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A lot of people seem to have different tastes and desires. A lot of guys on different boards have raved about Sammie in PHG. I thought she was cute but I have found other ladies to be better, Nancy whom I met in Bonn was much better and provided me with better service. Nancy is shorter, while Sammy is tall, I usually like to stand at least 6 inches taller than the woman to feel manly. I'm 6'2", Sammie who is about 6 feet made me feel a bit put off.
I’ll throw in an update on Oase for you. My pleasure.
Last Wednesday was a quiet day. That is quiet for the girls, good choice for the boys. There are some seriously lovely girls at the club at the moment. And the weather was nice, sunny without being too hot, so that the garden was a good retreat. Things didn’t get too smoky. Business picked up in the evening, after a Tokyo jumbo jet landed. Good for the girls, good for the boys, because those of us there for a long haul sure needed a rest by that time.
Despite the slow afternoon the girls were not too pushy, aggression which has been criticized in the past. I sensed almost patient resignation, a hiatus you occasionally get at the clubs at about 4.30 pm, when word goes around among the girls that all the men present are kaputt and that they’ll have to wait for more men or recovered men. Half an hour later dinner is served, and in they rush, all hyperactivity again. Not a single stool without a gorgeous female bum on it. Who said being a shiny bit of smooth red plastic was a tough lot in life? Then a coke, a fag, and back to business, cards redealt, male testosterone levels hopefully restored.
I was taking my time and was lucky with my choices:
Ella from Russia, Kaliningrad (I thought she had been reviewed, but seemingly not). 26, about 162-164 cms before heels, shoulder length blonde hair, big smile, B breasts, splendid bum. Hangs around with Veronika, well known at the club, and a Russian beauty I didn’t manage to get hold of. Ella put on a really good show, and had me prolonging for an hour within five minutes. Kept me tantalizingly on the edge for a full half hour once the serious stimulation got underway (pre-arranged signal of a tap on the bum for Whoa-there!, you know the way it goes). You can’t go far wrong with her.
Jenny from Fulda, Germany was second up. Mid-twenties, 180cms tall (with heels she was looking down on me), statuesque brunette with long straight hair. Fantastic legs and body, fine-boned face without great beauty however. I had been eyeing her all evening and was certainly not going to miss out once I had got to speak to her. But what a strange personality! Not aloof, not distant, she was talking with everyone, but really strange vibes. And a stare. I mean, a real stare. I thought at first she was dosed up on something, but as things went on, I realised it is her natural disposition. Anyway, Jenny is a fine, honest Optikfick, and why not? But there she was, as I opened my eyes after a pretty knackering finish, staring long hard and fixedly into mine, as if to say, “what the hell were you doing there? How could you dare?”. I harvested a hearty slap on the bum as we left the room too. You guys looking for real mean S&M session are in for a treat with this one, take it from me. But she was good honest session for timid old me too.
Third candidate was Mirabelle (I think that’s right), from Right-out-in-the-boondocks, Romania. In fact she found me. She said she had been admiring my wallet from afar, but I’m sure it’s really the racy way I tie my towel. Mirabelle is also brunette with wavy shoulder-length hair. I reckon about 23, A/B breasts, curves in all the right places, but what got me was her lovely face and smile. Really fine BBBJ technique and an hour went by far too quickly. And she is very funny too. Had me in stitches with the one about the Austrian who insisted on her wearing pink socks. Sorry, I don’t have pink socks, but I can do dirty yellow ones for you. Even better, he cried! I’m sorry, Tosc, but how can you concentrate on your blowjob when this strange man is intensively licking your boyfriend's dirty yellow socks? I mean, I should know, I hadn’t washed them for weeks! Why do you carry your boyfriend's dirty socks around in your pocket? You don't want to know, but you see, they came in useful! And so on. Anyway, mein österreichischer Freund, if you are reading this, good luck to you, hope you are healthy, we both thought you were reeeeeal weird. I was close to extending for another half hour just to get some more stories, but I thought I’d quit while I was ahead. Mirabelle is one for keeps.
After that I fooled around with one or two friendly girls on the sofa, but didn’t really have the Lust to hit the room again. It was an enjoyable day.
