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[QUOTE=NF4591;1899225]I will be visiting Oase, and I don't know many of the girls since I have not been there in a long time. Some of my favorites were May (Thai) of a few years ago, Kelly (Dom), and Diana (Dom). I will need to find some new girls, and am interested in DFK, FIV, FIA, and rimming. Are there girls the experts here would recommend for those services?[/QUOTE]Diana (Dom) has been back. For very enthusiastic session try new May (Phi), if you don't mind weak BJ due to braces.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1899035]For sure its not the girls. Very few girls are willing to lose a sale due to shyness and unwillingness to do it in kino.[/QUOTE]Again, J30 experiences concurs with mine. I find it very easy to find girls at Oase willing to do a little public sex (primarily BBBJ/CFS, but DFK can also be available). In the kino. Outside by the pool. In the sunbeds. In the bed on the hill. At times also on the couches. I have done this every year for more than a decade including 2016 at this club and have no intentions to stop now. Maybe it was easier back in the days, but no reason to dramatize. It is SO easy to have public sex at Oase (at World too). I will encourage everyone who wants to let loose to just go for it.
Don't be setback by a couple of no's. Just move on to the next girl. There is ALWAYS someone around the corner willing to partake. Sure, the more experienced girls are more likely to be positive, but there is no reason not to challenge some of the newer younger girls too. Just smile and tease her. Maybe suggest to take her a little away from the crowds if she is hesitant. Of course, skip any girl asking for extras. I can almost guarantee a positive outcome.
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Sat. June 18 Oase
I made my first trip to Oase. Taxi to the nearest train station is 20 E. They had around 50 girls and the food was slightly better than Sharks. There was a cute thin Thai lady that went with 5 customers during the 2.5 hrs. I was there. The décor is better than Sharks and entrance fee slightly higher. I settled on a blonde from Romania. She was good in the bedroom. The girls were cute and many slim hard bodies. Sharks and Oase were the only 2 FKK clubs I visited. Didn't make it to Manhattan even though it was the closest one to my hotel.
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Oase on Tuesday 28th June
I visited Oase today, for the first time this year. I hardly recognized anyone, and ended up having just one session with Elizabeth (Czech) because I had read about her here. She had great tits, and was fun to talk with because she spoke English very well. She wouldn't allow fingers in her pussy or DATY /69, but she gave a great, very wet BBBJ with lots of licking / sucking on my balls. I ended up finishing with CIM - 150 euros for 1 hour + CIM. Rating 7/10.
I was thinking of going with Cora, but she wanted to charge another 50 euros for licking my balls. I didn't like that idea, so I passed on the session.
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[QUOTE=Cool;1899830]I made my first trip to Oase. Taxi to the nearest train station is 20 E. They had around 50 girls and the food was slightly better than Sharks. There was a cute thin Thai lady that went with 5 customers during the 2.5 hrs. I was there. The dcor is better than Sharks and entrance fee slightly higher. I settled on a blonde from Romania. She was good in the bedroom. The girls were cute and many slim hard bodies. Sharks and Oase were the only 2 FKK clubs I visited. Didn't make it to Manhattan even though it was the closest one to my hotel.[/QUOTE]This report has a few missconceptions that needs to be rectiied. And a question.
- Taxi fare is 10 euro each way (or 10.20 now with the slight price hike going by meter).
- If you buy the 6 for 4 card, entry fee is cheaper at Oase than at Sharks. Normal people buys that one, because Oase rocks, and we are all returning.
A cute thin thai lady? The short haired one at age 30 or so with a nice curvy ass? (I never asked for her name).
Or May the Philippino who really is short and cute, but some might think she is thai.
Or a new girl?
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Friday 17/6 and Sunday 19/6
After hopping over from Darmstadt and booking into the Mercure which I had prepaid I found myself in the oase garden swimming pool bathed in glorious sunshine. The pattern emerging from recent trips has been one where a move away from quantity is being replaced by quality, encounters with gems those 8 and 9 out of 10's that linger in our psyches for years to come. Initially I could not quite find that magical factor so I resigned myself to observation mode on the inside couches in the hope that something would happen. After being approached by a number of prospects that did not do it for me suddenly I felt a big lump arrive on my right thigh. On looking over I knew instantly that in this case she had found me. Sadly I only remember her real name which I cannot mention here, (I often ask a girl her name to increase the intimacy between us and nearly always get an answer). She was a true Russian biologically who had grown up in Germany with pale white skin, gorgeous brunette locks and dark dark rusky eyes. I would describe her as a brunette version of Marilyn. After plenty of relaxed chit chat we went for 1 hour. She was the unprompted DFK of the trip totally natural and deep. She also asked me for 2 fingers inside her which she wanted me to rhythmically move around to her pleasure. There were some extras of which I have forgotten. I gave her the option of a hard or slow doggy and she requested a hard one which I delivered with pleasure. Her ass cheeks were so cool and buxom that even for me it was a new experience. I felt a bad sad to see her working on other guys and getting turned away in the main room later on. Rarely feel anything like that. She satisfied me fully for that day.
Sunday was nice. An escape from the Saturday rush hour. I was pleased to meet the oase cat named Bloggy I think. From the outset another pale skinned swan kept reappearing. Her name was Lara not Laura as she pointed out to me. A 21 year old half Romanian with a cute little ass to die for. What differentiated her from the other Romies was that she had grown up partly in Italy with an Italian father which contributed to her unusual appearance. The football was boring her so we went for an hour. I wanted to know what turned her on and as her English was not great she tried to reply by saying schneller. She explained that turned her on i. e. fast sex. So the more she tried to elaborate initially the less I understood!!LOL So then I held her and started moving her around the bed from side to side with my own weight to which she responded with delight saying yes, yes, yes schneller, and squealing. She loves to be handled quickly and passionately her DFK reflected this, as she rubbed up and down on me ever faster. At the end I gave her the option of a slow or hard doggy and again she grinningly asked for hard. I only report what happened here I am not making any of this up!! We both collapsed ending a heavenly session.
I had funds for 1 more hour. This went on German Sophie. At this point I was tired and was flying out in the morning. Sophie kissed a bit with lovely bbj finished by a happy ending. Would love to see Sophie again she was a real freckled little swan. Maybe next time when I have more energy. Sophie was the one that got away as they say. So 7 girls, 4 club visits, all 1 hour rooms plus numerous copyrighted extras, 7 hours in room time, but most importantly the top gems for me in both clubs. With regards to the lineups between Oase and Sharks I found this to be negligible in difference, i. e. no real difference. There were stunners and average looking girls in both clubs in more or less the same ratios. Sharks is a great club and I have no real negative feedback here, but.... The narrow corridors and mirrors of oase, the way you have to squeeze past the girls, the wooden huts and garden and overall cosy homely and concealed countryside location continue to make OASE SV's NO. 1 ALLTIME CLUB!! A week at the Mercure is all I really need. One last issue; I did have a mild case of the claps on return which I have now taken antibiotics for. This has never happened to me before but it does show the prevalence of infections out there. Make sure everyone is strapped up tightly and enjoy!! SV.
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Sophie
Has Sophie told you where she has worked previously? The one I know from another club is not tall, on the petite side, but hips a bit wider now. Long dark brunette, looks black from a distance. Brown eyes. I thought she was Romanian when I first saw her. LOL. If that's the girl I'm thinking of, her English is really good, and very chatty. She was a weekend girl due to her other occupation.
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Starletvoyager gets an STD
Thanks a bunch for the trip reports of your June visits to the Frankfurt clubs.
All I can think is your end note of getting the clap (Gonorrhea) which is a sexually transmitted bacterial infection. Did you have unprotected vaginal sex or was it from the unprotected deep throating blowjobs you were getting?
I have known guys to get STDs from uncovered blowjobs so I do not discount that fact.
The interesring thing is one of your 7 girls may have given you that STD unless you were banging something at home prior or after your FKK trip. Good to note the ones for future reference.
Thanks for sharing. I am grateful.
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Sv
Is your Russian girl Mila? Half Russian, half Ukrainian with a German passport as she said to me. Pretty girl, good, personality.
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Feedback
That could very well be the russian girl as the description rings a bell. Facially very attractive and she rimmed me for an extra 50!! I must have caught it in FKK land as I was dormant here at home even though all sex was covered in germany., normally too busy with work. As for sophie she did have a dark tan and quite petite but not black looking. I could imagine her in gt.
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SV, I meant her haired looked black from a distance although she was a dark brunette. Long curley hair. She maybe the one that worked at DV. I know she has freckles.
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[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;1901315]That could very well be the russian girl as the description rings a bell. Facially very attractive and she rimmed me for an extra 50!!
I must have caught it in FKK land as I was dormant here at home even though all sex was covered in germany., normally too busy with work.
As for sophie she did have a dark tan and quite petite but not black looking. I could imagine her in gt.[/QUOTE]Hey SV, using some paragraphs like what one was taught at school may help separate your ideas rather than make them one mass of thoughts. I hope that is okay?
Cool, so possibly the Russian girl that you went with and probably the same girl that Pussyliccker and possibly Jnpr30 fucked was the one that gave you the Gonorrhea. Maybe Pussylicker should have a check up too just in case?
Always good to know. Better be safe than sorry. Good you took responsibility to go get your Clap treated. Some don't and jeep on spreading it or don't go check up and keep on fucking and being sucked.
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I should get checked, why? I asked about a girl, and I magically have the clap now? This is so rediculous.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1901362]I should get checked, why? I asked about a girl, and I magically have the clap now? This is so rediculous.[/QUOTE]Did you ever go with her? Then if so maybe there is a possibility. That is not being ridiculous that is being responsible for your own health and for others.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1900963]Thanks a bunch for the trip reports of your June visits to the Frankfurt clubs.
All I can think is your end note of getting the clap (Gonorrhea) which is a sexually transmitted bacterial infection. Did you have unprotected vaginal sex or was it from the unprotected deep throating blowjobs you were getting?
I have known guys to get STDs from uncovered blowjobs so I do not discount that fact.
The interesring thing is one of your 7 girls may have given you that STD unless you were banging something at home prior or after your FKK trip. Good to note the ones for future reference.
Thanks for sharing. I am grateful.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the education. I did not know that The Clap referred to Gonor. In particular as distinct from other STDd. I have not yet had the pleasure of a dose of the Clap.
I believe Chlamydia is even easier to catch, and its possible to catch it from a BBBJ, even if a little rare.
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Which is the best FKK these days in Germany
I haven't visited any FKK since 2014 , so don't know what's going on these days. I plan to visit Germany in August.
Can anyone tell which is the best FKK these days in terms of line up on weekdays.
Thanks
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Sharks. Hands down and not even close. Girl quality, quantity, and attitude, Sharks is winning by a mile now.
[QUOTE=Cheema;1902098]I haven't visited any FKK since 2014 , so don't know what's going on these days. I plan to visit Germany in August.
Can anyone tell which is the best FKK these days in terms of line up on weekdays.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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Oase on Saturday 2nd July
I spent much of the day at Oase, and had 2 sessions with the same girl: May from Philippines. She's very petite and pretty, and I knew I had to have her when I saw her. Instead of waiting to approach. A mistake I have made too many times before. I approached her as soon as I saw her to make sure I had time with her. I asked her to join me to talk in the kino, and she said ok, but she let me know that she did not want to give any sexual services in the kino. I said fine, I just want to talk. Her English is very good, and she was fun to talk with. After talking for a few minutes, we went to the room.
I had two sessions with her, and both sessions included BLS, doggy, mish, BBBJ, DFK. It was a total GFE, very good service. I would definitely repeat - 2 sessions each 90 minutes, 150 eur each, rating 8/10.
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Oase report
Went to Oase on a Thursday around at 4 pm. Line up not too impressive compared to Sharks and not too many guests as well. Sessioned with Veronica, ex samya, a very pretty voluptuous girl who offered Kissing with tongue, DATY, sex in MPOS and BBBJ. I spent a total of 1. 5 Hrs. with her. She is a sweet girl and probably expected a tip. Judging from the attitude of the next girl I fucked, maybe not unwarranted as the next girl was a fierce upseller.
Got approached by a short, skinny, brunette and took up on her offer for kissing with one hour. She delivered good BBBJ and DFK and I asked whether she offered anal as I like to fuck petite girls in the ass and was delighted when she said yes. I finished in her pussy at the half hour mark. We talked for the next ten minutes and I was hard again in anticipation of fucking her ass. Next she lowered her asshole on my dick and we fucked for five minutes in that position. Then we switched to doggy and gave her vigorous pounding up her ass for a long time before I came.
Saw another girl I liked but didn't session, Arabella. A thin petite girl who asked if I wanted to lick her pussy and her ass as they tasted better than the food I was heading to eat. Regretting not to have accepted her offer, her words still resonating in my ears.
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;1902298]Sharks. Hands down and not even close. Girl quality, quantity, and attitude, Sharks is winning by a mile now.[/QUOTE]Perhaps HB (Hessen Bub) and some regulars are the best people to answer that.
Your Comments please HB?
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I know Craiova will start complaining about me or others hyping Sharks and that Mainhattan has the better optics and at least the same service level, better food and blah. LOL. But IMHO Sharks currently is the best clubs at least in Hessen, re line up quality and quantity, also for service. Don't know about World, haven't been for over 8 months, but it seems to be very volatile re number and quality of girls. Oase still is a nice club, line up with great optics, a little difficult re service levels. Shitty food. Best pool of all clubs, maybe Artemis' pool is on the same level. Palace I wouldn't recommend for newbies and non regulars, except you are willing to pay more than 50€/30 min. Same applies to Mainhattan. But this is my personal view, YMMV. Happy fucking!
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1903075]I know Craiova will start complaining about me or others hyping Sharks and that Mainhattan has the better optics and at least the same service level, better food and blah. LOL. But IMHO Sharks currently is the best clubs at least in Hessen, re line up quality and quantity, also for service. Don't know about World, haven't been for over 8 months, but it seems to be very volatile re number and quality of girls. Oase still is a nice club, line up with great optics, a little difficult re service levels. Shitty food. Best pool of all clubs, maybe Artemis' pool is on the same level. Palace I wouldn't recommend for newbies and non regulars, except you are willing to pay more than 50/30 min. Same applies to Mainhattan. But this is my personal view, YMMV. Happy fucking!
HB.[/QUOTE]So currently you would rank Oase lower to Sharks? Is it? Surprising till sometime back same guys here were saying Oase for better optics and sharks for service funny it has changed!
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Can find sometimes real GFE without any upselling, at Mainhattan, next try for birthday on next Saturday. Same level for GFE for me than Sharks, Oase and World are now lower for my tastes.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1903166] Surprising till sometime back same guys here were saying Oase for better optics and sharks for service funny it has changed![/QUOTE]Did I? Can't remember that. Right now I'd rate Sharks and Oase more or less par at optics, but Sharks better for service.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1903075]I know Craiova will start complaining about me or others hyping Sharks and that Mainhattan has the better optics and at least the same service level, better food and blah. LOL.[/QUOTE]Hmm please be so kind and tell everybody you are running the only P6 forum in the P6 World without an finanial interests, Hmm you like LOL, for me that's at least 5 times LOL.
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Just because you can't accept it doesn't mean it isn't true.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1903167]Can find sometimes real GFE without any upselling, at Mainhattan, next try for birthday on next Saturday. Same level for GFE for me than Sharks, Oase and World are now lower for my tastes.[/QUOTE]This is likely true. I would say Oase is more on par with Palace in terms of upselling.
Oase does have a good LU. I can't say Sharks is better optically. Ironically, Sharks girls are just less Sharky.
I had record time session there last time. Disastrous session. One of the worst. If anything the attitudes of girls I'm interested there gives me bad vibes. So, I had no interest in sessions there.
Oase is scratched off my list of clubs to visit.
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Work the Line-up, don't blame the whole club
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1903410]This is likely true. I would say Oase is more on par with Palace in terms of upselling.
Oase does have a good LU. I can't say Sharks is better optically. Ironically, Sharks girls are just less Sharky.
I had record time session there last time. Disastrous session. One of the worst. If anything the attitudes of girls I'm interested there gives me bad vibes. So, I had no interest in sessions there.
Oase is scratched off my list of clubs to visit.[/QUOTE]There you go: blame the whole club because you made a mistake by choosing a bad apple from the barrel? And that barrel may well contain other (lots of?) bad apples, but there are still plenty of very good pieces of fruit in that barrel. To put Oase in the same group as Palace: That is much too extreme, you over-state the case, in my opinion, of course. And even at the extreme sharky Palace, with its own club (try to rip-off-the-customer) culture one can find the right girl (s) if you try and work your way through the line-up.
I speak in these terms because I have just completed ten days of multiple visits to Oase and Sharks. At Oase, I was initially disappointed by the line-up, even during the evening between 19-22.00. So many of my favorite / regular Zimmer mates were missing / on holiday, whatever, just not there. Then, I went to Sharks three days in a row, because I found Oase so lacking in enticement and because Sharks is just so, so good right now. However, I went back to Oase for another visit, this time on a Fri and then Sat night. I worked my way through the line-up and weeded out the sharky, inexperienced or girls for whom I just had no interest and I found some real gems working there right now. Yeah, during the Euro-football thing.
In fact, I went with a few new girls and I got above average to totally mind-blowing sessions from most of them! Yes at Oase. Sure a few of my new tries did not manage to impress. But as I got more "warmed up" in choosing correctly I was able to find great so-called "GFE" girls from those amongst the new crop.
One girl in particular stands out: Kiara (I think that is the correct name), striking girl with very vivid red-dyed hair, long very well looked after hair that comes down almost to her ass. She has lots of tattoos and said to me she worked at Oase two years ago (as a blonde), left and has now come back for a short stint. She said she normally works as a window girl in one of the better-known RLDs of Belgium. Wow, this girl delivered to me one of the only "off-the-charts" sessions I've had in several years. I was amazed that I could find this at Oase (or even Sharks) these days. What a full-out erotic performance she gave me, but also very affectionate and intimate. Yes I initially stayed one hour, which I quickly extended to two. However, she told me she'd be leaving soon, and probably not be back for a while. Just shows you that Oase is still a "destination" club where you can find girls from all kinds of backgrounds, both in and out of the p6 world, and if you "work the line-up" you can find very good opportunities and, at same time, perhaps avoid "disasterous" encounters.
Another girl at Oase that is representative of good service girls (and I believe there are several others) is Krina, who has been around for about 5 years or more. I actually sessioned with her a few years ago when she was fairly new, and it was pretty good. But when I met her last week (she works days til 22.00), I liked her look and her vibe, so I went into Zimmer again: Wow, great, great, great session! Followed by two more on subsequent early evenings.
So please, let us not paint the whole club / the entire line-up with the same brush. Are there problems with Oase right now? Yes. Are there negatives? Yes, not just the food too. But there are several positives. Besides the LU, which can be debated ad nauseum in subjective terms, there are other things to consider in the club's favor:
--Oase is a good deal emptier / quieter / less-frequented by men than Sharks. This makes for overall better mongering conditions (for me, at least). Go to Sharks on busy times (Weds, Saturday nights, etc) and it can become a Zoo!
--Many of the rooms at Oase offer superior conditions than the rooms at Sharks, esp during these summer months. Many of the Oase rooms are cooler, better ventalated than Sharks rooms (in general) and there is a greater population of mirrored-rooms at Oase than Sharks.
--The 280 e (Pay 4/ Enter 6) Eintritt deal at Oase is vastly more friendly to the repeat visitor than Sharks' 325 e for 6 visits.
On balance, I would agree and my recent experiences confirm that Sharks has a vaster and perhaps overall more-enticing line-up than Oase. But based on my very recent visits to Oase, I would definitely not cross it off my list, and I would certainly not ditch a whole club just because I fucked up and selected bad girls for my sessions.
But to each there own.
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In my experience the Oase girls in general are much more ymmv than what I've seen at other clubs where the girls tend to be more good, mediocre or bad in service across the whole line.
I've had a few oase girls this past year that has really come through after getting to know them and have bloomed while the first impression was more cold.
I think I have about an 80% success rate at oase this year where I have nothing to complain about, and even a few of my 'complain' girls have come to me later and told me they would do this and that if I went with them again. There is high competition at Oase, in my opinnion by far the highest competition I've seen for the past 12 months. So the girls do what they must to sell themselves if they want to earn the money. It is deffinately a buyers market, but perhaps it also boils down to being a little bit of 'better service to returning customers in the club', or 'taking it cool, and playing the girls right'. I don't know.
For me, the club is #1 in optical LU as far as I know (sharks is not even in the same league). But truth be told I havent checked out GT yet.
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Oase is still my go to club in Frankfurt. No competition. Excellent summary by Ortos, but I would probably add the garden to the list of reasons why this is my preferred club.
Nothing wrong with the line-up at Sharks. Optically speaking the Sharks line-up is the only club in Frankfurt that IMO rivals Oase. But I just can't stand the facilities, terrible F / M ratios, lack of good rooms and polluted air. Sharks is a bit hyped, yes.
World is a great club too. Love the facilities (couches, winter garden and garden!!). But the line-up is just not up to par with Oase / Sharks. Still a lot of fun can be had (at least on a Friday/Saturday night). My #2 pick.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1903447]I think I have about an 80% success rate at oase this year where I have nothing to complain about, and even a few of my 'complain' girls have come to me later and told me they would do this and that if I went with them again. [/QUOTE]Yeah, that sums it up pretty nicely. Most sessions at Oase are excellent once you are capable of weeding out the bad apples. My success rate at Sharks and World are pretty much the same (not better at all). At Palace 50- 60% of my sessions are shite so IME Palace is the only club that stands out negatively. I rarely go there any longer and cannot recommend.
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I feel the facilities at Sharks are fine (except it needs more mirrors in the rooms like most clubs do. Oase being perhaps the only one that holds the mark on this), but the layout at sharks desperately needs to be fixed by an expert. Right now it feels like there was an explotion, and random couches and the bar was just thrown randomly around the warehouse. The layout is so randomly unintelligent that it hurts my inner zen walking into the place. Chances are it also hurts my view of the girls. But its a very small chance. Food is great in my view except for the salt, and the upper floor stuff is nice.
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Optically the lineup in Sharks is certainly on par with Oase. Too many non-DFK girls in Sharks however, but still you can find enough decent girls in Sharks, as long as you talk with many many girls first. Attitude and arrogance of the girls in Sharks is terrible however. In Oase the girls at least smile when they try to upsell you some extras, and the success ratio (decent DFK and service, also in 30 minutes session) is better here. Still not as good a succes ratio as in some of the NRW clubs, but ok, it is Hessen, what do you expect.
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In my experience upsell tends to occur primarily when the booking is for 30 minutes only. With the exception of the offer of CIM longer bookings 60 min /60+min tend to decrease the chance of encountering upsell offers.
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[QUOTE=Maxime;1903692]Too many non-DFK girls in Sharks........................ attitude and arrogance of the girls in Sharks is terrible however. [/QUOTE]We go to the same clubs but again we have totally different experiences at those clubs. Not that I went with a ton of girls at Sharks but I can't recall one who did not DFK. I also think overall Sharks girls are pretty friendly. Oase girls are friendly too outside the room but once inside the room you get a hard sell like you do from the gorgeous blonde Roxanna.
Agree with some of the previous posts the rooms at Sharks are some of the worst in a major FKK.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1903075]I know Craiova will start complaining about me or others hyping Sharks and that Mainhattan has the better optics and at least the same service level, better food and blah. LOL.[/QUOTE]Ohh very funny. Maybe you can show me my post where I should have written about better optics, very strange. Food overrated in generall but bc you mentioned ofc it's at Mainhattan much more better. And this really starts to bother me if you compare same optic and classy girls than average service level is same. Basta LOL Girls change too often between the clubs. What you have at Sharks are the most girls but most of them 6's and 7's. Yep and you find more girls wasting her time with clients on sofa unpaid for long time and more 6's and 7's doing this and that for free at room. But this girls haven't for me almost close low level like the Dietzenbach girls. But it isn't a surprise if these guys usally like Dietzenbach that they prefer than Sharks.
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Almost Dessous Tag Tuesday 5th July Afternoon
After a good afternoon at World on Monday, I headed for Oase yesterday as it was Dessous Tag in World and Sharks on Tuesdays.
I quickly discovered that I gave wrong advice to a poster last month too when I suggested that he go to Oase rather than Sharks on a Tuesday if he wanted to see naked girls.
Many of the girls present were covered up with all kinds of clothing. Not that there were many girls there. For me, the LU in World on Monday afternoon was better than what I found in Oase yesterday afternoon, and furthermore all the girls in World were totally naked (except for one fatty, whom I guess did look better with her tummy covered up).
Luckily, one of my favorites, Juicy, appeared, fully nude as usual and became my first session for the day. Her service is always very reliable; but after that, she tried to sell her sister's services to me. But Laura was covered up with her usual white piece of clothing. So, no to Laura as I decided that I will only take fully naked girls.
Fortunately, the next fully-nude girl to appear was another old favorite, Czech Elizabeth. This was surprising as she used to wrap up her bottom. I did not recognise her at first as she now had plaited hair with 2 small pony tails. She provided reliable service as usual, and was as amusing as ever.
The rest of the afternoon was dismal, as the girls were parading around with all kinds of pieces of clothing and I thus did not feel any urge to take any of them. An ex-favorite, Jessica, tried to tempt me as as she fully nude, but I still cannot get over her horrible boob job, and I had to pass.
Dinner was dismal too. The main dish featured very large dried-up chicken cubes that tasted like leather on skewers. I would not glorify it by calling it a kebab. More girls streamed in and came out of the changing room with even more garb. There was even an almost fully clothed policewoman!
As I had had enough of Dessous Tag and jet lag hit me again, I called it a day at 5.30 pm.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1903758]We go to the same clubs but again we have totally different experiences at those clubs. Not that I went with a ton of girls at Sharks but I can't recall one who did not DFK. I also think overall Sharks girls are pretty friendly. Oase girls are friendly too outside the room but once inside the room you get a hard sell like you do from the gorgeous blonde Roxanna.
[/QUOTE]Yes we visit the same clubs, maybe even session with some of the same girls, but in the end get totally opposite experiences:
I recently sessioned with over ten girls at Oase during three visits and NOT ONCE did I encounter "hard sell" or any negative change in attitude. If anything, the girls mostly got even friendlier once inside the room. So BB's experiences at Oase don't jive with mine at all.
Not only does this show YMMV, but also that there are many different types of girls with different attitudes and approaches to their work / clients, so all the more reason to work your way through the line up and choose the girls that have the right physical and attitude for your sessions. That for me is the game to play at Fkks: finding the right girl (s) out of a sea of potentials.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1903801]
Not that there were many girls there. For me, the LU in World on Monday afternoon was better than what I found in Oase yesterday afternoon,
The rest of the afternoon was dismal, as the girls were parading around with all kinds of pieces of clothing and I thus did not feel any urge to take any of them.
Dinner was dismal too. The main dish featured very large dried-up chicken cubes that tasted like leather on skewers. I would not glorify it by calling it a kebab. More girls streamed in and came out of the changing room with even more garb. There was even an almost fully clothed policewoman!
As I had had enough of Dessous Tag and jet lag hit me again, I called it a day at 5.30 pm.[/QUOTE]I had similar disappointing views of afternoon line-up at Oase, but as has been posted numerous times over the past few months, the line-up at Oase improves by quantum leaps after 18.00. I'm sure you are aware of this, so leaving at 5. 30 does not put you in a position to form an accurate opinion of the night-time line up. Even so, mid-week night line-ups at Oase at the moment are not that strong compared to Fri / Sat nights. The general note to take away from this: If you plan to be at a club only up to 5. 30 or 6. 00, then probably Oase is not the club to visit. Or, if you enter during afternoon and find a small and impoverished line-up at Oase, try to be patient and wait until 19.00 before you walk out the door.
But as I mentioned in an earlier post, I was able to work my way through the (night-time) line-up at Oase during mid-week visits and successfully find multiple girls that were very worth taking to the Zimmer and who, once inside, performed from above average to mind-blowing levels. I did have two rubbish sessions too. About the same success level and service level and beauty level as I found at Sharks, actually.
About the food at Oase: How many times has Syz posted (a very correct, but mysterious observation) that the quality of the food at Oase tends to be better after 21.00? Even then, it's not that impressive. But here's the line so many of us use (and some of us really believe this!): I don't visit the club for the food.
Lastly, about the covering up of naked girl bodies: This discussion crops up every other month or so. My personal take: I've seen a steady and gradual erosion of the strict naked dress code (for girls) at many clubs, for whatever reason (s). I've naturally grown to accept / ignore this and just filter it out unconsciously. However, thinking back, I saw a significant number of covered up girls at both Oase and Sharks, so it is not something exclusive to one particular club.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1903758]We go to the same clubs but again we have totally different experiences at those clubs. Not that I went with a ton of girls at Sharks but I can't recall one who did not DFK. I also think overall Sharks girls are pretty friendly. Oase girls are friendly too outside the room but once inside the room you get a hard sell like you do from the gorgeous blonde Roxanna.
Agree with some of the previous posts the rooms at Sharks are some of the worst in a major FKK.[/QUOTE]I agree. Sharks girls are friendly. Oase girls are easier to notice the quick business side of things. Like a girl talkin about prices as prezimmer. LOL. 100 for this baby. Only kiss for that.
I was at a distant club and met German locals and complaints were the same. They preferred Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1903961]If you plan to be at a club only up to 5.30 or 6.00, then probably Oase is not the club to visit.[/QUOTE]I had sampled Oase, Sharks and World before on Tuesday afternoons. Oase had, in the past, been the best for me. Anyway, I still had a good time with my 2 favorites. What I was griping about was that I had almost no naked bodies to ogle at in-between sessions.
[QUOTE=Ortos;1903961]Or, if you enter during afternoon and find a small and impoverished line-up at Oase, try to be patient and wait until 19.00 before you walk out the door.[/QUOTE]At 19.00 yesterday, I was already sound asleep in my hotel room. If I had been patient, I would probably have slept in the resting room, only to wake up at 4 am to depart! Thanks for the advice anyway; might well decide to test my endurance in a future trip.:)
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1903961]However, thinking back, I saw a significant number of covered up girls at both Oase and Sharks, so it is not something exclusive to one particular club.[/QUOTE]I was at Sharks this Wednesday afternoon and specifically looked out for covered up girls. Less than 20% wore accessories, as compared to about 90% in Oase on Tuesday afternoon.
By the way, longtime Oase girl Dahlia/Magda has just moved to Sharks. She was one of the covered up ones. Hope she does not spread this bad habit of the Oase girls to the Sharks girls.
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A few girls does look far better a bit covered up (Dee, Artemis being the arch example), but that is only when they wear corsets or sexy clothes. Not a towel. Towels are desperately a turn off for me at least.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1904211]I was at Sharks this Wednesday afternoon and specifically looked out for covered up girls. Less than 20% wore accessories, as compared to about 90% in Oase on Tuesday afternoon.
By the way, longtime Oase girl Dahlia/Magda has just moved to Sharks. She was one of the covered up ones. Hope she does not spread this bad habit of the Oase girls to the Sharks girls.[/QUOTE]I don't negotiate with towel wrapped girls. IMHO, towel wrapped girls rarely give descent services.
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I can understand that those girls who have something to hide wrap themselves in a towel.
But some pretty good girls do as well and I don't know why.
One example, sorry wrong thread, is Bianca at Sharks. On one visit, I never saw her w / o a towel. I thought she had a pretty face but did not ask her for a room because she always was in a towel.
On a subsequent visit, she still mostly had the towel on but took it off once in a while and I thought wow, great figure. And this time, when she asked me, I said fine lets go.
I don't think I would have been the only client she would have lost due to her towel wrap. Smart girls seem to have figured this out. I don't think any guy thinks "oh wow, I want to take that girl to the room, because that's the only way to see her nekkid". Some Sharks girls like Janine Evita, Aurelia (when she was there) hardly ever wear anything except their birthday suits, and they are glorious to look at when they walk (which for Janine is hardly). In fact, these girls should open their legs and play w / themselves or lightly pet other girls etc to get the males excited which leads to more rooms, lol. We know that in general, men respond to visuals.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1904252]I don't negotiate with towel wrapped girls. IMHO, towel wrapped girls rarely give descent services.[/QUOTE]Strange strategy. Some girls on some days are just cold. Why the he'll should girls wrapped in a towel or wearing a little clothing give bad service? There's no logic behind that.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1904378] There's no logic behind that.
HB.[/QUOTE]Must be overseas logic.
Nikki was wrapped in a towel most of the time 3 weeks ago, propably due to cold weather. Didn't bother me or influence the session quality.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1904252]I don't negotiate with towel wrapped girls. IMHO, towel wrapped girls rarely give descent services.[/QUOTE]It's sometimes the good girls IMHO that are reserved (by wrapping a towel around themselves) when waiting for a good client. And there's a reason why clients book these girls: good service!
I've had great sessions with a particular girl. We stayed in contact via Facebook and made appointments. If she showed up a little early or I was a little bit late due to being stuck in traffic, she would wear a towel in order to indicate to other men that she was not available.
I met her by chance because generally speaking she would be very busy and not hang around in the main area.
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If you are not a regular and have not seen the girl in a while, or if it is a new girl and you never saw her, then being toweled up can raise suspicions about her looks / condition, and you want to inspect the goods prior to booking.
But if it is a girl you knew and saw her fairly recently, then you know what she looks like. But I agree, no reason why toweling up changes service levels, that too in a short amount of time if you had sessioned with her recently.
Unless you equate toweling up with a desire to hide something, and extend that to an overall dishonesty - I don't subscribe to this theory myself, but I remember some commenters here said in the past that they would not go with girls because they lied about being Romanians, and if they lied about that one thing, why would they not cheat in their service? I thought it was a strange logic, but to each his own.
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Some recent Oase observations
First, thank you to Mauro for bringing back the still water. For the couple years, Oase only had sparkling water. When you asked for still water, they would give you the medium gas water instead of the full gas water. Now us tourists can finally drink the water here!
Line-up Verdict: Down. I found the line-up here during these last two months a bit disappointing compared to previous years. In previous years, I remember being overwhelmed with choice. During these past two months, I still managed to have a decent time, but my top choices were often limited to only 2-3 girls. If those 2-3 girls weren't there, I would have been in deep doo-doo. My observations are based on visits on every single day of the week over multiple weeks.
Kissing Verdict: Poor. Only 31% of the girls I tried in the past couple months gave DFK. Several more gave LFK but DFK seemed to be much more difficult to find than in past years. My DFK stats from previous years were usually more than a 60% success rate.
I wonder if the poor line-up is due to low business, perhaps resulting in part from a combination of football season and Ramadan? Several of my girls are away on holiday. Maybe more are away on holiday now due to slower business?
Pickier Girls: I personally witnessed 6 separate girls refusing to go the room with guys (usually due to the lack of anticipated extras or the guy being too difficult or something). I typically see one or two girls refusing guys, but witnessing this with 6 girls six different times? Girls seem definitely more choosy than in past years. What is strange is that business is slow for many of the girls but at the same time, I noticed a smaller line-up, so it seems to me that the top girls are doing quite well due to the decreased competition among the top girls, hence the ability of the top girls to be choosier.
I happened to be at Oase on the night that Romania played Albania. It was a funny sight in the Kino that night. The entire Kino was filled with Romanian girls watching soccer! I never thought I would see such a thing! Unfortunately for the girls, Romania lost that game 1-0. I have to say that the Romanian players looked like they were playing really well though, at least for the small bits I watched. I wonder what would have happened at Oase if Romania had won?
It's not the same getting a blow job in the kino while watching soccer. But it still feels just as good.
I was lucky to be in Oase on the evening of Friday, July 1st. A very special guest arrived that evening, a well-known former Oase WG. She no longer works in the clubs (although her friend continues to work at Oase). Now she only comes out for special engagements for special clients. Anyways, it was really good to see her and to be able to say Hi to her. Oase isn't the same without her, but I am happy that she has been able to move on with her life to something else. For those of you who were there on July 1st, you may know who I am talking about.
One funny thing I noticed while sitting at the Jacuzzi tables. This grandpa-looking guy is chatting up one of my favorite girls. He is giving her a pretty extensive interview and she is nodding and nodding and saying yes, yes, yes and so on. Finally the interview concludes and they go off to the room for an hour. Later, I'm talking to her about this guy and his whole interview. She explains that unbeknownst to the guy, she has already been to the room with this guy 5 or 6 times before (like once every 3-6 months) but the guy can't ever seem to remember her. So, every time her meets her, he conducts the same interview, she answers the same questions, and she doesn't let on that she has been in the room with him before. She already knows what he likes in the room and everything he wants, but every time the guy thinks he is going with her for the first time. I thought this was pretty funny. She says that she thinks maybe this is normal for the old men, maybe they can't remember very well but she just goes with the flow. Haha.
Conclusion: I have always been an ardent Oase-supporter and defender. But, I was really disappointed this June and July as compared to previous years. Yes, I still managed to have a good time but if the line-up deteriorates any further, we're going to have to activate an emergency "code red. ".
I did make a visit to Sharks on a Thursday (one of the Thursdays in June when it was unbearably hot). Unfortunately, Sharks is absolutely awful during heat waves. The building is not air conditioned. Yes, you can go to an air conditioned room (for example, one of the upstairs caves), but that only provides relief from the heat during your room time. The rest of the time in the lounge is insufferable. Sharks definitely had a larger line-up in terms of quantity but since I don't go there very often, it just doesn't have the same "at-home" feel for me as Oase since I already know everyone at Oase. Maybe if I visited Sharks more often, I could get more excited about Sharks. Unfortunately for me, I was more excited about Sharks upon my arrival than upon my departure, so I bought one of the multi-visit cards when I arrived, thinking that I would surely be visiting Sharks more after having been disappointed with Oase's line-up. But in the end, I ended up returning to Oase and I am now stuck with a Sharks multi-visit card that will take me forever to use up. Luckily, they don't expire.
Question: If I bring a guest with me to Sharks (a female guest for example), may I use my multi-visit card for both myself and my guest? I mean, will the receptionist punch two holes in my card for me and my guest or will the receptionist say that I can only use my card for one person each visit? The receptionist did tell me that I could give my card away to someone else (it is transferable), so I suspect that I should be able to use it during one visit for both myself and a guest. Anyone try this before?
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UH, thanks for the great report. The story about the old dude is funny. As for the girls and Romania playing, I posted the exact same comment a few weeks ago. On the day I visited, Romania played Switzerland (1-1 draw), but the kino was packed with Romanian girls hooting for their team, and the same exact girls were complaining an hour before that all the men were busy watching soccer and not going to the room, LOL. Actually, Romania scored the first goal as I recall and the girls were so excited but then the Swiss scored a goal and they were deflated a bit and dispersed. Pretty funny.
Too bad we missed each other by just a couple of days.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1904669]
Kissing Verdict: Poor. Only 31% of the girls I tried in the past couple months gave DFK. Several more gave LFK but DFK seemed to be much more difficult to find than in past years. My DFK stats from previous years were usually more than a 60% success rate.
[/QUOTE]Although 31% DFK is low for you, it is probably still slightly higher than average for Oase. Could your lower than usual success rate be due to different sessioning behavior from previous trips? When my favorites are missing, I spend more time outside of the room, and the amounts I spend are less, and that spending is distributed across a larger number girls.
Guessing 31% amounts to 4 out of 13. If so, how many of the 13 girls recognized you? In the past you've mentioned that you do long rooms and keep the girls that you like on retainer. Do you think any of these 13 girls had prior knowledge of your reputation? Or did any of the 13 observe evidence of your "positive interactions"? You mentioned only finding a "top 2-3 choices", so it sound likes many of your favorites were on holiday, and you didn't discover many new favorites.
By "positive interactions" I mean:
A customer who spends 30 minutes pre-and-post zimmer, with a top-earning, constantly-booked WG: customer is probably a platinum-level spender
Other neutral or negative interactions might be:
A customer who is ignored by all the girls and seen on the floor for 11 out of his 12 hours in the club: regular and not a big spender.
A customer who is besieged by WG after WG: first-time visitor, and potentially high-value prey!
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1904669]
Question: If I bring a guest with me to Sharks (a female guest for example), may I use my multi-visit card for both myself and my guest? I mean, will the receptionist punch two holes in my card for me and my guest or will the receptionist say that I can only use my card for one person each visit? The receptionist did tell me that I could give my card away to someone else (it is transferable), so I suspect that I should be able to use it during one visit for both myself and a guest. Anyone try this before?[/QUOTE]AFAIK you can use the card for somebody else as well.
HB.
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Can't remember the last time I had a non kissing girl in an hour booking. Have to choose the right girl. Eliz Czech has down graded from full DFK to light kissing. Some guy must be getting the special service. LOL.
As far as I am concerned, if girls want me to repeat they have to do best attempt at GFE. I won't pay 100 for hour of follow a procedure. Has to be fun
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Visiting Oase on Sat, 9th July
Hello folks,
I will be visiting Oase on Saturday, 9th July at around 5 pm. They have a cocktail night 6 pm onward. After reading recent posts, I have been able to zero down the names of 4 girls: Veronica (good at kissing with tongue, BBBJ), Elizabeth (Czech, wet BBBJ with ball licking), Diana (dom) and Daniella (pretty face). I hope I get to session with at least 2 of these 4 good performers recommended by fellow punters (not sure how to recognize these girls, maybe I will ask the reception to introduce them to me).
I understand that the definition of a good performer is subjective. Anyways, I would appreciate if fellow punters could recommend their favorite girls currently available at Oase.
P.S. This will be my first visit to an FKK.
Cheers!
JohnyBravo
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1904855]Can't remember the last time I had a non kissing girl in an hour booking.[/QUOTE]Has never ever happend to me. Can't imagine how a girl will survive more than 30 minutes in room with me without DFK.
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[quote=craiova;1904940]has never ever happend to me. Can't imagine how a girl will survive more than 30 minutes in room with me without dfk.[/quote]exactly! .
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Tuesday 5th July.
Third day of Hesse FKK trip. Liked the club despite all the tacky statues. Spent some time in garden, then approached by two Italian girls, after a strong pitch to take both of them, they eventually accepted that the two of them would be too much for someone of my advanced years. Took one of them to bed on top of hill for a frankly disappointing session, all a bit mechanical. After a rest, some food and another stint on a lounger in the garden, I met Helen from Greece and went to an inside room. A reasonable session with some attempted upselling, but at least she made an effort.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1904940]Has never ever happend to me. Can't imagine how a girl will survive more than 30 minutes in room with me without DFK.[/QUOTE]The intended meaning was that girls may be more readily giving kissing if they know the guy will spend more than a 50 for good service.
If a session is going badly, I don't stay even for 30 minutes. Tend to leave at abiut 15 minutes or less. However no disasters recently.
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From recent reports on this forum and comment feedback from German regulars of the Hessen FKK scene that Oase is not the club to go to right now.
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Don't read the forums then. Oase LU is and has been strong for the past year. And better than in the past. Could be it was just slow during Ramadan though. And service is quite good from most. 70-80% seems to kiss as far as I know.
Judging by the list JB zeroed it down to, I think his trust in this forum is way too strong. None of those are on my Oase top 10 this year, only trust yourself dude.
A service list without may, Denice or Vera seems crazy. A looks list without Andre, Chayenne, Emma, Adele, Szanett or even Laura is also crazy and all these do great service too.
What planet are you forum people from?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1905326]From recent reports on this forum and comment feedback from German regulars of the Hessen FKK scene that Oase is not the club to go to right now.[/QUOTE]A man of your experience in FKKing, going back several years (and including how many club visits, like grains of sand on the beach?): You should know better than anybody that the only true way to know whether or not Oase is worth visiting now is to visit yourself! Nothing is better than personal observation and first-hand assessment of the LUs.
For example, I read the same stuff on the forum about Oase being sub-standard and not worth visiting as you do. But I went myself to check it out and discovered that, even though the LU at Oase is NOT up to it's normal (even summertime) standard, as brilliantly reported this past few days by Ultra-happy (see his report below), this club still has postive aspects (also within its impoverished line-up) that would negate your conclusion stated in the above quote.
Best advice: Take any and all reports on Internet with a certain degree of truth vs doubt and go look yourself. In my experience it would be best to visit the club right now on a Fri or Sat.
But even the most die-hard Oase loyal fan would agree the club's line-up is down, but not out. Another point: Besides Sharks in the Frankfurt area, what other club is there to really visit: Palace? World? Compared to those two, only Oase and perhaps Mainhatten offer themselves as viable alternative clubs with decent LUs to Darmstadt.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1905363]Don't read the forums then. Oase LU is and has been strong for the past year. And better than in the past. Could be it was just slow during ramadan though. And service is quite good from most. 70-80% seems to kiss as far as I know.
Judging by the list JB zeroed it down to, I think his trust in this forum is way too strong. None of those are on my Oase top 10 this year... only trust yourself dude...
A service list without may, denice or vera seems crazy. A looks list without andre, chayenne, emma, adelle, szanett or even laura is also crazy... and all these do great service too...
What planet are you forum people from?[/QUOTE]Sorry but I don't understand the comment about Ramadan, mostly 90% of the girls in FKK are from Romania and obviously not Muslim ate all.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1905363]
A service list without may, denice or vera seems crazy. A looks list without andre, chayenne, emma, adelle, szanett or even laura is also crazy... and all these do great service too...
What planet are you forum people from?[/QUOTE]May Andre Chayenne Laura "great" service? What planet are you from.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1905540]Sorry but I don't understand the comment about Ramadan, mostly 90% of the girls in FKK are from Romania and obviously not Muslim ate all.[/QUOTE]Perhaps because a lot of (extremely hypocrite!) customers [I]do[/I] observe ramadan?
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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1905565]Perhaps because a lot of (extremely hypocrite!) customers [I]do[/I] observe ramadan?[/QUOTE]Not really. By observing it during the day, they are promised their seven virgins when they go to heaven. But for here and now, they come to Sharks in the night, as heaven is a while away.
PS - lol
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Pending Visit to FKKland
In my last visits to FKK Oase in 2012 I had a high percentage of upselling and poor service. I am certain things would have gotten worse four years later. I have decided to revisit FKKland because I believe it has the most stunners in the non sex prison world. In order to improve my experience I will compile a list of good performing girls based on reports and, in the FKK, avoid girls who are too eager to start the session during the pre-zimmer interview.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1905590]Not really. By observing it during the day, they are promised their seven virgins when they go to heaven. But for here and now, they come to Sharks in the night, as heaven is a while away.
PS - lol[/QUOTE]Actually it's 72 virgins. Do you think these motherfuckers would kill themselves or get themselves killed for a measly 7 virgins?
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[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1905558]May Andre Chayenne Laura "great" service? What planet are you from.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I was just born on Venus. The planet of love. So the girls love it. Who knows right? Ymmv?
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[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1905558]May Andre Chayenne Laura "great" service? What planet are you from.[/QUOTE]You should read his post again. He had some girls on a service list and some on a looks list. You don't always get both, and obviously looks and service level depends on his personal spec and personal expectations.
While I may not agree with him for all girls, it is no big deal.
I like Philippina May a lot as she is so enthusiastic, and would visit to see her, even if my favourites brunette Carla and Michaela are away.
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True, no need to agree on all. But I find it weired if there are absolutely zero correlations. While I had two lists there, they were not set in stone. I could have switched some to the other list, but I feel they have highest rating the category I put them in. Doesn't mean some of the lookers doesn't have a high score in service or vice versa, just a fraction higher in the one I put them in. Now I'm just rambling again though.
About ramadan. Yes hardly many girls are muslims, but there are less punters in someclubs because lots of punters are. So girls must notice and probably feel June is a bad month. I don't know though. But I've allways considerred may / July to the best months and June / August to be the worst in the summer.
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Something I notice with yall defenders. No real reports. Ortos said he had 10 great sessions, names? Besides couples girls.
General staments with no real reports to back it up. Like percentange of kissing, but no names if whi does or not.
Some commonality to those has recently written less than steller reports. Have experience visiting mirods of clubs. So, can notice the relative differences.
Arn't yall's club mainly Oase?
What other clubs have yall visited recently?
Who are the new stars? Any besides girls repeates mentioned?
Any lookers? Lookers that provides good to great serices?
So, all we get as reponses are generalized statements, some percentages. Pretty useless if you tell me.
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Hey PL,
Funny enough that's exactly how we find your blablabla "reports" in the Oase thread that started this last discussion. How about YOU give us a couple reports about what went wrong at Oase, including a couple of names? Is that too much to ask?
You are rapidly becoming a big joke in the Hessen threads.
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Forget this club. It is not what it was
I revisited Oase on Thursday. Really things are bad now. Breakfast selection has been reduced (no cereal for example) and food quality is very poor (so salty). Similar deterioration has happened with the girls. Less selection, nearly all Romanian, and very unimaginative service. Nobody looked like they were up for fun or really having it. The garden is still great but I don't think I will be returning here for quite a while.
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Strong rumour from reliable source that slim blonde Optifik Christina is carrying a little extra and now working in Rom. May have to visit some time.
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[QUOTE=LondonTraveller;1905966]I revisited Oase on Thursday. Really things are bad now. Breakfast selection has been reduced (no cereal for example) and food quality is very poor (so salty). Similar deterioration has happened with the girls. Less selection, nearly all Romanian, and very unimaginative service. Nobody looked like they were up for fun or really having it. The garden is still great but I don't think I will be returning here for quite a while.[/QUOTE]Thursdays have always been an off day for this club what with the girls dressing up and all.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1906176]Strong rumour from reliable source that slim blonde Optifik Christina is carrying a little extra and now working in Rom. May have to visit some time.[/QUOTE]FreeDude reported seeing her at reception. She had been working at Mainhattan with another ex-Oase WG Bella.
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PL: Whatever floats your boat. The forum is just a hype war anyway. 'Reports' are usually just the same gibberish with
"then I met her at the bar and she smiled at me. I got a boner and we went to the room. She gave me a blowjob, I fucked her and I felt a tinkly feeling in my left nut as I was about to cum. But then suddenly as if out of the blue, she kissed me on my lower lip and not on the right side of my upper lip. I was so struck by the moment that I had no option but to bust my right nut instead of my left, and then I got angry at her because I had saved up more sperm in my left nut than my right. So I was disappointed and left the room early. But afterwards I saw the same girl again and I was heartbroken when I saw her sitting next to some other guy holding his penis, and I am certain she was also touch his left nut. Guys, guys, what does that mean to you? I ask you forum experts, please help! Why did she play with the left nut of this other guy, but with me it was my right nut that got busted? Help is much appreciated. My left nut is now twice as big as my right, and I need to bust it soon. Do you know if there are girls at other clubs who can help me with my left nut? At this club all the girls only let me bust my right nut". Anyway... maybe I should start writing more of these after all.. what do you think?
LT: So by less selection, you mean less nationalities to choose from, as if the country of origin is the main important factor in diversity? And you need to gather different tokens for your new Pokemon Go creatures? To be found inside different FKK girls from different countries. With the recent Pokemon Go hype, I can truly submit to that ofcourse.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1906274]FreeDude reported seeing her at reception. She had been working at Mainhattan with another ex-Oase WG Bella.[/QUOTE]Ex Bella with weight now, ex Andrea blue eyes and piercing on mouth, and another blond, white skin, with a mouse face, were at Mainhattan for birthday on Saturday, and since IAA, but no blond Cristina.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1906274]FreeDude reported seeing her at reception. She had been working at Mainhattan with another ex-Oase WG Bella.[/QUOTE]Not useful to repeat and old April Fool's day post. I am talking current info.
My source has also been to MH and reported the line up is not for him or me, he knows my taste reliably. He did not see Christina there recently but did see her at Rom.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1905935]Something I notice with yall defenders. No real reports. Ortos said he had 10 great sessions, names? Besides couples girls.
General staments with no real reports to back it up. Like percentange of kissing, but no names if whi does or not.
Some commonality to those has recently written less than steller reports. Have experience visiting mirods of clubs. So, can notice the relative differences.
Arn't yall's club mainly Oase?
What other clubs have yall visited recently?
Who are the new stars? Any besides girls repeates mentioned?
Any lookers? Lookers that provides good to great serices?
So, all we get as reponses are generalized statements, some percentages. Pretty useless if you tell me.[/QUOTE]Your posts could go back to under moderation if you insist on writing crap English on purpose.
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Just a quick type on the phone. Yup the typo's are there didn't bother correcting / no time. Just making some points.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1906461]Just a quick type on the phone. Yup the typo's are there didn't bother correcting / no time. Just making some points.[/QUOTE]You should know it is not accidental typos that I am picking on. I did say deliberate.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1905421]
But even the most die-hard Oase loyal fan would agree the club's line-up is down, but not out. Another point: Besides Sharks in the Frankfurt area, what other club is there to really visit: Palace? World? Compared to those two, only Oase and perhaps Mainhatten offer themselves as viable alternative clubs with decent LUs to Darmstadt.[/QUOTE]Someone reported some pretty good new Russian girls at World on Saturday. Any club can improve at least for a short time.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1906543]Someone reported some pretty good new Russian girls at World on Saturday. Any club can improve at least for a short time.[/QUOTE]Indeed, but go check it out yourself, okay, and then tell me World has improved enough for the likes of you and I, true "Zug-Freunde", to select this club on a Weekend night over Sharks or Oase. Too many times, I've made the "schlepp" to World, paid the entry fee and been burned by a shitty line-up. Love the garden, love the club (don't love the rooms, however!), but I need the steady promise of a decent line-up to invest my precious monger euro and clock on a dodgy proposition (for the past two year at least) like World.
Rumours of Russians girls are nice, but they remain rumours until you see and experience them yourslef.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1906626]Indeed, but go check it out yourself, okay, and then tell me World has improved enough for the likes of you and I, true "Zug-Freunde", to select this club on a Weekend night over Sharks or Oase. Too many times, I've made the "schlepp" to World, paid the entry fee and been burned by a shitty line-up. Love the garden, love the club (don't love the rooms, however!), but I need the steady promise of a decent line-up to invest my precious monger euro and clock on a dodgy proposition (for the past two year at least) like World.
Rumours of Russians girls are nice, but they remain rumours until you see and experience them yourslef.[/QUOTE]Yes, believe me, I am a sceptical type till the evidence is strong.
However I allow for the possibility from reliable sources. TT123 reported no one special on same day I think. LOL.
I am so skeptical, I have not been to World for over 2 years.
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Christina
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1906176]Strong rumour from reliable source that slim blonde Optifik Christina is carrying a little extra and now working in Rom. May have to visit some time.[/QUOTE]Working in Rom as in Romania? Or Oase?
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[QUOTE=Oregon97;1906684]Working in Rom as in Romania? Or Oase?[/QUOTE]Think Master Syzy was referring to FKK Rom aprox. 22 km from Darmstadt. Surely Romania would be too far for him to hunt down a girl, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Exodus8;1906686]Think Master Syzy was referring to FKK Rom aprox. 22 km from Darmstadt. Surely Romania would be too far for him to hunt down a girl, LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes sorry about that. I did not mean to be so assuming. FKK Rom (pronounced like Rome) in Muenster (should be "u" with am Umlaut) I believe or near, its about 20 km East of Darmstadt. I have not visited there yet but my buddies did.
Girls cannot behave wickedly like this back home in Romania. Christina is such a shy and proper girl ;) , but she likes living in Germany, she says. Maybe its the freedom. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1906176]Strong rumour from reliable source that slim blonde Optifik Christina is carrying a little extra and now working in Rom. May have to visit some time.[/QUOTE]I also heard that Christina is at Rom. I am not sure when I will be able to go check this out. Rom is a cheaper entry club which is conducive for a visit for the men.
As for the girls it just 80 euro for the girls at Rom compared to 100 euro entry for the Sharks.
I also heard of the good looking new Russian girls at World. One guy spent 950 euro on one of them on a single visit. Must have been some extras involved like CIM and anal I expect. That is usually how I notch up 950-1000 euro on girls in a single visit when I am always busting a nut in a girl's asshole or letting rip in her mouth.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1906455]Your posts could go back to under moderation if you insist on writing crap English on purpose.[/QUOTE]Very gangsta, eh wot?
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Straight out of compton baby.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg4NkA1B9Pc[/URL]
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The thing is just that such language is not seen as 'gangsta' in europe. European gangsters (criminals) are much more cold and cynical, and have a tendency to talk to your head untill it explodes, you loose focus, and suddenly they rob you. But the language is normally good. A bad language would create distance immediately, so that is not smart. But american slang like that is seen as immature and how 14 year olds talk when they reach puberty not knowing what happened to them. So they want to revolt against themselves and their new hormones.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1906626]Indeed, but go check it out yourself, okay, and then tell me World has improved enough for the likes of you and I, true "Zug-Freunde", to select this club on a Weekend night over Sharks or Oase. Too many times, I've made the "schlepp" to World, paid the entry fee and been burned by a shitty line-up. Love the garden, love the club (don't love the rooms, however!), but I need the steady promise of a decent line-up to invest my precious monger euro and clock on a dodgy proposition (for the past two year at least) like World.
Rumours of Russians girls are nice, but they remain rumours until you see and experience them yourslef.[/QUOTE]I am a regular at World, have not notice any different in the LU over the last weeks, but if you consider LU, atmosphere especially by good weather and quality of the food it is always my favorite club (even if some monger are sometimes a bit aggressive about that meaning). Saw some new girls brunette style, may be beginners but have not tried any of them.
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Christina
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1906692]Yes sorry about that. I did not mean to be so assuming. FKK Rom (pronounced like Rome) in Muenster (should be "u" with am Umlaut) I believe or near, its about 20 km East of Darmstadt. I have not visited there yet but my buddies did.
Girls cannot behave wickedly like this back home in Romania. Christina is such a shy and proper girl ;) , but she likes living in Germany, she says. Maybe its the freedom. LOL.[/QUOTE]OK thanks. Seems like a nice club.
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[QUOTE=Oregon97;1907256]OK thanks. Seems like a nice club.[/QUOTE]Try it, many German men (roemer forum) are complaining about the over evaluation of Shark for many months which I fully support.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1907656]Try it, many German men (roemer forum) are complaining about the over evaluation of Shark for many months which I fully support.[/QUOTE]What is the problem if someone if someone is very enthusiastic about one club, be it Sharks, Oase, World or whatever?. This must be complained about?
Its very easy for someone to get stuck on a club where they have several favourite girls, or just one, or perhaps live near by. I used to frequent the Palace when I stayed so close to it.
I rate clubs by how many extra exciting girls I found there, up to about 6 which is usually plenty.
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Sorry about that last post. I think was accidental reposting an old post or there is currently a forum fault showing old posts as recent. Puzzled.
Mabe it is just that no one posted anything for several days. LOL
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July 9th
I visited Oase last Saturday, my first time in the club this year. Slim pickings on arrival. 6 or 7 girls present during my stay that were calling my attention. Weak lineup when it comes to optic standouts albeit many decent ones. Stayed in the club for 12 hours but only went with one girl. Enjoyed the sun, swimmingpool and football. Picked Romanian Ina. Cute face, short ash-blond hair and natural body on the petite side. She looked really German, which she apparently gets from a lot of people. Had a standard 50 E session, she really came through with good service. DFK, hugging, very friendly attitude in the room. No english spoken. Planned to do a couple of more sessions come late night but opted to leave for central Frankfurt to visit the RLD.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1906176]Strong rumour from reliable source that slim blonde Optifik Christina is carrying a little extra and now working in Rom. May have to visit some time.[/QUOTE]She's been there for about two months and yes, she put on some weight.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;1909031]I visited Oase last Saturday, my first time in the club this year. Slim pickings on arrival. 6 or 7 girls present during my stay that were calling my attention. Weak lineup when it comes to optic standouts albeit many decent ones. Stayed in the club for 12 hours but only went with one girl. Enjoyed the sun, swimmingpool and football. Picked Romanian Ina. Cute face, short ash-blond hair and natural body on the petite side. She looked really German, which she apparently gets from a lot of people. Had a standard 50 E session, she really came through with good service. DFK, hugging, very friendly attitude in the room. No english spoken. Planned to do a couple of more sessions come late night but opted to leave for central Frankfurt to visit the RLD.[/QUOTE]You did not say what time you arrived, but recently I commented that the evening shift of girls have been starting to arrive at 7 PM to 8 PM. The club has changed from when there was a very good line up by 5. 30 PM. Oase seems to be coming more a "night time" club, in that my last visits have found the club very quiet indeed up until 7 PM or later.
The number of girls showing up early has dwindled with a decrease in customers. I don't recommend to arrive too early unless you have specific girls in mind or the weather is excellent, currently. The line up can be thin on certain days, like a Saturday. Perhaps week days will be better early, I am not sure. I think a Friday was a little better.
I managed to find one girl to do Saturday day time, an old favorite. Another possible girl was hardly sighted. I think she must have been booked for hours. Once more of my favourites return from holidays, I will be happy. Perhaps they have already. Despite overall club attendance down a bit, both girls and customers, the very top girls can be very heavily booked on certain days, or even booked for several hours customers.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1909471]You did not say what time you arrived, but recently I commented that the evening shift of girls have been starting to arrive at 7 PM to 8 PM. The club has changed from when there was a very good line up by 5. 30 PM. Oase seems to be coming more a "night time" club, in that my last visits have found the club very quiet indeed up until 7 PM or later.
The number of girls showing up early has dwindled with a decrease in customers. I don't recommend to arrive too early unless you have specific girls in mind or the weather is excellent, currently. [/QUOTE]I arrived 11 am and left half past ten. I had read on this thread that the LU is weak in the day shift so no real surprise or problem with that. I picked Oase over Sharks mainly for the possibility to relax in the garden. I would say the better looking ones arrived even a little bit earlier than 7 or 8 pm. However some of the best looking gave me some cold vibes (possibly shark types).
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In my visits the line up was not quite as good as last year. Some girls gone that I used to session regularly, e. G. Christina, Beatrice, Ina (Lat), Elisa (Gha). Also other pretty girls missing like Tatiana, Lexi, Kim/Claudia/Aida, Elizabeth (Hun), etc. Then Michaela and Carla away, I took a recent break from Oase myself. Some pretty girls remain that I did not even try yet, waiting too long for the right vibe. LOL. Hopefully some more new pretty girls to arrive soon. I think Philippina May is very nice, for example.
It tends to happen at every club that my favourites drop out of site. Then have to wait for the returns or develop some new favourites.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1909377]She's been there for about two months and yes, she put on some weight.
HB.[/QUOTE]Blond Bella also took weight with Mainhattan foods, rather than only 1 dog meal.
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Zlatan: you just got to break the ice. A few of the stunners do give of slightly cold vibes. But only untill you know them. They could perhaps smile more to everyone. But when working like this, I guess that can be hard day after day.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1909596]Zlatan: you just got to break the ice. A few of the stunners do give of slightly cold vibes. But only untill you know them. They could perhaps smile more to everyone. But when working like this, I guess that can be hard day after day.[/QUOTE]Just adding to that.
When we see girls with plenty of regular customers or have long bookings, it's usually a good sign. The best girls tend to be the busy ones, unless they are just too gorgeous and everyone wants them (unlikely). However some customers want exceptional skills and some don't.
When I see pretty girls with not many customers, I don't know what to think. Could be just a relative unknown girl or returning after a long time away, or could be a girl with heavy upsell, or gives the wrong vibe. I often have little clue if never really spoke to the girl much.
Top girls may not be really looking for 30 minute bookings. They can earn more by taking other customers, through avoiding big time wastage between bookings. Its not quite like ordering a taxi where the driver has no clue how much you are going to spend.
Could Ina have been the Latvian one, or a new one Romanian?
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I'm not been to Oase for long time, but just want to confirm Syzygies' observation that in all clubs girls who are busy are a good bet (not a certainty) since they are popular with a wide range of customers.
The exception to this is any girl who hunts men for 30 minute sessions and doesn't get repeat customers. Some such girls can be the busiest if they are good hunters.
Another exception can be drop dead gorgeous girls who are underemployed simply because their beauty intimidates potential customers. I recently saw one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen, but she had almost no customers
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1909656]
Another exception can be drop dead gorgeous girls who are underemployed simply because their beauty intimidates potential customers. I recently saw one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen, but she had almost no customers[/QUOTE]This one makes me laugh. I never got intimidated by sheer beauty. Occasionally I found it difficult to get to a beauty if she was always busy talking to someone else or never staying still in one spot, for a moment to allow for easy approach. Still I have been known to chase a beauty around the club immediately after spotting her, to get an opportunity to ask for a session as soon as possible, like Valentina for example. Being too shy is not wise. I prefer to chase girls rather than have them come hassling me. Most Oase girls would know this. If you never approach a super beauty, she may disappear soon, and you may regret it.
Once I was in World and saw a stunning ass walk by a couple of times. Even was late, I had to chase her for a last session. Was Catalina. Her body was a 10. Great GFE session too. Rarely do I regret the super beauties (except for Bella at Sharks was a severe bomb out after 15 minutes. No matter). I tried the famous Marie 3 times before I was convinced, enough was enough. LOL Each session was worse than the previous, instead of expected improvement. I tried Christina several times, and the sessions did get better and better.
I never saw Elizabeth (Hun) underemployed just because she was a beauty. She could look in a man's eyes, and utilise her tits, in such a way that many just could not escape. Yes, a really shy beauty can lack customers I guess. Is it intimidation? I don't think so. Maybe some guys believe the girl is too aloof and in her own world rather than putting on a lustful act, and being provocative.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1909602]
Top girls may not be really looking for 30 minute bookings. They can earn more by taking other customers, through avoiding big time wastage between bookings. Its not quite like ordering a taxi where the driver has no clue how much you are going to spend.[/QUOTE]Really? So why give them this information beforehand? Why not say that you will start with half an hour, and then if she is nice, you will extend? Or if you feel you have the power for a longer stay, you will do a longer stay? Or some other reason. Then it kinda turns into a 'taxi-sale' don't you think?
And I second what optimist says. Some of the top fkk girls currently working like Carrie (artemis) and Chayenne (Oase) sometimes have days with almost no customers. But it hardly means they do bad business. Some of the best sex I've ever had were with these girls, but they probably both intimidate lots of guys I assume...
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1909596]Zlatan: you just got to break the ice. A few of the stunners do give of slightly cold vibes. But only untill you know them. They could perhaps smile more to everyone. But when working like this, I guess that can be hard day after day.[/QUOTE]That is true. Optics is normally the most important quality for me so I am not really that afraid to approach stunners. However, sometimes I tend to prefer to pick some girl with looks that goes well with some fantasy I want to indulge in (eg. Imagine she is a neighboor or co-worker). This means that I might occasionally favor a girl with a more western / northern european face. The best looking girls in Oase last weekend looked really typically Romanian to me which made them a little less interesting especially as they were not really that stunning.
Syzygies: I am quite sure Ina told me she is Romanian but my German is not good at all so maybe I misunderstood. She barely knew a word of English. Short petite girl with tiny natural tits. Ash-blonde / ginger hair I think. Cute face and just a tiny bit alternative hairstyle, short in the neck and bangs a little bit longer on one side.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1909656]I'm not been to Oase for long time, but just want to confirm Syzygies' observation that in all clubs girls who are busy are a good bet (not a certainty) since they are popular with a wide range of customers.
The exception to this is any girl who hunts men for 30 minute sessions and doesn't get repeat customers. Some such girls can be the busiest if they are good hunters.
Another exception can be drop dead gorgeous girls who are underemployed simply because their beauty intimidates potential customers. I recently saw one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen, but she had almost no customers[/QUOTE]For some clubs if you need to be more cautious (those are ones I avoid as a non-frequenter). Don't like negotiations or surprises in the room.
For example, I walk into LR and session after another and all turn out to be great sessions. No weeding, asking others, or checking to see how busy they were. It's so happens couple of my picks happens to be the busiest.
Same for other clubs that my stats has been consistently good no matter the pick. PHG in 2012-13 was ideal. Hardly had a bad session on several visits with mainly great services. GT is a club I'm fully confident that no crap session will arrise and on the avg the service will be good. Just a busy club, so many girls are busy.
Service doesn't always correlate to business. If the club is not all that busy (or just abundance of girls around) it's easily noticeable, can be possible busier ones are less likely to be YMMV with good service.
Sure, the girl's vibe, her activeness in pursuit in a good approach fashion will raise the willingness of more punters to session. Of course reputation rides on it as well.
I have seen girls that service isn't so high, but high lookers that gets picked a lot. Usually, longer rooms are more of an indicator of higher services, but not always. Girls that offer good GFE type services are usually getting long rooms.
Also, there is no direct correlation to a girl being booked most of the day to services. I have met girls that were high lookers with punters buying most of the club time for that reason.
Observing for how busy the girl's are is not something I do as I don't have time to stand around to see who is busy or not and most importantly the girl has to be my type looks wise.
I just go for the most attractive girls and see how the stats goes. If several sessions were good with those I find the most attractive, the club goes on top of my list for revisits.
The clubs I recommend are the clubs I run into the most attractive girls that offers good to great services. Can't get any more reasonable than that.
By my approach, I'm testing out the waters and also raising my chance to run into a gem.
I don't bother with girl list or recommendations. Just look for who is the most attractive. Doesn't matter if they are the prettiest for approach, it's p6.
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Blond Latvian angel Ina could speak English, even it was more enjoyable in Russian for intimacy.
Ex Katalina World was at Sharks on April, now at home, but wish to meet her again soon in Zurich. More than her ass, beautiful face with wonderful eyes and what a classy sophisticated care, a real top class GF.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1910060]
Ex Katalina World was at Sharks on April, now at home, but wish to meet her again soon in Zurich. More than her ass, beautiful face with wonderful eyes and what a classy sophisticated care, a real top class GF.[/QUOTE]She is currently working at Club Globe in Zurich. Visited her last week there. Still top class (except her tits).
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[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;1910272]She is currently working at Club Globe in Zurich. Visited her last week there. Still top class (except her tits).[/QUOTE]Last week, but not anymore now, but I agree Kate / Katalina is still top class, her belly and tits are perfect for me, as I said to her, nothing to change, even she did after Sharks, just staying the same smart class woman. Look forward her return.
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Kate, is she the moroccan / german?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1910348]Kate, is she the moroccan / german?[/QUOTE]Other one, Syzy was talking about ex World 2011 one.
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[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;1909818]That is true. Optics is normally the most important quality for me so I am not really that afraid to approach stunners. However, sometimes I tend to prefer to pick some girl with looks that goes well with some fantasy I want to indulge in (eg. Imagine she is a neighboor or co-worker). This means that I might occasionally favor a girl with a more western / northern european face. The best looking girls in Oase last weekend looked really typically Romanian to me which made them a little less interesting especially as they were not really that stunning.
Syzygies: I am quite sure Ina told me she is Romanian but my German is not good at all so maybe I misunderstood. She barely knew a word of English. Short petite girl with tiny natural tits. Ash-blonde / ginger hair I think. Cute face and just a tiny bit alternative hairstyle, short in the neck and bangs a little bit longer on one side.[/QUOTE]Its OK. The Latvian Ina speaks good English so obviously a different girl.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1910311]Last week, but not anymore now, but I agree Kate / Katalina is still top class, her belly and tits are perfect for me, as I said to her, nothing to change, even she did after Sharks, just staying the same smart class woman. Look forward her return.[/QUOTE]She seems to lengthen her Globe tour, I wish until next week end.
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Sabrina (Bulgaria) ?
Is Sabrina (Bulgarian) the dark haired seen these days in Oase?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1910348]Kate, is she the moroccan / german?[/QUOTE]If the Kate you reference is the Kate that Sirioja mentions then you have been another victim of Sirioja's randomly writing about any club or girls he likes in any thread he likes with no consequences or sense of order.
The Kate that Sirioja mentions is a Romanian that is currently working at FKK Globe in Zurich in Switzerland. So you may be forgiven the confusion that Sirioja sows like wheat in a field.
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Waste of Money
I had my first visit to an FKK in four years. I was going to write a long report on my visit to Oase yesterday but will not waste my time and that of the readers. Better facilities, much worse service. Quality wise the girls were just a little below that of my last visits. I interviewed all the doable girls, some said they were Italian, Russian etc. But were all Romanians. Pre session interviews were like - DATY pay extra, kissing pay extra, touching breast pay extra (discovered during my first session, did not think I had to negotiate to suck nipples). All 4 sessions were disasters your dick too big, my knee hurts, my back hurts, when you come? Even when I promised a 1 HR session if they were good; no doubt all my sessions were half HR. One of my sessions was with Alexia with glasses recommended by some bloke on this board. In short my experience at Oase was worse than that of my last visit to Palace in 2011 when I vowed never to return.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1910948]If the Kate you reference is the Kate that Sirioja mentions then you have been another victim of Sirioja's randomly writing about any club or girls he likes in any thread he likes with no consequences or sense of order.
The Kate that Sirioja mentions is a Romanian that is currently working at FKK Globe in Zurich in Switzerland. So you may be forgiven the confusion that Sirioja sows like wheat in a field.[/QUOTE]I thought it was the Kate from ACA!
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Forgot to add that I have no beef with Oase management. They refurbished the place nicely, are probably trying to improve the experience of customers (though not food wise) and perhaps have no control over the attitude of the girls.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1911088]I had my first visit to an FKK in four years. I was going to write a long report on my visit to Oase yesterday but will not waste my time and that of the readers. Better facilities, much worse service. Quality wise the girls were just a little below that of my last visits. I interviewed all the doable girls, some said they were Italian, Russian etc. But were all Romanians. Pre session interviews were like - DATY pay extra, kissing pay extra, touching breast pay extra (discovered during my first session, did not think I had to negotiate to suck nipples). All 4 sessions were disasters your dick too big, my knee hurts, my back hurts, when you come? Even when I promised a 1 HR session if they were good; no doubt all my sessions were half HR. One of my sessions was with Alexia with glasses recommended by some bloke on this board. In short my experience at Oase was worse than that of my last visit to Palace in 2011 when I vowed never to return.[/QUOTE]Did you also visit Sharks in your this visit? If Yes, How would you compare your expereince of Sharks against that of OASE?
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1911090]I thought it was the Kate from ACA![/QUOTE]I miss her, I thought she would be my more than 50 rooms girl, really nice behavior and sexy, since September, but I m happy for her if she stopped, she deserves a better life. A new Kate now, not the one Piston looks for.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1911088]I had my first visit to an FKK in four years. I was going to write a long report on my visit to Oase yesterday but will not waste my time and that of the readers. Better facilities, much worse service. Quality wise the girls were just a little below that of my last visits. I interviewed all the doable girls, some said they were Italian, Russian etc. But were all Romanians. Pre session interviews were like - DATY pay extra, kissing pay extra, touching breast pay extra (discovered during my first session, did not think I had to negotiate to suck nipples). All 4 sessions were disasters your dick too big, my knee hurts, my back hurts, when you come? Even when I promised a 1 HR session if they were good; no doubt all my sessions were half HR. One of my sessions was with Alexia with glasses recommended by some bloke on this board. In short my experience at Oase was worse than that of my last visit to Palace in 2011 when I vowed never to return.[/QUOTE]First of all congrats 4 sessions I don't know how old you are but it is not bad, quite surprised by your comments, I am often in Oase and usually getting a good service. May be you dick is really big and you selected too young girls. As a regular I never pay 50 euros and always ask the girl in the room to provide me a good service, I also notice that more and more often they prefer today to give me nice BJ than to have sex which is not a problem for me. Never had a girl who refused me to kiss her nipples or touch her everywhere.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1911186]First of all congrats 4 sessions I don't know how old you are but it is not bad, quite surprised by your comments, I am often in Oase and usually getting a good service. May be you dick is really big and you selected too young girls. As a regular I never pay 50 euros and always ask the girl in the room to provide me a good service, I also notice that more and more often they prefer today to give me nice BJ than to have sex which is not a problem for me. Never had a girl who refused me to kiss her nipples or touch her everywhere.[/QUOTE]Actually they were not all complete sessions in that I did not take them all to fruition. I am on the other side of fifty. I chose those I thought to be the hottest girls in the place and yes they were young. I promised them all a 1 HR session if they were good in the zimmer. I love BJs and Alexia was quite good at that but sucked at FS and I must have my FS in multiple positions to be satisfied. Looking forward to my first ever visit to Sharks tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1911233]Actually they were not all complete sessions in that I did not take them all to fruition. I am on the other side of fifty. I chose those I thought to be the hottest girls in the place and yes they were young. I promised them all a 1 HR session if they were good in the zimmer. I love BJs and Alexia was quite good at that but sucked at FS and I must have my FS in multiple positions to be satisfied. Looking forward to my first ever visit to Sharks tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Do report on how your trip and experience to Sharks was in detail. Will help.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1910948]of Sirioja's randomly writing about any club or girls he likes in any thread he likes with no consequences or sense of order.[/QUOTE]He is a disciple of Jacques Prévert, and his poesy posts are thus 'listes ŕ la Prévert'.
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Except Jacques Prévert did actually know how to write correctly.
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Les Feuilles Mortes rewritings into English are a prime example of lost in translation.
Sorry to continue the offtopic.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1911540]Except Jacques Prvert did actually know how to write correctly.[/QUOTE]I work hard with girls to get the best from the prettiest, like I did with Kate Aca, and never go with ugly fat. Also to improve my English, Bub, that s why I go for private lessons every week end with prettiest Romanian GF, 4 days this week end before ironman holidays.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1911233]Actually they were not all complete sessions in that I did not take them all to fruition. I am on the other side of fifty. I chose those I thought to be the hottest girls in the place and yes they were young. I promised them all a 1 HR session if they were good in the zimmer. I love BJs and Alexia was quite good at that but sucked at FS and I must have my FS in multiple positions to be satisfied. Looking forward to my first ever visit to Sharks tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Some girls can earn 2000 or even more euros per day so even you proposed to them a 1 hour session it will not change their life, hope you will get a good day in Shark what was never the case for me. This club is too dark inside for me and so make it difficult to choose the right girls, also I don t know why I have some problems with the global atmosphere of this club like Artemis in Berlin.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1911544]Les Feuilles Mortes rewritings into English are a prime example of lost in translation.[/QUOTE]Look, he has just obliged with his rendering of Autumn Leaves. I only needed to cut off 3 words to make it fit the tune!
I work with girls
to get the best
from the pret-tiest,
like I did
with Kate Aca,
and never go
with ugly fat.
Al-so improve
my-y English, Bub,
that s why I go
for private lessons
every week end
wi-th pret-ti-est Ro-ma-nian this weekend
be-for-e iron-man holidays.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1911598]Hi,
Some girls can earn 2000 or even more euros per day so even you proposed to them a 1 hour session it will not change their life, hope you will get a good day in Shark what was never the case for me. This club is too dark inside for me and so make it difficult to choose the right girls, also I don t know why I have some problems with the global atmosphere of this club like Artemis in Berlin.[/QUOTE]You know many girls who make 2000 at the moment in FRA? Girls never refuse me to stay 1 full hour for only 100 . Some girls can make much more than 1000 at Globe. Ch, with 130 €/30 mn, and many girls were busy on a Friday night, when most are not at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1911545] Also to improve my English, Bub, that s why I go for private lessons every week end with prettiest Romanian GF, [/QUOTE]I doubt you have a Romanian GF. And BTW: Trying to improve your English with a Romanian WG as a teacher. Will not help. ;)
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1911963] improve .... English with a Romanian WG as a teacher. Will not help. ;)
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:D
"We will see us with not our clotheses, sweet" I love Romanian English.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1911963]I doubt you have a Romanian GF. And BTW: Trying to improve your English with a Romanian WG as a teacher. Will not help. ;)
HB.[/QUOTE]I have only opportunity to speak English with my Romanian GF in FKK, that's why I go so often, not to forget my few words and to play with tongue. Also when I write here. Bub is another guy in another forum. Thanks again for Kate, I will try to make her my regular escort GF, classy woman, I love her nails, her care and the way she looks at me, even out of the room.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1911963][b]I doubt you have a Romanian GF[/b]. And BTW: Trying to improve your English with a Romanian WG as a teacher. Will not help. ;)
HB.[/QUOTE]Don't you know Siri angels, the girls with strong vaginal stamina?
