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It is probably fair to say that no man pays to take a girl that he personally thinks is visually unattractive.
When people say they put service and other factors above looks, it probably means they have a wide range of looks that they find appealing and some girls that they find attractive enough to fuck may not be the top optics for many other men.
Many men probably also place more value on service from a specific girl after doing a room once or a few times. If a girl is not your top optic, you may not think highly of her service just because she has a good reputation for service or because someone you trust recommended to you. But you try her once, find her service to be really good, next time it will be easier to take her based on service alone even if her looks are your optimal.
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Best fkks in Germany?
Helo all,
I am a regular in spain and morocco well experienced. I never been to Germany as I like day life in spain more. I wish to visit fkks please which are best quality girls in all fkks in Germany and how do you compare cologne and dusseldorf to frankfurt in terms of beauty girls please? Welcome to travel together to Morocco for real gems and very low prices as I speak language which is a high plus.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2293735]I am one of those who esteem attitude above looks. I do not spend a lot of time looking for 9's or 10's, great beauty among providers just does not exist, its an illusion, you're not going to find a Candice Swanepoel in FKKs or among escorts. I am happy with an average looker with a great attitude. An above average looker with a good attitude is a bonus. I avoid above average lookers with known bad behavior. In terms of looks I avoid all obese women who generally obviously have good attitudes. There are punters who love them, to each his own.[/QUOTE]I don't like when not attractive girls for me, touch me, even they can be top performer, I love beauty, I m only attracted by pretty girls but also with elegance which give them charm. I run away from prostutute behavior, from girls who sell grocery sex, I like those who never speak about money, only time spent in room talk at lockers.
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Hi Carlo.
I have been visiting Germany for over 30 years. My first "Sauna Club" was the old Sudfass in Frankfurt.
Here is a link to a post my last time in FRA. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1990203[/URL]#post1990203.
The town of Friedrichsdorf with Oase used to be my favourite place in the world. I would always lay over at least one day (or more!) in FRA to go to Oase FKK and to the local publis sauna facility called Taunus Terme where you could take many sauna and see naked civillian girls. But it is NOT a sex club.
The last few years I have gone to Oase I found the leadership of the company to be losing interest in their business. The girls are the same ones for too long, are too sharky, too greedy and don't have a positive customer service attitude in my opinion. I went last year and was not impressed and left without even seeing a girl. It was a Sunday afternoon so maybe that was why the line up was not good. I might go back next time I go to FRA just so I can go to Taunus Terme fore relaxation and voyeurism! Lot's of natural bushy pussies walking around!
My favourite place is now Sharks in Darmstadt. I find there are more VERY good looking girls there compared to the other good FRA FKK clubs like Mainhatten and World. I don;'t care about averages, just interested in the hottest looking girls.
I have not gone to NRW clubs as it is not convenient for me to travel to.
Hope this helps.
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[QUOTE=RubMeister100;2294384]Hi Carlo.
I have been visiting Germany for over 30 years. My first "Sauna Club" was the old Sudfass in Frankfurt.
Here is a link to a post my last time in FRA. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1990203[/URL]#post1990203.
The town of Friedrichsdorf with Oase used to be my favourite place in the world. I would always lay over at least one day (or more!) in FRA to go to Oase FKK and to the local publis sauna facility called Taunus Terme where you could take many sauna and see naked civillian girls. But it is NOT a sex club.
The last few years I have gone to Oase I found the leadership of the company to be losing interest in their business. The girls are the same ones for too long, are too sharky, too greedy and don't have a positive customer service attitude in my opinion. I went last year and was not impressed and left without even seeing a girl. It was a Sunday afternoon so maybe that was why the line up was not good. I might go back next time I go to FRA just so I can go to Taunus Terme fore relaxation and voyeurism! Lot's of natural bushy pussies walking around!
My favourite place is now Sharks in Darmstadt. I find there are more VERY good looking girls there compared to the other good FRA FKK clubs like Mainhatten and World. I don;'t care about averages, just interested in the hottest looking girls.
I have not gone to NRW clubs as it is not convenient for me to travel to.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I can only agree with you, Shark has the best looking girls, I don t care about service, I prefer Titus thermen with the nice outside garden.
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[QUOTE=Nympholepsy;2294011]Marta goes straight to the top of my list even I have a couple of other regular excellent girls. Some other beauties to choose from.[/QUOTE]What a bad misprint that was. Marta goes to ignore list. Should have been Nellie on top of my repeat list, yet still have 3 excellent regular girls there at Oase, when they attend. I don't have correct post facility. "C-cups" to "D-cups" for Nellie. Nellie was faultless for me, other than slight smokers breathe.
