Some recent reviews from my last trip
Oase Day ONE Reviews:
I was surprised to see Anna again. We eventually sat in the garden to catch up. Her smile, beautiful eyes and soft caress of her hands had me excited in no time. We got a room and immediately picked up our passion and heat from March. Anna is a shy elegant woman that has only works rarely. I have come to realize at FKKs most often the best experiences come from the seemingly quietest girls. Will Repeat, Yes recommended.
Angie is a petite small 5'3" 105bs 32A 24 34 Romanian. Straight long brunette hair to lower back and a young looking self confessed 25 years old. Bright smiling eyes and incredible happy smile. She hates approaching men. In the room we kissed softly then deeply. Her BBBJ / BL was excellent and had me on the edge in no time. I laid her down and kissed her softly before moving down to her cute A cup breasts and small perfect areaola and nipples. She loved the TS as I worked my way down to her beautiful shaved pussy. I teased and played with her delicate folds. Smiling broadly Angie restarted her lustful BBBJ / BL. She domed up and climbed on for CG. Active wild riding as she tried to get herself off again. A great session with a very pretty and petite girl. Will Repeat, Yes recommended.
Rachel is 5'5" 115lbs athletic slim but busty 32B / C 23 34 about 20 years old. German and Carribean mix with short spiky Brunette hair. Very light mulatto that is pale compared to most EEs in the club. In the room she asked what kind of service I wanted. Looking to upsell €50 to Cim. I declined. On the bed she coyly asked if she could kiss me. A beautiful cute face with looks compared here to Halle Berry and Jessica Alba. Her BBBJ / BL was decent but a little aggressive. She seemed to want to process me as she denied DATY saying she "doesn't like it". I asked to TS on her plump full youthful B / C cups. She loved it and later asked me to lick her pussy. Rachel has a lovely soft pussy and I slowly worked her up to come quickly and rather quietly. Rachel wanted Doggy and hard. A pleasant satisfying experience with a hot girl. Possible repeat, Yes recommended.
Oase Day Two Reviews:
Bianca is 5'6" 115lbs 34C 24 34. 23 years old Gorgeous body with a very Romy angular looking face. Large cat eyes with too much liner. Nose a bit big but from some angles. Other angles AAB. A little stuck up as I would compliment her on her beautiful body and she'd say "I know" but not in a cute funny way. Kept looking at herself in the mirror. The session was just OK with too many restrictions. DFK was lacking any intent or passion. Incredible large firm tits on such a slim girl. She asked for DATY to be kept dry. WTF No O for her. OK BJ but no BL. FS was ok and got the job done. No repeat No Rec.
Roxanna from Moldavia has a beautiful face. Red hair in a ponytail 5'7" 125lbs 34B 24 35. 21 years old.
Decent session with a very pretty girl. Breasts are soft. TS was nice No O in DATY as Roxanna restrains herself. BBBJ & FS were good but not great compared to the other dozen girls that week. Unlikely Repeat, Possibly recommend depending on who else is working.
Hungarian Clara is 5'1" 95lbs 30B 22 32 tiny girl. 23 years old. Some up close MILF evidence on her breasts and stomach.
OK session that squeezed out a shot. DFK was just not sensuous. Box a bit big. No repeat Unlikely Rec.
Romanian Larissa has Wavy light brown hair to mid back. Another incredible firm curvy slim Romanian. 5'5" 115lbs 34C 24 36. 23 years old. Passionate dfk. BBBJ / BL full service in CG and mish. Possible repeat, Yes recommended.
Isy my Brunette hair Bulgarian has lost a few pounds that she gained last time. Looked amazingly hot. Full C cups on a slim darkly tanned bod. She makes for a cute fun passionate session We laughed and talked. Great DFK, TS, BBBJ, BL almost RJ, DATY brought her close to the edge but she needed my cock. She furiously rubbed her pussy as I fucked her. 30mins for 50€. Will likely still repeat, Yes recommended.
