her last time and spent 350 euros but it was great time, total pornstar experience.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Alicia (not to be confused with Alice).
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Service-wise, the very top girls, for me, at Oase are Lara and Kati (and Veronica, whenever she decides to return). All of them provided a very passionate room. Lara is another stress-free girl where she doesn't give me any headache of not going to the room with her. She even introduced me to her friend Ada and Beatrice.
Kati still enjoys her time at home the last I talked to her and seems to keep herself busy.
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[QUOTE=Samcik;2166547]Cheyenne is way better than Lara. I didn't enjoy 1 hour I spent with Lara and her BJ was average, she told me she can't do deep throat because it's too big which was just BS excuse IMHO.
Katy is my another favorite girl in Oase but she doesn't work a lot and In order to get good service from her you need to spend more than 100 euros. By the way does anyone know if she is back?
What's the name of girl who claims to be from Serbia but actually romanian? I spent 2 hours with her last time and spent 350 euros but it was great time, total pornstar experience.[/QUOTE]"Serbian" girl is Heidi.
I have not seen Katy for some time.
Cheyenne is better universally, Lara must be tamed or paid in order to get her best. Lara's ceiling is higher than Cheyenne's as far as sexual ability, and that's saying a lot considering excellent Cheyenne's skills.
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Is this the same Cheyenne that used to work in Artemis a few years ago?
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2166161]She takes control and is really strong. Probably to attempt to make punters cum in minutes and I three times in 30 minutes had to tell her to change position as I'the have cum too quickly and easily. And that's not me at all. She has strong muscles in her vagina and uses them. It feels great but she can quickly bring you to a finish if you are not prepared to be clear that you want longer. She is unlike any other women I've come across in FKKs. Tall, attractive, powerful and you won't miss her. Most guys appear to be intimidated by her and she was free a lot on my one visit when I saw her. Give her a try. I'm sure that if you've had several sessions and believe another jizz is not possible she'the get you there![/QUOTE]Was twice with Katharina and will not repeat, found her a boring session with no DFK.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2166587]Service-wise, the very top girls, for me, at Oase are Lara and Kati ([/QUOTE]My session with Lara was not good, she is making my worst 10 sessions at Oase in the last 12 months.
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;2166682]Is this the same Cheyenne that used to work in Artemis a few years ago?[/QUOTE]She was Carla at GT and Globe, Darla at LR, also named Michele. Nice behavior, speaking few French words.
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Kathryn Bulgaria 180 cm. Now blonde! 150.7/9/7. Tattoo on torso. CIM.
Yasmin. Thin blonde. Very tall too. 180 cm. 7/9/7. 350 with BDSM stuff. Extras Not worth it but would repeat without the BDSM stuff. Made her cum with DATY.
Joanna. Iraqi. Sensual GFE. 100. Would repeat.
Andrea. 50. Suck and fuck. CBJ. Repeat? Unlikely.
Poor lineup today. Easter? Bit of sausage fest. Left around 2 am.
Did see Lara and planned to see her but got sidetracked!
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The last post of mine was just my scribbled notes after I got back from Oase Just so I wouldn't forget the girls names. I'll write a detailed report today later once I am checked in to my hotel.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2166516]I am not discounting the opinions of Bituman, Samson or RN as they all have in Germany much more time, money and experience invested in these two clubs and several others. None of them are casual or novice mongers so can only observe and base their opinions on such and / or conversations they have with ladies of which all three know numerous both in and out of the room. That being said they wear the shoes of the experienced they are not walking in the shoes of the rookie or casual monger. The latter are best fit to answer your questions as they are the ones playing ' Monger vs WG'; the vets mentioned here have already ' defeated' the upsell and are not going to be taken advantage of.
I can only share my experiences of what I encountered in each club. I planned to go to Oase one day and Sharks one day last trip but ended up passing on Sharks and doing 4 full days at Oase much due to the fact I think Oase is a walk in the park getting what you want even for 50 e however many of the girls listed to the best of my knowledge are the upper end gals at Oase and are probably correctly evaluated by Samson and will probably not deliver great 50 e rooms or go at at all. For that I take their word with zero doubt as to their thoughts.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words. You are correct that I am limited in my knowledge of some middle tier girls and 50 euro rooms at Oase. I trust your experience that you found great 30 minute rooms with the non name brand girls there. I do admit that I am restricted to what I consider top tier optics. I chose a while ago that I have a much better time at Oase when setting in my mind that I will do fewer rooms but for 1 hour, saving my 50 euro rooms for other clubs where there is less of a battle to find great 30 minute rooms for standard price. Being an experienced monger does not only entail knowing the prices and sticking to them, it also means selecting the right battles.
As such I have not had a bad room at Oase in over a year and a half. It is not worth the stress for me to fight the club trends so I let other more determined mongers do that. My train of thought is that if a club doesn't provide the service, optic level, or atmosphere then why try to force it. For me that's like going to a club like Mondial that has super cheap prices and being upset at the fact that the girls are second tier and that the club is full of 28 year old Turkish guys who act as such. I couldn't and wouldn't try to change that just because I want the club to be something it's not. Furthermore, considering the optics and the clientele, I think it is an exercise in futility to impose NRW expectations onto this club. One very pro monger friend of mine is a 50 euro guy who has nigh optic standards and has just avoided the club altogether for over a year. He seems happy with that decision.
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Oase II Part 1: Catherine the Great.
Oase 2 Part 1: Catherine the Great!
After a long and tiring day my flight landed at Frankfurt from where I took the train to Friedrichsdorf and then walked the few minutes to my hotel, Arcadia, which is one of two hotels recommended on the Oase website. After checking in I dumped my stuff and walked back to the train station where some taxis were waiting. A few minutes later I was back in Oase only a couple of weeks after my last visit.
My first impression was that there were much fewer girls than last time and a lot of guys especially a huge group of Chinese guys who, as always, hung out together in one group. I was a bit surprised given it was 10 pm on a Thursday night and the day had been sunny. Then I remembered reading on ISG about Orthodox Easter and the effects it can have on lineups. A lot of the stunners from my last visit, like Mady, were missing.
I did see some girls from my last visit who recognised me and came up to me but I just wanted to relax for a bit first. I had some of the food and hoped to catch more girls there too as it's a good vantage point. The dining room was full of a bunch of old guys and a few girls none to my interest.
After eating a small meal I went back to the bar area and saw one one of the girls I went with last time, Rina, on the way but she was booked so I said see you later. (One of my regrets from last night was I didn't get to session with her this time). But as soon as I came to the lounge I spotted one of the girl on my To Do list, Catherine the Great from Bulgaria sitting on the lounges opposite the bar. Her longish face and endless legs and height were unmistakable but she didn't have auburn hair this time so sat next to her and asked her her name and she affirmed it was Catherine.
-Where are you from?
- Bulgaria.
- How tall are you?
- 180 cm without shoes!
- If I go to the room with you will you kiss?
- Yes if you pay.
- Ok kann ich deine Muschi lecken?
- Eh? Sorry l don't speak German!
- Oh sorry can I lick your pussy?
- Of course.
- Yes.
- Will you blow me?
- Yes.
So off went Sybarite2006 with this model girl who towered over me. I'm not short but not the tallest either. She had her torso tatttooed with a rose and writing in Bulgarian. Her waist was thin and her butt was round and her legs were endless and her breasts were beautiful. Her face was attractive but not the most beautiful type for me. In my mind I was thinking wow she's so hot but her hair isn't auburn!
In the room was very good. Her sensual full lipped kissing got me very hard quickly along with the visuals. And then she began to blow me! What a BJ. After that she rode me cowgirl (my favourite position) whilst kissing me. Intermittently she would blow me again and drool her saliva into my mouth. Then we changed to doggy. I fucked her in doggy for a while and the views were amazing in the mirrors. This beautiful creature and I. Then we switched positions with her on her back with her legs on my shoulders. Then to mish and though I was close to coming I kept on reaching the edge and not going over. So I asked her to blow me again.
- Do you want to come in my mouth?
- Yes ok!
- So I laid down as she worked her magic on me and after a long time of her blowjob I could feel myself about to explode in her mouth. I came and she took my man juice in her mouth and then kept sucking. My toes curled!
We kissed after she spat it out and she lay next to me for a bit until our time was up and we chatted a bit. On my inquiry she said sh had changed her hair colour.
We went to the lockers and I paid her 150 and went to shower, drained, and then, spent a while in the jacuzzi.
My second room of the night was with another, tall, leggy, girl, a blonde this time, Yasmin. But that's for my next report. Stay tuned!
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2166738]Joanna. Iraqi. Sensual GFE. 100. Would repeat.[/QUOTE]Fake tits, speaking German with not accent, brown hair, usually hanging out in the main smoking lounge?
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[QUOTE=Hermann666;2166682]Is this the same Cheyenne that used to work in Artemis a few years ago?[/QUOTE]No, but she did work in several NRW clubs (she mentioned at least 5 different clubs to me iirc including LR, GT, Oceans.) for a few years with different names such as Carla etc. Perhaps she stayed the longest at LR from what I gather, but I am not 100% sure on time. I believe she has only been known as Cheyenne at Oase, and she has been at Oase for 3 years now. Cute and sexy girl for sure. Problem is sometimes she knows it. LOL I have said it before, but she is maybe one of the smartest FKK girls there are.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2166795]Thanks for the kind words. You are correct that I am limited in my knowledge of some middle tier girls and 50 euro rooms at Oase. I trust your experience that you found great 30 minute rooms with the non name brand girls there. I do admit that I am restricted to what I consider top tier optics.
For me that's like going to a club like Mondial that has super cheap prices and being upset at the fact that the girls are second tier and that the club is full of 28 year old Turkish guys who act as such..[/QUOTE]I think your first paragraph really says it all. I think at both clubs it would be hard to get one of top tier girls to the room for ' good service at a cheap charlie price' if even to the room at all and perhaps the Oase Queens are better attainable by the experienced for the best deals than the Queens of Darmstadt. I do not frequent the Queens so that being said I take your word on offering advise to where to best capture the Queens for the best value. As for me you are correct, I aim for good 30 min 50 e rooms with the non brand names although I do mix in 100 hours or upgrades to CIM. I can also be a little sneaky too (part of the fun) and off to the room I go with one of these ranted and raved about said Queens never to share the experience with others but those involve dropping more coin but than again I have to sniff them out at the right time (not peak busy ones) and 50 e can go pretty far especially when making my rounds mid-week when I find plucking them off the unemployment lines a tad easier.
This club Mondial you speak of sounds wonderful, something right up my alley, or better said my gutter. Thanks for the suggestion :D
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2166900]This club Mondial you speak of sounds wonderful, something right up my alley, or better said my gutter. Thanks for the suggestion :D[/QUOTE]30 euro entry and 30 euro for 20 minutes. The food is decent especially at that price. On busy nights, a line does form for girls as they grab and return keys so it's best to avoid those pm hours on prime days. It's one of a few of clubs that provide a Hamam massage.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2166900]I think your first paragraph really says it all. I think at both clubs it would be hard to get one of top tier girls to the room for ' good service at a cheap charlie price' if even to the room at all and perhaps the Oase Queens are better attainable by the experienced for the best deals than the Queens of Darmstadt. I do not frequent the Queens so that being said I take your word on offering advise to where to best capture the Queens for the best value. As for me you are correct, I aim for good 30 min 50 e rooms with the non brand names although I do mix in 100 hours or upgrades to CIM. I can also be a little sneaky too (part of the fun) and off to the room I go with one of these ranted and raved about said Queens never to share the experience with others but those involve dropping more coin but than again I have to sniff them out at the right time (not peak busy ones) and 50 e can go pretty far especially when making my rounds mid-week when I find plucking them off the unemployment lines a tad easier.
This club Mondial you speak of sounds wonderful, something right up my alley, or better said my gutter. Thanks for the suggestion.[/QUOTE]Let us come down to earth and reality, Mondial is not playing in the same liga than Shark or Oase, the girls are young and really behave like prostitutes no dream at all for me but some very nice experiences. The premises are poor and need a strong upgrade, very difficult at least for me to spend a full day there. Also very dark inside therefore difficult to see the girls.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2166900]I think your first paragraph really says it all. I think at both clubs it would be hard to get one of top tier girls to the room for ' good service at a cheap charlie price' if even to the room at all and perhaps the Oase Queens are better attainable by the experienced for the best deals than the Queens of Darmstadt. I do not frequent the Queens so that being said I take your word on offering advise to where to best capture the Queens for the best value. As for me you are correct, I aim for good 30 min 50 e rooms with the non brand names although I do mix in 100 hours or upgrades to CIM. I can also be a little sneaky too (part of the fun) and off to the room I go with one of these ranted and raved about said Queens never to share the experience with others but those involve dropping more coin but than again I have to sniff them out at the right time (not peak busy ones) and 50 e can go pretty far especially when making my rounds mid-week when I find plucking them off the unemployment lines a tad easier.[/QUOTE]Well done. This is what I consider a pro take on it. Not the pay 100 e all the time strategy. Now perhaps I and others have done a mistake at mentioning names here on ISG at all. It may buff the ego's of some of the queens. And that is bad for pricing. But a small tip is due where a small tip is due. Even off peak hours to support girls who give a little extra passion in the room.
I also sometimes leave the queens alone if they ask for 1 hour. Telling them that there are plenty of hot girls around. So I just grab a random girl in clear view of the queen and head to the room with her to show that she just lost money. In many clubs, the optical 8's are not really that much worse than the optical 9's anyway, and some of the 8's are superior in the room too.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2166881]No, but she did work in several NRW clubs (she mentioned at least 5 different clubs to me iirc including LR, GT, Oceans.) for a few years with different names such as Carla etc. Perhaps she stayed the longest at LR from what I gather, but I am not 100% sure on time. I believe she has only been known as Cheyenne at Oase, and she has been at Oase for 3 years now. Cute and sexy girl for sure. Problem is sometimes she knows it. LOL I have said it before, but she is maybe one of the smartest FKK girls there are.[/QUOTE]She had a terrible reputation in LR.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2166966]She had a terrible reputation in LR.[/QUOTE]Carla / Daria / Cheyenne. Did her at GT in her early days. 1 h including CIM for 100€, had a lot of fin with her. Fucked her again at LR, session was good. Then also at Oase, still a good session.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2166716]My session with Lara was not good, she is making my worst 10 sessions at Oase in the last 12 months.[/QUOTE]Pay her 100 for the hour and it works out great.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2166949]Well done. This is what I consider a pro take on it. Not the pay 100 e all the time strategy. Now perhaps I and others have done a mistake at mentioning names here on ISG at all. It may buff the ego's of some of the queens. And that is bad for pricing. But a small tip is due where a small tip is due. Even off peak hours to support girls who give a little extra passion in the room.
I also sometimes leave the queens alone if they ask for 1 hour. Telling them that there are plenty of hot girls around. So I just grab a random girl in clear view of the queen and head to the room with her to show that she just lost money. In many clubs, the optical 8's are not really that much worse than the optical 9's anyway, and some of the 8's are superior in the room too.[/QUOTE]Not mentioning any top girls on a review site and just call them all Eves. What a great point of view.
Well, more top optics girls available for me to give my 100 euro for an hour. 100 euro after 100 euro, Again and again and again!
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2166900]I think your first paragraph really says it all. I think at both clubs it would be hard to get one of top tier girls to the room for ' good service at a cheap charlie price' if even to the room at all and perhaps the Oase Queens are better attainable by the experienced for the best deals than the Queens of Darmstadt. I do not frequent the Queens so that being said I take your word on offering advise to where to best capture the Queens for the best value. As for me you are correct, I aim for good 30 min 50 e rooms with the non brand names although I do mix in 100 hours or upgrades to CIM. I can also be a little sneaky too (part of the fun) and off to the room I go with one of these ranted and raved about said Queens never to share the experience with others but those involve dropping more coin but than again I have to sniff them out at the right time (not peak busy ones) and 50 e can go pretty far especially when making my rounds mid-week when I find plucking them off the unemployment lines a tad easier.[/QUOTE]My one criticism with this is strategy is that it is a pauper's mentality. I go to these clubs to fuck like a king, be serviced like a king. I often sleep in cars in between visits so I understand being frugal; but in the club, I want to live like a young lion, taking what I want, when I want it. While in the club, penny pinching strategies and having to be opportunistic really takes away from the experience for me.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2166949]Well done.
So I just grab a random girl in clear view of the queen and head to the room with her to show that she just lost money. .[/QUOTE]Well done as well. Sometimes the Queens and / or greedy WG's in general need to be ' educated and trained thru observation' that involve the loss of potential Euros that could have been theirs. One greedy Shark once tried to talk me in to a 100 e session from a 50 e one while we talked on a couch and I would have done the 100 e session with her had she not been so greedy most likely would have extended in the room. Instead she watched me go to the room for 50 e with a girl seated very close to her yet I stayed an hour. The next day she saw me go to the room with the same girl again for an hour.
The next visit she got her room (agreed to at 50) and was paid 100 e at my choice when I shot my load in her mouth and she did not ask for a tip. Actually she ended up getting off easier, less time, spits cum in paper towel gets the same 100 e the girl who was not greedy had to work harder and longer for.
If I make it to Sharks soon I will find out if one of my staff members has been rehabilitated from observing similar.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2166881] I believe she has only been known as Cheyenne at Oase[/QUOTE]In her 1st year at Oase, she used 'Michelle' for a period. That was how she introduced herself to me the 2 times I sessioned with her. That could perhaps have been her real name.
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Is she called?
Elma or Alma? Big sleeve tat down the left arm? How come nobody talks about her? Super easy laugh, traditional good service? French / Ro? Top class BJ.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2166869]Fake tits, speaking German with not accent, brown hair, usually hanging out in the main smoking lounge?[/QUOTE]Yes spot on. Highly recommended by me. YMMV.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2166979]Pay her 100 for the hour and it works out great.[/QUOTE]Not even for 100€ did Lara perform well.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2166715]Was twice with Katharina and will not repeat, found her a boring session with no DFK.[/QUOTE]On March 2017, Bulgarian model type with beautiful green eyes, but too long nose for my tastes, kissed on 50 € rooms. When I went with her, she didn't try to upsell, but no woman sensuality, mechanical sex, so I did let her do, no need to spend big money, just kissing, being sucked, fucking, for 50 €, I didn't even take time to DATY her to drink her, because I found her not interesting in bed. Maybe she improved since then?
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2166979]Not mentioning any top girls on a review site and just call them all Eves. What a great point of view.[/QUOTE]Eve can be one name. But if we are pro we have one secret name for each queen. I tried to introduce this in the Wellcum thread when I named Cindy. Caramella. We can optionally call the girls car names: Adelle could be Ford. Cora could be Skoda. Cheyenne could be BMW. Etc. Then we could discuss cars instead of girls. And nobody would understand a thing because we could also switch out BBBJ with 'oil refill', fingering with 'switch' and anal with 'exhaust pipe' etc. And we could change out club names for petrol station names like Aral, Shell etc. Or alternative words. Of course different from these since then I would already have given us up.
Example:
'Bitumen, did you try cleaning the exhaust pipe on the Skoda before you turned the switch on? And don't forget to check on the oil levels. You might want a refill the next time you are at Aral.
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Post Orthodox Easter LU blues and oh that receptionist!
Headed back to Oase after one night in Paradise (not literally!) in Stuttgart (see forum).
Eagerly awaited a re-union with tall, auburn-haired Catherine (Bulgaria). Only had a 30 min session last time before being lured by blonde Alisha and then blonde Rosa. Arrived at the club early for me - 5. 30. Immediately struck by what I perceived as low numbers. The main lounge was almost empty! A few girls and punters but easily the lowest numbers I've ever seen at Oase and it was Friday! The numbers changed of course.
The receptionist (not the blonde one. The brunette with long nails and lots of make up. Who I'the like to room with) was as sultry but unfriendly as usual. "Your first time here baby?" No I say. I've been lots of times. Last time 3 weeks ago. "Yes I remember you didn't like the locker I gave you" WTF? Why are you asking me if it's my first time then telling me how good your memory is about me not liking the locker? 🤬; I was to have the last laugh. See below.
Quite nice to get to the club early enough to watch some of the night cast arrive in everyday clothes. It is quite remarkable how flattering clothes are. Not only for the girls but I suppose for guys too. A very fat guy in a smart suite can still pull it off. Take his clothes off and put a towel around him and he might not be quite the catch. So too it proved with several girls I watched come in who in the street fully clothed I would love to fuck. One blonde in lovely jeans walked through the dining area to go get changed and I thought "I'm pouncing on her the moment she comes out". 15 minutes later she appears and I'm afraid I was more pussy cat than tiger. Her jeans and loose top managed to hide a lot of excess weight. Not for me. This happened a few times. Indeed I didn't really see a girl come out naked looking better than they went in. Maybe I'm just too fussy.
Decided to head to the professional massage first. There are two ladies and the chubbier one gave me an hours massage which was frequently too rough. So far, not the best start.
Sitting in my favourite spot at the top of the stairs above the jacuzzi, lots of girls approach. They include blonde Alisha. Ro. I had a room with her last time. She is a very nice girl. Very impressive natural dee cups. A little heavy on the hips but a very pretty face. Wears red suspender belt and red nails (same as last time). Great attitude and I'm tempted but decide to see if the object of this visit arrives: Catherine.
After 30 minutes of touring the club at 7. 30 pm I can see that the Orthodox Easter has still taken its toll. Several girls I saw (and sessioned with) last time and others, are absent. No Rosa, Soraya, or Denisa. Latter says she is Spanish from Zarragoza. She speaks fluent Spanish but I suspect she is not Spanish. She did not know some Spanish swear words or slang! I’m beginning to wonder if Catherine the Great is still away, and was even contemplating a dash to Palace or Mainhatten, when suddently the vision of Catherine walks past me. Perfectly tanned, beautiful make up again but somehow the hair was not as impressive as last time. Bit spiked at the top. Didn't really get it. It was a minor distraction. Do I go with her immediatly or save her for my last room? I decide on the latter, sit back with a beer and am approached by the lovely Carla (Romanian). Pretty face, nice see cup naturals and a really good fun / banter style. She gives me an answer to a statement I made which will live long in my memory as one of my favourite moments in any FKK or brothel: I say "You are very cute. In the nicest way, everything about you is lovely and small. Small face, small hands, small nails, small tummy and small legs. " She replies "I have a big mouth".😂😂😂😂
I could not stop laughing. I confirm that that comment alone deserves a room and off we go.
Turns out she also has a nice small tight pussy which I decide I must try. Off to the room. We had an hour. She is not as adventurous as I like the girls to be but we had a great session. The sex wasn't anything to write home about but we laughed for nearly an hour. We just clicked and got each other's humour and as such it meant being sexy wasn't really on the menu. We were laughing while we were fucking. Perhaps she was laughing at how I fucked! 😂🤣.
So to the main event. I approach Catherine who is alone in the lounge. She appears initially hesitant. Last time we only had 30 minutes because she was my first room. We negotiate a price for an hour including everything I want. She told me last time she had no boundaries. I discover she was telling the truth. Into room 27 - one of the two big rooms (28 being the other) past the jacuzzi on the left on the way out to the garden. The rooms are too bright inside but are big with two beds in each. Much more space and not as hot. I always ask the girls to get one of them if free. I end up having 1. 5 hours with this sexy woman. Once again, after only 10 minutes I have to ask her to be careful with her pussy. It has muscles the like of which I've never experienced. I am near to cumming and explain to her that if I come too early she will undoubtedly lose money as I'm already thinking of extending our hour.
This girl will try anything. I have toys I take to the room including several that many of the girls initially look at in horror but warm to when they are having guaranteed orgasms! Some are not brave to try. Catherine is just full of curiosity and will give anything a chance. She has 2 strong orgasms and tells me she thought she’d seen everything in her two years here but has been surprised for once tonight. I’m smiling like the cat that got the cream. Pun fully intended!
We have an amazing 1. 5 hours. She clearly doesn't like to DFK until she gets very horny and then doesn't hesitate. She is really powerful in the room and loves being in control. I ask her about her incredible vaginal muscles and she confirms she does exercise them, and it is useful. In her job, if she can get a guy to cum quickly I guess it makes sense to avoid being pounded for hours. But even in doggy she can grip a cock like a vice. It's quite something. I'm fairly exhausted by the time we finish. I get a shower, some food, one for the road beer and am about to leave.
But I decide I cannot leave without a moment of fun with the sexy receptionist who barely ever smiles. Before getting clothed I go to her - "you want drinks token?" she asks. "No baby. I'd like to take you to a room please". She is not pleased! I think I'm risking getting barred from Oase here but could not resist the fun. She tells me she does not go into rooms. She is just the receptionist. I tell her I'm really disappointed at this. She is really pretty (true) and I've been saving her for my last room. How about if I promise to do an hour? 😝. She is like a volcano about to explode. I'm sure she is going to get security to throw me out wearing only my towel. I smile and tell her I'm only joking, that she really is very pretty and that its true I'd love to go to a room with her but I know she won't but just wanted to get her cross with me! And glory Hallellujah...... She smiles! 😁😁 Success! She says she should still be angry. I tell her she doesn't need to try hard to look angry. It comes naturally to her. She does not know if I'm serious or joking by now and I tell her she is very beautiful but her beauty is so much greater when she smiles (also true). I have a new friend!
I leave the club having enjoyed another good session at Oase, despite the numbers being low, and having acheived my objective to have a good long decent session with Catherine - who was terrific and with whom I shall most certainly repeat.
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Oase Part II Catwalk model Yasmin and others.
Oase 2 Part Il Yasmin / Jasmine and 2 repeat sessions.
After my session with Catherine I took a long soak in the large whirlpool checking out the girls as I relaxed. I spotted s very tall, thin, girl with the kind of Model body I adore and she had a mole under her cheek which I also like. I can't remember her hair colour exactly. Anyway I made eye contact and she smiled and came to me while I was in the jacuzzi. I told her I would like to session with her after I finished my jacuzzi. She said she would wait for me but I should be quick as she gets taken within a minute! After I finished I saw that she was sitting alone on one of the tables opposite the jacuzzi by the stairs. I talked to her and we went to a room with the initial idea of just a standard 30 minute session but including kissing and blowjobs how I like them. She told me she was half Romanian and half Russian. The session began with sensual kissing and I was hard immediately. I then began to DATY and I made her cum after a long licking session it's one of my specialities and I was happy to make her cum. Because she was so tall getting into the right position was a challenge though and she eventually straddled my face. He pussy was very sensitive afterwards and she squirmed when I continued to lick. She then gave me a great blowjob and seeing this beautiful creature DT me made me lose sense and I decided to extend to an hour. We then did 69 with some difficulties since she was so long legged when she had my dick in her mouth I couldn't reach her pussy and ass properly so she then lay on her side and we did it like that. I decided to ask her if she would do some BDSM stuff and she agreed and though that put the price up significantly I was too horny to care at the time. Suffice it to say I enjoyed being her slave and tasting all her various bodily fluids and her aromas! We also fucked with her in cowgirl and mish and doggy and eventually I came as she gave me a handjob blowjob combo. Would I repeat? Yes but I wish she would DFK and not jut LFK but I love also how open minded she is. And that body! That's what fucking a catwalk model must be like. So that was my second cum of the evening and as it happened my last. Yasmin, 180 cm tall, thin, Romanian, grew up in Germany. Model like body. 1 hour. 7/9/7.
I then had a pizza and took a rest before scanning the place for another girl. I saw Iraqi Joanna and went with her again as we have great chemistry after a while on the couches together. She is sexy and curvy and I love putting my fingers between her buttcheeks. Had another sensual GFE with her for 100 euros for the hour but I couldn't come much to her disappointment. She told me a lot of personal info about herself which I won't repeat but I really like her as a person too especially the way she says always, "Weisst du?" I could happily have her as a GF based on her personality alone. A very warm hearted girl.
My last session was a repeat with Andrea from last time, the dark haired Romanian with a curvy body and interesting face but this session was disappointing as she only did CBJ this time and I didn't come. A funny personality but not sure if I would repeat.
I was exhausted by now and decided to call it quits, leaving at 2.30 am back to my hotel by taxi.
I don't know when I will next be in Oase but I hope it is soon as I would love to spend a sunny day lounging in the outside area. If the next day had been not pouring with rain I would have changed my plans and stayed at Oase but it was pouring with rain all day and overcast so I took the train to Cologne for Samya instead.
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Oase comparison
Was there a few nights ago, blew 300 on girls and the rest I squandered.
Seriously, at RLD Frankfurt last night I had a barely 19 year old Italian girl from Milan. So pretty and young I asked for some ID, which she happily shared, and yep, 18 Feb 1999. EUR30, but because she kissed and moved her hips and used what I would call passion and smiles. I doubled it with a tip. Easily spent an hour for a quality time. She gave me a nice massage, and, get this, suggested we go out and get a coffee, which we did, and even exchanged numbers. Beats the pants off Oase.
I learned a lot from her about how the industry works and why the FKK clubs are infested with Romanians: basically she says they are more controllable compared to western european women. They live and work at the FKK's 24/7 like vampires for months at a time and are sought after by the club owners. They are willing to go naked and be told they have to appear on the floor rather than take a nap or break. I am not trying to sound like femnazi here, just faithfully relaying what I heard. The RLD walk ups are less sharky and more honest.
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An Italian girl in the RLD. Really. And you bought her story? She was Romanian. Which house, floor, room? What was her name?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2167200]Was there a few nights ago, blew 300 on girls and the rest I squandered.
Seriously, at RLD Frankfurt last night I had a barely 19 year old Italian girl from Milan. So pretty and young I asked for some ID, which she happily shared, and yep, 18 Feb 1999. EUR30, but because she kissed and moved her hips and used what I would call passion and smiles. I doubled it with a tip. Easily spent an hour for a quality time. She gave me a nice massage, and, get this, suggested we go out and get a coffee, which we did, and even exchanged numbers. Beats the pants off Oase.
I learned a lot from her about how the industry works and why the FKK clubs are infested with Romanians: basically she says they are more controllable compared to western european women. They live and work at the FKK's 24/7 like vampires for months at a time and are sought after by the club owners. They are willing to go naked and be told they have to appear on the floor rather than take a nap or break. I am not trying to sound like femnazi here, just faithfully relaying what I heard. The RLD walk ups are less sharky and more honest.[/QUOTE]I was told this by a Pascha girl once. Keep in mind the bias of the source and ask yourself, do you see any more Western Europeans in the RLD and Pascha than at the clubs? Nope. Those girls just don't like the authority and tell themselves that the other girls are caged animals to make themselves feel better. The irony is that they themselves are caged in a run down hourly hotel room living a miserable existence when the only liberty they have is the ability to run down to the corner store and buy more cigarettes.
Some clubs have more rules than others but Sharks for instance, girls come and go as they please. Take a taxi to get a meal outside the club as they please in the middle of a shift. Leave early to go home when they are tired or retreat to their rooms in the middle of a shift.
Anyway, consider the bias of your source and compare it to reality.
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2167012]Elma or Alma? Big sleeve tat down the left arm? How come nobody talks about her? Super easy laugh, traditional good service? French / Ro? Top class BJ.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Alma. Nice to hear she is back. I did mentioned her in one of my reports. Don't think she is French, try asking her about Paris. But she do speak French. If they are born in France then they are French. That's what she told me. She is a 7 compared to my other favs in oase. She is also a very fun girl for 100 eu.
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[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2167200]
They live and work at the FKK's 24/7 like vampires for months at a time and are sought after by the club owners. They are willing to go naked and be told they have to appear on the floor rather than take a nap or break....[/QUOTE]It's nothing compared to Alaska crab fishermen (and dozens of other excrutiating male-only jobs).
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[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2167200]Was there a few nights ago, blew 300 on girls and the rest I squandered.
Seriously, at RLD Frankfurt last night I had a barely 19 year old Italian girl from Milan. So pretty and young I asked for some ID, which she happily shared, and yep, 18 Feb 1999. EUR30, but because she kissed and moved her hips and used what I would call passion and smiles. I doubled it with a tip. Easily spent an hour for a quality time. She gave me a nice massage, and, get this, suggested we go out and get a coffee, which we did, and even exchanged numbers. Beats the pants off Oase.
I learned a lot from her about how the industry works and why the FKK clubs are infested with Romanians: basically she says they are more controllable compared to western european women. They live and work at the FKK's 24/7 like vampires for months at a time and are sought after by the club owners. They are willing to go naked and be told they have to appear on the floor rather than take a nap or break. I am not trying to sound like femnazi here, just faithfully relaying what I heard. The RLD walk ups are less sharky and more honest.[/QUOTE]It is your opinion but it is not from far my opinion, the roumanian girls are very clever they fuck for 50 euros but most of them will make you come in 10 minutes, also nowhere they can earn so much as in FKK clubs without any risk, the nice looking one earn easily 10000 euros per months some are close to 15000 or even 20000, also they can choose their customers, your Italian girl is being fucked for 30. In the clubs most of the girls are very free just because the club owner don t care if they make business or not as long they pay the entry ticket.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2167209]An Italian girl in the RLD. Really. And you bought her story? She was Romanian. Which house, floor, room? What was her name?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think she was Latin.
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[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;2167403]I think she was Latin.[/QUOTE]She was half Italian, half Latin, and half Gypsy. Duh.
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So I was wrong with my prediction that this past weekend would be produce a great line up in the Hessen clubs. Oase and Sharks were pretty quiet. It wasn't catastrophic but many faces were missing at both clubs and very few men filled the clubs, Oase especially. Oase maxed out at 50 girls on Sunday and Sharks had 120 on Saturday, numbers per reception. Fewer men and fewer women both made it so the women were not especially grumpy. The good looking girls still stayed busy at both cluns.
By midnight on Sunday there were only 5 men and 20 women in Oase's main lounge. From the looks of the key rack, only a half dozen rooms were occupied with perhaps another dozen guys spread throughout the club.
Despite this low volume, I still had a great time. When you start your day off with a poolside BJ, it takes a lot to ruin your day. Vicky, with a right sleeve tattoo happily proposed a 1:30 pm BJ in which I enjoyed it in front of 20 men and women cheering her on, "Go Vicky!" a couple of girls exclaimed. After a good warm up, I took a gamble on Jessica for a 50 euro room and sure enough, the room sucked. She was reasonably nice but was ready to leave the room in 15 minutes, her BJ was good but she was not so intimate during sex. On day 10 of a mongering trip, her basic suck and fuck just wasn't cutting it. After an attempt of a handjob, she wouldn't let me try to finish with sex even though we had 10-15 minutes left. Lesson reinforced, 50 euro rooms with a silicon girl in Hessen, odds are not in your favor. After calmly leaving the room, Beatrice saved my afternoon. After a half dozen games of naked ping pong and fending off a drunk Indian guy, we had a great 1 hour room. Her BJ was magnificent, kissing was good, and she was receptive and responsive during missionary, doggie, and lazy dog sex. I hear she used to be lazy but my experience with her was top notch.
Top lookers Carla, Emma, and Isabelle stayed busy most of the night but not as busy as last Wednesday. Claudia, Cheyenne, and silicon Anna were other top day girls. None were very busy. I saw Asian May early. In total 4 black girls were there that day. Pretty young Jamaican, 2 girls 28 yo+, and the constantly present old lady who is always frowning and looks over 45 yo.
Daniella was present with 3 other tall slim girls sitting at the bar most of the night.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2168078] I saw Asian May early. [/QUOTE]Are you sure? It was said she quit. You're not confusing her with the older Thai that's been there "forever"?
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May is definitely not working anymore.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2168127]Are you sure? It was said she quit. You're not confusing her with the older Thai that's been there "forever"?[/QUOTE]It's the older one. She's introducing herself as Mae these days.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2168078]So I was wrong with my prediction that this past weekend would be produce a great line up in the Hessen clubs. Oase and Sharks were pretty quiet. It wasn't catastrophic but many faces were missing at both clubs and very few men filled the clubs, Oase especially. Oase maxed out at 50 girls on Sunday and Sharks had 120 on Saturday, numbers per reception. Fewer men and fewer women both made it so the women were not especially grumpy. The good looking girls still stayed busy at both cluns.
By midnight on Sunday there were only 5 men and 20 women in Oase's main lounge. From the looks of the key rack, only a half dozen rooms were occupied with perhaps another dozen guys spread throughout the club.
Despite this low volume, I still had a great time. When you start your day off with a poolside BJ, it takes a lot to ruin your day. Vicky, with a right sleeve tattoo happily proposed a 1:30 pm BJ in which I enjoyed it in front of 20 men and women cheering her on, "Go Vicky!" a couple of girls exclaimed. After a good warm up, I took a gamble on Jessica for a 50 euro room and sure enough, the room sucked..[/QUOTE]Guys, I don t know where you were but I Was at Shark Saturday and the LU was very poor and around 5 PM ratio man to woman was at least 5, for me the feeling of a gay club.
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Thanks for the report Samson Monger. I would not have thought that nice and sweet girl like Vicky would do that in public. I also find that her heavily tattooed arm does not fit her profile. Seems like you had a nice day.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2168078]So I was wrong with my prediction that this past weekend would be produce a great line up in the Hessen clubs. Oase and Sharks were pretty quiet. It wasn't catastrophic but many faces were missing at both clubs and very few men filled the clubs, Oase especially. Oase maxed out at 50 girls on Sunday and Sharks had 120 on Saturday, numbers per reception. Fewer men and fewer women both made it so the women were not especially grumpy. The good looking girls still stayed busy at both cluns.
By midnight on Sunday there were only 5 men and 20 women in Oase's main lounge. From the looks of the key rack, only a half dozen rooms were occupied with perhaps another dozen guys spread throughout the club.
Despite this low volume, I still had a great time. When you start your day off with a poolside BJ, it takes a lot to ruin your day. Vicky, with a right sleeve tattoo happily proposed a 1:30 pm BJ in which I enjoyed it in front of 20 men and women cheering her on, "Go Vicky!" a couple of girls exclaimed. After a good warm up, I took a gamble on Jessica for a 50 euro room and sure enough, the room sucked. She was reasonably nice but was ready to leave the room in 15 minutes, her BJ was good but she was not so intimate during sex. On day 10 of a mongering trip, her basic suck and fuck just wasn't cutting it. After an attempt of a handjob, she wouldn't let me try to finish with sex even though we had 10-15 minutes left. Lesson reinforced, 50 euro rooms with a silicon girl in Hessen, odds are not in your favor. After calmly leaving the room, Beatrice saved my afternoon. After a half dozen games of naked ping pong and fending off a drunk Indian guy, we had a great 1 hour room. Her BJ was magnificent, kissing was good, and she was receptive and responsive during missionary, doggie, and lazy dog sex. I hear she used to be lazy but my experience with her was top notch.
Top lookers Carla, Emma, and Isabelle stayed busy most of the night but not as busy as last Wednesday. Claudia, Cheyenne, and silicon Anna were other top day girls. None were very busy. I saw Asian May early. In total 4 black girls were there that day. Pretty young Jamaican, 2 girls 28 yo+, and the constantly present old lady who is always frowning and looks over 45 yo.
Daniella was present with 3 other tall slim girls sitting at the bar most of the night.[/QUOTE]Cheyenne is not worth a cent, even she will pay me I will not go, she was in switzerland but was ask to leave. Good girl for tourists but you will never see a senior german guy going with her.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2168184]It's the older one. She's introducing herself as Mae these days.[/QUOTE]Maybe the older wrinkly skinny Thai's nickname is May and not Mae?
The older very brown and skinny Thai lady. She is had been at the Oase club a long time.
There is a number of Thai masseurs. There is even one that used to be a man. She is okay. I know a friend does not get on with the former man since she was ill mannered with him.
Many black girls. Maybe 4. One slim pretty one and one is small, slim but much older and she uses the sauna at the times when the girls are allowed to use the sauna which is one hour before closing time.
The other two black girls are ordinary which is how I would describe them.
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My God, Oase was paradise today. Easily 2:1 guys to girls. At one point our group of 4 were the only men in a room of 30 girls. Today probably saw a total of 75 to 90 girls and even more will come this week as the forecast currently predicts sunshine through the weekend.
It will only get better this week. With the great weather coming up, the staff was preparing the garden furniture for this weekend and cleaning the grill and outdoor bar areas. Spent the entirety of the daylight hours outside by the pool, playing ping pong, basketball, and football. Quality girls were absent early so I spent hours with Beatrice with her taking rooms with clients in between ping pong matches. Only high optic girls seen during the day Beatrice, Jessica, and Monica.
By 3 pm the night crew started to arrive. Lara, Emma, and Isabelle were some top optics girls. Sara, Nellie, Maddie, Alicia, Anna, Daniella and several tall model types were also present. The backdrop of gypsy types and chubbier girls were also scattered around the darker corners of the room. Speaking of darker corners, all of a sudden Oase has a lot of Black girls. 5 Black girls were present today and the Jamaican would make at least 6 on the roster. One short haired Asian lady was present.
Cameron Diaz Adele returns this week and along with best friend Carla will be up to trouble together soon.
I think I visited one week too early as these next few days will be the beginning of an Oase spring extravaganza.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2168078]So I was wrong with my prediction that this past weekend would be produce a great line up in the Hessen clubs. Oase and Sharks were pretty quiet. It wasn't catastrophic but many faces were missing at both clubs and very few men filled the clubs, Oase especially. Oase maxed out at 50 girls on Sunday and Sharks had 120 on Saturday, numbers per reception. Fewer men and fewer women both made it so the women were not especially grumpy. The good looking girls still stayed busy at both cluns.
By midnight on Sunday there were only 5 men and 20 women in Oase's main lounge. From the looks of the key rack, only a half dozen rooms were occupied with perhaps another dozen guys spread throughout the club.
Despite this low volume, I still had a great time. When you start your day off with a poolside BJ, it takes a lot to ruin your day.[/QUOTE]There really was not much of a line up. Many men compared to number of women.
The food was awful. I made do with the pizza. Number 9 Diavolo is the one that tickles my fancy.
Many Ottoman men and Italian men from Lombardy were present. One girl says it was Messe. The garden was full of men sunbathing.
There was men taking girls to fuck on the mattress in wicker frames in the garden. Nice to see public blowjobs and sex in the garden happening. The sun was warm.
Just like in the Kino there is still public sex. It's nice seeing Evelyn on her knees sucking Ottomans off in the Kino.
Some men went swimming in the pool. It was not so cold. A few laps and it's great to dwell in the water looking up at the blue parts of the sky.
The Oase cat was sleeping on the paving stones by the pool as it was so warm. It was lazy and let you pet it. No scratching today.
No DJ on Sunday. The DJ is Friday and Saturday.
There was:
Beatrice ro slim, great body and good service.
Anna with tattoos and new fake silicon tits.
Cheyenne ro.
Kathryn / Catherine BG.
Louisa maroc.
Carla ro.
Melissa ro.
Anna ro (blonde) evening.
Anna ro (black haired) day time.
Incognito.
Montana ro.
Evelyn ro slim, black hair with extensions and modest silicon boobs (does public BJ).
Old Thai skinny.
4 black women.
Many others I cannot name.
Adele (former Angie) and Claudia (former Aida) is not present this time.
A regular house guest said that Alexa the long the regular was away too. She is always playing volleyball or table tennis in the garden. Also the table football too. Carla likes to play the table football. She is so cute when she does play.
Since there was so many men the women were doing a roaring trade. Even the over weight (fat) and not so good looking girls were making good business. I don't think there was a single girl who did not make money. No girl I think should be complaining that they did not make entrance fee money.
There were many men grabbing girls as they came out of the ladies changing room. Guys were staking them out by sitting in the dining room or on the high chairs on the mezzanine level above the jacuzzi area.
Later on in the night it got quieter. It is surprising how many men stay to closing time. There was a congregation of men waiting outside the entrance way at closing time.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2168774]There really was not much of a line up. Many men compared to number of women.
The food was awful. I made do with the pizza. Number 9 Diavolo is the one that tickles my fancy.
Many Ottoman men and Italian men from Lombardy were present. One girl says it was Messe. The garden was full of men sunbathing.
There was men taking girls to fuck on the mattress in wicker frames in the garden. Nice to see public blowjobs and sex in the garden happening. The sun was warm.
Just like in the Kino there is still public sex. It's nice seeing Evelyn on her knees sucking Ottomans off in the Kino.
Some men went swimming in the pool. It was not so cold. A few laps and it's great to dwell in the water looking up at the blue parts of the sky.
The Oase cat was sleeping on the paving stones by the pool as it was so warm. It was lazy and let you pet it. No scratching today.
No DJ on Sunday. The DJ is Friday and Saturday.
There was:.[/QUOTE]Good to hear that my Saturday intel was wrong. A monger left Oase at 8 pm on Saturday and showed up AR Sharks at 9 pm. Perhaps he left too early.
That would make a strong week for Oase with many girls returning. I only know of Claudia who is taking a short break.
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Bitumen,
Apparently I cannot read well as you said the line up was not so good Saturday. It was nice on Tuesday and should be better on Wednesday.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2168774]There really was not much of a line up. Many men compared to number of women.
The food was awful. I made do with the pizza. Number 9 Diavolo is the one that tickles my fancy.
Many Ottoman men and Italian men from Lombardy were present. One girl says it was Messe. The garden was full of men sunbathing.
There was men taking girls to fuck on the mattress in wicker frames in the garden. Nice to see public blowjobs and sex in the garden happening. The sun was warm.
Just like in the Kino there is still public sex. It's nice seeing Evelyn on her knees sucking Ottomans off in the Kino.
Some men went swimming in the pool. It was not so cold. A few laps and it's great to dwell in the water looking up at the blue parts of the sky..[/QUOTE]What you are describing is exactly what I hate in a club, far better to go to a brothel just because oase is also a brothel when the ratio man to woman is like this but the Turkish guys don t care. Oase is really becoming a big big cheating club.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2168768]My God, Oase was paradise today.
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By 3 pm the night crew started to arrive. Lara, Emma, and Isabelle were some top optics girls. Sara, Nellie, Maddie, Alicia, Anna, Daniella and several tall model types were also present..[/QUOTE]Which Lara you refer to? Is it new Lara, or blonde natural Lara (ro) with the blue eyes who was taking break previously?
Also, what about the natural tall blonde Adelina (SP?) with her hair cut to just above shoulders? She is maybe looking slightly like Taylor Swift, very cute. She is still at Oase?
Thanking you.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2168761]Maybe the older wrinkly skinny Thai's nickname is May and not Mae?
The older very brown and skinny Thai lady. She is had been at the Oase club a long time.
There is a number of Thai masseurs. There is even one that used to be a man. She is okay. I know a friend does not get on with the former man since she was ill mannered with him.
Many black girls. Maybe 4. One slim pretty one and one is small, slim but much older and she uses the sauna at the times when the girls are allowed to use the sauna which is one hour before closing time.
The other two black girls are ordinary which is how I would describe them.[/QUOTE]Why do they get a tranny massage provider? More over, she spend half the morning giving massage for free or getting it from the old Thai prostitute, so even if you want to go, you can't.
Must refresh the massage girls!
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Inquiry: Germany FKK vs. Ukraine.
I went to Germany (FKK, oase, Sharks), Thailand, and Tijuana MX. Generally, my preference is FKK Thailand Tijuana. I like Germany because it is pretty safe and everything is in order. In particular, there are a lot of pretty girls (though most of them are from Romania, which I don't care).
I also know many people like to go to Ukraine. I'm hesitant with it since I know neither Russian nor Ukrainian. But on the other hand, Ukr girls are very beautiful and it is a mysterious country.
What will you choose between Germany FKK and Ukraine? Any comments?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2169547]Which Lara you refer to? Is it new Lara, or blonde natural Lara (ro) with the blue eyes who was taking break previously?
Also, what about the natural tall blonde Adelina (SP?) with her hair cut to just above shoulders? She is maybe looking slightly like Taylor Swift, very cute. She is still at Oase?
Thanking you.[/QUOTE]Only one Lara. She will insist that she is Lara not Laura.
Curvy with perfect natural tits. She changes her hair constantly. Right now it is brown.
Only Adalina I know is the dyed red hair girl who works day shift. She's terrible.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2168768]My God, Oase was paradise today. Easily 2:1 guys to girls. At one point our group of 4 were the only men in a room of 30 girls. Today probably saw a total of 75 to 90 girls and even more will come this week as the forecast currently predicts sunshine through the weekend.
It will only get better this week. With the great weather coming up, the staff was preparing the garden furniture for this weekend and cleaning the grill and outdoor bar areas. Spent the entirety of the daylight hours outside by the pool, playing ping pong, basketball, and football. Quality girls were absent early so I spent hours with Beatrice with her taking rooms with clients in between ping pong matches. Only high optic girls seen during the day Beatrice, Jessica, and Monica..[/QUOTE]Sounds Interesting.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2169616]Why do they get a tranny massage provider? More over, she spend half the morning giving massage for free or getting it from the old Thai prostitute, so even if you want to go, you can't.
Must refresh the massage girls![/QUOTE]No idea why there is a tranny masseur.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2169646]Only one Lara. She will insist that she is Lara not Laura.
Curvy with perfect natural tits. She changes her hair constantly. Right now it is brown.
Only Adalina I know is the dyed red hair girl who works day shift. She's terrible.[/QUOTE]Ah, then I know you are refer to a newer Lara is at Oase, but not petite blonde blue eyes Laura.
Perhaps I meant Adele or Adelina. Some have call her Cameron Diaz, but I think she is more Taylor Swift look. She is tall in heels, very pretty face, shorter blonde hair, sometimes wearing pink t-shirt like from 80's style. She have retired from Oase or no?
Thank.
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2169914]Ah, then I know you are refer to a newer Lara is at Oase, but not petite blonde blue eyes Laura.
Perhaps I meant Adele or Adelina. Some have call her Cameron Diaz, but I think she is more Taylor Swift look. She is tall in heels, very pretty face, shorter blonde hair, sometimes wearing pink t-shirt like from 80's style. She have retired from Oase or no?
Thank.[/QUOTE]This Lara has been around for about 2 years. Not blue eyes. I have not seen blonde-blue eye Laura in at least 6 months.
If you meant Adele that looks like Cameron Diaz, she just returned this past week.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2169976] have not seen blonde-blue eye Laura in at least 6 months.[/QUOTE]Laura Livia? Sister of Juicy? Baby break. Might return soon for a short stint.
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My first Oase experience.
Took the train to the Bad Homburg station to grab a taxi to Oase. The trip from Frankfurt Main to Bad Homburg went smooth and fairly quick.
Compared to The Palace, Oase is a much nicer looking club. The weather was awesome so we were outside getting sunburned for the whole day. I met up with Kosher_Kowboy who gave me the lay of the land on the FKK clubs, especially his favorite Dietz. He introduce me to a few of his friends he was hanging with and it made for a fun day.
I arrived at 11:30 AM and the line up was a bit light but there were some hot girls around. I had already expected the 100 euro rooms was going to be the norm which turned out to be the case. I managed to bang 6 girls this day and had a great time with all. Hanging outside with all the hot naked girls around and playing in the pool is an awesome experience.
I walked around the club for a bit to see who was around and then I went outside where I was approached by a couple of girls holding hands and looking for a threesome. They were both hot and one was a really tall blond who was really skinny with nice tits but she had a sore on the left side of her mouth so I was a little concerned about herpes so I was not interested in her. Her friend was more petite and wearing a blue half shirt. Most of the girls were not wearing clothes so I am not sure why she was wearing a shirt but I could see her perky nipples on the end of those big breasts so I was sold. I took her to the room and really enjoyed her wonderful breasts. Her nipples were a bit larger than I like but they still had a wonderful bounce during sex so I had a great time. First 100 euro session in the books.
It was after this girl I was able to find Kosher_Kowboy and his friends to hang out with. Oase has a nice breakfast spread out for everyone to enjoy. Dinner came out at 5:00 and it was very good as well.
My second room was a brunette around 5'5" who also had a great rack one her. She was an awesome experience and was a great kisser. She really cared about making me happy. It is so nice to find a girl who actually cares that you are having a good time. She went to town on the BBBJ and giving me a nice ball wash so this was one of my favorites of the day.
After the session I washed up and then went back out by the pool. I enjoyed watching the naked girls running around and playing in the pool. There were naked girls playing Ping Pong. Pure Heaven watching all those tits bouncing around all day. As it got hotter the action on the lounge / beds around the yard started heating up as well. We saw multiple people getting BJ's and having sex outside on the beds. I had a girl come ask to sit with me and I said OK. She is not really my type as she had really large bolt ONS and artificially inflated lips but she seemed nice. She slowly worked her way to laying on top of me naked which was very nice. She asked if I wanted to go lay on one of the beds in the garden so I thought, what the hell I'll go hang out but I wasn't going to pay for it. She was very handsy and nice to hang with for free but the fake tits don't do it for me. We went to lay down on the bed and she started kissing me really passionately and I started getting turned on about the idea of doing it in public so I thought why not go for it. You only live once. I negotiated for a 50 Euro session and she started with a great BBBJ followed by covered FS with her on top of me. I then stood in the grass and banged her doggy style with her kneeling on the lounge / bed. Finally we did missionary. It was pretty hot out and I was sweating my balls off so I figured there is no way I will cum being so hot so I told her that was enough. I figured I would save it for someone more my type but she was a great girl. I really took her for the public sex. The only issue with her was really the tits for me. I love the feel of a big pair of real tits slapping against me so that is usually what it takes to really get me going. Kosher_Kowboy enjoyed her services later and had a good session as well.
While hanging by the pool I saw 2 girls that just came in heading out to a bed at the back of the garden to sunbathe nude and both of them had bodies to die for. I took a stroll around the yard to get a better look and they were both really hot from what I could tell. It did not seem that they were looking for company so I let them be figuring I would see them later. After a while they disappeared and I spent the rest of the day trying to find them. Dammit!
There was a girl in the middle here somewhere that my shitty memory made me forget but it was another good 100 Euro room. I just cannot remember the girl. It sucks getting old and I'm not even 50 yet.
After it started getting late and the girls worked their way back indoors I was hanging around the cinema checking everyone out and a girl came up and asked to sit with me. I said OK but was not that interested in doing a room with her. The body was very nice with good tits but her face was not as attractive as some of the others. She was not bad looking maybe a 6 or 7 with a good body but she started kissing my neck and ear and then my lips and working her hand under my robe and she persuaded me to go for a room. She was a lot of fun and a great room and I got her for only 50 Euros. This is one advantage of taking a girl that is not a 9 or 10, you can get a great session for half the price with all the goodness of a hundred Euro session. BBBJ and a lot of kissing and cuddling all for 50, not bad.
After the last session I was pretty drained and feeling tired so I went back in the cinema to hang out with KK and relax a while. I did not think I could do another room as I was pretty beat from a long day in the sun and rooms. Of course, now is the time I find heaven. The girl that was sunbathing on the bed earlier is now sitting in the cinema in all her goddess like glory. This has to be one of the hottest girls I have EVER seen and I have banged a couple Playboy playmates in the past. She is sitting there with a cute little tie around her neck like a present that was wrapped up just for me. She saw me looking at her and waved to see if she could come sit with me. I had to pick my tongue up off the floor and roll it up to put it back in my mouth and somehow manage to close my mouth. As she was walking over I wiped all of the drool from my mouth and said Hello,. She was really sweet to talk to and I thought this girl is the whole package. Everything about her was perfect from her HUGE breasts that hung just right with a nice slope at the top to her sweet voice that sounded like angels singing. LOL She was really the perfect girl to me. On a scale of 1 to 10 she would be a 15. I knew there was no way I was going to be able to cum again but I had to take her to a room. We did have a great session with me getting plenty of hands on and mouth on those enormous wonderful breasts. She gave a great BBBJ while I stared into her wonderful face. She had hair that was maybe a little longer than shoulder length and had a different sort of cut from most other girls and it framed her face just perfectly. I would love to take her home with me. UGH After banging for a while I was sweating to death from the room being so darn hot, a common problem at all of the clubs from what I can tell so I wasn't able to cum which I kind of expected but it was a great session. I guess you get the idea that I liked this girl. LOL I asked if she would be there on Sunday as I would probably be going back and would love to see her again.
Tomorrow I am going to Dietz with Kosher_Kowboy so it should be an interesting day.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2170076]Laura Livia? Sister of Juicy? Baby break. Might return soon for a short stint.[/QUOTE]Any idea when? And is Juicy currently in Oase. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=CpHowdy;2170289]I arrived at 11:30 AM and the line up was a bit light but there were some hot girls around. I had already expected the 100 euro rooms was going to be the norm which turned out to be the case. ...[/QUOTE]100 euro room for 30 min is not normal my friend. Should only be 50 euro for 30 min. Which girls trick you for pay 100 euro / 30 min?
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2169914]
Perhaps I meant Adele or Adelina. Some have call her Cameron Diaz, but I think she is more Taylor Swift look. She is tall in heels, very pretty face, shorter blonde hair, sometimes wearing pink t-shirt like from 80's style. She have retired from Oase or no?
.[/QUOTE]Adele is definitely more of a Cameron Diaz than Taylor Swift lookalike. Had the pleasure of her services on Thursday. She was wearing a blue 80's style t-shirt this time.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2170353]Any idea when? And is Juicy currently in Oase. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I think she is. I noticed an attractive girl and asked a friend who she was and he said her name was ' Juicy'.
Hope that helps.
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Didn't see Juicy this week on my visit.
At CPH: Names would be very helpful plus a description of the girls to identify them. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2170474]Didn't see Juicy this week on my visit.
At CPH: Names would be very helpful plus a description of the girls to identify them. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Juicy was seen very recently indeed (this last week).
I decided to try Naomi from Cuba with a rather exotic face and blue-black hair. Pretty face and good body. No upsell whatsoever. Kissing from the get go but not so keen to put the tongue in.
Very nice fuck in doggy position. She does ball licking nicely. Overall I was quite happy with the chemistry and she could become a regular. Surprisingly good English for a Cuban. Rivals Diana for a pretty face black girl, where most do not. Naomi was tall and all natural, no saggy bits. Not the one with huge tits but was prettier.
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FKK Oase- Feb 2018.
Went out in the sticks to FKK Oasease. De / en / It's out in the middle of nowhere, but easy to find once I'd worked out the shitty Satnav in my hire car. Same deal money wise, but just 70 Euros to get in. This place was much bigger and despite some awkward corridors also has a big outdoor section with pool, bar and all sorts. The weather was still good, sunny and warm so spent some time out there relaxing as well as in the large indoor jacuzzi which was good for watching the girls come by from the main bar and kino area to the balcony and their changing rooms, plus the lighting is normal there.
Spent about 6 hours there with three punts, had lunch and dinner on the free food, which was OK. Probably about 40 to 50 girls there by the time I left. First punt was with a petite good looking blond Eastern European, probably Romanian like a lot of the girls there actually are, despite what they say. Service was OK, about what you'd expect for 50 Euros, but she faffed about with her phone early on before the action which dampened the mood. No real complaints for the money, plus she was fit.
Lengthy break for round two and made a mistake, hooked up with this brunette in the bar, but was disappointed in normal light. More of a 5 than the 8 or so's I'd seen previously. Service was OK.
Another break, plenty of chat and stuff and ended up with a tight blond with nice enhanced boobs and great arse. Finally reminded me of Keri Sable. Anyway we hooked up in the public kino area where she proceeded to give me OWO to a CIM finish, a couple of her friends where watching. Saw a very cute girl start a little later on, but she was busy instantly and I decided to call it a day.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2170353]Any idea when? And is Juicy currently in Oase. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Early May.
Juicy started working again on Saturday strutting her small ass and pale skinned slim body.
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Juicy.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2170353]Any idea when? And is Juicy currently in Oase. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Thank you for reminding me of her name but yes Juicy is still there as I spent some time on one of the outside beds at the back of the yard with her yesterday 4/22. She was very nice to talk to and a fun time. The boobs are a bit small for my liking but we clicked personality wise so I took her to the back of the yard.
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Juicy
CPH, Bitumen, Nympholepsy, KK,
Thanks for the info. Can't wait for Laura to return so that I can have threesome with the 2 sisters again.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2171376]CPH, Bitumen, Nympholepsy, KK,
Thanks for the info. Can't wait for Laura to return so that I can have threesome with the 2 sisters again.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I know Laura has said she is up for lesbian with her sister. She says it is only work and it's just another pussy to lick.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2171378]Yeah. I know Laura has said she is up for lesbian with her sister. She says it is only work and it's just another pussy to lick.[/QUOTE]I am not into wasting 100 euros to see lesbian show. I had always stuck to just having both of them servicing me at the same time. They work very well as a pair. Or maybe I have a psychological problem of enjoying having a girl seeing her sister fucked.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2170929]Early May.
Juicy started working again on Saturday strutting her small ass and pale skinned slim body.[/QUOTE]Is Juicy the super skinny pale girl who walks with her hips prominently forward? Brunette with shoulder length hair?
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2171541]Is Juicy the super skinny pale girl who walks with her hips prominently forward? Brunette with shoulder length hair?[/QUOTE]Juicy works in day team, not so young, small tits, a bit orange hair, very slim, 1,60. Nice behavior, speak a bit of french. Since long time at Oase.
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[QUOTE=MumbaiFun1;2170738]Went out in the sticks to FKK Oasease. De / en / It's out in the middle of nowhere, but easy to find once I'd worked out the shitty Satnav in my hire car. Same deal money wise, but just 70 Euros to get in. This place was much bigger and despite some awkward corridors also has a big outdoor section with pool, bar and all sorts. The weather was still good, sunny and warm so spent some time out there relaxing as well as in the large indoor jacuzzi which was good for watching the girls come by from the main bar and kino area to the balcony and their changing rooms, plus the lighting is normal there.
Spent about 6 hours there with three punts, had lunch and dinner on the free food, which was OK. Probably about 40 to 50 girls there by the time I left. First punt was with a petite good looking blond Eastern European, probably Romanian like a lot of the girls there actually are, despite what they say. Service was OK, about what you'd expect for 50 Euros, but she faffed about with her phone early on before the action which dampened the mood. No real complaints for the money, plus she was fit.
Lengthy break for round two and made a mistake, hooked up with this brunette in the bar, but was disappointed in normal light. More of a 5 than the 8 or so's I'd seen previously. Service was OK..[/QUOTE]I could not remember that the entry fee was 70 euros, before I was always coming at 10 AM so 50 euros, 70 euros is a lot too much for such a cheating club, but for tourists it is still okay specially for the Indian guys who are used to very poor P6 in India sorry I know what I am speaking about I lived in Hyderabad from 2011 to 2015.
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This old Oase promo video is too good to not share:
[URL]https://youtu.be/hJHiHdDQJkk[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2171541]Is Juicy the super skinny pale girl who walks with her hips prominently forward? Brunette with shoulder length hair?[/QUOTE]Juicy has blonde hair. Never seen her as a brunette. She is slim but not skinny.
The girl you are describing if she is day shift girl is Yasmine. Her friend is Jessica the dirty blonde with silicone breasts.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2171435]I am not into wasting 100 euros to see lesbian show. I had always stuck to just having both of them servicing me at the same time. They work very well as a pair. Or maybe I have a psychological problem of enjoying having a girl seeing her sister fucked.[/QUOTE]What? You only fuck one of the sisters in a threesome and not both?
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2171435]I am not into wasting 100 euros to see lesbian show. I had always stuck to just having both of them servicing me at the same time. They work very well as a pair. Or maybe I have a psychological problem of enjoying having a girl seeing her sister fucked.[/QUOTE]Just curious, is asking for threesome with sisters, considered [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128][CodeWord128][/url]? Is that allowed by law? Shouldn't that be more an offense then lets say bareback anal with one WG, law wise? Lets say the police were aware about that act, shouldn't a club be charged with criminal offense and even closed down?.
Sorry for the random questions, but it never occurred my mind till now. Not judging or anything, now I want 2 sisters in a threesome more than ever. Now I have one more thing to cross from my list, and an identical twins FTW LOL.
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[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2171904]Just curious, is asking for threesome with sisters, considered? Is that allowed by law? Shouldn't that be more an offense then lets say bareback anal with one WG, law wise? Lets say the police were aware about that act, shouldn't a club be charged with criminal offense and even closed down?.
Sorry for the random questions, but it never occurred my mind till now. Not judging or anything, now I want 2 sisters in a threesome more than ever. Now I have one more thing to cross from my list, and an identical twins FTW LOL.[/QUOTE]At Sharks there is Elif and Amalia who are sisters. They are happy to fuck you in a threesome session.
At Golden Time some years ago there was two blonde Romanian twins with big tits that were the flavour of threesomes. Just imagine. Blonde Twins which you can fuck both of them one after the other in a single booking.
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It is really not good to think too much, the girls are prostitutes trying to suck as much money as possible from us, several years back there were 3 sisters in World and nobody cares about it.
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Juicy.
My first and last sessions with Juicy.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1509674]...juisy? (probably, i don't remember her name correctly) is a romanian brunette girl, sitting at the end of the bar, looks like jennifer love hewitt. she came here 3 weeks ago, gfe type. in the zimmer, we had dfk. 5min-daty, normal, doggy, caw-girl and bbbj in 30- minute session. she cummed after the daty, but i didn't even after bbbj, which is very normal to me. she didn't upsell in the room, nor on the couch. probably repeat...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046062]3) Juicy: 1525-1640,150 E /1. 5 h & 100 E for anal, the first time in the past one year. As we promised at lunch to go to a room, we enjoyed our reunion. In a room she gladly proclaimed she knew everything about what I and Laura did yesterday and requested me for the same thing, anal. We started with 25 min DATY, in which she evaluated my technical progress, leading her to the first O, her tobacco break, good BBBJ, cow-girl with anal, doggie with anal leading her to the intense O, unsuccessful BBBJ, her tobacco break, quick BBBJ, missionary with her third O. Repeat.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2046062]Arrived at 11:20.
1) Emma: 1210-1335,150 E /1. 5 h & 50 E for anal fingering, the second session with her in this FKK tour. As we promised yesterday, we started our session at noon. In a room, smoky DFK, caressing, unsuccessful 20-minute DATY, 10 min fingering-anal-assist DATY leading her to the intense O, relief from anguish, 10 min missionary with the second O, her tobacco break, good BBBJ, cow-girl, missionary with the third O, my 20 min massage on her. Must repeat with Anal?.[/QUOTE]Congratulations, you are able to make so many girls come with great O, you should not have to pay but the girls should pay you.
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[QUOTE=MythoVirus;2171904]Just curious, is asking for threesome with sisters, considered ? Is that allowed by law? Shouldn't that be more an offense then lets say bareback anal with one WG, law wise? Lets say the police were aware about that act, shouldn't a club be charged with criminal offense and even closed down?.
Sorry for the random questions, but it never occurred my mind till now. Not judging or anything, now I want 2 sisters in a threesome more than ever. Now I have one more thing to cross from my list, and an identical twins FTW LOL.[/QUOTE]Sisters Elif and Amalia who were at Sharks on Sunday. Elif took weight on ass.
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Splendid day at Oase. New girl audition, Nina
Nice weather, Spring has come. The clouds rolled by but it was nice outside at Oase.
The line up was impressive and to me taste - 4 back girls, each with their charms.
My activity:
Ana 24 Ukr / Hun 165 cm shoulder length brown to tinted blonde, brown eyes, the cups, rounded rear. Smart girl, all about business. Excellent in room, did up talk for an A level. Mistake on my part but I was enthralled enough to extend to 1. 5 hours with Vampirella dribbling climax that made her laugh.
She has 2 friends, Jessica and Maria that remain on fantasy list.
I had spotted a quiet girl with limited interactions with other girls. I walked by and did the usual and told her I thought she was attractive. Got a minor blush and "thank you".
After extended recovery from Ana, I found Nina Moldovian 20's Brunette nice teeth non smoker be cups. Nice chat. From Hamburg - 2 years Atmos, has child. In room, delightful breasts, nice soft skin, protracted DATY with reaction but no O, excellent BJ, nice session, very patient given I was tired; total GFE. Very repeatable. It was her first day at Oase.
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Not bad for a first time.
First timer at FKK-Oase. I didn't have much time for research, but Havanite's review in the Frankfurt thread made it sound similar to clubs I've liked. Overall I had a good time, arriving before 4 pm to get 50 EUR entry and doing 3 sessions with Romanian girls (not intentionally, but that's the way it worked out).
Nina. Mid-20's, long black hair, attractive, friendly, good service, kind of loose, a little time pressure.
Cheyenne. Mid-20's, blonde hair with blonde and black striped ponytail, perky, very good service (BBBJ no charge, used her muscles to make her pussy tight), something weird going on with her ass--couldn't tell what, no pressure.
Christine (I think)- 20, long black hair, short and thin, excellent service start to finish. She grabbed my attention and didn't let go. A little pressure to go in the room, then none.
I was strongly considering a Russian girl (Tanja) based on my conversation with her and comments from another monger, but then Christine showed up. I talked with many other girls and most were high pressure, unattractive, or both.
Overall I spent 220 EUR for 3 sessions (includes 2 tips) and entry, ate two meals, enjoyed the sauna, whirlpool, and relaxation room. I'm pretty satisfied.
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Taxi scam or honest mistake?
I meant to post this a while back regarding the taxi's a Oase. One day, I got in the taxi and asked to be taken to Friedrichsdorf station. The guy tried to tell me that the S5 was not running but my app said everything was fine. He offered to take me to Frankfurt Main for 45 euro instead. The funny part is that I never told him that I was going to Frankfurt. Skeptical, I said to just swing by Friedrichsdorf first and we will see. He immediately back tracks and said that it was not working yesterday so maybe we will be lucky today. We get to Friedrichsdorf and lo and behold, the S5 was sitting there waiting on me.
Anyway, just be on the lookout. Maybe this was an honest mistake but I'm thinking this was not the first time the taxi drivers have been "mistaken."
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Was strongly considering a Russian girl (Tan I ja) based on my conversation with her and comments from another monger, but then Christine showed up. I talked with many other girls and most were high pressure, unattractive, or both.
Sorry but for me Cheyenne is around so many year I think she was also in Lancelot Ofenburg, impossible for me to session such a girl, it is a girl for the newbies or the tourists.
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Common scam. They always say this. When they say this, I always just answer, "Yeah, I know. I am not taking the train. My friend is meeting me there. ".
[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2173650]I meant to post this a while back regarding the taxi's a Oase. One day, I got in the taxi and asked to be taken to Friedrichsdorf station. The guy tried to tell me that the S5 was not running but my app said everything was fine. He offered to take me to Frankfurt Main for 45 euro instead. The funny part is that I never told him that I was going to Frankfurt. Skeptical, I said to just swing by Friedrichsdorf first and we will see. He immediately back tracks and said that it was not working yesterday so maybe we will be lucky today. We get to Friedrichsdorf and lo and behold, the S5 was sitting there waiting on me.
Anyway, just be on the lookout. Maybe this was an honest mistake but I'm thinking this was not the first time the taxi drivers have been "mistaken."[/QUOTE]
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Christina
[QUOTE=HankMoody69;2173512]First timer at FKK-Oase. I didn't have much time for research, but Havanite's review in the Frankfurt thread made it sound similar to clubs I've liked. Overall I had a good time, arriving before 4 pm to get 50 EUR entry and doing 3 sessions with Romanian girls (not intentionally, but that's the way it worked out).
Nina. Mid-20's, long black hair, attractive, friendly, good service, kind of loose, a little time pressure.
Cheyenne. Mid-20's, blonde hair with blonde and black striped ponytail, perky, very good service (BBBJ no charge, used her muscles to make her pussy tight), something weird going on with her ass--couldn't tell what, no pressure.
Christine (I think)- 20, long black hair, short and thin, excellent service start to finish. She grabbed my attention and didn't let go. A little pressure to go in the room, then none.
I was strongly considering a Russian girl (Tanja) based on my conversation with her and comments from another monger, but then Christine showed up. I talked with many other girls and most were high pressure, unattractive, or both.
Overall I spent 220 EUR for 3 sessions (includes 2 tips) and entry, ate two meals, enjoyed the sauna, whirlpool, and relaxation room. I'm pretty satisfied.[/QUOTE]Christina is great looking, good service and is 20 years old. I like her looks. Nose not perfect but slim, firm body that she lets you touch intimately especially on the couch. Loved it when she crouched on her front to allow access to her ass when sitting together for a while.
You should not try her little sister Melania who is 18 years old. But man she is a cute one too. Smokes like a veteran though.
You did well to get Cheyenne to BBBJ in a 50 session. Great skills in negotiations.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2173650]I meant to post this a while back regarding the taxi's a Oase. One day, I got in the taxi and asked to be taken to Friedrichsdorf station. The guy tried to tell me that the S5 was not running but my app said everything was fine. He offered to take me to Frankfurt Main for 45 euro instead. The funny part is that I never told him that I was going to Frankfurt. Skeptical, I said to just swing by Friedrichsdorf first and we will see. He immediately back tracks and said that it was not working yesterday so maybe we will be lucky today. We get to Friedrichsdorf and lo and behold, the S5 was sitting there waiting on me.
Anyway, just be on the lookout. Maybe this was an honest mistake but I'm thinking this was not the first time the taxi drivers have been "mistaken."[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing your experience. This taxi scam is tried out continuously and has been for years and years. Catches newbies out a lot as you do not expect the taxi driver to be telling stories. Just stick to your guns like you did and see if it's really true.
Gets annoying when different taxi drivers put this scam each night you visit during a trip. Really if you believe the taxi drivers then German trains are not the best running mass transit system.
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Estephania
Forgot to mention for a long time that Estephania with her KF32 ass is plying it's sodomy trade at Oase these days.
Seems like the trend is for Oase girls to depart for working at Sharks. Estephania seems to one of the exceptional bucking that trend.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2173772]Forgot to mention for a long time that Estephania with her KF32 ass is plying it's sodomy trade at Oase these days.
Seems like the trend is for Oase girls to depart for working at Sharks. Estephania seems to one of the exceptional bucking that trend.[/QUOTE]This is her second stint at Oase. She started at Sharks in summer 2017, tried Oase briefly in the fall but was back at Sharks by the winter. I guess World didn't work out for her and Oase is her best fit. She probably hates having to work until closing time.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2173772]Forgot to mention for a long time that Estephania with her KF32 ass is plying it's sodomy trade at Oase these days.
Seems like the trend is for Oase girls to depart for working at Sharks. Estephania seems to one of the exceptional bucking that trend.[/QUOTE]Yes yesterday I saw some ex Oase girls at World, we all know that Oase is strongly going down since 1 year, many senior German monger left, you know the early morning 10 AM customer coming week after week and providing stable earnings to the girls. All this is the result of the poor and lack of management in this club, I already wrote it several times, regular customers are leaving very fast but Shark is also on a very bad track see my report from yesterday, like many German guys I don't like the atmosphere in Shark with all this tourists and guys no eating pork, and on top of that with that 10 man to 1 girl ratio.
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Taxi scam. Not just at Oase, also at Sharks and World
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2173771]Thank you for sharing your experience. This taxi scam is tried out continuously and has been for years and years. Catches newbies out a lot as you do not expect the taxi driver to be telling stories. Just stick to your guns like you did and see if it's really true.
Gets annoying when different taxi drivers put this scam each night you visit during a trip. Really if you believe the taxi drivers then German trains are not the best running mass transit system.[/QUOTE]So far, in my FKK career, taxi drivers have tried this scam on me 4 times at Oase and 3 times at Sharks, where they would say that there wase 30 minutes delay at Langen so why not they drive me to the airport instead for a 'special' fare of 45 euros.
There is a slightly different kind of taxi scam when going to World, happening 50% of the time, where the taxi tries to take a longer left flanking route to add 2-3 euros to the fare instead of turning right at the roundabout. I have to constantly be on the alert to this and direct the taxi driver to go around the roundabout again or do a U-turn when he fails to make the right turn. I would then not give him any tip, to make up for the additional, though negligible, mileage arising from the U-turn.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2173771]Thank you for sharing your experience. This taxi scam is tried out continuously and has been for years and years. Catches newbies out a lot as you do not expect the taxi driver to be telling stories. Just stick to your guns like you did and see if it's really true.
Gets annoying when different taxi drivers put this scam each night you visit during a trip. Really if you believe the taxi drivers then German trains are not the best running mass transit system.[/QUOTE]It is possible there are delays or failures (rare), however one should NEVER believe a taxi driver story. There are honest drivers (10% or so). DB Navigator or RMV Apps on your smartphone will tell you when the trains are running and any delays. I will easily confirm that there is a 2. 08 am train from Friedrichsdorf and one every hour on Friday and Saturday nights where the taxi driver will tell you there isn't. Check your App before you leave the club using the wifi. Know what time you need to leave.
I don't make any story for the driver. I just say I have no interest in such stories and I have the App
It is important to leave Oase at least 10 minutes before the train leaves and a bit more if you need to buy a ticket or don't have suitable bills to pay the taxi quickly. If you are running slightly late, it is possible to make it to Seulberg instead (with 3 minutes extra time to get there), but you had better know the best route, or the taxi could deliberately take longer, and which side of the track you arrived on compared to side for the train.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2173760]
You did well to get Cheyenne to BBBJ in a 50 session. Great skills in negotiations.[/QUOTE]Is this a comment on the girl, or a little bit "tongue in cheek"? Charge extra for defeating the chance of the old CIM bonus? LOL.
Are you experiencing a lot of very proper and legal BJs? A rhetorical question. I thought it was excellent GFEs that were not so automatic these days, perhaps requiring incentives to put the girl in a good mood.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2173929]Is this a comment on the girl, or a little bit "tongue in cheek"? Charge extra for defeating the chance of the old CIM bonus? LOL.
Are you experiencing a lot of very proper and legal BJs? A rhetorical question. I thought it was excellent GFEs that were not so automatic these days, perhaps requiring incentives to put the girl in a good mood..[/QUOTE]BBBJ is still the standard for me without asking for it, only one girl at Samya put on a condom since July 17, for me I don't care just because I don t like to much 95% of the BBBJ only very few girls are really in it and do it very well.
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Variable pricing at Oase
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2173929]Is this a comment on the girl, or a little bit "tongue in cheek"? Charge extra for defeating the chance of the old CIM bonus? LOL.
Are you experiencing a lot of very proper and legal BJs? A rhetorical question. I thought it was excellent GFEs that were not so automatic these days, perhaps requiring incentives to put the girl in a good mood.[/QUOTE]I meant that the dude got a better deal since he was up sold to one hour.
Kissing in a couple of sessions has been limited at Oase.
Interesting development at club Globe which may be a model for pricing at Oase:
[URL]http://club-globe.ch/en/preise.php[/URL]
The Globe since 24 April 2018 has this pricing:
Admission to the club is CHF 95 (around 79 euro).
30 minutes standard service (without kissing) is CHF 80 (around 69 euro).
30 minutes full service is CHF 140 (around 117 euro).
All prices include VAT.
Credit cards accepted.
Oase Girls seem to be providing the Globe two tier service where kissing will have a premium price per an unwritten pricing policy.
One girl offers 50 euro is standard service of covered suck and fuck.
100 euro is uncovered suck and covered fuck for 30 minutes.
150 euro is one hour is GFE package with kissing giving the incentive to go for the hour.
I turned this girl down at this level.
Then there are the girls that are selling the deal that a half hour session as the Reception explains to visitors is indeed 50 euros, but licking is an extra at 50 euros and kissing is also a further extra at 50 euros making a half hour session 150 euros. I know there are girls that offer this pricing to men with Laura being one of them saying this is normal and one is crazy not to pay it.
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Credit cards at Oase
There was this dude at the Reception wanting to come in. He was an Asian dude.
He wanted to pay the entry with his credit card as he did not carry cash. It is the modern world now where is it becoming more and more cash less. So this is understandable.
Reception assisted the man to take his credit card. . The dude had a wallet of cards and he went through them one by one seeing them rejected by the Oase credit card reader until he came to his third card which was finally accepted to withdraw 100 euros with 10 euros at 10% percent commission going to the club. As the time was before 4 pm then half of the 100 euro went towards the entry fee of 50 euros leaving the game Asian 50 euro to pay for his suck and fuck with one girl in the club. Good plan.
The sad thing was all the dudes that stood behind the Asian dude waiting to get into the club as he he fiddled with his credit cards until he got one to actually work with the Oase credit card reader.
Frustrating.
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Oase. Day 2.
After hanging with Kosher Kowboy and DFW at Dietz I wanted to head back to Oase to see if I can track down my dream girl. Got there around 3:00 and there was not too much of a line up so I hung around on the lounge chairs outside for a while. How I wish there was a place like this back in the USA. The atmosphere here is so awesome when you can hang outside by the pool. If I was just inside I don't think I would enjoy it as much but outside is awesome. Unfortunately, my dream girl never showed up.
