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Vignettes from Oase
one saturday in january i was in oase. i was with my friends in the club. we had split up as we do, to pick our girls. one friend was fucking lily from martinque all the time. it was funny since every time i look for him, he is in the arms of lily on a couch in the relax area or he is fucking her in the room. i think he fuck her like 4 times during our visit. my other friend was fucking romanians since he like them young and dark. i think he likes alina, cc, lia and maria but maria was not there. my other friend, he has alternative taste and he was fucking middle aged ones and not that good looking or even fit, i think. i do not want to think who he fucks just like he not interested to know who i fuck. i think he like mature women and he is not that old. lol. we all have different tastes so we no fight or compete for same women.
it was the second weekend when there was really heavy snow in frankfurt. the authorities say to do not drive unless very necessary. the club was fairly busy and there were not too many girls around and not too many men either. i think the men stay away because of the snow. what i saw was that some girls that give good services and had regular customers were doing brisk business and some girls were not getting any business at all.
around 9 pm the club got really busy with locals and many italian men. at 10 pm the club was packed.
what had happened was that a bus load of japanese men had come to the club. i think it was a fkk tour or they were here for a trade fair or this was a normal tour of germany with an adult side tour to fkk. i was sitting at the bar when over 20 japanese men wearing bath towels around their waists, walk from the men’s locker room in single file up the stairs, through the corridor, pass the valuables lockers and into the main lounge area. i sit and count them since they walk in single file. the oase girls all look with glee at the customers especially the blond haired girls.
the japanese men are all in their middle years and some are a bit older. if i think they are in their middle years then they are a lot older than what i think since ethnic asian men seem to age or wrinkle at a lesser pace than western men. i think anyway.
the men congregate near the entrance to the cinema and then they all try to go into the cinema at the same time. the japanese men are like a group of school boys keeping together and conferring with each other as they try to avoid eye contact with all the naked girls around them. slowly, girls try to peel off the stray japanese men off the group that are hanging off the pack. it is funny to watch since the japanese men are not breaking their pack.
at the bar, i think is their driver as he has kept his clothes on, wearing his puffer jacket and jeans in the oase warmth. he is japanese too and real tall. there are two middle aged men from that group that have managed to get white bath robes. these two guys looked like the leaders as they walked around liked they were veterans and not like deer caught in the headlights like the towel wrapped men. also these two walked around with their hands behind their back like they are factory supervisor. the other 20 men were wearing the usual yellow bath towels around their waists.
when all the men were standing in a group at the cinema entrance they must have gotten a briefing from the two bath robe wearing men. then the concave broke up and then men went off in small groups of singles, twos or threes around the main lounge area.
the two bath robe men took up a standing position at the bar directly opposite to the valuables lockers while the driver sat and had a drink. as time goes by, the oase girls have plied their trade and had picked men off to take to the room. as each man goes with his girl to the room they pass by the two men in white bath robes who stop the man to talk to him while his picked girl waits. i do not know what they two bath robe men says but it seems like they checking each girl and warn the man about how much to spend.
after say half hour all the men have picked a girl and had gone to the room and have come back. the bookings seem to be over in a matter of 10 minutes and no more than 20 minutes. the men that have finished and they paid their girl and got their chaste kiss on the cheek thank you or not even a kiss good bye, get told to go get dressed by their bath robe boss men. the two men in bath robes do not go with any girls i think and nor does the driver man who just sat at the bar.
then by 11 pm the men are all done and gone out into the snow to their waiting bus i think. i do not know.
one of my friends comes out and says to me did i see the tour party and i say yes i did. we wonder if it is a fkk tour group. the fkk tour group we see all the time is led by a less than average sized bald headed american man who tends to have mixed asian and european tour group. it might be a japanese fkk tour and their next stop maybe palace or world.