There are plenty of old girls from years ago, some very good, some lousy. I already know several of the seemingly dick scared ones whose legs seize up instead of relax. There are also of newer very pretty girls. I always found more pretty girls at Oase than at Sharks, but personal tastes vary. I did not lack for choices of pretty girls I would have liked to tried, had I endless money and energy. Was Saturday evening though, probably the best time. Great party dancing atmosphere.
There was a new Latin girl with extremely good tits (natural I trust), quite pretty, and a big booty (not quite a slim girl). A cut well above some past ugly Latinos. The Perfectionist (a buddy) would be sure to like her.
Sharks may have more girls, but more very pretty girls?, I think not. So many with good bodies but ordinary faces at Sharks. Very few actually very pretty to my taste. At Oase good girls exist and bad girls exist. Not the best venue if you want to spend just 50. There are several regular German customers that I see there nearly every time. Some almost live there (at least on Saturdays). If Oase only had bad girls, they would not keep coming. It is just about sussing out who are the good girls. I can even ask some German regulars what they know about potential girls. They are bound to have tried most of the pretty ones. Or just watch which girls they take. Notice which girls have none of the regular customers. Decision in a hurry can be bad one. Marta was rushed decision and I paid the penalty.
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[QUOTE=RubMeister100;2294384]Hi Carlo.
I have been visiting Germany for over 30 years. My first "Sauna Club" was the old Sudfass in Frankfurt.
Here is a link to a post my last time in FRA. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1089-General-Info&p=1990203[/URL]#post1990203.
The town of Friedrichsdorf with Oase used to be my favourite place in the world. I would always lay over at least one day (or more!) in FRA to go to Oase FKK and to the local publis sauna facility called Taunus Terme where you could take many sauna and see naked civillian girls. But it is NOT a sex club.
The last few years I have gone to Oase I found the leadership of the company to be losing interest in their business. The girls are the same ones for too long, are too sharky, too greedy and don't have a positive customer service attitude in my opinion. I went last year and was not impressed and left without even seeing a girl. It was a Sunday afternoon so maybe that was why the line up was not good. I might go back next time I go to FRA just so I can go to Taunus Terme fore relaxation and voyeurism! Lot's of natural bushy pussies walking around!
My favourite place is now Sharks in Darmstadt. I find there are more VERY good looking girls there compared to the other good FRA FKK clubs like Mainhatten and World. I don;'t care about averages, just interested in the hottest looking girls.
I have not gone to NRW clubs as it is not convenient for me to travel to.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I used to frequent naturist resorts in the US in the 80's (Paradise Lakes in Tampa was my favorite), I occasionally got an unabashed woody and actually picked up girls. Same at Haulover beach as recently as 15 years ago. I've been tempted to visit a German sauna but never done so; thoughts on picking up a civilian there.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2294714]I used to frequent naturist resorts in the US in the 80's (Paradise Lakes in Tampa was my favorite), I occasionally got an unabashed woody and actually picked up girls. Same at Haulover beach as recently as 15 years ago. I've been tempted to visit a German sauna but never done so; thoughts on picking up a civilian there.[/QUOTE]Ha. A man after my own heart!
I visited Haulover more recently, perhaps 2 years ago. Generally pretty dead now. A couple of dozen middle aged people, perhaps 2/3 of them men. Not many young hot chicks to choose from. A few sleazy voyeurs that did not want to get naked, fully dressed and very obviously staring at the naked ones. Those need to be kicked out rudely.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2294714]I used to frequent naturist resorts in the US in the 80's (Paradise Lakes in Tampa was my favorite), I occasionally got an unabashed woody and actually picked up girls. Same at Haulover beach as recently as 15 years ago. I've been tempted to visit a German sauna but never done so; thoughts on picking up a civilian there.[/QUOTE]What are the good naturist spots in the US today? I'the like to visit some back home as well. It's something I have been dreaming of doing while I was committed. Now that I am free and single, want to explore it.
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[QUOTE=CaneUppHosAss;2294734]Ha. A man after my own heart!