Oase Day Three Reviews:
I sat relaxing on the lawn beds for an hour with Romanian Angie before we sessioned. A beautiful sunny warm day and only 50€ first session. This time Angie tells me she doesn't BL. Funny she said outright I don't do that. WTF I tried to change her mind but didn't argue with her. Great bbj but no BL this time. Limited dfk. She again had a thunderous quivering O. Likely repeat if she BLs again. Possible repeat if BL, Yes recommended.
Oase Day Six Reviews:
R epeated with 18 why / o Romanian Diana. Cute girl with great firm 18 why / o BCs An unrushed session of DFK, TS DATY BBJ BL FS. She had a nice O and allowed digits. Good start to the day 6. Possible repeat, Yes recommended.
Rosemary is a 5'7" tall willowy Blonde Romanian. Pale white Alibaster skin compared to her over tanned Romanian sisters. Wavy long hair to mid back almost reaching her pink fringe skirt / belt. 120lbs 32B 24 34. 20 years old. Very nice DFK. Enjoyed TS and came after prolonged DATY. Money well spent. A bit of a clockwatcher but will repeat as middle relief.
Likely repeat, Yes recommended.
I later see Gabriella from Venezuela and decide to repeat with her. Great DFK from her sensuous full lips. She has beautiful expressive eyes as we try to communicate in a mix of Spanglish and German. No O in DATY but my efforts were appreciated. Good MposFS in CG, MishUL, MishDL. Would repeat as middle relief. Yes repeat, Yes recommended.
Isy Bulgarian.
I was going to leave then eventually Isy my Brunette hair Bulgarian appears so I grab her even though I just finished my 3rdSOG that 6th day. It almost felt like she was doing me a favour. Felt a bit processed this time. Now a possible repeat, Yes recommended.
S5 trains to Oase back to normal
Recently I reported that trains now left Friedrichsdorf until 1:30 AM. After a PM from a member, I went to DB and those 1 AM return trains to FFM Hbf are gone now. Only thing I can figure out is they put on a couple of extra trips for "Hessen Days" which was going on then- some regional spring festival that had all my usual hotels through the roof for the period. B and B price doubled or they were sold out. There was a big night fair a couple of stops from Bad Homberg that literally filled the train with returning revellers at 11 PM so. Too bad, would have been nice to have that public transport flexibility.
Hessen days isn't a celebration of hessen bub's birthday is it?
Beffen
Kiev versus FKKs. The perennial question revisited. Oase report
I posted this discussion originally in the Kiev thread. But I believe it would be of interest to the FKK Oase readership as well.
My Trip for Weekend Aug 31 – Sept 6.
I am confronting the age old question of FKKs vs Kiev in designing my next trip. I'm undecided as to the best course for my upcoming trip on the Labor Day holiday weekend of Aug 31 – Sept 6. I have already booked my flight arriving in Frankfurt Sept 1 and returning from Frankfurt Sept 6. But I am torn between staying for all five nights of the long weekend in Frankfurt, or flying to Kiev for a visit from Sept 2 – 5, which will leave me with only the first night and the last night in Frankfurt, and three nights in Kiev in between.
The reason for my indecision is because of my reactions to what happened on my last recent trip to Kiev and Frankfurt for the weekend of July 1 – 5. I am still thinking about the hotness of the sex session with the three hot Romanian sex kittens, and it's drawing me back to Oase to see them like a magnet churning in my loins. LOL.
MY LAST TRIP: KIEV: The trip to Kiev was awesome. I had amazing sex with one of my favorite girls from Rio on Friday night, then on Saturday night I was with Alexandra, a new girl from Rio, and then Sunday I spent a wonderful 3 afternoon hours in bed with Alina, a sexy blond from vodkaescorts, and topped it off with an incredible 3 hour duo experience with my favorite Rio girl, together with Gella, a really cute blond, who was a new girl there. It was a great weekend filled with a total of 12 hours of very good sex at the $100 / hr rate and loads of awesome visual memories to savor until my next visit to Kiev.