The first girl who I really enjoyed time with was Juicy who sat on my bed / chair with me and hung out for a while talking. She is a lot of fun blonde with tits on the smaller side. I probably would not have taken her if I didn't like her personality so much since I like larger boobs. I was actually still in need of rest from cumming twice at Dietz already and I told her I wouldn't be able to cum but she convinced me to try. We went to one of the beds at the back of the yard and she started going down on me. It was funny while she was going down on me another couple came back to use the bed next to us and they were having all kinds of trouble turning the bed so the sun wasn't right on them. Juicy knew the guy and here she is going down on me and trying to talk to this guy trying to move their bed. Very comical. After a while I told her I wasn't going to cum and we talked a bit more and she was talking about how doesn't cum very often. I asked her if she likes guys to go down on her and she said if they are good. I typically don't go down on working girls but I thought I would show off my skills. It took a little work but I did make her cum pretty hard. She was very quiet about it but you can always tell when their muscles tighten up and then just let go. Afterward she went down on me again and we fucked a bit outside so overall it was a fun session and she is a very sweet girl.
After Juicy I came across a girl I kept looking at the day before but she never really paid attention to me so I figured she had an attitude and didn't want to be bothered but today she asked me when I was going to fuck her. I said yesterday I saw her many times and she did not even look at me. She said she does not really talk much and waits for guys to come to her. She is very cute and has bleached blonde hair with dark roots showing and she wears a white half top that really hides her boobs. While she was wearing the top I thought she was rather flat but once she took the shirt off she has a nice sized chest. I told her I would come find her in a little while after I recovered I eventually got up enough strength to take her back and she was a pleasant surprise. She said she is not like the other girls in that a half hour is 50 and an hour is 100 and she will stay that whole time with a BBBJ and not try to get 100 for the half hour. She does offer upgrades like anal for more but for the straight up BBBJ and sex she does not upsell. We had a great time. She was a great kisser and very interactive so well worth the money. While she was blowing me she played with my ass a bit and said that if I wanted for an extra 50 she would use a finger or two in my ass.
I thought it might be fun to try so what the hell. I actually enjoyed it and she made the session even more fun. Thanks to me texting KK about her I actually remember her name was Arabella. KK was the only reason I know any of the names from Dietz.
After our session I went back out and had some dinner. During my last session Arabella said she was going to be leaving soon and I started thinking, Damn that is a shame as I would like to take her again. I found her still hanging around and went over to talk to her. She said she needed to make a bit more money to take her mom shopping the next day so she was going to stay a little longer. I told her if she was still there in another hour or so I would go with her again. She said she would wait. After eating and hanging around I started thinking it would be nice to do an hour with her so I went over to talk to her about it. She wasn't really into staying that late but said OK if I wanted. After a while more we went back for an hour. I could tell she really didn't want to stay the full hour so she kept having me play with her ass and offering anal for the same price for the half hour. I am not a big anal guy but hadn't done it for while so I thought why not. It was fun but I should have just made it an hour long session. After another great session with her she went home and I grabbed some more food. The food at Oase is actually very good.
The girl from my other report who did not have a great face but had a good body and fun session kept turning up asking for a room and I kept telling her maybe later so I figured for my last fuck of the night I would take her again. The first time she was a lot of fun and gave a great session in the room for only 50 e so I thought it would be a great time again but WOW was this a complete turnaround. I tried kissing her and she kind of brushed me off then she rushed through the BBBJ and every time I tried to kiss her she would move away after a few seconds and then she wanted to fuck right away. I was getting really annoyed with the attitude and rush and couldn't even keep my dick hard. Then she kept checking the time on her phone and after 20 minutes she told me I had 1 minute left. I had my watch on and knew it had only been 20 minutes and she was full of shit. I'm getting pissed off just writing this. Then she said OK 10 more minutes and I just said forget it. She asked if everything was OK and I told her no she was rushing and not kissing and I was not happy. We went down to the locker and I gave her the 50 e and she went to do the usual kiss on each cheek and I just snubbed her and turned my face away. What a shitty way to end the trip.
Afterward I showered up and got ready to head out.
I had decided to skip my hotel on the last night and stay late at the club then head straight to the airport from there for my 7:00 flight. It was going to work out perfect then I found out the last train was 12:38 so that meant I would be spending more time at the airport but that was OK. After dressing I went out to get a taxi to the train station and found out on Sunday the last train was 12:08 so now I had to spend $45 e to get to the Frankfurt train station so we headed out. Stupid me not thinking took the taxi then so I got to the Frankfurt train station before 1:00. I could have stayed at Oase and slept on comfy beds until they closed at 4:00 instead of sleeping on the floor of the airport. UGH!
Oh well, it was a great trip even if the end of it was not the best.
Hope you enjoyed the trip report. Sorry it took so long to write the last bit but I got caught up in work as soon as I got back.
Have fun guys!
Captain Howdy.
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Kf 32
[QUOTE=Takedown;2173788]This is her second stint at Oase. She started at Sharks in summer 2017, tried Oase briefly in the fall but was back at Sharks by the winter. I guess World didn't work out for her and Oase is her best fit. She probably hates having to work until closing time.[/QUOTE]For those that do not know the reference to KF 32 was to Estephania's dress size. That is way way extra small. I know guys that really only go for girls that have that 32 inch waist and chest.
A girl like say Adele is KF 34 which is a size larger but still slim.
KF 36 is next size up.
Never asked her if she likes working to closing time but she does as do all the girls that work the afternoon and evening shift.
It is great to have the girls working to the end and not like Sharks having the best girls vacate the club from 1am onwards or even earlier. You still get a feeling in the club and the party atmosphere as the girls are filling in time until closing and have more time to sit with you and hang out.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2174126]I meant that the dude got a better deal since he was up sold to one hour.
Kissing in a couple of sessions has been limited at Oase.
Interesting development at club Globe which may be a model for pricing at Oase:
[URL]http://club-globe.ch/en/preise.php[/URL]
The Globe since 24 April 2018 has this pricing:
Admission to the club is CHF 95 (around 79 euro).
30 minutes standard service (without kissing) is CHF 80 (around 69 euro).
30 minutes full service is CHF 140 (around 117 euro).
All prices include VAT.
Credit cards accepted..[/QUOTE]Not sure where you get this information. I was just in Globe, half an hour includes all the kissing in the world and all the ass licking you want (active BTW), not all girls lick ass. But, service level is through the roof. The Globe moto has always been, girls make more money as they charge more, but they must give perfect service or they are out in a split second when a client complains. Not sure when you were there last, but make a drive and enjoy the great service. Also, GT Vienna in the same tour, not as expensive as Globe, but service level is outstanding with a higher concentration of beauties as compared to Hessen clubs. Normally, I get that service level in Hessen only from girls that have been in the room with me a few times before. With the price increase in Hessen now, the difference is not so high.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2174126]I meant that the dude got a better deal since he was up sold to one hour.
Kissing in a couple of sessions has been limited at Oase.
Interesting development at club Globe which may be a model for pricing at Oase:[/QUOTE]There was no upsell. I was shocked. 30 min at 50 EUR incl. BBBJ. Maybe she liked me?
I'm in Koeln now and feeling disappointed. Oase environment was better than Samya and Girls-Wohngemeinschaft was a disaster.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2174126]Kissing in a couple of sessions has been limited at Oase..[/QUOTE]Yes it seems that the girls still giving the full GFE with DFK for a 50, must be getting very limited to less popular girls, who have to take what they can get. The top girls are hardly motivated by a 50 now, in my estimation. Ina is long gone. Haha. She believed in giving fab service for 50.
Eventually 150 for full GFE 1 hour maybe seen as a good deal. That is only 50% rise on 2004 cost of 100 for the hour. Not really exorbitant. This is not a 3rd world country with rock bottom prices. It is becoming a norm at Oase. I have certainly been able to get great GFEs with excellent kissing when the girl is motivated and likes the customer attitudes. LOL With a 50, you need a lucky choice. I don't even know which girls provide All expected for 50, but they may prefer to be not named. Everything for 50 still seems a bit more available at Sharks.
I have never been keen on 30 minutes. Too rushed for me.
As a comparison, 1 hour with a superior Bangkok bargirl could cost 100 Euros these days when include a barfine and a short time Hotel room fee. Only get good value in Bangkok now by taking girls for longer time periods or taking street walkers (undressed, the body could be a disaster).
Obviously prices in Romania, Bulgaria, Nigeria, Cambodia are going to be a lot better than FKK, as those are really poor countries. I appreciate that the girls come from Romania, but living in Germany raises their expectations of what a fuck is worth.
I hope we don't continue to read endless reports about unsatisfactory sessions for Oase, since guys have been warned that it might not motivate the girl. I have been have great sessions. However I can't remember when I ever did a 30 minute session for just a 50. The exception would be trying a new girl when I quit after 10 to 15 minutes, realizing it was a waste of time. Fortunately I did not have one of those sessions this year (limited number of visits).
I took a girl for 1 hour. Was great GFE, and I looked forward to next repeat. She did another session with an Asian guy for little more than 5 minutes. Perhaps he was a 50 Euro customer. Girls act very differently depending on the customer, whether they expect a good chance of repeat business, and other factors.
Girls are probably still willing to do quickies for 50, I am guessing, since I will never be quick unless cancelling a waste of time session. Then I can fit the "quickie" model. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2174269]Not sure where you get this information. I was just in Globe, half an hour includes all the kissing in the world and all the ass licking you want (active BTW), not all girls lick ass. But, service level is through the roof. The Globe moto has always been, girls make more money as they charge more, but they must give perfect service or they are out in a split second when a client complains. Not sure when you were there last, but make a drive and enjoy the great service. Also, GT Vienna in the same tour, not as expensive as Globe, but service level is outstanding with a higher concentration of beauties as compared to Hessen clubs. Normally, I get that service level in Hessen only from girls that have been in the room with me a few times before. With the price increase in Hessen now, the difference is not so high.[/QUOTE]I got the information off the Globe website. See the link provided if you read the original post.
The promotion is since 24 April 2018.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2174269]Not sure where you get this information. I was just in Globe, half an hour includes all the kissing in the world and all the ass licking you want (active BTW), not all girls lick ass. But, service level is through the roof. The Globe moto has always been, girls make more money as they charge more, but they must give perfect service or they are out in a split second when a client complains. Not sure when you were there last, but make a drive and enjoy the great service. Also, GT Vienna in the same tour, not as expensive as Globe, but service level is outstanding with a higher concentration of beauties as compared to Hessen clubs. Normally, I get that service level in Hessen only from girls that have been in the room with me a few times before. With the price increase in Hessen now, the difference is not so high.[/QUOTE]I think this sounds nice in theory and is the selling point at Globe but at the very least the "awesome service" is not consistent. I was only there once midweek and the lineup was no better than Wellcum or even Oase on its best night. Service was good between the 2 half sessions I had but not spectacular. Neither were top 10 sessions for me. Optics were good but I noticed that the girls themselves were not all stunners, rather they were all very well put together and were maximizing their potential.
I've only been to GT Vienna once on a Sunday but the optics were unimpressive. Even worse was the service by the girls and the staff.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2174377]I got the information off the Globe website. See the link provided if you read the original post.
The promotion is since 24 April 2018.[/QUOTE]Well FKK Websites also indicate certain things that we know for sure are not the same as when you are actually in the FKK, so I can guarantee first hand that that is not the case. Make the trip, you'll have a blast.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2174269]Not sure where you get this information. I was just in Globe, half an hour includes all the kissing in the world and all the ass licking you want (active BTW), not all girls lick ass. But, service level is through the roof. The Globe moto has always been, girls make more money as they charge more, but they must give perfect service or they are out in a split second when a client complains. Not sure when you were there last, but make a drive and enjoy the great service. Also, GT Vienna in the same tour, not as expensive as Globe, but service level is outstanding with a higher concentration of beauties as compared to Hessen clubs. Normally, I get that service level in Hessen only from girls that have been in the room with me a few times before. With the price increase in Hessen now, the difference is not so high.[/QUOTE]Like its small brothers: Westside, Swiss and maybe also History, Globe now propose not kissing, fast rooms, for cheap rate 80 CHF= about 68 € , but room may be finished as soon you cum, no shower together and top girls should not be very interested for this business, when on my visits during my free ride tour, I had girls who would have kissed me all day or night, like if they wanted I marry them. I finished with one after closing time, she asked me to take her to hotel, and on next visit, she was telling my foreplay to her friend.
Some really high level sexy girls at Globe, not sure for cheap 68 €?
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2174269]Not sure where you get this information. I was just in Globe, half an hour includes all the kissing in the world and all the ass licking you want (active BTW). But, service level is through the roof. [/QUOTE]Danny, just so we fully understand your comment, were you paying the 80 CHF per half hour price or the 140 CHF per half hour price in Globe?
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A different sort of story.
I come to Oase a couple of times a year. After I left my longtime girlfriend. I just decided I wanted no more of relationships. I learned about FKK years ago from an employee of my company in Germany. My first experiences were at clubs in Western Germany. I loved the FKK concept. In those days there was even free beer in the one club in St. Augustine (near Bonn) I visited most often. Those were some wild times.
I discovered Oase on a visit to Frankfurt in 2003. There were then actually girls of different nationalities at the club, Ukrainians, Poles, some Romanians and even a few German girls. My first visit I needed an IV the girls drained so much fluid out of me. I began returning on a semi-regular basis in 2008 and those girls were for the most part gone, replaced by 90% Romanians (now it is like 100% Not so bad really, I have been with some stunning beauties the last decade. I have been to World and Sharks too but I just prefer the familiarity of Oase. I know the place well.
These days I only come to visit one girl. I spend hours with her every time I am at the club. Spoil her rotten. I keep her name to myself but notice she is seldom mentioned on these boards. She gives me service beyond what I read on these pages and obviously I spend more cash than the average punter. But I always make sure she finishes as well, which I know she appreciates. On this forum I read stories of bad service, of unrealized expectations, of disappointment with the facility itself. Then I see that so much was expected for 50 Euro a half hour! Or even 100 Euro for an hour. This might buy you a meth head with STD's in my home country. I understand the locals (you can drop by anytime) but if you are visiting on business or because you are flying through Frankfurt, bring some cash. These girls shouldn't be working for peanuts. Don't waste your money on long cab rides either. The trains can get you quite close. I travel all over Frankfurt and to the club and back for 25.30 Euro an day.
I love Oase, have only had one bad experience over the years, and for that one I blame myself. I certainly treasure my current Romanian princess. A girl like her would cost a small fortune in my country for just a couple of hours. I was lounging in the sun there this month. Totally spent sexually but surrounded by probably 30 naked girls out in the lovely outdoor area. It was a true fantasy, there were hardly any men around this particular day. The girls for the most part seemed to know my deal and did not bother me for rooms. It was quite interesting observing them at play with each other.
I even get along now with the one cute reception girl. Had a very nice chat with her my last day. It's not the easiest job when things are busy. People get demanding and they get cranky. Another reason I prefer Oase before it gets crowded. I am not even going to complain about the food. It's decent most of the time. Eat the right things and you will be fine. I do wish they served something between 3:30-5:00 pm though.
To close, enjoy Oase (and all FKK clubs) they may not be around forever. When they are gone we will all miss them. If you locals lived in a country (like I do) where such places and things are forbidden you would appreciate such a place far more.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2174506]Well FKK Websites also indicate certain things that we know for sure are not the same as when you are actually in the FKK, so I can guarantee first hand that that is not the case. Make the trip, you'll have a blast.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks for the advice.
May we ask for a small clarification whether you were paying 80 Swiss francs per half hour which was meant to be without kissing or were you paying the 140 Swiss francs per half hour which is meant to include kissing and per your own testimony the girl also performs rimjob on the man.
If you are paying 80 Swiss francs per half hour and the girls were still kissing kissing and providing rimjob and even more then indeed this makes it cheaper than Oase due to many girls asking for 100 euro for half a hour.
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The joys
[QUOTE=UppstateMann;2174557]
I love Oase, have only had one bad experience over the years, and for that one I blame myself. I was lounging in the sun there this month. Totally spent sexually but surrounded by probably 30 naked girls out in the lovely outdoor area. It was a true fantasy, there were hardly any men around this particular day. The girls for the most part seemed to know my deal and did not bother me for rooms. It was quite interesting observing them at play with each other.
To close, enjoy Oase (and all FKK clubs) they may not be around forever. When they are gone we will all miss them. If you locals lived in a country (like I do) where such places and things are forbidden you would appreciate such a place far more.[/QUOTE]Good report and captures very well the views of most tourists to FKKs like me. I posted a similar comment recently that "there's nothing like sitting at the top end of that field in the sun with one naked beauty performing BBBJ, one hand on the other girl and one on a beer". I recall sunbathing in Sharks poolside in the sun and having three girls rubbing suntan oil all over me for an hour before one of them made me CIM. I frequently think when in an FKK that this is how Julius Caesar lived! Hence no doubt the Roman themed Oase. I echo your thoughts. As a tourist these clubs are just great and I sure wish we had them back home.
Our only difference is on the travel. I've found that its easy to get cabs to and from Oase for 50 or less. I tend to get the train to Bad Homburg and pay the 20 and then a cab back to central FRA. Its really not much in context and as you say, as a tourist you come here to spend your bucks. I'm certainly jealous of the locals who can choose which clubs to attend every week.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2174602]If you are paying 80 Swiss francs per half hour and the girls were still kissing kissing and providing rimjob and even more then indeed this makes it cheaper than Oase due to many girls asking for 100 euro for half a hour.[/QUOTE]I was there last Thursday, but I didn't try the 80 CHF per half hour deal. I spoke to a few girls about this discounted rate and they were clear on the fact that it was a reduced service (suck & f*ck only). They also told me that the girls have the right to turn down requests for the discounted service. I presume it's mostly aimed at the bottom x% of earners in the club.
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;2174678]I was there last Thursday, but I didn't try the 80 CHF per half hour deal. I spoke to a few girls about this discounted rate and they were clear on the fact that it was a reduced service (suck & f*ck only). They also told me that the girls have the right to turn down requests for the discounted service. I presume it's mostly aimed at the bottom x% of earners in the club.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the clarification Samplers. Well done.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2174411]I think this sounds nice in theory and is the selling point at Globe but at the very least the "awesome service" is not consistent. I was only there once midweek and the lineup was no better than Wellcum or even Oase on its best night. Service was good between the 2 half sessions I had but not spectacular. Neither were top 10 sessions for me. Optics were good but I noticed that the girls themselves were not all stunners, rather they were all very well put together and were maximizing their potential.
I've only been to GT Vienna once on a Sunday but the optics were unimpressive. Even worse was the service by the girls and the staff.[/QUOTE]Surprised to hear. I had pretty good experiences (LU can be subjective). Also, one data point is not really a representative sample.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2174602]Ok, thanks for the advice.
May we ask for a small clarification whether you were paying 80 Swiss francs per half hour which was meant to be without kissing or were you paying the 140 Swiss francs per half hour which is meant to include kissing and per your own testimony the girl also performs rimjob on the man.
If you are paying 80 Swiss francs per half hour and the girls were still kissing kissing and providing rimjob and even more then indeed this makes it cheaper than Oase due to many girls asking for 100 euro for half a hour.[/QUOTE]I was paying 200 an hour. Only top girls (again subjective) and super service. I try to gently get the money business out of the way outside the room, so there is no money discussion inside. In Oase, I get normal pricing for 1 hour sessions or more from most girls.
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Here today, gone in the future?
[QUOTE=UppstateMann;2174557]To close, enjoy Oase (and all FKK clubs) they may not be around forever. When they are gone we will all miss them. If you locals lived in a country (like I do) where such places and things are forbidden you would appreciate such a place far more.[/QUOTE]I've been out of the loop for a while, and I'm just returning- I'm curious to know if you commented that they may not be around forever because of some specific trend that has been happening while I've been away, or if it's just a generic sentiment? The last time I indulged was at least two or three years back, and I'm not sure if there have been any major changes in that time.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2174903]I was paying 200 an hour. Only top girls (again subjective) and super service. I try to gently get the money business out of the way outside the room, so there is no money discussion inside. In Oase, I get normal pricing for 1 hour sessions or more from most girls.[/QUOTE]Globe hour rate is 280 CHF = about 235 € at the moment, but can include real sweet social time before, real sweet shower together after, sometimes diner, sometimes when you finish at closing time, girl ask you to take her to your hotel, problem is when at 3 am you don't have hotel room, then she ask you to return on next day and book her on desk, because she mostly works on bookings at Globe.
Top Globe girls don't need 80 CHF business, this is just to attract more clients, like voyeurs on Tuesday public sex, to make more numerous entry, but top girls return to you and sometimes explain to their friend what you did to her, with friend looking at you, I had to ask her to stop to give deep details, her friend saying she could do her the same for lesbi show, but she answered: No, it s not the same, kissing me again, asking: I want again.
More expensive, but dreamed land in FKK land. Had weekly 280+95 = about 315 € visits on my free ride tour, with great diner and a top sexy, top level in bed, kissing You like she wants You marry her, for each time over than 1 hour, all Romanians, but always saying on desk only 1 hour, then taking your hand to go to shower, even after closing time. Desk was waiting for us at nearly 3. 30 am. No Verbier on this Friday, but anyway Mont Gelé lift was already closed on 20 April, when Verbier closed on 29. This is my Globe. On my last visit at Sharks on Sunday 22 April, I spent 50+350 with Amira and Raïssa.
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[QUOTE=MooseNibbler;2175476]I've been out of the loop for a while, and I'm just returning- I'm curious to know if you commented that they may not be around forever because of some specific trend that has been happening while I've been away, or if it's just a generic sentiment? The last time I indulged was at least two or three years back, and I'm not sure if there have been any major changes in that time.[/QUOTE]With all due respect, if you aren't sure there haven't been any major changes then you haven't paid attention at all. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the legal changes from July 1st last year.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2174602]Ok, thanks for the advice.
May we ask for a small clarification whether you were paying 80 Swiss francs per half hour which was meant to be without kissing or were you paying the 140 Swiss francs per half hour which is meant to include kissing and per your own testimony the girl also performs rimjob on the man.
If you are paying 80 Swiss francs per half hour and the girls were still kissing kissing and providing rimjob and even more then indeed this makes it cheaper than Oase due to many girls asking for 100 euro for half a hour.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Danny227;2174903]I was paying 200 an hour. Only top girls (again subjective) and super service. I try to gently get the money business out of the way outside the room, so there is no money discussion inside.[/QUOTE]Danny227, you paid only 200CHF for an hour at Globe when the normal price is 280CHF /1hr? So, the girl was so kind that deduct 80CHF from her fee for beneficence? Strange... Very strange.
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[QUOTE=ChristianG;2175673]Danny227, you paid only 200CHF for an hour at Globe when the normal price is 280CHF /1hr? So, the girl was so kind that deduct 80CHF from her fee for beneficence? Strange... Very strange.[/QUOTE]I did think this too when I saw the pricing at 200 CHF per hour but decided to leave it. Now that you brought it up I just want to say I am delighted that prices are negotiable at Globe particularly given there is a sales tax component incorporated into the price implying that the tax take will be proportionally lower due to the lower piece charged maybe.
Thank you to Danny227 for leading the way that prices at Globe are negotiable. The implication is that potentially at Oase there can be opportunities.
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I have no idea why he paid 200/ h instead of 160 for the basic or 280 for full service. But it can't be any difference in tax, the girls are getting 140/30 min for full service which includes a 10 SFR tax component. At least that's what girls told me, that the 10 SFR are some kind of tax. Might be a rent for the room as well. But it's nothing that could get your price down from 280 to 200 per hour.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2175746]I did think this too when I saw the pricing at 200 CHF per hour but decided to leave it. Now that you brought it up I just want to say I am delighted that prices are negotiable at Globe particularly given there is a sales tax component incorporated into the price implying that the tax take will be proportionally lower due to the lower piece charged maybe.
Thank you to Danny227 for leading the way that prices at Globe are negotiable. The implication is that potentially at Oase there can be opportunities.[/QUOTE]This probably belongs more in the Zurich thread.
As a rule, base prices are not negotiable in Globe. Negotiable are only prices for extras, like anal, but there is a minimum under which the girls are not allowed to go. If the club finds out a girl is undercutting the prices, she won't stay in the club very long.
A girl will probably decide to charge you to the lowest 15 minutes increment (once you went over the first 30 minutes) but that is because the reception is keeping a very close eye on this. Sure, there can be exceptions, a regular might get a freebie (in time or extras), but again this would be an exception.
The girls are told to shower with the clients after. In fact, supervisors will come and ask regulars about the performance of the girl and as well if she asked for shower after the room. This started about 2 years ago. Shower time does not count as service time, it's just part of the Globe idea of delivering a great client experience, the wow factor after which they are these days.
Having dinner with a girl is not so uncommon in the case of regulars or big spenders. You probably won't have dinner with the girl if you went for the CHF 80 service.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2175746]I did think this too when I saw the pricing at 200 CHF per hour but decided to leave it. Now that you brought it up I just want to say I am delighted that prices are negotiable at Globe particularly given there is a sales tax component incorporated into the price implying that the tax take will be proportionally lower due to the lower piece charged maybe.
Thank you to Danny227 for leading the way that prices at Globe are negotiable. The implication is that potentially at Oase there can be opportunities.[/QUOTE]This will be my last response on the topic. Prices are 160 to 280 an hour depending on the service you want. So, 200 an hour is somewhere in the lower end of that range. For the girls this is a very nice fee and mostly they are OK with it. Take into account that if you come in a super busy day where the girls make that money anyway, maybe it is possible that they won't go for it. It really is subjective. It isn't negotiable to say give me everything for 30 minutes. It is negotiable when you are reasonable and going for an hour. Your behavior and attitude also count. I wish you luck, if you visit.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2175746]I did think this too when I saw the pricing at 200 CHF per hour but decided to leave it. Now that you brought it up I just want to say I am delighted that prices are negotiable at Globe particularly given there is a sales tax component incorporated into the price implying that the tax take will be proportionally lower due to the lower piece charged maybe.
Thank you to Danny227 for leading the way that prices at Globe are negotiable. The implication is that potentially at Oase there can be opportunities.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirioja;2175547]Globe hour rate is 280 CHF = about 235 at the moment, but can include real sweet social time before, real sweet shower together after, sometimes diner, sometimes when you finish at closing time, girl ask you to take her to your hotel, problem is when at 3 am you don't have hotel room, then she ask you to return on next day and book her on desk, because she mostly works on bookings at Globe.
Top Globe girls don't need 80 CHF business, this is just to attract more clients, like voyeurs on Tuesday public sex, to make more numerous entry, but top girls return to you and sometimes explain to their friend what you did to her, with friend looking at you, I had to ask her to stop to give deep details, her friend saying she could do her the same for lesbi show, but she answered:.[/QUOTE]Well, I am good with 200 an hour as a rate and that means that if I stay 1.5 hours, it is 300. Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2175746]I did think this too when I saw the pricing at 200 CHF per hour but decided to leave it. Now that you brought it up I just want to say I am delighted that prices are negotiable at Globe particularly given there is a sales tax component incorporated into the price implying that the tax take will be proportionally lower due to the lower piece charged maybe.
Thank you to Danny227 for leading the way that prices at Globe are negotiable. The implication is that potentially at Oase there can be opportunities.[/QUOTE]I think that you are all joking.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2175593]With all due respect, if you aren't sure there haven't been any major changes then you haven't paid attention at all. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the legal changes from July 1st last year.[/QUOTE]Well yes, that's what I meant when I said I've been out of the loop for a while. Thank you for pointing me specifically to. July 1st; that detail led me to the information I needed. So aside from no more BBBJ, have you guys felt much of an impact from the new law as customers?
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2175593]With all due respect, if you aren't sure there haven't been any major changes then you haven't paid attention at all. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the legal changes from July 1st last year.[/QUOTE]That seems a bit harsh. Plus, it leaves a false impression. There was a large change in the law. But the impact on actual practice has been less.
The main change that impacts customers is that bareback oral and intercourse have been declared illegal. Condoms must be used. Or so the law states. But in practice most sex workers who allowed BB services in the past still do. But it occurs less in public areas than before. Because the law only penalizes men, and is therefore virtually unenforcible, few providers stopped BB services they provided before. Some have tried to exploit the situation by charging more. Market forces have kept things relatively stable though both in terms of services and price.
But be sure to negotiate services, discreetly, and don't make assumptions.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2175787]This probably belongs more in the Zurich thread.
As a rule, base prices are not negotiable in Globe. Negotiable are only prices for extras, like anal, but there is a minimum under which the girls are not allowed to go. If the club finds out a girl is undercutting the prices, she won't stay in the club very long.
A girl will probably decide to charge you to the lowest 15 minutes increment (once you went over the first 30 minutes) but that is because the reception is keeping a very close eye on this. Sure, there can be exceptions, a regular might get a freebie (in time or extras), but again this would be an exception.
The girls are told to shower with the clients after. In fact, supervisors will come and ask regulars about the performance of the girl and as well if she asked for shower after the room. This started about 2 years ago. Shower time does not count as service time, it's just part of the Globe idea of delivering a great client experience, the wow factor after which they are these days.
Having dinner with a girl is not so uncommon in the case of regulars or big spenders. You probably won't have dinner with the girl if you went for the CHF 80 service.[/QUOTE]Not all girls propose shower after room, and very different kind of showers with girls.
On 29 March and 5 April, I left Globe after a good diner, my only meal of busy day, but without room, desk and the manager wanted to know what happened, I refused to answer, I could go with Misha or Megan or Raïssa, but I was too concentrate on my ski tour, so I would not have enjoyed, so I preferred not to go.
I always try to never speak about money with girls, money talks kill my desire and pleasure.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2175910]That seems a bit harsh. Plus, it leaves a false impression. There was a large change in the law. But the impact on actual practice has been less.
The main change that impacts customers is that bareback oral and intercourse have been declared illegal. Condoms must be used. Or so the law states. But in practice most sex workers who allowed BB services in the past still do. But it occurs less in public areas than before. Because the law only penalizes men, and is therefore virtually unenforcible, few providers stopped BB services they provided before. Some have tried to exploit the situation by charging more. Market forces have kept things relatively stable though both in terms of services and price.
But be sure to negotiate services, discreetly, and don't make assumptions.[/QUOTE]I thought you haven't been to Germany in a year? Have you witnesses these changes first hand to be giving reliable intel?
My experience is that upselling in general has risen in correlation to the new laws.
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Theory and reality can be different.
[QUOTE=MooseNibbler;2175899]Well yes, that's what I meant when I said I've been out of the loop for a while. Thank you for pointing me specifically to. July 1st; that detail led me to the information I needed. So aside from no more BBBJ, have you guys felt much of an impact from the new law as customers?[/QUOTE]Felt no impact, and I was never concerned from the outset, where some friends seemed quite concerned. I always had a wait and see philosophy, re what would be the real impact? Perhaps very little.
I for one can't remember when I last had a CBJ, or attempted one. It could have been years ago in the Palace. It is true that very nice DFK can give me a hard on, and then get a condom on directly. Yes there have been odd occasions when I skipped BJ altogether but not that frequent.
The change I experience is that girls usually require a decent amount of money to perform at their best. 50 often does not cut it, unless for a 10 minute quickie perhaps. I don't know which girls are still at their best for 50.
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[QUOTE=Nympholepsy;2176222]Felt no impact, and I was never concerned from the outset, where some friends seemed quite concerned. I always had a wait and see philosophy, re what would be the real impact? Perhaps very little.
I for one can't remember when I last had a CBJ, or attempted one. It could have been years ago in the Palace. It is true that very nice DFK can give me a hard on, and then get a condom on directly. Yes there have been odd occasions when I skipped BJ altogether but not that frequent.
The change I experience is that girls usually require a decent amount of money to perform at their best. 50 often does not cut it, unless for a 10 minute quickie perhaps. I don't know which girls are still at their best for 50.[/QUOTE]Had a great time today at Oase despite the LU being kinda mediocre from 12 pm-4 pm (I hung around outside mostly, since the weather was great). Unfortunately I wasn't really up for more than 1 today, so I had to turn away most of the girls until Lisa (claims to be from Italy) approached me inside. She has a squeaky voice (keeps saying she has a tiny pussy) and is rather tan. Did BBBJ even after I told her I was giving her 50 Eur, overall great service and absolutely would return to do her again.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2176124]I thought you haven't been to Germany in a year? Have you witnesses these changes first hand to be giving reliable intel?
My experience is that upselling in general has risen in correlation to the new laws.[/QUOTE]Suffice it to say that I am in touch with the situation. When others were lighting their hair on fire, over time my skepticism about the degree of change the new law would cause has been confirmed by many others.
In what I posted I allowed there might be some upselling. Your comment doesn't quantify the degree of increase of upselling. I don't think it's been all that much. If your personal experience is that it is frequent, perhaps you should adjust how you negotiate with these girls, or go to one of the many places it hasn't made a bit of difference.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2175817]This will be my last response on the topic. Prices are 160 to 280 an hour depending on the service you want. So, 200 an hour is somewhere in the lower end of that range. For the girls this is a very nice fee and mostly they are OK with it. Take into account that if you come in a super busy day where the girls make that money anyway, maybe it is possible that they won't go for it. It really is subjective. It isn't negotiable to say give me everything for 30 minutes. It is negotiable when you are reasonable and going for an hour. Your behavior and attitude also count. I wish you luck, if you visit.[/QUOTE]In other words: systematic scamming!
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2176337]In what I posted I allowed there might be some upselling. Your comment doesn't quantify the degree of increase of upselling. I don't think it's been all that much. If your personal experience is that it is frequent, perhaps you should adjust how you negotiate with these girls, or go to one of the many places it hasn't made a bit of difference.[/QUOTE]2018 Oase is just like 2017 Oase. Expect poor rooms from top girls at 50 Euro. Usually good rooms at 100 Euro / hours.
Sharks' upselling has increased considerably in the last 8 months especially with the better lookers.
Mainhattain has gone to shit.
Without first hand knowledge myself, there are consistent reports of no BBBJ or charged BBBJ at Palace.
As you can see, there are not many places left to go in Hessen without facing upsells. World?
Even NRW is not spared. Samya girls have become more discriminate as who gets BBBJ for free. Oceans has also upped their upselling of BBBJ. In fact, there was a posting earlier today about 30 euro for DFK and BBBJ. While the situation has resolved itself at Aca, there were a few months when girls charged an extra 10-20 euro for BBBJ.
My negotiation skills are just fine in situations when I choose to negotiate as I never pay more than 50 for half hours and 100 for an hour. There is just more resistance to the 50 euro / HR. Most of my accounts come from over 50 club visits in four 2-3 week trips since July 1st, 2017. Where is your intel and advice from?
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Re: Out of the loop.
[QUOTE=MooseNibbler;2175476]I've been out of the loop for a while, and I'm just returning- I'm curious to know if you commented that they may not be around forever because of some specific trend that has been happening while I've been away, or if it's just a generic sentiment? The last time I indulged was at least two or three years back, and I'm not sure if there have been any major changes in that time.[/QUOTE]The new laws enacted last June may just be the beginning in Germany. A Google search can tell you the specifics. We have seen legal changes in various European countries regarding such activities. The sex business is huge in Germany but many of these clubs are not operated by Germans. So who makes the case for the industry if politicians attack? There is no reason that the workers cannot be properly protected and such businesses continue. But as in my country some just cannot mind their own business.
My comment was pure speculation. I hope these clubs remain in operation until I am too old for my visits to be worthwhile.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2173734]Common scam. They always say this. When they say this, I always just answer, "Yeah, I know. I am not taking the train. My friend is meeting me there.".[/QUOTE]They scam on so many levels, 5 euro extra for late night trips to Friedrichshain, refusing to take claiming it isn't their turn, not turning on the meter and asking for 20+ euro's. It costs 10-12 euros night time to Friedrichshain not a cent more. If they ask for more, say that you want a receipt and you will call to verify in the morning. I had one young Turkish driver start screaming at for the 5 euro extra outside my hotel.
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Oase: CAUTION, Lots of problems today but still fun
First to be put it briefly, a word of caution: Saturdays may not be the best time to show up at Oase but beyond that I seemed to experience upselling and significant attempts to rip-off from a line-up that consists of a large number of new girls.
If any of you read the report of [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=2148396#post2148396] my first visit[/url] two months ago, you'll know that I did really like this place and still do, but the line-up that I saw had undergone some changes in that time and all around worse pricing and service would make me discourage people from going on a Saturday, which I can only assume is the busiest day of the week. (From word of mouth, I've heard that Sharks also has large upswings in pricing on this day).
Headed to Oase with on Saturday with Triptogamont, arriving at 3 pm and leaving at closing time, 4:30 am.
The customer / girl ratio was way out of whack when we arrived, something along the lines of 10/1. Though of course this is the time when the girls just start arriving, for most of the rest of the evening, I would estimate it did not get anywhere near a good ratio, remaining at a stable 3/1 (to put it clearly 1 girl for every 3 customers).
It was a sunny day so that outside area was open and full of people. I'm willing to say that I saw more middle-aged male Italian ass than the type was looking for, outside. It got to the point that I was afraid that I might have caught Oase on a weekly Gay Night. Most of the girls regardless concentrate their activities inside, in the lounge / Kino and hallways.
And the law of supply and demand and resulting weakness in bargaining power was in effect, with the first several girls I was approached by or approached, offering maybe a minimum of 1 hour for 100 euros, or as was the case several times 100 euros for 30 minutes. Before even negociating for CBJ or kissing of course. Yes, I did find some that would do 50 but then without kissing and of course CBJ.
Please contrast this with my experience last time where there was only 1 girl that I noticed that stuck at 100 for 30 price scale.
Worse, there have been changes to the line-up with the proportion of sharkie Barbies asking for ridiculous prices and likely offering mediocre service, increasing over others. What is a bad sign that may not occur to people visiting, is that several of the new LU is very new (I heard from some: a week, 3 days, 2 months) and do not speak German, which forced me to revert to English, which potentially locks me into a tourist-trap situation, where the girls proceed to make ridiculous offers. Apart from this, some of these girls are extremely stuck up which is a turn-off on so many levels, but this is also from experience, the sign of bad service providers banking on their looks and the stupidity of new customers. I could be wrong, but behaviour of not smiling back (I don't think the botox stuffed lips are the reason), Asian-hunting, going after one member of your group ignoring you then targetting you when they fail (actual quote "I know you want me"), are hooks, or at least they are not for me.
This time, as well as last, Asian hunting (I'm not trying to be facetious or offensive) was clear to see. Blonde girls approaching Asian guys like shooting fish in a barrel, however I wasn't expecting to now myself be fair game to their tactics.
To my shock, I got accosted by two of them who offered me (no joke) 30 minutes, 100 euros for each of them, lesbian show in the room, no details about actual service in the room ( Keine Ahnung ? You don't know what you're even offering?) etc etc.
Another approached in the kino, where I cut through the BS and immediately gave her my offer, she gave her out of the range counteroffer, I refused and just ignored her (most of the time I do refuse politely with a smile). At this point, I was wondering whether dating is less trouble than navigating this shit.
I stuck to my guns and was fully willing to leave without a room if things kept on like this. People do not travel this far out of the city for 100 euro mediocre service, or to my mind (see my RLD posts), even for a 50 euro session with no kissing and plastic blowjob, which you can have two for in the RLD with no entry fee. Or even better maybe, just rub yourself and hump some oily saran wrap.
Eventually however I gave in a little on the kissing , and with the introduction from one of my sessions last time, took Francinella (or something similar), slim 25 year-old (Romanian or Moldovan, who apparently changes her name twice a week). Session was good, (actually very good I guess, as I believe I had a double orgasm) but also I had enough tension to unleash as I waited till 12 (to be honest, not because none were necessarily possible before, but because I take my time anyway before chosing though usually not this much time...).
Then later around 4 am, dark fluent-German speaking Joanna (German / Kurdish, 23) who also clearly knew she was doing and whose session I did enjoy, before leaving.
No duds, nothing wasted
What other remarks are there? The African girls and 1 Cuban from last time were gone, making the LU a bit less diverse, but whatever.
Getting to experience the outside area was great and it was a sunny day. The food was good, available all the way into the early morning. Apart from my sessions, the girls, outside of the Barbie Shark circle, were fine and friendly, talkative, as long as you're nice back and try to build rapport. I noticed that the girls do notice when you've been there before (even if it was months ago).
I still enjoyed Oase, but I saw some worrying signs here today. No point in coming this far if what I saw here starts to become the norm. I would suggest not coming on a Saturday if you can help it, but the new members of the LU and the culture of upselling I saw makes me wonder where and hope that it was just because of the day. I'm curious how things have been lately on other days of the week?
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2176609]
I still enjoyed Oase, but I saw some worrying signs here today.I would suggest not coming on a Saturday if you can help it, but the new members of the LU and the culture of upselling I saw makes me wonder where and hope that it was just because of the day. I'm curious how things have been lately on other days of the week?[/QUOTE]Lanthano,
Excellent report and I hope you enjoyed the company of Sir Trip. Next time I see you perhaps in Dietzenbach (bring your beer goggles.) Anyway, what you have written about is partly why I passed on putting forth any effort at Oase last trip and instead did that in Darmstadt. I have lived my whole life charting, following and using trend lines to play the market spent many years in the trading pits and I tend to jump on and off trend lines. The trend is your friend but sometimes hopping off the trend line pays dividends.
This past trip I knew the outdoors was rocking only adding to the attraction of Oase on top of every report from the ISG to elsewhere indicating the masses flocking to Oase. My thought was with so many months of guys ranting and raving about Oase that simple math told me there is only a finite number of guys that attend Oase and Sharks on any given random day. If the pool going to one increases common sense is the pool of men going to the other decreases. Life is often like my sports bets, when all the money comes in on one team or all the action is one sided I go the other way. I sniffed nothing but pure opportunity in Sharks. I have to maximize my bang for the Euro with limited time on trips and I saw every reason to go to Sharks.
My theories paid off at least for me. The Sharks were sweethearts. They were kind. They were not greedy. They happily accepted 50 e offers including bareback blowjobs. Even Domenica was doing non rushed 50 e rooms having learned on her 3 or 4 month probation that she too can get 100 e out of me if she slows down her 50 zimmers and is not the one pushing for upsells. Patritzia happily played ball with a smile for 50 e. No upselling unless I wanted to upsell myself which for me is fine as I do it myself and do not exceed market. Sharks was not as crowded. I left Oase early and when I did it was a sausage fest in that pool or shall I say a Doner fest, Turks were everywhere! Loud, pushy and vociferous. That is my time to leave a club. At night when the Turks show up it is time to get in a taxi and depart. Kaput!
At Sharks it was peaceful. No Doner fests until much later (that is when I left to hop in a taxi) I had a great two days. Sharks was all white tourists, blacks, Asians and German locals all with good manners. No pushy Turkish boyfriends crowding the joint up pushing and shoving with no manners so I stayed much later and fucked more women.
We all have to do what is best for us and for me going to Sharks was the best option but not knocking Oase, or the guys going there I hope they are all having fun but the very situation you encountered was the very reasoning I had and sniffed out the hungry Sharks rather than the overfucked Oase girls who are well aware of the trends themselves. I did what I felt was ideal for me, and by no means am I knocking Oase. I do not necessarily think the sky is falling at Oase at all it was just that I thought at that date, that trip and that specific time period that for me Sharks was going to offer me a better time. In 3 weeks that may change.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2176609]The customer / girl ratio was way out of whack when we arrived, something along the lines of 10/1. Though of course this is the time when the girls just start arriving, for most of the rest of the evening, I would estimate it did not get anywhere near a good ratio, remaining at a stable 3/1 (to put it clearly 1 girl for every 3 customers).
I would suggest not coming on a Saturday if you can help it, but the new members of the LU and the culture of upselling I saw makes me wonder where and hope that it was just because of the day. I'm curious how things have been lately on other days of the week?[/QUOTE]Sounds like you hit Oase on an especially bad Saturday night. 10-to-1 seems like Messe or Sylvester ratios.
Oase management has always been hands-off policing the girls. Nevertheless, you brought up some good points. 50 EUR CBJ can be had in RLD without paying entry fee.
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Saw quite a few Oase girls at Sharks last week, I heard Oase isn't that great for the girls at the moment (but that was just 1 girl). Found Sharks disappointing as well BTW, mostly the same girls as half a year ago, but often with a few extra kilos. Still too much upsell to really have fun.
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Isn't Weekend Generally Poor?
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2176609]First to be put it briefly, a word of caution: Saturdays may not be the best time to show up at Oase but beyond that I seemed to experience upselling and significant attempts to rip-off from a line-up that consists of a large number of new girls.
If any of you read the report of [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=2148396#post2148396] my first visit[/url] two months ago, you'll know that I did really like this place and still do, but the line-up that I saw had undergone some changes in that time and all around worse pricing and service would make me discourage people from going on a Saturday, which I can only assume is the busiest day of the week. (From word of mouth, I've heard that Sharks also has large upswings in pricing on this day).
Headed to Oase with on Saturday with Triptogamont, arriving at 3 pm and leaving at closing time, 4:30 am.
The customer / girl ratio was way out of whack when we arrived, something along the lines of 10/1. Though of course this is the time when the girls just start arriving, for most of the rest of the evening, I would estimate it did not get anywhere near a good ratio, remaining at a stable 3/1 (to put it clearly 1 girl for every 3 customers).
It was a sunny day so that outside area was open and full of people. I'm willing to say that I saw more middle-aged male Italian ass than the type was looking for, outside. It got to the point that I was afraid that I might have caught Oase on a weekly Gay Night. Most of the girls regardless concentrate their activities inside, in the lounge / Kino and hallways.
And the law of supply and demand and resulting weakness in bargaining power was in effect, with the first several girls I was approached by or approached, offering maybe a minimum of 1 hour for 100 euros, or as was the case several times 100 euros for 30 minutes. Before even negociating for CBJ or kissing of course. Yes, I did find some that would do 50 but then without kissing and of course CBJ.
Please contrast this with my experience last time where there was only 1 girl that I noticed that stuck at 100 for 30 price scale.
Worse, there have been changes to the line-up with the proportion of sharkie Barbies asking for ridiculous prices and likely offering mediocre service, increasing over others. What is a bad sign that may not occur to people visiting, is that several of the new LU is very new (I heard from some: a week, 3 days, 2 months) and do not speak German, which forced me to revert to English, which potentially locks me into a tourist-trap situation, where the girls proceed to make ridiculous offers. Apart from this, some of these girls are extremely stuck up which is a turn-off on so many levels, but this is also from experience, the sign of bad service providers banking on their looks and the stupidity of new customers. I could be wrong, but behaviour of not smiling back (I don't think the botox stuffed lips are the reason), Asian-hunting, going after one member of your group ignoring you then targetting you when they fail (actual quote "I know you want me"), are hooks, or at least they are not for me.
This time, as well as last, Asian hunting (I'm not trying to be facetious or offensive) was clear to see. Blonde girls approaching Asian guys like shooting fish in a barrel, however I wasn't expecting to now myself be fair game to their tactics.
To my shock, I got accosted by two of them who offered me (no joke) 30 minutes, 100 euros for each of them, lesbian show in the room, no details about actual service in the room ( Keine Ahnung ? You don't know what you're even offering?) etc etc.
Another approached in the kino, where I cut through the BS and immediately gave her my offer, she gave her out of the range counteroffer, I refused and just ignored her (most of the time I do refuse politely with a smile). At this point, I was wondering whether dating is less trouble than navigating this shit.
I stuck to my guns and was fully willing to leave without a room if things kept on like this. People do not travel this far out of the city for 100 euro mediocre service, or to my mind (see my RLD posts), even for a 50 euro session with no kissing and plastic blowjob, which you can have two for in the RLD with no entry fee. Or even better maybe, just rub yourself and hump some oily saran wrap.
Eventually however I gave in a little on the kissing , and with the introduction from one of my sessions last time, took Francinella (or something similar), slim 25 year-old (Romanian or Moldovan, who apparently changes her name twice a week). Session was good, (actually very good I guess, as I believe I had a double orgasm) but also I had enough tension to unleash as I waited till 12 (to be honest, not because none were necessarily possible before, but because I take my time anyway before chosing though usually not this much time...).
Then later around 4 am, dark fluent-German speaking Joanna (German / Kurdish, 23) who also clearly knew she was doing and whose session I did enjoy, before leaving.
No duds, nothing wasted
What other remarks are there? The African girls and 1 Cuban from last time were gone, making the LU a bit less diverse, but whatever.
Getting to experience the outside area was great and it was a sunny day. The food was good, available all the way into the early morning. Apart from my sessions, the girls, outside of the Barbie Shark circle, were fine and friendly, talkative, as long as you're nice back and try to build rapport. I noticed that the girls do notice when you've been there before (even if it was months ago).
I still enjoyed Oase, but I saw some worrying signs here today. No point in coming this far if what I saw here starts to become the norm. I would suggest not coming on a Saturday if you can help it, but the new members of the LU and the culture of upselling I saw makes me wonder where and hope that it was just because of the day. I'm curious how things have been lately on other days of the week?[/QUOTE]I would think Saturday night would be the worst and is in many places worldwide. The more wealthy business men are not in town and the girls know it. So you get the double whammy of the locals showing up and many of the girls NOT showing up and voila sausage fest. Seems unfortunate but I think it is often true.
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[QUOTE=ListerL;2176295]Had a great time today at Oase despite the LU being kinda mediocre from 12 pm-4 pm (I hung around outside mostly, since the weather was great). Unfortunately I wasn't really up for more than 1 today, so I had to turn away most of the girls until Lisa (claims to be from Italy) approached me inside. She has a squeaky voice (keeps saying she has a tiny pussy) and is rather tan. Did BBBJ even after I told her I was giving her 50 Eur, overall great service and absolutely would return to do her again.[/QUOTE]Agree re line up till 4 PM.
It is well known now that the line up starts improving a lot at 4 PM. Morning is relax time for a lot of guys so they don't need a huge number of morning girls. If there was a morning stunner or two, they can corner the market.
Plenty of regular Oase customers do not have a fuck for their first few hours. Personally I would prefer to fuck before breakfast, but it is very dependent on finding the right girl.
The rooms normally do not become fully utilised till evening, perhaps 8. 30 or 9 pm on a busy day, and even then, there are plenty of spare girls, in case of sex in the garden, etc. It is also well known that almost all guys underestimate the number of girls working. Even experienced guys typically report 50 girls when there are actually 75, at girl cross over time (like 8 PM), or 70 when there are actually 100+.
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TripToOase
Most of this has been covered in Lanthano's report, but I'll throw my version of events here also.
I thanked Lanthano for torturing me on the stairs of the RLD, then asked if he wanted to hit the FKK of his choice (knowing he didn't enjoy his first / last / only visit to my first choice) Saturday. Then I promptly crashed for about 12 hours straight. Luckily, I checked this site when I woke up to find a response asking if I wanted to try out Oaze. Why not? I had never been.
We met at the S-bahn and rode the S5 to the end to Friedrichsdorf. Then a quick cab to Oase, which is basically in the middle of nowhere next to at least one farm. You can smell the cow pasture as soon as you step out of the cab.
We paid our 50 euro reduced entry because we got there before 4 PM. Showered and changed into robes, then wandered around a bit. At first glance through the eyes of a noob, the place is really nicely done. Clean tile inside. Wonderful outdoor facilities. If only it didn't smell like a farm outside. And if only there had been more than maybe 10 girls there in the afternoon. Seriously, the ratio was horrendous until the evening. It wasn't too bad for me, as I had a full day of mongering the day before. But as Lanthano says, I would have preferred to see more female ass than male. Things did pick up later, but the ratio never did get to our favor and it showed in the sharkiness of the working girls.
Once more girls showed up, the place did have an atmosphere of a drug lord or mega-celebrity party. The weather was fantastic and several beautiful naked girls parading around. The food was good, especially in the afternoon and I enjoyed the hot tub.
But it took me a LONG time to find a girl to room with. First, when I asked for DFK and BBBJ, every girl quoted 100 Euro. And at first, none of them would come down from there. I must have talked with 6-7 girls (sorry, I don't remember their names). So I figured maybe I would just get me 50 Euro worth of food and eye candy and be done with it.
Eventually, I found Ella (I think that's her name). Petite blond with several tattoos. Pretty face, very thin. Perky, real breasts. I haggled her down to 50 Euro so off to the room! Well, her BJ was very lackluster, and her DFK was missing the the and the F. The FS was decent, but she would check to make sure the condom was on every 5th stroke. After a couple of position changes, I finished in K9. Overall, I would rate her M for meh and would not repeat.
Lanthano and I spent a LONG time at Oaze. Mostly complaining about the lack of available women. The real lookers were monopolized most of the night and none of them would budge from their pricing. Hey, if they were making it, I can't blame them. But I stopped negotiating after a while. I would just say that I wanted DFK and BBBJ for 50 Euro. If the girl didn't agree immediately, I would just decline and excuse myself politely.
Eventually, I was approached by Rowanna (I could be way off on her name). Black hair, average height. Facial piercings and a couple of tattoos. Small, pointy, real breasts. She asked if we could sit down and for some reason I said yes. I didn't think I would have another zimmer in me, especially with a party hat on. I told her I was too tired for another room, but she stroked me to life in 0. 05 seconds and smiled. When she agreed on my pricing we went to the room. This session was very well done. Excellent BBBJ. Good FS in multiple positions. Then a nice BJ / HJ finish.
I spent the rest of the night fantasizing about some of the beautiful eye candy. There were 3-4 girls I would rate a 9. 5 on the Tripter Scale. I guess I also spent a lot of time fending off the advances of some of the more aggressive girls. Even when I told them Little Trip was done and sleeping, I had a few tell me they would give me a nice massage in the room. Really? Sorry honey, find someone else. Some of them made it very difficult to avoid being rude.
Eventually, the night wound to an end. We closed the place down at 430 AM. Cabbed back to the S-bahn, and rode the train back to Frankfurt as the sun started rising. Not a problem for me, being on US time, but I hope it didn't royally screw up Lanthano's body clock.
Overall, I had a very good time. Lanthano is a great guy to hang out with. If I had been by myself, I would never have stayed so long. But it didn't FEEL like we had been there 13+ hours. One meh room, and one pretty good room. All the food I could eat (I never ate anywhere else that day). Some wonderful eye candy (I can't believe I used to frequent strip clubs in the US! I might go back just for the atmosphere. But I'd pick a weekday and hope there were more girls than guys to help my bargaining power.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2176403]2018 Oase is just like 2017 Oase. Expect poor rooms from top girls at 50 Euro. Usually good rooms at 100 Euro / hours.
Sharks' upselling has increased considerably in the last 8 months especially with the better lookers.
Mainhattain has gone to shit.
Without first hand knowledge myself, there are consistent reports of no BBBJ or charged BBBJ at Palace.
As you can see, there are not many places left to go in Hessen without facing upsells. World?
Even NRW is not spared. Samya girls have become more discriminate as who gets BBBJ for free. Oceans has also upped their upselling of BBBJ. In fact, there was a posting earlier today about 30 euro for DFK and BBBJ. While the situation has resolved itself at Aca, there were a few months when girls charged an extra 10-20 euro for BBBJ.
My negotiation skills are just fine in situations when I choose to negotiate as I never pay more than 50 for half hours and 100 for an hour. There is just more resistance to the 50 euro / HR. Most of my accounts come from over 50 club visits in four 2-3 week trips since July 1st, 2017. Where is your intel and advice from?[/QUOTE]This is useful information. Thanks for that. But my main concern in posting about this has not been about upselling. The push at mainstream clubs for hour rather than half hour sessions has always been there. Maybe it has increased. Upcharging for BBBJ is, in part, an excuse to raise prices in a market where prices have been fixed for at least 10 years. Price increases, frankly, are overdue even without the new law.
But like I said, my concern hasn't been upselling so much as sheer availability. That's where the disaster has been predicted. The RTC clubs still have BBBJ and especially AO available. It's not as openly reported, but folks I speak with about the RTC's in messaging, and folks who post reports, confirm the change has not been great. Certainly not great enough to stop visiting.
Part of the reason I harp on this is that the law per se is unenforcible. So changes in availability of BB services is going to be set to a large part by the expectations of the customers. If guys assume it's not available, and they stop asking, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts.
Many years ago when I first started this and was new to the Amsterdam RLD it was "common wisdom" that kissing and BBBJ were simply not available. Not part of the culture. Don't even bother to ask because you might just get thrown out entirely. Then one day I dared to broach the topic with my favorite girl. (The long gone and popular Kim (aka Kim2) on Bethlehemsteeg.) She was totally fine with it.
As in so many things, if you ask you may or may not get what you want. But if you stop asking, you surely won't get what you want.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2176843]But like I said, my concern hasn't been upselling so much as sheer availability. That's where the disaster has been predicted. The RTC clubs still have BBBJ and especially AO available. It's not as openly reported, but folks I speak with about the RTC's in messaging, and folks who post reports, confirm the change has not been great. Certainly not great enough to stop visiting.
Part of the reason I harp on this is that the law per se is unenforcible. So changes in availability of BB services is going to be set to a large part by the expectations of the customers. If guys assume it's not available, and they stop asking, it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts.[/QUOTE]I will agree with you on that I also do not think that BBBJ is going anywhere anytime soon as the law is essentially unenforceable so long as the clubs themselves do not put pressure on the girls. At clubs like Palace and Mainhattan where this is the case, BBBJ may not have disappeared but is no longer a sure bet and CBJ did become more prevalent, if not standard.
The point is made for the original poster who asked the question of whether things have changed much in the past couple of years since he's been gone. There are some obvious changes. The FKK system and culture are generally the same, but since July 1st and subsequently January 1st, upselling has made a noticeable push forward with BBBJ being a common point of sale. At Mainhattan and Palace, is can BBBJ be expected even half of the time? And as we can see at clubs like Oceans, BBBJJ is now being packaged with DFK and DATY in the upsell process.
What's more concerning regarding change, and this is mostly speculation with some preliminary data, will new talent continue to arrive with registration being enforced? I have not seen much new talent in my 2 trips to Germany this year. I've only noticed 1 new attractive girl, Omania at Acapulco; and I'm not even positive if she is brand new to Germany.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2176843]
As in so many things, if you ask you may or may not get what you want. But if you stop asking, you surely won't get what you want.[/QUOTE]Asking however can be viewed as an invitation to negotiate. Easier to just to go to room and expect "certain" minimum services. If girl doesn't want to deliver certain basic services, just walk out (assuming you haven't received any services at that point yet) -- you'll see how quickly the girl changes her tune. Plenty of girls who are ready to take that girl's spot who are ready to deliver good services.
Just another approach. Works for me. Of course, other approaches work better for other folks.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2176867]Asking however can be viewed as an invitation to negotiate. Easier to just to go to room and expect "certain" minimum services. If girl doesn't want to deliver certain basic services, just walk out (assuming you haven't received any services at that point yet) -- you'll see how quickly the girl changes her tune. Plenty of girls who are ready to take that girl's spot who are ready to deliver good services.
Just another approach. Works for me. Of course, other approaches work better for other folks.[/QUOTE]Yes, good to point out the various approaches. I just meant "asking" in the most general sense. Expressing somewhere somehow that you want, nay expect, BB services. The more guys don't communicate that expectation somehow the less available (or more expensive) it will become.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2176843]Price increases, frankly, are overdue even without the new law.[/QUOTE]Disagree. If they abolished the 30 minute sessions tomorrow, and declared 100 EUR for 60 minutes to be the new base offering, even though not technically a price increase, that would impact business. Likewise if they raised prices to 70 EUR for 30 min. Fly-in sex tourists, hardcore local mongers, and travelling businessmen would accept the price increase and continue to attend. But I believe the core customers, the casual mongers and more "normal men" are more price-sensitive and will attend less.
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2176843]
But like I said, my concern hasn't been upselling so much as sheer availability.
[/QUOTE]This is the statement of an addict. I too am an addict. I suspect the same thing happens whenever the prices for cigarettes go up: the addicts continue to pay and casuals quit or cut back. For this reason, I can't see the managers of the clubs "co-signing" a price increase anytime soon. Club managers don't want to alienate 75% of their customer base. From their perspective, there is no reason for an increase. There is an endless supply of Romanian and Bulgarian WGs who are willing to ply their trade in the clubs for 50 EUR /30 MIN.
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Part of the reason I harp on this is that the law per se is unenforcible.[/QUOTE]Again they don't have to catch anyone in the act for there to be consequences. The 2017 laws were passed to address the mistakes of the 2002 legalization. The ultimate goal of the 2017 laws was to improve working conditions for WGs. If the 2017 laws once again prove ineffective, politicians might just throw up their hands and impose the Swedish model. Even if this scenario plays out, BBBJ would still be available like you say, but does anyone want to pay Swedish prices?
I have never understood your emphasis for being caught in the act. In relative terms, very few pimps have been caught in the act in Germany. Yet the German authorities believe the pimping problem to be epidemic. Laws have been enacted to protect WGs based on the suspicion that 90 percent are pimped. They of course cannot prove that 90 percent are pimped. Because a pimp can easily coerce or manipulate the WG to deny that she is being pimped. She can exonerate him by simply telling the authorities that he is her BF. No law against sharing money with your BF that I know of.
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McAdonis and UltraHappy (and Trip and Lanthano)
McAdonis. Excellent comments. There is a plentiful supply of girls who consider they make a good living at 50 or 40 per half hour. The fact that the girls in some clubs are creating a minimum of 100 is not a reflection of their poverty, but that their aim is to be extremely rich: these girls have so many stories about legendary girls who made their fortunes (that is, with customers who pay tens of thousands). If one looks at romanian society it is corrupt from top to bottom with politicians, police, and so on, squeezing every cent they can out of their positions and, in gypsy culture, massive wealth is an essential sign of being a worthy person. Why should romanian prostitutes be any different. So price rises in FKK would change nothing: the girls would continue to try to introduce further upsells.(Just to ensure no confusion, I really like romanians, and gypsies (the most victimised ethnic group in europe))
As you say being caught in the illegal act is not really a significant issue at the moment. I am astonished this is still being discussed. Nobody has ever seriously suggested the law will be enforced in this way, except in rare cases as has happened in Bayern. Maybe I am wrong however and things will evolve
UltraHappy. You are dead right. I always try that and don't negotiate. But I am such a wimp that I almost never do the walking out part :(
Sorry to butt in on the Oase thread when there are such excellent reports from Triptogamont and Lanthano
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I agree with most McA and Optimist says here, but a few things needs correction: Swedish prices are higher than German prices, but not even close to swizz prices. In fact, the Swedish model did nothing in regards to changing the prices in Sweden. The only thing that made a dent on the Swedish prices were the extension of EU in 2007 to include Romania and Bulgaria. That in fact lowered the prices in Sweden.
Inflation works for everyone, and inflation rates suggest a fair price would be 60 e instead of 50 e for the clubs that has had unchanged prices for a long time. Then again, some clubs especially in NRW used to be even cheaper than 50 e a few years ago, so they have had some price increases, but not much as a whole.
There is a big difference between 60 euro and 80 or even 100 euro. 60 would be fine for most I assume, but standard pricing models would suggest an increase to 80 or even 100 would alienate large proportions of the market like McA says.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2176906]I have never understood your emphasis for being caught in the act.[/QUOTE]For the law to be enforceable there would have to be a way for cops to discover and prove that a given man on a given occasion is having or had condom-less sex.
How might they do that?
(1) The police randomly barge through the closed room doors and demand to check the guy's erection.
(2) The sex worker reports having condom-less with the man and somehow leads the police to him.
There are only disincentives for the sex worker to do (2). They would be admitting to contributing to law breaking and get in trouble with the FKK operators.
There have been less than a handful of reports of anything like (1) happening. If (1) became common enough to be effective, it would impact innocent customers following the law in a highly objectionable way. Legitimate businesses would lose legitimate customers, and what was enforcement would become harassment. It's simply not an extensible enforcement mechanism.
So if (1) and (2) can't make the law enforceable, what is (3)? Because without (3) the law is indeed unenforcible.
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In which culture is wealth not celebrated? Poor and meek might get the nod from Jesus and Matthew and Luke, but not from Jack and Jill that you meet in everyday life. Ask anyone from any country, they will say the rich and powerul and connected have a different set of rules. And the wealthy in every society lobby or bully or do whatever they need to do to increase their already high amount of wealth and power in anyway possible, legal or illegal.
Even religion is not immune. Billy Graham was famous for being a preacher to the presidents. He gets a state funeral. The truly humble preacher in a small town may need to work two part time jobs to feed his family.
I don't think the Romanian or Gypsy girls are any worse than other WGs, and if they are, it is not because of their corrupt society and upbringing. Upselling is not corruption. You go to Amazon site, and they are pushing a million things for you to buy. Actually, AMZN and Google and FB and others are pushing upsell on you even when you *don't* visit their sites. At least these girls can only upsell you when you actually talk to them.
You can have bad apples anywhere, but I doubt the whole species is rotten.
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Lanthano and Trip.
Great reports, thanks. It sounds like you stuck to your pricing and that had a big impact on the availability of girls, in addition to the Saturday night issue. For example, if you had relaxed on the strict 50 E for BBBJ plus DFK, and had agreed to 100 E /1 HR / BBBJ, what would you estimate is the end result? Many more (girl) takers?
For someone like me flying in from the US, the fixed cost of airfare plus hotel, car etc runs into more than a grand, so I am flexible on the pricing as long as it does not become outrageous.
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All the logic in the world is no good without real data. Many have reported the increase occurrence of CBJ and resistance to BBBJ but you seem to be sticking to your theories. Your harping on enforcibity may make logical theoretical sense to you but the reality remains, the laws have caused CBJ to go up and BBBJ while still prevalent is no longer a guarantee. It seems that you ignore reports about lower rate of BBBJ at Palace, Mainhattan, Samya, and Oceans.
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2177242]For the law to be enforceable there would have to be a way for cops to discover and prove that a given man on a given occasion is having or had condom-less sex.
How might they do that?
(1) The police randomly barge through the closed room doors and demand to check the guy's erection.
(2) The sex worker reports having condom-less with the man and somehow leads the police to him.
There are only disincentives for the sex worker to do (2). They would be admitting to contributing to law breaking and get in trouble with the FKK operators.
There have been less than a handful of reports of anything like (1) happening. If (1) became common enough to be effective, it would impact innocent customers following the law in a highly objectionable way. Legitimate businesses would lose legitimate customers, and what was enforcement would become harassment. It's simply not an extensible enforcement mechanism.
So if (1) and (2) can't make the law enforceable, what is (3)? Because without (3) the law is indeed unenforcible.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2176609]First to be put it briefly, a word of caution: Saturdays may not be the best time to show up at Oase but beyond that I seemed to experience upselling and significant attempts to rip-off from a line-up that consists of a large number of new girls.
If any of you read the report of [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=2148396#post2148396] my first visit[/url] two months ago, you'll know that I did really like this place and still do, but the line-up that I saw had undergone some changes in that time and all around worse pricing and service would make me discourage people from going on a Saturday, which I can only assume is the busiest day of the week. (From word of mouth, I've heard that Sharks also has large upswings in pricing on this day).
Headed to Oase with on Saturday with Triptogamont, arriving at 3 pm and leaving at closing time, 4:30 am.
The customer / girl ratio was way out of whack when we arrived, something along the lines of 10/1. Though of course this is the time when the girls just start arriving, for most of the rest of the evening, I would estimate it did not get anywhere near a good ratio, remaining at a stable 3/1 (to put it clearly 1 girl for every 3 customers)..[/QUOTE]I was at Oase on Saturday 5 May, my mistake. When I left GT at 2 am on Friday night, I said to my friend I would drive to Globe, but I was lazy and stopped to sleep a bit around Dierdorf. I was around Frankfurt around 6.30 am, very blue sky, so I changed my mind for a sunny day in Oase garden, wishing for a new Eve. Oase garden is the most erotic I know in FKK land, with full naked girls laying, taking the sun. Breakfast and BBQ later in the garden. Most of guys were in the garden, not taking girls to room, so, when night team started, many girls were free until 7.30 pm when I decided to leave just after model type Katrin. Bu tried to make me repeat with her. She is pretty, but I know she would not be my new Eve I look for, so I didn't follow her proposition. I also saw Adela, Mady, Anastasia free, the prettiest for me is Vera who was smiling, but even she was lovely behavior in room on March, but not level for a new Eve, so I left to go to meet my friend at Samya. 2 mistakes on same day, compare to Globe girls level, not same planet. Maya was a bit busy. Didn't see Carla.
I saw again the blond who looks like Roxana older sister and a blond with sophisticated hair style, with silicon, who was dancing on the bar at entrance. A new black girl. Average casting for my subjective tastes.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2176906]Disagree. If they abolished the 30 minute sessions tomorrow, and declared 100 EUR for 60 minutes to be the new base offering, even though not technically a price increase, that would impact business. Likewise if they raised prices to 70 EUR for 30 min. Fly-in sex tourists, hardcore local mongers, and travelling businessmen would accept the price increase and continue to attend. But I believe the core customers, the casual mongers and more "normal men" are more price-sensitive and will attend less.
.[/QUOTE]But that just means the latter group (core customers, the casual mongers and more "normal men") are priced out of the market. What is abnormal about it? In their place, the former group you listed (Fly-in sex tourists, hardcore local mongers, and travelling businessmen) would become the new core.
Market is always evolving. No one is entitled to anything. If Ukraine is admitted or Polish and Slovakian economies collapse, many new clubs get built, or this or that happens and the clubs are flooded with a million new girls, and everything including BBBJ, dfk, bls, rim job and other stuff gets thrown in for 50 E, none of us would cry about the plight of poor Romanian girls in the clubs at the moment. Those girls in fact would adjust to the new reality and lower their pricing and up their services (or else, will quit the profession).
Pricing has already shifted up. Reports here say that everyday. Officially price might still be 50E but it buys you less and less. If you previously paid 50E for x, and now you pay 50E for 0. 8x, price has already appreciated whether we acknowledge it or not.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2177268]But that just means the latter group (core customers, the casual mongers and more "normal men") are priced out of the market. What is abnormal about it? In their place, the former group you listed (Fly-in sex tourists, hardcore local mongers, and travelling businessmen) would become the new core.
Market is always evolving. No one is entitled to anything. If Ukraine is admitted or Slovakian economy collapses or this or that happens and the clubs are flooded with a million new girls, or new clubs get built and there is excess supply and everything including BBBJ, rim job and other stuff gets thrown in for 50 E, no one would cry about the poor Romanian girls in the clubs at the moment. Those girls in fact would adjust to the new reality and adjust down their pricing and adjust up their services (or else, will quit the profession).
Pricing has already shifted up. Reports here say that everyday. Officially 50 E might still be 50 E but it buys you less and less. If you previously paid 50 E for x, and now you pay 50 E for 0. 8 x, price has already appreciated whether we acknowledge it or not.[/QUOTE]Agree that the prices have already shifted and hoping that the Ukranians and Slovakians come on over. Doubt it but I'll pray for a Slovakian collapse nonetheless.
Regarding a shift to a new core customer base, although the girls prefer those higher dollar customers, that group is not enough to support all of the FKKs and girls in them. In fact, only places like Sharks, Palace, and Oase have a chance of surviving without casual mongers. With the exception of GT, the entire NRW is full of locals, many of the clubs are primarily supported by the huge local Turkish population that are not big spenders individually.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2177257]
For example, if you had relaxed on the strict 50 E for BBBJ plus DFK, and had agreed to 100 E /1 HR / BBBJ, what would you estimate is the end result? Many more takers?
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Yes that is an option for some.
But to me it's not offering more. It's a way of locking someone in. The good girls do not usually do this. It might as well be 30 minutes with wasted time pegged on. For the locals, 50e with BBBJ and kissing IS standard. Both are the only reason why one would even bother coming to an FKK, rather than elsewhere. That there might be a few asking for this is one thing, but if this were to be standard I would not be coming and nor would most other sane people here.
You're just 100 euros in the hole with someone who may or may not provide good service, unless you've had her before and know.
And for me personally, anything beyond 30 minutes with a girl might as well be marriage anyway.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2177257]
For someone like me flying in from the US, the fixed cost of airfare plus hotel, car etc runs into more than a grand, so I am flexible on the pricing as long as it does not become outrageous.[/QUOTE]My attitude as well. For a 5 night stay with just my overhead I am out $1500-$1700. If I spend an extra 100 e a day that is an extra 500 e for the trip just over $600. IMO the extra 50 e a session to bump from a 30 to 60 min or a basic half and half with CIM makes the girls happier, vastly improved attitude as well which can really make or break a session. If you are going to incur all that overhead in the first place the $600 is splitting hairs. The key though as you say it not to let things get outrageous nor exceeding market rate for whatever session you get (I would hate to upset our fine German hosts).
I think you are right about the 100 though. I have had to hunt for 50, for 100 it is off to the room. Packed or not there is always a 50 to be found IMO even if you have to reduce the optics level. To quote one local girl, ' There is a hooker for every john and a john for every hooker'.
To keep my overhead down I got lucky and found this very upscale brothel not far from Frankfurt with some of the most beautiful and classy women in the world where it only costs 40 e to get a guaranteed BBBJ with your personalized full service that follows and occasionally sometimes a visitor gets a gift for the road, very generous sharing girls.
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Last Saturday. My take.
[QUOTE=Lanthano;2176609]I still enjoyed Oase, but I saw some worrying signs here today. No point in coming this far if what I saw here starts to become the norm. I would suggest not coming on a Saturday if you can help it, but the new members of the LU and the culture of upselling I saw makes me wonder where and hope that it was just because of the day. I'm curious how things have been lately on other days of the week?[/QUOTE]Lanthano/Trip,
Thanks for the reports. Were we all at Oase last Saturday? LOL.
Knowing Saturdays at Oase for many years I can assure you that nothing in your report surprises or is "new". Neither do I think it is something that will "become the norm". It has happened so many times in the past, and will most certainly happen many times in the future. Hey, it's spring, fantastic weather, and finally we can fully enjoy the garden. Of course, everybody was there! And of course, the girls take advantage of the situation.
But these things changes. Fast. Want better F / M ratioes? Pick a day with lousy weather. Pick a weekday in stead of weekends. Pick a day without a large Messe. Maybe arrive earlier in the morning?
Actually, the ratios were far better earlier in the day last Saturday. A couple of gents and 3- 4 girls having breakfast in the sun. Very relaxed. Then more gents arrived, but no girls parading in the sun. I had to look inside. No girls inside either! It was 2 pm. Strange. Then I had a look at the bar were the keys to the rooms are kept. Almost all keys were gone! Basically all the girls from the daytime were busy! I sort of knew by experience how this day would progress. LOL.
3 pm. Lanthano arrives with Trip. And so do a bunch of gents who want to take advantage of the reduced entrance fee prior to 4 pm. But the night shift girls have not yet arrived. No girls available. And there is no food between 4 and 5 pm, so all the gents are laying outside around the pool. Looking at each other. Waiting for the girls. And food. Terrible times.
5 pm. Food is served. And finally, the night shift girls start slowly arriving, and you can again see a few girls between the crowds of men. Not the best ratios, although it got a bit better after 1 am IMO.
To me it was a more or less normal busy Saturday at Oase. Trust me, I have seen it a lot worse; typically when you are waiting 30- 60 mnts for a key to the rooms. Not so much of that this Saturday. Or not to forget the years prior to 2010, when the garden (and the club) was less than half of what it is today. No pool. No air condition. No cabanas / sunbeds to rest. And too few loungers / chairs. It was pretty much standing room only outside all day. LOL!!
TBH I do not care that much about F / M ratios any more. Some gents whine about upselling in a sellers' market when F / M ratios are all wrong. Others complain about increased upselling when the F / M are too good as the girls are too desperate for business. I think both are right and wrong. To me it is more about knowing the girls there. I sort of know who to avoid and who to go with at Oase as it is my "hometown". In the RLD on the other hand, I would be completely lost. I rarely frequent the RLD and would probably struggle hard to find the good providers.
I did four sessions and have no complaints. Four of my top five girls were away and the fifth not in the right mood, so I did three new girls and one semiregular repeat. No interviews prior to room and very little upselling inside. All provided decent kissing, BJ, DATY and CFS in 60 mnts booking (my decision) (100 E). I left happy and completely drained.
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P.S. : If you want to know: The situation at World was pretty much the same on Sunday. Great weather, and the pool area was completely crowded with men. If not for the possibilty to gaze at Alina's still fit ass, it would have been boring around the pool at World. The F/M ratio was somewhat better inside. I did not shop around that much that day (just did two sessions with regulars of mine), but generally speaking there are less upselling at World (although it does exist even there, trust me).
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2177289] Want better F / M ratioes? Pick a day with lousy weather. Pick a weekday in stead of weekends. Pick a day without a large Messe. Maybe arrive earlier in the morning? [/QUOTE]I think that's the lesson from today. Indeed, I'm thinking vengeance by doing just that. Taking another week off and coming on the shittiest day possible to go after one of the Barbie sharks with a non negociable 50 e BBBJ, DFK, session and out of spite adding something icky to it that I wouldn't usually ask for: CIM, ball-licking or analingus.
[QUOTE=Shark16;2177289] All provided decent kissing, BJ, DATY and CFS in 60 mnts booking (100 E). I left happy and completely drained.[/QUOTE]I don't doubt it with prices like that!
That's the point though. They ask for that because on busy days, there are people willing to pay it. But no, it's fair but not everyone is up for 60 minute sessions at a time.
As for me, these are red lines. No 50 e session without these things. I budged slightly on one this time, I will not do so again.
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Enforcibility of the law has little to do with the actual effects on pricing and availability of BBBJ. There however is a direct correlation to when the laws were enacted and the increase prevalence of upsells and higher rates of CBJ.
The quoted logic may make sense but it is sadly not reality.
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2177242]For the law to be enforceable there would have to be a way for cops to discover and prove that a given man on a given occasion is having or had condom-less sex.
How might they do that?
(1) The police randomly barge through the closed room doors and demand to check the guy's erection.
(2) The sex worker reports having condom-less with the man and somehow leads the police to him.
There are only disincentives for the sex worker to do (2). They would be admitting to contributing to law breaking and get in trouble with the FKK operators..[/QUOTE]
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Secret Society
[QUOTE=Shark16;2177289]Lanthano/Trip,
Thanks for the reports. Were we all at Oase last Saturday? LOL.
[/QUOTE]We need some sort of signal so that we can recognize other members of our secret society. How about we all speak loudly and obnoxiously and ***** at the girls about upselling?
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Lanthano is contageous!
[QUOTE=Shark16;2177289]
Want better F / M ratioes?
[/QUOTE]Don't hang out with Lanthano! I have a theory on another board that he is cursed. Ever since I spent time with that guy, the clubs I've been to have had terrible ratios!
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2177277]Yes that is an option for some.
But to me it's not offering more. It's a way of locking someone in. The good girls do not usually do this. It might as well be 30 minutes with wasted time pegged on. For the locals, 50e with BBBJ and kissing IS standard. Both are the only reason why one would even bother coming to an FKK, rather than elsewhere. That there might be a few asking for this is one thing, but if this were to be standard I would not be coming and nor would most other sane people here.
You're just 100 euros in the hole with someone who may or may not provide good service, unless you've had her before and know.
And for me personally, anything beyond 30 minutes with a girl might as well be marriage anyway.[/QUOTE]I'm paying the girl to leave after I pop, which is generally around the 15 to 20 minute mark. There are very few working girls I actually want to hang out with longer than that.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2177272]Agree that the prices have already shifted and hoping that the Ukranians and Slovakians come on over. Doubt it but I'll pray for a Slovakian collapse nonetheless.
Regarding a shift to a new core customer base, although the girls prefer those higher dollar customers, that group is not enough to support all of the FKKs and girls in them. In fact, only places like Sharks, Palace, and Oase have a chance of surviving without casual mongers. With the exception of GT, the entire NRW is full of locals, many of the clubs are primarily supported by the huge local Turkish population that are not big spenders individually.[/QUOTE]Yes, this profession is very much a local business. Makes sense that different prices / quality of services prevail in different locations.
While people fixate on prices, that is very much an observed variable. Pricing does not drive demand and supply, but pricing is determined by demand / supply. These clubs indicate the pricing band, but that band is only a recommendation in reality. Even historically, other than a very basic adherence to the guideline, they did not mean all that much. So, 50 E = BBBJ+CFS, but there was a wide range -- some girls used to give sloppy BBBJ for as long as you wanted with dfk, bls etc etc, some did a couple of licks and mounted the condom and tried to finish off in 10 minutes and not even minimal smooching; others in between. So, the price was 50 E for all of them but what you got in return was very different things. Now, even that is out the window, and girls are setting their own prices with the 50 E as a loose recommendation. Location dependent, naturally.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2177272]Agree that the prices have already shifted and hoping that the Ukranians and Slovakians come on over. Doubt it but I'll pray for a Slovakian collapse nonetheless.
