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[QUOTE=Rezo666;1616985]To get a better service and omit the upsell. Taking the 1 hr option seems like the best bet, but what the hell do you do in that full 1 hour?
Does the 1 hour service imply that multiple pops are included?
I know for many of us here the 30 min sometimes may seem too long.
Any comments from regulars as it specifically relates to Oase?[/QUOTE]Hmmm. What to do in a room with a sexy, young, naked, willing girl? Yes, I can see how that would be puzzling. I have no idea what I would do confronted with a similar situation.
In any case, I noticed answers to your question recently posted here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area&p=1604703&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1604703.
And here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3309-German-FKK-Clubs-Lounge-and-chat-area&p=1604861&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1604861.
I don't see anything specific to Oase in your questions as the answers would generally be the same regardless of FKK. You are only limited by your imagination and the girl's willingness to participate in whatever weird things your imagination comes up with.
Maybe you could bring some playing cards? Oase does have a nice Foozball table (or Baby Foot as some refer to it). I regret that I'm at a loss as to what to advise you regarding possible activities with sexy, young, naked girls.
Maybe you could watch the sunset while you read poetry to one another? Just an idea.
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OASE Friday Sept 5
Paid a visit to Oase today (Friday). I arrived at 6 pm and left at 11:30 pm. I'm not good with estimating numbers, but looked about to be between 30 - 40 ish girls throughout the night. It wasn't too overcrowded with men.
First up was Laura. From the description in this thread and in the Sharks thread, it appears that I met Livia who now calls herself Laura. She said she use to work at Sharks. Blond girl, petite thin body. Says she's half Czech / half Italian. I overheard her speaking Italian. But I recall reading that she is Ro? Anyway, took her for a spin. Mediocre session. She's had mixed review. Looks like I got the short end of the stick. She was clearly trying to extract a minimum of 100 Euro from me with different menu options. She started by saying for 500 Euros, we could have a good time. It seemed like she was half joking, but half throwing it out there to see if there was a bite.
I laughed and said let's start with 50 E for 1/2 hour and see where it goes. Then the menu comes out: option 1 - BBBJ, kissing, banging, licking for 1/2 hour at 100 E; option 2 - all of the same services for 1 hour at 200 E. At this point, I knew that the session wouldn't be up to my expectations, but she did look good so I made up my mind that it was an optifuck session.
We settled on 1/2 hour at 50 E. She was clearly not impressed. LOL. Started with BBBJ. It was an excellent BBBJ. I could tell that she really tried here so as to get me to finish early. I withheld her BBBJ powers for about 5 minutes and moved on to sex. Cowgirl, mish and doggie were all very tight. After the first 5 minutes of sex, she asked me to come. That's a turn off, so I continued for another 5 minutes. At the 10 minute mark of sex, she said in a dry way, "okay baby, you have to come", then started shutting her legs so penetration was limited. I eventually came. It wasn't a GFE session. She wanted to get the most money out the session that she could. I held her to 50 E and told her directly that if she had acted more GFE, I would have likely stayed 1 hour and she would have made more money. She was not pleased, but knew that my comments were fair. For about 25 minutes in the room, she earned 50 E. Wham, Bam, Thank you M'am.
Next up was Sonia from Ro. About 168 cm, thin, small perky tits, cute face, 23 yrs old, shoulder length straight black hair. Has been at Oase for one month, previously in Munich and spent a bit of time at Palace. Says she's studying medicine back home. She's leaving this coming Monday for Ro. I didn't ask her when she would be back. She has a very engaging smile and spent a good amount of time on the couch with no pressure. Once we got to the room, things happened naturally and I spent 1 hour in the room with BBBJ, kissing, sex and digits. I didn't go for daty as that's not my style. The sex was very passionate and she would hold me close to her during certain times. Very GFE session. Now that's the type of session I look for and don't mind paying for more than the minimum 50 E for 1/2 hour. I paid 100 E for 1 GFE hour.
As I just arrived in FRA today, I was tired so stopped at just 2 girls today.
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[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;1617280]Paid a visit to Oase today (Friday). I arrived at 6 pm and left at 11:30 pm. I'm not good with estimating numbers, but looked about to be between 30 - 40 ish girls throughout the night. It wasn't too overcrowded with men.
First up was Laura. From the description in this thread and in the Sharks thread, it appears that I met Livia who now calls herself Laura. She said she use to work at Sharks. Blond girl, petite thin body. Says she's half Czech / half Italian. I overheard her speaking Italian. But I recall reading that she is Ro? Anyway, took her for a spin. Mediocre session. She's had mixed review. Looks like I got the short end of the stick. She was clearly trying to extract a minimum of 100 Euro from me with different menu options.
Cowgirl, mish and doggie were all very tight.[/QUOTE]Actually, she started off as Laura last year at Oase last year, but called herself Livia when she moved to Sharks. I had exactly the same experience as you last year. She felt tight because she tried to stop my dick from going fully in.
