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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1915566]Do I live in Iasie or Braila? Do I make less than 300 per month? These girls don t come from Bucharest or Constanza, where they could find a job, but from the Romanian country with misery, where they can t make money, to live. I agree they are not the cleverest, but never heard a Romanian or Bulgarian girl saying to me, she chose this job because she enjoys to be fucked, but You can keep eyes and ears closed, if you feel more comfortable.[/QUOTE]And you you can sell your Porsche, give all your money to some feminist group, and become a monk. No sex, only Bible reading! You will feel enlightened.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1915566]You can keep eyes and ears closed, if you feel more comfortable.[/QUOTE]So how do YOU live with all that 'guilt?" How do YOU sleep comfortably at night? Oh wait, you're so bloody special (French!) that all girls think it's an honour to get fucked by you? All Girls love your garlic breath, and will probably say at the end of the session: "oh noooo Monsieur Siroja, you don't need to pay me! You're sooooo special, but all [i]other[/i] men are pigs!
I'm not closing my eyes for anything, but reality is that there are MANY people (both male and female) in this world that do shitty jobs in order to be able to pay the bills at the end of the month. Do you think that the people cleaning toilets and collecting garbage do this job because they it was their dream job?! Do you think people enjoy standing in the greasy smell of a hamburger 'restaurant' all day long for a minimum wage, paying taxes and "protection money" to their "pimp" which is the government?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;1915566]Do I live in Iasie or Braila? Do I make less than 300 per month?[/QUOTE]Why are you so arrogant to think that you're the only person able to use Google and look for prostitutes or an FKK club? You honestly think that those girls don't have a TV or read magazines and don't know that they can make a lot of money in Germany? You really think that these girls can not pay for a cheap bus or train ticket themselves and find the way to an FKK club?
Sorry folks for being off topic here, but all of Siroja's THOUSANDS of stupid ramblings so far (about "Madi," and "angels" and more bla bla bla) have also contributed very little useful information, other than spreading his 'moral superiority' and hypocritical preachings, but of course he will only deliver his sermon [u]after[/u] he has finished fucking "all those poor girls."
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1915683]And you you can sell your Porsche, give all your money to some feminist group, and become a monk. No sex, only Bible reading! You will feel enlightened.[/QUOTE]Exactly! Tell this hypocrite idiot to put his money where his big mouth is!
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1914223]Many of these girls do not want boyfriends because of their jobs. Of the ones who live in the clubs, most probably do not.[/QUOTE]Years back at Paradise, a WG insisted to me "I have no BF, no fish. I can do what I want!" I responded by rolling my eyes. A few weeks later, I make a visit to the club around opening time, and I see a black BMW with RO license plates drive past me. I continue to sit in the car answering work emails. This same WG walks up to the driver side door in her pajamas and hands a small bag to the male driver. There interaction seemed normal--certainly not like a couple that had been separated for months. So to the clients she says "I have no man". To the Polizei, she probably says that is her "boyfriend".
Once I saw one of my regulars arrive by taxi to her Hessen club. Later that day in the room, I asked her: "How come your BF didn't take you to work today?" She responded: "How many times I must tell you. I have no BF!" She didn't know that I had already seen her FB page before. Her relationship status was "Married". Her husband's page was even less locked down. Based on photos and status updates, I could tell that he was making drives between RO and DE ever 3-4 weeks--sometimes with the WG, other times without.
Multiple times she offered to show me around Romania if I paid all her expenses. We even talked about dates and logistics, because I wanted to see if she was serious. I mean I knew what her man looked like. If I had followed through with the trip to RO, I am sure she would have probably introduced this man to me as her brother. Or I would have seen this man wearing a fake Romanian police officer uniform as he was trying to shake me down for some money. Who knows. Haha.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;1915683]And you you can sell your Porsche, give all your money to some feminist group, and become a monk. No sex, only Bible reading! You will feel enlightened.[/QUOTE]Try to put ski or a bike in a 911. Only a toy for men with balls, to push the limits, but not the fastest rockets on autobahns.
For my guilt, I don t sleep anymore, that s why I have more time to enjoy, than others, and no need for me to be jealous, because I have all the prettiest girls, behaving like GF, due to my behavior with them. Just easy game.
Even fast money, no more difficult job than being fucked all day.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;1915554]How a 20 yo girl, living in Moldovan Romania, with no job, can buy a car? Or pay bus, or train, or plane, pay 120 for entry to work? Travel and first entry cost 1 month working in Romanian country, for those who are lucky to get a job. Do girls ask for studies credit at the bank? Pimps are not always in the Mercedes, waiting in the parking. Keep on believing girls are free to decide.[/QUOTE]Romanians are poor, not beggers. Even in Romania, it is not hard to save for a train ticket and have 500 Euro in your pocket and start working at FKK.
