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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2009064] some guys are well known (politicians, business, sport, medias.) and they are really afraid to get pressurized.[/QUOTE]How many of those have you seen at Oase? Last time I saw a "celebrity" there was 12 years or more ago, two players from 1. FC Kaiserslautern.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009275]How many of those have you seen at Oase? Last time I saw a "celebrity" there was 12 years or more ago, two players from 1. FC Kaiserslautern.
HB.[/QUOTE]Only one other I can recall. A world famous DJ / producer was in Oase several years back.
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;2009321]Only one other I can recall. A world famous DJ / producer was in Oase several years back.[/QUOTE]Where's the photo of him in the whirlpool with a chick on each side?
HB.
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I've personally talked to a famous person at Artemis. Not going to mention who he is, or what he does since he may very well be reading this forum for all we know. But security was increased at Artemis that day and I believe just a few of us knew why.
Also heard girls at Artemis mentioning famous music artists and footballers visiting. But in general I think very famous people are drawn to more hidden mongering places...
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2009340]I've personally talked to a famous person at Artemis. Not going to mention who he is, or what he does since he may very well be reading this forum for all we know. But security was increased at Artemis that day and I believe just a few of us knew why.[/QUOTE]= Vito Corleone. You're writing now in French style mention people without names. Great! Better keep it to yourself.
Seriously famous guys have enough groupies for free for a private orgy.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2009104]You finally said something I can agree with! I would say add New York and Tokyo too. Go there and see what you get for 150 euros. Hell, see what you get for 250 euros![/QUOTE]I can't even agree more. For European style girls German FKK clubs are the best AND CHEAPEST place in the world. And I have no understanding of this 50 euro discussions.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;2009349]For European style girls German FKK clubs are the best AND CHEAPEST place in the world. [/QUOTE]RLDs are much cheaper. But ofcourse the package at FKK's are the best. Thats why we are here on this forum. And thats why and how they attract people from all over the world. You don't see europeans or asians travelling to Lower Manhatten on sex vacations. Those prices are there for managers with 1 hour spare time per week between important meetings and dinners. And also because it is illegal and they dont have bouncers at the door...
Now how much money the girls make in total? None of us knows. 1 session a week, or 100... biggest fish in the tank etc. Same as the globe discussions allways end up in...
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2009351]RLDs are much cheaper. But ofcourse the package at FKK's are the best.[/QUOTE]Where is RLD in general cheaper? For sure it isn't in Frankfurt. RLD usually only 15 or 20 minutes, quite often only CBJ and no DFK. For comparable 30 minutes at Frankfurt RLD you pay usually at least also 50 euros. Only the extras like CIM or anal are usually much cheaper at RLD. But on the other hand at RLD most girls more than 30 or 40 or 50 yo. From appearance difficult to find a 7, better almost impossible at RLD. And than all this trash all around, no thank you, especially now after refugee wave.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2009012]I do get annoyed about how uptight the non-Oase clubs are about carrying my cell phone around with me. At one point in Mainhattan, I was sitting alone in the restaurant texting on my phone, which was sitting flat on the table. I was completely alone in the restaurant, not a single other girl or guy in the entire restaurant. One of the cooks scolded at me for having my phone with me, so I put my phone away in my towel (no longer visible). Despite my phone being put away, the guy actually insisted on accompanying me back to my locker to witness me putting it away. The staff at Oase are much more polite and they realize when someone is using their phone legitimately versus inappropriately, instead of treating their customers like children.
[/QUOTE]I think the general politeness of the girls and staff varies a lot. Not all are in a good mood yet most girls will be polite to me even I never booked them. Some get angry if they detect that we are talking about a girl to a buddy, even though we are recommending her. They should be realistic that guys like to discuss girls.
In one case, I arrived at a time when the breakfast food had been cleared away, and food was laid out for dinner but cordoned off. I asked a manger type if he minded if I took a banana since was some time till dinner time as yet and I had got no food whatsoever for the day. He allowed it but some other junior member of staff tried to stop me and was quite angry. Seemed he feared reprimand from the boss. However the "manager" type overrode him. So good that some can see sense, beyond the "rules". I realise their are friendly types there and also a few cranky types.
