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Scams
Have been fortunate enough to visit Oase a few times recently, and before I take the time to write a full TR I thought I'd post a quick warning of sorts of a Francesa from Milan, Italy. 25yrs I think. Doesn't smile at all, very pushy to get you into the room, no smalltalk. I chose based on looks only. I didn't expect a 'great' session but what I got was just lousy. You're all probably familiar with the rising number of scamming for extras that should be inclusive (reading the Palace thread it seems to be prominent there) , well I had her attempt to charge me 50EUR extra for kissing, what is always a standard part of the service at Oase. The other upsells were fine and legal but this one in particular bothered me, as I never had it before. Taught me a lesson to just pick a girl based on body type (she had the most perfect ass though!). Oh, on completion, she reached me as I was still having my orgasm and forced me out! I half finished inside and half with my hand! Absolute disgrace. She couldn't wait to get the session over with and get paid. Yes, another tip request girl as I write below.
I was also annoyed at the constant asking for 'tips' by a lot of girls as I head downstairs to get money from my locker. Also had the attempted scam from a Moldavian couple that work together (the most distinctive one has frizzy blonde hair and a lot of blonde body hair, the other is just a good looking brunette) , with the promises of lesbian show before going into the room, then once in the room being asked for a total of 200EUR for this privilege. Yes. 50 each for the lesbo show, then another 50 each for the service. Declined again to have another very average session, and yes they wanted a tip too.
I'll talk about my disappointment with where FKK's seem to have headed since I last visited in my reports. Definitely not as good as they used to be.
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[QUOTE=Arctic;1185511]Also. I understand that some just stay until 05:00 in the morning?[/QUOTE]Yep. Done it myself a number of times. However I must say that FKK World is a much more comfy club to close, comfy couches and all. Best areas to sack out at Oase are the two chairs near the whirlpool or the three chairs in the sauna hut. Also be sure and check the closing time on the day you visit. It varies.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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[QUOTE=Erogenous;1185563]I was also annoyed at the constant asking for 'tips' by a lot of girls as I head downstairs to get money from my locker.[/QUOTE]Do you keep your money downstairs to avoid having the girls as you for tips? Do you know about the lockers right by the bar that's there to hold your wallet, passport etc? The lockers downstairs can easily get broken into, especially if guys see you keep going to a certain locker to get money, and that locker is hidden from the security camera's.
[QUOTE=Erogenous;1185563]Also had the attempted scam from a Moldavian couple that work together (the most distinctive one has frizzy blonde hair and a lot of blonde body hair, the other is just a good looking brunette) , with the promises of lesbian show before going into the room, then once in the room being asked for a total of 200EUR for this privilege. Yes. 50 each for the lesbo show, then another 50 each for the service. Declined again to have another very average session, and yes they wanted a tip too.[/QUOTE]Isn't 200 euro's per half hour the correct price for a lesbo show in a room? Take two girls in a room together and fuck them both, that's 50 each. Take two girls in the room, fuck them both and have them eat each other out, that's another 50 for each girl. Now if you took two girls in the room and just had them do a double blow job and fucked each of them without any lesbo interaction, that's just 50 each (100 total).
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1185601]Do you keep your money downstairs to avoid having the girls as you for tips? Do you know about the lockers right by the bar that's there to hold your wallet, passport etc? The lockers downstairs can easily get broken into, especially if guys see you keep going to a certain locker to get money, and that locker is hidden from the security camera's.[/QUOTE]*
If you go to Oase in a crowded day it's quite probable that the lockers near the bar are sold out. *
[QUOTE=Erogenous;1185563].'I'd post a quick warning of sorts of a Francesa from Milan, Italy.[/QUOTE]Francesca, awesome body, light brown hair or dark blonde, never smile. She's not italian, I'm italian and she's not, she is Romanian. *
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[QUOTE=Arctic;1185511]Thanks Dedalus that is good advice. I like the idea of showing up around 16:00. My thoughts were to do a Wednesday and then take a break on Thursday and return Friday for a repeat. That should give me a good idea of Oase at the slow and frenetic times? Also. I understand that some just stay until 05:00 in the morning?[/QUOTE]I know some British guys who stay until closing in the early morning hours. Why come in the morning by plane (low cost) , enjoy the day in Oase or another club until closing, and, instead of having a rest in the hotel, they take the first flight back. Bargain trip.
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I have a question on screening girls at Oase.
First of all, yes I have read the complete FKK FAQ and all but.
I would like the thoughts of the "veterans" of Oase on the use of cinema (zino) , pool area, etc to "screen" potential girls? Some public sex is allowed correct? Would it be acceptable to start a session with a girl in the cinema? Thinking about this, an argument can made that a girl might actually perform better in a public location because she knows other potential customers are watching her. Plus. There's the inescapable human tendency to NOT want to look lame while you're screwing with other people watching. I mean, sex is a pretty basic thing. And I can't imagine any girl wanting to look mechanical or disinterested in a session that's being viewed by other people.
