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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1938806]The 100 euro for a short time session (e. G. Half hour and CIM) or one hour minimum booking is akin to the theme at Sharks where some girls ask (and there are quite a few girls who do that now) who say no kissing or licking the pussy unless it is an one hour room booking by the customer.
So what I am saying is do not baulk at the offer of 100 euro for half hour as this is where some girls are looking to specialize in so that they can maximize their income.[/QUOTE]Sorry, the point I was trying to make was that the original post said "1,100 euro per 30 minutes" rather than "1) 100 euro per 30 minutes" which I think was leading to some confusion. At least for me.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1938804]An American customer at Palace asked how much was it for a BBBJ and was quoted 500 euro which he did indeed pay. Afterwards he found out that the BBBJ should have been included in a standard 50 euro session. So these things happen.[/QUOTE]As the saying goes, "A fool and his money are easily parted!
Don't mean to be callous, but what else can we say.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1938818]Sorry, the point I was trying to make was that the original post said "1,100 euro per 30 minutes" rather than "1) 100 euro per 30 minutes" which I think was leading to some confusion. At least for me.[/QUOTE]What you say makes sense. Only Danny227 can confirm for us 100 percent.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1938814]I had this at Oase, nowadays at most FKK that I have been to you really have to negotiate everything before you even go for one hour in room.[/QUOTE]I hear you Ho.
My comment on needing to negotiate everytbing with a girl prior to the room defeats one if the key concepts of FKKs which is standardisation of pricing and the service level. If one girl charges for kissing and another girl does not then if this checking has to be done for all sessions being booked then FKK format loses some of its allure.
It ends up being more like an escort where you need to check the services of the girls and even then you are never 100 percent they provide since as always YMMV or the girl refuses to do it citing some lame excuse like my pussy is hurting but I accepted your booking anyway since I can suck cock.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1938579]I never knew that the girls have to check in the time at Samya, that's really a great idea. I think they can do that in Oase when you pick up the keys. I was in Oase last week and got to talking with a group of tourists from the US. When they asked the girls for prices, the girls quoted them in two ways, 1,100 per 30 minutes and, 2,200 per session without discussing time.
I have to mention the girl at the front desk at Oase, I heard going out of her way to explain the rules regarding correct pricing, and if they feel that the girls are unfair with pricing they have the right to come to reception and discuss before paying to discuss things. Maybe someone at Oase management is reading this forum too.[/QUOTE]At Samya, GT, LR, PHG, girls write at what time they take key.
Are guys so stupid to be fucked like this for rates, by girls. On this Friday, when I returned to PHG after 3 years, when I paid entry, I also asked for girls rates, even not speaking German and foreigner. I never speak about money with girls, I give them club rate, they often ask when I will come back, like Madeleine after our first chalet on this Sunday, she seemed to want to be so wet again, after asking if I wanted to stay longer, but unfortunately no ATM at GT, I would have liked to drink her juice and get her again for one more round.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1938897]I hear you Ho.
My comment on needing to negotiate everytbing with a girl prior to the room defeats one if the key concepts of FKKs which is standardisation of pricing and the service level. If one girl charges for kissing and another girl does not then if this checking has to be done for all sessions being booked then FKK format loses some of its allure.
It ends up being more like an escort where you need to check the services of the girls and even then you are never 100 percent they provide since as always YMMV or the girl refuses to do it citing some lame excuse like my pussy is hurting but I accepted your booking anyway since I can suck cock.[/QUOTE]I had kissing was OK, but no DATY. I mean this was first time I experienced this and it was only in Hessen club. Palace and Oase, by just two girls only. Usually it is other way round, DATY OK and not kissing.
I kinda found Sharks providing good service, though my experience in sharks are very limited.
