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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1463434]Having been to Oase off an on for several years, approx. 50+ visits (that's a lot of money LOL), it seems to me that from about Oct 2012 through to March 2013, the line-up standard was well down. Do others see likewise or could it have just been the absence of a few really great girls no longer at Oase?[/QUOTE]Hey Syzy,
I don't see it that way and would like to give a different perspective:
You being a weekly visitor to the clubs, it surprises me that you are not visiting more clubs - in particular when you are getting bored with a club. You have FIVE great clubs in your Frankfurt neighbourhood and the NRW just a couple of hours drive away being very easy to reach on a weekend trip from Frankfurt. My advice to you is simply to broaden your horizons when getting bored. Then you can appreciate the qualities in each club better.
This should be particular important to you as you have a very narrow taste in women and are easily bored. Thus you must see more clubs and more women to find the right girls and to keep the freshness and excitement. Or to the contrary, stay away from the scene for a while and do something else with your life in order to lose boredom and recreate the excitement. Hey, this hobby is a drug ...
I am different to you in many ways:
- Firstly, I am a monthly visitor at best (usually 3- 8 weeks between each visit). The Oase-line up is so big and IMHO able to renew itself enough making it impossible for me to keep up with all the new talent. A dream club to return to (when not visiting every week).
- Secondly, I have a broader taste in women than you. This means that if Oase has a 100 girls in the line-up one day, about 30 of them would be on my repeat or todo-list. I could not care less if girls like Marie, Lavinia, and Amalia have left / would leave, as it just means that I will have more time to explore the 27 prospects left. Girls that I find just as exciting as those mentioned (who I still think are somewhat hyped).
- Thirdly, I believe that giving priority to the repeatlist enhances the sexual experiences. This is the main reason for me not visiting so many clubs. Not always, but in many cases the 2nd and 3rd time with a girl (the right girl) are more pleasureable. Plenty of girls on my repeatlist are going in the right direction right now. One Oase girl I have dated for 6- 7 years and still feels as fresh, believe it or not (la bandida de Venezuela ;) ). Others you need to replace after a while.
- Finally, I do visit the Frankfurt Five at least once annualy to see if I am missing out on anything. Oase remains my #1, but World and Sharks are good alternatives when I want that. But no doubt even I would have visited the NRW clubs more if I was a weekly visitor.
To sum up: All clubs have its ups and downs, but the Oase line-up is so big and well kept that there is always something exciting even on bad days. In your case, I don't think any club is "big enough" and you should simply just try out more clubs. If a club does not meet your standards, then move on.
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[QUOTE=Shark16; 1463458]Hey Syzy,
I don't see it that way and would like to give a different perspective:
You being a weekly visitor to the clubs, it surprises me that you are not visiting more clubs . In particular when you are getting bored with a club. You have FIVE great clubs in your Frankfurt neighbourhood and the NRW just a couple of hours drive away being very easy to reach on a weekend trip from Frankfurt. My advice to you is simply to broaden your horizons when getting bored. Then you can appreciate the qualities in each club better.
This should be particular important to you as you have a very narrow taste in women and are easily bored. Thus you must see more clubs and more women to find the right girls and to keep the freshness and excitement. Or to the contrary, stay away from the scene for a while and do something else with your life in order to lose boredom and recreate the excitement. Hey, this hobby is a drug.
To sum up: All clubs have its ups and downs, but the Oase line-up is so big and well kept that there is always something exciting even on bad days. In your case, I don't think any club is "big enough" and you should simply just try out more clubs. If a club does not meet your standards, then move on.[/QUOTE]For sure I am a sex addict and would not be able to limit myself to once per month. Cutting down number of girls per visit is more viable and also could try to finish sessions quicker. I do intend to try some other clubs rather than limiting to 2, but that is not my main point. Palace is ruled out for now. I have been a couple of times, but not that enthused by the line-up. Not many all natural pretty gazelles that give the right vibe and attitude.
I am not easily bored at all by great girls, but only by a weak overall selection. I think you exaggerate my boredom somewhat, but not my fussiness about face and figure and at least fun service. At some point I have thought the Oase line-up was down and so switched to World for a while, and at that time, World was indeed better and more interesting choices available. I had more girls on the repeat list. When I came back to Oase its line-up seemed greatly improved and World had dropped off badly on one particular visit (in fact that was my last visit to World and before that I was sort of alternating).
