[QUOTE=HighRevver;2153248]I usually think I'm the only ABC there but seems like there are more of us around than I thought! Maybe I'll start to mingle after my sessions too hah.[/QUOTE]There are tons of ABC there. Start mingling, it is fun.
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[QUOTE=HighRevver;2153248]I usually think I'm the only ABC there but seems like there are more of us around than I thought! Maybe I'll start to mingle after my sessions too hah.[/QUOTE]There are tons of ABC there. Start mingling, it is fun.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152504]I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty.
Adele we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!
Carla Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing.[/QUOTE]Yes Badin, Carla jumped to me very angry. Once more, after Madi World, Raïssa World, Megan Sharks, Kate, Sandi and Madeleine at GT, some guys need so much to tell my writings to girls, some even change my meaning to bullshit girls. About Carla, my meaning was not changed, I m not hypocrite, but she has new look now, compare to my room with her on June 2014 when I tried most of the beauties, but I selected Maria Platinum for only favorite on July 2014 , and Ina. Lat later. About Adele, I had really better to enjoy in room with her and I didn't need massage, for our 3 rooms, rather than telling her about other members. My most enjoyable was our second room in late night on our first day when she started to smile after my room with Vera 1 week ago. On this Thursday, she lost her smile, but she knows how I behave with her for our time. No problem, many other girls, Stephani, came because it was slow business, but I preferred to save my money, at this moment I didn't know yet, but I was so right, for my top Russian escort returning after 3 years. What a Russian woman now, volcano under ice. We will meet many times during her tour, before going to free ride.
So my bank can only thank this talkative little guy to help me to save money. Now some will know why I don't name anymore my top girls, naming them my Eves. Top of the top was a German guy at Living Room sending messages to my Eve who was sleeping in Brasov, to tell her my night with Daria when my Eve was away. Fortunately, most of my regular who know my behavior, trust me more than bullshits.
Really land of bullshits and jealousy.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152504]I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.
[B]Adele[/B] we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!
[B]Anna[/B] I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.
[B]Carla[/B] Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty..[/QUOTE]Adele gave good massage? That is new to me. I will ask her when I come next time.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2152675] Not sure about the use of word "crave": it is just nice to get on well with a person (and hopefully as a result get better service). This is not the same as obsession, Golem Guys, or mistaking a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. [/QUOTE]This is an interesting paper on emotional labor and sex workers:
[URL]https://scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6351&context=etd[/URL]
The paper describes the cultivation of "comfortable feeling" which may be roughly equivalent to what you describe as "getting on well". Meeting at WG's home. Meeting at client's home. Unpaid time spent dining, etc.
The paper also goes into counterfeit intimacy, which may be so convincing it could lead a monger to mistake a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. The paper distinguishes between two types of emotional labor (surface acting and deep acting): "Baby knew that in order to sustain regular customers like Philip. Men who wanted intimacy and the feeling of being special. She had to give them the illusion of mutuality. To that end, she gave Philip her pager number and her supposed real name and details about her outside life, to make it seem as if she had begun letting down her guard" (p. 126). A telling example of deep acting by a prostitute is the case of the prostitute who falls in love with a client.
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Really land of bullshits and jealousy.[/QUOTE]And self delusion too!
[QUOTE=DaWong949;2153310]There are tons of ABC there. Start mingling, it is fun.[/QUOTE]Might also be fun to reach outside of your comfort zone and mingle with Caucasians, Turkish, and few black guys. Just a suggestion.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2153385]This is an interesting paper on emotional labor and sex workers:
[URL]https://scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6351&context=etd[/URL]
The paper describes the cultivation of "comfortable feeling" which may be roughly equivalent to what you describe as "getting on well". Meeting at WG's home. Meeting at client's home. Unpaid time spent dining, etc.
The paper also goes into counterfeit intimacy, which may be so convincing it could lead a monger to mistake a commercial relationship with a non-commercial one. The paper distinguishes between two types of emotional labor (surface acting and deep acting): "Baby knew that in order to sustain regular customers like Philip. Men who wanted intimacy and the feeling of being special. She had to give them the illusion of mutuality. To that end, she gave Philip her pager number and her supposed real name and details about her outside life, to make it seem as if she had begun letting down her guard" (p. 126). A telling example of deep acting by a prostitute is the case of the prostitute who falls in love with a client.[/QUOTE]Message, be careful playing with fire? Constant self check is a must. And never give more than you're willing to give to a civilian girl.
[QUOTE=Takedown;2153475]Might also be fun to reach outside of your comfort zone and mingle with Caucasians, Turkish, and few black guys. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]I don't think he meant it that way. I think the way I phrased my reply made his reply seem like he and I only were willing to mingle with fellow Asians. I actually gave a Middle Eastern guy a ride from Sharks to downtown last time I was there a couple of weeks ago and chatted up a couple of Americans too from LA. Without giving too much away in a public space, I come from an extremely diverse background where I literally didn't have a Caucasian friend until in my teens due to circumstances.
Anyways, let's not stray too far off of what we're all here to talk about, the land where we all get to pretend were Hank Moody We have enough tension as is back at home!
Made a quick visit last Sunday. Good LU that improved more around 5. Just checked into the Mercure and heading back this evening and all day tomorrow. Although it can be overwhelming with the extra interest when it is slow, it's great not to have to wait on or chase the hottest ones.
[QUOTE=HighRevver;2153486]I don't think he meant it that way. I think the way I phrased my reply made his reply seem like he and I only were willing to mingle with fellow Asians. I actually gave a Middle Eastern guy a ride from Sharks to downtown last time I was there a couple of weeks ago and chatted up a couple of Americans too from LA. Without giving too much away in a public space, I come from an extremely diverse background where I literally didn't have a Caucasian friend until in my teens due to circumstances.
