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[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2059698]I have the same concern considering I have a trip to Germany planned next month but I've been following a lot of reports and according to numerous reports nothing has changed, the girls seem to ignore the law. But this guy HB is on every thread trying to discourage others from sharing information regarding BBBJ. So, don't pay him any mind. He's obviously selfish and very misleading.[/QUOTE]When I first embarked on our hobby in the 1970's BBFS was the norm and I had many years of such sessions. Then around the mid 1980's things changed and some girls offered while others did not. Eventually, no girls offered. Now we have a law that says BBBJ is illegal, it is reported that some girls still provide it while others do not, I believe that the time when all girls would not provide it will be sooner rather than later. I am heart broken about this but I have made up my mind to accept it the same way I accepted the end of working girls providing BBFS.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2059720]Bareback sex and BBBJ are illegal and prosecuted to ask for clients in Germany, but a girl ... only a woman who want to please you for free for some services she decides to provide to you.[/QUOTE]Sorry to burst your bubble but that won't hold up in court. She's a prostitute. You're a client. So CBJ and CFS is legal, anything else isn't.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2059868]Sorry to burst your bubble but that won't hold up in court. She's a prostitute. You're a client. So CBJ and CFS is legal, anything else isn't.[/QUOTE]But if the prostitute wants to please her client in private in room, because she wants to have him as regular, and if the client is not so stupid to claim about everywhere, then who will know and care?
I agree better not to be caught by Polizei which ask to pay right now. I experienced on autobahns.
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Nothing has changed?
[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2059698]I have the same concern considering I have a trip to Germany planned next month but I've been following a lot of reports and according to numerous reports nothing has changed, the girls seem to ignore the law. But this guy HB is on every thread trying to discourage others from sharing information regarding BBBJ. So, don't pay him any mind. He's obviously selfish and very misleading.[/QUOTE]Please do not delude yourselves guys. EVERYTHING has changed, don't just look at a few posts where during the transition period some guys managed to get a BBBJ. You may get it, you may also end up in a jail cell (and Germany does not work on "common law" - look it up).
I managed to get it (I was lucky) and one girl had an "accident" where it slipped off. That's two girls out of dozens interviewed. My advice is to be very careful. Accept reality, no matter how harsh.
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The big difference is that you can catch HIV from BBFS but you can't catch HIV from BBBJ.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2059866]When I first embarked on our hobby in the 1970's BBFS was the norm and I had many years of such sessions. Then around the mid 1980's things changed and some girls offered while others did not. Eventually, no girls offered. Now we have a law that says BBBJ is illegal, it is reported that some girls still provide it while others do not, I believe that the time when all girls would not provide it will be sooner rather than later. I am heart broken about this but I have made up my mind to accept it the same way I accepted the end of working girls providing BBFS.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2059698]But this guy HB is on every thread trying to discourage others from sharing information. So, don't pay him any mind. He's obviously selfish and very misleading.[/QUOTE]The panic and hysteria on German ISG at the moment is quite amusing. This panic and hysteria quite simply does not reflect the reality on the ground.
Recent posts from actual visitors on the ground this month have made quite clear what the current state of affairs is. Despite these numerous posts setting forth the current state of affairs, posters insist on posting the same panicked hysteria.
It's a pure waste of bandwidth for people who have NOT visited the club recently this month to be posting their hysterical fears that the world is ending when those posts fail to reflect the reality on the ground.
HB is right in that if you are NOT there on the ground right now, you have no business posting misinformation. Your crystal ball conjectures about possible futures are not useful or helpful in any way.
In any case, the current state of affairs is quite clear. No need to continue posting misinformation in this thread wasting space.
If you DO have actual field observations to share, then feel free to share actual information as I have in my prior reports -- But remember, there is no need to be so explicit in your reports about details that could bring unwanted attention on our good clubs. Remember that it is possible to share field information in ways that everyone understands, yet which is not so explicit.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2059912]The panic and hysteria on German ISG at the moment is quite amusing. This panic and hysteria quite simply does not reflect the reality on the ground.
Recent posts from actual visitors on the ground this month have made quite clear what the current state of affairs is. Despite these numerous posts setting forth the current state of affairs, posters insist on posting the same panicked hysteria.
It's a pure waste of bandwidth for people who have NOT visited the club recently this month to be posting their hysterical fears that the world is ending when those posts fail to reflect the reality on the ground.
HB is right in that if you are NOT there on the ground right now, you have no business posting misinformation. Your crystal ball conjectures about possible futures are not useful or helpful in any way.
