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FKK trip. Day 6 – Oase
Time to visit the famous Oase. Took the train to Fridrichsdorf then a cab to the club (15E). Arrived around 2 PM on Friday. There seemed to be 50. 60 girls and 30-50 men; these numbers doubled by 5-6 PM. Fair variety, mostly (70-80%) Romanian. Quality relatively good, although not as many 9's and 10's as I had expected. The club is large with a nice outdoor area used during the day by the men. Very few ladies venture out there. They stay in the dark lounge area and in the hallways between the lounge, changing area, Jacuzzi, and main suite of rooms.
Settled in and looked around a bit see who was interesting and identify some recommended ladies discussed on the board. As expected, I received many approaches, which I politely declined. I did not locate any of the recommended girls with the exception of Jessica from Romania. Fiden, Louisa, and Angie were rumored to be there, but I never found them, despite talking to over 20 ladies. After an hour or so, I had to make a choice.
Samira: A petite Romanian / Italian 'spinner' with fair skin, brown hair, and brown eyes. She approached from behind (I now know this is a bad sign) and seemed cute, so I went for it. Bad mistake. In the room, she was not as attractive as she seemed in the dark on 'the floor' and immediately started the upsell. When I politely declined and asked for a 30 minute standard session, she was clearly pissed, got a bad attitude, and started rushing. Finished after about 20 minutes and happy the session was over. Actually asked for a tip. Did not get one. Not a good start. 7/6/5.
I ran into a few fellas from the states and hung out with them for a while. They were having a fantastic time so I was hopeful for the rest of the day. Things did get better from there:
Marina: Romania: Tall, black hair, brown eyes, olive skin, beautiful face, and a perfect body with natural Bs, butterfly tattoo on her lower back. 30 minute session, with extras, no kissing, so I can't call it GFE, but very good otherwise. Also asked for a tip, but did not get one (on principle).9/10/8.
I met a few ladies of interest during the day, including Jennifer from Spain, Nancy from Bulgaria, and Ava and Nicole from Romania, but our schedules never overlapped. I saw a thin blonde wearing a necktie that I was convinced was Chris, based upon descriptions in the forum. When I stopped by to chat, I found that it was not Chris, but:
Saida: Romania – Short, deyed blonde hair, brown eyes, petite 'Spinner', with a nice bottom and A's. Late in the day, so I wanted to stick with a 30 min session. She worked the upsell, but was polite when I declined. Minimal kissing; otherwise good service. 7/8/7. Headed out around 8 PM.
Overall, I was disappointed in my first visit to Oase. I was not fond of the constant approaches, upsell, attitude, and general 'sharkiness'. This, along with the layout and lighting of the club made it challenging to make a good selection, particularly when the club is busy. None of the service was remotely GFE, and far below the standard I have experienced in the NRW, in my opinion. I did not find the quality and variety to be as good as described by others.
On the other hand, this may have just been a bad day (and I remind myself that a bad day at and FKK is still a good day by any other measure). I expect that some Oase regulars will disagree with my opinions and point out the flaws in my strategy. It possible that results may improve with a different approach (go for one hour sessions, stay later etc.). Perhaps Oase deserves another try.
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[QUOTE=BonePony;1330597]Time to visit the famous Oase. Took the train to Fridrichsdorf then a cab to the club (15E). Arrived around 2 PM on Friday. There seemed to be 50. 60 girls and 30-50 men; these numbers doubled by 5-6 PM. Fair variety, mostly (70-80%) Romanian. Quality relatively good, although not as many 9's and 10's as I had expected. .[/QUOTE]For the record, the Cab should not exceed 10 euros from Friedrichsdorf station. Perhaps you included the train fare.
There are not that many 9s and very few 10s. I mark tough.
