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I haven't been to the PI yet, but have a trip planned for October. Just a question for the guys dealing with situations involving pregnant chicks or accusations of pregnancy. With so much barebacking in AC, there is always a risk. Why not just give a false name? Are there problems with this? Does the Hotel keep a log of comings and goings that the girl could get ahold of in a paternity situation. Just curious when setting up my strategy for whether to use an assumed name while I am there.
Thanks,
Shadowj
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Dont be Paranoid
[QUOTE=Shadowj]I haven't been to the PI yet, but have a trip planned for October. Just a question for the guys dealing with situations involving pregnant chicks or accusations of pregnancy. With so much barebacking in AC, there is always a risk. Why not just give a false name? Are there problems with this? Does the Hotel keep a log of comings and goings that the girl could get ahold of in a paternity situation. Just curious when setting up my strategy for whether to use an assumed name while I am there.
Thanks,
Shadowj[/QUOTE]Regulations require foriegners to register with passports,But this can be dispensed with.No hotels do not keep logs of coming and goings, use an assumed name If that is your preference.Personally You should not run away from your responsibilities
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Alias
[QUOTE=Shadowj]I haven't been to the PI yet, but have a trip planned for October. Just a question for the guys dealing with situations involving pregnant chicks or accusations of pregnancy. With so much barebacking in AC, there is always a risk. Why not just give a false name? Are there problems with this? Does the Hotel keep a log of comings and goings that the girl could get ahold of in a paternity situation. Just curious when setting up my strategy for whether to use an assumed name while I am there.
Thanks,
Shadowj[/QUOTE]
Most hotels require that you register with your passport and also a credit card in case you bust the place up so I wouldn't be using any false ID connected with my credit card which can really foul things up for you down the road, remember, if they want you bad enough they can always go to the police/immigration and track you that way.
They do have paternity testing here in the PI and of course in any situation I would demand proof of the results of such test should a female make that accusation. Most filipinos wont submit to them due to the cost and bureacracy involved.
I would be VERY careful of barebacking in any situation. The PI has no where near the AIDES cases Thailand does, but Manila and of course Angeles is the highest ratio. Interesting to note that in the provinces especially Davao, cagayan de oro etc, almost no Aides cases HOWEVER many cases of Syphyllis. Lots of the "Ahkyat Barko" (Ship hopper) girls carry this, get it from the merchant seamen.
Spamhog
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SOme of yo never fail to amaze me
Pals,
Rookies never cease to amaze me. Why ponder such foolish matters as fake IDs and using a phony name to register? Why NOT simply use a condom. Fucking the pros without it is definitely stupid. End of Story.
As to getting a woman pregnant. If you do not have the human decency to own up to what you did. you are a fucking, pathetic coward. It bothers me that Cebulocal should encourage such activity. Then again, perhaps it should NOT bother me. I have to be more carefl who I choose for friends in the future. Something GoodEnough and I discussed only a few days ago.
Dragon Slayer
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Agreed!
[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,
Rookies never cease to amaze me. Why ponder such foolish matters as fake IDs and using a phony name to register? Why NOT simply use a condom. Fucking the pros without it is definitely stupid. End of Story.
As to getting a woman pregnant. If you do not have the human decency to own up to what you did. you are a fucking, pathetic coward. It bothers me that Cebulocal should encourage such activity. Then again, perhaps it should NOT bother me. I have to be more carefl who I choose for friends in the future. Something GoodEnough and I discussed only a few days ago.
Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]Yup I totally agreed with ya bro! Bareback will kill you one day worst make the working ladies pregnant!
Well maybe its cheap and fucking good to all whites! Poor these ladies!
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I do not encourage Bare Backing
[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]Pals,
Rookies never cease to amaze me. Why ponder such foolish matters as fake IDs and using a phony name to register? Why NOT simply use a condom. Fucking the pros without it is definitely stupid. End of Story.
As to getting a woman pregnant. If you do not have the human decency to own up to what you did. you are a fucking, pathetic coward. It bothers me that Cebulocal should encourage such activity. Then again, perhaps it should NOT bother me. I have to be more carefl who I choose for friends in the future. Something GoodEnough and I discussed only a few days ago.
Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]DS
Unfortunately You misunderstood my post,I do not encourage Barebacking and running away from your responsibilities.I am hurt you would think of me endorsing that behavior,I simply told him that Some hotels do not require Passports and Registration,If he chooses to do so.Think of me as the Nuetral Travel Agent who doesnt judge you even I disagree with what you are doing.Hopefully that issue is clear.I have modified my advice accordingly.Cheers
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Virginity
[QUOTE=CanContrib]You got a bonus! You found the only one! I'm not sure what I'd do if I ever encountered a *real* virgin.[/QUOTE]Hehe. My wife still had an intact hymen when she married me...dunno what your definition of 'virgin' is.
I've found there are plenty of decent Phillipina girls here who wait for the 'right guy' to get married. Maybe you're looking in the wrong places.
In a catholic country where virginity (or at least modesty) is still an admired attribute, the women you meet in bars have abandoned their morals to survive. Enjoy them but don't denigrate them for it.
I hate it when guys go to another country, bang a few hookers & suddenly they're an authority on the all the women in that country.
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Re: Virginity
I agree with Amavida. I've met hundreds of Filipinas, got to know maybe 50 well enough to make a judgement call and 49 were fine, #50 was a little bit of a scammer (believe that her friends put her up to it), but she travelled from CDO to Davao to meet me and then back on the bus to CDO, so maybe she was OK also.
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HWB & A: I agree with both of you that for every scammer there are lots of sweet girls just looking for a decent BF. If you compare the percentage of scammers among Filipinas looking for a foreign BF to the percenatage of guys going to the PI for sex who scam the girls . . . . .
IMHO certain members here have their own agendas, hence one needs to take BOTH the positive posts and the negative ones with a grain of salt.
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have to agree with surfer here
gentlemen we all talk about the scammers and rip off artists working the internet etc. however the other edge of the sword is that MANY decent ladies are on(and off) the internet and genuinely looking to meet a decent foreigner. By this they mean somebody who is not a dedicated monger, drunken bum who likes to beat the crap out of his women. Good luck Baby!
I've known lots of "nice girls" who were sorely frustrated after scouring the internet and meeting guys who ask them to show themselves or talk dirty while they jerk off. These ladies usually ask me or Mrs Spamhog to find them a nice guy...I give my standard answer, "I don't know any nice guys". (myself included)
As far as the "virginity" thing goes I suppose there is a happy medium, many Filipinas espouse virtue but the honest ones will tell you the truth about her sexual history, give me an honest woman any day, virgin or not.
Good luck & happy mongering
Spamhog
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men are terrible
Yes I have to agree with you spam hog, I think there is a great deal of girls even in ac who have been severely burned by foreigners like me!
The trouble with me is I like to fall in love, but with 5 or 6 or more girls at the same time! As we all know if they think you are their boyfrend, well this opens it up for mind blowing sex all positions, and bare back come inside.
Yes there are some serial scammers out there, but in the main I think us foreigners are to blame, I mean the phills is like fucking disney land, so if these girls meet hardened mongers like me they have no chance, as I will lie, cheat, do anything to get that mind blowing sex.
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[QUOTE=Guinness]Some have big agendas and some have small agendas. However, most Filipinas agree that the SIZE of the agenda DOES MATTER.
Guinness[/QUOTE]
Unless of course you are like Guinness and have no agenda, where absence is even more sorely missed than having a small agenda
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A Hole
[QUOTE=Any Hole]Yes there are some serial scammers out there, but in the main I think us foreigners are to blame, I mean the phills is like fucking disney land, so if these girls meet hardened mongers like me they have no chance, as I will lie, cheat, do anything to get that mind blowing sex.[/QUOTE]
Speak for yourself. You are the kind of slime that give real men a bad name.
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Glad to know who the A hole is...
Interesting. I'm middle aged, bald, beer belly, only a moderate income, yet I get mind blowing sex (with p4p AND regular women) without misleading anyone. I can only guess you are one horrifically ugly guy.
No, even if I was dog ugly, I wouldn't lie. Just isn't necessary. I suspect you have some personality flaw.
X
[QUOTE=Any Hole] I will lie, cheat, do anything to get that mind blowing sex.[/QUOTE]
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Playing the Game
The attitude i take after 2 trips to phils and a couple of filipina gfs here in australia is that its all a game and you win some, lose some, but there's always another little honey waiting in the wings. The stories they come up with and the variations on the same theme have to be almost admired. If you get sucked into their pleas for money over the net or after meeting them personally, well, bad luck for you, just learn from your mistakes.
What keeps us coming back is they are so cute, so good and willing in bed and by and large, so cheap. Beats the shit out of breaking your balls over aussie or american women who are control freaks, want everything off you and are older, not as good in bed, not as naturally attractive generally, and if you marry them and it doesn't work out, will take you for everything.
Whats better? Some cute little filipina asking you for $50 for some imagined sick relative, or some over made up, middle aged aussie chick with baggage from previous relationships, expecting you to wine and dine her for weeks or months even on a slight promise of some cold pussy if she feels like it?
I know there are some horror stories of guys marrying their little honeyko and then having her dash off as soon as she gets her visa etc, but most of the time the guy should have seen it coming and only has himself to blame. If he is honest with himself and looks back he will know the stories that didn't add up but he chose to ignore them. Love is blind!
I know what keeps me working 6 days a week for 11 months of the year is that I will be in Manila at New Year bedding an assortment of young, very willing and sensual partners that will cost me a fraction of what it would at home and will leave me feeling as good as gold.
Maybe one day I will get sick of the assortment and settle for just one, but until then I will enjoy their games and assess each story on its merits and watch my own back.
Until then I say: Each to their own, treat each lady with respect, wear a condom, beware of the scams, but love the phils!!
Cheers,
Pete
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Hi Guys,
I've been a reader for years and posted a few in the USA guide. I am heading over to AC for the first time in March and have a few questions. Didn't know whether to put this here or in the general AC section. Anyways, here is my situation. I have been talking to my AC "gf" since last May via YM and phone. I have a exporting business I started over there and have been able to trust her with large amounts of money. She has been more on top of it than I have, giving me reciepts and expense reports without me even asking. She has never asked me for money for a "sick" grandma or for anything really. Any money that I've ever given her has been work related. Overall she is great and a sweetheart, nothing to ever make me doubt her feelings. Now here is my dilemma, I am going to AC and want to have fun for a few days before I meet up with her. She lives in Mabacalat which is the municipality next to AC. She says she hardly goes into AC if ever. My question is how small or big is AC in general, like if I go BFing for the first 5 days is there a chance she may hear about it in the next municipality over? If I had a relative sense of how big AC is, I would have a better idea. Or even if you have advice if you were in this similar situation. Thanks guys.
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[QUOTE=Country Club]Hi Guys,
I've been a reader for years and posted a few in the USA guide. I am heading over to AC for the first time in March and have a few questions. Didn't know whether to put this here or in the general AC section. Anyways, here is my situation. I have been talking to my AC "gf" since last May via YM and phone. I have a exporting business I started over there and have been able to trust her with large amounts of money. She has been more on top of it than I have, giving me reciepts and expense reports without me even asking. She has never asked me for money for a "sick" grandma or for anything really. Any money that I've ever given her has been work related. Overall she is great and a sweetheart, nothing to ever make me doubt her feelings. Now here is my dilemma, I am going to AC and want to have fun for a few days before I meet up with her. She lives in Mabacalat which is the municipality next to AC. She says she hardly goes into AC if ever. My question is how small or big is AC in general, like if I go BFing for the first 5 days is there a chance she may hear about it in the next municipality over? If I had a relative sense of how big AC is, I would have a better idea. Or even if you have advice if you were in this similar situation. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
Why risk the chance? I wouldn't. The saying "It's A Small World" would definitely apply... especially in the Philippines. Somebody probably knows someone who knows someone who knows your Girlfriend. It's very likely that she might find out that you were in the Philippines for 5 days before you made your presence known to her. If I were you... I would go to Manila or Cebu... just away from AC... far away from AC!
This one time a married buddy of mine and I were on our way to Boracay. We brought our girlfriends along with us. Mind you... This was before I was married and I eventually ended up marrying the girlfriend that I brought to Boracay. As we were waiting at the airport to board the plane, he was slighty nervous because he was a bit worried that he might bump into one of his wife's friends or relatives or even one of his own relatives at the airport for good reason. Alot of the times when my buddy and I are at one of the malls in Manila, we always bump into someone he knows, who knows him and his wife. So being a little paranoid is normal because you never know who you might bump into. So as we all waited to board the plane, my buddy and I sat a good distance from our girlfriends so it would appear that we werent with anyone besides ourselves... although I wanted to sit beside my girlfriend, being the good friend that I am, I waited with my buddy so that I could appear to be his alibi / wingman.
Yes, the Philippines is a BIG country... but you never know who you might bump into. They might know your wife or a relative of her's who knows you or at least seen a picture of you with or without her. Especially if you dont look Filipino, they will surely remember what you look like! Just play it safe and "play" far away from AC!
Also becareful when you contact her when you get to the Philippines. You mentioned that you stay in contact with your girlfriend via phone and messenger? Make sure that you contact her like you usually do. Like, if you usually chat online with her when it's 9:00am in the Philippines, you better chat with her during the same time that you would usually chat with her. Becareful when calling her, or dont even call her since she'll see the number that you are calling from on her cellphone. Pinay's are very loving, but they can also be very angry if lied to. They can also get very suspicious if they have been scorned once already by somebody else. It's just their defense mechanism. Just play it safe if you intend to "disappear" for the 5 days before meeting up with your girlfriend.
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Good advice from Flip Mo,
You can have plenty of fun in MLA before you go to AC.
I did the same thing in Dec. I was with my girl and she wanted to see the pic in my passport. Then she started looking at visas and a chill went up my spine. I grabbed it back....yikes....if she had seen the arrival date in my passport, the jig would be up.
The other problem I had was that I have a PI phone. If she calls that phone she can see if it is on or not. I got caught that way twice with other women.
X
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avoiding the gf
Yes she knows you're in the PI when she can call your phone no. and it rings. What I do is to purchase another SIM chip only for the girl I'm with. It's only a couple of bucks. Then you're presumably "out of the country" for anyone who calls your regular number.
[QUOTE=X Man]Good advice from Flip Mo,
You can have plenty of fun in MLA before you go to AC.
I did the same thing in Dec. I was with my girl and she wanted to see the pic in my passport. Then she started looking at visas and a chill went up my spine. I grabbed it back....yikes....if she had seen the arrival date in my passport, the jig would be up.
The other problem I had was that I have a PI phone. If she calls that phone she can see if it is on or not. I got caught that way twice with other women.
X[/QUOTE]
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cell phones
When I visit phills next I am visiting 4 of my "girl freinds", trouble is they like me to text them all the time wheither I am in england or phills, can anyone tell me how to stop letting them see from my text that I am in the phills already as I beleive the text record tells them its a smart. Globe, call, and then my game is up! , or I have to think of more bola bola.
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Cell phone shuffle
[QUOTE=Any Hole]When I visit phills next I am visiting 4 of my "girl freinds", trouble is they like me to text them all the time wheither I am in england or phills, can anyone tell me how to stop letting them see from my text that I am in the phills already as I beleive the text record tells them its a smart. Globe, call, and then my game is up! , or I have to think of more bola bola.[/QUOTE]
Try this one: When you get to the Phils next time, Get your self an extra cell phone and at least two different SIM packs either globe or smart, dont matter. These will all be 0920 ...something eleven digits in all. Once you activate the phones here you can use them and switch the SIMS as you see fit, different numbers to different girls, or one for "regular GF's, one number for BG's etc. Then you can place the phones on ROAM,easy to do and you can get instruction for it when you get the SIMS. Only thing is YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE PHILS TO ACTIVATE the roam feature which allows you to text back and forth to the Phils. THE GIRLS WILL UNDERSTAND THIS, just tell them what you are doing.
If you are in England,(Or any number of other countries) you can text her for fifteen pesos, she can reply for one peso. SHE cannot tell where you are coz the numbers still the same and you tell her you put it on ROAM before you "left". You will have to load up your SIMS with several cards ) P300 each.
Good luck.
Spamhog
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[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Try this one: When you get to the Phils next time, Get your self an extra cell phone and at least two different SIM packs either globe or smart, dont matter. These will all be 0920 ...something eleven digits in all. Once you activate the phones here you can use them and switch the SIMS as you see fit, different numbers to different girls, or one for "regular GF's, one number for BG's etc. Then you can place the phones on ROAM,easy to do and you can get instruction for it when you get the SIMS. Only thing is YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE PHILS TO ACTIVATE the roam feature which allows you to text back and forth to the Phils. THE GIRLS WILL UNDERSTAND THIS, just tell them what you are doing.
If you are in England,(Or any number of other countries) you can text her for fifteen pesos, she can reply for one peso. SHE cannot tell where you are coz the numbers still the same and you tell her you put it on ROAM before you "left". You will have to load up your SIMS with several cards ) P300 each.
Good luck.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
In the US, it's 20p per text on Smart for sure and IIRC for Globe. At about $0.40 per text, I find it's cheaper to use my US mobile for texting to the Phils while my gf's text me on my Smart. I know they won't text me on the US mobile because that will cost them 15p for each text. And yes, whether it's Smart or Globe, you need to activate the International Roaming before you leave the Phils.
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Jeez guys! It's cheaper to get new GF's verses new SIM cards and phones. I rarely see the same girls when I'm in the Philippines. Not even the exceptional ones. I made that mistake in the past and have learned not to do it again, because you have to build your vacation around meeting the several different girls you might be seeing, and that waste valuable mongering time. There are just too many other opportunities out there to pass up. Be honest with girls when you meet them and tell them up-front that your not looking for a GF. Trust me, they will hang with you anyway.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
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Not looking for a GF
this is good advice yella, but maybe some of us are looking for a gf. my last trip i "tasted" (as they say) seven women, and only two were p4p.
one, the manila girl, is exceptional. early 20s, regular girl with a job, extremely good looking, speaks and chats intelligently and seems to be quite okay with marathon sex sessions.
my problem is i'm really stuck on this one, and she claims to be stuck on me. could someone give me a good bittch slap? i need it.
x
chatting with her as i write this...the topic is sex and she writes....
"ok! we will just rest if someone is going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]"
[quote=yella man]jeez guys! it's cheaper to get new gf's verses new sim cards and phones. i rarely see the same girls when i'm in the philippines. not even the exceptional ones. i made that mistake in the past and have learned not to do it again, because you have to build your vacation around meeting the several different girls you might be seeing, and that waste valuable mongering time. there are just too many other opportunities out there to pass up. be honest with girls when you meet them and tell them up-front that your not looking for a gf. trust me, they will hang with you anyway.
always on the quest
yella man[/quote]
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Define "Girlfriend"
[quote=x man]this is good advice yella, but maybe some of us are looking for a gf. my last trip i "tasted" (as they say) seven women, and only two were p4p.
one, the manila girl, is exceptional. early 20s, regular girl with a job, extremely good looking, speaks and chats intelligently and seems to be quite okay with marathon sex sessions.
my problem is i'm really stuck on this one, and she claims to be stuck on me. could someone give me a good bittch slap? i need it.
x
chatting with her as i write this...the topic is sex and she writes....
"ok! we will just rest if someone is going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]"[/quote]
first, yella man does have a good point, but, also consider that at times, if you find women of quality (or ones you just love to bang) keeping them on your electronic leash of a cell phone has its points. i used to have lots of "old friends" in the pi for whom i would call or text a day or two before arrival, depending on what geographic region i was in, i knew that a nice tight one would be waiting, one i knew and "tasted" before, important (for me) is that i trusted her from previous experience and knew what to expect as well as a time saving measure. one can always find new to add to your traveling harem and delicately shuffling sim cards etc is a good way to ensure your privacy, even if you explain to them you are not in a committed relationship. you can be sure that some of them do the same, shuffle sim's, alternate online names how many guys does she have calling her? you would be suprised how honest some of them are if you are honest with them. as i used to ask them...define "girlfriend" (or boyfriend), not fiance, not husband/wife.
xman, i think i saw that girl your talking about, (sunflower?) if so, she was a little cutie, i thought kinda young but.....anyhow i say proceed with caution, they all say they are "stuck" on you. (refer to previous about defining girlfriend) but always remember that sexual compatability is an important part of a relationship, sooner or later one comes along......
regards
spamhog
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Phone Shuffle
Thanks for your reply, I think I have found another answer a Skype phone.
I have ordered this skype wifi phone so I can be anywhere in the world which has a wifi area and make the text or call from that phone, and it will only show my skype number.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Try this one: When you get to the Phils next time, Get your self an extra cell phone and at least two different SIM packs either globe or smart, dont matter. These will all be 0920 ...something eleven digits in all. Once you activate the phones here you can use them and switch the SIMS as you see fit, different numbers to different girls, or one for "regular GF's, one number for BG's etc. Then you can place the phones on ROAM,easy to do and you can get instruction for it when you get the SIMS. Only thing is YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE PHILS TO ACTIVATE the roam feature which allows you to text back and forth to the Phils. THE GIRLS WILL UNDERSTAND THIS, just tell them what you are doing.
If you are in England,(Or any number of other countries) you can text her for fifteen pesos, she can reply for one peso. SHE cannot tell where you are coz the numbers still the same and you tell her you put it on ROAM before you "left". You will have to load up your SIMS with several cards ) P300 each.
Good luck.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
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But she REALLY loves me! :-)
Thanks for the message SH,
Yes, I was referring to the Sunflower girl. Hmm, I think of her more as the foxy type, rather than the cute type. "kinda young"? Well, half my age, but certainly old enough. I'll just introduce her as my daughter.
Someday you'll have to tell me how Ms. SH was able to snag you. Or better yet, let Ms. SH interrogate my girl in order to determine her suitability -- that would be interesting.
Increasingly I've done what you suggest in your post. Keep in touch with ladies from my past, and play the field at the same time. I think I'm long overdue for an extra SIM card.
I still haven't collected all my notes from my Dec/Jan trip in order to post some messages. Work looks to get less busy after tomorrow, so maybe that will happen soon.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Xman, I think I saw that girl your talking about, (Sunflower?) If so, she was a little cutie, I thought kinda young but.....Anyhow I say proceed with caution, they all say they are "Stuck" on you. (refer to previous about defining Girlfriend) but always remember that sexual compatability is an important part of a relationship, sooner or later one comes along......
Regards
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
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For X man et al considering "The Plunge"
Interesting choice of words, "snagged" like a big trophy trout and reeled in eh? HAH! I like that, question is who snagged who? Anyhow, I thought I would give you an honest answer, I'll try not to belabor the point as it can get kinda boring. But as to why we BOTH decided on each other was a number of factors. First, I was introduced by someone I had a measure of trust in, I was briefed on her as she was no doubt briefed on me. All the basics were there, the personality etc and we got along well and we were both realistic about our expectations. She didn't hit me up for money during our courtship, she worked but was "underpaid" like all of 'em and could have used it, but she never asked for a peso. There were, however, TWO DECIDING FACTORS.
I know you somewhat Xman and you been around the block, you have had enough contact with the Asian lady of various races, personalities, types and a variety of experience to know what you want. So did I, but more important SO DID SHE, I place a LOT of emphasis on this one as her life experience at that point (she was 30) developed her into very practical, realistic person. Dare I say made her strong. The person you are at thirty is the person you are gonna be for the rest of your life. This is one reason why I CONSTANTLY CAUTION the brethern who are looking for serious relationships against women who are too young.
Second, the MOST IMPORTANT is she was totally honest with me, withheld nothing about her past, present etc, details about her relationships and her integrity was PROVEN to me in a number of ways. She had to earn my trust, and beleive me I checked and tested it. But she also taught me a few lessons about honesty so that for one of the first times in my life I was totally honest with a woman, she didn't like some of what she heard but she accepted it and also vice versa.
We trust each other and we hide no secrets, past or present.
Understand that the perfect Filipina doesn't exist no more than the perfect woman exists, same for the perfect man, etc. But rather is this person on the same wave length as you, will she change after you are 'snagged' or is what you see what you get (Maturity, integrity, character) most of all, can you trust her and CAN SHE TRUST YOU.
The little devil that constantly sits on my shoulder and whispers in my ear and
sometimes jabs that red hot pitchfork of his in my balls as I live amongst this sea of pussy is always gonna be there, but I don't pay much attention to him. Now if you can find one like that and she passes muster, that is what you want for a committed relationship.
You would be wise to find someone you trust who does know her and compare notes, BUT you gotta consider the source. BE CAUTIOUS and verify everything!
Regards
Spamhog
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Great post from SH
It's late and I'm tired...so just a quick reply to the post from SH.
Never found any of your posts "belaboring", nor boring in any way. Some great info in this last post and gives me (us) a few more things to think about.
Thanks, X
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[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Interesting choice of words, "snagged" like a big trophy trout and reeled in eh? HAH! I like that, question is who snagged who? Anyhow, I thought I would give you an honest answer, I'll try not to belabor the point as it can get kinda boring. But as to why we BOTH decided on each other was a number of factors. First, I was introduced by someone I had a measure of trust in, I was briefed on her as she was no doubt briefed on me. All the basics were there, the personality etc and we got along well and we were both realistic about our expectations. She didn't hit me up for money during our courtship, she worked but was "underpaid" like all of 'em and could have used it, but she never asked for a peso. There were, however, TWO DECIDING FACTORS.
I know you somewhat Xman and you been around the block, you have had enough contact with the Asian lady of various races, personalities, types and a variety of experience to know what you want. So did I, but more important SO DID SHE, I place a LOT of emphasis on this one as her life experience at that point (she was 30) developed her into very practical, realistic person. Dare I say made her strong. The person you are at thirty is the person you are gonna be for the rest of your life. This is one reason why I CONSTANTLY CAUTION the brethern who are looking for serious relationships against women who are too young.
Second, the MOST IMPORTANT is she was totally honest with me, withheld nothing about her past, present etc, details about her relationships and her integrity was PROVEN to me in a number of ways. She had to earn my trust, and beleive me I checked and tested it. But she also taught me a few lessons about honesty so that for one of the first times in my life I was totally honest with a woman, she didn't like some of what she heard but she accepted it and also vice versa.
We trust each other and we hide no secrets, past or present.
Understand that the perfect Filipina doesn't exist no more than the perfect woman exists, same for the perfect man, etc. But rather is this person on the same wave length as you, will she change after you are 'snagged' or is what you see what you get (Maturity, integrity, character) most of all, can you trust her and CAN SHE TRUST YOU.
The little devil that constantly sits on my shoulder and whispers in my ear and
sometimes jabs that red hot pitchfork of his in my balls as I live amongst this sea of pussy is always gonna be there, but I don't pay much attention to him. Now if you can find one like that and she passes muster, that is what you want for a committed relationship.
You would be wise to find someone you trust who does know her and compare notes, BUT you gotta consider the source. BE CAUTIOUS and verify everything!
Regards
Spamhog[/QUOTE]Please remember most guys here do not take the little gal home.When a girl knows she can travel with her asawa to his country she gets a peace of mind feeling.When a girl knows she is here married or just girlfriend she knows every second she can be traded in.Thats a fact.
The girls know about the temtation here from others and sometimes the ones closes to them try to get on the ATM.Compitition here is high amoung the girls and most guys want younger and younger.When they get the "I DO" they know that is not a lifelong closed chapter for there book of life.They know they must try and keep there man under observation most of the time.Trust takes time to build with us and them.I am sure every girlfriend and wife of every guy knows why the guy goes to angeles, and why he comes home late in most cases it's not because he worked late at the office.
The good gals want good honest guys and we want the same.Thats what life is about, honesty.Is it hard to trust here yes it is, hard at home sure, but you will find what you want in both places if you look long enough.
SH, has a nice wife and he is a good guy also.I have had the pleasure of his company on my visit to CEBU.I am sure his advise if followed will get a person heading in the right direction.It makes a difference what you do here if you want to play thats easy.If you want a lifelong partner you have to test them and invest the time.I am also sure you can't mix the two togeather without some problems.Afterall why take the big step if you are happy messing around.The answer is messing around get old and most of us want a good gal to spoil and love just like they want a good man.
B.B...
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Bb?
Wow, was that post from BB? I guess you're not as ornery as I thought!
I wish I had more time to spend with this lady, but I do not live in the Philippines. I can visit the Philippines up to three times a year, so I'll get more time with her. Unfortunately, I find it very hard (no pun intended) to remain monogamous while in the Philippines. As BB rightly points out, this will likely come back and bite me.
Thanks for the great advice guys. X
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Please remember most guys here do not take the little gal home.When a girl knows she can travel with her asawa to his country she gets a peace of mind feeling.When a girl knows she is here married or just girlfriend she knows every second she can be traded in.Thats a fact.
The girls know about the temtation here from others and sometimes the ones closes to them try to get on the ATM.Compitition here is high amoung the girls and most guys want younger and younger.When they get the "I DO" they know that is not a lifelong closed chapter for there book of life.They know they must try and keep there man under observation most of the time.Trust takes time to build with us and them.I am sure every girlfriend and wife of every guy knows why the guy goes to angeles, and why he comes home late in most cases it's not because he worked late at the office.
The good gals want good honest guys and we want the same.Thats what life is about, honesty.Is it hard to trust here yes it is, hard at home sure, but you will find what you want in both places if you look long enough.
SH, has a nice wife and he is a good guy also.I have had the pleasure of his company on my visit to CEBU.I am sure his advise if followed will get a person heading in the right direction.It makes a difference what you do here if you want to play thats easy.If you want a lifelong partner you have to test them and invest the time.I am also sure you can't mix the two togeather without some problems.Afterall why take the big step if you are happy messing around.The answer is messing around get old and most of us want a good gal to spoil and love just like they want a good man.
B.B...[/QUOTE]
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Havn't been to this board in quite a while, but I'll add my 2 cents.
I've been to the Philippines a few times now and met many, many girls. However I do not consider myself an expert and have no desire to give advice. This is just my experience and my opinion.
Most girls there don't have any idea what it is to be American, or a westerner. We're almost like a faery tale come to life for a lot of them. As such they'll see you in a number of different lights. Most of them dream of marrying a westerner for a number of reasons, high among them being financial security. This is hardly a filipina only trait, I think all women are drawn to a man who is financially secure to some point.
But obviously, most of the time they have the sense to know that you have a lot of options there, and they're not going to push that point, maybe for fear of rejection? Or maybe I just got it in my head that they all want to marry me. Maybe that place has done bad things to my ego:). Anyway, being different also makes you into a trophy of sorts. The amount of attention I've gotten while having a girl with me already far exceeds any other factor. It was like I was the focal point of determining the hierarchy among 2 or more girls.
Still, I consider this low class behavior. Maybe its just me. I'm sure you can see the potential for fun though.
I've had a completely different experience though. I met one of the 'good girls'. In Mindanao (not Davao, closer to Cagayan de Oro) no less, the evil realm of Abu Sayaf.
I won't go into details about this girl, but I will give you an idea of my experience. She's a lady, like no one I've met here in America, though I'm sure they're here too. Her english is better than most Americans I know, she's intelligent, she's kind, etc etc. Am I being played? Its possible. But I've known her for a long time now and she's survived all of my 'tests'.
I don't know. I'm only 24. I don't know where I'll go with this, and sometimes I feel like I might be in over my head. But I would take a girl like this over a million ho's. I may be mistaken, and end up just being a huge sucker, and having another one of those 'learning experiences' we all hate so much and never seem to learn from (I don't anyway). As of right now, though, all I can say is if you really want a relationship, and you can handle tampo, the good ones are out there. But you have to do some digging.
And if you get your heart broken, there's plenty of filipinas who would love nothing more than to cheer you up.
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About Pinoy Girls in Bangkok
I recently sent a few introductory messages to Cherry Blossom girls, without knowing that the girls were actually Pinoys working in BKK. Almost ALL of the Pinoys responded back and said that they are teachers or they are in education in BKK.
Could this be true? Or are they in BKK illegally (overstayed tourist visa?) and freelancing? Does Thailand need that many Pinoy educators?
Does anyone have any experience in dealing with the Pinoys in BKK?
May be this is not the right forum to ask this question. But, I will attempt another post in Thailand forum as well.
MD
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Xtorted Delay
Follow your heart son - at 24 you've got time on your side and life is about making mistakes and most importantly learning from them! You've really got nothing to lose - if it works out good luck to you! If it doesn't its not the end of the world and at 24 you've got lots of new women waiting for you!! As the saying goes - you will be older and wiser for the experience!
Good luck
Cheers
Pete
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Pinays in Thailand
Yes, I am aware of a few family members of friends who are working in Thailand teaching English. The Thai's want to do a lot of international busines, but have problems w/Engrish.
Think about it, why would someone pay to import a pinay to work as a pro, when so much is available in the countryside?
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Pinays in LOS
[QUOTE=Muf Diver]I recently sent a few introductory messages to Cherry Blossom girls, without knowing that the girls were actually Pinoys working in BKK. Almost ALL of the Pinoys responded back and said that they are teachers or they are in education in BKK.
Could this be true? Or are they in BKK illegally (overstayed tourist visa?) and freelancing? Does Thailand need that many Pinoy educators?
Does anyone have any experience in dealing with the Pinoys in BKK?
May be this is not the right forum to ask this question. But, I will attempt another post in Thailand forum as well.
MD[/QUOTE]
Yes one can find Pinay is LOS, and just about every other Asia country,(Hk and Malaysia is loaded with 'em) Yes they do teach school, the Phils produced truckloads of teachers as well as nurses, the two skilled professions primarily expated. I lived in Phuket and there was a school that acredited TESL and gave them the cert they needed. The Thais are eager to learn English as that is a mark of intelligence and a better job.
I honestly didn't pay much attention to Filipinas in LOS, too busy with the local variety, never heard of 'em "flatbacking" for extra income, not to say they might not. Anyhow, look under general thread where another member and I got into a theoretical discussion over the merits of importing poon to LOS, I don't think it would fly, to many local pros.
regards
Spamhog
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Opinion about bringing a Pinay to Singapore
I have been corresponding to an employed philipina (with a child) for about 2 years. I don"t have time on this trip to go to Manila to meet her. She is an employed girl, but always short of money. She had asked me to send her money twice, and I had refused.
I have met her and seen her on camera on many occassions on MSN or Yahoo chat, after setting up a chat date. But, I have not physically met her.
She is willing to meet me on my next trip to Singapore, as my trip is only 4 days long. She has agreed to stay with me while in Singapore as it would cost me nothing for her stay other than her meals and the plane ticket.
What are the pitfalls of this reunion(!) in Singapore? What are your esteemed warnings?
Steven
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Hmmmmmmmm??????
[QUOTE=Muf Diver]I have been corresponding to an employed philipina (with a child) for about 2 years. I don"t have time on this trip to go to Manila to meet her. She is an employed girl, but always short of money. She had asked me to send her money twice, and I had refused.
I have met her and seen her on camera on many occassions on MSN or Yahoo chat, after setting up a chat date. But, I have not physically met her.
She is willing to meet me on my next trip to Singapore, as my trip is only 4 days long. She has agreed to stay with me while in Singapore as it would cost me nothing for her stay other than her meals and the plane ticket.
What are the pitfalls of this reunion(!) in Singapore? What are your esteemed warnings?
Steven[/QUOTE]
Lemme see here if I got this right, sweetie works in MANILA(?) And wants you to send her plane fare (GOT to be round trip under Phil Law.) and cover the cost of her trip to Singapore after asking you several times for supplemental income? Does she have a passport? No? Gonna cost you about $100 Us for that, then she needs about $30 to leave the country, then some spending money for entry fee to Singapore plus cab fare hmmm, this is kinda adding up here. So to buy this "pig in a poke" sorry no pun intended, your going to lay out about $700-800 US, with no guarentee she is going to show.
If she Does show, suppose you dont like her in person or shes a lousy lay? Now you are saddled with this woman who you dont really like and doesn't suck a dick or something and brother, Singapore loaded with frisky sexy women, Thais, Loads of Filipina maids, cute little Malays and aloof but horny as hell Singa CHinese.
Something you better realize about Singapore, THEY SCRUTINIZE LONE FEMALES ENTERING THE COUNTRY, if she dont have a work permit and she cant open her purse and show credit cards, travelers checks and a lot of money, they WILL KICK HER OUT. I HAVE SEEN THIS!!!!!!!! I used to regularly take the flight from BKK to Singa and they would waylay Thai girls and give 'em the third degree, sometimes they would refuse entry, same with Filipinas. WHY?
Well Freelancers come in to Sing close to the weekend, go hit Geylang or the Orchid towers (4 floors of *****s as we used to say) or work the hotels and make big bucks humping all the rich businessmen then high tail it back to Jungleland.
Im just telling you the pit falls thats all.
Im NOT saying she will be a no show but Vegas odds makers say she comes up with a sick kid at the last minute and can't make it...sorry about your plane fare, spent it on a Doctor. Rule of thumb is you never give 'em money unless you've met them face to face, know something about them, where they live, size 'em up AND, most important: YOU LIKE HER.
Good luck
Also SIngapore is Expensive, taking a companion around is gonna get pricey.
Spamhog
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2 years
SH has brought up some points that surely disappoint you -- despite their validity.
Nevertheless, I have a buddy who sent a bar girl money for air fare to Thailand. (He had met her face-to-face / genital-to-genital). One of the list's legends - Cebu Local - suggested the chances of her showing up were extraordinarily slim.
It was a happy ending. She showed up. And it's likely he's in Cebu now bonking her once again.
X
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Muf, Spam makes some valid points. There is a way around things, which is to buy an electronic ticket with your credit card, in such a manner that it is only refundable to your own credit card account. Then of course, make sure she is fully aware of that situation. That said, she might have problems entering SIN without a sufficient amount of cash in her wallet, so you might have to send her that, in addition to the passport money, and departure tax. When all is said and done, that might be all she is looking for, and she is onto the next guy. OR, she shows up, and you have a great time.
Many girls spend their whole day, or night online, chatting up guys, and look at it as a long term investment. Remember, all they need is to clear about 100-150US$ per month to make it worth their while. So if they are in chat rooms, meeting new guys on a regular basis, then they can get one or two guys to send 100$ in a month, they are netting more than if they were waitresses, or worse, factory workers.
I met a girl in Thailand who had a small book full of guys names, their birthdates, names of kids, what their jobs were, when was the last time they met, name of hotel they stayed in, restaurants they went to, so when she chatted with them, she could refer to all the fun things they had done on the guys last visit. this girl was good, and pulled in about 700-800US$ a month, and rarely had to get on her back, except when one of her guys came into town.
So, it could very well be all she is looking for is the money necessary to make it look good for customs at SIN. if you send her 200$ for customs, 100$ for a passport, and 30$ departure tax, she has done well.
Not trying to flame, I actually hope it works out, just throwing it out there for thoughts and comments.
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[QUOTE=Muf Diver]I have been corresponding to an employed philipina (with a child) for about 2 years. I don"t have time on this trip to go to Manila to meet her. She is an employed girl, but always short of money. She had asked me to send her money twice, and I had refused.
..Steven[/QUOTE]
Hope you have had time to be in Manila, if not you might miss some important :)
Some of my experiences: I had contact with a girl for 3 years. Last time we met, I bought here expensive cellphone as a gift. Back home I asked her for a small favour in Manila, but she could not do without more money. Even I knew she was earning some, she obviously wasn't willing to "invest" in me. After that I cut all contact, although she keep sending me 5-6 mails and phones me 3-4 times back home.
Lesson? They really are proffs in asking money. Test out if she will invest in you before you get to much involved.
BTW, I have another one now beeing "so in love with me". Cherrygirl stopped working in bar, after I gav here a quite nice present. She want me to meet her family and all that. I realize this could be her way "out of hell". For me a temptation so hard to resist, wondering which head shall decide my actions...
Ok, what I mean, go to Manila as soon as possible, have fun, live life !
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Flights
You can get cheep flights out of clark Angeles for singapore. Tiger airways for 20 u.s.dollars one way.I know because I booked online for that price.Do some checking and you can travel for cheep money from the P.I.
B.B.
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Chapter 9: What the!
I would like to unabashedly confess my stupidity for the sake of discussion and perhaps a lesson or two to be learned.
Like so many others here that admit it or not, I have on occasion barebacked a bar girl. I am not here to justify or condemn this practice, my story is to simply state the possible consequences of such actions.
This story begins with a bar girl named Veronica who I met at Nero’s Forum and had spent three consecutive days with. I reported briefly on this girl earlier in the Angeles section. Although she was fun and I genuinely enjoyed her company, she was getting too attached too quickly so I stopped seeing her.
Fast forward three and a half weeks later.
I went to Nero’s one night and there she is, she looks great, is no longer pouting and is actually a lot of fun so I barfine her. We got a bite to eat at Kokomo’s and we were both having a great time, that is, until she rather nonchalantly tells me she is pregnant and I am (of course) the father! To say that this put a damper on the evening would be a complete understatement!
She tells me that she took a pregnancy test a few days earlier with the help of her housekeeper, (why a housekeeper’s advice is trusted and revered is beyond me). Now, keep in mind that even on my short trip I had seen so many single mothers in Angeles City with no support from the fathers, either foreign or Filipino. Although to be fair, it may be possible under these situations that a foreigner father doesn’t even know he has sired a child. However, the end result is still the same, a single mother that is dirt poor raising a child in an overpopulated third world country. I always said to myself that I would never be one of those guys that consciously abandoned a child or a pregnant mother; I had the simple desire to do the right thing, whatever that might be.
As my head was still spinning with all of these revelations, she then informs me that she took a drug called Cytotec the day before, which from what I understand, is a medication for stomach ulcers that has a certain nasty side effect that will make a pregnant woman have a spontaneous miscarriage. I believe this drug is commonly used by bar girls as an abortion pill.
I came up with a plan, the next morning we would find a doctor; get a real informed opinion on her alleged pregnancy and her medical condition if she really did take some kind of abortion pill. I wanted to be able to make decisions based on facts and not just the word and speculation of a bar girl and her housekeeper. For my part, I would of course pay for any medical bills regardless of the outcome or the diagnosis and I reassured her that I would be there with her from beginning to end. I thought this was a great plan, that is, until she flatly refused to go!
She gave some story about she was afraid of doctors and blah, blah, blah. So here I was faced with this situation where I was determined to do the right thing but was at the total mercy of this girl. Thus began one of the worst days of my life with me trying to reason with a young girl with the mentality of an immature five year old. I tried to reason with her, tried to be the good guy, tried to be the bad guy but she just wouldn’t budge. Finally after about 10 hours of this nonsense she said she wanted to go see her mother in Manila where she promised she would see a doctor. At this point, this idea seemed the best way for me to simply wash my hands of this situation; let her mother deal with this. So I gave her 7,000 pesos to go home and get the help she needed. I of course realize that this whole story could have been a fabrication from the start, but for me the 7,000 pesos eased my conscience to some degree for the slim possibility that she could have been telling the truth.
She did return a few days later with a story of going to the doctor who gave the diagnosis that she was no longer pregnant and there were no ill effects of her taking this Cytotic. The doctor prescribed some medication and said she would be fine, the doctor and pharmacy bills conveniently cost the amount of what I gave her. I did not want to have anything to do with her so I kept her at a distance the rest of my time in Angeles despite her numerous calls and text messages.
In looking back at this I can say that I handled this situation rather poorly, clearly there would be a lot of things I would do differently if I could. Upon reflection, I don’t think she was ever pregnant, I believe she made up this story for one or more of the following reasons:
1. She wanted a foreigner boyfriend and this was some psychotic way to trap one.
2. She wanted attention. She was queen for a day when she found a sucker like me!
3. She wanted a moneyko. That is, this was all a ruse to get some money out of some poor sap who didn’t know any better. In my case, it worked.
4. She was bored and I made for some good entertainment, plus she had a great story to tell all of her girlfriends back at the bar.
If only I had worn that condom.
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It Your Baby!
[QUOTE=Sagramore]I would like to unabashedly confess my stupidity for the sake of discussion and perhaps a lesson or two to be learned.
Like so many others here that admit it or not, I have on occasion barebacked a bar girl. I am not here to justify or condemn this practice, my story is to simply state the possible consequences of such actions.
This story begins with a bar girl named Veronica who I met at Nero’s Forum and had spent three consecutive days with. I reported briefly on this girl earlier in the Angeles section. Although she was fun and I genuinely enjoyed her company, she was getting too attached too quickly so I stopped seeing her.
Fast forward three and a half weeks later.
I went to Nero’s one night and there she is, she looks great, is no longer pouting and is actually a lot of fun so I barfine her. We got a bite to eat at Kokomo’s and we were both having a great time, that is, until she rather nonchalantly tells me she is pregnant and I am (of course) the father! To say that this put a damper on the evening would be a complete understatement!
She tells me that she took a pregnancy test a few days earlier with the help of her housekeeper, (why a housekeeper’s advice is trusted and revered is beyond me). Now, keep in mind that even on my short trip I had seen so many single mothers in Angeles City with no support from the fathers, either foreign or Filipino. Although to be fair, it may be possible under these situations that a foreigner father doesn’t even know he has sired a child. However, the end result is still the same, a single mother that is dirt poor raising a child in an overpopulated third world country. I always said to myself that I would never be one of those guys that consciously abandoned a child or a pregnant mother; I had the simple desire to do the right thing, whatever that might be.
As my head was still spinning with all of these revelations, she then informs me that she took a drug called Cytotec the day before, which from what I understand, is a medication for stomach ulcers that has a certain nasty side effect that will make a pregnant woman have a spontaneous miscarriage. I believe this drug is commonly used by bar girls as an abortion pill.
I came up with a plan, the next morning we would find a doctor; get a real informed opinion on her alleged pregnancy and her medical condition if she really did take some kind of abortion pill. I wanted to be able to make decisions based on facts and not just the word and speculation of a bar girl and her housekeeper. For my part, I would of course pay for any medical bills regardless of the outcome or the diagnosis and I reassured her that I would be there with her from beginning to end. I thought this was a great plan, that is, until she flatly refused to go!
She gave some story about she was afraid of doctors and blah, blah, blah. So here I was faced with this situation where I was determined to do the right thing but was at the total mercy of this girl. Thus began one of the worst days of my life with me trying to reason with a young girl with the mentality of an immature five year old. I tried to reason with her, tried to be the good guy, tried to be the bad guy but she just wouldn’t budge. Finally after about 10 hours of this nonsense she said she wanted to go see her mother in Manila where she promised she would see a doctor. At this point, this idea seemed the best way for me to simply wash my hands of this situation; let her mother deal with this. So I gave her 7,000 pesos to go home and get the help she needed. I of course realize that this whole story could have been a fabrication from the start, but for me the 7,000 pesos eased my conscience to some degree for the slim possibility that she could have been telling the truth.
She did return a few days later with a story of going to the doctor who gave the diagnosis that she was no longer pregnant and there were no ill effects of her taking this Cytotic. The doctor prescribed some medication and said she would be fine, the doctor and pharmacy bills conveniently cost the amount of what I gave her. I did not want to have anything to do with her so I kept her at a distance the rest of my time in Angeles despite her numerous calls and text messages.
In looking back at this I can say that I handled this situation rather poorly, clearly there would be a lot of things I would do differently if I could. Upon reflection, I don’t think she was ever pregnant, I believe she made up this story for one or more of the following reasons:
1. She wanted a foreigner boyfriend and this was some psychotic way to trap one.
2. She wanted attention. She was queen for a day when she found a sucker like me!
3. She wanted a moneyko. That is, this was all a ruse to get some money out of some poor sap who didn’t know any better. In my case, it worked.
4. She was bored and I made for some good entertainment, plus she had a great story to tell all of her girlfriends back at the bar.
If only I had worn that condom.[/QUOTE]
Believe me,this is a very very old trick the girls in the Phils often try and is a scam for a quick buck. Your forum posting is similar to many others that have appeared. Best drop the girl and move on. If you really feel emotional about it then:
1) Tell her no discussion, you must go to a doctor with her. If she really is pregnant, ask the doctor when the baby birth is expected. Work back nine months and see if you were penetrating her at that time. If she is not pregnant or if the timing does not coincide with you penetrating her, tell her to take a hike.
2) If the date is not clear, or if she says she has a kid that is yours, take a few hair samples and send them with yours to a DNA test company in the US. If they do not match, it is best if she goes back to her Filipino or other foreigner who got into her and seeded her.
You obviously fell for the scam at a much earlier stage.
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Spam Hog
This was just what I needed to read. This site saved me from another bogus "nice lady".
"Second, the MOST IMPORTANT is she was totally honest with me, withheld nothing about her past, present etc, details about her relationships and her integrity was PROVEN to me in a number of ways. She had to earn my trust, and beleive me I checked and tested it. But she also taught me a few lessons about honesty so that for one of the first times in my life I was totally honest with a woman, she didn't like some of what she heard but she accepted it and also vice versa. "
-Spam Hog
I tried so hard to be sure she knew that honesty was vital, and she agreed. I tried to keep my eyes open and saw a LOAD of BS after some time. But not before she got her hooks in me deep, I love(d?) her very much. This is a Thai lady. Someone I've known for years introduced us too. This lady being soo deceptive caught me completely off-guard brothers.
So be warned, Thai ladies can make you believe anything they want. And I thought I'd been around the block enough to see this coming.
So my P4P days are over and I still want an open, honest relationship to wind out my life. My burning questions;
1) Are Pinoys more honest -as I've read before
2) Where do you look, and NOT look ie; web dating
3) How do you guys "test" their honesty?
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Some thoughts
[QUOTE=Catmonger]This was just what I needed to read. This site saved me from another bogus "nice lady".
"Second, the MOST IMPORTANT is she was totally honest with me, withheld nothing about her past, present etc, details about her relationships and her integrity was PROVEN to me in a number of ways. She had to earn my trust, and beleive me I checked and tested it. But she also taught me a few lessons about honesty so that for one of the first times in my life I was totally honest with a woman, she didn't like some of what she heard but she accepted it and also vice versa. "
-Spam Hog
I tried so hard to be sure she knew that honesty was vital, and she agreed. I tried to keep my eyes open and saw a LOAD of BS after some time. But not before she got her hooks in me deep, I love(d?) her very much. This is a Thai lady. Someone I've known for years introduced us too. This lady being soo deceptive caught me completely off-guard brothers.
So be warned, Thai ladies can make you believe anything they want. And I thought I'd been around the block enough to see this coming.
So my P4P days are over and I still want an open, honest relationship to wind out my life. My burning questions;
1) Are Pinoys more honest -as I've read before
2) Where do you look, and NOT look ie; web dating
3) How do you guys "test" their honesty?[/QUOTE]
First I'm glad that my thoughts helped "save" someone from further dismay in a bad relationship.
Second, if you follow some of my postings, you will know that I CONSTANTLY preach against Thai women for anything other than a purely sexual relationship. I lived in LOS for awhile, I speak the Language rather well and this of course colored my opinion. But I have found them to be especially deceitful, secretive etc., THEY DID NOT LIKE THE FACT I SPOKE THEIR LANGUAGE!!!! This applies MORESO to "regular girls" than bar girls.
Now to answer your questions:
Women are women no matter where you go, I find women to be more secretive in general about their past due to societal standards.
1. Filipina seem to be more honest than Thai (and some other Asian women, Malay, Chinese Viets). This does not mean that they will not BS you. The very first Filipina to break my heart (awwwwwww) was a doozy. she was well employed in Taiwan, working there under a false passport, already married in the Phils and looking for a sucker to get her back to the Phils gratis (me) almost anyway, found her out. Point I'm trying to make is that Phil ladies are like any other, (see societal standards) which intheir case mandates a women should be a virginuntil married, chaste otherwise and "maria Clara-like)
Maria Clara being a demure Spanish lady the Epitome of Purity peity etc.
I see plenty of examples of deceitful Filipina, MOST OF THEM ARE BAR GIRLS.
2. Web dating is only a source to meet them, you have to come here to the Phils and see them to determine what they are REALLY LIKE, I don't think the web site matters, you have to concentrate on WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ONCE YOU MEET THEM ONLINE. After a few chats you will probably see what type of person they are. If they start talking about money, flush 'em. If the say things like "I love, you, I want to be yours and yours alone, you are the only man in my life." etc etc. Flush 'em.
I personally beleive the best way to find a "good one" comes from somebody who recommends her, (This is how I met Mrs Spamhog) knows a bit about her background etc.
3. there are a number of way to "TEST" her, I think I've mentioned before I used to do background checks in conjunction with a PI agency, (I dont anymore please dont ask).
You can "Test" her online real easy, I used to get phony Yahoo ID's (just like they do). Some were really funny, I used to use names of Notorious American outlaws like "William H. Bonney" "Clyde Barrow" etc. I would then chat with her under this alias and see what she said, compare it with what she told the client, or if she would ask for money etc.
Sometimes I would hit her with ..."I'm going to be in (your city) next week, can we meet?" Almost every time I would get a "yes". A few from Women who were engaged etc. You can do this yourself or get one of your friends to using an alias to go online with her, send here a pix etc. Now I would do this ONLY in a situation where you have a "committed" relationship, someone you just met on the internet is not going to have the commitment to you nor should you hold them to such a standard to "wait for you". Basically who ever is first in is gonna get it.
You really have to check out her status once you get here, hanging around her neighborhood will tell you a lot. filipino's love to gossip and repeat "Estorias" so you could ask around or have someone ask around on your behalf about her, Yes you can hire a PI to do an extensive background.
Your biggest concerns are that she is NOT a card holding (GRO) prostitute/bar girl. Not a Criminal or Shabu head (drug addict) Does not have a committed relationship with a Filipino BF (or married!) and not working the internet solely for money.
If she has a lot of internet chatmates and even has met one or two before and it didn't work out don't hold it against her. A "good one" will tell you this (as you should tell her).
Spamhog
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Spamhog
Yes, my experience with Thai ladies is that they are very deceptive. I was not looking for a Thai wife anymore -or anyone- when my buddy and his Thai wife told me about her. I was celebate for a couple years before getting back in the game, so to speak.
I felt ready and was considering Pinoy possibilities when I was given the Thai lady's phone number. Nuf said, lesson learned, and brothers be warned. This girl was smooth as baby diarrhea and had this veteran hound out of his socks. And that aint like me.
I have very little guile by nature and know this, so that's why I asked for the collective wisdom here. Advice here can be very sound in my experience, even beyond P4P tips and tricks. I'll spend time researching here and elsewhere so when I've learned whatever I'm supposed to learn -I wont need to be alone.
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I totally agree with Spamhog. I can give two examples I've seen first hand in my own travels that also might open your eyes.
1. I brought a girl once from Angeles to Manila (yes I know that is like taking sand to the beach) and for the entire weekend she was texting and receiving overseas calls from her 7 (yes seven) boyfriends. She was upfront about what she was doing as I was pretty honest too and told her I didn't care about her significant others. She even let me read her texts and oh man, she had them all strung along pretty good. She should have won an Academy Award.
2. Once while taking a taxi ride in Manila, I noticed several photos in the taxi of a young Filipina with an older Western gentleman and their kid. Just to make conversation I asked the driver if that was his sister. He replied that it was his girlfriend and she was married to a guy in the UK. They have been together since high school and both agreed she should get married to an older foreigner with a lot of money so that when he died they could be together with the funds she would inherit. He said he had no problem waiting for her since they figured the husband wouldn't even last 10 years because of his age and health and by the time they were in their 30's they'd be together again with a big bank account. This totally shocked me but I'm so thankful for the insight of how deceiptful and treacherous some people are. I know this is probably the exception and not the norm, but it should give anyone pause before looking to a third world country for your mate.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]First I'm glad that my thoughts helped "save" someone from further dismay in a bad relationship.
Second, if you follow some of my postings, you will know that I CONSTANTLY preach against Thai women for anything other than a purely sexual relationship. I lived in LOS for awhile, I speak the Language rather well and this of course colored my opinion. But I have found them to be especially deceitful, secretive etc., THEY DID NOT LIKE THE FACT I SPOKE THEIR LANGUAGE!!!! This applies MORESO to "regular girls" than bar girls.
Now to answer your questions:
Women are women no matter where you go, I find women to be more secretive in general about their past due to societal standards.
1. Filipina seem to be more honest than Thai (and some other Asian women, Malay, Chinese Viets). This does not mean that they will not BS you. The very first Filipina to break my heart (awwwwwww) was a doozy. she was well employed in Taiwan, working there under a false passport, already married in the Phils and looking for a sucker to get her back to the Phils gratis (me) almost anyway, found her out. Point I'm trying to make is that Phil ladies are like any other, (see societal standards) which intheir case mandates a women should be a virginuntil married, chaste otherwise and "maria Clara-like)
Maria Clara being a demure Spanish lady the Epitome of Purity peity etc.
I see plenty of examples of deceitful Filipina, MOST OF THEM ARE BAR GIRLS.
2. Web dating is only a source to meet them, you have to come here to the Phils and see them to determine what they are REALLY LIKE, I don't think the web site matters, you have to concentrate on WHAT THEY ARE SAYING ONCE YOU MEET THEM ONLINE. After a few chats you will probably see what type of person they are. If they start talking about money, flush 'em. If the say things like "I love, you, I want to be yours and yours alone, you are the only man in my life." etc etc. Flush 'em.
I personally beleive the best way to find a "good one" comes from somebody who recommends her, (This is how I met Mrs Spamhog) knows a bit about her background etc.
3. there are a number of way to "TEST" her, I think I've mentioned before I used to do background checks in conjunction with a PI agency, (I dont anymore please dont ask).
You can "Test" her online real easy, I used to get phony Yahoo ID's (just like they do). Some were really funny, I used to use names of Notorious American outlaws like "William H. Bonney" "Clyde Barrow" etc. I would then chat with her under this alias and see what she said, compare it with what she told the client, or if she would ask for money etc.
Sometimes I would hit her with ..."I'm going to be in (your city) next week, can we meet?" Almost every time I would get a "yes". A few from Women who were engaged etc. You can do this yourself or get one of your friends to using an alias to go online with her, send here a pix etc. Now I would do this ONLY in a situation where you have a "committed" relationship, someone you just met on the internet is not going to have the commitment to you nor should you hold them to such a standard to "wait for you". Basically who ever is first in is gonna get it.
You really have to check out her status once you get here, hanging around her neighborhood will tell you a lot. filipino's love to gossip and repeat "Estorias" so you could ask around or have someone ask around on your behalf about her, Yes you can hire a PI to do an extensive background.
Your biggest concerns are that she is NOT a card holding (GRO) prostitute/bar girl. Not a Criminal or Shabu head (drug addict) Does not have a committed relationship with a Filipino BF (or married!) and not working the internet solely for money.
If she has a lot of internet chatmates and even has met one or two before and it didn't work out don't hold it against her. A "good one" will tell you this (as you should tell her).
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
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Pay Atention To #2!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]I totally agree with Spamhog. I can give two examples I've seen first hand in my own travels that also might open your eyes.
1. I brought a girl once from Angeles to Manila (yes I know that is like taking sand to the beach) and for the entire weekend she was texting and receiving overseas calls from her 7 (yes seven) boyfriends. She was upfront about what she was doing as I was pretty honest too and told her I didn't care about her significant others. She even let me read her texts and oh man, she had them all strung along pretty good. She should have won an Academy Award.
2. Once while taking a taxi ride in Manila, I noticed several photos in the taxi of a young Filipina with an older Western gentleman and their kid. Just to make conversation I asked the driver if that was his sister. He replied that it was his girlfriend and she was married to a guy in the UK. They have been together since high school and both agreed she should get married to an older foreigner with a lot of money so that when he died they could be together with the funds she would inherit. He said he had no problem waiting for her since they figured the husband wouldn't even last 10 years because of his age and health and by the time they were in their 30's they'd be together again with a big bank account. This totally shocked me but I'm so thankful for the insight of how deceiptful and treacherous some people are. I know this is probably the exception and not the norm, but it should give anyone pause before looking to a third world country for your mate.[/QUOTE]
#2 in Soju's post is something ALL OF US NEED TO READ AND RE-READ!!!!
I have found this thinking to be quite prevelant here. Many YOUNG filipina...read those under 25 (say) REALLY WANT A MUCH OLDER FOREIGNER
to MARRY, preferable a guy in his fifties or even sixiteis, the reason is that they got maybe ten years (like an indentured servitude) with Pops until he croaks and leaves them the money/assets in a foreign land (USA?), then they
are young enough to go find another guy their age or return to their Filipino paramour and live well.
As I write this I am preparing to leave Moalboal, I plan a trip report this week, but I ran across one little place that was built by a Foreigner 12 years ago, guy died a few years back,(heart attack) the widow married a younger Filipino.
Be careful of this in THAILAND, sometimes they kill you (drug overdose).
Spamhog
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Pay Attention to All
I lived in Manila for seven years and saw all of what all of you are saying. It is all true and more.
I was in a hotel one day and happened to sit with a young (20 something) black American man. He told me a hell of a story.
He met a Filipina in one of the chat rooms and she charmed him. They chatted for weeks and months and he began to send money to her. She promised to marry him when he came.
Well, when he showed up at the airport there was a man holding a sign with his name. Thinking she had arranged a car for him he approached the sign carrying man and introduced himself. The man told him, "I am XXXX's husband and she does not want to see you".
The guy left Manila the day after I talked with him
Beware guys! Make it sex only.
ES
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Spam Hog...
Thanks for your very interesting views on the different pitfalls and what to look for.
GF
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Iglesia Ni Cristo
My girlfriend is a member of Iglesia Ni Cristo. The parents and her would love the vows to be exchanged in the church. I'm not a religious person at all. I've been reading up on their beliefs and ways and to tell you the truth, I'm not to fond of converting. I know it don't make sense, but I was thinking of becoming a member just so she can have a nice wedding with all her friends and relatives in attendance.
The worst thing I noticed about this religion is that you cannot marry someone of a different faith, if you do you are never allowed back in the church again. What a crock!! They really love her money when she attends, but once married to a non Cristo, she's out. That's the thanks you get?? Not much of a choice either, unless the significant other you meet will become the same denomination. Cristo really seems like they run the show too much. Persuading you who to vote for and you cannot be a member of a labor union. I know a co-worker here, he actually gives them 10% of his salary per month. Gee, my lord never asks for money. Isn't a few coins after the service good enough?? I can imagine the cars and houses these people that run the church drive around in.
A civil wedding looks the best for us. I don't want to go to no bible study for 25 days, then being baptized at my age. I just want to be who I am. I know the family will agree to a civil wedding, it's just it really has to be a secret. No friends, no relatives. The church finds out she's married, she can never go back. Not much of a wedding if you ask me. Why does religion have to so strict when all we want is to be happy. P.s. yes I know it's mainly a Phil religion.
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[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]I can imagine the cars and houses these people that run the church drive around in.[/QUOTE]Hehe....is that what everybody try to achieve in all kinds of work...
But back to topic, I guess they are "forced" to stay into their religion. I also once tried to discuss this with my girl but she wouldn't understand. Belief is really what keeps them up there and gives them a hope, I think. Pls tell what you decide - and good luck,
GF
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They All Want It All
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]#2 in Soju's post is something ALL OF US NEED TO READ AND RE-READ!
I have found this thinking to be quite prevelant here. Many YOUNG filipina. Read those under 25 (say) REALLY WANT A MUCH OLDER FOREIGNER
To MARRY, preferable a guy in his fifties or even sixiteis, the reason is that they got maybe ten years (like an indentured servitude) with Pops until he croaks and leaves them the money/assets in a foreign land (USA? ), then they are young enough to go find another guy their age or return to their Filipino paramour and live well.
As I write this I am preparing to leave Moalboal, I plan a trip report this week, but I ran across one little place that was built by a Foreigner 12 years ago, guy died a few years back, (heart attack) the widow married a younger Filipino .
Be careful of this in Thailand, sometimes they kill you (drug overdose).
Spamhog[/QUOTE]Sign a prenup and don't worry about the rest. Yes it is IRONCLAD and where is the gal gonna get the money to fight the family while the case is in probate? You guys kill me, it takes money to fight to get money, and if you are happy to give the cash to the little gal, set up a trust. She gets only so much per month and she can not go through the cash in one stroke. If the details are set up right in another country you have nothing to worry about. As for all the. 10 cent millionares out there, I am sure she will not be a big drain on the estate.
B. B.
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[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]I can imagine the cars and houses these people that run the church drive around in.[/QUOTE]
Oh yes! INC (love the acronym) is a very good business. Praise the lord ;)
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I don't believed that's your baby
[QUOTE=Sagramore]I would like to unabashedly confess my stupidity for the sake of discussion and perhaps a lesson or two to be learned.
Like so many others here that admit it or not, I have on occasion barebacked a bar girl. I am not here to justify or condemn this practice, my story is to simply state the possible consequences of such actions.
This story begins with a bar girl named Veronica who I met at Nero’s Forum and had spent three consecutive days with. I reported briefly on this girl earlier in the Angeles section. Although she was fun and I genuinely enjoyed her company, she was getting too attached too quickly so I stopped seeing her.
Fast forward three and a half weeks later.
I went to Nero’s one night and there she is, she looks great, is no longer pouting and is actually a lot of fun so I barfine her. We got a bite to eat at Kokomo’s and we were both having a great time, that is, until she rather nonchalantly tells me she is pregnant and I am (of course) the father! To say that this put a damper on the evening would be a complete understatement!
She tells me that she took a pregnancy test a few days earlier with the help of her housekeeper, (why a housekeeper’s advice is trusted and revered is beyond me). Now, keep in mind that even on my short trip I had seen so many single mothers in Angeles City with no support from the fathers, either foreign or Filipino. Although to be fair, it may be possible under these situations that a foreigner father doesn’t even know he has sired a child. However, the end result is still the same, a single mother that is dirt poor raising a child in an overpopulated third world country. I always said to myself that I would never be one of those guys that consciously abandoned a child or a pregnant mother; I had the simple desire to do the right thing, whatever that might be.
As my head was still spinning with all of these revelations, she then informs me that she took a drug called Cytotec the day before, which from what I understand, is a medication for stomach ulcers that has a certain nasty side effect that will make a pregnant woman have a spontaneous miscarriage. I believe this drug is commonly used by bar girls as an abortion pill.
I came up with a plan, the next morning we would find a doctor; get a real informed opinion on her alleged pregnancy and her medical condition if she really did take some kind of abortion pill. I wanted to be able to make decisions based on facts and not just the word and speculation of a bar girl and her housekeeper. For my part, I would of course pay for any medical bills regardless of the outcome or the diagnosis and I reassured her that I would be there with her from beginning to end. I thought this was a great plan, that is, until she flatly refused to go!
She gave some story about she was afraid of doctors and blah, blah, blah. So here I was faced with this situation where I was determined to do the right thing but was at the total mercy of this girl. Thus began one of the worst days of my life with me trying to reason with a young girl with the mentality of an immature five year old. I tried to reason with her, tried to be the good guy, tried to be the bad guy but she just wouldn’t budge. Finally after about 10 hours of this nonsense she said she wanted to go see her mother in Manila where she promised she would see a doctor. At this point, this idea seemed the best way for me to simply wash my hands of this situation; let her mother deal with this. So I gave her 7,000 pesos to go home and get the help she needed. I of course realize that this whole story could have been a fabrication from the start, but for me the 7,000 pesos eased my conscience to some degree for the slim possibility that she could have been telling the truth.
She did return a few days later with a story of going to the doctor who gave the diagnosis that she was no longer pregnant and there were no ill effects of her taking this Cytotic. The doctor prescribed some medication and said she would be fine, the doctor and pharmacy bills conveniently cost the amount of what I gave her. I did not want to have anything to do with her so I kept her at a distance the rest of my time in Angeles despite her numerous calls and text messages.
In looking back at this I can say that I handled this situation rather poorly, clearly there would be a lot of things I would do differently if I could. Upon reflection, I don’t think she was ever pregnant, I believe she made up this story for one or more of the following reasons:
1. She wanted a foreigner boyfriend and this was some psychotic way to trap one.
2. She wanted attention. She was queen for a day when she found a sucker like me!
3. She wanted a moneyko. That is, this was all a ruse to get some money out of some poor sap who didn’t know any better. In my case, it worked.
4. She was bored and I made for some good entertainment, plus she had a great story to tell all of her girlfriends back at the bar.
If only I had worn that condom.[/QUOTE]Sagramore, I like to read some of your reports even I'm not very good to speak in english at least I understand some of the story! Thats true. Many single mothers there in ac but most of theor Filipino bf only. They always think that story to get more extra money. Actually I won't beleive any of bar girls about that. Except, shes a normal girls. I mean she gave you the first time (virgin). Anyway thanks for your report.
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Guys,
I need some advice.
My biggest problem is:
How can I date a girl, and tell her I just want one thing, and then meet another girl the next day?
What if the girl see's me with another girl?
What is the best way to let a girl know right away what the score is?
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Be Up Front
[QUOTE=Asheron]Guys,
I need some advice.
My biggest problem is:
How can I date a girl, and tell her I just want one thing, and then meet another girl the next day?
What if the girl see's me with another girl?
What is the best way to let a girl know right away what the score is?[/QUOTE]Let her know straight up whats up and could be she will try harder to make you happy. Please don't think the little princess has no idea you might do that already. I would worry about how many she has in line and protect yourself. Could be she will break your heart before you ever get close to hers.
B.B.
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[QUOTE=Asheron]Guys,
I need some advice.
My biggest problem is:
How can I date a girl, and tell her I just want one thing, and then meet another girl the next day?
What if the girl see's me with another girl?
What is the best way to let a girl know right away what the score is?[/QUOTE]
Just introduce yourself as "Mr. Butterfly". Even my regular girl calls me that lovingly.
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[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Oh yes! INC (love the acronym) is a very good business. Praise the lord ;)[/QUOTE]
INC is not an acronym, but yes the church is a great business to start. I think it is one that could be successful in PI.
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Just a lawyer on contingency
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Sign a prenup and don't worry about the rest. Yes it is IRONCLAD and where is the gal gonna get the money to fight the family while the case is in probate? You guys kill me, it takes money to fight to get money, and if you are happy to give the cash to the little gal, set up a trust. She gets only so much per month and she can not go through the cash in one stroke. If the details are set up right in another country you have nothing to worry about. As for all the. 10 cent millionares out there, I am sure she will not be a big drain on the estate.
B. B.[/QUOTE]
Not sure of other countries, but this is true for the USA.
All you need is reasonable reason to sue and a lawyers belief or actual knowledge of enough money for it to be worth their time.
There are thousands of ambulance chasers out there that know it will be settled long before it goes to court and will be willing to take the case based on the chance of winning or really settling out of court.
No offense to any lawyers out there, but the goal is not to go to court for both lawyers. They get paid for doing less than half the case load most of the time. Plus, it is true that the preparation for trial and the actual trial portion is and will be the most expensive part. Other family members could easily see all that wealth coming their way reduced to very little trying to keep all or most of the money. Remember in the the USA you can sue a Ham Sandwich if you desire.
I have been on the receiving side of some ridiculous law suits that I had to settle to keep from going to court where it would have cost double the settlement.
FF
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Girls Giving Run-around re Pregnancy
I have seen a number of reports about girls claiming to mongers that they are pregnant from them and that she is 'afraid of doctors' - first sign of a scam to avoid going to a doctor with you and being revealed as a scammer. Solution is simple, buy a pregnancy test kit from a drugstore (very cheap and readily available in most drugstores). Just get the woman to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on the card and see the result for yourself. If she is pregnant, just be aware that most AC girls have Filipino boyfriends, living off their earnings (foodchain).
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Please
[QUOTE=Fastpiston]I have seen a number of reports about girls claiming to mongers that they are pregnant from them and that she is 'afraid of doctors' - first sign of a scam to avoid going to a doctor with you and being revealed as a scammer. Solution is simple, buy a pregnancy test kit from a drugstore (very cheap and readily available in most drugstores). Just get the woman to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on the card and see the result for yourself. If she is pregnant, just be aware that most AC girls have Filipino boyfriends, living off their earnings (foodchain).[/QUOTE]This is not just a problem with the most have bf's in ac it's allover. They all if they like you or think they can get pere from you try the guess what card. Pregnancy is a well overused scamm that gals use here, and all over the globe. Remember the quick drug store test sa stated above, could set the record straight fast. They all try "by hook or by crook"they all need pera!
B. B.
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Don't Send Money!
I swiped this from "Dragonslayers" Forum:
"I took a bath and dressed after lalaine departed to await the call from her "fiance", . Cyber Mike. This guy has to be dumber than a fucking donkey. I did her three times and got a decent blowjob. He sends her $200-300/Mo and calls twice daily to be certain she has no one else (how do I place a huge laughing icon here? ). "
If a girl asks you for money, you are being played. Maybe there is an exception to this, but I would say the odds are overwhelmingly against you.
Don't be a schmuck!
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Scams
[quote=teenieweenie]i swiped this from "dragonslayers" forum:
"i took a bath and dressed after lalaine departed to await the call from her "fiance", . cyber mike. this guy has to be dumber than a fucking donkey. i did her three times and got a decent blowjob. he sends her $200-300/mo and calls twice daily to be certain she has no one else (how do i place a huge laughing icon here? ). "
if a girl asks you for money, you are being played. maybe there is an exception to this, but i would say the odds are overwhelmingly against you.
don't be a schmuck![/quote]looking through this board sometimes, i wonder if some grown up guys are really 'babes in the wood'! a few simple hints, easily determined from looking at the archives on this board:
1) don't overpay and ruin the market for yourself and others. if you buy cars in different countries, they cost different according to the local market price. in the bars, the girls are selling a service - pay the local price. don't compare with us and other places, they are irrelevant as they are different markets.
2) if you must send money to girls, check out the girl first over several months before you do it. if she has jewellery, new cell phone etc. where did she really get the money from? talk to her friends / colleagues carefully, discretely, they may drop hints or make slips on what is going on.
3) if you hear that the buffalo, mother, sister is sick and she needs money urgently, watch out! if you meet the family and they look upon the visit as a way of getting a 'free meal' or ask for money - you will have trouble in the future, believe me.
4) if you must get deep with a girl, get her a phone landline - that way you know whether she is at home at night. call at random.
5) don't fall for the "i am having your baby" thing, especially if she says she is scared of seeing a doctor. get a preg test from most drugstores in phils, all she has to do is [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on the marker stick. if positive insist absolutely on seeing the doctor to get your own estimate on when she was fucked. if you were not in town - you have an alibi. if she does conceive, check the dna of the baby against your own. any mismatch, you can walk away with a clear mind - it is someone else's.
6) try and get a girl from outside the bar scene - better hit rates for quality. there are fabulous girls about in phils. who really have fantastic characters: loving, honest, dedicated -if that is what you want. how do you get them - easy - put up the image of being a really good, religious, catholic boy, and talk to locals (who are not in bar scene) casually that you are looking for a serious girlfriend - tell them the kind of girl you are looking for and you will be overloaded with introductions. always say this is your first trip to the philippines and that you are on a business trip. filipinos always think that you already have a girl if it is your second trip. usually first meeting with such a girl is sex free. during that meeting be the good innocent boy on a business trip. she will go home and talk nonstop about how great you are to all her friends. on second meeting, say how lovely she is and how you love her and want so much to make love as that is the way to develop the relationship further. from that point i think you know what to do!
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I think I'm being scammed
I have been reading some of these stories and I find myself possibly in one of those situations.
I met this girl on Asia Euro and we started talking on yahoo I'm. I forget what city she lived in but I know that it was not Manila or close to it. Now, she was real sweet and we talked and saw each other on the webcam for days. Then all of a sudden, she was not on line for a week. The next time we spoke, she claims she lost her phone and that is why she could not talk to me. So she kept talking about needing money to get a new phone. She did not outright ask for it but she kept talking about it. Now, like a dumb ass, I offered 50 bucks and she jumped on it. Mind you, this is all new to me so I asked how I could send it and so we decided to send it Western Union. I asked her where to send it and she gave a name of some other girl which right there a red flag went up but it was only 50 bucks so I did it. She promised the next time if I sent money, I would send it to her address and her name.
Now, the address was in Pasay City but Cecille (the scammer) specifically said she was in another city far away from Manila in fact she went as far as to say she had never been to Manila. Now the next time we spoke, she said that her daughter (Hazel Jane) needed to go to Cebu for some thing with her school and needed a plane ticket. Once again, she never asked for it, she just kept complaining. At this point, I offered to help again but I would need to send it to her name and address (which I wa snot really going to help, I just wanted to call her bluff). Once again, she made up some stupid story but this time I did not send anything and just said I had to fix my car After that I ignored her for a few days. Anyway, the next time I talked to her, I confronted her about my feelings and she reassured me that it was all coincidental and I just chalked it up to her being poor and having a rough life. So we continued to talk and we got along great. She was funny, charismatic and witty. Now I have talked to a few Filipinas and there are some that just seem dull, but not Cecille, she was different.
Ok, se we start getting closer and more serious, so now she says she is moving to Manila to work because I am planning on visiting in Jan 08 and she claims she is going to work at the Asia Mall until I get there. Again, she starts complaining about needing money for a plane ticket to get to Manila and once again, I don't give her anymore money. I know by this time I should have just dumped her on the curb because I have seen and talked to so many Filipinas from that website that were WAY better looking than Cecille but I really liked her so I kept the relationship going but I was cautious all while talking to a few other girls too. Hehehehe.
Oh yeah, again, she cries about a phone because my 50 dollars was not enough and she was saving that 50 till when she can afford a new phone. Meanwhile, she swipes out her sim card with all these different cell phones and I see them at diff times when we speak and use the cam.
Ok, so now she is in Manila and we barely talk now. I call her sometimes late at night and she is up doing God knows what. At least 3 times I have called and she was at a bar or listening to a live band with her so called "friends". So last week, she says she moved into a new apartment with her cousin (which she seems to have so many relatives all over the Philipennes) and I said I would send her some money or something so she gives me the address and it's in Pasay city too like the original address she gave me. This one has a diff name too and she claims it is her landlady. So anyway, I started reading on the web and I found out SO many things about the area she lives in right now and it is infested with brothels and places where Filipinas live to have sex with westerners. I read all about the protitutes in the Philipennes thanks to sites like this one and another one so now I am not a newbie.
Now my guess is that Cecille is one of those *****s who goes out at night and meets westerners for sucking and fucking but what I can't figure out is this; I have not sent her money since that first time so why does she not just ignore me? I mean, if she can't score money from me, why does she string me along?
Mind you, I am not as much as a dumbass as some of you may be thinking as you read this because I have been talking to 2 other girls while I have been talking to Cecille and they are EXACTLY as some of you described the "GOOD GIRLS" to be.
They send me tons of pics, they live with heir families, hell I even talked to one the girls mother on the phone and NEITHER one of them has mentioned money one time.
Anyway, here is the address to where Cecille is supposed to live
183-the Progresso st. F. B. Harrison, Pasay city 1300
See/o melodivina "medy" Gemina
Her name is supposedly Cecille Gayan. So if any of you are in the area and need to get laid, hit her up and tap that ass a few times for me.
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Spaceherpes
I can tell you for a fact that Cecille is a bar-girl that works at the EDSA Complex in Pasay (which is part of Manila). I met her on my last trip to the Philippines this past May and I barfined her on two different occasions. She is a pretty girl with a fun personality but I would definitely put her in the scammer category.
My experience with her is that she told me she was pregnant and that I was, of course, the father. (This is an all too familiar theme for me if you read my past postings!) By this time I was home in my country so I asked her to go to a doctor and get a pregnancy test, scan the results and send them to me and prove to me she is pregnant. She never did.
She then told me she went back to live with her family in General Santos City (which is part of Mindinao) and that she was having difficulties with her pregnancy. She gave me a story that she was in the hospital and wanted me to send money for medical bills. I told her I would send money and reimburse her bills if she scanned the receipts and doctor notes she had and sent them to me. I’m still waiting.
The funny thing about her was she would trash the other girls in the bar because they were liars and cheats. I guess it takes one to know one!
There are some good girls on those sites but there are also the scammers. You did a good job of suspecting a scammer in this case. The best thing for you to do is to get on a plane and experience the country and the women in person; once you do you will never be the same!
PM me if you want any details on Cecille.
Cheers!
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Spaceherpes
Very nice report. Many of these girls run so many scams on so many different guys at the same time that they cannot keep their stories straight and cannot remember to which guy they told which story. No one ever accused them of being the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Most of these women come from extreme poverty, and most who are in the sex trade in Manila, don't come from there, or even from Luzon, but from anther province. Many have been impregnated by irresponsible Filipinos who promptly flee the scene, leaving them destitute and without child support, Since most of these girls have zero education, no skills (except fucking) and no money, they wind up as sex workers.
Many (though certainly not all) of these women also lay on their backs to support not only their children, but their families since the parents are too fucking lazy to work and prefer to live off of their daughter's income from prostitution. They never have enough money and they're always on the look out for avenues to acquire more.
Even those whom you meet on one of the chat sites often string along several guys at the same time, hoping that maybe someday one of them will show up here and take them away from the lives they know. I agree with Sagramore. The only way to truly separate the wheat from the chaff is to come here, meet the ladies (without their families) and spend a while getting a sense of their characters. There are lovely, honest, faithful women here, but you will not be able to differentiate them from the rest of the scamming crowd without a personal visit. In the meantime, I advise you not to send any money to anyone for any reason no matter how poignant the story or the tale of woe. Remember, there are thousands of women for each prospective visitor, and believe me, if you come here, you will have a wide spectrum of candidates from among which you can choose.
For whatever it's worth, I also advise that you avoid the girls from Manila, simply because there's a greater concentration of scam artists in the metro area than in other places. Better to head for another area and to cultivate relationships from Mindanao, Dumaguete, or any of the other 7,000 or so islands that comprise this country.
I've lived here now for almost five years, and I can no longer count the number of guys I've seen scammed, despite all advice received, by women whom, they insisted, were "different from those scammers." In the case of the Philippines, seeing really is believing.
GE
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[QUOTE=Sagramore]I can tell you for a fact that Cecille is a bar-girl that works at the EDSA Complex in Pasay (which is part of Manila). I met her on my last trip to the Philippines this past May and I barfined her on two different occasions. She is a pretty girl with a fun personality but I would definitely put her in the scammer category.
My experience with her is that she told me she was pregnant and that I was, of course, the father. (This is an all too familiar theme for me if you read my past postings!) By this time I was home in my country so I asked her to go to a doctor and get a pregnancy test, scan the results and send them to me and prove to me she is pregnant. She never did.
She then told me she went back to live with her family in General Santos City (which is part of Mindinao) and that she was having difficulties with her pregnancy. She gave me a story that she was in the hospital and wanted me to send money for medical bills. I told her I would send money and reimburse her bills if she scanned the receipts and doctor notes she had and sent them to me. I’m still waiting.
The funny thing about her was she would trash the other girls in the bar because they were liars and cheats. I guess it takes one to know one!
There are some good girls on those sites but there are also the scammers. You did a good job of suspecting a scammer in this case. The best thing for you to do is to get on a plane and experience the country and the women in person; once you do you will never be the same!
PM me if you want any details on Cecille.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Yesterday I ended it with her. I accused her of being a ***** and told her why I thought she was a ***** and of course she denied it all. She started crying and was a TOTAL WRECK. I know this because while I was breaking up with her, I asked to see her on the cam and she was defiantly balling her eyes out. I felt really bad because I really had strong feelings for her.