I visited Haulover more recently, perhaps 2 years ago. Generally pretty dead now. A couple of dozen middle aged people, perhaps 2/3 of them men. Not many young hot chicks to choose from. A few sleazy voyeurs that did not want to get naked, fully dressed and very obviously staring at the naked ones. Those need to be kicked out rudely.[/QUOTE]Wow, has it declined so? When I used to go in the early 2000's there used to be thousands on a weekend with many hot girls. The first broad I sessioned from there looked at my johnson and remarked almost inaudibly on what she thought of it. She was in her 40's, LOL. After visiting Cap D'agde in southern France in 2005 I stopped going to American naturist spots. My last visit to Cap D'Agde was in 2008. Any true naturist lover must visit Cap D'Agde and would never think of going to US nudist resorts which are very lame in comparison. Now virtually all my seminal fluid is expended through mongering thanks to Oase, Sharks, SA, SEA, et al.
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Currently, the situation as far as I see it regarding Sharks vs Oase:
Oase may have more beauties consistently there. Although Sharks has throughout two weeks, or a month equally many beauties. They are just more part timers.
But even in a day to day basis, Sharks can compete with their say top 5 girls. Because as soon as you remove the crazy upsellers, or bad attitudes at Oase, you are basically left with just about 5 beauties on that level also. So it is a dead even. Plus it is less of a risk what you find in the room once you get there at Sharks.
But also a few girls at sharks does light upselling. So it is not perfect. It is just less than at Oase. However, if you have many days and lots of time. Time to get to know Oase and all the girls, you will have equal amounts of fun. But it will take some trying and failing while getting there.
As for diversity, they compliment each other. But to me, I would go 2 days at Sharks, and 1 day at Oase. Because the mind games at Oase can tire me out a bit. At Sharks, the less mindgames going on is more relaxing.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2295118]Wow, has it declined so? When I used to go in the early 2000's there used to be thousands on a weekend with many hot girls. The first broad I sessioned from there looked at my johnson and remarked almost inaudibly on what she thought of it. She was in her 40's, LOL. After visiting Cap D'agde in southern France in 2005 I stopped going to American naturist spots. My last visit to Cap D'Agde was in 2008. Any true naturist lover must visit Cap D'Agde and would never think of going to US nudist resorts which are very lame in comparison. Now virtually all my seminal fluid is expended through mongering thanks to Oase, Sharks, SA, SEA, et al.[/QUOTE]You my dear Sir have at least enjoyed a sample of the good old days. I need to clarify that "chicks to choose from" should not imply I had sex with any of them. Just the ones present, that's all. Who knows, perhaps I had the bad luck of a hot afternoon and weak attendance? It was a June day, already quite hot for SoFL. I went straight from a business meet downtown, still in my business attire, stripped down and lay on a towel I had "borrowed" from my hotel. After an hour and half of boring hot sun, I packed up and left.
There was a couple who tried beach sex a couple of years ago in FL and I remember reading that they were caught in the act, prosecuted to more than the fullest extent of law and given a stiff jail sentence. All for doing what comes naturally. These are the kinds of stupidity that give ammunition to those that drum up vilification about America the sex prison.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2293735]I am one of those who esteem attitude above looks. I do not spend a lot of time looking for 9's or 10's, great beauty among providers just does not exist, its an illusion, you're not going to find a Candice Swanepoel in FKKs or among escorts. I am happy with an average looker with a great attitude. An above average looker with a good attitude is a bonus. I avoid above average lookers with known bad behavior. In terms of looks I avoid all obese women who generally obviously have good attitudes. There are punters who love them, to each his own.[/QUOTE]If you prefer attitude above looks, then you have the same preferences as me.
Avoid the Frankfurt-clubs.
I would recommend the clubs in Duesseldorf.
Service and attitude among girls are significantly higher than in Frankfurt-area.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2295118]Wow, has it declined so? When I used to go in the early 2000's there used to be thousands on a weekend with many hot girls. The first broad I sessioned from there looked at my johnson and remarked almost inaudibly on what she thought of it. She was in her 40's, LOL. After visiting Cap D'agde in southern France in 2005 I stopped going to American naturist spots. My last visit to Cap D'Agde was in 2008. Any true naturist lover must visit Cap D'Agde and would never think of going to US nudist resorts which are very lame in comparison. Now virtually all my seminal fluid is expended through mongering thanks to Oase, Sharks, SA, SEA, et al.[/QUOTE]I'm French, I spent for nearly 20 years holidays in cote d'Azur, but never visited cap d'Agde, then I missed Clara Morgane.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2295153]Currently, the situation as far as I see it regarding Sharks vs Oase:
But to me, I would go 2 days at Sharks, and 1 day at Oase. Because the mind games at Oase can tire me out a bit. At Sharks, the less mindgames going on is more relaxing.[/QUOTE]Very useful post and interesting analysis. If I had three days I'the do one at each of these and based on my last visit definitely one at Mainhattan. Good options in November / December.