[QUOTE=Danny227;1898625]Statistics are that you have over 30 FKK clubs in the FRA area. [/QUOTE]There's not over 30 clubs in the Frankfurt area. But you are right that 70% plus of the girls are from Romania.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Danny227;1898625]Statistics are that you have over 30 FKK clubs in the FRA area. [/QUOTE]There's not over 30 clubs in the Frankfurt area. But you are right that 70% plus of the girls are from Romania.
HB.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;1898383]First of all I can tell you that I fucked a Romanian in Madrid the night to Thursday so my no Romanian policy didn't last very long. It was probably the worst lay I've ever had, after three strokes she started complaining saying that her pussy hurt. And that's after I had chatted / interviewed her for quite some time before doing the deed.
But I'm still planning to fuck another Romanian tonight.
About Jennifer, I haven't sessioned with her and she is looking so great that I still want to session with her despite her obvious lies about her origin.
I agree with you that it shouldn't matter what country a girl's from. But statistics don't lie and my stats, experience with pros, clearly shows that my worst experiences have been with Romanians and even when they do offer "GFE" it's lackluster.
It's not prejudice, it's experience. And it's not racial, it's cultural. But of course some people loves to deny cultural differences.[/QUOTE]I had a bad room with a really beautiful tall Romanian long black hair, Nina, who was with Evita on April 2014 at Sharks. She worked in Spain before. The only girl I didn't wait to go downstairs. But I had so many exceptional rooms with really sweet Romanians, sometimes like with Steffi at Globe or even Ilka last night, I m even surprised with their GF illusion behavior, they don t even need to give so much.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1898100]One thing about Oase is that kino sex is always on the plate. All this talk of "things used to be different and there used to be more public sex in the good old days" - I don't get. I fucked 3 of the 4 girls in kino in multiple positions, and the fourth Veronica did not want to fuck in the kino but gave me a extended BJ in the lounge which is much better lit than the kino. So, that's 100% rate on the BJ and 75% on fuck, and mind you these were just random picks by me. So, I really do think if there is not more public sex it's because the guys are too shy or averse; the girls themselves will do it anywhere as they want to get paid.[/QUOTE]+1.
Exactly. Excellent reporting. Public sex is SO easy to get at Oase. Don't blame the girls. Most of them will be up for it.
Was it more in the past? Probably in the first 2- 4 years (2002- 06?). Why? My guess is a different clientele of male guests. More local people. More "professional" mongers who adapted the German p4p culture. And; before the wall from the kino to the living room was taken down, as it made some guys chicken out.
Was it different? In the sense that you could have a little bit of "free" smalltalk, fondling, kissing and ... BBBJ (10- 15 mnts) before you went to a room and the time started, yes! This is rare with a new girl these days, but with a regular still possible. Just don't dare imagine that back in the days it was possible to get free DFK/BBBJ in public and then say no and move on to the next girl. This was never tolerated by the girls/club. And as a true gent, you would of course respect that you were obliged to pay once either full DFK or BBBJ had started.
Just don't blame the girls for less public action. Public action is still on.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;1898383]I agree with you that it shouldn't matter what country a girl's from. But statistics don't lie and my stats, experience with pros, clearly shows that my worst experiences have been with Romanians and even when they do offer "GFE" it's lackluster.
[/QUOTE]You get the most bad experiences from Romanians, we also get the most good experiences from Romanians. Romanians dominate everything. How good is the session can depend on how much you spend, for sure, and careful selection. Take plenty of time to select.
As a ratio, of good sessions to bad sessions by country, my worst performing country, is probably Germany, even at World where bad sessions should be fewer. Yet I am still willing to take a German girl if I can get a good vibe. It is just a little more risky, overall. I used to have a regular brunette Maria supposedly German at Oase, and have taken Sandra at Sharks.
For best success rate, I would go with Brazilians or similar Latinas. Some countries, like Poland, Czech, Ukraine and Hungary are hard to rate fairly, due to very low sample size. I don't recall ever having a bad session girl from Slovakia, just luck I guess. However you can get a bad session girl from anywhere.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1898718]There's not over 30 clubs in the Frankfurt area. But you are right that 70% plus of the girls are from Romania.
HB.[/QUOTE]I am including Dusseldorf (it is with in the driving area on the weekend), which has 30, Frankfurt has 11. Apologies for the lack of clarity. Point is still the same.
[QUOTE=Danny227;1898625]Statistics are that you have over 30 FKK clubs in the FRA area. To be conservative, I'd say that there probably over 1000 female providers in those clubs, and further, staying conservative, 70% are Romanians. That's about 700 Romanian female providers. We all frequent these clubs, searching for these Romanians, we write about them in forums and spend absence amounts of money on them. Do the math. We don't do it because they can't give service. So, statistically speaking, Romanians dominate the industry. I am not sure what's your sample size, but it doesn't seem significant. Or, alternatively, this is not girl / culture / race specific, but person specific (E. G, the problem may lie with you).
That said, blessed is he who gave us Romanians![/QUOTE]If the problem was with me how come I almost always get good to fantastic service from Latinas? How come I love and am amazed over how good they are to me? And my share of Latinas vs Romanians are probably 50/50.
I think that I don't get good service from Romanians because they need more money to get motivated. I don't do upgrades and extras neither with Romanians nor Latinas. I do strictly 30 minutes, although I at occasion do longer sessions like I did 1. 5 hours with Gabriella. I also think that the Romanians don't see me as a repeat customer so they don't see any greater financial gain in giving me good service.
