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Taming the Wild Beast
And the "Most Improved Award for Oase 2017" goes to Amanda. Ro (18 years old, dark hair, extremely slim, almost anorexic).
I previously reported how terrible she was in the room on a previous trip and advised everyone to save your money and stay away from this one (not that this matters since so few customers actually read or remember anything from ISG).
So, I knew better -- I knew to stay away from her this month. Still, her body type was too much of a temptation for me and I couldn't resist taking her for a spin again. I thought to myself, well maybe she has improved in the past 3 months? But, given my last experience with her, I was sure I would be disappointed.
She pleasantly proved me wrong however. True, she is still learning (and still has a lot to learn) but I am happy to report that now, she is eager to please, takes direction quite well, and makes a genuine effort to be sweet. Sure, she doesn't rise to the level of my favorites in the service department, but she is learning and every room I have with her is an improvement over the previous one.
So, I am now retracting my previous warning about Amanda to stay away from her. Yes, YMMV as I'm not sure how she behaves with everyone else, but I can say now that she has potential. Her non-Romanian communication skills are still quite basic but you can still communicate with her with some creativity (and there is always Google translate as a last resort, which I try to avoid). Anyways, she is slowly picking up more and more English every day. She seems interested in wanting to deliver good service and learning her trade.
I hope she sticks around for a long time and I look forward to spending more time with her during her Oase journey.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2009017]And the "Most Improved Award for Oase 2017" goes to Amanda. Ro (18 years old, dark hair, extremely slim, almost anorexic).
[/QUOTE]She must have realized by now that you are a returning tourist and prolly stay more than the min 30 min if you are ultrahappy, LOL.
Still don't like the idea of staying 1 HR to get DFK. Can't rmb clearly but I think one of the girl I talked to last time wanted 100 e for a 30 min session I. E. 50 e extra for kissing. Most importantly is that sometimes I do like the standard 30 min with everything included, LOL.
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Or see you paying for time in and outside the room for hrs! YMMV?
HS, great detailed reporting. Respect.
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Did Amanda kiss and give a decent BJ? I still like her body but kept away from her after my session with her months ago which was a desaster.
HB.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2009012]If you are a familiar face and you visit a lot, you will generally receive good treatment from almost all the girls. I even do the occasional half hour rooms here and there, granted not so often, but I do take half hour rooms here and there. If I know I'm only doing a half hour (for example, due to timing constraints / logistics) and if I'm going with a girl already known to me, I almost always disclose this to my girl upfront to manage expectations. Some of my Oase girls still give me DFK in the half hour rooms, not all, but many still do.
It should be remembered that there is a lot of competition there and you can always go to another girl if one girl isn't agreeing to give you what you want. The girls know this and if you are hesitant about going to the room or walk away from an initial chat, many of them will likely be more accommodating the next time you approach them.
If you are visiting on a week day when business is slower, you should just walk away and say no to silly offers like 150 Euros for an hour. That's just ridiculous. No Oase girl has ever propositioned me for 150 Euros for an hour (this is actually against the rules there, unless the extra 50 is coupled with a service that is not included in the standard service -- an easy rule to circumvent with a bit of creativity to be sure, but it is actually technically against the Oase rules for a girl to proposition you for 150 Euros for an hour room that includes only standard service)..[/QUOTE]Sorry but what you describe is not the reality in a FKK club, the girls are mostly divided in groups (ethnicity, countries, cities etc.) and obviously they are not sharing.
Info between groups. In each clubs you have some "leaders" who are respected. Also the girls are really respecting the fact that some girls have regulars and they will not try to take those customers.
Concerning the usage of the phone, it is just to respect the privacy of the customers imagine how some pictures could be used to pressurize some German man. In World for example I don t recommend you to use the phone they will be very aggressive with you.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2009012]The staff at Oase are much more polite and they realize when someone is using their phone legitimately versus inappropriately, instead of treating their customers like children.[/QUOTE]That isn't my experience. For excample the phone rule. You think you can use it everywhere bc all do it. But recently a club buddy of me was useing his phone in main lounge checking at a German forum some reports about an Oase girl when a girl suddenly came next to him so he put his phone away and didn't show her what he was looking for. This stupid chick insisted he was making pictures or filming. Only ridiculous they think that would be interesting, only LOL Nevertheless this chick called security and they checked his phone. Sorry no security checks my phone and in some clubs that wouldn't happen especially this guy WAS an Oase regular! BTW the security explained him that phones aren't allowed yep therefore everyone use it at Oase. LOL Ofc they found no pictures / films from Oase on his phone. But for me an impudence from Oase staff. I don't meet this guy anymore at Oase bc he don't go anymore to Oase. I would do the same when a thing like that happens to me.
Oase staff behavior improved last years but in my Frankfurt big5 ranking for this still on last position.
Also DFK as a non regular difficult to get at Oase at a 50 euro standard session, even for a nice standard 60 minutes session more and more girls want 150 euro, but this is similar to all Frankfurt big5 clubs only World is slightly better at this. But this 50 euro standard session discussion is now useless, let's see what happens in July.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;2009041]That isn't my experience. For excample the phone rule. You think you can use it everywhere bc all do it. But recently a club buddy of me was useing his phone in main lounge checking at a German forum some reports about an Oase girl when a girl suddenly came next to him so he put his phone away and didn't show her what he was looking for. This stupid chick insisted he was making pictures or filming. Only ridiculous they think that would be interesting, only LOL Nevertheless this chick called security and they checked his phone. Sorry no security checks my phone and in some clubs that wouldn't happen especially this guy WAS an Oase regular! BTW the security explained him that phones aren't allowed yep therefore everyone use it at Oase. LOL Ofc they found no pictures / films from Oase on his phone. But for me an impudence from Oase staff. I don't meet this guy anymore at Oase bc he don't go anymore to Oase. I would do the same when a thing like that happens to me.
