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[QUOTE=Pistons;2115401]Or Oase should be upfront about it and increase the 50 e to 60 or even 70 e.[/QUOTE]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2116192]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.[/QUOTE]Legally it is a complicate subject, knowing that the girls are not employed by the clubs, they are free to establish their own prices even more true with the new law.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2116192]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.[/QUOTE]It's really amazing that prices stayed so low for so long. Inflation affects everyone!
But I think pretty soon mongers will start getting burned via Brexit.
The expected influx of bankers is already making real estate agents rich, and they're just a step above tutes. (bad joke, sorry, but you know what I mean.).
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116221]It's really amazing that prices stayed so low for so long. Inflation affects everyone!
But I think pretty soon mongers will start getting burned via Brexit.
The expected influx of bankers is already making real estate agents rich, and they're just a step above tutes. (bad joke, sorry, but you know what I mean.).[/QUOTE]Very small impact, they are more going to escorts and there are 400000 to 600000 prostitutes in Germany.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2115161]Saturday night in my local town is nearer FKK than Oase.[/QUOTE]I should relocate to where you live, Optimist!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2116192]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.[/QUOTE]Where these girls come from, 50 euro is a LOT of money. 50 or 75 makes no difference for them. They have no 30 minute euro value bar that will make them content. No matter what the half hour price, they greedy girls will ask for more and the less greedy girls will not.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2116192]The time for establishments setting a higher price is long past. FKKs should have done that a long time ago. The girls are now setting their own price and from what I am reading some girls in Palace are now charging 100 e for normal service. Had the FKKs increased the price to lets say 75 e per 1/2 hour a few years ago girls would have been less inclined to set their own price. IMHO.[/QUOTE]The establishment can forward the rules set by the girls. This is just a formality.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116221]It's really amazing that prices stayed so low for so long. Inflation affects everyone!
But I think pretty soon mongers will start getting burned via Brexit.
The expected influx of bankers is already making real estate agents rich, and they're just a step above tutes. (bad joke, sorry, but you know what I mean.).[/QUOTE]Maybe. Maybe the added customers will make the girls happy with just more sessions also instead of hiking the prices too much. 100 e for 30 min would completely kill off everyone on this forum, all the french and all the dutch from going all the way to Hessen though. But 60-65 e sure. If it also comes with more selection in the lineups it could be an ok deal for me actually.
Myself I think there is a gap to fill in the available buffer offered by the girls currently working in Hessen. And a few clubs have probably more room additional girls before prices spike. At least if normal market forces rule. And to some degree they do I guess.
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Some updates from the girls / club – there are not much business nowadays. I was told that the Christmas party was full of people but mostly drunk, LOL. The next day, the club was rather empty with more girls than guy. Some of the girls have already left for Holidays (Adele, Alina). Some are leaving in the next week (Anna, Antonia, Kati, Vicki).
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2116526]Some updates from the girls / club there are not much business nowadays. I was told that the Christmas party was full of people but mostly drunk, LOL. The next day, the club was rather empty with more girls than guy. Some of the girls have already left for Holidays (Adele, Alina). Some are leaving in the next week (Anna, Antonia, Kati, Vicki).[/QUOTE]Fully true December is never a good month for the girls in the clubs, the guys need to buy gifts for the family, around 15 of December to 10 of January I never visit any club, too poor LU for me mostly older woman the young need to go back to Roumania like Alina, Anna. I have nothing against the older woman but I feel immediately when a girl spent 10 years in the job from escort to apartment to Laufhaus and FKK, there is no more anything spontaneous coming from them.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2116358]Maybe. Maybe the added customers will make the girls happy with just more sessions also instead of hiking the prices too much. 100 e for 30 min would completely kill off everyone on this forum, all the french and all the dutch from going all the way to Hessen though. But 60-65 e sure. If it also comes with more selection in the lineups it could be an ok deal for me actually.
Myself I think there is a gap to fill in the available buffer offered by the girls currently working in Hessen. And a few clubs have probably more room additional girls before prices spike. At least if normal market forces rule. And to some degree they do I guess.[/QUOTE]This would be a really interesting business study. As we know, FKK is platform, bringing together buyers and sellers. Right now, it's assumed there's an equilibrium at 50 E. But what happens if a club raises session to price to 75 E? Would that bring more girls and then more mongers, creating a virtuous cycle? Or would it go the other way, higher session price leading to fewer mongers leading to fewer girls? Are girls and mongers more price-driven or quality-driven?
And then, of course, you'd have to factor in the girls who stay at a certain club because their friends are there. And you'd have to factor out the population that only comes to drink and doesn't session.
(Any FKK owners here reading this, I'm available to hire as a consultant.)
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Here is how a lack of price correction for inflation has impacted places like Oase. As 50 euro becomes less and less valuable the perceived income drops, and this kind of work becomes less desirable especially for women from robust economies. 50 euro may seem like a lot to Romanian women. But over the last decade or two fewer and fewer women from Poland or Russia or (especially) from Germany itself can be found working in FKKs.
So yes the price has stayed the same, but at the cost of chasing out women not from the poorest countries.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116577]This would be a really interesting business study. As we know, FKK is platform, bringing together buyers and sellers. Right now, it's assumed there's an equilibrium at 50 E. But what happens if a club raises session to price to 75 E? Would that bring more girls and then more mongers, creating a virtuous cycle? Or would it go the other way, higher session price leading to fewer mongers leading to fewer girls? Are girls and mongers more price-driven or quality-driven?
And then, of course, you'd have to factor in the girls who stay at a certain club because their friends are there. And you'd have to factor out the population that only comes to drink and doesn't session.
(Any FKK owners here reading this, I'm available to hire as a consultant.)[/QUOTE]Indeed, but there are many factors at play here, and its hard to avoid one spilling over while making such a study. Not to mention how it can take 2 or even 3 years before the market settles both with the new equilibrium of girls, and the customers. Both tourists and locals and ex pats.
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And those 2-3 years could be very detrimental to the club. Not to mention the problem of holding onto the girls during this time. I would guess it would be impossible for a club with local competition to pull that off going from 50 to 75.50% price hike is just too much. But from 50 to 60, maybe.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2116358]Maybe. Maybe the added customers will make the girls happy with just more sessions also instead of hiking the prices too much. 100 e for 30 min would completely kill off everyone on this forum, all the french and all the dutch from going all the way to Hessen though. But 60-65 e sure. If it also comes with more selection in the lineups it could be an ok deal for me actually.
Myself I think there is a gap to fill in the available buffer offered by the girls currently working in Hessen. And a few clubs have probably more room additional girls before prices spike. At least if normal market forces rule. And to some degree they do I guess.[/QUOTE]OK, suppose 60 eu 30 min. My concern is, how does it impact the 1 HR room? You see, due to some difficulty finishing in 30 min I end up in many 1 HR rooms. And girls are happy with me. Sorry, but I don't like your idea, it sure will harm my mongering experience.