Any thoughts on that? Anyone ever had a BAD session in the cinema?
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[QUOTE=Arctic; 1185649]I have a question on screening girls at Oase.
I would like the thoughts of the "veterans" of Oase on the use of cinema (zino) , pool area, etc to "screen" potential girls? Some public sex is allowed correct? Would it be acceptable to start a session with a girl in the cinema? Thinking about this, an argument can made that a girl might actually perform better in a public location because she knows other potential customers are watching her. Plus. There's the inescapable human tendency to NOT want to look lame while you're screwing with other people watching. I mean, sex is a pretty basic thing. And I can't imagine any girl wanting to look mechanical or disinterested in a session that's being viewed by other people.
Any thoughts on that? Anyone ever had a BAD session in the cinema?[/QUOTE]Public action, although much less prevalent than in the old days, is both allowed and encouraged. I actually remember Mauro (the owner) offering to pay for a guy's session if he did it at the front bar in front of everyone.
Most "public" action these days takes place in the Kino or, during the warmer seasons, in the outdoor loungers. Now and then you might see a session on the back couches in the main non-smoking area.
Your instincts are correct about a gal probably performing better in the Kino when there is an audience, but like most things, this is no absolute. Yeah, I've had some less than inspiring Kino sessions. Also some girls just don't like to do it in the open.
There's no hard-fast rule to girl-screening. Personally I tend to be wary of the girls who are constantly on the make and approaching every guy in sight. I'm also wary of tandems running around trying to sell threesomes. This usually is a sign that one of the girls is on the rag.
Your going to get approached and this is not a bad thing. I'd advise you to be patient, friendly and no matter how many girls U-turn down, keep smiling and don't avoid eye-contact. The girls hate it when guys look away. There are charming ways to say "no", and even though these are working girls, they are not immune to a bit of charm. You'll be assayed by pretty much every gal in the place within an hour-and-a-half of you hitting the floor.
In general my most successful FKK encounters happen when I make eye contact, get a good vibe and do the approaching myself.
If you see a gal who interests you, then watch how she interacts with other guys. Also pay attention to the valuables locker area next to the bar and observe how the payment process goes down between a Gent and a girl. One can learn quite a bit from this alone.
It's actually a fun process and a good test on how well one is a student of human moves. Also it's not the end of the world if you tap into a bad session. Happens to all of us. In fact, on my last visit to Oase I only had one good session out of three. Sometimes it's a crap-shoot.
Just be patient and observe. I have a hunch you'll get a feel for it quickly. Also be wary if a girl approaches you named Lucia or Bianca. Hit and run gals, all of them. I like brunette Bianca, but hardly anyone else does. The blonde version is cute, but worthless in the room.
Cheers,
Dedalus
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[QUOTE=Dedalus;1185662]Most "public" action these days takes place in the Kino or, during the warmer seasons, in the outdoor loungers. Now and then you might see a session on the back couches in the main non-smoking area.[/QUOTE]Actually I saw a guy humping your blonde Polish cinema-friend from behind on a towel right in the middle of the lawn last week. Later he had a threesome on the "Hochsitz" as the two girls denied his attempt to also fuck them in the middle of the lawn. There were max. 5 guys outside, so why so shy?
You can fuck everywhere you like, maybe not in the kitchen or the men's locker. There's an old guy who take a girl (usually Steffi) for public BBBJ all over the club, inside, outside, on the pole dance platform, in the middle of the club: Him standing, her kneeling in front of him, sucking his dick, moving on to a different spot after 5 minutes. To each his own.
HB
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[quote=arctic; 1185649]i have a question on screening girls at oase.
first of all, yes i have read the complete fkk faq and all but.
i would like the thoughts of the "veterans" of oase on the use of cinema (zino) , pool area, etc to "screen" potential girls? some public sex is allowed correct? would it be acceptable to start a session with a girl in the cinema? thinking about this, an argument can made that a girl might actually perform better in a public location because she knows other potential customers are watching her. plus. there's the inescapable human tendency to not want to look lame while you're screwing with other people watching. i mean, sex is a pretty basic thing. and i can't imagine any girl wanting to look mechanical or disinterested in a session that's being viewed by other people.
