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London Traveler, I fully agree with Akibono, Titus81, Travelerb69, etc... Probably, these girls are just trying to start a conversation (apart from the usual "How are you", "what's your name", "where do you come from" and "first time in club?").
On occasions, I also have girls commenting on my look, on my language skills (lack of German), even on my nationality (which some people may take as racism). If this happens in their first approach attempt, I just laugh at it and, most of the time, they laughed too and we had a good time afterwards. Keep in mind that their English is very limited and it's not easy for them to find a topic to engage a conversation.
It's only when they say such things once you turn them down that it can be rude. I occasionally got insulted by a girl when I turned her down, but this is the exception rather than the rule at Oase.
Jim
PS: By the way, if she's from Romania (and a lot of them are), comparing you with Dracula is a compliment. He's a hero over there (Transylvania). It's when they compare you to Georges Bush that it's an insult :D.
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[QUOTE=Titus81]You really don't know rude until you have visited Palace. The last time I was there I encounted so many rude girls that I will probably not visit the club again. Girls that would just turn away if you did not say yes. Girls that would make rude comment if you politely decline. Girls that would argue with you. I know alot has to do with frustration by the lack of business, but that attitude does not help.[/QUOTE]How recent is your experience at Palace? I've been to Oase several times in the past 4 years and will be back in Frankfurt this Sunday. Never been to Palace and have been trying to decide if I should try it. Some reports here have indicated that Oase has taken a real dive in the past year and that Palace is much better for the female talent pool. BUT...it also sounds like Palace has become this high pressure, upsell joint...and I'm not crazy about that.
Any thoughts about the pros and cons of Oase vs. Palace these days?[/QUOTE]
My last visit to Palace was in early June after a two year hiatus. Every club has its good and bad days so, you can't make generalizations about which club is good or bad. But in the past year, I have made 4-5 trips to Oase compared to one trip to Palace.
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Thanks, Akibono. I've only ever visited Oase and most of the experiences there have been great, but it's been two years since my last visit. I suppose I'd be wise to stick with what I know and hit Oase again.
I'll be there on Sunday. Anyone else planning to go then?
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[QUOTE=Titus81]How recent is your experience at Palace? I've been to Oase several times in the past 4 years and will be back in Frankfurt this Sunday. Never been to Palace and have been trying to decide if I should try it. Some reports here have indicated that Oase has taken a real dive in the past year and that Palace is much better for the female talent pool. BUT...it also sounds like Palace has become this high pressure, upsell joint...and I'm not crazy about that.
Any thoughts about the pros and cons of Oase vs. Palace these days?[/QUOTE]
I have recently been to both Oase, Palace and World, but it is kind of irrelevant as the scene changes somewhat during the summer holiday season. And IME the scene changes more dramatically at Palace than the other two as Palace generally benefit from the messe crowd (no messe in summer).
No messe, few men. Few men, few girls. Whatever talent pool Palace had in May and June, my guess is that only a fraction of it will be present in July and August. Come back in September.
Also, Palace has no outdoors, while World and Oase indeed have some lovely outdoors. It may even be crowded on certain days if the weather is really good ...
How do you define "talent"?
If looks is everything, then all these clubs will satisfy your needs. Not all girls have that supermodel-look, but you will find a few in all of these clubs. Focus on the evening line-ups for the best choices. Too many MILFy-looking in Oase? Surprise, they are at Palace and World too! But most girls are sweet girlnextdoor types. It has its ups and downs, but overall I think the Oase line-up of 2010 is as strong as ever.
Care about service? I have always had some problems at Palace with this, but if you are able to make the right choices, you can minimize the risk. How good are you in making the right choices?
Are you a big spender? Visiting frequently always asking for extras as CIM and/or anal and known to spend at least 1- 2 hours with the girls? Well, money is the greatest afrodisiac, and the girls will love you wherever you are.
All of World, Palace and Oase are worth a visit, and I can gladly recommend all of them. But July and August is not the right time for a Palace visit IMO if a strong and large line-up is what you are seeking. If you do, arrive late, as the daytime line-up in summer can be disappointing.
