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Again, it must be the case that the girls are selective about who they attempt upselling with, because in all the times I attend Oase, I rarely experience upselling. With the exception of one of the small Vanessas (who is upsell queen by the way! I don't even remember any girls ever trying to upsell me at Oase. Granted, this may be in part due to my poor memory.
Yet, there are plenty of reports here with guys reporting upselling. So, I can only conclude from this that the girls tailor their upselling based on their estimation of the clients. For example, Asians will definitely experience different tactics from the girls at Oase than other clients. Maybe this is also the case with upselling? Another possibility is that I carefully choose my girls to avoid the bad apples, but I don't give myself that much credit so I don't think that explains this difference.
I am just guessing as to why the girls try to upsell me, so here's my list: (1) They see my familiarity with other girls in the club and they see how positively the other girls respond to me in general. (2) Maybe they see me making plenty of long rooms? (3) My familiarity with the club (not a newbie). (4) Having facility with several languages, even including some Romanian -- that lends me some additional street cred. (4) other things I do in the club to entertain the girls. (5) I usually take my time in the room (not in a rush, trying to do a bunch of positions, boom, boom, boom, so rooms with me aren't particularly onerous).
Just speculation on my part. I really have no magic power to read their minds. In any case, for whatever reason, the upselling is certainly not universal to all clients, but appears to also vary based on identity of the client.
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[QUOTE=Dufey;1714920]Upselling before even you book a girl and also bad food and weak line up are all bad news for my visit to Oase. It is not right.[/QUOTE]I know. It is strange. Oase has some pushy girls, but usually it ok. I decided yesterday to try new girls and the girl I took were good just Suzi was upselling, but she always does. I always take a minimum of one hour sessions. I like to take my time, so this is atypical of Oase for me. Bad nights happen.
Food was awful last night that veg chicken stew and dry veggies. Sorry. I spoke with some other guys who felt the same and we were actually laughing at the upselling cause we sat together a few times. The good news is that it is an isolated incident as I am pretty happy at Oase mostly.
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Upsell
I can honestly say between 2009-2011 there was no upsell at oase. I never experienced it anyway. The girls did DFK across the board as was the 'GFE'. Oase was more like a university full of loving 18-22 year old sexy students all cosied up together under one umbrella. does anyone recall the good ol days?
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1715031]I can honestly say between 2009-2011 there was no upsell at oase. I never experienced it anyway. The girls did DFK across the board as was the 'GFE'. Oase was more like a university full of loving 18-22 year old sexy students all cosied up together under one umbrella. does anyone recall the good ol days?[/QUOTE]My time was 2011-2012 when I attended Oase regularly. 3-4 days at a time on some trips until I started shifting to NRW. I'd call it the good o' days looking back. 50 Euros went a long way back then from what I recall when it comes to what all was conducted in the room. Of course there was upselling going on too, but it was the typical kind you'd run into like proposing anal, and etc. Some girls trying to sell extras has always been there, which I noticed the difference from NRW since the rate of extras are lower there. Back then, girls didn't try extra for kissing or for 1 HR, it was either they did it or not. And high percentage of them kissed, and usually it started in the couches or the kino. After noticing the LU being a bit static, I started attending less, and stopped attending at some point, mainly went for Mainhattan, and did NRW for a duration. Then recently I noticed high percentage of LU has changed, and my stats to go along with it. 5/9 girls tried upselling for 1 HR in the beginning, of those 5, 2 would only kiss if agreed for 1 HR from the start which I declined since I never roomed with them before. After being away for awhile, this was a noticible difference from when I used attend frequently in the past. Back then I have not ran into girls trying to get me to agree for 1 HR from the get go, and only kiss for 1 HR. Foreplay on the couch kissing was the norm for me back then. I can think of number of lookers back then that didn't upsell. I don't care to look for girls reported at the club, I just scope out who looks attractive, and go with it. As I seen some recommended girls, and they turn out to be not my type. Also, based on some reports I've read after sessioning them, some girls turn out to be YMMV. So, if the vibe is good, I try them, and see where it leads.