[QUOTE]Settled in and looked around a bit see who was interesting and identify some recommended ladies discussed on the board. As expected, I received many approaches, which I politely declined. I did not locate any of the recommended girls with the exception of Jessica from Romania. Fiden, Louisa, and Angie were rumored to be there, but I never found them, despite talking to over 20 ladies. After an hour or so, I had to make a choice.[/QUOTE]The best girls can be quite busy. You should watch the guys and girls coming out of a booking.
[QUOTE]Samira: A petite Romanian / Italian 'spinner' with fair skin, brown hair, and brown eyes. She approached from behind (I now know this is a bad sign) and seemed cute, so I went for it. Bad mistake. In the room, she was not as attractive as she seemed in the dark on 'the floor' and immediately started the upsell. When I politely declined and asked for a 30 minute standard session.[/QUOTE]Yes you should be ignoring these girls. Consider some of the girls just sitting quietly, or girls that are busy that they they don't even need to look for customers.
[QUOTE]Marina: Romania: Tall, black hair, brown eyes, olive skin, beautiful face, and a perfect body with natural Bs, butterfly tattoo on her lower back. 30 minute session, with extras, no kissing, so I can't call it GFE, but very good otherwise. Also asked for a tip, but did not get one (on principle).9/10/8.[/QUOTE]Thank god, you found a reasonable girl. There are plenty of GFE girls too, if you find them.
[QUOTE]Overall, I was disappointed in my first visit to Oase. I was not fond of the constant approaches, upsell, attitude, and general 'sharkiness'. This, along with the layout and lighting of the club made it challenging to make a good selection, particularly when the club is busy. None of the service was remotely GFE, and far below the standard I have experienced in the NRW, in my opinion. I did not find the quality and variety to be as good as described by others.
On the other hand, this may have just been a bad day (and I remind myself that a bad day at and FKK is still a good day by any other measure). I expect that some Oase regulars will disagree with my opinions and point out the flaws in my strategy. It possible that results may improve with a different approach (go for one hour sessions, stay later etc.). Perhaps Oase deserves another try.[/QUOTE]Look, I have collections of good girls, and ocassionally try a new girl. I get failed choices on occasions too. So I have no idea what percentage of girls are really good. There certainly are adequate numbers of them. Every time I go to Oase at least 1 or 2 of my regular girls will be there. I can fall back on these girls when unsure who else to try. If you are new, you should try talking to some apparent regular customers who know a lot of girls and can give some tips. Ask guys to point out girls of certain names that come highly recommended. They won't know all the girls, but the more famous ones are fairly well known.
Unfortunately girls will pester new customers moreso than me as many will know my face and not bother. My technique to avoid girls approaching is mainly to refuse to be interested enough to actually look at them. If the girl sees you are looking at something else and disinterested in even making eye contact with her, she may leave you alone. If this still doesn't put her off, then strike her out as a "shark" immediately.
Above all, do not let a girl choose you. You pick her after really getting plenty of time to consider her, and be sure she is worth a try. Yes its time intensive. Perhaps you can try just pot luck for the first girl of the day but take more time with the others.
BTW, Girls are not asking me for tips, but I rarely go for 30 min sessions. Obviously I terminate with bad girls though at 30 mins or less. I guess they try it on with new customers.
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[QUOTE=Yakob;1330403]What? Is this a joke? Is this your funny way of saying you have a big cock?[/QUOTE]No, its another way of saying my dick isn't hard enough to squeeze into that tight thing, or maybe the way it curves just isn't quite right for me. Who knows why, but some girls are easier to fuck than others.
Judith and Diana are also lovely girls that I find difficult to fuck due to their exceptional tightness. I am not trying to be funny, its an annoying problem for me. I do not have a fat cock. I think its normal width.