Regarding a shift to a new core customer base, although the girls prefer those higher dollar customers, that group is not enough to support all of the FKKs and girls in them. In fact, only places like Sharks, Palace, and Oase have a chance of surviving without casual mongers. With the exception of GT, the entire NRW is full of locals, many of the clubs are primarily supported by the huge local Turkish population that are not big spenders individually.[/QUOTE]If I understood well business is also under pressure at oase and palace, some girls shitted to Shark which is never a good sign. 2 weeks back were also bad in Shark, globally the things are getting worse year after year due to many different reason, less local regular mongers, less foreign customers with high spending power, but also the decrease of the quality of the offer, less young girls and many veteran girls around for years.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2177272]Agree that the prices have already shifted and hoping that the Ukranians and Slovakians come on over. Doubt it but I'll pray for a Slovakian collapse nonetheless.
Regarding a shift to a new core customer base, although the girls prefer those higher dollar customers, that group is not enough to support all of the FKKs and girls in them. In fact, only places like Sharks, Palace, and Oase have a chance of surviving without casual mongers. With the exception of GT, the entire NRW is full of locals, many of the clubs are primarily supported by the huge local Turkish population that are not big spenders individually.[/QUOTE]I doubt Oase and Sharks would survive without the casual locals too. Not a single club would maybe except Artemis. But even Artemis would see a too large drop in total income. Plus the clubs themselves would hate it due to the lower income from entry fees that would come with this. Don't forget that everyone pays the same in entry fee even if we pay 50 or 500 euros to the girls.
Pricing mechanics are tough, but you never want to loose the mass market. Just look at Tesla. Their model 3 has a much higher income potential than model S and X.
Without the 3'E, there will just be SX, and that is just a combination of random letters. What the girls make money from is S3 X, or sex.
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Jnpr: the problem is just how most girls only thinks in 50's. All other notes are useless to them it seems. And you simply don't increase prices by 100%. Its got to be the most foolish pricing strategy I have ever come across.
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10 Day Trip.
My background: late 20's, here for optics fuck (ideal is busty petite with good face, 18- 20 yo). 2 years since last visit to FKKs. Basic service good for me, don't need GFE.
2 weeks ago.
Day 2: Saturday.
- Steffania: Brunette, 20 yo, Ro, petite body, perky be cups, great perky ass. She has a really bad, rushed attitude. Porn star blowjob but only do it for few minutes and refuses to do more in 50 euro room. I'm okay to hate fuck her for bad attitude, still good room with hot girl. Took me until mid fuck to realize I fucked her on last trip when she was only 18 yo and few months into Oase. Same bad attitude, but amazing body to fuck. Guys seems to only do 30 min room with her.
- Girl 2: don't remember name. 18 yo, brunette, Ro. She is petite, around be cup, and is the younger sister of another beautiful petite girl that's 20 yo here. She doesn't speak much English and said it's her first month. Decent blowjob, she couldn't get on top, noticeable wince when trying to put me in her (I'm only 6 in) so we switch and finish in doggy. Good session for me with hot tight girl. Was thinking of doing sister because sister face is thinner, more defined and body just as hot. Didn't get the chance as sister was booked rest of night.
Overall: Oase was top choice 2 years ago from trip surprisingly. Only few girls really make difference for good club experience and girls like Steffania is best look for me (would prefer bigger breasts, but everything else in body is perfect). No problem getting 50 euro rooms. Kept hearing how they only do 100 euro rooms now, not the case.
Facilities hasn't changed in 2 years. Food is meh, pizza is good. I ordered a calzone and they gave it too me in a pizza because they ran out of the bread haha. Waiter was like "it's an open faced calzone" hahaha, frig.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2176609]First to be put it briefly, a word of caution: Saturdays may not be the best time to show up at Oase but beyond that I seemed to experience upselling and significant attempts to rip-off from a line-up that consists of a large number of new girls.[/QUOTE]Worrying reports of 10/1 ratio. How is the ratio generally during messe? Is it even worth attending Oase during next week (Messe week) or will the ratio be like the reports of this Saturday?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2177535]I doubt Oase and Sharks would survive without the casual locals too. Not a single club would maybe except Artemis. But even Artemis would see a too large drop in total income. Plus the clubs themselves would hate it due to the lower income from entry fees that would come with this. Don't forget that everyone pays the same in entry fee even if we pay 50 or 500 euros to the girls.
Pricing mechanics are tough, but you never want to loose the mass market. Just look at Tesla. Their model 3 has a much higher income potential than model S and X.
Without the 3'E, there will just be SX, and that is just a combination of random letters. What the girls make money from is S3 X, or sex.[/QUOTE]Artemis doesn't care about regulars. It is a money machine.
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FKK Oase. Our last day in Germany.
On the last day with my friends in Germany we went to FKK Oase. We paid the 65 E door fee, showered & then went to get something to eat. Just as we were eating a girl came over to me and bent down kissing both my cheeks. I looked up to see it was Alice who I had a real nice time with on visits over the years. We talked a little and she left. A short time later we ran into Alice again. This time I decided it was payback for one of my friends named Wazz who had played some jokes on me in the past with the girls. As we were talking to Alice I told her Wazz wanted to know if her Breasts were natural or not. Alice laughed and Wazz got a little red faced. Alice then said the only way he was going to find out was 1st hand in the room. At this point Wazz had no option but to take Alice up on her challenge to save face. Pretty much the exact same thing he did to me with Alice 2 years before. They headed off to a room together. Wazz said Alice was OK but nothing great. That surprised me because she was really into it the times I saw her and I had a great time. Wazz said he paid her 100 E without asking the fee. She only wanted 50 E last fall but I gave her 30 E tip because of her great service.
Skip did yet another duo on this trip telling me later that the girls tried to upsell him in the room. He wanted kissing, BBBJ, DATY, sex with condom & CIM. The girls told him it would be 400 E. Skip complained that he could only do CIM with one girl. He said he stuck to his guns and the girls finally agreed to 300 E for the duo. He couldn't remember their names but was happy with their service. Later he saw a slightly heavier glasses girl and got the same services as the duo but the girl also said it was the hour and let him do a 2nd finish. She only wanted 150 E total. Skip got the bargain of the day for that one.
While Skip was gone Wazz and I were outside relaxing when Mya approached him and he went off with her to one of the corner shelters outside. Wazz said she was a nice time for 150 E. Later Wazz saw someone else outside but didn't remember her name.
Later in the evening Mya approached me and we sat in the Cinema area and talked. She also quoted 150 E for 1/2 HR to me but I told that I was only willing to pay 100 E. She kept rubbing her leg against my dick telling me how nice it would be for 150 E. I held out figuring there was always Alice for 100 E. Finally Mya said OK and we went to the room. In the room she kissed me sensually as she fondled my dick. Mya then said it would be so much better if I went for the hour for 150 E. I looked at her and said " I will only pay 100 E. Take it or leave it! ". She said 100 E would be OK. At this point I was seriously thinking of calling the whole off because I figured she might not want to give me her best service for 100 E. Much to her credit I was wrong. We began more slow sensual kissing and then I explored her body with my hands and lips. Mya then moved down to do a BBBJ as I rubbed her pussy. Enjoyed that for a while then I pulled her over for some 69. Soon Mya put her hands to the side and only used her mouth as her head bobbed up & down on my Dick. At the same time she began slowly moving her pussy up & down my tongue. I then reached up grabbing handfuls of her firm ass and buried my face in her warm & now juicy pussy.
Next I had Mya put on the condom and she rode me on top while I squeezed her firm Tits and pinched her nipples. I then told her I wanted to do some edge of the bed doggy. She tried getting into position on the bed but there was a large wooden trim on the end of the bed and she couldn't get back far enough for me to enter her. Mya then got up and stood at the edge of the bed in front of me. She then lifted one one leg up putting one foot up on the wooden trim and at the same time reaching back to guide me into her. I held onto her hips and went at her slow and deep. It was then I noticed the mirror on the wall next to us. It allowed me a great view of my dick going in & out of her pussy while Mya was also rubbing her clit. I almost lost it there but I wanted to be on top of her when I finished so I had her move on the bed and climbed on top. I took slow and deep plunges to savor her warm tight pussy as long as I could but it was soon over. As I filled the condom Mya began to squeeze her pussy as if to Milk me dry, which she did. What a great finish. This was one of my top 3 sessions for this trip.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2177268]But that just means the latter group (core customers, the casual mongers and more "normal men") are priced out of the market. What is abnormal about it? In their place, the former group you listed (Fly-in sex tourists, hardcore local mongers, and travelling businessmen) would become the new core.
[/QUOTE]Agree with Takedown and Pistons.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2177268]
Market is always evolving. No one is entitled to anything. If Ukraine is admitted or Polish and Slovakian economies collapse, many new clubs get built, or this or that happens and the clubs are flooded with a million new girls, and everything including BBBJ, dfk, bls, rim job and other stuff gets thrown in for 50 E, none of us would cry about the plight of poor Romanian girls in the clubs at the moment. Those girls in fact would adjust to the new reality and lower their pricing and up their services (or else, will quit the profession).
[/QUOTE]I'd offer another way the market might correct itself at these touristic Hessen clubs, although I could be naive and overly optimistic here. Less men attend, meaning clubs collect less entry fees. At that point maybe club operators will take action by (1) screening WGs better and (2) offer pricing discounts and promotions to win back mongers.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2177268]
Pricing has already shifted up. Reports here say that everyday. Officially price might still be 50E but it buys you less and less. If you previously paid 50E for x, and now you pay 50E for 0. 8x, price has already appreciated whether we acknowledge it or not.[/QUOTE]Maybe 0. 8 x is not everybody's reality yet. The local hardcore mongers haven't fully boycotted the tourist Hessen clubs yet. They just complain and are more selective which WGs they session with, but the problem is that they still pay entry and attend regularly. Unlike foreign mongers, they have the language skills and time explore smaller clubs, RLD, and private apartments. If conditions continue to deteriorate to the point where every WG offers 0. 8 x to these hardcore mongers, they might switch to alternatives. And the casual mongers who attend once every six months, they have probably only attended once or twice since the laws were enacted. This group would not be the type to read sex forums, so the new pricing standard or CBJ law perhaps has not circulated amongst all of them yet.
As Takedown suggested the WGs at ACA tried to shift prices up. Attendance dwindled and the market corrected itself. With the tourist Hessen clubs, I'd be less confident. When Oase lost market share to Sharks, I don't think the Oase WGs lowered their pricing or upped their services. They got accustomed to a certain rate, and were too proud to take less. ACA WGs were actually trying to get a pay increase.
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However, if you read the reports here, service has been getting progressively worse for years. Not a new thing. And if you equate worse service = less of a product = implied price increase, essentially people have been getting less for the same price for a while now.
If we argue that demand from casual mongers, or locals or whichever group declines due to higher prices thus bringing supply / demand back into balance and hence the service up to the par, well that did not seem to happen. Either the demand did not fall enough, or new demand (Asians or some others) made up for the lost demand, or something else happened (supply became inelastic, and girls not willing to sell that service at that price even if there were fewer men buying at their asking price) -- whatever it may be; but the end result is that members have been consistently bitching here on ISG that service has been getting worse for 5 or 6 years now since I have been reading.
Anyway, in my view, price does not determine supply / demand, it is the other way around which is supply / demand decides the price. And for years, the true price has been creeping up (as seen through inferior service).
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So you are claiming tourists have made too much of a market impact, and in order for prices to normalise, the tourists needs to hold onto their wallets more, or stay away?
Perhaps the bitching on the forum is a good indicator of posters realising this long ago by trying to keep the tourists away as long as possible too.
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[QUOTE=Tp273;2177767]......Next I had Mya put on the condom and she rode me on top while I squeezed her firm Tits and pinched her nipples. I then told her I wanted to do some edge of the bed doggy. She tried getting into position on the bed but there was a large wooden trim on the end of the bed and she couldn't get back far enough for me to enter her. Mya then got up and stood at the edge of the bed in front of me. She then lifted one one leg up putting one foot up on the wooden trim and at the same time reaching back to guide me into her. I held onto her hips and went at her slow and deep. It was then I noticed the mirror on the wall next to us. It allowed me a great view of my dick going in & out of her pussy while Mya was also rubbing her clit. I almost lost it there but I wanted to be on top of her when I finished so I had her move on the bed and climbed on top. I took slow and deep plunges to savor her warm tight pussy as long as I could but it was soon over. As I filled the condom Mya began to squeeze her pussy as if to Milk me dry, which she did. What a great finish. This was one of my top 3 sessions for this trip.[/QUOTE]Well done. I am accutely aware of the wooden trim of which you speak. It has spoilt many a sexual quest. I do hope I can find an enterprising provider to try that position with when I visit in 2 weeks time.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2178016]So you are claiming tourists have made too much of a market impact, and in order for prices to normalise, the tourists needs to hold onto their wallets more, or stay away?
Perhaps the bitching on the forum is a good indicator of posters realising this long ago by trying to keep the tourists away as long as possible too.[/QUOTE]I assume this was addressed to me? Anyway, I said nothing of the kind. Simply put, prices have moved up and moving up for a while. The stated price is 50 but people on average have been getting less and less in return, so the implied true price has been moving up. For a while.
And that is on average. If one or a few regular punters obtain service as they always have, hardly makes a differnce. When you aggregate it over thousands of mongers over millions of sessions, implied price has been constantly expanding.
No, there was no collective strategy on the part of some mongers to bi$t#ch as a preemptive strategy (and if it was, they obviously failed because neither did the tourists stop coming, nor did the prices stablize). The bit$&ching was about services already obtained "I paid the same and got less in return, or I got the same service and paid up a bit more". And this sort of reports came from across the spectrum, tourists, locals, newbies and experienced.
You can speculate that in future demand will fall due to pricing increases, and that in turn will drive down pricing, or whatever else you want to forecast. My point is that, (a) those things did not happen so far (b) there is no indication that pricing will suddenly inflect down, quite the contrary in fact.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2177877]Anyway, in my view, price does not determine supply / demand, it is the other way around which is supply / demand decides the price. And for years, the true price has been creeping up (as seen through inferior service).[/QUOTE]Progressively worse. Creeping up. At some point, customers will seek alternatives. Whether it be another FKK club or RLD or escorts. If it gets to the point where FKK sessions only offers a marginal value advantage over the alternatives, then why would anyone pay a 40-75 EUR entry to walk into a FKK club? If it deteriorated to the point where 50 EUR got you 15 minutes and only CBJ, that could easily be found in RLD.
It's like if I had to travel from Frankfurt to Berlin. I'd look at the not only Lufthansa but also viable substitutes. Be it another airline like easyJet or another mode of transportation like train, bus, rental car, ride-share. Price would be a factor in that decision. If all the traveling options increase I may cut back or postpone.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2175761]I have no idea why he paid 200/ h instead of 160 for the basic or 280 for full service. But it can't be any difference in tax, the girls are getting 140/30 min for full service which includes a 10 SFR tax component. At least that's what girls told me, that the 10 SFR are some kind of tax. Might be a rent for the room as well. But it's nothing that could get your price down from 280 to 200 per hour.[/QUOTE]I don't see the relation of you tax considerations to this discussion. You might want to check that all your neurons are firing. I don't really think you deserve a response, but I will entertain this for the sake of other readers. I paid 200 because I asked and then she said, yes. It is simple. Some girls can say no, but some say yes. I love the use of third person singular to refer to people, it is so cool. You must be super cultured my friend. Probably why they will tell you yes as well, you should try it. My cultured friend.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2178155] If it gets to the point where FKK sessions only offers a marginal value advantage over the alternatives, then why would anyone pay a 40-75 EUR entry to walk into a FKK club? If it deteriorated to the point where 50 EUR got you 15 minutes and only CBJ, that could easily be found in RLD.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. All the more so for an FKK like Oase which is far from other places as it is.
Not only can you find it easily in the RLD, it's cheaper.
I'm also wondering whether Oase has worked up a trademark, such as amongst the Italians in particular, that there is a steady flow of outsiders that come there in particular and keep the prices elevated and the expected service for average prices low.
Reading some of the posts below, asking whether you can coax the girls for better by offering 100 e, are pointing this out. If Oase is going to become an overpaying tourist area only, no point.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2178155]..... At some point, customers will seek alternatives. Whether it be another FKK club or RLD or escorts. If it gets to the point where FKK sessions only offers a marginal value advantage over the alternatives, then why would anyone pay a 40-75 EUR entry to walk into a FKK club? If it deteriorated to the point where 50 EUR got you 15 minutes and only CBJ, that could easily be found in RLD.
[/QUOTE]Just to be clear, I am only describing what had already happened and still happening, based on my few first hand samples and more broader reading here. It *does not imply in any way* that I am endorsing or supporting these price increases. You did not do it, but sometimes people have a habit of shooting the messenger when they don't like the msg.
Now, why would people stick with an obviously bad choice? Depends on who. You and I might perceive a 50 E /15 M CBJ+CFS is a sucky barter, but others might perceive higher utility in it. Heck, 6 years ago, I myself would have, when I was paying upto $400 for a few bump and grind lap dances in strip clubs.
And practically too, there are other reasons. Not all men want to go up and down stairs, for a girl they can't see and service they don't know, in a seedy neighborhood, perhaps in the dark, or perhaps with passers on giving dirty looks and passing judgement. Having visited the secure, relaxing environment of FKK, I personally will never visit a RLD myself. That's me. And if you want to consume 4 to 5 sessions spread over 12 to 14 hours of relaxing atmosphere, with some food, sleep, banter and music, and not freeze from cold or soak in rain and fry in the sun, and do this 4 days in a row, FKK is a pretty darned good concept.
I am not denying substitution effect is real. It is, in many situations.
But so far when it comes to FKKs, it has not happened, at least to the extent of stabilizing or reducing the price, as far as I can tell. Perhaps I am wrong??
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2178198]Exactly. All the more so for an FKK like Oase which is far from other places as it is.
Not only can you find it easily in the RLD, it's cheaper.
I'm also wondering whether Oase has worked up a trademark, such as amongst the Italians in particular, that there is a steady flow of outsiders that come there in particular and keep the prices elevated and the expected service for average prices low.
Reading some of the posts below, asking whether you can coax the girls for better by offering 100 e, are pointing this out. If Oase is going to become an overpaying tourist area only, no point.[/QUOTE]But it is absolutely not the same thing, if you just want sex, go to the RLD but it will be mostly very mechanical 0 emotions but it is fine for some guys but not for me. Usually in a good FKK there will be much more erotic.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2177259]All the logic in the world is no good without real data. Many have reported the increase occurrence of CBJ and resistance to BBBJ but you seem to be sticking to your theories. Your harping on enforcibity may make logical theoretical sense to you but the reality remains, the laws have caused CBJ to go up and BBBJ while still prevalent is no longer a guarantee. It seems that you ignore reports about lower rate of BBBJ at Palace, Mainhattan, Samya, and Oceans.[/QUOTE]My post about enforceability was only about enforceability. It was not an empirical claim about the current probability of finding BB services.
But if guys were more insistent about BB services, BB services would be more common because girls would need a competitive edge.
And why not be more insistent? *The law is unenforcible*.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2178206] Having visited the secure, relaxing environment of FKK, I personally will never visit a RLD myself. That's me. And if you want to consume 4 to 5 sessions spread over 12 to 14 hours of relaxing atmosphere, with some food, sleep, banter and music, and not freeze from cold or soak in rain and fry in the sun, and do this 4 days in a row, FKK is a pretty darned good concept.
[/QUOTE]You are a tourist on holiday, presumably without any social, family or work commitments in Europe, so 12-14 hours in an FKK club is no problem for you. Most casual mongers can't sneak away for such durations. Consider the cost-benefit analysis for a married German man who mongers once a month. Let say he only has a two hour time window to monger on a Friday afternoon.
Option 1: he goes to his favorite escort apartment situated in a discrete building with no neon-lights and no pictures of naked ladies. He's greeted by a receptionist that introduces him to 5-10 WGs. He chooses one for 150 EUR per hour, opts for 50 EUR worth of extras. After the session, receptionist ensures his experience with WG was satisfactory. Total cost: 200 EUR.
Option 2: he goes to Sharks. Parks several blocks away. Walks past SEAT dealership's parking lot, constantly worried that someone he knows will see him. His worst nightmare is to see his father-in-law pulling out of the Hornbach. Pays his 65 EUR entry. Chooses a WG. Pays her 100 EUR per hour. About 50 percent chance he steps on a landmine. Total cost: 165 EUR.
Honestly, option one was always his best choice. But he mixed Sharks in 1-2 times a year because he felt it was worth the risk to be able to choose from 100 WGs. But since the services have deteriorated, he is starting to re-think that logic.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2178206]
But so far when it comes to FKKs, it has not happened, at least to the extent of stabilizing or reducing the price, as far as I can tell. Perhaps I am wrong??[/QUOTE]Like you, I am not confident that the trend will reverse. With the previous complainers-well they always complained. I am started to hear complaints from mongers who I perceive as the easy-going type. Guys who used to be huge fans of Sharks believe Sharks is no longer the safehaven it once was. That it joins Palace, Mainhattan, and Oase.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2178214]My post about enforceability was only about enforceability. It was not an empirical claim about the current probability of finding BB services.
But if guys were more insistent about BB services, BB services would be more common because girls would need a competitive edge.
And why not be more insistent? *The law is unenforcible*.[/QUOTE]The point is enforceabilty is a non factor in the empirical decrease of availability. The fact that the law in unenforceable has not prevented BBBJ from being noticeably less of a guarantee. You can't control the hoards of tourist or casual monger to insist on free BBBJ means you cannot prevent resistance to said free BBBJ. Point is, the law had a noticeable effect.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2178285]The point is enforceabilty is a non factor in the empirical decrease of availability. The fact that the law in unenforceable has not prevented BBBJ from being noticeably less of a guarantee. You can't control the hoards of tourist or casual monger to insist on free BBBJ means you cannot prevent resistance to said free BBBJ. Point is, the law had a noticeable effect.[/QUOTE]The quantification of this is disputable. Effects can be simultaneously noticeable and trivial. But beyond that, consider the differing impact it's had on clubs like Oase versus the RTC clubs.
It's not that the girls at the higher end Oase-like FKKs are worried about their customers breaking the law. They know the law is unenforcible. And that even if enforced it would be the men, not them, paying the price. The truth of it is that, as usual, they are playing the customers. That's the effect of the new law. They use it as leverage to create de facto price increases by lowering service for short sessions, and creating a harder sell for long sessions.
Meanwhile the RTC clubs happily keep doing business with not only BBBJ available, but total AO as well. It's not that they are fearless law breakers. They *also* know the law is unenforcible. But the raison detre of that market is indeed BB services. They can't use removal of BB services as leverage, and so far the most they've been able to get away with is a 10 euro upcharge or so.
I'm not saying this makes your empirical observation wrong (although there is the quantification problem.) I'm saying the causation is not being described accurately. (1) The impact on RTC's where BB services are of primary concern has been minor, and (2) the greater impact (still small) on higher end clubs isn't about the law per se, but rather the pent up pressure for price increases finally being released.
In any case, BB services are still there to be found. Even at Oase and other places of its ilk. It might take a few minutes longer to find.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2178323]In any case, BB services are still there to be found. Even at Oase and other places of its ilk. It might take a few minutes longer to find.[/QUOTE]That's it. That's the point of this whole conversation. BB services are no longer a sure bet. Even if its effect are indirect, only causing the release of some underlying pressure for price increase, the law at the very least served as a catalyst and thus had a noticeable effect.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2178251]You are a tourist on holiday, presumably without any social, family or work commitments in Europe, so 12-14 hours in an FKK club is no problem for you. Most casual mongers can't sneak away for such durations. Consider the cost-benefit analysis for a married German man who mongers once a month. Let say he only has a two hour time window to monger on a Friday afternoon.
Option 1: he goes to his favorite escort apartment situated in a discrete building with no neon-lights and no pictures of naked ladies. He's greeted by a receptionist that introduces him to 5-10 WGs. He chooses one for 150 EUR per hour, opts for 50 EUR worth of extras. After the session, receptionist ensures his experience with WG was satisfactory. Total cost: 200 EUR.
Option 2: he goes to Sharks. Parks several blocks away. Walks past SEAT dealership's parking lot, constantly worried that someone he knows will see him. His worst nightmare is to see his father-in-law pulling out of the Hornbach. Pays his 65 EUR entry. Chooses a WG. Pays her 100 EUR per hour. About 50 percent chance he steps on a landmine. Total cost: 165 EUR..[/QUOTE]In my opinion, Oase is not high level for girls, meaning really not many pretty girls and nothing exceptional in bed. On my last visit on last Saturday, despite Katrin. Bu, Michele, Maya, Adina, Mady, Adela, Anastasia, Vera who was the prettiest, nothing to compare to Globe sexy girls, so I preferred to save my money = 50 spent on entry, to eat, to take sun, to sleep, to play a bit football, like a real German. At Sharks, also lack of pretty girls among quantity, but better level in bed. Both became clubs for tourists, with many girls running to fuck Asians, but, and not only at Globe, can still find few pretty girls with escort level for services in bed, in Germany, who are happy and want to repeat with 100 for 1 hour, and not only Romanians.
Just depends on your behavior, and behaving only like a tourist, or deserving what you work to find. That's my game in Germany when I have Russian escorts in Paris, and I know top level girls at Globe who behave like if they want I marry them.
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To the extent there is an acceleration of price upwards in the last year (as compared to price increases that were happening anyway before 6/30/17), one could argue the registration issue had as much impact as the BBBJ ban. The former was a tangible issue for the girls; and they may feel they need to get paid a bit more in return for what they had to "invest" in terms of time, effort, money, other. The latter is just another lever they can pull in the price negotiation.
And anecdotally it makes sense. Reports between June 30 to Dec 31 were more benign than in the last few months.
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There is an explanation for this sadly
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2178332]To the extent there is an acceleration of price upwards in the last year (as compared to price increases that were happening anyway before 6/30/17), one could argue the registration issue had as much impact as the BBBJ ban. The former was a tangible issue for the girls; and they may feel they need to get paid a bit more in return for what they had to "invest" in terms of time, effort, money, other. The latter is just another lever they can pull in the price negotiation.
And anecdotally it makes sense. Reports between June 30 to Dec 31 were more benign than in the last few months.[/QUOTE]Reports between June 30,2017 to Dec 31,2017; were arguably more benign due to comments for reporters to edit or amend reports to remove references to no condom activities.
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Topless now at Oase
Through to the latter part of April, there was an acceleration of Oase girls wearing tops to cover their tits. Somehow bottoms were still in absent or somehow exposed as a peek through, but it was the top coverings that were most noticeable.
Then all of a sudden 2 weeks ago, all the tops covering the breasts worm by girls disappeared. It was a revelation. Yes some girls wear tops but these are now see through or expose the tits in some way.
It is much more enjoyable to see naked tits again at Oase.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2178285]The point is enforceabilty is a non factor in the empirical decrease of availability. The fact that the law in unenforceable has not prevented BBBJ from being noticeably less of a guarantee. You can't control the hoards of tourist or casual monger to insist on free BBBJ means you cannot prevent resistance to said free BBBJ. Point is, the law had a noticeable effect.[/QUOTE]The only effect the law had is that some guys pay for it, some guys don't and some guys don't get it at all. The undisputed effect is, girls make more money. Hence, the desired effect was far from achieved.
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I visited Sharks a few times over the pasteeek or so. To be honest, I found the LU rather variable from day to day, and as a general statement not too impressive, though there were a few known girls with good performance history, just not too many. I found myself sticking to a few girls I knew, but I did find a hidden gem sitting on the round thingy near the back kino entrance: a quiet yet very erotic girl named Evelyn (note: NOT Evelina.).
Wow what a find! Very GFE-type hour sessions with her, all the intimate elements one might look for, each delivered in an unrushed, very satisfying manner. With the overall LU not at its best, and with mongering conditions on some nights unfavorable, it was a true delight, almost a saviour to go up the stairs hand in hand with Evelyn. And as is often the case, with each session things just got bett and better with her.
Personal observation: I thought things were better overall at Oase: many girls on my to-do list, and many more attract choices. Unlike others' recent reports, I experienced no issues with upselling or any form of upsetting behaviour at either Oase or Sharks.
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Oooops
Sorry, I meant the post just below to be in the Sharks thread.
I will add some comments about the Oase line-up in the near future (on this thread).
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2178165]I don't see the relation of you tax considerations to this discussion. You might want to check that all your neurons are firing. I don't really think you deserve a response, but I will entertain this for the sake of other readers. I paid 200 because I asked and then she said, yes. It is simple. Some girls can say no, but some say yes. I love the use of third person singular to refer to people, it is so cool. You must be super cultured my friend. Probably why they will tell you yes as well, you should try it. My cultured friend.[/QUOTE]Relax. That was not at all an attack on you. I was just denying the post somebody brought up that the difference between 200 and 280 SFR might have been taxes. Which is wrong. Nothing more.
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Hotel near Oase.
Could someone recommend me a good hotel with a budget around 50-70 per night near the club?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2179356]Could someone recommend me a good hotel with a budget around 50-70 per night near the club?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Pension Wall is within your budget and within a few minutes stroll to the FKK Oase club itself. There are rolling fields all around and there are horses in those fields too.
[URL]https://taunus.info/wo/uebernachten/pensionen-und-gasthoefe/pension-wall/72/[/URL]
Other options recommended by the club itself include Arkadia hotel and Mecure hotel in Friedsrichdorf when not in Messe time a price for a single room is below 70 units.
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The trend in this case is not your friend
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2178251] Like you, I am not confident that the trend will reverse. With the previous complainers-well they always complained. I am started to hear complaints from mongers who I perceive as the easy-going type. Guys who used to be huge fans of Sharks believe Sharks is no longer the safehaven it once was. That it joins Palace, Mainhattan, and Oase.[/QUOTE]In this, sad case, the trend is not your friend.
I agree, I feel more and more, the services are no longer there for 50 bucks, let alone 100 bucks when opting for the one hour. I am finding more and more girls are insisting on 150 bucks for one hour. For certain nationalities it is 200 for the one hour even. Catastrophe.
One part of me cannot blame them. If the value of a 50 bucks in 2002 is worth 60 to 70 bucks now then you can see the resistance in the mental state of girls providing these intimate services for the money earned. So they restrict the services or the time allowed to make up for the lowered value of their 50 buck basic service.
Like Jnpr30 rightly said, I remember you got a lot for your 50 several years ago but this is less the case now.
Both Oase and Sharks are not the safe havens that were touted. I do not know much on the NRW scene so I cannot comment there. Many a Shark will not get off their ass unless there is a hundred involved (sadly, that hundred is not laying inches of schlong meat pipeline).
You must have a deep relationship or connection with the girl before the service and time allowed meets the 50 for full 30 minutes.
A sad indictment indeed.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2179114]Relax. That was not at all an attack on you. I was just denying the post somebody brought up that the difference between 200 and 280 SFR might have been taxes. Which is wrong. Nothing more.[/QUOTE]Globe is 140 CHF = 120 € for each 30 mn, can be 210 CHF = 180 € for 45 mn. Difficult to find same charm and elegance, but can find more hot for sex than Katalina. Could nearly think they are really in love, at least some of the busiest really sell love illusion in room and even after, under shower or in lounge. I remember how her friends look at Sofia behaving with me in lounge after our room, when she needed to ask about me to her friend Anissa who already had room with me. Anissa understood when she saw us.
Can also find top GFE beauties at Westside or History for 100 CHF = 85 € per 30 mn, not more expensive than some Oase or Sharks girls, and not same level, for who looks for quality.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2179641]Pension Wall is within your budget and within a few minutes stroll to the FKK Oase club itself. There are rolling fields all around and there are horses in those fields too.
[/QUOTE]Yep: I love the smell of horseshit in the morning.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2179078]I will add some comments about the Oase line-up in the near future (on this thread).[/QUOTE]I think the line up at present at Oase is very strong. Even Evelyn and Eileen have come back.
There is still the tendency of Oase girls migrating to Sharks but there are new girls coming to Oase on a regular basis to make up for that drop out rate.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2179707]I think the line up at present at Oase is very strong. Even Evelyn and Eileen have come back.
There is still the tendency of Oase girls migrating to Sharks but there are new girls coming to Oase on a regular basis to make up for that drop out rate.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree that last week the LU at Oase was, at least compared to Sharks, pretty good. Let me stress, however, that by mistake I posted about Evelyn (works at Sharks, has NEVER worked at Oase) in the wrong (Oase) thread. It should have gone to Sharks thread, which I rectified yesterday. So if you are talking about an Evelyn at Oase, it is altogether another girl.
About Oase girls migrating to Sharks (or vice-versa): Absolutely true. Funny to see last Saturday at Sharks a regular Oase (daytime) girl testing the waters in Darmstadt. I am talking about Sofia, now bottle-blonde, who now sometimes uses the new name "Arabella from Hungary" (from Hungary? Yeah, right!). I saw her working her normal shift at Oase on this past Friday, but then on Saturday I saw her working afternoon-early evening hours at Sharks, which I assume was just a one-off test run, or who knows? But it is well known by you, me and many others here that a number of girls are somewhat nomadic, shifting from club to club. Large Hessen clubs like Oase and Sharks seem to be magnets for girls from other clubs, especially girls "on leave" from Switzerland (or so they say).
Indeed, one girl at Sharks opened up to me about her own work history that led her to eventually settle at Sharks. She said she was for 2 years working in Frankfurt RLD (Rotes Haus), then she tried Palace for a very brief time, before she went to Sharks where she's now apparently settled. During this discussion, I casually mentioned that it must be nice to get 50 e /30 mins at an FKK club rather than 25-30 e per session in the RLD. She countered: "No, in the Rotes Haus, it is 50 e /30 mins, same price as here (Sharks). I prefer it here because generally the customers are better quality and it's cleaner conditions here. " She then gestured towards the mass of girls circulating through the Sharks club, circling the bar or sitting on the couches and said: "Probably more than half of all the girls that work here now began by working in RLDs / Windows. " That was her opinion, and I am not in a position of knowledge to judge the accuracy of this.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2179720]Indeed, one girl at Sharks opened up to me about her own work history that led her to eventually settle at Sharks. She said she was for 2 years working in Frankfurt RLD (Rotes Haus), then she tried Palace for a very brief time, before she went to Sharks were she's now apparently settled. During this discussion, I casually mentioned that it must be nice to get 50 e /30 mins at an FKK club rather than 25-30 e per session in the RLD. She countered: "No, in the Rotes Haus, it is 50 e /30 mins, same price as here (Sharks). I prefer it here because generally the customers are better quality and it's cleaner conditions here. " She then pointed to the mass of girls circulating through the Sharks club, circling the bar or sitting on the couches and said: "Probably more than half of all the girls that work here now began by working in RLDs / Windows. " That was her opinion, and I am not in a position of knowledge to judge the accuracy of this.[/QUOTE]As to the migration, I saw that Donna girl I did in Oase prior (excellent 50 e service still, delivers a style BJ preferable to most of us as well) walking around Sharks last time the two days I spent with the Darmstadt Dames. She is a fun great girl IMO.
I certainly however can relate to this girl's sentiments you spoke with on the clients. I agree she is right that the clientele is nicer in the FKK Clubs, I certainly second that. One Shark I fuck prior to Sharks worked in a brothel not in Germany where she got fucked 20 plus times a day by dirtballs in an underground brothel until she was ' shipped' to Sharks where she is very happy now and her client base upgraded. So her path to Sharks went thru an ' RLD' type place eventually settling in much better conditions like the girl you chatted with. I share her thoughts on the customers too although I do not suck off or fuck any mongers here, however.
I have met mongers from all my journeys dating back almost 30 years. The guys I meet in Germany (even at DayCare) are night and day compared to the guys as a whole I met elsewhere including ' socials' in the states where guys in one market such as Austin or Houston will meet. Without a doubt IMO the guys in Germany I meet up with both from Germany and abroad from the USA to Asia and all points in between are a much cleaner group, highly educated, come from backgrounds and families with much better values than others and it is not a cheap ballgame to play so it is no shocker that the net worths and disposable incomes of us all collectively is much higher than most (not all) other places (I am sure Dubai is similar probably wealthier) and to me this adds to the experience especially during down times between rounds talking to other guys I can actually relate too. The ' monger experience and knowledge levels' I encounter in Germany blow away that of elsewhere especially home here where the guys are simply fucking idiots perhaps giving new meaning to ' dumb and dumber' paying these girls rates and calling them beautiful. Here I meet johns who have never left TX to monger and drive John Deere tractors (The RLD stairwalkers remind me of these guys) . I sit in FKK Mainhatten I talk to a pilot for Korean Airlines and his CEO buddy from Hyundai. I would much rather enjoy talking to two klassy and klean Koreans, they know how to use a knife and fork to eat too not dirty hands
And one other things I am sure girls who work the RLD than the FKK clubs appreciate is the fact we all vash. Those RLD girls have to suck on unvashed balls and cocks soaked in sweat. The johns in the RLD are the ' Nein Vashings' of johns. Those girls must go thru crates of baby wipes per day.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2179757]I certainly however can relate to this girl's sentiments you spoke with on the clients. I agree she is right that the clientele is nicer in the FKK Clubs, I certainly second that.
And one other things I am sure girls who work the RLD than the FKK clubs appreciate is the fact we all vash. Those RLD girls have to suck on unvashed balls and cocks soaked in sweat. The johns in the RLD are the ' Nein Vashings' of johns. Those girls must go thru crates of baby wipes per day.[/QUOTE]I have actually met a few WGs that prefer RLD over FKK. Or more specifically, there are eros centers and laufhaus throughout Germany. A Laufhaus tends to be a single standalone building, 2-4 floors. So you'd have to imagine a single building in the RLD lifted and dropped in an industrial area near a factory. They are not as clean as an FKK, but generally less seedy than the RLD, since the primary mode of transportation is car.
I used to have a favorite. This WG originally from Dortmund. I had met her at an FKK back in 2011 but she only lasted a few days, so I followed her as she worked at different laufhaus venues. At the laufhaus, she could have her phone out, watch TV, be on internet the entire day, sometimes not even looking up at customers, who stood at her door. Most of her customers were not pro mongers. They popped in under 10 minutes. No men on Viagra on their fourth pop on day six. No hopeless romantics that she had to pretend to like. Many did not require BBBJ, DFK, or emotional connection. Her prices started at 30 EUR. She was cold the first few times but over time, we developed a better rapport. At least in 2011, most FKKs throughout Germany forced WGs to perform BBBJ on every customer that wanted it for 50 EUR. She simply was not comfortable with that. So while the disposable income of her customers was generally lower, so were their expectations. Regarding cleaning. Many of the rooms have a wash basin. I'd be politely asked to wash myself.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2179800]Regarding cleaning. Many of the rooms have a wash basin. I'd be politely asked to wash myself.[/QUOTE]Sounds like central American and MX except the wash us. We do not get to wash ourselves they have us stand over the basin and wash us and it is also their visual test of our anatomy to make sure nothing worries them. I wish the RLD was flat like AMS or Alkmaar, Haarlem, etc all were in my years handing over Guilders or like the Zonas Rojas here in this neck of the woods. I would for sure walk it and try it out if flat but those walk ups are just too much for me.
Not sure what their overhead is but I saw a sign (was in german) and it looked like for 99 euros they got a room for 24 hours, a private shower / toilet with a TV and free Wifi.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2179806]Sounds like central American and MX except the wash us. We do not get to wash ourselves they have us stand over the basin and wash us and it is also their visual test of our anatomy to make sure nothing worries them. I wish the RLD was flat like AMS or Alkmaar, Haarlem, etc all were in my years handing over Guilders or like the Zonas Rojas here in this neck of the woods. I would for sure walk it and try it out if flat but those walk ups are just too much for me.
Not sure what their overhead is but I saw a sign (was in German) and it looked like for 99 euros they got a room for 24 hours, a private shower / toilet with a TV and free Wifi.[/QUOTE]Walkups provide better security since there is only one way out. They are also less visible from the streets and discourage the lookie looos who walk around gawking without any intent to buy. A better solution is found in Haarlem where you pay a small fee to gain access to an area with windows. For locals, they know where the girls they want are and do not go about hunting.
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Cheap hotel.
[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2179356]Could someone recommend me a good hotel with a budget around 50-70 per night near the club?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The Mercure in Friedrichsdorf is a simple, decent hotel and using a booking site it can usually be had for around 70 Euro. 8-10 Euro taxi to the club. Walking distance from train station (if you have light bags and are in decent shape). Freidrichsdorf is a nice, safe village. Walking distance to restaurants and a nice grocery right beside hotel. Or stay in Frankfurt Bahnhofsviertel or Messe area and buy a day pass for train (5. 35 Euro) and take 4-5 km, 10 Euro taxi ride (standard) from Freidrichsdorf train station. Or about 20 Euro from Bad Homburg station. Plenty of deals (on booking sites) to be found on hotels in Frankfurt. And maybe in Bad Homburg? Never stayed there. Get to Oase before 16:00 and save 20 Euro on entrance.
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First time at FKK.
A report to my first time in a FKK at Oase.
I was there the whole day (11 am-3 am) and there were a lots of girls, enough you cannot count. I am relatively young at 26 and decently built.
As a first timer I got noticed pretty dam quick asking the woman at the entry to change my 5 x 100 bill to 10 x50 which she did nicely. I got ganged up at the entry by two girl wanting a threesome, which I declined and went only with one: a small Ukrainian girl with pale white skin which is my type, she was pushy but I liked her so I went even though I wanted to walk around first. The only thing she didn't do was kissing, I ended up cumming in her mouth for the normal price (100/30 min) and actually exploded hard enough that cum came out of her nose, she choked a little LOL.
I got approached a lot and has to decline a lot of girls, some were pushy which made me uncomfortable at first but I ended up getting to use to it. The thing I didn't like was the "Why?" question when I said "No thanks" to going to a room, after getting annoyed at finding excuse to not say "cause there is a better girl right here" I ended just saying "because" and it was enough.
The ratio women / men goes higher during the evening but I actually preferred the early afternoon with the sun by the pool, it's more quiet and girls were more "chill". I did a pretty memorable session on top of the white stairs by the pool with an hot Italian, she was goddam good with lots of energy. Her name is Antonia I think, but I got the name of so many girls it's hard to remember. There was some miscommunication and I ended up paying 50 more than I though, was my bad cause I didn't really check before the deed, was worth it anyway. Kind of girl that suck you while looking at you in the eyes and asked for you cum when you run into her mouth, pretty nice.
After I got my first Anal experience with a sweet petite Romanian girl, got into a dark room which I think is reserved for ugly customers or anal sessions. After a long decent blowjob while I fingered her ass lightly we got the main deed and after about 10 minutes she told me she couldn't hold for too long so I stopped. I did the mistake of touching the condom after (goddam dark room) but she gave a lot of soaped tissues so I cleaned my hand with decent success. Got more BBBJ and came by hand-job while she sucked my tit which unlocked a new fetish for me. I am now a tit sensitive guy, which I was not before, it's weird.
All in all I had three sessions 30 minutes with extras, all girls did BBBJ and when I asked before going to the room it seems like it was "obvious", kissing is more rare which make sens to me knowing one of the worst cold I got was from a DFK (not a WG). If someone has a cold / illness without snoring of coughing you won't catch it unless you trade saliva. I'm not sure about CIM though.
I missed time the last session I wanted to make trying to rest as long as possible and had to go to catch my flight, I wanted a 4th sessions super bad and left horny as fuck which is kinda lame. I'll be careful next time to not leave with blue balls.
It was a really good experience which I will repeat, brothel are pretty lame compare to a FKK. I really like chilling with naked girls around, I spend a lot of day reading on my kindle while peeping at girls, it's a goddam dream coming true.
One important note: I am pretty sure I got food poisoning from the food at Oase, I got a little unsettled during the afternoon but only for about 1 hour, wasn't to the point of diarrhea so it was fine. More important is that after around 16 hours I actually got diarrhea and the day after a goddam strong headache with vertigo. I don't see what else it could be than food poisoning, which I think came from a slice of bacon at Oase as it's the only "unsafe" thing I ate there.
Next time I go to Oase I'll stick to the rice and the vegetables!
Spent: 100€ + 150€ + 150€ = 450€ and left with 150€ not spend due to bad time management.
I will try to reduce the extras next time, Anal isn't worth it for me, unless maybe it's prepared in advanced. I will return soon (ish).
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[QUOTE=Percocksu;2179903]A report to my first time in a FKK at Oase.
I was there the whole day (11 am-3 am) and there were a lots of girls, enough you cannot count...
...went only with one: a small Ukrainian girl with pale white skin which is my type, she was pushy but I liked her so I went even though I wanted to walk around first. The only thing she didn't do was kissing, I ended up cumming in her mouth for the normal price (100/30 min) and actually exploded hard enough that cum came out of her nose, she choked a little LOL.
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One important note: I am pretty sure I got food poisoning from the food at Oase...[/QUOTE]Who is small Ukraine girl? She sound quite nice. I cannot say I have met any Ukraine girl at Oase, yet it strong preference of personally. Which day you go and is she only working during daytime?
As for food poison, sorry for hear such discomforts. I enjoyed the paradise that is Oase several time and never food poison. Only things I am allow for touch my mouth at any FKK is the hot foods and whole fresh fruits, better if the peel still on.
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2179997]Who is small Ukraine girl? She sound quite nice. I cannot say I have met any Ukraine girl at Oase, yet it strong preference of personally. Which day you go and is she only working during daytime?
As for food poison, sorry for hear such discomforts. I enjoyed the paradise that is Oase several time and never food poison. Only things I am allow for touch my mouth at any FKK is the hot foods and whole fresh fruits, better if the peel still on.[/QUOTE]It was a Friday and she was at Oase from 11 AM to the evening, last time I saw her it was maybe around 8 pm? I don't remember her name, my first hour in a FKK I was pretty tense I guess. She is a petite, blond with green eyes in her early twenties. Small (ish) beautiful tits that she pronounced with a small tits corset.
I am 100% sure I got unsettled stomach from the food, not a big deal as it was not too inconvenient. I am not sure if the big headache I got the day after is due to that but as it never happened to me I suspect an external source.
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Days 3 and 4 - Thu / Fri 21 and 22 April FKK Oase
Somewhat belated report covering the last two days of my April trip.
All things being equal Oase has always been my favourite and although I enjoyed good nights at both Palace and Sharks they were not outstanding and I felt I had little unleft business / must have girls left untouched so I decided in advance to spend 2 days at Oase. Decision also helped by gorgeous weather as I enjoy lounging outside and a desire not to move hotels again (stayed at Mercure which was reasonably priced as the Messe was obviously dying down and took the train to Friedrichsdorf).
The first stay I got there at around 5 pm so had missed out on the reduced entry of E50 but still enjoyed a few hours of sunshine before getting down to action. There were maybe 70-80 girls both days and I thought the line up was the best of the three clubs. Happy days!
8. Madi. For me the standout girl was Madi. Tall, tanned, fantastic toned figure but with good curves, straight brown hair and facially the most beautiful girl in the club by some distance. She had model features. Her boobs seem to be man made but are well done and are only spoiled by a circular tattoo between or below her cleavage. Perfectly pleasant girl and said she would do a GFE including kisssing and DATY for a one hour E100 session. I was in the mood for a longer session and wanted to feast on her and as I wasn't paying a premium for 1 hour was happy to go for it.
The session was good though not outstanding and I did indeed enjoy feasting on her and we took lots of turns giving each other oral. Did her in a couple of positions but finished with a combination of BJ and HJ. Overall a very enjoyable experience with an amazingly beautiful woman. E100.
9. Daniella and Adela. The two girls I really was hoping to repeat with from my previous Oct and Dec 17 visits were busty Hungarian Elizabeth and tall, slim brunette Daniella. Of the 6 girls who fell into this category across the three clubs, Daniella was the only one around. She is very pretty with doe like eyes and is a firm favourite and has a very pleasant understated personality with never a hint of drama or attitude. She does have small tits but still falls into the lovely category. I have seen her 6 times now. She does perform better on her own than in a threesome but decided to have a threesome. Our partner was tall, slim, gorgeous blonde (also with two tits) in her mid to late 20's who I have noticed before as she has a striking resemblance to Cameron Diaz.
By now my physical resources were depleting and the one hour session consisted of the two girls pleasuring and pampering me taking turns to suck me off while the other presented her tits for me to suck on or nuzzled on my chest. It was a real treat and I also did them both doggy style for a bit but came through a combination of them sucking and tossing me off. I particularly enjoyed Adela's attentions with her film star looks. What a place Oase is. Over the years I've had a Scarlett Johannason, Demi Moore and now a Cameron Diaz lookalike with if anything the Oase versions being prettier! E200.
I had a sleep in the relax room and when I was awake again it was past 3 am. The mind was willing but the body was weak. I could just about have managed another shot with a skilled and powerful HJ / BJ combo but would have been going through the motions so decided to call it a night and return hopefully rejuvenated the next day.
10. Marina. The next day I got there at 2 pm to enjoy the reduced entry of E50 and bask in the beautiful sunshine. Of course, the main attraction are the girls and the first girl I took was Marina who is objectively fairly unremarkable with brown hair, medium sized figure, fairly big but slightly saggy boobs but fairly pretty face with nice eyes. I did see something in her that I can't quite put my finger on and decided to take her to a room.
She did try her best and gave a good blowjob but I just couldn't cum so put it down as a fluffer session. E50.
11. Anatasia and Natasha. Late in the afternoon, I was seduced by two girls. Anatasia is a slim to scrawny wavy brown haired girl with small tits and deep tan and Natasha is bulkier, brunette, very pale skin and lovely eyes. I wouldn't normally pick either of them but I liked the contrast and they caught me at the right time as I was beginning to feel frisky.
We went to one of the outdoor beds at the end of the grounds which added an extra thrill. I did enjoy the outdoor setting and the session consisted of them taking turns to suck me off whilst the other nuzzled on my chest. Natasha was definitely the better performer of the two and as we were approaching the 30 minute mark, she whipped out a bottle of oil and wanked me off. I think Anatasia was a little annoyed with her as she had her eye on an hour session. I would have been happy either way. E100.
12. Madi. Later in the evening, I decided I wanted another stunner. Was thinking of picking up Adela but she was very busy so whisked Madi off for a repeat. Was pretty much the same as the day before so I was content. E100.
13. Mashuka and Lashuka. One girl I had my eye on was a big, tall, chunky blonde with a deep tan who I remembered from previous visits as I did consider her and she used to hang out with my love, Jennifer. However I never took her as she never radiated warmth and once when I asked her name she said "Stropinella". These days she has fake, pointy tits. It was getting late and I had one shot left in the locker and decided to take the plunge. At the last minute, I decided to double up with her friend who called herself Lashuka (obviously both joke names). She is a dusky brunette, big hips, decent sized natural tits and have seen her loads of time.
I just needed both of them to take turns to suck me off but Lashuka was trying hard to upsell with offers of anal and lezzie shows. By contrast Mashuka was getting down to business and was very pleasant showing how looks and attitude can be misleading. She was definitely the better performer whilst Lashuka just went through the motions but nevertheless a pleasant 30 minutes. E100.
Overall, it was a fantastic 2 days at Oase and there were 4 girls who I would definitely repeat with again (Daniella, Adela, Madi and Mashuka). Oase was definitely the best club of the three I visited but all were good and were no bad sessions. I'm certainly looking forward to my next trip which I've pencilled in for July.
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[QUOTE=Percocksu;2179903]A report to my first time in a FKK at Oase.
I was there the whole day (11 am-3 am) and there were a lots of girls, enough you cannot count. I am relatively young at 26 and decently built.
As a first timer I got noticed pretty dam quick asking the woman at the entry to change my 5 x 100 bill to 10 x50 which she did nicely. I got ganged up at the entry by two girl wanting a threesome, which I declined and went only with one: a small Ukrainian girl with pale white skin which is my type, she was pushy but I liked her so I went even though I wanted to walk around first. The only thing she didn't do was kissing, I ended up cumming in her mouth for the normal price (100/30 min) and actually exploded hard enough that cum came out of her nose, she choked a little LOL.
I got approached a lot and has to decline a lot of girls, some were pushy which made me uncomfortable at first but I ended up getting to use to it. The thing I didn't like was the "Why?" question when I said "No thanks" to going to a room, after getting annoyed at finding excuse to not say "cause there is a better girl right here" I ended just saying "because" and it was enough.
The ratio women / men goes higher during the evening but I actually preferred the early afternoon with the sun by the pool, it's more quiet and girls were more "chill". I did a pretty memorable session on top of the white stairs by the pool with an hot Italian, she was goddam good with lots of energy. Her name is Antonia I think, but I got the name of so many girls it's hard to remember. There was some miscommunication and I ended up paying 50 more than I though, was my bad cause I didn't really check before the deed, was worth it anyway. Kind of girl that suck you while looking at you in the eyes and asked for you cum when you run into her mouth, pretty nice..[/QUOTE]The girls will never prepare in advance for anal, so like you experienced it be ready to smell and feel the shit, I don t like this at all that it is why I stop to pay for it, too many bad experiences like you.
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FKKs Rule.
[QUOTE=BeWilder;2180297]Somewhat belated report covering the last two days of my April trip.
All things being equal Oase has always been my favourite and although I enjoyed good nights at both Palace and Sharks they were not outstanding and I felt I had little unleft business / must have girls left untouched so I decided in advance to spend 2 days at Oase. Decision also helped by gorgeous weather as I enjoy lounging outside and a desire not to move hotels again (stayed at Mercure which was reasonably priced as the Messe was obviously dying down and took the train to Friedrichsdorf).
The first stay I got there at around 5 pm so had missed out on the reduced entry of E50 but still enjoyed a few hours of sunshine before getting down to action. There were maybe 70-80 girls both days and I thought the line up was the best of the three clubs. Happy days!
8. Madi. For me the standout girl was Madi..[/QUOTE]We can endlessly debate the merits of Sharks vs Oase, but as this post should remind us all, they (and perhaps another FKK or two) are head and shoulders above anything else on the planet. I, for one, would like to thank God (the German government, Romania, and anyone else responsible for the FKK from the bottom of my heart!
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2180347]We can endlessly debate the merits of Sharks vs Oase, but as this post should remind us all, they (and perhaps another FKK or two) are head and shoulders above anything else on the planet. I, for one, would like to thank God (the German government, Romania, and anyone else responsible for the FKK from the bottom of my heart![/QUOTE]Escort with German woman or Romanian for several days is a far better experience than FKK, believe me and try it with a girl you already know and the chemistry is fine between you.
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Madi's boobs look artificial from. Distance as well. Session is ok if you go for more than 50€. She is Probably spoiled by the prices in Switzerland where she worked before.
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Thursday. Lingerie day.
Days anyone know that is a good day to go? I love lingerie and hoping it would be a Friday or Saturday type event crowd.
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Tuesday 2:30 am - 6 am
I had jumped behind the wheel after drawing blank at World. My newly-bought Garmin already knew the location of FKK Oase or so I believed until it lead me to a spot in downtown Bad Homburg. More time wasted with the Sildenafil peaking but it turned out all right in the end. Oase didn't have many more girls on duty than did World but the big difference was it had akready at at least 3 who could make my day. I had one session with (Serbian?) Heidi and another with Claudia. Brunette, short hair, almond-eyes and a mischievous smile, Claudia is one of my all-time favourites. When we first met a couple of years ago she only had 2 or 3 tattoos, now returning from holiday she had added yet another to her ample collection.
I like tattoos in girls. A tattoo on a girl is a statement of nastiness. If you're at a loss for small talk with a girl just discuss her tattoos she'll take to the topic like a duck to water. Some tattoos are purely pictorial, others are quotes in some language usually other than Rumanian. Punchline: "you can't read a girl's mind but sometimes you can read her skin".
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[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2180930]Days anyone know that is a good day to go? I love lingerie and hoping it would be a Friday or Saturday type event crowd.[/QUOTE]Thursdays are lingerie days although Oase girls wear a little clothes everyday. I think Bitumen mentioned that this seems to be changing.
I really enjoyed my Tuesday and Wednesday visits at Oase. Enough top girls show up on Tuesday evenings yet hardly any mongers so it is a buyer's market. Wednesdays seem to have become just as good if not better than Fri / Sat because the line up is stacked for 50 euro night. There are a bit more Turkish clients to fill the room but that's hardly ever a problem because those guys don't take long rooms and it keeps the girls in an okay mood since the club isn't dead empty. Let those guys "entertain" the girls and maybe even get them a little drunk, then swoop in for a room from time to time.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2180839]Madi's boobs look artificial from. Distance as well. Session is ok if you go for more than 50. She is Probably spoiled by the prices in Switzerland where she worked before.[/QUOTE]Madi is silicon. She wants 100 for 30 mn or 150 for 1 hour, for DFK, so no more for me, but she was great at History Basel Liestal. She should go to Globe she tried. I saw her many times really not busy at Oase, when she was a star at History.
As she said: this guy go everywhere.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2181021] ... My newly-bought Garmin already knew the location of FKK Oase or so I believed until it lead me to a spot in downtown Bad Homburg..[/QUOTE]I've had this happen to me as well. Not sure what causes this problem, but inputting the actual GPS coordinates of 50.240947, 8.677489 seems to work better.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2181173]
I really enjoyed my Tuesday and Wednesday visits at Oase. Enough top girls show up on Tuesday evenings yet hardly any mongers so it is a buyer's market. Wednesdays seem to have become just as good if not better than Fri / Sat because the line up is stacked for 50 euro night. There are a bit more Turkish clients to fill the room but that's hardly ever a problem because those guys don't take long rooms and it keeps the girls in an okay mood since the club isn't dead empty. Let those guys "entertain" the girls and maybe even get them a little drunk, then swoop in for a room from time to time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this tip. Maybe this is the cure for my last Saturday visit.
I think I mentioned in a previous post what I had in mind.
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Quiet Thursday evening
So having enjoyed far too much wine, beer and sex in Sharks last night (report to follow there) I was in two minds about whether to head to Oase not least as business meant I did not get free until 8 pm. Unusually for me decided to drive. To ensure I didn't repeat the alcohol excesses two nights running. Which my body most definitely did not want. Had organised a 5 km run with a colleague at 10 am this morning (breakfast was supposed to be 8 am which I missed not having gotten back to the hotel until 4 am from Sharks). The run nearly killed me, as did the 40 minute gym workout after it. Then a long meeting. By the end of this I was all but ready for bed but decided to head out to Oase. Determined to have one or two rooms max and be in bed by 1 am latest.
I don't recall ever seeing the club so quiet for both men and women. I'd say there were maybe 30-40 girls tops. Maybe 25 punters though this was starting to increase by midnight (when true to my promise to myself I left).
I'd never driven to Oase before. I like to mix sex with a few drinks (as I did last night in Sharks) and won't drink and drive. I'd read on this forum that the Sat Nav takes you to some place in Bad Homburg but I hadn't written the co-ordinates that Neurosynth kindly provided, and to be honest I doubt I'd know how to input them into my rental car GPS. So I just used the postal code from the Oase Website: big mistake. I didn't get taken to Bad Homburg. So I thought I was ok. Not. I got taken to some dead end street in Friedrichtsdorf. The trick is to put the actual street name in from the Oase website. And that worked. Parked up, into club. Bit disappointed to have to pay €70 when I knew I'd be out of there in 3 hours but it is what it is and of course its my choice to leave early.
I'd eaten right after my meeting (delicious) so didn't need food, other than that of the pussy variety. The dining area was totally empty. Not a single punter or girl in there. I have never seen that in 7 years of going to this club. The bar area was lively. Not so much because there were a lot of people. There weren't, but because the girls had decided that a large group of them had to take turns doing pole dancing on the centre pole. Some were good, most were truly awful and at one point I actually contemplated making a total ass of myself and getting up there. I'm convinced if I'd had have been drinking I would have done.
My favourite Katheryn the Great (Bulg) was on holiday. My second pick Rosa (not present on my last visit 4 weeks ago was also missing). Third choice Alicia (blonde Ro. A bit heavy) also missing. Time to look for new options then. Denisa (says Spanish and speaks it fluently so believable but I suspect as Ro as others) was there, with her tiny friend so skinny but with a tiny beer belly (not for me). Approached by Raissa. I'd never met her. She shocked me by saying she was 32 - didn't look it. I don't know why exactly but I declined. I've read she gives good service so not sure why. She was quite negative about her age and the negativity made me think the room wouldn't be good. I think she looks great for 32. I regretted not taking her.
Virtually every girl approached me (no wonder as there were fairly few guys). Ada (brunette very slim Ro was pretty but I passed. Didn't like her very small boobs). The Carmen Diaz look alike and her very pretty blonde friend (wearing some black and white baby doll outfit which covered everything) were tempting but both seemed more interested in the pole dancing. Soraya was there in her usual black stockings, hair up, but I recalled our 50/30 session when she'd complained "50 for THAT service?" the service having been absolutely standard and nothing extra, so I passed. Little Joanna with the multiple tattoos and very skinny was pretty but again I fancied a girl with boobs tonight.
Cut to the chase. One of those nights when I was far too picky and I didn't do a single room. Well, at least not with one of the girls. I headed to the professional thai massage and had an hour in there given my tired state. Nice if not the best massage I've had (Mai in Sharks yesterday was superb). But just when you thought this report was going to say I didn't score. I did! The highlight of my 3 hours in Oase was going into the football outdoor goal and lining up 8 of those light balls and managing to slot 5 of 8 in the whole in the girls butt at first attempt. That's scoring. Shame the balls fly into the back of the net which is literally covered in stinging nettles. So God knows how they fish the balls out.
So very disappointing and in stark contrast to my last 2 excellent visits. There were do-able girls but Sharks last night spoilt me. Sure it was busy Wednesday but the LU was truly fabulous. At least 20 girls I would have had a room with. My trip isn't over yet. I'll head back to Oase at the weekend in the hope of improvement.
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Not only but also
Last Friday (11th) I was in Frankfurt and decide to repeat my visit to Oase. My first visit was in July last year.
I was near to Frankfurt Hauptbanhof, so it was eay to get the S5 train to Freidrichsdorf Banhof, and a taxi for 10 e. The weather was fine and warm, it was about 15.00 hrs in the afternoon, when I arrived, and I anticipated some action outdoors. There was food being served when I arrived, it was good, and I had some later as well.
There were enough girls and enough of interest to me. I played a patient game and looked for a girl that suited me. None of the girls that I spoke to would play outside, they said it was to cold. Not all of the girls were like that. A few of them went with their clients to to the far right hand corner of the garden. Later a bold customer went with his girl to the near right hand of the garden and put on a fine display. It was good to see.
My patience paid of and I met two nice girls and had two good sessions, in the room. The second was particularly good, a Spanish girl, sweet, curvaceous, good in the room. I find the ambience of Oase to much better than Sharks. If I was around Frankfurt and wanted a place to pick up girls I would prefer Oase. After all it is not only about sex.
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Well..... true to a point but...........
[QUOTE=WarmStone25;2181982] I find the ambience of Oase to much better than Sharks. If I was around Frankfurt and wanted a place to pick up girls I would prefer Oase. After all it is not only about sex.[/QUOTE]I actually agree. I like Artemis because it has a gym. I wish more clubs did. I wish some of the clubs had a piano! I like the table football machine in Oase. Of course I love the outdoors at Oase (though will they EVER cut that grass properly?) and the wooden chalets and swimming pool at World. I really like the incredibly beautiful bar waitress at FKK Sunshine in Munich (former WG and I spent 2 hours trying to persuade her to do a 2 hour room for 500 e which she declined. She is SO stunning). I love the food at Sakura, hate the cancer-inducing smoking lounge at LR and love the massage facilities at Sharks, Oase, Oceans and Paradise. I like that there are two kinos in Artemis, don't like the ridiculously large stage at Samya and hate the fish-bowl smoking room at Mainhattan and the lack of any outdoors at all at Palace. I love the running river water and pretty bridge at Harmony and don't like the order food in facility at Atmos. That's before we even get into the location / city / what it offers. For me my favourite cities in Germany ranked are 1. Munich. 2. Berlin. 3. Hamburg. 4. Weisbaden. 5. Dresden. 7. Dusseldorf. 6. Frankfurt. But I attend the latter most.
So: there are indeed lots of pluses and minuses about the clubs before we consider the girls BUT. In the end. None of go to these clubs for the food, swimming, outdoor football, the gym, kinos, to smoke, or to get a massage. They are factors which make attendance at the clubs last longer than a quick room and go. It's why we pay the entry fees. Without these facilities in Dubai / Thailand / Australia / Bali / Jakarta / UK / Spain there are much lower or no entrance fees. But when it comes down to it. It's really all about the girls and the sex. Clubs have fluctuating fortunes on LU. There have been periods where Oase has been no. 1 spot, then nearly a whole year when Sharks for me was best, and despite everyone thinking I'm crazy the one and only club I've never had a bad time in is Artemis.
But the quality of the LU determines the ranking of the clubs for most of us. A club with the greatest facilites or ambience in the world is not going to attract a lot of guys if the LU is consistently weak. Equally, a flea-pit of a venue with little or nothing else than a fantastic LU will no doubt attract a lot of guys. My favourite place in the UK is a dump. But the girls are terrific there and there are only ever 4 to select from. I go back there whenever I can get there. So it might not all be about the sex. But its certainly all about the LU over any other factor.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2181300]Madi is silicon. She wants 100 for 30 mn or 150 for 1 hour, for DFK, so no more for me,.[/QUOTE]Maybe she does with certain clientele. Or at certain times. But she was all sweet in a 100 E /60 session with me on a busy Saturday in May. I got no complaints. To me that is a smart move as I will happily repeat.
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Payforit,
I agree mostly with you, but it changes a bit if you stay for several days in a row. I have picked a club based on facilities once or twice, and many Germans in Frankfurt picks club based on where they want to hang out and have a chat with friends. I have also picked club based on where other mongers have gone. At Oceans I have met local men who went there for happy hour just to eat the free meal and watch some TV. The scouting for girls came second hand. One guy said it made him feel a bit naughty just by going there. His wife would kill him if she found out. LOL!
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Hey PFI,
Thanks for the report. Always a pleasure reading your reports with all the details and honesty. I am a bit surprised, however, that a beer drinker as yourself forgot to mention that the price of a beer at Oase has been cut in half to 5 E! ;)
A little detail:
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2181768]Bit disappointed to have to pay 70 when I knew I'd be out of there in 3 hours but it is what it is and of course its my choice to leave early.
The dining area was totally empty. Not a single punter or girl in there. I have never seen that in 7 years of going to this club. The bar area was lively.[/QUOTE]So, I guess you arrived shortly after 4 pm? IME it is actually quite normal to see the inside dining area empty in summer when the weather is good and they serve dinner buffet at the outside dining area. On those days they simply close down the inside restaurant and bar as they do not have staff to keep all three bars open. Beverages can then be had at the outside bar, or at the main area at the entrance (that is always open). AFAIK the inside dining area opens at 10 pm for pizzas and dinner buffet (when they close the outside restaurant).
But you are right: While the main restaurant / bar in the dining area is closed, the place is pretty much empty. Neither the gents nor the girls have any reason to stay there. A small drawback, I agree, as the lighting is so much better near the dining area. Best place with lighting at those times is outside between the sauna and the gent's sleeping room (or by the pool). If noone there then retreat to main meeting area / money lockers if looking for targets prior to 10 pm. After 10 pm the dining area will again come back to life.
Have fun!
- S16.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2182096]Hey PFI,
Thanks for the report. Always a pleasure reading your reports with all the details and honesty. I am a bit surprised, however, that a beer drinker as yourself forgot to mention that the price of a beer at Oase has been cut in half to 5 E! ;)
[/QUOTE]I know. I couldn't quite believe it when I thought "I'll have one small beer", asked for a 10 e token, got one, only for the barman to tell me it's now 5 E. Great. The FIRST time I ever drive to a FKK in my whole life the beer gets discounted. Maybe that should have told me it was not going to be my night! I had one and gave the other to a girl standing next to me who immediately thought this was me buying her a drink and asks me to come to sit and chat. But I didn't fancy her at all. I was just being nice as she was there! One of my more forgettable FKK trips!
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2182026]But the quality of the LU determines the ranking of the clubs for most of us. A club with the greatest facilites or ambience in the world is not going to attract a lot of guys if the LU is consistently weak. Equally, a flea-pit of a venue with little or nothing else than a fantastic LU will no doubt attract a lot of guys. My favourite place in the UK is a dump. But the girls are terrific there and there are only ever 4 to select from. I go back there whenever I can get there. So it might not all be about the sex. But its certainly all about the LU over any other factor.[/QUOTE]If facilities, food and ambience were given prioity over lady line-up, then Parksauna Residenz, Das 5 Element and Sakura would be rammed with customers every night of the week!
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I visited Oase in Thursday 17/5/18. It was my first FKK experience and I was blown away by the concept of a place like this. Amazing. I had a wonder time with 4 different women who's names escape me.
However. I went to Sharks the following day and was even more blown away. I know this is an Oase thread but Sharks blew Oase away on every level. The atmosphere, the food (far better), cleanliness, looks, and most of all women. I had a great time at Oase too, but knowing what I know now, I wish I would've gone to Sharks both days.
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I agree that Celina rocks
Me too. I saw her last night and had a great time. Half Thai and half European. She says half Italian, but I'm sure she's half Romanian. Amazing DFK, sweet and fun. She is gorgeous, sexy, and gives a killer, wet, perfect BBBJ. I looooove f**king her mouth. I was so happy with her I chose to complete the session with anal. Her way of thanking me was to waive 30 min of. 90 min super session. Two thumbs up for this one!
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;1657090]Hello Jimmy Boy 99.
I also had a good time with Celina. I did ask her, it's actually Celina, with a "see" when she was working at Mainhatten. She is cute and petite, providing the perfect angle for penetration in doggy. Yes, her BBBJ was very nice. I also enjoyed giving her a bit of DATY. She was born in Thailand, but grew up in Germany. She barely even understands her native language, she told me. She is very much like German girl. - FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2182087]Maybe she does with certain clientele. Or at certain times. But she was all sweet in a 100 E /60 session with me on a busy Saturday in May. I got no complaints. To me that is a smart move as I will happily repeat.[/QUOTE]Madi told me her Oase rate = + 50 for kissing, on end of March 2017 when we were in the room, so after 3 enjoyable rooms with her at History, 2 on our first time, I left the room without sex after 15 mn. She asked I stayed with her for 30 mn, but I refused. No more for me, too disappointing behavior.
I often saw her not busy on my other visits, so maybe she did lower to club rate. She was high level at History. If she wants big money she should go to Globe or Aphrodisia.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2182087]Maybe she does with certain clientele. Or at certain times. But she was all sweet in a 100 E /60 session with me on a busy Saturday in May. I got no complaints. To me that is a smart move as I will happily repeat.[/QUOTE]Madi may charge 100 EUR for a 30 min with DFK, but she does DFK in a 60 min session for 100 EUR.
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[QUOTE=PokePro;2182323]I visited Oase in Thursday 17/5/18. It was my first FKK experience and I was blown away by the concept of a place like this. Amazing. I had a wonder time with 4 different women who's names escape me.
However. I went to Sharks the following day and was even more blown away. I know this is an Oase thread but Sharks blew Oase away on every level. The atmosphere, the food (far better), cleanliness, looks, and most of all women. I had a great time at Oase too, but knowing what I know now, I wish I would've gone to Sharks both days.[/QUOTE]I think it's safe to say that both clubs will have high traffic in the Hessen area for the near future. Last time at Sharks I noticed that the eye-catchers were blonde barbie silicone types with Oase having more sexy, bitchy looking girls. Sharks also has more girls in one open area where Oase has fewer girls spread throughout little various corners of the club. When looking down from the second level at Oase, I remember thinking to myself, "I can see why someone would be more impressed with Sharks. All of these Barbie type girls are right in your face."
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I'm not Ken!
[QUOTE=Takedown;2182453]I When looking down from the second level at Oase, I remember thinking to myself, "I can see why someone would be more impressed with Sharks. All of these Barbie type girls are right in your face."[/QUOTE]To each their own but personally I very much like Barbie Doll type girls! But I haven't found them to be more prevalent at Oase. As often quoted in these forums. It fluctuates. 3 months ago I thought (on only two trips) that Oase was better on LU. This last week for me, Sharks was miles ahead. It's cyclical.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2182453] When looking down from the second level at Oase, I remember thinking to myself, "I can see why someone would be more impressed with Sharks. All of these Barbie type girls are right in your face."[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PayForIt;2182523]To each their own but personally I very much like Barbie Doll type girls! But I haven't found them to be more prevalent at Oase. As often quoted in these forums. It fluctuates. 3 months ago I thought (on only two trips) that Oase was better on LU. This last week for me, Sharks was miles ahead. It's cyclical.[/QUOTE]Whoops, I meant to say that Sharks has the Barbie Blondes.
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[QUOTE=Tommylove;2182351]Me too. I saw her last night and had a great time. Half Thai and half European. She says half Italian, but I'm sure she's half Romanian. Amazing DFK, sweet and fun. She is gorgeous, sexy, and gives a killer, wet, perfect BBBJ. I looooove f**king her mouth. I was so happy with her I chose to complete the session with anal. Her way of thanking me was to waive 30 min of. 90 min super session. Two thumbs up for this one![/QUOTE]How does she look? It isn't thebine with the glasses, right?
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Barbies!
[QUOTE=Takedown;2182533]Whoops, I meant to say that Sharks has the Barbie Blondes.[/QUOTE]Ah. But I'm a sucker for them wherever anyway! The Cameron Diaz lookalike at Oase and her pal with the blonde extensions probably qualify for the Barbie club too.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2182672]Ah. But I'm a sucker for them wherever anyway! The Cameron Diaz lookalike at Oase and her pal with the blonde extensions probably qualify for the Barbie club too.[/QUOTE]Adela is natural look, among too many tattooed or silicon or botox or collagen.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2182523]To each their own but personally I very much like Barbie Doll type girls! But I haven't found them to be more prevalent at Oase. As often quoted in these forums. It fluctuates. 3 months ago I thought (on only two trips) that Oase was better on LU. This last week for me, Sharks was miles ahead. It's cyclical.[/QUOTE]Who are the stunners at Sharks? Very few girls there jumped immediately onto my priority list for very pretty faced slim model types. Plenty of great bodies but girls with both a stunning face and body were quite rare. Brendan (Sharks) has the body but the face is not quite stunning.
At Oase I recently was faced with a choice 3 or 4 girls with extremely pretty faces (for me) and great slim bodies. Luana, Ada, and a very white skinned girl I did not get the name of (she was busy with a customer), were some examples.
Oase seems well ahead for pretty faces to go with the great bodies.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2182438]Madi may charge 100 EUR for a 30 min with DFK, but she does DFK in a 60 min session for 100 EUR.[/QUOTE]Most probably, yes. I can only speak for my 1 h session with her of course. No negotiations prior to session or in the room. Things seems to float naturally and included as much as DFK / DATY / BJ / CFS as I wanted. I expect no less. Good times, and I am most likely to repeat.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2179643]In this, sad case, the trend is not your friend.
I agree, I feel more and more, the services are no longer there for 50 bucks, let alone 100 bucks when opting for the one hour. I am finding more and more girls are insisting on 150 bucks for one hour. For certain nationalities it is 200 for the one hour even. Catastrophe.
One part of me cannot blame them. If the value of a 50 bucks in 2002 is worth 60 to 70 bucks now then you can see the resistance in the mental state of girls providing these intimate services for the money earned. So they restrict the services or the time allowed to make up for the lowered value of their 50 buck basic service.
Like Jnpr30 rightly said, I remember you got a lot for your 50 several years ago but this is less the case now..[/QUOTE]If your salary has gone up in that time, what is the issue about paying more for the same service? Like a lot of things, they get cheaper in time but with less quality since people shop on price alone.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2182719]Most probably, yes. I can only speak for my 1 h session with her of course. No negotiations prior to session or in the room. Things seems to float naturally and included as much as DFK / DATY / BJ / CFS as I wanted. I expect no less. Good times, and I am most likely to repeat.[/QUOTE]When she started at Oase on March 2017, because rate was lower than at History, she asked for 50 extra for kissing, when we never spoke about money at History, so she got 50 for 15 mn without touching her and never again. She said I fucked her mind, when she had 3 rooms with me at History and refused a regular who was angry, to repeat on our first day. 2 hours later, she smiled again, she can keep on smiling now. I often saw her not busy on my visits, so maybe she understood Oase is not Switzerland. For big money, Globe she tried. She was great at History, but I hate to be fucked.
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[QUOTE=Nympholepsy;2182702]Who are the stunners at Sharks? Very few girls there jumped immediately onto my priority list for very pretty faced slim model types. Plenty of great bodies but girls with both a stunning face and body were quite rare. Brendan (Sharks) has the body but the face is not quite stunning.
At Oase I recently was faced with a choice 3 or 4 girls with extremely pretty faces (for me) and great slim bodies. Luana, Ada, and a very white skinned girl I did not get the name of (she was busy with a customer), were some examples.
Oase seems well ahead for pretty faces to go with the great bodies.[/QUOTE]You seems to have similar taste on stunner as me. Pretty face with slim or fit body like model is the way to go for me.
So Oase has some stunners huh? I may give another try at Oase than NRW for summer maybe.
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[QUOTE=Nympholepsy;2182702]Who are the stunners at Sharks? Very few girls there jumped immediately onto my priority list for very pretty faced slim model types. Plenty of great bodies but girls with both a stunning face and body were quite rare. Brendan (Sharks) has the body but the face is not quite stunning.
At Oase I recently was faced with a choice 3 or 4 girls with extremely pretty faces (for me) and great slim bodies. Luana, Ada, and a very white skinned girl I did not get the name of (she was busy with a customer), were some examples.
Oase seems well ahead for pretty faces to go with the great bodies.[/QUOTE]For my eyes, both Oase and Sharks are quite average for pretty faces. I don t see any Sabina / Ramona Scarlet Johanson at the moment. On my last visit at Oase on Saturday 5 May, despite Katrin. Bu tried to make me repeat with her and I'm sure she would have made her job, but only Vera was really pretty for me, but I need a more woman type, even she was really lovely for our room.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2183017]When she started at Oase on March 2017, because rate was lower than at History, she asked for 50 extra for kissing, when we never spoke about money at History, so she got 50 for 15 mn without touching her and never again. She said I fucked her mind, when she had 3 rooms with me at History and refused a regular who was angry, to repeat on our first day. 2 hours later, she smiled again, she can keep on smiling now. I often saw her not busy on my visits, so maybe she understood Oase is not Switzerland. For big money, Globe she tried. She was great at History, but I hate to be fucked.[/QUOTE]Yes, we know. You have repeated your meeting with Madi "a hundred times" by now. It's not that we do not believe you, or that we are not happy about reading about a bad meeting. It's just that when it becomes repetetive, over and over again, people tend to believe there is no other way with Madi.
This leads to gents with low self esteem overpaying Madi because they believe anything that is written on ISG. Not fair. Also, it's not fair to Madi who potentially loses a lot of business because gents avoid her due to reports about overcharging for standard services. Madi providing normal good service in a 1 h session (100 E) is echoed many places on forums right now. We sort of need to let that sink in.
Does it mean that the next gent in line will have a risk free meeting with Madi? Of course not. She may possibly still try to overcharge at certain times. Or when meeting some sexy gent from the east. Or, or. Nobody can tell for sure. But hopefully the next gent who wants to take a chance with Madi can do so with an open mind. If Madi responds with the wrong answer, just move on.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2183158]Yes, we know. You have repeated your meeting with Madi "a hundred times" by now. It's not that we do not believe you, or that we are not happy about reading about a bad meeting. It's just that when it becomes repetetive, over and over again, people tend to believe there is no other way with Madi.
This leads to gents with low self esteem overpaying Madi because they believe anything that is written on ISG. Not fair. Also, it's not fair to Madi who potentially loses a lot of business because gents avoid her due to reports about overcharging for standard services. Madi providing normal good service in a 1 h session (100 E) is echoed many places on forums right now. We sort of need to let that sink in.
Does it mean that the next gent in line will have a risk free meeting with Madi? Of course not. She may possibly still try to overcharge at certain times. Or when meeting some sexy gent from the east. Or, or. Nobody can tell for sure. But hopefully the next gent who wants to take a chance with Madi can do so with an open mind. If Madi responds with the wrong answer, just move on.[/QUOTE]If you are able to read better my posts, she is not ex Madi World who never talked about money with me for our many rooms. I wrote maybe Mady ex History I saw many times not busy when she is one of the rare woman types at Oase, understood now Oase have not same rates than Switzerland. I really enjoyed with her at History before discovering exceptional Lorena, so even she disappointed me and lost all her charm for me, if she is still on History level, for sure she should be one of the best in bed at Oase.
It s only my own subjective experience, the good for our 3 rooms at History, the bad disappointment at Oase.
