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[QUOTE=GothFkk;2070660]Considering info written here, it's smart not to choose Oase. But, another problem is another club in Frankfurt would be a packed hell, too. But World might be a little better due to far distance from Frankfurt. My choice on 14th, Thu, might be World or straightly going to Dusseldorf from Frankfurt airport.
And never mind "Jason". Just a rubbish figurative expression. They go camping at Crystal Lake to have fun with girls, but it turn out no escape nightmare. Yes, it's a movie. "Jason night" at Crystal Oase.[/QUOTE][URL]http://fridaythe13th.wikia.com/wiki/Jason_Voorhees[/URL]
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2070698]IAA has the biggest impact on Mainhattan, Palace and Oase. Then Sharks. World rarely has any visitors from the Frankfurt Messe.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GothFkk;2070660]Considering info written here, it's smart not to choose Oase. But, another problem is another club in Frankfurt would be a packed hell, too. But World might be a little better due to far distance from Frankfurt. My choice on 14th, Thu, might be World or straightly going to Dusseldorf from Frankfurt airport.[/QUOTE]Yeah, probably World or Finca Erotica at that point. Thanks.
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First time in an FKK Club
So just had my first experience at an FKK club at Oase. I spent 2 days and have a reasonably enjoyable time. I think I mostly got charged way too much though and the constant upselling was quite annoying. Most girls wouldn't take no when expressed politely and would continue to try. I guess rookie mistakes though. My last session though with a sweet Romanian girl was amazing and I tipped her huge for that. And advice on how to know exactly what a girl will do for what without actually suggesting to her to charge extra. My preference is for normal BBBJ, vaginal sex and kissing. But in rooms I got too scared to even do anything beyond getting a BJ and sex with fear of a hearty cost again. Like I seriously had some massively inflated sessions. One 3 some for 1.5 or 2 hours ended up costing me €1000. Despite all that though the last session tonight was kinda worth all the other crap. But still want to be better prepare if I'm ever in Europe again and visit FKK.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2070907]So just had my first experience at an FKK club at Oase. I spent 2 days and have a reasonably enjoyable time. I think I mostly got charged way too much though and the constant upselling was quite annoying. Most girls wouldn't take no when expressed politely and would continue to try. I guess rookie mistakes though. My last session though with a sweet Romanian girl was amazing and I tipped her huge for that. And advice on how to know exactly what a girl will do for what without actually suggesting to her to charge extra. My preference is for normal BBBJ, vaginal sex and kissing. But in rooms I got too scared to even do anything beyond getting a BJ and sex with fear of a hearty cost again. Like I seriously had some massively inflated sessions. One 3 some for 1.5 or 2 hours ended up costing me 1000. Despite all that though the last session tonight was kinda worth all the other crap. But still want to be better prepare if I'm ever in Europe again and visit FKK.[/QUOTE]Well done for the threesome costing 1000 euro. You must have had an amazing time?
Let us assume it was 2 hours to give the benefit of the doubt since it seems even you are not even sure. I think the girls may have creatively added the extra half hour when it was more like under 1. 5 hours. So the costing would be for two girls:
2 hours x 2 girls x 100 per hour = 400 euro.
Lesbian show for the session 50 x 2 girls = 100.
CIM with 2 girls x 50 euro each = 100.
Anal sex with 2 girls at 100 each = 200.
Kissing 50 extra x 2 girls = 100.
DATY 50 extra x 2 girls = 100.
Total damage is 1000 euro.
To me kissing and DATY are not extras but some girls require that price. I just say no and move on.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2071170]Well done for the threesome costing 1000 euro. You must have had an amazing time?
Let us assume it was 2 hours to give the benefit of the doubt since it seems even you are not even sure. I think the girls may have creatively added the extra half hour when it was more like under 1. 5 hours. So the costing would be for two girls:
2 hours x 2 girls x 100 per hour = 400 euro.
Lesbian show for the session 50 x 2 girls = 100.
CIM with 2 girls x 50 euro each = 100.
Anal sex with 2 girls at 100 each = 200.
Kissing 50 extra x 2 girls = 100.
DATY 50 extra x 2 girls = 100.
Total damage is 1000 euro.
To me kissing and DATY are not extras but some girls require that price. I just say no and move on.[/QUOTE]Over the past 4 weeks or thereabouts I banged 20 girls at FKKs inclusive of DATY and some kissing. It cost me 1000 euros plus entry fee of course. Unfortunately for some guys they are on short trips and need to spend the money while they are there.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2070907]So just had my first experience at an FKK club at Oase. I spent 2 days and have a reasonably enjoyable time. I think I mostly got charged way too much though and the constant upselling was quite annoying. Most girls wouldn't take no when expressed politely and would continue to try. I guess rookie mistakes though. My last session though with a sweet Romanian girl was amazing and I tipped her huge for that. And advice on how to know exactly what a girl will do for what without actually suggesting to her to charge extra. My preference is for normal BBBJ, vaginal sex and kissing. But in rooms I got too scared to even do anything beyond getting a BJ and sex with fear of a hearty cost again. Like I seriously had some massively inflated sessions. One 3 some for 1.5 or 2 hours ended up costing me 1000. Despite all that though the last session tonight was kinda worth all the other crap. But still want to be better prepare if I'm ever in Europe again and visit FKK.[/QUOTE]If a girl wants to charge extra for kissing or DATY, she must tell you beforehand. If she says nothing, then you can refuse to pay. If she gets mad, you can go to Reception and allow Reception to clarify to the girls how the club works. Yes, CIM and Anal are extras. These you must pay. Kissing and DATY however are not extras UNLESS you agree to pay these.
Once one girl took advantage of you charging so many non-standard extras, she ran away to tell all her friends that you were an easy mark. That's one of the reasons the other girls may have been so aggressive with you. The girls don't have ISG, but they have their extensive Stasi network.
All of the above is complete conjecture on my part. So it may make sense to ignore everything in my post. Then again, based on your report, I worry that the girls took advantage of you a little bit.
If you know you're going to do some extra (maybe CIM or Anal or something), and the girl also wants to charge you for kissing or DATY or whatever, you can insist beforehand that you will only pay the CIM or Anal extra. No girl is going to refuse a CIM extra because you don't feel like paying for DATY for example. Ok, there are exceptions, but this is what you would find if you put it to the test. Just another option for you to consider next time.
In any case, you had fun, so no big deal maybe. You will be better prepared next time.
Thanks for sharing your report!
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2070907]So just had my first experience at an FKK club at Oase. I spent 2 days and have a reasonably enjoyable time. I think I mostly got charged way too much though and the constant upselling was quite annoying. Most girls wouldn't take no when expressed politely and would continue to try. I guess rookie mistakes though. [b]My last session though with a sweet Romanian girl was amazing [u]and I tipped her huge for that.[/u][/b] And advice on how to know exactly what a girl will do for what without actually suggesting to her to charge extra. My preference is for normal BBBJ, vaginal sex and kissing. But in rooms I got too scared to even do anything beyond getting a BJ and sex with fear of a hearty cost again. [b]Like I seriously had some massively inflated sessions. One 3 some for 1.5 or 2 hours ended up costing me 1000.[/b] Despite all that though the last session tonight was kinda worth all the other crap. But still want to be better prepare if I'm ever in Europe again and visit FKK.[/QUOTE]As the saying goes: a sucker is born every minute. 🙄.
One THOUSAND Euros for a 1,5-2 hour 3 some? Jesus H. Fucking Christ! 😵.
By the way, you really did your homework by hitting Oase first. That place is FULL of upselling sharks. 😡.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2071215]
Once one girl took advantage of you charging so many non-standard extras, she ran away to tell all her friends that you were an easy mark. That's one of the reasons the other girls may have been so aggressive with you. The girls don't have ISG, but they have their extensive Stasi network.
[/QUOTE]Well, yes and no. Of course the girls have their own gossip network, but constantly getting harassed by WG's is IMHO also very symptomatic of Oase.
When I visited Oase I was pestered to death by girls. From the moment I set a foot in the club (= no rooms, and no other girls can gossip about you) they constantly bothered me and even at that time I was far from a rookie.
And it wasn't polite pestering either, it was a very agressieve and rude way of approaching, and even a polite "no, thank you" to 2 girls offering a 3 some was met with a barrage of swearing words in Romanian. (maybe the same two girls that DBoyMc81 ran in to 😂 )
Of course prostitutes generally aren't the most educated women (otherwise they'd be doing something else, or with their looks they would have married a rich guy that treats them well) but the girls I found in Oase were the lowest of 'trailerpark trash with a truck driver's mouth' you can imagine.
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I remember one night I had three threesomes at an FKK. The lesbian show upcharge came up they warned me prior so I just told them to forgo the lesbian show and just concentrate on me. No sense paying for lesbianshow the girls can do their lesbian games on their own dime, as far as I'm concerned. But a decent threesome in the NRW should be for a 30 minute session back when CIM was legal, only a total of 150 euros.
[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2071381]As the saying goes: a sucker is born every minute. 🙄.
One THOUSAND Euros for a 1,5-2 hour 3 some? Jesus H. Fucking Christ! 😵.
By the way, you really did your homework by hitting Oase first. That place is FULL of upselling sharks. 😡.[/QUOTE]
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There's no club I get pestered at. Oase girls are relaxed and cool.
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2 hrs 2 girls = 400.
Both anal = 200.
Lesbian, another 100?
DATY and DFK = another 100.
BLS some more extra.
Remaining = tips for being generous and kind hearted and not being money grubbers.
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Romanian Brunette
Hey guys,
I really appreciate the responses to my experience and questions I had about it all. It all seems to make a lot more sense now so thanks again.
I do have another question though. I messaged Oase to ask but they don't seem to reply at all.
Since my last session with was with a Romanian girl that was amazing I wanted to know if another Romanian girl I briefly spoke with would be working on Monday as I fly back to Australia on Tuesday. I don't remember her name though. I do remember she was a very petite brunette with be cup boobs I would say and I'm fairly certain she had a tattoo on her left ankle of Minnie Mouse the cartoon character. Does anyone know her name as I would be very interested in having a session with her before I go back home. And I would like to know for sure if she is working on Monday.
Regards.
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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2071381]As the saying goes: a sucker is born every minute. 🙄.
One THOUSAND Euros for a 1,5-2 hour 3 some? Jesus H. Fucking Christ! 😵.
By the way, you really did your homework by hitting Oase first. That place is FULL of upselling sharks. 😡.[/QUOTE]Yeah I wish I'd done some homework. However I didn't even know these places existed until 2 days prior. Which is the best club around Frankfurt if you don't mind me asking. As in terms of attractive women and also not getting a shake down so hard it makes my head spin and leaves my wallet empty. Hard lessons to learn but at the end of the day it was an experience that I can never have in Australia so I'll cop it sweet. Thanks again though if you have some info on a better place to visit.
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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2071381]As the saying goes: a sucker is born every minute. 🙄.
One THOUSAND Euros for a 1,5-2 hour 3 some? Jesus H. Fucking Christ! 😵.
By the way, you really did your homework by hitting Oase first. That place is FULL of upselling sharks. 😡.[/QUOTE]Yeah I wish I'd done some homework. However I didn't even know these places existed until 2 days prior. Which is the best club around Frankfurt if you don't mind me asking. As in terms of attractive women and also not getting a shake down so hard it makes my head spin and leaves my wallet empty. Hard lessons to learn but at the end of the day it was an experience that I can never have in Australia so I'll cop it sweet. Thanks again though if you have some info on a better place to visit.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2071456]Yeah I wish I'd done some homework. However I didn't even know these places existed until 2 days prior. Which is the best club around Frankfurt if you don't mind me asking. As in terms of attractive women and also not getting a shake down so hard it makes my head spin and leaves my wallet empty. Hard lessons to learn but at the end of the day it was an experience that I can never have in Australia so I'll cop it sweet. Thanks again though if you have some info on a better place to visit.[/QUOTE]For those guys who stick to the Frankfurt area, most people's favorite club tends to split between Sharks and Oase. My personal favorite is Oase. Then again, I don't have any of the problems in Oase that Horny Harry complained about. I have no idea why he's apparently a magnet for such aggressive approaches. Perhaps he is so incredibly attractive that the girls can't pull themselves away from him? I don't have that problem at all. Girls don't bother me at all in the club. Then again, I'm a known face there. The girls already know that I go with exactly who I want when I want. I also don't experience any upselling. I suspect that this is because the girls have already spread the word through their Stasi network that I'm a cheap Charlie who doesn't pay for extras. Maybe that's it?
If you visit Frankfurt again, given current conditions, I would personally recommend that you stick to both Sharks and Oase. After spending a little time at each, you can decide which club is your personal favorite.
Just try to not make snap judgements about one club or the other based solely on a few isolated experiences. Every club has a few bad apples. You should try a lot of apples before making any final conclusions about a club.
After you've spent some time in the Frankfurt area, then you can consider visiting all of the clubs in the North-Rhein-Westphalia area (Cologne, Dusseldorf, etc).
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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2071381]As the saying goes: a sucker is born every minute. 🙄.
One THOUSAND Euros for a 1,5-2 hour 3 some? Jesus H. Fucking Christ! 😵.
By the way, you really did your homework by hitting Oase first. That place is FULL of upselling sharks. 😡.[/QUOTE]This is your feeling it is not mine at all, visited this club probably more than 100 times and never but never get any negative experience. May be the best LU with Shark, nice sweet girls what to expect more.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2071488]For those guys who stick to the Frankfurt area, most people's favorite club tends to split between Sharks and Oase. My personal favorite is Oase. Then again, I don't have any of the problems in Oase that Horny Harry complained about. I have no idea why he's apparently a magnet for such aggressive approaches. Perhaps he is so incredibly attractive that the girls can't pull themselves away from him? I don't have that problem at all. Girls don't bother me at all in the club. Then again, I'm a known face there. The girls already know that I go with exactly who I want when I want. I also don't experience any upselling. I suspect that this is because the girls have already spread the word through their Stasi network that I'm a cheap Charlie who doesn't pay for extras. Maybe that's it?
If you visit Frankfurt again, given current conditions, I would personally recommend that you stick to both Sharks and Oase. After spending a little time at each, you can decide which club is your personal favorite.
Just try to not make snap judgements about one club or the other based solely on a few isolated experiences. Every club has a few bad apples. You should try a lot of apples before making any final conclusions about a club.
After you've spent some time in the Frankfurt area, then you can consider visiting all of the clubs in the North-Rhein-Westphalia area (Cologne, Dusseldorf, etc).[/QUOTE]The girls tend to buzz around newbies like flies on shit. The prima donnas particularly like to target the Asians. Its all about easy money. When they see that you do not give into their bs and stick to fifty euro half hour sessions for required service they leave you to come to them then its off to the room.
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Nothing bad, most of the girls like asian guys just because they are soft or shy with small dicks and pay well, why should they prefer guys with a lot of testosterone, fucking them hard.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2070907]So just had my first experience at an FKK club at Oase. I spent 2 days and have a reasonably enjoyable time. I think I mostly got charged way too much though and the constant upselling was quite annoying. Most girls wouldn't take no when expressed politely and would continue to try. I guess rookie mistakes though. My last session though with a sweet Romanian girl was amazing and I tipped her huge for that. And advice on how to know exactly what a girl will do for what without actually suggesting to her to charge extra. My preference is for normal BBBJ, vaginal sex and kissing. But in rooms I got too scared to even do anything beyond getting a BJ and sex with fear of a hearty cost again. Like I seriously had some massively inflated sessions. One 3 some for 1.5 or 2 hours ended up costing me 1000. Despite all that though the last session tonight was kinda worth all the other crap. But still want to be better prepare if I'm ever in Europe again and visit FKK.[/QUOTE]Good on you for admitting your mistakes. It's really helpful to hear hear tales like these to show how unscrupulous some girls can be.Thanks.
Remember you are in charge, not the girls. They individually need your money much more than you need them. If a girl starts to be sharky, ditch her.
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I am not a known face whatsoever at Oase, and still don't face much of this sharky shit from girls. I am a slightly better known face in Sharks, and it's the same there. In any case, girls asking me to fuck them is never ever a problem. And the day it becomes a problem I would lock myself inside my room and weep.
A few girls ask more than once for a session of course, but that's normal and I don't mind it in the least. I prefer girls ask me more than once. I might not like her on the first approach but might like after a bit of reflection, or may be I was not ready at the first attempt, yadda yadda. I do approach girls when I had sessions with them previously; but With a girl new to me almost all my sessions happen when they approach me and not the other way. I like to sit back and relax, have them approach me and show interest in my business and express a desire to get it. I am not selling myself to them but vice versa and I want to listen to the sales pitch. It's part of the fun and what makes FKK more interesting.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2071488] I have no idea why he's apparently a magnet for such aggressive approaches. Perhaps he is so incredibly attractive that the girls can't pull themselves away from him? I don't have that problem at all. Girls don't bother me at all in the club. [/QUOTE]Nope, I'm a very average looking guy and I never had the same [B]continuous[/B] aggressive and rude experiences in Sharks, Samya or GT. I haven't visited World in ages, but there girls were quite aggressive as well. In GT the girls basically leave the customers alone apart from some cheerful or flirty remarks, and IMHO Sharks has really cracked down on the excessive and aggressive approaching compared to a few years ago. In Sharks girls still approach me when sitting down or stop me when I'm walking around, which is perfectly fine to me, but almost none act rude when I tell them "no, thanks" in a polite way.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2071488]Then again, I don't have any of the problems in Oase that Horny Harry complained about.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2071488] I don't have that problem at all. Girls don't bother me at all in the club. Then again, I'm a known face there.[/QUOTE]Yes, being a known face helps of course, but I don't feel like spending 650 Euros on entry fees in order to become a "known face" so that most girls will treat me in a normal way.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2071456]Yeah I wish I'd done some homework. However I didn't even know these places existed until 2 days prior. Which is the best club around Frankfurt if you don't mind me asking. As in terms of attractive women and also not getting a shake down so hard it makes my head spin and leaves my wallet empty. Hard lessons to learn but at the end of the day it was an experience that I can never have in Australia so I'll cop it sweet. Thanks again though if you have some info on a better place to visit.[/QUOTE]Well, as far as attractive women are concerned I think Sharks is not bad and IMHO they are quite also reasonable in leaving people alone. If you have access to a rental car (if you can spend 1k on a threesome then I guess a rental car should be manageable 😉 ), I can also highly recommend GT (Golden Time) near the Dutch border about 30 minutes by car from Dusseldorf. I think that place would be near perfect for someone who is new to all of this. At GT almost no girls make approaches, so you can take your time and not get suckered into sessions with the real sharks that approach men in order to push and lure them into overpriced sessions, and to top if off even try to manipulate you and put you on a guilt trip to give them a big tip as well.
For as far as not getting taken for a ride, try to man up a bit mate and use some common sense. Things like "huge tips" or paying a whopping grand for a 1,5 to 2 hour threesome are not going to make these girls fall in love with you. And why would you want that anyways? You don't need to impress them in order to fuck them, because you already [i]did[/i] fuck them! 😃 Yes some girls can be nice and sweet, but its their job to be nice and sweet and give you the [u]illusion[/u] of a girlfriend or pornstar. You pay for sex and the price is 50 Euros per 30 minutes, that's it. It's not rocket science.
Pay them the normal rate and act as if it's the most normal thing in the world (which it is) and you'll see that these girls will not instantly change into dragons and rip your head off if you 'only' pay them the normal amount due.
Pretend you're in a supermarket in Oz where you might be nice and polite and make a little joke with that good looking cashier when you pay her the exact amount it says on the display and not a penny more.
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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2071541]Nope, I'm a very average looking guy and I never had the same [B]continuous[/B] aggressive and rude experiences in Sharks, Samya or GT. I haven't visited World in ages, but there girls were quite aggressive as well. [/QUOTE]If there is any club with aggressive girls it might be Palace, Artemis or Paradise in Stuttgart. GT and Samya more or less have a non approach policy. And at World girls are not aggressive at all, never have been. Same for Oase or Sharks. What are you doing that girls are pestering you?
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Dboymc81
Instead of "homework " some guys mostly the Arabs are smarter: They find themselves a smart German taxi driver in front. Of their hotel, that takes them on the shortest way to the currently best FKK for the customers needs, and regardless how much commission they get! Because then they would take everybody only to FKK- Mainhattan). But try to get this consult from your rental-car company! But I understand the problem: customers prefer to waste 1000 dollars / euros (whatever) on useless threesomes instead of spending 100 dollars / euros to go to a better FKK-club than Oase. Locals don't go to Oase anymore since years, and there are reasons for that!
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[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2071583] But I understand the problem: customers prefer to waste 1000 dollars / euros (whatever) on useless threesomes instead of spending 100 dollars / euros to go to a better FKK-club than Oase. Locals don't go to Oase anymore since years, and there are reasons for that![/QUOTE]Not that was my preference. Like I mentioned earlier. I didn't know these places existed until 2 days ago. I also was finishing it difficult to stop girls pestering the shit out of me. And not understanding how it all worked I got taken for a ride. Hence why I am asking these questions to get a better understanding and also have first hand knowledge from regulars as to how to avoid these mistakes and get more bang for my buck in the future. I even had girls give me a massage for €50 30 mins and then try to offer sex or blowjob for another €50 which to me seems bill shit as the original price is inclusive of sex and BJ. So it seems my lack of knowledge about The Who thing was obvious and got me caught out. I much rather prefer one on one sessions. The had a girl out her pussy in face without mentioning cost and at the end well you can figure out how it turned out I'm sure. So for me it's been difficult learning curve.
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Also does anyone know the name of petite brunette Romanian with a couple of small tattoos. The one I remember was Minnie Mouse above her left ankle.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2071583] Locals don't go to Oase anymore since years, and there are reasons for that![/QUOTE]Rubbish and bullshit. Not true at all.
I visited Oase (and Sharks, in fact probably more often than Oase) over several weeks spanning May and most of June. I visited on busy days (Weds/Fri/Sat/Sun) and not so busy weekdays, and during each visit I kept seeing several guys, the same faces, who were almost always there as well. A few of them would play volleyball in the garden all the time, mixing with some game girls (for example, Alexa and the vivacious girls with bright red hair/tattoss, forgot her name) and whatever willing Asian or whoever non-regular men.
Now, if you were to say something like "Proportionally, not as many locals visit Oase these days as used to be the case five-ten years ago..." Well, there we might all agree. But to say "Locals don't go to Oase anymore since years..." That is simply a misleading and inaccurate statement, in my experience.
And whilst I am posting here on Oase thread, I'll weigh in on (Prince?) Horny Harry's dilemna at Oase: I envy you HH, because I've actually had the complete opposite experience with not being approached or "hassled" by aggressive girls enough at Oase. I mean, too often they leave me alone more than I would prefer sometimes. I actually enjoy playing "the Game" with these girls. I find it amusing and exciting sometimes to deflect these pathetic and so transparent acts of the girls to push me into a session with them. But too often, for example when I sit alone in the Kino, I see girls "attack" other guys (not just solo sitting Asians), and by-pass me. :(
Thus, I have no idea why Harry (and maybe a couple of others) encounter what they do in this club. I am probably a semi-known face there, as I have several regular girls, I most often do 1-hour sessions, only do 30mins if it's a new girl for me without a high service Wow-factor. Plus, although I am NOT German in reality, I am (luckily) able to speak Deutsch much better and more fluently than many of the (mostly) Romanian girls at Oase, even though for sure any real native German-speaker would know immediately I am an Auslander! So I make deliberate practise of mis-representing myself to the girls as a local Frankfurt resident, so as to create the illusion in the girls' minds that I AM actually a local. (Tit for tat, right?). At Oase, I tell the girls I live in Oberursel (at Sharks: I tell the girls I live in Wixhausen) :)
So, I don't know for sure, but maybe some of this might explain why I don't this over-the-top aggressive treatment from (even newly arrived) Oase girls. Actually, at other clubs like MH and Sharks, I am approached aggressively (or passively) more often than at Oase.
So different experiences for different guys, I guess.
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Locals still go to Oase?! Horny harry & ortos
So Ortes if you think this is bullshit first we review your own post: like you rightly said. Locals go there to play volleyball and waterball and all kinds of games with the girls or other visitors. That' s a nice free time occupation, but I'm sorry, me and my customers go for fucking into FKK-clubs, and most of the times on a limited time-frame. As I already said on German boards Oase has just one globe-performing woman left, that's Elizabeth (cz). The others to my knowledge can not meet my performance requirements. So for me and all my body's Oase is out of the game, because Elisabeths attendance is nowhere steady or anyhow predictable. And since I have not a cheap Charlie image at Oase, I can also verify horny harries view of the aggressive approach of a lot of girls there (I might have the advantage that a lot of the hazlers don't even approach me, because they fear complaints of well known regulars).
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[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2071583]Instead of "homework " some guys mostly the Arabs are smarter: They find themselves a smart German taxi driver in front. Of their hotel, that takes them on the shortest way to the currently best FKK for the customers needs, and regardless how much commission they get! [/QUOTE]Cab drivers don't care and don't even know which are the best FKK regarding service. They care about the money they make, longer turns plus commission.
There are still regulars at Oase, currently their numbers are increasing. Still the majority of visitors are tourists.
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[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2071583]Instead of "homework " some guys mostly the Arabs are smarter: They find themselves a smart German taxi driver in front. Of their hotel, that takes them on the shortest way to the currently best FKK for the customers needs, and regardless how much commission they get! Because then they would take everybody only to FKK- Mainhattan). But try to get this consult from your rental-car company! But I understand the problem: customers prefer to waste 1000 dollars / euros (whatever) on useless threesomes instead of spending 100 dollars / euros to go to a better FKK-club than Oase. Locals don't go to Oase anymore since years, and there are reasons for that![/QUOTE]I hope that you are joking, Oase is still a very popular club for the local German mongers, just arrive at 9:50 am and you will see how many cars with german plates are there not the HH which are mostly rented cars.
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[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2071703] like you rightly said. Locals go there to play volleyball and waterball and all kinds of games with the girls or other visitors. That' s a nice free time occupation, but I'm sorry, me and my customers go for fucking into FKK-clubs, and most of the times on a limited time-frame. [/QUOTE]I don't "think" it's bullshit: I know it is, because I see local guys there all the time. That's all. But one can read (between the lines) in your post that you have extreme hostility for Oase, perhaps based on real negative experiences, so maybe you were just over-stating the distaste of all Locals for the club?
I never posted or implied that some guys go to Oase only to play volleyball. Just because some guys play volleyball, etc. does not mean they don't go to the club to fuck as well, just like you and your "customers. " I guess: Some people like to fill out a multi-hour visit with intra-session activities.
I agree that Elizabeth Cz now maintains very irregular attendance at BHH, if indeed she'll ever come back. However, not everybody can or will agree that she is the (how did you phrase it?) "only Globe-performing" girl at Oase. I meet girls at the club all the time that claim to be on leave from Globe. Plus: The line-up is so vast and ever-changing, plus so many guys have different tastes and service requirements that these kind of blanket statements are deeply subjective and not universal to everybody. But thanks for your opinion.
So I was simply countering your post with my own opinion that, indeed, many Locals still do attend Oase, both to fuck or not fuck or whatever. What a guy does in the club, why he chooses to go there and how much money, if any, he spends after Eintritt: That is their business, not ours, I am sure you agree? And far be it for me or you to judge somebody else's motivations.
But it is great to get your constructive opinions and thanks for taking the time to contribute, etc. :)
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Punchbowl. You say that some guys prefer to waste money going to Oase rather than a better FKK. I am wondering if you might do a full report on which FKK you consider to be better.
I'm hoping you are not going to say Sharks LOL. My tastes for the girls there don't seem to co-incide with yours: no girls with an optimum mix of optics, character and service.
Sounds like you are missing your disappearing Oase favourite and so the club has lost its allure. I know that phenomenon ;)
I'm interested as I am planning to renew my acquaintance with Oase after several years and am looking for information.
I agree with your point that the real issue is to find a club with girls one likes who will provide good service with no scamming.
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Rogue nation: about cab drivers
Sorry for offtopic, but I just have to say this: years ago I had an American customer bragging: you know: we in New York, we don't have American cab-drivers anymore, they are all from Pakistan, India, turkey, Kazakhstan, and so on. So I said guess what: We here in K'town have three major Mexican restaurant, maybe 100 sq-meters each, and none of the owners, or waitresses or cooks are from Mexico. They are all from Pakistan, India, or Bangladesh.
So now you know why Americans mistrusts so much the cab-drivers. Because they have never seen one with a professional ethic.
And by the way: you don't seem to have an idea of Frankfurt-nighttime-taxi-mathematics: if you can calculate, if every second ride goes to FKK (like a lot of nights) it's much smarter to take the customers to palace with the shortest distance, or mainhattan with the second shortest, but highest commission of all Frankfurt-FKKs. But since Mainhattan has no advantages from my point of view compared to Oase (that means just as bad), there is only sharks remaining, as the only reachable alternate. Palace of course for experienced guys, that know how to get rid of the upsell-queens. FKK-world: far from good enough for the costs. And by the way: how many visits in Oase you have?
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[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2071942]Sorry for offtopic, but I just have to say this: years ago I had an American customer bragging: you know: we in New York, we don't have American cab-drivers anymore, they are all from Pakistan, India, turkey, Kazakhstan, and so on.
So now you know why Americans mistrusts so much the cab-drivers. Because they have never seen one with a professional ethic.
[/QUOTE]Interesting little story. But just to inject this: there is a part of Queens that is nick-named "Taxi-stan. ".
BTW: How many taxi drivers at Friedricksdorft Banhof, or waiting at night at the Oase parking area, are actually ethnic German? Very, very few is my guess. Most are Turkish, Persian (Iran) or even (like NYC) Pakistan. Some of those drivers waiting at Oase are dishonest drivers who will attempt to rip you off. Others are honest, decent drivers.
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[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2071942]And by the way: you don't seem to have an idea of Frankfurt-nighttime-taxi-mathematics: if you can calculate, if every second ride goes to FKK (like a lot of nights) it's much smarter to take the customers to palace with the shortest distance, or mainhattan with the second shortest, but highest commission of all Frankfurt-FKKs. [/QUOTE]Mainhattan with the highest commission for cab drivers? How much?
[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2071942]And by the way: how many visits in Oase you have?[/QUOTE]300.
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[QUOTE=PunchBowl;2071703]So Ortes if you think this is bullshit first we review your own post: like you rightly said. Locals go there to play volleyball and waterball and all kinds of games with the girls or other visitors. That' s a nice free time occupation, but I'm sorry, me and my customers go for fucking into FKK-clubs, and most of the times on a limited time-frame. As I already said on German boards Oase has just one globe-performing woman left, that's Elizabeth (cz). The others to my knowledge can not meet my performance requirements. So for me and all my body's Oase is out of the game, because Elisabeths attendance is nowhere steady or anyhow predictable. And since I have not a cheap Charlie image at Oase, I can also verify horny harries view of the aggressive approach of a lot of girls there (I might have the advantage that a lot of the hazlers don't even approach me, because they fear complaints of well known regulars).[/QUOTE]With the worlds you are using it seems that you are full of negative testosterone, the girls like you are here to fuck you fuck them physically and the girls fuck you by cheating you so all the things are on the right place. If you like Globe just go there and nobody will even notice that you are no more visiting Oase. (also true for me).
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So I decided to go back to Oase for my final day. Even though I've been proper played on my first two visits and parted ways with far too much cash. I would like to say thanks to everyone's advice and comments. So far it's been amazing and at a cost price it should be. Just being a little more firm with my no's and more selective in the type of girls I go to a room with. I would suggest to anyone new. If the girls tells you she's not pushy like the others then avoid like the plague. They have been the most pushy and most expensive and not the best. I thought I would get hammered today by the girls as surely they've spoken about how easy I was to get money from. But it seemed after my first refusal and first session they haven't been so bad. Perhaps I hold myself a little differently after all the research. But again thanks heaps for the comments and help it's been greatly appreciated. I can't wait until I get to come back again.
Also to note I've found the Romanian women to be the least pushy and best service.
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Taxi drivers, ortos
I was speaking about the taxi-stands in front of the Frankfurt /5 star-hotels. Others I don't serve. Oase-taxidrivers and Friedrichsdorf taxidrivers for the cheap Charly's don't interest me! I go for 10 euros to sharks, because I believe in returning customers only. Maybe my interest in the future of our FKK-Clubs is higher than even if some owner. Mauro behaves like the former captain of the titanic. If you think I'm bashing Oase than read reports of Streuner-Strolch on the German LSH-board or Pataphysical Mind Fuck from 12/7/2013! Here you can read, that many locals just go to Oase for eat and chill (wellness) because of the mostly scamming girls!
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I will be in Frankfurt next week (Thursday and Friday). So far I'm planning on going to Oase and Sharks. However, from reading the last few posts I don't know if I should switch out Oase with GT. I don't mind little bit upselling as long the girls try to make it worth my $$.
-Someone mentioned Volleyball, do guys play with their robes, nude or bring Nike shorts. I'm under the impression you just wear a rob in all FKKs.
- does it matter if I visit Oase on Thursday or Friday?
-Should I ask the girl in advance if she offers BBBJ or can only do that when we are in the room since its illegal. As for other services, do you guys ask them point straight if they do DFK or CIF. If that's regarded as weird, what's a better approach.
- How do you guys keep track of time in the room. On my last visit to Harmony, I wasn't sure it has been an hour or 25 minutes.
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[QUOTE=Dittoow;2073144]I will be in Frankfurt next week (Thursday and Friday). So far I'm planning on going to Oase and Sharks. However, from reading the last few posts I don't know if I should switch out Oase with GT. I don't mind little bit upselling as long the girls try to make it worth my $$.[/QUOTE]GT as in Golden Time? It's a three hour drive from Frankfurt, isn't it?
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[QUOTE=Dittoow;2073144]I will be in Frankfurt next week (Thursday and Friday). So far I'm planning on going to Oase and Sharks. However, from reading the last few posts I don't know if I should switch out Oase with GT. I don't mind little bit upselling as long the girls try to make it worth my $$.
-Someone mentioned Volleyball, do guys play with their robes, nude or bring Nike shorts. I'm under the impression you just wear a rob in all FKKs.
- does it matter if I visit Oase on Thursday or Friday?
-Should I ask the girl in advance if she offers BBBJ or can only do that when we are in the room since its illegal. As for other services, do you guys ask them point straight if they do DFK or CIF. If that's regarded as weird, what's a better approach.
- How do you guys keep track of time in the room. On my last visit to Harmony, I wasn't sure it has been an hour or 25 minutes.[/QUOTE]No need to keep track of the time. The girl will do it for you. Just tell them how long you want to stay.
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Bring a watch, with a timer if you can. Don't trust the girl, she could tell you that the time is over when you actually have 10 minutes left.
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[QUOTE=Dittoow;2073144]I will be in Frankfurt next week (Thursday and Friday). So far I'm planning on going to Oase and Sharks. However, from reading the last few posts I don't know if I should switch out Oase with GT. I don't mind little bit upselling as long the girls try to make it worth my $$.
-Someone mentioned Volleyball, do guys play with their robes, nude or bring Nike shorts. I'm under the impression you just wear a rob in all FKKs.
- does it matter if I visit Oase on Thursday or Friday?
-Should I ask the girl in advance if she offers BBBJ or can only do that when we are in the room since its illegal. As for other services, do you guys ask them point straight if they do DFK or CIF. If that's regarded as weird, what's a better approach.
- How do you guys keep track of time in the room. On my last visit to Harmony, I wasn't sure it has been an hour or 25 minutes.[/QUOTE]Better to keep relax about all those subjects and don t forget you go there to have pleasure and fun, you can play nude or like you want, don't hesitate to spend more than 50 euros with a girls you will get far better service.
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Don't trust a girl to keep the time, unless you know her very very well.
Some years ago it was different as Akibono's experience reflects, but definitely not now, no way.
Make sure the girl sees you looking discreetly at the watch when you enter the room, or when you take it off.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2073273]Don't trust a girl to keep the time, unless you know her very very well.
Some years ago it was different as Akibono's experience reflects, but definitely not now, no way.
Make sure the girl sees you looking discreetly at the watch when you enter the room, or when you take it off.[/QUOTE]My experience is that whenever the girl shortens the time the session's going bad anyway. Bad service girls usually worsen the experience in different ways.
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[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2073183]GT as in Golden Time? It's a three hour drive from Frankfurt, isn't it?[/QUOTE]Not sure how I thought its an hour drive. I guess I will have to stick to Oase and Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Dittoow;2073300]Not sure how I thought its an hour drive. I guess I will have to stick to Oase and Sharks.[/QUOTE]KCQuestor is correct, it's about 3 hours.
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Most guys wear either a robe or just a towel. The cool guys wear just the towel. You decide.
You can play volleyball in your robe or with your towel. You could wear Nike shorts -- if you want to be lame that is.
Just FYI. Thursday is lingerie day at Oase. Lingerie day is just as good for me as other days, but that's just me. Some guys actively avoid lingerie day.
Don't switch GT out for Oase until you have a longer trip with more days to blow.
You can ask your interview questions pre-room or in the room. This is personal preference. Either is perfectly acceptable. Some guys do a lot of pre-interview whereas others just go with the flow. I am a "go-with-the-flow" kind of guy, so I usually ask no more than 3-4 getting-to-know-her pre-Zimmer questions, merely to gauge her attitude. If she has a good attitude, then I run away with her into the sunset. If you have rather unusual deal-breaker requirements, then it may make sense to discuss pre-Zimmer. My approach works for me. I would fear asking too many questions might invite negotiations that would not have otherwise occurred had I not asked these questions to begin with. In any case, I don't ask any of these pre-screening questions and everything normally goes swimmingly for me in the room. Until that changes, I have no reason to pre-screen with all these service-oriented questions.
[QUOTE=Dittoow;2073144]I will be in Frankfurt next week (Thursday and Friday). So far I'm planning on going to Oase and Sharks. However, from reading the last few posts I don't know if I should switch out Oase with GT. I don't mind little bit upselling as long the girls try to make it worth my $$.
-Someone mentioned Volleyball, do guys play with their robes, nude or bring Nike shorts. I'm under the impression you just wear a rob in all FKKs.
- does it matter if I visit Oase on Thursday or Friday?
-Should I ask the girl in advance if she offers BBBJ or can only do that when we are in the room since its illegal. As for other services, do you guys ask them point straight if they do DFK or CIF. If that's regarded as weird, what's a better approach.
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WhatsApp
Just a quick question. To get a girl to add you on a messenger service like WhatsApp do you need to do that while with the girl. Or would reception give the girl your details if you call it through and leave it up to her if she wants to add you. Or would reception just ignore the request?
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2073273]Don't trust a girl to keep the time, unless you know her very very well.
Some years ago it was different as Akibono's experience reflects, but definitely not now, no way.
Make sure the girl sees you looking discreetly at the watch when you enter the room, or when you take it off.[/QUOTE]Sorry but optimist how as a senior monger can you write this stupid things, all the girls know you very well or you are spending more time in the forum that in the FKK and they will already please you even it is 5 minutes more, it is changing what for her, if she goes out of the room most probably she will have to seat on the bars and smoking so better to stay in the room. I am not having close to 3000 reports like you but in all my favorite clubs the girls know me very well and are just willing to go to the room with me. Don t forget that the girls speak between them and they share positive and negative experiences, for example there is one German guy around is nickname is Ferrari just because he owns one car from this company even he is quite rich most of the girls will not go to the room with him because he doesn't respect them.
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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;2071386]
When I visited Oase I was pestered to death by girls.
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And it wasn't polite pestering either, it was a very agressieve and rude way of approaching, and even a polite "no, thank you" to 2 girls offering a 3 some was met with a barrage of swearing words in Romanian.
[/QUOTE]Don't think "trailer trashiness" is exclusive to Oase. Just hidden better elsewhere.
If they beg like gypsies, being polite would just encourage them. Break eye contact and walk around them. They bully "polite guys" into taking a room, accepting rushed / shitty service inside the room, and at the money locker.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2073775]Just a quick question. To get a girl to add you on a messenger service like WhatsApp do you need to do that while with the girl. Or would reception give the girl your details if you call it through and leave it up to her if she wants to add you. Or would reception just ignore the request?[/QUOTE]They'll tell you to go fuck yourself. You have to ask the girl directly.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2073775]Just a quick question. To get a girl to add you on a messenger service like WhatsApp do you need to do that while with the girl. Or would reception give the girl your details if you call it through and leave it up to her if she wants to add you. Or would reception just ignore the request?[/QUOTE]You have got the FKK system wrong. The clubs strenuously state the girls are self-employed and will go out of their way to be seen to be at arms length from the girls. As BB69 says, you will get very scathing replies if you try to use the clubs as intermediaries.
Bear in mind that if you get a girls whatsapp she will think you are keen on her, and may well see no reason not to take advantage of the fact you have a lot more money than she does (in her view). I get whatsapp numbers sometimes: nothing wrong with it, but one needs to be forewarned of potential pitfalls.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2073775]Just a quick question. To get a girl to add you on a messenger service like WhatsApp do you need to do that while with the girl. Or would reception give the girl your details if you call it through and leave it up to her if she wants to add you. Or would reception just ignore the request.[/QUOTE]When girls want you for regular, no problem to share number, even sometimes Romanian number if girl trust you.
Risk is to be asked money when she is at home, with all family very sick. None of my very regular never did.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2073806]Don't think "trailer trashiness" is exclusive to Oase. Just hidden better elsewhere.
If they beg like gypsies, being polite would just encourage them. Break eye contact and walk around them. They bully "polite guys" into taking a room, accepting rushed / shitty service inside the room, and at the money locker.[/QUOTE]Indeed, this is more or less at all clubs. I felt it was the worst at Palace. But then I guess management started with those armbands. And it did lower it to some extent. At Oase it never bothered me, but more girls there know me too. Most girls in every club only try getting your eye contact like that once or maximum twice. Sometimes having an entire eye contact conversation with the girls across the lounges can be a funny way of communication. It takes some practice and getting used to though. And some girls are better at it than others too.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2073775]Just a quick question. To get a girl to add you on a messenger service like WhatsApp do you need to do that while with the girl. Or would reception give the girl your details if you call it through and leave it up to her if she wants to add you. Or would reception just ignore the request?[/QUOTE]I would recommend that you ask an email rather. I was offered a number by a german girl but I declined. If I had taken it, I would not be looking for her now. So I would take anything that keeps the contact.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2073775]Just a quick question. To get a girl to add you on a messenger service like WhatsApp do you need to do that while with the girl. Or would reception give the girl your details if you call it through and leave it up to her if she wants to add you. Or would reception just ignore the request?[/QUOTE]Reception will not help. Oase reception has been telling me that Nika De is on holidays for nearly 2 years. The only thing they can tell you is if a girl is present. But here you have a problem. If yoy tell them the brunette romanian girl, you will be describing all the girls in the club.
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2073775]Just a quick question. To get a girl to add you on a messenger service like WhatsApp do you need to do that while with the girl. Or would reception give the girl your details if you call it through and leave it up to her if she wants to add you. Or would reception just ignore the request?[/QUOTE]The interest of the club is that you pay entry fee, so it is very bad for them that you can contact the girls and may be meet them outside the clubs. Recommend you to only get her contacts if you had several rooms may be many hours to really make sure the chemistry is okay, and be ready to be live other things with the girl outside the clubs where there is no more any filter from the club management, but for me at least it is very positive.
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Anja, ex Sharks
Is Albanian Anja (Ex Sharks) still at Oase or did she move back to Sharks or Bumsalp? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Checkers1;2074629]Is Albanian Anja (Ex Sharks) still at Oase or did she move back to Sharks or Bumsalp? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Look about Tina at Bumsalp. Ch, on Tagesplan. She moves a lot.
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[QUOTE=RioDeJaneiro1;2074128]Reception will not help. Oase reception has been telling me that Nika De is on holidays for nearly 2 years. The only thing they can tell you is if a girl is present. But here you have a problem. If yoy tell them the brunette romanian girl, you will be describing all the girls in the club.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. That sucks that reception won't help. As I have no idea when I'll get back over to Germany. I guess have a chance to find her again if I go in another year. Arghhh!
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[QUOTE=DBoyMc81;2075410]Thanks for the info. That sucks that reception won't help. As I have no idea when I'll get back over to Germany. I guess have a chance to find her again if I go in another year. Arghhh![/QUOTE]I don't know where Nikka (de) is now but I saw her on a daily plan of club pearls in Trier maybe 2 months ago.
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Hitting up oase this week
Oase Thursday, Sharks Friday, Oase Saturday.
Only ever been to Oase like 5 x's on layovers into FRA. Some friends like sharks and look forward to sampling them for a day. I like the lingerie day at Oase as it just as well is naked to me anyway. For a legit massage at Oase how much are they charging for like 50 minutes if I remember correctly?
Any opinions on a Oase repeat or other suggestions?
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[QUOTE=CaliMan;2076411]Oase Thursday, Sharks Friday, Oase Saturday.
Only ever been to Oase like 5 x's on layovers into FRA. Some friends like sharks and look forward to sampling them for a day. I like the lingerie day at Oase as it just as well is naked to me anyway. For a legit massage at Oase how much are they charging for like 50 minutes if I remember correctly?
Any opinions on a Oase repeat or other suggestions?[/QUOTE]1 HR 60 e for Massage.
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Massage is 30 E for 30 mins. If it's the same as the girl price, no one would get the massage. I like this one Thai lady. Some girls recommended her to me and I thought she did a good job.
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[QUOTE=CaliMan;2076411]Oase Thursday, Sharks Friday, Oase Saturday.
Only ever been to Oase like 5 x's on layovers into FRA. Some friends like sharks and look forward to sampling them for a day. I like the lingerie day at Oase as it just as well is naked to me anyway. For a legit massage at Oase how much are they charging for like 50 minutes if I remember correctly?
Any opinions on a Oase repeat or other suggestions?[/QUOTE]Many girls on holiday, poor LU until mid of September when they will come back for the IAA.
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May (Phil.) still at Oase?
I will be in Frankfurt next week, and considering returning to Oase. Has May (Philippines) been seen recently? She used to only work on weekends (Saturday-Sunday), starting in the morning. Is that still the only time she is there, or has she been seen weekdays also? Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=NF4591;2076681]I will be in Frankfurt next week, and considering returning to Oase. Has May (Philippines) been seen recently? She used to only work on weekends (Saturday-Sunday), starting in the morning. Is that still the only time she is there, or has she been seen weekdays also? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I saw May one week day in July. That same day I also saw Kim (Thailand) who, together with the Cuban lady were the only two providers there now who I recollect from the great old days many years back.
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May is still there on a regular basis. Saw her this week.
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Alice silicon is at Oase. Michele / Shayen / Darla / Carla, Maya, Elisabet. Hu, also.
2 Thai type girls, many black girls.
Average casting for me.
Real improvement for foods.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2074768]Look about Tina at Bumsalp. Ch, on Tagesplan. She moves a lot.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that I saw her at Oase on August 21st.
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Poor LU, not worth a visit
A friend wanted absolutely to visit Oase today, what a bad idea, first time in 15 years of FKK that a saw such a disastrous ratio man to woman, around 5 to 6 PM there were 50 men around the pool and 0 girl, the same in the restaurant for the diner but still the management let the guys paying the entry fee without explaining the status, some guys left very angry to Shark.
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[QUOTE=Gino02;2076785]I'm pretty sure that I saw her at Oase on August 21st.[/QUOTE]No Anja. Alb on Saturday 26 August.
Madi was a star at History Basel Liestal, she could be also at Globe. Had 3 rooms at History for 149 CHF, a passionate GF, leaving a club regular to repeat with me on our first day, I remember he was not happy in lockers. Behaving on my second visit like she didn't want I go with another girl, when we were at the bar, with pretty Andrea, Amelia and Lorena. With her new hair and look, she recognized me before I did, but after Spa Formula 1 tries, I was watching Bundesliga. Around 6 pm, when I saw day team with Maya saying he doesn't come for me now, even she was pretty in the afternoon, and night team, I went to Madi who had the classiest look and smiling, I wanted we went to the kiosque above the swimming pool, but not free, so she let me choose large room 27. She asked me how long I wanted to stay? I answered: You don't remember, then she smiled. At History, she came straight to kiss me, at Oase she said: Here rate is only 50/30 mn for suck and fuck, versus 99 for GFE at History last Winter, so the rule here is extra 50 for kissing, but it will be same rate 150 and same services than at History. I know she can be high GFE level but I was too disappointed to be in room with a beggar in a Arabian market, so, like with Lucy. De Palace after our 4 first kissing rooms, after our 3 top GFE rooms at History, I answered I preferred to stop after less than 10 mn, few caresses and light kisses. She asked: But you don't want to enjoy your 30 mn? Enjoy what? Fucking a past top girl wasted as a beggar at Oase, no thanks, I answered: better you go for your new business with other guys. No kiss when I gave her 50. Later she started again to smile, but when FKK land is a small village for me, from Hamburg to Villach, at History or at Globe, she won't get anymore the faintest kopeck from me, last 50 € because as she said and she was right about this, I should have asked her before going, but I thought I had my new top girl at Oase, to repeat many times, my mistake.
After came model with blue eyes, Katrin. Bu, friendly, kissing for only 50, but no skill for kissing, no sensuality, I preferred to give up, friendly but not a woman for my expectations.
After blond Stephani came, I explained her no more room for me after my 2 first. She confirmed me kissing is for extra 50 at Oase, but she was OK for kissing for 100 for 1 hour, but not pretty enough to wake me up.
I could try gorgeous, dark blond Natali, but vulgar behavior, or a slim blond with hair to neck, or try again with smiling Elisabet. Hu who took weight, but I was bored, so I preferred to go to sleep in relax room.
Foods are good now, I like the club, but compare to LR or GT or Switzerland level, not my expectations level for girls, only average casting for me with mostly little girls behavior with no sensuality.
Club for tourists, and Sharks is going on same way for most of girls level, except a few.
NRW is far higher for who love real women.
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Small, skinny, a bit pretty Thai working on day team, was working on this Saturday. Also another Thai with darker skin, taller, with saggy tits, was working on night team.
Also some black girls.
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Thanks for the report Sirioja. It is ashame some girls try to take advantage of us if we like them it sounds Madi did there. It is also sad how more and more Oase girls see 50 e for kissing being a fair price. I bet none of these girls has ever studied microeconomics. But in the end they are the ones losing money.
Oase can be a tough nut to crack for sure, and it seems like just as much a psychology game with some as just pure same service for all. Unless you do the 1 h with all of them. But then they fail to see how Germany is not Switzerland on so many levels, and prices should never be the same. Unless they want the German clubs to die of with just 10% of the current customers.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2077469]Thanks for the report Sirioja. It is ashame some girls try to take advantage of us if we like them it sounds Madi did there. It is also sad how more and more Oase girls see 50 e for kissing being a fair price. I bet none of these girls has ever studied microeconomics. But in the end they are the ones losing money.
Oase can be a tough nut to crack for sure, and it seems like just as much a psychology game with some as just pure same service for all. Unless you do the 1 h with all of them. But then they fail to see how Germany is not Switzerland on so many levels, and prices should never be the same. Unless they want the German clubs to die of with just 10% of the current customers.[/QUOTE]With her GFE and woman potential, when I saw the day and night castings, I think I would have had 2 1 hour rooms with her on Saturday, so 200 for her, only from me, rather than her fast rooms and not always busy, and I could have returned for her of course. Instead she had 50 for 10 stressing minutes, and will never get money from me again in whole FKK land, not only in Germany but also Switzerland. I lost twice 50 on Saturday, with her and model, but very average, even friendly, Katrin. Bu, but I saved 100 about if she was as good as at History where she had really great GFE behavior.
I think Oase is good for me to eat, rest, sleep, play football, like a German local, but not my kind of girls, compare to my NRW or even at Wellcum GF, not asking any extra, most often 1 h45 for 1 h30 rate.
I don't pay extra for kissing because I judge girls behavior with me from how they kiss me: sweetly and fluently, or like robot just doing the job, because I know it s the most intimate for girls, more than BBBJ or CIM.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2077269]No Anja. Alb on Saturday 26 August.
Madi was a star at History Basel Liestal, she could be also at Globe. Had 3 rooms at History for 149 CHF, a passionate GF, leaving a club regular to repeat with me on our first day, I remember he was not happy in lockers. Behaving on my second visit like she didn't want I go with another girl, when we were at the bar, with pretty Andrea, Amelia and Lorena. With her new hair and look, she recognized me before I did, but after Spa Formula 1 tries, I was watching Bundesliga. Around 6 pm, when I saw day team with Maya saying he doesn't come for me now, even she was pretty in the afternoon, and night team, I went to Madi who had the classiest look and smiling, I wanted we went to the kiosque above the swimming pool, but not free, so she let me choose large room 27. She asked me how long I wanted to stay? I answered: You don't remember, then she smiled. At History, she came straight to kiss me, at Oase she said: Here rate is only 50/30 mn for suck and fuck, versus 99 for GFE at History last Winter, so the rule here is extra 50 for kissing, but it will be same rate 150 and same services than at History. I know she can be high GFE level but I was too disappointed to be in room with a beggar in a Arabian market, so, like with Lucy. De Palace after our 4 first kissing rooms, after our 3 top GFE rooms at History, I answered I preferred to stop after less than 10 mn, few caresses and light kisses..[/QUOTE]If I understand well you were there last Saturday, I was also there, and you got poor service, it is just because the ratio man to woman was a disaster, also full of Indian, Arabs, etc. Who are paying a lot for poor service, I had to great sessions with 2 girls that a booked in advance for several hours but I will not return to this club just because I don t feel good in a gay club.
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[QUOTE=DavisAlden2131;1968274]Made a visit to Oase today to check out how this place is compared to Sharks. After paying the entrance and getting the bathrobe on I checked out the bar area. Judging from what I could see there are a few nice girls so I would say this place is OK just from that. Unfortunately this was not my lucky day and this visit would end badly.
After chatting to a woman I was not interested in lets call her be. I continued to the next one Irina from Russia. This was a pretty hot girl and we ended up in the cinema area. While we were chatting be. Sneaks up behind and sits down with us. Now I am not really a threesome guy so I try to be nice and I turn her offer down. While this happens Irina is getting me really horny. And all of a sudden I feel BS mouth on my dick but as I tried saying before I do not want any service from her so I say no thanks and pull my dick away from her greedy face. 50 euro is demanded from me for a two second blowjob which was not requested nor wanted. That amount of money is not a big issue but this shit was just too much for me to take. I stand my ground and in a matter of seconds a bouncers is demanding me to pay 50 euro to this woman. I had enough of this place even through I was there for just 2 minutes! I grab my clothes and am ready to get the hell out of this place. In the reception there is another bouncer which comes off as pretty aggressive. Now I am stubborn to a fault here and refuse to pay while getting more angry with this whole situation. I end up asking that they call the police or let me go (hoping they would let me go). After waiting around for the police and cooling down I decide it's not worth the effort and agree to pay the money. But still they won't let me go. When the police arrived I gave be. .[/QUOTE]In all that time you didn't feel that she was opening the towel and going to suck. If she had your dick in her mouth, you pay. Who is the girl?
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How much is the going rate nowadays?
Hi, may I know how much is the going rate nowadays at the club? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=HornyCock;2078386]Hi, may I know how much is the going rate nowadays at the club? Thanks.[/QUOTE]50 E per half hour for fuck and suck. No extra for DFK / DATY (if so, she's trying to scam you), but some girls (a minority) will refuse to provide these services unless you stay minimum 1 hour. 100 E extra for anal.
This is the pricing at all the major Frankfurt FKK clubs IME (the exception is Dietzenbach).
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2078421]50 E per half hour for fuck and suck. No extra for DFK / DATY (if so, she's trying to scam you), but some girls (a minority) will refuse to provide these services unless you stay minimum 1 hour. 100 E extra for anal.
This is the pricing at all the Frankfurt FKK clubs IME.[/QUOTE]Many girls ask for extra 50 for kissing, at Oase, and not sure at all they are top kisser. From my experiences in FKK land, top kissers don't ask for extra for kissing, because it's just easy job for them who are skillful.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2078329]In all that time you didn't feel that she was opening the towel and going to suck. If she had your dick in her mouth, you pay. Who is the girl?[/QUOTE]You are asking a question about a post from last November, dude?
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2078329]In all that time you didn't feel that she was opening the towel and going to suck. If she had your dick in her mouth, you pay. Who is the girl?[/QUOTE]I don t believe that this report a a true one, or the guy must have some mental issues, always same advice if you are not well know in the club it is better to go directly with the girl to the room and start with a 50 euro session and see in the room how the chemistry will operate no need to speak long time on the bar etc. Go to the room for 50 euros that is all. If you negotiated something at the bar and after in the room you don t feel good with her for any reasons, smell, not well shaved, etc. You will not be able to come back to a 50 euro session if you negotiate 100 or even more. In the recent months I explained that to many mongers in the clubs and at the beginning some of them told me no I want to negotiate everything before and when they tried my solution that find that it far better.
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Seems like I chose the worst period of Oase history to visit for the first time, with this damn law and everything. I'm gonna be there tomorrow and I was aiming for fuck+BBBJ for 50 E, from what I've read here it's going to be tough. At least I'm prepared for the aggressive upselling I've been reading so I'm going to try and stand my ground. Are Sharks and World in the same situation? If so I'll spend my time elsewhere Sat and Sun.
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[QUOTE=Mangga;2078598]Seems like I chose the worst period of Oase history to visit for the first time, with this damn law and everything. I'm gonna be there tomorrow and I was aiming for fuck+BBBJ for 50 E, from what I've read here it's going to be tough. At least I'm prepared for the aggressive upselling I've been reading so I'm going to try and stand my ground. Are Sharks and World in the same situation? If so I'll spend my time elsewhere Sat and Sun.[/QUOTE]For only BJ and fucking, no problem for 50 at Oase. Problem is about kissing, some other foreplay, and woman sensuality. Little girls are not woman yet.
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[QUOTE=Mangga;2078598]Seems like I chose the worst period of Oase history to visit for the first time, with this damn law and everything. I'm gonna be there tomorrow and I was aiming for fuck+BBBJ for 50 E, from what I've read here it's going to be tough. At least I'm prepared for the aggressive upselling I've been reading so I'm going to try and stand my ground. Are Sharks and World in the same situation? If so I'll spend my time elsewhere Sat and Sun.[/QUOTE]I'm just back from Oase. Girls only started to arrive after 4 pm. Of course tomorrow Friday may be different but don't pop your Viagra before you've seen what is available. LU much weaker than Shark's same time yesterday. Still if it's your very 1st time you may still be impressed. If upsold you can try the line "ok let's do it for 70 then". It has worked for me, especially as I was often planning to tip 20 Euro for good service anyway.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2078684]If upsold you can try the line "ok let's do it for 70 then". It has worked for me, especially as I was often planning to tip 20 Euro for good service anyway.[/QUOTE]If you tell her that you will do it for 70, that is essentially a verbal promise to pay her 70, regardless of how well the service is rendered. Quite different than a tip, which should be optional and given at your discretion after the service has been rendered.
Just go to Wellcum in Austria and pay 70 EUR for 30 minutes.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2078700]If you tell her that you will do it for 70, that is essentially a verbal promise to pay her 70, regardless of how well the service is rendered. Quite different than a tip, which should be optional and given at your discretion after the service has been rendered.
Just go to Wellcum in Austria and pay 70 EUR for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]But at Wellcum, girls are prettier than at Oase and some are really GFE, kissing, even Italians are not demanding for kissing. For me, 70 with my Wellcum Eve was less expensive than 50 with most of Oase girls. No more Mady for me, even I know she has high potential. A model like Katrin. Bu, even friendly, but low level, Oase level for tourists.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2078684]I'm just back from Oase. Girls only started to arrive after 4 pm. Of course tomorrow Friday may be different but don't pop your Viagra before you've seen what is available. LU much weaker than Shark's same time yesterday. Still if it's your very 1st time you may still be impressed. If upsold you can try the line "ok let's do it for 70 then". It has worked for me, especially as I was often planning to tip 20 Euro for good service anyway.[/QUOTE]Sorry but as already reported several times there is none FKK today in Germany that can provide a better LU than Shark in term of quantity and quality. Oase has a good LU but not so large and strong than Shark and also like last Saturday it was a real disaster so many man for few girls even some nice one but at a moment the management of Oase Mario has to explain the situation to the newcomers. Personally I will not return to Oase in the coming months I don t like to feel like I am visiting a gay club.
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Thank you for your answers gentlemen, nah for standard service I won't pay more than 50€ no matter what, as I said I will hold my ground, I'd rather get out from there with not a single session rather than paying more thanks to a stupid law that nobody really cares about. P.S. Is food included with the entrance price at Oase?
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[QUOTE=KCQuestor;2078454]You are asking a question about a post from last November, dude?[/QUOTE]Apparently so. Didn't pay attention, LOL.
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Entry is 50 before 4 pm, 70 after. Free foods and soft drinks included, even fruit juices with diner. Oase is quite good FKK restaurant now, Sakura of Hessen.
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[QUOTE=Mangga;2078739]Thank you for your answers gentlemen, nah for standard service I won't pay more than 50 no matter what, as I said I will hold my ground, I'd rather get out from there with not a single session rather than paying more thanks to a stupid law that nobody really cares about. P.S. Is food included with the entrance price at Oase?[/QUOTE]I was just there for 6 weeks, everyday FKK and 1-2 sessions.
99.999 % of the sessions were 50 e, there were just a couple different situations where I elected something extra, but that was not their idea, nor for anything basic that is included ordinarily!!
Just remember the man dictates the price.
Don't let them try to make you think you are in Sweden.
Social inversion will only work if you allow it.
Hookers love to scam weak men!
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[QUOTE=Mangga;2078739]Thank you for your answers gentlemen, nah for standard service I won't pay more than 50 no matter what, as I said I will hold my ground, I'd rather get out from there with not a single session rather than paying more thanks to a stupid law that nobody really cares about.[/QUOTE]This is the correct attitude. Bravo sir.
You should also consider extending a couple of your sessions to one hour if the service meets or exceeds your expectations, especially during the beginning of your visit as this helps establish your reputation as someone who will sometimes take an extended session when he is happy. If you start off with nothing but 50 E sessions, word will quickly spread that you are a "just a fiddy guy. " Why not keep them confused by occasionally extending one or two of your sessions when things are going really well? -- if your budget will allow this.
The trick is finding the good girls and avoiding the bad ones, admittedly, a sometimes tricky affair. From your post, I believe you are up to the task however. If you manage to do this, you will surely have a mighty fine time. If you mess up and accidentally get a bad apple once or twice, don't be too discouraged. Just get back on that horse and start looking for one of the good girls again.
I assure you that there are plenty of good ones there but unfortunately, there are a number of bad apples too (often the more aggressive ones, but this characteristic alone is not sufficient to properly sort the good ones from the bad ones).
Good luck and viel Spa!
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Back again
After a year break from FKK scene the finances and opportunity has a risen for another week long voyage to Germany. Should I go after the car fair is possible? And is the leaning towards the sharks or oase these days for ultimate experience and most sexy attractive girls or is evened out as usual? Finally is covered BJ now a standard in oase and sharks and the whole of Germany? Sorry haven't had time to rtff. Cheers to all sv.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2078793]After a year break from FKK scene the finances and opportunity has a risen for another week long voyage to Germany. Should I go after the car fair is possible? And is the leaning towards the sharks or oase these days for ultimate experience and most sexy attractive girls or is evened out as usual? Finally is covered BJ now a standard in oase and sharks and the whole of Germany? Sorry haven't had time to rtff. Cheers to all sv.[/QUOTE]Yes, this will be great time to visit. Which of these two clubs is your favorite varies based on personal preference. If you do not have a personal favorite yet, then you will enjoy visiting both enough to decide which you prefer.
Don't worry about recent changes in Germany. You will have an outstanding time as long as you don't act like a newbie. If you happen to chance across someone isn't willing to deliver the level of service you have come to learn to love and expect, then there are plenty of others who are more than willing to step in their place and pleasure you for a chance to relieve you of your Euros.
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Oase on 30th August
I was at Oase today, just one session:
Diana (Dominican) - cute face, tight body with a pronounced (but not fat) ass & fake see-cup tits. She agreed to kissing with a full-hour session, and it was technically LFK but it wasn't GFE-type kissing (she just did the tongue-flicking thing). I ended up popping twice in the hour, was a good session but nothing crazy. Rating 6/10, would repeat.
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First trip to Wellcum
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2078714]But at Wellcum, girls are prettier than at Oase and some are really GFE, kissing, even Italians are not demanding for kissing. For me, 70 with my Wellcum Eve was less expensive than 50 with most of Oase girls. No more Mady for me, even I know she has high potential. A model like Katrin. Bu, even friendly, but low level, Oase level for tourists.[/QUOTE]I agree your comment. Wellcum LU casting is stronger than Oase. And it also higher than GT at Vienna in optics. But my favourite is hot naked body shape with natural big boobs and pretty juicy ass. Today some top still be reached at Oase and Shark. Pickup 1 HR (140 E) must provide hot horny satisfaction. I have taken two sessions. They have a hot body shape with pretty juicy ass, but silicone tits not in good shape. Anyway I must repeat at next summer.
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[QUOTE=Gino02;2076785]I'm pretty sure that I saw her at Oase on August 21st.[/QUOTE]So Anja is still at Oase and not Sharks or Bumsalp?
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[QUOTE=NF4591;2078799]I was at Oase today, just one session:
Diana (Dominican) - cute face, tight body with a pronounced (but not fat) ass & fake see-cup tits. She agreed to kissing with a full-hour session, and it was technically LFK but it wasn't GFE-type kissing (she just did the tongue-flicking thing). I ended up popping twice in the hour, was a good session but nothing crazy. Rating 6/10, would repeat.[/QUOTE]Remarkable butt, protruding but tight. How I would like to put my face between those ass cheeks again! I have her on my black list though. She rejected my Sagami and only allowed "looking no licking" when in 69. Typical nay-sayer as far as I'm concerned.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2077269]I could try gorgeous, dark blond Natali, but vulgar behavior, or a slim blond with hair to neck, or try again with smiling Elisabet. Hu who took weight, but I was bored, so I preferred to go to sleep in relax room.[/QUOTE]Funny that you say that regarding current Oase Natali. To me this new Natali ruining the name of fantastic old Natali from 2014 who is now at Wellcum. Yet you preferred the old Ina over new Ina as well. Opposite to me also. And you prefer hungarian Elisabeth over hungarian Zeanett LOL.
When it comes to lineup I expect oase to improve throughout September. August had too many top girls away on vacation.
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Oase on 2nd September
I was at Oase yesterday, arrived in early afternoon, before going to Sharks later in the night. I had 2 sessions at Oase:
May (Phil) - she's a regular provider for me each time I'm at Oase over the the weekend. She's great at GFE, spent 1. 5. Hours, rating 7/10, would repeat.
Alexa (Ro.) - she's a definite pro, and she made sure to hash out all the financial details before we left the couches (1 hour for 100 eur, with BLS and not to include kissing or FIV). In the room she didn't seem to like that I started my stopwatch (which I always do), but maybe she was joking. She really played up a dominant role, where she kept saying 'fuck you' and telling me to shut up because she was going to blow & fuck the way that she wanted. That might be a turn-on to some people, but was just ok for me. Her BJ was not bad, but CG was VERY good. I couldn't keep from cumming, because she did a good job at making me finish. After the session, she was very warm and friendly, and when she saw me in the open area afterwards, she was much more friendly. I'm glad I had one session with her, as it seemed to open her up, but her style was not really what I look for. Rating 6/10, would only repeat as a backup if I have trouble finding a girl I like.
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[QUOTE=Checkers1;2079706]So Anja is still at Oase and not Sharks or Bumsalp?[/QUOTE]Not seen at Oase where she would be one of the prettiest among average casting for look. Like at Sharks, quantity don t make quality, compare to big Wellcum but also small Harmony with less than 20 girls. At least at Sharks, still few high level girls without upselling and casting is also improving, when only foods improved at Oase, where a top GFE girl in Switzerland like Mady play now to try to fuck You, even I should have asked her before room, but only 50 small € for her new Oase behavior and when FKK land from Hamburg to Zurich and nearly Tarvisio for Wellcum, is only a small village for me and my car which know all the ways on day or at night, finding girls who moved to Wellcum or Switzerland or Hamburg, not anymore the faintest kopeck when I don't trust anymore, even I know she can be a real GFE.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2079775]Funny that you say that regarding current Oase Natali. To me this new Natali ruining the name of fantastic old Natali from 2014 who is now at Wellcum. Yet you preferred the old Ina over new Ina as well. Opposite to me also. And you prefer hungarian Elisabeth over hungarian Zeanett LOL.
When it comes to lineup I expect oase to improve throughout September. August had too many top girls away on vacation.[/QUOTE]Blond Latvian Ina or Czech Elizabet were not top models, but they were real women for behavior and sex and very honest, what were Oase girls before becoming upselling teeny land. I desire women, I don t want to fuck schoolgirls with no woman sensuality nor sexual skill.
On July 2013, Ina. Lat worked at GT and respected rate: 50 for first 30 mn and 25 for all other 30 mn. You could fuck her for 3 hours for 175 with a beautiful smile from a real sweet candy.
After my 10 mn room number 27 with Mady when I refused to touch her when she proposed to take care of me for my 30 mn, I did the same with Lucy at Palace for our fifth room, I ran away from kissing upselling and 2 hours later, cleaning the autobahn left line, I was with GFE Emily at Velbert. Kate was not happy about. At Oase, Mady said I was fucking her mind, then I noticed curvy, big tits which look natural, dark blond Natali, but I can t go with such behavior girl, rubbing on Turkish all night, I m not excited by public exhibition girls as I said to my highest level regular and she was my best girl, for 6 months with about 40 1 h30 or 2 hours rooms, a real 23 yo Romanian woman, but after my behavior and manners present for her birthday, I stopped and refused to return to her, even I miss her woman sensuality and our sexual games. She lengthen a lot her stay at home when she said going on holidays for only 1 week and coming back to make money she learned to like so much, to become ready for anything with monster, Turkish, Albanian pimp coming to LR, as I said to her, then I said to her I couldn't kiss her anymore after such guys. She was the busiest at LR, paid for long time companionship on couch, she would never accept from any other client what I dare to say to her about her new way for business. Maybe my best present for her was if she decide to stay at home, at least since 2 months instead of 1 week.
About Elizabet. Hu, more dark blond and with more weight now, she can keep on smiling since end of 2014 when she tried to get 50 more after she wanted to chat in room after sex. Mady was also smiling later, but she can also smile at History or Globe.
After Wellcum on August, Harmony is now on top for woman looks lovers like me, less than 20 girls, but so lovely behavior, they are used to locals, not to fuck tourists. Far higher level than Oase or Sharks for casting, even higher for me than Wellcum, even I miss my Wellcum passionate Romanian Eve, but found a new passionate Romanian little mum in Seevetal. I think I became a real Romanian women lover and they feel it.
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Last trip to Oase this year
[QUOTE=MikeTk1974;2060932]Yesterday I took three sessions. One of them is the popular natural boobs with blond wavy hair. I don't ask her name and home country. She has many clients in queue. In case any buddy know her. Kindly let me know. Today I visit Sharks which has more boobs on offer. Sharks maybe number one choice in this summer.[/QUOTE]Today Fri visit Oase. Next Wed I back HK. Take four sessions. The lineup is weaker than last trip and Sharks in terms of my favorite natural boobs and pretty juicy ass.
Third is Hu blond smoking gal with real be cup and pretty juicy ass. OMG, she mislead fuck her ass. I don't know. Damage extra 100 E. Damn!
The fourth is brunette Ro (two years here) with big natural boobs and huge bubble butts. DATY extra 50 E! Here is Hamburg? Anyway just try once. And then she is also a clock watcher. Say me over 30 mins. Extra 50 e. Offer me oil massage. OK! OK! Never repeat her.
My favourite Ro tall busty blond smoking model (Lily) is not still here. Whatapp her and she is in Romania. I miss her twice in past summer. Next must visit before summer holiday.
IMO, I prefer Welcum at this moment. Even if it is a bit expensive but I got 100% satisfaction from sex. Here WGs not rushed and clock watcher. Provide quality of services.
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2 girls
Hit up Oase a couple weeks ago on Thursday and first had Laura. She is a plastic blow up doll, fake tits, lips but spoke good english and had a perky personality. Told her I wanted an hour and I never really like to talk about specific services because that kills the mood. In the room we go and she tries to upsell me to 250-300 and I'm like WTF? I said hell to the no and said look with DFK and BBJ I'll give you 150 for the hour. She said ok and proceeded with half ass affection to be honest. She could ride a dick for sure with fury, however her kissing and BJ were average at best. I did lick her pussy and it was shaved and clean which I wouldn't have done otherwise. Overall I like her look as she has some weight on her with a big ass, tits and lips, but average session.
Next I took a tanned, tall, skinny Romanian with dark hair. I knew I should have done the report while I still remembered her, but oh well. She didn't speak much english at all, but had nice tits so I said ok let's go. Didn't like to kiss and was very mechanical. Had a nice body to be honest and all I wanted to do was just bust with her licking the balls and strokin me off. She did take direction good at the end so wasn't all bad, but not much affection or GFE to say the least. Crap can't remember her name at all. Which isn't a good sign.
Got a cold my last 2 days which pissed me off for I was planning on hitting up sharks and Palace, but needed to rest as I was going to Costa Rica and Brazil for some marathon fuck sessions. Frustrating, but that was the right decision.
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When is the lingerie day
Hi there,
When is lingerie day at Oase these days?
Thank you all.
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[QUOTE=CaliMan;2084230]Got a cold my last 2 days which pissed me off for I was planning on hitting up sharks and Palace, but needed to rest as I was going to Costa Rica and Brazil for some marathon fuck sessions. Frustrating, but that was the right decision.[/QUOTE]Flush your mouth, then gargle your throat with listerine zero or similar mouthwash immediately after each session or possibly even inside the room once you finished. Don't be shy, too much coughing and sneezing around, spreads like brush fire, even with light lip-only kissing.
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Visit at Oase this weekend
Friday Saturday visit.
So I was lucky enough to be able to spare two days to get to Oase, always lots of fun. I got there just before 4 pm to benefit from lower price. Funny thing in the shower, an asian guy tried to strike a conversation and told me about his job, all meanwhile thoroughly cleaning his private parts (I really didn't see where this was going so I politely excused himself.
First of all, for some reason this time I found the installations maintenance was really lacking, like never before:
- after great improvements last year, the food quality has dropped a little (although still better than before). The pizza is definitely not as good as it used to be, less ingredients on it and smaller.
- the rooms were not maintained at all, most of them were dirty with sticky stains on the mattresses. In one session we entered the room and there were paper towels and Kleenexes lying around, empty drinks, cigarettes, and. Sticky stains on the bed. The girl felt the need to apologize and we switched rooms. It was a bit better but still, you didn't want to touch the part of the bed that had no towel. I have never seen that at Oase before nor at any other respectable clubs.
That said onto the girls:
- met a Ro called Elen, great service, great personality. Clear hair, tall, thin, maybe be cups? No fuss in the room, you get what you ask for, and with a nice smile. Once you agree on the service at the beginning, no upsell. Was amongst good sessions, would repeat. If I can catch her, she seemed very popular.
- after food and some rest met Valentina, nice blonde, nice boobs, very sexy, great looks. Good skills in the room, very giggly! Had a fun time.
- Gorgeous girl, dirty blonde, man made boobs (I think). If you ask her where she is from, she will tell you, with a heavy Romanian accent, that she is "from west Germany" LOL. I asked her for an hour but she actually down sold me! First time that ever happens. Maybe she had other clients waiting. We agreed on a half hour with CIM. Great skills in the room, outstanding BJ technique and pretty excited with the sex. It was good, but the whole thing really felt like "bing-bang-hasta-la-vista". No repeat.
- Finally met Denisa. This one will you, still with a Romanian accent, that she is from Spain. Interesting. Anyways, she is a short petite brunette with dark skin, very funny and easy to get along with. Had a fun session with her, she is not complicated. Would repeat definitely.
Overall another great visit at Oase. A little disappointed with the state of the club but maybe it was because too many people on week end. Will see next time.
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[QUOTE=Wooow200;2084789]Hi there,
When is lingerie day at Oase these days?
Thank you all.[/QUOTE]Still waiting.
Please help.
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I never had any refusals from Diana, whether tongue kissing, using my own condoms, DATY, etc. Last session was a few months ago.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2079775]Funny that you say that regarding current Oase Natali. To me this new Natali ruining the name of fantastic old Natali from 2014 who is now at Wellcum. Yet you preferred the old Ina over new Ina as well. Opposite to me also. And you prefer hungarian Elisabeth over hungarian Zeanett LOL.
When it comes to lineup I expect oase to improve throughout September. August had too many top girls away on vacation.[/QUOTE]Even Elizabeth is a bit thick these days, still busiest girl in the club. She has plenty of regulars. She can perform very well if she wants and the face looks and tits is still getting guys. Probably not motivated by a 50.
New Ina. Ha ha. Face 8, body 9, upsell girl and service sucks. Rather lacks sucking. LOL.
BJ scores 4 and duration of BJ scores 3. Kissing scores 5. OK for DATY. Can she compete with old Ina? Not even slightly unless the guy just wants optics and needs no service.
If old Ina returned she would be busy girl. Not a lot of strong competition among the best looking girls I suspect.
Very pretty black girl Melody was very good GFE and service for me in absence of some of my regular girls.
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[QUOTE=Nympholepsy;2087047]New Ina. Ha ha. Face 8, body 9, upsell girl and service sucks. Rather lacks sucking. LOL.
BJ scores 4 and duration of BJ scores 3. Kissing scores 5. OK for DATY. Can she compete with old Ina? Not even slightly unless the guy just wants optics and needs no service.[/QUOTE]YMMV. Body 10, face 9, BJ 7, Ball Licking 5, DATY 8, Digits 8, DFK 8, Sex 7, no upsell.
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[QUOTE=Nympholepsy;2087047]Even Elizabeth is a bit thick these days, still busiest girl in the club. She has plenty of regulars. She can perform very well if she wants and the face looks and tits is still getting guys. Probably not motivated by a 50.
New Ina. Ha ha. Face 8, body 9, upsell girl and service sucks. Rather lacks sucking. LOL.
BJ scores 4 and duration of BJ scores 3. Kissing scores 5. OK for DATY. Can she compete with old Ina? Not even slightly unless the guy just wants optics and needs no service.
If old Ina returned she would be busy girl. Not a lot of strong competition among the best looking girls I suspect.
Very pretty black girl Melody was very good GFE and service for me in absence of some of my regular girls.[/QUOTE]And you can you perform very well without any blue pill? Are you 25 years old without any belly, nice skin a top guy?