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[QUOTE=BonePony;1330597]Overall, I was disappointed in my first visit to Oase. I was not fond of the constant approaches, upsell, attitude, and general 'sharkiness'. This, along with the layout and lighting of the club made it challenging to make a good selection, particularly when the club is busy. None of the service was remotely GFE, and far below the standard I have experienced in the NRW, in my opinion. I did not find the quality and variety to be as good as described by others.[/QUOTE]I actually concur with your experiences. My last visit to Oase mid-August was very disappointing to say the least, and even if I hope that it was just a bad day, I can't stop feeling that Oase is declining in quality. I read Szygies tip about looking for girls that are busy and never go with girls that approach you, but personally I've found it a hit or miss game. I've probably had as much bad experience with girls that I've picked up, as well as girls that have approached me, and vice versa. And I definitely are too lazy to wait for popular girls, I'm there to relax not search desperately for girls which pussy looks like a airport runway. Last week I had a terrific time at World and it's definitely become my favourite club. World has everything that was good in Oase, and more! I'm fed up with girls with attitudes, that hassle you with upsell, nagging about tip etc. The tip culture has become a plague in Oase. Have all the girls been apprentices in Palace or what? I hope that this tendancy will change for the better, but until then I'll go somewhere else.
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Oase 9/23
Since I am back in the Frankfurt area one of the first items on my itinerary was a visit to Oase. I arrived around 7PM and was primarily in search of Alexia and Diana (red-headed Romania) as I had my two best sessions with them on my last visit. While in line paying at the door who do I immediately see but Diana. She was on her way to a room so I didn't stop her. On my way to the locker room I saw Alexia headed to a room so immediately I knew both of them were working. I later discovered they both were on holiday for a few weeks so I guess my timing was good.
I spent some time looking around to see who was there. There are many new girls from my last visit in June. I ended up going with Saida on my first session. She did not kiss much but gave a very good BBBJ. Since it was my first session she went slow and made the session last near the 30 minutes which was good. I would maybe repeat.
After the first session I found Diana and Alexia and they both remembered me as they recognized me from before. I went with both of them for my second session. We ended up going for 1 hour and the session was good as I had remembered. Neither of them kissed much (Diana a bit more but Alexia very little) but great BBBJ and 69 with each of them.
I find myself becoming more and more picky as I visit the FKK's more often. For my third session I really wanted to try someone new but took a long time and could not decide who I might want to try. There were many attractive options but many of them were somewhat new so I was afraid the quality would be poor. Diana came and found me and I was tired of trying to decide on someone else so she and I went together and had Monica from Romania join us. Another very satisfactory session it was. Monica was good and by now Diana pretty much knows how to push my buttons. I was taking a little longer and I thinked Diana sensed it so she moved into 69 position without even asking and ended it pretty quickly after that.
For the fourth and final session I knew for sure I needed somewhat I knew would be good so ended up again with Diana (can you tell I like Diana) and Alexia. We started around 3AM so I was worried that maybe I would not finish by closing at 4AM. That was not a worry. The final session with these two was maybe the best of several with them. It was 3 times better than the earlier session (which was good). There's just something about 2 incredibly hot girls working you over at the same time.
I'm heading north to Artemis for a couple of days but will be back to Oase later in the week. I was very intrigued by the brunette Angie from Italy. I found her quite attractive. I was somewhat hesitant because she said she's only been at Oase for 1 month. Has anyone sessioned with her and could recommend good or bad? I was also wondering if anyone could give a description of Yana and Olga. I have not been with any Polish girls yet at Oase so might have to try one of them out.
BB
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Statistics
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1330878]Look, I have collections of good girls, and ocassionally try a new girl. I get failed choices on occasions too. So I have no idea what percentage of girls are really good. There certainly are adequate numbers of them. Every time I go to Oase at least 1 or 2 of my regular girls will be there. I can fall back on these girls when unsure who else to try. If you are new, you should try talking to some apparent regular customers who know a lot of girls and can give some tips. Ask guys to point out girls of certain names that come highly recommended. They won't know all the girls, but the more famous ones are fairly well known.