Low percentage who visit clubs, read us and everybody should be able to think with own brain.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2183158]Yes, we know. You have repeated your meeting with Madi "a hundred times" by now. It's not that we do not believe you, or that we are not happy about reading about a bad meeting. It's just that when it becomes repetetive, over and over again, people tend to believe there is no other way with Madi.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I get your pain. Repetitive subjective opinions get pretty annoying after a while. Sometimes when I see a new poster regurgitating some of these pieces of "advice" I just have to shake my head.
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A more substantive report on Celina
I live in the US and don’t get to visit Oase often. So I was in Frankfurt for a day on business, and decided drop by that evening to see how things had changed. I hooked up with Celina is half Thai and half European. She says half Italian, but I’m sure she’s half Romanian. Perfect bod with B cups, feet that would a foot fetishist swoon, amazing legs and ass, a pretty shaved kitty, and a beauty pageant winner’s face. In terms of services, she happily offers an amazing DFK, and gives a killer, wet, perfect BBBJ... I loooooved fucking her sweet little mouth.
In 69, she was on top and repositioned herself and teased me with her butt, and I started licking it. She started to moan, and told me she really loved assfucking. I’d like to note that she has a pornstar’s perfect anally bleached butthole. I was so happy with her I chose to complete the session with anal—costing 100€ extra—and her little chocolate starfish was absolutely a blast to fuck. Tight, but not too tight, and she does seem to actually enjoy it.
I ended up spending 90 minutes with her, and her way of thanking me was to waive 30 min of time in this super session. I haven’t done this since I fell a little for Ewa from Serbia, who looked like a young Catherine Zeta Jones. Anyway, Celina mentioned that it’s kind of a grind to do one vanilla 50€ session after another. She said it was a delight to meet a guy who was into more gourmet than fast food.
You know, Celina’s BBBJ deserves special mention, as there were so many lovely flourishes and nuances. For example, she has this way of lightly sucking while I fucked her mouth, it felt as good a fucking a nice wet pussy bareback the entire stroke. She has the ability to vary the intensity, from klixen light tongue slathering to deep throatfucking. And during 69, she stops and says, “I want to look at my face when I’m blowing you!” And she gets into a lovely rhythm during face fucking that is really exquisite. And the final orgasm, which I chose to do CIM even though she didn’t want to charge so much, was excruciatingly slow and deep and very skillfully rendered for an extended milking.
Afterwards, I was so fulfilled that I didn’t really want to fuck anyone else afterwards. Although this little black hottie from Ghana was tempting. That sense of fulfillment continued after the session, partly because every time she saw me, she’d come over to DFK. Man, she is one smart little *****!
I met an interesting Chinese guy, from Chicago and in town for business, we compared notes. We both noticed this really hot Romanian beauty, with pink hair who talked a good game. Perfect body on this one, but I can’t remember her name. Anyway, I was tempted but my spidey sense was tingling. Hours later, he told me he saw her, and she was an upsell queen, and when he refused, she assumed the starfish position. He was kind of pissed, but had a really good gal afterwards so he didn’t really care.
Now, finally, a few comments since I haven’t been here in a while. The place did a little renovation — they removed the Kino cinema room, making it harder to enjoy a little squalid public sex. They knocked out the wall to make it part of the main area, and installed hookahs, so it's all smoky. As far as I'm concerned, they totally screwed the pooch by doing this. One of the best features was the Kino room, as you could clearly determine a girl’s GFE level there.
As for the lineup, I’d say that the general level of hotties seems lower. I'd say of the 80 women present, only a handful were 10s, but you know, most of the rest were entirely doable. There were a few subpar girls, who sadly worked much harder trying to get clients. However, the heyday was at FKK-Atlantis, before they were shut down for tax evasion. I remember visited Oase one time during the Frankfurt Book Fair, and there were maybe 150 girls there and the competition was intense. I’d guess there were maybe twenty super hottie 10’s walking around, with very few sub-par looking girls. That was a hot line up.
Anyway, I hear the line up at Sharks is better, and I had planned to drop by there to check it out, but sadly, I was called away by business.
About lineups. It’s really quite amazing to see 70-80 pretty women running around naked. For some reason, FKKs are more intimate. This made me wonder if there were a scientific way to assess the hotness of a line up. So during my flight home, I came up with something I call the LUST metric: aka, the “line up sexual thermometer”.
The approach I came up with first measures the mean attractiveness of a line up, and then provides a bonus based on the size of the lineup (5% boost for each 25 girls over a base of 25), plus a boost for expectation of GFE. I include a penalty for girls wearing clothes, because naked lineups are much more impressive.
Using this score the all time best lineup I’ve ever seen — at FKK Atlantis a decade ago — ranks a 9.8, which I set to a scorching 120˚ F (for FKK). The Oase I saw last night comes in at 8.5, around 100˚. If you’re interested in seeing the formulas, let me know by PM and I’ll send you a spreadsheet.
Finally, one more thought about changes. Girls at Oase used to grab guys cocks more aggressively before. Some even gave away freebie BBBJ samples. Now, there’s a subtle “lead qualification” process, where a guy has to indicate he is likely to say yes to a session, before any touching happens. It has depressed the sexual energy level subtly. In Thailand, when you can see fifty naked strippers walking about in a hot club, there is still a subtle distancing due to the “look but don’t touch” vibe, which FKKs had eliminated but is sadly returning.
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[QUOTE=Tommylove;2183479]I live in the US and dont get to visit Oase often. So I was in Frankfurt for a day on business, and decided drop by that evening to see how things had changed. I hooked up with Celina is half Thai and half European. She says half Italian, but Im sure shes half Romanian. Perfect bod with B cups, feet that would a foot fetishist swoon, amazing legs and ass, a pretty shaved kitty, and a beauty pageant winners face. In terms of services, she happily offers an amazing DFK, and gives a killer, wet, perfect BBBJ... I loooooved fucking her sweet little mouth.
Afterwards, I was so fulfilled that I didnt really want to fuck anyone else afterwards. Although this little black hottie from Ghana was tempting. That sense of fulfillment continued after the session, partly because every time she saw me, shed come over to DFK. Man, she is one smart little *****!
[/QUOTE]Great review Tommylove.
Very fun read, informative, entertaining and detailed. I have seen this Celina girl walking around often with a smile as she passes and often wondered about her. Maybe she is worth tossing a crisp note at. I get why they always want to say Spain or Italy or some other ' exotic' place but I (personally) do not give a shit where they are from just how they will be in the room they are going to with me.
Instead they all tell you they are half Romanian, half Italian or something else and that it is their ' first day on the job. ' No substitute for experience and I am not shopping girlfriends I am shopping sex workers. It sounds like you found a winner in this girl. Great job.
If you do stop by again that girl from Ghana is a good one, I had a fun hour with her. Well worth the 100 for a fun filled hour.
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[QUOTE=Tommylove;2183479]I live in the US and dont get to visit Oase often. So I was in Frankfurt for a day on business, and decided drop by that evening to see how things had changed. I hooked up with Celina is half Thai and half European. She says half Italian, but Im sure shes half Romanian. Perfect bod with B cups, feet that would a foot fetishist swoon, amazing legs and ass, a pretty shaved kitty, and a beauty pageant winners face. In terms of services, she happily offers an amazing DFK, and gives a killer, wet, perfect BBBJ... I loooooved fucking her sweet little mouth.[/QUOTE]Great review, I saw Selina about 3 years ago at Mainhattan. Great session as well. I am coming to Frankfurt in 2 weeks and I am debating whether to go to Oase or Sharks. Do you know what days Selina works there?
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[QUOTE=SF49U;2183774]Great review, I saw Selina about 3 years ago at Mainhattan. Great session as well. I am coming to Frankfurt in 2 weeks and I am debating whether to go to Oase or Sharks. Do you know what days Selina works there?[/QUOTE]I'm arriving in 2 weeks from the USA For some FKK action Tuesday the 4th thru Friday the 8th. Only get to Frankfurt 2 times per year, so this time will be the longest visit to FKK land for me- 4 straight days. Funny, I was trying to decide whether to do 2 days at Sharks as opposed to splitting days with 1 at Oase. I like Mainhatten as well, and plan to be there at least 1 day. I like to get there just after opening till late night, and sometimes skip hotels, and just get as many Z's as possible. With the weather being so nice outside now, I would think it's possible to have some nice rest outside between sessions. I sometimes see guys sleeping in Sharks, Mainhatten or Oase. Has anyone ever been as crazy as me, and gone without a hotel room for couple nights straight, basically using the clubs as a hotel, LOL? As of now, I have a cheapo hotel nearby the HBF in FF reserved, but could cancel that. Tried to get Atlanta hotel in Darmstadt for Wednesday night, but looks like all the mongers already filled it up.
Other question: Considering renting a car to get up to Oase and Sharks. Is it worth it renting a car vs going by the trains. I've done the train to Sharks and Oase in the past. Not bad, only problem is with the timetable being a big gap so have to either leave earlier than I want, or at closing. Thanks in advance for your advice.
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[QUOTE=USAMongerer;2183872] . I sometimes see guys sleeping in Sharks, Mainhatten or Oase. Has anyone ever been as crazy as me, and gone without a hotel room for couple nights straight, basically using the clubs as a hotel, LOL? As of now, I have a cheapo hotel nearby the HBF in FF reserved, but could cancel that.
Other question: Considering renting a car to get up to Oase and Sharks. Is it worth it renting a car vs going by the trains. I've done the train to Sharks and Oase in the past. Not bad, only problem is with the timetable being a big gap so have to either leave earlier than I want, or at closing. Thanks in advance for your advice.[/QUOTE]Several guys save a few bucks and sleep in clubs and cars and skip hotels, nothing wrong with that if it works for your comfort level. I get a hotel so I have somewhere to keep all my stuff, to sleep for a few hours and on Dietz days I get a big breakfast since they do not serve food at Day Care and if I go to any of the clubs you go to food is plentiful. It is only 60 e a night with tax so it is well worth it to have an option, just me,others do not bother with lodging.
Those three clubs and one other shithole are the only places I visit, one train drops me off and I can walk to the shithole for free and the other trains get me to Sharks in 19 minutes (do not take the S-Bahn go upper tracks take the RB68 to Heidelberg for 8. 5 e and it leaves FRA on the:06 and leaves Darmstadt on the:30) and a 10 min cab ride. 30 min HBF to the front door. Train/taxi together is 22.5 e one way. Cab back (if you get hotel) as low as 40 e (I think that is an outlier just got lucky) but normally 50 e-55 e.
Oase 31 minutes and about 20 e one way there that included the cab ride from the end of the line, cab back is 45 e fixed if they insist on the meter 50 e (splitting hairs). Mainhatten is Tram 11 for 2 e only each way, taxi 22-24 e (25 e-30 e) if rush hour from the HBF and tell them to take the back way thru the industrial area during peak rush hours, will save 2e :D And don't tip them, the clubs will grease their paws instead. Cab back 22 e-23 e.
For me, I prefer the trains / cabs let someone else do the work, no risk of accident or speeding tickets although many prefer a car. I have done the numbers really comes out to a wash however you split it up. I plan to rent a car once I add some new places to the mix such as World, or if I try Bernd's or Finca, Samya or NRW etc. For this very reason not renting a car axes your ability to economically without doubling up on transport costs to do multiple clubs in one day.
I am considering a car so I can do Dietz in the AM and than after 5 head to another club and eat well and have a night time session or two and having a car in this case will let me do multiple clubs cheaper. All a matter of personal preference.
Have a great trip, practice safe sex, tip no one and travel safe :D
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2184049]Several guys save a few bucks and sleep in clubs and cars and skip hotels, nothing wrong with that if it works for your comfort level. I get a hotel so I have somewhere to keep all my stuff, to sleep for a few hours and on Dietz days I get a big breakfast since they do not serve food at Day Care and if I go to any of the clubs you go to food is plentiful. It is only 60 e a night with tax so it is well worth it to have an option, just me,others do not bother with lodging.
Those three clubs and one other shithole are the only places I visit, one train drops me off and I can walk to the shithole for free and the other trains get me to Sharks in 19 minutes (do not take the S-Bahn go upper tracks take the RB68 to Heidelberg for 8. 5 e and it leaves FRA on the:06 and leaves Darmstadt on the:30) and a 10 min cab ride. 30 min HBF to the front door. Train/taxi together is 22.5 e one way. Cab back (if you get hotel) as low as 40 e (I think that is an outlier just got lucky) but normally 50 e-55 e.
Oase 31 minutes and about 20 e one way there that included the cab ride from the end of the line, cab back is 45 e fixed if they insist on the meter 50 e (splitting hairs). Mainhatten is Tram 11 for 2 e only each way, taxi 22-24 e (25 e-30 e) if rush hour from the HBF and tell them to take the back way thru the industrial area during peak rush hours, will save 2e :D And don't tip them, the clubs will grease their paws instead. Cab back 22 e-23 e.
For me, I prefer the trains / cabs let someone else do the work, no risk of accident or speeding tickets although many prefer a car. I have done the numbers really comes out to a wash however you split it up. I plan to rent a car once I add some new places to the mix such as World, or if I try Bernd's or Finca, Samya or NRW etc. For this very reason not renting a car axes your ability to economically without doubling up on transport costs to do multiple clubs in one day.[/QUOTE]I think that you are joking when you speak about road accident when you are fucking so many times without condoms in Dietz.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2184049] take the RB68 to Heidelberg for 8. 5 e and it leaves FRA on the:06 and leaves Darmstadt on the:30) and a 10 min cab ride. 30 min HBF to the front door. Train/taxi together is 22.5 e one way.[/QUOTE]The :06 arrives at Darmstadt Hbf at :25. Just enough time to go out of the station, cross the road to the bus stop next to McDonald's and take the R bus (direction Nordbahnhof) for free (included in train price) at around :31 to :33. Arrives at the 'Daimlerweg' stop outside Sharks in about 7- 8 minutes. Thus for less than 10 minutes more, total cost one way is just the train fare of around 8.50 euros.
For the return trip, catch the R bus at :02 and buy the ticket all the way to Frankfurt Hbf from the bus conductor for around 8.50 euros. The RB train leaves at :30, and normally arrives belatedly at around :52. (always either a short delay at Langen or before the bridge across the Main.) Note that this option is not available late at night.
My total transport cost to Sharks is thus 17 euros, compared to around 30 euros for Oase, and around 70 euros for World.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2184188]The :06 arrives at Darmstadt Hbf at :25. Just enough time to go out of the station, cross the road to the bus stop next to McDonald's and take the R bus (direction Nordbahnhof) for free (included in train price) at around :31 to :33. Arrives at the 'Daimlerweg' stop outside Sharks in about 7- 8 minutes. Thus for less than 10 minutes more, total cost one way is just the train fare of around 8.50 euros.
For the return trip, catch the R bus at :02 and buy the ticket all the way to Frankfurt Hbf from the bus conductor for around 8.50 euros. The RB train leaves at :30, and normally arrives belatedly at around :52. (always either a short delay at Langen or before the bridge across the Main.) Note that this option is not available late at night.
My total transport cost to Sharks is thus 17 euros, compared to around 30 euros for Oase, and around 70 euros for World.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for your reply and info. I've done the routine with train and bus to Daimlerweg. My dilemma is mostly that I'd like to stay very late at the clubs, and leaving at 4 or 5 am, if no hotel I have those early hours to get thru. Saw few deals where I can get a rental car for like 23 eu per day. Plus use the car to sleep xtra hours after leaving the club. Was thinking to just go to Sharks Wednesday, and Thursday too. Only because of the hassle and cost of going up to Oase. And having to catch that early train out of there which I find irritating to be bound to train schedules to leave early. Again, with the car can be nice. But gas, risk of accident, etc. Was going to splurge and stay at Atlanta for the 1st time, but they have nothing reasonably priced for Wednesday. Especially the few hours I'd be there makes it kind of ridiculous. And the Euro vs my USD, losing 15% on that deal too. Not trying to be a cheapo, but between flights, trains, club entry's, girls, hotels. It gets costly for fucking, although I'm still in love with the FKKs, having tried first time in 2013. I get to Frankfurt 2 x per year, about every 6 months. Can stay a week or so if I want, but usually keep it to 3 or 4 club visits.
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This question of closing time to next open time comes up often. I always rent a hotel and have not had to deal with that issue. But are n’t there all night diners, coffee shops or other such establishments around? Such as Denny's, for example. If you can find such a diner, then just park your car there drink coffee and use the time to post some reports on ISG, and be ready for the open at your next club.
I often fly out early in the morning. On my last night, renting the hotel is a total waste as I am in the club till 5 PM, go straight to my hotel to pick up the bag and drive to the airport. I kept reminding myself to book the room upto the penultimate day only, but somehow forget at the last minute. I plan to rectify this on my next visit, whenever that is, and check out one day early to save some cash.
Btw, for the dollar denominated mongers, right now is actually pretty decent as Euro slid back to 1.17, and looking to push down further. Best in almost 10 months.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2184188]The :06 arrives at Darmstadt Hbf at :25. Just enough time to go out of the station, cross the road to the bus stop next to McDonald's and take the R bus (direction Nordbahnhof) for free (included in train price) at around :31 to :33. Arrives at the 'Daimlerweg' stop outside Sharks in about 7- 8 minutes. Thus for less than 10 minutes more, total cost one way is just the train fare of around 8.50 euros.
For the return trip, catch the R bus at :02 and buy the ticket all the way to Frankfurt Hbf from the bus conductor for around 8.50 euros. The RB train leaves at :30, and normally arrives belatedly at around :52. (always either a short delay at Langen or before the bridge across the Main.) Note that this option is not available late at night.
My total transport cost to Sharks is thus 17 euros, compared to around 30 euros for Oase, and around 70 euros for World.[/QUOTE]Very helpful post. Can you please describe the 30 euros route to Oase like you did for Sharks?
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[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2184563]Very helpful post. Can you please describe the 30 euros route to Oase like you did for Sharks?[/QUOTE]Almost 5 euros (4.90 I think) for the S5 ticket to Friedrichsdorf station, and 10 euros for taxi from Friedrichsdorf to Oase. The actual fare would be a few cents above 10 euros; just pretend you have no loose change and the driver would not want to waste time and would thus tell you that 10 euros is good enough. He will subsequent queue behind you to collect another 10 euros from the club anyway.
The S5 leaves Frankfurt Hbf at :24 and :54 and takes 26 minutes to get to Friedrichsdorf. During working hours on working days, one can also take the S5 at :09 and :39 that ends at Bad Homburg, from where you can rush to another local train on a different track going to Friedrichsdorf. Many others would also be making that dash, so just follow the crowd that is rushing, and not those ambling towards the station exit. Last train is at 00:38.
The return journey for the S5 to Frankfurt leaves at :08 and :38. During working hours, one can also catch the local train to Bad Homburg at :20 and :50, and change to an S5 that would be starting from Bad Homburg to Frankfurt.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2184501]But are nt there all night diners, coffee shops or other such establishments around? Such as Denny's, for example. If you can find such a diner, then just park your car there drink coffee and use the time to post some reports on ISG, and be ready for the open at your next club.[/QUOTE]We are talking Burgholzhausen. Or Bad Homburg in best case. I don't think you will find a store / fast food restaurant open 24 h. Most McD will close at a certain time. Denny's is not in Germany.
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Oase-World-Oase practicalities.
Just wondering if anyone has experience of going by taxi / public transport to Oase from World or vice versa? It doesn't look that far on a map? I'm going to give World a go in two weeks (June 7) as I have only done it once before but have done Oase several times. Rental car is probably not an option.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2184611]We are talking Burgholzhausen. Or Bad Homburg in best case. I don't think you will find a store / fast food restaurant open 24 h. Most McD will close at a certain time. Denny's is not in Germany.[/QUOTE]I said *such as* Denny's.
These guys are hopping between clubs. They don't mind driving 20 min. Is n't there even a single 24 H diner or coffee shop in Frankfurt?
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Best bet is to get on the autobahn and stop at one of the rest stops. Gas station sells drinks and coffee all night long. I've taken several naps in the car while waiting for a club to open. Between Oase and Sharks, there's about 3 stops that you can safely pull into parking spot and gets some zzz's.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2184787]I said *such as* Denny's.
These guys are hopping between clubs. They don't mind driving 20 min. Is n't there even a single 24 H diner or coffee shop in Frankfurt?[/QUOTE]Simple solution: go to Google maps, search for McDonalds or any other fast food chain while having the entire Frankfurt region shown (or smaller regions), then click on the hits and check opening hours. Some normally have 24/7 openings, but also usually only for drive through like the one near Aca gold up in Ratingen / Düsseldorf. But as mentioned here, for napping an hour or two, gas stations are the way to go. They even have selected parking areas especially for this purpose.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2184611]We are talking Burgholzhausen. Or Bad Homburg in best case. I don't think you will find a store / fast food restaurant open 24 h. Most McD will close at a certain time. Denny's is not in Germany.[/QUOTE]A search would take you 1 minute.
This one says it is open 24/7:
McDonald's Restaurant.
Hans-Mess-Straße 2, 61440 Oberursel (Taunus), Germany.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/sSa4XmEKzEF2[/URL]
This one too:
McDonald's.
Friedberger Landstraße 291,60389 Frankfurt am Main, Germany.
[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/Wf2mfd4n2nw[/URL]
While some others have open 24/7 just on satuedays.
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There's more options if you have a car. Around Frankfurt for sure.
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Had a great day at Oase today esp since the sun was out (think I got royally barbequed after falling asleep outside).
I also spent close to 6 hours waiting for Lisa, and boy-was-she-fucking-worth-it. She fucked me so hard I was pretty much staggering outside for a 2nd round of oven fries and sausages.
Amazing BBBJ and ass licking (without asking for it) followed by fairly rancorous fucking and a massage (even a foot massage) to round it off. She then laid down close to me and we talked for 15 minutes about when she's going for holiday and when she can be back for me to find her.
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[QUOTE=Abox79;2184779]Just wondering if anyone has experience of going by taxi / public transport to Oase from World or vice versa? It doesn't look that far on a map? I'm going to give World a go in two weeks (June 7) as I have only done it once before but have done Oase several times. Rental car is probably not an option.[/QUOTE][URL]www.bahn.de[/URL] is your best friend. Do a search.
The key is to NOT go via Frankfurt Central Station (Hauptbahnhof) but via Friedberg. You will then save 30 mnts (the trip by train takes 50 mnts in stead of 1 h20).
The costs by train is 12,50E, but you must add taxi costs. I bet you can find a taxi taking you there directly for around 50- 60E (fixed price). Your decision.
A car rental is so much more convenient, but train/taxi is absolutely doable.
I will pm you regarding your other question.
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Timing Question
Seeking the advice from a seasoned regular. I travel from the US so I try to increase my odds of a good time as best I can.
1. Does it really matter if you go in fall, summer or spring? I heard in summer the top girls are gone on holiday so the LU can be sketchy? I did go to Artemis in summer and LU was bad. Coincidence or summer norm?
2. I normally try to go on weekend cause I assume it will have the best LU. Or is any day a potential good day?
3. Side note: If someone chooses to have outdoor sex out in the open, is it ok to stop and watch? Or is it best to steal a glance but not stare. Not sure.
Basically was going to go in fall during the weekend, but have opportunity to go in July during weekday. Impatience and wanting to enjoy the outdoor scene, I'm leaning on July. But LU quality also a big factor. Thoughts? Thank you.
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1. There are good and bad days in every season. No clear answer. Just go and take a chance.
2. There are more girls on the weekends, but sometimes also more men who occupy the bestlooking girls. Many girls take Monday (and possibly Tuesday) off. Don't overthink this. Nobody is able to predict a really good day. Just go and take a chance.
3. Few people are comfy with gents staring. Can't recommend. Normal "etiquette" would be steal a glance, smile, and say "have fun!" or "viel Spass!" if eye contact.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2185268]1. There are good and bad days in every season. No clear answer. Just go and take a chance.
2. There are more girls on the weekends, but sometimes also more men who occupy the bestlooking girls. Many girls take Monday (and possibly Tuesday) off. Don't overthink this. Nobody is able to predict a really good day. Just go and take a chance.
3. Few people are comfy with gents staring. Can't recommend. Normal "etiquette" would be steal a glance, smile, and say "have fun!" or "viel Spass!" if eye contact.[/QUOTE]Thank you Shark16! You're right. I do overthink things. Really, what's the worse that can happen. I have amazing sex with a 7 or 8 instead of a 9 or 10. Ill live. Thank you on the to-stare or not-to-stare question. Maybe Ill bring sunglasses. I mean, its like live porn. How can anyone not steal a glance? Anyway, thanks again!
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2185268]1. There are good and bad days in every season. No clear answer. Just go and take a chance.
2. There are more girls on the weekends, but sometimes also more men who occupy the bestlooking girls. Many girls take Monday (and possibly Tuesday) off. Don't overthink this. Nobody is able to predict a really good day. Just go and take a chance..[/QUOTE]This is so true! I have been 6 times to 3 clubs mostly different days and I can never say what to expect. It is just like a box of chocolates!
The only thing for sure is that I will not visit at opening time or 2-3 hours later unless I want to go for a quick fuck then visit the city and come back with same ticket later.
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[QUOTE=ListerL;2185204]Had a great day at Oase today esp since the sun was out (think I got royally barbequed after falling asleep outside).
I also spent close to 6 hours waiting for Lisa, and boy-was-she-fucking-worth-it. She fucked me so hard I was pretty much staggering outside for a 2nd round of oven fries and sausages.
Amazing BBBJ and ass licking (without asking for it) followed by fairly rancorous fucking and a massage (even a foot massage) to round it off. She then laid down close to me and we talked for 15 minutes about when she's going for holiday and when she can be back for me to find her.[/QUOTE]Can you describe Lisa?
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2185360]Can you describe Lisa?[/QUOTE]Tan skin, claims to be from Italy. Her voice is a giveaway because it's very squeaky and high pitched. Slightly aggressive with the sell (will get on your lap and start rubbing your genitals / kissing your neck / ears). About 5'6" with natural B-cup breasts and black hair. God I'm getting a boner again writing this.
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[QUOTE=ChuckZ;2185331] Thank you on the to-stare or not-to-stare question. Maybe Ill bring sunglasses. I mean, its like live porn. How can anyone not steal a glance? Anyway, thanks again![/QUOTE]There are good prices for Opera glasses on e-bay!
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[QUOTE=ChuckZ;2185331]Thank you on the to-stare or not-to-stare question. Maybe Ill bring sunglasses. I mean, its like live porn. How can anyone not steal a glance? Anyway, thanks again![/QUOTE]Of course you can steal a glance! It's a FKK. It's public. And very relaxed.
But you need to look at the situation a little. If a couple is going fucking in the middle of the crowd, of course they want and enjoy the attention. Sometimes 2 or 3 girls with one gent. Sometimes 3 gents on 1 girl. But most of the time couples are going to the sunbeds furthest away from the crowds by the pool. Their ambition is probably merely looking for a relaxed time, feeling free and enjoy doing it in the open. They may not necessarily be that interested in attention.
Sometimes multiple couples are doing it in the sunbeds furthest away. By the sound of the smiles, moaning and laughter they are having a helluva good time. Bring a girl and join the party!
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2185437]Of course you can steal a glance! It's a FKK. It's public. And very relaxed.
But you need to look at the situation a little. If a couple is going fucking in the middle of the crowd, of course they want and enjoy the attention. Sometimes 2 or 3 girls with one gent. Sometimes 3 gents on 1 girl. But most of the time couples are going to the sunbeds furthest away from the crowds by the pool. Their ambition is probably merely looking for a relaxed time, feeling free and enjoy doing it in the open. They may not necessarily be that interested in attention.
Sometimes multiple couples are doing it in the sunbeds furthest away. By the sound of the smiles, moaning and laughter they are having a helluva good time. Bring a girl and join the party![/QUOTE]If I recall correctly yesterday. There was an Asian guy getting it on with 2 girls right next to the pool and he stopped mid-session and walked over to the bar to ask for drinks (with a boner and everything) before finishing with them in the sun beds further away. But I was drifting in and out of sleep so I might've been mistaken.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2185437]Of course you can steal a glance! It's a FKK. It's public. And very relaxed.
But you need to look at the situation a little. If a couple is going fucking in the middle of the crowd, of course they want and enjoy the attention. Sometimes 2 or 3 girls with one gent. Sometimes 3 gents on 1 girl. But most of the time couples are going to the sunbeds furthest away from the crowds by the pool. Their ambition is probably merely looking for a relaxed time, feeling free and enjoy doing it in the open. They may not necessarily be that interested in attention.
Sometimes multiple couples are doing it in the sunbeds furthest away. By the sound of the smiles, moaning and laughter they are having a helluva good time. Bring a girl and join the party![/QUOTE]You can do what you want. This is a Nudist club and people that fuck outside either like being watched or enjoy so much fucking outside that the risk that somebody is watching is accounted for. If you want to watch, watch! Don't be afraid. Have fun. People that want privacy, should get a bloody room, and That's that.
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Went to Oase for the first time on Wednesday, not bad at all. 7/10.
Positives:
- Although LU not amazing, plenty of girls to choose from, will probably find 2/3 that you like.
- Had 2 decent sessions, no upsell.
- Good outdoor garden and relaxation area.
- Only 50 Euro entry on Wednesday.
Negatives.
-Club is in the middle of nowhere and need a train / taxi to get there, extra cost.
-Music too loud and club area a bit crowded.
-Non tute staff not very friendly and a bit rude.
-Food nothing special.
I prefer FKK Palace tbh; the club interior is better and looks wise the girls are more to my taste.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2185437] But most of the time couples are going to the sunbeds furthest away from the crowds by the pool. Their ambition is probably merely looking for a relaxed time, feeling free and enjoy doing it in the open. They may not necessarily be that interested in attention.
[/QUOTE]One might be interested to note, as regards those who might not want full attention of other viewers: the circular sunbeds (with adjustable shade awnings) located at the back right of the garden most distant from pool (in front of the parking area, actually) can be rotated to face any position, either towards the attention of others, or swung around to be semi or completely obscured from anybody's view.
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Was at Oase on Thursday. Had two punts:
First one was pretty poor, she was brunette, had a well sized body and fake lips. Got BBBJ and FK for 100 euro 1 hour though she wanted 150. I think she gave me a poor experience partly due to me bringing her down to 100, though I can't imagine her service being much better at 150. Started OK but got worse (50 half hour would of been the better option here), rushed me during round 2 and just lay there eyes closed at times.
I was planning to just leave without seeing someone else as two other girls I liked the look of were busy. Though I decided to stop and chat with one girl who told me she was new, can't remember the name but she had big tits and ass, dark hair and had a mole on her cheek. Looked OK but provided top service, plenty of FK, seriously good BJ till CIM, lots of ball play, RO and great attitude throughout. A good GFE which I struggle to find in FKK's.
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[QUOTE=MtVadose;2185608]Was at Oase on Thursday. Had two punts:
First one was pretty poor, she was brunette, had a well sized body and fake lips. Got BBBJ and FK for 100 euro 1 hour though she wanted 150. I think she gave me a poor experience partly due to me bringing her down to 100, though I can't imagine her service being much better at 150. Started OK but got worse (50 half hour would of been the better option here), rushed me during round 2 and just lay there eyes closed at times.
I was planning to just leave without seeing someone else as two other girls I liked the look of were busy. Though I decided to stop and chat with one girl who told me she was new, can't remember the name but she had big tits and ass, dark hair and had a mole on her cheek. Looked OK but provided top service, plenty of FK, seriously good BJ till CIM, lots of ball play, RO and great attitude throughout. A good GFE which I struggle to find in FKK's.[/QUOTE]Oase is strongly going down for more than 1 year, more than 10 girls already moved to Shark or other clubs. Very weak management unfriendly staff.
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[QUOTE=Slayer666;2185486]Went to Oase for the first time on Wednesday, not bad at all. 7/10.
Positives:
- Although LU not amazing, plenty of girls to choose from, will probably find 2/3 that you like.
- Had 2 decent sessions, no upsell.
- Good outdoor garden and relaxation area.
- Only 50 Euro entry on Wednesday.
Negatives.
-Club is in the middle of nowhere and need a train / taxi to get there, extra cost.
-Music too loud and club area a bit crowded.
-Non tute staff not very friendly and a bit rude..[/QUOTE]Staff in Oase is a real nightmare, they are rude, brutal unfriendly, reasons why I stopped to go there like many other senior German mongers, we are used to better, LU is also deteriorating very quickly.
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5/29 Visit.
Visited on 5/29 arrived around 4 pm. Probably 2. 5 girls for every guy. Was getting hounded constantly by girls thinking I was an FKK rookie attempting to up-sell me on crappy services. Almost left several times but found one that was not up-selling. Blonde Blue eyed Romanian about 5 foot 6. She gave a decent BJ outside and average sex only 50 Euro. Had some food, which was outside BBQ chicken breast sausages and french fries. It was ok, prefer when they have the custom made Pizzas which were not available. Most of the girls hung out, outside since it was so hot. I preferred this as you can sit and watch all the girls walk in and out in real light and without heals on seeing the true height and complexions. Next session was with a 5'4 Brunette from Bulgaria. Spoke no English and was hanging out with an ugly skinny blonde Bulgarian Girl. I was told it was only her second day working in the club and she had not done any rooms yet. (I always look for the brand new girls) She got a room key but was so new had to ask another girl to tell here where the room was. I took advantage of the opportunity and had my way with her her as she was clueless. Full GFE kissing, shoved cock down her throat, AO, cum shot her face. Was so good got hard again 5 minutes later then did another round blew cum her stomach.) 2 loads in less then 30 minutes. I gave her 200 Euro as it was excellent. I had one more session an hour later with a fat old 29 year old Romanian with glasses who wouldn't leave me alone, I mostly just wanted a massage. Massage was decent but couldn't cum from her BBJ. Went back on the floor looking for my Bulgarian again at 1 am she could not be found. Oh well. Every time I come to this place I get pissed off and want to leave due to all the up-selling but always find a great girl unexpectedly and leave happy. Anyone ever meet an Italian looking girl named Emily who worked here a few months ago?
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[QUOTE=Theo110;2187124]Visited on 5/29 arrived around 4 pm. Probably 2. 5 girls for every guy. Was getting hounded constantly by girls thinking I was an FKK rookie attempting to up-sell me on crappy services. Almost left several times but found one that was not up-selling. Blonde Blue eyed Romanian about 5 foot 6. She gave a decent BJ outside and average sex only 50 Euro. Had some food, which was outside BBQ chicken breast sausages and french fries. It was ok, prefer when they have the custom made Pizzas which were not available. Most of the girls hung out, outside since it was so hot. I preferred this as you can sit and watch all the girls walk in and out in real light and without heals on seeing the true height and complexions. Next session was with a 5'4 Brunette from Bulgaria. Spoke no English and was hanging out with an ugly skinny blonde Bulgarian Girl. I was told it was only her second day working in the club and she had not done any rooms yet. (I always look for the brand new girls) She got a room key but was so new had to ask another girl to tell here where the room was. I took advantage of the opportunity and had my way with her her as she was clueless. Full GFE kissing, shoved cock down her throat, AO, cum shot her face. Was so good got hard again 5 minutes later then did another round blew cum her stomach.) 2 loads in less then 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Congratulations to be able to exploit a poor new girl, I think you should be very proud.
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Another bust 5/31/18.
These women are viscous and untrust worthy. Had 2 walking around if I can use a credit card, fuck no. Lots of upselling, 30 minutes end up being 15 minutes.
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200 for 30 minutes is a bit much, even if you had AO. If you think you had your way with her, and then paid her 200 for half hour, I would think again. I know you did COF, but that means you paid a hundred for just AO.
I have paid extra for AO, but those were longer sessions. Which means that the extra is spread over a longer period.
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[QUOTE=ListerL;2185450]If I recall correctly yesterday. There was an Asian guy getting it on with 2 girls right next to the pool and he stopped mid-session and walked over to the bar to ask for drinks (with a boner and everything) before finishing with them in the sun beds further away. But I was drifting in and out of sleep so I might've been mistaken.[/QUOTE]Hehr, so it may just have been a wet dream?
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[QUOTE=MyTwoInches;2187238]200 for 30 minutes is a bit much, even if you had AO. If you think you had your way with her, and then paid her 200 for half hour, I would think again. I know you did COF, but that means you paid a hundred for just AO.
I have paid extra for AO, but those were longer sessions. Which means that the extra is spread over a longer period.[/QUOTE]I think it was rather decent of him to give her 200 Eur for the service he got especially as he could have gotten away with giving her less. The only problem is she, being new, will now expect similar recompense for future services rendered. Will she now be satisfied with a 50 E / 1/2 hour session?
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[QUOTE=Theo110;2187124] I had one more session an hour later with a fat old 29 year old Romanian with glasses who wouldn't leave me alone, I mostly just wanted a massage. [/QUOTE]Aren't you just proving that you really are a rookie, never mind being generous (I am OK with that), but taking a sympathy "fat old" as well because she wouldn't leave you alone. It is labelling yourself as "so nice you can be manipulated into anything". I think I know the one, most likely, since one in particular kept sleazing up to me (Miss Persistent I will call her). Maybe not quite ugliest in the club but not far away. Maybe not the same one (I don't recall the glasses. Perhaps your girl was much prettier than the one after me. E. g. Jenny might be over weight but seems quite nice). If the "fat old" Persistent paid me 200 for the half hour, I might have considered trying to do her. LOL Probably could not get it up though in that circumstance. I prefer to give off a semi "mean" vibe although may cause me to get some unexplained refusals. My Mrs. Is a lot better looking and sexier than at least 50% of the girls in the club (despite close to 40), so I can't lower my standard.
Perhaps you should have said that the girl was fat but appealing.
There are proper massage personnel much cheaper available in the club if you really have to have a massage (and looks don't matter for that). I never take that though. Massage is a waste of money for me, unless the girl is fucking hot (LOL).
Why waste money on girls that don't really turn you on? Far better to waste on hot girls that we just cannot leave alone, in my view. Like I will accept service levels not quite the best if she is fucking sexy, and just visually a huge turn on.
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[QUOTE=Nympholepsy;2187496]Perhaps you should have said that the girl was fat but appealing.[/QUOTE]I would say fat but appealing is more correct. She was cute and a little different looking than the other girls. Kind of looked like a slutty secretary. So I went with it. I find those types usually provide better service sometimes. Her BBBJ skills where good, I would have cum if I hadn't already had 4 sessions that day and I didn't notice her see-Section scar.
I don't care that much about money more so about the service level. I have spent over a month this year in FKKs. All the girls start to look the same after awhile. I look for other cues to where I can get something good.
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[QUOTE=Theo110;2187634]I don't care that much about money more so about the service level. I have spent over a month this year in FKKs..[/QUOTE]And in which ones have you had the best experiences with girls?
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Friday at Oase
Made my first visit to Oase this trip after 6 visits to Sharks. In Sharks I had no problem with 50 Eur hour sessions. In Oase things are a little different. In Sharks I avoided the hottest girls as I did in Oase but in Oase it goes like this with the ordinary girls me: 50 E hour; girl: yes but that is only for CBJ and CFS. For BBBJ and DATY you need to pay 100 Eur, it is the law. I decided not to waste time arguing but just said ok and moved on. I was determined to have a 50 Eur 1/2 hr session with a fuckable girl inclusive of BBBJ and DATY.
Girls in Oase are much more proactive than those in Sharks and unlike Sharks I was approached by many hot girls who did not agree to my terms of course. However, one of the hottest girls in the club asked if she could sit with me while I was chillin. We chatted about various things and eventually we discussed the matter at hand. 50 E 1/2 hr FS, BBBJ, DATY was turned down but she did agree to 100 E. When I said for 1 hour she replied 'if you want'. Duh, off to the zimmer we went. Her performance turned out to be pretty good and I got DFK in the bargain. I DATied her and got BBBJ for the first hour and the second was spent exploring various positions in FS. An hour well spent.
While having dinner I chatted with a German dude possibly in his mid to late 60's, a couple years older than I am, who said he had been going to FKK's for the past 30 years (I did not know FKK's were around for so long, I thought they came into being in the late 90's). Anyhoo, he said that he is never upsold and has only 50 Eur 1/2 hour sessions at Oase with all the trimmings with the occasional 100 E, 1 hour session. He said that he occasionally gets poor service which is usually from the very young hot providers but generally he gets good service. He actually pointed out to me a small thin young Romanian who gave him poor service (she looked younger than 18). He said he still enjoyed the encounter as she was so young with a fresh body and pert tits. I find that so different from me as I fail to enjoy a session if the performance is bad no matter how hot the body.
For my next session I was determined to go with a doable girl for a half hour for not more than 50 Eur. It took me longer to get than my first session but it happened with Eliza from Spain. Thoroughly enjoyed my hour with her.
I liked the idea of the girls dancing on the bar counter. It was an enjoyable sight to behold 6 Romanians gyrating 'in your face'.
Overall, a 50 E 1/2 hour session is much more difficult for me to get at Oase than in Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2187813]While having dinner I chatted with a German dude possibly in his mid to late 60's, a couple years older than I am, who said he had been going to FKK's for the past 30 years (I did not know FKK's were around for so long, I thought they came into being in the late 90's). Anyhoo, he said that he is never upsold and has only 50 Eur 1/2 hour sessions at Oase with all the trimmings with the occasional 100 E, 1 hour session. He said that he occasionally gets poor service which is usually from the very young hot providers but generally he gets good service. He actually pointed out to me a small thin young Romanian who gave him poor service (she looked younger than 18). He said he still enjoyed the encounter as she was so young with a fresh body and pert tits. I find that so different from me as I fail to enjoy a session if the performance is bad no matter how hot the body.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] 30 years in FKKs in Germany seems a bit exaggerated, majority of them came around in the late 90's, so about 20 years ago. The "boom" started with Atlantis being a big hype until it closed in 2004. Sudfass must have been the first on in 1981, then Schieferhof in 1985 or so, Dietzbach in 1996 and Oase opened 1998 ARAIR. LOL.
The small thin Romanian was probably Amanda. Try to avoid her, she specialized in Asians with all the consequences that has for service levels.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2187813]he had been going to FKK's for the past 30 years (I did not know FKK's were around for so long, I thought they came into being in the late 90's).[/QUOTE]Bernd's, the first FKK club, opened in mid 80's; and still going strong with good service for 50 euros with no upselling. Over the years, I have been there 50-60 times with zero unsatisfactory sessions. Been to Oase also about 50-60 times, with about 20% unsatisfactory sessions.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2187813]Made my first visit to Oase this trip after 6 visits to Sharks. In Sharks I had no problem with 50 Eur hour sessions. In Oase things are a little different. In Sharks I avoided the hottest girls as I did in Oase but in Oase it goes like this with the ordinary girls me: 50 E hour; girl: yes but that is only for CBJ and CFS. For BBBJ and DATY you need to pay 100 Eur, it is the law. I decided not to waste time arguing but just said ok and moved on. I was determined to have a 50 Eur 1/2 hr session with a fuckable girl inclusive of BBBJ and DATY.
Girls in Oase are much more proactive than those in Sharks and unlike Sharks I was approached by many hot girls who did not agree to my terms of course. However, one of the hottest girls in the club asked if she could sit with me while I was chillin. We chatted about various things and eventually we discussed the matter at hand. 50 E 1/2 hr FS, BBBJ, DATY was turned down but she did agree to 100 E. When I said for 1 hour she replied 'if you want'. Duh, off to the zimmer we went. Her performance turned out to be pretty good and I got DFK in the bargain. I DATied her and got BBBJ for the first hour and the second was spent exploring various positions in FS. An hour well spent..[/QUOTE]I know I m different, but You prefer to go with second choice girls for look? At Oase or Sharks, it s difficult for me to find girls who are pretty enough I want to pay for. I would say my minimum standard is Adela Oase when she takes care of her look, Katrin. Bu is not pretty face and sensual enough for me. All girls don t worth same rate for me, I hate upselling and to speak about money, why I stopped my room with Mady ex History Basel Liestal, but I prefer to enjoy with a beauty for 100 for 1 hour or quite often for longer time when I really enjoy to taste her. Less than 10% of my first time rooms are for only 30 mn, really not my standard to enjoy sex like at home. I prefer to have less rooms, but quality. I don t pay for looks I would not go for free, seeing them in streets. I need beauty in my eyes, to enjoy sex, sexual performances are not enough.
Only my subjective tastes of course.
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Was there last Thursday.
[quote=tanktank123;2187830]bernd's, the first fkk club, opened in mid 80's; and still going strong with good service for 50 euros with no upselling. Over the years, i have been there 50-60 times with zero unsatisfactory sessions. Been to oase also about 50-60 times, with about 20% unsatisfactory sessions.[/quote]All upsell.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2187859]I know I m different, but You prefer to go with second choice girls for look? At Oase or Sharks, it s difficult for me to find girls who are pretty enough I want to pay for. I would say my minimum standard is Adela Oase when she takes care of her look, Katrin. Bu is not pretty face and sensual enough for me. All girls don t worth same rate for me, I hate upselling and to speak about money, why I stopped my room with Mady ex History Basel Liestal, but I prefer to enjoy with a beauty for 100 for 1 hour or quite often for longer time when I really enjoy to taste her. Less than 10% of my first time rooms are for only 30 mn, really not my standard to enjoy sex like at home. I prefer to have less rooms, but quality. I don t pay for looks I would not go for free, seeing them in streets. I need beauty in my eyes, to enjoy sex, sexual performances are not enough.
Only my subjective tastes of course.[/QUOTE]I don't know what you mean by second choice girls for looks. I did not name the hot girl I sessioned for 1 hour. How would you know she is a second choice girl? By any standards she was gorgeous. I am extremely picky when it comes to repeating with a provider. She must be beautiful by my standards, give good service and most importantly GENUINELY GFE. Genuine GFE, not fake GFE, is what enamours me to a girl. In all my FKK exploits I have come across no more than 4 such girls who met my repeat standards. One of those, Megan (Sharks), you shipped off to Globe. The other 3 were at Oase prior to 2012. It could very well mean that I could meet such a provider again but it will begin with a 50 Eur half hour session as it did with Megan. If she fits the bill then the sky is the limit for her in future rooms. Depending on the girl what was first a half hour tryst could subsequently be a 3 hour session!
However, you are correct, we are different. I love sex so I go with many girls who are ordinary. I still enjoy sex with ordinary looking girls. In other words I like me some strange. I really enjoy banging girls who I have not banged before. That's just the way I am and why I'm in this hobby. For me to repeat a girl she has to be exceptional. One must also remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder which takes me to Katrina, Bu. I saw her last year and again yesterday. I have not sessioned her to date. I approached her last year and she refused me a 50 E romp and countered with a 100 Eur one hour session; however, I found her so cold and matter of fact that I declined. I find her features spectacular. Legs that go on forever and a very interesting face like that of a femme fatale in a film noir. I probably would do her just for the experience.
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I think your style of mongering is very healthy and is similar to mine, although I repeat much more frequently than your 4 or so repeats. Enjoying universally agreed upon top beauties is great but also very limiting. Expanding your taste to other girls keeps the hobby healthy. After all, beauty comes in all forms. Sometimes a girl doesn't have to be overall beautiful but if she has a great ass and a beautiful face, that makes her enjoyable. Perhaps the girl has just great tits and nice legs or some other combination of attractive features, then she is worth the room, so long as her service is acceptable of course.
Besides taste in girls, expanding the way you fuck also keeps the hobby healthy. Romancing and foreplay is only one nice game. But wild animal fucking also has it's merits. Sometimes letting the girl run the show is also very fun. Throw in some fuck doll optic fucks for 50 euro is also not a bad idea. Perhaps a 50 euro poolside blowjob? I think guys who stick to their strict expectations with one particular program are really restricting themselves from fully enjoying this hobby.
(I feel ya on shipping Megan off. It's unfortunate for other mongers.).
[QUOTE=Turgid;2187942]I don't know what you mean by second choice girls for looks. I did not name the hot girl I sessioned for 1 hour. How would you know she is a second choice girl? By any standards she was gorgeous. I am extremely picky when it comes to repeating with a provider. She must be beautiful by my standards, give good service and most importantly GENUINELY GFE. Genuine GFE, not fake GFE, is what enamours me to a girl. In all my FKK exploits I have come across no more than 4 such girls who met my repeat standards. One of those, Megan (Sharks), you shipped off to Globe. The other 3 were at Oase prior to 2012. It could very well mean that I could meet such a provider again but it will begin with a 50 Eur half hour session as it did with Megan. If she fits the bill then the sky is the limit for her in future rooms. Depending on the girl what was first a half hour tryst could subsequently be a 3 hour session!.[/QUOTE]
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Thursday's at Oase.
The Oase site states that Thursday is lingerie day. What percentage of girls take part on average? Do they just wear stockings mostly or do they cover up their pussy and tits as well? Part of the attraction is seeing the girls naked so with a visit taking place this coming Thursday I am keen to find out what I can expect.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2187942] Katrina, Bu. I saw her last year and again yesterday. I have not sessioned her to date. I approached her last year and she refused me a 50 E romp and countered with a 100 Eur one hour session; however, I found her so cold and matter of fact that I declined. I find her features spectacular. Legs that go on forever and a very interesting face like that of a femme fatale in a film noir. I probably would do her just for the experience.[/QUOTE]And that would be a good decision. I've had 3 sessions with her now. Siri is not entirely wrong. She is not facially beautiful. But she is facially, and bodily very striking indeed. When I get to an FKK (normally for me between 5-7 pm) I never ever take a girl in the first hour. I like to get a nice long shower, a drink, wander around the club seeing what girls are about. Maybe sit outside on a nice day, just take in the atmosphere and visuals. The first time I saw Katrina in Oase I'the been in the club less than 10 minutes and asked her to the room with no interview just because I could not believe she wouldn't be taken for the whole night. I told her in the room that I would be unlikely to go to 1 hour in a first session but I like long sessions and maybe later if our chemistry was right.
It was ok but she is slow to warm up. We did an ok 30 minutes, and I could not get out of my head how strong her vaginal muscles are. It is like a vice and she can make it strong or weak with contractions and I found myself nearly popping after 5 minutes of it. Unusual for me.
Didn't repeat that night with her.
Returned home from Germany and genuinely thought about her daily for 3 weeks so returned.
When I approached her she was quite cold. Her demeanour is like that until you get to know her.
I told her I'the returned to the Club hoping to see her and I wanted 2 hours with her. Perhaps not surprisingly this peaked her interest and the coldness disappeared. Off we went to one of the big two room (27 and 28) on the same level as the jacuzzi to the left before the exit door to the gardens.
Again the vice like vagina got to work and again I was nearly popping after 5 minutes. I told her that whilst I loved it and would eventually like to cum like this, if she didn't want to finish our 2 hours with only a 30 min session she needed to get less energetic about it. Had 2 amazing hours with her, did virtually everything and anything and she will tell you "I have no boundaries" and that was very true. Her cold demeanour softened. We talked, laughed, had great sex and her body is just truly amazing.
I've repeated once since for 90 minutes and had another fantastic session. She is dominant. Not in a BDSM way. Just her general attitude. Her reverse cowgirl is her signature position. On this 90 min repeat I'the already had 2 pops in the day (she arrived late and I'the been disappointed she wasn't there). I told her that I haven't had 3 pops in one day for probably 10 years. She told me not to worry and it will happen. I doubt another girl in the place would have gotten me there. Less than 10 minutes of reverse cowgirl and her keggel-exercised pussy and I was asking her to delay!
She might not be facially the most stunning girl, nor the most engaging in terms of personality, but to find such a striking woman, with an amazingly in proportion tanned body, who is a complete expert in the bedroom, and with a vice like grip. Is something rare indeed and I'the say that for anyone attending Oase. Don't pass up the chance to room with this Amazonian woman. Who takes control of you from the moment you enter the room until the moment you leave it. But beware. That vice grip can have you out of there in no time. Especially in reverse cowgirl. Enjoy her.
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[QUOTE=Theo110;2187634]I would say fat but appealing is more correct. She was cute and a little different looking than the other girls. Kind of looked like a slutty secretary. So I went with it. I find those types usually provide better service sometimes. Her BBBJ skills where good, I would have cum if I hadn't already had 4 sessions that day and I didn't notice her see-Section scar.
I don't care that much about money more so about the service level. I have spent over a month this year in FKKs. All the girls start to look the same after awhile. I look for other cues to where I can get something good.[/QUOTE]Sound reasoning. It is better to pay 100 for good service and an hour than to pay 50 for bad service. In the latter, you have wasted 50 and time.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2187859]I know I m different, but You prefer to go with second choice girls for look? At Oase or Sharks, it s difficult for me to find girls who are pretty enough I want to pay for. I would say my minimum standard is Adela Oase when she takes care of her look, Katrin. Bu is not pretty face and sensual enough for me. All girls don t worth same rate for me, I hate upselling and to speak about money, why I stopped my room with Mady ex History Basel Liestal, but I prefer to enjoy with a beauty for 100 for 1 hour or quite often for longer time when I really enjoy to taste her. Less than 10% of my first time rooms are for only 30 mn, really not my standard to enjoy sex like at home. I prefer to have less rooms, but quality. I don t pay for looks I would not go for free, seeing them in streets. I need beauty in my eyes, to enjoy sex, sexual performances are not enough.
Only my subjective tastes of course.[/QUOTE]Visited Shark last Saturday and LU was a nightmare, many girls but most of them really not nice, fresh, or young, overall experience very bad left without any session.
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To the girl who specialises in keeping my balls (and wallet) drained.
My god I fucking love her.
So good that the last few visits to FKK Oase have been exclusively with her (she knows this, and relishes this, and I've gotten a bit of a tantrum "whatever, you're probably waiting for that working girl", from another girl who unsuccessfully tried to hit on me).
She: long dark hair, fishnets (she only ever wears this), dark eyes, couple of moles on her face, still very pretty with a great body (about C-cup tits), looks fairly young.
Arrives to work at 1 pm and leaves at 5 am, she says that discipline with the timings and strong work ethic is key to making money in this profession.
Will be going back to Romania in mid June and returning in mid September, will stay through winter.
She loves making money! (excitedly told me she made over 1000 Eur before Corpus Christi PH).
Most likely a non-smoker (never seen her smoke and she doesn't smell, and comments that she really hates the smell).
No upselling (just asks you what you want in the room and goes with it).
Aggressive with the pre-sales (will get on your lap and start dirty talking you, grabbing your dick and shit).
High service levels even at 50 EUR rates (BBBJ, fairly rough and energetic sex) - once she told me she fucked 4 times in between our sessions, and I asked her if she was tired, to which she said "you don't know what is tired, tired is at 2 am when you're sore and your body tells you you don't want to go on but you have to. ".
I've been going to FKKs and brothels in Germany (and in Asia) for awhile and the service level just blew me away. My anus and balls have been spit-shined to a mirror finish after these few sessions with her (she even pulled my thighs over her shoulders so she could access my butthole better). My cock has been spat on so often it's starting to think it did something shameful. She even started to rub her own clit during the fucking to get herself off. She clutches me close during the riding and looks at herself in the mirror fucking. She has an uncanny ability to independently move each of her ass cheeks and she likes showing that off.
I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but I'm a little heartbroken (or balls-broken) that I won't be seeing her until September. She even offered to trade numbers so we could text while she's away but given that she actually lives a few blocks away from me in BH and I'm here for work, that might be a bad idea.
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[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2187876]All upsell.[/QUOTE]Where upselling? At Bernds with some ugly girls? Or Oase with many little girls? Except Mady, Katrin. Bu, Adela and the blond looking a bit like Roxana sister.
But I had a 1 hour for 100 in late night with Vera who is the prettiest face for my eyes and she was really lovely, just not woman enough for me. After my room with Vera, Adela became smiling.
At Westside Frauenfeld close to German border, can have a real beauty who was top GFE for me, for about 85 €/30 mn. Same at History in Basel Liestal, or club Swiss in Dietikon close to Zurich, or at SexPark close to Aarau, with high GFE level.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2187942]I don't know what you mean by second choice girls for looks. I did not name the hot girl I sessioned for 1 hour. How would you know she is a second choice girl? By any standards she was gorgeous. I am extremely picky when it comes to repeating with a provider. She must be beautiful by my standards, give good service and most importantly GENUINELY GFE. Genuine GFE, not fake GFE, is what enamours me to a girl. In all my FKK exploits I have come across no more than 4 such girls who met my repeat standards. One of those, Megan (Sharks), you shipped off to Globe. The other 3 were at Oase prior to 2012. It could very well mean that I could meet such a provider again but it will begin with a 50 Eur half hour session as it did with Megan..[/QUOTE]Sorry if I didn't understand well your words, but you wrote you avoided the hottest, meaning for me You didn't go with the prettiest, when I only want to pay for the prettiest, like so low level in bed Bia. Ro at LR yesterday who could never work at Globe like I read on this forum, but a real beauty like another real Romanian beauty I found at PSR where I missed chocolate on pancakes, and I don't pay for GND, meaning girls you don't even give a look at in the street.
I didn't write Katrin. Bu has ugly face, I agree she is one of the most impressive look at Oase, but her face even beautiful eyes, behavior even she is.
Smiling and lack of sensuality didn't make me run to repeat with her even I think she really wanted to attract me because of slow business.
About Megan, I never forced her to come to me as soon she saw me, to feel a bit woman. I didn't drive her to Globe, but when you try to know a bit girls You like, not just fucking pieces of meat, then you know she didn't like what became Sharks business. I advised her to go to Sharks rather than Palace, so I also advised her for Globe and she seems to be happy for her new business, far from everything for only 50, she didn't like. My present to thank and take care of her, since the little Romanian girl at Mainhattan.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2188192]Sorry if I didn't understand well your words, but you wrote you avoided the hottest, meaning for me You didn't go with the prettiest, when I only want to pay for the prettiest, like so low level in bed Bia. Ro at LR yesterday who could never work at Globe like I read on this forum, but a real beauty like another real Romanian beauty I found at PSR where I missed chocolate on pancakes, and I don't pay for GND, meaning girls you don't even give a look at in the street.
I didn't write Katrin. Bu has ugly face, I agree she is one of the most impressive look at Oase, but her face even beautiful eyes, behavior even she is.
Smiling and lack of sensuality didn't make me run to repeat with her even I think she really wanted to attract me because of slow business.
About Megan, I never forced her to come to me as soon she saw me, to feel a bit woman. I didn't drive her to Globe, but when you try to know a bit girls You like, not just fucking pieces of meat, then you know she didn't like what became Sharks business. I advised her to go to Sharks rather than Palace, so I also advised her for Globe and she seems to be happy for her new business, far from everything for only 50, she didn't like. My present to thank and take care of her, since the little Romanian girl at Mainhattan.[/QUOTE]My experience so far this trip is that in Sharks none of the ordinary looking girls upsell and are willing to go for 50 Eur rooms. The hottest girls in Sharks do not approach me, possibly word gets around. In Oase many girls, hot or not, approach me, and like all punters I like lookers but refuse to pay more than 50 Eur for a half hour session or 100 for an hour. I did pay 100/ hr for one of the best lookers in Oase on Friday and will continue to do so; but, unlike you, I will also go for girls who may not be very prepossessing for 50 Eur of course.
On another note I noticed that unlike Sharks many girls in Oase cover themselves with towels. I totally refuse to entertain any provider in an FKK who covers her assets; that tends to send a message that they are hiding defects. However, that is not always the case as occasionally a removal of the towel reveals a delightful bod. I have decided, though, to only chat with girls who are totally nude.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2188308]My experience so far this trip is that in Sharks none of the ordinary looking girls upsell and are willing to go for 50 Eur rooms. The hottest girls in Sharks do not approach me, possibly word gets around. In Oase many girls, hot or not, approach me, and like all punters I like lookers but refuse to pay more than 50 Eur for a half hour session or 100 for an hour. I did pay 100/ hr for one of the best lookers in Oase on Friday and will continue to do so; but, unlike you, I will also go for girls who may not be very prepossessing for 50 Eur of course.
On another note I noticed that unlike Sharks many girls in Oase cover themselves with towels. I totally refuse to entertain any provider in an FKK who covers her assets; that tends to send a message that they are hiding defects. However, that is not always the case as occasionally a removal of the towel reveals a delightful bod. I have decided, though, to only chat with girls who are totally nude.[/QUOTE]I chat with no girl, it is a waste of time and can not give you any clue about the coming session, I go to the room and see there what happen, worst scenario is a lost of 50 euro.
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ListerL
[QUOTE=ListerL;2188149]My god I fucking love her.
So good that the last few visits to FKK Oase have been exclusively with her (she knows this, and relishes this, and I've gotten a bit of a tantrum "whatever, you're probably waiting for that working girl", from another girl who unsuccessfully tried to hit on me).
She: long dark hair, fishnets (she only ever wears this), dark eyes, couple of moles on her face, still very pretty with a great body (about C-cup tits), looks fairly young.
Arrives to work at 1 pm and leaves at 5 am, she says that discipline with the timings and strong work ethic is key to making money in this profession.
Will be going back to Romania in mid June and returning in mid September, will stay through winter.
She loves making money! (excitedly told me she made over 1000 Eur before Corpus Christi PH).
Most likely a non-smoker (never seen her smoke and she doesn't smell, and comments that she really hates the smell).
No upselling (just asks you what you want in the room and goes with it)..[/QUOTE]Thanks for a great description of this girl. A name would be even better! Even if in private message! The mole made me think is she very tall and slim with glasses?
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Missing non-RO providers.
Increasing reliance on only one nationality facilitates collusion between service providers to find ways to get more. With a basic 50, you get unenthusiastic providers wishing to sell additional services even during the action. Things may get better with extra cash, but this undermines the competitiveness of the FKK model when it morphs into a Romanian co-op.
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[QUOTE=ListerL;2188149]My god I fucking love her.
So good that the last few visits to FKK Oase have been exclusively with her (she knows this, and relishes this, and I've gotten a bit of a tantrum "whatever, you're probably waiting for that working girl", from another girl who unsuccessfully tried to hit on me).
She: long dark hair, fishnets (she only ever wears this), dark eyes, couple of moles on her face, still very pretty with a great body (about C-cup tits), looks fairly young.
Arrives to work at 1 pm and leaves at 5 am, she says that discipline with the timings and strong work ethic is key to making money in this profession..[/QUOTE]I don t believe that she will take 3 months holidays, nowadays only very few girls can do that, another problem is also to explain in Romania why you stay so long home, only prostitutes can do this and most of the girls will never tell that they are prostitutes.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2188308]My experience so far this trip is that in Sharks none of the ordinary looking girls upsell and are willing to go for 50 Eur rooms. The hottest girls in Sharks do not approach me, possibly word gets around. In Oase many girls, hot or not, approach me, and like all punters I like lookers but refuse to pay more than 50 Eur for a half hour session or 100 for an hour. I did pay 100/ hr for one of the best lookers in Oase on Friday and will continue to do so; but, unlike you, I will also go for girls who may not be very prepossessing for 50 Eur of course.
On another note I noticed that unlike Sharks many girls in Oase cover themselves with towels. I totally refuse to entertain any provider in an FKK who covers her assets; that tends to send a message that they are hiding defects. However, that is not always the case as occasionally a removal of the towel reveals a delightful bod. I have decided, though, to only chat with girls who are totally nude.[/QUOTE]I didn't see many beauties on this Sunday at Sharks. Really average casting. Fortunately for me, Debi smiled to me, so we started to chat and keep on in French she speaks very well, and what a pleasure to have a real charming woman with classy look, no tattoo, no piercing, all natural, to speak French in bed, to feel she really wants to give you back and gives you pleasure. We didn't speak about money, it was just fluent, club rate and smiles after.
Only Elen was really sexy with her pussy care, even not a exceptional face.
Can also be enjoyable when you can t speak same language than the girl, but You have sex only with smiles, caresses, using hands, like with Mersi. Hu. At least, no lies.
On my last visits on March and April, Oase casting was also quite average.
Unfortunately, same average castings in most of German clubs, at the moment, compare to Globe on April which had great casting and some top GFE. After more than 1000 rooms, some Globe girls met, surprise me for how they can give You, making You feel they are in love with You, great illusion in bed, less when You see public sex.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2188350]Thanks for a great description of this girl. A name would be even better! Even if in private message! The mole made me think is she very tall and slim with glasses?[/QUOTE]I actually had a session with the girl you're talking about (by tall, I mean very tall, like, 1.8 m, and very skinny), and she was shit. Sometimes she comes up to me and gripes about customers but she sucks.
About the girl's name, she told me she's Lisa but I might be wrong (frankly, I just need something to shout in the room when things are going well), she could've told me any name she wanted haha, just like how she told me she's from Italy when we first met but now told me she's going home to Romania for holidays.
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[QUOTE=ListerL;2188149]She: long dark hair, fishnets (she only ever wears this), dark eyes, couple of moles on her face, still very pretty with a great body (about C-cup tits).[/QUOTE]If she is very small and slim like 40 Kg, and very pretty and hot, then fits the description of Luana (ex Globe) who wears fishnets (and did not see her without them except on the bed). Maybe not quite see cups in case of Luana.
She kissed good in a 1 hour booking, but wanted 50 extra to put the fingers in deep. LOL.
I have other more regular girls who don't upsell me, but I always spend more than a 50.
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[QUOTE=Telnitz;2188482]Increasing reliance on only one nationality facilitates collusion between service providers to find ways to get more. With a basic 50, you get unenthusiastic providers wishing to sell additional services even during the action. Things may get better with extra cash, but this undermines the competitiveness of the FKK model when it morphs into a Romanian co-op.[/QUOTE]I like Romanians very much but I also like variety. Where are the Germans? I met 2 providers on Friday who told me they were from Russia. One was a redhead. I have had only good experiences with Russians at FKKs; however, for some reason I got a bad vibe and did not bite.
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[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2188350]Thanks for a great description of this girl. A name would be even better! Even if in private message! The mole made me think is she very tall and slim with glasses?[/QUOTE]I had the same thought, only I do not find her impressive.
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Celina / Thai.
There used to a Thai girl who worked here a few years ago by the name of Celina / Selina. She speaks perfect German, she told me she was born in Thailand but was raised in Germany. She is petite and has some tattoos on her upper body. Is she still here?
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[QUOTE=SF49U;2189714]There used to a Thai girl who worked here a few years ago by the name of Celina / Selina. She speaks perfect German, she told me she was born in Thailand but was raised in Germany. She is petite and has some tattoos on her upper body. Is she still here?[/QUOTE]I don't know her name. But there is a petite girl with your description there. She has been there for at least 2 yrs. Why go to Europe for Asian girl? Go to the source. Thailand is not that far away from The States.
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Road blocks
Interesting that the police set up road blocks on all roads leading to Oase one day this week, checking IDs. I didn't get stopped as they didn't seem to be stopping tourists on their way to the fun house, but cars with girls on their way to work seemed to get stopped for ID check. Interesting that police don't go inside Oase for this but instead set up road blocks around Oase instead.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2189947]Interesting that the police set up road blocks on all roads leading to Oase one day this week, checking IDs. I didn't get stopped as they didn't seem to be stopping tourists on their way to the fun house, but cars with girls on their way to work seemed to get stopped for ID check. Interesting that police don't go inside Oase for this but instead set up road blocks around Oase instead.[/QUOTE]It is more than time that they start those kind of checking, so many cars with Romanian plates bringing every day the girls to the clubs. If the papers are not fake I am afraid that the police will not have any means to go deeper in their investigations.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2189947]Interesting that the police set up road blocks on all roads leading to Oase one day this week, checking IDs. I didn't get stopped as they didn't seem to be stopping tourists on their way to the fun house, but cars with girls on their way to work seemed to get stopped for ID check. Interesting that police don't go inside Oase for this but instead set up road blocks around Oase instead.[/QUOTE]Interesting observation, probably didn't want to disrupt the club's business.
Hope no one we liked got hauled off.
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[QUOTE=SF49U;2189714]There used to a Thai girl who worked here a few years ago by the name of Celina / Selina. She speaks perfect German, she told me she was born in Thailand but was raised in Germany. She is petite and has some tattoos on her upper body. Is she still here?[/QUOTE]Not that many years ago, she was in Oase for a relatively short time, and I believe came from Mainhatten. If by "petitie" you mean short, okay, but not really slim I thought. She did not speak Thai very well (hardly at all), having left there so young, so not very Thai in character, more German. Long gone now.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2190195]Not that many years ago, she was in Oase for a relatively short time, and I believe came from Mainhatten. If by "petitie" you mean short, okay, but not really slim I thought. She did not speak Thai very well (hardly at all), having left there so young, so not very Thai in character, more German. Long gone now.[/QUOTE]Was at Artemis last year fro a short time.
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Taxis From Oase
I have noticed that taxi drivers are increasingly reluctant to take punters from Oase to Friedrichsdorf station. Recently a driver's meter read 13 Eur at the end of the trip. In my 15 odd years of going to Oase including 2 days before, plying the same route, I have never been charged more than 10.70 Eur nor less than around 9. 50 Eur, but 10 Eur 99% of the time. I called out his attempted rip-off and we went at it for close to 10 minutes after which he accepted 10 Eur. The issue was not the 3 Eur but, as in every rip-off, not wanting to be the subject of someone's smug thoughts of me as a sucker.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2190467]I have noticed that taxi drivers are increasingly reluctant to take punters from Oase to Friedrichsdorf station. Recently a driver's meter read 13 Eur at the end of the trip. In my 15 odd years of going to Oase including 2 days before, plying the same route, I have never been charged more than 10.70 Eur nor less than around 9. 50 Eur, but 10 Eur 99% of the time. I called out his attempted rip-off and we went at it for close to 10 minutes after which he accepted 10 Eur. The issue was not the 3 Eur but, as in every rip-off, not wanting to be the subject of someone's smug thoughts of me as a sucker.[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, how did he rack up the extra 3 euros? I mean mechanically. Do you think his meter had been tampered with, or did he take an unusual route, or something else?
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2190539]Just out of curiosity, how did he rack up the extra 3 euros? I mean mechanically. Do you think his meter had been tampered with, or did he take an unusual route, or something else ?[/QUOTE]I don't know much about the workings of these meters to answer your question but as I stated he took the same route. If the fare increased between the time of my going to Oase and returning therefrom I owe him more than an apology.
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Taxis in Bad Homburg
Another thing to keep in mind is that the meter has a bit higher night rate. This will result in a higher charge for the same route when traveling late at night.
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Taxis originating from Frankfurt
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2190577]Another thing to keep in mind is that the meter has a bit higher night rate. This will result in a higher charge for the same route when traveling late at night.[/QUOTE]There is another possibility. While the fare for local taxis is 10 euros, taxis from some companies based in Frankfurt have a significantly higher rate, and I have had to pay almost 13 euros should I happen to have to board one of these at night. Unfortunately, late at night, these Frankfurt taxis appear more frequently as they bring tourists in from Frankfurt.
Whenever I see a taxi with a Frankfurt address, I would ask for a fixed price at 10 euros first. Invariably, he would counter-propose to drive me to Frankfurt at a 'special price', and I would say no and walk out to the entrance to the driveway to find a local taxi. No problem with doing this as the local drivers do not like the Frankfurt intruders.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2190662]Whenever I see a taxi with a Frankfurt address, I would ask for a fixed price at 10 euros first.[/QUOTE]Can you negotiate the price before? I did this once and he told me 'Whatever the meter says'.
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Recent visits to Oase and Sharks.
So I spent about a week at Oase and 1 day at Sharks. I've been to both places many many times. What makes the difference at any of these clubs is finding a girl to your tastes. That said, it is getting harder and harder to deal with the attitudes of so many of the girls, particularly the Romanians which is about 95% of the girls. Many girls will provide at best an indifferent service if you pay 50 Euros 'only' and then after that, pretty much ignore you forever after. At both clubs, upselling is much too common and annoying.
Though I was in Frankfurt for a week, I only spent 1 day at Sharks since I had a terrible experience with one of the prettier girls there--a very thin, flat chested but very pretty Romanian, possibly gypsy gal. She demanded that I not look at my watch and when she thought I did, became very angry. I ended the session right there, didn't 'finish', and gave her 50 euros to leave me alone. A number of girls will give you some kind of story (my house was taken from me, my mother is having an operation, etc).
That said, many of the girls at both places are still lovely, though I'd say the proportion of real beauties is going down. I think more and more Romanians are descending on the clubs and basically are out to get as much money as possible from you as quickly as they can. Some clearly would rather rip you off in one way or another than provide a decent service.
Since I've been doing to these clubs for years, I can say without question that this ugly attitude is very common among Romanians- a fact that no doubt has been noted many times before on this board. Poles, Bulgarians, Russians, Estonians and more are much more likely to give a decent experience. Go ahead, call me a racist, whatever, facts are facts.
Can anyone recommend any clubs- perhaps near Koln or Dusseldorf- that have more EE type girls and fewer Romanians? Much appreciated if so.
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Taxi Fare
In my 15 odd years of going to and from Oase I have never been charged more than around 10.70 Eur to or from Friedrichsdorf whether day or night. If I do not get a taxi at the entrance to the club I walk to the entrance to the driveway as I did on my last trip. It is not that I am impecunious, it is just that I believe in the prudent expenditure of finances. I would never take a taxi from Oase to Frankfurt when there is a perfectly reliable, safe and cheaper option. I would do the same even if I was a billionaire. I am totally apathetic regarding punters taxiing from Oase to Frankfurt as I am about dudes doing 250 Eur half hour sessions.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2190777]I would do the same even if I was a billionaire. [/QUOTE]If I were a billionaire, I wouldn't even be thinking whether or not I should be haggling with taxi drivers at Oase, as instead I would be having Bunga Bunga parties in my own FKK villa!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2190549]I don't know much about the workings of these meters to answer your question but as I stated he took the same route. If the fare increased between the time of my going to Oase and returning therefrom I owe him more than an apology.[/QUOTE]Happened to me as well. Fare didn't increase, but taxi drivers are looking to hit the Jackpot rides to Frankfurt and when they don't had reactions like: I can't take you, anger and the: my meter doesn't work and at the end inflated fares (but when I say OK, give me a receipt and you driver details and I will verify this with you station, they back off) and when they do use the meter and want to cheat, they take a longer way back. However, have a conversation with the station manager (older guy with glasses) and told him these experiences I think 3-4 months ago and he got quite upset and said he will talk with drivers and I didn't have issues since then.
But in short, some drivers can be real aholes. You need to ask for a receipt and their details and say you contact the boss or the station and then they back off.
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Taxis and Romanians.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2190662]There is another possibility. While the fare for local taxis is 10 euros, taxis from some companies based in Frankfurt have a significantly higher rate, and I have had to pay almost 13 euros should I happen to have to board one of these at night. Unfortunately, late at night, these Frankfurt taxis appear more frequently as they bring tourists in from Frankfurt.
Whenever I see a taxi with a Frankfurt address, I would ask for a fixed price at 10 euros first. Invariably, he would counter-propose to drive me to Frankfurt at a 'special price', and I would say no and walk out to the entrance to the driveway to find a local taxi. No problem with doing this as the local drivers do not like the Frankfurt intruders.[/QUOTE]I have had one taxi in about 45 different trips to and from Friedrichsdorf Bahnhof charge me more than 10 Euros. And this was a Frankfurt taxi, a large Mercedes. I now confirm by saying, "Oase, diese ist zehn Euro?" I agree with the punter who said he would never go to the club any other way than by train and taxi. The Tageskarte (day ticket) for Frankfurt is now so cheap (I think 4. 65 E) nothing else makes sense unless you are coming and going late at night. My transport cost are now less than 25 Euros for the round trip. Add about ten euros to that from the airport. Why spend so much extra for a taxi from Frankfurt?
The last trip I became friendly with several of the Pakistani drivers. And strangely I also have a good relationship with the one cute receptionist at the club. She calls me a cab if one is not outside.
As for the guy lamenting the lack of non-Romanians, my favorite girl has long told me that no matter where the girl tells you she is from, they are pretty much all Romanians. At least at Oase. I would think this also holds true at most FKK's. Of course there are exceptions, such as Asians and black girls.
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[QUOTE=UppstateMann;2190943]I have had one taxi in about 45 different trips to and from Friedrichsdorf Bahnhof charge me more than 10 Euros. [/QUOTE]I used to use public transport in my early trips to Frankfurt, but then I realized that with car rentals being so cheap in Frankfurt, it always made sense to just get a rental car.
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As for the guy lamenting the lack of non-Romanians, my favorite girl has long told me that no matter where the girl tells you she is from, they are pretty much all Romanians. At least at Oase. I would think this also holds true at most FKK's. Of course there are exceptions, such as Asians and black girls.[/QUOTE]Once you speak Romanian, one quickly finds that the number of nationalities encountered in the club drops off quite precipitously.
It's hard really to meet non-Romanians in the clubs once your Romanian reaches a decent level. I always find it cute when someone reports here going to the room with a girl from Spain or Italy or some such place. Alas, back in the day, I also had the pleasure of meeting "other (claimed) nationalities" when my language skills were not what they are today.
I must admit that a certain level of language skills can rob one of the enjoyment of meeting other nationalities in the club. Another possibility is that I am so attracted to the Romanian look that this preference prevents me from meeting non-Romanians.
Alas, I remember the good 'ole days when the girls would successfully trick me into believing I was conquering country-after-country, only to later learn that I was just being gullible. Oh, to be ignorant again! In fact, when a girl is tricking a guy in the club into believing she is from Switzerland or some such place, I always play along. I don't want to rob the guy of the thrill of bagging a Swiss girl. I mean, who would want to take that away from someone?
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Many times when I'm going to Oase the taxi driver says to me "10 Euros, ok? Well, I guess I can do the same returning to Friedrichsdorf by indicating the fare upfront and going with the driver who agrees. Worth a try.
Regarding the issue of Romanians in FKK I have more or less given up on looking for non Romanians. My experience with Romanians is that its very rare to get excellent experiences with them but its also rare to get very bad sessions. Most are just 'get the job done' encounters. I guess why many Romanians say they are from other countries is because of dudes' intent on 'exploring' other countries. I can more or less distinguish from looks the difference between a Romanian and a Pole, Czech, Russian, Ukrainian or German. Its a little more difficult with a Moldavian, Spaniard or Italian. In any event I would estimate about 95% of the girls to be Romanian.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2191149]Most are just 'get the job done' encounters.
In any event I would estimate about 95% of the girls to be Romanian.[/QUOTE]If you convince the girls that you are not in a hurry, this should eliminate the "get the job done" encounters. I pretty much never experience someone trying to rush me at Oase. On the contrary, they are trying to keep me in the room as long as possible, because they want to maximize earnings. This is what happens when the girls know that you will stay in the room as long as you are happy (or until you get hungry). Visiting on slow days will also help to counteract any "rush" tendencies.
The estimate of 95% may well be correct, but in my personal estimation, 95% is sounds low and the actual percentage is likely higher. Good for me since I love Romanians.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2191149]Many times when I'm going to Oase the taxi driver says to me "10 Euros, ok? Well, I guess I can do the same returning to Friedrichsdorf by indicating the fare upfront and going with the driver who agrees. Worth a try.
Regarding the issue of Romanians in FKK I have more or less given up on looking for non Romanians. My experience with Romanians is that its very rare to get excellent experiences with them but its also rare to get very bad sessions. Most are just 'get the job done' encounters. I guess why many Romanians say they are from other countries is because of dudes' intent on 'exploring' other countries. I can more or less distinguish from looks the difference between a Romanian and a Pole, Czech, Russian, Ukrainian or German. Its a little more difficult with a Moldavian, Spaniard or Italian. In any event I would estimate about 95% of the girls to be Romanian.[/QUOTE]If you are talking about 50 standard service you shouldn't expect more in Oase. But if you are willing to pay more, you can get more than get the job done service in Oase.
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[QUOTE=Beagleface;2190760]So I spent about a week at Oase and 1 day at Sharks. I've been to both places many many times. What makes the difference at any of these clubs is finding a girl to your tastes. That said, it is getting harder and harder to deal with the attitudes of so many of the girls, particularly the Romanians which is about 95% of the girls. Many girls will provide at best an indifferent service if you pay 50 Euros 'only' and then after that, pretty much ignore you forever after. At both clubs, upselling is much too common and annoying.
Though I was in Frankfurt for a week, I only spent 1 day at Sharks since I had a terrible experience with one of the prettier girls there--a very thin, flat chested but very pretty Romanian, possibly gypsy gal. She demanded that I not look at my watch and when she thought I did, became very angry. I ended the session right there, didn't 'finish', and gave her 50 euros to leave me alone. A number of girls will give you some kind of story (my house was taken from me, my mother is having an operation, etc).
That said, many of the girls at both places are still lovely, though I'd say the proportion of real beauties is going down. I think more and more Romanians are descending on the clubs and basically are out to get as much money as possible from you as quickly as they can. Some clearly would rather rip you off in one way or another than provide a decent service.