So I think you have avoided the main thrust of my question which is about seasonal variation and was the line-up truly poorer in the winter period for GFE gazelle types than the summer and is it likely to be poorer this coming winter, or is the change far more random.
I don't think I need to keep using a large number of different clubs while the existing have very good girl selections. While World has a few very good girls, there is probably only one that I really miss badly. Oase, on the other hand has several girls that I more than keen to do again as soon as I get back. So nothing about Oase is boring me right now unless all the favourites go missing. I am very eager to try Sylvia (a super girl) again, also Roxy (Evita) with the stunning ass again, then there are the favourites: Lavinia, Amalia, Maria, Elizabeth, and some very good backups. Even then there are a few untried on the "to do" list, and a few worth trying again. Sometimes the 2nd time is better.
I don't need to go to another club just to accumulate lots of different girls, only the most incredible girls are going to keep dragging me there, or if the top girl selection can really beat Oase at the time. I am willing to try, and will do, but remain a bit sceptical. Probably Sharks first!
The disadvantage of new clubs are obvious. When first arrive, all girls are new and a gamble. Girls tend to hassle the new customers more (my face is not known). Then there is the problem that the more clubs you visit, the more money you use. Having just one main club to use helps restrict the total frequency of visits.
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[QUOTE=Shark16; 1463458]Hey Syzy,
- Finally, I do visit the Frankfurt Five at least once annualy to see if I am missing out on anything. Oase remains my #1, but World and Sharks are good alternatives when I want that. But no doubt even I would have visited the NRW clubs more if I was a weekly visitor.
To sum up: All clubs have its ups and downs, but the Oase line-up is so big and well kept that there is always something exciting even on bad days. In your case, I don't think any club is "big enough" and you should simply just try out more clubs. If a club does not meet your standards, then move on.[/QUOTE]Just curious, as someone who seems to know the scene pretty well, is Mainhatten in your top five?
Someone on the forums recently posted an opinion (I think I read it in the LOD section) that Mainhatten was the best in terms of the friendliness, non-sharkiness of the girls. He implied that they were the most upfront about everything and didn't try to upsell or con. Keep in mind, he did confess that the girls there were not at the tops in terms of looks, but still pretty good.
Just curious, as I was considering a visit to Frankfurt.
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[QUOTE=Manny51; 1463554]Just curious, as someone who seems to know the scene pretty well, is Mainhatten in your top five?
Someone on the forums recently posted an opinion (I think I read it in the LOD section) that Mainhatten was the best in terms of the friendliness, non-sharkiness of the girls. He implied that they were the most upfront about everything and didn't try to upsell or con. Keep in mind, he did confess that the girls there were not at the tops in terms of looks, but still pretty good.
Just curious, as I was considering a visit to Frankfurt.[/QUOTE]Most girls will ask what you want, some will try to get extra's to boost their final payment (cim, an hour booking etc). Mainhattan's no different. You'll get approached like any other club, live with it since its the name of the game. As to getting conned, Mainhattan has their money lockers right in front of reception. This might keep the overcharging to a minimum, the girl won't raise her voice demanding extra knowing management is right over her shoulder. As to the girls looks, its mixed just like any other club. Where Oase might have 80 girls working, Mainhattan might have just over 30.
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A quick visit to Oase
Hello fellows punters,
My turn to put in a report after benefiting from all the posts and excellent pieces of advice along time. Here are a few things about Oase, which I visited for the first time today.
I have been at Palace, T188, Pauchaclub Dorsten, Pussyclub Heidelberg etc. In the past, always putting off Oase. Until now. Because of the distance. Some posts helped me decide otherwise this one time.
Well, Oase is best of all, at least to my taste. Service from the club and from the girls is top, and the place is nicest (pity it was raining today, as the outdoors are fantastic). I would put Palace a short second behind it only.
One point I am trying to make is that a good part of the pleasure is also the visual between the sessions: looking at all these beautiful, naked girls. At Oase, the selection is particularly strict, all girls are 8-10 with some real stunners. There were about 15-20 of them. I wish I could have done then all!
Entrance is still 70 euros, girls are 50 for 1/2 hour.