Unfortunately girls will pester new customers more so than me as many will know my face and not bother. My technique to avoid girls approaching is mainly to refuse to be interested enough to actually look at them. If the girl sees you are looking at something else and disinterested in even making eye contact with her, she may leave you alone. If this still doesn't put her off, then strike her out as a "shark" immediately.
Above all, do not let a girl choose you. You pick her after really getting plenty of time to consider her, and be sure she is worth a try. Yes its time intensive. Perhaps you can try just pot luck for the first girl of the day but take more time with the others.
BTW, Girls are not asking me for tips, but I rarely go for 30 min sessions. Obviously I terminate with bad girls though at 30 mins or less. I guess they try it on with new customers.[/QUOTE]According to my 2012 records. 2 out of every 3 new girls I choose turns out to give me great / outstanding service at Oase (I. E. No complaints). My actual numbers are 18 outstanding successes out of a total of 27 new girls tried in 2012 (so far). For these stats, I am only counting each girl once and I am not counting women that I already knew from 2011. I return to my favorites over and over but these repeats are not included in this statistic. So, that means that I strike out on average 1 out of every 3 times I am choosing a brand new girl. I have to admit though, sometimes my dissatisfaction may be just because we didn't click for whatever reason. Sometimes the girl still does everything right but we just don't click due to lack of chemistry or something. I certainly don't feel like I'm striking out 1 out of every 3 times since I'm going back to my favorites all of the time.
In reading my statistic, you should also consider that I am fairly picky, only going for what I consider the top 10-15% of the selection. I imagine that if I dipped below the top 20% that I might have even better success rates on service quality.
Luckily, we usually only lose 50 Euros on the ones that don't work out. Like Syzygies, I almost always go for extended sessions except when things are not working out and I realize it quickly enough to terminate before the half hour mark. Occasionally, I've talked myself into going past the half hour mark to see if things improve (she was super hot ok?) but I usually find myself disappointed in that situation.
As I mentioned before on this forum, I used to think I had mad skills at picking the good ones and avoiding the sharks since I was running into so many winners at Oase. Later I realized that it's probably not my skills at avoiding sharks but rather that it probably doesn't really matter who I choose at Oase because most of them seem to give me good service. They're all in a rather competitive market. Usually, you've got a huge selection to choose from. I would think that most of them know that you have your choice of where you spend your cash. For me, I wonder if it helps that they see me there day after day during my trips so perhaps they realize they have a potential for return business with me.
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[QUOTE=Sucker17;1330958]My last visit to Oase mid-August was very disappointing to say the least, and even if I hope that it was just a bad day, I can't stop feeling that Oase is declining in quality.[/QUOTE]May I ask how many visits over the last year you've made to Oase to base this statement? I see you started the fkk hobby in november of last year, fyi many girls go on holiday in august. By mid september the girls are back eager to refill their coffers.
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[QUOTE=BigBad; 1330981]I was very intrigued by the brunette Angie from Italy. I found her quite attractive. I was somewhat hesitant because she said she's only been at Oase for 1 month. Has anyone sessioned with her and could recommend good or bad?
I was also wondering if anyone could give a description of Yana and Olga. I have not been with any Polish girls yet at Oase so might have to try one of them out.[/QUOTE]I only know a brunette Angela or Angie from Slovakia who has been at Oase for more than 1 month. Maybe she is just making up the Italy part since I doubt if there are truly any Italian girls working in the FKKs apart from Silvana at World who Italian guys say she speaks with a particular Italian dialect. It is interesting that there are many girls now in the club using the same name. I guess with so many girls it is hard to police.
RTFF for descriptions of Yana and Olga. Use the search function for my reports where I call her Yana and BadinSweet's report where he calls her Jana. For Olga, search for reports by Maxime and myself.
There are a number of Polish girls at Oase who are predominately blondes.
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[QUOTE=Yakob;1331073]RTFF[/QUOTE]Where is the love?