Since I've been doing to these clubs for years, I can say without question that this ugly attitude is very common among Romanians- a fact that no doubt has been noted many times before on this board. Poles, Bulgarians, Russians, Estonians and more are much more likely to give a decent experience. Go ahead, call me a racist, whatever, facts are facts.
Can anyone recommend any clubs- perhaps near Koln or Dusseldorf- that have more EE type girls and fewer Romanians? Much appreciated if so.[/QUOTE]Oase has a pretty bad reputation based on people that I've talked to. I heard 50 Euros extra for kissing, etc. Some guys told me that the girls tried to scamm them by quoting 300 to 400 Euros. Recently, somebody told me, he got quoted for 200 Euros for 1 HR of service. LOL.
Another punter told me that he was upsold 3 sessions initially with his regular. LOL. So, who do we believe?
At least if somebody writes transparent report on girls taken and how much he regularly spends, that would support their claims and provide more insights. I know supporting details is needed for statements to be convincing. Other than that, it's just vague arbitrary statements. The purpose of reports is to provide helpful advice, not for shilling.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2191280]Oase has a pretty bad reputation based on people that I've talked to. I heard 50 Euros extra for kissing, etc. Some guys told me that the girls tried to scamm them by quoting 300 to 400 Euros. Recently, somebody told me, he got quoted for 200 Euros for 1 HR of service. LOL.
Another punter told me that he was upsold 3 sessions initially with his regular. LOL. So, who do we believe?
At least if somebody writes transparent report on girls taken and how much he regularly spends, that would support their claims and provide more insights. I know supporting details is needed for statements to be convincing. Other than that, it's just vague arbitrary statements. The purpose of reports is to provide helpful advice, not for shilling.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you, Oase is a real nightmare, sucking girls, very bad service, rude staff, bad food, I completely stopped to go there after more than 10 years.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2191280]Oase has a pretty bad reputation based on people that I've talked to. I heard 50 Euros extra for kissing, etc. Some guys told me that the girls tried to scamm them by quoting 300 to 400 Euros. Recently, somebody told me, he got quoted for 200 Euros for 1 HR of service. LOL.
Another punter told me that he was upsold 3 sessions initially with his regular. LOL. So, who do we believe?
At least if somebody writes transparent report on girls taken and how much he regularly spends, that would support their claims and provide more insights. I know supporting details is needed for statements to be convincing. Other than that, it's just vague arbitrary statements. The purpose of reports is to provide helpful advice, not for shilling.[/QUOTE]Regular readers should already be well aware that 50 euro doesn't get much good service from top lookers at Oase; however, many have reported good 50 euro services from lower optic girls. Obviously the girls will take as much money as they can get so 200 to 300 euro per hour quotes come up.
There are plenty of accounts on this board with supporting details that reveal that the 100 euro hour with good service can be had pretty easily at Oase. Things like FIV, ball licking, rimming, and extreme GFE may not always be provided but the lack of those things do not necessary constitute poor service. Adequate kissing, BBBJ, and passionate or porn star sex is probably more in line with most monger's acceptable standard of good service. The general attitude towards a club is more in line with reality than the opinion of mongers who have very specific tastes.
Oase is what it is, an unfriendly place for 50 euro mongers. Spend 100 in an hour? A good time can still be had. It has been this way for at least 2 years now. Smart 50 euro mongers just choose to stay away and see no point in complaining about it.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2191304]Regular readers should already be well aware that 50 euro doesn't get much good service from top lookers at Oase; however, many have reported good 50 euro services from lower optic girls. Obviously the girls will take as much money as they can get so 200 to 300 euro per hour quotes come up.
There are plenty of accounts on this board with supporting details that reveal that the 100 euro hour with good service can be had pretty easily at Oase. Things like FIV, ball licking, rimming, and extreme GFE may not always be provided but the lack of those things do not necessary constitute poor service. Adequate kissing, BBBJ, and passionate or porn star sex is probably more in line with most monger's acceptable standard of good service. The general attitude towards a club is more in line with reality than the opinion of mongers who have very specific tastes.
Oase is what it is, an unfriendly place for 50 euro mongers. Spend 100 in an hour? A good time can still be had. It has been this way for at least 2 years now. Smart 50 euro mongers just choose to stay away and see no point in complaining about it.[/QUOTE]I don't know what your rambling on about. Who isn't aware that 50 Euros session doesn't get much at Oase, which doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote (which is about rip-off stories I've heard from others).
I have no idea about all that crap about rimjob, etc. No idea that that is about. LOL. Or adequate service or your idea of service or whatever.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2191370]I don't know what your rambling on about. Who isn't aware that 50 Euros session doesn't get much at Oase, which doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote (which is about rip-off stories I've heard from others).
I have no idea about all that crap about rimjob, etc. No idea that that is about. LOL. Or adequate service or your idea of service or whatever.[/QUOTE]Retort to your claim that there is not adequate info with supporting detail was the main point. Reading the post til the end will reveal the thesis.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2191387]Retort to your claim that there is not adequate info with supporting detail was the main point. Reading the post til the end will reveal the thesis.[/QUOTE]I was meaning reports. Here is an example from Youppie:
I recently went to Oase when it was several years since I returned there. I should have read the reviews before going because it was a shock. All the girls who shoot, who are aggressive, who get angry when you do not want to go with her.
That day I went with four girls who were all worse experiences than others. From the start she insists that we pay for extras. Basic services like French Kiss Cunnilingus caresses no longer exists. For 50 you only have a passive woman like a starfish and who pulls the mouth. I would have had more fun to masturbate myself.
I went there on a Saturday and I remember that at times there were a lot of people while that evening there was not a high attendance. Many girls were still available.
But what happened? It's not just the law that can explain everything. I feel that the type of client has changed. There was a lot more Asian and foreign person. And it's true that the girls were very attracted to Asian people. It is possible that they are manipulated and that because of this the tariffs increase.
That night I did not manage to find girls of other origin than Romanian or Moldavian. Yes girls are very pretty but if there is no interaction or passion it's really not nice. We only feel like wallets and nothing else.
It is clear that the Oase will never see me again! I am delighted to have known the time before leaving but allowed me to make wonderful encounters such as Gabriella.
You think the Oase management is going to do something or will it stay in this state?
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Other FKK's recommended, given the problems at Oase?
So it seems many agree with me (see recent post) that attitude at Oase has dropped off badly. I do attribute this to the Romanian attitude. Since I've been doing FKK's for years, I have been with Germans, Russians, Poles, Latvians, etc etc. While any nationality can provide awful service, there is no doubt that Romanians are the most likely to give you a bad attitude, and even to simply be out to rip you off. Anyway- can anyone recommend clubs that have fewer Romanians and more Poles, Russians, Latvians, Bulgarians- anything? I was up North years ago (Living Room maybe?) and the mixture of nationalities was much better- but this was at least 3 to 4 years ago. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=JennyKk;2191220]If you are talking about 50 standard service you shouldn't expect more in Oase. But if you are willing to pay more, you can get more than get the job done service in Oase.[/QUOTE]That is not always the case. I've been in Frankfurt close to 3 weeks now and have sessioned 20 girls 2 of which were 1 hour 100 Euro sessions and many of my 50 Euro 1/2 hour sessions were more satisfying than them.
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Fun in Frankfurt.
Went for a 3 day tour of FKK's. I covered oase, sharks, palace.
1. Oase. Went around 3 pm on Thur. 50 Euro entrance. The receptionist surprisingly explained the pricing for the various services to be had with the girls.
Had 4 sessions. One was 100 Euro for an hour. The rest 50 Euro. All girls were Romanian. Forget names. Included LFK BBBJ. Food was OK. It was too hot outside but pleasant in the evening.
One session in the night in the cabana. Left at 1 am.
2. Sharks- 65 euro entrance at 1 pm on Fri. 3 sessions. Bella was excellent. 50 euro. Christina 100 euro for the hour with CIM. Better inside / outside area. Food was better too. Left at 1 am.
3. Palace- 75 euro at 1 pm on sat. Camilla was fun. Really made me laugh and enjoy the session. Great BBBJ. 30 minutes /60 euro. Food not good.
Overall Sharks is the best bet. Enjoy!
SOMM.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2191417]I was meaning reports. Here is an example from Youppie:
I recently went to Oase when it was several years since I returned there. I should have read the reviews before going because it was a shock. All the girls who shoot, who are aggressive, who get angry when you do not want to go with her.
That day I went with four girls who were all worse experiences than others. From the start she insists that we pay for extras. Basic services like French Kiss Cunnilingus caresses no longer exists. For 50 you only have a passive woman like a starfish and who pulls the mouth. I would have had more fun to masturbate myself.
I went there on a Saturday and I remember that at times there were a lot of people while that evening there was not a high attendance. Many girls were still available.
But what happened? It's not just the law that can explain everything. I feel that the type of client has changed. There was a lot more Asian and foreign person. And it's true that the girls were very attracted to Asian people. It is possible that they are manipulated and that because of this the tariffs increase.[/QUOTE]Lots of reports right here. Go back and read them.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2191486]That is not always the case. I've been in Frankfurt close to 3 weeks now and have sessioned 20 girls 2 of which were 1 hour 100 Euro sessions and many of my 50 Euro 1/2 hour sessions were more satisfying than them.[/QUOTE]At Oase? Which girls? Specifying which girls will let us know if your good 50 euro rooms apply to top optics girls.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2191417]But what happened? It's not just the law that can explain everything. I feel that the type of client has changed. There was a lot more Asian and foreign person. And it's true that the girls were very attracted to Asian people. It is possible that they are manipulated and that because of this the tariffs increase.[/QUOTE]This is a big problem with posting reports also. Funnelling tourists who doesn't know a scam from a market value into the folds of girls treating you as a credit card. Tourists will soon enough enough ruin the entirety of FKK-land. And unfortunately messing about it here on the forum doesn't seem to lead anywhere. Everybody has their own excuses.
The older generation who recognizes us and weren't as used to the massive influx of overpaying tourists are not the problem. But the new lot you start to find in certain clubs doesn't seem to differentiate as much as they will just go to the fast short term money from hyped tourist #1837. And wanking off to cinema porn may soon be equally good as fucking some of these younger wallets.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2191522]Lots of reports right here. Go back and read them.[/QUOTE]Real reports, not fake ones or vague statements. You should learn to read.
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[QUOTE=Beagleface;2191462]So it seems many agree with me (see recent post) that attitude at Oase has dropped off badly. I do attribute this to the Romanian attitude. Since I've been doing FKK's for years, I have been with Germans, Russians, Poles, Latvians, etc etc. While any nationality can provide awful service, there is no doubt that Romanians are the most likely to give you a bad attitude, and even to simply be out to rip you off. Anyway- can anyone recommend clubs that have fewer Romanians and more Poles, Russians, Latvians, Bulgarians- anything? I was up North years ago (Living Room maybe?) and the mixture of nationalities was much better- but this was at least 3 to 4 years ago. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm sure it's just a service agreement among the girls to rip people off and management don't care. I wouldn't say it's nationality related, but the kind of environment due to being almost all Romanian, bad management, and naive clients.
Many agree with you. It's the usual upsell reports, etc..
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2191304]Smart 50 euro mongers just choose to stay away and see no point in complaining about it.[/QUOTE]Sounds like good advice to me. I disagree with the racist statement about Romanians. Try living room. Mostly Romanians and top service. And I've had amazing service without upsell from Romanians at many clubs, including Oase, but it can be hard to find these girls. Seriously though, if you can't afford 100 euro on a beautiful woman who is doing wonderful things to you that most women would not, then better get a different hobby, work on your attractiveness or make more money.
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[QUOTE=NoTaWorry;2191616]Sounds like good advice to me. I disagree with the racist statement about Romanians. Try living room. Mostly Romanians and top service. And I've had amazing service without upsell from Romanians at many clubs, including Oase, but it can be hard to find these girls. Seriously though, if you can't afford 100 euro on a beautiful woman who is doing wonderful things to you that most women would not, then better get a different hobby, work on your attractiveness or make more money.[/QUOTE]With this kind of comments you are completely destroying the 50 euro policy, why you don't stay in your country fucking the girls there.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2191607]Real reports, not fake ones or vague statements. You should learn to read.[/QUOTE]I myself have read dozens of reports with sufficient details of Oase, specific details with optics and service. Last visits in April and February. And that's just by me. Feel free to use the search tool. YMMV depending on if each girl possibly not enjoying the company of the monger. A monger's social awkwardness and physical appearance may lead to lesser service levels.
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Different folks, different strokes
Some people clearly have poor experiences at Oase. Others enjoy consistently good service there (myself included).
It would be wrong to conclude that everyone experiences bad service at Oase, in just the same way that it would be wrong to conclude that everyone experiences good service there.
For those willing to book long rooms and who are nice customers, Oase remains a wonderful paradise playground with many sweet girls.
I too have a choice of which clubs I visit. I find myself consistently returning to Oase as my favorite club. I fully acknowledge that this is somewhat a self-fulfilling prophecy. For example, if I spent as much time at Sharks as I do at Oase, I would probably receive much better treatment from Sharks girls than I do, as I would be a much more well-known face at Sharks. But, such-as-it-is, I am a well-known face at Oase, so that is the club where I enjoy red carpet treatment. Yes, there are benefits to club hopping -- but, there is also a big benefit to focusing most of your club days on one particular club and only occasionally venturing out to other clubs.
In a way, I actually sometimes enjoy reading reports of upselling and sharky behavior at Oase, because that makes me feel like I must be doing something right there, since I virtually never personally experience any of that.
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[QUOTE=NoTaWorry;2191616]Sounds like good advice to me. I disagree with the racist statement about Romanians. Try living room. Mostly Romanians and top service. And I've had amazing service without upsell from Romanians at many clubs, including Oase, but it can be hard to find these girls. Seriously though, if you can't afford 100 euro on a beautiful woman who is doing wonderful things to you that most women would not, then better get a different hobby, work on your attractiveness or make more money.[/QUOTE]50 rooms a year or 100 rooms a year. You choose yours, I will choose mine. Budget stays the same. Or actually it falls on the 50 room option since I would probably lower it to 40. And at 40, not much hobbying is left. May as well hit up a 6 or a 7 at the local country club.
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[QUOTE=Beagleface;2191462]So it seems many agree with me (see recent post) that attitude at Oase has dropped off badly. I do attribute this to the Romanian attitude. Since I've been doing FKK's for years, I have been with Germans, Russians, Poles, Latvians, etc etc. While any nationality can provide awful service, there is no doubt that Romanians are the most likely to give you a bad attitude, and even to simply be out to rip you off. Anyway- can anyone recommend clubs that have fewer Romanians and more Poles, Russians, Latvians, Bulgarians- anything? I was up North years ago (Living Room maybe?) and the mixture of nationalities was much better- but this was at least 3 to 4 years ago. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Oase upselling have nothing about Romanian girls who don t upsell in many other clubs. Same upselling at Mainhattan. Less upselling at Sharks from Romanian girls.
For less Romanians, GT Bruggen and Hamburg. No upselling at GT, some German and Hungarian girls.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2191545]At Oase? Which girls? Specifying which girls will let us know if your good 50 euro rooms apply to top optics girls.[/QUOTE]As is well known the top optics girls tend to not go for 50 Eur sessions. In an earlier post I stated that I was avoiding such providers. However, I succumbed and did 2 optic sessions for 100 Eur 1 hour. I have done many 50 Eur sessions with average girls and I have enjoyed many of these more than I did with the optics.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2191724]Some people clearly have poor experiences at Oase. Others enjoy consistently good service there (myself included).
It would be wrong to conclude that everyone experiences bad service at Oase, in just the same way that it would be wrong to conclude that everyone experiences good service there.
For those willing to book long rooms and who are nice customers, Oase remains a wonderful paradise playground with many sweet girls.
I too have a choice of which clubs I visit. I find myself consistently returning to Oase as my favorite club. I fully acknowledge that this is somewhat a self-fulfilling prophecy. For example, if I spent as much time at Sharks as I do at Oase, I would probably receive much better treatment from Sharks girls than I do, as I would be a much more well-known face at Sharks. But, such-as-it-is, I am a well-known face at Oase, so that is the club where I enjoy red carpet treatment..[/QUOTE]For my point of view, many girls at Oase are there for many years of were working in other clubs like Cheyenne. Most of them are real pro, knowing how to suck the cash from the guys who are still believing it is a good place to go. Sorry but Oase is very far from what it used to be like Shark but yes many guys are still happy there but it is not my case at all.
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Oase girls are smart. They try to find out which girls are top optics to you as a single monger. Then they raise the price on those girls.
Tactic: act as if you are desperately in love with the least attractive girl there.
Result: The hot ones will think they are ugly to you and go for 50 e.
Example:
- She is so hot. Those thighs on her are deadly sexy when they wobble like that. And the one tit hanging down a bit extra makes it easier to suck while doing doggy. None of these other girls are as hot.
Danger: Having it sound like rude irony. The above example was exaggerated a bit.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2191724]Some people clearly have poor experiences at Oase. Others enjoy consistently good service there (myself included).
It would be wrong to conclude that everyone experiences bad service at Oase, in just the same way that it would be wrong to conclude that everyone experiences good service there.
For those willing to book long rooms and who are nice customers, Oase remains a wonderful paradise playground with many sweet girls.
I too have a choice of which clubs I visit. I find myself consistently returning to Oase as my favorite club. I fully acknowledge that this is somewhat a self-fulfilling prophecy. For example, if I spent as much time at Sharks as I do at Oase, I would probably receive much better treatment from Sharks girls than I do, as I would be a much more well-known face at Sharks. But, such-as-it-is, I am a well-known face at Oase, so that is the club where I enjoy red carpet treatment. Yes, there are benefits to club hopping -- but, there is also a big benefit to focusing most of your club days on one particular club and only occasionally venturing out to other clubs.
In a way, I actually sometimes enjoy reading reports of upselling and sharky behavior at Oase, because that makes me feel like I must be doing something right there, since I virtually never personally experience any of that.[/QUOTE]Good point. That is way I felt it too.
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Wednesday at Oase
Today I continue with my quest to session and report on providers who are not reviewed here. In that vein I had 2 sessions at Oase. First with thirty something brunette Helena who said she was from Greece but most likely Romania. Her service was poor, she tried every which way to avoid a pounding and said time was up well before 30 minutes. One to avoid. Second was blonde Veronica from Romania. More accommodating than Helena but nothing spectacular, more or less average 'get the job done'. Both were 50 Eur sessions. Service wise FKK girls remind me of the Chinese girls I sessioned in Hong Kong walk ups, some hits and some misses but more misses. However, looks wise (even the non optics) I still rate above most other destinations.
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Very impressed.
Been to Oase numerous times, my fist visit in 2013 was fantastic, maybe it was the novelty but back then I remembered the LU was fantastic. In my visits between the first and most recent the LU has been average and in one case so poor I considered never returning. This last time though it was almost as good as the first time. I didn't find any of the girls to be particularly pushy and most offered BBBJ in either a 50 session or 100 session. A couple of the 'high end' girls that strutted around like they thought they were the best were most likely to offer BBBJ in only a 100 Eu session but I passed. Despite me making a determined effort to remember names of the three girls I saw I forgot to do so, I was so wrapped up in the moment. I didn't encounter any girls that were too pushy. I have noticed the decline in 'action' in the kino.
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I was in Frankfurt for a day
I was scheduled to do a one day layover in Frankfurt, so I couldn't resist dropping in for a quickie. I could only stay for a few hours, so I zipped over from the hotel to look for the perfect fuck. I chose Celina (not sure about spelling).
Celina is half Thai and half European. She says half Italian, but I'm sure she's half Romanian. She says she's 26 years old. Perfect body with be cups, sweet little feet, amazing legs and ass, a pretty shaved kitty, and a beauty pageant winner's face. Amazing DFK, sweet and so much fun in bed. She is gorgeous, sexy, and gives a killer, wet, perfect BBBJ. I loooooved fucking her sweet little mouth. In 69, she was on top and repositioned herself and teased me with her butt hole. She has an amazing ass and a porn pornstar's perfect anally bleached butthole, and I couldn't resist and I started licking it. She started to moan and lubricate, and she told me she really loved assfucking and that my cock would be perfect for it. I was so happy with her I chose to complete the session with anal, costing 100 extra and her little chocolate starfish was absolutely a blast to fuck. I ended up spending 90 minutes with her, and her way of thanking me was to waive 30 min of the 90 min session. A great gal!
Afterwards, I was so tired and fulfilled that I didn't really want to fuck anyone else afterwards. This black hottie from Ghana looked hot, but I was too tired to sample her wares. A decade ago, I went to Oase for my 50th birthday and fucked seven women in a day, but I am no longer a young man. I wanted a therapeutic massage, but it was totally booked up. And by the way, I heard the Thai lady massage provider is actually transgender, so I was less tempted than normal.
I met an interesting Chinese guy there, from Chicago and in town for business, we compared notes. There was this really hot Romanian beauty, with pinkish red hair, who I was tempted by. But my spidey sense was tingling when she tried to seduce me. He confirmed my suspicion that she was an upsell queen, and when he refused, she assumed the starfish position. He was kind of pissed, but fortunately, found a really good gal for a second pop. It was good to meet you!
Finally, the place also did a little renovation they removed the wall separating the Kino cinema room from the main room, making it less amenable to enjoying public sex in a nice darkened environment. Plus, they installed hookahs, so it's all smoky now. Yuck! As far as I'm concerned, they screwed the pooch there.
The general level of the line up seems lower. I'd say of the 60-80 women present, only five were 10s, but the rest were, frankly, entirely doable. I hear the line up at Sharks has more hotties, and I was tempted to try it out the next morning before heading out, but ended up being okay about doing just doing one day at Oase and returning to my business trip itinerary. It was a great way to kill some time and fuck a very beautiful woman.
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Oops
I just realized I had already posted about her! I guess a senior moment. Haha!
See: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2183479[/URL].
Man, I really liked that little hapa spinner!
[QUOTE=Tommylove;2193109]I was scheduled to do a one day layover in Frankfurt, so I couldn't resist dropping in for a quickie. I could only stay for a few hours, so I zipped over from the hotel to look for the perfect fuck. I chose Celina (not sure about spelling).
Celina is half Thai and half European. She says half Italian, but I'm sure she's half Romanian. She says she's 26 years old. Perfect body with be cups, sweet little feet, amazing legs and ass, a pretty shaved kitty, and a beauty pageant winner's face. Amazing DFK, sweet and so much fun in bed. She is gorgeous, sexy, and gives a killer, wet, perfect BBBJ. I loooooved fucking her sweet little mouth. In 69, she was on top and repositioned herself and teased me with her butt hole. She has an amazing ass and a porn pornstar's perfect anally bleached butthole, and I couldn't resist and I started licking it. She started to moan and lubricate, and she told me she really loved assfucking and that my cock would be perfect for it. I was so happy with her I chose to complete the session with anal, costing 100 extra and her little chocolate starfish was absolutely a blast to fuck. I ended up spending 90 minutes with her, and her way of thanking me was to waive 30 min of the 90 min session. A great gal!
Afterwards, I was so tired and fulfilled that I didn't really want to fuck anyone else afterwards. This black hottie from Ghana looked hot, but I was too tired to sample her wares. A decade ago, I went to Oase for my 50th birthday and fucked seven women in a day, but I am no longer a young man. I wanted a therapeutic massage, but it was totally booked up. And by the way, I heard the Thai lady massage provider is actually transgender, so I was less tempted than normal.
I met an interesting Chinese guy there, from Chicago and in town for business, we compared notes. There was this really hot Romanian beauty, with pinkish red hair, who I was tempted by. But my spidey sense was tingling when she tried to seduce me. He confirmed my suspicion that she was an upsell queen, and when he refused, she assumed the starfish position. He was kind of pissed, but fortunately, found a really good gal for a second pop. It was good to meet you!
Finally, the place also did a little renovation they removed the wall separating the Kino cinema room from the main room, making it less amenable to enjoying public sex in a nice darkened environment. Plus, they installed hookahs, so it's all smoky now. Yuck! As far as I'm concerned, they screwed the pooch there.
The general level of the line up seems lower. I'd say of the 60-80 women present, only five were 10s, but the rest were, frankly, entirely doable. I hear the line up at Sharks has more hotties, and I was tempted to try it out the next morning before heading out, but ended up being okay about doing just doing one day at Oase and returning to my business trip itinerary. It was a great way to kill some time and fuck a very beautiful woman.[/QUOTE]
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Luggage at Oase.
I will have one day layover (23 hrs) at Fra coming up. I always stored my luggage at airport before. However, I am wondering if I can leave my luggage (a little bigger than hand carry one) at oase from.
1 pm to 4 am.
Many thanks.
Dave.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2193766]I will have one day layover (23 hrs) at Fra coming up. I always stored my luggage at airport before. However, I am wondering if I can leave my luggage (a little bigger than hand carry one) at oase from.
1 pm to 4 am.
[/QUOTE]They may or may not allow this. Their actual reception area is quite small. I have seen them refuse people this before, citing lack of space. On other days, I have seen them hold people's small luggage. May depend on how busy they are.
You may be forced to put the contents of your bag in your clothes locker and store your suitcase on top of the lockers. It's difficult to imagine someone stealing your suitcase with all of the cameras around, but you never know.
You will just have to prevail on the kindness of the reception personnel so be very overly nice to them when you request this.
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What happened to Oase?
Drop by last night (Monday), last time was at Oase was two years ago, I know Monday night it is not great night to go but still I was so disappointed by the poor line up and poor service provided by the two girls I stayed with. This used to be my fav club with unique vibe, it was dead last night with few customers and not many girls!
I am planning to give Oase one more chance, what day of the week do you guys recommend?
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[QUOTE=Jblack;2193883]Drop by last night (Monday), last time was at Oase was two years ago, I know Monday night it is not great night to go but still I was so disappointed by the poor line up and poor service provided by the two girls I stayed with. This used to be my fav club with unique vibe, it was dead last night with few customers and not many girls!
I am planning to give Oase one more chance, what day of the week do you guys recommend?[/QUOTE]May be just stick on my reports since 6 months, I always try to be very realistic and pragmatic, Oase is going down very strongly, LU is poor, management is a disaster, staff also a cheating club like Artemis or Palace, if no other choice why not but so many other possibilities in Germany.
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[QUOTE=Jblack;2193883]I am planning to give Oase one more chance, what day of the week do you guys recommend?[/QUOTE]As for most clubs: Friday and Saturday will give you the largest number of girls.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2193808]They may or may not allow this. Their actual reception area is quite small. I have seen them refuse people this before, citing lack of space. On other days, I have seen them hold people's small luggage. May depend on how busy they are.
You may be forced to put the contents of your bag in your clothes locker and store your suitcase on top of the lockers. It's difficult to imagine someone stealing your suitcase with all of the cameras around, but you never know.
You will just have to prevail on the kindness of the reception personnel so be very overly nice to them when you request this.[/QUOTE]Thank you UH. I will just pay 7 e to store it at airport then.
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[QUOTE=Jblack;2193883]Drop by last night (Monday), last time was at Oase was two years ago, I know Monday night it is not great night to go but still I was so disappointed by the poor line up and poor service provided by the two girls I stayed with. This used to be my fav club with unique vibe, it was dead last night with few customers and not many girls!
I am planning to give Oase one more chance, what day of the week do you guys recommend?[/QUOTE]Don't give them a second chance. Try Sharks. I was in Oase on Friday and in sharks on Saturday. Sharks line up much better.
I will post detailed report tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=Jblack;2193883]Drop by last night (Monday), last time was at Oase was two years ago, I know Monday night it is not great night to go but still I was so disappointed by the poor line up and poor service provided by the two girls I stayed with. This used to be my fav club with unique vibe, it was dead last night with few customers and not many girls!
I am planning to give Oase one more chance, what day of the week do you guys recommend?[/QUOTE]I have been to FKK's where the number of lookers 8-9's have dropped from about 10 on Saturday to just 1 or 2 on Monday. It really is the worst day of the week in the majority of clubs. Maybe a few clubs have an equally bad Tuesday too, but normally even Tuesdays are much better.
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Hey guys,
I will be in Frankfurt next week. Visiting Sharks, Oase, and an escort who is flexible with her schedule. Which days would be ideal to visit Sharks and Oase.
I will have from Sunday night until Tuesday midnight to visit these places.
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15 june Friday Visit
That was definitely my worst visit. Lineup was terribly disappointing. I visited Sharks and World the day after on Saturday. Even World LU was better than Oase. Every 4 of 5 girls that I met was already started to work in club. I was with 3 girls.
Delia. She was wearing red socks. Nice face but a bit fat. Blonde and beautiful eyes. Brunette. I was so picky on my first session and as usual I made a wrong choice. She agreed on COF but continued to suck when I was cumming. And immediately splitted everything and burped. She is killing the mood. She wouldn't be accepting that. She agreed on kissing but only light french kisses. Generally with all the girls I felt that the motto "You can have my body but my soul!
I don't remember the name of other two girls but both were not good.
One was a short blonde hair brunette from Romania and she is 20 years old. Very thin and a little bit tall. Overall I was really disappointed with the line up and service level. Every girls try to charge me for BBBJ and LFK. I asked a few of them and they asked for kissing and BBBJ for 50 Euro. I think BBBJ is avaialble usually without additional payment but I have noticed a new strange behaviour. Girls are sucking dick and they split every 10 seconds. I guess someone informed them about health risks of oral sex.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2194199]That was definitely my worst visit. Lineup was terribly disappointing. I visited Sharks and World the day after on Saturday. Even World LU was better than Oase. Every 4 of 5 girls that I met was already started to work in club. I was with 3 girls.
I don't remember the name of other two girls but both were not good.[/QUOTE]We are getting these biased views of the line up all the time. A guy chooses 2 or 3 crappy girls, and so then the whole line up is crap.
This is not reality. Oase does have some girls with a good face, and some with a great body, maybe the odd one with both. That is without taking service levels or attitude into account. IMHO Oase has more "pretty" girls than Sharks where I would struggle to find many pretty faced girls for my taste, just only good bodies.
The important point is many guys have moved on from Oase because they want to spend just 50 Euros, and not tolerate lots of upsell, for unwanted services, or services wanted for free.
I recently attended The Living Room, a good example of where many guys go to spend 50 per session. Some good looking girls but a shortage of them on a busy Saturday night, and too many guys. Waits for girls and waits for rooms. Could not get to one pretty girl who was booked out. Being a guy that normally spends more than a 50 per session, I would continue to be an Oase customer rather than Living Room guy, because I find the Oase girls prettier, and more skilled, and more fun, when I motivate them and pick the right girls. My girls at LR were just so so and do not compete with my Oase Favourites. Maybe again I failed to pick the right ones, as was concentrating on the pretty ones and slim, which were not in large supply.
A lot comes down to picking the right girl, in any club, but looks of the line up is independent of service. Also pick the right club depending on your spending levels per girl. For 50 guys, I can't recommend Oase, and even Sharks maybe become questionable for those wanting to spend 50, and expecting the perfect service for that much.
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When is the best time?
Plan to visit some days next month?
When is the best time? Good line & quality, but not too crowded.
What about Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday? Or better avoid weekends (maybe too crowded)?
Any comments?
Thanks.
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I have been to Sharks a few times, and I'm debating a visit to Oase. I am typically a 50 euro guy for the first session with a girl, covered BJs are fine. Do the girls at Oase inlcude DATY in the 50 euro sessions?
Also, how does one get to Oase by public transport (some walking ok).
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Getting to Oase.
Assuming you mean from Frankfurt you get the S5 train to Friedrichsdorf, about 25 minutes. From there a taxi will cost you around 10 Eu, too expensive IMHO but too far to walk unless you are tight with money, in which case you shouldn't go to FKK.
[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2195610]I have been to Sharks a few times, and I'm debating a visit to Oase. I am typically a 50 euro guy for the first session with a girl, covered BJs are fine. Do the girls at Oase inlcude DATY in the 50 euro sessions?
Also, how does one get to Oase by public transport (some walking ok).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tinny2000;2195443]Plan to visit some days next month?
When is the best time? Good line & quality, but not too crowded.
What about Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday? Or better avoid weekends (maybe too crowded)?
Any comments?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Arrive before 4 pm for entry 50.
Best casting on Friday and Saturday, after 5 pm. Not so crowded until Turkish arriving at 9/10 pm.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2195673]Arrive before 4 pm for entry 50.
Best casting on Friday and Saturday, after 5 pm. Not so crowded until Turkish arriving at 9/10 pm.[/QUOTE]Better advise just go directly to Shark forget this cheating club with such a poor LU and management.
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Friday night at Oase.
Had the opportunity to stop at Oase on Friday June 22. Had been in January, March, and April, and this visit was very good. Fantastic ratio and had a great time. Arrived about 9:30 and had first session with Claudia (Romanian, 20's, 155 cm, slim, dark hair, be / see cup, tattoos on arm, back, 8-9 looks, 10 performance). She started out with an offer that was way to much for me (300 euro for 1 hour, everything on the table, so the all inclusive offer). Unfortunately, I am on the wrong side of 60, so those offers typically don't work for me. We settled on 200 Euro for 1 hour for much the same without anal. And surprisingly, I was up for most of the task, coming twice (once with normal sex, second time CIM), significant time with foreplay, 69, etc. Overall a great time with a great lady.
Second session around midnight, not as good, but 100 euro for an hour, again great foreplay, but only able to come once.
So no discussion at all on the topic of earlier this year, looks like things are back to normal. Looking forward to my next visit. Still the best place outside of Thailand for me.
Will.
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Thanks for the info.
What about Monday and Tuesday?
Pretty dead?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2195673]Arrive before 4 pm for entry 50.
Best casting on Friday and Saturday, after 5 pm. Not so crowded until Turkish arriving at 9/10 pm.[/QUOTE]
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The best and the worst.
Hi all,
Been visiting Oase last week. The club is the same but the atmosphere and the girls and worst than before. Anyway, seen a hot girl with a top model body. She was in good mood and I thought she will be nice in room. Her name is Amanda and to summarise the time with her I'll just say. The worst sex I have ever had in my life. As hot she looks as bad she fucks. Do yourself a favor and avoid. She don't like to suck. She don't like doggy. She don't and don't and don't. I felt pity for her and this is the only reason I didn't go to complain in the reception.
On the other hand, Amazing Sara is in the club. Was so happy to see her after long time I always miss her. She's all charm and beauty. Such and amazing lady. And yes she's more than 30 but looks better than all the 19-20 why. O girls in the club. I can only say Sara made me feel like I'm 18 again. She's amazing. She made me feel so good. GFE at it's best. Thank you thank you Sara. Hope to see you soon, it's a bet since other girls in there are 6 and lower nowadays and I don't know if you'll be there but for you I might take this bet.
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[QUOTE=Blover34;2196148]Hi all,
Been visiting Oase last week. The club is the same but the atmosphere and the girls and worst than before. Anyway, seen a hot girl with a top model body. She was in good mood and I thought she will be nice in room. Her name is Amanda and to summarise the time with her I'll just say. The worst sex I have ever had in my life. As hot she looks as bad she fucks. Do yourself a favor and avoid. She don't like to suck. She don't like doggy. She don't and don't and don't. I felt pity for her and this is the only reason I didn't go to complain in the reception........[/QUOTE]Luckily you did only a 50 euro half hour session and did not upgrade to 100 euros.
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[QUOTE=Blover34;2196148]Hi all,
Been visiting Oase last week. The club is the same but the atmosphere and the girls and worst than before. Anyway, seen a hot girl with a top model body. She was in good mood and I thought she will be nice in room. Her name is Amanda and to summarise the time with her I'll just say. The worst sex I have ever had in my life. As hot she looks as bad she fucks. Do yourself a favor and avoid. She don't like to suck. She don't like doggy. She don't and don't and don't. I felt pity for her and this is the only reason I didn't go to complain in the reception.
On the other hand, Amazing Sara is in the club. Was so happy to see her after long time I always miss her. She's all charm and beauty. Such and amazing lady. And yes she's more than 30 but looks better than all the 19-20 why. O girls in the club. I can only say Sara made me feel like I'm 18 again. She's amazing. She made me feel so good. GFE at it's best. Thank you thank you Sara. Hope to see you soon, it's a bet since other girls in there are 6 and lower nowadays and I don't know if you'll be there but for you I might take this bet.[/QUOTE]Amanda is not good in service. I had bad time with her too.
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[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2195610]I have been to Sharks a few times, and I'm debating a visit to Oase. I am typically a 50 euro guy for the first session with a girl, covered BJs are fine. Do the girls at Oase inlcude DATY in the 50 euro sessions?
Also, how does one get to Oase by public transport (some walking ok).[/QUOTE]If you intend on doing a 50 euro session, the odds are against you with the top optics and many not AO high optics also. For most girls, I have very little complaints for 100 euro 1 hour rooms. But even the ones who take 100 euro hours often do it begrudgingly. Claudia doesn't go with me anymore because she says I don't get extras and fuck the whole time. Carla gives good service during the 1 hour but sometimes talks about how she's giving me a "discount" which kinda ruins the mood. Ella / Kim refuses good service in 1 hour rooms. If I wasn't a regular, I think Lara would give shit service even in the hour.
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Taming the wildebeest
[QUOTE=Blover34;2196148]Anyway, seen a hot girl with a top model body. She was in good mood and I thought she will be nice in room. Her name is Amanda and to summarise the time with her I'll just say. The worst sex I have ever had in my life. Do yourself a favor and avoid. [/QUOTE]Amanda has many bad reviews on this thread, so your experience is by no means isolated. But, to clarify, she is not always bad to everyone. She is a YMMV girl. Now that she's been around awhile, she's quite capable of rendering good service, for example, when motivated by long rooms. You have to manage her appropriately and clearly communicate your expectations. May not work every time for everyone, but on a slow night when she doesn't have lots of Asians to trick into quick rooms, she can certainly be motivated to provide good service.
I remember one time, when she hadn't been at Oase so long, I tried to explain to a group of Chinese guys I was chatting with that it probably made sense to avoid her due to her bad service. Then, one of the Chinese guys promptly ran off to the room with her. One of the Chinese guys explained to me, "You see, it doesn't matter how bad she is. We don't get to fuck girls that look like that in China. It's worth it just for the experience of being able to fuck her -- no matter how bad the service is. " Haha. As long as plenty of Chinese people keep visiting Oase with that attitude, she'll continue making plenty of rooms.
Anyways, she can give good service when she wants to. The trick is convincing her that she wants to give you good service. Most are probably better off spending their money elsewhere, but for those who are up for the challenge, she can be tamed.
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[QUOTE=Blover34;2196148]On the other hand, Amazing Sara is in the club. Was so happy to see her after long time I always miss her. She's all charm and beauty. Such and amazing lady. And yes she's more than 30 but looks better than all the 19-20 why. O girls in the club. I can only say Sara made me feel like I'm 18 again. She's amazing. She made me feel so good. GFE at it's best. Thank you thank you Sara. Hope to see you soon, it's a bet since other girls in there are 6 and lower nowadays and I don't know if you'll be there but for you I might take this bet.[/QUOTE]True. She is hot and sexy. But did you get her without an upsell? I did once before she started on it. Touche. Maybe if she goes back on it.
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Sara didn't upsell anything. She was all charm as I wrote. Talks nice and in room gives the ultimate GFE.
[QiUOTE=Pistons;2196310]True. She is hot and sexy. But did you get her without an upsell? I did once before she started on it. Touche. Maybe if she goes back on it. [/QUOTE]
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The club was running very slow. She didn't work at all. As she's SP hot we agreed on a 1 hour room but she did all so bad like she's trying to do it on purpose so I called it after 30 min. I behave to all girls very nice and the last thing I'm is aggressive in any way. She's just looking to get your money without letting you even feel good for a sec. Only no and no and no. It's the first time I had a room with a girl that don't do BJ don't like doggy and ask you not to go all the way in since it hurts. I can now understand why she like Chinese guys but common if you don't want to go just say no. Your looks can't cover your bad bad bad service.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2196303]Amanda has many bad reviews on this thread, so your experience is by no means isolated. But, to clarify, she is not always bad to everyone. She is a YMMV girl. Now that she's been around awhile, she's quite capable of rendering good service, for example, when motivated by long rooms. You have to manage her appropriately and clearly communicate your expectations. May not work every time for everyone, but on a slow night when she doesn't have lots of Asians to trick into quick rooms, she can certainly be motivated to provide good service.
I remember one time, when she hadn't been at Oase so long, I tried to explain to a group of Chinese guys I was chatting with that it probably made sense to avoid her due to her bad service. Then, one of the Chinese guys promptly ran off to the room with her.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2196310]True. She is hot and sexy. But did you get her without an upsell? I did once before she started on it. Touche. Maybe if she goes back on it.[/QUOTE]Oase girls don't even bother trying to upsell me because they all already know that I pay nothing more than the standard rate for rooms longer than a half hour. True, I sometimes tip small amounts for half hour rooms (not always), but the last time I paid more than standard rate for long rooms was in December, 2016, but that was due to exceptional circumstances and was my personal choice on my last day in the club on that trip. I don't take extras. Oase girls don't try to upsell me on extras since they already know that such efforts would be completely futile. I do take long rooms when I am happy, but most girls know that it doesn't work to try to get me to commit to any time period. Instead, I often just stay in the room as long as I am happy.
Don't get me wrong. I've made the "mistake" of going with her plenty of times and experienced poor service from her many times. But now, somehow, I manage to get pretty decent service from her. Not great, but pretty decent. Anyways, she kept me decently happy on my most recent trip on a slow night when my favorite girls where not present.
In fact, I remember my very first room with her. It was so bad that I had to leave the room, grab another girl from outside the room, and have that girl give her a proper lecture in Romanian before resuming our room together (this was long before Amanda learned any English). It was her first week or so in the club, and she was so taken back by this approach that it seemed that she genuinely tried to deliver better service at that point, but she didn't really know what she was doing then, so our first room together was still pretty bad. I've never used that approach before on a girl, but her service was so incredibly deplorable in our first room that desperate measures had to resorted to.
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Nothing has improved. A plastic doll would be more fun in room then her. Its so pitty since she's hot af in looks only. But don't worth a penny.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2196454]Oase girls don't even bother trying to upsell me because they all already know that I pay nothing more than the standard rate for rooms longer than a half hour. True, I sometimes tip small amounts for half hour rooms (not always), but the last time I paid more than standard rate for long rooms was in December, 2016, but that was due to exceptional circumstances and was my personal choice on my last day in the club on that trip. I don't take extras. Oase girls don't try to upsell me on extras since they already know that such efforts would be completely futile. I do take long rooms when I am happy, but most girls know that it doesn't work to try to get me to commit to any time period. Instead, I often just stay in the room as long as I am happy.
Don't get me wrong. I've made the "mistake" of going with her plenty of times and experienced poor service from her many times. But now, somehow, I manage to get pretty decent service from her. Not great, but pretty decent. Anyways, she kept me decently happy on my most recent trip on a slow night when my favorite girls where not present..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Blover34;2196457]Nothing has improved. A plastic doll would be more fun in room then her. Its so pitty since she's hot af in looks only. But don't worth a penny.[/QUOTE]Depends on who her client is really.
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[QUOTE=Blover34;2196368]The club was running very slow. She didn't work at all. As she's SP hot we agreed on a 1 hour room but she did all so bad like she's trying to do it on purpose so I called it after 30 min. I behave to all girls very nice and the last thing I'm is aggressive in any way. She's just looking to get your money without letting you even feel good for a sec. Only no and no and no. It's the first time I had a room with a girl that don't do BJ don't like doggy and ask you not to go all the way in since it hurts. I can now understand why she like Chinese guys but common if you don't want to go just say no. Your looks can't cover your bad bad bad service.[/QUOTE]Even long room don't get you perfect service anymore. If you want certain girls, you'll pay more for them. It is possible to compromise looks or go with a girl that is not so busy. Certain girls with certain skills, will always be more costly, excluding those you go with for years.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2196454]
I do take long rooms when I am happy, but most girls know that it doesn't work to try to get me to commit to any time period. Instead, I often just stay in the room as long as I am happy.
Don't get me wrong. I've made the "mistake" of going with her plenty of times and experienced poor service from her many times. But now, somehow, I manage to get pretty decent service from her.
[/QUOTE]There would probably be less debate here if you provide any metric on your spending habits. Whatever you are comfortable sharing. It seems clear that Oase WGs know you and your handle, so obviously you wouldn't want your WGs to get jealous of each other.
For example, "When I see one of my faves, I spend an average of 300 EUR each time. But sometimes if I am in a good mood and she makes me happy I can spend up to 500 EUR. If she misbehaves I drop her to 100 EUR". Or "I made four trips last year and 20 visits to Oase. My top girl got 5000 EUR last year. Second place was 3000 EUR".
Most Oase haters are either unable or unwilling to spend such amounts.
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I think members should be comfortable to share what and how much they want to share and not compelled by others to answer any questions. That said, I think he has given enough hints. The thing is that our spend in the club is not just about the present but also about future. Companies track consumers how much they are spending, where, buying what and trying to entice consumers in a million ways. Girls in the clubs, to the extent possible, know who are the regular members, how much they spend and on who, and sell their wares and make their pitch accordingly. Your spend in the club creates epcpectations of continued spend in future and you receive treatment from girls accordingly.
Carla said to me very clearly "yes, I give all the good treatment at old prices to my REGULAR customers who have been with me for 4 years". I said, "but Carla, you need to think about next 4 years. If you give me good service, I could be your regular for the next 4". She thought for minute, agreed with that logic, and said yes. Probably because she has at least seen my face before.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2197426]There would probably be less debate here if you provide any metric on your spending habits. Whatever you are comfortable sharing. It seems clear that Oase WGs know you and your handle, so obviously you wouldn't want your WGs to get jealous of each other.
For example, "When I see one of my faves, I spend an average of 300 EUR each time. But sometimes if I am in a good mood and she makes me happy I can spend up to 500 EUR. If she misbehaves I drop her to 100 EUR". Or "I made four trips last year and 20 visits to Oase. My top girl got 5000 EUR last year. Second place was 3000 EUR".
Most Oase haters are either unable or unwilling to spend such amounts.[/QUOTE]When you are able to drive 1000 kms every week end, to spend 2000 a month with your woman type when she was able to behave like a woman, not like a low level prostitute ready for anything, even for only 25 like now, but unfortunately I didn't find any girl at Oase on Friday who looks and behave like a woman type, who worth a penny, when I can spend with women.
Some girls seen: Roxana on day team, the blond who looks like her older sister, on night team. The tanned skin, reddish hair, girl who doesn't want to tell her name. Long time Adina, Maya. A new Maya, Michele / Shayene who looked tired. A pretty face but very small, teeny look with chestnut hair in poney tail, with long hair on arms.
Delia was the prettiest face for me, but only normal, Romanisch kissing, when I need woman look, manners and behavior in bed.
So, once more no room for me, when night was falling, I decided to wake up after a low Oase casting, for a fast, really enjoyable run to Samya, despite big traffic because of works when arriving in Koln, where I arrived when Cinderella was going to bed, but did worth when I see Valeria, Alissa, Kim, Katea, and some others. Another planet for looks compare to Oase, higher looks level than Sharks on previous week end when my new expected Eve stopped after a enjoyable welcome and breakfast on last Friday, but Samya is very complicated for me, as not a suck and fuck rabbit, but a GFE lover. 9 hours driving, from 8 am, to enjoy her woman type at 3 am, even as I told her, I need more and she is limited vagina. But at least, a woman beauty, I did desire her as soon I saw her. No desire like this at Oase. No spark.
Only good time was a bit of tenderness with Lora and juicy. What a welcome from Lora, I wish her to enjoy her new life.
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[QUOTE=Nympholepsy;2195149]We are getting these biased views of the line up all the time. A guy chooses 2 or 3 crappy girls, and so then the whole line up is crap.
This is not reality. Oase does have some girls with a good face, and some with a great body, maybe the odd one with both. That is without taking service levels or attitude into account. IMHO Oase has more "pretty" girls than Sharks where I would struggle to find many pretty faced girls for my taste, just only good bodies.
The important point is many guys have moved on from Oase because they want to spend just 50 Euros, and not tolerate lots of upsell, for unwanted services, or services wanted for free.
A lot comes down to picking the right girl, in any club, but looks of the line up is independent of service. Also pick the right club depending on your spending levels per girl. For 50 guys, I can't recommend Oase, and even Sharks maybe become questionable for those wanting to spend 50, and expecting the perfect service for that much.[/QUOTE]Who told you that I am a 50 guy. Most of my sessions was for 100 euro. My reviews isn't only based on service level it is also for the looks. It looks it is impossible to be employed there without silicones. It was different in my previous visits so I needed to tell this.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2198018]Who told you that I am a 50 guy. Most of my sessions was for 100 euro. My reviews isn't only based on service level it is also for the looks. It looks it is impossible to be employed there without silicones. It was different in my previous visits so I needed to tell this.[/QUOTE]I usually see many natural tits at Oase, but real lack of class and woman types for my eyes and brain. I left so many times with full balls and full money.
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[QUOTE=Iceberg27;2198018]Who told you that I am a 50 guy. Most of my sessions was for 100 euro. My reviews isn't only based on service level it is also for the looks. It looks it is impossible to be employed there without silicones. It was different in my previous visits so I needed to tell this.[/QUOTE]Sorry but no girl is employed they are all independent workers with no hierarchical link to the FKK management, since the implementation of the new law and the strong economic growth in many eastern European countries the clubs are strongly struggling to attract girls, even I don t speak about new, girls which is more or less impossible, a lot of veteran one around even they are only 25 they have 7 years to be a prostitutes in different countries.
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Elisabeth.
So her walking in Goethe Strasse in Frankfurt, only dressed with very expensive brands, not looking at all like a *****, but in daylight her face is really a bit special concerning her shape, she was not happy at all that I saw her and has done everything to avoid me.
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Long overdue report from last week of May.
Sorry for the late report! I visited Oase (and World. See the FKK World thread) as part of a very long trip.
This visit was on the last Wednesday of May, starting at 3 pm till 10 pm.
Oase seems to have the superior lineup right now, even during the day at midweek, a sentiment echoed by other experienced mongers in the club. There were 20+ girls when I arrived, with quality varying from average to good, and even including some diamonds in the rough. That number went up to about 40-50 girls later, with quality only improving.
The prices were high, with most girls wanting 100-150 Euro for any kind of GFE or "extra". They weren't aggressively pushing it, but weren't budging either.
For my first girl, I wanted a one-hour session with "sex two times" and a COF finish. It was a tall order, and I soon realized I wouldn't get it for less than 150 Euro from a decent looking girl. I ended up waiting for the best diamond in the rough willing to do it, and ended up with Merona (Romanian). She was a newbie, and looked like a poster-girl for "fresh-faced teen debutantes". Girl 100% natural and firm, no tats / piercings, and spoke almost NO English (I got another girl to translate). She asked me to put my condom on myself, claiming she didn't know how (I believe her). She was absolutely stunning from face to ass and everything in between, in the milky-white girl-next-door way. She was very inexperienced, but an absolute unspoiled joy to work with. I set the pace and action, and she went along. I might have spent an entire half hour going down on her from every single position. We were in the fully-mirrored room, the one where you see yourself an infinite number of times from every angle (a la in the movie 'Interstellar' So I wanted to see what every position looked like from every angle while I ate out her beautiful body. It was a visual feast in addition to an oral one. She climaxed. It took a while, but I'd eaten her for so long and stimulated so many parts of her anatomy, it was inevitable. She also relaxed considerably after, allowing me to segue immediately to my COF. I straddled her as she was on her back, and she gave me a basic BBBJ. It didn't take me long to blow, and it was a perfect COF. Unlike previous ones where I had to avoid the girl's carefully coiffed hair and "shoot across", this one was straight up her face. It was a great load too, starting with a "shotgun blast" of tiny clear drops that made her flinch, then a healthy white rope all the way up the face, then white gobs shaken out at random, many of which ended up on her neck or even chest. Still, with the girl-next-door beauty she was, it resembled the very best amateur clips, and I was psyched to be part of it. We chilled for a while, then had that bit when I put my condom on alone, then fucked. Her pussy was as tight as the rest of her was inexperienced, true to form. So much so, she was really only comfortable on her side with me spooning her from behind. I didn't mind. I was still recovering from that big load I've blown, so I actually didn't blow another one with Merona. It was fine, as I wanted to save up for a long day.
Face: 8.5.
Body: 9.
Service: 8.
Extras: 10.
Would repeat: Absolutely, even for 150 Euro.
I got my first FKK threesome for the next about, with Adele and Karla (both Romanian). Adele was over 6 ft tall in heels, with short blonde hair and a "Cameron Diaz" face. In reality, her face was more beautiful than Cameron Diaz had probably ever been, and I told her that much. Her friend Karla was short, petite, brunette with brown eyes, but had the "hot and knows it" face, and simply the greatest pair of tits in the club. They were natural see-cups that hung like torpedoes from her too-small body, and she walked like she was very proud of them. I'd never want to see her at a regular dance club with no chance to fuck her, but at an FKK I consider her a "must-do". The girls wanted 100 Euro each for a half-hour GFE threesome, and I insisted on the barebones 50 Euro each instead. They weren't happy, and I could tell this would be a very scaled-down experience, but they simply had too much beauty to burn. It was over fast. A couple of covered BJs and straight to sex. I fucked the tall Adele on her back, so I can stare into that perfect face, and swapped condoms. Once I started fucking the petite Karla doggie-style, grabbing handfuls of those amazing tits, it was over fast. She was too fucking hot.
Adele.
Face: 9.5.
Body: 8.5.
Service: 7.
Extras: N/A.
Would repeat: Probably.
Karla.
Face: 9.
Body: 10.
Service: 7.
Extras: N/A.
Would repeat: Definitely.
My last tryst belonged to another tall blonde called Stephanie (Romanian) with another pretty face, braces, and a very approachable and talkative personality. I spent the most amount of time talking to her prior, in different areas of the club. I went for the basic 50 Euro option but still got an amazing BBBJ out of it, though after two loads blown I wasn't as sensitive. I returned the favor with more pussy-eating, though I didn't bring her to orgasm like I managed with Merona earlier. The sex was predictable but rewarding, and I had no problem blowing my third load in a condom, in her amazing and lithe body.
Face: 8.
Body: 8.5.
Service: 8.5.
Extras: N/A.
Would repeat: Yes.
Overall, the club was fantastic, with the outdoor pool party and BBQ being one of the more fun and memorable times in my mongering history. At 50 Euros cover charge (Wed discount) it really can't be beat.
I went to World in Geissen the following day and managed to repeat the pattern. Four girls including a threesome in a 7-8 HR span, to wrap up mongering for my trip. See my review there!
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Oase on Sunday, Arrived about 4 on a Sunday, absolute sausage fest, a few young ladies hanging around but nobody that looked like I would session with. Briefly toyed with the idea of not throwing good money after bad and just leaving, plenty of personable young ladies free to give a more than satisfactory time in the RLD for a fraction of the price. But I persevered and began to sink beers and making inroads into a water bottle full of rum I brought with me. Around 6:30 while taking cover from the heat outside two young ladies from Moldova approached me trying to tempt me with a threesome, once it was clear I was not interested one of them cleared off, I went to room with her remaining friend Tanya, who as soon as in the room expressed her disdain at my action of checking the time on my watch, bad omen right there. Omens are often correct and this was some such time as I was quoted a menu of nothing too special for 200 euro, once I communicated a simple 50 euro 30 minutes would be all I required she couldn't hide her disappointment, 30 minutes would have been nice, 15 was all I got, useless session, rushed jack hammer covered BJ of course, you would think professional sex workers would have some understanding of the concept of sensuality, well we thought wrong. Still angry with myself of going to the room before agreeing service and price, I know there are a lot of veterans reading this cursing at the screen about these weak minded newbies capitulating to these greedy wenches mind games, and I agree it's a disgrace. I actually could have shot off but wasn't wasting it on this nonsense. Would really love the know what goes through these tutes minds sometimes, on what planet is 50 euro for 15 minutes work a bad deal. These women are hardening my outlook on life and I don't like it one bit, life is so much better with some semblance of romanticism. Approaching 7 and the LU is heating up, some rather tasty looking buttocks parading around and I'm thanking the heavens (not religious, I refer to the skies here, the sun is what sustains us and many spend their life chasing the opportunity to bask in its glory, it's my only deity) I didn't release a load into a bag while admiring my form pumping Tanya in those mirrors that provide a view from every angle imaginable. Plenty of pert little asses around now that will provide a much more satisfactory memory. Lots of girls sitting on the backs of couches waiting to be approached, everyone has moved from outside, new girls are walking in every minute scanning to room to evaluate the lie of the land. A young Bulgarian is hanging off me for a while and she actually had a nice vibe but optics were not there for me, and I start to get the feeling that the harder the sell the worse the service, so no Zimmer for us today thanks. Approached by a young lady with possibly botoxed lips and a perfect little body, chatting away and I decided she might be worth a twirl so off we go, good attitude, a little bit light on the kissing than I would have liked, finished in her mouth and will look forward to the thought of those plumped up lips spitting all over me before taking my load on lonely nights to come. Probably overpaid by about 50 but I just don't have the hard bargaining skills on this yet, too much talk of money kills the vibe for me, but as I have already said these tutes are hardening my mindset more and more with every interaction, my affable smile is deteriorating rapidly. As soon as I have remunerated the lady for her services at the lockers an older German gentleman is quizzing me on service levels as he has his eye on her, he was quoted higher amount for the same service he tells me, this girl is going to make a lot of money tonight. Is Moldova the new Romania? Both today and in RLD it has been the majority of my interactions. Another young lady who wears glasses who was speaking to me earlier is now all over me on a couch, I actually like this girls vibe even if she was far from the hottest girl in the club, always liked the sexy secretary look. I knew I wouldn't be able to finish but I've come a long way to be here so no harm in adding another memory to the bank even if I wouldn't be able to cum. Really only have enough in the budget for a basic 50 so I have no intention of seeking out one of the princesses parading around. Really loved the time I had with this girl, her name escapes me unfortunately, very sensuous and looked and sounded great taking a pounding in mish, lovely B2B massaging while kissing, licking my ear, the girl knows how to please. Am really starting to understand this whole debate on optics vs service levels. While I sensed something rousing inside me I don't think I would be able to push myself over the edge without spending a lot more money on some extras and my budget was well and truly blown by now so a simple 50 euro 30 minutes session would have to do. I want to catch the last train to Frankfurt so have to leave close to 11 pm. I didn't get good value out of this visit so I'll come back one more time and try play ball harder with these women, if I can't soon get the hang of the negotiation process without completely killing off the mood then the FKKs are just going to be too expensive for me, what I mean by this is I have no trouble in any consumer situation standing there delivering my expectations to the service provider in an emotionless manner and moving on quickly once it's apparent we won't be seeing eye to eye, but the process of doing this with a naked female changes the dynamic, any adversarial attitude between parties goes against the end game of getting hot and sweaty together so some sort of illusion needs to be maintained, and they know it. Well luckily I have no trouble getting good service in the RLD so I fortunately won't be left without satisfaction. It would probably be better for the veterans if us weaklings cleared off also, pushing up the prices for all.
For those getting taxis it's pronounced "oh-ah-zuh" by the way. S is pronounced softly like a Z in German.
To add also, the food is absolute garbage in this place, for 70 I expect good food, the chicken is cooked ok and went well with the red cabbage but the rest is borderline inedible, what are they doing with all the money being handed over the counter? Can't even organise some half decent Pommes, that stuff can be bought frozen in a supermarket. The beers I got weren't even cold. Unnecessary penny pinching by establishments against the consumer for no other reason than greed really pisses me off. The only other logical explanation is that the clubs have to pay hefty bribes to politicians to keep the finer details of legislation on the right side to keep them open.
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Always discuss money before
[QUOTE=Havanite;2200605].................. yet, too much talk of money kills the vibe for me...........[/QUOTE]You better talk of money. On Monday I was interviewing a cute Bulgarian. She was giving all the right answers and pushing all the right buttons, was very amiable and got me hard on the couch. Then we got round to talking of going to the room and when I suggested a half hour 50 euro session she quipped "why you go and spoil it talking of money?" One would have thought that someone of my experience would not have fallen for that but off to the room we romped. Once in the room and naked on the bed entwined with each other she was no longer shy to talk about money and stated that a half hour would be 100 euros and promised all sort of services which I normally get for 50 euros. In earlier times perhaps even as recently as last year I would have had none of that but we live in different times now and I had my first 100 euro half hour session in my hundreds of FKK trysts. To her credit she gave her best and put on a porn star performance which actually does nothing for me, I prefer a girl to demonstrate genuine enjoyment but I allowed her to have her fun.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2200684]You better talk of money.[/QUOTE]Ha don't worry, I'm learning. As I joked with a girl in the Rld, 80 eur. Not bad for an hours work and better than I'll ever make and definitely a far cry from what I was getting in my twenties, I am here to make money she said, and I am here to spend it, we make a good team then so she retorted with a wink which drew a smile from me. So I'm not living in a fantasy land but I don't like being quoted above going rate as a long shot hope on their part or getting straight down to business without a few kind words of conversation, even if they are illusory and nothing more.
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Havanite. Thanks for your informative and helpful report. It is really useful for an old timer like me who has never discussed money or service before going to a room. I may need to adapt
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The "norm"
[QUOTE=Optimist;2200854]Havanite. Thanks for your informative and helpful report. It is really useful for an old timer like me who has never discussed money or service before going to a room. I may need to adapt[/QUOTE]I'the be really interested to know what reception thought of this and the increasing trend towards 100 e /30 min rooms. For example, when I attended Paradise in Stuttgart recently, having been rinsed of my extortionate 75 e entry (I think only Artemis at 80 is higher), I'm told by the woman on reception that the girls are 50/30 , 100/60. So if those are the "club" rates, how are the girls getting away with this? I know after the Artemis raid the policy is very much "the girls are self-employed and you must discuss rates with them", but I'm shocked at a complete lack of intervention by club management. I say this for this reason: I've long argued in many of the ISG forum disputes about the benefits / pro's and con's of Spain as a mongering destination compared to Germany. My view has always been that the overall package in Germany is better. The long afternoons lying in the sun in Oase or Sharks surrounded by a lot of lovely naked girls, the chance to have recovery time / wellness / food / massage / TV sport / or even outdoor football at Oase! But the pricing factor is really starting to make Germany less attractive. 70 into Oase unless you arrive early. Let's say you want to enjoy 4 hours in rooms with girls with breaks in between. If 100/30 becomes the norm, that will lead to 200/60 so 800 for 4 hours, plus entry is 870 without "extras". Makes a day in an FKK VERY expensive. Contrast going to say Diana Park in Madrid. No entry fee, drinks are not expensive and girls are 100/ hour. So 4 hours costs 400. I'm in FKK land next week. I prefer long rooms of 90 minutes or 2 hours and I don't mind paying 100 per hour (the norm). If girls are happy to give great service knowing they are getting 90 minutes or more great. But I only promise long time rooms with girls I know. So new girls I'll do the 50/30 "lets see how we get on" bit. If they are not up for that I'll be having uneventful trips.
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Payforit,
I was explicitly denied a request for an hour room, it's too long to be in a room she told me, we only need a half am hour to do what we need, any more is boring, just proving she doesn't know how to make conversation and driving home the importance of chatting to the girls as much as possible beforehand. I genuinely don't think she realised that men are after some relaxation and alone time with a woman, it's not all about the beast with two backs (well mostly, but not all). So we can add ignorance into the mix as well as greed.
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It all depends on what services you want. If you want kissing or GFE type service (and probably even uncoveredbj), girls use that as reason to extract extra money. Of course chances of this working is high with inexperienced punters (fresh tourists, and the tab depends how fresh and ignorant you seem).
The desk tells you suck and fuck for 50. That keeps it open for charging extras stuff other than Anal or CIM.
If they get you inside to discuss services they probably think chances are you'd comply since they got you in the room. If are not known as a big spender there or just not known, talk the pricing outside the room.
Good report Havanite. Paragraphs would have been nice though.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2200868]If 100/30 becomes the norm, [/QUOTE]If a man is paying 100 for 30 minutes at Oase, then that is the man's fault for being an idiot (assuming no CIM or anal).
It's extremely easy to avoid paying 100 for 30 minutes at Oase. If anyone were ever to ask me for this (and no girls have), then I would just laugh at them.
As you mentioned PayForIt, you like long rooms (as is usually my case). I assure you that most girls at Oase (including many top girls, though admittedly not all) are quite happy to do long rooms with good service for standard rate. In fact, they much prefer long rooms over doing one fifty room after another.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2200889]If a man is paying 100 for 30 minutes at Oase, then that is the man's fault for being an idiot (assuming no CIM or anal).
It's extremely easy to avoid paying 100 for 30 minutes at Oase. If anyone were ever to ask me for this (and no girls have), then I would just laugh at them.
As you mentioned PayForIt, you like long rooms (as is usually my case). I assure you that most girls at Oase (including many top girls, though admittedly not all) are quite happy to do long rooms with good service for standard rate. In fact, they much prefer long rooms over doing one fifty room after another.[/QUOTE]From my own very recent experience at Oase, dating during late June. Very first days of July (I flew away on the the 4th of July, thus avoiding by a thin margin Sharks' Razzia), I cannot agree more with what UH says. I had many 100/60 mins sessions with multiple girls (some girls I've known and sessioned with for 1-2+ years, others brand new try outs) and I always got decent service including BBBJ for as long as I wanted (some did non-stop OWO for 25-30 minutes and sex in any position (s) I wanted without any hassle. Some girls (more of the regulars DFK'd freely), others not or without passion (more of the newer girls). And I met a few girls who tried to upsell during the session, but several of these were NOT Oase regular girls, but new girls "on a trial of Oase" from other clubs like Paradise in Stutgartt. I quickly talked them down by establishing that I was an Oase regular and this kind of BS is not tolerated. Then they backed down immediatlely.
UH is right: Anybody who agrees to pay 100/30 mins, whether in the room or not, is complete idiot. It's all about how you play this game, project yourself as the experienced buyer, who has an infinite choice of other girls, and you will get what you want.
It should be known, also previously stated by UH, that Oase is a challenging club for good services for 50 E /30 mins sessions. It can happen but you need to be either lucky or known / regular.
Having said all that: I generally spent more time at Sharks, despite the issues with hotter rooms (although most days after sun went down the rooms were approaching tolerable), because I generally found better service on average with new girls at Sharks vs Oase. Of course at Oase if you stick with girls you've been with in the past and are established Regular customer, you get all you want for 100/60 minutes.
BBBJ widely available at Oase (and Sharks) without any hassle.
Plus: the LUs are vast at both Oase and Sharks, and (this is important, at least for me): The LUs at both clubs are ever changing and quite fluid both up and down (sometimes depending on certain days) with lots of different girsl from different places/histories/backgrounds coming through these clubs , that sometimes you can get lucky and snag a real gem, but that depends on luck, perception/observation and sometimes going with the flow and not being "a Cheap Charlie." That's the way I see the lay of the land now.
Btw: a real joy to be at these clubs during WC football games: Lots of girls available normally, but with some exceptions.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2200942]From my own very recent experience at Oase, dating during late June, you get all you want for 100/60 minutes.
[/QUOTE]After reading your post Ortos, I feel like you could have been ghost-writing for me. It sounds like we are of one mind on these points.
The only point we differ on is that for me, being relatively unknown at Sharks (except for the former Oase girls and their close friends), I have a higher probability of accidentally stepping on a land-mine over there. But that is part of the game, going through the line-up and figuring out who to avoid. Of course, the act of going through the line-up so-to-speak quickly establishes one's reputation in a club and reduces the number of land-mines in any case. The only part of Sharks that I really miss is the Asian food counter. I love that shit!
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2200949]Ortos has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.[/QUOTE]OOOOOOOOOOOOOps.
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[QUOTE=Havanite;2200605]Around 6:30 while taking cover from the heat outside two young ladies from Moldova approached me trying to tempt me with a threesome, once it was clear I was not interested one of them cleared off, I went to room with her remaining friend Tanya, who as soon as in the room expressed her disdain at my action of checking the time on my watch, bad omen right there. [/QUOTE]I have had this exact same experience with Moldovan girls. I was in one of the other clubs in Frankfurt a while back (Sharks, I think) and my new Moldovan friend got super offended that I looked at my watch. I wonder if it was the same girl.
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Crazy lady
[QUOTE=Havanite;2200871]Payforit,
I was explicitly denied a request for an hour room, it's too long to be in a room she told me, we only need a half am hour to do what we need, any more is boring, just proving she doesn't know how to make conversation and driving home the importance of chatting to the girls as much as possible beforehand. I genuinely don't think she realised that men are after some relaxation and alone time with a woman, it's not all about the beast with two backs (well mostly, but not all). So we can add ignorance into the mix as well as greed.[/QUOTE]How odd! Girls wanting 30 minutes instead of longer sessions equates to earning less money unless she is a stunner who is occupied all day and night! Also, most girls like long rooms because they know for a certainty that guys are not going to be able to withstand constant BJ and / or fucking for very long. So long rooms give their pussies some rest whereas constant 30 min rooms means a lot of hammering. So really odd. I'm afraid if I was refused a one hour room by anyone they'the be getting 50/30 or a quick "thanks but no thanks" and I'the be tempted to add "I'm looking for a girl who wants to make a lot of money for a fantastic time. Not a quick fuck and suck".
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2201029]How odd! Girls wanting 30 minutes instead of longer sessions equates to earning less money unless she is a stunner who is occupied all day and night! Also, most girls like long rooms because they know for a certainty that guys are not going to be able to withstand constant BJ and / or fucking for very long. So long rooms give their pussies some rest whereas constant 30 min rooms means a lot of hammering. So really odd. I'm afraid if I was refused a one hour room by anyone they'the be getting 50/30 or a quick "thanks but no thanks" and I'the be tempted to add "I'm looking for a girl who wants to make a lot of money for a fantastic time. Not a quick fuck and suck".[/QUOTE]I'm a 20-minute, 50-euro man, and I have felt relatively welcome at FKKs, with 100% of the sessioned girls willing to repeat. When there has been no repeat it has been on my account. Of late I've tipped my regulars 10 or 20 euros though, de facto aknowledgeing a price increase.
Note that while hammering is taking place a girl can stay passive. What tires girls out I think is endless sucking. Hammering with proper lubrication may be little different to her than sucking her thumb.
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I think you do encounter a fair number of girls in Oase who are at least indifferent between a 50 e30 m and 100 e60 m, if not outright preferring the former. I am no Oase expert, but in my limited sampling, it felt this way. Now, if you are a Oase King like UH, you most likely will not even encounter such ladies. But for a tourist like me this might not be uncommon. Why would a girl prefer 50 e30 m? Because if she chooses judiciously (Asians), she could process them in 10 M? She might not want to kiss, provide BBBJ or DATY, all of which could be expected in 100 e60 M, and it is also possible that a 60 M customer who likes to kiss and do DATY etc might drag it out all the way to 58th min.
A lot of this depends on the individual girl's own business model, preferences, and her confidence in being to conclude 30 M sessions pretty fast. If every single one of her 30 M sessions lasted upto the 29th min, she might over time change her model to 100 e60 m, but if she is successful in concluding 30 m sessions by 15th min most of the time, she could feel differently.
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Your arguments makes sense Jnpr, and it seems like there are a few girls like that in other clubs. But at Oase I still haven't met a single one who prefers 30 minutes only.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2201054]I think you do encounter a fair number of girls in Oase who are at least indifferent between a 50 e30 m and 100 e60 m, if not outright preferring the former. I am no Oase expert, but in my limited sampling, it felt this way. Now, if you are a Oase King like UH, you most likely will not even encounter such ladies. But for a tourist like me this might not be uncommon. Why would a girl prefer 50 e30 m? Because if she chooses judiciously (Asians), she could process them in 10 M? She might not want to kiss, provide BBBJ or DATY, all of which could be expected in 100 e60 M, and it is also possible that a 60 M customer who likes to kiss and do DATY etc might drag it out all the way to 58th min.
A lot of this depends on the individual girl's own business model, preferences, and her confidence in being to conclude 30 M sessions pretty fast. If every single one of her 30 M sessions lasted upto the 29th min, she might over time change her model to 100 e60 m, but if she is successful in concluding 30 m sessions by 15th min most of the time, she could feel differently.[/QUOTE]The smart girl is always looking for the 200-400 E session with the wealthy gentleman. I have seen girls fight over a guy.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2201054]....A lot of this depends on the individual girl's own business model, preferences, and her confidence in being to conclude 30 M sessions pretty fast. If every single one of her 30 M sessions lasted upto the 29th min, she might over time change her model to 100 e60 m, but if she is successful in concluding 30 m sessions by 15th min most of the time, she could feel differently.[/QUOTE]This sums up the time dynamics pretty well. Speaking for myself I like a girl to feel confident she can process me in 15 minutes. It gives her an incentive to be good and go for the kill. It's a win win situation. It works for me as I am not into things that are time-dependent like girl-friend, having a relationship, small talk etc. What I want is consensual reype. If I could get 10-minute sessions for 30 euros at FKKs I'd go for them.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2201033]........................Note that while hammering is taking place a girl can stay passive. What tires girls out I think is endless sucking. Hammering with proper lubrication may be little different to her than sucking her thumb.[/QUOTE]In my case the girls always prefer to BBBJ me than FS. Recently I went with a Romanian for a half hour 50 euro session; Datyd her then BBBJ and after about 10 minutes requested FS and she said "What, so soon?" She wanted to continue BBBJ. Happens most of the time with me.
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Well the girl was getting 50 extra for CIM so her business model is probably to get back out hustling as soon as possible once the 100 eur benchmark has been hit, and no one easier to work this on than a fly in non regular.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2201073]Your arguments makes sense Jnpr, and it seems like there are a few girls like that in other clubs. But at Oase I still haven't met a single one who prefers 30 minutes only.[/QUOTE]I am just a tourist and not a regular like you and UH so I will leave it to you experts. Somehow that's the impression I got. Estephania offered me 30 M with CIM and other goodies included for 100. I countered with 60 M100 e normal goodies no CIM, and she had no interest. And she is a girl I sessioned with multiple times in Sharks and she recognized me in Oase before I spotted her.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2201121]In my case the girls always prefer to BBBJ me than FS. Recently I went with a Romanian for a half hour 50 euro session; Datyd her then BBBJ and after about 10 minutes requested FS and she said "What, so soon?" She wanted to continue BBBJ. Happens most of the time with me.[/QUOTE]Then they save vagina and try to get CIM extra. Oase little girls technique, who finish tourists in less than 15 mn for 100 after CIM, without being fucked. Like this, they can make 300 in 1 hour, without being fucked, better business than at Globe.
I remember my exceptional German escort, I fucked for 2h30/3 h for 3 rounds, from beginning of December to February. She never said: stop, I knew when she was exhausted, then her vagina closed and I had to open her with my fingers. Highest stamina and sportiest ever met, and what a sweet GF with her eyes asking: love me. I met her every week ends, once or twice, she cancelled many appointments after our meetings, saying to her management she didn't want to work after. I really wish her to become free. My best level for sex, just a bit of lack of charm compare to some Romanian woman types, even she is a 1,77 model type.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2201287]Then they save vagina and try to get CIM extra. Oase little girls technique, who finish tourists in less than 15 mn for 100 after CIM, without being fucked. Like this, they can make 300 in 1 hour, without being fucked, better business than at Globe.
I remember my exceptional German escort, I fucked for 2h30/3 h for 3 rounds, from beginning of December to February. She never said: stop, I knew when she was exhausted, then her vagina closed and I had to open her with my fingers. Highest stamina and sportiest ever met, and what a sweet GF with her eyes asking: love me. I met her every week ends, once or twice, she cancelled many appointments after our meetings, saying to her management she didn't want to work after. I really wish her to become free. My best level for sex, just a bit of lack of charm compare to some Romanian woman types, even she is a 1,77 model type.[/QUOTE]German providers are my favorites at FKKs. Most allow a really good pounding.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2201218]I am just a tourist and not a regular like you and UH so I will leave it to you experts. Somehow that's the impression I got. Estephania offered me 30 M with CIM and other goodies included for 100. I countered with 60 M100 e normal goodies no CIM, and she had no interest. And she is a girl I sessioned with multiple times in Sharks and she recognized me in Oase before I spotted her.[/QUOTE]I see nothing in your first post indicating a comparison between a 100 e 30 min session and a 100 1 HR session.
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At Oase now. Exactly the same place it was 3 months ago. Pretty much the same cast too. More new girls would be nice, but for now, it's still one of my favorites.
Lara, Carla, Sara, Adele (short), Estephania, Cheyenne, Heidi, Emma were some of the top lookers. Few other thin bodied Romanians that I never bothered getting their name.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2201533]At Oase now. Exactly the same place it was 3 months ago. Pretty much the same cast too. More new girls would be nice, but for now, it's still one of my favorites.
Lara, Carla, Sara, Adele (short), Estephania, Cheyenne, Heidi, Emma were some of the top lookers. Few other thin bodied Romanians that I never bothered getting their name.[/QUOTE]Estephania (with glasses) can't take a good pounding.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2201054]I think you do encounter a fair number of girls in Oase who are at least indifferent between a 50 e30 m and 100 e60 m, if not outright preferring the former. [/QUOTE]Guys,
Have summed this up well. There are girls that will normally refuse 30 m bookings unless they will get a 100+ or are confident that they can do 10 to 15 minutes. No girl will ever offer me 30 minutes for 50 unless that is all she has time for.
Girls turn on the better service for guys spending more, regardless of the time, is what I see in general. Others made the point that girls want to limit the vagina time. They don't want to be actually pounded for well over 30 minutes. So 30 minutes for 100+ is absolutely ideal for them or 2 hours for 250 is also good, assuming actual fucking time is not too much. My numbers assume CIM charge.
The guy who told me he got his money's worth by fucking a girl in the ass for the entire hour (costing 200), is regularly refused by many girls. Just too much hard work.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2201086]This sums up the time dynamics pretty well. Speaking for myself I like a girl to feel confident she can process me in 15 minutes. It gives her an incentive to be good and go for the kill. It's a win win situation. It works for me as I am not into things that are time-dependent like girl-friend, having a relationship, small talk etc. What I want is consensual reype. If I could get 10-minute sessions for 30 euros at FKKs I'd go for them.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. Way too much talk here of spending hours upon hours with these girls.
Much better to point out the 30 minute girls that are a great fuck.
Otherwise, might as well get in a relationship.
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[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;2201774]Totally agree. Way too much talk here of spending hours upon hours with these girls.
Much better to point out the 30 minute girls that are a great fuck.
Otherwise, might as well get in a relationship.[/QUOTE]Is fucking not a kind of relation ship.
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[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;2201774]Totally agree. Way too much talk here of spending hours upon hours with these girls.
Much better to point out the 30 minute girls that are a great fuck.
Otherwise, might as well get in a relationship.[/QUOTE]From 30 minute rooms to 2 hour rooms, they all have value if you are in the mood. You can do a lot in 2 hours without wasting time only talking or doing relationship-like things. But a 10-15 minute half time break in a 2 hour session can be worth it. Foreplay, sucking titties, eatting pussy, fast sex mixed with slow sex in all different positions. That's a good 2 hours well spent if you have the conditioning for it. 1.5 hours full of those activities is my sweet spot. Otherwise 30 minute fuck and nuts are also fun but not at all nearly as memorable. Hard to find those good 30 minute girls at Oase. But they make great 1 and 2 hour rooms for 100 and 200 of course.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2201033]
Note that while hammering is taking place a girl can stay passive. What tires girls out I think is endless sucking. Hammering with proper lubrication may be little different to her than sucking her thumb.[/QUOTE]You do thumbs a disservice!
I'the like to think a hammering amounts to a little more impact than a girl sucking her thumb. But the following comments are interesting and I can see the argument for a girl preferring 30/50 sessions if the guy is happy to cum in 10-20 minutes. Easy work. I've posted before that Katrina has an incredible set of vaginal muscles that can pull you to orgasm in minutes. Not my kinda session but she is expert at it and I've actually had to stop fucking and withdraw for fear of an embarrassingly early finish. And I normally take ages. In the same way as we all like different foods, and girls, it's good that we all have different likes / dislikes.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2201533]At Oase now. Exactly the same place it was 3 months ago. Pretty much the same cast too. More new girls would be nice, but for now, it's still one of my favorites.
Lara, Carla, Sara, Adele (short), Estephania, Cheyenne, Heidi, Emma were some of the top lookers. Few other thin bodied Romanians that I never bothered getting their name.[/QUOTE]Can add a few well known names to your list of girls present this past weekend: adele (tall), Laura, Brianna, Christina, Alena (new brunette girl who also has a blonde friend with a name starting with an a).
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2202033]You do thumbs a disservice!