i think and chat to my friend and we think in the space of one hour the oase management has got maybe 20 to 23 entrance fees of 65 euro making 1.300 euro to 1.495 euro. then with all the bookings made by the 20 men the girls made another 1.000 euro in bookings at least if each booking was 50 euro a time, maybe 100 euro if there was come in mouth finish. i think not since their tour leader maybe tells them to avoid coming in girl’s mouth to save 50 euro. so altogether the cash dropped in the oase club in that one hour by this tour group was 2.300 euro at least and maybe more.
then i went with a young girl. she has a look that i like which is my favorite. a knock out looker, with social time pre booking, excellent performance in the room and after sales service was good too. she was like a dream with her deep throat fellatio and licking my balls. she even let me have her lie on her back and put her head over the edge of the bed so she face upside down and she let me fuck her mouth that way. i not see her again in the club. i think she was a free lance girl earning a bit of money.
now i relate another story. i know verona a little while now. i have dirty memories of her being booked by an indian man i met in the club. i think he was here for a dirty sex trip while in europe for work. he and i were talking about the fkk clubs and he asks me what i know of verona. i say she is good in the room and in the cinema. she does all that you would want i think.
when i take another girl to the room, we go to the back rooms where the girls’ lockers are and i pass the indian man. he is sitting totally naked on the black couch relaxed as he is waiting to see his dentist. there is a naked verona on her knees in between his legs sucking his penis. the indian man looks up at me and just looks blankly at me. it is these small moments that somehow stick in my mind. it was the blank look that he gave me somehow. he has this beautiful and cute blond girl sucking his penis like some porno fantasy and he is just sitting there like he is in shock. the image is somehow perverse but erotic. i grin and walk on with my girl to the room. i think the scene look funny. later on the indian man says verona was only average. maybe he got stage fright.
the next day, my friends and me go for brunch at harvey’s [url]http://www.harveys-ffm.de/start.html[/url] and hang out with the gay and gay friendly people. nice atmosphere. food is okay and nicely presented.
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[QUOTE=Weyfarere]
You must be one charming guy. There has been many a time and I mean many a time when I am in the room and I finish in 15 minutes or so and quick as the Flash, the girl has got up and putting her shoes and towel then cleaning the room for us to go. I am usually lying on the bed catching my breath after just coming. What do you do when the girl does that?
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Well I am not sure that I am all that charming. But I do spend time at Artemis (my "home" club-but this applies also to any club you regularly visit) and I guess some girls notice this so I am considered to be a potential repeat customer.
I also am pretty careful who I take to the room. I try to have open eyes and see that if a girl is just for me an optifick, that is we do not get along particularly well-I just like her look, then I do not have high expectations. I then try to take my time in the beginning and not get right at it.
All I say is that an FKK is a busy sex market. There are all types of girls with all types of approaches. Your job, if you want to get full fun from your dollars, is not to just chase after the first girl who bats her pretty eyes at you, but to really tune into the girl and see if she might be a girl who will want to also have some fun with you. They do exist.
If you chose well, all the short time & over time charge stuff disappears. And yes I do still make mistakes and mis-read girls. When this happens I try to limit the damage, get out of the room, pay the girl her fee, give her a peck on the cheek & thank her for her time, and start looking anew.
I am also (like you it sounds) a pretty easy customer. I tend to go with the flow mainly because I prefer flow to fighting the current. But I am not a push over. This can be a fine line.
As for the girl I mention-I have been to the room with her many, many times. We have also developed a friendship. Even now, when I do not always go to the room with her, she will always spend 20-30 minutes with me at some point in the evening just cuddling, talking and kissing. She is a very upfront girl and will always tell me the truth-as she sees it.
We often talk about the club and the customer/service provider perspective. I tell her what I think men are looking for when they come to an FKK-then she corrects me (hey-she is a woman) and tells me her experience. I also will ask her about girls I am interested in-her "take" on them.
Having such a friendship in an FKK can be invaluable.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Well I am not sure that I am all that charming...
I am also (like you it sounds) a pretty easy customer. I tend to go with the flow mainly because I prefer flow to fighting the current. But I am not a push over. This can be a fine line.[/QUOTE]It's called being a gentleman and treating someone as a person, not an object, and as you wish to be treated.