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Old Ina was not my type. If the girl doesn't turn me on, service doesn't matter. We want both. New Ina seems a bit inexperienced, but has potential. And YMMV with her I believe too.
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If old Ina returned she would be busy girl. Not a lot of strong competition among the best looking girls I suspect.
[/QUOTE]Old Ina (Lat) makes my Top 5 all time favorites list. It's too bad that she has a new life now (but good for her I suppose). I'm fairly certain that you and I aren't the only ones who still pine for her.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2087560]Old Ina (Lat) makes my Top 5 all time favorites list. It's too bad that she has a new life now (but good for her I suppose). I'm fairly certain that you and I aren't the only ones who still pine for her.[/QUOTE]Even I miss to speak a bit of Russian with her, she seemed to like sweet Russian words for sex, I also miss her kindness, sweetness and honesty, not a top model but kind of woman I love, always a bit shy, even skillful with me. She started long time ago at Globe, so, like for all girls I liked, I can just wish her a better life than brothels life. Riga may be a better place to enjoy her life. So many beauties there.
I didn't notice new Ina for my few last visits and didn't see any elegant, top beauty, unfortunately. How looks like new Ina? Where does she stay in club?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2087674]I didn't notice new Ina for my few last visits and didn't see any elegant, top beauty, unfortunately. How looks like new Ina? Where does she stay in club?[/QUOTE]She normally works daytime. Or did at least this spring / early summer when I saw her on 3 visits. Like all daytime girls they roam around. But a few times I saw her in the couch group far at the back on the left side. She seemed a bit new at first and was not the kind of girl that make approaches a lot. So I think I didn't really notice her that well before on my 2nd or 3rd visit when she was there either. 1.60 petite fake blonde. Kind of same body type as Laura but with bigger natural tits. Less experienced than Laura though. But I think most people who likes one of them likes the other one too.
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Ina at Oase
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2087341]YMMV. Body 10, face 9, BJ 7, Ball Licking 5, DATY 8, Digits 8, DFK 8, Sex 7, no upsell.[/QUOTE]This Ina at Oase from experience has a tendency to suck only the tip of the cock and she sucks not in a good way too. Be warned.
Okay she does look good. But if you like some service from the lookers then maybe Ina is not for you.
If you like Ina's knob only suck then she is your girl. For me I like something a bit more deep throat in style to encompass the whole shaft.
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As I said. YMMV. Her BJ wasn't that bad or superficial.
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Bitumen is right about the knob only. I took that as inexperience. But perhaps she will improve on that. It was the only downside I experienced at least.
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In between my Palace and Sharks visits, squeezed in a trip to Oase last week. Definitely the worst line up of the three. Only a handful from a large pool of ladies were of any interest to me.
First fuck of the day went to Nina from Romania. Hot slim cute petite spinner. No visible tattoos. Thought it was going to be a good session until she wanted 50e extra to lick and suck my nipples. Big turn off. Reverted to a standard session just to fuck her for the optics and cut my losses.
Was thinking of calling it a day after that short session but lo and behold in came Kathy (ex-World / Samya Brittany). Hadn't seen her in a long while so went with her. Saved the day.
Howie.
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Coming from a former big Oase fan as I suppose I have been, I feel the current upselling has surpassed my red line of great worry. The club gets big minus score from me going forward. At least with reduced lineups it can be very worrisome when the ones present upsell badly. It suddenly becomes a sellers market when you only have 4-5 doable girls in a lineup like now. When a club has upsellers you pretty much need a large pool of girls to pick from to make it a buyers market. So going forward I will probably call the club before visiting to ask for some of my favorites. Otherwise sharks is a much safer option it seems.
Girls like Lara, Adelle (small), Estephania, Carla, Brianna, Cora, Suginella were there. With Sarah and two friends skipping the club to go partying after showing their nice club wears. Probably asking higher rates at the discos.
So about half the girls I know there were missing.
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Oase visits
I was in Oase a couple times during my trip to Europe this past few weeks. I thought I found the lineup to be good. Though I don't see that many new faces but the ones there were decent enough to keep me occupied.
[B]Anotnia[/B] - finally got a chance to go with her as she leave early and I normally arrived late. I had a great time with her. She is back to Romania now for the holiday.
[B]Chayenne[/B] - also my first time with her, she is very funny and a little wild.
[B]Beatrice[/B] - red hair, be, ROM, day shift, normally walk around with Lara, I find her very pretty and she is a sweet girl. Must repeat.
[B]Lara[/B] - she is probably the busiest girl while I was there. I rarely see her on the floor, other than when she was eating.
[B]Vicky[/B] - looks like she got a new tattoo on her arm, her personality doesn't fit the tattoo crazy people. She is nice and sweet. Great to see her again.
[B]Veronica[/B] - my favorite girl in the club.
[B]Kati[/B] - Veronica's best friend, since the club was slow, she was not so busy.
[B]Elizabeth[/B] - wow, I have not been to the club for a while, she got chubby! But I still find her attractive.
[B]Roxanna[/B] - she has a red hair now? I think I like her more in blonde.
I was told that the place was not so busy during the messe. There were supposedly 200 girls there. So much that there were no place to sit for girls in the lounge. They also ran out of towels and only had one per room (ewww). I also found the kitchen full of flies on all my visit. So much that I was scared to eat the normal food and ordered a few pizzas.
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Oase Daytime lineup
I'll be making my next trip to FKK land in a few weeks. I'm planning on going to Oase in the daytime and Sharks at night. How's the lineup in the daytime at Oase?
I'm hoping to come across some of the black and Latina women while there. I'm also considering going to Artemis looking for black and Latina women. Any further advice for the best places to go for black and Latina girls please share. I appreciate all you guy's feedback.
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Ina ro
[QUOTE=Pistons;2088245]Bitumen is right about the knob only. I took that as inexperience. But perhaps she will improve on that. It was the only downside I experienced at least.[/QUOTE]We can always try and try again to make sure with Ina.
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[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2091891]I'll be making my next trip to FKK land in a few weeks. I'm planning on going to Oase in the daytime and Sharks at night. How's the lineup in the daytime at Oase?
I'm hoping to come across some of the black and Latina women while there. I'm also considering going to Artemis looking for black and Latina women. Any further advice for the best places to go for black and Latina girls please share. I appreciate all you guy's feedback.[/QUOTE]By this year, I have visited Oase and Sharks by weekday daytime. Check in by 14:30. Left before 19:30. Found some Latina and black gals at both club in mid Jul. Less found at Oase in early Sep before IAA. They will be available after IAA. Found a quantity of Latina and black gals in Frankfurt RLD. I have picked up one fake blond natural busty Dom. Rep. Just want to play her boobs. Don't expect service level.
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[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2091891]
I'm hoping to come across some of the black and Latina women while there. I'm also considering going to Artemis looking for black and Latina women. Any further advice for the best places to go for black and Latina girls please share. I appreciate all you guy's feedback.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to Oase (that was July or early August), there was a trio of girls from Ghana who gave really good service, if not the most beautiful.
One named Tina with three stripes of "tribal scars" on her cheeks (a bit like the Adidas logo), one with a strange name like "Blessings", and the last one, the curviest member, which I did not personnally try, but the German guy I was having a drink with took her twice in two days.
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Zina. Queen. Naomi. Three good black girls at Oase.
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Many girls have been missing from Oase for my last 2 visits. Has anyone seem Denisa, Szanett, Laura recently? And is Ina still around? Haven't seen her since June either on my trips. Only read she was back during the messe. But she was not there a week and a half later.
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Ina was around at IAA, didn't spot her this week. Laura / Livia will not return any time soon. Many new girls around, quite impressive line-up. Had sessions with 4 new girls, all were good without any negotiations before taking them to the room. Who the fuck is Szanett? Or Jeanette?
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2093896]Ina was around at IAA, didn't spot her this week. Laura / Livia will not return any time soon. Many new girls around, quite impressive line-up. Had sessions with 4 new girls, all were good without any negotiations before taking them to the room. Who the fuck is Szanett? Or Jeanette?[/QUOTE]Best LU in Germany are Oase and Shark I am writing it for month and month, also it is possible to get discount tickets so those clubs are not so more expensive than the cheap clubs offering nothing or the risk to get very sick with AO.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2093896]Ina was around at IAA, didn't spot her this week. Laura / Livia will not return any time soon. Many new girls around, quite impressive line-up. Had sessions with 4 new girls, all were good without any negotiations before taking them to the room. Who the fuck is Szanett? Or Jeanette?[/QUOTE]Szanett (or Jeanett for those wanting to insult Hungarian language): Aprox 1.60 Hungarian blonde (at least she has been fake blonde for as long as I've known or seen her).
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Visited Oase Saturday October 14.
I visited Oase on Saturday night and let me say I was disappointed in the talent there but than again I have been with all the stunners over the last couple of years so I seen a limited selection in my eyes but it is what it is. I ended up a tight body slim / thick Romanian with brown hair who gave excellent service in the room no up sell and finished off with a CIM. After my session the Thai woman there gave me an excellent massage Thais are the best in the world when it comes to this. On the food in Oase it very bad they need to hire a new chef and even the pizza is there also. I thought Oase food was good the last year or so when they open the new restaurant are but my 3 visits there there this year in 2017 the food has sucked and reminded me like it was 5 years ago. Oase is must to when in Frankfurt and Oase and Sharks are top 2 favorite FKK's now and I don't ever see myself going back to Palace it's been like 2 years since I was there and Mainhattan has fell off in my eyes my last visit there so I don't see me going back there anytime soon.
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Agreed on the lineup Saturday being weak and the food sucking. The only saving grace for new was two of my regular we're there reducing the suckage. Ellie RO brunette with fair skin and nice natural see cups can be a sweetheart in the room, and I've been a longtime fane of Yellena. Also fair skin brunette with natural a cuos who says she's 1/2 Russian 1/2 ukarainian. We generally do 2+ HR rooms so ymmv on shorter sessions, but with me she always delivers.
Did 1 other room with a new to me girl. So memorable I can't remember anything about it right now LOL.
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Sunday was also very very slow, but ended up having a decent time overall with one dud.
Claudia blonde RO slim with some tats and natural bee cups. Went for an hour with kissing (LFK) and DATY. Surprised her with an orgasm for her during DATY, and then sex in 2-3 positions before I popped. Repeat? Yes.
Ann tall not slim but not fat RO brunette with natural bee / see cups. Friend of Ellie from the day before. Decent session with kissing but no DATY (I didn't ask, wasn't offered) but good passionate sex in multiple positions. She's friendly and no upsell in the room, but did ask for a tip after. I told her next time if she's good. Repeat? Probably not.
Daria / dallia- something starting with a the. 21 yo brunette RO who's been at oase 5 months. She's slim with high wide hip bones that make her ass look bigger than it is, but she's trim. Very flirty and funny outside the room, but mostly a cold fish in the room. LFK and DATY. DATY was a disaster she literally just laid there and didn't move or make a sound. Sex wasn't much better, just robotic and going through the motions. Repeat? No.
Final room was a repeat with yellena.
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[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2095241]
Claudia blonde RO slim with some tats and natural bee cups. Went for an hour with kissing (LFK) and DATY. Surprised her with an orgasm for her during DATY, and then sex in 2-3 positions before I popped. Repeat? Yes.[/QUOTE]That could have been Claudia / Denisa from World.
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[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2095241]Sunday was also very very slow, but ended up having a decent time overall with one dud.
Claudia blonde RO slim with some tats and natural bee cups. Went for an hour with kissing (LFK) and DATY. Surprised her with an orgasm for her during DATY, and then sex in 2-3 positions before I popped. Repeat? Yes.
Ann tall not slim but not fat RO brunette with natural bee / see cups. Friend of Ellie from the day before. Decent session with kissing but no DATY (I didn't ask, wasn't offered) but good passionate sex in multiple positions. She's friendly and no upsell in the room, but did ask for a tip after. I told her next time if she's good. Repeat? Probably not.
Daria / dallia- something starting with a the. 21 yo brunette RO who's been at oase 5 months. She's slim with high wide hip bones that make her ass look bigger than it is, but she's trim. Very flirty and funny outside the room, but mostly a cold fish in the room. LFK and DATY. DATY was a disaster she literally just laid there and didn't move or make a sound. Sex wasn't much better, just robotic and going through the motions. Repeat? No.
Final room was a repeat with yellena.[/QUOTE]May be you were not able to find about what she is looking for most probably cash.
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Yesterday visit
Went to Oase yesterday afternoon / evening. The place was pretty busy. Quite a lot of guys and girls. I was surprised I was charged 50 euro entry as I though I'd seen on the website that it was 70. I found the girls incredibly pushy. Probably the most pushy out of any FKK I've been to. Even the palace was not as pushy. I found I couldn't sit in the main lounge without someone constantly coming up to me. It was a bit of a turn off really that I couldn't just chill there. I thought ID been there before but now pretty sure it must have been a different one. The back yard is huge. Must be great in summer. I ended up seeing a dark haired Serbian girl first and then a tall Russian blondish girl. Sorry bad with names. Both provided good service but neither did BBBJ which I guess is due to the new laws.
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After a more than 1 year break, I paid a visit to Oase, but only because it was Dessous Tag in World and Sharks. I was pleasantly surprised that the entry fee was now only 40 euros. That makes Oase cheaper than World and Sharks even on their discount days!
However, I was quickly reminded why I had been avoiding Oase. Right from the first instance I entered the lounge, girl after girl descended upon me to pester me to have a session. And as before, the same ones would come back again and again. There were not many pretty girls in the early afternoon, mainly the same old faces and many irritating and unattractive newer ones.
I thought this day would be a washout, but fortunately, some pretty new girls arrived in late afternoon. I had good sessions with 3 new (to me) slim pretty girls. Monica, Sonya, and Amanda; and also with my old acquaintance from World, Denisa.
I can't decide whether I would to visit Oase again in the future. I find the pestering very annoying, and my 4 good sessions could have been pure luck.
Also, many girls now cover their tops and have towels wrapped around their bottoms. Looks like the discipline to keep them nude is gone. (Marsha, who used to maintain this discipline at Oase, is now doing a good job at this in World.) So, evenon Tuesday, Oase seems to be having a Dessous Tag likein World or Sharks.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2096078] I was pleasantly surprised that the entry fee was now only 40 euros. That makes Oase cheaper than World and Sharks even on their discount days![/QUOTE]Is it 40 euro every day?
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2093896]Laura / Livia will not return any time soon. [/QUOTE]She will be away for many many months. Whether she returns will depend on new family life!
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BigAuMan
[QUOTE=BigAuMan;2096051]I ended up seeing a dark haired Serbian girl first and then a tall Russian blondish girl. Sorry bad with names. Both provided good service but neither did BBBJ which I guess is due to the new laws.[/QUOTE]Were your sessions at the base price of 50 euro each or something else?
Maybe the base price session invokes the basic service received?
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Livia Laura
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2096279]She will be away for many many months. Whether she returns will depend on new family life![/QUOTE]Livia Laura is sure looking like she is enjoying her new family life.
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[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2095241] DATY was a disaster she literally just laid there and didn't move or make a sound. [/QUOTE]All the FKK girls I've DATY have been like this. Are they more active with you?
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Retired?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2096293]Livia Laura is sure looking like she is enjoying her new family life.[/QUOTE]So, Livia Laura is retired? I will miss her sweet pink little asshole.
FiddyCent.
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Livia Laura
[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2096315]So, Livia Laura is retired? I will miss her sweet pink little asshole.
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]It would seem so.
If you were lucky you have memories in soft copy of her cute and tight pink ass hole for prosperity.
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I wonder who she spread her legs for.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2096318]It would seem so.
If you were lucky you have memories in soft copy of her cute and tight pink ass hole for prosperity.[/QUOTE]That I do Bitumen! She was always straight legged and prevented guys from pounding her too deeply. She must really like the guy she eventually spread her legs for. I will hold on to that memory of her. .
FiddyCent.
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2096321]That I do Bitumen! She was always straight legged and prevented guys from pounding her too deeply. She must really like the guy she eventually spread her legs for. I will hold on to that memory of her. .
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Eventually? Probably it was the same guy as at the 2 previous times?
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2096092]Is it 40 euro every day?[/QUOTE]It's €20 off every day if you arrive before 16:00, making it €50. Maybe the 40 was a mistake in change returned or typo.
Indeed, that makes entry comparably cheaper. But remember, it's Germany, so not a second after 16:00, rules are rules!
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2096332]Maybe the 40 was a mistake in change returned or typo.[/QUOTE]Not a typo. I paid 47 euros to get into World on Sunday, and 45 euros for Sharks on Monday, which was why I remarked that the 40 euros was cheaper than what I paid for World and Sharks.
At Oase on Tuesday, I gave the receptionist a 100 euro note and asked for the change in 10's (for use to puchase S Bahn tickets, pay taxis and perhaps tip for deserving girls). I got back 6 red notes. I asked "so many", and she replied "discount, you are early". Not having been to Oase for over a year, I did not know the latest rates, counted the 6 notes again to be sure, and went into the lounge happy with the savings.
I guess this will make up for an occasion a few years ago when a prepetually grouchy receptionist there shortchanged me 10 euros.
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[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2096321]That I do Bitumen! She was always straight legged and prevented guys from pounding her too deeply. She must really like the guy she eventually spread her legs for. I will hold on to that memory of her. .
FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]To be honest the guy she spreads her legs for you would not pick out in a crowd and some may describe as southern. She can be stiff and straight legged since she always complained she has a small pussy and guys fuck her hard hurting her. But she also upsold a lot of extras too which put off some customers like CIM and anal.
She says she is not suited to this job.
Anyway, wait and see what happens and wish her well.
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The 40 euros entry that Tank Tank paid is even cheaper than the deal where you pay for 4 entrances and receive 6 prepaid entry cards. That works out as 280 euro for the 6 entries to be 46.67 per entry.
This means this less incentive to even do the prepaid Oase entries unless going after 4 pm.
What time did you do for it to be 40 euro entry?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2096400]What time did you do for it to be 40 euro entry?[/QUOTE]Most likely it was a mistake by the receptionist.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2096403]Most likely it was a mistake by the receptionist.[/QUOTE]Ok. This may explain the 40 euros entrance then.
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[QUOTE=BigAuMan;2096051]I was surprised I was charged 50 euro entry as I though I'd seen on the website that it was 70.
Both provided good service but neither did BBBJ which I guess is due to the new laws.[/QUOTE]They have a special with 50 EUR entry before 4 pm. CBJ is what the law requires. Especially for non-regulars.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2096384]Not a typo. I paid 47 euros to get into World on Sunday, and 45 euros for Sharks on Monday, which was why I remarked that the 40 euros was cheaper than what I paid for World and Sharks.
At Oase on Tuesday, I gave the receptionist a 100 euro note and asked for the change in 10's (for use to puchase S Bahn tickets, pay taxis and perhaps tip for deserving girls). I got back 6 red notes. I asked "so many", and she replied "discount, you are early". Not having been to Oase for over a year, I did not know the latest rates, counted the 6 notes again to be sure, and went into the lounge happy with the savings.
I guess this will make up for an occasion a few years ago when a prepetually grouchy receptionist there shortchanged me 10 euros.[/QUOTE]It is a mistake from the receptionist the price before 4 PM is 50 euros.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2096456]They have a special with 50 EUR entry before 4 pm. CBJ is what the law requires. Especially for non-regulars.[/QUOTE]Ask before going to the room. If she refuses CBJ *nicely* turn her down. She will either change her mind, or you will find someone else who will.
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Oase stink bomb attack
The Oase stink bomb attack happened one week earlier than the Sharks stink bomb attack of last Saturday, 14 October. No one was caught by Oase security unlike at Sharks where a guy was caught with the chemical phials.
Unlike Sharks, Oase management quickly got the professionals in to perform a deep clean to remove the smell and funk. So there is no smell in Oase.
Sharks seemed to go the natural way with airing out the club by opening doors and windows for some days. Hence there was some bad smells even on the Sunday and Monday after the Saturday night stink bomb.
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Ever occurred to you that the time floor at Oase is a lot easier to clean than the carpet at Sharks?
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2096996]Ask before going to the room. If she refuses CBJ *nicely* turn her down. She will either change her mind, or you will find someone else who will.[/QUOTE]How many girls did you find refusing CBJ in the last 5 years?
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Oase line up on Sat Oct 21
Got there around 2-2:30 pm. Confirmed with reception that it is E50 before 4 pm (not E40).
I have not been here since early April. Oase is my Fav club in Frankfurt area. I know everyone has his own options. For me, the nonsmoking quite room upstairs, free Wifi, good lighting area are some of good reason why I keep coming back to here. Of course, I also found some of girls to my like.
As soon as I showered and came out, Adina saw me and was asking if we could have some time today. She remembered that I took someone else last time we met. I told here, I was going to get something to eat and would meet her again. Back in 2016,I was with her 2-3 times. She still have that silky skin and great body. Good time spent with her in early afternoon.
Also met a ISG friend from India here. He also just landed today. Have some chat and food together. Great to have some friend to kill some time in between sessions.
Saw Lara which I had a good time in my April trip. She remember me and ask me if I want to go with her. I do but I am not ready. So I told her that I would be with her later. She must be very busy that day, I never saw her again.
I was looking for lara or my next target, Had a eye contact with a pretty girl. She said her name was Dana (I am really bad on name). Her english was really good. Had a little chat, she seems nice abd I could not find Lara. She was asking me if she could kidnap me for some time, I said why not. Kidnapped by a beautiful girl, any time.
Pretty good sex in different positions and we had good talk after sex. She told me she was ding her MBA while trying to become a pharmacist. I had a eye surgery early this year, I was telling her about.
Retinal detachment. She knew what I was talking about and impressed me with some good advises. May be I should take her more to room rather than going to see my eye doctor. LOL. Anyway, we clicked and had a good time.
Spent some time in upstairs, came down to have dinner and met one of my fav-Veronica. She gained some weights but by no means fat. At the matter of fact, I kind of like it, it is more Woman like.
Maybe like some of member her said. She was really nice to me, never pushed me to room. We talked a little bit what was going on with our life since we last saw each other. I felt that I should take her to a room. She proved that I made a good decision. I made a third pop in less that 7 hrs. I don't know your guys, but a old guy like me, this was my best record in last 2 years. I normally can only have two pop a day.
I saw maybe 60-80 girls working here today. Some old faces and others new to me. Overall the line up is pretty decent to me. I will be at Shark tomorrow. Will let you know what line up look like.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2097139]How many girls did you find refusing CBJ in the last 5 years?[/QUOTE]Does anybody know if Sina is around?
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2097259]Got there around 2-2:30 pm. Confirmed with reception that it is E50 before 4 pm (not E40).
I have not been here since early April. Oase is my Fav club in Frankfurt area. I know everyone has his own options. For me, the nonsmoking quite room upstairs, free Wifi, good lighting area are some of good reason why I keep coming back to here. Of course, I also found some of girls to my like.
As soon as I showered and came out, Adina saw me and was asking if we could have some time today. She remembered that I took someone else last time we met. I told here, I was going to get something to eat and would meet her again. Back in 2016,I was with her 2-3 times. She still have that silky skin and great body. Good time spent with her in early afternoon.
Also met a ISG friend from India here. He also just landed today. Have some chat and food together. Great to have some friend to kill some time in between sessions.
Saw Lara which I had a good time in my April trip. She remember me and ask me if I want to go with her. I do but I am not ready. So I told her that I would be with her later. She must be very busy that day, I never saw her again.
I was looking for lara or my next target, Had a eye contact with a pretty girl. She said her name was Dana (I am really bad on name). Her english was really good. Had a little chat, she seems nice abd I could not find Lara. She was asking me if she could kidnap me for some time, I said why not. Kidnapped by a beautiful girl, any time..[/QUOTE]Oase is super fun in the summer. In the winter it is less convenient, but still good. However, service is crap. Reception is so impolite and actually lied when I asked if a girl was working on a given day (reception girls are ex prostitutes, so no love lost between some of them). Quiet room upstairs was occupied by a guy watching a Turkish show on his iPad and talking on the phone with his wife, quiet is not really enforced. Food not so good again. BTW; many people are with the cell phone inside the club, which is discomforting. Girls should not be allowed to carry phones as well.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2096996]Ask before going to the room. If she refuses CBJ *nicely* turn her down. She will either change her mind, or you will find someone else who will.[/QUOTE]Oops, sorry, I meant to say.
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2097139]How many girls did you find refusing CBJ in the last 5 years?[/QUOTE]
Ask before going to the room. If she refuses BBBJ *nicely* turn her down. She will either change her mind, or you will find someone else who will offer BBBJ.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2097555]Oase is super fun in the summer. In the winter it is less convenient, but still good. However, service is crap. Reception is so impolite and actually lied when I asked if a girl was working on a given day (reception girls are ex prostitutes, so no love lost between some of them). Quiet room upstairs was occupied by a guy watching a Turkish show on his iPad and talking on the phone with his wife, quiet is not really enforced. Food not so good again. BTW; many people are with the cell phone inside the club, which is discomforting. Girls should not be allowed to carry phones as well.[/QUOTE]Visited yesterday Monday at day time, what a bad LU until 5 PM when I had to leave without any session. I think that it was the worst LU for me in the last 10 years at Oase, I ask the receptionist what is happening she told that some girls are on holidays and some were not coming despite their commitment so the results is a poor LU. May be also the impact of the new law positive side I made some savings.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2097672]Ask before going to the room. If she refuses BBBJ *nicely* turn her down. She will either change her mind, or you will find someone else who will offer BBBJ.[/QUOTE]You didn't read me correctly.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2097555]Reception is so impolite and actually lied when I asked if a girl was working on a given day.[/QUOTE]I've had this happen to me to, and not just at Oase, but upon reflecting, I should not be surprised. It's game theory. The club has an interest in saying "yes" to get you in and get your entry fee. If you don't see your girl, maybe a big spender has monopolized her time, or maybe she left before you arrived. Just because they say she's in doesn't mean you'll get to seer her, and I think most guys understand that.
If other girls tell you that the front desk lied to you, who are you going to believe? They're all current or ex-prostitutes with their own dramas, right? It's not like you're going to march to the front desk and make a scene. Odds are, most guys will manage to have a good time anyway.
If they tell you she's not in, I think that's a stronger signal than if they tell you she's in, because they have no interest in not having you show up. The only time they'd lie to you and tell you someone wasn't in is if you were being a creeper, and that's a different problem you got.
I've generally stopped calling in to ask about my faves. It's better to get their private contact info. But I've found that to be often a rather expensive process.
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Maybe I was lucky but reception advised me when I phoned recently that a girl was not in. Reception was also very tolerant of my creaking German.
Jmioffe. Yes, having the girls private contact can be potentially expensive :)
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2097997]It's better to get their private contact info. But I've found that to be often a rather expensive process.[/QUOTE]I found they always ask us to buy them things they can't get in Germany. For that reason, I stopped telling them when I am returning and only let them know when I am in Germany.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2098135]I found they always ask us to buy them things they can't get in Germany. For that reason, I stopped telling them when I am returning and only let them know when I am in Germany.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Optimist;2098132]Yes, having the girls private contact can be potentially expensive :)[/QUOTE]Just tell them "No". A few weeks ago, a WG asked if I would bring her a birthday present. I just ignored the message. When I saw her this weekend, she never brought it up. There was no downgrade in service. She still talked to me.
Both of you have written in the past that you are not 50 EUR men. Trust me. I believe you have leverage. A non-confrontational approach would be to remind her how good of a customer you have been in the past, and ask her how she could treat you this way? I would still raise my voice during that conversation. Chances are she will realize she is in the wrong.
Optimist, I know you are more concerned about emotional connection. But how genuine is the connection if she is willing to break the relationship, because you cannot or will not accede to her financial demands? Is greed not a turn-off?
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2098335]Just tell them "No". A few weeks ago, a WG asked if I would bring her a birthday present. I just ignored the message. When I saw her this weekend, she never brought it up. There was no downgrade in service. She still talked to me.
Both of you have written in the past that you are not 50 EUR men. Trust me. I believe you have leverage. A non-confrontational approach would be to remind her how good of a customer you have been in the past, and ask her how she could treat you this way? I would still raise my voice during that conversation. Chances are she will realize she is in the wrong.
Optimist, I know you are more concerned about emotional connection. But how genuine is the connection if she is willing to break the relationship, because you cannot or will not accede to her financial demands? Is greed not a turn-off?[/QUOTE]Let us not making the things so rational, the girls are prostitutes, and they have sex 10 to 20 times per day even more with all kind of customers, some of them are not even keeping the money for herself, when they are bored they just send message to see what will happen, but a no will usually not affect the relationship.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2098132]Maybe I was lucky but reception advised me when I phoned recently that a girl was not in. Reception was also very tolerant of my creaking German.
Jmioffe. Yes, having the girls private contact can be potentially expensive :)[/QUOTE]Oh, I'd say if the desk tells you a girl is not in, that's not lucky, that's just the straightforward Germany that I love so much. That should be expected. It's more when they tell you that a girl is in that should be doubted.
It has usually cost me a few pricey sessions or the rare emotional connection (usually a combination) to get a private contact. I suppose that's just how the game goes. Even when you're paying for it, you have to show the girl you're worth their time, that you're extra to all the other sorry johns she sees throughout her day. I keep this in mind, since I've been in more than one session where a girl is cleaning out her purse, and hands me a random scrap of paper to throw out, and I'm like "what's this?
It's the phone number of some dude who wanted her to contact him.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2098135]I found they always ask us to buy them things they can't get in Germany. For that reason, I stopped telling them when I am returning and only let them know when I am in Germany.[/QUOTE]What have they asked for? The only thing that I've come across is listerine breath strips -- and some designers' shoes, but that's a different story.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2098357]What have they asked for? The only thing that I've come across is listerine breath strips -- and some designers' shoes, but that's a different story.[/QUOTE]I've been asked for body oils that are not available here or claimed to be unavailable, perfume, bags, Victoria secret and more. They'll take anything that's free. Greedy!
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2096456]They have a special with 50 EUR entry before 4 pm. CBJ is what the law requires. Especially for non-regulars.[/QUOTE]I was at Oase a month ago on a Saturday, visiting from the USA. It was my first time at Oase, but I had been to other clubs several years ago. Dozens of girls came up to proposition me over the course of the 8+ hours I spent there. Each and every one of them, literally begged for me to shoot my sperm in her mouth. I had three sessions that day, each for an hour, including one full-on lesbian duo, cumming a total of 7 times. Each and every load was delivered to a girl's mouth, and two of them swallowed. No one had any problem with BBBJ that day, law or no law.
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[QUOTE=Steverino1968;2098939]I was at Oase a month ago on a Saturday, visiting from the USA. It was my first time at Oase, but I had been to other clubs several years ago. Dozens of girls came up to proposition me over the course of the 8+ hours I spent there. Each and every one of them, literally begged for me to shoot my sperm in her mouth. I had three sessions that day, each for an hour, including one full-on lesbian duo, cumming a total of 7 times. Each and every load was delivered to a girl's mouth, and two of them swallowed. No one had any problem with BBBJ that day, law or no law.[/QUOTE]3 one hour rooms and 7 finishes in about an 8 hour period. That's like cumming twice each in 2 one hour sessions and 3 more times in another one hour session. That's super impressive, superhuman, defying the norms of male biology. Some may even say it's not believable. 😏.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2098335]Just tell them "No". A few weeks ago, a WG asked if I would bring her a birthday present. I just ignored the message. When I saw her this weekend, she never brought it up. There was no downgrade in service. She still talked to me.
Both of you have written in the past that you are not 50 EUR men. Trust me. I believe you have leverage. A non-confrontational approach would be to remind her how good of a customer you have been in the past, and ask her how she could treat you this way? I would still raise my voice during that conversation. Chances are she will realize she is in the wrong.
Optimist, I know you are more concerned about emotional connection. But how genuine is the connection if she is willing to break the relationship, because you cannot or will not accede to her financial demands? Is greed not a turn-off?[/QUOTE]You are spot on. I have found that telling a girl "no" leads to NO diminution in service or affection from the girl. The girls do it just on the off chance they will strike the big time.
I have never had a girl break off our business relationship because I refused to send money. I have on the other hand abandoned girls who get insistent. I just occasionally say yes, on the basis that if they are entertaining me on the telephone during my exile from Germany, then a little payment for their time is fair enough
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2099042]You are spot on. I have found that telling a girl "no" leads to NO diminution in service or affection from the girl. The girls do it just on the off chance they will strike the big time.
I have never had a girl break off our business relationship because I refused to send money. [/QUOTE]This wasn't due to a Whatsapp request for money. But recently I had one WG give me the silent treatment. It lasted about one visit. We passed each other a few times. I tried to make eye contact only the first time. She didn't acknowledge. I never made an effort to apologize or initiate conversation. Then on my very next visit, she summoned me over. Of course she didn't apologize, but she explained that she was not mad at me anymore, and that we could go to the room again if I wanted. I just politely excused myself. Haven't been with her since.
But I have had friends tell me of similar situations. They declined a Whatsapp request for money. They were given the silent treatment for one visit. Then at some point the WG re-enters the picture like nothing ever happened.
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It is very unlikely that a girl, especially a popular girl, has WhatsApp connection with just you, one single customer. Most likely she has several. If she is hitting you with a money request, she is probably doing the same with many others, or at least a few others depending on how many admirers she has.
From her POV, no harm no foul. If the guy is foolish enough to give, she will take. If not, she will move on to the next guy. This is akin to asking for a tip at the locker, or perhaps the next step in that direction.
So, if she pretends *fake anger or hurt* when you decline the money request, it's what it is — fake. If she hits 10 blokes and 8 reject the request, can she really afford to dump well paying customers? Remember, to get up to stage of asking for money on WhatsApp, it must be with somewhat good customers I. E, a few sessions lasting more than 50/30, then exchange of personal phone #s.
There was this big fav girl of mine. She whined and pouted and said I didn't bring her any Christmas gift. On my next visit I bought her some nice perfume at the duty free shop on my way to FRA and gave it to her. That was the end of my relationship with her; instead of being happy, she hit me for more tips, extras like anal (she knows I never do anal, and yet demanded it) and so on. Soon, it became so untenable and I didn't session with her for more than a year. Eventually, she became normal and it was OK again. Lesson Learned: I never ever give any gifts to girls after that experience.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2099123]On my next visit I bought her some nice perfume at the duty free shop on my way to FRA and gave it to her. ; instead of being happy, she hit me for more tips, extras like anal (she knows I never do anal, and yet demanded it) and so on.[/QUOTE]She used the [B]foot-in-the-door (FITD) technique[/B]. Make a small request first, get commitment, then move on to larger requests. The reverse approach, the [B]door-in-the-face (DITF) technique[/B], involves making an outlandish request first, getting rejected, then making a comparatively more reasonable request. For instance, you can ask your boss for a $50,000 raise. When he declines, wait two weeks. Then ask him if he can pay for a conference in Frankfurt that will only cost the company 2000 EUR. His guilt from rejecting you the first time, may compel him to say "yes" to the second request.
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot-in-the-door_technique[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door-in-the-face_technique[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2099040]3 one hour rooms and 7 finishes in about an 8 hour period. That's like cumming twice each in 2 one hour sessions and 3 more times in another one hour session. That's super impressive, superhuman, defying the norms of male biology. Some may even say it's not believable. 😏.[/QUOTE]It was probably closer to 10 or 12 hours. I fell asleep on one of the lounge chairs in the solarium for a while and lost track of time.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2099040]3 one hour rooms and 7 finishes in about an 8 hour period. That's like cumming twice each in 2 one hour sessions and 3 more times in another one hour session. That's super impressive, superhuman, defying the norms of male biology. Some may even say it's not believable. 😏.[/QUOTE]I could have done that when I was in my twenties. However, all being no upsell BBBjs is even less credible unless he looks like Bad Pitt.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2099353]I could have done that when I was in my twenties. However, all being no upsell BBBjs is even less credible unless he looks like Bad Pitt.[/QUOTE]There was no upsell for the BBBJ, but there was an extra 50 Euro fee for the CIM. So, a 1-hour session with BBBJ with full deep throat, DATY, classic, and CIM was a total of 150 Euro, and I got to cum twice. I had two sessions like that with two different girls. My first session was a duo, for which I had to do some negotiation, since the initial price offered was stratospheric. Anyway, for a 1-hour session, we agreed to a full-on lesbo porno fest with everything except anal at a total price of 500 Euro. It was unbelievable. Activities included BBBJ from each, BBBJ from both at the same time, BBBJ from one with ball sucking from the other, then they switched places. Then one continued sucking me while the other rode my face for DATY; then they switched places.
Then the fucking began. I would be fucking one while the other would periodically take my cock from the one girl's pussy straight into her mouth. Then they switch places so I could go from the other girl's pussy to the first girl's mouth. Then the one girl said she wanted to eat out her friend while I fucked her from behind. Then they switched off. Finally, while the first girl was riding me rcg, the other shoved a vibrator up her ass and turned it on. That did it for me. When I told them I was cumming, the first girl got up off my cock and the other one ripped off the condom impaling her throat on me right down to the balls and fellated me for all she was worth, for which I rewarded her with a massive load of spooge that I had been saving up for two weeks. After collecting every last drop, she leaned over her friend and dribbled the sperm into her friend's wide open mouth. Her friend then played with it, swishing it around her mouth with her tongue, gargling it even, showing off for me, before sitting up to share a sperm kiss with the first girl, as some of the cum dribbled down their chins and they swallowed the rest.
After a few minutes' rest, all of the preceding activities were repeated in no particular order, during which I came twice more, each time again in the girls' mouths, after which they would share a sperm kiss and swallow. That was the most amazing due I have ever had! I've had a dozen or so in my life and, frankly, most have been disappointing. This one, however, was everything a duo should be, so I gave each girl a 25 Euro gratuity on top of the 250 Euro I paid each of them. Personally, I thought it was great value for money. Even so, it's probably fortunate for me that I don't have such easy access to FKK clubs, otherwise I'd be bankrupt! %.
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Favorites at Oase
Gents. I am thinking of visiting Oase this weekend. Have these girls been seen recently?
May (Phil).
Diana (Dom).
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Saw Diana on my last visits. May wasn't around for weeks.
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[QUOTE=NF4591;2099594]Gents. I am thinking of visiting Oase this weekend. Have these girls been seen recently?
May (Phil).
Diana (Dom).[/QUOTE]When in last saw May, she was in Artemis.
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[QUOTE=Steverino1968;2099405]There was no upsell for the BBBJ, but there was an extra 50 Euro fee for the CIM. So, a 1-hour session with BBBJ with full deep throat, DATY, classic, and CIM was a total of 150 Euro, and I got to cum twice. I had two sessions like that with two different girls. My first session was a duo, for which I had to do some negotiation, since the initial price offered was stratospheric. Anyway, for a 1-hour session, we agreed to a full-on lesbo porno fest with everything except anal at a total price of 500 Euro. It was unbelievable. Activities included BBBJ from each, BBBJ from both at the same time, BBBJ from one with ball sucking from the other, then they switched places. Then one continued sucking me while the other rode my face for DATY; then they switched places.
Then the fucking began. I would be fucking one while the other would periodically take my cock from the one girl's pussy straight into her mouth. Then they switch places so I could go from the other girl's pussy to the first girl's mouth. Then the one girl said she wanted to eat out her friend while I fucked her from behind. Then they switched off. Finally, while the first girl was riding me rcg, the other shoved a vibrator up her ass and turned it on. That did it for me..[/QUOTE]How does E250 come from? How was it calculated?
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2100291]How does E250 come from? How was it calculated?[/QUOTE]For the duo, I negotiated on the basis of 100 Euro per girl for the hour, plus 50 Euro apiece for CIM, plus 50 Euro apiece for full-on lesbo action, plus another 50 Euro each for unlimited pops, for a total of 250 Euro per girl. They accepted this when I said that I might throw in a few extra Euro if they made the session extra special. They initially offered the duo for a total price of 800 Euro for the hour, which I thought excessive. All told, it was a great session with lots of kissing, and the two girls seemed to really enjoy it, too. Later on, I had a one-on-one session with my favorite of the two girls, who gave me her email afterwards.
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[QUOTE=Steverino1968;2100517]For the duo, I negotiated on the basis of 100 Euro per girl for the hour, plus 50 Euro apiece for CIM, plus 50 Euro apiece for full-on lesbo action, plus another 50 Euro each for unlimited pops, for a total of 250 Euro per girl.[/QUOTE]50 euros extra for unlimited pops is a new one. And the initial offer of 800 for the hour is frankly taking the p1ss.
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[QUOTE=Steverino1968;2100517]For the duo, I negotiated on the basis of 100 Euro per girl for the hour, plus 50 Euro apiece for CIM, plus 50 Euro apiece for full-on lesbo action, plus another 50 Euro each for unlimited pops, for a total of 250 Euro per girl. They accepted this when I said that I might throw in a few extra Euro if they made the session extra special. They initially offered the duo for a total price of 800 Euro for the hour, which I thought excessive. All told, it was a great session with lots of kissing, and the two girls seemed to really enjoy it, too. Later on, I had a one-on-one session with my favorite of the two girls, who gave me her email afterwards.[/QUOTE]You don't need to pay extra if you are coming several times, kissing is included for a 1 hour session but you need to be attractive, to get any e-mail etc is not a big deal I am refusing always all those contact, recommend you to do the same if you want to keep safe or choose really the girl you like and be ready to spend a lot of money for her. For example today I girl at Shark asked me to take her out of the club and to live with her what I politely declined.
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I'm waiting for the day a girl decides to charge 50 euros for the privilege of breathing the same air.
Why feed the sharks?
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2100589]50 euros extra for unlimited pops is a new one. And the initial offer of 800 for the hour is frankly taking the p1ss.[/QUOTE]Well, after their initial 800 Euro offer, they were asking an additional 50 Euro apiece each 30 minutes for CIM and another 50 Euro apiece each 30 minutes for lesbo action, for a total of 600 Euro for a 60 minute duo. The 50 Euro for unlimited pops was to be clear that pops weren't to be limited and that all sperm was to be delivered into their mouths. I thought the 500 Euro I negotiated wasn't a bad price given the quality of the session. Do you disagree?
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2100603]I'm waiting for the day a girl decides to charge 50 euros for the privilege of breathing the same air.
Why feed the sharks?[/QUOTE]Just because the best LU today in Germany is at Shark, but of course Oase is second. To be correct I need to say that Shark is not my favorite club and I will not tell which one it is.
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Keeping the customers to come back
[QUOTE=Steverino1968;2100517]For the duo, I negotiated on the basis of 100 Euro per girl for the hour, plus 50 Euro apiece for CIM, plus 50 Euro apiece for full-on lesbo action, plus another 50 Euro each for unlimited pops, for a total of 250 Euro per girl. They accepted this when I said that I might throw in a few extra Euro if they made the session extra special. They initially offered the duo for a total price of 800 Euro for the hour, which I thought excessive. All told, it was a great session with lots of kissing, and the two girls seemed to really enjoy it, too. Later on, I had a one-on-one session with my favorite of the two girls, who gave me her email afterwards.[/QUOTE]I should think she gave you her email address for the effort you made.
I would also like to think she would have given her Instagram, SnapChat, WhatsApp, Facebook and handy number as well. Clients like you are ones that the girls want to come back.
800 euro working out at 400 euros each is not unheard of at Oase.
You get girls offering package deals like 500 euros for 2 hours or as long as you need, including anal as much as you want, blowjob any way you want, CIM, filming, still pictures, kissing all you want, DATY, and rim job which some of the Asian hunter girls would do on the boys.
You are not alone.
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A good line-up at Oase
A few days after my visit to Sharks (which was a resonable good experience), I went to Oase. I cought the S-train to Bad Homborg, and from there a taxi for 17 euro. I was too late for the discounted entryy, but at least the light blue robe was in a correct size.
At Oase there is some pressure from the girls, but it isn't too bad. They do take no for an answer, but I had to say it a lot. So Sharks take the upper hand in this regard. First I went with Carla (Ro 23). I just stumbled upon her on the floor, followed my instincts, and yes, it was sucess indeed. The best I have had in a Hessen FKK. Very friendly, relaxed and gave exellent service. It's always nice meeting someone who takes her time to talk and make the customer feel like a guest. Pretty as well. After relaxing for a while I met beautiful blonde Lea, 26 from Russia (full name Angelica?) She was talkative in the bar and promised a lot. In the room she was quite good too. But not like Carla, so that was small downturn. But anyway, what can be expected? Standard service, nice enough. Both of them was half hour, 50 euro, and these days one cannot expect too much. No kissing, but otherwise good service, and they didn't try to upsell. The funny thing is that the names of the two girls were (almost) the same as the girls I met in Sharks a few days earlier.
Oase is a large club in the countryside, several common rooms, and the garden is very large. So it was nice to spend a few hours here in the afternoon/early evening enjoying the facilities. The line-up was good, and a bit better than at Sharks, but I guess this varies from one day to another.
By the main road there were taxis waiting. I chartered one and we drove fast as hell, 130 km/h on curvy country roads to Bad Homborg, a funny ending of a nice day.
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John. Thanks for reporting.
I was sad to read to that one can't expect expect too much nowadays.
I would encourage everyone to expect really good service and not give in the shark behaviour. There are still plenty of clubs and girls giving service as good, if not better, than in the past. We just need to track them down.
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Carla ro is a good choice
[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2100665] First I went with Carla (Ro 23). I just stumbled upon her on the floor, followed my instincts, and yes, it was sucess indeed. The best I have had in a Hessen FKK. Very friendly, relaxed and gave exellent service. It's always nice meeting someone who takes her time to talk and make the customer feel like a guest. Pretty as well. Both of them was half hour, 50 euro, and these days one cannot expect too much. No kissing, but otherwise good service, and they didn't try to upsell.[/QUOTE]Hey John Traveller.
Good choice to pick young, very pretty, long dark haired, nice breasted, small sized Carla. She is a good performer in the room, she does indeed kiss and she does in all my sessions so I do not know her to not kiss. I guess it is because I spend 100 euros or more in a session. She does perform anal sex and it is so much fun plundering her A hole.
I am glad that you think Carla is the best that you have had in a Hessen FKK. There can be better as well, so you just need to find more of them and once you found them is to keep them so you always have a stream of them on tap in whichever club that you go to.
Cheers,
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On S-5 you could get off at the next station from Bad Homburg which is Friedrichsdorf-from there the taxi to Oase is usually less that 10 E.
Despite all the negativity and constantly declining price to performance ratio, Oase remains my go-to place in the area and has been for 15 years. And with the recent severe decline in the quality at Mainhattan, I am strictly an Oase customer at the moment. Gone are the days indeed when Oase use to have hot ladies from Deutschland, Austria and Poland and 50 E included GFE service without any up-sell.
[QUOTE=JohnTraveller;2100665]A few days after my visit to Sharks (which was a resonable good experience), I went to Oase. I cought the S-train to Bad Homborg, and from there a taxi for 17 euro. I was too late for the discounted entryy, but at least the light blue robe was in a correct size.[/QUOTE]
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Carla
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2100676]Good choice to pick young, very pretty, long dark haired, nice breasted, small sized Carla. She is a good performer in the room, she does indeed kiss and she does in all my sessions so I do not know her to not kiss.[/QUOTE]She has an incredible memory. I only had one short session late in the night with her in 2014 around the time she made her first appearance.
2 weeks ago, she came to me and said: "Remember me? I'm Carla. 3 years ago, we go together after you finish with the other Carla, the skinny one." It took me quite some time to recollect that it was quite possible that the session I had with her was just after one I had with the squeezebox Carla. But I do remember getting sensuous kisses from her then for 50 euros, but maybe times are different now. It is incredible that she could remember a single session she had with a one-off customer so many years after the thousands of customers she must have processed since then.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2100651]I should think she gave you her email address for the effort you made.
I would also like to think she would have given her Instagram, SnapChat, WhatsApp, Facebook and handy number as well. Clients like you are ones that the girls want to come back.
800 euro working out at 400 euros each is not unheard of at Oase.
You get girls offering package deals like 500 euros for 2 hours or as long as you need, including anal as much as you want, blowjob any way you want, CIM, filming, still pictures, kissing all you want, DATY, and rim job which some of the Asian hunter girls would do on the boys.
You are not alone.[/QUOTE]So, do you think I overpaid, got a good deal, or paid the standard rate?
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The unlimited pop extra is clearly an upsell. And you tipped them?
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Fair deal at 250 euros per girl for 1 hour
[QUOTE=Steverino1968;2101016]So, do you think I overpaid, got a good deal, or paid the standard rate?[/QUOTE]Looking at the charge out for the 1 hour at 250 euros per girl totalling 500 euros, the only quibble similar to that voiced by BigBuddy69 would be the unlimited pops during that 1 hour but given you came maybe 3 times in that one hour then maybe it was justified. So seems fair enough.
All the other costs you quote are the standard price that I too would pay as well.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2101049]The unlimited pop extra is clearly an upsell. And you tipped them?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I gave them 25 Euro apiece, but they sperm-swapped and swallowed three times. On top of that, they came through with excellent lesbo action, eating each other out with gusto and sucking my cock from one girl's pussy to the other girl's mouth repeatedly. I've only ever gotten that twice before over the years. The girls were really hot, too.
I'm bad with names, especially stage names, but my favorite of the two was a very tall, slender blonde who said she lives in Russia and travels regularly to Oase to work for about a month at a time before returning home. Her friend was a brown haired Romanian, also slender, but shorter.
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[QUOTE=Steverino1968;2101063]Yeah, I gave them 25 Euro apiece, but they sperm-swapped and swallowed three times. On top of that, they came through with excellent lesbo action, eating each other out with gusto and sucking my cock from one girl's pussy to the other girl's mouth repeatedly. I've only ever gotten that twice before over the years. The girls were really hot, too.
I'm bad with names, especially stage names, but my favorite of the two was a very tall, slender blonde who said she lives in Russia and travels regularly to Oase to work for about a month at a time before returning home. Her friend was a brown haired Romanian, also slender, but shorter.[/QUOTE]In my opinion that session is worth the money. Real porno services that you will remember forever.
Many here will disagree. Remember this its about you not them. Its your money, you choose how you use it.
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Many here will disagree. Remember this its about you not them. Its your money, you choose how you use it.[/QUOTE]
Well said, words of wisdom from a veteran! I agree and think no monger should ever knock another mongers choice of how they spend their hard earned money; although every monger is also entitled to their opinions
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Devil's advocate: when punters start paying extra for a service that isn't an extra, very soon it becomes an extra.
As mentioned below by others, I've no problem with anyone spending their money however they choose so long as it doesn't impact the market for everyone else.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2101369]Devil's advocate: when punters start paying extra for a service that isn't an extra, very soon it becomes an extra.
As mentioned below by others, I've no problem with anyone spending their money however they choose so long as it doesn't impact the market for everyone else.[/QUOTE]Well said. But its a tough question sometimes. Like HB says, we might need some heavy spenders to lower the prices for the rest of us too. Thus I don't mind them trying for the lesbian upsell sometimes for example.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2101369]Devil's advocate: when punters start paying extra for a service that isn't an extra, very soon it becomes an extra.
As mentioned below by others, I've no problem with anyone spending their money however they choose so long as it doesn't impact the market for everyone else.[/QUOTE]Which service that Steverino paid for that is not an extra.
I think paying 50 for coming 3 times in an hour seems reasonable. Especially if you count one come per half as an allotment.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2101386]Which service that Steverino paid for that is not an extra.
I think paying 50 for coming 3 times in an hour seems reasonable. Especially if you count one come per half as an allotment.[/QUOTE]I think it's pretty clear which service is not an extra as you immediately started defending it. Multiple finishes in an allotted time never has been an extra.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2101386]Which service that Steverino paid for that is not an extra.
I think paying 50 for coming 3 times in an hour seems reasonable. Especially if you count one come per half as an allotment.[/QUOTE]I think that, since he already paid two extras (lesbo action and CIM), maybe they should have included the mutlipop in the total package.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2101390]I think it's pretty clear which service is not an extra as you immediately started defending it. Multiple finishes in an allotted time never has been an extra.[/QUOTE]There are very few girls allowing more than one pop in a 30 min session. Or two in a on hour session.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2101405]I think that, since he already paid two extras (lesbo action and CIM), maybe they should have included the mutlipop in the total package.[/QUOTE]That is different. That is looking for a discount. Not the same thing. You are talking about the reverse of upwelling. Different concept.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2101390]I think it's pretty clear which service is not an extra as you immediately started defending it. Multiple finishes in an allotted time never has been an extra.[/QUOTE]Since when is multiple comes in half hour is the norm?
Yes at the discretion of the girl but it is not usual from my understanding of a half hour session.
I am not defending. I am just trying to understand your way of thinking.
You started off saying devils advocate.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2101420]Since when is multiple comes in half hour is the norm?
Yes at the discretion of the girl but it is not usual from my understanding of a half hour session.
I am not defending. I am just trying to understand your way of thinking.
You started off saying devils advocate.[/QUOTE]Like you say the girl has the choice, personally I never paid in 10 years for coming several times. If you are nice and respectful most of the girls will just try to make you happy and session her again, at the end it changes nothing for her if you come several time.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2101418]That is different. That is looking for a discount. Not the same thing. You are talking about the reverse of upwelling. Different concept.[/QUOTE]Its not a discount since multipop is not an "official" extra. What will they imagine next time, the "one pop" extra? If you don't pay, she makes you pull out whent you're close to coming?
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2101433]Its not a discount since multipop is not an "official" extra. What will they imagine next time, the "one pop" extra? If you don't pay, she makes you pull out whent you're close to coming?[/QUOTE]If the general concept is one pop her half hour and the man had three pops in one hour is it not fair to pay for the third pop?
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2101369]Devil's advocate: when punters start paying extra for a service that isn't an extra, very soon it becomes an extra.
As mentioned below by others, I've no problem with anyone spending their money however they choose so long as it doesn't impact the market for everyone else.[/QUOTE]In the USA, not every girl offers multiple pops, no matter how long you book her for. Sometimes, when you book for an hour, after you pop within 15 minutes, the girl will insist that the appointment was for UP TO an hour, and ends with the first pop. Even for those that do offer multiple pops, it's rare for a girl to continue the session after the second pop. They'll usually start packing up right afterward, regardless of how much time is left. I just didn't want to be caught in such an awkward position.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2101436]If the general concept is one pop her half hour and the man had three pops in one hour is it not fair to pay for the third pop?[/QUOTE]Personally, like everyone, I don't want to be ripped off, nor do I want to come off as a cheapskate. I'll take a good deal or discount, if offered, but I'm generally satisfied if I wind up paying a fair price for good service, or better. I've too often paid a fair price and been disappointed.
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So he stays half an hour more and he has his three pops. One pop per half hour and he pays the same. So yes that's an upsell.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2101441]So he stays half an hour more and he has his three pops. One pop per half hour and he pays the same. So yes that's an upsell.[/QUOTE]90 minutes at 500 Euro wasn't on offer with duo, lesbo, and CIM. Is that the usual price?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2101420]Since when is multiple comes in half hour is the norm?
Yes at the discretion of the girl but it is not usual from my understanding of a half hour session.
I am not defending. I am just trying to understand your way of thinking.
You started off saying devils advocate.[/QUOTE]A standard 50 euro session maybe half an hour / one finish (it's always been an outlier and I don't think it relevant in this situation) but if you're paying more than that per half hour (with CIM or anal) you are able to finish as many times as you want up to the 30 minute mark.
Reverse it for a minute. If you fuck a girl in the ass twice in the same session, should you be charged twice?
My only other point that springs to mind is the concept of what is 'reasonable'. Reasonable is subjective. In this situation, is a guy who finishes 3 times in a hour (which, unless he's a rapid repeater, is going to result in at least a little down time during the session) more reasonable than a guy who wants to fuck hard for an hour and finishes at 59:59? Maybe a tip or repeat service will show your appreciation, but an up front negotiated extra? No way.
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[QUOTE=Steverino1968;2101438]In the USA, not every girl offers multiple pops, no matter how long you book her for. Sometimes, when you book for an hour, after you pop within 15 minutes, the girl will insist that the appointment was for UP TO an hour, and ends with the first pop. Even for those that do offer multiple pops, it's rare for a girl to continue the session after the second pop. They'll usually start packing up right afterward, regardless of how much time is left. I just didn't want to be caught in such an awkward position.[/QUOTE]You are correct. Being a cheap charlie is never worth it. You got superior service by paying a little more. If a girl goes the extra mile, I have no problem paying her. It establishes a good relationship with her and her friends. Those who complain about the service usually are cheap. That is why some girls will reject a punter to give you a session.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2101539]You are correct. Being a cheap charlie is never worth it. You got superior service by paying a little more. [/QUOTE]No you don't. All the girls will think you're weak and that they can extract more money from you by working less. Being a wimp and saying "yes" to every requests doesn't attract the good providers, it attracts the sharks like a bloody carcass. The girls won't respect you more, they'll think you're a pussy and they will probably make fun of you and give your name to all their sharky friends. And actually, it really damages the scene. Five years ago when I first came in Germany, there were at least two clubs doing 60 €/1 h and one of them had a great reputation, the Blue Note. Now around FF you have to beg for an average service and I'm pretty sure than most of the 100 € sessions you can get at Sharks or Oase are less good than a 30 € session in Blue Note.
And now the girls complain that they don't have enough costumers. Maybe they should consider doing their job properly.
If you like a girl, you stay longer with her or you go with her more, end of the story. Sometimes, I bring little gifts to the girls but most of the time it's for less than 5 €.
At steverino: the only normal price for me is 50 €/30 minutes. 50 € for CIM and 50 € for lesbo action seems acceptable to me in Hesse, so for me 400 € for this kind of session would we the normal price.
Don't forget that, by paying each one of them 200 €/ hour, you pay them twice the normal rate. And since they were two in the room, they probably had to work less than if only one was here with you. Don't compare to USA, it's not the USA. The scene is the best in Germany, let's keep it that way.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2101759]No you don't. All the girls will think you're weak and that they can extract more money from you by working less. Being a wimp and saying "yes" to every requests doesn't attract the good providers, it attracts the sharks like a bloody carcass. The girls won't respect you more, they'll think you're a pussy and they will probably make fun of you and give your name to all their sharky friends. And actually, it really damages the scene.[/QUOTE]When I first started on the scene there were basically only 2 standard extras; CIM (maybe CIF) and anal, plus some off menu items; NS or whatever. But now in some clubs it's like every individual thing is an extra. It's like flying on fucking Ryanair. What has caused this? Punters (usually tourists) who don't follow the standard payment system. There is a very noticeable, strong negative correlation between the amount of tourists in a club and and it's service levels.
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Girls know if you are a pushover with money. Next discussion. LOL.
The general pricing depends on cheap charlies and not in a club is right Aki. It just raises the expectations of services per pricing. Why does Fra threads turn into spending, money, economies of how girls make money, etc..?
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Exactly!
[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2101782]When I first started on the scene there were basically only 2 standard extras; CIM (maybe CIF) and anal, plus some off menu items; NS or whatever. But now in some clubs it's like every individual thing is an extra. It's like flying on fucking Ryanair. What has caused this? Punters (usually tourists) who don't follow the standard payment system. There is a very noticeable, strong negative correlation between the amount of tourists in a club and and it's service levels.[/QUOTE]There's more than just the two options of being a "Cheap Charlie" or a stupid "Pay More Boar" thinking you'll get better service just because you plunked down more money. How about just following the house rules on what you should pay with the expectation that you will get what you paid for? In other words, value for your money? How about that concept? Pay what you're supposed to pay versus trying to get as much for as little as possible, or thinking you're going to get more and better just because you paid more? How about paying what you're supposed to pay and getting what you're supposed to get for that amount of money? Imagine that? Now is that a novel approach or what? Ryan Air LOL! They suck! Fying with the riff raff just like on EasyJet LOL!
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My jaw drops in disbelief. The whole concept of FKK was predicated on time in exchange for euros, with only certain less usual services like anal costing extra.
As Citizen Kane says the discussion here sounds like FKK is Ryanair, with cheap come on prices and then so many extras that you end up paying more than on a so called premium airline. Everything costs extra: soon it will cost extra to have a full half hour as opposed to 20 minutes. As Mike de Havilland said, may as well go to a cheap laufhaus.
It beggars belief that we should expect to pay twice to come twice in half hour. Of course girls are within their rights to choose customers they prefer, but a service provider who measures everything out in teaspoons is never going to give good service.
The dichotomy set up here is a misconstructed paradigm. The term cheap charlies is being used at different points to mean guys who want to extract every ounce from the girls for minimum payment, and elsewhere to mean guys who expect good service without loads of extras. The first sort, as Akibono means, are going to get a worse service The second sort are ones who are not going to be shark food. Both are being labelled cheap charlies yet are very different.
It is like the girls, some want to extract every cent from a man for no effort, others want to to get a good income by giving good service.
I am one sort of cheap charlie because I believe that going along with the racheting up of extras is exploit ation by girls who will never give good service. On the other hand, I am very happy to give good money to girls who give good service.
Reward top level service by lots of repeat custom, and enjoyable time for the girl. Paying extra for rubbish service just feeds the sharks. Disincentivise rubbish service by refusing ridiculous new extras.
Fortunately there are plenty of girls who do not charge these silly extras, provide great service, are nice people, and are happy to be earning 5000 to 7000 a month as a result
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2101814]My jaw drops in disbelief. The whole concept of FKK was predicated on time in exchange for euros, with only certain less usual services like anal costing extra.
As Citizen Kane says the discussion here sounds like FKK is Ryanair, with cheap come on prices and then so many extras that you end up paying more than on a so called premium airline. Everything costs extra: soon it will cost extra to have a full half hour as opposed to 20 minutes. As Mike de Havilland said, may as well go to a cheap laufhaus.
It beggars belief that we should expect to pay twice to come twice in half hour. Of course girls are within their rights to choose customers they prefer, but a service provider who measures everything out in teaspoons is never going to give good service.[/QUOTE]For me you are forgetting chemistry between people and you just believe it is a money and willing issue, I don't believe. Some girls are not feeling well with some guys even they pay a lot and they just consider them as cash provider but they will not give great service to them but on the other side they will provide great service to other guys even they just pay 50. I know that many mongers always want to put everything in rational schemes like a excel file and others are considering to "purchase" a girl like they buy a new car or a new laptop completely forgetting that humans are far more complex.
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What was once called "Clubstandard" included full 30 min, DFK, BBBJ, DATY and sex in as many positions as you could think of for the standard 30 min run rate at the club, usually 50€. Common extras were CIM and anal for 50€/100€ in most clubs, 25€/50€ in NRW. Kissing, COB, digits were NOT an extra.
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"Clubstandard" is still the standard at Berndt's.
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2101823]What was once called "Clubstandard" included full 30 min, DFK, BBBJ, DATY and sex in as many positions as you could think of for the standard 30 min run rate at the club, usually 50. Common extras were CIM and anal for 50/100 in most clubs, 25/50 in NRW. Kissing, COB, digits were NOT an extra.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2101539]You are correct. Being a cheap charlie is never worth it. You got superior service by paying a little more. If a girl goes the extra mile, I have no problem paying her. It establishes a good relationship with her and her friends. Those who complain about the service usually are cheap. That is why some girls will reject a punter to give you a session.[/QUOTE]I accept that this is the only mentality that allows you to have a good time at a club like Oase. Every time I go to Oase I change my mindset to 100 Euro guy and I always have good times there. However, I think this mentality should be contained like a cancer. Oase upselling is a battle not worth fighting, it's the culture there now. But like many other guys here have said, there are plenty of girls (at other clubs) who give great service at standard rates, BBBJ, DATY, FK. Guys who expect that standard service universally are only expecting a standard, reliable price structure. That's not being cheap, that's just responsible spending.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2101904]I accept that this is the only mentality that allows you to have a good time at a club like Oase. Every time I go to Oase I change my mindset to 100 Euro guy and I always have good times there. However, I think this mentality should be contained like a cancer. Oase upselling is a battle not worth fighting, it's the culture there now. But like many other guys here have said, there are plenty of girls (at other clubs) who give great service at standard rates, BBBJ, DATY, FK. Guys who expect that standard service universally are only expecting a standard, reliable price structure. That's not being cheap, that's just responsible spending.[/QUOTE]I have been in the club scene long enough to see standards decline. Sure you can get the ABC menu, what you cannot get in a certain level of authenticity and passion. Most girls do not provide this since it is to personal. But you are more likely to get a little more if you pay more. The laws of economics always applies. Payment does not have to be in money only. Looks, charm, guile, respect are also forms of payment. The players understand this; the cheap folks do not. You are dealing with a person and not a doll. There are always those who say you don't have to tip a concierge or a waiter. Those who know how to tip quietly laugh. They know better. If you look carefully in a club, you will see some girls go and greet a guy the minute he arrives. Ever wonder why and what he gets out of it?
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2101904]I accept that this is the only mentality that allows you to have a good time at a club like Oase. Every time I go to Oase I change my mindset to 100 Euro guy and I always have good times there. However, I think this mentality should be contained like a cancer. Oase upselling is a battle not worth fighting, it's the culture there now. But like many other guys here have said, there are plenty of girls (at other clubs) who give great service at standard rates, BBBJ, DATY, FK. Guys who expect that standard service universally are only expecting a standard, reliable price structure. That's not being cheap, that's just responsible spending.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of guys happy with the 50 E service. The guys with game are not going to lower the level of their play to give the cheap folks a fair chance--especially if the girl is really hot and popular. I see a lot of guy complaining about a big spender taking a girl for the night or cock blocking for hours. They have no reason to stop so other can get a fair shot. Such is life. It is competitive. There are no refs. And no one has to play by your rules. I rarely go to Oase but the same rules applies to most clubs. If you want to pay less, go on the days where there is less demand or pick the more plain girls. Top shelf liquor always costs. One of the reasons I do not go to Switzerland is because there are many men who can outgun me. One Sharks girl told me a punter there gave her a very nice car. You think that girl will be interested in a 50 E guy? HB (who does not post here any more) has the right attitude. He knows that the better girls are at the FKKs because of the big spenders. If they went away, the quality of the girls will decline. He does not get into a bidding war, but he has got game. Responsible spending sounds good, until the girl you want goes with another guy. Peace.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2101823]What was once called "Clubstandard" included full 30 min, DFK, BBBJ, DATY and sex in as many positions as you could think of for the standard 30 min run rate at the club, usually 50. Common extras were CIM and anal for 50/100 in most clubs, 25/50 in NRW. Kissing, COB, digits were NOT an extra.[/QUOTE]If you go far enough back, club standard included some pre and post zimmer time. You will not find that anywhere today. Standards change with time. Prices have not changed in over 10 years. So, the standards have changed as well as the type of girl that shows up in the clubs.
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What's the better Tuesday club? Sharks or oase? Same question about Thursday.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2102229]What's the better Tuesday club? Sharks or oase? Same question about Thursday.[/QUOTE]It varies from week to week. On non-popular days (Friday / Saturday), lineups can be very unpredictable. Plus, you can be there an not even notice the best girls because you are basing your selection on a certain look. Often the best girls are not the most attractive. The attractive girls tend to give below average service because they can survive on their looks along. In any club, a lineup will be considered good or bad based on a few desired girls. Those girls do not show up on a regular schedule.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2101945]HB (who does not post here any more) ....[/QUOTE]He tried to make a comeback last week I think. See below, dated 25th October 2017, in the Sharks thread.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2098161]Laura / Livia usually told me if there was a day when she could not take a good sized dick and she'd wander off to hunt for Asians. In all the sessions I had with her at Oase there were never any restrictions or pain on her side. She is out of business for the moment, don't know if she will return.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2102229]What's the better Tuesday club? Sharks or oase? Same question about Thursday.[/QUOTE]Tuesday is dessous day at Sharks. Thursday is dessous day at Oase. That may help make your decision for you.
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[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2102268]Tuesday is dessous day at Sharks. Thursday is dessous day at Oase. That may help make your decision for you.[/QUOTE]I know but I think I'd rather have better talent vs naked talent. But I'm open for discussion.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2102229]What's the better Tuesday club? Sharks or oase? Same question about Thursday.[/QUOTE]I was at Sharks on a Monday. Good lineup, good girls-punter ratio. I recommend Sharks.
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[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2102268]Tuesday is dessous day at Sharks. Thursday is dessous day at Oase. That may help make your decision for you.[/QUOTE]Or it might not help. See quote below from a report I posted 2 weeks ago after a visit to Oase on a Tuesday.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2096078]Also, many girls now cover their tops and have towels wrapped around their bottoms. Looks like the discipline to keep them nude is gone. So, even on Tuesday, Oase seems to be having a Dessous Tag like in World or Sharks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2101947]If you go far enough back, club standard included some pre and post zimmer time. You will not find that anywhere today. Standards change with time. Prices have not changed in over 10 years. So, the standards have changed as well as the type of girl that shows up in the clubs.[/QUOTE]Plenty of opportunities to get the same standard of service that was available 8-10 years ago without having to pay more. All your posts of big spenders getting all the love may have some obvious truths but it's not a forgone conclusion that 50 euro rooms can't be every bit as good. I'm a no extras guy but I have some girls that I take for 3 hours and some girls that are straight 30 minute girls. Outside of Oase, some of these 30 minute girls give the exact same service as my 3 hour girls.
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Big spenders have been around since I am visiting clubs. Probably more 10-15 years ago than now, I remember guys (locals) who booked girls for a whole day.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2102229]What's the better Tuesday club? Sharks or oase? Same question about Thursday.[/QUOTE]There is no quick for sure answer for this question. It all depends on what you are looking for. The best way is to rent a car and check it out youself. If one of club is not good on that day, you just drive to the others.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2102229]What's the better Tuesday club? Sharks or oase? Same question about Thursday.[/QUOTE]Tuesday: Dessous at Sharks.
Thursday: Dessous at Oase.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2101791]Girls know if you are a pushover with money.[/QUOTE]As I always say, WGs work in sales. Part of that is profiling a customer and knowing how much potential sales can be made, and who the time wasting 50 EUR guys are (like me most of the time). I don't any have any issues with big spenders. I simply accept that they are part of the landscape and lower the average service level at certain clubs. It's been stated many times that certain clubs are shark-infested. If I get a bad 50 EUR session at Oase, I only have myself to blame, because I knew the risks. No point to complain or continually dwell on the past when Oase was less sharky. Short of some global economic catastrophe, history is not going to reverse itself.
Some guys are just filthy rich and have nothing else better to do with their money. Some guys are just upper-middle class but want to flex their money. If they want to spend every last cent to receive attention as a high-roller VIP, that is their prerogative. Everybody deserves to have their fun. I just wish that all the big-spenders out there would understand their value and be more-demanding, if they currently are not. Demanding could be any number of things: AO, BDSM, unpaid time and extras, outside-the-club time, using drugs / alcohol together, or forcing them to act "classy" in the lounge. If you make the decision to spend more, than you are entitled to more, so don't accept less. I am not advocating being disrespectful to the WG, but rather firm negotiation and not being afraid to walk away from the relationship.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2102251]It varies from week to week. On non-popular days (Friday / Saturday), lineups can be very unpredictable. Plus, you can be there an not even notice the best girls because you are basing your selection on a certain look. Often the best girls are not the most attractive. The attractive girls tend to give below average service because they can survive on their looks along. In any club, a lineup will be considered good or bad based on a few desired girls. Those girls do not show up on a regular schedule.[/QUOTE]Fully online with you but in both clubs you can't be disappointed, they have both a lot of girls from all types, the best solution is always to choose your girl and to session her for a 50 euros to see if the chemistry is okay.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2101939]I have been in the club scene long enough to see standards decline. Sure you can get the ABC menu, what you cannot get in a certain level of authenticity and passion. Most girls do not provide this since it is to personal. [/QUOTE]The rest of your post is fair enough, but a few things here.
How can one be sure that at least part of the experienced decline in authenticity and passion is related to ones own level of having experienced the same environment, the same pickup lines and the same approaches ad nauseum?
And how can one self be sure the girls are not noticing this faded interest over time, and that the chemistry could be hurting from this?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2102653]The rest of your post is fair enough, but a few things here.
How can one be sure that at least part of the experienced decline in authenticity and passion is related to ones own level of having experienced the same environment, the same pickup lines and the same approaches ad nauseum?
And how can one self be sure the girls are not noticing this faded interest over time, and that the chemistry could be hurting from this?[/QUOTE]Not so sure, not only the girls may be are providing less GFE but perhaps you are also no more the same as when you enter the first time a FKK. For me it is true I have change a lot in 15 years, at the beginning I had a erection when entering the clubs today I need some stimulation.
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Tuesday lineup
Had some hiccups with the flight coming here, was close to heading home and calling the trip a failure but some fantastic flight attendants got me to my destination although an hour later than booked. Right in time to hit traffic on the way to oase. The lineup hasn't changed much at all, many familiar faces who all came running seeing there was a severe lack of guys the entire day. But that's normal. Did three sessions back to back even with little sleep, all repeats and all were pretty good. Managed another three after a long nap, all repeats again. Few new girls but all were wearing too much or towels to pull the trigger. I'd have to guess a good 20 girls during the day and another 40 for night shift.
Jimmy Boy was right, naked was the best choice. Sadly though this short trip will be my last for some time, grown tired of the scene. I really prefer the party atmosphere of the gogos in Thailand. Tired of the seasoned pro's here where even though the session was good they stick to their routine.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2103371]Had some hiccups with the flight coming here, was close to heading home and calling the trip a failure but some fantastic flight attendants got me to my destination although an hour later than booked. Right in time to hit traffic on the way to oase. The lineup hasn't changed much at all, many familiar faces who all came running seeing there was a severe lack of guys the entire day. But that's normal. Did three sessions back to back even with little sleep, all repeats and all were pretty good. Managed another three after a long nap, all repeats again. Few new girls but all were wearing too much or towels to pull the trigger. I'd have to guess a good 20 girls during the day and another 40 for night shift.
Jimmy Boy was right, naked was the best choice. Sadly though this short trip will be my last for some time, grown tired of the scene. I really prefer the party atmosphere of the gogos in Thailand. Tired of the seasoned pro's here where even though the session was good they stick to their routine.[/QUOTE]You are right, the things are getting very mechanical with most of the new girls, they are nice, young etc. But usually lacking of sensibility. In Thailand you are getting party atmosphere which is more and more difficult to get in the big clubs in Germany, the girls are too money focused and not willing to build a kind of customer base. Also the registration is putting a lot of negative stress in their head, each girl I met in the last weeks is asking me about it.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2102369]Big spenders have been around since I am visiting clubs. Probably more 10-15 years ago than now, I remember guys (locals) who booked girls for a whole day.[/QUOTE]Still happens. 8 hours or more in a room, or at least 'taken' and walks around in robes, or is being paid for the time. But usually on a Friday or a Saturday. And sometimes, but not always in VIP rooms and perhaps with an additional girl or two into the mix also. That whole night can cost up to 5000 e (But normally when it is like that it is split between 2 or 3 friends. But I've seen solo guys spending 2000-2500 in a night also. If they make more than a six digit sum in a year and is out of stuff to spend it on, as well as having limited time, I guess it can be understandable. But for that amount its probably money better spent to stay a full week.
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What's up with all the new receptionists in Oase? You can keep giving misinformation on to clients to help your ex fellow WGs.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2103766]Still happens. 8 hours or more in a room, or at least 'taken' and walks around in robes, or is being paid for the time. But usually on a Friday or a Saturday. And sometimes, but not always in VIP rooms and perhaps with an additional girl or two into the mix also. That whole night can cost up to 5000 e (But normally when it is like that it is split between 2 or 3 friends. But I've seen solo guys spending 2000-2500 in a night also. If they make more than a six digit sum in a year and is out of stuff to spend it on, as well as having limited time, I guess it can be understandable. But for that amount its probably money better spent to stay a full week.[/QUOTE]Yes it happens in Shark or Oase or World. Guys booking girls for full days or even more, for me I like staying 4 or 5 hours with a girl in the room but I don't feel good to book her for a full day, it must be boring at the end.
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Hey guys,
I'm planning a trip to another part of Europe and many of the flights have long layovers in either Frankfurt or Berlin so I have to choose one. I'm really into curvier, thicker girls. How are the girls at Oase these days? I came here a few years ago and it was pretty good but I'm sure things have changed since then. If I choose Frankfurt, I'll visit Palace and / or Oase. Any girls with big butts?
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[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;2104069]Hey guys,
I'm planning a trip to another part of Europe and many of the flights have long layovers in either Frankfurt or Berlin so I have to choose one. I'm really into curvier, thicker girls. How are the girls at Oase these days? I came here a few years ago and it was pretty good but I'm sure things have changed since then. If I choose Frankfurt, I'll visit Palace and / or Oase. Any girls with big butts?[/QUOTE]Very white skin Roxana has curvy ass with amazing vagina small lips when you get her in doggy.
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Joe Shmoe, big butts.
Hey Joe,
The biggest butts in Frankfurt FKKs are in FKK sharks with Anjelica / Latvia and Winnipuh / Africa. Mediumsize butts is another 5 good ones with Lavinia, Rafaela, Christina from Romania, and if present Leah / Germany!
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Oct 17 tour: Day 3 Sun 8 Oct FKK Oase
Oase has traditionally been my favourite club but felt it has slipped slightly behind Sharks and Palace the past couple of years in terms of quality and service and so I tend not to give it the prime Friday or Saturday slots these days. I've also generally been happy with the number of girls in Oase on a Sunday so decided not to risk an unknown day at Palace or Sharks. I had to catch a train in the evening to Munich so it was a shorter visit than usual and despite me getting there earlier at around 2 pm, I only managed two shots before I left at 8 pm. There were perhaps 60 girls around and entry was the reduced E50 as I got there before 4 pm.
7. Amy:- There were some very good looking girls who I had not seen before and was sorely tempted with some of the pleasant approaches. 7 of the 8 girls I had the two previous days were varying degrees of blondes so was craving a brunette now. If brunettes are your preference, I felt the quality of brunettes was easily the best at Oase and for my first session I chose Amy.
Amy is young (perhaps 20), very nice looking, good figure, no tattoos and has superb natural tits. She has a really fresh, natural look about her and it was an easy choice. She was also a good performer and the session consisted of me having a nice chew on her nipples before lying back and enjoying Amy's considerable oral skills. E100.
8. Vanessa and Beatrice:- Realised I only had an hour left so it was time for my daily threesome. Vanessa is a nice looking blonde with a trim figure who I've taken most times on my last few visits. In fact she told me this was the 5th time and each time I had doubled up with a brunette. I was quite taken with Beatrice as facially she was very attractive with dark, doe eyed features and long curly black hair and had considered her for my first session but chose Amy instead. Beatrice said she thought we had been in the room before though I don't recall her (she said her previous stage name was Rebecca but the only girl she reminded me of was the Demi Moore lookalike Vika though she had shorter hair and her service was not as good as Beatrice's).