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1911963]I doubt you have a Romanian GF. And BTW: Trying to improve your English with a Romanian WG as a teacher. Will not help. ;)
HB.[/QUOTE]I don't understand your antipathy to Sirioja or why you keep on making snide comments about him. All the girls he takes to the room are his girlfriends while in the room with them because that is how he treats them and why they reciprocate.
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Jimmy Boy. Is your post an attack on Sirioja using irony?
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1912015]Jimmy Boy. Is your post an attack on Sirioja using irony?[/QUOTE]If it is he will not understand. At JB: I don't dislike him. It's just the continuous repetition of the same non-facts over and over again, including too many personal details. And the somehow arrogant assertion that he's the only guy treating the girls well and with respect.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1912108]If it is he will not understand.[/QUOTE]Reading this made silly me just realise that he would probably not understand the meaning of 'list ŕ la Prčvert' either as it is perhaps an English rather than a French usage?
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Respect
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1912108]And the somehow arrogant assertion that he's the only guy treating the girls well and with respect.
HB.[/QUOTE]Agreed! I mean, I absolutely cannot stand this type of monger in general (not speaking about Sirioja in particular), and as I discovered when I first started in the hobby, there are plenty out there like that. They think they're the only ones who understand what "respect" looks like in this thing, and therefore they "deserve" all the best from the girls while all the rest of us just get what we get. That attitude ticks me off because I know I'm a good guy with the girls when I'm supposed to be, and I know when to be "bad" when I'm supposed to be too! I was with two girls last night who are best friends (had just finished fucking one of them) who told me what a sweetheart I was. And one of them liked me to be little rough with her during sex, like yanking her head back violently by pulling on her long blonde hair!
Now, she asked me to do that out of the blue because it's something that turns her on. She told me, "I want you to pull my hair during sex". And that's a good segue into my next point. I've been accused by a few people (very, very few) of not respecting the girls because of some things I have written in my reports. But what I can 100% honestly say is that I never, ever do anything that a girl does not like or does not want to do. Never! And there are plenty of things I've done because they asked me to do it to them! Like asking me to pull their hair, or fuck them hard in the ass (especially in Brazil), sperm on their mouth or face, and so on. Yes, I like to do those things, but my point is that there are plenty of girls who like me to do those things to them (and even "for" them) since many ask me to.
The interesting thing is that these same arrogant mongers who assert that only they understand the concept of "respect in mongering" are engaging in the same damn sex acts that everybody else is doing and even more! They'll ask a tute to lick their ass! Oh, well I guess if you ask for it "respectfully" then it's OK LOL! I've always told these guys (I call then "Don Juan Johns" as a nickname) that if they can teach me of a more respectful way to ask a girl to suck my nuts, then I'm all for it! I can still learn! Maybe some think I don't respect the girls because of my sometimes vivid accounts of what happened in the zimmer. Just remember that they either agreed to do what I describe, or they directly requested it themselves. And I'm here to tell you about it. My way!
Look, it's like being a man of the cloth. Really LOL! You see, some preachers are good at talking about the afterlife and heaven and hell, and some preachers are good at talking about the here and now and how to prosper upon this earth. Some monger trip reporters are good at talking about how to get there, where to stay, where to go, and how much it all costs. And other monger reporters are good at describing in detail what this or that provider looks like, the nature of their interactions with the tutes (both inside and outside the zimmer), and the vivid details of the dirty little sex acts each provider performs in the room, and how well she does it or takes this, that, and the other. Some mongers prefer the former type of trip report while some prefer the latter. I happen to think that some blend of each type is best, and with pictures when possible. When I do a TR, that's what I strive to deliver. Some of both.
To be honest, I wish we could ultimately avoid these discussions about who shows the proper respect to the girls and who doesn't. That's because "proper society" would, in general, put each and every single one of us mongers in the very same boat. The larger society would say that none of us here have respect for women because we happily engage with them in paid sex. I heartily disagree with that assessment, but that's where the broader society places us. All of us! So, we're all in this together folks, and we need to stop bickering about who among us "respects" the tutes who serve our needs and who among us does not. When this particular group conflict comes up, I experience the same kind of feeling as when married versus single mongers start to side against each other. There's nothing to be gained from that. I mean, in the end what's the point? Same thing with thinking you're a "better monger" because you somehow have more respect for the girls. We're all in this together. United we stand. Divided we fall. One mongerdom I say!
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TankTank. Thanks for the education: I now understand "list a la Prevert". Inventaire a la Prevert is apparently French idiom.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1912167]TankTank. Thanks for the education: I now understand "list a la Prevert". Inventaire a la Prevert is apparently French idiom.[/QUOTE]You're right, it's "inventaire ŕ la Prévert" but any French with a little education would understand "list ŕ la Prévert".
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1912015]Jimmy Boy. Is your post an attack on Sirioja using irony?[/QUOTE]No. I like him and think he is a good guy. I treat the girls I go to the room with the same way he does.
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Cane,
I never asked a prostitute, or a woman in normal life, to lick my ass, or my balls, I don't need to see a woman doing me that, I don't need to CIM women, or to cum in face or on body. Even prostitutes understand by the way I look at them or speak to them, who I am, before going to room, even I can "kill" any girl for the day if I want. In room, I treat them like I treated my real GF and most of them look at me like if I was a martian and let me manage and lead. I don't claim to be better, but I don't feel at all united with other clients. I accept critics below, I just wait who will have balls to say to me, looking me in the eyes, all critics are from ghosts who never met me, or who don't want, preferring bullshitting, staying in the dark. No critics from those I meet or I met. FKK are really land of jealousy, not only between girls.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;1912142]Agreed! I've always told these guys that if they can teach me of a more respectful way to ask a girl to suck my nuts, then I'm all for it! I can still learn! [/QUOTE]My favorite part of Cane's post. LOL!
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1906274]FreeDude reported seeing her at reception. She had been working at Mainhattan with another ex-Oase WG Bella.[/QUOTE]Christina was in MH back in September but not in April as was reported. So I guess it was an April fool's joke. FKK Rom was correct.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912317]Christina was in MH back in September but not in April as was reported. So I guess it was an April fool's joke. FKK Rom was correct.[/QUOTE]Yes, your Cristina with tattoo behind shoulder, tried Mainhattan for IAA, but didn't stay, she was not busy when I saw her. Blond Bella still at Mainhattan, with weight from free foods. Blond, blue eyes with piercing on lips, ex Andrea, now Alexandra, also still at Mainhattan.
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The Cane. +1.
As you say we don't need holier than thou sermons. Preacher men have feet of clay, and forget they are just like the rest of us. A monger may think he is special but the girls will quickly say how they dislike him.
We are all in the same boat, as you say
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From my experience those users who are stressing how good and respectful they are treating the girls and are attacking others for using some expressions are the worst. Those who are using strong language as a matter of their personal style when describing interactions with the girls are getting attacked and in reality are the kindest with the girls.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1912459]From my experience those users who are stressing how good and respectful they are treating the girls and are attacking others for using some expressions are the worst. Those who are using strong language as a matter of their personal style when describing interactions with the girls are getting attacked and in reality are the kindest with the girls.
HB.[/QUOTE]Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? So if a guy is nice to girls and an arsehole on the forum, which is his true self?
I have to be sceptical. I would say that the anonymity of a forum makes guys' true colours come out, simular to how alcohol does that. The nicest guys on the forum trully are the real good guys.
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Optimist is the benchmark for nicest guy.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912504]Dr The nicest guys on the forum trully are the real good guys.[/QUOTE]Can't second that. For sure it's not the case on the many German boards.
HB.
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BB Embarrassing. Thank you. I think you should be called Optimist LOL. I just don't fall out with people very often (although I am arguing with several members in the London thread). I have the advantage of being a native English speaker on an English language forum.
HB and Syzygies. I guess you are both describing people you know, which means in essence you are both right. Neither experience should be seen by anyone as an iron law of the universe, but just seen as personal experience e.g HB said clearly " From my personal experience".
PS HB I know you don't mean me when you say nicest guys on the forum are the worst in the room.lol.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1912521]
PS HB I know you don't mean me when you say nicest guys on the forum are the worst in the room.lol.[/QUOTE]I know you know. And you are one of the users here not trying to misinterpret my posts.
HB.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1912509]Optimist is the benchmark for nicest guy.[/QUOTE]Ultrahappy is always postive and always happy in the face of bad luck and things going wrong. His handle is very apt.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1912521]BB Embarrassing. Thank you. I think you should be called Optimist LOL. I just don't fall out with people very often (although I am arguing with several members in the London thread). I have the advantage of being a native English speaker on an English language forum.
HB and Syzygies. I guess you are both describing people you know, which means in essence you are both right. Neither experience should be seen by anyone as an iron law of the universe, but just seen as personal experience e.g HB said clearly " From my personal experience".
PS HB I know you don't mean me when you say nicest guys on the forum are the worst in the room.lol.[/QUOTE]Yeh most guys I know personally are similar on the forum to their normal behavior in the club when talking to me. Good and bad aspects.
Obviously I know nothing much about how they are in a room unless a girl happened to comment occasionally. It is unusual I guess unless the girl wants to make an unsolicted complaint as gossip.
Ocassionally girls warn you not to associate with that bad man in case we are thought to be similar.
The most common complaint I hear girls speak re customers is guys wanting BB. Another guy got described as 30 mins 30 positions.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912504]
I have to be sceptical. I would say that the anonymity of a forum makes guys' true colours come out, simular to how alcohol does that. The nicest guys on the forum trully are the real good guys.[/QUOTE]Nope in the case my experience is same like HB.
I hear different stories from the girls about the "nicest" forum guys on ISG, RF or LSH.
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What are RF and LSH please?
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Roemerforum and LustScoutHurenganger forum I think.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1912556]What are RF and LSH please?[/QUOTE]Two German forums with focus on FKK clubs in Hessen. Roemerforum and Lustscout. For LSH HB is THE expert.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912545]Yeh most guys I know personally are similar on the forum to their normal behavior in the club when talking to me. Good and bad aspects.
[/QUOTE]Wasn't talking about their behavior with the male guests but their behavior in the room. Sure they interact friendly with the male guests.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1912275]Cane, I never asked a prostitute, or a woman in normal life, to lick my ass, or my balls. I don't claim to be better, but I don't feel at all united with other clients.[/QUOTE]I tried to emphasize that my post was not about you in particular. I was speaking more in general terms about a type of monger that I do not like.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1912554]Nope in the case my experience is same like HB.
I hear different stories from the girls about the "nicest" forum guys on ISG, RF or LSH.[/QUOTE]How do you guys know how to match the handle on these boards to their face in the club? Further, the girl has to know the same before you both can indulge in a conversation about such a member and their behavior in the room with the girl. And this has to be done with several girls to form a true representative sample, because if it is with just one girl about a specific guy, it could be the girl lying. They are not exactly paragons of truth and virtue either.
Personally, I have never ever brought up any member in any conversation with any girl. I simply do not know most members by face, and I have no interest as well. It is enough to listen to them here writing about their experiences as seen from their side - no need to cross check with a girl if the member is telling the truth.
Actually just 2 or 3 people know how to match my face to my handle in these clubs. And I have come to regret even having disclosed that much. One girl on my recent visit asked about something I wrote and I was a bit surprised how she knew it was me, and thought she was smart to have figured out. But when I enquired, she said she got it from the one of the very few people who knows both my face&handle. I don't blame that member, I blame myself for having disclosed my handle at all to anyone while in the club. Much better to be anonymous. Everyone's personal situation is different, but for some if anonymity is not guaranteed, we might not be able to keep writing at all and sharing our views and experiences in the club.
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The girl doesn't have to know the guy's forum nick. If a few girls tell me the same story about a guy there may be some truth in it. I will do the link to the nick if I know it. And I do for quite a few guys. So I know what the guy wrote and what the girl told me about him.
HB.
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4 Jun 2016 Sat
Time: 14:00 to 22:00.
Sorry my late report.
First / Third session: Ukraine, 27. Worked here over a year. Blonde, tall, big tits, pretty ass, not a stunner, tanned w / o tattoo, pornstar model figure. IMO, her body figure likes Czech Raylene Richards. She is very aggressive and upsell her services such as CIM / anal / long session in outdoor field. PSE: 8/10. GSE: 5/10. Sex skill: 7/10. Face: 6/10. Figure: 8/10.
Second session: Russia / Ukraine, 27. Worked her just two weeks only. Brunette, natural tits, round ass, stunner, white w / o tattoo, lovely girl friend. No upsell. IMO, her face / out likes Playboy Playmate Tess Taylor. She is lovely girl. PSE: 5/10. GSE: 7/10. Face: 8/10 Figure: 7/10. I would like to pick up her in my hotel overnight.
I forget their names. In case any bro can tell me. Hope meet her again in late Aug trip.
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Some girls present
Its good to see brunette Carla and blonde Michaela back from holidays. Unfortunately May(Phi) absent.
Deborah's new look with blonde straight hair instead of red curly, made me recognise the face but forget who she was.
Line up was way better than several weeks ago for looks at least. Obviously I could not test all the new girls.
Even food was better than usual. No BBQ. Nice seafood Penne, and chicken mushroom curry was quite tasty even if not spicy.
Day crew was the usuals. No one too special except Elizabeth(Cze) for me. However other girls started to show up from 4PM. So it felt a lot more like previous years, than my previous couple of visits did. Oase could be on the rise again. Lots of new girls. However maybe its getting harder to get kissing, certainly difficult to get for 50.
First some names I probably did not list before (plenty of girls missing from the list):
* Adele, very slim blonde
* Amy, tall slim brunette, implants
* Anna, slim brunette light skin
* Antonia, black hair, face like Scarlet Jo
* Cami, platinum blonde with exaggerated implants
* Elli, tall slim brunette from Globe
* Emma, blonde with implants
* Johanna
* Karina, wavy platinum blonde
* Kati(ex World Britney) tall slim but curvy, small pretty face, implants
* Lara, tall light skin very curvy and nice tits
* Manu, blonde
* Mila, tall wavy brunette
* Sophie
* Valentina, light skinned brunette, very pretty like Catherine Zeta Jones.
* Zanette/Janette(Hun) slim blonde with dark roots, blue jeans strip of cloth
Now the usual crew that I can remember:
* Adelina(Mol/Rom)l.t. voluptuous platinum blonde
* Adina/Marina(Rom), wide C cups, med length straight auburn hair
* Alexa (Rom/"Thai") l.t. A cups, v.short slim brunette
* Alexa, tall, lip piercing, now d. blondish hair, corset often
* Alexandra, l.t. short girl, big mop of curly dark blonde hair, sometimes straight hair
* Alexia (Rom) l.t. with glasses, model body
* Alice(Rom), voluptuous C implants, brown hair
* Alice, tall voluptuous curvy wavy blonde (tied up), narrow face, implants
* Amelia(Rom), l.t. tall slim tanned brunette, A cups, no tats?
* Anja(Rom "Rus"), tall voluptuous build dark blonde hair, C+ cups, implants?
* Bella, A cups, lightly tanned skin dark blonde, latin look
* Bia(Rom), Cleopatra cut, B cups, top of tits covered, bee stung lips.
* Brianna, short brunette girl with perfect slim body maybe B cups
* Carla(Rom), short slim black haired girl, C cups
* Chayenne/Michelle(from NRW clubs), slim curvy with short platinum blonde hair, now extended, pussy diamond
* Christine, small girl with long black hair, A- tits
* Cora, very petite brunette with pony tail, A cups.
* Daniella, shoulder length black haired girl with pretty face and hoop earrings.
* Danielle/Daniella(Deu), dark skinned voluptuous girl A cups, pretty face with mole on left cheek, often corset (secret name)
* Deborah(Rom), l.t. slim body, red curly hair now straight blonde, B- cups
* Denisa(Rom), short, small face, reddish brown hair now changed to black?
* Diana (Dom), l.t. v. pretty slim black girl, big lips, C implants
* Diana, voluptuous platinum blonde often with spiral curled ends, C cups
* Donna "Suge"(Rom), voluptuous platinum blonde bombshell with D cups now brown hair, butterfly tats left leg to waist
* Elisa(Hun) l.t. tall tanned round faced girl with piercing
* Elizabeth(Cze) tall slim pretty face brunette, B implants (look good)
* Ellen(ex. Iulia Sharks) slim brunette with upturn nose and big tits
* Emma, new volup. short baby faced brunette, pointy nose
* Fabiana, pretty faced blondish red hair, hour glass body, A? cups, now enhanced
* Ilona(Ven?), big voluptuous girl, big tits, implants, latin look, slightly like Catherine Zeta-Jones
* Irinka(ex Deanna World), slim platinum blonde, now black hair and new more outgoing style
* Ivana, l.t. reddish brown hair, A- cups, tiny waist hour glass
* Jenny(Bul) voluptuous curly black hair tied back and glasses.
* Jessica, l.t. slim brunette with face piercing, now blonde with implants
* Kim(Thai), l.t. tall and slim
* Laura(Rom) "Portmann"/"Crudu-tsa", small slim curvy, playful, black hair, high B- cups, very pretty
* Lisa, new tall, curly golden blonde hair straight now, A cups, small pretty face
* Lorena, 178cm slim pretty blonde with gap between front top teeth.
* Louisa(Mar) v.l.t. slanty Egyptian eyes makeup, A cups, shorter blondish hair (was long black).
* Maria, tall, curvy reddish blonde, long face, big tits used to be covered, pussy piercing
* Maya(Rom)pretty, slim, m. length black hair, maybe ponytail, light skin
* Melissa, slim A cups, long blonde hair, maybe tied up or ponytail
* Michaela(Rom) short slim, small face, dark blonde, maybe spiral curls, half sister Sabina
* Mira(Rom), short brunette, may have bow in hair, friendly
* Montana-Bianca(Rom), l.t. tall slim model body brunette A cups, big eyes, a.k.a Vanessa, Anna-Maria, Bibi
* Nika(Rom) voluptuous tanned brunette, D cups, sometimes covered by jeans cloth
* Patricia/Patrizia(Roxy/Evita too many names) l.t. latin looking girl, A cups, bubble butt
* Rebecca (Rom/Bul?) voluptuous, platinum blonde, B+ cups, glasses, maybe plaited ponytail
* Roxanna, voluptuous milky white skin blond with perfect B/C cups
* Sandra (Moldavia) l.t. slim dark blonde
* Sherie(Rom) 182 cm brunette, C-? cups
* Suge-nella/Anais(Rom),dark blonde/brown hair, very pretty face, firm bubble butt
* Suzanne (Jam) voluptuous, stunning high C cups, now with straight red hair
* Tanya, pretty platinum blonde with good body, implants
* Vanessa/Raissa(Rom), blonde now brown hair, perfect toned slim but curvy body, now with implants
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Went with a girl who is a bit of a joker. After the DATY, I said to her I would award her the Oscar for the very best acting of an orgasm I ever saw. She was very confused. She was talented to be able to juice up just before getting there, to be able to make flowing ripples on the lower tummy before getting there, and to make such powerful convulsions, even smart enough to vary greatly the length of time taken to get there, this time quick since just back from pussy resting holidays, and the gradual build up. Finally I admitted I was just joking. She pointed out an orgasm like that cannot be acted that realistically. I admitted that I did not suspect acting after all.
I asked her, don't girls tell some customers that its just a job and that they never enjoy it of course? She admitted she does say this to some customers, but not to me, and not to all. I suggested: "Is it because some guys don't excell at doing DATY, or are inexperienced and untrained, just can't be bothered, or have no desire to waste time on their money, or no patience"? "Could be" she answers, but the most common reason she has to tell guys she is not going to enjoy and its just a job, is because some guys come on too strong, with the lovey dovey stuff and make her feel smothered. In other words, the guys just get too crazy with her, and she has to dampen them down somehow. Of course I am not that. I just look for great sex, and she is the best at it. I could easily wish to wake up to a girl like her molesting me every morning. I just make her feel relaxed, no pressure. She can be horny if she wants to be. She seems to get better and better every session. Or we just know each other by now and what works.
Fabulous girls do exist at Oase. Not all of them are great and GFE too, unfortunately. Firstly girls make money but they can look for a good time too on occasions. Seems that May is a different breed who broke the hooker mold. Appears to look for fun first, and money less important.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912780]
Line up was way better than several weeks ago for looks at least. Obviously I could not test all the new girls.
Even food was better than usual. No BBQ. Nice seafood Penne, and chicken mushroom curry was quite tasty even if not spicy.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time to make and share your list. Glad to hear the line-up is improving again.
Seeing your list makes me really wish I could pop in for a visit right now, but alas, I must wait a little bit longer. Oh! Why do you have to tease me like this?
On the bright side, my next trip isn't all that far away and I expect my girls will still be there when I next arrive.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1912713]The girl doesn't have to know the guy's forum nick. If a few girls tell me the same story about a guy there may be some truth in it. I will do the link to the nick if I know it. And I do for quite a few guys. So I know what the guy wrote and what the girl told me about him.
HB.[/QUOTE]You don't need to hide, because you don't write about your girls on this forum. I don t hide from girls, because I m proud of my behavior with them, now when a girl tells me about my writings, I make her read on my phone and I don't have anymore problems, they understand the difference between what they are told by some guys and what is really written. Then, no problem with Megan or Danny or brunette Raďssa. Ro, no more problem with Ariana. Yesterday, in a very low casting World, I decided, as always, to go to the prettiest brunette, except small Miss silicon, few normal words, 1 smile, 1 eye contact, 1 sweet kiss, and hand in hand, going to the chalet as I chose rather than the red dark room, but I let her choose the chalet and we were both happy with the mountains picture, for more than 1 hour with the most normal guy for behavior with women. She said she saw me for a long time and I never came to her, I answered: I couldn't because she was friend with Amira, she understood, very simple, and became a real GF under my hands and tongue, a real natural smell and taste Romanian, very brunette, because I was certainly her first of the day, at 8 pm. Now, since she returned from holidays, she seems to stay with Nea. Good training once more, in my World, for my ego, less than 2 months after discovering Amira.
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Tried two newer girls, Antonia and Valentina. Both had very pretty faces for my taste. First time failed to get kissing for some time. Is this a new trend?
Antonia was quite well booked through the day. Others must think she looks hot too. Brunette BCups. Face 8, body 7. Face slightly reminds me of Scarlett Jo. Soft service, just average, BBBJ just slightly faster than preferred but good enough. Repeat unlikely. Not GFE at all. Yet session still enjoyable due to optics and pussy feel. Certainly not a bad session by any means. Just lacking GFE.
Valentina, face 8, body 6. A little bit crazy personality, a little bit pushy. Seems to like DATY and to like dick. Diddled herself during the sex but did not cum. Possibly wanted extra for kissing but I did not ask that question. Not that busy. Maybe others did not find her so pretty or did not have any chemistry. Repeat maybe if the kissing gets included next time. There was some chemistry and fun for me. Had a white lace up covering belly. Perhaps hiding something. She asked for massage. I said I would massage her with my tongue. LOL I don't waste session time on massage.
Would be better off to stick with my girls of the past. However sometimes something new should be tried. Cannot really recommend either girl due to lack of kissing and GFE.
Another ISGer appearing often here, P had several girls to recommend for me, but mostly not my spec, e.g. Cami had silicones not subtle enough. I tend to only try really pretty or really sexy girls to my own taste. Sillies are usually not working for me. The visuals while fucking a girl are rather too important for me. Kissing is important too. I don't repeat any girls currently that do not give DFK. The top girls are giving that, at least in an hour booking they do.
If May was there, I would not have tried new girls at all. I also could have licked Bia who was good for me last year
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Antonia
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912900]Tried two newer girls, Antonia and Valentina. Both had very pretty faces for my taste. First time failed to get kissing for some time. Is this a new trend?Antonia was quite well booked through the day. Others must think she looks hot too. Brunette BCups. Face 8, body 7. Face slightly reminds me of Scarlett Jo. Soft service, just average, BBBJ just slightly faster than preferred. I managed to enjoy despite lack of kissing. Repeat unlikely. Not GFE at all...[/QUOTE]I am wondering if your Antonia is the same Antonia as mine. May 2016: my Antonia 1540-1640 (200 E) long black hair, tanned, 150 cm, 20 yo, saggy D-cup, pretty Rom, 1 month at Oase, usually sitting in the non-smoking lounge. We began 1-hour /100 E session but ended up with 1-hour /200 E one with two extras. She quoted pussy licking at 50 E and lips and tits kissing with her professional massage at another 50 E, over which we finally came to an agreement at the end of the session. I could not confirm her O during DATY because of her poor command of English. May not repeat.
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[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1912908]I am wondering if your Antonia is the same Antonia as mine. May 2016: my Antonia 1540-1640 (200 E) long black hair, tanned, 150 cm, 20 yo, saggy D-cup, pretty Rom, 1 month at Oase, usually sitting in the non-smoking lounge. We began 1-hour /100 E session but ended up with 1-hour /200 E one with two extras. She quoted pussy licking at 50 E and lips and tits kissing with her professional massage at another 50 E, over which we finally came to an agreement at the end of the session. I could not confirm her O during DATY because of her poor command of English. May not repeat.[/QUOTE]Although your description seems to fit, this Antonia suggested she had only been there a shorter time. There was no upsell at all. Pussy licking was free.
Her English was excellent so cannot be same girl.
Even a girl has good English, I am not going to ask a girl did she cum. Awkward question for some girls. She may feel need to lie. Usually girls don't need to say anything if they cum. If I am unsure, I remain unsure no matter what she says. Some girls can have sneaky one. Hard to be ever sure. Other girls build up slowly to explode and its all too obvious.
I don't believe either of my 2 new girls had an orgasm. Antonia may have come close but pulled away at the critical time. Pulling away can indicate a cum or also can mean avoided it. So inconclusive. Valentina looked like she wanted to enjoy but could not make it.
Its hard for girls to avoid feeling stimulated during a long DATY if well done, and if they like Daty at all. However they can pull out to avoid it going too far. Famous Dina pulled out of Daty after less than 30 secs if my memory is correct. Maybe shortest Daty I ever gave. Very clearly did not want to experience stimulation.
Both her and her friend Elli were rather too professional for me. Not a realistic GFE.
Christina of Oase (long gone) was weak service for many since rather passive, but did improve for her regular customers once she gets to like them. However I like her lack of acting and putting on a show. If she seems to enjoy, you can feel it is real, no act. She would not say she had a big O though. Not her style to say something like that and I never asked her either.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912920]Although your description seems to fit, this Antonia suggested she had only been there a shorter time. There was no upsell at all. Pussy licking was free. Her English was excellent so cannot be same girl.[/QUOTE]Let me add to the confusion.
I tried an Antonia in early May. Brunette, very slim, B-cup that is not evidently saggy but very soft, pretty face but too small to look like Scarlet J, 150 cm, speaks good English. She said she was 20 years old and had been in the club for 1 month. Standard service. No upselling.
She approached me again in early July, but I did not repeat. In both of my visits, she was sitting at the tables overlooking the jacuzzi.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1912932]Let me add to the confusion.
I tried an Antonia in early May. Brunette, very slim, B-cup that is not evidently saggy but very soft, pretty face but too small to look like Scarlet J, 150 cm, speaks good English. She said she was 20 years old and had been in the club for 1 month. Standard service. No upselling.
She approached me again in early July, but I did not repeat. In both of my visits, she was sitting at the tables overlooking the jacuzzi.[/QUOTE]Well your description seems to fit much better. No points of real divergence. Girls often exaggerate how new they are. You know just one month lasts a long time. LOL
Your description of the tits is good but just a little sag. Not quite to C cups in my opinion. Just B. She could have been more than 150. 150 is very short indeed. I would have guessed 160 but unsure. Idid not note height carefully and heels causes distraction.
You are right face narrower than Scarlett Jo, but still some faint similarity for me, without being blonde. Nose and something else.
Yes she sat near to Adina/Marina's spot above the Jacuzzi. She was not there on my two previous visits. Maybe returned after a break.
Yes not good enough to repeat. Some girls are far better for the fun and GFE levels. Just standard as you say.
I think you help clear it up rather than add to confusion. Likely you describe same girl.
Smart girls need to realise they have to give more illusion if they want to build regular customers. Maybe Antonia is pretty enough to survive with continual stream of new customers. She got plenty of bookings.
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I hear rumours that EriKarla is in Belgium. I don't have any clue if she will return to Oase. I have no contact to her, myself.
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Antonia
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912920]Although your description seems to fit, this Antonia suggested she had only been there a shorter time. There was no upsell at all. Pussy licking was free.Her English was excellent so cannot be same girl...[/QUOTE]Thanks for your prompt responses, Syzygies and TankTank. My Antoina may be different from yours, or she could have improved her English in such a short period.
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List corrections
Present:
* Alina (was Daniella Rom), tall black haired slim girl, maybe freckles.
Not seen (forgot who she is):
Christine (Got ticked accidentally).
I believe present (but not 100% sure of name):
Catalina.
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[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1912963]Thanks for your prompt responses, Syzygies and TankTank. My Antoina may be different from yours, or she could have improved her English in such a short period.[/QUOTE]Could not have improved English that fast. Its not like she spends massive time talking to customers. I had no difficulty to communicate with her at all. Possibly different one. Good tits a little saggy but certainly not close to D cups. Plenty of Oase girls with bigger tits. The tits were not expansive enough to be even C in my view.
She even asked me if the session was good or bad. I could say good, but could not rave. Just average really, or better than average. I am not too familiar with what Oase average is, these days. We get so many reports of bad sessions or rip offs. Fortunately I am mostly avoiding heavy upsell girls. If she could have been GFE, the session would have been rated as really quite good. Her general skills were O.K. and I enjoyed her nice body. Lacking any real GFE is a big dampener for me.
Donna has huge tits now with implants. I guess more than double D. Perhaps F cup? Heard a rumour she may use a different name now, but I don't know what it is.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912937]Girls often exaggerate how new they are. You know just one month lasts a long time.[/QUOTE]Someone mentioned in a post last year that Adina told him she had been in the club for just 1 month. That was the longest 1 month I have heard of as my first session with Marina was in 2013! In that session, she claimed it was her first day, and I believe her as I had to show her where the room was, and where to find towels.
Later I found out that she was indeed an 'Adina' for just a month before that post I mentioned. She was Marina before that! I guess that is how girls think they can reset their internet persona to purge the association of some poor reports with them.
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I did not see Maria (Kinski) nor Angie (Diaz) thought I read a rumour about her, nor May nor Laura / Livia nor Juicy.
Any of them could have been working other days. May was reported being seen 2 days earlier.
Elizabeth (Hun) still missing.
Lots of regulars missing like Ellena and Sophia, as examples. Well known girls I would list if seen, at least if they were well known a year ago. Recently my attendance is quite irregular.
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Syzygies,
When did you last see Sabrina (Bulgarian) Dark Haired in Oase? is she still there?
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1913020]Syzygies,
When did you last see Sabrina (Bulgarian) Dark Haired in Oase? is she still there?[/QUOTE]Wow this is brunette with spider tat on the front and diamond tat on the back or ass, right? Maybe slightly hook nose? So long ago I last saw her, I nearly can't remember her. LOL. I exaggerate a little. Over one year ago. Maybe a lot more. Remember her slightly.
Maybe thread search for Sabrina (Bul) will work? Maybe brackets will stuff it up.
Nearly could not remember Deborah with a complete change of hairstyle even I sessioned her before. New hair is better.
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No more Latvian Angel, Ina, since beginning of December?
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After 7 years of visiting FKKs, I finally visited Oase for the first time yesterday. I will summarize and compare directly to Sharks since those seem to be the main Hessen top dogs / rivals now.
Amenities / ambiance:
The amenities / ambiance of Oase versus Sharks is apples versus oranges. Oase is more decadent with paintings, statues, columns, and marble. It does a good job of simulating an ancient bathhouse. Sharks is more modern and is set up like a night club. Ironically, it is Oase that has the better nightclub scene after midnight, while Sharks girls are mostly laying around lacking energy. The girls were taking turns dancing around the pole and often with the guests. Last night, a Chinese guy was up on the pole with different girls taking turns dancing with him. Oase's kino / cinema actually gets used as a place to re-stimulate and maybe even begin a session with a blowjob / handjob.
Many people complain about the food at Oase but I did not think it was bad, only limited. The selection was smaller with no cake or fruit, but the main items were good. I never hear people talk abou the bar service, but it was much better at Oase. I am not sure if it is because all of the male bartenders are better at Oase or if the design of the bar at Sharks, with all of the bar seats, makes it harder for the female bartenders to recognize people who need service. Either way, I never had problems getting a drink within 2 minutes at Oase while many times, 3 bartenders at Sharks have passed me by.
Oase's garden is not as well maintained as Sharks but still very enjoyable. The pool was bigger and the water was a better temperature. But Sharks just has a "zen" vibe to the arrangement. Not as zen as GoldenTime but feels much more clean and organized than Oase. Oase's garden almost felt like an unkempt American back yard, just with roman statues.
Sharks has the superior steam room and sauna. In facts, I think Sharks has the best steam room in all of FKK's. Soft changing lights, soft music, and 10-12 cold water sprays and ice waiting outside. The dry sauna is also a little nicer and bigger. When Sharks finishes their 2 new jacuzzis upstairs, that will also be superior. I am surprised that not many people spend time using these facilities because they freshen and relax me. They are good use of down-time; and hey, you paid to use them!
While I think Sharks is better set up for relaxing throughout the day (outside and upstairs,) you can't beat the relax room at Oase for a good sleep.
Oase makes it easy to enjoy yourself during downtime. Between the active kino, relaxation room, and nice pool you have plenty to do on a nice day at Oase. In contrast, the no phone policy at Sharks is a relaxation killer. Without access to entertainment on my phone during downtime, there is no good downtime area at Sharks. If they continue to not allow phones in the main club, I'd hope that they would set up a relaxation room where you are allowed to use them on your down time.
Girls:
Unless you hate silicone, optics at Oase on Saturday was better than Sharks on Friday. I do not prefer silicone versus naturals (both have their appeal to me) but the top optics at Oase seemed to be inflated; Cami, Emma, Ellie, Alice. Besides the 5 or 6 barbies, I did not see many perfect bodies but I did see many pretty faces with natural bodies, Emilia, Antonia, Coral. In contrast, my top optics at Sharks are girls like Janine, Megan, Alexia. All with natural breast. The 2nd tier optical girls at Sharks seem to be thinner than those at Oase; Cosmina, Ariana, , basically more hips at Oase and more runway model at Sharks.
I do enjoy the kino / cinema when I want a girl but may need a little "help. " I will now always do one session with a girl that sells herself well enough in the kino.
Girls do not approach but the layout of the club makes it so the walkways are so congested that you get pressured by the girls every time you go to the locker room or back and forth from the wellness area to the disco area. I like to detour through the massage area to avoid the grid lock on the raised area and adjacent hallway to the locker room / disco.
Girls do seem to be having more fun at Oase, especially when the DJ arrives. Sharks only has a generic playlist and while some say it is too dark during the day, it is too bright to be a dance club at night. The girls always look miserable, especially at night time.
All that being said, the one thing that prevents Oase from ever being the best club is all of the upsells. It's an erection-killer to be in a room with a girl and have to negotiate money. Some girls ask for 150 E for 100 HR sessions (which can be negotiated down, but the negotiating is not fun.) I had one excellent 30 minute session and one mechanical bare-bones 30 minute session, I will post reviews of Alina / Adina and Ivana later. The 60 minute session (Ellie) was actually quite good after having to negotiate.
Conclusion:
I will be better able to judge after more sessions at Oase but on first impression, I think Sharks wins mostly because of. SYLVANA!
Haha no. I think Oase excel with optics, nightclub scene, sleep room, and club decadance but the rampant upsells at Oase is off putting. That behavior prevents Oase from ever becoming the number club, ever. I prefer 60 minute sessions but 30 minute sessions should be enjoyable too, especially if it is your first time with a girl. Oase makes it hard to screen new girls in order to take them to longer sessions later. A crappy 30 minutes first time session would ensure that a girl will never get a 2nd, 3 rth. 15th 60 minute session from me.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1913071]Wow this is brunette with spider tat on the front and diamond tat on the back or ass, right? Maybe slightly hook nose? So long ago I last saw her, I nearly can't remember her. LOL. I exaggerate a little. Over one year ago. Maybe a lot more. Remember her slightly.
Maybe thread search for Sabrina (Bul) will work? Maybe brackets will stuff it up.
[/QUOTE]Yep that's the one I am talking about! So but currently she is not there right?
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Syz: Nice meeting you last night at Oase by the way. And a few additions to the list you made of girls present last night:
- Mira (new girl. Very pretty blonde. Half ukrainian. Used to work at Sakura. She was booked all night unfortunately. Or was that Manu for you?)
- Vera (short girl, now brown hair. Formerly blonde 3 months ago. Very fit and strong petite girl with lots of power). I did prefer her with blonde hair though...
- Amina (former Sharks girl. Slim black haired girl. Same height as Denise, and with a 'Deniz' tatoo on her back. Faces are different, but can be mixed by new visitors). She has a bit of a kinkiness to her. Kinda reminds me of a black haired version of Laura... wanted to try, but so many options...
And Suginella has red hair now. Aside from that your list is good.
And as you said, no kissing from Cami. She is pure optics. Was still well worth it, and she does great bj, and doggie was great with her. She looks like gravity has had zero effect on her (same can be said of Emma, but both are silicone girls with new tits). Cami is probably top 3 in cuteness/optics alongside Chayenne and this other new girl Mira. Other guy we met there from usa also tried her and chayenne and was more than satisfied with both...
Never seen this strong optical lineup at Oase on a single day ever though. After some 20 visits.
PS: Both May and Laura was there on thursday but not last night... so in a way I'd count these two in as well...
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Exactly
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1912275]Cane,
I never asked a prostitute, or a woman in normal life, to lick my ass, or my balls, I don't need to see a woman doing me that, I don't need to CIM women, or to cum in face or on body. Even prostitutes understand by the way I look at them or speak to them, who I am, before going to room, even I can "kill" any girl for the day if I want. In room, I treat them like I treated my real GF and most of them look at me like if I was a martian and let me manage and lead.[/QUOTE]Yeah why would anyone want to do anything like that to a girl. I just take them to the room, talk and sing little songs in their ears, works for me.
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07/24
Following up Syzergies' lineup list with a few reviews from a first time Oase visitor.
I did not try any of top reviewed girls as the others in my group were having fun with them and I was looking for something specific. I wasn't sure what, but I did not want the super optic fucks that badly that day.
1. Alina / Adina? (Ro) 168 cm Pale, auburn / reddish hair. Large natural see cups. Small ass, no sag but no shape either.
Face: 7.5.
Body: 8.
Performance: 6.
X-Factor: 1 (I'll explain below).
She was my first Oase girl because I try to not think hard picking a girl on my first day of a trip or at a new club. Chatted with her and began talking about politics and she seemed knowledgeable so I was intrigued. She was pretty but not hot and her body was not stunning but also did not have major flaws so that seemed good. She said that kissing was okay so I went with her. In the room, it was only light kissing and no DATY. Within 15 minutes for Cowgirls, reverse cowgirl, and doggy, I just was not feeling it and did not even want to finish. I bluntly, but politely told her that there was no chemistry. Actually I said, "something is missing. " She insisted that every girl was the same in 30 minute rooms. At the start, we didn't even talk about how long, she just assumed 30 m and began to give mechanical service. I left at 20 minutes when I asked her for a 10 minute massage to end the session and she said that also was not possible in 30 minute sessions. It was a poor session, I didn't finish, and was thus a poor first room at a new club. Told her no hard feelings and we were cordial the rest of the day.
2. Ellie (Ro) 168 cm. Dark Straight hair with big brown eyes and full lips, Aletta Ocean pornstar look alike.
Face: 9.5.
Body: 10 (for people who are okay with silicone).
Performance 7.5.
Overall: 8.
Wow! This girl is perfect in looks. Perfect tanned body. She has a Victoria Secret model body with fake see / the cups. Her ass was perfectly firm with good muscle tone. Boobs were surgically perfect but as always, the skin was tight around the big fake ones. Like I mentioned, she has a face like Aletta Ocean but her lips are not as full as Aletta (good thing.) Her big eyes are gorgeous! The only reason I did not give her a 10 in the face is that I prefer skinny faces. However, she is still flawless.
I thought that she was going to be an OptiFuck but was pleasantly surprised. Not impressed, but surprised. She first haggled for 150 E one hour with CIM (I did not even ask for that.) I told her I didn't want CIM, 100 HR should be good. She renegotiated to 120, I said 100, and she said 120, batted her eyelashes so I said okay. I asked her what she didn't like in the room, and she said "pain. " After that it was smooth in the room. Good blow job with some eye contact. Medium-French kiss. DATY, 69, light fingering. Good eye contact during missionary. Ordinary cowgirl. Great doggie not because of performance, but because her flawless ass bounced so firmly against me. After 40 minutes, I felt the finish and could have held out but just didn't want to. I'm glad I did not because it was a good one after the previous session's catastrophe. We stayed in the room for 15 more minutes talking and playing with our phones next to each other so it was a good GFE way to end the session. Good session with good but not great fucking. She's a nice girl which was refreshing since most of the perfect, silicone barbies are usually not very interesting.
3. Ivana (Moldavian) 168 cm. Reddish Brunette with A cups and full butt, neither saggy nor firm. Full.
Face: 6.5.
Body: 6.5.
Performance 9.
Overall: 8.
She has a funny look, not unattractive but unique. Small eyes, gummy smile. Tiny boobs and a full ass. She approached me in the kino and laid over me. We talked for a bit but I wanted to see more girls come up to me. She was persistence and started to make out with my ear and neck. She gave me a lap-dance / rubdown while kissing me so I decided to go to the room with her and I'm glad that I did. Her performance was fantastic! Good sloppy blowjob and 69 with good sounds. I tried a 69 with me on top but she said that she didn't like that. Went into mish, doggy, prone, back to mish. Great noises, great eye contact and DFK. Her healthy ass made doggy easy because her ass cheeks directed her hips very well. Good passion, good eye contact, good noises, good grabbing at the sheets / towel. Great experience.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1913094]Syz: Nice meeting you last night at Oase by the way. And a few additions to the list you made of girls present last night:
- Mira (new girl. Very pretty blonde. Half ukrainian. Used to work at Sakura. She was booked all night unfortunately. Or was that Manu for you?)
- Vera (short girl, now brown hair. Formerly blonde 3 months ago. Very fit and strong petite girl with lots of power). I did prefer her with blonde hair though...
- Amina (former Sharks girl. Slim black haired girl. Same height as Denise, and with a 'Deniz' tatoo on her back. Faces are different, but can be mixed by new visitors). She has a bit of a kinkiness to her. Kinda reminds me of a black haired version of Laura... wanted to try, but so many options...
And Suginella has red hair now. Aside from that your list is good.
And as you said, no kissing from Cami. She is pure optics. Was still well worth it, and she does great bj, and doggie was great with her. She looks like gravity has had zero effect on her (same can be said of Emma, but both are silicone girls with new tits). Cami is probably top 3 in cuteness/optics alongside Chayenne and this other new girl Mira. Other guy we met there from usa also tried her and chayenne and was more than satisfied with both...
Never seen this strong optical lineup at Oase on a single day ever though. After some 20 visits.
PS: Both May and Laura was there on thursday but not last night... so in a way I'd count these two in as well...[/QUOTE]Thanks for extra info. You are becoming a very regular at Oase it seems. I am sure we met sometime in the past.
I did not say anything much about Cami other than the sillies are a bit too much for me.
I saw Suginella / Anais but did not notice reddish hair. I wonder if two different girls. My one has extremely pretty face and very curvy and I thought light brown hair. I could be mistaken and unobservant this time.
I don't see how Mira can be Manu. Possibly 20 girls I could not put a name to.
Pity to miss May. Others will be happy to hear about Laura.
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[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1912963]Thanks for your prompt responses, Syzygies and TankTank. My Antoina may be different from yours, or she could have improved her English in such a short period.[/QUOTE]I sessioned with one Antonia in March. Petite, slim, pretty face brunette, longish hair. Liked her, but although she said she was. Ru new in the club at that time, she was very business like. I had a decent session, but not a whole lot of chemistry. But I agree, her English was terrible. Could hardly understand much. It is very unlikely her English improved substantially in a couple of months from where she was in March, unless she was faking her bad English at that time, for some unknown purpose. She was friends with Ameena, who I fucked on a couch in the kino, while Antonia was a couple of couches away trying to sell to another customer.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1912780]Its good to see brunette Carla and blonde Michaela back from holidays. Unfortunately May(Phi) absent.
Deborah's new look with blonde straight hair instead of red curly, made me recognise the face but forget who she was.
Line up was way better than several weeks ago for looks at least. Obviously I could not test all the new girls.
Even food was better than usual. No BBQ. Nice seafood Penne, and chicken mushroom curry was quite tasty even if not spicy.
Day crew was the usuals. No one too special except Elizabeth(Cze) for me. However other girls started to show up from 4PM. So it felt a lot more like previous years, than my previous couple of visits did. Oase could be on the rise again. Lots of new girls. However maybe its getting harder to get kissing, certainly difficult to get for 50...[/QUOTE]Hi,
Which GF Romie wore braces? My friend had a 30 minutes session with her. Cute face, silicon be cup, provide long BBBJ with multiple deep throats. Total damage is 100 E. PSE: 8 GFE: 7.
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Sounds like the same Suginella (weired you didnt notice the red hair. Its kinda the 'fake' kind of red with a blonde base you cannot miss noticing) And we talked about that new ukrainian / romanian blonde Mira. I just didn't see her on your list, but you had a new 'Manu' who'm I didn't meet.
Edit: I just reread your list and it could be I got Suginella mixed up with Deborah... makes sense now that I think about it. But she used to be Deborah few years ago... could it be she changed her name now?
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Did Mira have implants? I could have listed her wrongly as Emma. I met a Mila who was very tall pretty brunette. So many names so similar.
Deborah did not change name, only hair. She used to be curly red head. Now sraight hair blonde.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1913142]Did Mira have implants? I could have listed her wrongly as Emma. I met a Mila who was very tall pretty brunette. So many names so similar.
Deborah did not change name, only hair. She used to be curly red head. Now sraight hair blonde.[/QUOTE]Mira did not have implants (or if she had a little, it didnt show). 165 cm blonde. Nice hips, but used to wear a towel around them.
Emma has implants. Brown or very dark blonde hair. About same height as Cami and used to hang out a bit around the same place upstairs from the jacuuzi. Extremely firm body, fit and with a low fat percentage. Big lips, square face, cute, quite pale skin. A bit of a barbie...
Ok, I recall a deborah from a few years ago who had red hair who kinda looked like this girl (suginella). But my memory on this is bad. The red haired girl this time claimed to be sugi or suginella though.
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Oase or place during the day-time?
Hello,
I have a quick question. Which one would you go to, Oase or Palace if you only have time till 6 PM or 7 PM? I used to frequented there back in 2000-2010 (saw Marina, Daniella from Palace, Stefi, Lena from Oase and some others names I forgot.), and found the levels are not bad at all even during the day time, but not sure nowadays.
I know Oase has the outside area, but people are talking about Oase losing the edge when it comes to the quality of the girls, so I am just curious only about the level of the day-time girls.
I know things start happening after 8-9 PM, but I will have to catch a flight back to the US.
Appreciate your advises.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1913159]Mira did not have implants (or if she had a little, it didnt show). 165 cm blonde. Nice hips, but used to wear a towel around them.
Emma has implants. Brown or very dark blonde hair. About same height as Cami and used to hang out a bit around the same place upstairs from the jacuuzi. Extremely firm body, fit and with a low fat percentage. Big lips, square face, cute, quite pale skin. A bit of a barbie...
Ok, I recall a deborah from a few years ago who had red hair who kinda looked like this girl (suginella). But my memory on this is bad. The red haired girl this time claimed to be sugi or suginella though.[/QUOTE]OK so I got Emma right and forget who Mira was.
As to Suginella, you must understand that this is not a real name but in fact a bad joke, based on the Romanian language. So your red head should really have another name and be telling you Suginella as a joke. I believe it should mean a girl that sucks good or something like that.
Another girl Donna called herself Sugi at times. A Kati called herself Stropinella at one time, another joke.
Pornella is another Romanian joke name.
Other girls like Montana would give a different name every time as sort of a fun game. Evita changed her nane several times depending on her latest whim.
Then we had Tatiana imposters trying to get business from the hype.
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I am beginning to think there is a bit of a group thing happening at Oase. Many girls want to upsell and want to sell kissing in particular as an extra for 50 more. They are sock of waiting around for a long time for a cistomer and then getting just a fifty from a guy who wants everything.
New girls to FKK arriving know little of course but are very soon indocrinated by the other girls, along the lines of kissing is not allowed to be provided for no extra charge. Not a proper club philosophy I am sure, but I heard the words from a girl suggesting kissing is not allowed, but persuadable of course for the right money I am guessing, although she did not say so immediately, for fear I might get disillusioned with the session.
The best long time girls are still providing kissing under some circumstances. I cannot be expert on the topic as I never take 30 min sessions by choice unless its a crap session. However one top girl tells me she only performs at her nest for 100 and up, and this could be a common theme.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1913210]I am beginning to think there is a bit of a group thing happening at Oase. [/QUOTE]This union-fication (how can that not be a word) by girls over service levels is what destroyed Palace.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1913218]This union-fication (how can that not be a word) by girls over service levels is what destroyed Palace.[/QUOTE]That is so far right but the situation was different because the service level at World and Oase and than since 2010 also at Mainhattan and Sharks was still much better than at Palace.
Nowadays what discussed here about Oase is more or less similar at Sharks, Mainhattan and World.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1913210]I am beginning to think there is a bit of a group thing happening at Oase. Many girls want to upsell and want to sell kissing in particular as an extra for 50 more. They are sock of waiting around for a long time for a cistomer and then getting just a fifty from a guy who wants everything.
New girls to FKK arriving know little of course but are very soon indocrinated by the other girls, along the lines of kissing is not allowed to be provided for no extra charge.[/QUOTE]Hope this has not percolated down to other FKK's like Sharks!
What if a girl first agrees to kiss in 50 Euros during the time of interview and if she refuses to do it in the room? Terminate the session ? And if she still claims the money the case goes to the front desk.
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IMO some members have way too high an expectation of a 30 minute session. You can only expect so much for a Euro 50 note. I'm not sure that a complete service to include several positions, BBBJ, DFK, DATY was ever a certain guarantee for a 30 minute fuck session in any of the Big FKK Clubs at any point in time and certainly is probably much less of a certainty now. If you require all the above (or most of the above) services better to suggest that you are open to a 60 minute session if the chemistry is right and extend to the 60 minutes if your requirements are being met. The onus is on the WG to entertain you during a longer session and if during the first 30 minutes the chemistry (or the service level) is not there, cut your losses at 30 minutes, chalk the session down to experience, hand over the 50 Euros and say goodbye.
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Antonia
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1913125]I sessioned with one Antonia in March. Petite, slim, pretty face brunette, longish hair. Liked her, but although she said she was. Ru new in the club at that time, she was very business like. I had a decent session, but not a whole lot of chemistry. But I agree, her English was terrible. Could hardly understand much. It is very unlikely her English improved substantially in a couple of months from where she was in March, unless she was faking her bad English at that time, for some unknown purpose. She was friends with Ameena, who I fucked on a couch in the kino, while Antonia was a couple of couches away trying to sell to another customer.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Jnpr. Probably same Antonia.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1913256]IMO some members have way too high an expectation of a 30 minute session. You can only expect so much for a Euro 50 note. I'm not sure that a complete service to include several positions, BBBJ, DFK, DATY was ever a certain guarantee for a 30 minute fuck session in any of the Big FKK Clubs at any point in time and certainly is probably much less of a certainty now. [/QUOTE]I am not necessarily an always an one hour session man! What you mention that was not the case back in 2014 not at least in Sharks I have had Kissing, DATY, BBBJ all of that with most of the girls that I sessioned in Sharks at 50 Euros back then, was not the same case in Oase where I was asked extras for DATY and Kissing!
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1913267]I am not necessarily an always an one hour session man! What you mention that was not the case back in 2014 not at least in Sharks I have had Kissing, DATY, BBBJ all of that with most of the girls that I sessioned in Sharks at 50 Euros back then, was not the same case in Oase where I was asked extras for DATY and Kissing![/QUOTE]Good for you that you got what you wanted back in 2014 for €50. But getting all these services (including LFK / DFK, BBBJ, DATY) was never a locked in guarantee from every WG in every FKK / Sauna Club particularly during a 30 minute session. You always had to select wisely and even more wisely now, particularly if you are not a club regular.
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DATY, BBBJ, and DFK were almost universal in FKK. It was very rare to get a 30 minute session without all of these.A customer was pretty much guaranteed these services without even asking
Girls providing those services were from countries like Germany where 50 Euro in 2004, for example, was worth a lot less than 50 to a Romanian today. In one day now a Romanian in FKK can make more net money than their mother does in one to three months.
I thought the reduced level of service I now sometimes find was due to the withering of my handsome good looks and charm ;)
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Thanks for all the reports it's pretty clear I won't go to Oase next month. For me kissing is mandatory.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1913276]Thanks for all the reports it's pretty clear I won't go to Oase next month. For me kissing is mandatory.[/QUOTE]Choose you girls carefully. As Craiova says, the same thing can happen almost as easily at Sharks. Some girls don't like to kiss. Some want to sell it. I think Oase is worse for upsell than Sharks and been the case for.
Several years. To me upsell has been prevalent at Oase for a long time but the kissing issue is starting to dominate these days.
I can recommend some great girls at Oase however I am knowing how they behave in an hour and not in 30 minutes.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1913256]I. I'm not sure that a complete service to include several positions, BBBJ, DFK, DATY was ever a certain guarantee for a 30 minute fuck session in any of the Big FKK Clubs at any point in time [/QUOTE]It was.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1913296]It was.[/QUOTE]We will have to disagree. You think (in the goood old days) it was an absolute and complete certainty for a customer to get a good and complete service from every WG in every FKK / Sauna Club (in Germany) during a 30 minutes session. I think it was never a complete certainty. It was just very likely that a customer would get good service particularly if he was a sex tourist turning up at a club for the first time. A certain amount of good judgement and luck has always been required. Guys have been complaining on this board about bad service for years and years and years. As I said we will just have to agree to disagree and let others judge the logic of the argument and judge who is correct.
It was a rare occurrence but I can remember getting bad service in Oase from Louisa 6 or 7 years ago. Unfortunately it is becoming increasingly difficult to get good service during a 30 minute session in recent times.
;)
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Seems some oase girls are more inclined to start kissing on the 2nd or 3rd session as well. And some kiss allways. So its not all black. But talk to them beforehand about what they do. They are all trustworthy like that, and never change when they come to the room. At least in my experiences.
Over half still kiss on first go...
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1913296]It was.
HB.[/QUOTE]I'd have to agree with HB. I've been around way back when Oase was a reliable club in terms of service.
There are clubs out there where 1 HR pre-agreement doesn't exist and still get good service.
Agreeing to 1 HR is not an option with a girl I haven't session before. This type of union-ification as CK puts it was what created the reputation of Palace.
Solution is easy for me. Attend other alternatives (with Romies still) where such types of service arrangements do not occur.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1913342]I've been around way back when Oase was a reliable club in terms of service.[/QUOTE]I am in agreement that Oase was a reliable club. Why would you think that I said otherwise? :rolleyes:
I just dont think it was ever an absolute lock down certainty that every 30 minute €50 session in all the major German FKK / Sauna Clubs would be guaranteed brilliant. Read back through the years and see all the complaints from guys who visited any of the Big FKK / Sauna Clubs :)
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Like PL I go to clubs where the service level remains near the levels it used to be in Oase. I'm not saying there aren't excellent providers in Oase now, but I can't be bothered with the extra risk.
Thanks Pistons for your 50% estimate. It reinforces my decision not to return to Oase. There are other (and often cheaper) clubs where it is 90 to 100%.
Auslander, yes we have always complained of bad service, but getting DATY. DFK (and even public sex if you wanted) was pretty much universal and we need not to accept the restriction of service. Best clubs are those with lower percentage of foreign visitors,(generalisation).
We are all agreed I think that it is more difficult to get good service now, as you say Auslander.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1913276]Thanks for all the reports it's pretty clear I won't go to Oase next month. For me kissing is mandatory.[/QUOTE]My opinion is that unless you have only a day or two to spend in the clubs, you should visit at least a couple of them to figure out which clubs you like, and not base this on just what you read here. I am not a great one to advise on DFK, since I limit myself to DFK' ing only those girls I truly like, but there are plenty of girls who have been reported as providing DFK at Oase. I fucked this girl Veronica on the couches in kino last month and she began kissing me deeply by herself w/o me asking for it and after a min I closed my lips because it's not my thing with every single girl. She was quite pretty in my view. Just one example.
And obviously every single girl at Sharks does not DFK either. Perhaps anecdotally a higher percentage might, but that's just that - Anecdotal. A whole lot depends on the the specific girls you choose, and how the chemistry goes.
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Well, clubwise it is probably a better percentage. But I base it of the top 20 ish girls. So the fillers who might have to provide extra well to compete I don't count in. And its possible to bargain in the kissing on a slow night. If they start kissing, they'll allways kiss (you at least). The kissing for 50 extra allways is not that many. But I've heard rumors and experienced maybe 5-6 girls doing it
Heard from one guy I met at sharks that he had a simillair experience there, so its probably not 90% there either.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1913408]
Heard from one guy I met at sharks that he had a simillair experience there, so its probably not 90% there either.[/QUOTE]What that girls at Sharks now do upselling for DATY, Kissing in a 50 Euros session?
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1913418]What that girls at Sharks now do upselling for DATY, Kissing in a 50 Euros session?[/QUOTE]Ask the girl before going to room, because some don t kiss at all. Steffi and Alea at Sharks, Alena claiming to be half German at World, Valentina and Sasha at Aca, don t kiss, or not really DFK, but many others kiss until the first minute in room, at least with me, without even speaking about time to spend in room, and my game extend the time, when the girl plays GF with me.
I m not a 50 €/30 mn guy, too short for my foreplay, even at Globe for 140 €/30 mn, but no upsell for me for kissing and DATY, at Sharks, World or Mainhattan, only Jasmin at Mainhattan who wanted 100 for 30 GFE mn, rather than staying 1 hour, so she stayed sitting at the bar all along birthday.
At Oase before, with Maria platinum, even Roxana, Ina. Lat of course, and Tatiana. Ru, no upsell, only club rate, 100 for 1 hour for me.
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There's girls trying to upsell or rip off clients or not performing "club standard" (you may agree or disagree that it exists or existed) at almost any club. Some have a higher, some a lower percentage. And years ago the percentage at Oase was a lot lower, same for Palace and other clubs.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1913389]My opinion is that unless you have only a day or two to spend in the clubs, you should visit at least a couple of them to figure out which clubs you like, and not base this on just what you read here. I am not a great one to advise on DFK, since I limit myself to DFK' ing only those girls I truly like, but there are plenty of girls who have been reported as providing DFK at Oase. I fucked this girl Veronica on the couches in kino [/QUOTE]I have only four days to spend around Frankfurt, and based on my experiences in NRW with GT or PHG for instance, I totally hate all the upselling part or the time-cheat attitude. I'll be very pissed off to have to face it again, so I think I'll do two days in Shark and one or two days in World.
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100 euro session becoming the norm
When I was at FKK Dietz in May, I got talking to a friendly local guy in the sauna and we got around to talking about the big clubs in Frankfurt.
He said ''Those clubs are only for the International young Playboy guys now. The girls are only interested in guys who spend big money per zimmer. These clubs arent for ordinary guy who only make 2000 per month anymore.''
I'm inclined to agree with him.
If guys are so willing to go for one hour sessions straight away or pay extra for kissing etc, its no surprise the hoors have become greedy and expect that.
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They might have international audience now especially in July. But 'young audience'? I've never seen an older audience than at sharks, and I even had 2 different girls there pointing that out. Sharks has the highest average age for the guys attending there among all the clubs these two girls had been to as well... its like 'fucking grandpa's'. Thats how one of the girls described it. LoL.
Maybe thats why Silvana is still making money there...
Oase has a bit lower age for the guys. Maybe average 45 insead of 50-55 at sharks... but a club like oceans or even artemis has an even younger age for the guys... especially oceans. Maybe average age of guys at oceans now last night was as low as 35. But low attendance so a group of locals and a large group of dutch guys lowerred it. But its probably higher on normal days and on fri/sat.
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If you really knew Sharks, You should know granny Sylvana catch younger guys than the prettiest girls at Sharks. I remember little hairy, but not on the head, old guy, being sucked many times by pretty brunette Maya, at the pole.
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Average age of WG and guys at Frankfurt big5 FKK clubs
It's for me very difficult to see a difference at average age of the WGs between Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan and World. Only Palace has for me a clear higher average age of the WGs.
To be honest I don't look so much on guys at clubs and also I've never thought one second thinking about different average age of guys at the Frankfurt big5. And guys structure changes more than girls structure of clubs every day. For me I saw more over the last years an increase of international guys and an decrease of local guys at the Frankfurt big5. Percentage with locals at World, Sharks and Mainhattan slightly higher than at Oase and much higher than at Palace.
Difference maybe also a bit with percentage of tattoo guys between the clubs, maybe also between the average spending per room. But again a significant difference of average guy's age, no have first never noticed that and second isn't important for me.
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Craiova: maybe. Although July is really an international month everywhere. So right now is not the time to check for where guys comes from. Felt like Sharks had 95% non locals a few days ago. Oase was actually quite a bit lower on non locals. But it also felt like the reason for that was that sharks has been hyped so much on all internet forums the past year... so what we write here and on other boards deffinately affects the crowds....
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1913616]If you really knew Sharks, You should know granny Sylvana catch younger guys than the prettiest girls at Sharks.
I remember little hairy, but not on the head, old guy, being sucked many times by pretty brunette Maya, at the pole.[/QUOTE]In the dark lounge at Oase.
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If we don't give a shit which Country girls come from, and I don't, any colour suits me if pretty, I care even less which Country the customers come from.
I am there for girls, not to worry about other customers unless they are too loud or too stinky, or too clingy, and that could be from anywhere really.
There are some customers that are difficult to get away from. Very repeatively negative customers can be annoying. There is no nationality for that. Could be from anywhere.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1913094]
PS: Both May and Laura was there on thursday but not last night... so in a way I'd count these two in as well...[/QUOTE]Hi Pistons,
Do you mean Laura / Livia? Juicy's sister?
I would be interested to know if she is at the club.
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Looking from the girls' pov, can't blame them. They are there to make money, and maximize their earnings. I am looking to make the most money in my job, why should the girls be any different?
Wanting hour long sessions also makes sense. Girls have a pre and post session investment, so to speak. It is the time to circulate, spot a client, make small chat plus interview, collect key and walk up to the room, and post session wash up, make up and power the nose and all that. It could well be 20 min to half HR per session regardless of if it is half HR or one HR or 4 hrs. Clearly they want to maximize the ratio of the actual pay time, compared to the investment time.
Also, many guys who would not consider paying extra for kissing or DATY, are willing to commit to girls to spend an HR to obtain those services. I guess there is an implied upsell in agreeing to do one HR to access DFK and DATY, but that is OK for many customers.
I don't know what you can do if your monthly comp is two grand. It is easier to think in terms of how much it costs per trip. For me, this varies between 300 on the low side, and 600 on the high side, and that s because I don't do extras (CIM very occasionally and anal never). Obviously, you can do just a coup, e of half HR sessions and leave by spending just 170 (150 if you go there on the cheap days?) and perhaps if you are truly a regular, some girls are willing to provide decent service for just 50. Of course, we had a lot of discussion on some locals going on Sundays just to lounge around, watch a game and ogle at the girls and not wanting any sessions. Each to his own.
[QUOTE=Wanking;1913603]When I was at FKK Dietz in May, I got talking to a friendly local guy in the sauna and we got around to talking about the big clubs in Frankfurt.
He said ''Those clubs are only for the International young Playboy guys now. The girls are only interested in guys who spend big money per zimmer. These clubs arent for ordinary guy who only make 2000 per month anymore.''
I'm inclined to agree with him.
If guys are so willing to go for one hour sessions straight away or pay extra for kissing etc, its no surprise the hoors have become greedy and expect that.[/QUOTE]
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I mean slim blonde petite Laura with the kinky look and tight pussy.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1913818]I mean slim blonde petite Laura with the kinky look and tight pussy.[/QUOTE]Was it this last Thursday (21st)?
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The good old daze
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1913491]There's girls trying to upsell or rip off clients or not performing "club standard" (you may agree or disagree that it exists or existed) at almost any club. Some have a higher, some a lower percentage. And years ago the percentage at Oase was a lot lower, same for Palace and other clubs.
HB.[/QUOTE]Bub, it's fun to think back on the days when Palace was a great destination- Marina, Vicki (before she became Reggie), Andra the young mom, glamour queen Daniella and others I forget, it's been a few years. Too bad because the rooms are nice and the location can't be beat for those of us who stay near the Bahnhofsviertel (I saw a specific weather forecast for that locale! . I remember their kino too, like bleachers at a high school baseball game.
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[QUOTE=Alchemist7744;1913794]Hi Pistons,
Do you mean Laura / Livia? Juicy's sister?
I would be interested to know if she is at the club.[/QUOTE]She is back since this past Wednesday.
Beffen, been there done that.
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[QUOTE=Alchemist7744;1913822]Was it this last Thursday (21st)?[/QUOTE]Yes ofcourse.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1913817]Looking from the girls' pov, can't blame them. They are there to make money, and maximize their earnings. I am looking to make the most money in my job, why should the girls be any different?
Wanting hour long sessions also makes sense. Girls have a pre and post session investment, so to speak. It is the time to circulate, spot a client, make small chat plus interview, collect key and walk up to the room, and post session wash up, make up and power the nose and all that. It could well be 20 min to half HR per session regardless of if it is half HR or one HR or 4 hrs. Clearly they want to maximize the ratio of the actual pay time, compared to the investment time.
Also, many guys who would not consider paying extra for kissing or DATY, are willing to commit to girls to spend an HR to obtain those services. I guess there is an implied upsell in agreeing to do one HR to access DFK and DATY, but that is OK for many customers.
I don't know what you can do if your monthly comp is two grand. It is easier to think in terms of how much it costs per trip. For me, this varies between 300 on the low side, and 600 on the high side, and that s because I don't do extras (CIM very occasionally and anal never). Obviously, you can do just a coup, e of half HR sessions and leave by spending just 170 (150 if you go there on the cheap days?) and perhaps if you are truly a regular, some girls are willing to provide decent service for just 50. Of course, we had a lot of discussion on some locals going on Sundays just to lounge around, watch a game and ogle at the girls and not wanting any sessions. Each to his own.[/QUOTE]My difficulty with a 1 HR session is that for the same amount of money I can have 2 girls instead of 1 and variety is why I pursue this hobby. In my over 100 FKK exploits I have only had one 1 HR session and that was about 5 years ago with an absolutely delightful Romanian called Simona. A girl has to be superlative in every respect for me to do a one hour session with her which means me ignoring other sexy dames who are awaiting my 50 E.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1914080]My difficulty with a 1 HR session is that for the same amount of money I can have 2 girls instead of 1 and variety is why I pursue this hobby. In my over 100 FKK exploits I have only had one 1 HR session and that was about 5 years ago with an absolutely delightful Romanian called Simona. A girl has to be superlative in every respect for me to do a one hour session with her which means me ignoring other sexy dames who are awaiting my 50 E.[/QUOTE]You get from how you behave for manners and time, with girls. I prefer to have only 2 good 1 hour rooms, than 4 rabbit, suck and fuck rooms. I was so happy to find my Isabella after 2 years, that I stayed 2 hours with her, which cost more than 5 hours and half in Germany. At Sharks and World, I had only 1 hour rooms with her, about 20 , but she improved her game and now we play like real little dogs, and fish.
Time for quality or many holes filled?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1914080] In my over 100 FKK exploits I have only had one 1 HR session and that was about 5 years ago with an absolutely delightful Romanian called Simona. [/QUOTE]Slim girl, small face with relatively big nose, and quite crazy in the room right? Used to have 2-hour sessions with her in 2012, as I too found this girl absolutely delightful. However, discovered that she was supporting a Romaniam boyfriend who picked her up on a motorbike every night, when I once saw him when I was leaving. It is quite a dampener when you have seen the person your money is going to.
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The problem is just that lots of the girls have boyfriends. At least 1/3. But probably higher. A bartender once said 90% to me, but thats way too much
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My Oase Experiences during June '16
During the month of June just passed, I had the chance to visit Oase multiple times. I interspersed my Oase visits with visits to Sharks. I basically limited my activity to BHH and Darmstadt, thinking both clubs had the best and most extensive line-ups in the area. Beyond that, I always feel better going to a place where I have built up a list of several Regular / favorite girls from past visits, so if I bombed out trying new girls (I. E. Got dud or mediocre sessions with girls I never tried before), I could fall back on "terra cognita" or known quantities so as not to leave unsatisfied. Thus Oase and Sharks filled my prescription.
Here I will concentrate on my June '16 experiences at Oase, a club much maligned of late including multiple reports of sub-par line-ups filled with 'bad apple' girls, who either offer bad service or medium service with lots of upsell, etc. Actually there has been a degree of "Oase-bashing" for at least a couple of years now, starting with various changes in the club during and post Mauro's renovation / expansion project. Let me just say that some of this is strictly a matter of subjective opinion (for example, how good or bad the line-up is) and you really can't know "the truth" until you yourself go and see with your own eyes.
Even though I have always loved this club since my first visit here way back in 2001 (some call me an "Oase-guy" but I used to be an "Atlantis-guy" and a "World-guy" too, and now I am also a "Sharks-guy" as well, so I guess I am a "Good Club-guy," LOL), I am not insensitive to negative changes in this club, so I agree that some of the negative comments are absolutely justified. But I also believe some of it is over-exaggerated and there is "negative-hype" and bashing going on.
I and others have already pointed out in previous posts that Oase possesses certain positive aspects that, as far as these specific points are concerned, rate this club higher than, say, Sharks: quality of rooms, number of mirror-rooms, coolness / ventilation of rooms, garden, etc. Note: Food is NOT a high point at Oase, this is clear. But some of us really don't give a toss about the food or at least consider it a minor point at best.
Bottom line: Based on my June visits I would not say this club is at its best these days. But it is NOT at its worst either, as many recent reporters seem to suggest.
General comment on the state of the Line-up at Oase in June '16: I paid several visits during late May / early June, then had a two week break, and re-visited a few times in the latter part of June. I found the line-up generally better in late May / early June than in latter June. Lots of regular and long-time girls at Oase, who were there in early June, were absent during late June / early July. (The Euro football thing at the end of the month may have cast a negative shadow on things) The girl numbers were down too, and there were, to my eyes, fewer new girl options that got me super-excited (but there were and there ALWAYS are some gems to be found if you are persistent, patient and approach things with positive attitude and open mind). For what it's worth, I thought the number of male guests was also generally down as well. Finally, over several visits here I have observed a negative trend in the line-up: No longer are there strong choices here early in the day, and even very late at night, the line-up now seems to struggle. What used to be strong points, now are weak.
My Sessions during late May / early June: The line-up was full of some super girls (for me, super, but maybe not for everybody, right?), with whom I had already strong relationships built up over repeated sessions over the past year or two. So it was nice to intersperse long, very exhilarating sessions (my regular girls) with shorter "test sessions" with new girls. Several of my "regular" girls are relatively known quantities on this thread, girls like: Czech Elizabeth, Hungarian Janette, petite Denisa (my Romanian "gypsy princess") or the even more petite Cora and a few others that have been often reviewed, described earlier posts over the past year both by myself and others. I will just say all these girls will remain strongly on my Repeat List, with exceptional commendations going to Janette and Denisa specifically for high GFE experiences that just keep getting deeper and more erotic with every visit. It's so nice visit a club knowing that these "finishers" are waiting for you late in the night when you need a trusted partner to get you over the line!
I did try a couple of girls for the first time: One was a platinum blonde girl named Sandy, who I've observed for at least a year working here on and off, but I never spoke to her before. If I remember correctly I've always encountered her in the first lounge room, to the right of the bar as you enter the club with Entrance on your left:
Sandy: Moderately petite, bottle-blonde longish hair (can be in pony tail) with smooth tanned skin and pretty face. Decent body, and sexy look. Honestly, I don't know why I went with her, because I got very little chemistry from her whilst chatting in the lounge for a few minutes. I suppose I thought I could melt her ice in the room, but alas she remained fairly distant and not that engaged. Sure, she ticked all the boxes like BBBJ, various positions, I don't remember about the kissing, but I think only light kissing. For me a lack-lustre session, and No Repeat.
My Sessions during late June / early July: I ended up trying more new girls / girls I'the never tried before because the line-up had degenerated over a few weeks and most of my Regular girls were MIA. On one weeknight visit during a big Euro football match, I thought the line-up was pretty dismal. Not one of my known girls was working. Necessity breeds innovation, so I went with new girls:
(Lud) Mila: Rather young (20 y. o. ?) dark-haired "Russian-German" girl, not my normal spec body wise: large, full-figured, slightly flabby. Face was okay, but not stunning, but the erotic vibe on the couch made me over-look (read: temporarily gloss over) the physical in hope of top performance. Im Zimmer: Yes we can! Above-average oral skills, both BBBJ (very good!) and (very) DFK. Tremendous erotic vibe during love-making with her, she seemed to be very engaged with me and what she was doing to me, and it was a very satisfying session. Maybe not the most stunning girl, but worth the session which I extended to 1 hour after several minutes of her intriguing BBBJ. I swore to myself I would repeat with her in a day or two when I re-visited, but interestingly I never did repeat, despite several opportunities. After she approached me again and again in future days and I failed to go with her in the room, I think she became pissed off at me and gave me cold stares. This kind of shit happens sometimes, eh?
Kami: Very attractive face, longish blond hair, tanned skin, sexy figure with good ass. I was able to get a glimmer of chemistry on the couch, enough to make me think there would be more than just optiks in the room. I was correct, I was able to build a nice bridge with her before with entered room and she performed better than others I had recently tried for the first time: DFK was there! BBBJ was great and she adjusted her strength, depth and pace according to my wishes. She was good in RC and doggy. This ended up a one-hour session, and well worth it. It was late at night, I had not seen her in the club at all earlier so she must have been busy for the prime time hours. She was relaxed and focused on me. We got along and communicated personally very well, which certainly plays a big role in the end result. I looked for her to repeat on other visits, but didn't see her.
Krina: Long-time girl, rather well known by Oase regulars, I think, who I had actually sessioned with before (must have been at least 4 years ago) but forgot. She was okay in Zimmer when she first started, but now: WOW, WOW and WOW! I love this girl. Great DFK! Top-notch BBBJ, indeed one of the best oral providers I've encountered for a long time. (Thank God, I popped after an hour, or I would still be extending the session now, just for that BBBJ! She has such a sweet and nice personality, curvy body with most pleasing breasts and skin. Repeat: I did three visits running! Note: She works day-shift and finishes by 22.00. She commented that she does NOT like Saturdays.
And then there was this girl:
Kiara (I am really not 100% about the correct name or spelling): If you were in this club during the latter half of June, most likely you will have noticed this girl: Very white skin, but heavily tattooed. She has extremely long, very healthy thick and well looked after hair, hair that is a vivid orange red, clearly not natural colour. She has the demeanor of a girl who is extremely confident in what she does, but not arrogant or over-bearing in any way. Probably way outside my normal spec, but I learned it is good sometimes to go off-menu (or ski off-piste), I normally would not have zimmered with her but the line-up that day was so dismal with so few other choices for me, I took the plunge: Oh, best decision I made all week! This girl delivered the most erotic performance I had all year (maybe two years?). And this from a girl who announced clearly, right from the start of our interaction, that she firmly did not kiss. No kissing even for extended time in the room. It was just off the menu. Fair enough, but I normally seek / need / want DFK. However, I felt the firmness / confidence of a top session to come with her, even before I entered the room. So throwing caution (and DFK) to the wind, I entered one of the mirrored rooms (high 20's) telling her I wanted to go slow and steady. She showed me a new definition of a slow, erotic blow job. So, so, slow she sucked and touched me, so erotic were her techniques. Little did I realise that after the first hour was up, I was nowhere near ready to let her go, so for the first time in a long time, I extended to two hours. It was good for two pops, I think she would have let me pop more if I could, but I was amazed she got me to cum twice in two consecutive hours. Normally I never thought I could without a good break in between. Shows the power of the erotic vibe in your mind!
Kiara Notes: I saw her at the very end of June. She said she was going to stop working at the club and go back to her native Romania for a holiday. I had certainly never seen her before, and she said she had worked at Oase for a month or so last year (or was it 2014?) and then had blonde hair. Over the past year or more she has been mainly working in one of the larger RLDs in Belgium. Who would have thought, a RLD window girl would be able to deliver such a powerhouse erotic performance? I will probably not see her again, unless I go walking the windows in that Belgian city, but I would repeat with her in a heartbeat.
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Ortos. Excellent example of what the Forum should be. Clear, informative and full of the serendipity which happens in FKK Thanks.
You are right that on the big match nights in the Euro 2016 cup, lineup was down in pretty much all clubs and pay sex venues.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1914125]Slim girl, small face with relatively big nose, and quite crazy in the room right? Used to have 2-hour sessions with her in 2012, as I too found this girl absolutely delightful. However, discovered that she was supporting a Romaniam boyfriend who picked her up on a motorbike every night, when I once saw him when I was leaving. It is quite a dampener when you have seen the person your money is going to.[/QUOTE]That's her, alright. She had a really lovely body. She was a darling, I had excellent chemistry with her. I also loved Michelle from Switzerland, had numerous sessions with her in which the Kamasutra could have learned something from us. I also enjoyed the kegel skills of Sunny. Ahh! Oase's golden age.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1914142]The problem is just that lots of the girls have boyfriends. At least 1/3. But probably higher. A bartender once said 90% to me, but thats way too much[/QUOTE]But this 90 % are much closer on reality than your 1/3. My guess also 90%, it get less after WGs over 30 yo.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1914179] I also loved Michelle from Switzerland, had numerous sessions with her in which the Kamasutra could have learned something from us. I also enjoyed the kegel skills of Sunny. Ahh! Oase's golden age.[/QUOTE]Yep Michelle from Blasel and German Sunny have worked at Oase golden age there. But tastes are different both weren't my type.
