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Oase was VERY slow today. Maybe 30 girls and 20 guys til 9 pm, then a few more guys came in. Lineup wasn't half bad given the low quantity. Quite a few girls who said they only started yesterday or last week. One Russian girl said this is shit so she's leaving at the end of the week.
No Angie Diaz, no Chayenne, no hungarian Elizabeth. I have forgotten most of the names just bombarded with too many there. Alexia with glasses, suzanna with the porn star look, Cora, German Xenia, Czech Elizabeth there. I still think Daniella has the prettiest face.
I went with Roxanna. Felt like the first 5 minutes were used up to negotiate which combo of extras and package I wanted. I opted for the walk out the door package which shocked her. Hate that shit. I ended up staying and she turned out to be decent when if comes to ficken. Pretty tight. No DFK without the package combo. Miserably failed the after sales test.
I will not be returning to Oase soon unless I have an urge to try Daniella or if Hungarian Elizabeth returns. After an amazing 2 weeks with some wonderful non upsell NRW girls, I don't need this shit. Not like Oase has better lineups than many clubs.
I got home at 10 pm. That tells you sdomething since I've been staying at Mondial and LR til 3-5 am nightly.
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Monday-Wednesday is quite slow at Oase. I know at least a third of the girls I know at Oase allays, or at least usually takes Tuesdays off work.
Lots of girls in many clubs discussing new hunting grounds though. The amount of clubs in Germany today is getting a bit high. Perhaps the new regulations are needed in that regard as one of the points are that the states have to hand out special permits to the clubs. I could see that reducing the amount of clubs in the most saturated states. Then perhaps those clubs that are left will have happier girls with more customers even on weekdays. Not needing to upsell as much. Too bad with the negatives of that new proposal however.
Nrw has what, 30 FKK clubs? 12 in Hessen. You can at least remove 1/3 of those... then more girls per club, more customers etc. The less attractive ones doesn't have much to do at FKKs anyway, but the good ones will be more satisfied. It will still be enough competition between the clubs to make them hold up service levels.
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If there are too many clubs and there is not enough business, eventually they will shut down on their own. Why should the government care about the economics of various clubs? Government should just implement the law that was already passed. If a club qualifies for a permit legitimately, it should keep it unless it flouts the law. The last thing you want is government butting its head into club finances and trying to change it one way or other - except to make sure that clubs follow the law and pay their taxes.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1886478]Only 4 girls I have done before that would consider to do again, and of those, 2 (Carla and Elizabeth) were too booked up.
The top girls seem very busy, probably indicating that the level of general competition from the rest is getting weaker. Yet many girls are sitting around bored. Girls need to be either pretty or perform brilliantly or a combination, to get decent levels of customers early in the evening. [/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your favorite Carla being all booked up. There ought to be rule against people booking the same girl all night dammit! With regards to brunette Carla, as it turns out, I understand that she was fully booked on Friday night, Saturday night, and all Sunday night (on the recent weekend you attended). Not only that, I also learned that she had a pre-booking for part of Monday night as well, although I was not there Monday night to personally visually verify this. It seems that her schedule can sometimes fill up fast with pre-bookings. So, she must be doing something right. One of these days, I will have to get around to trying her out -- if I can catch her on a day when she isn't fully booked that is!
I agree with your assessment of the line-up. My recent visit confirms that the line-up doesn't compare at all to Fall of last year. There is still fun to be had and I still enjoy myself, but I am no longer overwhelmed by the numerous options I was accustomed to last year. Now, at any given moment, my top acceptable options are limited to less than a handful of girls. If the line-up further deteriorates, I will have to consider switching clubs. I hope some more girls return from holiday soon or they bring in a lot of new girls.
On the subject of the recent reports of rampant upselling, again, my personal experience does not bear this out. For whatever reason, I experienced zero upselling during my recent visit. Granted, I didn't go with a huge number of girls, but none of the new girls I tried out ever did anything other than try to give me good service. Some kissed for nothing extra and some refused to kiss, but none of them offered to kiss for extra. Then again, as I've mentioned before, I'm not a good baseline to compare against because (1) I usually take long rooms (although I never agree to a set period of time upfront) and (2) many of the girls there already know me or know of me from their friends.
One of my girls even admitted to instructing other girls as to what I like and don't like in the room so that the other girls would know how to behave with me. That's really great service, teaching other girls what I like in the room. Makes less "training" work for me in the room!
On the subject of "managers," I finally had a girl openly admit to me to having a fish. She even showed me pictures of her fish. Turns out, her fish is a cute little dog. She says that her cute little doggie makes her go to work to buy him food and lots of little doggie toys. My heart goes out to this poor girl who is being forced into this work to provide for her little doggie! She showed me lots of photos and even some videos of her little doggie, and I have to admit that it would be hard not to fall in love with that crazy little doggie. So, I can now say that I have personally witnessed this "loverboy" scam in action.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1887774]Sorry to hear about your favorite Carla being all booked up. There ought to be rule against people booking the same girl all night dammit! With regards to brunette Carla, as it turns out, I understand that she was fully booked on Friday night, Saturday night, and all Sunday night (on the recent weekend you attended). Not only that, I also learned that she had a pre-booking for part of Monday night as well, although I was not there Monday night to personally visually verify this. It seems that her schedule can sometimes fill up fast with pre-bookings. So, she must be doing something right. One of these days, I will have to get around to trying her out -- if I can catch her on a day when she isn't fully booked that is!
