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[QUOTE=Dufey;1614871]But this is the problem. Like Bad Boy Billy when I visited there were so few customers and so I was being hit upon frequently for taking to the room or Kino. But so many girls would not kiss or allow this or that. Just straight suck and fuck as per what the Reception says. So these girls were knocked back. This diminishes the pool of candidates. I have also certain needs of my own so when thoae are not met then it is kind of difficult unless you succumb to the one hour deal or paying 100 euro for the kissing is extra.[/QUOTE]Which day was so quiet? I have attended Wednesday evening and Saturday afternoon and have not found it that quiet in terms of men, that it was a problem. I have not been hit upon that much. I guess I have had a lot more time to suss out the better girls and have only tried those that were very pretty or seemed very popular.
Is my face much more well known than yours? It would be by now, but not perhaps on my first Oase visit of the year which was about 3 months ago. I have only had 3 girls total this year at Oase that either didn't kiss or very weak kissing. That is honest truth. One of the three, Christina, I don't really care. Another was a total Kastasrophe Vanessa / Raissa.
However I accept that it is proving tougher for others with higher requirements for what the girls will do. I guess I am relatively easy to please and not looking for anything exotic. However I have had plenty of upsell offers.
I can only recall one attempt to get me to the kino, probably as I don't spend much time in the dark zone. Perhaps I also look far more unapproachable than very smilie types.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1614948]So is this a different Oase than couple years ago? I've seen couples kissing on the lounge or the white couch area. None of that? Also, the Oase veteran girls that used to DFK, just flatly refuse now? I'm asking if there is a large contrast in girls providing DFK and other stuff compared to like couple ears ago. When I used to attend back in 2012, service was pretty good, although as a newb I put myself in ripoff situations earlier before I caught on.[/QUOTE]To be honest, I haven't noticed a lot of difference other than the stronger upsell. However others are telling me so many girls do not kiss. I am not sure I accept it just yet.
I got kissing from: Anca (gone), Jennifer, Carla / Cindy, Michelle (slightly weird kisser), Brianna (blonde), Sabina, Michaela, Annabell (in 60 minutes), Bianca (session not good overall), Crina, May. In contrast 3 girls gave none or very little. I could have forgot someone. Yes I forgot Deborah. Bad Boy Billy says no kissing but I got kissing without a problem. I did not promise an hour but she would be aware I usually go the hour I guess. This could be the well known face verses the unknown?
I like to be very specific rather than give a vague impression. I am aware of several other girls with good kissing reputations, that I have not done as yet. I don't ask girls if they kiss, so I cannot be expert on the usual answers.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1614894]Dufey, I'm afraid HB just isn't very reliable when he talks about Oase. Even on his own little forum full of locals, which apparently isn't his, there is a very similar discussion whit the conclusion that HB is such a well known face in Oase, that the girls most probably approach him differently than us less regular guys.
He should just be happy with being in this position and not try to counter every report that says differently.[/QUOTE]Yes, just keep repeating it over and over again, maybe it's going to get true. If it was. Why do I have bad sessions at Oase? Ariana was the last one.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1614587]So what you call me with 12 years of clubbing and close to 1,000 visits?
HB.[/QUOTE]I am not sure. I know a german tourist that visited the clubs 300 times in a calendar year.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1615023]Yes, just keep repeating it over and over again, maybe it's going to get true. If it was. Why do I have bad sessions at Oase? Ariana was the last one.
HB.[/QUOTE]I'd have to agree with HB here. At Oase, being a familiar face doesn't matter as much anymore-unless said familiar face is a big-spender. As long as Oase can attract busloads of East Asians, these girls don't see a need on pleasing the Stammgaste, simply because there is less economic dependence on the Stammgaste as compared to years past.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1614894]Dufey, I'm afraid HB just isn't very reliable when he talks about Oase. Even on his own little forum full of locals, which apparently isn't his, there is a very similar discussion whit the conclusion that HB is such a well known face in Oase, that the girls most probably approach him differently than us less regular guys.
He should just be happy with being in this position and not try to counter every report that says differently.[/QUOTE]Seems a bit harsh. I'm certainly not a regular or long termer at Oase, but I've had remarkably similar experiences to HB. I've noticed we also seem to have similar tastes and experiences with some girls that aren't that regularly discussed. I choose my girls on the basis of what I see and like, not on reports. But I do pay more attention to HBs posts than anyone else.
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[quote=hessenbub;1614586]upsell. so what. a girl offering her services. as long as she is only asking for or offering it once and doesn't get annoyed or give you bad service if you deny. who cares? that is no sharky behavior and no upsell[/quote]agree 100%, but recently i've gotten five upsell attempts. and around the 15 minute mark the girls attitude sours completely. they get a princess-like attitude and react as if there is something wrong with me for not having cum yet.