Thanks Ortos, really great report and what I appreciate is always your respectful style.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1914142]The problem is just that lots of the girls have boyfriends. At least 1/3. But probably higher. A bartender once said 90% to me, but thats way too much[/QUOTE]What percentage of super hot real life girls do you know who have boyfriends or are married? At least that same percentage would apply to these Romanian girls. I say at least since may be higher for working girls since their "man" got them into the business.
Agree with Craiova will be much closer to 90% than 33%.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1914208]What percentage of super hot real life girls do you know who have boyfriends or are married? At least that same percentage would apply to these Romanian girls. I say at least since may be higher for working girls since their "man" got them into the business.
Agree with Craiova will be much closer to 90% than 33%.[/QUOTE]We are all guessing but I think it is much less than 90%, probably less than 50%. Many of these girls do not want boyfriends because of their jobs. Of the ones who live in the clubs, most probably do not. After talking to so many girls, this job becomes their lives for a little while. They spend 5 days working and on the 2 days off, they sleep for 20 hrs / day! It is hard to be in a relationship when you fuck 10 men a day and your mind is on making money to save for life and family.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1914201]Yep Michelle from Blasel [/QUOTE]LOL!! That is fucking (ooops, wrong adjective!) funny, for those who remember her signiture Blasen style: squating like a "catcher" in American Baseball, but with her generous mouth wrapped lovingly around your erection, her hands on your hips. Good one!
BTW, some of us "old-timers" might suggest the "golden age" at Oase was a few years before Michelle or Sunny. Remember Sunny as a skinny girl with dark hair and a very naughty style? There were hot times well before that.
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Ortos,
Thanks for the detailed and very fair report. I can't disagree with anything. Okay Your girl selection is not exactly the same as mine, perhaps a slightly broader selection but I can certainly understand your selections very easily.
I met Mila and her face is quite nice. Denisa is getting quite famous and must be rated as one of the top girls by now, even I never tried her, I only hear good reports. Cora also seems to be getting popular.
Likewise I prefer my regulars and sometimes try something new. I think the line up has already started improving again. The World Cup time was a temporary decline most likely.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1914270] The World Cup time was a temporary decline most likely.[/QUOTE]Stick to Rugby or Cricket, mate! :)
Denisa has been a top girl for me ever since I first sessioned with her, must be at least 2.something years ago. She's become my, you know, "Me-and-Mrs-Jones" Girl: We gotta thiiiiing goin' on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2v98PGBZH4&nohtml5=False
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQhRKR2Vp1o&nohtml5=False
Cora will go the extra mile with you, if she wants to...ask UltraHappy.
:)
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1914201]Yep Michelle from Blasel [/QUOTE](c) HB. But also not my type.
Simona was great. Her BF wasn't Romanian.
HB.
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Ortos: I think Denisa has a thiiing going on with a zillion guys hehe. She is easy to get along with and smiles all the time...
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I don't want to write on the boards why I said 1/3. But it is deffinately is below 50% as Takedown points out too.
Oh, and don't forget lots of these girls are not at all beautiful in my eyes. More or less at different clubs too, so depends on what you count by also...
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1914297]Ortos: I think Denisa has a thiiing going on with a zillion guys hehe. [/QUOTE]You cannot be serious! Shit, it never crossed my mind that she might be fucking other guys. OMG!
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Strange mysteries of the universe
[QUOTE=Ortos;1914278]
Cora will go the extra mile with you, if she wants to...ask UltraHappy.
:)[/QUOTE]I regret to inform those Cora fans out there that she mysteriously left Oase Friday night, July 1st. She packed her bags and left in the middle of the night. Not even her roommates saw her leave or knew she was leaving until after she mysteriously disappeared in the middle of the night. Very strange. No one knows why she left or where she went.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1914330]I regret to inform those Cora fans out there that she mysteriously left Oase Friday night, July 1st. She packed her bags and left in the middle of the night. Not even her roommates saw her leave or knew she was leaving until after she mysteriously disappeared in the middle of the night. Very strange. No one knows why she left or where she went.[/QUOTE]This is what going the extra mile as has been said is all about.
May be just a case of management subjective decision relocation.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1914223]We are all guessing but I think it is much less than 90%, probably less than 50%. Many of these girls do not want boyfriends because of their jobs. Of the ones who live in the clubs, most probably do not. After talking to so many girls, this job becomes their lives for a little while. They spend 5 days working and on the 2 days off, they sleep for 20 hrs / day! It is hard to be in a relationship when you fuck 10 men a day and your mind is on making money to save for life and family.[/QUOTE]It is closer to 90%.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1914302]I don't want to write on the boards why I said 1/3. But it is deffinately is below 50% as Takedown points out too.
[/QUOTE]Definitely? Any reliable sources? For girls under 25 I'd say it's way above.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1914223]We are all guessing but I think it is much less than 90%, probably less than 50%. Many of these girls do not want boyfriends because of their jobs. Of the ones who live in the clubs, most probably do not. After talking to so many girls, this job becomes their lives for a little while. They spend 5 days working and on the 2 days off, they sleep for 20 hrs / day! It is hard to be in a relationship when you fuck 10 men a day and your mind is on making money to save for life and family.[/QUOTE]BF or pimp / fish? How do these girls arrive, from far deep Romania, to Oase or Sharks or other clubs? Do they find address by themselves at school? How do they pay the first travel? What about pimping girls who are in clubs? Of course, it s more attractive to claim: I m free, and also for You. But I think only a few are really free to decide. I often hear girls crying when phoning, I experienced with Karolina who is polish.
This business is made of lies.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1914403]It is closer to 90%.[/QUOTE]I can amend my statement since this is an Oase board and I know much less about Oase than places like Sharks. Perhaps it is that high at Oase, I have not been there enough to say that certain.
But how are you so certain? I provided my reasoning below, but what is yours? Again, we are all guessing but 90% is a ridiculous estimate.
Sirioja, the cost is not that high to start. Girls do not need visas from most countries in EU. Some do not fly from Romania. They arrive by car or train and sleep at the clubs, so the start up cost is not very high. As far as where they hear about the job, well, it is 2016. Information is readily available to those who seek it. It makes its way to people in need of money. While pimping exists, the members of this board over-hype the prevalence of it.
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I might have been misstaken, but I am pretty sure I saw Cora on Saturday and she is on Syz list as well from Saturday night, so her leaving on Friday sounds odd. Perhaps for the night though.
The standard story among the girls is that they have a friend from childhood who also works in fkk. Perhaps it was this friend who bought the first airline ticket... but yes, we all know lots of them have pimps or bf's. Most of the time the pimps are their bf's, but not allways. Still 33-50% is a very high amount of them...
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As I explain to my girls, no friend in FKK, only jealousy and lies, between girls and same for guys.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1914434]How do these girls arrive, from far deep Romania, to Oase or Sharks or other clubs? Do they find address by themselves at school? [/QUOTE]How did you find the addresses from all those FKK clubs you visited all the way from France? Did a pimp trick you and lure you to Darmstadt in your Porsche? Many girls find out from other girls or can use an internet search engine, just like you probably found out from other customers or some internet forum.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1914434]I often hear girls crying when phoning, I experienced with Karolina who is polish.
[/QUOTE]Oh please Siroja, stop the emo-bullshit. Look, I'm not going to say it's an easy job, but at the same time lots of these girls are attracted to the bling-bling of fast money and already have a very superficial and let's say "basic" concept of life in general. In a nutshell: they are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, just like some ugly guys who end up marrying a good looking gold digger and then get taken to the cleaners during the divorce a few years later.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1914434]
This business is made of lies.[/QUOTE]Congratulations! Thank you for kicking in an already open door and stating an obvious fact!
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I have to admit to this now I feel, but I once paid a pimp to go and get Siri from France in order for him to become a regular forumer on ISG. That was I could up my postcount faster by responding to him.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1914664]I might have been mistaken, but I am pretty sure I saw Cora on Saturday and she is on Syz list as well from Saturday night, so her leaving on Friday sounds odd. Perhaps for the night though.
[/QUOTE]That very well might be. My report indicated that her mysterious, abrupt departure was on Friday, July 1st, almost a month ago. So, perhaps she has returned now. Since she left in the middle of her shift (without having the little metal thing on her armband), it seemed like she intended to leave without coming back. On top of that, she left without saying anything to her upstairs roommates. The other girls woke up the next morning to find her and her bags simply having disappeared.
The weirdest thing about her departure was leaving a customer in the Kino, simply saying, "I'll be back in a minute," never to return again -- not even to collect her money that she was owed for the half hour she spent in the Kino with that customer! I have never witnessed a girl leaving a customer after a full half hour without even asking to get her money she was owed. Very strange indeed.
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I definitely reassure that Cora is in Oase and I was in room with her yesterday. She is back in Oase since about 10 days.
However, she told me that she will have to go somewhere else (no club, other reasons) in a few days (but will come back then in a few weeks).
So here my recommendation to all fans of Cora:
I'm a Cora fan myself and I know there are some other fans around. I know when she will leave, but I will not write here the exact day. But if someone wants to meet her before her holiday, it is a good advice to visit her either today (Friday) or tomorrow (Saturday). She will be there on these days; but note that she usually starts to work not in the early morning but in the afternoon.
Maybe this information helps some of those who look for Cora and like Cora as much as I do.
Frankfurt1971
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I must correct myself, I was a little crazy about the days when I got up.
Of course Cora is also here today (Thursday).
So if someone wants to visit her, he has at least three chances: today (Thursday), tomorrow (Friday) and also Saturday. She will be definitively there on those days according to the high quality information I have.
More details I cannot write here.
Frankfurt1971
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1914654]Sirioja, the cost is not that high to start. Girls do not need visas from most countries in EU. Some do not fly from Romania. They arrive by car or train and sleep at the clubs, so the start up cost is not very high. As far as where they hear about the job, well, it is 2016. Information is readily available to those who seek it. It makes its way to people in need of money. While pimping exists, the members of this board over-hype the prevalence of it.[/QUOTE]How a 20 yo girl, living in Moldovan Romania, with no job, can buy a car? Or pay bus, or train, or plane, pay 120 for entry to work? Travel and first entry cost 1 month working in Romanian country, for those who are lucky to get a job. Do girls ask for studies credit at the bank? Pimps are not always in the Mercedes, waiting in the parking. Keep on believing girls are free to decide.
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[QUOTE=HornyHarry;1914721]How did you find the addresses from all those FKK clubs you visited all the way from France? Did a pimp trick you and lure you to Darmstadt in your Porsche? Many girls find out from other girls or can use an internet search engine, just like you probably found out from other customers or some internet forum.
Oh please Siroja, stop the emo-bullshit. Look, I'm not going to say it's an easy job, but at the same time lots of these girls are attracted to the bling-bling of fast money and already have a very superficial and let's say "basic" concept of life in general. In a nutshell: they are not the brightest bulbs in the chandelier, just like some ugly guys who end up marrying a good looking gold digger and then get taken to the cleaners during the divorce a few years later.
Congratulations! Thank you for kicking in an already open door and stating an obvious fact![/QUOTE]Do I live in Iasie or Braila? Do I make less than 300 € per month? These girls don t come from Bucharest or Constanza, where they could find a job, but from the Romanian country with misery, where they can t make money, to live. I agree they are not the cleverest, but never heard a Romanian or Bulgarian girl saying to me, she chose this job because she enjoys to be fucked, but You can keep eyes and ears closed, if you feel more comfortable.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1914654]I can amend my statement since this is an Oase board and I know much less about Oase than places like Sharks. Perhaps it is that high at Oase, I have not been there enough to say that certain.
But how are you so certain? I provided my reasoning below, but what is yours? Again, we are all guessing but 90% is a ridiculous estimate.[/QUOTE]Sorry there isn't any difference between Oase and Sharks at that issue. It's more or less same at all clubs. I can't see even a significant difference between nationalities. Only the percentage at older girls is lower. But in general the percentage is close to 90%. There is nothing ridiculous about this. How to know? Very easy many ways find out, experience, you can use FB, or the way I do I ask my long time club favs about this and let her guess and always comes in that question a percentage close to 90%.
And one last hint for you the three most lies from club girls to clients is about nationality, age and no I have no BF, ofc if you count all these fake statements than. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1915566]Do I live in Iasie or Braila? Do I make less than 300 per month? These girls don t come from Bucharest or Constanza, where they could find a job, but from the Romanian country with misery, where they can t make money, to live. I agree they are not the cleverest, but never heard a Romanian or Bulgarian girl saying to me, she chose this job because she enjoys to be fucked, but You can keep eyes and ears closed, if you feel more comfortable.[/QUOTE]And you you can sell your Porsche, give all your money to some feminist group, and become a monk. No sex, only Bible reading! You will feel enlightened.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1915566]You can keep eyes and ears closed, if you feel more comfortable.[/QUOTE]So how do YOU live with all that 'guilt?" How do YOU sleep comfortably at night? Oh wait, you're so bloody special (French!) that all girls think it's an honour to get fucked by you? All Girls love your garlic breath, and will probably say at the end of the session: "oh noooo Monsieur Siroja, you don't need to pay me! You're sooooo special, but all [i]other[/i] men are pigs!
I'm not closing my eyes for anything, but reality is that there are MANY people (both male and female) in this world that do shitty jobs in order to be able to pay the bills at the end of the month. Do you think that the people cleaning toilets and collecting garbage do this job because they it was their dream job?! Do you think people enjoy standing in the greasy smell of a hamburger 'restaurant' all day long for a minimum wage, paying taxes and "protection money" to their "pimp" which is the government?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1915566]Do I live in Iasie or Braila? Do I make less than 300 per month?[/QUOTE]Why are you so arrogant to think that you're the only person able to use Google and look for prostitutes or an FKK club? You honestly think that those girls don't have a TV or read magazines and don't know that they can make a lot of money in Germany? You really think that these girls can not pay for a cheap bus or train ticket themselves and find the way to an FKK club?
Sorry folks for being off topic here, but all of Siroja's THOUSANDS of stupid ramblings so far (about "Madi," and "angels" and more bla bla bla) have also contributed very little useful information, other than spreading his 'moral superiority' and hypocritical preachings, but of course he will only deliver his sermon [u]after[/u] he has finished fucking "all those poor girls."
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1915683]And you you can sell your Porsche, give all your money to some feminist group, and become a monk. No sex, only Bible reading! You will feel enlightened.[/QUOTE]Exactly! Tell this hypocrite idiot to put his money where his big mouth is!
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1914223]Many of these girls do not want boyfriends because of their jobs. Of the ones who live in the clubs, most probably do not.[/QUOTE]Years back at Paradise, a WG insisted to me "I have no BF, no fish. I can do what I want!" I responded by rolling my eyes. A few weeks later, I make a visit to the club around opening time, and I see a black BMW with RO license plates drive past me. I continue to sit in the car answering work emails. This same WG walks up to the driver side door in her pajamas and hands a small bag to the male driver. There interaction seemed normal--certainly not like a couple that had been separated for months. So to the clients she says "I have no man". To the Polizei, she probably says that is her "boyfriend".
Once I saw one of my regulars arrive by taxi to her Hessen club. Later that day in the room, I asked her: "How come your BF didn't take you to work today?" She responded: "How many times I must tell you. I have no BF!" She didn't know that I had already seen her FB page before. Her relationship status was "Married". Her husband's page was even less locked down. Based on photos and status updates, I could tell that he was making drives between RO and DE ever 3-4 weeks--sometimes with the WG, other times without.
Multiple times she offered to show me around Romania if I paid all her expenses. We even talked about dates and logistics, because I wanted to see if she was serious. I mean I knew what her man looked like. If I had followed through with the trip to RO, I am sure she would have probably introduced this man to me as her brother. Or I would have seen this man wearing a fake Romanian police officer uniform as he was trying to shake me down for some money. Who knows. Haha.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1915683]And you you can sell your Porsche, give all your money to some feminist group, and become a monk. No sex, only Bible reading! You will feel enlightened.[/QUOTE]Try to put ski or a bike in a 911. Only a toy for men with balls, to push the limits, but not the fastest rockets on autobahns.
For my guilt, I don t sleep anymore, that s why I have more time to enjoy, than others, and no need for me to be jealous, because I have all the prettiest girls, behaving like GF, due to my behavior with them. Just easy game.
Even fast money, no more difficult job than being fucked all day.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1915554]How a 20 yo girl, living in Moldovan Romania, with no job, can buy a car? Or pay bus, or train, or plane, pay 120 for entry to work? Travel and first entry cost 1 month working in Romanian country, for those who are lucky to get a job. Do girls ask for studies credit at the bank? Pimps are not always in the Mercedes, waiting in the parking. Keep on believing girls are free to decide.[/QUOTE]Romanians are poor, not beggers. Even in Romania, it is not hard to save for a train ticket and have 500 Euro in your pocket and start working at FKK.
For all of your hours in rooms with girls, I don't think you know as much as you think you do about their personal lives.
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I understand that pimping and boyfriends are sometimes the case, maybe even up to half. I also have a half dozen WGs on FB and only one is married and a few others have pictures with different men / boys every few months. So they may be dating, but serious relationships are definitely not 90% like others suggest.
Then there are ones who hang outside of the clubs. For free. Gasp! It happens, regularly! There is a monger who is in Romania right NOW with 2 Goldentime girls with him on holiday. He is not a rich man. He has no money to pay for them for 2 weeks. The girls are actually friends with him.
And then there are the girls who really only plan on doing this for a couple of years and they grind hard to save money away to either pay for their parents' lives or support a fatherless baby. They are the ones who are there 6-7 days a week from open to close. And unless some of you are very wealthy, many of these girls have more cash saved away than you have in your checking / savings account. Not all guys pay the standard 50/100 Euro session prices. Many give these girls hundreds for an hour of just talking.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1915727]Years back at Paradise, a WG insisted to me "I have no BF, no fish. I can do what I want!" I responded by rolling my eyes. A few weeks later, I make a visit to the club around opening time, and I see a black BMW with RO license plates drive past me. I continue to sit in the car answering work emails. This same WG walks up to the driver side door in her pajamas and hands a small bag to the male driver. There interaction seemed normal--certainly not like a couple that had been separated for months. So to the clients she says "I have no man". To the Polizei, she probably says that is her "boyfriend".
Once I saw one of my regulars arrive by taxi to her Hessen club. Later that day in the room, I asked her: "How come your BF didn't take you to work today?" She responded: "How many times I must tell you. I have no BF!" She didn't know that I had already seen her FB page before. Her relationship status was "Married". Her husband's page was even less locked down. Based on photos and status updates, I could tell that he was making drives between RO and DE ever 3-4 weeks--sometimes with the WG, other times without.
Multiple times she offered to show me around Romania if I paid all her expenses. We even talked about dates and logistics, because I wanted to see if she was serious. I mean I knew what her man looked like. If I had followed through with the trip to RO, I am sure she would have probably introduced this man to me as her brother. Or I would have seen this man wearing a fake Romanian police officer uniform as he was trying to shake me down for some money. Who knows. Haha.[/QUOTE]
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Indeed, 50% is a high number. And we don't argue that lots of these girls have BF's or pimps outside of their jobs. I've even met a bunsh of these pimps inside the clubs, and they've asked me to buy one of their girls. They even gave me a price for her.
But I also have some of them on facebook, and I see they have lots of other friends who also work at the same club. So I can check them up as well. Some have kicked out their pimps or boyfriends who are / were sometimes 10-20 years older than them. Some are married and openly shows it with their kids on facebook. True all that. But as Takedown says, if you work 6-7 days a week, chances are that you don't have a pimp or a boyfriend. If you work 3-4 days a week and you arrive late or leave early, then chances are that you have a pimp or a boyfriend. Lazy girls who gives bad service also has a higher vhance of having a pimp than girls who gives good service. Though I do know at least 2 married FKK girls that does great service. So generalization is not allways a fact.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1915746]Romanians are poor, not beggers. Even in Romania, it is not hard to save for a train ticket and have 500 Euro in your pocket and start working at FKK.
For all of your hours in rooms with girls, I don't think you know as much as you think you do about their personal lives.[/QUOTE]500 € are 2 months for salary for many Romanians. How do You save money when You don t have a job and your parents don t have a job. For my many hours in room with same girls, I don t speak about their personal life in room, because I m not interested by their "true?" personal life, but most tell me about their personal life, even knowing I m a writer, because they know I never write about our rooms or " at home" things. I prefer to believe what girls say when they just start, rather than when they become too business girls, and then even I enjoyed with them, not attracted anymore by too many lies which kill my desire.
But I would be so happy if FKK girls, even German girls with Turkish or Albanian BF, were really free to decide, like I am, and also keep money they make, only for them, not for the Mercedes taxi, or a house they are not the owner. But I m a dreamer, used not to believe everything.
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I have said this before. I don't want to hear a lot of lies or bullshit from girls. It would spoil my experience. I therefore do not ask them personal questions. They only speak about topics of their own choosing, only occasional personal stuff but innocent normal stuff mostly. That way it is not necessary for them to make up bullshit.
Concentrate on the experience with the girl. She can decide what we will talk about when the mouth is not too busy. Philippina May did want to interview me first before selecting me as her next victim. LOL. Really good fun session. I hope my service was okay For her. Will she want to repeat? What do I know about her personal stuff. Almost Zero. Was not important. Okay She tells me she is only part time as like a hobby at first. We talk about what we like and style and character. About having some fun. Not at all a typical girl. Completely strange for Oase.
In Sharks I saw two girls (always together) dropped off in BMW by two guys. Do I ask these girls any questions about it? None at all. I don't want to know if boyfriends, pimps or whatever. I don't want girl to need to come up with a story. What will be the usefulness?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1915782] if you work 6-7 days a week, chances are that you don't have a pimp or a boyfriend. If you work 3-4 days a week and you arrive late or leave early, then chances are that you have a pimp or a boyfriend. Lazy girls who gives bad service also has a higher vhance of having a pimp than girls who gives good service. [/QUOTE]You have no clue at all. Girls giving great service to almost every guy, working long hours (12-14) and almost every day are the pimped ones. That's the only way to make the money they have to make. That's how it is. Seen this often enough.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1915882]You have no clue at all. Girls giving great service to almost every guy, working long hours (12-14) and almost every day are the pimped ones. That's the only way to make the money they have to make. That's how it is. Seen this often enough.
HB.[/QUOTE]Of course, because BF / pimp ask them such money per day. Girls who work only one day in a week to buy shoes, may have real BF, not a small dick pimp asking them to make 700 each day, to pay his Mercedes, and pimps are not always in Germany, some "take care" of the family.
Some believe too much girls, here, they should just open eyes, I remember a member saying to me: Evita loves Asians for real, make me laugh, just easy business and she is clever for this.
FKK land of lies and illusion.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1915882]You have no clue at all. Girls giving great service to almost every guy, working long hours (12-14) and almost every day are the pimped ones. That's the only way to make the money they have to make. That's how it is. Seen this often enough.
HB.[/QUOTE]I assumed his post was supposed to be Satire or irony. I. e. Exactly opposite of what he meant. However cannot be sure and I sure love satire as a writing device in general. That was my bad attempt at Satire. I actually dislike it. Its not very funny at all. Just confusing. Hard to be sure what he believes, even he does make actual sentences. Maybe its Satire.
The less girls work, the more I believe they have other things to do in their life, and need to rest the body more than make money all the time.
I guess Isabella cannot have a pimp since she gave up the sex work to become the manicurist. I did not need the proof. I never pondered this question. Alina became a receptionist, and Alicia. So sure not every girl has a pimp. I think we get too carried away with pimp speculation. Why try to be expert on this topic? I just admit to knowing little about most girls other than their look.
Even for performance the girls perform quite differently for different customers. We can only say what the girl is capable of when she wants to provide it. I accept that Laura/Livia is great for some but useless for me. On the other hand Carla may be ordinary for some in 30 mins but fantastic for me with no faults at all, high stamina, and well worth extended bookings. I have to thank some forum members for really pushing me to try.
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One advantage of the Sharks club for girls was the ability to work whenever they wanted to. Very few days per week was allowable and start any time.
Do I detect that Oase rules have also relaxed with some girls working more part time and now seeing girls arrive much later than 5 pm?
Maybe Oase rules are less strict than before although full flexibility of finish time may not be there yet. At Sharks, girls can leave when they had enough.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1915845]In Sharks I saw two girls (always together) dropped off in BMW by two guys. Do I ask these girls any questions about it? None at all. I don't want to know if boyfriends, pimps or whatever. I don't want girl to need to come up with a story. What will be the usefulness?[/QUOTE]Generally a WG asks me a personal question first. Then I just bounce the same question back to be polite. With some WGs I repeat with often, relationship status becomes a running joke.
For instance, one WG is convinced I am married. She doesn't tease me about it each time I see her, because it would get old and cease to be funny. But a few months back she playful pinned me down and threatened to jab me in the ribs until I confessed, "say me the truth! We were both laughing hysterically.
With the second WG I mentioned, she said "when you come see me in Romania? When she does that, I just humor her back and start asking questions about dates. She is also convinced I am married and thus won't be able to fit it into my schedule. So she is calling my bluff. Essentially she is "joshing" me. Because she thinks I will be the first to back down. If I am the one to back down, she starts teasing me with a smile "See, because you are married!
Of course, there are other girls I have seen get dropped off in BMWs too and I never utter a word about it. Either I don't know them well or I find them to be too serious.
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Pistons,
When HB directs the statement "You have no clue at all" (as he has done to me in the past), you know that you have become a bandwidth waster. Welcome to the club!
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1915902]I assumed his post was supposed to be Satire or irony. I. e. Exactly opposite of what he meant. However cannot be sure and I sure love satire as a writing device in general. That was my bad attempt at Satire. I actually dislike it. Its not very funny at all. Just confusing. Hard to be sure what he believes, even he does make actual sentences. Maybe its Satire.[/QUOTE]I think he means exactly what he wrote and I agree because we are on the side that most girls are independent and not pimped. Working 6-7 days a week does not necessarily mean that you are a slave to a pimp. Like I said, many girls are "grinding" so they can leave the business in one or two years; that is why they are there all of the time. It is work and they work when they are in Germany and relax when they are home every other month.
Like I said, many of these girls have more cash money than most of you guys, not only because they take home 250-1000 Euro every day without being tax, they make even more money from their sugar daddies or VIP customers that see them outside of the club. The 50 E /100 E that you see the girls make in the FKK clubs is often only the "tip of the iceberg" of the girls' income.
Piston's point that the girls who only work 3-4 days a week being the ones that have boyfriends makes sense to me. When you only work those few days, you actually have time for a life, but not when you work 6-7 days a week, just like us "normal" people.
I am beginning to wonder if some of you older guys are just not in touch with the realities of these girls. Maybe with age, you don't necessarily attain wisdom, as your past experiences are persuading you to make assumptions instead of actually making new unbiased judgement based on reality.
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It was not satire. But there is a difference between pimped girls, and girls that are married who works for their husband and kids at the same time. Those who works for their husband and kids works alot and normally gives great service to all. Those who have a pimp sometimes stay long hours, but gives bad service to many. As they see their money lost anyway. Then there is the bulk in the middle where it all comes down to the personal level.
McAdonis: HB has allways been a bit full of himself... I would actually say HB has no clue as to the pimped girls... he confuses them with the married girls...
But I agree with syz, lets not try to be experts.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1915751]
Then there are ones who hang outside of the clubs. For free. Gasp! It happens, regularly! There is a monger who is in Romania right NOW with 2 Goldentime girls with him on holiday. He is not a rich man. He has no money to pay for them for 2 weeks. The girls are actually friends with him.
[/QUOTE]I never really suggested that WGs don't hang out for free. One guy I know (who speaks Portuguese) used to hang out with the Brazilian WG that he met in an FKK. He told me he would just go over to watch movies and eat together. He told me if he wanted to fuck, that she insisted on payment. Another guy I know hangs out with the girls for free too, but he acknowledges that it may simply be a "customer loyalty reward" for being a generous customer. Nevertheless it is free. I've heard of non-rich customers who married FKK girls (not first hand accounts). This guy who is vacationing with two GT girls in RO seems to have hit the jackpot. More power to him.
[QUOTE=Takedown;1915751]
Not all guys pay the standard 50/100 Euro session prices. Many give these girls hundreds for an hour of just talking.[/QUOTE]I have heard of such guys only anectdotally through the girls. She mentioned an old French customer that supposedly gave her 350 once and 500 once. Both times he just had a one hour room. At most she performed 15 minutes of massage. Some guys are open to me about how much they spend and tip, but never met a customer that openly admitted to being as generous as above-mentioned French customer.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1915925]This guy who is vacationing with two GT girls in RO seems to have hit the jackpot. More power to him.[/QUOTE]He is sending me pictures from Mamiai Beach on WhatsApp, LOL. I'll have to show you when we run into each other at the clubs. Makes me jealous.[QUOTE=McAdonis;1915925]
I have heard of such guys only anectdotally through the girls. She mentioned an old French customer that supposedly gave her 350 once and 500 once. Both times he just had a one hour room. At most she performed 15 minutes of massage. Some guys are open to me about how much they spend and tip, but never met a customer that openly admitted to being as generous as above-mentioned French customer.[/QUOTE]That is indeed over generous. I often see guys pay 150 E for 100 E. Sometimes they take her for 2 hours and pay double (400 E). I only know for sure because I have a favorite and tells me these things. When I said that I didn't believe her, she told me to watch them by the locker and see how long the guys are actually in the room and look at the money. I was sitting on the couch by the lockers and sure enough, after he paid her, she showed me the cash before going into the locker room.
You would not think it, but the Japanese guys are some of the most generous ones.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1915921]It I would actually say HB has no clue as to the pimped girls... he confuses them with the married girls...
[/QUOTE]I don't. I've seen many girls enter and leave the business. I know the fates and CV's of quite a few of them. No stories. Reality. No confusion. You don't have to believe me. It's nothing to be spread in detail on a public sex board.
Great service doesn't imply that the girl is pimped. Poor service doesn't imply that the girl is not. But what I wrote in my last post is correct.
HB.
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HB's views match my limited experience: the girls who were most desperate for clients tended to be the ones who seemed to have pimps; ones who had bruises repeatedly, who had to phone a man after each session to say how much they had earned, who didn't know where they lived, who had men staying in their rooms sleeping all day and fucking them for hours on their return home after work, who made comments about being watched in the club, and so on. As Pistons says, this could be confused with being married, but sometimes the two patterns of behaviour of husband and pimp overlap massively..
The girls who were relaxed enough to take several hours out for sauna, or sort of private party in the club with their fellow workers were, to the best of my knowledge, ones without pimps. These had post sex-work longterm plans which they stuck to.
Just indicates that service levels and hours worked is no guide to whether or not a girl is under any kind of external pressure.
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Did you get great service from those who claimed to be watched? Or those who phoned their 'friends'? To me, those allways made up the so called 'labor union' of the girls not wanting to do this and that. So they upsell. Maybe because then the excessive upsold amount could be taken away from the logged total not handed over to the pimp?
Now those who are married, and I know at least 3 very good providers who are married with kids together with their lovely husband, allways seems to not upsell, and are happy with the standard pay...
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Pistons.
Your first paragraph. They never tried to upsell and tended to give good service, but not all. Of course I tried only to engage good providers so I guess my answer proves nothing.
The few married girls I went with also never seemed to upsell or exploit. But again maybe that was a function of my choosing process rather than anything else.
All guesswork.
Cheers
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Optimist, you really do write some great stuff.
[QUOTE=Optimist;1916048]HB's views match my limited experience: the girls who were most desperate for clients tended to be the ones who seemed to have pimps; ones who had bruises repeatedly, who had to phone a man after each session to say how much they had earned, who didn't know where they lived, who had men staying in their rooms sleeping all day and fucking them for hours on their return home after work, who made comments about being watched in the club, and so on. As Pistons says, this could be confused with being married, but sometimes the two patterns of behaviour of husband and pimp overlap massively..
.[/QUOTE]There is a great Documentary or movie to be made about what you described there.
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Thanks Wanking.
Confusing English in my writing. I should have said "and" the two behaviours of pimps and husbands can overlap, not "but".
I know one husband who used to keep his sexworker wife's accounts :)
Sorry for continuing off topic.
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Since members to have strong opinions on the percentages, the next step should be listing which girls you think have a boyfriend and who does and't and have a go at it. That would be more fun than discussing this in abstract.
Obligatory LOL.
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Ask for help
I have a good session with Kitty last time.
But seems like she doesn't work every day.
Does anybody saw her recently?
I plan to visit Oase on August.
Hope to see her then.
Thanks!
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We were also discussing all FKK's in general, and not just Oase here I assumed. But the naming seems a bit too much. Perhaps off the forum in a group conversation instead? LOL.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1916278]Since members to have strong opinions on the percentages, the next step should be listing which girls you think have a boyfriend and who does and't and have a go at it. That would be more fun than discussing this in abstract.
Obligatory LOL.[/QUOTE]No idea about percentage for me, but too many WGs and not only Romanians or Bulgarians, also many Germans. Taxi drivers / BF or husbands with children, who live from WGs money, are just pimp for me. I would prefer to be poor as a beggar, than to have my GF or wife being fucked by other guys and coming back with money, just shame for mind.
There are also pimp girls in clubs, looking at other girls or asking them money.
For me, when I see these girls running with the first guy, to room, for only 50, or even 150 for escorts, no risk to fall in love, they are "for everybody" girls, so, I can t understand jealousy of many guys. When you know what is a woman, because behind the prostitute is a woman, when you know how work women, when you know how to behave with women, then you don't need to pay more than the club rule to get what you want, no tip, never extra, asked, most of girls don t even check money you give them, even on first time, and you can have all the prettiest, behaving like GF in room. If I waited Alice for 6 hours on first time and she did worth, I never run after my regular girls, they know if they don t come to me, then they can go with all other guys, but not with me after, so I never had problems with Alice / Kate or Sandra. De or Karolina. Pol, when they were busy, because they came to me and repeated many times. Behavior can compete with over paying, you can have time, diner for free, because the girl just want to keep you as very regular, without asking anything for this time, just social time, out of sex, out of the time paid for sex in room. But illusion only take place in brothels or hotel rooms for escorts, no interest for fake relationship, full of lies, in real life. There is a place for everything. Only pimps are interested to live with "for everybody" WGs.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1916356]We were also discussing all FKK's in general, and not just Oase here I assumed. But the naming seems a bit too much. Perhaps off the forum in a group conversation instead? LOL.[/QUOTE]It was tongue in cheek, but has some validity. If we can't agree whether a couple of well known girls xx and YY have BFs, it is a lot more difficult to have a consensus what fraction of such girls in totality across clubs have boyfriends.
Of course, if the heat index in this discussion is high now, imagine how hot it gets when it comes to specific names. "What do you mean, my fav girl has a fish?"
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1914090]You get from how you behave for manners and time, with girls. I prefer to have only 2 good 1 hour rooms, than 4 rabbit, suck and fuck rooms. I was so happy to find my Isabella after 2 years, that I stayed 2 hours with her, which cost more than 5 hours and half in Germany. At Sharks and World, I had only 1 hour rooms with her, about 20 , but she improved her game and now we play like real little dogs, and fish.
Time for quality or many holes filled?[/QUOTE]When you commit to 1 HR before the start of the session my understanding is that you have committed to pay the girl 100 E in spite of the quality of service rendered. I will not commit to a 1 HR session with a girl with whom I have not been before; however, the possibility remains that I will in fact do a 1 HR session with her depending on my feelings in the zimmer. I hardly ever repeat with a girl at FKKs because, unlike some posters here, my trips are too infrequent. Too many lithesome bodies being paraded. I try to 'date' as many girls as possible during my occasional visits.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1916466]It was tongue in cheek, but has some validity. If we can't agree whether a couple of well known girls xx and YY have BFs, it is a lot more difficult to have a consensus what fraction of such girls in totality across clubs have boyfriends.
Of course, if the heat index in this discussion is high now, imagine how hot it gets when it comes to specific names. "What do you mean, my fav girl has a fish?"[/QUOTE]That information I will never post on a public board. And BTW: if you have evidence or proof that a specific girl is pimped and you still take her to the room: That is a criminal offense and may cost you 3-5 years in prison if you exploit her forced position. So be careful. What you say. What you post.
[URL]http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gleichstellung[/URL], did=223946. Html.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916572]That information I will never post on a public board. And BTW: if you have evidence or proof that a specific girl is pimped and you still take her to the room: That is a criminal offense and may cost you 3-5 years in prison if you exploit her forced position. So be careful. What you say. What you post.
[URL]http://www.bmfsfj.de/BMFSFJ/gleichstellung[/URL], did=223946. Html.
HB.[/QUOTE]Correct. And that's kinda my broader point. Why have these endless and periodic discussions on how many girls are pimped or not, which devolve into "I know more about this subject than you do" - all discussions done hypothetically and in abstract, because no details can ever be discussed for reasons you stated.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1916564]unlike some posters here, my trips are too infrequent. Too many lithesome bodies being paraded. I try to 'date' as many girls as possible during my occasional visits.[/QUOTE]Same here! Believe in the same philosophy but, a couple of guys say that to experience a proper GFE with a girl you need a one hour session. But the other way of looking at it is you can have different girls and lot many girls than have one hour session with only one girl or few girls! I know it is it each to it's own. But still would like to read what others say on this?
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1916582]Correct. And that's kinda my broader point. Why have these endless and periodic discussions on how many girls are pimped or not, which devolve into "I know more about this subject than you do" - all discussions done hypothetically and in abstract, because no details can ever be discussed for reasons you stated.[/QUOTE]My broader point was that there's many guys posting BS statements, numbers and percentages who don't know anything about the scene.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916604]My broader point was that there's many guys posting BS statements, numbers and percentages who don't know anything about the scene.
HB.[/QUOTE]Perhaps. But everyone is convinced they alone have the right data and the other side is posting BS, and this is one of those situations where specifics can't be provided, and it will just go around in circles with no objective data points available ever.
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There's user here who have had 100+ club visits per year over the last 15 years. I'd say their data points could be more valid than those of users visiting clubs 10-20 times per year for 5 years.
HB.
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In knowledge of what's going on in clubs and especially behind the walls HB is one of the best here.
But he has different taste concerning girls, good sex and good clubs than me.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916639]There's user here who have had 100+ club visits per year over the last 15 years. I'd say their data points could be more valid than those of users visiting clubs 10-20 times per year for 5 years.
HB.[/QUOTE]Depends, I'd take the info of a 35 year old monger with 5 years experience over a 55 yo monger with 15 years. Let's get real, AMD no offense to you older guys, the 35 year old is old enough to not be naive but is young enough to have a more authentic connection with a 25 year old girl, someone who is his peer.
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Only LOL and only money counts
LOL but in this business like in almost all others only money counts. And with no surprise useally a 55 yo guy has spend more money in clubs than a 35 yo guy.
Maybe what you mean is at a disco but 100 % sure that isn't the case at a FKK club.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1916564]When you commit to 1 HR before the start of the session my understanding is that you have committed to pay the girl 100 E in spite of the quality of service rendered. I will not commit to a 1 HR session with a girl with whom I have not been before; however, the possibility remains that I will in fact do a 1 HR session with her depending on my feelings in the zimmer. I hardly ever repeat with a girl at FKKs because, unlike some posters here, my trips are too infrequent. Too many lithesome bodies being paraded. I try to 'date' as many girls as possible during my occasional visits.[/QUOTE]When I go for first time with a girl, I never know how it will be, so never know how long I will stay, but usually I decide after a few minutes and ask the girl if it s OK for her. I stayed less than 15 mn with tall, really pretty brunette Nina. Ro, friend of Evita, and she was the only girl I didn't wait to go downstairs. She made me lose my time and 50 €. Evita and Mia went to ask her what happened and Mia thought I didn't like Romanian girls, funny girl.
I stayed 2 hours on first time with top class Alice / Kate for 2 rounds, and now each time, I have to explain her I prefer to stay only 1 hour at expensive Globe, for 270 €. Today, after being unlucky yesterday with very busy Katia. Ru, I stayed 4 h30 , for 4 rounds and to taste Siberia everywhere and deep, for our discovery = 350 € , I think she will remember the warrior, I m ready for my ironman. So, no rules, just discovery and pleasure or not. After, with my regulars, 1 hour is my standard to take my time and I repeated 3 times in a day, several times, or 4 times in week end with some of my regulars. Also, repeated weekly for 1 year with same girl, even some say she didn't want to have room with me, but she went to me for 1 year, I didn't need to run after her, I hunt only on first time, sometimes all day, but never after, and if girls prefer to go with another guy before me, then they can stay with him all day, I won t be attracted to go after.
But each one his experiences, no competition, no need to be jealous about "for everybody" WGs, just enjoy own life, life is short.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1916594]Same here! Believe in the same philosophy but, a couple of guys say that to experience a proper GFE with a girl you need a one hour session. But the other way of looking at it is you can have different girls and lot many girls than have one hour session with only one girl or few girls! I know it is it each to it's own. But still would like to read what others say on this?[/QUOTE]To each his own, but a healthy mix of both is the way to go. I like 1+ hour sessions with my regulars but you need to try others to get variety. The guys who only do 30 mins, especially without repeating, are missing out on some great sex. 30 mins is enough for the man, but a WG who has been working all day needs more than 30. And if you ask why you should care about her? If she has a good time, your time with her will be much better than that one time 30 minute suck and fuck session.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1916665]LOL but in this business like in almost all others only money counts. And with no surprise useally a 55 yo guy has spend more money in clubs than a 35 yo guy.
Maybe what you mean is at a disco but 100 % sure that isn't the case at a FKK club.[/QUOTE]That would be true except for the fact that girls have turned down 2 hour sessions with an old guy for a 1 hour session with a younger guy, personal experience. If you're an older guy, that might hurt your ego but those are the facts.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916672]That would be true except for the fact that girls have turned down 2 hour sessions with an old guy for a 1 hour session with a younger guy, personal experience. If you're an older guy, that might hurt your ego but those are the facts.[/QUOTE]Wow you even write more BS here than S&S plus PL together.
We talk about money and P6 and nothing else. But in one thing I agree with you a minority about max 10 % of the club girls prefer fun, young guys and so on but the majority of 90 % of the girls are at the clubs for making money and they prefer than even old guys.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916639]There's user here who have had 100+ club visits per year over the last 15 years. I'd say their data points could be more valid than those of users visiting clubs 10-20 times per year for 5 years.
HB.[/QUOTE]I don't doubt that and I am happy to defer to people more knowledgeable than me when they are, but I guess not every one is around here as you can see already.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1916681]Wow you even write more BS here than S&S plus PL together.
We talk about money and P6 and nothing else. But in one thing I agree with you a minority about max 10 % of the club girls prefer fun, young guys and so on but the majority of 90 % of the girls are at the clubs for making money and they prefer than even old guys.[/QUOTE]Okay cool. I'm BSing. Next time we are in a club together just ask to look at my phone for some great pics. Please don't impose your lack of game on me.
I do agree that some girls prefer the older guys who take less effort and who maybe are also more generous with money. However those girls specifically don't like the young guys that bang too hard and bargain too much, not young guys as a whole.
But again, don't impose your inability to actually make real connections with girls on guys who can, and blame it on BSing or young naivety. Like I said, I'd love the opportunity to go through my phone with you and brag about my accomplishments, especially to prove you wrong. My next trip is in September but perhaps August.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916653]Depends, I'd take the info of a 35 year old monger with 5 years experience over a 55 yo monger with 15 years. Let's get real, AMD no offense to you older guys, the 35 year old is old enough to not be naive but is young enough to have a more authentic connection with a 25 year old girl, someone who is his peer.[/QUOTE]Didn't your Sharks fav say to you, she is Moldovan? On first time I met her, she understood I know quite well Megan, since 1 year, because of something I said and she was very surprised I could know it, so she said to me her real name and where she is from, even before our first room, just when speaking about Megan, who was her friend when she arrived. Times changed very fast. So, authentic Romanian connection seem full of lies. She didn't want to go with me anymore, because I became too big for her vagina, not at all because of my licking games, as another member wrote, but 2 weeks ago, she said to me, now she wants again. I will always like her, after my 10 rooms with her, but she broke my desire.
About Megan, I prefer her eyes and teeth than her nipples, I prefer Diana breasts. Many messages are given with eyes and smiles, when You know women. Girls understand very fast what kind of guy we are.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916672]That would be true except for the fact that girls have turned down 2 hour sessions with an old guy for a 1 hour session with a younger guy, personal experience. If you're an older guy, that might hurt your ego but those are the facts.[/QUOTE]Many girls tell me they prefer to have sessions with older guys. Some may very well be BSing me but I suspect some BS the younger guys as well.
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They all tell you what they feel YOU want to hear. It's their job.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1916665]LOL but in this business like in almost all others only money counts. And with no surprise useally a 55 yo guy has spend more money in clubs than a 35 yo guy.
Maybe what you mean is at a disco but 100 % sure that isn't the case at a FKK club.[/QUOTE]So you completely missed the part in the Artemis razzia where 'a girl in love' started the whole thing?
[QUOTE=Banana Boi;1916748]They all tell you what they feel YOU want to hear. It's their job.[/QUOTE]
True, but even the girls are human beings... and not everyone is equally cold blooded, or equally good actresses... some girls does different services to different guys. and the connection factor is there in many cases... and some girls long for a life outside this industry too. perhaps not now, but maybe in a few years, and as they don't have much time outside the clubs to date guys, some takes it into the clubs also. But this is one side where the older guys has it harder to connect than the younger guys. And lots of info can be gathered through this aspect...
But one thing is very true in this situation we are in, it is extremely hard to be 100% certain of anything. Some girls could be telling the truth once in awhile, yet since they lie about other things, we wouldn't believe them. Or since other girls have lied in simillair situations, we would assume they are all the same.
Now after thinking about my last statement regarding married girls doing better service than 'just pimped girls', I have to change that into 'girls with children does better service'. And the reason is most likely that they do it for their child. To make more money for their child/children they must build up their reputation. And these are the girls who also works the longest shifts.
Just pimped girls can in some clubs work alot. And in other clubs work less. But their service are in general much worse than non-pimped girls, or the girls with kids, or the girls who wants out of the industry one day and look for a guy... (and it is not just May/Oase. quite a few more)
Getting into HB's e-peen discussion, probably aimed at me (even though he misses the mark on my visits by a fair share) among others is rediculous, and reminds me of an elitist 20 year old internet gamer. If he cannot back his points, then just leave it. Blank statements. Besides, we are not discussing part time workers with full time workers either like it seems he does.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1916758]So you completely missed the part in the Artemis razzia where 'a girl in love' started the whole thing?
[/QUOTE]I completely missed the content of most of your posts. Most of them theoretical garbage without any truth about the club girls. Only completely garbage about your connection between service level of club girls and her marital status.
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There are many more "poor" guys in love with prostitutes, than 20 yo Romanians in love for Aslan or American or Western Europeans guys. They do this business to survive from their home misery but can t forget their roots. Some are skillful to sell illusion, that s just what I m looking for. For true love, I will go in my mountains to find a bear female with round ears, who will lick me everywhere to warm my heart, not a girl fucked all day by fat, old, Turkish, Arabs, for only 50, even there are angel girls among them, but their job is a love killer.
But I agree for mum who are usually, not always, more skillful than 18/20 warrior girls, but not because of husband who ran away or is not able to work to food his wife and child, but because pregnancy made them become more woman, more comfortable knowing better their body, more sweet, and when You treat them like a woman, when You say to them how they are pretty with their mum tits and belly full of life, then they smile and it s often fireworks. They are just women and even in brothel, with their mum body, they just need to be said they are pretty, when they were let alone by their man. I can see how superstar Kate looks at me, looking at her putting on full light, putting off her bra and panties, touching and caressing her body, kissing her belly, a real chicken skin and I love her eyes.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1916758]So you completely missed the part in the Artemis razzia where 'a girl in love' started the whole thing?
[/QUOTE]The "girl in love" was in love with a 81 er, not with a client. What does it have to to with the topic discussed? Nothing.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1916758]
Now after thinking about my last statement regarding married girls doing better service than 'just pimped girls', I have to change that into [b]'girls with children does better service'. [/b]And the reason is most likely that they do it for their child. To make more money for their child/children they must build up their reputation. And these are the girls who also works the longest shifts.
[/QUOTE]Now it is getting more and more ridiculous. Tomorrow you will change your statement to "girls with belly piercing give better service". It is about as valid as your current statement.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916653]Depends, I'd take the info of a 35 year old monger with 5 years experience over a 55 yo monger with 15 years. Let's get real, AMD no offense to you older guys, the 35 year old is old enough to not be naive but is young enough to have a more authentic connection with a 25 year old girl, someone who is his peer.[/QUOTE]I am not 55, but I get your point. Maybe there's something in it, but there's no need for an "authentic connection" to get valid information from or about a girl. Sure the girls tell you what you want to hear, so if you are a 25 year old Italian they will tell you "amore, ti amo" and that they hate German clients, especially the older ones. And if you are a 60 year old German regular, they will start complaining about the young non Germans fucking them too hard and that they want everything for 50 EUR (or less). That's the business. Still you can look behind the curtains. Especially when you have been around a while.
HB.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1916748]They all tell you what they feel YOU want to hear. It's their job.[/QUOTE]Wise comment. They play the game. With me, they play GF because I treat them like a GF. Some are clever to adapt to us, some are only pretty robots.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1916642]
But he has different taste concerning girls, good sex and good clubs than me.[/QUOTE]Completely agree.
HB.
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What is 81 er? I discover this bad business.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916807]I am not 55, but I get your point. Maybe there's something in it, but there's no need for an "authentic connection" to get valid information from or about a girl. Sure the girls tell you what you want to hear, so if you are a 25 year old Italian they will tell you "amore, ti amo" and that they hate German clients, especially the older ones. And if you are a 60 year old German regular, they will start complaining about the young non Germans fucking them too hard and that they want everything for 50 EUR (or less). That's the business. Still you can look behind the curtains. Especially when you have been around a while.
HB.[/QUOTE]+1. Exactly right. Age doesn't indicate whether or not a customer understands and knows about the pay sex world
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916807]I am not 55, but I get your point. Maybe there's something in it, but there's no need for an "authentic connection" to get valid information from or about a girl. Sure the girls tell you what you want to hear, so if you are a 25 year old Italian they will tell you "amore, ti amo" and that they hate German clients, especially the older ones. And if you are a 60 year old German regular, they will start complaining about the young non Germans fucking them too hard and that they want everything for 50 EUR (or less). That's the business. Still you can look behind the curtains. Especially when you have been around a while.
HB.[/QUOTE]I'll chime in, as a punter under 35 that approaches the 100 visits a year you mentioned (only for about 6 years though), and I really don't understand you HB.
How do you keep your patience discussing all this BS with "the tourists". Honestly, I am getting so exasperated with the "discussions" on this board. In case anyone is interested, the only reason I'm reading it after a few months away, is that I'm going to be in Hessen again soon.
What the topic at hand is concerned, I have no fucking clue about the real numbers. Depending on your definition of "pimp" I would say that if you include the "boyfriends" in their BMWs, it is closer to the 90% than the 50%. I don't believe there are that many girls that get to Germany all by themselves, "friends" or even "family" can turn about to behave like pimps as well, many boyfriends become an "ex" after a while because they take all their money, and so on.
At the same time there are guys that sound like 100% pimps, but they turn out to really be "life time partners". A few weeks ago I was watching baby pictures (including dad) with a new mom, that guy has spent a few years driving different girls from the same village to different clubs in the area. I wouldn't presume to know the real set up there (especially regarding money), but he is clearly playing family with this specific girl that just came back after 2 years being away (in the house she fucked together, with cars out front that she fucked together and the baby).
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30 minutes Session!
[QUOTE=Takedown;1916671]but a WG who has been working all day needs more than 30. And if you ask why you should care about her?[/QUOTE]Yeah exactly, I know this is unfair and wrong to say but a lot of guys perhaps, including me would say, as long as I have enjoyed, I couldn't care less if the girl enjoyed or not. She is anywhich ways getting paid for her time. So even if that happens in a 30 minutes session. So be it. Whats wrong in it??
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916807]I am not 55, but I get your point. Maybe there's something in it, but there's no need for an "authentic connection" to get valid information from or about a girl. Sure the girls tell you what you want to hear, so if you are a 25 year old Italian they will tell you "amore, ti amo" and that they hate German clients, especially the older ones. And if you are a 60 year old German regular, they will start complaining about the young non Germans fucking them too hard and that they want everything for 50 EUR (or less). That's the business. Still you can look behind the curtains. Especially when you have been around a while.
HB.[/QUOTE]I have to add that the girls more often complain about Germans in general, young or old because they say that the Germans are not big spenders.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1916852]Yeah exactly, I know this is unfair and wrong to say but a lot of guys perhaps, including me would say, as long as I have enjoyed, I couldn't care less if the girl enjoyed or not. She is anywhich ways getting paid for her time. So even if that happens in a 30 minutes session. So be it. Whats wrong in it??[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with it at all bud. I was just saying that 1 hour sessions gives the the chance to gets off or at least get into the session. When that happens, you will have a better time because her service will be better.
Believe me though, sometimes when I can't get off with my regulars, a 30 minute session does the trick.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1916701]Didn't your Sharks fav say to you, she is Moldovan? On first time I met her, she understood I know quite well Megan, since 1 year, because of something I said and she was very surprised I could know it, so she said to me her real name and where she is from, even before our first room, just when speaking about Megan, who was her friend when she arrived. Times changed very fast. So, authentic Romanian connection seem full of lies. She didn't want to go with me anymore, because I became too big for her vagina, not at all because of my licking games, as another member wrote, but 2 weeks ago, she said to me, now she wants again. I will always like her, after my 10 rooms with her, but she broke my desire.
About Megan, I prefer her eyes and teeth than her nipples, I prefer Diana breasts. Many messages are given with eyes and smiles, when You know women. Girls understand very fast what kind of guy we are.[/QUOTE]Who are we talking about Siri? Megan, Ariana, or Yvette? They are my top 3.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916867]Nothing wrong with it at all bud. I was just saying that 1 hour sessions gives the the chance to gets off or at least get into the session. When that happens, you will have a better time because her service will be better.
Believe me though, sometimes when I can't get off with my regulars, a 30 minute session does the trick.[/QUOTE]30 minutes with a new girl.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1916841]I'll chime in, as a punter under 35 that approaches the 100 visits a year you mentioned (only for about 6 years though), and I really don't understand you HB.
How do you keep your patience discussing all this BS with "the tourists". Honestly, I am getting so exasperated with the "discussions" on this board. In case anyone is interested, the only reason I'm reading it after a few months away, is that I'm going to be in Hessen again soon.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry that you feel that my "tourist" opinions are beneath yours.
No one here really knows the true numbers. It may be that I am gullible and do not actually understand the dark side of the business. However, I understand that it is there. I just believe that it is less prevalent than many senior posters believe it to be (pimping and leeching boyfriends.). Perhaps I am naive, but it is 2016 and we have more information than when Instarted the hobby years ago. Resources such as Facebook and Snapchat does give more insight than the girl's words. I trust those platforms more than a girl's word and even more than most mongers. But again, girls can also tailor their Facebook so I trust Snapchat. It is more personal, with girls having less Snapchat friends. When they post pics and videos of themselves with girlfriends and guys at a regular club or on holiday at a beach, I think that many WGs are truly free. And that makes me happy.
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Salma Hayek lookalike aka Ellen?
I was wondering if anyone knew if Ellen (I believe that is her name) is still at Oase? She resembles Salma Hayek or a bit Katy Perry. Romanian, but speaks Spanish as well as English, has black hair. Saw her a month ago and she was great.
Thanks!
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The biggest pimp is still the government.
Ask yourself: how much protection from our collective pimp did those poor girls get in Cologne who were raped and groped during NY eve? Can these girls switch 'pimps' or refuse to pay 'protection money' (= taxes) to the government when they are not happy about their pimp?
By the way, I'm NOT talking about forced prostitution here, but about extorting money and profiting of the hard work of others in exchange for vague and unbinding promises about "stability" and "security" in return.
In that sense there is very little difference between the government and a pimp, but the government doesn't like competition!
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916889]Who are we talking about Siri? Megan, Ariana, or Yvette? They are my top 3.[/QUOTE]Look forward meeting you at Sharks on September, when Megan will be back, if she returns. She should not. She never claimed to be Moldovan. I never noticed Yvette. Ariana is here today.
Also Aylice. Bu, Mandy. De, Crissy. Bu, Rebeka without underwear, Ada, Madalina back, Selena.
After my Siberian dreamed night, wait for a lovely, angel, top model to wake me up and make me dream, after wishing good holidays to my jolie Sara who said: Why you come when I leave?
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1916841]
What the topic at hand is concerned, I have no fucking clue about the real numbers. Depending on your definition of "pimp" I would say that if you include the "boyfriends" in their BMWs, it is closer to the 90% than the 50%. I don't believe there are that many girls that get to Germany all by themselves, "friends" or even "family" can turn about to behave like pimps as well, many boyfriends become an "ex" after a while because they take all their money, and so on.
At the same time there are guys that sound like 100% pimps, but they turn out to really be "life time partners". A few weeks ago I was watching baby pictures (including dad) with a new mom, that guy has spent a few years driving different girls from the same village to different clubs in the area. I wouldn't presume to know the real set up there (especially regarding money), but he is clearly playing family with this specific girl that just came back after 2 years being away (in the house she fucked together, with cars out front that she fucked together and the baby).[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I am talking about also. And so the line is hard to put between pimps and lifetime partners. It is also not like 'any boyfriend' allways means a 'pimp'. Perhaps we just have different ideas about the word pimp.
But most of this is guesswork, and sirioja nails it with motherly love and self perception increasing the service.
Understanding human beings and noticing human impulses outweighs much of the lies one can hear...
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1916805]The "girl in love" was in love with a 81 er, not with a client. What does it have to to with the topic discussed? Nothing.
Now it is getting more and more ridiculous. Tomorrow you will change your statement to "girls with belly piercing give better service". It is about as valid as your current statement.
HB.[/QUOTE]Ofcourse the topic of the girl in love with the 81 er had something to do with it. It made them a couple, and it changed the rules of the game. Otherwise, the fact that she was in love would never have been mentionned. Love does that. Not that its easy for the girl to fall in love when she has sex 20-50 times a week, and perhaps less so with a tourist than with a local, but that changes little. All human interaction is based on impulses which changes people. And I am not talking about marrying a bear or a working girl, but getting that little bit better (or worse) service through ymmv...
Your last statement makes me think you are a bit narcissistic. Although a bit funny. I do like humor like that also, lol
Craiova: if you are unable to understand discussions like this, then why add to them?
Takedown: let me add to the comments I get from the girls about germany and german guys: 'they are so boring', 'germany is so dull and boring'. 'They never smile or laugh'. 'They dont have humor'. 'Everyone is so serious'. Ofcourse this is working on the global generalized perception of the german society, and not allways the truth. And for some it can be a way to let us non germans feel the girls prefer us instead of the locals, but we will never know for sure. Being funny and having fun with people from a different culture, with different ideas of humor can be a hard barrier to cross for anyone...lying in some cultures are also not allways seen as lies. Where I come from, and it also seems like in Romania, lies are in many situations seen as jokes. Never ment to deceive anyone, but to change the normal dull patterns of serious mononous ad nauseum conversations.
Now also don't forget many people come to Germany for work. They want to earn money. So they work. If they get pimped and loose most of their money to some guy they don't love, then they will have recentment towards working as diligently as if they see a point in it. Like having a child, or money for their family...
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1916803]For true love, I will go in my mountains to find a bear female with round ears, who will lick me everywhere to warm my heart, not a girl fucked all day by fat, old, Turkish, Arabs, for only 50, even there are angel girls among them....[/QUOTE]I would like to point out the implicit racism in this sentence. I find it quite offensive, and I believe it violates the posting rules.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1916973]I would like to point out the implicit racism in this sentence. I find it quite offensive, and I believe it violates the posting rules.[/QUOTE]I agree, it was way too pro-bear and racist towards humans.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1916974]I agree, it was way too pro-bear and racist towards humans.[/QUOTE]Make fun if you like, but how do you think a statement like this would read?
"For true love, I will go in my mountains to find a bear female with round ears, who will lick me everywhere to warm my heart, not a girl fucked all day by Black guys for only 50, even there are angel girls among them. ".
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Doesn't have to be racist. It can also go back to what I wrote about in the lounge thread.
I make fun out of everyone. Doesnt mean I am racist. Some of my best friends are chilean, somali, iraqi, chinese, thai, polish. The moment I stop making jokes, then they should be worried. And I have lived abroad and taken the same jokes in huge amounts. The only way is to fire back. Thats how integration works best...
The moment americans stop making jokes about canadians, the canadians should be worried, or the moment the english stop making jokes about the scots out of fears to be labelled something, they should be worried.
A joke is a joke. The jokester shouldnt be blamed for incidents in history.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1916745]Many girls tell me they prefer to have sessions with older guys. Some may very well be BSing me but I suspect some BS the younger guys as well.[/QUOTE]Yes by having sex with older guy they clearly separate the job and the pleasure when they meet outside the clubs young guys. It is a way to protect them.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1916968]Ofcourse the topic of the girl in love with the 81 er had something to do with it. It made them a couple, and it changed the rules of the game. Otherwise, the fact that she was in love would never have been mentionned. Love does that. Not that its easy for the girl to fall in love when she has sex 20-50 times a week, and perhaps less so with a tourist than with a local, but that changes little. All human interaction is based on impulses which changes people. And I am not talking about marrying a bear or a working girl, but getting that little bit better (or worse) service through ymmv...
Your last statement makes me think you are a bit narcissistic. Although a bit funny. I do like humor like that also, lol
Craiova: if you are unable to understand discussions like this, then why add to them?
Takedown: let me add to the comments I get from the girls about germany and german guys: 'they are so boring', 'germany is so dull and boring'. 'They never smile or laugh'...[/QUOTE]I am not a German guy but leaving here for many years so very difficult for a Romanian girl to know if I am German or not, for many girls that I met specially those days when the competition is so hard, they take what they can, they have not the possibility to chose their customer. Was in World today 3 times more girl than men in that circumstances how can they chose.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1916977]Make fun if you like, but how do you think a statement like this would read?
"For true love, I will go in my mountains to find a bear female with round ears, who will lick me everywhere to warm my heart, not a girl fucked all day by Black guys for only 50, even there are angel girls among them. ".[/QUOTE]Besides, he goes by nationalities, or ethnic groups. From what I know, there is only one human race. And from what he mentionned, just the bear is from a different race.
Or are YOU stating that there are different human races? And what do you mean by that if so? And who then becomes the 'racist'?
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916853]I have to add that the girls more often complain about Germans in general, young or old because they say that the Germans are not big spenders.[/QUOTE]Even though I am not German, I hate when WGs make the above statement. It sounds like something a parent says: "See those kids over there. They are bad! Implicitly they are saying "Don't behave like them". It's a form of manipulation. They might as well give me a pat on the head while they are at it.
Besides Germany's fiscal responsibility is keeping the EU afloat.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1916968]from the girls about germany and german guys: 'they are so boring', 'germany is so dull and boring'. 'They never smile or laugh'. 'They dont have humor'. 'Everyone is so serious'. .[/QUOTE]It's true. That's us. Dull boring Germans. The ones with the dull and boring concept of FKK clubs with visitors from all over the World.
HB.
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Often you cannot get actual truth from looking at someones FB page. Some people don't even know the actual truth about their spouses who they have spent decades with!
People hide things that are illegal. People hide things that are potentially embarassing. People hide things that "others wouldn't just understand". A girl having a pimp falls under all three of these categories! Thus she would hide the fact that she has a pimp. Just like many of you hide the fact that you are mongers from your co-workers, friends, significant others.
Being married sometimes is just for show. Gay people who pretend to be straight fall under this category. Maybe the pimp forced the girl into marriage, so that the authorities wouldn't be able to accuse him of being a pimp? Giving your spouse the money you earned is perfectly legal. Like FreeDude pointed out the relationship between pimp and WG can be complex. They could both be madly in love with each other. They could both hate each other. Or unrequited love. No different from normal relationships between men and women.
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Some guys are naive enough to think because they are given FB, girls love them, when it just means: don t forget me and come back to give me money.
Now, I prefer not to have phone number, except for one, not to be asked anything when they are at home. Too many times, happened.
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Girls have told me similar stories about Germany, but I find it hilarious at best and insulting at worst. These girls, several thousands of them, are in Germany. Safe and sound. And making money legally, and keep it too. Much much more than they can ever hope to make in their native lands. What kinda people badmouth their hosts like that?
While I am no expert on Germany, they leave me alone, polite and professional when needed, and it's generally safe. Never had any problems. What more can you ask for? When I am somewhat lost around vending machines etc the passersby have been general quite helpful. More than New Yorkers might be to strangers, I imagine.
And it's a bit rich coming from the Romanian girls. Wiki travel page on Bucharest says a taxi ride is quite risky from the airport to the city center. Imagine. The official wiki page, on their capital city, from the airport to the center of the city. Says even official taxi drivers can be looking to fleece you and might harm you physically. From all this discussion, it appears a huge number of Romanian men are looking to pimp their women. Wives, girl friends, perhaps even blood relatives. Does not exactly sound like a friendly bunch, do they?
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Sorry my apologies! I thought I might read some news about [B]FKK Oase[/B] in this section. :rolleyes:
In case you don't know there is a [b]Lounge and Chat[/b] section for this type of non-useful chit chat.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1917114]
In case you don't know there is a [b]Lounge and Chat[/b] section for this type of non-useful chit chat.[/QUOTE]You mean what we like to call Mr. Ho's thread?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1916954]Look forward meeting you at Sharks on September, when Megan will be back, if she returns. She should not. She never claimed to be Moldovan. I never noticed Yvette. Ariana is here today.
Also Aylice. Bu, Mandy. De, Crissy. Bu, Rebeka without underwear, Ada, Madalina back, Selena.
After my Siberian dreamed night, wait for a lovely, angel, top model to wake me up and make me dream, after wishing good holidays to my jolie Sara who said: Why you come when I leave?[/QUOTE]Yvette is also on holiday until later this month. So the end of September will be very good for me, or very bad when Evita, Megan, Arianna, Yvette, and Cosmina all will be there at the same time. I will make sure to arrange and meet with you Siri. You and I seem to have very similar taste and have a similar view on the girls.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1917093]Often you cannot get actual truth from looking at someones FB page. Some people don't even know the actual truth about their spouses who they have spent decades with!
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sirioja;1917104]Some guys are naive enough to think because they are given FB, girls love them, when it just means: don t forget me and come back to give me money.
Now, I prefer not to have phone number, except for one, not to be asked anything when they are at home. Too many times, happened.[/QUOTE]What about SnapChat? If you have a girl's SnapChat, then it gets personal because only younger generations use it. I communicate with 3 WG's daily from 4000 miles away. That makes it more awesome when you see them. It's like fucking your friends. That you're paying.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1917114]Sorry my apologies! I thought I might read some news about [B]FKK Oase[/B] in this section. :rolleyes:
In case you don't know there is a [b]Lounge and Chat[/b] section for this type of non-useful chit chat.[/QUOTE]You are right, but this thread is a little fun, no? Now I really want to meet a lot of these posters, whether they have insulted me or not.
In the end, when we meet in the clubs, what is there to be mad about. We would all be having a great time with the girls. And the collective knowledge would make our little ISG group the best spenders and partiers in the club.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1917146]
In the end, when we meet in the clubs, what is there to be mad about. We would all be having a great time with the girls. And the collective knowledge would make our little ISG group the best spenders and partiers in the club.[/QUOTE]Well, sex with women calms guys down. So when there is plenty to choose from, wars will turn into peace treaties. Best way of creating world peace is to fuck, the ying way! But never forget to fight once you are away from your girls, and that is when yang is supposed to be tested!
So my philosophy is:
'Fight on the forum!
Fuck in the FKK!
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1917135]You mean what we like to call Mr. Ho's thread?[/QUOTE]No there is plenty of room in the [B]Lounge and Chat[/B] for all posts even yours. :)
[QUOTE=Takedown;1917144]What about SnapChat? If you have a girl's SnapChat, then it gets personal because only younger generations use it. I communicate with 3 WG's daily from 4000 miles away. That makes it more awesome when you see them. It's like fucking your friends. That you're paying.[/QUOTE]The girls give you their facebook or snapchat so that they can control you and make sure that when you return to the club you will spend your euros on them and not some other girl. This is good business for smart girl. They then give your euros to their boyfriend or manager. Perhaps you think it is because you are special to them. I am sorry BUT no! :(
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1917137]Yvette is also on holiday until later this month. So the end of September will be very good for me, or very bad when Evita, Megan, Arianna, Yvette, and Cosmina all will be there at the same time. I will make sure to arrange and meet with you Siri. You and I seem to have very similar taste and have a similar view on the girls.[/QUOTE]On 2 days, You can get the 5. Only Megan for me on your list, but also many top girls in other clubs. Even Ariana was there yesterday, I preferred Anja challenge. Sharks is low now. I can just say you, Evita is clever for her business. Many other guys dream about her. Unfortunately for her, Ariana was not.
My girls are like my girlfriends in room and sometimes out, but only in club. When I m out of the club, only to take appointments. About time in room, some girls can give much in short time like Ariana, but some need more time to open them, on this Sunday evening, after taking all my time to open her, I stayed 4 h 30 with a Siberian for a sex marathon, she is just a sex terminator, never dead, always asking more, always returning, always higher, after more than 4 hours, she wanted again for fifth time, asking for sporty sex again, unbelievable, I would have killed any other vagina.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1917107]Girls have told me similar stories about Germany, but I find it hilarious at best and insulting at worst. These girls, several thousands of them, are in Germany. Safe and sound. And making money legally, and keep it too. Much much more than they can ever hope to make in their native lands. What kinda people badmouth their hosts like that?
While I am no expert on Germany, they leave me alone, polite and professional when needed, and it's generally safe. Never had any problems. What more can you ask for? When I am somewhat lost around vending machines etc the passersby have been general quite helpful. More than New Yorkers might be to strangers, I imagine.
And it's a bit rich coming from the Romanian girls. Wiki travel page on Bucharest says a taxi ride is quite risky from the airport to the city center. Imagine. The official wiki page, on their capital city, from the airport to the center of the city. Says even official taxi drivers can be looking to fleece you and might harm you physically. From all this discussion, it appears a huge number of Romanian men are looking to pimp their women. Wives, girl friends, perhaps even blood relatives. Does not exactly sound like a friendly bunch, do they?[/QUOTE]Fully online with you, zero risk to visit the big FKK in Germany and many girls are happy to be there, I more believe that they are working for their own pocket, I know some of them have their car, and already bought a flat or house in Romania.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1916853]I have to add that the girls more often complain about Germans in general, young or old because they say that the Germans are not big spenders.[/QUOTE]The main complaint that Romanian girls tell me about the Germans is that they are cold. But for me the German providers are the hottest in FKKs.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1917257]The girls give you their facebook or snapchat so that they can control you and make sure that when you return to the club you will spend your euros on them and not some other girl. This is good business for smart girl. They then give your euros to their boyfriend or manager. Perhaps you think it is because you are special to them. I am sorry BUT no! :([/QUOTE]Then, girls keep contact and send illusion to attract to get money. I just wish them to keep my money only for them and children.
Land of illusion.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1917351]The main complaint that Romanian girls tell me about the Germans is that they are cold. But for me the German providers are the hottest in FKKs.[/QUOTE]Or they don t speak to Romanian or Bulgarian girls in very respectful way and same in room, many for only 50.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1917037]Besides, he goes by nationalities, or ethnic groups. From what I know, there is only one human race. And from what he mentionned, just the bear is from a different race.
Or are YOU stating that there are different human races? And what do you mean by that if so? And who then becomes the 'racist'?[/QUOTE]Oh stop with the shallow pedantry and pseudo-deconstruction. He clearly meant to express having sex in a highly undesirable way, and to him the way to describe that was to include a reference to Turks and Arabs. He was saying, in effect, that Arabs and Turks are highly undesirable. It's an ethnic slur and that alone is objectionable enough.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1917351]The main complaint that Romanian girls tell me about the Germans is that they are cold. But for me the German providers are the hottest in FKKs.[/QUOTE]I find it rather amusing that the Romanians would be complaining over the Germans being cold and without a sense of humor as I would describe the Romanians in the same way.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1917360]Oh stop with the shallow pedantry and pseudo-deconstruction. He [b]clearly[/b] meant to express having sex in a highly undesirable way, and to him the way to describe that was to include a reference to Turks and Arabs. He was saying, in effect, that Arabs and Turks are highly undesirable. It's an ethnic slur and that alone is objectionable enough.[/QUOTE]Believe me, it's never clear with him, even when he writes in french (actually it can be worse). I think he was just expressing some kind of attraction for zoophilia.
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ROFL. Shit is never boring in these FKK threads. The dudes falling in love w / these hos is most entertaining of all though.
Anyway, hope to see some of you guys soon as I make my way there again this year.
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[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;1917388]ROFL. Shit is never boring in these FKK threads. The dudes falling in love w / these hos is most entertaining of all though.
Anyway, hope to see some of you guys soon as I make my way there again this year.[/QUOTE]I think there is a difference between falling in love with WGs and recognizing that they can be regular people that have lives outside of sex work.
That has been my main point in my posts in the past 24 hours.
I also hope to meet more English speakers in these clubs.
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My two cents is that long expositions of opinions are making this thread irrelevant to Oase, as well as being incredibly boring.
"Those who know don't talk about it.
Those who talk don't know".
to paraphrase a Zen saying, which is true except when it isn't:)
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1917408]"Those who know don't talk about it.
Those who talk don't know".[/QUOTE]EXACTLY how I feel.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1917408]My two cents is that long expositions of opinions are making this thread irrelevant to Oase, as well as being incredibly boring.[/QUOTE]I completely agree. There are now pages of recent reports (actually not reports just chat) with very little (if any) relevance to FKK Oase. Discussions not relevant to FKK Oase should be in the [B]Lounge and Chat[/B] section. I think Senior Members need to step in here and make their opinions known about what is happening in this thread (the thread is becoming boring and irrelevant with absolutely no information about the club) or better yet report those who continue to post rubbish reports to admin ([B]Jackson[/B]).
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1917425]I completely agree. There are now pages of recent reports (actually not reports just chat) with very little (if any) relevance to FKK Oase. Discussions not relevant to FKK Oase should be in the [B]Lounge and Chat[/B] section. I think Senior Members need to step in here and make their opinions known about what is happening in this thread (the thread is becoming boring and irrelevant with absolutely no information about the club) or better yet report those who continue to post rubbish reports to admin ([B]Jackson[/B]).[/QUOTE]We have a term in America for snitches asking for admin to step in, especially when it is harmless banter. You are the "No fun" Police!
Other posters can feel free to write a report at anytime, but I haven't seen any quality reports on the Oase board since Ortos' report on the 26th.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1917420]EXACTLY how I feel.[/QUOTE]And everybody knows best themselves. We are all a happy narcissistic bunch of guys.
Now to get this back on track again, what are they doing with the renovation in the lounge? I tried asking a girl or two, but they had no idea.
PS: 5 posts about moving the discussion without anything to add regarding Oase is just a waste of bandwidth.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1917455]Now to get this back on track again, what are they doing with the renovation in the lounge? I tried asking a girl or two, but they had no idea.[/QUOTE]Great question! I too would like to know :)
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1917351]The main complaint that Romanian girls tell me about the Germans is that they are cold. But for me the German providers are the hottest in FKKs.[/QUOTE]On average, the German girls are cold and lacking illusion. In my experience they are far more risky than Romanians. Naturally there are exceptions and each person needs to be evaluated on an individual basis.
I have enjoyed some German girls very much, but the failure rate is high. E. g. The famous Marie. Just one of many cold or procedural German girls. In contrast, can't remember ever having a bad session from Czech or Slovak girl. Just a fluke?
Hard to remember a weak girl from Brazil too.
Germany girls could well be my least favourite overall without doing the Stats carefully. This includes girls from Palace, Oase, Sharks and World. German girls in very small clubs were perhaps more reliable.
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I thought we were discussing what the girls were telling clients about other clients with differing nationality, not girls.
I've had great and bad sessions with every nationality I have had encounters with. Romanian, German, Polish, Czech, Russian, Brazilian, Thai.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1917607]I thought we were discussing what the girls were telling clients about other clients with differing nationality, not girls.
HB.[/QUOTE]Some of us would prefer to discuss the girls rather than have thoughts about the customers.
I go to Oase for girls. Attending alone is normal for me. I don't care much about the customers until the girls get too frustrated by lack of business.
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Construction in Oase lounge
[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1917465]Great question! I too would like to know :)[/QUOTE]From the size of the curtained off areas, I'd say old fashioned kissing booths like they have at carnivals, like 5 bucks a kiss. Just a guess.
Or maybe smoking capsules like at the airport.
Beffen- I was wondering myself.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1917273] unbelievable, I would have killed any other vagina.[/QUOTE]That's what I love about you Siri, you're such a stud muffin. All the girls say so.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1917612]Some of us would prefer to discuss the girls rather than have thoughts about the customers.
I go to Oase for girls. Attending alone is normal for me. I don't care much about the customers until the girls get too frustrated by lack of business.[/QUOTE]I go for the girls but also enjoy the camaraderie with other social mongers. In FKK, sessions are only part of the experience, albeit the main part. For social people, having other mongers to socialize makes it a better day.
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Lounge Construction
At one point, Mauro told me that he wanted to make the Lounge more open by removing the mirrored "doors" that separate the bar from the main lounge area, but that was a while back and I never saw any of that work implemented, certainly not within the time frame he predicted. Maybe he is just now getting around to that work now? Construction at Oase always runs way behind schedule.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1917602]On average, the German girls are cold and lacking illusion. In my experience they are far more risky than Romanians. Naturally there are exceptions and each person needs to be evaluated on an individual basis.
I have enjoyed some German girls very much, but the failure rate is high. E. g. The famous Marie. Just one of many cold or procedural German girls. In contrast, can't remember ever having a bad session from Czech or Slovak girl. Just a fluke?
Hard to remember a weak girl from Brazil too.
Germany girls could well be my least favourite overall without doing the Stats carefully. This includes girls from Palace, Oase, Sharks and World. German girls in very small clubs were perhaps more reliable.[/QUOTE]I don't find German girls cold. There are some good providers, and some that are not like the Romanians based on my experience, and I'm not only counting Hessen. A lot of German girls I meet are polite, and it's easy to click with them due to their friendliness and fluidity in communication. Not all are like so like any other nationalities, but most often the case I find. Majority of the Germans I meet are mixed or other national heritage. A lot of them, can't tell by appearance.
I dunno what your definition of illusion is, but as long as they provide me with a good time, I'm cool. No need for them to fake desires for me (with the many dozens of clientel). LOL.
