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[QUOTE=Turgid;1865833]In my last visit to Oase four years ago I generally got poor service for half hour sessions. If I do return to FKK land later this year which is my intent at the moment I most likely will opt more for one hour sessions. Do any of you guys generally still get upselling in the room when you agree to one hour?[/QUOTE]That's funny because back then Oase was considered a reliable club in terms of service(for me), and I would say I've met some great girls that year (2012), and coctail nigh were the nights I would meet some new talents, the lounge atmosphere was great later at night with the cheap cocktails. Of course upselling is always there to some degree(but, notice it more now than before with more Palace style) since the Hessen extra rates has always been higher than NRW. Since I visit the two regions, there was a difference when I did a sweep of NRW the first time. Upselling can mean different things. Hard or soft push for extras like Anal or CIM. Or telling you something that is not considered extra are extras. The difference I notice is of course back then I have not negotiated with girl before session. I've had lots of instances of going into the cinema (or the couch area), some pre-zimmer kissing time which sealed the deal. So, I pretty much knew what I was in for. Hence reliable. Can't recall any negotiations for 1 HR for kissing or whatnot back then.
So, there has been some changes in that respect(pre-zimmer kissing time) over the years, and it was more wide spread as other clubs were in the same lines(to less degree) back then. This kinda stuff happens mostly at RTC type venues now a days.
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The Art of the deal
[QUOTE=Turgid;1865833]Do any of you guys generally still get upselling in the room when you agree to one hour?[/QUOTE]I'm almost exclusively an hour session man, and I literally never am subjected to upselling. Not ever. That's because I make it absolutely clear before I go to the room what I want, and that's it. The deal is sealed before we head to the zimmer, and that's final! I've not had any girls not respect that. Now, level of performance is another thing, but generally speaking I tend to get good sessions with the girl doing everything I asked for, and doing it well. Otherwise, I wouldn't be a fan of the FKKs.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1866265]That's funny because back then Oase was considered a reliable club in terms of service(for me), and I would say I've met some great girls that year (2012), and coctail nigh were the nights I would meet some new talents, the lounge atmosphere was great later at night with the cheap cocktails. Of course upselling is always there to some degree(but, notice it more now than before with more Palace style) since the Hessen extra rates has always been higher than NRW. Since I visit the two regions, there was a difference when I did a sweep of NRW the first time. Upselling can mean different things. Hard or soft push for extras like Anal or CIM. Or telling you something that is not considered extra are extras. The difference I notice is of course back then I have not negotiated with girl before session. I've had lots of instances of going into the cinema (or the couch area), some pre-zimmer kissing time which sealed the deal. So, I pretty much knew what I was in for. Hence reliable. Can't recall any negotiations for 1 HR for kissing or whatnot back then.
So, there has been some changes in that respect(pre-zimmer kissing time) over the years, and it was more wide spread as other clubs were in the same lines(to less degree) back then. This kinda stuff happens mostly at RTC type venues now a days.[/QUOTE]My first forays into FKK land were in the 2000's. My dens of choice were Oase and Palace and boy did I have a good time! Then came the year 2010 on that fateful day when I entered Palace and had my worst FKK visit ever, I chose 3 girls consecutively and the atmosphere was so foul in the rooms from the constant upselling and bad attitudes that I could not bust a nut and then and there vowed never to return. In my second trip to Germany that year I stuck to Oase and had one of my best experiences in Germany ever. 2011 was an ok year although I remember one instance of upselling at Oase. Then came my last trip in 2012 where I found that in many of my half hour sessions the girls seemed to want to initiate their own sequences rather than abide by my choices, promising me a better session if I "upgraded". Hence the reason why I have not yet returned to Deutchland. I am aware of the mantra of sessioning with recommended girls but I can't do that; I go with my own flow when I'm on the prowl. I have only ever done one 1 hour session at an FKK and that was with an amazing Romanian whose name I cannot recall now. I always think that, hey, I can bang another chica for that extra 50€.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1866282]I'm almost exclusively an hour session man, and I literally never am subjected to upselling. Not ever. That's because I make it absolutely clear before I go to the room what I want, and that's it. The deal is sealed before we head to the zimmer, and that's final! I've not had any girls not respect that. Now, level of performance is another thing, but generally speaking I tend to get good sessions with the girl doing everything I asked for, and doing it well. Otherwise, I wouldn't be a fan of the FKKs.[/QUOTE]I suppose one good 1 hour session is better than two bad ½ hour ones. But I know that the memory of past stellar half hour sessions is going to make me want to end a session at the half hour mark and give another chica a try.
