-
Oase
Well after reading all these posts about Oase and how it has changed, I am rather surprised because these so called changes, have been going on since the mid 2015 and they are really nothing new. When I first went to Oase in 2008, the club was populated by the kinds of Steffi, Verona, Olivia etc. Great girls and great pros who really gave great and fantastic service, starting around 2013 and the prevalence of Romanian gals, the whole picture changed and the service level just started to fizzle as these new breed of girls, were so money hungry and so money driven that they just kind of ganged up against the customers and started to upsell like there is no tomorrow. First The Palace fell victim to the shark mentality imported by these girls and slowly but surely Oase followed and today it is really not much better than the former. Sure there were also great Romi girls like Fiddan and Alicia to name a few but even they quiet and what we have today is a bunch of gold diggers who care more about stealing than giving adequate service and in that particular case, Mauro and the Oase management are totally at fault since by constantly fooling the customers and letting these girls get away with their behaviors they have labeled their club as a refuge for money thirsty sharky providers and a tourist trap.
Of course these phenomenon is also widely prominent in other FKKs and until it is not properly addressed do not expect anything even reminiscent of the mid to late 2000's. On my last visit, one of the girls told me that all of the girls were leaving Oase at such high rate, that at one point the club was left with less than 50 girls, therefor the management had no choice but to change the rules and give the girls more leverage. So I guess this is your explanation as far as the ineptitude of the front desk is concerned in dealing with customers complaints, to me it looks like a blackmail situation whereas the girls have now the upper hand in controlling the club's faith and future.
This is just my point of view and believe me I was one of Oase 's biggest fans but sadly I have to admit that most of the negative comments posted lately about the club are far from being fallacious and in some cases, are right on the spot.
-
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1969716]Is Shark better or Oase we can debate a long time for me for sure Oase is better, repeat again Shark is very dark inside. But please don t compare Mainhattan and Oase, I am a regular for both but the LU of Mainhattan is a lot smaller than Oase the club is also smaller. I go to Mainhattan more for a quickly.[/QUOTE]For some of us, it is not a question of which club is better at all. I do not care about the clubs that much unless a club becomes hard to tolerate, like rooms to hot to be usable as an example.
Some of us mainly do repeats of girls, and it is about the specific girls that are our favourites, and also about the ability to find a new girl to try that is pretty enough and does not give us a bad vibe.
Only the top few girls in the club to my taste matter to me. A very small number of girls will be sessioned and the rest don't matter that much.
Naturally the food improvement is welcomed but I put up with poor food for years.
A few good girls certainly exist at Oase. Quite a few, my buddies say, are very good that I have not tried yet as well.
I can understand that newbies here and 50 euro customers can find the good girls with difficulty.
Some girls I tried in the past did not suit me yet they may well suit others. I even see that some are popular. I don't even really know for sure who are the really bad girls for scamming, barring a few rumours.
The worst girls I tried myself are generally not there any more.
My favorite girls always seemed to be trying to give the best service. If they are pretty as well, that is all I can ask. Still being sent to heaven by the right girls. I have no clue if they are at all good in in a 50 Euro session. YMMV is absolutely certain. Sercice is not uniform by girl or by customer.
My Sharks problem is purely a lack of enough favourites, and wondering which girls I really want to try.
Having sure thing favourites in a club makes all the difference to me.
Upsell has been around at Oase for many years however it now seems that all the new girls are getting indocrinated with the message that 50 is for fuck and suck only.
-
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1969946]For some of us, it is not a question of which club is better at all. I do not care about the clubs that much unless a club becomes hard to tolerate, like rooms to hot to be usable as an example.
Some of us mainly do repeats of girls, and it is about the specific girls that are our favourites, and also about the ability to find a new girl to try that is pretty enough and does not give us a bad vibe.
Only the top few girls in the club to my taste matter to me. A very small number of girls will be sessioned and the rest don't matter that much.
Naturally the food improvement is welcomed but I put up with poor food for years.