I had very good service from Lucia (Italian) then I had a babe called Vanessa.
I finally called it off after spending all the time in between in the Jacuzzi looking at the girls around. I was in heavens for 3 hours!
There was no real lunch, warm food is only served in the evenings, but they had really good croissants and expresso, hard-boiled eggs, paté, bread, cakes etc. They also serve alcohol for a price.
The other thing that will be of interest to new members: contrary to some posts I have read, I found it is not longer nor more difficult to go to Oase rather than to Palace. From Frankfurt HB, it is 10 stations non-stop on S5, I. E. A mere 30 minutes, to Friedrischdorf, then a short 10min / 10euros taxi ride. Today, even though it was a Sunday, with less trains, I had no problems finding my way quickly, and there were like one train every 1/2 hour to come back. There are plenty of taxis a the station and at the club, if not they come under 10 minutes. I left F. Hb. At 9:24, was at Friedrischdorf at 9:50, at the club 10 minutes later for the opening. Then left for the airport at around 13:15, catching the 14:08 train to F. Hb.
Another interesting thing I discovered today: at the ticket machine in the train stations, you can consult the timetable for your trip and print the parts you want! So there is no risk of being mistaken about train frequency.
In brief, Oase was a fabulous experience for me (the last very good one was years ago, at the Pussyclub in Heidleberg, when it was still a real 'all you can fuck' partytreff. BTW, are they still operating?).
Next time in the area, Oase is where I am going back straight away anyway!
O
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[QUOTE=Manny51; 1463554]Just curious, as someone who seems to know the scene pretty well, is Mainhatten in your top five?
Someone on the forums recently posted an opinion (I think I read it in the LOD section) that Mainhatten was the best in terms of the friendliness, non-sharkiness of the girls. He implied that they were the most upfront about everything and didn't try to upsell or con. Keep in mind, he did confess that the girls there were not at the tops in terms of looks, but still pretty good.[/QUOTE]General consensus for the big 5 in FRA would be Oase, Palace, World, Sharks, and Mainhattan, likely in that order. World to me always stood out as a non-sharky club which is why it used to be my favorite club when I was a FRA regular.
There is nothing wrong looks wise with the top few girls at Mainhattan. Problem is there just weren't enough girls there to motivate me to return over a club like Oase where there is always a ton of girls at night.
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No real general consensus I'd think. Palace is shark invested and a nogo area for many punters; on other moments time of the week / year / Messe calendar plays a big role. I personally have gotten tired of Oase (and the diminishing service). World is nice on Wednesday / Friday / Saturday. Sharks can usually compete with both. Mainhattan follows, because of the smaller size / line up, and sometimes atmosphere (Saturday a week ago fi). I do have a few girl I like a lot there, so there's that. If you're going in the weekend Oase, World and Sharks will all provide a good day out I'd expect.
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[QUOTE=Free Dude;1463583]World is nice on Wednesday / Friday / Saturday. Sharks can usually compete with both.[/QUOTE]Would World or Sharks have more girls on a Wednesday night?
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[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1463591]Would World or Sharks have more girls on a Wednesday night?[/QUOTE]Depends, could be so, could be so. I used to go to Palace twice a week. Now I go twice a year.
Big 5 in Hessen (currently for me in that order) : World / Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace.
HB
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1463592]Big 5 in Hessen (currently for me in that order) : World / Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan, Palace.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with your ranking HB. I'm sure mine will be the same as yours. My order was just my perception of what appears to be popular on ISG.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1463545]So I think you have avoided the main thrust of my question which is about seasonal variation and was the line-up truly poorer in the winter period for GFE gazelle types than the summer and is it likely to be poorer this coming winter, or is the change far more random.[/QUOTE]IME the Oase line-up is the most consistant one among the Frankfurt Five. I think there are a number of reasons for that:
- Still has a reasonably good reputation among the German regulars (the largest line-up / decent (not perfect) service standards / most of the time (not always) seems to be able to renew the line-up keeping it fresh and interesting).
- Close enough to Frankfurt Messe to benefit from the Messe crowd in winter season.
- A beautiful garden to attract a decent crowd of guys and girls in the summer season.
I did not experience that much of a difference last winter (as you claim) , and I really can't predict this coming winter. Looking back at my 8 years visiting Oase I can wholeheartedly say every season in all these years have been satisfactory to me.