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If anyone is worried about getting poor 30 minute sessions just choose another club. There are 100's of FKK's. Not hard to go somewhere else instead.
Turgid, sounds like you need to go to NRW where scams and upsell are almost non-existent. If your experience is only Palace and Oase, switch to Sharks if you only go to FRA.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1866462]My first forays into FKK land were in the 2000's. My dens of choice were Oase and Palace and boy did I have a good time! Then came the year 2010 on that fateful day when I entered Palace and had my worst FKK visit ever, I chose 3 girls consecutively and the atmosphere was so foul in the rooms from the constant upselling and bad attitudes that I could not bust a nut and then and there vowed never to return. In my second trip to Germany that year I stuck to Oase and had one of my best experiences in Germany ever. 2011 was an ok year although I remember one instance of upselling at Oase. Then came my last trip in 2012 where I found that in many of my half hour sessions the girls seemed to want to initiate their own sequences rather than abide by my choices, promising me a better session if I "upgraded". Hence the reason why I have not yet returned to Deutchland. I am aware of the mantra of sessioning with recommended girls but I can't do that; I go with my own flow when I'm on the prowl. I have only ever done one 1 hour session at an FKK and that was with an amazing Romanian whose name I cannot recall now. I always think that, hey, I can bang another chica for that extra 50.[/QUOTE]Palace has been personally boycotted since 2007. Too much bullshit with the management, in any dispute they automatically take the girl's (or should I say, her management's) side. They also have the attitude that I just will never reward with business, which is they're just doing you the biggest favor taking your money.
Now, if you're an experienced punter and you're good at solving the girls quickly, then go ahead, especially if you're staying in the city and don't have trans.
Surprised to hear all the negative reports about Oase. Thought they were smarter.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1866467]I suppose one good 1 hour session is better than two bad hour ones. But I know that the memory of past stellar half hour sessions is going to make me want to end a session at the half hour mark and give another chica a try.[/QUOTE]The situation with a lot of the infrequent visitors is that we are not familiar with the girls at the clubs, so there are folks that go by reports. Even with reports, it's not wholly certain on the outcome of the session. If you lock in with an unknown girl for 1 HR, you are double the monetary risk. Just makes most sense to extend if her service is good. I'd rather not deal with a girl I don't know that proposes 1 HR to include something or GFE packages or whatnot. I don't like negotiations or bad surprises (in the room). I am not as risk adverse at the NRW.
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Visited Oase 4 years ago. Met a girl: 22 Romania. 170 cm, slender, long black wavy hair, face like Catherine Zeta-Jones, a bit sharkish behavior, many customers, fantastic B-cups, pale skin. I think her name was Alina. Is she still working there?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1866626]Visited Oase 4 years ago. Met a girl: 22 Romania. 170 cm, slender, long black wavy hair, face like Catherine Zeta-Jones, a bit sharkish behavior, many costumers, fantastic be-cups, pale skin. I think her name was Alina. Is she still working there? Thanks.[/QUOTE]She moved to Palace over a year ago.
HB.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1866479]If anyone is worried about getting poor 30 minute sessions just choose another club. There are 100's of FKK's. Not hard to go somewhere else instead.
Turgid, sounds like you need to go to NRW where scams and upsell are almost non-existent. If your experience is only Palace and Oase, switch to Sharks if you only go to FRA.[/QUOTE]I've been foraging through posts on other clubs and have gleaned that there are indeed less complaints of demands for upgrades by girls at other clubs. It appears that the more popular a club gets the greater the upselling by the providers. Sharks has reportedly improved significantly since I last visited Frankfurt and I may very well patronize it much more than I will Oase if I get better service there.
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There's a blond curved girl with glasses here, I didn't see her last year, is she new to the business? She has a really innocent look LOL.
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Maybe she went over just after school and forgot to take of her glasses? Ask for her name.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1866876]Maybe she went over just after school and forgot to take of her glasses? Ask for her name.[/QUOTE]Her name is something like "badalina", 19 yos from constanza, claims to be in oase for one month.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1866934]Her name is something like "badalina" [/QUOTE]Hehe, lovely name. So what did you tell her your name was? .
Same age and place Andrea is from though. Friend perhaps? Or has she started using glasses?
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I missed the 'curved girl' part. Cannot be Andrea then. But Badalina sounds like a joke; p.