A few good girls certainly exist at Oase. Quite a few, my buddies say, are very good that I have not tried yet as well..[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you, in the clubs as a long time monger I have obviously sessioned many girls and each time I enter the club the girls come to me to be sure I will choose her some are even waiting for me outside the sauna to be sure I will go with them. They don t do because they love me just because I always respect them, be nice with them and never give 50 euros but I am always getting great service. I am no more so young what matters for me is not only the beauty is also how we feel together, have good time enjoy the life without stress.
-
I agree, I don t care about clubs, even I really enjoyed Oase breakfast with strawberries, pancakes and fruit juices. I look for beautiful GF anywhere, I mean only in club, for Nobel award guys, not to marry, but to repeat weekly. That was my problem with Ina. Lat, why I didn't go so often to her, because she worked for about 3 1 month tour per year, with long time off, so couldn't get her for very regular, but I was very happy she has another life in Latvia.
-
Oase Trip Report
Was recently in Oase this week. Talk of improved amenities, food and line up had me curious.
Went, scoped around, ate and left. No session. No stand out girls to fuck on this visit. Unfortunate. Probably worse line up of the four majors I visited this week in Hessen.
Worse thing about this visit was being pestered by a blonde average looking GND type looking for a five Euro tip. Total stranger who kept on grabbing me. Almost took her to the reception for hassling me.
Howie.
-
[QUOTE=SnakePlissken;1969867]When I first went to Oase in 2008, the club was populated by the kinds of Steffi, Verona, Olivia etc.[/QUOTE]No, it wasn't. Those girls were pretty unique at the time. In fact, only of handful of girls could meet their standards. There were plenty of terrible providers, too. In 2008. In 2004, too. Making the right choices has always been a big part of the game at the Hessen clubs. You seem to have a very selective memory.
BTW, a couple of the girls you are mentioning are still around today occasionally. Yes, still there!! Which makes your statement even more hilarious. Great girls, but there are better girls around. Sometimes you just got to stop dreaming and move on.
What we can agree on is that 50 E won't give you the same experience today as back then (though a 60 mnt session still will IME). Also, I too would like to have seen a front desk that takes complaints about girls more seriously. Gaby is terribly missed.
But let's try and keep things real here, shall we?
-
[QUOTE=Howie;1970011]Was recently in Oase this week. Talk of improved amenities, food and line up had me curious.
Went, scoped around, ate and left. No session. No stand out girls to fuck on this visit. Unfortunate. Probably worse line up of the four majors I visited this week in Hessen.
Worse thing about this visit was being pestered by a blonde average looking GND type looking for a five Euro tip. Total stranger who kept on grabbing me. Almost took her to the reception for hassling me.
Howie.[/QUOTE]I am quite surprised by you report but everything can happen, I always go there for 10 AM to meet the day shift girls, could you tell us which day and when you visited Oasse?
-
[QUOTE=Shark16;1970063]No, it wasn't. Those girls were pretty unique at the time. In fact, only of handful of girls could meet their standards. There were plenty of terrible providers, too. In 2008. In 2004, too. Making the right choices has always been a big part of the game at the Hessen clubs. You seem to have a very selective memory.
BTW, a couple of the girls you are mentioning are still around today occasionally. Yes, still there!! Which makes your statement even more hilarious. Great girls, but there are better girls around. Sometimes you just got to stop dreaming and move on.
What we can agree on is that 50 E won't give you the same experience today as back then (though a 60 mnt session still will IME). Also, I too would like to have seen a front desk that takes complaints about girls more seriously. Gaby is terribly missed.
But let's try and keep things real here, shall we?[/QUOTE]No contrary to you I have only been going to Oase since 2008 and yes I do have a very selective memory since the names I mentioned, gave the best service out there and it is only natural that I vividly remember them. Why am I dreaming? I just stated the facts! IF you can't understand it then so be it.
And yes the only one remaining is Verona. Also I have no problem with moving on if you carefully read my post as I only stated my opinion regardless of what you or anyone else may think.
Ed.