I'the like to think a hammering amounts to a little more impact than a girl sucking her thumb. But the following comments are interesting and I can see the argument for a girl preferring 30/50 sessions if the guy is happy to cum in 10-20 minutes. Easy work. I've posted before that Katrina has an incredible set of vaginal muscles that can pull you to orgasm in minutes. Not my kinda session but she is expert at it and I've actually had to stop fucking and withdraw for fear of an embarrassingly early finish. And I normally take ages. In the same way as we all like different foods, and girls, it's good that we all have different likes / dislikes.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Do you pay for what, just a small advice don't think too much, most of the girls are pimped or married probably 80 percent or more and they just want to suck as much cash as possible from our pocket.
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Public Service Announcement
I would advise against any of the following at Oase: Blond Vanessa (with bolt-ONS), Brianna (brunette), and Amelia (brunette).
All 3 are long-time girls at Oase. Well known for bad attitude and poor service. No new information here. Just posting as a reminder.
If you go with one of these girls and find yourself disappointed, don't say I didn't warn you!
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I've had 2 OK sessions with Brianna. The first one was better 2 years ago. Seems she has turned a bit more cold now. She has a sexy figure, but lack of passion unfortunately. No kissing.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2202165]I would advise against any of the following at Oase: Blond Vanessa (with bolt-ONS), Brianna (brunette), and Amelia (brunette).
All 3 are long-time girls at Oase. Well known for bad attitude and poor service. No new information here. Just posting as a reminder.
If you go with one of these girls and find yourself disappointed, don't say I didn't warn you![/QUOTE]Quite right to issue this warning, and you could probably extend the list of no-go girls if you really wanted to, etc. However, these girls are so blatantly, so obviously bad performers --I mean if you interview them properly with even cursory dialogue and interaction, of course before you agree to any talk of maybe going to Zimmer together-- and they practically broadcast the fact that they will not be too very intimate in the room with you that even without reading your warning post first, you'd have to be a complete novice or completely insensitive to a girl's sharky vibes if you did agree to the room in the first place.
I mean, you should be able to have some mutual touching, caressing and feeling each other plus other forms of physical chemistry BEFORE you go to the room, right? Try touching a girl intimately during a pre-Zimmer chat with Brianna, for example? Are you getting anything back? No way, she just jumps a short distance away and tries to prempt pre-Zimmer physical contact. There are cadres of girls like this that you'll meet and deal with throughout time and multiple clubs and club visits. They show their hands too easy, you know their true colour, if you are perceptive and have any kind of GFE-radar. It's pretty easy to figure girls like these out, before you go to the room, if you just think about it and act accordingly in situ, which means you think with more than your "little head." At least that is my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2202348]Quite right to issue this warning, and you could probably extend the list of no-go girls if you really wanted to, etc. However, these girls are so blatantly, so obviously bad performers --I mean if you interview them properly with even cursory dialogue and interaction, of course before you agree to any talk of maybe going to Zimmer together-- and they practically broadcast the fact that they will not be too very intimate in the room with you that even without reading your warning post first, you'd have to be a complete novice or completely insensitive to a girl's sharky vibes if you did agree to the room in the first place.
I mean, you should be able to have some mutual touching, caressing and feeling each other plus other forms of physical chemistry BEFORE you go to the room, right? Try touching a girl intimately during a pre-Zimmer chat with Brianna, for example? Are you getting anything back? No way, she just jumps a short distance away and tries to prempt pre-Zimmer physical contact. There are cadres of girls like this that you'll meet and deal with throughout time and multiple clubs and club visits. They show their hands too easy, you know their true colour, if you are perceptive and have any kind of GFE-radar. It's pretty easy to figure girls like these out, before you go to the room, if you just think about it and act accordingly in situ, which means you think with more than your "little head." At least that is my opinion.[/QUOTE]Thanks but better to blacklisting all the Oase, no need to go there.
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The Universal Rule
In P4P there is a universal rule which is the hotter the babe the worse the service. One has to be satisfied that in FKKs one has access to penetrate the hottest providers on the planet.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2202398]In P4P there is a universal rule which is the hotter the babe the worse the service. One has to be satisfied that in FKKs one has access to penetrate the hottest providers on the planet.[/QUOTE]And there are always the exceptions to the "universal rule. " That's a fun rule to break and it might happen more than you expect.
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Brand new model faced Russian girl at Oase, Nadia. 21 yo slim with 165 cm, small boobs. She says she'll be here for 2 months before school starts, LOL. She's not super experienced but her orgasms are wet and real.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2202398]In P4P there is a universal rule which is the hotter the babe the worse the service.[/QUOTE]Not true. I have had extraordinary sessions with very very beautiful girls in many clubs.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2202398]In P4P there is a universal rule which is the hotter the babe the worse the service. One has to be satisfied that in FKKs one has access to penetrate the hottest providers on the planet.[/QUOTE]And the reason for this is simple. One pretty girl told me not too long ago: 'I don't need to do that. People still wants to go with me all the time'.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2202436]Brand new model faced Russian girl at Oase, Nadia. 21 yo slim with 165 cm, small boobs. She says she'll be here for 2 months before school starts, LOL. She's not super experienced but her orgasms are wet and real.[/QUOTE]Update on newbie Nadia: Took one day for her to get indoctrinated into Oase culture. Withheld services on day 2 because her "friend" told her the "real prices. " Got the impression that she knows she is a top tier Mon-Tue girl. She might drop her ego a little when the varsity team shows up on Wednesdays and the weekend.
First room. Responsive, kisses, long sex.
Second room. Fast blowjob, fast position changes, detached sex.
She attempted to warm up when I expressed displeasure so kudos for that. Anyway, she's still hot and sweet but limited in skill and hard fuck potential. Worth a go since she is a rare true amateur.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2202437]Not true. I have had extraordinary sessions with very very beautiful girls in many clubs.[/QUOTE]On the other hand, if you are extremely handsome and loaded you will always have extraordinary sessions with very very hot babes, p4p or otherwise.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2202398]In P4P there is a universal rule which is the hotter the babe the worse the service. One has to be satisfied that in FKKs one has access to penetrate the hottest providers on the planet.[/QUOTE]For my experiences, the prettiest are the best in bed, when you treat them like princesses, they are so surprised. I go only for the prettiest for my eyes, I don't pay for GND.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2202579]On the other hand, if you are extremely handsome and loaded you will always have extraordinary sessions with very very hot babes, p4p or otherwise.[/QUOTE]Now that you mention it. LOL. Must be my looks and charm as I am a cheap stingy German.
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Black lady Teresa
I might be in Frankfurt end of July or beginning of August and I could give OASE another try for sure because I kind of miss it. Can anybody tell me if black girl Teresa is still working there or has she moved on?
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2202622]I might be in Frankfurt end of July or beginning of August and I could give OASE another try for sure because I kind of miss it. Can anybody tell me if black girl Teresa is still working there or has she moved on?[/QUOTE]Not at Oase anymore. She was at World but she left from there also. Heard something about ROM.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2202348] Try touching a girl intimately during a pre-Zimmer chat with Brianna, for example? Are you getting anything back? No way, she just jumps a short distance away and tries to prempt pre-Zimmer physical contact. [/QUOTE]Two years ago Brianna was not like that. I recall she approached me in the cinema area maybe 10 times in 2 or 3 visits and spent a long time trying to get a sale from me. I did her once back then. No kissing though, as she was strict with that, but seemed very much into it otherwise aside from the fact she claimed my dick was too big. Now she had no issues with my dick (more opened up now with longer than small Romanian dick experiences), but seems more cold in the lounge. I just got the impression it was more due to her not being new any longer, and she just have to cheer up. Many girls have mood swings from day to day too. Probably won't repeat her though due to competition at Oase, and her no kissing attitude. Unless she changes again.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2202579]On the other hand, if you are extremely handsome and loaded you will always have extraordinary sessions with very very hot babes, p4p or otherwise.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention: Respect and Empathy.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2202634]Not at Oase anymore. She was at World but she left from there also. Heard something about ROM.[/QUOTE]I sesssioned her in Oase in January, body is nice but extreme pussy smell due to no proper washing, she needs to improve or she will have to leave all the clubs.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2202534]Update on newbie Nadia: Took one day for her to get indoctrinated into Oase culture. Withheld services on day 2 because her "friend" told her the "real prices. " Got the impression that she knows she is a top tier Mon-Tue girl. She might drop her ego a little when the varsity team shows up on Wednesdays and the weekend.
First room. Responsive, kisses, long sex.
Second room. Fast blowjob, fast position changes, detached sex.
She attempted to warm up when I expressed displeasure so kudos for that. Anyway, she's still hot and sweet but limited in skill and hard fuck potential. Worth a go since she is a rare true amateur.[/QUOTE]I never experienced her, I don't know if she is really Russian but easy to check if she really speaks Russian, because only Russians in FKK land are not able to speak Russian, but sad to read a fresh in mind girl becomes so fast bullshit by upselling girls who are used to fuck tourists. Many girls like this at Oase, they are not interesting for me, I m too poor to be fucked.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2202754]....................... a fresh in mind girl becomes so fast bullshit by upselling girls who are used to fuck tourists. Many girls like this at Oase, they are not interesting for me, I m too poor to be fucked.[/QUOTE]Since May I have pounded many hot girls at Oase for 20 minutes in 50 euro half hour sessions. It is good that other punters romance them so that they could be less inclined to upsell.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2202437]Not true. I have had extraordinary sessions with very very beautiful girls in many clubs.[/QUOTE]Who hasnt?
Exceptions to every rule, But I am with Turgid on this; In p4 p the world over, The hotter the girl, the worst the "service".
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2202634]Not at Oase anymore. She was at World but she left from there also. Heard something about ROM.[/QUOTE]Please help me out: what is ROM?
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[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;2202886]Who hasnt?
Exceptions to every rule, But I am with Turgid on this; In p4 p the world over, The hotter the girl, the worst the "service".[/QUOTE]In my opinion it is rather so that the less attractive the higher the chance that she will be very greatful in bed. I agree that gorgeous girls may provide just as well as others and it depends on the character and the circumstances.
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Performance vs looks
Let's not forget that poor-looking girls who perform badly get selected out of the pool. I can remember a few below average girls who were scammers. By the laws of natural selection such girls shouldn't last long. Therefore we are left with only the poorer looking ones who have been able to maintain their customer base through good performance.
A good-looking poor performer on the other hand can continue to work. This skews the perspective.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2202935]Please help me out: what is ROM?[/QUOTE][URL]https://fkk-rom.de/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2202881]Since May I have pounded many hot girls at Oase for 20 minutes in 50 euro half hour sessions. It is good that other punters romance them so that they could be less inclined to upsell.[/QUOTE]On my last visit on end of June, even I was happy to see so lovely Lora, I know since February 2014 at Sharks when I chose Isabella, back, and always friendly Juicy, but didn't find any hot look girl who worth I paid for, without heels and seeing face skin in sunlight without make up in the garden, so I left to return to Samya where I found prettier and classier looks.
We don t have all same eyes and demanding level for looks, I don t want to pay for girls I would not go for free in real life, I'm not so desperate to have sex, I prefer to drive back to Paris with full balls, even car is heavier and less fast.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2202940]Let's not forget that poor-looking girls who perform badly get selected out of the pool. I can remember a few below average girls who were scammers. By the laws of natural selection such girls shouldn't last long. Therefore we are left with only the poorer looking ones who have been able to maintain their customer base through good performance.
A good-looking poor performer on the other hand can continue to work. This skews the perspective.[/QUOTE]Very good viewpoint; however, I've been taxing my memory and I cannot think of one ugly girl who has ever given me bad service. Indeed, beauty lies in the eye of the beholder and what I may consider average another might think of as ugly. For convenience sake I will divide girls' looks into three categories – hot, average and ugly. I have had a few average girls who have provided poor service but a greater percentage of hot girls who have given me regrettable service. That is not to say that I have not had a few beautiful providers who have performed adeptly in bed.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2202881]Since May I have pounded many hot girls at Oase for 20 minutes in 50 euro half hour sessions. It is good that other punters romance them so that they could be less inclined to upsell.[/QUOTE]Sure. No kissing, short BJ and pounding her. 20 min. Done. You'll get that from all girls at all clubs.
DFK, DATY, BJ, Sex in multiple positions no starfish, 30 min for 50€ - that's a bit harder to find.
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Agreed!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2202991]Very good viewpoint; however, I've been taxing my memory and I cannot think of one ugly girl who has ever given me bad service. Indeed, beauty lies in the eye of the beholder and what I may consider average another might think of as ugly. For convenience sake I will divide girls' looks into three categories hot, average and ugly. I have had a few average girls who have provided poor service but a greater percentage of hot girls who have given me regrettable service. That is not to say that I have not had a few beautiful providers who have performed adeptly in bed.[/QUOTE]Although, I have to say that I really can't comment from experience about ugly girls since I don't even talk to them, let alone fuck them haha! No, I don't even give them a chance LOL!
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2202634]Not at Oase anymore. She was at World but she left from there also. Heard something about ROM.[/QUOTE]What was the name of very smiling, black supermodel type? Really pretty, at Sharks on end of 2017, but, despite her smiles, I was not able to go with her, when I'm pretty sure she would have been great time in bed. Not seen on my June Sharks visits.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2202992]........DFK, DATY, BJ, Sex in multiple positions no starfish, 30 min for 50 - that's a bit harder to find.[/QUOTE]I have got that but have to work a little harder these days to get it at FKKs. Perhaps the girls talk and word has gotten around about the size of my member and my penchant for hard pounding in different positions. In Latin America that works in my favor.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2202999]Although, I have to say that I really can't comment from experience about ugly girls since I don't even talk to them, let alone fuck them haha! No, I don't even give them a chance LOL![/QUOTE]In most cases chemistry moreso than looks gets me going. I have had excellent sessions with downright ugly girls (they must have good bodies with rotund bundas though). Very long hard banging enjoyable in doggy and other positions. In mish just put a pillow over the face, don't stifle them though, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2203021]In most cases chemistry moreso than looks gets me going. I have had excellent sessions with downright ugly girls (they must have good bodies with rotund bundas though). Very long hard banging enjoyable in doggy and other positions. In mish just put a pillow over the face, don't stifle them though, LOL.[/QUOTE]Can't compete with you, can t enjoy a girl if I have to put a pillow on her face, can't enjoy sex if I don't enjoy to kiss her. Then I prefer to leave with my heavy full balls. I don't need this level of sex.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2203021]In most cases chemistry moreso than looks gets me going. I have had excellent sessions with downright ugly girls (they must have good bodies with rotund bundas though). Very long hard banging enjoyable in doggy and other positions. In mish just put a pillow over the face, don't stifle them though, LOL.[/QUOTE]Everyone has is own opinion about sex and erotic, for me beauty is the only driver so easy in the real life to fuck ugly girls for free.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2202992]Sure. No kissing, short BJ and pounding her. 20 min. Done. You'll get that from all girls at all clubs.
DFK, DATY, BJ, Sex in multiple positions no starfish, 30 min for 50 - that's a bit harder to find.[/QUOTE]I bought a two hour entry and was hugely disappointed. Every girl I spoke to gave me a menu of extras and had interest only in money, not in providing good service. As I expect DFK and DATY and a personality right from a 50 euro first session I was clearly in the wrong place. I think one needs to be a regular at Oase and to adopt the KK strategy (see the thread for Mainhatten).
I went with plenty of money to spend and expecting to extend my visit, but I was so turned off by the attitude I came home with my money. These girls don't seem to understand there is more to business relationships. They said that if I want a service I must pay because I want it, and were unwilling to provide any goodwill. I told them that fuck and suck was really boring. I even took a girl to a room and didn't ask her to do anything, but she had no idea how to relate. My FKK visits are getting cheaper and cheaper and less rewarding.
I did however bump into an old scammer, who I like very much, so something was salvaged. She provided in public all the services she used to provide in the past.
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Collusion?
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2202992]Sure. No kissing, short BJ and pounding her. 20 min. Done. You'll get that from all girls at all clubs.
DFK, DATY, BJ, Sex in multiple positions no starfish, 30 min for 50 - that's a bit harder to find.[/QUOTE]These Romanian girls, although independent contractors, have apparently colluded and are putting their heels down on this one. You might find exceptions, but most know they can get their way. I know in my country a 50/30 would get you a girl who would likely have STD's and drug problems. You wouldn't want to DFK her and certainly not go DATY.
As what I suppose would be considered a big spender in these clubs, I don't have problems. I only go with one girl (usually for several hours), get a total GFE with extras, and everything is determined up front. I love the service I receive, every time. All of these complaints baffle me.
Oh, and to respond to another post, no ugly girls! But bless them and I am glad somebody is taking care of them! LOL! I just can't go there. These clubs are about fantasy fulfilment and that doesn't include ugly girls for me.
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Most guys don't session with a girl they find unattractive -- I don't, for sure. So, by definition, all the girls I ask for a session are girls that I personally find quite attractive. Perhaps some of them are more attractive than others, but if I like the optics of a girl, regardless of her reputation I will ask for a session.
As such, I think this inverse relationship between looks and service is tough to ascertain. If I never take someone with looks below 7, I can't really vouch that a 5 would give better service than my 7 or 9. I just would n't know.
Does a 7 on looks *always* give a better service than a 9 on looks? I don't think so. There are plenty of 8's and 9's who gave better service than 7's -- and vice versa.
It is like claiming someone who is less smart in your workplace is necessarily a more hard working person, because he has to compensate his lack of smarts with better work ethic. That is not always true. Neither is the looks to service inverse relationship in clubs.
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Upstate Mann. Yes of course there is collusion. The romanian girls have always been good at enforcing peer established norms (of course, I generalise). Oase itself supports this pricing structure at the Front Desk.
You say you are baffled by these "complaints". I am not sure why. You explain that you come from somewhere where you get nothing much good for 50 euros, so you are importing those values.
Being a high spender is not relevant to the point being made. For example, I have frequently paid a couple of thousand to or so to whoever is my current favourite, but this is not relevant. My turn off is that I do not want a menu all agreed up front as you like to do. I look for a personal interaction which develops its own course, rather than picking standard dishes from a set menu. A mercenary attitude by a girl seems to me to be the same as going with an ugly girl is for you.
I hope this helps explain.
Cheers.
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Upstate. I just reread my post and realise it comes across a bit strident. Apologies for that. It was meant to be a polite reply.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2203043]I bought a two hour entry and was hugely disappointed. Every girl I spoke to gave me a menu of extras and had interest only in money, not in providing good service. As I expect DFK and DATY and a personality right from a 50 euro first session I was clearly in the wrong place. I think one needs to be a regular at Oase and to adopt the KK strategy (see the thread for Mainhatten).
I went with plenty of money to spend and expecting to extend my visit, but I was so turned off by the attitude I came home with my money. These girls don't seem to understand there is more to business relationships. They said that if I want a service I must pay because I want it, and were unwilling to provide any goodwill. I told them that fuck and suck was really boring. I even took a girl to a room and didn't ask her to do anything, but she had no idea how to relate. My FKK visits are getting cheaper and cheaper and less rewarding.
I did however bump into an old scammer, who I like very much, so something was salvaged. She provided in public all the services she used to provide in the past.[/QUOTE]KK strategy, may be but still a big question mark for me, knowing that he needs to take so much Viagra to session his girls.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2203043]As I expect DFK and DATY and a personality right from a 50 euro first session I was clearly in the wrong place. I think one needs to be a regular at Oase and to adopt the KK strategy (see the thread for Mainhatten).
[/QUOTE]Isn't KK's strategy to empty his balls at daycare prior to going to mainstream club to swim with sharks? Being sperm depleted makes it easier for me to walk away from deals I don't like at least.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2203043]
I went with plenty of money to spend and expecting to extend my visit, but I was so turned off by the attitude I came home with my money. These girls don't seem to understand there is more to business relationships. They said that if I want a service I must pay because I want it, and were unwilling to provide any goodwill.[/QUOTE]They expect Goodwill from customer. Agreeing to a 100+ EUR session ahead of time for a WG you just met. That or establish enough social proof as someone the WGs know consistently spends well.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2203203]Isn't KK's strategy to empty his balls at daycare prior to going to mainstream club to swim with sharks? Being sperm depleted makes it easier for me to walk away from deals I don't like at least.
They expect Goodwill from customer. Agreeing to a 100+ EUR session ahead of time for a WG you just met. That or establish enough social proof as someone the WGs know consistently spends well.[/QUOTE]I know perfectly well how to establish goodwill. And it doesn't involve giving a salesperson whatever they ask.
Sorry if my mild ironic self made going at the beginning of my quoted texted a bit ohscure
I just did a report on how it went on an occasion when the normal methods are not available.
Agreeing to 100 in advance is not right for me. I follow UltraHappys approach: I make my mind up as the session progresses.
As for KK I think you need to read the post I referenced. You are incorrect about what he says in that post
As for walking away from deals I don't like, I have no problem with that lol
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Sorry. "Self mocking" not self made. I really must watch predictive text.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2203203]Isn't KK's strategy to empty his balls at daycare prior to going to mainstream club to swim with sharks? Being sperm depleted makes it easier for me to walk away from deals I don't like at least.
[/QUOTE]I rarely do two clubs in a day but a few times I have gone to Day Care early and than gone to Sharks or Mainhatten. Or the reverse. As I have gotten to know and befriend many of the Germans we often see each other in mainstream club, I stole that plan out of the the locals playbook. In fact I like to steal from others playbooks sometimes. As Optimist said my gameplan he references is not the above but I did with the help of Russian hackers got in to your computer to read your playbook as there is one play I may plan to steal, or simply borrow if the situation and environment are both there so I can be best prepared.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2203207]As for walking away from deals I don't like, I have no problem with that lol[/QUOTE]Neither do I and level of sperm is irrelevant. I do not care how many of those things are swimming around pressuring me inside, if a deal isn't good I walk period! If one needs a low level of sperm to be able to say ' no' it is kind of like riding a bike with training wheels. One should be able to ride that bike at all times with no aid from training wheels or biological depletion of DNA. McAdonis, I give you more credit than you stated for yourself, I think you could by now walk from a deal regardless of your level of sperm, just ' get up and say no thank you'; pretty easy. That play is out of my playbook and free of charge since I stole a play from you!
IMO.
However, what floats one guys boat may not another, as long as we all have fun. I hate to say it Optimist but you are just a senior monger who has lost his marbles and I am simply an over the hill middle aged loser, We have no clue what we are doing!
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2203114]As such, I think this inverse relationship between looks and service is tough to ascertain. If I never take someone with looks below 7, I can't really vouch that a 5 would give better service than my 7 or 9. I just would n't know.
Does a 7 on looks *always* give a better service than a 9 on looks? I don't think so. There are plenty of 8's and 9's who gave better service than 7's -- and vice versa.
It is like claiming someone who is less smart in your workplace is necessarily a more hard working person, because he has to compensate his lack of smarts with better work ethic. That is not always true. Neither is the looks to service inverse relationship in clubs.[/QUOTE]Yes, thankfully it is not always true. I have even heard of optical 5's who did horrible service, while at the same club a 9 was fantastic. But with a short few, being pretty serves as a cushion of being a bit more reserved. They are a minority at least, but I know one or two without mentioning names. At the same time, there might be angry looking girls who have lower optics and are more reserved in the room due to being angry.
But if anyone feels like making a macro study on this, please do.
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KK. You do me too much credit. I doubt I ever had my marbles.
Each to his own game, with or without marbles.
Senior mongers are almost by definition marbleless lol
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2203275]KK. You do me too much credit. I doubt I ever had my marbles.
Each to his own game, with or without marbles.
Senior mongers are almost by definition marbleless lol[/QUOTE]I happen to be old school and always found that learning from those my senior and observing and listening to the locals in any market I go to will yield the best results in my own experiences. I sure have learned a lot from you so if you feel your marbles are lost, missing, defective or not functioning properly please send them to Day Care for me and I will implant them in my head there. My training wheels stopped working, I am too old!
And will you please call that devious Queen of yours and get her back in the Lineup, with Jessy headed on holiday your Queen's character and charisma is much needed to make that atmosphere what it should be. Too many guys reporting shit service and attitudes now at Day Care, they must have all gone on the rag the same week it looks like.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2203273]
I do not care how many of those things are swimming around pressuring me inside, if a deal isn't good I walk period! If one needs a low level of sperm to be able to say ' no' it is kind of like riding a bike with training wheels. One should be able to ride that bike at all times with no aid from training wheels or biological depletion of DNA. [/QUOTE]Probably one of the best things I've read on this forum in a long time!
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2203285]I happen to be old school and always found that learning from those my senior and observing and listening to the locals in any market I go to will yield the best results in my own experiences. I sure have learned a lot from you so if you feel your marbles are lost, missing, defective or not functioning properly please send them to Day Care for me and I will implant them in my head there. My training wheels stopped working, I am too old!
[/QUOTE]Are you sure this is not a direct quote from Donald (Duck) Trump during his "secret 1 on 1 meeting" with Putin in Helsinki? LOL.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2203301]Are you sure this is not a direct quote from Donald (Duck) Trump during his "secret 1 on 1 meeting" with Putin in Helsinki? LOL.[/QUOTE]What in the world is wrong with him? I really wish there was a way Congress or Customs and Immigration could stuff Trump and not allow entry in to the United States by Putin.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2203300]Probably one of the best things I've read on this forum in a long time![/QUOTE]I will take that as a complement although I don't know about the best, lots of good guys here with great advise and opinions around much longer than myself although I've been around elsewhere 28 years prior. I think it took me till age 30-40 ( somewhere in there) to realize that the ability to walk is the single most powerful tool we have in the shed to counteract greed or a deal we do not like. Grab another, sometimes grabbing her friend or foe really sends a message to them IMO.
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I hope to do a report on the two girls I went with when I get time, but I was completely gobsmacked by the way girls tried to sell their services.
I wish I had been better prepared (although I am not sure how).
Once a girl got my interest the conversation generally went as follows (this is a script of the longest conversation as best I remember).
Girl; What do you like to do in the room?
Me: (thinking it was a polite enquiry to get to know me) said that it all depended on how I got on with the girl, whether she liked me as a customer, and what she liked.
Girl: What do you like to do in the room?. Tell me.
Me: (fumbling with words) It depends. I just see how we get on and what we feel like doing.
Girl: What do you like to do in the room? You have to tell me.
Me (realising that using the same language does not guarantee understanding). What do you mean? I have tried to answer. Can you explain?
Girl: You must tell me so that I know
Me (different tack): What do you do in the room. Do you kiss?
Girl; for 50 you get blowjob and fuck, you pay extra for kissing, extra for licking, extra for anal. You tell me how long you go to room for. So you tell me so I can do what you are paying for.
Me: Fucking and sucking is boring. I can do that with any girl. Why should I do it with you? If I like a girl I stay a long time in the room and repeat. I have been coming to clubs a long time.
Girl: (seemingly not understanding). But all the girls here ask the same questions. You need to tell me.
Me: (getting the feeling that the girl is working to a prepared script jointly agreed by most girls in the club): I decide what I do in the room depending on whether the girl is any good for me.
Girl: But we are here for money, you can do what you want, but you must pay for everything extra.
Me; If I have to agree to that, then I spend much much less money.
Girl: But the girls come here for money.
Me: (realising there is no comunication) Yes of course I know that, but surely girls have their likes and dislikes, and if they give good service then they will earn more money as they get repeat customers.
Girl: That is not what happens. You must tell me what you want to pay for.
Me; I find this difficult as I have never been asked this before. I have been in clubs since 2002 and this way of working is new to me. I am a litle confused.
Girl; No, it is always like I say.
Me: (At this point I decide words are failing, she has a pretty face, and this conversation is intriguing) okay We go to room and see. I pay 50 euros. If it goes well I stay longer.
In the room she still did not let her guard down, even when.
Me: okay We can do what you like for half hour. Sleep, talk, nothing.
Girl: I want lots of money, I want to do everything so I get lots of money.
Anyway. She got 50 euros. I decided that a sex robot might have been more responsive. And I continued to be propositioned in similar tems.
What I write is meant just for information / entertainment. And remember I was in effect a complete newbie at Oase (knowing only two girls there). I am sure that members who have got their feet under the table like Ortos and UltraHappy know the girls who do not follow this script. I asked one girl if all the girls went to a special school to learn the script it was so similar. She chose not to respond, but it seems to me that they are schooled by somebody.
My personal view is that it shows a lack of respect for themselves and their customers. Just my view.
And this is not a report to slag off Oase. It is just something I would have found helpful to have read if somebody else had written it before my visit. I like the buzz, the much improved facilities, the helpfulness of reception, the heavily made up girls, the wow factor of some of thegirls and the public sex (a rarity nowadays). I even got a session in the garden which included some quite remarkable services.
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Strident?
[QUOTE=Optimist;2203129]Upstate Mann. Yes of course there is collusion. The romanian girls have always been good at enforcing peer established norms (of course, I generalise). Oase itself supports this pricing structure at the Front Desk.
You say you are baffled by these "complaints". I am not sure why. You explain that you come from somewhere where you get nothing much good for 50 euros, so you are importing those values.
Being a high spender is not relevant to the point being made. For example, I have frequently paid a couple of thousand to or so to whoever is my current favourite, but this is not relevant. My turn off is that I do not want a menu all agreed up front as you like to do. I look for a personal interaction which develops its own course, rather than picking standard dishes from a set menu. A mercenary attitude by a girl seems to me to be the same as going with an ugly girl is for you.
I hope this helps explain.
Cheers.
Upstate. I just reread my post and realise it comes across a bit strident. Apologies for that. It was meant to be a polite reply.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Optimist, no worries. You make some fair points. I could have phrased things better. For instance, the menu is always open with my favorite girl. Of course each encounter takes us to different places. There is personal interaction. But if something occurs outside of the main course I know exactly what that will cost me. It took some time to establish that trust. I will miss this one when she is gone. Someday I will be back in the pool with the sharks. I can't imagine being charged extra for something like DFK or DATY.
Very true that I am importing my value system. To me the top girls in these clubs are worth much more than 100 Euros an hour. I am thankful for such pricing. I suppose others see this as a price hike on the bargain they have long received. I remember when I first found Oase and bounced from girl to girl in much shorter sessions, 50 Euros at a time. Now I prefer long GFE's.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2203207]I know perfectly well how to establish goodwill. And it doesn't involve giving a salesperson whatever they ask.
Agreeing to 100 in advance is not right for me.[/QUOTE]Agree 100 percent.
Reading your report on Michelle at world, it seemed she showed goodwill towards you. She performed well with no guarantees of anything more than a 50. At Oase, their definition of goodwill is different. Their expectations are different.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2203666]Agree 100 percent.
Reading your report on Michelle at world, it seemed she showed goodwill towards you. She performed well with no guarantees of anything more than a 50. At Oase, their definition of goodwill is different. Their expectations are different.[/QUOTE]That is true. I have my doubts whether anything I promised my Oase Robot Queen would have got me goodwill, but as I didn't offer more than 50 I will never know LOL. My gut feeling was that she could never be worth even 50.
I will do a bit more detail about the two rooms I did.
Cheers.
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Bravo!
[quote=optimist;2203366]i hope to do a report on the two girls i went with when i get time, but i was completely gobsmacked by the way girls tried to sell their services.
I wish i had been better prepared (although i am not sure how).
Once a girl got my interest the conversation generally went as follows (this is a script of the longest conversation as best i remember).
Girl; what do you like to do in the room?
Me: (thinking it was a polite enquiry to get to know me) said that it all depended on how i got on with the girl, whether she liked me as a customer, and what she liked..[/quote]Pure fucking gold!
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Marquis, thanks. I would love to have seen your dialogue with this girl (Soraya) (should you have met her), which I am sure would have been a lot more entertaining than mine.
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Is It Still Meggi?
Ten minutes after my arrival I was still stunned by the number of girls lying around in the sun and the welcome walk past them all. Was feeling upbeat, even if many were almost fully clothed (often wearing the most unflattering one pieces and tatty underwear). These girls I pretty much deleted from my first line of interest as I thought they clearly had no idea about presentation. On my return towards the building I was hailed by a rather good looking slim girl who shouted "I know you". I looked and did not recognise her, but gradually it dawned on me that maybe she was right. She introduced herself as the girl I knew as Meggi at World, four or five years ago, from Bulgaria.
Time has been kind to her. Somehow she seemed taller and better looking, and a bit more settled in her skin. She defies the rule that the longer a girl in Germany works the fatter she gets. I have respect for her ability to actually improve her figure, her languages, and her marketing skills. Unlike me who is now shorter and crumpled. She pouted her superb lips and kissed and hugged me. We chatted briefly, with her being totally cheerful. After a couple of minutes we went off hand in hand, with no discussion of price or services. Of course I knew what she used to do so I guessed she had not changed. We went to one of the half-canopied bed sin the garden, about twenty metres away was a guy with two girls fucking, and another guy was about five metres away. On her way to the bed she had confirmed her memory of me and, giggling and laughing, repeated in words of one syllable what she always did with me, making it sound like I was the cleverest person in the world. My opinion of myself was growing with every second: that is a sign of a skilled worker.
The session took the normal course. She did what she promised but the longer the session continued the more her short service attention span grew. Irrepressible. Normally a session with her rarely lasted more than 20 minutes at World so I knew exactly what I was getting into. She is almost the only girl I have ever repeated with despite finishing rooms early. This time was different. After we started, she announced the cost was 100 extra, but I told her it was 50 extra, and she said agreed. I won't go into details but it was a great session, and I would repeat like a shot. I didn't even get round to DFK which is normally my first line requirement. After I think 20 minutes or so, I, with great willpower, called time, as I only had a two hour entry and, buoyed by my session with her, thought I ought to try other girls. We walked back to the building arm in arm, both delighted with the session
A great off the wall session, with a girl who knows how to upsell with style. I was very happy with her.
Those who know me might think she was a GFE as that is my main style. She is absolutely not. She is lively, active, fun, and with panache offers a fullon friendly battle of wills.
Just shows that the best things are unscripted and unprogrammed. One thing I noticed about Oase was that, in my short time there, there was little appearance of fun and spontaneity amongst the couples returning from their activities. They all looked like they had just been to the dentist
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2204288] On my return towards the building I was hailed by a rather good looking slim girl who shouted "I know you". I looked and did not recognise her, but gradually it dawned on me that maybe she was right. She introduced herself as the girl I knew as Meggi at World, four or five years ago, from Bulgaria.[/QUOTE]She recognized me as well. Did a "good ol' days" session with her that was less than average, there's better service in the RLD for 20 EUR.
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Anyone ever see this guy before?
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2204174]Pure fucking gold![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIlmbUbiGxM[/URL]
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Meggi
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2204363]She recognized me as well. Did a "good ol' days" session with her that was less than average, there's better service in the RLD for 20 EUR.[/QUOTE]Yes. It is a battle of manoeuvre, movement, surprise, and rapid tactics with her. One has to work hard to stay ahead of her. In essence she is not to be recommended. I was lucky in that my session worked.
Rereading my post I realise it could be read as a recommendation. Sorry about that. It was just a description of how it went with me. On my walk back to the building I was thinking, I bet all the girls think I have been scammed, given Meggie's reputation. I knew otherwise: no scamming or overcharging, but she would have if she could.
In general I think your description fits her most likely service better than my one (although maybe for 30 euros :) )
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Soraya
My sex robot. The service offered is worth nothing. It is just a disengaged suck and fuck. Her only plus point is her body and face.
No conversation or interest. She merely whined that she had spent too long in the sun (my problem? I think not) and that she wanted money
I have never found such a useless worker, not even in a rld. At least scammers normally make an effort to engage. I think sex robots will be much better than her as they will be programmed to imitate minimum emotion, empathy, and intelligence.
If this sort of worker is what Oase wants then shame on the club.
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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2204530][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIlmbUbiGxM[/URL][/QUOTE]I know the creator from days gone by. For personal reasons I love his creations of FKKWorld.
[URL]https://youtu.be/ay3lGdqSjXc[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2204648]Yes. It is a battle of manoeuvre, movement, surprise, and rapid tactics with her. One has to work hard to stay ahead of her. In essence she is not to be recommended. I was lucky in that my session worked.
Rereading my post I realise it could be read as a recommendation. Sorry about that. It was just a description of how it went with me. On my walk back to the building I was thinking, I bet all the girls think I have been scammed, given Meggie's reputation. I knew otherwise: no scamming or overcharging, but she would have if she could. [/QUOTE]Meggi recognized my from FKK World five years ago. Said I was a regular by her. I doubt it since I did not remember her. Session was above average unlike for you guys. I will not repeat though. No chemistry. No scamming neither. Perhaps my impressions are distorted. Low expectations as it was a long time since I met a new girl (sort of) here that ticked all the boxes.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2204648] On my walk back to the building I was thinking, I bet all the girls think I have been scammed, given Meggie's reputation. I knew otherwise: no scamming or overcharging, but she would have if she could.[/QUOTE]Just curious. Was she also a scammer and over-charger back at World five years ago? If she was above average service or average service back at World, it begs the question: why is she a scammer now?
Perhaps she was always a scammer, but it wasn't until she arrived at Oase that she was able to show her true colors. In other words, Oase's lax, hands-off management and the greater sex tourist population there enabled her.
Perhaps after five years in the business, through empirical trial and error and observation of other WGs, she came to the conclusion that the scamming approach yields (a) either better earnings or (b) comparable earnings with considerably less mental and physical effort.
In general, most mongers seem to believe that WGs' service gets better as they age, because they can't rely on their youthful looks anymore. But you gave the impression that her looks have slightly improved in the five years since you've seen her.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2204654]
If this sort of worker is what Oase wants then shame on the club.[/QUOTE]What is the club supposed to do? Peek in the room every now and then and remind the girls to give better blowjobs and more enthusiastic sex? Not sure Oase is much different in this regard than other German clubs as all big German clubs have their share of good girls and bad girls.
In any case, many thanks for sharing your experience. Hopefully, your report will save many other readers of this fine forum their own 50 Euros. Her name is now added to my "naughty" list (until others start reporting otherwise on her in the club -- I realize that some girls do eventually improve, some never do). Thanks!
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2204911]What is the club supposed to do? Peek in the room every now and then and remind the girls to give better blowjobs and more enthusiastic sex? Not sure Oase is much different in this regard than other German clubs as all big German clubs have their share of good girls and bad girls.
In any case, many thanks for sharing your experience. Hopefully, your report will save many other readers of this fine forum their own 50 Euros. Her name is now added to my "naughty" list (until others start reporting otherwise on her in the club -- I realize that some girls do eventually improve, some never do). Thanks![/QUOTE]If the clubs do this they are strongly acting about the new law, not sure they want to do it, the girls are independent entrepreneurs.
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UH. I did not mean my statement to be taken seriously in the sense of expecting a club to check on workers to ensure they meet my requirements!. It was more an expression of dissatisfaction if this is what the club wants. I heard the front desk telling a new visitor that the rate in the club was 50 for suck and fuck and all else was negotiation. I had this in mind when I wrote as it seems to be support for charging extra for DATY or kissing.
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UH. Soraya. Remember this was just a report on my experience. You might get a different response. And to be fair to her, I did intentionally let her steer the encounter in this unproductive way.
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McAdonis and Mr Bris. Meggi. She has not changed her approach since her World times, but looks better and has refined her negotiation skills. Her service also has become less of a hassle. I would not say she is a scammer as such, but she used to be good at getting the session over and done with. On this occasion, as before, the price she accepted from me was very very fair.
I repeat with her because I find her fun and sexy. This is purely a personal thing. She definitely does not give consistent good service.
Would I repeat? Like a shot IF I felt I had my wits about me and was buoyant, so I could handle her. Remember on this occasion that it was I who finished the session early as I had little time
I can't comment except to describe my own experience. RN describes her as one of the worst sessions he has had
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Trip Report
Spent one night at Oase two weeks ago. I had been here a few years ago and it was my favorite club of about 7-8 FKKs I have visited. This time it was just OK. I was there on a Thursday. The second I walked into the main room with my wingman we were both attacked by two girls each. I literally didn't even have time to look around. These girls were hot though. I told them repeatedly that I wanted to relax for a bit and survey they scene and that I would look for them later. One girl got the picture and left in a huff but the other one was persistent. She got me so hard with her feminine charms and then said "why don't I suck you here for a few minutes and then we go to room". At that point I just relented. We got to the room and she is trying to quote 300-400 packages I was like whoa slow down girl. I just negotiated down to 150 for an hour with oral finish. That was probably too much but she had me just where she wanted me. After the session the other girl came up to me and asked, just between us, how much I paid this girl and I told her. I guess this girl is a known liar and tells the other girls she squeezed guys for lots of money all the time. Another girl asked me about this, too! She said she was from Greece and I forgot her name but I am sure you regulars know who I am talking about. All in all not a bad session but she probably would not have been my top choice.
It was my wingman's first time in an FKK and I told him all the ins and outs but he took the two girls back for I think a 2 HR session with all the extras and he paid them each 500! One was Caroline she says she is a pornstar (I thought I recognized here from somewhere). He says he had the time of his life so who am I to criticize.
Next session was with Anna. This is a skinny Romanian girl. I was smoking outside and she gave me a sob story how she hasn't made any money all day and I thought she was cute enough. She tried to get me to do a long expensive session but I went for the same option as the previous girl. She gave really good oral and a great session. I would recommend and would repeat if I had the chance. My wingman also sampled her goods but he paid 300 because he did a longer session with all the extras.
I thought I was done for the night and I was waiting for my wingman but a hot porno was playing on the big screen and I got excited again. Some girl told me there were 120 women in the club that night and only 50 men. So there were a lot of women sitting around bored. One had a particularly nice ass so I asked her to come over. Typical Romanian lady pretty face great body and pretty excellent service but was low on funds and opted for a 30 minute session but she still gave me oral the way I wanted so I left happy.
It's amazing how much these girls talk. I told one of the two girls with glasses that I was out of money towards the end of the night but she came up after my last session and accused me of lying when I went with another girl. I should be more honest next time and say that I am just not that into her!
Had a good time but might consider checking out other options when in Frankfurt the next time. I thought the quality of ladies has gone down since my last trip and I spent much more money here than I did for similar experiences at Samya later in my trip.
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Sharks or Oase tomorrow (Thursday)?
Gents. I will be in Frankfurt starting tomorrow (Thursday, 26 July), and am trying to decide if I should go to Oase or Sharks on Thursday. I will definitely be at Sharks on Friday, and probably Saturday, so thinking of going to Oase on Thursday. But some recent reports suggest some very Sharky behavior and poor service, which would really kill the mood for me.
I am posting the same question on the Sharks thread: I know every day and every man is different, and the lineups cannot be predicted, but what would you do?
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[QUOTE=Rog123;2205192]Spent one night at Oase two weeks ago. I had been here a few years ago and it was my favorite club of about 7-8 FKKs I have visited. This time it was just OK. I was there on a Thursday. The second I walked into the main room with my wingman we were both attacked by two girls each. I literally didn't even have time to look around. These girls were hot though. I told them repeatedly that I wanted to relax for a bit and survey they scene and that I would look for them later. One girl got the picture and left in a huff but the other one was persistent. She got me so hard with her feminine charms and then said "why don't I suck you here for a few minutes and then we go to room". At that point I just relented. We got to the room and she is trying to quote 300-400 packages I was like whoa slow down girl. I just negotiated down to 150 for an hour with oral finish. That was probably too much but she had me just where she wanted me. After the session the other girl came up to me and asked, just between us, how much I paid this girl and I told her. I guess this girl is a known liar and tells the other girls she squeezed guys for lots of money all the time. Another girl asked me about this, too! She said she was from Greece and I forgot her name but I am sure you regulars know who I am talking about. All in all not a bad session but she probably would not have been my top choice..[/QUOTE]150 for 1 hour with CIM is normal club rate.
Yes girls talk about us. I remember at Sharks after my 1 hour GFE room with Ada, Diana came to me asking: You want me? 1 hour is 100 for You. What a sexy body, but couldn't go for her face.
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[QUOTE=Rog123;2205192]I just negotiated down to 150 for an hour with oral finish. That was probably too much but she had me just where she wanted me.
It was my wingman's first time in an FKK and I told him all the ins and outs but he took the two girls back for I think a 2 HR session with all the extras and he paid them each 500! One was Caroline she says she is a pornstar (I thought I recognized here from somewhere). He says he had the time of his life so who am I to criticize.
[/QUOTE]The 150€ you paid are the standard price for time and extra.
1.000€ for 2 h with 2 girls. They really milked him. Porn Star? By her own definition? Did a client at Oase take a video with her?
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Anybody knows when is Elizabeth coming back?
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Rog123:2 weeks ago on the Thursday was the same night I was there. 120 girls sounds like an exaggeration. The upselling however doesn't surprise me.
All in all Oase had the most complete lineup out of all the clubs, but the upselling made it one of the worst clubs. Thankfully I know my ways around the worst of it, so I had some good sampling. But the girls networking there is dangerous, so I fear my 2nd visit would get more dangerous. Or I'd just stick to 2 girls I know perhaps. And maybe splurge on a 1 HR with one of them, which in retrospect she deserved (I only say this with 5% of the girls I try).
As for number of girls that day, dayshift was about equal to nightshift in terms of beauties. I'd say 35 girls on dayshift and 50 on nightshift. Making it a maximum of 85. But most likely my numbers are too high, and the real numbers were 75-80. However, I know 3 girls I know were reported there two days later, so the entire lineup was not working that day. And given my limited knowledge of names, perhaps there were 100 girls around in total that weekend. And that is strong for Oase. But still not 120.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2205545]Rog123:2 weeks ago on the Thursday was the same night I was there. 120 girls sounds like an exaggeration. The upselling however doesn't surprise me.
All in all Oase had the most complete lineup out of all the clubs, but the upselling made it one of the worst clubs. Thankfully I know my ways around the worst of it, so I had some good sampling. But the girls networking there is dangerous, so I fear my 2nd visit would get more dangerous. Or I'd just stick to 2 girls I know perhaps. And maybe splurge on a 1 HR with one of them, which in retrospect she deserved (I only say this with 5% of the girls I try).
As for number of girls that day, dayshift was about equal to nightshift in terms of beauties. I'd say 35 girls on dayshift and 50 on nightshift. Making it a maximum of 85. But most likely my numbers are too high, and the real numbers were 75-80. However, I know 3 girls I know were reported there two days later, so the entire lineup was not working that day. And given my limited knowledge of names, perhaps there were 100 girls around in total that weekend. And that is strong for Oase. But still not 120.[/QUOTE]Yes I thought that seemed high for what I saw that was what one of the ladies told me.
It seemed they all had a sob story.
Yes I am aware that 150 for 1 hour and CIM was standard and I was happy to pay that but two of the three girls were trying to upsell for 300-400 once in the room. The only one that didn't I told her I only had enough for a half hour session.
The porn star girl said her name was Caroline MILF with fake juggs and lots of tats including two guns on her stomach. She certainly looked the part. I prefer girl next door typed myself.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2205352]The 150 you paid are the standard price for time and extra.
1.000 for 2 h with 2 girls. They really milked him. Porn Star? By her own definition? Did a client at Oase take a video with her?[/QUOTE]I could see last time that upselling was a problem, but the recent posts I'm reading her confirm that it hasn't changed much. Why bother? I didn't find oase's lineup to be much to write home about, not the service I've had so far, compared to the other clubs. It seems as though Oase just had franchise value that keeps everyone returning for years, and the girls take advantage.
I suppose I'll be able to check it out myself on a 3rd visit when I feel like it. Likely on a weekday some time to test the waters on a less busy day.
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Easy Solution
If you don't like upselling, just don't go with Sharky girls. There are plenty of nice (non-sharky) girls to choose from at Oase. You just have to talk to them and avoid the greedy, bad apples.
Yes, this might involve on stepping on a few landmines (a few wasted 50 Euro bills), before you find a few special little friends for you to spend some quality time with, but this is the case with any club.
Some of these posts of people who encounter a few sharky girls exaggerate the extent of sharkiness in the line-up.
It's not fair to all the sweet, non-sharky Oase girls to paint the entire line-up with these characterizations of sharkiness.
Heck, if you encounter sharky girls who were unreasonable in their negotiations, feel free to name them here, so everyone else can benefit from this info and avoid them.
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Also a funny story I forgot to mention in my report one girl was hurting for biz that night and I believe her story. Promised her the 50 E for the final extra if she could get me there since I just had another session. She was riding me she was really good but I could tell she was giving only 80% hotness / effort to make sure I didn't cum. I faked an O while she was riding me and the look on her face was fucking priceless. I started laughing my ass off and she thought it was pretty funny too she believed me. She got what she wanted (the extra 50) soon after that.
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Oase on Thursday 26 July
I visited Oase tpon Thursday, my first visit after several months. I liked some of the changes (shisha menu, beers for €5 instead of the previous €10). Overall: it was quite slow during my time there (9 pm-3 am), but there was a favorable ratio and the girls were nice enough. Many approached me on the couches for a quick introduction and generally had a good attitude if I didn't want a sessiom. Not many girls I found very attractive, but I sessioned with two and had a good time:
Rina (Ro): brown nair, a few tattoos, and a stud above the left side of her upper lip, and on her right cheeckbone. I made sure to pre-negotiate pricing because of recent reports here of in-room upselling (not from Rina specifically, but from Oase girls in general). She told me that a massage would cost €50 extra, but I didn't agree to that and she backed down when I said I wanted an hour. She agreed to do most of what I wanted (kissing, BLS, rimming +50), but would not do FIV. We went outside, which was very nice because it has cooled down but still warm eniugh for comfort while nude. We stayed for 90 minutes, 2 pops, and I was satisfied. She wasn't quite GFE, but put in effort to satisfy. Overall good session, rating 7/10, would probably repeat (I get the sense she would be better in a reoeat session).
Neomi (Ghana): I was tired and thinking of leaving, and told her I was resting when she approached me on a couch, and she was ok to just talk for a while. After about 20 minutes of couch time talking (nothing sexual, just small-talk to pass the time), I decided to have one last session of the day. She wouldn't do kissing, but we agreed on a half-hour with BLS & rimming (with condom only) for €100. Overall a decent session, rating 6/10, would repeat in a pinch.
Overall: I wasn't very impressed with the lineup, but I had a pretty good time with those two girls.
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[QUOTE=Rog123;2205597]Yes I thought that seemed high for what I saw that was what one of the ladies told me.
It seemed they all had a sob story.
Yes I am aware that 150 for 1 hour and CIM was standard and I was happy to pay that but two of the three girls were trying to upsell for 300-400 once in the room. The only one that didn't I told her I only had enough for a half hour session.
The porn star girl said her name was Caroline MILF with fake juggs and lots of tats including two guns on her stomach. She certainly looked the part. I prefer girl next door typed myself.[/QUOTE]Just forget this cheating club, so long time that the manager Mauro is no more controlling the things, the girls like the waiters do what they want and when they want.
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Day 3 of my 7 day trip
Decided to go to Oase. This was a Fri and was a big change in pace for me.
I got there around 6 pm and the # of bears was easily 2 x-3 x the # of above avg looking girls. The last 2 days there were hardly any bears at the clubs and you could take your time and pick any girl you want. The LU in general I felt was weak with the below avg girls far out numbering the above avg looking girls. Or maybe it just felt that way because of the large # of bears on Fri.
Got a drink at the inside bar and then headed outside to grab a bite. There were quite a few girls standing in the area above the inside Jacuzzi. Got stopped by almost all of them. 1 girl which caught my attention was Adelle from Ukraine. Told the girls I had to get something to eat and will catch them later.
They had a nice BBQ outside and they also had ice cream which was quite welcome given the heat wave in Frankfurt for the whole weak. Had a quick bite grabbed a drink and sat down on 1 of the lounge chairs close to the pool. Got approached by a few girls but no one really who I would be interested in. Decided to walk back inside to the main area. I saw Adelle sitting inside with 1 of her friends who was being massaged by a really old guy. I thought both of them were taken. Luckily I asked her if she was free and she was.
Adelle is 24 yrs old and has shoulder length blonde hair with a good bod and cute face. Did some small talk and I liked her attitude and we had a good conversation. She also did anal so decided to go for a session. She was great in the room. I was surprised she went straight to BBBJ with no upselling. I told her I would like her to use a condom. She gave a good CBJ. She was great during sex and maintained eye contact with the right amount of moaning, etc. Even when we switched to doggy style she would turn around and maintain eye contact. So a great session and I would definitely repeat.
Had a shower then went out again to grab a few drinks and get something to eat. The # of bears was just increasing and now the bears were actually waiting near the section above the Jacuzzi and near the inside bar waiting for the girls they like to drop by. So definitely was becoming a sausage fest.
As I was sitting outside a group of 4-5 girls come out for a smoke break. Had not seen them before so guessing they must be the evening shift. One of the girls looked remarkably similar to an Italian girl I used to date back in college. This girl had black hair and my GF was a brunette. If not for the hair color they could easily pass for twins. Too early for me to go for another session so went to grab a drink and by the time I got back that group had disappeared and probably went back inside. Waited for them to reappear outside but no luck. Finally got tired of sitting outside and decided to go for 1 more round of the inside area. As luck would have it as I was heading downstairs to the inside bar the girl which looked like my GF from college was coming up the stairs. I said Hi and introduced myself and we went and sat down on one of the couches next to the bar. Had a good conversation with her. She was very easy to talk to spoke good English and had a nice sense of humor.
Her name was Anastasia 25 yr old from Moldova with black hair and she was wearing hair extensions. She had a tattoo in English on her right arm 'Don't judge my choices if you don't know my reasons'. After a few minutes of small talk asked her if she offered anal and she said yes. So decided to go for a session with her. Again similar to Adelle she went straight for BBBJ with no upselling. Again I had to stop her and asked her to use a condom. She gave a great CBJ and the sex was also good. Still think the session with Adelle was much better. But I would still repeat with Anastasia just because she looks so similar to my GF.
By the time I finished a shower and came out the # of bears was easily 3 x-4 x the # of above avg looking girls. I decided to skip the sausage fest and head back to the hotel.
All in all a really good day at Oase with 2 really good sessions. A room tip for the guys on the forum. Take room 9 if possible as that's the coldest room over there. Also based on the above 2 sessions I think at Oase there is no upsell for BBBJ. So have fun for all the BBBJ lovers on this form.
Will be going to Sharks today as finally got some rain here today and it has relatively cooled down a bit. But it being a Sat night I am afraid its again going to be a sausage fest with the # of bears far outnumbering the above avg looking girls. Will report back after a few days.
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Enjoy white statues with boobs outside, no need to go inside.
Had session with Nadia I think her last name is shark.
Something is wrong with this club, only decent way to have conversation with a girl is when you agreed to 50 first.
One girl offered introduction by putting her hand on my crotch, after 1 minute I had to take a shower, felt like she had some other guys cum on her hand or some cream or sweat or whatever.
Some decent looking girls on porno kino screen to keep my dick hard.
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[QUOTE=Mangga;2205456]Anybody knows when is Elizabeth coming back?[/QUOTE]I'm interested as well, did anyone see Elizabeth (HU) lately?
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I made 6 visits to Oase in the last 2 weeks, spending over 12 hours per day there, sometimes up to 18 hours. I saw all of the girls and talked to everyone I found interesting either physically or by her personality. More important to this conversation is that I also talked to dozens of mongers during my visits. As with most of these conversations, we talked about girls and shared intel. What I found consistent was that everyone with your viewpoint (that there are plenty of nice non sharky girls) pointed to the second tier optics girls. I will only take their word for it that the service was good.
As for my personal preference which I admit is high optics, skewed to the slim young bodies with pretty faces, everyone of those girls will provide mediocre service for anything less than 100 euro. When these other mongers ask for my opinion about my girls, I always had to add the caveat that my recommendation only holds for 1 hour rooms. Of course they will still elect to choose the 50 euro option and come out disappointed. The only good 50 euro room I had was my second room with Adele. Even then she joked that I couldn't touch her in a 50 euro room.
In short, what I meant is that your viewpoint and advice to pick more carefully is only qualified if one picks the junior varsity optics girls. And if you are choosing to do that (not there for the high optics) why even go to Oase? Unless you are like me and enjoy the garden, sleep room, and wifi.
For reference, the girls I think are high optics are: Carla the tits, Cameron Diaz Adele, red hair Lara, Emma sister of Ellie, tattooed Claudia, red hair Beatrice, MILF Sara, etc.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2205650]If you don't like upselling, just don't go with Sharky girls. There are plenty of nice (non-sharky) girls to choose from at Oase. You just have to talk to them and avoid the greedy, bad apples.
Yes, this might involve on stepping on a few landmines (a few wasted 50 Euro bills), before you find a few special little friends for you to spend some quality time with, but this is the case with any club.
Some of these posts of people who encounter a few sharky girls exaggerate the extent of sharkiness in the line-up..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2206523]Had session with Nadia I think her last name is shark.
Something is wrong with this club, only decent way to have conversation with a girl is when you agreed to 50 first.
One girl offered introduction by putting her hand on my crotch, after 1 minute I had to take a shower, felt like she had some other guys cum on her hand or some cream or sweat or whatever.
Some decent looking girls on porno kino screen to keep my dick hard.[/QUOTE]I was told by a girl I knew from deep NRW, management tell girls: 50 is for only suck and fuck. Besides, some girls are real specialists to fuck tourists, and teach how to do to new girls. Mady never told me about money at History Basel Liestal.
At Sharks where business is quite slow, even when casting is quite good, not same upselling, girls seem happy with 100 for 1 h, which is my GFE standard to take time to enjoy.
Average casting for my eyes, very average level in bed, no sensual woman types, Oase worth more for the club than for the girls. Arrive before 4 pm to pay only 50 , eat, drink, rest, like a real German, and save your money for higher level and more honest girls. At GT, can have some Germans for only 50 for 30 full minutes, sometimes over. Oase little Romanian girls are more expensive than Germans?
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My days at my favorite FKK
Day 1.
I arrived around 9 pm. Too late comparing with my normal time. I decided to look for my favorite taste. White skinny girls. I was approached by Nadia from Russia. I don't know what happened to me but we went to the room without talking what can we do there. I know, I was so excited. My bad. She started to upselling everything. Let's do the standard, I said her. 50 lost. Was Saturday and was very slow. Most of the girls were complaining about this. Amanda started to talk with me and we spent around 30 minutes doing that. Very nice chatting and I thought, this is my girl who will give me a good session. She was excited and I said her, let's try 30 minutes. OK. No problem. We were starting a kind of GFE but I noticed on her body, bunch of warts. This put my appetite down. Lovely body in my hands while we tried several positions but I just wanted to finish. Nothing more to do there. I think Sharks would have been a better decision for that day.
Day 2.
I was before 4 pm to pay less and I noticed better lineup. I had two great sessions with Eva from Moldova. Standard with deep GFE. Definitely, this is my day, I thought. After a generous recovery time, Miruna from Romania, was another pleasure. Another standard session with another GFE. Definitely, everything flowed that day.
Day 3.
I arrived early and Eva one more time. Was good but if I have to choose, she was better previous day. Then, I ate a lot. I spent few time relaxing and now I need your help guys to find a girl. I think her name is Alina or something like that from Romania but I am not sure at this moment. She's average tall, white skin, short RED hair and she looks close to Carol Vega (porn actress). I will try to upload a photo just in case but you can search this actress and if you see any video of her with short straight RED hair, you will see how similar she is to my muse. Alina, or something like that, has a necklace with a V. Please, help me to find her. Honestly, I change all my sessions just to have a time with her. Can't wait to see her one more time!
See you around there!
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2207109]I was told by a girl I knew from deep NRW, management tell girls: 50 is for only suck and fuck. Besides, some girls are real specialists to fuck tourists, and teach how to do to new girls. Mady never told me about money at History Basel Liestal.
At Sharks where business is quite slow, even when casting is quite good, not same upselling, girls seem happy with 100 for 1 h, which is my GFE standard to take time to enjoy.
Average casting for my eyes, very average level in bed, no sensual woman types, Oase worth more for the club than for the girls. Arrive before 4 pm to pay only 50 , eat, drink, rest, like a real German, and save your money for higher level and more honest girls. At GT, can have some Germans for only 50 for 30 full minutes, sometimes over. Oase little Romanian girls are more expensive than Germans?[/QUOTE]Yes, I am starting to wonder if these weired pricing strategies (50 for basic and 50 for all upsells) are club induced prices instead of girl induced upsells. At DV, the receptionist was quite straight forward about it. '50 is only suck and fuck with condom'. One of the hamburg clubs (read that in here) had a more intelligent pricing strategy it seemed.
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[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2207276]Day 1.
I arrived around 9 pm. Too late comparing with my normal time. I decided to look for my favorite taste. White skinny girls. I was approached by Nadia from Russia. I don't know what happened to me but we went to the room without talking what can we do there. I know, I was so excited. My bad. She started to upselling everything. Let's do the standard, I said her. 50 lost. Was Saturday and was very slow. Most of the girls were complaining about this. Amanda started to talk with me and we spent around 30 minutes doing that. Very nice chatting and I thought, this is my girl who will give me a good session. She was excited and I said her, let's try 30 minutes. OK. No problem. We were starting a kind of GFE but I noticed on her body, bunch of warts. This put my appetite down. Lovely body in my hands while we tried several positions but I just wanted to finish. Nothing more to do there. I think Sharks would have been a better decision for that day.[/QUOTE]I believed that you are talking about Adina?
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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2204530][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIlmbUbiGxM[/URL][/QUOTE]Glad to see my old videos still get attention. It also goes to sho the "good old days" were not so different after all!
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2207086]
As for my personal preference which I admit is high optics, skewed to the slim young bodies with pretty faces, everyone of those girls will provide mediocre service for anything less than 100 euro.
For reference, the girls I think are high optics are:[/QUOTE]We both have very similar taste in girls with much overlap. Some of the girls you mention are not my type however. Our preference for high optics is quite unfortunate for us as the girls we tend to prefer are the most sought after girls in the clubs.
To be clear, I have never professed to give advice regarding gentlemen who restrict themselves to 50 rooms. I usually take long rooms (although no extras and only standard rates if my room is 1 hour or longer).
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I could chip in and add that Takedown is right on the optics. Oase had the highest number of top optics on my last trip out of the 5 clubs I went to. Ahead of Oceans on 2nd. Sharks tied for third with Aca despite a much larger number of girls.
Maybe it is partly with me, but I also feel many Oase girls tailor their upsell game towards individual customers. Some of them are smart and tries to understand how your mind works. So the prices for one guy might not correlate with the prices for the second guy. I only did 3 x 50 e sessions at Oase and had 1 great session I should have extended. Not all the girls at Oase are worth extended sessions, and it can be tricky to figure out how these are if you want to test them out through a cheap 50 e. But at least I got one new (to me) girl there who exceeded my expectations even for 50 e. Although the other 2 did not.
And then sometimes my wallet cannot handle 100 e sessions with everyone since I go so often. So the hard thing at Oase is reverting back to 50 e after the first 100 e. Making the first leap that much trickier to make.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2207520]I believed that you are talking about Adina?[/QUOTE]Sounds pretty similar Alina or Adina. If this lady is same like my description, specially for short straight red hair and looks a bit to Carol Vega, I owe you a beer sir!
Thanks and see you around there!
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[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2207276]Day 1.
I arrived around 9 pm. Too late comparing with my normal time. I decided to look for my favorite taste. White skinny girls. I was approached by Nadia from Russia. I don't know what happened to me but we went to the room without talking what can we do there. I know, I was so excited. My bad. She started to upselling everything. Let's do the standard, I said her. 50 lost. Was Saturday and was very slow. Most of the girls were complaining about this. Amanda started to talk with me and we spent around 30 minutes doing that. Very nice chatting and I thought, this is my girl who will give me a good session. She was excited and I said her, let's try 30 minutes. OK. No problem. We were starting a kind of GFE but I noticed on her body, bunch of warts. This put my appetite down. Lovely body in my hands while we tried several positions but I just wanted to finish. Nothing more to do there. I think Sharks would have been a better decision for that day.
Day 2.
I was before 4 pm to pay less and I noticed better lineup. I had two great sessions with Eva from Moldova. Standard with deep GFE. Definitely, this is my day, I thought. After a generous recovery time, Miruna from Romania, was another pleasure. Another standard session with another GFE. Definitely, everything flowed that day.[/QUOTE]Could be the Alina who is the friend of Anna, nice body but a little bit depressive, I stopped visiting Oase for a while but try to ask Anna, small brunette with beautiful face or even easier the reception.
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[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2207624]Sounds pretty similar Alina or Adina. If this lady is same like my description, specially for short straight red hair and looks a bit to Carol Vega, I owe you a beer sir!
Thanks and see you around there![/QUOTE]Adina / Marina, at Oase since years, is reddish hair to shoulders, very beautiful natural tits, white skin, she seems to be a sweet girl, working on day team, sitting in corridor above jacuzzi.
About girls complaining about lack of business on a Saturday in Summer, when guys like to visit Oase for garden, many girls at Oase just deserve from how they try to fuck clients. Top and smart girls never speak about money, because they know: better to make clients will to repeat, rather to fuck them once. But most of Oase girls are really not smart, just able to fuck tourists, and complaining after, not interesting girls, only little girls who think they worth as much as top girls at Globe, but not same looks, nor level in bed, nor polite behavior.
50 per 30 mn is enough for Oase girls. Not same upselling and more woman types at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2202534]Update on newbie Nadia: Took one day for her to get indoctrinated into Oase culture. Withheld services on day 2 because her "friend" told her the "real prices. " Got the impression that she knows she is a top tier Mon-Tue girl. She might drop her ego a little when the varsity team shows up on Wednesdays and the weekend.
First room. Responsive, kisses, long sex.
Second room. Fast blowjob, fast position changes, detached sex.
She attempted to warm up when I expressed displeasure so kudos for that. Anyway, she's still hot and sweet but limited in skill and hard fuck potential. Worth a go since she is a rare true amateur.[/QUOTE]Nadia. Nadia! Wonderful service from Nadia on weekend. She is true Russian, speaking real Russian. Absolutely no complain about her. I think she is actual 175 cm, and maybe only 20 year. Very long natural brown-blonde hair, nice blue eyes, beautiful face and smile, elegant slim body, smooth skin and no tattoo.
She look just like model girls from x-art website. Oase is lucky for have her. No upsell from her in room, yet providing lot of variety for sex with excellent eye contact. Decent conversation although her English need some improve. Take your time with her and savor experience, as it rare to find truly beautiful girl like her at FKK.
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2208619]Nadia. Nadia! Wonderful service from Nadia on weekend. She is true Russian, speaking real Russian. Absolutely no complain about her. I think she is actual 175 cm, and maybe only 20 year. Very long natural brown-blonde hair, nice blue eyes, beautiful face and smile, elegant slim body, smooth skin and no tattoo.
She look just like model girls from x-art website. Oase is lucky for have her. No upsell from her in room, yet providing lot of variety for sex with excellent eye contact. Decent conversation although her English need some improve. Take your time with her and savor experience, as it rare to find truly beautiful girl like her at FKK.[/QUOTE]Better for a claimed Russian, to speak fluent Russian. So many claimed Russian, like Anja silicon, or Luana at GT, not able to speak Russian, in FKK land. Usually Russians don ' go with Romanians.
Real Russian girls are often interesting for sex.
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2208619]Nadia. Nadia! Wonderful service from Nadia on weekend. She is true Russian, speaking real Russian. Absolutely no complain about her. I think she is actual 175 cm, and maybe only 20 year. Very long natural brown-blonde hair, nice blue eyes, beautiful face and smile, elegant slim body, smooth skin and no tattoo.
She look just like model girls from x-art website. Oase is lucky for have her. No upsell from her in room, yet providing lot of variety for sex with excellent eye contact. Decent conversation although her English need some improve. Take your time with her and savor experience, as it rare to find truly beautiful girl like her at FKK.[/QUOTE]Pretty accurate. Your description of an X-Art model is spot on. One correction, she's not quite that tall, probably actually closer to 165 cm and 175 cm only with heels. As for for Russian-ness, she speaks Russian and definitely has a distinctly Russian accent when speaking English so I believe he; but she also speaks Romanian because she claims that her mother is Moldavian from Chisinau. Who knows her true background but she definitely has some Russian roots.
Anyway, curb your service expectations as she's quite new so she doesn't have many refined skills in her toolbox but she does try to make sure that you're satisfied in 1 hour rooms. However, my one 50 euro room with her was pretty lackluster though.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2208735]Pretty accurate. Your description of an X-Art model is spot on. One correction, she's not quite that tall, probably actually closer to 165 cm and 175 cm only with heels. As for for Russian-ness, she speaks Russian and definitely has a distinctly Russian accent when speaking English so I believe he; but she also speaks Romanian because she claims that her mother is Moldavian from Chisinau. Who knows her true background but she definitely has some Russian roots.
Anyway, curb your service expectations as she's quite new so she doesn't have many refined skills in her toolbox but she does try to make sure that you're satisfied in 1 hour rooms. However, my one 50 euro room with her was pretty lackluster though.[/QUOTE]Always the same story she is Romanian and worked several years in Moscau or other cities.
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Great report. Please post an update from Sharks.
[QUOTE=KrossHair;2206319]Decided to go to Oase. This was a Fri and was a big change in pace for me.
I got there around 6 pm and the # of bears was easily 2 x-3 x the # of above avg looking girls. The last 2 days there were hardly any bears at the clubs and you could take your time and pick any girl you want. The LU in general I felt was weak with the below avg girls far out numbering the above avg looking girls. Or maybe it just felt that way because of the large # of bears on Fri.
Got a drink at the inside bar and then headed outside to grab a bite. There were quite a few girls standing in the area above the inside Jacuzzi. Got stopped by almost all of them. 1 girl which caught my attention was Adelle from Ukraine. Told the girls I had to get something to eat and will catch them later..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2207890]Adina / Marina, at Oase since years, is reddish hair to shoulders, very beautiful natural tits, white skin, she seems to be a sweet girl, working on day team, sitting in corridor above jacuzzi.[/QUOTE]Hey Sirioja,
Thanks for your info but now I am bit confused. She is known as a Marina at Oase too? Because other day I talked with the receptionist asking about if she is there and she told me Adina (or similar Alina) is black hair and she didn't know any girl with red hair with that name. Strange or she couldn't provide me a right answer! Otherwise, you know perfectly who is she!
Thanks for being there!
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[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2209021]Hey Sirioja,
Thanks for your info but now I am bit confused. She is known as a Marina at Oase too? Because other day I talked with the receptionist asking about if she is there and she told me Adina (or similar Alina) is black hair and she didn't know any girl with red hair with that name. Strange or she couldn't provide me a right answer! Otherwise, you know perfectly who is she!
Thanks for being there![/QUOTE]She was Marina and changed her name to Adina or the other way around. WG may have multiple name if she likes. She might be gone on vacation if you could not find her now. Can some one verify that?
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[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2209021]Hey Sirioja,
Thanks for your info but now I am bit confused. She is known as a Marina at Oase too? Because other day I talked with the receptionist asking about if she is there and she told me Adina (or similar Alina) is black hair and she didn't know any girl with red hair with that name. Strange or she couldn't provide me a right answer! Otherwise, you know perfectly who is she!
Thanks for being there![/QUOTE]I believe that you are all speaking about Alina.
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[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2209021]Hey Sirioja,
Thanks for your info but now I am bit confused. She is known as a Marina at Oase too? Because other day I talked with the receptionist asking about if she is there and she told me Adina (or similar Alina) is black hair and she didn't know any girl with red hair with that name. Strange or she couldn't provide me a right answer! Otherwise, you know perfectly who is she!
Thanks for being there![/QUOTE]Not red hair, but chesnut reddish, hair to shoulders, used to stay close to TV screen in corridor above jacuzzi. I think she was named Marina first, then Adina. At Oase since 2015. Oase desk don't know girls.
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[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2209021]Hey Sirioja,
Thanks for your info but now I am bit confused. She is known as a Marina at Oase too? Because other day I talked with the receptionist asking about if she is there and she told me Adina (or similar Alina) is black hair and she didn't know any girl with red hair with that name. Strange or she couldn't provide me a right answer! Otherwise, you know perfectly who is she![/QUOTE]She is Adina now and has been for many years (used to be called Marina several years ago). DaWong and Siri are talking about the same girl, and I admit she has some resemblance of Carol Vega, so my two cents she is your girl. Lately she has been hanging out with Anna and Rebecca (working day shift). She is "always" in attendance, so if she is on summer leave right now it is well deserved. I suggest you get her WA next time you meet.
There is another Marina at Oase who has now been there for a couple of years. GND with solid performance (see Be Wilder's report. Or was it Jnpr?). There was a third Marina with horrible service there a few years ago. The three often get mixed. There is also a second (new) Adina of late at Oase, and over the last 12 months there have also been 1- 2 Alinas in attendance at times (in addition to Alina at the front desk). And; may I add; I do not claim to know it all. Confused? It's okay. No worries. :)
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This weekend, I visited Oase (Saturday) and Sharks (Sunday).
I went to both clubs last year. To me, they are on par with each other generally. But this time, I feel the lineup of Oase seems poor. Although I brought enough cash with me, I was just not motivated to spend it since I doid not see any attractive girls this Saturday; food not good either. This is quite different from my visit last year. Is it abnormal or just a pure odd against me?
I will also visit either Monday or Tuesday. Which one is better, Oase or sharks (lineup)? Or pretty dead for both?
Will post my reports when I have time later.
Thanks.
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Travel help to Oase
Dear fellow mongers,
Initially intended to visit sharks this Tuesday but realised it is a dessous day and hence dropped the plan and instead planning a visit to oase.
Intend to travel direct from airport to oase and in spite of doing a lot of RTTF am not sure what is the best and convenient way to travel using public transport.
Cheers and thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Tinny2000;2209263]This weekend, I visited Oase (Saturday) and Sharks (Sunday).
I went to both clubs last year. To me, they are on par with each other generally. But this time, I feel the lineup of Oase seems poor. Although I brought enough cash with me, I was just not motivated to spend it since I doid not see any attractive girls this Saturday; food not good either. This is quite different from my visit last year. Is it abnormal or just a pure odd against me?
I will also visit either Monday or Tuesday. Which one is better, Oase or sharks (lineup)? Or pretty dead for both?
Will post my reports when I have time later.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Tastes are subjective for sure. I felt the exact opposite. I will admit that I can see someone liking Sharks better this past summer if they are okay with bleach blonde silicone girls. There seems to be many more of them at Sharks these days, specifically during the later hours.
As for Mondays, Oase was pretty bad. Sharks was better on Mondays but not by much. And that is likely due to the fact that Sharks had more girls living in the club that work pretty much everyday.
As for Tuesdays, I will never visit Sharks on Dessous day ever again unless I have something prearranged. All of the fat and older girls work on Tuesdays, taking advantage of being able to cover up their fat bellies, saggy ass, and droopy tits. Oase is not much better on Tuesdays but more girls do show up than on Mondays.
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[QUOTE=TimePassPune;2209587]Dear fellow mongers,
Initially intended to visit sharks this Tuesday but realised it is a dessous day and hence dropped the plan and instead planning a visit to oase.
Intend to travel direct from airport to oase and in spite of doing a lot of RTTF am not sure what is the best and convenient way to travel using public transport.
Cheers and thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You'll need to take the train with a changeover in the main trainstation / hauptbanhof (HBF), pretty much all trains from the airport go to HBF then buy a ticket there for Friedrichsdorf, you don't get tickets at the DB kiosks in the main entrance, it's the light green machines right beside the platforms. Then taxis are waiting outside Friedrichsdorf station, €10 to €12 euro to Oase.
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You can also buy the ticket at the airport station, it's possible to just hop on the train to HBF and then check departure / platform and sort out tickets to wherever the final destination is, it's only two stops from airport to HBF and tickets are rarely checked (never in my experience, which is of course purely anecdotal), but a ticket should of course be purchased at the airport.
The train station is in terminal 1 which may involve a transfer bus from T2.
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[QUOTE=TimePassPune;2209587]Dear fellow mongers,
Initially intended to visit sharks this Tuesday but realised it is a dessous day and hence dropped the plan and instead planning a visit to oase.
Intend to travel direct from airport to oase and in spite of doing a lot of RTTF am not sure what is the best and convenient way to travel using public transport.
Cheers and thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]It is very easy and cheap to use public transit directly from Airport to Oase. Under 15 E. Yes. It is not joking. You go downstairs for regional train, on the ticket machine, put in destination as Friedrichsdolf. It will show you the cost of ticket is E4. 92. You get on the train and change at Frankfurt central station to s5. Take s5 all the way to the end and get a cab for E10. That is all it take. Have fun.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2209234]There is also a second (new) Adina of late at Oase, and over the last 12 months there have also been 1- 2 Alinas in attendance at times (in addition to Alina at the front desk). And; may I add; I do not claim to know it all. Confused? It's okay. No worries.[/QUOTE]Second Adina? She is still there? I think the receptionist was confused with her. I just wanted to know if Adina, the first, would be there when I come back in few time, because sometimes they are on holidays or they decide to take time off. Unfortunately, no way to contact with her. I hope to see her again next time. She is an authentic jewel!
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2209186] I think she was named Marina first, then Adina. At Oase since 2015. Oase desk don't know girls.[/QUOTE]Your date is not correct. Marina's first day at Oase was in September 2013. It was definitely her first day because she was so lost that I had to show her where the rooms were, and had to tell her some of the new procedures. (Having to sign in and out the keys. This was abandoned shortly due to the queues it caused.)
She took over the name Adina in late 2014 when another girl called Adina, who was one of my top favorites at that time, left.
Here is my Sep 2013 report on her.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1478258]There very few men in the early afternoon. Some of the girls grumbled that the new arrangements were keeping customers away and that they had absolutely no business so far. Lavinia, on the other hand, said to me that she was grabbed every time she left the washroom such that she had no time even to enjoy a quiet smoke!
When a large group of orientals arrived later in the afternoon, the girls attacked them with glee, and processed them super fast again and again. So, I think they probably finally got their required returns for the day just from that group.
I tried another new girl today, a Marina from Romania, who left World for Oase because she said that she could hardly make enough money at World to cover even essential expenses like entrance fee and transport. She was very obliging and passively allowed me to tell her how I wanted it. But I felt very guilty after a while as she looked and behaved like a very sweet girl (she was 18 and looked that age) , such that I finished quickly and gave her a tip.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2209947]Your date is not correct. Marina's first day at Oase was in September 2013. It was definitely her first day because she was so lost that I had to show her where the rooms were, and had to tell her some of the new procedures. (Having to sign in and out the keys. This was abandoned shortly due to the queues it caused.)
She took over the name Adina in late 2014 when another girl called Adina, who was one of my top favorites at that time, left.
Here is my Sep 2013 report on her.[/QUOTE]You know her better than me, I never been with her because she looks so bored about her job, like Bianka at Sharks, but I like to look at her beautiful natural tits.
I discovered Oase on end of June 2014 when Isabella left World, I tried all the beauties I saw, like Carla with also beautiful natural tits, I chose Maria Platinium who was the sexiest for me, and sweet girl, then I went only with her until her birthday and she left on holidays. No Adina / Marina for me. Then I returned to Madi who was only my number 3 on May and June at World, on end of July, and she became my number 1.
So long time Adina is very easy to find at Oase, I often saw her not so busy, but Oase desk, like at Sharks, are not reliable about girls.
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Transport.
[QUOTE=TimePassPune;2209587]Dear fellow mongers,
Initially intended to visit sharks this Tuesday but realised it is a dessous day and hence dropped the plan and instead planning a visit to oase.
Intend to travel direct from airport to oase and in spite of doing a lot of RTTF am not sure what is the best and convenient way to travel using public transport.
Cheers and thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]My advice is to rent a car, as a non-German I find public transport really complicated and in the end you reach a price similar or even lower if you rent a car for the day (s) which is about 35-42€/ days.
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Live from Oase again.
I agree that a car is needed to travel between clubs comfortably.
First impression of Oase today is not very good yet. At least the weather is ideal, not hot not cold after all the heat that's perfect. Line-up at the moment is bad. I expect a good bunch of hotties to arrive at night. I hope I'm lucky. No session yet.
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Cheyenne.
Eventually my prayers were heard. Just when I thought I won't find any girl I like all day and have to settle for an average looker I found Cheyenne. This very small blonde girl is exactly my cup of tea except for the Botox lips. But apart from that she is amazing because smart, confident and industrious. Very good session with everything that you want. Let's hope I find at least a second hottie for a 2nd session.
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Hi guys can you give me some advice re Oase.
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2210846]I agree that a car is needed to travel between clubs comfortably.
First impression of Oase today is not very good yet. At least the weather is ideal, not hot not cold after all the heat that's perfect. Line-up at the moment is bad. I expect a good bunch of hotties to arrive at night. I hope I'm lucky. No session yet.[/QUOTE]Was at Sharks today, fantastic, food was amazing steaks, chicken you name it, went with Greek girl Kylie superb and Elsa very good Buchanun of Romanians which were poor. Anyway we're planning to go to Oase tomorrow but have heard it's really bad now. I see you went today did it improve, any other recommendations other than sharks having done that.