As I was having one less session than usual, I thought about a trio and had spotted Hungarian Elizabeth (who was one of my two "hope to sees" but she had obviously got snapped up) but when we went to collect the key my other "hope to see" tall, slim, small tit brunette Daniella who I've had a few times walked into the club. I told her what room we were in and asked her to join us when she got undressed and ready. As it was she never turned up.
Nevertheless, it was a memorable session which mainly consisted of them taking turns to blow me whilst the other teased me either by licking my nipples or presenting hers for me to enjoy. Vanessa was her consistently good self but I was really impressed with Beatrice and she has the potential to become a regular. It is a bit of a blur now but recall a bit of doggy with Vanessa and missionary with Beatrice (and I needed Daniella for her cowgirl as I rate her cowgirl as the best I've had) and finished with them tossing me off. A memorable hour. E200.
On the way out bumped into Daniella who had misunderstood my request and instead thought I'd told her I'd see her later but she gave me a bit of a kiss and a squeeze to keep me interested for next time.
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Friday 14:30 - 19:45
LU growing steadily throughout the afternoon and no male crowds. Same buyer's market I'd witnessed years ago at Sharks' and it had also been on a Friday. Even allowing for a 20 euro tip / upsell and the occasionnal 100 euro upseller / scammer, where else in the World can I lick, finger and poke such gorgeous women for so little money? Not just sexy figures or pretty faces but the two together, sexy figures and pretty faces gathered on the same girl, where else? And the sheer variety of them all, not beautiful clones of one another as you would get in ethnically constrained pussy countries but an array of different types of sexiness, curvaceousness and facial perfection. This is Europe allright, with its History of wars, invasions and race mixing.
My bet is that even with a starting rate at 150 euros instead of 50 a club like this can stay in business.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2104338]7. Amy:- There were some very good looking girls who I had not seen before and was sorely tempted with some of the pleasant approaches. 7 of the 8 girls I had the two previous days were varying degrees of blondes so was craving a brunette now. If brunettes are your preference, I felt the quality of brunettes was easily the best at Oase and for my first session I chose Amy.
Amy is young (perhaps 20), very nice looking, good figure, no tattoos and has superb natural tits. She has a really fresh, natural look about her and it was an easy choice. She was also a good performer and the session consisted of me having a nice chew on her nipples before lying back and enjoying Amy's considerable oral skills. E100.[/QUOTE]Amy is a treat!
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2104338]
Amy is young (perhaps 20), very nice looking, good figure, no tattoos and has superb natural tits. She has a really fresh, natural look about her and it was an easy choice. She was also a good performer and the session consisted of me having a nice chew on her nipples before lying back and enjoying Amy's considerable oral skills. E100.
[/QUOTE]I believe I heard (or read) that this WG may be at Oase now. She is ex-World. Would this be your same Amy?
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2104471]I believe I heard (or read) that this WG may be at Oase now. She is ex-World. Would this be your same Amy?[/QUOTE]Yes that is her. She is at Oase currently. Nice tits.
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Amy
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2104471]I believe I heard (or read) that this WG may be at Oase now. She is ex-World. Would this be your same Amy?[/QUOTE]Yes- that's her. I recognise her from her tits! Her hair is darker now and better for it.
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Jennifer with bee sting lips for Be Wilder
This is a public service annoucement for Be Wilder confirming that Jennifer with the bee sting lips is currently at Oase.
She still looks made up and wears a fair amount of clothing for a FKK girl.
I hope you make it to see her.
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Navigation.
FYI. I used navigation from my rental car and it only took me to the town nearby. I had to just go on the main road outside of town and eventually after a couple turns I happened upon it. Any advice on how to program Oase or other places in the navigation using English? A big PITA as has saved the WAZE map location, but didn't have roaming internet, so just luckily kept that open to guide me from the dynamic map which had stopped me at the local town. Easy I'm sure for the vets, but my first time driving to Oase. Took train to local station other times.
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Jennifer
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2104592]This is a public service annoucement for Be Wilder confirming that Jennifer with the bee sting lips is currently at Oase.
She still looks made up and wears a fair amount of clothing for a FKK girl.
I hope you make it to see her.[/QUOTE]Fantastic (and very funny) - I guess I do go on about her (and Fidan) a bit too much but they were easily my top two FKK girls of all time and by some distance. And given I've been with 145 girls at FKKs that is some tribute. Hopefully she will be there the next time I'm in town though I'm not really sure when that will be but thanks for the update.
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[QUOTE=CaliMan;2104598]FYI. I used navigation from my rental car and it only took me to the town nearby. I had to just go on the main road outside of town and eventually after a couple turns I happened upon it. Any advice on how to program Oase or other places in the navigation using English? A big PITA as has saved the WAZE map location, but didn't have roaming internet, so just luckily kept that open to guide me from the dynamic map which had stopped me at the local town. Easy I'm sure for the vets, but my first time driving to Oase. Took train to local station other times.[/QUOTE]I never used Rental Car GPS. I bought myself a TOTOM with world map in it. Amazon sell it for $140-150. It will let you update map for life. Before you leave home. Sync with the lasted map for Europe. Google Oase's physical address and put it into your GPS as favorite. You are all set then.
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Cause for concern?
Are these two things related? Situation this afternoon where security came outside and talked to a guest with a girl waiting by the door and the massive stampeed of girls into the back room at 730 pm?
Was the guy charged for something that officially can't be charged anymore? Coincidence that it happened 5 hours after and basically made the club into a gay house of men.
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15 minutes
Meeting took a bit over 15 minutes, long enough for me to grab dinner and do the first report.
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Girls going into the back
Line of girls heading to the dressing room, one leaving so far.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2104724]Meeting took a bit over 15 minutes, long enough for me to grab dinner and do the first report.[/QUOTE]Mauro has these meetings once in a while, mainly to ***** about girls not following rules with regards to towels, chewinh gum and so on. Once upon a time he used it also to explain what the guests expected service wise (or so I have heard), but obviously he stopped caring about that a long time ago. In any case, he does this in German so if you ask a random girl what happened, they shrug and say they didn't understand a word.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2104728]Line of girls heading to the dressing room, one leaving so far.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I don't understand the meaning of your comment.
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Nice report Be Wilder. I also find Beatrice very attractive. Not sure why she is not too busy. I was in Oase a few Sundays ago. It was a buyer market. Even Lara / Laura was not so busy. I had sessions with:
[B]Anna[/B] - small ROM, dark hair, beautiful brown eyes, perky A / be, I find her attractive but for some reason she said Asian doesn't go with her. Weird, as I thought she would fit the profile. I hit it off really well with her and if my regular at Oase is not careful, she will leap over them.
[B]Lara/Laura[/B] - I have been with her before and the session was good. Normally our timing does not always line up but this time she was freely available, all night. Had a passionate session with her.
[B]Ada[/B] - ROM, somewhat tall, very fit, skinny body, A cup. It's funny, Lara actually dragged her to come talk to me and introduced her to me. Had a nice time with her.
I wanted to take [B]Vicky[/B] and promised her I would take her before she leaves, which is normally around 10 pm. But I was with [B]Anna[/B] from 7-9 pm. By the time I was out, I didn't see her until around 9:45 pm where she was in street clothes leaving the club.
Also, wanted to take [B]Beatrice[/B] but by the time I was ready, she went and talked to other customer and the guy took her. I had a great time at Oase. My favorite Veronica and her friend Kati were missing (which I knew). Antonia also was not there. It sucks that most of the girls I like are in day shift. I normally don't arrive to the club until after 5-6pm so it's hard to fit them all in before they go home for the day.
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Looks like things are back to normal. Girl wouldn't say what the meeting was about.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;2104758]Looks like things are back to normal. Girl wouldn't say what the meeting was about.[/QUOTE]This kind of meetings are very usual, they are telling the girls about their attitude, that they need to be clean, shaved, makeup, they have to clean the rooms after a session etc. They will not go into the details of the service in the rooms. More and more girls are taking drugs in the clubs this also starts to be a strong point of concern for the management.
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[QUOTE=CaliMan;2104598]FYI. I used navigation from my rental car and it only took me to the town nearby. I had to just go on the main road outside of town and eventually after a couple turns I happened upon it. Any advice on how to program Oase or other places in the navigation using English? A big PITA as has saved the WAZE map location, but didn't have roaming internet, so just luckily kept that open to guide me from the dynamic map which had stopped me at the local town. Easy I'm sure for the vets, but my first time driving to Oase. Took train to local station other times.[/QUOTE]Ober-Erlenbacher Strasse in Bad Homburg takes you to the road outside.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2105118]Ober-Erlenbacher Strasse in Bad Homburg takes you to the road outside.[/QUOTE]Agreed. You need to include the house number which is 109 in the coordinates.
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I have never had issue with car rental GPS taking me to Oase. It might tells you to take different route than google map but it always get me there. You can use offline google map feature and download FRA map. Then you can be in Airplane mode and still able to use google map to go to Oase.
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Rimming?
Hi guys,
How common is rimming? I mean do you find it easy / hard to get?
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My old GPS used to bring me to some random place a mile or two away. My current one (Here WeGo) for iOS is fine.
If in doubt punch in the exact coordinates:
50 degrees 14'27.30" North
8 degrees 40'39.89" East
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2105183]I have never had issue with car rental GPS taking me to Oase. It might tells you to take different route than google map but it always get me there. You can use offline google map feature and download FRA map. Then you can be in Airplane mode and still able to use google map to go to Oase.[/QUOTE]Last time after I picked some of ISG friends and headed to Oase, there was auto accident on the way to there. The location is about 7-8 minutes away from Oase in country side. I was worried and had to detour, but it found its way to there.
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Rimming service
[QUOTE=CarExpert;2105464]Hi guys,
How common is rimming? I mean do you find it easy / hard to get?[/QUOTE]Rimming can be found. The girls that do the service inclusive in a session are few, the chances increase when extra money is on offer.
Just ask around the girls until you find one that does.
Liliana BG, a blonde, rims your ass hole with her tongue and she really gets in there for a half hour session.
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Download the map on Google maps to use it offline and you should be fine.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2105118]Ober-Erlenbacher Strasse in Bad Homburg takes you to the road outside.[/QUOTE]Better in Friedrichsdorf.
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[QUOTE=CarExpert;2105464]Hi guys,
How common is rimming? I mean do you find it easy / hard to get?[/QUOTE]If are consider as a nice guy, respecting the girls you can get everything in a club, if you are consider as a crazy, silly guy with no respect for the girls you will probably not get it from a beautiful and well know girl, but from a new girl it will be possible. Don t advise you to go from one girl to another and asking for it 10 or 20 times, this is mostly what the girls don t like because they are consider as a product after in the room it will be a very mechanical service. They will do the job that is all.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2104086]Very white skin Roxana has curvy ass with amazing vagina small lips when you get her in doggy.[/QUOTE]She always says that the dick its to big for her.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2106471]She always says that the dick its to big for her.[/QUOTE]Roxana never said for our rooms on end of 2014. What a doggy with her.
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Lots of crap spoken. Some good advice as well.
Here is my experience this week at Oase and other clibs fact and fiction.
FACT.
Guys spending 100 are getting so called club standard service from 10 years or more ago on average.
Big spenders are annoying to small spenders.
Every day is dessous day at Oase. It sucks.
They do chew gum in your face at Oase but not at other club's.
Oase is getting more hygienic.
Club owners have said BBBJ ends when they say it ends. They are very annoyed right now.
The girls are trying to restrict kissing for extra money but not all do.
FICTION.
Girls who get given a car for merely hanging around with a rich guy won't have time for the 50 guy. Wrong because every night they are predators who never know where the next 50 is coming from. They will fuck a dog for fifty one day and a king for a thousand the next.
Upsell and "where you go. Vee gets shatz. Why is not go with me" girls are more prevalent than they always were. Nope. It's been worse and it's been better. All part of the natural ebb and flow or club culture.
You have to shop around more for good service. There may be some truth in this but bad service was always around. Just ask what is included and if they won't give it to you then move on. Stop blaming rich guys for long bookings. It's more to do with prices being static for seventeen years.
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2106768]Here is my experience this week at oase and other clibs fact and fiction.
FACT.
Guys spending 100 are getting so called club standard service from 10 years or more ago on average.
Big spenders are annoying to small spenders.
Every day is dessous day at oase. It sucks.
They do chew gum in your face at oase but not at other club's.
Oase is getting more hygenic.
Club owners have said BBBJ ends when they say it ends. They are very annoyed right now.
The girls are trying to restrict kissing for extra money but not all do..[/QUOTE]So BBBJ is still possible?
Planning on doing a double header sharks and Oase Dec. 20/21.
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[QUOTE=BigDaddyStr;2108097]So BBBJ is still possible?[/QUOTE]Still possible. Make sure you confirm with the girl ahead of time and let her know that it is a dealbreaker. You may have to throw a few back, but there are plenty of choices.
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Friday 11/25
I was there two days ago. It was my 4th visit. I'm still thinking it's the best club.
I've been there from 17 to 21.30. Full of girls, a lot of stunning ones. There were always much more girls than clients.
But no one pressed too much to go.
I got only 3, I got two wonderful services and one (a greek brunette) a little boring and trying to oversell.
I had a great profesional services from a 31 years old romanian, looking much younger, maybe called Raissa.
And from a tall blond ukrainian girl.
I wanted to try much more but I was tired and I was relaxed.
No problem with normal kissing, I don't want DFK. Each one tried to sell CIM.
I don't want to pay more than 50 euros, and it was fine.
I like so much oase.
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[QUOTE=BigDaddyStr;2108097]So BBBJ is still possible?
Planning on doing a double header sharks and Oase Dec. 20/21.[/QUOTE]You should not have problem about BJ, because CIM is very on sale at Oase, for extra 50 . Many Sharks girls also propose. Some guys don t even have time to fuck, but have to pay 100 for 10/15 mn with CIM, when they are not able to control themselves.
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[QUOTE=Arkiloko;2109674]I was there two days ago. It was my 4th visit. I'm still thinking it's the best club.
I've been there from 17 to 21.30. Full of girls, a lot of stunning ones. There were always much more girls than clients.
But no one pressed too much to go.
I got only 3, I got two wonderful services and one (a greek brunette) a little boring and trying to oversell.
I had a great profesional services from a 31 years old romanian, looking much younger, maybe called Raissa.
And from a tall blond ukrainian girl.
I wanted to try much more but I was tired and I was relaxed.
No problem with normal kissing, I don't want DFK. Each one tried to sell CIM.
I don't want to pay more than 50 euros, and it was fine.
I like so much oase.[/QUOTE]I was at Sharks on the 18th, and then Oase on the the 20th and 21th. I overspent on 3 of the 5 sessions. Two were 50 and they were good. One was 200 at Oase but it was anything I wanted including anal. I enjoyed it. It is my own fault if I didn't get more of ny my moneys worth out of that. My experience is that some of them want to sell you everything and they will get you in the room to try to do that by being vague. I liked Oase because the lady up front explained things better, and I like separate locker for the wallet. The robe was better. The taxi drivers did not over charge me. I liked the facilities better, but did not like the porn playing. The food was good at both places, but it was really great at Oase. I found two ladies in the Frankfurt RLD that I really liked. One gave me more of what I really wanted than anyone else on the trip. The other was something that I have not come across very often so she was great too and something I wanted. I liked the fish tank in Sharks and the number of women. I'll be better able to zero in on what I what next time with less cost.
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Raissa is a fun girl. Always gives a good service.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2109712]You should not have problem about BJ, because CIM is very on sale at Oase, for extra 50 . Many Sharks girls also propose. Some guys don t even have time to fuck, but have to pay 100 for 10/15 mn with CIM, when they are not able to control themselves.[/QUOTE]Yes but those are best customers for the girls, CIM within 10 minutes, obviously very low sexual education for those guys probably the same who are able to shower fully naked.
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[QUOTE=KnightMid;2109834]I was at Sharks on the 18th, and then Oase on the the 20th and 21th. I overspent on 3 of the 5 sessions. Two were 50 and they were good. One was 200 at Oase but it was anything I wanted including anal. I enjoyed it.[/QUOTE]I also wanted to try Shark, but had no time. Maybe next time. But it's hard for me not going to Oase.
Are they different? You know, lineup can be random.
Overspending may happen. I always do, sometimes that's even nice. Sometime you feel robbed. But that's the game.
Bytheway how much does it cost going to Oase by taxi?
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Taxicosts to Oase.
From Frankfurt main / station it's 42,- euros on the shortest route.
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[QUOTE=Arkiloko;2110694]I also wanted to try Shark, but had no time. Maybe next time. But it's hard for me not going to Oase.
Are they different? You know, lineup can be random.
Overspending may happen. I always do, sometimes that's even nice. Sometime you feel robbed. But that's the game.
Bytheway how much does it cost going to Oase by taxi?[/QUOTE]From where?
From Friedrichsdolf train station to Oase is around E10.
From Fra airport is around E55-70.
From Frankfurt downtown is about E50?
From Shark?
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My trip stories
It is good to be back to oase again after so long. Oase is a place that I have always liked. I also like visiting on dessous day but for the few days I was there it was like it was dessous day the whole time. Thursday lineup is not too strong but has more girls than men. Friday is better with more girls and also quite busy. Saturday was the busiest with a packed up club, and party atmosphere. I stayed from afternoon till 12 on most days and stayed till close on 1 day and found out it was not too worth it as none of my favourites works the night shift. There was a few I would like to see again when I was there in may but they were not there. I was told its this way since people are on holiday.
Met some old faces who recognise me such as Alexia or Alexa? Romanian who looks asian and is short. Saw Alina and her friend she walks with, Beatrice, Vickie and her group, Marie, Vanessa, Ramona, Elizabeth, new girls- Alma, a pretty cute lebanese,2 ukrainians, and a swedish girl who use to work in switzerland. And also a few familiar faces that I don't know their names, and also some I have never talked to or got approached. A few black girls including diana, but all of them including diana do not look attractive to me.
I was with Alina for 30 minutes session and could not concentrate because of the other couple in another room making loud fake noises. Sounds very like diana. We just had to laugh, and alina being playful just copied her. I just could not concentrate on doing it, even with alina trying to make me concentrate on her I could not finish. Alina is a friend of Anna but this time she walks around with a blonde friend of hers which is also has been there for some time. At down time after sauna, lounging on the sofa and people watch. Seeing happy faces in front of money lockers, sad faces, displeased faces etc. Also people who after paying walk straight to a sofa and sit without showering, saw this when a guy was paying vicky. After paying he just walked to the couch next to me and start sitting down. That is actually gross. Maybe people here are right, I see girls bring guys which I think are turkish and already at the lockers in 15 minutes.
Also see vicky walking around with her blonde friend to look for customers and 8/10 times her friend walks back alone. Poor girl. Also seen her succeed with threesome with vicky. Have not tried them duo.
Alma who is quite a new girl from France / romania was at the dining table with the lebanese and 2 more romanian girls eating when I met her. Has a tatto of flower or rose? On her shoulder. Nice and pretty girl very good time spent with her. The crazy fake moan strikes again on the first time I was with her, and we just played along and told her to talk dirty to me in french and match the voice of the girl in another room, untill I laughed and told her to stop. Even she said that was too much.
I was then first called over by Vanessa and we just talked and I told her maybe later, after a while beatrice came by and both of them offered 3 some. Did not take the offer and I excused myself.
Also saw this pale looking girl who has been working there for some time. She used to have blonde hair which curls at the few inches at the tip of her hair, but this time she dyed to straight, chesnut or reddish hair. Big boobs nice ass, don't know her name as she never apporaches me. Finds mostly asians. Think she said she is from russia but was walking around with her romanian friend with even bigger boobs than hers. Was lounging on a white sofa and when she and her friend was about to approach me, she pulls her romanian friend away to avoid me. LOL really? What I do?
One thing is if some of these girls are not your regular but have seen you quite alot is that they remember if you ever been with them or not. Few such examples are with the famous ramona, and veronica. They saw me and came to say Hi, and after abit ask me if I am taking them to room today, but I did not feel like it so rejected them but not after telling them that I did in fact go with them to the room the last time I was there, and they believed it. I have not been with ramona or veronica before eventhough I know they are quite busy famous.
Saw Elizabeth this trip a few times, and still a very very busy girl eventough she is getting fatter. She does not look attractive to me any longer. I guess she does not need to lose weight with that business. Diana is one girl that needs to watch what she says to customers as one day if she is not careful she will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] someone off. She might seem like she is joking but those kind of mocking, teasing, joking is crude and off putting.
I was told Anna, Alina's friend will be back next week. I then went with beatrice for 1 hour tryout. Was a good session and repeat with her again on one of the few days I was there. She has the nicest ass I seen. Saw a dark haired ukrainian with red lipstick, was waiting for her to approach but it did not happen.
Irina the russian girl with braids is back again after more than a year hiatus, this time with straight blonde hair. nice to see her again. still as playful as before. also saw Amy with the very droopy boobs with a beautiful wide smile.
I had a good few days overall in Oase with a day visit to palace. Will be back again when vacation time allows.
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Continued
On Saturday night met a girl with dark hair who claims to be from Iraq. LOL don't know if I should believe her. She tried proving she is so by speaking in arab, which I have no idea what did she say. She sits at the table stand nearest to the gaming machine and on the first table on the left where the black girls always sits.
One thing about avoiding up sells is to be careful, which I did not. Went with a girl from Moldavia with glasses who has dark hair and is always wearing a shirt only exposing her legs up to almost her chest. She was wearing pink on Friday or Saturday I can't remember. I forgot her name but will remember if someone have an idea. Said I will go 1 hour with her thinking it will be a nice time. Agreed on service and in room told me kissing is 50 euros more, and kept on giving me upsells wanting 150 eu for the service of kissing, touching etc. She is not new there. She then said she is just joking. I told her I will walk out and only give her 50 eu for 30 min if she does not cut it out.
Did not see Amelia, but her friends including Brianna is there. Amelia actually asked me if she gave a good service to me when I went with her a few months ago. Afyer me rejecting her all the time, she knows to not try cheating like Brianna.
Noticed that plenty of them wants extra for DATY, and 1 of them just say no to me. DFK only happens to regulars.
The new placement of couches does not isolate smoke well at all. I had a second hand smoke high while sitting on one of those sofas. Food is not as good as back in may, meat are dry. I like may to July line up better but Nov is a good time also. Not too cold in Frankfurt, with some sunny days.
Alma is the only girl that is the reminiscent of the old oase where you get very good service for 100 euro. At least for me it did.
I was offered by a few girls to come back to my hotel or have a dinner date night.should have told me earlier but I was leaving back home. One girl also offered to give me a ride back to my hotel,but since it was 2 different directions that did not happen.this girl has known me for some time.
Anyone took up the offer of dinner dates etc? Or anyone carpooled with a girl back to your hotel? Lol
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[QUOTE=Nuupter;2111001]Alma is the only girl that is the reminiscent of the old oase where you get very good service for 100 euro. At least for me it did.
I was offered by a few girls to come back to my hotel or have a dinner date night.should have told me earlier but I was leaving back home. One girl also offered to give me a ride back to my hotel,but since it was 2 different directions that did not happen.this girl has known me for some time.
Anyone took up the offer of dinner dates etc? Or anyone carpooled with a girl back to your hotel? Lol[/QUOTE]A few girls? I did not know the girls still do that. The last time I got such an offer was nine years ago when the girls were genuinely friendly. Went on a road trip with a tall Hungarian babe with whom I was very close, with her car, and shut down on the autobhan. Great memories.
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[QUOTE=Nuupter;2111001]On Saturday night met a girl with dark hair who claims to be from Iraq. LOL don't know if I should believe her. She tried proving she is so by speaking in arab, which I have no idea what did she say. She sits at the table stand nearest to the gaming machine and on the first table on the left where the black girls always sits.
One thing about avoiding up sells is to be careful, which I did not. Went with a girl from Moldavia with glasses who has dark hair and is always wearing a shirt only exposing her legs up to almost her chest. She was wearing pink on Friday or Saturday I can't remember. I forgot her name but will remember if someone have an idea. Said I will go 1 hour with her thinking it will be a nice time. Agreed on service and in room told me kissing is 50 euros more, and kept on giving me upsells wanting 150 eu for the service of kissing, touching etc. She is not new there. She then said she is just joking. I told her I will walk out and only give her 50 eu for 30 min if she does not cut it out.
Did not see Amelia, but her friends including Brianna is there. Amelia actually asked me if she gave a good service to me when I went with her a few months ago. Afyer me rejecting her all the time, she knows to not try cheating like Brianna.[/QUOTE]I have done it many times, no risk if you know the girl since several weeks or months, better to negotiate the price or costs if any before you enter the car or the restaurant. Is the girl considering that she will be paid if yes how much, but the girl can also just want to go out with you, everything is possible but usually she will expect something.
Make everything very clear before, so you will really enjoy the time with her, and probably you will discover a completely other person that in the club.
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Alma
[QUOTE=Nuupter;2111001]Alma is the only girl that is the reminiscent of the old oase where you get very good service for 100 euro. At least for me it did. [/QUOTE]Yes, I got good service from her too for 100 euros. But in the old Oase of 5-8 years back, I got very good service for just 50 euros!
She claimed that she was French and that she stayed in Paris. But she did not know there was a Pont d'Alma there nor what a pont was, nor various other places in Paris. But I did not really care where she was from as long as service was good. Told her that Paris was the capital of Romania, but she did not catch the joke.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2111076]A few girls? I did not know the girls still do that. The last time I got such an offer was nine years ago when the girls were genuinely friendly. Went on a road trip with a tall Hungarian babe with whom I was very close, with her car, and shut down on the autobhan. Great memories.[/QUOTE]Yeah you get this. There have even been offers from Oase girls to come stay in their flat instead of staying in Frankfurt since there is room and it will cool to hang out.
You get offers for escort or seeing outside of the club all the time.
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Last week end at Oase.
I have to say the line up last week end was fantastic, much better than back in August. I had trouble choosing any girl. I have noticed that the solicitation has dropped a lot, girls are less insistent and more pleasant now. A year ago it was impossible to take two steps to get a drink without being solicited. Now it is perfect for me. As far as upselling goes, I try to be clear at the very beginning (before the room) on what I want and it's usually OK afterwards.
First session was with a gorgeous Ro girl called Adina, petite style, red hair. Very soft skin, nice personality, and good skills in the room. A major turn on.
Second session a but later was with no other than gorgeous Elizabeth, difficult to catch, but oh my god, what a lady. I don't need I think to describe her more, she's got blue eyes and clear hair, a little short, and a mesmerizing smile.
On the next day I saw Anna, gorgeous Ro blonde with fun attitude. Spent more time in the room with her as I was enjoying the time. Also great skills, drove me crazy.
There were at least four or five other girls I wanted to try but had other engagements and had to leave. I will be back for them next time.
It's true the food has reverted to what it was a long time ago before the fresh fruit platter and the smoked salmon. It's back to "normal". Still, all in all, this remains the very best club in my opinion, I am a very big fan.
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[QUOTE=Nuupter;2110788]Saw Elizabeth this trip a few times, and still a very very busy girl eventough she is getting fatter. She does not look attractive to me any longer. I guess she does not need to lose weight with that business..[/QUOTE]Maybe correct for the weight, but she is still the top notch in the room. Outstanding service and fun personality. Certainly why she remains the most popular girl in the club.
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Elisabeth is one of my top favorite, very clean girl, extremely service oriented at least with me, one of the best BJ of the year, also she will provide anal, and on top of that she is not at all afraid by body contact etc. For those who are always putting Mandy so high I just recommend them to session Elisabeth and to compare, after body shape is matter of personal feelings. Compare to Annah and Alina who are also offering all kind of extra, I sessioned them many times but I consider that they are both very nice etc. But the contact with Elisabeth is better may be link to chemistry, but nevertheless for those who are looking for young, clean girls offering a lot of extra you can not do something wrong, obviously I don't recommend a 50 euro session. Be careful Annah and Alina are from the day shift.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2111177]Yeah you get this. There have even been offers from Oase girls to come stay in their flat instead of staying in Frankfurt since there is room and it will cool to hang out.
You get offers for escort or seeing outside of the club all the time.[/QUOTE]Apparently the girls don't want to hang out with me now that I'm on the other side of 60. From experience they know that I have to pound longer, harder, and in different positions to come.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2111569]Apparently the girls don't want to hang out with me now that I'm on the other side of 60. From experience they know that I have to pound longer, harder, and in different positions to come.[/QUOTE]Good work that you are getting your money's worth. I am not worthy. I believe you will be banging, pounding longer and harder than I will be I admit and in a kama sutra listing of positions. Keep it up both figuratively and physically.
Thumbs up!
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[QUOTE=Leduq;2111231]It's true the food has reverted to what it was a long time ago before the fresh fruit platter and the smoked salmon. It's back to "normal". Still, all in all, this remains the very best club in my opinion, I am a very big fan.[/QUOTE]I've to say I ate a really good rice and chicken. And wurstel and pizza were good too. I won't go to Oase for food, but when I was there I enjoyed it.
I'm a very big fan too, never been in other FKK but I think it's hard to find better.
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First of all, great report Leduq and specially Nuupter!
[QUOTE=Leduq;2111231]I have to say the line up last week end was fantastic, much better than back in August....
Second session a but later was with no other than gorgeous Elizabeth, difficult to catch, but oh my god, what a lady. I don't need I think to describe her more, she's got blue eyes and clear hair, a little short, and a mesmerizing smile.
On the next day I saw [B]Anna[/B], gorgeous Ro blonde with fun attitude. Spent more time in the room with her as I was enjoying the time. Also great skills, drove me crazy.
[/QUOTE]Do we have two [B]Anna[/B] in the club? The one I know was short / small dark hair, with beautiful brown eyes, day shift, good friend with the red hair Alina, and she was out last week (per Nuupter).
I also find Elizabeth attractive, even with her adding on some weight. She actually just got back from her vacation in Thailand. She got a very bad sunburn there. So, if you look closely, she still has a bikini tan line on her butt. Many ROM girls alway ask me what do guys see in her, LOL. Though, I must say that she looks much better naked than when she has clothes on.
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[QUOTE=Leduq;2111234]Maybe correct for the weight, but she is still the top notch in the room. Outstanding service and fun personality. Certainly why she remains the most popular girl in the club.[/QUOTE]Hungarian Elisabeth? She never was a good session for me. And she should do something about her weight, going the wrong direction.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2111610]First of all, great report Leduq and specially Nuupter!
Do we have two [B]Anna[/B] in the club? The one I know was short / small dark hair, with beautiful brown eyes, day shift, good friend with the red hair Alina, and she was out last week (per Nuupter).
I also find Elizabeth attractive, even with her adding on some weight. She actually just got back from her vacation in Thailand. She got a very bad sunburn there. So, if you look closely, she still has a bikini tan line on her butt. Many ROM girls alway ask me what do guys see in her, LOL. Though, I must say that she looks much better naked than when she has clothes on.[/QUOTE]Anna didn't go anywhere. I hope.
Food is as good as dog stool. They have less service people on the floor and it is visible; service is terrible and no soap many times. Girls at the reception are extremely rude. Bad service experience in the last few times, but LU is improved significantly while also taking in some stray cats.
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[QUOTE=Arkiloko;2111589]I've to say I ate a really good rice and chicken. And wurstel and pizza were good too. I won't go to Oase for food, but when I was there I enjoyed it.
I'm a very big fan too, never been in other FKK but I think it's hard to find better.[/QUOTE]The meat to me was dry at least to me. The kebab was also dry. Food tasted better back in may.
Only good food is pizza,and the potato with garlic sauce.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2111610]First of all, great report Leduq and specially Nuupter!
Do we have two [B]Anna[/B] in the club? The one I know was short / small dark hair, with beautiful brown eyes, day shift, good friend with the red hair Alina, and she was out last week (per Nuupter).
I also find Elizabeth attractive, even with her adding on some weight. She actually just got back from her vacation in Thailand. She got a very bad sunburn there. So, if you look closely, she still has a bikini tan line on her butt. Many ROM girls alway ask me what do guys see in her, LOL. Though, I must say that she looks much better naked than when she has clothes on.[/QUOTE]Thanks! There is not only 2 Anna, but also 2 Beatrice. The one I was with has reddish hair not alina red. She has a mole on one of her underside of her breast Tall on high heels and that ass is big and perfect. The other is short even on high heels.
The girls seemed to find something new and fun to do when they are bored, or its a new game for them LOL. They pull chewing gums LOL.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2111574]Good work that you are getting your money's worth. I am not worthy. I believe you will be banging, pounding longer and harder than I will be I admit and in a kama sutra listing of positions. Keep it up both figuratively and physically.
Thumbs up![/QUOTE]I will trade places with you any day. You get to hang out in their flat and pound them multiple times at your leisure while I only get a 1/2 hr session continually watching the clock.
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I think the concept of FKK is pretty much dead at Oase. Jeez, I've seen women wearing less clothing in mosques...
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2115106]I think the concept of FKK is pretty much dead at Oase. Jeez, I've seen women wearing less clothing in mosques...[/QUOTE]Saturday night in my local town is nearer FKK than Oase.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2115106]I think the concept of FKK is pretty much dead at Oase. Jeez, I've seen women wearing less clothing in mosques...[/QUOTE]Then they take 5 mins to take it off in the room and need another 5 minutes to get their things. Also they short their 30 mins sessions to 25 already. So that comes to €50 for 15 mins of action. Well worth! LOL!
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2115106]I think the concept of FKK is pretty much dead at Oase. Jeez, I've seen women wearing less clothing in mosques...[/QUOTE]I was there on Tuesday and for me no change most of the day shift girls were nude and they also improve the lighting in the bar area so only positive things.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2115106]I think the concept of FKK is pretty much dead at Oase. Jeez, I've seen women wearing less clothing in mosques...[/QUOTE]I was chitchatting with this Asian guy about it about 6 months ago, and I said that we should perhaps ask the management if not the girls could start wearing a bit less clothes. A girl there overheard me saying it and she came over to the table where we were sitting by the jaccuzzi and said to us 'if you want to ask the manager anything, you should stop coming here with your fifties'. LOL! Suffice to say, both me and the guy I was talking to added her to our no go list. Perhaps if these girls improve their service, we might want to extend. I had never gone with her, but my reputation superseeds me I guess.
Or Oase should be upfront about it and increase the 50 e to 60 or even 70 e. And then we can see where that leads. 60 is fine with me, but what I hate is if the girl meets you at the locker, and suddenly she asks for 100 instead of 50. And you know you only spent 27 min in the room. Then the girl starts complaining that we were taking a swing at the dance floor before I said yes to the room, and that that was included. Gave her 5 extra as a small tip. She handed it straight back to me again while looking mad. I took it and thanked her, wondering if the 5 e she gave me would define me as a gigolo needing to register come 2018.
The level some of these Oase girls have attained at the scam ladder is silly as hell. I wonder what they are thinking? Its not all of them, but a good 30% at least have absolutely no idea what willingness to pay is, and their own value considering the market. I understand it is tough competition for them and the market is limited, but it feels like the Oase girls are trying hard to alienate themselves from the people giving them their income.
The new notion that 'prices start at 50' just doesn't work. It feels wrong. The girls are unable to project it properly if they themselves feel like they should have more, and it falls flat as all they do about it is just having a colder first impression on the customers.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2115401]I was chitchatting with this Asian guy about it about 6 months ago, and I said that we should perhaps ask the management if not the girls could start wearing a bit less clothes. A girl there overheard me saying it and she came over to the table where we were sitting by the jaccuzzi and said to us 'if you want to ask the manager anything, you should stop coming here with your fifties'. LOL! Suffice to say, both me and the guy I was talking to added her to our no go list. Perhaps if these girls improve their service, we might want to extend. I had never gone with her, but my reputation superseeds me I guess.
Or Oase should be upfront about it and increase the 50 e to 60 or even 70 e. And then we can see where that leads. 60 is fine with me, but what I hate is if the girl meets you at the locker, and suddenly she asks for 100 instead of 50. And you know you only spent 27 min in the room. Then the girl starts complaining that we were taking a swing at the dance floor before I said yes to the room, and that that was included. Gave her 5 extra as a small tip. She handed it straight back to me again while looking mad. I took it and thanked her, wondering if the 5 e she gave me would define me as a gigolo needing to register come 2018.
The level some of these Oase girls have attained at the scam ladder is silly as hell. I wonder what they are thinking? Its not all of them, but a good 30% at least have absolutely no idea what willingness to pay is, and their own value considering the market. I understand it is tough competition for them and the market is limited, but it feels like the Oase girls are trying hard to alienate themselves from the people giving them their income.
The new notion that 'prices start at 50' just doesn't work. It feels wrong. The girls are unable to project it properly if they themselves feel like they should have more, and it falls flat as all they do about it is just having a colder first impression on the customers.[/QUOTE]Sorry but you a senior monger and what you are reporting is not true, never but really never that happen to me even I was there last week it is 50 euros for 30 minutes and 100 for 1 hour, I think that in many clubs I am welcome just because I respect the girls I am always getting great service, In the last weeks I tried a new club of course for my first visit I need to seduce the girls to respect them but after several visits I am getting the best service there with sweet and sexy girls and I am very surprised how the girls globally behave compare to the other big clubs. The FKK is not dead and we are far from it.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2115106]I think the concept of FKK is pretty much dead at Oase. Jeez, I've seen women wearing less clothing in mosques...[/QUOTE]On the other hand: Visiting on a Thursday is not that different from any other day anymore. Some girls naked, some girls fully "dressed", some girls inbetween.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2115106]I think the concept of FKK is pretty much dead at Oase. Jeez, I've seen women wearing less clothing in mosques...[/QUOTE]Boycott the girls wearing clothes and go for the girls full nude.
I sometimes tell them girl she has too much clothes on so it is not so interesting for me.
I'm any case, the girl will shed what clothes she has pretty quick in the room.
Yes. There is a number of girls wearing boob tube tops with their tits pushed out and small underpants in the FKK. I wonder also that this is not FKK and it is not dessoustag.
I much prefer naked girls.
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Pistons. Agree. However an increase to 60 will I suspect make no difference. They are after bigger money. The 60 rate at Artemis does not seem to relate to better service, and the 40 rate at red carpet clubs seems to relate to higher service.
Bitumen. Correct. I have never been with a clothed girl in FKK
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2115568]Pistons. Agree. However an increase to 60 will I suspect make no difference. They are after bigger money. The 60 rate at Artemis does not seem to relate to better service, and the 40 rate at red carpet clubs seems to relate to higher service.
Bitumen. Correct. I have never been with a clothed girl in FKK[/QUOTE]You should recently, I went with one and for me she is the most beautiful girl I never was with, blond, 170 high, see to the boobs all natural white skin, not skinny, no smoking, no tattoo, after that I don t care about sex, on top of that she is very tight. She is just to shy to be fully naked. Sorry but I will not communicate the name of the club, keep it for me several months.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2115401]And then we can see where that leads. 60 is fine with me, but what I hate is if the girl meets you at the locker, and suddenly she asks for 100 instead of 50. And you know you only spent 27 min in the room. Then the girl starts complaining that we were taking a swing at the dance floor before I said yes to the room, and that that was included. Gave her 5 extra as a small tip. She handed it straight back to me again while looking mad. I took it and thanked her, wondering if the 5 e she gave me would define me as a gigolo needing to register come 2018.
The level some of these Oase girls have attained at the scam ladder is silly as hell. I wonder what they are thinking? Its not all of them, but a good 30% at least have absolutely no idea what willingness to pay is, and their own value considering the market. I understand it is tough competition for them and the market is limited, but it feels like the Oase girls are trying hard to alienate themselves from the people giving them their income.
The new notion that 'prices start at 50' just doesn't work. It feels wrong. The girls are unable to project it properly if they themselves feel like they should have more, and it falls flat as all they do about it is just having a colder first impression on the customers.[/QUOTE]Sounds about right about Oase girls.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2115568]Pistons. Agree. However an increase to 60 will I suspect make no difference. They are after bigger money. The 60 rate at Artemis does not seem to relate to better service, and the 40 rate at red carpet clubs seems to relate to higher service.
Bitumen. Correct. I have never been with a clothed girl in FKK[/QUOTE]I don't know. A 20% increase is something. But then again, the total sum of money spent at FKK's in Europe is probably a pot of gold that will remain unchanged weather or not it is 50 or 60. If it gets too high and above peoples willingness to pay, the total pot of gold all the girls (and entry fees) have to share will fall. So it is hard to say where the equilibrium is. But I know Wellcum with their 70 e per 30 min was a level above most you see in Germany. But then again gt Vienna with 60 e per 30 min was horrible. And worse than the worst German club in upselling. I don't know if it is because of the high living costs in Vienna, or if the line is between 60 and 70 e, and how much club management has to say, but I do think there is a link between the low operating costs at Acapulco and the high operating costs at Dolce Vita. And if the operating costs (entry for the girls) is high, they upsell more. While at Aca the girls are more satisfied with less money. One ex Dolce Vita girl at Acapulco says she prefers Acapulco. Her economy is simply better there.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2115401]Or Oase should be upfront about it and increase the 50 e to 60 or even 70 e.[/QUOTE]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2116192]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.[/QUOTE]Legally it is a complicate subject, knowing that the girls are not employed by the clubs, they are free to establish their own prices even more true with the new law.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2116192]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.[/QUOTE]It's really amazing that prices stayed so low for so long. Inflation affects everyone!
But I think pretty soon mongers will start getting burned via Brexit.
The expected influx of bankers is already making real estate agents rich, and they're just a step above tutes. (bad joke, sorry, but you know what I mean.).
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116221]It's really amazing that prices stayed so low for so long. Inflation affects everyone!
But I think pretty soon mongers will start getting burned via Brexit.
The expected influx of bankers is already making real estate agents rich, and they're just a step above tutes. (bad joke, sorry, but you know what I mean.).[/QUOTE]Very small impact, they are more going to escorts and there are 400000 to 600000 prostitutes in Germany.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2115161]Saturday night in my local town is nearer FKK than Oase.[/QUOTE]I should relocate to where you live, Optimist!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2116192]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.[/QUOTE]Where these girls come from, 50 euro is a LOT of money. 50 or 75 makes no difference for them. They have no 30 minute euro value bar that will make them content. No matter what the half hour price, they greedy girls will ask for more and the less greedy girls will not.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2116192]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.[/QUOTE]The establishment can forward the rules set by the girls. This is just a formality.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116221]It's really amazing that prices stayed so low for so long. Inflation affects everyone!
But I think pretty soon mongers will start getting burned via Brexit.
The expected influx of bankers is already making real estate agents rich, and they're just a step above tutes. (bad joke, sorry, but you know what I mean.).[/QUOTE]Maybe. Maybe the added customers will make the girls happy with just more sessions also instead of hiking the prices too much. 100 e for 30 min would completely kill off everyone on this forum, all the french and all the dutch from going all the way to Hessen though. But 60-65 e sure. If it also comes with more selection in the lineups it could be an ok deal for me actually.
Myself I think there is a gap to fill in the available buffer offered by the girls currently working in Hessen. And a few clubs have probably more room additional girls before prices spike. At least if normal market forces rule. And to some degree they do I guess.
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Some updates from the girls / club – there are not much business nowadays. I was told that the Christmas party was full of people but mostly drunk, LOL. The next day, the club was rather empty with more girls than guy. Some of the girls have already left for Holidays (Adele, Alina). Some are leaving in the next week (Anna, Antonia, Kati, Vicki).
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2116526]Some updates from the girls / club there are not much business nowadays. I was told that the Christmas party was full of people but mostly drunk, LOL. The next day, the club was rather empty with more girls than guy. Some of the girls have already left for Holidays (Adele, Alina). Some are leaving in the next week (Anna, Antonia, Kati, Vicki).[/QUOTE]Fully true December is never a good month for the girls in the clubs, the guys need to buy gifts for the family, around 15 of December to 10 of January I never visit any club, too poor LU for me mostly older woman the young need to go back to Roumania like Alina, Anna. I have nothing against the older woman but I feel immediately when a girl spent 10 years in the job from escort to apartment to Laufhaus and FKK, there is no more anything spontaneous coming from them.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2116358]Maybe. Maybe the added customers will make the girls happy with just more sessions also instead of hiking the prices too much. 100 e for 30 min would completely kill off everyone on this forum, all the french and all the dutch from going all the way to Hessen though. But 60-65 e sure. If it also comes with more selection in the lineups it could be an ok deal for me actually.
Myself I think there is a gap to fill in the available buffer offered by the girls currently working in Hessen. And a few clubs have probably more room additional girls before prices spike. At least if normal market forces rule. And to some degree they do I guess.[/QUOTE]This would be a really interesting business study. As we know, FKK is platform, bringing together buyers and sellers. Right now, it's assumed there's an equilibrium at 50 E. But what happens if a club raises session to price to 75 E? Would that bring more girls and then more mongers, creating a virtuous cycle? Or would it go the other way, higher session price leading to fewer mongers leading to fewer girls? Are girls and mongers more price-driven or quality-driven?
And then, of course, you'd have to factor in the girls who stay at a certain club because their friends are there. And you'd have to factor out the population that only comes to drink and doesn't session.
(Any FKK owners here reading this, I'm available to hire as a consultant.)
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Here is how a lack of price correction for inflation has impacted places like Oase. As 50 euro becomes less and less valuable the perceived income drops, and this kind of work becomes less desirable especially for women from robust economies. 50 euro may seem like a lot to Romanian women. But over the last decade or two fewer and fewer women from Poland or Russia or (especially) from Germany itself can be found working in FKKs.
So yes the price has stayed the same, but at the cost of chasing out women not from the poorest countries.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116577]This would be a really interesting business study. As we know, FKK is platform, bringing together buyers and sellers. Right now, it's assumed there's an equilibrium at 50 E. But what happens if a club raises session to price to 75 E? Would that bring more girls and then more mongers, creating a virtuous cycle? Or would it go the other way, higher session price leading to fewer mongers leading to fewer girls? Are girls and mongers more price-driven or quality-driven?
And then, of course, you'd have to factor in the girls who stay at a certain club because their friends are there. And you'd have to factor out the population that only comes to drink and doesn't session.
(Any FKK owners here reading this, I'm available to hire as a consultant.)[/QUOTE]Indeed, but there are many factors at play here, and its hard to avoid one spilling over while making such a study. Not to mention how it can take 2 or even 3 years before the market settles both with the new equilibrium of girls, and the customers. Both tourists and locals and ex pats.
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And those 2-3 years could be very detrimental to the club. Not to mention the problem of holding onto the girls during this time. I would guess it would be impossible for a club with local competition to pull that off going from 50 to 75.50% price hike is just too much. But from 50 to 60, maybe.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2116358]Maybe. Maybe the added customers will make the girls happy with just more sessions also instead of hiking the prices too much. 100 e for 30 min would completely kill off everyone on this forum, all the french and all the dutch from going all the way to Hessen though. But 60-65 e sure. If it also comes with more selection in the lineups it could be an ok deal for me actually.
Myself I think there is a gap to fill in the available buffer offered by the girls currently working in Hessen. And a few clubs have probably more room additional girls before prices spike. At least if normal market forces rule. And to some degree they do I guess.[/QUOTE]OK, suppose 60 eu 30 min. My concern is, how does it impact the 1 HR room? You see, due to some difficulty finishing in 30 min I end up in many 1 HR rooms. And girls are happy with me. Sorry, but I don't like your idea, it sure will harm my mongering experience.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116577]But what happens if a club raises session to price to 75 E? Would that bring more girls and then more mongers, creating a virtuous cycle? Or would it go the other way, higher session price leading to fewer mongers leading to fewer girls? Are girls and mongers more price-driven or quality-driven?
[/QUOTE]I would guess price-driven. According to some people, the quality has dropped. The variety has most certainly dropped. But I don't think the aggregate number of customers has not decreased. They've just scattered, because there are so many clubs now. Tourists are still flying in.
Per 2013 article, Germany has an estimated 400,000 prostitutes. There are an estimated 1 million people who pay for sex each day. So the market is way bigger than FKKs. And the FKKs must remain price-competitive with the other alternative options.
[URL]http://business.time.com/2013/06/18/germany-has-become-the-cut-rate-prostitution-capital-of-the-world/[/URL]
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Inflation in Germany has stayed quite low for the past 15 years, but 50 e back then is about 62 e today. But it is not completely bleak either as the euro has gained strength compared to the Romanian currency by about 10% the last 9 years also. This year the Romanian currency has weakened more compared to the euro than the German inflation. But it is not all to fair to use that as a comparison. It can be used related to recruiting Romanian girls, but it doesn't work regarding those who has already been here. And then the Romanian economy has probably had a higher inflation than the German too. So a price hike would be in place. It is just that competition McA mentions. If it was just 3-4 FKK's it would be simple for them to agree on something. But these top FKK's seems to sometimes have 30-40% tourists. At least in Hessen, and then you suddenly compete with other cities in Germany and Europe too. Locals would quickly move to the other options. However the rld has increased in price for the past 5 years, so a small increase is probably in place for FKKs also. It just have to be a light one. And not 50 to 100.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2116608]I would guess price-driven. According to some people, the quality has dropped. The variety has most certainly dropped. But I don't think the aggregate number of customers has not decreased. They've just scattered, because there are so many clubs now. Tourists are still flying in. [/QUOTE]Right. Globalization has affected WGs in Europe as much as the steelworker in Toledo. (Better for one, worse for the other.) A Romanian FKK girl at 50 E is still higher "quality" than what many tourists can get at home, so the customers flying in are still seeing value in the current model. That's what makes this knot so hard to unravel.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2116608]I would guess price-driven. According to some people, the quality has dropped. The variety has most certainly dropped. But I don't think the aggregate number of customers has not decreased. They've just scattered, because there are so many clubs now. Tourists are still flying in.
Per 2013 article, Germany has an estimated 400,000 prostitutes. There are an estimated 1 million people who pay for sex each day. So the market is way bigger than FKKs. And the FKKs must remain price-competitive with the other alternative options.
[URL]http://business.time.com/2013/06/18/germany-has-become-the-cut-rate-prostitution-capital-of-the-world/[/URL][/QUOTE]True what you are saying, FKK clubs especially the five stars like Shark, Oase, GT, Artemis are a part of the business, you have many girls working in apartments, in laufhaus, on internet with kaufmich etc. But globally the prices have dropped, in the big clubs more and more 50 euros sessions due to the fact the senior monger from US, Canada,. Are less numerous and are replaced by guys from other countries with lower financial capacities.
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I take part of that back actually.
[URL]https://tradingeconomics.com/romania/inflation-cpi[/URL]
They even had deflation recently. And even lower averages than Germany the past 10 years as a whole. So I guess that's why they are still coming to work in Germany. But as a metric it is not fair to use it against them now that they are already in Germany, since they live in Germany and use most of their income there.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116577]This would be a really interesting business study. As we know, FKK is platform, bringing together buyers and sellers. Right now, it's assumed there's an equilibrium at 50 E. But what happens if a club raises session to price to 75 E? Would that bring more girls and then more mongers, creating a virtuous cycle? Or would it go the other way, higher session price leading to fewer mongers leading to fewer girls? Are girls and mongers more price-driven or quality-driven?
And then, of course, you'd have to factor in the girls who stay at a certain club because their friends are there. And you'd have to factor out the population that only comes to drink and doesn't session.
(Any FKK owners here reading this, I'm available to hire as a consultant.)[/QUOTE]The solution is quite simple. Have some girls charge 50 and others charge 75. The ones that deserve it will be paid higher. Additional tiers would just require too much negotiation. You might even have a girl wear a mark to indicate their prices. That already happens but making it transparent simplifies things.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2116599]But from 50 to 60, maybe.[/QUOTE]Go to Artemis and you will see the huge effect a 60 EUR /30 min tariff has. Zero.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2116721]Go to Artemis and you will see the huge effect a 60 EUR /30 min tariff has. Zero.[/QUOTE]Higher cost of living in Berlin no?
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2116664]The solution is quite simple. Have some girls charge 50 and others charge 75. The ones that deserve it will be paid higher. Additional tiers would just require too much negotiation. You might even have a girl wear a mark to indicate their prices. That already happens but making it transparent simplifies things.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. I've seen some sexual services work that way, with VIPs and stars charging a higher rate. I think given the choice, most women would opt to be a 75 er, so how do you separate the two? And I'm sure a lot of the 50 ers might lie in the room. And adding so much complexity into the model. Right now, it's pretty much as simple as can be, 50 E for all.
You see the trouble that follows when there's a surcharge on kissing, anal, COF, etc.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2116721]Go to Artemis and you will see the huge effect a 60 EUR /30 min tariff has. Zero.[/QUOTE]One could argue that Berlin's a more expensive market with fewer alternatives. I know of WGs who have headed there for higher rates, especially since many of them are from outside the Frankfurt area -- what's 4 hours in another direction? There have others who similarly have gone to Austria.
To your point though, when I think about it, most WGs I know well are dedicated to one club, because that's where they're comfortable. They only start to move when their earnings start to wane.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2116721]Go to Artemis and you will see the huge effect a 60 EUR /30 min tariff has. Zero.[/QUOTE]When was 50 euros the price for 30 minutes in artemis?
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2116969]When was 50 euros the price for 30 minutes in artemis?[/QUOTE]Never. But do you get better service there compared to Sharks, LivingRoom, Babylon or World because the price is higher? Is service better at Andiamo or other Austrian clubs charging 60 or 70 EUR? Don't think so.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2116904]Higher cost of living in Berlin no?[/QUOTE]I don t believe, Berlin is not a very expensive city compare to Munich or Stuttgart or Frankfurt, Hamburg.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2116974]Never. But do you get better service there compared to Sharks, LivingRoom, Babylon or World because the price is higher? Is service better at Andiamo or other Austrian clubs charging 60 or 70 EUR? Don't think so.[/QUOTE]Or is service at Acapulco worse because it is only 40 Euro /30 minutes? I don't think so.
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Comparing prices across clubs in various cities doesn't yield much insight. There is a natural cost of living difference between cities which might explain prices to some extent but only partially so (like the Big Mac index). If a worker in London is getting paid twice as much as in Little Rock, AK it doesn't mean he will be happy when his boss gives him no raise for ten years and then says "look, you are still x percent higher than the guy in Little Rock". If we are going to make these comparisons, at least make them within the same region — did wages go up in Frankfurt over time, and did they go up more than the price levels in Sharks or Oase?
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2117065]Comparing prices across clubs in various cities doesn't yield much insight. There is a natural cost of living difference between cities which might explain prices to some extent but only partially so (like the Big Mac index). If a worker in London is getting paid twice as much as in Little Rock, AK it doesn't mean he will be happy when his boss gives him no raise for ten years and then says "look, you are still x percent higher than the guy in Little Rock". If we are going to make these comparisons, at least make them within the same region did wages go up in Frankfurt over time, and did they go up more than the price levels in Sharks or Oase?[/QUOTE]10 E is not much of a difference. To get a meaningful difference, you have to spend 50-100% more. 200-300 E per hours gets you Switzerland or higher end escorts which are incomparable to the FKK scene--both in looks and service.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116960]That's interesting. I've seen some sexual services work that way, with VIPs and stars charging a higher rate. I think given the choice, most women would opt to be a 75 er, so how do you separate the two? And I'm sure a lot of the 50 ers might lie in the room. And adding so much complexity into the model. Right now, it's pretty much as simple as can be, 50 E for all.
You see the trouble that follows when there's a surcharge on kissing, anal, COF, etc.[/QUOTE]Like in 18 sauna in Macau they rate girls based on height (all above 165 cm I think which was LOL to me since I prefer them below) is added cost. Then they go on nationality. Some nationalities are more expensive (very racist and not the way to go). Then the last one is certain s&m routines (such as nuru gel, dripping wax, latex lingerie and hot / cold BJ at 18 sauna and maybe emperor) or dress codes (flight attendant, school uniform or nurse at east spa and east castle spa) you can fuck them in.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2116974]Never. But do you get better service there compared to Sharks, LivingRoom, Babylon or World because the price is higher? Is service better at Andiamo or other Austrian clubs charging 60 or 70 EUR? Don't think so.[/QUOTE]Shit service in GT Vienna with horrible upselling, but pretty good service in Wellcum and Marina, slo. No city in Germany or Aut is more expensive than Vienna though. And villash / nuevo goricia are cheap places, so the girls there are extremely relaxed even if they only catch 2 rooms a day. They do get 70 e a session tho. But it can be slow sometimes I guess, so if a NRW club or Oase or sharks had gone up to 60, they could compete better for girls against these clubs. I met a marketing guy when I was at Wellcum who said they were working on marketing the club better outside Italy as it had a lot more to go on. Many factors though as the location blows for logistics compared to NRW / Hessen who has potential for volume but also alot of competition.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2117065]Comparing prices across clubs in various cities doesn't yield much insight. There is a natural cost of living difference between cities which might explain prices to some extent but only partially so (like the Big Mac index). If a worker in London is getting paid twice as much as in Little Rock, AK it doesn't mean he will be happy when his boss gives him no raise for ten years and then says "look, you are still x percent higher than the guy in Little Rock". If we are going to make these comparisons, at least make them within the same region did wages go up in Frankfurt over time, and did they go up more than the price levels in Sharks or Oase?[/QUOTE]We all know that in the P6 market in Europe there is a big oversupply since several years driving down the prices, so many girls from Roumania are joining the market but also from Spain, etc. Just have a look on the prices for escort in the big cities in Europe compare to five year back, okay they say they are escorts but in fact they are basic prostitutes working in apartment.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2117065]Comparing prices across clubs in various cities doesn't yield much insight. There is a natural cost of living difference between cities which might explain prices to some extent but only partially so (like the Big Mac index). [/QUOTE]Cost of living in Rhein Main is more or less the same in Frankfurt and around Frankfurt. Wouldn't justify a difference in pricing. Cost of living in Berlin is lower than in Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Cologne, Hamburg. Still Artemis' half hour is priced higher. Same for Andiamo in Villach.
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Service in the clubs close to the Italian border is adapted to the Italian clientele. I have heard experienced Italian mongers who live an hour drive from there and still fly to Germany because the service sucks.
If you are willing to spend the same money you do in Switzerland (about 200 to 400 EUR per hour without anal of CIM) you will get the same good service in every club in Germany.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2117127]Shit service in GT Vienna with horrible upselling, but pretty good service in Wellcum and Marina, slo. No city in Germany or Aut is more expensive than Vienna though. And villash / nuevo goricia are cheap places, so the girls there are extremely relaxed even if they only catch 2 rooms a day. They do get 70 e a session tho. But it can be slow sometimes I guess, so if a NRW club or Oase or sharks had gone up to 60, they could compete better for girls against these clubs. I met a marketing guy when I was at Wellcum who said they were working on marketing the club better outside Italy as it had a lot more to go on. Many factors though as the location blows for logistics compared to NRW / Hessen who has potential for volume but also alot of competition.[/QUOTE]I doubt that Wellcum or Andiamo can compete in terms clients due to location. There's factors of amount of clients comes into play, not only pricing. In Germany there are too many options and pricing. Outside De, most extreme example of pricing is Switzerland, but even with the pricing, the number of clients may not support enough. Girls can price higher with escorting as well, but meeting clients is much easier in clubs. Where do you think most outsiders will consider in terms of club options in the vacinity, location, and pricing? Volume is just as important.
The standard pricing in clubs isn't like wages of occupation based on location, it's mainly club based. If the region has many options, they need to stay competitive. Artemis doesn't have competition (or much) in terms of FKK. Location and exclusivity brings clients in.
Number of clubs with big LUs in regions reflect in some ways in the way clients can support those clubs for those regions.
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Hello.
Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon. Plan on visiting Oase. First timer. Any advice. I'd like to stay one or two nights there. Recommendations on hotel or Oase prices for staying the night. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport there? I also speak fluent German so that should help me out a bit. Spend 2 days there then head to different part of Germany to visit family. Thanks for any help.
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Oase first timer.
Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon and I plan on staying at hotel for 2 days or Oase if they allow overnight stays. Depending on price also. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport to Oase? First time going could use some help or advice what to do. Viagra needed or anything like that. Any recommendations?
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2117311]I doubt that Wellcum or Andiamo can compete in terms clients due to location. There's factors of amount of clients comes into play, not only pricing. In Germany there are too many options and pricing. Outside De, most extreme example of pricing is Switzerland, but even with the pricing, the number of clients may not support enough. Girls can price higher with escorting as well, but meeting clients is much easier in clubs. Where do you think most outsiders will consider in terms of club options in the vacinity, location, and pricing? Volume is just as important.
The standard pricing in clubs isn't like wages of occupation based on location, it's mainly club based. If the region has many options, they need to stay competitive. Artemis doesn't have competition (or much) in terms of FKK. Location and exclusivity brings clients in.
Number of clubs with big LUs in regions reflect in some ways in the way clients can support those clubs for those regions.[/QUOTE]Artemis is the only FKK club in Berlin the capital of Germany, and I am not sure at all the the business is better now that 5 years back, it is at least not my feeling when I see the poor LU and the overall low maintenance of the club. In Leipzig there is also only 1 big FKK and the business looks terrible. The mongers are really moving from one place to another and never afraid to drive 300 kilometers, the entry price, the session price and the ratio price to what you get for are the key of the success and 70 euros entry is too high for.
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PL: that's exactly what I'm saying too. And said before.
But maybe there is another factor here too: the bigger the city, and the more centrally located the club is, the more hectic the lifestyle, the more stressed the girls become. And so they upsell more.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2117341]Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon. Plan on visiting Oase. First timer. Any advice. I'd like to stay one or two nights there. Recommendations on hotel or Oase prices for staying the night. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport there? I also speak fluent German so that should help me out a bit. Spend 2 days there then head to different part of Germany to visit family. Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]Since you speak fluent German you will be perfectly fine. You can past for a local.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2117366]Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon and I plan on staying at hotel for 2 days or Oase if they allow overnight stays. Depending on price also. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport to Oase? First time going could use some help or advice what to do. Viagra needed or anything like that. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Oase is pretty far from the airport though and is in the middle of nowhere. If this is your first FKK experience, then I would recommend that you head to Sharks at Darmstadt instead. There are one or two hotels in the vicinity that are within walking distance. You can even get there from the airport by train (just google it and there is even a youtube video on how to get there). In any case, Germany is very safe. Have fun!
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2117366]Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon and I plan on staying at hotel for 2 days or Oase if they allow overnight stays. Depending on price also. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport to Oase? First time going could use some help or advice what to do. Viagra needed or anything like that. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Many reports about how to travel to it, if you are bit healthy and in good shape you don't need any pills, if you need it, that means you have no sexual attirance for the girl choose another one or don t session. Never forget that you have no stress with a prostitute except your cash she is expecting nothing from you, if you can t she will be very happy to preserve her pussy for another guy.
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Sunday 17 December.
Had still 1 free entry ticket and decided to give a new try to Oase on a Sunday, what a mistake from my side, was there at opening hour hoping to session fresh girls, but unfortunately 0 girls up to 11, spoke with some other German guys there were also very disappointed. Hour after hour some girls but also a lot of guys at the end when I left at 7 PM, ratio man to woman 5. For me 0 session today, due to very poor LU most of my favorites already left for holidays was expecting to discover new talents. This was my last FKK visit up to mid of January no need to spend, money, energy for so poor LU, it was a little bit the same yesterday at Shark. Time is coming to recharge the batteries like every year and to enjoy Christmas with my family and also to go skying.
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Option
Option is to find a hotel in the Bahnhofsviertel area near the main train station (Frankfurt HBF) where there are numerous options. Easy access to and from the airport by S8, S9 trains (and others). Buy a day pass (about 8 Euro), to reach Oase and this comes in handy to get around Frankfurt later, take the S5 train to Friedrichsdorf, train runs every half hour both ways and it is a short ten euro taxi to Oase and back to the station. I would rate Oase over the other clubs in the area, just a nicer facility. If you arrive before 4 pm the entrance is only 50 Euro and you have almost covered your cab rides and train fare. There are a few nice girls there early but about 3:30 the late shift girls begin to show up. Always a nice selection, mostly Romanians but more variety my last visit in November. Like all of these clubs things get rather wild in the evenings as the crowds flood in. I like my girls fresh for the day, best to start early. If you want to stay "strong" as the Romanian girls call it Viagra helps. I take the new generic which is only 20 MG. Just an enhancement.
I travel sometimes from the States solely to visit this place for a week. Never left disappointed. Make no promises and always beware of "sharks" (girls who upsell in rooms), of course these are standard rules at all such clubs.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2115401]I was chitchatting with this Asian guy about it about 6 months ago, and I said that we should perhaps ask the management if not the girls could start wearing a bit less clothes. A girl there overheard me saying it and she came over to the table where we were sitting by the jaccuzzi and said to us 'if you want to ask the manager anything, you should stop coming here with your fifties'. LOL! Suffice to say, both me and the guy I was talking to added her to our no go list. Perhaps if these girls improve their service, we might want to extend. I had never gone with her, but my reputation superseeds me I guess[/QUOTE]I remember that. You were chatting with my buddy and I. We were also reflecting on a cute young spinner Estefania who we both saw by the lockers at Sharks the day before.
This trip only made it to Oase once. Had a slim brunette who walked around with a striped Hillfiger bra top. Amanda who is 19 and claimed to be from Moldova It was a Friday so not sure if that was des sous day. Even though I went for the 50 euro program of only suck and fuck, she did relent and do BBBJ but would keep spitting into the towel every few sucks. She was very adorable though the way she smiled and flicked her tongue back and forth.
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Thanks.
[QUOTE=UppstateMann;2118116]Option is to find a hotel in the Bahnhofsviertel area near the main train station (Frankfurt HBF) where there are numerous options. Easy access to and from the airport by S8, S9 trains (and others). Buy a day pass (about 8 Euro), to reach Oase and this comes in handy to get around Frankfurt later, take the S5 train to Friedrichsdorf, train runs every half hour both ways and it is a short ten euro taxi to Oase and back to the station. I would rate Oase over the other clubs in the area, just a nicer facility. If you arrive before 4 pm the entrance is only 50 Euro and you have almost covered your cab rides and train fare. There are a few nice girls there early but about 3:30 the late shift girls begin to show up. Always a nice selection, mostly Romanians but more variety my last visit in November. Like all of these clubs things get rather wild in the evenings as the crowds flood in. I like my girls fresh for the day, best to start early. If you want to stay "strong" as the Romanian girls call it Viagra helps. I take the new generic which is only 20 MG. Just an enhancement.
I travel sometimes from the States solely to visit this place for a week. Never left disappointed. Make no promises and always beware of "sharks" (girls who upsell in rooms), of course these are standard rules at all such clubs.[/QUOTE]Where can I find some those pills while over there? As I won't be traveling with any. Are any of the hotels near Oase worth staying in? Or better to travel back and forth to Frankfurt. As after 2 days there I plan to travel near Nuremberg to visit family.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2118464]Where can I find some those pills while over there? As I won't be traveling with any. Are any of the hotels near Oase worth staying in? Or better to travel back and forth to Frankfurt. As after 2 days there I plan to travel near Nuremberg to visit family.[/QUOTE]If you are thinking about the blue one, very difficult in Germany to find without prescription, don t hesitate to contact Indian guys in the clubs usually they have generic and due to their unhealthy life they need to take some. There is a B and B and Mercure near Oase but it is better to stay in Bahnhof Viertel F, easier to commute to other clubs.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2118464]Where can I find some those pills while over there? As I won't be traveling with any. Are any of the hotels near Oase worth staying in? Or better to travel back and forth to Frankfurt. As after 2 days there I plan to travel near Nuremberg to visit family.[/QUOTE]There are some hotels in Friedrichsdolf where you can stay. I stayed at Mercure and Akadia before. Both are OK hotel. Mecure is like four point for SPG while Akadia is kind of like service apartment. You can book both of them from [URL]booking.com[/URL].
Hap fun!
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One Night Frankfurt Layover and First Trip Since "The Law," Friday at Oase
As mongers we can be such a pessimistic breed. (Though sometimes with good reason). But on this, my first trip to Germany since the passage of "the law," I went in with some hope, given reports on conditions on the ground. With only a day and a morning available on this transit trip a couple of weeks ago, I decided on Oase for my big FKK day. That got off to a pretty late start as I had been under the weather after my flight, so I only got to Oase this Friday at 6. After navigating the unfriendly desk staff, a quick look around made me pleased with the quality of the lineup, and that what I had read about there being too much dessous was not the case.
Soon after my arrival I had dinner, but really began to feel the effects of jet lag and a lingering stomach ailment. So I headed to the resting room for a nap, and after that to the sauna to further recuperate. This brought me into play only after 9 PM, and my first half hour on the hunt was spent trying to politely fend off unwanted girls on the prowl, emboldened by the low-ish guest turnout on this cold night.
I eventually saw one of my targets free, one of several black girls there that night (including at least one I had encountered at Babylon. A pushy girl in cornrows). But the one I was after was tall and slender with a thick head of curly hair, and wearing a corset (beautiful breasts on display) around her midriff. She was just gorgeous. I approached her and Naomi and I sat for a little bit, chatting about my travel to her homeland of Ghana, and me making explicit what I needed out of the session kissing and especially pussy licking and her oral service to the old standard at no extra price. She was fine with it and we went to a room.
We spent the next three hours there, each with kissing (her soft lips very alluring), and deep licking of her pussy that transitioned to a 69 where her mouth pleasured my cock so well. She appreciated my slow thrusting deeply in missionary, embracing tightly cheek to cheek while she softly moaned. Looking up at Naomi's gorgeous face and taking her nipples between my lips kept me enthralled as she rode me, first with slow sensual grinding against her pussy lips before penetration, then my hands bouncing her ass cheeks up and down rapidly, eliciting a powerful blast of cum.
Throughout the session the mirrors surrounding us on three sides made it a visual treat to see her above me, Naomi's fantastic face and sexy frame reflected into infinity. Things became more tightly focused as I lay on top of her and wrapped my arms around her, pumping deep to produce pleasure for both of us, and ultimately another load from me. Relaxing after orgasm held each other closely and dozed, awakening with caresses; it was as much a pleasure to stroke Naomi's long, lithe body as much a pleasure to touch as it was to feel her hands on me. I knew from the start that my night at Oase was not going to be a prolific one, so having such a substantial block of pleasure with a beautiful, engaging woman certified the visit as a success.
Now at 1 AM, I had ideas of taking a taxi back to Frankfurt but decided to stay to closing. I had seen a brunette teenie with large tits, and had been approached by a curvy brunette with a nice smile and manner named Jenny (from Bulgaria) who I had ideas about going with later. But rather than getting active, my jet lag led me to nap for a while. Worse, a late night snack of bratwurst ended up being a disaster, with the noxious sausage giving me stomach trouble, and I took more time in the wellness area to deal with that.
This included some time in the steam room, about an hour before closing, setting up one of the more porn-like experiences of my life. As I was laying down in the steam room, three girls entered, towels wrapped on their heads and barely on their bodies, followed by two beefy Mediterranean guys (making it pretty tight in the room). Two of the girls asked the guys to give them massages, and while one complied with a shoulder rub the other inexplicably left. .
So the girl turned to me and made her request. I began to give a well-received shoulder rub, with the girl increasingly leaning back into me, and ultimately turning around for me to massage her breasts as much as a reward to me as therapy for her. Thinking on my feet, I proposed a session to Mia, and while she balked at starting action in the steam room she agreed and we showered off. Her friend Daniella was standing nearby, and I suggested we add her too for a threesome, and we were soon off to a room near the whirlpool.
Mia and Daniella were two young Romanian blondes, Mia short but busty with a round ass, and Daniella a lithe little thing with a curly head of platinum Marilyn Monroe locks. A real pair of cuties. Kneeling on the bed, I kissed the girls while running my hands over their tits, asses, and pussies. Daniella getting down on all fours to suck my dick. I lay down and had Mia sit on my face to feat on her pussy while I reached up to squeeze her full tits. Condom on, Daniella sat on my cock and bucked wildly, releasing any pent up tension from the night. We switched position for me to pound Mia in missionary while Daniela fingered herself and leaned over to kiss Mia. Mia flipped over for me to do her doggy, facing into a mirror, so I could see her face gasping for more. The sight-lines in this room were amazing, giving me a view from wherever I looked at a nice piece of teenie ass.
I knew that to cum I would need a spinner on my cock so I called for a change. Mia had said that the girls had only been working in this business in Germany for two months, which I could see by Daniella's awkward attempt to put on the condom, but not from Mia's deft, twist-wrapping technight which I had never seen before. With club closing time quickly approaching, Daniella mounted me and clutching her hips I bounced her up and down on my cock, her head flung back shaking her hair wildly, until I cam with one last burst for the night. It was an amazing and surprising finish to the visit to Oase, and a lesson to be optimistic: in the end, an FKK visit usually does turn out for the best.
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Adele.
Guys,
Does anyone know if Adele (Cameron Diaz) is working during the holidays? Also will the club be pretty empty or still worth visiting next week? Thanks in advance.
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Extras?
What are all the extras? Prices for them? And abbreviations I see everyone putting on here. I have no clue what they mean. Like CIM, BBBJ, and any other I may have missed.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2119649]What are all the extras? Prices for them? And abbreviations I see everyone putting on here. I have no clue what they mean. Like CIM, BBBJ, and any other I may have missed.[/QUOTE]There is a list of abbreviations on this forum:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations[/URL]
This web link is always up above on every page for your convenience.
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Friedrichsdorf.
[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2118464]Where can I find some those pills while over there? As I won't be traveling with any. Are any of the hotels near Oase worth staying in? Or better to travel back and forth to Frankfurt. As after 2 days there I plan to travel near Nuremberg to visit family.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Mercure before, it is fine. Nice grocery next door and I found some good food and drink in town. Friederichsdorf is just a small, quiet town. The train station is walking distance (maybe 1/2 mile?) . I always have brought my own meds. I would think such things as Viagra would still require a prescription in Germany.
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[QUOTE=UppstateMann;2120682]I have stayed at the Mercure before, it is fine. Nice grocery next door and I found some good food and drink in town. Friederichsdorf is just a small, quiet town. The train station is walking distance (maybe 1/2 mile?) . I always have brought my own meds. I would think such things as Viagra would still require a prescription in Germany.[/QUOTE]Agreed that erectile dysfunction drugs need a prescription in Germany before dispensing at a pharmacy.
Better to have some of your own brought with you.
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[QUOTE=FiletRare;2119411]Guys,
Does anyone know if Adele (Cameron Diaz) is working during the holidays? Also will the club be pretty empty or still worth visiting next week? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I am not sure she is working. She has been sending Christmas cheers earlier. I guess when you go you will find out.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2116579]Here is how a lack of price correction for inflation has impacted places like Oase. As 50 euro becomes less and less valuable the perceived income drops, and this kind of work becomes less desirable especially for women from robust economies. 50 euro may seem like a lot to Romanian women. But over the last decade or two fewer and fewer women from Poland or Russia or (especially) from Germany itself can be found working in FKKs.
So yes the price has stayed the same, but at the cost of chasing out women not from the poorest countries.[/QUOTE]Do any of you guys get the impression, like me, that many of the German WGs in Oase and other clubs are in it for the sex?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2120756]Do any of you guys get the impression, like me, that many of the German WGs in Oase and other clubs are in it for the sex?[/QUOTE]If sex = money, yes. Otherwise no.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2120756]Do any of you guys get the impression, like me, that many of the German WGs in Oase and other clubs are in it for the sex?[/QUOTE]Who are these German girls? I have never seen German girls in oase. Please let me know names and looks so I will keep a lookout next time. Have been wanting a German, polish, Russian and Ukrainian girl. Not the Romanians that say they came from those countries.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2120756]Do any of you guys get the impression, like me, that many of the German WGs in Oase and other clubs are in it for the sex?[/QUOTE]I don't believe many I met where delivering poor service just because usually they are not staying long in a club they move from escort to clubs etc. Like when the veteran Romanian girls are always changing they are not investing in the clients. I don't know why but December was full of Romanian girls who are more than 5 years prostitutes and moving from Spain, to Italy as escort to FKK Lancelot, to Paradise, most of them were offering poor service at least to me, I think there were trying to earn the last euros before the new law is taking full effect. Hoping that is not the signal that the young and fresh girls left the German P6 scene and were replaced by the veteran. Most of the girls who spent 5 years or even 10 years in this job are usually completely mentally destroyed and no more able to have any emotion, it is a pity but most of the times like that.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2120756]Do any of you guys get the impression, like me, that many of the German WGs in Oase and other clubs are in it for the sex?[/QUOTE]As someone here once said to me: You might really like ice cream. It might be something you have every evening. But if you had it for eight to ten hours a day, every day, I'd bet you'd get tired of it. Maybe not for a week, but probably after a month, and definitely after six months.
On top of it, say strawberry ice cream really does it for you. If every meal you had was ice cream, but strawberry came around only every so often, and most of the other time, it was ice cream, which is great, but it's not exactly your favorite kind, how would you feel about ice cream after a month?
That's not to say I haven't met WGs who won't enjoy the sex. They're seldom the regulars though. And they're definitely not doing it for free. I've run into the nympho types more as escorts, who can hang out their shingle when they feel the itch -- for sex or for money.
(But if you have specific girls in mind, please share, or PM me!)
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2120756]Do any of you guys get the impression, like me, that many of the German WGs in Oase and other clubs are in it for the sex?[/QUOTE]Over the phone, I asked your question a girl from LR who I know 2+ years, she is a 31 yr old Romanian, not German, which could pose a difference in our perspectives. Anyway, I asked her about sex / pleasure vs. Money balance from her point of view. The answers was:
She considers prostitution to be her conscious career choice and is generally satisfied with it. She can go for days and have 4 to 6 rooms per day and that's just work, not much pleasure. Then she can strike a couple of bad days with less than 4 rooms and become stressed, basically being afraid maybe her best years are over and it's time to worry about the future. She admits her service levels may drop a notch during those periods. And then there are good days with 7 or more rooms, sometimes up to 14 rooms per day. Lucky 7 is her critical point. Despite this being normally a late night gig, she gets horny and wants "good" sex, both oral and vaginal. Will have satisfying orgasm in DATY and vaginal orgasm with a customer who fucks her like "cheap trash", deep and heavy pounding with slaps on the buttocks.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2120932]As someone here once said to me: You might really like ice cream. It might be something you have every evening. But if you had it for eight to ten hours a day, every day, I'd bet you'd get tired of it. Maybe not for a week, but probably after a month, and definitely after six months.
On top of it, say strawberry ice cream really does it for you. If every meal you had was ice cream, but strawberry came around only every so often, and most of the other time, it was ice cream, which is great, but it's not exactly your favorite kind, how would you feel about ice cream after a month?
That's not to say I haven't met WGs who won't enjoy the sex. They're seldom the regulars though. And they're definitely not doing it for free. I've run into the nympho types more as escorts, who can hang out their shingle when they feel the itch -- for sex or for money.