MY LAST TRIP: FKK OASE: On the way back home, I spent the night of July 4 in Brussels and sampled the offerings of the red light district there on Aerschot Street alongside the Gare du Nord, and the next day I stopped in Frankfurt on July 5 and spent an amazing afternoon with three hot Romanian girls at FKK Oase which still has my head spinning. The first girl had very pretty eyes a slender sexy good body but can't recall her name but she hangs out with the following two girls, Joanna the prettiest one with an awesome body, very pretty face w kissable soft lips, and lastly Larissa attractive but not as facially pretty as Joanna, and not as hardbody lean as the first two girls, but she was more sexually responsive and her BBBJ felt much better for some reason, and this even though she was the third girl in a span of four hours, maybe the inside of her mouth is softer or something. I couldn't stop thinking about the awesome sex with these three very hot Romanian girls at Oase for many days, even though I had just come from bedding four of Kiev's striking beauties. For this reason I must return to the FKK's. There is something powerfully sexual about the experience that stirs my sexual imagination. The three sessions at Oase were a total of four hours for 400 Euro plus the 65 Euro entrance fee, with the total cost in dollars for the four hours of bliss being approximately (465 Euro =) $650.
COSTS: Clearly, when one is considering large amounts of p4p sex over a weekend, an important aspect to consider is that the rates are much cheaper in Kiev than in the Frankfurt FKKs. For the 12 hours of sex that cost $1200 in Kiev, one would have to pay 1200 Euro, or $1684 USD in Frankfurt FKKs for the same amount of time.
BEAUTY: At the FKKs, the girls are mostly hot girls, definitely doable for the most part. I am partial to the dark-haired swarthy-looking girls from places like Romania and Bulgaria, who tend to have very sexy, sculpted hard—bodies. So I am a happy—camper in the FKKs where there are many such girls. Of course, at Oase I also saw the beautiful and sexy, Nina, a home—grown German blond sex machine. There are often very pretty Polish blondes there as well. But somehow, when I consider the Ukrainian hotties I have been fucking from Rio strip club, I personally feel that the Kiev girls are more consistently beautiful and more generally, on a higher level of looks than the FKK girls, but this is subjective, of course.
SERVICE: In this area, I feel that the FKK girls, in general, provide better service on a more consistent basis. The uncovered blow job is standard in the FKKs, whereas in Kiev, there is no guarantee of an uncovered blow job, or a concept of a 'standard service' that includes it. Each girl in Kiev is different, and an uncovered blow job must be agreed to separately.
NOTE: FKK standard session is supposed to include uncovered blow job, however, some girls, especially at FKK Palace have taken to trying to charge another 50 Euro for it as an 'extra, ' a practice we must unilaterally reject because it will ruin something that was great about the FKKs. The best way is to side—step the issue by telling the girl that instead of paying her 100 Euro for a 30 minute session with uncovered blow job, you are prepared to give her more time and pay her the 100 Euro for an hour session but only, of course, if the blow job is uncovered, and no more of this nonsense about extras. Most of the time it works for me, and if it doesn't, I pass on doing a session with such a girl charging as an extra for a service that was always considered included in the standard session. Of course, if you are a guy who doesn't want to spend 100 Euro for an hour session, this won't work for you, and you should pass on that girl.
ENVIRONMENT: I include this as a factor to consider because there is nothing quite like the impact of the environment of an FKK! When you walk into a room filled with gorgeous naked women, all wanting sex with you, just for the asking, it is a shocking, mind—blowing, truly unique experience, that cannot be rivaled. You will not find anything in Kiev to compare with this aspect. The FKK is a heady, sexual, hedonistic extravaganza, that has to be experienced to understand it, because words cannot capture the feeling of it adequately. I have compared it to having an open pass to go to Hugh Heffner's Playboy Mansion, where Centerfold models lounge around the pool and the grounds, and that you can also have sex with as many of those hot girls as you want, effortlessly. In Kiev, you have to do a lot more work to get good pussy into your bed.