For all of your hours in rooms with girls, I don't think you know as much as you think you do about their personal lives.
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I understand that pimping and boyfriends are sometimes the case, maybe even up to half. I also have a half dozen WGs on FB and only one is married and a few others have pictures with different men / boys every few months. So they may be dating, but serious relationships are definitely not 90% like others suggest.
Then there are ones who hang outside of the clubs. For free. Gasp! It happens, regularly! There is a monger who is in Romania right NOW with 2 Goldentime girls with him on holiday. He is not a rich man. He has no money to pay for them for 2 weeks. The girls are actually friends with him.
And then there are the girls who really only plan on doing this for a couple of years and they grind hard to save money away to either pay for their parents' lives or support a fatherless baby. They are the ones who are there 6-7 days a week from open to close. And unless some of you are very wealthy, many of these girls have more cash saved away than you have in your checking / savings account. Not all guys pay the standard 50/100 Euro session prices. Many give these girls hundreds for an hour of just talking.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1915727]Years back at Paradise, a WG insisted to me "I have no BF, no fish. I can do what I want!" I responded by rolling my eyes. A few weeks later, I make a visit to the club around opening time, and I see a black BMW with RO license plates drive past me. I continue to sit in the car answering work emails. This same WG walks up to the driver side door in her pajamas and hands a small bag to the male driver. There interaction seemed normal--certainly not like a couple that had been separated for months. So to the clients she says "I have no man". To the Polizei, she probably says that is her "boyfriend".
Once I saw one of my regulars arrive by taxi to her Hessen club. Later that day in the room, I asked her: "How come your BF didn't take you to work today?" She responded: "How many times I must tell you. I have no BF!" She didn't know that I had already seen her FB page before. Her relationship status was "Married". Her husband's page was even less locked down. Based on photos and status updates, I could tell that he was making drives between RO and DE ever 3-4 weeks--sometimes with the WG, other times without.
Multiple times she offered to show me around Romania if I paid all her expenses. We even talked about dates and logistics, because I wanted to see if she was serious. I mean I knew what her man looked like. If I had followed through with the trip to RO, I am sure she would have probably introduced this man to me as her brother. Or I would have seen this man wearing a fake Romanian police officer uniform as he was trying to shake me down for some money. Who knows. Haha.[/QUOTE]
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Indeed, 50% is a high number. And we don't argue that lots of these girls have BF's or pimps outside of their jobs. I've even met a bunsh of these pimps inside the clubs, and they've asked me to buy one of their girls. They even gave me a price for her.
But I also have some of them on facebook, and I see they have lots of other friends who also work at the same club. So I can check them up as well. Some have kicked out their pimps or boyfriends who are / were sometimes 10-20 years older than them. Some are married and openly shows it with their kids on facebook. True all that. But as Takedown says, if you work 6-7 days a week, chances are that you don't have a pimp or a boyfriend. If you work 3-4 days a week and you arrive late or leave early, then chances are that you have a pimp or a boyfriend. Lazy girls who gives bad service also has a higher vhance of having a pimp than girls who gives good service. Though I do know at least 2 married FKK girls that does great service. So generalization is not allways a fact.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;1915746]Romanians are poor, not beggers. Even in Romania, it is not hard to save for a train ticket and have 500 Euro in your pocket and start working at FKK.
For all of your hours in rooms with girls, I don't think you know as much as you think you do about their personal lives.[/QUOTE]500 € are 2 months for salary for many Romanians. How do You save money when You don t have a job and your parents don t have a job. For my many hours in room with same girls, I don t speak about their personal life in room, because I m not interested by their "true?" personal life, but most tell me about their personal life, even knowing I m a writer, because they know I never write about our rooms or " at home" things. I prefer to believe what girls say when they just start, rather than when they become too business girls, and then even I enjoyed with them, not attracted anymore by too many lies which kill my desire.
But I would be so happy if FKK girls, even German girls with Turkish or Albanian BF, were really free to decide, like I am, and also keep money they make, only for them, not for the Mercedes taxi, or a house they are not the owner. But I m a dreamer, used not to believe everything.
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I have said this before. I don't want to hear a lot of lies or bullshit from girls. It would spoil my experience. I therefore do not ask them personal questions. They only speak about topics of their own choosing, only occasional personal stuff but innocent normal stuff mostly. That way it is not necessary for them to make up bullshit.