(But if you have specific girls in mind, please share, or PM me!)[/QUOTE]Over the years I sessioned many Germans in Oase who appeared to me to be more concerned about the sex than the money but don't make the mistake to think that they would forego the money. In my summer trip this year I was only able to take one to the room and that was only on one occasion because she was totally booked on other days. Her name slips me now. This year I had many at Sharks who I am convinced visited to get their rocks off. Lia was definitely one of them. Totally unconcerned about time and various concerns that other girls have and fucked me like a GF who had not been banged in a long time. I would find it hard to believe that other punters have not encountered such providers, German or otherwise. Others I have had in Sharks this year that fit the bill are Jordan, Veronica and Eliza, inter alia, all from Germany. There have been many others over the years.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2121064]Over the years I sessioned many Germans in Oase who appeared to me to be more concerned about the sex than the money but don't make the mistake to think that they would forego the money. In my summer trip this year I was only able to take one to the room and that was only on one occasion because she was totally booked on other days. Her name slips me now. This year I had many at Sharks who I am convinced visited to get their rocks off. Lia was definitely one of them. Totally unconcerned about time and various concerns that other girls have and fucked me like a GF who had not been banged in a long time. I would find it hard to believe that other punters have not encountered such providers, German or otherwise. Others I have had in Sharks this year that fit the bill are Jordan, Veronica and Eliza, inter alia, all from Germany. There have been many others over the years.[/QUOTE]Ok, it's not like I don't believe you. I would say you're a lucky guy though! I have encountered such providers, but not often.
Are you the type they'd have sex with outside of an FKK? I'd like to think my encounters are because I'm not totally repulsive yet -- I'm still relatively young, in very good shape, and sufficiently endowed. (And no, it's not the girls telling me that! I've had enough admiring comments from weirdos in the gym.).
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2121064]Over the years I sessioned many Germans in Oase who appeared to me to be more concerned about the sex than the money[/QUOTE]So you found some pro girls. That's what WGs should be able to achieve: make you forget it's pay sex until you find yourself at the lockers, paying.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2121081]Ok, it's not like I don't believe you. I would say you're a lucky guy though! I have encountered such providers, but not often.
Are you the type they'd have sex with outside of an FKK? I'd like to think my encounters are because I'm not totally repulsive yet -- I'm still relatively young, in very good shape, and sufficiently endowed. (And no, it's not the girls telling me that! I've had enough admiring comments from weirdos in the gym.).[/QUOTE]Everything is a function of money. Tell her you stay only 30 minutes and you'll see what happens next (granted, the less attractive girls that work less may give you all for 50, but that's normal). When you go to a room where the girl knows that the minimum she will get is already high, of course she would keep shut and make you feel great. This is a money game, these girls want money and they sell their most prized possession for money. Don't be naive.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2121081]Ok, it's not like I don't believe you. I would say you're a lucky guy though! I have encountered such providers, but not often.
Are you the type they'd have sex with outside of an FKK? I'd like to think my encounters are because I'm not totally repulsive yet -- I'm still relatively young, in very good shape, and sufficiently endowed. (And no, it's not the girls telling me that! I've had enough admiring comments from weirdos in the gym.).[/QUOTE]Usually they're not hot enough for me to want to meet with them outside of the FKK.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2121158]So you found some pro girls. That's what WGs should be able to achieve: make you forget it's pay sex until you find yourself at the lockers, paying.[/QUOTE]I've had those too.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2121274]Everything is a function of money. Tell her you stay only 30 minutes and you'll see what happens next (granted, the less attractive girls that work less may give you all for 50, but that's normal). When you go to a room where the girl knows that the minimum she will get is already high, of course she would keep shut and make you feel great. This is a money game, these girls want money and they sell their most prized possession for money. Don't be naive.[/QUOTE]Second that!
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2121274]Everything is a function of money. Tell her you stay only 30 minutes and you'll see what happens next (granted, the less attractive girls that work less may give you all for 50, but that's normal). When you go to a room where the girl knows that the minimum she will get is already high, of course she would keep shut and make you feel great. This is a money game, these girls want money and they sell their most prized possession for money. Don't be naive.[/QUOTE]Ha ha, yes, I often need to remind myself not to be naive with these girls, fair enough. See my earlier post about ice cream.
But recently, I was with a WG who, even when I finished, demanded that I stay and finish her off. It wasn't for extra time, and she was pretty straightforward with her instructions, and there was no grand performance when she came. It was like I reset her shoulder. "Ok, thanks." We got along well though, but even then I think I was more into her than she into me.
When I was first starting in this hobby, I asked a girl I liked for a duo, and she brought her friend that I wasn't so into. I was a bit of a pushover, so I said ok. Her friend liked me though, and asked her friend to let me fuck her when I could have spent all that time fucking her friend and she could have gotten away with doing absolutely nothing.
Another time, I was going through an overly cautious phase, wouldn't kiss the girl, and she grabbed my head and forced her tongue in my mouth. Kinda hot. She was also talking herself through a fantasy that I didn't request, but I rolled with it.
And this summer, I had some really good foreplay with a provider, but when the sex started, came too soon, and saw her struggle to suppress her rage. (It wasn't in an FKK, I had her booked for an hour and no more, so it wasn't due to lost business.)
Women are crazy. And yes, in this business, I recognize they're in it for the money (as my earlier post about ice cream goes.) And I've had the opposite experiences, WGs playing up interactions to extend the time, or laying out fantasies in hopes of making the sale on extra services.
But I've been around the block more than a few times, and every now and then you get these outliers. It's human chemistry, it's unpredictable. You can't buy it, but it does happen.
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Dec 2017 Tour Day 3: Sun 17 Dec FKK Oase
Oase has traditionally been my favourite club but lately it has fallen below Sharks and Palace in my estimation but nevertheless it always finds room in my schedule albeit these days it tends to get the Sunday slot at the end rather than Friday or Saturday. Last time it had some very tasty brunettes and I figured a couple of repeats and a couple of new girls would make it a grand day. I was particularly tantalised by a reported sighting by Bitumen of one of my second all time FKK favourite Jennifer who I last saw in 2015. Maybe it was my imagination running away with me but was planning on making her my "wife" for the day and having an initial two hour session with her and including her in all subsequent sessions. Sadly she was not there.
I got there before 4 pm to take advantage of the reduced E50 entry and assumed there must have been a staff meeting as there were barely half a dozen girls! One thing Oase has always had going for it is a minimum of 50-60 girls no matter what the day (I've often visited on a Sunday or Monday) but I doubt there were more than 25 girls throughout the evening. The general mix was as you would expect but there were therefore a smaller pool of head turners.
8. Daniella. One girl who was present was Daniella. I've been with her 5 times now but missed her the last couple of times. I would have gone with her in any event but with the slim pickings on offer she became even more alluring. The only other girl who caught my eye was a medium height brunette (albeit she had dyed her hair an auburnish hue) who was wearing black stockings, a black bra and facially was very pretty. With hindsight it may have been Beatrice with a new hairstyle who I had as a part of a threesome last time and was hoping to see again. We exchanged some nice glances and smiles but I was keen on starting the day with a sure fire winner.
Daniella is a tall, slim brunette with small tits who has without exception provided immaculate service every time I've taken her (though she does perform better on her own). Another great time, lots of kissing, foreplay, a good blow job and then she rode me for a while which is her speciality as she's the best I've had in that position. Then took a bit of a break before back to more sucking and then finished doing her in missionary. I was quite impressed by myself as normally on the third day, I'm only good to cum by blowies or handjobs. But I can't take all the credit. Daniella is a skilled companion in the boudoir and it was another wonderful hour. E100.
9. Emily. Unfortunately the other girl I fancied had slipped away (presumably a day shift girl) and there was little left to whet the appetite. Eventually found a young, naturally busty brunette with a pretty face so whisked her away to the room.
Session itself was perfectly fine. Told her to take her time which she was happy to do so so as to stretch it to an hour but her attempts to do so were a little clumsy as she tried to give a body to body massage or at least using her ample tits but she was squashing me more than teasing me. But bless, at least she tried! The session alternated with her giving me a blowjob, banging her for a bit, having a little rest and then repeat. Eventually came with a handjob. E100.
Went for a little sleep and woke up and it was 2 am. I didn't feel recharged and as I scanned the room nothing was calling me. I could have just about mustered another shot with a vigourous handjob but decided to call it quits. Overall, a disappointing night by Oase standards and if I had a car or had booked a room in Frankfurt rather than Friedrichsdorf, I would have gone to Sharks after my session with Daniella. I do hope it was a seasonal one-off rather than the start of a trend.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2121769]Oase has traditionally been my favourite club but lately it has fallen below Sharks and Palace in my estimation but nevertheless it always finds room in my schedule albeit these days it tends to get the Sunday slot at the end rather than Friday or Saturday. Last time it had some very tasty brunettes and I figured a couple of repeats and a couple of new girls would make it a grand day. I was particularly tantalised by a reported sighting by Bitumen of one of my second all time FKK favourite Jennifer who I last saw in 2015. Maybe it was my imagination running away with me but was planning on making her my "wife" for the day and having an initial two hour session with her and including her in all subsequent sessions. Sadly she was not there.
I got there before 4 pm to take advantage of the reduced E50 entry and assumed there must have been a staff meeting as there were barely half a dozen girls! One thing Oase has always had going for it is a minimum of 50-60 girls no matter what the day (I've often visited on a Sunday or Monday) but I doubt there were more than 25 girls throughout the evening. The general mix was as you would expect but there were therefore a smaller pool of head turners..[/QUOTE]Visited 2 Sundays in the recent weeks and confirm was you are saying not worth a visit, 1 Sunday I believed I was in a gay club probably 6 to 7 men for a girl, left without a session.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2121682]You can't buy it, but it does happen.[/QUOTE]More like you can't buy it, but you will pay for it.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2121781]More like you can't buy it, but you will pay for it.[/QUOTE]True. Have any of you guys, when contorting your face in your pre-climactic ritual, been told by a wg "NO, you will not leave me high and dry!" I have. Granted such a wg would be encountered in a small percentage of sessions but it does happen.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2121801]True. Have any of you guys, when contorting your face in your pre-climactic ritual, been told by a wg "NO, you will not leave me high and dry!" I have. [/QUOTE]Sure. There's girls who enjoy a good sessions. Others don't want to have a climax at all.
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Best FKK clubs to visit the week after new years eve?
Hey all,
Lask week Oase and Sharks had really bad cast. Almost left without having a session. In comparison to my visit before (Mid Aug) Oase had a lot of insane hot cast! Anyways, I will be there again next week. Jan /2 until 9th. I know its not the best time to visit, but any recommendation?
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[QUOTE=Nuupter;2110788]
Also saw this pale looking girl who has been working there for some time. She used to have blonde hair which curls at the few inches at the tip of her hair, but this time she dyed to straight, chesnut or reddish hair. Big boobs nice ass, don't know her name as she never apporaches me. Finds mostly asians. Think she said she is from russia but was walking around with her romanian friend with even bigger boobs than hers. Was lounging on a white sofa and when she and her friend was about to approach me, she pulls her romanian friend away to avoid me. LOL really? What I do?
[/QUOTE]Roxana, moldovian. Are you sure that she has avoided you?
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2122587]Roxana, moldovian. Are you sure that she has avoided you?[/QUOTE]Very white skin Roxana has big tits now? She made silicon? For sure, Roxana is Romanian. Great view in doggy. I enjoyed her on end of 2014.
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2122587]Roxana, moldovian. Are you sure that she has avoided you?[/QUOTE]Big is subjective, maybe a be or a see it's natural. She always looks serious, or moody one of them.
Avoid is not the right word. Angry or mad at me is the correct one. I must have rejected her the first time. Or she mistook me for someone else who made her angry. That's what her Romanian friend told me when she also tried to get me to the room, but I also rejected her friend and said maybe later, she then told me that is maybe why Roxanna is mad at me LOL. LOL if that's the case Roxanna just missed a chance to be my night shift regular, she is my type,pretty in my books,and all the girls I like are in the day shift. I have never interacted with her before from what I remember so I don't know what is going on. I rejected so many girls, but I find the one that takes it gleefully are the one with good service.
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The German girl at Oase?
Anyone knows the name of the 20-22 Yo German girl, thin, 5 ft - 5.2 ft, with short hair?. Not sure how I forgot her name. And if you know her schedule that would be great!
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2121975]Sure. There's girls who enjoy a good sessions. Others don't want to have a climax at all.[/QUOTE]I feel much sexier since so few others have chimed in on this topic.
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2122587]Roxana, moldovian. Are you sure that she has avoided you?[/QUOTE]She is not avoiding. I think she is just like that because with me it was the same. Or, maybe she just can't see very well.
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[QUOTE=Dittoow;2123148]Anyone knows the name of the 20-22 Yo German girl, thin, 5 ft - 5.2 ft, with short hair?. Not sure how I forgot her name. And if you know her schedule that would be great![/QUOTE]Why not asking the reception, they will be happy to help you.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2104418]LU growing steadily throughout the afternoon and no male crowds. Same buyer's market I'd witnessed years ago at Sharks' and it had also been on a Friday. Even allowing for a 20 euro tip / upsell and the occasionnal 100 euro upseller / scammer, where else in the World can I lick, finger and poke such gorgeous women for so little money? Not just sexy figures or pretty faces but the two together, sexy figures and pretty faces gathered on the same girl, where else? And the sheer variety of them all, not beautiful clones of one another as you would get in ethnically constrained pussy countries but an array of different types of sexiness, curvaceousness and facial perfection. This is Europe allright, with its History of wars, invasions and race mixing.
My bet is that even with a starting rate at 150 euros instead of 50 a club like this can stay in business.[/QUOTE]I don't believe, the number of 50 euros session is increasing a lot for the girls even many guys are refusing any extra preferring sessioning more different girls.
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December report.
This place continues to go downhill. 90% of the girls consider kissing, DATY an extra. The German customers has all but disappeared. Management is running out of time to fix the problem.
Some great girls that were not there in December included Carla 'the tits' and Claudia with tattoos.
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[QUOTE=Frank12;2125911]This place continues to go downhill. 90% of the girls consider kissing, DATY an extra. The German customers has all but disappeared. Management is running out of time to fix the problem.
Some great girls that were not there in December included Carla 'the tits' and Claudia with tattoos.[/QUOTE]The German guys are not willing to pay more than 50 or 100 and only for extra like anal or CIM but all the rest must be included it is the same for me. Oase is becoming a tourist place or a fair visitor club no need for the girls to invest their energy to provide decent service for a 1 shot customer, for me the girls are behaving mostly like at palace, but the LU is quite good compared to World, ROM etc. What is really stressing is that most of the girls are upselling extras like anal or CIM, even you decline it (I do not like anal because most of the time you get shit even with condom on the dick and it is really not smelling good too often, obviously the girls can't prepare herself before like porn actors).
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[QUOTE=Frank12;2125911]This place continues to go downhill. 90% of the girls consider kissing, DATY an extra. The German customers has all but disappeared. Management is running out of time to fix the problem.
Some great girls that were not there in December included Carla 'the tits' and Claudia with tattoos.[/QUOTE]Elsewhere, can have, with good manners, DFK which can be passionate, DATY with sometimes fingering when she wants to cum, some rub clit on your tongue, some put your fingers inside, for standard and for free of course, and even sometimes more for sex.
Just don't be stuck if you don t enjoy, many other places in FKK land.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2126417]Elsewhere, can have, with good manners, DFK which can be passionate, DATY with sometimes fingering when she wants to cum, some rub clit on your tongue, some put your fingers inside, for standard and for free of course, and even sometimes more for sex.
Just don't be stuck if you don t enjoy, many other places in FKK land.[/QUOTE]Visited Oase today, good to very good LU, very few guys so the ideal situation to get great time but not, most of the girls refused 50 euros session or stayed in the bar area ignoring me, spoke with one and told her why 50 euros in not possible she answered there is a big fair this week in Frankfurt so the prices are higher. The management has to tackle strongly those topic or Oase will follow palace and slowly disappear from the FKK scene.
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Quiet on here lately.
Been very quiet on the forum lately. What's going on at Oase? How many WG currently. What's the lineup looking like for end of March and middle of May?
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VetMILFHunter, because there are people who asked questions about the club, hotel, visited the club and never report anything, then ask more questions about the club and lineup, etc.
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End of March there should be about 67 women on a Friday night and 71 on a Saturday between 4:56 pm and 6:34 pm. I even got predictions for November 2024 if you ask.
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Badisweet,
My previous trip was postponed if you really needed to know. I'm now arriving March 22nd.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2128186]End of March there should be about 67 women on a Friday night and 71 on a Saturday between 4:56 pm and 6:34 pm. I even got predictions for November 2024 if you ask.[/QUOTE]Congratulations for the great answer.
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Messe in Frankfurt. Textilmesse. Excellent line up at Oase, 50-60 girls. Before 9pm not too many guys, after that crowds of drunken loud Messe guests arrived and I left.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2128153]Been very quiet on the forum lately. What's going on at Oase? How many WG currently. What's the lineup looking like for end of March and middle of May?[/QUOTE]Arrive before 4 pm for entry 50.
Orthodox Easter will be on 8 April, so not the best time to enjoy our beloved Romanian, but usually great time for ski in high altitude.
Relax room to sleep until 5 am.
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Similar heavy-Tattoo girls like Claudia?
Gentlemen,
Looking to try a girl with a lot of tattoos.
Got a recommendation on Claudia, at Oase.
Is there anyone that can confirm that she still works at Oase?
-Or do someone have a recommendation about another FKK girl with a lot of tattoos?
(we are talking about girls with many many many Tattoos. Not just a few of them).
Happy Weekend, JD.
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Didn't see Claudia last week. If you book her, talk about price before you do.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2128186]End of March there should be about 67 women on a Friday night and 71 on a Saturday between 4:56 pm and 6:34 pm. I even got predictions for November 2024 if you ask.[/QUOTE]I just put up a shot on your future.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2128186]End of March there should be about 67 women on a Friday night and 71 on a Saturday between 4:56 pm and 6:34 pm. I even got predictions for November 2024 if you ask.[/QUOTE]I just put up a short on your future.
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[QUOTE=JoshDales;2128478]Gentlemen,
Looking to try a girl with a lot of tattoos.
Got a recommendation on Claudia, at Oase.
Is there anyone that can confirm that she still works at Oase?
-Or do someone have a recommendation about another FKK girl with a lot of tattoos?
(we are talking about girls with many many many Tattoos. Not just a few of them).
Happy Weekend, JD.[/QUOTE]At GT now, half German half Turkish with tattoos everywhere and many piercings, even between upper teeth, small, smiling girl but she put weight on ass, ex Sharks. She is said to be good in bed, but I would not know where to touch her.
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Claudia.
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2128543]...If you book her, talk about price before you do.[/QUOTE]One of my sessions with Claudia.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016280]2) Claudia: 1600-1800 for E200, fingering and her massage for E50 and 5-degit fingering for E50 , the first time in the past four months, one of my favorites at Oase. Every time we meet, she invents new menus to get as much money as possible out of me. While fingering and her professional massage of E50 was on her last menu, this time she offered an invitation of my five fingers into her ****, almost fist fuck, so I happily accepted it. In a room, DFK, DATY with her first big O, missionary with her second O, her tobacco break, almost fist fuck, portio fingering with her third O, toilet break, excellent BBBJ, cow-girl with her fourth O, doggie with her successive O's, missionary with her seventh O, G-spot fingering DATY with her most intensive eighth O which led her to dizziness, tobacco break, her 20 min professional massage. Must repeat.[/QUOTE]
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You take the girl 2 hours and you have to pay 50 € more for a massage? What the fuck? And I think you forgot the ninth O, the big one which led her to the Gucci store, when you paid her.
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Claudia/Kim/Aida
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2128602]You take the girl 2 hours and you have to pay 50 more for a massage? What the fuck? And I think you forgot the ninth O, the big one which led her to the Gucci store, when you paid her.[/QUOTE]I have had sessions with her once or twice a year ever since I first met her in Mainhatten 5 years ago. They had always been very standard sessions at standard pricing. With other girls, I would not have repeated, but I had/have been spell-bound by her prettiness.
However in one session in Oase last year, she for the first time suggested body-to-body erotic massage for 50 euros extra. It was done with much gusto and pussy-grinding. Her pussy area became very warm and suddenly there was an outpouring of juice when she had a big O (to use YamaYama's parlance). She carried on grinding and my own O came rapidly! This erotic massage was certainly worth the extra 50 euros. Must repeat.
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Lots of new girls, many goof choices.
Went to Oase last night (Saturday): very impressive line up, lots of optics and, from my perspective, lots of good service to be found. I had three sessions all I have haabove average and no problem to find and BJ the way we like it, even with new girls. I tried two new girls and both were top sessions, actually some of the best I have had in a long time.
Had in many moons.
Things are looking up at this club, I am encouraged about the 2018 state of affairs at this club, and also at Sharks, based on my visit there the previous night.
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Be careful with Claudia / Kim / Aida /, that's all I say. She can deliver good service for standard pricing, probably not in a 50€ session. But even in a 1 or 2 hour session she might ask extra money for digits. After the session. Big turn off. And if she does erotic massage, why pay her more than the time? I don't get it.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2128670]Went to Oase last night (Saturday): very impressive line up, lots of optics and, from my perspective, lots of good service to be found. I had three sessions all I have haabove average and no problem to find and BJ the way we like it, even with new girls. I tried two new girls and both were top sessions, actually some of the best I have had in a long time.
Had in many moons.
Things are looking up at this club, I am encouraged about the 2018 state of affairs at this club, and also at Sharks, based on my visit there the previous night.[/QUOTE]All 30 minutes at 50 E I assume.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2128670]Went to Oase last night (Saturday): very impressive line up, lots of optics and, from my perspective, lots of good service to be found. I had three sessions all I have haabove average and no problem to find and BJ the way we like it, even with new girls. I tried two new girls and both were top sessions, actually some of the best I have had in a long time.
Had in many moons.
Things are looking up at this club, I am encouraged about the 2018 state of affairs at this club, and also at Sharks, based on my visit there the previous night.[/QUOTE]Can confirm it, great LU this week may be due to the big fair, service like before no up selling.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;2128746]All 30 minutes at 50 E I assume.[/QUOTE]One session was a 60 minutes /100 e with a long time regular girl I've seen steady for more than three years, so that one, as always top-notch session, was "understood and unstated" going in because I always do hour Zimmer with her, no discussion, nor much talk even, just 50+minutes of erotic oral ecstasy, etc. , etc.
The other two sessions with new girls (one of them on the night before her 20th birthday, so she said) were Zimmers that started off as standard 30-minute test runs, but the girls were so cute and great bodies, the kissing so warm and passionate and all of the service so good, I extended to longer sessions in both cases and with very good results. I had almost the same experience at Sharks the night before.
The point is that things are good in Hessen at the moment with lots of new talent and a steady steam of girls returning. There's great service to be had, but you have to work through the line ups, develop chemistry (or avoid rooms when there is no chemistry) if you can. Also: In many cases you have to be ready to go beyond 30 minutes /50 e to get the top service. That's my opinion and I also opine that this is "the trend" now, this is this the way the river is flowing. And we all know: swimming against the current is not a successful approach.
But to each there own.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2128880]One session was a 60 minutes /100 e with a long time regular girl I've seen steady for more than three years, so that one, as always top-notch session, was "understood and unstated" going in because I always do hour Zimmer with her, no discussion, nor much talk even, just 50+minutes of erotic oral ecstasy, etc. , etc.
The other two sessions with new girls (one of them on the night before her 20th birthday, so she said) were Zimmers that started off as standard 30-minute test runs, but the girls were so cute and great bodies, the kissing so warm and passionate and all of the service so good, I extended to longer sessions in both cases and with very good results. I had almost the same experience at Sharks the night before.
The point is that things are good in Hessen at the moment with lots of new talent and a steady steam of girls returning. There's great service to be had, but you have to work through the line ups, develop chemistry (or avoid rooms when there is no chemistry) if you can. Also: In many cases you have to be ready to go beyond 30 minutes /50 e to get the top service. That's my opinion and I also opine that this is "the trend" now, this is this the way the river is flowing. And we all know: swimming against the current is not a successful approach.
But to each there own.[/QUOTE]For sure, when you take time to treat, even prostitutes, like women, not only fucking like a rabbit, they will give you back, they are so surprised. Same than in real life.
With top sensual girls, my foreplay can be over 1 hour, kissing everywhere, working to drink their liquid. I love my German model licking my fingers full of her cyprine, or coming to kiss me or sucking my fingers while I fuck her. Sex is so real with her, as soon I cum, after 10 mn playing with her body, with chicken skin everywhere and hard nipples, I can fuck her again. She is my viagra, but after her, not much libido for others now.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2128880]One session was a 60 minutes /100 e with a long time regular girl I've seen steady for more than three years, so that one, as always top-notch session, was "understood and unstated" going in because I always do hour Zimmer with her, no discussion, nor much talk even, just 50+minutes of erotic oral ecstasy, etc. , etc.
The other two sessions with new girls (one of them on the night before her 20th birthday, so she said) were Zimmers that started off as standard 30-minute test runs, but the girls were so cute and great bodies, the kissing so warm and passionate and all of the service so good, I extended to longer sessions in both cases and with very good results. I had almost the same experience at Sharks the night before.
The point is that things are good in Hessen at the moment with lots of new talent and a steady steam of girls returning. There's great service to be had, but you have to work through the line ups, develop chemistry (or avoid rooms when there is no chemistry) if you can. Also: In many cases you have to be ready to go beyond 30 minutes /50 e to get the top service. That's my opinion and I also opine that this is "the trend" now, this is this the way the river is flowing. And we all know: swimming against the current is not a successful approach.
But to each there own.[/QUOTE]It is exactly my approach to start with 50 session and see what happen in the room, I am not so optimistic about new talents entering the business they are more moving from one place to another that really newcomers despite what they say, usually the girls to attract the guys will never say that they are many years in the business and that you are the 20000 mongers or more fucking her.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2128880]The other two sessions with new girls (one of them on the night before her 20th birthday, so she said) were Zimmers that started off as standard 30-minute test runs, but the girls were so cute and great bodies, the kissing so warm and passionate and all of the service so good, I extended to longer sessions in both cases and with very good results.[/QUOTE]Names would be very helpful.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2128914]Names would be very helpful.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I agree, under normal conditions. And I ' ve always provided names with my pre-July '17 posts. But now, naming names would point the finger (and you wouldn’t want that, right?) at girls who are in violation of the German Bundes BBBJ Law (or Bundes League, or whatever the fuck it is?), because, and let it be known here far and wide: I am a huge fan of BBBJ and I don't enter Zimmer with girls who don't. Capisce, Paesano?
But I would be happy to share names in a PM format, or over a coffee if we ever meet up at one of these shrines.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2128914]Names would be very helpful.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]No need 95% of the girls will do it, I am on holiday and visited several times the big Hessen FKK in the last weeks and tried new girls all provide it without even asking, at the condition that you are clean a bit attractive and respecting them. A new girl from Shark told me that she was asked to do it without by the management to attract customers I believe, as I wrote it many times nobody cares about this aspect of the new law, it was a cosmetic thing to make the rest acceptable by the girls which is far more impacting for them tax income for example.
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Awesome.
[QUOTE=Ortos;2129038]I agree, under normal conditions. And I ' ve always provided names with my pre-July '17 posts. But now, naming names would point the finger (and you wouldnt want that, right?) at girls who are in violation of the German Bundes BBBJ Law (or Bundes League, or whatever the fuck it is?), because, and let it be known here far and wide: I am a huge fan of BBBJ and I don't enter Zimmer with girls who don't. Capisce, Paesano?
But I would be happy to share names in a PM format, or over a coffee if we ever meet up at one of these shrines.[/QUOTE]Very good report! Thank you. Can't wait for March to hurry up and get here.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2129204]Very good report! Thank you. Can't wait for March to hurry up and get here.[/QUOTE]The line up change every week or even every days now. The good LU in January does not mean it will be good in March. But it I good to know there are good LU at Shark and Oase now.
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I can confirm the presence of two stunners at Oase. I had sex with them both because I only like stunners. One is Amanda from Moldova and she's 19. The other is Claudia from Romania and she's 24. She only just got back from holidays. The Russian girl that's been there for years was also there today but she said she's only there for a couple of days. She's also a bit chubbier now unfortunately.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2128670]Went to Oase last night (Saturday): very impressive line up, lots of optics and, from my perspective, lots of good service to be found.
Things are looking up at this club, I am encouraged about the 2018 state of affairs at this club[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ortos;2128880]
The point is that things are good in Hessen at the moment with lots of new talent and a steady steam of girls returning. There's great service to be had.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for reporting back from your grueling field work Ortos! Glad to hear your good news.
Excellent news that 2018 is not going to go down in history as the year of the FKK-apocalypse.
Very encouraging news!
I am now certain that I will sleep well tonight with many sweet dreams.
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Another stunner.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2129700]Many thanks for reporting back from your grueling field work Ortos! Glad to hear your good news.
Excellent news that 2018 is not going to go down in history as the year of the FKK-apocalypse.
Very encouraging news!
I am now certain that I will sleep well tonight with many sweet dreams.[/QUOTE]Bratty Brianna for some.
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Thanks for the update Ortos and George2.
Ortos, which line up do you like better, Sharks or Oase?
George2, how did you like Amanda service? She was not so good in the past so a few of us never repeated with her. Hopefully her service has improved.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2129792]Thanks for the update Ortos and George2.
Ortos, which line up do you like better, Sharks or Oase?
George2, how did you like Amanda service? She was not so good in the past so a few of us never repeated with her. Hopefully her service has improved.[/QUOTE]But how is Amanda for beauty for you compare to Kate? Back from holidays at GT, or Madi? If you know her at Sharks, even Madi is 28, but woman type, natural, white skin beauty. Corina is also pretty face for me at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2129792]Thanks for the update Ortos and George2.
Ortos, which line up do you like better, Sharks or Oase?
George2, how did you like Amanda service? She was not so good in the past so a few of us never repeated with her. Hopefully her service has improved.[/QUOTE]She's sort of a bratty little teen with a bit of an attitude problem. But I like that sort of thing and I actually started to feel an emotion of 'love' for her which is something I haven't felt in a long time.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2129792]Ortos, which line up do you like better, Sharks or Oase?.[/QUOTE]Good question, begs for simple answer "Yes" or "No" but actually more complicated, because of many variables involved: Day / time of visit, number and type of girls on given day will vary and number / type of competing male punters varies too etc, which affects availability and access, etc. Also each of us might be biased to one club line you over another simply because we may have more "favorites " or "steady girls" at a particular club at a particular time.
I will say this: over past year or more I've generally found Shark's lineups more to my liking. However, right now (this week) I happen to find the Oase lineup more intriguing with lots of optics and many new / newish girls with a good mix of returning regulars. Another factor: there are significantly fewer men at Oase vs Sharks right now, making access to girls you might want easy, plus so many are work-starved so you can get lots of time on couch (with correct approach and chemistry) and, I have had no problem getting very good to extremely impressive service at Oaseesp the past visits: on Saturday, Monday and esp last night Tuesday. I visited Sharks twice recently and was very happy with line up but place was more busy with men and girls were less accessible (generally) and not as receptive to sitting with me for intimate get to know each other chats. At Sharks it was (again generally) more slam-bam conversations with girls pushing for "Zimmer, baby?" too fast, at Oase I find it now more relaxed, esp Monday / Tuesday were there were tons of girls but hardly any men. The plus: real buyers market. But the negative: not always a party atmosphere.
One thing I find advantagous about Oase in terms of assessing the club's lineup is the wooden room key rack behind the bar: when you first emerge up the stairs showered and ready to see who's there and what the lineup looks like, it's very useful to scan the number of keys hanging on the rack. Now you know roughly how many girls are occupied or not and can add / subtract from what you see on the floor and who you imagine may be in between locker and lounge, etc. I like this feature vs (for example) Sharks where you have no idea how many girls are busy in room, unless you stalk the room areas like a weirdo pervert or something.
But to return to the original question: I like both lineups right now, but a preference for Oase this week. We all know this can change on a dime (quickly), as it always does. But I've Had some great sessions with newish girls at Oase this week and I think the more relaxed atmospherics, easy access and girl willingness to get to know each other (often physically) in the couch plays a role here. But I still like both clubs, a lot.
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A footnote to my post a few days ago: I went back on Monday and had second session with a newish girl I tried for first time on Saturday, where she gave me off the charts service. Second session was quite good, but not the fireworks of the first time. Ok, fair enough, but she tried to short-change me on the time (how shocking, lol) by fifteen-ten minutes on an hour session), then asked for an extra tenner "for my tobacco" I told her she was short- sighted to shave the time and as for her tobacco request: I told her to quit cigarettes and smoke good sativa instead. She had no idea.
This kind of thing can / does happen (no not just at Oase, but at any-all clubs), but lest we blame the whole barrel because of a few bad apples, let me say that last night late on rear couch's, I found (or did she find me?) a top notch service girl, new to me at least, a 23 year old Former gymnast with great ass and even better attitude: again on of the best sessions in a long, long time. On that Tuesday night most girls had no work. The click ticks towards the wee hours and the girls get looser, I found. Once again let me be clear: I offered this girl the prospect of a longer session if the vibe and service was good. It wasn't good, it was excellent! She kissed me like a long lost lover, and blowjob was just bliss and generously erotic and slow. I told her I would extend and she delivered. No way to get this for a mere 50 e, honestly.
This is a fact, this our reality. I swim with the current, not against it. Of course it helps to have the bankroll and I admit to being in a better position this week after going to Spielbank Wiesbaden on Sunday and placing 1st in the poker tournament, bolstering my monger bankroll by over 1000 euros cash. But that doesn't mean I flash the cash T these girls: No, O just play the chess game starting with the small pawn moves (starting with a minimum 50 e session), but upgrading the session to higher levels as each case warrants.
Sorry that ended u as a long footnote.
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Thanks for the long and detailed answer Ortos. Oase it is!
Siri, as Gorge2 said, Amanda is teeny looking type. So, she's not your "woman look". Of course, not too many people will beat our Kate in the look department. And thanks for the update with Kate's return. But I don't know if I want to drive 2. 5-3 hrs to GT when I can just go to Sharks or Oase.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2129916]Thanks for the long and detailed answer Ortos. Oase it is!.[/QUOTE]Bear in mind that what works for me might not work for you. I still think Sharks is / can be impressive right now. Probably best to visit both clubs back to back and then decide for yourself.
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Amanda
[QUOTE=Gorge2;2129638]I can confirm the presence of two stunners at Oase. I had sex with them both because I only like stunners. One is Amanda from Moldova and she's 19...[/QUOTE]My session with Amanda.
[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2016280]3) Amanda: 1950-2040 for E100,18 yo, semi-long black hair, 160 cm, firm A-cup, typical GND. I accepted her second offer of E100 for one-hour room with kissing her whole body, 3 min after my non-acceptance of her first offer of E150 for one-hour room with kissing. In a room she still stuck to her first proposal, so I requested our withdrawal from the room, then she reluctantly came back to her second offer. She made me lie down on the bed, put her tits and pussy on my mouth. This might be "kissing" according to her. Unskillful CBJ, cow-girl, reverse cow-girl in place of doggie, which she refused, missionary without her legs on my shoulders, which I love, my dick starting sleeping, the second CBJ, doggie, which she requested be slow, missionary with her legs on shoulders this time, my dick starting sleeping again, BBBJ, during which I wasn't allowed to touch her pussy, missionary, her 10 min-remain call, my correction to 20 min, her unskillful massage, my coaching of how to massage and we left 10 min before 1 hour. I should have followed KL's and Samcik's advice. Not repeat.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2129916]Thanks for the long and detailed answer Ortos. Oase it is!
Siri, as Gorge2 said, Amanda is teeny looking type. So, she's not your "woman look". Of course, not too many people will beat our Kate in the look department. And thanks for the update with Kate's return. But I don't know if I want to drive 2. 5-3 hrs to GT when I can just go to Sharks or Oase.[/QUOTE]For this wonderful Tatar, from far deep Russia, I left Paris at 5 am to drive to Milano through icy San Bernardino I climb on Summer, had 2 great hours with this angel who was attacked in Paris and left after few days some months ago. After our meeting with super organization from Amore Russo agency, I drove back to Paris, also through San Bernardino with ice on road on top. From 5 am, to 2 am on next day, 1800 kms driven for 2 dreamed hours with her. She couldn't believe, she gave me her best.
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[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;2130016]My session with Amanda..[/QUOTE]Except anal and CIM in a 1 hour everything have to be included if not pass your way so many girls are offering it.
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Sirioja,
Is she now at Oase? Or where?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2130058]Sirioja,
Is she now at Oase? Or where?[/QUOTE]Just to answer Badin, I drove 16 hours in 1 day for her, going to her for 2 hours and back. Russian escort, 200/ h in Milano. I met her before and later in Paris, with Amour Russe agency.
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Amanda
I had a session with Amanda last October and remembered that it was quite a good one. Started with 30 minutes, but I extended it to 1 hour, without her asking, because she was quite 'loving' to me; and I resolved to get her again in my next visit to Oase.
At that time, I did not know about her reputation as I had not been reading the Oase thread. It is quite interesting now to see all the reports about her. I must gave been lucky on that day, or maybe she behaved herself because it was a very slow Tuesday for the girls, with barely about 30 customers while there were about 60 girls.
Another teeny-looking girl I tried then, who was even cuter than Amanda, was Monica. And Monica I think has the potential to match Madi in terms of prettiness one day when she matures.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2130127]I had a session with Amanda last October and remembered that it was quite a good one. Started with 30 minutes, but I extended it to 1 hour, without her asking, because she was quite 'loving' to me; and I resolved to get her again in my next visit to Oase.
At that time, I did not know about her reputation as I had not been reading the Oase thread. It is quite interesting now to see all the reports about her. I must gave been lucky on that day, or maybe she behaved herself because it was a very slow Tuesday for the girls, with barely about 30 customers while there were about 60 girls.
Another teeny-looking girl I tried then, who was even cuter than Amanda, was Monica. And Monica I think has the potential to match Madi in terms of prettiness one day when she matures.[/QUOTE]I never read any report about a girl before going to the room, some guys are just creating the buzz what happen in the room is a matter of chemistry and not a technical thing.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2130127]I had a session with Amanda last October and remembered that it was quite a good one. Started with 30 minutes, but I extended it to 1 hour, without her asking, because she was quite 'loving' to me; and I resolved to get her again in my next visit to Oase.
At that time, I did not know about her reputation as I had not been reading the Oase thread. It is quite interesting now to see all the reports about her. I must gave been lucky on that day, or maybe she behaved herself because it was a very slow Tuesday for the girls, with barely about 30 customers while there were about 60 girls.
Another teeny-looking girl I tried then, who was even cuter than Amanda, was Monica. And Monica I think has the potential to match Madi in terms of prettiness one day when she matures.[/QUOTE]Now there will be a bunch of tourists looking for Amanda. Just like Mandy at Sharks. The sheep always follow instead of lead. There is talent everywhere if you know how to look.
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TankTank123, maybe she has improved since then. She was inexperience when she started. One of my favorites actually pulled her aside, gave her a talk and told her she would need to improve to get a repeated customer, etc. Though, my first session with her was so bad that I don't want to find out how she is now.
Siri, I seriously thought that was a picture of Kate! If I need to drive that much, I might as well fly or take a train. You are a true fans.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2130304]Siri, I seriously thought that was a picture of Kate! If I need to drive that much, I might as well fly or take a train. You are a true fans.[/QUOTE]For my respect for my girls and Kate, I would never show private photos. My girls know I'm a writer, many guys tell them about me, but they trust me when they experience how I behave with them.
I'm more attracted by woman type look, than little girl types.
If I stress when driving in traffic, driving as fast as possible to the grip limit, relax me. When I returned from Zoya. Ru in Milano, driving at night on ice on top of Gran San Bernardino, higher than 2400 meters, while they were closing the top, only tunnel working after, was pure adrenaline, with car going like being drunk.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2130127]I had a session with Amanda last October and remembered that it was quite a good one. Started with 30 minutes, but I extended it to 1 hour, without her asking, because she was quite 'loving' to me; and I resolved to get her again in my next visit to Oase.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Helps me a lot to classify your reports. If you think Amanda is quite good and loving to you so you extend to an hour, that says a lot about your expectations to a session. She was and is (to me and many others I talked to) one of the worst sessions you can get in Hessen.
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Regarding previous Ladies.
I visited Oase last April 2017, I believe is was a Tuesday. I met a beautiful blonde, blue eyes, a little older, but gorgeous. Also, said she lived in Frankfurt or was from Frankfurt (sorry that all I really remember about her). I don't remember her name, she told me she only works Tuesdays. Could anyone point me in the right direction on finding her name, I'll be back this April and want to make sure I see her if she still works there.
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Amanda.
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2130391]Thank you. Helps me a lot to classify your reports. If you think Amanda is quite good and loving to you so you extend to an hour, that says a lot about your expectations to a session. She was and is (to me and many others I talked to) one of the worst sessions you can get in Hessen.[/QUOTE]With 7 years of FKK experience, Amanda was my worst session every. Very cute but pure upsell when we entered the room. After I showed my dissatisfaction, she finally shut up and did perform although my mood was destroyed. Never to repeat although she still is the best looker for me in the house.
Further, from my observations she has too many rooms under 15 minutes. Performance in the room is just as, if not more, important that preferred looks.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2130391]Thank you. Helps me a lot to classify your reports. If you think Amanda is quite good and loving to you so you extend to an hour, that says a lot about your expectations to a session. She was and is (to me and many others I talked to) one of the worst sessions you can get in Hessen.[/QUOTE]I don't know Amanda, but some guys who went to some of my favorites after reading me, never understood why I have weekly rooms for months with these girls. These guys never repeated, we don't all have same tastes, same demand, they were not me to get from these girls, you have to make a girl being good for you. If he decided to extend, she should not be so bad with him, maybe he was lucky she was in a good day, maybe you didn't succeed to treat her in her good way, when he found her key?
Girls don't behave the same with all of us, we get from our behavior. Sometimes, you could even feel some girls really like you, not only your money.
When I read many upselling at Sharks, except Madi2, no upselling nor tip asked for me, even since I'm not anymore a weekly regular.
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[QUOTE=JoeBizzy;2130434]I visited Oase last April 2017, I believe is was a Tuesday. I met a beautiful blonde, blue eyes, a little older, but gorgeous. Also, said she lived in Frankfurt or was from Frankfurt (sorry that all I really remember about her). I don't remember her name, she told me she only works Tuesdays. Could anyone point me in the right direction on finding her name, I'll be back this April and want to make sure I see her if she still works there.[/QUOTE]Go on Tuesday. Oase desk don't know girls, they can't say if she works or not?
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Agreed. Worst session ever as well for over 5 years.
[QUOTE=Frank12;2130493]With 7 years of FKK experience, Amanda was my worst session every. Very cute but pure upsell when we entered the room. After I showed my dissatisfaction, she finally shut up and did perform although my mood was destroyed. Never to repeat although she still is the best looker for me in the house.
Further, from my observations she has too many rooms under 15 minutes. Performance in the room is just as, if not more, important that preferred looks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Frank12;2130493]With 7 years of FKK experience, Amanda was my worst session every. Very cute but pure upsell when we entered the room. After I showed my dissatisfaction, she finally shut up and did perform although my mood was destroyed. Never to repeat although she still is the best looker for me in the house.
Further, from my observations she has too many rooms under 15 minutes. Performance in the room is just as, if not more, important that preferred looks.[/QUOTE]For sure, upselling is a mood killer. I hate to speak about money with girls, it makes me feel it s only paid sex, so, no more illusion, no interest to fuck even the prettiest prostitute behavior. Just club rate for me. Nevertheless, some girls are used to some kind of clients, but your behavior can make them change their behavior with You.
I was lucky to meet on first time my German model escort in a club, because I would not have met her in her hotel. When I saw her and came to her, she told me she wanted clients who would pay 100/30 mn and looking for extras like anal or expensive others, I answered we will see. We had to wait a bit for a free room, when we were chatting on couch, she put her fingers in mine and was stuck to me, she said she didn't have time to eat, when she came to get the key, I came to take her a drink and something to eat, I let her eat when we arrived in room, she was looking at me like a alien, I had 2 exceptional, very wet hours with her, I had a lot of her liquid to drink, trying anal but too big / too tight. At the end, I said to her I would be happy to see her again, she gave me her number, I asked her how much she wanted for our room after what she told when I came to her, I was afraid she answered 100*4*30 mn +100 for anal, she looked at me and said we stayed 4 times 30 mn, so 4 times 50 €. Since our first room on 9 December, I had 7 other meetings with her, only paying her half rate escort, with extras for free, 1 extra have no rate, just as a present, only paying for time for sex, and she says she is lucky I drive from Paris to Germany for her. I wonder who is lucky, but I know my behavior on couch and at the beginning of the room on our first time made me save a lot of money. A 1,77 top beauty with Asian eyes, a escort for clubs rate with many extras for free, for pleasure because she ask for this sex. She even canceled appointments on 3 times, after our sex, she didn't want to have more sex on these nights.
About time girls spend in room, my record room girl I meet since September 2015 , now busy superstar at VIP GT, is said to finish fast guys, she was said to stay only 7 minutes between taking and giving back the key, but for our more than 65 rooms now, she never did this with me. I had many 1 very full, enjoyable hour with her, and she is very honest, we never speak about money. I think she is happy I go with her since so long time and so often, even not so often than when I had 2 rooms a day with her at Aca.
I experienced girls behave from how You behave, and manners can save money. Of course, I don t know for Amanda.
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Girls more and more pathetic.
First time in 15 years of FKK that I saw in such a extreme way the girls hunting asian guys, each time they just enter the bar area usually by small group of 3 or 4 numerous girls aggressively surrounded them, happily most of the guys rejected the girls but immediately other girls approached them. Business for the girls was quite slow today until 9 PM, good to very good LU in term of quantity and quality.
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Oase
Hello fellow FKK lovers.
I have not been for 2 years in this club but probably back in the neighbourhood end of this month.
I tried to read a few pages in the thread, but could not notice if the prices are still the same like 2 years ago.
Is it still 70 EUR income and 50 for alf an hour with a girl?
What is now a days standard service?
Cheers.
M.
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[QUOTE=Marco81;2131637]Hello fellow FKK lovers.
I have not been for 2 years in this club but probably back in the neighbourhood end of this month.
I tried to read a few pages in the thread, but could not notice if the prices are still the same like 2 years ago.
Is it still 70 EUR income and 50 for alf an hour with a girl?
What is now a days standard service?
Cheers.
M.[/QUOTE]Entry 50 if you arrive before 4 pm.
DFK are not always standard for 50 at Oase.
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[QUOTE=Marco81;2131637]Hello fellow FKK lovers.
I have not been for 2 years in this club but probably back in the neighbourhood end of this month.
I tried to read a few pages in the thread, but could not notice if the prices are still the same like 2 years ago.
Is it still 70 EUR income and 50 for alf an hour with a girl?
What is now a days standard service?
Cheers.
M.[/QUOTE]If you can arrive before 4 PM you will pay 50 euros, can find some good provider for 50 euros including BJ with condom most probably and 2 positions better to go directly for 1 hour and 100 euros better service garanti.
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[QUOTE=Marco81;2131637]Hello fellow FKK lovers.
I have not been for 2 years in this club but probably back in the neighbourhood end of this month.
I tried to read a few pages in the thread, but could not notice if the prices are still the same like 2 years ago.
Is it still 70 EUR income and 50 for alf an hour with a girl?
What is now a days standard service?
Cheers.
M.[/QUOTE]If you get there before 4 pm it is 50 e entry. Same price for 30 min. But the trend lately has been girls at Oase upselling extras more. Some of which used to be included in the past. However newer recent reports claim it has gotten better with less upselling. But you never know before you get there yourself right?
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Free gifts at Oase
Oase are giving out branded orange caps with the Oase logo saying "Simply the Best".
And also black umbrellas with the same logo of FKK Oase ad the logo "Simply the Best" and Veni, Vidi, Veci.
Some guys, Turkish boys too them then realising layer on the road what was on them just free a stream of them throughout BHH village. I guess the village people of BHH for some free umbrellas and caps from Oase.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2131668]Oase are giving out branded orange caps with the Oase logo saying "Simply the Best".
And also black umbrellas with the same logo of FKK Oase ad the logo "Simply the Best" and Veni, Vidi, Veci.
Some guys, Turkish boys too them then realising layer on the road what was on them just free a stream of them throughout BHH village. I guess the village people of BHH for some free umbrellas and caps from Oase.[/QUOTE]I wonder if the locals there like to have such a high profile brothel next door? I mean, I once shared taxi with a local woman in her late 40's or early 50's who had been in bad homburg shopping. And she at least got a much cheaper taxi ride home.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2131666]If you get there before 4 pm it is 50 e entry. Same price for 30 min. But the trend lately has been girls at Oase upselling extras more. Some of which used to be included in the past. However newer recent reports claim it has gotten better with less upselling. But you never know before you get there yourself right?[/QUOTE]No up selling any more, quite strange and against the new law the girls have to do BBBJ without extra, like in Shark only World is strict on this front, shame for the German authorities not to apply the new law, as I reported many times they don t care about the health of poor Romanian girls.
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LU medio / ultimo January 2018
A few names of the among 110- 130 girls observed lately:
Adina.
Alexa (model mit brille).
Alexa (Ro / Thai).
Alice / Alyss1 (young, slim, pretty eyes / face).
Alice / Alyss2.
Aliona.
Amanda.
Amira.
Amy.
Ariana.
Betty.
Brianna.
Carla.
Cheyenne.
Christa.
Cora.
Deborah.
Denisa.
Donna1 (EE silicon).
Donna2 (C-chest silicon).
Elisa.
Incognito.
Inna.
Jany, Bu.
Jenni, Bu.
Jessica (now redhead).
Jill, De??
Joanna, De.
Juicy.
Julia (dark blond, silicones).
Julie, Spain.
Larissa.
Luisa.
Maddie (Madi).
Maria1 (curly black hair, tall, good German).
Maria2 (black hair, corset).
Marina.
Maya.
Melissa.
Mia.
Montana.
Natalia.
Raissa.
Ralucca.
Rebecca.
Roxana.
Tessy, Jamaica (via Ghana?)
Tina.
Vera.
Please feel free to add names to the list.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2131823]A few names of the among 110- 130 girls observed lately:
Adina.
Alexa (model mit brille).
Alexa (Ro / Thai).
Alice / Alyss1 (young, slim, pretty eyes / face).
Alice / Alyss2.
Aliona.
Amanda.
Amira.
Amy.
Ariana.
Betty.
Brianna.
Carla.
Cheyenne.
Christa.
Cora..[/QUOTE]Is Ina, blond small Latvian?
Is Madi, Romanian blond with tattoo between silicon tits? Ex History Basel Liestal.
On my last visit, I saw a blond with hair to the neck, model natural body, no big tattoo, quite white skin, usually staying on the left when entering in the dark lounge, but Madi ex History upselling and a Bulgarian brunette model look but so average level, killed my desire for the day. Only 100 spent for 2 girls when I spend hours with beautiful woman behavior girls.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2131668]Oase are giving out branded orange caps with the Oase logo saying "Simply the Best".
And also black umbrellas with the same logo of FKK Oase ad the logo "Simply the Best" and Veni, Vidi, Veci.
Some guys, Turkish boys too them then realising layer on the road what was on them just free a stream of them throughout BHH village. I guess the village people of BHH for some free umbrellas and caps from Oase.[/QUOTE]Was there this week end I saw the caps just find them awful, with a terrible orange color.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2131836]Is Ina, blond small Latvian?[/QUOTE]He wrote Inna though. Not that I've heard of Inna. Is it the same as big titted young slim blonde Ina? Romanian I believe.
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Oase
Thanks for the update guys. Lets see if I find a free evening the upcoming week to go check it out again!
Cheers.
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A regular's experience
In my experience there has not been an instance of covered blow job at Oase and even public blow jobs continue at Oase. I do not even have to ask or negotiate, it just happens. DFK as well. The girls all DFK too.
I find the girls give a fair amount of couch time, are well relaxed compared to Sharks girls and at night when the Manele and Turkish music comes on there is an amazing atmosphere that you never get at Sharks. The girls just hang out with you and do not ask for a room. They just enjoy your company and maybe get a massage from you. I get a fair amount of nude women wanting attention and its all cool.
I cite the Ortos defense that I will not name the girls since to do so will put in jeopardy any girl that performs this beloved BBBJ service for her customers.
Another regular that I know that attends Oase had a contrasting experience. He is a local man. So not a foreigner from the promised lands. He has been banging a tute at Oase for years and so is well known to her. The last days he goes to Oase and he books his favorite tute. In the room they go about the business, then it comes to the blowjob where the tute pulls a condom from her purse and proceeds to place the condom on his stiff cock. The question goes, hey, its not correct to have a covered blowjob. We know each other for long time. The tute explains that the club and the law is that the sex including the blowjob must be covered with a johnny and there is no exceptions. The local man is upset but he is committed to the room. He want that this story is told so that there is balance to the experiences of others.
It is not all blowjob no condom for everyone.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2131823]A few names of the among 110- 130 girls observed lately:
Incognito.
Please feel free to add names to the list.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the line up list.
I would like to add Adele to your list.
The club before 10 pm is jammed packed with tutes as the morning and evening shifts are co-mingled so your estimate is correct for January in my experience.
Incognito is still doing well. She get paid in yellow 200 euro notes by her regular man.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2131836]Is Ina, blond small Latvian?[/QUOTE]I doubt it is the same girl. Inna is Romanian, and if you had seen her you would be bound to mention her tits. Blond, yes. Big nose, yes. I would not say small, more like medium height. Slim. Pretty face.
No personal experience.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2131836]Is Madi, Romanian blond with tattoo between silicon tits? Ex History Basel Liestal.[/QUOTE]Yes, this can be the same girl. I don't recall any tattoos, but the rest matches. Quite tall. Almost perfect model body. No personal experience, but if she is used to Swiss pricing it must be hard to adjust to German FKK pricing.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2132078]I would like to add Adele to your list.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Stefania, Ro is also in attendance.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2132079]I doubt it is the same girl. Inna is Romanian, and if you had seen her you would be bound to mention her tits. Blond, yes. Big nose, yes. I would not say small, more like medium height. Slim. Pretty face.
No personal experience.
Yes, this can be the same girl. I don't recall any tattoos, but the rest matches. Quite tall. Almost perfect model body. No personal experience, but if she is used to Swiss pricing it must be hard to adjust to German FKK pricing.[/QUOTE]Not legendary Latvian Ina.
About Madi ex History. Ch, impossible to miss her big tattoo between silicon tits. She was a great GF at History for 149 CHF for 45 mn for our 3 rooms on December 2016, I left the room after 15 mn at Oase, refusing to pay 50 extra for kissing. Kissing is the way I judge how girls like me, from how they kiss me, some are passionate, so, if I have to pay extra, then girl doesn't interest me.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2132076]In my experience there has not been an instance of covered blow job at Oase and even public blow jobs continue at Oase. I do not even have to ask or negotiate, it just happens. DFK as well. The girls all DFK too.[/QUOTE]Man, I hope your luck continues. I can only wish that it was my experience. IME upsell attempts for both DFK, DATY and BJ without do exist, and in particular with girls that do not know you at crowded times with unfavourable F / M ratios. My general advice continue to be having your guard up and staying selective in your pickings.
That being said, Oase is great right now. Relaxed. Plenty of couch time. One bad session was replaced by ten decent to excellent sessions. Great line-up with a good mix of new and familiar faces. Good times!
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2132076]In my experience there has not been an instance of covered blow job at Oase and even public blow jobs continue at Oase. I do not even have to ask or negotiate, it just happens. DFK as well. The girls all DFK too.
I find the girls give a fair amount of couch time, are well relaxed compared to Sharks girls and at night when the Manele and Turkish music comes on there is an amazing atmosphere that you never get at Sharks. The girls just hang out with you and do not ask for a room. They just enjoy your company and maybe get a massage from you. I get a fair amount of nude women wanting attention and its all cool.
I cite the Ortos defense that I will not name the girls since to do so will put in jeopardy any girl that performs this beloved BBBJ service for her customers.
Another regular that I know that attends Oase had a contrasting experience. He is a local man. So not a foreigner from the promised lands. He has been banging a tute at Oase for years and so is well known to her. Then last days he goes to Oase and he books his favorite tute. In the room they go about the business, then it comes to the blowjob where the tute pulls a condom from her purse and proceeds to place the condom on his stiff cock. The question goes, hey, its not correct to have a covered blowjob. We know each other for long time. The tute explains that the club and the law is that the sex including the blowjob must be covered with a johnny and there is no exceptions. The local man is upset but he is committed to the room. He want that this story is told so that there is balance to the experiences of others.
It is not all blowjob no condom for everyone.[/QUOTE]A bit surprising knowing that the girls are asked by the staff to do BBBJ like in Shark in order not to lose customers.
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Oase is gaining momentum
[QUOTE=Shark16;2132095] Man, I hope your luck continues. I can only wish that it was my experience. [/QUOTE]Me too.
[QUOTE=Shark16;2132095]That being said, Oase is great right now. Relaxed. Plenty of couch time. One bad session was replaced by ten decent to excellent sessions. Great line-up with a good mix of new and familiar faces. Good times! [/QUOTE]Exactly.
Oase will see more of my money in 2018.
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First, just to clarify: the Inna (or Ina) mentioned below is NOT, repeat not the long gone (natural) blonde sweet Latvian from a couple of years ago, but instead a slim, quite striking hook- nose Romanian girl whose been at Oase for about a year or so. She is bottle blonde and more cold and calculating than the great service oriented Latvian (who we shall probably never see again (like so many other memorable great ones of the past).
Thanks to Bitumem and Shark16 (prophetic name?) for their bang on comments about the current state of affairs at Oase. Yes, I agree largely with what you guys describe, esp Shark's comment about one or two bad surprises for sessions (with new / newish girls) are replaced with ten well above average experiences with both old or new girls. My experience at Oase this past week or so: 12 sessions, only two girls tried the cover on BJ, all other girls was business as normal (BBBJ) with no pre-discussing or anything. (I had similar results to Bitumen on the DFK front as well with almost all girls (but not all!) giving it freely and some quite genoursly behind zimmer door.).
As to the so-called "Ortos defense" (LOL) of not naming girls with the old-school service (you catch my drift): the flip side is to definitely specify the "Raincoat girls," the ones who insist on CBJ. I can only recall two instances where, when it came to blow job in the room, the girl insisted on cover:
Emma, a new very cute (and somewhat shy) petite Romanian girl.
Found in non-smoking lounge section (left side as you enter). But she was otherwise a good session with a sweet young cutie who did give all other aspects of service including kissing.
Via or Vera?: a new transient long dark hair with red streaks and some tattoos girl, who I found strikingly sexy, had to try her. I say "transient" because she's moving around different clubs, together with another Ro girl, both originally from Club Lancelot, she said. Very pretty and I found her quite submissive in room in a positive sense as she would fill your wishes for positions or anything else, except when it came to BJ and DFK. In her defense, she made this clear before we went to room, so I knew the landscape going in, but still decided to go with her because of her extreme sex appeal and her great looks. I had an above average experience (I started with 30 mins, but elected to extend to 60 mins). So I was glad I'm the end to have sampled her, esp as I suspect she's not going to last long at Oase and will be gone soon, if indeed not already. I saw. Her last Saturday night, and she with friend sat by themselves most of the time in back couches of what used to be Kino (I refuse to call it that anymore! She didn't seem to be getting too much business despite he looks. Really I don't know if she's still working at 0 ase.
But generally I find things looking good at Oase, at least at the start of 2018. Comparing Sharks to Oase: I find both clubs have good to great line ups right now (line up strength will fluctuate and depend on the day of the week to some extent), but I've been more happy at Oase this past week, which is a complete reversal from what has normally been the case over the past year or more. Why? A lot of had to do with the girl attitudes, accessibility to desired targets, less men to compete with (Sharks can get just too overwhelming and crowded on certain nights vs Oase these days, I find). I think Bitumem describes very well the general situation and atmospherics in his post below.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2132211]First, just to clarify: the Inna (or Ina) mentioned below is NOT, repeat not the long gone (natural) blonde sweet Latvian from a couple of years ago, but instead a slim, quite striking hook- nose Romanian girl whose been at Oase for about a year or so. She is bottle blonde and more cold and calculating than the great service oriented Latvian (who we shall probably never see again (like so many other memorable great ones of the past).
Thanks to Bitumem and Shark16 (prophetic name?) for their bang on comments about the current state of affairs at Oase. Yes, I agree largely with what you guys describe, esp Shark's comment about one or two bad surprises for sessions (with new / newish girls) are replaced with ten well above average experiences with both old or new girls. My experience at Oase this past week or so: 12 sessions, only two girls tried the cover on BJ, all other girls was business as normal (BBBJ) with no pre-discussing or anything. (I had similar results to Bitumen on the DFK front as well with almost all girls (but not all!) giving it freely and some quite genoursly behind zimmer door.).
As to the so-called "Ortos defense" (LOL) of not naming girls with the old-school service (you catch my drift): the flip side is to definitely specify the "Raincoat girls," the ones who insist on CBJ. I can only recall two instances where, when it came to blow job in the room, the girl insisted on cover:
Emma, a new very cute (and somewhat shy) petite Romanian girl.
Found in non-smoking lounge section (left side as you enter). But she was otherwise a good session with a sweet young cutie who did give all other aspects of service including kissing..[/QUOTE]Can not completely confirm your report yes the LU is improving but mostly with experienced girls mostly trying to get more than 50 euros, yesterday Monday the LU was very thin and in the evening it was difficult to find any monger without migration background some of them full of negative testosterone and very low education, quite noisy. Around 10 PM ratio man to woman around 3 to 1.
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You both makes a good case for Oase. And this coming trip was the first trip in over 2 years where I had written Oase off my club list. Curse you guys, LOL. Now the choices gets even tougher.
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You guys sound so shill. LOL. This thread sounds like it's turning into a promotional thread.
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Thanks guys for sharing your positive experiences.
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Respecting others' opinions
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2132358]You guys sound so shill. LOL. This thread sounds like it's turning into a promotional thread.[/QUOTE]Then do not come.
You can read what others write and make your own decision. It's your money and your trip. You decide that.
You don't need to be impolite and knock what others write.
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Last Sunday-Monday at Oase.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2132359]Thanks guys for sharing your positive experiences.[/QUOTE]I am a big fan of Oase, but my last set of visits was disapointing, I guess many girls not back from vacation yet. I know when it's not too crowded the girls have to upsell more to get their money's worth.
Tanya: good looking blonde, and good skills in the room, except stops to upsell every few minutes. Big turn off. She did try to upsell for BBBJ instead of CBJ which I didn't agree. It's probably my fault for staying in the room, either way no repeat.
Maria: before getting in the room, she casually says "for one hour it's 500 euros". So I politely declined. I am pretty sure I can get a high calibre escort at my hotel for less than that.
Not sure why the club asks you every time when you enter "do you know the prices" if so many girls don't follow the club prices. Either way, maybe isolated incidents, but two sessions in two days you can guess the LU was not so good. Will see next time.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2132362]Then do not come.
You can read what others write and make your own decision. It's your money and your trip. You decide that.
You don't need to be impolite and knock what others write.[/QUOTE]Like "he who shall not be named", he attacks other people's informative reporting and then calls it "Fake News. " What do you expect?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2132092]About Madi ex History. Ch, impossible to miss her big tattoo between silicon tits. She was a great GF at History for 149 CHF for 45 mn for our 3 rooms on December 2016, I left the room after 15 mn at Oase, refusing to pay 50 extra for kissing. Kissing is the way I judge how girls like me, from how they kiss me, some are passionate, so, if I have to pay extra, then girl doesn't interest me.[/QUOTE]Tattoo is a bit below, between her silicon tits. She was dark blond, model body.
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[QUOTE=Leduq;2132368]I am a big fan of Oase, but my last set of visits was disapointing, I guess many girls not back from vacation yet. I know when it's not too crowded the girls have to upsell more to get their money's worth.
Tanya: good looking blonde, and good skills in the room, except stops to upsell every few minutes. Big turn off. She did try to upsell for BBBJ instead of CBJ which I didn't agree. It's probably my fault for staying in the room, either way no repeat.
Maria: before getting in the room, she casually says "for one hour it's 500 euros". So I politely declined. I am pretty sure I can get a high calibre escort at my hotel for less than that.
Not sure why the club asks you every time when you enter "do you know the prices" if so many girls don't follow the club prices. Either way, maybe isolated incidents, but two sessions in two days you can guess the LU was not so good. Will see next time.[/QUOTE]I need to confirm what you state, yes the LU is quite good optically but I tried in the last days some new girls and need to admit that service and up sell were always there, impossible for me to get any GFE even for 1 hour room, also even the girls are looking sexy most of them have a weak body because they are mother or just around 30 or more years old, or doing 0 sport. Overall the LU is not fresh enough for my taste under unfortunately there was not 1 new sexy girl there even in my 6 last visits. Most of the girls have many years in the P6 and are really lacking on sensibility, too pro, too mechanical fuck me and pay me a lot. Spoke today with some senior German mongers they are exactly on line with me and advice me to visit FKK ROM, it seems service is far better there and not so much upsell.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2131823]A few names of the among 110- 130 girls observed lately:
Adina.
Alexa (model mit brille).
Alexa (Ro / Thai).
Alice / Alyss1 (young, slim, pretty eyes / face).
Alice / Alyss2.
Aliona.
Amanda.
Amira.
Amy.
Ariana.
[/QUOTE]Add Alina (with red hair) to the list unless she's actually one of the others.
No Asians around when I was there. Are they victims of registration requirements?
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2132489]Add Alina (with red hair) to the list unless she's actually one of the others.
No Asians around when I was there. Are they victims of registration requirements?[/QUOTE]Probably they don t want to register knowing that the risk exist for the future if you find a normal job that your employer could access to some information about your previous status as prostitute. The Asian girls want to protect from this, the Romanian girls don t care just because only few of them will ever get a normal job in Germany, most of them are prostitutes for many years and don't want and can t get a normal job. At Oase recently only a young girl from Jamaica, not attractive at all, with a very unhealthy skin, I will never be able to go in the room with her. Also the Asian girl is no more at world. In the clubs since beginning of January only veteran German girls and the crowd of Romanian girls with poor to average service level. Shark still 3 black women including yesterday a top model one.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2132489]No Asians around when I was there. Are they victims of registration requirements?[/QUOTE]Are you sure?
I did not think EU are stopping Asians coming to Germany. If EU did then I am sure a few of the FKK clubs will go out of business for lack of customers particularly Oase.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2132457]Like "he who shall not be named", he attacks other people's informative reporting and then calls it "Fake News. " What do you expect?[/QUOTE]I expect nothing more from a bad mannered person such as he.
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I was suggesting the Asian girls were the ones that decided that it's time to call it a day when they need to register. Presumably they are German residents.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2132500]Are you sure?
I did not think EU are stopping Asians coming to Germany. If EU did then I am sure a few of the FKK clubs will go out of business for lack of customers particularly Oase.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2132500]Are you sure?
I did not think EU are stopping Asians coming to Germany. If EU did then I am sure a few of the FKK clubs will go out of business for lack of customers particularly Oase.[/QUOTE]Asians have to comply with EU work regulations to be able to work here. Nothing changed in the last 10 years.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2132358]You guys sound so shill. LOL. This thread sounds like it's turning into a promotional thread.[/QUOTE]Actually I disagree. The FKK threads are the most informative in all of ISG and Oase is no different.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2132078]
I would like to add Adele to your list.
[/QUOTE]Thanks Shark16 for the list. Not sure which day you were there but I don't think there were 110-130 when I visited (Ortos can confirm since he was also there).
Yes, Adele is back for maybe 2 weeks now (currently out with some dude).
I would also add Antonia (back two weeks now), Mira, Sugi, and Anna just got back yesterday.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2132857]Thanks Shark16 for the list. Not sure which day you were there but I don't think there were 110-130 when I visited (Ortos can confirm since he was also there).[/QUOTE]You're welcome. Neither were there 110- 130 girls on any day I visited (I did not say that), but if you add up you'll get there. I was there several days. Every day is a little bit different with new girls in attendance that adds up.
Generally speaking I don't think we should expect more than 50- 70 girls on any weekday or 70- 100 girls on the weekends. And that is at peak times. Holiday season may see less; some exhibiton days may see more.
There are definitively more girls I cannot name (60- 80) than girls I was able to list (50).
I may mix Mira with Amira. Sugi can possibly be my "Donna #1"?
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Is Sugi, long time Suginella who was pretty in 2014/2015, but put big fat on ass later? She was friend with white skin Roxana, when they were fresh and pretty. Both could be good in bed.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2132918]I may mix Mira with Amira. Sugi can possibly be my "Donna #1"?[/QUOTE]Don't know if it is the same girl. But I just know an Amina. She has a tattoo saying 'Deniz'.
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Vera
Ortos,
I also have experience of Vera.
The deal is 50 is suck and fuck basic, once you come out you go.
If you want kiss with suck and fuck then that is one hour and total cost is 150.
Firm body, light up turned nose, adequate looks, black hair.
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Siri, yes, that same Suginella. I also found her attractive back then but I have never been with her.
Shark16, we maybe talking about different Mira. The one I am referring to is short Romanian. She hangs out with Adele and Carla (they are actually living together).
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There was also a blonde Mira at about 165-168. Claimed to be Ukrainian and had been to Sakura. Very pretty. She was booked all night when I saw her, so I didn't get to make a better inspection however.
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Nika.
Has anybody seen Nika lately? The German one with tattoo saying abdel.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2133040]Has anybody seen Nika lately? The German one with tattoo saying abdel.[/QUOTE]Not see her the last weeks, possible that she will be there from tomorrow it seems that there is a big fair starting and some girls even came from Samya.
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Friday 25 January.
Spent my whole day at oase (still there), thanks to free internet can report. Great LU due to the fair most probably, tried new girls but what a upselling never saw that in all my FKK career. Despite many efforts it was impossible to session a nice girl for 50 euros, only the less attractive accepted it. All the girls are asking 100 euros for 30 minutes. Some new girls coming from Samya for the fair. The management has to regain the control of the girls and not to let them refusing Cústomers for a basic 50 euros session.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2132999]Shark16, we maybe talking about different Mira. The one I am referring to is short Romanian. She hangs out with Adele and Carla (they are actually living together).[/QUOTE]No. My bad. This short blackhaired girl is exactly the girl I am talking about. My apoligies to Mira for spelling her name incorrectly.
Pistons,
Sorry, I do not know your blond Mira.
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Ada sighting?
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2104754]Nice report Be Wilder. I also find Beatrice very attractive. Not sure why she is not too busy. I was in Oase a few Sundays ago. It was a buyer market. Even Lara / Laura was not so busy. I had sessions with:
[B]Anna[/B] - small ROM, dark hair, beautiful brown eyes, perky A / be, I find her attractive but for some reason she said Asian doesn't go with her. Weird, as I thought she would fit the profile. I hit it off really well with her and if my regular at Oase is not careful, she will leap over them.
[B]Lara/Laura[/B] - I have been with her before and the session was good. Normally our timing does not always line up but this time she was freely available, all night. Had a passionate session with her.
[B]Ada[/B] - ROM, somewhat tall, very fit, skinny body, A cup. It's funny, Lara actually dragged her to come talk to me and introduced her to me. Had a nice time with her.
I wanted to take [B]Vicky[/B] and promised her I would take her before she leaves, which is normally around 10 pm. But I was with [B]Anna[/B] from 7-9 pm. By the time I was out, I didn't see her until around 9:45 pm where she was in street clothes leaving the club..[/QUOTE]I'm planning a trip during the middle of February. Anyone seen Ada lately?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2132986]Ortos,
I also have experience of Vera.
The deal is 50 is suck and fuck basic, once you come out you go.
If you want kiss with suck and fuck then that is one hour and total cost is 150.
Firm body, light up turned nose, adequate looks, black hair.[/QUOTE]We should not accept to pay for kissing in a 1 hour session, prices are going sharply up since the new law and service is going down, we senior monger should be strict on that front, the only extra to be paid is anal and CIM all the rest have to be included.
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Visit
After almost 2 years I was again a few days in the neighbourhood and so it was time again to visit this club. I have never been before on a Friday and am not completely convinced this is the best night to go. Sure there is more choice of girls on a night like this, but the overkill on men is ruining the view I also noticed since last time, way more man are walking around with their cellphone which is not a good sign and especially in the relaxing room it is very annoying. But on the other hand the whirpool is still warm and the sauna was very good and very hot, so there is still some good spots to relax in this club.
I have spend in total about 3,5 hours in the club and had 2 times fun with a lady on a room. First punt was with an Italian girl from Milan from whom I forgot the name. Not a very special punt, but effective to release some first pressure.
After some more relaxing I went back into the bar and after declining some woman I met with Jenny.
Jenny is a small spicy bulgarian woman*who got me very quickly interested and in the mood. We ended up on a sofa in the Kino and had a little talk and play. She is very clear in her options and does not like upselling which is def a pre.
Her options were pretty straight forward: €50,- half an hour standard, €100 half an hour with everything you can imagine.
Not a hard choice so I choosed the latter.
Jenny is a real porno animal and likes sloppy DFK and lots of position changes and options. She let you do all you want to her and the best moment was while pounding her nice ass in doggy having a finger up in her ass and the other one pulling her hair.
She told me from the beginning CIM was an option and this felt like the best way to end a session like this. She really drained me and I needed a few moments to gain energy again afterwards. The only downside for finishing this way, is that she turns around and starts spitting and gagging into the bin, which is a bit of a mood killer. But overall a very satisfying punt.
After this last punt I left the club around 1 am.
It is still an expensive club, and it takes some effort to work your way around all the girls, but if you dare to say no a few times it is mostly possible to find a good punt every time.
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Jenni, Bul
[QUOTE=Marco81;2134222]Her options were pretty straight forward: 50,- half an hour standard, 100 half an hour with everything you can imagine.[/QUOTE]Of the 11 sessions I had in Oase in January she was the absolute worst of them all. It must have been three years and 100+ sessions since I had such a bad experience at Oase!! Jenni is a notorious upseller. I guess it just shows how different we as gents are. :)
My experience:
50 E: She refuses DFK and DATY. Only CBJ/CFS.
100 E /60: She allows DFK, but refuses DATY, lacks enthusiasm, and her upselling for DATY/CIM is annoying.
100 E /30 or 150 E /60: Now she is all smiles and promise DFK / DATY / BJ / CIM / fingering "everywhere" (reminds me of my last Palace visit when I left unpopped, except CIM would have been another 50E extra at Palace of course). Of course no anal. I did not partake in this "offer".
Seriously, I am not sure why I went with her. Normally I don't go with girls that overweight. But I must admit she has a certain sexiness walking around.
I will NOT repeat. Ever.
p.s. Jenni must not be confused with Janey, Bul (Angus' "great find" from way back), who is still around.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2134230]O I guess it just shows how different we as gents are. [/QUOTE]Haha yes luckily we are, so that there is almost always an option for everybody.
Probably you are partly right that she just wants to have at least €100 for 30 minutes to be happy and it is a form of upselling, but I like that it is clear from the beginning, I hate upselling in the room. The first girl I asked 2 times before if she kisses on the room, she says yes, and then on the room she says no. Only for 50 eur extra for just kissing.
Jenni did offer me also anal for the 100 eur 30 min package. Maybe my dick was the right size for her.
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[QUOTE=Marco81;2134239] but I like that it is clear from the beginning, I hate upselling in the room.[/QUOTE]IME she is NOT very clear before going to the room and is notoriosly upselling in the room unless you go for her 100 E /30 "offer". Oh man, she was awful.
But if she takes 30 mnts straight anal pounding for that price, I may reconsider. LOL.
Seriously, you could have done A LOT better at Oase.
Thanks for the discussion. This thread desperately needs more girl reviews.
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[QUOTE=Marco81;2134239]Haha yes luckily we are, so that there is almost always an option for everybody.
Probably you are partly right that she just wants to have at least 100 for 30 minutes to be happy and it is a form of upselling, but I like that it is clear from the beginning, I hate upselling in the room. The first girl I asked 2 times before if she kisses on the room, she says yes, and then on the room she says no. Only for 50 eur extra for just kissing.
Jenni did offer me also anal for the 100 eur 30 min package. Maybe my dick was the right size for her.[/QUOTE]Oase management is unable to get any kind of control of the price policy implemented by the veteran prostitutes from Roumania, this week there are several fairs in frankfurt therefor absolutely not the right time to get a good balance between price and service. Oase is very close to become the new palace, expensive, unrespectful behavior from numerous girls and Oase is mostly targeting visitors from abroad mostly asian one.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2132999]
Shark16, we maybe talking about different Mira. The one I am referring to is short Romanian. She hangs out with Adele and Carla (they are actually living together).[/QUOTE]Could you maybe describe what Carla looks like? I remember a Carla in Oase and she was one of my top sessions in Germany ever and one of the most beautiful girls ever, although, she is a bit short.
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Carla
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2134466]Could you maybe describe what Carla looks like? I remember a Carla in Oase and she was one of my top sessions in Germany ever and one of the most beautiful girls ever, although, she is a bit short.[/QUOTE]It was a time when there were three Carlas at Oase. Only one left now, and that's the most beautiful one IMO. A clear optical highlight at Oase. Also a decent session IME (in a 60 mnts booking):
Early 20's, short, slim, long brown hair. Very beautiful face / eyes. Her most remarkable feature is her amazingly pointy B/C-cups. Fun personality. Good smile. Always cheering up the other girls.
She's been around 3- 4 years at Oase, I think. Last observation this very month.
(Ericarla, known for superb service, is out of business AFAIK. Carla the tits (with average service if I am nice) went to Palace a couple of years ago and I dont know her whereabouts right now).
p.s. Thanks a lot for your contribution in the Vienna thread. Very helpful and much appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2134242]This thread desperately needs more girl reviews.[/QUOTE]Hang on. I have a report on the way.
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Vera ro
[QUOTE=Shark16;2134230] My experience:
50 E: She refuses DFK and DATY. Only CBJ/CFS.
100 E /60: She allows DFK, but refuses DATY, lacks enthusiasm, and her upselling for DATY/CIM is annoying.
100 E /30 or 150 E /60: Now she is all smiles and promise DFK / DATY / BJ / CIM / fingering "everywhere" (reminds me of my last Palace visit when I left unpopped, except CIM would have been another 50E extra at Palace of course). Of course no anal. I did not partake in this "offer".[/QUOTE][B]Sharks16[/B],
Your experiences with Jenni from Bulgaria is similar to mine of Vera from Romania to whom also [B]Ortos[/B] has had experience of.
Half hour for 50 euro session is frowned upon. You will be the most basic of services which may be CBK and CFS.
In a half hour session you need to pay 100 euros for DFK and for more happiness then its 150 euro for a 1 hour session.