SEXUAL CAPACITY: An important consideration is one's own sexual capacity. In the environment of the FKK, one can quickly become sexually exhausted. There is a limit on how many times a man can ejaculate in one day, and a limit in how long a man may be able to continue to maintain erections in order to perform sex, even with the assistance of pills like Viagra or Cialis. And multiplying the effects of having a lot of sex, by trying to do it for many days in a row, one after the other, one will certainly reach one's limit rather quickly in an FKK environment – a few days for most men. Since there is a separate entrance fee of 65 or 75 Euro to be paid when entering the FKK, it is to one's advantage to have as much sex as possible in each visit, to amortize the entrance cost over more sessions, which brings down the net cost for each session. Let's say, you're an average 47 to 53 year old, and you can ejaculate 3 or 4 times a day, without too much problem, but at the FKK you're going to try to do this for a few days in a row on a weekend vacation. You will most likely find that you reached a saturation point for sex after a few days, and you won't even want to go have more sex. What you will feel you want most – is a rest! So for most men, it is best to break up visits to FKKs to no more than a few days at a time, unless you are a unique sexual amazon.
WHO WINS? : So with regard to the above considerations, Kiev wins when it comes to lower costs cumulatively and overall. (But FKKs win when it comes to unit cost, because in FKKs you can be with a girl for only half an hour at a cost of 50 Euro, whereas in Kiev you are required to go for an hour session for the most part, and in Rio there is a three hour minimum with each session). Kiev also wins when it comes to beauty. On the other hand, FKKs win when it comes to being assured of good service, including uncovered oral sex, as in Kiev this depends on each girl, although most of the girls that I have been with in Kiev did great uncovered blow jobs without even being asked. And FKKs win when it comes to sexuality of the environment. Kiev is merely a nightcub or strip club scene, or on the street, or outcalls to your apartment.
MY CONCLUSION: I think they both have their strong and weak points, so what I have done as a compromise, is to combine the two. I like to start in Frankfurt FKKs for a frenzied day or even two days, to get the edge off. And then, go to Kiev for the sex—weekend where the goal is to get the most beautiful girls possible to share my bed, and then return home by way of Frankfurt for a final FKK fling to bang as many hotties as is possible. So far, this approach has worked well for me. So that's probably what I'll do this time too.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1175781]Have you taken into account the flight cost from Frankfurt to Kiev and return?[/QUOTE][U]Travel costs should be a minor factor in the decision to go to Frankfurt or Kiev or both[/U]
But, of course, I have taken the costs into account, friend. Those prices were as follows: From frankfurt one can get a train to CGN Cologne / Bonn airport from where there are Wizzair flights to Kiev Zhulyany airport, but as of this writing it turns out that cheaper flights are available on Austrian Air for around $240. (Note: In the past, Ukraine Int'l Air (flyuia. Com) ran a very cheap route to Kiev from both Frankfurt and London, but they have raised their prices and are not as competitive anymore.)
But your question is only relevant for a monger who is already in Frankfurt or decided on going to Frankfurt, but is considering also going to Kiev, instead of paying for another 12 hours of p4p in Frankfurt at the slightly higher rate there. In this case, to answer your question, going to Kiev for those 12 hours of p4p will cost him $1200 as opposed to the $1684 it would cost in Frankfurt for the same amount of p4p, a cost difference of $484, while the travel cost for the flight to get to Kiev is $240. So one wouldn't lose money by going to Kiev and might actually save a little in p4p expenses. But this should not be one's only reason for going to Kiev, as it is only a small consideration.
However, my comparison of Kiev and Frankfurt prices is addressing the traveler who has not yet decided which city to visit in the first place, and is comparing the cost of p4p sex in each city.