Stats changes over time as we try out more girls, and of different nationalities. For me, luck has been high with Bulgarians, Moroccans (German national), Turkish (German national). But, the sampling is pretty minor, so it can change any time now depending on if masses of them shows up. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1917668]That's what I love about you Siri, you're such a stud muffin. All the girls say so.[/QUOTE]I don't know what is a stud muffin, as girls you meet, say to you, but I never met a girl with stamina and vagina potential like Katea, even she said to me it was a bit painful at the beginning, "tchoutchout bolna" , but she never stopped after, until I said I had to stop the fireworks we could have kept on burning for 3 hours more until the end at 3 am. With most of my girls, I have to be careful not to hurt them and I try not to, such a shame for me when Ariana I liked so much, said to me, but 3 months later: it became painful for her, but never said during our rooms. Not at all because of my licking games as it was written by another jealous member, but she seemed afraid to say to me, when she should have said to me: stop. On this slow business Monday at Sharks, she was more attractive for me than Anja, she came to give me a kiss as always to say: Hello, but if I can go to any girl who attract me in any club, I'm not able to go with her now, so Anja was my second choice, but can t compete with Ariana I knew on end of February until 18 March, when I went with her and not with Megan at this time. Fortunately, Megan was clever enough to understand and after, I kept on going with lovely Megan.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1917602]On average, the German girls are cold and lacking illusion. In my experience they are far more risky than Romanians. Naturally there are exceptions and each person needs to be evaluated on an individual basis.
I have enjoyed some German girls very much, but the failure rate is high. E. g. The famous Marie. Just one of many cold or procedural German girls. In contrast, can't remember ever having a bad session from Czech or Slovak girl. Just a fluke?
Hard to remember a weak girl from Brazil too.
Germany girls could well be my least favourite overall without doing the Stats carefully. This includes girls from Palace, Oase, Sharks and World. German girls in very small clubs were perhaps more reliable.[/QUOTE]That has absolutely not been my experience. I can only recall one German giving me a poor experience and that was in Oase a few years ago when she charged me an extra 50 E for rimming her and management agreed with her, apart from that I have got excellent service from German girls including Nana / Lana / Ana on Monday in Sharks who gave me one of my best FKK sessions ever. I have reached the stage now where I only date the model type Romanians and count myself very lucky if I get a reasonably good session. Isn't that what makes this world such a great place? The variety of experiences between one and the other. I also get good service from Czech and Polish girls but I find them much rarer now than five years ago. I have been to Brazil many times and the women are the best by far on the planet in terms of service.
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Golden age
Could this be the return of the original Swiss Miss of yesteryear?
Michelle of Switzerland? ?
If so. Will book tix straight away.
Any idea of her schedule?
Speaking of golden age maybe Adrianna-Czech will make a comeback. Pardon.
The pun.
Strato.
[QUOTE=Ortos;1914256]LOL!! That is fucking (ooops, wrong adjective!) funny, for those who remember her signiture Blasen style: squating like a "catcher" in American Baseball, but with her generous mouth wrapped lovingly around your erection, her hands on your hips. Good one!
BTW, some of us "old-timers" might suggest the "golden age" at Oase was a few years before Michelle or Sunny. Remember Sunny as a skinny girl with dark hair and a very naughty style? There were hot times well before that.[/QUOTE]
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Adrianna is still working. AFAIK. In Switzerland. Michelle. Never heard of her again. For me a highly overrated girl, looks- and servicewise.
HB.
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Hungarian Elizabeth retired?
I haven't seen Hungarian Elizabeth in a long time. The last time I've seen her was in May. I think maybe she stopped and retired.
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How to reach oase
Hi,
I am in Frankfurt central and want to reach Oase and be back by using public transport as taxi seems incredibly expensive. I have read like 10 pages and there is no info on this. In fact there seems to be only 1 report in last 10 pages.
Can anyone please guide me about this as google maps shows no public transport routes to Oase.
Also, I can either go at around 3-4 PM and be back maybe by 7-8 pm or go at 8-9 PM or be back by 12- 1 AM. How do these choices impact potential public transport options.
Thanks,
Anil
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[QUOTE=MrNiceGuys;1918196]I haven't seen Hungarian Elizabeth in a long time. The last time I've seen her was in May. I think maybe she stopped and retired.[/QUOTE]She is here today, seems to have put on a little weight.
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Some girls seem to take weight, enjoying home mum foods. Not only at Oase, also Madalina at Sharks, but for sure they should eat for next cold Winter, rather than Oase dogs foods once a day when they pay more than 100 for entry. Oase and World management are a shame for me, not respecting their girls health. They should understand girls attract clients and make work their brothel, now I can play football at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=AnilMania;1918701]Hi,
Can anyone please guide me about this as google maps shows no public transport routes to Oase.
Also, I can either go at around 3-4 PM and be back maybe by 7-8 pm or go at 8-9 PM or be back by 12- 1 AM. How do these choices impact potential public transport options.
Thanks,
Anil[/QUOTE]Take S5 to Friedricksdorf (4. 25 euros). From F-dorf it is a 10 euro taxi ride to Oase. Last train back to Frankfurt will be somewhere near midnight, so check return train times on white schedule at F-dorf station. In short, it is possible to go from central Frankfurt to Oase and back for about 30 euros all-in.
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Has anyone seen Laura / Livia the past few days?
Beffen.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1918091] Adrianna is still working. AFAIK. In Switzerland. Michelle. Never heard of her again. For me a highly overrated girl, looks- and servicewise.
HB.[/QUOTE]Don't disagree. Linda / Adriana was a much better lay than Michelle, I would still happily fuck ladies like her in their 40-50's. Michelle was reliable and wild, but not really sensual. Still a great girl to hang out with, her good-mood style is highly missed in nowadays Oase. Isabella, Nina, Gabriella, Adriana, Julie, Vivian, Timea, Judith, Claudia, Luna, Ambra / Raffaella, blond Denisa. Girls with that level of service used to be almost the norm in Oase, unfortunately they are the exceptions now. Sharks has had a higher number of top service providers, at least in the last 2-3 years.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1918808]Has anyone seen Laura / Livia the past few days?
Beffen.[/QUOTE]I thought you said: been there, done that.
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[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1918832]. Isabella, Nina, Gabriella, Adriana, Julie, Vivian, Timea, Judith, Claudia, Luna, Ambra / Raffaella, blond Denisa. Girls with that level of service used to be almost the norm in Oase, unfortunately they are the exceptions now. Sharks has had a higher number of top service providers, at least in the last 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]Linda, at least in my opinion, was actually at her best when she first started out: her early Palace years. That is when Palace was alot different than it became / devolved into, again, only in my opinion.
As for the very impressive list of top peformer girls you quite wonderfully post for us in the above quote: honestly they are exceptions now not only at Oase, but pretty much across the board in all FKKs, nowadays. Or perhaps the lens of hindsight enhances the past more than the present?
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1918876]. Or perhaps the lens of hindsight enhances the past more than the present?[/QUOTE]-Or demand grows as you age?
-Or chemistry wanes as you looses interest?
-Or hormones wanes?
-Or you get less overwhelmed by the options?
-Or you think you are exclusive by claiming a lie on the forum?
Personally I see absolutely zip, zero, no, nada difference in the overall FKK quality of 2016 and 2013,2014 and 2015. Some clubs come up, others go down. But overall its the same.
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Personally I see absolutely zip, zero, no, nada difference in the overall FKK quality of 2016 and 2013,2014 and 2015. Some clubs come up, others go down. But overall its the same.[/QUOTE]True. But the guys were discussing the good old days, way before '13.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1918832] Linda / Adriana was a much better lay than Michelle, I would still happily fuck ladies like her in their 40-50's. Michelle was reliable and wild, but not really sensual. Still a great girl to hang out with, her good-mood style is highly missed in nowadays Oase. Isabella, Nina, Gabriella, Adriana, Julie, Vivian, Timea, Judith, Claudia, Luna, Ambra / Raffaella, blond Denisa. Girls with that level of service used to be almost the norm in Oase, unfortunately they are the exceptions now. Sharks has had a higher number of top service providers, at least in the last 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]The "good old Oase times" finished for me around 5 years ago. Before that I've never asked a girl before a session if she would do this or that or also can't remember that a girl start a session with cleaning my clean dick. Nowadays things are different. Maybe there are now some more better service providers at Sharks than at Oase but this is first questionable and second in now way of the level of the top young good looking girls as it used to be at Oase some years ago.
But even at the good old times at Oase you could find a flop but the large majority performed good and you could find some top level performers. From your list my favs were Ambra / Rafalla (till 2009 before tattoos and silicon), Isabella / Lila, hungarian black belt bearer in turbo-DT Timea and Vivian (nowadays on weekends at Mainhattan) and Adriana / Linda F (booked her very late and she was better than expexted) and polish Julia (before her private break). Additional some gone favs were polish Olivia, Dagmara, Lilly, ofc russian Steffie before silicon, cz Hannah before silicon and with 15 kg less, hungarian Kira (friend of Timea), and romanian big tits Karina and Ramona (ex World Rebecca) and more.
Nowadays I find and have girls at that service level together with good optic but ofc usually it doesn't work anymore for 50 euro to get this level and it's much more difficult to find them. And I don't see any significant difference between Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan and World.
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[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1918832]Don't disagree. Linda / Adriana was a much better lay than Michelle, I would still happily fuck ladies like her in their 40-50's. Michelle was reliable and wild, but not really sensual. Still a great girl to hang out with, her good-mood style is highly missed in nowadays Oase. Isabella, Nina, Gabriella, Adriana, Julie, Vivian, Timea, Judith, Claudia, Luna, Ambra / Raffaella, blond Denisa. Girls with that level of service used to be almost the norm in Oase, unfortunately they are the exceptions now. Sharks has had a higher number of top service providers, at least in the last 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]I was confused at first but I think I now get why some punters say they didn't like Michelle. Her wildness made me blind to the perceived lack of sensuality. I remember the first time I sessioned her, as usual I tried some positions and after a while she was like ok lets try this.. Then this, we had some balancing problems leading to some mishaps and we had a good laugh, it was so much fun. The following year when I entered the club she came up to me and chatted and recited every position we had done twelve months earlier in detail, no way I was not repeating with her. Some people also don't like Sunny but I do for she was good to me. I think everyone liked Simona, she was a real sweetie even more so than Romanian Megan in Sharks who I was fortunate enough to have sessioned with before she went on vacation, she's the best Romanian I've had this trip among a very dismal lot. Anyone remembers a Romanian Sarah at Oase 5 years ago, she was one of the most beautiful women I ever laid. My best girls so far have been German, Moldavian and a Latvian. So far I've been to Oase only once and to Sharks and Mainhattan several times, much more so to Sharks. I will try to visit Oase once again before I leave Germany, for old times sake.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1918880]
Personally I see absolutely zip, zero, no, nada difference in the overall FKK quality of 2016 and 2013,2014 and 2015. Some clubs come up, others go down. But overall its the same.[/QUOTE]You are way off the mark: We are talking about line-ups and club experience about 10+ years ago, not during the years to which you refer.
Do you have any idea who Linda was? Or Michelle?
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1918892]
Nowadays I find and have girls at that service level together with good optic but ofc usually it doesn't work anymore for 50 euro to get this level and it's much more difficult to find them. And I don't see any significant difference between Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan and World.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you write in your post. And absolutely there is no difference between the girls at one club or another: It's a myth that one club has better girls, in general, than another. The line-ups ebb and flow from day to day, week to week, month to month, and girls who work and perform in one club, could / would / do migrate to another club (s) from one day / week / month to the next.
It's all about visiting any of these clubs on the right day, right time, and being able to assess the qualities and select the right girl from the line-up at the club you are in at any given time. This is of course just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1918895]I remember the first time I sessioned her, as usual I tried some positions and after a while she was like ok lets try this.. Then this, we had some balancing problems leading to some mishaps and we had a good laugh, it was so much fun. [/QUOTE]Finally, someone has accurately pinpointed for me why I liked Swiss Michelle so much that during my visits to Oase in that era, I spent most of my time with her. I have never done with any other girl anywhere close to as many ridiculous positions as I had with her. And every session starts with her backward somersault after taking off her shoes such that her pussy would end just above my face for me to lick!
But it was also the good mood factor; not just in the room but throughout the day. Even after we leave the room after the session, she would continue to joke and chat whenever she was not occupied with another customer. And knowing that I was tickled by her bouncing boobs, she would bounce them by walking vigorously every time she spots me from afar and knows that I was looking her way. She was also generous in introducing other girls to me.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1918913]You are way off the mark: We are talking about line-ups and club experience about 10+ years ago, not during the years to which you refer.
Do you have any idea who Linda was? Or Michelle?[/QUOTE]I would add Judith and Lena to the list. I don't think you will find equivalents today.
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[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1918832]Don't disagree. Linda / Adriana was a much better lay than Michelle, I would still happily fuck ladies like her in their 40-50's. Michelle was reliable and wild, but not really sensual. Still a great girl to hang out with, her good-mood style is highly missed in nowadays Oase. Isabella, Nina, Gabriella, Adriana, Julie, Vivian, Timea, Judith, Claudia, Luna, Ambra / Raffaella, blond Denisa. Girls with that level of service used to be almost the norm in Oase, unfortunately they are the exceptions now. Sharks has had a higher number of top service providers, at least in the last 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]Linda / Adriana was a regular girl for me. Quirky but good. She liked having her nipples licked but not grabbed. Her blowjob was the best. Slow and slurpy. Michelle had a different BJ not so good for me. Michelle's looks were nothing special for me and added to the incredibily smoky breathe / taste of a chain smoker, meant I only ever tried her once. Was not a great session for me. Sure I could see she was a pornstar type which is not what I need.
I was not really a regular at Oase 10 years ago. Was a regular at Palace in its early years. My first girl at Oase was Gabriella, possibly 2005.
Judith never really worked out for me. Pussy was too small. Black Luna was great despite the sillies.
Lena was the absolute star top girl in the room that I knew. I was also very keen on Kimmy Brazil but that is not as far back. What was her Oase name? Something like Cynthia.
In the modern years we have had a few girls really great in the room too. Probably the room standard average accross all the girls has declined slightly, but can still find super girls. I would bot know about pornstar types.
The overall standard of looks has improved over the years. Very few really pretty girls in the old days with odd exceptions like Kimmy. Cassandra probably the best looker ever seen by myself followed by Valentina. Both lasted a relatively short time. Marie stunning for many, not so much for me. Body yes, face not quite. Riccarda was also greatly over rated for me. No GFE for me did not like doggy nor fucking and BJ not soft. Clearly a dick scared girl. Maybe very small would suit her.
There has always been some levels of upsell at oase since even old times, however it increases along with the girls' need to make more money. Not generally a big problem for guys taking their regular girls.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1918892]The "good old Oase times" finished for me around 5 years ago. Before that I've never asked a girl before a session if she would do this or that or also can't remember that a girl start a session with cleaning my clean dick. Nowadays things are different. Maybe there are now some more better service providers at Sharks than at Oase but this is first questionable and second in now way of the level of the top young good looking girls as it used to be at Oase some years ago.
But even at the good old times at Oase you could find a flop but the large majority performed good and you could find some top level performers. From your list my favs were Ambra / Rafalla (till 2009 before tattoos and silicon), Isabella / Lila, hungarian black belt bearer in turbo-DT Timea and Vivian (nowadays on weekends at Mainhattan) and Adriana / Linda F (booked her very late and she was better than expexted) and polish Julia (before her private break). Additional some gone favs were polish Olivia, Dagmara, Lilly, ofc russian Steffie before silicon, cz Hannah before silicon and with 15 kg less, hungarian Kira (friend of Timea), and romanian big tits Karina and Ramona (ex World Rebecca) and more.
Nowadays I find and have girls at that service level together with good optic but ofc usually it doesn't work anymore for 50 euro to get this level and it's much more difficult to find them. And I don't see any significant difference between Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan and World.[/QUOTE]Then what we mongers supposed to do? LOL.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1919048] My first girl at Oase was Gabriella, possibly 2005.
I was also very keen on Kimmy Brazil but that is not as far back. What was her Oase name? Something like Cynthia.[/QUOTE]There was a superb Brazillian called Cynthia whom I frequented in 2010. Another favorite of mine between 2008-2011 was the Venezuelian Gabriella, but might not be one you mentioned as 2005 as I thought she was relatively new when I first took her in 2008. If I recall correctly, she finally had a boob job before she disappeared (I stopped going to her when I spotted the huge silicones.)
Current receptionist Alina was also quite good back in 2009 when she first arrived from Globe, but started getting moody in subsequent years.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919074] Another favorite of mine between 2008-2011 was the Venezuelian Gabriella, but unlikely to be one you mentioned as 2005 as I thought she was relatively new at that time.
[/QUOTE]Same girl. Fucked her in 2005. Most girls will tell you they are "new", they hardly tell you "I've been here for five years. ", makes it difficult to pass as a 21 year old also.
HB.
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Just can't agree
At Ortos and Craiova.
Yesterday at Oase:
The first girl that bugged me (I ha no interest at all): "what do you like in the room", to make love I replied, "ok, how much? Neither the first nor the last time I heard this exact question in oase, funnily enough never heard it anywhere else.
Later in the room with a semi regular I know from elsewhere, after I finished within the 30 minutes, "but I kissed you good, we have to stay one hour, we always stay one hour". I told her it wasn't my idea to get the rubber out after 10 minutes and asked her if she would have said something like that in her previous club. She did not really care for that comment, but mumbled a "no".
A new girl (3 days in Germany) asked me why I was sad and I told her because of the crappy sex I just had, without DFK. She explained: "But we can only kiss if you stay one hour, it is the rule here". According to whom, I asked "did the boss tell you? A bit less sure of her self "no, the girls told me".
This crap just doesn't happen that blatently in Sharks and World (in my experience). When a session is good, I more often than not stay longer, but it is not a given. Mia in Sharks still tells me after 25 minutes that we are approaching the 30 minute mark. Some of my favorite girls in Sharks the past few years were mostly 30 minute girls (often because they were just whirlwinds in the room). That you need to spend 100 euros is just not true for me and girls really don't change their performance when they notice you have reacched the 31 minute mark.
I still have very good sex in Oase (occasionally), but mostly with girls I know from elsewhere. The exceptions the last year have been Tatiana and Ina (who is perfectly fine for 30 minutes as well).
If you move away from Hessen, the 100 euro thing hold even less water. You can have great sex for 40 euros or sometimes even 30 euros. If you look at my favorite girls in 2015,90% of them worked for 80,75 or 70 an hour.
Back to Oase yesterday. A better line up than Thursday in Sharks, but still clearly suffering from "holiday season". I had 4 sessions, 3 of which included DFK, but none of them of the level that would warrent more than 30 minutes (some of them still decent enough). Spent the same amount of money as in Sharks with only 1 session.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;1918996]I would add Judith and Lena to the list. I don't think you will find equivalents today.[/QUOTE]Plus one about Judith.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1919048] Sure I could see she was a pornstar type which is not what I need.[/QUOTE]My view of a porn star type is a girl who makes a lot of noise with fake enjoyment and fake enthusiasm (acting) which I find distracting. Michelle was nothing like that. She genuinely enjoyed sex which for me is more important than any other quality in a sex partner.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude]
Back to Oase yesterday. A better line up than Thursday in Sharks, but still clearly suffering from "holiday season". I had 4 sessions, 3 of which included DFK, but none of them of the level that would warrent more than 30 minutes (some of them still decent enough). Spent the same amount of money as in Sharks with only 1 session.[/QUOTE]I don't go with girls asking too many questions either. I have less problems at Oase being a 1 hour dude.
I have also heard plenty about the girls club special rules.
So I wonder what keeps bringing you to Oase. Its not like World was when we met for great service 30 min sessions.
Is it for the girl you already know? I mostly do my old favourites.
What makes you go to Oase over Sharks? For me it is certain known girls and sometimes more pretty faces than Sharks. Also summer days by the pool a minor consideration.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1919106]My view of a porn star type is a girl who makes a lot of noise with fake enjoyment and fake enthusiasm (acting) which I find distracting. Michelle was nothing like that. She genuinely enjoyed sex which for me is more important than any other quality in a sex partner.[/QUOTE]I only meant by services and exotic practices. It was not meant to suggest fakeness. However just one session was not enough to build chemistry I am sure.
Sorry I have to say she had an ashtray mouth that day. Could not kiss enjoyably. May have been too fast after her previous customer.
I have met quite a number of girls able to give the impression of enjoying sex at times. So not too unusual.
Some can be real or undectable acting.
Occasionally meet some bad acting but not too often. I don't really like girls who act fake either, assuming I can detect it. Dirty talk doesn't work for me. Instructions for what she likes is O.K.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919074]There was a superb Brazillian called Cynthia whom I frequented in 2010. Another favorite of mine between 2008-2011 was the Venezuelian Gabriella, but might not be one you mentioned as 2005 as I thought she was relatively new when I first took her in 2008. If I recall correctly, she finally had a boob job before she disappeared (I stopped going to her when I spotted the huge silicones.)
Current receptionist Alina was also quite good back in 2009 when she first arrived from Globe, but started getting moody in subsequent years.[/QUOTE]I checked and it was actually August 2006 my first visit to Oase having only started at various FKKs in 2004, beginning Tropicana in Duesseldorf long gone. Many early visits to Phoenix Stuttgart and then Palace and Oase.
We are agreed on Cynthia. A beautiful GFE model. I remember well seeing her driving and parking her black sports car too. She left the Palace to go to Oase because she said the girls at Palace had a bad attitude. LOL
So Gabriella was one of the early Oase girls. Louisa also I remember from early on. I don't remember too many others as was mainly at Palace till late 2008.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1919131]Sorry I have to say she had an ashtray mouth that day. Could not kiss enjoyably. May have been too fast after her previous customer.[/QUOTE]I can't recall her smoky breath. About 20 years ago at work I attended a high level meeting and seated next to me was this sexy female executive with whom I chatted occasionally, her breath was a mixture of cigarette smoke and coffee and I was turned on to the point of a very hard erection. She had such an effect on me that up to today an ashtray mouth, as you put it, does not turn me off. If ever I get that combination of cigarette smoke and coffee I'll go berserk.
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There was nothing about Michelle from Blasel that appealed to me. She walked like a man on her high heels. Her voice and especially the broad Basel accent (very primitive sound for German ears compared the sweet Schwyzerdütsch some girls are talking) turned me off every time I saw her. And her body was let's say it politically correct not very defined. Never understood why she had so many regulars, so o went with her and found her service average, maybe worse. My 2 cents on an "Oase top act".
HB.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;1918996]I would add Judith and Lena to the list. I don't think you will find equivalents today.[/QUOTE]Yep both were highest level. The good news is you still can find girls at this level but the bad news is you must invest much more money.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1919048]
The overall standard of looks has improved over the years. Very few really pretty girls in the old days with odd exceptions like Kimmy. Cassandra probably the best looker ever seen by myself followed by Valentina. Both lasted a relatively short time. Marie stunning for many, not so much for me. Body yes, face not quite. Riccarda was also greatly over rated for me. No GFE for me did not like doggy nor fucking and BJ not soft.[/QUOTE]Which Cassandra you mean, the summer 2012 Cassandra? Valentina I don't know. Ice cool Marie was only a 9 and yes Riccarda was greatly over rated.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1919086]This crap just doesn't happen that blatently in Sharks and World (in my experience).[/QUOTE]I've heard the same crap also at Sharks and World. Maybe it's less at the 6 and 7 optic level girls there (and Sharks has many girls at that range), but by comparison of the 8 and higher girls I don't see any difference in average between Oase and Sharks, World and Mainhattan.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1919214]There was nothing about Michelle from Blasel that appealed to me. She walked like a man on her high heels. Her voice and especially the broad Basel accent (very primitive sound for German ears compared the sweet Schwyzerdtsch some girls are talking) turned me off every time I saw her. And her body was let's say it politically correct not very defined. Never understood why she had so many regulars, so o went with her and found her service average, maybe worse. My 2 cents on an "Oase top act"[/QUOTE]+ 1 Wow we agree about a girl. And her breath was really smoky. 100 % wasn't my type. But many years ago I've lost a bet with a friend and my punishment was a session with Miss Blasel. First shock she kissed me and I smell the smoke so I stopped immediately kissing. Brrr Ok than enjoy her famous BJ but this was nothing I would rate her BJ below 7, and is this true she didn't BL?
Left room after 15 minutes and took immediately listerine and a shower.
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Personal Favourites over the years
Since some of us are on the reminiscing mode, here is my list of favourites in Oase which I started visiting in 2007. These were my 'must do in every visit' girls which I had taken many many times over more than 1 year, but excludes flash-in-the-pan wonders that I tried and who then disappeared after a few months. The year of my first session with them is also indicated. Of course it will certainly not tally with the list of most others as I only go for slim girls (except Michelle), and their inclusion is greatly dependent on mutual chemistry.
Michelle. Ch. 2008.
Gabriella. Ven. 2008.
Heidi. Hu. 2009.
Judith. Hu. 2010.
Anabel. De. 2010.
Tessa. De. 2010.
Alicia. Po. 2011.
Isabella. Po. 2011.
Simona. Ro. 2011.
Jessica. Ro. 2012.
Ivana. Ro. 2012.
Selena. Ro. 2012.
Adina. Ro. 2013 (not Marina).
Lavinia. Ro. 2013.
Elizabeth. Cz. 2013.
Julia (short blonde). Ro. 2014.
Juicy. Ro. 2014.
Carla. Ro. 2014 as Cindy in Sharks
Ilinka. Ro. 2014 as Diana in World
On looking at my list, I did not realise until now that no Romies featured in the first 1/3 of my career at Oase, and after that, they dominated!
Also that I had not found any new favorites in Oase in 2015 or 2016 so far, whereas I found quite a few in other clubs.
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True I forgot slovakian Lena in my list, maybe because it was always difficult to get hold of her when she was in the club.
[QUOTE=Craiova;1918892] And I don't see any significant difference between Oase, Sharks, Mainhattan and World.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ortos;1918915] And absolutely there is no difference between the girls at one club or another: It's a myth that one club has better girls, in general, than another. The line-ups ebb and flow from day to day, week to week, month to month, and girls who work and perform in one club, could / would / do migrate to another club (s) from one day / week / month to the next.
It's all about visiting any of these clubs on the right day, right time, and being able to assess the qualities and select the right girl from the line-up at the club you are in at any given time. [/QUOTE]This is your experience, not mine.
I am not biased to one or another hessen club like you guys from the Oase-Sharks-Mainhattan fan clubs (I would be in the GT fan club, if ever) but I experience a significant difference today between Sharks and Oase (Mainhattan I don't consider in the same category). I used to like Oase more than Sharks for many years, still like the club more (especially outdoors and rooms) , but the attitude and average level of service in Oase has decreased significantly in the last 2-3 years.
Repeat material Oase girls active in last 2-3 years: Ina, Elizabeth. Cz, Isabella (come back please), maybe Gina and Tatiana if I am generous.
Repeat material Sharks girls active in last 2-3 years: Sandra, Agnes, Kelly, Milana, Pamela, Karolina, Domenica, Aylice, Annabel, Marina, Kimba, Stephanie, maybe Moira and Patricia if I am generous.
Number of visits per club more or less the same, since I like to change.
All this girls top service, all this girls (except Agnes) ready to give me their best even for 30/50, though I rarely kept them with me in the room for less than 60 min.
That stat is enough for me.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1919086]
This crap just doesn't happen that blatently in Sharks and World (in my experience). When a session is good, I more often than not stay longer, but it is not a given.
[/QUOTE]What can you say other than the often spoken: YMMV. Each guy has his own experiences and can only report (one hopes truthfully) based on those. Why did you get "attitude" from the girls you write about at Oase yesterday? Who knows, for sure? But maybe some of the Oase girls spotted you as a one of the beloved "tourists" you keep complaining about? Or maybe they cottoned on to your Dutch accent and thought (wrongly, of course!) that, just as the old cliche goes, all Dutch are cheap sods and they didn't want to give out very much service to a "tourist" like you?? Just idle speculation, of course.
Again, who knows for sure, but I can only say that (lucky for me, I guess) based on my past visits (even within the last calendar year): I've rarely if ever encountered the attitude or selected the type of girls you describe. But then again, like a few others here (e. G. Syz, etc.) I've morphed into a 1-HR Zimmer man several years ago, meaning I deliberately seek to session with girls I like for more than 30 minutes. I only end the session and walk away at the 30 mins mark if the session doesn't go well or whatever. And then I feel very disappointed, usually with myself for choosing a bad apple from the barrel. If I am careful in my selection of new girls (and lucky, I suppose) then it works out at a good 1 hour. If not, I walk at 30 mins. But that is my personal choice and style, and I respect that other guys might like a fast romp or don't want to spend bigger money. I just cannot enjoy "fast food" 30-minutes sessions anymore, so I seek to find a good partner for a longer, more relaxed experience. For me, I'd much prefer to have two good 1 hour sessions than 4 shorter 30 mins /50 e jobs. To each their own.
Of course, if any of us go with regular girls with whom we have a history of positive 1-HR sessions, we kind of protect ourselves against bad experiences, at least most of the time. In other words, if it works for you, sticking with known good choices and regular girls can be a prophylactic measure to ensure good, positive results.
At Oase, or any other club, like Sharks: When I try new girls, which I often do, I truly hope as I enter the Zimmer with the girl for the first time that I will encounter the performance / attitude / chemistry to achieve a good 60-min session. But I always know, and make clear to the (new) girl before the start, that if I don't feel good about the session, I might end it at 30 mins. It often works out well for me, but sometimes not, so I walk away from lack-lustre sessions with new girls at or before the 30 min mark. Remember, even if you suggest or plant in the girl's mind the idea of staying more than 30 minutes, there is nothing to stop you from aborting the session at 30 mins, for whatever reasons if you suddenly decide you don't want to stay longer. There is no signed contact only an implied agreement that you will pay for the time and services that you actually enjoy or receive in the room. At least this is my experience. Never had troubles about this.
However, I bet we can all agree on one thing (oops, sorry, I forgot, never does everybody agree about anything on this board, LOL): Over the past few years, from many girls' perspectives, there has been an attitude shift in Hessen clubs about the value of 50 e /30 mins sessions compared to, say, in the NRW. I can't say this for sure, as I've stopped visiting NRW clubs as often as I used to, but generally speaking, one might well get "more bang for your Fifty" in NRW clubs than in Hessen these days. Again, I am speaking in general terms. At the same time, and being now a dedicated 1-hr session man: I get great "bang for my 100 euro note" in Hessen these days, so I am generally happy. :)
And I know: not everybody agrees on this or anything else, right?
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[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1919247]
I am not biased to one or another hessen club like you guys from the Oase-Sharks-Mainhattan fan clubs (I would be in the GT fan club, if ever) but I experience a significant difference today between Sharks and Oase (Mainhattan I don't consider in the same category). [/QUOTE]I do not consider me a "fan" of any club. I've visited Oase 300+ and World / Sharks each 200+ times. In the last 24 months Sharks dominated. It's not the club. Not the rooms. Not the food. There's jo advantage for me in pushing any club. It's the number of good looking girls giving good service without upselling or demanding extra money for standard services.
Oase has gotten worse re girl's service attitude. It's not on the same service level as Sharks or World. It's not as bad as Palace or Mainhattan though. I know Craiova will not agree. We have different taste in girls, services and clubs. That's ok. ;)
Years ago I was at Palace often. People kept telling me I am pushing Palace. I wasn't. I was just having a great time with great girls there. This has become more and more difficult nowadays as it has become a tourist club.
HB.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919246]Sin
Ilinka. Ro. 2014 as Diana in World
[/QUOTE]Ilinka is back to World.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1919229]Which Cassandra you mean, the summer 2012 Cassandra? Valentina I don't know. Ice cool Marie was only a 9 and yes Riccarda was greatly over rated.[/QUOTE]Sounds about right. Valentina was later but not many visits by her. I only got one session. She was the prettiest for a while in my opinion. Not blonde though.
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[QUOTE=Dutedrac;1919247]True I forgot slovakian Lena in my list, maybe because it was always difficult to get hold of her when she was in the club.
This is your experience, not mine.
I am not biased to one or another hessen club like you guys from the Oase-Sharks-Mainhattan fan clubs (I would be in the GT fan club, if ever) but I experience a significant difference today between Sharks and Oase (Mainhattan I don't consider in the same category). I used to like Oase more than Sharks for many years, still like the club more (especially outdoors and rooms) , but the attitude and average level of service in Oase has decreased significantly in the last 2-3 years.
Repeat material Oase girls active in last 2-3 years: Ina, Elizabeth. Cz, Isabella (come back please), maybe Gina and Tatiana if I am generous.
Repeat material Sharks girls active in last 2-3 years: Sandra, Agnes, Kelly, Milana, Pamela, Karolina, Domenica, Aylice, Annabel, Marina, Kimba, Stephanie, maybe Moira and Patricia if I am generous.
Number of visits per club more or less the same, since I like to change.
All this girls top service, all this girls (except Agnes) ready to give me their best even for 30/50, though I rarely kept them with me in the room for less than 60 min.
That stat is enough for me.[/QUOTE]I sort of agree with most of your girls. Not all are fabulous looking of course so a small few I never tried. I am sure a few more could be found at Oase too, especially if don't have to be stunning.
I would say the overall quality of the bodies is a little better at Sharks recently, with only a small number of really bad figures. For really pretty girls faces, Oase used to be ahead but its pretty close now. Maybe Sharks ahead slightly recently. However the line ups flutuate a lot.
Of course the overall standard is of little consequence. Only the top 6 girls really matter to me. I have not currently got a top 6 at either Sharks or Oase. Somewhat less girls in the must repeat group right now. Lucky since I cannot do six girls.
Carla at Oase would be favorite right now for 1 hour. Was not the case first session but she got better and better.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1919234]I've heard the same crap also at Sharks and World. Maybe it's less at the 6 and 7 optic level girls there (and Sharks has many girls at that range), but by comparison of the 8 and higher girls I don't see any difference in average between Oase and Sharks, World and Mainhattan.[/QUOTE]I consider Megan, Evita, and Alexia all at least 8 optic level girls and none of them asked for an upsell on our first sessions, all DFK. Only had Megan for 30 minutes and she did not upsell at all.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919246]Since some of us are on the reminiscing mode, here is my list of favourites in Oase which I started visiting in 2007. These were my 'must do in every visit' girls which I had taken many many times over more than 1 year, but excludes flash-in-the-pan wonders that I tried and who then disappeared after a few months. The year of my first session with them is also indicated. Of course it will certainly not tally with the list of most others as I only go for slim girls (except Michelle), and their inclusion is greatly dependent on mutual chemistry.
Michelle. Ch. 2008.
Gabriella. Ven. 2008.
Heidi. Hu. 2009.
Judith. Hu. 2010.
Anabel. De. 2010.
Tessa. De. 2010.
Alicia. Po. 2011.
Isabella. Po. 2011.
Simona. Ro. 2011.
Jessica. Ro. 2012.
Ivana. Ro. 2012.
Selena. Ro. 2012.
Adina. Ro. 2013 (not Marina).
Lavinia. Ro. 2013.
Elizabeth. Cz. 2013.
Julia (short blonde). Ro. 2014.
Juicy. Ro. 2014.
Carla. Ro. 2014 as Cindy in Sharks
Ilinka. Ro. 2014 as Diana in World
On looking at my list, I did not realise until now that no Romies featured in the first 1/3 of my career at Oase, and after that, they dominated!
Also that I had not found any new favorites in Oase in 2015 or 2016 so far, whereas I found quite a few in other clubs.[/QUOTE]I think a personal list of favourites is such an individual thing. So I agree with surprisingly few of your girls, a couple not even known. Some were even lousy for me. No doubt a few of my favourites were really lousy for others too.
Alltime favourites at Oase (the must do girls at their best):
Sylvia (Hun) 2013.
Sophie (Cze) 2008.
Lena (Svk) 2009.
Magda (Pol) 2009.
Lavinia (Rom) 2012.
Cynthia (Bra) Palace Kimmi 2010.
Adriana (Cze) Palace Linda 2010.
Luna (Dom) 2012.
Elizabeth (Cze) 2012.
Carla (Rom) brunette 2015.
Christina (Rom) 2014.
Ina (Lat) 2014.
Maria (Deu) 2013.
Adina (Rom) Also not Marina.
Cassandra (Deu) 2011 (a must do from optics)
Some were must do girls from the first session, some improved to become must do girls.
They could have come from anywhere at all but Czech / Slovakian girls slightly over represented. Probably just a fluke.
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Any list that includes Julia (short blonde) and talks about service sounds like you came from a different reality than me. I'd rate her service a 5. Aside from that, I don't know if I sessioned with any of the girls on tanktanks list.
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Julia
[QUOTE=Pistons;1919334]Any list that includes Julia (short blonde) and talks about service sounds like you came from a different reality than me. I'd rate her service a 5. Aside from that, I don't know if I sessioned with any of the girls on tanktanks list.[/QUOTE]I assume TT means the Julia with short, blonde hair and bird tattoo on back shoulder, quite often together with Sabina / Ramona / SJ. Last seen at Palace.
Pretty girl 8,5, smart, first class attitude and top service 9,0.
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Thats the one. Had a bad experience with her back in 2013. Never repeated since.
I must agree it seems the top sharks girls does less upselling than the top Oase girls. But in my experience it also seems Sharks has a higher degree of tourists than Oase. So there I have to disagree strongly with HB.
The only kissing when doing 60 min session must stop at Oase. What I do, is to never tip girls who upsell. But I allways tip the girls who does well without upselling. Especially for 30 min.
And the chances for a repeat more than doubles if I don't see any upselling...
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1919354]
I must agree it seems the top sharks girls does less upselling than the top Oase girls. But in my experience it also seems Sharks has a higher degree of tourists than Oase. So there I have to disagree strongly with HB.
[/QUOTE]You can disagree as much as you like. But regular local guests at Oase are rare, there's a lot more at Sharks. Not only during Messe periods.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1919372]You can disagree as much as you like. But regular local guests at Oase are rare, there's a lot more at Sharks. Not only during Messe periods.
HB.[/QUOTE]Well I talked to about 20 guys last time I was at sharks (to check how much there was to this), jet just 1 was a local from hessen. Maybe that was you.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1919250] Remember, even if you suggest or plant in the girl's mind the idea of staying more than 30 minutes, there is nothing to stop you from aborting the session at 30 mins, for whatever reasons if you suddenly decide you don't want to stay longer. There is no signed contact only an implied agreement that you will pay for the time and services that you actually enjoy or receive in the room. At least this is my experience. Never had troubles about this. [/QUOTE]When a prima donna tells me that she will only allow DFK / DATY / rimming if I commit to a 1 HR session I imagine that the session will begin with those activities. Now if the FS is terrible I imagine that I will be bound by the 100 E charge because she did those activities which she would not have done for a 50 E session. Also if I pop before the 30' mark I don't get a second pop. That extra 50 E could have been spent getting a second pop from another girl.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1919372]You can disagree as much as you like. But regular local guests at Oase are rare, there's a lot more at Sharks. Not only during Messe periods.
HB.[/QUOTE]You may have misused English here. The correct term is "fewer" however regular local guests at Oase are certainly not "rare". Every weekend I attend there are regulars that are seen consistently almost every week. Not a huge number of them but they exist. These guys rarely go to other clubs. There are others that are seen not every week but certainly are recognised frequently.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1919407]You may have misused English here. The correct term is "fewer" however regular local guests at Oase are certainly not "rare". [/QUOTE]Rare like seldom or not very many. That's what I wanted to express.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1919372]But regular local guests at Oase are rare, there's a lot more at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Theres a lot more locals at Sharks allright, particularly on Sunday for the cheap entry! :D
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1919421]Theres a lot more locals at Sharks allright, particularly on Sunday for the cheap entry! :D[/QUOTE]And on Wednesday, for job meeting, for only 50.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1919334]Any list that includes Julia (short blonde) and talks about service sounds like you came from a different reality than me. I'd rate her service a 5. Aside from that, I don't know if I sessioned with any of the girls on tanktanks list.[/QUOTE]What different reality are you talkin about? Do you really know which Julia it is?
[QUOTE=Pistons;1919354]Thats the one. Had a bad experience with her back in 2013. Never repeated since.[/QUOTE]Once again, do you really know this Julia? I only met her late 2014, and never seen her in 2013.
By the way, I had a good time with her as well. Craiova's idea of top service maybe different from mine though. One of the better picks at Oase of the latest 2-3 years. That isn't saying much.
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The description sounded like her. What can I say? Name was also Julia.
This is getting rediculous.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1919415]Rare like seldom or not very many. That's what I wanted to express.
HB.[/QUOTE]"Not very many" can pass. I find them every time I attend. That is not rare nor even seldom. Almost 100% of the sample occasions. Mr A and Mr H are rarely not there on Saturdays. Both really nice old guys. These are two local regulars I know best. They both have their regular FKK wives. One was not so happy that Isabella retired I guess. That leaves Monica and Sophia as his main goto girls.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1919343]I assume TT means the Julia with short, blonde hair and bird tattoo on back shoulder, quite often together with Sabina / Ramona / SJ. Last seen at Palace.
Pretty girl 8,5, smart, first class attitude and top service 9,0.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is the one. Came in mid 2014 from Globe. Cute pixie face, good conversationalist, good work ethics having come from Globe. She set her timer without my asking in our first session and serviced me till the last minute; whereupon I kept extending till 2 hours until it was way past my target time for going home.
Later, she teamed up with Ramona/Sabina who was a bad influence on her. Once, when I noticed she finished off a customer super fast, I asked her why she did not abide by the full 30 minutes on her timer. She replied that Ramona/Sabina had asked her to finish quickly so that they could continue on their prowls as she (Ramona) was still far from her target $$ for the day.
But when she sees me, she will dump Ramona and concentrate on giving me first class service. Pistons could have taken her on a day when she had committed to work intensively with Ramona.
One interesting snippet that I can reveal since she is gone. In the following year, she donned spectacles. When I asked her why, she said that she had a pair of customers with teacher fetish who came frequently, and they provided good money to her for role playing. Unfortunately, she refused to reveal what that entailed; it must be spanking or caning I think.
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Could have been 2014 yes. Hmm. She is like 1. 50 tall right? She used to stroll around the pool looking good with her fit body. Can't recall if she just had perky breasts or some silicone, but not much gravity. She was so petite though that sex got a bit awkward in some positions... and a little rushed as well yes...
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919550]
One interesting snippet that I can reveal since she is gone. [/QUOTE]I think she still is working. At Palace.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1919569]Could have been 2014 yes. Hmm. She is like 1. 50 tall, maybe 1. 55 right?[/QUOTE]She's taller than that. For sure 160 cm plus.
HB.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919550]Yes, this is the one. Came in mid 2014 from Globe. Cute pixie face, good conversationalist, good work ethics having come from Globe. She set her timer without my asking in our first session and serviced me till the last minute; whereupon I kept extending till 2 hours until it was way past my target time for going home.
Later, she teamed up with Ramona/Sabina who was a bad influence on her. Once, when I noticed she finished off a customer super fast, I asked her why she did not abide by the full 30 minutes on her timer. She replied that Ramona/Sabina had asked her to finish quickly so that they could continue on their prowls as she (Ramona) was still far from her target $$ for the day.
[/QUOTE]When Julia first started, she wasn't pretty enough to be my first choice, having a slightly "Tomboy" look. Competition was strong in 2014. Consequently a couple of times she approached me, and I did not accept. I am usually resting, and rarely take new approaching girls. One day I decided to try her, having heard rumours she could be very good, but she said "no thanks". Fair enough, her choice. Subsequently, on a day she had little business, she came to me and asked if a girl could get a second chance. I said sure, but not right at that time. Girls usually come at the wrong time. Turned out did not take her that day. The next time I asked her for a session, she was back to "No Thanks" again. Having fun with Sabina was more a priority or she did not like me.
Okay Sometimes it is just that there are higher priorities, mutually. I have to admit to trying to get a session at times when the other good options were not so numerous. She only wanted me when there was no business, naturally.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919550]Yes, this is the one. Came in mid 2014 from Globe. Cute pixie face, good conversationalist, good work ethics having come from Globe. She set her timer without my asking in our first session and serviced me till the last minute; whereupon I kept extending till 2 hours until it was way past my target time for going home.
Later, she teamed up with Ramona/Sabina who was a bad influence on her. Once, when I noticed she finished off a customer super fast, I asked her why she did not abide by the full 30 minutes on her timer. She replied that Ramona/Sabina had asked her to finish quickly so that they could continue on their prowls as she (Ramona) was still far from her target $$ for the day.
[/QUOTE]When Julia first started, she wasn't pretty enough to be my first choice, having a slightly "Tomboy" look. Competition was strong in 2014. I thought she was very short without heels. Consequently a couple of times she approached me, and I did not accept. I am usually resting, and rarely take new approaching girls. One day I decided to try her, having heard rumours she could be very good, but she said "no thanks". Fair enough, her choice. Subsequently, on a day she had little business, she came to me and asked if a girl could get a second chance. I said sure, but not right at that time. Girls usually come at the wrong time. Turned out did not take her that day. The next time I asked her for a session, she was back to "No Thanks" again. Having fun with Sabina was more a priority or she did not like me.
Okay Sometimes it is just that there are higher priorities, mutually. I have to admit to trying to get a session at times when the other good options were not so numerous. She only wanted me when there was no business, naturally. I don't get very many knock backs from girls I have not tried and don't know, when there is no obvious reason. Unusual but can happen. There is gossip of course.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919550]
Later, she teamed up with Ramona/Sabina who was a bad influence on her. Once, when I noticed she finished off a customer super fast, I asked her why she did not abide by the full 30 minutes on her timer. She replied that Ramona/Sabina had asked her to finish quickly so that they could continue on their prowls as she (Ramona) was still far from her target $$ for the day.
[/QUOTE]When Julia first started, she wasn't pretty enough to be my first choice, having a slightly "Tomboy" look. Competition was strong in 2014. Consequently a couple of times she approached me, and I did not accept. I am usually resting, and rarely take new approaching girls. One day I decided to try her, having heard rumours she could be very good, but she said "no thanks". Fair enough, her choice. Subsequently, on a day she had little business, she came to me and asked if a girl could get a second chance. I said sure, but not right at that time. Girls usually come at the wrong time. Turned out did not take her that day. The next time I asked her for a session, she was back to "No Thanks" again. Having fun with Sabina was more a priority or she did not like me.
Okay Sometimes it is just that there are higher priorities, mutually. I have to admit to trying to get a session at times when the other good options were not so numerous. She only wanted me when there was no business, naturally. She and Sabina were probably doing very well from threesomes with extra doubtful services and lots of upsell.
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Girls stay new for a long time.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1565356]
Newer girls (probably started since late 2013) :
Yulia / Julia, (hottish blonde with glasses)
Julia, Rom (via Greece) short haired blonde.
Roxanna (blonde with hot body, slimmish)
Bella (looks tall but very high heels)
Andrea (blonde with good slim body but horsey face. Popular)
Brianna (or Riannha?) (tall slim narrow eyes)
Sophie (slim brunette)
Anca (178 cm returned to Oase Dec after being here many years back) Very pretty.
Angelica (mixed colour short hair. Cute)
A "Cameron Diaz" slightly lookalike blonde with saggy tits.
Christina, (hot bodied blonde wearing black bow-tie)
Fabiana, (very pretty blonde with good body wearing yellow top)
Sue-Jenella? (pretty face, short, ass slightly too big friend of Jennifer)
Prettiest new girls to my taste (meaning face and good body) : Fabiana, Christina, Roxanna, Sue-Jenella?
[/QUOTE]TT123,
My report 9th May 2014 shows Julia (one of the 3 Julias) was already there, who knows how long. I had taken a long holiday from Oase, after my favourite Sylvia (friend of Judith) left in 2013, she was not cut out to do the job. Amazingly real in the room though. Funny I could not spell Suginella, and Emma was of course the one looking like Cameron Diaz. Sabina-Ramona was in Sharks and arrived at Oase a few weeks later end of July, I guess.
Syzy.
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Even difficult job for her, no problem to get Sabina Scarlet Johanson single, not the best performer in room, but sweet, friendly, smiling, not the faintest upselling during our 3 or 4 rooms. What a pretty face with her beautiful green eyes and beautiful teeth, as I said to her: You are prettier than the actress even after she gets make up and hair care for hours before camera. Then she smiled, only Megan compete for pretty face for me. I don't understand how I missed Sabina / Ramona at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919550]Yes, this is the one. Came in mid 2014 from Globe. Cute pixie face, good conversationalist, good work ethics having come from Globe. She set her timer without my asking in our first session and serviced me till the last minute; whereupon I kept extending till 2 hours until it was way past my target time for going home.
Later, she teamed up with Ramona/Sabina who was a bad influence on her. Once, when I noticed she finished off a customer super fast, I asked her why she did not abide by the full 30 minutes on her timer. She replied that Ramona/Sabina had asked her to finish quickly so that they could continue on their prowls as she (Ramona) was still far from her target $$ for the day.
But when she sees me, she will dump Ramona and concentrate on giving me first class service. Pistons could have taken her on a day when she had committed to work intensively with Ramona.
[/QUOTE]So 19 yo Ramona / Sabina has changed the work moral of 27 yo Julia. And right Julia came from Globe and has worked at many clubs before. Can't imagine this.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1919612]TT123,
My report 9th May 2014 shows Julia (one of the 3 Julias) was already there, who knows how long.[/QUOTE]Yes, my first session with Julia was in April 2014. I had not seen her in my visits to Oase before that. And here is an extract of a post I made on 2 May 2014, a few pages before your post:
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Last week, Julia approached me and told me she was Greek. I mentioned that I was in Athens last year and asked which town she was from. She said Thessaloniki. I pointed to a Romanian girl at the next sofa and said that coincidentally, that Romanian girl also had told me an hour before that she was from Thessaloniki, but that when I said that I had also gone to Thessaloniki too last year, that Romanian girl admitted she was not Greek. I told Julia that I had noticed her talking to that Romanian girl earlier on, and asked whether they knew each other in Thessaloniki. Julia then said that she was actually Romanian, but there was some Greek blood in her. I left it at that, went to room with her, and had a good session.
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Is the Christina with the black bow-tie listed in your post the one you looked for in Rom?
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Hungarian Elizabeth retired?
[QUOTE=FreeDude;1918738]She is here today, seems to have put on a little weight.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update Free Dude. I'll have to make a quick stop at Oase. The weight gain is not good to hear but hopefully it made her boobs bigger.
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That's interesting because that year several girls I was interested in gathered throughout that year (2014). I initially thought perhaps in the fall they started, but the new additions that year probably got built over the year. On a Sat visit during Automech I lucked out, all of them were present (one of the best LUs I've ever seen). I met all of them plus others that showed from other clubs. That includes Ina, Laura-Livia, Angie (now Adele) -Diaz (ex-Samya), Francesca (ex-World), Beatrice, Helli (Sharks), Micky (Isa, World), and another girl (claimed gypsy. LOL.). That was a result of new girls, and girls gathered from other places for Automech. Week prior, Sugi met, we all know her rep, now with big cellulite ass. Bad vibes with Roxanna who is totally hot, so no session.
Later on that year, Julia met, Lexi met. Lexi was ok, Julia was much better. I decided on Julia due to prospect of a better session then the vibes I was sensing of Ramona. So yeah, optically it was a good year. Service wise Ina was technically good, but couldn't match Julia's enthusiasm. Angie for optics, and session turned out to be good. Micky was sensual, and was the nicest girl. Those were the better service providers of the girls I went with. Stats wise ok, but not high. But, the LU was good around that time. That busy night was when I started noticing the 1 HR upselling for kissing. Picks started dwindling after that peak time.
So based this experience, I decided to do IAA 2015 hoping for similar experience. It didn't live up to what I had hoped and was a mad house (long wait for rooms started early), and opted for Mainhattan, and lucked out with Megan (Sharks), club wasn't that busy. She was the highlight of the trip. Christina was there as well.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1919572]She's taller than that. For sure 160 cm plus.
HB.[/QUOTE]She got to be minimum 165. When referred to as "short blond," not meaning short in height, but her hair was short blond.
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So there has been 3 julia's at Oase. Syz: was any of them a petite blonde at about 1. 50-1. 55 m?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1919824]So there has been 3 julia's at Oase. Syz: was any of them a petite blonde at about 1. 50-1. 55 m?[/QUOTE]No. Was not.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1919827]No. Was not.
HB.[/QUOTE]Must have been the same Julia then.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1919621]Even difficult job for her, no problem to get Sabina Scarlet Johanson single, not the best performer in room, but sweet, friendly, smiling, not the faintest upselling during our 3 or 4 rooms. What a pretty face with her beautiful green eyes and beautiful teeth, as I said to her: You are prettier than the actress even after she gets make up and hair care for hours before camera. Then she smiled, only Megan compete for pretty face for me. I don't understand how I missed Sabina / Ramona at Sharks.[/QUOTE]My best girls at Oase:
And 1: Tatiana. Ru, not the prettiest face, but an exceptional GF with good breathe for 2 hours rooms, until her Christmas present. She may return.
And 2: Ina. Lat, just a sweet candy, so kind, I liked so much speaking Russian with her, I couldn't much with Tatiana because kissing all along. Ina should teach to all FKK girls: Honesty, respect, ethic, kindness and skill to take care of a man. When she was at GT on summer 2013 , she respected rate, 25 € since second half hour, You could have her for 3 hours for 175 €. Wish her the best at home.
And 3: Maria Platinum for our about 10 rooms on 1 month, July 2014 , with our second room in kiosque above swimming pool. Nice girl, I loved her tits, so sexy when she was in the garden.
Some other girls: Roxana for amazing doggy with her vagina lips, Suginella can perform good if she wants, very friendly Elisabet. Cz, thanks for pizza, Lexi met on her third day and losing control, never wanted we repeat, Sabina for her beautiful, smiling face and also friendly.
Bad level for Anya claiming to be Russian. Many girls not woman and skillful enough for me.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1919550]Later, she teamed up with Ramona/Sabina who was a bad influence on her. Once, when I noticed she finished off a customer super fast, I asked her why she did not abide by the full 30 minutes on her timer. She replied that Ramona/Sabina had asked her to finish quickly so that they could continue on their prowls as she (Ramona) was still far from her target $$ for the day.
But when she sees me, she will dump Ramona and concentrate on giving me first class service. [/QUOTE]Like I've stated, met her late fall. As you said, she was indeed paired with Ramona. When they split off, I went for it, and service was good. Luckily I didn't get any rush with her, and what I enjoyed is that she was very smiley and cuddly. Impression of having a good time. Good surprise. Doesn't her eyes squint like Chinese eyes when she smiles? LOL. I thought it was cute feature of hers. She seemed like a very positive girl. Good attitude.
Too bad about whatever influences Ramona had on her. Like I've said, I sense bad vibes with Ramona at the time. Nicole was another girl that really turned me off.
Like Craiova says, she was 27 at the time, and she looked younger. Romies tend to age well IMO. That is, if they have taken care of themselves.
Sleeper provider of the year?
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PL,
I agree with your assessment of Ina and Julia. Ina was far prettier and technically better, but Julia has this special cuteness to me with her slightly oriental eyes. But more importantly, in every one of the countless 2 hour sessions I had with her until mid 2015 when she disappeared, she was always very enthusiastic, always in a good mood, and always found new things to keep me occupied the full 2 hours.
If indeed someone can confirm that she and Carla/Cindy are now regularly at Palace, I might even pay a visit to Palace, after a 5 year hiatus to avoid the sharks, silicones, and the 'Egyptian' pest who is now at Sharks.
About Nicole, I had bad vibes too. But I fell for the optics and wasted €50.
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PL,
Sabina Scarlet Johanson didn't like this job, like many others, most of girls, and when I discovered her at Oase, I missed her at Sharks, this job became very stressing for her, I think she worked less than 6 months at Sharks and after Oase, but when she felt you respect her, she came to you, smiling and was honest for behavior in room. I don't think she did lead a girl with much more paid sex experience than her, I remember on first time I noticed her beauty, she was turning around with another blond, like Roxana and Suginella before, but I didn't even notice the other blond, so maybe this blond just wanted to behave like her because of her shining face beauty. Sometimes girls follow other girls, like Cosmina follows Evita, but Evita has her specialized business and Cosmina is not busy. Some girls are really not clever. I had good weekly rooms with Sabina.
Same with Isabella ex Oase 2013 and Sharks, Rom for 1 week and World 2014, until July, many didn't like her behavior, on first time I discovered her at Sharks on February 2014, she was staying at the bar with Laura / Livia who just looked like a "little misery" with her bad blue make up, close to a natural beauty who doesn't need make up, even at high level, expensive Globe, 4 years after starting this job, Isabella doesn't make up and she is the prettiest at Globe for me, even I love Kate class, but can t resist to Isabella beauty and smile. Sabina and Isabella just felt how I loved them, so they gave me back good behavior when they might not do the same with others, never upselling, only for clubs rate, 100 for 1 hour. Even didn't see her since end of July 2014 until June 2016, never stopped with Isabella and I was so happy to stay for 2 expensive Globe rate hours with her when she came to me and repeated for 1 h30 on my next visit, longer rooms than with Kate, just because, if she has always been good behavior with me, she is now a pretty, top playful GF with high level for sex. I always thought, even prostitutes behave with You from how they feel with You. I just look forward returning to Isabella on my way back from holidays.
You get from what you are and how you behave, knowledge of women and respect help more than money, some are asked for extra money, some never.
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I had a different experience with Ramona / Sabina. I first met her in June 14 at Sharks. She was very new, not more than a couple of weeks I think. Syzy had made a brief mention of her, but no discussion here on her until that time. On that visit, I had missed Roxana who was my special girl till then, but she was vacationing. I somehow latched onto Ramona, and spent several sessions with her, including a threesome with Carla / Cindy, in which Ramona stayed very shy and refused to participate other than giving me a kiss. Anyway, she moved to Oase and I missed her on 2 trips. Think she was working but just not in on the days I visited. Finally met her in Oase in March 15. To be honest, at that time I did not have many fav girls at Oase and went there solely for Ramona. But she had changed. She did recognize me for sure, but was very business like. Off the bat, she pitches a threesome with her blonde friend juicy or Julia or whatever. Thanks but no thanks. Later she came by when I was in Kino and we went to the room. A decent amount of upselling, and demand for a full HR if I wanted to DFK. Now, in sharks I had spent several hrs with her and she to date remains one of the 4 girls I ever DFK'ed in the clubs, so this whole attitude just killed the mood. I felt a bit sad in fact. Anyway, I wrapped up at one HR, and on the way to lockers I said "you have changed a little". I think she knew exactly what I meant, and said "well, it's normal, in this business can't stay innocent forever" but she became pretty quiet. I did not want a repeat session with her on that day anymore, which I always do with my top girls. Lucky for me, I have since found Aylice and Tatiana, who have proved to be just as good. Hope she is doing well now.
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Jnp,
Aylice also "changed", I think You can understand this bad business make girls change, almost when girls suffer in this business. If Sabina started in June 2014, I know why I missed her because I went to World at that time and Oase in July.
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Is Lara and Camille there now?
Hi guys,
Coming back to Oase this weekend, does anyone sawn Lara and Camille there recently? Both are Romanin girls, Camille looklike barbie girl and Camille is more like an Hollywood female movie star from the 30's.
Thanks,
LOL7.
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2 girls from Moldavia
I had great sessions with 2 girls from Moldavia some time ago. They where friends and was looking really great and super young. Can someone tell me if they are still in house?
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Ramona / Sabina
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1920276]I had a different experience with Ramona / Sabina... Hope she is doing well now.[/QUOTE]Just FYR.
(1) June 2014 at Sharks. Ramona: semi-long blonde, be-cup, 160 cm, beautiful Hungarian, looking like Mara. She started our fucking with PSE, loud "Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah", but ended up with silence when she actually reached orgasm. Must must repeat.
(2) Nov. 2014 at Oase. Ramona; Today's plan was to meet Ramona "Scarlet Johannson" or Sabina at Oase five months after my enjoyment with her at Sharks and make her my Oase wife and pick up Annabell, Beatrice or Christina, or all of them. Changed in the locker room, and looked around in the lounge and in the Jacuzzi room. I was so lucky that I found her at the stairs leading to the restaurant. She remembered me, but some of FKK girls say "Yes" whenever they are asked "Did we meet before?" In the room I started massaging her neck, shoulder, back, ass, thighs and legs for 10 min, which was supposed to lead our relation to GFE. Then, followed by caressing, kissing and DATYing. I love a combination of DATYing and fucking, like alternate 1 min DATYing and 30 sec fucking although you have to lick lub gel, which sometimes tastes bitter. I noticed that her climax was close hearing her moaning. Although I tried to refrain her from cumming so soon by stopping sucking and went back to normal caressing, she climbed up to the climax with the first weak peak and the second middle one and the last strongest one by clamping her thighs with my head between them. The second massage was necessary to soften her body. She has not changed at all since we met for the first time, except that she seemed to put a bit of weight on. She is such a beauty and such a *****. We left the room as we promised to meet again after midnight. The other sessions with no-kissing Christina, upselling Suzie, Beatrice and Laura were trifles comparing to the second session with Ramona.
(3) Nov. 2014 at Oase. Ramona; the second session with her started at 2 am. In the room, she first smoked, then Facebooked. OK, she is now my girlfriend at Oase. I experienced BBBJ for the first time today and the first 69 too. Fifteen minutes' missionary gave her thee-wave orgasm with light weight, middle weight and heavy weight wave, clamping her thighs so tightly. While her smoking and texting, I DATYed her with my cooperative fingers, which gave her another lightweight orgasm. Must must repeat.
(4) Nov. 2014 at Oase. Ramona; she told me last Saturday that she would be absent next Sunday and come around 3 pm on Monday. I killed 3 hours making paper roses, which I presented to Andrea and Ramona. We happened to meet at the reception, said "Hello" to each other. I felt it as a really long time before I saw her in the nude in the restaurant. She did not notice me drinking coffee there, got out of there with saying "Sorry, I am busy" to some customers waiting for her there. I caught her in front of the bar, appreciating her priority of me over other customers. She took a rest with coffee and cigarette in the lounge with me. These days she is busy in Facebook in the lounge as well as in the room. I chose two 1. 5-hour sessions. The first session was super impressive. As usual, we started with kissing, caressing, quick fucking and long DATY. My fingers felt three waves of her orgasm, a small wave, a medium wave and the strongest wave, the same pattern as my dick felt yesterday, my dick failed to feel it today though. After fucking, we enjoyed conversation and massage. Yes, I repeated her in 6 hours.
(5) Nov. 2014 at Oase. Ramona; three hours earlier than planned, before midnight, we went to the room. After her small orgasm, not three-wave pattern, we enjoyed imaginary vacation. We stay in a gorgeous hotel in Italy, planning to go sightseeing next day, tired from long flight and we enjoy massage and siesta.
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LU during the summer vacation period
Hi guys,
I am planning to return to Oase end of next week, but I am worried that the LU may not be the best during the summer vacation period. Can anyone who's been there this week give me a recommendation if it's better for me to delay and come later or not?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Leduq;1921652]Hi guys,
I am planning to return to Oase end of next week, but I am worried that the LU may not be the best during the summer vacation period. Can anyone who's been there this week give me a recommendation if it's better for me to delay and come later or not?
Thanks![/QUOTE]If you like girls, come. Otherwise, stay away. There is no best time.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1920276]I had a different experience with Ramona / Sabina. I first met her in June 14 at Sharks. She was very new, not more than a couple of weeks I think. Syzy had made a brief mention of her, but no discussion here on her until that time. On that visit, I had missed Roxana who was my special girl till then, but she was vacationing. I somehow latched onto Ramona, and spent several sessions with her, including a threesome with Carla / Cindy, in which Ramona stayed very shy and refused to participate other than giving me a kiss. Anyway, she moved to Oase and I missed her on 2 trips. Think she was working but just not in on the days I visited. Finally met her in Oase in March 15. To be honest, at that time I did not have many fav girls at Oase and went there solely for Ramona. But she had changed. She did recognize me for sure, but was very business like. Off the bat, she pitches a threesome with her blonde friend juicy or Julia or whatever. Thanks but no thanks. [/QUOTE]I agree with your assessment. She was at her best as a newbie, before she got into threesome mode, and too money oriented. Looking for easy customers for big money, I think. I probably was just not easy enough, but she was great at Sharks.
Some girls' service gets worse. Others get better. Brunette Carla started off as good for me, and only got better and better. That is something I really like, when a girl does her best to get better and better, knowing what the particular customer likes. Obviously a few are so good from the start, that it is hard to improve, but that is very few. Sylvia (Hun) was a dream girl GFE from the first session (2013? But she did not last long.
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Back at Oase on the 3rd and 17th of Sept
Back to Italy for two weeks beach therapy have a 6 hour layover on the way there and an overnight on the way back.
Big question for this trip. Has anyone seen Sina, is she still at Oase? Gorgeous German girl with laces tattooed up the back of her leg; amazing oral skills.
Please let me know.
If anyone wants to hang out on the night of the 17th hmu.
So happy to sneak in a trip to Germany, hate the hobby in the USA.
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I have not visited so many times this year, but did not see Sina ( I believe). Highly rated but not really my spec for looks.
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I've seen her beginning of July. Haven't been there since.
HB.
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Beauties with sweet behavior are dreams
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1922504]I agree with your assessment. She was at her best as a newbie, before she got into threesome mode, and too money oriented. Looking for easy customers for big money, I think. I probably was just not easy enough, but she was great at Sharks.
Some girls' service gets worse...[/QUOTE]So, each one his experience with Sabina, like with any girl. I didn't know Ramona Sharks, but I liked Sabina Oase. On first time I saw her, she was just shining with her beauty, close to a blond shadow I didn't even notice. Sabina noticed my eyes and came back alone a few minutes later, with her wonderful green eyes and smile with beautiful teeth. Then, she never proposed me a threesome and never upsell me, she just said to me on first time she preferred to have 1 hour room to take time to know me, I answered I also preferred 1 hour room to take time to enjoy, so, we only had 1 hour rooms for 100 . She was not the best for kissing, or for sex, she said she could relax and felt confident and I felt she tried to do her best to please me, which is the best behavior for me, more than top performer. When she saw me, she came to me smiling, and I spent enjoyable time with her.
Megan has same behavior with me, also trying to please me, because she feels confident, knowing I never force her for anything, and I don't need, she comes and she gives me.
Girls give more when they feel confident. I would be happy to meet more friendly, smiling, sweet, angel face, like Sabina, or Megan, or Isabella, but Isabella is higher performer with guys she likes, and she could be a superstar if she didn't give her best to only a very few guys.
Same for another girl for 1 year, who was very confident and played my game, until she read I didn't meet only her in Germany, even only her at World.
On the other hand, even reading many good reports about her, since February 2014, I saw her at Sharks where she was not so busy, I never went to EriCarla because just not pretty enough to attract me. I prefer pretty girls who try to do their best, rather than not attractive look high performer.
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[QUOTE=Leduq;1921652]Hi guys,
I am planning to return to Oase end of next week, but I am worried that the LU may not be the best during the summer vacation period. Can anyone who's been there this week give me a recommendation if it's better for me to delay and come later or not?
Thanks![/QUOTE]LU was there several times in the last weeks, LU fluctuates from day to day, difficult to predict something but each time more girls that I can session.
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[QUOTE=Vrsc1962;1922653]
So happy to sneak in a trip to Germany, hate the hobby in the USA.[/QUOTE]Seriously. If more guys here were getting laid with "immigrants / migrant girls", maybe people here wouldn't be so angry.
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Day 3 - Sun 3 July at Oase
I was slightly disappointed with the Oase line-up back in March so had relegated it from a prime Fri or Sat slot to Sunday. Nevertheless, and perhaps because it was the first club I visited I retain a large amount of affinity for Oase. I arrived at around 5 pm and throughout the course of the evening, there were perhaps 50-60 girls so a decent turnout. Quite a lot of familiar faces but I felt the quality had deteriorated even further from March. I like to have a good mix of old favourites and juicy newcomers at Oase. I wasn't expecting to see my all-time favourites Fidan (last seen Sep 15), Jennifer (last seen Mar 15) and Sabina / Ramona Johannson (last seen Sep 14 though I associate her more with Sharks as that's where I saw her first) but even the next tier of my Oase favourites from the last 2 years were missing, namely Ella (cheeky blonde last seen Mar 2015), Daniella who is tall, slim brunette with very small tits but beautiful face who gave me the best cowgirl I have ever encountered (last seen in March 2016) and stunning, busty, Elizabeth from Hungary (last seen March 2016).
None of the girls I had compared with the above mentioned and although all very good looking, there were not too many difficult choices to make which is reflected in the fact that I didn't have a threesome to squeeze in all the girls I wanted.
9. Selena: Young, stunning brunette, good tits and slightly voluptuous but in a puppy fat type of way. Must have been in her early 20's and pale skinned. Reminded me of a younger version of Sanziana from Palace the night before and could have passed for her younger, more innocent looking sister.
I'm afraid her looks far surpassed her services. Started with some foreplay and sucking on her tits. Went for a kiss to be told that was extra (first time I've heard that in Oase though some girls don't) so carried on sucking her tits and moved down to eat her out to be told the same thing. Not a dealbreaker for me and so thought I'd settle for a blow job and banging her. Blowjob was decent enough but every few sucks she was asking if I wanted to cum in her mouth or wanted to go for one hour. We were only 10 minutes in and it was getting annoying so decided to cut my losses and abort the session. I'm in the fortunate position that having a good time is higher on the list of my priorities than sticking to a budget so had no hesitation in aborting mission. The irony of course is that if she had gone slow, I would have been more than happy to have an hour plus and am always happy to finish with CIM. She may have seen a quick fifty as a result. Who knows but if she works on her game she could be very successful as she has the looks. E50.
10. Vika: I had often heard of a Demi Moore lookalike over the years of scanning the ISG board but had never come across her before. On the short side and perhaps late 20's but the resemblance to a younger Demi Moore was uncanny and she is of course a beautiful woman so had no hesitation in taking her to a room. Little in the way of pleasantries, she went straight for my cock and sucked it for all her worth. It was obvious her game plan was to make me cum in her mouth for the extra E50 which I don't mind as it usually means a vigourous blow job which is what I got and she got her prize. Was really nothing more to the session other than as described but I guess we were both happy. E100.
11. Lara: This was the one session which was a throwback to my most memorable times at Oase. Lara is another attractive, young Romanian. Good tits, again slightly on the voluptuous side but as with Selena puppy fat rather than unsightly. At first glance Lara does not have the glamour looks and may be dismissed as having girl-next-door looks but on closer inspection and interaction she grew on me and she has a different type of beauty than most FKK girls which made her even more attractive.
An absolute delight in the room, a very good GFE an it felt you had got lucky with a horny student, lots of foreplay, taking turns pleasuring each other orally taking one another to the brink but holding off, in between also had her in doggy and missionary but ultimately I came with her sucking me off. I came unexpectedly and hurriedly and so ended up in her mouth though she said she would have preferred not to as its not on her menu. Apologised and we enjoyed post-coital bliss to take us to the full hour. If she is around next time I come to Oase, I will definitely make a beeline in her direction. E150.
12. Rosa: Time was passing by and there was nothing really floating my boat. In the end decided to pick up a blonde for some variety and Rosa seemed the best of the bunch. Seemed natural looking, probably in her early 30's or maybe just a little tired looking but nevertheless an attractive woman with a nice, slim figure, dainty, pert nose and hair tied up which I like. Had little in the tank so just told Rosa to do her best to get me off and I didn't mind CIM. She rose to the challenge and delivered a very good blowjob, coming from different angles and speeds and fully deserved her prize! E100.
Overall, I was disappointed with the quality at Oase. It has definitely declined over my last few visits as compared to 2013-2015 when it merited at least 2 days per visit which was needed to get through all the girls I fancied. I hope it is just a temporary blip and things pick up as I otherwise like the lay-out and have many great memories. It is always the one club I recommend to friends for the best FKK experience but I may need to reconsider that advice. When I mention to girls at other clubs that Oase is my favorite they criticise it for hygiene and don't like the fact you put a towel down rather than fresh sheets. It maybe a small thing to rectify which would help attract better looking girls which ultimately is the main factor for us customers? Nevertheless, it will remain on my itinerary for my next trip.
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I agree
[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;1923365]Seriously. If more guys here were getting laid with "immigrants / migrant girls", maybe people here wouldn't be so angry.[/QUOTE]Yep. Nothing more to be said, I fully agree.
I genuinely believe that Americas fixation with firearms is on account of how sexually repressed they are.
I desperately looked for work in EU for 18 months after my role in Italy was terminated (by a sexually repressed and angry American CEO of an American company). Unfortunately at that point I had to return here, genuinely hate it. Love being American, hate living in America. Go figure.
They should have an FKK next to every gun shop with an obligation to prove you've gotten properly laid before allowing you to buy a firearm; bet most guys would decide that they prefer shooting bullets out of their peckers a lot more than out of a firearm!
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Oase review
So, first was Sharks. Was considering yesterday to be a tourist day, but I thought better of it and reaffirmed myself to the good cause of hedonistic pleasures. And off to Oase I was. Not going to give a play by play, but only a comparison with Sharks which of the two I prefer. Girls are slightly more engaging at sharks, sharks had desert / fruits, more convenient location for train commuters, its 10 euro less for entrance, and. Most importantly. There wasn't a constant odor of horse shit at Sharks. 😶 Oase must have a few horses as nayyyyybors and, understandably, its not really pleasant. Does it render oase a loss? Obviously not. But if I am going to relax poolside between sessions I really rather the better air. Legit concerns that speak to the general experience and preference between the two. That being said, the real concern being girls, I was more than happy at both. Yesterday at oase, 2 sessions, both Romanians. Great looks and fun service.
What to do today? Repeat at sharks? Open to other suggestions but certainly don't want to someplace with any smaller selection than these two places.
Happy mongering.
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Did you have 50€ sessions or longer sessions? Were DFK included? Thanks.
HB.
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Oase entry is not 70 anymore? Vs 65 at Sharks, but 50 on Wednesday, with usually good casting, because girls know many locals come.
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Follow up
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1923613]Did you have 50 sessions or longer sessions? Were DFK included? Thanks.
HB.[/QUOTE]50 Euro sessions. Not really looking for or requesting DFK. I've been searching for some rougher action but no such luck yet. The research continues!
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[QUOTE=BigBossman;1923606]What to do today? Repeat at sharks? Open to other suggestions but certainly don't want to someplace with any smaller selection than these two places.[/QUOTE]The obvious answer is to stick with Oase and Sharks when in Frankfurt (who have the largest selections). Many punters (both vets and newcomers) do nothing else.
For variation you can try out World or Mainhattan (smaller selections but different qualities).
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[QUOTE=Vrsc1962;1923448]Yep. Nothing more to be said, I fully agree.
I genuinely believe that Americas fixation with firearms is on account of how sexually repressed they are.
I desperately looked for work in EU for 18 months after my role in Italy was terminated (by a sexually repressed and angry American CEO of an American company). Unfortunately at that point I had to return here, genuinely hate it. Love being American, hate living in America. Go figure.
They should have an FKK next to every gun shop with an obligation to prove you've gotten properly laid before allowing you to buy a firearm; bet most guys would decide that they prefer shooting bullets out of their peckers a lot more than out of a firearm![/QUOTE]Heard this often, Superpower of the world but, still a repressive society when it comes to Sex. Sex is still a taboo word in America.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1923615]Oase entry is not 70 anymore? Vs 65 at Sharks, but 50 on Wednesday, with usually good casting, because girls know many locals come.[/QUOTE]AFAIK Oase entry is still 70 with the option to buy 6 entries for the price of 4.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1923651]The obvious answer is to stick with Oase and Sharks when in Frankfurt (who have the largest selections). Many punters (both vets and newcomers) do nothing else.
For variation you can try out World or Mainhattan (smaller selections but different qualities).[/QUOTE]Only been World once one year ago. Next month will be in Frankfurt. Will have plenty time. So Sharks and Oase will be my top choices? How's the turnout for both clubs during weekdays? Over 50?
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1923730]AFAIK Oase entry is still 70 with the option to buy 6 entries for the price of 4.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yep, Oase entry is still 70.
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[QUOTE=BigBossman;1923859]Yep, Oase entry is still 70.[/QUOTE]So, only 5€ more than Sharks, out of happy hours, not 10, reason why I asked if Oase is still at 70, or 75, when Sharks is 65.
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[QUOTE=JennyKk;1923831]Only been World once one year ago. Next month will be in Frankfurt. Will have plenty time. So Sharks and Oase will be my top choices? How's the turnout for both clubs during weekdays? Over 50?[/QUOTE]Skark will be very busy could be 4 men for 1 woman, Oase if you start early morning relax atmosphere with probably more women than man.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1923907]Skark will be very busy could be 4 men for 1 woman, Oase if you start early morning relax atmosphere with probably more women than man.[/QUOTE]Except on Wednesday because of discount entry 50 which attract locals, but from Monday to Friday afternoon, Sharks is quite empty for guys. Many girls start around 2/3 pm and only a few guys attending. At Oase, prettiest girls seem to start later, around 5/6 pm. Clubs are not crowded on week days.
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[QUOTE=JennyKk;1923831]Only been World once one year ago. Next month will be in Frankfurt. Will have plenty time. So Sharks and Oase will be my top choices? How's the turnout for both clubs during weekdays? Over 50?[/QUOTE]I have no idea if Oase and Sharks should be your top choices. You are not telling us what you are looking for. My response was to a monger who asked for the biggest line-up.
My top choice this summer has been World (tied with Oase). But who cares. Go visit each club and see for yourself. Be explorative and have some fun. As you say, you have plenty of time. Don't take everything that is written on a forum so seriously.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1923907] Oase if you start early morning relax atmosphere with probably more women than man.[/QUOTE]With a lot of upsell for DFK, DATY and so on. LOL!
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924004]With a lot of upsell for DFK, DATY and so on. LOL![/QUOTE]Why like so in morning hours?
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1924034]Why like so in morning hours?[/QUOTE]I don't think upselling depends too much on the time of the day you go. I was just saying in general expect a good amount of upselling when it comes to OASE based on current scene.
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Sorry guys for asking this stupid question, but I can only have one night in Frankfurt.
Which one should I go? Oase or Sharks? Or somethings else?
Looking for GFE, and that's all.
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1923999]I have no idea if Oase and Sharks should be your top choices. You are not telling us what you are looking for. My response was to a monger who asked for the biggest line-up.
My top choice this summer has been World (tied with Oase). But who cares. Go visit each club and see for yourself. Be explorative and have some fun. As you say, you have plenty of time. Don't take everything that is written on a forum so seriously.[/QUOTE]Now DFK is an add-on for all girls? Both Shark and Oase? I remembered the standard session included DFK during my last trip.
The girl I'm looking for curve girls who give good service. I don't mind give extra for CIM or Greek but for ZK? Really? BTW, which club is better for standard service, with less up sell for ZK?
Last time when I was in World, it was Easter, maybe that affect the LU?
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[QUOTE=RifleMan;1924179]Sorry guys for asking this stupid question, but I can only have one night in Frankfurt.
Which one should I go? Oase or Sharks? Or somethings else?
Looking for GFE, and that's all.
Cheers![/QUOTE]You can find the mythical "GFE" you seek at either Oase or Sharks. It doesn't matter which club you visit. What matters is your own ability to work the line-up that happens to be on offer the night you visit, and can you find the right girl for your special taste. Both clubs offer extensive line ups, with lots of options, the full gambit of possibilities: great GFE providers to complete rip-off / upsell artists. That's right: both Sharks and Oase have a huge variety girls, differing in background, experience and service-orientation, working on any given day/night. Your ability to find the session you want, whatever that is, depends only on your skill and luck to encounter the right girl and cultivate the proper chemistry to achieve your session goals. That's it.