Mille Gratsie, Seniore Toscana! Thanks! That was quite an update on Oase, my first true FKK club and perhaps my favourite all-time club. Sounds like things are still flourishing there, despite it being middle of the summer. Summer has never been my favourite FKK season...let's just say, I've always been wary about the prospects of summer. But I really think there is something special about Oase, it's stigma or reputation or whatever, that ensures this club to have a steady line-up at any time of the year, whilst other clubs might wane a bit in summer.
Anyway thanks for your review of some ot the girls, none of whom I recognise from my last vistis in March and April.
After more than 3 years of coming back - this is IMO still the best.
10 hour layover on a Sunday afternoon. Checked bag at 1st class desk Terminal 1B, walked across the street, took train to Friedrichsorf and was in silly yellow towel an hour and half after landing.
Although weather was off and on good- terrible, the vibes at Oase are still great and this is still my favorite club as well. Still great diverse selection of sp, good homey atmosphere, and going strong. On a Sun. afternoon, i estimate 35 women until evening shift and about 50 afterwards.
I can't beat Toscana's and King w's reports below, but I also went with Lizzy and Julie, studiously avoiding the Russians.
Speaking of tells- my well-honed senses lead me to their eyes. I know with all that flesh walking around it's a little perverse to check out their pupils, but it always works for me. Check out the body chemistry after a session, look for the ones that are enjoying themselves or at least feel comfortable with the situation , look for the smile in the eyes. The eyes can't lie, whereas a surgically repaired boob job and well-porportioned body can hide a frustrated, unhappy soul underneath.
Had to leave at 8:30 to catch late flight so I couldn't make it an all-nighter. SO easy, SO amazing for us U.S. confined practioners. why can't they have places like this everywhere?
Good to hear Oase is keeping up. I had kind of taken Oase of my list after last couple of visits last spring, favouring World and Palace, but might give it a second chance in my upcoming trip to the FRA region (the fact that Lizzy is still around will enforce my intentions). It still has a soft spot in my heart as the first FKK I ever visited and I like the "in your face" when you arrive as you walk through the crowded bar area getting to the lockers. Always has given me more "arrival buzz" than the other clubs regardless of other stuff.
Chivaz
[QUOTE=Carpediem]No. two was Anna, Russian, who got me by sexy dance in addition to very sexy face, nice boody and cute accent. In addition she is actually a smart girl who seems to know what she's doing. According to her, she works only few days per month. The session was nice with dfk/bbbj, numerous positions and enthusiastic participation from her side. Strongly recommended.
Anna, russian
age: 27
height: 175 or so
hair: blond, chin length
figure: slim, B breasts
tattoos: no
fluent english[/QUOTE]One of my favorite girls at Oase is russian Anna from Moscow, blond hair, but D silicone breasts. One of my best GFE I have ever had. Now I think there is only one blond russian Anna at Oase. So are you sure of your "B breasts" statement for your Anna ?
Hello i've a free night in frankfurt area, be4 landing in Riga, can you suggest me where i've to go this saturday night?
world? palace? oase?
tnx
Hey,
All three are goldmines on a Saturday night. If it is a question of convenient travel, then Palace is the easiest to get to, followed by Oase, then World.
Oase and World may have the edge as far as sheer numbers of girls goes. Also they both have nice outdoor areas. IMHO World has superior facilities.
I was at World last Saturday and can confirm that their weekend line up is pretty hot at the moment.
Have fun,
Dedalus
"which of these 3 clubs should i visit?"
to all newbies on this part of the forum, stop asking this inane question! it is getting on my nerves more than any of cbgb's posts!
there is no fucking definitive answer!
i went to palace and oase yesterday for the first time in a year.
i did not like the line up of palace at all. they have dark lighting and they know why. lots of older fatter girls, and no real stunners i could pick out. the ambiance is decent.
regarding accessability of world (which i agree is too sterile) in the bild it says that have an hourly free shuttle from the adac messe building in frankfurt out to the club from 9pm until 2am with a number to call 0160-6770206 so that might solve some people transport problems.
i went o oase and was blown away by the lineup and the atmosphere. this is really the best club i have been to in a while. it has been a year since i have beent here, but it is looking strong. the parking lot was jam packed at 11pm and i had to wait for a spot. they have a tonne of new rooms, with too many mirrors for my liking, but otherwise good. even with all the new rooms, you still have to wait as the girls are going to rooms a lot. i know a girl who works here and used to work up in the nrw area. she is earning twice as much.