any thoughts on that? anyone ever had a bad session in the cinema?[/quote]going to the cinema is among other things a quick way of getting into contact with those girls who don't approach guys, and may not otherwise have hit your radar. almost all girls drift in regularly to check their luck. the problem can be extracting yourself when you don't want a session with the girl who drapes herself over you on the sofa and immediately dives under your towel. i usually stand a while at the back, where i can make a quick decision if i'm at all interested, and prevaricate or even retreat if necessary if i'm not. that for me makes social-psychological sense (you keep the initiative) , and it tends to work quite well. it's a great place to watch human behaviour as well. like dedalus, i'm watching the money lockers too. (last time i was there, a guy was so "pleased" with his session that he put eur 50 on the floor and walked away! even the most obtuse around about got that message)
i have rarely had a poor session in the kino. outside in the open it can be a bit uncomfortable on the plastic beach furniture, so i avoid that.
by the pool area outside, the only real advantage i find is that the light tends to be better. otherwise all the other rules apply, good place to watch. outside there is certainly regular approaching, fooling around and full sessions are quite common.
you're certainly right to give this some thought. let us know how you get on, with all the gory details.
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[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1185771]Actually I saw a guy humping your blonde Polish cinema-friend from behind on a towel right in the middle of the lawn last week.
HB[/QUOTE]Hehehe. My blonde, Polish cinema-friend has some serious game when it comes to the sexual arts, as I noticed that you witnessed. ;)
Cheers,
Dedalus
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[QUOTE=Breadman; 1185601]Do you keep your money downstairs to avoid having the girls as you for tips? Do you know about the lockers right by the bar that's there to hold your wallet, passport etc? The lockers downstairs can easily get broken into, especially if guys see you keep going to a certain locker to get money, and that locker is hidden from the security camera's.
Isn't 200 euro's per half hour the correct price for a lesbo show in a room? Take two girls in a room together and fuck them both, that's 50 each. Take two girls in the room, fuck them both and have them eat each other out, that's another 50 for each girl. Now if you took two girls in the room and just had them do a double blow job and fucked each of them without any lesbo interaction, that's just 50 each (100 total).[/QUOTE]I am shocked at girls asking for tips as that never happened to me, even at Palace. However, my contribution is, that last time I was quoted for lesby show in the room it was a straight 50.
Now, if you go with georgina at world, my American friend tells me, she can't keep her hands off the other girl and does it anyway.
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[QUOTE=Mike De H;1185891]However, my contribution is, that last time I was quoted for lesby show in the room it was a straight 50.[/QUOTE]Have you ever actually paid just 50 euro's for a lesbian show or was this just quoted to you outside the room? 25 each just doesn't seem right when all other extra's are 50.
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1185896]Have you ever actually paid just 50 euro's for a lesbian show or was this just quoted to you outside the room? 25 each just doesn't seem right when all other extra's are 50.[/QUOTE]That was quoted to me but did not go for it, my friend did though. It was 50
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[QUOTE=Arctic;1185649]I have a question on screening girls at Oase.
First of all, yes I have read the complete FKK FAQ and all but.
I would like the thoughts of the "veterans" of Oase on the use of cinema (zino) , pool area, etc to "screen" potential girls? Some public sex is allowed correct? Would it be acceptable to start a session with a girl in the cinema? Thinking about this, an argument can made that a girl might actually perform better in a public location because she knows other potential customers are watching her. Plus. There's the inescapable human tendency to NOT want to look lame while you're screwing with other people watching. I mean, sex is a pretty basic thing. And I can't imagine any girl wanting to look mechanical or disinterested in a session that's being viewed by other people.
Any thoughts on that? Anyone ever had a BAD session in the cinema?[/QUOTE]
I've had one visitor tell me that it's a good idea, for exactly the reasons that you've stated. I personally don't use this method much because the girls visiting the kino don't seem to be much for conversation and I usually prefer to talk with a girl extensively before taking her to the room.
I've not had a [i]bad[/i] session but I have had mediocre ones. This was probably because a.) it was just her and me, so she didn't need to work to impress anyone, b.) we were doing it doggy-style & reverse cowgirl which looks fun but due to lack of extensive contact & ability to look her in the eye I'm not personally fond of (YMMV), or c.) I didn't clarify that I wanted the [i]entire[/i] session in the kino and her enthusiasm plummeted once we went into the room.
So, I suppose if you address all of these issues with your choice you might very well have a fun time.
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[QUOTE=Tedesco;1185619]I know some British guys who stay until closing in the early morning hours. Why come in the morning by plane (low cost) , enjoy the day in Oase or another club until closing, and, instead of having a rest in the hotel, they take the first flight back. Bargain trip.[/QUOTE]This is what I did my last day in Germany on a trip- scotched the hotel room, left at club closing, snoozed in the First Class Terminal on the way home and on the plane.
Plans for my next trip are similar (though it will have to be the Senator lounge- flying Air Canada business class home, not Lufthansa First). It will be the night of the 1st of January (New Year's) , and morning of the 2nd (I know it will be slow, but it was either then or not at all- coming home from Hong Kong and Bangkok).