Warning: August is NOT the ideal time to visit any club. The line-ups at all clubs will improve significantly in Septemeber, when both male guest and female worker holidays finish, and the Messe calender kicks into it's Autumn season.
Good times lie ahead, for sure.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924151]I don't think upselling depends too much on the time of the day you go.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct statement. The chance of encountering upselling in the the room depends less on time of day or which club, any club, you visit, and more on which girl you happen to select on the day, night of your visit to whatever club. Proper vetting and and an enhanced "radar" or "GFE instinct" employed "on the couch"/ pre-Zimmer can more often than not enable you to avoid "Up-sell girls" and zero in on the girls that will give you what you want and need. At least that is my experience.
In other words: On the rare occasion that I encounter upselling in the Zimmer these days, and I thank my lucky stars that I don't get it as often some of guys seem to judge from recent posts, I usually blame myself, not the club, for electing to go with a "bad apple". I mean, I usually believe it is my own fault in failing to choose and interview girls correctly, a temporary lack of judgment , an FKK double fault, if you will.
However: All have their opinions and stories to tell, no doubt.
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Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Palace.
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.
General rule: girls get bolder in the tourist clubs (that are generally closer to the city). I'd say Palace (Frankfurt), Paradise (Stuttgart), Dolce Vita (Dusseldorf) are the sharkiest three in their respective areas.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1923727]Heard this often, Superpower of the world but, still a repressive society when it comes to Sex. Sex is still a taboo word in America.[/QUOTE]Sex is a taboo nearly everywhere.
I don't think USA are the worst. By far. And from France I would say we are now equal, if not worse.
And don't think Germany is all sex friendly. The tendancy is clearly negative.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1924246]Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.[/QUOTE]Hmm when I compare same optic and same best service level I can't see any significant difference between these clubs.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1924246]Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Palace.
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.
General rule: girls get bolder in the tourist clubs (that are generally closer to the city). I'd say Palace (Frankfurt), Paradise (Stuttgart), Dolce Vita (Dusseldorf) are the sharkiest three in their respective areas.[/QUOTE]Never been to world, how are line up there comparison to Oase, are LU pretty? Many German girls? Or it is all Ro?
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1924270]Never been to world, how are line up there comparison to Oase, are LU pretty? Many German girls? Or it is all Ro?[/QUOTE]If you don't like Romanian girls, don t go to FKK. 90% Romanians in FRA, at World, Sharks, Mainhattan and I think same at Oase. You have some Germans as fat Pia and Kati, Hungarians at Sharks. Go to GT Bruggen if You only want Germans and if You are not dark skin. Even at Globe Zurich which is higher level than German FKK, most are Romanian, even at Aphrodisia in Zurich center, for 280 CHF, girls are Romanian.
FKK are Romanian villages and I m happy to see prettier and sweeter girls than most of Germans, there.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1924246]Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Palace.
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.
General rule: girls get bolder in the tourist clubs (that are generally closer to the city). I'd say Palace (Frankfurt), Paradise (Stuttgart), Dolce Vita (Dusseldorf) are the sharkiest three in their respective areas.[/QUOTE]Not a very regular, but no upsell for me at Mainhattan with Suzi. Cz, my jolie Sara, Sofia, only Jasmin tried and stayed sitting. Not more than at World or Sharks.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1924246]Based on upsell, rip-off-artists percentage per capita, I'd rank from worst to safest in following order:
Palace.
Oase / Mainhattan.
Sharks.
World.
[/QUOTE]Looks about right to me. Oase always had more upsell girls than Sharks (at least since 2008 when I started attending Oase a bit more often) and there was a lot less at World. Still the odd girl asking for a Champangne or bubbly. LOL
For aggressive girls approaching it is a bit different and highly dependent on individual aggressive girls, even some aggressive girls experienced at World since my very first visit, but Palace and Mainhatten were where I got hassled by the highest number of girls in the lounge area. More difficult to relax in these circumstances. Sharks has the advantage of being so spacious. Some clubs have relax rooms, which can be handy. I used the relax room a lot at Palace, but even there, girls would come and bother me (a few years back).
The main method to avoid upsell, is to take regular girls, so that they know what you want already most likely.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1924415] (a few years back).[/QUOTE]As you say a few years back. It would be more useful to get actual Intel.
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Like people are saying here in terms of Upselling World is still the lowest. I wonder when compared to Sharks in Line Up how does World fair? How is the Line Up of Girls in World when compared to say Sharks or OASE?
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1924447]As you say a few years back. It would be more useful to get actual Intel.[/QUOTE]If "actual intel" would be more useful, why bother cluttering up this thread with non-useful criticisms? (admittedly, like I am now). If you don't want to be bothered reading Syz's posts, you can just add Syz to your ignore list (instead of criticizing the content of his contributions).
I normally wouldn't bother cluttering up the Oase thread with this sort of post, but it just struck me as really odd that someone would criticize Syz in this way when he does post plenty of useful "actual intel," namely his attendance lists which many find immensely useful (among other useful tidbits from time to time).
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924456]Like people are saying here in terms of Upselling World is still the lowest. I wonder when compared to Sharks in Line Up how does World fair? How is the Line Up of Girls in World when compared to say Sharks or OASE?[/QUOTE]But how are the LU there at world? Young and beautiful or silicone with full of tattoo and aged?
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First of all, it is correct that Syz's post is no Intel. He's talking about a visit years ago which is pointless.
For some reason Craiova is fixated on Manhattan like Ortos is fixated on Oase. Both get very defensive about opinions against their clubs, which is obvious. When I look for perspective on those clubs, they would be at the bottom of the list to be trustable.
Do I think service level and upselling level at Oases is similar to years ago? No. Level of upselling has gotten much higher than what it used to be. Pretty much closer to on part with Palace now.
Also, I disagree with Syz opinion about Manhattan 3 years ago. It was a better club back then. Besides LU lists, Syz opinions aren't worth a dime. There are members I take more serious when it comes to opinions. People that has been to more clubs and up to date has more perspective than those only experiences 1 or 2.
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September / October
So Sorry for the silly question, but is it cold to use the pool / outdoor area in during the last week of September?
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1924462]But how are the LU there at world? Young and beautiful or silicone with full of tattoo and aged?[/QUOTE]I have heard there are more natural blonde girls (German Girls) in World then any of the big four Frankfurt FKK's.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1924382]Not a very regular, but no upsell for me at Mainhattan with Suzi. Cz, my jolie Sara, Sofia, only Jasmin tried and stayed sitting. Not more than at World or Sharks.[/QUOTE]World, Sharks, Palace positions were clear and easy for me to rank. At first, I was going to put Mainhattan ahead of Oase. Finally, I decided on writing that they were at the same level of sharkiness. With Mainhattan, the money locker is near reception. I think girls are less likely to cause trouble.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1924270]Never been to world, how are line up there comparison to Oase, are LU pretty? Many German girls? Or it is all Ro?[/QUOTE]LU quality is a matter of taste, World has usually less girls than Shark or Oase but the atmosphere is different, during summer the outside garden is just great and for me at least the girl are not as aggressive as in other places.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924584]I have heard there are more natural blonde girls (German Girls) in World then any of the big four Frankfurt FKK's.[/QUOTE]Hmmm if LU there are more younger Germans, then I want to go there, but I also heard a lot of silicone and tattoo girls there. But less upsell there is good thing.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1924490]For some reason Craiova is fixated on Manhattan like Ortos is fixated on Oase... When I look for perspective on those clubs, they would be at the bottom of the list to be trustable.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1924490]Syz opinions aren't worth a dime. There are members I take more serious when it comes to opinions.[/QUOTE] :rolleyes:
Frankly these frequent jealous attacks against Senior Members are becoming tiresome and are doing very little for whatever credibility you have on this Board. The guys that you criticize have contributed much to this forum and express their opinions in a literate and logical manner, in good English and without colloquialism. At no time do they demand that their opinion be taken as gospel or the last word on any matter. They offer their opinions based on vast experience of FKK and Sauna clubs in Germany. Some have decided to remain loyal to particular clubs and that is their right and their truth and it is up to the membership to agree or disagree. If I were you, I would concentrate on your own reports and contributions to this Board and refrain from petty attacks on Senior Members who have contributed much down through many years. I wish you well and I wish you a little piece of common sense about these matters.
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[QUOTE=Neworlean;1924532]So Sorry for the silly question, but is it cold to use the pool / outdoor area in during the last week of September?[/QUOTE]I would say bit cold to swim for long time in last week of September, can be done.
But Sauna is kinda outside of main building at Oase, so after sauna, take quick hot shower to wipe off sweat then while your body is still hot jump into swimming pool that is just 25 seconds walking distance from sauna, that maybe nice swim for 5 min or so.
German summer is not that hot beside end of July to August month being the hottest with my experience. Last August was crazy hot in Frankfurt, but that summer was unusually hot summer like summers for recent years actually.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924584]I have heard there are more natural blonde girls (German Girls) in World then any of the big four Frankfurt FKK's.[/QUOTE]Did you see these blond German girls? I never saw them for my many visits at World on June and July. Amira was blond, but Romanian.
Blond angel Sandra. De at Sharks. Blond Lena. De?
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1924490]First of all, it is correct that Syz's post is no Intel. He's talking about a visit years ago which is pointless.
For some reason Craiova is fixated on Manhattan like Ortos is fixated on Oase. Both get very defensive about opinions against their clubs, which is obvious. When I look for perspective on those clubs, they would be at the bottom of the list to be trustable.
Do I think service level and upselling level at Oases is similar to years ago? No. Level of upselling has gotten much higher than what it used to be. Pretty much closer to on part with Palace now.
Also, I disagree with Syz opinion about Manhattan 3 years ago. It was a better club back then. Besides LU lists, Syz opinions aren't worth a dime. There are members I take more serious when it comes to opinions. People that has been to more clubs and up to date has more perspective than those only experiences 1 or 2.[/QUOTE]Because you are for me, even I don't know you, one of the most interesting and reliable about your writings about girls. I'm not interested to read posts: I fucked her in all her holes. So, you don't need to play this game, Yes Craiova enjoys Mainhattan, yes Syzy enjoys Oase, as You like GT, and as I would follow my girls in any club, even much more expensive. Each one his tastes and subjective opinions and experiences. So many little poor jealous guys on this forum, like on french language forum, so, just keep on writing your interesting posts about your girls met.
To Mac, also no upsell in room for me at Mainhattan, for me Mainhattan, World and Sharks are same level for girls behavior and services, I may not have the face to be upsell? My only problem at Mainhattan, is to find pretty girls.
I agree with Syzy abut how work many girls at Oase: Roxana, Suginella, Elisabet. Hu, for my last experiences. If you have 1 hour room, which is my standard to have enough time to take all my time to play and enjoy a girl, then you can have decent room, even they will ask you: do you want to finish in my mouth? To get fast 50 more. My problem at Oase is to find girls who have a real woman behavior, like Kate, or Madi World. But I don't forget how I loved sexy Maria Platinum on July 2014 , and my 2 exceptional GF, Ina. Lat and Tatiana. Ru, with more than 1 hour spent only to DFK, caressing and foreplaying with Tatiana, before starting BJ and sex, on this day, I decided: no limit for time. I also miss my 2 holes in the garden, even I found my pink teddy bear ball, to play now at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924584]I have heard there are more natural blonde girls (German Girls) in World then any of the big four Frankfurt FKK's.[/QUOTE]Who told you? Right now I think there is ONE German milfy type girl at World.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1924266]Hmm when I compare same optic and same best service level I can't see any significant difference between these clubs.[/QUOTE]You've been proclaiming that over and over againg. And I can just repeat over and over again: For a 50 EUR standard session for a non-regular McAdonis' ranking is spot on.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1924856]Who told you? Right now I think there is ONE German milfy type girl at World.
HB.[/QUOTE]Had heard that from a Taxi Driver in Frankfurt. Not just one but two. I know the information source is not very trustable but since two taxi driver said so, thought might be the case.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1924675]:rolleyes:
Frankly these frequent jealous attacks against Senior Members are becoming tiresome and are doing very little for whatever credibility you have on this Board. The guys that you criticize have contributed much to this forum and express their opinions in a literate and logical manner, in good English and without colloquialism. At no time do they demand that their opinion be taken as gospel or the last word on any matter. They offer their opinions based on vast experience of FKK and Sauna clubs in Germany. Some have decided to remain loyal to particular clubs and that is their right and their truth and it is up to the membership to agree or disagree. If I were you, I would concentrate on your own reports and contributions to this Board and refrain from petty attacks on Senior Members who have contributed much down through many years. I wish you well and I wish you a little piece of common sense about these matters.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. It seems that to bother writing an intelligible report describing one's subjective experiences is tantamount to inviting a dissing and verbal abuse.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924872]Had heard that from a Taxi Driver in Frankfurt. Not just one but two. I know the information source is not very trustable but since two taxi driver said so, thought might be the case.[/QUOTE]If you want blonde Germans do not go to World. Sorry to disappoint.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1924873]Totally agree. It seems that to bother writing an intelligible report describing one's subjective experiences is tantamount to inviting a dissing and verbal abuse.[/QUOTE]I also completely agree that, because of only one or two prominent "board pests," but esp one particular Trump-like poster (whose only motivation seems to be to hurl ignorant insults at people who are just trying to uphold the good standards and traditions of this board), it has become really problematic to make helpful reports or other comments these days. And most of what is hurled at us is complete nonsense and has no basis in fact. For example, he made the ignorant comment and accusation that none of my reports contain names of girls. Wtf? I believe EVERY single report I've ever made contains lots of details about whom I write, not least of which are the names.
In his most recent "waste of bandwidth" I was accused of being "fixated" on Oase. Again, not fact at all, although how on earth he (or anybody else here) would know what or what not I am fixated on is a mystery, since his only knowledge of me is from warped interpretations of what I post here. I have to laugh at this, almost like he's a school child bully in 5th grade (sound like Trump?) making challenges about matters he knows nothing. Funny he should proclaim I'm obsessed with Oase when: During my most recent trip to Frankfurt over the month of June, I made 18 visits to FKK clubs sticking to Sharks and Oase. I visited Sharks twelve times (I bought and used 2 x 355 visit cards) and Oase six times (1 x 240 visit cards).
So in the end, it is best to go with the age-old wisdom: Just ignore the Troll. In the absence of any type of active board moderation here, what else can one due.
I would just add that I had started writing extensive reports about my many visits to Sharks, but I lost appetite to write these when I (and others) get attacked for no good reason. Too bad there can be no control here, because one wonders how many other good reports and posts we are / will miss due to this pest pissing in our pool.
Just my opinion. I never insist anybody agree with everything I write, just to act respectful when expressing a divergent opinion.
Go get'them Auslander! .
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924584]I have heard there are more natural blonde girls (German Girls) in World then any of the big four Frankfurt FKK's.[/QUOTE]I am more than a regular at world visited many hundred time in the last 10 years, for me very few blond German girls there but many adorable Romanian girls and some are also blond.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1924856]Who told you? Right now I think there is ONE German milfy type girl at World.
HB.[/QUOTE]If we believe taxi drivers now, soon we will believe Mercedes fish. This blond MILF is too massive for me, didn't know she is German. Seems quite busy.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1924902] I visited Sharks twelve times (I bought and used 2 x 355 visit cards) and Oase six times (1 x 240 visit cards).
[/QUOTE]Sorry, I have to correct my typo: I bought 2 x 325 visit cards at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1924902]I would just add that I had started writing extensive reports about my many visits to Sharks, but I lost appetite to write these when I (and others) get attacked for no good reason. Too bad there can be no control here, because one wonders how many other good reports and posts we are / will miss due to this pest pissing in our pool.[/QUOTE]I am really disappointed to read that you were unable to finish your reports on Sharks. This Board can never get enough of the good information and quality of writing which a very few members (which includes yourself) can only provide. I hope you will reconsider and finish these reports in the not too distant future. I for one look forward to reading.
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Can I take this opportunity to encourage other Senior Members to put good (or excellent) reports in the Reports of Distinction thread (should this report be about FKK Oase or any other FKK or Sauna Club), as this is a great way to reward guys who take the time and trouble to behave properly and actually offer good information back to the Board and to their fellow members. It is also a great way to encourage good behavior and etiquette on this Board and to reward the quality of the content of a particular Members reports. Otherwise, it seems to me, you will get individuals constantly spamming the Board, either because the are board at home or because they think that if they can get a post count measured in the thousands, they appear to be some sort of expert in matters associated with FKK and Sauna Clubs. However, those with any sense know that it is about the quality of the content of an individual members reports and not about quantity. This Board has a great tradition to uphold and there are some great stalwarts of this forum who are trying very hard to maintain those traditions. So I encourage all members to put great reports in the RoD thread and prevent this Germany. FKK Clubs from degenerating any further.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1924902]
I would just add that I had started writing extensive reports about my many visits to Sharks, but I lost appetite to write these when I (and others) get attacked for no good reason. .[/QUOTE]Criticism (or for that matter praise) should only affect you if it is coming from someone that you care about (employer, family member, significant other, close friends, hot women). Why seek approval / disapproval from random people on the Internet whom you've never met?
I'd classify an attack as something that can impact your quality of life. For instance, spreading a nasty rumor in FKK land that resulted in you getting rejections from WGs. Or an attempt to hurt you physically, professionally, socially, or financially.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1925032]Criticism (or for that matter praise) should only affect you if it is coming from someone that you care about (employer, family member, significant other, close friends, hot women). Why seek approval / disapproval from random people on the Internet whom you've never met?
[/QUOTE]All of what you say is correct, in one context at least. But here's another perspective:
I work long hours now, in a very hot and humid climate. I get tired, sometimes exhausted. So I use interacting on this board, amongst others, as a way to relax and unwind. Part of that process is to compose reports, and it takes effort and time, which can be enjoyable. It can be relaxing and beneficial to contribute constructively, as most certainly do. But when the atmosphere here gets polluted with nasty, pointless posts (not just to me, but others as well) and it degenerates into personal attacks that are not based on any facts or reason, you start to loose your lust and appetite to put in the time and effort to compose these reports. You get disgusted, like expecting to dive into a clean pool just to find that some wanker is pissing in it. It used to be fun, but now it becomes boring to non-enjoyable.
So I just left my half-written Sharks report unfinished because I lost enjoyment to write reports, for the time being at least. That's all, it's not such a big deal really.
Thanks for your comments, but nobody needs a lecture about seeking approval from the Internet. That's only for those that take this stuff, or themselves, so seriously. Believe me when I say, I do not. :)
But look: This whole thing is a complete distraction. Who really cares about this crap anyway? Right? So let's put this whole discussion to bed, and turn back to what this thread is supposed to be about: Girls and action at BHH.
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I'd like to suggest yet again that the Oase thread be used for Oase topics, and the General or Lounge threads be used for topics that are not specific to a single FKK.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1924984]Can I take this opportunity to encourage other Senior Members to put good (or excellent) reports in the Reports of Distinction thread (should this report be about FKK Oase or any other FKK or Sauna Club), as this is a great way to reward guys who take the time and trouble to behave properly and actually offer good information back to the Board and to their fellow members. It is also a great way to encourage good behavior and etiquette on this Board and to reward the quality of the content of a particular Members reports. Otherwise, it seems to me, you will get individuals constantly spamming the Board, either because the are board at home or because they think that if they can get a post count measured in the thousands, they appear to be some sort of expert in matters associated with FKK and Sauna Clubs. However, those with any sense know that it is about the quality of the content of an individual members reports and not about quantity. This Board has a great tradition to uphold and there are some great stalwarts of this forum who are trying very hard to maintain those traditions. So I encourage all members to put great reports in the RoD thread and prevent this Germany. FKK Clubs from degenerating any further.[/QUOTE]Most of the time I don't write reports about what happen with me in the room: I believe that the girls are human being and therefor have the right not to act mechanically the same way with each customer, there is also a big part of chemistry. I have great experiences with girls that some of you report very negatively. If the session is bad may be we are also responsible, I never complain with the girl I just ask myself if I was good enough or listening enough to her that she feels well with me and as a result give me good time. Sexe is the most important thing for me and each date is different but I always try to make the best of it even the girl is not in a good day and I try also to prefer quality vs quantity, no need to have 5 girls or even more per day, prefer from far 2 positive dates. Sexe is a lottery we can t always win, and porn movies are not the reality of the life even in FKK.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;1924872]Had heard that from a Taxi Driver in Frankfurt. Not just one but two. I know the information source is not very trustable but since two taxi driver said so, thought might be the case.[/QUOTE]Maybe these Frankfurt taxi drivers just want your money. Of the Hessen big 5, World is the farthest way. Therefore it is the most expensive fare.
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I was able to visit FKK Oase on a Saturday in late July, my very first visit to there and only my second to an FKK at all. The old hands in this thread have done a great job in providing information and answering questions, so there's not much for me to add. My semi-unique two cents: being black and only speaking English is not a problem at *all*. If anything, I felt they were more aggressive in seeking me out. One pair of girls I passed by a few times would always grin and call out "chocolate! Then go for a light, playful pinch.
If you're new to FKKs and are on the fence, just jump on in! And again: thanks, experts.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1924857]You've been proclaiming that over and over againg. And I can just repeat over and over again: For a 50 EUR standard session for a non-regular McAdonis' ranking is spot on.
HB.[/QUOTE]But you have not been a non-regular for ages! LOL.
Just kidding. I know you these things more than most people and for sure, more than me.
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Extremely poor Saturday night at Oase.
I arrived at midnight and there were less than 40 girls, nearly all were terrible.
I sessioned with Amelia. Skinny Romanian, 168 cm. Short brunette hair. Mechanical session. Light kissing, does not like intense DATY. Mechanical cowgirl with little passion during missionary. She does not perform ball licking and said that she does not to that for anyone. She could tell that I was not enjoying the session and asked what was wrong. I told her honestly that she did not give the passionate session that I liked. She tried to explain that girls do not have sex like wives at this club, obviously a lie. I left after 20 minutes and she was not at all happy with me. Oh well.
Luckily, Ellie was there to save the night, 168 cm dark brunette, almost black hair. Voluptuous, tight body with large augmented 'C' cups and probably Botox in her lips. I previously described her as an Aletta Ocean look-alike. She is relatively new, previously from Globe. She started in July but left for Romania for 2 weeks and has only been back for a week. I usually assume that girls who look as perfect and augmented as her give poor sessions; and while she is not the most passionate performer, this session being my second with her, she was definitely better. She is very talkative and is truly a nice girl. She did haggle for upsell on our first visit but not this time. She gives an above average blowjob, nothing special but does performs ball licking. She is responsive to DATY, does not like like hard sex, and gives good eye contact during missionary. I am not a frequent visitor to Oase, but would go back just for her.
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Amelia or Amilia
[QUOTE=Takedown;1925117]...I sessioned with Amelia. Skinny Romanian, 168 cm. Short brunette hair. Mechanical session. Light kissing, does not like intense DATY. Mechanical cowgirl with little passion during missionary. She does not perform ball licking and said that she does not to that for anyone. She could tell that I was not enjoying the session and asked what was wrong. I told her honestly that she did not give the passionate session that I liked. She tried to explain that girls do not have sex like wives at this club, obviously a lie. I left after 20 minutes and she was not at all happy with me. Oh well...[/QUOTE]My previous report on Amilia:
(1) May14,2016 2305-2350 (100 E) excluding 15 min as tip: long brown hair, little bit tanned, 160 cm pretty, self-proclaimed German having a lot of Romanian friends, studying law here, 1 month at Oase. During DATY she put her ankles at one time and her hands at other times on my head to press my lips on her pussy, almost suffocating me, leading her to big O. During missionary nothing happened, because more than one O would have kept her faint until 5 am, costing me 500 E according to her. She demanded a lot of things as a joke, like birthday present of 50 E, her big O for 50 E, her chewed gum for 5 E, which I enjoyed to chew. Repeat.
(2) May 16,2016 2230-2325 (100 E): second time with her in this Oase tour. She refused my DATY. Her first order was my massage on her for long time, then missionary after short BBBJ, which I gave up due to my dick's condition. While pillow talk, I started finger-job on her pussy, then she replaced it with her hand, which brought her to her O. I was a kind of observer during her masturbation, just kissing and caressing her tits and tummy. She liked to threaten me by demanding 200 E for her birthday present, 100 E for special VIP room charge, any money for any purpose. Such a pussy cat. Repeat.
Am wondering if your Amelia is the same as my Amilia.
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[QUOTE=YamaYama0519;1925147]My previous report on Amilia:
(1) May14,2016 2305-2350 (100 E) excluding 15 min as tip: long brown hair, little bit tanned, 160 cm pretty, self-proclaimed German having a lot of Romanian friends, studying law here, 1 month at Oase. During DATY she put her ankles at one time and her hands at other times on my head to press my lips on her pussy, almost suffocating me, leading her to big O. During missionary nothing happened, because more than one O would have kept her faint until 5 am, costing me 500 E according to her. She demanded a lot of things as a joke, like birthday present of 50 E, her big O for 50 E, her chewed gum for 5 E, which I enjoyed to chew. Repeat.
(2) May 16,2016 2230-2325 (100 E): second time with her in this Oase tour. She refused my DATY. Her first order was my massage on her for long time, then missionary after short BBBJ, which I gave up due to my dick's condition. While pillow talk, I started finger-job on her pussy, then she replaced it with her hand, which brought her to her O. I was a kind of observer during her masturbation, just kissing and caressing her tits and tummy. She liked to threaten me by demanding 200 E for her birthday present, 100 E for special VIP room charge, any money for any purpose. Such a pussy cat. Repeat.
Am wondering if your Amelia is the same as my Amilia.[/QUOTE]They sound like different girls. "Amelia" is much taller than 160 and cannot pass as German at all. This one also says that she has been there 2 years. Has some letters tattoo'd on her neck.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1925102]But you have not been a non-regular for ages! LOL.
[/QUOTE]Outside Hessen I am a non-regular.
HB.
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Kliens. Great that you realised that Romanians use "chocolate" as a friendly term. It is very widespread and positive. Glad you had a good time.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1925117]Extremely poor Saturday night at Oase.
I arrived at midnight and there were less than 40 girls, nearly all were terrible.
I sessioned with Amelia. Skinny Romanian, 168 cm. Short brunette hair. Mechanical session. Light kissing, does not like intense DATY. Mechanical cowgirl with little passion during missionary. She does not perform ball licking and said that she does not to that for anyone. She could tell that I was not enjoying the session and asked what was wrong. I told her honestly that she did not give the passionate session that I liked. She tried to explain that girls do not have sex like wives at this club, obviously a lie. I left after 20 minutes and she was not at all happy with me. Oh well.
Luckily, Ellie was there to save the night, 168 cm dark brunette, almost black hair. Voluptuous, tight body with large augmented 'C' cups and probably Botox in her lips. I previously described her as an Aletta Ocean look-alike. She is relatively new, previously from Globe. She started in July but left for Romania for 2 weeks and has only been back for a week. I usually assume that girls who look as perfect and augmented as her give poor sessions; and while she is not the most passionate performer, this session being my second with her, she was definitely better. She is very talkative and is truly a nice girl. She did haggle for upsell on our first visit but not this time. She gives an above average blowjob, nothing special but does performs ball licking. She is responsive to DATY, does not like like hard sex, and gives good eye contact during missionary. I am not a frequent visitor to Oase, but would go back just for her.[/QUOTE]I stopped to arrive so late to the FKK fro mainly 2 reasons, too many drunk guys around and I think that the girls are mostly tired and are trying to get short sleeps to recover. If possible try to go there just after opening around 11 am.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1925200]Outside Hessen I am a non-regular.
HB.[/QUOTE]And at Mainhattan? For me, same level for girls services than Sharks and World, I had my best bloody room with Sara / Megan at Mainhattan, not more upselling, just, often average casting.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1925200]Outside Hessen I am a non-regular.
HB.[/QUOTE]Define regular though. LU do not change radically in most FKK.
I fly in few times per year and when I do I go consecutive days. However, most of time LU are 85% similar to previous LU with 15% new girls, so I doubt LU change radically in any FKK club, I think LU change to noticeable level once every few month and not every few weeks.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1925117]I sessioned with Amelia. Skinny Romanian, 168 cm. Short brunette hair. Mechanical session. Light kissing, does not like intense DATY. Mechanical cowgirl with little passion during missionary. She does not perform ball licking and said that she does not to that for anyone. She could tell that I was not enjoying the session and asked what was wrong. I told her honestly that she did not give the passionate session that I liked. She tried to explain that girls do not have sex like wives at this club, obviously a lie. I left after 20 minutes and she was not at all happy with me. Oh well.
[/QUOTE]Most (almost all) guys underestimate the number of girls by a significant factor. I don't really think it could be as low as 40 like you say. No matter though. The attendance was low.
I took Amelia once a long time ago. I am assuming it is the same one, since there was only ever one in my experience. She really expected me to repeat her after that and did not understand why I did not. So she does not perhaps really understand some girls are performing much better than wives, and giving a really wonderful time to the customer. She did have her restrictions.
I would describe my session back then as okay But a bit lacklustre. Perhaps she was a little better back in those days. Could be jaded by now.
YY is obviously an optimist who can find almost all girls to be great, which seems a bit unrealistic, but the girls know how to behave I guess.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1925061] But when the atmosphere here gets polluted with nasty, pointless posts (not just to me, but others as well) and it degenerates into personal attacks that are not based on any facts or reason, you start to loose your lust and appetite to put in the time and effort to compose these reports. You get disgusted, like expecting to dive into a clean pool just to find that some wanker is pissing in it. It used to be fun, but now it becomes boring to non-enjoyable.
But look: This whole thing is a complete distraction. Who really cares about this crap anyway? Right? So let's put this whole discussion to bed, and turn back to what this thread is supposed to be about: Girls and action at BHH.[/QUOTE]Best to ignore the negative shit dumpers, as far as possible, who have to be the one who knows everything, right? Other readers will be able to get value from any good info produced. Any useful data.
I agree its about which girls can really give a good time, and why they can be good, since different guys have different motivations. Most other things, outside of plain facts, are too wishy washy to be much value. Once several guys include the same girl in their list of favourites, I think we can take notice. Even I never tried a girl, I can suspect how good she might potentially be, given several recommendations.
Most of my favourites have been crap for somebody, looking for something different, but still liked by some other customers.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1925323]Most (almost all) guys underestimate the number of girls by a significant factor. I don't really think it could be as low as 40 like you say. No matter though. The attendance was low.
Amelia...[/QUOTE]Perhaps you are right. The best estimate I can give without a number is that the numbered girls on this Saturday night was similar to a Monday might number. Perhaps it was the rain or the Germany vs Brazil Olympic gold medal match, but the numbers were abysmal for a Saturday night. Then again, I arrived at midnight so maybe it was better at 2100.
I believe it was the same Amelia because when I looked at a list you put out in July, the descriptions match.
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[QUOTE=Ortos;1925061]But when the atmosphere here gets polluted with nasty, pointless posts (not just to me, but others as well) and it degenerates into personal attacks that are not based on any facts or reason[/QUOTE]What facts are we talking about here? When it comes to how I determine which posters to be reliable, it's about deduction. It's a combination of my experience, frequency of reporting noticed, what clubs they have reported on, and what girls reported. Also, posting patterns that are apparent.
For people like I, good intel and perspectives are highly important than quality of the writing. Although, some reports are just fun read and well written, but doesn't mean there is good intel in the writing.
Like Der Auslander for example. His postings I will take with a grain of salt. There is nothing he contributes besides postings about what his opinions on members here (not that I haven't done the same, and of course we both greatly differ in who's content are the most reliable). What does seniority have to do with anything here? Many members with various backgrounds and experiences. Some has not made a career out of mongering, doesn't mean they cannot provide reliable intel, and perspective on things.
We all have opinions on various clubs, girls, etc. Some dedicate to a club. Some only attend a club or two. Some attend many clubs. This is another factor I look for in punter, s perspectives.
Things that are questionable are those that cannot be determined to be factual. Nobody can verify what has actually occurred. We can only go by a bit of deductions and posting patterns.
I look for posters with reliable content. Facts about club prices, transport are easily verified factual or not. Other than that, a lot of things you cannot determine factuality of the content.
Things can be tailored to sound reasonable. Lawyers do it all the time. It just takes some common sense(some deductions) to figure things out. I like things that are straight up to the point. No beating around the bush.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1925373] Then again, I arrived at midnight so maybe it was better at 2100.[/QUOTE]Dayshift at Oase finish at 10 pm therefore you can add around 20 girls to your figure.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1925065]I'd like to suggest yet again that the Oase thread be used for Oase topics, and the General or Lounge threads be used for topics that are not specific to a single FKK.[/QUOTE]Well said. I agree.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1925288]Define regular though. LU do not change radically in most FKK.[/QUOTE]The term is somewhat subjective but in my opinion a Regular Customer (or Stamgast) would visit a club (like FKK Oase) several times per month and perhaps at least once or twice a week. Such a customer would know most of the girls working in the club (at least by name) and would perhaps have gained intimate knowledge of many of the working girls over time. A good example would be how the indomitable [B]Syzygies[/B] can provide Line-Up Lists of the girls working in his preferred club on any given night when he is in attendance (see linked examples of Syzygies Line-Up Lists in the Reports of Distinction Thread). Therefore it is easier for a resident of Germany (or perhaps a neighboring country) to become a regular at his favorite club and less easy for a non-national or someone travelling from outside Europe.
Are there advantages to being a Stamgast or Regular Customer? There would possible be more consistent and better service offered by the working girls even for half hour sessions because the Stamgast is a regular visitor and his €50 would possibly be available to the WG on a more frequent basis. If the Regular Customer is a high roller the girls will fight to get him as a customer. Obviously if you are a regular at any club you get to know the staff working in the establishment and also some of the other regular customers. This can make any club visit a more enjoyable experience.
Are there disadvantages? I've seen guys get fixated about a particular girl and only visit a club regularly for this working-girl. In effect the club wife syndrome where the customer cannot go with another girl without offending the regular WG. Of course the regular WG may be offering extra services to keep the Stamgast or Regular Customer happy. But all said and done although some guys are happy with this particular club wife scenario, its definitely not for me!
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Amelia
[QUOTE=Takedown;1925178]They sound like different girls. "Amelia" is much taller than 160 and cannot pass as German at all. This one also says that she has been there 2 years. Has some letters tattoo'd on her neck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your confirmation. Maybe different one.
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Optimist
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1925323]YY is obviously an optimist who can find almost all girls to be great, which seems a bit unrealistic, but the girls know how to behave I guess.[/QUOTE]Yes, IMHO, every girl has something special or something unique, that I love.
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Amelia
While double names are a fairly common thing in Oase, the Amelia Syz is talking about has been there for about 4 or 5 years. I didn't see her in the beginning of August, but in the spring she was still "going strong". For me she is always a good example of how club "rules" or "atmosphere" or "mafias" can make or brake girls (from our persopective).
Just today I had avery crappy session in Luderlounge with a girl that just transfered from Paradise Saarbrucken. When I told her to call it quits after about 18 minutes (always nice to have the option of a 20 minute session), she made me stay and explain why. The only real counter she had was "In saarbrucken we didn't really do all this stuff and it is difficult to change", we are talking decent DFK and the like. But anyway, I digress.
When Amelia was very new, shy and had few rooms. We are talking about the times where the kino was closed, food was served from behind the bar and the idea of going to a room without making out in the kino (or somewhere else) was preposturous. Nothing changed in oase over the last years as you can see. Back then I used to meet up with a buddy of mine, who is smarter and has given up on Oase a while ago, and would do a handfull sessions each. His final one would typically be the first girl that was willing to start blowing him in the bar and then finish the whole the right there, still see a lot of that as well. But again I digress.
We were sitting in one of the couches opposite the kino (also gone) and a very young Amelia sat down in my lap and we just made out for about 15 minutes, without really saying anything and funliy enough: "better than with a wife". Rooms also very GFE without any real restrictions. This continued fairly steadily even as the first cracks in Oase's service reputation strted to appear, and off course at some point we were in the room (or tent really) and she suddenly wouldn't kiss anymore, or maybe if I stayed an hour. We spent half an hour doing pretty much nothing but discuss her sudden service development and after getting her "well deserved" 50 that was it. Although she of course tried to patch things up when she felt the need for some money, nowadays she just ignores me, so everything is nice and as it should be, and she spents her time with Montana and a few others waiting for a busload of Asians or Italians to arrive.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1925520]Nothing changed in oase over the last years as you can see. Back then I used to meet up with a buddy of mine, who is smarter and has given up on Oase a while ago, and would do a handfull sessions each. His final one would typically be the first girl that was willing to start blowing him in the bar and then finish the whole the right there, still see a lot of that as well. But again I digress.[/QUOTE]I called it quits too (maybe for the time being, dunno), I doubt that there will be positive changes. Man, Ortos got firey when I posted that. Oh lord!! For me, Oase was about reliability in service for a while it lasted. Yup, couches gone, replaced with tables. Darker lounge, can't make out the girls in there. Not the same as what it were. Atmosphere, gone. Similarly, prezimmer action degraded which was highlight for me and made it really simple to figure out the good service girls.
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Planning a Visit in November
Hi,
Is November a good time to visit Oase? Are the top girls working during this time?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=DerAuslander;1925455]The term is somewhat subjective but in my opinion a Regular Customer (or Stamgast) would visit a club (like FKK Oase) several times per month and perhaps at least once or twice a week. Such a customer would know most of the girls working in the club (at least by name) and would perhaps have gained intimate knowledge of many of the working girls over time. A good example would be how the indomitable [B]Syzygies[/B] can provide Line-Up Lists of the girls working in his preferred club on any given night when he is in attendance (see linked examples of Syzygies Line-Up Lists in the Reports of Distinction Thread). Therefore it is easier for a resident of Germany (or perhaps a neighboring country) to become a regular at his favorite club and less easy for a non-national or someone travelling from outside Europe.
Are there advantages to being a Stamgast or Regular Customer? There would possible be more consistent and better service offered by the working girls even for half hour sessions because the Stamgast is a regular visitor and his 50 would possibly be available to the WG on a more frequent basis. If the Regular Customer is a high roller the girls will fight to get him as a customer. Obviously if you are a regular at any club you get to know the staff working in the establishment and also some of the other regular customers. This can make any club visit a more enjoyable experience.
Are there disadvantages? I've seen guys get fixated about a particular girl and only visit a club regularly for this working-girl. In effect the club wife syndrome where the customer cannot go with another girl without offending the regular WG. Of course the regular WG may be offering extra services to keep the Stamgast or Regular Customer happy. But all said and done although some guys are happy with this particular club wife scenario, its definitely not for me![/QUOTE]Well I am flying in punter, but I have this last problem of girl getting pissed off when I go with other girls. It is only by one girl at Artemis though, but I have been going with her for years and she does provide me many extras for free (not CIM or anal) by just going one hour with her, and according to the report, she is bad service provider to non regular.
I will check out Oase in December again, let see how it will turn out as last summer, it was not my best FKK experience.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1925726]Well I am flying in punter, but I have this last problem of girl getting pissed off when I go with other girls. It is only by one girl at Artemis though, but I have been going with her for years and she does provide me many extras for free (not CIM or anal) by just going one hour with her, and according to the report, she is bad service provider to non regular.[/QUOTE]When you say extras for free but (not CIM or anal,) I hope you are not implying that kissing, BBBJ, and DATY are "extras. " Those are not extras in FKK Sauna clubs; although if Oase is the only club that you visit, it might seem that way!
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1925520]This continued fairly steadily even as the first cracks in Oase's service reputation strted to appear, and off course at some point we were in the room (or tent really) and she suddenly wouldn't kiss anymore, or maybe if I stayed an hour. We spent half an hour doing pretty much nothing but discuss her sudden service development and after getting her "well deserved" 50 that was it. Although she of course tried to patch things up when she felt the need for some money, nowadays she just ignores me, so everything is nice and as it should be, and she spents her time with Montana and a few others waiting for a busload of Asians or Italians to arrive.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you just gave 50 EUR to Amelia as severance pay. Amelia and Montana are both nice to me, even though I never sessioned with either of them.
Went from doing 20-25 Oase visits a year to 1-3 visits per year in 2014-15. At the moment, I have no plans to return to Oase.
For a 50 EUR session, Oase girls don't want to fuck+suck either. After about 10 minutes, they start complaining and explain I only have five minutes left. I do CIM more frequently than most, but Oase WGs will start complaining mid-way thru those 30 minute sessions as well.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1925834]When you say extras for free but (not CIM or anal,) I hope you are not implying that kissing, BBBJ, and DATY are "extras. " Those are not extras in FKK Sauna clubs; although if Oase is the only club that you visit, it might seem that way![/QUOTE]No, I am not, but more hardcore things I only been to Oase once. I mostly go to Artemis and I have been there maybe over around 80 times, I am not regular as I fly in, but I go consecutive days with my regular girls that I like and also I add on few more beauties to my choice that later become regular if her sessions are good.
Other than that in Hessen area, I been to palace more than 10 times, sharks once, Oase once as mentioned.
Oase had bad upsell almost as bad as palace. But in palace you can negotiate and you can actually get crazy sessions that echoes in eternity. But Oase, it seemed girls are more reluctant to most dirty thing like in palace.
However, I have only been to Oase in I think it was August, if not July. So it must have been low season with not usual LU, so I am looking forward to go back there again during high season before Christmas holiday when girls should be there to squeeze the last profits of this year before heading home.
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[QUOTE=FreeDude;1925520]We were sitting in one of the couches opposite the kino (also gone) and a very young Amelia sat down in my lap and we just made out for about 15 minutes, without really saying anything and funliy enough: "better than with a wife". Rooms also very GFE without any real restrictions. This continued fairly steadily even as the first cracks in Oase's service reputation strted to appear, and off course at some point we were in the room (or tent really) and she suddenly wouldn't kiss anymore, or maybe if I stayed an hour. We spent half an hour doing pretty much nothing but discuss her sudden service development and after getting her "well deserved" 50 that was it. Although she of course tried to patch things up when she felt the need for some money, nowadays she just ignores me, so everything is nice and as it should be, and she spents her time with Montana and a few others waiting for a busload of Asians or Italians to arrive.[/QUOTE]Hey, I could have written this paragraph word for word. My first session with Amelia was on 2011 and I had a final severance session in 2012 as I cannot tolerate girls who want to charge for kissing.
By the way, Montana now looks so totally unattractive that I wonder how she gets any customers. I had my first and last session with Montana in 2012: as she shortchanged me in time by 25 minutes, and then dared to ask for a tip, I never took her again.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1926040]
I been to ... sharks once, Oase once as mentioned.
Oase had bad upsell almost as bad as palace.[/QUOTE]How would you know from one visit?
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1926119]How would you know from one visit?
HB.[/QUOTE]That is why I put I only went once to sharks, Oase and globe all the time in previous posts that my impression on one visit.
However, I could compare it to my experiences to other FKK like Artemis where I have been over 80 times or even close to 100 times over 6 or 7 years, and Mr HB, you do not need to make ironic comments on everyone who says their opinions about FKK, it is just our opinion and nobody is claiming to be expert in FKK LOL.
Plus we acknowledge the fact that Mr HB is the master of FKK and yes you do know a lot.
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The old seized up legs syndrome
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1926048]
By the way, Montana now looks so totally unattractive that I wonder how she gets any customers. I had my first and last session with Montana in 2012: as she shortchanged me in time by 25 minutes, and then dared to ask for a tip, I never took her again.[/QUOTE]I tried Montana once. Her legs were too stiff (no relax). I could not fuck her. My stiff went away rapidly. Same story with some other girls, including Jessica, Alicia(Rom), Irinka, even Laura(Livia). Clearly this is the biggest problem that I experience with Oase girls (experienced this a lot less at Sharks I think - on occasion yes girl was not fully relaxed but still managed to have sex O.K.). Naturally I did not go 1 hour with them, unless somehow managed to waste the first 30 minutes.
I guess these girls can be much better for other customers, when they are relaxed, so I don't say they are bad girls at all. Just not suited for me.
Fortunately there are plenty of girls who bend the knee, raise and spread the legs very relaxed, and make it very easy to fuck them. Even some really little girls can be immensely enjoyable, thinking of Carla, May, Ina (in recent times), with super GFE, whether girl is professionally very good or very amateur.
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Montana was a great session in her early days. Booked her a few times. Then the sessions got worse and worse and I never went again.
HB.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1926145]
Plus we acknowledge the fact that Mr HB is the master of FKK.[/QUOTE]Who is 'we'? Ymmv.
If one girl upsells to one guy, that doesnt mean that she upsells to everyone. Had so many incidents both of girls trying to take advantage of me liking them, to them giving me more than others get probably because they like me a bit. Gangs and labor unions goes some way, but they are never universal once you get to the room... if they were, then fucking a blow up doll would have the same effect as fkk'ing. Ymmv is what makes fkk'ing fun.
As siri hints at, the clue is to make the girls feel your time is precious...
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1926154]I tried Montana once. Her legs were too stiff (no relax). I could not fuck her. My stiff went away rapidly. Same story with some other girls, including Jessica, Alicia(Rom), Irinka, even Laura(Livia). Clearly this is the biggest problem that I experience with Oase girls (experienced this a lot less at Sharks I think - on occasion yes girl was not fully relaxed but still managed to have sex O.K.). Naturally I did not go 1 hour with them, unless somehow managed to waste the first 30 minutes.
I guess these girls can be much better for other customers, when they are relaxed, so I don't say they are bad girls at all. Just not suited for me.
Fortunately there are plenty of girls who bend the knee, raise and spread the legs very relaxed, and make it very easy to fuck them. Even some really little girls can be immensely enjoyable, thinking of Carla, May, Ina (in recent times), with super GFE, whether girl is professionally very good or very amateur.[/QUOTE]How many days have gone by without a poster mentioning a girl by name he has seen recently at the club that gives good service? Amazing how so many people seem to know everything except what counts. Not referring to anyone in particular.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1925988]Went from doing 20-25 Oase visits a year to 1-3 visits per year in 2014-15. At the moment, I have no plans to return to Oase.
For a 50 EUR session, Oase girls don't want to fuck+suck either. After about 10 minutes, they start complaining and explain I only have five minutes left.[/QUOTE]Ditto. I went from 15-20 Oase visits per year from 2008-2014 to 5 visits a year in 2015-16 for the same reasons you gave. Furthermore, the 5 visits were only to fill my schedule on Tuesdays when it is dessous tag in World and Sharks. And since in my last visit to Oase on a Tuesday in July, it seemed almost like a dessous tag in Oase with boobs and pussies hidden by accessories or towels, I did not even contemplate visiting Oase when I was in Germany this month.
I saw quite a few girls previously from Oase now making an appearance in Sharks when I visited Sharks last week. They told me that business is currently bad at Oase.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1926452]Ditto. I went from 15-20 Oase visits per year from 2008-2014 to 5 visits a year in 2015-16 for the same reasons you gave. [/QUOTE]From 2006 - 2010 I was in average weekly at Oase, at this time Oase was my number one club. Form 2011 - 2012 I was in average every second week at Oase bc next to Oase I also liked at this time on same level World and Atlanta, from 2013 - 2014 I was in average once per month at Oase with an exception for three month when I had a top fav there, at this time more often than weekly. From 2015 till now only once every two or three month there. Since spring 2014 I don't have any fav at Oase but in this frequency I'm looking for a new one there.
With the service level of Oase I don't have a problem. Ofc it dropped down over the years in hugh steps but for me for the good looking girls isn't any big differance to the other big Frankfurt clubs. And when I'm really interested in a girl it's up to me to bring her the way I want or not.
No what really bothers me at Oase is the general outside room behavior of most of the new girls there. And I don't mean with this the acquisition approaching, no I mean the insults to me or other long time (ex) regulars at Oase. I've heard this also from now ex Oase top acts that they lost many regulars bc of this behavior of these chicks at Oase. I had some "discussions" at Oase with girls I can't believe and the girls came to me I want nothing from them. Or girls listening talks with me and other guys and they interfere in a very rude way. For instance two girls listening a conversation with me and a guy and they interfere in a really aggressive way blaming us we weren't allowed to talk about other Oase girls. Ok I said also very rude "fuck you off", nevertheless I don't need a behavior like this. And it's useless to complain at Oase about things like that. Therefore I prefer clubs where such a behavior isn't allowed and when a girl do and a guy complains she can pack her things immediately.
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Oase or World?
Hello everyone,
I'm going to visit either World or Oase next Sunday (28.08).
Which would you recommend? (Posting in both Oase and World forums).
Mainly looking for thin, sweet GFE type girls if that matters.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1926481]From 2006 - 2010 I was in average weekly at Oase, at this time Oase was my number one club. Form 2011 - 2012 I was in average every second week at Oase bc next to Oase I also liked at this time on same level World and Atlanta, from 2013 - 2014 I was in average once per month at Oase with an exception for three month when I had a top fav there, at this time more often than weekly. From 2015 till now only once every two or three month there. Since spring 2014 I don't have any fav at Oase but in this frequency I'm looking for a new one there.
With the service level of Oase I don't have a problem. Ofc it dropped down over the years in hugh steps but for me for the good looking girls isn't any big differance to the other big Frankfurt clubs. And when I'm really interested in a girl it's up to me to bring her the way I want or not.
No what really bothers me at Oase is the general outside room behavior of most of the new girls there. And I don't mean with this the acquisition approaching, no I mean the insults to me or other long time (ex) regulars at Oase. I've heard this also from now ex Oase top acts that they lost many regulars bc of this behavior of these chicks at Oase. I had some "discussions" at Oase with girls I can't believe and the girls came to me I want nothing from them. Or girls listening talks with me and other guys and they interfere in a very rude way. For instance two girls listening a conversation with me and a guy and they interfere in a really aggressive way blaming us we weren't allowed to talk about other Oase girls. Ok I said also very rude "fuck you off", nevertheless I don't need a behavior like this. And it's useless to complain at Oase about things like that. Therefore I prefer clubs where such a behavior isn't allowed and when a girl do and a guy complains she can pack her things immediately.[/QUOTE]Many times I faced a little bit the same problem in Oase and Palace but not only, I don't believe that to insult them is the adapted answer just ignore them. Sometimes when I say tony girl that she is beautiful but that I am tired she starts to be very angry with me I just ignore, obviously in many club I have my favorite for example today at world 1 girl wait for me 3 hours until I finished sauna etc. Wanted to try a new one but couldn't t say no to her. Conclusion yes some negative behavior but fortunately a lot of positive largely compensating the bad one. Seldom I am facing this kind of problem in world.
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Present
Anyone know if Laura and Alice is still present at Oase? Both blonde.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1926481]From 2006 - 2010 I was in average weekly at Oase, at this time Oase was my number one club. Form 2011 - 2012 I was in average every second week at Oase bc next to Oase I also liked at this time on same level World and Atlanta, from 2013 - 2014 I was in average once per month at Oase with an exception for three month when I had a top fav there, at this time more often than weekly. From 2015 till now only once every two or three month there. Since spring 2014 I don't have any fav at Oase but in this frequency I'm looking for a new one there.
With the service level of Oase I don't have a problem. Ofc it dropped down over the years in hugh steps but for me for the good looking girls isn't any big differance to the other big Frankfurt clubs. And when I'm really interested in a girl it's up to me to bring her the way I want or not.
No what really bothers me at Oase is the general outside room behavior of most of the new girls there. And I don't mean with this the acquisition approaching, no I mean the insults to me or other long time (ex) regulars at Oase. I've heard this also from now ex Oase top acts that they lost many regulars bc of this behavior of these chicks at Oase. I had some "discussions" at Oase with girls I can't believe and the girls came to me I want nothing from them. Or girls listening talks with me and other guys and they interfere in a very rude way. For instance two girls listening a conversation with me and a guy and they interfere in a really aggressive way blaming us we weren't allowed to talk about other Oase girls. Ok I said also very rude "fuck you off", nevertheless I don't need a behavior like this. And it's useless to complain at Oase about things like that. Therefore I prefer clubs where such a behavior isn't allowed and when a girl do and a guy complains she can pack her things immediately.[/QUOTE]You cannot expect 95% FKK girls to have any education. Both at their home and school.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1927062]You cannot expect 95% FKK girls to have any education. Both at their home and school.[/QUOTE]This has less to do with education than on rules and discipline. The problem is that the Oase girls don't have any discipline since drill sergeant Gaby left Oase. The Oase girls can now do in many ways what they want. Take for excample the lingerie rule, I have feeling girls decide every day is lingerie day. Or take this permanent smartphone useing of the girls. And rude behavior with guests is absolutly NoGo. All this things works in other clubs much better bc the club has rules and makes sure the girls follow this rules. And follow rules has nothing to do with education, look at armys their soldiers follow rules with or without education.
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Laura (Juicy's sister) is there. There's a new Alice, dark hair, was at LR, Point, Aca and Paradise LE before.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1927111]This has less to do with education than on rules and discipline. The problem is that the Oase girls don't have any discipline since drill sergeant Gaby left Oase. The Oase girls can now do in many ways what they want. Take for excample the lingerie rule, I have feeling girls decide every day is lingerie day. Or take this permanent smartphone useing of the girls. And rude behavior with guests is absolutly NoGo. All this things works in other clubs much better bc the club has rules and makes sure the girls follow this rules. And follow rules has nothing to do with education, look at armys their soldiers follow rules with or without education.[/QUOTE]It maybe got to do little bit with Artemis raid about rule issue. As for service, even I went to Oase just once, comparison to other FKK I have been to, I did realize girls behavior is different when it comes to negotiation for price and I even found palace better for service.
As for permanent smartphone use by girls, really? If so, we can join them and use our smartphone permanently at Oase too, oh buddy, remember that smartphone has silent camera and video on it LOL.
Anyways, we cannot expect a lot from these ho in FKK LOL not all of them, but most of them LOL.
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This has nothing to do with what happened at Artemis, it started way before.
Smartphones are allowed for male guests also, in the garden and inside the club. All other clubs in Hessen do not allow smartphones, only in certain areas like lockers or at the reception. NRW clubs do mostly allow smartphones everywhere.
HB.
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Syz: Laura stiff legs? She was like yelly with me. Almost a bit scared to return to the room with her as I felt she might be breakable (LOL). Deffinately repeatable. Come to think of it, I don't know why I haven't resessioned her yet.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1927246]It maybe got to do little bit with Artemis raid about rule issue. As for service, even I went to Oase just once, comparison to other FKK I have been to, I did realize girls behavior is different when it comes to negotiation for price and I even found palace better for service.
As for permanent smartphone use by girls, really? If so, we can join them and use our smartphone permanently at Oase too, oh buddy, remember that smartphone has silent camera and video on it LOL.
Anyways, we cannot expect a lot from these ho in FKK LOL not all of them, but most of them LOL.[/QUOTE]Arrived at 10 am this morning, what a great LU, all the girls playing around the pool just gorgeous, I don t know why some are complaining about smartphone use I found the girls more relax than before. Session-ed Anya (blond, beautiful skin) told me she was from Russia may be true but what is sure after I saw her on the pool for more than 2 hours it was a real pleasure to be with this beauty except sili (nicely done) boob everything is perfect at least for my taste.
Overall one of my best FKK day.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;1926443]How many days have gone by without a poster mentioning a girl by name he has seen recently at the club that gives good service? Amazing how so many people seem to know everything except what counts. Not referring to anyone in particular.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. Very good comment. Didn't you know that the good girls are often highly coveted secrets, or some guys are so negative, they can't bring themselves to praise any girls? Instead we get all these general non specific comments, hardly very useful to me.
We can forgive guys not posting any girl comment or recommendation if he is away overseas for a long period.
I like it, when I read consistently how good was Denisa, for example, since I never tried her yet. It is nice to read which girls are generally considered to give a pretty good reliable GFE session. It is very helpful when a girl may have been considered but was in the undecided category for a try. Its possibly useful to read reviews of new girls in particular.
Every club has a set of good girls, most likely. Knowing some names of girls generally recommended can be handy, if happen to meet them and are considering them, being the right type. If no names can be remembered, then of course it does not work. Unnamed girls can hardly be useful.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1928028]Arrived at 10 am this morning, what a great LU, all the girls playing around the pool just gorgeous, I don t know why some are complaining about smartphone use I found the girls more relax than before. Session-ed Anya (blond, beautiful skin) told me she was from Russia may be true but what is sure after I saw her on the pool for more than 2 hours it was a real pleasure to be with this beauty except sili (nicely done) boob everything is perfect at least for my taste.
Overall one of my best FKK day.[/QUOTE]Can you believe Anya is really Russian? With my little experience about land of lies, I give you 2 secrets: Russians don't stay with Romanian girls, Ina always stayed alone, Tatiana didn't go with Romanians. Also, Anya doesn't speak Russian, not easy in Russia because Russians are really bad for foreign languages. She has not at all the Russian women sensuality, but if you enjoyed her fluent kissing in room, then you can find many top performers at Oase. Pretty, but not woman behavior for me, like too many girls tried at Oase. Upselling, you want to finish in my mouth? Was not my main negative point, most are not women yet, except Ina, Tatiana, Elisabet. Cz.
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Hot summer days
Syz / Aki,
What? Are we allowed to give a positive review about this club? With names? Is that permitted?
Last week there was a heatwave all over Hessen. It was h-o-t, baby. I mean, it was past 95 degrees in the shades. It was too hot for the girls to wear any outfits at all, and for once everybody did justice to the FKK concept, which really did not help cooling things down for the gents around the pool. Apart from Donna, of course, but even Donna had removed her panties exposing her beautiful round ass, and even her big bra could not hide the biggest cleavage in town. It was BURNING!
The restaurant was moved outdoors, and the chef served freshly made eggs in different styles, crispy bacon and fresh salads. To me nothing beats eating breakfast outside at Oase in summer. Club opens at 10 am. Breaksfast is served from 11 am.
Around the pool was around 10- 15 girls sunbathing. And me. Me like. I really enjoy the early hours when the girls are more relaxed, they have time to play in the pool, and every once in a while you get a sweet invitation. Public sex is not uncommon. Mostly in the sunbeds farthest away or in the bed on the hill. By 4 pm the situation is changed. The gents arrive and occupy the scene around the pool while the girls keep disappearing to the Zimmers.
It's August with lots of girls on vacation. Diana DR and Krina both seems to be away for a longer period. I did not see Juicy. But Alexia (model mit Brille), Alexa ("Thai") Elizabeth and Elizabeth were in attendance. Ina, Lat is back. All top girls IME, but I am sure experiences vary. And lots of new girls including the very pretty 19 yo Maria, ro and a very young German girl from Hamburg (dark hair, heavy war paint, silly cones, but beautiful hips and legs and bubbly personality). Late night saw a few new hot looking girls to me that I am not able to name ufortuneately. And I still have not identified Denisa ...
A slim brunette with very pretty face and "perfect model body" claimed to be Ex-Globe. I believe her. I also believed her when she said she wanted 50 E extra for kissing irrespective of time in the room, so it did not happen. My money went to someone else.
All in all a very good day at Oase. A much better line-up at Oase than World. No question. Still, I enjoyed myself silly at World too (Selena, Oana, Ella, Maya).
Apparantly Mauro has recently told the girls in one of his many meetings that there now are almost 400 girls in total at Oase and that they would "all show up at Messe time in September". Let's take that statement with a grain of salt.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1928755]
Apparantly Mauro had told the girls in one of his many meetning that there now are almost 400 girls in total at Oase and that they would "all show up at Messe time in September". Let's take that statement with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]400 girls, great but why waiting till September, right now is Tendence Messe.
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400 girls and 30 rooms? Like Magnum claim 100 and Oceans 200 . Not serious. I just need 1 classy, pretty, sweet girl who is able to behave like a real woman, in a club.
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LOL at 400 girls. That guy must have been checking his 'all time visiting' list for the past 3 years or so to come up with such a number. Or probably alot of girls just haven't said that they are not returning while working other clubs.
But if the same LU that I saw in July returns in Sept., we have nothing to complain about. That was about 90-100 girls where about 25 were doable (and I am normally quite picky. If I see 10 doable girls, I'm more than satisfied... sharks was at about 15 the day before) Maybe the best optical LU ever. (Syz and takedown was there as well and seemed to agree it was a great LU)
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1928773]I just need 1 classy, pretty, sweet girl who is able to behave like a real woman, in a club.[/QUOTE]Siri,
You hunk you. You are way to modest. I would probably need 6- 8 goodlooking regular girls with solid performance to keep me interested in the long run (repeat list). Half of them are usually away at any given time! I also would like to have a choice of 2- 3 new girls on my todo-list to keep things interesting. Oase serves me well in this respect. Note that I am only a semi-monthly visitor at best (apart from summer), and I fully respect that gents that visit the clubs more frequently have a need for a greater consumption and change (girls and clubs).
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1928811]LOL at 400 girls. That guy must have been checking his 'all time visiting' list for the past 3 years or so to come up with such a number. Or probably alot of girls just haven't said that they are not returning while working other clubs.[/QUOTE]Don't laugh to hard. Actually I can believe that a list of girls interested to work at Oase could contain 400 names. I just doubt they will all show up during the busiest week of the Auto messe. Realistically my guesstimate would be closer to 140- 200 girls in that particular week (a normal busy week usually contains 120- 150 names, and earlier this month maybe just half of that). But let's wait and see.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1929029]Don't laugh to hard. Actually I can believe that a list of girls interested to work at Oase could contain 400 names. I just doubt they will all show up during the busiest week of the Auto messe. Realistically my guesstimate would be closer to 140- 200 girls in that particular week (a normal busy week usually contains 120- 150 names, and earlier this month maybe just half of that). But let's wait and see.[/QUOTE]Mr. Sharky, your PM box is full once again.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1929024]Siri,
You hunk you. You are way to modest. I would probably need 6- 8 goodlooking regular girls with solid performance to keep me interested in the long run (repeat list). Half of them are usually away at any given time! I also would like to have a choice of 2- 3 new girls on my todo-list to keep things interesting. Oase serves me well in this respect. Note that I am only a semi-monthly visitor at best (apart from summer), and I fully respect that gents that visit the clubs more frequently have a need for a greater consumption and change (girls and clubs).[/QUOTE]I don't know what means hunk? But Ina. Lat, if she is back, is just enough for me. So honest girl at Oase.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1929029]Don't laugh to hard. Actually I can believe that a list of girls interested to work at Oase could contain 400 names. I just doubt they will all show up during the busiest week of the Auto messe. Realistically my guesstimate would be closer to 140- 200 girls in that particular week (a normal busy week usually contains 120- 150 names, and earlier this month maybe just half of that). But let's wait and see.[/QUOTE]Oase is too small to manage so many girls, it is more advertisement than real life. Visited many times during the big fairs the attendance was not so big until 10 PM, let see what will happen this time.
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Inna said something about staying until mid September.
HB.
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In the last ten years I've never seen more than 130 girls on one day at Oase, and that includes IAA and many other Frankfurt Messe.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1929288]Inna said something about staying until mid September.
HB.[/QUOTE]When did she arrive?
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Quick question. Considering visiting Oaze in January and just realizing that I have never been there at that time of the year. How is the LU. Are many girls away for orthodox Christmas / New Year?
(Posted the same question in Sharks forum. Sorry about repetition.).
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1929029]Don't laugh to hard. Actually I can believe that a list of girls interested to work at Oase could contain 400 names. I just doubt they will all show up during the busiest week of the Auto messe. Realistically my guesstimate would be closer to 140- 200 girls in that particular week (a normal busy week usually contains 120- 150 names, and earlier this month maybe just half of that). But let's wait and see.[/QUOTE]Maybe throughout a whole week you may near up on 200, but not on a single day. And those 200 would pretty much be the whole Oase list with absolutely noone away. As for girls wanting to work there, I wish I knew about the selection process too.
I second Craiova's statement regarding the 'maximum' at Oase. But 130 girls really is a whole fucking lot of girls too! When people exeed 100 girls, the mind tends to leave the room in one direction, and the cum flies in 5 other directions. There are no clubs where 130 girls would not make the club packed. Maybe Sharks and Artemis has more girls lockers and rooms, but even there I believe 150 is the absolute max. So just a fraction more...
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1929332]In the last ten years I've never seen more than 130 girls on one day at Oase, and that includes IAA and many other Frankfurt Messe.[/QUOTE]Just to be clear: My speculation below applied to how many separate girls you can find in the club during a whole week. As you know there are some girls never working the crowded Friday and Saturday night.
Don't take my numbers too seriously. I am just having some fun trying to figure out what is likely to happen.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1929332]In the last ten years I've never seen more than 130 girls on one day at Oase, and that includes IAA and many other Frankfurt Messe.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you, even 120 girls is a very huge number there are definitively not enough rooms.
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And in a few weeks, a new club opens with 600 girls working. Ofcourse adverticed like this before the first recruit is made.
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This question has been asked many, many, many times down through the years.
Yes the line up will be down. Yes many girls will go home for the holidays. Be that the Western European / American Christmas / New Year Holidays (Gregorian Calendar) or the Orthodox Calendar Christmas / New Year Holidays. Line ups in all the clubs, even the big mega FKK / Sauna Clubs will be well down by many many girls. Christmas and New Year (from about a week or ten days before Christtmas to the end of January and probably a bit later) are not the best time to plan a mongering trip to Germany, particularly if you can only travel a few times a year. However, there is never a bad time to visit a FKK / Sauna Club because all the clubs will be open (some even on Christmas Day) and all clubs will have girls present. The bigger clubs will still have a good selection of girls.
I have visited many times during the holiday period and always had a great time.
[QUOTE=Carpediem;1929386]Quick question. Considering visiting Oaze in January and just realizing that I have never been there at that time of the year. How is the LU. Are many girls away for orthodox Christmas / New Year?[/QUOTE]
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I've visited in late January and had a great time at Oase and Sharks. Is the lineup as good as other months? Maybe not, but the crowds are down too. Its a tradeoff of having a handful of hot girls vs a gaggle of hot girls vs a scarcity of customers vs a deluge of customers.
Pick your battles and your pussies.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1929505]And in a few weeks, a new club opens with 600 girls working. Ofcourse adverticed like this before the first recruit is made.[/QUOTE]Really? I mean they say new big club was supposed to open at Potsdam, and it never did.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1929505]And in a few weeks, a new club opens with 600 girls working. Ofcourse adverticed like this before the first recruit is made.[/QUOTE]New Turkish ghost club around Giessen, with 600 Siberian girls fallen from the Tupolev. Fortunately not for poor World.
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I feel some people might have gotten this wrong. More girls does not allways equal you having a better time at a club. More girls can sometimes mean more customers fighting for the top girls. So chances for having the top girls booked (meaning no access for everyone else) for the whole night increases. And also chances of not being able to reach the top picks increases. A slow night is usually just as good as a busy night. This is deffinately the case with the most busy messe nights.
Which means that the chances of you having a good time at an FKK is pretty much luck based 365 days a year. Only thing that matters is if you are positive and find a girl or five that you like for the night.
If everybody only comes on certain nights that would mean death and decay. And many bad things could occur:
- Girls might start charging more on these nights.
- Even more guys would fight for the same top 5 girls this night.
- The slow nights would get even slower, making the girls working slow nights even more frustrated.
- More girls would start taking a vacation during the slow periods. So reaching them would get even harder...
I'd say all 12 months of the year is good (maybe except a few weeks in august when alot are on vacation, or a few days around new year...) But I know top girls working both these periods as well, and even had a girl being angry at me once for not joining her for new year. As the club was so boring then, and she was stuck working that week... I bet she had given me a great time if I had come...
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1929505]And in a few weeks, a new club opens with 600 girls working. Ofcourse adverticed like this before the first recruit is made.[/QUOTE]You also believe that Red Bull makes you fly?
HB.
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Oase on last week end
I was finally there last week end, maybe my 6th or 7th visit to Oase, but never in such a hot weather. The good thing is that you can relax and admire the gorgeous girls around the pool. It was so hot the only way to cool off was to jump in the water. Anyways I got there around 2 pm and there were lots of girls and not too many guys so perfect setup. Some people love the BBQ; for me I find it's too bad that they close the pizza place when they serve food outside, I enjoy the pizza much more that the rest of the food they have. I also learned some room as air conditioned and others are not, which I had never noticed before, but on that day believe me I noticed. Anyways, I saw Hun Elizabeth, still my favorite; always with a smile, polite, and classy; never loud, never insistent, and gorgeous with great service. After relaxing and some food I decided to go for a second session, and met Amy from Germany (if so, the only German in the club). It was a good session and no upselling but a little bit mechanical, plus it was not an air conditioned room so after a few minutes it became difficult to do anything, it was like a sauna. Similar setup on the next day, there were so many gorgeous girls I didn't know what to do. I try to stay away from the loud or insistent girls, they look like trouble. Plus I can tell they bad mouth the guys who turn them down. Anyways, I met Corina, nice curly young blonde from Romania. Very nice bubbly personality, easy to talk to and get along with. Very good service too, I will repeat. Finally the last one was a wild brunette called Claudia from Romania. Petite and good looking, excellent session and just went for maximum fun; it was totally worth it.
An expensive week end, but I left a happy man, as always. Still my favorite place, without a doubt.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1930007]You also believe that Red Bull makes you fly?
HB.[/QUOTE]Red Bull? I thought that was what powerred those formula one cars.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1929715]New Turkish ghost club around Giessen, with 600 Siberian girls fallen from the Tupolev. Fortunately not for poor World.[/QUOTE]The undercover russian invasion army. It is like the taking of Troy. You never realize they have machine guns in their pussies untill you go down at their why.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1929746]I feel some people might have gotten this wrong. More girls does not allways equal you having a better time at a club. More girls can sometimes mean more customers fighting for the top girls. So chances for having the top girls booked (meaning no access for everyone else) for the whole night increases. And also chances of not being able to reach the top picks increases. A slow night is usually just as good as a busy night. This is deffinately the case with the most busy messe nights.
[/QUOTE]Girls expect more guys during the big Messe like IAA or Automech. That's why there are more girls and guys. That means long wait for rooms to take affect. Last year(2015) was IAA (which has greater attendance than Automech), which would explain the longer wait for rooms(larger crowds) than the year prior. The lines started earlier as well. There may have been some hype due to the great attendance of girls from the year prior.
2014 Automech LU was outstanding. Drew girls from other clubs that includes Sharks and World. Automech 2014 had high attendance. Many of the girls in attendance were those that started at Oase throughout the year, so Automech just had the best attendance of girls. There were girls I didn't see on other visits, and therefore many takers. 2015 Automech on the other hand, didn't change all that much. The LU was similar to the year prior.
I'm thinking this year Sharks will be on the spotlight. Likely, greater crowds there during Automech this year. Girls know which is the popular club in the area (and Sharks has been gaining popularity), and they'd likely get drawn to that club during the Messe.
Interestingly, Mainhattan (A city club!) Wasn't that busy on IAA night. Certainly not even close to Oase (which is outside the city, further away from Messe center like Sharks). Met a beautiful and humble girl name Sarah(humbly working at Mainhattan at the time, now Megan at Sharks), during that time.
Good earning potential for a lot of girls with a large crowd, and there will be lots of tourists around. It will be a seller's market. Clubs with tourists, girls are accustomed to dealing with those types. It's all about what types of clientele girls are used to dealing with that creates how they deal with other tourists.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1930136]
I'm thinking this year Sharks will be on the spotlight. Likely, greater crowds there during Automech this year. Girls know which is the popular club in the area (and Sharks has been gaining popularity), and they'd likely get drawn to that club during the Messe.
[/QUOTE]I don't think so. Sharks doesn't get that many visitors from Messe Frankfurt. There's some who got wheels, but only few guys are taking a cab to Darmstadt. Too far. Palace. Oase. Mainhattan. Those are the Messe clubs.
HB.
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I remember last year for IAA, on mid September, girls were not busy at Mainhattan or Sharks, and said: lower business than out of IAA. Blond Cristina tried Mainhattan at this time, with blond Bella.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1930163]I remember last year for IAA, on mid September, girls were not busy at Mainhattan or Sharks, and said: lower business than out of IAA. Blond Cristina tried Mainhattan at this time, with blond Bella.[/QUOTE]Last year IAA was a big disappointment for the girls. At Oase and Mainhattan more girls than usual but more guys? No I didn't realise on guys number that it was Messe time.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1930369]Last year IAA was a big disappointment for the girls. At Oase and Mainhattan more girls than usual but more guys? No I didn't realise on guys number that it was Messe time.[/QUOTE]Even less clients during IAA, said the girl, but it was good for me with my jolie Sara at Mainhattan, and on a Monday, in the garden, with Karolina. Pol, at Sharks.
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I usually try to avoid messe dates by about a week. That way selection seems to be good, and I also avoid the most hectic days. And hotel prices are sometimes lower too, and it isn't fully booked long in advance. Then again, some messe attendances seems to be more inclined to slip over to the FKK's than others. No idea about cars, but book lovers for example seems to be drawn to FKK's. Not to mention sex messe's like Venus in Berlin :)
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I do wonder though. With recent experiences at Oase, the girls doesn't seem all that strict on the upselling being voiced here on the forum by some. And I think it could easily stop. Only two of my favourites top 10 optics still try that on me there as two others dropped it on the 2nd session, and I kinda feel that the girls sense the competition from other clubs where service levels has had higher review rates lately. So there is a conflict among the girls I feel. In the end, they would loose if people moved elsewhere, so if you just talk to the girls up front, alot of these lookers at Oase will give just as good service as anywhere else. And Oase is #1 at optics no doubt these days when every girl is around. Only reason to go to other clubs for me these days is the 1-3 top girls at artemis/sharks/oceans. But diversity in top 10 in those other clubs are way worse...
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Saturday Sept 3 at Oase
Short layover in FRA airport and had previously decided that I'd rather get out to Oase for 2 hours and not spend 7 hours in the airport.
Got there right at opening 10:00 am and had two hours scheduled.
Met first with Alina. Romanian. She said we had met before, wish I had remembered her. What a disappointment. OK BBBJ, tried to upsell me for DFK, said I would stay with her for an hour if she did, she said OK. After 20 minutes I realized she had no intention of doing anything similar to DFK so I said lets go, I'm tired. Hit me up for $100 claiming 50 E was for kissing. Chose not to argue the point with her, there were few girls there that early and I didn't want her to ruin my fun with the other ones.
Next was Diama. Dominican Republic. Great oral. Amazing DFK and ever so soft full lips. Fucked her like a porn star. She DFK'd but no eating at the why, that was her upsell. I was having too much fun with her for that to bother me. Great round soft ass and great full lips, shame she had implants!
Be back on the 17th!
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I noticed upselling from all the girls I interacted with at a recent visit. Maybe not so hard but still noticeable. The girls also complained business was down without connecting the dots.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1930903]I do wonder though. With recent experiences at Oase, the girls doesn't seem all that strict on the upselling being voiced here on the forum by some. And I think it could easily stop. Only two of my favourites top 10 optics still try that on me there as two others dropped it on the 2nd session, and I kinda feel that the girls sense the competition from other clubs where service levels has had higher review rates lately. So there is a conflict among the girls I feel. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Vrsc1962;1931815]
Next was Diana. Dominican Republic. Great oral. Amazing DFK and ever so soft full lips. Fucked her like a porn star. She DFK'd but no eating at the why, that was her upsell. I was having too much fun with her for that to bother me. Great round soft ass and great full lips, shame she had implants!
[/QUOTE]Ha Ha. Diana provides/allows DATY for me no problem, no upsell. However I am an old customer. Maybe because its known I take an hour session. I did not rate her BBBJ quite so highly. Not soft enough to be top class for me.
I start to wonder with so much upsell going on, how many customers end up paying 100 for 30 minutes or less, when I am paying 100 for the hour without the upsell fees. If guys are paying 100, they may as well take the hour. LOL I always wanted the hour, in any case. Not a fast worker.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1930895]I usually try to avoid messe dates by about a week. That way selection seems to be good, and I also avoid the most hectic days. And hotel prices are sometimes lower too, and it isn't fully booked long in advance. Then again, some messe attendances seems to be more inclined to slip over to the FKK's than others. No idea about cars, but book lovers for example seems to be drawn to FKK's. Not to mention sex messe's like Venus in Berlin :)[/QUOTE]Yes Hotel price problems is the real reason to avoid the large scale Messe events. Forget about the effect on the clubs. Just do not arrive too late in the evening. I never saw the need to stay away from Oase when Messe events were on. Late in evening when started to get too many guys arriving, some years, then that was my time to leave.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1931945]Ha Ha. Diana provides/allows DATY for me no problem, no upsell. However I am an old customer. Maybe because its known I take an hour session. I did not rate her BBBJ quite so highly. Not soft enough to be top class for me.
I start to wonder with so much upsell going on, how many customers end up paying 100 for 30 minutes or less, when I am paying 100 for the hour without the upsell fees. If guys are paying 100, they may as well take the hour. LOL I always wanted the hour, in any case. Not a fast worker.[/QUOTE]I prefer an hour as well and find that the women are friendlier and more relaxed. Problem on Saturday was that I had a hard stop at 12:30; needed to be back at the airport for my connecting flight. More bothered that I didn't remember Alina than I am about Diana.
Haven't been to Sharks, are the girls the same there with the upsell?
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[QUOTE=Vrsc1962;1932008]Haven't been to Sharks, are the girls the same there with the upsell?[/QUOTE]I really think there was always less upsell at Sharks. Doesn't mean they are happy with a 50 Euro session though. Doesn't mean they are less aggressive. I have had more girls try to sit on my lap uninvited at Sharks and World than at Oase. Maybe I don't sit down at Oase that much except on the high stools with a table at my lap or in the restaurant. That works. LOL. Also you can escape to the Relax area if there are no pest customers annoying you in there.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1932128] Also you can escape to the Relax area if there are no pest customers annoying you in there.[/QUOTE]Saw something I've never seen at Oase this weekend- a girl snuggling with a guy on a lounger in the relax zone.
Also saw something else, a long haired adonis bareback fucking his female date (who looked like a middle aged pudgy lesbian to me) up the arse in the shower of the sauna hut. I was sitting in the sauna at the time and enjoyed the look of shock on punters faces as they tried to use the shower.
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Turkish guy with blonde german GF? Both around 40 yrs old? Somehow I've seen them plenty of times doing it at Oase. Especially in the jacuuzi.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1932304]Saw something I've never seen at Oase this weekend- a girl snuggling with a guy on a lounger in the relax zone.
Also saw something else, a long haired adonis bareback fucking his female date (who looked like a middle aged pudgy lesbian to me) up the arse in the shower of the sauna hut. I was sitting in the sauna at the time and enjoyed the look of shock on punters faces as they tried to use the shower.[/QUOTE]Was there any up-sell though?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1932306]Turkish guy with blonde german GF? Both around 40 yrs old? Somehow I've seen them plenty of times doing it at Oase. Especially in the jacuuzi.[/QUOTE]I am so glad that I do not use the Jacuzzi.