In any case, the current state of affairs is quite clear. No need to continue posting misinformation in this thread wasting space.
If you DO have actual field observations to share, then feel free to share actual information as I have in my prior reports -- But remember, there is no need to be so explicit in your reports about details that could bring unwanted attention on our good clubs. Remember that it is possible to share field information in ways that everyone understands, yet which is not so explicit.[/QUOTE]I was under the impression that this forum exists solely to exchange information regarding mongering experiences informing others and being informed in return. If that's not the case then what's the point of this forum. As far as me speaking based on others reports, you have a point! However, I just passed on information I received from what I consider to be a reliable source, ISG. There are those of us who totally will plan based on these reports and also change plans based on these reports. I understand HB's caution but I don't believe these reports will reveal any information the authorities don't already know. Think about it! Prostitution is totally illegal in places like the Philippines and there are plenty reports regarding mongers experiences in the Philippines on this forum and many others.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;2059813]Actually it is the opposite. It will ensure that BBBJ will be available for a broader audience. That's selfish? Don't think so. But that seems to be impossible to understand.
HB.[/QUOTE]I totally understand and I respect your effort. But to some of us no BBBJ is a total deal breaker. I was this close to changing my flight elsewhere until I saw a few positive post regarding BBBJ.
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The risk is miniscule
[QUOTE=DrPoon;2059896]The big difference is that you can catch HIV from BBFS but you can't catch HIV from BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Close to zero.
It is almost zero (or what physicians call statistically insignificant).
The most risky thing one can do is have condomless anal sex with a HIV positive person.
Other than that the rest is pure fear mongering.
[URL]https://www.google.de/search?q=risk[/URL]+of+hiv+transmission+heterosexual&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=ltVnWcPmGJCy0 gW6 rpngAg.
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In any case, the current state of affairs is quite clear. [/QUOTE]I am seeing reports about CBJ, which were non-existent before. Before July 1st, BBBJ was guaranteed in the 30 minute session for a mere 50 EUR. Can a newbie first-timer still walk into a club and get three BBBJ from the first three WGs he chooses to approach on a 150 EUR budget?
Not someone recognized and known to spend large amounts. Or someone like me who might attend a single club 20+ day a year. Or someone like me who probably does 80% of my sessions with the same 20 WGs.
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2059499]What is the ratio currently? How many girls carry fake boobs in Oase? Plenty? Or some selected? During my last 4 visits to Oase I was yet to come across a girl who had blown up tits! LOL![/QUOTE]Yes plenty, maybe 20%.
Just because you did not cum over their tits, LOL, does not mean they were not enhanced. Some have appalling shape very bad tits jobs. Some are okay. You might want to get your eyes tested.
Very simply, if the upper curve surface of the tit down to the nipple is decidedly convex, then they are fake. Real tits are concave curved down to the nipple and convex underneath, except in a few freak teenagers with as yet zero sag.
True Oase does have less fake tit jobs than some other places like Silicone Palace (over 50% there).
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[QUOTE=Jooeey;2058247]What kind of up-selling does still exists? Extras for DFK and DATY? In 30 Mins session are the girls ok with DFK and DATY ? I know CIM is extras so.[/QUOTE]Hi, sorry for late reply. I had four sessions in two days, all the girls asked 50 Euro extra for DFK, I politely declined. DATY, I have been asked for extra but I am not into it for a while so I declined also, but I guess you might receive both services for free of charge, if you are lucky enough or if you smartly choose the right girl. Girl selection is crucial. Those services were included in the price of 50 Euro once upon a time in Oase.
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[QUOTE=Creature2;2060349]Those services were included in the price of 50 Euro once upon a time in Oase.[/QUOTE]Remember when Oase was a 'service' club?
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2060420]Remember when Oase was a 'service' club?[/QUOTE]Yes but it is the past, let us live in the present life, nostalgia leads nowhere.
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[QUOTE=DrPoon;2059896]The big difference is that you can catch HIV from BBFS but you can't catch HIV from BBBJ.[/QUOTE]WRONG. HIV positive male with high viral load ejaculates down the throat of WH with a raging pharyngitis or tonsillitis (bacterial or viral sore throat) whose pharynx is loaded with inflammatory cells could catch HIV. HIV virus preferentially infects inflammatory cells like lymphocytes / macropages. Or a WG who flosses or brushes too much, or who bit her tongue, or who has necrotizing papillitis of the gums- that's when it feels good when you probe between your teeth to cause pain.
Prof Dr Beffen.