Oase staff behavior improved last years but in my Frankfurt big5 ranking for this still on last position.
Also DFK as a non regular difficult to get at Oase at a 50 euro standard session, even for a nice standard 60 minutes session more and more girls want 150 euro, but this is similar to all Frankfurt big5 clubs only World is slightly better at this. But this 50 euro standard session discussion is now useless, let's see what happens in July.[/QUOTE]How many years are we paying 50 euros? In which country the sex is cheaper than in Germany. Some guys want everything for 50 euros, let us be serious if you are clean, friendly, not too overweight for 150 euros you can for sure get a very nice experience. I know some of you will overreact like always but just go to Dubai, Paris, London, Geneve etc. And you will see what you will get for 150 euros.
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I once had the manager of Oase politely ask me to hold my phone at a different angle while I was sitting at a high table next to the jacuzzi. A customer had complained, he thought I was taking pictures of him. Well, I wasn't. The guy was fat, old and ugly, would have had to get an extra wide-angle lense for that.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009061]I once had the manager of Oase politely ask me to hold my phone at a different angle while I was sitting at a high table next to the jacuzzi. A customer had complained, he thought I was taking pictures of him. Well, I wasn't. The guy was fat, old and ugly, would have had to get an extra wide-angle lense for that.
HB.[/QUOTE]You are too clever to know that the problem is not this, some guys are well known (politicians, business, sport, medias.) and they are really afraid to get pressurized.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2009054]I know some of you will overreact like always but just go to Dubai, Paris, London, Geneve etc. And you will see what you will get for 150 euros.[/QUOTE]You finally said something I can agree with! I would say add New York and Tokyo too. Go there and see what you get for 150 euros. Hell, see what you get for 250 euros!
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2009061]I once had the manager of Oase politely ask me to hold my phone at a different angle while I was sitting at a high table next to the jacuzzi. A customer had complained, he thought I was taking pictures of him. Well, I wasn't. The guy was fat, old and ugly, would have had to get an extra wide-angle lense for that.
HB.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I never tried using my phone outside the relax area, and never really saw anyone using theirs in public areas either. Seems like it's not a problem unless someone makes it a problem? I know the rules are there to protect everyone, but on a 12+ hour visit, I need to detach from FKK overload for a few minutes.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2008849]She moved to golden time last I heard of her.[/QUOTE]Oh, OK. Thanks for the heads up. GT looks fun, but I only have two days, a week apart from each other. Not sure I can justify driving from Frankfurt and back in one long day to catch a flight the following day. Seems like 5 hours wasted driving when I could be playing.
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Hungry,
Thanks for the report. Yes, the "get everything for 50 E" has gotten far worse now than five years ago. There are numerous reports about this and shouldn't be any surprise. It's not an issue exclusively for Oase I am afraid. You can experience this at all the Hessen clubs, and you seem to have even experienced a bit of it at GT too.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2009012]If you are a familiar face and you visit a lot, you will generally receive good treatment from almost all the girls. I even do the occasional half hour rooms here and there, granted not so often, but I do take half hour rooms here and there.Some of my Oase girls still give me DFK in the half hour rooms, not all, but many still do.[/QUOTE]My experience is similar. In my six sessions last weekend I had zero upselling and had couch time (fondling and kissing) in 5 out of 6 sessions (all 5 sessions at Oase and 0 at World). Of course, 4 sessions were with regulars, so I guess that is "cheating". The two sessions with new girls (1 at Oase and 1 at World) both included BBBJ / a combo of LFK and DFK / DATY / MPOS CFS in 50 E sessions. That was partly pure luck of course, but as this is rather the norm for me than the exception I do believe the selection process is part of it too. I am definitively not saying I can achieve this with all girls or even most girls. But optically the girls I go with are all in the Top 20 pct in my book.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2009012]It should be remembered that there is a lot of competition there and you can always go to another girl if one girl isn't agreeing to give you what you want. The girls know this and if you are hesitant about going to the room or walk away from an initial chat, many of them will likely be more accommodating the next time you approach them.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. How many times do you not hear "kissing is extra" and then two hours later they will be coming back with "you look nice I will kiss you no problem"? Be patient.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;2009021]She must have realized by now that you are a returning tourist and prolly stay more than the min 30 min if you are ultrahappy, LOL.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2009022]Or see you paying for time in and outside the room for hrs! YMMV?[/QUOTE]This, exactly. Barriers seem to come down when they figure out (one way or the other) that you're open to longer sessions or paying for time if everyone is having fun. The ones watching notice too.
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If someone is using the phone inside the club, and the security folks ask to see the phone to verify that person didn't take photos or video, I think that is a reasonable request. As long as security makes that request politely. I can see why the person in question would get offended, but it is also easy to see why others might get paranoid that he may have taken some photos. And if by chance someone does take a photo, nothing can be worse. The rule says "no phones inside the club" but management is being lax and allowing phone use in some select areas, but when it comes to balancing the right of the person to use phone in some places versus the rights of everyone to not be filmed or photographed, I think the latter right outweighs the former.
But the key is politeness. I remember someone wrote here a few months ago that Oase security savagely beat up some guest. I don't know why, and what led them to such a thing. I can't see imagine many or any scenarios which warrant the security people to savagely manhandle guests in that manner.