After that first occasion, I turned down her approaches many times in Oase and Sharks last year. (Her sister, Juicy, provided better service.) But looking at her in the bright sunshine yesterday morning, I wondered why I even found her an optifuck last year. Her face was too small, she scowled often when not trying to attract a customer, and her body was really skinny and pale.
She approached me again yesterday, and even asked for a present as she claimed it was her birthday!
I would agree with your estimate of numbers. There were about only 40 girls and not many men. Most of the other girls were on vacation. One girl told me that there was a sign in the girls' locker room asking all to be present for Automechanika in 2 weeks time.
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[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;1617280]Paid a visit to Oase today (Friday). I arrived at 6 pm and left at 11:30 pm. I'm not good with estimating numbers, but looked about to be between 30 - 40 ish girls throughout the night. It wasn't too overcrowded with men.
I laughed and said let's start with 50 E for 1/2 hour and see where it goes. Then the menu comes out: option 1 - BBBJ, kissing, banging, licking for 1/2 hour at 100 E; option 2 - all of the same services for 1 hour at 200 E. At this point, I knew that the session wouldn't be up to my expectations, but she did look good so I made up my mind that it was an optifuck session.
Next up was Sonia from Ro. [/QUOTE]I would be surprised if the number of girls was that low, however its possible. Normally there are more than what anyone would guess. Always some hidden in the rooms and change area. Others have reported lower numbers than what I saw on the same day.
You might want to pretend to be a regular FKK goer even if that is not true, like saying you normally attend Mainhatten regularly. Then say, like I do, that you normally go for 1 hour unless the session is not very good. It's still not a promise to go 1 hour. This seems to eliminate most of the rushed type sessions for me, and usually get okay to good kissing (not always). Just my ideas. Unfortunately it does not eliminate dick scared girls where legs seem to seize up. I do know how difficult it is to fuck when girls have stiff legs. However its a very long time since I experienced a girl asking me to cum after 5 minutes of sex (10 minutes all up). I usually use up some time with DATY however. Some of these girls can perform when they want to, but are unreliable.
Sonia is getting consistent good reports. Good to know. I can mark her down as a good reliable prospect. Certainly one of the nice looking girls too.
Syz.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1617199] First Maria (skinny one, not the other curvy Maria who prowls as a pair with Bianca), then Antonia.[/QUOTE]This is skinny brunette Maria with almost no tits but reasonably pretty face and ass nice enough? I had been thinking of trying her. She seems like a nice non pushy type of girl. It figures, I could well have seen her at World before. Certainly the face was familiar.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1617328]This is skinny brunette Maria with almost no tits but reasonably pretty face and ass nice enough? I had been thinking of trying her. She seems like a nice non pushy type of girl. It figures, I could well have seen her at World before. Certainly the face was familiar.[/QUOTE]Yes. I find her face very pretty and her ass is really nice to grip. She is not pushy at all and speaks reasonable English, so I normally spend quite some time with her. She is quite passive though, but knows how to keep me happy with GFE - one of the very few girls who initiate long loving kisses without any prompting. She used to sit with Oana, who was disappointingly on vacation as I was hoping to catch her when I went to World on Thursday.
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[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;1617280]Paid a visit to Oase today (Friday). I arrived at 6 pm and left at 11:30 pm. I'm not good with estimating numbers, but looked about to be between 30 - 40 ish girls throughout the night. It wasn't too overcrowded with men.[/QUOTE]Not so many men at the time. I do not know why.
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Hello.
To the regulars at Oase, Syz, HB and Ultrahappy. I'm here now, 4. 40 pm Saturday quiet but lovely weather so outside. Nothing like a lot of naked lovelies around a pool. Would be great to say Hi and share tales with you guys if you are here.
Did the Mainhattan / Palace / Sharks trip before today this week and will post a full report in due course.
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[quote=mcadonis;1615095]agree 100%, but recently i've gotten five upsell attempts. and around the 15 minute mark the girls attitude sours completely. they get a princess-like attitude and react as if there is something wrong with me for not having cum yet. but if the epidemic continues, we could be getting 2-3 bad sessions in a row. i agree that 50 eur is not a lot. 50 eur is like a speeding ticket. it's no big deal and i probably wouldn't notice. but it is the disrespectful attitude that some of these girls exhibit. why do these girls act like they are too good for 50 eur, when this is the market rate?
we all know about czech linda working in switzerland charging 400-500 eur an hour (actually saw her once at this rate).[/quote]you are not wrong. this is the concern. the more and more the girls know that they can get away with giving lower service for the same amount of money, it then becomes a question of to get the same level of service that one experienced before that you had to pay for it. for example, ball licking and rimming may with some girls be part of the standard service that they provide and now the girl is asking for 50 euro more the service.
as you say, where the occasional visitor who does not know the line up well, may have 1 bad session during a visit, we are getting to closer to the point where they are getting 2 to 3 bad sessions in a visit or at least getting the 15 minute service where anything past 15 minutes is a sour experience.
the discussion had with other regulars was maybe if the half hour rate was increased to say 60 euro then maybe, and it is a maybe, the girls will tolerate doing more service or the service that they felt was not worth them providing for 50 euro. you hear the girls many times complaining about how much that they need to do for 50 euro to satisfy the men. the counter argument to this is that we create a spiral of upwardly increasing costs as the girls realise by withholding demanded services that guys will pay more for them since they want them. however, without the nrw style of pricing at 25 euro we are at the point that any extras are 50 euros which doubles the going rate making it so much more expensive for what you are used to getting.
as you can see, some girls like czech linda have done well to be charging 400-500 euro for an hour. well done to those men that can pay those prices.