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Yasmin
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1714912]Yes brunette Sabina is good. Jessica just didn't work for me. Don't remember why exactly (maybe was my fault). Yasmin was wanting to get out her sex toys and really control the session, a long time ago. No repeat based on that. I hope she has given up that style these days. I believe I have seen some good reports about Yasmin.[/QUOTE]Syzygies,
You definitely have a point, Yasmin seems to like to control the flow, but not in an aggressive way. More like. A sexy school teacher. I sort of liked it. She said "would you like to lick my pussy now?" and "now you fuck me doggy and I will lick her pussy. " I am happy to go with flow in the sessions, so I have no problem at all with a gorgeous 6 foot tall for with a fantastic body telling me how to fuck her, as long as it is a good ride. Certainly for those brothers that like to be more in control of the action, I acknowledge that could be an issue. In terms of sex toys, none were presented, but is am not sure I would have minded if she wanted to use them on Jessica. As long as she keeps that away from my corn hole, it's all good.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1714998]
I am just guessing as to why the girls try to upsell me, so here's my list: (1) They see my familiarity with other girls in the club and they see how positively the other girls respond to me in general. (2) Maybe they see me making plenty of long rooms? [/QUOTE]Oase girls probably would upsell you less, if the two reasons you provided are true.
If you get a lot of attention from the "top-earning" girls, then other girls can surmise that you've already probably dropped a few hundred (or even a few thousand euros) on that girl. If girls don't recognize you as somebody who attends every week, then they can surmise that you probably spent that type of money on the girl in short spurts either by doing long rooms or extras.
Also they don't have to necessarily see you doing long rooms, to know that you are probably doing long rooms. These girls work twelve hour shifts and many spend 75% or more of their shift sitting outside the zimmer smoking and observing. If they saw you at the beginning of their shift and you've been "missing in action" for most of the night, they will assume that you spent a lot of that time in the room. The only way the girl can be completely clueless about it is if: (1) the girl has never seen you before and (2) she has been too busy making rooms with other customers to notice you.
So yes, they may skip the "upsell" and just pull out all the stops, hoping that you will extend on your own like you've done with other girls. The WG uses her sales instincts. The purpose of the upsell is to induce the customer to spend more than the base 50. If they already know the likelihood is high for the customer to spend more than the base 50, then they could jeopardize things by killing the mood with an upsell.
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Overall, I agree that there is more upsell at Oase than any other club except Palace.
I will say that my sample size is not great because I don't attend Oase that much anymore and when I go I normally repeat girls I knew from before.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1715106]Overall, I agree that there is more upsell at Oase than any other club except Palace.
I will say that my sample size is not great because I don't attend Oase that much anymore and when I go I normally repeat girls I knew from before.[/QUOTE]My sample size is partially on the chunk where the upselling would likely to happen after the fact. I just went for girls that looked best to me, and got the treatment from half of them. I wasn't that careful because my visits in the past it was the same routine in picking girls, and didn't run into such issues. In the end, it's about what part of the pie you choose is my guess since there is big pie there. Then again, there are slices I'm not in for. LOL.
I guess if they notice the guy come out with different girls with long duration of sessions, they can figure out his typical session duration. The girl will be hopeful if she is picked by him and there would be higher likelihood of going with the flow, and good length session could be had. There are other ways to make good money too, the extras are quicker.
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[QUOTE=Arctic;1714991]For night shift, if I go, it's only for an hour or two. Is ANCA still there working in the evenings? The Anca I'm talking about is brunette, somewhere around 160 cm tall. [/QUOTE]There are two Ancas that I know of. Both are long term girls returned I believe. One is very tall 172 with long Auburn (reddish-brown) hair and maybe C cup subtle implants. The other is a blonde with implants. Both were seen in March and April, but I can't tell if either is the girl you refer to. Your description is rather vague.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1714861]He's accepting Christina's sub standard low performance and Lavinia's body. Syz is always talking about his high standards but keeps ignoring them.
If you want good service and good looks / body try Sabina.
HB.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Syzygies;1714927]Hardly ever happens to me. Maybe I am too well known. If any upsell, usually starts in the room. Oase has always been heavy on upsell compared to Sharks or World for several years. Best to avoid the upsell girls as far as possible. I get bored by girls that start talking about CIM all the time.[/QUOTE]At Oase, difficult to have quite good services with FK from a pretty girl: blond Sabina, Roxana, blond platinum Maria if you don t stay 1 h and 100€ , except with Ina. Lat before.
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I have seen none of the two Ancas in the past 2 or 3 months.
Upsell is existing from the beginning, maybe it is more common now as guys spend less and there's fewer visitors. And IMHO Upsell is worse at Mainhattan compared to Oase. That might be because I'm not a regular there.