they have changed the pricing strategy for the girls. the girls now pay 65€ entrance fee which includes sleeping over and is the price if you don't dance. if you dance you pay 10€ less, so 55€. that means they have dropped the 15€ overnight charge. they still have a fine for using the cell phone, but that is good. with the lower price for the girls they have attracted some good talent, and i hear there are 150 girls in rotation there.
the atmosphere was good, with the orgy thing going on in the kino, the main show and contact rooms going gangbusters. it has that "eyes wide shut" private orgy party atmosphere.
i haven't been down the frankfurt way in a long time, but oase was worth it.
i hit 3 clubs across germany in one day, and oase is now back at the top of my list. the variety is what will keep it ahead of world. i have also heard from quite a few girls that hell's angels are back out in the clubs a lot. it would seem that i might not be the only one to want more variety than only romanian girls (the ha own world fyi). i saw 4 ha in palace, and the girls in oase told me there have been a lot coming in in the last 3 weeks.
all in all i would say oase is the best club around at the moment, but there is no definitive answer to which one to go to. the lineups can change and it depends on how mobile you are and what time frame you have.
i still don't like the price structure in the ffm area so much. i spent 1 1/2 hours in the room with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] (18y/o german girl) and what would have cost me 100€ in this area set me back 150€. considering most of it was just talking this was hefty. in the frankfurt clubs i feel the need to keep track of money, which i don't ever worry about in this area.
i also went to colosseum in augsburg, which i thought felt like a fucking factory. purpose built for fucking. the pool and saunas were nice, the rooms were ok except for the vinyl mattress covers, and the talent was decent (although not many my particular taste). but the place was quite sterile. on the very good side they told 3 guys to come back in an hour as the place was too full as i left. with 17 girls they were only letting in 30 men. i thought this was quite fair, although not so great news to hear when you aren't let in and there is zero other clubs around.
leoni from phg was working there. not my type, but many love her.
went with a very professional cute tiny german named diana. killer bod, decent face, too much make-up but only passable service. there was no food, which sucked, but might have been the time (3-5pm)
The atmoshphere in the Ruhr clubs is generally a turnoff. If you want to get an idea of what the Playboy mansion is like, try FKK World, since it bears a passing resemblance to the PB mansion in California. I prefer smaller and more intimate clubs because you get better service in these establishments. The Hessen area clubs usually have an international clientele, and therefore you will get a very international bullshit attitude from the women.
Peter,
I too, am an Oase fan. However I have to be in a special mood. Both clubs have a "wild side" but Oase in general can be a bit more raw. I like this sometimes. Open sex pretty much anywhere; outside, Kino, the bar(I have seen this!) by the pool, etc.
Whether this has to do with the clientele or the girls is a topic of debate.
Oase nearly always has a good line-up, yet it varies a lot and it can be difficult to know which strings to pull. There are quite a few very attractive girls at Oase whose service is less than worthwhile. I do admit that this is the case at many other clubs as well.
It is unfortunate that the Romanian band at World has such a poor reputation. There was a time late last year that there was a group a gypsy bandits at both Oase and World who made many people nervous, but those days seem to have passed and the majority Romanian girls at World are pretty darn good providers. Peter, you in particular would find a few of these Romanian dolls to be easy on the eyes, for quite a few are just your type!
The last time I was at Oase, a few girls told me that they preferred working there than at World because there were too many Romanians at Pohlheim. I heard and hear this a lot and I wonder if there is a sort of turf-war going on.
The atmosphere at World laid back compared to Oase. Mind you, it can still be pretty wild, especially if Daniela, Magda, or Olga start to go loco. But the "Eyes Wide Shut" vibe that you describe at Oase is a spot-on description that is pretty unique to that place.
Too bad about Palace. The place suffer in the summer but starting in September it should be good again. I hear that Cindy is still on vacation and no one that I know has seen Marina in awhile.
(A bit off topic) CBGB's posts while, in my opinion pretty inane and useless (really Peter, has he mentioned anything that has been helpful to you?) are not offensive to me. This is why I have not jumped on the bandwagon to get him banned. I too, find Howard Stern, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'reily, Laurel and Hardy, Bevis and Butthead, Bozo the Clown, Dr. Laura and the entire crew of "*******" idiotic but entertaining. CBGB, play on.
Cheers,
Dedalus
Hello,
I will be in Frankfurt from 19-22 August and I plan to visit Oase.