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1331005]May I ask how many visits over the last year you've made to Oase to base this statement? I see you started the fkk hobby in november of last year, fyi many girls go on holiday in august. By mid september the girls are back eager to refill their coffers.[/QUOTE]Breadman, I'm not talking about the line-up. I am talking about the general attitude of the girls in Oase! I don't care less if the line-up counts 100 girls or 20 girls. The most important is that the girls are good looking and mentally have a good attitude. I've been to Oase in November, January, March and August and only describing a trend I've witnessed over this short period of time, but if you think all girls in Oase are great, then good for you. I hope you still think the same when you are asked to give tip, nagging about anal, CIM, or even get in a bad mood when you decline them in general? But you are right, they are all eager to refill their coffers!
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[QUOTE=Sucker17;1331271]. I hope you still think the same when you are asked to give tip, nagging about anal, CIM, or even get in a bad mood when you decline them in general? But you are right, they are all eager to refill their coffers![/QUOTE]I was inquiring more about the looks of the girls, not their attitudes. Thought that was what you were refering.
I've been asked countless times for a tip at all the clubs, not just Oase. My answer is always the same "I don't tip but I'd like to take you to the room again". And I will repeat with the girls who give great service even with the upsell. Amazingly the upsell goes away when you do repeat. Well, most of the time.
As to their attitude when I turn them down, I try not to use the same turn down line all the time. Little trick, throw some water in your hair and say "I'm sorry, just got out of the room" and let her feel your wet hair. If its a girl you want to do, say you saw her and took a shower before approaching her. I think there's a certain skill of turning down girls, maybe you need to work on some better material. Turning down a girl is the easy part, getting a girl to quit her upsell in the room is another matter.
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Why do less than 5% of the girls (at Oase or any other club) ask me for a tip? Is it because I am German and they know Germans have long pockets and short arms? Or do they ask all the US guys for a tip because they know tipping is more common in the US?
HB
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Oase Construction?
Just wondering the update for the new interior portion of Oase. Planning on heading over from USA second week of November. Hope to see a new refreshed club
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[QUOTE=Breadman; 1331302]I've been asked countless times for a tip at all the clubs, not just Oase. My answer is always the same "I don't tip but I'd like to take you to the room again".
As to their attitude when I turn them down, I try not to use the same turn down line all the time. Little trick, throw some water in your hair and say "I'm sorry, just got out of the room" and let her feel your wet hair.
Turning down a girl is the easy part, getting a girl to quit her upsell in the room is another matter.[/QUOTE]Hey Man,
You know, I've been clubbing in D'land since around '97 and I've never had a girl who has provided good to great service ever ask for a tip. Not once.
I have had a few smellers try and hit me with the "Bisschen Trinkgeld, Baby?" demand on a few occasions. It's especially satisfying when they try to do it when there are lots of other guys (read: potential customers) around. This usually solicits a response (delivered in a rather audible voice) along the nature of:
"What! For that? Baby, you have to be joking. I mean you were ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE in there. Really girl, I've had lumpy mattresses and dust mites that were better bedroom company than what you just put me through. An alligator probably gives better head. Certainly less toothy. And you want to tip for that? Wait right here. I got to go get my friends so they can hear this. Yo guys, come here. OK baby. Now say it again, only this time can you look even more grumpy and bitchy than you did the first time?"
Usually there off and away by the time I get to the "absolutely terrible" part, But I have had a few stay for the whole performance. In truth, it is rare that I have any of them who ask for a tip. There might potentially be a few more, but since I don't go to Palace...
Cheers,
Dedalus
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Tipping Americans
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1331331]Why do less than 5% of the girls (at Oase or any other club) ask me for a tip? Is it because I am German and they know Germans have long pockets and short arms? Or do they ask all the US guys for a tip because they know tipping is more common in the US?
HB[/QUOTE]Rarely ever does anybody ask me for a tip at a FKK. And it's even more rare for me to pay one!