[QUOTE]As for the girl I mention-I have been to the room with her many, many times. We have also developed a friendship. Even now, when I do not always go to the room with her, she will always spend 20-30 minutes with me at some point in the evening just cuddling, talking and kissing. She is a very upfront girl and will always tell me the truth-as she sees it...
Having such a friendship in an FKK can be invaluable.[/QUOTE]You are a 'lucky' man to have such a relationship; though as you point out, luck has nothing to do with it. You selected carefully and then cultivated this relationship over time.
As for the secret to always getting your full time? I think I have the answer: Age. I'm one of thos 'old' guys the ladies hate cuz it takes me for ever...
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[QUOTE=Myrmidon]
As for the secret to always getting your full time? I think I have the answer: Age. I'm one of thos 'old' guys the ladies hate cuz it takes me for ever...[/QUOTE]
LOL-yeah there is also that aspect. I'm not exactly a hair trigger Harry myself anymore. Especially on the third Zimmer of the evening.
AM
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Predation tactics
[quote=weyfarere]the men congregate near the entrance to the cinema and then they all try to go into the cinema at the same time. the japanese men are like a group of school boys keeping together and conferring with each other as they try to avoid eye contact with all the naked girls around them. slowly, girls try to peel off the stray japanese men off the group that are hanging off the pack. it is funny to watch since the japanese men are not breaking their pack.
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this is funny, because fish swim in schools in the same manner to avoid being eaten by predators. then the predators circle the school picking off the stray fish, whether weak or adventurous.
eat or be eaten!
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Zimmer
Only three zimmers?
Are you slowing down?
Suggest Vitamin E
Or Vitamin V.
Strato
[QUOTE=Angus Magee]LOL-yeah there is also that aspect. I'm not exactly a hair trigger Harry myself anymore. Especially on the third Zimmer of the evening.
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sorry, didn't mean to start a debate regarding the legal status of cannabis in de. i'm well aware of the letter of the law, but having mongered and smoked on every continent besides africa, from amsterdam to beijing, i understand that a little discreetness goes a long way. apparently at oase, this is true as well.
anyway, i couldn't contain myself and decided to visit oase earlier than intended, thursday evening to be exact. i arrived around 9:30pm and was very satisfied with the girl to guy ratio, approx 2:1 in my estimation. this being my first time experiencing fkk, i was completely blown away by the quality of the girls and the amount of action appearing everywhere i turned. it took me at least an hour to get my bearings, settle in and become familiar with the lay of the land.
even after reading many posts here, one thing i was not prepared for was effectively turning down the advances of girls that i either wasn't attracted to or didn't think i would have any chemistry with, especially if they were relentless in their pursuits. the details of my first session will illustrate this further. i like to consider myself a gentleman, but find the effort to balance both friendly conversation with perpetual dodging the question of going to a room a bit tiring. oh well, i guess that's part of the game i need to work on.
the session details:
(note. i'm terrible with names, hope descriptions will suffice)
#1. in the jacuzzi room, i was "pulled" into a conversation with a very experienced girl who said she was from verona, italy and had been working at oase for 3 years. she was a shoulder length brunette with a fit body, small breasts and very nice legs/ass. i made the mistake of letting her know i was a rookie fkker in an attempt to use the excuse of "needing more time to get to know the place before choosing a girl. " this bought me enough time to peel away and check out the sauna areas before heading back to the bar for a drink. anyway, she caught up with me again at the entrance of the kino where she grabbed my hand, pulled me to a couch and began an unsolicited bbj. her gamble worked as i didn't have it in me to say "nein. " a few minutes in and another girl sat down on the couch, presumably a friend of hers, and asked if we wanted company. she looked to be a chinese or japanese and anglo mix, pulled back hair, with large chinese/kanji characters down her left leg and a very nice, fat ass. she said she was from valencia, spain. anyway, i'm a sucker for asians with fat asses, so my dick did the thinking for me and i agreed to a two girl session. what a mistake that was! as soon as we're in the room, it's a constant upsell game. at first both of them were looking for upgrades. lesbo show, cim, anal. but i realized pretty quickly the mess i had gotten myself into and was firm that it was a straight 30 minutes, nothing more. the asian girl would not give up, throughout the session she kept pushing cim as if i was on the brink of giving in. the italian girl wasn't very pushy outside of the first 5 mins, she even seemed like she could give good service if not for the interference of the other girl. overall, it was about 20 mins of average, mechanical sex with two very decent looking girls. worth what i paid for relative to experiences in other countries, but i was still largely disappointed.
