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[QUOTE=Katinka;1840320]Well I went back to Oase this afternoon. I decided to take advantage of being recognized from yesterday instead of starting fresh at Sharks.
I was interviewing Mia to determine her suitability for my first session of the day. I asked her about extras and she confirmed that she did a CIM finish, and I confirmed that her CIM included not quitting until I was completely finished. She confirmed. Then I teased her that she had left out the most important part. She was a little confused, so I asked her if she knew what GFE meant. I believe that she sincerely pleaded ignorance.
A little aside, fellow mongers, who live here and train these girls, you are letting this two or three times a year man down in your training.
In any event, in a bit of a solemn tone, I explained that it meant Girl Friend Experience. After a brief hesitation, she acknowledged that she knew what I was driving at and said, in what I considered to be a refined Palace style, "well we would need to do an hour so that we would have time to take it slow and enjoy it. " Here is my new refinement. I acted very disappointed. And said that I just didn't think that I could last an hour with her. So she turned the table on me a bit, and confirmed that I wanted a CIM finish which would be 100 Euros anyway..[/QUOTE]None o f the girl will refuse something if you put the right price, most are Romanian and they absolutely need the money to live pay for the chemic of the farther etc. They are here just for money sorry but don t believe something else.
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[QUOTE=Katinka;1840320]
In any event, in a bit of a solemn tone, I explained that it meant Girl Friend Experience. After a brief hesitation, she acknowledged that she knew what I was driving at [/QUOTE]Sometimes I tell a girl I want the girlfriend experience. I tell them they have to yell at me to take out the trash, constantly nag me, constantly ask me where I'm going, tell me to turn that shit down, and say stuff like, "here, hold my purse babe," you know, all the shit girlfriends tend to say.
If they don't understand GFE, just show them this YouTube video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y6dDQ129UM[/URL].
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1840480]Sometimes I tell a girl I want the girlfriend experience. I tell them they have to yell at me to take out the trash, constantly nag me, constantly ask me where I'm going, tell me to turn that shit down, and say stuff like, "here, hold my purse babe," you know, all the shit girlfriends tend to say.
If they don't understand GFE, just show them this YouTube video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y6dDQ129UM[/URL].[/QUOTE]That is the wife experience. That is one reason that I tell young guys not to marry them, just fuck them. The other reason is this. I have a buddy that just hit his number and retired. His wife has become unbearable. Here is why. He was advised that since she never worked, not only would he have to split the $10 million pot with her, he will have to pay her lifetime alimony. She will be a wealthy woman and he will be living in an efficiency apartment. In effect she gets 2/3 and he gets 1/3 and he earned every penny while she took tennis lessons.
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I thought that was called 'the wife experiment'. You never know how they turn out before you wed them...
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+1 LOL.
It seems most of us want girl friend experience when we visit working girls, and want our real life girl friends to me more like working girls (more blow jobs, be clean shaven, be more open to different positions and different kinds of sex, etc) , and when neither happens regularly, we complain. LOL.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1840480]Sometimes I tell a girl I want the girlfriend experience. I tell them they have to yell at me to take out the trash, constantly nag me, constantly ask me where I'm going, tell me to turn that shit down, and say stuff like, "here, hold my purse babe," you know, all the shit girlfriends tend to say.
If they don't understand GFE, just show them this YouTube video: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y6dDQ129UM[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Leduq;1840430]Hi guys,
I have some time in Frankfurt between two flights, and would like to come to Oase, but it would have to be at opening time 10 am (on a Wednesday), and until about 5 pm max. Would the line up be OK starting in the morning, or the best looking girls only arrive in the evening / night?
Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]This is not ideal. Very early there are limited girls available. Many arrive at 5 pm, and some at 3 pm or 4 pm, but that maybe too late for you. If you are not a really fussy type, should do okay.
I prefer to arrive at 3 PM or 4 PM, to catch girls from both early and late shifts. See who arrives for late shift, so to plan my priority list.
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[QUOTE=Katinka;1840320] She was a little confused, so I asked her if she knew what GFE meant. [/QUOTE]Not all girls read the forum, so many do not know what is GFE. By using the term yourself, you can give yourself away as being an ISG writer. Some girls dislike that. Most are still okay With me, and having a positive attitude mostly, and my money. LOL.
Even if you are intending to take CIM, you still have a right to fuck for a while. Girl is scared she will miss out on the CIM if you pop too early. I prefer never to promise a CIM. Hell sometimes her blowjob is not good enough to make CIM possible. Some girls do not have the slow motion soft sloppy technique I require. I have no special need for a CIM unless failing to cum from fucking. After 50 to 100 CIMs only, the novelty wears off. Some guys have taken many times that number. I prefer to use 50 to take more time.
There are other countries where CIM and anal cost no extra, if available.
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GFE, or at least girlfriend experience in full expanded form, is a well known acronym and not ISG specific in anyway. At least in th escort world, it is well known. There was a 2009 Steven Soddereberg movie starring Sasha Grey, (and those who watch American porn all know who Sasha Grey is,) titled The Girlfriend Experience, explicitly about a hooker going through the post financial crisis and offers high end personalized services. I did not watch the movie myself.
I guess other acronyms like CIM, BBBJ, BBFS, etc are also reasonably well known in the escorting/monger world at large and not limited to ISG.