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Alicia.
Hi,
Last time I visited Oase I was fortunate to have a couple sessions with a beautiful tall brunette named Alicia who said she had been there for 4 years but is considering getting out of the biz, about to do a return trip soon & was wondering if anyone has seen her around at Oase or possibly another club? Thanks in advance.
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Oase to Sharks
Saturday night. Headed up 9 pm. Sausage fest. Walked the club circuit: lounge / top of jacuzzi / bottom area by it / outdoor / back x4 over a one hour space and genuinely didn't find a single girl who I thought I really wanted to try. Previous night at Sharks I could have chosen from 10 spinners. Spoke to Soraya. Nice girl, Denisa now Blonde (she suited dark better), Alexa always pretty, but nothing stood out and I cut my losses and went back to Sharks. Cut a deal with the cab driver for 75 which I thought was good. Had another fantastic night in Sharks. LU head and shoulders above Oase at present.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2211375]Spoke to Soraya. Nice girl [/QUOTE]I knew it!!! :D
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The weekend.
Hi all,
Thought I would write this while recovering in Frankfurt airport. On phone so apologise for any poor grammar. Went to Oase and sharks in the end. Sharks was exceptional In comparison to Oase but Oase does have a spark more to that later.
Sharks outside area is just incredible, you feel like your in Ibiza and I had sex with yellow in one of the sun lounger cubicles. The food was very good, they served steak, chicken sausages you name it all cooked fresh of the grill. All in all had about 7 girls over 15 hours. A couple of Romanians unsold me and took me into a room, it's the only experience I regret as for a threesome they were pretty crap and just out for the money. Kylie was very good and sits by the gents, dark hair big natural tits defiantly a 9. Very sexy and up for most things I'm more GFE than porn star.
Had a great night and there were loads of stunning girls there more Romanians.
So oase. Was worried about going based on reports. The food was totally shit by comparison. I mean awful. Beer was 5 Euro so not bad. Lots of pig ugly girls. This however did change and the best girl by far of the whole weekend was Anna from maldova. She has a tattoo down her back and well you will see her, an out right 10. Amazing head great sex and In the end I took the rear just to savour everything on offer.
Thing about Oase by. 8 pm there were tons of attractive girls and the music was great the girls were on the bar dancing, I was dancing the place was alive. I had way more fun at Oase. So to sum up. Probably more stunners at Sharks but if I went again tomorrow I would still choose Oase for atmosphere, fun.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2211375]Saturday night. Headed up 9 pm. Sausage fest. Walked the club circuit: lounge / top of jacuzzi / bottom area by it / outdoor / back x4 over a one hour space and genuinely didn't find a single girl who I thought I really wanted to try. Previous night at Sharks I could have chosen from 10 spinners. Spoke to Soraya. Nice girl, Denisa now Blonde (she suited dark better), Alexa always pretty, but nothing stood out and I cut my losses and went back to Sharks. Cut a deal with the cab driver for 75 which I thought was good. Had another fantastic night in Sharks. LU head and shoulders above Oase at present.[/QUOTE]Oase is a cheating club like Artemis, the management is too weak to take back any control of the operations, no need to visit any more.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2210690]I have stayed in Arkadia many times, and have not seen anyone looking like an Oase customer during breakfast. Most seem to be there in groups for business or seminars....Bear in mind that all sex websites including ISG is blocked on their free wifi.[/QUOTE]I surmise most Oase clients would skip breakfast after leaving the club in the middle of the night. Check-out time at noon is a plus at Arkadia. I also like the shopping mall nearby.
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Day 3 - Fri 27 July FKK Oase
On my last trip, Oase had the best line-up and I had a great time and coupled with it being my favourite club was looking forward to spending my last day there. Got there before 4 pm to take benefit of the E50 entry and also enjoy lazing around outside for a few hours. It was still very hot but a lot more comfortable at Oase compared to Sharks. There were 82 girls present. I know because at one point they all disappeared for a meeting and I was by the entrance when they all re-appeared so took a head count!
7. Katherine:- I had read a lot about a Hungarian stunner dubbed Katherine the Great and I can only assume it was this girl who is tall, stunning model looks, slim, nice natural boobs and wavy auburn / brown hair. One of the most beautiful girls I've seen in a FKK club and if my maths are correct, I've been with 179 FKK girls and perhaps viewed 2000 (girls at these wonderful places. In other words, she was a must have. Decided to clarify if kissing and OWO was included and she made it clear that was an extra E50. For the first time, I succumbed to paying for a "non-extra" extra but reasoned otherwsie it would be the equivalent of not taking down the hood on a convertible Ferrari on a nice sunny day.
Service and her demeanour were perfectly pleasant without being mindblowing and so only had 30 minutes whereas if she was a top performer would have extended for some time. Nice blowie, some missionary and finished off with a HJ. The aesthetics are what made this session memorable but compared to Madi on my last trip who is in the same category looks wise but who wasn't there this time, Katherine falls short. Katherine the Good would be a more apt description. E100.
8. Maasha:- There were 4 girls from last time who I would have been happy to see again. Madi was not there and nor was old favourite Daniella (tall, slim brunette with small tits). Last time I had an hour threesome with Daniella and Adela who is the Cameron Diaz lookalike. Approached Adela this time and had an hour session in mind but she rebuffed me on the basis that it was a Friday night and wanted to make more money! She was certainly hoovering up the Korean guys who were presumably paying over the odds but nevertheless that's one potential long term customer she has lost and don't come looking for me on a cold, wet Tuesday!
Chose slutty looking, dark blonde Maasha who is almost Amazonian (last time she called herself Mashuka when I took her for a spin. She has large fake knockers which are relatively recent. She gives a stand-offish vibe but once in the room is perfectly pleasant. I actually recognise her from 2014 as she was friends with my darling "Madrid" Jennifer who I would almost crawl over broken glass for one last session. I did ask about her but they're no longer in touch.
Good 30 min session, nice foreplay, long blowjob, some missionary and finished with HJ. Possibly my fault for not making more of it but was flagging by now. E50.
9. Vanessa and Danielle:- Wanted to finish with a no-hassle high and saw Vanessa was back. She is a blonde, natural medium sized figure, fairly attractive and a very pleasant girl who always delivers. Seen her 6 times now and always in a threesome with a brunette. This time chose Danielle who is a slim, petite, young girl with curly hair. Predominantly black but also blondish in places. She has an incredibly smooth body and lovely natural tits and I enjoyed feasting on her and hope to see more of her in the future. She also has a nice, soothing personality.
A blissful one hour with them taking numerous turns to blow me while the other nuzzled on my chest or presented her tits for me to feast on. Did them both in doggy but I wasn't going to cum through sex again and so back to getting pleasured orally and finished off with Vanessa sucking me off while enjoying the feel of Danielle. A very pampered one hour. E200.
Overall, a good trip with only one bad session and not much to choose between the 3 clubs. I'm already looking forward to coming back and hope I can make one more trip before the end of the year.
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[QUOTE=WannaJob;2211450]Thing about Oase by. 8 pm there were tons of attractive girls and the music was great the girls were on the bar dancing, I was dancing the place was alive. I had way more fun at Oase. So to sum up. Probably more stunners at Sharks but if I went again tomorrow I would still choose Oase for atmosphere, fun.[/QUOTE]It's interesting to see so many contrasting reviews of the Sharks versus Oase line ups with mongers being so definitive in their assessments of the overall optics. Upselling aside, I wholeheartedly agree with you that the environment of Oase is a little better as I found myself at times completely bored at Sharks. As far as "stunners " at Sharks, I can see your point but will add the caveat that I made before, many of the higher optic girls are Botox, bottle blondes with silicone.
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I think to remember model type but long nose Katrin is Bulgarian, not Hungarian. For most of my experiences with Bulgarians, except Aylice and Andrea Sharks, lack of sensuality compare to Romanians.
Adela can be quite interesting in bed, but cleverness is not her best point. Not a smart type.
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Poorest Oase LU ever this Tuesday (3-8 pm)
Male / female ratio ok but didn't see the well-known stunners. Fewer girls as usual, quite a few I had never seen but with ordinary figures. No difference with say Sixsens or Samya. The Sharks girl I reported having spotted near Frankfurt HBh in the Frankfurt thread is now working at Oase.
Stayed at Motel One Frankfurt airport. Good-value for money, easy to find from the motorway, easy parking. Lousy free WiFi however. Miss the efficient censored Arkadia WiFi!
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How is the Scene in Oase these days?
Hi guys,
How is the Oase Scene these days? Is it still Extras for DFK, DATY etc. Etc. If in an Half an Hour Session? Or girls tend to do it also without any extra cost in an Half an Hour Session?
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[QUOTE=Rajk30;2212642]Hi guys,
How is the Oase Scene these days? Is it still Extras for DFK, DATY etc. Etc. If in an Half an Hour Session? Or girls tend to do it also without any extra cost in an Half an Hour Session?[/QUOTE]Depends on the girl and on your barganing skill. Also you better ask before entering a room, when she isn't certain if she has you in her grasp of not. Once you're inside everything you haven't discussed before will turn to be extra. This is true 80% of the time if the girl isn't Romanian and 100% of the times if she is.
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Oase lu.
[QUOTE=XXL;2212498]Male / female ratio ok but didn't see the well-known stunners. Fewer girls as usual, quite a few I had never seen but with ordinary figures. No difference with say Sixsens or Samya. The Sharks girl I reported having spotted near Frankfurt HBh in the Frankfurt thread is now working at Oase.
Stayed at Motel One Frankfurt airport. Good-value for money, easy to find from the motorway, easy parking. Lousy free WiFi however. Miss the efficient censored Arkadia WiFi![/QUOTE]I spent four days at Oase in mid July, Wed. Through Sat. During that time, the lineup was very good every day for my preference, which is youngish and natural, though I was there a bit later than you, from 2 - midnight. Out of Sharks, Samya, Oase, Artemis, and GT-Vienna, I thought Oase had the best lineup, with Samya being second. It seemed to me that the best times for lineup were around 4:30 and around 7:30. I really like the outdoor area there, it's probably my favorite. A VPN helps a lot at Arkadia.
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[QUOTE=Mangga;2212735]Depends on the girl and on your barganing skill. Also you better ask before entering a room, when she isn't certain if she has you in her grasp of not. Once you're inside everything you haven't discussed before will turn to be extra. This is true 80% of the time if the girl isn't Romanian and 100% of the times if she is.[/QUOTE]I would not suggest making blanket statements about this, because different male guests get different reactions and behavioral characteristics from the same girls, depending on whether you are a known regular club visitor, a repeat and / or frequent guest of this girl and a whole basket of other variables. Simply put: not every man gets treated the same way. One girl might offer gratis BBBJ to certain men, but the same girl might charge other men extra for same or whatever service. That is just the way this game is played, fair or not. So sweeping general statements are not always accurate. It's very much a YMMV club, and I might add from my own perspectives: Oase is not the best club for 50 E /30 mins sessions. I think it's more of a challenge to get maximum juice out of a 50 E session at Oase than it would be at perhaps other clubs.
All of that said: still at Oase, or any other club for that matter, one might still, even if a first-time visit to the club, achieve the "immaculate 50E/30mins session" if one: A) Projects oneself in the proper manner towards the girls; and/or B) Knows how to play the game and has sharp "girl radar" and refined pre-room chat-up techniques; and/or C) you are fucking lucky.
Lastly: I personally (for many reasons) prefer and seek out 100E/60mins sessions: and I seldom have any whisper of a problem getting all I want and even more at this club over 80% of the girls at this club. I've had some bad sessions here, like at any other club, but the the vast majority of experiences here have been thumbs up: I don't visit during August, however, never, ever!
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[QUOTE=Rajk30;2212642]Hi guys,
How is the Oase Scene these days? Is it still Extras for DFK, DATY etc. Etc. If in an Half an Hour Session? Or girls tend to do it also without any extra cost in an Half an Hour Session?[/QUOTE]Go to Sharks, better services with less upselling there. Oase only worth for the club, to eat, to drink, to relax, for 50.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2212809]Go to Sharks, better services with less upselling there. Oase only worth for the club, to eat, to drink, to relax, for 50.[/QUOTE]The problem with Sharks, for me, it has a for sure less number of sharky girls than Oase but the Visual Optics is not as pleasing as it is in Oase. So it is a trade off that one has to do with Looks versus service! Do not know about the current situation in Sharks!
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2209234]
There is another Marina at Oase who has now been there for a couple of years. GND with solid performance (see Be Wilder's report. Or was it Jnpr?). [/QUOTE]A vastly under-rated and under-reported girl I have been keeping secret, rather selfishly. But girls are leaving Oase now because the clients are sitting and soaking the hot weather up instead of fucking.
What does GND mean?
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Marina
[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2213176]A vastly under-rated and under-reported girl I have been keeping secret, rather selfishly.
What does GND mean?[/QUOTE]Marina is nice and superfriendly. Great session. She was in attendance earlier this week.
GND = girlnextdoor, I. E. a normallooking girl. May not have the optics of a "model / supermodel" that some are craving.
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[QUOTE=Rajk30;2212993]The problem with Sharks, for me, it has a for sure less number of sharky girls than Oase but the Visual Optics is not as pleasing as it is in Oase. So it is a trade off that one has to do with Looks versus service! Do not know about the current situation in Sharks![/QUOTE]I don't know how is Sharks casting at the moment, because I don't go, but usually, I find prettier woman types at Sharks than low level little girls at Oase, except Katrin. Bu but not sensual enough, and Adela when she takes care of her hair.
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TOFTT - An August visit
You know "The Rules":
- Don't visit a FKK Club in August. The girls are an summer holiday leaving only the B- and C- team in the LU. There will be too many men, horrible F / M ratios, and a sweaty sausage fest.
- Don't visit on a Monday. This is the girls' off day after working hard in the weekend. Nobody of interest will be there.
- Don't visit Oase in bad weather during summer. You cannot enjoy the garden and it will be cramped inside. As the girls don't expect the guys to show up, they don't show up.
- Don't visit when all the ISG reports are negative.
So I decided to break all the rules this last Monday (a rainy day).
It's not the first time I have done this. Actually I usually spend one trip a year in August and have found "big clubs around Frankfurt with a garden" like Oase to be surprisingly well attended in the last 5- 7 years. I can understand the warnings as the risks are obviously there (I would definitively avoid small clubs in August). And I vaguely remember the worst times 10- 15 years back when a bunch of retired "old girls" were trying to fill in for the A- team. Not good! But I have to say that all the negativity these days is a bit exaggerated and that good times can be had.
Admittedly, my first rule for an August visit is to not set your expectations too high. If I can find only one top girl you get along with, I would be happy. Then repeat once or twice. The girl will be extremely happy. Usually I can find 2- 3 top girls. No sweat. Only once (my all time Monday low around ten years ago) I only found one ("Miss Venezuela" if anyone still remembers her). Had her for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Ok, having only one girl on a visit is not what most would consider a great evening, but looking back at my adventure with Miss Venezuela on that Monday it remains one of my top fond memories at this club.
I was also hopeful that a Monday visit would create good F / M ratios. Let's face it: The heatwave this summer have created sausage fests in the weekends we rarely have seen at Oase (in retrospect I think Lanthano was correct in a previous report). The investement in proper a / c has paid off (Shark management could learn something from this). Sadly this success leads to a more stressful atmosphere in the weekends (with more upselling as a consequence).
Finally, I was hoping to see more relaxed girls sunbathing and skinnydipping by the pool. In previous years I have seen this many times on weekday visits (in the weekends they aim to earn money and do not have time for this). Too bad last Monday was a rainy day leaving the pool area empty.
Ok, back to last Monday. The number of girls were in fact as strong as any other normal week in the year. Around 15- 20 girls when I arrived around noon increasing to 35 girls around 3 pm and 50+ girls in the evening. Not bad at all for a shitty Monday in August!
Even better: Fantastic F / M ratios. I was (almost) alone and surrounded by 20- 30 naked girls all day. And in contrast to the weekend sausage fest everything was so fun and relaxed. The girls, even many top girls, were probably not expecting to make so much money (they use the weekend to do that) and therefore were in surprisingly good mood and smiling. They had plenty of time to joke around and make sweet passes (including a bit of couch time).
And then the important question: Who was there? What was the LU like?
First impression was a very young and fresh LU. A good mix of new faces and vets. Mostly 20-somethings mixed with some 30+ and one 40+. I know everyone has their own taste and preferences, but Top 5 optic targets for me on this shitty Monday in August would be something like [B]Ana[/B] (blond) - [B]Anna3[/B] (the blackhaired one) - [B]Cheyenne[/B] - [B]Deborah[/B] (blond suits her just fine!) - [B]Selena[/B] (Thailand). An amazing choice in my book. Equally pretty in my book were [B]Catalina[/B] and [B]Erica[/B], but somehow I felt the chemistry was not there.
Other girls in attendance often mentioned on ISG would be [B]Juicy[/B] and her sister [B]Laura[/B]. For those into extreme bodies you had longlegged [B]Yasmine[/B], big round Brazilian-assed [B]Emilia[/B] (lost a few kilos from earlier this summer, but no worries, her big ass is still intact), and a relatively new big titted (no sillies) girl on a small frame (who I think is [B]Lora[/B]). Also a couple of kinky girls I know. I may make a more complete LU list somwhere later.
Plenty to choose from. At the end of the day I picked [B]Selena[/B] (Thailand). Finally a truly beautiful Asian girl at Oase. Presented herself as Selena Gomez with a cute smile. The resemblance is not there, but they are both facially VERY pretty. I admit I have never seen Selena Gomez naked, but trust me; Oase- Selenas attributes were thoroughly examined and it simpy made me too horny to find any flaws. Solid performance too. I got no complaints. 100 E /60. She will be in Oase a few more weeks before she takes a longer break.
I was at World on Saturday. I agree the LU is slowly picking up and I had a very good time. But my Monday visit at Oase was even better. So relaxed and fun with even better options available.
So how to conclude? There are so many snobs around here who think they need to find the correct day at any club to be able to find what they are looking for. And yeah, be sure to visit at 9 pm on Saturday night when there is a sausage fest and the Top 30 girls are all busy doing long rooms. That's really intelligent. Good luck! My suggestion is simply to not take timing that seriously. Being adventerous also means taking a few chances. Luck is still part of the game. Still only one way to find out: You have to go and check things yourself. Sometims even a rainy Monday in August can be good!
Happy Monday!
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2213176]What does GND mean?[/QUOTE]For me GND mean girls you can see at each corner in streets, so I don't pay for them. I pay for beauties with at least a bit of elegance and good manners, not for street prostitute behavior.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2213210]So how to conclude? There are so many snobs around here who think they need to find the correct day at any club to be able to find what they are looking for. And yeah, be sure to visit at 9 pm on Saturday night when there is a sausage fest and the Top 30 girls are all busy doing long rooms. That's really intelligent. Good luck! My suggestion is simply to not take timing that seriously. Being adventerous also means taking a few chances. Luck is still part of the game. Still only one way to find out: You have to go and check things yourself. Sometims even a rainy Monday in August can be good!
Happy Monday![/QUOTE]We are in the same boat sir! You never knows what kind of moment you will live in FKKland! After few time, around 80% of my sessions were mostly quite memorable at Oase or Sharks. At midday or one hour before closing, any day no matter weather conditions. Lucky? I don't know honestly. Maybe it's just a hunch too when I talk a bit with our ladies before share time. I hope to continue being lucky and meet again on my next trip with Adina just one more time (unfortunately, I couldn't contact her later). I hope to see her one day of October at 4 pm.
Keep your happy days (or at least try it)!
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"Being adventerous also means taking a few chances. Luck is still part of the game. Still only one way to find out: You have to go and check things yourself. Sometims even a rainy Monday in August can be good!
Quoted from Shark 16. This should be at the head of the FKK section. So many times we are asked when and where to go: such questions can never be answered sensibly.
Shark16. I would be interested to know if you wanted / got DFK and / or DATY.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2213432]
Shark16. I would be interested to know if you wanted / got DFK and / or DATY.[/QUOTE]Selena? I'd say LFK / DATY, yes. As this was my first time with her I would ask if she kisses, and she was positive. I did not pursue DFK at this time (my fault, not hers). Zero upselling, unless you consider it uncomfortale to answer a simple question like "How long do you want to stay with me?".
Since you are asking I have to tell you: I had my first meeting with Das-war-nix last weekend (now blond). I just had to find out what you and RN are talking about. Ha-ha! Nice girl (great eye contact in cowgirl), but with some clear limitations. Selena is a much better kisser! :)
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Daswarnix. You mean Damaris from World? She was a great kisser but RN had really bad time and as time went on she got worse.
Or were you referring to RN and I talking about Meggi at Oase. Your description sounds like her. Good eye contact but slippery as an eel service standard wise
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Damaris at World, yes. No tongue play at all with me. Just some pecks on the lips. Oh well.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2213476]Damaris at World, yes. No tongue play at all with me. Just some pecks on the lips. Oh well.[/QUOTE]I avoid her now.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2213460]Since you are asking I have to tell you: I had my first meeting with Das-war-nix last weekend (now blond). I just had to find out what you and RN are talking about. Ha-ha! Nice girl (great eye contact in cowgirl), but with some clear limitations. Selena is a much better kisser! :)[/QUOTE]That's Meggy who now has blonde short hair. Damaris = Daswarnix is still not performing at World. But getting chubbier.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2213473]Daswarnix. You mean Damaris from World? She was a great kisser but RN had really bad time and as time went on she got worse.
[/QUOTE]She must be considered: An Old Hag at World by now, no?
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2213210]You know "The Rules":
- Don't visit a FKK Club in August. The girls are an summer holiday leaving only the B- and C- team in the LU. There will be too many men, horrible F / M ratios, and a sweaty sausage fest.
- Don't visit on a Monday. This is the girls' off day after working hard in the weekend. Nobody of interest will be there.
- Don't visit Oase in bad weather during summer. You cannot enjoy the garden and it will be cramped inside. As the girls don't expect the guys to show up, they don't show up.
- Don't visit when all the ISG reports are negative.
So I decided to break all the rules this last Monday (a rainy day).
It's not the first time I have done this.
So how to conclude? There are so many snobs around here who think they need to find the correct day at any club to be able to find what they are looking for. And yeah, be sure to visit at 9 pm on Saturday night when there is a sausage fest and the Top 30 girls are all busy doing long rooms. That's really intelligent. Good luck! My suggestion is simply to not take timing that seriously. Being adventerous also means taking a few chances. Luck is still part of the game. Still only one way to find out: You have to go and check things yourself. Sometims even a rainy Monday in August can be good!
Happy Monday![/QUOTE]I decided to break 'the rules' myself, paid $420 (how ironic) to double the length of my journey and time away from this shithole.
I think all of your comments are correct and I am in total agreement even if I can not be there as much as regulars to truly judge the LU's but the worst date for a LU for a German man is 10 times as good if not more than the best LU in any US city on any day. In my case I have the added factor of the shittiest selection in Texas in 20 fucking years.
Your conclusion is excellent.
As to the ISG reports like anything on the internet it is not the Bible simply a collection of opinions from various guys for each of us to individually decipher and decide for ourselves. I am all for adventure, risk, luck etc. And you are darn right, have to go find out for yourself.
Since I started going almost three years ago on 3-7 week intervals I have always read something of doom and gloom on here from ' Lineups to Car Shows to The New Law and several things in between' yet each trip I go I end up having a blast and no matter where I go each trip is better than the prior. Even if a LU is thin to me I will simply adjust if I can not find several girls that day and fuck one a few times, ' all it takes is one' ; that actually has some advantages in certain ways especially if they are a tall German with gorgeous blue eyes and blond hair.
Yes, some days / weeks / months may be better than others but IMHO on any random day if you can't find 'someone' the issue isn't the club or the LU; it is the inability of the monger to properly navigate the waters he is sailing in that day to make the best of choppy waters.
5 of the girls present you listed are all more than doable in my book and Taoway's LU posted over in the Sharks thread (one maybe two names in particular) only solidifies my sentiments that the time of the season is nothing to worry. Rain or shine the sun is always shining IMHO and I will happily be out another 1600 or so Euros net.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2212470]I think to remember model type but long nose Katrin is Bulgarian, not Hungarian. For most of my experiences with Bulgarians, except Aylice and Andrea Sharks, lack of sensuality compare to Romanians.
Adela can be quite interesting .[/QUOTE]Yes, I think you're right about her being Bulgarian I just remembered her not being Romanian.
Seen a few reports suggesting Selena is Thai! She is definitely Romanian (went with her a while back when she first started) but she has a slight Eurasian look so is obviously using this as a marketing ploy.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2213575]Seen a few reports suggesting Selena is Thai! She is definitely Romanian (went with her a while back when she first started) but she has a slight Eurasian look so is obviously using this as a marketing ploy.[/QUOTE]Haha ...! Fooled again. I believe you! My Thai is limited, and she played me good on that one. Anyways, Selena is cute as hell and delivered a decent session in the sack. At the end of the day that's all I need.
I just realised she gets mixed reports, so maybe I was lucky on a slow day(?). Beware.
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Kowboy,
Thanks for the kind words.
We are sort of in the same boat. Germany is just so far above anything at home, so it's easy to be pleased. Still after many years.
Timing and knowing what to do / picking clubs to visit can sometimes be important (the automesse in September is one of them). But a lot of the talk on the forum seems redundant. Bad timing is mostly difficult to predict and is simply part of a learning process. And guys are SO different seeking different adventures. I would encourage gents to be adventurous and find out themselves. Reports can only get you so far. Lanthano is my hero at the moment, even though he ends up way too much in the RLD for my tastes! :)
Enjoy your trip.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2213575]Yes, I think you're right about her being Bulgarian I just remembered her not being Romanian.
Seen a few reports suggesting Selena is Thai! She is definitely Romanian (went with her a while back when she first started) but she has a slight Eurasian look so is obviously using this as a marketing ploy.[/QUOTE]At least, even not much sensual, but Katrin is honest, she always told me being Bulgarian, never to be Hungarian nor a Japanese Geisha. Only 1 room with her, 30 mn for 50 with french kiss, but mechanic.
About girls look, we don't all have same level of standard: For sure for Americans, slim GND are attractive compare to fat, with Botox and silicon American girls, like any blond is attractive for Asians, but when you come from Russian escorts, then not so easy to find a attractive look.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2213607]At least, even not much sensual, but Katrin is honest, she always told me being Bulgarian, never to be Hungarian nor a Japanese Geisha. Only 1 room with her, 30 mn for 50 with french kiss, but mechanic.
About girls look, we don't all have same level of standard: For sure for Americans, slim GND are attractive compare to fat, with Botox and silicon American girls, like any blond is attractive for Asians, but when you come from Russian escorts, then not so easy to find a attractive look.[/QUOTE]But since 2013, found some real beauties in FKK land, mostly Romanians, few Germans, Latvians, Hungarians, Polish, Bulgarians.
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2213176] What does GND mean?[/QUOTE]Girl Next Door is often used incorrectly on this board. Some will tell you that it means an average looking normal girl but the real definition of Girl Next Door doesn't really imply that. It merely implies a wholesome girl in everyday life rather than a dolled up super model. Girls next door can be in fact very hot.
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FKK in October.
I'll be visiting Oase, the palace and Sharks in mid October. Would why'all recommend to go on a Wednesday and Thursday or a Saturday Sunday? I really would like to go when there are a lot of choices and the ladies are more laid back. Any advice?
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[QUOTE=GreenMile1987;2213917]I'll be visiting Oase, the palace and Sharks in mid October. Would why'all recommend to go on a Wednesday and Thursday or a Saturday Sunday? I really would like to go when there are a lot of choices and the ladies are more laid back. Any advice?[/QUOTE]Sharks on Wednesday with entry 50 , and large casting. Sharks is also 50 on Sunday before 2 pm. Oase before 4 pm for entry 50. Best casting days are Friday and Saturday.
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[QUOTE=GreenMile1987;2213917]I'll be visiting Oase, the palace and Sharks in mid October. Would why'all recommend to go on a Wednesday and Thursday or a Saturday Sunday? I really would like to go when there are a lot of choices and the ladies are more laid back. Any advice?[/QUOTE]And may be fucking for free, let us be serious nobody is able to tell you what could be the LU in October even tomorrow is impossible.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2213842]Girl Next Door is often used incorrectly on this board. Some will tell you that it means an average looking normal girl but the real definition of Girl Next Door doesn't really imply that. It merely implies a wholesome girl in everyday life rather than a dolled up super model. Girls next door can be in fact very hot.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this correct answer. So often here, the term is used to describe girls that are less desirable. I believe the term originated by Gallery men's magazine some 40 years ago or so. It was a contest where photos of amateur women were submitted. The most attractive woman was then featured in a professional photospread in the magazine. To me, GND does in fact refers to very desirable women. Of course, it helps when you live in a neighborhood full of attractive women.
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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2213994]Thank you for this correct answer. So often here, the term is used to describe girls that are less desirable. I believe the term originated by Gallery men's magazine some 40 years ago or so. It was a contest where photos of amateur women were submitted. The most attractive woman was then featured in a professional photospread in the magazine. To me, GND does in fact refers to very desirable women. Of course, it helps when you live in a neighborhood full of attractive women.[/QUOTE]So, not many desirable GND for my eyes in clubs. Usually, except at Globe, less than 10% . Fortunately for me, 1 really desirable is enough for me.
More enjoyable for me to look for beauties and let for others girls You can see everywhere = my meaning for GND.
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According to this, GND does not imply ugly. Lack of flashiness. Cute but not necessarily sexy. Effortless beauty. Natural looking beauty. Wholesome, pure, charming: [URL]https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/the-girl-next-door/[/URL]
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The term was often used by Playboy to describe the cute girl living in your neighborhood (I was an avid reader back in the days before I fell into porn). All those girls were far from plain looking! A playmate from the nineties, one of Trump's romantic interests, Karen McDougal, was supposed to be a kindergarten teacher. I'd like to have this kind of teacher next door to me.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2214024]So, not many desirable GND for my eyes in clubs. Usually, except at Globe, less than 10% . Fortunately for me, 1 really desirable is enough for me.
More enjoyable for me to look for beauties and let for others girls You can see everywhere = my meaning for GND.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is perhaps the difference in our personal tastes and where we live. I see so many naturally beautiful women that I find desirable and would love to have intinate sexual relations with, or according to former US President Clinton, some non sexual relations, because I like a good BJ. Look around at the women next time you are at a ski lodge in Switzerland, Austria, Italy, France. Stop at a coffee shop in Brussels, Cologne or Paris and watch the sights. Look anywhere in Kiev, Lviv, Odessa. There are very desirable women in all of these places as well as around the world. The trick is most of us that are regulas in the FKKs aren't actually so desirable to these beautiful GNDs so we gravitate toward establishments where we can pay for sex with beautiful women. Beauty really in in the eye of the beholder. I personally really like an attractive natural redhead, certain African women, women of Asiand and Pacific Island decent, women of European decent and probably my favorites are women of mixed races. I have said this before, I'm so happy that my appreciation levels are where they are because this has given me the chance for some truly amazing experiences that I could have easily missed out on.
My current favorite is a prime example. I originally approached her on behalf of a friend who was interested, but he didn't session her that day. My next visit she came to me and teased me about my disappearing friend who I told her would come to see her later. I liked the comfortable conversation and smiles she gave me while teasing. I assessed her and she really wasn't my normal type. I decided to overlook the things that were atypical to my tastes because we seemed to have some chemistry that made me feel really happy when I was talking with her. Our first time in the room together turned out to be amazing. When we left the room and had to pass through the bar to the lockers it felt like everyone was looking at us. After my session several me approached me asking for details and saying I had a well used look about me, and I for sure had a euphoric post satifying sex high. I have been with her several session and eaach one has been great. The point I'm making is that had I followed my initial instinct, I would not have given her the chance and missed out on these great experiences. After recalling that initial visit I think I will get on the highway for a long drive to go visit her.
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Girl Next Door or GND
Girl Next Door or GND term made popular by Playboy. She is not glamorous, not exotic, not perfect, not remote, not worldly, not pretentious, but She is "beautiful. " The pretty girl you longed for when you were young and too timid to pursue. Think Meg Ryan, not Cindy Crawford. Another GND would be Britney Spears. And as always, Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder. My GND may / will NOT be Your GND.
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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2214134]Yes, this is perhaps the difference in our personal tastes and where we live. I see so many naturally beautiful women that I find desirable and would love to have intinate sexual relations with, or according to former US President Clinton, some non sexual relations, because I like a good BJ. Look around at the women next time you are at a ski lodge in Switzerland, Austria, Italy, France. Stop at a coffee shop in Brussels, Cologne or Paris and watch the sights. Look anywhere in Kiev, Lviv, Odessa. There are very desirable women in all of these places as well as around the world. The trick is most of us that are regulas in the FKKs aren't actually so desirable to these beautiful GNDs so we gravitate toward establishments where we can pay for sex with beautiful women. Beauty really in in the eye of the beholder. I personally really like an attractive natural redhead, certain African women, women of Asiand and Pacific Island decent, women of European decent and probably my favorites are women of mixed races. I have said this before, I'm so happy that my appreciation levels are where they are because this has given me the chance for some truly amazing experiences that I could have easily missed out on.
My current favorite is a prime example. I originally approached her on behalf of a friend who was interested, but he didn't session her that day. My next visit she came to me and teased me about my disappearing friend who I told her would come to see her later. I liked the comfortable conversation and smiles she gave me while teasing. I assessed her and she really wasn't my normal type..[/QUOTE]I fully agree with you, I see much prettier girls in Paris streets, in Alte Adige mountains, in Verbier, I don't even say in Milano or Saint Petersburg or Moscow, than not far from 90% of girls in clubs, why I have no reason to pay for them. I m not interested just by sex, I want pleasure, and pleasure is in my eyes and mind. Sometimes, because I use to control to stay on the edge, I don't finish, my LR ex told me: You don't like me anymore? Most often girls are disappointed if you don't finish, some say: I finished, I want you also finish, but I answer: I don't care about this, my real pleasure is in my mind, and I can t have pleasure with a girl I don't find attractive look, because then I don't like she touch me, even she is lovely and the best performer.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2202436]Brand new model faced Russian girl at Oase, Nadia. 21 yo slim with 165 cm, small boobs. She says she'll be here for 2 months before school starts, LOL. She's not super experienced but her orgasms are wet and real.[/QUOTE]Looks wise Nadia ticks all my boxes, she seemed like a nice girl but her English was limited. First time a girl has ever given me the condom to put on myself in a FKK. She told me she doesn't speak Romanian, must be difficult to make friends given almost every girl is Romanian.
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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2214134]Yes, this is perhaps the difference in our personal tastes and where we live. I see so many naturally beautiful women that I find desirable and would love to have intinate sexual relations with, or according to former US President Clinton, some non sexual relations, because I like a good BJ. Look around at the women next time you are at a ski lodge in Switzerland, Austria, Italy, France. Stop at a coffee shop in Brussels, Cologne or Paris and watch the sights. Look anywhere in Kiev, Lviv, Odessa. There are very desirable women in all of these places as well as around the world. The trick is most of us that are regulas in the FKKs aren't actually so desirable to these beautiful GNDs so we gravitate toward establishments where we can pay for sex with beautiful women. Beauty really in in the eye of the beholder. I personally really like an attractive natural redhead, certain African women, women of Asiand and Pacific Island decent, women of European decent and probably my favorites are women of mixed races. I have said this before, I'm so happy that my appreciation levels are where they are because this has given me the chance for some truly amazing experiences that I could have easily missed out on.
My current favorite is a prime example. I originally approached her on behalf of a friend who was interested, but he didn't session her that day. My next visit she came to me and teased me about my disappearing friend who I told her would come to see her later. I liked the comfortable conversation and smiles she gave me while teasing. I assessed her and she really wasn't my normal type. I decided to overlook the things that were atypical to my tastes because we seemed to have some chemistry that made me feel really happy when I was talking with her. Our first time in the room together turned out to be amazing..[/QUOTE]Be careful not to fall in love. Yes chemistry is the key for great sex.
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Aug 22 Wednesday
6th stop of my FKK vacation. Afternoon line up was just OK, with a couple of girls being my type. I was feeling a little disappointed as I had high expectation to Oase. Around dinner time, the night shift girls were coming up and quite a few are very good. However, there came a lot new guests too and it became almost impossible to grab any good looking girl, as they would be taken as soon as they finish a session. You have to stay at the bar (where the girls take and return keys of rooms) in order to catch a girl you like. If you wait in the lounge, the girls wouldn't even have a chance to reach you.
I managed to had 5 sessions through out the day. Overall good service. Some upselling but acceptable.
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[QUOTE=Kdnyc25;2215612]6th stop of my FKK vacation. Afternoon line up was just OK, with a couple of girls being my type. I was feeling a little disappointed as I had high expectation to Oase. Around dinner time, the night shift girls were coming up and quite a few are very good. However, there came a lot new guests too and it became almost impossible to grab any good looking girl, as they would be taken as soon as they finish a session. You have to stay at the bar (where the girls take and return keys of rooms) in order to catch a girl you like. If you wait in the lounge, the girls wouldn't even have a chance to reach you.
I managed to had 5 sessions through out the day. Overall good service. Some upselling but acceptable.[/QUOTE]Having to fight for a prostitute, being the 10th or more guys of the day, not at all my cup of tea, better to go bicycle or swimming.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2214791]First time a girl has ever given me the condom to put on myself in a FKK.[/QUOTE]This happened to me in a different way once a girl to me in Sharks didn't want to remove the condom on me and said why don't you don't it yourself, All Romanian and Bulgarian Girls do it. This girl who I went with was German.
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Hit Oase yesterday around 2p. About 12 ladies were present. Sat back and relaxed and waited for more ladies to appear. About 6p the numbers had increased and I figured I had seen the LU for the day. Platinum Blonde Natasha from Moldova caught my eye, This babe has a Brazilian like ass, unfortunately she doesn't enjoy backdoor play. Lots of fun in the non a/c room with her. I got the GFE lite version for €100. No issue ref. BBBJ. Oase buffet was weak, only had sausages as the meat option.
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Day 2:
After a disappointing night at Sharks, my new acquittances and I decided to try Oase the next day. Despite my frequent trip to Frankfurt, this was in fact my first visit to Oase and it turned out to be eventful but not in a good way.
We got there in the early afternoon on Wednesday and there were already a decent number of cars parked there. Upon entry, the receptionist would ask us if this was our first time, and if so, she would explain the pricing structure. Pretty much standard stuff, 50 euros per 30 minutes, additional 50 to bring it to finish in the mouth, extra 100 for anal. The fact that she had to explain this made me wonder if there had been many misunderstandings in the past.
Anyway, with the weather still warm outside, we just took our time and chill out at the outdoor backyard. Later on, I started out with a Romanian girl from Constanza who looked like the girl next door. I usually avoid girls who look like hardened pros and very much prefer those where I can establish a chemistry. I can't remember her name, but know that she just graduated from a nursing school recently in Romania two weeks ago. She asked me how long I would like, and my standard answer would always be, It depends and I will let you know when I would like to stop. I find this approach to work well, since they would not rush me and they know that my duration of stay will depend on their service levels. Also, it will also not hurt to wear a watch, any watch. I ended up 30 minutes + CIM with her and she left happy.
By the way, I would recommend that you clarify with the girls what your expectations are before you go the room with the girls. I have to mention DFK and BBJ prior so that they know what to expect from me. I usually don't have to do this in NRW clubs, since all these are expected where their service level is much higher.
Now the next session is what rattled me and I had to make a scene with the manager to make a point for these girls not to take advantage of me or anyone like me in the future.
The next girl (Anastasia) I went with was also from Romania but from Transylvania. She claimed to be 19 years old which was verified by her showing me her German government issued paper for these working girls. I find it interesting that the authorities are cognizant enough to help them maintain their privacy by just displaying the first name, photo and date of birth as personable identifiable info. She told me that she would have to pay a flat tax of 200 per week.
Anyway, she was fun to be with at least initially but not until the end. We started out with the first 30 minutes in the room, and later did our stuff outside in the backyard in one of those couches under the cover of the night. Total time spent was slightly less than 1. 5 hours and with CIM the price ought to come to 200. However, she insisted that I pay her 250, and it made my blood boil. I was actually planning to stay with her much longer, and have mentioned a few times that I would pay for her time accordingly. However with this stunt, I called for a complete stop.
I stormed off to the front desk and demanded to see the manager. I asked the manager to tell me specifically how much it is for 1. 5 hours + CIM, and she said 200. I can only guess that the manager realized that it was one of those tricks the girls pull on unsuspecting customer, and gave her a public scolding about what the pricing should be. Anyway, I left the money on the counter, without even a single acknowledgement to that girl and told the manager in front of that girl that I could have easily spent a few hours with her if not for this stupid stunt. I can be generous if I want but definitely do not like to be treated as a sucker.
Anyway, I was no longer in the mood and was done with Oase for that day.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2217543]The next girl (Anastasia) I went with was also from Romania but from Transylvania. She claimed to be 19 years old which was verified by her showing me her German government issued paper for these working girls. I find it interesting that the authorities are cognizant enough to help them maintain their privacy by just displaying the first name, photo and date of birth as personable identifiable info.[/QUOTE]Each girl actually has two of those tri-fold paper licenses. One has their pseudonym for privacy purposes and the other one has their official legal name. Both pieces of paper are otherwise identical. This privacy feature is written into the "new" law.
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Hi,
I have visit Oase for the first time two months ago on a Friday night and it was amazing. Started at 7 pm until 3 am and the place was packed.
Did 5 sessions all of them were nice except for one which tries to upsell after getting into the room, she is from Moldova, barbie figure, silicon everywhere, good looker but bad attitude, after telling her I only wanted a 30 minutes session she told me ok we will have sex but you do not touch me at all well how the hell we will do it, anyway it killed the buzz and I told her just to stop and left the room.
So now I am in Frankfurt for 4 nights and for sure going Oase on Thursday and Friday day and night but I am wondering how do Tuesday and Wednesday nights look like in Oase. Should I try Sharks or different FKK just for a change? Any recommendations?
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Keshtaz;2217691]Hi,
I have visit Oase for the first time two months ago on a Friday night and it was amazing. Started at 7 pm until 3 am and the place was packed.
Did 5 sessions all of them were nice except for one which tries to upsell after getting into the room, she is from Moldova, barbie figure, silicon everywhere, good looker but bad attitude, after telling her I only wanted a 30 minutes session she told me ok we will have sex but you do not touch me at all well how the hell we will do it, anyway it killed the buzz and I told her just to stop and left the room.
So now I am in Frankfurt for 4 nights and for sure going Oase on Thursday and Friday day and night but I am wondering how do Tuesday and Wednesday nights look like in Oase. Should I try Sharks or different FKK just for a change? Any recommendations?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]5 sessions in a raw, congratulations!
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Thinnest pale skin blonde at Oase
What is the name of the impossibly thin blonde regular at Oase? Almost platinum blonde, pale skin, seldom smiles, smoker, no tattoos, A-cups, may be Romanian. About 5'10", probably one of the thinnest girls there, almost Olive Oyl proportions. Starts in the afternoon. Works often. I've seen her on almost all of my occasional visits.
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[QUOTE=Keshtaz;2217691]Hi,
I have visit Oase for the first time two months ago on a Friday night and it was amazing. Started at 7 pm until 3 am and the place was packed.
Did 5 sessions all of them were nice except for one which tries to upsell after getting into the room, she is from Moldova, barbie figure, silicon everywhere, good looker but bad attitude, after telling her I only wanted a 30 minutes session she told me ok we will have sex but you do not touch me at all well how the hell we will do it, anyway it killed the buzz and I told her just to stop and left the room.
So now I am in Frankfurt for 4 nights and for sure going Oase on Thursday and Friday day and night but I am wondering how do Tuesday and Wednesday nights look like in Oase. Should I try Sharks or different FKK just for a change? Any recommendations?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Yes you should try other clubs, the risk is high that you will get bored at Oase, may be Shark and manhattan could be a nice alternativ.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2217543]Anyway, she was fun to be with at least initially but not until the end. We started out with the first 30 minutes in the room, and later did our stuff outside in the backyard in one of those couches under the cover of the night. Total time spent was slightly less than 1. 5 hours and with CIM the price ought to come to 200. However, she insisted that I pay her 250, and it made my blood boil.[/QUOTE]Did she explain or try to justify what the extra €50 was supposed to be paying for. I know some ladies who upsell for public acts. I'm also a bit surprised that the club staff openly stated the price for CIM. This has been one of the largest changes I've noticed since the latest legislation came into play. Behind the scenes many clubs tell the girls that they are independents and to do what they want and to make the clients happy, but publicly the fly the sign stating the services that are illegal and point it out to the clients when they pay entry. In this manner, the club can escape prosecution in cases where a raid may discover illegal services being offered. As I understand, If a club covers their bases their liability risk is zero, the lady has a small liability risk and the risk to the male client is substantial.
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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2218033]Did she explain or try to justify what the extra 50 was supposed to be paying for. I know some ladies who upsell for public acts. I'm also a bit surprised that the club staff openly stated the price for CIM. This has been one of the largest changes I've noticed since the latest legislation came into play. Behind the scenes many clubs tell the girls that they are independents and to do what they want and to make the clients happy, but publicly the fly the sign stating the services that are illegal and point it out to the clients when they pay entry. In this manner, the club can escape prosecution in cases where a raid may discover illegal services being offered. As I understand, If a club covers their bases their liability risk is zero, the lady has a small liability risk and the risk to the male client is substantial.[/QUOTE]She claimed that I had sex with her two times. I had no idea what that meant, do they justify this by me coming two times, changing condoms twice or changing position twice. I find this arbitrary that was what pissed me off. As far as I am concerned, I pay for her time and it should be just that. Also, I just came once.
Also the manager did lecture the girl that for one hour, I am entitled to sex twice. Plus I had her for 1. 5 hours. Again, I find it confusing. Anyway, never had I had such issues with services in NRW clubs, only the ones in and around Frankfurt.
By the way, the term the manager used was bring it to finish in the mouth. It can also be interpreted as coming in the condom in the mouth I guess, who knows.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2218194]She claimed that I had sex with her two times. I had no idea what that meant, do they justify this by me coming two times, changing condoms twice or changing position twice. I find this arbitrary that was what pissed me off. As far as I am concerned, I pay for her time and it should be just that. Also, I just came once.
Also the manager did lecture the girl that for one hour, I am entitled to sex twice. Plus I had her for 1. 5 hours. Again, I find it confusing. Anyway, never had I had such issues with services in NRW clubs, only the ones in and around Frankfurt.
By the way, the term the manager used was bring it to finish in the mouth. It can also be interpreted as coming in the condom in the mouth I guess, who knows.[/QUOTE]If stopping and starting again or changing condemns cost an extra €50 I would have to pay double on almost every session, if not triple. At least the manager stayed on your side and you didn't get met by security upon your exit. Still, it's very frustrating when you have a good chemistry with a lady and it gets tanked like this.
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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2218033]Did she explain or try to justify what the extra 50 was supposed to be paying for. I know some ladies who upsell for public acts. I'm also a bit surprised that the club staff openly stated the price for CIM. This has been one of the largest changes I've noticed since the latest legislation came into play. Behind the scenes many clubs tell the girls that they are independents and to do what they want and to make the clients happy, but publicly the fly the sign stating the services that are illegal and point it out to the clients when they pay entry. In this manner, the club can escape prosecution in cases where a raid may discover illegal services being offered. As I understand, If a club covers their bases their liability risk is zero, the lady has a small liability risk and the risk to the male client is substantial.[/QUOTE]The risk is 0, who cares about the health of prostitutes coming from Romania, the target of the new law is to reduce the offer by creating more administrative pressure to the girls and also to made them pay taxes.
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Is Anastasia a bit baby face with a bit chubby body around belly and ass?
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Sharks or Oase on Tuesday?
When is lingerie day at Oase? Hearing it's Tuesday at sharks. So trying to decide to hit Oase on Tuesday or Sharks. Staying thru Sat so will hit both eventually.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2217543]Day 2:
After a disappointing night at Sharks, my new acquittances and I decided to try Oase the next day. Despite my frequent trip to Frankfurt, this was in fact my first visit to Oase and it turned out to be eventful but not in a good way.
We got there in the early afternoon on Wednesday and there were already a decent number of cars parked there. Upon entry, the receptionist would ask us if this was our first time, and if so, she would explain the pricing structure. Pretty much standard stuff, 50 euros per 30 minutes, additional 50 to bring it to finish in the mouth, extra 100 for anal. The fact that she had to explain this made me wonder if there had been many misunderstandings in the past.
I stormed off to the front desk and demanded to see the manager. I asked the manager to tell me specifically how much it is for 1. 5 hours + CIM, and she said 200. I can only guess that the manager realized that it was one of those tricks the girls pull on unsuspecting customer, and gave her a public scolding about what the pricing should be. Anyway, I left the money on the counter, without even a single acknowledgement to that girl and told the manager in front of that girl that I could have easily spent a few hours with her if not for this stupid stunt. I can be generous if I want but definitely do not like to be treated as a sucker.
.[/QUOTE]I had visited Oase 5 or 6 times prior to 2012. It used to be the happiest place on Earth. I was there March of 2017 and I ran into the same shit that you reported. You were right to go to the manager. Good for you. Left me know if you find anything worth while. I went to Sharks in March of this year and liked it very much but I went in with a different attitude and that helped. I return in two weeks and I was thinking about another try at Oase if the weather is nice outdoors but after reading your report I may just skip it.
[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2217543]
I can't remember her name, but know that she just graduated from a nursing school recently in Romania two weeks ago.
.[/QUOTE]Are you kidding me? Graduate from nursing school and then go work at the FKK? Well, it is sort of like health care.
Good report!
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2217543]Day 2:
After a disappointing night at Sharks, my new acquittances and I decided to try Oase the next day. Despite my frequent trip to Frankfurt, this was in fact my first visit to Oase and it turned out to be eventful but not in a good way.
We got there in the early afternoon on Wednesday and there were already a decent number of cars parked there. Upon entry, the receptionist would ask us if this was our first time, and if so, she would explain the pricing structure. Pretty much standard stuff, 50 euros per 30 minutes, additional 50 to bring it to finish in the mouth, extra 100 for anal. The fact that she had to explain this made me wonder if there had been many misunderstandings in the past..[/QUOTE]Since the 1st July 2017 the girls are free to ask the price they want, the management could face serious issues if they try to impose a price structure.
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[QUOTE=Pizzaguy;2219290]When is lingerie day at Oase?[/QUOTE]Thursday. Still. So.
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Just left FKK Oase
Hey guys,
I arrived at Oase around 3:30 PM, so I got the 50 Euro entry fee. Walked around and chilled ans relaxed. It was slow so the women were aggressive. At around 5:30, I settled with a Brazilian outside in the garden. It was pretty fun smashing out in the other. One customer kept walking back and forth to watch us. My Brazilian's friend yells at him and says "Hey there's live porno inside you know." After more pumping, she pulls off the hat and give me a BBBJ to finish in her mouth. I later hung out with a guy and smoked shisha. I must say, he's pussy repellent. He would never seal the deal but kept pointing out all the chicks he previously smashed. I hate hanging with guys like that because the chicks think I'm a broke ass by association. I eventually distanced myself away from the guy. I must say, as far as facility, Oase is better than Sharks. But Sharks has hotter women or they did this weekend. I eventually met a Romanian girl with a big ass. Went to the back and she asks "How much you give me?" In which I shockingly replied "50". I always tell them, I give everyone 50 to try them out. Once I know we got good chemistry and the service is good, I will definitely add extras. Any way, she does a BBBJ, climbs on top for all of 30 seconds. I enjoy a good ride but I can't stand when it's cut short. I know it may seem like a jerk but I'm paying you, you should be the one doing the work. Anyway, I do doggy and she keeps moaning "Oh Mamacita". In my head I'm thinking, "You must not know what that word means or how to use it", considering I speak spanish as well. I was walking around and this goddess from Ghana with a big ass grabs me and whispers "You know black pussy is the best right? I decided to give her a try and boy was I amazed. First her ass was round and solid. She then gave me a long BBBJ (no negotiation or request, just immediately went to my man downstairs without a hat), then she rides me porn style as in squatting over my junk and slamming down on it. We switched to doggie and missionary for the finish. After I was done, I asked how much I owed her and she said 50. I quickly ran to get the money and pay her before she changes her mind considering I got a BBBJ. I walked around ate and then did a repeat with the chick from Ghana again. She told me this was her second night working at the club, which probably explains why she's giving me BBBJ without requesting an up sell. She also said she hates the taste of the condom as well. Don't screw her up for all the other mongers out there guys.
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Oase in October.
I visited Oase and Shark in July and enjoyed both but I caught Oase on a warm day and the wide open outdoors really won it for me. Both places had attractive women but I overall enjoyed Oase slightly better. My question is when it gets colder say in October or November, what happens to the outdoor area. I feel without the outdoor Oase is significantly smaller than Shark.
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Any names? Especially the girl from Ghana? Straight long hair, a wig of course?
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Nurse!
"Are you kidding me? Graduate from nursing school and then go work at the FKK? Well, it is sort of like health care."
Its possible! If you have the "balls" to deal with the body contact and body fluid cleaning that comes direct with junior nursing. Its a comparatively small step to sharing your own body. A nurse in Rom will probably be earning 300 Euro / month. (Yes, 300 Euro per month.) 20 years from now (maybe sooner) the Rom economy will be closer to western euro level. Who will "man" the FKK then?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2218355]Is Anastasia a bit baby face with a bit chubby body around belly and ass?[/QUOTE]Long blond hair and white skin. Fat on ass and belly.
Some other girls also took fat, like my friends marmots in my mountains, maybe to resist to German winter.
Adina / Marina not sittiing anymore close to TV, Michele / Shayen, Carla now dark blond, Roxana, Vera. Simona claiming to be Russian but answering she only speak Russian in room, she is right because when we speak about KGB or Putin, better to be in private, these girls really think we are as stupid. Also lack of elegance and class for Oase girls. Some black girls, 1 quite pretty, Naomi from Ghana.
Indian look girl is small, about 40 kgs, tattoo all along her right leg.
Slow business Saturday, just a pit stop to recover, when flog and rain in Gran San Bernardino, so no climbing on very beautiful Aosta side. Then moved to disappointing Sharks where BBQ party, but both far below my Globe standards.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2219563]Long blond hair and white skin. Fat on ass and belly.[/QUOTE]Anistasia has put on a lot of weight over years. She used to look much like the actress Christine Taylor (Ben Stiller's wife), and she it turned me on! But, not anymore.
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[QUOTE=TheRugdr;2219786]Anistasia has put on a lot of weight over years. She used to look much like the actress Christine Taylor (Ben Stiller's wife), and she it turned me on! But, not anymore.[/QUOTE]I think it's not the same Anastasia. The Anastasia reported by Sirioja is around 19/20 yo, has a baby face and round cheeks.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2219563]Long blond hair and white skin. Fat on ass and belly.
Some other girls also took fat, like my friends marmots in my mountains, maybe to resist to German winter.
Adina / Marina not sittiing anymore close to TV, Michele / Shayen, Carla now dark blond, Roxana, Vera. Simona claiming to be Russian but answering she only speak Russian in room, she is right because when we speak about KGB or Putin, better to be in private, these girls really think we are as stupid. Also lack of elegance and class for Oase girls. Some black girls, 1 quite pretty, Naomi from Ghana.
Indian look girl is small, about 40 kgs, tattoo all along her right leg.
Slow business Saturday, just a pit stop to recover, when flog and rain in Gran San Bernardino, so no climbing on very beautiful Aosta side. Then moved to disappointing Sharks where BBQ party, but both far below my Globe standards.[/QUOTE]BBQ at Shark is very bad at least for me, cheap food, grilled with bad oil.
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2219925]I think it's not the same Anastasia. The Anastasia reported by Sirioja is around 19/20 yo, has a baby face and round cheeks.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think she is for less than 1 year at Oase, I would say 19 yo, small, not slim, long blond hair with baby face, white skin, little girl type, not my kind of woman type. I need women for look and for sensuality in bed, not seen on this Saturday until 7.30 pm. Some girls arrive at about 7 pm.
Quite good foods for breakfast and diner, even no more fruit juices.
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[QUOTE=Dubner32;2219561]"Are you kidding me? Graduate from nursing school and then go work at the FKK? Well, it is sort of like health care."
Its possible! If you have the "balls" to deal with the body contact and body fluid cleaning that comes direct with junior nursing. Its a comparatively small step to sharing your own body. A nurse in Rom will probably be earning 300 Euro / month. (Yes, 300 Euro per month.) 20 years from now (maybe sooner) the Rom economy will be closer to western euro level. Who will "man" the FKK then?[/QUOTE]Good point. That will be a cold day.
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[QUOTE=Dubner32;2219561]"Are you kidding me? Graduate from nursing school and then go work at the FKK? Well, it is sort of like health care."[/QUOTE]Last year during the summer I met an RO in NRW who claimed to be a student studying to be a medical doctor specializing in cardiology. I asked her what she was doing working in the club and she replied that she wasn't a doctor yet then she explained that in two months in the club, she could make close to one years salary. Because of my unique knowledge of cardiology and cardiac medications I decided to give her a quiz. I listed a group of meds and asked her, if a patient is taking these meds. First she went down the heart meds list and, then the secondary meds list. She said this person is really unhealthy. She listed what each med was used to treat and then made a diagnosis. She was 100% on the meds but missed one surgical procedure that had been performed on the patient. If I had to guess, I would say 100% she is a medical student, minimum pharmacist, but quite possibly studying to become a cardiologist. After I had tested her I asked if she wanted to go play doctor. She agreed under one circumstance, she always got to be the doctor.
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[QUOTE=Dubner32;2219561]"Are you kidding me? Graduate from nursing school and then go work at the FKK? Well, it is sort of like health care."
Its possible! If you have the "balls" to deal with the body contact and body fluid cleaning that comes direct with junior nursing. Its a comparatively small step to sharing your own body. A nurse in Rom will probably be earning 300 Euro / month. (Yes, 300 Euro per month.) 20 years from now (maybe sooner) the Rom economy will be closer to western euro level. Who will "man" the FKK then?[/QUOTE]No sugar daddy available in Roumania, or in Germany? Let us be a little be serious it is a long time that the sexy girls and clever one have found a rich guy ready to support them, only the stupid one are in the clubs and being fucked every day by every one.
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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2220044]Last year during the summer I met an RO in NRW who claimed to be a student studying to be a medical doctor specializing in cardiology. I asked her what she was doing working in the club and she replied that she wasn't a doctor yet then she explained that in two months in the club, she could make close to one years salary. Because of my unique knowledge of cardiology and cardiac medications I decided to give her a quiz. I listed a group of meds and asked her, if a patient is taking these meds. First she went down the heart meds list and, then the secondary meds list. She said this person is really unhealthy. She listed what each med was used to treat and then made a diagnosis. She was 100% on the meds but missed one surgical procedure that had been performed on the patient. If I had to guess, I would say 100% she is a medical student, minimum pharmacist, but quite possibly studying to become a cardiologist. After I had tested her I asked if she wanted to go play doctor. She agreed under one circumstance, she always got to be the doctor.[/QUOTE]
You are right. Quite a few girls that I have met over the years in FKK are in fact highly educated, either in the process of obtaining their college degree or having already obtained one. They usually get involved in this line of work because it is easy money for them not just for the Romanians but also for the German girls. However, I believe the highly educated ones may be geared more towards the escorts side.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2220203]You are right. Quite a few girls that I have met over the years in FKK are in fact highly educated, either in the process of obtaining their college degree or having already obtained one. They usually get involved in this line of work because it is easy money for them not just for the Romanians but also for the German girls. However, I believe the highly educated ones may be geared more towards the escorts side.[/QUOTE]For me, it's a plus to find girls with dreams to follow. Sometimes, you can get a very interesting conversation and find behind a naked body a smart girl. Many Romanian beauties are multilingual speakers as a proof of their intelligence. It's good to know that we are contributing a bit to reach their goals.
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It happens. One girl I knew had been a nurse, moved country to Germany, worked in FKK and used the capital to finance training for a specialised care qualification in Germany. Now even employs somebody.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2220203]You are right. Quite a few girls that I have met over the years in FKK are in fact highly educated, either in the process of obtaining their college degree or having already obtained one. They usually get involved in this line of work because it is easy money for them not just for the Romanians but also for the German girls. However, I believe the highly educated ones may be geared more towards the escorts side.[/QUOTE]They usually get involved by a loverboy sending them to make money, destroying their studies and future normal life.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2220370]It happens. One girl I knew had been a nurse, moved country to Germany, worked in FKK and used the capital to finance training for a specialised care qualification in Germany. Now even employs somebody.[/QUOTE]This case is a exception, usually educated girls or students are doing escort and don t want to be fucked 10 or 20 times every day by any type of guys but more and more with migration backgrounds, not able to control their testosterone.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2220470]They usually get involved by a loverboy sending them to make money, destroying their studies and future normal life.[/QUOTE]What do you think of my theory?
"Best girls are single girls with no loverboys, or moms with kids needing to be supported".
If there is a loverboy and no babies involved, what they do in the room is lacking at a higher rate in average. Because she feels committed to her loverboy and not the job / clients.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2220470]They usually get involved by a loverboy sending them to make money, destroying their studies and future normal life.[/QUOTE]I bow to your experience and am sure you are right as you know much more about the girls than me, but what you say is very depressing. What you say totally is consistent with the overcharging cartels we now see in many places.
Is your statement based on what particular girls have told you about themselves?
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2220203]Quite a few girls that I have met over the years in FKK are in fact highly educated, either in the process of obtaining their college degree or having already obtained one. [/QUOTE]I've met a few too. It's surprising when they reveal that part of themselves -- but sometimes you can just tell when a person is smarter, has that spark in their eyes. It's a mixed bag though. One of them rightfully pointed out she'd done all this schooling, but was competing (and sometimes outcompeted) by dumb girls with zero education. I can see how that might be frustrating.
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2219925]I think it's not the same Anastasia. The Anastasia reported by Sirioja is around 19/20 yo, has a baby face and round cheeks.[/QUOTE]I had a young-looking, baby face, darker skin blonde, slightly chubby Anastasia approach me recently.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2220470]They usually get involved by a loverboy sending them to make money, destroying their studies and future normal life.[/QUOTE]That's just as well because I need girls more in FKKs than I need them polishing their arses in some school.
All the same it gets me thinking about how cushy life can be as a female. Putting in time in a club for good money to get themselves through college instead of pushing shopping carts or flipping burgers.
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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2220044]Last year during the summer I met an RO in NRW who claimed to be a student studying to be a medical doctor specializing in cardiology.[/QUOTE]I met one RO working girl in Switzerland who was studying medicine, couldn't test her like you did, but I believed her, I saw pictures of her with colleagues in the university and in hospitals (I know the city where she was studying). She was definitely very intelligent and motivated.
I was impressed as well by a girl who was doing a masters degree in electronics. Talking with a fully nude 20 something girl about Jefimenko's equations was some experience.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2219563]Long blond hair and white skin. Fat on ass and belly.
Some other girls also took fat, like my friends marmots in my mountains, maybe to resist to German winter.
Adina / Marina not sittiing anymore close to TV, Michele / Shayen, Carla now dark blond, Roxana, Vera. Simona claiming to be Russian but answering she only speak Russian in room, she is right because when we speak about KGB or Putin, better to be in private, these girls really think we are as stupid. Also lack of elegance and class for Oase girls. Some black girls, 1 quite pretty, Naomi from Ghana.
Indian look girl is small, about 40 kgs, tattoo all along her right leg.
Slow business Saturday, just a pit stop to recover, when flog and rain in Gran San Bernardino, so no climbing on very beautiful Aosta side. Then moved to disappointing Sharks where BBQ party, but both far below my Globe standards.[/QUOTE]Is there any Russian in Oase? I saw a girl called Natasha. Well build with dark hair. Not my type. Keep chatting with me though I have no interest in her.
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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2220737]I met one RO working girl in Switzerland who was studying medicine, couldn't test her like you did, but I believed her, I saw pictures of her with colleagues in the university and in hospitals (I know the city where she was studying). She was definitely very intelligent and motivated.
I was impressed as well by a girl who was doing a masters degree in electronics. Talking with a fully nude 20 something girl about Jefimenko's equations was some experience.[/QUOTE]Possible but really a exception, the clever girls do escort and are not working in a club. Just image that you are getting fucked every day 10 or 20 times in your ass wholes by every one.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2220753]Is there any Russian in Oase? I saw a girl called Natasha. Well build with dark hair. Not my type. Keep chatting with me though I have no interest in her.[/QUOTE]Many claimed Russians in FKK land, but they are not able to speak Russian in brothels. Each time I meet a real Russian, she is so happy when I speak Russian to her.
Also, most of Russian girls don't like Romanians or Moldavians or even Ukrainians. I know how Russians look at me when I tell them I like Romanian girls.
I don't think Simona is Russian, even a bit the look.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2220649]I bow to your experience and am sure you are right as you know much more about the girls than me, but what you say is very depressing. What you say totally is consistent with the overcharging cartels we now see in many places.
Is your statement based on what particular girls have told you about themselves?
Cheers.[/QUOTE]The clear majority of girls have boyfriends. Some admits it, while some tries to hide it. A few weeks ago I was with girl I know quite well in FKK's for a few years, who tried to hide her having had a second baby recently. Still acting as if she is single and have left her guy. But that belly cannot be faked. It would be a biological impossibility. Many girls also hide their facebook accounts because there they have clear pictures together with their family. Many FKK girls are married wives. To them it is like a job to create the illusion of being single towards the customers. And that might be all fine. At least until we start seeing the negative sides of this such as reduced interaction. And the girls who have boyfriends usually re in such a majority that their demands on withheld activities / unionisation trumps that of integrity and customer friendliness. I personally believe this is due to the girls being afraid of the feeling they can get of promiscuity. Simply put, their minds are tuned correctly. And they are afraid of their boyfriends getting angry at them if they sense it. In addition, many boyfriends / pimps being let into the clubs act as gatekeepers. They talk to other pimps / boyfriends, and the girls are afraid of what is being said. I once had one FKK girl being scared in the room because she was afraid some Romanian or turk guy was watching us. So she checked the window 5 times.
A few girls (not many) have told me they cannot have a boyfriend while doing this job. And their reasoning is exactly the points I am making. They admit how that would affect their customer interaction because they feel they would save something extra for their boyfriends. Now I don't know for sure if this idea stems from the girls, or if it is their boyfriends who demand them to hold back. One girl once told me however that she needed to save her ass for her boyfriend. Perhaps her boyfriend had a small dick, so he didn't feel anything when doing her in her pussy.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2220664]I've met a few too. It's surprising when they reveal that part of themselves -- but sometimes you can just tell when a person is smarter, has that spark in their eyes. It's a mixed bag though. One of them rightfully pointed out she'd done all this schooling, but was competing (and sometimes outcompeted) by dumb girls with zero education. I can see how that might be frustrating.[/QUOTE]Well many girls speak several languages, so it is clear that they are smart. Cheyenne for example. Question is just how they use their smartness, and if it is to our advantage or disadvantage. Sometimes the girls who think they are smart, and are educated in one field of study, might not be the brightest in other fields, such as sales psychology etc.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2220713]That's just as well because I need girls more in FKKs than I need them polishing their arses in some school.
All the same it gets me thinking about how cushy life can be as a female. Putting in time in a club for good money to get themselves through college instead of pushing shopping carts or flipping burgers.[/QUOTE]Well put. Besides the current educational paradigm is outdated and highly useless anyway:
[URL]https://youtu.be/zDZFcDGpL4U[/URL]
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Pistons. Well summarised. Yes, everything you say is correct so far as I can tell from the girls I have known. With of course some exceptions.
RN was making a more specific point and I was reacting with sadness that any girl at college should be "encouraged" into prostitution and then subsequently just be second fiddle to the "lover boy", losing all chance of a second career. I am happy that the very tiny number of girls (maybe four or five) I have known very very well did not follow this pattern.
Cheers.
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XXL. Yes. Loads of girls have told me they think prostitution is a huge improvement on the other career options available to them. Just a shame that it is not a socially acceptable choice for western European girls.
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Prostitution is not a socially acceptable choice for girls in most places on this planet. It might perhaps be more tolerated (to a small degree) in some places than others but that's about it.
And prostitution is not a socially acceptable choice for most men either Western European or otherwise.
It fills a need almost universally wanted and needed, and does not impact / involve the rest of the society in anyway except the participants; but it is so broadly reviled and outlawed in so many places and the sentences given are so harsh on par or worse than those for horrendous crimes. Shows that humanity has a lot of evolution still.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2220975]XXL. Yes. Loads of girls have told me they think prostitution is a huge improvement on the other career options available to them. Just a shame that it is not a socially acceptable choice for western European girls.[/QUOTE]What is the percentage of the prostitutes, being married, having a BF or a pimp probably over 70 percent, this are my personal figures valid only for Germany. What is the future for the big majority of the prostitutes after 5 or 10 years in the job, very poor. What are the girls learning in this job nothing except sucking and being fucked. Being a prostitute is not a normal job and is not without strong negative consequences on the mental health of the girls, may be that could be a reason why it is not acceptable for the society to be a prostitute.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2220753]Is there any Russian in Oase? I saw a girl called Natasha. Well build with dark hair. Not my type. Keep chatting with me though I have no interest in her.[/QUOTE]Here is a quote from a report I wrote in 2017. I session with a girl named Karina that said she was Russian:
"Session 1 Karina. Tall porn-star looking Russian blonde bombshell with fake the's and slight almond shaped eyes. Looks 9 service 5 Problem: Upcharging.
I saw Karina by the lockers getting paid by an Italiano. She was porn star attractive with a face and hair like Helen Hunt. ".
At least there are girls that say they are Russian. Maybe Sirioja kows her? I felt like I was in a cab with a meter running. The price kept going up as the date went on. This was the worst day of hobbying in Germany in my life and unlike fishing a bad day of hobbying is worse than a good day of working because I still work in part to pursuit this hobby.
I have half a mind to return next week and if any girl pulls this shit of upcharging or any other shit of bouncing up and going to the manager and say "This is the shit that ruined my favorite club. ".
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Thursday 3 pm - 8 pm
Dissappointment at once again not seeing anything of my Oase favourite Claudia. Otherwise 2 good rooms with girls known to me, Heidi and Roxana (the one with the big round lips, as I understand there are 2 girls by that name at Oase).
Not many men, 3 out of 5 being young Asians.
By the time I left the male to female ratio was superb. The girls were present in such numbers you didn't see the other men any more. Couches full of girls girls girls. That's how I like my FKKs.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2220973]RN was making a more specific point and I was reacting with sadness that any girl at college should be "encouraged" into prostitution and then subsequently just be second fiddle to the "lover boy", losing all chance of a second career. I am happy that the very tiny number of girls (maybe four or five) I have known very very well did not follow this pattern.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Is it plausible for a girl with the will-power and intelligence to pass medical school year after year to suddenly be chicken-minded enough to let it all go to waste at the whim of a loverboy? Wouldn't she have other better options to sell sex, like sleeping with some head surgeon or senior member of faculty? Is the loverboy so dumb as to kill the hen that lays the golden eggs instead of waiting for a few more years and having a fully-fledged doc as a hoe?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2220825]Well put. Besides the current educational paradigm is outdated and highly useless anyway:
[URL]https://youtu.be/zDZFcDGpL4U[/URL][/QUOTE]The "crisis" in higher education is greatly exaggerated. At least it is in the US. Averaging across all 4 year college graduates, the cost of college education is returned by higher wages by age 34. After age 34 it's a lifetime of significantly higher pay.
Yes, you can find anecdotal cases that point in every direction. "I know this kid who. Blah blah blah. " But in the typical case a college degree pays for itself and returns much more pay over a lifetime.
(I believe that a college education offers much more than just increased pay. But for this discussion the money advantage alone should win the day.)
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2221150]The "crisis" in higher education is greatly exaggerated. At least it is in the US. Averaging across all 4 year college graduates, the cost of college education is returned by higher wages by age 34. After age 34 it's a lifetime of significantly higher pay.
Yes, you can find anecdotal cases that point in every direction. "I know this kid who. Blah blah blah. " But in the typical case a college degree pays for itself and returns much more pay over a lifetime.
[/QUOTE]I struck up a conversation with this lawyer from the USA in the clubs. He told me that lawyers of his generation got a sold ROI on their law degrees, but majority of the newly minted lawyers will not. Tuitions rose faster than inflation, while starting salaries haven't. Except for the top 15 percent of graduates (usually tier one schools). This is not just one kid, but thousands of kids each year--there is an employment crisis. Article below mentions people going $200 K in debt to obtain their law degree, but having to settle for jobs where a law degree is not even required, getting payed $19-22 per hour: [URL]https://theoutline.com/post/2943/this-is-where-all-the-unemployed-lawyers-go-to-cry[/URL].
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2221192]. Article below mentions people going $200 K in debt to obtain their law degree, but having to settle for jobs where a law degree is not even required, getting payed $19-22 per hour: [URL]https://theoutline.com/post/2943/this-is-where-all-the-unemployed-lawyers-go-to-cry[/URL].[/QUOTE]And I say "you idiots. ".
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Neuro is absolutely right that having a college degree is still the way to go in the US.
https://www2.ed.gov/policy/highered/reg/hearulemaking/2011/collegepayoff.pdf
As he said, anyone can pick one anecdote or other and say "what about. " . And there are indeed several professions that pay very well that don't require college degree -- welders, electricians, plumbers, some machinists, rig operators, yadda yadda make pretty decent wages when times are right and employment is tight. A few years ago, reports said long haul truck drivers made north of 150 grand in Australia for example.
But the above link is a comprehensive one. It is averaging across all fields, all regions, and them are the #s.
As for lawyers -- again, one can come up with anecdotes but BLS shows lawyer comps are just fine. They are still more than 2 x national averages.
[URL]http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/lawyers_salaries_slipping_compared_to_other_professions_data_indicates/[/URL]
And even to the extent there is a compression of lawyer salaries relative to national medians, one needs to keep in mind that a mix shift makes a big difference. Which industries are they employed in (wall street or public sector for example), or regional mix (NYC or Indiana), and so on. In general, post 2008, employment on wallstreet has stagnated to shrunk, while silicon valley has boomed. So, engineers gained ground relative to lawyers in the last decade.
In any case, compression of lawyer salaries by a small amount relative to national averages does not in any way imply that college degrees are losing value. Far from it.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2221150]The "crisis" in higher education is greatly exaggerated. At least it is in the US. Averaging across all 4 year college graduates, the cost of college education is returned by higher wages by age 34. After age 34 it's a lifetime of significantly higher pay.
Yes, you can find anecdotal cases that point in every direction. "I know this kid who. Blah blah blah. " But in the typical case a college degree pays for itself and returns much more pay over a lifetime.
(I believe that a college education offers much more than just increased pay. But for this discussion the money advantage alone should win the day.)[/QUOTE]The point of the video was not about which doors an education unlocks, but on how it narrows and funnels your way of thinking. Turning people into robots. And in todays world, you don't want to be a robot. We have robots for that.
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My point was still trying to extrapolate education (in any subject) onto the subject of working in an FKK. In this case I would prefer a non-robot over an educated robot. Simply because the non-educated has a higher potential for divergent thinking, and that would most likely be a bonus to a client as the tailor made approach would seem more genuine. And less taught from a paradigm standpoint of approach.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2221123]Dissappointment at once again not seeing anything of my Oase favourite Claudia.[/QUOTE]I heard she retired. But maybe that's just "girl talk". Apparently there are guys who have her contact still. Can anyone confirm?
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USA has a lot of problems
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2221192]I struck up a conversation with this lawyer from the USA in the clubs. He told me that lawyers of his generation got a sold ROI on their law degrees, but majority of the newly minted lawyers will not. Tuitions rose faster than inflation, while starting salaries haven't. Except for the top 15 percent of graduates (usually tier one schools). This is not just one kid, but thousands of kids each year--there is an employment crisis. Article below mentions people going $200 K in debt to obtain their law degree, but having to settle for jobs where a law degree is not even required, getting payed $19-22 per hour: [URL]https://theoutline.com/post/2943/this-is-where-all-the-unemployed-lawyers-go-to-cry[/URL].[/QUOTE]First of all I apologize for writing in the wrong thread. I am someone who grew up in the US and has lived in Europe for a long time, the vast majority of my family still lives in the US. If one compares Germany and the US to name a single case, then it should become apparent that the US has loads of problems.
Life is increasingly expensive and unmanageable in the US. The cost of higher education in the US is totally absurd and the extent to which people get into debt to have a reasonable, I mean reasonable and not extravagant, standard of living is astounding.
That taken with the exorbitant cost of health care compared to any European system, should help anyone realize that the American dream has gone to dust.
If you want to have a huge house and two cars, then America is ideal in many respects, otherwise the country is increasingly unlivable.
This is part of the reason why Trump was elected, life is increasingly expensive even for relatively affluent people in America. However the people who voted for him don't realize that his party is the cause of many of the problems and far from the cure.
I will stop before someone starts a flame war in response to what I consider to be obvious and beyond denial.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2221192]I struck up a conversation with this lawyer from the USA in the clubs. He told me that lawyers of his generation got a sold ROI on their law degrees, but majority of the newly minted lawyers will not. Tuitions rose faster than inflation, while starting salaries haven't. Except for the top 15 percent of graduates (usually tier one schools). This is not just one kid, but thousands of kids each year--there is an employment crisis. Article below mentions people going $200 K in debt to obtain their law degree, but having to settle for jobs where a law degree is not even required, getting payed $19-22 per hour: [URL]https://theoutline.com/post/2943/this-is-where-all-the-unemployed-lawyers-go-to-cry[/URL].[/QUOTE]Not only USA in employment cirsis. All over the world. In particular also in Switzerland for Swiss people.
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[QUOTE=MichiT;2221389]Not only USA in employment cirsis. All over the world. In particular also in Switzerland for Swiss people.[/QUOTE]I was thinking that in Switzerland, Austria, Germany there was more or less full employment.
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[QUOTE=LocoTonto;2221286]I heard she retired. But maybe that's just "girl talk". Apparently there are guys who have her contact still. Can anyone confirm?[/QUOTE]Claudia aka Aida, formerly Mainhattan, many Tattoos? She didn't retire. Saw her two three weeks ago.
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How about the service providers? Anyone worth doing?
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2221250]In any case, compression of lawyer salaries by a small amount relative to national averages does not in any way imply that college degrees are losing value. Far from it.[/QUOTE]As artificial intelligence advances, certain industries like the legal industry will contract. Junior associates used to get hired to perform grunt work like document review. Artificial intelligence now handles that at a fraction of the cost. This means that someone who graduated in 2017 from a lower tier law school may never ever work as a lawyer. I reference 2017 explicitly here, because law school tuition in 2017 was 2.71 times more expensive than it was in 1985, after adjusting for inflation. Lawyers who graduated in the 1990's obviously perform more higher-value work than document review, so given current technology, they have yet to be negatively impacted. In fact, law firms are cutting costs by hiring less junior associates, so these older lawyers probably saw some pay increases, partly due to the fact that there are now fewer lawyers in the firm to share the bounty amongst.
When self-driving cars become a reality, it is predicted that there will be an over-supply of long-haul drivers. That will probably be a more disruptive change in the labor market than when the Romanians WGs flooded the German paid sex market in 2007! At least in the latter case, demand (in the form of tourists) increased, albeit probably not to accommodate the increased supply of Romanian WGs.
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Oase Monday Sep 3.
I have quick trip to Oase last Monday. The LU is OK. Food is so so (same as before). I managed to have 3 sessions. One with Adina who have beautiful tits. Two times with Veronica. I have not seen her for almost one year. She gains back her normal shape. (Last time was little bit overweight). There is brand new girl who the manager just showed her around. She is cute, I was thinking about doing her but never had chance. Hope she will be still around in November when I come back.
Overall 40-60 girls. Guys may be around same amount. It is not bad consider it is slow Monday.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2221550]
When self-driving cars become a reality, it is predicted that there will be an over-supply of long-haul drivers. That will probably be a more disruptive change in the labor market than when the Romanians WGs flooded the German paid sex market in 2007! At least in the latter case, demand (in the form of tourists) increased, albeit probably not to accommodate the increased supply of Romanian WGs.[/QUOTE]How would know what year it was? Were you attending regularly years before that? It was definitely before 2007 that Romanians were already dominating at the Palace. Maybe somewhat broader mixture in 2005 but still Romanian and Bulgarian dominated in my memory. Not always easy to tell if girl was telling truth about origin anyway. Actually in later years more Asians showed up and maybe more Latinas.