Vera does look good with an upturned nose and dark hair, firm young body and perky breasts. There was no sale from my perspective. We still stay in contact.
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Friday
I am driving to Oase. I am thinking that there is WiFi there. I don't know why fully why Wifi is a draw for a club but it is.
I arrived at [B]FKK Oase[/B] late on Friday night. The car park was semi full and I managed to find a car park on the upper level and not at the car park near the Oase building entrance. There was an electric feeling in the air for me. You could see the lit up Roman style statutes, the back lit signs of scantily clad women with FKK Oase logos.
My entrance fee to Oase was paid by prepaid card which works out at 46.67 euro per entry regardless of time of entry. Still beats the 50 euro entry before 4 pm Oase entry deal by 3. 33 euros which is a saving of 6.67% on the 50 euro and 23.33 euro (33.3%) saving on the normal 70 euros entrance. Compare this to the 950 euros for 20 entries deal at Sharks where it is 17.50 euros (26.9%) discount on the 65 euros normal entry.
Upon entering Oase I see what for me is a fucking amazing line up. I am here to see my German friends who say that when there is the overlap between the day time and night time shift there is over 100 girls here. Many day time girls start to leave just before 10 pm though.
Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays in Hessen FKK clubs can be really busy. Girls get booked up and become unavailable. Many girls may work midweek but skip the Thursday as a free day since they are saving their energy for the weekend from Friday to Sunday. This is where some ISG members coin the term shit Thursdays in the clubs.
So there will be competition for the girls now as its Friday.
I tell my friend who is at Sharks that he has to come to Oase. He says he may come to Oase later on another day. He is content at Sharks.
The Oase Girls are freely giving couch time. There are a lot of girls. Blondes, Brunettes, and a few red heads. There is enough for everyone.
I am hungry. I said to my friend all his talk of Doner Kebap has made me hungry.
I want a Doner Kebap from my favorite busy downtown RLD Doner Kebap shop. I have been on a vegetable diet the last few days with a tiny amount of meat. All I ate today is vegetables (fresh cucumber, sauerkraut cabbage, pickled cauliflower, peppers and celery) and 3 chocolate biscuits. Not the best diet for a monger. My mind though is set. It is pussy first and Doner Kebap for later.
After changing and showering I go into the lounge area and I meet my German friends. They are using their phones in the Kino area since phone use is allowed since everyone seems to be using their phone. So I get my phone to check up on things.
The DJ is right behind us and is taking requests from the Turkish and French boys from the suburbs of Paris. There are bottles of alcohol for all the Turkish and young suburban Paris French.
I am having a good time at Oase. My German group of friends are looking after me and giving me their insight into the line-up on which girls are up-sellers and which girls are good feed-back and which girls are so so for service. The Germans are like a piece of the furniture as they are in the clubs several times a week. The girls give them hours and hours of free couch time with no expectation of going to the room.
The ever popular [B]Carla[/B] is booked all night by a corporate looking late middle aged American. But still she ran over to me to kiss me and say Hello, and talk to me for a bit.
Roaming among the girls making greetings I am coping so many free feels and couch time with girls. Being at Oase reminds me what this is all about. It is about fun and interesting times with naked girls.
I am freer in my mind now after the day at work earlier.
Fuck.
So I am ready to pounce.
I am seeing Blondes everywhere: slim ones, cute ones and average sized ones.
So I see [B]Adele[/B]. She blows me an air kiss. Then goes to a fucking another man!
I see my target girl. I like her and she remembers a lot about me. Fuck. I make eye contact with her and as she walks in my direction then a man from across the lounge comes running up to nab her intercepting her before she gets near me. She goes with him to give the man extended couch time in the non-smoking couch area where the Asians have set up their court. It is what she does couch time. She is relaxed as it leads to business.
While I am frustrated sitting on a couch, a pretty slim girl with dirty blonde hair lies on me and she lets me fondle her for 20 minutes and then at the end gives me a kiss and says thank you for relaxing her saying I am the man with the magic touch. Last time I had naked girls in a line on the couch where I had to straddle their bare naked asses with my cock out resting on them giving massages. Guys were giving me the thumbs up for getting my cock on girls' asses and being able to pull their ass cheeks apart to see their pussy and assholes in all their glory.
I go see a blonde that looks like cute blonde [B]Cosmina[/B] who used to work at [B]FKK Sharks[/B]. Fuck. She rushes pass me since she only has eyes for old Turks. There is a whole couch of old Turkish men are taking turns fucking her.
Cool atmosphere. There is even a German guy has bought a drum kit into the club and is drumming with sticks on his kit as all the girls are dancing around him. It is party town. I mean this guy has a drum kit with stand with several drum panels. He has drumming gloves and has his robe sleeves rolled up. He is adding to the party atmosphere with the girls raising their hands in the air.
I see some of the men that shower cash on the girls who dance for them. These guys can dump between 100 to 1,000 euros on Oase girls to dance for them. It is cool to see. This show and the focus is about the man and not the girls. The eyes of both men and girls are on what the man is doing and there is so much interest in these men afterwards and for their subsequent visits. The girls continue to talk about the men who shower cash on the girls for dancing. They discuss their likes and dislikes. It is good to hear what the girls think.
As an alternative and it is not the same thing, is this 60 year old German man who is able to drum and you have the whole floor up dancing and the girls giving him attention since he is livening the party and having the time of his life. These are just two different ways of getting noticed by the girls.
My German friends are just smoking and smoking. Smoking is cheap in Germany.
I am bored.
I ate dinner in the Oase restaurant comprising of Fried fish, grilled lamb chops, cooked vegetables and chips.
Then since I am bored I order the special pizza from the bar man. The special pizza comprises of ham, salami, mushroom and onion. I don't need it. I am bored. I eat it all and even have a chips entre.
I eat when I am bored. Not good.
I need a girl bad to satisfy my hard on.
The Asians and Turks have all the girls. All the girls are going to these men ignoring the locals.
[B] Incognito [/B] is here too. A man has booked her for hours and gave her several yellow 200 euros notes in payment. I guess he did not have anything smaller like green 100 euro or orange 50 euro notes.
It is getting late so I say to myself, "Do what feels right. You want only half hours then do half hours. ".
For me I tend towards the one hour bookings as I like to do all sorts of sex acts with a girl. It makes the booking memorable.
I found out later on that the petite bob haired blonde [B]Cosmina[/B] look alike is called [B]Eileen[/B]. She was nice to me when I asked her, "What was name?" She let me fondle her and pat her bare ass. I complimented her on her cute ass. I think she liked that. She will have to wait for next time. There were Germans who took her this time and not Turks or Asians.
Then I see my target girl again. I had been eyeing up this blonde with long straight hair, but she can have her hair in a curly / fuzzy style. She looks better when her hair is straight but I guess this is effort on her part to straighten her hair. She has brown eyes, an average build, pale skin, no tattoos and breasts of be cup size.
I will call her [B]Unnamed[/B]. We went for 1 hour room with COB finish paid 150 euros.
Services:
DFK.
BBBJ with deep throat to the base amazing to feel her lips at the base of my cock.
BLS.
Fingering of vagina and anus holes allowed.
Nipple licking on me.
DATY to her orgasm.
All positions allowed including dead doggie with her flat on her stomach.
Allowed multiple tries to come in the time paid for and BBBJ episodes.
I could not come in a condom fucking with Unnamed. I had to wank myself on Unamed's ass and blasted all over her backside. Shit. My shot of come was like a puddle all over her ass which Peter North would be proud of. I got her digits. She has a fetish for certain types. I am back in monger mode. I still got it. I even got her pictures.
No names given for Unnamed due to the [B]Ortos[/B] defence here:
[QUOTE=Ortos;2129038]I agree, under normal conditions. And I've always provided names with my pre-July '17 posts. But now, naming names would point the finger (and you wouldnt want that, right?) at girls who are in violation of the German Bundes BBBJ Law because, and let it be known here far and wide: I am a huge fan of BBBJ and I don't enter Zimmer with girls who don't. Capisce, Paesano?
[/QUOTE]I cannot replicate the good work of [B]Sharks16[/B], but this is what I could cobble together of the girls that I saw were.
Adele ro.
Alexa ro,
Beatiful black haired girl that claims she is Russian but is really Romanian.
Carla ro,
Eileen ro,
Unnamed girl I fucked.
Incognito,
Red head, a little bigger, been at Oase a long time.
Vera ro,
After my room with Unnamed and showering it was 4:15 am.
Food was cleaned up by 4 am.
In the main room it was Manele music and it was a merry go round of gypsy dancing with men (including staff) and naked girls dancing in a big circle around the pole.
You never see this at Sharks. You only get this at Oase or World. There is more heart in Oase than mindless commercial oriented Sharks.
Girls ask me to dance with them in the merry go round circle dancing. That was a lovely gesture and so friendly of the girl. I like to dance but I was winded after my one hour fuck with Unnamed.
My German friends had already gone leaving text messages on my phone that they had vacated Oase for their downtown Frankfurt riverside apartments.
I went to find Unnamed and we speak. Unnamed was more interested in me than continuing to work. It was nearly closing time and all the girls were just hanging out for when they can leave the club.
I went home.
At reception they ask that I had to give my wrist band indicating payment of the entry fee back to them but I could I take an orange Oase branded baseball cap and an Oase branded black umbrella.
I could have taken as many hats and umbrellas as I wanted. I was thinking of my friends would want an item of each for them, but I was not sure they would use an Oase baseball cap or Oase umbrella when going into the office. I thought it would be nice to have a cap and umbrella from Oase to go with my other FKK branded items.
So I scored a lot of freebies from Oase for 46.67 euro entry.
When I drove out onto the road I saw that the customers before me had plundered Oase umbrellas and Oase caps and after driving for some kilometers had realised what was emblazoned on the caps and umbrellas and had dumped them unceremoniously in the BHH village along its road. There were orange Oase caps strewn all along the pavement where they had been tossed out the window. You do wonder what the locals think of an internationally famous brothel situated in their midst.
When I got home I sprayed my balls with the anti-fungal spray to protect me from the wicked claw and to keep the vampires from my door.
I then checked my phone to see that Unnamed had been writing me like mad. She wants to see me Saturday and gave me her timetable for the next weeks. She sent me pictures. I am quite taken by Unnamed and she with me.
Fuck!
I told her I was going to Sharks. I am a loser.
The End.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2134474][B]Sharks16[/B]
Vera does look good with an upturned nose and dark hair, firm young body and perky breasts. There was no sale from my perspective. We still stay in contact.[/QUOTE]She did look better as a blonde though.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2134475]Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays in Hessen FKK clubs can be really busy. Girls get booked up and become unavailable. Many girls may work midweek but skip the Thursday as a free day since they are saving their energy for the weekend from Friday to Sunday. This is where some ISG members coin the term shit Thursdays in the clubs.[/QUOTE]Thursdays used to be fine at Oase in the past. It was just shot at sharks due to the cheapskate Wednesday there being busy. I hope it hasn't deteriorated at Oase compared to the other days, as it really used to at least work out well to go to Oase on a Thursday. Makes me wonder if this is related to my semiocre Oase visits the past 8 months. They were Thursday visits.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2134475]I am driving to Oase. I am thinking that there is WiFi there. I don't know why fully why Wifi is a draw for a club but it is.
I arrived at [B]FKK Oase[/B] late on Friday night. The car park was semi full and I managed to find a car park on the upper level and not at the car park near the Oase building entrance. There was an electric feeling in the air for me. You could see the lit up Roman style statutes, the back lit signs of scantily clad women with FKK Oase logos.
My entrance fee to Oase was paid by prepaid card which works out at 46.67 euro per entry regardless of time of entry. Still beats the 50 euro entry before 4 pm Oase entry deal by 3. 33 euros which is a saving of 6.67% on the 50 euro and 23.33 euro (33.3%) saving on the normal 70 euros entrance. Compare this to the 950 euros for 20 entries deal at Sharks where it is 17.50 euros (26.9%) discount on the 65 euros normal entry.
Upon entering Oase I see what for me is a fucking amazing line up. I am here to see my German friends who say that when there is the overlap between the day time and night time shift there is over 100 girls here. Many day time girls start to leave just before 10 pm though.
Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays in Hessen FKK clubs can be really busy. Girls get booked up and become unavailable. Many girls may work midweek but skip the Thursday as a free day since they are saving their energy for the weekend from Friday to Sunday. This is where some ISG members coin the term shit Thursdays in the clubs.
So there will be competition for the girls now as its Friday.
I tell my friend who is at Sharks that he has to come to Oase. He says he may come to Oase later on another day. He is content at Sharks.
The Oase Girls are freely giving couch time. There are a lot of girls. Blondes, Brunettes, and a few red heads. There is enough for everyone.
I am hungry. I said to my friend all his talk of Doner Kebap has made me hungry.
I want a Doner Kebap from my favorite busy downtown RLD Doner Kebap shop. I have been on a vegetable diet the last few days with a tiny amount of meat. All I ate today is vegetables (fresh cucumber, sauerkraut cabbage, pickled cauliflower, peppers and celery) and 3 chocolate biscuits. Not the best diet for a monger. My mind though is set. It is pussy first and Doner Kebap for later.
After changing and showering I go into the lounge area and I meet my German friends. They are using their phones in the Kino area since phone use is allowed since everyone seems to be using their phone. So I get my phone to check up on things.
The DJ is right behind us and is taking requests from the Turkish and French boys from the suburbs of Paris. There are bottles of alcohol for all the Turkish and young suburban Paris French.
I am having a good time at Oase. My German group of friends are looking after me and giving me their insight into the line-up on which girls are up-sellers and which girls are good feed-back and which girls are so so for service. The Germans are like a piece of the furniture as they are in the clubs several times a week. The girls give them hours and hours of free couch time with no expectation of going to the room.
The ever popular [B]Carla[/B] is booked all night by a corporate looking late middle aged American. But still she ran over to me to kiss me and say Hello, and talk to me for a bit.
Roaming among the girls making greetings I am coping so many free feels and couch time with girls. Being at Oase reminds me what this is all about. It is about fun and interesting times with naked girls.
I am freer in my mind now after the day at work earlier.
Fuck.
So I am ready to pounce.
I am seeing Blondes everywhere: slim ones, cute ones and average sized ones.
So I see [B]Adele[/B]. She blows me an air kiss. Then goes to a fucking another man!
I see my target girl. I like her and she remembers a lot about me. Fuck. I make eye contact with her and as she walks in my direction then a man from across the lounge comes running up to nab her intercepting her before she gets near me. She goes with him to give the man extended couch time in the non-smoking couch area where the Asians have set up their court. It is what she does couch time. She is relaxed as it leads to business.
While I am frustrated sitting on a couch, a pretty slim girl with dirty blonde hair lies on me and she lets me fondle her for 20 minutes and then at the end gives me a kiss and says thank you for relaxing her saying I am the man with the magic touch. Last time I had naked girls in a line on the couch where I had to straddle their bare naked asses with my cock out resting on them giving massages. Guys were giving me the thumbs up for getting my cock on girls' asses and being able to pull their ass cheeks apart to see their pussy and assholes in all their glory.
I go see a blonde that looks like cute blonde [B]Cosmina[/B] who used to work at [B]FKK Sharks[/B]. Fuck. She rushes pass me since she only has eyes for old Turks. There is a whole couch of old Turkish men are taking turns fucking her.
Cool atmosphere. There is even a German guy has bought a drum kit into the club and is drumming with sticks on his kit as all the girls are dancing around him. It is party town. I mean this guy has a drum kit with stand with several drum panels. He has drumming gloves and has his robe sleeves rolled up. He is adding to the party atmosphere with the girls raising their hands in the air.
I see some of the men that shower cash on the girls who dance for them. These guys can dump between 100 to 1,000 euros on Oase girls to dance for them. It is cool to see. This show and the focus is about the man and not the girls. The eyes of both men and girls are on what the man is doing and there is so much interest in these men afterwards and for their subsequent visits. The girls continue to talk about the men who shower cash on the girls for dancing. They discuss their likes and dislikes. It is good to hear what the girls think.
As an alternative and it is not the same thing, is this 60 year old German man who is able to drum and you have the whole floor up dancing and the girls giving him attention since he is livening the party and having the time of his life. These are just two different ways of getting noticed by the girls.
My German friends are just smoking and smoking. Smoking is cheap in Germany.
I am bored.
I ate dinner in the Oase restaurant comprising of Fried fish, grilled lamb chops, cooked vegetables and chips.
Then since I am bored I order the special pizza from the bar man. The special pizza comprises of ham, salami, mushroom and onion. I don't need it. I am bored. I eat it all and even have a chips entre.
I eat when I am bored. Not good.
I need a girl bad to satisfy my hard on.
The Asians and Turks have all the girls. All the girls are going to these men ignoring the locals.
[B] Incognito [/B] is here too. A man has booked her for hours and gave her several yellow 200 euros notes in payment. I guess he did not have anything smaller like green 100 euro or orange 50 euro notes.
It is getting late so I say to myself, "Do what feels right. You want only half hours then do half hours. ".
For me I tend towards the one hour bookings as I like to do all sorts of sex acts with a girl. It makes the booking memorable.
I found out later on that the petite bob haired blonde [B]Cosmina[/B] look alike is called [B]Eileen[/B]. She was nice to me when I asked her, "What was name?" She let me fondle her and pat her bare ass. I complimented her on her cute ass. I think she liked that. She will have to wait for next time. There were Germans who took her this time and not Turks or Asians.
Then I see my target girl again. I had been eyeing up this blonde with long straight hair, but she can have her hair in a curly / fuzzy style. She looks better when her hair is straight but I guess this is effort on her part to straighten her hair. She has brown eyes, an average build, pale skin, no tattoos and breasts of be cup size.
I will call her [B]Unnamed[/B]. We went for 1 hour room with COB finish paid 150 euros.
Services:
DFK.
BBBJ with deep throat to the base amazing to feel her lips at the base of my cock.
BLS.
Fingering of vagina and anus holes allowed.
Nipple licking on me.
DATY to her orgasm.
All positions allowed including dead doggie with her flat on her stomach.
Allowed multiple tries to come in the time paid for and BBBJ episodes.
I could not come in a condom fucking with Unnamed. I had to wank myself on Unamed's ass and blasted all over her backside. Shit. My shot of come was like a puddle all over her ass which Peter North would be proud of. I got her digits. She has a fetish for certain types. I am back in monger mode. I still got it. I even got her pictures.
No names given for Unnamed due to the [B]Ortos[/B] defence here:
I cannot replicate the good work of [B]Sharks16[/B], but this is what I could cobble together of the girls that I saw were.
Adele ro.
Alexa ro,
Beatiful black haired girl that claims she is Russian but is really Romanian.
Carla ro,
Eileen ro,
Unnamed girl I fucked.
Incognito,
Red head, a little bigger, been at Oase a long time.
Vera ro,
After my room with Unnamed and showering it was 4:15 am.
Food was cleaned up by 4 am.
In the main room it was Manele music and it was a merry go round of gypsy dancing with men (including staff) and naked girls dancing in a big circle around the pole.
You never see this at Sharks. You only get this at Oase or World. There is more heart in Oase than mindless commercial oriented Sharks.
Girls ask me to dance with them in the merry go round circle dancing. That was a lovely gesture and so friendly of the girl. I like to dance but I was winded after my one hour fuck with Unnamed..[/QUOTE]Great report but confirming that so many guys are spending huge amount of cash to the girls that I am afraid that those girls are not at all interested in 50 euros session, but I don't care I like sex but I can easily leave any FKK without a session. Mixing party, alcohol and sex is not at all my cup of tea, I like having the head clean and enjoying my time in the room, obviously the girls like when the guys are drunk and spending a lot for no sex. I don't care to have time on the couch, listen all those stupid and cheated things from the girls, none of them will never tell the truth, they just sit with us because the management told them to have social time with the mongers.
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At Bitumen
Thanks to Bitumenfor a great and very detailed write-up. Interesting how different people see the the same thing in a different way. For example, I personally had a negative reaction to the man with strange percussion set-up. To me, and several girls I spoke with seen to agree very strongly, he was some weirdo-nutcase who made the most obnoxious cacaphony that made it quite unpleasant to sit anywhere near the dance podium. But fair enough if others liked it, but it was really torture for some of us. One girl explained to me he was "a friend of the Boss" and has permission to do this whenever he visits the club.
In your wonderful post, you quote one of my own prior posts from a few weeks ago and call it "the Ortos defense," etc. I just want to clarify that what you quoted was a specific response to another member who was asking why I did not provide girls names in my post about having lots of "old school service" at Oase, and so you quoted me slightly out of context, but I couldn't tell whether you agree with it or if you are poking fun /"taking the Mick" at me and my approach.
Therefore, I wish to stress that it is simply my own personal view, perhaps shared here by some other members, which seems logical to me. But I respect that others might disagree with me and have there own approach to writing posts. In other words I don't want "to own" this defense, I just see it as a logical result to what might be happening more widely.
But thanks again for your great post.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2134474][B]Sharks16[/B],
Your experiences with Jenni from Bulgaria is similar to mine of Vera from Romania to whom also [B]Ortos[/B] has had experience of.
Half hour for 50 euro session is frowned upon. You will be the most basic of services which may be CBK and CFS.
In a half hour session you need to pay 100 euros for DFK and for more happiness then its 150 euro for a 1 hour session.
Vera does look good with an upturned nose and dark hair, firm young body and perky breasts. There was no sale from my perspective. We still stay in contact.[/QUOTE]This is exactly the my main concern 150 euros for 1 hour it is the price I am paying for a 1 hour session with a german student not a prostitute from roumania, a girl who is very happy to meet a man like me, giving me great service impossible to find with a pro of course, and also very interesting to speak with. I am switching more and more to KM just because 150 for a hour in a FKK is too much, never forget that most of the girls are veteran being prostitutes for many years and be sessioned 10000 or 30000 times, impossible for them to compete with german students having 2 or 3 customers a week and other activities that to seat hour and hours in a FKK smoking cigarette after cigarette. Those are not worth 150 for me at least. This is only valid for guys like me looking for GFE.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2134230]Of the 11 sessions I had in Oase in January she was the absolute worst of them all. It must have been three years and 100+ sessions since I had such a bad experience at Oase!! Jenni is a notorious upseller. I guess it just shows how different we as gents are. :)
My experience:
50 E: She refuses DFK and DATY. Only CBJ/CFS..[/QUOTE]Is it the new game at Oase? To improve arithmetic in room rather than enjoying real women who are so rare at Oase. With my little experience in FKK land, girls who behave like real women, usually don't upsell for kissing, DATY, fingers when done with manners, BJ, because it is just normal sex for them, on the other hand, little girls upsell because they don't like kissing, nor losing control on DATY, because pimp ask not to cum. I remember blond Lexi when she started on January 2015, how she lost control on DATY, she was really lost after, for sex.
100/30 mn and 150 for 1 h, is new GFE Oase rate? What Mady who was so great GFE at History Basel Liestal, asked me, so I preferred to leave the room after less than 15 mn, I said I refuse to stay 30 mn with her as she asked, then, after our 3 great rooms at History where she wanted to repeat with me on our first day, when a regular was running after her, he seemed angry in lockers, she didn't want I go with Lorena, she didn't like when Lorena gave me a bit of her diner, at Oase, she said I fucked her mind for the whole day. Later, she smiled again to me, but broken illusion, not anymore interesting for me.
Same with Lucy. De at Palace, but she came to me, as soon she saw me on this Saturday at GT, smiling, kissing, but I didn t go with her, when so many ran after her.
I don't pay, but I judge way to kiss, the most important for me, because the most intimate for girls, even more intimate than swallowing You or fucking her without condom.
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Ortos
[QUOTE=Ortos;2134581]Thanks to Bitumenfor a great and very detailed write-up. Interesting how different people see the the same thing in a different way. For example, I personally had a negative reaction to the man with strange percussion set-up. To me, and several girls I spoke with seen to agree very strongly, he was some weirdo-nutcase who made the most obnoxious cacaphony that made it quite unpleasant to sit anywhere near the dance podium. But fair enough if others liked it, but it was really torture for some of us. One girl explained to me he was "a friend of the Boss" and has permission to do this whenever he visits the club.
In your wonderful post, you quote one of my own prior posts from a few weeks ago and call it "the Ortos defense," etc. I just want to clarify that what you quoted was a specific response to another member who was asking why I did not provide girls names in my post about having lots of "old school service" at Oase, and so you quoted me slightly out of context, but I couldn't tell whether you agree with it or if you are poking fun /"taking the Mick" at me and my approach.
Therefore, I wish to stress that it is simply my own personal view, perhaps shared here by some other members, which seems logical to me. But I respect that others might disagree with me and have there own approach to writing posts. In other words I don't want "to own" this defense, I just see it as a logical result to what might be happening more widely.
But thanks again for your great post.[/QUOTE]Hey Ortos,
Thank you for providing your comments.
The German man with the percussion set up I was just providing observation that he had a following of women who were dancing to the beats from the DJ or from him. Whatever the combination there were girls dancing the French were standing up from their couches moving to the beats he made.
As for my quoting of the Ortos defence this is not out of fun but good common sense as you refer to that if the law is such where a man getting uncovered services can be prosecuted and fined then it is best not to self incriminate by saying you had said uncovered services. I thought what you wrote was perfect as an answer to the ones which will ask who was the girl who BBBJ you similar to how you were asked can you provide names. It was totally in respect to you I name your quote as opposed to plagiarising your words.
I hope to make use of the same argument in future as it is the answer that many want is to not name the ones providing the banned services.
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Despite new law which can prosecute only clients or clubs, but not prostitutes about services provided, but only about registration, so, most of WGs in German clubs still provide natural BJ. Many at Oase run for CIM for 50 more, then they finish rabbits in 15 mn for 100 , and save their little girl vagina.
Many real women don t provide CIM, but ask You to fuck her, after You drank her juice on DATY.
Real women are more attractive for me than little girls, and most often less expensive, not running for extras. With some, still possible to have great GFE for 100 for 1 hour.
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That is perfect, Bitumen. Thanks.
Live long and prosper.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2134671]Despite new law which can prosecute only clients or clubs, but not prostitutes about services provided, but only about registration, so, most of WGs in German clubs still provide natural BJ. Many at Oase run for CIM for 50 more, then they finish rabbits in 15 mn for 100 , and save their little girl vagina.
Many real women don t provide CIM, but ask You to fuck her, after You drank her juice on DATY.
Real women are more attractive for me than little girls, and most often less expensive, not running for extras. With some, still possible to have great GFE for 100 for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Fully online with you, there is no change just because the target of the law was not condom or not condom the target is to get all the girls register so possible to know everything about them, name, age, nationality. After to intensify the controls on them with income taxes for example and after to make some of them leave Germany just because they are upset by all this admi process what already happen many girls left and only few new young and fresh one are coming. The clubs are full of veteran prostitutes who have a fix address in Germany and don t care about their privacy. Yes you can get a 100 euro session with great GFE but believe me it is very difficult in the big Hessen one and mostly impossible for 50 euro.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2134621]Is it the new game at Oase?
100/30 mn and 150 for 1 h, is new GFE Oase rate? [/QUOTE]Sorry Siri, I have absolutely no idea about what you are trying to say here. Did you read my latest posts? Apart from Jenni Oase was great. I had a fantastic time over several days doing mostly 60 mnts sessions (MY choice) at standard rate (100 E). 10 great sessions with as much DFK / DATY / BJ / MPOS CFS as I wanted with some really sweet and goodlooking girls. Oase remains my #1 club. There is no other place I would rather be.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2134814]Sorry Siri, I have absolutely no idea about what you are trying to say here. Did you read my latest posts? Apart from Jenni Oase was great. I had a fantastic time over several days doing mostly 60 mnts sessions (MY choice) at standard price (100 E). 10 great sessions with as much DFK / DATY / BJ / MPOS CFS as I wanted with some really sweet and goodlooking girls. Oase remains my #1 club. There is no other place I would rather be.[/QUOTE]Obviously if you are ready to pay 100 each time you are getting better service but just to remind you that we should be able to get a correct one for 50 euro and 30 minutes.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2134814]Sorry Siri, I have absolutely no idea about what you are trying to say here. Did you read my latest posts? Apart from Jenni Oase was great. I had a fantastic time over several days doing mostly 60 mnts sessions (MY choice) at standard rate (100 E). 10 great sessions with as much DFK / DATY / BJ / MPOS CFS as I wanted with some really sweet and goodlooking girls. Oase remains my #1 club. There is no other place I would rather be.[/QUOTE]So, you are luckier than I was with Mady I knew from History. Ch where she was great GFE for club rate. Other guys I know, were also less lucky than you, for rates and services level. Many guys seem to tell about 100 asked for 30 mn. I don't like 30 mn rooms, I don't have enough time to really foreplay, sometimes take about 30 mn to make cum a girl on DATY, or maybe I m not good enough to be so long.
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I agree with Shark: apart from a few odd bad apples, which can be easily spotted and avoided, there are some great girls at Oase right now, all for standard rates. I don't know what Siri is talking about because all girls I went to room with charged 50/30 mins. And 100/60 mins.
BTW Frenchman: there are girls at Oase now who "kiss like a woman" just the way you like, but you have to find them for your own tastes as attraction and chemistry is not universal. In my opinion you are missing out on a great lineup if you don't visit this club. But I imagine you have not visited recently.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2134882]I agree with Shark: apart from a few odd bad apples, which can be easily spotted and avoided, there are some great girls at Oase right now, all for standard rates. I don't know what Siri is talking about because all girls I went to room with charged 50/30 mins. And 100/60 mins.
BTW Frenchman: there are girls at Oase now who "kiss like a woman" just the way you like, but you have to find them for your own tastes as attraction and chemistry is not universal. In my opinion you are missing out on a great lineup if you don't visit this club. But I imagine you have not visited recently.[/QUOTE]Visited several times Oase in January and sorry it is not my experience, most of the girls are not willing to go for 50 euro 30 minutes including kissing and licking. But I am in the 60 and you are probably very sexy to get this great service, very happy for you.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2134468]It was a time when there were three Carlas at Oase. Only one left now, and that's the most beautiful one IMO. A clear optical highlight at Oase. Also a decent session IME (in a 60 mnts booking):
Early 20's, short, slim, long brown hair. Very beautiful face / eyes. Her most remarkable feature is her amazingly pointy B/C-cups. Fun personality. Good smile. Always cheering up the other girls.
She's been around 3- 4 years at Oase, I think. Last observation this very month.
(Ericarla, known for superb service, is out of business AFAIK. Carla the tits (with average service if I am nice) went to Palace a couple of years ago and I dont know her whereabouts right now).
[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the answer. If she really is still there I will choose OASE over SHARKS on most of my days off in Germany. Business trip coming and I will have a blast for sure!
[QUOTE]p.s. Thanks a lot for your contribution in the Vienna thread. Very helpful and much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Certainly and I will carry on!
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Are there any new stars then? As hot as the likes of Carla / Cheyenne / Ina (the hentai tits) etc? I read Denisa is back and Laura was mentioned on another board. But I thought someone here claimed not long ago that she was out of it for awhile? But any new ones in the same league? Lara though fine didn't quite do it for me chemistry wise. Miss Szanett.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2135074]Are there any new stars then? As hot as the likes of Carla / Cheyenne / Ina (the hentai tits) etc? I read Denisa is back and Laura was mentioned on another board. But I thought someone here claimed not long ago that she was out of it for awhile? But any new ones in the same league? Lara though fine didn't quite do it for me chemistry wise. Miss Szanett.[/QUOTE]Claudia is as hot as Cheyenne IMHO. Sometimes she's not 'in the mood' for a 50 euro session though.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2135074]Are there any new stars then? As hot as the likes of Carla / Cheyenne / Ina (the hentai tits) etc? I read Denisa is back and Laura was mentioned on another board. But I thought someone here claimed not long ago that she was out of it for awhile? But any new ones in the same league? Lara though fine didn't quite do it for me chemistry wise. Miss Szanett.[/QUOTE]Cheyenne a star, maybe you are too optimistic or you fall in love of her, she is just a prostitute no more no less than all the others, has many years (too many) in the business after so many clubs in Germany but also in Switzerland, no German senior monger will never go to the room with her this is a strong sign that she is not worth the money.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2134882]I agree with Shark: apart from a few odd bad apples, which can be easily spotted and avoided, there are some great girls at Oase right now, all for standard rates. I don't know what Siri is talking about because all girls I went to room with charged 50/30 mins. And 100/60 mins.
BTW Frenchman: there are girls at Oase now who "kiss like a woman" just the way you like, but you have to find them for your own tastes as attraction and chemistry is not universal. In my opinion you are missing out on a great lineup if you don't visit this club. But I imagine you have not visited recently.[/QUOTE]I visited twice in 2017, disappointing castings for look, and low level for sex, far below Ina. Lat, but maybe Oase is becoming new Heaven for 2018? Between ski Worldcup and my NRW girls, no time to visit again, but I will trust only my eyes and brain, for my pleasure.
Anyway, happy for you guys, if you have pleasure at simply the best.
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Massimo Potente, as people stated here, if the Carla you are looking for is the same one I went with and the one people are talking about (who have been in the club for 3+ years), then she is around. I thought she look somewhat like to Emily Ratajkowski. Adele actually introduced her to me when I asked her who else I should go with. She is very observant and knew exactly who I normally go with. I only had time to take her for 30 mins session before closing but she was excellent and still provided DFK and everything else.
Ortos, if you stay til late the day when we were at the club last time, do you remember seeing these two girls, with like belly dancing skirt, at the end? One is a German girl?, with big tattoo that covers her upper back, very slim and nice body, long legs, wore black lingerie, I think she had silicon. The other one is also somewhat tall, perky be, very pale skin, long black hair, wear dark lipstick and look somewhat like Lorde, the singer. Anyone knows their name?
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2135304]Massimo Potente, as people stated here, if the Carla you are looking for is the same one I went with and the one people are talking about (who have been in the club for 3+ years), then she is around. I thought she look somewhat like to Emily Ratajkowski.[/QUOTE]I think there is a resemblence to Emily Ratajkowski. That's nice and good news!
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2134468]It was a time when there were three Carlas at Oase....Carla the tits (with average service if I am nice) went to Palace a couple of years ago and I dont know her whereabouts right now)....[/QUOTE]One of her ex colleague from World days (and now in Globe) told me she is (or was?) pregnant hence she quit or something like that. The conversation was very fast hence some details could be sketchy. If so Rogue Nation aka Hessen Bub or somebody else correct please, thanks.
I spotted indeed Carla in Palace in March 2016, haven't seen her since 2012. Boy how bad or say different she looked now in the face, I couldn't recognize her anymore. She did surgery?. Tits were still some good but glorious ass I don't know or can't tell, it was always covered. Sic.
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[QUOTE=AdamCki;2135560]One of her ex colleague from World days (and now in Globe) told me she is (or was?) pregnant hence she quit or something like that. The conversation was very fast hence some details could be sketchy. If so Rogue Nation aka Hessen Bub or somebody else correct please, thanks.
I spotted indeed Carla in Palace in March 2016, haven't seen her since 2012. Boy how bad or say different she looked now in the face, I couldn't recognize her anymore. She did surgery?. Tits were still some good but glorious ass I don't know or can't tell, it was always covered. Sic.[/QUOTE]Even in World in 13/14 she went to some strong surgery, she was a very unstable girl, then left for few months to Oase, happy for her if she quit and have a normal life.
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[QUOTE=AdamCki;2135560]One of her ex colleague from World days (and now in Globe) told me she is (or was?) pregnant hence she quit or something like that. The conversation was very fast hence some details could be sketchy. If so Rogue Nation aka Hessen Bub or somebody else correct please, thanks.
I spotted indeed Carla in Palace in March 2016, haven't seen her since 2012. Boy how bad or say different she looked now in the face, I couldn't recognize her anymore. She did surgery?. Tits were still some good but glorious ass I don't know or can't tell, it was always covered. Sic.[/QUOTE]If you are referring to Carla who went to palace from oase, aka the tits, yes she is pregnant again. And don't be sad she quit LOL. If you see her again in the club I bet you won't want to go with her. Don't look good anymore. I don't know how, but I stumbled onto her insta LOL.
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[QUOTE=Nuupter;2135771]If you are referring to Carla who went to palace from oase, aka the tits, yes she is pregnant again. And don't be sad she quit LOL. If you see her again in the club I bet you won't want to go with her. Don't look good anymore. I don't know how, but I stumbled onto her insta LOL.[/QUOTE]Obviously she is also getting older even 3 for 4 years back without make up her face and skin was bad, she also started very early esthetic surgery.
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[QUOTE=Nuupter;2135771]If you are referring to Carla who went to palace from oase, aka the tits, yes she is pregnant again. And don't be sad she quit LOL. If you see her again in the club I bet you won't want to go with her. Don't look good anymore. I don't know how, but I stumbled onto her insta LOL.[/QUOTE]At World there was another girl the name is Tina, I saw her 2 weeks back in World and was surprised by her face she is looking very old, tired. Not fresh at all, but the body is still fine. To be a prostitute has a lot of negative side effects the strongest one for me is the expression of the girls, their face is getting so sad year after year only few of them are able to manage all this well. Yesterday I met a girl 20 years old, 1 week in the job and she told me her brain is crazy.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2133040]Has anybody seen Nika lately? The German one with tattoo saying abdel.[/QUOTE]
Wow, it's been a week and no responses. That's sort of understandable -- she hasn't been active in the Frankfurt scene in years.
I think I last saw her at Oase three years ago -- so maybe many of the posters no longer know who she is.
I can PM you details if you clear your inbox.
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Carla the tits
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2135560]One of her ex colleague from World days (and now in Globe) told me she is (or was?) pregnant hence she quit or something like that. The conversation was very fast hence some details could be sketchy. If so Rogue Nation aka Hessen Bub or somebody else correct please, thanks.
I spotted indeed Carla in Palace in March 2016, haven't seen her since 2012. Boy how bad or say different she looked now in the face, I couldn't recognize her anymore. She did surgery?. Tits were still some good but glorious ass I don't know or can't tell, it was always covered. Sic.[/QUOTE]I am glad I use to fuck her in the ass (and pussy) too. Baby making is harder if ass fucking her ass.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2136067]Wow, it's been a week and no responses. That's sort of understandable -- she hasn't been active in the Frankfurt scene in years.
I think I last saw her at Oase three years ago -- so maybe many of the posters no longer know who she is.
I can PM you details if you clear your inbox.[/QUOTE]Thanks inbox cleared.
I miss those group of girls and yes, about 3 years ago in Oase was last I saw her and Artemis before that.
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Carla with the coloured tattoo, small, skinny: She is working at Oase, she lost some weight, her tits aren't as full anymore as they used to be.
Carla who started at Word, had a short appearance at Globe, moved to Oase and Palace: I haven't seen her around for a while.
Erica aka Carla who started at Night & Day, moved to World, then Oase, had 3 stars above her eye, different hair colors including blue: She is out of business in Romania.
Nika, German girl who started at Artemis, moved to Palace and then Oase, heavily tattooed and silly cones: Haven't seen her for a while.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2136069]I am glad I use to fuck her in the ass (and pussy) too. Baby making is harder if ass fucking her ass.[/QUOTE]You are a real poet, if she is really pregnant maybe we can show some respect.
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Nika
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2136067]Wow, it's been a week and no responses. That's sort of understandable -- she hasn't been active in the Frankfurt scene in years.
I think I last saw her at Oase three years ago -- so maybe many of the posters no longer know who she is.
I can PM you details if you clear your inbox.[/QUOTE]Last year I saw her on the daily plan of Club Pearls in Trier ([URL]http://club-pearls.de/[/URL]). But only for a short time.
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Live from Oase.
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2136177]Carla with the coloured tattoo, small, skinny: She is working at Oase, she lost some weight, her tits aren't as full anymore as they used to be..[/QUOTE]I managed to exchange a few words with her a little earlier in the evening. I feel that she either started very late of was busy all day. So she is here now and after some recovery I will ask her to go to the room with me. She is perfect. If the tits were even fuller before she must've been a perfect 10. Maybe disregarding her shortness.
She is wearing glasses today. That makes her easy to spot.
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[QUOTE=MonSooner;2136411]I managed to exchange a few words with her a little earlier in the evening. I feel that she either started very late of was busy all day. So she is here now and after some recovery I will ask her to go to the room with me. She is perfect. If the tits were even fuller before she must've been a perfect 10. Maybe disregarding her shortness.
She is wearing glasses today. That makes her easy to spot.[/QUOTE]Enjoy your time with her but never forget that she is not a queen or a princess but just a prostitute willing to take as much cash as possible form you.
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NIKA De
[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;2136187]Last year I saw her on the daily plan of Club Pearls in Trier ([URL]http://club-pearls.de/[/URL]). But only for a short time.[/QUOTE]Hey Mr. Ho. FYI I was at paradise saarbrucken 2 weeks ago since I was told that Nika was there. I spent some time chatting with a girl who is an oldtimer at paradise. She confirmed that Nika was there but left like 6-8 months ago. I am looking for her like crazy. If anyone finds her. Tell us. I recall when I saw her the first time back in 2015 in Oase. She was something.
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[QUOTE=RioDeJaneiro1;2136783]Hey Mr. Ho. FYI I was at paradise saarbrucken 2 weeks ago since I was told that Nika was there. I spent some time chatting with a girl who is an oldtimer at paradise. She confirmed that Nika was there but left like 6-8 months ago. I am looking for her like crazy. If anyone finds her. Tell us. I recall when I saw her the first time back in 2015 in Oase. She was something.[/QUOTE]Forget her and switch to another girl she is just a prostitute no more no less.
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Carla the small brunette with perky breasts
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2136411]I managed to exchange a few words with her a little earlier in the evening. I feel that she either started very late of was busy all day. So she is here now and after some recovery I will ask her to go to the room with me. She is perfect. If the tits were even fuller before she must've been a perfect 10. Maybe disregarding her shortness.
She is wearing glasses today. That makes her easy to spot.[/QUOTE]How was your session with Carla the brunette with perky breasts. She is good and works hard to please.
Friendly girl.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2137573]How was your session with Carla the brunette with perky breasts. She is good and works hard to please.
Friendly girl.[/QUOTE]Good but I found that with the kilos that she lost, some of her kindness and youthful cheer has been also lost.
Still recommended but far from the whirlwind of 1 year ago.
The Secretary look with the glasses becomes her, though.
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Live from Oase again.
Unbelievable but true, I officially like Oase over Sharks now even if it is just a momentary thing.
Had an intense session with Blackie Teresa and she might have been the best black girl I fucked yet. For sure in the TOP2 along with Sarah from Maxim Vienna. Hard to compare though because different type. Super good room with no upsell attempt at all.
Saw beauty Claudia again with new and improved haircut. Maybe I will take her for my final session or one other dark haired slim cutie whose name I forgot. Will post the final report in the morning.
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Carla ro is a good choice
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2137596]Good but I found that with the kilos that she lost, some of her kindness and youthful cheer has been also lost.
Still recommended but far from the whirlwind of 1 year ago.
The Secretary look with the glasses becomes her, though.[/QUOTE]I found that she still has that same joy having lost the kilograms and some of the bounce in her tits. Lord knows I need to lose some kilograms myself.
Carla makes up for it in other ways with public displays of affection and having a wide repertoire of services available for extra price that she happily provides.
I find Carla gets booked out by Americans a lot.
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[QUOTE=MonSooner;2137960]Unbelievable but true, I officially like Oase over Sharks now even if it is just a momentary thing.
Had an intense session with Blackie Teresa and she might have been the best black girl I fucked yet. For sure in the TOP2 along with Sarah from Maxim Vienna. Hard to compare though because different type. Super good room with no upsell attempt at all.
Saw beauty Claudia again with new and improved haircut. Maybe I will take her for my final session or one other dark haired slim cutie whose name I forgot. Will post the final report in the morning.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to your final report in the morning with bated breath.
I find Oase is a good choice. A place to escape when Sharks becomes too much.
I keep missing Claudia.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2137993]
I find Oase is a good choice. A place to escape when Sharks becomes too much.
I keep missing Claudia.[/QUOTE]She is here tonight and will be here all weekend for the Messe she says. She only works 3-4 days a week. Finally tried her and was a perfect room at 4 pm when the club was dead. She has an upselling reputation and has tried to push a 150 euro hour on me before but luckily I did not get any of that this time except a passing offer for Anal.
Actually had a better time at Oase than Sharks this trip. More couch time with top girls, but I went on a Monday / Tuesday.
Blond wing tattoo Anna and slim, tatooed, short hair Claudia with an improved ass provided exceptional rooms, while brunette, pretty face, dancing queen Ariana provided a great hour with some annoying attempts to extend time.
Funny observation, at one point all of the guys in the relax room were Asian. Some girls were looking in and trying to entice. I felt like I was in a Panda cage at the zoo, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2137995] Blond wing tattoo Anna and slim, tatooed, short hair Claudia with an improved ass provided exceptional rooms, while brunette, pretty face, dancing queen Ariana provided a great hour with some annoying attempts to extend time.[/QUOTE]This is the slim, small Claudia with a turquoise / orange tattoo?
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2137999]This is the slim, small Claudia with a turquoise / orange tattoo?[/QUOTE]Sounds like her.
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Claudia
[QUOTE=Takedown;2137995]She is here tonight and will be here all weekend for the Messe she says. She only works 3-4 days a week. Finally tried her and was a perfect room at 4 pm when the club was dead. She has an upselling reputation and has tried to push a 150 euro hour on me before but luckily I did not get any of that this time except a passing offer for Anal.
Actually had a better time at Oase than Sharks this trip. More couch time with top girls, but I went on a Monday / Tuesday.
Blond wing tattoo Anna and slim, tatooed, short hair Claudia with an improved ass provided exceptional rooms, while brunette, pretty face, dancing queen Ariana provided a great hour with some annoying attempts to extend time.
Funny observation, at one point all of the guys in the relax room were Asian. Some girls were looking in and trying to entice. I felt like I was in a Panda cage at the zoo, LOL.[/QUOTE]Jaysus. Are you still there Takedown?
Claudia needs a serious fucking and I am the man to do it. There is a serious boner aching for her butt hole (as well as Carla's).
There is a Messe? Jaysus, that may explain things then why it is like costs are skyrocketing to three times what I use to pay. Newbie mistake.
Ok, I just google it and its the Ambiente Messe from 9 to 13 February. Jaysus. That is a heavy Messe. No wonder the Sharks brand names are saying they are busy.
Nice that Claudia did a nice number for you for standard pricing. Man, plundering Claudia's ass hole must be heaven on earth for 100 extra bucks.
I know. Read my trip report a few pages down and you can feel the energy like it was my first day in the clubs. The girls were giving me couch time left right and center.
There was a German man with glasses making a cacophony on his drum kit that he bring into the club to act out his Ringo Starr fantasy and be the drummer. He make the girls raise their hands in the air and dance around the podium.
I need to keep an eye out for Anna and Ariana. I don't know who they are. Maybe Shark16 can help here.
When the crowds are going one way like Sharks maybe it is to become contrarian and head to the places beyond the rim and go to Oase.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138001]I need to keep an eye out for Anna and Ariana. I don't know who they are. Maybe Shark16 can help here.[/QUOTE]Hey,
Too many Annas. I am clueless.
Ariana is decent IME: Early 20's, dark curly hair, medium height, slim, be-cups, pretty face with big striking eyes (her eye flirting makes me dizzy). Loves to dance (when the guy with the drum kit is around she is not far away) and can bring a lot of that rythm back into the room. Fond memories!
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Anna and Ariana
[QUOTE=Shark16;2138014]Hey,
Too many Annas. I am clueless.
Ariana is decent IME: Early 20's, dark curly hair, medium height, slim, be-cups, pretty face with big striking eyes (her eye flirting makes me dizzy). Loves to dance (when the guy with the drum kit is around she is not far away) and can bring a lot of that rythm back into the room. Fond memories![/QUOTE]I know Anna the day time black haired girl with the teenie body who like to wear the black hold up stockings.
I also knew a short haired blonde Anna too.
Yeah, I need to investigate which Anna that the man talk about.
Okay, Ariana like to dance to the German man with the drum kit that make a cacophony. She sound really nice. I like the eye flirting since that can charm the man big time. Jaysus. She be worth 100 bucks.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2137993]Looking forward to your final report in the morning with bated breath.
I find Oase is a good choice. A place to escape when Sharks becomes too much.
I keep missing Claudia.[/QUOTE]Had another small chat with Claudia and man was I tempted to do her again. But I didn't and went for Christina instead. Although she is very flat-chested I can day she is my type in a way. Sat down with her and even though we didn't have immediate chemistry later in the room we hit it off massively. No upsell attempt but tbh I didn't give her a chance to sell anything.
Absolute dear kind person. Very recommended. I stayed 1 hour because I needed it.
Oase has beaten Sharks, kicked its ass out of the stadium and stands tall.
Only downside, quite unfriendly receptionists as I left but hey, still a job well done Oase.
Had Sharks club not made me so insecure in the last couple of days I would have sessioned more but I admit it had an effect on me and I am not easily affected in such circumstances.
The upselling strategy is really an unprofitable one in the long run. Instead of 4-5 sessions I had just 2 today and the night before also. Less girls make money that way.
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MonSooner
MonSooner,
Thank you for the final excerpt from your report.
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2138042] Had another small chat with Claudia and man was I tempted to do her again. But I didn't and went for Christina instead. Although she is very flat-chested I can day she is my type in a way. Sat down with her and even though we didn't have immediate chemistry later in the room we hit it off massively. No upsell attempt but tbh I didn't give her a chance to sell anything. Absolute dear kind person. Very recommended. I stayed 1 hour because I needed it. [/QUOTE]Good to know you liked to bag [B]Christina[/B]. I am okay with flat chest but not to the point that the girl is like an ironing board. I cannot do that. Makes me feel like she is like a little boy and I cannot countenance such a travesty.
No need to repeat with [B]Claudia[/B], she is well hot and man she is well put together as a unit. I lust after her when she walks by me.
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2138042]Only downside, quite unfriendly receptionists as I left but hey, still a job well done Oase. [/QUOTE]Are there still the Oase branded orange caps and Oase branded black umbrellas up for grabs from the receptionists?
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2138042]Oase has beaten Sharks, kicked its ass out of the stadium and stands tall. Had Sharks club not made me so insecure in the last couple of days I would have sessioned more but I admit it had an effect on me and I am not easily affected in such circumstances. The upselling strategy is really an unprofitable one in the long run. Instead of 4-5 sessions I had just 2 today and the night before also. Less girls make money that way. [/QUOTE]These are my thoughts seriously.
I am sick of competing for the best girls at Sharks. There are like 50 pandas as McAdonis says hunting the 10 or so Asian hunting pole dancers. Then there are the Ottoman hunters who specialize in doing the Turkish men since they can handle the wear and tear and like the quick sessions. Then the American and Scandinavian contingent who are doing their thing too.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138001]Jaysus. Are you still there Takedown?
Claudia needs a serious fucking and I am the man to do it. There is a serious boner aching for her butt hole (as well as Carla's).
There is a Messe? Jaysus, that may explain things then why it is like costs are skyrocketing to three times what I use to pay. Newbie mistake.
Ok, I just google it and its the Ambiente Messe from 9 to 13 February. Jaysus. That is a heavy Messe. No wonder the Sharks brand names are saying they are busy.
Nice that Claudia did a nice number for you for standard pricing. Man, plundering Claudia's ass hole must be heaven on earth for 100 extra bucks..[/QUOTE]In case of messe Oase is even getting more crowded than Shark but still many other places possible with no Asian guys destroying everything by overpaying for poor service.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138056]MonSooner,
Thank you for the final excerpt from your report.
Good to know you liked to bag [B]Christina[/B]. I am okay with flat chest but not to the point that the girl is like an ironing board. I cannot do that. Makes me feel like she is like a little boy and I cannot countenance such a travesty.
No need to repeat with [B]Claudia[/B], she is well hot and man she is well put together as a unit. I lust after her when she walks by me.
Are there still the Oase branded orange caps and Oase branded black umbrellas up for grabs from the receptionists?
These are my thoughts seriously.
I am sick of competing for the best girls at Sharks. There are like 50 pandas as McAdonis says hunting the 10 or so Asian hunting pole dancers. Then there are the Ottoman hunters who specialize in doing the Turkish men since they can handle the wear and tear and like the quick sessions. Then the American and Scandinavian contingent who are doing their thing too.[/QUOTE]Currently, no need to complete, IMO. Oase is just better now.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2137991]Carla makes up for it in other ways with public displays of affection and having a wide repertoire of services available for extra price that she happily provides.
I find Carla gets booked out by Americans a lot.[/QUOTE]Carla goes for tourists only and avoids German regulars. This is because she doesn't like to kiss for 50 EUR and tries to avoid complaints by regulars. So expect 100 EUR to be the minimum amount for good service, and that is probably 100 EUR / 30 min.
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CBJ prevalent at Oase
Regarding CBJ at Oase as the norm at Oase per German guys I know. There is the usual spiel at reception whereby the new German guys to the club are spoken to in German who are told: half hour with the girl is 50 for suck and fuck. For come in the girls mouth is 50 extra. Only some will see the irony in these statements.
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Hearsay or personal experience? I didn't read any reports about BBBJ at Oase.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138143]Regarding CBJ at Oase as the norm at Oase per German guys I know. There is the usual spiel at reception whereby the new German guys to the club are spoken to in German who are told: half hour with the girl is 50 for suck and fuck. For come in the girls mouth is 50 extra. Only some will see the irony in these statements.[/QUOTE]I am a great fan of your posts but not so much of this one. Could we leave certain information to pms?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138143]Regarding CBJ at Oase as the norm at Oase per German guys I know. There is the usual spiel at reception whereby the new German guys to the club are spoken to in German who are told: half hour with the girl is 50 for suck and fuck. For come in the girls mouth is 50 extra. Only some will see the irony in these statements.[/QUOTE]I don't believe that CBJ is prevalent at least not for me, never a girl has put some condom, most German guys want no cover but don't want to pay 50 euro extra just for CIM so I am too, I stop paying for that the girls just put the sperm under their tongue and immediately split it in the dustbin and wash their mouth with Listerine no need to pay for that 50 euros.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2138214]I am a great fan of your posts but not so much of this one. Could we leave certain information to pms?[/QUOTE]Since when? Here everybody is posting information about which clubs allow BBBJ and which don't. Encouraged and approved by admin.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2138423]Since when? Here everybody is posting information about which clubs allow BBBJ and which don't. Encouraged and approved by admin.[/QUOTE]Indeed. The current law is virtually unenforcible other than BBBJ in *public* areas. The law doesn't penalize the girls at all. Only the guys potentially. But there is essentially no way for cops to gather evidence. In general the local authorities consider it an imposition by politicians who like to posture.
The only way a law like this can have any effect is if we let it by helping to spread unnecessary fear and worry. There might be scattered reports of girls getting hassled by their management, but for every occurrence like that there are probably 500 BBBJs that go without any problems.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2138214]I am a great fan of your posts but not so much of this one. Could we leave certain information to pms?[/QUOTE]Thank you Turgid for your support. It is appreciated.
PM is fine.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2138522]Indeed. The current law is virtually unenforcible other than BBBJ in *public* areas. The law doesn't penalize the girls at all. Only the guys potentially. But there is essentially no way for cops to gather evidence. In general the local authorities consider it an imposition by politicians who like to posture.
The only way a law like this can have any effect is if we let it by helping to spread unnecessary fear and worry. There might be scattered reports of girls getting hassled by their management, but for every occurrence like that there are probably 500 BBBJs that go without any problems.[/QUOTE]The target of the new law was not to protect the health of the prostitutes this was just a cosmetic approach, I am quite that never any monger will have to pay for a BBBJ, but what is sure is that the German government has a exhaustive database of all the girls being prostitutes in Germany including names, addresses, passport number. What one day the authorities will do with it nobody knows even not themselves, but there is a high risk obviously there just have a look of what happen of the extreme confidential data of the owner of bank accounts in Switzerland. BBBJ is still available as before no change at least for me without asking something.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2138112]Currently, no need to complete, IMO. Oase is just better now.[/QUOTE]Thank you Danny227. Gives me comfort for the future.
I hate competing for girls at Sharks to "complete" as you describe. There seems to be a queue of guys wanting the brand names like Helen, Mandy and Evita at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138143]Regarding CBJ at Oase as the norm at Oase per German guys I know. There is the usual spiel at reception whereby the new German guys to the club are spoken to in German who are told: half hour with the girl is 50 for suck and fuck. For come in the girls mouth is 50 extra. Only some will see the irony in these statements.[/QUOTE]Fully correct many times I heard in the recent weeks the girls at the reception explaining that CIM is 50, also the girls are more or less obliged to do BBBJ it is a competitive advantage against other clubs. If we refer to the new law CIM is forbidden but also the clubs are not allowed to fix the prices, they have to explain to the customers that everything is with condom and that the prices are done by each girl but nothing of that is happening in any club, again it confirms for me that the target of the new was not those one but to create a database of all the prostitutes in Germany and push some girls out of Germany by some admin harassment but never to support them, who cares about poor girls mostly coming from Roumania.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138534]Thank you Turgid for your support. It is appreciated.
PM is fine.[/QUOTE]You are spreading information about BBBJ at the clubs and now you thank another member for trying to do the opposite? How does that make sense?
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Wow these reports make me think I need to go to Oase instead of Sharks this weekend.
How much is taxi price from frankfurt to Burgholzhausen? Also is the non-silicone lineup good?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2138522]Indeed. The current law is virtually unenforcible other than BBBJ in *public* area.[/QUOTE]And even that I might have spotted in one of the club's I was.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138537]Thank you Danny227. Gives me comfort for the future.
I hate competing for girls at Sharks to "complete" as you describe. There seems to be a queue of guys wanting the brand names like Helen, Mandy and Evita at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Forget all those brand names, they are not better or worse in the room, the key is the chemistry between people. My type of girl will probably not be yours and the contrary could be true also, no need to create the buzz around some girls, they are all just prostitutes, nobody is able to tell me the name of the stars 3 or 5 years back. Some girls are doing things with me but not with others and the contrary is also true, I will never understand why we always want to treat girls like a product with this and that features, if she has some stomach problem she will probably not do anal that day, if she has her days she will be different and not accept that or that position, so what can be the value of that or that report. All this songs very logical at least for me.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2138423]Since when? Here everybody is posting information about which clubs allow BBBJ and which don't. Encouraged and approved by admin.[/QUOTE]There are clubs that vigorously discourage BBBJ such as Mainhatten. There are no clubs that encourage it.
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Cof?
Hi guys,
How common and easy is it to have Com On Face with the ladies? Cost?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2138671]There are clubs that vigorously discourage BBBJ such as Mainhatten. There are no clubs that encourage it.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, there are clubs where staff had briefing with girls to say to girls, they won t accept to receive complaints from clients. Most of girls understood the message, to be able to keep on their business.
FKK land is not wonderland.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2138671]There are clubs that vigorously discourage BBBJ such as Mainhatten. There are no clubs that encourage it.[/QUOTE]You are wrong I heard several times in Oase and Shark the staff clearly explaining to the new girls that they have to do BJ without, it is a strong tool to bit the other clubs which are promoting CBJ.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2138671]There are clubs that vigorously discourage BBBJ such as Mainhatten. There are no clubs that encourage it.[/QUOTE]The encouraging part was about the Forum policy.
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IMO it's rare to be offered even though it does happen. The number that will accept it but not advertise that is higher. 50€ is the cost.
[QUOTE=CarExpert;2138674]Hi guys,
How common and easy is it to have Com On Face with the ladies? Cost?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2138679]Unfortunately, there are clubs where staff had briefing with girls to say to girls, they won t accept to receive complaints from clients. Most of girls understood the message, to be able to keep on their business.
FKK land is not wonderland.[/QUOTE]To be clear, did the clubs have a meeting to encourage BBBJ or was the meeting to forbid it?
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[QUOTE=KenzoTange;2138607]Wow these reports make me think I need to go to Oase instead of Sharks this weekend.
How much is taxi price from frankfurt to Burgholzhausen? Also is the non-silicone lineup good?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Me too, any way to get there from public transport.
Maybe we should split a cab.
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[QUOTE=KenzoTange;2138607]Wow these reports make me think I need to go to Oase instead of Sharks this weekend.
How much is taxi price from frankfurt to Burgholzhausen? Also is the non-silicone lineup good?
Thanks![/QUOTE]It will be around 50 e from downtown Frankfurt to Oase or you can take s5 to the end (Friedrichsdolf) and take cab for 10 e. Or Walk 40 min on google map if the weather is nice.
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Carla.
This Carla ro, assembles to Emily Ratajkowski, is the best "Carla" in Oase. I knew her for a while. She started to work in Oase since early 2015, on and off. Every time I went to Oase, I did try to give her at least one hour session. She claimed she was a tennis-player and once attended USTA tournaments at California!
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2135304]Massimo Potente, as people stated here, if the Carla you are looking for is the same one I went with and the one people are talking about (who have been in the club for 3+ years), then she is around. I thought she look somewhat like to Emily Ratajkowski. Adele actually introduced her to me when I asked her who else I should go with. She is very observant and knew exactly who I normally go with. I only had time to take her for 30 mins session before closing but she was excellent and still provided DFK and everything else.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2138679]Unfortunately, there are clubs where staff had briefing with girls to say to girls, they won t accept to receive complaints from clients. Most of girls understood the message, to be able to keep on their business.
FKK land is not wonderland.[/QUOTE]Even if they brief the girls thus I know of no clubs that take complaints of clients seriously. In the very few times that I have complained management either takes the girl's side or tells me 'hey, forget it, just go have fun'.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2138807]Even if they brief the girls thus I know of no clubs that take complaints of clients seriously. In the very few times that I have complained management either takes the girl's side or tells me 'hey, forget it, just go have fun'.[/QUOTE]Right they are always on the side of the girls, but I don't care I blacklist those clubs.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2138807]Even if they brief the girls thus I know of no clubs that take complaints of clients seriously. In the very few times that I have complained management either takes the girl's side or tells me 'hey, forget it, just go have fun'.[/QUOTE]At GT, I saw a Romanian cutie arriving, she looked shy and lost. After 2 old Germans, she was said to leave. I asked desk to let me try her, they refused. It was my mistake to wait too long, but I thought she needed a bit of time.
Last Sunday, I was lazy, so one fat old was the first for a new girl, but no other second than me, and when I left I said to the desk to keep for me this Romanian model type I enjoyed, so wet in bed, and for diner she wanted we have together after, asking also I come to say Goodbye before leaving. Wish to see her again.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2138807]Even if they brief the girls thus I know of no clubs that take complaints of clients seriously. In the very few times that I have complained management either takes the girl's side or tells me 'hey, forget it, just go have fun'.[/QUOTE]The prevailing attitude is don't ask, don't tell, don't cause problems. Management considers loss of income as the only meaningful problem. Keep BB services behind closed doors, and everyone is happy.
Because these laws are unenforcible, the only way they can impact what happens behind closed doors is through irrational fear. And at this point the only folks spreading fear among we consumers is not the police, club management, or sex workers. The only folks spreading fear are other consumers on boards like this.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2138850]The prevailing attitude is don't ask, don't tell, don't cause problems. Management considers loss of income as the only meaningful problem. Keep BB services behind closed doors, and everyone is happy.
Because these laws are unenforcible, the only way they can impact what happens behind closed doors is through irrational fear. And at this point the only folks spreading fear among we consumers is not the police, club management, or sex workers. The only folks spreading fear are other consumers on boards like this.[/QUOTE]The biggest concern is not what is happening in the rooms but the complete lost of control by the management of Oase and Shark of the price policy implemented by the veteran girls which will definitively one time or another impact their revenues.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2138578]You are spreading information about BBBJ at the clubs and now you thank another member for trying to do the opposite? How does that make sense?[/QUOTE] On the contrary.
The primary point was I am thanking Turgid for his support in enjoying my posts. It is good manners to do so and being civil.
I will endeavor to continue to make my posts enjoyable for Turgid, among others.
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Come on face
[QUOTE=CarExpert;2138674]Hi guys,
How common and easy is it to have Com On Face with the ladies? Cost?[/QUOTE]
As Ararat as said below, I concur with his prognosis.
Come on face is possible, not always readily available for the girl with a layer cake of make up, but is at 50 bucks surcharge.
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Public action
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2138631]And even that I might have spotted in one of the club's I was.[/QUOTE]The public action is rarer across all the clubs, but it is possible. Seen it in the public lounge or in the jacuzzi. Just ask your girl.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138854]Nothing of the sort. Where did I mention BBBJ in my post?
The primary point was I am thanking Turgid for his support in enjoying my posts. It is good manners to do so and for many does not need an explanation.[/QUOTE]No need to be angry about BBBJ or not, believe me nobody cares about it, no control nothing. It was not the main target of the new law.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138858]The public action is rarer across all the clubs, but it is possible. Seen it in the public lounge or in the jacuzzi. Just ask your girl.[/QUOTE]I never saw public action except some HJ or light BJ may be possible late night in some circumstances but in the day I don t believe it is possible.
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[QUOTE=MonSooner;2138042]...and went for [B]Christina[/B] instead. Although she is very flat-chested I can day she is my type in a way. Sat down with her and even though we didn't have immediate chemistry later in the room we hit it off massively. No upsell attempt but tbh I didn't give her a chance to sell anything.
Absolute dear kind person. Very recommended. I stayed 1 hour because I needed it...[/QUOTE]Is this Christina, small ROM, dark or Brunette, long hair, have a cross tattoo? I thought she has a very nice body. Though I don't normally take her, she always smile and say Hi to me. A very nice gal with no pressure outside the room.
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Couch time at Oase
[QUOTE=Takedown;2138894]Oase girls are still approach happy. The good part is that when I went, it was not so busy so I got plenty of couch time before the room like Bitumen mentioned. Something like half an hour of couch time of dancing and flirting for a couple of girls I went with.[/QUOTE]Thank you [B]Takedown[/B] for your report and your concurrence with my experience at [B]FKK Oase[/B] on the prevalence of ample couch time even when no room is expected as a result. Many of the Oase girls are darlings and generous with their time. I do not get the same experience at Sharks which, to me, feels more commercial in mindset.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2138788]To be clear, did the clubs have a meeting to encourage BBBJ or was the meeting to forbid it?[/QUOTE]They say to their girls, despite new law, they don t want clients complain and don t return. Do you understand the message to girls? But club put information about law.
At GT, girls were said it s your business.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138929]Thank you [B]Takedown[/B] for your report and your concurrence with my experience at [B]FKK Oase[/B] on the prevalence of ample couch time even when no room is expected as a result. Many of the Oase girls are darlings and generous with their time. I do not get the same experience at Sharks which, to me, feels more commercial in mindset.[/QUOTE]Sorry but when you say many of the Oase girls are darlings and generous I really can t agree with you, at least it is my experience after more than 100 of visits, in my case except some really sweet one the girls are quite aggressive if you don't go to the room with them if they consider you are their regular after several sessions. There is a kind of strong jealousy. Had this problem for example with Alina or Annah. I have a better experience on this front with Shark girls.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2138963]They say to their girls, despite new law, they don t want clients complain and don t return. Do you understand the message to girls? But club put information about law.
At GT, girls were said it s your business.[/QUOTE]The follow the law by advertising everywhere that condom is compulsory but on off they encourage the girls not to change their habits, in some FKK like Shark or Oase even they push the girls to act like before the 1st July 2017.
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Emily Ratajkowski' photo, which Carla resembles.
If anyone want to know what Carla ro looks like, please see attached photo. I think there is 80% resemblance. Haha.
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Question.
If I would like to have a threesome for a full hour with lesbo show CIM anal how much will it cost?
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2138926]Is this Christina, small ROM, dark or Brunette, long hair, have a cross tattoo? I thought she has a very nice body. Though I don't normally take her, she always smile and say Hi to me. A very nice gal with no pressure outside the room.[/QUOTE]No doubt. That is her.
I had a great time with her. I don't think, by default, that she offers all services always but with chemistry very good service for sure. Friendly and modest. Little bit jumpy.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2138850]Because these laws are unenforcible, the only way they can impact what happens behind closed doors is through irrational fear. And at this point the only folks spreading fear among we consumers is not the police, club management, or sex workers. The only folks spreading fear are other consumers on boards like this.[/QUOTE]Wrong. The law may not be enforceable. Harassing clubs which are reported to allow BBBJ with controls and checks by authorities or police is an option that is happening. Take LivingRoom as an example.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2138963]They say to their girls, despite new law, they don t want clients complain and don t return. Do you understand the message to girls? But club put information about law.
At GT, girls were said it s your business.[/QUOTE]I am not in Germany now but perhaps some monger who is there should go to the room with a girl for 1/2 hr 50 E and ask her for BBBJ. If she refuses he should complain to management and report here what was management's response.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2139172]I am not in Germany now but perhaps some monger who is there should go to the room with a girl for 1/2 hr 50 E and ask her for BBBJ. If she refuses he should complain to management and report here what was management's response.[/QUOTE]The response is easy to anticipate. This plan won't work that way. The guy can complain but not about services regarding condoms or none, I would imagine.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2139172]I am not in Germany now but perhaps some monger who is there should go to the room with a girl for 1/2 hr 50 E and ask her for BBBJ. If she refuses he should complain to management and report here what was management's response.[/QUOTE]If you are well know in the club or by the girl, if you are not very clean and a bit attractive no chance to get a BBBJ for 50 euro or the girl is very desperate. Now all the girls do the same as soon they believe the guy is not top clean they will put condom, for them mentally it is a strong protection they don t have the feeling to really have sex there is a barrier between their body and the monger, this point is extremely important.
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March 25th.
So I was trying to book a hotel room for the 25th next month. I see a few that don't have that week available. Is something going on there that so many rooms are pre booked already. I'm trying to find nearest hotel to Oase. As I was trying to get VIP suite at Oase but nobody has gotten back with me as of yet on the price of that. It will be a Sunday that I go any one else plan on going this day we can possibly link up? As I'm leaving Monday to go towards Wurzburg then Bayreuth. See what kind of laudhaus or FKK I can find that way after I enjoy Oase from the time they open until closing.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2139166]Wrong. The law may not be enforceable. Harassing clubs which are reported to allow BBBJ with controls and checks by authorities or police is an option that is happening. Take LivingRoom as an example.[/QUOTE]From everything I've heard Living Room is an outlier. And there are lots of reasons other than this new law why clubs might find themselves harassed. Perhaps the club is run, say, by a motorcycle "club" and it's a way of getting at them. Or maybe there is local corruption. There were clubs being harassed at times before the law.
The cause and effect in this case is unclear, but whatever it is it's the exception not the rule, and exceptions are always possible, new law or not.
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[QUOTE=UncleOx;2139025]If anyone want to know what Carla ro looks like, please see attached photo. I think there is 80% resemblance. Haha.[/QUOTE]I didn't see long time at Oase, Carla on last Saturday at Oase.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2139320]So I was trying to book a hotel room for the 25th next month. I see a few that don't have that week available. Is something going on there that so many rooms are pre booked already. I'm trying to find nearest hotel to Oase. As I was trying to get VIP suite at Oase but nobody has gotten back with me as of yet on the price of that. It will be a Sunday that I go any one else plan on going this day we can possibly link up? As I'm leaving Monday to go towards Wurzburg then Bayreuth. See what kind of laudhaus or FKK I can find that way after I enjoy Oase from the time they open until closing.[/QUOTE]The nearest hotels to Oase are Hotel Arkadia (Kind of between service apartment and hotel) and Mecure Hotel Bad Homburg. You can book them from [URL]booking.com[/URL]. I just checked for you. It will be around $80-70 for the night. When you search at [URL]Booking.com.Ty[/URL]pe in city name Friedrichsdolf. It will show all hotels close to Oase.
The VIP suite at Oase I had been quoted as E200 for two HR with Jacuzzi. There are two to three different type of VIP room. You can check with reception to get form price.
Have fun. I will be there on March 3 and 4. Let us know if LU is good. Give us some names of those LU.
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[QUOTE=Deco89;2139039]If I would like to have a threesome for a full hour with lesbo show CIM anal how much will it cost?[/QUOTE]It depends on the club. Most 3 some are generally lame. If you really want an all out lesbo show with double BJs with one working the head & the other working the shaft. Bernds is the best club for 3 some.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2139391] Perhaps the club is run, say, by a motorcycle "club" and it's a way of getting at them. Or maybe there is local corruption. [/QUOTE]Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.
Maybe it was due to open reports about BBBJ. We read that doors were opened and couples were asked to use a condom.
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[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;2139420]Most 3 some are generally lame. If you really want an all out lesbo show with double BJs with one working the head & the other working the shaft. Bernds is the best club for 3 some.[/QUOTE]You my friend have never had your asshole licked while fucking another girl in the mouth🤗. Jk I wouldn't know what that's like. I'm too poor to afford that.
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[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;2139420]It depends on the club. Most 3 some are generally lame. If you really want an all out lesbo show with double BJs with one working the head & the other working the shaft. Bernds is the best club for 3 some.[/QUOTE]Most of the threesome are not worth the money it is just a good way for the girls to work less and get more money, technically the change of the condom is a spirit killer, most of the girls are not very lesbian oriented and will just touch and lick the breast of the other girl, very seldom their pussy. Personally after several attempts I completely stopped it just not worth the money.
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Thursday, 8 February
Made a change to Oase for Thursday of this trip.
The line up for me was hot.
There was a lot of guys. Maybe they are the early guys for the Messe come to set up and do meetings before the conference days. Asians and Turks.
I saw pretty Cosmina looking petite pale blonde Eileen go with a small old black guy. Kinky. I like seeing pale blonde slim pretty girls go with big meaty black men bang white chicks. The black dude lasted in and out the door in 15 minutes tops as I had the clock on the man.
The rooms were busy so there was waits for the rooms.
Hardly any German House Guests.
Just Italian, Ottoman and East Asians. English was the language to communicate.
The line up was to my liking. A nice change to the Sharks line up that is getting stale.
As I said in my Friday Sharks report in its respective threads the Sharks line up has become boring.
I am even considering heading back to World and looking in on Bahama, Rom and Atlanta.
Mainhattan has had its recent reports of how hard it is to get the desired services.
But Oase is good. No need to negotiate services in my experience. Upsell is minimal and actually is it more about ask or a reminder that it's available.
Many times the extras do not come up. I just do it and pay the rate at the end. No surprises really with payment at the end. Always as expected.
No clock watching either too. 5 minutes and sometimes on a longer booking 10 minutes over is okay for many girls.
Maybe not for everyone.
Much to said of the line up again. It will take me a while to work my way through my wish list here.
Girls are friendly. Say Hello, and come over for a kiss and a hug. Not like dismissive prima Donna Sharks brand name girls of which I could name a long list of.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2139634]I saw pretty Cosmina looking petite pale blonde Eileen go with a small old black guy. Kinky. I like seeing pale blonde slim pretty girls go with big meaty black men bang white chicks. The black dude lasted in and out the door in 15 minutes tops as I had the clock on the man.
Hardly any German House Guests.[/QUOTE]By chance, is this former Sharks Cosmina of the Evita and Irina group? Should have had more sessions with her when she was working.
Second comment is sad. Germans are needed to keep the girls in check.
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Cosmina and Irina are out of business. They were not working at Oase. Evita is still at Sharks.
From what hour did you experience a wait for the rooms?
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2139599]You my friend have never had your asshole licked while fucking another girl in the mouth.[/QUOTE]This service is available from the Sharks German girls. Pick the right ones.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2139636]By chance, is this former Sharks Cosmina of the Evita and Irina group? Should have had more sessions with her when she was working.[/QUOTE]Man. Just did her again. She is tight just like Evita and Yra you mean. Love her pussy. She look like Cosmina. She is not Cosmina.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2139676]Man. Just did her again. She is tight just like Evita and Yra you mean. Love her pussy. She look like Cosmina. She is not Cosmina.[/QUOTE]Ah I understand, Eileen that looks like Cosmina. By chance does she have wing tats on her back? I described a girl that looked like Cosmina last week but thought her name was Anna.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2139395]I didn't see long time at Oase, Carla on last Saturday at Oase.[/QUOTE]She is at Oase today, with glasses and new hair color.
Also Michele / Shayen, Suginella now chesnut with less weight on ass, she looks better. Mady ex History. Ch but she broke magic she built there, with her Oase upselling, she should go to Globe. Also long time Alice silicon.
Many long time girls, some ex World. Friendly Juicy. Laura is off for a while, for a better life for her.
Oase is great for breakfast, to relax, and they play Eurosport.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2139634]But Oase is good. No need to negotiate services in my experience. Upsell is minimal and actually is it more about ask or a reminder that it's available.
Many times the extras do not come up. I just do it and pay the rate at the end. No surprises really with payment at the end. Always as expected.
No clock watching either too. 5 minutes and sometimes on a longer booking 10 minutes over is okay for many girls.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I'd advice everyone to negotiate service and to watch the time spent in the room. 10 min over will rarely be accepted.
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Some interesting reports about Oase. I booked hotel in Darmstadt. But I might think about going to Oase one day in my FKK vacation.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2139527]Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps.
Maybe it was due to open reports about BBBJ. We read that doors were opened and couples were asked to use a condom.[/QUOTE]The point is we aren't hearing about this happening at 10 different places, we keep hearing about this same incident ten times.
When there is an outlier we should ask why they are different, and not assume they must be some kind of leading indicator. And especially so when so much time has passed with the law in place.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2139775]The point is we aren't hearing about this happening at 10 different places, we keep hearing about this same incident ten times.
When there is an outlier we should ask why they are different, and not assume they must be some kind of leading indicator. And especially so when so much time has passed with the law in place.[/QUOTE]The "don't post" guys have lost the plot and are not making any sense anymore. Some of these guys will go to their graves with anger "I told them not to post about BBBJ and they would n't listen to me"....
Take just one club Oase; do the math. Roughly 80 girls on average daily, and say 5 blow jobs per day per girl. Conservative estimates. That is 400 per day, and in one month equates to 12 K. Cut it to 10 K to be even more conservative. In the 7 months since the law passed, that is at least 70 K blow jobs at one single big club like Oase.
Do this same math all across the land, you are looking at several million blow jobs in clubs alone. Not to mention, RLDs, Street walkers.
For the don't post crowd to be harking on a few incidents and trying to establish some sort of feeble connection or cause and effect relationship between our comments here to whatever bad stuff they think happened is stretching the boundaries of credulity.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2139685] long time Carla is at Oase today, with glasses and new hair color. Less frog face with her new look .
Also Michele / Shayen , Suginella now chesnut with less weight on ass, she looks better. Mady ex History. Ch but she broke magic she built there, with her Oase upselling, she should go to Globe. Also long time Alice silicon.
Many long time girls, some ex World. Friendly Juicy. Laura is off for a while, for a better life for her.