I do think star fish (as it was applied gratuitously to describe Janine of Sharks, who I actually like) is probably a ISG patented expression. Have not heard it outside ISG, LOL. My guess is that granny turtle and Danish maestro are also ISG specific, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1840894]GFE, or at least girlfriend experience in full expanded form, is a well known acronym and not ISG specific in anyway. At least in th escort world, it is well known. There was a 2009 Steven Soddereberg movie starring Sasha Grey, (and those who watch American porn all know who Sasha Grey is,) titled The Girlfriend Experience, explicitly about a hooker going through the post financial crisis and offers high end personalized services. I did not watch the movie myself.
I guess other acronyms like CIM, BBBJ, BBFS, etc are also reasonably well known in the escorting/monger world at large and not limited to ISG.
I do think star fish (as it was applied gratuitously to describe Janine of Sharks, who I actually like) is probably a ISG patented expression. Have not heard it outside ISG, LOL. My guess is that granny turtle and Danish maestro are also ISG specific, LOL.[/QUOTE]We were talking about GFE in abbreviation form, I thought. At least I was.
I really would not know any of these abbreviations, without a sex forum of some type. I tried ISG first 2005, and briefly tried some other English forums that I found to be really crappy. Like one line smart ass comments throughout. LOL On non English forums the abbreviations are altered somewhat and were a new mystery at first. In some foreign forums, I find the writing to be Euphemistic and incomprehensible to me. Some posters used words that were not real words, in the proper language, rather typing weird sounds and exclamations. Not understandable to me. I don't even understand a fair bit of sexual American slang that is not fit for TV. It is not used where I come from. Starfish is a special case as it is not an abbreviation and its meaning is real clear without any explanation. I probably first encountered it on ISG as well, but no need to look up the meaning.
I was mongering many years before an ISG, and before the web became a source for finding sex. I have not used escorts. I accept that ISG does not own the abbreviations, but outside of the modern web, they would hardly exist. I don't use the term BBFS when talking to buddies and to me all Blowjobs are BBBJ, unless otherwise stated. I never take CBJ. Can't remember the last one. So verbally you just say blowjob. BBBJ is too cumbersome except on a forum.
As for porn, I thought porn was for looking at videos. I don't want to read anything attached to porn. In yester year, men's magazines were not using these abbreviations we talk about. The poor reader would not have understood.
Is there any other decent forum in English like the ISG? I didn't find it. I only found crap ones, not at all worthwhile. I do accept however that using a term GFE, does not prove you are an ISG member. What is the probability? 60%?
I could be misguided from paying no attention to Escorts, and little attention to text on porn sites. Is not porn and GFE a contradiction in terms? Girls forced to do all types of things that GFs don't do.
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I am not very good either with acronyms. I had to figure out what BBFS etc meant, from the context when I first encountered those acronyms on the web. It took me a long time to figure out what PSE meant.
I thought there was a place on ISG where all the acronyms are explicitly spelled out. Not sure where it is. I guess it doesn't take too much time to google them however.
Sodderbergh is not a porn guy, not that you implied it or anything. He was a pretty acclaimed Hollywood director with an Oscar to boot. I heard good stuff about that GFE movie when it first came out, but never got around to see it. But anyway, it is about a call girl who promises the elusive gfe experience I guess - the same as what most isg'ers seek, lol.
Is porn of any use? Well, you guys who get to monger nonstop in Germany or Thailand, week in week out, are lucky. For those of us stuck in other places, porn is a time filler, till the next FKK visit, LOL.
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I thought there was a place on ISG where all the acronyms are explicitly spelled out. Not sure where it is. [/QUOTE]Here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1897-Terms-and-Abbreviations-List[/URL].
HB.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1840884]This is not ideal. Very early there are limited girls available. Many arrive at 5 pm, and some at 3 pm or 4 pm, but that maybe too late for you. If you are not a really fussy type, should do okay.
I prefer to arrive at 3 PM or 4 PM, to catch girls from both early and late shifts. See who arrives for late shift, so to plan my priority list.[/QUOTE]However, I find those girls who arrive in the morning to be very pliable, since you are sort of "found money. ".
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1840887]y using the term yourself, you can give yourself away as being an ISG writer. Some girls dislike that. Most are still okay With me, and having a positive attitude mostly, and my money. LOL.
[/QUOTE]Sometimes I tell them that I will give them a good review. Just like I tell hotels that I post on trip advisor. Anything to increase a suppliers motivation to deliver good service is how I see it. Never had one ***** or whine about it.
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[QUOTE=Katinka;1841059]Sometimes I tell them that I will give them a good review. Just like I tell hotels that I post on trip advisor. Anything to increase a suppliers motivation to deliver good service is how I see it. Never had one ***** or whine about it.[/QUOTE]Only LOL. Smart top girls girls will laugh about this and don't consider you anymore as a worthwhile target. In my experience I use two things to get top level sex in good german FKK clubs. First respectful behavior in general and to the girls and the second even more important: money. The more you spend the more you get back. BTW the whole thing is called pay sex; a lot of dreamers forget this.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1841065]Only LOL. Smart top girls girls will laugh about this and don't consider you anymore as a worthwhile target. In my experience I use two things to get top level sex in good german FKK clubs. First respectful behavior in general and to the girls and the second even more important: money. The more you spend the more you get back. BTW the whole thing is called pay sex; a lot of dreamers forget this.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with except they love you like crazy (very seldom) the key driver is the money, all the rest is dream. Sometimes with some of my regular they ask me to give them good oral sex and they can come but very exceptional with new one.