It's also funny that you mentioned Mindinau because that is where I think she was from. And, she also mentioned that she was sick and in the hospital for 1-2 days but I forget the date, I think it was like 3-4 weeks ago.
Anyway, if you could just describe her here that would be great. If not, I will just buy a subscription and we will correspond through the PM's because even though I dumped her, I would like make sure I did the right thing because right now, I feel pretty guilty.
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Good advice
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Very nice report. Many of these girls run so many scams on so many different guys at the same time that they cannot keep their stories straight and cannot remember to which guy they told which story. No one ever accused them of being the brightest bulbs in the chandelier. Most of these women come from extreme poverty, and most who are in the sex trade in Manila, don't come from there, or even from Luzon, but from anther province. Many have been impregnated by irresponsible Filipinos who promptly flee the scene, leaving them destitute and without child support, Since most of these girls have zero education, no skills (except fucking) and no money, they wind up as sex workers.
Many (though certainly not all) of these women also lay on their backs to support not only their children, but their families since the parents are too fucking lazy to work and prefer to live off of their daughter's income from prostitution. They never have enough money and they're always on the look out for avenues to acquire more.
Even those whom you meet on one of the chat sites often string along several guys at the same time, hoping that maybe someday one of them will show up here and take them away from the lives they know. I agree with Sagramore. The only way to truly separate the wheat from the chaff is to come here, meet the ladies (without their families) and spend a while getting a sense of their characters. There are lovely, honest, faithful women here, but you will not be able to differentiate them from the rest of the scamming crowd without a personal visit. In the meantime, I advise you not to send any money to anyone for any reason no matter how poignant the story or the tale of woe. Remember, there are thousands of women for each prospective visitor, and believe me, if you come here, you will have a wide spectrum of candidates from among which you can choose.
For whatever it's worth, I also advise that you avoid the girls from Manila, simply because there's a greater concentration of scam artists in the metro area than in other places. Better to head for another area and to cultivate relationships from Mindanao, Dumaguete, or any of the other 7,000 or so islands that comprise this country.
I've lived here now for almost five years, and I can no longer count the number of guys I've seen scammed, despite all advice received, by women whom, they insisted, were "different from those scammers." In the case of the Philippines, seeing really is believing.
GE[/QUOTE]Great advice. It matches exactly my experiences over many years around the world. The RP girls are the most clever or cunning of the world's scammers - many can and do tell lies in the most convincing manner. I do not think that poverty explains the situation entirely - maybe it is a national characteristic to do things the easiest way possible, especially if they can rip off a foreigner.
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One more thing Spaceherpes….
You asked a question in your post about why would a girl string you along, in my opinion, why not? You have already sent her money once; therefore you have proven yourself as a "tree that bears fruit" and you have also given her the impression that you would send money again. It costs her very little to have contact with you, she knows she will probably never meet you in person so what’s the harm in fabricating a few dramatic stories in the hopes that it may produce a little extra cash.
Also, keep in mind that the Philippines is a poor country, there are many hard working Filipinos that make less than $5 a day. Even though $50 is not a lot to you, it is to a person that makes $150 a month. To put things in perspective, you gave her more than I did for two full nights of passion!
Cheers!
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GE's report
Well, a bit too negative GE, but I guess you have to be blunt to make sure the message gets out. Love is blind....
I'll add two things...and I've said this before.
1) If a lady hints about money, or asks for money, no reason to get bent out of shape and call her a scammer. The smart and devious ladies will just adapt and refine their technique. Just let it slide....no sense in training them to be better scammers.
2) If she's trying to "scam" you, she probably is desperate (maybe greedy desperate) and / or of low moral character. Either way, a woman like that is more likely to get comfortable on your hotel bed. (I know from experience) So, make sure you get her email address and phone number. This is especially true for those who have poor scam techniques....the good ones are already making too much money to bother...
3) Okay, I lied, I have three points. If you go to the Philippines to meet a chat friend and she is eager to go shopping, this is probably a bad sign. At one time I thought a few gifts would be a good investment with girls I met online...but, I've never had a good payoff. They typically expect more, more, more. As for online girls, meet them at the food court in the mall. The food is cheap and you keep their expectations low. Things can only get better (especially if she money focused). If you want to spend money on a lady, suggest an overnight trip to the beach. I've never had that plan backfire - yet.
X Man
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[QUOTE=Sagramore]You asked a question in your post about why would a girl string you along, in my opinion, why not? You have already sent her money once; therefore you have proven yourself as a "tree that bears fruit" and you have also given her the impression that you would send money again. It costs her very little to have contact with you, she knows she will probably never meet you in person so what’s the harm in fabricating a few dramatic stories in the hopes that it may produce a little extra cash.
Also, keep in mind that the Philippines is a poor country, there are many hard working Filipinos that make less than $5 a day. Even though $50 is not a lot to you, it is to a person that makes $150 a month. To put things in perspective, you gave her more than I did for two full nights of passion!
Cheers![/QUOTE]Hey man, I am sure Cecille is a very common name in PI what makes you think the girl I am talking about is the same one you have had sex with?
I aksed you to describe what she looks like before but you did not. I am not saying it is not the same person but you seem so sure even though I never described her or even showed a pic.
How about you describe her for me like I asked in my first response to you.
In other words, her hair color, her hair length. What kind of face does she have? How about how tall? Is she thin and petite or does she have some meat on her bones? Is she flat chested, medium or big breasted(which would be unusual if she did have big breasts) :)
Anyway, stop assuming it is her, just describe her to me on here and then we can see if it's the same person. Thx.
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Cecile?
I'm already tired of hearing about this lady. You already unnecessarily busted her chops online, so why spend one more minute on it?
And one more thing, you should NOT be insulting someone online that you have never met just because you sent her money unnecessarily. You said yourself that she never asks for money, only hints about it.
What if her little sister happened to be sharing the computer with her when you had your little outburst? Have some decency man.
X Man
[QUOTE=Spaceherpes]Hey man, I am sure Cecille is a very common name in PI what makes you think the girl I am talking about is the same one you have had sex with?
I aksed you to describe what she looks like before but you did not. I am not saying it is not the same person but you seem so sure even though I never described her or even showed a pic.
How about you describe her for me like I asked in my first response to you.
In other words, her hair color, her hair length. What kind of face does she have? How about how tall? Is she thin and petite or does she have some meat on her bones? Is she flat chested, medium or big breasted(which would be unusual if she did have big breasts) :)
Anyway, stop assuming it is her, just describe her to me on here and then we can see if it's the same person. Thx.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man]I'm already tired of hearing about this lady. You already unnecessarily busted her chops online, so why spend one more minute on it?
And one more thing, you should NOT be insulting someone online that you have never met just because you sent her money unnecessarily. You said yourself that she never asks for money, only hints about it.
What if her little sister happened to be sharing the computer with her when you had your little outburst? Have some decency man.
X Man[/QUOTE]I guess you never read my original post where I stated all the strange occurrences that happened which led me to believe she might be a scammer.
I came on here for advice from experts which I am not. Some of you guys have been to the very same places I am asking about and I needed some much needed help.
Also, I even posted that I really liked her alot and I felt guilty after I did what I did because even though I may not trust her, I still had some feelings for her. BTW, lets not question my behavior because I have never dropped a dime on any prostitute in my life so suggesting I was being too harsh on a girl or whether or not her little sister may have been in the room when I did is laughable consider what this site is really all about.
If you don't like what I have to talk about, just move along, show me some coutesy even if I am a new here, there is no need to be the MEAN FORUM TROLL to me. I just needed some advice so like I said, just move along or ignore my posts, thats what an adult does right?
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Internet Girls
I'd like to add another point to the discussion about Scammers vs. Good Girls on internet.
Even if you find a gem on the internet, chances are she knows or is related to a scammer. The scammers share their secrets with their relatives. Even if a girl has pretty good character, she will use some of her scammer relative's trade secrets. She may have boundaries that she tries not to cross, but . . .
it is hard to argue with success.
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Spaceherpes,
You posted for the first time on this forum telling the story on how you think you are being scammed by a girl you met on the internet. I replied to your post in an effort to help you as I actually know the woman you were referring to.
The reason I am so sure we are talking about the same Cecille is because you gave her last name on your first report, also her daughter’s name.
I am more than happy to provide more details about her but not in this public forum as I don’t think it’s appropriate. If you PM me I can give you the email addresses, chat ID’s for her as well as pictures.
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=FireWalker]I'd like to add another point to the discussion about Scammers vs. Good Girls on internet.
Even if you find a gem on the internet, chances are she knows or is related to a scammer. The scammers share their secrets with their relatives. Even if a girl has pretty good character, she will use some of her scammer relative's trade secrets. She may have boundaries that she tries not to cross, but . . .
It is hard to argue with success.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I hear you. I understand and you know what, I don't dislike the Filipino people. I think overall they are wonderful. Hell, this girl even after all the things that have happened and what I said to her, she still is trying to talk to me and stupid or not, I am still talking to her but I will keep her at arms length. I can't relate to being poor and having to sell my body to make a little money but I can see how if a person is desperate, they will do just about anything for some scratch. I have read some horror stories about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] and all sorts of terrible things that happen to young men and women in these poor countries and I feel bad. I thank goodness that I am lucky enough not to live like they have to.
Anyway, I will continue to talk to Cecille but I will keep her at arms length. Like I said, I still can't believe after all the bad things I said to her she still wants to talk to me. But like someone said, I gave her 50 bucks already so whats the harm in stringing me along, I may send more (NOT! )
Oh yeah, I am talking to another girl who I think is a scammer. She sent me a bunch of pics and she is very nice looking, real innocent looking with light skin and a beautiful face. She says she has NEVER had a BF and she is 28. So she then says she has internet connection at home but she has no phone number or phone. How is that possible, last time I checked, the dsl runs form the phone line? I know I need a phone number for dsl so just incase it goes down, I can use dial up on a modem. Anyway she says her BDAY is in two days and asked if I would send her a card (mind you, we have been talking for 5 minutes). So I ask her for her bday year/day and month and she pauses for like 30 seconds. She comes back with 08/22/1978. Now she says she will be 28 on the 22nd but according to my calculations, she will be. 29 Unless I am retarded which is likely LOL.
I also had some other girl show me her tits on the web cam which my reply was.
"I'm sorry but I am not going to pay alot for this muffler"
Which I am sure only Americans over 30 may get. I know she did not. Anyway, I actually have a good time flirting with all these girls and I can't wait to go the PI. I hope when I go, someone from here will show me the ropes.
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Yes, Yes, Yes, listen to FW. For us regulars, this is just such common knowledge that we don't even think about mentioning it.
I met a professional lady from GSC, which is about as far from MLA as you can get, and she flat out told me that some of her friends had quit good jobs in order to go into the business of online scamming or begging or whatever you want to call it. (we need a better name).
Once again, if you get a really lame attempt at a scam, don't slam the girl. Don't teach her how to improve her game. You might do a hell of a lot better by saying, "well, i'm sorry your house burned down, and you're starving, and the elctricty bill is unpaid...but I wish you the very best."
When you do that you hint that you know what she's doing, but you help her save face. A key to surviving in Asia is understanding how to save face.
I don't mean to offend anyone, but Americans / Brits / ozzies seem to be particularly bad at this rather harmless social technique. Americans have the additional limitation of being loud and occasionally suggesting that the solution to geopolitical problems is nuking the population which seems to offend you.
I'm going off on a tangent..sorry. Work gets busy next week, so I WILL NOT
be clogging up the threads with my rants...
X Man
[QUOTE=FireWalker]I'd like to add another point to the discussion about Scammers vs. Good Girls on internet.
Even if you find a gem on the internet, chances are she knows or is related to a scammer. The scammers share their secrets with their relatives. Even if a girl has pretty good character, she will use some of her scammer relative's trade secrets. She may have boundaries that she tries not to cross, but . . .
it is hard to argue with success.[/QUOTE]
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Beware
A little background on myself: I am an amercian born Meztiso (half-Filipino ) who is culturally american. I have ladies I have met through Filipinaheart and picking up in the Malls who have requested cash for various emergencies such as sickness, education, building material etc. Etc. Some of these requests are legit. But I am sure some were just for living expenses. Also I have learned that "loan" really means gift. LOL. So Gentlemen, whenever you hear a sad story, it could be total be. S. But if you are aware of this you cannot be duped. But all in all, I love visiting the PI and screwing as many women as I can.
My opinion: only give to those you have met in person and spent some time with or else you may regret your generosity.
Luvulooongtime
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[QUOTE=X Man]I don't mean to offend anyone, but Americans / Brits / ozzies seem to be particularly bad at this rather harmless social technique. Americans have the additional limitation of being loud and occasionally suggesting that the solution to geopolitical problems is nuking the population which seems to offend you.[/QUOTE]The comment you made about Americans as much as it offends me, it is so freaking true.
Now, I am not one of those types of people but many Americans are. They are not only ignorant but close minded. It's obvious because they elected GW for a second term and that is all the empirical evidence you need.
Anyway, like I said before, I felt bad in confronting her and maybe it was a bad idea. But that is what newbies do, they live and learn. hopefully, I can learn from my mistakes and make friends with some of you guys on here so when my time comes to go to the Philippines, I don't look or act like a schmuck.
Oh yeah, that girl Cecille sent me some more pics recently because I had been asking for them for so long so after we had our little argument, she sent me some of her which must be very recent. She sent me a few pics of her sitting and lying on a bed and she has these knee high black boots on with what looks like some very high heels. It's obviously a Hotel Room by the tile floor and the generic white sheets and tan thin blanket that every cheap hotel has and you can clearly see a carryon bag on the floor and one of those rectangle shaped suitcases with the wheels on the bottom. I guess I am still just paranoid eh?
I think it is funny, but sad at the same time.
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[QUOTE=Sagramore]Spaceherpes,
You posted for the first time on this forum telling the story on how you think you are being scammed by a girl you met on the internet. I replied to your post in an effort to help you as I actually know the woman you were referring to.
The reason I am so sure we are talking about the same Cecille is because you gave her last name on your first report, also her daughter’s name.
I am more than happy to provide more details about her but not in this public forum as I don’t think it’s appropriate. If you PM me I can give you the email addresses, chat ID’s for her as well as pictures.
Cheers![/QUOTE]Hey man, I am sorry about that, I forgot that I had mentioned her daughters name. I just purchased a pm subscription so hopefully, it will be activated so I cam pm you. I am very curious to know more.
Thanks again man!
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Ramblings...
I have met and spent time with my share of bargirls and have made a few observations; keep in mind that bargirls are different from “normal girls” in that there are plenty of poor women who never, or will never cross that line and work in a bar.
Having said that, I have a great deal of compassion for these bargirls; they come from a background of poverty and hardship that anyone living in a modern western country cannot understand because it simply does not exist in their countries. These women are desperate and often times uneducated, this, however, does not mean that they do not have pride. None of these women like the situation they are in and they certainly don’t like they way they have to make a living and they will usually lie to their families back home about their true occupation. Often times they are filled a sense of shame, it should be of no surprise that Cecille would burst into tears after being called a *****, after all these women are human and have feelings too.
However, just because someone is poor does not justify the scams and lies that these girls may pull over, but it does go a long way to explain what motivates them. It is relatively easy to understand the motivations of the women in these situations, but to be honest, I can’t understand what motivates some men to send money to women they have never even met. Now keep in mind I’m not picking on Spaceherpes for his gift of $50, I am referring more to the guys that will send hundreds if not thousands every month to women they have not met in person and probably never will.
I am amazed at the stories I hear so many times over, it is at the point where I actually don’t hold it against a girl if she can scam a guy over the internet. If I guy is that foolish then he deserves it to some extent. The most outrages amount I’ve personally heard of is from a friend I met on my first trip to the Phils, she is not a bargirl and is very attractive and personable, she had a virtual relationship with an American and he gave her $40,000 over the course of a year! Keep in mind they never met in person! Needless to say their relationship did not last.
Spaceherpes,
I wouldn’t be surprised if the pictures she sent you are ones that I took of her as your descriptions sound very familiar. If it is, it’s not really a cheap motel, pretty much all hotels in the Phils look that way. ;)
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Sagramore]I have met and spent time with my share of bargirls and have made a few observations; keep in mind that bargirls are different from “normal girls” in that there are plenty of poor women who never, or will never cross that line and work in a bar.
Having said that, I have a great deal of compassion for these bargirls; they come from a background of poverty and hardship that anyone living in a modern western country cannot understand because it simply does not exist in their countries. These women are desperate and often times uneducated, this, however, does not mean that they do not have pride. None of these women like the situation they are in and they certainly don’t like they way they have to make a living and they will usually lie to their families back home about their true occupation. Often times they are filled a sense of shame, it should be of no surprise that Cecille would burst into tears after being called a *****, after all these women are human and have feelings too.
However, just because someone is poor does not justify the scams and lies that these girls may pull over, but it does go a long way to explain what motivates them. It is relatively easy to understand the motivations of the women in these situations, but to be honest, I can’t understand what motivates some men to send money to women they have never even met. Now keep in mind I’m not picking on Spaceherpes for his gift of $50, I am referring more to the guys that will send hundreds if not thousands every month to women they have not met in person and probably never will.
I am amazed at the stories I hear so many times over, it is at the point where I actually don’t hold it against a girl if she can scam a guy over the internet. If I guy is that foolish then he deserves it to some extent. The most outrages amount I’ve personally heard of is from a friend I met on my first trip to the Phils, she is not a bargirl and is very attractive and personable, she had a virtual relationship with an American and he gave her $40,000 over the course of a year! Keep in mind they never met in person! Needless to say their relationship did not last.
Spaceherpes,
I wouldn’t be surprised if the pictures she sent you are ones that I took of her as your descriptions sound very familiar. If it is, it’s not really a cheap motel, pretty much all hotels in the Phils look that way. ;)
Cheers![/QUOTE]I understand, and it's a complicated thing. You see, like I mentioned before, I was very new to this whole thing and luckily, I catch on quickly. You know the old saying "Fool me once, blah blah blah". Well anyway, I really liked her and I think any man or woman that has feelings for someone would be really pissed to find something out like this. Remember, I only came to this site because I wanted to find out if she was what I suspected her of being.
Now, since coming to this site and reading about the experiences many of you guys have had, to be honest, this is one of my fantasies and I will be going to PI VERY SOON to indulge myself. Hell, if I could get a job there, and make what I make in the states, I would move there for a few years.
I live in South Florida and I have dated all of South America. From Colombians to Brazilians. Hell, I even dated an Au Pair from the Czech Republic and a girl from Switzerland. Thats pretty good for a guy who has never been outside of this side of the world. So since, I LOVE dark skin beauties, particularly Asian ones, I really can't wait to visit the Philippines and have some fun. I have never paid for it but I certainly have no problems with doing so.
BTW, Brazilian women are the most passionate and intense lovers, I am sure the guys on here who have been to Brazil or have had a Brazilian girl know that already. The one Columbian I had was not that bad either.
Sag, like I said before, as soon as my subscription goes through, I will be contacting you for that info.
Also, when is the next time you will visit PI? You sound like the perfect mentor to show me the way!!!
I appreciate your patience and help on this one!!
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My cousin told me a Filipino proverb: "When poverty enters the front door, morality is thrown out the window. " Gentlemen: . Fuck as many as you can. Spread a little cash. Have a great time. Just do not be stupid.
Luvulongtime
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Who's dull, the scammer or the scammee?
my first thought was, "is your cousin a filipino?"
my second thought was "george bush isn't poor." (numerous other wealthy and immoral people's names can be inserted here instead of gb...)
my third thought was, "is your cousin talking from the perspective of the poor, or the not-poor considering how to deal with the poor?" any if it's the second point, how in hell does he know?
x man
i sometimes play a little magic trick with kids. first you show them the coin and then after the magic, the coin disappears - then reappears out of their ear or somwhere else. i once tried this little show with a filipino kid. first, i showed him the coin. with the speed of light, he grabbed the coin, squeezed it tightly in his fist, and smiled at me.
was he rude, was he a thief?
nope, just using his own local common sense. when a fool hands out money, take it!
ha, ha, sorry for laughing at my own joke. can i get an isg copyright on that little story/ analogy?
[quote=luvulooongtime]my cousin told me a filipino proverb: "when poverty enters the front door, morality is thrown out the window. " gentlemen: . fuck as many as you can. spread a little cash. have a great time. just do not be stupid.
luvulongtime[/quote]
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Tougher to Be Moral when you are poor.
Yup, X-man, my cousin is Filipino . He grew up in Tando. I did not intend to imply that wealthy people are more moral. Just that morality is not a priority when your survival is at stake. I, in fact, despise Bush and others who are privaleged, yet cannot set a good example as leaders. I just want to warn fellow and would be mongers to be aware of the lengths people will go to get money out of foreigners. My cousins warned me when I go to Manila to be careful. As provincials they did no realize I grew up in tough part of America and I am not easily fooled or intimidated; ) Compared to where I grew up I feel Manila is relatively safe and a disneyland for men. Just donot be stupid and you will enjoy.
Luvuloongtime
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Morality is a luxery...
On last point X, my cousin grew up in proverty in Tando, yet managed to escape to USA And make a good life for himself. My only point is when you are hungry, your thoughts are not on moral niceities. So if you are scammed, you are probably stupid/naive. Just be aware and enjoy.
Luvulongtime
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[quote=x man]my first thought was, "is your cousin a filipino?"
my second thought was "george bush isn't poor." (numerous other wealthy and immoral people's names can be inserted here instead of gb...)
my third thought was, "is your cousin talking from the perspective of the poor, or the not-poor considering how to deal with the poor?" any if it's the second point, how in hell does he know?
x man
i sometimes play a little magic trick with kids. first you show them the coin and then after the magic, the coin disappears - then reappears out of their ear or somewhere else. i once tried this little show with a filipino kid. first, i showed him the coin. with the speed of light, he grabbed the coin, squeezed it tightly in his fist, and smiled at me.
was he rude, was he a thief?
nope, just using his own local common sense. when a fool hands out money, take it!
ha, ha, sorry for laughing at my own joke. can i get an isg copyright on that little story/ analogy?[/quote]this reminds me of something my father said to me one day. i had an older brother who was a pos and he had no problems stealing from his own family. since i have 3 brothers, the pickings were ripe for him. so anyway, one day i went to my father crying about how my brother went into my room and stole money out of my drawer and he stole other misc things.
my father's response was "well, if you don't want him to steal from you , lock your door"..........
i was freaking 14 years old. from that day on, i knew my father was a simpleton and even though i love him, we have never seen eye to eye on much.
that sort of mentality is simple and just a cop out. so if a woman wears sexy clothes, it is ok for someone to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] her? are we just going to say "well, if she was not wearing those clothes, she would have not gotten raped"?
there are stupid people who do stupid things and one may think that if they are that stupid, they deserve to be scammed and in certain situations, i might agree. like the time, i bought a 125 dollar bubble z hockey stick and i left it next to my car after playing hockey and drove away without it. thats stupid and i deserved that. i don't blame anyone if they snatched that up, thats a kick ass stick!!!
but lets say, i left my door unlocked with the stick inside, should it be my fault that some dirt bag opens the door to my car and snags it? now i think these days you have to lock your car doors and take other precautions but the perp should take the blame for being a sack of crap, not me for leaving my car unlocked.
at what point do we draw the line and place the blame on the person doing the scamming, grifting, stealing or whatever you want to call it?
there is a point wear the person with the immoral behavior has to be accountable for something right?
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Advice from the Mayor
When I first visited the PI in 2001, I met my long lost uncle the Mayor. He was the mayor of a relatively small town of 70k in Rizal Province. The Mayor was a notorious playboy and had 4 "wives" and many girlfriends (he passed away recently). I asked him as a foriegner(I am a half filipino-american, in other words a meztiso) what was the best advice he could give me in my interactions with the locals and ladies.
His advice: 1. Trust no one, and 2. The girls want your money.
My uncle was a charming, smart, and able politician. I have heeded his advice and have had a great trouble free visits to the PI ever since. Perhaps some of you might think this advice is from an overly cynical and jaded politician. But remember gentlemen: forewarned is forearmed.
Luvuloongtime
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Gotta luv Filipinas
About 9 months ago I was in HK and arranged to meet a Filipina there. She was innocently looking for a job. And it wasnt a bar job. She truly was quite a babe in the woods.
Well. We ended up back in my hotel after a Mcdo where a HJ was enjoyed. Over the weekend we ended up doing the deed a a few times. She started to profess love etcetc.
Saw her a few times in Manila too. Usually on a Sunday as I always had a hour spare before my flight. She didn't qualify for my Friday or Saturday afternoon sessions as she wasnt wild enough. And usually when I met her on a Sunday it would be after shes been to church. She'the even cross herself before blowing me saying she knew it was bad but she wanted to make me happy. Whatever.
Anyways always sending me sms with love messages.
Today practicality has taken over. Got a yahoo message saying
" I've found a man to marry me. Bye". So much for the love hahah.
Will remember her from the last time we went to Sogo together. She even bought a nightie when I said we were going to a hotel. Guess I didn't properly explain that Sogo is a hotel but not where people stay overnight.
Byebye lover number 156. Welcome number 157.
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Taking risks
I agree 100% that people who do wrongdoing should be held accountable; I guess my point is that we as individuals also have a responsibility to be smart and accept the consequences of the risks we take everyday.
I have come to look at money I may give to Filipinos as a risky charity. It is charity as I know that once I give money away I will never see it again as I will never be repaid and it is a risk in the sense that I may be giving it for a good cause that truly helps out a person in need, or I could be financing a fun trip to the mall. In a way, it is like gambling, that is, when a person gambles they set aside an amount they can afford to lose. If that person loses it all then so be it but hopefully a person doubles their money and if they do then it’s a great day!
Another example of risk is taking a walk in New York’s Central Park at night by yourself, which would be stupid, and a person who does so will probably get robbed or worse. Are the robbers to blame, absolutely! Should they be found and punished and held accountable for their crimes? Without a doubt! Will they be found and brought to justice? Probably not. As infuriating as that may be it is reality.
It is also infuriating when a person blatantly takes advantage of my generosity and good heart as is the case of bargirl Cecille who crosses the line and fabricates a story of false pregnancy in the hopes of scamming some money. Did I "deserve" this kind of treatment? Well, in a certain respect yes. Let’s look at honestly, I went to a bar looking for a sexual encounter with a prostitute (I’m sitting at the casino table). I do so with the full knowledge that I am dealing with the lowest class of poor, uneducated and desperate women (I’m placing my bet). Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose. I must say that I mostly win in these encounters, that is, most women I meet are a lot of fun, and we have great sex together and have no problems afterward. I have even made friends with and keep in touch with several that I’ve met.
In the case of internet dating, I think this is also a case of taking a risk just because you simply cannot know a person online as you would in person. It is just too easy for both parties to lie about anything. Yes there are a lot of scamming girls on these sites, but let’s be honest, there are also a lot of perverts and sleazy characters that prey on the women as well. I’ve heard so many stories from Filpinas (both bargirls and normal girls) where they meet a guy in a chat room or on one of these sites and one of the first things they ask for is for them to show their tits. If you were a nice girl you may get discouraged and give up, or you may learn how to play a game quickly and cash in these perverts. The sad part is there are some nice guys out there and there are nice girls as well but it’s tough for them to find each other.
I know that after 5 trips to the Phils I’ve learned a lot and come a long way, but I still consider myself a newbie that is still learning. I can say that it is easier for me to spot bargirls and scammers on these dating sites now just by looking at profiles. My advice to anyone sitting on the fence is to get on a plane and experience the Philippines first hand.
I guess the key I’ve found is to try and keep a good attitude, when we get scammed or taken advantage of what do you do? You could get angry or look for some kind of retribution, or you could look at it as a life lesson and move on. I personally have tried my best to learn from my experiences and keep a smile on my face, but I can also say that I am not nearly as generous as I was on my first few trips. It’s kinda sad in a way.
Cheers!
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Pussy Size Correlation
I put a question and observation in the "Amateurs" forum. Perhaps someone over here can help me understand why a "pro" pinay could have a tighter pussy then non-pro girl friends I have known.
Is it only that regular use that makes her have a larger kooch? The bar-girl is tighter because she hasn't had much work recently?
These things are mysteries to me, but a source of no small disappointment with some gf I have had. As in, she is a great girl, but.
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Imho
[QUOTE=SpaceHerpes]Hell, if I could get a job there, and make what I make in the states, I would move there for a few years.
I have never paid for it but I certainly have no problems with doing so.
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If you read between the lines, that is one of the problems in the Philippines. There are lots of jobs, but if you work here, you get Filipino pay. I have 20 Filipino employees and they make 350P-500P a day. I asked my company why do we pay them so low and I was told, because that is the normal pay for manual labor. I have been working here for four months, brought over by an American company, so I am getting American pay. I will retire next June and I would love to stay here and live, but I would need an American job to support my lifestyle. I could stay here on my retirement and live a Filipino lifestyle, but I have grown use to my standard of living.
I had a friend who's wife was Filipino and they were married 20 years. he retired in May 2004 and moved to the Philippines and opened a local bar. Six months after he retired he had a heart attack and died. When I spoke to his wife, she told me that maybe he would of lived if they had been near a good hospital. It took them two hours to get him to a major hospital and he died when he arrived. If you choose to live here you give up rights (Police/Fire/Mail...ect) that you pay for (taxes) in another country.
Lastly, is there such a thing as free pussy? IMHO you pay for it one way or another...LOL
Stay Safe,
Robb
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How of
What does it mean when you ask a girl, "If we are married, how often do you want sex?" and she says:
She: "Maybe 4 times a week or twice at night"
Jambo: "Twice at night? Every night?"
She: "Don't know, maybe."
So does that mean, twice every other day, 16 sessions a month? I better get some stock in Levitra.
lol well at least I know she likes sex. I actually heard of a man married a pinay that did not like sex. Imagine that? Must have found the only one in the country. Bad luck.
Could some experienced mongers have a look at my most in the amateurs section and give me an opinion please.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=635310#post635310[/url]
I had a note below, but since I am still being moderated, it got buried.
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[QUOTE=Jambo]What does it mean when you ask a girl, "If we are married, how often do you want sex?" and she says:
She: "Maybe 4 times a week or twice at night"
Jambo: "Twice at night? Every night?"
She: "Don't know, maybe."
So does that mean, twice every other day, 16 sessions a month? I better get some stock in Levitra.
lol well at least I know she likes sex. I actually heard of a man married a pinay that did not like sex. Imagine that? Must have found the only one in the country. Bad luck.
Could some experienced mongers have a look at my most in the amateurs section and give me an opinion please.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=635310#post635310[/url]
I had a note below, but since I am still being moderated, it got buried.[/QUOTE]My future wife told me we can only have sex once a day. To hell with that!! She said she noticed other girls who screwed up a storm, their bodies didn't look the same. Lost weight, maybe a smaller ass or whatever. I just laughed it off as another old Philapina's wive's tale. I then said what does it matter we're gonna be married. She agreed. I'm only there for 7 weeks and no way am I gonna be starving for sex.
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First of all, I think you are leading her on with those kinds of questions. In Asia, things are often communicated ambiguously / indirectly. You may be thinking this is just a philosophical question, but in some asian cultures, that's a marriage proposal.
And then we have her answer... oh boy. Asians tend to tell you what you want to hear. We might think "lie", but they think "keep good relations/communication."
As for your questions about vagina size, I don't think there is any answer. I met a 4'11, 38kilo EDSA girl with two kids who was very, very tight. Then there is the hotel receptionist I've been doing who is all loosy goosy.
In your other post you mention your ex and frequency of sex. Are you sure it was her vagina that had changed or just your sensitivity?
For me, the first night in the Philippines, the lady always seems tight and responsive. The last night is usually a different story. I think after screwing myself silly for two weeks, I'm just not as sensitive.
X Man
[QUOTE=Jambo]What does it mean when you ask a girl, "If we are married, how often do you want sex?" and she says:
She: "Maybe 4 times a week or twice at night"
Jambo: "Twice at night? Every night?"
She: "Don't know, maybe."
So does that mean, twice every other day, 16 sessions a month? I better get some stock in Levitra.
lol well at least I know she likes sex. I actually heard of a man married a pinay that did not like sex. Imagine that? Must have found the only one in the country. Bad luck.
Could some experienced mongers have a look at my most in the amateurs section and give me an opinion please.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=635310#post635310[/url]
I had a note below, but since I am still being moderated, it got buried.[/QUOTE]
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OMG, wouldn't you love to slap the btch?
"....leave immediately...."
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBIU9dAlHGM&mode=related&search=[/url]
X
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I am married to a filipina. At first things were going well so it seemed I lived in my parents basement my own kitchen bathroom. It was free so why not. Then I bought my own house for me and my wife. I put a downpayment payed for renos. She paid for the phone electric, heat after a bit of an argument and amounted to $300 tops a month. I paid the mortage, taxes, food. Then sold, bought another house I put in more of a downpayment and renovated. My wife put nothing down no help for renos but paid phone, electric, heat. Then my wife buys new jeepney for her brothers then later buys a property in Philippines then builds a brand new 3 bedroom 3 bathroom granite countertops stainless steel appliances etc etc for her parents none with my consent. I was pissed she helps her family I have a impossibletime getting her to help with any additional expenses with the house. So be aware your the husband but her family may come first not saying all are like this I have asked other filipinas and they send money but not that much.
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all of them
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]... So be aware your the husband but her family may come first ... not saying all are like this ... I have asked other filipinas and they send money but not that much...[/QUOTE]
TR:
So very true! A simple rule in terms of importance is: first comes always her family in the Philippines (parents, brothers and sisters), then there is a huge gap and maybe later comes her own foreign husband. I am almost 100% certain that all of them are like that (seems to be their culture!)!
BTW, a wise mongerer in AC told me once: "if you wanna have hot sex, marry a Filipina; but if you are looking for true love, better go for a dog!" It's not bad, isn't it!? :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
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Utang na loob and its consequences...
The phrase "utang na loob" in Tagalog means (I think) an obligation from the heart, and its a central, if not the central premise of Philippine culture. It implies a debt that children have to their parents for the very fact of being born, and it's a debt that's never fully repaid. It's part of who they are and, though the sense of obligation is stronger in some than in others, it accounts for the reason that Filipinas will sacrifice almost everything else in their lives to support their parents and, to some extent, other members of their families. This sense of obligation trumps every other commitment in their lives in many cases and is not looked on as a choice but as something that they must do.
If you talk to young sex workers in this country you will find in many, if not most cases, that the lady is doing what she's doing in order to support her parents and often her younger siblings. She's not exchanging sex for money cause she wants to, but to discharge the enormous sense of obligation she feels to provide money for her parent's support, and often for the support of her own young child. And it's this sense of partial repayment of the debt that lets her overcome the sense of shame at what she's doing since the "rightness" of satisfying the obligation transcends the "wrongness" of working in the commercial sex trade.
The trick, when looking for a Filipina partner is to find one whose sense of utang na loob is not strong or is non-existent. I was lucky in that case, and my wife feels none of it, so it's never been an issue with us. In TrickyRick's case, at least his wife spent her own funds, presumably, for her parents. This is much better than some cases I know of where the wife was constantly after the husband to provide funds for the family back in the Philippines.
In most cases though it's better to recognize that this is part of the package when you establish a long-term relationship with a Filipina, and it's best to discuss the whole matter up front, before you commit yourself to something in the longer term. Many couples I know make an agreement up front about how much, if anything, they will send to her family and under what circumstances. In my case, I made it very clear that the answer was zero but, as I said, in my case, there was no argument since my wife doesn't much like her parents and felt exactly the same way.
GE
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]
The trick, when looking for a Filipina partner is to find one whose sense of utang na loob is not strong or is non-existent. I was lucky in that case, and my wife feels none of it...
GE[/QUOTE]
Wow you are a lucky man, not very many filippina women like that!
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]
... Many couples I know make an agreement up front about how much, if anything, they will send to her family and under what circumstances...
GE[/QUOTE]
Gud luck with that to any punter!
These prenup discussions soon get forgotten when father/brother/baby cousin comes down with a terminal illness/hits financial crisis etc etc.
Happy mongering
Amavida
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Family obligations...
Yes, I was lucky but my situation is not unique. The best way to test the strength of a Filipina's sense of obligation to her family is to live with her for quite a while prior to making any sort of legal commitment. If the family is going to view the foreigner as a walking, talking ATM, it won't take long before the requests start and the "emergencies" come to the fore. Once they do, it's easy enough to see how the lady responds. If you've chosen someone who is reasonably mature, it also ought to be easy to lay down the law from the beginning of the relationship. In my case, I just let it be known that I was not going to contribute for anything under any set of circumstances. I was never tested on this because, as I said, my wife's sense of utang na loob is so weak that it might as well not be there at all. Having said that, we've bought the (very) occasional sack of rice, but it's not on any sort of regular basis.
To give you an example, my wife's younger sister (27) recently gave birth to her 6th or 7th child and my wife got an emergency call asking for money to pay the hospital bill. Her response? "No one told you to get pregnant every year and to have babies you cannot afford to raise. You're on your own." I did not prompt this response.
It's quite possible to find women who do not feel this stultifying sense of duty and obligation. All it takes is a little looking and some well-focused questioning before any commitments are made.
GE
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Family obligations
Gentlemen,
I am half pinoy, but born in California and completely culturally american. During my visits I have learned of the preeminance of family obligations. I do get annoyed by the requests for cash. But there is a positive side to it. My long lost family in the PI will do anything for me. I find it refreshing compared to the western values of individuality above all else. I do not wish to live in the PI with the all encompassing family obligations, but there is value to it.
Luvuloongtime
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My views on family requests
Having been married to one for a length of time I can add to the discussion. My wifes family have almost never ever asked. Weve seen many colleagues who are hit from the dying caribou to braces for the neighbours kids etc. But my family (in laws) almost never.
Once there was a car crash and money was urgently needed (hospitals don't do anything in Manila without advanced or secured payment.). So on this ocassion I came to the rescue. And over the next 6 months it was repaid by the family. Small notes at a time.
Another time there was an unexpected baby (if there is such a thing) and we contributed extra for a cot etc. And beyond that thats all thats happened. Probably even less than a western family might ask maybe.
I certainly got lucky. But agani its all down to selection and knowing the rules in advance.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Wow you are a lucky man, not very many filippina women like that!
Gud luck with that to any punter!
These prenup discussions soon get forgotten when father/brother/baby cousin comes down with a terminal illness/hits financial crisis etc etc.
Happy mongering,
Amavida[/QUOTE]I disagree and agree with the other few comments below. If a relationship is becoming serious it has to be made known that nothing is going to be given unless you want to. To the extent that the future wife has to realise that choosing a westerner means that his rules go. Never had a problem although I've kicked out a few who tried
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I've recently returned from my first trip to the phils, and have been slack in not posting a report. Reading through this thread tonight and reading some of the similarities of what happenend to me has lead me to finally post.
I've mongered throughout SE Asia for around 7 years, and I've paid for it and I've got it for free, and I've been scammed and I've learnt from it, and I feel now I have a very good understanding of what is happening in MOST situations.
This was my first trip to phils so I thought I would try the online option to meet some girls before I got there. I joined FH and received a stack of replies. I spent about a month online, chatting with alot of girls, weeding out the cam girls, and the scammers. I got my list and all my grand plans of meeting them when i got there.
Anyways, I arrived and got to my hotel and jumped online. As soon as I did I got chatting with a new girl I hadn't seen before. She seemed cool, 26yo, seemed educated, so I got her number and called her. She also gave me her work number and said I could call her their as it was cheaper. She spoke well and we decided to meet up the next night.
So the night arrives and she tells me she will meet me at my hotel. She arrives in a cab to pick me up and we head out. When we arrive at the bar she pays the taxi fare, then pays the cover charge into the bar. Then at the end of the night she demands she pays the bar bill. We then take a taxi back to the hotel and she pays for that aswell.
So far I'm thinking this is fantastic. It hasn't cost me a cent, and we clicked really well, and she has come back to my hotel. perfect.
So we do the deed, and she stays for a while the next day and then leaves. I then had to head down south for business for a week and thats when i get the call from her saying she is pregnant (which was very possible). I tell her to go and get a test from the chemist. She gets back to me and tells me it's positive. I then tell her to go to the doctor and get a test. She gets back to me and tells me it's positive. I tell her I'll see her when I get back to Manila.
So I get back and we organise another night out. In the cab she shows me the positive test kit and a report from the doctor. I think ok, but I have a feeling it's a scam as the doctors report doesn't have a date on it. Anyway we still go out and have a great time. In my drunken state during the night I tell her that if she wants anything from me she must first, let me see her take the test, second, let me come to the doctors with her, and third, if they are positive then we have to test that it is infact mine. Anyway the same thing happens and she pays for everything again that night.
A few days later she tells me she has taken some medicine to stop the birth. Then after I leave the phils and get home she tells me she has been to a doctor and had it all taken care of.
At no stage did she ever ask for any money. Infact quite the opposite.
I know she has a good job. I know where she works, and have called her there and checked out the company is real.
She calls me now, and said she is willing to pay her own airfare to come and see me.
I thought this was all fantastic until I read all the posts here regarding the pregnancy scam. It was all so similar.
So whats happening here?
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Kavorka - you stud!
so you got one hot little filipina to fall madly in love with you. Now you have to decide if you want to keep her or not, because she seems ver intent on keeping YOU! No red flags that I can see.....
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Need More research!
[QUOTE=Kavorka341]I've recently returned from my first trip to the phils, and have been slack in not posting a report. Reading through this thread tonight and reading some of the similarities of what happenend to me has lead me to finally post.
I've mongered throughout SE Asia for around 7 years, and I've paid for it and I've got it for free, and I've been scammed and I've learnt from it, and I feel now I have a very good understanding of what is happening in MOST situations.
This was my first trip to phils so I thought I would try the online option to meet some girls before I got there. I joined FH and received a stack of replies. I spent about a month online, chatting with alot of girls, weeding out the cam girls, and the scammers. I got my list and all my grand plans of meeting them when i got there.
Anyways, I arrived and got to my hotel and jumped online. As soon as I did I got chatting with a new girl I hadn't seen before. She seemed cool, 26yo, seemed educated, so I got her number and called her. She also gave me her work number and said I could call her their as it was cheaper. She spoke well and we decided to meet up the next night.
So the night arrives and she tells me she will meet me at my hotel. She arrives in a cab to pick me up and we head out. When we arrive at the bar she pays the taxi fare, then pays the cover charge into the bar. Then at the end of the night she demands she pays the bar bill. We then take a taxi back to the hotel and she pays for that aswell.
So far I'm thinking this is fantastic. It hasn't cost me a cent, and we clicked really well, and she has come back to my hotel. perfect.
So we do the deed, and she stays for a while the next day and then leaves. I then had to head down south for business for a week and thats when i get the call from her saying she is pregnant (which was very possible). I tell her to go and get a test from the chemist. She gets back to me and tells me it's positive. I then tell her to go to the doctor and get a test. She gets back to me and tells me it's positive. I tell her I'll see her when I get back to Manila.
So I get back and we organise another night out. In the cab she shows me the positive test kit and a report from the doctor. I think ok, but I have a feeling it's a scam as the doctors report doesn't have a date on it. Anyway we still go out and have a great time. In my drunken state during the night I tell her that if she wants anything from me she must first, let me see her take the test, second, let me come to the doctors with her, and third, if they are positive then we have to test that it is infact mine. Anyway the same thing happens and she pays for everything again that night.
A few days later she tells me she has taken some medicine to stop the birth. Then after I leave the phils and get home she tells me she has been to a doctor and had it all taken care of.
At no stage did she ever ask for any money. Infact quite the opposite.
I know she has a good job. I know where she works, and have called her there and checked out the company is real.
She calls me now, and said she is willing to pay her own airfare to come and see me.
I thought this was all fantastic until I read all the posts here regarding the pregnancy scam. It was all so similar.
So whats happening here?
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You need to find out her source of money and background. I would be highly suspicious. If she is from a rich family, then you should be safe.
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[QUOTE=Kavorka341]
She calls me now, and said she is willing to pay her own airfare to come and see me.
I thought this was all fantastic until I read all the posts here regarding the pregnancy scam. It was all so similar.
So whats happening here?
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Looks like she badly wants to go the US and is willing to invest a little in her plan. When you didn't fall for the preggy thing (and didn't offer to "do the right thing" blah blah..) she's simply moving on to plan B.
Of course it could be pure filipina love too :D
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CA, Fastpiston and Pute Nut, thanks for the comments.
I am back in phils tomorrow for a few weeks business so will be sussing her out some more.
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[QUOTE=Kavorka341]I am back in phils tomorrow for a few weeks business so will be sussing her out some more.[/QUOTE]
Everything sounds good ... just move on when you get tired of her taking you out, booming and paying
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Great story.. pregnancy included.
From the way the story reads I don't think theres any issues.
Theres no legal implication that it was yours and maybe now she just wants a ticket out of there.
I've lived in Manila for 5 years. Mongered in there for 20. And married one.
Your story reads like you got lucky with a gal who is well off. It happens.
Easy for you to check the money side. Check the family name. Remember in the Phils, thats 90 % of the wealth is owned by 10% of the country. And of that 10% theres about 50 families and their extended branches who control that.
Id relax. And determine if you want her in the US. The other thing is to determine if she can get the visa. Remember 92% of all visa applications get rejected at the Embassy. If she can get a visa its because shes got money. AND connections.
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Irony
I know its not a current topic, but I was thinking about this today... I'm married to a pinay and have dated some chat girls on the side during visits. And here is one thing I noticed that I find ironic.
Look around their house and you'll find the couch, the TV remotes the iPod all wrapped in plastic to protect them. But.... Take them to bed and they do not want to wrap yours up in plastic...
The asawa "hates the feeling" The cam girls say the same thing, but I think they want to get knocked up (or be able to say they are) to scam you.
Just thought this was funny
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[QUOTE=Hobby Knob]I know its not a current topic, but I was thinking about this today... I'm married to a pinay and have dated some chat girls on the side during visits. And here is one thing I noticed that I find ironic.
Look around their house and you'll find the couch, the TV remotes the iPod all wrapped in plastic to protect them. But.... Take them to bed and they do not want to wrap yours up in plastic...
The asawa "hates the feeling" The cam girls say the same thing, but I think they want to get knocked up (or be able to say they are) to scam you.
Just thought this was funny[/QUOTE]
Part is also mental. Using a condom is associated with prostitution.
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[QUOTE=Kavorka341]I then had to head down south for business for a week and thats when i get the call from her saying she is pregnant [/QUOTE]Positive pregnancy test after one week? I don't think so.[QUOTE]A few days later she tells me she has taken some medicine to stop the birth. Then after I leave the phils and get home she tells me she has been to a doctor and had it all taken care of.[/QUOTE]They don't have RU486 or abortionists in the Phils. What happened is that you successfully called her bluff.
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One man's experience
Bashing the Filipina ladies is just plane wrong. Here is why. So what if they want some happiness, don't everyone? I married one, yea and she was a bar girl and we had a good time for four days and she ask me to marry her and I did. That was thirty two years ago. Well long story short she is gone now. But she was the most wonderful person I could have ever spent my life with. She was strong willed to survive. We had three babies, the oldest is a Hydro Dam operater, the second teaches college and the third is in his first year of college. When we married we had $6. 00 to our name, yes it was a hard life we shared together, we roofed houses, we did every honest job we could find, we survived, she stuck by me through my bi-poplar and all my stupid decisions. My sweet pe-pie passed this time last year with cancer and fought it to the end so please I beg you lay off those girls or just walk right on by your not good enough for them. This is not my experience but someone else thought it would be good to post.
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Good advice
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]Bashing the Filipina ladies is just plane wrong. Here is why. So what if they want some happiness, don't everyone? I married one, yea and she was a bar girl and we had a good time for four days and she ask me to marry her and I did. That was thirty two years ago. Well long story short she is gone now. But she was the most wonderful person I could have ever spent my life with. She was strong willed to survive. We had three babies, the oldest is a Hydro Dam operater, the second teaches college and the third is in his first year of college. When we married we had $6. 00 to our name, yes it was a hard life we shared together, we roofed houses, we did every honest job we could find, we survived, she stuck by me through my bi-poplar and all my stupid decisions. My sweet pe-pie passed this time last year with cancer and fought it to the end so please I beg you lay off those girls or just walk right on by your not good enough for them. This is not my experience but someone else thought it would be good to post.[/QUOTE]Good report TR.
The main thing is that you have found happiness with your lady regardless if she was a bar girl previously. I know a few so called "LADIES" mainly European with a very nice and comfortable upbringing, got married to nice and proffesional men which looked after them to the extreme, bought their wives new cars, they never let them work also, because the men were earning good money, and guess what? the so called "LADIES" as soon as they reached about 40-45 years of age, I believe they got bored with their better half and they wanted to divorce them (most likely they found toyboys). IMHO I believe they were playing the field for quite a while behind their husbands back. The reason for the divorce was that THEY WERE NOT COMPATIBLE. It took them about 25 years to find that out. IMHO they had too much free time on their hands and that equallity crap as well. My point is a BAR GIRL got transformed into a LADY and the so called LADIES got transformed into PROS, especially now that the husbands assets have grown conciderably and they will get half the assets.
I wish you good luck and keep your chin up.
Acemanmax
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[QUOTE=TrickyRick]Bashing the Filipina ladies is just plane wrong. Here is why. So what if they want some happiness, don't everyone? I married one, yea and she was a bar girl and we had a good time for four days and she ask me to marry her and I did. That was thirty two years ago. Well long story short she is gone now. But she was the most wonderful person I could have ever spent my life with. She was strong willed to survive. We had three babies, the oldest is a Hydro Dam operater, the second teaches college and the third is in his first year of college. When we married we had $6. 00 to our name, yes it was a hard life we shared together, we roofed houses, we did every honest job we could find, we survived, she stuck by me through my bi-poplar and all my stupid decisions. My sweet pe-pie passed this time last year with cancer and fought it to the end so please I beg you lay off those girls or just walk right on by your not good enough for them. This is not my experience but someone else thought it would be good to post.[/QUOTE]You Sir, have my deepest sympathy to the loss of your wife and my respect of your life!
Mr Durex
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[QUOTE=TrickyRick]Bashing the Filipina ladies is just plane wrong. Here is why. So what if they want some happiness, don't everyone? I married one, yea and she was a bar girl and we had a good time for four days and she ask me to marry her and I did. That was thirty two years ago. Well long story short she is gone now. But she was the most wonderful person I could have ever spent my life with. She was strong willed to survive. We had three babies, the oldest is a Hydro Dam operater, the second teaches college and the third is in his first year of college. When we married we had $6. 00 to our name, yes it was a hard life we shared together, we roofed houses, we did every honest job we could find, we survived, she stuck by me through my bi-poplar and all my stupid decisions. My sweet pe-pie passed this time last year with cancer and fought it to the end so please I beg you lay off those girls or just walk right on by your not good enough for them. This is not my experience but someone else thought it would be good to post.[/QUOTE]
Wonderful...She was his soulmate...LOVE is NEVER LOST...It is ETERNAL..TRUE love is infact the shadow of the alimighty......they would be together in next life for sure....The universe will adjust this world to bring them together..
It sounds un-scientific..but only if all of humanity could find SOUL MATE....we all are trying to find one..these frustation, debate will go on till we find our true love and when we do..its all Bliss and Peace
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Would a Filipino family go along with saying a girl is single even if she is not? My girlfriend is visiting family in the PI over the holidays. I've talked on the phone with her mom, dad, sister & brother. She has video web chatted to her mom, dad & lola with me present. But I have also seen a text message on her phone calling her asawa.
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Quotable Quote
[QUOTE=Dildo Danny]
Some of the most genuine ladies I've ever met were girls I've bar fined.[/QUOTE]
That actually makes a really good quote - in addition to it being the pearl of wisdom that is surely is...
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Newbie seeking advice- meet more than one gal?
For sh*ts and giggles, I started talking to a gal in Manila I met on DAI, studying to take a nursing exam to be able to work in the US. She is 23, gorgeous, yet a bit immature sometime. We've had long chats on the YM and webcam and is the real deal as far as her looks go. She has sent some provactive pics with her in panties and t-shirt. Granted I'm a decent looking, younger guy who loves filipinas (actually I just caught yellow fever), but still who knows of her true intentions, yet everything she says checks out
Now, whenever I go to DAI website, she will check if I'm there and will be quite jealous. She professes strong feelings, and I've even seen her reveal those feelings on the webcam after she asked if I would stop talking to her if I met someone else in the US. She's never asked for money and seems to be sweet and submissive (when she speaks English), emails constantly, and even puts my pics on her friendster page.
I like this gal, but take it with a grain of salt, who knows what can happen, she might meet someone else, she might have bad breath, and so on. I plan on taking a trip in March, and would like to know if I should implement a plan B in case things go south with this gal?
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Yes you should if possible have plans B, C and D. None of your targets will be really surprised if an internet contact does not actually show up. Further, consider whether you can live with a girl so jealous and possessive. Perhaps you can use your alternates to inoculate her.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]For sh*ts and giggles, I started talking to a gal in Manila I met on DAI, studying to take a nursing exam to be able to work in the US. She is 23, gorgeous, yet a bit immature sometime. We've had long chats on the YM and webcam and is the real deal as far as her looks go. She has sent some provactive pics with her in panties and t-shirt. Granted I'm a decent looking, younger guy who loves filipinas (actually I just caught yellow fever), but still who knows of her true intentions, yet everything she says checks out
Now, whenever I go to DAI website, she will check if I'm there and will be quite jealous. She professes strong feelings, and I've even seen her reveal those feelings on the webcam after she asked if I would stop talking to her if I met someone else in the US. She's never asked for money and seems to be sweet and submissive (when she speaks English), emails constantly, and even puts my pics on her friendster page.
I like this gal, but take it with a grain of salt, who knows what can happen, she might meet someone else, she might have bad breath, and so on. I plan on taking a trip in March, and would like to know if I should implement a plan B in case things go south with this gal?[/QUOTE]
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Yes, plan b would be very wise. Sorry for prying, but what is plan A?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]For sh*ts and giggles, I started talking to a gal in Manila I met on DAI, studying to take a nursing exam to be able to work in the US. She is 23, gorgeous, yet a bit immature sometime. We've had long chats on the YM and webcam and is the real deal as far as her looks go. She has sent some provactive pics with her in panties and t-shirt. Granted I'm a decent looking, younger guy who loves filipinas (actually I just caught yellow fever), but still who knows of her true intentions, yet everything she says checks out
Now, whenever I go to DAI website, she will check if I'm there and will be quite jealous. She professes strong feelings, and I've even seen her reveal those feelings on the webcam after she asked if I would stop talking to her if I met someone else in the US. She's never asked for money and seems to be sweet and submissive (when she speaks English), emails constantly, and even puts my pics on her friendster page.
I like this gal, but take it with a grain of salt, who knows what can happen, she might meet someone else, she might have bad breath, and so on. I plan on taking a trip in March, and would like to know if I should implement a plan B in case things go south with this gal?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]For sh*ts and giggles, I started talking to a gal in Manila I met on DAI, studying to take a nursing exam to be able to work in the US. She is 23, gorgeous, yet a bit immature sometime. We've had long chats on the YM and webcam and is the real deal as far as her looks go. She has sent some provactive pics with her in panties and t-shirt. Granted I'm a decent looking, younger guy who loves filipinas (actually I just caught yellow fever), but still who knows of her true intentions, yet everything she says checks out
Now, whenever I go to DAI website, she will check if I'm there and will be quite jealous. She professes strong feelings, and I've even seen her reveal those feelings on the webcam after she asked if I would stop talking to her if I met someone else in the US. She's never asked for money and seems to be sweet and submissive (when she speaks English), emails constantly, and even puts my pics on her friendster page.
I like this gal, but take it with a grain of salt, who knows what can happen, she might meet someone else, she might have bad breath, and so on. I plan on taking a trip in March, and would like to know if I should implement a plan B in case things go south with this gal?[/QUOTE]
I always have many plans - never sure if A, B C D etc just many - as you may find things change daily of not hourly. Should be Manila very soon and have a number of options lined up in case person 1 or 2,3.... decides not to show up.
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[QUOTE=X Man]Yes, plan b would be very wise. Sorry for prying, but what is plan A?[/QUOTE]Not a problem. As it turns out, I might as well not even tell you plan A because it will most likely not come to fruition LOL.
Last week she said she was going to Sigalug (spell? ) festival in Cebu with her friends and that she would be gone about 5-6 days. I get an email from her on the 6th day and she says her best friend convinced her to come back home (in Davao) and basically it was a nice to know ya, I miss ya, I don't get internet in the house so it will be impossibe to chat with you anymore. At least she did email me, rather than leave me hanging I suppose, but either way it's the same result, more or less.
I presume she chatted me up to assuage her ego, she was pretty bored and lonely in Manila, being that she was always on her laptop and knew nobody there.
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Need Help To Navigate Minefield...
Okay here is a question I would like answered by someone experienced with Filipinas. This is a topic best avoided with ANY woman, because there is no correct answer, any response will be the wrong answer. I have learned this the hard way before and am not about to be burned again, hence the need for advice. I have been chatting with a real sweetheart online for a month or two and she just asked me how many girls I have had sex with in my life. My reaction was immediately "NO WAYYYY" and I basically told her that I was not prepared to answer that question based on the fact that I didnt feel comfortable sharing that info with her at this point in our relationship. Nor did I wish to be judged by someone such as her, who has little to no life experience.
Anyways, predictably, it got ugly really quicky, as you all know how totally prone to misunderstanding and irrational Filipinas can be, despite the mutual understanding of a common language. We had a massive argument about it and now she says I dont care about her because I am keeping secrets from her and I dont trust her bla bla bla etc. I have told her it is not a secret, it is just something I will maybe tell her later when I am ready, but she is having none of that. This is not going to go away despite my best efforts.
Now everything is relative of course, to a virgin (which she is), even a small number of previous partners will seem like an awful lot to her. For example, if I say 20 then I am worried that even that number will seem horrifying to her (living in SEA the real number is obviously a lot more than that, especially if you include P4P ;)). So I will have no choice but to lie. No two ways about that, but what is good figure to make up which will appease her? Also, what is a good reason to avoid telling her which she will accept? So far she just refuses to accept all the very reasonable ones I have given her. So I will HAVE to tell her something, but what? I need to give her a number, but it has to be a number that will not scare her off. She is a real gem and someone I will regret ditching or being ditched by, therefore I dont want to lose her over this. All advice and opinions appreciated! (PM if you prefer)
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Sounds fishy to me. You can get Internet in Davao at Net cafe for 10 pesos per hour. I think her "best friend" has a penis.
On the other hand maybe you had regularly scheduled chats and she simply was telling you that she could no longer do that.
Davao is a nice place to visit, BTW.
Can you send me one of these pictures you were telling us about?
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]Not a problem. As it turns out, I might as well not even tell you plan A because it will most likely not come to fruition LOL.
Last week she said she was going to Sigalug (spell? ) festival in Cebu with her friends and that she would be gone about 5-6 days. I get an email from her on the 6th day and she says her best friend convinced her to come back home (in Davao) and basically it was a nice to know ya, I miss ya, I don't get internet in the house so it will be impossibe to chat with you anymore. At least she did email me, rather than leave me hanging I suppose, but either way it's the same result, more or less.
I presume she chatted me up to assuage her ego, she was pretty bored and lonely in Manila, being that she was always on her laptop and knew nobody there.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=L A Guy]I have been chatting with a real sweetheart online for a month or two and she just asked me how many girls I have had sex with in my life.
She is a real gem and someone I will regret ditching or being ditched by, therefore I dont want to lose her over this. All advice and opinions appreciated! (PM if you prefer)[/QUOTE]I think it was a mistake to tell her you were "not prepared to discuss it" at this early point in the relationship. At this point I don't think any number will work. Even two is probably one too many, assuming she really is a virgin, and besides, she's already angry. Don't rule out the possibility she's not really a virgin, and she's testing you to find out how shocked you might be to know the truth about her.
I think I might have told her something like this:
"I have had sex with a very few women, and each experience was very special and very private. Imagine for a moment that you and I had sex some day. It would be special, and it would be private, and it would be nobody else's business. To talk to other women about it would be violating your privacy and would be disrespectful of how special it was between us. So for the same reason I would never tell other people about something like that between you and me, I cannot disrespect any previous partner I've been with by telling you about it. I'm sorry you think I'm keeping secrets, and, to tell the truth, it is secret. It's not me I need to protect, it's them. It would be a secret if anything sexual ever happened between us, and for exactly the same reason I would refuse to disrespect you by telling other people about us. I want you to know that this is the kind of person I am. I do not kiss and tell, and I do not violate the privacy of people I care about."
A pack of lies? Totally. But I'm thinking your only hope now is to use this ploy to redirect the conversation. Maybe you can still weasel out of this by making her feel that you will treat her very, very special.
ps. As many mongers have said in many different ways: virgins aren't worth the hassle. You need to be really honest with yourself about whether this one is.
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LA Guy, she sounds manipulative your reaction was right the real question she should be asking is how faithful are you going to be with her if you are going to be together what you did before you met her is not her business. To get into an argument over your past experiences before you even met the girl is worriesome and a bad indication. She has to respect your wishes just AS YOU WOULD RESPECT HERS.
She lives in the Philipines where men are always after sex (Is that comment redundant?) She cannot live in that country and expect a man to be virginous. The women I talk with seem more interested in whether I am a wife beater and non provider.
Anyway I dont know what I am talking about except the manipulation bit.
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Now everything is relative of course, to a virgin (which she is), even a small number of previous partners will seem like an awful lot to her. For example, if I say 20 then I am worried that even that number will seem horrifying to her (living in SEA the real number is obviously a lot more than that, especially if you include P4P ;)). So I will have no choice but to lie. No two ways about that, but what is good figure to make up which will appease her? Also, what is a good reason to avoid telling her which she will accept?
I have been asked this questions many times ! I have never given an answer!
Its that simple , as i would not be able to know how many never kept a total I did for 5 weeks in cebu 17 girls but hey i am 51 now, did the russian thing before they stopped me going etc.
Just use your words wisely, make them feel special to you and your future. then you don't have to answer!
I always start by saying that i never counted as each time was for love, that you where in love with the girl. If you had i kept a count that would mean you where only after sex ! but this is not who you are! then go on saying that its a good thin as you have learn't how to treat a lady with respect and to make her feel on a cloud etc!
So that when we do make love for the first time she will be so thankful for my expereince as it will be so lovly and gentle, and that she will never ever think about another man as , she will have found her true soul mate in mind , body and dreams!
This is total bull shit but its what they want to hear ok. they know already you had lots, but they need to justify it themselves in their mind. Thats all shes looking for a way to accept your past.
Learn to write to them with this in mind, tell them what you think they want to hear, its a way of saving face for them. This is very important to Filipino's always must save face, no this always give them a chance to save face and you will enjoy your time there so much more even if with a taxi driver etc. use this tactic to give then a way out with saving their face okay mate,
good luck
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I'm a virgin
Great posts already by Porty and Bilbo, so I don't have much to add.
To expand on Porty's idea, you have to accept that the logic is different. In her culture, saving face is logical. Fibs and bullshit and temper tantrums .... to save face is perfectly logical in that culture.
Does that make any sense at all? You have to avoid the temptation to apply your logic to their logic.
I suppost my answer to her question would have been either "Hundreds, too many to count", or , "I'm a virgin...I've been waiting for you." Laugh, then change the subject.
Nevertheless, friction at this point is problematic. Maybe ignore her for a while and see if she changes her tune. If you let her take charge, you might as well mail her your bank card and your testicles.
On the subject of unexplained anger, I recently got an ugly email from a (former) chat friend. I flew into Cebu and also visited Davao during the holidays. She works in MNL and visited her hometown in CDO for the holidays. I wanted to meet her, but things didn't work out for a variety of reasons -- one of which was she replied to my text with, "who are you?" (Yes, I had typed in my name.) I never promised anything beforehand. Anyway, I sent a message saying I was disappointed that I didn't get to meet her.
Wow, I was "trying to trick girls" and I'm a "bastard" and "don't every bother me again."
Too bad, she was hot. Remind me to post her G rated picture.
X
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Update
Ok, she can use her cellphone for sms yahoo (I live in the US) and she now says she is coming back to Manila next Friday.
BTW, she doesn't use the internet cafe, she has her own studio, laptop, and internet connection in Manila. She mentioned a city in Metro Manila, but I forget the name of it. I talked to a filipina friend of mine here in the States and she said some of what she says is kinda iffy, but not impossible. To be fair, there's a lot of stuff that checks out (saw her friendster page before I knew she had one), so it's hard to say she's lying.
Xman, I'll get those pics out to ya, give me 24 hours though LOL.
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Love is blind....and Internet love is deaf dumb and blind. (sorry if that isn't PC).
You sound obsessed Tony. We all get there from time to time, I'm not being judgmental. If this lady is sometimes flirting and sometimes aloof, it's understandable. You only know her online. There have probably been guys who've come and gone already -- especially if she has her own "studio".
Studio?
My advice is find a few other ladies (see posts on the CHAT thread), keep chatting with this lady but cool it down a bit, and somehow find a way to meet here face to face. My advice is not to send any money, nor make any promises.
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]Ok, she can use her cellphone for sms yahoo (I live in the US) and she now says she is coming back to Manila next Friday.
BTW, she doesn't use the internet cafe, she has her own studio, laptop, and internet connection in Manila. She mentioned a city in Metro Manila, but I forget the name of it. I talked to a filipina friend of mine here in the States and she said some of what she says is kinda iffy, but not impossible. To be fair, there's a lot of stuff that checks out (saw her friendster page before I knew she had one), so it's hard to say she's lying.
Xman, I'll get those pics out to ya, give me 24 hours though LOL.[/QUOTE]
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I Am (Not) A Virgin...
[QUOTE=X Man]
Nevertheless, friction at this point is problematic. Maybe ignore her for a while and see if she changes her tune. If you let her take charge, you might as well mail her your bank card and your testicles. [/QUOTE]
Thanks to Bilbo, Porty, Skip Kost (you guys certainly have a gift for coming up with that romantic BS, I bow to you masters :)). Also thanks X Man for your input into my little dilemma. I highlight your quote above purely because you are spot on with that, and I agree 100%. I knew from the beginning that if I backed down then it would be all over. I let her stew for a while but things have started to pick up again. She really seems to be great girl so far, and I would have been disappointed if I had been forced to ditch her. She seems to like me so I will go with the flow and see where it all ends up. Things can only go so far with online chat though, so I have to try and sustain things until I get over there and meet up with her. Then I will know for sure if she is worth the effort or not. But so far no clues as to alterior motives, and no requests for financial aid in 2 months of chatting. Watch this space!
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Number of true love
Translate SEX with MAKE LOVE, and just tell her the number of people you truly loved and made loved with. This way, all details about the relationship will also touch her heart :)
[QUOTE=L A Guy]Thanks to Bilbo, Porty, Skip Kost (you guys certainly have a gift for coming up with that romantic BS, I bow to you masters :)). Also thanks X Man for your input into my little dilemma. I highlight your quote above purely because you are spot on with that, and I agree 100%. I knew from the beginning that if I backed down then it would be all over. I let her stew for a while but things have started to pick up again. She really seems to be great girl so far, and I would have been disappointed if I had been forced to ditch her. She seems to like me so I will go with the flow and see where it all ends up. Things can only go so far with online chat though, so I have to try and sustain things until I get over there and meet up with her. Then I will know for sure if she is worth the effort or not. But so far no clues as to alterior motives, and no requests for financial aid in 2 months of chatting. Watch this space![/QUOTE]
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Wow, if this works for you, good on you man. Seems like your doing the etymology...but that's okay.
I avoid the love word. The word "like" works almost as well. Mix things up a bit and while you're thrusting away, throw in a "I love fucking you." It's best to do this at climax, because it gets them thinking about what you really mean.
And you do know what i mean, don't you?
[QUOTE=Member #3119]Translate SEX with MAKE LOVE, and just tell her the number of people you truly loved and made loved with. This way, all details about the relationship will also touch her heart :)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=L A Guy] But so far no clues as to alterior motives, and no requests for financial aid in 2 months of chatting.[/QUOTE]
Greencard
sponsor her family out of PI and into USA
Money
sob stories about her family's misfortunes
financially support her family every month
send back money to her family secretly, then tell you she does not make that much at her usa job, so you end up buying everything and paying for al the bills.
half your assets
power over you
support her family
bound you with a child
child support
place your balls in a vice
play you like a puppet
make your life a living hell
support her boyfriend and his family
make you pay for yearly trips back to PI to visit family and boyfriend
buy all kind of shit from usa to bring back to PI
She's got you hooked, she's just trying to reel you in. If she asks for money this early on in the relationship, she's going to lose you. Don't worry, it will come.
Rule #1: Never fall in love with a girl from another country, unless they are richer than you. The odds of you finding a true loving girl, without alternative motives, are highly against you.
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Watch out
[QUOTE=Dan Hawaii]
Rule #1: Never fall in love with a girl from another country, unless they are richer than you. The odds of you finding a true loving girl, without alternative motives, are highly against you.[/QUOTE]
From my pillow talk with the hundreds (well, ok dozens)of Pinays I have banged, the common theme is that FAMILY IS EVERYTHING and your the outsider.
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[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]From my pillow talk with the hundreds (well, ok dozens)of Pinays I have banged, the common theme is that FAMILY IS EVERYTHING and your the outsider.[/QUOTE]That isn't true with all Filipinas and this type of blanket statement doesn't fit every girl.
I am married to a Filipina now for 5 years and for us it is the exact opposite.Since the beginning of our marriage I have always come before her family. As of now, she doesn't want to have anything to do with her family at all. In fact she said she really doesn't care to ever see them again. It's a long story but after helping them to get on their feet they got too greedy. This pissed off my wife and she cut them off.
It is true that the family is important to a Filipina, and many use it as an excuse to fleece a guy, but also remember there are many that will make sure that their husband is first. Then if there is anything left it goes to her family.
Mike
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[QUOTE=Dan Hawaii]Greencard
sponsor her family out of PI and into USA
Money
sob stories about her family's misfortunes
financially support her family every month
send back money to her family secretly, then tell you she does not make that much at her usa job, so you end up buying everything and paying for al the bills.
half your assets
power over you
support her family
bound you with a child
child support
place your balls in a vice
play you like a puppet
make your life a living hell
support her boyfriend and his family
make you pay for yearly trips back to PI to visit family and boyfriend
buy all kind of shit from usa to bring back to PI
She's got you hooked, she's just trying to reel you in. If she asks for money this early on in the relationship, she's going to lose you. Don't worry, it will come.
Rule #1: Never fall in love with a girl from another country, unless they are richer than you. The odds of you finding a true loving girl, without alternative motives, are highly against you. [/QUOTE]Wow, most of those items in your list sounds like you're describing an American woman.
Anyway, I am married to a Filipina and never encountered any of the items you have listed on your list, at least from a Filipina. But from my experience, and my wife backs me up on this from her experience and knowledge, your list mainly fits the girl that works in the sex trade.
It use to be that if you got a girl from the province you were pretty safe and wouldn't run into a scammer. My wife is from Leyte. But now many of these girls (from the province) are learning from girls that come back from; AC, Manila, Makati, and even Cebu, on how to scam a guy. Well all good things eventually come to an end. It doesn't mean that there aren't any good girls left, it mean it will take more time to find the right one.
As for your Rule #1, I would say never fall in love with a western woman. Been there and done that, and it cost me a lot.
Mike
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[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]From my pillow talk with the hundreds (well, ok dozens)of Pinays I have banged, the common theme is that FAMILY IS EVERYTHING and your the outsider.[/QUOTE]
Exactly, her family is number one and you follow as number 2 or 3, hopefully not over 5. Hahaha.
Don't get me wrong, falling in love is a great feeling, especially with someone special. But a good word of advice,.... keep them in the country that you found them in. It just gets complicated when you take them back to the USA. I may be wrong and may get flamed, but that's a rule of thumb I, myself, sometimes find hard to do. I hear of success stories, but most of them are of guys who are native to the same country as the girl. And are not more than 2nd generation US.
Culture shock and indifferences, home sickness, and lack of communication are big barriers that most couples can not overcome, then frustration kicks in, and marriages fail.
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[QUOTE=Pinay Lover 2]
It use to be that if you got a girl from the province you were pretty safe and wouldn't run into a scammer. My wife is from Leyte. But now many of these girls (from the province) are learning from girls that come back from; AC, Manila, Makati, and even Cebu, on how to scam a guy.
Mike[/QUOTE]
Ok, I have to agree..I'm only there about a week at a time and that time is with *****s. If I had a about a year to observe the women there I would have much more of an informed decision.
I had a cab driver bring me what I thought would be a ho, and she turned out to be a province girl just two weeks in the city..very shy, no english and quite attractive. I passed cause her aunt chapperoned (sp?), and she was just too innocent. I could tell she could be molded into whomever I wanted.
[QUOTE=Pinay Lover 2]
As for your Rule #1, I would say never fall in love with a western woman. Been there and done that, and it cost me a lot.
Mike[/QUOTE]
Yep, my last divorce left me living in a garage for a year..ahhhh the sweet institution of marriage!
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[QUOTE=Pinay Lover 2]Wow, most of those items in your list sounds like you're describing an American woman.
Mike[/QUOTE]
What do you think happens when you bring them to the USA? You will be surprised how fast they become "Americanized".
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[QUOTE=Pinay Lover 2]
... I have always come before her family. As of now, she doesn't want to have anything to do with her family at all. In fact she said she really doesn't care to ever see them again....
... but also remember there are many that will make sure that their husband is first. Then if there is anything left it goes to her family.
Mike[/QUOTE]
Mike thats very unusual in my experience.
Thank your lucky stars.
Amavida
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My gf is also from Leyte. I met her in Manila.
In the begining I gave her lot of money telling her to open a bank account and save money and show me the proof.
She did exactly that. I know how cheaply these girls live.
I did not want to meet her family or go to her province. But slowly she said when we were in a hotel in Manila that she has invited one of her cousins family to meet us. They came and talked to me saying my gf family is waiting to see me. Even then I avoided two more months but curiosity got the better of me and I went to see her family. They lived in a small house. That was OK with me. I refused to stay in their house and stayed in a nearby hotel. My girl wanted me to to stay all the time at her house. I refuesed that also. So they invited me for dinner which I later found out she paid money.
I stayed only two days there although we planned stay for one week.
After this episode she started telling me here and there that her family is bothering her to send money. Immediately I cut down on the money I give her.
To cut the long story short unless you marry her and insist that money is controlled, unless you control the money the demand from family will always be there.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]unless you control the money the demand from family will always be there.[/QUOTE]
Yup, you got to keep yourself from becoming an ATM. American Teller Machine. This applies to women all over the 3rd world not just the Philippines but especially in Mexico. Got experience there.
Mugroso
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It's All About How They Were Rasied And Her Experiences
It’s all about how the girl was brought up. My lady was raised in Japan by a single mother. Yes she loves them stacks (Ebonics for money one stack equals $1000) She likes fine jewelry and cloths so do I so I can't complain there. But as for her family she disdains them.
She complains about the leech type behavior and the destruction of her mother finances for helping them out whenever they got in trouble. Case in point: One uncle illegally hooked up a power line resulting in a $5000 fine which the bread winner the mother in Japan had to pay so u see where I am going. I made it clear with her from the jump her family will not be assisted unless someone is dying. Like the sick grandmother which I have saw with my own eyes.
I only give her family money for services rendered and that’s it. Like land prospecting when I go real estate shopping or when one of her cousins drive us around because I am not to keen on driving in the Philippines. Other then that the money stays in my pocket.
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marriage!marriage!marriage!
Find me a happy married man and I'll find you a happy zoo monkey!
What i don't understand is many mongers here have been trapped once and wanting to come back again.
A woman's primary goal in this world is to trap a man so he can provide her children and finances so she can raise them
A man's primary goal is to get inside women's pants. It's not natural for men to just F one woman.
Wake up guys! There are 3 billion of them, start making your mark on the wall.
And can someone please explain the joy of being trapped?
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[QUOTE=Sammon]
To cut the long story short unless you marry her and insist that money is controlled, unless you control the money the demand from family will always be there.[/QUOTE]
If you take her to the USA. Even though you control YOUR money, she will give HER money to the family whenever possible. Leaving you to pay for all her bills and shopping sprees.
When I talk about her money, I'm talking about when she finds a job in the US. It happens alot. Her money always seem to flow to the family, while you are supporting her and yourself, and your kids , if you have any. Not all girls are like this, but the majority of them seem to be this way.
Nothings wrong or bad about loving and supporting your family, just saying this is what takes place most of the time. So when you marry and plan on supporting her, it's not just her that you are going to need to support, but her whole family also.
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[QUOTE=Columpuss]marriage!marriage!marriage!
Find me a happy married man and I'll find you a happy zoo monkey!
What i don't understand is many mongers here have been trapped once and wanting to come back again.
A woman's primary goal in this world is to trap a man so he can provide her children and finances so she can raise them
A man's primary goal is to get inside women's pants. It's not natural for men to just F one woman.
Wake up guys! There are 3 billion of them, start making your mark on the wall.
And can someone please explain the joy of being trapped?[/QUOTE]
Exactly, this is an instinctive trait of all species. It's important to the survival of the species. I'm not kidding, there is scientific proof on exactly what Columpuss said. Males suppose to pass on their genes (procreate) to as many willing females, in return the females look for a male that can provide security, food, shelter, etc... If a male can provide, the females will mate, because the traits of the father (being a good provider) will be passed down to their children. These positive traits of being able to provide is crucial for the survival of her children, girls know this, that's why they look for males that can provide.
Gotta love science. So mongering is kind of the same principle, we supply money to females, so they can provide for themselves, and we get to mate. :) So why is it illegal or looked down upon? Things that make you go hmmm.
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Try to find a book titled "the manipulated man". It's rather old so likely out of print. It's great stuff. In one section the author explains why women look down on prostitutes. The reason is that they are giving it away too cheaply / easily, making their entrapment more difficult.
Strangely enough, the book was written by a woman.
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[QUOTE=Columpuss]marriage!marriage!marriage!
Find me a happy married man and I'll find you a happy zoo monkey!
What i don't understand is many mongers here have been trapped once and wanting to come back again.
A woman's primary goal in this world is to trap a man so he can provide her children and finances so she can raise them
A man's primary goal is to get inside women's pants. It's not natural for men to just F one woman.
Wake up guys! There are 3 billion of them, start making your mark on the wall.
And can someone please explain the joy of being trapped?[/QUOTE]
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Marriage VS Whoring?
[QUOTE=Columpuss]marriage!marriage!marriage!
Find me a happy married man and I'll find you a happy zoo monkey!
What i don't understand is many mongers here have been trapped once and wanting to come back again.
A woman's primary goal in this world is to trap a man so he can provide her children and finances so she can raise them
A man's primary goal is to get inside women's pants. It's not natural for men to just F one woman.
Wake up guys! There are 3 billion of them, start making your mark on the wall.
And can someone please explain the joy of being trapped?[/QUOTE]
Bruh. There are plenty of guys who are happily married. I do not think that all women on the earth main goal is to trap a guy. There are plenty of women who don't want anything but to have a good time and move on. There is nothing that can compare to waking up in the bed with a woman who wants to be there because of you and not what you are going to pay her in the morning.
I have mongered in Uzbekistan, UAE, Japan, Afghanistan, Philippines, Thailand, and South Korea. The story is the same.Yeah there is the thrill of being with a new lady but there is the condom and the threat of catching something nasty, occupational hazard, sure you can catch something from a regular girlfriend also but if you take more time choosing your mate then you do ordering a burger at Mickey D's that would not be a issue.
A lot of women have came and went from my bed but the best girls in the sac has been with women that were my girlfriends. There is a comfort level that can't be matched with with one night stands....
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D etat
Quoting you "the best girl has been......my girl friend"
Not your wife!!! There is a universe of difference.
A girl friend is a short term trap and you still have hopes.
A wife is a malignant tumor.
Can you honestly tell me that you can F that girl when she's in her 40s, 100 kilos, with stretch marks, and kids knocking on your door while you clear the fatty slab around her ass to penetrate.
Happy married guys do not frequent this forum
You can F a girl with 2 dollars in her pocket who has great tits
You think a girl can F you with 2 dollars in your pocket even if you're John holmes?
This is not directed at you alone but those who think that the girl you meet in her 20s will stay the same 10 years down the road
I am reaching middle age and never been married and don't understand the need. To each his own, there are exceptions out there but i know you are not one of them because you are reading this buddy. Wish you the best!
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Marriage VS Whoring Part Duex
[QUOTE=Columpuss]D etat
Quoting you "the best girl has been......my girl friend"
Not your wife!!! There is a universe of difference.
A girl friend is a short term trap and you still have hopes.
A wife is a malignant tumor.
Can you honestly tell me that you can F that girl when she's in her 40s, 100 kilos, with stretch marks, and kids knocking on your door while you clear the fatty slab around her ass to penetrate.
Happy married guys do not frequent this forum
You can F a girl with 2 dollars in her pocket who has great tits
You think a girl can F you with 2 dollars in your pocket even if you're John holmes?
This is not directed at you alone but those who think that the girl you meet in her 20s will stay the same 10 years down the road
I am reaching middle age and never been married and don't understand the need. To each his own, there are exceptions out there but i know you are not one of them because you are reading this buddy. Wish you the best![/QUOTE]
Bruh I was married to an American woman for four years. It didn't work for various reasons. To say that the institution of marriage is shit is just like saying mongers are "pathetic and have to pay for it." Individuals have to find and do what’s right for them. Marriage is not bad if the two people involved are adults and both are willing pull their weight mentally, emotionally and financially.
As for $2 dollars statement. There are a lot of women who stick by broke ass men. If you frequently travel to the Philippines as I suspect you do then I know you have seen it. Hell I have many relatives back in my hometown in the USA who dont share my enthusiasm for making money and they still have women on their arms.
As for the being attracted to old age. I am in my 20s and I hope about time I reach middle age if I am with a lady whom I have dated for many years by that time I should be able to see past her outward appearance after the years invested. We all get old bruh. Some men can't see themeselves sleeping with a different lady every night. Some guys can't bring themselves to pay for sex in the business of prostituion. Some guys can't see themselves with the same women for years and years as you said to each its own.....
You take care bruh
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There are MANY more that are not!
[QUOTE=D Etat]Bruh. There are plenty of guys who are happily married. I do not think that all women on the earth main goal is to trap a guy. There are plenty of women who don't want anything but to have a good time and move on. There is nothing that can compare to waking up in the bed with a woman who wants to be there because of you and not what you are going to pay her in the morning.
I have mongered in Uzbekistan, UAE, Japan, Afghanistan, Philippines, Thailand, and South Korea. The story is the same.Yeah there is the thrill of being with a new lady but there is the condom and the threat of catching something nasty, occupational hazard, sure you can catch something from a regular girlfriend also but if you take more time choosing your mate then you do ordering a burger at Mickey D's that would not be a issue.
A lot of women have came and went from my bed but the best girls in the sac has been with women that were my girlfriends. There is a comfort level that can't be matched with with one night stands....[/QUOTE]
As they declared their love, some have been better than others.
As they declared their price, some have been better than others.
Rentals are returned easier than purchases..
Don't rule out the great GFE ho that goes above and beyond.
Finding them is easier than "the one". And I can always go back.