Oase is great for breakfast, to relax, and they play Eurosport.[/QUOTE]Also Roxana and a blond looking like her older sister. It was nice to see Roxana and Suginella sitting together, reminds me end of 2014 when they turned around together.
Last Saturday, after blond, sweet Stefani. Ro, I discovered on late night because I didn't accept to pay 100 for 30 mn or 150 for 1 hour, good surprise, nice behavior, pretty Vera. Today, I think they spoke about me after my room with Vera, discovery of real beauty Adela who smiled to me for first time, a woman at Oase who likes we take care of her, I asked her if she wanted to repeat at 3 am, usually she doesn't run after business on late night, but she wanted to please me, and she improved in bed, even first room was already enjoyable. Not top NRW level yet, but maybe we can try to improve together when she will return.
I also saw thin Amanda asking 100 for 30 mn or 150 for 1 hour. A pretty girl in day team, saying she has no name, but even in a brothel, even with a prostitute, I can t go with a no name girl. She will have to change her behavior if she wants my business. Also Alexia is possible if her quite big tits are real.
Even I didn t see again a attractive girl with curly light chesnut hair and green eyes, seen last week, but quite good casting with 5 attractive girls for my eyes, not so bad.
Entry 50 before 4 pm. Yellow cat slept with me.
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So just go and do your reports as you wish but don't ask other people to do the same.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2139847]... do ... reports as you wish [/QUOTE]Apologies for continuing this off topic discussion, but I can't resist saying you have made, for me, the perfect principle.
Everybody here has a defensible rationale for their posting approach.
I find the balance of what to report difficult, especially when girls have specifically asked me not to report on compliance or non-compliance with legal requirements. They said that they feared the authorities might close their club down. There was enough worry for one to send me a middle of the night message. Just an anecdote from my limited experience, drawing no conclusions.
I don't suggest they are right, but clearly they were fearful, rightly or wrongly.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2139814]... to be harking on a few incidents and trying to establish some sort of feeble connection or cause and effect relationship between our comments here to whatever bad stuff they think happened is stretching the boundaries of credulity.[/QUOTE]Agreed. You are 100% right that establishing a causal connection is almost impossible. I guess it is possible (I don't say probable) that in the longterm there could (not will) be a connection as RN suggests (authorities using rumours in their selection of which clubs to raid, or future legislation). I have no way of guessing what will happen given the huge variables involved in predicting the future
Just my 2 cents worth
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2139814]The "don't post" guys have lost the plot and are not making any sense anymore. Some of these guys will go to their graves with anger "I told them not to post about BBBJ and they would n't listen to me"....
Take just one club Oase; do the math. Roughly 80 girls on average daily, and say 5 blow jobs per day per girl. Conservative estimates. That is 400 per day, and in one month equates to 12 K. Cut it to 10 K to be even more conservative. In the 7 months since the law passed, that is at least 70 K blow jobs at one single big club like Oase.
Do this same math all across the land, you are looking at several million blow jobs in clubs alone. Not to mention, RLDs, Street walkers.....
All t
For the don't post crowd to be harking on a few incidents and trying to establish some sort of feeble connection or cause and effect relationship between our comments here to whatever bad stuff they think happened is stretching the boundaries of credulity.[/QUOTE]Posting about BBBJ at a club in general may or may not have repercussions but mentioning specific girls right now only causes problems, either for her with the club or her with other girls who want to upsell. Better to be vague and not kiss and tell all of the details, at least until the heat dissipates. But for the sake of the good provider, perhaps you shouldn't rat her out for literally all the world to see.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2139945]Posting about BBBJ at a club in general may or may not have repercussions but mentioning specific girls right now only causes problems, either for her with the club or her with other girls who want to upsell. Better to be vague and not kiss and tell all of the details, at least until the heat dissipates. But for the sake of the good provider, perhaps you shouldnt rat her out for literally all the world to see.[/QUOTE]In all the big clubs all the girls are doing BBBJ for extra or not, nothing have changed and I don't believe that he authorities are caring about that, they have reached their targets all the girls are more or less registered with name, address, phone number, ID card, passport, it will be so easy now to start the controls on taxe income or in the airports when the girls will fly back to Romania the customs officer could get a special info and practise a targeted control of the girls to see if they don't carry more than 10000 euros with them, the usage or not of condoms is really not the main priority for the German authorities but the cash transfer, the income tax yes of course and this will be so easy to do from now on.
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Freedom of Speech
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2139814]The "don't post" guys have lost the plot and are not making any sense anymore. Some of these guys will go to their graves with anger "I told them not to post about BBBJ and they would n't listen to me"....
Take just one club Oase; do the math. Roughly 80 girls on average daily, and say 5 blow jobs per day per girl. Conservative estimates. That is 400 per day, and in one month equates to 12 K. Cut it to 10 K to be even more conservative. In the 7 months since the law passed, that is at least 70 K blow jobs at one single big club like Oase.
Do this same math all across the land, you are looking at several million blow jobs in clubs alone. Not to mention, RLDs, Street walkers.....
For the don't post crowd to be harking on a few incidents and trying to establish some sort of feeble connection or cause and effect relationship between our comments here to whatever bad stuff they think happened is stretching the boundaries of credulity.[/QUOTE]Everyone has freedom of choice. Guys should be free to post all of their BBBJ experiences for the reading pleasure of other mongers. Feel free to name the girls who give you BBBJ. Also feel free to state that such and such club encourages their girls to do BBBJ. I will enjoy reading them for I will know which girls to go to for BBBJ and also which clubs I can expect more BBBJs from. I will read but I won't report accordingly.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2139992]Everyone has freedom of choice. Guys should be free to post all of their BBBJ experiences for the reading pleasure of other mongers. Feel free to name the girls who give you BBBJ. Also feel free to state that such and such club encourages their girls to do BBBJ. I will enjoy reading them for I will know which girls to go to for BBBJ and also which clubs I can expect more BBBJs from. I will read but I won't report accordingly.[/QUOTE]Way to think like a WG. Short term only and only of self. No thought on preserving a good thing and causing issues with good providers, thus screwing her over, others, and yourself in the long run. How hard is it to PM and keep the names out of general circulation for the world to see. But yes freedom of speech comes with freedom to be a selfish prick.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2139993]Way to think like a WG. Short term only and only of self. No thought on preserving a good thing and causing issues with good providers, thus screwing her over, others, and yourself in the long run. How hard is it to PM and keep the names out of general circulation for the world to see. But yes freedom of speech comes with freedom to be a selfish prick.[/QUOTE]Fully agree. I don't get the rationale behind shouting out loud which club is allowing illegal practices.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2139905]Apologies for continuing this off topic discussion, but I can't resist saying you have made, for me, the perfect principle.
Everybody here has a defensible rationale for their posting approach.
I find the balance of what to report difficult, especially when girls have specifically asked me not to report on compliance or non-compliance with legal requirements. They said that they feared the authorities might close their club down. There was enough worry for one to send me a middle of the night message. Just an anecdote from my limited experience, drawing no conclusions.
I don't suggest they are right, but clearly they were fearful, rightly or wrongly.[/QUOTE]The police will close a club because of messages on a forum, no sorry they need evidences to go to the court to get a judgment deciding to close and not only rumors on internet. Who saw any official control of the usage or not of condom since the 1st July, sorry I was so often in the clubs and saw nothing, not 1 policeman and I know why it is just not the target of the new law, the target is to get a exhaustive database of all the prostitutes in Germany, to make them pay more income tax, and to control their capital transfer to mostly Romania. Just let us imagine the custom officer in the airports have access to this database it will be so easy for them to specifically check those girls to see if they are not carrying more than 10000 euros, same possibilities on the borders. What I am saying seems completely unrealistic, let us be pragmatic this will happen obviously it is just a matter of time.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2139634]Made a change to Oase for Thursday of this trip.
The line up for me was hot.
There was a lot of guys. Maybe they are the early guys for the Messe come to set up and do meetings before the conference days. Asians and Turks.
I saw pretty Cosmina looking petite pale blonde Eileen go with a small old black guy. Kinky. I like seeing pale blonde slim pretty girls go with big meaty black men bang white chicks. The black dude lasted in and out the door in 15 minutes tops as I had the clock on the man.
The rooms were busy so there was waits for the rooms.
Hardly any German House Guests.
Just Italian, Ottoman and East Asians. English was the language to communicate.
The line up was to my liking. A nice change to the Sharks line up that is getting stale..[/QUOTE]Are you a shareholder of Oase, or simply the manager? Visited Oase 100+ times and I just can say that the club is on a strong downstream, upsell with most of the girls, also some girls quite aggressive mostly working the day shift, staff is a real nightmare so unfriendly, some days the LU is great but never a girl will stay 10 minutes more in the room with me.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2139993]Way to think like a WG. Short term only and only of self. No thought on preserving a good thing and causing issues with good providers, thus screwing her over, others, and yourself in the long run. How hard is it to PM and keep the names out of general circulation for the world to see. But yes freedom of speech comes with freedom to be a selfish prick.[/QUOTE]Ok, ok I'll share with you and others via pm. Now stop pouting.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2140136]Ok, ok I'll share with you and others via pm. Now stop pouting.[/QUOTE]Call it Reprimanding rather than pouting. Lost in text.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2139945]Posting about BBBJ at a club in general may or may not have repercussions but mentioning specific girls right now only causes problems, either for her with the club or her with other girls who want to upsell. Better to be vague and not kiss and tell all of the details, at least until the heat dissipates. But for the sake of the good provider, perhaps you shouldnt rat her out for literally all the world to see.[/QUOTE]Only causes problems? Show us some evidence of that. Without that, and in a quantity to be significant, it's speculation.
Wait until heat dissipates? What heat? It's been months and months. How much waiting is enough?
And in response to some other posts.
Of course everyone has the "right" to post as they want. (Although local management here has *objected* to guys posting that BB services should not be posted about.).
It's not a question of rights. Nobody is forcefully taking away rights. What is being suggested is that, in fact, self-censorship lowers the value of the board, helps make effective a law that otherwise has no teeth, and ultimately makes such services harder and more expensive to acquire. Those who think posting about BB services is bad for the hobby are wrong. In fact it's not posting about BB services that chips away at the hobby. Ditto for those suggesting only bachkchanneling via messaging.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2140143]Only causes problems? Show us some evidence of that. Without that, and in a quantity to be significant, it's speculation.
Wait until heat dissipates? What heat? It's been months and months. How much waiting is enough?
And in response to some other posts.
Of course everyone has the "right" to post as they want. (Although local management here has *objected* to guys posting that BB services should not be posted about.).
It's not a question of rights. Nobody is forcefully taking away rights. What is being suggested is that, in fact, self-censorship lowers the value of the board, helps make effective a law that otherwise has no teeth, and ultimately makes such services harder and more expensive to acquire. Those who think posting about BB services is bad for the hobby are wrong. In fact it's not posting about BB services that chips away at the hobby. Ditto for those suggesting only bachkchanneling via messaging.[/QUOTE]Plenty of stories of girls being reported by other girls that they do bareback that lead to them getting fired. See reports of Ariana from Sharks in October 2017. Someone on the board wrote that she provided bareback, other girls spread the rumors, she was subsequently fired.
Lucy at Palace Febuary 2017 reported here for being super hot and providing good service 50euro rooms, a unicorn at Palace, 2 weeks later was pressured to withhold services by Palace girls.
Current reports of Mainhattain mafia girls reporting new good service girls for bbbj and suggesting bareback was provided.
Point is, its a taboo topic in the club environment and you're attaching specific girls to those topics. Girls are aware, they surely have shown that they can use it as a tool against other girls in various ways. Just chill out for a while longer until the culture reveals itself.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2140143]in fact, self-censorship ...., helps make effective a law that otherwise has no teeth, and ultimately makes such services harder and more expensive to acquire.[/QUOTE]That's just wrong. It has worked perfectly over the last 20 years on German boards in regards to BB services in the clubs. It's not self-censorship, it is precaution to ensure those services in the future.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2140154]Plenty of stories of girls being reported by other girls that they do bareback that lead to them getting fired. See reports of Ariana from Sharks in October 2017. Someone on the board wrote that she provided bareback, other girls spread the rumors, she was subsequently fired.
Lucy at Palace Febuary 2017 reported here for being super hot and providing good service 50euro rooms, a unicorn at Palace, 2 weeks later was pressured to withhold services by Palace girls.
Current reports of Mainhattain mafia girls reporting new good service girls for bbbj and suggesting bareback was provided.
Point is, its a taboo topic in the club environment and youre attaching specific girls to those topics. Girls are aware, they surely have shown that they can use it as a tool against other girls in various ways. Just chill out for a while longer until the culture reveals itself.[/QUOTE]We all know that the target of many girls especially the oldest one is to give the less possible and to earn the most possible, fortunately there are also girls willing to please and giving good service but those girls are targeted by the mafia groups of veteran one putting them pressure to lower their services and increase their prices. In clubs like World the management has a better control of the things and girls but in Oase or Shark they completely let the girls control everything but we clearly see in which direction both clubs are going.
Less and less senior mongers, more and more tourists and guys with migration background, yesterday at Shark it was a good example what a FKK club should not be.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2139992]Everyone has freedom of choice. Guys should be free to post all of their BBBJ experiences for the reading pleasure of other mongers. Feel free to name the girls who give you BBBJ. Also feel free to state that such and such club encourages their girls to do BBBJ. I will enjoy reading them for I will know which girls to go to for BBBJ and also which clubs I can expect more BBBJs from. I will read but I won't report accordingly.[/QUOTE]Fully online, in Shark or Oase BBBJ is available as before the 1st July, no issue with 90% of the girls mostly included in a hour session sometimes in a 50 euro one. Of course if you go with Brenda for her everything is extra even touching her breast, she has too many asian guys that she is cheating so much. Usually if you choose a average good looking girl you will get far better experience that with the stars who usually are over fucked and not eager to invest in the relation. They prefer one time customer, paying a lot just because they want to fuck a ISG forum Star.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2140143]It's not a question of rights. Nobody is forcefully taking away rights. What is being suggested is that, in fact, self-censorship lowers the value of the board, helps make effective a law that otherwise has no teeth, and ultimately makes such services harder and more expensive to acquire. Those who think posting about BB services is bad for the hobby are wrong. In fact it's not posting about BB services that chips away at the hobby. Ditto for those suggesting only bachkchanneling via messaging.[/QUOTE]What do you think about guys posting that they have done bare back full sex in the club where they have done so? That would be entertaining for readers wouldn't it?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2140332]What do you think about guys posting that they have done bare back full sex in the club where they have done so? That would be entertaining for readers wouldn't it?[/QUOTE]Well, some forums who solely exist on the premise of discussing Bareback are still in existance. Entertaining or not, they have an audience.
Does that make it easier for authorities to go after those guys "breaking the rules"? Of course, this makes it trivially easy. But will forums like that cease to exist. I think not. That said, a little reporting about BBBJ here on this board may not be the smartest move but it doesn't relevantly factor into the problem. As long as ISG has no policy on it, I guess, we cannot forbid anyone to say it out loud.
Establishing some kind of code would be better, maybe, but who will becone the codemaster?
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2140351]Well, some forums who solely exist on the premise of discussing Bareback are still in existance. Entertaining or not, they have an audience.
Does that make it easier for authorities to go after those guys "breaking the rules"? Of course, this makes it trivially easy. But will forums like that cease to exist. I think not. That said, a little reporting about BBBJ here on this board may not be the smartest move but it doesn't relevantly factor into the problem. As long as ISG has no policy on it, I guess, we cannot forbid anyone to say it out loud.
Establishing some kind of code would be better, maybe, but who will becone the codemaster?[/QUOTE]Are the authorities willing to go against BBBJ obviously not, it is just not the target of the new law, don t mix fantasy and reality, the girls can do what they want as long they are registered and paying the income taxes which will strongly increase for most of the girls.
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The law is having an effect. Advertising of bareback in Germany has declined, with some sites carrying adverts now from Austria, forums dedicated to bareback have become shadows of their former selves, adverts very often now do not show addresses, girls are being registered and instructed about safe sex, prices for bareback are rising signficantly in some places, and some workers have left the business.
Future effects of the law cannot be known, but possibilities range from none beyond those already seen, to closure of clubs known to be facilitating illegal activities. For example a political storm could erupt as a result of an "investigative" reporter getting a scoop story based on internet forums: if I were a feminist reporter trying to make a name I would go for that. Look at the attacks aimed at the charity sector as a result of a scandal around Oxfam, or Weinstein aftereffects. Things are unpredictable: the business of prostitution has plenty of enemies looking for loose threads to latch on to
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2140376]The law is having an effect. Advertising of bareback in Germany has declined, with some sites carrying adverts now from Austria, forums dedicated to bareback have become shadows of their former selves, adverts very often now do not show addresses, girls are being registered and instructed about safe sex, prices for bareback are rising signficantly in some places, and some workers have left the business.
Future effects of the law cannot be known, but possibilities range from none beyond those already seen, to closure of clubs known to be facilitating illegal activities. For example a political storm could erupt as a result of an "investigative" reporter getting a scoop story based on internet forums: if I were a feminist reporter trying to make a name I would go for that. Look at the attacks aimed at the charity sector as a result of a scandal around Oxfam, or Weinstein aftereffects. Things are unpredictable: the business of prostitution has plenty of enemies looking for loose threads to latch on to[/QUOTE]The BM of the big clubs was to keep the demand high and steady by bringing new girls in every week, since January my feeling is that very few new and fresh girls are entering the big clubs in Germany, new girls are coming but mostly no young one, German senior mongers like me we don't like to fuck those kind of girls who were fucked 20000 or more times in their lives we prefer to go to sauna and let them being fucked by the tourists who are not aware about it. Probably you are right in the coming years half of the clubs could close their doors due to different reasons but one could be a lack of fresh girls stimulating the demand of the senior mongers with high level of expectations.
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Basically assumptions are the mother of all fuckups, and we want to avoid handing the wrong people any assumptions. Right or wrong.
A few years ago at Artemis there was one girl who claimed another girl was doing too much in the room. They froze her out even if she hadn't done it. All based on an assumption. Even a wrong one.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2140394]Basically assumptions are the mother of all fuckups, and we want to avoid handing the wrong people any assumptions. Right or wrong.
A few years ago at Artemis there was one girl who claimed another girl was doing too much in the room. They froze her out even if she hadn't done it. All based on an assumption. Even a wrong one.[/QUOTE]But this is happening very often just because you should be aware that some girls are fucking with the managers of the clubs, for example in Oase, Shark or Artemis many girls told me about it but this never happen at World. After that very easy for the girls to push the managers to exit that or that girl who is creating too much competition. FKK clubs are a specific world with very specific rules, it is better that many mongers are not aware about what is behind the scene. The girls are prostitutes earning for some of them huge amount of cash obviously this is attracting a lot of guys around them let us not be too naive, clever and educate girls are not prostitutes or if not a long time. When a girl is more than 2.5 or even 10 years a prostitute believe me there is a big problem somewhere. Just think about your family. Friends. How many girls are prostitutes? Being a prostitutes is not a normal job and is not without strong collateral effects for most of the girls.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138537]Thank you Danny227. Gives me comfort for the future.
I hate competing for girls at Sharks to "complete" as you describe. There seems to be a queue of guys wanting the brand names like Helen, Mandy and Evita at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Typo, I meant compete.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2139634]Made a change to Oase for Thursday of this trip.
The line up for me was hot.
There was a lot of guys. Maybe they are the early guys for the Messe come to set up and do meetings before the conference days. Asians and Turks.
I saw pretty Cosmina looking petite pale blonde Eileen go with a small old black guy. Kinky. I like seeing pale blonde slim pretty girls go with big meaty black men bang white chicks. The black dude lasted in and out the door in 15 minutes tops as I had the clock on the man.
The rooms were busy so there was waits for the rooms.
Hardly any German House Guests.
Just Italian, Ottoman and East Asians. English was the language to communicate.
The line up was to my liking. A nice change to the Sharks line up that is getting stale.
As I said in my Friday Sharks report in its respective threads the Sharks line up has become boring..[/QUOTE]LOL, what are sharks brand names? Have not seen any brands at sharks in a very long time. The thing about Oase, it has not changed from previously, from my experience, as compared to many other clubs. LU and performance is much better than at Sharks ATM. This is highly subjective tho.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2140332]What do you think about guys posting that they have done bare back full sex in the club where they have done so? That would be entertaining for readers wouldn't it?[/QUOTE]I would like more reports and posts about this topic please.
I would find the information more than entertaining especially if the information is actionable information.
Good idea. Thank you for raising the proposal to encourage this reporting.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141128]I would like more reports and posts about this topic please.
I would find the information more than entertaining especially if the information is actionable information.
Good idea. Thank you for raising the proposal to encourage this reporting.[/QUOTE]We all know that nothing have changed since the implementation of the new law just may be a increase in the prices and more upselling and the possibility for the girls to refuse to do BBBJ with no clean or attractive guys that's all. No need to spend hours and hours to speak about that.
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Speaking of bareback. I was offered this on my visit in mid-December for the first time ever. I'm not sure what I've done wrong previously to never have been offered.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2141233]Speaking of bareback. I was offered this on my visit in mid-December for the first time ever. I'm not sure what I've done wrong previously to never have been offered.[/QUOTE]Cool. What else?
Who was she and what did your do? Did you fuck her AO and was it no extra money?
You are a lucky man. Go buy a lottery ticket right now.
Could you surmise what you were doing wrong previously such as asking for a condom or pulling for a condom from her purse since you want to fuck?
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2141233]Speaking of bareback. I was offered this on my visit in mid-December for the first time ever. I'm not sure what I've done wrong previously to never have been offered.[/QUOTE]If you want to stay healthy it is better to refuse it, a little bit more pleasure with a prostitutes is not worth the risk taken, if she propose it to you she has done it to many others. I always refuse it and stop to go with this girl, even I don't want to kiss her anymore or to lick her.
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In the end I decided to not go for it.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2141252]The price was 200 including the normal 50 for 30 minutes. I have no idea if that's fair or not. In the end I decided to not go for it.[/QUOTE]Best decision especially if you have wife or fix GF, too too dangerous and also the risk to transmit some disease to the people you love, little bit additional pleasure not worth it.
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So the extra cost was 150 euros? Better go in a real ao club, it's cheaper.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2141276]So the extra cost was 150 euros? Better go in a real ao club, it's cheaper.[/QUOTE]How did you get 150 bucks when Ararat never mentioned a price tag?
Is that what is in your experience is the price of extra for AO?
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2141252]In the end I decided to not go for it.[/QUOTE]Would you share your reasoning to decline AO?
I know many guys turn it down but the reasons are anything from newbie nerves to I don't have the money. No one seems to raise the issue of disease is the problem.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141283]How did you get 150 bucks when Ararat never mentioned a price tag?
Is that what you pay as extra for AO?[/QUOTE]Ararat edited his post. The original post said 200 e for half hour.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141284]Would you share your reasoning to decline AO?
I know many guys turn it down but the reasons are anything from newbie nerves to I don't have the money. No one seems to raise the issue of disease is the problem.[/QUOTE]For me even for free I will not do it, one time a escort in Stuttgart proposed it to me I refused, my health is more important that some hypothetical additional pleasure, I don't want to do AO with prostitutes, this is something that I keep for me when I am in love, prostitutes are not worth it. Prostitutes are here to be fucked for the less money possible but sometimes guys are forgetting those very simple principal, I always repeat the same if you don't believe they are prostitutes, go to your favorite girls in any big club and tell her sorry today I have no money but I want to go with you to the room, guess what will be the answer. No money no sex for sure.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2141085]LOL, what are sharks brand names? Have not seen any brands at sharks in a very long time. The thing about Oase, it has not changed from previously, from my experience, as compared to many other clubs. LU and performance is much better than at Sharks ATM. This is highly subjective tho.[/QUOTE]I agree, there was a period when Oase girls were pushing for 150 euro hours that turnd me away. That thankfully has subsided and the girls seem happy with 100 euro hours.
For me a 1 HR room at Oase has generally been superior to Sharks' 1 HR rooms. There was something dirtier, more passionate with the Oase girls when they didn't hold back. I preferred Sharks for a while because I knew I was able to try new girls for 50 euro and would get their best before committing to 1 hour rooms. Now with the upselling from 19 and 20 year olds at Sharks, I'm better off spending my 100 euro on girls at Oase, who on average seem to be more sexually apt than the average Sharks teenie bopper.
Plus. All the mirrors in nearly every room.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141283]How did you get 150 bucks when Ararat never mentioned a price tag?
Is that what is in your experience is the price of extra for AO?[/QUOTE]No, the only time I experienced ao in a regular club it was for free, actually I even got a nice little gonorrhea as a bonus.
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Risky game, but usually for free.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2141276]So the extra cost was 150 euros? Better go in a real ao club, it's cheaper.[/QUOTE]No interest at all to be the tenth of the day to bareback fuck a ugly girl at Dietzenbach, or F39 , but if you make cum a beauty with your foreplay, and if she forget the condom, trusting you and running into passion, then the game become interesting, and she doesn't even ask for extra money. On next time, you think she will think it was a mistake, but no condom proposed, and she says: I enjoy more like this. Then, you just have to be very careful for your health, meaning better not to risk with any girl, but only one you can really trust, and better to be careful about pregnancy.
Can be less expensive than 30 € in AO clubs.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2141286]Ararat edited his post. The original post said 200 e for half hour.[/QUOTE]Cool. Now we have a pricing that one can anchor their expectations on.
I have heard all sorts of pricing from free to ridiculous prices. What a Ottoman would paid versus what an Asian would pay versus what an American would pay.
Does not seem a distinct pricing for Europeans. Random. The Youppie boys and our resident ex Youppie poet always boast and take pride about being cheap Charlies.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2141291]No, the only time I experienced ao in a regular club it was for free, actually I even got a nice little gonorrhea as a bonus.[/QUOTE]Nice little reminder.
Always spray your cock and balls at the end of the night with anti fungal or that anti bacterial thing you get at the DM. You know the one. The one that says kills 99.9 percent of bacteria and germs. The label has got to be right.
Given you honest admission forgive me that I will not shake your hand when I meet you next then. No offence given. I have a clean slate and want to keep it that way.
I heard you can get AIDS off toliet seats too. Joking.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141235]Cool. What else?
Who was she and what did your do? Did you fuck her AO and was it no extra money?
You are a lucky man. Go buy a lottery ticket right now.
Could you surmise what you were doing wrong previously such as asking for a condom or pulling for a condom from her purse since you want to fuck?[/QUOTE]s this trolling around or seriously asking for names of girls who do bb?
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Sharks Brand Names
[QUOTE=Danny227;2141085]LOL, what are sharks brand names? Have not seen any brands at sharks in a very long time. The thing about Oase, it has not changed from previously, from my experience, as compared to many other clubs. LU and performance is much better than at Sharks ATM. This is highly subjective tho.[/QUOTE]Danny227,
These Sharks brand names are the girls that men fly half way across the world or the tourists that drive from OWL, NRW, Bayern, BW or Rhineland Pflaz to see a particular girl in Sharks.
These are the girls that men go to Sharks reception asking if Helen or Mandy is working today or can they point out that girl to them. Why.
Ou hear older gents at the bar tipping the bar maid and asking can she tell him which girl is Mandy or Evita?
These are the girls whose names are repeated over and over again by reporters asking about Mandy, Helen and Evita.
I agree that Oase is where it is at now. My euro bucks are coming to Oase.
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Takedown's take
[QUOTE=Takedown;2141290]I agree, there was a period when Oase girls were pushing for 150 euro hours that turnd me away. That thankfully has subsided and the girls seem happy with 100 euro hours.
For me a 1 HR room at Oase has generally been superior to Sharks' 1 HR rooms. There was something dirtier, more passionate with the Oase girls when they didnt hold back. I preferred Sharks for a while because I knew I was able to try new girls for 50 euro and would get their best before commiting to 1 hour rooms. Now with the upselling from 19 and 20 year olds at Sharks, I'm better off spending my 100 euro on girls at Oase, who on average seem to be more sexually apt than the average Sharks teenie bopper.
Plus. All the mirrors in nearly every room😇.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. Hey, I have been there, man.
Sharks sessions feel so clinical. The Oase sessions feel like you are dealing to a girlfriend. No words and no "No". Oase girls do not in general feel like they hold back their services like a Shark does. I can get lost into the session whereas the Sharks sessions I can feel my myself counting down the bucks I need to pay for the session as the price totes up in the market.
Sharks does have a lot of teens, if you like that sort of look, but they are not the best quality for looks. The Sharks pole dancers, although older on average than the teenie boppers are much better lookers in my opinion. That is why the Sharks pole dancer group are so popular with the Ottomans and Asians.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141303]Nice little reminder.
Always spray your cock and balls at the end of the night with anti fungal or that anti bacterial thing you get at the DM. You know the one. The one that says kills 99.9 percent of bacteria and germs. The label has got to be right.[/QUOTE]You guys are hilarious.
I have seen that very spray in the Sharks toilets by the way. Now I know what it is for.
Anyways all the AO talk has become more intense now since it was recommended to not really discuss it. Truly hilarious.
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Ararat you have great restraint
[QUOTE=Ararat;2141252]In the end I decided to not go for it.[/QUOTE]Ararat you have great restraint. Total respect.
I remember when there was a big disease with a little name: AIDS when it came out. There was a discussion among concerned citizens of the polis who all swore on oath that for all their sexual needs they would be using rubbers like they were the manna from heaven.
I was sat with my Dad who was a practical man. Little schooling but he was a realist. He heard this and was disgusted.
Then there was one smooth dude with the threads that make him look like the Don Johnson from the Miami Vice TV show. This man he say, this is all BS. What they fuck are you all smoking? This man say if in the heat of the night you have some lady open her legs to you, your cock is turning purple from its blood engorgement as it is so excited and she ask you to do it and you are going to say no? You are going to say sorry I need to go get a condom.
Great restraint is all I say. Man made in His image.
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It's notable that other than the one reported raid that gets repeated over and over again, other reports of the impact of this new law do not actually involve the police.
Yes, of course some of the women who choose to not provide AO, or even BBBJ, are going to pressure and give a hard time to women who do. **They have always done this. Even before the new law. ** They put themselves at a competitive disadvantage, and rather than upping their game, they choose to drag the service of other girls down. Our favorite girls get yelled at by their inferiors for "doing too much. " They always have.
On German boards attitudes are split. Some tell other posters to not talk about BBBJ or AO. Some post freely. And then they argue about it. The Germans are split on this just like the Americans. This should not be surprising. They have no patent on insight or data.
To the extent that local management gets a say in this, they have occasionally posted that they don't want posters to tell other posters to not post about BB services.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2141290]I agree, there was a period when Oase girls were pushing for 150 euro hours that turnd me away. That thankfully has subsided and the girls seem happy with 100 euro hours.
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Plus. All the mirrors in nearly every room😇.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, I now remembering 2017 Oase. One ambitious teenie I ask her name. She snarl, share no name, and just say "100 euro pay first 30 minute." Such poor attitude, likely possible worse when in room (as in 100 euro and then she try to leave after 5 minute). Small amount of other girl demanding to pay before entering room, declined. Now in February 2018, I do not see these girl with such bad manner at Oase. Hope they have retire for good from all FKK.
Yes, so many mirror at Oase really enhance the experience, especially when receive double oral from two beautiful girl.
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MonSooner
[QUOTE=MonSooner;2141319]You guys are hilarious. I have seen that very spray in the Sharks toilets by the way. Now I know what it is for.
Anyways all the AO talk has become more intense now since it was recommended to not really discuss it. Truly hilarious.[/QUOTE]MonSooner,
We aim to please and entertain you. Keep safe out there.
Lastly, please reconcile your last paragraph's comment with what Neurosynth has to say below:
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2141327] To the extent that local management gets a say in this, they have occasionally posted that they don't want posters to tell other posters to not post about BB services.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2141293]No interest at all to be the tenth of the day to bareback fuck a ugly girl at Dietzenbach.[/QUOTE]I would not want to be the tenth of the day either, being number fifteen or twenty is much more enjoyable :D
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141128]I would like more reports and posts about this topic please.
[/QUOTE]I was offered this highly desired personalized service at Oase on my first visit there in 2016 when I could not cum in the the condom. She told me 500 e and I was not interested finally she came down to 200 e. I have no clue if this meant 200 e total for the session including the 50 e room for a half and half or 250 e total.
In the event Oase becomes an Adult Day Care Center for the Affluent and Distinguished Gentlemen than I too would like to hear more about this topic.
AO was also offered at Artemis but declined (think she asked for 1000 e) and AO was also offered and perhaps enjoyed with one or two girls at Mainhatten.
However I can not provide reports nor names for the privacy of those that may have been a participant in a latex free session.
Or two or three.
Maybe four.
Both the 500 e initial offer at Oase and the 1000 e offer at Artemis happened on my very first visit to Germany and I remembered I answered ' yes' to the ' Is this your first time here' question they always ask. They were looking for a big pay day.
But it also leads me to assume with those offers that AO goes on constant and often at all clubs where Johns fuck the Classy and Elegant version of the Gypsies.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2141327]It's notable that other than the one reported raid that gets repeated over and over again, other reports of the impact of this new law do not actually involve the police.
Yes, of course some of the women who choose to not provide AO, or even BBBJ, are going to pressure and give a hard time to women who do. **They have always done this. Even before the new law. ** They put themselves at a competitive disadvantage, and rather than upping their game, they choose to drag the service of other girls down. Our favorite girls get yelled at by their inferiors for "doing too much. " They always have.[/QUOTE]The enforceability of the law itself is not the biggest issue.
The fact that it is an actual law rather than just club policy, with the clubs now actually having some legal liability, combined with the fact that there are explicit signs in FKKs all over Germany, it’s in the forefront of the girls’ minds. Breaking the Kondompflicht is used by competing WGs more ferociously.
The effect is not science its not common sense.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2141396]I would not want to be the tenth of the day either, being number fifteen or twenty is much more enjoyable :D
I was offered this highly desired personalized service at Oase on my first visit there in 2016 when I could not cum in the the condom. She told me 500 e and I was not interested finally she came down to 200 e. I have no clue if this meant 200 e total for the session including the 50 e room for a half and half or 250 e total.
In the event Oase becomes an Adult Day Care Center for the Affluent and Distinguished Gentlemen than I too would like to hear more about this topic.
AO was also offered at Artemis but declined (think she asked for 1000 e) and AO was also offered and perhaps enjoyed with one or two girls at Mainhatten.
However I can not provide reports nor names for the privacy of those that may have been a participant in a latex free session.
Or two or three.
Maybe four.
Both the 500 e initial offer at Oase and the 1000 e offer at Artemis happened on my very first visit to Germany and I remembered I answered ' yes' to the ' Is this your first time here' question they always ask. They were looking for a big pay day.
But it also leads me to assume with those offers that AO goes on constant and often at all clubs where Johns fuck the Classy and Elegant version of the Gypsies.[/QUOTE]AO was and is still available everywhere but only offered by the most stupid and desperate girls, now it is your choice to put your health at high risk, I will not do it my life is far more important that the little bit more pleasure to fuck a prostitute.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141318]I know what you mean. Hey, I have been there, man.
Sharks sessions feel so clinical. The Oase sessions feel like you are dealing to a girlfriend. No words and no "No". Oase girls do not in general feel like they hold back their services like a Shark does. I can get lost into the session whereas the Sharks sessions I can feel my myself counting down the bucks I need to pay for the session as the price totes up in the market.
Sharks does have a lot of teens, if you like that sort of look, but they are not the best quality for looks. The Sharks pole dancers, although older on average than the teenie boppers are much better lookers in my opinion. That is why the Sharks pole dancer group are so popular with the Ottomans and Asians.[/QUOTE]Shark has a lot of teens, are you joking, there a very few girls under 20 believe me I checked it with the receptionist, the sessions are the same in Oase and Shark it just depends on the chemistry between the people. Mostly it is difficult to get the same quality of sex with a prostitutes than with your wife or GF just because the most important thing is missing love which boost the emotions and sex is in the mind. After so many years I am only getting great sex with a young German escort, but we meet every week and each time it is better but obviously nothing the compare with the sex in a club, the girls just sex too much every day to keep some freshness, imagine you can fuck for free so much you want your favorite in a club I am sure that after several days you will get bored.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2141327]On German boards attitudes are split. Some tell other posters to not talk about BBBJ or AO. Some post freely. And then they argue about it. The Germans are split on this just like the Americans. This should not be surprising. They have no patent on insight or data.[/QUOTE]Not really. It is a little more complicated. Most "serious" boards have a strict policy to comply with the law and not post about BB services (BBBJ or BB) anymore. Those are the majority. So a report will say blowjob and that is it. As the law is CBJ it must have been that. There are boards with non public sections. In those you find reports about BB and BBBJ. Makes sense for me.
There are a few "AO" boards who never cared about the girls and openly posted (and still post) about BB services. Full BB and BBBJ. Causing trouble for girls and forum members as well. If you look at the level of discussion and choice of words plus the level of moderation you will see that those boards are crap.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141318]Sharks sessions feel so clinical. The Oase sessions feel like you are dealing to a girlfriend. No words and no "No". Oase girls do not in general feel like they hold back their services like a Shark does. I can get lost into the session whereas the Sharks sessions I can feel my myself counting down the bucks I need to pay for the session as the price totes up in the market.[/QUOTE]Nothing to generalize about. [B]Oase service levels are not any better than Sharks. [/B]Lots of girls trying to cut down service time to 15 min or telling you the standard session 50 EUR /30 min does NOT include kissing, DFK or DATY, it is just BJ and sex. They will try to sell you half an hour for 100 EUR or at least get an extra sold in the 30 min session.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2141315]Danny227,
These Sharks brand names are the girls that men fly half way across the world or the tourists that drive from OWL, NRW, Bayern, BW or Rhineland Pflaz to see a particular girl in Sharks.
These are the girls that men go to Sharks reception asking if Helen or Mandy is working today or can they point out that girl to them. Why.
Ou hear older gents at the bar tipping the bar maid and asking can she tell him which girl is Mandy or Evita?
These are the girls whose names are repeated over and over again by reporters asking about Mandy, Helen and Evita.
I agree that Oase is where it is at now. My euro bucks are coming to Oase.[/QUOTE]Slightly disagree on the definition of brand name; I don't think that the girls that people drive for are all brand names, and but some are. For me Mandy service is not amazing, but she gives it all for 50 E and she is quite beautiful. Her skill level is not in the same ball park as Evita.
Evita is super service, super illusion and falls under brand name, but not many left at Sharks that are like Evita, if at all. Nothing comes to mind now.
Sharks became a collection of good looking mediocre girls in terms of service. The natural service culture changed and with so many girls coming from clubs across Germany. Each bringing a different service mentality. Sharks lost a bit of its personality (for example, oase we know what we get, we know palace, we know GT, we know Artemis) and turned in to a huge metropolitan city, hosting a tone of cultures. This is just my two cents.
Plus service level in the kitchen and bar is declining.
I know my answer is a bit more than discussed, but overall, yep, I don't visit sharks anymore as much, so I agree.
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Girls at the "respectable" clubs like Oase who are believed by the management to do bareback or deal / take drugs have been bundled out of the clubs immediately, given only minutes to collect their belongings and leave. I have seen this several times, on two occasions I was actually with a girl who was evicted :( The new law and the political climate engendering the law, (the probability that the law is largely unenforcible in relation to the individual customers is a red herring) increase the incentives for the clubs to be seen as respectable and remove any hint of barebacking.
Like drug use, it will go on, but no girl or club will want to be identified with it (unless some bright spark works out a business opportunity to be made by challenging the law).
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2141497]Nothing to generalize about. [B]Oase service levels are not any better than Sharks. [/B]Lots of girls trying to cut down service time to 15 min or telling you the standard session 50 EUR /30 min does NOT include kissing, DFK or DATY, it is just BJ and sex. They will try to sell you half an hour for 100 EUR or at least get an extra sold in the 30 min session.[/QUOTE]I agree that 50 euro sessions at Oase suck, as much if not worse than at Sharks. However I think Bitumen and I were both reflecting on the fact that the average 1 HR room at Oase is superior than Sharks. Something about either the club itself or the current girls is dirtier in a good way.
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Idk if there is a big difference between Darmstadt and Burgholzhausen regarding service levels in a 100€/60 min session. Depends on the girl. Not so much the location.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2141505]Slightly disagree on the definition of brand name; I don't think that the girls that people drive for are all brand names, and but some are. For me Mandy service is not amazing, but she gives it all for 50 E and she is quite beautiful. Her skill level is not in the same ball park as Evita.
Evita is super service, super illusion and falls under brand name, but not many left at Sharks that are like Evita, if at all. Nothing comes to mind now.
Sharks became a collection of good looking mediocre girls in terms of service. The natural service culture changed and with so many girls coming from clubs across Germany. Each bringing a different service mentality. Sharks lost a bit of its personality (for example, oase we know what we get, we know palace, we know GT, we know Artemis) and turned in to a huge metropolitan city, hosting a tone of cultures. This is just my two cents.
Plus service level in the kitchen and bar is declining.
I know my answer is a bit more than discussed, but overall, yep, I don't visit sharks anymore as much, so I agree.[/QUOTE]The service level is going down everywhere just because it is always the same girls moving from 1 club to another and trying to reduce their service level but never forgetting to suck our cash. If a new girl is giving too much immediately the other girls will push her to reduce the service level, the girls have 0 respect for their clients, we just buy illusions nothing more. Are you aware how many girls are fucking even they have their red days? Sorry if they respect us they will not do it.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2141497]Nothing to generalize about. [B]Oase service levels are not any better than Sharks. [/B]Lots of girls trying to cut down service time to 15 min or telling you the standard session 50 EUR /30 min does NOT include kissing, DFK or DATY, it is just BJ and sex. They will try to sell you half an hour for 100 EUR or at least get an extra sold in the 30 min session.[/QUOTE]Your report reflects exactly my own experience, difficult to get something nice for 50 euro, most of the girls are pushing a lot for extra this club is following Palace and Manhattan, for me just a no go club until the management will regain the control of the things but I seriously doubt about it.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2141327]....On German boards attitudes are split. Some tell other posters to not talk about BBBJ or AO. Some post freely. And then they argue about it. The Germans are split on this just like the Americans. This should not be surprising. They have no patent on insight or data. To the extent that local management gets a say in this, they have occasionally posted that they don't want posters to tell other posters to not post about BB services.[/QUOTE]I must commend ISG posters. So much talk about BBBJ and BBFS but no mention of girls' names nor clubs. Very entertaining and responsible. I am old enough to have had hundreds of bare back full sex sessions with working girls prior to the 80's. Then AIDS came around and I reluctantly had to cover up to protect my health. Now there is a law in Germany about no BBBJ and here I am in Brazil getting tons of BBBJ and as much DFK as I can stand. Still looking forward to visiting FKKland later this year though.
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Anyone seen Elizabeth HUN lately? Have not seen her for a while. On a side note, Adele is in ROM and should be back next week.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2141396]But it also leads me to assume with those offers that AO goes on constant and often at all clubs where Johns fuck the Classy and Elegant version of the Gypsies.[/QUOTE]Happens in all FKK Sauna establishments including all the MEGA-clubs. Girls hold onto regular and well paying customers by providing this service.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2141790] Girls hold onto regular and well paying customers by providing this service.[/QUOTE]I agree it goes on everywhere.
And they also use it to steal other girls clients especially if it is a high roller. Seems no different than any other market anywhere. There will always be a segment of guys in any locale or venue that desire bareback sex and there will always be a WG to soak up the profits from such desires.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2141767]Anyone seen Elizabeth HUN lately? Have not seen her for a while. On a side note, Adele is in ROM and should be back next week.[/QUOTE]I didn't see Elizabet. Hu on 2 last Saturday, but I saw Adela, far prettier for me.
Some good surprises, more for behavior than performances. After a great breakfast, Oase is becoming enjoyable about few attractive girls.
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About the service Oase-Sharks discussion. Sharks used to be slightly above in average. But some of the new sharks girls lately are below the average Oase girl. Then again, there are still great sharks providers, so average is hard to work out. So I am also leaning towards this being a girl by girl case rather than a club by club case. For the time being at least.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2138926]Is this Christina, small ROM, dark or Brunette, long hair, have a cross tattoo? I thought she has a very nice body. Though I don't normally take her, she always smile and say Hi to me. A very nice gal with no pressure outside the room.[/QUOTE]I spent several hours with her on 2 separate occasions at Oase. She was kind of upselly but I had cash to burn and I find 19 year old with her body type irresistible. And her blowjob skills were some of the best I have ever experienced.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2141748]I must commend ISG posters. So much talk about BBBJ and BBFS but no mention of girls' names nor clubs. Very entertaining and responsible. I am old enough to have had hundreds of bare back full sex sessions with working girls prior to the 80's. Then AIDS came around and I reluctantly had to cover up to protect my health. Now there is a law in Germany about no BBBJ and here I am in Brazil getting tons of BBBJ and as much DFK as I can stand. Still looking forward to visiting FKKland later this year though.[/QUOTE]But Turgid, if you read carefully you will see several clubs are mentioned.
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Guys,
Has anyone seen Kathy lately?
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2141790]Happens in all FKK Sauna establishments including all the MEGA-clubs. Girls hold onto regular and well paying customers by providing this service.[/QUOTE]True and it is showing how stupid the girls are, and also the mongers, paying more to get the risk to be sick it is a real nonsense.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2141666]I agree that 50 euro sessions at Oase suck, as much if not worse than at Sharks. However I think Bitumen and I were both reflecting on the fact that the average 1 HR room at Oase is superior than Sharks. Something about either the club itself or the current girls is dirtier in a good way.[/QUOTE]Absolutely.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2141790]Happens in all FKK Sauna establishments including all the MEGA-clubs. Girls hold onto regular and well paying customers by providing this service.[/QUOTE]Of course and there isn't even anything wrong with it because it is normal. But it has never been offered to me, NEVER. That's why it is weird to me that I often hear people were offered it. Probably the girls find it unnecessary to offer it because I am easy like that.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2141989]Of course and there isn't even anything wrong with it because it is normal. But it has never been offered to me, NEVER. That's why it is weird to me that I often hear people were offered it. Probably the girls find it unnecessary to offer it because I am easy like that.[/QUOTE]Never offer to me too, but if you ask you can get it, that is for sure but probably not with the youngest and prettiest one, the girls who propose it are mostly desperate.
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Thanks for the info about Elizabeth Siri.
Kathy = Kati (ex World Britney?) She is still back in ROM and doesn't really know when she wants to come back. She took many months off last time when she was home too.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2141767]Anyone seen Elizabeth HUN lately? Have not seen her for a while. On a side note, Adele is in ROM and should be back next week.[/QUOTE]How is the service level from Adele?
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2141791]I agree it goes on everywhere. And they also use it to steal other girls clients especially if it is a high roller. Seems no different than any other market anywhere. There will always be a segment of guys in any locale or venue that desire bareback sex and there will always be a WG to soak up the profits from such desires.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2141989]Of course and there isn't even anything wrong with it because it is normal. But it has never been offered to me, NEVER. That's why it is weird to me that I often hear people were offered it. Probably the girls find it unnecessary to offer it because I am easy like that.[/QUOTE]Got to say [B]KK[/B] even the best looking girls in the club will try to keep repeat business, specially if their customer is easy to manage and prepared to drop several hundred euros per visit, be that visit once a week or once a month or maybe even more often! Money in the [B]Bank of WG[/B] so to speak and not necessarily any WG, sometimes the top girls if the regular financial inducement is of sufficient interest. That said the downside of this type of arrangement can be that the [B]Money Guy[/B] probably will have to treat his WG like a [B]Club Wife[/B] and remain "faithful" to her and not stray when in the club, else his [B]WG Wifey[/B] might withdraw special privileges! My experience anyway! Dames differ I guess and so not possible to generalize but the scenario is not uncommon.
[B]Massimo P[/B] I got to agree with you when you say "normal" as I would imagine it rather hard to resist a top notch WG, if she's making eyes at you and more importantly making you special offers! Whats a poor guy (well actually a guy with enough cash) to do! So no frowns from me if someone takes up this type of special deal. Do I detect a hint of disapproval there [B]Kosher K[/B]? That said, and like you and Massimo P, I can't say that I've had many of these offers myself as I prefer to butterfly with this type of lady but friends / acquaintances have been on the receiving end of a deal or two of this type.
Anyway, I think we are all more or less on the same page with this one!
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2142172]Got to say [B]KK[/B] even the best looking girls in the club will try to keep repeat business, specially if their customer is easy to manage and prepared to drop several hundred euros per visit, be that visit once a week or once a month or maybe even more often! Money in the [B]Bank of WG[/B] so to speak and not necessarily any WG, sometimes the top girls if the regular financial inducement is of sufficient interest. That said the downside of this type of arrangement can be that the [B]Money Guy[/B] probably will have to treat his WG like a [B]Club Wife[/B] and remain "faithful" to her and not stray when in the club, else his [B]WG Wifey[/B] might withdraw special privileges! My experience anyway! Dames differ I guess and so not possible to generalize but the scenario is not uncommon.
[B]Massimo P[/B] I got to agree with you when you say "normal" as I would imagine it rather hard to resist a top notch WG, if she's making eyes at you and more importantly making you special offers! Whats a poor guy (well actually a guy with enough cash) to do! So no frowns from me if someone takes up this type of special deal. Do I detect a hint of disapproval there [B]Kosher K[/B]? That said, and like you and Massimo P, I can't say that I've had many of these offers myself as I prefer to butterfly with this type of lady but friends / acquaintances have been on the receiving end of a deal or two of this type.
Anyway, I think we are all more or less on the same page with this one![/QUOTE]The girls are fucked so many times every days why should the guys stick to his favorite in the club, not long ago one girl told me at Oase that I have only to go with her, my answer was just okay but you do the same, but that is my job, I told her this is not a job to get fucked every day by every one putting 50 eur on the table. She stopped putting pressure on me and I stopped to go to the room with her as simple as that.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2142172]Got to say [B]KK[/B] even the best looking girls in the club will try to keep repeat business, specially if their customer is easy to manage and prepared to drop several hundred euros per visit, be that visit once a week or once a month or maybe even more often! Money in the [B]Bank of WG[/B] so to speak and not necessarily any WG, sometimes the top girls if the regular financial inducement is of sufficient interest. That said the downside of this type of arrangement can be that the [B]Money Guy[/B] probably will have to treat his WG like a [B]Club Wife[/B] and remain "faithful" to her and not stray when in the club, else his [B]WG Wifey[/B] might withdraw special privileges! My experience anyway! Dames differ I guess and so not possible to generalize but the scenario is not uncommon.
[B]Massimo P[/B] I got to agree with you when you say "normal" as I would imagine it rather hard to resist a top notch WG, if she's making eyes at you and more importantly making you special offers! Whats a poor guy (well actually a guy with enough cash) to do! So no frowns from me if someone takes up this type of special deal. Do I detect a hint of disapproval there [B]Kosher K[/B]? That said, and like you and Massimo P, I can't say that I've had many of these offers myself as I prefer to butterfly with this type of lady but friends / acquaintances have been on the receiving end of a deal or two of this type.
Anyway, I think we are all more or less on the same page with this one![/QUOTE]The girls are fucked so many times every days why should the guys stick to his favorite in the club, not long ago one girl told me at Oase that I have only to go with her, my answer was just okay but you do the same, but that is my job, I told her this is not a job to get fucked every day by every one putting 50 eur on the table. She stopped putting pressure on me and I stopped to go to the room with her as simple as that. I am getting more and more upset by those prostitutes who are not to stay where they are that means on the bottom level of the society, everywhere you go starting in Roumania a prostitute is really badly considered which on 1 side makes some sense. They are always trying to cheat, you can t believe what they say, my mother is sick, I need to pay the loan. Please give me money.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2142172] the downside of this type of arrangement can be that the [B]Money Guy[/B] probably will have to treat his WG like a [B]Club Wife[/B] and remain "faithful" to her and not stray when in the club, else his [B]WG Wifey[/B] might withdraw special privileges! My experience anyway! Dames differ I guess and so not possible to generalize but the scenario is not uncommon.[/QUOTE]This happens all the time, yet it is the one thing I cannot completely understand with girls in FKK's. Basically a girl whom you have been with many times, or a few times at least, and then skip for a few visits while she sees you with someone else can suddenly tell you no if you want to repeat with her again. As if she is trying to make some sort of point. But economically it makes zero sense to her as that basically shuts of potential money going forward. Some claim the girls also gets emotionally attached. Maybe. But that is one big maybe. I just do not completely understand this in every case.
Had a girl telling me 'we go now, or I don't ever go with you again' on my last trip. And I've heard the same in the past a few times also. And it seems these things happen to other guys also. One thing is that we are men and can't fuck every hour. Another thing is that we are not married. If they want the marriage but we refuse, then will they also say no to our money? And if they want the marriage and we say yes, shouldn't that give us free sex outside of the FKK? LOL.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2142275]Basically a girl whom you have been with many times, or a few times at least, and then skip for a few visits while she sees you with someone else can suddenly tell you no if you want to repeat with her again. As if she is trying to make some sort of point. But economically it makes zero sense to her as that basically shuts of potential money going forward. Some claim the girls also gets emotionally attached. Maybe. [/QUOTE]Well, I can give you one explanation. There was a girl in one of the Hessen clubs whom I always had 2-3 hour sessions with every time I visited that club. Then, during one of my visits, she arrived late and so I took another girl. This new girl was so good I spent the whole afternoon with her. And I took this new girl again for a long time the next day.
In my next visit the following week, the new girl had left the club. When I approached my old regular, she refused to speak to me again. That shut her out from an assured stream of future income. It was certainly not emotional attachment, and she was not making a point. I found out from another girl (and verified this with other girls) that she had to reject me out of pride, and embarrassment among her friends that I had preferred someone else to her. So she told the other girls: "I can do without him".
But this was a rare exception. In other cases where I skipped a regular 'wife', they would come back with increased fervour in subsequent visits to regain my favour so as to be assured of their income stream.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2142598]Well, I can give you one explanation. There was a girl in one of the Hessen clubs whom I always had 2-3 hour sessions with every time I visited that club. Then, during one of my visits, she arrived late and so I took another girl. This new girl was so good I spent the whole afternoon with her. And I took this new girl again for a long time the next day.
In my next visit the following week, the new girl had left the club. When I approached my old regular, she refused to speak to me again. That shut her out from an assured stream of future income. It was certainly not emotional attachment, and she was not making a point. I found out from another girl (and verified this with other girls) that she had to reject me out of pride, and embarrassment among her friends that I had preferred someone else to her. So she told the other girls: "I can do without him".
But this was a rare exception. In other cases where I skipped a regular 'wife', they would come back with increased fervour in subsequent visits to regain my favour so as to be assured of their income stream.[/QUOTE]Probably your club could be World, very good example demonstrating again how stupid those Romanian prostitutes are. They get fucked every day many times for some in theirs 3 wholes but they deny the right for their clients to session other girls, I always immediately blacklist those kind of girl a no go for me.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2142275]This happens all the time, yet it is the one thing I cannot completely understand with girls in FKK's. Basically a girl whom you have been with many times, or a few times at least, and then skip for a few visits while she sees you with someone else can suddenly tell you no if you want to repeat with her again. As if she is trying to make some sort of point. But economically it makes zero sense to her as that basically shuts of potential money going forward. Some claim the girls also gets emotionally attached. Maybe. But that is one big maybe. I just do not completely understand this in every case.
Had a girl telling me 'we go now, or I don't ever go with you again' on my last trip. And I've heard the same in the past a few times also. And it seems these things happen to other guys also. One thing is that we are men and can't fuck every hour. Another thing is that we are not married. If they want the marriage but we refuse, then will they also say no to our money? And if they want the marriage and we say yes, shouldn't that give us free sex outside of the FKK? LOL.[/QUOTE]Better we don't try to understand everything, those Romanian prostitutes are low educated, they are in the clubs because they are not able to do something else, there is no logic in their actions or behavior, we should never overestimate them. For ages the prostitutes belong to the lowest classes in the the society, it is still the case.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2142275]This happens all the time, yet it is the one thing I cannot completely understand with girls in FKK's. Basically a girl whom you have been with many times, or a few times at least, and then skip for a few visits while she sees you with someone else can suddenly tell you no if you want to repeat with her again. As if she is trying to make some sort of point. But economically it makes zero sense to her as that basically shuts of potential money going forward. Some claim the girls also gets emotionally attached. Maybe. But that is one big maybe. I just do not completely understand this in every case.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2142598]When I approached my old regular, she refused to speak to me again. That shut her out from an assured stream of future income. It was certainly not emotional attachment, and she was not making a point. I found out from another girl (and verified this with other girls) that she had to reject me out of pride, and embarrassment among her friends that I had preferred someone else to her. So she told the other girls: "I can do without him". But this was a rare exception. In other cases where I skipped a regular 'wife', they would come back with increased fervour in subsequent visits to regain my favour so as to be assured of their income stream.[/QUOTE]Well as they say "there's none so strange as folk! But you do come across all sorts in FKK / Sauna Clubs and all other such "dens of iniquity" or "palaces of pleasure" (depending on your viewpoint)! All sorts; be they those who frequent the clubs or those who work there! Over time I have seen some strange behaviors, from both the guys who visit and from the WGs who work in these establishments and difficult most of the time to figure out what is actually governing any such crazy behavior. In the type of instances we are talking about; hard to know what is going on in the head of a WG when she refuses a high paying customer on the grounds that he went with another club hooker! I've come across this type of occurrence on a number of occasions down through the years and generally speaking I put this behavior down to what is known as saving face which seems to be big driver of emotion in Oriental Culture but lesser understood in the Western Hemisphere. Of course there is always the possibility of some emotional attachment but generally speaking I would guess it more likely that the WG feels that she has been slighted by the Customer because he selected another in front of her WG colleagues! Obviously if the Guy is a regular and high paying customer who has spent a lot of time with the WG some emotional bond may have formed. She may have even formed some sort of emotional attachment to him or (more likely) his money! The girls who work in these clubs tend to come from tough enough backgrounds and may not be emotionally mature enough to handle any form of rejection or disappointment. The clubs themselves can be gossipy / bitchy places where not all girls get along and some WGs may delight in the downfall of another. Probably being put aside for another hooker in front of WG colleagues who you don't particularly like and also the loss of a pile of cash which should rightfully belong to her would put some WGs off their porridge and send them into an angry tailspin. To save face in front of their colleagues they just refuse to go with the customer again! My two cents!
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Sex workers frequently have control issues. This, like sex work itself, can be a side effect of abuse. Sex work is an ongoing opportunity to rerun previous victimization, but this time ending up victorious. Or it could just be a reaction to the vulnerability or self-esteem damage that comes from having sex with large numbers of anonymous men. Nevertheless, control issues among sex workers is common.
Apparent irrationality on the part of sex workers becomes understandable once the control issue is factored in. The need for control will, for example, override profit motive.
So in this example, where a girl gives up apparently good money merely to spite a guy who stopped going with her for a while, it's about control. When the guy decides to stop seeing the girl he has taken control of the situation. And the girl just has to accept it. So when he comes back looking for a good time, the girl now has a chance to take control. She takes control by turning him down, even though it costs her money.
Keep in mind this notion that sex workers are often driven more by control issues than money. It explains a lot.
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Black girls
I will visit Oase in about two weeks from now, this time I would very much to try a black girl, I never went in the room with an ebony. I do not like puffy girls however. Are there around some nice black WGs these days at Oase?
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[QUOTE=Euroknight;2142702]I will visit Oase in about two weeks from now, this time I would very much to try a black girl, I never went in the room with an ebony. I do not like puffy girls however. Are there around some nice black WGs these days at Oase?[/QUOTE]There was a Jamaican girl there 3 weeks ago, 22 YO went to the room also my first black, badly shaved, pussy smelling the none fresh fish definitively a no go for me, but very nice C cup natural.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2142642]Sex workers frequently have control issues. This, like sex work itself, can be a side effect of abuse. Sex work is an ongoing opportunity to rerun previous victimization, but this time ending up victorious. Or it could just be a reaction to the vulnerability or self-esteem damage that comes from having sex with large numbers of anonymous men. Nevertheless, control issues among sex workers is common.
Apparent irrationality on the part of sex workers becomes understandable once the control issue is factored in. The need for control will, for example, override profit motive.
So in this example, where a girl gives up apparently good money merely to spite a guy who stopped going with her for a while, it's about control. When the guy decides to stop seeing the girl he has taken control of the situation. And the girl just has to accept it. So when he comes back looking for a good time, the girl now has a chance to take control. She takes control by turning him down, even though it costs her money.
Keep in mind this notion that sex workers are often driven more by control issues than money. It explains a lot.[/QUOTE]Very interesting approach, I also believe that the prostitutes want to control their regular customer, it is at least one area where they can demonstrate some power otherwise they just open legs or mouth or asswhole and get fucked or penetrated without any control.
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[QUOTE=Euroknight;2142702]I will visit Oase in about two weeks from now, this time I would very much to try a black girl, I never went in the room with an ebony. I do not like puffy girls however. Are there around some nice black WGs these days at Oase?[/QUOTE]It was recently reported here that there are 2 or 3 black girls in Oase. And at least one of them is allegedly very good to session with.
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[QUOTE=Euroknight;2142702]I will visit Oase in about two weeks from now, this time I would very much to try a black girl, I never went in the room with an ebony. I do not like puffy girls however. Are there around some nice black WGs these days at Oase?[/QUOTE]I don't know what "puffy girl" means, but over the last year or so, I had sessions with both Tina and Queen (both from Ghana I believe), and they give excellent service.
There was another girl from Ghana that I got a good session from, with a strange name like "Blessings", but she was not as good looking and I'm not sure she's still there anyway.
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[QUOTE=ReefLostCause;2142796]I don't know what "puffy girl" means, but over the last year or so, I had sessions with both Tina and Queen (both from Ghana I believe), and they give excellent service.
There was another girl from Ghana that I got a good session from, with a strange name like "Blessings", but she was not as good looking and I'm not sure she's still there anyway.[/QUOTE]Yes Teresa from Jamaica is a good recommendation. She provides very good service with DFK and no upselling. Back women provide better of service than most Romania in Osae.
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[QUOTE=Avignon27;2142811]Yes Teresa from Jamaica is a good recommendation. She provides very good service with DFK and no upselling. Back women provide better of service than most Romania in Osae.[/QUOTE]Yes good GFE but not clean enough, bad pussy smell at least with me first time in 12 years, we have to admit that most of the Romanian girls are very clean at least one positive point.
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Danny227, Adele service, depending on her mood, LOL. Though I am more connected with other girls, she is still one of my favorite girl there.
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Refusal By Provider of Regular Well Paying Client
I have my own views regarding a girl who refuses a hitherto regular well paying client. In my very first visit to Rio de Janeiro many years ago I repeated with an extremely hot garota at a terma, then on my third visit there I saw an even hotter garota who I went directly to and avoided the first one, well, the first one pouted as hell. In my fourth visit I chose the first one who unhesitatingly went with me only asking why I did not go with her the previous time. My view is that when the first chosen girl refuses the regular client it means that she has gotten emotionally attached to that client and feels hurt that he avoided her. It means that she would have given up other clients for him in similar circumstances. Her refusal of him is her way of avoiding further heartbreak. Remember they are human.
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[QUOTE=Avignon27;2142811]Yes Teresa from Jamaica is a good recommendation. She provides very good service with DFK and no upselling. Back women provide better of service than most Romania in Osae.[/QUOTE]Exactly. She was delightful and on top of it all she wasn't pushy at any point. She looks great, too.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2142865]Danny227, Adele service, depending on her mood, LOL. Though I am more connected with other girls, she is still one of my favorite girl there.[/QUOTE]I agree. When I saw Adele last time she told me she's retiring from this job and she will not be back. It's funny that she came back.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2142130]Thanks for the info about Elizabeth Siri.
Kathy = Kati (ex World Britney?) She is still back in ROM and doesn't really know when she wants to come back. She took many months off last time when she was home too.[/QUOTE]She's very nice girl but she doesn't like this job. She comes back only when she really needs money.
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[QUOTE=Samcik;2142948]I agree. When I saw Adele last time she told me she's retiring from this job and she will not be back. It's funny that she came back.[/QUOTE]On this time, she said to return home for about 2 weeks, but not to retire. I wish her to stay as long she can at home.
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This Thursday and Friday at Oase.
I showed up on Thursday in the afternoon and was surprised the LU was better than usual for daytime period.
Met a cute girl called Adina, very gentle and a little shy. Very good service and no upsells unless you choose to upsell yourself. Sex is a little mechanical (she looks away, like she's not into it), but overall very good session, would repeat. The second session later on that day was with a tall blonde with a pony tail (sorry forgot the name), very wild in the room, lot of fun to be with. Started slow but session turned into a complete PSE! Made me feel like a movie star. The most fun I've had in a while. I can't wait to see her again. She didn't try to upsell, I was the one to ask to add extras as I was having fun and she was really into it. Providing great service is the best way for a girl to upsell and get repeat business.
Arrived on Friday in the evening and there was a lot more girls than Thursday, I think Oase is a week end place more than weekday (with Mon-Tues. Being the worst). I hung around and had food (both pizza and buffet improved a lot).
Met a cute girl called Marina (Romanian), great service with no ifs or buts was also lots of fun. I was pretty tired by then and spent it hanging around staring at the gorgeous girls walking around before leaving.
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[QUOTE=Samcik;2142949]She's very nice girl but she doesn't like this job. She comes back only when she really needs money.[/QUOTE]It is always the same thing the girls always are saying they don't like this job, in fact it is not a job to get fucked so many times every day, if they don t like why they don t find a job, in Europe the things are going well quite easy to find a job, just because they are too stupid and lazy so easier to open mouth and legs. Unfortunately only very few girls are able to quit to be a prostitutes and to build a life full of self esteem, proud.
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[QUOTE=Samcik;2142949]She's very nice girl but she doesn't like this job. She comes back only when she really needs money.[/QUOTE]She must be the only one. LOL. All others love the job and the money is just a side effect.
Nevertheless Britney / Kati is a good Session. A lot better now than years ago before she had to he boob job.
Tessy (Black Girl, she claims to be from Jamaica) gives great service.
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[QUOTE=Samcik;2142948]I agree. When I saw Adele last time she told me she's retiring from this job and she will not be back. It's funny that she came back.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. I was always afraid to try her. Seems very pleasant out side the room and I got the feeling that it is fake, but now I must try.
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Dora, ex Sharks bar staff
Dora the 20 year, long black haired old ex Sharks bar staff with good English and some German is now working at Oase. She has a friend with similar look as her companion. Dora is recognised by wearing patent red leather high heels, not the usual stripper high heels.
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Adele ro
[QUOTE=Danny227;2143003]Thanks guys. I was always afraid to try her. Seems very pleasant out side the room and I got the feeling that it is fake, but now I must try.[/QUOTE]Adele is recommended. She performs well. Generous with her time when she knows you.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2143102]Dora the 20 year, long black haired old ex Sharks bar staff with good English and some German is now working at Oase. She has a friend with similar look as her companion. Dora is recognised by wearing patent red leather high heels, not the usual stripper high heels.[/QUOTE]Dora, is the Lisa look alike? Strong Blue eyes? Cause that would be amazing!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2142891]I have my own views regarding a girl who refuses a hitherto regular well paying client. In my very first visit to Rio de Janeiro many years ago I repeated with an extremely hot garota at a terma, then on my third visit there I saw an even hotter garota who I went directly to and avoided the first one, well, the first one pouted as hell. In my fourth visit I chose the first one who unhesitatingly went with me only asking why I did not go with her the previous time. My view is that when the first chosen girl refuses the regular client it means that she has gotten emotionally attached to that client and feels hurt that he avoided her. It means that she would have given up other clients for him in similar circumstances. Her refusal of him is her way of avoiding further heartbreak. Remember they are human.[/QUOTE]I'm not interested by Latinas, I'm attracted by Caucasian types, but I agree with you: When you go a few times with a girl, even in brothels, and she doesn't mind knowing you go with other girls, it just means you are not more than money for her, among her other clients.
If your behavior with her value her as a woman, then they all ask: do you go with other girls? Do you behave the same with others? Do you do this with others?
Romanian, French, Russian women are so jealous when they have emotions, not love, but pride to be treated like a GF, saying: Nobody do your foreplay, or manners in clubs. I just discovered some German girls can also be, asking to another girl if I have same way for sex with her, when I said to her I chose only her, I would not return to the other girl, even I miss a bit the other one.
When You stop to go with them, or they discover you go with others, then they become so angry, sometimes losing respect, even insulting, when they were so lovely, so sweet, with so great welcome before.
My experiences with my FKK girls I meet weekly, most don t want I go with other girls and some don t forgive. Better for me to have only 1 favorite per club, and even like this, my LR Eve was told about Kate by a German guy I didn't know, but who need to tell her about me.
All is not about money, even with prostitutes, behind always a woman who hide, but can be woken up, and that is the interesting game to play, to touch the woman. Prostitute behavior is not interesting, then it s time to leave and find a fresh one.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2143213]I'm not interested by Latinas, I'm attracted by Caucasian types, but I agree with you: When you go a few times with a girl, even in brothels, and she doesn't mind knowing you go with other girls, it just means you are not more than money for her, among her other clients.
If your behavior with her value her as a woman, then they all ask: do you go with other girls? Do you behave the same with others? Do you do this with others?
Romanian, French, Russian women are so jealous when they have emotions, not love, but pride to be treated like a GF, saying: Nobody do your foreplay, or manners in clubs. I just discovered some German girls can also be, asking to another girl if I have same way for sex with her, when I said to her I chose only her, I would not return to the other girl, even I miss a bit the other one.
When You stop to go with them, or they discover you go with others, then they become so angry, sometimes losing respect, even insulting, when they were so lovely, so sweet, with so great welcome before.
My experiences with my FKK girls I meet weekly, most don t want I go with other girls and some don t forgive. Better for me to have only 1 favorite per club, and even like this, my LR Eve was told about Kate by a German guy I didn't know, but who need to tell her about me.
All is not about money, even with prostitutes, behind always a woman who hide, but can be woken up, and that is the interesting game to play, to touch the woman. Prostitute behavior is not interesting, then it s time to leave and find a fresh one.[/QUOTE]99% of the girls are just looking after our money, go to your favorite and tell today I have no money but I want to go to the room with you probably she will refuse so you know what is the important for you, personally I never find a girl accepting to go to the room without money but maybe you are the lucky guy. You are too romantic, they.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2143213]I'm not interested by Latinas, I'm attracted by Caucasian types, but I agree with you: When you go a few times with a girl, even in brothels, and she doesn't mind knowing you go with other girls, it just means you are not more than money for her, among her other clients.
If your behavior with her value her as a woman, then they all ask: do you go with other girls? Do you behave the same with others? Do you do this with others?
Romanian, French, Russian women are so jealous when they have emotions, not love, but pride to be treated like a GF, saying: Nobody do your foreplay, or manners in clubs. I just discovered some German girls can also be, asking to another girl if I have same way for sex with her, when I said to her I chose only her, I would not return to the other girl, even I miss a bit the other one.
When You stop to go with them, or they discover you go with others, then they become so angry, sometimes losing respect, even insulting, when they were so lovely, so sweet, with so great welcome before.
My experiences with my FKK girls I meet weekly, most don t want I go with other girls and some don t forgive. Better for me to have only 1 favorite per club, and even like this, my LR Eve was told about Kate by a German guy I didn't know, but who need to tell her about me.
All is not about money, even with prostitutes, behind always a woman who hide, but can be woken up, and that is the interesting game to play, to touch the woman. Prostitute behavior is not interesting, then it s time to leave and find a fresh one.[/QUOTE]They are all prostitutes, 99% of them are just willing to suck our cash, try to fuck her without paying it will probably not be possible so you know what you are for her eyes. If you meet the same girl every week for several hours I think it could be healthier for you to find a real girl friend not a prostitute, the sex with her will be 100 better than to be the 5000 or 15000 or more monger from any prostitutes in a club. The girls are here to be fucked, we should not try to get something more or else.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2143213]If your behavior with her value her as a woman, then she ask: do you go with other girls? Do you behave the same with others? Do you do this with others?
Romanian women are so jealous when they have emotions, not love, but pride to be treated like a GF, saying: Nobody do your foreplay, or manners in clubs.
When You stop to go with them, or they discover you go with others, then they become so angry, sometimes losing respect, even insulting, when they were so lovely, so sweet, with so great welcome before.[/QUOTE]I improve because I was said this on first room on this Saturday, when all her body was shaking, with chicken skin, hard nipples, and looking at me with scared eyes. Fortunately, smiles to finish, and she seemed more self confident when she returned to the lounge after our room. My Romanian looking like a Geisha.
But girls who come to you each time they see you for 1 year, can really change of behavior, when you don't go with them, or when they see you going with another girl. I was said I humiliated one because I refused she kissed me, [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].
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Many times I refused to be kissed by prostitutes, they are actress and they know what you are looking for.
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Dora
[QUOTE=Danny227;2143175]Dora, is the Lisa look alike? Strong Blue eyes? Cause that would be amazing![/QUOTE]No, this Dora has brown eyes. Different girl I am afraid.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2143213]I'm not interested by Latinas, I'm attracted by Caucasian types....[/QUOTE]I am banging many providers in Brazil who have whiter skins and are more caucasian looking than most Romanian girls, especially in Sao Paulo. No upselling and BBBJ and DFK in Brazil are as normal as FS in FKK.
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Any tips for a newcomer wanting to try out FKK Oase?
Hey guys,
FKK is a unique concept that I've never heard of before, and I'm really excited to visit one. I'm visiting Frankfurt this coming weekend, any tips for a first-timer?
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Turgid, where did you go in Sao Paulo? I agree that service in Brazil is top notch. I have visited Bomboa and clinica like Miruna and Brooklin but I find the quality in FKK are much better.
This bartender Dora, is that her real name at the bar at Sharks? I don't remember anyone with that name. I will have to make a visit to Oase to find her, LOL.
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Oase.
My flight is coming up soon for me to visit the great Oase. Has anyone ever traveled with Cialis or Viagra in there luggage without a prescription? I have plenty to bring with me just don't want any issues with having in my luggage an no prescription for them. Staying at the Mercure hotel can't wait to give you guys hopefully live reports while I'm there. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2143650]I am banging many providers in Brazil who have whiter skins and are more caucasian looking than most Romanian girls, especially in Sao Paulo. No upselling and BBBJ and DFK in Brazil are as normal as FS in FKK.[/QUOTE]I don't like Latinas fake moaning, but I love some Romanian woman types sensuality. Romanian girls don't seem so used to foreplay, with their Romanian BF, so, funny to see their reactions, when you caress them. Some can really play your game when they trust you and like you.
DFK and BBBJ without upselling, are standard for me in Germany, with my many Romanian GF met.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2143733]My flight is coming up soon for me to visit the great Oase. Has anyone ever traveled with Cialis or Viagra in there luggage without a prescription? I have plenty to bring with me just don't want any issues with having in my luggage an no prescription for them. Staying at the Mercure hotel can't wait to give you guys hopefully live reports while I'm there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I never have any issue. However, I only carry what I need for the trip. If you have case of that, you need to be careful.
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Another newcomer question.
I have a layover Thursday in Frankfurt and am planning on going to either Sharks or Oase. Are there recommended black or Asian woman currently in the Oase LU?
Thank you in advance.
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The Oase cat
[QUOTE=Aadakodaa;2143703]Hey guys,
FKK is a unique concept that I've never heard of before, and I'm really excited to visit one. I'm visiting Frankfurt this coming weekend, any tips for a first-timer?[/QUOTE]Respect the Oase cat (yellow and white) since it can scratch you when you pet it. The cat is seen sleeping in the relax room with the tired men a lot.
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Asian woman at Oase
[QUOTE=Namelessperson;2143834]I have a layover Thursday in Frankfurt and am planning on going to either Sharks or Oase. Are there recommended black or Asian woman currently in the Oase LU?
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]There is one skinny Asian woman at Oase working on the floor side of the counter.
I cannot remember if I saw a black woman this past weekend.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2143853]Respect the Oase cat (yellow and white) since it can scratch you when you pet it. The cat is seen sleeping in the relax room with the tired men a lot.[/QUOTE]It happened to me. We were so used to pet a cat or a dog in California. I thought she was nice kitten. Wrong! She was bloody pussy cat who can scratched your finger off. I had blood all over my index finger. Luckily it was not that deep. Yes. You are Warned!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2143650]I am banging many providers in Brazil who have whiter skins and are more caucasian looking than most Romanian girls...[/QUOTE]
Ha, true. How is it that the Romanian vet Dakota looks like a mulatta?
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2143733]My flight is coming up soon for me to visit the great Oase. Has anyone ever traveled with Cialis or Viagra in there luggage without a prescription? I have plenty to bring with me just don't want any issues with having in my luggage an no prescription for them. Staying at the Mercure hotel can't wait to give you guys hopefully live reports while I'm there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think there is no risk, I am travelling a lot and never any custom officer ask me any questions about any kind of pills I was carrying. Why do you need to take those kind of pills? If you are are healthy I really think there is no need I am 60 and never used it. You will just fuck prostitutes so no stress.
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[QUOTE=Namelessperson;2143834]I have a layover Thursday in Frankfurt and am planning on going to either Sharks or Oase. Are there recommended black or Asian woman currently in the Oase LU?
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]There's 4 black babes at Oase.
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Two Black girls. The only Asian girl from time to time is Kim. 40+.
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[QUOTE=Aadakodaa;2143703]Hey guys,
FKK is a unique concept that I've never heard of before, and I'm really excited to visit one. I'm visiting Frankfurt this coming weekend, any tips for a first-timer?[/QUOTE]I would tip the girls. Better service when the chicks find out you tip. The locals are thrilled as it helps with the local economy.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2143856]It happened to me. We were so used to pet a cat or a dog in California. I thought she was nice kitten. Wrong! She was bloody pussy cat who can scratched your finger off. I had blood all over my index finger. Luckily it was not that deep. Yes. You are Warned![/QUOTE]Was it you (or someone else) that when they got scratched by the Oase pussy and went to reception for a band aid that Mauro saw the situation and handed out free entrance cards in sympathy.
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[QUOTE=Namelessperson;2143834]I have a layover Thursday in Frankfurt and am planning on going to either Sharks or Oase. Are there recommended black or Asian woman currently in the Oase LU?
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]No offense, but if you want asian or black ladies, go where they are plentiful.
When in Europe, I never session with asian girls. I save that for asia.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2143760]I don't like Latinas fake moaning, but I love some Romanian woman types sensuality. Romanian girls don't seem so used to foreplay, with their Romanian BF, so, funny to see their reactions, when you caress them. Some can really play your game when they trust you and like you.
