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[QUOTE=Shark16;1923999]I have no idea if Oase and Sharks should be your top choices. You are not telling us what you are looking for. My response was to a monger who asked for the biggest line-up.
My top choice this summer has been World (tied with Oase). But who cares. Go visit each club and see for yourself. Be explorative and have some fun. As you say, you have plenty of time. Don't take everything that is written on a forum so seriously.[/QUOTE]Now DFK is an add-on for all girls? Both Shark and Oase? I remembered the standard session included DFK during my last trip.
The girl I'm looking for curve girls who give good service. I don't mind give extra for CIM or Greek but for ZK? Really? BTW, which club is better for standard service, with less up sell for ZK?
Last time when I was in World, it was Easter, maybe that affect the LU?
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[QUOTE=RifleMan;1924179]Sorry guys for asking this stupid question, but I can only have one night in Frankfurt.
Which one should I go? Oase or Sharks? Or somethings else?
Looking for GFE, and that's all.
Cheers![/QUOTE]You can find the mythical "GFE" you seek at either Oase or Sharks. It doesn't matter which club you visit. What matters is your own ability to work the line-up that happens to be on offer the night you visit, and can you find the right girl for your special taste. Both clubs offer extensive line ups, with lots of options, the full gambit of possibilities: great GFE providers to complete rip-off / upsell artists. That's right: both Sharks and Oase have a huge variety girls, differing in background, experience and service-orientation, working on any given day/night. Your ability to find the session you want, whatever that is, depends only on your skill and luck to encounter the right girl and cultivate the proper chemistry to achieve your session goals. That's it.
Warning: August is NOT the ideal time to visit any club. The line-ups at all clubs will improve significantly in Septemeber, when both male guest and female worker holidays finish, and the Messe calender kicks into it's Autumn season.
Good times lie ahead, for sure.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924151]I don't think upselling depends too much on the time of the day you go.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct statement. The chance of encountering upselling in the the room depends less on time of day or which club, any club, you visit, and more on which girl you happen to select on the day, night of your visit to whatever club. Proper vetting and and an enhanced "radar" or "GFE instinct" employed "on the couch"/ pre-Zimmer can more often than not enable you to avoid "Up-sell girls" and zero in on the girls that will give you what you want and need. At least that is my experience.
In other words: On the rare occasion that I encounter upselling in the Zimmer these days, and I thank my lucky stars that I don't get it as often some of guys seem to judge from recent posts, I usually blame myself, not the club, for electing to go with a "bad apple". I mean, I usually believe it is my own fault in failing to choose and interview girls correctly, a temporary lack of judgment , an FKK double fault, if you will.
However: All have their opinions and stories to tell, no doubt.
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Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Palace.
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.
General rule: girls get bolder in the tourist clubs (that are generally closer to the city). I'd say Palace (Frankfurt), Paradise (Stuttgart), Dolce Vita (Dusseldorf) are the sharkiest three in their respective areas.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1923727]Heard this often, Superpower of the world but, still a repressive society when it comes to Sex. Sex is still a taboo word in America.[/QUOTE]Sex is a taboo nearly everywhere.
I don't think USA are the worst. By far. And from France I would say we are now equal, if not worse.
And don't think Germany is all sex friendly. The tendancy is clearly negative.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1924246]Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.[/QUOTE]Hmm when I compare same optic and same best service level I can't see any significant difference between these clubs.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1924246]Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Palace.
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.
General rule: girls get bolder in the tourist clubs (that are generally closer to the city). I'd say Palace (Frankfurt), Paradise (Stuttgart), Dolce Vita (Dusseldorf) are the sharkiest three in their respective areas.[/QUOTE]Never been to world, how are line up there comparison to Oase, are LU pretty? Many German girls? Or it is all Ro?
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1924270]Never been to world, how are line up there comparison to Oase, are LU pretty? Many German girls? Or it is all Ro?[/QUOTE]If you don't like Romanian girls, don t go to FKK. 90% Romanians in FRA, at World, Sharks, Mainhattan and I think same at Oase. You have some Germans as fat Pia and Kati, Hungarians at Sharks. Go to GT Bruggen if You only want Germans and if You are not dark skin. Even at Globe Zurich which is higher level than German FKK, most are Romanian, even at Aphrodisia in Zurich center, for 280 CHF, girls are Romanian.
FKK are Romanian villages and I m happy to see prettier and sweeter girls than most of Germans, there.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1924246]Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Palace.
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.
General rule: girls get bolder in the tourist clubs (that are generally closer to the city). I'd say Palace (Frankfurt), Paradise (Stuttgart), Dolce Vita (Dusseldorf) are the sharkiest three in their respective areas.[/QUOTE]Not a very regular, but no upsell for me at Mainhattan with Suzi. Cz, my jolie Sara, Sofia, only Jasmin tried and stayed sitting. Not more than at World or Sharks.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1924246]Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Palace.
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.
[/QUOTE]Looks about right to me. Oase always had more upsell girls than Sharks (at least since 2008 when I started attending Oase a bit more often) and there was a lot less at World. Still the odd girl asking for a Champangne or bubbly. LOL
For aggressive girls approaching it is a bit different and highly dependent on individual aggressive girls, even some aggressive girls experienced at World since my very first visit, but Palace and Mainhatten were where I got hassled by the highest number of girls in the lounge area. More difficult to relax in these circumstances. Sharks has the advantage of being so spacious. Some clubs have relax rooms, which can be handy. I used the relax room a lot at Palace, but even there, girls would come and bother me (a few years back).
The main method to avoid upsell, is to take regular girls, so that they know what you want already most likely.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1924415] (a few years back).[/QUOTE]As you say a few years back. It would be more useful to get actual Intel.
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Like people are saying here in terms of Upselling World is still the lowest. I wonder when compared to Sharks in Line Up how does World fair? How is the Line Up of Girls in World when compared to say Sharks or OASE?
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1924447]As you say a few years back. It would be more useful to get actual Intel.[/QUOTE]If "actual intel" would be more useful, why bother cluttering up this thread with non-useful criticisms? (admittedly, like I am now). If you don't want to be bothered reading Syz's posts, you can just add Syz to your ignore list (instead of criticizing the content of his contributions).
I normally wouldn't bother cluttering up the Oase thread with this sort of post, but it just struck me as really odd that someone would criticize Syz in this way when he does post plenty of useful "actual intel," namely his attendance lists which many find immensely useful (among other useful tidbits from time to time).
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924456]Like people are saying here in terms of Upselling World is still the lowest. I wonder when compared to Sharks in Line Up how does World fair? How is the Line Up of Girls in World when compared to say Sharks or OASE?[/QUOTE]But how are the LU there at world? Young and beautiful or silicone with full of tattoo and aged?
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First of all, it is correct that Syz's post is no Intel. He's talking about a visit years ago which is pointless.
For some reason Craiova is fixated on Manhattan like Ortos is fixated on Oase. Both get very defensive about opinions against their clubs, which is obvious. When I look for perspective on those clubs, they would be at the bottom of the list to be trustable.
Do I think service level and upselling level at Oases is similar to years ago? No. Level of upselling has gotten much higher than what it used to be. Pretty much closer to on part with Palace now.
Also, I disagree with Syz opinion about Manhattan 3 years ago. It was a better club back then. Besides LU lists, Syz opinions aren't worth a dime. There are members I take more serious when it comes to opinions. People that has been to more clubs and up to date has more perspective than those only experiences 1 or 2.