That's an impressive list over most Western men, but there are some here that have mongered abt 4x that many countries. That "I love you for you" feeling erodes with time like all things in life. I think you should define where these great relationships are. USA or 3rd world. We all know there is a world of diff...Peace
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Clearing The Air
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]As they declared their love, some have been better than others.
As they declared their price, some have been better than others.
Rentals are returned easier than purchases..
Don't rule out the great GFE ho that goes above and beyond.
Finding them is easier than "the one". And I can always go back.[/QUOTE]
Man look don’t get me twisted and think I am on “a get married quest.” As Columpuss so eloquently pointed out if I was I would not be on this board. All I am saying don’t shit on others decisions to get married. I defend mongers in the same way when I hear guys especially co-workers of mine saying guys who go Thailand or the Philippines are losers and they cant get a girl in their own country etc… In retrospect to go back to a good GFE. Go back to what? A lady who while you were gone how many men had their way with her?
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]That's an impressive list over most Western men, but there are some here that have mongered abt 4x that many countries. That "I love you for you" feeling erodes with time like all things in life. I think you should define where these great relationships are. USA or 3rd world. We all know there is a world of diff...Peace[/QUOTE]
Bruh thats a small list of countries I have been to I am in my late 20s but each of those countries I have visited more then 3 times and I live in Metro Manila. About feelings eroding thats up to them two people involved in that relationship. Man I know many guys who are happily married in the states as I due in the Philippines where I now call home. Where are the great relationships found you asked?
In my opinion they can be found in the 3rd world more likely then in the west but at what cost? A women who is economically dependant on you so she puts up with your bullshit?
He guys I am not arguing or debating just another point of view to all the monger out there I congratulate you. To all the married guys a thumbs up also. Live the way you see fit. Both lifestyles have advantages and disadvantages its up to you to choose which one fits you.
Take it sleazy
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women
Interesting and varied opinions being presented. D'etat, lighten up. Nothing wrong with your position, no one is attacking you. There may be an attack on the institution of marriage....who knows.
On one point, men want sex, mate and to get that we sometimes have to commit. Watch any chick flick and commitment is the end game for them. And if we want to pass on our genes, marriage (or some similar "contract") is usually necessary -- and also morally relevant. Columpuss, take note.
I once read an essay describing how college professors have very low satisfaction with their wives. This is because they have a bunch of hot young women sitting in front of them every day. Someone like Columpuss, and me, who regularly goes to PI, might say that 40ish Western (and Eastern) women are ....over the hill. But they start looking better when you have nothing else to chase....
It's all relative.
x
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Bruh. There are plenty of guys who are happily married. I do not think that all women on the earth main goal is to trap a guy. There are plenty of women who don't want anything but to have a good time and move on. There is nothing that can compare to waking up in the bed with a woman who wants to be there because of you and not what you are going to pay her in the morning.
I have mongered in Uzbekistan, UAE, Japan, Afghanistan, Philippines, Thailand, and South Korea. The story is the same.Yeah there is the thrill of being with a new lady but there is the condom and the threat of catching something nasty, occupational hazard, sure you can catch something from a regular girlfriend also but if you take more time choosing your mate then you do ordering a burger at Mickey D's that would not be a issue.
A lot of women have came and went from my bed but the best girls in the sac has been with women that were my girlfriends. There is a comfort level that can't be matched with with one night stands....[/QUOTE]
I can find a hot wg and do her all night and all day. She can be the most finest girl you ever saw. However, by the 5 th day, it's kind of gets boring.
Analogy, you can eat your favorite food and say, dam, this is delicious, I can eat this everyday. But as the 5 th day comes around, you feel sick and don't want to eat this, once delicious food, you want variety. Same here for me with girls. No matter how hot or beautiful they are, I always want new flavor.
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[QUOTE=D Etat] We all get old bruh. [/QUOTE]That's what we are paying for, their youth.
[QUOTE=D Etat]
Some men can't see themeselves sleeping with a different lady every night. [/QUOTE]That's what I want every night, a different flavor. [QUOTE=D Etat]Some guys can't bring themselves to pay for sex in the business of prostituion.
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I pay them to leave:)
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[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]As they declared their love, some have been better than others.
As they declared their price, some have been better than others.
Rentals are returned easier than purchases..
Don't rule out the great GFE ho that goes above and beyond.
Finding them is easier than "the one". And I can always go back.
That's an impressive list over most Western men, but there are some here that have mongered abt 4x that many countries. That "I love you for you" feeling erodes with time like all things in life. I think you should define where these great relationships are. USA or 3rd world. We all know there is a world of diff...Peace[/QUOTE]
"Only poor people have true love, because they are so poor... that's the only thing they can give and expect from each other. "
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Getting Involved with Married Filipina
news item from london daily mail today. best make very sure your filipina is not already married! most of them are, but will not tell you!
british man facing jail over his 'adultery' with a filipino woman asks: 'why won't the foreign office help us?'
by andrew drummond
last updated at 00:23am on 24th february 2008
when david scott fell in love with a beautiful filipino woman, he embraced the opportunity to escape his humdrum existence as a machine operator in swindon and begin a new life in an exotic land.
but within weeks of leaving his friends and family to join his girlfriend in her native country, his dream of happiness has vanished - to be replaced by a nightmare he could never have anticipated.
after fathering a child with cynthia delfino, whose separation from her estranged husband was not complete, the 35-year-old became an unwitting victim of the philippines' harsh legal system.
he and 29-year-old cynthia were charged with adultery and thrown into a rat-infested prison for four days.
terrified: david and cynthia must pay her estranged husband £7,000 but have no money
and despite david having spent his life-savings trying to ensure freedom for the couple and their newborn baby, they have now had to go into hiding as the country's police search for them.
if they are caught, david faces seven years in jail and having his daughter taken away from him permanently.
"i can't believe this has happened to me," he said at his hideaway in a squalid suburb of the philippines capital manila, after almost two months on the run.
"i have done nothing wrong and yet i have found myself in this horrendous situation. i am begging the british government to help."
david's ordeal began when cynthia became pregnant with his child before she had officially separated. adultery is illegal in the philippines, where it can incur a seven-year jail sentence.
now, just weeks after the birth of baby janina, cynthia's estranged husband - who is considered the child's legal father in the philippines - is determined to see the pair imprisoned if they do not pay him £7,000 compensation.
if they are jailed, he will be the one bringing up their baby daughter, a prospect david says breaks his heart. now only cash, which david and cynthia do not have, or diplomatic pressure, can save them from jail. however, the foreign and commonwealth office say they cannot interfere with philippine law.
david said: "nobody is going to take my daughter away from me. it will be over my dead body. under british law my daughter is mine. why can't the foreign office help?"
cynthia, a psychology graduate from manila's colegio de san juan de letran, met david over the internet in november 2006.
at the time, she had been separated from her husband, noriel delfino, for a year and was working as a supervisor at the emirates palace hotel in abu dhabi.
david, then living in swindon, was working on a contract for the ministry of defence, cutting armour for use on military vehicles in iraq.
they began talking on the website camfrog.com and soon realised their attraction for one another.
"we used a webcam, so i knew how beautiful she was, and from the start we were direct and honest with each other," said david.
"we would spend hours talking about every subject under the sun - we just clicked." cynthia said: "i was honest with david. i said i was married and had two children, a boy and a girl, but was separated from my husband and we were going through a marriage annulment. divorce is illegal in the philippines.
"my husband had ordered me to go to work in the middle east and every month i sent back just about all my salary, 20,000 pesos (£300), to pay for him and the children.
"but he never told me what he did with the money and it was clear our marriage was not going to work.
"we talked about annulling our marriage and he even sent me an email saying he wanted the annulment to get done as soon as possible."
the couple's first face-to-face meeting took place last february at manila's ninoy aquino international airport, as she flew in from the middle east and david flew in from london. "shortly after i met cynthia, i knew our relationship was going to work," said david.
hiding: david, cynthia and newborn janina outside manila
"we had a wonderful time in the mountains of luzon near an extinct volcano at a place called laguna, but after six weeks i had to rush home when i heard my father was dying.
"but we had already agreed we would both save our money to pay for the annulment and plan our own marriage. then, out of the blue, cynthia rang crying to say she was pregnant. i said: 'why are you crying? that is great news.'
"i was as happy as the happiest expectant dad. i told her to get on with the annulment."
cynthia said: "my husband agreed on the grounds of 'psychological incapacity', the only grounds for annulment in the philippines. he even said he wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible."
but then in september at a matrimonial court in manila, where cynthia was due to give evidence, lawyers from her husband suddenly withdrew from the case.
"they were preparing charges against me," said cynthia.
unknown to the couple, noriel had discovered a photograph of cynthia and david they had posted on a website similar to facebook.
enraged, he then began proceedings to have them arrested for adultery.
david said: "i rushed out in november with all my savings to be with cynthia for the last part of her pregnancy.
"everything seemed to be going wrong but i wanted to be there with my wife when my baby was born.
"our real nightmare began on december 30 when police and immigration officials raided the house i had rented in the suburb of caloocan. it was about 10pm and there were all these people outside shouting.
"there were local police, immigration officials and officers of the national bureau of investigation, their version of the fbi. we were taken along to the local police station and thrown into a cell. they said they were charging us with adultery and cynthia's husband was demanding £7,000 in compensation.
"the cell was not big enough to lie down in, so we sat there hunched for three nights and four days.
"it was crawling with cockroaches and other insects, stank of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] and there was my girlfriend eight months pregnant and in great discomfort.
"they wanted to separate us, so we had to pay 500 pesos, about £8, each night to different officers to allow us to be together.
"every night, though, a different policeman would take it in turns outside our cell flicking the light on and off. we pretended to be asleep.
"they took us out during the day to question cynthia and get my details and fingerprints. they let us wash from a bucket; cynthia's relatives brought us soap and toothpaste.
"eventually, on the fourth day, a lawyer came on the recommendation of the british embassy, who got us bail.
"the bail was about 12,000 pesos each - £150. but we had to pay 100,000 pesos, £1,250, to somebody under the table to actually get the bail."
the couple were ordered to appear in court on april 12 to hear their fate.
since then, they have been on the run, fearing that cynthia's husband was trying to get their bail revoked.
they have moved from shack to rented room in the squalor of suburban manila as they desperately try to find a solution to their problems.
david's savings have long since run out and the couple are now surviving on charity from friends and family.
yesterday, david's distraught mother sent her son £100, without which he says they would not be able to afford food.
he said: "we have changed our address twice. i rarely go out. i am the only european here, so if i go out, i stand out like a sore thumb.
"i sit and watch from the window. we have received messages that the police are looking for us, so i am always looking out of the window."
when their daughter was born, the couple's difficult circumstances clouded what was supposed to be a joyful occasion.
"we could not go to one of the big hospitals as they pass on their records quickly to the authorities. instead, we had to go to a small clinic where cynthia was the only in-patient.
"it was a harrowing time. janina was born two weeks early by caesarean section on january 17 and weighed just over 6lb.
"she had an irregular heartbeat which caused us days of worrying. in addition, cynthia lost so much blood after the operation that she had to have a transfusion. thankfully, due to the generosity and kindness of some very good-hearted filipino people, we have been looked after very well since janina's birth and she is now doing just fine.
"but all our money has gone, to lawyers, to police, to hospital bills and on living expenses. my mum rang me today to say she has just sent me £100.
"that's so unfair. it's me who should be looking after my mum. she is 62 and disabled and gets very little in the way of pension. she has been scraping round friends and relatives.
"i hope one day i can tell my daughter janina of this nightmare, of what her mum and i went through. but if the full course of philippines law is followed, cynthia and i will be in jail and delfino will have my daughter.
"we have begged the embassy for help. i thought the child of a british father had the right to british citizenship. but the embassy official allocated to my case is filipino and just quotes filipino law at me, saying it's not my child."
at this point cynthia began to cry, saying: "sometimes i just want to give up fighting.
"i feel so depressed. let them take me to jail. i have done nothing to be ashamed of. i love david and our daughter."
david's mother ann has received a letter from anne snelgrove, labour mpfor south swindon who has promised her 'full support'.
the mp said: "the nationality directorate says that the child will automatically have british nationality if david is named on the birth certificate as the child's father."
but she added: "until this case is settled in the philippines under their law, there is little we can do to progress the matter."
by that time david and cynthia expect to be in jail.
philippines lawyer and women's and children's rights activist katrina legarda warned: "i have to tell you the worst first. david scott is in great danger if he stays here. the fact that he has a baby proves the adultery.
"the baby is not legally his. a child born in a marriage is considered legitimate to the marriage only.
"legally the baby belongs to her filipino husband. frankly put, he does not have a child. he should go home."
ms legarda continued: "as it stands, it seems the only way out is for david to pay the husband. no matter how bad the husband might be, even if the couple are separated, the law still applies.
"i know this sounds unfair but this is the law and whenever we try to change it there is an outcry from the religious groups.
"this should not really be happening. we tried over 20 years ago to introduce a divorce law, but those who supported it were condemned in the pulpits of catholic churches all over the country as people who would go to hell.
"for david and cynthia, and others like them, it is a very sad situation."
a foreign office spokesman said: "we are aware of the case and are providing consular assistance to mr scott and his family, but cannot comment further due to data protection."
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Why I love Filipinas the best, as lovers, playmates and best friends
In my opinion, Filipinas make the best girlfriends, lovers, and friends.compared to females in the other Asian countries, they aren't as strict, serious, prudish or hung up. Instead, they are more relaxed, carefree, happy-go-lucky, easygoing, playful, passionate and sensual. They are also very nonjudgmental and nonracist. And they have a great sense of humor, enjoying the silliest things which easily amuse them. Thus, you can always have fun and joke around or play with them, even if you have nothing else to talk about. That's so nice and refreshing, especially when you are so accustomed to ant****iality and hostility from women in the US.
Best of all, they LOVE to flirt. When I flirt with girls in the Philippines, they not only enjoy it, but it actually ADDS FUEL to our chemistry (whereas in the US, flirting with girls "creeped" them out and emanated a vibe of hostility from them). And that's a big thing to me, because I am a big-time flirt!
Filipinas are also a great blend of outer and inner traits. Ethnically, they are Asian, Malay and Spanish, resulting in a very exotic and beautiful mix that is very pleasing and sensual to the eyes. Their exotic sexy sensual olive complexion ranges from light to dark shades, all of which are sexy to me and many other foreigners here. And their attractive highly feminine appearance is combined with a tender romantic loving/caring inner side to them – a fantastic blend to say the least.
The way they treat you and touch you is just so sensual and fulfilling. They have this warm tender touch that white women definitely don’t have (not to sound racist). I’ve experienced it and can understand now why so many foreign men are addicted to the Philippines and to Filipinas. I think it’s a genetic thing, not just a cultural thing, as you can feel it to the bone (and soul). Not to sound racist, but just as brown sugar is healthier than white sugar, and brown rice is healthier than white rice, (as any nutritionist will tell you) perhaps brown skinned women are healthier for your mind, body, and sanity as well. They seem to bring this natural balance to your life and soul.
Thus, I’d say that even if you didn’t have a taste for Filipinas or Asian women before, if you come to the Philippines, you soon will. Once you’re here and experience females of this caliber, any preferences you had will simply go "out the window. "
Not only are most Filipinas either hot or cute, and passionate and tender in bed, but their personality is so soothing, gentle, easy-going and accommodating that they are like my best friends too. They are just so comfortable to be around, in a way that you could never imagine possible in the West.
They are also a great blend of White and Asian traits. Their Spanish blood makes them much more wild, relaxed, passionate and expressive than Orientals such as the Chinese, Japanese, or Koreans, who are non-expressive, robotic and overly serious and strict in comparison. And they have big round eyes that are considered attractive in Western Culture (although to my surprise, my slanted Asian eyes are considered more attractive in Filipino culture than their big round eyes are). They have all the physical beauty of thin feminine Asian women in light and dark colors ("vanilla and chocolate" so to speak), as well as their humble, modest, sweet, pleasing, soothing romantic nature. The only drawbacks to them are that they don’t like to think much, don’t like to answer questions or provide explanations when asked to do so, and are sometimes moody and quiet for unexplainable reasons that they refuse to discuss. It seems in their nature to be that way. Thus you don’t get much intellectual stimulation with them. But the good news is that it’s much easier to train and educate them than it is to teach a Westernized woman to be sweeter and more loving.
Although Filipinas aren't as intellectual, educated, or deep-thinking as the European women are, they make up for it in their other qualities. They have this essence about them, warm sensual tenderness and a way of treating you that makes you feel needed and loved, like a real man, in a way that you had always wished and dreamed deep down but never dared hoped for. It's beyond words. Something you have to feel and experience as a man to understand. And when you do, you realize it's what you had always wanted. And even friends. They are tender, sweet, passionate and fun.
In a way, it's like they give new birth to your heart, for if your heart had lost faith in love, they awaken it and renew it with their child-like hope and belief in love, making it a reality for you, and making you a believer again as well.
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[QUOTE=Fastpiston]News item from London Daily Mail today. Best make very sure your Filipina is not already married! Most of them are, but will not tell you!
British man facing jail over his 'adultery' with a Filipino woman asks: 'Why won't the Foreign Office help us?'
By ANDREW DRUMMOND
Last updated at 00:23am on 24th February 2008
When David Scott fell in love with a beautiful Filipino woman, he embraced the opportunity to escape his humdrum existence as a machine operator in Swindon and begin a new life in an exotic land.
But within weeks of leaving his friends and family to join his girlfriend in her native country, his dream of happiness has vanished - to be replaced by a nightmare he could never have anticipated.
After fathering a child with Cynthia Delfino, whose separation from her estranged husband was not complete, the 35-year-old became an unwitting victim of the Philippines' harsh legal system.
He and 29-year-old Cynthia were charged with adultery and thrown into a rat-infested prison for four days.
Terrified: David and Cynthia must pay her estranged husband £7,000 but have no money
...[/QUOTE]
Divorce is a long expensive process that only wealthy Philipinas can afford so many dont even bothering getting the correct legal marriage certificate in the first place & if they did they are unlikely to ever get a legal divorce.
So there are many pinays in the situation of in the twightlight zone of marriage/divorce.
If true, this guy either pissed someone off or he was a vicitm of a one in a million scam.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
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Why I love Filipinas
Wow, Wu Master, you echo my sentiments exactly. I could not have said it better myself!
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How I found my Filipina Wife
I was stationed on Okinawa in the US military in 1985-86. I made about 8 trips to the PI in 18 months. I was single and E5 rank with money to burn. It only cost U$10 to fly each way and 30 days leave a year gave me plenty of time to monger. I really fell in love with the Filipino people. Most of the women I had sex with were bargirls and I tried to treat them well, more like a girlfriend and less like a bargirl. It seemed to be appreciated later in the night. I let the women help make decisions, like where to eat and where to party. I took one girl to a Filipino movie. Did not understand what was going on but the lady translated the important parts for me. I had so much fun with the ladies I thought I might want to marry a Filipina and settle down. I was watching a TV program on AFRTS about a Filipina wife and American husband who ran an introduction service so wrote the TV station and got the address.
When I returned to the states in 1986, I wrote the introduction service. They were having a special so I ordered a listing. I spent hours reading the bios and studying the pictures. I initially wrote to about 25 women with 15 replying. I developed a questionnaire to get pertinent info on each lady and allow me to compare apples to apples. I sent many letters and some money for stamps and small Christmas presents. Most interesting was a sixteen year old school girl I wrote on a lark. I told her nothing would come of it but was interested in a pin pal. She seemed sad when I told her I had narrowed my choices and would not be writing again. Over the course of the next year, I slowly reduced my interests to five ladies. I was getting serious and contacted the Immigration Service and got the paperwork for a fiancée visa. This would allow me 90 days after my mate entered the US before I had to get married or send her home.
I decided another trip to the Philippines was necessary to meet my five prospective mates in person. I went back to PI in February 1987 for 30 days military leave. Three ladies agreed to meet me. Since I was more familiar with Angeles City, I made plans to meet them there spaced out over three weekends and leaving a week to spend with the lady of my choice in Manila to meet her family and friends before returning to the states. I made it clear there would be no hank-panky and each lady was free to bring a friend or relative. I reserved a separate room for the ladies in the main hotel while I stayed in the quieter and more private annex.
I flew into Manila and unexpectedly one of the ladies and her brother met me at the airport and helped me get to my hotel (satellite of the one I was using in AC). We had lunch and talked for a while. The brother took an interested and asked some probing questions about me, my family, and job. I took the hotel bus to AC and settled into the hotel. The reason I planned to meet the ladies over the weekend was to fit their work schedules and my mongering. Figuring I had Monday to Thursday to chase girls and a nice leisurely weekend spending time with my love interests and catching up on rest.
The first prospect to visit was the lady who met me in Manila and her brother. She was dark-skinned, tall and slim, 25 years old, and a school teacher. A very nice looking and self assured lady. We had some nice time together, meals, sight seeing, etc. After many long conversations, it was decided she would be happier staying in the PI and teaching school.
The second lady was a total waste of time but her sister was quite cute and outgoing.
The third lady was my favorite and my best hope for a mate. That is why she was the last to visit. She was 24, a trained engineer, 5'4, 105 lbs and really really cute. I was so sure about her I told my family about her and my hopes of marriage. Her best friend had sent her picture and bio to the agency and #3 confused when a bunch of unknown men started writing her. Her friend finally confessed. I was one of about three men she had corresponded with. Three days before her arrival, I received a phone call from her saying she would not be coming since her friend, who was to accompany her had backed out. I protested hoping she would still come. She said her sister, who she was living with, would not let her come alone. Crap!!
On the Friday lady #3 was to arrive, I had finally snagged a cute young bargirl I had been chasing for weeks and arranged to pick her up later for dinner, disco and a night together. When I returned to the hotel, BANG!!! There was lady #3 sitting demurely on a bench waiting for me. When it rains... She had defied her sister and come alone. I was impressed and more sure she was the one. I booked her a room and carried her bag for her. While she was freshening up, I scurried back to the bar and arranged a rain-check for the little honey I had been chasing. (It was anti-climatic since she was a terrible lay and I sent her home after a quickie.) Lady #3 and I spent some quality time together and decided to give marriage a chance.
Plans were made to meet in Manila and finalize the fiancée visa. I met her sister and brother-in-law and assured them I had the best of intentions. We took the paperwork to the US Embassy and had them check it. I had to wait until I got home to file the visa request which I did.
Made travel plans for her trip to the US. Marriage in the PI was out of the question due to paperwork and time restraints. The military required extensive marriage counseling and a 30-day waiting period. Immigration took about three months to process and approve the visa. My travel agent set up an open ticket with Philippine Airlines for my fiancée. I made wedding plans as we had decide not to drag out the engagement. Every thing looking rosy, right? WRONG. A week before fiancée was to leave the PI she called with bad news. When she went Philippine Airlines to book her flight, PAL said they had a three month backlog of people waiting for flights to the US. She was upset and I was less than happy. Called my travel agent at home and explained the situation. I authorized any new credit card charges and turned her loose on PAL. One last business class seat was snared and the trip was on. Looking rosy again, right? WRONG, again. On the appointed day, I flew to Los Angeles to meet my fiancée and found out her airplane was grounded in Manila for a one-time inspection and had not even taken off yet. Crap!! Was assured by PAL, airplane would arrive next day. Finally, she arrived and we returned home to start our new lives together.
There were some rough times but more good times. We celebrated our 20th wedding anniversary this past summer. My decision to marry lady #3 was the smartest thing I have ever done. She is still cute, young looking, and very passionate in bed. She keeps herself slim and fit, only gained 5 pounds in 20 years. I love her more today than ever.
There are some real jewels out there if you take the time to find them.
Slim
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]I was stationed on Okinawa in the US military in 1985-86. I made about 8 trips to the PI in 18 months. I was single and E5 rank with money to burn. It only cost U$10 to fly each way and 30 days leave a year gave me plenty of time to monger. I really fell in love with the Filipino people. Most of the women I had sex with were bargirls and I tried to treat them well, more like a girlfriend and less like a bargirl. It seemed to be appreciated later in the night. I let the women help make decisions, like where to eat and where to party. I took one girl to a Filipino movie. Did not understand what was going on but the lady translated the important parts for me. I had so much fun with the ladies I thought I might want to marry a Filipina and settle down. I was watching a TV program on AFRTS about a Filipina wife and American husband who ran an introduction service so wrote the TV station and got the address.
When I returned to the states in 1986, I wrote the introduction service. They were having a special so I ordered a listing. I spent hours reading the bios and studying the pictures. I initially wrote to about 25 women with 15 replying. I developed a questionnaire to get pertinent info on each lady and allow me to compare apples to apples. I sent many letters and some money for stamps and small Christmas presents. Most interesting was a sixteen year old school girl I wrote on a lark. I told her nothing would come of it but was interested in a pin pal. She seemed sad when I told her I had narrowed my choices and would not be writing again. Over the course of the next year, I slowly reduced my interests to five ladies. I was getting serious and contacted the Immigration Service and got the paperwork for a fiancée visa. This would allow me 90 days after my mate entered the US before I had to get married or send her home.
I decided another trip to the Philippines was necessary to meet my five prospective mates in person. I went back to PI in February 1987 for 30 days military leave. Three ladies agreed to meet me. Since I was more familiar with Angeles City, I made plans to meet them there spaced out over three weekends and leaving a week to spend with the lady of my choice in Manila to meet her family and friends before returning to the states. I made it clear there would be no hank-panky and each lady was free to bring a friend or relative. I reserved a separate room for the ladies in the main hotel while I stayed in the quieter and more private annex.
I flew into Manila and unexpectedly one of the ladies and her brother met me at the airport and helped me get to my hotel (satellite of the one I was using in AC). We had lunch and talked for a while. The brother took an interested and asked some probing questions about me, my family, and job. I took the hotel bus to AC and settled into the hotel. The reason I planned to meet the ladies over the weekend was to fit their work schedules and my mongering. Figuring I had Monday to Thursday to chase girls and a nice leisurely weekend spending time with my love interests and catching up on rest.
The first prospect to visit was the lady who met me in Manila and her brother. She was dark-skinned, tall and slim, 25 years old, and a school teacher. A very nice looking and self assured lady. We had some nice time together, meals, sight seeing, etc. After many long conversations, it was decided she would be happier staying in the PI and teaching school.
The second lady was a total waste of time but her sister was quite cute and outgoing.
The third lady was my favorite and my best hope for a mate. That is why she was the last to visit. She was 24, a trained engineer, 5'4, 105 lbs and really really cute. I was so sure about her I told my family about her and my hopes of marriage. Her best friend had sent her picture and bio to the agency and #3 confused when a bunch of unknown men started writing her. Her friend finally confessed. I was one of about three men she had corresponded with. Three days before her arrival, I received a phone call from her saying she would not be coming since her friend, who was to accompany her had backed out. I protested hoping she would still come. She said her sister, who she was living with, would not let her come alone. Crap!!
On the Friday lady #3 was to arrive, I had finally snagged a cute young bargirl I had been chasing for weeks and arranged to pick her up later for dinner, disco and a night together. When I returned to the hotel, BANG!!! There was lady #3 sitting demurely on a bench waiting for me. When it rains... She had defied her sister and come alone. I was impressed and more sure she was the one. I booked her a room and carried her bag for her. While she was freshening up, I scurried back to the bar and arranged a rain-check for the little honey I had been chasing. (It was anti-climatic since she was a terrible lay and I sent her home after a quickie.) Lady #3 and I spent some quality time together and decided to give marriage a chance.
Plans were made to meet in Manila and finalize the fiancée visa. I met her sister and brother-in-law and assured them I had the best of intentions. We took the paperwork to the US Embassy and had them check it. I had to wait until I got home to file the visa request which I did.
Made travel plans for her trip to the US. Marriage in the PI was out of the question due to paperwork and time restraints. The military required extensive marriage counseling and a 30-day waiting period. Immigration took about three months to process and approve the visa. My travel agent set up an open ticket with Philippine Airlines for my fiancée. I made wedding plans as we had decide not to drag out the engagement. Every thing looking rosy, right? WRONG. A week before fiancée was to leave the PI she called with bad news. When she went Philippine Airlines to book her flight, PAL said they had a three month backlog of people waiting for flights to the US. She was upset and I was less than happy. Called my travel agent at home and explained the situation. I authorized any new credit card charges and turned her loose on PAL. One last business class seat was snared and the trip was on. Looking rosy again, right? WRONG, again. On the appointed day, I flew to Los Angeles to meet my fiancée and found out her airplane was grounded in Manila for a one-time inspection and had not even taken off yet. Crap!! Was assured by PAL, airplane would arrive next day. Finally, she arrived and we returned home to start our new lives together.
There were some rough times but more good times. We celebrated our 20th wedding anniversary this past summer. My decision to marry lady #3 was the smartest thing I have ever done. She is still cute, young looking, and very passionate in bed. She keeps herself slim and fit, only gained 5 pounds in 20 years. I love her more today than ever.
There are some real jewels out there if you take the time to find them.
Slim[/QUOTE]
Wow , great story with a story book ending. I wish I had that kind of luck. My modo, now, is to just move to PI and live with the girls, and never take them back to the USA. Trying to set this up so it can happen, you know, financially. I hope I can retire in PI someday.
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[QUOTE=Wu Master]In my opinion, Filipinas make the best girlfriends, lovers, and friends.compared to females in the other Asian countries, they aren't as strict, serious, prudish or hung up. Instead, they are more relaxed, carefree, happy-go-lucky, easygoing, playful, passionate and sensual. They are also very nonjudgmental and nonracist. And they have a great sense of humor, enjoying the silliest things which easily amuse them. Thus, you can always have fun and joke around or play with them, even if you have nothing else to talk about. That's so nice and refreshing, especially when you are so accustomed to ant****iality and hostility from women in the US.
Best of all, they LOVE to flirt. When I flirt with girls in the Philippines, they not only enjoy it, but it actually ADDS FUEL to our chemistry (whereas in the US, flirting with girls "creeped" them out and emanated a vibe of hostility from them). And that's a big thing to me, because I am a big-time flirt!
Filipinas are also a great blend of outer and inner traits. Ethnically, they are Asian, Malay and Spanish, resulting in a very exotic and beautiful mix that is very pleasing and sensual to the eyes. Their exotic sexy sensual olive complexion ranges from light to dark shades, all of which are sexy to me and many other foreigners here. And their attractive highly feminine appearance is combined with a tender romantic loving/caring inner side to them – a fantastic blend to say the least.
The way they treat you and touch you is just so sensual and fulfilling. They have this warm tender touch that white women definitely don’t have (not to sound racist). I’ve experienced it and can understand now why so many foreign men are addicted to the Philippines and to Filipinas. I think it’s a genetic thing, not just a cultural thing, as you can feel it to the bone (and soul). Not to sound racist, but just as brown sugar is healthier than white sugar, and brown rice is healthier than white rice, (as any nutritionist will tell you) perhaps brown skinned women are healthier for your mind, body, and sanity as well. They seem to bring this natural balance to your life and soul.
Thus, I’d say that even if you didn’t have a taste for Filipinas or Asian women before, if you come to the Philippines, you soon will. Once you’re here and experience females of this caliber, any preferences you had will simply go "out the window. "
Not only are most Filipinas either hot or cute, and passionate and tender in bed, but their personality is so soothing, gentle, easy-going and accommodating that they are like my best friends too. They are just so comfortable to be around, in a way that you could never imagine possible in the West.
They are also a great blend of White and Asian traits. Their Spanish blood makes them much more wild, relaxed, passionate and expressive than Orientals such as the Chinese, Japanese, or Koreans, who are non-expressive, robotic and overly serious and strict in comparison. And they have big round eyes that are considered attractive in Western Culture (although to my surprise, my slanted Asian eyes are considered more attractive in Filipino culture than their big round eyes are). They have all the physical beauty of thin feminine Asian women in light and dark colors ("vanilla and chocolate" so to speak), as well as their humble, modest, sweet, pleasing, soothing romantic nature. The only drawbacks to them are that they don’t like to think much, don’t like to answer questions or provide explanations when asked to do so, and are sometimes moody and quiet for unexplainable reasons that they refuse to discuss. It seems in their nature to be that way. Thus you don’t get much intellectual stimulation with them. But the good news is that it’s much easier to train and educate them than it is to teach a Westernized woman to be sweeter and more loving.
Although Filipinas aren't as intellectual, educated, or deep-thinking as the European women are, they make up for it in their other qualities. They have this essence about them, warm sensual tenderness and a way of treating you that makes you feel needed and loved, like a real man, in a way that you had always wished and dreamed deep down but never dared hoped for. It's beyond words. Something you have to feel and experience as a man to understand. And when you do, you realize it's what you had always wanted. And even friends. They are tender, sweet, passionate and fun.
In a way, it's like they give new birth to your heart, for if your heart had lost faith in love, they awaken it and renew it with their child-like hope and belief in love, making it a reality for you, and making you a believer again as well.[/QUOTE]Nice to see some good words about the real ways of the girls here.The gals here are hands down better than any others I have ever found.
B.B.
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Agree with most of what you say
[QUOTE=Wu Master]In my opinion, Filipinas make the best girlfriends, lovers, and friends.compared to females in the other Asian countries, they aren't as strict, serious, prudish or hung up. Instead, they are more relaxed, carefree, happy-go-lucky, easygoing, playful, passionate and sensual. They are also very nonjudgmental and nonracist. And they have a great sense of humor, enjoying the silliest things which easily amuse them. Thus, you can always have fun and joke around or play with them, even if you have nothing else to talk about. That's so nice and refreshing, especially when you are so accustomed to ant****iality and hostility from women in the US.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]I have found that not all Filipinas live up to this standard, but the ones who do make the hunt worthwhile. When they are playful and teasing and smiling as Wu describes they just light up the room, as well as my heart and groin. And yes, the brown rice metaphor works for me. Mas masarap!
Skip
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[QUOTE=Wu Master]In my opinion, Filipinas make the best girlfriends, lovers, and friends.compared to females in the other Asian countries, they aren't as strict, serious, prudish or hung up. Instead, they are more relaxed, carefree, happy-go-lucky, easygoing, playful, passionate and sensual. They are also very nonjudgmental and nonracist. And they have a great sense of humor, enjoying the silliest things which easily amuse them. Thus, you can always have fun and joke around or play with them, even if you have nothing else to talk about. That's so nice and refreshing, especially when you are so accustomed to ant****iality and hostility from women in the US.
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I agree, What you wrote could be summed up in one word ..Angel :)
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Not Racist?
Anywhere in Asia is racist vs. whites. I encounter it every time I am there from the families of the women I date down to the restaruants and bars that I go to with or without an Asian girl. But, I'm not in ACwhere it seems the white guy is king. Get outside of AC in the Phils and you are pretty well in need of local talent. Then, the "white" thing starts again.
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Racism?
Funny, but I've lived here almost five years now, traveled fairly extensively around the country, and I've never run into any of the anti-white attitude that you describe. Either I've been extremely lucky or you have been very unlucky. Contrary to your experiences I've found that often there's too much deference paid to whites.
GE
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Not my experience either
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Anywhere in Asia is racist vs. whites. I encounter it every time I am there from the families of the women I date down to the restaruants and bars that I go to with or without an Asian girl. But, I'm not in ACwhere it seems the white guy is king. Get outside of AC in the Phils and you are pretty well in need of local talent. Then, the "white" thing starts again.[/QUOTE]I found that Filipinos sometimes stared at me, especially little children, but I presumed it was simply because I looked different. My daughter, who's in her late 20s, visited me for several weeks and we did some touristy things together. Filipino men were always staring but never inappropriate. In fact, White people are the images of beauty that get flashed at them in our movies, so that, unfortunately, they feel sort of an inferiority complex by comparison to White people as though we're an Aryan super race. Do they like our money? Of course, but, believe it or not, some young Pinays even think of us old farts as attractive. Sure, it's sometimes a put on, but not always. I've also talked to a number of attractive young Western women who rode the tightly packed LR trains around Manila and never once got pinched. They wouldn't dare try that in Mexico or Italy.
Filipino's treatment toward me in restaurants and stores was often much more cordial and attentive than toward other Filipinos. I'm not talking about Ermita, or P. Burgos, or near the EDSA complex, which they think of as red light districts, but in the other Metro Manila areas like Quezon City, San Juan, Pasig, or Makati. Is this treatment due to expectations for American-sized tips or an assumption that I was more likely to make nice purchases? Maybe, but even when I didn't buy, I invariably got courteous goodbye greetings. At every establishment where I showed up more than once, by the second or third visit they invariably began to greet me cordially as though I was an old friend. Maybe it was just that I treated them courteously, and this contradicted their stereotypes about wealthy, bossy, inconsiderate Americans. So when I turned out to be a regular guy, it was like I became a "special" regular guy.
It is true that Filipino culture has some distinctive class divisions, and the well-to-dos and Filipinos with higher professional standing (doctors, lawyers, professors, executives) may not always treat the average working stiff Filipino all that respectfully. But I got to mix with both the average stiffs and the well-to-dos and made a point to treat them all as I wanted to be treated. The average stiffs went out of their way to reach out to me and make me feel welcome. I've traveled through much of Europe, and through some of Asia and Central America, and I find Filipinos to be about the most hospitable people I've encountered.
Are there different prices sometimes for Westerners? Yes. Will taxi drivers take advantage of you because they think they can get away with it? Yes. Are there con artists looking to separate you from your money? Yes. But for every one of these there are hotel staff, waiters, and store clerks who are just as likely to give you better service. By the way, any of the yanks on the board visited Paris lately? Sorry, but the anti-white racism has not been my experience in the Philippines.
Skip
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[QUOTE=Skip Kost]....I find Filipinos to be about the most hospitable people I've encountered.[/QUOTE]
Great post Skip and I agree with you 100%. Many filipinas are very curious about whites and want to become your friends. In some of the provinces I hang, where I was probably the only white guy for miles, I was treated very well in all situations. Treat them with respect, be humble and good things will happen!
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Remark on: Why I love Filipinas the best, as lovers, playmates and best friends
A lot of items what is mentioned in the report "Why I love Filipinas the best, as lovers, playmates and best friends" is a result of two things.
1) The girls you met are poor poor girls and want to do everything to escape from this missery (the best they like is to go out of that country), Foreigners make them a millionair (for as long as you are with them or whem you are so nice to send them money which they will give directly to their family).
2) The local men are bad (drink, don't work, beat the wives) so every foreighner is nicer then they have now.
I met a lot of girls and most are not so nice. If you think on the price level of the PI then most girls "like" a lot of money. Second they will take possesion of you if you see them a few times (they will never let you be alone because they now that other pinay girls are all the same. Out for you (re money)). If you like to know the real pinay then speak to the rich girls in the PI or go once to Dubai. If they have money they don't need you and don't smile to you.
They are verry hard (they should be. They work hard for the money just to give to the no good bothers and single mother because father died of all the Red Horse beer or walked away to a younger Pinay). Insiders say they have a dual (two) heart. They just show the nice heart if they need you.
Last note on Pinay (oy). They live by day (there is no tomorow).
What that means you can imagine. But if you take them home and they have money you surely will divorse the most of them.
I like to fool arround with the girls. But it is so dissapointing that they don't care about the area they are living (all the dirt and polution of cars). In my view Cambodian (Khmer) girls are looking better then Pinay and Cambodian girls are even less demanding. While Thai are more demanding and more Ugly. But the Thai became so because to many foreighners throw arround with to many money. The same counts already in Manila (and Vietnam and Phnom Penh). Remember the average wage in the PI is ca 2$ after 12 hrs working. So it is in oure hands wether we can still have humble lovely Pinay in the future or that we spoil everything after a 2 week holiday.
Andre Cuipers, Netherlands
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We will have to disagree without being disagreeable.
[QUOTE=Andre Cuipers]A lot of items what is mentioned in the report "Why I love Filipinas the best, as lovers, playmates and best friends" is a result of two things.
1) The girls you met are poor poor girls and want to do everything to escape from this missery (the best they like is to go out of that country), Foreigners make them a millionair (for as long as you are with them or whem you are so nice to send them money which they will give directly to their family).
2) The local men are bad (drink, don't work, beat the wives) so every foreighner is nicer then they have now.
I met a lot of girls and most are not so nice. If you think on the price level of the PI then most girls "like" a lot of money. Second they will take possesion of you if you see them a few times (they will never let you be alone because they now that other pinay girls are all the same. Out for you (re money)). If you like to know the real pinay then speak to the rich girls in the PI or go once to Dubai. If they have money they don't need you and don't smile to you.
They are verry hard (they should be. They work hard for the money just to give to the no good bothers and single mother because father died of all the Red Horse beer or walked away to a younger Pinay). Insiders say they have a dual (two) heart. They just show the nice heart if they need you.
Last note on Pinay (oy). They live by day (there is no tomorow).
What that means you can imagine. But if you take them home and they have money you surely will divorse the most of them.
I like to fool arround with the girls. But it is so dissapointing that they don't care about the area they are living (all the dirt and polution of cars). In my view Cambodian (Khmer) girls are looking better then Pinay and Cambodian girls are even less demanding. While Thai are more demanding and more Ugly. But the Thai became so because to many foreighners throw arround with to many money. The same counts already in Manila (and Vietnam and Phnom Penh). Remember the average wage in the PI is ca 2$ after 12 hrs working. So it is in oure hands wether we can still have humble lovely Pinay in the future or that we spoil everything after a 2 week holiday.
Andre Cuipers, Netherlands
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Please allow me to preface my answer with the following statement; I have thoroughly read both your post and the original post (#1168) and I see merit in both. As I see it, the original post reflects a sunny day and your post portrays a cloudy day. JMHO. I would categorise the original poster as an optimist and you as a pessimist (absolutely no offence meant to you). I will define a pessimist as a person who thinks all women are bad. An optimist is one who hopes they are. Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the aeroplane and the pessimist the parachute.
You have expressed your belief that the girls who work in bars are desperate and want to leave the Philippines by marrying a foreigner. This is not correct and I would challenge you to substantiate your claim. I see you have take something out of context. Again, the optimist sees 95% employment and the pessimist sees 5% unemployment. When you criticise a girl for sending money "to the no good brothers and single mother...." you clearly do not understand the Philippine Culture. Most girls, not just bar girls, have a deep esteem for their families as typical of other Asian cultures. They completely believe that the family comes first, that is,the corner-stone of society is the family unit. In essence, the family establishes society's basic values. Therefore, it follows that Filipinas make excellent mothers/wives/friends and all the good things as expressed by the original poster.
"But if you take them home and they have money you surely will divorse most of them" Andre, you are distorting the facts. Many board members are happily married to Filippinas. Here you have exaggerated. (an exaggeration is the truth losing its temper). Again, the pessimist in you is showing through. A wise man told me once " you always borrow money from a pessimist as he doesn't expect to be paid back."
Andre, when I read your report I have to respect the fact that English is not your first language and I aways admire people who have the ability to speak more than one language fluently.
In closing (quote-desiderata).
"......therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul.
With all its drudgery,sham and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy."
Max Ehrman.
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English Tutor
How much would it cost to find a local Filipino to tutor my girlfriend in the provinces in English? Somewhere around 10 hours a week one on one tutoring.
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[QUOTE=Sleepy Floyd]How much would it cost to find a local Filipino to tutor my girlfriend in the provinces in English? Somewhere around 10 hours a week one on one tutoring.[/QUOTE]
Pennies.
We have a live in (24/7) Yaya for our home, 1200 pesos/month salary.
English tutor is gonna be cheap. Ask at the school local to her.
Cheers & all the best to you both.
AV
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Wide Brush But Hard To Argue...Insightful
[QUOTE=Andre Cuipers]A lot of items what is mentioned in the report "Why I love Filipinas the best, as lovers, playmates and best friends" is a result of two things.
1) The girls you met are poor poor girls and want to do everything to escape from this missery (the best they like is to go out of that country), Foreigners make them a millionair (for as long as you are with them or whem you are so nice to send them money which they will give directly to their family).
2) The local men are bad (drink, don't work, beat the wives) so every foreighner is nicer then they have now.
I met a lot of girls and most are not so nice. If you think on the price level of the PI then most girls "like" a lot of money. Second they will take possesion of you if you see them a few times (they will never let you be alone because they now that other pinay girls are all the same. Out for you (re money)). If you like to know the real pinay then speak to the rich girls in the PI or go once to Dubai. If they have money they don't need you and don't smile to you.
They are verry hard (they should be. They work hard for the money just to give to the no good bothers and single mother because father died of all the Red Horse beer or walked away to a younger Pinay). Insiders say they have a dual (two) heart. They just show the nice heart if they need you.
Last note on Pinay (oy). They live by day (there is no tomorow).
What that means you can imagine. But if you take them home and they have money you surely will divorse the most of them.
I like to fool arround with the girls. But it is so dissapointing that they don't care about the area they are living (all the dirt and polution of cars). In my view Cambodian (Khmer) girls are looking better then Pinay and Cambodian girls are even less demanding. While Thai are more demanding and more Ugly. But the Thai became so because to many foreighners throw arround with to many money. The same counts already in Manila (and Vietnam and Phnom Penh). Remember the average wage in the PI is ca 2$ after 12 hrs working. So it is in oure hands wether we can still have humble lovely Pinay in the future or that we spoil everything after a 2 week holiday.
Andre Cuipers, Netherlands
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While this is painting with a wide brush I have seen with my own eyes what you describe. 1. I Agree. 2.Disagree. 3. Agree 100. 4. Agree. 5. Agree. 6. Can't call. Thanks for the post. Personal experience...Dubai, Japan and PI. Homeowner in Manila.
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Good points made in your post Max. Andre words like "some", "many", "most", "often", "sometimes" will solve the problem of over-generalizations. As Max points out, over-generalizations can often be proven false.
For example:
The children of a broken family will become involved in crime.
The childeren of a broken family are MORE LIKELY to be involved in crime.
Unfortunately, SOME of the native English speakers here also TEND to overgeneralize.
X
[QUOTE=Wazza88]Andre, when I read your report I have to respect the fact that English is not your first language and I aways admire people who have the ability to speak more than one language fluently.
Max Ehrman.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Wazza88]... You have expressed your belief that the girls who work in bars are desperate and want to leave the Philippines by marrying a foreigner. This is not correct and I would challenge you to substantiate your claim...[/QUOTE]
Wazza i'd like to chime in here & say that in my experience whilst some BG's are career hookers, most are not. Most are girl next door types who through circumstance find themselves doing that job.
Common life story from bar girls is : from a poor family, job of last resort either due to loss of breadwinner in family at early age (typically father) or got knocked up by pinoy guy (long gone) & shamed into taking this work to support the new mouth to feed.
If you don't think girls in this situation don't dream of falling in love with a nice rich foreigner and having a better life you're kidding yourself.
When bar girls look me in the eye & say 'this is not my dream job' I understand where she is coming from in this strictly catholic hypocritical country.
Amavida
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Wazza i'd like to chime in here & say that in my experience whilst some BG's are career hookers, most are not. Most are girl next door types who through circumstance find themselves doing that job.
Common life story from bar girls is : from a poor family, job of last resort either due to loss of breadwinner in family at early age (typically father) or got knocked up by pinoy guy (long gone) & shamed into taking this work to support the new mouth to feed.
If you don't think girls in this situation don't dream of falling in love with a nice rich foreigner and having a better life you're kidding yourself.
When bar girls look me in the eye & say 'this is not my dream job' I understand where she is coming from in this strictly catholic hypocritical country.
Amavida[/QUOTE]I have to agree based on my experience and 20+ visits to the PI. Most of these girls would not be working in the bars unless they absolutely had to due to various financial circumstances but nearly all of them are hoping to hit the jackpot and latch onto a foreigner. That's like winning the lotto there. Anyone who thinks otherwise is really living in denial. Why do you think Filipinas provide such an excellent GFE to someone they just met? It's because every guy that that hooks up with them is a potential winning lottery ticket and they will be on their best behavior and do anything they can to convince you to stay with them longer and (perish the thought) marry them. I'm not complaining or knocking this situation. In fact, it's due to this reality that I prefer the PI to Thailand for the excellent GFE. But for anyone to believe these girls don't have an ulterior motive for "falling in love" with an overweight guy 20 years her senior. Well I have some excellent beach front property in Angles City that I'd like to sell you.
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Even Worse...
Not only is Sushi's post entirely accurate, but let's not forget that these girls often also feed the entire family with their earnings, and send younger siblings to school.
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[QUOTE=Pocket Sushi]Well I have some excellent beach front property in Angles City that I'd like to sell you.[/QUOTE]
How much are you asking for your property?
Me and a couple of friends could be seriously interested in buying it!
Stephen
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And so do some of the factory ladies toiling away on Mactan Island. I've had some early flights out of Cebu, in a taxi on the way to the airport and seen so many attractive young women on the streets, on their way to work.
I've been tempted to give up the bars and hang out at jeepney stops in Lapu lapu at 7am.
Inadvertently, I've had the pleasure of intimacy with two of these ladies thanks to online connection -- one was just a fk, the other, met papa and siblings, then a very romantic time at Alona beach....
Next visit I called her and her sis answered the phone, "Oh, she's in the US now." Of course I couldn't really complain, since I hadn't kept in touch.
Since the original poster, Sushi, was referring to bar girls, shall we assume the same thing about regular girls?
My feeling is that SOME of the regular girls are more conniving than the bar girls, but I guess it ends up the same...who do you trust?
X
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Not only is Sushi's post entirely accurate, but let's not forget that these girls often also feed the entire family with their earnings, and send younger siblings to school.[/QUOTE]
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You may have construed my answer wrongly.
[QUOTE=Amavida]Wazza i'd like to chime in here & say that in my experience whilst some BG's are career hookers, most are not. Most are girl next door types who through circumstance find themselves doing that job.
Common life story from bar girls is : from a poor family, job of last resort either due to loss of breadwinner in family at early age (typically father) or got knocked up by pinoy guy (long gone) & shamed into taking this work to support the new mouth to feed.
If you don't think girls in this situation don't dream of falling in love with a nice rich foreigner and having a better life you're kidding yourself.
When bar girls look me in the eye & say 'this is not my dream job' I understand where she is coming from in this strictly catholic hypocritical country.
Amavida[/QUOTE]Hi AV,
IMHO, with respect, there has been a flawed interpretation, on your part of my post (#1181). The original post (#1180) contained sweeping statements/generalizations where the poster stated " 1) The girls you met are poor,poor girls who wanted to do everything to escape from this misery (the best they like is to go out of the country), foreigners make them a millionair..."
FYI.
A general/sweeping statement or conclusion that is presented as a general truth but based on limited or incomplete evidence, then the process of verification is necessary to determine whether a generalization holds true for any given situation.
My point is that the original poster made a sweeping statement and I merely asked him to prove his claim. I did not say that bar girls did not want to marry foreigners.
You will see X MAN (#1185) has picked this up and has given a clear example of how to correctly write a statement without over-generalising.
Take care, travel safe.
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[QUOTE=X Man]..My feeling is that SOME of the regular girls are more conniving than the bar girls, but I guess it ends up the same...who do you trust?
X[/QUOTE]
Hi X,
Reality Check :
Even for the most down to earth & sensible of us, the fog of sexual desire & bula bula from a beautiful attractive young woman can be hard to resist.
In this country the 'prime directive' of all girls from poor family's who turn 18 is 'get a SUPPORTIVE husband'. In this Asian country many girls are willing put up with being a 'second wife' to a married man in order to get his support.
Whenever you need a reality check about a girls feelings for you, just invent a flimsy reason to need the password for their email account to 'help' them with a problem in their email. 99% of girls are so unsophisticated they will immediately give it. Take a look in their email account when she's not around, you will see that the beautiful loving girl who gazes into your eyes lovingly & tells you how gwapo you are, has been courting ANYTHING & EVERYTHING. Race, creed, fat, skinny, ugly, total loser with no personality - doesn't matter. Foreigner = $$$ in their mind.
i've done this many times & it sure brings you back to reality real quick from the reality distortion field these girls are good at creating.
BTW going to meet the parents is a cruel lie on the part of a foreigner, if you have no intention of being a fiance/husband don't do it. She is parading you in front of the folks as her 'catch' & loses face when you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off never to be seen again.
For somebody looking for a great life partner I could think of a lot worse than a good pinay wife but I advise extreme caution or you will get burned.
Cheers
Amavida
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[QUOTE=Beijing Lover]How much are you asking for your property?
Me and a couple of friends could be seriously interested in buying it!
Stephen[/QUOTE]
Count me in about that beach-front property in AC
I didn't know global warming is happening that fast
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Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Parading you in front of friends and family - yes, I got that impression. But if at her request on the first date, I don't see how this could be construed as a de-facto marriage proposal.
X
[QUOTE=Amavida]
BTW going to meet the parents is a cruel lie on the part of a foreigner, if you have no intention of being a fiance/husband don't do it. She is parading you in front of the folks as her 'catch' & loses face when you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off never to be seen again.
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Not always
[QUOTE=X Man]Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Parading you in front of friends and family - yes, I got that impression. But if at her request on the first date, I don't see how this could be construed as a de-facto marriage proposal.
X[/QUOTE]It is not always true. I've gotten to know a semi-pro and her modus operandi quite well. She uses these 'family introductions' in a very calculated way. This girl basically has a very short list of what she considers 'special friends' and in order to build loyalty w/ these guys during their PI visits she will bring them home to meet the family. Father, mother, brothers, sisters, the whole damn shibang. She's already had several mongerers there, parading through a farce of 'this is my boyfriend of the moment' so the family must be on to it. But it is a weird dynamic that doesn't need to be delved into here. Suffice to say the motivations/dynamic behind the family intro isn't always as straightforward as one might assume. It is highly likely the family is in on the deal and is aiding the girl's effort, whatever that may be. Mongerers should be careful not too assume to much. Even when it comes to the supposedly 'oblivious family.
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Yeah I Do
[QUOTE=X Man]Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Parading you in front of friends and family - yes, I got that impression. But if at her request on the first date, I don't see how this could be construed as a de-facto marriage proposal.
X[/QUOTE]
If you on a hit and run mission I think it is totally weak to meet the girls parents. In most Asian countries I have been to South Korea, Japan, Thailand and Taiwan etc... if a girl introduces you to the old folks its pretty serious business. I am not saying when a guy meets a lady he should be thinking of marriage right away but if you know your only goal is to screw then…
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Me Too
[QUOTE=X Man]Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Parading you in front of friends and family - yes, I got that impression. But if at her request on the first date, I don't see how this could be construed as a de-facto marriage proposal.
X[/QUOTE]We all have our agenda's but tend to forget that they all have agendae of their own.
To illustrate the Pinay mind, I heard that GMA wanted to increase the international reputation of the Philippines by initiating a space programme. She initially wanted to send a Pinoy to the moon but when she heard that this had been done she said OK we will land one on the sun. When informed that this could be risky because of the high temperature she said OK no problem they could land at night!
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GMA is an economist
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]To illustrate the Pinay mind, I heard that GMA wanted to increase the international reputation of the Philippines by initiating a space programme. She initially wanted to send a Pinoy to the moon but when she heard that this had been done she said OK we will land one on the sun. When informed that this could be risky because of the high temperature she said OK no problem they could land at night![/QUOTE]Please remember that she's an economist, not a physicist. Assuming that she was trained as a neo-liberal Western economist, a la Milton Friedman, then probably every intellectual exercize she ever engaged in was built around a hypothetical supply-demand equilibrium rather than any actual market place involving real humans.
There's a well-worn story involving a physicist, a geologist, and an economist who got stranded in the desert after a plane crash. The only food they had available was an unopened can of beans. The geologist suggested that perhaps a sharp rock could be used to puncture the can, but the other two thought too much food would still be left inside after making the puncture. The physicist suggested using the lens of a pair of their eyeglasses to burn a hole in the can. The others rejected it as too time consuming. Finally the economist raised his hand and opined, "assume a can opener. . ."
Sorry, I just couldn't resist when the topic of GMA as a Pinay exemplar was raised.
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Houzi, seems to have the best answer here, which explains why I got laid rather quickly after meeting the elders.
D'etat's post stikes me as odd. Comparing Japan and S. Korea to Philippines is way off the mark. He is correct in that if a J or K lady invites you to meet the parents, it's gotten very serious. I never had that feeling in the Philippines.
I am single and available, so I have no guilty feelings on my side - I think D'etat posted about "hit and run"...
Gamahucher, that is absolutely hilarious.
AV, you can hate me all you want, but I think your info is suspect. You should get out of AC more often. I've met many ladies and her parents and nothing has come of it. I've never gotten bad vibes from these ladies afterward. Filipinos are group oriented and family oriented, and it's natural that they introduce you to the clan.
BTW, there was one lady, I've told her story here, posted her pussy pics at ISG, met her family, fkd her a few hours later, she tried to scam me two weeks later, now is married in USA.
I got some really hot pics of four differnet gals that are now ....um ....married. So, if you see your wife's pic here after going back in the files,,,I'm really sorry. I only did her once and she scremed out some other guys name at the moment of ectasy...it was your name! Really!
X
[QUOTE=Houziwang]It is not always true. I've gotten to know a semi-pro and her modus operandi quite well. She uses these 'family introductions' in a very calculated way. This girl basically has a very short list of what she considers 'special friends' and in order to build loyalty w/ these guys during their PI visits she will bring them home to meet the family. Father, mother, brothers, sisters, the whole damn shibang. She's already had several mongerers there, parading through a farce of 'this is my boyfriend of the moment' so the family must be on to it. But it is a weird dynamic that doesn't need to be delved into here. Suffice to say the motivations/dynamic behind the family intro isn't always as straightforward as one might assume. It is highly likely the family is in on the deal and is aiding the girl's effort, whatever that may be. Mongerers should be careful not too assume to much. Even when it comes to the supposedly 'oblivious family.[/QUOTE]
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Whats Odd?
[QUOTE=X Man]Houzi, seems to have the best answer here, which explains why I got laid rather quickly after meeting the elders.
D'etat's post stikes me as odd. Comparing Japan and S. Korea to Philippines is way off the mark. He is correct in that if a J or K lady invites you to meet the parents, it's gotten very serious. I never had that feeling in the Philippines.
I am single and available, so I have no guilty feelings on my side - I think D'etat posted about "hit and run"...
Gamahucher, that is absolutely hilarious.
AV, you can hate me all you want, but I think your info is suspect. You should get out of AC more often. I've met many ladies and her parents and nothing has come of it. I've never gotten bad vibes from these ladies afterward. Filipinos are group oriented and family oriented, and it's natural that they introduce you to the clan.
BTW, there was one lady, I've told her story here, posted her pussy pics at ISG, met her family, fkd her a few hours later, she tried to scam me two weeks later, now is married in USA.
I got some really hot pics of four differnet gals that are now ....um ....married. So, if you see your wife's pic here after going back in the files,,,I'm really sorry. I only did her once and she scremed out some other guys name at the moment of ectasy...it was your name! Really!
X[/QUOTE]
You want to talk about odd? What’s odd is the way you are scrutinizing and refuting every damn thing AV is posting. Second thing is you are right. You can't compare Japan, Korea and the Philippines. Lived over a year in the first two countries. I said in Asia most girls if they ask you to meet the parents there is some reason behind it. Whether it’s saintly or sinister there is a reason. Nine times out of ten the ulterior motive is they are serious about you.
Great work X the world is proud of you for not having guilty feelings. What’s your next trick? Nothing wrong with going in for the one nighter or the monthly fling but how a man does it in my opinion is what it is all about. Also great way to end your post real sophomoric. Don't talk like you are Mr. Playboy either you PMed me a couple of months ago asking how to meet Filipinas in Japan because you were not having any luck :(
To quote Jay-Z the greatest hip hop mogul of our time.
“Don’t let me expose you to those people who don’t know you.”
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Hi X, Im laid up with an illness so I have an unusual amount of time to browse the forums this week.
[QUOTE=X Man]...I am single and available, so I have no guilty feelings on my side...[/QUOTE]
Everything about your posts seems to be a justification of your behavior. Thats your business X.
[QUOTE=X Man]AV, you can hate me all you want[/QUOTE]
Nobody hates anybody here, we are just here to discuss our hobby & matters relating to it. How each person behaves on this board is a measure of the person.
[QUOTE=X Man] I think your info is suspect[/QUOTE]
I dont care :D
FYI I live here with a wife & kid (boy). I have a 'second wife' & kid (girl) and several girl friends. In addition I bonk bar girls & Internet girls from time to time. Rather than blow into town, copulate frantically with anything & then blow out of town I have plenty of great sex with really nice girls/women regularly.
[QUOTE=X Man] You should get out of AC more often[/QUOTE]
Thanks so much for your advice X.
FYI I live at the other end of the Phils, I fly to Manila on business & so I monger there & AC out of convenience. Occasionally i sneak off to other destinations but not as often as I'd like.
[QUOTE=X Man] I've met many ladies and her parents and nothing has come of it. I've never gotten bad vibes from these ladies afterward[/QUOTE]
You're mongering in an Asian culture X, a lot goes on under the surface.
[QUOTE=X Man]Filipinos are group oriented and family oriented, and it's natural that they introduce you to the clan.[/QUOTE]
True X, but a little cultural sensitivity wouldn't go astray. Like D'etat said, going to meet the parents is serious business. the folks are often very tolerant, but I can assure you she does lose face when you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off. If you just want fun its easy to have a reason not to meet the folks. The girl will understand...
Take Care X
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AV, a "justification of my behavior". What are you referring too? Maybe, the fact that I sometimes disagree with you? If that is what you are referring to, please find something tangible to argue, rather than letting fly with a bunch of unrelated comments. I have to say you and D'etat have similar ways of dealing with criticism.
Our first spat came when you were bragging about doing virgins, and now you tell us you are a married sllutt on top of everything else. (I have no problem with the "sllutt" part, btw). Ironically, you and D'etat now criticize me for not feeling guilty for having sex with single women who have asked me to meet the family.
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D'etat,
My "odd" comment was about what you wrote - not you. You seem kind of sensitive about the "odd" word, so I’m sorry for that.
As for my sophmoric humor at the end, I agree. It wasn't funny, and it wasn't appropriate. I'm sorry if anyone was offended.
I thought AV's comment about “meeting family” was very interesting simply because I know, and D’etat, knows, things work differently in East Asia. I asked others to post because I was hoping to learn from others. It's unfortunate that a very complicated idea of culture has resulted in tit for tat angry messages at ISG.
D'etat seems to indicate I should feel guilty about having sex with women? I've had pleanty of long term relationships with Filipinas, so you're wrong to assume I'm there just for a qk fk. BTW, have you read AV's latest message?
Also, I never claimed to be a playboy. What's up with that? Why are you making things up? SHould I avoid talking about sex on the ISG board? I thought that was the whole purpose?
As for Filipinas in Japan, my memory was asking you how YOU met Filipinas in Japan. I think the ISG creed is meeting and sexing women....it seems kind of ODD that you would criticize me here, for a private message I sent which simply was in accord with the ISG
And what do you mean by the quote? Are you threatening to reveal personal information about me? That is about as low as you can go on the ISG board.
X
[QUOTE=D Etat]You want to talk about odd? What’s odd is the way you are scrutinizing and refuting every damn thing AV is posting. Second thing is you are right. You can't compare Japan, Korea and the Philippines. Lived over a year in the first two countries. I said in Asia most girls if they ask you to meet the parents there is some reason behind it. Whether it’s saintly or sinister there is a reason. Nine times out of ten the ulterior motive is they are serious about you.
Great work X the world is proud of you for not having guilty feelings. What’s your next trick? Nothing wrong with going in for the one nighter or the monthly fling but how a man does it in my opinion is what it is all about. Also great way to end your post real sophomoric. Don't talk like you are Mr. Playboy either you PMed me a couple of months ago asking how to meet Filipinas in Japan because you were not having any luck :(
To quote Jay-Z the greatest hip hop mogul of our time.
“Don’t let me expose you to those people who don’t know you.”[/QUOTE]
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AV/X Man Spat
Still think handbags at dawn outside LA Cafe would be the solution :)
Seriously all the forums have at least one devil's advocate or self appointed old hand/expert (unless its the Thai forum which has loads) and provided they are useful contributors who cares and in fact they can sometimes spice things up. I think X man would be the first to admit that he is can be a prickly ass at times but his contribution is solid so it being the nature of the beast we have to endure the contrary aspects of his nature. One X Man or Amavida is worth a hundred useless lurkers who only emerge from under their logs at infrequent intervals to ask stupid, pointless questions which a minutes use of the search facility would have answered.
Hope you get better soon AV. Regards GH
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Trying to get back on topic....
In case anyone has forgotten, some ISG members have proclaimed that you should not waste time meeting women who bring along friends, or relatives. Others, including me, have suggested that this could be quite an adventure, and also seems to result in a very happy conclusion.See the chat/penpal thread for some of these posts.
So, does the foreigner meet the family, charm them in a devious way, take advantage of the situation, and then violate the daughter in most kinky ways....possibly taking her virginity? (see av posts for more about virginity)
Or is this just Fil culture...? I spent the night with a CB friend (who lied and claimed she was a virgin) and then the next morning invited me up to the montain where I met papa, and was rather suprised when she said, "He said I could accompany". And so she did. She was the breadwinner of the family (Mactan factory) and my feeling, was she called the shots but was showing respect for her family.
So, I'm posting reality. I realize it is a small dose of reality, but that is my experience. AV can live in Philippines all he wants, but if he doesn't tell us something useful, what's the point?
I somehow think he as some good stuff to add.
D'etat on the other hand would have to do dogenaza to get my respect anytime soon.
You do know what that means, don't you mr smarty pants?
X
[QUOTE=X Man]Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Parading you in front of friends and family - yes, I got that impression. But if at her request on the first date, I don't see how this could be construed as a de-facto marriage proposal.
X[/QUOTE]
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Who knows?
[QUOTE=X Man]Does anyone else have an opinion on this? Parading you in front of friends and family - yes, I got that impression. But if at her request on the first date, I don't see how this could be construed as a de-facto marriage proposal.
X[/QUOTE]
When I went back to Davao City I joined up with Cherry Blossoms in order to meet more Davao girls faster I started chatting with this pretty 20 year old and tried to get her to come to me in Davao, we couldnt work it out the distances and time frames were too wrong anyway this is what she told me in an email.
[QUOTE] u maybe righ in saying u are worry that ur too old for me. but i wantu to know meeting and making friends with older person means marrying them immediately[/QUOTE]
I am too scared to go meet this lady even if she is pretty her dad is a policeman and an older filipina told me maybe I might get a shotgun wedding if I go to visit her.
I belong to a forum based in Cebu and the folks there advise not to go meet the family of the girl unless I was serious. The anecdotal evidence seems to be both ways. Sorry X Man this may be one of those unsolved mysteries peculiar to the Philippines?
I was talking with a filipina friend and she said out of the blue such and such a person didnt show respect to her. I was puzzled by this because I never saw any rudeness directed to her from this person, investigating I found out this person did something without asking her like somehow this activity was in my friends domain and she should show respect by asking her first.
Maybe its like that X Man as you suggest a courtesy thing before you can do the deed.
Oh yeah I'd be happy to meet any of the girl's friends who come along I have this sweet beautiful girl waiting for me again in the Philippines who I chatted with last night and she is hot to meet up with me again. She was a background girl until I noticed her and edged out the foreground girls. I would never have met her if her friends had not brought her along.
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Meeting the family
Very interesting post BB. I wonder if older guy = marriage prospect exists because they think we are desperate.
I've chatted with a few women -- and I suppose I was being a bit of a prickly ass -- and was really surprised when they then laid into me with the "dirty old man" insult. I'm pretty low-key about sexual things in chat, so didn't deserve the "dirty" part. Have to admit though that I'm much older than them...and of course that I'm a prickly ass. Anyway, it struck me as odd that they are their chatting with older guys, asking "how's your search", but inside thinking "dirty old man".
Back to meeting the parents or guardian. (met a girl in Cebu who invited me to meet her aunt in Bohol who happens to be her guardian. I didn't due to lack of time, but she is one hell of a charmer.)
If you do meet the family, you are naturally ratcheting up the "relationship" and therefore should proceed with caution. What level you are ratcheting up to is debatable, and probably tends to depend a lot on circumstances. Father is a policeman?.....give it a miss.
Let me suggest two opposite scenarios:
1) Girl is very young and/or innocent, possibly cherry, lives in rural or otherwise isolated area that tends to be conservative and/or religious and doesn't see many foreigners. You tell a few fibs regarding you "availability" and "intentions". You meet the family, seduce her for a qk fk, and then dump her - maybe walking about town with a different girl on your arm the next day. This is stupid, immoral, and dangerous in my opinion.
2) Girl is 24+, some experience with men, and shows some degree of maturity or independence -- having a job, or even being the family breadwinner would count. You are generally honest with her, like her, feel some affection for her. You meet the family, seduce her (or vice versa), likely spend a few days with her, then get on an airplane and leave. This just strikes me as acceptable. Yes, she might be in love and there might be some drama, but that's how relationships work.
I've had women ask me if we were in a long term relationship. My truthful answer is "I really like you, but I have to get on a plane, so of course this isn't long term." They seem to have accepted that. Now, if you live in Philippines things will get more complicated. A while back there was an interesting discussion about white lies, and avoiding unfortunate truths...but this message is already getting too long.
To sum up, don't treat a regular girl like p4p, and don't take advantage of a naive girl.
Now, does meeting the family set those wedding bells to ringing. I guess one way to find out is start asking some of your Filipina friends for their opinion. Don't listen to some prickly ass.
X
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Famly Meetings
For whatever it's worth, having lived here for about five years, my strong recommendation is never to meet the family unless you're going to get married. There's little upside to the "adventure" other than being able to post about it for some of the less clued in who lurk herein. Really, what is the point of meeting the family? For them, it's easy. Size up the ATM and try to assess the potential reward for family members. See if you're worth their daughter's time. Doe you though, where's the upside potential in all of this?
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GE, for me personally, some of my most memorable adventures were when I got on a bus or van and went out into the countryside to meet family. I like getting out of the city and I like seeing how ordinary people live, I like meeting new people. I went to places and met people and had experiences I would never have had if I'd not accepted their kind offers.
I've invariably gotten laid after meeting the family, so that could be an upside as well, although I never thought about it much until recently - and that wasn't some devious strategy on my part. This would also seem to lend credence to AV's idea that meeting the family suggests a serious relationship heading toward marriage. I'm still not convinced of that, but it will be on my mind next time I get an invitation.
On the other hand, when ladies suggest bringing Mom to the first meeting, I draw the line. I don't see any advantage to that. Hmm, maybe I sound contradictory on that point.
BTW, the little cutey that joined me at your party....I met her family. Daddy cut open a few coconuts for me with his machete.
I might up and run next time I see someone's Daddy carrying a machete!
X
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]For whatever it's worth, having lived here for about five years, my strong recommendation is never to meet the family unless you're going to get married. There's little upside to the "adventure" other than being able to post about it for some of the less clued in who lurk herein. Really, what is the point of meeting the family? For them, it's easy. Size up the ATM and try to assess the potential reward for family members. See if you're worth their daughter's time. Doe you though, where's the upside potential in all of this?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man]BTW, the little cutey that joined me at your party....I met her family. Daddy cut open a few coconuts for me with his machete.
I might up and run next time I see someone's Daddy carrying a machete!
X[/QUOTE]Well, this had me laughing. Sounds like the US equivalent of Daddy cleaning his shotgun when you come to pick up his daughter for prom!
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This Thing Called Respect
[QUOTE=X Man]D'etat on the other hand would have to do dogenaza to get my respect anytime soon.
You do know what that means, don't you mr smarty pants?
X[/QUOTE]
I grew up destitute in one of the most dangerous cities in America. Now in my late 20s I have lived in Japan and South Korea. I own a nice house in an upscale suburb of Metro Manila. I wear nice jewelry and can afford to travel at my leisure any where on this green earth and party like rock star. X I am self made.
I don’t know what possessed you to think your respect means something to me. I respect myself X. I also didn’t come here looking for respect or to make friends. I can do what you do X travel to impoverished nations and use my new found wealth to seduce the native women of the land but what’s the fucking point. Why I am living there in PI you ask? Because a lady came into my life that I met while vacationing in Japan. PI happened to be her native country.
I am a monger. If was not I wouldn’t be on this board. I always tell women up front what to expect and that’s that. They can take it or leave it. I don’t bend or fold. I don’t look down on anyone for the way they live and I don’t tell people how to live. I only offer a opinion.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]For whatever it's worth, having lived here for about five years, my strong recommendation is never to meet the family unless you're going to get married. There's little upside to the "adventure" other than being able to post about it for some of the less clued in who lurk herein. Really, what is the point of meeting the family? For them, it's easy. Size up the ATM and try to assess the potential reward for family members. See if you're worth their daughter's time. Doe you though, where's the upside potential in all of this?[/QUOTE]
Now here is a man I have grown to respect over the last three years I have been a member of this fine forum.
I said it once I am saying it again. If all you is looking for is a screw and thats it to meet the family is bullshit. But hey to each its own.
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Thank you for the biography. Most people I know are "self made", and many people I know who live in Asia don't really understand the place. I have to suspect you are one of them since you make a sweeping generalization that because something is true in Japan, it must be true in Philippines. If that isn't what you meant, then I apologize for my misunderstanding.
I agree with what is quoted below as I've said in an earlier post.
[QUOTE=D Etat]
I said it once I am saying it again. If all you is looking for is a screw and thats it to meet the family is bullshit. But hey to each its own.[/QUOTE]
Japan and Philippines are both island countries in Asia, and both are smaller than the state of California. Anyway, just some interesting stats I gathered (mostly) from the CIA fact book.
Population
J: 127 mil
P: 91 mil
Median age
J: 43.5
P: 22.7
Fertility rate:
J: 1.3
P: 3.05
Life span
J: 82
P: 71
Religion
J: Buddhist/Shintoist, most people practice both, few have deep religious feelings
P: Roman Catholic 80% - many are deeply religious
Literacy
J: 99%
P: 92%
Ethinic group
J: 99 % homogenous Japanese culture
P: 28 % Tagalog, 13 % Cebuano, and many others
GDP per capita
J: 33,800 / 2nd largest economy in the world
P: 3,300 / one of the poorest countries in the world
Below poverty line
J: ?
P: 30%
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[QUOTE=X Man]Thank you for the biography. Most people I know are "self made", and many people I know who live in Asia don't really understand the place. I have to suspect you are one of them since you make a sweeping generalization that because something is true in Japan, it must be true in Philippines. If that isn't what you meant, then I apologize for my misunderstanding. blah blah blah
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Refute, then apologise, now where have we heard that before ???
Having drawn the line with AV it must be time for Mr X to start on another member, all I ask is, what value is any of this for the average mongering reader??
Time to get back on track guys and give the arguments a rest, if you can ??
Thanks for the lectures, but..........
F/Fifty
PS Dont even bother having a go at me, I simply do not care anymore.
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Meeting Family
There are lot of pitfalls in meeting the family.
1. It is hard to refuse your lovely girls request to meet her family. But the truth is the whole family has heard of you and it is some kind of credit for the girl who has bagged a foreigner and she wants to prove to the family that you are real and you love her.
2. The family will size you up as a ATM strength. In reality not all the families are looking for money from you. some of them are really well off considering they own land and house and have been making a good living even before you came into their picture. Unfortunately Philippino people have large families and they cannot afford to send all to college to study. Even if they do there are very few job opportunities. Their main concern is if you take care of the girl they need not support her and can concentrate on other children.
3. Girls know very well that if they screw your brains out you are more likely to keep friendship and support her. Platonic relationships do not last long. Besides it is a physical, hormonal thing. If she does not have sex with you she is doing with somebody else who do not give anything. Very few cherry girls last long if they try to hold out for long.
4. Curiosity got the better of you as a cultural thing. Get a hold on yourself. It is not all that interesting to see how the people live. Watch National Geographic to get the feel. The more detached you are from the family the better for you even if you marry her.
5. If you are into feeling sorry for the people , donate to your charity. If you start donating to the family there will be no end.
6. Finally dating normal girls is good. It is a good dating experience like any other. You never know. Maybe you will marry her and have a good loving relationship. I believe very few people will actually seduce them and run away with no interest in helping the girls atleast a short time. Being honest will be good in this situation so that the girl will know what to expect and will be ready for the eventuality.
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In 2 trips to the PI, I only met one girls family. Only time I did not get laid and just wanted to get the hell out of there. I think she was smart enough to assume I did not fly all the way over there to spend 4 days with her then return home.
A few months ago on her friendster it has her married with pictures of her and her new "gwapo". White guy. Lot's of pictures of her and the new sucker. Slowly his picture has been moved toward the back of her picture sets. And she is back on CB looking for some dude to support her family.
My adivce is also don't meet the family unless you are really into the girl. The family members will be showing up wherever you and the girl are at. And you will be picking up the bills.
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Well, Sammon, I have to keep up my reputation as a caustic prickly ass who will disagree with anyone and everything, I never once suspected that the family thought of me as an ATM. After all, they don't have ATM's up on the mountains.
Try to be more logical in your next post!
But I'm sorry if I misundertood your post (I've been "apologizing continually" according to the fan mail in my PM box).
X
PS, I don't watch National Geographic. Should I rent the video?
[QUOTE=Sammon]There are lot of pitfalls in meeting the family.
1. It is hard to refuse your lovely girls request to meet her family. But the truth is the whole family has heard of you and it is some kind of credit for the girl who has bagged a foreigner and she wants to prove to the family that you are real and you love her.
2. The family will size you up as a ATM strength. In reality not all the families are looking for money from you. some of them are really well off considering they own land and house and have been making a good living even before you came into their picture. Unfortunately Philippino people have large families and they cannot afford to send all to college to study. Even if they do there are very few job opportunities. Their main concern is if you take care of the girl they need not support her and can concentrate on other children.
3. Girls know very well that if they screw your brains out you are more likely to keep friendship and support her. Platonic relationships do not last long. Besides it is a physical, hormonal thing. If she does not have sex with you she is doing with somebody else who do not give anything. Very few cherry girls last long if they try to hold out for long.
4. Curiosity got the better of you as a cultural thing. Get a hold on yourself. It is not all that interesting to see how the people live. Watch National Geographic to get the feel. The more detached you are from the family the better for you even if you marry her.
5. If you are into feeling sorry for the people , donate to your charity. If you start donating to the family there will be no end.
6. Finally dating normal girls is good. It is a good dating experience like any other. You never know. Maybe you will marry her and have a good loving relationship. I believe very few people will actually seduce them and run away with no interest in helping the girls atleast a short time. Being honest will be good in this situation so that the girl will know what to expect and will be ready for the eventuality.[/QUOTE]
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meeting the parents
I think the consensus from most of the posters was that the negative aspects of meeting a woman's parents outweigh the advantages. Not everyone touched on the specific issue of whether meeting parents might create some expectation of marriage. I asked a few Filipinas and so far rec'd only one answer. This one from a college educated lady, early 20s, in Visayan region, did not grow up in a big city, but lives there now. I didn't meet her parents (but was invited) and I didn't get past first base. Here is her answer:
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Well, it's my pleasure to answer your question...
Meeting Filipina's parents doesn't mean that you want to marry that girl maybe unless you had relationship (more than just a friend) towards that person and both of you decided already to got married...But it cannot be denied that before ,if a guy meets the parents of the one he loves,obviously he want to marry that girl...I think that was around 1970s-1980s..But it did not practiced as of now...We're modern now,so it's already accepted.
In fact we had a more Friends,boy or girl, welcome to our family..Where did you get that information?
So, your scared to meet my family because of that information???hehehehehe
Your cute...thank you for the question...
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Hey, I got a compliment out of that question, so I will thank AV for bringing up such an interesting topic in the first place! Ha, ha, AV, I bet you never thought you would get a compliment from ME!
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Dear X man,
This is a forum for opinions and discussions. I am not offended by yours or anybody's reply.
PS. Rent a video so that you can watch with the whole family.- lol.
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Meeting The Relatives
You guys are amusing in your way of thinking. Setting ground rules for meeting family members? In my view it can be a privilege to meet relatives and friends of the women you pursue. They can only open up doors leading to having great experiences!
Why visit the Philippines? To stay in 4 or 5 star hotels rubbing elbows with other tourists? Attending weddings, cockfights, discos, parties, etc. can be very rewarding and prosperous. When I visit, I always try to meet as many people as possible.
Sounds like some of you are meeting the wrong kind of people. You need to circulate and see what comes up!
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The Difference
Going to cock fights, meeting the parents, going to the local eateries...I guess it's all an adventure if you're on vacation. It's different though, if you actually live here, work here, make your home here. Then, the dirt, the poverty and other generally down market stuff is just something unpleasant and to be avoided. You probably wouldn't hang out at cock fights or shacks in your home country or at least I sure wouldn't and it's for the same reasons that I don't go looking for them here.
GE
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Random Thoughts....
Have any of you guys ever seen a Filipina with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigner? I always see some of the girls dating Filipino guys who have nothing. Is it all about the dough and visas when a foreigner is involved? I met my ole lady in Japan she was doing well when I met her. Working two jobs but still financially stable.
Also why do the foreigners seem to pick the low of the lot when it comes to choosing Asian women? Filipinos guys seem to know what to look for. While western guys get stuck with the gold diggers and visa runners.
I asked A Filipina about the whole meeting the parent’s thing. One close to me. My ole girl. She said if the girl pushes the guy then not a problem. But if he asks to then it’s something different. She said now and days some people do it but she doesn’t agree with it. She said the parents will expect more from the relationship (other then a wham bam thank you mam) if a guy is brought before them.
Keep in mind I am asking questions not proclaiming
Beware Of Dog
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Have any of you guys ever seen a Filipina with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigner? I always see some of the girls dating Filipino guys who have nothing. Is it all about the dough and visas when a foreigner is involved? I met my ole lady in Japan she was doing well when I met her. Working two jobs but still financially stable.
Also why do the foreigners seem to pick the low of the lot when it comes to choosing Asian women? Filipinos guys seem to know what to look for. While western guys get stuck with the gold diggers and visa runners.
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I've never seen Filipinas with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigners. Most of them seem to choose men who can provide a reasonably comfortable life-style.
Yes. It is always about dough, visas or some other resource, status or privilege. This is not limited to Filipinas. Women worldwide simply don't fuck for "free", they never have and never will so don't let it upset you.
Perhaps, it is the Asian women doing the choosing not the Western men. A woman who has a lot to offer or who is considered a prize catch may not need to turn to Western men to get what she wants since desirable local suitors may be abundant.
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hi d etat! since you have asked for opinions & im enjoying reading all these opinions i contribute from my perspective.
[quote=d etat]have any of you guys ever seen a filipina with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigner? i always see some of the girls dating filipino guys who have nothing.[/quote]
yes i have, usually the poorer homely looking girls have lower standards. they will hitch their wagon to guys that, to our western eyes, are bottom of the barrel. our family has business's back home in australia. some of the low paid uneducated manual workers in our employment there have somehow scraped together an airfare & arrived here to tell lies & inseminate girls who have no ability to support a child. some of these guys are the dirtiest grubs with no personality but still they find victims..
on the other hand a mate of mine who was a pilot & retired here on a very handsome nest egg. he managed to blow the lot on [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], women & idiotic 'business deals'. he eventually lost everything & arrived on my doorstep begging for a fare home so her could go back to australia & live off friends & relatives until he & his wife had enough money to eek out an existance on social security beneifts. throughout out all this, his long suffering pinay gf/wife stuck with him. she is still with him to this day back home in oz, going to work to support her 'retired' husband. i asked his wife "what happened?" she said to me "every day was a fiesta.."