DFK and BBBJ without upselling, are standard for me in Germany, with my many Romanian GF met.[/QUOTE]Brazilian women are very demanding in bed and for them it is as much about being satisfied as being paid. Romanian girls are all about the money and the more you pay them the more sensual they will be with you, but do not be fooled into believing that they are into you, they are into the money only. However, although Brazilian babes can be more caucasian looking than Romanians I am more attracted to the Romanian girls than the Brazilian providers. The Brazilian bodies are fitter than the Romanians' but the Romanians are thinner and I prefer thinner, just my taste.
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Also.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2143829]I never have any issue. However, I only carry what I need for the trip. If you have case of that, you need to be careful.[/QUOTE]Thanks Dawong. Where do you pack them in your luggage? Do you put then in some other medication bottle?
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Big natural breasts.
I'm coming to Frankfurt for a few days fun for 1st time. Can someone recommend any girls with Big Natural Breasts? And which days I'll find them at Oase?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2144059]Brazilian women are very demanding in bed and for them it is as much about being satisfied as being paid. Romanian girls are all about the money and the more you pay them the more sensual they will be with you, but do not be fooled into believing that they are into you, they are into the money only. However, although Brazilian babes can be more caucasian looking than Romanians I am more attracted to the Romanian girls than the Brazilian providers. The Brazilian bodies are fitter than the Romanians' but the Romanians are thinner and I prefer thinner, just my taste.[/QUOTE]Perfect summary it is P6 nothing more, no money no sex. They perfectly know what different guys are looking for, and they provide it that is all.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2144066]Thanks Dawong. Where do you pack them in your luggage? Do you put then in some other medication bottle?[/QUOTE]Together with my other medicine.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2144066]Thanks Dawong. Where do you pack them in your luggage? Do you put then in some other medication bottle?[/QUOTE]I put mine in my clear plastic bag with the liquids for inspection by airport security to ensure they are kosher. Open and honest.
Airport security give me a smile and wink.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2143979]Was it you (or someone else) that when they got scratched by the Oase pussy and went to reception for a band aid that Mauro saw the situation and handed out free entrance cards in sympathy.[/QUOTE]Yes. It was me. Although free pass is great (I asked for one and got three). But I will for sure not get too close to that Oase Queen again.
FYI.
My son (18 years old) just got bitten (tiny little bit into skin) by a dog who was on leash last Sunday when he was jogging. Teenage thought no big deal and did not ask the person if the dog was vaccinated this year and did not ask phone number for the person either. We as parent called the doctor and were informed to go ER right away to get treatment. The bill for ER is over 1 k. We probably.
Overreacted. But Safety is number one.
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Haha
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2144169]I put mine in my clear plastic bag with the liquids for inspection by airport security to ensure they are kosher. Open and honest.
Airport security give me a smile and wink.[/QUOTE]I'm sure that's not what you do. I don't do Kosher either. I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.
Dawong,
You recommend carry on or in checked baggage?
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2144185]I'm sure that's not what you do. I don't do Kosher either. I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.
Dawong,
You recommend carry on or in checked baggage?[/QUOTE]I am serious. In my carry on luggage with my liquids and medicines in a clear plastic bag for inspection. Exactly as DaWong says he does with his medicines.
There has been many times I have been stopped and my bag searched.
The security guy opens on bag and it is full of lube and condoms. He is more embarrassed than I am about that. He quickly shuts the bag up and puts it back into my carry on luggage.
The security guy examines my clear plastic bag and checks nothing is over 100mL in liquids. He sees the pills and smiles when he realises what they are. I say it's for my personal life. He says he is not interested.
I give an answer and you don't like it laughing at it. Then why even ask the question if you're not ready to accept the answer. Up to you. I just report, you can listen or not listen.
If you think you are doing anything illegal then it is what you feel.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2144185]I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.[/QUOTE]It's Germany, not the UAE, so no reason to be worried unless you have industrial quantities with you.
[URL]http://www.zoll.de/EN/Private-individuals/Travel/Entering-Germany/Restrictions/Medicinal-products-and-narcotics/medicinal-products-and-narcotics_node.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2144185] I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.[/QUOTE]I loved that show but I do not think we will be TV stars for being Viagra smugglers. I take Viagra pills, Viagra troches and Vigara gel packs on my trips as well as the 5 MG daily cialis. I have a prescription for all but the gel packs. They are not intended for use in the United States but we can order them if we are using them outside the USA either way, no Rx.
Never had an issue with our TSA going thru security with any of the items nor customs on the way back. Never had an issue entering Germany or going thru airport security on the return flight often twice, once to enter the gate area the other right at the gate.
I do not think you have any worries. Carry on or underneath the plane I do not think makes a difference in fact I would put them all under the plane but in the event my luggage is misplaced I want a portion on me.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2144207]I loved that show but I do not think we will be TV stars for being Viagra smugglers. I take Viagra pills, Viagra troches and Vigara gel packs on my trips as well as the 5 MG daily cialis. I have a prescription for all but the gel packs. They are not intended for use in the United States but we can order them if we are using them outside the USA either way, no Rx.
Never had an issue with our TSA going thru security with any of the items nor customs on the way back. Never had an issue entering Germany or going thru airport security on the return flight often twice, once to enter the gate area the other right at the gate.
I do not think you have any worries. Carry on or underneath the plane I do not think makes a difference in fact I would put them all under the plane but in the event my luggage is misplaced I want a portion on me.[/QUOTE]What I do' t understand, when you write you are looking like the strong guy full of testosterone, fucking the girls when you want and in each to their wholes but you need Viagra, cialis just to be a normal man, what a pity, I am 60 but I never took any Viagra but obviously I need better erotic than dietz. Probably it is because of Dietz that you lost all your sexual power I can understand you, just one time there but took me a long time to recover from such a dirty place. Small advice just stop all those crazy pills and wait until you really want to have sex, probably f.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2144185]I'm sure that's not what you do. I don't do Kosher either. I don't want to end up on the tv show Locked up abroad. I'll put them in a bottle of Advil and hope for the best.
Dawong,
You recommend carry on or in checked baggage?[/QUOTE]Always in carry on so I will not have it lost.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2144059]Brazilian women are very demanding in bed and for them it is as much about being satisfied as being paid. Romanian girls are all about the money and the more you pay them the more sensual they will be with you, but do not be fooled into believing that they are into you, they are into the money only. However, although Brazilian babes can be more caucasian looking than Romanians I am more attracted to the Romanian girls than the Brazilian providers. The Brazilian bodies are fitter than the Romanians' but the Romanians are thinner and I prefer thinner, just my taste.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm the luckiest guy with Romanian girls, but for my many experiences with many Romanian girls, they are honest about money with me. Sometimes they can be jealous.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2143856]It happened to me. We were so used to pet a cat or a dog in California. I thought she was nice kitten. Wrong! She was bloody pussy cat who can scratched your finger off. I had blood all over my index finger. Luckily it was not that deep. Yes. You are Warned![/QUOTE]Yellow Belok is a good girl, she sleeps with me, on my feet, in relax room. She was just scared.
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My apologies.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2144199]I am serious. In my carry on luggage with my liquids and medicines in a clear plastic bag for inspection. Exactly as DaWong says he does with his medicines.
There has been many times I have been stopped and my bag searched.
The security guy opens on bag and it is full of lube and condoms. He is more embarrassed than I am about that. He quickly shuts the bag up and puts it back into my carry on luggage.
The security guy examines my clear plastic bag and checks nothing is over 100mL in liquids. He sees the pills and smiles when he realises what they are. I say it's for my personal life. He says he is not interested.
I give an answer and you don't like it laughing at it. Then why even ask the question if you're not ready to accept the answer. Up to you. I just report, you can listen or not listen.
If you think you are doing anything illegal then it is what you feel.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry I thought you were trying to be a smart ass. Thanks for the info.
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Not at all.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2144203]It's Germany, not the UAE, so no reason to be worried unless you have industrial quantities with you.
[URL]http://www.zoll.de/EN/Private-individuals/Travel/Entering-Germany/Restrictions/Medicinal-products-and-narcotics/medicinal-products-and-narcotics_node.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Just about 10 pills to get me through my trip. I don't have the original packaging though. As I get them from from a 50 year old guy that I work with.
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Hey Kosher.
[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2144207]I loved that show but I do not think we will be TV stars for being Viagra smugglers. I take Viagra pills, Viagra troches and Vigara gel packs on my trips as well as the 5 MG daily cialis. I have a prescription for all but the gel packs. They are not intended for use in the United States but we can order them if we are using them outside the USA either way, no Rx.
Never had an issue with our TSA going thru security with any of the items nor customs on the way back. Never had an issue entering Germany or going thru airport security on the return flight often twice, once to enter the gate area the other right at the gate.
I do not think you have any worries. Carry on or underneath the plane I do not think makes a difference in fact I would put them all under the plane but in the event my luggage is misplaced I want a portion on me.[/QUOTE]How you been Kosher? Thanks for the info. Just little worries that I don't have original packaging it goes in nor a prescription for them. Was going to put in bottle with Advil and hope for the best. When are you going over again? I'm right down the road from you in the Hill Country. Near marble falls.
I'll take your word on it as we travel from the same place.
Thanks again.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2144066]Thanks Dawong. Where do you pack them in your luggage? Do you put then in some other medication bottle?[/QUOTE]No issue here either. I keep them in a ziplock bag with my condoms and tuck them in a side pocket in my suitcase. Whether it's checked or carry-on. Done the same thing flying to Europe as well as all over asia. China, Korea, thailand, singapore, Japan.
Edit:
mine are in the original package (blister packs) and are a mix of cialis and of a viagra clone that I get from the UK guy that advertises on ISG. I also sometimes buy the thai version from pharmacies in bangkok
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2144257]How you been Kosher? Thanks for the info. Just little worries that I don't have original packaging it goes in nor a prescription for them. Was going to put in bottle with Advil and hope for the best. When are you going over again? I'm right down the road from you in the Hill Country. Near marble falls.
I'll take your word on it as we travel from the same place.
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Hi Vet,
I travel extensively in Europe (Frankfurt is my gateway city) including Germany, France, Spain, Denmark, Italy), Asia (India, Thailand, China, Philippines), Brazil, & US. Always carry my own Viagra & Cialis. Mostly in split format (buy 50 MG, use 25) - and in a plastic bag in my briefcase. Never been an issue. No prescription nor usually not in original blister pack. Having said that, rarely bring more than 3 pills split into 2. So no way can I be accused of distribution, etc. I have been thru 'extended' security in Germany (random) - and never mentioned.
Will.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2144059]Brazilian women are very demanding in bed and for them it is as much about being satisfied as being paid. Romanian girls are all about the money and the more you pay them the more sensual they will be with you, but do not be fooled into believing that they are into you, they are into the money only. [/QUOTE]Sure. Brazilian girls do it because they love sex and enjoy the sex with older Caucasians. They are not into the money only.
They might be better actors and hoping for you to be the prince to get them out of the life they are leading into a western country and better life. If you are mongering in SA.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2144254]I'm sorry I thought you were trying to be a smart ass. Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]I hope given the other responses supporting my original answer that I was telling true. I don't know why you thought I was being not correct.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2144251]Yellow Belok is a good girl, she sleeps with me, on my feet, in relax room. She was just scared.[/QUOTE]We slept close on last night, I think she likes my respect, I let her my bed, after Adela just back on day.
Elisabet. Hu also back, not so fit.
A black girl with fake blond. She was getting Asians, they really go with anything blond.
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Yes.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2144779]I hope given the other responses supporting my original answer that I was telling true. I don't know why you thought I was being not correct.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, sorry that I took it the wrong way. Seems like I will be alright with bringing them either way. Thanks.
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Thanks.
[QUOTE=Willa1;2144552]Hi Vet,
I travel extensively in Europe (Frankfurt is my gateway city) including Germany, France, Spain, Denmark, Italy), Asia (India, Thailand, China, Philippines), Brazil, & US. Always carry my own Viagra & Cialis. Mostly in split format (buy 50 MG, use 25) - and in a plastic bag in my briefcase. Never been an issue. No prescription nor usually not in original blister pack. Having said that, rarely bring more than 3 pills split into 2. So no way can I be accused of distribution, etc. I have been thru 'extended' security in Germany (random) - and never mentioned.
Will.[/QUOTE]Thank you everyone for the help. Counting down the minutes till my flight leaves.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2144787]
Elisabet. Hu also back, not so fit.
.[/QUOTE]A bit less fit than a few months ago, but still dynamite in the room.
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Curious, In Sharks / Darmstadt registration is extended through March 1st. What is the situation at Oase? Did they benefit from the extension or can I assume that all of the girls that I saw in January were already registered?
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2146114]Curious, In Sharks / Darmstadt registration is extended through March 1st. What is the situation at Oase? Did they benefit from the extension or can I assume that all of the girls that I saw in January were already registered?[/QUOTE]I don't believe there is a extension the girls need to have a appointment to have the right to enter the club.
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Line-up at 10:00 AM'
Has anybody been at Oase at 10:00 AM when it opens? How is the line-up lets say on a Friday? Are there enough number of girls?
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[QUOTE=JohnPoppen;2146189]Has anybody been at Oase at 10:00 AM when it opens? How is the line-up lets say on a Friday? Are there enough number of girls?[/QUOTE]Usually 1 or 2 girls are ready exactly at 10 am then they trickle out of the locker room over the next couple of hours. Should see maybe 10-12 girls by 1200 building up to around 30-40 by 4 pm when night shift start to trickle in.
Its nice to wake up to a cup of coffee and watch the girls trickle in wearing their civilian clothes or sleep wear😀
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Just beware that even though the doors open at 10 am, breakfast isn't available until 11 am on the dot.
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Elizabeth hu
[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2145741]A bit less fit than a few months ago, but still dynamite in the room.[/QUOTE]Elizabeth hu is still as pale as ever but really her current look of being chubby does not do it for me. She has many American admirers who would call her slim to average for their experience with American girls but really not for me.
Saying she is not as fit is being diplomatic.
Service for me was so so for my experience I am sorry.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2146196]Usually 1 or 2 girls are ready exactly at 10 am then they trickle out of the locker room over the next couple of hours. Should see maybe 10-12 girls by 1200 building up to around 30-40 by 4 pm when night shift start to trickle in.
Its nice to wake up to a cup of coffee and watch the girls trickle in wearing their civilian clothes or sleep wear😀[/QUOTE]Hmmm. I might have only 1 or 2 hours in the morning before I need to leave for the airport. What are my options at 10:00 AM? Escorts?
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[QUOTE=RonndeRonne;2144069]I'm coming to Frankfurt for a few days fun for 1st time. Can someone recommend any girls with Big Natural Breasts? And which days I'll find them at Oase?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Go to Palace instead. There you have Christina, Maria, Bianca and Lisa with huge naturals. Christina is by far my favorite. Good luck and please let me know what you found.
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[QUOTE=JohnPoppen;2146271]Hmmm. I might have only 1 or 2 hours in the morning before I need to leave for the airport. What are my options at 10:00 AM? Escorts?[/QUOTE]Red light district next to Frankfurt main station. Open 24/7.
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[QUOTE=JohnPoppen;2146271]Hmmm. I might have only 1 or 2 hours in the morning before I need to leave for the airport. What are my options at 10:00 AM? Escorts?[/QUOTE]Can't help you there, not my scene.
But I'm sure some residents of the Red Light District eros centers would be awake and available.
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Ottoman turkish guy thrown out of club
It was one of those surreal events.
I was sat on a couch observing the naked flesh on display. Hey someone has to do it. The viewing may not be politically correct but hey FKK is not politically correct.
Anyway a girl walks up with security behind her and points at one Ottoman Turk in a robe. Of course as an Ottoman Turk he is wearing panties and not naked underneath his robe.
So next thing one knows, the Security guys have got hold of the Ottoman and start dragging him out to reception and pull the Oase Robe off him, pull his locker keyband off him and throw him out the door.
One security man watches the door while the other security man goes down to the locker room to collect the Ottoman Turk's personal effects. The security guy returns and then throws all the Ottoman's stuff at him as he huddled freezing cold outside the Reception door in this panties.
So you see there is enforcement for behaviour going on at Oase which you do not see at Sharks.
Be good out there.
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[QUOTE=JohnPoppen;2146271]Hmmm. I might have only 1 or 2 hours in the morning before I need to leave for the airport. What are my options at 10:00 AM? Escorts?[/QUOTE]At 10 am I am still in bed. I will just do a do it yourself hand job and save some bucks.
Do it all the time. Sometimes even when I plan to go to FKK I lose all my spunk before I get in the door. I end up doing wellness for hours and hours to recharge my spunk battery.
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Romanian girl refusing to service any more men or taking a break
I was sat on a couch in the main lounge watching the gazelles walking by doing their rounds.
One pretty Romania girl with firm but fleshy natural breasts caught my attention span was sitting at another couch.
So anyway, a tall dark haired Western Europe man walk up to the girl. She say something to her and then next thing we know the go is saying no and shaking her head. Girl even yells out to within air shot of others "NO".
The German gets an adverse reaction but backs off. The girl clearly cannot believe that this goes on.
We suggest the German man was asking for anal sex from her and she did not do sodomy or the German man was known to have a coke can sized width cock that was way to big for her small cavities.
A 60 year old German man I was sitting next to having a chat said to me that refusing a customer can go both ways. A man can refuse a girl but also a girl can refuse a man too. The 60 year old German was well cool.
Anyway next customer to approach the girl was a white American man. He went off for a 15 minutes session
After the American was an Asian man who went to the girl that refused the younger German man.
The German man had no visible tattoos indicating he was gang related like Hell's Angels of either the Turkish or German chapters.
Strange. Maybe it was 50 bucks.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2146214]Just beware that even though the doors open at 10 am, breakfast isn't available until 11 am on the dot.[/QUOTE]But by the time he is done in the locker and has had a shower it is probably more like 10.30. I have gotten there early many times, but never had to wait more than 10 minutes for breakfast. It happens they let you start 5 minutes early also.
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LOL, are you live reporting now Bitumen?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2146560]I was sat on a couch in the main lounge watching the gazelles walking by doing their rounds.
One pretty Romania girl with firm but fleshy natural breasts caught my attention span was sitting at another couch.
So anyway, a tall dark haired Western Europe man walk up to the girl. She say something to her and then next thing we know the go is saying no and shaking her head. Girl even yells out to within air shot of others "NO".
The German gets an adverse reaction but backs off. The girl clearly cannot believe that this goes on.
We suggest the German man was asking for anal sex from her and she did not do sodomy or the German man was known to have a coke can sized width cock that was way to big for her small cavities.
A 60 year old German man I was sitting next to having a chat said to me that refusing a customer can go both ways. A man can refuse a girl but also a girl can refuse a man too..[/QUOTE]Keep it up. Live report is way to go!
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2146560]I was sat on a couch in the main lounge watching the gazelles walking by doing their rounds.
One pretty Romania girl with firm but fleshy natural breasts caught my attention span was sitting at another couch.
So anyway, a tall dark haired Western Europe man walk up to the girl. She say something to her and then next thing we know the go is saying no and shaking her head. Girl even yells out to within air shot of others "NO".
The German gets an adverse reaction but backs off. The girl clearly cannot believe that this goes on.
We suggest the German man was asking for anal sex from her and she did not do sodomy or the German man was known to have a coke can sized width cock that was way to big for her small cavities.
A 60 year old German man I was sitting next to having a chat said to me that refusing a customer can go both ways. A man can refuse a girl but also a girl can refuse a man too. The 60 year old German was well cool..[/QUOTE]Sometimes I am quite amazed by some reactions, of course girls are refusing some guys this is nothing new.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2146560]saying no and shaking her head.
A 60 year old German man I was sitting next to having a chat said to me that refusing a customer can go both ways. A man can refuse a girl but also a girl can refuse a man too. T.[/QUOTE]He is damn right. Girls can and do refuse clients, some in a more subtle, others in a more direct way. Reason could be anything from bad personal experience with him, intel about the guy that he is very demanding, dick too big, rude with the girls, smelling, trying to force her to BB service, asking directly for BB service, trouble paying or or or.
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"wearing panties"? Male underwear or female underwear? Any idea why he was ejected? Ripped off or mistreated a WG?
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2146546]It was one of those surreal events.
I was sat on a couch observing the naked flesh on display. Hey someone has to do it. The viewing may not be politically correct but hey FKK is not politically correct.
Anyway a girl walks up with security behind her and points at one Ottoman Turk in a robe. Of course as an Ottoman Turk he is wearing panties and not naked underneath his robe.
So next thing one knows, the Security guys have got hold of the Ottoman and start dragging him out to reception and pull the Oase Robe off him, pull his locker keyband off him and throw him out the door.
One security man watches the door while the other security man goes down to the locker room to collect the Ottoman Turk's personal effects. The security guy returns and then throws all the Ottoman's stuff at him as he huddled freezing cold outside the Reception door in this panties.
So you see there is enforcement for behaviour going on at Oase which you do not see at Sharks.
Be good out there.[/QUOTE]
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Customers wearing panties in the FKK club
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2147002]"wearing panties"? Male underwear or female underwear? Any idea why he was ejected? Ripped off or mistreated a WG?[/QUOTE]Panties is referring to the tendency for Ottomans and Italians to wear their big under pants when they go into the sauna, jacuzzi and also wear under their robe. Some even wear a T shirt under their robes. This is meant to a FKK. Nudity is expected.
I know that girl that pointed him out and due to that scene I shall not be going with anymore to the room if she has that much clout to get an Ottoman thrown out of the club.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2147054]
I know that girl that pointed him out and due to that scene I shall not be going with anymore to the room if she has that much clout to get an Ottoman thrown out of the club.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2147002]"wearing panties"? Male underwear or female underwear? Any idea why he was ejected? Ripped off or mistreated a WG?[/QUOTE]I was in the club the other day too and did not see him kicked out but yesterday in a discussion with a girl as I was rather surprised they allowed men to have the phones in the club she did tell me a guy a day or two ago had his flash off and a girl saw him pointing the camera and apparently was taking a photo. They probably smashed his phone on the pavement outside too.
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Older German man met in the club
The older German man I met in the club was so well organised he had brought his own food into the club to eat as well. He said the food was not always good or even edible. The meat was over cooked sitting in warmers for hours and hours he rather have a couple of filled rolls he made himself. I watch him eat them as I had some soup from the main dinner menu.
Still the freshly cooked pizza included in your entry fee is still the crowd pleaser for me.
Speak to the man in Italian or Romanian to get the pizza tailored to order as to thickness, size and toppings.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2147119]I was in the club the other day too and did not see him kicked out but yesterday in a discussion with a girl as I was rather surprised they allowed men to have the phones in the club she did tell me a guy a day or two ago had his flash off and a girl saw him pointing the camera and apparently was taking a photo. They probably smashed his phone on the pavement outside too.[/QUOTE]Phones are allowed everywhere in Oase from what I can see. I use my phone in the restaurant, TV area with the high tables and also in the main lounge. It is like Golden Time in this respect. Guys have to have trust that no one is making movies when there.
Good to know you have made it to Oase now Kosher Kowboy. Anything to report on your visit?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2147125]Good to know you have made it to Oase now Kosher Kowboy. Anything to report on your visit?[/QUOTE]Be stateside not too long from now, yes, will have report. Oase grew on me this trip it had been two years since went and I think I will mix it up with Sharks on upcoming trips I have booked in the Frankfurt area and will be adding the Devorah girls in Barcelona and get back to Madrid as well. I abandoned Spain so will add it back in the mix. The Gypsy House is starting the get boring and I can not keep fucking the same ones over and over. The Oase girls all seemed very nice, I even sampled one of the 3 Africans for a change of pace.
[QUOTE=Bitumen;2147124]Still the freshly cooked pizza included in your entry fee is still the crowd pleaser for me.[/QUOTE]I got several of them (the spicy Diablo was my favorite) and the guy that cleans up the restaurant and the lady behind the bar are both extremely nice and pleasant. They also have good soups, I do not recall Sharks having soup but I might have missed it.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2147125]Phones are allowed everywhere in Oase from what I can see. I use my phone in the restaurant, TV area with the high tables and also in the main lounge. It is like Golden Time in this respect. Guys have to have trust that no one is making movies when there.
Good to know you have made it to Oase now Kosher Kowboy. Anything to report on your visit?[/QUOTE]Yes, this is very convenient and yet I got hardly used to it when I was in Oase the last time. It is just so weird because in almost all other FKKs you can't use it and that is the reasonable way to go in my opinion. I know also in GT and Livingroom you can use your phone or even your laptop right in the middle of the club. Convenient but weird to me. And I really wouldn't want to find myself in a position in which I am accused of having filmed the naked ladies.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2147174]Yes, this is very convenient and yet I got hardly used to it when I was in Oase the last time. It is just so weird because in almost all other FKKs you can't use it and that is the reasonable way to go in my opinion. I know also in GT and Livingroom you can use your phone or even your laptop right in the middle of the club. Convenient but weird to me. And I really wouldn't want to find myself in a position in which I am accused of having filmed the naked ladies.[/QUOTE]Good to hear that one can use their phone everywhere in Oase. I really miss not being able to use my phone in Sharks, because usually I'm bored to death in between sessions. There is a limit to the amount of "people watching," eating, sauna trips, massages and superficial short 2 minute "Hi-how-are-you / what's-your-name / where-are-you-from" and "let's-go-to-a-room" conversations I can do during a day.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2147125]Phones are allowed everywhere in Oase from what I can see. I use my phone in the restaurant, TV area with the high tables and also in the main lounge. It is like Golden Time in this respect. Guys have to have trust that no one is making movies when there.
Good to know you have made it to Oase now Kosher Kowboy. Anything to report on your visit?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure how the girls are feeling about clients being allowed to use their phones and that they could be filmed at any moment. I am not against the use of phones in FKKs, but there should be places where the phone is a no-go. The girls shouldn't have to fear being filmed while they are working and it must make them uneasy knowing that it could happen at any moment.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2147174]Yes, this is very convenient and yet I got hardly used to it when I was in Oase the last time. It is just so weird because in almost all other FKKs you can't use it and that is the reasonable way to go in my opinion. I know also in GT and Livingroom you can use your phone or even your laptop right in the middle of the club. Convenient but weird to me. And I really wouldn't want to find myself in a position in which I am accused of having filmed the naked ladies.[/QUOTE]Two edged sword.
Convenience of WiFi for the addicts but then the risk of exposure in the club in real time.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2147119]I was in the club the other day too and did not see him kicked out but yesterday in a discussion with a girl as I was rather surprised they allowed men to have the phones in the club she did tell me a guy a day or two ago had his flash off and a girl saw him pointing the camera and apparently was taking a photo. They probably smashed his phone on the pavement outside too.[/QUOTE]I hope they checked the phone first to see that he really did take photos.
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[QUOTE=Zorp001;2147197]I'm not sure how the girls are feeling about clients being allowed to use their phones and that they could be filmed at any moment. I am not against the use of phones in FKKs, but there should be places where the phone is a no-go. The girls shouldn't have to fear being filmed while they are working and it must make them uneasy knowing that it could happen at any moment.[/QUOTE]I can assure you that the girls don't like to be filmed. Last summer this guy took pictures with his phone of the girls skinnydipping and sunbathing by the pool. The girls saw it, yelled at the guy, and immediately called security. 30 seconds later the guy was surrounded by 2- 3 big guys asking him to delete every single photo of the girls while standing over him and at the end checking his phone. Not a pleasant situation.
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[QUOTE=NNC1701;2147183]Good to hear that one can use their phone everywhere in Oase. I really miss not being able to use my phone in Sharks, because usually I'm bored to death in between sessions. There is a limit to the amount of "people watching," eating, sauna trips, massages and superficial short 2 minute "Hi-how-are-you / what's-your-name / where-are-you-from" and "let's-go-to-a-room" conversations I can do during a day.[/QUOTE]Can use phone at GT, LR, Aca, Samya.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2147124]The older German man I met in the club was so well organised he had brought his own food into the club to eat as well. He said the food was not always good or even edible. The meat was over cooked sitting in warmers for hours and hours he rather have a couple of filled rolls he made himself. I watch him eat them as I had some soup from the main dinner menu.
Still the freshly cooked pizza included in your entry fee is still the crowd pleaser for me.
Speak to the man in Italian or Romanian to get the pizza tailored to order as to thickness, size and toppings.[/QUOTE]The only complaint I have for free pizza is very salty.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;2147214]Two edged sword.
Convenience of WiFi for the addicts but then the risk of exposure in the club in real time.[/QUOTE]For sure. Although I can't really be exposed in Germany it is rather the general feeling that I don't want to be on pictures that I have not explicitly authorized. But well, as long as the OASE management thinks it is ok, we will probably be fine with it, too. Still find it weird, though. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2147285]I can assure you that the girls don't like to be filmed. Last summer this guy took pictures with his phone of the girls skinnydipping and sunbathing by the pool. The girls saw it, yelled at the guy, and immediately called security. 30 seconds later the guy was surrounded by 2- 3 big guys asking him to delete every single photo of the girls while standing over him and at the end checking his phone. Not a pleasant situation.[/QUOTE]They are prostitutes, many of them are used to be on internet as a escort, they will do everything to sell themselves, I will never take a picture from any girl just because I don't care.
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First trip to Oase
Hi all,
So I'm heading off to my grande finale to my week at Oase tomorrow. I'll be taking the S5 to Friedrichsdorf then a taxi to get there.
Is there anything I should know or be careful of, any particular distinction between the way things work in Oase compared to Sharks?
Tips on how to get the most out of what Oase has to offer?
As usual thanks for any help and I will be writing a full report when I get back.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2147364]Hi all,
So I'm heading off to my grande finale to my week at Oase tomorrow. I'll be taking the S5 to Friedrichsdorf then a taxi to get there.
Is there anything I should know or be careful of, any particular distinction between the way things work in Oase compared to Sharks?
Tips on how to get the most out of what Oase has to offer?
As usual thanks for any help and I will be writing a full report when I get back.[/QUOTE]Not really. All those WGs are pretty much the same. They are there to make money. However, most of them are nice. Just treat them like what you like to be treated. It will all works it out.
One important thing though. Do not get Close to that cat in the quite room (where only man can go). That pussy cat is wild.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2147387]Not really. All those WGs are pretty much the same. They are there to make money. However, most of them are nice. Just treat them like what you like to be treated. It will all works it out.
One important thing though. Do not get Close to that cat in the quite room (where only man can go). That pussy cat is wild.[/QUOTE]Better to ask girls about what you like, before going to room at Oase.
Yellow Belok is the only girl at Oase who sleep with you for free. Sometimes I sleep with her for 3 or 4 hours, other girls would ask for 300/400, she just want you to be quiet with her. The less expensive girl at Oase.
Cats also love me when I take breakfast at GT, waiting I give them ham.
Interesting experience at Oase: One of the prettiest girl avoided me on my few visits on 2017, even we never even spoke together. Once I had a room with her very pretty friend, then on my next visit both were smiling, then we had a chat with the girl who avoided me, after our first room, on very late night I think she didn't want I go with another girl, so we repeated. On my next visit, she came to me when she saw me. Even at Oase, I think she doesn't want I do the same sex with other girls, like with most of my girls.
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[QUOTE=Zorp001;2147197]The girls shouldn't have to fear being filmed while they are working and it must make them uneasy knowing that it could happen at any moment.[/QUOTE]I agree. Put me in the no-phone camp. I sympathize with the girls' need for discretion, and I won't refuse it for me either.
I think most people can live for a few hours away from their phones, and as a bonus: no having to overhear lame one way conversations or some doofus guffawing at the tinny sounds of some sitcom from their phone. These things make me feel like I'm on some commuter train from the suburbs, not exactly the spa atmosphere a lot these clubs strive for.
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I have no desire of bringing a phone into an FKK. However, I still own an ipod and would love to bring it into the club to listen to my choice of music and podcasts but have always resisted. I have also resisted bringing my laptop which, if I did, I would spend an entire day from opening to close in the club as I could work rather than spending just a few hours which is what I do.
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Using my phone here as we speak. I consider it a plus. A nice right not to be abused.
Plus it allows me to unwind better in the quiet room, get some reading done. Definitely a plus.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2147600]I have no desire of bringing a phone into an FKK. However, I still own an ipod and would love to bring it into the club to listen to my choice of music and podcasts but have always resisted. I have also resisted bringing my laptop which, if I did, I would spend an entire day from opening to close in the club as I could work rather than spending just a few hours which is what I do.[/QUOTE]In Oase laptop are only allowed in the rest area upstairs. I use my ipod for many years in all the club without any problem.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2147603]Using my phone here as we speak. I consider it a plus. A nice right not to be abused.
Plus it allows me to unwind better in the quiet room, get some reading done. Definitely a plus.[/QUOTE]I just read your post in another thread. I was able to use my cell phone as well. I used it to take notes on the girls (and not take photos.) No one said a word. Tell me, was this a problem for you at Sharks?
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2147786]I just read your post in another thread. I was able to use my cell phone as well. I used it to take notes on the girls (and not take photos.) No one said a word. Tell me, was this a problem for you at Sharks?[/QUOTE]I was told I could only use my phone at the reception but given that it was that terrible receptionist that told it could be that It's not entirely true. From what I could see however phones are not allowed in sharks' main area and I didn't see whether there was WiFi to use either.
Here they're much more laid back about it.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2147797]I was told I could only use my phone at the reception but given that it was that terrible receptionist that told it could be that It's not entirely true. From what I could see however phones are not allowed in sharks' main area and I didn't see whether there was WiFi to use either.
Here they're much more laid back about it.[/QUOTE]No use of phone allowed in Shark.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2147797]I was told I could only use my phone at the reception but given that it was that terrible receptionist that told it could be that It's not entirely true. From what I could see however phones are not allowed in sharks' main area and I didn't see whether there was WiFi to use either.
Here they're much more laid back about it.[/QUOTE]No WiFi at Sharks or World, both clubs do not allow mobiles in the club area except lockers or reception. Same for Palace and Mainhattan, but they do have WiFi. Oase has WiFi and allows mobiles everywhere.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2147913]No WiFi at Sharks or World, both clubs do not allow mobiles in the club area except lockers or reception. Same for Palace and Mainhattan, but they do have WiFi. Oase has WiFi and allows mobiles everywhere.[/QUOTE]Sorry but we visit clubs to session girls and now we are spending so much energy about wifi or not, is it really important?
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Artemis has, or rather had a functioning wifi which used to be for use in the reception area. Nowadays it is there, but the receptionists probably lie about it not working any longer.
Aca and Oceans in nrw have functioning wifis usable anywhere. Just like Oase.
At Samya, phones are only allowed at reception area iirc. I do not recall if they have any wifi's at all either.
Can't recall at GT, but radio signals there are terrible, so no G4 at least, except for at odd spots. Probably not a functioning wifi at least.
In NL, YY doesn't allow phones to be used inside. SS has a Wifi and phones are allowed anywhere.
In Austria, Wellcum and gt Vienna doesn't allow phones to be used inside the club. Wellcum at least does have Wifi for use in the reception area / hotel. (Can't recall about GT Vienna).
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2147600]I have no desire of bringing a phone into an FKK. However, I still own an ipod and would love to bring it into the club to listen to my choice of music and podcasts but have always resisted. I have also resisted bringing my laptop which, if I did, I would spend an entire day from opening to close in the club as I could work rather than spending just a few hours which is what I do.[/QUOTE]World or job don't stop when you are in brothels, sometimes have to work from brothels, with mails.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2147309]The only complaint I have for free pizza is very salty.[/QUOTE]Especially the Diavolo pizza comprising spicy sausage (pikant) and peppers (paprika). I need water or fruit juice to help that one go down the hatchet
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2148166]
In Austria, Wellcum and gt Vienna doesn't allow phones to be used inside the club. Wellcum at least does have Wifi for use in the reception area / hotel. (Can't recall about GT Vienna).[/QUOTE]GT Vienna has a PC close to the entrance that all clients and girls can use. It is nextto the cash machine and the cigarette dispenser.
In GT there is 1 table where girls sit, who take a break and are not available for sessions or who do not work at all on that day. Clients can sit there as well and using your phone there is more or less accepted. Girls and the staff will watch out, though, to prevent that clients take photos or vids of the girls or anyone or anything. Generally in Vienna management of the brothels is not as militant than it is in Germany often. But don't test them and their patience, is my advice!
On that particular table I have used my laptop a couple of times. Sometimes I was allowed to do it and another time I was told to pack it away as girls might feel uncomfortable.
In FP you are not allowed to use your phone or but the respectless clientele that they generally have doesn't much care about rules.
In Babylon you can use your phone for sure and it plays an important rule there.
In Maxim you are allowed to use it and also laptops but you will be warned as soon as it seems as though somebody is being filmed.
That's how it is in the main clubs in Vienna.
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I used the notes function I my I-phone in Oase last year. I used in in GTs as well. I walked around with it in my pocket all day and night. I may just have to bring along a pen and pocket sized pad. Otherwise I could never remember all those names and facts that I put in my reports.
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My trip to Oase: Good
Stayed from 1 pm to 5 am the next morning (closing time at the weekend).
GETTING THERE: I got in early rather early, again much more easily than it looks on the map. S5 to Friedrichsdorf (5€ end of the line), then a 10€ taxi ride to Oase (I do not know of any simpler way to get there).
LAYOUT / FACILITIES: The outside looks like kind of Temple with the inside decorations keeping a sort of Roman Therme feel. Arriving inside, it seems quite with some confusing halls so I took my time to get my bearings. In short: enter the door and the register is to the right, 50 entry for arrivals before 4 pm. Past the next doorway to the left is the Kino (nonstop porno)/ main room which is designed like a night club / bar. This is the area where most of the girls assemble at a given time, however they do rounds to other areas.
Straight ahead down the steps is the changing area which again holds several hundred lockers. All around the back area before going down the steps, there are dozens of rooms to take the girls to.
To the right is the bathing area, with a TV area at the top, down the steps is the jacuzzi and to the left, the cafeteria where food is served non-stop, even before lunch is formally ready, a breakfast buffet which had eggs, fruit, sausages, hash browns and chicken wings was available, allowing me to get my fill even earlier. Next to the jacuzzi to the back are more rooms for sessions. Behind the seats and tables, there is the entrance to the left up some steps to a Ruhebereich Resting Room where you can sleep or rest away from any noise whenever you feel like it, girls are not allowed in this area allowing you to easily take a break whenever and for however long.
The large door directly behind the tables to a rather generously big outside area which one couldn't really take advantage of in the snowy winter weather, however clear to see is the building just to the right up the steps which houses the hamam and sauna. Further outside there is a large pool, a shed and a path around leading to an odd small altar like-building which has a mirror to the back (don't know what it's for, maybe for shows? There clearly are benches tables and all sorts of other summer facilities to look forward to when the weather starts to heat up. Statues everywhere in the garden. The area looks isolated enough so that one needn't fear for one's privacy.
No tanning facilities (curiously absent).
GIRLS / LINE-UP: The girls are more aggressive here than in sharks, especially after arriving early, I had already declined at least 5 girls within the first 40 minutes. Personally this isn't a complaint, I prefer it.
I didn't find the line-up to be better than sharks necessarily, just definitely more varied: Black girls (African girls at least 2), a few asians, Eastern European Barbies, brunettes, latinas, no redheads from what I could see.
Even up till closing, there were at least 60 or 70 girls that I counted. There is a shift system in place whereby girls are not allowed to leave before the end, keeping the quantity constant (how this works when the girls pay an entrance fee and are supposedly independent, I do not know).
The girl / guest ratio however earlier in the evening was fantastic in the kino / club room, ridiculous even, at 7/1 near 7 o'clock. However this ratio then went down as the evening progressed. By 3 pm I was less impressed by the girls there, the lookers wouldn't talk to me or exchange glances, and I was getting approached by a few porkers and girls that I wouldn't fuck for free, let alone for 50. But it was late, people get tired. Including me.
I as a matter of course steer clear of the barbies that chase after the Asians, and the ones with an attitude problem as I do not think they will provide a good service.
Often I would often see teams of two gather around Asian gentlemen sitting alone, and coaxing them, likely then in the room likely offering 10 minutes of CBJ and no kissing (I'm guessing here).
One Moldovan girl who kept doing the rounds near the pool, blond with wonderful tits and great proportions, would only do sessions for 100, and worse, the session would only be 30 minutes. No thanks.
I had the pleasure of meeting 3 other ISG users here by chance, and we all exchanged experiences. 1 guy got stuck with a CBJ despite negotiating otherwise by the tall dark Spanish (ha) girl. Another guy (not from the 3) got CBJ'the though perhaps he didn't negotiate it explicitly. It can happen. I take my time and negotiate, to make sure it doesn't.
MY SERVICE: Katharina, a brunette with beautifully shaped lips, tanned body with beached blond hair and some inner blue streaks gave an adequate service. BBJ didn't kiss much (only lips) refused to take her leggings off (which then made me add a different element to my negotiation (bbj, 50, full nude, not just kissing but DFK). Perhaps I should also try kissing before choosing to go to the room.
Her blowjob skills were however to die for, with her initial start, looking up at me while doing it, at a speed and sensitivity (tongue curved in a way that it would glide as she sucked up and down) that would have made me cum had I not asked her to go slower. She did missionary and doggie style, where I was perhaps rough (condom evidence pointed to bleeding. I don't know why that happens) and came with a day's pause ferocity. I can recommend her, just don't cheese her off hours before by telling her that you hate her name and that she should consider changing it (a joke) or be a bit pushy, otherwise you may get the leggings too. All in all, fine compared to other people's experiences.
At 4 am: Denisa: 25 yo "Spanish" (gypsy) with a dark tanned body and black hair that just did it for me. Was nice enough and provided a great service, plus showed all the signs I made a note for in the main hall, let me kiss before chosing her, accepted bbj, DFK, full nude (made sure to make it clear). Wasn't sure if I was up for it but she clearly showed otherwise.
Afterwards, in time for almost closing time, I was done. Great night, made full use of the facilities. The snow outside complemented my several trips to the sauna.
Damage: 2 x50€ sessions, 50€ entry (probably ate that much in food)= 150€.
VERDICT: Still worth the trip and an occasional option, however Sharks slightly edges out in terms of the quality of girls and quantity as well. If you are however looking for an experience that is more paced, less intense, quiet and relaxing, Oase is better and is more like a spa. Also being allowed to use your find and access wifi is a massive plus in my book. Oase is probably even better during the summer with its great outside area.
I personally would also only come for a full day stay rather than for a couple of hours given the cost to get there and inside. Given the feedback and posts on here, I guess that Oase used to be at the top, and has since had to the cede its crown to Sharks under intense competition. Still worth going to though in my opinion.
Hope this report has been helpful.
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Anoter great report
I think I made a tactical error last year. Sounds like you did a great job negotiating the mind field.
How do I link this guys report to the reports of distinction and the other one from Sharks?
These are good reports. Love them.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2148394]I used the notes function I my I-phone in Oase last year. [/QUOTE]I have insider info that the executives at Apple are coming out with a future version of the I-phone that includes a unique feature: in addition to being able to select "Airplane Mode," the new version will also offer the option to turn your phone to "FKK Club Mode," meaning all camera functions are automatically disabled. Mauro is already getting one for free, gift-wrapped from the Directors!
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[QUOTE=Ortos;2148409]I have insider info that the executives at Apple are coming out with a future version of the I-phone that includes a unique feature: in addition to being able to select "Airplane Mode," the new version will also offer the option to turn your phone to "FKK Club Mode," meaning all camera functions are automatically disabled. Mauro is already getting one for free, gift-wrapped from the Directors![/QUOTE]Mauro should use his energy not on a new phone but on managing his club which is really going in the wrong direction.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2147797]I was told I could only use my phone at the reception but given that it was that terrible receptionist that told it could be that It's not entirely true. From what I could see however phones are not allowed in sharks' main area and I didn't see whether there was WiFi to use either.
Here they're much more laid back about it.[/QUOTE]No WiFi in Sharks, phone or iPad are not allowed in Sharks either.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2148370]In GT there is 1 table where girls sit, who take a break and are not available for sessions or who do not work at all on that day.[/QUOTE]This was really annoying me actually. As the by far (in my eyes) hottest girl at GT Vienna was sitting there all day, having a day of. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2148396]Stayed from 1 pm to 5 am the next morning (closing time at the weekend).
Hope this report has been helpful.[/QUOTE]Another great report. Really helpful. Planning a trip this Friday.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2148592]This was really annoying me actually. As the by far (in my eyes) hottest girl at GT Vienna was sitting there all day, having a day of. LOL.[/QUOTE]Perhaps she had her period and doesn't want to fuck, so many girls are still working when they have their periods.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2148592]This was really annoying me actually. As the by far (in my eyes) hottest girl at GT Vienna was sitting there all day, having a day of. LOL.[/QUOTE]Sometimes they can be convinced to get back to work or at least start the day early. Asking never hurts. But of course this area is also supposed to be the space for the girls where they can distance themselves a bit from the ongoings in the club. Get some rest or talk sth private with the other girls or on the phone with friends, family or whoever.
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My little Friday night.
I have visited Oase last Friday. It was not my first visit, yet the last one dated back to three years ago. Oase is the only FKK I have visited, thus I can not compare with others: still I hope this report could be useful.
My experience has been absolutely positive. The atmosphere was very relaxed: no huge crowds as it happens during the fairs, and in general the girls were not pressing but cordially inviting. An attitude which I appreciated and put me in the right mood. I used a lot also the resting area during the intercourses. I arrived at around 6 pm on Friday and left the club at 1:30 am on Saturday, spending long times in the jacuzzi which often was completely empty.
The first girl I was with in the room was M*ina: unfortunately I do not remember exactly her name, but she is Rumanian, in her first twenties I would say, easy to recognize because she has two very beautiful eyes (and I think she is very aware of it! I met her at the restaurant and we started to chat. After a while another monger joined us, I think they knew each other since long, and they started to have a friendly conversation. After dinner I found her in the dance area, we sat for few minutes on the sofa where she was quite nice, GF-type, and after just few minutes I invited her to the room. There she gave me a covered BJ (I agreed on this, we neither raised the problem: for me it is perfectly ok, I do not like a risky life.), and touching that wonderful pussy and tits, that warm white skin, after just few minutes I asked for a missionary. She put some oil in her pussy, yet I felt her tight pussy and I came almost immediately. Some chat and then after less than maybe ten minutes we left. For me it was ok, but her attitude is very open and kind: I am sure if I had asked to stay the whole time she would not have objected.
Then I took a long relaxing session in the rest room, and after in the jacuzzi. One of the experiences I had in mind to try was with an african girl, and there came my next girl: Sheyla. I like her because she is a woman, yet her body is perfect, with all what I could desire. She came to me on the jacuzzi border's saying that she recognised me: maybe it was not true, but I liked to believe it. Soon after we were in the room, where she started a fantastic covered BJ. The parfum from her body and hair was very exciting, soon I reached my top and she offered me a doggy: looking at her in the mirrors and her fantastic ass was even more xciting. Finally she sat on me in the reverse position and I started to pound her well until I capitulated, although this time I could not come. However she responded to my hits as a real, wonderful woman, and the whole experience was absolutely fantastic. After she continued to hold my dick, praising its size and oiling it, something other women have done before.
After this second experience I spent a very pleasant time chatting with another ISG member, much more experienced than me, and having a pizza, which I find reasonable. I do not understand people who complain about food in Oase: I find it quite ok, I never had problems as I sometimes I have in other restaurants, and I do not expect a 5-stars restaurant from Oase. Finished dinner, while I was a little bit unsure about what to do (it was already 00:30 and I wanted to leave soon) I was approached by a smiling thailand girl, with long dark hair. I had never been with her before, and my rule with new girls is always to test them with the basic menu: 30 minutes and standard stuff (BJ, missionary, doggy). She accepted and then I went to the room with Selena (this is how she wanted to be called).
This was an experience similar to that with M*na: a very beautiful, relaxed young girl, with a silky skin and nice regular tits, nice to touch and kiss everywhere. This is what makes me on the right way to get hard. She also started with a very nice covered BJ, with little continuous hits of her tongue, wich made me get rocky. Then I asked if she liked doggy, and she answered "yes, I like to be well pounded" (she said this looking at my dck with an intense expression), or something similar. I started to pound this little nice girl well, and after some good time during which she was incredibly nice I finally capitulated. If you look for a smiling girl who reacts well to a man's tretament Selena is definitely a must.
Altogether, I think I will come back to Oase in the near future.
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[QUOTE=Euroknight;2148973]I have visited Oase last Friday. It was not my first visit, yet the last one dated back to three years ago. Oase is the only FKK I have visited, thus I can not compare with others: still I hope this report could be useful.
My experience has been absolutely positive. The atmosphere was very relaxed: no huge crowds as it happens during the fairs, and in general the girls were not pressing but cordially inviting. An attitude which I appreciated and put me in the right mood. I used a lot also the resting area during the intercourses. I arrived at around 6 pm on Friday and left the club at 1:30 am on Saturday, spending long times in the jacuzzi which often was completely empty.
The first girl I was with in the room was M*ina: unfortunately I do not remember exactly her name, but she is Rumanian, in her first twenties I would say, easy to recognize because she has two very beautiful eyes (and I think she is very aware of it! I met her at the restaurant and we started to chat. After a while another monger joined us, I think they knew each other since long, and they started to have a friendly conversation. After dinner I found her in the dance area, we sat for few minutes on the sofa where she was quite nice, GF-type, and after just few minutes I invited her to the room. There she gave me a covered BJ (I agreed on this, we neither raised the problem: for me it is perfectly ok, I do not like a risky life.), and touching that wonderful pussy and tits, that warm white skin, after just few minutes I asked for a missionary. She put some oil in her pussy, yet I felt her tight pussy and I came almost immediately. Some chat and then after less than maybe ten minutes we left. For me it was ok, but her attitude is very open and kind: I am sure if I had asked to stay the whole time she would not have objected..[/QUOTE]You are just killing us, we are paying for 30 minutes, and because the girl is a pro she made you come in 10 minutes and you left the room, please to use all the 30 minutes next time, even after you came were you not able to spend the remaining time with this very beautiful girl?
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[QUOTE=Euroknight;2148973]I have visited Oase last Friday. It was not my first visit, yet the last one dated back to three years ago. Oase is the only FKK I have visited, thus I can not compare with others: still I hope this report could be useful.
My experience has been absolutely positive. The atmosphere was very relaxed: no huge crowds as it happens during the fairs, and in general the girls were not pressing but cordially inviting. An attitude which I appreciated and put me in the right mood. I used a lot also the resting area during the intercourses. I arrived at around 6 pm on Friday and left the club at 1:30 am on Saturday, spending long times in the jacuzzi which often was completely empty.
The first girl I was with in the room was M*ina: unfortunately I do not remember exactly her name, but she is Rumanian, in her first twenties I would say, easy to recognize because she has two very beautiful eyes (and I think she is very aware of it! I met her at the restaurant and we started to chat. After a while another monger joined us, I think they knew each other since long, and they started to have a friendly conversation. After dinner I found her in the dance area, we sat for few minutes on the sofa where she was quite nice, GF-type, and after just few minutes I invited her to the room. There she gave me a covered BJ (I agreed on this, we neither raised the problem: for me it is perfectly ok, I do not like a risky life.), and touching that wonderful pussy and tits, that warm white skin, after just few minutes I asked for a missionary. She put some oil in her pussy, yet I felt her tight pussy and I came almost immediately. Some chat and then after less than maybe ten minutes we left. For me it was ok, but her attitude is very open and kind: I am sure if I had asked to stay the whole time she would not have objected..[/QUOTE]She likes to be well pounded so you come fast and leave the room after 10 minutes:
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Short note on my recent Frankfurt trip, visited Oase three times last week on Tuesday, Wednesday & Friday. I went to the room five times with four girls: Alina, Ramona and Raissa (Romanian) and then Selena (Thai), I repeated with Alina. All sessions were E50 for half hour with BBJ included. I clarified this with all girls in advance before going to room, this is necessary nowadays I believe, if not could easily get stuck with a CBJ only once in the room. I enjoyed all rooms particularly Alina, that is why I repeated her. There are definitely some real cows there though who won't go to the room for less than E100. One girl that comes to mind is Helena, a stunning blonde Moldovan girl, only problem is she damn well knows it! I observed her hunting out the Asians there, witnessed her in an argument with one by the money lockers presumably after a room. Overall though I do very much like Oase, good line up of girls, favourable ratio of girls to guys, and excellent facilities. I shall definitely be returning.
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[QUOTE=Mac75;2149392]Short note on my recent Frankfurt trip, visited Oase three times last week on Tuesday, Wednesday & Friday. I went to the room five times with four girls: Alina, Ramona and Raissa (Romanian) and then Selena (Thai), I repeated with Alina. All sessions were E50 for half hour with BBJ included. I clarified this with all girls in advance before going to room, this is necessary nowadays I believe, if not could easily get stuck with a CBJ only once in the room. I enjoyed all rooms particularly Alina, that is why I repeated her. There are definitely some real cows there though who won't go to the room for less than E100. One girl that comes to mind is Helena, a stunning blonde Moldovan girl, only problem is she damn well knows it! I observed her hunting out the Asians there, witnessed her in an argument with one by the money lockers presumably after a room. Overall though I do very much like Oase, good line up of girls, favourable ratio of girls to guys, and excellent facilities. I shall definitely be returning.[/QUOTE]Raissa is just a poor prostitute willing to be fucked from each guy for 50 euros even her arshhole is available for 50 at least for me, 0 erotic with her just holes to be filled, with 0 GFE, never will session her again. Enjoy your time in this very cheating place at least for me, definitely a no go club for me.
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Arkadia Hotel.
To those who like to stay in Hotel Arkadia.
I have found out this time that their router is blocking all sex websites. So if you want to browse to those sites, you might need to double think about it before you book.
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Arkadia
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2150168]To those who like to stay in Hotel Arkadia.
I have found out this time that their router is blocking all sex websites. So if you want to browse to those sites, you might need to double think about it before you book.[/QUOTE]It had been blocking the sites since last year. They were not blocked before that. Some hotels, like Excelsior, very near the Frankfurt railway station are also blocking them. I hope this practice is not going to spread.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2150302]It had been blocking the sites since last year. They were not blocked before that. Some hotels, like Excelsior, very near the Frankfurt railway station are also blocking them. I hope this practice is not going to spread.[/QUOTE]Just need to use a VPN like Astrill and all the problems are solved.
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4 days of ' Man vs. Condom'
I decided to make Oase my first stop this trip as it worked out logistically with cheap transport and reduced entry and would be a break from Sharks and a change of pace and all new pussy. I spent day numbers 1,3,6 and 7 here. I really did not expect to come here or spend more than one day but the club grew on me enough to take up four days and leave the Sharks behind and spend money that was intended for the poor Gypsies on a whole new set of Gypsies. Overall I was very pleased with the Gypsies in this club and I usually got there early and would leave before the crowds pour in. I know I may miss out on some talent but it appears that the night shift starts rolling in around 5 which means by the time I am ready to go to the room for the last time I have had a chance to see the LU from day to night. After the last punt of the night it became tradition to shove a pizza down my throat prior to the taxi ride home which was a 45 e flat fee all four nights. I had a great time here, talked to a lot of guys and met a lot of the girls and have zero complaints about the club as the one negative they have no control over. Each time I stepped outside to use the Sauna / steam it stunk of cow manure, hopefully that smell is temporary and simply fertilizer for the spring crops in the area as I do not remember smelling shit like that in the few times I was there over summer 2016.
I often read all about Oase vs. Sharks and Americans back home ask me all the time which club to go to or which one is better. I would simply say especially as an American that having to choose between Oase and Sharks on their worst days is like asking a starving guy whether he would like to wolf down a filet mignon at Flemings Steak House or walk a few blocks and let a delicious cut of Lawry's Prime Rib melt in his mouth. You can not lose. Try both if you have the time. I can see why guys go back and forth between these two clubs and mix it up. I had fun in both gardens in the summertime. I enjoy the food at both. The pizzas are a bonus at Oase after your last fuck of the night and Dieter's sauna treatments are a bonus as well down the road. I do not know if Oase offers such. For non smokers it appears there are some smoke free areas in Oase but I prefer watching girls smoke, sometime when I fuck them. I will probably toy around in both clubs and mix it up myself as I have a few Sharks I wish to go visit and will in time have a few Oase girls to add to the mix and one day crown an Oase Queen. If I had one night only, I would give the edge to Oase as I think ultimately ' you can squeeze more juice' out of the Oase girls, I think that Euro would go a tad further. I do think from a pure optics level Sharks takes the prize home but not by much and that delta is more than made up with what is in my opinion a better attitude overall. I also like my girls a little more on the trashy side than the classy side and I think the Oase girls are dirtier. A bunch of fun tramps. There was much less of a rush and I never got that feeling from any Oase girl whether I fucked her or not that ' she was doing me a favor by working as a prostitute. ' There is nothing wrong with either place but I think at Sharks one needs be prepared to lace up the boxing gloves just a tad tighter. Either place is a score but at Oase I felt surrounded by a bunch of fun dirty tramps and in Sharks I feel surrounded by a bunch of platinum pussy but they are prettier. Either way, both places knock the living shit out of anything within thousands of miles from where I sit in misery. IMHO a newbie would fare better at Oase but as a general rule of thumb if one sticks to their guns one can find whatever they desire at either club.
I found the LU to very appealing and varied with something for every taste. I tend to lean to the service level on the perceived service / optics scale and then slowly work on the optics once I get my feet wet and established in a club. I enjoyed sitting in the main lounge enjoying the eye candy but for educational purposes of which girls were the best I felt the best seat in the house was on the deck just above the whirlpool and restaurant. This gave me the opportunity to see the girls after they got fucked and paid as it is the only way they have to go to drop the used towels in the bin and hit the girls lockers. Likewise it is the only way for them to come out. The best hookers in any establishment are the ones choking on some guys bone or getting cocks shoved up their pussies non stop and are busy not the ones twiddling their thumbs sitting on their tails so sitting in this area or below at the little tables next to the restaurant lets you see the busiest tutes to help with future selection. I do have a little harem in mind to form and about 5 candidates including one that I fucked and I do not think many are brand names except one gorgeous one with a flawless body, the mystery girl.
The mystery girl situates herself in mainly four places. When you first walk in the club there is a couch I think it is a non smoking couch. She sits there. She also sits at the bar on the club side not the side parallel to the entryway or where the towels / robes are. She also sits at a little round table also non smoking perhaps next to the Africans in front of all those white couches. . I noticed no tattoos. She is a blond of short / medium hair length. I venture to guess between 23 and 27 years of age. In heels she seems taller than the rest. The final spot seems to be her standing spot, right there on the floor between the pole / stage and her three sitting spots. She was unemployed constantly and there is no way she was on the unemployment line due to lack of demand rather choice. I think she is saving her pussy for big pay days as she attacked the few Asians right away. She showed no interest whatsoever in the white men. The Asian guests were a very small number and she looked absolutely miserable. I can only conclude the mystery girl is one of Oase's Princesses and for lack of better words one of their ' Pole Dancers. ' She sticks out like a sore thumb. Whoever she is she could be touring the USA getting $500-$750 an hour booked days in advance for multi hours as well. I think she passes on Cheap Charlies for the most part as she makes up the slow times with huge paydays which would explain why she was ' unemployed'.
The first girl I banged was a Samira and I think she was Hungarian. Decent looking girl and decent body a little on the trashy side has long dark hair and a staircase shaped tattoo on her back from the bottom left to the top right. She told me it was her first night. And I have a ten inch cock the width of a coke can. Her lie was proven to be wrong as she told a friend of mine she had been there a year. Seems just about every girl I meet just started on the job. I do not like new girls anyway unless they are on a red couch in Dietzenbach where today employment levels hit new highs for 2018 as there were 14 Gyspies on the couches servicing probably 15 men each (or more). I actually like the high mileage ones, in fact I would venture to say that one of my top two Sharks has probably been fucked more times than any other Shark and if not for sure in the top 2 percentile especially since she is still a steal for 50 e and fucking dozens and dozens of Germans and Turks every month willing to let herself get pounded for a full 30 minutes left and right all night long from dinnertime until the early morning hours adds up to a lot of money. Samira was a good session. Good blowjob, took her time, let me fuck her hard until I lost my hard on and needed a handjob to finish. I remember she had a very nice set of meat hangers. Pretty stretched out for her first night on the job. Those lips were profound but still not as profound as Darmstadt's Domenica's, although Domenica is currently on probation for improper rushed behavior so she had to sit the last trip out while she saw 100 notes tossed around that could have been hers when she normally gets just 50. I find when my wives come off probation they often behave much better and performance elevates to a level higher than when their probationary period started. Sometimes we need to punish our favorites to reprogram their minds in to providing better service. I ate dinner after Samira's handjob I needed since I failed to fill up the rubber.
Condom 1-Man 0.
In no particular order:
I was bouncing around between Oase and the Adult Day Care Center with a guy from Ireland who seemed to have luck on his side this week so I played copy cat. He is sort of like me and will fuck just about anything with a pulse regardless of color, shape, size etc. He had just completed a 50 e Cheap Charlie Special pointed the girl out so I took the Romanian Ramona to the room. Little meat on her bones and ok looking but for a 50 e slam she was just fine, if this guy gives a green light on a girl that is good enough for me. As I was informed her BJ was not the greatest but it did feel good and was administered in the way I prefer. Sex with her was good but I just can not get off with a condom, two years ago this was not an issue when I filled condoms up with DNA in 20 of 21 attempts between Mainhatten, Artemis and Oase in 2016. I needed a handjob to finish. Condom 2-Man 0.
The next girl was a repeat of the prior play, let the Irish guy do the work. I took Alina to the room after him, think she was a Romanian as well, medium / long reddish hair seemed to have spurts where she would fuck 3 or 4 guys in a row than nothing for hours. Her blowjob was much better. Her attitude in the room was superb. I would have done her again but I did not do any repeats. She had a very nice feeling pussy and I was thrilled as I felt a good orgasm coming on to fill up the condom only to be unable to get over that last hump and blow my load, ran out of energy and asked her if she could turbo boost the finish for an extra 50 e, a minute or two later she finished me off and got a crisp 100 e note. Condom 3-Man 0.
I was sitting in the whirlpool when my next vagina to poke appeared. She was working on a guy who had just finished eating, was getting rejected as I saw him rub his belly signaling that he was full. She walked away and glanced at me and I returned the favor. I wanted that pussy. She had a very nice smile and eyes, a nice body and very nice long braided hair probably extensions. She came up and sat down on the edge of the hot tub and lowered herself on her feet in the cowgirl position basically. I got a great view of that bright pink pussy contrasting beautifully with her smooth skin. I knew my tongue would be in there. I also knew it would be in there for a while and another crisp 100 note would be donated. From looking at her I was not sure if I would be speaking English or Spanish as she appeared to be from either from Jamaica or the DR. I need to realize I am not in the Americas nor the Caribbean and Africa is much closer which is where she was from or said she was from. She claimed to be from Ghana. I have not fucked a black chick in ages and getting a black chick of quality in the United States at a price point between a street girl and an overpriced platinum pussy $500 plus an hour ripoff is near impossible unless you want the garbage driven here from Dallas and Houston by pimps. If I am going for the dark meat then I want quality and the Oase Africans IMHO are all good candidates and better than the Africans at Sharks. I have no clue what this girls name was but I told her I needed some time and I would find her later. She departed and I hopped out of the water, went downstairs and swallowed a 100 MG generic Viagra pill and sucked down a Kamagra gel pack. Someone else in the club was also popping gel packs as I saw no less than 10 empty packs over four days lying around.
I took the Ghana girl to the room about 9 Pm or so for an hour. I ate her pussy for a good 20 minutes at least and she soaked the bed and her pink colored lips turned to a purple and doubled in thickness. She gave a great blowjob and was a great fuck. She rode me very well and we had a great rhythm going but still needed a handjob to finish. Close but no cigar. Condom 4-Man 0.
The last Oase girl I did was the best one. I knew she would offer the service I desired as she had already worked on my Irish friend so I knew her name and the scoop with her but he was working another girl. However, I rode his coattails again with the information when the girl approached me in the restaurant and said ' so you are from America' and I said ' Yes, nice to meet you Donna. ' She asked me how I knew her name so I asked her how she knew I was American. She told me the girls talk, I told her the guys do too. She asked me if it was my first time there like all of them do and I told her it was my fourth day there that week and she said ' yes I know, I mean is it your first trip to Oase. ' These girls do not miss a beat. Nothing slips them by. Now Donna may not be everyone's cup of tea she has slightly above average looks, wears glasses and has some inked name on her neck. Look for the girl wearing the brightest red lipstick in the club, they suck cock really well. She was not very pushy very laid back in fact and we discussed a 50 e room. I told her to come find me later in a few hours. She was unemployed all night and was not hunting too hard but I noticed she always came up to check on me and not lose her prey. I think there are more Euros for her in the future and she knows so too. Finally I signaled her over to the couch and we got up and went towards the room. She delivered one hell of a 50 e session, a slow passionate blowjob and she even pretended to enjoy herself, got a little pussy licking in and got to fuck her in two positions, not too bad for 50 e and a bargain by all means in my book. She had a nice tight pussy but these nuts are not easy to pop like at Day Care, I got frustrated, pulled out, tossed the condom to the side and asked her if she would like to earn 50 more euro and met no resistance. My cum was soon in a paper towel in the garbage can and she was handed a crisp 100 note. For me I would certainly repeat for an hour however this time; Condom 5-Man 0.
I have a month and change to get back in shape to fuck with rubbers now. In the meantime the plan is to fuck only covered Austin girls for the next 30 something days. If I have to jerk off with condoms I will. I need to avoid another skunk. I need to go 20-1 again not 0-5. The other day at HEB (Our Rewe) I purchased a 12 pack of extra thick Durex condoms, a bottle of lube and right now somewhere on a truck out for delivery is a Fleshlight molded to the shape of pornstar Brandi Love's vagina en route to my house. I have all the props I need to practice.
Now that I am back one week and rested it is back to basics and play in the minor leagues for one month has started. Yesterday I benched my AO players and I hired two new girls (about 4-6 more will be hired for this part time job) that offer bareback blowjobs and covered full service at a great discount Cheap Charlie rate to practice fucking with condoms until my flight leaves and I will be stopping one week prior to allow testosterone and libido levels to reach peak levels. Yesterday was a very good day as I went to see one of them and pounded her pussy for 20 minutes and she did not care about the fact I went over my 15 minute session by 5 minutes. This is what we call couch time in Texas. I was a hybrid of a Turk and a German. For starters I was cheap and arranged for the minimum amount of time at the lowest possible rate with the highest level of service. Secondly to emulate the Turks I fucked her as hard as I could from start until finish non-stop and to emulate the Germans I made sure not to cum in 5 to 10 minutes like a Turk and instead made sure to get my full time not wasting one second and actually rudely went over my time and took advantage of 5 minutes of ' free Texas couch time' and I made sure just like a good Turk or German would not to leave a tip under any circumstances. I also made that evil latex work hard putting hard wear and tear on it for 20 minutes. I filled that sucker up no problem at all pounding the Austin tute like an animal in a rage to make up for my anger at myself for my terrible performance at FKK Oase. I think today I will go fuck the other one and see if I can fill up a condom two days in a row and push myself but for now it has been a great end to the week , the DOW closed up over 400 points with no Friday post lunch selloff and whoever this mystery girl is I can probably afford her now for two hours and fill up two condoms and tip her. As much as I can not stand Texas I must say we have the cheapest fucking pussy for sale in this country so I plan to fill up 20 rubbers the next 30 days. If I can not fill up a minimum of 17 of 20 rubbers this month than I do not deserve to be let thru passport control next month. The hardest part will probably be finding girls here who actually use rubbers after all no one hates condoms more than German men, Turkish Men and add Texans to that list. I am proud to say I can go to bed tonight with the score:
Man 1- Condom 0.
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Copied this from the Artemis thread. Maybe it will get some people to think about their reporting details.
[QUOTE=Danny227;2151068]In general, keep your room benefits private, girls don't provide all guests with the same experience in the room, some get more and some get less. It isn't nice to give such details here on the front page of the newspaper. General information and extreme girls to be careful from is fair game, IMO. Extreme girls, meaning girls that are really terrible in behavior and unfair with the guests. Keeping BJ experiences to yourselves and to private messages seems to be the approach the benefit all the most. This is only my opinion and not everybody must accept it, so please no attacks. Good weekend to all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TeFab456;2149787]Was visiting Berlin last weekend and met a girl in another venue who told me she had been working at Artemis for a while. Mentioned one pertinent detail: girls who get mentioned doing BBBJ will lose their job if management finds out. She doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago, but still. It should be considered when writing a report here.[/QUOTE]
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Wow Cowboy. Don't let the condom get the best of you. There are some incredible condoms out there that feel like nothing. Maybe you should carry your own?
Anyway, your plan is a good one. Condoms take practice.
I am very glad to see that you like Oase. Last year was a disaster for me there. I think in part it was cultural shock because things changed in the past 5-years since my last visit and I was not aware of the changes and then I had some bad luck with girls. If it is summer time I would try Oase again and World. Great reporting.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2151209]Wow Cowboy. Don't let the condom get the best of you. There are some incredible condoms out there that feel like nothing. Maybe you should carry your own?
Anyway, your plan is a good one. Condoms take practice.
I am very glad to see that you like Oase. Last year was a disaster for me there. I think in part it was cultural shock because things changed in the past 5-years since my last visit and I was not aware of the changes and then I had some bad luck with girls. If it is summer time I would try Oase again and World. Great reporting.[/QUOTE]I need to order those Japanese ones that cost like $5 or $6 each. They can probably ship here in time for departure. The sad thing is I brought my own. I brought the thinnest ones they sell here for the most part only to still fail. The reason I bought the extra thick Durex ones for practice with Brandi Love is pretty much the same reason a batter in the on deck circle weighs down his bat so that when he steps to the plate the practice swings were harder than the pitch that was coming.
It took a second visit to grow on me but Oase was great. My guess is service levels and attitudes and LU's can vary often and sometimes one club is better than the other but this time Oase for me killed it. The girls were not a bunch of stuck up like elsewhere. IMHO. However, this probably shifts over the months back and forth and I can only try both whereas the home team Germans and local Euro guys can bounce back and forth anytime much more aware of who is who and which club is peaking at any given time.
We will see how today goes, I sent out 5 text messages to Austin girls who use condoms, will step in to the batting cage with one of them when they wake up. I think I will do a Latina today with a giant pussy. If I can cum in her I can cum in anyone.
I do need to discover the Oase girls with the largest pussies and meatiest pussy lips. I am sure there are plenty of them.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2151215]I need to order those Japanese ones that cost like $5 or $6 each. They can probably ship here in time for departure. The sad thing is I brought my own. I brought the thinnest ones they sell here for the most part only to still fail. The reason I bought the extra thick Durex ones for practice with Brandi Love is pretty much the same reason a batter in the on deck circle weighs down his bat so that when he steps to the plate the practice swings were harder than the pitch that was coming.
It took a second visit to grow on me but Oase was great. My guess is service levels and attitudes and LU's can vary often and sometimes one club is better than the other but this time Oase for me killed it. The girls were not a bunch of stuck up kunts like elsewhere. IMHO. However, this probably shifts over the months back and forth and I can only try both whereas the home team Germans and local Euro guys can bounce back and forth anytime much more aware of who is who and which club is peaking at any given time.
We will see how today goes, I sent out 5 text messages to Austin girls who use condoms, will step in to the batting cage with one of them when they wake up. I think I will do a Latina today with a giant pussy. If I can cum in her I can cum in anyone.
I do need to discover the Oase girls with the largest pussies and meatiest pussy lips. I am sure there are plenty of them.[/QUOTE]I never get the big deal about coming in a condom even it is during FS. CIM is so much more enjoyable and is an easier nut. It is more expensive but worth it in my books. Anyway for me 1 CIM is worth 2 CFSs.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2151201]Copied this from the Artemis thread. Maybe it will get some people to think about their reporting details.[/QUOTE]It has always been the case that girls that provide limited services get jealous of the girls who provide less limited services. This has nothing to do with the new law. This is the nature of marketplace competition.
[QUOTE] Was visiting Berlin last weekend and met a girl in another venue who told me she had been working at Artemis for a while. Mentioned one pertinent detail: girls who get mentioned doing BBBJ will lose their job if management finds out. She doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago, but still. It should be considered when writing a report here.[/QUOTE]So a girl who used to work at place X is telling guys, essentially, that they will have a harder time finding BBBJ at place X than her current place. Again. The nature of competition. And even this report is soft. "doesn't know if this policy is still as strict as a few weeks ago" is hardly definitive.
There were guys who thought reporting BBBJ was a bad idea even before the new law. But I'm sure they had no problem using the information about BBBJ other guys posted.
The only thing not reporting on BBBJ will accomplish is making BBBJ harder to find, more expensive, and less likely others will report on it as well.
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So I'm still waiting impatiently for your BBBJ reports!
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2151344]It has always been the case that girls that provide limited services get jealous of the girls who provide less limited services. This has nothing to do with the new law. This is the nature of marketplace competition.[/QUOTE]It has everything to do with the new law. The law change may be in some cases just an excuse to limit services or charge extra, but it still triggered the change in behaviour.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2151215]I need to order those Japanese ones that cost like $5 or $6 each. They can probably ship here in time for departure. [/QUOTE]Ebay is your friend. [URL]https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=sagami[/URL]+002&_sop=16. They were even cheaper last year, when I bought 19 boxes of 12 condoms each for $158.
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;2151356]It has everything to do with the new law. The law change may be in some cases just an excuse to limit services or charge extra, but it still triggered the change in behaviour.[/QUOTE]Girls service as compared to other clubs is good in Oase these day. It is the restaurant and bar service that really puts a dent on the situation. I have to wait for a drink for a few minutes while the bar guy flirts with the girls, so I travel to the other bar only to have this guy with shisha shirt do me this huge favor and eventually walk from the other side of the bar to give me water. Terrible service, but girls are pretty good these days. Well, can't have everything be perfect.
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Best feeling Condoms. Can you bring your own?
[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2151215]I need to order those Japanese ones that cost like $5 or $6 each.[/QUOTE]I am like you Kowboy- the condom is just a killer. As another guy said, I love a good CIM, so I usually go there for the finish, but it would be nice if fucking didn't feel like nothing at all, which is the case with most garden variety condoms.
I posted questions about this on *** and actually got some good advice (including the Japanese ones being too small for a Western male with any degree of thickness). There was even one guy who did a complete condom study with the local girls- much like you are doing, but he used all different brands to find the best feeling ones and posted the results. Here is the consensus, compiled from comments, plus his study.
Durex Extra sensitvie.
Skyn.
Trojan Bareskin.
It seems all three of these are similar style and not made of latex, so the ladies like them also -- they feel better and don't smell as bad.
I don't have firsthand knowledge here, but this was a knowledgeable crowd so I intend to try this in cumming weeks, pun intended!
Do the WGs in Oase and Sharks allow you to bring your own? Anyone know?
P.S. Kowboy, I also agree with your point about Oases / Sharks and FKK in general- the guys that complain have obviously not spent much time in the US, where you get spotty service for 5 X the cost. FKKs are god's gift to man.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;2151385]Girls service as compared to other clubs is good in Oase these day. It is the restaurant and bar service that really puts a dent on the situation. I have to wait for a drink for a few minutes while the bar guy flirts with the girls, so I travel to the other bar only to have this guy with shisha shirt do me this huge favor and eventually walk from the other side of the bar to give me water. Terrible service, but girls are pretty good these days. Well, can't have everything be perfect.[/QUOTE]Yes, improving behavior from Oase girls, maybe because not crowded.
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;2151356]It has everything to do with the new law. The law change may be in some cases just an excuse to limit services or charge extra, but it still triggered the change in behaviour.[/QUOTE]What change? What real evidence of a significant change is there? Where are the reports that "I used to go to X, why, and Z, and had no problem finding BBBJ, but now it's gone"? If there was a significant change we would have more than hearsay confirming such. The only change I see is an uptick in guys telling others what they should and shouldn't post.
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Yes, actually you're the one always telling the others to post their BBBJ reports if I'm correct.
As for the new KK-dilemna, I've been using Manix (or Mates) Skyn for a while and I'm satisfied with them, despite the fact that they really STINK. 99% of the girls accept my condoms (but maybe in Oase / Sharks they'll create a new extra for this). The Skyn Elite is big enough for me, I don't use the Skyn King Size anymore. I tried some time ago the Pasante Unique, I destroyed it after 5 minutes. The thing was ripped apart around my dick. I tried the Protex 0. 02 (same as Sagami but made for the european market so they are a little bigger), it's pretty impossible to squeeze my dick into one of these things. And when I do it it hurts like hell during the insertion because the stuff is not elastic enough. So you can probably forget about their normal size, unless you have a pencil in your pants. When I used regular condoms, the normal size feels too tight. For your future Brandi Love sessions, I suggest you use some kind of Fleshlight with normal condoms (not very thin) so you become more sensitive when you use extra thin condoms. And no more hand! You'll get the death grip syndrome!
EDIT : Trojan Bareskin are made of latex. You can find the Skyn condoms under the Billy Boy brand.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2151471]What change? What real evidence of a significant change is there? Where are the reports that "I used to go to X, why, and Z, and had no problem finding BBBJ, but now it's gone"? If there was a significant change we would have more than hearsay confirming such. The only change I see is an uptick in guys telling others what they should and shouldn't post.[/QUOTE]Your post here makes me think you haven't visited an FKK at all. And if you have, it was a long long time ago.
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Aoni condoms are great. It was somebody in here who tipped me of on them. Best latex condom I've tried. But go for the XL one. I used the normal sized ones for a bit too long and it really hurts the stamina when having a condom that is too small.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2151344]
The only thing not reporting on BBBJ will accomplish is making BBBJ harder to find, more expensive, and less likely others will report on it as well.[/QUOTE]
To clarify, I think the BBBJ issue has finally subsided at Sharks, Oase, GT, Aca but probably not other clubs such as Mainhattan, World, and Palace. I hear Samya still has issues.
But I take issue with the rest of your post. I have no idea how not reporting something good makes it more expensive. Please explain that logic.
Next, so you would only seek out girls that are mentioned here? How hard is it to tell a girl you don't do CBJ and you don't pay for BBBJ. Scared to talk to girls whose names aren't familiar? Stranger Danger! Growing a pair helps.
Look, if I say she provided great service without upsell, that should probably be enough to steer you that way. Can you not do some evaluation yorself to see if perhaps this girl would be good specifically for you? Do you need to know that I licked her asshole for 15 minutes and that she rubbed my prostate with 3 fingers rather than 2? Sicko!
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2151561]To clarify, I think the BBBJ issue has finally subsided at Sharks, Oase, GT, Aca but probably not other clubs such as Mainhattan, World, and Palace. I hear Samya still has issues.
But I take issue with the rest of your post. I have no idea how not reporting something good makes it more expensive. Please explain that logic.