There are much more variation between the days of the week IME; Mondays being the weakest (40- 60 girls) and Friday / Saturday the strongest (70- 110). Most of my visits are weekend visits though. Maybe your winter visits were midweek? Have to add that I have often enjoyed midweek visits just as much as the weekends as the F / M ratios often are better.
There is not much time of the year I try to avoid Oase. Trying to sum up my negative experiences:
- Late night during the biggest fairs. It's way too crowded after 10 pm. Alternative: Rent a car and go to World.
- Sunday / Monday daytime line up in holiday season. Some risk of poor line-up. Alternative: None (or do something else). The other clubs are just as bad or probably worse.
- Early January after New Year's celebration and before the next exhibition and before our Romanian friends are coming back: Poor line-up. And even worse: No men, leaving the girls lonely, moody and frustrated: Alternative: Stay home. None of the other clubs are any better (as far as I have experienced. Some say World at times renew their line-up every 1st Jan, but cannot verify this from own experiences).
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Oase might be on the way to become another tourist joint. The club is losing lots of regulars. Not as sharks as Palace, but far less regulars than Sharks or World.
HB
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When I was at Oase a few weeks ago I met quite a few local regulars and it seemed like most of them felt it was about a tie between Oase, Palace and World. Just a few mentionned Sharks. I guess not everyone consider it as being a Frankfurt club though considering the location in Darmstadt. It comes down to your own chemistry with the girls. And this is nothing new. I've been travelling all over Europe and Asia, and it is different from time to time and from year to year which clubs and places or bars that are the best. The lineup changes often, even if only 2-3 girls leave, they may have been your old favourites. When they leave, it will feel as if the club is much worse. But then the same girls may reappear a week later, or they may get a new gem. It is also a good point to look at F / M ratios and hit the right days at every club, but I wouldn't generalize.
My personal monger advice would therefor be that you should keep exploring new places all the time! If you return to a place too often leaving other clubs in the cold, that usually means that you have a thing for one of the wg's. And that is usually bad for both you and for your impression of the club. If you fall in love, you better feel absolutely safe about it. But in 90% of the cases, you are just being fooled.
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[QUOTE=Manny51;1463554]Just curious, as someone who seems to know the scene pretty well, is Mainhatten in your top five?[/QUOTE]Definetively in Top 5 and worth a visit.
My Top 5 would be: Oase - World - Sharks - Mainhattan - Palace. That is a general view based on visits over the last two years. Oase and World are my preferred clubs. Sharks is the most interesting outsider. Mainhattan: Nice, just smaller and with an an out-of-place kino. Palace: Suffers from a general lack of service standards and I just didn't like the last renovation (made the club uncomfy). No outdoors.
Like everybody else I highly respect HB's views and believe he is more up to date on the Frankfurt clubs than everybody else, and that includes myself! Still, every September there often are changes in the line-ups, so HB: We need an updated ranking in about a month! :) Lack of service standards at Oase? Sad to hear that. I guess I have been lucky so far. Another reminder that one need to select carefully when testing new girls.
[QUOTE=Manny51;1463554]Someone on the forums recently posted an opinion (I think I read it in the LOD section) that Mainhatten was the best in terms of the friendliness, non-sharkiness of the girls. He implied that they were the most upfront about everything and didn't try to upsell or con. Keep in mind, he did confess that the girls there were not at the tops in terms of looks, but still pretty good.[/QUOTE]I have only 4 visits to Mainhattan to date, but my impression has been that the friendliness / non-sharkiness is on the same level as experienced at Oase / World. A friend of mine who has visited the club more than me claims Mainhattan is starting to get shark-infested. Based on my few visits I would say that in terms of looks Mainhattan was doing good, but it's just a smaller line-up. If I find 10 girls in the 8- 9 category at Oase, I will not expect to find more than 2- 4 at Mainhattan. Opinions on this will obviously vary.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1463602]Like everybody else I highly respect HB's views and believe he is more up to date on the Frankfurt clubs than everybody else, and that includes myself! Still, every September there often are changes in the line-ups, so HB: We need an updated ranking in about a month! :)[/QUOTE]100% agree with comments regarding HB and a mandatory September update. LOL