[quote=d etat]is it all about the dough and visas when a foreigner is involved? i met my ole lady in japan she was doing well when i met her. working two jobs but still financially stable.[/quote]
i think in the majority of cases yes it is primarily about a dream to escape poverty. many girls in my family & circle of friends marry & live happy lives with pinoy men. those that hook up with foreigners have generally already been with pinoy men & for some reason decided to cast their net further afield.
as a self made man im sure that you know that the law of the jungle applies here as everywhere else.
[quote=d etat]also why do the foreigners seem to pick the low of the lot when it comes to choosing asian women? filipinos guys seem to know what to look for. while western guys get stuck with the gold diggers and visa runners.[/quote]
westerners that come here are either sent/come here on business or for vacation. the majority are on vacation. of those, most are sex tourists, lets face it. these guys arrive with a box of viagra in one hand & a fist full of dollars in the other. they usually have little or no understanding of the culture. many fall for the gfe of the women here and end up towing around girls that you & i may consider, less than ideal...
[quote=d etat]i asked a filipina about the whole meeting the parent’s thing... she said the parents will expect more from the relationship (other then a wham bam thank you mam) if a guy is brought before them.[/quote]
i agree with what your gf/partner said d'etat, im no expert but what she said is my reading of the culture here. i think ge & sammon & bob bowie (amongst others) made very good points in the negative on this debate cautioning against this practice of acting like a fiance & then pissing off. xman & mattrick (amongst others) made their points (which they are fully entitiled to) along the lines that they dont really care & enjoy the 'adventure' anyway.
its good to have this debate so that newbie lurkers can maybe get an idea of what they are walking into if they care to know..
cheers
av
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So, you see [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigners with Filipinas and you see [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor Filipinas with foreigners?
I'm not sure what your definition of "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor" is, and I'm not sure what your question is.
My answer to the question which I imagine you asked...yea, it's a strange world.
X
[QUOTE=D Etat]Have any of you guys ever seen a Filipina with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigner? I always see some of the girls dating Filipino guys who have nothing. Is it all about the dough and visas when a foreigner is involved? I met my ole lady in Japan she was doing well when I met her. Working two jobs but still financially stable.
Also why do the foreigners seem to pick the low of the lot when it comes to choosing Asian women? Filipinos guys seem to know what to look for. While western guys get stuck with the gold diggers and visa runners.
I asked A Filipina about the whole meeting the parent’s thing. One close to me. My ole girl. She said if the girl pushes the guy then not a problem. But if he asks to then it’s something different. She said now and days some people do it but she doesn’t agree with it. She said the parents will expect more from the relationship (other then a wham bam thank you mam) if a guy is brought before them.
Keep in mind I am asking questions not proclaiming
Beware Of Dog[/QUOTE]
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Meeting family = fiance?
AV, you are an enigma in your own mind.
X
[QUOTE=Amavida]I agree with what your GF/Partner said D'etat, Im no expert but what she said is my reading of the culture here. I think GE & Sammon & Bob Bowie (amongst others) made very good points in the negative on this debate cautioning against this practice of acting like a fiance & then pissing off. Xman & Mattrick (amongst others) made their points (which they are fully entitiled to) along the lines that they dont really care & enjoy the 'adventure' anyway.
Its good to have this debate so that newbie lurkers can maybe get an idea of what they are walking into if they care to know..
Cheers
AV[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man]So, you see [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigners with Filipinas and you see [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor Filipinas with foreigners?
I'm not sure what your definition of "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor" is, and I'm not sure what your question is.
My answer to the question which I imagine you asked...yea, it's a strange world.
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Man what is wrong with you?
I said I never see Filipinas with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigners and if you don't know what [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor is you are a lost cause. Dude are you an American? If not then I understand maybe you not knowing what [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor means.
It means to be destitute or poor or have an average income dude.
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[QUOTE=D Etat]
It means to be destitute or poor or have an average income dude.[/QUOTE]Damn I have a below average income I can't even make it to being [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. Maybe some girls like some guys for qualities other than money but in the Philippines I've still not tested that out next trip I'm not going to spend any money and see if they still love me.
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Man what is wrong with you?
I said I never see Filipinas with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigners and if you don't know what [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor is you are a lost cause. Dude are you an American? If not then I understand maybe you not knowing what [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor means.
It means to be destitute or poor or have an average income dude.[/QUOTE]
Hi D,
I see myself as of average income, but do not consider myself as "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor".
Girls don't see you as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor they see you as able to travel thus having money. They have no understanding of how much money you really have.
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Poor Pinays And Rich Falangs
I do not understand the basis of this discussion.
In your own country, do you see well dressed women associating with deadbeats?
No.
Do you see poor women doing their best to hitch up with rich men?
Yes.
What is the difference?
As I see it, the difference is that in their own country, women can pretty quickly susss out the level of wealth of the man. This is not as easy as with a filipina in the Philippines with a poor falang, because the falang can afford to live relatively well and convey the impression of wealth for a period of time.
The pinay will try to get to western countries because these countries have a welfare system which will guarantee a standard of living which as far better than she can expect in the Philippines.
Also, our level or regulation, consumer protection, and law and order guarantees that she will be safe from predators.
What is the discussion?
Gangles
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Stopping Kidding yourselves
Please do not delude yourselves that Filipinas, at least those from the cities, cannot figure out quickly, and reasonably accurately, the level of wealth of foreign men. There are lots of cues on which they are very quick to pick up: the type of restaurant to which you take them; the type of gifts you provide for them; your clothes and your clothing style; the types of drinks you order; the hotel in which you stay. All of these are, to them, reasonable predictors of degrees of wealth. Whether they accept you/stay with you depends on part, on whether they find that level acceptable.
The guys who don't have, or at least don't want to spend any money are not going to attract, for the most part, decently-educated, reasonably middle class Filipinas, at least not for long. They will have no trouble attracting poor girls, mostly uneducated, from the provinces, to whom even minimal luxuries represent reasonable improvements in their living standards. Here in Davao at least, if you're staying at the Marco Polo or one of the other good hotels, and you're taking the ladies to eat in European restaurants, you're going to have a much better success ratio with middle class women. This may not be an absolute law, but it's certainly true in most cases.
GE
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Ge
Having lived and worked in Manila for over 7 years I can tell everyone here that GE is very tuned in and experienced in matters relating to The Republic of the Philippines in general and Filipinas specifically.
Take heed gentlemen.
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Dating in PHI is no different than in western countries. The girl's family always wants to know about her social life.
All the girls hope and pray that they will meet perfect partner and live happily ever after. Even in here girls size up the catch in terms of dollars. This is where the term ' Gold digger' comes.
Having said that we here will never imagine and this includes the girl you are dating supporting her parents and siblings even if they are poor in comparison. This is mainly because of the social welfare we have. Very few people do not have the basic necessities.
In PHI it is a whole different story. Almost all the normal and bar girls I have talked to say they support their family. It is very disconcerting to a newbie who meets a girl here.
The perception of the relationship in Phi is different also. While in western countries it is normal to date for a long time and separate in PHI the girl does feel being used and detachment tend to scar her future relationships. While the bar girls have understood the situation, the normal girls have not. The moment you show interest in them the wedding bell starts to ring. I have met some only couple of weeks and they are already starting to ask about permanent relationship and meeting the family. This includes the girls who are educated and have decent income.
We all know in reality PHI boys love them and leave them. It puzzles me why they think a foreigner is any different. Maybe they are trying to pull on our heart strings. Even when I tell them it is nearly impossible for me to stay in PHI long time and I am not willing to take her to my country , they do not seem to care.
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Guys...Guys
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]Damn I have a below average income I can't even make it to being [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. Maybe some girls like some guys for qualities other than money but in the Philippines I've still not tested that out next trip I'm not going to spend any money and see if they still love me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bob Down]Hi D,
I see myself as of average income, but do not consider myself as "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor".
Girls don't see you as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor they see you as able to travel thus having money. They have no understanding of how much money you really have.[/QUOTE]
Guys it was not meant to be an offense. It was just something I thought about from time to time. Being around Filipinos in Dubai, Japan Korea and PI. I am not rich by no means. All people like money. PI is no different. What I meant by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor is below average pay with no visa involved. Oh well enough on this. Next topic?
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two meanings for "[CodeWord140] poor"
Actually, "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor" can mean 1) poor or 2) below standard
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]+poor[/url]
I assumed D'etat meant the second meaning when he wrote: "Have any of you guys ever seen a Filipina with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigner? (SNIP) why do the foreigners seem to pick the low of the lot when it comes to choosing Asian women? "
Also, in the intial posting D'etat DID NOT write "I never see Filipinas with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigners". He asked the question, but he didn't answer it himself. I presumed he were referring to HOT Filipinas with scraggly-looking guys -- something that is pretty common, especially in AC. So, I can understand why D'etat was perplexed by my comments on this thread. Nevertheless....
This is the second time D'etat has had a hypersensitive reaction to something I wrote -- and I'm not even trying. :-)
X (apparently also known as "dude")
[QUOTE=D Etat]Man what is wrong with you?
I said I never see Filipinas with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor foreigners and if you don't know what [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor is you are a lost cause. Dude are you an American? If not then I understand maybe you not knowing what [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor means.
It means to be destitute or poor or have an average income dude.[/QUOTE]
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Oh?
Am I the only one who is confused? X
D'etat: " I own a nice house in an upscale suburb of Metro Manila. I wear nice jewelry and can afford to travel at my leisure any where on this green earth and party like rock star. X I am self made."
[QUOTE=D Etat]Guys it was not meant to be an offense. It was just something I thought about from time to time. Being around Filipinos in Dubai, Japan Korea and PI. I am not rich by no means. All people like money. PI is no different. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor below average pay with no visa involved. Oh well enough on this next topic?[/QUOTE]
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I Am Confused Also?
Confused? That makes two of us :) Manye looking at your photos I would say you are about 35-50. You are too damn old to be this childish. I am not rich X. But I do wear nice jewelry and fly first class and own a nice house in an upscale suburb of Manila. You don’t have to be rich to do that X. What you do need though is a steady flow of capital (money) and mine comes in like Washington D.C.
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Lets move one to the next subject
Too many girls to be had, too little time to have them all...and just one XXXX to do them with...lets move one to the next subject ;)
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Filippina status symbols & inappropriate spending
[QUOTE=MichaelTheOne]Too many girls to be had, too little time to have them all...and just one XXXX to do them with...lets move one to the next subject ;)[/QUOTE]
I agree MTO!
Number one status symbol amongst average Pinay's seems to still be cell phones. How many times has a girl told you gentleman a story of hardship, you've given her some money to help out only to find she runs out & buys a top of the line cell phone! Ugh! Then to cap it off she goes & hocks it to buy milk for baby/pay rent etc. UGGHHH!!! My god every cutey I come across always puts the bite on me for a bloody cell phone sooner or later! Since I live here Im in a position to see that they are not telling lies about the phone hocking, this is what they do.. such inappropriate spending keeps them in a cycle of poverty.
Speaking of cell phones, my singaporean GF just proudly announced to me that she had bought an Apple iPhone. She knows nothing about technology at all but she found it really easy to use & is busily sending me Yahoo IM's from it. BTW this is the ONLY pinay I have _ever_ met who has never asked me for a single centavo. Wish I could have a reason to go to Singapore more often... her pic included just for fun.
Cheers
AV
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Live Now
[QUOTE=Amavida]I agree MTO!
Number one status symbol amongst average Pinay's seems to still be cell phones. How many times has a girl told you gentleman a story of hardship, you've given her some money to help out only to find she runs out & buys a top of the line cell phone! Ugh! Then to cap it off she goes & hocks it to buy milk for baby/pay rent etc. UGGHHH!!! My god every cutey I come across always puts the bite on me for a bloody cell phone sooner or later! Since I live here Im in a position to see that they are not telling lies about the phone hocking, this is what they do.. such inappropriate spending keeps them in a cycle of poverty.
Speaking of cell phones, my singaporean GF just proudly announced to me that she had bought an Apple iPhone. She knows nothing about technology at all but she found it really easy to use & is busily sending me Yahoo IM's from it. BTW this is the ONLY pinay I have _ever_ met who has never asked me for a single centavo. Wish I could have a reason to go to Singapore more often... her pic included just for fun.
Cheers
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They definitely don’t plan for the future.
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Dftft
[QUOTE=Amavida]I agree MTO!
... her pic included just for fun.
Cheers
AV[/QUOTE]Very nice AV. But take care you don't leave yourself open to some more attacks from our green eyed resident troll. First rule. DFTFT: D
One of the many things that amuse and me about life in the Philippines is the number of pawnshops. They are everywhere (must be a good business but probably cornered by the Chinese Filipino's) and the main item of pawn currency is the ubiquitous cellphone. Number of times I've asked one of my numerous temporary gf's where her phone is only to find that she has hocked it the day before (hurrah! ). Also means that the cheapest place to pick up a second hand phone is from the nearest pawnshop.
About recent technology I've just picked up one of latest ultra portable laptops called the Asus eee. I am mega impressed by it as it weighs less than a kilo, is the size of a paperback book, and yet has all the functionality of a full laptop. Has some limitations but perfect for a travel laptop. Just have to work out how to put XP on it as the installed OS is Linux Xandros, which is OK but is a pain with regards to installing software.
Cheers GH
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Cell Phone Waste
I was talking with a friend of mine, a long-time veteran of the PI, and we both agree that the money spent on cellphones and texting is a hugely unproductive drain on the economy.
What if all that money count go into investment in business free from graft and government intrusion?
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]
About recent technology I've just picked up one of latest ultra portable laptops called the Asus eee. I am mega impressed by it as it weighs less than a kilo, is the size of a paperback book, and yet has all the functionality of a full laptop. Has some limitations but perfect for a travel laptop. Just have to work out how to put XP on it as the installed OS is Linux Xandros, which is OK but is a pain with regards to installing software.
Cheers GH[/QUOTE]
I'm looking at the new air mac after lugging my mac pro laptop around the place.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Very nice AV. But take care you don't leave yourself open to some more attacks from our green eyed resident troll. First rule. DFTFT: D
[/QUOTE]DFTFT?? I am missing a few cells here. I like MR X aka DUDE's caustic comments just as I like reading yours and D'etat. D'etat, I DIDNT TAKE OFFENCE at the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor comment I was being tongue in cheek.
I have from my research worked out how to live in the Philippines in a reasonable pension and eat out everyday for 500 pesos a day. I could do it cheaper if I lived with my (next) girlfriend in her place but I do have standards.
The money I save with this frugality will be reinvested back into my nest egg which sadly got a rummaging recently. A little sacrifice and discipline today will enable me to live the life I was dreaming of before the stock market took a dive.
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Living on the cheap
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I'm looking at the new air mac after lugging my mac pro laptop around the place.
DFTFT?? I am missing a few cells here. I like MR X aka DUDE's caustic comments just as I like reading yours and D'etat. D'etat, I DIDNT TAKE OFFENCE at the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor comment I was being tongue in cheek.
I have from my research worked out how to live in the Philippines in a reasonable pension and eat out everyday for 500 pesos a day. I could do it cheaper if I lived with my (next) girlfriend in her place but I do have standards.
The money I save with this frugality will be reinvested back into my nest egg which sadly got a rummaging recently. A little sacrifice and discipline today will enable me to live the life I was dreaming of before the stock market took a dive.[/QUOTE]Hi Bilbo,
I also looked a the Mac which is a beautiful piece of equipment. Almost a work of art. However I went for the eee as its even smaller and lighter and less than a quarter of the price. Yet it has a webcam and full internet connectivity. Plus its virtually idiot proof and designed for a 10 year old which means its perfect for me! Even getting used to the toytown keyboard and hope to crack the XP installation today.
I admire you if you can live for long on 500 pesos a day. I tried that for a while a few years back, staying in P150 a night rooms at Jowards Pension on Adriatico in Malate (friendly but oh so basic) and eating local foods in malls and cafes but its not something I would want to do for extended periods. However it does allow you to meet some interesting characters and I found that many Filipinas were remarkably sympathetic and giving when they got over the shock of the realisation that a westerner appeared to be as '[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor' as they are. If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been living 'au natural'.
BTW. Just trying to wind up the wind up merchant but methinks he is too wily to be drawn.
GH
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Japanese Santa
[QUOTE=Sergeantray]I was talking with a friend of mine, a long-time veteran of the PI, and we both agree that the money spent on cellphones and texting is a hugely unproductive drain on the economy.
What if all that money count go into investment in business free from graft and government intrusion?[/QUOTE]
I hate to generalize I am into details. But like I said they live for the moment. When I stayed in Japan over a year a lot of my ole lady friends worked for peanuts hotels, warehouses, nightclubs etc.. but they owned 2000-4000 watches I could not understand it. Also some of them were illegals or visa overstayers so they could be busted and deported back to PI at any moment even so they shopped until it was no longer feasible. I also discovered something else about them whenever I would question their behavior such as the watches they seem to always turn the table. You have one too is what they would say. They seem not to know the difference between living and living above your means. In Japan though a lot of them have it good. They smile at lonely Japanese guys and they become Santa Clause. One girl I knew there was married to a cool as a fan naturalized Filipino but was getting supported by a Japanese. Incredible.
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[QUOTE=Sergeantray]I was talking with a friend of mine, a long-time veteran of the PI, and we both agree that the money spent on cellphones and texting is a hugely unproductive drain on the economy.
What if all that money count go into investment in business free from graft and government intrusion?[/QUOTE]Good point Serge but you try and extract the texting cellphone from the clutching paws of the average Filipino and you would have widespread anarchy on your hands. It is one of the few, cheap pleasures they have in their poor, blighted lives.
BTW are there businesses in the Philippines free from graft and government intrusion?
GH
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Filipinos are very friendly and sociable people but its economy stinks. 60 years of free market economy and look, its SE neighbors are so far ahead. Even Vietnam, just after 15 years coming out of the iron curtain, and is quickly catching up to it. Is it the Spanish influence?
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher] If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been living 'au natural'.
GH[/QUOTE]
Hahahahaha how did you know I was a nudist? I have just come back from a two month holiday in the Philippines. I went there to find out if I could live there and what kind of life I could have hence my research. I need to go back and see more places. I stayed in a hotel until I got my bearings then I did the cheap thing for about 3 weeks in a nice pension and then went to a luxury resort in Bacolod, Palmas del Mar for $70 dollars a night (about 3000 pesos a day food and bed) so I swung both ends of the spectrum.
I wouldn't want to be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor and living in the Philippines without any financial resources. I know how to live cheap now and so long as its a choice and not a necessity it can be fun. I don't need much just some place to work, as for women I still don't know, there were some that fell in love with me but I can't take it seriously the alchemy of white skin, money and kindness interferes with reality.
I'm hoping to spend half the year in the Philippines for the next 5 years then take my nest egg and retire there. Its good to know I can live there without being destitute.
I bought the Mac for the video and photography stuff and I'm very happy with it otherwise I might have done the same as you it gets tiring with the heavy bags when you travel.
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[QUOTE=Columpuss] Is it the Spanish influence?[/QUOTE]Yes, or more precisely, the combination of Spanish colonialism and the Catholic Church. It is noteworthy that this is the only predominantly Christian nation in Southeast Asia, and it's the one that all the newly independent nations keep passing by. First Korea, then Thailand, now Vietnam.
I'll save you from a dull and detailed history lesson: rent a copy of the Philippine-made movie, **Jose Rizal**. Rizal was a national hero whose 1896 execution by the Spanish triggered a major rebellion that was not resolved until the U. S. Intervened as a calculated extension of the Cuban-American war. Dialogue in the movie is mostly Tagalog with some Spanish. Has subtitles in several other languages, including English.
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[QUOTE=Columpuss]Filipinos are very friendly and sociable people but its economy stinks. 60 years of free market economy and look, its SE neighbors are so far ahead. Even Vietnam, just after 15 years coming out of the iron curtain, and is quickly catching up to it. Is it the Spanish influence?[/QUOTE]Hi Columpuss,
The Philippines was one of the most vibrant and go-ahead economies in SE Asia in the 50's and early 60's and in GDP terms one of the wealthiest. And then along came the bogey man otherwise known as Marcos which started the downward spiral of political mismanagement, rampant corruption and nepotism, and economic plunder on a massive scale, problems which continue to the present day. It all very sad particularly as the country is full of bright, industrious, hard working (yes, really!) folk, most of whom have to go abroad and be the worlds nurses, maids, seamen, construction workers etc, in order to earn a decent crust.
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins] I wouldn't want to be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor and living in the Philippines without any financial resources. I know how to live cheap now and so long as its a choice and not a necessity it can be fun. I don't need much just some place to work, as for women I still don't know, there were some that fell in love with me but I can't take it seriously the alchemy of white skin, money and kindness interferes with reality.[/QUOTE]And there was me thinking that you was the new George Orwell (Down and Out in Manila and Bangkok. Now there is a good idea for an aspiring young author). But otherwise the point of the exercise rather escapes me. Why live on 500 pesos a day if you have the means to live a much more affluent lifestyle? Unless it was a social experiment or you anticipate poverty as an option in the future. Maybe you are the new Chris McCandless? Sorry, I am been facetious.
Incidentaly, one of the happiest foreigners I ever met in the Philippines really was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. He was a Scandanavian, about 50ish and living in cheap local style accommodation with his 25 year old Pinay girlfriend. He had no income as such and appeared to be living on his rapidly dwindling capital. But he always seemed content with his lot and as happy as a pig in shit. Often wonder what became of him, maybe he had a lifeline like wealthy relatives back in the west. An option local indigents do not possess.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Why live on 500 pesos a day if you have the means to live a much more affluent lifestyle? Unless it was a social experiment or you anticipate poverty as an option in the future. Maybe you are the new Chris McCandless? Sorry, I am been facetious.
[/QUOTE]Surely you jest! Probably all of the above could be right. Curiosity mainly, I wanted to see at what level I could live on and be comfortable with. I lived in a 275 peso room had a cold shower, fan and cable TV. I didn't need the fan. I wasn't allowed to cook in the rooms but I could make coffee. You could eat three meals at the carinderia for about 150 pesos a day or less if one had to, I didn't get sick my friends showed me how to do it all. The room was clean the only discomfit was the cold shower but it was doable. I bought fruit from sidewalk vendors for 10 to 15 pesos and cakes etc for 5 to ten pesos.
I have a little money not a big money and it recently became smaller so poverty in the future is certainly an option. I was a lot wealthier before the divorce and before the market dive. You can lose your money as easy as blinking. If I want to make my money bigger I have to cut costs. Now I know some ways I can do it and still have a holiday in a foreign country.
I found out I don't need much and the answers to the questions what do I need to be happy and what is luxury? If I am careful with my money now I will always have the freedom of choice which is what wealth brings and what true luxury is. Another Chris McCandless? Maybe? I want a simple and uncomplicated life after the stresses and strains of my past. Maybe I will skip the solitude. I could see myself being like that Scandanavian (what 60 year old man would complain about having a 25 year old girlfriend?) except I wont have a dwindling capital if I budget right it should keep growing. I am free thanks to my divorce and I am choosing thanks to some money.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Incidentaly, one of the happiest foreigners I ever met in the Philippines really was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. He was a Scandanavian, about 50ish and living in cheap local style accommodation with his 25 year old Pinay girlfriend. He had no income as such and appeared to be living on his rapidly dwindling capital. But he always seemed content with his lot and as happy as a pig in shit. Often wonder what became of him, maybe he had a lifeline like wealthy relatives back in the west. An option local indigents do not possess.[/QUOTE]One of my friends, a pilot, retired here & did exactly this. Every day was a fiesta. Eventually he arrived on my doorstep utterly penniless. Yes he blew his entire pilots superannuation in a couple of years.
He begged a fare home so he could go live off friends & relatives back home until he could get some social security to live off there. He still bores us with stories of every night in bed with 3 women & non stop partying. He lives in a dump in Australia & takes medication for chronic depression. Some life...
AV
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Very nice AV. But take care you don't leave yourself open to some more attacks from our green eyed resident troll. First rule. DFTFT :D[/QUOTE]Thx, DTFTFT sure buts its ok to tease them a little hehehe ;)[QUOTE=Gamahucher]One of the many things that amuse and me about life in the Philippines is the number of pawnshops. Also means that the cheapest place to pick up a second hand phone is from the nearest pawnshop.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah & are'nt the girls offended if you suggest getting them a secondhand one from the pawnshops! hehehe :)[QUOTE=Gamahucher]About recent technology I've just picked up one of latest ultra portable laptops called the Asus eee... perfect for a travel laptop.[/QUOTE]I just bought one for my nephew who is 8 years old. Getting it connected to a wireless network was trivially easy compared to Windoze. I could do everything i needed EXCEPT Yahoo Instant Messenger. Damn!
All my family & friends use YM. I use a 13" Macbook for traveling. I have a 17" MacBook Pro at home & my wife & kids have mac mini's. no viri, malware, adware & virtually no maintenance. Most of my family back in Oz have gradually switched over to Mac's after I stopped volunteering to reinstall Windoze for them over & over again..[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Just have to work out how to put XP on it as the installed OS is Linux Xandros[/QUOTE]You can buy a model with XP on already, god knows why you want to though.. There is a model of HP simmillar to the eePC with Vista on it, my god imagine how slow it must be.. Cheers GH[/QUOTE]
Ingat!
AV
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[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I found out I don't need much and the answers to the questions what do I need to be happy and what is luxury? If I am careful with my money now I will always have the freedom of choice which is what wealth brings and what true luxury is. Another Chris McCandless? Maybe? I want a simple and uncomplicated life after the stresses and strains of my past. Maybe I will skip the solitude. I could see myself being like that Scandanavian (what 60 year old man would complain about having a 25 year old girlfriend?) except I wont have a dwindling capital if I budget right it should keep growing. I am free thanks to my divorce and I am choosing thanks to some money.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was part in jest, Bilbo. I am sure that readers of this board are not interested in philosophical ramblings from an old fool like myself. But I must admit I am seriously interested in the motives that drive people like you and me to abandon their comfortable lives in the west and settle in places like the Philippines. The cynics will say the easy availability of pussy is sufficient motivation but there has to be more to life than that (did I really say that. I think I'll go lie down in a darkened room! ). Like you I want a simple, uncomplicated lifestyle and am willing to put up with some hardship and forgo lifes luxuries to get it. Also having a vagabond nature, I get jaded if I'm stuck in one place too long. Guess I've got a bit of the Chris McCandless in me but I definately don't want to end up like him!
Anyway I hope you find the life you are looking for.
[QUOTE=Amavida] You can buy a model with XP on already, god knows why you want to though.. There is a model of HP simmillar to the eePC with Vista on it, my god imagine how slow it must be.. Cheers GH[/QUOTE]
Ingat!
AV[/QUOTE]Cheers Amavida. Wish I'd had your advice yesterday when I installed a lite version of XP. Got it working OK but it has slowed the machine quite appreciably. I just could'nt get along with this Linux Xandros with it assumption that you were familiar with gobbledegook computer codes and peculiar software installation methods (from suppositories or something). Them eee's are tidy little fuckers though. I am quite inordinately pleased with it. It is literally pocket size and provided your not trying to do any advanced graphics on it, can cope with most applications. And at the price they are nearly giving them away.
Christ your pilot mate must have had a ball if he blew a pilots retirement gratuities in a couple of years. No wonder he is now depressed but I bet he has many wonderful deposits in his memory banks.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher] The cynics will say the easy availability of pussy is sufficient motivation but there has to be more to life than that (did I really say that. I think I'll go lie down in a darkened room! ). Ingat!
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Gamahucher
Is there another reason....:D Suggest while in the dark room you use an ice cold towel as this may make wake you up from an obvious dream (nightmare by the sound of it..)
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[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Gamahucher
Is there another reason....:D Suggest while in the dark room you use an ice cold towel as this may make wake you up from an obvious dream (nightmare by the sound of it..)[/QUOTE]Hahaha - will take your advice WR and maybe take a little poontang in there as well to wipe my fevered brow :D
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Yeah I was part in jest,
Anyway I hope you find the life you are looking for.
The cynics will say the easy availability of pussy is sufficient motivation but there has to be more to life than that
.[/QUOTE]Haha yeah and I was playing on the word facetious its hard to be subtle in the Philippines or the forums I guess. (smiles)
There is more to life than pussy! I come to the Philippines because there is some pussy compared to none so that is a strong motivator but the adventure, the easy life style and the simple life call. I can do my work anywhere but I prefer the soft warm breezes blowing in from the ocean oh damn its the pussy by a long shot. I just love asian women and their attributes. Yeah its the pussy I am a sick man!
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What a coincidence, went to Vagabond bar last night in NishiShinjuku. You walk up the stairs under the piano. Varied artwork on the walls indicate an absolutely bacchanal lifestyle of the owner....who has unfortunately died.
Yes, Gamahucher....lie down in a dark room....for as long as you like.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]The cynics will say the easy availability of pussy is sufficient motivation but there has to be more to life than that (did I really say that. I think I'll go lie down in a darkened room! ). Like you I want a simple, uncomplicated lifestyle and am willing to put up with some hardship and forgo lifes luxuries to get it. Also having a vagabond nature, I get jaded if I'm stuck in one place too long. .[/QUOTE]
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You Can't Go Home Again...
I don't know if any of the rest of you have experienced this, but I find that having chosen this lifestyle, and having lived outside of the US for years, you really cannot go home again and fit in. For one thing, the only women available to you are (gasp!) your own age! For another, your old friends or even new friends are basically clueless about how you have lived your life and know nothing except their own rather narrow slice of regimented reality. To over simplify, you've changed but they basically haven't and there's no common ground on which you can meet any longer.
GE
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Take me to the Ritz
I've met an attractive girl online and suggested a romantic getaway vacation, but she says:
yah sure i can be your tour guide here..maybe you can stay at the fancy hotel like parklane hotel, waterfront hotel, marriot hotel and shangrila hotel,...maybe when we get vacations can my friends come with us????...im so excited to see you!!..take care always.
I'm not inclined to stay in these expensive hotels or drag along her friends while I'm trying to romance her.
How would you handle a situation like this?
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[QUOTE=X Man]What a coincidence, went to Vagabond bar last night in NishiShinjuku. You walk up the stairs under the piano. Varied artwork on the walls indicate an absolutely bacchanal lifestyle of the owner....who has unfortunately died.
Yes, Gamahucher....lie down in a dark room....for as long as you like.
X[/QUOTE]WTF
Cryptic ..tick
Impenetable,,tick
Recondite ..tick
Incomprehensible ..tick
Oh I get it - your a froggy or a superannuated hippy. Keep taking the pills, it gets better with time!
GH
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I don't know if any of the rest of you have experienced this, but I find that having chosen this lifestyle, and having lived outside of the US for years, you really cannot go home again and fit in. For one thing, the only women available to you are (gasp!) your own age! For another, your old friends or even new friends are basically clueless about how you have lived your life and know nothing except their own rather narrow slice of regimented reality. To over simplify, you've changed but they basically haven't and there's no common ground on which you can meet any longer. GE[/QUOTE]My period in RP was a mere five months, much less than the five years you’ve had, but even in that short period I experienced a fair amount of Philippine enculturation. I spoke only enough Filipino to get by in everyday interactions, and I worked with people who spoke Filipino among themselves but could easily switch to English to communicate with me. Still, I found myself adjusting and getting with the rhythm of the culture around me in ways I was almost unaware of until I returned to the U.S. I think I actually found the transition back into my own culture more difficult than the initial move to the Philippine setting, and eleven months later I am still not “back” in my own culture. Unlike for GE, however, who reports a sense that he can’t go back, my circumstances – having to try to be back – have led me to invest considerable time reflecting on the transition, the cultural differences, and the general lack of awareness of anything outside the U.S. for most people around me, including many with a great deal of formal education.
Post Philippine Depression (PPD) is frequently tossed about as a common ailment among the participants in forums like this, and although I still experience a longing for petite, brown young women as sex partners, I think that is not the same as what GE describes, nor is it the main point of my experiences. What is at the center of the cultural conflict I experience has to do with the pace of life and the American preoccupation in what I will call “instrumentality.” That is, it’s the “hurry, hurry” mentality and the expectation that we ought always to be creating change around us (always referred to as “progress,” even when in some regards the changes may be a step backward) – and being able to prove that it was in fact our actions that caused the change.
We often forget that the same internet that makes this forum possible and makes us capable of outsourcing our accounting or executive powerpoint presentations to be done overnight in India while we sleep, also permits our bosses to control and direct hundreds of their subordinates in a single email. Amazingly, we all rave over the benefits of lightning fast communications that allow us to post longwinded editorials like this one, while simultaneously we overlook how the same technology holds us captive to others’ wishes, penis enhancement advertisements, Nigerian get-rich quick schemes, and so on.
One refreshing difference about the Philippines is all rolled up in the merienda mentality: not only are they not particularly in a hurry (except in Manila traffic, where the cultural resistance to “falling in line” causes everybody to prevent themselves and all others from getting anywhere fast other than into traffic jams), they don’t take themselves or anybody else too seriously. (Although even that is paradoxical, when you consider the communist rebels in some parts of Luzon or Moro liberation fighters in Mindanao.) Unfortunately, I find, most Americans with whom I interact on a daily basis are largely unaware of their entrapment in what GE has called a “narrow slice of regimented reality.” I think there are some peculiarly American explanations for our narrowly regimented reality, but won’t describe them because I’ve already carried on too long with this.
I do think there are several juicy ironies in the dynamic GE has presented. One is that the world’s economic system, and especially its disparate distribution of benefits, is a large component of what creates both the advantageous buying power and the attractiveness to Filipinas of men our age, while it simultaneously is both a cause and a resultant of the laid back merienda mentality that I, and presumably others, find attractive in the Philippines' culture. So please be careful next time you find yourself complaining about Filipinos’ complacency and seeming lack of ambition, empowerment, and instrumentality: These are precisely the ingredients that make your earnings go so far in the Philippines and that constitute the laid back lifestyle that allows you to grow old comfortably and lustfully.
Feedback and rebuttals welcome. Skip
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They Will Never Understand
[quote=goodenough]i don't know if any of the rest of you have experienced this, but i find that having chosen this lifestyle, and having lived outside of the us for years, you really cannot go home again and fit in. for one thing, the only women available to you are (gasp!) your own age! for another, your old friends or even new friends are basically clueless about how you have lived your life and know nothing except their own rather narrow slice of regimented reality. to over simplify, you've changed but they basically haven't and there's no common ground on which you can meet any longer.
ge[/quote]
i have been overseas the last 4 years. i am bored as hell when i am in the states. as for women in the states they come because of the money i display but i am just not interested. back in 06 a caucasian lady at a dennys in cali paid for my breakfast she was a waiter there. now there is a college educated young black lady with a great career interested in why i being black only date asians born and raised in asia. she heard all about my globe trotting exploits through the grapevine and is now interested to meet me on my impending return to the states. only thing on my mind is my up coming trip to cebu. family and friends will never understand.
beware of dog
(the dog in you that wants to attack weaker dogs and screw all female dogs) :)
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[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]Haha yeah and I was playing on the word facetious its hard to be subtle in the Philippines or the forums I guess. (smiles)
.... Yeah its the pussy I am a sick man![/QUOTE]Well, since the pinays are so accepting of older white men, maybe I can convince my espousa to retire there with me! Maybe the best of both worlds!
LOL
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Cheers Amavida. Wish I'd had your advice yesterday when I installed a lite version of XP. Got it working OK but it has slowed the machine quite appreciably. I just could'nt get along with this Linux Xandros with it assumption that you were familiar with gobbledegook computer codes and peculiar software installation methods (from suppositories or something). Them eee's are tidy little fuckers though. I am quite inordinately pleased with it. It is literally pocket size and provided your not trying to do any advanced graphics on it, can cope with most applications. And at the price they are nearly giving them away.[/QUOTE]Hey GH!
Xandros [a Linux distribution with a very Windows like GUI] as far as I know has a simple GUI software installer. I dunno why you needed to use the command line..?
The ONLY program I cant get for Linux is Yahoo Messenger (an Instant Message client). Since all my family & 'friends' here in Phils rely exclusively on YM I cant use Linux soooo... Mac's it is. If you need some help with Linux software package management give me a holler. Maybe I could help?
BTW my wife & I use iChat on the Mac's to video conference. It runs over the AIM network (AOL Instant Messenger). Until you have seen it you Windoze guys don't know what you have been missing.. superb software.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Christ your pilot mate must have had a ball if he blew a pilots retirement gratuities in a couple of years. No wonder he is now depressed but I bet he has many wonderful deposits in his memory banks.[/QUOTE] Oh man you have NO idea! This guy partied like a rock star! I think there must be buildings with his name on in Cavite where he lived. :)
Cheers!
AV
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I don't know if any of the rest of you have experienced this, but I find that having chosen this lifestyle, and having lived outside of the US for years, you really cannot go home again and fit in. For one thing, the only women available to you are (gasp!) your own age! For another, your old friends or even new friends are basically clueless about how you have lived your life and know nothing except their own rather narrow slice of regimented reality. To over simplify, you've changed but they basically haven't and there's no common ground on which you can meet any longer.
GE[/QUOTE]
Its very true what you say GE.
They say 'travel broadens the mind'. A lot my family & friends seem very narrow minded to me these day's. My 'stay at home' family & friends just can't understand me & I no longer feel the need to explain to them.
I think it comes down to personality types. If you have an adventurous & adaptable personality it makes a difference how you see things.
Returning home to live? Oh my god! I'd hate the thought of having to go back to living in Australia. Too many rules! FWC's with bad attitudes! high prices!.. Yuck!
AV
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[QUOTE=LaserNut]I've met an attractive girl online and suggested a romantic getaway vacation, but she says:
"yah sure i can be your tour guide here..maybe you can stay at the fancy hotel like parklane hotel, waterfront hotel, marriot hotel and shangrila hotel,...maybe when we get vacations can my friends come with us????...im so excited to see you!!..take care always."
I'm not inclined to stay in these expensive hotels or drag along her friends while I'm trying to romance her.
How would you handle a situation like this?[/QUOTE]
Hey Laser!
Firstly if you have never met her you can't really go making plans like this but you can leave the door open. She may turn out to be great!
Philippinas have exuberant vivacious personalities. Even the poorest will come out with outrageous requests initially. Its all part of their nature & their perception of Foreigner = Disneyland. Dont be offeneded by it at first. Make it fun & yuk it up with them. They love to laugh!
Keep in mind that you are in a position of strength. You are the man, you make the rules. There are few of you & many of her. Its a buyers market. If the thought of taking her off to a resort & shagging yourselves legless appeals think about what you can afford/like & then tell her your plan. Most pinay's you deal with on line are from humble circumstances (internet cafes FULL of chicks abound) so anything is a big treat to them & you should see that in her reaction to your suggestion.
If not make a counter proposal of what you would like/afford to do. Remember its second nature to haggle here. A little to & fro discussion about this would be normal but ultimately she will probably agree to whatever you propose.
If she baulks at a cheaper proposal then it may mean she is either from the upper class & expects to you to part from a lot of money for her entertainment or she is high mileage unit looking for big spenders.
I'll give you an example, a BG GF from Makati asks me to take her to Boracy for her Birthday together with her BG cousin for a week. I tell them no but I'll take you both to Subic for a shag^^^ err vacation, for a couple of days. Result : ecstatically happy girls. (Must remember to stock up on Cialis)
Hope my humble opinion helps
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Hey GH!
Xandros [a Linux distribution with a very Windows like GUI] as far as I know has a simple GUI software installer. I dunno why you needed to use the command line..?
Cheers!
AV[/QUOTE]Hey back AV, Why do technical bods such as you obviously are, think us non tecky bozos have a fucking clue when you talk about GUI's and the like? I took one look at the Xandros procedure for software installation which went something like.
"It's all done through a software interface, called Synaptic, that downloads and installs directly from online databases of programs called Repositories. You don't find, download or open installation files yourself, blah, blah"
And had to use that darkened room again. So its back to the good old, slow workhorse that you rightly call windoze. XP for me like that old bargirl who you know has seen much better days, is a bit raddled and physically suspect, but you know where you are with her and she give relatively good service. Better the devil you know.
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[QUOTE=Skip Kost] I still experience a longing for petite, brown young women as sex partners, I think that is not the same as what GE describes, nor is it the main point of my experiences. What is at the center of the cultural conflict I experience has to do with the pace of life and the American preoccupation in what I will call “instrumentality.” That is, it’s the “hurry, hurry” mentality and the expectation that we ought always to be creating change around us (always referred to as “progress,” even when in some regards the changes may be a step backward) – and being able to prove that it was in fact our actions that caused the change.
Skip[/QUOTE]
Hi Skip!
Great Post!
Im making a list here :
- Access to practically limitless resource of attractive sex partners.
- Slower Pace of life.
- Low living costs.
- Little regulation & rules.
anything else we can torture our non expat friends with?
:)
AV
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Additional....??
[QUOTE=Amavida]Hi Skip!
Great Post!
Im making a list here :
- Access to practically limitless resource of attractive sex partners.
- Slower Pace of life.
- Low living costs.
- Little regulation & rules.
anything else we can torture our non expat friends with?
:)
AV[/QUOTE]
Yep, lets add :
Abundant, Effective and Inexpensive Public Transport (including Taxis ;) )
Good Weather (Warm Rain etc...????)
Cheers, F/Fifty
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[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Yep, lets add :
Abundant, Effective and Inexpensive Public Transport (including Taxis ;) )
Good Weather (Warm Rain etc...????)
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
FF
Just stick to abundance of young shaved willing sex partners...weather, warm rain who cares...they like older fat guys am happy :D
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What Is Wrong with FWC's with Bad Attitudes?
[QUOTE=Amavida] FWC's with bad attitudes! [/QUOTE]Hi AV,
Hey man, nothing wrong with FWCS with attitudinal problems. I see them regularly and it makes me very much appreciative of those lovely, slim Filipinas. I would like to remind you, in a most respectful way, that the FWCS aka as BIG BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (BBW) (ROTFLMFAO) reinforces my motivation to go to P. I. If the western countries had women like those wonderful, slender, attractive Filipinas, would you leave home?
In order that you don't get homesick, I have taken the liberty to post some photos for your perusal. Please PM me when the check is in the mail. LOL.
Ingat palagi, Wazza.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Hi Skip!
Great Post!
Im making a list here :
- Access to practically limitless resource of attractive sex partners.
- Slower Pace of life.
- Low living costs.
- Little regulation & rules.
anything else we can torture our non expat friends with?
:)
AV[/QUOTE]I'd pretty much agree with FF and these other guys, although my personal taste goes to unshaven or limitedly shaven. So perhaps there's an irony in that it's necessary to spend a bunch of years in a fast-paced society grabbing up opportunities and money ahead of other guys in order then to qualify for this wonderful set of circumstances in RP. The Jihadist thing, so we hear in the popular press, is supposed to lead the suicide bomber into heaven to be greeted there by 40 or some similar number of virgins. Entering RP, on the other hand, is real, and whether or not these women are virgins is a non-issue. (And for some of us the question of pubic hair is a non-issue.) So this beats the Jihadist dying thing all to hell -- no pun intended. It's more like doing time in the dog-eat-dog rat race is akin to purgatory, and landing in RP is heaven on earth.
And so on the surface it appears that Muslim men have it all wrong, since some of those 9/11 planners actually spent time in RP, and some reports say that Muhammed Atta, one of the pilots, actually took flying lessons at Clark. Boy did they get this heaven and hell thing screwed up.
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I'm sure that meant something when you wrote it.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]WTF
Cryptic ..tick
Impenetable,,tick
Recondite ..tick
Incomprehensible ..tick
Oh I get it - your a froggy or a superannuated hippy. Keep taking the pills, it gets better with time!
GH[/QUOTE]
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So, where do we go?
When I was 25 (a long time ago) and one of the boys from the neighborhood asked how many gals you've fkd....I thought about my military expereinces in Europe and Asia...and modeslty calculated 50. They just laughed at me - full of shit.... One of them claimed to have four or five. I stood there, in my modest way, remembering the three I had in one 24 hr period. I've been laughing at them ever since. I wouldn't trade my lifestyle with any of them.
Yes, their narrow lifesltyle....let's talk endlessly about the local football, baseball team.
X
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I don't know if any of the rest of you have experienced this, but I find that having chosen this lifestyle, and having lived outside of the US for years, you really cannot go home again and fit in. For one thing, the only women available to you are (gasp!) your own age! For another, your old friends or even new friends are basically clueless about how you have lived your life and know nothing except their own rather narrow slice of regimented reality. To over simplify, you've changed but they basically haven't and there's no common ground on which you can meet any longer.
GE[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Wazza88]Hi AV,
Hey man, nothing wrong with FWCS with attitudinal problems. I see them regularly and it makes me very much appreciative of those lovely, slim Filipinas. I would like to remind you, in a most respectful way, that the FWCS aka as BIG BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (BBW) (ROTFLMFAO) reinforces my motivation to go to P. I. If the western countries had women like those wonderful, slender, attractive Filipinas, would you leave home?
In order that you don't get homesick, I have taken the liberty to post some photos for your perusal. Please PM me when the check is in the mail. LOL.
Ingat palagi, Wazza.[/QUOTE]
ROTFLMFAO Wazza! :)
BTW Im sending you a bill for a new keyboard (I just spewed on mine)
C'Ya!
AV
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A Little Warning, Please
[QUOTE=Wazza88]Hi AV,
Hey man, nothing wrong with FWCS with attitudinal problems. I see them regularly and it makes me very much appreciative of those lovely, slim Filipinas. I would like to remind you, in a most respectful way, that the FWCS aka as BIG BEAUTIFUL WOMEN (BBW) (ROTFLMFAO) reinforces my motivation to go to P. I. If the western countries had women like those wonderful, slender, attractive Filipinas, would you leave home?
Ingat palagi, Wazza.[/QUOTE]
A little warning next time, almost blew my breakfast on the keyboard.
Slim
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[QUOTE=Amavida]
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Are you expecting to get sued or something?
Chuckle.
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Reading between the Lines
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]FF
weather, warm rain who cares...[/QUOTE]
Ah well, imagination is the key - Warm Rain + Nice Girls could amount to Wet Tshirts in the odd twisted mind that passes through here !!!
Added to our liking for the odd Big Racked Exhibitionist we have both recently had the pleasure of and the thought of having some Warm Rain whilst out and about with one of them becomes interesting.
Anyway IMHO the weather is good :)
Cheers, F/Fifty
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Whats with the footer A?
Are you expecting to get sued or something?
Chuckle.[/QUOTE]One guy kept sending me long angst riddance PM's about his perceived deep offense at something i posted allegedly about him. I got so sick of it I started adding disclaimers to every post to shut him up hehehe :)
Maybe I'll give it a rest now.
AV
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For the record, I've sent AV only one PM and it wasn't anything like he described. So, I assume he isn't referring to me. But it is interesting to hear AV admit that someone besides myself has been troubled by his style of posting.
BTW, AV, are you the one who suggested tricking a woman into giving you her password so that you could secretly read her email?
I don't recommend anyone really do this but I'd love to hear more details from the original poster.
X
[QUOTE=Amavida]One guy kept sending me long angst riddance PM's about his perceived deep offense at something i posted allegedly about him. I got so sick of it I started adding disclaimers to every post to shut him up hehehe :)
Maybe I'll give it a rest now.
AV[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man]For the record, I've sent AV only one PM and it wasn't anything like he described. So, I assume he isn't referring to me. But it is interesting to hear AV admit that someone besides myself has been troubled by his style of posting[/QUOTE]Occasionally somebody gets their knickers in a knot over a contrary view to their own. Thought I'd try a disclaimer as a tongue in cheek way of coping with wounded ego's. I don't care if you don't like my "style of posting". :D [QUOTE=X Man]BTW, AV, are you the one who suggested tricking a woman into giving you her password so that you could secretly read her email? I don't recommend anyone really do this but I'd love to hear more details from the original poster. X[/QUOTE] You must be a big fan of my "style of posting" if you are reading my posts so far back in time to recall this. What I said was "these girls are so unsophisticated that if you ask a girl for her email account password she will often give it". Not the same thing at all is it X?
Thanks for the blatant troll, I needed a laugh.
AV
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Patience is a virtue
Ok feeding time for the trolls is over now...
I have a nice filippina in Singapore who is my 'stopover girl'. When I first started seeing her Miss E was extremely conservative & a bit of a starfish in bed although she frequently sent me long XXX rated txt messages about what she wanted to do with me.
I tried to nudge things up a notch but she always went shy on me & things were a little disappointing but not enough to stop me - I never knock back free pussy ;)
I backed off & she has surprised me by becoming more adventurous on her own. Recently she called & asked out of the blue if I liked shaved... after wiping the spilled coffee off my business shirt with my brain screaming OH! YES! I shly agreed this would be 'nice'. She has come up with all sorts of naughty things to try which Im sure Wicked Roger would approve of :D
The last barrier seems to be to get her to allowing pics... god I'm itching to get some pics of the action if I can!
I seem to find time & again that with non P4P pinays, the patience is rewarded with all sorts of delights. Unlike their western sisters once they decide to try something they seem to be quite trusting about giving it a go.
What are your experiences guys?
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]One guy kept sending me long angst riddance PM's about his perceived deep offense at something i posted allegedly about him. I got so sick of it I started adding disclaimers to every post to shut him up hehehe :)AV[/QUOTE]So do you think the disclaimers actually shut him up? Hehehe. :) Skip
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Does She Measure Up?
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]So do you think the disclaimers actually shut him up? Hehehe. :) Skip[/QUOTE]Oh no. Thats not going to kick off again. X. These days you only seem to pop up when someone or something rattles your cage; kind of a like a Pavlovian reaction. Amavida posts, you start growling etc etc ad nauseum. Its seems like D'Etat hit the mark when he questioned your maturity.
On a completely different topic I was idly thinking recently of the many unintentionally amusing traits that Filipina's have. One of my favourites, which always starts me off, is the measuring thing. Now I'm not going to start boasting that I am particularly well endowed yet the way some girls react you would think I was the reincarnation of John Holmes. 'Oooh, malaking titi mo' they would exclaim (whether in delight or horror depends on the girl) and then they do the measuring trick. This is not an isolated case, it has happened many times with different girls. They then proceed to measure your tool between thumb and forefinger (unless they have a tape measure in their bag, don't laugh it happened once) and then lay their measurement against their belly to gauge how far up them you are going to penetrate. If it reaches their belly button they are in trouble (only jesting). If I had a peso for the number of times this has happened I would be able to afford to stand you a beer in LA Cafe. Anyone else noticed this thing which has only happened to me with Filipinas. I love it. Anyone else have any favourite amusing traits of our Pinay lovelies?
Wish I had a photo to illustrate the measuring thing. This is the nearest I could find. I have blacked out the offending item as I don't want X getting an inferiority complex (only kidding mate. Lighten up)
GH
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Okay, so you didn't really do this? Were you advising other people to do this? Ask an "unsophisticated" woman her password (just in conversation I assume) but the real intent is to secretly read her email?
Instead of calling me names, try to answer the questions.
X
[QUOTE=Amavida]Occasionally somebody gets their knickers in a knot over a contrary view to their own. Thought I'd try a disclaimer as a tongue in cheek way of coping with wounded ego's. I don't care if you don't like my "style of posting". :D You must be a big fan of my "style of posting" if you are reading my posts so far back in time to recall this. What I said was "these girls are so unsophisticated that if you ask a girl for her email account password she will often give it". Not the same thing at all is it X?
Thanks for the blatant troll, I needed a laugh.
AV[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Anyone else noticed this thing which has only happened to me with Filipinas. I love it. Anyone else have any favourite amusing traits of our Pinay lovelies? GH[/QUOTE]Yeah GH they do it in such a cute light hearted way, gotta smile about it, although I've never had a tape measure pulled on me.. hehehehe :) the mental image of this is hilarious mate!
They're always on about noses also.."ooh you have big nose, i wish i have your nose" Im always think ooohh yeah your gonna get it real soon.. hehehe :)
Okay Im naughty, Cya!
AV
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Well, I guess GH has been reviewing some of my pictures in the Photo forum. Most guys here pay attention to the girl, so I'm kind of surprised to hear GH has been checking out my crank size.
Maybe I should buy one of those enlarging machines.
X
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Wish I had a photo to illustrate the measuring thing. This is the nearest I could find. I have blacked out the offending item as I don't want X getting an inferiority complex (only kidding mate. Lighten up)
GH[/QUOTE]
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Jason, you make a good point, but please don't call names. I've had a few lapses myself, but I think it's best to focus on what is written rather than the person.
Some of AV's posts lack logic or accuracy, others are contradictory. When I point this out, there doesn't seem to be any fair debate of the points i make. I think that is obvious to most readers.
Someone sent me a PM a while back and told me to stop wasting my time with AV. I tried, but when I see something that doesn't jive with what I know, then I feel compelled to question or disagree that point.
Recently 50/50 made a post about Jools that didn't make sense to me. After my challenge I learned that Jools had changed it's format -- so I learned something new. Maybe one of these days, we'll learn something from AV.
X
[QUOTE=Jasonkramer]How ironic, heh? If someone disagree with you, you get all bent out of shape. A little hippocritical, don't you think? Instead of blaming others if they find your postings offensive and condescending, maybe you should look at yourself and ask yourself why you behave like a little baby? Insecurity issues? Mommy didn't give you a cookie today?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Now I'm not going to start boasting that I am particularly well endowed yet the way some girls react you would think I was the reincarnation of John Holmes. 'Oooh, malaking titi mo' they would exclaim (whether in delight or horror depends on the girl) and then they do the measuring trick. This is not an isolated case, it has happened many times with different girls. They then proceed to measure your tool between thumb and forefinger (unless they have a tape measure in their bag, don't laugh it happened once) and then lay their measurement against their belly to gauge how far up them you are going to penetrate. If it reaches their belly button they are in trouble (only jesting). If I had a peso for the number of times this has happened I would be able to afford to stand you a beer in LA Cafe. Anyone else noticed this thing which has only happened to me with Filipinas. I love it. Anyone else have any favourite amusing traits of our Pinay lovelies?
Wish I had a photo to illustrate the measuring thing. This is the nearest I could find. I have blacked out the offending item as I don't want X getting an inferiority complex (only kidding mate. Lighten up) GH[/QUOTE]What a great way to change the topic, GH. Problem is, how do we know the equipment in these photos actually belongs to you, or that you're not retouching the photos? For that matter, there's a trick anglers use in which they have their fish on a stringer and extend the fish way out toward the camera. This gets the fish much closer to the camera, and when seen in perspective against their bodies, which are much further away, the fish look gigantic. I'd make a point of checking whether you do this in future photos, except that would mean I'd really gone weird about what in the photo is really important. Just kidding. :)
Okay, so in this latest photo with what you claim to have blacked out as part of your body, maybe the Pinay's fingers being spread out this way has nothing to do with measuring. I'd sooner believe maybe she thinks she's looking at an eel, and it's squirming all around to avoid capture, so her fingers are spread out to increase the contact area for grabbing the eel's head. Now you've got to admit, watching a Pinay try to grab an eel by the head is a hell of a lot funnier than having her try to measure some guy's genitalia.
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Handbags, Ladies, handbags ??
[QUOTE=X Man]......... I tried, but when I see something that doesn't jive with what I know, then I feel compelled to question or disagree that point.
Recently 50/50 made a post about Jools that didn't make sense to me. After my challenge I learned that Jools had changed it's format -- so I learned something new. Maybe one of these days, we'll learn something from AV.
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The important word in your statement is ''know''
As I see it the Root of the Problem, if there is one, Mr X, is that you often appear to challenge a members post before you actually know the true facts.
As in my case you repeatedly challenged my Report/Info on Joules Bar, based upon your last visit 6 yrs ago, compared with my most recent first hand information, then you back-peddle when proven wrong.
If you don't really know then don't say.
It's a Forum, read the reports, digest the info, take it or leave it, plain and simple. (You could learn that from AV)
So now can we stop the Handbag Swinging and get on with being informative and positive here please.
Cheers, F/Fifty
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X-mans problem
[QUOTE=X Man]Well, I guess GH has been reviewing some of my pictures in the Photo forum. Most guys here pay attention to the girl, so I'm kind of surprised to hear GH has been checking out my crank size.
Maybe I should buy one of those enlarging machines.
X[/QUOTE]What photo's in the PF?
Yeah I see what you mean (check out [url]http://www.allabout-penis-enlargement.com/[/url])
But suggest it would be better if you looked up [url]http://www.sosuave.com/halloffame/hall193.htm[/url]
GH:D
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fifty, i don't remember the exchange the same way you do. is this just an oversight, or are you deliberately distorting the facts? or am i mistaken?
this was your quote: "rleatively speeaking, the 500 pesos she has asked for, is less than a lady drink in joules on burgos - now that bar is a scam !!"
you didn't give any other info -- no field report, so i had no way of knowing the bar format changed, nor did i know at what time you had been there, or even if you had been there. twice you've criticized me for giving a six year old report, but there had been isg posts on jools that were far more recent -- i recall none that gave the info you did. and i do appreciate getting that info.
my first post was simply about vocabulary -- (scam / rip off). later i explained my memories of jools at which point you gave me more details. i based my comments on what i knew (key word) and i clearly mentioned it was a six-yr old report. i don't think you can say i "repeatedly" challenged your report ....especially since the first post could hardly be called a report. come to think of it i gave my "outdated" report before you had explained anything -- certainly before you mentioned that you had been there recently. sorry, i'm not a mind reader.
what do you mean back peddle? i gave an ancedote about a real experience i had. i appreciate you informing me about the changes, but it was simply an exchange of information. maybe you and av should give more real reports instead of getting all indignant when someone has different experiences and opinions than yourself.
you're quick to criticize me, yet there you are complimenting av for his visa post which must have taken 10 seconds to cut and paste out of the philippinges govt web site.
i've tried to take your earlier advice and be less confrontational, swing my handbag less, and look how much good it's done. av, who has consistently failed to back up his assertions with field reports, or even ancedotes, is now taking anonymous snipes at me every chance he gets. congratulations on giving him some cajones. (last paragraph was meant to me humorous rather than insulting to anyone.)
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[quote=fifty fifty]the important word in your statement is ''know''
as i see it the root of the problem, if there is one, mr x, is that you often appear to challenge a members post before you actually know the true facts.
as in my case you repeatedly challenged my report/info on joules bar, based upon your last visit 6 yrs ago, compared with my most recent first hand information, then you back-peddle when proven wrong.
if you don't really know then don't say.
it's a forum, read the reports, digest the info, take it or leave it, plain and simple. (you could learn that from av)
so now can we stop the handbag swinging and get on with being informative and positive here please.
cheers, f/fifty[/quote]
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Read it and Weep
[quote=x man]fifty, i don't remember the exchange the same way you do. is this just an oversight, or are you deliberately distorting the facts? or am i mistaken?
this was your quote: "rleatively speeaking, the 500 pesos she has asked for, is less than a lady drink in joules on burgos - now that bar is a scam !!"
you didn't give any other info -- no field report, so i had no way of knowing the bar format changed, nor did i know at what time you had been there, or even if you had been there. twice you've criticized me for giving a six year old report, but there had been isg posts on jools that were far more recent -- i recall none that gave the info you did. and i do appreciate getting that info.
my first post was simply about vocabulary -- (scam / rip off). later i explained my memories of jools at which point you gave me more details. i based my comments on what i knew (key word) and i clearly mentioned it was a six-yr old report. i don't think you can say i "repeatedly" challenged your report ....especially since the first post could hardly be called a report. come to think of it i gave my "outdated" report before you had explained anything -- certainly before you mentioned that you had been there recently. sorry, i'm not a mind reader.[/quote]
from my makati 2 report posted 2nd week of march 2008!!!
we went further up the street as far as joules/davino bar which was described as an exclusive gentleman’s club. it is certainly the best looking place, superbly fitted out, nice music with an excellent standard of girls. actually it is a total rip off with beers at php 250 and ladydrinks at 750 for a single baileys !!! there are no barfines possible either, but the girls are very keen to pass fone numbers and do sneak-outs on the side, basically cos there are hardly any customers and those who do go in, like us they find out the price and only stay for one drink. a great place if you want to sit and throw lots of money away, otherwise, give it a miss.
no field report, no info - my arse
[quote=x man]what do you mean back peddle? i gave an ancedote about a real experience i had. i appreciate you informing me about the changes, but it was simply an exchange of information. maybe you and av should give more real reports instead of getting all indignant when someone has different experiences and opinions than yourself.[/quote]
to quote you - sorry if i am mistaken, maybe i am wrong, perhaps it was an oversight etc etc
in my book = peddling backwards
[quote=x man]you're quick to criticize me, yet there you are complimenting av for his visa post which must have taken 10 seconds to cut and paste out of the philippinges govt web site. [/quote]
yes maybe, but at least av's visa info post was informative and i am not the only one to comment upon it having validity here.
wake up and smell the coffee x, we are fed up with the constant picking at av and others that is being practised here.
you are an informative guy, get on with it please.
f/fifty
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Ok feeding time for the trolls is over now...
I backed off & she has surprised me by becoming more adventurous on her own. Recently she called & asked out of the blue if I liked shaved... after wiping the spilled coffee off my business shirt with my brain screaming OH! YES! I shly agreed this would be 'nice'. She has come up with all sorts of naughty things to try which Im sure Wicked Roger would approve of :D
What are your experiences guys?
AV[/QUOTE]
I likely not as patient as you Amavida...excpet for Greek and there my patience always pays off :D Chat, persuasion etc.
Had to devirginise many Filipina backside and most come back for more or take it further for a double penetration/sandwich experince.
Am such a gent (and parient) when Greek is on menu, that they love me more and more.
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I never saw that post, so I apologize for suggesting that you didn't do a field report on Jools. I appreciate you taking the time to argue your point -- it seems much more productive than ignoring / dismissing the points as is common with responses given by AV. (He has a right to his style, and he has already told me he doesn't care what I think)
Of course your ending comment "constant picking...of AV and others" seems off the mark since it is only AV that has come to my attention as a serial misinformer. I guess it could be perceived as picking, but my intent is not to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] anyone off, but to get to the truth....as we have done here!
As for AV's visa post, I did not mean to imply that it wasn't informative. It was informative and it answered the original question. You complimented him and went so far as to suggest he had inside info at PI immigration. This piqued my interest so I searched for Phillipines + visa and found the same info - verbatim - in the top URL in my Google search. Maybe AV is an English proofreader at the Justice Ministry. Which probably means I'll have trouble next time I try to get in country!
There was a lot of other info there so I posted the URL. It really hurt me that no one complimented me. :-)
Once again, sorry for not doing my homework and missing your original Makati / Jools field report.
X
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]FROM MY MAKATI 2 REPORT POSTED 2nd WEEK OF MARCH 2008!!!
We went further up the street as far as Joules/Davino Bar which was described as an Exclusive Gentleman’s Club. It is certainly the best looking place, superbly fitted out, nice music with an excellent standard of girls. Actually it is a total RIP OFF with beers at PHP 250 and ladydrinks at 750 for a single Baileys !!! There are no barfines possible either, but the girls are very keen to pass fone numbers and do sneak-outs on the side, basically cos there are hardly any customers and those who do go in, like us they find out the price and only stay for one drink. A great place if you want to sit and throw lots of money away, otherwise, give it a miss.
No Field Report, No info - MY ARSE
To quote you - Sorry if I am mistaken, maybe i am wrong, perhaps it was an oversight etc etc
In my book = Peddling Backwards
Yes maybe, but at least AV's Visa Info Post was informative and I am not the only one to comment upon it having validity here.
Wake up and smell the coffee X, we are fed up with the constant picking at AV and others that is being practised here.
You are an informative guy, get on with it please.
F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
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ate
I just realized that I posted quite a long message (an apology to 50) that was off topic here at Filipinas thread. Let me do penance by trying to change the topic.
Any contact with Philippines culture and you will come across the word "ate", which I think can be translated as Auntie or older sis, but has a lot of nuances. You'll find similar things elsewhere in Asia, and I assume it's Confucian influence. Hmm, I know there are a lot of Chinese in Philippines (and the rest of SE Asia), but I don't know the history. I'll have to study that a bit.
You may have read posts here at ISG that implied the oldest daughter has to support the parents in their old age and sometimes the younger siblings as they make their way through the education system. That is "ate"...a position of power and respect and heavy responsibility.
In most of East Asia, that responsibility falls on the eldest male. (***see foot note).
In Phil. it falls on the eldest female.
Filipinas will also refer to senior status women as "ate". It is a word of respect...and respecting seniority and class is important in most of Asia.
I don't live in the Philippines and I won't pretend to be an expert...hope someone will pick up the thread from here....
***: enjoy the Philippines now, as there will soon be approx. 30million surplus men in China and other Chinese influenced cultures in SE ASIA, not to mention Korea. Modern tech, old fashioned ingenuity, and one -child policy means that families who favor boys, have boys. I just had dinner with a Malaysian/C guy who was the third sibling....two older sisters. He assured me that he would not have been born if one of his siblings had been a male. BTW, Japan seems to be the only sensible one in this respect. Most have no prediliction for males.
X
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Kuya
[QUOTE=X Man]Any contact with Philippines culture and you will come across the word "ate", which I think can be translated as Auntie or older sis, but has a lot of nuances. You'll find similar things elsewhere in Asia, and I assume it's Confucian influence. Hmm, I know there are a lot of Chinese in Philippines (and the rest of SE Asia), but I don't know the history. I'll have to study that a bit.
X[/QUOTE]Thanks for that X.
Lovers of the Philippine culture (or maybe just lovers of Filipinas) might also like to be aware of the use of the word Kuya as the word will often be applied to them (as in Kuya X Man). It is a term of respect which means older brother in the same way that Ate means older sister and is in frequent use. It is used by younger Filipino's of both sexes to an older and respected relative but is often heard outside the family group when a younger person is addressing you in a respectful and deferential manner.
Don't be alarmed if a Filipino call you Kuya (pronounced Queer), they are not imputing that you are a turd burgler but are been very polite and would be most put out if you punched their lights out
GH
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The Compleat Angler
[QUOTE=Skip Kost]What a great way to change the topic, GH. Problem is, how do we know the equipment in these photos actually belongs to you, or that you're not retouching the photos? For that matter, there's a trick anglers use in which they have their fish on a stringer and extend the fish way out toward the camera. This gets the fish much closer to the camera, and when seen in perspective against their bodies, which are much further away, the fish look gigantic. I'd make a point of checking whether you do this in future photos, except that would mean I'd really gone weird about what in the photo is really important. Just kidding. :)
Okay, so in this latest photo with what you claim to have blacked out as part of your body, maybe the Pinay's fingers being spread out this way has nothing to do with measuring. I'd sooner believe maybe she thinks she's looking at an eel, and it's squirming all around to avoid capture, so her fingers are spread out to increase the contact area for grabbing the eel's head. Now you've got to admit, watching a Pinay try to grab an eel by the head is a hell of a lot funnier than having her try to measure some guy's genitalia.[/QUOTE]HAHAHEHE Bugger me - you must live in an interesting world Slip. Either that or you have been sniffing your typex fluid.
I did say that it was the best photo example of the phenomenom I was describing but not perfect. You can almost see the expression of shock and wonderment on her face as she contemplated the near future certainty that said object would soon be buried to its hilt up her tight little snatch.
As to squirming eels and slippery fish, I think you must definately be a monger - a fishmonger:) Admittedly I do go overboard on the KY sometimes -the girls insist on it you know - erm its a size thing :D
Yours in jest GH
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[QUOTE=X Man] <snip>...As for AV's visa post, I did not mean to imply that it wasn't informative. It was informative and it answered the original question. You complimented him and went so far as to suggest he had inside info at PI immigration. This piqued my interest so I searched for Phillipines + visa and found the same info - verbatim - in the top URL in my Google search. Maybe AV is an English proofreader at the Justice Ministry. Which probably means I'll have trouble next time I try to get in country!
There was a lot of other info there so I posted the URL. It really hurt me that no one complimented me. :-) <snip>
X[/QUOTE]X Man this is refering to a converation in another PI forum.
I ask that you delete it & at least repost in the relevant forum.
Any further flaming or trolling & I get Jackson to start deleting again.
Have a nice day.
AV
* member is now on my ignore list
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Don't be alarmed if a Filipino call you Kuya (pronounced Queer), they are not imputing that you are a turd burgler but are been very polite and would be most put out if you punched their lights out
GH[/QUOTE]
Hi GH, just a small point, Tagalog speakers are actually pronouncing the word kuya as coo'-yah.
Its easy to misunderstand I guess for ears used to different accents.
In everyday taglish you will often hear people address men as 'Boss', 'Kuya' or just add the suffix 'Pa' at the end of a sentence or prepend 'Pare' at the beginiing of a sentence . There is a whole subculture of Taglish slang as well.
Quick reference [url]http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kuya[/url]
Tagalog speakers are pronouncing the word ate as ar'-tay.
In colloquial usage is often shortened to 'Te (Pronouned as 'Tay)
Careful with this, the Tagalog word for shit is Tae.. ;)
The vowels are soft in Tagalog unlike our anglicised hard pronunciation of vowels.
Are your eyes glazed yet?
Lots of info about all the languages of this diverse country here
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_Philippines[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagalog_language[/url]
[url]http://pinoyslang.com/[/url]
Cheers mate
AV
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This is over the top -- we suddenly have a few NEW members who immediately compliment AV or name-call him. If an ISG member is using multiple personalities to increase PI thread antagonism, then he should be ashamed of himself.
[QUOTE=Proudpinoy]After several trip to the PI, I was told about this website by my some fellas I met in Cebu. It's a small world but I met Armavida before. Talk about an ugly foreigner. Loud, obnoxious, and rubs everyone the wrong way. Just ignore him.[/QUOTE]
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Kuya Amavida
[QUOTE=Amavida]Hi GH, just a small point, Tagalog speakers are actually pronouncing the word kuya as coo'-yah.
Its easy to misunderstand I guess for ears used to different accents.[/QUOTE]Tell you what AV, like yourself probably, I get called Kuya a lot (by younger family members) and I can assure you that, to the untrained ear, and in that singular Pinoy accent, it sounds just like queer.
It was quite disconcerting until I became used to it.
GH
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Interesting??
[QUOTE=X Man]This is over the top -- we suddenly have a few NEW members who immediately compliment AV or name-call him. If an ISG member is using multiple personalities to increase PI thread antagonism, then he should be ashamed of himself.[/QUOTE]
Hmmmm, Smoke and Mirrors comes to mind here ;)
Snipe Snipe Snipe, Gripe Gripe Gripe, give it a rest please.
Chees F/Fifty
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Sorry fifty, but that wasn't very helpful.
I don't like to see new faces come on and immediately start name calling or giving personal attacks. I'm not sure what is going on, but it should be discouraged.
X
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Whats The Name Of This Thread?
Looking at the recent topics and posts I forgot :)
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Tell you what AV, like yourself probably, I get called Kuya a lot (by younger family members) and I can assure you that, to the untrained ear, and in that singular Pinoy accent, it sounds just like queer.
It was quite disconcerting until I became used to it.
GH[/QUOTE]
To my ear it sounds like coo ya, always clear to me, in some parts I only got called by my name it was only the young ones called me kuya. I also got called manong. I haven't been everywhere or heard everything.
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Maybe you are referring to the Jools discussion. Sorry, I am 50% to blame for that. I was trying to make sense of what someone was saying in the "Filipina" thread, and he apparently assumed I had read his post in the "Makati" thread -- a thread I rarely read.
My bad.
X
[QUOTE=D Etat]Looking at the recent topics and posts I forgot :)[/QUOTE]
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I heard a Filipina friend use the expression "kuya" when calling a waiter. I think he was about her age or older. I asked her if I could use the term to call the waiter and she gave an ambigious answer (which probably meant "no").
I think "ate" and "kuya" are used in both Luzon and Visayans. How about Mindanao?
BB, do you remember where you were when you were called manong.
Back to "ate", you hear this a lot in the bars, sometimes to Mamasan, but also to other girls. Is it purely an age thing or does seniority at the place of employment also create the senior / junior status and the accompanying use of honorifics?
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[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]To my ear it sounds like coo ya, always clear to me, in some parts I only got called by my name it was only the young ones called me kuya. I also got called manong. I haven't been everywhere or heard everything.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I also got called manong.[/QUOTE]I asked my wife what's 'manong' she told me its a visaya word same as kuya. I've studied Tagalog so I can converse in the business world. Cebuano has many simillar words but its too hard for my poor brain to learn dialects.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]HAHAHEHE Bugger me - you must live in an interesting world Slip. Either that or you have been sniffing your typex fluid. I did say that it was the best photo example of the phenomenom I was describing but not perfect. You can almost see the expression of shock and wonderment on her face as she contemplated the near future certainty that said object would soon be buried to its hilt up her tight little snatch.
As to squirming eels and slippery fish, I think you must definately be a monger - a fishmonger:) Admittedly I do go overboard on the KY sometimes -the girls insist on it you know - erm its a size thing :D Yours in jest GH[/QUOTE]It was a slip of sorts, but no typex fluid here, just a little red wine. So now let me Skip ahead toward the punchline. Think of the eel thing as sort of a compliment. Remember that the ladies often insist that it's not the size of the ship in the slip, but the motion of the boat on the ocean that matters to them. I figure an eel, squirming the way it does, puts up a hell of a motion. So maybe this little lady is giving you a compliment.
As to fish mongering, as long as the smell is fresh, I have no problem using my nose and mouth to check it out. I'm particularly fond of fresh clam. But it pays to try to do something to mask the scent on the moustache if you're going into polite company after this sort of clam diving. Peanut butter works well, lemon juice a little less well. Somebody in an earlier post told me to just tell people that I've come from a particularly good sushi bar, but Pinoys are not total idiots. After all, they eat fish all the time, and they damn sure can tell the difference in smell between fish and clam. Secondly, they're likely to ask for the name of the sushi bar, and then I'd turn to Elmer Fudd stuttering.
As to K-Y, I've had a number of the ladies not know what it was when I brought it out. They needed to be convinced. We may be talking about a difference of mileage on the chassis.
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[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]To my ear it sounds like coo ya, always clear to me, in some parts I only got called by my name it was only the young ones called me kuya. I also got called manong. I haven't been everywhere or heard everything.[/QUOTE]Manong also means older brother. I'm not positive, but I think it implies a much older, perhaps even eldest brother. Kuya may imply older but not necessarily eldest. Maybe one of our married guys can ask a Filipina wife?? All of these terms, as well as Ate, are used with friends as an expression of closeness. For those of us who are old farts, it's not appropriate for us to refer to younger men or women as kuya, manong, or Ate.
Ate usually means eldest sister, so it's used with somebody who would be the age of a much older sister. For somebody still older, like the age of your parents, tiya (aunt) or tiyo (uncle) is sometimes used.
Pare means buddy or partner. The deposed former President, Joseph Estrada, is known to the "masa" (masses) as Erap. He was given the name by another former actor, his buddy Fernando Po. It's pare backwards.
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[QUOTE=X Man]
BB, do you remember where you were when you were called manong.
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I was in a beach resort in Negros discussing with the waitresses language issues. I find it fun if i know some phrases to flirt with like "dont touch me please" "I want to touch you" "or you're ugly but I like your personality" This is in the Illongo language. I think some waitresses were Visayan and didnt speak Illongo so it seemed everthing was a mix of Cebuano Tagalog and Illongo I know some tagalog words but in the end I found it all too confusing with traveling from place to place.
Their TV shows are mostly in Tagalog so I thought that if I learnt that language it would be useful everywhere. I went into a computer store in Davao City to get some technical help with reading a DVD and spoke to the salesman in the little tagalog I knew he looked at me and shrugged his shoulders and said in English I dont speak tagalog. arrrggghhh !!!
I know some Ilocanos who use the words manong and manang like the Illongo the Illongo people with me all called me by my first name which was unusual in itself as nearly everyone else wherever I went called me sir or kuya. I think, I'm guessing here, that people who felt some sort of friendship with me called me kuya instead of sir.
I knew from my Ilocano people that you could call young women ading but when I tried it in different places like Negros they would look at me and say who is ading? With the variety of different languages in the country they must be confused too?
The Philippines a tropical land of shifting sands.
The basic premise is to show respect to their elders that is why they do it and my opinion is to do what ever the custom is in the area you are in. Unfortunately most of us are older than our companions and the majority of the population so I have no idea of how to address these young'uns with respect.
They do have trouble understanding each other too so take heart.
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BB, thanks for that. Hope you can give us some more Negros reports soon.
I had the same experience when I first visited Olongapo. I'd learn a few things with a few girls in one bar, and in the next bar they'd tell me that it was different than their dialect.
Took a Manila girl to Bohol, and she could communicate with most people, but the boatmen were a different matter. I presume the boatmen had less education -- or maybe they just didn't want to talk to her since they were too busy staring. She had weird swimming style which cause her ass to pop up above the waterline in a rather prominent way...and too shy to wear a bathing suit, she had white shorts over black panties. HA, HA......
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I was in a beach resort in Negros discussing with the waitresses language issues. I find it fun if i know some phrases to flirt with like "dont touch me please" "I want to touch you" "or you're ugly but I like your personality" This is in the Illongo language. I think some waitresses were Visayan and didnt speak Illongo so it seemed everthing was a mix of Cebuano Tagalog and Illongo I know some tagalog words but in the end I found it all too confusing with traveling from place to place.
Their TV shows are mostly in Tagalog so I thought that if I learnt that language it would be useful everywhere. I went into a computer store in Davao City to get some technical help with reading a DVD and spoke to the salesman in the little tagalog I knew he looked at me and shrugged his shoulders and said in English I dont speak tagalog. arrrggghhh !!!
I know some Ilocanos who use the words manong and manang like the Illongo the Illongo people with me all called me by my first name which was unusual in itself as nearly everyone else wherever I went called me sir or kuya. I think, I'm guessing here, that people who felt some sort of friendship with me called me kuya instead of sir.
I knew from my Ilocano people that you could call young women ading but when I tried it in different places like Negros they would look at me and say who is ading? With the variety of different languages in the country they must be confused too?
The Philippines a tropical land of shifting sands.
The basic premise is to show respect to their elders that is why they do it and my opinion is to do what ever the custom is in the area you are in. Unfortunately most of us are older than our companions and the majority of the population so I have no idea of how to address these young'uns with respect.
They do have trouble understanding each other too so take heart.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Ok feeding time for the trolls is over now...
I have a nice filippina in Singapore who is my 'stopover girl'. When I first started seeing her Miss E was extremely conservative & a bit of a starfish in bed although she frequently sent me long XXX rated txt messages about what she wanted to do with me.
I tried to nudge things up a notch but she always went shy on me & things were a little disappointing but not enough to stop me - I never knock back free pussy ;)
I backed off & she has surprised me by becoming more adventurous on her own. Recently she called & asked out of the blue if I liked shaved... after wiping the spilled coffee off my business shirt with my brain screaming OH! YES! I shly agreed this would be 'nice'. She has come up with all sorts of naughty things to try which Im sure Wicked Roger would approve of :D
The last barrier seems to be to get her to allowing pics... god I'm itching to get some pics of the action if I can!
I seem to find time & again that with non P4P pinays, the patience is rewarded with all sorts of delights. Unlike their western sisters once they decide to try something they seem to be quite trusting about giving it a go.
What are your experiences guys?
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I also recently found a Filipina in Sing. Quite conservative but still managed to get her to spend the night the first date. She had her period but eventually volunteered several nice blowjobs. Then she was ashamed of her self for a day or two. But last night she was voluntarily flashing her tits at me on the cam. Now this is not one of those uneducated village girls. She has a college degree and a good job in Sing. Still, she is a Filipina and ready and horny.
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Where are Filipina's the brownest?
Ok you know it. Right next to where they are the pinkest. But the recent post of pictures of a lovely brown Filipina had me wondering which area of the Philippines produces the most dusky beauties.
OK I know that barangay girls who labour in the paddies are obviously going to be browner than city girls but in some areas native blood flows stronger and is less adulterated by Spanish/Mestizo influences. I seem to remember that girls from North Luzon in the Cagayan Valley area fit this category and are much darker skinned than average.
Any ideas for although they hate their dark colour, I am confident in saying that the majority of us western punters (but not Asians mongers) prefer them the duskier the better.
Cheers GH
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PI Can't Be That Fucking Bad
After my first day back home in the US spent the first day cursing around in my rented 08 Lac settled down in front of the pc. Was looking for an old friend on Friendster. While I didn’t find her I did find my ex’s account. To my dismay I saw her new husband for the first time. The guy is a certified troll not the forum type. Was she really that damn desperate to leave the PI? Damn where the hell do I rank compared to this guy? I believe it was AV who wrote about the desperation of Filipinas and how they chat with old the young, fair the dark, the skinny the fat the ugly the handsome. Unbelievable
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So you judge people just by their appearance? That's interesting.
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[QUOTE=D Etat]After my first day back home in the US spent the first day cursing around in my rented 08 Lac settled down in front of the pc. Was looking for an old friend on Friendster. While I didn’t find her I did find my ex’s account. To my dismay I saw her new husband for the first time. The guy is a certified troll not the forum type. Was she really that damn desperate to leave the PI? Damn where the hell do I rank compared to this guy? I believe it was AV who wrote about the desperation of Filipinas and how they chat with old the young, fair the dark, the skinny the fat the ugly the handsome. Unbelievable[/QUOTE]
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I Do And So Do You
[QUOTE=X Man]So you judge people just by their appearance? That's interesting.
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I bet you go to PI and look for the most physically ugly girl you can find you golden heart boy :)
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[quote=d etat]...was looking for an old friend on friendster. while i didn’t find her i did find my ex’s account. to my dismay i saw her new husband for the first time. the guy is a certified troll not the forum type. was she really that damn desperate to leave the pi? damn where the hell do i rank compared to this guy?...[/quote]i know exactly how you feel d etat, the sense of shock & disappointment when you see what an otherwise attractive woman has settled for is hard to put into words.
i think i mentioned recently about taking a peek inside girls email & friendster accounts, wow what a shock!
these women are nothing if not pragmatic! its seen at higher levels of western world though also. every pinay has her own aganda. some are nasty pieces of work who set out to con their way into another country just to get financial benefit alone. but most are motivated by a sense of obligation to their family. (the tagalog phrase 'utang na loob' meaning something like 'debt of gratitude' is often used)
most girls here grow up with family obligations ingrained into them. they are force fed a diet of syrupy romantic soap operas on tv. they dream of having a beautiful handsome young middle class pinoy bf who will marry them & live happily forever. the reality of her life will be a 6 day a week grind of a low paying job (if she can get one) the family is poor & needs her to find a 'supportive' husband.
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[QUOTE=Amavida] Most girls here grow up with family obligations ingrained into them. They are force fed a diet of syrupy romantic soap operas on TV. They dream of having a beautiful handsome young middle class pinoy BF who will marry them & live happily forever. The reality of her life will be a 6 day a week grind of a low paying job (if she can get one) the family is poor & needs her to find a 'supportive' husband.
AV[/QUOTE]Dead on AV. You only have to look at the cloyingly syrupy shit (phrases lke 'Looking for my Prince Charming' 'Undying love'spring to mind) that they pile on in their pp's at DIA. It fair breaks my heart but not before I've upchucked my lunch. If only they knew that their audience comprises a fair percentage of world weary, cynical old farts like us (if you do not fall into this category, my apologies but I'll bet your getting their).