Travel costs are a separate issue, although an important one. Getting to either city will incur trvel costs. From USA it is generally more expensive to fly to Kiev than to Frankfurt, but not by much, maybe $100 to $200 more in airfare. But one could also fly to London and take Wizzair flights to Kiev, or Ryanair flights to Frnkfurt Hahn and take the Bohr bus (1hr45min plus waiting time in Hahn airport until next bus) to Frankfurt Hbf, but these options require willingness to consume time and make multiple stopovers, and many will prefer the direct flights even at a higher cost.
For example, for the weekend in question I could have lessened the travel costs by flying first to Dublin on USAir for $592 and then taking Ryanair flights from Dublin to London Stansted, and then from London Stansted to Frankfurt Hahn, and then wait 1hr15min until the next Bohr bus to Frankfurt Hbf, all for a total of just over $700. But to avoid all the stops and waiting in between, I opted for the Singapore Air non stop flights direct to Frankfurt for $875, because I valued the convenience more than the $175 cost savings possible the first way.
For me, the deciding factors which caused me to decide to go to both cities, were the FKK's "environment" experience factors and the ability to be with many more women due to the lower unit cost at the FKK, while Kev's awesome beauties at low cost were the reasons I wanted to go there. I will have a strong taste of the goodies in the FKKs but not more than sexual capacity saturation would allow me to enjoy, and then off to serxcapades with the beauties in Kiev, to get the best of both worlds. The higher cost of getting to Europe from the USA makes it more worthwhile to try to cover both cities for a nominal increase in travel costs to get from Frankfurt to Kiev.
LJ
Comparing FKKs to Other Places
Liljoey I love the comparisons you make, with the FKKs of Germany being one of the set-ups you look at. The only other places in the world that I know of that offer the same sort of environment as a FKK are the termas of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Lots hot of girls of all shapes and colors walking around in skimpy clothing, but offering service that's SUPERIOR to even the service that can be found in the standard FKK. Now, just think about that!
In general, the facilities that can be found at a top tier FKK are better than what you will find at a Tier 1 terma (for example, the termas tend to be small in comparison), but the top termas are clean and otherwise hit the mark. They also have plenty of the darker, swarthy types you like. Admittedly, Rio de Janeiro has also gotten to be quite expensive. During my last trip, the exchange rate for the dollar was 1. 6 to 1. 0. It's better for the Euro, but certainly not how it used to be even a few years ago.
And you're right. When you go to these places (FKK or terma), you better have some sexual stamina because if you don't, you will fuck yourself out quick! LOL! After my first trip to Rio de Janeiro, I was literally run down and sick for an entire week afterwards! LOL! After that, I decided that when I go on a terma or a FKK tour, I needed to pace myself and not try to bone everything that looks good to me. So, I try to stick with two to three tutes per stop, with at least two pops per session.
If I can do that at several FKKs or termas over a 10 to 14 day trip, then I know I'm going to be completely satisfied. And, it will also help me to establish and stay within a budget that I know I can handle. The biggest problem I have now is finding those two or three girls a day that I just have to have. When you've been around as many tutes as I have, you start getting really picky. A nice side benefit from that is that you spend less money! LOL! Anyway, thanks for that good, detailed side-by-side comparison. Sounds like you have arrived at a decision that will work for you. I find it funny that one of your favorite places in Ukraine is called "Rio". The reputation of the "marvelous city" stretches far and wide!
Too much travel, not enough rest
[QUOTE=Liljoey; 1177350]I am confronting the age old question of FKKs vs Kiev in designing my next trip. I'm undecided as to the best course for my upcoming trip on the Labor Day holiday weekend of Aug 31 – Sept 6. I have already booked my flight arriving in Frankfurt Sept 1 and returning from Frankfurt Sept 6. But I am torn between staying for all five nights of the long weekend in Frankfurt, or flying to Kiev for a visit from Sept 2 – 5, which will leave me with only the first night and the last night in Frankfurt, and three nights in Kiev in between.
The higher cost of getting to Europe from the USA makes it more worthwhile to try to cover both cities for a nominal increase in travel costs to get from Frankfurt to Kiev.