From a personal point of view; if I was to make 10 club visits in Frankfurt this summer (and I will ...), then I would make 6 to Oase, 3 to World and maybe 1 to Palace (if the weather was really bad). Or wait, maybe I would try Mainhattan or Das 5 Element in stead of Palace?
Hope some of this was helpful.
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Thanks, Shark! That's exactly the kind of response I was looking for. Looks like I'll be heading back to Oase.
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Tuesday visit
Thanks to everyone for the helpful advice. All the 'rude' comments took place before I politely declined the girls' offers so I think they were just tactless, as you suggest, I must have more of a sense of humour :o)
It turned out that my lack of staying power on Sunday was due to my incubating a slight cold (this has happened before) which came out in the normal form (sniffles and slight sore throat) last night. However, I had nothing else to do so, after weighing up the situation (feeling not too bad, probably no longer infectious, had to get out of the hotel etc.) I went off to Oase again today.
I turned up at about 10.30 and settled myself down by the pool (this time I took a book). One or two girls gave me a friendly hello, some were less friendly and became rather negative towards me as the day progressed and it was clear that I wasn't going to book them. However, most were new to me. I would be interested if anyone has any experience of Emma, a Slovakian bottle blonde who I chatted to briefly and who seemed to be quite popular later in the afternoon, doing a lot of shagging in the rather public shaded beds at the far end of the garden. There was also a cute 18 year old who was with two less attractive friends who rather took my fancy (and seemed to have a little fan club too) she has dark brown shoulder length wavy hair, is quite petite and has a tattoo on her lower back but I didn't chat to her so I'm not sure of her name. Any info is welcome as I will probably be returning on Thursday.
I sat for ages reading my book in the shade and chatting a bit until eventually choosing a few girls as options - the first one of these I met up with was the one I proposed to and she turned out to be Lynn a tall German girl in her mid/late 20s with strikingly regular facial features and long dark brown hair. She was chatting to Tessa over lunch and I thought that in her heels and red fishnets she looked as though she was advertising that she was good at the PSE. She also had a number of unusual piercings (several on her body and labia) as well as several unusual tats. She looked well cared for though and I found the overall effect quite hot. I had also seen her disappear with a guy and they both came out again looking fairly happy. She agreed to a blow job and my touching her pussy, so off we went. I wasn't disappointed as she gave me a skilled BBBJ with lots of eye contact and CIM.
After that I stayed for the buffet dinner but left soon after as I was rather exhausted and it had been very hot.
I am wondering now whether to go to World on Thursday (hopefully I will have recovered fully by then) or back to Oase. I am getting to know a few girls at Oase who seem to be good - I particularly fancy those who have been shagging on the outdoor mattresses with the sunshades as they look quite disinhibited - but so far nobody has offered me this - any tips as to how to get on these? Anyway, rather than starting again and observing the World scene I think I am probably better off using my limited knowledge of Oase to better effect ... all suggestions welcome!
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[QUOTE=Shark16]If you do, arrive late, as the daytime line-up in summer can be disappointing.[/QUOTE]
I disagree with this statement. I 've just spent 8 days at Oase in the last few weeks, and the morning line-up was always much better than the evening one (unless you like Romanian-only line-up). See my previous reports, in particular
For the morning line-up: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1033816&postcount=5798[/url]
For the evening line-up: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1034358&postcount=5810[/url]
After the disastrous evening line-up I mentioned in the later post, I spoke with some of my favourite girls who all work the morning shift (German, Hungarian, Polish, Czech, Slovak, Ukrainian, Russian, etc...) and they all say they prefer the morning shift and to leave the evening shift to the Romanians and to those who have a room in the club and don't have to go home. Less hurry, more local regular customers (repeat business), go home and to bed at a reasonable time and don't have to stay awake and bored until 5:00am waiting for an hypothetical customer. They stay longer only if they didn't have enough business during the day.