I agree with your assessment of the line-up. My recent visit confirms that the line-up doesn't compare at all to Fall of last year. There is still fun to be had and I still enjoy myself, but I am no longer overwhelmed by the numerous options I was accustomed to last year. Now, at any given moment, my top acceptable options are limited to less than a handful of girls. If the line-up further deteriorates, I will have to consider switching clubs. I hope some more girls return from holiday soon or they bring in a lot of new girls.
On the subject of the recent reports of rampant upselling, again, my personal experience does not bear this out. For whatever reason, I experienced zero upselling during my recent visit. Granted, I didn't go with a huge number of girls, but none of the new girls I tried out ever did anything other than try to give me good service. Some kissed for nothing extra and some refused to kiss, but none of them offered to kiss for extra. Then again, as I've mentioned before, I'm not a good baseline to compare against because (1) I usually take long rooms (although I never agree to a set period of time upfront) and (2) many of the girls there already know me or know of me from their friends.
One of my girls even admitted to instructing other girls as to what I like and don't like in the room so that the other girls would know how to behave with me. That's really great service, teaching other girls what I like in the room. Makes less "training" work for me in the room!
On the subject of "managers," I finally had a girl openly admit to me to having a fish. She even showed me pictures of her fish. Turns out, her fish is a cute little dog. She says that her cute little doggie makes her go to work to buy him food and lots of little doggie toys. My heart goes out to this poor girl who is being forced into this work to provide for her little doggie! She showed me lots of photos and even some videos of her little doggie, and I have to admit that it would be hard not to fall in love with that crazy little doggie. So, I can now say that I have personally witnessed this "loverboy" scam in action.[/QUOTE]Someone wrote on the forum a long while back, that they were very surprised I had not tried the brunette Carla. Indeed they were right to be surprised. I find her body to be hot, face very cute, good GFE session, and having good skills. So one of few girls that would score well in all 4 categories. Quite an amusing girl too. All natural. No weakness comes to mind other than wasting time in the lounge smoking. Maybe next visit she will be more available
So it is clear that many FKK girls have a man. How many are good men and not a "business manager", I don't know.
All of us have probably seen a girl or two being dropped of at the club by their men in fancy car. If girls are Romanian and guys are Romanian or Albanian, one wonders what sort of work they do in Germany.
In the past new a girl with Hell's Angels BF too. He used her as a housemaid more than anything else according to her. Eventually she ran away.
We hardly know where our fuck money goes to.
Upselling has been going on for many years. I have not noticed the big increase that others report. It's not unusual to find it with new girls tried or with certain girls stuck on it. Beatrice was the heaviest upseller I knew at Oase that I was repeating, but she moved to Sharks. All my remaining regular girls realise they should not use it.
I find the awkward question a good percentage of girls ask first time, is how long the session will be. I cannot promise an hour of course till I see how compatible we are. Some girls are disasters with the stiff legs syndrome. Some are non kissers. Some give painful BBBJ. All I can say is I may extend to an hour or sometimes even more. There are good girls like Ina who never ask these questions. Regulars also do not ask, generally.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1887801]
So it is clear that many FKK girls have a man. How many are good men and not a "business manager", I don't know.
[/QUOTE]Just to be clear, my short paragraph about the girl's doggie was just a joke. She actually has a little furry doggie and she jokes that the doggie is her fish and that she has to work to buy her dog toys and dog food. I wasn't attempting to use "dog" as a euphemism for something else, but rather, I meant a real, actual canine. Sorry if my poor attempt at humor wasn't clear.
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Contrary to most people's views, I thought Oase actually improved during my visit in March, although my prior visit was almost a year before then. I thought the girls looked better. Better shapes, better faces, more doable girls, as I was quite disappointed in March 2015 on those metrics. I am also in the minority in terms of not wanting DFK and DATY, so typically service is not a huge problem for me, but obviously I like girls who are more friendly, smiling etc. Sharkiness for me comes when girls start badgering for extras once inside the room and during the middle of the session which ruins the entire mood, or have a sour puss attitude, or claim the time is up after 15 min (I wear a watch and check the time exactly at the beginning of each session) etc. I did not feel that these were major problems with 3 of the 4 girls I tried when I was at Oase in March, with one exception. Anyway, my 2 c.