#2. after a considerable pause to recover and regroup, to include time in the sauna and a spliff in the garden, i found myself on the relax couches trying to pick the next girl to shag. i was approached by a cute romanian girl, light brown hair with average breasts and a soft, round ass. she said she was 24 and had only been working at oase for two weeks. she was very sweet and easy going, had a flirtatious way about her that wasn't obviously telegraphing a move back to a room. while talking to her on the couch, i received a text that required my presence to be elsewhere, so it was now or never. we headed back to a room with mirrors at all angles, including the ceiling. what commenced was some of the hottest, quickie sex i've ever engaged in. professionally or in my personal life. at one point, while in missionary with one hand lightly holding her neck and the other on her hip, i slipped and accidently put my weight on her neck, effectively choking her. i immediately stopped and began to apologize, but she actually put my hand back on her neck and told me that she likes it a little nasty! while i wasn't trying to test the limits of her boundaries, she did let me give it to her a little roughly, to include light hair pulling, pinning down and hard, fast sex. she finished me off cowgirl, after realizing that i enjoyed watching her ass bounce and shake while riding me fiercely. while we were cleaning up, she told me without any prompting that she liked sex with me and made me promise to find her when i visit oase again, a promise i definitely plan to keep!
so yeah, i'm planning another trip to oase either wednesday or thursday. i made some mental notes of at least a half dozen girls i'd like to at least sit down and talk with. there were some real stunners there last thursday, i'm hoping to see most of the same when i visit again. hopefully i'll have somewhat of a better plan to deal with saying no to girls i'm not feeling 100%. in the meantime, any experienced fkkers out there willing to lend some advice?
[quote=jmc s]hello,
in de for a few weeks and looking to experience oase (and fkk) for the first time early sunday (need a week to build up my strength/supply). i'm not looking for a crowd of punters during peak hours, but also don't want to be the sole focus of attention, hope the gamble pays off with a balance. will provide a full report.
have a question before i go. is discreet cannabis use in the form of a not-obvious-for-the-sake-of-obvious, pre-rolled spliff tolerated by the club? i particularly enjoy lighting up before and after a shag, but won't even bother if this is something strictly verboten.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]LOL-yeah there is also that aspect. I'm not exactly a hair trigger Harry myself anymore. Especially on the third Zimmer of the evening.[/QUOTE]At Oase there are some girls who I take ages to come with. There is one usual blond German girl that sighs when I ask her to take me to the room. She unhappy it since I take so long for me to come and I like to take one hour with her. She was another girl that say she not give wedding night sex. She say she work here for fuck and suck and not for GFE. With this girl I do not give a fuck what she is saying I would pump her in her rusty bullet hole and if I was in the mood let her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on my chest whilst wanking my self into a coma...she is that beautiful.
Usually my first shot I only last 10 minutes. Timea can make me come really quick with her mouth if it my first shot. So I try avoid Timea to later on in evening. So my first shot is hair trigger especially if I no wank for like several days before. A big dollop of come is usually the result. Funny for the girl's reaction when she get a big gift in her mouth from my me.
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[QUOTE=Mambomike]This is funny, because fish swim in schools in the same manner to avoid being eaten by predators. Then the predators circle the school picking off the stray fish, whether weak or adventurous.