SEXUAL CAPACITY: An important consideration is one's own sexual capacity. In the environment of the FKK, one can quickly become sexually exhausted. There is a limit on how many times a man can ejaculate in one day, and a limit in how long a man may be able to continue to maintain erections in order to perform sex, even with the assistance of pills like Viagra or Cialis. And multiplying the effects of having a lot of sex, by trying to do it for many days in a row, one after the other, one will certainly reach one's limit rather quickly in an FKK environment – a few days for most men. Since there is a separate entrance fee of 65 or 75 Euro to be paid when entering the FKK, it is to one's advantage to have as much sex as possible in each visit, to amortize the entrance cost over more sessions, which brings down the net cost for each session. Let's say, you're an average 47 to 53 year old, and you can ejaculate 3 or 4 times a day, without too much problem, but at the FKK you're going to try to do this for a few days in a row on a weekend vacation. You will most likely find that you reached a saturation point for sex after a few days, and you won't even want to go have more sex. What you will feel you want most – is a rest! So for most men, it is best to break up visits to FKKs to no more than a few days at a time, unless you are a unique sexual amazon.
LJ[/QUOTE]For a 5 day trip I'd do one or the other, not both. Your spending way too much time getting from point A to point B without adding in a point C. Have you given World, Sharks, Atlantika or Mainhattan a try yet? It also sounds like your idea of taking a break from the fkk clubs is to spend more time traveling to another country. Its possible its the traveling, not the amount of sex, that is the cause of your exhaustion. I'd imagine not many fkk trips are weekend trips if your flying in from the US. And anytime I feel that I need a rest I can take a nap safely in any club. In Kiev you have to book ahead of time or head out for the hunt and return with the girls you've found and try to perform even if your exhausted. At the fkk clubs you decide when your ready, not when the girls are showing up. And there's just something about having 90 naked girls walking around trying their best to entice you to the room. They know there's so much competition vying for your money that they have to perform. And if your truely lucky, you'll see these 90 girls on a day that only 40 guys are in the club at any time. Kiev can't beat this experience.
Minor differences between FKK's
[QUOTE=Breadman;1177419]For a 5 day trip I'd do one or the other, not both. Your spending way too much time getting from point A to point B without adding in a point C. Have you given World, Sharks, Atlantika or Mainhattan a try yet? It also sounds like your idea of taking a break from the fkk clubs is to spend more time traveling to another country. Its possible its the traveling, not the amount of sex, that is the cause of your exhaustion. I'd imagine not many fkk trips are weekend trips if your flying in from the US. And anytime I feel that I need a rest I can take a nap safely in any club. In Kiev you have to book ahead of time or head out for the hunt and return with the girls you've found and try to perform even if your exhausted. At the fkk clubs you decide when your ready, not when the girls are showing up. And there's just something about having 90 naked girls walking around trying their best to entice you to the room. They know there's so much competition vying for your money that they have to perform. And if your truely lucky, you'll see these 90 girls on a day that only 40 guys are in the club at any time. Kiev can't beat this experience.[/QUOTE]Hi Breadman.
Got your pm and responded.
I've been to world, oase and palace, but not the others you mention (Sharks, Atlantika or Mainhattan). Although there are differences between the three I visited, I didn't think that the differences made it desireable to keep going to all three. Is there something significant I am missing by not going yet to Sharks, Atlantika or Mainhattan? A much better line up, for example?
You raise here the issue of travel related exhaustion. Actually the three hour flight from frankfurt to Kiev is relatively painless to me. It's like flying ny to miami. But quite aside from exhaustion from lack of sufficient sleep, I was referring to "sexual" exhaustion caused by depletion of one's sexual bodily liquids due to multiple ejaculations per day, day after day, which can slow a guy down who is on an FKK tour stretching over more than several days.