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Girls in the Relax zone
I have seen girls in the relax zone at Oase but only in the company of a male guest. Usually the girl is sitting on an adjacent lounger or if a bit frisky sitting on the lap of the man.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1932304]Saw something I've never seen at Oase this weekend- a girl snuggling with a guy on a lounger in the relax zone.[/QUOTE]As I already wrote here two years ago girls are allowed at 16th chapel with invitation of a client. Top class russian Steffie spend many hours there.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1931948]Yes Hotel price problems is the real reason to avoid the large scale Messe events. Forget about the effect on the clubs. Just do not arrive too late in the evening. I never saw the need to stay away from Oase when Messe events were on. Late in evening when started to get too many guys arriving, some years, then that was my time to leave.[/QUOTE]Approximately a year ago, I had the unfortunate (unintentionally) timing of scheduling my visit to Frankfurt during some messe event. Most hotels were fully booked, even in Darmstadt. With great difficulty I booked a room in my hotel at more than double the rate I normally pay (I have stayed at this hotel several times in various months, so I know the going rate quite well). As it were, I had some last minute issue, and had to postpone my visit by a week, and the rascals refused to give my any credit. They knew I was not coming, so they probably rented it someone else promptly, perhaps at a higher rate even, as I canceled a couple of days before I was scheduled to fly in.
I wish I could say lesson learned, except that there was not much to learn. Obviously, if I could help it, I would not go during messe, but the timing of my visits is not always in my control.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1932304]Saw something I've never seen at Oase this weekend- a girl snuggling with a guy on a lounger in the relax zone.
Also saw something else, a long haired adonis bareback fucking his female date (who looked like a middle aged pudgy lesbian to me) up the arse in the shower of the sauna hut. I was sitting in the sauna at the time and enjoyed the look of shock on punters faces as they tried to use the shower.[/QUOTE]If that doesn't get you hard, nothing will.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1932304]Saw something I've never seen at Oase this weekend- a girl snuggling with a guy on a lounger in the relax zone.
Also saw something else, a long haired adonis bareback fucking his female date (who looked like a middle aged pudgy lesbian to me) up the arse in the shower of the sauna hut. I was sitting in the sauna at the time and enjoyed the look of shock on punters faces as they tried to use the shower.[/QUOTE] Delete duplicate post.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1932377]. Obviously, if I could help it, I would not go during messe, but the timing of my visits is not always in my control.[/QUOTE]But on the other end of the scale the lineups are all at peak during messe times. Its the best time to go if you don't mind staying out in the country, but im betting your one of the guys who use public transportation and don't rent a car on your trips.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1932681]But on the other end of the scale the lineups are all at peak during messe times. Its the best time to go if you don't mind staying out in the country, but im betting your one of the guys who use public transportation and don't rent a car on your trips.[/QUOTE]I rent a car sometimes or just take a taxi otherwise. I don't walk or take trains, but always I stay close to the club whether I rent a car or take taxi. Since I stay in the clubs till late in the night, it makes more sense for me to stay close and not have a long drive that late. So, I do a day or two in Oase and stay at Mercure or Tagungs and then a few days at sharks and check into one of the hotels close to the train station.
That said, on that occasion I discussed below, even the hotels far away seemed expensive. I looked at hotels ten to fifteen miles north of Freidrichsdorf and they were all 50% above normal rates.
In any case, as I said, the timing of my visits to Germany is not in my control. I do want to visit during messe, especially Oase, as I heard there is a lot of public sex (Dufey mentioned this a few times) and hopefully I can do that some time.
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Messe is fine. Come early. Leave at 10 pm. Great line up. Messe folks show up late. Or go the day before Messe.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1932681]But on the other end of the scale the lineups are all at peak during messe times. Its the best time to go if you don't mind staying out in the country, but im betting your one of the guys who use public transportation and don't rent a car on your trips.[/QUOTE]Don't recommend you to go there if you can choose another time slot, met a girl last year who told me that she had done so many BJ during those days that she had strong pain in her mouth and needed to visit a doctor, may be for relax atmosphere and good service it will not be the best time.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1932715]Messe is fine. Come early. Leave at 10 pm. Great line up. Messe folks show up late. Or go the day before Messe.
HB.[/QUOTE]When are Messe? To organize clubs visits.
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List
In the past there were some useful lists with the line-ups of current girls? Were the forbidden?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1932851]When are Messe? To organize clubs visits.[/QUOTE]Here is all you need: Frankfurt's official Messe calendar. Enjoy! [URL]http://www.messefrankfurt.com/frankfurt/en/besucher/news/news-messekalender.html[/URL].
Key dates for Automechanika 2016 are 13th- 17th September. Usually some great, great times to be had. Just follow HB's advice. And note that some girls can be pretty sharky when the crowds arrive.
Scary stories about crowds, long waiting time for rooms and tired girls are to a large extent exaggerated. I cannot recall any serious issues in this respect for many years (since the renovation when the capacity of the club was increased by around 40- 50% and the arise of "new" clubs like Mainhattan and Sharks). But for those who remember 2004- 08 ... boy, that was something else!
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Were you there last year?
I was there. We can be more specific. Fri and Sat long wait for rooms. Last year, wait for rooms was 1 HR. The line for the wait for room extended to the kino-lounge area at about 730pm. So yeah, expect large crowds at night. That weekend will be the busiest time of the year.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1933151]Were you there last year?
I was there. We can be more specific. Fri and Sat long wait for rooms. Last year, wait for rooms was 1 HR. The line for the wait for room extended to the kino-lounge area at about 730pm. So yeah, expect large crowds at night. That weekend will be the busiest time of the year.[/QUOTE]Well, in 2004- 08 30- 60 mnts wait for rooms were standards many weekend night of the year. And that's not a line. That's pure fun (taking care of your girl without paying). From 10 pm on a Friday / Saturday night during Automechanika in those days there was not a single girl in sight. It was a sausage fest standing room only. By midnight most girls gave up and went home. Capiche?
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[QUOTE=Shark16;1933130]Here is all you need: Frankfurt's official Messe calendar. Enjoy! [URL]http://www.messefrankfurt.com/frankfurt/en/besucher/news/news-messekalender.html[/URL].
Key dates for Automechanika 2016 are 13th- 17th September. Usually some great, great times to be had. [/QUOTE]Thanks. Wish for girls better business than last year IAA.
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[QUOTE=Woodypussy1967;1933120]In the past there were some useful lists with the line-ups of current girls? Were the forbidden?[/QUOTE]Syzygies is in Thailand now.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1933151]Were you there last year?
I was there. We can be more specific. Fri and Sat long wait for rooms. Last year, wait for rooms was 1 HR. The line for the wait for room extended to the kino-lounge area at about 730pm. So yeah, expect large crowds at night. That weekend will be the busiest time of the year.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you may be in the morning or early afternoon but the evening will be very crowded this is at least my experiences.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1925223]Kliens. Great that you realised that Romanians use "chocolate" as a friendly term. It is very widespread and positive. Glad you had a good time.[/QUOTE]Oops, I missed this before! It was a little surprising, but it's hard to be too upset by a smiling naked woman calling you a cute name.
One question, though (and I hope this isn't too explicit at Oase and Mainhattan, I was told that CIM was more like an HJ into an open mouth, like in porn. That seems odd. Is that standard in most / all Frankfurt FKKs? In any case, I can't wait to go back and hopefully contribute with reviews and advice of my own!
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[QUOTE=Kliens;1933720]Oops, I missed this before! It was a little surprising, but it's hard to be too upset by a smiling naked woman calling you a cute name.
One question, though (and I hope this isn't too explicit at Oase and Mainhattan, I was told that CIM was more like an HJ into an open mouth, like in porn. That seems odd. Is that standard in most / all Frankfurt FKKs? In any case, I can't wait to go back and hopefully contribute with reviews and advice of my own![/QUOTE]Conversely, quite a few black girls had come to me asking "Do you want hot chocolate?". And earlier this year, one from Babylon told me "Take me, top porn chocolate!".
CIM is blowjob to ejeculation. But be aware that there are 2 varieties; one where the girl swallows, and one where the girl spits it out dampening the mood, quite unlike porn movies.
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The third variety
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1933792]Conversely, quite a few black girls had come to me asking "Do you want hot chocolate?". And earlier this year, one from Babylon told me "Take me, top porn chocolate!".
Yes, CIM is mouth job. But be aware that there are 2 varieties; one where the girl swallows, and one where the girl spits it out dampening the mood, quite unlike porn movies.[/QUOTE]Yes, TankTank123 there is a third type of CIM. The first two I agree with you. The third is when you shoot your load unexpectantly deep into a girl's throat that she begins to make this "kacking" noise to try and get it out of her. Slightly different from the one where she just simply spits it out onto a paper towel. One time I shot some up into a girl's throat and up her nose that she has some run out of her nostrils. She just let everything run out, and her facial expression was golden! The look of shock, much like a deer in headlights.
FiddyCent.
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Conditioning or brain washing?
[QUOTE=TankTank123;1933792]
CIM is blowjob to ejeculation. But be aware that there are 2 varieties; one where the girl swallows, and one where the girl spits it out dampening the mood, quite unlike porn movies.[/QUOTE]Why does it dampen the mood? And especially why does it have to mimic porn movies?
Things expelled are waste products. Sperm is of no further use, except for pregnancy. Gooey and sticky and smells bad. Girls could swap it you and you can swallow it(to avoid wasting it and killing the mood).
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1933801]Why does it dampen the mood? And especially why does it have to mimic porn movies?
Things expelled are waste products. Sperm is of no further use, except for pregnancy. Gooey and sticky and smells bad. Girls could swap it you and you can swallow it(to avoid wasting it and killing the mood).[/QUOTE]Some girls would spit it on there tits, if you ask nicely. Swallow is extra, in addition CIM, if they agree. Syzy; sperm kiss is also extra. I am not sure what happens if she allows you to swallow, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1933801]And especially why does it have to mimic porn movies?[/QUOTE]Because Klein indicated that he would revisit Oase on the basis that CIM would be 'like in porn' movies.
I was therefore just forewarning him that he must choose his girls carefully by predetermining whether or not they are going to spit it out. Although the only porn movies I have seen are those I was forced to notice in the rooms in FKKs, I do not recall any where the girl spits out the ejeculate!
But I am sure he will enjoy the 3rd variety mentioned by Fiddycent even more even though I doubt that it had been shown in any porn movie.
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I don't mind the girls spitting it out. Swallowing is not part of the 50€ extra for CIM. I mind it the girl as soon as the first drop hits her mouth more or less pulls away and does more or less cum on lips and not cum in mouth. CIM should be worth the 50€ extra (in Hessen, 25€ in NRW), so she should suck until the last drop is out and even longer and at least act as if she enjoys it. And by the way: cum doesn't have to taste that bad, I've tried mine often enough when kissing a girl after CIM.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1933931]I don't mind the girls spitting it out. Swallowing is not part of the 50 extra for CIM. I mind it the girl as soon as the first drop hits her mouth more or less pulls away and does more or less cum on lips and not cum in mouth. CIM should be worth the 50 extra (in Hessen, 25 in NRW), so she should suck until the last drop is out and even longer and at least act as if she enjoys it. And by the way: cum doesn't have to taste that bad, I've tried mine often enough when kissing a girl after CIM.
HB.[/QUOTE]It is your smell, but not for the girl. Do you want she says she loves you with the last drop?
If I CIM my girls, I couldn't really play my game, fortunately BJ skill won't make me cum.
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I tried mine also once when I was aiming for the rubber bin and was about to wrap the paper with an unknit condom full of my own sperm and it flew right at my mouth. Didn't hit the bin, but landed nicely in my own mouth. Safe to say, it is just like salty water. Perhaps it is worse for them if you have 2 weeks saved sperm that may be slighly yellow as some might have.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1919839]My best girls at Oase:
And 1: Tatiana. Ru, not the prettiest face, but an exceptional GF with good breathe for 2 hours rooms, until her Christmas present. She may return.
And 2: Ina. Lat, just a sweet candy, so kind, I liked so much speaking Russian with her, I couldn't much with Tatiana because kissing all along. Ina should teach to all FKK girls: Honesty, respect, ethic, kindness and skill to take care of a man. When she was at GT on summer 2013 , she respected rate, 25 since second half hour, You could have her for 3 hours for 175 . Wish her the best at home.
And 3: Maria Platinum for our about 10 rooms on 1 month, July 2014 , with our second room in kiosque above swimming pool. Nice girl, I loved her tits, so sexy when she was in the garden.
Some other girls: Roxana for amazing doggy with her vagina lips, Suginella can perform good if she wants, very friendly Elisabet. Cz, thanks for pizza, Lexi met on her third day and losing control, never wanted we repeat, Sabina for her beautiful, smiling face and also friendly.
Bad level for Anya claiming to be Russian. Many girls not woman and skillful enough for me.[/QUOTE]Anya- agree 100%. Competing for the worst FKK session I have ever had. Claims to be Russian. And didn't do anything in the room. Because I like the optics, I gave her almost an hour and very gentle behavior, but she is really a bad performer. Awful session. Very beautiful IMO, shame.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1933872]Because Klein indicated that he would revisit Oase on the basis that CIM would be 'like in porn' movies.
I was therefore just forewarning him that he must choose his girls carefully by predetermining whether or not they are going to spit it out. Although the only porn movies I have seen are those I was forced to notice in the rooms in FKKs, I do not recall any where the girl spits out the ejeculate!
But I am sure he will enjoy the 3rd variety mentioned by Fiddycent even more even though I doubt that it had been shown in any porn movie.[/QUOTE]Ah, allow me to clarify: I don't really care if they spit or swallow, as long as I'm actually IN their mouth when I finish. What I meant by "porn" is the type of porn scene cum shot where the girl opens her mouth wide, sticks out her tongue, and jacks the guy off into her mouth. It may look impressive, but it doesn't feel as good to me. Hadn't experienced that anywhere else, but was told by girls that was the standard at both Oase and Mainhattan.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1933959]Anya- agree 100%. Competing for the worst FKK session I have ever had. Claims to be Russian. And didn't do anything in the room. Because I like the optics, I gave her almost an hour and very gentle behavior, but she is really a bad performer. Awful session. Very beautiful IMO, shame.[/QUOTE]Not Russian, beautiful face and ass, but bad silicon, I hate silicon and lies about where they come from, they should be proud of their origins.
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[QUOTE=Kliens;1934148]Ah, allow me to clarify: I don't really care if they spit or swallow, as long as I'm actually IN their mouth when I finish. What I meant by "porn" is the type of porn scene cum shot where the girl opens her mouth wide, sticks out her tongue, and jacks the guy off into her mouth. It may look impressive, but it doesn't feel as good to me. Hadn't experienced that anywhere else, but was told by girls that was the standard at both Oase and Mainhattan.[/QUOTE]It's a basic porn production principle that you film what looks good to the viewer, not what feels good to the "actors. ".
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1934192]It's a basic porn production principle that you film what looks good to the viewer, not what feels good to the "actors.".[/QUOTE]True, so dicks don't go deeply, to show us dick entering in vagina or ass, girls get cum on face or tongue to show us cum, for those who don t know how work a dick which end cumming. Just a show, not sex.
For my rooms, I always turn off porn TV and girls say: thank you, not at all my game.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1933943]It is your smell, but not for the girl. Do you want she says she loves you with the last drop?
[/QUOTE]Usually they do. After they swallowed for free and licked my dick and balls clean.
HB.
PS: in Hessen they charge 50€ extra for CIM. Nobody forces them to do it. But it's good money, same as for a full 30min session.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1933838]Some girls would spit it on there tits, if you ask nicely. Swallow is extra, in addition CIM, if they agree. Syzy; sperm kiss is also extra. I am not sure what happens if she allows you to swallow, LOL.[/QUOTE]Nope, I am definitely not into consuming bodily waste products, including sperm. I have been known to spit out pussy substances too. I am also not into trying to get girls to swallow. Completely their choice. I am not too "porn movie" brainwashed either, so I guess I am a very conservative customer, looking for beauty, eroticism, sexiness, and other basics, hopefully things that girls can enjoy too, if possible, or at least tolerate easily. I never ask the girl for her ass, and close to 99% of them do not offer it either. Last one to offer me her ask was Diana (DomR) probably 18 months ago, and that was because I was having some problems to fuck her pussy (very very tight at the time). LOL.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1934279]Usually they do. After they swallowed for free and licked my dick and balls clean.
HB.
PS: in Hessen they charge 50 extra for CIM. Nobody forces them to do it. But it's good money, same as for a full 30min session.[/QUOTE]At Oase, many girls try to have 10 mn room for 50+50 finishing in mouth, without fucking, but many of my FKK regulars ask me to say to them before cumming in mouth, and I prefer to fuck them, eyes in eyes, then I can see how they love me.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1934225]True, so dicks don't go deeply, to show us dick entering in vagina or ass, girls get cum on face or tongue to show us cum, for those who don t know how work a dick which end cumming. Just a show, not sex.
.[/QUOTE]Will change in future with in-mouth - , in-pussy - , and in-ass camera at porno movies. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1934305]Atand I prefer to fuck them, eyes in eyes, then I can see how they love me.[/QUOTE]They'd love you even more if you came in their mouth and paid 50€ more.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1934305]At Oase, many girls try to have 10 mn room for 50+50 finishing in mouth, without fucking, but many of my FKK regulars ask me to say to them before cumming in mouth, and I prefer to fuck them, eyes in eyes, then I can see how they love me.[/QUOTE]That's hilarious considering how far from the truth it is.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1934400]They'd love you even more if you came in their mouth and paid 50 more.
HB.[/QUOTE]And even more if you fuck them in the ass and pay 100 e more, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Kliens;1934148]Ah, allow me to clarify: I don't really care if they spit or swallow, as long as I'm actually IN their mouth when I finish. What I meant by "porn" is the type of porn scene cum shot where the girl opens her mouth wide, sticks out her tongue, and jacks the guy off into her mouth. It may look impressive, but it doesn't feel as good to me. Hadn't experienced that anywhere else, but was told by girls that was the standard at both Oase and Mainhattan.[/QUOTE]I hate it when the girl start working your dick like that pretending to be a pornstar, moaning at the same time. Big turn off. Doesn't make sense to moan when I'm not even touching her.
Hell, I don't even like watching that kind of porn.
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Visited Sharks, Mainhattan and about gave up on FKK (since I prefer AO) - however took the chance today and went out to Oase. Glad I did!
Took the S5 to the end, pretty easy since I've been taking the S2 to Dietzenbach. However there's a few tickets available to the end of the line S5. One costs around $4. 50 and the other $8. I grabbed the $4 and hoped I was doing the right thing. Wouldn't get busted for 60 e fine.
$10 taxi ride from station / $11 on way back. Plenty of taxis waiting.
Older German lady sat beside me on way out an bemoaned the changes in Germany. All the Syrians, as we watched 4 cops chasing some immigrant-looking folks around one of the stops. She was quite vocal even tho we were surrounded by the folks she was upset by. Seems like the last few stops before Oase have been undergoing 'gentrification' ehm.
Walking into Oase was great. Better than walking into Disney as a kid. Huge blowups of nude ladies with all their bits showing. Inside wasn't as impressed. Thought Sharks had a better layout and for sure Shark's outdoor area rocks compared to Oase.
I did like the kino better at Oase, and all the winding halls. At the end of the day I (for some reason) preferred Oase for mongering and Sharks for chilling and healthy dose of eye candy.
Girls:
Without a doubt Sharks had more stunners, but Oase had more girls, and they tended to be a bit more slutty. Also a bit more aggressive salesmanship. I took a new girl (new to Oase not new to the scene) - Fantastic long blowjob in room, (like licking ice cream. That happened to be her fave flavor), 30 m = 50 e, I didn't tip.
Took her again for an hour a bit later, thinking we would sit by pool and get down in the tents but it didn't work like that. Instead she smoked 2 cigarettes inside and went to the room. A repeat performance. She didn't like dining at why cause I have goatee, and she kept one hand down covering her clit I assume to protect her bits and prolong their longevity thru a long day of pounding. Still her BJ was awesome and body rocking.
Did a BJ from a blonde girl in the Kino. She really worked hard changing up the positions, but just couldn't cross with various people giving the eyeball (or my perception).
Total- $270. Got off lightly I think. Would he easy to blow 500+ in Oase and have fun.
One negative note was an older guy (VIP), he brought along a younger friend and I guess friend was drunk. They were all playing in pool. Then younger dude (now out of pool) dipped his head between the legs of a gal and picked her up on his shoulders, she shouted 'no, not here, not here' twice to him. Since they were over the ground but he ignored her. He promptly walked over to pool and tried to dump her in the pool but she landed on the side of the pool on her spine. Fuck! There's like a 1" metal rim that runs around the pool and she landed dead on it. I was thinking she broke her spine, at least some ribs.
She looked miserable, was in the pool crying for quite a while, then they moved her to a lounge chair. Eventually brought her ice before taking her off inside. She should have been taken to the hospital immediately for X rays.
The young guy was kind of a dick. He came over to the table and said 'she'll be okay, she'll probably take a rest and be back out in a few hours' - he just fucked her shit up and she won't be working for a week (weeks) at least. All cause he was being a dork and treating the girls like playthings instead of humans. (sigh).
I don't know what makes a VIP at Oase, I see they have a closed off area. Anyone know?
I'm not a fan of condoms, I just can't cross. I prefer bareback and then pull out and cum on stomach or tits. (plus I'm snipped) This works well in Asia but not here. Anyway. Gave it try today and had a good time. Would recommend anyone coming to FRA to hit Oase and Sharks and give them a try. The girls were great eye-candy.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1934400]They'd love you even more if you came in their mouth and paid 50 more.
HB.[/QUOTE]So, I badly choose my girls because most ask me not to cum in their mouth, not my fantasy.
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CIM can be exciting, yes. I like it when the girl continuously work it with her tongue even after I shoot (one girl licked it all off, which was excitin. Hehe.). If she's got her mouth wrapped up, and you shoot, that's different.
One girl I was with recently took it in, and pulled her head up, and she made visibly aware she was swallowing. I looked at her with wonderment. LOL. Caught me by surprise since I had not asked her to swallow as it's no biggie. Cool of her, nonetheless.
Yeah, fake moaning doesn't turn me on. Like the obvious fake PSE crap like girl rubbing her pussy and moaning.
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Yeah I hate that porno fakery too. What I do is immediately stop, wag my finger a little bit, and then calmly say "no Hollywood, no Hollywood. " I say it that way because it's quick and most girls get it even if they barely speak English. Inevitably when we start up again after a bit there will be those quieter but involuntary little grunts I want to hear.
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ElephantBeer: I missed the fall of that girl, but I was told she couldn't breeth if she moved just a little bit. They tried to put ice on her spine as well when I came out... Didn't look good at all. One thing is to be silly and play like that. The guy seemed to have money (or his boss did), but someone at the club needs to get real and take charge and get an ambulance no matter what the girls say. Trying to walk out like that is stupid. She should lay down right away.
LU was a bit down from late July, but it was ok. I do agree Sharks LU this week is a bit above Oase LU.
Missing girls from July were May, Chayenne, Adelle (the short one, not the tall Adelle as she was there), Cami, Mira, Ellie, Emma (at sharks now).
Only additions since last that I liked was Raissa (new at Oase) and Sarah (not new to the club).
Some other girls around were: Laura, Denise, Antonia, Deborah (now with crazy curls), Carla (with black hair), Amina (with Deniz tatoo), Vera, that dominican girl etc.
There were actually tons of new girls around. Probably 15 or so. But most were just 4-6s I felt... so didnt feel good in regards to the club if the LU is on its way down. In terms of numbers it was good. But that doesnt matter if most are just fillers...
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[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;1934471]
I don't know what makes a VIP at Oase, I see they have a closed off area. Anyone know?.[/QUOTE]To become VIP there you need only some money spending at club.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1934599]ElephantBeer: I missed the fall of that girl, but I was told she couldn't breeth if she moved just a little bit. They tried to put ice on her spine as well when I came out... Didn't look good at all. One thing is to be silly and play like that. The guy seemed to have money (or his boss did), but someone at the club needs to get real and take charge and get an ambulance no matter what the girls say. Trying to walk out like that is stupid. She should lay down right away.[/QUOTE]It was a truly miserable fall, imagine being body-slammed from over 6' onto a 1" flat metal rail. On your spine and ribs.
I surely hope they got her to the hospital. For those kinds of injuries sooner is always better than later. She surely didn't deserve it. The 3 security guys looked like a bad cartoon, talking into radio but doing nothing. Does no-one care about the girls? Free healthcare here. No?
The VIP guy appeared to have bought 3 bottles of Veuve (didn't finish one of them) so $400 e meh (but one of the girls told me he was there yesterday as well) - I don't care what he spent it wasn't worth the damage. It wasn't just 'one of those things' that happen, nor 'boys being boys' - the kid was an arrogant jerk and I felt he was over-compensating from being a small guy (primarily) and (hypothetically) in the company of the 'rich' dude.
Ruined much the day for me. Such a careless waste.
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2 visits in 3 days
Went here with a fellow monger that I ran into (Saturday and Monday). First time at this FKK and I love it. Most girls upsell on kissing (DFK) and DATY but most will do it for an hour apt. There was this big natural breasted brunette that was half Italian (father's side) and half Romanian (mother's) that was much paler than the other girls there. I wish I remembered her name (if someone can recall, that would be great) but I had the best time with her in Oase. Wish she showed up earlier on Monday but she showed just before I had to leave for the airport and did not get a chance to repeat. Maybe will get to see her in the future (whenever that is). Overall Saturday was much better than Monday (limited girls in the early-mid afternoon) and also weather was better on Sat. And plenty of outside lounging around.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1934191]Not Russian, beautiful face and ass, but bad silicon, I hate silicon and lies about where they come from, they should be proud of their origins.[/QUOTE]Yep, she is very good looking IMO as well. She speaks Romanian with her friends. She 100% Romanian. Maybe she thinks that if she will claim to be Russian, it will render her unique / more appealing as compared to the Romanian majority.
Another tale of Oase: Laura (Blonde, skinny, furniture) took a sweet Asian boy to the room for 100 minutes (no extras) and charged him 500 Euro. Oase girls are greedy. Be careful newbies, LOL.
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[QUOTE=ElephantBeer;1934471]Visited Sharks, Mainhattan and about gave up on FKK (since I prefer AO) - however took the chance today and went out to Oase. Glad I did!
Took the S5 to the end, pretty easy since I've been taking the S2 to Dietzenbach. However there's a few tickets available to the end of the line S5. One costs around $4. 50 and the other $8. I grabbed the $4 and hoped I was doing the right thing. Wouldn't get busted for 60 e fine.
$10 taxi ride from station / $11 on way back. Plenty of taxis waiting.
Older German lady sat beside me on way out an bemoaned the changes in Germany. All the Syrians, as we watched 4 cops chasing some immigrant-looking folks around one of the stops. She was quite vocal even tho we were surrounded by the folks she was upset by. Seems like the last few stops before Oase have been undergoing 'gentrification' ehm.
Walking into Oase was great. Better than walking into Disney as a kid. Huge blowups of nude ladies with all their bits showing. Inside wasn't as impressed. Thought Sharks had a better layout and for sure Shark's outdoor area rocks compared to Oase...[/QUOTE]Define VIP's: Pay a lot? Come a lot? Come once a year and get a bottle? People that make too much noise and don't spend that much?
The kid was a bad kid or an asshole, but just reckless and irresponsible, sitting after and just looking without knowing what to do. At the end, she was cleared and everyone kept partying. Roxana, is the girl. Yes, she couldn't get enough air. Let's hope she is fine. Oase must have some procedures in place to protect the paying customers. The girls are also paying customers and what if this would be a male client? The security guys seemed to be the only people to show concern and really cared about her. I heard people at the reception saying that she doesn't want a hospital or an ambulance. Totally negligent! No one cares. This girl is probably here all alone and the club must assume responsibility!
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Wow, assuming that story is accurate, I guess it is fine in Germany for some random person to physically assault and maim another person and walk away Scot free? How is that possible? Intentional or not, it sounds like he really hurt her badly, and no charges were pressed?
Sounds worse than a third world dump.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1934540]Yeah I hate that porno fakery too. What I do is immediately stop, wag my finger a little bit, and then calmly say "no Hollywood, no Hollywood. " I say it that way because it's quick and most girls get it even if they barely speak English. Inevitably when we start up again after a bit there will be those quieter but involuntary little grunts I want to hear.[/QUOTE]I actually prefer total submission to porno fakery. For me a girl can be a starfish and I can still have an enjoyable experience with her. I find sexual chemistry to be quite mysterious. About six years ago I sessioned with a girl at Oase named Cassandra who has never been reported here. She was half African American, half German. She was cold as ice in the zimmer and refused me DATY; however, I really enjoyed banging her. On subsequent visits she would not even acknowledge me and mostly kept to herself. I would have done her again but felt obligated not to because of her icey attitude.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1934599]ElephantBeer: I missed the fall of that girl, but I was told she couldn't breeth if she moved just a little bit. They tried to put ice on her spine as well when I came out... Didn't look good at all. One thing is to be silly and play like that. The guy seemed to have money (or his boss did), but someone at the club needs to get real and take charge and get an ambulance no matter what the girls say. Trying to walk out like that is stupid. She should lay down right away.
[/QUOTE]That is so fucked up. I'm really disappointed in Oase that they didn't call an ambulance. That's downright recklessly careless to not call an ambulance in that type of situation.
This sounds really scary. Does anyone have an update on the poor girl's condition?
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1934736]Define VIP's: Pay a lot? Come a lot? Come once a year and get a bottle? People that make too much noise and don't spend that much?
The kid was a bad kid or an asshole, but just reckless and irresponsible, sitting after and just looking without knowing what to do. At the end, she was cleared and everyone kept partying. Roxana, is the girl. Yes, she couldn't get enough air. Let's hope she is fine. Oase must have some procedures in place to protect the paying customers. The girls are also paying customers and what if this would be a male client? The security guys seemed to be the only people to show concern and really cared about her. I heard people at the reception saying that she doesn't want a hospital or an ambulance. Totally negligent! No one cares. This girl is probably here all alone and the club must assume responsibility![/QUOTE]When the safety / life / health status of a girl or man is on the table no internal procedure will be above German federal laws which are quite clear, the life of the girl is the number one priority and all the staff members and customers have to do their maximum (calling the police, the ambulance, Notartz.) to help her if not they can face some very serious issues, it is really not a joke we have to take it seriously.
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Maybe now is appropriate for me to say why I never go to Oase. I have heard so many bad things about the owner that I can't in all conscience go in. It would be no surprise for a girl to be assaulted and no action taken. I compare this to World and Golden Time where I have seen Security act speedily.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1934992]Maybe now is appropriate for me to say why I never go to Oase. I have heard so many bad things about the owner that I can't in all conscience go in. It would be no surprise for a girl to be assaulted and no action taken. I compare this to World and Golden Time where I have seen Security act speedily.[/QUOTE]Your choice of clubs as exemplary alternatives is odd. World is known for a high HA's presence. Indeed, several of my favorite girls in the past refuse to even consider going there on account of the obvious constant HA presence there.
As for GT, I avoid due to the lack of showers for the girls (none in their locker room I mean). Guys are jizzing all over these girls and they can't even install a shower in the girls locker room? Plus, I don't like their rule prohibiting under 21 Romanians. On top of that, their prevalence of gaytime is downright annoying (that is, excessively long room waits due to unfavorable ratios commonly occurring during certain times of the week).
I don't wish to start a debate regarding these aspects of World and GT -- This is the Oase thread after all, not the World and GT thread -- I just find this choice of ideal Oase alternatives odd -- that's all.
I suppose in the end, we all have our favorite clubs for our own particular reasons. Yes, every club has its own merits and disadvantages. It's too bad there's no one club with all the advantages and none of the downsides.
In any case, I hope the injured girl recovers well and soon. It's unfortunate that girls end up having to work with so many stupid drunk guys.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1934992]Maybe now is appropriate for me to say why I never go to Oase. I have heard so many bad things about the owner that I can't in all conscience go in. It would be no surprise for a girl to be assaulted and no action taken. I compare this to World and Golden Time where I have seen Security act speedily.[/QUOTE]Hmm sorry in this point I disagree especially with your comparison between Oase and World about this point. I've never heard a really bad story at Oase, even the opposite Mauro offers help if one of his girls need protection. Even in small things he protects his girls for instance he relinquish of some extra profit from gambling machines, he doesn't want his girls addicted with this.
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Apparently the girl was asked if she needed an ambulance and she said 'no, she didn't want more fuzz', or something along those lines. I do believe another regular client I talked to called an ambulance though.
Still standardised rules should allways be applied in these situations. For the safety of the girls.
When it comes to Oase, the club seems to have gotten a bit too much unfavorable posts lately. Too much I feel as it isn't half as bad. Sure there are tourists easily tricked into overpaying. Perhaps asians especially, but this goes for most clubs I feel. And there won't be any less tourists in the future. Unless those new regulations ruins it next summer.
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Craiova and Pistons and Ultrahappy. Fair points. I only commented from personal experience and secondhand stories and don't say as a fact that other clubs are necessarily better. I am often asked why I don't go to Oase, and so I commented for the first and last time.
UltraHappy. Yes, you are right, I know some very bad, and good, things about former HA leader at World. I was just commenting on what I know happened when on several occasions, a visitor is bad with a girl and there was a good security and care for girl response from the club.
Maybe I should have left the subject alone. But it is good to hear some positive comment about Mauro
UltraHappy. I wasn't suggesting GT is better for a visitor. In fact, I don't like it. I was just commenting on the Security response
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1934715]
Another tale of Oase: Laura (Blonde, skinny, furniture) took a sweet Asian boy to the room for 100 minutes (no extras) and charged him 500 Euro. Oase girls are greedy. Be careful newbies, LOL.[/QUOTE]That is such a bad tale. This sort of negative behavior puts off visitors. Yes, Laura benefits and gets a jackpot windfall but is short termist with guys not coming back or become irate when they realise they have been duped perpetuating the bad reputation of the club. Some girls are really only in this for themselves and do not consider the consequences citing that all the other girls do the sayme or say that this is the correct price for their services. 50 euro is not enough in their minds.
suffice to add that Laura has been doing this trick for years asking for a lot more than the session is worth by inflating the time and claiming extras that are not extras compared to if she had applied the standard tariff. Laura also tends to ask for presents of cash and tips too.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1935177]Some girls are really only in this for themselves and do not consider the consequences citing that all the other girls do the sayme or say that this is the correct price for their services. 50 euro is not enough in their minds.[/QUOTE]Sure they are in this for themselves. Why should they bother about the other girls? I'm fine with her overcharging a tourist / newbie as long as I have great sessions with her for 50 or 100 EUR (standard price). And I do. So I am happy there are tourists / big spenders subsidizing my pricing. LOL.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1935177]suffice to add that Laura has been doing this trick for years asking for a lot more than the session is worth by inflating the time and claiming extras that are not extras compared to if she had applied the standard tariff.[/QUOTE]And sometimes her sister shouts to her advice on whether the customer is a gullible newbie! I have heard such shouting across the pool twice before; the girl I was with translated it for me.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935223]Sure they are in this for themselves. Why should they bother about the other girls? I'm fine with her overcharging a tourist / newbie as long as I have great sessions with her for 50 or 100 EUR (standard price). And I do. So I am happy there are tourists / big spenders subsidizing my pricing. LOL.
HB.[/QUOTE]That's why I encourage & promote tipping as it also subsidizes my pricing!
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1934931]When the safety / life / health status of a girl or man is on the table no internal procedure will be above German federal laws which are quite clear, the life of the girl is the number one priority and all the staff members and customers have to do their maximum (calling the police, the ambulance, Notartz.) to help her if not they can face some very serious issues, it is really not a joke we have to take it seriously.[/QUOTE]Not a joke at all. I find it unsettling that a girl is injured and no one knows what to do. Regardless of laws, helping is the human thing to do.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935223]Sure they are in this for themselves. Why should they bother about the other girls? I'm fine with her overcharging a tourist / newbie as long as I have great sessions with her for 50 or 100 EUR (standard price). And I do. So I am happy there are tourists / big spenders subsidizing my pricing. LOL.
HB.[/QUOTE]No is subsidizing your sex. This behavior in the long run has consequences for the club. Many girls at Oase only go with tourist or Asian. Other girls follow. Look at Palace years back and today. This behavior is not good for anyone.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935223]Sure they are in this for themselves. Why should they bother about the other girls? I'm fine with her overcharging a tourist / newbie as long as I have great sessions with her for 50 or 100 EUR (standard price). And I do. So I am happy there are tourists / big spenders subsidizing my pricing. LOL.
HB.[/QUOTE]I would vote further; why not prepare here a list of the girl to stay away from in every club (the greedy, upselling, problems by lockers when paying, multiple reception issues). Maybe twist their arm in to better behavior / service.
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The problem with that is that some of those girls actually does do great service to some of us even if their reputation is bad. So rooting them out completely could make some of my / and other visitors favourites leave since their income could fall. Ymmv...
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1935289]No is subsidizing your sex. This behavior in the long run has consequences for the club. Many girls at Oase only go with tourist or Asian. Other girls follow. Look at Palace years back and today. This behavior is not good for anyone.[/QUOTE]Girls with that kind of behavior have been around in many clubs also 10 of 12 years ago. As long as they do differentiate between local regulars and newbie tourists I'm fine. Some can. Some stupid ones can't.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935409]Girls with that kind of behavior have been around in many clubs also 10 of 12 years ago. As long as they do differentiate between local regulars and newbie tourists I'm fine. Some can. Some stupid ones can't.
HB.[/QUOTE]I will not disagree, but the numbers are far greater today than back then. Oase is the extreme case from all clubs. IMO.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1934715]Yep, she is very good looking IMO as well. She speaks Romanian with her friends. She 100% Romanian. Maybe she thinks that if she will claim to be Russian, it will render her unique / more appealing as compared to the Romanian majority.
Another tale of Oase: Laura (Blonde, skinny, furniture) took a sweet Asian boy to the room for 100 minutes (no extras) and charged him 500 Euro. Oase girls are greedy. Be careful newbies, LOL.[/QUOTE]Anya claims to be Russian, but blond Roxana or even Suginella, even Romanians, are better in room, not only a pretty face and beautiful ass robot.
On first time I saw Laura Livia at the bar at Sharks on February 2014, she was with Isabella, so I chose Isabella and I still meet Isabella now. Laura and Juicy are smiling and friendly to chat, but not pretty face enough for my tastes, so can't say about their behavior in room, even often saw them at Sharks for Laura and Oase for both.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935409]Girls with that kind of behavior have been around in many clubs also 10 of 12 years ago. As long as they do differentiate between local regulars and newbie tourists I'm fine. Some can. Some stupid ones can't.
HB.[/QUOTE]What was the percentage of newbie tourists 10-12 years ago? Went from probably 3% to 25%. Last few times at Oase, I heard almost no German being spoken, aside from a few regulars.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1935392]The problem with that is that some of those girls actually does do great service to some of us even if their reputation is bad. So rooting them out completely could make some of my / and other visitors favourites leave since their income could fall. Ymmv...[/QUOTE]They will not go anywhere. They love money too much and let us not forget even if they make 300 a day, that is a lot of money. The will not go anywhere even for 200 a day. That is 5000 a month, which is what day make in half a back home. Plus, many of them have husbands, kids, pimps and what not to sponsor. Also, you don't out them, but make a note to be aware and ask the right questions. I bet that if our Asian Colleague had read previously that Laura is a cheater, he would not fall into that trap. The warning is not about not going with these girls, it is about doing proper negotiation before going with them. We like them, but it will not hurt to educate them. You even have to discipline your children every once in a while when they go astray. IMO. So, this is about transparency and free and equal information to all market participants. Think of it as the efficient markets theory only applied at FKK.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1935431]I will not disagree, but the numbers are far greater today than back then. Oase is the extreme case from all clubs. IMO.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Danny227. At Oase, there are more girls seeking to dupe a customer for whatever they can get from them. Laura is a prime example of one of those, and Juicy too if she is inducing her sister to fool the customers as well.
There is a predominance of girls now thinking that a 50 euro session is beneath them such that girls will do what they can to milk the session for more than 50 euro by up selling extra services or withholding services like DFK or DATY unless extra is paid.
This behavior makes me reluctant to return to Oase which is a shame as I have three more prepaid entry cards still to use up for Oase.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935223]Sure they are in this for themselves. Why should they bother about the other girls? I'm fine with her overcharging a tourist / newbie as long as I have great sessions with her for 50 or 100 EUR (standard price). [/QUOTE]Danny227 seems to address the short term and self centered view that you prescribe in his quote below.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1935289]No is subsidizing your sex. This behavior in the long run has consequences for the club. Many girls at Oase only go with tourist or Asian. Other girls follow. Look at Palace years back and today. This behavior is not good for anyone.[/QUOTE]To reiterate Danny227, allowing girls to just be in this for themselves does not in the long run benefit the punters. Eventually, with this attitude spreading to the wider group of girls, then actual prices as opposed to official prices will be higher as extras are built into tariffs such as extra for kissing, and extra for pussy licking as opposed to the standard extras of anal and come in mouth.
Further if the tourist market is starved off since they are not happy with being cheated on prices, who then will be continuing to keep the clubs buoyant? The same guys that attend the cheap entry days at World and Sharks?
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Well said bitumen. I just saw a few 'tourists' this past week spend between 2000 and 3000 euro in one night at a few FKK's. I never see locals do the same. Perhaps bar the VIP groups that puts it on their company tabs. And these 3 tourists I saw that spent that much didn't get cheated either. They just had money to spend and not as much time as the locals. But give the tourists the idea that they get cheated and they won't return next year. (At least one of whom is a ghost reader here at isg too)
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After attending sharks on Friday and Saturday, I trudged up to Oase on Sunday. I rented my room close to Sharks, so Oase was a long drive, especially coming back late in the night. I would not have minded going to Sharks for 3 days in a row. But the lineup was somewhat disappointing, and I missed some of my fav girls. The parking situation was clearly a factor, and all the horror stories about sausage celebrations. I had initially expected to be busy with someone the whole day but that plan fell through due to some logistical issues last min.
In recent past, Sharks had been my top club, but I was pleasantly surprised with Oase. I thought the girls quality was better, especially given It was Sunday. I liked the new kino setup, that whole hall feels a bit more wider and less boxed in. Although still too dim and gloomy. The outdoor food facility was good. I was a bit pissed that they took off the paid pizza off the menu, but that's a small gripe.
Most importantly, there must have been 50/60 girls. Not bad for a Sunday. If I know the names of only a third of girls at Sharks, I know far fewer at Oase. Even the faces are new. Some girls I chatted with are below.
Antonia.
Aida.
Adele.
Hadina.
Evelyn.
Becky.
Tanya.
Cleo.
Claudia.
Vicky.
Maya.
Cheyenne.
Helena.
Sasha.
Raissa.
Michelle.
Laura.
There were a couple of Asian girls, one said half Thai and half Rom, forgot her name. Another who looked more fully Asian. Never got her name. Both looked cute.
In general, girls were pretty decent. I think the average quality was better than at Sharks. And the service was definitely not bad at all. Certainly no worse than Sharks whatsoever. OK, you can say that's a small sample but it is also a random sample.
I tried the last four girls on the list.
Sasha. She was in Spain I think for a few months and only recently moved to Oase. Romanian, 25, small piercing above right lip and a couple of tats on left hand down the leg, one has her boy's name in there. Tied her hair in the back into a pony tail. Small tits, and probably 165-170 cm. Nice smiling face. She is not a knock out, probably 7 on face and 8 on body. But wow, what service, she is absolutely willing to go the last mile to please her man. Gave me a quick blow job on the kino couch and went to the room for an hour. Began kissing me passionately, and I gave in, she was the 5th girl so far in my FKK like to have done DFK. Absolutely fabulous experience in one hour, and I finished or else I would have gone longer. Told her that she should look me up a bit later for an encore, and she came back to me smiling again, after less than 40 min as I was sitting in kino, and this time we went to the garden. The curtained chalets were a bit gloomy, so we moved to the far end and did in the open bed with a little umbrella top. Another hour of fabulous sex, although I could not finish - 3rd straight of FKK'ing is a bit too much these days for me. There were a few guys and one or two naked club girls playing volleyball less than 20 feet from us, while we fucked away blithely and blissfully ignorant of them. If someone had told me when I was growing up that such a thing could happen, I would have thought them nuts, but here I was. As if it was the most natural thing to do in the world. What a life. I think my work here is done.
Raissa. I vaguely remember reading reviews of this girl, and don't remember if they were good or bad. She had hit upon me early in the day but I was not interested. She approached me again, and this time I said yes. Truth be told, I knew I was not ready but it was my last club day and I wanted to sample as many girls as possible. She provided pretty decent service, including some nice BLS, but after 15 to 20 min, my man started going soft, and I just gave up. Not her fault however. She said she was 30 and she looks pretty good for her age.
Michelle. Another Romanian. Said she is 25, and has been at Oase for 2 years. Surprised I never saw her before. Her face to me, hands down, the prettiest in the 3 days of this trip, between Sharks and Oase. Body is not bad either, nice tits, and a curvy body but I prefer the Aurelia, younger Roxanna types. But by god, Michelle had a truly beautiful face for me, I have to say 9 or 9.5 on face. She volunteered that she does not do any kissing or other things unless extra money is paid, and I said fine not an issue. Minimal blow job, and she began riding cowgirl, first normal then reverse, and then some mish and doggie. Pretty intense fucking for 20,25 min, but no finish unfortunately. She is not one to admit defeat however, and took some hand lotion and removed the condom, and brought me to a climax. She said "I don't know why you go into rooms thinking it is not to finish, but for me that's not acceptable, and I won't let my man leave w / o finishing".
Last girl was Laura. A new one to Oase, she claimed. Half Rom, half Italian. Really big girl, at least 6 foot tall, and massive natural tits. Got to be D4. My natural specs are petite, small natural tit girls, and I normally reject girls like Laura, out of hand, with extreme prejudice LOL. But something about this girl was endearing. She is just 20 and talks like a small kid, and her English is not so good either. And I had no business being in the club, my dick was tired and sex was not pleasurable anymore but I am a greedy bastard after all, and my next trip is several months away. So, I succumbed to her charms, and we went. She did kiss me on lips voluntarily and DFK is on the cards for folks interested. I asked her to give a slow blow job, and she did do so, really really well. We tried a short cowgirl sex as well, but aborted that after 5 min, and she gave me another slow BJ, and we called it a day.
Thus ended my 3 day trip, one day shorter than my normal trips. Oase Sunday made up for disappointment at Sharks. 11 sessions in 3 days. I used to set a budget of 2000 euro per trip, and brought it down to 1500-1700 and on this trip, just barely made past the thousand mark. Even just 3 years ago, was doing 15-20 sessions in 4 days, now even 11 sessions in 3 days seemed like a chore. The declining productivity is quite depressing to be honest.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1935293]I would vote further; why not prepare here a list of the girl to stay away from in every club (the greedy, upselling, problems by lockers when paying, multiple reception issues). Maybe twist their arm in to better behavior / service.[/QUOTE]That will never happen, nor will it work.
First, there is no universal agreement on who is a bad service provider. Many people think Janine provides weak service but there are some who think she is OK, yours truly among them.
Secondly, for understandable reasons, guys are happier to provide positive reviews and less so on providing neg reviews. And many regulars have openly admitted that they need to be careful about what they write, because their identity is somewhat blown already. Who wants to go out in the open, and forcefully argue that a specific girl is so bad, that she has to be placed on some "stay away warning list"?
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High spenders are fine and are a bonus for girls and as HB says, help keep girls happy with their bread and butter locals.
Widespread cheating is a different matter. If successful it can spread and make girls unhappy with 50 euro sessions, since honest girls might feel they are being stupid. This is especially when the girls are from one country and can enforce new norms easily.
It is already the norm for girls to try to get a little bit extra by being creative on timekeeping: they very often tell me the small things they do with what they consider not nice customers. These same girls will however give a little extra time for customers they like so on balance they are keeping to the rules.
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I'd prefer a situation were all girls gave great passionate service including DFK, BBBJ, FIP and sex for 50/30 min. But this is a phantasy, it's not happening, it never happened. There's more and more inexperienced tourists in the clubs, willing to overpay as they get less service for higher price with non european girls in their home countries. They are ruining the FKK scene. The girls happily take their money, some of them even specialize in easy clients spending big money. Don't know how high the percentage of ISG readers is between FKK visitors, my estimate would be below 10%. So warnings have little effect. That's the current situation.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1935453]Anya claims to be Russian, but blond Roxana or even Suginella, even Romanians, are better in room, not only a pretty face and beautiful ass robot.
On first time I saw Laura Livia at the bar at Sharks on February 2014, she was with Isabella, so I chose Isabella and I still meet Isabella now. Laura and Juicy are smiling and friendly to chat, but not pretty face enough for my tastes, so can't say about their behavior in room, even often saw them at Sharks for Laura and Oase for both.[/QUOTE]I agree. I have had good fortune with Romanian gals, but, also, whether she is Russian or Romanian is not a consideration in the room decision. A weighted average of service and optics are the two main criteria, assuming cleanliness of course.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935651]I'd prefer a situation were all girls gave great passionate service including DFK, BBBJ, FIP and sex for 50/30 min. But this is a phantasy, it's not happening, it never happened. There's more and more inexperienced tourists in the clubs, willing to overpay as they get less service for higher price with non european girls in their home countries. They are ruining the FKK scene. The girls happily take their money, some of them even specialize in easy clients spending big money. Don't know how high the percentage of ISG readers is between FKK visitors, my estimate would be below 10%. So warnings have little effect. That's the current situation.
HB.[/QUOTE]I think the percentage is higher than that. Every tourists that speaks with me mentions ISG. Everyone is doing research before travelling, including us when we go on fuck tours. Don't underestimate the power of internet information. In addition, let us not be extreme with only expecting all the services for 50 euro. 100 euro for DFK is also fair game. However, the problem is with the girls that cheat and in the room after the BJ reveal more information of what they don't do or at the end say 500 euro for 2 hours. If a girl states outside the room the true cost and service, that is at least fair and is not considered cheating. We do not have to buy the service, but putting us in the predicament after the session of choosing let make a big deal and go to reception or lets pay some extra and save the embarrassment. I can't count how many times in my last visit in Oase I see the girls receive money and say what? This is too little. You have to give me more and please what is with my present.
The cheaters do not deserve common courtesy.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1935640]Widespread cheating is a different matter. If successful it can spread and make girls unhappy with 50 euro sessions, since honest girls might feel they are being stupid. This is especially when the girls are from one country and can enforce new norms easily.
It is already the norm for girls to try to get a little bit extra by being creative on timekeeping: they very often tell me the small things they do with what they consider not nice customers. These same girls will however give a little extra time for customers they like so on balance they are keeping to the rules.[/QUOTE]Optimist, would you believe that Laura said thise exact words of "she would be stupid not to ask for more" when asked about charging excessively for services or anything she could get away with from customers and it did not matter if you were local or not. Some would argue Laura is just bring thr perfect capitalist but this approach of only being in this for themselves does not in my mind gel with HB's notion that all girls charge a standard fee for a perfect service since invariably in an opportunist system there is variation in delivery of service as providers know that they can differentiate and charge extra for different things or just simply withhold providing them.
The consequences anyway when I talk to Laura is she constantly complains about the guys that want everything for 50 euro (where have we heard that before?) AND complains bitterly about having so few customers such that she sometimes leaves the club at 6 pm she claims as it is not worth her while.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935651]Don't know how high the percentage of ISG readers is between FKK visitors, my estimate would be below 10%. So warnings have little effect. That's the current situation.
HB.[/QUOTE]It feels like it is at about 30% for western 'tourists' perhaps. Or perhaps a little higher. (Higher for the hessen tourists) But these days it seems we are outnumberred 2:1 by the asian ones. So you might be right. And that asian group is the one that will probably grow the most in the comming years. No idea how that will turn out for the clubs.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1935667]It feels like it is at about 30% for western 'tourists' perhaps. Or perhaps a little higher. (Higher for the hessen tourists) But these days it seems we are outnumberred 2:1 by the asian ones. So you might be right. And that asian group is the one that will probably grow the most in the comming years. No idea how that will turn out for the clubs.[/QUOTE]Between the German forum and the ISG, most FKK clientele do some reading. Not all are heavy readers or posters. However, prior to any trip people check the lay of the land. In any event, to create an effect you do not need 100% of FKK clients (tourists or local irrelevant). All you need is a few girls encountering a negative response or losing a session or a few sessions because of client awareness of their foul play. Imagine the next Asian that Laura approaches saying I heard about you cheating a guy out of 500 euro, so I will not go with you. If this happens a couple of times, that can do the trick. Magnify the effect by girls communicating information to each other and that is all that is needed.
The clubs and girls are selling a product and similarly to any product, the consumer has a lot of power. I would give you the counter example to another Asian hunter, Evita. She doesn't lie or cheat, so they keep coming back to her with no problems. I never met an Asian that said she was tricking him. The club environment is meant to protect girls and provide a safe working environment as well as a safe place for customers. Girls that want to hustle, should go work in the street corner.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1935664]The consequences anyway when I talk to Laura is she constantly complains about the guys that want everything for 50 euro (where have we heard that before?) AND complains bitterly about having so few customers such that she sometimes leaves the club at 6 pm she claims as it is not worth her while.[/QUOTE]Yes, I believe. I don't know her, but you clearly can make more connections between actions and consequences than she seems to be able to.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935651]I'd prefer a situation were all girls gave great passionate service including DFK, BBBJ, FIP and sex for 50/30 min. But this is a phantasy, it's not happening, it never happened. There's more and more inexperienced tourists in the clubs, willing to overpay as they get less service for higher price with non european girls in their home countries. They are ruining the FKK scene. The girls happily take their money, some of them even specialize in easy clients spending big money. Don't know how high the percentage of ISG readers is between FKK visitors, my estimate would be below 10%. So warnings have little effect. That's the current situation.
HB.[/QUOTE]Agreed. All we can do is make it clear to girls we have expectations.
My expectations were formed many years ago in FKK, and I (and everybody else) don't need to compromise.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935651]I'd prefer a situation were all girls gave great passionate service including DFK, BBBJ, FIP and sex for 50/30 min. But this is a phantasy, it's not happening, it never happened. There's more and more inexperienced tourists in the clubs, willing to overpay as they get less service for higher price with non european girls in their home countries. They are ruining the FKK scene. The girls happily take their money, some of them even specialize in easy clients spending big money. Don't know how high the percentage of ISG readers is between FKK visitors, my estimate would be below 10%. So warnings have little effect. That's the current situation.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yes, forums, not only ISGers, are only few in FKK land, but more and more girls read, or are said for my writings, even in small Atlanta. Some of my girls even seem OK with my writings, about their business.
About girls, they know what kind of clients we are and who they can upsell or ask tips. Even on first time, even not German, even not speaking german more than bite and danke to ask for a drink, I m never asked for tip or upsell, I think even being a foreigner, just a question of behavior with girls. Then girls prefer to have us for weekly or very regular, rather than fucking us once. Katea, Kate Aca, Isabella, Megan who all have busy business, know I will have to stop for a while soon, I just have to resist for my last climbing tour 2016 , they all said this week end: Will You come again after? When? Even Anja after only 2 rooms. Girls don t behave the same and I m pretty sure the more they upsell, the less they give.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1935664]Optimist, would you believe that Laura said thise exact words of "she would be stupid not to ask for more" when asked about charging excessively for services or anything she could get away with from customers and it did not matter if you were local or not. Some would argue Laura is just bring thr perfect capitalist but this approach of only being in this for themselves does not in my mind gel with HB's notion that all girls charge a standard fee for a perfect service since invariably in an opportunist system there is variation in delivery of service as providers know that they can differentiate and charge extra for different things or just simply withhold providing them.
The consequences anyway when I talk to Laura is she constantly complains about the guys that want everything for 50 euro (where have we heard that before?) AND complains bitterly about having so few customers such that she sometimes leaves the club at 6 pm she claims as it is not worth her while.[/QUOTE]Guys,
Can want everything for 50 euros and Laura has the prerogative to say, no. If the guys goes to the room and stays 2 hours gets everything and then says, all you get is 50 euros, that is cheating. That is what Laura and her likes do. To be clear, that is wrong. Laura took that poor guy into the room under false pretense and started saying she has debt and problems and if he can help her by giving her more money than the 500 and he was only willing to pay 500.
To touch on your capitalism point, while capitalism is an economic system trade is private and owners are profit maximizing, the definition does not mention profit maximizing by means of cheating, in a capitalistic environment, one would pay fines or go to jail and at the very least lose his or her job, ask Bernie Madoff.
Everything stated in advance is fair game. We may not like it, but it is fair game. Pricing post facto which is excessive and varies from the norm, is cheating not capitalism. However, I do agree with you on most other things, smiley.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1935651]I'd prefer a situation were all girls gave great passionate service including DFK, BBBJ, FIP and sex for 50/30 min. But this is a phantasy, it's not happening, it never happened. There's more and more inexperienced tourists in the clubs, willing to overpay as they get less service for higher price with non european girls in their home countries. They are ruining the FKK scene. The girls happily take their money, some of them even specialize in easy clients spending big money. Don't know how high the percentage of ISG readers is between FKK visitors, my estimate would be below 10%. So warnings have little effect. That's the current situation.[/QUOTE]+ 1 especially the below 10 % ISG readers at German FKK clubs. Forums writing has almost zero effect to change this trend.
BTW except for fans of Asian or African girls German FKK scene is IMHO still the best, cheapest and safest place for P6 on this planet, so guys don't complain too much and allow the girls making some "good" and: fair" money.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1935905]+ 1 especially the below 10 % ISG readers at German FKK clubs. Forums writing has almost zero effect to change this trend.
BTW except for fans of Asian or African girls German FKK scene is IMHO still the best, cheapest and safest place for P6 on this planet, so guys don't complain too much and allow the girls making some "good" and: fair" money.[/QUOTE]Do you rob banks for a living or you have a very basic "state of nature" approach to fair? 500 euro. I wish you could see the face of that kid when he realized 200 was the fair price. I hope no girl makes that "fair" money on any of us.
Cheers mate.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1935905]+ 1 especially the below 10 % ISG readers at German FKK clubs. Forums writing has almost zero effect to change this trend.
BTW except for fans of Asian or African girls German FKK scene is IMHO still the best, cheapest and safest place for P6 on this planet, so guys don't complain too much and allow the girls making some "good" and: fair" money.[/QUOTE]Agree with irrelevance of ISG on pricing.
I will continue to complain about girls who cheat. Some girls who charge the correct rate and do not cheat tell me they earn between 5000 to 10000 euros profit (not gross) in a month easily, even in a minor club. This sounds like a fair income to me with no need to cheat.
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Forum writings allways affects to some degree. How to meassure it is harder.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1935947]Agree with irrelevance of ISG on pricing.
I will continue to complain about girls who cheat. Some girls who charge the correct rate and do not cheat tell me they earn between 5000 to 10000 euros profit (not gross) in a month easily, even in a minor club. This sounds like a fair income to me with no need to cheat.[/QUOTE]ISG is the main source to educate FKK consumers. Once they learn, cheating will happen a lot less. Effect pricing directly, no. You will always have girls who provide certain pleasures for more money, but that's fair game because that is not cheating. As long as everything is on the table it's cool. However, take Delia from Sharks for example, she takes you to the room with a great promise and after a 2 minute BJ says, oh I can really fuck today, my pussy hurts (so why do you think we are in the room? For me to draw on you astute insights on the Euro zone refugee strategy? She did that trick with a few clubbers I know. Or a new girl at Sharks, Stella, BJ includes licking the top and sex includes 5 cm in you push hard. For me that is cheating as well. You pay for a standard service and you get 30% of it.
Honestly, I just feel bad for that Asian kid from Oase. Personally, I have my regulars and when I try new girls, I am OK with a 50 euro mistake. Usually when I get cheated (time lies, regular extras not announced, Delia can't fuck) I let it go, but from now on, reception, here we come.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1935594]After attending sharks on Friday and Saturday, I trudged up to Oase on Sunday. I rented my room close to Sharks, so Oase was a long drive, especially coming back late in the night. I would not have minded going to Sharks for 3 days in a row. But the lineup was somewhat disappointing, and I missed some of my fav girls. The parking situation was clearly a factor, and all the horror stories about sausage celebrations. I had initially expected to be busy with someone the whole day but that plan fell through due to some logistical issues last min.
In recent past, Sharks had been my top club, but I was pleasantly surprised with Oase. I thought the girls quality was better, especially given It was Sunday. I liked the new kino setup, that whole hall feels a bit more wider and less boxed in. Although still too dim and gloomy. The outdoor food facility was good. I was a bit pissed that they took off the paid pizza off the menu, but that's a small gripe...[/QUOTE]Don't be disappointed by the number of session there is no link between quality and quantity, was also questioning myself in the last months why I am no more so exited as before until I met a German escort 21 YO in the last 2 weeks and believe me with her it was like I am 18 YO so chemistry is very important for some people including me. For me Shark was never the top of the FKK, and even I consider the LU average, some good days FKK World is far above.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1935662]I think the percentage is higher than that. Every tourists that speaks with me mentions ISG. Everyone is doing research before travelling, including us when we go on fuck tours. Don't underestimate the power of internet information. In addition, let us not be extreme with only expecting all the services for 50 euro. 100 euro for DFK is also fair game. However, the problem is with the girls that cheat and in the room after the BJ reveal more information of what they don't do or at the end say 500 euro for 2 hours. If a girl states outside the room the true cost and service, that is at least fair and is not considered cheating. We do not have to buy the service, but putting us in the predicament after the session of choosing let make a big deal and go to reception or lets pay some extra and save the embarrassment. I can't count how many times in my last visit in Oase I see the girls receive money and say what? This is too little. You have to give me more and please what is with my present.
The cheaters do not deserve common courtesy.[/QUOTE]May be you should try my advice, take a girl don t speak about money and in the room just tell thanks give me good service and I will give you 100 or 150 euros, I do this since 10 years and I was more or less never cheated, but don t look the watch you are purchasing time but service, some girl when the chemistry is fine will be very happy with you. A girl can have great pleasure with one monger but 0 with you or me so all this reports about the performance of the girls are useless for me, I respect too much the girls that is why I never give names or reports but I think for many of us what is important is the global atmosphere in a club, and not if this girl do this or this. Visited in the last 2 weeks Sakura and Paradise Saarbrucken and I had great experiences in both clubs even many of you will not go there. We are humans, the girls are humans we have to accept inconsistency this is life.
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ISGers need to make up their minds about Romanian girls and foreign male guests. On one hand, there is perpetual complaints that Romanian girls are not so good, and that more foreigners drive up prices. However, w / o Romanian girls there would be not enough girls in this many clubs at these prices, which is very obvious. Less onions but also equally true is that if there were not as many male foreigner guests, demand would have been much worse for the girls, especially given the weak economy in Germany and Europe for several years now. Certainly a lot of girls would have left the business in despair if foreigner business collapsed.
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I think people are probably overestimating the number of people reading these forums among the total attendance. Of course, no one can prove this objectively. From what I see, most people are not that tuned into these forums. Perhaps they read it to get a sense of the club scene once but I doubt they read these things on a regular basis to keep themselves informed prior to visits.
In any case, reading these forums will not prevent anyone from getting cheated. If you are naive enough to be cheated, reading a forum will hardly help. I don't know what happened to that Asian kid. But rules are easily known and prices are easily figured out. If a girl can bully a guest to pay 200 or 300 for a service for which everyone is paying 50 - well, such a person is bound to be cheated in the club or outside. I did not read the threads a whole lot prior to my first ever visit, and don't believe I was cheated in any way then or later.
And even regular reading will not help. Unless you remember so many details in your head or carry a phone and keeping checking reviews while in the club. I ran into Raissa at Oase, and I knew I had read some reviews about her but could not remember if they were positive or negative. In the end I went with her, thinking I will make my own review of her and if it turned out to be bad decision the worst that can happen is 50 bucks.
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Delia
[QUOTE=Danny227;1935966] take Delia from Sharks for example, she takes you to the room with a great promise and after a 2 minute BJ says, oh I can really fuck today, my pussy hurts[/QUOTE]Delia did that with me too, early this year. I did not mention this bad experience in my posts as I (wrongly) thought it was genuine.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1936065]ISGers need to make up their minds about Romanian girls and foreign male guests. On one hand, there is perpetual complaints that Romanian girls are not so good, and that more foreigners drive up prices. However, w / o Romanian girls there would be not enough girls in this many clubs at these prices, which is very obvious. Less onions but also equally true is that if there were not as many male foreigner guests, demand would have been much worse for the girls, especially given the weak economy in Germany and Europe for several years now. Certainly a lot of girls would have left the business in despair if foreigner business collapsed.[/QUOTE]Overseas guests comprise a larger percentage in the Hessen big-5. Those clubs would despair if foreign business collapsed. Other FKKs have less dependence and would be less impacted. I've met many Romanian WGs that spoke almost zero English--just broken German, suggesting that they do not deal regularly with overseas clientele. Majority of the 400,000 estimated WGs in Germany, do not rely on foreigner business.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1935905]+ 1 especially the below 10 % ISG readers at German FKK clubs. Forums writing has almost zero effect to change this trend.
[/QUOTE]90% of the foreigners I meet at FKK know what ISG is. But they do not read often enough to remember many FKK girls names / details.
When I went to Brazil, I only read a few pages of the Rio de Janeiro forums as "homework". Haven't visited the Rio forum since that time.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1936102]90% of the foreigners I meet at FKK know what ISG is. But they do not read often enough to remember many FKK girls names / details.
[/QUOTE]Hell, I read ISG all the time, and I sure as shit can't remember girl names who I've never been with before. The only names I ever recognize and can remember are the girls who I already know -- but then I don't need a report on those girls since I already know how they are with me. Still interesting to compare notes though. Maybe others have memory skills that are beyond my feeble capacities?
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1936100]Overseas guests comprise a larger percentage in the Hessen big-5. Those clubs would despair if foreign business collapsed. Other FKKs have less dependence and would be less impacted. I've met many Romanian WGs that spoke almost zero English--just broken German, suggesting that they do not deal regularly with overseas clientele. Majority of the 400,000 estimated WGs in Germany, do not rely on foreigner business.[/QUOTE]Was that 400,000 WG number ever verified. Or is it a McKinsey interview case study problem. How many fish are in the ocean and how many WGs in Germany, LOL. The max girls at Oase at any given time seems like 200 and multiply 5 gets us to a thousand in Hessen fkks. FKKMax. The city with the most FKK girls. I doubt that there are more than 25,000 girls between all the FKKs in Germany, as it does seem dubious that Hessen share of FKK girls in the land is less than 4%.
Perhaps most WGs work outside FKKs. As street walkers, red light districts, private escorts, etc etc. I would not know, as I have exactly zero experience in there.
In any case, I was just saying that a steep decline in foreigner flows would impact FKK girls' business, and should not generalize to all prostitution in Germany. Perhaps I should stick with what I know, which is just Sharks and Oase. And Artemis, which also seems to have a good number of foreigners when I visited.
BTW, I thought Romanian girls learn English in their schools? It is the Bulgarians who are really poor when it comes to English, based on my few interactions with them (mainly Aylice, who did become better with time).
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1936109]Was that 400,000 WG number ever verified. Or is it a McKinsey interview case study problem. How many fish are in the ocean and how many WGs in Germany, LOL. The max girls at Oase at any given time seems like 200 and multiply 5 gets us to a thousand in Hessen fkks. FKKMax. The city with the most FKK girls. I doubt that there are more than 25,000 girls between all the FKKs in Germany, as it does seem dubious that Hessen share of FKK girls in the land is less than 4%.
Perhaps most WGs work outside FKKs. As street walkers, red light districts, private escorts, etc etc. I would not know, as I have exactly zero experience in there.
In any case, I was just saying that a steep decline in foreigner flows would impact FKK girls' business, and should not generalize to all prostitution in Germany. Perhaps I should stick with what I know, which is just Sharks and Oase. And Artemis, which also seems to have a good number of foreigners when I visited.
BTW, I thought Romanian girls learn English in their schools? It is the Bulgarians who are really poor when it comes to English, based on my few interactions with them (mainly Aylice, who did become better with time).[/QUOTE]Officially there are around 600.000 prostitutes in Germany nobody knows exactly what and where they are working.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1936065]ISGers need to make up their minds about Romanian girls and foreign male guests. On one hand, there is perpetual complaints that Romanian girls are not so good, and that more foreigners drive up prices. However, w / o Romanian girls there would be not enough girls in this many clubs at these prices, which is very obvious. Less onions but also equally true is that if there were not as many male foreigner guests, demand would have been much worse for the girls, especially given the weak economy in Germany and Europe for several years now. Certainly a lot of girls would have left the business in despair if foreigner business collapsed.[/QUOTE]The economy in Germany is very good the unemployment rate is quite low, that is why many German girls don{t need to work in a FKK, they can find easily a job and had some cash by having a escort activity. Many German escort that I met will never work in a FKK club, too much sexe every day, can{t choose the customer (if you want to earn good money) and on top of them by doing escort they don{t really believe they are prostitute but working in a FKK mean for them to be a prostitute. Many German men also think the same, when they meet a escort it is not exactly meeting a prostitute.
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A Foreigner's POV
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1936065]ISGers need to make up their minds about Romanian girls and foreign male guests. On one hand, there is perpetual complaints that Romanian girls are not so good, and that more foreigners drive up prices. However, w / o Romanian girls there would be not enough girls in this many clubs at these prices, which is very obvious. Less onions but also equally true is that if there were not as many male foreigner guests, demand would have been much worse for the girls, especially given the weak economy in Germany and Europe for several years now. Certainly a lot of girls would have left the business in despair if foreigner business collapsed.[/QUOTE]Some good, interesting points being made here by the board regulars. What I don't hear is an opinion from an outlier, so here it goes. First of all, if you're a German regular and happen to see a hapless Americano in FKK being gussied up for the slaughter, try reaching out to him and give him some pointers. Maybe he'd appreciate a wingman so he doesn't fuck up a great thing in the DE land of paradise. Second, there are, I suspect, a boatload of decent foreign mongers lurking on this board, doing their best to educated about FKK protocol because we are guests in your country and we naturally wish to earn the approval of our German friends. Third, our German hosts may not be familiar with how American mongers are programmed to operate in the "hobby. " American SPs (service providers) put punters through rigorous screening to avoid LE (law enforcement) and therefore do not accept 30 min appointments. The minimum is at least 60 minutes. These longer appointments are expensive, and the SP is expected to provide GFE (girl friend experience) DATY DFK etc. This is the level of service that is expected by punters here, but everything goes "without saying," and punters just have to feel their way during the appointment (oftentimes YMMV). Therefore, when we get to FKK, we are very practiced at stretching the clock to get what we want from the appointment. I seriously doubt that you would ever see an American in his 40's or 50's doing a 30 min appointment in FKK unless the girl was awful and he decides to cut his losses. For an American, it's not a numbers game, it's the quality of the experience, and just a single, albeit long session is enough for the day. As an aside, we like the big Hessen clubs, but also like to retreat to GT for the same reasons as yourselves. LMFAO. Salut!
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1936010]May be you should try my advice, take a girl don t speak about money and in the room just tell thanks give me good service and I will give you 100 or 150 euros, I do this since 10 years and I was more or less never cheated, but don t look the watch you are purchasing time but service, some girl when the chemistry is fine will be very happy with you. A girl can have great pleasure with one monger but 0 with you or me so all this reports about the performance of the girls are useless for me, I respect too much the girls that is why I never give names or reports but I think for many of us what is important is the global atmosphere in a club, and not if this girl do this or this. Visited in the last 2 weeks Sakura and Paradise Saarbrucken and I had great experiences in both clubs even many of you will not go there. We are humans, the girls are humans we have to accept inconsistency this is life.[/QUOTE]Thank amigo, I am really good on my personal sessions front. It isn't about a personal experience that can vary, this about systematic behavior (with a certain significance level say 0. 05) regardless of how nice you are or how much money you pay. Girls who cheat will do it when you give them 200 as well because it is never enough. They will always ask more. Names should be given here for girls who cheat, obviously in a smart way. In a 250 session in Oase a couple of weeks ago, the girl almost crying in the room saying please give me more money I have car trouble and I need to fix it before I go home it will cost me 800 euro. This girl didn't cheat but was greedy, but it brings across the approach. I will not book her again even though she was a decent plus session.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1935966]
take Delia from Sharks for example, she takes you to the room with a great promise and after a 2 minute BJ says, oh I can really fuck today, my pussy hurts (so why do you think we are in the room? For me to draw on you astute insights on the Euro zone refugee strategy? She did that trick with a few clubbers I know.
Or a new girl at Sharks, Stella, BJ includes licking the top and sex includes 5 cm in you push hard. For me that is cheating as well. You pay for a standard service and you get 30% of it.
Honestly, I just feel bad for that Asian kid from Oase. Personally, I have my regulars and when I try new girls, I am OK with a 50 euro mistake. Usually when I get cheated (time lies, regular extras not announced, Delia can't fuck) I let it go, but from now on, reception, here we come.[/QUOTE]You seem unlucky at the moment, but in casino in Vegas, you will lose 99% of time, in FKK, sometimes you win, quite often for my experience, sometimes you lose, when you feel you are losing, even frustrating, stop, 50 € lost and next one to enjoy, same for regulars who change behavior. There are many friendly girls waiting for business, my only problem is too find pretty enough girls, and then to enjoy for only 50/30 mn without being upsell, I should not have the face to be upsell.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1935966] , take Delia from Sharks for example, she takes you to the room with a great promise and after a 2 minute BJ says, oh I can really fuck today, my pussy hurts [/QUOTE]This happened to me at Oase three years ago, girl did the BJ for a good ten minutes then said she couldn't fuck. Language barrier made it difficult to find out why but I think she was working on her period. I took her to the front desk after the lackluster BJ only session and the look on her face as they told her to get dressed and go home since she couldn't properly work was priceless. They did say since I was in the room such a long time getting a BJ that I owed her 20 euro's.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1936336]This happened to me at Oase three years ago, girl did the BJ for a good ten minutes then said she couldn't fuck. Language barrier made it difficult to find out why but I think she was working on her period. I took her to the front desk after the lackluster BJ only session and the look on her face as they told her to get dressed and go home since she couldn't properly work was priceless. They did say since I was in the room such a long time getting a BJ that I owed her 20 euro's.[/QUOTE]Excellent. An example to us all.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1936336]This happened to me at Oase three years ago, girl did the BJ for a good ten minutes then said she couldn't fuck. Language barrier made it difficult to find out why but I think she was working on her period. I took her to the front desk after the lackluster BJ only session and the look on her face as they told her to get dressed and go home since she couldn't properly work was priceless. They did say since I was in the room such a long time getting a BJ that I owed her 20 euro's.[/QUOTE]You are my personal hero, seriously. All I am saying is we should all follow this or tell the girls if you don't fuck you don't get paid.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1936226]You seem unlucky at the moment, but in casino in Vegas, you will lose 99% of time, in FKK, sometimes you win, quite often for my experience, sometimes you lose, when you feel you are losing, even frustrating, stop, 50 lost and next one to enjoy, same for regulars who change behavior. There are many friendly girls waiting for business, my only problem is too find pretty enough girls, and then to enjoy for only 50/30 mn without being upsell, I should not have the face to be upsell.[/QUOTE]Don't get the wrong impression, I am always lucky. I go mostly with the same girls. New girls I try recently have been somewhat disappointing, but I leave the room and run to my superstars. There is no club of the big 3 where I will be "unlucky" because of that. It just feels recently that greediness and cheating is climbing to new heights. Again, I don't recall a single problem at World. Recently at Sharks there are quite a few of those. Oase doesn't surprise me. It has been like this forever there, but Laura really screwed this guy. I felt bad for him.
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;1936151]Some good, interesting points being made here by the board regulars. What I don't hear is an opinion from an outlier, so here it goes. First of all, if you're a German regular and happen to see a hapless Americano in FKK being gussied up for the slaughter, try reaching out to him and give him some pointers. Maybe he'd appreciate a wingman so he doesn't fuck up a great thing in the DE land of paradise. Second, there are, I suspect, a boatload of decent foreign mongers lurking on this board, doing their best to educated about FKK protocol because we are guests in your country and we naturally wish to earn the approval of our German friends. Third, our German hosts may not be familiar with how American mongers are programmed to operate in the "hobby. " American SPs (service providers) put punters through rigorous screening to avoid LE (law enforcement) and therefore do not accept 30 min appointments. The minimum is at least 60 minutes. These longer appointments are expensive, and the SP is expected to provide GFE (girl friend experience) DATY DFK etc. This is the level of service that is expected by punters here, but everything goes "without saying," and punters just have to feel their way during the appointment (oftentimes YMMV). Therefore, when we get to FKK, we are very practiced at stretching the clock to get what we want from the appointment. I seriously doubt that you would ever see an American in his 40's or 50's doing a 30 min appointment in FKK unless the girl was awful and he decides to cut his losses. For an American, it's not a numbers game, it's the quality of the experience, and just a single, albeit long session is enough for the day. As an aside, we like the big Hessen clubs, but also like to retreat to GT for the same reasons as yourselves. LMFAO. Salut![/QUOTE]Of course there are 30 minute appointments. From experience! LOL. Have you checked backpage or eros or any other escort website? In the US you also don't get BBBJ, but if you think that Americans that get here don't check ISG or other forums, you are wrong. Everybody searched the internet in any fuck tour. This forum is priceless for tourists because the posters here, each with is differing and at time controversial opinion, know FKK inside out. Any piece of insight helps them. Even a tourist that visited FKK over 10-20 times has some FKK experience to handle themselves, I know quite a few. These recent postings here, which I hope are not the last, about Delia (pussy hurts constantly so can't fuck), Laura Oase (500 euro cheat), Stella new Sharks (bending pelvis so you can't fuck) and many others with Hollywood stories will help all of us, new and more experienced. Girls have clicks, why not us? Thanks ISG for the platform.
Let's hope we all keep sharing which girls we should watch out for wisely and respectfully and obviously not out of a personal grudge.
Xoxo.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1936389]Excellent. An example to us all.[/QUOTE]OK but may be this girl needs to work to pay for the chemotherapy of her father or her children are very sick. Mostly well educated girls with good family background will not have to work in a FKK, going with a girl for session is not the same as to buy a product, most of the girl are doing their best to satisfy the customer, personally I will never go to the front desk just because I respect the girls and I can also accept that some days they are not at their top.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;1936093]Delia did that with me too, early this year. I did not mention this bad experience in my posts as I (wrongly) thought it was genuine.[/QUOTE]Just a note; this is 5 people I know personally, face to face, that Delia did that and TankTank123 now makes 6. How many more? I will bet that this post will help counter Delias BS routine.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1936389]Excellent. An example to us all.[/QUOTE]I'm proud, after about 400 days in FKK, never took or been taken by any girl to desk, I never force them and usually, except Nina at Sharks, they don't try to fuck me, even they are not all top girls.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1936124]Officially there are around 600.000 prostitutes in Germany nobody knows exactly what and where they are working.[/QUOTE]I've heard about this figure. Could fit if you count weekly changing girls every week as a new girl plus you count every girl together / married with a guy more than 15 years older as a prostitute. It's deliberate propaganda. I bet after new law next year then with registered working P6 girls there are max. 200.000.