Concentrate on the experience with the girl. She can decide what we will talk about when the mouth is not too busy. Philippina May did want to interview me first before selecting me as her next victim. LOL. Really good fun session. I hope my service was okay For her. Will she want to repeat? What do I know about her personal stuff. Almost Zero. Was not important. Okay She tells me she is only part time as like a hobby at first. We talk about what we like and style and character. About having some fun. Not at all a typical girl. Completely strange for Oase.
In Sharks I saw two girls (always together) dropped off in BMW by two guys. Do I ask these girls any questions about it? None at all. I don't want to know if boyfriends, pimps or whatever. I don't want girl to need to come up with a story. What will be the usefulness?
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[QUOTE=Pistons;1915782] if you work 6-7 days a week, chances are that you don't have a pimp or a boyfriend. If you work 3-4 days a week and you arrive late or leave early, then chances are that you have a pimp or a boyfriend. Lazy girls who gives bad service also has a higher vhance of having a pimp than girls who gives good service. [/QUOTE]You have no clue at all. Girls giving great service to almost every guy, working long hours (12-14) and almost every day are the pimped ones. That's the only way to make the money they have to make. That's how it is. Seen this often enough.
HB.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1915882]You have no clue at all. Girls giving great service to almost every guy, working long hours (12-14) and almost every day are the pimped ones. That's the only way to make the money they have to make. That's how it is. Seen this often enough.
HB.[/QUOTE]Of course, because BF / pimp ask them such money per day. Girls who work only one day in a week to buy shoes, may have real BF, not a small dick pimp asking them to make 700 each day, to pay his Mercedes, and pimps are not always in Germany, some "take care" of the family.
Some believe too much girls, here, they should just open eyes, I remember a member saying to me: Evita loves Asians for real, make me laugh, just easy business and she is clever for this.
FKK land of lies and illusion.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1915882]You have no clue at all. Girls giving great service to almost every guy, working long hours (12-14) and almost every day are the pimped ones. That's the only way to make the money they have to make. That's how it is. Seen this often enough.
HB.[/QUOTE]I assumed his post was supposed to be Satire or irony. I. e. Exactly opposite of what he meant. However cannot be sure and I sure love satire as a writing device in general. That was my bad attempt at Satire. I actually dislike it. Its not very funny at all. Just confusing. Hard to be sure what he believes, even he does make actual sentences. Maybe its Satire.
The less girls work, the more I believe they have other things to do in their life, and need to rest the body more than make money all the time.
I guess Isabella cannot have a pimp since she gave up the sex work to become the manicurist. I did not need the proof. I never pondered this question. Alina became a receptionist, and Alicia. So sure not every girl has a pimp. I think we get too carried away with pimp speculation. Why try to be expert on this topic? I just admit to knowing little about most girls other than their look.
Even for performance the girls perform quite differently for different customers. We can only say what the girl is capable of when she wants to provide it. I accept that Laura/Livia is great for some but useless for me. On the other hand Carla may be ordinary for some in 30 mins but fantastic for me with no faults at all, high stamina, and well worth extended bookings. I have to thank some forum members for really pushing me to try.
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One advantage of the Sharks club for girls was the ability to work whenever they wanted to. Very few days per week was allowable and start any time.
Do I detect that Oase rules have also relaxed with some girls working more part time and now seeing girls arrive much later than 5 pm?
Maybe Oase rules are less strict than before although full flexibility of finish time may not be there yet. At Sharks, girls can leave when they had enough.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1915845]In Sharks I saw two girls (always together) dropped off in BMW by two guys. Do I ask these girls any questions about it? None at all. I don't want to know if boyfriends, pimps or whatever. I don't want girl to need to come up with a story. What will be the usefulness?[/QUOTE]Generally a WG asks me a personal question first. Then I just bounce the same question back to be polite. With some WGs I repeat with often, relationship status becomes a running joke.
For instance, one WG is convinced I am married. She doesn't tease me about it each time I see her, because it would get old and cease to be funny. But a few months back she playful pinned me down and threatened to jab me in the ribs until I confessed, "say me the truth! We were both laughing hysterically.
With the second WG I mentioned, she said "when you come see me in Romania? When she does that, I just humor her back and start asking questions about dates. She is also convinced I am married and thus won't be able to fit it into my schedule. So she is calling my bluff. Essentially she is "joshing" me. Because she thinks I will be the first to back down. If I am the one to back down, she starts teasing me with a smile "See, because you are married!
Of course, there are other girls I have seen get dropped off in BMWs too and I never utter a word about it. Either I don't know them well or I find them to be too serious.
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Pistons,
When HB directs the statement "You have no clue at all" (as he has done to me in the past), you know that you have become a bandwidth waster. Welcome to the club!