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Another word of warning - no matter how 'careful' you are.
Two colleagues of mine were in Rio last year and brought back a couple of young ladies to their appartment from one of the larger discos.
There were drinks all round at the appartment. One of the guys could not come to a satisfactory financial arrangement with his gal. She went off after a tip and all amicable. He went to bed without having his drink.
The next day, his friend discovered that the other girl had slipped them a Mickey Finn. The Guy who went to bed missed out on the drink, the other, unfortunately did not. The girl left with his cash etc.
So - the only moral here is NEVER LEAVE A DRINK ON THE TABLE, UNATTENDED when the girls are around. It is too easy for them to slip something into them; this has been a standard trick for many years but is now becoming a much more widespread way of carrying out theft. The trouble is that it can become a disaster
No matter how well you look after yourselves OUTSIDE, be cautious once you get INSIDE, as well.
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Here we go again. I live here in Rio, and read the papers regularly and never read anything about that. I'm sure it would have hit the papers and everyone on the streets would have been talking about it. Again, I heard nothing about it, or read about it either.. If in fact your colleague did happen to die, that is certainly a shame. But this sounds like Total Bull *hit to me..
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Nodd
Unfortunately it is 100% true. The Press did get hold of it but the way it was handled by the Police was swift, and to say the least, professional and surprisingly efficient. The feeling was that this publicity was not needed and the sooner the matter was sorted out, the better - as indeed it was.
To make a report such as this is delicate, to say the least, and it was posted as a warning. If you live in Rio I am sure that you are aware that this kind of thing goes on - I was hit once in Latvia in the same way but am still around to tell the story. I would not make a posting such as this if it was not completely factual and a bona fide warning to visitors who are new to the area or the game.
I do not think that you should be so sensitive although I understand your wishing to protect the city where you live. It may be that there are other stories of things happening in Rio and, I expect, that by and large there is no smoke without fire - I am not aware of them although I have visited most major cities in Brazil over the years and was, indeed, aware of the amount of sensationialist stories published. I would not dream of going into all the details as to what happened but it was a very distressing situation. - already I feel slightly guilty in relaying any details but if it does make people aware as to what can happen then it will help.
Not everything reaches the papers, as I am sure that you know - especially if it is not in the general interest of the Country concerned.
No B-S my friend - I have better things to do than make up stories (especially as poignant as this one!)
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Actually druggings do happen and I've had friends who've been caught out. In point form for easy reading.
- The drug is called 'Boa Noite Cinderella'.
- The kiosk across the road from Help/Sobre das Ondas sells it to the girls.
- Attempted druggings are easy to spot;
- you meet a girl over outside Help. After a while she will suggest going over to sit at the kiosk for a drink. Thats when you get hit. The other modification is that she will say 'lets go back to your apartment for a drink, we can buy beer over the road at the kiosk'. She will add the BNC to your drink while back at the apartment.
- Other warning signs, if a girl asks you if you are staying at an apartment or hotel. If you say hotel and she suddenly looses interest that she may have had a drugging in mind.(hotels check ID etc).
However, in view of all this, I have heard that drugging is much more common in Thailand and many guys die each year from overdoses.
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Sounds like everyone knows someone that gets either mugged or drugged in Rio, right.. I have been going to Rio for 4 years and I have been living here for 1 year and during that time I have literally met hundreds of male tourists. I have only met ONE guy that got drugged in all that time.. I know him personally and I was the one he called when he came too... I have a hard time believing any stories I read on anonymous sites like these. It’s too easy to Bull *hit here…..
Everyone I know of here, knows better that to walk on the beach side of Av. Atlantica at night... even the girls will not want to walk on that side of the street at night...
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Hi Nodd,
the two instances of I know of were personal friends, if you think my facts are suspect just say 'Boa Noite Cinderella' to some girls and see what the reaction is.
Some guys are just too trusting, as for going over to that side of the road, I too would be very cautious but its not uncommon to see some fools go walking off down onto the beach even at 3-4am.
In general I find that bars/clubs in Brasil are a lot safer than those over in the UK. Very few drunks and all that pushing/shoving/bar room brawls we get over here is very rare.
Are you in Rio at the moment?
CE
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Yes, I live here in Copacabana now. I have been here now for a year.
I know all about 'Boa Noite Cinderella' as I mentioned before I know of one man that was robbed after being given some in his beer.
If you stick to Water they can't drug you with that stuff because it's light yellow in color. That's why beer is best for hiding it.
As for walking along the beach at night with a girl. I think it would be nearly impossible to find a girl that would walk with you late at night or early in the morning. They know better.
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I agree with Nodd_N to an extent. While I do acknowledge the fact that some rookie guys might get drugged I think the chances of it happening are very small. I haven't been going down to Rio for years or live there but I know a ton of guys that either go down monthly, live there or have been going down for years. None of them had this ever happen to them. I think part of it is if you are being stupid or not on your guard. I've seen tons of drunk Americans in Help that can't even walk straight. They leave with dog ugly girls because their beer goggles are on. These are the type of guys that are asking for trouble.
If you practice common sense you're odds of something bad happening to you are significantly lower. I've walked around Copacabana very late at night. Sure I see some shady characters but I'm never drunk and always alert.
I'm sorry to hear that happened to your friend. I also agree with Nodd that every single girl working in Rio knows not to walk on the beach side of Avenida Atlantica late at night. Your chances of something not good happening are probably high on that side. My girlfriend's friend got robbed at knifepoint on that side and it wasn't late at night.