I recall Katrin (Palace) saying she was from the "Black Sea" and at first I did not know where it was. LOL Did the Romanian numbers increase a lot in 2007? Can't say I noticed.
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Romania joined the EU in 2007. So yes, 2007 showed an increase in Romanian girls in the European sex industry.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2221466]Claudia aka Aida, formerly Mainhattan, many Tattoos? She didn't retire. Saw her two three weeks ago.[/QUOTE]Oh! Sorry. Didn't mean to spread false rumors. Was at Oase last week, speaking to one of the girls, she said she hadn't been around for a while. Theke also told me hasn't seen her for few months. Said didn't know if she was coming back.
Thanks for the correction.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2221636]How would know what year it was? Were you attending regularly years before that? It was definitely before 2007 that Romanians were already dominating at the Palace. Maybe somewhat broader mixture in 2005 but still Romanian and Bulgarian dominated in my memory.[/QUOTE]Probably talking to too many old-timers. The transition was perhaps more gradual I suspect, where Romanians were growing 10 percent per year over multiple years.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2220975]XXL. Yes. Loads of girls have told me they think prostitution is a huge improvement on the other career options available to them. Just a shame that it is not a socially acceptable choice for western European girls.[/QUOTE]It's a very tricky knot to unentangle. Even if selling sex to a degree is becoming more acceptable with the spread of Internet porn (it didn't kill Paris Hilton career, and it launched Kim Kardashian's) -- there's also the stigma of it even when you're out of the business.
Hardcore porn actresses Aurora Snow and Bree Olsen have talked about this. They can't get jobs as, say, teachers... but I do know of an adult perfomer who did, but she's Canadian and had to kind of "fake" her own death.
Then consider our own roles as patrons in this business. It's hard for women to make prostitution a socially acceptable choice when many men are also fearful of revealing that they patronize sex workers (though maybe this will change too, from Charlie Sheen to Justin Bieber to various professional athletes.).
I think in some areas of the world it's modestly more socially acceptable -- see Bruna Surfistinha in Brazil or Gina Wild in Germany. The stigma hasn't been as strong with these two, although it hasn't gone away completely either. Maybe Stormy Daniels will push the envelope a little further in the USA.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2221923]It's a very tricky knot to unentangle. Even if selling sex to a degree is becoming more acceptable with the spread of Internet porn (it didn't kill Paris Hilton career, and it launched Kim Kardashian's) -- there's also the stigma of it even when you're out of the business.
Hardcore porn actresses Aurora Snow and Bree Olsen have talked about this. They can't get jobs as, say, teachers... but I do know of an adult perfomer who did, but she's Canadian and had to kind of "fake" her own death.
Then consider our own roles as patrons in this business. It's hard for women to make prostitution a socially acceptable choice when many men are also fearful of revealing that they patronize sex workers (though maybe this will change too, from Charlie Sheen to Justin Bieber to various professional athletes.).
I think in some areas of the world it's modestly more socially acceptable -- see Bruna Surfistinha in Brazil or Gina Wild in Germany. The stigma hasn't been as strong with these two, although it hasn't gone away completely either. Maybe Stormy Daniels will push the envelope a little further in the USA.[/QUOTE]This is clearly one aspect but for me another aspect could be the mental health of many of the girls, complete loss of self esteem, low energy to build any personal project I spent some time outside the clubs with girls and really I don t know if they are prostitute because of their low energy level or if this is coming from that job but most of them have no power, are not interesting in discovering the world, the people.
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Outdoors in winter.
What happens to the outdoor area in Oase when it is October, November and later? I am wondering because I enjoyed my visit in the summer but worry that there will be nowhere to lounge around if outdoor is closed when it gets colder.
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[QUOTE=ChillBear;2222260]What happens to the outdoor area in Oase when it is October, November and later? I am wondering because I enjoyed my visit in the summer but worry that there will be nowhere to lounge around if outdoor is closed when it gets colder.[/QUOTE]Pool, Sauna and garden can be used in winter.
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Plan to visit Sunday the 16th.
Hi,
Plan to visit Oase on Sunday the 16th, arriving around 2 PM and leaving late evening. Have attended several times over the past few years, but noticed that the Auto show is at the Messe late next week. Anyone have any thoughts when it will start to be busy in Oase? Went during the Auto show week 2 years ago. And it was almost impossible to get a room.
Thanks,
Will.
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[QUOTE=Willa1;2222472]Hi,
Plan to visit Oase on Sunday the 16th, arriving around 2 PM and leaving late evening. Have attended several times over the past few years, but noticed that the Auto show is at the Messe late next week. Anyone have any thoughts when it will start to be busy in Oase? Went during the Auto show week 2 years ago. And it was almost impossible to get a room.
Thanks,
Will.[/QUOTE]I'm visiting next weekend, oh no have I chosen the wrong weekend? I thought the show was in Hanover Germany, do clubs still get busy the weekend before despite the two locations being around 3-4 hours distance?
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WiFi at Oase.
I used iPad before in Oase without any problem (Only in quite relax room upstairs). However, on my last trip, I noticed that there was a sign at front desk indicated no phone or WiFi devices. I asked the lady. She said you could only use your phone or iPad by the entrance. Is it true? Hes policy been changed?
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[QUOTE=Willa1;2222472]Plan to visit Oase on Sunday the 16th, arriving around 2 PM and leaving late evening. Have attended several times over the past few years, but noticed that the Auto show is at the Messe late next week. Anyone have any thoughts when it will start to be busy in Oase? Went during the Auto show week 2 years ago. And it was almost impossible to get a room.[/QUOTE]Automechanika 2018 is 11- 15th September (Tuesday to Saturday). Expect big crowds and terrible conditions in the evenings (arrive early / leave early if you must go). But on Sunday the messe visitors are usually going home leaving the girls lonely.
I have mostly good experience from Sundays after a big exhibition (as well as the days prior to it). Strong LU as "all the girls" will be there through the messe days. Favourable F / M ratios as most of the messe visitors have left. Girls mostly happy and relaxed after having earned good money in the previous days. Normally this would give good opportunities and a good time.
As always one has to pick the right girls. I bet a few can be in a "sharky mood" after having earned money too easy from the non-regular gents / tourists in the previous days.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2222554]I used iPad before in Oase without any problem (Only in quite relax room upstairs). However, on my last trip, I noticed that there was a sign at front desk indicated no phone or WiFi devices. I asked the lady. She said you could only use your phone or iPad by the entrance. Is it true? Hes policy been changed?[/QUOTE]Yes. Due to some tourists filming and taking photos with smartphones or even glasses with hidden cameras. A big thank you to all of these motherfuckers. Saw a few times how a guy (2 Asian, 1 European) got caught and their phones searched.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2221550]Junior associates used to get hired to perform grunt work like document review. Artificial intelligence now handles that at a fraction of the cost. [/QUOTE]Do you have real life examples of this? A URL for an AI legal service or some such? My gut reaction is "Maybe someday, but no time soon. " But I ask mainly to educate myself if I've somehow missed this before.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2221923]It's a very tricky knot to unentangle. Even if selling sex to a degree is becoming more acceptable with the spread of Internet porn (it didn't kill Paris Hilton career, and it launched Kim Kardashian's) -- there's also the stigma of it even when you're out of the business.
Hardcore porn actresses Aurora Snow and Bree Olsen have talked about this. ....[/QUOTE]It seems to me that prostitution and porn are two distinct things that deserve separate consideration.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2222554]I used iPad before in Oase without any problem (Only in quite relax room upstairs). However, on my last trip, I noticed that there was a sign at front desk indicated no phone or WiFi devices. I asked the lady. She said you could only use your phone or iPad by the entrance. Is it true? Hes policy been changed?[/QUOTE]I didn't get any inconvenience using my phone in outdoor areas in my last visit on July. All ladies provide me the password to use Oase's network.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222583]Yes. Due to some tourists filming and taking photos with smartphones or even glasses with hidden cameras. A big thank you to all of these motherfuckers. Saw a few times how a guy (2 Asian, 1 European) got caught and their phones searched.[/QUOTE]So I can not use iPad at quite room anymore?
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New Phone Restriction.
The new restrictions on phones in the club have only been in effect for a little over a month now. That explains why visitors prior to around mid-August would not have been aware of this relatively new rule.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222358]Pool, Sauna and garden can be used in winter.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be too cold to use pool and garden though or is there some sort of tent covering with heaters?
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2222583]Yes. Due to some tourists filming and taking photos with smartphones or even glasses with hidden cameras. A big thank you to all of these motherfuckers. Saw a few times how a guy (2 Asian, 1 European) got caught and their phones searched.[/QUOTE]Few French guys take photos with phones of you or your car, at Oase or Sharks, to try to blackmail You. Not my friends of course.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2223753]Few French guys take photos with phones of you or your car, at Oase or Sharks, to try to blackmail You. Not my friends of course.[/QUOTE]Call the Police immediately and take photos of any such lowlifes.
As for the separate point of customers taking secret photos inside the club: they must be very mentally and emotionally damaged
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2223800]Call the Police immediately and take photos of any such lowlifes.[/QUOTE]Better yet: force feed them Roast Beef Sandwiches laced with a combo of English Mustard (Colemans will do) and HP sauce. Followed by a second course of: Poulet ala Atlanta (Chicken with Coca-Cola Sauce*). Problem solved.
*If anybody wants the Recipe to this scrumptious dish, please PM me and I'll email the top-secret sauce. However, only emails from Senior Members will be answered!
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2223802]Better yet: force feed them Roast Beef Sandwiches laced with a combo of English Mustard (Colemans will do) and HP sauce. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, my polyglot colleague: Les francais aiment les Rosbifs.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2222676]Do you have real life examples of this? A URL for an AI legal service or some such? My gut reaction is "Maybe someday, but no time soon. " But I ask mainly to educate myself if I've somehow missed this before.[/QUOTE]The apps I was referring to apps that would make attorneys more productive and to avoid paying paralegals or newly-minted lawyers.
DoNotPay is supposed to be a app for people who want legal help but don't want to pay a lawyer:
[URL]https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/12/donotpay-launches-1000-new-bots-to-help-you-with-your-legal-problems/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2223800]Call the Police immediately and take photos of any such lowlifes.
As for the separate point of customers taking secret photos inside the club: they must be very mentally and emotionally damaged[/QUOTE]Police will do nothing for you, nothing new that guys are taking photos of your car plates, yes a lot of crazy guys in the clubs how other wise to explain those who are willing to fuck without condoms, or to ask a girl to fist him or to ask her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] in his mouth.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2223800]Call the Police immediately and take photos of any such lowlifes.
As for the separate point of customers taking secret photos inside the club: they must be very mentally and emotionally damaged[/QUOTE]Amazing but true. Some guys increase their frustration when going to FKK or reading forums. So big jealousy in FKK, when really no reason to be jealous about paying a girl for sex.
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Oase visit after 2 years
Hi all,
I will be returning to Oase next week for the first time since the summer of 2016. I wanted to check to see if any girls I might know from 2 years ago might still be working at Oase. I used to session a lot with red-headed Diana. I know she is no longer there. Some other girls I sometimes sessioned with were her friend Debora, Alexia, Carla with black hair about same size as Diana, former Carla that had stars on her face, and Sabina. Are any of these girls still at Oase for long-time regulars who would know these girls.
Also, can anyone recommend some girls with build like these girls that would not be sharky but a good provider?
Thanks for any info. Much appreciated!
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[QUOTE=XXL;2220713]That's just as well because I need girls more in FKKs than I need them polishing their arses in some school.
All the same it gets me thinking about how cushy life can be as a female. Putting in time in a club for good money to get themselves through college instead of pushing shopping carts or flipping burgers.[/QUOTE]This is known as the resource curse. When money is easily made, one does not plan ahead and work for the future. It is like oil rich countries that exploit their natural resources instead of educating their citizens. Unfortunately, a girl's looks if fleeting. The smart ones get out quickly or they learn the game of high end escorts. You seldom find the young girls charging high rates. It is the ones that are older who know what the older, wealthy gentleman wants that succeed. The dumb young girls chase after the good looking lover boys, while the wiser girls knows the wealthy exec. Who can find her a cushy job or be a regular is a much better gig. However, you have to be sophisticated and be able not too look like a lady of the night.
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Small Carla with quite big tits, now dark blond, my favorite lovely frog, a sweet kiss to her, she shouldn't read these kinds of forums if she is not opened mind enough, is still at Oase, since 2014 when I tried her when I discovered Oase and tried all quite pretty girls, but selected Maria Platinium for GF and only repeated with her, before discovering Ina. Lat later.
Roxana also still at Oase. Didn t see Suginella since a while.
Adina / Marina also still there. Many small girls at Oase.
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[QUOTE=BigBad;2223995]I will be returning to Oase next week for the first time since the summer of 2016. I wanted to check to see if any girls I might know from 2 years ago might still be working at Oase. I used to session a lot with red-headed Diana. I know she is no longer there. Some other girls I sometimes sessioned with were her friend Debora, Alexia, Carla with black hair about same size as Diana, former Carla that had stars on her face, and Sabina. Are any of these girls still at Oase for long-time regulars who would know these girls.[/QUOTE]Nice picks. Those girls have very high optics in my book.
- Deborah, Alexia ("Model mit Brille") and Carla (changed hair colour) have all been in attendance within the last weeks. Also, Alexa ("Thai"/ Ro).
- Carla "with stars on her face" (aka EriCarla) quit years ago.
- The Sabina I used to bed I have not seen in many years. But occasionally you see other girls with that name.
[QUOTE=BigBad;2223995]Also, can anyone recommend some girls with build like these girls that would not be sharky but a good provider?[/QUOTE]This is a tough one. The scene has changed a little. There are many high optics at Oase (also with similar faces / bodies), but there is also a lot of YMMV with regard to performance. Cheyenne could be your best bet. Worth checking out. Could say the same about Katharina, Bu but probably too tall for you. I have also had reasonably good experiences with blackhaired Anna, Selena and Ina. All solid optics in my book. Performance average to ok (nothing spectacular), but at least I did not experience any sharky behaviour (in a 1h session).
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2224207]Nice picks. Those girls have very high optics in my book.
- Deborah, Alexia ("Model mit Brille") and Carla (changed hair colour) have all been in attendance within the last weeks. Also, Alexa ("Thai"/ Ro).
- Carla "with stars on her face" (aka EriCarla) quit years ago.
- The Sabina I used to bed I have not seen in many years. But occasionally you see other girls with that name.
This is a tough one. The scene has changed a little. There are many high optics at Oase (also with similar faces / bodies), but there is also a lot of YMMV with regard to performance. Cheyenne could be your best bet. Worth checking out. Could say the same about Katharina, Bu but probably too tall for you. I have also had reasonably good experiences with blackhaired Anna, Selena and Ina. All solid optics in my book. Performance average to ok (nothing spectacular), but at least I did not experience any sharky behaviour (in a 1h session).[/QUOTE]Cheyenne, why not but you need to like stupid and cheating girls. She is a no go for me like for many senior German mongers.
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Rimming.
Any girls at Oase that you know gives good rimming?
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Veterans
Thanks so much Shark. It's good to know there are still some favorites I am familiar with. Especially glad to hear Carla is still there. Hopefully, she will be there later this week and I will recognize her. Alexia has that school teacher thing going with the glasses although her performance in the room is not always top notch. I knew EriCarla had quit but was hoping she came back. Man she had a vice grip.
Do you have any other recommendations for great performance with at least decent optics?
[QUOTE=Shark16;2224207]Nice picks. Those girls have very high optics in my book.
- Deborah, Alexia ("Model mit Brille") and Carla (changed hair colour) have all been in attendance within the last weeks. Also, Alexa ("Thai"/ Ro).
- Carla "with stars on her face" (aka EriCarla) quit years ago.
- The Sabina I used to bed I have not seen in many years. But occasionally you see other girls with that name.
This is a tough one. The scene has changed a little. There are many high optics at Oase (also with similar faces / bodies), but there is also a lot of YMMV with regard to performance. Cheyenne could be your best bet. Worth checking out. Could say the same about Katharina, Bu but probably too tall for you. I have also had reasonably good experiences with blackhaired Anna, Selena and Ina. All solid optics in my book. Performance average to ok (nothing spectacular), but at least I did not experience any sharky behaviour (in a 1h session).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=XCobra;2225019]Any girls at Oase that you know gives good rimming?[/QUOTE]No clue it is not my thing but for sure if you are ready to pay for it you will get it. Need to be discuss before going to the room probably not so many girls will provide it.
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Anybody see Claudia there this week?
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Agree on the YMMV game at Oase. And although I haven't tried going with all the girls there, both Denisa and Laura seems to have good consistency among all or most the people I talk to. And well Cheyenne and Carla too as mentioned.
Across the club the only downside is really the upsell game among some girls. And that can also be YMMV. So it is a minefield in its own way. Girls like Stephania especially and Ina seems like some of the strictest on it. I guess there are a few girls pulling the strings here.
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[QUOTE=BigBad;2225082]Thanks so much Shark. It's good to know there are still some favorites I am familiar with. Especially glad to hear Carla is still there. Hopefully, she will be there later this week and I will recognize her. Alexia has that school teacher thing going with the glasses although her performance in the room is not always top notch. I knew EriCarla had quit but was hoping she came back. Man she had a vice grip.
Do you have any other recommendations for great performance with at least decent optics?[/QUOTE]Alexia can be lazy, yes. But that bod is still smoking if you are in for an optifick.
EriCarla and pussy grip: Yeah, that's why I mentioned Katharina (and to a certain extent Cheyenne).
Great performance? What kind of performance? Some girls perform for me but not for others. And vice versa. What is decent optics? Tastes are so different. There are plenty girls with good performances. But ok; a wild shot: Try Melissa. Do you remember her from two years back? She must be around 30 now, but has lost a few kilos and looks her best. She takes good care of herself. I always avoided her due to her serious look fearing an unenthusiastic session. What a mistake! She warms up inside the room and is really friendly and serviceminded. BJ just the way I like it: Slow. Sensual. Wet. Deep. With some variation (Crina-style for those who remember her). But she is skilled in so many ways. If her optics match your specs, then don't hesitate.
I hope you take time to report back to the forum with your findings.
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If Melissa is blond, usually with fishnet stockings, I think with tattoo on low back, for long time at Oase, at least since 2014 when I tried her, trying to sell anal, but she was just ridiculous for anal with a normal size, you kill my ass she said after only 2 seconds.
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Oase. Worlds apart
Having left World at 10 pm on a Sunday night having not had a room there, I took a cab to Oase. No meter. Big mistake. Guy tells me its 65 kms and fare is €80. I think I paid that to get back to Frankfurt the last time I was at World! It's actually 43 kms. But time was running out and I wanted to hit a room by now so I bit the dust and paid it. I should have insisted on the meter I think.
Decent if not amazing options for a Sunday night. Many of the regulars present, Raissa, Soroya, the Thai looking small girl, but a lot of regulars missing too. I had hoped the striking Kathryn (Bulgaria) might be in – but not seen her on my last two visits. Has she gone to another club? I liked her so would like to know where she went.
Ended up with Sandra – blonde and bubbly. Said she was from Russia but I very much doubt it. Really fun girl, said her tits were natural but they weren't though it's a good job and not an easy to tell visual. Good in the room, would repeat. Nice attitude – nothing too much. Bit upsell prone until I told her she was wasting her time. Got a nice massage from the Thai lady – very good.
Would love to remember the name of the dark / brunette Romanian girl who has one side of her head shaved close but still has long hair the other side – I'the like to see her next time. Anyone know her name?
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FKK Oase 14/09/2018.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2225528]Having left World at 10 pm on a Sunday night having not had a room there, I took a cab to Oase. No meter. Big mistake. Guy tells me its 65 kms and fare is 80. I think I paid that to get back to Frankfurt the last time I was at World! It's actually 43 kms. But time was running out and I wanted to hit a room by now so I bit the dust and paid it. I should have insisted on the meter I think.
Decent if not amazing options for a Sunday night. Many of the regulars present, Raissa, Soroya, the Thai looking small girl, but a lot of regulars missing too. I had hoped the striking Kathryn (Bulgaria) might be in but not seen her on my last two visits. Has she gone to another club? I liked her so would like to know where she went.
Ended up with Sandra blonde and bubbly. Said she was from Russia but I very much doubt it. Really fun girl, said her tits were natural but they weren't though it's a good job and not an easy to tell visual. Good in the room, would repeat. Nice attitude nothing too much. Bit upsell prone until I told her she was wasting her time. Got a nice massage from the Thai lady very good.
Would love to remember the name of the dark / brunette Romanian girl who has one side of her head shaved close but still has long hair the other side I'the like to see her next time. Anyone know her name?[/QUOTE]Hi,
I went to the Oase last Friday and last Saturday Kathrin the Bulgarian was present. When I arrived Friday at the club around 9 pm I have never seen so many people. There was at least 1 hour waiting for room keys. The Romanian girl with shaved hair aside is called Nelly. I had her on Friday night but she had herpes in the mouth so she immediately told me before the room that she could not kiss me. She has beautiful natural breasts. I think the club was packed this weekend because of the car show in Frankfurt starting this week.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2225528]Having left World at 10 pm on a Sunday night having not had a room there, I took a cab to Oase. No meter. Big mistake. Guy tells me its 65 kms and fare is 80. I think I paid that to get back to Frankfurt the last time I was at World! It's actually 43 kms. But time was running out and I wanted to hit a room by now so I bit the dust and paid it. I should have insisted on the meter I think.
Decent if not amazing options for a Sunday night. Many of the regulars present, Raissa, Soroya, the Thai looking small girl, but a lot of regulars missing too. I had hoped the striking Kathryn (Bulgaria) might be in but not seen her on my last two visits. Has she gone to another club? I liked her so would like to know where she went.
Ended up with Sandra blonde and bubbly. Said she was from Russia but I very much doubt it. Really fun girl, said her tits were natural but they weren't though it's a good job and not an easy to tell visual. Good in the room, would repeat. Nice attitude nothing too much. Bit upsell prone until I told her she was wasting her time. Got a nice massage from the Thai lady very good.
Would love to remember the name of the dark / brunette Romanian girl who has one side of her head shaved close but still has long hair the other side I'the like to see her next time. Anyone know her name?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately you spent a lot of time and money travelling between World and Oase, better you rent a car to save money and time, and at the end a girl from Romania with sili.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=ElTiguere;2225550]Hi,
I went to the Oase last Friday and last Saturday Kathrin the Bulgarian was present. When I arrived Friday at the club around 9 pm I have never seen so many people. There was at least 1 hour waiting for room keys. The Romanian girl with shaved hair aside is called Nelly. I had her on Friday night but she had herpes in the mouth so she immediately told me before the room that she could not kiss me. She has beautiful natural breasts. I think the club was packed this weekend because of the car show in Frankfurt starting this week.[/QUOTE]Thanks for confirming Kathrin is still there. Shame I missed her. And I now remember Nelly but I think I'm glad I passed if she has herpes in her mouth!
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[QUOTE=ElTiguere;2225550]Hi,
I went to the Oase last Friday and last Saturday Kathrin the Bulgarian was present. When I arrived Friday at the club around 9 pm I have never seen so many people. There was at least 1 hour waiting for room keys. The Romanian girl with shaved hair aside is called Nelly. I had her on Friday night but she had herpes in the mouth so she immediately told me before the room that she could not kiss me. She has beautiful natural breasts. I think the club was packed this weekend because of the car show in Frankfurt starting this week.[/QUOTE]Never had the pleasure of being in a club when busy as this, how does it work as a matter of practicality? Is there a queue of guys and girls at bar edging forward as keys are returned, does the girl confirm she needs a room and gets called when ready and then goes to pick up her client, is it a free for all?
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Oase.
When I arrived on Friday night and was forced to wait 25 minutes at the main entrance given the number of guests waiting to pay for the entrance I noticed that it might be worth it pay 30 for 2 hours in the club to do 1 or 2 sessions When I wanted to eat a pizza, the waiter told me to wait 30 minutes they did not have enough ingredients in the world, there was nothing. I find it a pity to pay 70 after 16 hours, it is good to come before 16 hours to pay the entry 50 otherwise if you come late around 21 hours, the fact of paying 30 for 2 hours at the club can be a Good choice. I asked the reception that the offer of 30 for 2 hours is valid at any time of day or night. Casting really well last Friday at around 80 girls. I returned Saturday, it was quiet until 8 pm.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2225659]Thanks for confirming Kathrin is still there. Shame I missed her. And I now remember Nelly but I think I'm glad I passed if she has herpes in her mouth![/QUOTE]That is a bummer to hear. Nelly was an ATF when I spent time with her in May. She didn't yet have half of her head shaved, but she was a real dynamo, and I was looking forward to repeating. But I have to wonder. If she's got herpes, and knows it, then why is she still working? For that matter, why would someone session with her if she told them outside the room that she had herpes? Wouldn't that be a deal breaker?
This can't be normal. What am I missing?
MCP.
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Keys.
[QUOTE=Havanite;2225752]Never had the pleasure of being in a club when busy as this, how does it work as a matter of practicality? Is there a queue of guys and girls at bar edging forward as keys are returned, does the girl confirm she needs a room and gets called when ready and then goes to pick up her client, is it a free for all?[/QUOTE]The girls stay with the customer behind the bar where the keys are and wait for the next girl to come back and give her the key. The worry is that last Friday there were definitely 30 girls with the client waiting and at the main entrance there were no more locker keys for customers who had just arrived. Minimum 1 hour waiting.
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[QUOTE=Havanite;2225752]Never had the pleasure of being in a club when busy as this, how does it work as a matter of practicality? Is there a queue of guys and girls at bar edging forward as keys are returned, does the girl confirm she needs a room and gets called when ready and then goes to pick up her client, is it a free for all?[/QUOTE]You said it: There is a queue of guys and girls at the bar edging forward as keys are returned. It's boring.
The good news is that this is not happening very often. Other than during the Automechanika week (that was last week) this occurs only sometimes during Friday and Saturday evenings lasting maximum a couple of hours (maybe between 8 and 10 pm?) and waiting time is rarely more than 5- 15 mnts. During Automechanika waiting time can often be 1 h and more!
I think the club has 28 rooms. In addtion to the day beds/cabanas and bed on the hill outside.
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Line up.
Girls seen last weekend: Nelly, Kathrin, Jucy, Heidi, Michaela, Carla, Chayenne, Adela, Vera, Marina, Alina, Emilia, Simona, Raissa, Helena, Amanda, Anastasia, Alice, Mina, Ama, Justine, Annabelle, Arabella.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2225866]You said it: There is a queue of guys and girls at the bar edging forward as keys are returned. It's boring.
The good news is that this is not happening very often. Other than during the Automechanika week (that was last week) this occurs only sometimes during Friday and Saturday evenings lasting maximum a couple of hours (maybe between 8 and 10 pm?) and waiting time is rarely more than 5- 15 mnts. During Automechanika waiting time can often be 1 h and more!
I think the club has 28 rooms. In addtion to the day beds/cabanas and bed on the hill outside.[/QUOTE]15 years of FKK, 600 hundred visits, will I wait 1 hour for a room, no, no, and no.
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[QUOTE=MrCrankyPants;2225804]That is a bummer to hear. Nelly was an ATF when I spent time with her in May. She didn't yet have half of her head shaved, but she was a real dynamo, and I was looking forward to repeating. But I have to wonder. If she's got herpes, and knows it, then why is she still working? For that matter, why would someone session with her if she told them outside the room that she had herpes? Wouldn't that be a deal breaker?
This can't be normal. What am I missing?
MCP.[/QUOTE]You're missing that you probably have herpes too.
[URL]http://www.who.int/news-room/detail/28-10-2015-globally-an-estimated-two-thirds-of-the-population-under-50-are-infected-with-herpes-simplex-virus-type-1[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ElTiguere;2225870]Girls seen last weekend: Nelly, Kathrin, Jucy, Heidi, Michaela, Carla, Chayenne, Adela, Vera, Marina, Alina, Emilia, Simona, Raissa, Helena, Amanda, Anastasia, Alice, Mina, Ama, Justine, Annabelle, Arabella.[/QUOTE]Did anybody ever try a very tall blond, claiming to be Russian, will be easy to check, maybe named Larissa? Never saw her on my visits, bad luck for me.
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Veterans
I will keep my eye out for Katharina and Cheyenne as well. You are correct Alexia does have a smoking bod.
I will be in later this week and will definitely report on my visits.
[QUOTE=Shark16;2225415]Alexia can be lazy, yes. But that bod is still smoking if you are in for an optifick.
EriCarla and pussy grip: Yeah, that's why I mentioned Katharina (and to a certain extent Cheyenne).
Great performance? What kind of performance? Some girls perform for me but not for others. And vice versa. What is decent optics? Tastes are so different. There are plenty girls with good performances. But ok; a wild shot: Try Melissa. Do you remember her from two years back? She must be around 30 now, but has lost a few kilos and looks her best. She takes good care of herself. I always avoided her due to her serious look fearing an unenthusiastic session. What a mistake! She warms up inside the room and is really friendly and serviceminded. BJ just the way I like it: Slow. Sensual. Wet. Deep. With some variation (Crina-style for those who remember her). But she is skilled in so many ways. If her optics match your specs, then don't hesitate.
I hope you take time to report back to the forum with your findings.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BigBad;2226314]I will keep my eye out for Katharina and Cheyenne as well. You are correct Alexia does have a smoking bod.
I will be in later this week and will definitely report on my visits.[/QUOTE]Cheyenne is a veteran of the P6 scene, she tried many clubs, probably was fucked more than 10000 times, she is really too pro for me.
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Oase 2-day daytime visits thurs / Fri. Report.
Field report for Oase 20/09 and 21/09. Quite a long report but I've tried to tie in some Oase v Globe comparisons here and there also considering Globe 2013 is my all time benchmark visit. My last Globe visit was 2016 so all I have to compare Oase too. Most of the report focuses on Frankfurt / Oase thigh of course!
I flew into FRA, arriving 10:45 am, immigration was a mess (one huge scrum and little in the way of queue control. Quite surprising given the famous German organization skills, but in saying that it still put London Stanstead to shame. Which was chaos earlier in the day. So much so I almost missed my flight out). Of course once I'the got my bag I realized that I had landed to a terminal located separately from the Terminal 1 / Main, so took a skytrain to the main terminal in order to then take a train to the city. Obviously by now very keen to get to an FKK so the constantly changing plans were a little frustrating but all in all decided to roll with the punches & take it in my stride.
Got to the hotel and room not yet ready (add it to the list, but understandable considering it was only just before 1 pm. I'the started to get the idea I shouldn't have huge hopes for the day considering the airport stumbling blocks seemingly having to constantly remind myself to be patient. Worth noting that Frankfurt isn't perhaps set up amazingly for a quick dash for a punt. For instance when I have been to Zurich Globe I found the journey in a lot more hassle free (15-20 min from airport and of course a much smaller airport and smaller city centre when you get there). But I've been to Zurich a few times and this was first time to Frankfurt. In fairness the train in from FRA to Frankfurt main was only 12 min, but it was the hassle getting there through a massive airport that really strung it out. Still, definitely not a huge issue but just something to note for those either in a hurry or who value very hassle-free touch downs. I travel frequently and found Frankfurt quite a bit of effort & extremely vast.
So, onto the action. I had a day and a half planned for fun. So intended to hit Oase and Sharks same day Thursday and from there make a decision which to hit on the Friday. The Sharks v Oase v Globe debate of course being age-old, so having been to Globe several times, I now intended to see which suited my preferences of Frankfurt's best.
So, onto the action. I hit Oase first. S5 train from Frankfurt main to Friedrichdorf as is well reported. Yet again I didn't have the best of luck with travel. The first train I got down to the platform for was cancelled (a couple of minutes before it was due to arrive, and the next one was some 40 min later. Other than taxi, which I wasn't keen to commit to, I fully expect there may have been some other way to get there (DB train?) rather than wait for the next train. However in my red-eye state and this being my rookie voyage, I just decided to wait.
8 min cab ride from Friedrichdorf (10 Eur) Finally got me into Oase at 3:50 pm (some 5 hours after landing) , where I encountered my first. And well deserved. Luck of the day. Reduced entry only 50 EUR (valid 10 am - 4 pm daily according to signage). The lady at reception was lovely, asked if I'the been before (no), gave me a quick run down of prices and advised to agree everything with girl prior to visiting the room. Pointed me in the direction of lockers, towel / robe issuing area and changing rooms. And I was off.
A couple of sharks tried their luck (several times) within the first 15-20 min. I then found my way outside, past the jacuzzi area. It was a very hot day so plenty of girls outside. Initial observations were positive, loads of slim eastern euros. I'm going to say average being 7-7.5//10 - with very few letting the side down.
Before long I walked straight past Anna - 23 year old Romanian spinner, with long straight black hair down to just above her amazing ass and slender legs. The main reason I was drawn to her was she didn't have that hard look that some (most) of these girls have, she looked very elegant by comparison if that makes any sense at all, hence her rating of 9/10 in the looks department (for my tastes of course). To me, she basically looked like a normal very pretty girl with an amazing body, IE the type you'the struggle to date in real life and also struggle to find in P4P scene because she didn't really look much like a hooker to me. Although in her general demeanor she looked fairly non-impressed, she didn't have that super hard look about her either. Gorgeous in fact. So off we went to the room. Absolute pleasure walking behind her to the room, slender waist, petite without being short, beautiful skin tone and face of an angel. No upselling in the room, just got on with Business. As was expected, She wasn't overly engaged in the whole affair, and actually didn't strike me as a naturally skilled practitioner (this combination making for an 'average' service experience) however she was very pleasant, soft and lived up to her general demeanor out of the room I suppose. She was beautiful all round. Not a hint of cellulite or stretch marks, perfect ass and mid-rife (light rib cage marks peeping through the skin as you get up towards the under side of the breasts, perfect upturned perky boobs. IMO you get less hung up on Service (or PSE) when you select a beauty like this, and I was a very happy man despite in reality a 7/10 at most experience in the room. Let's say 7.5/10 because she was so generally pleasant, hassle-Free and girl-next-door gorgeous.
Name: Anna.
Looks: 9/10.
Service: 7.5/10.
Price: 50/30 min.
Would Repeat why / and? Yes.
Spent some time sun bathing, ate a really nice BBQ dinner served at 5 pm, lounged in the over-sized sauna, spent a lot of time in the jacuzzi also. Being such a bot day it was awesome and extremely relaxing. An overall observation also was that the girls seems pretty chilled and friendly. There were honestly more sharks at Globe last time I went than I encountered here. I'the put the overall standard at Globes higher, however as there were less absolute standouts at Oase. But with an average rating of 7-7.5/10 (even accounting for the worse looking.
Girls, there's not much to dislike about Oase).
With the fact that most girls seemed quite chilled out, plus the exceptional facilitates (large open grasses spaces outside, jacuzzi, very large sauna) the place gave me the overall impression of a health club / spa where guys and girls are chilling and meeting. That probably sounds ridiculous but compared to Globe the last time I went (playing very loud high energy dance music all day, lots of sharks, limited outdoor areas), Oase just seemed to top it for me in achieving this vibe. Really worked for me, I loved it.
Onto the next punt and chose Katerina, Romanian (as were All the girls I talked to in Oase first day). I selected her again due to be one of the more 'pleasant' looking of the bunch in there. I was in a mood whereby I was liking the pretty girl on the street look rather than tattoos, silicone or an overly 'hard' facial look that comes with the Eastern Euro look (and not helped by the job I assume). So off we went. Katerina was a spur of the moment choice and not my best to be honest:
Looks: 7.5/10.
Service: 5.5.
Would Repeat Y/ N? No.
Points knocked off for Service: Once in the room, told me standard 30 min Service was 'boring' (vibe kill). Can't really remember what else she did / didn't do, which speaks volumes however it definitely wasn't anything special / neither was it terrible. The saving grace was the room, which was fully mirrored other than the door. Amazing experience! I've never played in a room like that before and could literally see dozens of reflections. Like when you are in a mirrored lift and see your image recurring to infinity. Top choice of location from Katerina and despite a very lack lustre FK, I wasn't in the slightest bit disappointed.
I decided to leave as I wanted to also go to sharks (I'll post a separate report when time allows). Having been to Sharks I decided I preferred Oase. In summary, hey both had 8's and the Occasional 9 on the line up (more in sharks than Oase if I'm completely honest), however I also found there to be far more lower end girls in Sharks, resulting in a lower average across the board. This obviously effects general impression when you look around the club, etc etc. When you add in the fact that I far preferred the facilities and general 'Roman God / Goddess health club vibe' of Oase then I didn't have too much trouble making the decision that Oase was the place for my half day Friday morning.
Day 2:
Arrived 11:30 am. Obviously way easier getting there second time and not having taken a red-eye like the day before. Was a bit light on numbers when I arrived and similar overall standard to the previous day. I'm guessing maybe 10-15 girls at this time. Saw Anna from previous day and thought I'the be crazy not to repeat. Off to the mirrored room. Session rolled very much like the previous day although I'm pretty sure she got genuinely into it at one point when I was on top. As in the previous day it was just an absolute pleasure being with such a sweet and almost-flawless package (I can't think of any flaws). She asked "are you going to FK my ass today" whilst I was on top, which I thought about for a split second. Just the thought of it was actually enough to Spurr me on to an amazing finish, and save me the 100 eur extra. I was extremely happy despite her less-than-natural talent. To be very clear she mostly just lay there while I enjoyed. Ha ha. Expected. And fine.
So:
Looks: 9/10.
Service: 7.5/10.
Price: 50/30 min.
Would Repeat Y/ N? Yes.
As with the previous day I proceeded to relax and make good use of the facilities. It was great. The breakfast items the had on the buffet was a nice surprise also since I hadn't had a hot breakfast. Sauna was amazing and at this time of day I was the only one in sauna most of the time (ditto the jacuzzi). I was having an absolute ball and whole vibe very relaxing.
At the buffet I'the spotted Miya, who I think I'the seen the previous day but hadn't paid much mind too. She later came over in the inside bar area but I liked her approach, it didn't seem Sharks at all she simply asked a lot of questions about me (I know they all do, but somehow it seemed a bit softer, more genuine and less of a hustle). In chatting to her and looking at her, I decided she was a 8. 5-9/10 (really beautiful Russian model look about her. Again not as harsh as some girls in this kind of work), nothing wrong with the bodywork to report, and something I picked up in her general attitude was that we should go to a room. I asked about mirrored rooms on the basis of yesterday's amazing show. And We chose number 2, which she kindly let me know is another full mirrored room (fully mirrored rooms 1, 2 and 15 through 20 apparently).
Once in the room I was patting myself on the back for an amazing choice. Best service of the trip (Oase or Sharks), and Miya has a great sexy sense of humour too. She did try some gentle upsells before we got started but overall she was super engaged. Longest BJ Of the trip before switching to reverse cowgirl, forward cowgirl, me on top). Even before getting properly started she was moaning etc (and whilst giving me a very sloppy and enthusiastic BJ) . So even though I knew it was fake, she made more of it at all the right times. Made me feel like I was fking in a porno. I don't usually dig fake moans and groans but on this occasion it somehow seemed just the right side of genuine and added to the experience. Her overall image in my eyes was as a medium height / statuesque model-looking Russian who would be dating a mafiosa or something. In other words, very beautiful! The enthusiastic service was a great surprise. I took COF as an extra to finish (50 eur).
Name: Miya.
Looks: 9/10.
Service: 9/10.
Price: 100/30 min (inc COF).
Would Repeat Y/ N? Yes.
I decided to leave soon after (an hour earlier than planned) on the basis that I hadn't seen any girls as hot as the ones I'the been with (if you are into tattoos / silicon / porn star look then there would have been a couple of other Options at this 8. 5-9 standard though. But it wasn't what I was into this trip). So I decided to quit while I was ahead on the basis that I didn't want to chance a poor service session and waste all the efforts Miya has put into making my day.
Overall rates Oase highly. In my books the facilities beat Globe for what I'm into these days (relaxation / health club vibe. Probably assisted by the fact that I went in daytime). Talent was as an average rating probably the same as my last Globe visit in 2016, but not as good as 2013 Globe which was amazing and there were probably 7 or 8 girls in the range of Anna and Miya and the girls below that were better than the lower girls at Oase this time. But that was a long time ago and for those that are interested I'm going to rate the comparison (2016 Globe Vers 2018 Oase) as follows:
Best Girls: Globe but marginal.
Service: Both has great and also disinterested service, so I'm going to call it a draw in this area.
Cost: Oase Obviously a lot cheaper.
Facilities & Rooms: Oase by quite a margin.
So overall Oase betters Globe 2016 but not 2013 where the standard at Globe was incredible. I'the written a report on that trip that some posters in that forum thought was fake because it was so glowing. But 2016 wasn't as good and mixed experience there (I didn't report). 2016 is my most recent visit so can only use that here as my input to the great Oase v Globe debate.
For the record also Oase beat Sharks this time for me, mostly for the reasons stated above regarding greater volume of lower-range lookers, also more of the girls sitting around either with resting ***** face, chewing gum, etc. There were actually more numbers in the very highest looks ratings, but as the facilities were more nightclub / bar my favorite was definitely Oase overall.
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Question mark for GFE and standard rate.
I've been Oase and I was always enjoying 50/30 min standard session. (as I believe).
It was just normal sex with CBJ and changing some position to finish.
Of course there were several times of upselling approach without any success.
But today I would like to try extra option if it seems like okay.
What I want to is something like girl friend sex including french deep kiss and having variety position with 1 hour.
If so, what would be the standard rate for this?
100 should be? Or 150?
And if possible, would it be possible to ask you gentleman to recommend best Girl friend sex girl in the evening and night time?
It would be perfect if you tell me the name and how looks like.
Thank you in advance Gentleman!
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Not going to try to sound like a dick here. But sometimes I can be a dick on the forum, and I have a dick. So here it goes:
With 1 post I have my doubts as to your motifs.
You say you usually do the 50 e /30 m session, but now want more. And at the same time you claim previous upselling attempts have failed. Well, I have studied rethorics, and from common practices in rethorics, this gives you a fairly high chance of being a girl working at Oase, or someone in relation to the girls who may profit from higher margins. Otherwise there would be less of a reason to even mention having turned down upsells in the past. And the 1 post on your name makes this a bit odd while you claim to have been at Oase several times before and gone the cheap route.
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I would also discourage from mentioning names of the top GFE girl (s) at Oase as I fear a few girls there would push the potential top GFE girls at Oase to restrict themselves. This has been a problem at Oase for several years and I know at least 2 girls who has left Oase due to many other girls freezing them out if they get known to be too good in the room. So this info should preferably not be told openly on the forum.
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And only send pm's to nicknames you know well. Not the 1 post names. Although they can't get messages anyway.
So to the new nickname posting: I would suggest you try to ask other guys you meet in the club.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2227204]I would also discourage from mentioning names of the top GFE girl (s) at Oase as I fear a few girls there would push the potential top GFE girls at Oase to restrict themselves. This has been a problem at Oase for several years and I know at least 2 girls who has left Oase due to many other girls freezing them out if they get known to be too good in the room. So this info should preferably not be told openly on the forum.[/QUOTE]This is true in all the clubs and is getting worse in the recent months with a kind of slow down in the business and more and more competition between the girls, we should never forget that 80 percent of the Romanian girls have a pimp or a BF or are married with children, it is given them even more pressure.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2227205]And only send pm's to nicknames you know well. Not the 1 post names. Although they can't get messages anyway.
So to the new nickname posting: I would suggest you try to ask other guys you meet in the club.[/QUOTE]First of all, I would like to send my thanks and sorry for my post without deep concerning. I've never think about your points.
OK I will be at the Oase and ask to Gentleman over there. Thanks!
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Oase Thursday / Friday
Well I did make it to Oase this past Thursday and Friday. Thursday I arrived around 5 PM and it was a nice day so spent some time early relaxing outside. I was looking for Carla & Debora as mentioned in earlier posts. I didn't see either right away but was approached by Maya. She seemed very laid back and we connected after chatting for a while. So we went to the room for an hour and had a pretty good time. A couple of rounds and a nice massage later I went back outside to eat and relax a bit more. I did then see Debora so we chatted for a bit to catch up but she was leaving soon. Probably right after she left the real downer started when the police arrived. This really took the wind out of the night. They were there for their one check I guess happens like every 3-4 years. How lucky to be there. For some stupid reason I hung around and probably around midnight they let a few girls through to work. I did take a nice looking Croatian girl to the room for an hour but her name escapes me. I know it started with an 'A' and she was blondish and slim. Had a couple of rounds with her and then I thought about leaving. It was then that Carla came up behind me and asked me if I remembered her. Well of course since I was looking for you all night! I knew she had blond hair now but still barely recognized her. Fortunately she remembered me. She was leaving so I cut the night short around 2 AM. Thanks to the police for the nightly buzz kill.
I returned back on Friday night again around 5 PM and after showering Carla found me pretty quickly. I ended up spending most of the night with her which of course was very good. We also ended up with Debora for a couple of hours before she went home. I have spent a lot of time in the past with Debora and Diana so was good again to see Debora since Diana is no longer there. Carla and I also spent 2-3 hours with Christina. I was really into Christina. She was very attractive and while quiet at first she really was good in the room after relaxing a bit. She also has 2 sisters working in the club. One older and one younger. I don't remember names but saw the older one and she was attractive as well and seemed to be having fun in the club. Finished off the night with Carla and her roommate Adele for 3-4 hours. Adele was cool.
I will be back for a couple of days later in the week. I'll definitely look for Carla and Debora again along with Christina and maybe her sisters. I did look for Cheyenne but never met up with her. Carla told me she works days so probably missed her. Maybe will also look for her when I first arrive.
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[QUOTE=BigBad;2228095]Well I did make it to Oase this past Thursday and Friday. Thursday I arrived around 5 PM and it was a nice day so spent some time early relaxing outside. I was looking for Carla & Debora as mentioned in earlier posts. I didn't see either right away but was approached by Maya. She seemed very laid back and we connected after chatting for a while. So we went to the room for an hour and had a pretty good time. A couple of rounds and a nice massage later I went back outside to eat and relax a bit more. I did then see Debora so we chatted for a bit to catch up but she was leaving soon. Probably right after she left the real downer started when the police arrived. This really took the wind out of the night. They were there for their one check I guess happens like every 3-4 years. How lucky to be there. For some stupid reason I hung around and probably around midnight they let a few girls through to work. I did take a nice looking Croatian girl to the room for an hour but her name escapes me. I know it started with an 'A' and she was blondish and slim. Had a couple of rounds with her and then I thought about leaving. It was then that Carla came up behind me and asked me if I remembered her. Well of course since I was looking for you all night! I knew she had blond hair now but still barely recognized her. Fortunately she remembered me. She was leaving so I cut the night short around 2 AM. Thanks to the police for the nightly buzz kill..[/QUOTE]When will marry Carla? Cheyenne is a cheating girl probably was fucked by 10000 dicks or more.
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Looking for visit Oase.
Can you guys recommend some sexy blonde pretty girl with muscles?
I searched a bit and find out you guys looking for Carla, Debora, Miya, Ina but can't be sure they still work in here.
Never been to this place before, so any recommendation will be very helpful.
Thanks ahead of time.
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[QUOTE=BringItOnBabe;2228574]Can you guys recommend some sexy blonde pretty girl with muscles?
I searched a bit and find out you guys looking for Carla, Debora, Miya, Ina but can't be sure they still work in here.
Never been to this place before, so any recommendation will be very helpful.
Thanks ahead of time.[/QUOTE]Don't know Miya, but Deborah and Carla although sometimes fake blondes, have usually been brunettes or even ginger (Deborah). Ina is not very muscular. Slim with big naturals. None of these have big muscles either though.
There are always plenty of blondes at Oase. Just go with one you like, more or less muscular. A bigger concern is the upselling.
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[QUOTE=BringItOnBabe;2228574]Can you guys recommend some sexy blonde pretty girl with muscles?
I searched a bit and find out you guys looking for Carla, Debora, Miya, Ina but can't be sure they still work in here.
Never been to this place before, so any recommendation will be very helpful.
Thanks ahead of time.[/QUOTE]I know I am being a wet blanket, but you are asking for a disappointment if you go to Oase just for a handful of girls from reading a forum. They will probably be on a day off or busy, or you will not find them.
If you ask for them by name as a newbie you are just asking to be suckered.
Also, for the reasons Pistons explained earlier, it is hard to get the names of the best girls. More success may come from taking your time to watch the girls and guys returning from rooms and talking to local that is German regular customers
Just go, take your chances, and go by your instinct. And know what the prices are, what the service is, and how this relates to what you want.
Good luck.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2228869]I know I am being a wet blanket, but you are asking for a disappointment if you go to Oase just for a handful of girls from reading a forum. They will probably be on a day off or busy, or you will not find them.
If you ask for them by name as a newbie you are just asking to be suckered.
Also, for the reasons Pistons explained earlier, it is hard to get the names of the best girls. More success may come from taking your time to watch the girls and guys returning from rooms and talking to local that is German regular customers
Just go, take your chances, and go by your instinct. And know what the prices are, what the service is, and how this relates to what you want.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Regular German customers at Oase? Yes a long time ago today it is just a tourist and fair club.
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Miss Colombia.
Can anyone tell me whether Tiziana still works at Oase?
For those who might remember her she is the blonde Colombian with the bubble butt ass and curvy fake breasts. She normally wears a red or black corset and sits at the bar. I have known her to work at Oase since at least 2013 but have not seen her on my visits this year. Perhaps I have just been unlucky or has she moved to another club.
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[QUOTE=Perfectionist;2229361]Can anyone tell me whether Tiziana still works at Oase?
For those who might remember her she is the blonde Colombian with the bubble butt ass and curvy fake breasts. ...[/QUOTE]Don't think so. Haven't spotted her for months. A black Cuban MILF with degraded looks (maybe the poorest looking at Oase right now) was her friend and would be the person to ask.
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[QUOTE=BringItOnBabe;2228574]Can you guys recommend some sexy blonde pretty girl with muscles?
I searched a bit and find out you guys looking for Carla, Debora, Miya, Ina but can't be sure they still work in here.
Never been to this place before, so any recommendation will be very helpful.
Thanks ahead of time.[/QUOTE]Marita Koch DDR, Jarmila Kratochvilova from Tchecoslovakia, but you will have to run fast to catch them.
Tall blond Larissa, maybe Russian?
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[QUOTE=XXL;2229402]Don't think so. Haven't spotted her for months. A black Cuban MILF with degraded looks (maybe the poorest looking at Oase right now) was her friend and would be the person to ask.[/QUOTE]Thanks XXL. I thought that might be the case. And yes. The black Cuban was her friend. Such a shame. Tiziana was such a stunner with the most incredible ass .
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[QUOTE=XXL;2229402]Don't think so. Haven't spotted her for months. A black Cuban MILF with degraded looks (maybe the poorest looking at Oase right now) was her friend and would be the person to ask.[/QUOTE]I've seen the black Cuban at Oase for over 10 years now. I've seen her always get a session or two with her regulars when I visit. She's quite friendly and engages me in conversation even though I've never sessioned her.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2229599]I've seen the black Cuban at Oase for over 10 years now. I've seen her always get a session or two with her regulars when I visit. She's quite friendly and engages me in conversation even though I've never sessioned her.[/QUOTE]Same same. She's so friendly I feel bad not ever sessioning her.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2229632]Same same. She's so friendly I feel bad not ever sessioning her.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing Tiziana may have retired. She did say that it was going to be her last year. Its a real shame as that bubble butt ass was the best I have ever had the pleasure of squeezing. Has anyone else had an encounter with Tiziana. I'm intrigued to hear your thoughts. I was told by one girl on my last visit that Tiziana used to inject her ass with fat from elsewhere which is why it maintained such an incredible curve and feel to the touch.
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[QUOTE=Perfectionist;2229641]I'm guessing Tiziana may have retired. She did say that it was going to be her last year. Its a real shame as that bubble butt ass was the best I have ever had the pleasure of squeezing. Has anyone else had an encounter with Tiziana. I'm intrigued to hear your thoughts. I was told by one girl on my last visit that Tiziana used to inject her ass with fat from elsewhere which is why it maintained such an incredible curve and feel to the touch.[/QUOTE]Don't be sad, so many girls told me that they are quitting for ever, and 3 or 6 months later they were here again.
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Decent Friday at Oase.
Arrived minutes before 4 pm due to delayed flight and traffic.
Better buffet than last time (April). Good variety of girls; lots of sharks approached me. Two grabbed me pretty quickly, we sat down and talked.
Arabella and Anna (Hungary) 100 (50 each) / 30 m.
Blond tight tiny body vs. nicer face larger. Both pushy, wouldn't go unless together, upsell attempts, demanded tip. Since the session was expensive for to two at once and it wasn't that satisfying to me, I want in a tipping mood already, but that made it a hard no. They did not appreciate.
Anna (Romania) 60/30 m.
Was planning to go with Ariana, but she was busy. Saw Anna looking fine (small, sexy, very attractive). Nice chat, into room, gave a short massage and was ready to go. Hot and very pleasant. Did all positions I wanted. Strong finish. Would do again.
Claudia (tattoos) 70/30 m.
Very bubbly. She approached me at one point and chatted me up. Very light pressure, but mainly promising a great time and fantasies. Later I saw Claudia going to a room. She said wait for me. Keeping that in mind, I continued looking and found Ariana again. She was anxious to make dinner money and go. She didn't want another 50 e session. I eventually agreed to an hour, but then she got a call. It was some kind of emergency, and she had to leave.
No worries. I waited for Claudia by the main room. Several girls approached me. A couple gave me attitude, but "I'm waiting for someone" works very well. In any case, we finally met up. Claudia gently tried various upsells, including anal. We agreed that if I was very satisfied, she would deserve a good tip. The session went well even though it was my third. She started with a perfect BBBJ, and then we did several positions. It was some extra work for both of us, and pushed the time limit a bit, but definitely worth it. Given all that had happened in the evening, I figured she earned a 20 e tip.
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Repeated Oase for Ariana.
Sorry for the autocorrect errors in my last post. That's what I get for posting from my phone.
My plan was to hit World or Sharks on Saturday, but I kept remembering that Ariana asked if I was returning on Saturday before she left. So I caved.
Arrived at 3 pm, met a couple of girls and put the word out that I was looking for Ariana. Maya (light brunette, pretty Romanian) caught me and we sat for a while to talk. I liked her and vaguely recalled other people saying she was good, so I decided to session (30 min / 50 e + 10 e tip). It was quite good. My luck may have changed a bit because several girls are now giving me BBBJ without asking. If they ask I always say CBJ because that means it's going to be an upsell.
Then I bumped into Ariana, who was surprised to see me. We made casual plans for a session after eating and relaxing a bit. The girls were looking out for me, because a couple checked back with me to make sure I found her. After a nap in the relaxation room I had some buffet; not quite as good as Friday, but still decent. Some more resting and I was ready to go. I tried to search the club, and was inundated with girls. I told them I was on a mission and they mostly backed off. Eventually Ariana passed by while I was talking with another girl. I waved to her, and she said she'd be back. A minute later she returned and we negotiated for a 1-hour session. She really wants 200 e for her services, but I held firm. My offer was 100 e + 20 e tip if I'm very satisfied. I promised relaxation and only one 30 min round. Eventually she agreed and we headed off to the room.
We talked for a few minutes at first as we stroked each other's bodies. Then I gave her a good massage, like I do with the girls at Globe. Something that went really well in this session is how each part naturally flowed into the next. There was no rush or hassle. She did say she's not very good at blow jobs and prefers sex. Her BBBJ was good enough, maybe due to having a bit of collagen in her lips. The sex was quite good in all positions. I used the mirrors extensively. Ariana really is beautiful. Afterwards she gave me a weak massage and we talked a bit more. As we were leaving her boyfriend texted and seemed jealous. Whatever. If you meet her, she can tell you the backstory. Let's just say she didn't make it through the Globe interview and got fired from GT.
I took a long break, ordered a pizza (pretty good), and eventually went back to the couches to interview candidates. One or two at a time they stopped by. Eventually I beckoned Natalia (pretty, small girl, black hair with a blueish tint) to come over. We had talked briefly earlier in the day, and I was enjoying the optics on Friday. I decided even though it was late that I would go for a third session. This may have been a bad idea. She tried various upsell attempts. If ever I was going to be tempted to pay for anal, she's got the ass for it. It took a while to negotiate 30 min / 50 e + tip if satisfied. We started with a short massage, which she enjoyed and got me going. CBJ was pretty good, and then she hopped on. We took turns doing the work, and it was hot--extensive mirror usage again. When we tried to switch I asked for doggy style and she went to normal. I tried, but she wouldn't help me with the aim and things started to falter. I got her to switch to doggy, and it was hot for a few minutes until, for a handful of reasons, the wheels came off. She had talked about upsells too much, complained about pain, and kept pulling away during doggy style. She had no mercy when I started having difficulties because it's my third session, second day, it's late, etc. All she wanted to do was extend and we were only 20 minutes in with things going sideways. The rest of the session was a waste, and I didn't finish. This makes me sad because she really does have a great body and I totally could have saved it if she was working with me at all. Maybe it's time to try V. Suffice to say, she got no tip. By this point it was 11 pm. I know I'm done, so I took a quick shower and left Oase. 2.5 great sessions really isn't that bad.
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Ariana fired from GT? Is she black hair with very pretty face, white skin, small, with something special around vagina lips?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2230563]Ariana fired from GT? Is she black hair with very pretty face, white skin, small, with something special around vagina lips?[/QUOTE]Yes, exactly! She has a little chaos going on, but I like her and had a nice session.
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[QUOTE=Catmouse123;2059454]I sessioned with Cora. Late 20's / early 30's. Super petite, A cups with perky nipples. No sag. Flat stomach, cute little ass. Very nice personality. Slight upsell in the room when I asked for 69 position, but I declined. Only did BJ and sex. Her pussy is amazing. Very tight and felt great. Amazing.
[/QUOTE]Did petite Cora leaving Oase?
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2231449]Did petite Cora leaving Oase?[/QUOTE]69 is becoming a extra? I wondering where all this will lead us but for me at least not in the right direction the girls are killing their business in 5 or 10 years it will be dead like in Paris today.
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Any sightings of Cameron Diaz Adelle or Red Hair Beatrice?
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LU alert
Friday September 5th, 5:20 pm, male to female ratio = 1 but high quality LU, many top-girls present.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2232554]Any sightings of Cameron Diaz Adelle or Red Hair Beatrice?[/QUOTE]Seen Adelle (Adele?) at Oase this month, yes, cute as always.
Don't know who is Beatrice.
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Tattoo Claudia, at last
I was rewarded for having left World for Oase as my favourite Oase girl, indeed my favourite WG period, was to be found at last. I had drawn blank in this respect on my previous 3 visits. Short session with finale 50 + 30 tip. Gosh I'm really keen on that girl! My stand-offishness, abruptness of approach and unromantic primitive sexual predilections more likely than not protect me from attempts on her part to raise my illusions and squeeze me badly.
One girl shouted angry words across the pool as Italian assholes standing behind me tried to take pics. I also had my handphone and I thought she meant me. An akward misunderstanding ensued.
When I left at 7 pm I regretted having no more energy to have first or repeat sessions with at least half a dozen girls present. Girls kept reporting for work and there was no sign (yet) of a sausage fest.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2232757]I was rewarded for having left World for Oase as my favourite Oase girl, indeed my favourite WG period, was to be found at last. I had drawn blank in this respect on my previous 3 visits. Short session with finale 50 + 30 tip. Gosh I'm really keen on that girl! My stand-offishness, abruptness of approach and unromantic primitive sexual predilections more likely than not protect me from attempts on her part to raise my illusions and squeeze me badly.
One girl shouted angry words across the pool as Italian assholes standing behind me tried to take pics. I also had my handphone and I thought she meant me. An akward misunderstanding ensued.
When I left at 7 pm I regretted having no more energy to have first or repeat sessions with at least half a dozen girls present. Girls kept reporting for work and there was no sign (yet) of a sausage fest.[/QUOTE]Difficult to compare Oase and World, so much easier for Oase to attract sexy girls so closer from Frankfurt also so many more tourist therefor less service, one time customers are so much easier to milk.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2232709]Friday September 5th, 5:20 pm, male to female ratio = 1 but high quality LU, many top-girls present.[/QUOTE]Of course they need to earn cash to support boy friends and pimps.
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2232745]Seen Adelle (Adele?) at Oase this month, yes, cute as always.
Don't know who is Beatrice.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Give Beatrice a try if she comes back. She usually works during the day during the summers. She'll be the girl beating most men in ping pong and probably juggling the soccer ball in the garden.
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Elizabeth Hu.
[QUOTE=Mangga;2205456]Anybody knows when is Elizabeth coming back?[/QUOTE]Have not seen Elizabeth Hu in some months now unfortunately. She gives best BJ I have ever experienced.
Does anyone know if and when she will be back?
Thanks in advance!
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Not so good
Been Tueday afternoon.
I had an average experience but maybe I am not lucky.
Had a very average session with Anna slim, curly dark blond hair, 165 cm, form Hungary she would not do BBBJ even with upsell, she is ultra careful with hygiene even she did not let me.
Finish completely while I was in her, cause she said she is afraid about condoms can brake! All this with two flies trying to sit on my legs while having sex.
Anyway, fortunately I had opted for the 50 eur cause I had a bad feeling.
I cannot even complain with these girls they are simply not right for this profession and should not do it.
Went to eat something and it was full of flies! I did not dare to touch anything. So I left.
OAse is not my club!
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Comvos2002;2234891]Been Tueday afternoon.
I had an average experience but maybe I am not lucky.
Had a very average session with Anna slim, curly dark blond hair, 165 cm, form Hungary she would not do BBBJ even with upsell, she is ultra careful with hygiene even she did not let me.
Finish completely while I was in her, cause she said she is afraid about condoms can brake! All this with two flies trying to sit on my legs while having sex.
Anyway, fortunately I had opted for the 50 eur cause I had a bad feeling.
I cannot even complain with these girls they are simply not right for this profession and should not do it.
Went to eat something and it was full of flies! I did not dare to touch anything. So I left.
OAse is not my club!
Cheers.[/QUOTE]I noticed a lot of flies too on my last visit one month ago. Management should do something! You don't want people get sick.
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[QUOTE=Comvos2002;2234891]...
Went to eat something and it was full of flies! I did not dare to touch anything. So I left.
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[/QUOTE]On my last visit but one I had planned to have a nap and do some reading on the couches in the rest room. The flies didn't give me a break. I mentioned the fact at reception when I left.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2234957]On my last visit but one I had planned to have a nap and do some reading on the couches in the rest room. The flies didn't give me a break. I mentioned the fact at reception when I left.[/QUOTE]2nd that. One of reason I keep coming back to Oase is its relax room. With so many flies flying around, it is not relax room any more. I too complain to the lady at front when I left.
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[QUOTE=Comvos2002;2234891]Been Tueday afternoon.
I had an average experience but maybe I am not lucky.
Had a very average session with Anna slim, curly dark blond hair, 165 cm, form Hungary she would not do BBBJ even with upsell, she is ultra careful with hygiene even she did not let me.
Finish completely while I was in her, cause she said she is afraid about condoms can brake! All this with two flies trying to sit on my legs while having sex.
Anyway, fortunately I had opted for the 50 eur cause I had a bad feeling.
I cannot even complain with these girls they are simply not right for this profession and should not do it.
Went to eat something and it was full of flies! I did not dare to touch anything. So I left.
OAse is not my club!
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Flies are good meat.
Oase like Palace and Mainhattan are upselling land, when these clubs rate 50/30 mn, but most of girls don t respect club rate. Usually, high level, smart girls respect club rate.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2234951]I noticed a lot of flies too on my last visit one month ago. Management should do something! You don't want people get sick.[/QUOTE]This happens every year because the surrounding farms fertilize and then the club BBQ outside all of the time. Flies will be gone when it gets colder.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2235063]This happens every year because the surrounding farms fertilize and then the club BBQ outside all of the time. Flies will be gone when it gets colder.[/QUOTE]Yes, I notice so many fly at Oase lately this month, even many in locker room where they are not usually. Thinking it due to nearby farm, as you have clarify in your post!
So some advice to avoid Oase September to October perhaps when the manure of farm is fresh?
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Flies.
I wanted to visit Oase for the first time next week and now I read it is full of flies?
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2235240]Yes, I notice so many fly at Oase lately this month, even many in locker room where they are not usually. Thinking it due to nearby farm, as you have clarify in your post!
So some advice to avoid Oase September to October perhaps when the manure of farm is fresh?[/QUOTE]Good explanations but it is just terrible and what about if Mauro gives some discount to balance this negative aspect?
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[QUOTE=Jolokia;2235240]Yes, I notice so many fly at Oase lately this month, even many in locker room where they are not usually. Thinking it due to nearby farm, as you have clarify in your post!
So some advice to avoid Oase September to October perhaps when the manure of farm is fresh?[/QUOTE]The flies at Oase are a big nuisance. You will be getting a BBBJ and then a fly will be tickling your leg causing you to react and disturb the girl sucking on your dick.
Then you will be fucking the girl and keep getting flies distracting you landing and tickling your backside as you hump your chosen female rump.
Even in winter due to the warm innards of Oase those pesky flies still abound.
Some fly spray would not go amiss.
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[QUOTE=OmarRap;2235988]Even in winter due to the warm innards of Oase those pesky flies still abound.
Some fly spray would not go amiss.[/QUOTE]Not confident about this declaration. Have never noticed the fly problem during the last 2 winters, unlike the summers.
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Oase Russian girl Anastasia.
Just came back from Oase. Today is Monday. Even if I expected the lineup would be weak, I was still extremely shocked that the club was so much empty. There were less than 25 girls at peak time around 8 pm.
Among them There were only 3 girls would fit my taste: Anastasia, 21 yo, Russian girl, with blue eyes; Emma, Ro, 22 yo; Marina, Ro, 22 yo;.
Anastasia is my delight. Very cute, Very friendly, Very honest, and Good service. I was so relaxed in room with her. She is a real gem at Oase club.
Detailed reports will be posted after I complete this autumn FKK tour.
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Some fly spray would not go amiss.[/QUOTE]I'd be more comfortable with fly sticky tape.
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LU still scanty at 4 pm this Tuesday
Still no sight of tattoo Claudia or Serbian Heidi, my two 50 euro + tip favourites at Oase. Just had a session with Amy who has the same body as Shark's Brenda but very different eyes. Amy is one of my 100-euro substitutes for want of the aforesaid favourites. Warm weather, 4 pm feels and looks like 8 pm on a warm summer day. My next visit here will not be until Spring 2019. A bit sad. Funny how a place like this can grow on you and feel like a 2nd home.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2236621]I'd be more comfortable with fly sticky tape.[/QUOTE]Fly tape is a lot less gaseous solution than aerosols.
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LU greatly improved at 6:30
Lots of girls pining for clients. Heidi turned up and the session with her was short and intense, price tag 50 + 20. She has very thin bones. I am not big and still I could hold her by the wrist between my finger and thumb. She has protruding shoulderblades creating a hollow between them as she walks. Turns me on.
The grandfathering scheme under which I am spared the upselling to 100 entails sessioning the girl each time if she is available. This is fine as I only visit 7 or 8 times a year.
Tomorrow Paradise Stuttgart.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2236763]Lots of girls pining for clients. Heidi turned up and the session with her was short and intense, price tag 50 + 20. She has very thin bones. I am not big and still I could hold her by the wrist between my finger and thumb. She has protruding shoulderblades creating a hollow between them as she walks. Turns me on.
The grandfathering scheme under which I am spared the upselling to 100 entails sessioning the girl each time if she is available. This is fine as I only visit 7 or 8 times a year.
Tomorrow Paradise Stuttgart.[/QUOTE]Nice to see that you were happy to fuck this very experienced Heidi, sorry but even she will pay me I will go with her.
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AO Scam at Oase.
I was at Oase last week and had a session with a 30+ year old Girl named Alina? She approached me in the cinema and told me it would be 50 for 1/2 HR. I didn't really want to have a session with her but she got me hard with her hand under my robe as she kissed me. I thought I would get rid of by asking if Kissing, BJ without condom, licking her,& fingering her would be included for the 50 Euros. She kept saying yes, yes, yes & yes. I told her that I would go to the room with her for 50 .
In the room we did light kissing then I licked her pussy for a while. I asked for BJ and she sat on top of me and rubbed her pussy up and down my dick. She was trying to get me hard but it was not working so she bent down and then gave me a BBBJ. When I got hard she got completely on top of me and we kissed while she rubbed herself against me. Then I felt myself going inside and she quickly sat up pushing it in all the way. I asked about the condom and she put her finger against her lips and said " shhh, quiet, they will hear you". I was already inside her so I went along for the ride.
When I started to finish she jumped off quickly and tried to finish me with a handjob. She was a little too late and half my DNA was already inside her. She then pulled a condom out of her purse and pointed to my dick saying " you no use condom" I told her that was her doing. She told me I must pay her more now. I asked how much and she told me to be quiet again because they will hear. She took out her cell phone and showed it to me. It said 150! I told her no way I'm paying that much. She showed me her phone again and it now said 100. At this point I know I am scammed but I also know I don't want to report this to the manager. With the new law and her word against mine I might ending up being banned from the club or if they call the Police I could be paying a big fine. I gave her the 100. Later on she approached me again near the cinema and asked if I wanted to go to the room again with her. I told her she already has all my money and I was now broke. She gave me a big smile and walked away.
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[QUOTE=Tp273;2237598]I was at Oase last week and had a session with a 30+ year old Girl named Alina? She approached me in the cinema and told me it would be 50 for 1/2 HR. I didn't really want to have a session with her but she got me hard with her hand under my robe as she kissed me. I thought I would get rid of by asking if Kissing, BJ without condom, licking her,& fingering her would be included for the 50 Euros. She kept saying yes, yes, yes & yes. I told her that I would go to the room with her for 50 .
In the room we did light kissing then I licked her pussy for a while. I asked for BJ and she sat on top of me and rubbed her pussy up and down my dick. She was trying to get me hard but it was not working so she bent down and then gave me a BBBJ. When I got hard she got completely on top of me and we kissed while she rubbed herself against me. Then I felt myself going inside and she quickly sat up pushing it in all the way. I asked about the condom and she put her finger against her lips and said " shhh, quiet, they will hear you". I was already inside her so I went along for the ride.
When I started to finish she jumped off quickly and tried to finish me with a handjob. She was a little too late and half my DNA was already inside her. She then pulled a condom out of her purse and pointed to my dick saying " you no use condom" I told her that was her doing. She told me I must pay her more now. I asked how much and she told me to be quiet again because they will hear. She took out her cell phone and showed it to me. It said 150! I told her no way I'm paying that much. She showed me her phone again and it now said 100. At this point I know I am scammed but I also know I don't want to report this to the manager. With the new law and her word against mine I might ending up being banned from the club or if they call the Police I could be paying a big fine. I gave her the 100. Later on she approached me again near the cinema and asked if I wanted to go to the room again with her. I told her she already has all my money and I was now broke. She gave me a big smile and walked away.[/QUOTE]Don't be naive, she just find a way to suck 50 more from new, probably she was a very experienced hooker who doesn't care about her health, may be are you not aware that you took a very high risk for your health, may be you were her 30000 mongers.
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[QUOTE=Tp273;2237598]I was at Oase last week and had a session with a 30+ year old Girl named Alina.[/QUOTE]Hi Tp273,
Thanks for the reporting.
To illustrate the story more could you describe Alina more like maybe height, hair color and style, any tattoos, beast size (and whether fake or real) or other distinguishing features please?
It will help identify Alina in future.
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It Could Have Been Worse
[QUOTE=Tp273;2237598]I was at Oase last week and had a session with a 30+ year old Girl named Alina? She approached me in the cinema and told me it would be 50 for 1/2 HR. I didn't really want to have a session with her but she got me hard with her hand under my robe as she kissed me. I thought I would get rid of by asking if Kissing, BJ without condom, licking her,& fingering her would be included for the 50 Euros. She kept saying yes, yes, yes & yes. I told her that I would go to the room with her for 50 .
In the room we did light kissing then I licked her pussy for a while. I asked for BJ and she sat on top of me and rubbed her pussy up and down my dick. She was trying to get me hard but it was not working so she bent down and then gave me a BBBJ. When I got hard she got completely on top of me and we kissed while she rubbed herself against me. Then I felt myself going inside and she quickly sat up pushing it in all the way. I asked about the condom and she put her finger against her lips and said " shhh, quiet, they will hear you". I was already inside her so I went along for the ride.
When I started to finish she jumped off quickly and tried to finish me with a handjob. She was a little too late and half my DNA was already inside her. She then pulled a condom out of her purse and pointed to my dick saying " you no use condom" I told her that was her doing. She told me I must pay her more now. I asked how much and she told me to be quiet again because they will hear. She took out her cell phone and showed it to me. It said 150! I told her no way I'm paying that much. She showed me her phone again and it now said 100. At this point I know I am scammed but I also know I don't want to report this to the manager. With the new law and her word against mine I might ending up being banned from the club or if they call the Police I could be paying a big fine. I gave her the 100. Later on she approached me again near the cinema and asked if I wanted to go to the room again with her. I told her she already has all my money and I was now broke. She gave me a big smile and walked away.[/QUOTE]The following happened to me decades ago in a small island in the Caribbean. I went to a brothel and chose a provider. We went to the room, BBBJ was followed by FS. After less than 1 minute the girl screams, pulls out the good condom from me and produces a broken condom, management enters and she accuses me of surreptitiously (my word) breaking the condom to have BBFS with her. They believe her, she gets my money for less than 1 minute of sex and I am sent packing. Count your blessings.
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Turgid. I wonder if that was a scam that the house was in on.
TP273 - That actually doesn't sound too bad to me. The Kinos always have the highest concentration of sharks. If you want to avoid sharks avoid the Kino. However, I kind of like when a girl comes up to me and gets me going. I'm not the rabbit I used to be and after a few sessions, I need a little help. This reminds me of a spinner named Isabelle. She chose me and I'm glad she did.
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At Oase
I'm currently writing from Oase.
Currently, on a Friday, low amount of customers, medium amount of girls. Girl guy ratio a stable slightly below 1 at my estimation.
Just had a session, my earliest so far, with Aloina, 27 yo dark brunette claiming to be Maltese. It was very good. Just what I wanted, she had a body that is to die for and skills to get me interested to match. Definitely worthy of a repeat and well within the kind of service I would have wanted here and at any club.
I guess Oase isn't done yet.
Feel free to PM me if you're in the area.
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Getting to Oase without a taxi
Just for those who are interested:
It is possible to get to Oase using public transportation alone from the centre. Take the U2 to gonzenheim, get out at the end of the line, then take Bus line 12 to "Gewerbegebiet" get out at the end of the line and take the path north past some fields then take the first path right, should take less than 10 minutes.
Easy peasy, and saves 10 euros on the taxi to get there from Friederichsdorf, or more.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2237888]I'm currently writing from Oase.
Currently, on a Friday, low amount of customers, medium amount of girls. Girl guy ratio a stable slightly below 1 at my estimation.
Just had a session, my earliest so far, with Aloina, 27 yo dark brunette claiming to be Maltese. It was very good. Just what I wanted, she had a body that is to die for and skills to get me interested to match. Definitely worthy of a repeat and well within the kind of service I would have wanted here and at any club.
I guess Oase isn't done yet.
Feel free to PM me if you're in the area.[/QUOTE]Thanks but 5 years back on a Friday Oase was full of girls and mongers, just the results today of Mauro management, cheating the mongers and fucking the girls all this will lead nowhere, as long enough tourists around it is ok business for oase and Mauro bu thow long will it last.
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Ridiculous girl / guy ratios
So tonight, Friday at 8 pm, the girl / guy ratio is absolutely off the hook for now.
2/1 maybe 3/1 at this point in time, relatively few customers and around 60 girls possibly.
Sat in the kino with a coffee and they were approaching in waves, each time one (or a couple) another came till I finally just left. So far today it's been a buyer's market in contrast to my last trip here.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2237986]So tonight, Friday at 8 pm, the girl / guy ratio is absolutely off the hook for now.
2/1 maybe 3/1 at this point in time, relatively few customers and around 60 girls possibly.
Sat in the kino with a coffee and they were approaching in waves, each time one (or a couple) another came till I finally just left. So far today it's been a buyer's market in contrast to my last trip here.[/QUOTE]Nice results for Mauro management, will he be able one day to understand that to let the Romanian mafia girls controlling the ops and only focusing on tourist will lead nowhere, I am not sure so many senior German mongers have already stopped any visit to Oase.
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Rundown of my Friday night at Oase
Good stuff. Much better than my last trip months ago. In fact, it beat my visit to Sharks last week, to my great surprise.
Arrived for a relaxing day quite early, around 2 pm. Stable proportions as the LU was assembling over the next few hours. Then to my surprise again, the numbers were again way out of whack, but this time to the customer's advantage. The main room was filled with girls whilst the number of guys was much less. 2 or 3/1 by 8 pm. It was so bad that unfortunately as the night went on, large numbers of the girls just disappeared at a certain point though still leaving plenty there. By 12 it was back to around 1/1. No Italian sausage Fests this time around.
One of the girls mentioned that this is now a regular thing as the Messe is over and less people are crowding in to enjoy the summer weather. Nevertheless plenty of Asian tourists.
Such being the case I naturally found what I wanted more or less easily.
Plenty of new faces around. This time seemingly for the better.
Also now with my new route straight there without needing a taxi, plus the natural 50 euro entry before 4 pm, Oase is back in the running with Sharks. I noticed a number of other improvements. Girls seemed to have better attitudes and more playful (or maybe I've just become a nicer guy? Or maybe people just happened to remember me by now). Staff at the bar seemed friendlier. Sauna has hourly perfumed water and a Saunameister now. Wednesday is 50 euro entry all day.
Sessions: unlike the bullshit last time, I didn't really need to compromise on anything. Two sessions:
Aliona (mentioned below in my post right afterwards) first at around 3 pm I think, who gave a great service, as mentioned below. Gave deep kissing to start off, an amazing BJ. On top before doggy style. Bothered me for a tip afterwards, otherwise recommended.
1:30 am Anastasia next, mentioned below by another forum member who I can thank for the suggestion. She's new, has been here around three months, Russian apparently though her mannerisms support this. Young, Very slim with brown hair, long legs, and dark mascara covering her eyes. She was rather mysterious and would not give her age or much other info about herself, yet quite direct. She however gave me what I wanted (though she for some reason did not want to take her shoes off, my only gripe which I reluctantly acquiesced to.) and more (mentioned something initially along the lines that I could cum in her mouth if I wanted to) deep set of kisses to start, before proceeding with a heavenly BJ with ball licking. A bit of awkward set of exchanges after when I tried to learn more about her, then left. Yes, I recommend if you don't mind shoes. Fine, I can do better than that: she's good, recommended.
By now, I just relaxed and eventually didn't bother with a 3rd session though I was tempted to. If my memory serves me right, the law of diminishing returns plus it being 3 or 4 am made it less worth it. Better saved for entry next time.
Oase this time bounced back in my eyes. I made full use of the facilities, getting good service was much less of an issue, though I'll offer the caveat that I didn't actively go polling the girls on the service. When I felt like it, I just laid the cards on the table, and the girls I think for the most part assess their bargaining position, whether an up sell is worth losing a potential customer. This will not be the case when the ratio is 3 customers to 1 girl like in the summer.
My problem remains that I ended up being there so long that at one point or the other I had rejected almost the entire LU (though I tried to do it nicely, one of the girls stopped by later and told me that Angeline Jolie isn't coming in tonight). This time however came closer to my first visit than to my previous one. I will be back.
And I'm happy to have reached my 200th post.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2238119]Good stuff. Much better than my last trip months ago. In fact, it beat my visit to Sharks last week, to my great surprise.
Arrived for a relaxing day quite early, around 2 pm. Stable proportions as the LU was assembling over the next few hours. Then to my surprise again, the numbers were again way out of whack, but this time to the customer's advantage. The main room was filled with girls whilst the number of guys was much less. 2 or 3/1 by 8 pm. It was so bad that unfortunately as the night went on, large numbers of the girls just disappeared at a certain point though still leaving plenty there. By 12 it was back to around 1/1. No Italian sausage Fests this time around.
One of the girls mentioned that this is now a regular thing as the Messe is over and less people are crowding in to enjoy the summer weather. Nevertheless plenty of Asian tourists.
Such being the case I naturally found what I wanted more or less easily...[/QUOTE]Good report Lanthano. Your characteristic to take your time and decision making based on you always have a next time so it's okay to not push to do another girl when your body is not at 100% is a symptom of being based locally which shines through. Thank you for this where you give a more local view of the scene.
Its not having that utmost desire to keep doing that extra girl that puts the playing cards back in your own hands.