I thought guys fucked Romanians because they are so many, beautiful and if you just pay / repeat enough they may give good service.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1898797]You get the most bad experiences from Romanians, we also get the most good experiences from Romanians. Romanians dominate everything. How good is the session can depend on how much you spend, for sure, and careful selection. Take plenty of time to select.
As a ratio, of good sessions to bad sessions by country, my worst performing country, is probably Germany, even at World where bad sessions should be fewer. Yet I am still willing to take a German girl if I can get a good vibe. It is just a little more risky, overall. I used to have a regular brunette Maria supposedly German at Oase, and have taken Sandra at Sharks.[/QUOTE]I always take plenty of time in the Spanish clubs but in the FKK's I feel stressed. It's like the girls want a fast yes or no, so I don't really feel like I get a chance to do a little chitchatting getting a feeling for her.
But also when I take some time I get let down. Like the last Romanian in Madrid or one girl in Oase who I spoke to and really felt a good vibe. She showed me photos on her cellphone and didn't stress me at all to go, but once in the room the pussy was hurting and the 30 minutes ended after 15 minutes.
I actually got most good sessions with Brazilians & Venezuelans, I can honestly say that I've never had one great session with a Romanian that left me wanting for more. OK, Alexia in Oase was pretty good service wise but she is unfortunately not exactly a looker.
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Was it more in the past? Probably in the first 2- 4 years (2002- 06?). Why? My guess is a different clientele of male guests. More local people. More "professional" mongers who adapted the German p4p culture. [/QUOTE]Definitely there was more public sex. Not only in the cinema, also on all of the sofas, outside, especially in the "Strandkörbe" before the pool was built and the garden was significantly smaller. Now with all the tourists it is almost gone. Many muslims (not only, bus mostly) are wearing boxer shorts, even in the shower, being afraid to show themselves naked. Oase is the worst club I have seen about guys wearing slips or boxers, even outside in the garden, sunbathing or in the pool.
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1899004]Definitely there was more public sex. Not only in the cinema, also on all of the sofas, outside, especially in the "Strandkrbe" before the pool was built and the garden was significantly smaller. Now with all the tourists it is almost gone. Many muslims (not only, bus mostly) are wearing boxer shorts, even in the shower, being afraid to show themselves naked. Oase is the worst club I have seen about guys wearing slips or boxers, even outside in the garden, sunbathing or in the pool.
HB.[/QUOTE]I saw maybe 4-5 public fuck in the last year. World is better for outdoor sex. Oase, is great for cinema sex.
Perhaps there was more of it in the past, perhaps tourists and certain ethnicities are more shy (although I am a tourist) but I think it is futile to blame others. If you want to see more public sex, just do it yourself (as the Nike slogan used to say). Perhaps if more people do it, others lose their shyness and inhibitions and partake themselves. When I was in Oase last week, even after I did with 3 girls, I was disappointed to see not a single guy join this activity. A few guys took blowjobs in the room, but after a few minutes would pack up and move to the room (except one guy finished his entire session in the kino with a CIM, no fucking).
For sure its not the girls. Very few girls are willing to lose a sale due to shyness and unwillingness to do it in kino.
Since there are plenty new young girls not used to public sex and refusing DFK outside or even inside the room, it is also more difficult to find a girl for public sex. In the cinema maybe, but every other place often answered with a "no". At almost every club. At Sharks a girl even tried to convince me that public BJ is not allowed. Another said she has to take extra money for it, club rules. Not true of course.
So it's both: Different guys and also new girls.
HB.
Yup, def girls too. I was around when pre-zimmer make-out was fairly common in the kino, couches, etc.. Like I've stated, when I started going to Oase, girls suggesting kino was common. They knew the chances of guys committing was high when agreed to kino. No negotations, just pre-zimmer kissing times, and off to the room. Really simple.
Around that time, other clubs were more of less of the same(And I'm not talkin about small clubs around Dortmund or F39). I've had girls pull me to the couch for kissing time. Good times. LOL.
Yeah, it does seem that girls are less willing to kiss in the kino than to fuck in the kino. Not sure what it says about them and their inhibitions, LOL. Since I kiss just my special girls (which went up to 4 recently with Tatiana / Sharks), that's not a problem but if a guy wants both DFK and public sex, it might be an issue. But as I said, I picked 4 Oase girls at random and all agreed to fuck or suck in the kino. It was not their first choice location of course, but when facing the possibility that I would only do it in kino, they quickly gave in. Mila, the Russian / Ukrainian girl even began kissing me with tongue while riding cowgirl, but I kept my lips closed. No offense to her, she is quite cute in fact.
At Sharks, I never did it in the open garden or main lounge, but in the kino or on the couches outside the VIP rooms, plenty of girls are willing. Again, if I say "this is the only place I want to have sex" no girl is willing to lose the sale and walk away, per my experience.
Btw, I think it is actually much tougher for locals to do it than for tourists. I jokingly bemoan that there are no FKk clubs in the US but if there were, I doubt I would be visiting them at all, not knowing who I run into and where. It is so much easier to be totally uninhibited, do it in the public, or whatever else where no one knows me, and where this has no impact on my working and family life.
You got to look at it this way. It has to do with upselling you hear about all over. 1 HR minimum for kissing negotiations starts popping up as the public kissing drops. Coincidence? I don't think so.
All this is tied to clientele in combination with new generation of girls.
I know guys were talking about service level of Romanians, but in general, services reflects standards. A club may enforce it, or naturally kept at a level from the clientel.
I will be visiting Oase, and I don't know many of the girls since I have not been there in a long time. Some of my favorites were May (Thai) of a few years ago, Kelly (Dom), and Diana (Dom). I will need to find some new girls, and am interested in DFK, FIV, FIA, and rimming. Are there girls the experts here would recommend for those services?