-
[QUOTE=Shark16;1970063]No, it wasn't. Those girls were pretty unique at the time. In fact, only of handful of girls could meet their standards. There were plenty of terrible providers, too. In 2008. In 2004, too. Making the right choices has always been a big part of the game at the Hessen clubs. You seem to have a very selective memory.
BTW, a couple of the girls you are mentioning are still around today occasionally. Yes, still there!! Which makes your statement even more hilarious. Great girls, but there are better girls around. Sometimes you just got to stop dreaming and move on.
What we can agree on is that 50 E won't give you the same experience today as back then (though a 60 mnt session still will IME). Also, I too would like to have seen a front desk that takes complaints about girls more seriously. Gaby is terribly missed.
But let's try and keep things real here, shall we?[/QUOTE]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, however, I would accept that the looks of girls at Oase prior to 2008 was about the same as now. However, I cannot recall ever getting poor service or upsell prior to 2008. There were some SPs who gave exceptional service as I imagine there are today but service was generally much better then. I would say Sharks today is probably like Oase was in 2012 service wise. Who knows what Sharks would be like in four years?
-
[QUOTE=Turgid;1970133]There were some SPs who gave exceptional service as I imagine there are today but service was generally much better then.[/QUOTE]Not in a 60 mnt session. I would say it is just about the same. Shit happens occasionally (both now and back then), but the vast majority of girls provide great service (regulars as non-regulars). At least that is my experience. For a 50 E session I am not the best to give trustworthy advice as I rarely do that, but reports of bad experiences in a 50 E session are numerous and has been increasing in the last few years.
Be aware I would rather decline a session if any upselling occurs prior to entering the room. I want the Huren-Stasi to know they won't get my business with that attitude. I think too many gents give in to the girls upselling tactics, and once you have yielded to that once, the girl (and all her friends) will quickly know that you are a softie and the upselling never ends (in that club).
Sometimes (not that often) I make the wrong pick and the upselling immediately starts once we are entering the room. I then make it quickly clear that I am not willing to give in to any upselling, but if the session is good I may extend to 1 hr, but that I also may stop at the half hour mark. All in a firm and polite way of course. I do believe the girls appreciate honesty. Some of the upseller girls then give excellent service and I extend. Other girls give limited service (like no kissing), but can give a gent a good time with only BJ and CFS. Of course, only 50E and no repeat for me. Then there is a small number of girls who refuses to give any good service at all. A total waste of time. Approx. 5-10% of my sessions with non-regular girls at Oase can be like that (regular girls never fail me). So, it's not a big deal for me.
-
Thanks for providing some semblance of sense around here. A guy or a few have a couple of bad sessions, extrapolate it, and suddenly it is the club is horrible. Or vice versa, a couple of people didn't have sex for a week, get a nice blow job from a cutie or two, and the club is so great again. These reports are making not a whole lot of sense. From my vantage, I have been going to these clubs every two to three months for approximately four years now, and I don't see huge swings. Sometimes I get lucky and find better girls and sometimes I don't, but it is not as if one day the pool is full of piranha and the next day is a koi pond. And most importantly, it is hilarious to hear complaints that there are too many girls and clubs and even more RLd girls and escorts outside. Oh my god, what a horror, perhaps all these poor chaps would like to come to the US or some other place where these activities are illegal.
[QUOTE=Shark16;1970063]No, it wasn't. Those girls were pretty unique at the time. In fact, only of handful of girls could meet their standards. There were plenty of terrible providers, too. In 2008. In 2004, too. Making the right choices has always been a big part of the game at the Hessen clubs. You seem to have a very selective memory.
BTW, a couple of the girls you are mentioning are still around today occasionally. Yes, still there!! Which makes your statement even more hilarious. Great girls, but there are better girls around. Sometimes you just got to stop dreaming and move on.
What we can agree on is that 50 E won't give you the same experience today as back then (though a 60 mnt session still will IME). Also, I too would like to have seen a front desk that takes complaints about girls more seriously. Gaby is terribly missed.