I agree about girl gossip, so it is wise to behave well and not get a bad reputation. Some girls seem to have expectations of how I behave in the room, even we have never sessioned. Definitely stories travel and maybe over exaggerated. One top girl told me I was no where near as difficult as what she had expected. The reality is we are not perceived in the same way by all girls. Good on the bed for some and bad for others. Some are scared or anxious and some not at all. My dick drops quickly when the girl clearly does not want it.
While good 50 Euro sessions are still possible, it is getting less likely that non regulars at the club are going to pick the right girls to get exception 50 Euro sessions. 50 is not worth what it was in the early 2000's. Entrance price for the girls surely went up, and girl to customer ratios are not like in the old days when this club was packed out. Even the smart girl stars are likely making less money than 5 to 10 years ago.
It is obvious that girls want good customers who book extended or very extended times. Just a few 50 sessions with long gaps between is not going to work well for them.
I also agree that girls who were average to crap on the first session, can improve greatly, once they warm to the customer and see the customer as a source of possible regular income. Blonde Christina of the past was a great example for me who improved dramatically once she realised I could be a regular long booking (and she needed the money LOL). Money and treating the girl nicely can overcome shyness and reluctance.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2009351]RLDs are much cheaper. But ofcourse the package at FKK's are the best. Thats why we are here on this forum. And thats why and how they attract people from all over the world. You don't see europeans or asians travelling to Lower Manhatten on sex vacations. Those prices are there for managers with 1 hour spare time per week between important meetings and dinners. And also because it is illegal and they dont have bouncers at the door...
Now how much money the girls make in total? None of us knows. 1 session a week, or 100... biggest fish in the tank etc. Same as the globe discussions allways end up in...[/QUOTE]I don't agree with you, we know how much a girl can earn but it is very different from girl to girl, in average a top girl is making around 500 euros a day some days 1500 euros or more some days 100 euros. The average looking girls are making around 250 euros a day.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2009430]I don't agree with you, we know how much a girl can earn but it is very different from girl to girl, in average a top girl is making around 500 euros a day some days 1500 euros or more some days 100 euros. The average looking girls are making around 250 euros a day.[/QUOTE]Hardly if you consider the amount of slow mondays, tuesdays, wednesdays etc. And look at the total amount of girls. The average income of the girls maybe, as some tend to drag the averages up alot. But not the average girls. The 'median girl'. They earn less. The median girl is happy with 5000 a month. From 25 days of work a month, that is 200 a day. And that is considered a good month... for the median girl...
Girls pay for the food. So no need to question them giving money to the reception... it is not an argument at all...
Craiova: I am not gonna question that statement RLDs suck... worst thing is the smell of those places... but prices are lower...
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2009430]I don't agree with you, we know how much a girl can earn but it is very different from girl to girl, in average a top girl is making around 500 euros a day some days 1500 euros or more some days 100 euros. The average looking girls are making around 250 euros a day.[/QUOTE]Busy superstars make 800/1000 per day on Friday and Saturday, sometimes nearly on Sunday, and less on week days, 15000/20000 per month. Only Sharks is very crowded on Wednesday.
Ex Hessen superstar, makes nearly 5000 from Friday noon to Sunday midnight, at Globe.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009332]Where's the photo of him in the whirlpool with a chick on each side?
HB.[/QUOTE]On a USB stick in Mauro's safe deposit box.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009275]How many of those (celebrities) have you seen at Oase? Last time I saw a "celebrity" there was 12 years or more ago, two players from 1. FC Kaiserslautern.
HB.[/QUOTE]One night awhile back, the girls were all in a tizzy because a famous VIP Romanian singer was visiting Oase. Of course, I didn't recognize him but all the girls immediately recognized him and knew who he was. His presence created quite a commotion among the girls when her first arrived as all the girls had to go see him for themselves.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009061] The guy was fat, old and ugly.[/QUOTE]Also grey haired.