I know Hessen quite well that mean with 600.000 in total Germany for Hessen around 50.000 according population maybe due to largest german airport and the largest fair trades in Frankfurt even more. My rough guess for different girls during one year at Hessen at all clubs, in apartments, at brothels and on streets in total I see max. 17.000 and this makes for Germany in total around 200.000.
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Clodius1: It feels like american punters in their 40's and 50's are more like half way between a european and an asian. And the minimum 1 h sessions comes just as much from the fact that you have to fly so far with overpriced shitty american airlines to get to a good mongering location like Germany is now. In europe for europeans it feels more like a quick cheeseburger, or we might go for an upgraded whopper on a nice day. But something we can eat many of, than an octupal bypass burger from heart attack grill that lands you in a hospital after leaving...
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1936217]Thank amigo, I am really good on my personal sessions front. It isn't about a personal experience that can vary, this about systematic behavior (with a certain significance level say 0. 05) regardless of how nice you are or how much money you pay. Girls who cheat will do it when you give them 200 as well because it is never enough. They will always ask more. Names should be given here for girls who cheat, obviously in a smart way. In a 250 session in Oase a couple of weeks ago, the girl almost crying in the room saying please give me more money I have car trouble and I need to fix it before I go home it will cost me 800 euro. This girl didn't cheat but was greedy, but it brings across the approach. I will not book her again even though she was a decent plus session.[/QUOTE]Read between the lines. She did not earn enough and her pimp won't let her go home until she hits her quota.
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Cheeseburger Paradise
Pistons,
Yes I like your food analogy! In USA, ordering overpriced, overweight GPS ho for $400+ per hour is like ordering off the picture menu of some new restaurant. You never know what's really coming to the table until it's too late. But FKK is not like this at all, it is more like a food buffet where you can pick and choose your food after looking and smelling it firsthand before paying for it, yes? Also, you are right about crisply American airline carriers who stuff passengers in metal tube like sausages. But at least our pilots don't fly into oceans like EgyptAir or mountain sides like GermanWings. Just pop a Xanax and daydream about FKK over the pond! Cheers.
[QUOTE=Pistons;1936505]Clodius1: It feels like american punters in their 40's and 50's are more like half way between a european and an asian. And the minimum 1 h sessions comes just as much from the fact that you have to fly so far with overpriced shitty american airlines to get to a good mongering location like Germany is now. In europe for europeans it feels more like a quick cheeseburger, or we might go for an upgraded whopper on a nice day. But something we can eat many of, than an octupal bypass burger from heart attack grill that lands you in a hospital after leaving...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1936437]OK but may be this girl needs to work to pay for the chemotherapy of her father or her children are very sick. Mostly well educated girls with good family background will not have to work in a FKK, going with a girl for session is not the same as to buy a product, most of the girl are doing their best to satisfy the customer, personally I will never go to the front desk just because I respect the girls and I can also accept that some days they are not at their top.[/QUOTE]If a girl isn't able to offer the *minimum* basic services that the price involves, then she should disclose that to the customer *before* going into the room with the customer before the customer is committed to paying for less than what was bargained for.
The type of sales practice of enticing someone in the room with the expectation of certain minimum services and then charging that person for less than the minimum basic services is known as the bait-and-switch ([URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait-and-switch[/URL]). This tactic is widely recognized as unethical and downright fraudulent.
As a counterexample of this practice, in one case, I met a girl, not long ago, who couldn't work one night because her pussy was hurting because some jerk was too rough with her (another long story). She wanted to go upstairs and quit for the day but being rather new to the club, she didn't feel comfortable admitting to Reception that she was hurting and couldn't work anymore that night. So, she was just hanging out with me waiting for her shift to end, in effect giving me tons of "free time" with her. After a good while hanging out together, I suggested that we go to the room together just for BJ and kissing, so she could make some money and I could enjoy the end of the evening at the club. I had a absolutely wonderful, magical time with her but she clearly disclosed her limitations to me beforehand so I knew exactly what I was getting myself into. I even ended up giving her a good tip since I had such a good time with her. Unfortunately for all the guys out there, this sweet girl has recently quit the biz. I will miss her.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1936446]Just a note; this is 5 people I know personally, face to face, that Delia did that and TankTank123 now makes 6. How many more? I will bet that this post will help counter Delias BS routine.[/QUOTE]Good information about Delia, Stella, or Laura, even always subjective and each one his game, because some kind of clients are known to be easy to fuck and some even return to be fucked regularly. I'm pretty sure if I go to Laura at Oase, she will be so surprised, she may try for CIM but not more than club rate. If guys behave like men, they should not get upsell. Out of CIM which is a fashion service at Oase because they don t have to eat, Maria Platinum, Ina, Roxana, even Suginella never asked for more money, I even regret Suginella or Roxana never proposed me anal, in doggy, looking at their wide opened ass, but too big, no girl propose, only Anna. It at Wellcum. At, trying for 20 mn but couldn't enter, only 2 fingers, and she really tried, jumping on me, to get her 100 extra, so 240 for 1 hour.
Even when I have problems with a girl, I don t need to take her to the desk, I prefer to find a new lovely beauty, it gives me more pleasure to enjoy this new discovery.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;1936593]Read between the lines. She did not earn enough and her pimp won't let her go home until she hits her quota.[/QUOTE]Are you pussy whipped or just outright out there? For one it is bullshit! For another, it is impertinent. This is not my problem. This is a profession like any other. You get paid to do a service and if you can't do it, go home, don't work. I don't see my server begging for tips. I don't see my mechanic asking for extra, he gives me discounts, so I don't go elsewhere. I don't care about their personal problems like they don't care about mine. An exchange of goods or service for monetary benefit, dude. Please, clean the pussy juice from eyes and ears and join the real world.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1936480]I'm proud, after about 400 days in FKK, never took or been taken by any girl to desk, I never force them and usually, except Nina at Sharks, they don't try to fuck me, even they are not all top girls.[/QUOTE]I never did also, Siri. And, I have a good reputation in all clubs, but the next that fucks with me goes to the reception with my full might. Disclaimer, this does not apply to my regulars who I know by now and may have a tired day. This applies to the Laura, Delia and their friends.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1936437]OK but may be this girl needs to work to pay for the chemotherapy of her father or her children are very sick. Mostly well educated girls with good family background will not have to work in a FKK, going with a girl for session is not the same as to buy a product, most of the girl are doing their best to satisfy the customer, personally I will never go to the front desk just because I respect the girls and I can also accept that some days they are not at their top.[/QUOTE]I have never taken a girl to a front desk but nothing excuses cheating. There are easy ways to pay for chemotherapy apart from a girl cheating. Recently a girl told me she had to raise 6000 for an operation for her mother. Her solution? She worked extra and made the money in two weeks. My response? Respect, compliments, and giving her easy and long sessions. So, by being a good worker, she made 1500 from me instead of 50.
I do not respect girls who have no respect for themselves and cheat. She has her reasons to cheat, but I see no reason to support them and encourage bad behaviour, which only damages her further.
If a girl has a bad day then I have no problem: I have paid a lot over the years to girls with migraines, stomach ache, pussy pain, even when they couldn't really work properly or at all.The difference is that these girls didn't cheat me.I gave them support, help, and money, extending sessions even when they felt the sessions should end because they couldn't provide the normal service.They provided something else: honesty. Exactly as UltraHappy described
So going to the front desk about a girl who intentionally cheats is an option I support
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[QUOTE=Akibono;1936593]Read between the lines. She did not earn enough and her pimp won't let her go home until she hits her quota.[/QUOTE]A girl can make more money normally by good service than by cheating, so I doubt that pimp imposed targets are the reason for cheating in most cases.
Of course, it can and does happen, but girls with pimps are often in a group and the group will conspire to limit their earnings if a pimp is greedy. Many pimps are more like employment agencies: getting rich by providing a service to the girl (getting her into a club and accommodation) and then taking a percentage. With only a few girls a pimp can make good money.
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UltraHappy. Exactly right in all aspects.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1936480]I'm proud, after about 400 days in FKK, never took or been taken by any girl to desk, I never force them and usually, except Nina at Sharks, they don't try to fuck me, even they are not all top girls.[/QUOTE]I also, in about 700 days in FKK, have never taken a girl to front desk, and I never force a girl to do anything, even fuck: I leave it up to them what they do. But as I write in my reply to ExpatLover there are circumstances when it is right to take a girl to the front desk, to limit the spread of cheating behaviour.
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Optimist,
Most of pimps / fish are BF or even husbands, living with money girls make when we fuck their GF or wife or their child mother, these no balls are not able to go to work, not real men for me.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1936713]I also, in about 700 days in FKK, have never taken a girl to front desk, and I never force a girl to do anything, even fuck: I leave it up to them what they do. But as I write in my reply to ExpatLover there are circumstances when it is right to take a girl to the front desk, to limit the spread of cheating behaviour.[/QUOTE]Even I m only a less than 4 yo baby in FKK, I understood being fucked by guys is not a job like mine, very difficult job for these girls who are about 20 and far from Nobel award, so even when I have problem, I can decide to write about, but I don t take them to desk, I had good reasons with Evita, but I think if she has to do this job, she needs to make money. I remember a girl at World, saying me: I'm only 22 , but I have to make money to help my family, it s a big pressure for me. Also taxi / BF / pimp who need gas and new tires for the Mercedes, to drive their "shatzi" to fuck factory.
When a girl tries to fuck you, just get balls to say: no, but many poor guys are so afraid girls don't want to go with them, 1 lost, new lovely girls who will be happy to get new business.
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This is the Oase thread. It is not the General thread.
This is so annoying. Maybe there should be two FKK Oase threads, "FKK Oase. Not about Oase" and "FKK Oase. Really about Oase. ".
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1936889]This is so annoying. Maybe there should be two FKK Oase threads, "FKK Oase. Not about Oase" and "FKK Oase. Really about Oase. ".[/QUOTE]Mea culpa. You are 100% right. Apologies for my recent transgressions.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1936776]Even I m only a less than 4 yo baby in FKK, I understood being fucked by guys is not a job like mine, very difficult job for these girls who are about 20 and far from Nobel award, so even when I have problem, I can decide to write about, but I don t take them to desk, I had good reasons with Evita, but I think if she has to do this job, she needs to make money. I remember a girl at World, saying me: I'm only 22 , but I have to make money to help my family, it s a big pressure for me. Also taxi / BF / pimp who need gas and new tires for the Mercedes, to drive their "shatzi" to fuck factory.
[/QUOTE]Many thanks for the advice Sirioja. I will remember that when the police arrest me for robbing a bank. I will simply tell the police that I was stealing to help out my big family and that I have a difficult life. I was under a lot of pressure because my family was depending on me to help them. Yes, that will probably work like a charm!
I am sure that they will let me go right away once they know I had good intentions for the money. As always, brilliant advice. Thanks!
(translation of the above into French for Siroija: Une vie difficile ne justifie pas LE vol.)
Posted with apologies to Neurosynth
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1936776]Even I m only a less than 4 yo baby in FKK, I understood being fucked by guys is not a job like mine, very difficult job for these girls who are about 20 and far from Nobel award
[/QUOTE]So once again you Mister Respect are implying that these girls are dumb. At least for the moment you're not saying that they're ugly.
[QUOTE]so even when I have problem, I can decide to write about, but I don t take them to desk,[/QUOTE]You write after but you don't deal directly with the girl, not so ballsy for me. Evita from Sharks?
In my 80 days in FKK, I took one girl to the desk (actually she took me to the desk) and I strongly regret I didn't have the balls to do it before! We are not milk cows! Sorry Neurosynth.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1936706]I have never taken a girl to a front desk but nothing excuses cheating. There are easy ways to pay for chemotherapy apart from a girl cheating. Recently a girl told me she had to raise 6000 for an operation for her mother. Her solution? She worked extra and made the money in two weeks. My response? Respect, compliments, and giving her easy and long sessions. So, by being a good worker, she made 1500 from me instead of 50.
I do not respect girls who have no respect for themselves and cheat. She has her reasons to cheat, but I see no reason to support them and encourage bad behaviour, which only damages her further.
If a girl has a bad day then I have no problem: I have paid a lot over the years to girls with migraines, stomach ache, pussy pain, even when they couldn't really work properly or at all.The difference is that these girls didn't cheat me.I gave them support, help, and money, extending sessions even when they felt the sessions should end because they couldn't provide the normal service.They provided something else: honesty. Exactly as UltraHappy described
So going to the front desk about a girl who intentionally cheats is an option I support[/QUOTE]Just to try to give another way to think the things, imagine you have to be fucked (anally of course) by several men every day that you don t like at all, that you have to do it 1000 kilometers far from your hometown, in a country you don t understand the language and every day your family is calling you about the chemotherapy of. I am not sure that you will show a lot of fun to your customers, I know it is a extreme situation but believe me it can happen.
When I have a session with a top escort obviously I will not think / behave the same but they are also stronger and able to manage difficult situations.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1936685]I never did also, Siri. And, I have a good reputation in all clubs, but the next that fucks with me goes to the reception with my full might. Disclaimer, this does not apply to my regulars who I know by now and may have a tired day. This applies to the Laura, Delia and their friends.[/QUOTE]Why are you so aggressive, for me if a girl is not good spirit I just think that I was not at the right level to make her enjoying the time with me, the problem is not the girl but my own behavior.
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Adina / Marina (Rom)
I had a lot of fun with this girl and just wonder if she is still in there. She is med length sort of red hair. Always sit under the TV when you come into the main room.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1936952]So once again you Mister Respect are implying that these girls are dumb. At least for the moment you're not saying that they're ugly.
You write after but you don't deal directly with the girl, not so ballsy for me. Evita from Sharks?
In my 80 days in FKK, I took one girl to the desk (actually she took me to the desk) and I strongly regret I didn't have the balls to do it before! We are not milk cows! Sorry Neurosynth.[/QUOTE]I don't think FKK girls are clever, when I speak with them, but not important to have sex, and just my opinion, nothing to do with respect or not.
I wonder if you dare to say to girls what I say to them, because I m not afraid they don't want to go with me again, then I will find new girls.
Usually, girls don't try to fuck me, but we are free to refuse when girls propose or ask for something, nothing to do with robber a bank.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;1937029]I had a lot of fun with this girl and just wonder if she is still in there. She is med length sort of red hair. Always sit under the TV when you come into the main room.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I saw her last in July.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;1937029]I had a lot of fun with this girl and just wonder if she is still in there. She is med length sort of red hair. Always sit under the TV when you come into the main room.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]She was in, last Sunday.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;1937029]I had a lot of fun with this girl and just wonder if she is still in there. She is med length sort of red hair. Always sit under the TV when you come into the main room.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Beautiful natural tits, but does she really kiss?
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1936997]Why are you so aggressive, for me if a girl is not good spirit I just think that I was not at the right level to make her enjoying the time with me, the problem is not the girl but my own behavior.[/QUOTE]Well, maybe you can be in bad spirits or behave badly to a girl, but I don't have that problem. Further, I trust that as adults we can differentiate when it is our fault and when the girl is tricking us. The examples provided such as Laura ripping off 500 euro, do you see the guy being inappropriate (sweet Asian kid, really), Delia claiming with 6 guys we know of that she has pussy pain. You reply recklessly as if you are not reading the post. Please read carefully before replying. If there is a language barrier, I am sure Google translate will help you. Girls who cheat, lie and manipulate will not get positive reinforcements (psych 101). If someone steals, is it the victims fault? If someone lies, is it victims fault?
So why is the decision to stop giving money away for free to cheaters aggressive? These women have a job to and some do not do it, why should clients support there behavior? What is the incentive for the women who do there job to keep doing their job if the cheaters get away with getting money for nothing?
Please don't overthink this, I know this is a tough concept to internalize. G. O is always right, some animals are more equal than others dear friend.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1936889]This is so annoying. Maybe there should be two FKK Oase threads, "FKK Oase. Not about Oase" and "FKK Oase. Really about Oase. ".[/QUOTE]Many seem to complain being fucked for services or robbed for money asked, leave the room before 30 mn and you will lose only 50 , then kill your frustration enjoying next girl.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1936685]I never did also, Siri. And, I have a good reputation in all clubs, but the next that fucks with me goes to the reception with my full might. Disclaimer, this does not apply to my regulars who I know by now and may have a tired day. This applies to the Laura, Delia and their friends.[/QUOTE]Now you know about these girls, so, good You informed about, but don t go with them anymore and you won't have problems with them.
I never reproached to Madi when she had pain, I never wrote about, but when she changed, I never went to speak with her anymore. This job is not a normal job and often, girls don t have normal behavior and they are not clever enough to think about their behavior.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1936713]I also, in about 700 days in FKK, have never taken a girl to front desk, and I never force a girl to do anything, even fuck: I leave it up to them what they do. But as I write in my reply to ExpatLover there are circumstances when it is right to take a girl to the front desk, to limit the spread of cheating behaviour.[/QUOTE]I have never done it as well and let cheaters get away with it, excusing it by not going with them again. But, that is the wrong move. Things should be correct.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1937239]Now you know about these girls, so, good You informed about, but don t go with them anymore and you won't have problems with them.
I never reproached to Madi when she had pain, I never wrote about, but when she changed, I never went to speak with her anymore. This job is not a normal job and often, girls don t have normal behavior and they are not clever enough to think about their behavior.[/QUOTE]I was with Madi many times. She is a very honest girl. If she ever had pain with me, I know 100% she was honest. But we are only talking about the cheaters. The girls mentioned are just examples and there many more that we all will make the mistake of going with in the future, we will get cheated again and then we will have the choice of letting it go or saying something and that is an individual choice. Let's be clear for the last time, we are only discussing cheaters not great girls like Madi or other top performers.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1937119]Beautiful natural tits, but does she really kiss?[/QUOTE]She did for me at least.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1936952]So once again you Mister Respect are implying that these girls are dumb. At least for the moment you're not saying that they're ugly.
You write after but you don't deal directly with the girl, not so ballsy for me. Evita from Sharks?
In my 80 days in FKK, I took one girl to the desk (actually she took me to the desk) and I strongly regret I didn't have the balls to do it before! We are not milk cows! Sorry Neurosynth.[/QUOTE]I have taken 2 girls to the desk who tried to ask for more than the pay (actually both threatened to take me to the desk also, so thats why I did it). One at Palace and one at Oase. Safe to say they both knew they were bullshitting. So they both walked away before we reached the desk calling me crazy. One were about to start crying actually. Gave me repect at the clubs it seemed afterwards. I don't know what to take from those experiences, but both these girls stopped doing this afterwards I think. Even repeated with one of them and she was much much better in the room then.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1937448]I have taken 2 girls to the desk who tried to ask for more than the pay (actually both threatened to take me to the desk also, so thats why I did it). One at Palace and one at Oase. Safe to say they both knew they were bullshitting. So they both walked away before we reached the desk calling me crazy. One were about to start crying actually. Gave me repect at the clubs it seemed afterwards. I don't know what to take from those experiences, but both these girls stopped doing this afterwards I think. Even repeated with one of them and she was much much better in the room then.[/QUOTE]Same happened in Oase with an older Italian guy a few weeks ago; two girls are saying you need to give us a 100 each more, so they guy started laugh and said no, why? Raised is head to the clocked in the entrance and said that's the time and that's the money. They started screaming and making noise, but the guy didn't get embarrassed or scared and said firmly, no. They said lets go to the reception and as they stood in line for reception the girls took a step back and decided to take the money they deserved. One of the girls is OK but she was following her friend's lead. Could see her face was full of shame. This happens so much.
How many times has Cheyenne Sharks has been viewed asking for more money and going to reception. Some girls are never happy.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1936952]So once again you Mister Respect are implying that these girls are dumb. At least for the moment you're not saying that they're ugly.
You write after but you don't deal directly with the girl, not so ballsy for me. Evita from Sharks?
In my 80 days in FKK, I took one girl to the desk (actually she took me to the desk) and I strongly regret I didn't have the balls to do it before! We are not milk cows! Sorry Neurosynth.[/QUOTE]Me too, the trigger or last straw for is Delia. One of the guys at the club told me that he pushed back with her and therefore he didn't lose money. At that point, I was very disappointed that I didn't push back as well. True, "we are not milk cows. ".
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1936952]So once again you Mister Respect are implying that these girls are dumb. At least for the moment you're not saying that they're ugly.
You write after but you don't deal directly with the girl, not so ballsy for me. Evita from Sharks?
In my 80 days in FKK, I took one girl to the desk (actually she took me to the desk) and I strongly regret I didn't have the balls to do it before! We are not milk cows! Sorry Neurosynth.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Neurosynth;1936889]This is so annoying. Maybe there should be two FKK Oase threads, "FKK Oase. Not about Oase" and "FKK Oase. Really about Oase. ".[/QUOTE]If you find it annoying, you know that you don't have to read it. Better yet, I could not care less what you do or do not find annoying little one.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1937484]Same happened in Oase with an older Italian guy a few weeks ago; two girls are saying you need to give us a 100 each more, so they guy started laugh and said no, why? Raised is head to the clocked in the entrance and said that's the time and that's the money. They started screaming and making noise, but the guy didn't get embarrassed or scared and said firmly, no. They said lets go to the reception and as they stood in line for reception the girls took a step back and decided to take the money they deserved. One of the girls is OK but she was following her friend's lead. Could see her face was full of shame. This happens so much.
How many times has Cheyenne Sharks has been viewed asking for more money and going to reception. Some girls are never happy.[/QUOTE]Been to the desk once in all my years hobbying. At Oase some years ago where German girl and myself both agreed to go to the desk for arbitration. She wanted to charge me 50 E more for my ass rimming her. Desk agreed with her. One and only time I have ever paid for that out of hundreds of times in FKKs and elsewhere. Come to think of it I'm really happy I only visited Oase once in my recent 4 week stay in Frankfurt.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1937448]I have taken 2 girls to the desk who tried to ask for more than the pay (actually both threatened to take me to the desk also, so thats why I did it). One at Palace and one at Oase. Safe to say they both knew they were bullshitting. So they both walked away before we reached the desk calling me crazy. One were about to start crying actually. Gave me repect at the clubs it seemed afterwards. I don't know what to take from those experiences, but both these girls stopped doing this afterwards I think. Even repeated with one of them and she was much much better in the room then.[/QUOTE]Sorry but you had problem with a girl and after you had a new session with her I will never do this, I also have my proud.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1937291]I have never done it as well and let cheaters get away with it, excusing it by not going with them again. But, that is the wrong move. Things should be correct.[/QUOTE]Well, personally I shrug it off. Of course if she insist on getting more for things she didn't do, that's a different story. I had my share of bad experiences for sure, girls who complain if you put more than 2 inches inside, didn't want to do doggy claiming my dick was too big for that and so on. Never had anyone actually saying we couldn't fuck though.
I never commit to more than basic 30 minutes upfront, and will only extend if I'm happy with her services. If she is pushy on the upselling or suggesting CIM and all kind of extras a little to much already from the start, I will finish the session quickly and move on. Maybe this happens in 1 out of 4 sessions, and they way I see it there's always a risk of bad service, so when going with a girl, I know it and I am prepared to take that risk and waste the money.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1937484]Same happened in Oase with an older Italian guy a few weeks ago; two girls are saying you need to give us a 100 each more, so they guy started laugh and said no, why? Raised is head to the clocked in the entrance and said that's the time and that's the money. They started screaming and making noise, but the guy didn't get embarrassed or scared and said firmly, no. They said lets go to the reception and as they stood in line for reception the girls took a step back and decided to take the money they deserved. One of the girls is OK but she was following her friend's lead. Could see her face was full of shame. This happens so much.
How many times has Cheyenne Sharks has been viewed asking for more money and going to reception. Some girls are never happy.[/QUOTE]Hahaha, good job for this Italian guy LOL.
I got bad service before, but never asked for more money than set prices for set time.
I would have done the same thing and if reception try to force me as well to pay me more amount than originally promised, I will call Police.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1937832]Sorry but you had problem with a girl and after you had a new session with her I will never do this, I also have my proud.[/QUOTE]She changed club. And I had actually forgotten about it untill after I had repeated. It was also 2 years apart. :).
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Club Management should change their attitude fairness with both girls and Customer
[QUOTE=Pistons;1938238]Management should change otherwise ...... :).[/QUOTE]Couple of weeks back I met a guy in club after couple of hours he said he has to pack up his bag and leave the club. So out of curiosity I followed him to locker, turns out there he said this to few Japanese tourist that there are better club out there. And there is no variety here and food is not all that best either and due to clubs attitude towards customer girls can manage to get more money when they go to front desk. So I don't know those Japanese tourist told this to management and I doubt this very much.
But week later I found out it was not the case, This french guy going with few girls only very regular and spending $$$ or $$ and turns out the other girl was very jealous and he heard that he is telling this to tourist and she went to management and had her story confirmed with tourist. I am not sure but girls are like spies working for management so careful what you say.
Result he was permanently banned from club. I don't know I would rather clean my act and listen to these than make regular run away and make club for tourist. Look what happen to palace it barely survives.
My two cents to management please treat your customer right and give them a benefit of doubt.
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Bad management attitude
[QUOTE=MrHo;1938031]Hahaha, good job for this Italian guy LOL.
I got bad service before, but never asked for more money than set prices for set time.
I would have done the same thing and if reception try to force me as well to pay me more amount than originally promised, I will call Police.[/QUOTE]Couple of weeks back I met a guy in club after couple of hours he said he has to pack up his bag and leave the club. So out of curiosity I followed him to locker, turns out there he said this to few Japanese tourist that there are better club out there. And there is no variety here and food is not all that best either and due to clubs attitude towards customer girls can manage to get more money when they go to front desk. So I don't know those Japanese tourist told this to management and I doubt this very much.
But week later I found out it was not the case, This french guy going with few girls only very regular and spending $$$ or $$ and turns out the other girl was very jealous and he heard that he is telling this to tourist and she went to management and had her story confirmed with tourist. I am not sure but girls are like spies working for management so careful what you say.
Result he was permanently banned from club. I don't know I would rather clean my act and listen to these than make regular run away and make club for tourist. Look what happen to palace it barely survives.
My two cents to management please treat your customer right and give them a benefit of doubt.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1937484]Same happened in Oase with an older Italian guy a few weeks ago; two girls are saying you need to give us a 100 each more, so they guy started laugh and said no, why? Raised is head to the clocked in the entrance and said that's the time and that's the money. They started screaming and making noise, but the guy didn't get embarrassed or scared and said firmly, no. They said lets go to the reception and as they stood in line for reception the girls took a step back and decided to take the money they deserved. One of the girls is OK but she was following her friend's lead. Could see her face was full of shame. This happens so much.
How many times has Cheyenne Sharks has been viewed asking for more money and going to reception. Some girls are never happy.[/QUOTE]I think every newbie in FKK land will encounter some sort of up selling, cheating in some degree somewhere somehow. I got cheated by two girls for 2 x 200 for only less than one HR. They kind of team up and bully you at the small locker area where you hand them money. I did not go to reception to dispute as I did not really count the time we started. So I gave them what they wanted and learned ever since. You live and learn.
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[QUOTE=ParthenoLover;1938295]Couple of weeks back I met a guy in club after couple of hours he said he has to pack up his bag and leave the club. So out of curiosity I followed him to locker, turns out there he said this to few Japanese tourist that there are better club out there. And there is no variety here and food is not all that best either and due to clubs attitude towards customer girls can manage to get more money when they go to front desk. So I don't know those Japanese tourist told this to management and I doubt this very much.
But week later I found out it was not the case, This french guy going with few girls only very regular and spending $$$ or $$ and turns out the other girl was very jealous and he heard that he is telling this to tourist and she went to management and had her story confirmed with tourist. I am not sure but girls are like spies working for management so careful what you say.
Result he was permanently banned from club. I don't know I would rather clean my act and listen to these than make regular run away and make club for tourist. Look what happen to palace it barely survives.
My two cents to management please treat your customer right and give them a benefit of doubt.[/QUOTE]Well out of 6 years or 7 years I have been to FKK, I never had any issue with management anywhere or girls anywhere, but once in awhile I come across girls who try to upsell me or provide me bad service, but that is only once every two year and not even every year, so I do not mind.
Plus with these girls, I just go 30 min and never repeat her again and I make sure I fuck them very hard no matter what she say from doggy position LOL 50 euro damage and hardcore doggy punishment memory and I got 15 cm dick LOL next time it will be fueled up with Cialis as well LOL.
I did notice Oase management to be bit colder than other clubs I have been to, I got limited experience in Hessen clubs, but for management, I found Palace management very warm and friendly LOL but girls at palace are most Shark LOL.
However, I conclude that in general, FKK is best brothel format I have ever experience around the world LOL.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1937291]I have never done it as well and let cheaters get away with it, excusing it by not going with them again. But, that is the wrong move. Things should be correct.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. I have been there before and been there recently.
At Samya, Catea ru charged me 200 euro saying it was a 1 hour 46 minute session. I was sure it was 1 hour and a half so it was 150 euro as I recalled the start time of 3:15 pm. I gave her the 200 euro giving her the benefit of the doubt. I then realised I did not have a towel so went up to reception to get a towel and then checked the room key roster looking for Catea ru. She did indeed write we started at 3:15 pm and whrn I saw the clock in the reception it said 4:44 pm when was there so it must have been less than 1 hour 30 minutes as 1:46 hours would have seen a clock of after 5:01 pm. I then thought how do I find her. I saw her briefly going to a new customer and I did hesitate to go to her to show she over charged me due to probably her bad maths or maybe she had charged me for the brief chat in the lounge which would be wrong I think. The end was I had to leave the club and I did not break Catea from her customer and I had to leave the club. So I just decided as good as Catea is in the room I would not go with her again. I did wonder why several times Catea said could she see me again while in the room and when I paid her.
So my sanction is to withhold future bookings with Catea ru at Samya. But she was fucking amazing in the room apart from not allowing kiss with tongue. She licked balls.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;1937444]She did for me at least.[/QUOTE]Adina / Marina with beautiful tits, said she doesn't like to DFK, so I never force girls, and she stayed sitting for hours, until 9 pm. I could have tried her when I went to Oase.
Ina. Lat is still there.
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[QUOTE=DaWong949;1938370]I think every newbie in FKK land will encounter some sort of up selling, cheating in some degree somewhere somehow. I got cheated by two girls for 2 x 200 for only less than one HR. They kind of team up and bully you at the small locker area where you hand them money. I did not go to reception to dispute as I did not really count the time we started. So I gave them what they wanted and learned ever since. You live and learn.[/QUOTE]It still happens. I don't always remember to check the clock. And, in Oase, they remover the clock by the dining area before you go to the relax room. The only clock now is above the lockers.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1938482]I know what you mean. I have been there before and been there recently.
At Samya, Catea ru charged me 200 euro saying it was a 1 hour 46 minute session. I was sure it was 1 hour and a half so it was 150 euro as I recalled the start time of 3:15 pm. I gave her the 200 euro giving her the benefit of the doubt. I then realised I did not have a towel so went up to reception to get a towel and then checked the room key roster looking for Catea ru. She did indeed write we started at 3:15 pm and whrn I saw the clock in the reception it said 4:44 pm when was there so it must have been less than 1 hour 30 minutes as 1:46 hours would have seen a clock of after 5:01 pm. I then thought how do I find her. I saw her briefly going to a new customer and I did hesitate to go to her to show she over charged me due to probably her bad maths or maybe she had charged me for the brief chat in the lounge which would be wrong I think. The end was I had to leave the club and I did not break Catea from her customer and I had to leave the club. So I just decided as good as Catea is in the room I would not go with her again. I did wonder why several times Catea said could she see me again while in the room and when I paid her.
So my sanction is to withhold future bookings with Catea ru at Samya. But she was fucking amazing in the room apart from not allowing kiss with tongue. She licked balls.[/QUOTE]I never knew that the girls have to check in the time at Samya, that's really a great idea. I think they can do that in Oase when you pick up the keys. I was in Oase last week and got to talking with a group of tourists from the US. When they asked the girls for prices, the girls quoted them in two ways, 1,100 per 30 minutes and, 2,200 per session without discussing time.
I have to mention the girl at the front desk at Oase, I heard going out of her way to explain the rules regarding correct pricing, and if they feel that the girls are unfair with pricing they have the right to come to reception and discuss before paying to discuss things. Maybe someone at Oase management is reading this forum too.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1938579]I was in Oase last week and got to talking with a group of tourists from the US. When they asked the girls for prices, the girls quoted them in two ways, 1,100 per 30 minutes and, 2,200 per session without discussing time.
I have to mention the girl at the front desk at Oase, I heard going out of her way to explain the rules regarding correct pricing, and if they feel that the girls are unfair with pricing they have the right to come to reception and discuss before paying to discuss things. Maybe someone at Oase management is reading this forum too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1936945](translation of the above into French for Siroija: Une vie difficile ne justifie pas le vol.)[/QUOTE]A rough translation of the French into English for this forum is: "A hard life does not justify theft. ".
For HB who seems to think that it is okay that foreigners get cheated by the girls since it is he that is not getting mugged: ripping off customers is not good for future business so these gals are not good business women.
Sirioja will confirm that these girls are not Nobel Prize winners but they must know enough that you do not bite the hand that feeds you.
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For HB who seems to think that it is okay that foreigners get cheated by the girls since it is he that is not getting mugged: ripping off customers is not good for future business so these gals are not good business women..[/QUOTE]Yeah but in many countries I pay as a foreigner many times more than a local for P6 and I have additional quite often a security risk. In Germany you are safe and when you prepare yourself you still have good chances don't paying more than locals for P6. For me German FKK clubs still the best place on this planet for P6.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1938757]For me German FKK clubs still the best place on this planet for P6.[/QUOTE]At least until 1st July 2017 or 1st Jan. 2018, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1938579]Snip. I was in Oase last week and got to talking with a group of tourists from the US. When they asked the girls for prices, the girls quoted them in two ways, 1,100 per 30 minutes and, 2,200 per session without discussing time. Snip[/QUOTE]Euros? I can't imagine any girl at Oase asking that, no matter how much of a shark. Who would pay that?
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[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1938795]Euros? I can't imagine any girl at Oase asking that, no matter how much of a shark. Who would pay that?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I had to re-read it. I think Danny means 1) 100 Euros for 30 minutes, 2) 200 Euros no time mentioned.
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[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1938795]Euros? I can't imagine any girl at Oase asking that, no matter how much of a shark. Who would pay that?[/QUOTE]An American customer at Palace asked how much was it for a BBBJ and was quoted 500 euro which he did indeed pay. Afterwards he found out that the BBBJ should have been included in a standard 50 euro session. So these things happen.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1938802] 1) 100 Euros for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]The 100 euro for a short time session (e. G. Half hour and CIM) or one hour minimum booking is akin to the theme at Sharks where some girls ask (and there are quite a few girls who do that now) who say no kissing or licking the pussy unless it is an one hour room booking by the customer.
So what I am saying is do not baulk at the offer of 100 euro for half hour as this is where some girls are looking to specialize in so that they can maximize their income.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1938806]The 100 euro for a short time session (e. G. Half hour and CIM) or one hour minimum booking is akin to the theme at Sharks where some girls ask (and there are quite a few girls who do that now) who say no kissing or licking the pussy unless it is an one hour room booking by the customer.
So what I am saying is do not baulk at the offer of 100 euro for half hour as this is where some girls are looking to specialize in so that they can maximize their income.[/QUOTE]I had this at Oase, nowadays at most FKK that I have been to you really have to negotiate everything before you even go for one hour in room.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1938806]The 100 euro for a short time session (e. G. Half hour and CIM) or one hour minimum booking is akin to the theme at Sharks where some girls ask (and there are quite a few girls who do that now) who say no kissing or licking the pussy unless it is an one hour room booking by the customer.
So what I am saying is do not baulk at the offer of 100 euro for half hour as this is where some girls are looking to specialize in so that they can maximize their income.[/QUOTE]Sorry, the point I was trying to make was that the original post said "1,100 euro per 30 minutes" rather than "1) 100 euro per 30 minutes" which I think was leading to some confusion. At least for me.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1938804]An American customer at Palace asked how much was it for a BBBJ and was quoted 500 euro which he did indeed pay. Afterwards he found out that the BBBJ should have been included in a standard 50 euro session. So these things happen.[/QUOTE]As the saying goes, "A fool and his money are easily parted!
Don't mean to be callous, but what else can we say.
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;1938818]Sorry, the point I was trying to make was that the original post said "1,100 euro per 30 minutes" rather than "1) 100 euro per 30 minutes" which I think was leading to some confusion. At least for me.[/QUOTE]What you say makes sense. Only Danny227 can confirm for us 100 percent.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1938814]I had this at Oase, nowadays at most FKK that I have been to you really have to negotiate everything before you even go for one hour in room.[/QUOTE]I hear you Ho.
My comment on needing to negotiate everytbing with a girl prior to the room defeats one if the key concepts of FKKs which is standardisation of pricing and the service level. If one girl charges for kissing and another girl does not then if this checking has to be done for all sessions being booked then FKK format loses some of its allure.
It ends up being more like an escort where you need to check the services of the girls and even then you are never 100 percent they provide since as always YMMV or the girl refuses to do it citing some lame excuse like my pussy is hurting but I accepted your booking anyway since I can suck cock.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1938579]I never knew that the girls have to check in the time at Samya, that's really a great idea. I think they can do that in Oase when you pick up the keys. I was in Oase last week and got to talking with a group of tourists from the US. When they asked the girls for prices, the girls quoted them in two ways, 1,100 per 30 minutes and, 2,200 per session without discussing time.
I have to mention the girl at the front desk at Oase, I heard going out of her way to explain the rules regarding correct pricing, and if they feel that the girls are unfair with pricing they have the right to come to reception and discuss before paying to discuss things. Maybe someone at Oase management is reading this forum too.[/QUOTE]At Samya, GT, LR, PHG, girls write at what time they take key.
Are guys so stupid to be fucked like this for rates, by girls. On this Friday, when I returned to PHG after 3 years, when I paid entry, I also asked for girls rates, even not speaking German and foreigner. I never speak about money with girls, I give them club rate, they often ask when I will come back, like Madeleine after our first chalet on this Sunday, she seemed to want to be so wet again, after asking if I wanted to stay longer, but unfortunately no ATM at GT, I would have liked to drink her juice and get her again for one more round.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1938897]I hear you Ho.
My comment on needing to negotiate everytbing with a girl prior to the room defeats one if the key concepts of FKKs which is standardisation of pricing and the service level. If one girl charges for kissing and another girl does not then if this checking has to be done for all sessions being booked then FKK format loses some of its allure.
It ends up being more like an escort where you need to check the services of the girls and even then you are never 100 percent they provide since as always YMMV or the girl refuses to do it citing some lame excuse like my pussy is hurting but I accepted your booking anyway since I can suck cock.[/QUOTE]I had kissing was OK, but no DATY. I mean this was first time I experienced this and it was only in Hessen club. Palace and Oase, by just two girls only. Usually it is other way round, DATY OK and not kissing.
I kinda found Sharks providing good service, though my experience in sharks are very limited.
Over all, FKK is not how it used to be. One really have to negotiate each moves you want to do prior to the room or be prepared to be negatively surprised LOL I kissed her on lip then I moved to pussy then she was like No no LOL.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1935640]It is already the norm for girls to try to get a little bit extra by being creative on timekeeping: they very often tell me the small things they do with what they consider not nice customers. These same girls will however give a little extra time for customers they like so on balance they are keeping to the rules.[/QUOTE]Optimist, if I may ask, what is your reaction when your favored girls tell you that they will manipulate the time charged for some customers and not for others? Is it a feeling of smugness that she has not done this to you or is there a hint of revulsion at the collusive and caustic behavior that she has instigated on her own whim as she judges a person before her?
You do not need to answer this if you do not feel so. I was just interested. Indeed I have said this is wrong to some girls but then I know at times I have just sat in mute silence nodding and wondering where this will all lead to.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1938908]At Samya, GT, LR, PHG, girls write at what time they take key.[/QUOTE]I didn'the know at LR or GT do this. It's obvious at Aca, Magnum, Samya, Mondial, and YY. So, there are proof if there are any disputes.
At YY, every room I've been had clocks easily visible from the bed. So far, haven'the ran into time problems there. NRW, I get shorted rarely. F39 awhile back had girls start a clock in the room.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1938908]. I never speak about money with girls, I give them club rate, .[/QUOTE]Correct me if I'm wrong but back in the days when you were all about Golden Time, Rachel and german girls you were very happy to pay her (and some others) 100 €/ hour when the club rate was 75 €/ h.
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Since when did room time begin when the girl takes the key? It's always been from the time they close the door and finish their bathroom / smoke break.
Pretty useless for Mondial to write the time a key was taken. Anyone who knows this club can tell you it can take a good 5 minutes from the front desk, through a packed club, down through the Wellness area, upa couple flights of stairs, then out to the balcony.
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What I do is ask how much time is left, and check the time to see if she is in sync. Of course sometimes there are girls that didn't note the time and has no idea when we came in. I've had times both of us were clueless when we came in. LOL.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1939287]I didn'the know at LR or GT do this. It's obvious at Aca, Magnum, Samya, Mondial, and YY. So, there are proof if there are any disputes.[/QUOTE]Also at Artemis they do this upstairs to move it closer to the rooms. And at Oceans the timekeeping book lies all open at the reception for anyone to look at. Not sure if they like it or not when I have peaked in it a few times though.
The sync is allways off by about 3 minutes I noticed too. Because they start it at the reception, or at the book... and not when you enter the room...
Things to keep in mind. So smoke, toilet or shower breaks before the session starts after she has written in the books are basically time scams... sounds like you have been time scammed BB... I have too before I started paying attention.
I do have two girls who let me overstay the time because they like me as well. Or so they say. That goes a long way towards me tipping them. And it says alot...
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1939294]Since when did room time begin when the girl takes the key? It's always been from the time they close the door and finish their bathroom / smoke break.[/QUOTE]Certainly the clock should start when the session kicks off. The point is, time is written as proof instead of he said she said.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1938908]Are guys so stupid to be fucked like this for rates, by girls. On this Friday, when I returned to PHG after 3 years, when I paid entry, I also asked for girls rates, even not speaking German and foreigner.[/QUOTE]There were mention of SS (in NL) telling punters it's up to the girl what rate and similarly people have mentioned for Artemis. I asked the front desk at YY (another NL club) the rate, they straight up told me 50 per half. Extras they said one must discuss with the girl. So, how club operate varies. Even how the smoking law operates in De is a question as club varies even in a region of De such as NRW.
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A long time ago before my first trip (2011? Breadman advised me to wear a white faced dial watch. I make a subtle point of looking at my watch when I remove it at the start sp that the girl can see what I did. It lets them know not to skim the time allotment.
Once in awhile, I've had a girl get a little upset about that, but it's mainly because I foiled their plan and at that point, I will not extend the session beyond 30 minutes die to attitude. I never make a big deal about it however and many times I have extended to sm hour or more if she is enjoyable.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1939287]
At YY, every room I've been had clocks easily visible from the bed. So far, haven'the ran into time problems there. NRW, I get shorted rarely. F39 awhile back had girls start a clock in the room.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1939060]Over all, FKK is not how it used to be. One really have to negotiate each moves you want to do prior to the room or be prepared to be negatively surprised LOL I kissed her on lip then I moved to pussy then she was like No no LOL.[/QUOTE]On my fourth trip since 2011 in June, services didn't seem that terribly different than they were previously. I found it to be all about your attitude and approach. If you approach it as an alacarte (do you do this or how much for kissing asked) that is what you get. Out of 33 sessions on my last trip, I only remember one, I. E. Cheyanne, where kissing and DATY was specifically denied without paying extra. On the other hand, I tried to choose carefully based on rapport and recommendations. Instead of Swiss Michelle and hungariane Judith, I enjoyed a sweet real German angel, named appropriately Angel, and Hungarian Elizabeth. Almost always DATY and ay least LFK were offered, not as an extra. Of course the services weren't as intense as they were at Bernds.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1938908] Madeleine after our first chalet on this Sunday, she seemed to want to be so wet again, after asking if I wanted to stay longer, but unfortunately no ATM at GT, I would have liked to drink her juice and get her again for one more round.[/QUOTE]What on earth does the absence of ass-to -mouth have to do with a repeat session LOL.
Beffen, wise ass.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1937487]If you find it annoying, you know that you don't have to read it. Better yet, I could not care less what you do or do not find annoying little one.[/QUOTE]Threads have topics for a reason. By your logic the entire site should be poured into one giant thread including every location in the world. You can just skip the ones you aren't interested in, right?
The fact is in a thread entry here you can't even tell it's not going to be about Oase at all until you've read most of it. It's a waste of everyone's time just because the poster is too lazy to respect the thread topic.
A good board is like a good garden. It requires constant weeding. Don't be a weed.
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[QUOTE=Mambomike;1939625]A long time ago before my first trip (2011? Breadman advised me to wear a white faced dial watch. I make a subtle point of looking at my watch when I remove it at the start sp that the girl can see what I did. It lets them know not to skim the time allotment.
Once in awhile, I've had a girl get a little upset about that, but it's mainly because I foiled their plan and at that point, I will not extend the session beyond 30 minutes die to attitude. I never make a big deal about it however and many times I have extended to sm hour or more if she is enjoyable.[/QUOTE]I do exactly the same. Feeling it is the best approach too as the subtle move makes it look like a rutine as well. That way you can avoid silly time wasted on arguments and non agreements regarding time also. Never had a girl upset because of it though. Perhaps you don't make it look as rutine based as I do. Those little things. Impulses can change alot, and never look at the girl while you do it.
I think Cheyenne is quite ymmw... reports on her that I hear from guys at the club too ranges from 3-9... and when girls say they never do something, that is allways a lie... not gonna say what she does and dont do with me. But you get the idea...
Neurosynth: well, the format of ISG makes this happen and derails are sometimes also contextually interresting regarding the club as well. Other forums formats can make them more strict to avoid these derailments. Personally I like banter and chat, so i prefer isg over some of these dull boring sterile forums where all you get to know is which ball the poster busted first. Left or right... like a rediculously boring sex novel with bad authors, lame descriptions, and a 6th graders wiki on how to insert a penis into a vagina with foreplay included.
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Bitumen, I will reply under the Lounge and Chat thread as I think Neurosynth is right and this thread should be for Oase.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1939291]Correct me if I'm wrong but back in the days when you were all about Golden Time, Rachel and german girls you were very happy to pay her (and some others) 100 / hour when the club rate was 75 / h.[/QUOTE]Bub,
You are my follower since 3 years? Before I started on ISG, when I wrote on other forum? Do you know why I became one of the most regular at GT? Girls and desk remember me. Because I followed barbie Louana. Ro from PHG, to GT on end of March 2013, she was Aida at GT and I went to GT every Sunday for her. For my first room in her room number 2, she kept the key for her business at this time at PHG, she said she wanted 100 for 1 hour, I did accept, same rate at GT and whe didn't speak again about money for our 14 other rooms, I think we had about 15 rooms from March to December 2013.
100/ h was the rate at Bab Elsdorf, but no Aida / Louana at Bab. Some guys wanted she accepted for 75, but she refused, and she was the busy superstar with sometimes 15 rooms a day.
You are right, until Oceans opened, rate at GT was 75/ h, but most of pretty girls asked 100/ h at GT, Sam, Liz, Cora. When Rachel started on August 2013 , she worked for 75/ h, but on September she asked 100/ h. On first time, I noticed her, we had a nice chat and she said she wanted 50 for each 30 mn, but I could refuse, but I wanted her, I had about 25 rooms with her in 4 months, some week ends, I had 4 1 hour rooms with her on Saturday evening and Sunday, I don't regret, I prefer to pay 100 for a beauty, even 280 for Kate or Isabella, rather than 75 for a GND. We never spoke again about money, after this.
At Aca, I pay 80/ h Kate, at Samya, I paid Katea 75 for each hour, at Globe, I pay 280/ h, clubs rate, money talk kill my desire.
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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1939294]Since when did room time begin when the girl takes the key? It's always been from the time they close the door and finish their bathroom / smoke break.
Pretty useless for Mondial to write the time a key was taken. Anyone who knows this club can tell you it can take a good 5 minutes from the front desk, through a packed club, down through the Wellness area, upa couple flights of stairs, then out to the balcony.[/QUOTE]True. So maybe key pick can be closer to the rooms like in Oase. But still a good idea to write down the time. That ends the cheating or girls will actually manipulate hand writing or write what they feel like, LOL.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1939291]Correct me if I'm wrong but back in the days when you were all about Golden Time, Rachel and german girls you were very happy to pay her (and some others) 100 / hour when the club rate was 75 / h.[/QUOTE]Prices do seem on the March upwards. Golden Time and Living Room have the 100 euro for one hour and in August we have seen Samya also increase its pricing to 100 euro for one hour. There may yet be the push for the Hessen clubs to head towards to the Artemis pricing of 120 euros for the one hour or even the Austrian club format of 130 euro for the hour like at Andiamo.
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I do hope they make incremental increases instead of large ones. 55 e for half an hour in an almost deflationary europe should make more sense. I tip in about half the cases now depending on if their service is above or below average of what I encounter. But usually not more than 5 e tip. If prices go up, no more tipping from me for a few years.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1939753]Prices do seem on the March upwards. Golden Time and Living Room have the 100 euro for one hour and in August we have seen Samya also increase its pricing to 100 euro for one hour. There may yet be the push for the Hessen clubs to head towards to the Artemis pricing of 120 euros for the one hour or even the Austrian club format of 130 euro for the hour like at Andiamo.[/QUOTE]Did you hear about increasing rate to 60/30 mn in Hessen?
Aca is 40/30 mn with beautiful girls, Andiamo and Wellcum. At are 70/30 mn, Globe is 140 CHF /30 mn.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1939753]Prices do seem on the March upwards. Golden Time and Living Room have the 100 euro for one hour and in August we have seen Samya also increase its pricing to 100 euro for one hour. There may yet be the push for the Hessen clubs to head towards to the Artemis pricing of 120 euros for the one hour or even the Austrian club format of 130 euro for the hour like at Andiamo.[/QUOTE]In NRW the new club (Oceans) made the move from 75€ to 100€/ h. To attract girls from the other clubs with 75€/ h. But the other clubs just also raised the price and there was no more need for the girls to change to a new club with no regulars and few clients. So that backfired, for the club and the clients. Good for the girls.
When Artemis opened they set 60€/30 min to attract girls from other clubs with 50€/30 min. There's no other club in Berlin. All other clubs didn't change their pricing. And entrance fees have gone down with all the special promotions and cheap days. Years ago Sakura and FKK Haus (now Safari) were 60€ a 55€ for 30 min. That came down to 50€. There's no interest for the clubs to raise pricing for the girls as it may mean less clients. And the club makes money on entry and alcohol, that's it.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1939873]In NRW the new club (Oceans) made the move from 75 to 100/ h. To attract girls from the other clubs with 75/ h. But the other clubs just also raised the price and there was no more need for the girls to change to a new club with no regulars and few clients. So that backfired, for the club and the clients. Good for the girls.
There's no interest for the clubs to raise pricing for the girls as it may mean less clients. And the club makes money on entry and alcohol, that's it.
HB.[/QUOTE]You are right for what happened in NRW, but Aca, Haus Pantera and Samya didn't change. Samya changed on end of August 2016.
In 2013, GT stars already asked 100/ h, even club rate was 75/ h, and I m honest, I preferred to pay 100 for Aida, Liz, Cora, Rachel, Sam, than 75 for GND. I did accept when they said for 100, I could refuse, so I never complained at the desk because I found they were honest to say before going, and I repeated many times with GFE, without other upselling, without speaking again about money. Germans started to upseil for DFK and DATY on 2014, but I have discovered Hessen without upselling, on beginning of 2014 , and I left GT, for World first, then Sharks, then Oase, even 100/150 more kms to go.
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GT LR Artemis Sakura Aca Oceans Andiamo Globe Babylon Samya SS YY Mondial and more.This is one weird thread.
(I'm only grumpy because I'm restraining my urge to add to the offtopic discussions, like a reformed smoker :)).
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[QUOTE=Mambomike;1939630]On my fourth trip since 2011 in June, services didn't seem that terribly different than they were previously. I found it to be all about your attitude and approach. If you approach it as an alacarte (do you do this or how much for kissing asked) that is what you get. Out of 33 sessions on my last trip, I only remember one, I. E. Cheyanne, where kissing and DATY was specifically denied without paying extra. On the other hand, I tried to choose carefully based on rapport and recommendations. Instead of Swiss Michelle and hungariane Judith, I enjoyed a sweet real German angel, named appropriately Angel, and Hungarian Elizabeth. Almost always DATY and ay least LFK were offered, not as an extra. Of course the services weren't as intense as they were at Bernds.[/QUOTE]Every one can do what he wants, is there really a need to mix minutes and pleasure, I can have a great session of 40 minutes even I pay for one hour I don t care, I always respect the girls and don t want to check each minutes or attitude, some days the girls will offer that or that and the other they don t feel well and it will be another things, is it not the same with our wife or girls friends. I never read the report to choose a girl because there is also feeling and chemistry between people and not only mechanical sex. For mechanical sex why not going to the RLD in Frankfurt it is even far cheaper than FKK.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1939947]GT LR Artemis Sakura Aca Oceans Andiamo Globe Babylon Samya SS YY Mondial and more.This is one weird thread.
(I'm only grumpy because I'm restraining my urge to add to the offtopic discussions, like a reformed smoker :)).[/QUOTE]But who is really interested by Oase for girls services? Except Ina. Lat and Elisabet. Cz of course. So few real women there, even I was said about new pretty face Misha? But silicon.
Tatiana. Ru seems to prefer new GT business.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1939638]Threads have topics for a reason. By your logic the entire site should be poured into one giant thread including every location in the world. You can just skip the ones you aren't interested in, right?
The fact is in a thread entry here you can't even tell it's not going to be about Oase at all until you've read most of it. It's a waste of everyone's time just because the poster is too lazy to respect the thread topic.
A good board is like a good garden. It requires constant weeding. Don't be a weed.[/QUOTE]Did you come up with that all by yourself smarty? I am sure Mami would be proud.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1939947]GT LR Artemis Sakura Aca Oceans Andiamo Globe Babylon Samya SS YY Mondial and more.This is one weird thread.
(I'm only grumpy because I'm restraining my urge to add to the offtopic discussions, like a reformed smoker :)).[/QUOTE]Many of us fully agree with your sentiments. And I must compliment you on your lack of a "holier than thou attitude. " :)
But, I know I am breaking the flow here, however: Is there anybody out there who has some comments specifically about Oase? Maybe somebody has a report of a recent visit? If not, maybe one of us should just re-post some old reports to get this topic back on its correct track.
It is weird the way the Oase thread in particular often becomes a dumping ground for a whole range of off-topic discussions that could so easily be directed to other (more appropriate) places on this board. It's spooky, I tell you... :)
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Here's a question, I hope some of you won't consider it too off-topic:
Does anybody know if Ina (Latvia) is still working at Oase and, if so, how long she might stay working there? Her normal profile is to come to Oase, work a few weeks, then return back to her home, not to return for weeks or even months later. Tatiana (Ru) worked the same way, short stints, in and out of Germany.
I like girls who have that style, as, to me at least it shows intelligence. That's right, for me a girl who likes to take the money and run is a smart girl. It often helps to protect the girl getting totally burned out and jaded. It also makes me think there is less chance that the girl in question is pimped, whether that is in fact true or not.
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Ina. Lat was at Oase last week.
Tatiana is Ilona at GT, why should she return to Oase? Much better business at GT.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1939963]But who is really interested by Oase for girls services? Except Ina. Lat and Elisabet. Cz of course. So few real women there, even I was said about new pretty face Misha? But silicon.
Tatiana. Ru seems to prefer new GT business.[/QUOTE]You need to try girls such as May, Szanett, Vera, Denisa and even the new ex Globe girl Raissa at Oase before you completely write it off for service. And I am not even a third of the way through all the Oase girls. Sarah and Amina gives of good vibes, and brunette Carla has great reports (and good looks too). Right now I am just worried that lots of the optics have left:/ some good, some bad, some never tried.
By the way, if anyone know if ukrainian Miru (or Mira) is back at Sakura, please let me know. Or if you have spotted Cami at another club...
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1939963]But who is really interested by Oase for girls services? Except Ina. Lat and Elisabet. Cz of course. So few real women there, even I was said about new pretty face Misha? But silicon.
Tatiana. Ru seems to prefer new GT business.[/QUOTE]To regulars, Oase had more than Tatiana and Elizabeth to offer. Some girls can really give great service if they know you. You just have be mindful of the sharks lie Laura and her similar who will skin you alive.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940112]You need to try girls such as May, Szanett, Vera, Denisa and even the new ex Globe girl Raissa at Oase before you completely write it off for service. And I am not even a third of the way through all the Oase girls. Sarah and Amina gives of good vibes, and brunette Carla has great reports (and good looks too). Right now I am just worried that lots of the optics have left:/ some good, some bad, some never tried.
By the way, if anyone know if ukrainian Miru (or Mira) is back at Sakura, please let me know. Or if you have spotted Cami at another club...[/QUOTE]May is OK, Szanett OK sometimes, Denisa has good service but too old looking although sweet, Raissa is good but very professional and has a routine so nothing personal or intimate just like a fuck machine, Amina was at sharks and her room isn't great. None of these girls is even in the same playing field as Elizabeth CZ! However, Oase has some great service girls I agree, but if you note these maybe you should actually give Tatiana or Elizabeth a try so you can actually feel the gap in service.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1940154]You just have be mindful of the sharks lie Laura and her similar who will skin you alive.[/QUOTE]I will add that I agree about Laura (Juicy's sister). Great caution must be exercised when booking her. She can actually provide good service if properly incentivized to do so, but I do not care to incentivize her. Unfortunately, she is not capable of doing long-time fucking, which is a significant limitation. She will also try various cheating tactics to try to extract extra money from her clients.
Another girl to stay away from: Amelia. Claims to be 23 (sometimes says she is 25 now). When she first joined Oase years ago, she was great with DFK and a great attitude. Now unfortunately, she has quite a bad attitude. No kissing either, not even LFK. This is about the Amelia who used to always wear cut-off jean shorts all the time years ago. She still works at Oase now. Save your money.
On the recommend side, there's a new Beatrice working at Oase now who doesn't speak any English or German at all -- only Romanian. She has a good attitude and she's a solid recommend if you like her type. Since my Romanian isn't all that great, I brought my own translator with me in the room with her so communication wasn't a problem. She seemed quite eager to please.
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While I am not a Oase expert, I can heartily recommend Sascha and Veronica, and MIla. I think Michelle is very pretty, but she said she DFKs only for extra money. But as far as service goes, Sascha is just amazing. Best for me in a long time. A bit like Sandra at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1940164]May is OK, Szanett OK sometimes, Denisa has good service but too old looking although sweet, Raissa is good but very professional and has a routine so nothing personal or intimate just like a fuck machine, Amina was at sharks and her room isn't great. None of these girls is even in the same playing field as Elizabeth CZ! However, Oase has some great service girls I agree, but if you note these maybe you should actually give Tatiana or Elizabeth a try so you can actually feel the gap in service.[/QUOTE]I think I was the first one to ever report on Tatiana here on this forum. Passionate yes, but no spark like I sometimes find with other girls. And believe it or not, she is the first girl I've ever been with that kisses too much. I had breathing problems towards the end and lack of oxygen. Which is bad for sex. LOL.
Strange how you find Denisa to look too old. To me she looks about 23-25. I have also never seen Denisa in a bad mood. She allways spreads good mood and smiles to everyone. Ymmv maybe. Yes Raissa has a routine. But not one bit more than Tatiana. Russians are known as great kissers though, but Tatiana doesn't get close to this russian I met at Artemis 2-3 years ago: Juliette. Much better optics too. Especially when she had her long black cowboy boots on...
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1940180]I will add that I agree about Laura (Juicy's sister). Great caution must be exercised when booking her. She can actually provide good service if properly incentivized to do so, but I do not care to incentivize her. Unfortunately, she is not capable of doing long-time fucking, which is a significant limitation. She will also try various cheating tactics to try to extract extra money from her clients.
[/QUOTE]This is exactly the type of girl who gives her countrywomen a bad name. But then there are girls like Denisa (and some of us will recall another Romanian Denisa, blonde, a few years ago also at Oase) who represents girls of her country in a most positive light. This instructs us that we should not be so fast to categorize and paint all girls from one country with the same brush.
About Laura (used the name Livia also in the past): Everything about her seems to suggest she became easily and quickly jaded by working in this profession. She may have been less tainted when she first started at Oase two-three years ago, but then she left Oase, went to Sharks for a while, and then other clubs in places other than Germany even, and when she came back to Oase, she became more extreme and set in her bad, bad ways. Or so it would seem from exchanging information with guys that were / are her regular customers and for what one can glean from recent posts here. Personally, I never felt much motivation to go with her back in her "good days" and definitely now I would NOT try her out. Last June she came to me in the Oase lounge with pseudo-sweetness, but it was easy to see through her and our interaction lasted no more than one or two minutes. Ciao, Laura!
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940112]You need to try girls such as May, Szanett, Vera, Denisa and even the new ex Globe girl Raissa at Oase before you completely write it off for service. And I am not even a third of the way through all the Oase girls. Sarah and Amina gives of good vibes, and brunette Carla has great reports (and good looks too). Right now I am just worried that lots of the optics have left:/ some good, some bad, some never tried.
By the way, if anyone know if ukrainian Miru (or Mira) is back at Sakura, please let me know. Or if you have spotted Cami at another club...[/QUOTE][QUOTE=UltraHappy;1940180]I will add that I agree about Laura (Juicy's sister). Great caution must be exercised when booking her. She can actually provide good service if properly incentivized to do so, but I do not care to incentivize her. Unfortunately, she is not capable of doing long-time fucking, which is a significant limitation. She will also try various cheating tactics to try to extract extra money from her clients.
Another girl to stay away from: Amelia. Claims to be 23 (sometimes says she is 25 now). When she first joined Oase years ago, she was great with DFK and a great attitude. Now unfortunately, she has quite a bad attitude. No kissing either, not even LFK. This is about the Amelia who used to always wear cut-off jean shorts all the time years ago. She still works at Oase now. Save your money.
On the recommend side, there's a new Beatrice working at Oase now who doesn't speak any English or German at all -- only Romanian. She has a good attitude and she's a solid recommend if you like her type. Since my Romanian isn't all that great, I brought my own translator with me in the room with her so communication wasn't a problem. She seemed quite eager to please.[/QUOTE]Amazing, Amelia is one of the girls that tried to cheat the old Italian guy at the bar. I have had the same experience with her. I think it is crazy that we all have the same experiences with the exact same girls. They have a routine act they run on guys just like street thieves and crooks.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940210]I think I was the first one to ever report on Tatiana here on this forum. Passionate yes, but no spark like I sometimes find with other girls. And believe it or not, she is the first girl I've ever been with that kisses too much. I had breathing problems towards the end and lack of oxygen. Which is bad for sex. LOL.
Strange how you find Denisa to look too old. To me she looks about 23-25. I have also never seen Denisa in a bad mood. She allways spreads good mood and smiles to everyone. Ymmv maybe. Yes Raissa has a routine. But not one bit more than Tatiana. Russians are known as great kissers though, but Tatiana doesn't get close to this russian I met at Artemis 2-3 years ago: Juliette. Much better optics too. Especially when she had her long black cowboy boots on...[/QUOTE]I think we agree. I will just correct about Denisa. Maybe it came out wrong; I never met a guy who didn't love Denisa's service. She is super sweet and always smiling true. In my opinion she looks old, but that a matter of taste.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1940154]To regulars, Oase had more than Tatiana and Elizabeth to offer. Some girls can really give great service if they know you. You just have be mindful of the sharks lie Laura and her similar who will skin you alive.[/QUOTE]No more exceptional kisser Tatiana. Ru, go to GT for her.
Elizabeth. Cz is really friendly but not high GFE.
Ina of course, but too many other top girls at the moment and I prefer to focus on girls I can meet when I want, not only twice a year, even always a great pleasure with such an angel, but also little, shy, smiling ghost. Sometimes here, often not here.
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Danny: Amelia and Amina is not the same girl. I don't even know who Amelia is though. So not sure why you quoted me there.
I also just did Laura once and only recall her tight pussy, laughter and orgasm simulation with wicked facial expressions. Nothing bad as far as I am concerned. Maybe I was lucky. Need to check her out again though she was a bit sad I didn't go with her last time.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1940199]While I am not a Oase expert, I can heartily recommend Sascha and Veronica, and MIla. I think Michelle is very pretty, but she said she DFKs only for extra money. But as far as service goes, Sascha is just amazing. Best for me in a long time. A bit like Sandra at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Can you describe Mila?
Also, michelle for you is probably chayenne. Just to remove the confusion value here. : p.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940374]Danny: Amelia and Amina is not the same girl. I don't even know who Amelia is though. So not sure why you quoted me there.
I also just did Laura once and only recall her tight pussy, laughter and orgasm simulation with wicked facial expressions. Nothing bad as far as I am concerned. Maybe I was lucky. Need to check her out again though she was a bit sad I didn't go with her last time.[/QUOTE]Sorry if I was unclear. You mentioned Amina (I know she is not Amelia) who used to work at Sharks and I was responding to that with no connection to Amelia at all. The second quote mentions Amelia who is a bad experience I agreed with and responded to that independently. Apologies for the confusion.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940377]Can you describe Mila?
Also, michelle for you is probably chayenne. Just to remove the confusion value here. : p.[/QUOTE]Not sure how much I can describe Mila. She is half Ukraine, half Russian (as I recall she claimed to me) but did she say she also carried a German passport because she grew up there? Perhaps I am mixing up with someone else. I sessioned with her just once in mid June. Not a shy girl, we fucked in the kino. I looked back at my past reports, but unfortunately that report did not contain much description of Mila. If I recall she had brownish hair, a very pretty striking face, slightly sagging but mid size tits. Spoke English well. I am pretty poor at noticing and remembering tattoos etc, and now it has been 3+ months. Sorry.
I would never have known Michelle is Chayenne. Did she change name and how did you figure it out the cross reference? She was sitting at the chairs above the jacuzzi when I met her in September, and she was by herself, and I promptly took her to the room because she was so damned pretty. Blonde, very pretty face, nice taut body, ROm, 25 years old.
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Asking for tips
I just got back from my hotel after a day trip to Oase. Been going there for years, and this was my first visit since the beginning of July. 3 out of 3 girls all asked me for tips! When did this start happening? There's always been a bit of an up-sell at Oase compared to Sharks and Mainhattan (although Oase was never as bad as Palace), but this is the first time I have had every single girl ask me for a tip at any place, and two of them pouted when I didn't tip them. I have tipped a little in the past for outstanding, above and beyond service when the girls didn't expect it, but I refuse to tip when they blatantly ask for a tip. Tipping would only enable and encourage them to ask every single punter.
The lineup was pretty good when I entered the place shortly after noon. Great ratios then too, until 3 pm when the place started getting flooded with dudes. Oase used to be one of my favorite places, but this whole tipping thing makes me want to stick to Mainhattan and Sharks when visiting Frankfurt. Pus, Mainhattan and Sharks cost less, don't require a cab, and have better food. IMHO.
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Oase live on Friday afternoon to evening
Started off slow but now the girls are piling in droves.
So so line up in my opinion but enough. Met an old hand from Germany and he was shitless of the line up so was going to go to Polhleim on Saturday instead as an alternative.
Nicoletta ex Mainhattan is still at Oase if anyone wants to know.
Not so many new girls. Laura is here too but not her sister.
A few choices to be had. I will do some more after the two sessions that I had already. Spent 500 euro already. A bit more han the 400 exclusign entrance at Sharks last night.
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Actually with the full night time line up in situ it is not so bad. The German specialist says he is bored of the line up but for the ocassional visitor you are in heaven. Lots of small brunettes and blondes with good bodies to pick from.
Adelina, Luisa, Raissa, Lots of familiar faces. Dora, Sara, Anna, Evelyn, Evelina, Katya, and and.
Besr time to be at Oase is between 6pm to 10pm as at 10pm the day shift leaves and the night shift comes in from 4pm. This is the wisdom of the German specialist and the Swiss specialist.
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Keep them names comming please. So far just sounds like a mirror of the LU 2 weeks ago. Which was a bit average. Or maybe I have revisited too often also...
Chayenne, Szanett, May, Ellie, Cami, Mira (Miru), Andre, short Adelle (not the on at 170+) still missing?
Or any new optics that stands out?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1940468]Actually with the full night time line up in situ it is not so bad. The German specialist says he is bored of the line up but for the ocassional visitor you are in heaven. Lots of small brunettes and blondes with good bodies to pick from.
Adelina, Luisa, Raissa, Lots of familiar faces. Dora, Sara, Anna, Evelyn, Evelina, Katya, and and.
Besr time to be at Oase is between 6pm to 10pm as at 10pm the day shift leaves and the night shift comes in from 4pm. This is the wisdom of the German specialist and the Swiss specialist.[/QUOTE]6-10 pm also a dancing line for a key LOL. Line up is great now (or maybe I needed a change). IMO better than sharks at the moment.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1940449]Started off slow but now the girls are piling in droves.
So so line up in my opinion but enough. Met an old hand from Germany and he was shitless of the line up so was going to go to Polhleim on Saturday instead as an alternative.
Nicoletta ex Mainhattan is still at Oase if anyone wants to know.
Not so many new girls. Laura is here too but not her sister.
A few choices to be had. I will do some more after the two sessions that I had already. Spent 500 euro already. A bit more han the 400 exclusign entrance at Sharks last night.[/QUOTE]Can you describe Nicoletta ex Mainhattan please?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940374]Danny: Amelia and Amina is not the same girl. I don't even know who Amelia is though. So not sure why you quoted me there.
[/QUOTE]With respect to Amelia, he wasn't quoting you Pistons -- rather, he was quoting me (maybe you glossed over Danny's other quote). The bottom line is stay away from this Amelia if you ever happen to run into her; you will be glad you did.
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He quoted us both. Anyway. Not important.
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Just a few more names from Oase today from my already fading memory.
Adela ro slim blonde who wore mid thigh white hold up stickings, slim body and beautifil to look at with blue eyes. Did a roaring business with Asian men.
Carmen long straight black hair, 19 years old. Has the features of actress and singer Anna Kendrick.
Two sisters (twins) that wore black frame glasses and corwets with coordinating neckerchiefs.
Denisa.
Heaps of other girls I forget.
Asian guys are all overpaying or giving the girls tips. A thressome for 1 hour and lesbian show is max 300 total but guys paid 500. Guys did anal for half hour but pays 250.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940537]He quoted us both. Anyway. Not important.[/QUOTE]Again, sorry if this was unclear, I'll quote separately going forward.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1935594]After attending sharks on Friday and Saturday, I trudged up to Oase on Sunday.
In recent past, Sharks had been my top club, but I was pleasantly surprised with Oase. I thought the girls quality was better, especially given It was Sunday.
The outdoor food facility was good. I was a bit pissed that they took off the paid pizza off the menu
Most importantly, there must have been 50/60 girls. Not bad for a Sunday. If I know the names of only a third of girls at Sharks, I know far fewer at Oase. Even the faces are new. Some girls I chatted with are below.
Antonia.
There were a couple of Asian girls, one said half Thai and half Rom, forgot her name. Another who looked more fully Asian. Never got her name. Both looked cute.
In general, girls were pretty decent. I think the average quality was better than at Sharks. And the service was definitely not bad at all. Certainly no worse than Sharks whatsoever. OK, you can say that's a small sample but it is also a random sample.
Sasha. There were a few guys and one or two naked club girls playing volleyball less than 20 feet from us, while we fucked away blithely and blissfully ignorant of them. If someone had told me when I was growing up that such a thing could happen, I would have thought them nuts, but here I was. As if it was the most natural thing to do in the world. What a life. I think my work here is done.
Thus ended my 3 day trip, one day shorter than my normal trips. Oase Sunday made up for disappointment at Sharks. 11 sessions in 3 days. I used to set a budget of 2000 euro per trip, and brought it down to 1500-1700 and on this trip, just barely made past the thousand mark. Even just 3 years ago, was doing 15-20 sessions in 4 days, now even 11 sessions in 3 days seemed like a chore. The declining productivity is quite depressing to be honest.[/QUOTE]I was there the same day as you (and stayed on until Monday and was also at Sharks on the Friday you were there). Will upload my reports soon but echo all of the above points which could have been written by me. Re Antonia, I had her and she was fantastic; the girl passing herself of as half Rom half Thai, if she is a brunette and slightly plump / puppy fat is in fact full Rom and is called Selena. I had her back in July and she's a disappointment. Finally, I have a vague recollection of a couple at it whilst others were playing volleyball which I assume was you in action! Re declining powers, I make up for it by having more threesomes or aiming for longer sessions or having a "fluffer" session. Find on a short trip or a particularly inspiring night I can manage 4 shots but 3 seems to be the average now.
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Oase yesterday
Hottie overload, excellent LU on Friday. Erika Ro for 60 min, promised DFK but didn't deliver. Karla Ro, sister of Claudia, 60 min excellent session, very GFE, would repeat. So much eye candy that I forget all the names. Anna, Rosa, Julie It / Ro, yalinka Ro blond, so many more my head spins now. Water in Jacuzzi only lukewarm, like sharks. Meh. Saunas and food was good, but ran out of roasted chicken too quickly. Lots of Asians there, stick together per usual. But lots of good punters too like poles, etc. Expensive club compared to sharks but would return regularly, good times.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1940486]Can you describe Nicoletta ex Mainhattan please?[/QUOTE]Neck lenght black straight hair, tanned, tattoos on her side and lower legs, slim build, small tight ass, small tits, beautiful features, Romanian of course. Gets guys due to her looks, does okay service if incentivised.
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Nicoletta
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1940771]Neck lenght black straight hair, tanned, tattoos on her side and lower legs, slim build, small tight ass, small tits, beautiful features, Romanian of course. Gets guys due to her looks, does okay service if incentivised.[/QUOTE]I saw a Nicoletta in March at Mainhatten. Recall her as a fit dark blonde, young and slim and had her in tandem with her friend Niki (can't recall which was he fitter one but one was really gorgeous and the other merely good looking) and they produced good service.
Saw blondes Cheyenne, Ayesha and Carla previously of Oase at Palace;.
Morena. Another blonde older than typical FKK girl and in her early 30's tanned and big natural tits albeit droopy ex Palace and Mainhatten now at Oase. Avoid as she is appalling and even complained about her attitude to the desk at Palace in Sep 2015.
Ella. Glasses, pale blonde, cheeky look ex Oase is now apparently at Mainhatten according to one of her friends which is a shame as she was one of my all-time favourites but was underwhelmed by Mainhatten.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;1940792]I saw a Nicoletta in March at Mainhatten. Recall her as a fit dark blonde, young and slim and had her in tandem with her friend Niki (can't recall which was he fitter one but one was really gorgeous and the other merely good looking) and they produced good service.
Ella. Glasses, pale blonde, cheeky look ex Oase is now apparently at Mainhatten according to one of her friends which is a shame as she was one of my all-time favourites but was underwhelmed by Mainhatten.[/QUOTE]Mainhattan has the one name policy and there was and still is one Nicoletta at Mainhattan for the last maybe four years. She has never changed to Oase. Mainhattan Nicoletta great looks, smart and funny and can perform top level.
This pale blonde with glasses is for some month already at Mainhattan, don't know her name but I know her performance now usually below average.
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;1940737]. Expensive club compared to sharks but would return regularly, good times.[/QUOTE]Buy the 6 for 4 entry cards and it is as cheap as the 20 entry cards at sharks. Pluss less binding involved. So it actually is cheaper.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940377]Can you describe Mila?
[/QUOTE]I see nobody responded to your question a few days ago, so I've lifted this from an earlier report I posted about my visit to Oase this past June:
[QUOTE=Ortos;1914143]
(Lud) Mila: Rather young (20 y. o. ?) dark-haired "Russian-German" girl, not my normal spec body wise: large, full-figured, slightly flabby. Face was okay, but not stunning, but the erotic vibe on the couch made me over-look (read: temporarily gloss over) the physical in hope of top performance. Im Zimmer: Yes we can! Above-average oral skills, both BBBJ (very good!) and (very) DFK. Tremendous erotic vibe during love-making with her, she seemed to be very engaged with me and what she was doing to me, and it was a very satisfying session. Maybe not the most stunning girl, but worth the session which I extended to 1 hour after several minutes of her intriguing BBBJ. I swore to myself I would repeat with her in a day or two when I re-visited, but interestingly I never did repeat, despite several opportunities. After she approached me again and again in future days and I failed to go with her in the room, I think she became pissed off at me and gave me cold stares. This kind of shit happens sometimes, eh?
[/QUOTE]I assume this is the same girl, but I cannot say for certain. Hope it helps.
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Ok. Wrong girl. But thanks : )
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Pistons,
I did answer your Mila question, but not a whole lot of description, I am afraid. Got to scroll down a couple of pages to see my reply.
Bewilder. Antonia is a pretty girl. I sessioned with her in March, and my report has some description of it, written in that period. Pretty girl, was quite new in the club back then. Friends with Amira who I fucked in kino with Antonia sitting nearby, after I had already sessioned with Antonia earlier. If I had more stamina in my recent visit, I would have gone with Antonia one more time, but alas.
Re: the session with Sascha in the gardens, that's what I love about FKK and Oase in particular. Fucking a girl in the open, with a bunch of naked chicks and guys playing volleyball a few feet away. As if I do this kind of thing every day, like it is the most natural thing in the world to do. Just the sheer debauchery of it is what I love about FKK clubs. I truly wish I was born in a day and place where that kinda thing happened to all people, and it would be natural and no one would bat an eyelid. But for now, I will be content with an occasional visit to Oase, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1940831]Buy the 6 for 4 entry cards and it is as cheap as the 20 entry cards at sharks. Pluss less binding involved. So it actually is cheaper.[/QUOTE]When groups of 6 or more guests comes together to Oase club the Reception is good enough to explain that they can receive a bulk discount by paying 280 for 6 entries thereby saving 140 euros between the 6 guests.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1940802]Mainhattan has the one name policy and there was and still is one Nicoletta at Mainhattan for the last maybe four years. She has never changed to Oase. Mainhattan Nicoletta great looks, smart and funny and can perform top level.
This pale blonde with glasses is for some month already at Mainhattan, don't know her name but I know her performance now usually below average.[/QUOTE]Okay, good to know Nicoletta is still at Mainhattan. She is one of my favs and I've enjoyed her with her blonde friend Nikki in tandem sessions in the past. Thanks for clearing that up!
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1940802]Mainhattan has the one name policy and there was and still is one Nicoletta at Mainhattan for the last maybe four years. She has never changed to Oase. Mainhattan Nicoletta great looks, smart and funny and can perform top level.
This pale blonde with glasses is for some month already at Mainhattan, don't know her name but I know her performance now usually below average.[/QUOTE]I've only been to Mainhatten once in March 2016 and had a session with another girl who fits that description called Paulo albeit she is slightly heavier and I'd describe her as a poor man's Ella though they obviously cost a same. Had a threesome with Paulo and another naturally busty blonde called Sara for 90 minutes. Service was good though was soured by them trying to claim more money at the locker for the "erotic massage" which I obviously refused.