But let's try and keep things real here, shall we?[/QUOTE]
-
[QUOTE=Shark16;1970063]No, it wasn't. Those girls were pretty unique at the time. In fact, only of handful of girls could meet their standards. There were plenty of terrible providers, too. In 2008. In 2004, too. Making the right choices has always been a big part of the game at the Hessen clubs. You seem to have a very selective memory.
BTW, a couple of the girls you are mentioning are still around today occasionally. Yes, still there!! Which makes your statement even more hilarious. Great girls, but there are better girls around. Sometimes you just got to stop dreaming and move on.
What we can agree on is that 50 E won't give you the same experience today as back then (though a 60 mnt session still will IME). Also, I too would like to have seen a front desk that takes complaints about girls more seriously. Gaby is terribly missed.
But let's try and keep things real here, shall we?[/QUOTE]Oase average service level today same as 2004 or 2008 ?
With all respect...come on!
I was around back then like you, and please let's not make comparisons because it would really result embarassing.
And that is for 50 or 100 or 1000 e sessions.
For 100 e today you are getting from the Oase girls as good a service and attitude as you (and I) were used to back then? Good for you, but it's not my experience, since a few years.
Strangely enough, when some girl with "old Oase school" attitude and service shows up today, like latvian Ina, she is taken all day long with a long line of customers. Only that today there is 1 or 2 like her, back then there used to be maybe 15-20 on the same day, plus odd part timers that are nowadays compleately disappeared. Don't let me do lists, please.
Of course when I read that some here (experienced mongers) can rate Laura / Livia's service as good, it really shows once again that there is not one truth.
Move on? We all do, but I am another die hard fan of Oase who is going now much less then before.
-
[QUOTE=Howie;1970011]Was recently in Oase this week. Talk of improved amenities, food and line up had me curious.
Went, scoped around, ate and left. No session. No stand out girls to fuck on this visit. Unfortunate. Probably worse line up of the four majors I visited this week in Hessen.
Worse thing about this visit was being pestered by a blonde average looking GND type looking for a five Euro tip. Total stranger who kept on grabbing me. Almost took her to the reception for hassling me.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Which day of the week was this?
-
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1970184]Oase average service level today same as 2004 or 2008 ?
With all respect...come on!
I was around back then like you, and please let's not make comparisons because it would really result embarassing.
And that is for 50 or 100 or 1000 e sessions.
For 100 e today you are getting from the Oase girls as good a service and attitude as you (and I) were used to back then? Good for you, but it's not my experience, since a few years.
Strangely enough, when some girl with "old Oase school" attitude and service shows up today, like latvian Ina, she is taken all day long with a long line of customers. Only that today there is 1 or 2 like her, back then there used to be maybe 15-20 on the same day, plus odd part timers that are nowadays compleately disappeared. Don't let me do lists, please.
Of course when I read that some here (experienced mongers) can rate Laura / Livia's service as good, it really shows once again that there is not one truth.
Move on? We all do, but I am another die hard fan of Oase who is going now much less then before.[/QUOTE]Nostalgy before it was better, but sorry I don t believe I am visiting this club for many many years and like every where they are up and downs but for me the girls from today are younger more or less all will offer anal, etc. That was not the case in 03/04. At that time had also more German girls and the service was not so good that from the Romanian girls now. All in all today it is better for me, the girls are beautiful, young, etc. What can we expect more, after all this stories about service but sex is linked with pleasure and that is in the head / brain and not only in the dick.
-
[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1970184]Oase average service level today same as 2004 or 2008 ?
With all respect...come on![/QUOTE]Dute, please. Read my posts again. It's not what I said. I specifically said 50 E sessions are NOT what they used to be. Let's agree to that at least. And we would both avoid girls that openly are upsellers. It's part of the selection process. Agreed? Then we can agree that there are more upselling than before, but I suspect we would never agree to what extent there is more upselling. At least I still can find PLENTY of goodlooking girls with decent services at Oase.
You are known as a 50 E guy, so obviously you and I have different experiences. But in case you every now and then do 60 mnts sessions at Oase, please can you explain what you got back then that you cannot get now?