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regulars: i've seen so many idiots complaining an whining about a bad session they had. who cares, it was 50 damage, nothing else. you didn't get married, you are not bankrupt. when i see a girl i want i go talk to her. good vibes. go fuck her. bad vibes. if she's a must have. go fuck her, expect nothing. lose 50 or gain a good session as a surprise.
hb.[/quote]but if the epidemic continues, we could be getting 2-3 bad sessions in a row. i agree that 50 eur is not a lot. 50 eur is like a speeding ticket. it's no big deal and i probably wouldn't notice. but it is the disrespectful attitude that some of these girls exhibit.
why do these girls act like they are too good for 50 eur, when this is the market rate? i've been to oase about five times since may. there aren't any must do girls for me. i wouldn't say it is because the current oase lineup is overhypedhyped at the moment, but more because i have unique and narrow preferences / fetishes. must haves are relatively rare for me. i probably can count on one hand the ones that i must do that same day in my entire fkk career, where i was giddy and camped out at the money locker for three hours waiting for them. of course on the rare occasion that i find them and the service was indeed bad, i tolerated it and in a few cases even went back for seconds, and thirds!
if they think they can do better, more power to them. we all know about czech linda working in switzerland charging 400-500 eur an hour (actually saw her once at this rate). but some of these girls get brought back to reality. illona world / gt tried to work the private scene, now she's back at gt--doing moderate business but certainly not one of the most popular girls at gt.
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[QUOTE=Dufey;1615058]I am not sure. I know a german tourist that visited the clubs 300 times in a calendar year.[/QUOTE]WTF. He must be extreme rich. And got nothing to do. And sex-addicted.
OK, I'm just being jealous.
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Oase on 31 August
I returned to Oase today, and had a great time. The girls I saw today.
Vanessa, very skinny, looking blonde. She approached me three times, and just asked "you want to go to room", no "Hello, She had a tight little body, so I kept talking to her. She said she doesn't kiss with tongue or lick balls without paying extra, so I told her I was not interested.
Diana ("Dee-yana" dark-skinned Dominican with fake tits and soft features, very fit and very pretty. I had her join me in the kino, where she stroked my body and my cock while we talked, getting me in the mood. She was willing to kiss, but was not as heavy with the kissing as May. In the room, she gave a very good blow job. There was saliva everywhere, and her mouth felt great on my cock and balls. The strange thing was that she said it would cost extra to lick her pussy, but she gladly sucked and licked all over my balls. We finally put on a condom and finished in cowgirl. I was very satisfied, 8/10.
Kelly, dark-skinned Dominican with big fake tits and a pretty face. She was not as fit as Diana and the skin on her ass was not so smooth, but she was enthusiastic. We started in the kino, where she started giving me a blow job before going in the room. In the room, she was very good. She made so much noise with all the saliva during the blow job, and she gladly accepted fingers in her pussy and ass while we were in 69. She also spent a lot of time rimming (for 50 eur extra), and then also gave me a prostate massage while riding me cowgirl. I had a very intense, very loud orgasm. Many of you seem to not like paying extra for some services. I usually agree, but this rimming and prostate massage was worth the extra 50 eur. This was the best session I have had in a club, 9/10.
Ariana, Romanian, brown hair and soft features, very pretty (are there two Ariana's? She approached me and said I had told her I would see her later when I was in the club a few days ago, but that I didn't. After she told me her name, I realized that the girl I complained about a few days ago (for not kissing) was also Ariana, but I could not remember if it was the same face. I told her I think we fucked, and she said "no, you told me you would come with me, but then you went someplace else. " I told her I was disappointed a few days ago with a girl called Ariana that I think is her, and she told me there is another Ariana also, maybe it was her. I still do not know if she was telling the truth, but her attitude was better this time. She gave a good wet blow job, and then I fucked her to finish in doggy. She was nothing special, but very pretty and good last fuck of the night, 7/10.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1615102]WTF. He must be extreme rich. And got nothing to do. And sex-addicted.
OK, I'm just being jealous.[/QUOTE]Yes, you would be correct. Scions of family fortunes or self made men who let others run the business or retired guys with good pensions.
There are guys in Frankfurt going to these clubs 3 to 5 times a week. Same for the NRW clubs where guys may go 5 times a week. Golden Time junkies. You get to know them since you are around too.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1615102]WTF. He must be extreme rich. And got nothing to do. And sex-addicted.
OK, I'm just being jealous.[/QUOTE]Swiss Mr. P, I am meeting in FKK virtually every week. He may be averaging 3 to 5 FKK clubs per week. So whether I have been to Sharks, World, or Oase, I still see him. He also visits others. He has commented about Finca Erotica a few times. Naturally we discuss girls since we have pretty much the same taste. Both like Optifik Christina who doesn't kiss.
It is fine if that is how he relaxes and doesn't have to work. I am sure he would not want to have a wife, although we only ever discuss girls and clubs.
What better hobby, than fucking young girls. Doing his bit to keep the girls employed.
Doing FKKs daily is beyond me these days. Run out of stamina. I don't pop very easily.
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Oase Day 2
Arrived ad 2 pm and first thing you notice is sparsity of both girls and guys but whatever it is is what it is.