MInd you, like you say, can you blame them living unremittingly dreary lives in a bubblegum culture such as exists in the Philippines. Everyone needs a dream and theirs is to escape their poor lives on the arm of a knight in shining armour from the first world' preferably with a healthy bank balance. Sadly for most of them it aint gonna happen.
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Yap, she's really THAT desperate...
[QUOTE=D Etat]After my first day back home in the US spent the first day cursing around in my rented 08 Lac settled down in front of the pc. Was looking for an old friend on Friendster. While I didn’t find her I did find my ex’s account. To my dismay I saw her new husband for the first time. The guy is a certified troll not the forum type. Was she really that damn desperate to leave the PI? Damn where the hell do I rank compared to this guy? I believe it was AV who wrote about the desperation of Filipinas and how they chat with old the young, fair the dark, the skinny the fat the ugly the handsome. Unbelievable[/QUOTE]D Etat, similar story. One year ago I met a gal from online, claimed 23 y.o. We met in manila and took the whole family out for shopping and dinner (on me). Mama then left her daughter with me for a few days, and she whined for money several times. The second day I checked her ID, she was 20. Very pretty, and I was doing her twice daily for 3 days (killing her, claiming she was SORE). She kept asking for 10K pisos to pay for family debts, so to shut her up I told her OK. Each day would ask me for 5K of the 10. I'm pretty sure that if I'd handed her 5K on any given day she would have bolted. Only said I LOVE YOU during discussion of money (way too obvious).
When I got back to the states we spoke lovingly online for about 2 weeks, then she asked for me to send 5K for her birthday party (that would be my present to her, a nice party for her family). I balked and ended the relationship. Money, money, money. 1 week after that there she was online, picture of herself sitting in a man's lap, wedding dress on and a big smile. He was 55-60, fat troll. The pic had a date stamp from 3 days prior. When I enquired she said that she had gotten married to an american and was quite happy and would be coming to the USA. This 3 weeks after I left her. I was stunned. Not that I liked her whiny butt that much, but 3 weeks? Yap it worked like this: the entire time she was lovey with him online, and possibly also while he was there in Manila with her, she was either boffing me or asking me for funds after I left. I'm sure he has no idea. Who knows how many others she was milking for money, all the while engaged? That pretty little pinay married a fat guy 35 years her senior to get out off the pig farm, why? Because she really was.... THAT desperate. Im guessing that in phils you have to apply a week (or more) ahead of your marriage for a marriage license, like here. So, she was applying for that while still asking me for money (and how many others?). I'm sure her husband had no idea.
As an aside, I've talked online with her since. Apparently getting married in phils has disrupted the normal visa process. Her hubby tells her it will be some time before she gets to come over. Shame.
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[QUOTE=Rgbburn]... That pretty little pinay married a fat guy 35 years her senior to get out off the pig farm, why? Because she really was.... THAT desperate.[/QUOTE]Simple test of a girls honest intentions.
1) Tell her you want to get married in the Phils (Takes YEARS to get a divorce). if she says no, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off, she's likely got no intention of staying married to you.
2) Tell her you want to live there in the Phils with her. If she makes it clear that staying here is not on her agenda, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off.
BTW have you noticed that the happy couples pictured on the dating sites like CB are always a really unattractive (old) man with a pretty young woman? Sends the message loud & clear...
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Visa
"Apparently getting married in phils has disrupted the normal visa process. Her hubby tells her it will be some time before she gets to come over. Shame"
That is a rather funny story. I have known many people from the Philippines. All of them know about the visa process. If you get married in her country, it takes longer to get a visa than the fiance visa. Duh! I am sure that she must know 500 people who could have told her that in her own country. The Phils. is notorious for marriage scams. You have to be extremely careful with them. RTFF. Many guys married a girl from the Phils only to end up supporting 10 to 15 people in a large, extended family. You know that there are rich peole in the Phils. The girls NEVER ask those guys for money. They assume all Americans are rich and CARELESS with their money. Careless is the main thing.
Having said all of that, there are thousands of diamonds in the Phils. as well. Pretty and caring ladies who would do anything to please her man. Hard for the basic gringo to find them while he is in Ermita most of his nights. I work here with some Phil. ladies and they are all very sweet.
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manong
[QUOTE=Amavida]I asked my wife what's 'manong' she told me its a visaya word same as kuya. I've studied Tagalog so I can converse in the business world. Cebuano has many simillar words but its too hard for my poor brain to learn dialects.
AV[/QUOTE]
its also a common word used for "driver" around Manila
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[QUOTE=Member #2718]its also a common word used for "driver" around Manila[/QUOTE]Ah a little light bulb just went off in my head! All the Cebuano speakers Im around are always adding 'man' the end of their sentences. A contraction of manong I assume?
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Too critical?
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Dead on AV. You only have to look at the cloyingly syrupy shit (phrases lke 'Looking for my Prince Charming' 'Undying love'spring to mind) that they pile on in their pp's at DIA. It fair breaks my heart but not before I've upchucked my lunch. If only they knew that their audience comprises a fair percentage of world weary, cynical old farts like us (if you do not fall into this category, my apologies but I'll bet your getting their).
MInd you, like you say, can you blame them living unremittingly dreary lives in a bubblegum culture such as exists in the Philippines. Everyone needs a dream and theirs is to escape their poor lives on the arm of a knight in shining armour from the first world' preferably with a healthy bank balance. Sadly for most of them it aint gonna happen.[/QUOTE]Having dated/flirted/fucked many pinays before my wife I can, of course, say this is true; however...let me bring to mind American ads. They say the same things, although to a lesser extent. Also, can anyone tell me a country where a woman doesnt strive to ''move up''? Its universal. I think many times we're too hard on these girls when in reality they want the same thing every girl wants. Diba?
I would also like to comment on the 'syrupy' comment. Filipinas really ARE different than most of their counterparts, especially in USA. IMHO its not brainwashing by soap operas so much as their trained and ingrained dedication to commitment of marriage. I know my wife still amazes me sometimes with her love and respect for our marriage...and of me. Weve been married 6 years and sometimes its like a first date. I think alot of guys feel this way. Again, just my opinion.
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Phone question
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Off topic I know. But I'm seeking help. I have a phone and if I go to another country and its on roaming. Well if I get a call but can't answer it in time the caller gets a message as in Phils. " subscriber can't be reached " etc.
Well I'm planning a trip but don't want someone to know where I am. How can I handle this. (no not taking the phone is not an option.)
Any techies out there can help. All I can think to do is pretend phone is broken and not take it to said country, tho I realy need it with me.[/QUOTE]G'day FF, We'd love to help but need to request clarification of your question.
- You're a foreigner going TO Phils
- You're an expat going FROM Phils
Which is it?
Your question seems to be how do I avoid the country specific "subscriber can't be reached" message of where you are at the time?
The simple answer is turn your cp _OFF_ when not making/receiving calls.
Even when making/receiving calls its quite likely callers may see your caller ID different to usual & quickly conclude you are not where you say you are.
Low tech solution : Lie, say your normal cp is broken & being repaired (or stolen) for how ever many days is convenient. Turn your cp off & Just go 'off the air'.
You can start your cover story now by complaining a lot every day about your cp not working correctly & mention you may need to put it in for repair... Careful with this, I once did this & a GF bought me a new cp as a 'surprise'. It was very hard to have a 'problem' with my cp after that hehe :)
If you give honey ko different number to use while you're away, you still have the problem of strange subscriber messages on unanswered calls.
Hi tech solution : Buy a 3G cell phone & get a skype account. You can create a skype ID that appears to be a cell phone number (anything you like). Honey ko may be suspicious because caller id may still be a lttle weird but she can't prove it. (Caveat : in some countries, eg China etc, even this will not hide your true location)
Best solution is both the Low tech & Hi tech combined.
AV
* its probably better to post this question in the 'Help & Advice' thread.
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round brown
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Ok you know it. Right next to where they are the pinkest. But the recent post of pictures of a lovely brown Filipina had me wondering which area of the Philippines produces the most dusky beauties.
OK I know that barangay girls who labour in the paddies are obviously going to be browner than city girls but in some areas native blood flows stronger and is less adulterated by Spanish/Mestizo influences. I seem to remember that girls from North Luzon in the Cagayan Valley area fit this category and are much darker skinned than average.
Any ideas for although they hate their dark colour, I am confident in saying that the majority of us western punters (but not Asians mongers) prefer them the duskier the better.
Cheers GH[/QUOTE]
Gamhucher.....I LOVE THAT MONIKER, mainly as a certain disc Jockey in Washington DC (The greasman) used to use that phrase when refering to
picking up girls and screwing them (As in that little honey you're Gamhooching might have a leak in her plumbing) Translation...that girl you're screwing might have the clap...he would talk this way on the air as the FCC
couldn't fine the radio station for indeceny, I'm Kinda curious if you ever heard of the guy in OZ and thats how you got the name???
Anyhow to answer your question:
Being a conoseurre of Brown skinned honeys (I like 'em dark) I've noticed that different regions in the Phils have differing "Pink places" and brown places, probably an ethnic trait, those with Chinese blood have less pink and brown BTW. Withouta doubt Mindano lass' have brown pink places and pinker brown places. Especially near the "Taint" (as in It tain't pussy and it Taint a butt hole) best to examine such area in an afternoon romp or with the light on for verification.
IMHO Thai women have darker Pink places than Filipina, especially the nips.
P.S.
Hairiness seems to be a second hereditary trait in accordance with pinker
pink places.
Geez I better stop babbling
Spamhog
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Never Heard it called that...?
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Withouta doubt Mindano lass' have brown pink places and pinker brown places. Especially near the "Taint" (as in It tain't pussy and it Taint a butt hole) best to examine such area in an afternoon romp or with the light on for verification.[/QUOTE]
Ha ha, nice term, but I have always known the described part as her "Cozif"'
As in " Cos if it wasnt there, her guts would fall out"
Agree with all about the LBFMs, and the lil brownies are some of the best :)
Cheers, F/Fifty
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my so called steady GF in AC
Hello to all,
Im not sure if somebody reads my extreme thrilling report from what have last happen to me in AC and about my so called GF.
I should say that I go AC evry weekend to party and then meet my GF. I told her I love you, but I dont love you evry day :D....
Serious, I dont like to have a steady relation yet, so many gurls here and I know myself not being that faithfull if I dont really love a gurl and until now Im not much in love.
Thats what I thought....WRONG...Last time I havent told my GF that I will come another day to AC, but I was there allready. Happends to me I got a bit stomach sick from the day before and just sleep all day, woke up around midnight and decide to go to some bars. Went back at Orchid Inn around 3 am and Voila, who shows up after some minutes. My Atlantis spotlight dancer GF with her friend and 2 asian guys. They like asian for some special reasons.
Now she walks in, looked up and oh shock, saw me, turning into LOts Wife immedtly..
But that was all, they sit, while I was standing over them (they were full so at that night I had to sleep in those standard rooms in the front desk area)and look like a dumbshit. From what I saw, she immdediatly moved away some inches from the guy..
I txt her and called her and ask her if she stays in the hotel with the guy and she says yes..I have to say we had some quarel before I had to find some excuses not to see her..
Ok, so after that she left with the guy and I was sitting in my room and thinkin WTF...and also why do I worry, it was me who didnt wanted to meet her now..
Now, knowing me as a nice guy, she could have come over to me and I would pay the sucker his barfine back and he could bunr his money with somebody else, cause my GF is pretty but a starfish to those she not attracted, specially her "barfines"..I know that from before..
So, why put this little story in the filipina thread...actually I want to share my experience and happy for some input from you guys..
Should she have come to me after I saw her?? SHould she go back to the bar and gave the guy his barfine back? She did nothing like that, her escuse was the guy allready paid her barfine and thats why she have to went with him, well I can say that I also pay her sometimes her barfine but nothing happn during the night, cause we both were drunk and I wanted to sleep as well she does, but then the next night no sleep at all. What Im telling is, how should she act..
I ask her and she says its my fault we fight before. Any comment on this??
Thanks for you value time to read this..
Happy hunting
Blink
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Your fun is her work. Be fair to her.
[QUOTE=Blink157] I told her I love you, but I dont love you evry day :D....
Serious, I dont like to have a steady relation yet, so many gurls here and I know myself not being that faithfull if I dont really love a gurl and until now Im not much in love.
Ok, so after that she left with the guy and I was sitting in my room and thinkin WTF...and also why do I worry, it was me who didnt wanted to meet her now..
I ask her and she says its my fault we fight before. Any comment on this??
Thanks for you value time to read this..
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Blink, Your fun is her work. Any relationship that comes from you having fun and her doing her job more enthusiastically with you (call it GFE) is a bonus
I agree with both of you. I agree with your question to yourself about "why worry, since you chose not to be with her". If she hadn't come into the same bar where you were, you would never have known, and it doesn't sound like you were planning to go looking for her.
And I agree with your girl that it is your fault that the two of you fought. She has to work . . . you do NOT have to pay her on nights when you are not with her . . . and especially if you have not made arrangements for the night, then she will have to do what seems most sensible at the time.
She may be your friend, but she is still a working girl. I say don't give her grief for simply doing a difficult job. Once somebody else has barfined her, then she owes that fellow her attention. Maybe different if YOU approached the fellow and bought back the barfine, but that's not something you should expect her to do . . . especially since you seem to be clear in your own mind that you are still playing the field.
If you have not made a formal (and financial) commitment to her, then she has to earn a living. That includes not doing anything to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a customer who has paid for her services already.
My advice for you depends on what you want. If you want to keep seeing your girl and deepen your relationship because you have strong feelings for her (dangerous though that may be). Well ok, then best to go to her and apologize - take full responsibility for having behaved badly when she was only doing her job. Tell her the fight was your fault, but that the reason you were upset is because you care for her. Don't forget the many lessons and warnings from others posted on this site to never go down this path. You won't be the first or the last if you follow your heart instead of your brain though.
On the other hand, if you want to keep playing the field without regard for her feelings - which is a totally valid choice - then either don't say anything, or simply tell her you are sorry you gave her a hard time for only doing her job. But leave the "you care for her" story out of it unless you mean it. Don't play with these girls' emotions. It isn't nice, even if it's tempting to do.
No offense meant, Blink - I hope I come across as offering only my opinion and not scolding you. But I think you are experiencing the normal sort of human jealousy that we first see when one child suddenly wants a toy he was not playing with before - only after a second child begins to play with that very same toy that he didn't care about before.
Most of us STILL feel that jealous emotion from time-to-time all our lives. But most of us also recognize it for what it is - bad news - and suppress it (grin) - well, at least most of the time.
Hope that helps.
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[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello to all,
Im not sure if somebody reads my extreme thrilling report from what have last happen to me in AC and about my so called GF.
I should say that I go AC evry weekend to party and then meet my GF. I told her I love you, but I dont love you evry day :D....
Serious, I dont like to have a steady relation yet, so many gurls here and I know myself not being that faithfull if I dont really love a gurl and until now Im not much in love.
Thats what I thought....WRONG...Last time I havent told my GF that I will come another day to AC, but I was there allready. Happends to me I got a bit stomach sick from the day before and just sleep all day, woke up around midnight and decide to go to some bars. Went back at Orchid Inn around 3 am and Voila, who shows up after some minutes. My Atlantis spotlight dancer GF with her friend and 2 asian guys. They like asian for some special reasons.
Now she walks in, looked up and oh shock, saw me, turning into LOts Wife immedtly..
But that was all, they sit, while I was standing over them (they were full so at that night I had to sleep in those standard rooms in the front desk area)and look like a dumbshit. From what I saw, she immdediatly moved away some inches from the guy..
I txt her and called her and ask her if she stays in the hotel with the guy and she says yes..I have to say we had some quarel before I had to find some excuses not to see her..
Ok, so after that she left with the guy and I was sitting in my room and thinkin WTF...and also why do I worry, it was me who didnt wanted to meet her now..
Now, knowing me as a nice guy, she could have come over to me and I would pay the sucker his barfine back and he could bunr his money with somebody else, cause my GF is pretty but a starfish to those she not attracted, specially her "barfines"..I know that from before..
So, why put this little story in the filipina thread...actually I want to share my experience and happy for some input from you guys..
Should she have come to me after I saw her?? SHould she go back to the bar and gave the guy his barfine back? She did nothing like that, her escuse was the guy allready paid her barfine and thats why she have to went with him, well I can say that I also pay her sometimes her barfine but nothing happn during the night, cause we both were drunk and I wanted to sleep as well she does, but then the next night no sleep at all. What Im telling is, how should she act..
I ask her and she says its my fault we fight before. Any comment on this??
Thanks for you value time to read this..
Happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]OK. A few things. First off. When you say "Voila, who shows up after some minutes". Did the two of you share a steady room or something? How is it she came to the room you were in, when from the sounds of it you werent supposed to be there? The guy takes the girl to HIS room, not hers. I'm confused about this.
Second. It doesnt sound like you two are steady. So, sorry man but she's open season on whomever she wants to go BF with. Now, if you were serious, you, her, and mamasan would sit down mand make an arrangement about permanently BF her, or taking her off the market. It isn't terribly uncommon. Or, if you're REALLY serious, you would pay for her to go back home and you would support her. It doesnt sound like you're at that point.
Filipinas are a dichotomy. They are FIERCLY loyal, and FULL of temper and revenge. Just because a girl works in a bar doesnt mean she doesnt either want a normal life, or a normal relationship. But, from the sounds of it, you two arent that serious.
Sorry bro. She's open game. Hell. Post a pic and a name maybe I'll BF her when I come in August: p
(caveat: the above are statements of a general nature, and do not apply to every circumstance. But, exceptions make the rule true).
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[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Blink, Your fun is her work. Any relationship that comes from you having fun and her doing her job more enthusiastically with you (call it GFE) is a bonus
I agree with both of you. I agree with your question to yourself about "why worry, since you chose not to be with her". If she hadn't come into the same bar where you were, you would never have known, and it doesn't sound like you were planning to go looking for her.
And I agree with your girl that it is your fault that the two of you fought. She has to work. You do NOT have to pay her on nights when you are not with her. And especially if you have not made arrangements for the night, then she will have to do what seems most sensible at the time.
She may be your friend, but she is still a working girl. I say don't give her grief for simply doing a difficult job. Once somebody else has barfined her, then she owes that fellow her attention. Maybe different if YOU approached the fellow and bought back the barfine, but that's not something you should expect her to do. Especially since you seem to be clear in your own mind that you are still playing the field.
If you have not made a formal (and financial) commitment to her, then she has to earn a living. That includes not doing anything to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a customer who has paid for her services already.
My advice for you depends on what you want. If you want to keep seeing your girl and deepen your relationship because you have strong feelings for her (dangerous though that may be). Well ok, then best to go to her and apologize. Take full responsibility for having behaved badly when she was only doing her job. Tell her the fight was your fault, but that the reason you were upset is because you care for her. Don't forget the many lessons and warnings from others posted on this site to never go down this path. You won't be the first or the last if you follow your heart instead of your brain though.
On the other hand, if you want to keep playing the field without regard for her feelings. Which is a totally valid choice. Then either don't say anything, or simply tell her you are sorry you gave her a hard time for only doing her job. But leave the "you care for her" story out of it unless you mean it. Don't play with these girls' emotions. It isn't nice, even if it's tempting to do.
No offense meant, Blink. I hope I come across as offering only my opinion and not scolding you. But I think you are experiencing the normal sort of human jealousy that we first see when one child suddenly wants a toy he was not playing with before. Only after a second child begins to play with that very same toy that he didn't care about before.
Most of us STILL feel that jealous emotion from time-to-time all our lives. But most of us also recognize it for what it is. Bad news. And suppress it (grin). Well, at least most of the time.
Hope that helps. [/QUOTE]Shit. We posted the same thing LOL. I guess blink there's your answer: D
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Painting the taint!
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Gamhucher.....I LOVE THAT MONIKER, mainly as a certain disc Jockey in Washington DC (The greasman) used to use that phrase when refering to
picking up girls and screwing them (As in that little honey you're Gamhooching might have a leak in her plumbing) Translation...that girl you're screwing might have the clap...he would talk this way on the air as the FCC
couldn't fine the radio station for indeceny, I'm Kinda curious if you ever heard of the guy in OZ and thats how you got the name???
Anyhow to answer your question:
Being a conoseurre of Brown skinned honeys (I like 'em dark) I've noticed that different regions in the Phils have differing "Pink places" and brown places, probably an ethnic trait, those with Chinese blood have less pink and brown BTW. Withouta doubt Mindano lass' have brown pink places and pinker brown places. Especially near the "Taint" (as in It tain't pussy and it Taint a butt hole) best to examine such area in an afternoon romp or with the light on for verification.
IMHO Thai women have darker Pink places than Filipina, especially the nips.
P.S.
Hairiness seems to be a second hereditary trait in accordance with pinker
pink places.
Geez I better stop babbling
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
Hi Spam, Nice to see you back (not that I knew you had been away, I'm a bit of a nublet hereabouts). First response to my facetious query, which was a bit disappointing as I was hoping for a bit more banter and repartee. However I sense from your posts that you are a bit of a kidder yourself so there is hope for us all yet.
I'm not a Foo Rucker (couldn't catch one so guess I'll leave that to Amavida). I'm from the old country so concentrate my efforts on sheep and LBFM’s:o
Fantastic to hear about the Greaseman’s smooching and gamahuching when few of his listeners had a clue what the fuck he was talking about. Its actually an old French word for muff diving which I guess implies that his advice was to take care they don’t [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in your mouth whilst your tucking in at the Y!
Well still think the brownest girls are from the Cagayan Valley in North Luzon. I used to live in Tuguegarao City and never failed to be amazed at the numbers of very dusky beauties strolling the streets. However yet to get to Mindanao (although I’ve screwed plenty them cute Mindanaoan lasses) so maybe they are darker there.
Love the ‘taint’ reference. So I guess ‘painting the taint’ involves a little bit of lingual erogenous stimulation?
Cheers GH
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[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]Blink, Your fun is her work. Any relationship that comes from you having fun and her doing her job more enthusiastically with you (call it GFE) is a bonus
I agree with both of you. I agree with your question to yourself about "why worry, since you chose not to be with her". If she hadn't come into the same bar where you were, you would never have known, and it doesn't sound like you were planning to go looking for her.
And I agree with your girl that it is your fault that the two of you fought. She has to work . . . you do NOT have to pay her on nights when you are not with her . . . and especially if you have not made arrangements for the night, then she will have to do what seems most sensible at the time.
She may be your friend, but she is still a working girl. I say don't give her grief for simply doing a difficult job. Once somebody else has barfined her, then she owes that fellow her attention. Maybe different if YOU approached the fellow and bought back the barfine, but that's not something you should expect her to do . . . especially since you seem to be clear in your own mind that you are still playing the field.
If you have not made a formal (and financial) commitment to her, then she has to earn a living. That includes not doing anything to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a customer who has paid for her services already.
My advice for you depends on what you want. If you want to keep seeing your girl and deepen your relationship because you have strong feelings for her (dangerous though that may be). Well ok, then best to go to her and apologize - take full responsibility for having behaved badly when she was only doing her job. Tell her the fight was your fault, but that the reason you were upset is because you care for her. Don't forget the many lessons and warnings from others posted on this site to never go down this path. You won't be the first or the last if you follow your heart instead of your brain though.
On the other hand, if you want to keep playing the field without regard for her feelings - which is a totally valid choice - then either don't say anything, or simply tell her you are sorry you gave her a hard time for only doing her job. But leave the "you care for her" story out of it unless you mean it. Don't play with these girls' emotions. It isn't nice, even if it's tempting to do.
No offense meant, Blink - I hope I come across as offering only my opinion and not scolding you. But I think you are experiencing the normal sort of human jealousy that we first see when one child suddenly wants a toy he was not playing with before - only after a second child begins to play with that very same toy that he didn't care about before.
Most of us STILL feel that jealous emotion from time-to-time all our lives. But most of us also recognize it for what it is - bad news - and suppress it (grin) - well, at least most of the time.
Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]
thanks for ur comments, also from the guys who PM me..
Yes, I like my freedom, but jelousy caught me in the act, I dont mind what she do if Im not around, I know it but I dont see it. But When I get confronted with that I got jellous. Guess I feel like one of those locals, who got supported from their workin bargirl friends, try to ignore the fact but get pissed on us when they see us with their so called GF s :D
Well , tomrow IM back, we txt allready, she called me and told me when M there tomrow she wont work and on saturday we going to watch Iron man :D
LG, life is good
Blink
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]I'm not a Foo Rucker (couldn't catch one so guess I'll leave that to Amavida)[/QUOTE]He he he! :) What the hell is that?? Sounds weird!
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]He he he! :) What the hell is that?? Sounds weird!
AV[/QUOTE]
You've heard of sheep shaggers? Well transpose 2 letters and what have you got? Don't guess its theoretically possible unless you got the fucker on its back and was able to avoid those lethal big feet. Do that and I guess you'd be in furry paradise and what is more would have a handy pouch to put your KY and stuff ;)
For people who don't speak aussie how about this?
Addendum - Don't mind me, I was a squaddie in a former life so naturally have a rather peculiar sense of humour.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]...I guess you'd be in furry paradise and what is more would have a handy pouch to put your KY and stuff ;)[/QUOTE]:D hehehe! Ya think of everything mate!
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Foo Rucker
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]You've heard of sheep shaggers? Well transpose 2 letters and what have you got? [/QUOTE]
There was an old joke about a husband and wife missionaries traveling in the outback. When they returned to their hotel, they complained to the clerk about seeing a native foo rucking and a one legged man leaning against a tree masturbating.
The hotel clerk simply replied "How can the poor booger catch a roo with only one leg."
Slim
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Double standards of women
Why do women love oral sex performed on themselves but regard oral sex on their man with disgust?
Here in the phils I have had the privilege several times of pretty young virgin ask me to introduce her to adult sex life. These girls, genuine virgins, ALL enthusiastically accepted DATY. But getting them to suck YOUR dick? Oh no! (Of course in time with patience they have all learned to please a man)
Seems to be a universal trait amongst women all over the world.
AV
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Skin Off
[QUOTE=Amavida]Why do women love oral sex performed on themselves but regard oral sex on their man with disgust?
Here in the phils I have had the privilege several times of pretty young virgin ask me to introduce her to adult sex life. These girls, genuine virgins, ALL enthusiastically accepted DATY. But getting them to suck YOUR dick? Oh no! (Of course in time with patience they have all learned to please a man)
Seems to be a universal trait amongst women all over the world.
AV[/QUOTE]
Hmm this is strange... most Filipinas I have met could suck a golf ball through a garden hose. :)
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the Filipina's I've met could suckstart a leafblower.
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Hmm this is strange... most Filipinas I have met could suck a golf ball through a garden hose. :)[/QUOTE]
Most filipinas you've had mustnt have been cherries. Even though some of the cherry girls in AC will do "anything but", they werent born with head knowledge :D
They gotta be taught hehe
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Nope
[QUOTE=Blackangst]Most filipinas you've had mustnt have been cherries. Even though some of the cherry girls in AC will do "anything but", they werent born with head knowledge :D
They gotta be taught hehe[/QUOTE]
Nah none of the Filipinas I have had have been virgins. I also don't want one. When If not my girl I don't like all that sweet time... The girl I bar friend in Cebu was close to a virgin as I have seen. Her snatch also felt like one. The fear in her face, the thumping heart and her inexperience but she performed once I showed her the ropes.
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Worlds best bj
[QUOTE=Blazepontaine]the Filipina's I've met could suckstart a leafblower.[/QUOTE]
Best BJ I ever had was in the Philippines (and I've had some knee tremblers over the years in various parts of the world). She was a young 'butter wouldn't melt' shopgirl type which made it all the more astonishing. Whoever had been coaching her had done a world class job. I won't go into the gory details but suffice to say she must love her protein shakes. Everything else was red hot as well. I was so into it that I forgot to get my camera out even though she had agreed to a few pix. I also didn't get her cf no which was more inexcuseable and never saw her again. The following day the whole scenario seemed so unreal to me that I seriously thought that I had dreamed the whole thing. Except that I had the hickey (good job the missus was away) and was still as sore as hell :D
Ain't the Philippines great!!
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How did you show her the ropes? Did you tie her up?
x
[QUOTE=D Etat] The fear in her face, the thumping heart and her inexperience but she performed once I showed her the ropes.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Blackangst]OK. A few things. First off. When you say "Voila, who shows up after some minutes". Did the two of you share a steady room or something? How is it she came to the room you were in, when from the sounds of it you werent supposed to be there? The guy takes the girl to HIS room, not hers. I'm confused about this.
Second. It doesnt sound like you two are steady. So, sorry man but she's open season on whomever she wants to go BF with. Now, if you were serious, you, her, and mamasan would sit down mand make an arrangement about permanently BF her, or taking her off the market. It isn't terribly uncommon. Or, if you're REALLY serious, you would pay for her to go back home and you would support her. It doesnt sound like you're at that point.
Filipinas are a dichotomy. They are FIERCLY loyal, and FULL of temper and revenge. Just because a girl works in a bar doesnt mean she doesnt either want a normal life, or a normal relationship. But, from the sounds of it, you two arent that serious.
Sorry bro. She's open game. Hell. Post a pic and a name maybe I'll BF her when I come in August: p
(caveat: the above are statements of a general nature, and do not apply to every circumstance. But, exceptions make the rule true).[/QUOTE]
Hi,
just been a bit sick and there were no connection in the place where I stayed last night,(Apartele Royale, AC, 2800p , jacuzzi room)so here my reply..
She showed up in Orchid Inn at frontdesk with her friend and 2 asian guys. I was in the standard room near the frontdesk so I could see who is coming or going out..Thats not my hobby, but bfore I went to my room alone, I saw her coming in with her customer. Well , of course she wanted to leave the bar and be with me all the time, but I havent plan that yet, cause I also have another GF who wanted the same, non working collegue student from the province, so called good gurl. Well , Im living here and I know, soon or later if you want to be serious with a gurl, she wanted a kid, she wanted to live with you,etc etc etc....doesnt matter if she work in a bar, not all bar gurls are bad and of course they all woman who wanted a normal life and normal relation..on the other hand Im just started to live her again and I guess I need some time to be with one GF..as of now..Im not ready for that, on the other other side I also dont wana see her going with another guy..well lets see..I know when Im in manila and she work in the bar she likely go with a guy if she dont make enough money on drinks. If Im in ac its also hard for her to skip the bar, cause the mama san knows Im her steady so called BF and when Im in town and she is absent, then she is with me....as of now its complicated..
anyway hope my reply helps a bit, sorry for my english, I could do much better, but Im dizzy with all the medication I took to overcome this f..in cold, its not fun to have a flue in ac, evrybody is drinkin and having fun (see fotosection I also had :D) and me , just sippin on calamansi juice and sleeping all day, sweating, drinkin water and pills and syrup...well, hopefully next week I can barhop again :D
Happy hunting
Blink
PS see fotosection, sorry only my GF butt on the picture, but she is pretty, I have a good taste :D
PPS Blackangst if you not asian guy with big money waving around, she wont go barfine with you.at least since Im in town and she aint what you called hot in bed, only when she is ur steady one she changed and give it all to you
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[QUOTE=X Man]How did you show her the ropes? Did you tie her up?
x[/QUOTE]
Blimey mate, was that a joke you made? Feeling dizzy? Need a seat? Stiff drink?
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Hey blink...sucks youre sick hope u feel better soon!
I dont know man ur in a bad place and you really only have two choices in my opinion. First, let her go. If Youre paying a steady b/f that usually means when ur in town she doesnt barfine except with you. Is this the arrangement you had? It sounds like she doesnt want to quit partying yet.
Second, as a couple people have said you need to firm up arrangements with her and her mamasan. Set some rules. Otherwise she might not really honor your request.
I agree that most BG are decent human beings and want nothing more than to have a loving normal family. If you cant give it to her thats fine, but you have to find a way to deal with your own jealousy. Which brings me back to my first point. Either sponsor her, and get her back to the province, or perma BF her with the understanding she wont BF except you when youre in town. I know of several girls with this arrangement and a couple who dont BF anyone- ladies drinks only. Again you gotta work it out with mamasan.
Good luck bro
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[QUOTE=X Man]Try to find a book titled "the manipulated man". It's rather old so likely out of print. It's great stuff. In one section the author explains why women look down on prostitutes. The reason is that they are giving it away too cheaply / easily, making their entrapment more difficult.
Strangely enough, the book was written by a woman.
X[/QUOTE]Ester Vella.
Then she also did another book called the polygamus sex.
Great book read them both.
Wizard
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My GF back to Chatting ways...
Through my keylogger I've learned that my live in GF has gone back to her ways and started chatting with other men... again :(
I sent Honi ko back to Phil's for Christmas Holidays end of 2007. After her arrival to MNL, I emailed her that it be better she find another to support her and she can look for a job there or try her luck as a DH in other country. I can manage myself and dont need her coming back to give me more stress.
I also explained that she make me tired of her excuses. All day chat, email and Friendster. Enough is enough.
I went silent after that for 5 days. She sent 3 emails a day trying to make sorry and telling me she will not chat or Friendster anymore if I allow her back. I told her she has the same BS story each time I scold her and she will test me again to see if I will catch her.
About the only thing I could do to salvage the situation is to "Password" protect the notebook. but I worry cuase she have a bad temper.
In closing, it wouldn't be sooooo bad about the chatting but it's with a [B]member of the Board[/B] (no names but I know).
Not being jealous but I feel cheated!
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Hey Blink,
Here is my 2 cents, until you know what you want. Let her earn a living doing what she does. Don't barfine her, let her work, let her get her ladies drinks while you are in town and arrange to meet after she finishes work. That way she knows you are in town and won't barfine on that night, and mamasan can't do much once she has finished her shift.( unless you stand at the front door waiting for her to knock off).
You already know that once you are away from AC she is more than likely to barfine, but you find it hard to accept it when you not tell her you are in town and see her doing her job. If she knew you were in town she would not have barfined in the frist place.
Hope you work out what you want before things get too complicated.
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sneak attack
[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike]Through my keylogger I've learned that my live in GF has gone back to her ways and started chatting with other men... again :(
I sent Honi ko back to Phil's for Christmas Holidays end of 2007. After her arrival to MNL, I emailed her that it be better she find another to support her and she can look for a job there or try her luck as a DH in other country. I can manage myself and dont need her coming back to give me more stress.
I also explained that she make me tired of her excuses. All day chat, email and Friendster. Enough is enough.
I went silent after that for 5 days. She sent 3 emails a day trying to make sorry and telling me she will not chat or Friendster anymore if I allow her back. I told her she has the same BS story each time I scold her and she will test me again to see if I will catch her.
About the only thing I could do to salvage the situation is to "Password" protect the notebook. but I worry cuase she have a bad temper.
In closing, it wouldn't be sooooo bad about the chatting but it's with a [B]member of the Board[/B] (no names but I know).
Not being jealous but I feel cheated![/QUOTE]
Wanna really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off and catch her red handed? Take a Tip from the Spamhog with this trick I used so effectively in my PI days to "Out" cheating GF who troll online.
Just set yourself up with a totally new Yahoo or whatever ID, fake name, fake US (Or where ever) address and borrow a picture from one of your friends to send her...of course you dont have a web cam you're new to chatting blah blah blah. Chat with her and get her to add you to the address book. Then you can spot check her by signing in invisible to see if she is online playing her all the while until the day you get a web cam and BLAMMM! Its you awww shit hehehehehehe
Spamhog
Spamhog
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[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike]Through my keylogger I've learned that my live in GF has gone back to her ways and started chatting with other men... again :(
I sent Honi ko back to Phil's for Christmas Holidays end of 2007. After her arrival to MNL, I emailed her that it be better she find another to support her and she can look for a job there or try her luck as a DH in other country. I can manage myself and dont need her coming back to give me more stress.
I also explained that she make me tired of her excuses. All day chat, email and Friendster. Enough is enough.
I went silent after that for 5 days. She sent 3 emails a day trying to make sorry and telling me she will not chat or Friendster anymore if I allow her back. I told her she has the same BS story each time I scold her and she will test me again to see if I will catch her.
About the only thing I could do to salvage the situation is to "Password" protect the notebook. but I worry cuase she have a bad temper.
In closing, it wouldn't be sooooo bad about the chatting but it's with a [B]member of the Board[/B] (no names but I know).
Not being jealous but I feel cheated![/QUOTE] Hi Mike, I've noticed that the younger they are the more likely they will be hooked on the the ego stroking of friendster & chat. My youngest GF is 18 1/2, she & i have had some wonderful times. For reasons of hygiene I don't want her sleeping around so i told her be loyal to me or forget it. She wanted to hang on to her friendster & CB accounts. I said to her 'hey if your happy with me you don't need those anymore, lose the accounts or lose me'.
You call the shots not her. Mike, the Phils is filled with great girls who will be loyal to you. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off & find a good one.
AV
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wait what?
[QUOTE=Amavida]Hi Mike, I've noticed that the younger they are the more likely they will be hooked on the the ego stroking of friendster & chat. My youngest GF is 18 1/2, she & i have had some wonderful times. For reasons of hygiene I don't want her sleeping around so i told her be loyal to me or forget it. She wanted to hang on to her friendster & CB accounts. I said to her 'hey if your happy with me you don't need those anymore, lose the accounts or lose me'.
You call the shots not her. Mike, the Phils is filled with great girls who will be loyal to you. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off & find a good one.
AV[/QUOTE]
AV...I enjoy your posts and you do have some good knowledge; however...to expect your gf of 18 1/2 years of age to *cough* remain faithful while 1. youre married, and 2. are fucking around is complete bullshit. Sorry bro but if I was her I wouldnt be able to contain my laughter...
To each their own I guess.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]For reasons of hygiene I don't want her sleeping around so i told her be loyal to me or forget it. She wanted to hang on to her friendster & CB accounts. I said to her 'hey if your happy with me you don't need those anymore, lose the accounts or lose me'.
You call the shots not her. Mike, the Phils is filled with great girls who will be loyal to you. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off & find a good one.
AV[/QUOTE]Good call on your part. Keeping her "Fresh" is most important. My live in GF is 22 and 1 child of 3 years old. The child lives with the Grand mother in Phil's.
I DATY and BB my GF almost nightly and have done so for 18 months on end. Cant count how many withdraws I've made but she has a good time milking my snake on her tummy.
Getting back to the issue. I don't need to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off and then she take it out on my laptop or cut me off from the poon and BBBJ. Been fantastic thus far.
She has a terrible temper and has been known to throw things and do so without worrying if things get damaged or not.
I dont fear for my safety. She knows I will send her packing on a 1 way plane ticket. I worry about my stuff more than her.
I will keep your advise in mind.
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Moral Outrage
[QUOTE=Blackangst]AV...I enjoy your posts and you do have some good knowledge; however...to expect your gf of 18 1/2 years of age to *cough* remain faithful while 1. youre married, and 2. are fucking around is complete bullshit. Sorry bro but if I was her I wouldnt be able to contain my laughter...
To each their own I guess.[/QUOTE]Its not a matter of morals, its a matter of hygiene ok?.
As far as my GF's are concerned it's "my way or the highway".
You know what, most women here know when they are on to a good thing and stay loyal.
No offense taken B. I live in pussy paradise & thoroughly enjoy it. If you or anyone else has a problem with that, it's your problem not mine.
AV
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Advise needed
I just got scammed. I am meeting different ladies here in the Phillippines. I have one that I have chatted to for over a year, but not very often. I learned from someone on the board in the past, never to send a girl money, make them pay or borrow the money for their trip from the province to visit you. this has worked in the past, I just paid for their return flight/ferry and gave them 1k (or whatever the cost was, plus a little interest).
So this girl says she could not borrow the money she tried ever thing and could I just send her the money Western Union (Western Union is the second and third words a Pinay learns after "load" Anyway, my dick gets the best of me, so I buy a ticket yesterday at a travel agent with cash. I send her the Link for the eticket. Last night she mentions she would like to visit her cousin (another Pinay favorite slogan) I am agitated but say ok, thinking she can visit during the day, and be free for the nights with me. Luckily I did not buy the round trip ticket yet, because I was going to see how many days before I got bored with her.(we have nothing in common, but my dick is thinking it is worth the boredome for a few nights of pleasure)
Anyway, I show up at the airport to pick her up, and she is already with 2 well worn cousins. I can tell she is like a puppet for the older one who moved to Manila 15 years ago. So basically she starts telling me she is going to stay with the cousins at night. At this time I realized I just payed $80 for the one way flight here, and she could care less about me. So the worn/expericed scammer cousin asked if I am hungry, aka buy me food.I say no, but I can drop them of at the mall so they can eat, while I run an important errond. I said I will call them on the cell when I am done and pick them up. Off I go!
Now my dilemaa, I promised her I would pay for her transprotation back to her province. I know she can get back, her cousins can help her.They have everthing she need, remember she had planned to stay with them at night. She just found out my real frist name last week, and only knows my last name from went I just sent her load via Chika. She has no Idea were I am staying in Manila.
I figure I can cut my losses now at $80, only her and one girl know my cell phone number, I can just toss the phone/sim. I figure that nothing good can become of me talking to her again, especially with the puppet master cousin of hers. Is there anything legal she can do to me? or make my time here miseerable? Am I libale for her transprotation back home?
I figure I can send her an email ":Ï have to fly home, my grandfather is very ill on his farm, I will email you next week if I can get the internet in his city, God bless" Or morally should I fly the ***** home on my dime.
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More moral outrage
Asawa ko & I got asked to officiate at a Miss Philippines beauty pageant in the province last nite. Was this married man salivating over these honeys? You betch your ass he was!
Asawa ko & all the women made great sport of teasing me. It was very nice having gorgeous young women playfully hanging all over me I can tell you.
Anybody got a problem with that? Tough!
AV
p.s. sorry about the quality of the pic, taken at night with a phone, hands shaking with lecherous anticipation hehehe :D
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Its not a matter of morals, its a matter of hygiene ok?.
As far as my GF's are concerned it's "my way or the highway".
You know what, most women here know when they are on to a good thing and stay loyal.
No offense taken B. I live in pussy paradise & thoroughly enjoy it. If you or anyone else has a problem with that, it's your problem not mine.
AV[/QUOTE]
No need to get defensive :) I dont have a problem with it, I just think its kinda funny is all. Like I said, I enjoy your posts and to each their own :) I do think its funny when you say "for safety reasons"...how about HER safety? Or is that irrelevant?
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One lucky muther
I chuckle when a fellow member, married and living with a Pinay and in the Philippines, claims to be drowning in pussy. I know them, been there, got the t-shirt (but dare not wear it) and can tell you that the truth is usually very different. Filipina's are jealous, possessive animals who like to keep their men (particularly if that mans a Kano) on a shortish leash. So pursuit of a 'bit of skirt' is possible but a devious and furtive undertaking worthy of a CIA field operative. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either a dreamer or very fortunate.
So A, I believe you must be one lucky muther but don't make me take a polygraph :)
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G You Know Your Stuff
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]I chuckle when a fellow member, married and living with a Pinay and in the Philippines, claims to be drowning in pussy. I know them, been there, got the t-shirt (but dare not wear it) and can tell you that the truth is usually very different. Filipina's are jealous, possessive animals who like to keep their men (particularly if that mans a Kano) on a shortish leash. So pursuit of a 'bit of skirt' is possible but a devious and furtive undertaking worthy of a CIA field operative. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either a dreamer or very fortunate.
So A, I believe you must be one lucky muther but don't make me take a polygraph :)[/QUOTE]
G you know your shit...I don't believe it either what the subject matter was I am not even married to my ole lady but she got a lot of time invested in my zany behavior. I have to plead with my ole lady just to take a strole to the mall alone. Man my ole lady didn't watch me as much as when we was in Japan but since we moved here she gets jealous when I just walk to the store alone. She knows the hunt is on and I am the prey. Two days ago I walked to the store and these girls were just yelling and cat calling. I know what American women felt like when they use to walk past my posse when I was younger.
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Cut Her Off
[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike]Through my keylogger I've learned that my live in GF has gone back to her ways and started chatting with other men... again :(
I sent Honi ko back to Phil's for Christmas Holidays end of 2007. After her arrival to MNL, I emailed her that it be better she find another to support her and she can look for a job there or try her luck as a DH in other country. I can manage myself and dont need her coming back to give me more stress.
I also explained that she make me tired of her excuses. All day chat, email and Friendster. Enough is enough.
I went silent after that for 5 days. She sent 3 emails a day trying to make sorry and telling me she will not chat or Friendster anymore if I allow her back. I told her she has the same BS story each time I scold her and she will test me again to see if I will catch her.
About the only thing I could do to salvage the situation is to "Password" protect the notebook. but I worry cuase she have a bad temper.
In closing, it wouldn't be sooooo bad about the chatting but it's with a [B]member of the Board[/B] (no names but I know).
Not being jealous but I feel cheated![/QUOTE]
Too many women in PI to put up with bullshit like that.
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Scamming.....
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]I just got scammed....[/QUOTE]
And you will continue to get scammed as long as you stay here. PI is filled with wolves and you are sheep.
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The Mayor's advice
[QUOTE=D Etat]And you will continue to get scammed as long as you stay here. PI is filled with wolves and you are sheep.[/QUOTE]Being an american born meztiso visiting the PI for first time, I asked my uncle, the mayor, to give me advice for visiting the P. I. He said "trust no one, and the girls just want your money. " I took that advice to heart and have only been scammed by cousin who I "loaned" money to. I have learned that loan means gift. LOL.
Melluvulongtime
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trouble makers
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]I just got scammed. I am meeting different ladies here in the Phillippines. I have one that I have chatted to for over a year, but not very often. I learned from someone on the board in the past, never to send a girl money, make them pay or borrow the money for their trip from the province to visit you. this has worked in the past, I just paid for their return flight/ferry and gave them 1k (or whatever the cost was, plus a little interest).
So this girl says she could not borrow the money she tried ever thing and could I just send her the money Western Union (Western Union is the second and third words a Pinay learns after "load" Anyway, my dick gets the best of me, so I buy a ticket yesterday at a travel agent with cash. I send her the Link for the eticket. Last night she mentions she would like to visit her cousin (another Pinay favorite slogan) I am agitated but say ok, thinking she can visit during the day, and be free for the nights with me. Luckily I did not buy the round trip ticket yet, because I was going to see how many days before I got bored with her.(we have nothing in common, but my dick is thinking it is worth the boredome for a few nights of pleasure)
Anyway, I show up at the airport to pick her up, and she is already with 2 well worn cousins. I can tell she is like a puppet for the older one who moved to Manila 15 years ago. So basically she starts telling me she is going to stay with the cousins at night. At this time I realized I just payed $80 for the one way flight here, and she could care less about me. So the worn/expericed scammer cousin asked if I am hungry, aka buy me food.I say no, but I can drop them of at the mall so they can eat, while I run an important errond. I said I will call them on the cell when I am done and pick them up. Off I go!
Now my dilemaa, I promised her I would pay for her transprotation back to her province. I know she can get back, her cousins can help her.They have everthing she need, remember she had planned to stay with them at night. She just found out my real frist name last week, and only knows my last name from went I just sent her load via Chika. She has no Idea were I am staying in Manila.
I figure I can cut my losses now at $80, only her and one girl know my cell phone number, I can just toss the phone/sim. I figure that nothing good can become of me talking to her again, especially with the puppet master cousin of hers. Is there anything legal she can do to me? or make my time here miseerable? Am I libale for her transprotation back home?
I figure I can send her an email ":Ï have to fly home, my grandfather is very ill on his farm, I will email you next week if I can get the internet in his city, God bless" Or morally should I fly the ***** home on my dime.[/QUOTE]
well,
those things can happen and its typical for the scam online ladys..things can turn out different, but in this case I think ur instincts told you she is a trouble maker, so next time dont waste r time with those ladys.She can allways make u a trouble, but I guess in that case it will be ok, she might txt or call you a bit but that will be all....lesson learned, move on, if I would be on a holiday trip I wouldnt waste muich time with them..plenty of gurls around, go to a mall and ask them for a date ....or visit bars and collect cp numbers and meet the ladys after work..actually I should do this now...Im alone at home, but still taking medicine to come over my flue..dam...and my cp allways full of txt ...hehehhe....I think i go now starbucks and have a breakfast...play safe and avoid scammers..also a bargurl can be fresh and pretty..u just need to search for it...
happy hunting
Blink
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[QUOTE=Blink157]well,
those things can happen and its typical for the scam online ladys..things can turn out different, but in this case I think ur instincts told you she is a trouble maker, so next time dont waste r time with those ladys.She can allways make u a trouble, but I guess in that case it will be ok, she might txt or call you a bit but that will be all....lesson learned, move on, if I would be on a holiday trip I wouldnt waste muich time with them..plenty of gurls around, go to a mall and ask them for a date ....or visit bars and collect cp numbers and meet the ladys after work..actually I should do this now...Im alone at home, but still taking medicine to come over my flue..dam...and my cp allways full of txt ...hehehhe....I think i go now starbucks and have a breakfast...play safe and avoid scammers..also a bargurl can be fresh and pretty..u just need to search for it...
happy hunting
Blink[/QUOTE]I should have seen it coming, she kept asking if she could bring a sister or cousin on the ferry to meet me in Cebu. I figured I had a few open days to spend with her in Manila and I would only have to pay for her airfare.
She now has to pay for her way back and her cousin that flew in with her is paying her own way.
There is Harrison mall just a few blocks away, I think I will grab something to eat and check out the offerings.
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$80 is cheap...
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]...I figure I can cut my losses now at $80, only her and one girl know my cell phone number, I can just toss the phone/sim.
Am I libale for her transprotation back home? [/QUOTE]I have sent/spent more than that and learned from the mistakes.
1) buy her a ferry ticket home. You have held up your end. Or at least give her the P1000 for the ferry ticket and part ways... never to look back or answer calls.
2) Toss the SIM. She and her cousins will harass you till you get annoyed.
3) Ignore the emails, text and calls. Eventually she will stop.
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Why are they so bloody moody
Any wise words on this one, your having a conversation earlier in the afternoon all is great and laughing etc. Call them in the evening great still laughing. They go to a birthday party have a few drinks and text you so I call and the conversation just keeps going down hill and it finishes with I dont want to talk to you.
The next day well I will tell you later today.
Wizard
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Looking for a Reason?
[QUOTE=Wizard561]Any wise words on this one, your having a conversation earlier in the afternoon all is great and laughing etc. Call them in the evening great still laughing. They go to a birthday party have a few drinks and text you so I call and the conversation just keeps going down hill and it finishes with I dont want to talk to you.
The next day well I will tell you later today.
Wizard[/QUOTE]
Quote - The Female of the species is deadlier than the Male
There may be many reasons for the way she acted, e.g.
She met someone else at the party.
She was a bad girl at the party.
Someone told her something about you.
Then again there could be no rational reason whatsoever, who knows??
The only wise words I can offer are -
Do not take any notice.
Do not take it to heart.
Do not take any crap.
Do not stop looking for a better one.
Cheers, F/Fifty
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Sounds like Tampo
[QUOTE=Wizard561]Any wise words on this one, your having a conversation earlier in the afternoon all is great and laughing etc. Call them in the evening great still laughing. They go to a birthday party have a few drinks and text you so I call and the conversation just keeps going down hill and it finishes with I dont want to talk to you.
The next day well I will tell you later today.
Wizard[/QUOTE]Sounds Like Tampo to me
Tampo is usually manifested in the withdrawal of affectionate or cheerful behavior, and its expression is almost entirely nonverbal. These manifestations include:
-resisting expressions of affection
-not talking to the person concerned, or to people in general
-being unusually quiet
-locking one's self in his or her room.
-refusing to eat
-not joining friends in group activities
-withdrawing from the group
-simply keeping to one's self
These are usually efforts to get the offending party to make amends, and if these behaviors do not work, one might choose to escalate them - foot stomping, door slamming, and muttering, for example.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampo[/url]
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[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Quote - The Female of the species is deadlier than the Male
There may be many reasons for the way she acted, e.g.
She met someone else at the party.
She was a bad girl at the party.
Someone told her something about you.
Then again there could be no rational reason whatsoever, who knows??
The only wise words I can offer are -
Do not take any notice.
Do not take it to heart.
Do not take any crap.
Do not stop looking for a better one.
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]Yes I know the female of the spicies is deadlier.
The looking for a better one has started. LOL
Thanks for the advice.
Wizard
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while you in Manila....
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]I should have seen it coming, she kept asking if she could bring a sister or cousin on the ferry to meet me in Cebu. I figured I had a few open days to spend with her in Manila and I would only have to pay for her airfare.
She now has to pay for her way back and her cousin that flew in with her is paying her own way.
There is Harrison mall just a few blocks away, I think I will grab something to eat and check out the offerings.[/QUOTE]
you should check out Edsa, its near your place..go there around 7pm and shop shop :D
Hmmm...raining here....hope Im soon well and can go shopping again..:D
Happy trip
Blink
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thats their style/game
[QUOTE=Wizard561]Any wise words on this one, your having a conversation earlier in the afternoon all is great and laughing etc. Call them in the evening great still laughing. They go to a birthday party have a few drinks and text you so I call and the conversation just keeps going down hill and it finishes with I dont want to talk to you.
The next day well I will tell you later today.
Wizard[/QUOTE]
Like 50/50 says, ignore it, that happens all the time, also the so called nobody-loves-me-huhuhuhuhuuhu-txt once or twice a month, thats also normal...Pinays like to talk about feelings, send her a txt about ur inner deep feelings, how ur heart hurts etc etc like this shit , you will be suprised bout the feedback...They response to this shit :D...all the other locals do the same bs and the gurls go for it, well, I should say all the male locals have all the time in the world, cause no job :D and nothing to domthen txting bullshit :D
Happy txting
Blink
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Kid in a Candy Store
[QUOTE=Amavida]Asawa ko & I got asked to officiate at a Miss Philippines beauty pageant in the province last nite. Was this married man salivating over these honeys? You betch your ass he was!
Asawa ko & all the women made great sport of teasing me. It was very nice having gorgeous young women playfully hanging all over me I can tell you.:D[/QUOTE]
Like a kid in a candy store with diabetes.
Slim
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Too Jaded For TV
[QUOTE=Meluvulongtime]Being an american born meztiso visiting the PI for first time, I asked my uncle, the mayor, to give me advice for visiting the P. I. He said "trust no one, and the girls just want your money. " I took that advice to heart and have only been scammed by cousin who I "loaned" money to. I have learned that loan means gift. LOL.
Melluvulongtime[/QUOTE]
Dude I have been here only 5 months and I am already becoming the angry bitter expat. The cheating, double pricing always worried about thieves. The 1000 tales of woe and in most times its bullshit. Then I deal with something daily that a lot of you don't. I am black. Daily there is a stupid comment made about skin.
One girl told my ole lady while we were getting our hair did oh he is not that black some of the black guys look scary. I use to love Filipinos and their culture when I came on short visits but now I don't know what the fuck I feel.
Went to bathroom while in a Cebu mall and behold no toliet tissue lucky I checked before I did the deed or I would have been "Assed Out" as we say in the hood. In a western establishment that would have been unacceptable. The guy said there is none because they steal it. What the fuck?
Dubai where I earn my pesos plenty of Filipinos here also but they don't smile to you. It’s rare when I see them with a foreign guy. I feel a lot of them are fake ass hell in their actions and thoughts. Guys Asia is not heaven. Western nations and people worked their asses off to build those technological and societal marvels let not walk away from them for pussy. I would probably leave never to return if it wasn't for my girl damn I hate their visa restrictions bull.
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Getting Angry...
D'Etat struck a real chord with me. It's easy, if you live here, to walk around with a molten core of anger inside all the time. It's not only the scamming, though there is that. There's also the constant, grinding poverty. The filth. The utter stupidity with which some things are organized. The endless corruption at every level of society. The futility of the place. The lack of hope. All of that and more. If those feelings aren't at least evenly balanced by other factors, be it pussy availability, friends, the lifestyle you can maintain here for far less than in the West, then there's not much reason--in my opinion--to stay.
GE
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Its TV Dude
[QUOTE=D Etat]Dude I have been here only 5 months and I am already becoming the angry bitter expat. The cheating, double pricing always worried about thieves. The 1000 tales of woe and in most times its bullshit. Then I deal with something daily that a lot of you don't. I am black. Daily there is a stupid comment made about skin.[/quote]D. T.
I have to agree about the racism towards blacks in PI. My cousins believe that all blacks are in jail or should be. I think it is the western media where all they see is black stereotypes. I have had to explain to my cousins that I know black doctors and the vice president of our local college is black and that blacks are like anyone else, there are good and bad guys, but they do not looked convinced when I tell them. I love visiting for the poon tang, but there is no way I would want to live there with the hassles and ignorance. I think I have a love/hate attitude with the PI, but for me, all the young girls who are willing to bonk a middle aged man like myslelf makes it worth it.
Meluvulongtime
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Wow..So much anger and frustation ..Detat...I'm in the same league..from India.and when i first came here..people used to call me just 5-6, 5-6...
I just couldn't figure out what that means..untill after a week in Paseo..a good filipino dude.told me that most indians here do money lending business and they lend with 5-6% interest rate and its considered bad in their culture.
I was descriminated for a week based on my nationality, one girl after seeing me in SM mall for a meet up after yahoo chat, just ran away saying i was dark. :)
But persistance pays...as the days went..i became more familier and mostly i went to bars and malls..so the second time...it became all cool.
I was never descriminated or treated badly the second time where ever i went...I guess it is the vibe of the place...that has to get you..once you get familer with the area..you are just one of them.
I never had any issues with any place and felt like a king, the second time i went there.
Filipinos are really very friendly people...we just have to break the first meeting barrier..
As far as cheating and thugging around..well, all i can say is...its everywhere...the government in every country cheat 30 to 40 % in tax money Plus other taxes...
I never paid my taxes to those political thugs ..which are bigger than getting short changed by taxi drivers and mamasans...I never cared if they overcharged me...cos ..by calculation it is still only 10 to 15% of all the money they could top up than the tax i had to pay..
and the interesting thing is...the more you become familier with the place and people, the lesser you get cheated.
I don't thing i was ever cheated in the philiphines by that degree...cos i got a lot more more more than what i would ever ever get back home in India :D
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[QUOTE=AussieOverboard]Sounds Like Tampo to me
Tampo is usually manifested in the withdrawal of affectionate or cheerful behavior, and its expression is almost entirely nonverbal. These manifestations include:
-resisting expressions of affection
-not talking to the person concerned, or to people in general
-being unusually quiet
-locking one's self in his or her room.
-refusing to eat
-not joining friends in group activities
-withdrawing from the group
-simply keeping to one's self
These are usually efforts to get the offending party to make amends, and if these behaviors do not work, one might choose to escalate them - foot stomping, door slamming, and muttering, for example.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampo[/url][/QUOTE]I will remember Tampo, sounds like a painful process.
Well update spoke to her again told her to look through her old texts come back in about 5 minutes apologising profusely,
Women dont get them at all, but my fun and searching for a replacement is going great on DiA.
Thanks for the answers guys.
Wizard
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If you can't be happy here in the philippines there is something seriously wrong with you. You are more than welcome to go back to the fat assed western women. It just means more filipina pussy for me.
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hmmm....
Hi to all,
reading your recent post and all I can say is, Im happy towork in the Philippines, so I have something to do during the day. I live in a nice area, with good security on the 21st floor and quite noise free. After work IM so tired I just drink sm light or red whine or both and that was it..if Im tired I cant be angry. So I suggest drink more and then PI aint that bad any more :D, try to take things with humor. Buy ear plugs so you safe about the noise buses, jeeps, etc..Try to get back at the lifestyle you had at home, sleep long, work, weekends go out and have fun. Im allmost evry weekend out in the province, like Angeles city or some beach, but more in Angeles city I have to confess :D..I know how it is to be angry, dealing with idiots evry day hehehehehe....shit now I need a SM light to calm down and later a nice massage with happening, which reminds me on my question in Makati thread. anybody out therer who can give an update about makati massage parlours?? thanks..
Take it easy, drink more, fxxck more!!
Blink
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Happy
[QUOTE=Blazepontaine]If you can't be happy here in the philippines there is something seriously wrong with you. You are more than welcome to go back to the fat assed western women. It just means more filipina pussy for me.[/QUOTE]
What makes you happy? Everyone has or knows something that makes them happy. A country where probably millions of young women strapped for cash sale themselves to highest bidder most likely ignorant of the dangers(stds crazy partners) in her mist as most Filipinas are nah that doesn't make me happy.
A country where people view you only as walking atm and not as a damn human being. Country so corrupt from top to bottom you avoid the police like the plague when you see them. Look I don't like to shit on no country and I don't like to praise no country 100 percent either. No country is perfect but as I said the Philippines is not paradise.
Its simply a place of extreme financial desperation that people from wealthy countries including ME exploit. I first came to the PI at 22 2004 I was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor then. I couldn't believe the amount of attention I was getting but it wasn't me it was my wallet. I thought Filipinas just loved foreigners. 2005 brought new found wealth and Dubai. Plenty of filipinas and plenty foreigners but they are with their own the difference? They have employment oppertunities.
Are all the women in the west fat? I just came from USA didn't notice. :)
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Race etc.
It is interesting to see the flip side of the coin from guys like Etat and Born Loser. Yeah, we all know about the dark skin aversion, most of this is on themselves. Why these gorgeous brown skinned honeys like to lighten up is beyond me.
Just an aside though, most of the Black guys I have seen here, including a few full time expats say they opposite, yeah the skin color thing is a factor, but not much of one, most I know and see do quite well. The Phils can "read" your attitude, if you got one...beleive me, they will smell it on you. Same thing for the "Bumbai" (our Indian friends) Most of the girls Don't like them when they see them, think they are Arabs (the kiss of death) when they find out your are a Bumbai they soften, seen a few dudes(student age) here who do quite well.
Ugly Batards like myself are considered "handsome' (The SH is ANYTHING BUT)
mostly coz of my white skin and green eyes. Wife Brags im "White like a pig" all over...go figure.
Spam hog
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Chill out
What does it tell you about a country when most of the natives can't wait to get away? Last person to leave please turn out the lights.
The place is really an anarchic, disorganised, corrupt, third world shithole but if you stay here a reasonably, long period of time, you sure learn patience, tolerance and self control. I have. Its either that or go barmy.
When things get too much retreat to your deluxe air con flat/house, open a beer, play some gentle, relaxing music on your top of the line stereo system and think of the lovely, sweet young spinner you spent quality time with the previous day and the equally lovely brown beauties you will be seeing in the not too distant future. It will bring a smile to your face and improve your mood inordinately. GH
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D IET are you going blind??
[QUOTE=D Etat]Are all the women in the west fat? I just came from USA didn't notice. :)[/QUOTE]
The USA ?? Used to be the Land of Opportunity, now commonly known as the Land of Obesity.
Look at the movie ""Supersize me'' and think again about going to McDs for another 1/4 Pounder :)
Cheers, F/Fifty
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Morals or Hygiene?
[QUOTE=Blackangst]No need to get defensive :) I dont have a problem with it, I just think its kinda funny is all. Like I said, I enjoy your posts and to each their own :) I do think its funny when you say "for safety reasons"...how about HER safety? Or is that irrelevant?[/QUOTE]Its cool B. Yes a girls safety is very important to me. I'd be mortified to give a woman a disease.
Never had a social disease & hopefully never will.
In the same way if I accidently get a girl pregnant I make sure that the 'problem' is taken care of. Costs around P25,000 - P30,000 all in all so there is a financial incentive not to get them prego as well as the health & moral questions.
AV
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Beauty pageants
[QUOTE=Nvslim]Like a kid in a candy store with diabetes.
Slim[/QUOTE]Hehehehe :D love that turn of phrase slim!
AV
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Jealous wives
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]I chuckle when a fellow member, married and living with a Pinay and in the Philippines, claims to be drowning in pussy. I know them, been there, got the t-shirt (but dare not wear it) and can tell you that the truth is usually very different. Filipina's are jealous, possessive animals who like to keep their men (particularly if that mans a Kano) on a shortish leash. So pursuit of a 'bit of skirt' is possible but a devious and furtive undertaking worthy of a CIA field operative. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either a dreamer or very fortunate.
So A, I believe you must be one lucky muther but don't make me take a polygraph :)[/QUOTE]G'day G, just catching up on posts. Yes I agree with you fully, I am one lucky muther. Pinay's wives know the score & they are not stupid!!
I travel about the Phils & Internationally on business & so I have the opportunity/temptation to get amongst the pussy a fair bit. Living & owning business's here means I go along with local customs. Its common here for better off married business men to have GF's. Asawa ko would never sanction it outright but she knows the score. She does'nt like it but what can she do?
Yes, as you say I must conduct myself with forethought & make use of every trick I can think of to avoid problems. I keep my activities simple & safe to make sure things go smooth & by the numbers. That includes avoiding lying eg. when Im in Angeles or Cebu or whatever It's part of my known travel itinerary. Much better to keep it simple & be upfront than tripping yourself up in ever more complicated lies.
In my business life I must spend time 'relationship building' with married asian/filipino clients, being dragged to KTV's with them to watch them debauch themselves with girls. I act like a saint always so that the bamboo telegraph sends back reassuring signals to listening ears. When Im with GF's I make sure Im alone & I can do what I like.
I can't see my self doing this forever as it requires much more stealth than the local businessmen because no matter how long I live here I will always be a 'foreigner' and not subject to exactly the same rules.
AV
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Tampo
[QUOTE=AussieOverboard]Sounds Like Tampo to me
Tampo is usually manifested in the withdrawal of affectionate or cheerful behavior, and its expression is almost entirely nonverbal. These are usually efforts to get the offending party to make amends, and if these behaviors do not work, one might choose to escalate them - foot stomping, door slamming, and muttering, for example.[/QUOTE]In northern Australia this is called 'going troppo'. Just a little trivia... One of the attributes I look for in m spouse/GF's is happy even temperament, histrionic bitches get the flick by me instantly!
AV
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James Bond
Any of you married guys out there use Apple laptop's?
Do you realise that if you video chat with iChat that you can superimpose any background you like behind your image with the click of a button? Comes in VERY handy when video chatting to asawa ko from places you are not supposed to be ;)
Did you know you can create a Skype account using a telephone number as the username? Very handy for sending txt messages from a country you are not supposed to be in. When sending a txt or making a call through Skype the Skype username shows up as the the caller ID ;)
Here's another tip, get your asawa out of using direct txt messaging & switch over to sending Yahoo IM's via txt on your CP. You tell asawa ko the rationale is its much cheaper (it is), the payoff is the txt's are not location traceable. ;)
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]In northern Australia this is called 'going troppo'. Just a little trivia... One of the attributes I look for in m spouse/GF's is happy even temperament, histrionic bitches get the flick by me instantly!
AV[/QUOTE]AV, trust me "going troppo" is different and not gender specific, however it seems that banana benders are slightly different just like taswegians.
Thanks for the advice.
Wizard
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5-6
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Wow..So much anger and frustation ..Detat...I'm in the same league..from India.and when i first came here..people used to call me just 5-6, 5-6...
I just couldn't figure out what that means..untill after a week in Paseo..a good filipino dude.told me that most indians here do money lending business and they lend with 5-6% interest rate and its considered bad in their culture.
I was descriminated for a week based on my nationality, one girl after seeing me in SM mall for a meet up after yahoo chat, just ran away saying i was dark. :)
But persistance pays...as the days went..i became more familier and mostly i went to bars and malls..so the second time...it became all cool.
I was never descriminated or treated badly the second time where ever i went...I guess it is the vibe of the place...that has to get you..once you get familer with the area..you are just one of them.
I never had any issues with any place and felt like a king, the second time i went there.
Filipinos are really very friendly people...we just have to break the first meeting barrier..
As far as cheating and thugging around..well, all i can say is...its everywhere...the government in every country cheat 30 to 40 % in tax money Plus other taxes...
I never paid my taxes to those political thugs ..which are bigger than getting short changed by taxi drivers and mamasans...I never cared if they overcharged me...cos ..by calculation it is still only 10 to 15% of all the money they could top up than the tax i had to pay..
and the interesting thing is...the more you become familier with the place and people, the lesser you get cheated.
I don't thing i was ever cheated in the philiphines by that degree...cos i got a lot more more more than what i would ever ever get back home in India :D[/QUOTE]
5-6% interest? erm ....I've talked to my wife about this (she's pinay), and have actually looked into starting a 5-6 business via brother in law...5-6 means you borrow 5 pay back 6. So 500/600, 5000/6000, etc. It's like a payday loan...not sure where your friend got the 5-6% thing from.
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5-6
[QUOTE=Blackangst]5-6% interest? erm ....I've talked to my wife about this (she's pinay), and have actually looked into starting a 5-6 business via brother in law...5-6 means you borrow 5 pay back 6. So 500/600, 5000/6000, etc. It's like a payday loan...not sure where your friend got the 5-6% thing from.[/QUOTE]
The use of the % sign might have thrown some confusion in there. At any rate, it sounds like a good business on the surface, but there's a reason for the high interest: the loans are risky, these are people who have no other way to borrow the money they need so the lender may need to get serious (possible understatement there) with some borrowers in order to enforce repayment. Not to mention possible conflict with competing lenders. So naturally the lenders are disliked, if not hated. This isn't limited to the Phils by the way, shark lenders have been around in various forms around the world.
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5-6
That's the second oldest profession in the world
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Password the Laptop
[QUOTE=D Etat]Too many women in PI to put up with bullshit like that.[/QUOTE]I agree. Far too many in PI but it will take a long time to train another.
If I put password protect on the laptop, she might turn violent and destroy my laptop and other goodies.
I've seen their chats and also he has mentioned the board.
I might try to hide my video cam and tape her reaction if I put a password to limit her activity on my Laptop. At least the tape will hold up as evidence.
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The Zip Code Rule
[QUOTE=Amavida]G'day G, just catching up on posts. Yes I agree with you fully, I am one lucky muther. Pinay's wives know the score & they are not stupid!!
I travel about the Phils & Internationally on business & so I have the opportunity/temptation to get amongst the pussy a fair bit. Living & owning business's here means I go along with local customs. Its common here for better off married business men to have GF's. Asawa ko would never sanction it outright but she knows the score. She does'nt like it but what can she do?
Yes, as you say I must conduct myself with forethought & make use of every trick I can think of to avoid problems. I keep my activities simple & safe to make sure things go smooth & by the numbers. That includes avoiding lying eg. when Im in Angeles or Cebu or whatever It's part of my known travel itinerary. Much better to keep it simple & be upfront than tripping yourself up in ever more complicated lies.
In my business life I must spend time 'relationship building' with married asian/filipino clients, being dragged to KTV's with them to watch them debauch themselves with girls. I act like a saint always so that the bamboo telegraph sends back reassuring signals to listening ears. When Im with GF's I make sure Im alone & I can do what I like.
I can't see my self doing this forever as it requires much more stealth than the local businessmen because no matter how long I live here I will always be a 'foreigner' and not subject to exactly the same rules.
AV[/QUOTE]
My position is similar, at least in terms of travel and living here. My cardinal rule, and one that's served me well over the years is never to mess around in your own zip code. So simple that it's elegant, and it works. The sequel to this rule is, when outside of your zip code, go alone on your forays for pussy. If you're in a town where few know who you are, and you're by yourself when hunting, the chances of the bamboo telegraph registering your presence are almost nil. The corollary to the sequel is indulge only in P4P, where there's no possibility of any sort of emotional entanglement as it's a straight commercial transaction with zero real personal information exchanged.
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Zip Code
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]My position is similar, at least in terms of travel and living here. My cardinal rule, and one that's served me well over the years is never to mess around in your own zip code. [/QUOTE]
GE you hit the nail on the head. When I was in Uncle Sam's Royal Army I work for an old colonel who was a really cool guy. I got caught with a lady in my BOQ room and he told me, "If you are going to fuck around, get 50 miles from the flag pole".
I took it to heart and still do that.
ES
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A nice Pair ??
[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike].....I've seen their chats and also he has mentioned the board.....[/QUOTE]
Nice Screenshots of what looks like a pair of old c*nts to me ;)
One suggestion - Dump her, as soon as you can.
Cheers, F/Fifty
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[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike]I agree. Far too many in PI but it will take a long time to train another.
If I put password protect on the laptop, she might turn violent and destroy my laptop and other goodies.
I've seen their chats and also he has mentioned the board.
I might try to hide my video cam and tape her reaction if I put a password to limit her activity on my Laptop. At least the tape will hold up as evidence.[/QUOTE]
I'm confused how did you manage to capture screen shots unless you were there to do it? How is it possible?
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]My position is similar, at least in terms of travel and living here. My cardinal rule, and one that's served me well over the years is never to mess around in your own zip code. So simple that it's elegant, and it works. The sequel to this rule is, when outside of your zip code, go alone on your forays for pussy. If you're in a town where few know who you are, and you're by yourself when hunting, the chances of the bamboo telegraph registering your presence are almost nil. The corollary to the sequel is indulge only in P4P, where there's no possibility of any sort of emotional entanglement as it's a straight commercial transaction with zero real personal information exchanged.[/QUOTE]
Great advice GE. One thing that I would add that I don't do..."Dip my pen into company ink!".
Robb
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[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike]I agree. Far too many in PI but it will take a long time to train another. If I put password protect on the laptop, she might turn violent and destroy my laptop and other goodies. I've seen their chats and also he has mentioned the board. I might try to hide my video cam and tape her reaction if I put a password to limit her activity on my Laptop. At least the tape will hold up as evidence.[/QUOTE]I would just ask her if she is doing it and if she denies it, show her what you have shown us. Good luck!
Robb
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Keylogger
[QUOTE=Bilbo Baggins]I'm confused how did you manage to capture screen shots unless you were there to do it? How is it possible?[/QUOTE]I installed a keylogger program 2 years ago and it will take a screen shot every minute that the computer is active. If heavy usage, it will take 25MB of pictures in a 8 hour day.
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find another one
[QUOTE=Cowboy Mike]I installed a keylogger program 2 years ago and it will take a screen shot every minute that the computer is active. If heavy usage, it will take 25MB of pictures in a 8 hour day.[/QUOTE]
Find another one, then dump her, or better, move to the Philippines for a while, look around and then get to know a better gurl, stay away from those yahoo scam chatter or frienster plastic friends collector..
Many fishs in the sea....
Happy hunting
Blink
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Yea, great advice.
But remember the internet does not have ZIP codes. I don't know how these girls do it, but they find out if you talk to other girls on the net. Its amazing.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Great advice GE. One thing that I would add that I don't do..."Dip my pen into company ink!".
Robb[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Finrod]The use of the % sign might have thrown some confusion in there. At any rate, it sounds like a good business on the surface, but there's a reason for the high interest: the loans are risky, these are people who have no other way to borrow the money they need so the lender may need to get serious (possible understatement there) with some borrowers in order to enforce repayment. Not to mention possible conflict with competing lenders. So naturally the lenders are disliked, if not hated. This isn't limited to the Phils by the way, shark lenders have been around in various forms around the world.[/QUOTE]
You ever wonder where the mamasans make their money?
It is working the 5/6 on their stables.
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[QUOTE=FireWalker]Yea, great advice.
But remember the internet does not have ZIP codes. I don't know how these girls do it, but they find out if you talk to other girls on the net. Its amazing.[/QUOTE]
No they don't. They just assume, given that all men are players, that you're talking to other girls. They're making an assumption and it's usually correct.
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Pilippinoes verses Thais
I know this has been thrashed out before but having been in LOS for three years I am trying a 24 year old Philli girl. Bringing her to LOS by getting her a ticket via Cebu Pacific. I've doubled checked her story. She says she will do anything from domestic to bedroom services and she seems level headed,and sensible, working voluntary for a childrens special care unit. I know the Thai girl mentality but could someone tell me what the main bad traits of the Philli are to watch out for?
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]No they don't. They just assume, given that all men are players, that you're talking to other girls. They're making an assumption and it's usually correct.[/QUOTE]You're dead right GE. By the time a woman reaches 18 here her attitudes/beliefs have been formed by :
1) Exposure to bahavior of working class Pinoy males eg. totally untrustworthy
and
2) Pinay folklore eg. all foreigners have big Titi's (penis's) that hurt etc, all foreigners are rich, any foreigner already travelled to asia has been in Thailand with prostitutes.
AV
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2 photos
Kinda sad tale
Some of you may remeber my mention of a GF from Tagbiliran whom i had visited a few times called "Irish'. Really lovely girl, never asked for a dime & never appeared to be desperate husband hunter. Today she suddenly tells me she is in love & moving to Thailand to be with here 'fiance'.
This is totally out of left field but when i get a look at her 'fiance' i going into mild shock & think 'oh god irish how could you..'
These girls never fail to surprise..
I wonder which one of the two is getting more conned..
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Some of you may remeber my mention of a GF from Tagbiliran whom i had visited a few times called "Irish'. Really lovely girl, never asked for a dime & never appeared to be desperate husband hunter. Today she suddenly tells me she is in love & moving to Thailand to be with here 'fiance'.
This is totally out of left field but when i get a look at her 'fiance' i going into mild shock & think 'oh god irish how could you..'
These girls never fail to surprise..
I wonder which one of the two is getting more conned..
AV[/QUOTE]
Well she gets a rich farang to live with and escapes the grinding poverty of the Philippines and he gets a hot young sexy girl to fulfill all his fantasies for the few good years he has left. Sounds like a win win situation for both of them.
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My hat is off to the guy. Congratulations. I hope when I am his age, I can score a cute little thing too.
At least in a situation like that, there are no false promises, and you know she won't be getting her head slammed against the headboard 5 times a day. Good choice for both of them.
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But sad for who?
[QUOTE=Amavida]Some of you may remeber my mention of a GF from Tagbiliran whom i had visited a few times called "Irish'. Really lovely girl, never asked for a dime & never appeared to be desperate husband hunter. Today she suddenly tells me she is in love & moving to Thailand to be with here 'fiance'.
This is totally out of left field but when i get a look at her 'fiance' i going into mild shock & think 'oh god irish how could you..'
These girls never fail to surprise..
I wonder which one of the two is getting more conned..
AV[/QUOTE]
Probably saddest for you as you will no longer have the pleasure of her company. I reckon a fairly high percentage of Pinay maids are actively looking for an 'Amerikano' Prince Charming to take them away from it all. Odd that her rescuer lives in Thailand. Call me a cynical old twat but I'd have thought there would have been enough eligible totty in LOS without importing from PI. Sort of like taking coal to Newcastle.
'Irish' - what sort of name is that for a dusky beauty. The Philippines is the world centre of daft names. Met a Tawny the other day and I've lost count of the number of 'Bongs' and 'Boys' I've encountered. GH
P.S AV - Couldn't you make your pictures a bit smaller - they are overwhelming! Don't you know that many mongers suffer from eye strain :D
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I Just Posted....Not Hating But Saying Though....
[QUOTE=Amavida]Some of you may remeber my mention of a GF from Tagbiliran whom i had visited a few times called "Irish'. Really lovely girl, never asked for a dime & never appeared to be desperate husband hunter. Today she suddenly tells me she is in love & moving to Thailand to be with here 'fiance'.
This is totally out of left field but when i get a look at her 'fiance' i going into mild shock & think 'oh god irish how could you..'
These girls never fail to surprise..
I wonder which one of the two is getting more conned..
AV[/QUOTE]
AV remember I posted something like this a about a month ago. Same thing happened to me. My ex found a older guy who took her to New York where she now resides as a child day care worker. Looking at this guy I see why he came to PI. It saddens me sometimes that economic desperation drives these girls to this. Last I talked her she say the guy was treating her bad. Only calls her when he wants food and pussy she said she had ran away from him two times but had no where to go. She wasn't sending money back to her family in PI because her brother would pop up on yahoo messenger asking me for pesos remembering my gentle heart four years ago :) (Heart Black as Coal Now).
I have been to real crazy countries in my short life Three years In Afghanistan (Islamic Country) to name one and PI is the only one I have seen with that amount of economic desperation. I started to ask myself is PI that damn bad? I live here and I complain about the short comings but I lived in First world countries my whole life (In Afghanistan inside American Compounds) it seem that a local with a little bit of cash would be alright but hell even the girls with a little dough want to flee the scene.
The *****s and the quote and quote good girls all need a loan (a non repayable one) at some point in knowing them in my experiences. I wish the guy and the girl the best but damn....The economic factor in this country really scars my mental its like capitalism on Shabu.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Probably saddest for you as you will no longer have the pleasure of her company. I reckon a fairly high percentage of Pinay maids are actively looking for an 'Amerikano' Prince Charming to take them away from it all. Odd that her rescuer lives in Thailand. Call me a cynical old twat but I'd have thought there would have been enough eligible totty in LOS without importing from PI. Sort of like taking coal to Newcastle.
'Irish' - what sort of name is that for a dusky beauty. The Philippines is the world centre of daft names. Met a Tawny the other day and I've lost count of the number of 'Bongs' and 'Boys' I've encountered. GH
P.S AV - Couldn't you make your pictures a bit smaller - they are overwhelming! Don't you know that many mongers suffer from eye strain :D[/QUOTE]
They say Filipinos have two dreams one to go Boracay the other to America. I can't believe the amount of them who ask me to get them pregnant. I think they are smoking shabu or something?
A guy who lives in LOS goes to PI to look for love and ass? Is it just me or something just doesn't add up?
I took sand to the beach when I moved here with my ole lady but her visa ran out from Japan and I plan on "thugging" with her to the end but...what the fuck do you call taking a girl from PI to Thailand we need a new saying?
Kill (pussy) at will
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Suspicious
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Call me a cynical old twat but I'd have thought there would have been enough eligible totty in LOS without importing from PI. Sort of like taking coal to Newcastle.[/QUOTE]Yeah Im worried for her, she is so trusting & like you say it is very suss that this ancient old geezer is living in LOS.. very suss indeed. Oh well I will never know because I made it clear to her that i wished her well but don't come knocking with a sad story later.
AV
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I am shocked!;)
[quote]These girls never fail to surprise.
I wonder which one of the two is getting more conned.
AV[/QUOTE]Wow. Young hottie goes for old geezer is surprising? . You mean when the young hotties tell me my middle-aged self is so guapo they are trying to con me? (Actually I am considered somewhat handsome by some because I am a tall light skinned meztiso and in great shape for my ancient 49 years) Come on gentlemen, we go to the PI precisely because of the young tang available to us "old" guys. After 6 visits to maledisneyland nothing surprises me. Actually I like the craziness, it is very entertaining.
Meluvulongtime
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TAking totty to LOS
Ok continuing this weird thread I have a chat friend (who I know a few readers have pronged). Anyways she told me other day she was off on a trip to BKK. To see an English chatmate. She was a little wary of going as she thought he was looking for a Thai/Pinay threesome but she still went as shes bored in Phils. Normal girl who doesnt work.
Asked her how it was when she got back. Said was boring. Guy was sleeping. Guy only wanted sex when lights were off and curtain closed.
Begs the question. Whats the point of paying for Pinay when Thai is so readily availalble. And if your going to pay to take it there. Why not enjoy it!
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Didn't you say she was a banker or something? Maybe I'm mixing up Tagbiliran and Tacliban. Did you ever do a field report on either place?
Anyway, thanks for the nude picture of someone's fiance ...as well as the fiance.