Eat or be eaten![/QUOTE]The FKK tour was good business for the club and the girls. Maybe 2.300 euro spent in one hour by the is group split between the girls and the club. The girls were processing these guys like a canning ship on the high seas does its catch of tuna. They were all done in under 20 minutes in the room. I think they had a time table since the bath robe leader guys were ushering them out to their bus straight after they had come.
I do not know where they went after Oase. It sure looked like the girls sharked them regardless what their tour guide was trying to do to save them money.
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[QUOTE=Jmc S] Hopefully I'll have somewhat of a better plan to deal with saying no to girls I'm not feeling 100%. In the meantime, any experienced FKKers out there willing to lend some advice?
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Advice? Someone asked for advice? Ol'Angus just loves giving his advice.
Well, you could, as former first lady Nancy Reagan suggested of another pleasure past time that might also be familiar to you, "Just Say No".
No is, after all, one of the most effective words in the English language for avoiding that which we do not want. But I do understand that sometimes in the FKK environment it can be difficult to mutter and certainly many of the girls seem to have difficulty hearing that word.
It does well to remember that when you sit with a girl and talk, first contact, you are in effect, interviewing her for the position of being your short time pleasure companion. Or something like that. It does not mean that you can not be playful, flirty and charming. But when...errr...push comes to shove, this is what it is all about.
Some girls may be doing her damnedest to create the illusion of instant intimacy, but in the end you will be at the locker, paying her a fee. So while you can enjoy this intimacy aspect, don't let it sweep away your good sense & judgement too, too much. Remember that until you reach a certain point in the interview (this is not a hard line, but for me definitely once my cock goes in her mouth, I am committed to at least the half hour session) you are not committed to a session.
If and when you do say no the girl will almost always protest. Unless, that is, she is supremely confident in her ability to attract a customer. But then this quality in a girl is highly attractive (to me at least) and should she possess it, there is a lower chance that you will say no.
When she protests say, something like, she is a charming & beautiful companion but that you are just too tired to session right now and perhaps you can hook up later. In other words, give her a face saving out. Most girls will take this.
Some will not.
To the ones that do not you eventually have to, as suggested at the start of the post, Just Say No, and live with any discomfort this may cause you.
But then, from your report, it does sound like you know very well how to say "No". You were in the clutches of what sounds like a pretty shark-y lady in the one half of that duo. Having your cock in her mouth and still saying no to the cim up-sell, that is a pretty high level no, IMO.
BTW, great report and thanks for writing it. I will post in the RoD thread.
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Lucia?
[QUOTE=Jmc S]#1. In the jacuzzi room, I was "pulled" into a conversation with a very experienced girl who said she was from Verona, Italy and had been working at Oase for 3 years. She was a shoulder length brunette with a fit body, small breasts and very nice legs/ass.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like Lucia, provided you don't mean "fit" like an athlete, but rather neither overweight nor ultra-slim. Rather average face.
Seems she's one of the girls who most aggressively approaches newly arrived guys. She was one of the first girls that approached me on my second visit to Oase, and my first session of that day. On my third visit, she was the first to approach me, but then I declined. I didn't remember the details of the session with her, but it was neither stellar nor awful. (I wish I had Basketcase's memory.)
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Jmc S
[QUOTE=Jmc S] Anyway, I couldn't contain myself and decided to visit Oase earlier than intended, Thursday evening to be exact. I arrived around 9:30pm and was very satisfied with the girl to guy ratio, approx 2:1 in my estimation. [/QUOTE]
Thank you for your report of Thursday, 28 January 2010. Was it snowing badly that day? I know that the weekend from Friday to at least Sunday morning there was snow fall that meant travelling was a little treacherous. There was a huge Messe on but I did not get confirmation of faves working so I did not go in the end and forfeited my prepaid flights.
On Thursday, January 28, the feedback was at Oase there was 100 girls working and very few paying bears. This seems to conincide with your experience so the source seems correct. On Friday, January 29 and Saturday, January 30, FKK Palace was jam packed with guests from the Messe and an extensive array of women working the club I was told.