HB.
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Upsell.
I have never been offered "upsell" by any girl at OASE other than Lucia. When she was sucking my dick once she looks up and says to me - "You know I also do anal. " I smiled and said, "that's nasty!" LOL. It wasn't offensive the way she made the offer and it didn't break the mood.
I don't know how valid my advice will be to many. I am an infrequent visitor to Oase, so when I do visit I CUT LOOSE. Meaning, I'm definitely more liberal with my money than someone who goes to the FKK's every weekend. But that's the way it has to be. I'm there for a day or two and I don't have time to mess around.
The one thing I ALWAYS tell a girl is this, "Hey I want you for at least an hour and maybe more depending on how good you make me feel. Let's play this all by ear and whatever happens I'll pay you for later. ". There are girls who have kept me for more than two hours in a session because they turned on the heavy "GFE" to keep me in there.
And I just haven't gotten any "upsell" after telling them that. If I'm fucking a girl and she says, "would you like to put it in my ass?" I don't consider that "upsell" because I have girlfriends who have said that to me.
I THINK, that most of the "upsell" comes because some girls want more than a 50 euro session. If they feel comfortable from the start that the session is going to net them more than 50 euro I think they throttle off the upsell in most cases.
So my recommendation is, if you are a guy who intends to spend more than 50 euro on a session then find subtle way to let the girl know that beforehand. Like I said, I just tell them, "I want you for at least an hour". Everything is relative. OLD hookers in my area of the USA charge $300 per hour. I go to OASE and there are all of these beautiful 20 year old Romanians and they are all charging (with the current exchange rate) about $100 per hour. And I just say to this, FUCK YEAH I will take that deal!
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1715178]I have seen none of the two Ancas in the past 2 or 3 months.
HB.[/QUOTE]Do you know the short brunette I'm talking about, HB? If she's not there, I will stick to the day shift probably. I don't like crowds.
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Also, one thing I did one time worked out kind of well as far as preventing "upsell".
I was resting by the jacuzzi and this Czech girl I had never seen comes up to me. I can't remember her name now. Anyway she starts rubbing my crotch and asked me if I wanted to go to a room with her. I told her, "Do you kiss? She says, "Of course".
So I tell her, "Well, I'm still resting and I'm not ready to go to a room, but we can start the clock now and you can lay with me right here and we can talk and kiss. ".
And she agreed to it. So we laid there for a good 30 minutes or so just necking by the jacuzzi. By the time we got a room, she had already earned 50 euro. She did not offer me any upsell in the room.
If she hadn't been great kissing while we were laying by the jacuzzi, I would have just paid her 50 euro at the end of thirty minutes and told her to go away. I don't mind losing 50 euro like that. I'd rather do that than find myself in a room with a dead fish and me trying to bust a nut as quickly as possible to get rid of her. At my age, I can handle about four girls on a good day with enough rest in between. I don't want to waste a nut on a dead fish.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1715015][QUOTE=Danny227;1714662]Not a great night in Oase last night. LU up was weaker than I am used to, but still it was ok with a few stunners.
Maybe I had a bad night, but girls were upselling before we went to the room. First session with Suzi, ro, brown hair almost dark blond, brown eyes. No DFK, excellent BBBJ, does a good job overall, but will not stop talking and trying to upsell (anal, CIM, extra for DATY and DFK. Everything is extra).
Second session with Shayen, I was tired and she was gentle and kind to me, blonde, ro, petite. Great job in the room, no upsell at all, good hand work with BBBJ, LFK, but good enough.
I left around 1 am. Girls were pushy and wanted to know how much I will pay before I even said . Food was bad last night and I'm tired of their pizza.[/QUOTE]
I know. It is strange. Oase has some pushy girls, but usually it ok. I decided yesterday to try new girls and the girl I took were good just Suzi was upselling, but she always does. I always take a minimum of one hour sessions. I like to take my time, so this is atypical of Oase for me. Bad nights happen.
Food was awful last night that veg chicken stew and dry veggies. Sorry. I spoke with some other guys who felt the same and we were actually laughing at the upselling cause we sat together a few times. The good news is that it is an isolated incident as I am pretty happy at Oase mostly.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you mean Suginella that Sirioja call Suzi? I think there has been a Suzi around too. From the description, it almost match Sugi. I thought she had green or blue eyes. Looker, yes, but service is pretty bad.