Wow, hope AV didn't gather too much bad karma on this one.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Some of you may remeber my mention of a GF from Tagbiliran whom i had visited a few times called "Irish'. Really lovely girl, never asked for a dime & never appeared to be desperate husband hunter. Today she suddenly tells me she is in love & moving to Thailand to be with here 'fiance'.
This is totally out of left field but when i get a look at her 'fiance' i going into mild shock & think 'oh god irish how could you..'
These girls never fail to surprise..
I wonder which one of the two is getting more conned..
AV[/QUOTE]
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A Tale Of Two Women
One is a nurse who complains constantly about her financial problems everytime she meets me online. In a subtle way asked her whats up with a liitle bit of romance she went round the bush and over that mutha fucker.
Prositute I met in Cebu looks for me online sends little messages never asks about money or talks about her finanical situation. Always tells how grateful she is that I helped her get back to Manila and promises to let me have her way with her when I return....
In Asia the lines are blurred....
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[QUOTE=D Etat]
Prositute I met in Cebu looks for me online sends little messages never asks about money or talks about her finanical situation. Always tells how grateful she is that I helped her get back to Manila and promises to let me have her way with her when I return....
In Asia the lines are blurred....[/QUOTE]
I think your a marked man now, she is not after your money, she is after your heart. I have had my own troubles with bargirls falling inlove with me, just because she does not ask you for money doesn't mean she doesn't want something from you.
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Translation please
[QUOTE=D Etat] ... a liitle bit of romance she went round the bush and over that mutha fucker.
[/QUOTE]
Hi D'Etat .. know its probably just all street talk (don't speak that lingo) and all but sometimes I would like to know WTF your talking about?
Perhaps an appended glosssary might be useful - google doesn't provide a translator from street jive/English :D GH
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D Etat's New Book....D Etat For Numbskulls
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Hi D'Etat .. know its probably just all street talk (don't speak that lingo) and all but sometimes I would like to know WTF your talking about?
Perhaps an appended glosssary might be useful - google doesn't provide a translator from street jive/English :D GH[/QUOTE]
I asked in a polite exquisite manner would she be inclined to let me sample her oral and vaginal area since she is always looking for financial assistance as I don’t believe in a free meal and she became shocked and tried to change the topic of discussion immediately.
Is that better?
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[QUOTE=D Etat]I asked in a polite exquisite manner would she be inclined to let me sample her oral and vaginal area since she is always looking for financial assistance as I don’t believe in a free meal and she became shocked and tried to change the topic of discussion immediately.
Is that better?[/QUOTE]
Right I think that I got it. You wanted to fuck her, but she didn't want you to fuck her but instead wanted to fuck you (over). Is that it?
Cheers Numbskull
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Yep
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Right I think that I got it. You wanted to fuck her, but she didn't want you to fuck her but instead wanted to fuck you (over). Is that it?
Cheers Numbskull[/QUOTE]
You got it covered...:) Wasn't calling you a NS GH even though it’s a term of endearment in hip hop circles (etymology is a person that doesn't understand a term or style). I said she went around the bush you know "Beating around the Bush" Back to the task most of the so call good girls have came off this way; don't know?
Her latest and Greatest :Taken From Yahoo
hi my name
hope your good in there
im planning to sell my fon to the pawnshop coz i really dont know where to get money to pay for my rent
before i went home
but i guess it is still not enough
even if ill sell it to the pawnshop
ill just get a couple of hundred peso
i understand why my parents cant send because they send my sister to college
a lot of payments to pay for for my sis college
Still no word yet on is her top and bottom is available.
For GH: Top and Bottom = Mouth and Pussy
:)
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They Are People All Different But Here Are Some...
[QUOTE=Ham Yai]I know this has been thrashed out before but having been in LOS for three years I am trying a 24 year old Philli girl. Bringing her to LOS by getting her a ticket via Cebu Pacific. I've doubled checked her story. She says she will do anything from domestic to bedroom services and she seems level headed,and sensible, working voluntary for a childrens special care unit. I know the Thai girl mentality but could someone tell me what the main bad traits of the Philli are to watch out for?[/QUOTE]
Unstableness. If she shows a temper get rid of her pronto. Jealousy. Neat freak. Most will feed you until you burst. Wasteful with your money and theirs loves bareback and insist on it if they really like you :) All can think of right now.
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Don't they just make your steely old heart bleed ? Guess its just a matter of time before she offers you top and bottom, maybe even front and back as well.
Is 'Beating about the Bush' a subliminal desire to beat the fuck out of your glorious 43rd. I imagine some Brits would like to join you in that endeavor:) GH
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Unstableness. If she shows a temper get rid of her pronto. Jealousy. Neat freak. [/QUOTE]Cripes, I was a day late and a dollar short in reading this bit of advice! I had a gal contact me from DAI, 23 a nurse, staying in Pasig City. Her hometown was Davao City. VERY exotic, cute, and sexy. (I'm a bit younger, 35, caught a case of yellow fever, fed up with the plethora of cows here in the U. S). She was staying in a studio-apartment, with her own laptop and was online ALL the time. (she was the breadwinner of her family yet she had no job) She would email me 2-3 times a day, sometimes she would send me sexy pics of her wearing bra and panties, send me I'm's while I was at work, and confess she has strong feeling and love for me. One time she caught my profile was online on DAI and got so angry she told me she hated me and hoped I believed in karma LOL
Against my better judgement, I said what the heck I'll go down and see her. I booked a room at the Hyatt Casino. Everything was great the first night (I arrived late), we had sex the first 30 minutes I was there. She was hot but this gal. Kept talking and looking at me during sex! Kept saying, "cum inside me! " or "you're gonna cum huh? " or "you're getting tired! ". She was tighter than heck, but her behavior was odd to say the least.
The next day everything was great, we shopped, had sex, goofed around, slept. Then she dropped the hammer. She started working her two cell phones (is this common? ) and then asked me if I would fly with her back to her hometown in Davao, she said she HAD to go to her good friend's B-day party. Gee thanks for telling me before I came out. I told her I was tired from flying and declined. She stayed with me, but I could tell her mood was slowly turning 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
More reasons why I didn't want to go to Davao right away (although I would have visited for a few days toward the end of my trip) 1. She had MANY gay friends on her friendster (one dude on her friendster profile had a caption- my defender, my manager, my true fren) 2. Very few pics of her family, apparently her parents both did not work. 3. I just didn't know what I would have gotten myself into if I was there for a long time (I was to be there for a week and a half)
The next night was a disaster, she was texting on her cell nonstop and acting like I did not exist and all the while many beautiful girls were amongst me! (we ate in the Greenbelt area)
Then her behavior really soured, some examples:
Was extremely irritable, snapped at the slightest "infraction".
1. Insulted me over silly things. Then later on asked me if she was mean to me, LOL.
2. Immediately after sex, she demanded to see my cell phone-she wanted to see texts and contact lists, looked at them and got angry.
3. After sex, she told me she felt like she hated me. Then as she laid there would ask for me to hug her
4. Went to get some food with her still sleeping, she then snooped and looked at all my emails on my laptop. Then got angry. Finally left to her friend's house
When she left I was relieved, yet somewhat bummed out that the whole thing didn't work. It was MY mistake for not having other gals lined up. I did hook up with a male friend and he showed me a fishbowl place near Greenbelt (I highly reccomend this place! It's on the top floor of Roman Suites hotel). I decided to leave a few days early. She came back, but the damage was done. We had some decent times, but it was pretty much marred by her unstable moodswings.
Three weeks later, I get an email from her saying she is pregnant. I replied back asking her how does she know, but in her response she did not answer my questions, I'm inclined to think she was lying. Anyone have idea why she would lie about being pregnant?
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Tony you done dodged a bullet
Yep, you just met a scammer. Lemme guess, she doesn't have a job but she
has a lap top and "work" the net in bra and panties.
Sounds to me like that cell phone was real busy...two of 'em? Wow, she got the boys backed up asking where she is online while she's bonking you.
Wanted you to give her a free ride to Davao...yep.
Why would she lie about being pregnant? Man this is so easy, she wants money from you...lemme guess, the kid is yours coz you the only guy she ever bonked right? Yep.
So go ahead and give her money to take care of her pregnant self. Guarentee you in a few months she is gonna say she lost the baby, after all you didn't send her enough money for proper pre natal or something.
Spamhog
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Dont take sh*t
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]Cripes, I was a day late and a dollar short in reading this bit of advice! ........
Then her behavior really soured, some examples:
Was extremely irritable, snapped at the slightest "infraction".[/QUOTE]
Time to show her where the door is, after giving her the bus fare of course.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]1. Insulted me over silly things. Then later on asked me if she was mean to me, LOL.[/QUOTE]
Insulted you??? Ok throw her the bus fare then.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]2. Immediately after sex, she demanded to see my cell phone-she wanted to see texts and contact lists, looked at them and got angry.[/QUOTE]
Ok just forget the bus fare, show her the door.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]3. After sex, she told me she felt like she hated me. Then as she laid there would ask for me to hug her[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't have bothered to fuck her, just kick her out.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]4. Went to get some food with her still sleeping, she then snooped and looked at all my emails on my laptop. Then got angry. Finally left to her friend's house[/QUOTE]
Well eventually you could have saved the energy and the bus fare by kicking her out earlier then.
One question - Why bother, after all there are plenty more fish???
Cheers, F/Fifty
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano] "Cum inside me!"[/QUOTE] That should have made you wilt like a flower. Hope you didn't grant her request! :eek:
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[QUOTE=Amavida]2) Pinay folklore eg. all foreigners have big Titi's (penis's) that hurt etc, all foreigners are rich, any foreigner already travelled to asia has been in Thailand with prostitutes.
AV[/QUOTE]I was kinda offended at first, then I just realised I totally fit into the stereotype, LOL
Big dick - check
Rich foreigner - check
Been to thailand with hookers - check
I guess the folklore is correct.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]D'Etat struck a real chord with me. It's easy, if you live here, to walk around with a molten core of anger inside all the time. It's not only the scamming, though there is that. There's also the constant, grinding poverty. The filth. The utter stupidity with which some things are organized. The endless corruption at every level of society. The futility of the place. The lack of hope. All of that and more. If those feelings aren't at least evenly balanced by other factors, be it pussy availability, friends, the lifestyle you can maintain here for far less than in the West, then there's not much reason--in my opinion--to stay.
GE[/QUOTE]Could you guys who chose to live in a 3rd world craphole clear something up for me.- why? Is cheap pussy that important that you'd give up everything else?
I mean, you are giving up quite a lot when you leave the civilized world. I visit south east asia for biz and holiday trips, and it's fun for a few weeks, but living there permanently? With the polluted air and water, overcrowded filthy slums, useless and corrupt government, non-existant social services, crap healthcare, mafia-like police, petty crime, nepotism, laziness and incompetence. And what shits me the most. If you have a white face, you are viewed by everybody as a walking moneybag sucker, to be scammed and taken advantage of at every available opportunity.
I had the impression life is cheap in 3rd world, but actually you usually get what you pay for. It's cheap to live in filth. To get same quality of goods and services as I am used to back home, the cost is almost the same. Maybe 30% cheaper, no more than that.
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Vast Improvement On The Original
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Could you guys who chose to live in a 3rd world craphole clear something up for me.- why? Is cheap pussy that important that you'd give up everything else?
I mean, you are giving up quite a lot when you leave the civilized world. I visit south east asia for biz and holiday trips, and it's fun for a few weeks, but living there permanently? With the polluted air and water, overcrowded filthy slums, useless and corrupt government, non-existant social services, crap healthcare, mafia-like police, petty crime, nepotism, laziness and incompetence. And what shits me the most. If you have a white face, you are viewed by everybody as a walking moneybag sucker, to be scammed and taken advantage of at every available opportunity.
I had the impression life is cheap in 3rd world, but actually you usually get what you pay for. It's cheap to live in filth. To get same quality of goods and services as I am used to back home, the cost is almost the same. Maybe 30% cheaper, no more than that.[/QUOTE]
Yep you said what I said but better...
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The same reason my ancestors left Europe
to get away from a government/country/culture they no longer if ever liked.
I would rather be free to do what I want then have good infrastructure. I am going to escape America and can hardly wait.
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Today she suddenly tells me she is in love & moving to Thailand to be with here 'fiance'.
This is totally out of left field but when i get a look at her 'fiance' i going into mild shock & think 'oh god irish how could you..'
AV[/QUOTE]
I've waited a few days to write this..... thinking that - "surely someone will point it out. Telling myselt to MYOB."
But up-to-date - nothing...zilch.. nada!
What am I going on about? Well, its the posting of someone else's picture; someone who most likely donot know that he's being posted and certainly would mind a helluva lot if he ever finds out - as he's being put to really bad ridicule here.
How would you llike it if someone posts YOUR picture without your expressed permission. Especially in this context - and by someone who does have an axe to grind - i.e. he's lost his Irish to someone else.
I don';t know much about the law - but I would think that there may be a case for slander or ....????
Perhaps you should consider asking Jackson to remove the offending picture?
Just IMHO.
Peace and Salutations
SEAJ
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Fred
[QUOTE=Fred C Dobbs]to get away from a government/country/culture they no longer if ever liked.
I would rather be free to do what I want then have good infrastructure. I am going to escape America and can hardly wait.[/QUOTE]
Happy to see you go Fred.
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A Race to the Phils
Interesting to read the post by Fred C Dobbs - rather have freedom than infrastructure.
I am leaving Australia to live in the Phiols for the same reason.
Let's see who gets there first.
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[QUOTE=Fred C Dobbs]to get away from a government/country/culture they no longer if ever liked. I would rather be free to do what I want then have good infrastructure. [/QUOTE]What exactly are you free to do in the Phils that is illegit in USA? The majority of the locals has the freedom to trudge on mud roads to slums with no electricity, indoor plumbing, clean water or basic appliances. There is a reason why they are so desperate to escape and work abroad. Anywhere.
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Unfortunately
[QUOTE=Gangles]Interesting to read the post by Fred C Dobbs - rather have freedom than infrastructure.
I am leaving Australia to live in the Phiols for the same reason.
Let's see who gets there first.[/QUOTE]
Mr. Gangles you will probably get there first. I have to wait at leat 3 years and 2 months but it will probably be closer to 5.
Not meaning to upset other members but I hardly think I am the only one in the states. I have read on other forums hundreds of thousands if not millions have had the same thoughts. Most of these are just to survive since they have saved little to no money. Hopefully their US dollars don't turn into Pesos.
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]What exactly are you free to do in the Phils that is illegit in USA? The majority of the locals has the freedom to trudge on mud roads to slums with no electricity, indoor plumbing, clean water or basic appliances. There is a reason why they are so desperate to escape and work abroad. Anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Yes Filipinos want to leave to make money and then they want to come back and buy the home that I already can afford. If they had money they would not want to leave. It seems everything I want to do here I could be arrested for. I remember traveling entirely all across Romania and seeing less polizia then I see on one night here in downtown Long Beach, California who insist on teaching me on how to cross the street.
I don't like the guvment investigating everything about me. I even had to have a homeland security investigation to keep the job I've had for over 14 years in a business I have been in for almost 30 years. Plus they are taking 40 per cent of my money for their war machine against our new enemy Terrorists hiding in caves somewhere in the Khyper Pass that are out to get me very similar to the Commies that use to be after me.
I have been free everywhere I have been as long as I've had money. Here in the states I have the freedom to vote for a bought and paid for republican or a bought and paid for democrat or vote for someone who can't win. That freedom and the right to complain about it, not to loudly I might add, is the only freedoms I see. America is all about conformity not freedom. Others can have it, I don't want it because I have saved money. I can leave and will do so.
As for the poor infrastructure you mention, I could always live in Makati or Cebu. I can hack that.
Poverty and freedom are two different subjects and can be but not always mutually exclusivie.
Not to mention the culture. What culture? It seems to follow me everywhere anyhow.
I can understand if you like the states, almost everyone I know does.
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No one is happy where they are.
[QUOTE=Fred C Dobbs]Yes Filipinos want to leave to make money and then they want to come back and buy the home that I already can afford.[/quote]I find it funny that all my Filipino cousins are begging me bring them to the good ol U. S. Of A, but many on this site want to live there. Such irony. Well I enjoy both worlds, living and working in the states and visiting and bonking the young pinays.
Meluvulongtime
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States Vs. Elsewhere
I haven't lived in the States for quite a while, but I get what Fred is saying. First, there's a certain freedom that comes with just leaving the country and living elsewhere. There's no room here to list all of the reasons why I'm freer here than there, and this is not the appropriate forum for a discussion on the massive cultural/societal differences, but the fact is I'm free from the cultural norms and expectations of the US.
No rational person would argue that he would choose to live here if living here meant living like the average Filipino. The fact is though, that with a US salary, or with a decent income paid in Euros or dollars, you can live here at a far better scale than you can in the US/Europe and you can have a lifestyle that, even if you could establish it in the West, would not be affordable.
Unless you're going to choose to live deep in the provincial bush here, which some guys choose to do, the physical infrastructure is not much of a problem. The roads/bridges/buildings in most of major cities are acceptable if not outstanding, and in many areas (Davao being a perfect example) things are getting better quickly. Given that the US as utterly failed to invest massively in its own physical infrastructure for the past 20 years, I would not take any bets on how long the infrastructure there will last either.
GE
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[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]
I mean, you are giving up quite a lot when you leave the civilized world. I visit south east asia for biz and holiday trips, and it's fun for a few weeks, but living there permanently? With the polluted air and water, overcrowded filthy slums, useless and corrupt government, non-existant social services, crap healthcare, mafia-like police, petty crime, nepotism, laziness and incompetence. And what shits me the most. If you have a white face, you are viewed by everybody as a walking moneybag sucker, to be scammed and taken advantage of at every available opportunity.[/QUOTE]
Polluted air and water: You live in a nation that contributes the majority of the world's CO2
Corrupt government: you pay 30% of your income to the Sam and it pays to Halliburton which was one headed by the Dick head.
Non-existence social services: Have you tried to go to your DMV and stand in line?
Crappy health-care: Are you covered by HMO? If not, try it
Mafia-like police: Ask them what they do with your traffic fines, not going to charity that's for sure.
Nepotism: Have you ever heard of networking? Are they different?
Laziness: Same thing there but you want high pay that's why all the jobs are headed overseas and that's why your dollar is now worth the paper it's printed on.
I have to conclude that it's worse than the average 3rd world country and minus all the pussies. Don't feel bad, I am sharing your suffering.
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Hahahahaha
[quote=fast buck artist]what exactly are you free to do in the phils that is illegit in usa? the majority of the locals has the freedom to trudge on mud roads to slums with no electricity, indoor plumbing, clean water or basic appliances. there is a reason why they are so desperate to escape and work abroad. anywhere.[/quote]
in the phils i can:
1. not have to put my vehicles through soooooooooo many stupid
emissions tests.
2. not have the water police shake me down for "safety checks"
3. not have the police follow me out of a bar/restaurant and stop
me even though i have not consumed any alcohol,
4. not having them pull me over on a pretext to learn whether indeed
i have consumed alcohol.
5. not having to put up with the generally fat, pig, sexist sex nazis
in the usa
6. fewer tatoos on fat chicks and fewer fat chicks in general,
7. not have to fuck another fat chick for the rest of my life.
8. no such thing as an order of protection.
9. go to lunch, two people $2.00
10. go to a nice dinner, two people $10.00
11. amongst civilized filipinos, being treated with respect
because i am "older" (57)
12. most people speak english there. try finding that in cartagena,
colombia, which is another place that i have thought about
retiring in.
13. most streets are not muddy
14. house rental for decent and very safe place in qc 7,000 pesos
monthly
15. no heating bills
16. never seeing snow again unless i go to winter world at star city
17. not breaking a hip, ankle, leg, elbow or my butt slipping on
ice and/or snow
18. never ever having to scrape the snow and ice off of my vehicle
when the cold wet wind is coming down 400 miles of lake
michigan from dead nuts north
19. cheap and good dental care
20. women lined up wanting to live with me when i move there
i can come up with another 20. its all where your happiness can be found.
and you paint a very pessimistic picure fba. there are some really great places in the philippines so i must respectfully disagree.
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Why
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Could you guys who chose to live in a 3rd world craphole clear something up for me.- why? Is cheap pussy that important that you'd give up everything else?
I mean, you are giving up quite a lot when you leave the civilized world. I visit south east asia for biz and holiday trips, and it's fun for a few weeks, but living there permanently? With the polluted air and water, overcrowded filthy slums, useless and corrupt government, non-existant social services, crap healthcare, mafia-like police, petty crime, nepotism, laziness and incompetence. And what shits me the most. If you have a white face, you are viewed by everybody as a walking moneybag sucker, to be scammed and taken advantage of at every available opportunity.
I had the impression life is cheap in 3rd world, but actually you usually get what you pay for. It's cheap to live in filth. To get same quality of goods and services as I am used to back home, the cost is almost the same. Maybe 30% cheaper, no more than that.[/QUOTE]
I have lived and worked in Asia for 10 years now, live here long enough and you won't want to go "back".
1. Just because I can.
2, Financial freedom, I can live anywhere I want in the world due to my pension and savings. If you didn't have to work where would you live?
3. Taxes, my property taxes are less than $100 a year.
4. Respect, I treat people kindly, beggars, workmen and waitresses alike and they respond. Treat people kindly in the US and what happens?
5. Non conflict, no one bothers me here. Walk down the street in the US and
half the young hip hops wanna mess with you coz you're an older white guy. Walk into the wrong country western bar and a dozen idiot young red necks wanna throw you out.
6. Lack of social engineering, Asia is a man's world. Each sex knows it's place.
7. Corruption, the US is far more corrupt. In the Phils they nick you for a few pesos...big fizz. In the US they get your 401 K (Enron).
8. The US is NOT the US anymore. I don't know what kind of politically correct
socialist State we have created but you can't look at a woman sideways without getting a sexual harrassment suit slapped on you. The US is becoming more polarized and antagonistic as society crumbles. Soon we will have armed conflict and seperatist movements. Wait until this election is over if you don't beleive me.
I prefer not to be around for it.
Spamhog
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Another One Married...
AV I think me and you are having some sort of race of ex-girlfriends getting married. :) An accountant in Cebu found about my ole lady in Manila (don't ask how) at any rate we continued to talk then she went quiet. Today I see her on friendster married to an American. She had a strong desire to get married and leave PI. She got her wish. They had to only know each other for about 3-4 months at my estimate.. incredible. I wonder has he seen her temper yet maybe not....
I wish them the best...
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Thanks for the replies guys, this is an interesting discussion.
I get the impression that most of you are:
- 50+ and at the age of retirement or nearby
- Dont have to work for a living anymore (have savings/pension)
I am 25 so I guess that gives me a different set of priorities.
[quote=GoodEnough]Given that the US as utterly failed to invest massively in its own physical infrastructure for the past 20 years, I would not take any bets on how long the infrastructure there will last either.[/quote]That is true, US has probably the worst air transportation system of the developed countries, airports have been built to handle half of the traffic they are processing today, energy network, land transport, water network, have been neglected for 20 years due to the BANANA policies (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody). However, even after decades of decay, infrastructure is vastly superior to the Philippines, in every state and province.
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Da Third World
Can't add much to what Mr. Spam Hog said, except that if you've never lived overseas, then you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Visiting for a couple of weeks just ain't the same thing. Only those of us who have actually lived in both places can make legitimate comparisons.
GE
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Young VS The Mature..Don't Like The Word Old
[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist]Thanks for the replies guys, this is an interesting discussion.
I get the impression that most of you are:
- 50+ and at the age of retirement or nearby
- Dont have to work for a living anymore (have savings/pension)
I am 25 so I guess that gives me a different set of priorities.
That is true, US has probably the worst air transportation system of the developed countries, airports have been built to handle half of the traffic they are processing today, energy network, land transport, water network, have been neglected for 20 years due to the BANANA policies (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody). However, even after decades of decay, infrastructure is vastly superior to the Philippines, in every state and province.[/QUOTE]
This is an endless debate and should be in the "living in PI thread." That said FBA I am 26 and while I am not rich I would be considered upper middle class by my yearly earnings so thats why we see things different bruh then the those who are either retired or are approaching it. My house in PI would have maybe been more then three times in the US what I paid for it in PI. Yes your money does stretch a little longer. As for the ladies problem in US a nice car and little jewerly could cure that. Here being a foriegner is pretty much all that is required with a great deal of ladies though I have found the educated ones are more selective of their mates. All countries have infrastructure and social ills thats just a fact but some have more then others....The Philippines in my opinion is a great retirement option.......
Take It Sleazy....
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Long term stay in Philippines
Sorry if this is in the wrong secton, but it is worth a shot.
Gentlemen, are there any cheap places left in the Phillipines to live comfortably (without too many Koreans or Japanese) ? I have been to the Philippines twice -- but only as a tourist.
I would love to stay for long periods of time, but I am discouraged from moving to the Philippines long term because of concerns about the harm that the Koreans and Japanese tourists/residents are doing to the country by jacking up prices. Take for example, rentals and hotels costs in Angeles city, Manila, Cebu, Davao -- too high.
My feeling is that the decades of cheap living in the Philippines is quickly coming to an end, unless you buy a place now. I am open to any ideas on where to go outside the cities mentioned and also the remote provinces, where I might die of boredom ---
Worse comes to worse, I might have to resort to bring a plane load full of filipina to China. I am based in South China where the cost of everything except for pussy is lower than that of the Philippines. There are simply few tourists.
Comments welcome.
Yours truly,
ACE
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Hell has no fury like a woman (or monger) scorned
[QUOTE=Amavida]Some of you may remeber my mention of a GF from Tagbiliran whom i had visited a few times called "Irish'. Really lovely girl, never asked for a dime & never appeared to be desperate husband hunter. Today she suddenly tells me she is in love & moving to Thailand to be with here 'fiance'.
This is totally out of left field but when i get a look at her 'fiance' i going into mild shock & think 'oh god irish how could you..'
These girls never fail to surprise..
I wonder which one of the two is getting more conned..
AV[/QUOTE]
AV - are you keeping a low profile. It appears that your 'oh my god' photo posting of a monger (or maybe not) with your former GF has received attention on the China Photo board, of all places. Your fame knows no bounds.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Anybody know what is the law on slander or putting somebody to ridicule publicly?
I just posted on the Filipino Women and opinion thread where someone posted a picture of his "occassional GF" together with a picture of the guy she is about to now marry; commenting about how old he was etc The amazing thing is that the board then went on to keep on slagging the gal and the guy in the picture with her.
For sure the poster do NOT have the expressed permission of the guy pictured and I'm pretty sure that this guy would be outraged looking at his face AND reading some of the disparaging remarks these posters - who've never even met the guy - were making.
Just wondering.
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
It even enticed Prof Doff, that old anti-mongering, pseudo-intellectual fool from the Thai threads to leave his comfort zones and turn into barrack room lawyer for the day. Your privileged indeed.
So I guess your gone into online hiding as you anticipate a man with a lawsuit
(or an irate former GF) to come knocking at your door. Is it cold in an Afghan cave this time of year? :D GH
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Hi Ace, You might have been better posting on the 'Living in Philippine' thread but it is of little import.
Your concerns are interesting but I can assure you that they have little grounding in fact. Although Japanese and to a lesser extent Koreans have a reputation as 'big spenders', this is mainly the tourist element, same as vacationing westerners are more extravagent in their spending than those who live in situ. The expat Koreans community (which is much bigger than the Japanese expat community anyway) like the Philippines because the cost of living is so much cheaper than in Korea particularly with regards to education (and classes are in English, another big plus). Other things such as rent, food etc are a bargain compared to home and so they have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.
The Philippines does not receive anywhere as much foreign investment as other countries in the region, notably Thailand. Therefore the economic and material infrastructure is much less well developed. This along with the renowned governmental inefficiency and the old demons of corruption and nepotism mean that we are stuck with the chaotic state of the country as it is and things are not going to change anytime soon. So I don't visualise a boom in the economy anytime soon.
So although things are steadily getting more expensive here, this is reflected everywhere in the world due to high demand for commodities and crazy oil prices, rather than a localised phenomenom. GH
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Cheap places
[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]Sorry if this is in the wrong secton, but it is worth a shot.
Gentlemen, are there any cheap places left in the Phillipines to live comfortably (without too many Koreans or Japanese) ? I have been to the Philippines twice -- but only as a tourist.
I would love to stay for long periods of time, but I am discouraged from moving to the Philippines long term because of concerns about the harm that the Koreans and Japanese tourists/residents are doing to the country by jacking up prices. Take for example, rentals and hotels costs in Angeles city, Manila, Cebu, Davao -- too high.
My feeling is that the decades of cheap living in the Philippines is quickly coming to an end, unless you buy a place now. I am open to any ideas on where to go outside the cities mentioned and also the remote provinces, where I might die of boredom ---
Worse comes to worse, I might have to resort to bring a plane load full of filipina to China. I am based in South China where the cost of everything except for pussy is lower than that of the Philippines. There are simply few tourists.
Comments welcome.
Yours truly,
ACE[/QUOTE]
I would't worry too much about Koreans and J Boys "jacking up" the prices.
Most of each group have their own system of information (especially the Japanese) network and such as well as bars, girls and what have you. I really don't see them adding to the rise in prices here in Cebu despite the
fact there are ever growing communities of each. They tend to stay within their own. If anything, they help improve certain aspects of living in the phils
as they usually demand a certain standard, of course one must pay for it.
I would say that tourists from SEA impact more on Boracay/Palawan than the cities.
Check some of the places "Just out of town" in Cebu, Davao or Cagayan De Oro, all places I have lived and worked. There are places where "foreigners" seem to gather, said communities and subdivsions seem to have a better standard. More expensive than a tumbled down apartment in Downtown Lahug but in the long run worth it.
Spamhog
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I'll concede that more likely she was working scams on the net with help from her "manager" in Davao.
One thing that threw me off was that her female friends on her Friendster page were, for the most part, square-bears (these gals can be narcisstic though, having 500 pics of themeslves striking redundant poses- how much of an artistic effect is it when you've seen them sticking out their tongue for the 10the time?). I've always, at least in the States, partially judged a gal by who she hangs with. Usually strippers and hoes hang with other strippers and hoes. Conversely, conservative gals generally hang out with other conservative gals.
In the Phils, if a gal is either hooking or scamming, do her friends either accept what she is doing or are they gullible enough to believe the lie(s)??
fwiw, the other day she told me she thought she was pregnant, and is indeed, not.
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Yep, you just met a scammer. Lemme guess, she doesn't have a job but she has a lap top and "work" the net in bra and panties.
Sounds to me like that cell phone was real busy...two of 'em? Wow, she got the boys backed up asking where she is online while she's bonking you.
Wanted you to give her a free ride to Davao...yep.
Why would she lie about being pregnant? Man this is so easy, she wants money from you...lemme guess, the kid is yours coz you the only guy she ever bonked right? Yep.
So go ahead and give her money to take care of her pregnant self. Guarentee you in a few months she is gonna say she lost the baby, after all you didn't send her enough money for proper pre natal or something.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]In the Phils, if a gal is either hooking or scamming, do her friends either accept what she is doing or are they gullible enough to believe the lie(s)??[/QUOTE]In my 14 years of experience visting to and living in (off and on) the PI:
Being a working girl is merely another form of work and they will all hang out and intermingle (except for those that realy do have alot of money as they feel themselves to be better). Good girls accept that some of their friends may be working a bar and thats that - it is no biggie to them.
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]I'll concede that more likely she was working scams on the net with help from her "manager" in Davao.
One thing that threw me off was that her female friends on her Friendster page were, for the most part, square-bears (these gals can be narcisstic though, having 500 pics of themeslves striking redundant poses- how much of an artistic effect is it when you've seen them sticking out their tongue for the 10the time?). I've always, at least in the States, partially judged a gal by who she hangs with. Usually strippers and hoes hang with other strippers and hoes. Conversely, conservative gals generally hang out with other conservative gals.
In the Phils, if a gal is either hooking or scamming, do her friends either accept what she is doing or are they gullible enough to believe the lie(s)??
fwiw, the other day she told me she thought she was pregnant, and is indeed, not.[/QUOTE]
All the girls I have met in PI hang with the same crowd... If she is hooking more then likely all her friends are also. If she is a professional more then likely her friends are also....my two
Take It Sleazy
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]AV - are you keeping a low profile. It appears that your 'oh my god' photo posting of a monger (or maybe not) with your former GF has received attention on the China Photo board, of all places. Your fame knows no bounds.
It even enticed Prof Doff, that old anti-mongering, pseudo-intellectual fool from the Thai threads to leave his comfort zones and turn into barrack room lawyer for the day. Your privileged indeed.
So I guess your gone into online hiding as you anticipate a man with a lawsuit
(or an irate former GF) to come knocking at your door. Is it cold in an Afghan cave this time of year? :D GH[/QUOTE]
Hey GH - thanks for at least acknowledging!
Did you.... and anybody else .... read what I wrote earlier on this thread?
[QUOTE]I've waited a few days to write this..... thinking that - "surely someone will point it out. mEANWHILE telling myselt to MYOB."
But up-to-date - nothing...zilch.. nada!
What am I going on about? Well, its the posting of someone else's picture; someone who most likely donot know that he's being posted and certainly would mind a helluva lot if he ever finds out - as he's being put to really bad ridicule here.
How would you llike it if someone posts YOUR picture without your expressed permission. Especially in this context - and by someone who does have an axe to grind - i.e. he's lost his Irish to someone else.
I don';t know much about the law - but I would think that there may be a case for slander or ....????
Perhaps you should consider asking Jackson to remove the offending picture?
Just IMHO.
Peace and Salutations
SEAJ [/QUOTE]
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Income
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]I'll concede that more likely she was working scams on the net with help from her "manager" in Davao.
One thing that threw me off was that her female friends on her Friendster page were, for the most part, square-bears (these gals can be narcisstic though, having 500 pics of themeslves striking redundant poses- how much of an artistic effect is it when you've seen them sticking out their tongue for the 10the time?). I've always, at least in the States, partially judged a gal by who she hangs with. Usually strippers and hoes hang with other strippers and hoes. Conversely, conservative gals generally hang out with other conservative gals.
In the Phils, if a gal is either hooking or scamming, do her friends either accept what she is doing or are they gullible enough to believe the lie(s)??
fwiw, the other day she told me she thought she was pregnant, and is indeed, not.[/QUOTE]
The key points here are income, she has a lap top, cell phones (yeah...all of 'em do) but she has two...lemme guess, they are not P900 specials she got at the pawn shop. Question is where does she get all this money to get those things which is likely beyond the reach of your average barrio kitty.
Girls here tend to associate with each other on all diffferent strata. Yeah, she likely has a few square friends. Remember, people develop associations and friendships based on region. Same language, I know so and so your from such and such. Girls also usually dont condem another out there putting it on the block, people have to do what they have to do n order to get by. They all know some Japiyuki, somebody working in a bar or somebody who was a mistress to a rich Chinese, or even more likely her sister who had a baby out of wedlock to a married man.
Now when they get catty is when one of looser morals comes buzzing around HER guy.
Spamhog
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Japiyuki
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Girls here tend to associate with each other on all diffferent strata. Yeah, she likely has a few square friends. Remember, people develop associations and friendships based on region. Same language, I know so and so your from such and such. Girls also usually dont condem another out there putting it on the block, people have to do what they have to do n order to get by. They all know some Japiyuki,
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
I knew a lot of Japiyuki in my days in Japan and a lot of them wasn't fucking the customers. They fleeced them out thier yen... rub their bald ass head and tell them how much they like them but that was about it. I seen it with my own eyes to many times...I have a homeboy who wife was Filipina and he knowing let his wife fleece Japanese dudes out of money but at night her ass was right at home by his side. Strong guy I couldn't put up with that shit...
Go For What You Know
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]AV - are you keeping a low profile. It appears that your 'oh my god' photo posting of a monger (or maybe not) with your former GF has received attention on the China Photo board, of all places. Your fame knows no bounds.
It even enticed Prof Doff, that old anti-mongering, pseudo-intellectual fool from the Thai threads to leave his comfort zones and turn into barrack room lawyer for the day. Your privileged indeed.
So I guess your gone into online hiding as you anticipate a man with a lawsuit
(or an irate former GF) to come knocking at your door. Is it cold in an Afghan cave this time of year? :D GH[/QUOTE]G'day GH! No not hiding, just busy doing rather than talking ;) I guess its always touchy posting pics of old GF's and there new meal tickets. I deliberately posted a only a small pic precisely to minimise potential misuse. I doubt that Irish would ever find the pics but Im very suspicious of her old farang. Would'nt be at all surprised if he is a 'serial offender'. I doubt he would risk exposing himself by being so rash as to contemplate anything remotely like litigation.
Cheers mate!
AV
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Axe To Grind....
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]I've waited a few days to write this..... thinking that - "surely someone will point it out. mEANWHILE telling myselt to MYOB."
But up-to-date - nothing...zilch.. nada!
What am I going on about? Well, its the posting of someone else's picture; someone who most likely donot know that he's being posted and certainly would mind a helluva lot if he ever finds out - as he's being put to really bad ridicule here.
How would you llike it if someone posts YOUR picture without your expressed permission. Especially in this context - and by someone who does have an axe to grind - i.e. he's lost his Irish to someone else.
I don';t know much about the law - but I would think that there may be a case for slander or ....????
Perhaps you should consider asking Jackson to remove the offending picture?
Just IMHO.
Peace and Salutations
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
I don’t think AV has a axe to grind I think he is like me. To see a girl you had a relationship with for months or even years who walks out of your life and pops on the internet in some other dude arms you had no prior knowledge about just fucks with your mental. In the last few months I have had it happen to me three times already. :)
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Trust Me I'm A Lawyer
In the English speaking world there is law about posting somebody's image in that context. Problem is that its on this board and this board is generated in Argentina. So Jackson remains pretty judgment proof and it will be very difficult to sustain a viable lawsuit in the domicile country of AV or whoever the poster is.
If you don't want to be put in the position of the guy whose image is posted, I would advise to error on the side of discretion. So as not to take this subject to a pissing match, I doubt whether I will respond to any replys to this, however, I applaud the guy in th epic for getting such a doll. I hope Cialis is cheap in Bangkok.
That'll be $500.00 for my opinon guys.
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[QUOTE=D Etat]I don’t think AV has a axe to grind I think he is like me. To see a girl you had a relationship with for months or even years who walks out of your life and pops on the internet in some other dude arms you had no prior knowledge about just fucks with your mental. In the last few months I have had it happen to me three times already. :)[/QUOTE]
Thanks - at least it's acknowledged that there MAY be problems with the posting of third parties without their knowledge/prior approval.
Even when posting up picture of gals who I've done, I always try to safeguard their actual identity by blotting/cutting out some of the features - as to me, there really is no over-riding/redeeming factors to show them 100%.
In this case, AV has actually posted a picture of a third party who totally has nothing to do with him. OK, I can go along with posting Irish's picture up to warn others/ her potential suitors about her "proclivities" - but what does posting this poor guy's picture serve? - except to put/set him up for public ridicule etc. (and indeed Av actually started this process in the accompanying post).
OK I can feel for AV and what he's going thru - but really, I would strongly suggest that he take down that picture.
The above of course only IMHO. Peace!
SEAJ
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[QUOTE=Amavida].............Im very suspicious of her old farang. Would'nt be at all surprised if he is a 'serial offender'. AV[/QUOTE]
errrrr......here you go again AV.
Ok, like I said, I feel for you - but you're really slagging a guy who you don't know and who you really should not have an axe to grind with. OK, Irish, I can understand.... but what has this guy done KNOWINGLY against you? Shouldn't you instead feel "sorry" for him - that he's probably also going to be "taken" by Irish?
Just IMHO please, no offense meant at all - just a reminder to direct your anger at the correct target. peace
SEAJ
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Grinding
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]errrrr......here you go again AV....
Just IMHO please, no offense meant at all - just a reminder to direct your anger at the correct target. peace
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Two posts, same subject, itch itch ?? Looks like somebody else is doing the grinding to me, give it a rest mate.
We all have a right to post here, words, pics etc and IMHO with Jackson who is the God of Moderators, we have a very well run Forum.
If you truly mean ''peace'' then let this one RIP.
Cheers, F/Fifty
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[QUOTE=D Etat]I don’t think AV has a axe to grind I think he is like me. To see a girl you had a relationship with for months or even years who walks out of your life and pops on the internet in some other dude arms you had no prior knowledge about just fucks with your mental. In the last few months I have had it happen to me three times already. :)[/QUOTE]You nailed it exactly D Etat. All the other responses seriously misunderstood what I was getting at.
AV
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[QUOTE=D Etat]I don’t think AV has a axe to grind I think he is like me. To see a girl you had a relationship with for months or even years who walks out of your life and pops on the internet in some other dude arms you had no prior knowledge about just fucks with your mental. In the last few months I have had it happen to me three times already. :)[/QUOTE]
Three times - at least you are in the land of pussy so you can find a replacement(s) quite easily I trust :)
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[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Two posts, same subject, itch itch ?? Looks like somebody else is doing the grinding to me, give it a rest mate.
We all have a right to post here, words, pics etc and IMHO with Jackson who is the God of Moderators, we have a very well run Forum.
If you truly mean ''peace'' then let this one RIP.
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
I truly cannot believe that no one here seems to think that posting up the picture of an unsuspecting third party and then getting into a slagging feast at his expense is OK.
And I'd let it rest if the offending (to me anyways) photo WAS removed. and NO I am NOT the guy (and NO I don't know the guy!) - but I just think this whole thing is wrong. OK, up to now, it seems that no one agrees with me. But does anybody actually DISagree?
Come on guys - surely at least one of you agree with me????!!
Even you 50-50 - do you really think it is ethically, morally, legally correct to have posted up the picture of the guy? And even the fact that AV has such a picture - I have my reservations as to how he had obtained it.
Yes, every one has the right to post - but does it give any one the right to put an innocent third party up to ridicule?
SEAJ
ps. AV and D'etat - "...just fucks with your mental....." is this perhaps, just maybe.. what's happening....so much so that you cannot see what I see??
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]I truly cannot believe that no one here seems to think that posting up the picture of an unsuspecting third party and then getting into a slagging feast at his expense is OK.
And I'd let it rest if the offending (to me anyways) photo WAS removed. and NO I am NOT the guy (and NO I don't know the guy!) - but I just think this whole thing is wrong. OK, up to now, it seems that no one agrees with me. But does anybody actually DISagree?
Come on guys - surely at least one of you agree with me????!!
Even you 50-50 - do you really think it is ethically, morally, legally correct to have posted up the picture of the guy? And even the fact that AV has such a picture - I have my reservations as to how he had obtained it.
Yes, every one has the right to post - but does it give any one the right to put an innocent third party up to ridicule?
SEAJ
ps. AV and D'etat - "...just fucks with your mental....." is this perhaps, just maybe.. what's happening....so much so that you cannot see what I see??[/QUOTE]
Youre exactly right. It's SO disrespectful no matter what the motive. Not to mention vindictive.
I guess some people are like that though. Lesson? Dont get your pic taken ;)
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[QUOTE=Blackangst]Youre exactly right. It's SO disrespectful no matter what the motive. Not to mention vindictive.
I guess some people are like that though. Lesson? Dont get your pic taken ;)[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Thank you, Thank YOU!!
I really thought that I was going bonkers - that I may have been the only one to.....!
Thanks!! Anybody else?
SEAJ
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe] Thanks!! Anybody else?
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Why not put it to a vote?
Seriously though, AV's lovely colleen Irish of the daft name, either sent the pic to him to crow in which case it is understandable if not justifiable that he should post them. Alternatively he snatched them from a contact site such as DIA (where, I notice when girls find a guy, they often post a joint pic as some sort of oneupmanship/not available anymore thing), in which case it would be a decided no no.
In either case it is a faux pais on AV's part which I am sure that he now realises. GH
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Me
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Thank you, Thank you, Thank YOU!!
I really thought that I was going bonkers - that I may have been the only one to.....!
Thanks!! Anybody else?
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
I am with you on this Joe....Disrespectful, inconsiderate, thoughtless and in a more blunt word friggin' stupid. Wonder if he would like to have his image posted on the net?
ES
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Why not put it to a vote?
Seriously though, AV's lovely colleen Irish of the daft name, either sent the pic to him to crow in which case it is understandable if not justifiable that he should post them. Alternatively he snatched them from a contact site such as DIA (where, I notice when girls find a guy, they often post a joint pic as some sort of oneupmanship/not available anymore thing), in which case it would be a decided no no.[/QUOTE]Yes SHE sent me the pics.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]In either case it is a faux pais on AV's part which I am sure that he now realises. GH[/QUOTE]I agree it could be seen as a bit cheeky.
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Yes SHE sent me the pics.
I agree it could be seen as a bit cheeky.
AV[/QUOTE]
Soooooo....howzabout you removing the picture??
Thanks
Joe
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Que Tacet Consentit
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
Even you 50-50 - do you really think it is ethically, morally, legally correct to have posted up the picture of the guy?[/QUOTE]
Ok I dont agree that any of this is correct and I would definitley not be happy if my Mug was posted here either, however I do not generally pose for pics anyway.
As far as Ethics, Morals and Correctness go, we are all guilty for being the Mongers that we are. (Exploitation...blah blah blah)
I have to say all this ''axe-grinding'' about a posted pic is only highlighting the issue and I also have to ask the question:
What is so wrong with posting a pic of a guy without permission, compared with the thousands of pics posted of girls here, most without permission?
After all the lovely smiling naked Pilipina you just posted could be some fine upstanding ISG Member's wife now, just think how that would go down at the dinner party back home !!
Give it a rest chaps, F/Fifty
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[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Ok I dont agree that any of this is correct and I would definitley not be happy if my Mug was posted here either, however I do not generally pose for pics anyway.
As far as Ethics, Morals and Correctness go, we are all guilty for being the Mongers that we are. (Exploitation...blah blah blah)
I have to say all this ''axe-grinding'' about a posted pic is only highlighting the issue and I also have to ask the question:
What is so wrong with posting a pic of a guy without permission, compared with the thousands of pics posted of girls here, most without permission?
After all the lovely smiling naked Pilipina you just posted could be some fine upstanding ISG Member's wife now, just think how that would go down at the dinner party back home !!
Give it a rest chaps, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
Aaaaaahhh...... yes, posting of girl's pictures etc. I make it a practice to ONLY post pictures which will NOT clearly identify any girl - by cropping, blurring and covering of facial features etc.(for all the obvious reasons etc) And I of course know that there are those who do NOT do so - my choice, their choice. But the purpose of ISG IS the exchange of information on paid sex. And please note, its for PAID sex with WG's - and not to slag off or post the picture of other mongers.
And what is so wrong with.....?? Come on man - like I said, could you and AV perhaps be so distraught with loosing someone (in your own words ""...just fucks with your mental....." ) that you are not able to see what is wrong? You and AV can slag off your ex-GF, post her picture, warn others etc - I wouldn't say nuthin' - but what has the poor sap posted by AV got anything to do with ANYTHING?
OK - if you think it's so right - how come you yourself have not posted pictures of your ex-girl's present boyfirend and start off a slagging contest. Yes, it's quite noble of you to try to defend AV - but you yourself should know that you're defending the indefensible.
Paix
SEAJ
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Defence??
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]...... Yes, it's quite noble of you to try to defend AV - but you yourself should know that you're defending the indefensible.
Paix
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
As I said ""I do not agree with any of this"
I have the same view of you on pics and always 'blur or disguise' etc out of respect.
Therefore I am not defending anyone at all.
However, as I also said ''each to his own'' we all have a right to post what we wish here and basically the only recognised and valid ''Policeman'' is Jackson - so be it.
Cheers, F/Fifty
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]... Come on man - like I said, could you and AV perhaps be so distraught with loosing someone (in your own words ""...just fucks with your mental....." ) that you are not able to see what is wrong? You and AV can slag off your ex-GF, post her picture, warn others etc
SEAJ[/QUOTE]Excuse me but I don't recall slagging off Irish in my post. I recall her as a genuinely nice person but I am in no way distraught at the passing of her friendship. In fact she sent me several long wistful 'goodbye' emails. I responded by wishing her & him the very best & making it subtly but firmly clear that I am not a lifeline.
I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth or ascribe motivations to me based on your own prejudices.
I posted a very small pic (of a freely given pic) purely as an illustration. More than likely she has posted it herself on whatever dating site she used to meet him. The point of my original post was to illustrate the tendency for pinay's to grab anything that offers a wedding ring regardless of age/looks.
I have had my opportunity to respond to your many criticisms & will say nothing further now. Thanks
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]The point of my original post was to illustrate the tendency for pinay's to grab anything that offers a wedding ring regardless of age/looks.
I have had my opportunity to respond to your many criticisms & will say nothing further now. Thanks
AV[/QUOTE]I agree with this point. It is true, and very sad at what women are willing to do to increase their standard of living. Why do we not see men, in large numbers, marrying anything that comes along in order to increase a financial standard of living. It has always baffled me why and even how women can do this. To me, its just another form of prostitution.
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Come on Gentlemen!..lol..
[QUOTE=GrooveJon]I agree with this point. It is true, and very sad at what women are willing to do to increase their standard of living. Why do we not see men, in large numbers, marrying anything that comes along in order to increase a financial standard of living. It has always baffled me why and even how women can do this. To me, its just another form of prostitution.[/QUOTE]All this hand wringing over the fact a young pinay will marry an old fart is hilarious. LOL. It is "very sad" what pinays will do for money? Thank god what they do for me for a little filthy cash.come on, what the hell you think the spinners are screwing us for our charm and goodlooks? (But I have to admit I do also get freebies because I am chaming and guapo since I am in great shape for 49 But some pinays just bone me for $$$. I see nothing wrong in a fine yourg pinay marrying a fossil. Congratulations! They both get what they want. No harm, no foul. What the hell do I care. Live and let live.
Meluvulongtime
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[QUOTE=GrooveJon]I agree with this point. It is true, and very sad at what women are willing to do to increase their standard of living. Why do we not see men, in large numbers, marrying anything that comes along in order to increase a financial standard of living. It has always baffled me why and even how women can do this. To me, its just another form of prostitution.[/QUOTE]
This is a country where more than 50% of the people live on less than $2 a day, with inflation at close to 10% and with an economy that produces few decent jobs. It's totally corrupt and offers almost zero opportunity for economic advancement. It has an education system that's on the bottom rung of every ranking for countries in SE Asia. And you wonder why women will do anything to get the hell out of here in the hopes of a better life? The more appropriate question is why anyone chooses to stay.
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Institutionalized....
[QUOTE=Amavida]Excuse me but I don't recall slagging off Irish in my post. I recall her as a genuinely nice person but I am in no way distraught at the passing of her friendship. In fact she sent me several long wistful 'goodbye' emails. I responded by wishing her & him the very best & making it subtly but firmly clear that I am not a lifeline.
I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth or ascribe motivations to me based on your own prejudices.
I posted a very small pic (of a freely given pic) purely as an illustration. More than likely she has posted it herself on whatever dating site she used to meet him. The point of my original post was to illustrate the tendency for pinay's to grab anything that offers a wedding ring regardless of age/looks.
I have had my opportunity to respond to your many criticisms & will say nothing further now. Thanks
AV[/QUOTE]
I swear some of these cats got to be the most crusading mother fuckers to shit between two shoes.
AV I brought this up a couple of post back how they will settle for just about whatever comes along with a wallet and pulse and all you were doing was just pointing it out. Does it mean you have an axe to grind hell no.
[QUOTE=GrooveJon]I agree with this point. It is true, and very sad at what women are willing to do to increase their standard of living. Why do we not see men, in large numbers, marrying anything that comes along in order to increase a financial standard of living. It has always baffled me why and even how women can do this. To me, its just another form of prostitution.[/QUOTE]
What do you do with a prostitute? You pay her money or other goods to have sex with you. What do you do with a more then likely uneducated girl who has no job or no hope or finding one and no money who you financially provide for? What is she providing you with? Not another form of prostitution its institutionalized.
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The Rigors of Phil Annulment
I'm involved with a Filipina OFW in my S. E. Asian country who is tied down to a sham marriage in the Phils. She is exploring the prospects of an annulment, and tells me she will need to be resident in Phils for an extended period to get it done as the process will require various court appearances.
Can anyone provide some specific background on this? Can she process the annulment while she remains overseas? She will be back in Phils for several weeks near year-end so can get stuff done then, but she doesn't need to be back in Phils 1-2 yrs just to get annulment does she?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Houziwang]I'm involved with a Filipina OFW in my S. E. Asian country who is tied down to a sham marriage in the Phils. She is exploring the prospects of an annulment, and tells me she will need to be resident in Phils for an extended period to get it done as the process will require various court appearances.
Can anyone provide some specific background on this? Can she process the annulment while she remains overseas? She will be back in Phils for several weeks near year-end so can get stuff done then, but she doesn't need to be back in Phils 1-2 yrs just to get annulment does she?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Friend-no offense, but although some of us can probably give you SOME information, this is not the place to look for annulment advice. Seriously. Spend some time on Google. The problem is twofold: First, there is the legal issue. Second, and most important, is the bullshit factor. That is, we all know everything is for sale in PI, and one person's experience getting annulment will be different than another. This really is a serious issue that needs to be explored somewhere else.
Now, I know Im not a mod or anything, but there are forums just for this type of thing, and I would suggest you start there. And the journey of annulment is NOT for the weak of heart. Be forewarned :)
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Nope-youre wrong.
[QUOTE=D Etat]I swear some of these cats got to be the most crusading mother fuckers to shit between two shoes.
AV I brought this up a couple of post back how they will settle for just about whatever comes along with a wallet and pulse and all you were doing was just pointing it out. Does it mean you have an axe to grind hell no.
What do you do with a prostitute? You pay her money or other goods to have sex with you. What do you do with a more then likely uneducated girl who has no job or no hope or finding one and no money who you financially provide for? What is she providing you with? Not another form of prostitution its institutionalized.[/QUOTE]
Maybe YOU do, but I dont pay the girls to have sex. I pay them TO LEAVE.
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Annulments
The cost of the annulment, depending on where you get it done and whom you select as an attorney will likely run you $2,000-$3,000 and will likely take about a year, though I have heard of cases that went faster. Like everything else here. it's mostly a pay off--in this case to the catholic church. It's not a difficult process, but it's expensive, corrupt, and time consuming like any other "official" act here. I'm not sure about the residency requirement, but again, like everything else here, even if it's true it can probably be circumvented by stuffing enough pesos in enough "connected" pockets.
GE
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1. I'm not your friend.
2. Yes, you do offend.
3. You haven't told me anything.
[QUOTE=Blackangst]Friend-no offense, but although some of us can probably give you SOME information, this is not the place to look for annulment advice. Seriously. Spend some time on Google. The problem is twofold: First, there is the legal issue. Second, and most important, is the bullshit factor. That is, we all know everything is for sale in PI, and one person's experience getting annulment will be different than another. This really is a serious issue that needs to be explored somewhere else.
Now, I know Im not a mod or anything, but there are forums just for this type of thing, and I would suggest you start there. And the journey of annulment is NOT for the weak of heart. Be forewarned :)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Excuse me but I don't recall slagging off Irish in my post. I recall her as a genuinely nice person but I am in no way distraught at the passing of her friendship. In fact she sent me several long wistful 'goodbye' emails. I responded by wishing her & him the very best & making it subtly but firmly clear that I am not a lifeline.
I'll thank you not to put words in my mouth or ascribe motivations to me based on your own prejudices.
I posted a very small pic (of a freely given pic) purely as an illustration. More than likely she has posted it herself on whatever dating site she used to meet him. The point of my original post was to illustrate the tendency for pinay's to grab anything that offers a wedding ring regardless of age/looks.
I have had my opportunity to respond to your many criticisms & will say nothing further now. Thanks
AV[/QUOTE]
AV - now YOU're the one putting words into my writing!! Or at least doing a bit of creative editing!!
Please re-read what I wrote - which is .".........You and AV can slag off your ex-GF, post her picture, warn others etc - I wouldn't say nuthin' - but what has the poor sap posted by AV got anything to do with ANYTHING?......." PLEASE note the word "can"
As for your statement ".......The point of my original post was to illustrate the tendency for pinay's to grab anything that offers a wedding ring regardless of age/looks..." OK - great, good - but it still does not explain/give excuse to your posting of the guy's picture. Zilch, nada!
The posting of the guy's picture is ALL that I am writing about. Please do tell what.... if any... reason for such posting?!
Now 50-50, what you posted
[QUOTE]However, as I also said ''each to his own'' we all have a right to post what we wish here and basically the only recognised and valid ''Policeman'' is Jackson - so be it.[/QUOTE]
of course I agree with this statement - but doesn't mean that we should just go ahead and act like ruffians and go as far as we can get away with and only stop only when Jackson stops us. I've got a lot of respect for Jackson's judgement and for the amount of time he puts into these pages we all enjoy - but if we were to all act the way that you suggest we do, Jackson would do nothing but act like a "Policeman!"
Come on 50-50, you know that we are NOT ruffians and thus we should not act like Ruffians. There are certain code of conduct amongst Gentlemen - and I do believe that Jackson would agree that he would prefer that we do act accordingly - NON?
O Jeez - now you're gonna come back and challenge my statement about gentlemen - how can we even pretend to be gentlemen when we're all mongers etc etc etc.
Jeez - cain;t win here - so perhaps I'll just let it drop like AV seems to want to do. Leave you guys to be whatever you wanna be.
Peace and OUT!!!!
SEAJ
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Do it if you mean it.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]...............Jeez - cain;t win here - so perhaps I'll just let it drop like AV seems to want to do. Leave you guys to be whatever you wanna be.
Peace and OUT!!!!
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Ok then, let the freedom of the Forum prevail and stop the Axe-Grinding.
This topic is so old, if you hadn't dragged it up, once again, I am sure most of us would have forgotten by now.
Cheers, F/Fifty
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[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Ok then, let the freedom of the Forum prevail and stop the Axe-Grinding.
This topic is so old, if you hadn't dragged it up, once again, I am sure most of us would have forgotten by now.
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
"Let the freedom of the Forum prevail" you write...
and what is this you are trying to do, by trying to stifle what I say - things which you yourself agree with? And things which still has not been corrected as AV has NOT taken down the offensive (to me and I'm usre to some others here) picture?
As far as axe grinding is concerned - what is it that you are doing by asking me stop every time I bring up the subject. To me THAT is old - especially since its not you but AV who posted the offending picture. What has it got to do with you?
1. Are you so enamored of AV that you've got to be his protector
2. Do you hate AV so much that you've just gotta get me all riled up and continue on the subject and thus bring AV up to more??
What IS it with you?
SEAJ
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Stop This Please!!!!
OK SEAJ. to You're right. Now, would you please stop? You're making me want to put a bullet in my head!!
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[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]OK SEAJ. to You're right. Now, would you please stop? You're making me want to put a bullet in my head!![/QUOTE]
Naaaahh... don't go and do that. Wouldn't it be a waste of bullets..... for lawyers. OUCH..... sorrry ,.... just gotta get THAT in.....!!
Anyway, to make it up, howzabout me offering a peace offering....of the tasty morsel from the ChangAn naked KTV last week-end? OK??
Better??
SEAJ
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I cant resist
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Anyway, to make it up, howzabout me offering a peace offering....of the tasty morsel from the ChangAn naked KTV last week-end? OK??
Better??
SEAJ[/QUOTE]Hey Joe
How about a few pics of her Boyfriend? LOL.
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Exclusive pix of AV
[QUOTE=AussieOverboard]Hey Joe
How about a few pics of her Boyfriend? LOL.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha like it - also noticed nobody complained when I posted a picture of AV some time ago. Wonder why? :D GH
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Hahaha like it - also noticed nobody complained when I posted a picture of AV some time ago. Wonder why? :D GH[/QUOTE]
NOW....THAT....is a helluva good idea!!
Yeah AV - why dontcha' post a pix of yourself?! Since you think its soooooooo..... OK for you to post another monger's!
Yeah yeah yeah!!
And no 50-50, I ain't goin' anywhere - so don't you worry your pretty little head off - I'll keep your nemesis AV on the front page!! WHAT is it that he's done against you to make you want us to keep this barrage against him???!!!
Oooooooohhh.... now the quandry - how to answer this latest.... or just keep quiet.....very quiet???!!
Muahahahah!!!
SEAJ
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Value Added Post
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]NOW....THAT....is a helluva good idea!!
Yeah AV - why dontcha' post a pix of yourself?! Since you think its soooooooo..... OK for you to post another monger's!
Yeah yeah yeah!!
And no 50-50, I ain't goin' anywhere - so don't you worry your pretty little head off - I'll keep your nemesis AV on the front page!! WHAT is it that he's done against you to make you want us to keep this barrage against him???!!!
Oooooooohhh.... now the quandry - how to answer this latest.... or just keep quiet.....very quiet???!!
Muahahahah!!!
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Nice to see some real good value added posting from you and well up to your normal standard too.
WTF use is any of this to the Forum?
I would ask you to refrain from the abuse, unless of course you do actually think I am pretty. Then it could be time to worry.
Until then I would rate your post as contrary to Forum Guidelines i.e.
No Flaming: Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member.
Jackson - Please Remove accordingly.
Cheers, F/Fifty
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[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Nice to see some real good value added posting from you and well up to your normal standard too.
WTF use is any of this to the Forum?
I would ask you to refrain from the abuse, unless of course you do actually think I am pretty. Then it could be time to worry.
Until then I would rate your post as contrary to Forum Guidelines i.e.
No Flaming: Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member.
Jackson - Please Remove accordingly.
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
OK - that's a good come back - respects!
It prompted me to actually read the forum rules and guidelines - and dang if you ain't right - there is NO rule against posting up anybody - even guys you don't know - just like Amavida don't know Irish's new BF.
So.... since we're all sticklers for rules and guidelines......... and whatever... I have actually written to Jackson about the whole thing. Let's see what comes about.
Cheers- yes Cheers and Tally ho!!
SEAJ
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Fifty, what would we do without you?
Fifty, there you go again. Claiming to have everyone's best interest in mind when actually you are part of the problem.
SEA Joe, thanks for the picture. You've made some good points, but it's probably best to let this one go and let karma take care of the rest.
X
[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Nice to see some real good value added posting from you and well up to your normal standard too.
WTF use is any of this to the Forum?
I would ask you to refrain from the abuse, unless of course you do actually think I am pretty. Then it could be time to worry.
Until then I would rate your post as contrary to Forum Guidelines i.e.
No Flaming: Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member.
Jackson - Please Remove accordingly.
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
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By layer
[QUOTE=Houziwang]I'm involved with a Filipina OFW in my S. E. Asian country who is tied down to a sham marriage in the Phils. She is exploring the prospects of an annulment, and tells me she will need to be resident in Phils for an extended period to get it done as the process will require various court appearances.
Can anyone provide some specific background on this? Can she process the annulment while she remains overseas? She will be back in Phils for several weeks near year-end so can get stuff done then, but she doesn't need to be back in Phils 1-2 yrs just to get annulment does she?
Thanks[/QUOTE]She can do it by a layer. You will spend around 100 - 150 000 peso to make it legal.
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The 4 Phases Of A Relationship
Just like dog behaviour I think there are 4 phases to a sex relationship. We have:
1. The sniffing phase
2. The play phase
3. The fuck phase
4. The fuck off phase!
And depending upon the relationship it may be a few minutes to complete all phases to a life-time. Let me develop my theory, with particular emphasis on internet dating.
The sniffing phase, like a couple of dogs circling and appraising each other’s nether regions, involves a simple assessment of could this one be for me? On dating sites it may simply mean responding to some promising profiles, sending emails and expressing interest. It often involves answering or asking a few basic relationship questions about age, marital status, family, location and “why me” questions. It’s the phase you go through that determines whether you are onto a potential winner or not.
The play phase, phase 2, is the one that is the thrill of the hunt, the chase. Is she interested and available? When, where and how far might she go? On the internet I am doing this not so much on the dating site but by moving to Yahoo with cam. Most Filipinas have a Yahoo address and can soon access a cam in the internet café. A live interactive discussion I find the best. And sex-wise I keep it fairly neutral but prepared throw in the double meaning or respond to a sexy comment from the girl. I am definitely not into “show me your tits” but I have frequently asked “what is it that tee shirt of yours says” and she is often willing to get up and do a twirl. At the same time I’m prepared at that point to do a screen capture and save her picture by cutting and pasting to my file notes. As I proceed on chat over the weeks, sometimes months, I am building up my file notes in a word document: pen name, profile number (if applicable), actual name, age, location, job, email address, phone number. I’m also cutting and pasting relevant chat information about interests, birthday, name of any offspring, and in particular, the proclivity to any sex encounter! Generally within a chat or three I know whether they are starters for an encounter or not, but it takes a little further time to build the confidence. I am pretty honest with my approach in that I say I am at the early stage of finding a new relationship and (if asked) that I am contacting and dating others, and that I am willing to visit but I will be moving on. My chat sessions are, if I can work it, a lot of fun and “hehehehehes”. I enjoy phase 2; it is the thrill of the chase.
The fuck phase, phase 3, is the ultimate goal of one’s dick. But there are a couple of anatomical parts that can get in the way, or affect the dick performance. Those body parts are the head and the heart. Of course in a P4P relationship the objective is to quickly pass through phases 1 and 2 to reach phase 3, with the head and heart having little to do with it (except for the contribution from the wallet). But in a married relationship the fuck phase can be a lifetime of varying, often reducing vigour.
Phase 4, the fuck off phase, can be quick and painless for the P4P “hit em and leave ‘em” pursuants. And it can be a lifetime of pleasure, or anguish, in a committed marriage or partnership. I am in between the both. I like to fuck off, but with the prospect I would be welcomed on my return, and often I am.
I am airing my thoughts on this important topic here, but I am still learning and refining my approach. This is my third visit to the Philippines and by far the most successful. I have posted my day by day Davao experiences, mostly achieved through prior internet chat, on the Davao thread. (see April to June postings) For this 66 year old, the Filipina, is a beauty to treasure and behold.
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So...
[QUOTE=KongKing]Just like dog behaviour I think there are 4 phases to a sex relationship. We have:
1. The sniffing phase
2. The play phase
3. The fuck phase
4. The fuck off phase!
And depending upon the relationship it may be a few minutes to complete all phases to a life-time. Let me develop my theory, with particular emphasis on internet dating.
The sniffing phase, like a couple of dogs circling and appraising each other’s nether regions, involves a simple assessment of could this one be for me? On dating sites it may simply mean responding to some promising profiles, sending emails and expressing interest. It often involves answering or asking a few basic relationship questions about age, marital status, family, location and “why me” questions. It’s the phase you go through that determines whether you are onto a potential winner or not.
The play phase, phase 2, is the one that is the thrill of the hunt, the chase. Is she interested and available? When, where and how far might she go? On the internet I am doing this not so much on the dating site but by moving to Yahoo with cam. Most Filipinas have a Yahoo address and can soon access a cam in the internet café. A live interactive discussion I find the best. And sex-wise I keep it fairly neutral but prepared throw in the double meaning or respond to a sexy comment from the girl. I am definitely not into “show me your tits” but I have frequently asked “what is it that tee shirt of yours says” and she is often willing to get up and do a twirl. At the same time I’m prepared at that point to do a screen capture and save her picture by cutting and pasting to my file notes. As I proceed on chat over the weeks, sometimes months, I am building up my file notes in a word document: pen name, profile number (if applicable), actual name, age, location, job, email address, phone number. I’m also cutting and pasting relevant chat information about interests, birthday, name of any offspring, and in particular, the proclivity to any sex encounter! Generally within a chat or three I know whether they are starters for an encounter or not, but it takes a little further time to build the confidence. I am pretty honest with my approach in that I say I am at the early stage of finding a new relationship and (if asked) that I am contacting and dating others, and that I am willing to visit but I will be moving on. My chat sessions are, if I can work it, a lot of fun and “hehehehehes”. I enjoy phase 2; it is the thrill of the chase.
The fuck phase, phase 3, is the ultimate goal of one’s dick. But there are a couple of anatomical parts that can get in the way, or affect the dick performance. Those body parts are the head and the heart. Of course in a P4P relationship the objective is to quickly pass through phases 1 and 2 to reach phase 3, with the head and heart having little to do with it (except for the contribution from the wallet). But in a married relationship the fuck phase can be a lifetime of varying, often reducing vigour.
Phase 4, the fuck off phase, can be quick and painless for the P4P “hit em and leave ‘em” pursuants. And it can be a lifetime of pleasure, or anguish, in a committed marriage or partnership. I am in between the both. I like to fuck off, but with the prospect I would be welcomed on my return, and often I am.
I am airing my thoughts on this important topic here, but I am still learning and refining my approach. This is my third visit to the Philippines and by far the most successful. I have posted my day by day Davao experiences, mostly achieved through prior internet chat, on the Davao thread. (see April to June postings) For this 66 year old, the Filipina, is a beauty to treasure and behold.[/QUOTE]
Very descript definition of FFFF ;)
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[QUOTE=FunnyGoLucky]She can do it by a layer. You will spend around 100 - 150 000 peso to make it legal.[/QUOTE]
If you want a good layer can I volunteer :D. I promise not to charge anywhere near the sum quoted!!
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[QUOTE=KongKing] I am airing my thoughts on this important topic here, but I am still learning and refining my approach. This is my third visit to the Philippines and by far the most successful. I have posted my day by day Davao experiences, mostly achieved through prior internet chat, on the Davao thread. (see April to June postings) For this 66 year old, the Filipina, is a beauty to treasure and behold.[/QUOTE]
Bloody hell Kong - you have really put some time and thought into your 'scientific' approach to fornication. I'm pleased to see its working for you. For simpler souls such as myself, I prefer Blackangst's dictum of the 4F's which I guess amount to the same thing.
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In the interests of balance
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Yeah AV - why dontcha' post a pix of yourself?! Since you think its soooooooo..... OK for you to post another monger's!
SEAJ[/QUOTE]Ok here you go. Now STFU.
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Ok here you go. Now STFU.
AV[/QUOTE]
Damn man you need sunblock!
;) I kid, I kid.
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Good
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]If you want a good layer can I volunteer :D. I promise not to charge anywhere near the sum quoted!![/QUOTE]Ok if I knew samebody need help i will recomend you.
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Thanks man, I was needing a new dart board.
X
BTW, whose picture is this? I think I remember this picture in the National Geographic special about Australian sheep herders.
[QUOTE=Amavida]Ok here you go. Now STFU.
AV[/QUOTE]
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cherry gurls
Hello to all,
happy fathers day :D
Actually Im not a father yet but Im still exersizing...Funny story on the side or maybe not..Finally I screwed my long time GF who told me she was virgin. Well she wasnt..I found no eveidnce and she finally admit she lost her cherry with a pinoy guy one time lol....So after this I think its really funny what they think about virgin or not virgin..Maybe having sex with a pinoy guy doesnt count at all LOL...
So, here we go again, fact my GF lied to me, on the other hand she told me she was afraid to lose me very fast if she would have told me she aint no virgin no more...
Good for me, I wasnt the first and Im not really keen on being the first..so I can say any time bye bye once Im tired of her and she will now do her best to please me ...
Have some other cute gurl coming later, I will move this experience in the chat room section, cause she is now the first chat gurl I met..after being here for 4 months or so...
Life is good but I need some sleep and recharge my batteries....
About the weather..its HOT dam HOT...
Blink out zzzZZzzz
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Blink157
I think we met at the Embassy last month.
Wizard
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Ok here you go. Now STFU.
AV[/QUOTE]
Awwwww....... you didn't need to tell me to STFU -
but "Start The Festivities Up" I certainly will!!
But before anything else...... check out your original post and picture of Irish's new boy friend - that picture is now GONE, snaffu, out-a-here!! Jackson took it OFF - so there!!
Start The Festivities Up:
Top Ten why pictures cain't be trusted
1. Why would ANYONE post up their own picture on this board - exceptin' to get slings and arrows!
2. Cain't really be the real person - where is the humongous chip on the shoulder?
3.
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OK guys - your turn!!
SEAJ
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embassy?
[QUOTE=Wizard561]Blink157
I think we met at the Embassy last month.
Wizard[/QUOTE]
Hi,
is that a new club? LOL, if you refer to the german embassy, I havent went there recently.....and as of now I dont need a visa to go back to my country :D
Seriously wasnt me....a guy like me can nowadays frequently seen at those spots where they show the Eurocup....
reminds me to get up at 2am tomorw morning, cause germany is playing against Austria....well, maybe I will have a massage before the game LOL...
Its gona be a long night again....ha ha ha
LG Life is good, but sometimes somebody needs to rest
Blink
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[QUOTE=Blink157]reminds me to get up at 2am tomorw morning, cause germany is playing against Austria....well, maybe I will have a massage before the game LOL... Its gona be a long night again....ha ha ha Blink[/QUOTE]
Congrats on the victory and advancing to the quarterfinals.
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#3
3. So pointy - does head butts qualify it as a lethal weapon ?
SEAJ
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Awwwww....... you didn't need to tell me to STFU -
but "Start The Festivities Up" I certainly will!!
But before anything else...... check out your original post and picture of Irish's new boy friend - that picture is now GONE, snaffu, out-a-here!! Jackson took it OFF - so there!!
Start The Festivities Up:
Top Ten why pictures cain't be trusted
1. Why would ANYONE post up their own picture on this board - exceptin' to get slings and arrows!
2. Cain't really be the real person - where is the humongous chip on the shoulder?
3.
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OK guys - your turn!!
SEAJ[/QUOTE]Why do I get the creepy feeling Im conversing with a third grader?
BTW where's YOUR pic?
Oh that's right.. self righteous small minded people always are cowards
AV
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[QUOTE=Amavida]Why do I get the creepy feeling Im conversing with a third grader?
BTW where's YOUR pic?
Oh that's right.. self righteous small minded people always are cowards
AV[/QUOTE]
Takes one to know one I say!!
My PIC????!!! You gotta be outa your mind.... oh yeah... I forgot.... YOU really are out of your....
Muahahaha!!!
SEAJ
ps. you really know how to feed the troll huh??!!
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#4
4. Brain got scalloped out. Result = pointy head.
SEAJ
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You Won... Lets Turn The Page Shall We?
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Awwwww....... you didn't need to tell me to STFU -
but "Start The Festivities Up" I certainly will!!
But before anything else...... check out your original post and picture of Irish's new boy friend - that picture is now GONE, snaffu, out-a-here!! Jackson took it OFF - so there!!
Start The Festivities Up:
Top Ten why pictures cain't be trusted
1. Why would ANYONE post up their own picture on this board - exceptin' to get slings and arrows!
2. Cain't really be the real person - where is the humongous chip on the shoulder?
3.
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OK guys - your turn!!
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Congrats on the victory and advancing to the quarterfinals.
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Congrats on the victory and advancing to the quarterfinals.[/QUOTE]
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
Naaaahh..... actually I do "sort of' agree with you. Especially since I would think that AV should have by now realized that he has taken the Mickey out of himself! I only helped him along to show his ignorance.
On the other hand, it does seem that AV don't seem to ever know when he's wrong.
Had to actually ask Jackson to intervene to get the picture removed.
Something that I wish that AV would have had enough sense to have done so himself, especially after so many people had pointed it out to him that he was wrong to have posted up a picture of a third party.
And all that bleating by 50-50 - I don't know what's his problem - when its got nuthin to do w/him.
and then now.....all this weak suppossedly come backs by AV - like I said, he really knows how to feed the trolls!!
SEAJ
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Isnt this site about sex/girls/sex
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
Naaaahh..... actually I do "sort of' agree with you. Especially since I would think that AV should have by now realized that he has taken the Mickey out of himself! I only helped him along to show his ignorance.
On the other hand, it does seem that AV don't seem to ever know when he's wrong.
Had to actually ask Jackson to intervene to get the picture removed.
Something that I wish that AV would have had enough sense to have done so himself, especially after so many people had pointed it out to him that he was wrong to have posted up a picture of a third party.
And all that bleating by 50-50 - I don't know what's his problem - when its got nuthin to do w/him.
and then now.....all this weak suppossedly come backs by AV - like I said, he really knows how to feed the trolls!!
SEAJ[/QUOTE]Isn't this site about sex/girls/sex
I know I haven't been on this board or posted any near as much as a lot of people but I rally can't believe that this is topic continues.
Note to AV just ignore it, and go on with your excellent posts. They are really apreaciated.
SEA Joe, isn't there a rock somehwere you can crawl back under?
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Enough SEAJ
Would you kindly stop pissing on AV??? OK you won!!!
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Cherry Gurls (sic)
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello to all, Finally I screwed my long time GF who told me she was virgin. Well she wasnt..I found no eveidnce and she finally admit she lost her cherry with a pinoy guy one time lol....So after this I think its really funny what they think about virgin or not virgin..Maybe having sex with a pinoy guy doesnt count at all LOL...
Blink out zzzZZzzz[/QUOTE]G'day Blink, read your interesting & always entertaining post ;) Don't get too cut up about it hehehe ;)
Seems like there are two points I can think of in relation to this virgin thing.
First most every young girl succumbs to the fantasy dream of falling in love with a nice pinoy guy.. So many of them get screwed over & shatter their dreams. Its hard to understand how young women who have by necessity grown up mentally tough & resourceful can be so vulnerable to lothario's... maybe its the carpet bombing of txt messages that brainwashes them? ;)
After they have been traumatized they then go on to chase foreigners who they fantasize about as being richer/more reliable. Incidentally my straw poll of girls in my district tells me virtually ALL college girls here get on the net to a greater or lesser extent & most have already started messing with dating/chat sites. Its almost like they kinda know deep down inside that they are gonna get screwed over & are already working on 'Plan B'.
Second, even though premarital sex is much more prevalent these days, a brides purity is still traditionally pushed by family.
I think In her own way she was trying to show you respect by doing the 'good girl' thing for you. Forcing her to admit she has already been poked by a horny little pinoy guy just kinda spoils the illusion & destroys the romance a little. C'mon Blinky, she knows you have screwed others & you know she has also too. Don't give her a hard time about it.
On the other hand maybe she is just a lying little bleep bleep.. what do I know?
C'Ya
AV
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Cherry Myth
[QUOTE=Amavida]G'day Blink, read your interesting & always entertaining post ;) Don't get too cut up about it hehehe ;)
Seems like there are two points I can think of in relation to this virgin thing.
First most every young girl succumbs to the fantasy dream of falling in love with a nice pinoy guy.. So many of them get screwed over & shatter their dreams. Its hard to understand how young women who have by necessity grown up mentally tough & resourceful can be so vulnerable to lothario's... maybe its the carpet bombing of txt messages that brainwashes them? ;)
After they have been traumatized they then go on to chase foreigners who they fantasize about as being richer/more reliable. Incidentally my straw poll of girls in my district tells me virtually ALL college girls here get on the net to a greater or lesser extent & most have already started messing with dating/chat sites. Its almost like they kinda know deep down inside that they are gonna get screwed over & are already working on 'Plan B'.
Second, even though premarital sex is much more prevalent these days, a brides purity is still traditionally pushed by family.
I think In her own way she was trying to show you respect by doing the 'good girl' thing for you. Forcing her to admit she has already been poked by a horny little pinoy guy just kinda spoils the illusion & destroys the romance a little. C'mon Blinky, she knows you have screwed others & you know she has also too. Don't give her a hard time about it.
On the other hand maybe she is just a lying little bleep bleep.. what do I know?
C'Ya
AV[/QUOTE]
I have not met a Filipina yet who was a virgin and if they told me they were I would not believe it. They act shy but they are some of the most sexually charged women I have every been around in my life. Most I have encountered and were told about their past I have found they gave up the virginity way to easy.
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Senior Member or Trash???
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
And all that bleating by 50-50 - I don't know what's his problem - when its got nuthin to do w/him.SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Could somebody please explain (if possible) why we are having to suffer this level of 'garbage posting' from SEAJ a Senior Member of this Forum.
As for ''its got nuthin to do with him''
Well as a Member of this Forum, everything posted here as something to do with me, that is how an Open Online Forum works.
In my opinion, and that of many others, SEAJ has shown himself to be a ''Serial Antagoniser'' displaying no regard to General Forum Rules protecting other members; which he has broken in every one of his recent posts and he needs to be ''rewarded'' for this.
It is time for the Senior Members here to act and ''Throw out the Trash''
For the time being, SEAJ is on my ''Ignore'' list. (Thanks Jackson)
Cheers, F/Fifty
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On your ignore list? If you had done a little ignoring early on, this would never have gone on.
What a preposterous claim: "everything posted here has something to do with me".
Let me do something SEAJoe did a while back. Post a pic and suggest we move on.
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[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]Could somebody please explain (if possible) why we are having to suffer this level of 'garbage posting' from SEAJ a Senior Member of this Forum.
As for ''its got nuthin to do with him''
Well as a Member of this Forum, everything posted here as something to do with me, that is how an Open Online Forum works.
In my opinion, and that of many others, SEAJ has shown himself to be a ''Serial Antagoniser'' displaying no regard to General Forum Rules protecting other members; which he has broken in every one of his recent posts and he needs to be ''rewarded'' for this.
It is time for the Senior Members here to act and ''Throw out the Trash''
For the time being, SEAJ is on my ''Ignore'' list. (Thanks Jackson)
Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]
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Virginity true or not
[QUOTE=D Etat]I have not met a Filipina yet who was a virgin and if they told me they were I would not believe it. They act shy but they are some of the most sexually charged women I have every been around in my life. Most I have encountered and were told about their past I have found they gave up the virginity way to easy.[/QUOTE]You're hangin' around with the wrong crowd D Etat! hehehe joke lang ;)
Asawa ko was a virgin when I married her, it was inconsequential to me but it was a matter of principle for her & I can respect that. My 18Yr old college girl in Manila was a virgin until we met. Yes they do exist.
AV
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[QUOTE=X Man]On your ignore list? If you had done a little ignoring early on, this would never have gone on.
What a preposterous claim: "everything posted here has something to do with me".
Let me do something SEAJoe did a while back. Post a pic and suggest we move on.
X[/QUOTE]Shut up X Man, you give me the shits with your with these endless nit picking posts.
AV
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Has this thread suddenly changed into the photo gallery whilst I wasn't looking ;).
Fifty - agree with your post although it is perhaps better not to feed the trolls, which may be why you have yet to respond to the next post.
AV - see advice above. Maybe best you utilise the ignore option too, although it could be that you secretly enjoy the Craic :D GH
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Bigfoot, Loch Ness Monster, Filipina Virgin, Same/Same
[QUOTE=Amavida]You're hangin' around with the wrong crowd D Etat! hehehe joke lang ;)
Asawa ko was a virgin when I married her, it was inconsequential to me but it was a matter of principle for her & I can respect that. My 18Yr old college girl in Manila was a virgin until we met. Yes they do exist.
AV[/QUOTE]
Sorry AV but the Filipina virgin for me is like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster. Many have claimed they spotted one and had photographic proof but I am still not convinced.
I heard of a story from a bar girl friend of mine of a Filipina way below legal age fucking guys like crazy. About a month ago I was in a bar where after taking my seat and enjoying the festivities one girl on stage was fully nude was how can I put this… not of legal working age. I was informed of this by her two friends who sat at by my side.
Had one educated friend in Cebu highly intelligent. Everytime I said something sexual in nature she became a little shy and defensive. I thought she was a virgin. Nope turned out some jobless Pinoy whom she took care from Manila had already did the deed.
Believe it or not I have met more virgins in the damn US then I have in this country.
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The Virgin Pilipina - A Myth??