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Sept 2016 tour Days 3 and 4 - Sun / Mon 11/12 Sept 2016 FKK Oase
After lunch, I got the train from Frankfurt to Friedrichsdorf which cost less than E10 and took 20 minutes. Oase has always been my favorite club in terms of facilities and girls but recently it seems to have slipped in terms of quality of the line-up hence the past couple of times, I have relegated it to the Sunday slot. I'm pleased to report it is now back and has a healthy line-up. Very few absolute stunners but they are a rarity across the board and I would say the top 3/4 in Sharks or Palace were better than their Oase counterparts but a large number of very fuckable attractive young girls with fantastic bodies. That bracket of girls is more prevalent at Oase and there must have been around 20 who fell into that category which is a healthy line up. Overall there were around 60-70 girls on the Sunday and the numbers didn't drop much on the Monday. I decided in advance to stay for two days as the weather was fantastic and Oase has the best outdoor facilities / area, less hassle continually checking in and out of hotels and with the messe thought Frankfurt hotels would be extortionate- not that Mercure was much better from a very reasonable E62 on the Sunday the rate was E164 for Monday.
7. Daniella: I got there at around 5 pm and enjoyed lounging outside until 8 pm reading a book and admiring the scenery (the lithe naked girls more than the greenery). Spotted an old favorite called Daniella who I've been with a couple of times in the past. She is tall, slim brunette, very pretty but small tits. Again has an atypical look to most FKK girls.
Booked her for an hour and generally it was a GFE with FK, went down on her for the first time and mostly enjoyed her sucking me off. I was keen to finish with sex with her and especially her cowgirl as I rate her cowgirl as the best I've had. I usually struggle to maintain my erection for too long in this position but Daniella is an exception as she starts slowly and worked up momentum and in the end it was like she was on a bucking bronco and that's how I came. E100.
8. Lara: My best Oase session on my last visit was with Lara who is a young, busty brunette with a bit of puppy fat but that is more a reflection of her age than appetite. Has a bit of a student look about her and generally an all natural look. She remembered me and it didn't take long for me to succumb to her charms.
Chalk and cheese. This session was as lacklustre as the first time with her was invigorating. It got off to a bad start with her asking what I wanted and she reeled off a list. Did I want kissing, owo and ro all of which was in the last session without any prompting and with an implication they would cost extra. I said same as last time (which was a one hour session culminating with CIM) but this time after some cursory foreplay she delivered a weak blowjob but rather than relight old fires decided to go with the flow (though did think about ending it without cumming as there were so many doable girls) and that's how I came. I don't know if it was an offday on Lara's part or she is already jaded but its a counterproductive approach. Last time we had a E150 session whereas this time she only garnered E50.
I had planned an all blonde threesome to wrap things up with possibly with the Cameron Diaz lookalike that I had read about on the ISG pages and who does actually exist (along with a Demi Moore lookalike Vika who I had last time) but for the second night on the trot a huge slumber came over me and I just felt groggy with little energy for more shenanigans. I had been a little off colour the week before my trip and I hope it was an overhang from that rather than declining powers. It seems that was the case as after a huge sleep (I got up at 3 pm) I felt rejuvenated and was back to my customary self on my last day. Again it was a lovely day so after a few hours in the sun with my book (my only regret on this trip was not getting in earlier after lunch each day), it was time to get down with a few lovelies. Overall, there were a lot of good looking girls of a similar standard with no real jaw dropping outliers so was not an easy choice but was a fun one.
9. Antonia and Vanessa: Eventually plumped for Antonia who is a medium sized blonde. I mean that in the nicest way in terms of height, weight and tits and facially she is attractive. Perhaps not immediately eyeboggling beautiful but close up she grew on me and was easier to appreciate and coupled with her pleasant demeanour I was confident it was going to be a good session. I was way below budget and like to have a daily threesome in any event so we picked up her friend who was a very petite and demure brunette with curly hair and dark skin, small tits and facially pretty.
Together they made a nice contrast and I was hopeful it would be a memorable threesome and I'm pleased to say that was the case. I spent a lot of time devouring both of their tits and at one point got one of each in my mouth at the same time, they pampered me the best they could and I did feel indulged. Both aimed to please and had a good laugh with Antonia who has good English and sense of humour whereas Vanessa doesn't speak much English. It didn't take me long to tell them I'd be extending to an hour which made met with their approval. Much of the session consisted off them taking turns sucking me off whilst the other fed me her tits or nuzzled on my chest. Both were good though I'd say Antonia was the better and overall I was quite taken with her and decided to finish with sex with her. I did her doggy with Vanessa first feeling my arse from bhind before moving around so I could suck on her tits and have her nuzzling on my nipples for extra stimulation and that is how I finished. I would definitely see Antonia again. E200.
10. Emily: I keep a note where I list my conquests before writing up later. I can see the words "Emily 100" but I can't remember what she looks like or what we did! I couldn't tell you now nearly 2 weeks later whether she was blonde or brunette or what we did. Maybe I do indulge too much. What I do remember is she was attractive and I had a good time as I recall being happy with all my choices on the last day so thank you generic FKK girl Emily! I suspect I either had 1 hour mainly consisting on owo or 30 minutes with CIM. Either way, I know I had a good time and I guess that's what counts! Can anyone shed light on what she might look like! E100.
11. Nicole and Laura: All things being equal I opt for blondes on my FKK tours over brunettes given the prevalence of the latter in Dubai. For my last act I chose Nicole who is an attractive blonde and wore glasses giving her that naughty secretary / schoolteacher look I so adore. She is heavily tattooed on her left shoulder and arm so easily recognisable and has a good body with a nice natural pair.
All I'm fit for at the end of a tour is to have a blowjob and told Nicole in advance. She approached her task with enthusiasm and gave her best coming in from different angles, speeds and varying amount of suction. I did fancy her and so it was a visual treat but try as she could, she just couldn't manage to get me off. Fifteen minutes in she suggested bringing in another girl and I asked her if she had someone particular in mind in case I knew her. She said Rosa who I knew from last time as an attractive blonde with great cock sucking skills as she got me off in a similar scenario last time. She was obviously not around and instead she presented Laura. Laura is a slim, young looking brunette with long hair, small tits and facially looks a bit like Selena Gomez. She's been around for a while as I remember her from 2014. Laura got working on my cock straight away and I'd say her blowie was even better than Nicole's. With Nicole stimulating my nipples with her mouth and presenting her tits for me to feast on, I could feel myself nearing completion. They swapped places so got to gorge on Laura's body whilst Nicole sucked me to (she didn't take CIM or invite it when I told her I was about to cum). Some post-coital bliss entwined with the two followed to take it to the 30 minutes mark and it was just the way I wanted the last session to end. E100.
Overall, I'm glad to report that Oase is back to being the club that first drew me into the world of FKKs and for me Frankfurt remains the best place in the world for this hobby. I've been lucky to make 3 visits this year and suspect it will be next Summer before I get another opportunity.
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Great report! Thanks!
[QUOTE=BeWilder;1940959]After lunch, I got the train from Frankfurt to Friedrichsdorf which cost less than E10 and took 20 minutes. Oase has always been my favorite club in terms of facilities and girls but recently it seems to have slipped in terms of quality of the line-up hence the past couple of times, I have relegated it to the Sunday slot. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1940397]
I would never have known Michelle is Chayenne. Did she change name and how did you figure it out the cross reference? She was sitting at the chairs above the jacuzzi when I met her in September, and she was by herself, and I promptly took her to the room because she was so damned pretty. Blonde, very pretty face, nice taut body, ROm, 25 years old.[/QUOTE]Michelle / Chayenne is also Carla from GT which is where she started years ago. Known then as an optifik.
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Blond white skin Ella is at Mainhattan since 1 year. She took weight.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1941006]Michelle / Chayenne is also Carla from GT which is where she started years ago. Known then as an optifik.[/QUOTE]And Darla LR, and was also working at Globe, but she is really friendly and speaks a bit of french. But not woman look enough for me, like most of Oase girls, more little girls look and behavior, like pretty Laura, playful Maya, Angie, small brunette Carla big tits. Blond Roxana looks like a woman, shy Ina also, Maria platinum was a woman look.
Karin, Agnes, at Sharks, look like women.
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Newbie to FKKs
Visiting Frankfurt for a Friday and Saturday. Arrive around 11 am at the airport and have to make my way.
Bcos I have only 2 days, I am only thinking FKK Oase. Should I split with one other place. (I have read most pages on the site).
Would experts recommend sharks or Mainhattan or palace? For the second day. Or just spend both days at Oase. I like eastern European, blondes.
My understanding is E50 gets you the basic. E100 for 1 hour may get you kissing? (will this wet kissing).
Oral will this be with condoms or without.
Is Anal extra.
I have a good experiences with Rio and there none of these Menu is widely sold. For extras. Is it the other way around.
Finally. What would be a good place to stay. Friday and Saturday mongering. As much as possible and Sunday 10 am flight back home.
Should I rent a car or uber / taxi is good? To come from airport etc.
Help is appreciated. As I get limited time to get on the computer privately at home.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1941006]Michelle / Chayenne is also Carla from GT which is where she started years ago. Known then as an optifik.[/QUOTE]Jnpr: I have read you describe her before and named her Michelle. And it is deffinately her (tinker bell). One of the prettiest faces around for sure.... and still natural good body too.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;1940959]After lunch, I got the train from Frankfurt to Friedrichsdorf which cost less than E10 and took 20 minutes. Oase has always been my favorite club in terms of facilities and girls but recently it seems to have slipped in terms of quality of the line-up hence the past couple of times, I have relegated it to the Sunday slot. I'm pleased to report it is now back and has a healthy line-up. Very few absolute stunners but they are a rarity across the board and I would say the top 3/4 in Sharks or Palace were better than their Oase counterparts but a large number of very fuckable attractive young girls with fantastic bodies. That bracket of girls is more prevalent at Oase and there must have been around 20 who fell into that category which is a healthy line up. Overall there were around 60-70 girls on the Sunday and the numbers didn't drop much on the Monday. I decided in advance to stay for two days as the weather was fantastic and Oase has the best outdoor facilities / area, less hassle continually checking in and out of hotels and with the messe thought Frankfurt hotels would be extortionate- not that Mercure was much better from a very reasonable E62 on the Sunday the rate was E164 for Monday.
7. Daniella: I got there at around 5 pm and enjoyed lounging outside until 8 pm reading a book and admiring the scenery (the lithe naked girls more than the greenery). Spotted an old favorite called Daniella who I've been with a couple of times in the past. She is tall, slim brunette, very pretty but small tits. Again has an atypical look to most FKK girls..[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report I hear LU not just in Oase, but in FKK are better in colder months than hot, like I hear in winter LU is better.
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Pistons. Good catch. You must be a true Oase expert to make that x reference. I am a bit surprised I never saw her before, as she said she has been at Oase for two years and I have visited at least 5 or 6 times in this time, and hers is not a face I will forget. Oh man, what a beauty. And service was not bad. Too bad I ran into her so late in my trip.
BeWilder. Sounds like your Antonia is different from mine. There must be two of them then. The one I was talking about is a petite (160-165 cm), brunette, hair below shoulders, nice medium size tits, and pretty face. Also, she spoke very little English.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1941070]Pistons. Good catch. You must be a true Oase expert to make that x reference. I am a bit surprised I never saw her before, as she said she has been at Oase for two years and I have visited at least 5 or 6 times in this time, and hers is not a face I will forget. Oh man, what a beauty. And service was not bad. Too bad I ran into her so late in my trip.
BeWilder. Sounds like your Antonia is different from mine. There must be two of them then. The one I was talking about is a petite (160-165 cm), brunette, hair below shoulders, nice medium size tits, and pretty face. Also, she spoke very little English.[/QUOTE]Haha, sure.
Only missed her once the past 12 months myself. Pluss one Tuesday, but she doesn't normally work Mon / tuesdays. She has been discussed here on isg a couple of times already though, so no expertise needed. She is famous you can say...
I agree her service is pretty good. She does sometimes get bad remarks form some people though. So perhaps she is not the same with all (like with PL, lol). But if you get chemistry with her, she is perhaps the smartest FKK girl I know and service is top. She also reads minds, so be carefull, LOL:).
I know the same Antonia as you. She is fairly new there though. Slightly saggy tits and young. Didn't get the chemistry with her right myself, but she is really good looking too.
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FRA recommendations
[QUOTE=MRusa007;1941012]Visiting Frankfurt for a Friday and Saturday. Arrive around 11 am at the airport and have to make my way.
Bcos I have only 2 days, I am only thinking FKK Oase. Should I split with one other place. (I have read most pages on the site).
Would experts recommend sharks or Mainhattan or palace? For the second day. Or just spend both days at Oase. I like eastern European, blondes.
My understanding is E50 gets you the basic. E100 for 1 hour may get you kissing? (will this wet kissing).
Oral will this be with condoms or without.
Is Anal extra.
I have a good experiences with Rio and there none of these Menu is widely sold. For extras. Is it the other way around.
Finally. What would be a good place to stay. Friday and Saturday mongering. As much as possible and Sunday 10 am flight back home.
Should I rent a car or uber / taxi is good? To come from airport etc.
Help is appreciated. As I get limited time to get on the computer privately at home.[/QUOTE]Prices have been covered extensively on the forum, so you say you have read most pages on the site, but it does not seem that you have from your questions. Anyway, to help with your first trip:
1 - Oase is nice, but I personally recommend Sharks also. With only 2 days, I would not recommend Place or Manhattan. But every man has his own tastes, so other men may feel differently.
2 - Oral is provided without condoms, but if you want condom for oral, then you can use one.
3 - I like to have a car, but taxis are fine also. If you plan to drink alcohol at the clubs, then it is better to take a taxi. The main reason I like to rent a car is that I do not like the food at most clubs, so I usually leave for meals, then come back.
4 - Prices are 50 eur for every 30 minutes. Kissing is included with some girls, but you should talk with the girl before going to a room to make sure. Some girls will not do kissing, or will want to charge extra (or require minimum 1 hour).
5 - Anal is extra 100 eur (so 30 minutes with anal is 150 eur, 1 hour with anal is 200 eur).
6 - I like to stay near Hauptbanhopf (central train station), because there are many places for breakfast and convenient for non-club activities. You can read the forums for guidance on specific hotels, or just use a travel site to find hotels in the area. There are also hotels closer to some of the clubs, if you prefer to minimize travel time.
Enjoy.
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Anal quoted as 150 euro extra
There have been times oft past that girls have been quoting anal sex as 150 euro extra. When I have responded that the extra of anal is 100 euros extra I see an indignant reaction and the claim I am wrong and even check with Reception. This goes back to girls can set their own prices with some prices to date being a guide and not the rule.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1941141]There have been times oft past that girls have been quoting anal sex as 150 euro extra. When I have responded that the extra of anal is 100 euros extra I see an indignant reaction and the claim I am wrong and even check with Reception. This goes back to girls can set their own prices with some prices to date being a guide and not the rule.[/QUOTE]Yes, 150 seems to be the asking price, and reception will back them up. If I am asked for 150 then the girl must think I am dim. In FKK one shouldn't pay for than 50 extra unless one has spare money to give away, or is desperate. At brothels it is easy to get full sex including anal for not much more than 60 euros; I. E. About 120 to 140 euros cheaper.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1941141]There have been times oft past that girls have been quoting anal sex as 150 euro extra. When I have responded that the extra of anal is 100 euros extra I see an indignant reaction and the claim I am wrong and even check with Reception. This goes back to girls can set their own prices with some prices to date being a guide and not the rule.[/QUOTE]But do You know girls who are really able to provide with other than Asian size?
On Summer 2014, some girls asked 200 at Oase, blond Melissa with bad stockings, asked 100 extra but said after 30 seconds: You kill my ass, so 100 for 30 seconds. At Wellcum. At, with a real Italian woman body, impossible to enter deep. I remember to fuck my beloved Vasilisa deep for half and hour, and she was 50 kgs, but a real Russian woman ass.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1941156]Yes, 150 seems to be the asking price, and reception will back them up. If I am asked for 150 then the girl must think I am dim. In FKK one shouldn't pay for than 50 extra unless one has spare money to give away, or is desperate. At brothels it is easy to get full sex including anal for not much more than 60 euros; I. E. About 120 to 140 euros cheaper.[/QUOTE]At Aldi / Dietzenbach you get anal for 30 euro in total. And what does that mean, that means only the girls aren't a standard product but they are individual human beings. Many P6 girls I wouldn't fuck for free and each one has for me an induvitual value. So some girls worth for me 100 Euro extra for anal and some they aren't for me. Usually I pay for the club girls 100 euro extra for anal, sometimes I refuse a higher offer of 150 or even 200 euro extra and in some cases girls I really want anal refused even higher offers from me. So is life.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1941084]I agree her service is pretty good. She does sometimes get bad remarks form some people though. So perhaps she is not the same with all (like with PL, lol). But if you get chemistry with her, she is perhaps the smartest FKK girl I know and service is top. She also reads minds, so be carefull, LOL:).
[/QUOTE]You know, I never been with Cheyanne, so I don't know what your reference to me is all about. She's been around, various clubs before arriving at Oase. She's pretty friendly with everybody like I've stated, so I can see her doing well business wise. Very pretty, not really. She looks cute. Short petite type if she is one's type she could be highly attractive.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1941011]And Darla LR, and was also working at Globe, but she is really friendly and speaks a bit of french. But not woman look enough for me, like most of Oase girls, more little girls look and behavior, like pretty Laura, playful Maya, Angie, small brunette Carla big tits. Blond Roxana looks like a woman, shy Ina also, Maria platinum was a woman look.
Karin, Agnes, at Sharks, look like women.[/QUOTE]Siri has the right idea, smilar to my thoughts when it comes to looks. Never met/seen Karin so I dunno about her.
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Maybe I read you wrong then, or maybe it was someone else. Nevermind then.
I seem to usually agree with Siri in looks in 2 out of 3 cases too. But someone like Megan I see nothing in, and he finds Mandy to look a bit too plain also. So not allways.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1941159]But do You know girls who are really able to provide with other than Asian size?
On Summer 2014, some girls asked 200 at Oase, blond Melissa with bad stockings, asked 100 extra but said after 30 seconds: You kill my ass, so 100 for 30 seconds. At Wellcum. At, with a real Italian woman body, impossible to enter deep. I remember to fuck my beloved Vasilisa deep for half and hour, and she was 50 kgs, but a real Russian woman ass.[/QUOTE]Yup. These girls take all comers and not just expatriates. These girls have been pandering to your self subscribed prejudices to make you feel good. Its working is it not? So there you go.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1941059]Thank you for the report I hear LU not just in Oase, but in FKK are better in colder months than hot, like I hear in winter LU is better.[/QUOTE]Any reason line ups would be better in winter? That might be the case but living in Dubai, I time my FKK visits in the summer to escape the Dubai heat and enjoy some European summer climate which is why lounging around in the green surroundings is a part of my experience. The climate is also a reason why despite being halfway between Frankfurt and Bangkok, I always choose Frankfurt (the other reason being I prefer the variety Romanian girls offer as there is a greater range of looks compared to Thais). Winters are lovely in Dubai so wouldn't contemplate a winter FKK tour unless I happened to be passing through on business.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1941416]Siri has the right idea, smilar to my thoughts when it comes to looks. Never met/seen Karin so I dunno about her.[/QUOTE]If you knew Karin Sharks, what a woman body, pretty face and nice girl, but she didn't return after Easter.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;1941475]Any reason line ups would be better in winter? That might be the case but living in Dubai, I time my FKK visits in the summer to escape the Dubai heat and enjoy some European summer climate which is why lounging around in the green surroundings is a part of my experience. The climate is also a reason why despite being halfway between Frankfurt and Bangkok, I always choose Frankfurt (the other reason being I prefer the variety Romanian girls offer as there is a greater range of looks compared to Thais). Winters are lovely in Dubai so wouldn't contemplate a winter FKK tour unless I happened to be passing through on business.[/QUOTE]Well there is one big winter holiday which begin around 15 or 18th of December, they go home for Christmas and do not return till like end of January right? Most do not work over Christmas and new year. Therefore, it is quite long holiday, so girls try to save up last cash before that long winter holiday with family, whether girls are eastern European or Germans, so it made me think LU are better in winter month like first two weeks of December. My random tough.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1941442]Yup. These girls take all comers and not just expatriates. These girls have been pandering to your self subscribed prejudices to make you feel good. Its working is it not? So there you go.[/QUOTE]I wanted to mean: are girls who sell anal, really able to provide for normal size? Or is the most expensive for smallest size?
Oase girls are so used to fuck Asians, Italians, or Americans. I regret not to have tried with Suginella with ass getting more and more fat.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1941417]I seem to usually agree with Siri in looks in 2 out of 3 cases too. But someone like Megan I see nothing in, and he finds Mandy to look a bit too plain also. So not allways.[/QUOTE]Round pretty face with beautiful eyes and teeth, not smoking breathe, natural firm body, no silicon, good care for body and hands and feet nails, for my tastes, but don t claim to get the truth.
Megan face and care, on Diana, Karin, Beatrice or even Janine body.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1941006]Michelle / Chayenne is also Carla from GT which is where she started years ago. Known then as an optifik.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pistons;1941022]Jnpr: I have read you describe her before and named her Michelle. And it is deffinately her (tinker bell). One of the prettiest faces around for sure.... and still natural good body too.[/QUOTE]He listed a Cheyenne separately from Michelle. There is a different Cheyenne?
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1935594]Some girls I chatted with are below.
Antonia.
Aida.
Adele.
Hadina.
Evelyn.
Becky.
Tanya.
Cleo.
Claudia.
Vicky.
Maya.
[b]Cheyenne.[/b]
Helena.
Sasha.
Raissa.
[b]Michelle.[/b]
Laura.
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Got searches to work again. Seems it was tanktank and maybe also syz / yama that got it confused. Anyway, there are many cheyennes. Got one at sharks, palace etc. Who knows? Cheyenne changes clothes alot too, so could be jnpr was so knocked out after a fuck that he thought he had found a new girl. .
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1941617]I wanted to mean: are girls who sell anal, really able to provide for normal size? Or is the most expensive for smallest size?
Oase girls are so used to fuck Asians, Italians, or Americans. I regret not to have tried with Suginella with ass getting more and more fat.[/QUOTE]Maybe this is a question for the anal lovers like The Cane to answer or Italians and Americans since you are lumping them altogether now.
All I know is that there are guys including expatriates who are buggering and sodomising these girls in all their holes.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1941617]I wanted to mean: are girls who sell anal, really able to provide for normal size? Or is the most expensive for smallest size?
Oase girls are so used to fuck Asians, Italians, or Americans. I regret not to have tried with Suginella with ass getting more and more fat.[/QUOTE]You need to define normal size because from your choice of words, it seems like normal is 20 cm and that is far from normal. However, most girls that do anal can take average plus. But, if they don't know you, they will say OK I will do anal and then they will let you in after a 5 minute struggle and then slow slow for a minute and then you will pay for anal and you did not really fuck. So this is something you must clarify with the girl. Every girl treats every customer differently. Think of an auction negotiation where you have an established dealing connection of price setting as opposed to a 16 yr old buying his first car at a used car dealership.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;1940959]
10. Emily: I keep a note where I list my conquests before writing up later. I can see the words "Emily 100" but I can't remember what she looks like or what we did! I couldn't tell you now nearly 2 weeks later whether she was blonde or brunette or what we did. Maybe I do indulge too much. What I do remember is she was attractive and I had a good time as I recall being happy with all my choices on the last day so thank you generic FKK girl Emily! I suspect I either had 1 hour mainly consisting on owo or 30 minutes with CIM. Either way, I know I had a good time and I guess that's what counts! Can anyone shed light on what she might look like! E100.
.[/QUOTE]This is bugging me for some reason. Does anyone know what this Emily might look like?
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1941958]You need to define normal size because from your choice of words, it seems like normal is 20 cm and that is far from normal. However, most girls that do anal can take average plus. But, if they don't know you, they will say OK I will do anal and then they will let you in after a 5 minute struggle and then slow slow for a minute and then you will pay for anal and you did not really fuck. So this is something you must clarify with the girl. Every girl treats every customer differently. Think of an auction negotiation where you have an established dealing connection of price setting as opposed to a 16 yr old buying his first car at a used car dealership.[/QUOTE]Fully on line with you that 20 seems not to be the standard, I have 18 and for some girls it is big. Concerning anal what I do with a new girl in the room if she proposes it and I would like to do it I will go ahead, with my regulars if I would like to do (sometimes I never done it with her even after more than 10 sessions) I will ask her and usually she will not refuse and will always do her best to provide the best service possible. I also notice that even in that case, the girl in a next session will propose it, I will have to ask again. With the escorts it is a another story because usually they do less anal (get he same money) specially the younger one, and I faced some difficulties because they told me I was too big but always at the end it was working.
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Snow White and the 7 Dwarves re-enactment
On Saturday I was with 6 other friends making 7 men. So we decided to look for Snow White to make something with the 7 of us together. It was going to be Snow White and the 7 Dwarves. The girl had to have black hair like in the Disney cartoon.
So girls came to us and the offer was 350 euro for half hour nornal session with all 7 guys together at the same time. So one in her mouth, one in pussy and one in her ass and one in each hand getting hand job and one each in each of her ears or maybe using the soles of her feet to fuck. Well it was hard to get any girl to agree. It seems no girl want to earn 350 euro in half a hour.
So we then changed the deal to offer for one hour and anal sex only. All we want is to fuck her ass so for each man he had to pay 200 euro. So for the 7 men to fuck her ass taking turns was 1400 euro for the girl to take on 7 men in one session. So we went around the club and girls came to us and we would ask if she was happy to earn 1400 euro in one hour but we wanted to all go together and only take her ass.
Once again it was difficult to find one girl that want to earn 1400 euro for 1 hour working.
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Bitumen, great report. Did you actually find one?
The girls (especially Romanians) in FKKs tend to have rules in their head about what is "correct", and are not easily persuaded to change.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1941879]Got searches to work again. Seems it was tanktank and maybe also syz / yama that got it confused. Anyway, there are many cheyennes. Got one at sharks, palace etc. Who knows? Cheyenne changes clothes alot too, so could be jnpr was so knocked out after a fuck that he thought he had found a new girl. .[/QUOTE]Very petite cutie blonde short haired Cheyenne at Oase (don't know the right spelling. Some wrote Shayenne or something like that), with pussy piercing. Quite pretty, and meant to try, but I never tried her. Others have supplied her other names at other clubs. I know little of that. Used to hang out with brunette Carla, I think.
Sorry if caused any confusion in that I called her "Tinkerbell" when I first met her as did not know her correct name. Not sure if the joke came from me or the girl now, but certainly reminded me of a small fairy.
Since, JNPR lists both Cheyenne and Michelle, he must be referring to multiple girls. There is always the possibility of multiple users of the same name, or getting names slightly wrong.
I don't recall any other Cheyennes at Oase in recent years, but certainly at other clubs, yes.
What all the alternative names are correctly, matters little, as long as can work out if two guys are discussing the same girl or not.
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Calling her Tinkerbell is perhaps the best description one can make. Hehe.
(She has a Tinkerbell tatoo, which should also make it easy for jnpr to say if it was her, or another 'Michelle' )
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1935594]
There were a couple of Asian girls, one said half Thai and half Rom, forgot her name. Another who looked more fully Asian. Never got her name. Both looked cute.
[/QUOTE]Alexa is a very short girl supposedly half Thai and half Romanian, however, it is likely / possible that there is no Thai blood in her at all. She does not look Asian to me (don't see the eye slant), and she has been overheard to say she 100% something other than Thai (in German language). Makes good service but is not quite my spec.
May from Philippines is extremely pretty for me and gave me an incredible GFE as I serviced her for a bit over the hour I estimate, plus additional warm up chat couch time for free. Definite repeat for me but not necessarily for everyone. More about fabulous fun than about great skills. Probably not for the guy who just wants to lie back and get serviced.
My favorite girl in club for full package of looks, GFE, stamina and service is little brunette Carla (for more than 30 minutes booking). Just keeps getting better. Stupidly, I took a long time to try her. Some guys asked me how come? LOL.
Ina is a great girl (lovely pussy LOL), when working, even for 30 minutes booking.
All of these girls seemed to be in high demand. It is known that they are good.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1942138]Calling her Tinkerbell is perhaps the best description one can make. Hehe.
(She has a Tinkerbell tatoo)[/QUOTE]Thanks for reminding me of the reason. I forgot that.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1942111]
Once again it was difficult to find one girl that want to earn 1400 euro for 1 hour working.[/QUOTE]You mean to say, you could not find even one money hungry girl in the whole club? LOL.
Christina (when she was here) put up with me taking her for a whole two hours outside in a tent with quite lengthy fucking (although not up the ass) and DATY LOL.
Looks like the girls would rather do 7 times 15 min Asian customers, with extra 50 for kissing and still only make 700.
Shows how much girls hate being fucked in the ass I guess, unless its very quick and easy? I suppose I would not accept 1400 to be fucked in the ass for a full hour, so I don't blame them. I don't like any girl to even finger my ass. Have a big ass phobia. I happily finger girls' asses if they happen to like it though.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1941958]You need to define normal size because from your choice of words, it seems like normal is 20 cm and that is far from normal. However, most girls that do anal can take average plus. But, if they don't know you, they will say OK I will do anal and then they will let you in after a 5 minute struggle and then slow slow for a minute and then you will pay for anal and you did not really fuck. So this is something you must clarify with the girl. Every girl treats every customer differently. Think of an auction negotiation where you have an established dealing connection of price setting as opposed to a 16 yr old buying his first car at a used car dealership.[/QUOTE]Girls say to you, I'm so big? 20 cm? Long or large? So I compete with my friend, little blond horse, I understand better now why no girl propose me anal even for 100 extra. Fortunately some girls say they prefer to feel something, about how large, not length which is more a problem, if not rude of course. Madi, Megan, KateAca, Isabella vagina should get a medal for weekly resistance, sometimes 3 times in 12 hours, but I was sometimes her only client in empty night, so she was very free with fresh vagina and friendly behavior, waiting I recover, to repeat.
For Western Caucasian Europeans, average size is said to be 12,5 cm. Under FKK showers, many guys are small size, below big belly. Romanian BF / pimp also seem small size and no balls, to make their GF being fucked by other guys.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1942164]Girls say to you, I'm so big? 20 cm? Long or large? So I compete with my friend, little blond horse, I understand better now why no girl propose me anal even for 100 extra. Fortunately some girls say they prefer to feel something, about how large, not length which is more a problem, if not rude of course. Madi, Megan, KateAca, Isabella vagina should get a medal for weekly resistance, sometimes 3 times in 12 hours, but I was sometimes her only client in empty night, so she was very free with fresh vagina and friendly behavior, waiting I recover, to repeat.
For Western Caucasian Europeans, average size is said to be 12,5 cm. Under FKK showers, many guys are small size, below big belly. Romanian BF / pimp also seem small size and no balls, to make their GF being fucked by other guys.[/QUOTE]About and with who are you competing? Why not taking the things easy, and just try to enjoy the life and the girls in the FKK. Does 20, or 12 matter at all, you can be a asshole with 20 and a very good lover with 8.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1942164]Girls say to you, I'm so big? 20 cm? Long or large? So I compete with my friend, little blond horse, I understand better now why no girl propose me anal even for 100 extra. Fortunately some girls say they prefer to feel something, about how large, not length which is more a problem,.[/QUOTE]May fit for a lot of girls, but there are also some club girls don't have any problem with big dicks at anal. Try world class girl (optic, service, behavior) Julie at Palace, 20 cm at anal is a piece of cake for her.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1942164]Girls say to you, I'm so big? 20 cm? Long or large? So I compete with my friend, little blond horse, I understand better now why no girl propose me anal even for 100 extra. Fortunately some girls say they prefer to feel something, about how large, not length which is more a problem, if not rude of course. Madi, Megan, KateAca, Isabella vagina should get a medal for weekly resistance, sometimes 3 times in 12 hours, but I was sometimes her only client in empty night, so she was very free with fresh vagina and friendly behavior, waiting I recover, to repeat.
For Western Caucasian Europeans, average size is said to be 12,5 cm. Under FKK showers, many guys are small size, below big belly. Romanian BF / pimp also seem small size and no balls, to make their GF being fucked by other guys.[/QUOTE]I am not getting the long blonde horse reference, LOL. Most girls have no problem with 20 cm in pussy. Easy for them. But, anal is a different story. Madi was a delight. I agree. Is she anywhere to be found now or 100% quit?
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1942347]May fit for a lot of girls, but there are also some club girls don't have any problem with big dicks at anal. Try world class girl (optic, service, behavior) Julie at Palace, 20 cm at anal is a piece of cake for her.[/QUOTE]Danny wrote my norm seem to be 20, I never claimed I am, but I can say many guys are small size in FKK, easier for girls. Except Sabina and Danny, we don't seem to have same taste for beauty, no tattoo nor silicon for me, and behavior, I prefer sweet GF rather than hard sex. Big but soft.
What I wanted to mean is many girls who claim to provide anal are just not able if you are not Asian size.
To Bitumen, Oase girls know Italians give tips like Americans, tips are easy money, they just have to ask for.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1942139]Alexa is a very short girl supposedly half Thai and half Romanian, however, it is likely / possible that there is no Thai blood in her at all. She does not look Asian to me (don't see the eye slant), and she has been overheard to say she 100% something other than Thai (in German language). Makes good service but is not quite my spec.
.[/QUOTE]I was with Alexa a number of times, and I believe she probably is part Asian. Whether she looks like she is seems variable depending on the angle. Not a so called "stunner" but really fun and a great lay. Is she still around anywhere?
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Seen her (Alexa) many times at Oase. Don't think she has left. She is mentionned on the german forum on the LU on the 13th sept too...
There is another asian girl at Oase too (aside from half Alexa and phi May) who is allways around. Think she is about 30, still good looks, but I don't know her name.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1942416]I was with Alexa a number of times, and I believe she probably is part Asian. Whether she looks like she is seems variable depending on the angle. Not a so called "stunner" but really fun and a great lay. Is she still around anywhere?[/QUOTE]Good job on the pictures. Where did you get them? She is around. She is not my specs as well, but service is good. I tried her once. She just did public sex in the round bed in the kino on the weekend and not for the first time. I don't buy her Asian act. She is Romanian. But sweet girl with good service and no upselling or cheating attempts. I would recommend her service and like Syzy, not my specs as well.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1942416]I was with Alexa a number of times, and I believe she probably is part Asian. Whether she looks like she is seems variable depending on the angle. Not a so called "stunner" but really fun and a great lay. Is she still around anywhere?[/QUOTE]100% Ziguener (German) for Gypsy. She now has implants, perky little implants.
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1942466]100% Ziguener (German) for Gypsy. She now has implants, perky little implants.[/QUOTE]Her sillies are quite well done though. When she told me she was going to have this work done, I was worried she would get something too big. But they are in fact appropriately sized and not at all overdone.
I have never been to the room with her but I have chatted with her many times. She is one of the friendliest, sweetest girls at Oase. She consistently gets positive reviews from everyone who sessions with her though. So, if she is your type, you should definitely go to the room with her.
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Sorry for any unintended confusion re: Cheyenne and Michelle. I wrote down the names on my phone during a break, so I stand by the names but I can't recall how Cheyenne looked now. And I already admitted I suck at remembering tattoos etc, even my favorite girls like Aylice or Tatiana or Megan, if asked to describe to describe their tattoos I will flunk spectacularly. So, I don't remember Michelle's tattoos. I won't describe as petite as she was a good 165-170 cm far as I remember and no pussy ring that I can recall. But since I don't do DATY, and the room lighting was dim, if the pussy ring was small I could have missed it.
Bitumen. That's quite an offer. Were you guys just testing waters and were you prepared to actually do it if a girl agreed? Why not go to a gangbang party for that sort of thing?
A couple of decades ago, when I lived in LA, one porn company advertised to have regular Joe's from the street to participate in a gangbang with some Asian porn chick. I think they needed 40 guys I think. I was young and horny and was tempted to go, but chickened out the last min, thank goodness (if I had gone, and that tape out there, my career would be over today). I heard guys took turn fucking the girl for a few min at a time or sucked for a min or so, and were otherwise jacking to keep themselves stiff. A true sausage fest. That sort of thing must be a lot more common in SF valley these days.
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1941686]He listed a Cheyenne separately from Michelle. There is a different Cheyenne?[/QUOTE]Raissa is the one from Czech Republic working in World? She is in Oase now or where?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1942368]I am not getting the long blonde horse reference, LOL. Most girls have no problem with 20 cm in pussy. Easy for them. But, anal is a different story. Madi was a delight. I agree. Is she anywhere to be found now or 100% quit?[/QUOTE]I didn't mean horse tail, but my German, horse size, friend, he doesn't speak English, I don't speak German, so it's funny, but we play together each time we meet.
I don't think many girls are able to have 20 cm in vagina, certainly not Madi, nor Liza. De at GT who wanted to play porn star, but asked me to stop after 1 minute, because painful. With Madi, since our second room on 1st August 2014 , and I said to her I will not come for Ibiza party on next day, I had to be careful for our many rooms after, so, if it's not my respect for her, it was at least to try not to hurt her.
Since my last room with her, so many guys who read me, wanted to give me information, if I believe them, I could run to close to NL border, Sarrebrucken or Stuttgart, when she was not even able to drive to Oase or Sharks, when she had very slow business at empty World.
As I often wrote, at more than 30 yo, I just wish her the best life, to never need to return to be fucked in brothels, she didn't came to Germany for this, but her German life was a failure, she deserves better than this, at least I wish her.
After her, I had Sara on August, Kate on September, Isabella again on July and now Valentina. FKK are like nature, an old animal die, a young animal is born.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1942416]I was with Alexa a number of times, and I believe she probably is part Asian. Whether she looks like she is seems variable depending on the angle. Not a so called "stunner" but really fun and a great lay. Is she still around anywhere?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Comvos2002;1942549]Raissa is the one from Czech Republic working in World? She is in Oase now or where?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Different Raissa. World Raissa is not back.
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2 photos
[QUOTE=Danny227;1942440]Good job on the pictures. Where did you get them?[/QUOTE]She was at another, less well known, FKK prior to Oase and they had a bunch of pictures of her on their website. I can't remember which one that was though. She told me she was mad they still used them. I had at that point seen her on a number of different visits. I told her that one night I had a good wank to her photos. She slapped my face and said "What?! And you did not pay me!" Fortunately we both had a good laugh after that. And then I took her to a room and banged the hell out of her.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1942939]She was at another, less well known, FKK prior to Oase and they had a bunch of pictures of her on their website. I can't remember which one that was though. [/QUOTE]FKK Darling in Nidderau. I posted the link months ago.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1942368]I am not getting the long blonde horse reference, LOL. Most girls have no problem with 20 cm in pussy. Easy for them. But, anal is a different story. [/QUOTE]Have to agree with Sirioja on this one. Many girls cannot take 20 cm in vagina easily. Perhaps might be able to, if penetration starts little by little till they get used it, and stretch. 20 cm is close to 8 inches (I am not that big myself). Average length of vagina is 8 to 11 cm. It is true that vagina is able to stretch greatly up to 200%, when aroused, however some girls have excessively short vaginas, and they may not be at all aroused. Also uterus is a short way in, easily reachable with finger. Any crashing against uterus can do damage. A long dick has to go very far past the uterus, like to double the depth of the uterus.
Girls scared of deep penetration can be encountered quite often, perhaps bruised or damaged already, resulting in the seized up stiff straight legs syndrome. If girls spread the legs wide and relaxed, this indicates lack of being scared of it. Other girls have been known to use a hand to limit penetration.
Some girls with baby have been stiched up too tightly by doctor, others are much easier to penetrate after they had a baby.
Judith was a good example of a girl with very small pussy (too small for me). Plenty of other dick scared girls met.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1942428]
There is another asian girl at Oase too (aside from half Alexa and phi May) who is allways around. Think she is about 30, still good looks, but I don't know her name.[/QUOTE]Kim (Thai) is quite tall and worked at Oase for many years, somewhat part time (maybe for pocket money). My only session was a very long time ago. I guess chemistry wasn't working. Being able to speak Thai did not help the chemistry at all. I got on well with all other Thai girls at Oase except for Patee (Patrizia) who made it clear there would be no point in us making a session as she does not do GFE. She had been raised in Germany so her personality was not very Thai at all. So I would call her a German girl stuck in a Thai body.
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I wouldn't say she is tall. So perhaps it is Patee. She doesn't give of much of a GFE vibe though. At least not with me. So that's why I have never approached her.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1943184]Have to agree with Sirioja on this one. Many girls cannot take 20 cm in vagina easily. Perhaps might be able to, if penetration starts little by little till they get used it, and stretch. 20 cm is close to 8 inches (I am not that big myself). Average length of vagina is 8 to 11 cm. It is true that vagina is able to stretch greatly up to 200%, when aroused, however some girls have excessively short vaginas, and they may not be at all aroused. Also uterus is a short way in, easily reachable with finger. Any crashing against uterus can do damage. A long dick has to go very far past the uterus, like to double the depth of the uterus.
Girls scared of deep penetration can be encountered quite often, perhaps bruised or damaged already, resulting in the seized up stiff straight legs syndrome. If girls spread the legs wide and relaxed, this indicates lack of being scared of it. Other girls have been known to use a hand to limit penetration.
Some girls with baby have been stiched up too tightly by doctor, others are much easier to penetrate after they had a baby.
Judith was a good example of a girl with very small pussy (too small for me). Plenty of other dick scared girls met.[/QUOTE]I don't think. I'm also so big, but some girls are scared and not able to relax vagina, so, just have to be very careful not to hurt, like with a real GF. For anal, most of time, can't really enter.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1943215]I don't think. I'm also so big, but some girls are scared and not able to relax vagina, so, just have to be very careful not to hurt, like with a real GF. For anal, most of time, can't really enter.[/QUOTE]I talk to girls nice, treat them nice, but when it comes to fucking, I fuck them hardcore LOL.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;1943366]I talk to girls nice, treat them nice, but when it comes to fucking, I fuck them hardcore LOL.[/QUOTE]You may have the size, they can resist to your hardcore sex.
At Sharks, I have only 1 challenger who sometimes book girls he loves for all day, Karolina. Pol and Alice / Kate. Ro said to me: he has big money for good business, You treat women well, but I know, even I don t think being 20 cm, sex with me is exhausting for many girls, even being very careful, asking if not painful, because really afraid to hurt them. Blond Liza. De at GT who asked: fuck me harder, was nearly crying after 1 mn, so I said to her I preferred to stop, not to hurt her more, then she was really crying, saying me: Thank You, better Actor studio, than real pornstar.
My regulars: Madi, even sex machine Kate Aca with sometimes more than 20 rooms a day and used to Turkish, Megan, said after a few months I became big, when they didn't say on first time, but they kept on going with me because they know I take care of them very carefully, just same than with a real GF.
That s why many girls run to Asians or fat belly who are often small size, vagina can sleep for this business. I would add many girls also say Asians are usually kind, not like many rude Turkish, or drunk Russians or Albanians, and quite fast to finish, when I can fuck for more than 1 hour without finishing, if I decide.
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Alexa Sept 1st
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1942939]She was at another, less well known, FKK prior to Oase and they had a bunch of pictures of her on their website. I can't remember which one that was though. She told me she was mad they still used them. I had at that point seen her on a number of different visits. I told her that one night I had a good wank to her photos. She slapped my face and said "What?! And you did not pay me!" Fortunately we both had a good laugh after that. And then I took her to a room and banged the hell out of her.[/QUOTE]I was with Alexa on Sept 1, a Thursday night rather late (1 AM?) - I can whole heartedly agree with all comments. Not a stunner, but attractive, nice job on the breast augmentation. Very reasonable addition. She is very GFE like for 1 hour, great conversation, DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions and very fun, good conversationalist. Only restriction was no digits. She did say for less than 1 hour the service will be less inclusive. But did not matter to me as the chemistry was good & naturally went to an hour. Very nice & would repeat.
Will
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1943020]FKK Darling in Nidderau. I posted the link months ago.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yep! [URL]http://www.fkk-club-darling.de[/URL] No sign of her pictures anymore though.
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Laura
I have to say that Laura has the pinkest butt hole to be seen. It is so much joy to see it.
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Livia / Laura. Pinkest butt hole ever!
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1943692]I have to say that Laura has the pinkest butt hole to be seen. It is so much joy to see it.[/QUOTE]If that is the Laura you mean, Bitumen, I will have to agree 100%.
FiddyCent.
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2 days FKK Oase trip
Do they change girls on Friday to Saturday. I have 2 days, thinking if I should just stay near Oase and spend 2 days or can I stay near Oase and then commute to Shark?
Are there Uber available in this area.
Any idea how much will it cost from main international airport to hotels around Oase?
I am also considering to rent a car, but I have to fly out at 10 am on Sunday. So don't want the hassle of return etc.
Any thoughts? (yet to reserve my rooms).
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MMMMM good
[QUOTE=Bitumen;1943692]I have to say that Laura has the pinkest butt hole to be seen. It is so much joy to see it.[/QUOTE]Yummy, too.
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Tasty!
[QUOTE=Beffen1;1943973]Yummy, too.[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you 100% Beffen1.
FiddyCent.
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[QUOTE=MRusa007;1943804]Do they change girls on Friday to Saturday. I have 2 days, thinking if I should just stay near Oase and spend 2 days or can I stay near Oase and then commute to Shark?
Are there Uber available in this area.
Any idea how much will it cost from main international airport to hotels around Oase?
I am also considering to rent a car, but I have to fly out at 10 am on Sunday. So don't want the hassle of return etc.
Any thoughts? (yet to reserve my rooms).[/QUOTE]Same girls generally, but some may take the day off. A few girls don't like the "stress" of Saturdays so skip that day, but generally more girls present on Saturdays than on Fridays.
Yes, Uber is available but due to lost court case in Germany, Frankfurt is one of the cities where Uber is obliged to charge the same rate as the taxis, so there is no price advantage.
I recommend renting car. It's cheap in Germany and no inconvenience when renting from airport since you return right to the airport terminal, so very convenient. Renting will save you a bit of time and is just more convenient.
For hotels, just search the hotel web sites. If you're looking for a decent budget hotel, search via the Accor web site for hotels in the area. If Oase is your main activity, definitely get a hotel in Bad Homburg or in Friedrichsdorf.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1944183]
I recommend renting car. It's cheap in Germany and no inconvenience when renting from airport since you return right to the airport terminal, so very convenient. Renting will save you a bit of time and is just more convenient.
[/QUOTE]I agree about renting an airport car, and have done so many times. But some warnings:
(1) Automatic transmissions are more common now than they used to be, but they are still the minority, and may drive the price up, and may even not be available *even though you reserved one!* I once had to wait a couple hours before an automatic transmission become available. Another time I had to take a huge SUV-like car because it was the only automatic.
(2) It seems like lanes, and especially underground parking facilities, are much more narrow and difficult to navigate in Germany.
(3) At the airport especially they inspect the car very very closely, and will try to charge you for the littlest thing. Be sure to inspect your car when picking it up and have any damage documented before you leave.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1944195]I agree about renting an airport car, and have done so many times. But some warnings:
(1) Automatic transmissions are more common now than they used to be, but they are still the minority, and may drive the price up, and may even not be available *even though you reserved one!* I once had to wait a couple hours before an automatic transmission become available. Another time I had to take a huge SUV-like car because it was the only automatic.
(3) At the airport especially they inspect the car very very closely, and will try to charge you for the littlest thing. Be sure to inspect your car when picking it up and have any damage documented before you leave.[/QUOTE]Yes, good point. Not being able to drive a small manual car can totally change the price equation. My conclusion about cheapness / reasonableness of renting a car assumed renting a manual transmission.
National, Thrifty, and Dollar are known to be more particular about every little scratch. Tons of complaints on the Internet in Germany for these. I would definitely stay away from these brands, at least when in Germany.
Sixt and Enterprise however are quite reasonable and you probably don't have to be as paranoid with them -- at least in my experience. In any case, always better to check of course, but if you forget to check with Sixt and Enterprise, you still probably won't have any problems. More important is to just double-check that your tank is full before driving off with them.
And, always check the price on Kayak before finalizing your car rental. Booking through Kayak will usually get you a better price with Enterprise than booking directly through Enterprise. Sixt usually has the best price when you have platinum status with them though.
Apologies once again to Neurosynth for posting non-Oase stuff in the Oase thread but Neurosynth MADE me do it this time!
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1944199]Apologies once again to Neurosynth for posting non-Oase stuff in the Oase thread but Neurosynth MADE me do it this time![/QUOTE]Now that you mention it, I guess I should apologize to myself!
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1944199]Snip. Sixt and Enterprise however are quite reasonable and you probably don't have to be as paranoid with them -- at least in my experience. In any case, always better to check of course, but if you forget to check with Sixt and Enterprise, you still probably won't have any problems. More important is to just double-check that your tank is full before driving off with them. Snip.[/QUOTE]I've had awful experiences with Sixt. They tried to charge me about Euro 1500 for a paint scratch on one car (got them down to Euro 500) and charged my credit card company about Euro 800 for a barely visible 1 inch scratch on a tire rim another time. I now avoid using them, which is easy since their rates are now usually higher than others, like Hertz or Avis.
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Yeah, this is a Europe specific scam. I think I got charged with some real but small nick, or perhaps some imaginary nick, 50-75% of the times I rented in Europe. On a recent visit, Sixt did not not even mark anything when I was taking the car out, and when I returned back, claimed there was a small scratch on a door which I could not see even with my glasses on. I said "but you didn't mark this when I checked out" and he said "it's a brand new car, no reason to go over it when you took it out".
Thankfully I purchase insurance every time. An extra 11 euro per day but well worth it, given these scammers.
I have rented more than a hundred times in the US in my life I reckon, and can't recall when they ever charged me for these bogus nicks and scratches.
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[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1944225]I've had awful experiences with Sixt. They tried to charge me about Euro 1500 for a paint scratch on one car (got them down to Euro 500) and charged my credit card company about Euro 800 for a barely visible 1 inch scratch on a tire rim another time. I now avoid using them, which is easy since their rates are now usually higher than others, like Hertz or Avis.[/QUOTE]Moving this discussion to the Lounge and Chat thread. You will find my reply there.
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Oase visit
As a first time poster here but not a first time FKKer Oase is always entertaining. You have a mix of very sweet girls, some not so sweet girls and some that you need to stay away from. So the experience is always one of highs and lows. Roxanna was great as always for me and first time with Andrea, a Romanian girl was too gorgeous to say no to. The third I've tried to forget, half Ukrainian / half Greek was not fun and the carrying on about price and extras I should have just walked out of the room. Once on my blacklist always on my blacklist.
I've come across other women at Oase in previous visits and I wouldn't mind meeting Laura's sister but Laura not for me.
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Delete, moving to lounge...
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[QUOTE=Bismarck69;1944261]I've come across other women at Oase in previous visits and I wouldn't mind meeting Laura's sister but Laura not for me.[/QUOTE]Juicy gives good service and from what I have experienced she does not up sell to the extent of her sister Laura. I do not hear much bad about Juicy so she is worth it.
Laura, as Ultrahappy says, gives quite high mileage services which are par excellence, if you give her incentive. The question is how much of an incentive to Laura are you willing to part with to get those services from such a cute package as she is.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;1942122]Bitumen, great report. Did you actually find one?
The girls (especially Romanians) in FKKs tend to have rules in their head about what is "correct", and are not easily persuaded to change.[/QUOTE]We asked a few girls but either they did not understand the deal or were shocked or told us we were crazy. But we were all serious. It was a group of seven guys who had not seen each other in a while so were looking to bond with a memorable act that we could sign off the bucket list. Money was not the problem. It was a willing girl. I am sure a professional German girl would have taken us all but there was none we encountered as we did a tour of the building looking for a girl.
I mean 1400 euro is a lot of cash for one hour of work. Not even some top lawyers get that kind of rate of pay.
Just like one family guy signed off doing a threesome with two girls that night. A bucket list treat.
These Romanian girls have many rules these days. Standards are dropping in general. No public sex here or there or not at all. No kissing in public. No ball licking unless you pay extra 50 euro. No, you cannot come on her face or on her ass. Package deals to get kissing. So much bother these days with Romanians.
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Sisters Juicy and Laura/Livia
Curious question. Has anyone had a threesome with Juicy and Laura/Livia together and how was it?
I've been with both separately, Juicy in 2014 and Laura/Livia in 2015.
Could be tempted to try both at the same time on my next Oase visit if someone could feed back how well they work together.
Thanks.....Howie.
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[QUOTE=Howie;1944650]Curious question. Has anyone had a threesome with Juicy and Laura together and how was it?
[/QUOTE]I haven't. A German guy I know did and it was a desaster. Another ISG member did and had a great time. I heard.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1944649]
These Romanian girls have many rules these days. Standards are dropping in general. No public sex here or there or not at all. No kissing in public. No ball licking unless you pay extra 50 euro. No, you cannot come on her face or on her ass. Package deals to get kissing. So much bother these days with Romanians.[/QUOTE]Yep we have this rules now but it isn't only the idea of the Romanian girls. AFAIR have the German girls at Palace the copyright for this rules at Hessen FKK clubs since many years.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1942147]You mean to say, you could not find even one money hungry girl in the whole club? LOL.
Looks like the girls would rather do 7 times 15 min Asian customers, with extra 50 for kissing and still only make 700.
Shows how much girls hate being fucked in the ass I guess, unless its very quick and easy? I suppose I would not accept 1400 to be fucked in the ass for a full hour, so I don't blame them. I don't like any girl to even finger my ass. Have a big ass phobia. I happily finger girls' asses if they happen to like it though.[/QUOTE]Nope, our group of guys could not find a girl to do 7 guys for half hour for a standard session at 350 euro nor for one hour with anal sex for 1400 euro. I guess getting a room big enough for all of us would be an issue. I know the rooms under the mens relax area are quite spacious rooms.
There was enough of us to do a bukakke but I guess that makes it 250 euro each so she would have earned 1750 euro in that case in one hour.
In your alternative scenario of finding 7 men for 7 quick sessions of 15 minutes she would need to gamble to find that many willing customers over a shift and also have the skill to finish them off in 15 minutes. No always the easiest thing to do.
Yeah, I know some girls are adverse to getting butt fucked.
One girl say to me, "Look, you want me to stick my big finger up your bum? She then pushes her finger at my asshole and applies pressure on the hole.
Involuntarily I yelp in surprise. I say, "No, I do not like anything up my bum hole. ".
She says, "See? Now you understand how it feel for me when guys keep asking me that they want to stick their big cock up my little asshole. So when I allow a man to fuck me in my ass I want to get paid and I want to trust the man he will not ruin my ass so I cannot work anymore. ".
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1942405]To Bitumen, Oase girls know Italians give tips like Americans, tips are easy money, they just have to ask for.[/QUOTE]
I will preface this comment below as my own view and what I know of the scene so I do not profess to be stating hard facts.
This tipping is a cultural thing. North Americans not used to the German scene do not think anything of giving tips giving the pricing compared to what they experience at home. It is hard to argue withh since it is how one thinks.
As for Italians, it depends. If you are northern then maybe they tip, it is the southerners that play around a lot. Once again, cultural. Pricing ranges massively in Italy. From the below 18 Romanian street girls waiting to graduate to the German FKKs when they turn 18 years since they need identification to work in Germany to the escort girls in hotels.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1942495]Bitumen. That's quite an offer. Were you guys just testing waters and were you prepared to actually do it if a girl agreed? Why not go to a gangbang party for that sort of thing?
A couple of decades ago, when I lived in LA, one porn company advertised to have regular Joe's from the street to participate in a gangbang with some Asian porn chick. I think they needed 40 guys I think. I was young and horny and was tempted to go, but chickened out the last min, thank goodness (if I had gone, and that tape out there, my career would be over today). I heard guys took turn fucking the girl for a few min at a time or sucked for a min or so, and were otherwise jacking to keep themselves stiff. A true sausage fest. That sort of thing must be a lot more common in SF valley these days.[/QUOTE]We were serious. There were 7 guys and it was a long planning timeline to get us all together at the same time and in the same club. We were more than willing to go ahead. Each man had his money ready, we were ready to create a pool for the cash to have it ready for the inevitable payment.
Gangbang parties are not our thing I am afraid and nor is AO for that matter. But I take the suggestion on board when we plan the next reunion.
Only times I have made my own porn is:
1. When my friends and I have hired in some girls to come to one of our homes or to a rented studio and done one on one scenes or public shows which we have filmed for our own pleasure.
2. When escorts have allowed it, usually these escorts are porn stars. No actor waivers are signed so the films made are personal and cannot go public. Invariably, when I have done escorts with FKK girls they have been happy to be filmed, once again the implicit terms are the films are not to be shared.
3. When girls have been happy to be filmed in the room.
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Interesting. Never felt ripped off by a single Oase girl. A public BJ at the start of the session is available. Unless things have changed. I hear in the old days you used to be able to see girls getting buggered in public. Sounds good, but I suppose there must be limits to such things for the girls sake if nothing else. So fair enough if they don't want to do it anymore.
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[QUOTE=Howie;1944650]Curious question. Has anyone had a threesome with Juicy and Laura/Livia together and how was it?
I've been with both separately, Juicy in 2014 and Laura/Livia in 2015.
Could be tempted to try both at the same time on my next Oase visit if someone could feed back how well they work together.
Thanks.....Howie.[/QUOTE]I have asked Juicy and Laura for a threesome and they have said that they do this for customers. It is not a problem even as sisters.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1944663]Only times I have made my own porn is:
1. When my friends and I have hired in some girls to come to one of our homes or to a rented studio and done one on one scenes or public shows which we have filmed for our own pleasure.
2. When escorts have allowed it, usually these escorts are porn stars. No actor waivers are signed so the films made are personal and cannot go public. Invariably, when I have done escorts with FKK girls they have been happy to be filmed, once again the implicit terms are the films are not to be shared.
3. When girls have been happy to be filmed in the room.[/QUOTE]Some times there are surcharges for this service and most times there is no charge. You need to ask.
Sometimes girls are shy with certain sex acts, but once the camera is rolling you can be amazed at how interested the girl is in making sure she gives a good show where you can see all the action. She is suggesting angles and positions so she is in view and making sure the camera is turned on.
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[QUOTE=Howie;1944650]Curious question. Has anyone had a threesome with Juicy and Laura/Livia together and how was it?[/QUOTE]They will DFK, do duo blowjob, do lesbian show, give great visuals and good feeling and fuck with change of condom.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1945046]They will DFK, do duo blowjob, do lesbian show, give great visuals and good feeling and fuck with change of condom.[/QUOTE]For 200€/30 min? More? Less?
HB.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1944653]Yep we have this rules now but it isn't only the idea of the Romanian girls. AFAIR have the German girls at Palace the copyright for this rules at Hessen FKK clubs since many years.[/QUOTE]I didn't know you were a wg. Interesting. :).
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1945113]For 200/30 min? More? Less?
HB.[/QUOTE]150 euro each for one hour including the extra for lesbian activity. Seeing sisters at it is a bit kinky.
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[QUOTE=MrManGuy;1944695]Interesting. Never felt ripped off by a single Oase girl. A public BJ at the start of the session is available. Unless things have changed. I hear in the old days you used to be able to see girls getting buggered in public. Sounds good, but I suppose there must be limits to such things for the girls sake if nothing else. So fair enough if they don't want to do it anymore.[/QUOTE]It is such a shame that the public sex aspect of Oase is in decline. Oase was set apart from other Hessen clubs in my opinion for its kinky public sex. Now it is all vanilla in the room only mantra enforced by the Romanian girl mafia.
Times change and we move on.
In some months time we expect to see the demise of the BBBJ if this sex with condom only law comes in.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1945837]It is such a shame that the public sex aspect of Oase is in decline. Oase was set apart from other Hessen clubs in my opinion for its kinky public sex. Now it is all vanilla in the room only mantra enforced by the Romanian girl mafia.
Times change and we move on.
In some months time we expect to see the demise of the BBBJ if this sex with condom only law comes in.[/QUOTE]I keep saying this. If it is on decline, the only reason is because guys are too shy.
Have you asked girls for public sex and did they decline?
I try to fuck at least a couple of times in kino and I never have a problem. I think I said this before, but in my 3 trips this year, of the 13 or so sessions, I think I had BJ in kino close to 10 and even fucking 6 to 7. Few girls will walk away from a sale completely because due to shyness about public sex. Very few of them are shy.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1945909]I keep saying this. If it is on decline, the only reason is because guys are too shy.
Have you asked girls for public sex and did they decline?
I try to fuck at least a couple of times in kino and I never have a problem. I think I said this before, but in my 3 trips this year, of the 13 or so sessions, I think I had BJ in kino close to 10 and even fucking 6 to 7. Few girls will walk away from a sale completely because due to shyness about public sex. Very few of them are shy.[/QUOTE]Yes girls decline requests for public sex by ignoring it and walking off to get a room key to the extent of saying that public sex is not allowed insisting I should ask Reception if I did not believe them. Some even say are you crazy to want to fuck in public.
I expect you are getting much better luck than I do with girls for public sex.
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I've never had any problems getting public sex at oase. But they keep telling me they don't kiss in public.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1946020]Yes girls decline requests for public sex by ignoring it and walking off to get a room key to the eztent of saying that public sex is not allowed insisting I shoukd ask Reception if I did not believe them. Some even say are you crazy to want to fuck in public.
I expect you are getting much better luck than I do with girls for public sex.[/QUOTE]Why do you need to have sex in public? To be seen? To show to other guys you fuck a girl? Only because you pay her, if not, she would not even look at you, to feel to play a porn movie? Does not a girl give more in private and if she feels comfortable?
I agree about sex in garden, but don't need to make a porn show.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1945909]I keep saying this. If it is on decline, the only reason is because guys are too shy.
Have you asked girls for public sex and did they decline?
I try to fuck at least a couple of times in kino and I never have a problem. I think I said this before, but in my 3 trips this year, of the 13 or so sessions, I think I had BJ in kino close to 10 and even fucking 6 to 7. Few girls will walk away from a sale completely because due to shyness about public sex. Very few of them are shy...[/QUOTE]Yes but the kino is not really a public place sometimes it is empty and it is also dark inside, personally I never saw any action close to the inside pool, or in the restaurant.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1946027]Why do you need to have sex in public? To be seen? To show to other guys you fuck a girl? Only because you pay her, if not, she would not even look at you, to feel to play a porn movie? Does not a girl give more in private and if she feels comfortable?
I agree about sex in garden, but don't need to make a porn show.[/QUOTE]The reason is to do acts that you do not get at home with your wife or girlfriend. Fucking in the dark under the covers in your bedroom is something that is what is mainstream. If you want to live life and not be a boring then you do something you will remember.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1946164]The reason is to do acts that you do not get at home with your wife or girlfriend. Fucking in the dark under the covers in your bedroom is something that is what is mainstream. If you want to live life and not be a boring then you do something you will remember.[/QUOTE]Quite correct.
In a way, the entire FKK visit is all about a fantasy. If we have a woman in life, why even bother going to FKK? It's about the fantasy of fucking multiple women, a variety of women with different feel, touch, breath, smell and sound.
So many people here keep asking about non Romanian girls. Perhaps there is a service factor here, but a large part of that is the fantasy of fucking girls from multiple nationalities, I suspect. Same thing with people asking about Moslem girls, Indian girls, etc. Do their pussies feel different, or tits have a different taste? If people are given a blind Pepsi test, they can't tell who is who even amount their very favorite girls. This is all about that fantasy, really.
Public sex is about a similar thing. For many of us, buttoned up during the day, living a very restricted life, FKK is all about loosening up, no limits, no inhibitions. To almost every one who knows me, I am a very conservative person who never even swears a cuss word in life, so for me this is all about letting hair down and be crazy and relaxed. Fucking in the open with a bunch of strangers watching is as crazy as it gets. Watching and being watched is a huge turn on.
I have had sessions, at the end of multiple day trips, where I could not finish in 2 or 3 sessions in the room with girls but then I take a open kino fuck with a girl and I am done in 5 minutes. As we know, sex is as much about the mind as it is about the dick and pussy.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1946071]Yes but the kino is not really a public place sometimes it is empty and it is also dark inside, personally I never saw any action close to the inside pool, or in the restaurant.[/QUOTE]I had blow jobs in the lounge right next to the inside bar. That is a lot more brightly lit, and also very open. As soon as a new guest walks in, they could see me. Yes, the restaurant, or the inside pool is even more open and bright and I guess I did not dare yet to do there. If I had some company with another guy willing to do it, I would go for it.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1946164]The reason is to do acts that you do not get at home with your wife or girlfriend. Fucking in the dark under the covers in your bedroom is something that is what is mainstream. If you want to live life and not be a boring then you do something you will remember.[/QUOTE]Why? Your girlfriends were so ugly, you had sex in the dark? I was always used to have pretty women and always had sex with full light, except when waking up during night. Why I always go with the prettiest girls and I always turn on full light in room, and girls don't say anything. I need fluent kisses and to look at beauty in full light, I can't kiss or lick in the dark. When my World fav started to want to go in dark rooms for fast business, rather than the mirror room, she became a bad services level WG for me.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1946164]The reason is to do acts that you do not get at home with your wife or girlfriend. Fucking in the dark under the covers in your bedroom is something that is what is mainstream. If you want to live life and not be a boring then you do something you will remember.[/QUOTE]You have to understand that certain girls do certain acts, not all girls do anal so you don't expect all the girls to do anal do you? Same goes with public acts, not all the girls want to fuck in public. You have to pick from the girls that do public fucking if you want to fuck in public.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1946023]I've never had any problems getting public sex at oase. But they keep telling me they don't kiss in public.[/QUOTE]Did you get public sex on the inside pool, or close to the restaurant?
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1946164]The reason is to do acts that you do not get at home with your wife or girlfriend. Fucking in the dark under the covers in your bedroom is something that is what is mainstream. If you want to live life and not be a boring then you do something you will remember.[/QUOTE]Personally the most extreme sex experiences I got in my life were not in the P6, where the thing are more or less standardized.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1946245]Did you get public sex on the inside pool, or close to the restaurant?[/QUOTE]Never tried. Just at the cinema and at the lounge beyond the bar...
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1946257]Personally the most extreme sex experiences I got in my life were not in the P6, where the thing are more or less standardized.[/QUOTE]I am sorry for you that you have to pay for standardized and presumably boring services. Some of us get quite exciting and extreme activity.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1946199]You have to understand that certain girls do certain acts, not all girls do anal so you don't expect all the girls to do anal do you? Same goes with public acts, not all the girls want to fuck in public. You have to pick from the girls that do public fucking if you want to fuck in public.[/QUOTE]Good. You got it. This is why we go to FKK to get these services. Like in a normal club you do not get nude girls walking around but at a FKK all the girls are nude.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1946245]Did you get public sex on the inside pool, or close to the restaurant?[/QUOTE]I got a long time BJ in the place where the mini football machine is.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1946411]I got a long time BJ in the place where the mini football machine is.[/QUOTE]Congratulations nice performance.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1946196]Why? Your girlfriends were so ugly, you had sex in the dark? I was always used to have pretty women and always had sex with full light, except when waking up during night. Why I always go with the prettiest girls and I always turn on full light in room, and girls don't say anything. I need fluent kisses and to look at beauty in full light, I can't kiss or lick in the dark. When my World fav started to want to go in dark rooms for fast business, rather than the mirror room, she became a bad services level WG for me.[/QUOTE]Hmm, for the guy that harps on giving working girls their freedom from slavery you seem to exert a form of coercion in denying sessions (monetary denial) to girls when the girl does not want to do what you want them to do like going into dark rooms. I guess you have not figured why the girls do not say anything or you are not listening.
Regarding why with previous girlfriends I would have sex with them in the safety and sanctity of the bedroom with the lights off and under the covers is because I respect their wishes and not exert any coercion on them.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1946023]I've never had any problems getting public sex at oase. But they keep telling me they don't kiss in public.[/QUOTE]This is not unexpected. Full sex is included in a standard 50 Euro session. Kissing is not guaranteed in all sessions.
Girl does not want to be seen kissing in public since it sets a precedent and the other girls in the Upsell Police want to make sure that guys are not getting kissing thrown in for free. Girls may not want to kiss every customer the same.
If a girl doesn't want to fuck, she just refuses the customer completely, or scams and tries the stiff seized up legs trick, or her hand prevents full penetration.
EriKarla is or was an example of a girl who says she is up for fucking almost anywhere, but kissing, I don't know if she does that also anywhere.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1946813]
Girl does not want to be seen kissing in public since it sets a precedent and the other girls in the Upsell Police want to make sure that guys are not getting kissing thrown in for free. Girls may not want to kiss every customer the same.[/QUOTE]She could still tell the other girls or clients that she charged extra for kissing. Same for spending a lot of time with a client in public. Tell girls or clients that she got paid for the time. Problem solved. Done this before.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1946173]Quite correct.
In a way, the entire FKK visit is all about a fantasy. If we have a woman in life, why even bother going to FKK? It's about the fantasy of fucking multiple women, a variety of women with different feel, touch, breath, smell and sound.
So many people here keep asking about non Romanian girls. Perhaps there is a service factor here, but a large part of that is the fantasy of fucking girls from multiple nationalities, I suspect. Same thing with people asking about Moslem girls, Indian girls, etc. Do their pussies feel different, or tits have a different taste? If people are given a blind Pepsi test, they can't tell who is who even amount their very favorite girls. This is all about that fantasy, really.
Public sex is about a similar thing. For many of us, buttoned up during the day, living a very restricted life, FKK is all about loosening up, no limits, no inhibitions. To almost every one who knows me, I am a very conservative person who never even swears a cuss word in life, so for me this is all about letting hair down and be crazy and relaxed. Fucking in the open with a bunch of strangers watching is as crazy as it gets. Watching and being watched is a huge turn on.
I have had sessions, at the end of multiple day trips, where I could not finish in 2 or 3 sessions in the room with girls but then I take a open kino fuck with a girl and I am done in 5 minutes. As we know, sex is as much about the mind as it is about the dick and pussy.[/QUOTE]Jnpr30,
Your thoughts capture the essence of the supporting arguments and rationale for public sex in the FKK concept. Great answer to the question as to why men seek public sex.
I have added your report to to the Reports of Distinction.
Well done and keep writing.
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Anybody looking for Ex-Oase and Mainhattan Ricky (Germany) will find her here:
[URL]http://bilder1.ladies.de/Bilder/309/7329309-F1.JPG[/URL]
[URL]http://www.ladies.de/Sex-Anzeigen/Bizarr-SM-Sex/Landshut-Bizarr-SM-Sex-Lady-Ricky-bei-Lustra-7329309.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1946611]Hmm, for the guy that harps on giving working girls their freedom from slavery you seem to exert a form of coercion in denying sessions (monetary denial) to girls when the girl does not want to do what you want them to do like going into dark rooms. I guess you have not figured why the girls do not say anything or you are not listening.
Regarding why with previous girlfriends I would have sex with them in the safety and sanctity of the bedroom with the lights off and under the covers is because I respect their wishes and not exert any coercion on them.[/QUOTE]So, how a bad guy forcing girls like me, can have all the prettiest and busiest girls in any club I visit, not only once but many times, and after first time, they know I will not run after them, they have to come to me, and they come each time they see me. My real girlfriends never asked me to turn off the light, most of prostitutes don't turn off the light. I just make women feel they are pretty, they look at my eyes and my hands.
I had 49 full light rooms with Madi World, most in mirror room. On 2 May 2015, she decided she didn't wanted to wait for business for a good room, so I said to her I preferred to leave because I didn't like her behavior, same bad room choice on 14 May, so, last room, and since 2 May, she read what I wrote on this forum about World and Sharks castings. Then, as wrote a member, she could wait for business, warming her ass, sitting all night. Clever girl, but I wish her a good life for what she gave me.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1947764]So, how a bad guy forcing girls like me, can have all the prettiest and busiest girls in any club I visit, not only once but many times, and after first time, they know I will not run after them, they have to come to me, and they come each time they see me. My real girlfriends never asked me to turn off the light, most of prostitutes don't turn off the light. I just make women feel they are pretty, they look at my eyes and my hands.
[/QUOTE]It's all about the Porsche, right? The Power of the Porsche.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1947764]So, how a bad guy forcing girls like me, can have all the prettiest and busiest girls in any club I visit, not only once but many times, and after first time, they know I will not run after them, they have to come to me, and they come each time they see me.[/QUOTE]It's the small brown or green bills you are handing over after each session. They do all the magic.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1947764]So, how a bad guy forcing girls like me, can have all the prettiest and busiest girls in any club I visit, not only once but many times, and after first time, they know I will not run after them, they have to come to me, and they come each time they see me. My real girlfriends never asked me to turn off the light, most of prostitutes don't turn off the light. I just make women feel they are pretty, they look at my eyes and my hands.
I had 49 full light rooms with Madi World, most in mirror room. On 2 May 2015, she decided she didn't wanted to wait for business for a good room, so I said to her I preferred to leave because I didn't like her behavior, same bad room choice on 14 May, so, last room, and since 2 May, she read what I wrote on this forum about World and Sharks castings. Then, as wrote a member, she could wait for business, warming her ass, sitting all night. Clever girl, but I wish her a good life for what she gave me.[/QUOTE]You are delusional.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1947982]It's the small brown or green bills you are handing over after each session. They do all the magic.
HB.[/QUOTE]Hahaha good one LOL.
With this paper called money, you do not even have to talk to her LOL.
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May still there?
I will be visiting next week, and wondering if May (Phillippines) is still at Oase on Saturday-Sunday daytime?
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Oase has now like some other clubs a short time entry price. Between 10 am till 4 pm entry is 30 euro for two hours.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1948928]Oase has now like some other clubs a short time entry price. Between 10 am till 4 pm entry is 30 euro for two hours.[/QUOTE]Taxi drivers are going to love that. Might even increase the numbers of taxis in the area if I know those guys right, lol.
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1948928]Oase has now like some other clubs a short time entry price. Between 10 am till 4 pm entry is 30 euro for two hours.[/QUOTE]Times are difficult at Oase? What do you do in 2 hours? You have to find an attractive beauty, not so easy before 4 pm if Ina not there, then, room with CIM after 15 mn for 100 ? Or more for Asians, then have time to kick the garden holes.
Can have free foods? Or like for girls, only guys milk.
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One girl write me that at Oase in the last week it has been very quiet for men. She says she has barely made the entrance fee each day.
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I never get that entrance fee calculation to add up in my head. As if 100 girls all make in average 2. 2 rooms (or 1 h and 12 min) per day. Right.
Take a day to just sit and observe. Preferably a monday or tuesday... great days to loose money.
Yes, I have a note on my head that says I am a retard who believes in conspiracy theories. But then again, Podesta e mails confirmed aliens too... haha
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May in Oase?
Gents. Has May (Phillippines) been in Oase recently? She was there on weekends earlier this year, so I am wondering if she's still there. Hoping to see her next weekend.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1949046]One girl write me that at Oase in the last week it has been very quiet for men. She says she has barely made the entrance fee each day.[/QUOTE]And girls have to pay to eat, with girls entry more than 100 € . I know there are more and more fat girls but just a shame they can t have free dog foods like us, when they pay more expensive and have to work for 10 hours with only 1 meal.
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Adina / Marina (Rom)
Will be there on Monday Oct 17. Just wonder if this girl is still working there. Anyone want to have some fun together, please PM me.
Dave.
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[QUOTE=Bitumen;1949046]One girl write me that at Oase in the last week it has been very quiet for men. She says she has barely made the entrance fee each day.[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right it is quite time now, but it is always the case after big fairs and now the winter is starting so less german guys visit the clubs to enjoy the gardens and pools and have some fun with girls. Too many clubs, too many escorts, too many girls in the clubs, the number of customers can t be extended to infinity. I also believe that many german guys are switching from FKK clubs to escort where they are sure they can t meet german women, sorry but I am also doing it by using Kaufmich.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1949508]Yes, you are right it is quite time now, but it is always the case after big fairs and now the winter is starting so less german guys visit the clubs to enjoy the gardens and pools and have some fun with girls. Too many clubs, too many escorts, too many girls in the clubs, the number of customers can t be extended to infinity. I also believe that many german guys are switching from FKK clubs to escort where they are sure they can t meet german women, sorry but I am also doing it by using Kaufmich.[/QUOTE]Too many clubs, girls, escorts, too much sex.
Oh my heart bleeds for the travails of these poor German men. How did they get into such a tough situation? Why couldn't this difficulty befall someone else. Such as us? LOL.
P.S: Bitumen, thanks very much for your kind words, appreciated highly.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1949508] I also believe that many german guys are switching from FKK clubs to escort where they are sure they can t meet german women, sorry but I am also doing it by using Kaufmich.[/QUOTE]The next wrong BS from you, almost no German club regular who knows the big advantages of FKK clubs woun't change to escort with all this drawbacks like price and buy blind. And KM isn't known for quality escort it's a P6 mix of everything with lots of fakes and also no competition to FKK clubs.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1949508]Too many clubs, too many escorts, too many girls in the clubs, the number of customers can t be extended to infinity. I also believe that many german guys are switching from FKK clubs to escort where they are sure they can t meet german women, sorry but I am also doing it by using Kaufmich.[/QUOTE]True. But the girls can allways decide to be more genuine in the room if they want. Rules given to them by other girls or their pimps. Or some idea that they are saving something for a future husband, or to their 'boyfriend' at home is the main reason why some girls business is falling. It is a buyers market as you clearly points towards. So when girls try to offer less for more, one does not have to be a scientist to see what that will lead to. Market economics.
Top girls who doesnt restrict, allways become popular and can make upwards of 10k a month. Which nobody can complain about...
I agree with Craiova. Internet ad girls are too random. When I have tried calling up these I end up leaving at the door in 9 out of 10 cases. The pictures, ads and with some also service feels too much like a scam... so I barely do this. FKKs are far superior. Pluss you also get to mingle with the girls in advance, so you get an idea of what personality they have. That last part is also the main reason to why I much prefer FKKs to Macau saunas like 18/Emperor/East Spa/Castle/FN etc
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[QUOTE=Craiova;1949835]The next wrong BS from you, almost no German club regular who knows the big advantages of FKK clubs woun't change to escort with all this drawbacks like price and buy blind. And KM isn't known for quality escort it's a P6 mix of everything with lots of fakes and also no competition to FKK clubs.[/QUOTE]You have the right to believe what you want, may be just contact some escort agency in Frankfurt or Stuttgart and book some girls and session them what I personally often do. Most of the girls you will meet are German and you will probably hear from them that many of their customers are German and not foreigners. I also use often KM and had met really super nice girls with great GF experiences. For me the experience with a escort is globally far better than with FKK girls, they have less customers every day / week, if you book 3 hours or more both are relax enjoy the things in a other way that in a FKK club. You can start with a diner and after go to the room which is not possible in a FKK club.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;1949921]You can start with a diner and after go to the room which is not possible in a FKK club.[/QUOTE]Really? No food at FKK's?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1949981]Really? No food at FKK's?[/QUOTE]Quite difficult to have kind of a romantic dinner with a girl at an FKK. If you want that: nice environment, good food, nice glass of wine in a real glass, no other WGs or clients around, nice dress and a suit. Completely different set up. You could take food and beverages to the room and have dinner there. Done that. But it's not the same. LOL.
HB.