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Oase and World were the 2 first FRA clubs in 2014 with excellent casting on summer for beauties. Sharks couldn't compete at this time. If problems at World because of bad management and hells, make many girls left, Oase girls just get business they deserve due to services quality they provide. Less clubs around FRA than 2 years ago, no more Royal nor 35, no more clubs 100 kms around, but when Sharks improved with more girls now, World and Oase fell, so Oase girls should keep on trying to fuck clients, to make clients move to Sharks. I think Mainhattan stayed about the same, quite good level for services for my experiences with Sara, Suzi or Sofia. Except Ina, Tatiana, Maria platinum gone, Elisabet. Cz, quite average skill for Oase girls, not enough woman sensuality for my expectations, teeny sexual behavior don t make me dream, even Roxana or Sugenella can also be good when they are in good mood and want to do the job. Oase is just now, from their girls behavior since end of 2014, except few exceptions. I remember when they asked for 100 for 30 mn on 31 December 2014, no thanks for me.
Also bad foods for diner and average drinks, entry is the most expensive, Sharks garden is now better for sex with many chalets. Only 2 holes worth, compare to other clubs level, like Sharks, LR, Aca, Mainhattan. I even rate small Atlanta higher.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1887288]Usually in FRA, CIM is 50 and anal is 100 . Largest casting is Sharks.[/QUOTE]Thanks,
So basically Shark is the club I should go to?
Last time I was in Oase the LU was about 60-80 girls.
Today it looks like it is less than that.
How mush in Shark and other clubs?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1887386]Ex Andrea with clear blue eyes and piercing above lips was at Mainhattan a few weeks ago. Blond Cristina with tattoo on back of shoulder, was also for IAA.[/QUOTE]This sounded just like the girl I was thinking of so I did a little digging. I remember Syz said he was there that same day and he had his day list for who was at the club that day last June. This was copied and pasted from his list and it seems like a match to me.
* Andrea (Rom ex. MH), slim blonde (with black streaks), strip of jeans material, lower lip piercing, be- cups, tat above left ankle.
So for anyone else who might have cared this must be the girl. Thanks for the help on that. No one seemed to comment on the other girl Aura I listed, does anyone know where she works now? Thanks again.
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[QUOTE=SevenIron;1888095]This sounded just like the girl I was thinking of so I did a little digging. I remember Syz said he was there that same day and he had his day list for who was at the club that day last June. This was copied and pasted from his list and it seems like a match to me.
* Andrea (Rom ex. MH), slim blonde (with black streaks), strip of jeans material, lower lip piercing, be- cups, tat above left ankle.
So for anyone else who might have cared this must be the girl. Thanks for the help on that. No one seemed to comment on the other girl Aura I listed, does anyone know where she works now? Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I confirm ex Andrea with beautiful clear blue eyes, is now Alexandra at Mainhattan. You can call Mainhattan about blond Romanian Alexandra, they answer, she works in night team.
I had pretty smiling blond Aura in the garden on June 2015, but never saw her in any other club.
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Ironically its in my posts you will find the most info regarding this Andrea, but you weren't looking at me for information. So then you won't find it either. LOL.
Do notice the Andrea Syz and me writes about have brown eyes.
Siri mentions a blue eyed Andrea.
But I must admit the piercing info is strange, as the Andrea I know sometimes have a piercing there too. But normally its off.
However, your 'killer ass' comment made me knock off the Andrea I know from the potential list when I read it. Or you have a strange sense of 'killer'. Sure her ass is cute and petite, but 'killer'? What is that?
JamesBrok: the Oase LU is just as large as ever... same numbers... different girls,
Different tastes. Some like the new lu more (me and Jnpr30 etc) some like it less (Sri, Syz etc), personal tastes.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1888118]Ironically its in my posts you will find the most info regarding this Andrea, but you werent looking at me for information. So then you won't find it either. LOL.
Do notice the Andrea Syz and me writes about have brown eyes.
Siri mentions a blue eyed Andrea...
But I must admit the piercing info is strange, as the Andrea I know sometimes have a peircing there too. But normally its off...
However, your 'killer ass' comment made me knock off the Andrea I know from the potential list when I read it. Or you have a strange sense of 'killer'. Sure her ass is cute and petite, but 'killer'? What is that?
JamesBrok: the Oase LU is just as large as ever... same numbers... different girls,
Different tases. Some like the new lu more (me and jnpr30 etc) some like it less (siri, syz etc)... personal tastes...[/QUOTE]So many pretty girls of the psst may be gone or temporsrily missing. Only 2 or 3 new ones up to that standard.
It always tough when half my usual girls are mossing and most of the rest too busy or busy just when want a session. Good options may have diminished.
No Christina, no Sabina, no laura / livia, no Hun Elizabeth, no Beatrice, Carla and Elizabeth Czech too busy, no Crina, no Ina, no Tatiana, no Claudia / Aida, no Isabella, etc. Forced to try something new maybe. Sorry for focusing on the missing this time. Could be better soon quite easily. Clubs fluctuate in line up a lot. Sharks even more turn over of newer girls.
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Oase LU hasn't been good for me since end of 2014. The last two top optiks for me were: Diana / Simona (ex World). Then there was another girl who was Laura / Livia's friend. I'd have to research my old reports to find her name, but she only worked a few months around summer of 2014. Both were gone by 2015.
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Laura and Elizabeth are just on a vacation though. Can't review a club on a day to day basis when some people here book trips a month in advance.
Then again, this forum should perhaps just be seen as a day to day updated board. But as far as reporting goes, it lags way too much for that.