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[QUOTE=Dufey;1617826]You are not wrong. This is the concern. The more and more the girls know that they can get away with giving lower service for the same amount of money, it then becomes a question of to get the same level of service that one experienced before that you had to pay for it. For example, ball licking and rimming may with some girls be part of the standard service that they provide and now the girl is asking for 50 euro more the service.
As you say, where the occasional visitor who does not know the line up well, may have 1 bad session during a visit, we are getting to closer to the point where they are getting 2 to 3 bad sessions in a visit or at least getting the 15 minute service where anything past 15 minutes is a sour experience.
The discussion had with other regulars was maybe if the half hour rate was increased to say 60 euro then the service then the girls will tolerate doing more service. The counter argument to this is that we create a spiral of upwardly increasing costs as the girls realise by withholding demanded services that guys will pay more for them since they want them. However, without the NRW style of pricing at 25 euro we are at the point that any extras are 50 euros which doubles the going rate making it so much more expensive for what you are used to getting.
As you can see, some girls like Czech Linda have done well to be charging 400-500 euro for an hour. Well done to those men that can pay those prices.[/QUOTE]I hope us punters remain smart and not think with the lower part of our bodies. The counter argument to increase the rate to 60 Euros, is to keep the rates the same with the same GFE service expectations. If the girls don't get as much business, they will move on and new girls will come in.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1615703]Sina is a german girl around 22 years looking. Nice girl with very good service. She is been working for around three month at Oase, before that she worked almost two years at small club Bahama in Maintal close Frankfurt. Again Sina also a recommended girl but both optics and service level good but behind top class girl Cassandra.
Or is there maybe a other german Sina at Oase?[/QUOTE]I think the Sina I know is much older than 22 years. She does have a mature look to me rather than a youthful look. Maybe late twenties or even early thirties. She has some tattoos and wears some see through lingerie even on the non dress days that covers her behind and her maybe be cup breasts. The timeline of her working at Oase, coincides with the Sina that I know. I did not ask if Sina worked at club Bahama.
She seems to be doing okay for business. Not so busy early in the day as she starts in the midday but when more men come in she is picked up probably because of how she approaches men in a relaxed and mature way, giving some nice time on the couch before a room is suggested and that she is German.
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[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;1617827]I hope us punters remain smart and not think with the lower part of our bodies. The counter argument to increase the rate to 60 Euros, is to keep the rates the same with the same GFE service expectations. If the girls don't get as much business, they will move on and new girls will come in.[/QUOTE]For those people who work on salaries, would you be happy not getting a pay rise each year to at least combat an increment due to inflation?
At the food market, do you refuse to buy bread because the price has gone up thinking that unless the food market changes the price back to what it was before then I will not buy bread. Okay, you may go to a cheaper food market but then that is possible too like for FKKs where men go to the flat rate clubs, partytreffs and the lower priced clubs where you pay 30 euro for half hour.
Do you think illogical women think the same way?
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[QUOTE=Rezo666;1616985] Does the 1 hour service imply that multiple pops are included?[/QUOTE]Check with your girl first. Generally, since it is one pop per half hour then if you double the time then you can have two pops. But as said, do check with your girl first.
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[QUOTE=Dufey;1617839]For those people who work on salaries, would you be happy not getting a pay rise each year to at least combat an increment due to inflation?
At the food market, do you refuse to buy bread because the price has gone up thinking that unless the food market changes the price back to what it was before then I will not buy bread. Okay, you may go to a cheaper food market but then that is possible too like for FKKs where men go to the flat rate clubs, partytreffs and the lower priced clubs where you pay 30 euro for half hour.
Do you think illogical women think the same way?[/QUOTE]Comparing the sex trade where there is a high turnover rate to a salaried job or buying groceries doesn't make sense to me. I don't get your analogy. Unless I misread you, you think that increasing the rate a bit will contribute to better service. I think that increasing the rate to get standard expected services promotes bad behavior on behalf of the girls. Let's agree to disagree dude.
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Sina is 22. Maybe she is looking older, tough life or not looking after her body too well or too many cigarettes. She has been working at Bahama before. She was quite busy at my last visit to Mauro's temple of working girls. She teamed up with Irish / German Johanna and had one or two threesomes with her.
HB.