Some people also recommend to be there between 5.00pm and 10.00pm, when both shifts are supposed to be working at the same time. In theory: yes, in practice: no. Apart from the fact that some girls of the morning shift are leaving early, sometimes by 5.00-6.00pm, many clients also arrive after 5.00pm and the ratio girls-clients is deteriorating. Most popular girls immediately disappear in the rooms and are not seen again until they leave.
Jim
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Hey Jim,
That's some very good observations you are making, and I won't argue with you, as my reference was to Palace - NOT Oase. Haha ... ;-)
Man, I just love the daytime in the garden at Oase on a warm summer day. Although changing from day to day, the line-up in the morning can often be absolutely top notch, I agree. Also, the atmosphere in the garden is so much more relaxed in the morning. The girls are resting and sunbathing in the nude before the crowds come storming in, ratios are good, lots of smiles around, you can swim with the girls in the outdoor pool (which they don't have that much time to do later in the afternoon), and everyone seems to have so much better time to smalltalk. This is an excellent time to mingle and get to know the girls better IMHO.
You are also right with your note on line-up at Oase between 5- 10 pm with some girls leaving early and poorer F/M ratios because of more men. My only point is that this IS the time of day when the pure number of girls peaks and you have the best selection (in theory). But you sometimes have to be quick to pick the most popular girls at this time, I agree.
Around midnight at Oase things seem to quiet down and you will again feel a more relaxed vibe (and good F/M ratios). A favorite playtime for many I know. I was not aware of the Romanian domination at night, but then again I do fine with the Romaniacs at Oase at the moment (Crina, Sandra, Christina, Carina, Alina, Ambra to name a few), so this is a matter of preference and experience, I guess.
But back to Palace and my remark on the daytime selection. I have had a couple of experiences at Palace in summertime in the past with only 3- 4 girls present from 10am to 3 pm and 2-3 times as many men. As comparison, even on a poor summer morning at Oase I have never experienced less than 10- 15 girls. Note that I am not saying that the standard daytime line-up at Palace in summer is 3- 4 girls, only that there is a risk. My major point was just to say that Palace always has a weaker line-up in summer due to the none-messe time, and I think it is quite well-known that the buzz at Palace in summer (best selection of girls) arrives late in the evening.
To be fair to the Palace lovers I have to say that the aircon is a lot better there than at Oase, and the atmosphere a lot more relaxed (if you want to escape the heat and crowds which sometimes can happen at Oase on warm summer evenings). EL wrote a well-written piece about this last summer which I easily can recommend for those who prefer a Palace visit.
Still, the combination of a great line-up of serviceminded girls and the lovely outdoors at Oase is unbeatable at the moment IMHO.
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[QUOTE=London Traveller]...I particularly fancy those who have been shagging on the outdoor mattresses with the sunshades as they look quite disinhibited - but so far nobody has offered me this - any tips as to how to get on these?[/QUOTE]
Mattress fucking 101:
a) Walk to a girl you fancy and open up with f.ex. "Hi" (no need to keep it too complicated)
b) Then ask her to come with you and shag on the outdoor mattress
c) If she says she prefers to go to a room, call the deal off. In most cases she will then agree to the mattress cause she aint gonna miss a 50 in a hand because of minor preference difference
d) Have sex with her on the mattress
simple once you figure it out ;-)
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[QUOTE=Henio]Mattress fucking 101:
a) Walk to a girl you fancy and open up with f.ex. "Hi" (no need to keep it too complicated)
b) Then ask her to come with you and shag on the outdoor mattress
c) If she says she prefers to go to a room, call the deal off. In most cases she will then agree to the mattress cause she aint gonna miss a 50 in a hand because of minor preference difference
d) Have sex with her on the mattress
simple once you figure it out ;-)[/QUOTE]Thanks H, I knew it was a silly question just after I pressed the 'add report' button, but as it was part of a much larger post I didn't actually think anyone would be kind enough to give me the full low down. I will give this a try if/when I get up the nerve!