In fact I get plenty of sleep in Kiev, and for the most part I'm on a vampire schedule, sleeping quite late into the day into the pm hours, and then eating and relaxing a bit, and beginning my girl activities in very late afternoon, or in the evening. Rio strip club opens at 8pm, incidentally.
So in Kiev, when I pull a girl out of Rio for a three hour session, I am not focussed on trying to get multiple pops within as short a time as possible as I would in an fkk in order to minimze my fkk costs, but rather in Kiev, having resigned myself to the three hour minimum at Rio per session, which is paid upfront anyways, I switch gears, and try to slow things down, and my goal is prolonging the length of the sexual activities to as long a period as I can. For example, I was quite happy with a session with this awesome Rio girl where the intercourse in various positions lasted for over two hours. That twenty something year old girl later said the next time I saw her that I was a sex god. Unfortunately, I knew the actual truth that I was very far from being anything of the sort, as it took me a full day to recuperate from my romp with her. But, dammit, if I have to pay for three hours, then I am going to give the girl a helluva ride for the three hours. LOL. Alternatively, if the girl is too beautiful and sexy and I get too turned on and can't control things to pace myself, and I pop earlier than I wanted, well, then there is still also time for a second pop too, more luxurious and lengthy than the first.
I have never been successful in falling asleep at an fkk where there are so many beautiful naked girls, no matter how tired I was, as my mind would simply not settle and allow me to relax enough to sleep. I can't sleep on an airplane either, unfortunately. So I lay on the couch at the fkk palace, for example, where there is a comfortable couch option, and rest / relax watching the hotties walk around. But I agree that the fkk is a tremendous sexually charged environment, which is why I didn't want to skip it and go straight to Kiev, and was determined to put in some decent fkk time.
I felt that the high cost in getting from USA to europe made it worthwhile to try to cover both fkk's and Kiev while I was in europe, and that this consideration outweighed the minor inconvenience and cost of the three hour flight between frankfurt and Kiev which I booked on ukraine int'l airlines rt for $257.
By the way, to address the comment of The Cane, I haven't beek to brazil yet, but it is definitely on my list.
LJ
NRW clubs near Cologne and Dusseldorf rates
[QUOTE=Henio; 1177457]If you go to NRW and visit f. Ex. GoldenTime and Living Room. 4*3 hour sessions will cost you €700 in most cases. Add to that 50€ club entrance for each day which will include all you can eat and drink (plus free beer). Add Acapulco to your itenary and there each 30 minutes will cost you 40€ and the entrance there is only 25€ if you arrive before 1 PM (€35 otherwise). I rate Acapulco on par with Oase and World.
The point I am making is that there are areas in Germany with much favorable pricing structure than the Hessen clubs and you should consider that when the budget is an issue. Sure, DUS airport is not a major airport like FRA, but it is easy to train, and even easier and cheaper to do a weekend rental and drive.[/QUOTE]Dear Henio.
I have long considered traveling from Frankfurt to the Cologne area to see the clubs in that area of Germany. But what has held me back thus far is the reports of much crowding and that they close earlier (at 2 am) than the frankfurt clubs which close at 4am.
Is the line up at those clubs you mention significantly better, and can you get a chance with girls you might like in view of the crowding of too many men?
What is the price per half hour at the clubs you mention in NRW?
Also, I didn't understand the exact calculation you were making for the 700 Euro. How many hours were you calculating to reach 700Euro? Is there some kind of discount for mutiple hours at work in your calculation? If you were trying to approximate the same type of four sessions I was describing with girls from Kiev strip club of three hours in length, and by what you wrote ("4*3") you meant 4 sessions of 3 hours each, then were you saying that a 3 hour session with one girl in the NRW clubs costs (700Euro divided by 4 equals) 175 Euro? 175 euros divided by three is 58. 33 Euro. Is that what an hour session costs in the NRW clubs you mention. 58Euro? That means a half hour session in those clubs costs 29 euro, which is a much lower price than the 50 euro charged in the frankfurt clubs. Am I understanding you correctly? Please explain. Thanks.
LJ