A very 'straight and honest' Pinay girl is going to Manila to meet her new foreign boyfriend met on DIA. Before she left, her mother gave her some advice: "Daughter, when you're in Manila and if you're looking for a match there, you must take note of the following the requirements mother set for you. You must make sure that your man is faithful', 'thrifty' and must be a 'virgin'.
A few days later she rings home.
"Mother, I've met the my match following your instructions. My future husband is faithful because when we went out for day trip one day, he took care of me specifically even though there were so many prettier girls around. Isn't that being faithful?"
Her mother said yes he must be faithful.
"Then, since the day was getting late in the night and rain was pouring, my boyfriend decided that we stay the night at Sogo Hotel. He also suggested that in order not to spend too much, they'll share one room only. Isn't he not thrifty guy?"
For the second time her mother agreed, but with a little concern.
"And finally mum..., I know he is a virgin"
"How did you know he is still a virgin?" the mother asked with trepidition. "MMM...his 'titi' is still new and hard.... All wrapped up in plastic, mum!"
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Sorry AV but the Filipina virgin for me is like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster. Many have claimed they spotted one and had photographic proof but I am still not convinced.
Amavida is correct--there are plenty of virgins. Guys who know only mongering venues of the P.I. gross out regular girls, virgin or not, by approaching every filipina as a ***** or a ****. Stick to those you know to be bar girls.
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No Gamahucher, it is currently the thread for those obsessed with virgins. Although I find the topic uninteresting, I would never be so churlish as to tell other people to "shut up".
BTW, there is no requirement that photos be posted only in the photo section, as far as I know. Sorry, if I'm mistaken about that.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Has this thread suddenly changed into the photo gallery whilst I wasn't looking ;).
Fifty - agree with your post although it is perhaps better not to feed the trolls, which may be why you have yet to respond to the next post.
AV - see advice above. Maybe best you utilise the ignore option too, although it could be that you secretly enjoy the Craic :D GH[/QUOTE]
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Tatoo or tatooless?
Well, this is the Filipinas thread, so let me present one of my many quandries.
Like many people, I had some unhealthy Christian values drummed into my head. Easy girls were bad....oh, brother. What an oxymoron!
I never had a virgin fetish, but I certainly avoided tatoos and piercings, which seemed to be symbolic of easy women, or maybe independent / strong / aggressive women. Even when I started chasing p4p, I had no interest in ladies with tatoos+
One night at I found this dancer who said it was her first night. Her colleagues confirmed it. Well, it was her first night at that bar, but she had some mileage. I found that out when I got her to my room. I was so quick to barfine her, I never noticed the big tatoo on her back/ass. Nevertheless, she was sweet and sure knew how to do a lip massage of my Anaconda. I suddenly saw tatoos in a different light.
I still have a mental block about tatoos and piercings, but this is one case where the little head may make more sense than the big head.
So, what are your feelings about ladies with tattoes, piercings????
BTW, the girl in my earlier post had a vagina ring. Kind of weird having cold steel sensation while lapping at the Y.
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ladies with tattoes
[QUOTE=X Man]So, what are your feelings about ladies with tattoes, piercings????[/QUOTE]I like girls with a Tramp Stamp (Tattoo on Lower Back). To me it means F#$& me in the Ass.
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[QUOTE=X Man]Well, this is the Filipinas thread, so let me present one of my many quandries.
So, what are your feelings about ladies with tattoes, piercings????
BTW, the girl in my earlier post had a vagina ring. Kind of weird having cold steel sensation while lapping at the Y.[/QUOTE]
X Man
I am not a fan of lots of tattoos, all over the body etc turns me off as do too many piercings. But...a nice tattoo is quite sexy (ie one) and a BBBJ from a girl with a toungue is lovely too.
Nipple rings and pussy pierce? Can take it or leave it.
Too many or either, instant limp todger - basically I don't take to my 'fucking room'
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[QUOTE=Houziwang]I'm involved with a Filipina OFW in my S. E. Asian country who is tied down to a sham marriage in the Phils. She is exploring the prospects of an annulment, and tells me she will need to be resident in Phils for an extended period to get it done as the process will require various court appearances.
Can anyone provide some specific background on this? Can she process the annulment while she remains overseas? She will be back in Phils for several weeks near year-end so can get stuff done then, but she doesn't need to be back in Phils 1-2 yrs just to get annulment does she?Thanks[/QUOTE]I am curious, have you visited the Philippines?
Robb
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]I am curious, have you visited the Philippines?
Robb[/QUOTE]Only a couple times, but stuck to pros and never bothered learning about the marriage regime there. My new girl has really opened my eyes. What a f*cked up mess.
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Sham Marriage
This is question better put to a Filipino lawyer. Pay the money for a consultation but get good references on an honest lawyer.
Trust me, I'm a lawyer.
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Yeah We All Only Know Bar Girls...
[QUOTE=Cbea20]Amavida is correct--there are plenty of virgins. Guys who know only mongering venues of the P.I. gross out regular girls, virgin or not, by approaching every filipina as a ***** or a ****. Stick to those you know to be bar girls.[/QUOTE]
Once again I think I to have run down my mother fucking resume. I have been around Filipinas in the States, Dubai and Japan. These girls’ lives revolve around sex. I have business women friends in Dubai who got high-paying square jobs. I had an accountant in Cebu young girl 22 tell me she loves sex. I know many in Japan and The States who are not working bars but casual sex is just something they don’t mind doing…Don’t believe that shy innocent demeanor in most cases its bullshit. I treat no women like a quote and quote “*****” hell not even *****s.
I remember the first Filipina I ever fucked she was not at all like that stereotype so falsely portrayed all over the internet. I was taking back by her aggressiveness and eagerness to fuck. Non-bar girl provincial girl now married in New York. Many have came after her and the story is the same.
Gross them out...You guys are sure not in PI for that mythical shy demeanor.
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[QUOTE=X Man]
So, what are your feelings about ladies with tattoes, piercings????
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I like the back tattoo, as long as it is not to high above or below their jeans/pants. It can look sexy if placed in the right place. It needs to be placed so you can not see all and want to know what is under her pants, and not too high where you can see all and have no interest in what is below the panty line. A small tattoo on the shoulder blade is ok too. Arms, legs and stomach is a turn off for me.
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Don't get me started!!
[QUOTE=X Man]
One night at I found this dancer who said it was her first night. Her colleagues confirmed it. Well, it was her first night at that bar, but she had some mileage. I found that out when I got her to my room. I was so quick to barfine her, I never noticed the big tatoo on her back/ass. Nevertheless, she was sweet and sure knew how to do a lip massage of my Anaconda. I suddenly saw tatoos in a different light.
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The tattoo on her lower back looked OK but not so sure about the big black X on her ass cheek :D.
When I was in my youth, only sailors and squaddies had tattoo's and only pikeys and puffs (amongst men) had piercings. These days everyone seems to have them. You see daft old codgers with earrings trying to pretend they look hip when in fact they look like arseholes. And you see, otherwise attractive, girls covered in 'body art', which to my reactionary mindset, will always look cheap and nasty. I particularly hate them large lower back efforts which in UK (and in the US probably as well) usually sit above a displayed thong barely covering an amply padded ass. Like Aussieoverboard, I always feel they may as well have a downward pointing arrow and 'Fuck here' tattooed above it.
Another thing I always think, is although they think they look chic now, in thirty to forty years time when they are old and wrinkly grannies and granddads, their faded body art won't look so good then as age and gravity click in. Then it will be a boom time for expensive laser removal clinics.
I am pleased that 'body art' is still quite rare amongst Pinays, although it seems to have taken off big style amongst Thai girls. I guess that if they are small, discreet and tastefully done they can be attractive but as in many things in life, more is frequently seen as better, and then they are a big turn off as is finding ironmongery affixed to a girls intimate places. Although I must admit that a lingual stud, used properly, can be remarkably effective ;)
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On The Fence.....
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]The tattoo on her lower back looked OK but not so sure about the big black X on her ass cheek :D.
When I was in my youth, only sailors and squaddies had tattoo's and only pikeys and puffs (amongst men) had piercings. These days everyone seems to have them. You see daft old codgers with earrings trying to pretend they look hip when in fact they look like arseholes. And you see, otherwise attractive, girls covered in 'body art', which to my reactionary mindset, will always look cheap and nasty. I particularly hate them large lower back efforts which in UK (and in the US probably as well) usually sit above a displayed thong barely covering an amply padded ass. Like Aussieoverboard, I always feel they may as well have a downward pointing arrow and 'Fuck here' tattooed above it.
Another thing I always think, is although they think they look chic now, in thirty to forty years time when they are old and wrinkly grannies and granddads, their faded body art won't look so good then as age and gravity click in. Then it will be a boom time for expensive laser removal clinics.
I am pleased that 'body art' is still quite rare amongst Pinays, although it seems to have taken off big style amongst Thai girls. I guess that if they are small, discreet and tastefully done they can be attractive but as in many things in life, more is frequently seen as better, and then they are a big turn off as is finding ironmongery affixed to a girls intimate places. Although I must admit that a lingual stud, used properly, can be remarkably effective ;)[/QUOTE]
I am on the fence I don't think a girl is a **** if she has one. I know plenty of girls who bodies are spotless and can suck a golf ball through a garden hose. But I would prefer a lady who didn't have one....
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Tramp Stamp ?
[QUOTE=X Man]I still have a mental block about tatoos and piercings, but this is one case where the little head may make more sense than the big head.[/QUOTE]Sage advise!?
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fuke and forget?
Mattrick, thanks for the pic. Did you spend any time with that one? You gotta wonder what that heck is/was going on in her mind....
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[QUOTE=Mattrick]Sage advise!?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mattrick]Sage advise!?[/QUOTE]
Not a Pinay I would hazard. Thai?? Is the advice aimed as a mantra for herself (if so in the wrong place) or designed to be heeded by the reader? I wonder.
If the female body is a temple, she has scrawled obscenities on the walls :(
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[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Trust me, I'm a lawyer.[/QUOTE]Hahaha! Thanks for that laugh.
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A typical DAI/Friendster headline
"Only god can judge me! " or "If you are judgemental move on!"
Good grief, talk about being defensive! What's with some of these gals being so defensive about beind judged? The GF I met in manila had a friend who posted on DAI with those exact words (only god can judge me").
I mean, everyone's judgemental to one extent or another. Ironically, the psycho GF I met in Manila said I was too judgemental (I asked her how she got her money since she changed her story a few times from having saved up or her "grandparents" in the U. S. Sent her money)
FWIW, I've never had an American gal say anything like this, usually they'd be the ones judging me and toward the end of the relationship, their judgement deemed that I was an asshole.
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]"Only god can judge me! " or "If you are judgemental move on!"
Good grief, talk about being defensive! What's with some of these gals being so defensive about beind judged? The GF I met in manila had a friend who posted on DAI with those exact words (only god can judge me").
I mean, everyone's judgemental to one extent or another. Ironically, the psycho GF I met in Manila said I was too judgemental (I asked her how she got her money since she changed her story a few times from having saved up or her "grandparents" in the U. S. Sent her money)
FWIW, I've never had an American gal say anything like this, usually they'd be the ones judging me and toward the end of the relationship, their judgement deemed that I was an asshole.[/QUOTE]Very simple lives.. poor english.. Church is only source of vaguely intellectual stimulation... cargo cult mentality to foreigners.. anyone wanna keep adding to this list?
AV
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[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]... honest lawyer...[/QUOTE]
Can these two words even go together? :D
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Honest Lawyer?
[QUOTE=Raverboy]Can these two words even go together? :D[/QUOTE]Gentlemen,
I know I will be napalmed for my defense of lawyers but. Being one, I have found lawyers, in general, are as honest as the general population, which is not saying much. LOL. I do civil lititagation and see witnesses, plaintiffs, and defendants lie like rugs. IMHO.
Meluvulogtime
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A History Of Soliciting
Continued from Angeles Thread.... [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=759570&posted=1#post759570[/url]
There it is again. Some guys think they are the only ones who know non-bar girl type in PI or other places. I have been around Filipinas in Dubai, Japan and in PI. The scenery changes but the game remains the same.
I had one friend in Dubai an admin specialist who was married and would still ask me to buy her stuff. One time I said don’t you think your husband will be upset by this? she goes oh “My husband is very happy with me.” One of my ole lady friends in Japan was married and was still milking Japanese guys out of Yen. Another friend of mine in Japan was single had two jobs clocking about $4000 a month and still was bleeding Japanese guys showing me her $3000 Cartier watch. It’s a dirty game.
The first Filipina I experienced about 4 years ago when I was green as a football field grass, when I did not know the P4P scene existed was a provincial girl. Early in the relationship she never asked for anything but then she started and it got to the point where she started lying to achieve her goal… it was not her I might add but family pressure till I finally told her to take a hike then she tried to commit suicide. It’s a fucked up world She now resides in New York with her newly wed husband.
There is one Nurse from Cebu I have been chatting with for last few months who I spent time with two months ago. She never asks for money but the consistent whining about financial problems really burns a hole in your ears.
I would like to add I don’t fit the monger stereotype. Late 20s, excellent shape. My eyes are open and I see PI for what it really is I just moved her 6 months ago. It amazes me how some guys live here for years on end and still live in a dream world. What ever they are smoking please pass that shit….
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I truly don't know where this comes from! For me, the gold diggers have been the exception rather than the rule -- and that goes for both p4p and regular women. I've been dating Filipinas for 25 years now.
Is it possible you are chasing the wrong king of women? Do you find yourself attracted to women wearing flashy clothes and jewelry? Or maybe you are the one dressed like Mr. Moneybags?
Of course you already know that many of the Filipinas in Japan came over to work in the mizu shobai business. I have a Filipina friend in Tokyo -- seems like a great lady and she is. Her Japanese ex-husband is in prison.... These ladies often came from background not unlike those you meet in AC or Burgos.
D'etat, I would think you of all people would be the one to avoid overly negative stereotypes of an entire race of people.
D'etat's warning are valid, I'm not disagreeing with the advice not to send money. Nevertheless, I'm curious about why his experiences are so different than my own.
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Continued from Angeles Thread.... [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=759570&posted=1#post759570[/url]
There it is again. Some guys think they are the only ones who know non-bar girl type in PI or other places. I have been around Filipinas in Dubai, Japan and in PI. The scenery changes but the game remains the same.
I had one friend in Dubai who was married and would still ask me to buy her stuff. One time I said don’t you think your husband will be upset by this? she goes oh “My husband is very happy with me.” One of my ole lady friends in Japan was married and was still milking Japanese guys out of Yen. Another friend of mine in Japan was single had two jobs clocking about $4000 a month and still was bleeding Japanese guys showing me her $3000 Cartier watch. It’s a dirty game.
The first Filipina I experienced about 4 years ago when I was green as a football field grass, when I did not know the P4P scene existed was a provincial girl. Early in the relationship she never asked for anything but then she started and it got to the point where she started lying to achieve her goal… it was not her I might add but family pressure till I finally told her to take a hike then she tried to commit suicide. It’s a fucked up world She now resides in New York with her newly wed husband.
There is one Nurse from Cebu I have been chatting with for last few months who I spent time with two months ago. She never asks for money but the consistent whining about financial problems really burns a hole in your ears.
I would like to add I don’t fit the monger stereotype. Late 20s, excellent shape. My eyes are open and I see PI for what it really is I just moved her 6 months ago. It amazes me how some guys live here for years on end and still live in a dream world. What ever they are smoking please pass that shit….[/QUOTE]
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Fall Back
[QUOTE=X Man]I truly don't know where this comes from! For me, the gold diggers have been the exception rather than the rule -- and that goes for both p4p and regular women. I've been dating Filipinas for 25 years now.
Is it possible you are chasing the wrong king of women? Do you find yourself attracted to women wearing flashy clothes and jewelry? Or maybe you are the one dressed like Mr. Moneybags?
Of course you already know that many of the Filipinas in Japan came over to work in the mizu shobai business. I have a Filipina friend in Tokyo -- seems like a great lady and she is. Her Japanese ex-husband is in prison.... These ladies often came from background not unlike those you meet in AC or Burgos.
D'etat, I would think you of all people would be the one to avoid overly negative stereotypes of an entire race of people.
D'etat's warning are valid, I'm not disagreeing with the advice not to send money. Nevertheless, I'm curious about why his experiences are so different than my own.
X[/QUOTE]
X I said I was going to ignore you and have been for the last few months but now you are ultimately calling me a racist and being Black that gets under my skin like a dirty syringe.
I have been in a relationship with a Japanese bred Filipina for the last two years. She is great woman that’s why I stick around. Her family is great also. She has a real estate mogul cousin based in Japan who got her start in those Hostess Clubs in Japan (You seem to know a lot about) who I get financial advice from and who helps me with my investment interest in PI. Every time I am in town a party is thrown at their expense for me.
Those girls and clubs in Japan are nothing like the bars in Manila and AC. The girls working in Japan earn a decent salary and they don’t have to fuck their customers. They do have to create an illusion of attraction which they are very skilled at for the most part.
There is no wrong type of women. The lines are blurred X especially in Asia. There simple those who work in the bar and those who don’t. At some point that financial burden of the family always pops up. I find it exceptionally hard to believe that you have not experienced any of this. In your opinion what makes a women a gold digger? If she allows you to fuck her for free and run off who is the winner and who is the loser in that situation?
I am simple stating to others and guys be warned. If you are looking for love its best to find it in a women with a career and her own money and not in a third world country where a women getting involved with you is the equivalent of her hitting the lottery.
X lets be respectful and not make innuendo comments about others being a racist until you got the facts. I am not painting with a wide brush.
I remember when I first started working Dubai all my Indian co-workers proclaimed all Filipina were *****s I debated against this profusely. I now know this not to be true but I realize that is what they experienced simple as that.
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A Thin Dividing Line
I once had a Dutch friend in Jakarta, married to an Indonesian, who, when I was still a naive and idealistic young man explained to me that the Asian and Western concepts of "love" had very little in common. While in the West it's all about a romantic ideal, and finding one's "soul mate," in Asia it's a hell of a lot more pragmatic and relates to financial security and perhaps furthering family or clan interests. I think that this may be one of the issues that D Etat is getting at here.
For many girls in the Philippines, particularly poor women, relationships are inextricably related to satisfying the utang na loob (the debt of the heart) imposed or precipitated by their families. Because of their circumstances--both economic and emotional--this obligation is paramount and satisfying the obligation takes money above all else. These women cannot afford to be overly romantic. They need to be practical.
This is not said in the way of judgment, but merely to comment on the existence of two very different value systems. Though it's possible, it's not very helpful to judge one in terms of the other. The westerner expects a woman to "love me for myself," whereas a Filipina, or a Thai, or an Indonesian knows that there are always other factors--often more important factors--to consider. Those westerners who cannot accept this basic, essential difference in perspective are probably not going to find many totally satisfying relationships here.
GE
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Thank you for the thoughtful post.
I realize there is a grey area between stereotyping and racism, but I never accused you of being racist. I suggested that you were writing negative stereotypes.
Yes, I know that you are ethnically black -- I've known that since we first exchanged pm -- just as YOU know that I currently live in Japan. Why the innuendo?
So, the "(Filipina) girls in Japan are nothing like those in the Philippines". Okay, sorry, but I thought you were making the exact opposite assertion -- that they are all going to ask you for money. Once again we have a failure to communicate.
"gets under my skin like a dirty syringe". Are you quoting a rap song, or is that an original?
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[QUOTE=D Etat]X I said I was going to ignore you and have been for the last few months but now you are ultimately calling me a racist and being Black that gets under my skin like a dirty syringe.
I have been in a relationship with a Japanese bred Filipina for the last two years. She is great woman that’s why I stick around. Her family is great also. She has a real estate mogul cousin based in Japan who got her start in those Hostess Clubs in Japan (You seem to know a lot about) who I get financial advice from and who helps me with my investment interest in PI. Every time I am in town a party is thrown at their expense for me.
Those girls and clubs in Japan are nothing like the bars in Manila and AC. The girls working in Japan earn a decent salary and they don’t have to fuck their customers. They do have to create an illusion of attraction which they are very skilled at for the most part.
There is no wrong type of women. The lines are blurred X especially in Asia. There simple those who work in the bar and those who don’t. At some point that financial burden of the family always pops up. I find it exceptionally hard to believe that you have not experienced any of this. In your opinion what makes a women a gold digger? If she allows you to fuck her for free and run off who is the winner and who is the loser in that situation?
I am simple stating to others and guys be warned. If you are looking for love its best to find it in a women with a career and her own money and not in a third world country where a women getting involved with you is the equivalent of her hitting the lottery.
X lets be respectful and not make innuendo comments about others being a racist until you got the facts. I am not painting with a wide brush.
I remember when I first started working Dubai all my Indian co-workers proclaimed all Filipina were *****s I debated against this profusely. I now know this not to be true but I realize that is what they experienced simple as that.[/QUOTE]
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Thank you for your insight GE -- I hadn't interpreted D'etat's post this way, but your angle seems to fit nicely with what he's said.
You didn't mention Japanese, but since I was married to one, I can confirm that even there the family unit, the "clan", does often take precedence -- especially when a spouse is a foreigner. As soon as the baby is born, many husbands calll their wives "momma" and wives call their husbands "papa". Yuck!
I've heard the term "utang na loob" before, but wanted to read up on the subject. I found the web site below -- which is good, but very basic. If anyone has any other web sites or books to recommend about Filipino behavior / society / culture, please share.
[url]http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/philculture/filipino_society_culture.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I once had a Dutch friend in Jakarta, married to an Indonesian, who, when I was still a naive and idealistic young man explained to me that the Asian and Western concepts of "love" had very little in common. While in the West it's all about a romantic ideal, and finding one's "soul mate," but in Asia it's a hell of a lot more pragmatic and relates to financial security and perhaps furthering family or clan interests. I think that this may be one of the issues that D Etat is getting at here.
For many girls in the Philippines, particularly poor women, relationships are inextricably related to satisfying the utang na loob (the debt of the heart) imposed or precipitated by their families. Because of their circumstances--both economic and emotional--this obligation is paramount and satisfying the obligation takes money above all else. These women cannot afford to be overly romantic. They need to be practical.
This is not said in the way of judgment, but merely to comment on the existence of two very different value systems. Though it's possible, it's not very helpful to judge one in terms of the other. The westerner expects a woman to "love me for myself," whereas a Filipina, or a Thai, or an Indonesian knows that there are always other factors--often more important factors--to consider. Those westerners who cannot accept this basic, essential difference in perspective are probably not going to find many totally satisfying relationships here.
GE[/QUOTE]
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Utang and such
I know that group well as I've belonged to it for a while. It's okay. The best explanation I found on the subject was written by a Philippine Sociologist from Ateneo de Manila, but I forget the title. I may still have it and I will try to find it and cite it.
I think that literally translated the term means something like "debt of the heart," or perhaps of the soul. It's a feeling of almost absolute obligation that a child owes to his or her parents the the privilege of being born. Somehow or another, the "utang" extends to the entire family. That's the concept as I understand it but I'm sure my understanding is imperfect as it is of so many aspects of this culture.
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Breadown In Communication
[QUOTE=X Man]Thank you for the thoughtful post.
I realize there is a grey area between stereotyping and racism, but I never accused you of being racist. I suggested that you were writing negative stereotypes.
Yes, I know that you are ethnically black -- I've known that since we first exchanged pm -- just as YOU know that I currently live in Japan. Why the innuendo?
So, the "(Filipina) girls in Japan are nothing like those in the Philippines". Okay, sorry, but I thought you were making the exact opposite assertion -- that they are all going to ask you for money. Once again we have a failure to communicate.
"gets under my skin like a dirty syringe". Are you quoting a rap song, or is that an original?
X[/QUOTE]
Yes I am saying the Filipinos I have met in various locations solicit money from would be individuals. In Japan and Dubai the Filipinas are brash and in most cases sophisticated. They will on the other hand fleece you if you are green for much more then the girls in PI.
Now how they differ is that to get their pussies it requires more then just being a damn foreigner, cell phone and a trip to SM which is what I am finding to be all that is required in PI. So tell me X if not the money that’s attracting the girls in PI to you what is it? You live in Japan so did I. There over 500,000 Filipinas in Japan. So why do you waste the airfare? Come on man be straight with the board.
You caught me red-handed..quoting a rap song bruh...
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Be straight about what?
D'etat
My original post suggested that you were making negative stereotypes. You don't seem to have addressed the topic, but somehow are asking me to prove myself in some way that I don't understand. In good faith, I'll try to answer...
I have my plate full with Japanese women at the moment, so why do I spend money on going to the Philippines? That wasn't your exact question, but close enough. And a good question it is....I've often asked it myself. This money could be put in the bank or used for other purposes!!! Maybe I'm one of those guys to belong in the sexaholic therapy groups! I might be having great sex with a stunning woman, but the excitement of another woman the next night is rather compelling.
Okay, why do I go to the Philippines. Well, the women in the Philppines are a bit younger, cuter, than the ones I date in Japan. I have to admit I like the wham, bam, thanku mam scenario that comes so easy in the Philippines with the p4p. Some of the guys here on this list have wives and they go to the Philippines for some R&R. What is there to explain.....the grass is always greener....
I also love going to the Philippines because I can get around a bit very cheaply, take some pictures, I can speak English to most everyone... I even meet a few blokes that I've met here at ISG. I can honestly say that of the top 10 Philippine posters at ISG, I've met four. I'm not counting CebuLocal, who I only talked to on the phone, and has sadly disappeared from the ISG boards.
I've also enjoy meeting regular Filipina women ...a bit of cultural exchange...sometimes things more intimate. I seduced a dentist in Japan and I did it in Philippines too. The Filipina was a lot cuter though.
Basically, it's holiday with some damn good sex involved. Why am I answering this question? What is the question?
Yes I know my 1st world income gives me some advantages in the 3rd world. That wasn't the topic. I think your original assertion was that Filipinas anywhere and everywhere will be hitting you up for money. That is not my experience.
Anyway, looking forward to your posts in the future.
X
[QUOTE=D Etat]So tell me X if not the money that’s attracting the girls in PI to you what is it? You live in Japan so did I. There over 500,000 Filipinas in Japan. So why do you waste the airfare? Come on man be straight with the board.
You caught me red-handed..quoting a rap song bruh...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]This is question better put to a Filipino lawyer. Pay the money for a consultation but get good references on an honest lawyer.
Trust me, I'm a lawyer.[/QUOTE]
I seems like every post of yours has you stating what you do for a living. I am the president of the United States and do you hear me bragging?
Just post your comments and rid of your status buddy!
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Tongue in Cheek
[QUOTE=Columpuss]I seems like every post of yours has you stating what you do for a living. I am the president of the United States and do you hear me bragging?
Just post your comments and rid of your status buddy![/QUOTE]
Duhhhhh, ever heard anybody joke?
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[QUOTE=D Etat]There over 500,000 Filipinas in Japan. So why do you waste the airfare? Come on man be straight with the board.[/QUOTE]Having spent 5 years living in Japan and now living in the Philippines, Filipina's living abroad are very much different then those who have never left. If you want a Filipina in Japan, you have to be willing to pay and I am not talking about a BF, I am talking about spending big money and you have to compete with the rich Japanese. If it was the same here as in Japan, why would there be so many Japanese men here? When I was in Japan, I dated Japanese ladies, but IMHO nothing compares to Filipina’s in the Philippines.
Stay safe
Robb
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Disappearing filipina
I have rrecently asked a Filipina to leave the bar. I will keep the name of the bar and the girl confidential.
This is my second trip to AC - I met the girl on my first trip about year ago. I am presently in AC. The girl in question has been working in the bar for 7 years -- she is not the best looking girl, but her heart makes up for lack of good looks.
The plan was that I would give her 8000 pesos a month to stay home and care for her mother and daughter. Meanwhile, she would provide me unlimited sexual services at any time--- In addition, we briefly discussed having her come to my country Canada, she is a US citizen because her father was in the US army and is in the process of getting her passport.
On Saturday 28th of June, the girl was supposed to see her Mammasun to collect her final pay and give the Mammasun an excuse to leave the bar. So far the girl has been no show. 3 days and counting. I have not go back to the girl in search of her. I sent a text message to her, but not reply.
The girl has always been consistent to this point, but a no show for several days is a bad sign. I am going to drop her and move on.
Need some advice.
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[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I have rrecently asked a Filipina to leave the bar. I will keep the name of the bar and the girl confidential.
This is my second trip to AC - I met the girl on my first trip about year ago. I am presently in AC. The girl in question has been working in the bar for 7 years -- she is not the best looking girl, but her heart makes up for lack of good looks.
The plan was that I would give her 8000 pesos a month to stay home and care for her mother and daughter. Meanwhile, she would provide me unlimited sexual services at any time--- In addition, we briefly discussed having her come to my country Canada, she is a US citizen because her father was in the US army and is in the process of getting her passport.
On Saturday 28th of June, the girl was supposed to see her Mammasun to collect her final pay and give the Mammasun an excuse to leave the bar. So far the girl has been no show. 3 days and counting. I have not go back to the girl in search of her. I sent a text message to her, but not reply.
The girl has always been consistent to this point, but a no show for several days is a bad sign. I am going to drop her and move on.
Need some advice.[/QUOTE]
Take your own advice. It's over. Move on.
8000 pesos monthly for unlimited sexual services? She might be realizing that is not so good for her.
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[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I have rrecently asked a Filipina to leave the bar. Need some advice.[/QUOTE]
As the long time member of ISG, 'Spam Hog' always proclaimed: "You can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl".
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Not a Pinay I would hazard. Thai??[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=X Man]Did you spend any time with that one?[/QUOTE]
Actually she is a door girl at a bar in AC. Last month I was into bar fining door girls but when I spotted this one, I had to laugh! She was very cool but not my type.
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[QUOTE=Mattrick]As the long time member of ISG, 'Spam Hog' always proclaimed: "You can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl".
There is truth to this truism, but it's too flippant. After a few months working in a bar, the habit of hustling becomes ingrained. Seven years, as mentioned below, is much too long. If you get her within her first few months of bar work, she can be re-trained to respect you.
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Like Telling Bin Laden How To Be A Terrorist
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Having spent 5 years living in Japan and now living in the Philippines, Filipina's living abroad are very much different then those who have never left. If you want a Filipina in Japan, you have to be willing to pay and I am not talking about a BF, I am talking about spending big money and you have to compete with the rich Japanese. If it was the same here as in Japan, why would there be so many Japanese men here? When I was in Japan, I dated Japanese ladies, but IMHO nothing compares to Filipina’s in the Philippines.
Stay safe
Robb[/QUOTE]
Man I know this already perhaps someone should convince the great X who only meets ladies of non-soliciting repute.
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Anyone who regularly reads PI ISG and has more than a 3rd grade reading level knows that I never suggested anything of the sort.
X
[QUOTE=D Etat]Man I know this already perhaps someone should convince the great X who only meets ladies of non-soliciting repute.[/QUOTE]
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The scenery changes but the game remains the same.
D'etat,
I've included your earlier post below since you seem to have forgotten your original assertion. In response to that earlier post I expressed my surprise that a man of color would be so quick and easy with negative stereotypes of an entire race of people. GE then posted an interesting piece, which would have been a good place to move the topic. Instead...look at you!
Debating with you is pretty easy since you so obviously contradict yourself. But please try to restrain yourself from creating fiction that tries to make me look bad. You've done it several times, now.
Since you take any kind of disagreement or debate so personally, maybe you should go back to ignoring me.
X
[QUOTE=D Etat] I have been around Filipinas in Dubai, Japan and in PI. The scenery changes but the game remains the same.
I had one friend in Dubai an admin specialist who was married and would still ask me to buy her stuff. ***SNIP***
One of my ole lady friends in Japan was married and was still milking Japanese guys out of Yen. Another friend of mine in Japan was single had two jobs clocking about $4000 a month and still was bleeding Japanese guys showing me her $3000 Cartier watch. It’s a dirty game..[/QUOTE]
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ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
[QUOTE=X Man]D'etat,
I've included your earlier post below since you seem to have forgotten your original assertion. In response to that earlier post I expressed my surprise that a man of color would be so quick and easy with negative stereotypes of an entire race of people. GE then posted an interesting piece, which would have been a good place to move the topic. Instead...look at you!
Debating with you is pretty easy since you so obviously contradict yourself. But please try to restrain yourself from creating fiction that tries to make me look bad. You've done it several times, now.
Since you take any kind of disagreement or debate so personally, maybe you should go back to ignoring me.
X[/QUOTE]
Yawn, Yawn, Fucking Yawn
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lets get back to the topic
Hi to all,
I guess its not about who has the biggest balls, the coolest lines or the most fancy outfit..its bout opinions and advice for filipinas...So lets get back to the topic guys and share good info ;-)
I havent seen my regular GF in AC for a while, cause I was busy with my other GF (yeah thats stress) now she txt me she is back to work today in Atlantis...So what can I do and say?? I dont want to support her, on the other hand I have to admit that I do care for her a bit...What Im trying to say, you have only 2 choices if you would like to have a GF from the bar...YOu take her out of the bar and support her, if not, she be back, cause thats the only thing she can do, spread her legs, bola2 and f..ckn guys..She wont start working in a factory if guys pay her 3k barfine and given her also 3k as a tip (yeah right, she just go with asian guys cause those id..ts pay that much and think it would be cool and keep the gurls staying and sticking to them/with them...au the contrary they will just f..ck some other guys when they back in their country..get real fellow asian mongers..get real!!!
So, one of the superstars is back in Atlantis, evrytime she is on stage, she get laserd to sit down with the customer....anyway...Im there at the weekend, lets see...as long as I have the cash I can f..ck whoever I want and like :)
Blink
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Robbaf,
I've only dated one Filipina in Japan, and friends with two others. Only one had a background in the mizushobai business -- but even she doesn't seem to be especially fixated on money. I have heard some stories about the p4p Filipinas in Roppongi that seem to be after "big money" as Robbaf suggests.
I did meet a Filipina on the plane from MNL to Tokyo in the past year and we seemed to get on well and exchanged contact info. Unfortunately, she then pestered me to have dinner with her and then go with her to her "hostess" club. I declined.
Of course we then have the question about Filipinas in the Philippines who used to live in Japan. I've met a few of them -- one who was dancing in AC and another at Harry's in Ermita. They were a bit more worldlier than their colleagues, and could chat in Japanese, but not really so different considering their occupations.
DISCLAIMER: I am simply providing ancedotal info here, I am not trying to disagree with Robbaf. Nor is this post in any way meant to entertain the eternally "bored" 50/50 who of course has many interesting posts in the Filipinas sections -- NOT.
X
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Having spent 5 years living in Japan and now living in the Philippines, Filipina's living abroad are very much different then those who have never left. If you want a Filipina in Japan, you have to be willing to pay and I am not talking about a BF, I am talking about spending big money and you have to compete with the rich Japanese. If it was the same here as in Japan, why would there be so many Japanese men here? When I was in Japan, I dated Japanese ladies, but IMHO nothing compares to Filipina’s in the Philippines.
Stay safe
Robb[/QUOTE]
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There is another option
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
I guess its not about who has the biggest balls, the coolest lines or the most fancy outfit..its bout opinions and advice for filipinas...So lets get back to the topic guys and share good info ;-)
I havent seen my regular GF in AC for a while, cause I was busy with my other GF (yeah thats stress) now she txt me she is back to work today in Atlantis...So what can I do and say?? I dont want to support her, on the other hand I have to admit that I do care for her a bit...What Im trying to say, you have only 2 choices if you would like to have a GF from the bar...YOu take her out of the bar and support her, if not, she be back, cause thats the only thing she can do, spread her legs, bola2 and f..ckn guys..She wont start working in a factory if guys pay her 3k barfine and given her also 3k as a tip (yeah right, she just go with asian guys cause those id..ts pay that much and think it would be cool and keep the gurls staying and sticking to them/with them...au the contrary they will just f..ck some other guys when they back in their country..get real fellow asian mongers..get real!!!
So, one of the superstars is back in Atlantis, evrytime she is on stage, she get laserd to sit down with the customer....anyway...Im there at the weekend, lets see...as long as I have the cash I can f..ck whoever I want and like :)
Blink[/QUOTE]
Depending on how serious you guys are (which doesnt sound like you are) girls can be pulled from the BF list. In other words, they LD only, and wont BF. This would have to be worked out with mamasan of course, but it has been done.
But, it sounds like you have a case of puppy love ;) So dont worry about it.
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well....
[QUOTE=Blackangst]Depending on how serious you guys are (which doesnt sound like you are) girls can be pulled from the BF list. In other words, they LD only, and wont BF. This would have to be worked out with mamasan of course, but it has been done.
But, it sounds like you have a case of puppy love ;) So dont worry about it.[/QUOTE]
yes,
Its callled steady barfine or something like that..but who knows if she follow this one and I dont like that the bars are getting more money from me..in fact they got enough allready hahahaha..
To many gurls here to chose from...yes I think Im kinda sex sick...Im bored after 2 or 3 days....need then some time for my own and then Im intersted again or maybe into something new....
Best thing if you work in Manila or Metro Manila are the lunchs breaks...I just sit there and enjoy the view and mostly chose those places to eat where I can flirt with the wettress..if they have male waiters I run :D
Blink
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[QUOTE=Blink157]yes,
Its callled steady barfine or something like that..but who knows if she follow this one and I dont like that the bars are getting more money from me..in fact they got enough allready hahahaha..
To many gurls here to chose from...yes I think Im kinda sex sick...Im bored after 2 or 3 days....need then some time for my own and then Im intersted again or maybe into something new....
Best thing if you work in Manila or Metro Manila are the lunchs breaks...I just sit there and enjoy the view and mostly chose those places to eat where I can flirt with the wettress..if they have male waiters I run :D
Blink[/QUOTE]
Just remember not every guy is there to BF and fuck. There are days I just want to hang out with a pretty girl and chit chat. :) Most people think the idea of laying 2+ LD is crazy and youre getting ripped off...it aint so.
And BTW. As many here I read this board alot and I will preface my statement with two comments. First, obviously I dont know you, whether you work or not (you say you live in the PI), or retired; also, it very well could be your memory is shot to shit. That said, I am starting to think youre full of shit. After reading for a few weeks I notice a pattern: youre in two places at once. You'll make a post in the AC section about some great time you had the night before, then in the Makati or Manila thread you'll post about how you had a great time there. Your dates dont match up. Whether or not you realize it, you do it often.
Now, I couldnt care less. Like I said we dont know each other, and I admit having no beef with you. But I think youre full of shit. *shrug*
Carry on.
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You Guys...
[QUOTE=Blackangst]......And BTW. As many here I read this board alot and I will preface my statement with two comments. First, obviously I dont know you, whether you work or not (you say you live in the PI), or retired; also, it very well could be your memory is shot to shit. That said, I am starting to think youre full of shit. After reading for a few weeks I notice a pattern: youre in two places at once. You'll make a post in the AC section about some great time you had the night before, then in the Makati or Manila thread you'll post about how you had a great time there. Your dates dont match up. Whether or not you realize it, you do it often.
Now, I couldnt care less. Like I said we dont know each other, and I admit having no beef with you. But I think youre full of shit. *shrug*
Carry on.[/QUOTE]
Man you guys crack me up.....:)
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[QUOTE=D Etat]Man you guys crack me up.....:)[/QUOTE]
hahahahah *grin*
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oh well.....
[QUOTE=Blackangst]Just remember not every guy is there to BF and fuck. There are days I just want to hang out with a pretty girl and chit chat. :) Most people think the idea of laying 2+ LD is crazy and youre getting ripped off...it aint so.
And BTW. As many here I read this board alot and I will preface my statement with two comments. First, obviously I dont know you, whether you work or not (you say you live in the PI), or retired; also, it very well could be your memory is shot to shit. That said, I am starting to think youre full of shit. After reading for a few weeks I notice a pattern: youre in two places at once. You'll make a post in the AC section about some great time you had the night before, then in the Makati or Manila thread you'll post about how you had a great time there. Your dates dont match up. Whether or not you realize it, you do it often.
Now, I couldnt care less. Like I said we dont know each other, and I admit having no beef with you. But I think youre full of shit. *shrug*
Carry on.[/QUOTE]
oh well,
you bored today??
Me too :D, thats why I reply to this now..
First of all I dont party and post at the same time, Im not superman. I post when I have the time to do that..mostly during the week.
Yes, I live and work in the Philippines..so I can go to makati or manila whenever I like... I go to AC evry weekend..
Chit chat with gurls? Yes I do that before I ask them if they like to go barfine :D
Needless to say that if your in the Phils and youhave some cash, pussy aint much problem...However when in ac I rather talk to some of my "expatfriends" or "papasanfriends" then chit chat with some uneducated hooker....I go out and dine with gurls I find interesting , I have some regulars, one of them is working tonight again in Atlantis...but she wont go with you :D
if you say im full of shit, then just put me on ignore list or just skip my reports. It seems to me you know it all, so no problem for you to take any advise from me...
Today is friday, Im up to some lunch now and later I go to manila explore La cafe and edsa and Im sure I will have a helluvatime...even Im full of shit...
So, enuff of this pissing contest...back to the topic....filipina opinion and advise...dont get married, fuck around and have fun :)
Blink out
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[QUOTE=Blink157]oh well,
you bored today??
Me too :D, thats why I reply to this now..
First of all I dont party and post at the same time, Im not superman. I post when I have the time to do that..mostly during the week.
Yes, I live and work in the Philippines..so I can go to makati or manila whenever I like... I go to AC evry weekend..
Chit chat with gurls? Yes I do that before I ask them if they like to go barfine :D
Needless to say that if your in the Phils and youhave some cash, pussy aint much problem...However when in ac I rather talk to some of my "expatfriends" or "papasanfriends" then chit chat with some uneducated hooker....I go out and dine with gurls I find interesting , I have some regulars, one of them is working tonight again in Atlantis...but she wont go with you :D
if you say im full of shit, then just put me on ignore list or just skip my reports. It seems to me you know it all, so no problem for you to take any advise from me...
Today is friday, Im up to some lunch now and later I go to manila explore La cafe and edsa and Im sure I will have a helluvatime...even Im full of shit...
So, enuff of this pissing contest...back to the topic....filipina opinion and advise...dont get married, fuck around and have fun :)
Blink out[/QUOTE]
*shrug* doesnt matter to me man. I enjoy alot of your reports. I wouldnt go so far as to ignore you...I mean, why would I? You havent insulted me and I dont get emotional over a message board. I was simply pointing out your dates dont match up, and you are often in AC and Manila on the same day. Thats all.
Peace
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I'm in Manila and AC the same day all the time, its only a 2 hour bus ride.
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[QUOTE=Cbea20][QUOTE=Mattrick]As the long time member of ISG, 'Spam Hog' always proclaimed: "You can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl".
There is truth to this truism, but it's too flippant. After a few months working in a bar, the habit of hustling becomes ingrained. Seven years, as mentioned below, is much too long. If you get her within her first few months of bar work, she can be re-trained to respect you.[/QUOTE]Yes, I maintain such then as I do now. My first experience with bar girls began in 1970 in Vietnam, then in BKK on leave. That quote was from a crusty old first Sgt who had been in Vietnam for so many years he forgot all the guys who got sucked in (as opposed to off) by bar girls.
Yeah you can find a few good ones in the herd, MAYBE if you get one not too experienced YOU MIGHT be able to turn her around, but remember she has had 18 years or so of preconditioning and learning by example so IMHO the odds are against it. Also, recall that for a while I did PI work in the Phils and Thailand doing integrity checks, 100% fool around factor for BGs. And just because she is brand "new' at Fat ass Charlies go go shak in Angeles or wherever doesn''t mean she didn't work some little videoke in her home town, this is likely where and how she was recruited for the big city
Once they see how easy it is to make money, THEY NEVER STOP, remember they are human and that means they are subject ot the same foibles as other humans, greed etc and they are women, born with more intuition than we can muster in a life time.
Good luck
Billy
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Your opinion?
I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit
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decession is yours...
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I can only say one thing to you, or to evrybody in here..Once you started something its very hard to stop. Once you give money , she will expect it , cause she get used to it and yes...its NEVER be enough..
If you can afford it send her, make sure its the last, if not , just see what she do when you back, if she will cheat on you, she gonna do it , wether you going to send her money or not :D....needless to say that so many gurls around here bla bla bla....
Blink
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Blink has already give you some good advice and I agree with the ornery bstrd.
You have a lot of strategies available to you...
hint that you have other women..."My firends invited me to abc island so I will have only a few days to visit you at xyz island".
Just stop sending messages and eventually state that you've been busy at work.
Claim that your busines failed and can she send you 1000 pesos from WU.
Goood luck.
x
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]I've being a long time reader of this board I must say y would you send a girl you are not interested in money my wife is from the filippines thats the only girl I sent money cus I knew I would marry her and I did but to test her then I had her send me money and she she did anyway were happly married for 2 yrs now and so far so good.
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Like The Nile...
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]
Once you start giving some Filipinas money it’s like a turning on a faucet that becomes a mighty river :) Don't send money man some of them act like they need it and they can't do without it. Most of the time it’s a scam. Ask yourself this one question how were they getting "along" before you came into the picture?
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You Decide If, When and How Much
If you really like this girl, and you really want to help her, you can continue to send her money, but you have to establish the rules and stick to them. First, decide if you want to continue to help her. If the answer is in the affirmative, then you decide how much and when. Explain to her then that you will send her x amount on a given day each month, or whatever you decide the period should be and then explain that this is all she will get. Stick rigidly and without exception to the rules that you've established.
This may or may not be a scam. The simple fact is that, at least in my experience, Filipinas in general are awful at managing money. They're impulse buyers; they do not plan, and as long as they have money in their pockets, they will spend it, on "stuff," on their families or whatever. Don't reinforce their poor financial management habits by indulging any requests and stick to your own rules. She will eventually adjust, once she realizes that you're serious and that she ain't getting any additional funds other than what you promised her.
GE
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Never Ending
[QUOTE=D Etat] ...................Ask yourself this one question how were they getting "along" before you came in the picture?[/QUOTE]Good one, I like it.
Whatever you start out with, they will up the ante. Don't forget, all us gringo's have to do is walk out the back yard every morning, look to the skies and the money starts pouring down into our open hands, LOL. You know that, I know that, they know that, LOL.
Start very low and stay there.
On arrival in Phils you can lash out and buy big items for them. Clothes, pay back bill, whatever rocks your boat. Buy the items, do not hand over bundles of cash, there is always cock fighting, casino, cards, blah blah, blah for them to blow your hard earned cash on, LOL. No clue in managing money, most probably cause they never have it, LOL.
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Then Again
[QUOTE=TrickyRick]I have meet a Filipina on cb 2 yrs ago. In those 2 yrs we have emailed each other countless times. I have seen her in person 4 times as friends only and taken her and her child to enchated kingdom. Starting in Jan 08 I have become more serious with her. In the yrs I have chatted I sent her money for christmas in dec 06 4000 peso. She has never asked or bugged me for money. In March 08 I gave her 10, 000 peso for her birthday and then the next month 7, 000 for her child for school supplies. Then again I gave her 9, 0000 peso on jul 08 and told her thats all till oct. 2 weeks after I gave the 9, 000 she says it won't last till oct. Now 9, 000 may not be all that much but she has lived without my help this long why now she wanting more. My guess cause I now her bf and I call her weekly and chat with her on webcam. I think I should not give her anymore till I come to see her in October. What is all your guys opinon?
1) Did not meet her in a bar
2) Didn't bug me for money and now hints a bit[/QUOTE]
Go for what you know. Or as they say in PI "Up to you." No concerns at all its only money. Thats really not important.
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How I met my girl
I guess reading TrickyRick‘s post made me want to tell my story. I support a family in Quezon City. Why? I mean I understand the rules of the Philippines quite well and have spent a lot of time there. Yes, I have had lots of friends there and still make a lot of nice new friends there.
But. A couple years ago I met a girl on P. Burgos and now I support her folks and sisters. Wait? You are already to reply and call me countless unspeakable names.
So I had to camp out for ten hours in the 88, the Internet Café on Burgos. I came out all bleary eyed and tired. It was maybe nine at night. I camped out at Makati Palace. I like standing here because I can see the girls who congregate at Makati Palace and those who hang just south of the 7-11. A good view of the street (and not too close to the lady boys).
Two girls walk over and camp out near me in front of Makati Palace. Along comes a third girl and grabs half of original too and drags her off. So now there is on girl in front of Makati Palace. Guy 1 comes up to talk to her. She shakes her head. Guy 2, same thing, Guy 3, same thing, Guy 4, same thing. She seems to be upset. I don’t mean cornball Filipina over the top with drama upset. I mean scared.
So I ask what’s wrong. She says (drum roll please), "All these guys keep asking me how much for sex. " Okay right now most of you have fallen off your chairs with laughter. I point out, "You are standing in front a well know pick up spot for prostitutes. " She looks me dead in the eye and say, "I did not know. This is my first time to Makati. " So I figure she is a province girl. I ask where she is from. She say, "Quezon City". Okay. For those of you who do not know Metro Manila well. QC (Quezon City) is a long town just a couple miles North of Makati. This basically means she is a poor girl likely from the north of QC (yeah, I guessed this right).
So the conversation fades. Another guy approaches. Another guy. She stressed. So finally I say, "Look if you stand next to me they won’t talk to you. " We chat and I invite her to 7-11 (the one on the north end of the street) for soda. I figure it would be better to get her towards the Korean end of things.
Her story. Her moth is sick. She needs $200 and her friend took her to Burgos to be a prostitute. It’s her first time. Okay, so I DO NOT believe it. But she was really scared. So I ask her to McDonald’s. She comes with me back to down to Jupiter and Makati Ave. And we eat. We talk. I get a bit more of the story. She is young. Her friend was pulled away to be with an guy in a hotel. She panicked and couldn’t go through with it. She was standing there waiting for her friend to finish in the hotel because she did not want to go home alone at night.
She has not asked me for money. She just told me how she got to Burgos and why.
So we talk and she asks to go back to my hotel. We make love. Very sweet. Very loving. In the morning. She wakes up before me, showers and leaves. I have to chase her down the hall to give her 500 Pesos. She asks what it is for. I say cab fare. She is hesitant and takes the money. So I see her ever day. Every day I gave her 500 pesos for cab fare (cab fare is about 150 each way to it is only 200 extra over the cost of a cab). She never once asks for money.
I am about to go back home. I invite her to Makati. I give her the $200. Yes, I believe her story. A big part of me doesn’t trust her. But I don’t think she was acting. She was scared on Burgos and had no reason to think up this elaborate game to get the money.
On my next trip her parents wanted to meet me. They are poor. I mean 7 people in an 8 by 8 foot sleeping area. Dad makes 5000 a month. They give me whisky. They give me soda. The uncles and cousins all stop by (there are like 40 people) and I am "the big news. " They all live on the same block.
So we made a contract. She finishes school and does not get pregnant (hey – it’s not the greatest contract but I wanted to be fair to her). I check her grades, etc. So I pay for things like dentist, etc. (her parents are mid-30’s and have no teeth) because when she graduates. Good teeth means a job. I send her sisters to a private school (yes, I get receipts). Etc. I have a company admin who pays the school directly.
I think she is exclusive to me. I don’t think she works as a hooker. Her story has too many truths in it. Heck, I’ve even helped her with homework, etc. Because she has to do homework when she stays over now.
So I think I kept a girl of Burgos. She claims to love me, wants to marry, me, etc. I told her to graduate and we’d talk. I’m 25 years older than she is. So maybe I can save her and her sisters from being Burgos girls – then again. Maybe I am an idiot.
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Down a little
Ok guys,
So I have been so confused about the filipina that I went all the way back to the first post of this thread and started reading from the beginning. Where I once was full of optimism, I am now down. It is a bummer to read about all the negative things that happened to guys when they married a filipina.
I have only been to Philippines twice now. One thing I know, these chicks make my dick hard. I was married when I was 21, and she was 20. Hawaiian/filipina, raised in Hawaii. I am a white guy, very good looking, and in good shape. It did not work out, but I think mainly because we were both very young and changed over time, but not together. We were only married 3 years. One of the things I regret is not having any children. I wanted to wait until I was out of college and we were better off before having kids. She did not think so, and eventually we grew apart.
Now I am 39, still good looking by many standards, still in shape, bald, and very well off by American standards. I am going to retire in a few years, and will probably not retire in America. I have several properties in Hawaii and was going to settle there, but now am thinking about the PI. I like to surf and play golf, and like the summer weather. Any suggestions about PI?
Can anyone provide me with any positive reasons for marrying a filipina? Seems like many on this site are jaded. Like I said, now I am kinda down. Also, for the first time my honey ko asked me for money last night, and I said I could not get the money to her in time. Her response, "Have you heard of WU there? " Also, her brother just got shot and is in the hospital. Yea. Haven't heard that one before. So, looks like she is finished. Haven't heard from her since I said no to the money (last night).
I just want to find a nice girl to take care of the house and me and provide me with some kids. Is this at all possible? Or am I living in a dream world? Why do all the expats live in PI? Is it just to fuck girls or are some really comfortable?
I am on FH, and finally turned off my profile due to all the crazy emails I get.
Guys, weigh in on the subject, I look forward to reading the responses.
Aloha,
Carmex
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Carmex, you have to remember that people using a web site like this are less likely to be happily married -- more likely happily divorced like myself. And I think it is natural for guys to share the horror stories so that people like you (and me -- I'm still learning) go into a relationship with some smarts. It's like a newspaper -- they sensationalize bad news. Good news..., well, that's not news!
Since you've read way back, you've probably come across posts by GoodEnough and SpamHog -- both are in long term relationships and seem happy. Get your advice from these guys, if possible. I remember a great piece of advice from SH. A 22 year old girl still doesn't know what she will do with her life. Better off to chase the 29 yr old. She's been around the block, knows what she wants, knows her limitations, etc,. (my apologies to SH for my liberal use of paraphrasing).
It seems the odds are much more in your favor if you keep a Filipina spouse in the Philippines.
My own experience is that Men and women are different enough, hooking up with someone of a different culture may be fun in the beginning, but can cause problems down the road. Try to learn more about Phil culture. And when you get into a spat with a significant other, don't assign blame to the cultural/nationality differences. Miscommunications and misunderstandings can
be corrected. Your culture and nationality cannot be changed.
I think you can find a keeper in the Philippines, but follow the good advice you find her at ISG. Bar girls/ cam girls are probably good for fun, but not marriage. There are many exceptions though. Don't be overly generous, especially if you haven't met the person. And whatever you do, don't tell Filipinos that you're "well off" as you have done here at ISG.
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[QUOTE=Carmex]Ok guys,
So I have been so confused about the filipina that I went all the way back to the first post of this thread and started reading from the beginning. Where I once was full of optimism, I am now down. It is a bummer to read about all the negative things that happened to guys when they married a filipina.
I have only been to Philippines twice now. One thing I know, these chicks make my dick hard. I was married when I was 21, and she was 20. Hawaiian/filipina, raised in Hawaii. I am a white guy, very good looking, and in good shape. It did not work out, but I think mainly because we were both very young and changed over time, but not together. We were only married 3 years. One of the things I regret is not having any children. I wanted to wait until I was out of college and we were better off before having kids. She did not think so, and eventually we grew apart.
Now I am 39, still good looking by many standards, still in shape, bald, and very well off by American standards. I am going to retire in a few years, and will probably not retire in America. I have several properties in Hawaii and was going to settle there, but now am thinking about the PI. I like to surf and play golf, and like the summer weather. Any suggestions about PI?
Can anyone provide me with any positive reasons for marrying a filipina? Seems like many on this site are jaded. Like I said, now I am kinda down. Also, for the first time my honey ko asked me for money last night, and I said I could not get the money to her in time. Her response, "Have you heard of WU there? " Also, her brother just got shot and is in the hospital. Yea. Haven't heard that one before. So, looks like she is finished. Haven't heard from her since I said no to the money (last night).
I just want to find a nice girl to take care of the house and me and provide me with some kids. Is this at all possible? Or am I living in a dream world? Why do all the expats live in PI? Is it just to fuck girls or are some really comfortable?
I am on FH, and finally turned off my profile due to all the crazy emails I get.
Guys, weigh in on the subject, I look forward to reading the responses.
Aloha,
Carmex
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How Do You Feel....?
[QUOTE=Flying Saucer]So we talk and she asks to go back to my hotel. We make love. Very sweet. Very loving. In the morning. Because she has to do homework when she stays over now.
So I think I kept a girl of Burgos. She claims to love me, wants to marry, me, etc. I told her to graduate and we’d talk. I’m 25 years older than she is. So maybe I can save her and her sisters from being Burgos girls – then again. Maybe I am an idiot.
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Not trying to sound condescending but dude she met you on a street corner talked to you for a couple of minutes then went back to your hotel room alone and fucked you? This is not typical “good girl” Filipina behavior bruh. Most Filipina I have met would not even spend one day with me alone until they got to know me. Man you sound happy so I don't want to rain on your parade. As long as you are happy that is all that is important.
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A Crap Shoot No Matter What.....
[QUOTE=Carmex]Ok guys,
So I have been so confused about the filipina that I went all the way back to the first post of this thread and started reading from the beginning. Where I once was full of optimism, I am now down. It is a bummer to read about all the negative things that happened to guys when they married a filipina.
I have only been to Philippines twice now. One thing I know, these chicks make my dick hard. I was married when I was 21, and she was 20. Hawaiian/filipina, raised in Hawaii. I am a white guy, very good looking, and in good shape. It did not work out, but I think mainly because we were both very young and changed over time, but not together. We were only married 3 years. One of the things I regret is not having any children. I wanted to wait until I was out of college and we were better off before having kids. She did not think so, and eventually we grew apart.
Now I am 39, still good looking by many standards, still in shape, bald, and very well off by American standards. I am going to retire in a few years, and will probably not retire in America. I have several properties in Hawaii and was going to settle there, but now am thinking about the PI. I like to surf and play golf, and like the summer weather. Any suggestions about PI?
Can anyone provide me with any positive reasons for marrying a filipina? Seems like many on this site are jaded. Like I said, now I am kinda down. Also, for the first time my honey ko asked me for money last night, and I said I could not get the money to her in time. Her response, "Have you heard of WU there? " Also, her brother just got shot and is in the hospital. Yea. Haven't heard that one before. So, looks like she is finished. Haven't heard from her since I said no to the money (last night).
I just want to find a nice girl to take care of the house and me and provide me with some kids. Is this at all possible? Or am I living in a dream world? Why do all the expats live in PI? Is it just to fuck girls or are some really comfortable?
I am on FH, and finally turned off my profile due to all the crazy emails I get.
Guys, weigh in on the subject, I look forward to reading the responses.
Aloha,
Carmex
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Marriage is a crap shoot with Filipinas or any other woman from any where in the world. If those two involved don’t work at it every single day it just isn’t going to work.
I am not marriage material at this point in my life though I have been in a steady relationship for the last two years... I can’t stay away from the Go-Gos.
If you think you are still going to want to hit the clubs and bars from time to time I would say don’t waste your time. Marriage in my opinion is an archaic institution and is not required to father a child and most Filipinas would jump at the chance to have a child by a foreigner especially an American.
If Filipinas are your thing for the long haul search out one with a college education who has other things on her mind other then the latest fashions and cars. When the lust stops the only thing left is her mind.
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Carmex, just like anywhere else there are both good and bad girls in the Philippines. I know a couple of guys that are happily married to Filipinas. I also know quite a few more that have had horrible relationships with them. The difference is the 2 that had success both married educated women with a career (one is a pediatrician, the other a Realtor) while the others all hooked up with bargirls.
So many guys make the mistake of going to the PI and falling for these girls they meet in the bars, online or even in FL places like LA Cafe. And why not? They are sexy, sweet and treat you like gold. They blow the women back home away and make you feel like a King. Well, these women are prostitutes and make their living having sex for money. They do everything in their power to make you feel euphoric because that is their best shot at reeling you in. They know Western men are conditioned to be chivalric and sympathetic towards women and they fully exploit this. Requests for money start along with the sob stories why they need the cash. The Westerner thinks, "It's only a little bit of money to me but it will help her so much" and stupidly starts sending money. Or he thinks sending her money will enable her to quit working in a bar.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. These women might not have went to a university but that doesn't make them ignorant. THIS is how they make their living and it always ends badly for the guy who gets caught up in this cycle. Bargilrs, cam girls & FL's are all prostitutes. Would you pay for sex in your home country and then start sending the girl you just met money? Would you want to make a prostitute in your home country your girlfriend? Probably not but so many guys lose all their common sense after going to th PI and falling for these girls and their charms.
If you are going to retire in the Phils someday you will have the time to find a good educated girl that doesn't work in the sex industry. Someone that can be your partner in life and not a sponge that you will always have to financially support for the rest of your life. I love bargirls for what they are. Instant bliss and gratification. They are not the kind of person I want to make a life partner with no more than I would seek out a crack ho back home.
Plus these girls in the bars and online have so many suitors and guys chasing them all the time. The attention they get is like a drug and they become addicted to it. Do you think a girl thats been having sex with 5 guys a week is suddenly going to become the perfect monogamous Mrs. And stay home to bake cookies and clean the house? Here's a perfect example of how that will work out for you: I met a girl in Subic back in April working in a bar. I kept in contact with her via email just in case I decided to BF her again on my trip this month. If a girl is exceptional in bed I sometimes BF them again on subsequent trips if they are still around. I sent her an email a couple days ago telling her I'll be there next week and might drop by to have some drinks and barfine her. She emails me back saying she has a boyfriend now who is supporting her and no longer works in the bar. I email back telling her good luck and I'm happy for her but sad we'll never meet again. Her response back: "Its ok honey. He not here now I still want meet you. I come your hotel. Tell me where you stay. "
I knew another girl in AC that had 6 different guys sending her money every month. All of them thought she had quit working in the bar but she kept fucking guys for money. Myself included. LOL. She had enough cash from her 6 boyfriends to quit the bar but she told me she simply liked working as a bargirl.
Marriage is still a crapshoot even if you find a good educated girl from a nice family. But your chances for success increase exponentially if you marry someone who wasn't a prostitute. The old saying goes, You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can't take the bar out of the girl. Wise words. And yes I do know there might be exceptions, but do you want to start romancing a bargirl hoping that you might be the exception? The odds are low Bro.
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No Internet Relationships..
I cannot disagree with anything D Etat has said. Marriage is archaic and perhaps never made much sense and any long-term relationship, with a Filipina or with anyone else is pretty much of a crap shoot. However, I would add that you will increase the odds substantially if you forget about the internet sites, come over here, take a few weeks, and try to meet some women who meet whatever your criteria are. The best bet (my opinion only) is to meet some expats with more or less the same socio-economic background as yours, and have their wives/partners introduce you to friends. Filipinas are natural match makers, and you're more likely this way to find a women who is consistent with what you need. At least the search will be less random and better focused and in the process, you'll probably meet a range of fairly interesting and good looking women.
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Dia Success
I met a 18 year old from Mindanao on DIA. After chatting for couple of months
she said she will meet me in Manila if I send her the ticket.
I sent her the the money to buy a ticket $120 U.S. round trip on Cebu Pacific.
My hopes were not there that she will come. Anyway I would have chalked it to bad experience.
Lo and behold she sends me the confirmation of the ticket. I met her at the airport and brought her to my hotel.
She said she is a virgin and she was not lying. We had a great time together with lots of sex day and night. It is as if the dam is opened. she wanted it all the time.
Lovely girl. did not ask me for money. But I bought her a new cell phone and
some clothes . Total damages about $400, not including food. She do not drink so no going to the bars. Pretty much a stay at home type.
As usual she wanted long time relationship. But I had told her right from the begining I am not the marrying kind. Now she is insisting on me to stay with her whenever I am in PHI. Future will tell.
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OK thanks
Yea, I agree, marriage is an old institution. The wanting to get married is probably just my parents talking before having a baby. Don't get me wrong fellas, my last 8 days in Manila, Subic, and AC were a blur of fucking different girls. I picked up three from LA Cafe only 8 hours before my flight back home. All looked great, but only one was really any good at fucking.
My other issue is the marriage material ones I met were not that hot. The ones with real jobs, college education, no kids, good family, etc. But the hot chicks I met at Robinsons, LA Cafe, and Havana Club in Makati, were all p4p type. I think I will head down to Cebu next for a few weeks and hang out like X recommended.
Umm, about the "well off" thing, these chicks can just smell money. I don't know how they do it. Like guys being desperate to get laid in the US. I am originally from Hawaii, so everything is surf shorts, t shirt, and flip flops. Guess I won't stay at the Hyatt Casino anymore. Sure do like it though. Anyway, thanks for the responses and I will check out SH and other posts.
Aloha,
Carmex
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Marriage Material
If your into marriage, then yes, best keep away from Internet, better bet is meet through regular Filipino people.
Better chance of meeting a regular girl, who will become most irregular in bed, in time.
The ready made sex machines are a higher risk marriage wise. Most, if not all Philippine girls are red hot sex machines awaiting to be awoken. Anyway, my experience over many years.
Marriage? You must be daft, lol.
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YES! Pros in the country where I make my home make a helluva lot more money than I do.
Great post Sushi.
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Would you want to make a prostitute in your home country your girlfriend?
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The Other Part
I know, I know, who wants to get married when there is just so much pussy out there. I pretty much planned on still mongering, for at least another 20 years or so. I was under the impression that you had to be married to a filipina, born in Philippines, to own property in PH. And if you can build a pretty nice home for little money, and cost of living is cheap, then why not retire there? Continously fucking 18-20 yo chicks and living good on little money sounds pretty good to me. Now all I got to do is find a place with a surf break and golf course and the plan will start.
I guess the other part is the jealousy factor. My buddy from Thailand says fooling around is more tolerable in Thai, but not in PH. As he put it, "A filipina is going to cut your ass! "
Still just gathering information to be able to make an informed decision. This site is awesome! Wish I could access at work.
Carmex
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Burgos good girl
[QUOTE=Flying Saucer]I think she is exclusive to me. I don’t think she works as a hooker. Her story has too many truths in it. Heck, I’ve even helped her with homework, etc. Because she has to do homework when she stays over now.
So I think I kept a girl of Burgos. She claims to love me, wants to marry, me, etc. I told her to graduate and we’d talk. I’m 25 years older than she is. So maybe I can save her and her sisters from being Burgos girls – then again. Maybe I am an idiot.
[/QUOTE]That is a great story man. I think you are right, she is not a working girl and she sounds like a keeper.
I would like to help you out. Could I get her number so I can go by and "check" on her for you! Just kidding, if someone doesnt bust your balls you will think we are laughing at you.
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FS and carmex
Hi to all,
FS,read your post...some things allready said..and you wont hear much more news from me...the only thing I can tell you is, seeing is believing...thats what I learned..and the other thing is , while you not around its natural she will look for some other guys, pinoy guys are allways around..you not..:D
Finding a wife, dont go to burgos and look for that..go there for fun..even all the gurl wana marry you..same like the wana marry me or anyone else from the western world..If it makes you happy, dont listen to the guys here, I mean what do they know ....some of them livn here like me, but DONT LISTEN TO THEM!!! joke...
IN other words, you have to learn your lesson , hope you wont spend that much money on her..and I hope you realize if you not be around you dont knw whats going on..
Carmex, you far away from getting married..so enjoy the Philippines, If you psycho that all gurls wants your money I can assure you ..YES!! they all do, with that said you know why IM single and NOT getting MArried in the nearest future :D
The only problem Im facing now, is where to meet my mistress...I think its ok to meet them in a nice hotel, keep your place as a refugium and let only those people in, you feel comfortable with :) Maybe that answers some of your questions...as for finding a wife, make contacts with expats and let them introduce you to some Girls, mostly gurls with a job...As Im sitting here in my office and typing this I found myself amount 30 filipinas or so..all with university degree and some from wealthy familys, some not, some hot, some not..but thats the place where you should get started..Like I mentioned in my earlier posts..start with mall gurls , office gurls and then move up to the management :D
Its raining again and I didnt had lunch, Guess I have to go to my favoured place..Burger king..2 hot gurls there, 2 who broke up with their boyfriend :D and all the other male staff from BK are mostly Baklas what a nice wolrd we live in
LG Life is good
Blink
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Draconian Real-estate Laws
[QUOTE=Carmex]I know, I know, who wants to get married when there is just so much pussy out there. I pretty much planned on still mongering, for at least another 20 years or so. I was under the impression that you had to be married to a filipina, born in Philippines, to own property in PH. And if you can build a pretty nice home for little money, and cost of living is cheap, then why not retire there? Continously fucking 18-20 yo chicks and living good on little money sounds pretty good to me. Now all I got to do is find a place with a surf break and golf course and the plan will start.....Carmex[/QUOTE]
PI has some of the most draconian real-estate laws I have ever seen. Even if you are married you still can’t own property besides a condo and you can never get citizenship it’s ironic since most Filipinos try like hell to go another country and get citizenship. How about that? No need to get married to fullfill your dreams...
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Build your own empire?
[QUOTE=D Etat]PI has some of the most draconian real-estate laws I have ever seen. Even if you are married you still can’t own property besides a condo and you can never get citizenship it’s ironic since most Filipinos try like hell to go another country and get citizenship. How about that? No need to get married to fullfill your dreams...[/QUOTE]
Your right D, but this applies to most SE Asian countries (i.e Thailand for one). Guess its a throwback to colonial times (?Thailand?) which has induced a fear of post imperialist empire building (or something).
You can have your name inserted on the title deeds but this is probably just a cosmetic exercise and is of little worth in legal terms. GH
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:d
hi,
told you guys..why you wana married when living here?
Give me a good reason..just one :D
Blink
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Some Guys Like To Play It Straight.....
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi,
told you guys..why you wana married when living here?
Give me a good reason..just one :D
Blink[/QUOTE]
Blink some men don't like to ***** around. Some can’t see themselves sleeping with prostitutes. It’s that simple. I slid down that slippery slope in Tashkent three years ago. As they say the rest is history :)
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[QUOTE=D Etat]PI has some of the most draconian real-estate laws I have ever seen. Even if you are married you still can’t own property besides a condo and you can never get citizenship it’s ironic since most Filipinos try like hell to go another country and get citizenship. How about that? No need to get married to fullfill your dreams...[/QUOTE]
Carmex, I second D'Etat's statement. You might buy that house and live in it with her, but if the marriage goes bad and you separate, you will lose the house with no compensation because it was hers all along. If she happens to die first, you still can't inherit the house, her family can take it away from you. Again with no compensation. You cannot even form a corporation with your wife to own the house, they have that covered too. You may hear about that and other schemes to circumvent this law; all of them are losers in the end if a local wants to make a challenge.
So the deck is stacked against you. If you really trust your filipina, then sure go ahead. But if you cannot afford the possibility of losing the money that you put into the house, then you shouldn't buy it. If you still insist on buying property, buy a condo. Not much of an alternative, but at least it is in your name.
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[QUOTE=D Etat]PI has some of the most draconian real-estate laws I have ever seen. Even if you are married you still can’t own property besides a condo and you can never get citizenship it’s ironic since most Filipinos try like hell to go another country and get citizenship. How about that? No need to get married to fullfill your dreams...[/QUOTE]
Actually, PH citizenship is formally attainable (after 5 or 10 yrs depending on circumstances).
As for owning property I'm sure the seasoned vets in this forum already know that property can be put in a PH corporation, which there are ways to de facto fully "own".
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Girl 2 from last trip
I guess this is more of a warning than advice or opinion.
I need to share my worst experience in the Philippines. So I landed and setup up a lunch date with a DIA girl. Well. She took the photo at an odd angle. Didn’t think much of it until I saw her get out of the cab. Big girl. Really big. So I had been feeling sick (before I saw her).
I’m a nice guy. I took her to lunch. I could tell the staff was looking at us – like man this guy has odd taste. I can feel my fever kick in. I’m sick. She’s a nurse. So she says "Let me go back to your hotel. I’ll take care of you. Get you food, medicine, etc. "
Seemed like a reasonable idea. I get back to the hotel. I get in shorts and tee shirt and get in bed. She’s watching TV lying next to me (no biggie). She had already picked up some meds for me.
So I am half falling asleep. She asks if she can take a photo with her cell. I don’t care. She takes my photo. Then like hugs me and takes a joint photo. Then a kiss and a joint photo. The a web sloppy kiss and a joint photo. I’m just woozy with fever. She must have taken about six photos before I dawned on me – I’m going up on a MySpace page.
I’m lying there. Too sick to do anything.
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What I like about my girl
Yes, I posted a long winded report about my #1 girl in the Philippines. I am not delusion or under a spell. What I like about her is her honesty… case in point.
I ask, “Are there a lot of guys in school who like you?”
She laughs and says, “Too many.”
I have been around a lot of Filipina. The standard answer is “no, guys… I’d never noticed guys at school” or “No, none”. It is always some dodge or non-truth.
What I like about my #1 is she just says reality. Or this one:
I asked, “What do we have in common? I mean I’m 25 years older than you?”
She says, “Sex.”
I ask, “Anything else.”
She says, “No, just sex.”
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Correct Again
Well, for all you guys that like to utter the phrase, " I told you so". Yup, have been home for about 1. 5 weeks now, and the money requests have been flowing like a river. Once I said no the first time, boom, no more emails, video chats, phone txt msg, etc. I called my sweet, innocent, non bar girl honey ko student last night and asked her if we got married how much money would I have to send her family every month? Answer-25, 000 pesos! Wow baby, (I said), big number. Do these people think we are drug king pins that can bribe the local DEA with cash payments every month? Because that is what it seems like to me.
So, ok. You guys were right. Everything I read on this site has come to fruition. Oh, and the girl I fell for down there, that I saw on my second trip, the one I was going to start supporting, (I figured it was like giving to UNICEF every month), yea, does the phrase "no money no honey" ring any bells to you? I feel like I just found out there is no Santa Claus. So, does this new realization take all the fun out of fucking *****s? Or does being better informed make it more fun? Going to CEBU next month so, will report on that later.
Oh, and to say it one more time, "you guys were right".
Carmex
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tired of them too....except..
[QUOTE=D Etat]Blink some men don't like to ***** around. Some can’t see themselves sleeping with prostitutes. It’s that simple. I slid down that slippery slope in Tashkent three years ago. As they say the rest is history :)[/QUOTE]
yes,
tired of them too, thats why I f..ck semi pros, students, working gurls..and if the hooker looks really good, why not I f..ck her too....:D
but still no reason mentioned why getting married to a filipina gurl...
So, I guess I keep on f..cking them and you guys keep on f..ing them in motels, or short time hotels, while you married, hehehehe....so, anybody can give a reason while getting married to a filipina while living here..
Shoot ur posts...
Blink
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Not The Marrying Type....?
[QUOTE=Blink157]yes,
tired of them too, thats why I f..ck semi pros, students, working gurls..and if the hooker looks really good, why not I f..ck her too....:D
but still no reason mentioned why getting married to a filipina gurl...
So, I guess I keep on f..cking them and you guys keep on f..ing them in motels, or short time hotels, while you married, hehehehe....so, anybody can give a reason while getting married to a filipina while living here..
Shoot ur posts...
Blink[/QUOTE]
Blink ok you are not the marrying type. At this point in my life neither am I. But decent Filipinas for the most part make excellent wives if you can but up with the issues surrounding their families and the financial burden they tend to heap upon individuals. Some guys don't fuck around Blink it’s that simple. You are painting with a wide brush. A killer thinks everyone is a killer, a thief thinks everyone else is a thief. You should be able to understand the reason why guys marry Filipinas if you have experienced the "good girls" like you said. Me I love money first and foremost so relationships in this country which more then likely are parasitic in nature are just not my cup of tea…..
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not the marrying type..
Hi,
Met a guy in swagman last weekend, he is married to a filipina and he is thinking about moving over here..Afer his wife left us guys alone, we talked about cialis, viagra and where to get the stuff when in Ac and if he wasnt married he would join me going to LA cafe bla bla bla...So , I still wonder, why getting married in the Philippines??
YOu can have a steady GF and maybe 3 or 4 mistress.Im also not fuc..ing around, just like to be alone when I want to and as of now I didnt meet any gurl I would consider to move together or getting married..Even a "10" is just a body, nothing else and after sex..what you do? what you talk?and even she is educacted...so many other around..so why getting married? :D
Traffic is a bi..ch, gouvernemtn is corrupt, I deal evry day on my work with idiots, but its ok, cause so many black pussycats here..Am I psychic? I think whats the point of getting married and then screw around behind her back?? I rather be totally frank, specially here...until now I dont see any point getting married here..
Blink
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I Smell What You Are Cooking
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,
Met a guy in swagman last weekend, he is married to a filipina and he is thinking about moving over here..Afer his wife left us guys alone, we talked about cialis, viagra and where to get the stuff when in Ac and if he wasnt married he would join me going to LA cafe bla bla bla...So , I still wonder, why getting married in the Philippines??
YOu can have a steady GF and maybe 3 or 4 mistress.Im also not fuc..ing around, just like to be alone when I want to and as of now I didnt meet any gurl I would consider to move together or getting married..Even a "10" is just a body, nothing else and after sex..what you do? what you talk?and even she is educacted...so many other around..so why getting married? :D
Traffic is a bi..ch, gouvernemtn is corrupt, I deal evry day on my work with idiots, but its ok, cause so many black pussycats here..Am I psychic? I think whats the point of getting married and then screw around behind her back?? I rather be totally frank, specially here...until now I dont see any point getting married here..
Blink[/QUOTE]
Blink I hear you talking or I see what you writing (that’s slang for I understand what you are saying and agree with 100) Why get married if you are just going to cheat? Great question. What I am saying though all cats don’t cheat. Some cats like being true and bare backing clean pussy now if those women are fucking around that’s another story. Some guys have a latent desire to be emotional attached and dominated by the opposite sex it’s that simple. Some guys are afraid to go at alone without a female dominating aspects of their life. Sounds like something to be considered for future study?
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good looking , what your cooking.:D
Hi,
yes agree with you D`etat..I guess I m the guy who doesnt want to get dominate by a women and like to do what he likes...on the other side, safer sex is also an aspect for me..Like said before, I screw hookers with condom and non bargurls, working gurls, etc without, after i know them better...my steady GF is a student, for her its bare back also. My steady hooker , now non working GF from AC, bare blowjobs and pussy eating, but condom for intercourse.Im now targeting two females from Burgos :D..one is a billboard dancer, just started...and one is a Bronx dancer (some disco on burgos) just started also...both are slim and tall and I like them both very much..
Maybe one day the right one walks in, but until now...Im still searching and Im on a experimental stage of my life...
Blink :)
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Controlling The Filipinas Quest for Money
Well It took me 25 years to learn this but this is now my golden rule. Every filipina will hit on you for money for every emergency under the sun. So the way to get a good relationship is set the ground rules at the start. I say I will pay you for every time you spend with me. Like last night she came late (10pm) left early (6am) and we couldn't fuck because of her mens. So I gave her 1000 instead of usual 2500. But still it was nice for both of us. If she asks me for money I say come and see me and earn that money first then you can spend it on what you like. If you want a cell phone fine. Earn it first. Then don't get suckered when you go back home and have many requests for money. Make the ground rules straight before you leave. "If you want me back in your arms next time I am here then don't ask me for money". Also if you see a girl just once overnight then you should pay her 3000 but if the same girl comes 3 or 4 times a week then maybe only 2000 each time. Hope this helps. Its sure hard to resist sometimes but once they know the rules then there is no more hassle.
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DIA girl
Earlier report about a DIA gurl whos a nurse and whos big with a pic htat was at an odd angle rang a bell.
I had one but can't remember her name, deleted some time back. But exactly that. Nurse, big etc. She had looked cute in the pic on DIA.
Arranged a meet in Burgos. She whined htat she lived in Manila. But I said take it or leave it. I had plan b. C, and d. And in fact had been to Sogo before I was going to meet her.
She said she was by 7. 11. Saw a ladyboy and a large gal there. Hmm. I phoned and she said thats where she was. Walked near. Got a look. Thought. Fuck, I can't do THAT. And carried on walking.
Pride myself as being a gentleman but hell no. That wasnt for me.
So if ts same one. Poor girl attracts the guys with her pics. But not with her figure. Hahah
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Flowers
Ok guys, been reading the last pages of this forum like a book I can't put down. I think now I am on page 68 or something around year 05. Very interesting to see the transformation all those on the board go through.
So, with talking with my buddy today about these chicks in PH. Basically, I have come to the conclusion that all women are *****s. Now, now, hear me out before I get flamed to extinction. I came to this conclusion very early in life, around 25 or so, and I just now remembered it clearly.
I was 25, just freshly divorced and with a wounded heart. I got married at 20 to my sweetheart, beautiful filipina/hawaiian who could not stand that I was gone so much in the Army. So, I get back to my hometown and it was like someone put out a billboard, "**** is back in town". Because all of a sudden I had girls calling me out of the blue I hadn't heard from in years. So, I pick up the phone and it is a girl Laurana, hot blond with a blond bush. I had to think to remember her, as I guess I f***ked her on a bathroom sink in some guys house at a kegger. (She reminded me). So we make a date and I go to pick her up and my old high school good friend answers the door! Hey! Buddy, how you been, so good to see you, etc. Then he asks what am I doing there, "pick up Laurana" I said. "What are you doing here? " I ask. "Laurana is my wife. " What? Just then Laurana walks down the stairs and says lets go. So in the car, I am like, "WTF? " And she tells me that my buddy was having sex with her 15yo sister (who was smokin hot) and she walked in on them. He was also doing the counter girl at work. But since Laurana's parents owned a chain of health food stores and my buddy managed the biggest one, that was doing very well, they were staying together for a while. Ok, so most guys would have stopped the car and got out of there but I stuck it out. No pussy for two weeks, and then came her birthday. Expensive dinner, expensive gifts from me, and viola, some pussy that night. Turns out, my little 30 minute stand from a kegger in high school was a bisexual dynamo, who would always bring chicks home to share, who loved asians also. Anyway, my thought at the time was, all chicks are *****s.
So think about it. If you have money, house, nice car, etc. You get pussy in the US. Doesn't matter your age, how you look. Old, bald, fat, you still get pussy. So, what is the difference in PI? Women are women are women, and a rose by any other name is still a rose. My doctor buddy in Hawaii had a big problem with this theory. He told me his wife (also a doctor and super hot blond with natural big tits) was not a *****! I told him, "I understand, but do you think she would have married you if you had no job, lived on welfare, sat around the house all day". He told me "of course she would". I still laugh at that.
Today my conclusion is that all women flock to the guy that provides them with a better life. You can't blame filipina's for wanting security and a better life. The hot ones get the best pick, and the others fall into a natural pecking order. They are doing what they have to do, and we are doing what we have to do, which is nail as many as we can before one grabs our heart. This is just life. So, it seems to me, if you get one, then keep her in PI and live down there. Bring her to the states and the pecking order changes. This is just my latest thoughts.
Carmex
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I was feeling lonely (no one read my post)
I was sad. I told a wonderful story. I poured my heart out to you guys. I was booked on Dr. Phil b. See no one replied until now.
Now I met some smoking girls and some normal girls on DIA and some normal girls on CL.
My next fiasco on DIA. Girls shows up at my hotel from Manila. This is great b/c my last 3 DIA girls were "hotel room only dates. " No dinner or a movie. Just hotel room. I was on a roll. 3 hot freebies in a row. Yes I tossed them money for cab fair.- that is another story.