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[quote=shark16]hey jim,
.... and i won't argue with you, as my reference was to palace - not oase. haha ... ;-)[/quote]
my bad.... sorry about that. need to improve my speed reading :o.
still, am glad you also find that daytime at oase can be pretty nice, especially in the summer, and that the morning line-up ther can be top notch at times. :d
won't say anything about palace, stopped to go there for years....
jim
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[QUOTE=London Traveller]I would be interested if anyone has any experience of Emma, a Slovakian bottle blonde who I chatted to briefly and who seemed to be quite popular later in the afternoon, doing a lot of shagging in the rather public shaded beds at the far end of the garden.[/QUOTE]
I've been with Emma twice a couple of weeks ago. I like her, she had a very nice smile. She's not my top favorite at Oase, but I wouldn't mind sessioning with her again (which means she's in my top 10, but not in my top 5).
As you may have noticed, she speaks an excellent English (at least for a non-English native like myself) and is quite educated, which is great for social time. We use to chat quite a long time, and she never pushed to go to the room and takes her time (at least in the morning, when business is slow).
She's not a teen like Viviane.hu or Sandra.ro, or a catwalk model like Agina.de or Laura.lv, but she is very services oriented. She says she's very open to sex, including anal (which she says she enjoys), and this is true. So far, she did, and let me do everything I wanted (although I didn't ask for rimming). No problem for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CIM, 69, fingering, etc... hard working and didn't try to shorten anything.
We sessioned once in the love nest in broad daylight, with people walking up occassionally and this doesn't bother her at all.
Jim
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Gandjim
Hey fellow monger,
Would you like to rate your top ten in order.
Charlie
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[QUOTE=Titus81] Any thoughts about the pros and cons of Oase vs. Palace these days?[/QUOTE]
Last week Thurs, Oase was rammed with girls. There were girls all over the place.
On Friday, Oase has much less girls and a decent turnout of men. It was quite full and queues for the rooms.
On Saturday, Oase has pretty much the same girls from Friday but with some notable exceptions dropping out. The garden was pretty gay with men and only a few girls. There were the odd wait for the rooms.
Sunday at Oase was dead. Many girls just hung outside swimming and sunbathing as there were hardly any men. At certain stages on Sunday there were 40 to 45 girls in the garden sunbathing and 3 men including me. There were not very many girls and since there were no men there were many girls leaving early. When I left the club there was like only 20 girls still hanging around.
In my opinion the line up was not that good at Oase since I noted many favourites of my running mates and of mine were not working since they were away because of holidays or knew that the football would be keeping business down. The Polish contingent was depleted all weekend having turned up Thurs and Fri. Alina and Aida has come back. Much of the Hungarian contingent was decimated but there was Viviane and Yvette. Czechs and Slovaks were represented. Low down on the Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats. German crew was well in attendance - interesting given the football. Hordes and hordes of Romanian teenies as always. A lot of average looking girls when you think about it really.
The German fuckers I met after conferring all did not come back to Oase and went to World or Palace instead or to Sakura or to Royal or to Paradise.
Hessen Bub, Simona / Ralucca was working all weekend.
I did not go to Palace but I hear the line up there has a lot of pretty girls that are immaculately turned out. They still fuck for fiddy notes like the girls at Oase too. It is nice to fuck a supermodel.
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[QUOTE=Chico Charlie 1]Hey fellow monger,
Would you like to rate your top ten in order.
Charlie[/QUOTE]
This is my top 10 from my last visit a couple of weeks ago (not all-time top 10):
First 5 (in no particular order, will repeat as soon as I see one of them): Lila.pl, Charlene.de, Viviane.hu, Tamara.de, Timea.hu.
Next (will repeat if the first 5 are not present and no promissing new faces): Yvette.hu, Emma.sk, Lili.pl, Sandra.ro, Judith.hu, etc... maybe Michelle.ch.
Michelle used to be in the top 5, even in the first place, but I've been with her too many times now.... On the other hand, even if she's not listed in my top 10, I may jump on Anabelle.de as soon as I see her (see previous post). And maybe on Jill.de too, I didn't managed to session her last time, but would really like to.
And if I'm fancy an optikfuck, I may go with Agina.de or Laura.lv. Certainly in my top 5 in the look department.
Jim