[/QUOTE]I have had 9 sessions in three days and not one CBJ and I can't remember if anyone has suggested it. Also, be careful in your reports, Takedown. You risk offending guys that are illiterate and cannot express themselves through the written word and others that are too lazy to try. Besides, this board is for arguing only. LOL.
Yes, this CBJ law is nonsensical and I would like to understand the science behind this nonsense.
It's time to rise up brothers and sisters!
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2151471]What change? What real evidence of a significant change is there? Where are the reports that "I used to go to X, why, and Z, and had no problem finding BBBJ, but now it's gone"? If there was a significant change we would have more than hearsay confirming such. The only change I see is an uptick in guys telling others what they should and shouldn't post.[/QUOTE]I think the situation is cool now but are you telling me that no girl ever tried to upsell you BBBJ after July 1st? You must be a super VIP, you stud 😉. I know all of my monger friends have had that issue numerous times. In August Lara definitely expected 100 from our half hour session citing that I should know BBBJ was more. I only gave her 50 since we never explicitly discussed it. That same day Kathy definitely tried also but in the end made me promise to do an hour to get BBBJ. I obliged. At Aca at least half the girls at Aca did but their lack of clients definitely put an end to that quick. It was a problem at Samya too, may still be.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2151571]I have had 9 sessions in three days and not one CBJ and I can't remember if anyone has suggested it. Also, be careful in your reports, Takedown. You risk offending guys that are illiterate and cannot express themselves through the written word and others that are too lazy to try. Besides, this board is for arguing only. LOL.
Yes, this CBJ law is nonsensical and I would like to understand the science behind this nonsense.
It's time to rise up brothers and sisters![/QUOTE]I agree that by Febuary, I no longer had that issue at Oase but it definitely was a problem during the second half of 2017 when the law was fresh.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2151575]I think the situation is cool now but are you telling me that no girl ever tried to upsell you BBBJ after July 1st? You must be a super VIP, you stud 😉. I know all of my monger friends have had that issue numerous times. In August Lara definitely expected 100 from our half hour session citing that I should know BBBJ was more. I only gave her 50 since we never explicitly discussed it. That same day Kathy definitely tried also but in the end made me promise to do an hour to get BBBJ. I obliged. At Aca at least half the girls at Aca did but their lack of clients definitely put an end to that quick. It was a problem at Samya too, may still be.[/QUOTE]I haven't been here since last March. I was scared to death that I was going to get awful service and believe me, nobody has offered to do me for free. I am just saying that the CBJ law was my greatest fear upon my return and it is not an issue this trip. Things change fast. I think in Sharks a few girls said no BBBJ for the 30 minute 50 Euro dates but many would and all would do it for a 1-hour date.
So the only impact the law has had on the FKK scene is that it has given the RO women another bargaining chip for the upsell to a 1-hour date.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2151579]No, I am not saying that. I haven't been here since last March. I was scared to death that I was going to get awful service and believe me, nobody has offered to do me for free. I am just saying that the CBJ law was my greatest fear upon my return and it is not an issue this trip. Things change fast. I think in Sharks a few girls said no BBBJ for the 30 minute 50 Euro dates but many would and all would do it for a 1-hour date.[/QUOTE]Agreed, the situation has gotten better as of late but the one hour requirement is still lingering. 50 euro guys have it much tougher.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2151579]I haven't been here since last March. I was scared to death that I was going to get awful service and believe me, nobody has offered to do me for free. I am just saying that the CBJ law was my greatest fear upon my return and it is not an issue this trip. Things change fast. I think in Sharks a few girls said no BBBJ for the 30 minute 50 Euro dates but many would and all would do it for a 1-hour date.
So the only impact the law has had on the FKK scene is that it has given the RO women another bargaining chip for the upsell to a 1-hour date.[/QUOTE]LOL, just realized I jokingly made references to prostates and ass licking. I just realized that you reported both of those things. Unintentional referendes to you. Must have been subliminal, LOL. Nice reports.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2151579]So the only impact the law has had on the FKK scene is that it has given the RO women another bargaining chip for the upsell to a 1-hour date.[/QUOTE]It gives authorities additional reasons to harass clubs as they are allowing illegal practices. Sometimes it's worth thinking ahead.
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I think I give information on this forum, even I can't anymore name some of my girls to protect them from so jealous readers who tell to girls bullshits about me, but I agree with Rogue, giving sexual details about girls services can make them problems with other girls jealousy, like for Lucy. De at Palace, or staff if they are controlled about new law. Some of my very regulars know I'm a writer, for my respect for them and as some ask, I don't give details about private sex in room.
I have my eyes and brain to choose girls, my behavior and manners to get from them, I don t need to follow others list or experience. Besides, all girls don t give the same with all of us, anal sex with Asian size is not the same than with African size.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2151471]What change? What real evidence of a significant change is there? Where are the reports that "I used to go to X, why, and Z, and had no problem finding BBBJ, but now it's gone"? If there was a significant change we would have more than hearsay confirming such. The only change I see is an uptick in guys telling others what they should and shouldn't post.[/QUOTE]BBBJ was the default up until the law change. In over a decade of frequent club visits I was never offered CBJ before the law changed. A week ago Kira told me she wouldn't go to the room with me if I wanted BBBJ, so I refused her. The old service is still offered by many, if not most, but it's no longer a given. The most common issue appears to be with obtaining BBBJ in a 50 Euro session. There's plenty of examples in reports since the law change of negotiations over BBBJ, but here's one example.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3172-FKK-Mainhattan-Frankfurt&p=2132278&viewfull=1#post2132278[/URL]
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2151344]The only thing not reporting on BBBJ will accomplish is making BBBJ harder to find, more expensive, and less likely others will report on it as well.[/QUOTE]If there's been no change to the status quo, then why do you need reports to help you find BBBJ?
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2151586]LOL, just realized I jokingly made references to prostates and ass licking. I just realized that you reported both of those things. Unintentional referendes to you. Must have been subliminal, LOL. Nice reports.[/QUOTE]LOL, no offense mate. Yes, I have violated every hole now and I have even had my hole violated fro good measure. I had to like a couple more at LR (see report.).
[QUOTE=Mac75;2151538]. Before my trip to Oase last week I had a scan of the previous ten pages of posts to see if I could pick up any tips on girls and services received and I couldn't see anything. We need to get back to sharing useful information with each other about girls / services / costs in an uninhibited manner without self appointed moderators such as yourself interfering and deciding for us what is right or wrong. Enough said![/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. We are here to help our brothers. If we are just here to insult and argue and act miserable than fuck it, I will quit. I really had to dig for anything useful. Thank God for the PM function. Right now the reports seem to be flowing and the cynic in me believes that the self appointed moderators don't like it. Maybe we are sharing info on their favorites and they would prefer us tourists get ripped off by Melanie at Sharks type ladies and go home dissatisfied and then they can tell us that we need to learn how to seduce cat-house girls.
BTW - The girls are passing info about us all the time. I have caught them at both place I have visited the past 3 days. Why do I have to be the one that is disadvantaged?
Note from Jackson: The reports must flow!
Let's have some fun!
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2151647] Thank God for the PM function. Right now the reports seem to be flowing and the cynic in me believes that the self appointed moderators don't like it. Maybe we are sharing info on their favorites and they would prefer us tourists get ripped off by Melanie at Sharks type ladies Why do I have to be the one that is disadvantaged?
[/QUOTE]It's been alluded to that it's better to PM some info and most who mention that certain topics being taboo happily give out info via PM. Information on bad providers is openly posted so you're not disadvantaged. I'm no moderator, probably always on the brink of moderation actually, but those that go enough would rather not see some people fuck it all up.
But like another poster mentioned to you, pointing out a provider for giving 50 euro anal at Sharks will probably poor form.
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2151647]
BTW - The girls are passing info about us all the time. I have caught them at both place I have visited the past 3 days. Why do I have to be the one that is disadvantaged?
[/QUOTE]Absolutely true. Many customers seem to have rivalries with one another over certain WGs, so don't want to share info. Other mongers choose to self-censor to maintain their anonymity, citing issues they have had with WGs or more often other mongers.
Best info is usually shared inside the clubs with other men. At minimum there is no confusion, because we are both rudely looking at same WG as we are talking about her. But this works better at smaller clubs where there is a higher proportion of regulars (although Sharks Sunday used to be okay for this in the past). At certain clubs, WGs that I approach for the first time, will say, "I saw you talking to (some customer who she knows as a regular). Were you two gossiping about WGs?"
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[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2151647]Right now the reports seem to be flowing and the cynic in me believes that the self appointed moderators don't like it. Maybe we are sharing info on their favorites and they would prefer us tourists get ripped off by Melanie at Sharks type ladies and go home dissatisfied and then they can tell us that we need to learn how to seduce cat-house girls..[/QUOTE]Au contraire, the more business the good girls get the longer they stay. So report as much as possible, good or bad girls, we will all benefit from it. Me with my opposing pov on BBBJ reporting is another topic.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2151677]Absolutely true. Many customers seem to have rivalries with one another over certain WGs, so don't want to share info. Other mongers choose to self-censor to maintain their anonymity, citing issues they have had with WGs or more often other mongers.
Best info is usually shared inside the clubs with other men. At minimum there is no confusion, because we are both rudely looking at same WG as we are talking about her. But this works better at smaller clubs where there is a higher proportion of regulars (although Sharks Sunday used to be okay for this in the past). At certain clubs, WGs that I approach for the first time, will say, "I saw you talking to (some customer who she knows as a regular). Were you two gossiping about WGs?"[/QUOTE]Excellent post all points I wholeheartedly agree on especially the mention of the rivalries between guys. I do not understand (well I actually do I have been there been done that and learned from my mistakes) why some of these guys are getting emotionally attached to these girls some to the point of obsession as is the case with one Princess who is not at Oase and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out who.
I will add to your list of not sharing information is some guys simply develop sentiments and can not bear the thought of a random poster writing how his favorite girl sucked some other guys cock, got fucked by him hard and did in her in the rear and shot his wad of cum down her throat although that is what these girls get paid to do in the first place. These girls do not give a fuck about us just our Euros and IMO guys are best off leaving their experiences at the club door when they leave. I would much rather read reports than guys trying to get one up on another to try to show ownership of a girl or that they are ' liked ' more by letting other guys know they saw a WG in the mountains on FB or another WG is hanging out in a certain city now per Instagram or another WG went sailing off the Italian coast because frankly I do not care. That is their personal life.
Why not be mongers and talk about fucking them and share the stories because your favorite working girl as I type is not thinking of you just getting paid by whatever john right now has her in doggy ramming his massive thick cock deep in to her and she probably loves it while she howls and cums without you.
Anyway along the lines of your very comment McAdonis my mystery girl was identified, positive ID 100 percent and my description was right on. I was told not to post or share her name and normally I would like to for discussion purposes but since asked not to I will respect this guy's wishes who did decide to share his regular's name. He told me the reason not to post it is because two guys maybe a few more on here in specific would get upset and tell her she is being discussed on the ISG which they apparently do not like. (Back home we call these guys White Knights) Respectful of this guy willing to share, I will respect his wishes.
Anyway, for all those dreamers there is no wedding chapel in Sharks and the ISG is not a dating site. At least not for me. I believe in writing reviews and giving back the best I can for what I take, is that not the purpose?
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2151715]Au contraire, the more business the good girls get the longer they stay. So report as much as possible, good or bad girls, we will all benefit from it. Me with my opposing pov on BBBJ reporting is another topic.[/QUOTE]Yes, the more reports the better. KK, Lanthano and others are doing some real reporting.
As for the reporting on BBBJ, I would be a pathetic specimen if I could only get the services I wanted if somebody else had already reported on it, as Samplerr says.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2151590]It gives authorities additional reasons to harass clubs as they are allowing illegal practices. Sometimes it's worth thinking ahead.[/QUOTE]There have just recently been a coordinated string of raids in several towns, allegedly focusing on trafficking and illegal working. Press reports have referred to this enforcement as being made easier by the new law (registration requirements). The new law is said to be having an effect, and (my opinion) will gradually increase its effects over time.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2151528]Your post here makes me think you haven't visited an FKK at all. And if you have, it was a long long time ago.[/QUOTE]Your post here makes me think you have no actual specific evidence, and so you attack the poster rather than the post.
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The question was asked as to why not posting about BBBJ or BBFS (AO) would lead to those services being harder to find or more expensive if found.
This goes back to the basic phenomena that any kind of prohibition brings. During the alcohol prohibition in the US what happened? People didn't stop drinking. Booze was a bit harder to find. It became more expensive. It became the basis for all manner of criminality. The downside of prohibition was so bad that it overwhelmed the anticipated upside, and after a few years was abandoned.
It should be obvious that if X goes unreported, it becomes more difficult to find. The main point of posts on boards like this is to make services easier to find at a fair price. Those who will find it the most difficult will be those guys just starting out. And at one point we were all just guys starting out.
What some of those who insist reporting on BB services is a bad thing are really saying it's bad FOR THEM. (Or so they think.) The attitude is "I've got mine, and if sharing will endanger that, I'd rather not share. " This is not returning the favor of sharing info as it was shared with them at one time.
So self-censorship obviously makes BB services harder to find. No info is no info. But does it cause prices to go up? Yes, and for the same reason. Self-censorship ends up limiting things on the supply side, and when supply goes down and demand remains static, prices go up. It's basic economics, and you can see it in the reporting here. It's not the law causing girls to want to up-charge for BB services. It's the fact that thanks to things being pushed underground they think they can command higher prices.
And it's the guys trying to get everyone to self-censor who assist these would-be up-charging girls in getting away with it.
The more BB services are normalized by open reporting, the more they will be expected, the more they will be easy to find, the harder it will be for girls to charge extra, and the more ineffective this already impossible to enforce law will become. This is one area where perception really does become reality. If you want a reality where BB services are hard to find and more expensive, then go ahead and contribute to the perception that because of this mostly ineffectual law guys need to self-censor.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2151715]Au contraire, the more business the good girls get the longer they stay. So report as much as possible, good or bad girls, we will all benefit from it. Me with my opposing pov on BBBJ reporting is another topic.[/QUOTE]Indeed, that's why I name names of the top girls I want should stick around so often. Although I do hide much of the intimacy.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2151815]Your post here makes me think you have no actual specific evidence, and so you attack the poster rather than the post.[/QUOTE]I just haven't seen any reports at all by you, and your knowledge regarding the status quo on BBBJ makes me think you haven't visited FKK's in awhile. True or false?
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2151807]
Anyway, for all those dreamers there is no wedding chapel in Sharks and the ISG is not a dating site. At least not for me. I believe in writing reviews and giving back the best I can for what I take, is that not the purpose?[/QUOTE]It's a forum of discussion. International Sex guide, not FKK girls directory. You'll find plenty of info mixed in with a plethora of other conversation. If you want a template format, lobby the moderators to post a sticky like they do on other boards.
The nature of the FKK scene will naturally lead to more discussion than just reviews. Social dynamics do exist, and by design. That's what makes the scene special. If the reviews of another man's one hour is all you're interested in, then don't participate in the other discussion and skip to posts with the content you want. It takes 10 seconds to skim each page until you find a review. At the same time, I can extract plenty of info about girls and the scene from some of these fluff posts.
And just because you've never known a girl outside of a club doesn't mean it doesn't happen regularly. Whether seeing a girl outside of a club is a healthy activity is another story. I for one have no regrets. These girls have caused me no more grief than civilian girls.
As for not posting info, no one is saying not to post reviews. Detailed newbie posts are interesting and appreciated. Some logical heads just suggest that using some discretion on certain topics is, ahem, Kosher. The few months after BBBJ laws were instated, discretion didn't hurt anything. I don't see people posting specific names about girls who do AO outside of the Dietz board. Why don't some of you whine about that too?
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2151827]The question was asked as to why not posting about BBBJ or BBFS (AO) would lead to those services being harder to find or more expensive if found.
This goes back to the basic phenomena that any kind of prohibition brings. During the alcohol prohibition in the US what happened? People didn't stop drinking. Booze was a bit harder to find. It became more expensive. It became the basis for all manner of criminality. The downside of prohibition was so bad that it overwhelmed the anticipated upside, and after a few years was abandoned.
It should be obvious that if X goes unreported, it becomes more difficult to find. The main point of posts on boards like this is to make services easier to find at a fair price. Those who will find it the most difficult will be those guys just starting out. And at one point we were all just guys starting out.
What some of those who insist reporting on BB services is a bad thing are really saying it's bad FOR THEM. (Or so they think.) The attitude is "I've got mine, and if sharing will endanger that, I'd rather not share. " This is not returning the favor of sharing info as it was shared with them at one time.
So self-censorship obviously makes BB services harder to find. No info is no info. But does it cause prices to go up? Yes, and for the same reason. Self-censorship ends up limiting things on the supply side, and when supply goes down and demand remains static, prices go up. It's basic economics, and you can see it in the reporting here. It's not the law causing girls to want to up-charge for BB services. It's the fact that thanks to things being pushed underground they think they can command higher prices.
And it's the guys trying to get everyone to self-censor who assist these would-be up-charging girls in getting away with it.
The more BB services are normalized by open reporting, the more they will be expected, the more they will be easy to find, the harder it will be for girls to charge extra, and the more ineffective this already impossible to enforce law will become. This is one area where perception really does become reality. If you want a reality where BB services are hard to find and more expensive, then go ahead and contribute to the perception that because of this mostly ineffectual law guys need to self-censor.[/QUOTE]No, self censorship does not OBVIOUSLY lead to higher prices or lower supply. And you fail to make that connection at any point in your diatribe. Using the word obviously does not automatically make it true.
Limiting info limits supply? The hell it does. What kind of economics do you subscribe to? Heck what kind of logic? Your censorship culture spilling into the clubs assumption is flawed. We might not post it here but no one is saying to not speak of it and expect it with the girls.
You skip so many dots to come to your conclusion. The culture here does not spill over to the club culture, there are too few posters in comparison to customers to make that happen. Not posting specific info on this board does not push it underground in the clubs. However the info posted here does.
Censorship lead to upselling? Most girls didn't withold the service on day 1 of the law. However most girls did upsell starting on day 1. Upselling therefore preceded "censorship. "
Ill ask again? If open discussion about certain topic is so great, why does no one name girls who provide AO? Why? Bueller? Ferris Bueller?
As for being selfish? Any poster can PM me about any girl and if I know, I'the gladly share any info that is not personal.
This is what I was thinking after reading your post:
[url]https://youtu.be/LQCU36pkH7c[/url]
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2151837]It's a forum of discussion. International Sex guide, not FKK girls directory. You'll find plenty of info mixed in with a plethora of other conversation.
. Social dynamics do exist, and by design.
And just because you've never known a girl outside of a club doesn't mean it doesn't happen regularly. Whether seeing a girl outside of a club is a healthy activity is another story. I for one have no regrets. These girls have caused me no more grief than civilian girls.
As for not posting info, no one is saying not to post reviews. Detailed newbie posts are interesting and appreciated.
I don't see people posting specific names about girls who do AO outside of the Dietz board. Why don't some of you whine about that too?[/QUOTE]I agree, I should have clarified it is more than just reviews and yes an overall hobby discussion. I stand corrected. These social dynamics do exist for sure and and I am well aware of some of these ' outside the FKK relationships' and sounds like you have handled yourself well but not to sound like Debbie the Downer that can change on a dime, most go downhill and usually the guys get burned both on a financial and emotional level many spending months if not years in denial before the damage manifests often in anger which is why providers put up boundaries or in the case of girls in the FKK they will often cut a guy off their WhatsApp or social media or ban him from being seen again. Sounds like you have some good relationships going and I wish you the best and enjoy. When they work they are fun.
It is good you have no regrets. And I agree with your questioning if these outside the club relationships are healthy. I think the answer to that question can only truly be answered by a man trapped in one and that is not me. This is one reason I come to Germany to separate reality from fiction nor letting myself get to the point for where fiction becomes reality in a world that is purely fantasy. I am only human and myself have fucked up and been burned and I have no shame in saying so so I can understand why this goes on with some guys.
But you are right, the ISG should be much more than reviews and I do not skip posts or ever put anyone on ignore but I also am not afraid to speak my mind and I certainly think ' guys falling for providers / out of the club relationships' is a hobby topic and not unique to the ISG, you can add every American board you can think of to that list as this exact topic has been discussed in hundreds of threads in dozens of years on Lord knows how many boards many now defunct. I too prefer WG's compared to civies (less headache a few bucks they go away) and very true that newbie posts, reviews and participation are not just interesting and appreciated they are vital and needed for the continuation of the longevity of any hobby board and any informational value it may have. Boards have turnovers so newbies always needed and wanted. Sometimes these newbies have been playing this game albeit it outside of Germany longer than those who refer to them as newbies which IMHO adds to the mix of the cast of characters here.
As to Dietzenbach; AO is a known service at Dietz, it is no secret it goes on as it is no secret many girls whose name gets mentioned offer BBBJ in other clubs. Nothing seems to have come from that. I do not think posting one did AO with a Dietz girl would do a darn thing to her reputation. Why do guy's not complain that guys do not mention AO of girls outside of Dietzenbach?
For the exact same reason we do not on our own boards back home here, it can ruin a girls business and reputation (with guys and girls alike) well in Texas it would make her phone blow up but reality is it remains a mainstream taboo subject on all boards and perhaps no one whines about it as they understand to do so can harm a girl and I do not think any off us would possibly want this especially those who enjoy relationships with girls outside of the club. Certainly they can understand respecting a girl's reputation if they are the kind to also maintain friendships with them 'off the clock'.
Another reason guys do not mention girls who do AO in the main FKK clubs is that in every country and no way Germany is exempt there exist private mens' boards (invite only) where lists of AO girls or in the states BBFS girls are maintained outside of the public view.
I think the two above reasons well answers your question.
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Meanwhile.
Any chance the debate on reporting services could be moved to Lounge or General Info? It is most definitely not specific to Oase. Selfishly, as I have an Oase trip coming up, any chance of some reports on girls and services. I enjoyed the last batch! My two cents. Those reports (and hopefully more to follow) will assist in having some knowledge about certain girls and what to expect, or not.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2151874]. Why do guy's not complain that guys do not mention AO of girls outside of Dietzenbach?
For the exact same reason we do not on our own boards back home here, it can ruin a girls business and reputation (with guys and girls alike) well in Texas it would make her phone blow up but reality is it remains a mainstream taboo subject on all boards and perhaps no one whines about it as they understand to do so can harm a girl and I do not think any off us would possibly want this especially those who enjoy relationships with girls outside of the club. Certainly they can understand respecting a girl's reputation if they are the kind to also maintain friendships with them 'off the clock'.
Another reason guys do not mention girls who do AO in the main FKK clubs is that in every country and no way Germany is exempt there exist private mens' boards (invite only) where lists of AO girls or in the states BBFS girls are maintained outside of the public view.
I think the two above reasons well answers your question.[/QUOTE]Right, at this point BBBJ has the same legal status as AO and the first few months of the law, girls actually treated it as such, some to get more money and others facing the real possibility of getting let go by the club. See Mainhattan.
Like I've mentioned in previous posts, I think the sensitive time period regarding the issue is passing so now it's becoming a hypothetical argument.
But those posters accusing other posters who preferred discretion, even temporarily, as doing it for selfish reasons, GTFOH, your logic is weak.
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Oase hit and miss.
After a few years of banning this club, I returned to check about a month ago. And for 2 visits it was ok, a nice refreshment to Sharks. But this place is a hit and miss game, and this time I missed 3 times.
First was Shyarin ROM, quite little dark blond, small size. Rushed service with up-selling, in the end even asked for tip for her lousy service.
Second was Anika, good DT but mechanic and cold.
Third and worst was Emily Rom. A bit chubby black hair. Lousy BJ, bad service. After I handled her the 50 bill, she asked for extra 50 because of DATY. I said that I never pay extra for this and she should have told me in the room, if you want let's go to the reception. She turned away nervously. Avoid this girl.
This club is always surprising me with how much the service level may vary.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2151902]Right, at this point BBBJ has the same legal status as AO and the first few months of the law, girls actually treated it as such, some to get more money and others facing the real possibility of getting let go by the club. See Mainhattan.
Like I've mentioned in previous posts, I think the sensitive time period regarding the issue is passing so now it's becoming a hypothetical argument.
But those posters accusing other posters who preferred discretion, even temporarily, as doing it for selfish reasons, GTFOH, your logic is weak.[/QUOTE]I think I would agree with you on the above especially about the Mainhatten girls as it really is a joke when they explain to you the new law and how CBJ is safer and against the law for us ( club rules for them) yet if you give them an extra 50 e suddenly CBJ is safe and they will break the rules/law. From what I noticed in Mainhatten the long time girls I think have an unspoken rule that they are entitled to upsell the BBBJ or include it at their discretion in private due to seniority but if a new girl does such they have violated the wishes of the tenured ones. For example I was talking to a new one and another long timer told her to stay away that I was a BBBJ guy. Another girl very friendly with the cartel enforcers asked me if I was waiting for a certain girl (they all know I see one in particular all the time) but since that girl has worked there since the Ice Ages all of them knew I was off to get BBBJ so she is exempt from cartel enforcement.
I am not in complete agreement on those who do it for selfish reasons so perhaps to clarify I will break selfish in to two categories. One is that of the guy feeling he found a diamond in the rough and in a time where service levels can be spotty and YMMV all over the place and many girls upelling perhaps it is wise to keep a secret fishing hole to ones self, we do it here all the time too when the waters of competition get Sharky. However the other part is the guy in love, afraid to share his lovers name or possibly constantly posting the name of his obsession and tidbits about her to brag is that of a guy who perhaps belongs on a dating site not in a who*rehouse.
I will simply choose to respectfully disagree with you (ultimately we are all there to have fun not fight) but more importantly your game plan works for you, my game plan works for me so we can all be winners on the same field.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2152105]
One is that of the guy feeling he found a diamond in the rough and in a time where service levels can be spotty and YMMV all over the place and many girls upelling perhaps it is wise to keep a secret fishing hole to ones self, we do it here all the time too when the waters of competition get Sharky. However the other part is the guy in love, afraid to share his lovers name or possibly constantly posting the name of his obsession and tidbits about her to brag is that of a guy who perhaps belongs on a dating site not in a who*rehouse.[/QUOTE]I know, those Golem guys will always be around, "my precious" LOL. Hopefully they'll stay in the monority.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2152105]I think I would agree with you on the above especially about the Mainhatten girls as it really is a joke when they explain to you the new law and how CBJ is safer and against the law for us ( club rules for them) yet if you give them an extra 50 e suddenly CBJ is safe and they will break the rules/law. From what I noticed in Mainhatten the long time girls I think have an unspoken rule that they are entitled to upsell the BBBJ or include it at their discretion in private due to seniority but if a new girl does such they have violated the wishes of the tenured ones. For example I was talking to a new one and another long timer told her to stay away that I was a BBBJ guy. Another girl very friendly with the cartel enforcers asked me if I was waiting for a certain girl (they all know I see one in particular all the time) but since that girl has worked there since the Ice Ages all of them knew I was off to get BBBJ so she is exempt from cartel enforcement.
I am not in complete agreement on those who do it for selfish reasons so perhaps to clarify I will break selfish in to two categories. One is that of the guy feeling he found a diamond in the rough and in a time where service levels can be spotty and YMMV all over the place and many girls upelling perhaps it is wise to keep a secret fishing hole to ones self, we do it here all the time too when the waters of competition get Sharky. However the other part is the guy in love, afraid to share his lovers name or possibly constantly posting the name of his obsession and tidbits about her to brag is that of a guy who perhaps belongs on a dating site not in a who*rehouse.
I will simply choose to respectfully disagree with you (ultimately we are all there to have fun not fight) but more importantly your game plan works for you, my game plan works for me so we can all be winners on the same field.[/QUOTE]Mainhattan like Oase or Shark are all cheating clubs good for guys from the US or Canada or China but not for German mongers, so many better places but I know that you are a great lover of Dietz / Aldi which is also at least for me a no go club.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2151807]I do not understand (well I actually do I have been there been done that and learned from my mistakes) why some of these guys are getting emotionally attached to these girls some to the point of obsession as is the case with one Princess who is not at Oase and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out who.
[/QUOTE]Apparently a third of mongers need there to be "intimacy":
[URL]http://www.medicaldaily.com/third-men-who-see-prostitutes-crave-emotional-intimacy-not-just-sex-241840[/URL]
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Girls offering BBFS at a non AO-Club will (and did before the new law) get in trouble and thrown out of the club. Witnessed it a few times. So. Don't mention their names on an open board.
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March 5th visit
I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.
[B]Adele[/B] we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!
[B]Anna[/B] I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.
[B]Carla[/B] Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty.
[B]Lara[/B] wow, a room with her has been out of this world. I can only put the number of girls in one hand that fits this category and she is one of them. Once she gets to know you, she is a great girl.
A few girls were taking a day off since it was also a slow Sunday. They figured Monday would be bad and it was. Vicky is also back, per Anna, but I didn't get to see her.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152504]I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.
[B]Adele[/B] we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!
[B]Anna[/B] I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.
[B]Carla[/B] Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty.
[B]Lara[/B] wow, a room with her has been out of this world. I can only put the number of girls in one hand that fits this category and she is one of them. Once she gets to know you, she is a great girl.
A few girls were taking a day off since it was also a slow Sunday. They figured Monday would be bad and it was. Vicky is also back, per Anna, but I didn't get to see her.[/QUOTE]I am quite jealous of your night, those are some of my favorite girls at Oase. Adele, Anna, and Carla all have such great personalities too. Did not know that Carla and Adele were roommates. It makes sense as they are both very friendly girls and know how to talk to Americans. Anna is one of the few girls in the industry who are truly sweet. Lara, once you get passed her upsell attempts, is the word "sex kitten" embodied.
I only visited Oase the last 2 days of my last trip. I will not make the same mistake again this trip!
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152504]I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.
[B]Adele[/B] we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!
[B]Anna[/B] I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday..[/QUOTE]We must have similar taste. Those are my fav too. LOL. I was there last week too. I am the one who normally go with my regular, however, on one of odd night, I somehow went to room with a girl named Amanda, slim, pretty face. She was smiling to me.
When ever we have eye contact. At least 2-3 times during my stay that day. It was late night and I was about to call it quit, she came over and asked if we can go to room. I made rookie mistake without asking price and anything. I thought she knew I was not newbie, I would not get those newbie treatment. Totally wrong, As soon as the door shut, her smile is gone and she was doing all sort of upssell. It changed the whole mode, I told her that I did not want sex anymore. Went out and paid her. She knew I was not happy. Strange thing is on the very next day, she asked me if we should go to room again. I am sure she does not have short memory like goldfish. I guess she must think I am the sucker! Any way, I had great time at Oase on this trip. But from time to time, you will get one of those bad apple, I guess.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152504][B]Anna[/B] I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.
[B]Carla[/B] Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty.
[B]Lara[/B] wow, a room with her has been out of this world. I can only put the number of girls in one hand that fits this category and she is one of them. Once she gets to know you, she is a great girl.[/QUOTE]Anna is sweet, great service, no upsell.
Never tried Carla, she is too focussed on Asians. A shame the loss in weight did affect her boobs.
Lara does heavy upsell and not even for 100 EUR did she provide good service. YMMV.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2152416]Apparently a third of mongers need there to be "intimacy":[/QUOTE]That includes me on some occasions :). Not sure about the use of word "crave": it is just nice to get on well with a person (and hopefully as a result get better service). This is not the same as obsession, Golem Guys, or mistaking a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. When I have a Queen I am happy if every other guy keeps her busy. So maybe that is a third category I fall into: not fuck and forget, not obsessive illusions, but sharing a bit more than just sex.
Cheers.
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DaWong949, you are not the only one with that experience with Amanda. I made the same mistake too, just like you, going by her look. I only read about her later and people have warned about her. It was probably one of the worst room I've had for a while. Some people said she is a little better now but I don't have the nerve to find out. I can just go with other girls and guarantee a great time.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2152675]That includes me on some occasions :). Not sure about the use of word "crave": it is just nice to get on well with a person (and hopefully as a result get better service). This is not the same as obsession, Golem Guys, or mistaking a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. When I have a Queen I am happy if every other guy keeps her busy. So maybe that is a third category I fall into: not fuck and forget, not obsessive illusions, but sharing a bit more than just sex.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Intimacy can definitely make the sex better. Great sex for me comes in 2 forms; the best Oase girls, for me, generally provide great sex by being dirty, skillful, and sporty I. E. Lara. The best Sharks girls for me provided the intimate, "put-a-baby-in-me" sex without having to show too much skill or dirtiness but the experience was enhanced by intimacy. I. e. Evita.
Non commercial relationships can be had for sure although it gets complicated because even if there is true attachment involved from both parties, it eventually becomes difficult for the girl because she will wrestle with the fact that she is not getting paid by a known monger.
My belief that non commercial relationships with WGs can be had is supported by the fact that I’ve had/have non commercial friendships with them. I've never been to a room with ex Dora of Sharks but we've often spoken over drinks or a joint at the club. We are friends on Social media and she regularly messages me just to ask about life in general, get my input if she should try a new club, or my input on some vacation destinations.
By Golem guys I am specifically referring to the image of the Lord of the Rings creature caressing his ring, snapping at people who try to obtain it. You can have intimacy with a WG without this attitude. It does however take alot of self confidence, having to believe that you truly are providing something unique to the WG.
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Takedown. Well said. Especially the last paragraph.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Avignon27;2142811]Yes Teresa from Jamaica is a good recommendation. She provides very good service with DFK and no upselling. Black women provide better of service than most Romanians in Oase.[/QUOTE]Teresa was quite a hit at World with continuous rooms last Saturday. I guess that is because there hasn't been a well-shaped slim black girl in World for quite some time. I chatted with her for a while and was on the verge of asking her for a session when one of my favorites appeared and I went with her instead. Looks like I missed out as I didn't get to see Teresa again the rest of that night.
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Lara does heavy upsell and not even for 100 EUR did she provide good service. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Lara does upsell hard but I will confirm that 100 euro hours with great service can be had if you are willing to walk away. She has, in the past, eventually come around. Double finishes allowed in that hour, not that I was able to do so but she let me try! As for 50 euro halfs with all of the bells and whitsles, I'm not so sure.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152708]DaWong949, you are not the only one with that experience with Amanda. I made the same mistake too, just like you, going by her look. I only read about her later and people have warned about her. It was probably one of the worst room I've had for a while. Some people said she is a little better now but I don't have the nerve to find out. I can just go with other girls and guarantee a great time.[/QUOTE]Worst session ever at Oase, and that is in over 15 years.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2152779]Lara does upsell hard but I will confirm that 100 euro hours with great service can be had if you are willing to walk away. She has, in the past, eventually come around. Double finishes allowed in that hour, not that I was able to do so but she let me try! As for 50 euro halfs with all of the bells and whitsles, I'm not so sure.[/QUOTE]Is Lara black hair with some red finish?
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152708]DaWong949, you are not the only one with that experience with Amanda. I made the same mistake too, just like you, going by her look. I only read about her later and people have warned about her. It was probably one of the worst room I've had for a while. Some people said she is a little better now but I don't have the nerve to find out. I can just go with other girls and guarantee a great time.[/QUOTE]The crazy thing is she come back to me on the very next day and asking me to go room with her again. WTF.
I spent 3 days in Oase and 3 days in Sharks. For me, sharks has more eye candy on Wednesday (busy day due to e50 entrance). But Oase has Adele, Adina, Mikaela.
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Lara does look far better with red hair than black / brown hair.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2152811]Is Lara black hair with some red finish?[/QUOTE]Last I saw her with red hair was last summer but maybe she went back to it this past winter.
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Lara is blonde now, until she changes again.
DaWong949, don't worry, Amanda still approaches me and smile everytime I see her eventhough I have never taken her since.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152886]Lara is blonde now, until she changes again.
DaWong949, don't worry, Amanda still approaches me and smile everytime I see her eventhough I have never taken her since.[/QUOTE]I was there on March 4,9 and 10. I did not see Lara at all or I just simply missed her. My vision has been not that good after eye surgery last year.
I normally find some guys in the club to socialize in between session. This trip, I met three American Chinese (different days), all coming from same area I am from. It is funny that we travel half the world and meet at Oase. Those guys really know some cheap flights. $400 round trip.
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Mercure hotel.
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2152929]I was there on March 4,9 and 10. I did not see Lara at all or I just simply missed her. My vision has been not that good after eye surgery last year.
I normally find some guys in the club to socialize in between session. This trip, I met three American Chinese (different days), all coming from same area I am from. It is funny that we travel half the world and meet at Oase. Those guys really know some cheap flights. $400 round trip.[/QUOTE]Might be a dumb question, you were the one to recommend Mercure hotel for me to stay. Do you know if I can pay with cash once I get there for my room?
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2152929]I was there on March 4,9 and 10. I did not see Lara at all or I just simply missed her. My vision has been not that good after eye surgery last year.
I normally find some guys in the club to socialize in between session. This trip, I met three American Chinese (different days), all coming from same area I am from. It is funny that we travel half the world and meet at Oase. Those guys really know some cheap flights. $400 round trip.[/QUOTE]I usually think I'm the only ABC there but seems like there are more of us around than I thought! Maybe I'll start to mingle after my sessions too hah.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2153187]Might be a dumb question, you were the one to recommend Mercure hotel for me to stay. Do you know if I can pay with cash once I get there for my room?[/QUOTE]As long as they get paid. No matter is cash, CC or debit card.
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[QUOTE=HighRevver;2153248]I usually think I'm the only ABC there but seems like there are more of us around than I thought! Maybe I'll start to mingle after my sessions too hah.[/QUOTE]There are tons of ABC there. Start mingling, it is fun.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152504]I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty.
Adele we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!
Carla Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing.[/QUOTE]Yes Badin, Carla jumped to me very angry. Once more, after Madi World, Raïssa World, Megan Sharks, Kate, Sandi and Madeleine at GT, some guys need so much to tell my writings to girls, some even change my meaning to bullshit girls. About Carla, my meaning was not changed, I m not hypocrite, but she has new look now, compare to my room with her on June 2014 when I tried most of the beauties, but I selected Maria Platinum for only favorite on July 2014 , and Ina. Lat later. About Adele, I had really better to enjoy in room with her and I didn't need massage, for our 3 rooms, rather than telling her about other members. My most enjoyable was our second room in late night on our first day when she started to smile after my room with Vera 1 week ago. On this Thursday, she lost her smile, but she knows how I behave with her for our time. No problem, many other girls, Stephani, came because it was slow business, but I preferred to save my money, at this moment I didn't know yet, but I was so right, for my top Russian escort returning after 3 years. What a Russian woman now, volcano under ice. We will meet many times during her tour, before going to free ride.
So my bank can only thank this talkative little guy to help me to save money. Now some will know why I don't name anymore my top girls, naming them my Eves. Top of the top was a German guy at Living Room sending messages to my Eve who was sleeping in Brasov, to tell her my night with Daria when my Eve was away. Fortunately, most of my regular who know my behavior, trust me more than bullshits.
Really land of bullshits and jealousy.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152504]I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.
[B]Adele[/B] we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!
[B]Anna[/B] I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.
[B]Carla[/B] Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty..[/QUOTE]Adele gave good massage? That is new to me. I will ask her when I come next time.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2152675] Not sure about the use of word "crave": it is just nice to get on well with a person (and hopefully as a result get better service). This is not the same as obsession, Golem Guys, or mistaking a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. [/QUOTE]This is an interesting paper on emotional labor and sex workers:
[URL]https://scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6351&context=etd[/URL]
The paper describes the cultivation of "comfortable feeling" which may be roughly equivalent to what you describe as "getting on well". Meeting at WG's home. Meeting at client's home. Unpaid time spent dining, etc.
The paper also goes into counterfeit intimacy, which may be so convincing it could lead a monger to mistake a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. The paper distinguishes between two types of emotional labor (surface acting and deep acting): "Baby knew that in order to sustain regular customers like Philip. Men who wanted intimacy and the feeling of being special. She had to give them the illusion of mutuality. To that end, she gave Philip her pager number and her supposed real name and details about her outside life, to make it seem as if she had begun letting down her guard" (p. 126). A telling example of deep acting by a prostitute is the case of the prostitute who falls in love with a client.
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Really land of bullshits and jealousy.[/QUOTE]And self delusion too!
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;2153310]There are tons of ABC there. Start mingling, it is fun.[/QUOTE]Might also be fun to reach outside of your comfort zone and mingle with Caucasians, Turkish, and few black guys. Just a suggestion.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;2153385]This is an interesting paper on emotional labor and sex workers:
[URL]https://scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6351&context=etd[/URL]
The paper describes the cultivation of "comfortable feeling" which may be roughly equivalent to what you describe as "getting on well". Meeting at WG's home. Meeting at client's home. Unpaid time spent dining, etc.
The paper also goes into counterfeit intimacy, which may be so convincing it could lead a monger to mistake a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. The paper distinguishes between two types of emotional labor (surface acting and deep acting): "Baby knew that in order to sustain regular customers like Philip. Men who wanted intimacy and the feeling of being special. She had to give them the illusion of mutuality. To that end, she gave Philip her pager number and her supposed real name and details about her outside life, to make it seem as if she had begun letting down her guard" (p. 126). A telling example of deep acting by a prostitute is the case of the prostitute who falls in love with a client.[/QUOTE]Message, be careful playing with fire? Constant self check is a must. And never give more than you're willing to give to a civilian girl.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2153475]Might also be fun to reach outside of your comfort zone and mingle with Caucasians, Turkish, and few black guys. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]I don't think he meant it that way. I think the way I phrased my reply made his reply seem like he and I only were willing to mingle with fellow Asians. I actually gave a Middle Eastern guy a ride from Sharks to downtown last time I was there a couple of weeks ago and chatted up a couple of Americans too from LA. Without giving too much away in a public space, I come from an extremely diverse background where I literally didn't have a Caucasian friend until in my teens due to circumstances.
Anyways, let's not stray too far off of what we're all here to talk about, the land where we all get to pretend were Hank Moody We have enough tension as is back at home!
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Made a quick visit last Sunday. Good LU that improved more around 5. Just checked into the Mercure and heading back this evening and all day tomorrow. Although it can be overwhelming with the extra interest when it is slow, it's great not to have to wait on or chase the hottest ones.
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[QUOTE=HighRevver;2153486]I don't think he meant it that way. I think the way I phrased my reply made his reply seem like he and I only were willing to mingle with fellow Asians. I actually gave a Middle Eastern guy a ride from Sharks to downtown last time I was there a couple of weeks ago and chatted up a couple of Americans too from LA. Without giving too much away in a public space, I come from an extremely diverse background where I literally didn't have a Caucasian friend until in my teens due to circumstances.
Anyways, let's not stray too far off of what we're all here to talk about, the land where we all get to pretend were Hank Moody We have enough tension as is back at home![/QUOTE]Highrevver is right. I mingle with whoever I feel comfortable with when I am in the club no matter if they are Caucasian, black or Asian. On my very last trip. I even met and talked to our famous Siri.
We had nice chat from girls to sports, skiing. To be honest, the time between session can be boring if you don't have someone to talk to. I like to explore different culture, travel ideas. Different background people will give you totally different picture then you already have.
I met a old Iranian guy. He told me that he did not know FKK at all. His son got him a surprise party by flying him to Oase from Tiran. I sure like those kind of surprise party from my kids. But I just know that will be impossible bearing the culture we have.
You can find a lot of interesting people if you reach out.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152504]I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.
[B]Adele[/B] we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!
[B]Anna[/B] I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.
[B]Carla[/B] Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty.
[B]Lara[/B] wow, a room with her has been out of this world. I can only put the number of girls in one hand that fits this category and she is one of them. Once she gets to know you, she is a great girl.
A few girls were taking a day off since it was also a slow Sunday. They figured Monday would be bad and it was. Vicky is also back, per Anna, but I didn't get to see her.[/QUOTE]Not a surprise for me, Oase and Shark have lost a lot of regular clients like me, I completely stopped to visit both clubs and as long the management will not take the control of the girls.
I will not return, I also blacklisted Palace and mainhatan and I hope that many guys are doing the same.
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I don't have a lot of time for this anymore, but I'll respond to a couple things quickly.
It's been about a year since my last trip to Germany. Usually I go 2 or 3 times a year.
But a lot of what I have to say is based on my own experience actually running a prostitution discussion board. There are always guys who think public discussion is bad. And they always make the boards worse.
Think of it this way. If Consumer Reports went out of business who would benefit the most? Certainly not consumers. And not the companies with the best products. It would be the companies with bad products who benefit.
So if prostitution boards went away who would benefit? Those who once posted? Those who once read? FKK's with great girls who give great service? No. The ripoff places or places with poor services would benefit the most.
Those who want boards to not report on this or that are, in a sense, advocating the board *partially* go away. So when boards don't give the full picture, and don't report whether this or that is available, who benefits? Not us, that's for sure. And, I would argue, not the good clubs or the full-service providers.
This is what I meant when I said not reporting on AO will limit the supply of AO. I don't mean that in the strict economic sense. I just mean AO will be harder to find. That's why there are these boards in the first place, right? To make it easier to find what you want.
And what do you expect will happen when X is harder to find? It will be more expensive if and when you find it.
(I actually strongly support moving this out of the FKK Oase thread. Please continue if you must in the General thread.).
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Is OASE better than Sharks now?
I went to Sharks today. The lineup was disappointing. Where are all the 9+ girls?
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Theory that may have even been practical in one instance may and often do not translate directly in other instances. Especially if you haven't been there recently to factor in the details.
Take the example of AO. You say not reporting on it makes it harder to find. This makes sense on the surface but when you factor that once reported, the AO providers often gets kicked out of the club, then you directly take out the supply.
Theory is like having a good plan but the details, in this case recent experience, will determine if it works out the way you imagine.
As the once great Mike Tyson said, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2153777]I don't have a lot of time for this anymore, but I'll respond to a couple things quickly.
It's been about a year since my last trip to Germany. Usually I go 2 or 3 times a year.
But a lot of what I have to say is based on my own experience actually running a prostitution discussion board. There are always guys who think public discussion is bad. And they always make the boards worse.
Think of it this way. If Consumer Reports went out of business who would benefit the most? Certainly not consumers. And not the companies with the best products. It would be the companies with bad products who benefit.
So if prostitution boards went away who would benefit? Those who once posted? Those who once read? FKK's with great girls who give great service? No. The ripoff places or places with poor services would benefit the most..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JasonWang;2153781]I went to Sharks today. The lineup was disappointing. Where are all the 9+ girls?[/QUOTE]During my last trip in February, I did not go with many regulars so most of my rooms were with girls for the first time. Exceptions were Daniella, Estephania, and Ingrid. I say that to explain that neither club had the safety net of relying on regulars.
My rooms with Anna, Daniella, Claudia, Adele, and Ariana at Oase were collectively superior to my rooms with Athena, Estephania, Helen, Lilly, and Ingrid at Sharks. I will add the caveat that the Sharks girls with the exception of Ingrid were all super young girls as opposed to the more experienced ones I chose at Oase.
Hard to tell you where the 9s are as I am reluctant to give a girl a 9. Only Nastia at Sharks has been a 9 for me.
I'd consider Claudia, Ariana, and Adele high 8s. Anna a high 7 and Daniella a solid 7. To me, all of the girls I chose at Sharks were low 8s. Helen may be a high 8. Ingrid perhaps a high 7 because of her weird shaped boobs.
To me, Oase was definitively better for service with top notch 1 hour rooms. At Sharks Helen and Ingrid gave great 1 hour service. Other Sharks girls often withheld real DFK and upsold too much.
But it can change month to month.
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Thursday Night Visit
Had a nice visit last night (Thursday) with plans for a longer Friday visit before heading back to Frankfurt for Mainhatten and a Sharks to wrap the visit. Once again, nowhere near as many punters than in my visits in previous years. Doesn't seem to have hurt the line up yet. Ratio was off the hook early on.
Two very good sessions.
Mina, Ro: Very pretty Blonde who looked very much like my global ATF (Melissa De Rouge in Prague). Initially sat down with Mina and her tall Lebanese friend but made it clear that I was not into a duo session. Very friendly a spent a fair amount of couch time getting warmed up. Took her for an hour for $100 and had a great, playful session with LFK, DATY and multiple positions. Not a spinner but definitely my type.
Larissa, Ru: Had to flee the bar area to get away from an insanely committed Czech girl that I had no intention of sessioning with. When I made it back, ran right into Larissa and decided immediately that she was who I wanted to finish the night with. Tall gorgeous, Russian blonde. I'm tall and she was taller than me in her heels. Slim but solidly built like a Playmate. Tanned and smooth with great naturals. Sat for a while to get to know her and she was charming. Kissing wasn't DFK, but quite good. Very appreciative of a long DATY session before a solid CBJ and missionary. Stayed a long time after in the room chatting, cuddling and kissing. 1 hour session.
I'm still trying to adjust to this new pricing world order. In both cases I mentioned I didn't care much about BBBJ since that seems to be their primary sell up pitch and I really don't care. So both did a CBJ but I am pretty sure they both took my comment to mean I wanted the cover. Probably would have got BBBJ if I had asked given I ended up going the hour.
Looking forward to a longer Friday visit.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2153782]Theory that may have even been practical in one instance may and often do not translate directly in other instances. Especially if you haven't been there recently to factor in the details.
Take the example of AO. You say not reporting on it makes it harder to find. This makes sense on the surface but when you factor that once reported, the AO providers often gets kicked out of the club, then you directly take out the supply.
Theory is like having a good plan but the details, in this case recent experience, will determine if it works out the way you imagine.
As the once great Mike Tyson said, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth..[/QUOTE]I don t believe any girl was ever kicked out from a club just after a report on any forum, everybody is aware that we can't trust what is written on internet.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2153782]Theory that may have even been practical in one instance may and often do not translate directly in other instances. Especially if you haven't been there recently to factor in the details.
Take the example of AO. You say not reporting on it makes it harder to find. This makes sense on the surface but when you factor that once reported, the AO providers often gets kicked out of the club, then you directly take out the supply[/QUOTE]That is exactly what it is and why AO in clubs is not mentioned on public boards.
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2153777]It's been about a year since my last trip to Germany. Usually I go 2 or 3 times a year.
But a lot of what I have to say is based on my own experience actually running a prostitution discussion board.
So if prostitution boards went away who would benefit? [/QUOTE]So you haven't been to Germany since the new law kicked in. Still you keep posting about how little effect it has and to ignore it and keep posting about BB openly.
Which board are you running? Is it covering German FKK clubs?
Nobody said prostitution discussion board should go away.
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[QUOTE=JasonWang;2153781]I went to Sharks today. The lineup was disappointing. Where are all the 9+ girls?[/QUOTE]Thursday and Tuesday are not best casting days at Sharks, but nobody tell about real beauties at Sharks at the moment, but you can fuck 100 GND there, You have the quantity to enjoy.
At Oase, few pretty girls.
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There is a long blond curly hair, looking like Roxana older sister, at Oase. Who is she? Real woman look, even not so firm body.
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Oase visit today
Hi all,
I will be in Oase today at about 7 pm.
Anyone there we can meet up. Drop me a message.
Ciao.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2153782]Take the example of AO. You say not reporting on it makes it harder to find. This makes sense on the surface but when you factor that once reported, the AO providers often gets kicked out of the club, then you directly take out the supply.[/QUOTE]Often? As in the majority of the time? As in such significant numbers that the number of AO providers decreases by more than the amount that reviews lead customers to them?
In fact AO providers being fired due to board reports rarely happens. There are a handful of reports it's happened, and some of those reports are of the same incident (double reporting or more), and are often hearsay in nature.
Here is a better question regarding the new law and AO services. Where are the posts from guys saying "Before the new law I could find AO services pretty easily, but now I have trouble finding them"? We aren't seeing posts like that because, in fact, the new law (some 9 months later) has had little real effect.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2154126]Often? As in the majority of the time? As in such significant numbers that the number of AO providers decreases by more than the amount that reviews lead customers to them?
In fact AO providers being fired due to board reports rarely happens. There are a handful of reports it's happened, and some of those reports are of the same incident (double reporting or more), and are often hearsay in nature.
Here is a better question regarding the new law and AO services. Where are the posts from guys saying "Before the new law I could find AO services pretty easily, but now I have trouble finding them"? We aren't seeing posts like that because, in fact, the new law (some 9 months later) has had little real effect.[/QUOTE]Well since AO never got reported anyway because it was club policy to not allow it, before or after the law, it's not a good indicator. BBBJ however, did become harder to find without upsell.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2154126]Often? As in the majority of the time? As in such significant numbers that the number of AO providers decreases by more than the amount that reviews lead customers to them?
In fact AO providers being fired due to board reports rarely happens. There are a handful of reports it's happened, and some of those reports are of the same incident (double reporting or more), and are often hearsay in nature.[/QUOTE]"In fact" is an opening used by people who don't have any evidence or facts. How do you know it rarely happens? You haven't been to a club for a year. It did and does happen. Just the fact that it hasn't been reported here doesn't mean it did not happen.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2154129]Well since AO never got reported anyway because it was club policy to not allow it, before or after the law, it's not a good indicator. BBBJ however, did become harder to find without upsell.[/QUOTE]Sorry but you are misunderstanding, it is the interest of the management to have girls doing AO or BBBJ so many customers will come back and pay the entry fee. BBBJ is available like before the new law without any extra even I don't need to ask for it. Due to slow business easy to get many things for small money the l.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2154129]Well since AO never got reported anyway because it was club policy to not allow it, before or after the law, it's not a good indicator. BBBJ however, did become harder to find without upsell.[/QUOTE]I think that you are wrong AO and BBBJ is available like before and it is the interest of the management of the club to have girls doing it so the guys are coming back and paying the entry fee. In the last weeks business looks very slow and eastern is approaching quickly so the girls are ready to be very flexible to earn a lot before returning home in Roumania.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2153399]And self delusion too![/QUOTE]Only real facts worth for me: smiling welcome, my girls coming to me, no need to take ticket to wait, girls asking: when we see again? With the prettiest met weekly for months, rather than bullshits. When I'm with a pretty girl, time is too short when I enjoy her, I don't have time to tell about other guys, I prefer to taste her. I will wait Katea. Ru and Kity when they will come to me, I never force girls.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2154207]Only real facts worth for me: smiling welcome, my girls coming to me, no need to take ticket to wait, girls asking: when we see again? With the prettiest met weekly for months, rather than bullshits. When I'm with a pretty girl, time is too short when I enjoy her, I don't have time to tell about other guys, I prefer to taste her. I will wait Katea. Ru and Kity when they will come to me, I never force girls.[/QUOTE]Be proud when they fuck you for free, until then, it is just delusions of grandeur.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2154243]Be proud when they fuck you for free, until then, it is just delusions of grandeur.[/QUOTE]Pretty girls with smiling welcome are just pleasure for eyes, then for brain, then waking up desire to be able to enjoy my game I pay for.
Taking ticket to wait, to be client number 11 , or seeing public exhibition, just kill my desire, and I don t pay just to empty my balls.
Each one own game. Even at Oase, after my room with Vera and her smiles after, she was not the only one smiling on next Saturday.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2154348]Naughty boy, stop destroying the fantasy world he built stone by stone![/QUOTE]Psychiatrists usually break down a patient's mental problems stone by stone&.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2154129]Well since AO never got reported anyway because it was club policy to not allow it, before or after the law, it's not a good indicator. BBBJ however, did become harder to find without upsell.[/QUOTE]BBBJ stay standard and for free in Hessen and NRW, even in Hamburg with extra, about 30 . Many girls looking for CIM for extra money. I m not into CIM, but still my real foreigner weekly experience in Germany.
DFK stay also standard, just have to find good, fluent kisser girls. Most enjoyable is when the girl comes to kiss You all along the room and in missionary, eyes in eyes, then You have to control to stay as long as possible on the edge of pleasure, not cumming like a rabbit. Russian escort Elena Maria Sharapova was great for this yesterday. Some FKK girls are also great for this. I remember at Oase a girl eyes "going in clouds" while missionary, it was really enjoyable.
Best pleasure is in eyes and brain.
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It is stupid to argue that AO will die if we don't report on it in terms of when and where. I was, by a good margin, the first person to report on an AO club, but did not say where it was. The club survived for years before anybody reported which club it was.
I am not saying we should not report it, just objecting to false unsubstantiated claims. I have seen firsthand several times girls thrown out of clubs like Oase due to allegations of AO.
AO, BBBJ, kissing, public sex, and other things are declining for reasons nothing to do with this Forum.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2154389]AO, BBBJ, kissing, public sex, and other things are declining for reasons nothing to do with this Forum.[/QUOTE]Because of dickless boys with no expectations ;) Kind of guy who goes : "I want kissing, how much is it ?" or "even at 100 / 30 minutes, it's still cheaper than fucking a fat french hooker in the back of her truck".
[QUOTE=Takedown;2154370]Psychiatrists usually break down a patient's mental problems stone by stone😬.[/QUOTE]You didn't choose the easy way do you? Its going to be a VERY LONG road.
By the way, where do you find all your funny smileys ?
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2151344]There were guys who thought reporting BBBJ was a bad idea even before the new law. But I'm sure they had no problem using the information about BBBJ other guys posted.[/QUOTE]Well, as BBBJ used to be included there can't have been anyone who suggested not to report it. And no one had any use of others reporting regarding BBBJ as every girl did it in every session.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2154398]You didn't choose the easy way do you? Its going to be a VERY LONG road.
By the way, where do you find all your funny smileys ?[/QUOTE]It's just the iphone emoji keyboard. When Communicating with 20 something year olds, it's pretty much essential, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2154370]Psychiatrists usually break down a patient's mental problems stone by stone😬.[/QUOTE]No, they just help to make your own work to find your own way. They don't make it, because everybody have to find own way, nobody can find your own way for you, except if you are a slave, or pimped.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2154143]"In fact" is an opening used by people who don't have any evidence or facts. How do you know it rarely happens? You haven't been to a club for a year. It did and does happen. Just the fact that it hasn't been reported here doesn't mean it did not happen.[/QUOTE]I can tell you for sure that if you report it in the Vienna thread about girls in GT or FP who offer AO, then at some point those girls will have no choice but leave. Some girls read up on what's going on here on ISG and they will make use of the info for sure. Also the AO girls will never hear the end of it from the other girls. Kind of outcast situation guaranteed. And that is even thought it is totally legal to offer which ever service you like in any club in Austria.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2154474]I can tell you for sure that if you report it in the Vienna thread about girls in GT or FP who offer AO, then at some point those girls will have no choice but leave. Some girls read up on what's going on here on ISG and they will make use of the info for sure.[/QUOTE]This can be also true for all the bigger mega clubs in Germany and Austria (and some of the smaller clubs as well). Some working girls [u]do[/u] read the reports on this Board, particularly some Romanian girls who's second language is very often English as opposed to German.
What is not factored into this conversation about whether it is right or wrong to report in the Forum on working girls who offer BBBJ as standard or who offer AO as standard or for extra cash is that quiet a few of the reports on this Board are actually fake! Or at least factually incorrect!! You cannot absolutely believe every reported club visit that is published on this Board. Not even reports that have been put in the Reports of Distinction thread by me!
The truth of the matter is that guys will embellish a club experience or a meeting with a working girl for the sake of making their report more entertaining. Guys will on seeing a recent line up list, write about a fictitious FKK or Sauna club visit where they met one or two of the girls from the recent line-up-list, when the fact of the matter is they live abroad and have not been to the FKK / Sauna club in the last twelve months. They possibly were with the reported working girls twelve months ago, if they were with them at all. Guys write reports about girls who they heard about from a mongering buddy. They were not actually with the girl themselves but they heard all the details from this other monger who was actually in the room with the working girl. Who knows if they were told the truth by their buddy or not! You cannot believe that every single report that is published in this forum is factually correct. You cannot absolutely believe that a particular working girl offers BBBJ or AO services just because you read it on this Board. You cannot bet your house on this information. At least not always.
I know all of the above because guys I have mongered with in FKK-Land and who have reported on this board have admitted it to me in the past. Now I have been travelling to FKK-Land for ten years or more and I have met many, many guys off this Board in this time and most who report on this board I am certain report honestly. The guys I regularly meet in Germany report accurately if they report at all. But not every single report on this Board is an honest report. You cannot believe absolutely everything that you read here. I believe this should always be remembered.
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[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2154474]And that is even thought it is totally legal to offer which ever service you like in any club in Austria.[/QUOTE]Was the same in Germany for 20 years. Still AO reports getting management's attention or getting caught in action meant that the girls had to go.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2154510]This can be also true for all the bigger mega clubs in Germany and Austria (and some of the smaller clubs as well). Some working girls [u]do[/u] read the reports on this Board, particularly some Romanian girls who's second language is very often English as opposed to German.
What is not factored into this conversation about whether it is right or wrong to report in the Forum on working girls who offer BBBJ as standard or who offer AO as standard or for extra cash is that quiet a few of the reports on this Board are actually fake! Or at least factually incorrect!! You cannot absolutely believe every reported club visit that is published on this Board. Not even reports that have been put in the Reports of Distinction thread by me!
The truth of the matter is that guys will embellish a club experience or a meeting with a working girl for the sake of making their report more entertaining..[/QUOTE]Never forget that in the FKK world both girls and mongers are not telling the truth, are you telling your family what you have done in Germany, probably not, the same for the girls most of them are waiter in a restaurant.
Please don't make the things to theoretical, just go fuck the girls if you want but don't try to understand it is more or less impossible. The girls are there to get as much a.
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And finally.
And so to the last night of my trip and a visit to Oase. Having spent the day in Frankfurt where it was bitterly cold in wind with an icy chill, I actually contemplated not going to Oase or any FKK at all. I'd spent the last two nights in Oceans and Sharks until the early hours, had completed some great rooms and hours but perhaps age was catching up on me, and the thought of a workout, followed by a long soak in a hot bath or jacuzzi and a nice meal in the hotel was actually very appealing. If I lived in Germany I'd have taken a break last night. But us tourists don't have the luxury of skipping valuable FKK time. I don't live in a country where these clubs exist at all and hey. It was my final night.
Took the train to Bad Homburg. Had read in this forum years ago some great advice that there are frequently very few taxis at Freidrichsdorf HBF. I'd once not believed it, took the train all the way to Freidrichsdorf only to find no taxis and ended up having to call Oase to send one to me. No such problem at Bad Homburg and 20 euros later I arrived. At that point there was no sign of the snow which was to follow whilst I was enjoying the club.
Immediately appreciated that the club was very busy. I arrived at 7 pm. There were only 4 locker keys available! Paid entry and was given key to locker 150. Nightmare. Right at the end of a row full of guys. I later changed to 052 under protest from the front desk. It was impossible most of the time to get to my locker! By 8 pm there were no locker keys left at all. I wondered what happens then? Do they turn guys away? Would be interested to know from more experienced regulars.
I'm the sort of punter who likes to ease my way into a club. I rarely have a room in the first hour. I take a beer, maybe some food, have a couple of walks around to take in the overall LU. Not so tonight. I enter the area at the top of the stairs above the jacuzzi and I cannot take my eyes off the tallest WG I've ever seen who is just stunning. Long flowing dark / red hair, high cheek bones, slim, bee cups, I go say Hi immediately to Kathryn / Katelyn / Katherine? Bulgarian. Some tattoos (not intrusive), big lips, amazing green eyes. With the exception of Melissa (Scandalo Malaga, Spanish club for those of you who also frequent Spain) this tall beauty is possibly the most striking woman I've seen in all my years of mongering. I'd reported no 9's or 10's in Oceans, a couple of 9's in Sharks the previous night but no 10. For me, this woman was a 10 from the moment I saw her. Melissa is facially the most attractive WG I've ever seen / sessioned with (she still works in Scandalo) but the overall impact of this tall stunner was instant and I was taking her to the room before I'd even got a drink. I didn't want to "miss out" if she was one of those girls who gets booked for hours on end.
Kathryn was dominant in the room. No DFK, confirmed it would be on offer for longer time (annoying). Ditto other services (. I explained that as it was my first room I'd want to repeat later and include other things. She said "I have no boundaries". This woman is VERY skilful and maintains eye contact 100% of the time. We are all used to having a girl in doggy and wanting to pound away unrestricted. This woman does the pounding. Her reverse cowgirl was so strong she had me close to completion inside 5 minutes and that really is not me. Managed to exert some influence to prevent an embarrassing and unwanted early finish. The temptation to stay longer was enormous but I wanted to get into the club. I'd not walked anywhere to even see the rest of the LU. However, Kathryn's downfall is that she is one of those EE girls who has a very cold nature. We did share some laughs but it was a real effort to get her to do so. During the remaining 8 hours+ I was in the club (left at 3. 30 am) I only saw her have a couple of other clients. Sure I was in rooms myself (see below) but she was often free in the main lounge area and I think her "chill effect" personality is the cause. She does not mean to be, nor is not, unfriendly. She just gives off a vibe of assertiveness and coldness which I think is offputting to many. Would I repeat. Most definitely.
So to the bar for a drink only to recall that unlike the sensible FOB system in Oceans and Sharks, this club (like Artemis in Berlin) still operates the stupid policy of having to buy tokens. And buy them from the highly unfriendly receptionist. What a nuisance. I don't like wearing robes. I wear the towel. The clubs are hot and I prefer not to feel shrouded. So every time I wanted a drink I have to go down those stairs, collect cash, back up to reception, buy a poker chip for 10, spend it at the bar. No pockets in a towel! That's my own problem but the system is just very unhelpful.
Next up I decide to session with the slim girl with wavy hair who has been dancing in the middle of the lounge. Turns out she is Soraya. Ro. Great fun-time lady. The complete antithesis of Kathryn. Off we go, many attempts at upsell but loved her body and in particular her very tight pussy. But I struggle to enjoy a woman who holds your dick to control penetration. Three times I gently asked her not to do this and I'd be slow / gentle to start. She was not to be persuaded and so, despite really liking her body, I call time after 30 minutes. As we go to the top of the stairs she says "It's 100 baby". I say it's not. We had standard service with nothing extra provided or requested and its 50. "For THAT service?" She remonstrates. She is furious. I didn't understand why, tried to ask her but she was not willing to discuss it and went off in a strop telling me not to ask to repeat! WIR? Not with the "holding" policy and crazy attitude.
Food was ok if nothing special. Not as good as Sharks for me. Went for a very bracing walk around the outside area in just the towel. It was -3 and I could see people looking at me thinking I was drunk or crazy. I wasn't drunk but sure it was a crazy thing to do but it sure woke me up.
Spent 20 minutes in conversation with three great guys from NYC. If you are reading this guys you did find ISG and I hope your final night tonight is good!
Room 3 was with the pretty Alisha. Blonde Ro. A little curvier than I'd have preferred but on this whole trip I didn't have any rooms with a girl with big breasts and in the absence of my favourite Elizabeth Hung. (she didn't appear all night) this girl was the right choice for me. Alisha was a lovely lady to spend time with, no holding your dick nonsense and was very happy to be fully impaled! We used one of the very large rooms at the end of the pool area near the relax area for guys. Limited it to 30 minutes again. I would definitely repeat.
Was very much deciding that my final room would be 2 hours with Kathryn despite the cold impression. I just found that whenever she walked past I was mesmerised. But started a conversation at the bar in the main lounge with blonde Ro. Rosa. Facially pretty, slightly sagging boobs but lovely bum / smile and she was clearly intelligent and I just had a feeling she would be good and the chemistry would be right. So it proved as we did 2 hours and a whole variety of things costing me a total of 350 e which was worth every cent. She was a pleasure to spend time with and I'd 100% repeat.
On the way to the lockers to get showered and leave Soraya approaches me and asks if I want to repeat? She must have by then been finding the pickings slim!
Kathryn smiles at me in a "you're full of shit. You said we'd have a long time in the room". This is entirely true. It was the intelligence and personality of Rosa which won the battle but I leave Germany with only one regret. That I didn't spend more time with Kathryn the Great.
Had a great night in Oase. I thought the overall LU was actually weaker than Sharks on the Friday. The lighting in Oase is much better than Oceans or Sharks which means you get to seek the girl / face / body much better which is a plus. The drinks tokens nonsense is a definite negative.
Left to find snow everywhere and a tricky cab back to central Frankfurt.
Until the next time.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154852]So every time I wanted a drink I have to go down those stairs, collect cash, back up to reception, buy a poker chip for 10, spend it at the bar. No pockets in a towel! That's my own problem but the system is just very unhelpful.[/QUOTE]Why don't you deposit your money in the small safes next to the bar?
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Kathyrn the Great!
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154852]I'm the sort of punter who likes to ease my way into a club. I rarely have a room in the first hour. I take a beer, maybe some food, have a couple of walks around to take in the overall LU. Not so tonight. I enter the area at the top of the stairs above the jacuzzi and I cannot take my eyes off the tallest WG I've ever seen who is just stunning. Long flowing dark / red hair, high cheek bones, slim, bee cups, I go say Hi immediately to Kathryn / Katelyn / Katherine? Bulgarian. Some tattoos (not intrusive), big lips, amazing green eyes. With the exception of Melissa (Scandalo Malaga, Spanish club for those of you who also frequent Spain) this tall beauty is possibly the most striking woman I've seen in all my years of mongering. I'd reported no 9's or 10's in Oceans, a couple of 9's in Sharks the previous night but no 10. For me, this woman was a 10 from the moment I saw her. Melissa is facially the most attractive WG I've ever seen / sessioned with (she still works in Scandalo) but the overall impact of this tall stunner was instant and I was taking her to the room before I'd even got a drink. I didn't want to "miss out" if she was one of those girls who gets booked for hours on end.
Kathryn was dominant in the room. No DFK, confirmed it would be on offer for longer time (annoying). Ditto other services (. I explained that as it was my first room I'd want to repeat later and include other things. She said "I have no boundaries". This woman is VERY skilful and maintains eye contact 100% of the time. We are all used to having a girl in doggy and wanting to pound away unrestricted. This woman does the pounding. Her reverse cowgirl was so strong she had me close to completion inside 5 minutes and that really is not me. Managed to exert some influence to prevent an embarrassing and unwanted early finish. The temptation to stay longer was enormous but I wanted to get into the club. I'd not walked anywhere to even see the rest of the LU. However, Kathryn's downfall is that she is one of those EE girls who has a very cold nature. We did share some laughs but it was a real effort to get her to do so. During the remaining 8 hours+ I was in the club (left at 3. 30 am) I only saw her have a couple of other clients. Sure I was in rooms myself (see below) but she was often free in the main lounge area and I think her "chill effect" personality is the cause. She does not mean to be, nor is not, unfriendly. She just gives off a vibe of assertiveness and coldness which I think is offputting to many. Would I repeat. Most definitely..[/QUOTE]Thanks for that nice report PayForIt. If you say this "Kathryn" is in the same league as "Melissa" at Scandalo in Spain, who we both have had the pleasure of, then a very attractive woman she must be indeed! And I'm glad you didn't let that "Soraya" take advantage of you with her bullshit. And then she had the nerve to ask for a repeat! I mean the behavior of some of these tutes is just despicable when it comes to trying to rip mongers off. You should have taken her ass to reception is what. But, you're too nice a guy for that. Dumb ass tutes with their short-term thinking. Anyway, thanks for a good report on one of my favorite FKK clubs!
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154852] But us tourists don't have the luxury of skipping valuable FKK time. I don't live in a country where these clubs exist at all and hey. It was my final night.[/QUOTE]I agree, all my trips are for 6-9 days that I have booked thru September now and I do not want to skip days either and I hit burn out after 4-5 days (no longer a spring chicken sadly that can go 2-4 times a day for a week) so for now on will just book 4-5 day trips (even 3 full days is enough and we fly thru the night so time adjustments no issue at all) and miss no action and just increase the number of trips. I too live in a country where these clubs (and Adult Day Care Centers) do not exist so need to get maximum value / enjoyment out of my dollar which means no skipping valuable FKK time as you say in turn means shorter trips for me before returns become diminished. Short, sweet and to the point.
Thanks for the very detailed reports always enjoyed reading your literary works especially in Spain too in the South and your club visits to the Madrid area. Keep up the good, honest and detailed reporting!
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Mid trip breaks.
[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2154912]I agree, all my trips are for 6-9 days that I have booked thru September now and I do not want to skip days either and I hit burn out after 4-5 days (no longer a spring chicken sadly that can go 2-4 times a day for a week) so for now on will just book 4-5 day trips (even 3 full days is enough and we fly thru the night so time adjustments no issue at all) and miss no action and just increase the number of trips. I too live in a country where these clubs (and Adult Day Care Centers) do not exist so need to get maximum value / enjoyment out of my dollar which means no skipping valuable FKK time as you say in turn means shorter trips for me before returns become diminished. Short, sweet and to the point.
Thanks for the very detailed reports always enjoyed reading your literary works especially in Spain too in the South and your club visits to the Madrid area. Keep up the good, honest and detailed reporting![/QUOTE]I also make mongering trips that are over a week long. Like you, I struggle with making the most of my trip and want to go clubbing everyday but face burnout after 4 or 5 days. Instead of making more trips and increasing my travel overhead, I found value in taking the 2-3 day break. I often take excursions to Amsterdam or Eastern Europe because transcontinental transportation is so affordable. You can get to Eastern Europe via WizzAir and anywhere in Europe with Ryan. Air. When booked in advance these fairs are usually less than cab fair to the club. My recently booked a RyanAir flight from Koln to Venice for 16.95 Euro!
I find that a nice halftime allows me to have 2 fully energized five day trips for the low overhead of one transcontinental flight. Plus, it allows me to alter plans if I find that the line up is poor at certain clubs on the first half of my trip. My last two trips were done this way and the second halves were both better than the first.
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Habits are hard to break
[QUOTE=RogueNation;2154861]Why don't you deposit your money in the small safes next to the bar?[/QUOTE]Perfectly fair point and in this club obviously the thing to do. But I have enough trouble not losing the FOB that's attached to my wrist without losing another one! Fair point though and I'll give I a go next time. Cheers.
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Very different species!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2154888] If you say this "Kathryn" is in the same league as "Melissa" at Scandalo in Spain, who we both have had the pleasure of, then a very attractive woman she must be indeed! [/QUOTE]Thanks re the report. Now these two women are almost separate species. As you know, Melissa, facially is just 11/10. I've often wondered why she does this work. Yes sure its the $ but she could very easily model. I've asked her and she said she only now does 2 or 3 days, plus the odd regular (outside so she doesn't suffer burn out, is selective even on her work days about who she rooms with and spends a lot of cash on skincare, products etc. It shows. Her boob job is a good one but her ass could be fitter / smaller. I rate her body 9/10 but everything else 10+ (if that be possible).
Kathryn the Great is almost double Melissa's height! And most people's! Striking face / jawline / high cheeks. Very large green eyes and big hair. Melissa is stunning. Kathryn is imposing. Facially she isn't as pretty as Melissa. But boy does she grab your attention. I'm determined to return to sample the ice maiden again and work hard to get her to thaw!
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154980]Thanks re the report. Now these two women are almost separate species. As you know, Melissa, facially is just 11/10. I've often wondered why she does this work. Yes sure its the $ but she could very easily model. I've asked her and she said she only now does 2 or 3 days, plus the odd regular (outside so she doesn't suffer burn out, is selective even on her work days about who she rooms with and spends a lot of cash on skincare, products etc. It shows. Her boob job is a good one but her ass could be fitter / smaller. I rate her body 9/10 but everything else 10+ (if that be possible).
Kathryn the Great is almost double Melissa's height! And most people's! Striking face / jawline / high cheeks. Very large green eyes and big hair. Melissa is stunning. Kathryn is imposing. Facially she isn't as pretty as Melissa. But boy does she grab your attention. I'm determined to return to sample the ice maiden again and work hard to get her to thaw![/QUOTE]Is she model type, long chestnut hair, beautiful green eyes, long nose, Bulgarian? But no sensuality in bed for my room on 2017, 50 were enough for her, done but no need to repeat even she kissed a bit. At least she is honest and pretty, but that s not enough to dream. But possible to have 50 € room with her. When I enjoy, I never stay only 30 mn with a enjoyable girl.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154980] I'm determined to return to sample the ice maiden again and work hard to get her to thaw![/QUOTE]Talk to her about Global Warming, maybe? You know, just to break the ice...
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154852]................. But I struggle to enjoy a woman who holds your dick to control penetration. Three times I gently asked her not to do this and I'd be slow / gentle to start. She was not to be persuaded and so, despite really liking her body, I call time after 30 minutes. As we go to the top of the stairs she says "It's 100 baby". I say it's not. We had standard service with nothing extra provided or requested and its 50. "For THAT service?" She remonstrates. She is furious. I didn't understand why, tried to ask her but she was not willing to discuss it and went off in a strop telling me not to ask to repeat! WIR? Not with the "holding" policy and crazy attitude..........[/QUOTE]The absolute worst that could happen to me during FS is the girl holding on to my dick. In an environment where BBBJ and CIM are not upsold I would quickly resort to that. I find too many EE girls do that and since I refuse to give such a girl more than 50 E I will end the session unfullfilled like you did. Kudos to you especially for naming the provider.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2154988]Is she model type, long chestnut hair, beautiful green eyes, long nose, Bulgarian? But no sensuality in bed for my room on 2017, 50 were enough for her, done but no need to repeat even she kissed a bit. At least she is honest and pretty, but that s not enough to dream. But possible to have 50 room with her. When I enjoy, I never stay only 30 mn with a enjoyable girl.[/QUOTE]From the description Kathryn sounds like the girl who refused me a 50 E session so I passed. Perhaps I was too hasty and should have chatted with her a bit. She is the type of girl with whom I'd do a 100 E session but only after testing the waters with a 50 E session first.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2155052]From the description Kathryn sounds like the girl who refused me a 50 E session so I passed. Perhaps I was too hasty and should have chatted with her a bit. She is the type of girl with whom I'd do a 100 E session but only after testing the waters with a 50 E session first.[/QUOTE]Don't make the things too theoretical, if she doesnt want just go to fuck another prostitute in the club.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2154852]By 8 pm there were no locker keys left at all. I wondered what happens then? Do they turn guys away? Would be interested to know[/QUOTE]If there are no more locker keys available, guys have to wait in a queue until guys are checking-out and leaving the club.
I was there also yesterday and I can confirm. Katherine from Bulgaria was looking great. Thanks for the report, PayFor it.
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Oase Visit 16 March-Friday
The place was full of girls. Girls to guys ratio was at least 5. I guess all punters was gone to World. I have taken Daniela from Spain and two other romanians. I got BBBJ and DFK without extra payment. Only Daniela asked for additional payment for DFK and BBBJ as expected and I included CIM to this price. And at the end I couldn't resist to come inside her. (with condom of course) . And she gave me some massage to compansate the price. Due to low number of men some girls were too aggressive. For example the fat black haired Greek girl asked me 5 times. I enjoyed the place. Oral sex in kino not exist anymore. Food was bad again. The lamb they gave was the worst I ever had. Again chicken and chicken.