Sonia Romania 23 169 black hair perfect small titties lovely flawless slim young smooth body. Plenty kissing blow job so so but otherwise very willing performer and total session very good.
Surge Romania 22 170 long black hair perfect big hard natural titts perfect smooth hard young body plenty kissing deep throat [B]STELLAR[/B] performer. Saw her Sat but she was so busy - said she lost count of customers Sat - could have been 20 to 25.
Monica Bulgaria 27 170 black hair bolt ons just a true professional pleased on all fronts. Big powerful whoare who could kick start a jumbo - but she is very experienced and just knows how to please - sometimes you just need a total pro to work as hard as you do.
Simona Bulgarian 25 155 long curly mousy brown hair very pretty perfect body perfect. Extremely tight pussy, Gorgeous young girl inside and outside. This was one girl who refused kissing Sat but on Sun told me at the time I spoke to her she was just in a bad mood and stressed. Whatever plenty kissing today. She is just a doll absolutely adored doggie went on and on. I absolutely [B]LOVE[/B] this girl. She is just an angel.
Laura Romania 21 163 black hair lovely slim young body. Again extremely tight pussy. Absolutely sensational performer. Plenty kissing long slow deep throat just loved fucking in all positions. What a star - 100% satisfaction.
10 girls over 2 days and not a dud amongst them. I really wanted to fuck Deborah as I think she has best body there and I am 100% convinced she allowed kissing last year. Whatever, The Bulgarian I kicked out day 1 is the one who wears the bright pink top thing just above her titts with the big bolt ons and the big tattoo on back of left shoulder. Avoid. 10 girls who provided from [B]SPECTACULAR[/B] to [B]WAY ABOVE AVERAGE[/B] service over 2 days - 4 1 hr sessions and 6 30 min sessions. Where can you beat that?
I had such a ball. Unfortunately don' think I can get back til this weekend next year but am already counting the days.
Just one downer about the whole Oase experience. [B]THE PHUCKING FOOD[/B]. For god's sake can some of you local regulars get in management's ears and get something done about the food. Both Saturday and Sunday the cutting up of the tomatoes was just disgraceful. They were cut in such varying sizes, I like my tomatoes cut in nice even equal pieces. Can you guys PLEASE get this fixed.
Now I don't really like to compare clubs because different days different guys different girls - we all have differing wants, desires and expectations. [B]BUT IMHO[/B] Oase for quality of girls and quality of performance of girls was head and shoulders above Mainhatten - but of course YMMV.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1615084]I'd have to agree with HB here. At Oase, being a familiar face doesn't matter as much anymore-unless said familiar face is a big-spender. As long as Oase can attract busloads of East Asians, these girls don't see a need on pleasing the Stammgaste, simply because there is less economic dependence on the Stammgaste as compared to years past.[/QUOTE]I guess you mean that Oase always has many one-time visitors / tourists / newbies who spoil the working girls, and the majority of them happened to be from East Asia.
I am from East Asia, and I always insist on paying 50€ for kissing+BBBJ+coverd sex /30 minutes. I never pay over 50 on 1 session /1 girl when I visit a FKK club.
Therefore, I am pretty sure that I have nothing to do with all those East Asian mongers stereotypes (always overpay, always have accept up-sells, always cum and finish very quickly, etc).
In sum, to put it more precisely, the real big problem in FKK clubs nowadays are those one-time visitors / tourists / newbies who spoil those working girls, not mongers of certain ethnic background.
I also wonder why Oase can attract so many one-time visitors / tourists / newbies from Asia and other continents.
I mean, for people like me who know about Hessen big five and visit them all, I don't think Oase is more special than the other four.
I like Sharks, World, and Mainhattan more than Oase.
It's funny that many tourists from East Asia don't even know the existence of other FKK clubs in Hessen or Germany, and they have no idea where Frankfurt or Friedrichsdorf is, but they know there is a P4 P place in Germany called "O""A""S""E".
Did the Oase management put a lot of efforts on advertising and marketing in Asia and other continents? LOL.
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[QUOTE=BadBoyBilly;1615231][B]THE PHUCKING FOOD[/B]. For god's sake can some of you local regulars get in management's ears and get something done about the food. Both Saturday and Sunday the cutting up of the tomatoes was just disgraceful. They were cut in such varying sizes, I like my tomatoes cut in nice even equal pieces. Can you guys PLEASE get this fixed. [/QUOTE]Oh yes. Mauro serves crappy food, people complain (or not), he doesn't give a shit. He surely will instruct his staff to cut the tomatoes in nice even equal pieces. LOL.
HB.
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Umm. Er. Umm. That was a joke. Never ceases to amaze me that people complain about the food provided in your entrance fee. You are surrounded by dozens of naked willing hoares all desperate exchange a great blow job ans usually a fine phuck for 50 to 100 - and people think about food? I never think of my stomach when I am in such a situation rather only what hangs from it! Un-phucking-believable!