Anyways, let's not stray too far off of what we're all here to talk about, the land where we all get to pretend were Hank Moody We have enough tension as is back at home![/QUOTE]Highrevver is right. I mingle with whoever I feel comfortable with when I am in the club no matter if they are Caucasian, black or Asian. On my very last trip. I even met and talked to our famous Siri.
We had nice chat from girls to sports, skiing. To be honest, the time between session can be boring if you don't have someone to talk to. I like to explore different culture, travel ideas. Different background people will give you totally different picture then you already have.
I met a old Iranian guy. He told me that he did not know FKK at all. His son got him a surprise party by flying him to Oase from Tiran. I sure like those kind of surprise party from my kids. But I just know that will be impossible bearing the culture we have.
You can find a lot of interesting people if you reach out.
[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2152504]I was in Oase last Monday. Wow, it was so empty. I don't think I see more than 10 guests in the common area at any given point. Met up with another senior member. As you can imagine, I got attacked, in a good way, like crazy. All the girls have been saying that business has been very slow for them, same as the girls at Sharks. It's good for us as all the girls were available but I felt so bad for them sitting around having no room.
[B]Adele[/B] we go way back and she is one of my favorite at Oase. I always have fun in the room with her. She gave a very good massage!
[B]Anna[/B] I am becoming a good friend with her. She is a nice girl. Too bad she got a fever on her BD this past Sunday.
[B]Carla[/B] Adele's roommate, no need to say much, her service is amazing. Siri, please note that they know who you are and she will get with you when she sees you about calling her a frog face, LOL. I find her to be pretty.
[B]Lara[/B] wow, a room with her has been out of this world. I can only put the number of girls in one hand that fits this category and she is one of them. Once she gets to know you, she is a great girl.
A few girls were taking a day off since it was also a slow Sunday. They figured Monday would be bad and it was. Vicky is also back, per Anna, but I didn't get to see her.[/QUOTE]Not a surprise for me, Oase and Shark have lost a lot of regular clients like me, I completely stopped to visit both clubs and as long the management will not take the control of the girls.
I will not return, I also blacklisted Palace and mainhatan and I hope that many guys are doing the same.
I don't have a lot of time for this anymore, but I'll respond to a couple things quickly.
It's been about a year since my last trip to Germany. Usually I go 2 or 3 times a year.
But a lot of what I have to say is based on my own experience actually running a prostitution discussion board. There are always guys who think public discussion is bad. And they always make the boards worse.
Think of it this way. If Consumer Reports went out of business who would benefit the most? Certainly not consumers. And not the companies with the best products. It would be the companies with bad products who benefit.
So if prostitution boards went away who would benefit? Those who once posted? Those who once read? FKK's with great girls who give great service? No. The ripoff places or places with poor services would benefit the most.
Those who want boards to not report on this or that are, in a sense, advocating the board *partially* go away. So when boards don't give the full picture, and don't report whether this or that is available, who benefits? Not us, that's for sure. And, I would argue, not the good clubs or the full-service providers.
This is what I meant when I said not reporting on AO will limit the supply of AO. I don't mean that in the strict economic sense. I just mean AO will be harder to find. That's why there are these boards in the first place, right? To make it easier to find what you want.
And what do you expect will happen when X is harder to find? It will be more expensive if and when you find it.
(I actually strongly support moving this out of the FKK Oase thread. Please continue if you must in the General thread.).
I went to Sharks today. The lineup was disappointing. Where are all the 9+ girls?
Theory that may have even been practical in one instance may and often do not translate directly in other instances. Especially if you haven't been there recently to factor in the details.
Take the example of AO. You say not reporting on it makes it harder to find. This makes sense on the surface but when you factor that once reported, the AO providers often gets kicked out of the club, then you directly take out the supply.
Theory is like having a good plan but the details, in this case recent experience, will determine if it works out the way you imagine.
As the once great Mike Tyson said, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2153777]I don't have a lot of time for this anymore, but I'll respond to a couple things quickly.
It's been about a year since my last trip to Germany. Usually I go 2 or 3 times a year.
But a lot of what I have to say is based on my own experience actually running a prostitution discussion board. There are always guys who think public discussion is bad. And they always make the boards worse.
Think of it this way. If Consumer Reports went out of business who would benefit the most? Certainly not consumers. And not the companies with the best products. It would be the companies with bad products who benefit.
So if prostitution boards went away who would benefit? Those who once posted? Those who once read? FKK's with great girls who give great service? No. The ripoff places or places with poor services would benefit the most..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JasonWang;2153781]I went to Sharks today. The lineup was disappointing. Where are all the 9+ girls?[/QUOTE]During my last trip in February, I did not go with many regulars so most of my rooms were with girls for the first time. Exceptions were Daniella, Estephania, and Ingrid. I say that to explain that neither club had the safety net of relying on regulars.
My rooms with Anna, Daniella, Claudia, Adele, and Ariana at Oase were collectively superior to my rooms with Athena, Estephania, Helen, Lilly, and Ingrid at Sharks. I will add the caveat that the Sharks girls with the exception of Ingrid were all super young girls as opposed to the more experienced ones I chose at Oase.
Hard to tell you where the 9s are as I am reluctant to give a girl a 9. Only Nastia at Sharks has been a 9 for me.
I'd consider Claudia, Ariana, and Adele high 8s. Anna a high 7 and Daniella a solid 7. To me, all of the girls I chose at Sharks were low 8s. Helen may be a high 8. Ingrid perhaps a high 7 because of her weird shaped boobs.
To me, Oase was definitively better for service with top notch 1 hour rooms. At Sharks Helen and Ingrid gave great 1 hour service. Other Sharks girls often withheld real DFK and upsold too much.
But it can change month to month.