It's my first time to Oase (I've only been to Palace once, in April ) and would like to meet with other mongers if possible. I also plan to visit World durring my stay.
I will have a car rented so I can also assure transportation from Frankfurt.
Contact me on private.
Niky
Peter, Dedalus and anyone else tuned in here:
This is a most interesting discussion.
Reading Peter's comments about Oase, esp. how you haven't been there in about a year or so and suddenly finding it so, so good --maybe top club in Deutschland-- and then finding Palace so lacking...All this made me think: You know, these 3 clubs in Frankfurt area can ebb and flow just like the tides. Each club can wax and wane like the moon. It really depends on timing. I say this because when I land in Frankfurt for a multi-day FKK binge, I always make a point to visit all three clubs in quick succession, sometimes over two days, just to get a quick assessment of the line-ups at each club before I decide to "nest" into one club or another.
I've found over the past two years that I more often than not begin with Oase and end up there again and again. It is my old standby club and the one I first visited. But at other times I have had great, great times and have encountered exceptional line-ups at both World and Palace.
One should not put too much weight to the current decline of Palace. This club is not a summer club and visiting Palace is in August is like trying to ski at Aspen in May. Go back to Palace during the cooler months and you will perhaps be treated to the best lineup in DE.
This Romanian thing at World: Well all of us who know and Love World would agree that the field there is Romanian dominated. But I personally feel the critism leveled at World about this is over-stated and not valid. Yes there are more Romanian girls at World than any other nationality. So what? Yes there are cliques there, but so are there everywhere. But there are completely different types within the Romanian cadre: Top, top-notch erotic experiences like with Daniella and Ramona, to rotten young scoundrels like Magda and Alexandra to many many other types. My point: At the end of the day, when I am in any of the clubs I judge the girls I encounter and scrutinize for possible session material as Individuals not members of a certain ethnic group. If you go to a club like World and swim in a sea of Romanian girls, you have to know how to pick the right fish. It doesn't so much matter whether 4 or 5 girls out of 10 might be from Romania, but more important is the individual look, persona and performance characteristics irrespective of her passport.
Ortos
Just to add a perspective. In my opinion and limited experience...
My last visit to Oase was early morning followed by a quick drive (under 30 minutes) to World. Preference between clubs is a matter of personal taste and the atmosphere on the day.
The big differences are that the Oase atmosphere is more relaxed - you are not always exposed to the eyes of forty girls like you are in the main room at World. But it is easier to relax at World as there are places to chill out. Oase also has a wider range of girls - more plastic tits, wider ethnic mix - but World has a wider age range. It all depends who takes your fancy. The wider experience of the girls at Oase and the cosier atmospher is I think why there is much more public sex at Oase. At World many of the girls are young and consider anything other than going to a room for the most conventional of sex to be a perversion
The Rumanian thing at World is often overstated. There is still a wide ethnic mix. And yes, the high turnover does lead to some sharp practice (recently I read of a complaint about Karina for providing poor service and then demanding a tip!). Whereas at Oase there seems (to me) to be also occasiona really bad service from a hardened worker. Oase does not seem to take complaints as seriously as World.
Ortos - Magda "a rotten young scoundrel" - is that affectionate.? I found her to be fine - but with a penchant for choosing muscled young American visitors (which excludes me)
Conclusion - like Dedalus and Ortos say - you pay your money and take your own choice. If I were in Germany now I would be exercising my investigative powers.
Good description. I like Oase's rawness, the excitement in the air, the sex dripping off the chintsy walls and upholstery, the in-your- face sexuality, the sex in the sauna, jacuzzi, bar, kino, wherever. It doesn't have the swankiest facilities, or most ideal location, or better food, but this club just consistently gets it right. And even with downturns now and then, the sp lineup is more or less consistent, no surprises. Basic law of economics - barring other conditions, if there is a decent business model, which doesn't change, and the demand curve stays the same, maintaining a standard level of product is good for business.
FFM pricing vs. NRW pricing - I don't find this to be an issue, maybe I'm not as price sensitive, once I get to an FKK. Yes the 50 Eur upgrade is double the 25 Eur upgrade, but I doubt if most sessions go the extra yard. The opposite side of the coin is that some sp in NRW clubs, try to keep the sessions to the basic time since the additional time in the room "costs" them, as they could theoretically be in a new 1/2 hour session and making 50 Eur. And at the FFM clubs there's usually a greater variety of things to do during "down" time.