I think it's safe to say Rio can be a dangerous place but it isn't as dangerous as some people make it out to be. Stay safe all.
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Gentlemen, I´m an italian guy who actually is in Rio and I registered my nickname only to give the news of the 4X4 girl recently killed. Then I decided to skip when I saw that an other guy had already given this information to the forum.
I want only add that, before coming to Rio, I didn´t have any information about this fact and, during the flight, I was happy thinking about seeing her again. Then her cousin, who even works at 4x4, told me. I´ve seen that nobody called this marvelous 22yrs mulatta by her art name and I respect this decision. Nobody making part of 4X4 staff liked to give detailed information on this fact and on who´s taking care of her daughter/son. I met her last year and I was fascinated by her beauty, her body and her magnificent smile, something to die for, and for this reason every time I came to Rio I looked for her. I read now in this forum that it was probably a passionate killing and it seems to me hard to understand how it is possible to kill a so wonderful girl. I hope that everybody wants to join me giving honour to a girl that many of us knew and appreciated.
Gentlemen, let´s pray for her.
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I know this report is old but I figured it's still interesting to read:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1508490.stm
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Vadinho,
I'm sorry that something horrible like this happened to someone you knew. It's kind of shocking and scarey. Sometimes you can't understand why things like this happened.
I don't mean to in any way disrespect this girl and I'm not talking about her but guys have to remember that it can be a dirty and ugly business these girls are in. Yes, it's a business. Most of them are doing it only out of the need to survive. We look at it as fun and games and sometimes it's not that. Also, we have to remember that just because you spend a few hours with a girl doesn't give you insight to what a girl's REAL life is like. I know guys that thought they were in love and then the girl will pull a con or scam on him later on.
Remember that there is more to love than sleeping with someone. How can you be in love with someone that you can't communicate with, she can't understand you, you have no clue what their life is about, etc. Be careful down there.
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Vadinho Quote,
"I read now in this forum that it was probably a passionate killing and it seems to me hard to understand how it is possible to kill a so wonderful girl."
Its terrible when you hear about things like this. "Passion Killings", unfortunately, is something that happens far too often in our own society. Males, by nature are jealous and protective. I think most guys who knowingly date pro's are asking for trouble, and putting their emotional stability to an extreme test. It's difficult enough keeping jealousy in check with a normal girlfriend. I can't imagine the stress I would feel if I knew my girl was a pro. That's why, I and most rationale guys, will not put themselves in that position. I learned the hard way about jealous boyfriend and why I don't take pro's out who are involved with someone else. Here's a couple of my past experiences with jealous dude since I started mongering a few short years ago.
The first time I was lucky since my friend was very quick witted, and no doubt been in this situation before. I was a naive monger visiting Cali, Colombia. Ramon spots jealous boyfriend half a block away coming towards us to confront his girl. Ramon simultaneously gets her in a cab and distances myself from the chica so dude doesn't realize she's with me. The cab rolls away as jealous dude runs towards it with fists clenched in the air. We catch a cab going the other way thus avoid any possible confrontation.
Another time, probably the same trip, I had my neck wrung from a drunk ex-marine. He was pissed because his girl seemed interested in me. I go to the bar with a couple of chicas. I meet jealous boyfriend and other dudes with their dates. I realize the game his girl is playing, so I distance myself from her and jealous dude. But jealous guy always finds a reason to provoke as they are usually in an irrational rage. He confronts me as I try to make an exit with my hired help. He blames me because his girl was crying as she wanted to go dancing with me and my girlfriends. This guy has his hands wrapped around my throat asking me what I did. "I don't....know....what....your...talking....about", I stammered. The dude finally relents as I'm on my knees, red in the face, grasping for air. Next day, jealous guy realizes what an asshole he was and slips a 2-page apology note under my door. . Was almost worth the pain as I got exteme TLC from my girl that night.
Last May, I'm at Nuevo Estilo strip club in BA taking advantage of their 5 peso beers. I spot jealous dude at the bar with rage in his eyes. He was a nervous wreck watching his girlfriend work in the club. I buy him a beer and try to calm him down. I was finally able to convince him to leave before he made a scene and jeopardize his chica's job.
Here's the things I hope one can take from my past experiences to hopefully avoid jealous boyfriend.
Being out in public with a pro was the root problem of the 1st incident. If not for my friends quick thinking, there might not have been a happy ending. Not properly observing or understanding the potential volatililty of situation #2 caused this incident from happening. Finally, being aware of my surrounding with simple observation at Nuevo Estilo, I was able to spot jealous dude and avoid a potential problem.
Stay safe out there!!!
Late,
Judd
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Let me keep this simple. What other city has a crime section on WSG? Enough said.
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I recently spend two weeks in wonderful Rio and i had no safety problems whatsoever. I did hear of some local guy getting attacked outside the hotel - but i never saw anything crime or felt unsafe in Rio.
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I second Junior : never had a problem or felt unsafe in Rio, even at night in bars or clubs of Centro and Niteroi or even in Zona Norte (Duque de Caxias) where GF lived ; Ipanema, Gavea, Leblon or others Zona Sul areas (except Copa) are much safer than many Europeans cities ....
The worst area in south and central Rio is Copacabana, between Help and Meia P , a mugger's delight (funny how most visitors think that Copa is the safest, quite stupid IMO) ;