I have also noted a few girls from World (think Bulgars and Romanians) were migrating to work at Oase.
I just hope that line up of 100 girls for Oase on Thursday holds until I return. I think there is another huge Messe when I do so I think I may run into that line up. It is going to tough.
[QUOTE=Jmc S](note. I'm terrible with names, hope descriptions will suffice)
#1. In the jacuzzi room, I was "pulled" into a conversation with a very experienced girl who said she was from Verona, Italy and had been working at Oase for 3 years. She was a shoulder length brunette with a fit body, small breasts and very nice legs/ass.
A few minutes in and another girl sat down on the couch, presumably a friend of hers, and asked if we wanted company. She looked to be a Chinese or Japanese and Anglo mix, pulled back hair, with large Chinese/Kanji characters down her left leg and a VERY NICE, fat ass. She said she was from Valencia, Spain. [/QUOTE]
As Masayama says the first girl that took you and initiated the unsolicited BBBJ on the couch in public would have been Lucia (Romania) who claims she is from Italia. She has a tendency to latching on the new comers to the club and sweeping them up for a quick turnover. There are many reports on this thread on Lucia. Do a search on the name.
The second girl I believe is Luisa (Morocco / Spain) since the pulled back hair clinches it since Luisa tends to have her black hair tied up or pulled up in a bun. She has an Asian look but is North African and European mix. Well exotic. There are many reports on this thread on Luisa similar to Lucia. Do a search on the name Luisa.
[QUOTE=Jmc S]#2. ... I was approached by a cute Romanian girl, light brown hair with average breasts and a soft, round ass. She said she was 24 and had only been working at Oase for two weeks. She was very sweet and easy going, had a flirtatious way about her that wasn't obviously telegraphing a move back to a room. [/QUOTE]
No idea who this is.
[QUOTE=Jmc S]In the meantime, any experienced FKKers out there willing to lend some advice? [/QUOTE]
What advice are you after?
Do not forget your passport is my advice which I need to keep telling myself. I travel without it all the time. I cannot get over the concept of borders I think coming from an Island.
Other advice is that the Messe is over by Wednesday or Thursday when you visit next. I guess our trip timetables do not coincide. I come later on.
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Jmc S,
Unfortunate that you got stuck with Luisa and Lucia. Those two are among the few girls at Oase I would tell a friend to definately avoid.
The Romanian chick sounds interesting :)
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Haha, you guys nailed it! It was definitely Luisa and Lucia who taught me my hard lesson!! It's ironic too, while Lucia was telling me about the opera in Verona, I was recalling something I read here about a Romanian girl pretending to be Italian, as her spiel seemed a little too scripted/rehearsed.
And WOW, after searching this thread for both of their names I feel a little silly. If I had only saved a few notes on my iphone to refer to later, I could have avoided the entire situation. Oh well, live and learn!!
Speaking on iphones, is it safe to pull it out in the club to browse the web (AKA mobile recon on ISG)? I worry some of the girls will think I am trying to take pictures, which seems forbidden.
Qubei - Yes, the Romanian girl is definitely someone to try for her service alone. She said she does not work Mondays, and I will make sure to get her name to report if/when I see her again.
Basketcase - Your info is correct as there were many girls and few guys going into rooms. Also, apparently Thursdays are when the girls are allowed to wear some clothing, so many girls were in bikinis and shorts. I plan to go again soon, maybe Wednesday so the girls will be totally nude, but I am considering Thursday if there is the possibility that the lineup will be similar to last week.
Angus Magee - THANK YOU very much for the advice, it was exactly the thing I was looking for. If we ever cross paths at Oase, please allow me to buy you two of whatever you're drinking!
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[b]Jmc S[/b]
You were unlucky! :eek:
I've been in the zimmer with both Luisa and Lucia on an individual basis.
You did well to survive with your wallet intact!
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