Over all, FKK is not how it used to be. One really have to negotiate each moves you want to do prior to the room or be prepared to be negatively surprised LOL I kissed her on lip then I moved to pussy then she was like No no LOL.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1935640]It is already the norm for girls to try to get a little bit extra by being creative on timekeeping: they very often tell me the small things they do with what they consider not nice customers. These same girls will however give a little extra time for customers they like so on balance they are keeping to the rules.[/QUOTE]Optimist, if I may ask, what is your reaction when your favored girls tell you that they will manipulate the time charged for some customers and not for others? Is it a feeling of smugness that she has not done this to you or is there a hint of revulsion at the collusive and caustic behavior that she has instigated on her own whim as she judges a person before her?
You do not need to answer this if you do not feel so. I was just interested. Indeed I have said this is wrong to some girls but then I know at times I have just sat in mute silence nodding and wondering where this will all lead to.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1938908]At Samya, GT, LR, PHG, girls write at what time they take key.[/QUOTE]I didn'the know at LR or GT do this. It's obvious at Aca, Magnum, Samya, Mondial, and YY. So, there are proof if there are any disputes.
At YY, every room I've been had clocks easily visible from the bed. So far, haven'the ran into time problems there. NRW, I get shorted rarely. F39 awhile back had girls start a clock in the room.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1938908]. I never speak about money with girls, I give them club rate, .[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong but back in the days when you were all about Golden Time, Rachel and german girls you were very happy to pay her (and some others) 100 €/ hour when the club rate was 75 €/ h.
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Since when did room time begin when the girl takes the key? It's always been from the time they close the door and finish their bathroom / smoke break.
Pretty useless for Mondial to write the time a key was taken. Anyone who knows this club can tell you it can take a good 5 minutes from the front desk, through a packed club, down through the Wellness area, upa couple flights of stairs, then out to the balcony.
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What I do is ask how much time is left, and check the time to see if she is in sync. Of course sometimes there are girls that didn't note the time and has no idea when we came in. I've had times both of us were clueless when we came in. LOL.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1939287]I didn'the know at LR or GT do this. It's obvious at Aca, Magnum, Samya, Mondial, and YY. So, there are proof if there are any disputes.[/QUOTE]Also at Artemis they do this upstairs to move it closer to the rooms. And at Oceans the timekeeping book lies all open at the reception for anyone to look at. Not sure if they like it or not when I have peaked in it a few times though.
The sync is allways off by about 3 minutes I noticed too. Because they start it at the reception, or at the book... and not when you enter the room...
Things to keep in mind. So smoke, toilet or shower breaks before the session starts after she has written in the books are basically time scams... sounds like you have been time scammed BB... I have too before I started paying attention.
I do have two girls who let me overstay the time because they like me as well. Or so they say. That goes a long way towards me tipping them. And it says alot...
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1939294]Since when did room time begin when the girl takes the key? It's always been from the time they close the door and finish their bathroom / smoke break.[/QUOTE]Certainly the clock should start when the session kicks off. The point is, time is written as proof instead of he said she said.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1938908]Are guys so stupid to be fucked like this for rates, by girls. On this Friday, when I returned to PHG after 3 years, when I paid entry, I also asked for girls rates, even not speaking German and foreigner.[/QUOTE]There were mention of SS (in NL) telling punters it's up to the girl what rate and similarly people have mentioned for Artemis. I asked the front desk at YY (another NL club) the rate, they straight up told me 50 per half. Extras they said one must discuss with the girl. So, how club operate varies. Even how the smoking law operates in De is a question as club varies even in a region of De such as NRW.
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A long time ago before my first trip (2011? Breadman advised me to wear a white faced dial watch. I make a subtle point of looking at my watch when I remove it at the start sp that the girl can see what I did. It lets them know not to skim the time allotment.
Once in awhile, I've had a girl get a little upset about that, but it's mainly because I foiled their plan and at that point, I will not extend the session beyond 30 minutes die to attitude. I never make a big deal about it however and many times I have extended to sm hour or more if she is enjoyable.
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At YY, every room I've been had clocks easily visible from the bed. So far, haven'the ran into time problems there. NRW, I get shorted rarely. F39 awhile back had girls start a clock in the room.[/QUOTE]