So I go to the lobby. There is my DIA girl, hour cousin (not the girl-on-girl hot 3 some cousin.- the other kind.- the ugly speaks no English cousin) and my date's 3 year old daughter.
So I just say.- well. I had 3 great ones in a row. I guess this is "my turn" to give back. I took them to McDonalds. I bought them dinner and got the kid a toy. I gave them 200 for cab fair (it was 100 each way from where they were in Manila which made sense given where they lived). I just could not bring myself to walk away b/c kids are kids. I figure this one will have a pretty rough life. Like a lof of kids there. So I spent my 45 minutes to an hour of "be nice" time at McDonalds.
Then I rewarded myself by calling my favorite girls for a three-some.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Earlier report about a DIA gurl whos a nurse and whos big with a pic htat was at an odd angle rang a bell.
I had one but can't remember her name, deleted some time back. But exactly that. Nurse, big etc. She had looked cute in the pic on DIA.
Arranged a meet in Burgos. She whined htat she lived in Manila. But I said take it or leave it. I had plan b. C, and d. And in fact had been to Sogo before I was going to meet her.
She said she was by 7. 11. Saw a ladyboy and a large gal there. Hmm. I phoned and she said thats where she was. Walked near. Got a look. Thought. Fuck, I can't do THAT. And carried on walking.
Pride myself as being a gentleman but hell no. That wasnt for me.
So if ts same one. Poor girl attracts the guys with her pics. But not with her figure. Hahah[/QUOTE]
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hmm...
Carmex not all women are *****s,
just the one Im dating hahahaha...your lets say 50% right..I think its like this..young gurls tend to hang out and date young men, thats normal..if they attracted to each other..Means screwing is ok, once they get older and wiser they looking for financial stability and thats where the money thing comes in.
Women, I think , are generelly attracted to successfull guys, guys who know their way and what they doing, so they feel safe. Filipinas also like this, cause they women. Its just that they see us foreigners as a steady income for them and their family...but like I said its not allways like that..When I was a bit younger I got an offer to get married to a filipina from a rich home, her daddy runs a company and he doesnt want a pinoy as his son in law..made sense to me :D..
What makes me smiling all the time is, when I see quite attractive younger guys with "dogs" :D...either in AC or Manila...I dont wana be boastfull, but my GF`s are allways headturners..but thats another story...
Your question, why go to the Philippines? Easily answer is, more f..ck for ur bucks :D and more fun. IM not much attracted to european or even american women...I love asian gurls, most of them filipinas, cause they come in many shapes..
Now a bit from my story....
Happens to me that I feel a bit sorry for my GF mistres from AC, she stop working now in a bar and I told her when Im around at the weekend and you drop by to meet me I will support you. Last weekend I bought her a new cp, not a cheap one..Nokia express music :D, and I gues I gave her 3k or so, not sure..aside from the fact when her friend drop by I invite them to dinner..We didnt had much sex, which disapointed me a bit...
This weekend I gave her 5k, gave her another 5k for buying her a dvd player which we saw in sm clark....
Tuesday, she txt me if she can go back to work in bar, cause they (her relatives) asking more money to her..
I txt her back, if they ask more money from you, they should go and work for it....and I guess I txt her some other things which she doesnt reply to me..
All in all I can say, if you have a GF from AC, once she turn ur back on you she fucks with another guy for money, cause she need it , or her family needs it. SHe knows I dont like her to go work in a bar, I wouldnt mind she make her money with LD only, but I know if she got a good offer from a guy and she got this allways , cause she aint a "dog" she will go for it..cause money talks in AC..
SO , here goes the warning, dont get to much close with those gurls..the more you give the more they ask..
Blink out for a beer :D
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All Women Are Whores...Nope. That Wounded Heart...Know All About It
[QUOTE=Carmex]Ok guys, been reading the last pages of this forum like a book I can't put down. I think now I am on page 68 or something around year 05. Very interesting to see the transformation all those on the board go through.
So, with talking with my buddy today about these chicks in PH. Basically, I have come to the conclusion that all women are *****s. Now, now, hear me out before I get flamed to extinction. I came to this conclusion very early in life, around 25 or so, and I just now remembered it clearly.
I was 25, just freshly divorced and with a wounded heart. I got married at 20 to my sweetheart, beautiful filipina/hawaiian who could not stand that I was gone so much in the Army. So, I get back to my hometown and it was like someone put out a billboard, "**** is back in town". Because all of a sudden I had girls calling me out of the blue I hadn't heard from in years. So, I pick up the phone and it is a girl Laurana, hot blond with a blond bush. I had to think to remember her, as I guess I f***ked her on a bathroom sink in some guys house at a kegger. (She reminded me). So we make a date and I go to pick her up and my old high school good friend answers the door! Hey! Buddy, how you been, so good to see you, etc. Then he asks what am I doing there, "pick up Laurana" I said. "What are you doing here? " I ask. "Laurana is my wife. " What? Just then Laurana walks down the stairs and says lets go. So in the car, I am like, "WTF? " And she tells me that my buddy was having sex with her 15yo sister (who was smokin hot) and she walked in on them. He was also doing the counter girl at work. But since Laurana's parents owned a chain of health food stores and my buddy managed the biggest one, that was doing very well, they were staying together for a while. Ok, so most guys would have stopped the car and got out of there but I stuck it out. No pussy for two weeks, and then came her birthday. Expensive dinner, expensive gifts from me, and viola, some pussy that night. Turns out, my little 30 minute stand from a kegger in high school was a bisexual dynamo, who would always bring chicks home to share, who loved asians also. Anyway, my thought at the time was, all chicks are *****s.
So think about it. If you have money, house, nice car, etc. You get pussy in the US. Doesn't matter your age, how you look. Old, bald, fat, you still get pussy. So, what is the difference in PI? Women are women are women, and a rose by any other name is still a rose. My doctor buddy in Hawaii had a big problem with this theory. He told me his wife (also a doctor and super hot blond with natural big tits) was not a *****! I told him, "I understand, but do you think she would have married you if you had no job, lived on welfare, sat around the house all day". He told me "of course she would". I still laugh at that.
Today my conclusion is that all women flock to the guy that provides them with a better life. You can't blame filipina's for wanting security and a better life. The hot ones get the best pick, and the others fall into a natural pecking order. They are doing what they have to do, and we are doing what we have to do, which is nail as many as we can before one grabs our heart. This is just life. So, it seems to me, if you get one, then keep her in PI and live down there. Bring her to the states and the pecking order changes. This is just my latest thoughts.
Carmex
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Yes most women do like security so do most men. Yes a lot of women will use their pussy to get it. Also a lot of women will use their mind and hard work to get it also.
C I married my military sweet heart Latin American at the age of 21. Now I am in my late 20s and divorced I feel your pain. We just grew up apart. I was flashy with money, diamonds nice clothes, nice cars she shopped at Wal-Mart. She was family orientated... I only thought about the night life; in short things just didn’t work. I know all about that wounded heart.
I am now in another LTR, Japanese bred Filipina. But my eyes are open I am jaded and pessimistic. I don’t believe in love anymore but I believe in what’s practical and what is not. In hip hop circles we say ("I got love for her but I am not in love with her") I stick with my ole lady because I can trust her and she is a good person. Her moral compass is pointing north; those are qualities I find hard to locate in people in general.
The relationship is on my terms. I go where I want when I want to. I made it clear to her no other person could run my life and she would have to deal with it or leave. We do have our “family time” together it is what it is…. On marriage I probably won’t do it ever again. It’s an out of date institution especially for a contemporary man as myself.
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Lonely Flying Saucer
[QUOTE=Flying Saucer]I was sad. I told a wonderful story. I poured my heart out to you guys. I was booked on Dr. Phil b. See no one replied until now.
Now I met some smoking girls and some normal girls on DIA and some normal girls on CL.
My next fiasco on DIA. Girls shows up at my hotel from Manila. This is great b/c my last 3 DIA girls were "hotel room only dates. " No dinner or a movie. Just hotel room. I was on a roll. 3 hot freebies in a row. Yes I tossed them money for cab fair.- that is another story.
So I go to the lobby. There is my DIA girl, hour cousin (not the girl-on-girl hot 3 some cousin.- the other kind.- the ugly speaks no English cousin) and my date's 3 year old daughter.
So I just say.- well. I had 3 great ones in a row. I guess this is "my turn" to give back. I took them to McDonalds. I bought them dinner and got the kid a toy. I gave them 200 for cab fair (it was 100 each way from where they were in Manila which made sense given where they lived). I just could not bring myself to walk away b/c kids are kids. I figure this one will have a pretty rough life. Like a lof of kids there. So I spent my 45 minutes to an hour of "be nice" time at McDonalds.
Then I rewarded myself by calling my favorite girls for a three-some.[/QUOTE]Title of your post : "I was feeling lonely (no one read my post)"
Well I have read it , and I am now feeling lonely. What with your threesomes etc , lol.
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Camfrog
After years of chatting with hundreds of Filipinas on Yahoo,( I could write a long report about some of the real winnners I have chatted with and met in person, and I think I shall soon), and meeting a number of pretty nice girls on my 3 trips to phils, I got bored and just started this week with Camfrog.
Seems to be a whole different type of chat. The few I have talked with only ask for my paypal account :)
Has anyone here met any of the pinays there or are these girls only out fun?
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Finished the Book!
Just like to report that I have now read every post on the "opionions and advice" forum. Whew! Was a long book, but well written and interesting in some parts. I don't feel like I am an expert now by any means, however, I do feel more informed. I have ordered some books from Amazon to complete the quest of understanding the monster known as "pinay". The Tagalog CD and instuction manual will also arrive with the Amazon shipment.
Simple conclusions:
Don't get married if you still monger, unless your gal is OK with this.
Family is everything, you are 2nd or 3rd.
Pinays are great long term partners if you find the right one.
Don't meet the parents unless you are serious.
Don't bring your heart to AC, Manila, Makati, Cebu, etc...
Don't bring her to the US.
Pay the local market rate.
Treat them as you wish to be treated.
Wear condoms, or be ready for the pregnant scam.
Use the head on your shoulders.
Be ever vigilant, in reguards to your health, heart, and wallet.
Be upfront, have fun, and you will get the same.
Some guys get taken, some guys don't. That is life and natural selection.
So, that is it. My conclusions for the day. It will be good to finally get some sleep and back to work on time for my lunch hour. Good thing I could not access this site at work! I would have got nothing done!
much aloha to everyone, love these pinay girls. (even if I don't understand a where they are coming from)
I would like to meet some of the legends on this board next time I visit. Usually about every 2 months or so.
Carmex
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Meeting Board Members
[QUOTE=Carmex]Just like to report that I have now read every post on the "opionions and advice" forum. Whew! Was a long book, but well written and interesting in some parts. I don't feel like I am an expert now by any means, however, I do feel more informed. I have ordered some books from Amazon to complete the quest of understanding the monster known as "pinay". The Tagalog CD and instuction manual will also arrive with the Amazon shipment.
Simple conclusions:
Don't get married if you still monger, unless your gal is OK with this.
Family is everything, you are 2nd or 3rd.
Pinays are great long term partners if you find the right one.
Don't meet the parents unless you are serious.
Don't bring your heart to AC, Manila, Makati, Cebu, etc...
Don't bring her to the US.
Pay the local market rate.
Treat them as you wish to be treated.
Wear condoms, or be ready for the pregnant scam.
Use the head on your shoulders.
Be ever vigilant, in reguards to your health, heart, and wallet.
Be upfront, have fun, and you will get the same.
Some guys get taken, some guys don't. That is life and natural selection.
So, that is it. My conclusions for the day. It will be good to finally get some sleep and back to work on time for my lunch hour. Good thing I could not access this site at work! I would have got nothing done!
much aloha to everyone, love these pinay girls. (even if I don't understand a where they are coming from)
I would like to meet some of the legends on this board next time I visit. Usually about every 2 months or so.
Carmex[/QUOTE]
Great way to sum it up. I am not a legend but I am interested in meeting some other members of the board. I have been a member since Al Qaeda put together their first explosive and have never met another member. Last time I went mongering across Asia with co-workers it was pathetic. Guys talking shit behind other guys back. Whining about this and that. Some not sure they want to pay for pussy saying they should be getting for free simply ludicrous.
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[QUOTE=Asian Western]Well It took me 25 years to learn this but this is now my golden rule. Every filipina will hit on you for money for every emergency under the sun. So the way to get a good relationship is set the ground rules at the start. I say I will pay you for every time you spend with me. Like last night she came late (10pm) left early (6am) and we couldn't fuck because of her mens. So I gave her 1000 instead of usual 2500. But still it was nice for both of us. If she asks me for money I say come and see me and earn that money first then you can spend it on what you like. If you want a cell phone fine. Earn it first. Then don't get suckered when you go back home and have many requests for money. Make the ground rules straight before you leave. "If you want me back in your arms next time I am here then don't ask me for money". Also if you see a girl just once overnight then you should pay her 3000 but if the same girl comes 3 or 4 times a week then maybe only 2000 each time. Hope this helps. Its sure hard to resist sometimes but once they know the rules then there is no more hassle.[/QUOTE]
You payments are far too generous. If these are bar girls who are bar-fined, then you are ruining the market for yourself and others. Bar-fine plus trike money is the standard for overnight.
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Money money money
[QUOTE=Asian Western]Well It took me 25 years to learn this but this is now my golden rule. Every filipina will hit on you for money for every emergency under the sun. So the way to get a good relationship is set the ground rules at the start. I say I will pay you for every time you spend with me. Like last night she came late (10pm) left early (6am) and we couldn't fuck because of her mens. So I gave her 1000 instead of usual 2500. But still it was nice for both of us. If she asks me for money I say come and see me and earn that money first then you can spend it on what you like. If you want a cell phone fine. Earn it first. Then don't get suckered when you go back home and have many requests for money. Make the ground rules straight before you leave. "If you want me back in your arms next time I am here then don't ask me for money". Also if you see a girl just once overnight then you should pay her 3000 but if the same girl comes 3 or 4 times a week then maybe only 2000 each time. Hope this helps. Its sure hard to resist sometimes but once they know the rules then there is no more hassle.[/QUOTE]
Women want security, and money provides the highway to that security. Add to that the Catholic indoctrination about rich (translates to Foreigner) giving to poor and you have the Filipina cocktail.
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Carmex,
Great conclutions...It needs to be pinned in every mongers chest who intends to come to PH or even TH
Every scam will happen so subtly that we would be drawn into it....
Its better to follow the RULES STRICTLY...there is no escape from it..
D etat,
Its always better to monger alone...There will be compromises on the negative when mongering in groups..its never better...but the idea looks cool....
Its better to chat with a fellow monger in coffae shops about the hunt then hunt in pairs..
I want to be my own...when im in the zone...this is what i live for :D
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To monger alone or not
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Carmex,
Its always better to monger alone...There will be compromises on the negative when mongering in groups..its never better...but the idea looks cool....
Its better to chat with a fellow monger in coffae shops about the hunt then hunt in pairs..
I want to be my own...when im in the zone...this is what i live for :D[/QUOTE]
Agreed BL - I too like to hunt alone, especially when after FLs. In fact I'd say that having company along when out on the prowl is an unnecessary distraction in that you end up spending too much time chewing the fat and not enough time concentrating on the main business of the evening. So opportunities can be lost/missed. Another thing is that FL's often go in pairs, so if there are two mongers, a choice has to be made as to who gets who (and I often end up with the dog :D). If you are alone you get the choice of either/both.
The only exception to this is when visiting a new locale for the first time. Then company is preferable and optimally a local who knows the area. This is particularly necessary in a dodgy local mongering area.
Of course some guys get lonely/need the reassurance of having a buddy along so would never dream of mongering alone. I can understand this but think that they will miss out on opportunities that will pass them by if accompanied. Each to his own depending on his comfort zone. GH
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Funny story
Ok guys, so I know this story belongs in S. Korea forum but I had to share.
So I am in the Reggae Bar in Seoul last weekend with two of my buddies. A filipina comes to the table to ask our drink order and then comes back with the beers. Nice club, good music, and the waitress was about 5'4", with B cups and a pretty face. A little chubby, but that made for a nice fat ass. Anyway, she comes back with the beers and asks if we want to buy raffle tickets. So I ask what for? And she says because she lost her house in a mudslide on Leyete and she needs money to rebuild! I asked what caused the mudslide and she said "Typhoon". Hehehehe I asked which Typhoon? What was the name of it? She didn't know. My buddy asked, "What do we get if we win the raffle? " And she said, "huh? " heheheh So, he asked again, "What is the prize if you win the raffle? " And she said, "oh, I don't know". By this time, I am cracking up. I honestly cannot contain my laughter. She looks at us, and says, "Forget it! " Kinda pissed off like. We all laughed about that for a good 10 minutes.
Just goes to show, you can take the girl out of the PI, but you can't take the PI out of the girl.
Thought I might share a funny story with you guys.
Carmex
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[QUOTE=Carmex]
Today my conclusion is that all women flock to the guy that provides them with a better life. You can't blame filipina's for wanting security and a better life. The hot ones get the best pick, and the others fall into a natural pecking order. They are doing what they have to do, and we are doing what we have to do, which is nail as many as we can before one grabs our heart. This is just life. So, it seems to me, if you get one, then keep her in PI and live down there. Bring her to the states and the pecking order changes. This is just my latest thoughts.
Carmex[/QUOTE]
Nice reflections Carm. And I would stress this last point in your use of the word "all". So many times guys on this and every other board I visit complain about a girl wanting to "step up". This is just natural womanhood. EVERY woman wants to find the most secure man they can. Most of the time secure = money. I dont look at it as a bad thing at all. It makes sense. Sure there are the few who go from tumultuous relationships to another, but most of the time they want better.
Dont we also?
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I'm a Pinoy living here in Manila. My suggestions for those who wants to marry a filipina is stay away from the hookers. Thats all. Of course they are you're easy target and because they, re sweet and everything but you must be carefull. These girls have too may boyfriends like previously said, they just want your money to spend with their pinoy bf. Of course there are exeptions. Look for the one which is not a sex worker. Btw its my first post. If you need to ask anything feel free to ask but I'm not an expert in mongering in manila but perhaps I could help. I'm going to Thailand in September. I wish I could get a tip in the BKK forum.
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BKK tip
[QUOTE=Mister Sy]I'm a Pinoy living here in Manila. My suggestions for those who wants to marry a filipina is stay away from the hookers. Thats all. Of course they are you're easy target and because they, re sweet and everything but you must be carefull. These girls have too may boyfriends like previously said, they just want your money to spend with their pinoy bf. Of course there are exeptions. Look for the one which is not a sex worker. Btw its my first post. If you need to ask anything feel free to ask but I'm not an expert in mongering in manila but perhaps I could help. I'm going to Thailand in September. I wish I could get a tip in the BKK forum.[/QUOTE]
hi,
check out Giottos forum in BKK reports, he has his own thread. I stayed in his lodge before and I found it good value for money. He wisely spend his money on things like gud bed/matress, silent aircon, breakfast al the day, gud coffe, excellent western and thai food and he even have his own sports bar with gurls in the hotel, hahahaha, what more you can ask for. Easy access to the red light areas, walking distance...
as for pinays, I prefer the semi pros :D
Blink
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Thanks for the summary. The only one I would disagree with is the one I've quoted. I've never had anything bad come from meeting friends and family of ladies and in fact got to experience some intersting things by doing so.
Of course I'm also honest and up front with the ladies. Now for those who play "snake in the grass" and use the "love" word and make false promises, or pop cherries --- well they probably should avoid meeting the family.
X
[QUOTE=Carmex]
Don't meet the parents unless you are serious.
Carmex[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=X Man]
Of course I'm also honest and up front with the ladies. Now for those who play "snake in the grass" and use the "love" word and make false promises, or pop cherries --- well they probably should avoid meeting the family.
X[/QUOTE]
True XM - that last comment would cover many a monger ;)
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Meeting The Family When You Are Only Looking For A Constructive Way To Release Sperm
[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the summary. The only one I would disagree with is the one I've quoted. I've never had anything bad come from meeting friends and family of ladies and in fact got to experience some intersting things by doing so.
Of course I'm also honest and up front with the ladies. Now for those who play "snake in the grass" and use the "love" word and make false promises, or pop cherries --- well they probably should avoid meeting the family.
X[/QUOTE]
I wonder what that must be like? “Hi I am the American foreigner who is orally, anally and vaginally fucking your daughter or sister. Once she starts to bore me or I get tired of her or if she asks for a "loan" I am off for greener pasteurs oh and past me another San Miguel why don’t you.”
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Are you trying to be funny or what?
Did Daddy Warbucks go to the high school prom. Did he meet papa and ask if he could butt fuck his date in the back seat? I don't think so.
x ( who does not butt fuck with anyone, so have no idea where *****bucks is coming from)
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]I wonder what that must be like? “Hi I am the American foreigner who is orally, anally and vaginally fucking your daughter or sister. Once she starts to bore me or I get tired of her or if she asks for a "loan" I am off for greener pasteurs oh and past me another San Miguel why don’t you.”[/QUOTE]
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A Different World....
[QUOTE=X Man]Are you trying to be funny or what?
Did Daddy Warbucks go to the high school prom. Did he meet papa and ask if he could butt fuck his date in the back seat? I don't think so.
x ( who does not butt fuck with anyone, so have no idea where *****bucks is coming from)[/QUOTE]
I don’t know what Philippines some of you guys go to. But the one I live in most of the women are unsophisticated by western standards. Most of the country is in dire poverty so when a local woman meets a foreigner the lady and her family most of the time is wishing this guy be the one that rescues them from poverty.
In the states a prom date is nothing like this. The “Prom” I am surprised you can remember back that far Grandpa. You do tend to keep the company of young unintelligent girls though so it adds up :) Also in the west women tend to be economically stable and have a first world education so you telling them what the "deal" is more understood.
Also there is no “face” or respect issues so when the foreigner fucks her sides ways then rides off into the sunset she don’t have to hear “I told you so from her family members.” I heard from many of pinay stories about the philandering foreigner and how families have been fucked up by it.
Daddy “*****” bucks? I like it! Oh how I wish my substantial paycheck came from “*****s” instead of Bush's wars…..Might be more job security with the pending administration change :)
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DW + X Be Cool
No harm in any posts. I get the point. I mean I have a girlfriend in QC. I have no right dating her. Let's just leave it at that.
She wants me to meet her dad/mom. I'm like. If I were your dad. I'd get together with 10 guys and beat me up (okay get it.- I think dad should be smacking me instead of.). Offering me a soda when I know he makes 5000 pesos a month. Offering me a shot of whisky. Calling me sir.
Change topic: I mean I have been stunned at the times when I have slept with an aunt and her niece, best friends, cousins, 3 coworkers from the day shift at 7-11 (thank heaven for 7-11).
By American standards I'm surprised noone has taken me out and told me off. It is like a strange dream.
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As far as I know, I'm not a grandpa. And that is the problem with your posts, you are making some assumptions about me and my motives which are not true and I find that offensive.
I met one ladies family only because she needed to go home to pick up a swimsuit for our trip to the beach. Nice people. A neighbor climbed a tree so that I could have fresh coconut. And then off to the beach we went. It was a good experience, there were no negative feelings, no deceit, nothing abnormal.
I'll assume you've had some negative experience with meeting family, so go ahead and give us the details.
X
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]
I am surprised you can remember back that far Grandpa. You do tend to keep the company of young unintelligent girls though so it adds up :) )[/QUOTE]
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Question Revisited
[QUOTE=Blink157]hi,
told you guys..why you wana married when living here?
Give me a good reason..just one :D
Blink[/QUOTE]
What’s good Blink my man we living the good life eh? I am currently away on business but when I get home (8 weeks) bar girls grab your umbrella because it’s going to be raining fucking pesos.
Anyway I recently asked your question but more in depth in the Dubai thread when “members” was worried about another member getting busted by his wife I just asked why the hell they marry in the first place. I got one sarcastic response. One straight but short response from Master Monger Piper 1 and that was it. It seems guys can’t or won’t answer the question well life is good.
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U2
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]What’s good Blink my man we living the good life eh? I am currently on away on business but when I get home (8 weeks) bar girls grab your fucking umbrella because it’s going to be raining fucking pesos.
Anyway I recently asked your question but more in depth in the Dubai thread when “members” was worried about another member getting busted by his wife I just asked why the hell they marry in the first place. I got one sarcastic response. One straight but short response from Master Monger Piper 1 and that was it. It seems guys can’t or won’t answer the question well life is good.[/QUOTE]
" I still havent found what Im looking for.." maybe that explains all...and until Im gona found that special gurl...I keep on f..in around...
8am now and if I look behind me whats in my bed....oh guys...ehehehe...
Life is gud
Blink
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[QUOTE=X Man]Of course I'm also honest and up front with the ladies. Now for those who play "snake in the grass" and use the "love" word and make false promises, or pop cherries --- well they probably should avoid meeting the family.X[/QUOTE]
I was in Manila last weekend and this happened to me. Two months ago I met a cute waitress in the "Cafe", 22 yrs old and no kids, and over 5 or 6 visits she asked me why I don't take anyone out. She didn't realize that I do sometimes take someone out, but I always have them meet me at another place (7-11) to ensure no crooked cops are waiting for a shake down. So, she wanted to meet me outside the "Cafe". Finally, last Sunday I had time and I met her in Robinson's. We were having coffee and I asked her if she wanted to eat first, or go to the hotel. She acted like "What" and I said okay what do you want to do. She told me that if we go to the hotel, we are dating and it is only me and her. I laughed and told her that I don’t live in Manila and I travel there sometimes and I am not looking for a gf, but if she wanted to go to the hotel and have a couple hours of fun, and we would be friends, then I was her man. It took her 5 minutes to think and then she replied okay. Down side to this, after the Sogo she had to go to work and I met her in the “Café” and just my luck I met two really sweet diamonds and I couldn’t pry her off me to get them out:(
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Heading Back
So I haven't written in a while and have been away from the board. Had to go back to the USA to visit my father who had a heart attack. He is fine, but made me realize how short life is and can end at any moment.
Heading to Cebu in two days and will be there for nine days. Just being back in Hawaii and Mainland made me realize a few things. First of all, most American chicks are fat and bitchy. Took some nice ones home from some bars on the mainland (not pros or p4p, just civilian), but they could not even fuck that well. And one had a big pussy! Had to pretend she was pinay just to finish. Now back in Hawaii and fucking my old gf. Ask me what I am doing now? Writing on the board because she has a headache.
So, the pinay are tight little fuck machines, with good bodies who love to please. Yea, we put up with some bullshit, but overall, they treat us good. Nothing wrong with that IMHO.
The internet dating thing is such a scam. I think the FH girls are either prostitues, bar girls, or boys pretending to be girls. Was supposed to meet some "nice" girls this trip, but eventually all turned out to be p4p girls. Figured it out over time. So, the trip is like this: fly into Manila and meet a former Ms. Philippines (15 years and 15 lbs ago). Met her before and we should fuck this time. Then to Cebu for some internet FH p4p types. Then down to CDO for the one college girl. I am sure I will nail many and will take a camera down there this time.
I would go down to Waikiki and do some mongering tonite while my girl is asleep, but I fucked her three times yesterday and once this morning and I am tired. Maybe I will just watch TV.
Looking forward to the PI
Carmex
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Hansum Man
[QUOTE=Robbaf] Down side to this, after the Sogo she had to go to work and I met her in the “Café” and just my luck I met two really sweet diamonds and I couldn’t pry her off me to get them out:([/QUOTE]
You lucky HANSUM MAN
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I Hate You Guys
I've been a member of this board since before the 'split'. And now frequent both boards. I just finished reading the posts on USASexGuide. And I came here to lurk in your little world. I must say, I really hate you guys
While you guys are picking up 20 somethings, we are scampering around for a good AMP providers that's 40+ that won't charge us over $50 for a HJ. Whereas when I was in the Phils, $50 would get me an overnight with a princess.
I long for the time when I can go back and spend some quality time there.
FH.com is a hit and miss. Here's my take on it:
95% are going to ask you for money for their sick [insert relative] or to take their 'exam' at school.
4% are really looking for someone, but they're ugly.
1% are looking for someone AND pretty.
Any other site you guys can recommend?
Enjoy yourselves... I envy you... until I get a couple of business up and running in the Phils ;)
Dave
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[QUOTE=TSMDave]I've been a member of this board since before the 'split'. And now frequent both boards. I just finished reading the posts on USASexGuide. And I came here to lurk in your little world. I must say, I really hate you guys
While you guys are picking up 20 somethings, we are scampering around for a good AMP providers that's 40+ that won't charge us over $50 for a HJ. Whereas when I was in the Phils, $50 would get me an overnight with a princess.
I long for the time when I can go back and spend some quality time there.
FH.com is a hit and miss. Here's my take on it:
95% are going to ask you for money for their sick [insert relative] or to take their 'exam' at school.
4% are really looking for someone, but they're ugly.
1% are looking for someone AND pretty.
Any other site you guys can recommend?
Enjoy yourselves... I envy you... until I get a couple of business up and running in the Phils ;)
Dave[/QUOTE]
Dave
Am not based there but ,much closera dn have plenty nice 20 something here in UAE :) But I do return there and get some of same.....;)
Try DIA (Date in Asia) and Cherry Blossoms - there is plenty written on these on the board, but you will find that many will ask the same questions.
Have fun and continue staying in the USA so it leaves more lovely 20 somethings for me and other guys :)
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Cost of Living in Manila
Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this post...
A few months ago I met a Filipina in Shanghai. We have an awesome relationship together. I am very impressed with her.
I have asked her to retire from the 'entertainment' industry and never be a WG again. We have had a very difficult heart to heart talk about this, it was really an ultimatum - if you ever go to Shanghai - I will never see/speak/think about you again. It had to be black and white - no gray.
I think in general PI girls would rather not work at home and I believe her when she tells me that she would not consider to 'work' at home.
In return I will take care of ALL your expenses and give her a chance to make a better future for herself and potentially for the two of us, if we are lucky together.
She is working to take care of her son and 3 nieces. To give them an education so that they will never have to work this way. I respect her for doing this and I love her. She has a home in Manila, where basically the whole family lives, perhaps 14 people in 90m2.
She has listed her expenses as:
Water ~2500pesos/month (every day 170pesos)
Mineral? every 3 days 60 total 600pesos a month (is this gas)
School fees/allowance: 3000pesos per week (all 4 students?)
Electricity: 2000pesos/month
Landline Telephone/DSL Internet: 2000pesos/month
Food (whole house) between 6000 and 8000 per month
My question to the forum is are these reasonable expenses? I will have no problem to cover her costs, she is wonderful but I want to be sure that these are reasonable. They SEEM reasonable and fair to me.
Do you think that it is possible for her to really retire from this work? Or is the adage "you can take the girl from the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl" necessarily true? If we are together, we plan to stay in the PI so the same adage (substitute PI for Bar) is not applicable at this time.
Thanks for you help. You can write me a PM or reply to the forum.
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YF2 - Think you have already placed this post on the 'Living in the Philippines' thread and have a few replies.
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Cost of Living in Manila
You say that you are ready to pay for the expenses below. They seem reasonable to me. However, don't be naive to think it will be the only expenses.
You can't being to imagine how many other things that will "come up". Cousin's tuition, business loan for a "can't miss opportunity" for an uncle, father's emergency hospital bills, etc. Remember, Filipinos have families all over. Or simply, they may just think you're rich to ask you money for a new cell phone.
I've been here for two years now. Every day, even from people I just met, will ask me for money. (Especially in high school and college, I grew up really poor) and I still had a hard time asking people for money. Maybe it's my pride, but to this day, I still think it's one of the hardest things to do. I get text messages from people I don't even know asking if they can borrow money for a medical emergency. Sometimes, I feel like a walking ATM machine.
Maybe I'm wrong. I guess it depends on if you really love her and want to give it a try. It seems like you are just about ready to make the decision to support her.
Good luck
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Your Like George Washington...You Cannot Tell A Lie
[QUOTE=Proudpinoy]You say that you are ready to pay for the expenses below. They seem reasonable to me. However, don't be naive to think it will be the only expenses.
You can't being to imagine how many other things that will "come up". Cousin's tuition, business loan for a "can't miss opportunity" for an uncle, father's emergency hospital bills, etc. Remember, Filipinos have families all over. Or simply, they may just think you're rich to ask you money for a new cell phone.
I've been here for two years now. Every day, even from people I just met, will ask me for money. (Especially in high school and college, I grew up really poor) and I still had a hard time asking people for money. Maybe it's my pride, but to this day, I still think it's one of the hardest things to do. I get text messages from people I don't even know asking if they can borrow money for a medical emergency. Sometimes, I feel like a walking ATM machine.
Maybe I'm wrong. I guess it depends on if you really love her and want to give it a try. It seems like you are just about ready to make the decision to support her.
Good luck[/QUOTE]
Damn bruh your post hit home with me. I have experienced that everywhere I have been around Filipinos the same what you describe but hell also have seen the same from my family back in the states that’s why I don’t call home much :) I had not been to the states in two years before I took the plunge back in April for those same reasons. The Filipinos I come in contact with well it’s easy to say no them but now the biological family that’s hard. They seem to not understand yeah I do have money but not for them. As for the asking for money…I think it’s a shameful act especially if you are asking for bullshit reasons, cell phone/jewelry you smell what I am cooking?
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Asking for money - something in the breeding?
It seems to me that these cute little Filipinas are raised and trained to use their looks and charm to get as much money as they can from us unsuspecting foreigners. I live and work in Korea, where many Filipinos come to work in the factories or bars. Some of the areas around the US military bases seem more Filipino than Korean these days. So I have had quite a few encounters with them. I have even traveled to the Phils to meet a few that I have met through the chat sites. Without exception, the idea of me giving them some money for various "needs" has come up. Just like YF2, I bought into the idea of "supporting" one that I thought I was in love with at the time. However, what started out as needing no more than $500/month, quickly turned into $1000/month is not enough. I'll admit, I was pretty damn stupid to continue at that point. But I blame it on my smaller head. Anyhow, I eventually did come to my senses and decided to cut her off before I had to hawk everything I owned and take up a park bench as my residence. I'm not saying that all Filipinas want us foreigners only for our money. But it sure seems that the large majority are experts at sucking everything out of our wallets and bank accounts.
IMHO
HW
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expenses for Manila
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this post...
A few months ago I met a Filipina in Shanghai. We have an awesome relationship together. I am very impressed with her.
I have asked her to retire from the 'entertainment' industry and never be a WG again. We have had a very difficult heart to heart talk about this, it was really an ultimatum - if you ever go to Shanghai - I will never see/speak/think about you again. It had to be black and white - no gray.
I think in general PI girls would rather not work at home and I believe her when she tells me that she would not consider to 'work' at home.
In return I will take care of ALL your expenses and give her a chance to make a better future for herself and potentially for the two of us, if we are lucky together.
She is working to take care of her son and 3 nieces. To give them an education so that they will never have to work this way. I respect her for doing this and I love her. She has a home in Manila, where basically the whole family lives, perhaps 14 people in 90m2.
She has listed her expenses as:
Water ~2500pesos/month (every day 170pesos)
Mineral? every 3 days 60 total 600pesos a month (is this gas)
School fees/allowance: 3000pesos per week (all 4 students?)
Electricity: 2000pesos/month
Landline Telephone/DSL Internet: 2000pesos/month
Food (whole house) between 6000 and 8000 per month
My question to the forum is are these reasonable expenses? I will have no problem to cover her costs, she is wonderful but I want to be sure that these are reasonable. They SEEM reasonable and fair to me.
Do you think that it is possible for her to really retire from this work? Or is the adage "you can take the girl from the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl" necessarily true? If we are together, we plan to stay in the PI so the same adage (substitute PI for Bar) is not applicable at this time.
Thanks for you help. You can write me a PM or reply to the forum.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a lot to me.
A graduate from university gets around 10kPeso a month, a managing director 50k.
.... so many of those have kids and send them for education.
Maybe she is a nice girl, but not only maybe she tries to milk you for your money.
.... sorry to tell you.
Happened to me before as well, but I got cured.
Rgds,
Mike
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I have to agree with Michi,
She has given you a salesperson estimate. Did YOU ask her for the breakdown on costs, or is that something she did on her own? What she makes in Singapore is a King's ransom by Phil. standards, there is not reason you have to equal that.
If you're still willing to move ahead, make up some bullshit about your budget and offer her something less. Maybe it's too late for that.
I can offer a sample of one, so it is meaningless.... Met a MNL bargirl. WOW, super GFE experience. I had to leave in three days and she stayed for three days. No barfine! I have to tell you, I'd swallowed the hook, line and sinker. Six months later we meet when she is back in her hometown, a large city in Visayans, she has a fiance. She complains about how little he sends her. We fuck. I discreetly give her 2000 pesos (one hour commute costs included), no complaints. She never asked for a penny the whole time I've known her -- bless her heart.
Six months after that, I'm in Visayans and send her a courtesy call. She's in Manila, "with an Indian friend", but has a flight back home the next day. We fuck. We go to abc disco to drink, dance and supposedly to meet her friend and her Korean "customer". Friend turns up with three Filipino "cousins" (two girls and a bakla), but no Korean friends. Ooops, now the entire party is on my wallet. Surprise! Friend is obviously a *****e, and gives me bad vibes immediately. I whisper to my date that I'll buy the first round, no more.
Ex, go, go girl Damn she could dance. Later at my hotel, we fk. I'm a small tit man, but her's are large and pendoulous and just so sweet to hold. I'm smitten, once again. Next morning, she declines an invitation to visit an island resort. Says her mother would be angry. I can't help but think it's my lack of generosity. She doesn't seem like the same girl I met a year earlier. Well, I gues she isn't ....she's someone's fiance.
Last I heard, she's unhappily married in a 1st world country.
I hope there is a happy ending to this story. But, I doubt it.
The original poster has a great story and I hope it works out for him. She sounds like someone you could take a chance on.
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sidenotes:
Good sex for money support is very appealing to a man. My ex got the money part right, but was pretty stingy with her holes. She wasn't bg, btw.
But a bar girl is trading away a life of big money, multiple sex partners, freedom, fun, high falutin hotels and resorts, etc.
[QUOTE=Michi]Sounds like a lot to me.
A graduate from university gets around 10kPeso a month, a managing director 50k.
.... so many of those have kids and send them for education.
Maybe she is a nice girl, but not only maybe she tries to milk you for your money.
.... sorry to tell you.
Happened to me before as well, but I got cured.
Rgds,
Mike[/QUOTE]
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Can you take a girl out of the bar?
Hi all,
Sorry haven't been reading the board for a while. The question of will a girl leave the bar if if she is offered support? This is a question I have always wondered about, and from what I have seen and heard about it is a hit and miss as to will she or won't she.
Too many stories out there, some girls will go back to the province and get fat on the money they get. Others with go back to high school or even study at college. Then there are the ones that stay in the bars and lie to their boyfriends about what they are really doing.
In the last three months I have started chating online to a bargirl, since we started chatting she has told me she was single and she has stopped working in the bar and is looking for a real job. Thanks to my friend who introduced us in the first place and also happens to be jealous of the fact that I am chatting to this girl. I have now found out that this girl did have a boyfriend and was still working in the bar. Last time I spoke to this girl she was going back to her province for a while. Turns out her boyfriend was coming back to town and did not know she was still working.
I myself had a Thai bargirl as a girlfriend, lasted about 5 months I think. In that time she stopped working without me telling her to, started taking english classes and a basic computer course. I did send her small amounts of money in that time. But she dumped me after I refused to give her $10,000 to open a shop.
I still talk to her and she says she has her shop but lets her sister run it while she is part timing in the bar( still says she hates working in the bar, but the way I see it she had her chance to leave but she has choosen to stay).
One thing I don't get is now she still believes we are together, we just had a fight. I don't see it that way but I haven't actually told her we are not together. Best thing is she no longer asks or receives any money from me.
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They Are For Play...
Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?[/QUOTE]
Nope, the great, make that GREAT thing about the PI is average 40 year old white guys can score with hot college girls. I don't see the point of dating a hooker in the PI, but they do a good job of filling in on those few nights when you don't have a normal girl.
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The first question is rather complicated. As for the second question, "Hell yes I would."
I'm just hopn for some friction on my piston
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?[/QUOTE]Can you really ever have a real relationship with a BG, who is still working in the bar? I have 5 or 6 BG's who consider me their BF. What that means to me and their friends is, if I come into their bar I belong to them. I have meet some FL/BG's who were hookers, but I have also met more ladies in bars that really are only trying to support someone...i.e. kids, parents, or find a husband.
Would I date a hooker in my own country? Maybe, if she is a LBFM and I didn't have to pay anymore:D
Robb
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Would you date a hooker in your own country
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Guys why do you go to Asia to date and have relationships with hookers? Would you date a hooker in your own country?[/QUOTE]
I dated a "High Class" call girl for a couple of years. I didnt care, I got it for free and helped spend the proceeds. Besides what has sex got to do with love anyway?
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Same as AOB
I agree with AOB. About 15 yrs ago I dated a stipper from Deja Vu strip club. Beautiful girl, did not meet her in the club, and we dated for 1 1/2 yrs. I was a bit nieve back then, but figured out you could get a BJ in those clubs for $50 USD. You could also have sex in the VIP room. Bothered me for a while, but she was so hot in bed, bi-sexual, and had loads of money all the time. I loved being with her, and she always brought home other girls for us to play with.
The end came when I made the big decision for her to move with me. Her response was, "I wonder if they have any clubs in ______? " Well, that sealed it for me. "Are you always going to be a *****? " I broke it off with her after that.
Saw her about 5 yrs ago when back in USA. She had quit the business and went to Med school. Still hot, but plus about 15 lbs. She lived with a girl, but not sure of the relationship. She gave me a BJ on the back porch of my grandparents house while her friend waited in the car.
Not sure of the point here, I guess it is sometimes they do change? You decide for yourself.
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One thing I love about bargirls is talking dirty to them, they love to talk dirty too. I guess that is their way of baiting the hook and then reeling you in. I talk dirty to a College girl in Manila online, but she is always telling me to SHUT UP, and why do you always talk like that. College girl is nice but bargirls are more fun.
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You guys are crazy!!-
With all do respect gents, any guy whose sending a girl money when he's over here and she over there. Should go back and read some of the sage advice about filipina's either that or have his d*ck cut off, because apparently you are thinking with the wrong head. If I hear another guy says "oh I sent her money small amount," I'm going to scream. Whatever, the small amount to you is, please send it to me, I will make better use of it than you will. You my dear friend, is where they got the term a " sucker is born every minute" and you are giving the rest of us a hard time with filipina, because they think they can scam us because some stupid guy sent them money before.
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Delusions of Fidelity
I've never really understood these guys who send money to girls, and are seemingly convinced that the girls are at home pining away in loneliness for the return of their true loves. Are they on some sort of medication that renders them delusional? Are they mentally ill? What drug or state of mind is it that allows presumably otherwise normal people to fixate on women they may have known for a few days in person at best, or at worst have met only through the Internet? Fixate to the point that they lose the ability of rational thought.
If I were a more compassionate sort, I guess I'd feel some twinge of guilt at boinking their "fiancees." As it is, I just shake my head and wonder how "mature" men can be so ridiculously naive.
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Trust No One. People Are Full Of Shit In General....
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I've never really understood these guys who send money to girls, and are seemingly convinced that the girls are at home pining away in loneliness for the return of their true loves. Are they on some sort of medication that renders them delusional? Are they mentally ill? What drug or state of mind is it that allows presumably otherwise normal people to fixate on women they may have known for a few days in person at best, or at worst have met only through the Internet? Fixate to the point that they lose the ability of rational thought.
If I were a more compassionate sort, I guess I'd feel some twinge of guilt at boinking their "fiancees." As it is, I just shake my head and wonder how "mature" men can be so ridiculously naive.[/QUOTE]
Ok. What about the western businessman who leaves his wife at home in the west while traveling all over the world? I agree with the not trusting the lady you just met. But I also agree you shouldn't trust a soul not even your damn mother 100 percent. Every situation is different.
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Yup, on my last trip, I had a girl do a runner on me. :( Bummer, I thought.
She left at about 1am. :(
Then at about 2.30am, she comes back :) and spends the rest of the night and the morning with me after explaining that she had to 'check in' with this guy who was paying her not to work in the bar.
Must have been someone stateside on his lunch break.
LOLOLOLOL!!!
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My mom is the most pliable women i ever met, and my lame ass, currently celibate, scared to fly airplanes, never-married brother is milking it for all he can get. Doing well - i might add.
D'etat, you never fail to amaze me with your unique, and brutely honest description of your/our reality.
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Ok. What about the western businessman who leaves his wife at home in the west while traveling all over the world? I agree with the not trusting the lady you just met. But I also agree you shouldn't trust a soul not even your damn mother 100 percent. Every situation is different.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Ok. What about the western businessman who leaves his wife at home in the west while traveling all over the world? I agree with the not trusting the lady you just met. But I also agree you shouldn't trust a soul not even your damn mother 100 percent. Every situation is different.[/QUOTE]
Agreed but i would trust a PI gurl as far as I can throw her. Only way you can remotely come and trust a PI girl there is if you shacking up with her and living there. She knows where her bread and butter is coming from. "Most of the time"
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[QUOTE=Pimpster]With all do respect gents, any guy whose sending a girl money when he's over here and she over there. Should go back and read some of the sage advice about filipina's either that or have his d*ck cut off, because apparently you are thinking with the wrong head. If I hear another guy says "oh I sent her money small amount," I'm going to scream. Whatever, the small amount to you is, please send it to me, I will make better use of it than you will. You my dear friend, is where they got the term a " sucker is born every minute" and you are giving the rest of us a hard time with filipina, because they think they can scam us because some stupid guy sent them money before.[/QUOTE]Hey Pimpster, Please do tell us how many trips you have had to the PI and some of your war stories. I read all of your post and you really haven't added a thing to this board, but your opinion. That is okay to me, but also tell us your stories while visiting, if you have been here or how you got burnt sending money to a girl.
Thanks
Robb
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[QUOTE=Robbaf]Hey Pimpster, Please do tell us how many trips you have had to the PI and some of your war stories. I read all of your post and you really haven't added a thing to this board, but your opinion. That is okay to me, but also tell us your stories while visiting, if you have been here or how you got burnt sending money to a girl.
Thanks
Robb[/QUOTE]
My wars? I've been a seasoned members, and really feel no need to share my so call bedroom adventures, its a question of kiss there are plenty on the boards who would be more than happy to share those adventures. Nor do I need to pump up my ego like others do if. I don't have a problem with it, if you someone believes that he took some bar girls to new heights in the bedroom, or how the girl he banged was so hot even if I disagree with it. "Not here to start flame war." I never comment about those things. My "opinions" as you call it is from experiencing dealing with PI girls, Thai, and Vietnam, everyone here has opinions so you do you I've read your posting as well don't have a problem with them, but you are not saying anything new on here that we don't already know. Unless you found something new club or area than everything about PI is basically rehash . I give advice to those who are newbie and if you bothered to read my newest posting it was in response to best places to pick up PI milf. Yeah its my opinion that you can pick them up in malls but i guess I have to go into it and she was so hot in bed for it to be a war story. But anyways not hear to start flame war, Just trying to really strongly point out to guys on here that they shouldn't believe Pi chicks especially if you are over here and they are over there. Which other members seem not to have made that point strong enough because guys on here still doing stupid things as such. I did my research on PI and thanks to those who have gone before me laid down the groundwork for a non drama trip. I 'm sure that some of your ideas and opinions were very helpful when on my cherry trip. But really is there anything new that's happening in PI? Minus DIA which I'm currently on but not have enough experience to add anything to it to make it worth anyone wild , even that is pretty old stuff because like i said its pretty much rehash. If i said anything on here to offend you, or if you were one of those guys that sent money to a gal over there I'm sorry. My point is simply to make sure us guys don't get used and use the money for our mongering not for some girl in front of a computer whose milking 10 guys saying sucker!
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Sending Money
Yes I have sent money before and I'll do it again, why? No not because my little head told me to. I am not a member of any dating sites. I don't send money to girls I have never meet, and I don't send girls a monthly salary to live off. These are girls I have met a number of times over a number of years.
I have read opinions about sending money, and I do take that into consideration when deciding to send money or not. Everyone has a different story, and reading sites like this gives one the the pro's and cons to their actions.
So! am I "Stupid" maybe, maybe not. But only the one telling the story can really decide if he has been stupid or not.
As it has been said a number of times before, each to their own.
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Do You...
[QUOTE=Bob Down]Yes I have sent money before and I'll do it again, why? No not because my little head told me to. I am not a member of any dating sites. I don't send money to girls I have never meet, and I don't send girls a monthly salary to live off. These are girls I have met a number of times over a number of years.
I have read opinions about sending money, and I do take that into consideration when deciding to send money or not. Everyone has a different story, and reading sites like this gives one the the pro's and cons to their actions.
So! am I "Stupid" maybe, maybe not. But only the one telling the story can really decide if he has been stupid or not.
As it has been said a number of times before, each to their own.[/QUOTE]
A BD "Do You". In hip hop circles that means do what makes you feel happy. As for sending money to the girls. I have done it at various points in my dealings with Filipinas. I will say this though I am not a fan. When people ask me for money whether family or run of the mill Filipinas I need to hear something pretty convincing to make me go in my wallet.
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Yes, these expenses are correct. I could not fathom why the utility bills are so high there, and the groceries are expensive. I mean these expenses are higher than where I live now in UAE. Almost the same as in the States. I still think you are better off finding a single, never been-married gal with a small family. I. E. Less mouth to feed.
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this post...
She has listed her expenses as:
Water ~2500pesos/month (every day 170pesos)
Mineral? every 3 days 60 total 600pesos a month (is this gas)
School fees/allowance: 3000pesos per week (all 4 students?)
Electricity: 2000pesos/month
Landline Telephone/DSL Internet: 2000pesos/month
Food (whole house) between 6000 and 8000 per month
My question to the forum is are these reasonable expenses? I will have no problem to cover her costs, she is wonderful but I want to be sure that these are reasonable. They SEEM reasonable and fair to me.
Do you think that it is possible for her to really retire from this work? Or is the adage "you can take the girl from the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl" necessarily true? If we are together, we plan to stay in the PI so the same adage (substitute PI for Bar) is not applicable at this time.
Thanks for you help. You can write me a PM or reply to the forum.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bob Down]Yes I have sent money before and I'll do it again, why? No not because my little head told me to. I am not a member of any dating sites. I don't send money to girls I have never meet, and I don't send girls a monthly salary to live off. These are girls I have met a number of times over a number of years.
I have read opinions about sending money, and I do take that into consideration when deciding to send money or not. Everyone has a different story, and reading sites like this gives one the the pro's and cons to their actions.
So! am I "Stupid" maybe, maybe not. But only the one telling the story can really decide if he has been stupid or not.
As it has been said a number of times before, each to their own.[/QUOTE]
So, let me get this straight you give them money once in a blue moon when they hit you up for it, are we talking about amounts in the hundreds of dollars every couple of quarters? I've got a few ladies that are non pro that I basically treat them well when I'm there and will buy them stuff and kick them back a bill or 2 before i leave. I figure they aren't charging me what a bar girl is charging me, so it's my way of saying thanks for a good time. But I never make it a point to send money it becomes habbit forming.
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The Nature Of Life In PI.....
[QUOTE=Pimpster]So, let me get this straight you give them money once in a blue moon when they hit you up for it, are we talking about amounts in the hundreds of dollars every couple of quarters? I've got a few ladies that are non pro that I basically treat them well when I'm there and will buy them stuff and kick them back a bill or 2 before i leave. I figure they aren't charging me what a bar girl is charging me, so it's my way of saying thanks for a good time. But I never make it a point to send money it becomes habbit forming.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I feel you 100 percent. I have a friend in Cebu whom I help out from time to time. It's never more then a $100 and it's not often which for me that is pocket change. That's the nature of living or visiting PI the majority of the people need financial assistance from time to time it's that simple.
About that habit forming soliciting. Of course it is. What I have learned when dealing with Filipinas if you they want money from you make them work for it whether in the sack or out of it.
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]A BD "Do You". In hip hop circles that means do what makes you feel happy. As for sending money to the girls. I have done it at various points in my dealings with Filipinas. I will say this though I am not a fan. When people ask me for money whether family or run of the mill Filipinas I need to hear something pretty convincing to make me go in my wallet.[/QUOTE]
I agree I am not a fan too, I have never had the "need money for family" or the "sick buffalo" line before. I too need a good story before I go into my wallet.
Pimpster.
Hundreds of dollars, No.
Once and a blue moon, Yes.
Every couple of quarters, No.
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[QUOTE=Bob Down]I agree I am not a fan too, I have never had the "need money for family" or the "sick buffalo" line before. I too need a good story before I go into my wallet.
Pimpster.
Hundreds of dollars, No.
Once and a blue moon, Yes.
Every couple of quarters, No.[/QUOTE]
Glad to hear that, I don't think anyone who visits the PI or talks to PI girls should have the word sucker written on their chest, but at the same time I think we should do right by them if they do right by us. It helps me sleep better at night when I feel that I'm just not using non pro for purely sex. Its more of friends with benefits sort of arrangements.
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Who makes the best wive?
I was wondering where you would rank filipinas if you had to get married, if looks wasn't a factor, beautiful women in every single culture. I personally don't think that filipna makes good wives the moment you bring them to the states. They tend to become very Americanize and over the top and start to compete with the jones attitude. No offense meant to anyone who is happily married to a filipina, this is just my observation from the filipinas I've met in california. I personally feel that Japanese women make bomb ass wives. One of the major advantage of filipina have over other asians is that they speak english. Love to hear feedback from all of you guys out there.
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Good/Bad
[QUOTE=Pimpster]I was wondering where you would rank filipinas if you had to get married, if looks wasn't a factor, beautiful women in every single culture. I personally don't think that filipna makes good wives the moment you bring them to the states. They tend to become very Americanize and over the top and start to compete with the jones attitude. No offense meant to anyone who is happily married to a filipina, this is just my observation from the filipinas I've met in california. I personally feel that Japanese women make bomb ass wives. One of the major advantage of filipina have over other asians is that they speak english. Love to hear feedback from all of you guys out there.[/QUOTE]
I think Filipinas make excellent wives using what women I have experienced as a measure. They have no problem doing stuff around the house and will back you and support you 100 percent. They seem to always be in a cheerful mood and can really give you a boost after shitty day at the office. Now that I have said the good it is time for the bad.
I live with a Filipina in Manila. She already try’s that keeping up with the Jones shit in terms of wanting jewelry, cars etc….I have seen this behavior from other Filipinas and Filipina friends as well. Second thing is they are very clingy you can’t go take a shit without them running behind you. That becomes nerve wrecking after a while.
The other thing is the families coming around asking for “assistance.” I have been lucky in this department as my ole lady is not close with them but for the majority of other Filipinas sadly this is not the case.
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]I think Filipinas make excellant wives.
I think Filipinas make excellent wives they have no problem doing stuff around the house and will back you and support you 100 percent. They seem to always be in a cheerful mood and can really give you a boost after shitty day at the office. Now that I have said the good it is time for the bad.
I live with a Filipina in Manila. She already try’s that keeping up with the Jones shit in terms of wanting jewelry, cars etc….I have seen this behavior from other Filipinas and Filipina friends as well. Second thing is they are very clingy. You can’t go take a shit without them running behind you. That becomes nerve wrecking after a while.
The other thing is the families coming around asking for “assistance.” I have been lucky in this department as my ole lady is not close with them but for the majority of other Filipinas sadly this is not the case.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you, I'm thinking of living in Pi part time when I retire, but I guess I should have asked which ones make excellent wives when you take them back to the states?
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My experience is much like Daddy Warbucks. They don't have to leave the Phils to get into the "keeping up with the Jones" mindset. They are very, very jealous and their families often treat you like a walking ATM. If I were to marry one, I would never bring her to the US to live. There are sufficient cultural differences to make that a rather difficult proposition. At their core, filipinas are women just like women everywhere else with all the drama that goes with it. Don't get me wrong, when they're fun, they're a lot of fun which is why we like them. Just have to be careful who you get into a relationship with.
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[QUOTE=Finrod]My experience is much like Daddy Warbucks. They don't have to leave the Phils to get into the "keeping up with the Jones" mindset. They are very, very jealous and their families often treat you like a walking ATM. If I were to marry one, I would never bring her to the US to live. There are sufficient cultural differences to make that a rather difficult proposition. At their core, filipinas are women just like women everywhere else with all the drama that goes with it. Don't get me wrong, when they're fun, they're a lot of fun which is why we like them. Just have to be careful who you get into a relationship with.[/QUOTE]
So you would pick filipina over women from other cultures if you had a choice? I've rarely have any problems Japanese , vietnamese, or thailand girls with do the keeping up with the jones. Most of my problems have been with chinese and PI One of the main reason thats i really like PI girls is because they speak decent english. While they are catholic and all the moment PI girls come to the states i think they change over night compared to other girls, in many instances that older guy they married will be on his way out the moment she gets a greencard. That white shinning armor turns out to be broke white guy driving a clunker if the age difference is 30 plus years old. Unless you have the means to live well, I've always felt that marry a hot young little thing and bringing her back to the states is just asking for divorce. They just become another american woman.
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Reasons For Getting Married..
[QUOTE=Pimpster]So you would pick filipina over women from other cultures if you had a choice? I've rarely have any problems Japanese , vietnamese, or thailand girls with do the keeping up with the jones. Most of my problems have been with chinese and PI One of the main reason thats i really like PI girls is because they speak decent english. While they are catholic and all the moment PI girls come to the states i think they change over night compared to other girls, in many instances that older guy they married will be on his way out the moment she gets a greencard. That white shinning armor turns out to be broke white guy driving a clunker if the age difference is 30 plus years old. Unless you have the means to live well, I've always felt that marry a hot young little thing and bringing her back to the states is just asking for divorce. They just become another american woman.[/QUOTE]
I have heard of this from a lot of different places about them bailing on the guys once they arrive in the States. My questions to you is why you want to get married? Also why you want to marry a women from a different social/racial background then yourself?
I have been there and done that and I don't think no women on this earth is good enough or worth enough to make me commit to fully. Also the whole marrying then mongering thing man whats the point?
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Single is best, IMHO!
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]I have heard of this from a lot of different places about them bailing on the guys once they arrive in the States. My questions to you is why you want to get married? Also why you want to marry a women from a different social/racial background then yourself?
I have been there and done that and I don't think no women on this earth is good enough or worth enough to make me commit to fully. Also the whole marrying then mongering thing man whats the point?[/QUOTE]
I think I agree with DW on this also. I heard all the same things over 20 years ago, about Koreans marrying only for the purpose of getting the green card and then dumping the guy for someone better. I guess I was lucky. It took about 13 years before I noticed the "keep up with the Joneses" attitude kick in. But when it did kick, it kicked damned hard! As for the dumping thing, I'm wishing that would hurry up and kick in. I've been separated from her for almost 3 years now, and I can't get her to agree to doing an uncontested divorce, or anything that would make the divorce go smoothly. Anyone know of a good lawyer in TX (or an assassin in Korea)? :D
I have had a couple of Filipina girlfriends. Both lived with me for a while (at different time periods, of course). The first got into the "keep up with Jones" thing immediately. The kuripot (cheap) aproach was absolutely not for her. We split after she returned to PI and started demanding that if I did not send her more than $1000/month, visit her at least every 2 months with expensive gifts (and not so much as looking at other girls), then I obviously didn't love her. She was correct!
The second one, I thought was the greatest woman I could ever find, at least when I first got involved with her. She told me that she had no problem with me playing around with other girls, as long as I returned home to sleep with her. She refused to let me buy her expensive things. She even resisted when I wanted to buy things she needed, like a winter coat in the middle of a Korean December. She would insist that she was warm enough with her thin sweatshirt on, while standing there visibly shaking. The problem came when I took what she had told me literally. I continued chatting with various girls online. I would not hide from her when I was admiring a nice ass walking down the street. I did many things that I would never had done in front of a girl that was obviously jealous. But she had said it was alright. Right? ... Very WRONG! She never let me forget what I did to make her feel like I didn't care about her.
I guess my point is that you will never be able to tell what a woman from any culture will be like as a wife, until she is your wife. ... And then, it's to late to do anything about it.
I have heard stories of guys living in PI, Thailand, or some other 3rd world country, like a king with their herum (not sure about my spelling there). They hire all kinds of cuties to do various jobs around their house (probably to include bedroom duties) and take them out on the town every now and then. I envy those guys (if they really do exist). Personally, I think (getting and) staying single is the best option in a great mongering area like PI.
Happy Mongering!
HW
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]I have heard of this from a lot of different places about them bailing on the guys once they arrive in the States. My questions to you is why you want to get married? Also why you want to marry a women from a different social/racial background then yourself?
I have been there and done that and I don't think no women on this earth is good enough or worth enough to make me commit to fully. Also the whole marrying then mongering thing man whats the point?[/QUOTE]
Well, I have no plan on marrying any filipina, and bringing her back to the states I don't think is a culture shock for them versus other ethnic groups for whatever they tend to become very Americanize which can be a really bad thing if you ask me. My original posting was asking men who have mongered in various different countries and experience different types of fruits to see which one would be the best if they had to marry. I do have a friend who is retired in Cebu, and lives like a king in every sense of the word. He would be considered very well off here, but in PI he can party like a rockstar! I remember when he first started living in PI. I just couldn't believe how he was living he had two cute maids from the province which he took to bed, bars girls all the time it was amazing site! After my first visit there I was hooked. I hope to semi retire in PI when I'm old marry some cute young thing so I can bed her without condom and have my fun on the side.
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DW1,
My wife is Korean also. We have been legally separated since 2005 but are still living together. She told me she wouldn't divorce me because it would make me too happy. The woman is crazy!
Still Skinning Them Up!
Yella Man
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[QUOTE=Yella Man]DW1,
My wife is Korean also. We have been legally separated since 2005 but are still living together. She told me she wouldn't divorce me because it would make me too happy. The woman is crazy!
Still Skinning Them Up!
Yella Man[/QUOTE]
Any judge in the USA won't keep two people married if one of them wants out. Where did your wife go to law school?
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[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Any judge in the USA won't keep two people married if one of them wants out. Where did your wife go to law school?[/QUOTE]
I thought it wasn't quite simple as that especially when there is financial matters involved? Not that I'm even close to a lawyer, you always see in the movies where he or she is refusing to sign papers to finalize the divorce etc...
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wanted to know if any of you gents know if its true
Met a guy who is an american pinoy, told me that don't go to the bars you want to hit up nice young girls for cheap prices. Go to the colleges many of the girls there need money but don't want to be seen in the bars. He stated all I would have to do is go to security officier and give him some change and he could point out which ones are doing what. any truth to that?
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Anyplace As Long As It Is In PI
[QUOTE=Pimpster]Met a guy who is an american pinoy, told me that don't go to the bars you want to hit up nice young girls for cheap prices. Go to the colleges many of the girls there need money but don't want to be seen in the bars. He stated all I would have to do is go to security officier and give him some change and he could point out which ones are doing what. any truth to that?[/QUOTE]
Any Place in PI is a nice place to meet Filipinas if you are a foreigner. You should get out to Dubai to see the real Filipina attitude it's an eye opener.
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Any Place in PI is a nice place to meet Filipinas if you are a foreigner. You should get out to Dubai to see the real Filipina attitude it's an eye opener.[/QUOTE]
I'm not a newbie to PI, I have my regular girls in Pi and pick them up at the malls and what not. But the thought of young college girls lining up there and you can essentially" bar fine them" because they need money for school is just so appealing. Fresh girls that you don't even have to work at and play the I'm looking for a gf sort of game, that I play at the malls etc. Pay as you go with true non pro girls who need a bit of pocket money.
Love to hear your experience with girls in dubai. I plan to hook up with a single mom who just got back from dubai.
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Philippine Goggles....
[QUOTE=Pimpster]I'm not a newbie to PI, I have my regular girls in Pi and pick them up at the malls and what not. But the thought of young college girls lining up there and you can essentially" bar fine them" because they need money for school is just so appealing. Fresh girls that you don't even have to work at and play the I'm looking for a gf sort of game, that I play at the malls etc. Pay as you go with true non pro girls who need a bit of pocket money.
Love to hear your experience with girls in dubai. I plan to hook up with a single mom who just got back from dubai.[/QUOTE]
Pimpster. Guys get disillusioned and think Filipinas are nice and sweet. You come out to Dubai see them when they have a little money in their pockets see how they act towards you....I am late 20s. Have the body of fucking football star and the pockets of a American Judge. I have seen them even display racism in Dubai. I like Dubai. It helps clear up the bullshit. It's like contact lens solution for Philippine Goggles. What are Philippines Goggles?
I am a handsome man. These 20 something Filipinas really like me for me.
Yeah if you believe that I have beach front property in Antarctica for sale. :D
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Pimpster. Guys get disillusioned and think Filipinas are nice and sweet. You come out to Dubai see them when they have a little money in their pockets see how they act towards you....I am late 20s. Have the body of fucking football star and the pockets of a American Judge. I have seen them even display racism in Dubai. I like Dubai. It helps clear up the bullshit. It's like contact lens solution for Philippine Goggles. What are Philippines Goggles?
I am a handsome man. These 20 something Filipinas really like me for me.
Yeah if you believe that I have beach front property in Antarctica for sale. :D[/QUOTE]
Wow that bad? I never ranked filipina very high once you taken them out of Pi, as potential mates or whatever. I just didn't realize that it was that bad. I've seen filpinas that have lived in the states awhile and I must say they aren't even close to something that I would consider dating long term, that has nothing to do with whether I find them attractive or not, its just an attitude thing. I know a gal who worked in dubai, and I'm meeting her in january got massive attitude . She cute and I just plan to tap that and go on.
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Surprised
I'm surprised too at DW's conclusions, though I do not doubt his experience for a second. I've only been to Dubai once, and I've only met a couple of Filipinas who work there, and I didn't get that impression. Then again, our meetings were short and I wanted nothing from these women, nor they from me, so my impressions are probably not worth much.
I'm somewhat surprised too by the racism, as I've never seen it displayed here. I've been out on the town in Manila with black friends from Africa, and I didn't notice that they were treated any differently than I was. Is my sample too small, or are Filipinas normally racist?
GE
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Some Of My Experiences...
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I'm surprised too at DW's conclusions, though I do not doubt his experience for a second. I've only been to Dubai once, and I've only met a couple of Filipinas who work there, and I didn't get that impression. Then again, our meetings were short and I wanted nothing from these women, nor they from me, so my impressions are probably not worth much.
I'm somewhat surprised too by the racism, as I've never seen it displayed here. I've been out on the town in Manila with black friends from Africa, and I didn't notice that they were treated any differently than I was. Is my sample too small, or are Filipinas normally racist?
GE[/QUOTE]
I have been traveling to Dubai for the last 3 1/2 years every 3-4 months for business. I went with a Filipina friend to one her friends house to pick up a young Cebuana. They were angry with her when she brought me in the house. They said they thought I was an African but being an American I was OK. Met A Filipina on-line who was living there. We chatted for days on end. Never traded photos. I told hey I forgot tell you I am black. Right after she pulled a Bin Laden I never got another message.
Some time I look at them in the club you can see the disdain in their eyes. I have bagged a couple of them in Dubai but these are the type that will go with a damn martian if he had Dirhim in his pocket. Guys don't get the wrong outlook Dubai/Filipinas is a great place but there as I said you see the real them not the Peso/Visa seeking ones you find in PI who will go home with Papa Shango from WWF if given the chance.
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With respect to discrimination, filipina often discriminate on the same line that Indian people do if not more so. Here what I've notice about filipina living in america, not all but the ones that still speak english with the accent. They will discriminate against their own people if you are from the province and you don't speak tagalag. If you are filipino and you are dark they don't like that they say its dirty. Actually, I've been corresponding with a light skin filipina on DIA and she refers to this a lot "you know the dark people who work outside they look dirty". If you are filipino and you speak english at work instead of tagalag, they don't like you. If you are black forget about it. If you are asian they are somewhat ok with that but you have to be really good looking americanize and have $$$. If you old white guy forget about it no matter how much money you have. Even if they are old they want someone looking younger than they are, preferably blond and blue eyes pale skin but will settle for cute hispanic guy. Many will only date whites though. Its almost an inferiority complex issue. Of course this is just what I've seen in the hospitals that I've worked for. Keep in mind that we are talking about filipina that haven't been living in the u.s. for decades upon decades and there always exception to the rule, but in general they are like this.
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I learned something
Thanks to Daddy Warbucks and Pimpster. I guess you're never too old to learn, and I learned something, no matter how unpleasant.
As an old white guy I guess I better stay here where attracting younger Filipinas is never a problem, rather than going back to the states to face rejection. I have more the body of the football than the football player, and though I might get taken for 50ish, I'll sure never be able to pretend I'm younger than that. I guess here in the Philippines the expectation that you have money and may be able to offer them a visa more than compensates for the age and physical stature. Think I'll stay here.
GE
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Thanks to Daddy Warbucks and Pimpster. I guess you're never too old to learn, and I learned something, no matter how unpleasant.
As an old white guy I guess I better stay here where attracting younger Filipinas is never a problem, rather than going back to the states to face rejection. I have more the body of the football than the football player, and though I might get taken for 50ish, I'll sure never be able to pretend I'm younger than that. I guess here in the Philippines the expectation that you have money and may be able to offer them a visa more than compensates for the age and physical stature. Think I'll stay here.
GE[/QUOTE]
One day I want to be where you are at right now living like a rockstar. i assume you have young cute maids the whole works.
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[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Any judge in the USA won't keep two people married if one of them wants out. Where did your wife go to law school?[/QUOTE]
I could easily get a divorce PLC, but not without loosing part of my pension, giving up a large chunk of my income per month for alimony, and continuing to pay for her health insurance. It's really a lifestyle issue for me. Do I want to live like a pauper just to be rid of her ass? I don't think so! I just tolerate her and continue to do my own thing.
Still Skinning Them Up!
Yella Man
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Careful what you wish for...
[QUOTE=Pimpster]One day I want to be where you are at right now living like a rockstar. i assume you have young cute maids the whole works.[/QUOTE]
I do have cute young maids actually, but I don't touch them, since the lady I live with would probably get pissed off and I'd lose some perfectly good maids. I do not live like a rock star though I did when I first came here. Actually, while here in Davao, I have a pretty normal life and I do not fool around. However, I travel often, both around Mindanao, and in Manila, and that's when the urge to sample whatever is out there kicks in and I indulge myself.
I know this is going to sound bizarre, but when you actually live here, grabbing a different woman every night month after month gets old in a hurry. I did that for the first six months or so that I was here and got tired of it. So now I've found a modus vivendi that works well for me.
GE
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Filipinas in Dubai
I've been in Dubai 7 years and I know many Filipinas - I've had a few Filipina GFs in that time (and a couple of them on the side now). I don't think they are any more racist than other nationalities. But they are into fun with anyone, just like any other girl who is overseas and away from the constraints of family and friends.
PS - Goodenough - agreed. I have a cute Filipina maid, but I don't touch her, for obvious reasons. Some of her friends have flirted with me, but I play straight. No need for the hassle.
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[QUOTE=Yella Man]DW1,
My wife is Korean also. We have been legally separated since 2005 but are still living together. She told me she wouldn't divorce me because it would make me too happy. The woman is crazy! ...
I could easily get a divorce, but not without loosing part of my pension, giving up a large chunk of my income per month for alimony, and continuing to pay for her health insurance. It's really a lifestyle issue for me. Do I want to live like a pauper just to be rid of her ass? I don't think so! I just tolerate her and continue to do my own thing.
[/QUOTE]Man, that would be a living hell. Tied to an ex-wife who doesn't want you, but you have to tolerate her because you don't want to lose part of your pension. Sorry to hear that. Makes you wonder what all the years of hard work were for.
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[QUOTE=Piper1]Man, that would be a living hell. Tied to an ex-wife who doesn't want you, but you have to tolerate her because you don't want to lose part of your pension. Sorry to hear that. Makes you wonder what all the years of hard work were for.[/QUOTE]
Whatever you think about Donald Trump doesn't really matter, what matters it the man was right about marriage and prenup!
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I do have cute young maids actually, but I don't touch them, since the lady I live with would probably get pissed off and I'd lose some perfectly good maids. I do not live like a rock star though I did when I first came here. Actually, while here in Davao, I have a pretty normal life and I do not fool around. However, I travel often, both around Mindanao, and in Manila, and that's when the urge to sample whatever is out there kicks in and I indulge myself.
I know this is going to sound bizarre, but when you actually live here, grabbing a different woman every night month after month gets old in a hurry. I did that for the first six months or so that I was here and got tired of it. So now I've found a modus vivendi that works well for me.
GE[/QUOTE]
GE, you suppose to at least give a guy a few days to of hope etc.. before you burst my bubble like that man. If I was living in PI or any other country where my dollar goes a long way and the girls are hot and easy. I just couldn't resist too many women and the hormones raging. I hope the gal you with is like just the salt of the earth and she super hot and great in bed. For me thats the only way thing that would prevent me from tapping everything in sight. Otherwise I would be I'll hook up with a stead and she can stay with me, but i would mess around on the side on a regular basis.
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[QUOTE=Piper1]I've been in Dubai 7 years and I know many Filipinas - I've had a few Filipina GFs in that time (and a couple of them on the side now). I don't think they are any more racist than other nationalities. But they are into fun with anyone, just like any other girl who is overseas and away from the constraints of family and friends.
PS - Goodenough - agreed. I have a cute Filipina maid, but I don't touch her, for obvious reasons. Some of her friends have flirted with me, but I play straight. No need for the hassle.[/QUOTE]
Have to disagree with you on this one filipina are more racist in this sense, if you are black and go to lets say vietnam or china. The chances of you getting any play, even if you have money with something young and hot is slim to nill even with pro girls, and just foreget about it with non pro girls. Filipina will hook up with you regardless of what you look like etc.. as long as you got money and a ticket out of there. When they get to u.s. their hatred becomes apparent,, thats two face. With respect to families etc.. I think its easier to get into the knickers of filipina and thai girls that are non working girls than just about any other asian girls. Its a cultural aspect, most filipina family will offer you their daughter cherry if they think its her ticket out of PI, not so with many other cultures.
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Unless I read you wrong, I think you're agreeing with me.
No matter. I'm not black, so I can only go by what my black friends tell me, and what Filipinas say (and do).
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I do have cute young maids actually, but I don't touch them, since the lady I live with would probably get pissed off and I'd lose some perfectly good maids.
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Lucky GE - her indoors handpicks the maids and I can assure you they are not cute and young, and certainly not sexy unless you find the feminine equivalent of Uncle Fester a turn on :D.
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In the same sinking boat...bailing water
[QUOTE=Yella Man]DW1,
My wife is Korean also. We have been legally separated since 2005 but are still living together. She told me she wouldn't divorce me because it would make me too happy. The woman is crazy!
Still Skinning Them Up!
Yella Man[/QUOTE]
I'm in the same boat as you are YM! Married to, but separated (wishing it was legally) from, a Korean. I've been trying to get her to do a separation agreement since I moved out in 2005, so I can avoid all the expenses of a full blown fight in court. The problem is the crazy b*tch won't make up her mind about things, and put it on paper. She keeps e-mailing to say she wants to do it the quick and easy way, but refuses to go to the FREE legal service on the military base!
I don't have a lot to loose. We are joint owners of a house in Texas. But that is really the only thing of value that we have. I just don't want to be ordered to be paying her half (or more) of my paycheck. However, I am getting more and more irritated with the idea that she won't cooperate on the separation agreement/uncontested divorce idea. I'm ready to contact the lawyers and just file and accept what happens.
Anyone know a good lawyer in Texas (or a good hit man in Korea)?
Happy Mongering!
HW
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Fucking the Maid
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Lucky GE - her indoors handpicks the maids and I can assure you they are not cute and young, and certainly not sexy unless you find the feminine equivalent of Uncle Fester a turn on :D.[/QUOTE]
Friend stationed at Clark AB back when had the problem of messing with the maid so his Pinay wife hired an old ugly cousin to keep house.
Slim
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Pimpster. Guys get disillusioned and think Filipinas are nice and sweet. You come out to Dubai see them when they have a little money in their pockets see how they act towards you....I am late 20s. Have the body of fucking football star and the pockets of a American Judge. I have seen them even display racism in Dubai. I like Dubai. It helps clear up the bullshit. It's like contact lens solution for Philippine Goggles. What are Philippines Goggles?
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Wonder if your findings are location specific to Dubai, Daddy? My anecdotal evidence taken from years spent living in Hong Kong contradicts your observations. There is an large Filipina ex-pat community working there as Maids and Nannies, who are, if anything, easier to date than if in the Philippines. Guess because they are lonely for guys, and there are comparitively few Filipino's working there. Central on a Sunday, was atwitter with thousands of Pinays on their day off, and it was a rare event for me to go there and not leave with a Filipina on my arm. Had a mate who played a mean guitar and all we had to do was sit in Chater or Cenotaph Gardens, strum a few tunes, and we were surrounded by young Pinays, like magic or the fucking pied piper, or something. If that failed, it was to the Neptune Disco, in Wanchai, which is a bit like the LA Cafe but with more amateurs and a sure fire pick-up joint. Ahhh ...happy days :).
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]Friend stationed at Clark AB back when had the problem of messing with the maid so his Pinay wife hired an old ugly cousin to keep house.
Slim[/QUOTE]
So, let me get this straight guy living in PI married someone in PI and letting her make the calls? Why is he even living in PI than he might as well be living here
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Getting a girl pregnant?
Ok off topic here, but some of you guys go barebacks whether it be with gf or bargirls. I'm sure at some point one of these girls gets knocked up. If she wants to keep the babies, can she go after you for child support in PI or pursue you for child support in the U.S. courts?
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Tell her you moved to Korea. That will send some electricity up her as.
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]I'm in the same boat as you are YM! Married to, but separated (wishing it was legally) from, a Korean. I've been trying to get her to do a separation agreement since I moved out in 2005, so I can avoid all the expenses of a full blown fight in court. The problem is the crazy b*tch won't make up her mind about things, and put it on paper. She keeps e-mailing to say she wants to do it the quick and easy way, but refuses to go to the FREE legal service on the military base!
I don't have a lot to loose. We are joint owners of a house in Texas. But that is really the only thing of value that we have. I just don't want to be ordered to be paying her half (or more) of my paycheck. However, I am getting more and more irritated with the idea that she won't cooperate on the separation agreement/uncontested divorce idea. I'm ready to contact the lawyers and just file and accept what happens.
Anyone know a good lawyer in Texas (or a good hit man in Korea)?
Happy Mongering!
HW[/QUOTE]
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1)deposit your specimen on her face - take pics
2) ...on belly - goodenough.
3) ask if she is using brth control.
4) eco-friendly - don't produce more carbon gobbling little kids. ?Not good for the mother, not good for the environment.
5) science can prove patertnity, now, and forever into the future, so you never know.
X
[QUOTE=Pimpster]Ok off topic here, but some of you guys go barebacks whether it be with gf or bargirls. I'm sure at some point one of these girls gets knocked up. If she wants to keep the babies, can she go after you for child support in PI or pursue you for child support in the U.S. courts?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Pimpster]Ok off topic here, but some of you guys go barebacks whether it be with gf or bargirls. I'm sure at some point one of these girls gets knocked up. If she wants to keep the babies, can she go after you for child support in PI or pursue you for child support in the U.S. courts?[/QUOTE]
I have only had 1 girl insist that I use a condom, she was 20 and did not want to get Prego. All the others, we never tallked about it.
Afterwards, I did not have one try to claim prego or that she was missing her period and was scared.
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Pregnant
Chatting with a gal I know rom Manila.. 20 and just got knocked up.
The guy who did the knocking even wrote an official declaration at Australian Embassy that he had sex with her and would be the father of her child if there was a child ( he doesnt know how many others shes been with at same time but thats something esle)
Anyways now the guy has done a runner and girl will soon go to Aussie Embassy to ask for their help in locating him. Wil be interesting to see what they do and how they accept her story.
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[QUOTE=X Man]1)deposit your specimen on her face - take pics
2) ...on belly - goodenough.
3) ask if she is using brth control.
4) eco-friendly - don't produce more carbon gobbling little kids. ?Not good for the mother, not good for the environment.
5) science can prove patertnity, now, and forever into the future, so you never know.
X[/QUOTE]
Good advice X but I like to deposit in her mouth as lots of proteins. On the face is good also for the pictures and the health benefits to her skin :)
I have had one tell she was pregnant so I went with point 5 - once I said lets get DNA she admitted she was lying
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Update on my PI Girl
Back in September I wrote to this forum [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=788618&postcount=1648[/url] and was grateful for all the member input.
Since that time, I have continued with this relationship.
My GF is awesome and totally supportive of our relationship. We have progressed quite far in the month.
There was a single 'irregularity' that caused me tremendous grief. However we dealt with it in a good way together, I am sure it will never happen again. She considers it a test of our 'love', if it was, I passed very well (even if I was hurt) and she failed (miserably). We have moved on from this time. Although she tried to 'protect' me from the truth, it came out and she had to end her relationship in front of me (on the speakerphone) which she did and gladly it ended.
In fact we have moved on very quickly and very far from our meager beginnings.
To rid her of her past, we destroyed the 'social' networking site she was a member of. We also ended all of her Yahoo accounts reversibly as both of us have part of the password. Should our relationship ever end, she can have my part of the password to continue with her old life. I am certain she will not want to go back. Also her old phone numbers were cancelled and all numbers were deleted from her phone. The SIM cards wre destroyed too.
We cannot erase the past, but we can live with it. (The way I see it is that a monger is really now better than a BG, except we pay for what we want and get to choose the BG, where as they have to take what they can get...) I really don't care about the past, I want to enjoy our future together.
After a week in Thailand together, we are now living in an newly rented apartment in Shenzhen China. I continue to work at my old job. I am divorcing my Chinese wife in Hong Kong. We are looking forward to a nice future together.
I support her family, however we will pare down their expenses to the absolute minimum. Nobody will go without, and all of her nieces in school will be able to continue.
I can see a wonderful change in her attitude and life. She is alot more positive now, more passionate, totally supportive of me of us, our relationship is great. We have been through some really hard times, together and in both of our pasts, but we are hopeful of our future together. Even if we have to live a sinmple life together, we can always be happy. What more can you want? maybe I am lucky, but I think that 'right' PI girls can be really great. A large majority of the PI BGs I met, I would not consider for a LT relationship but some were very nice.
We will come to PI in November. Looking forward to the trip.
Sure it is still early days, we are barely more than 3 months together but I am very positive in this relationship.
My girl is awesome, we have a great time together. I never had a GF before in my life that was a supportive as she is. Interestingly she is alot more domesticated than I could ever imagine. She is very organized and knows how to take care a home, my and actually all people in general. The more I learn about her, the more I like.
She is not perfect, noone is, when we took our new apartment together, she became mad at me when I asked my Chinese wife (separated-->divorce) for help with a contract. Really!! I could not believe it but she wants me to take care of things myself, even if I have no chance of understanding a Chinese contract! maybe part jealousy, part stubborness. I will try to do things without help. What other problems does she have? Really none as far I can tell. She is a nice woman, very open to learning and new experiences. Even yesterday I learned that she has NEVER been on a bicycle. Something I will enjoy teaching her to do. I am very happy.
If you can find the right girl, even a BG with great talent, take a chance. You may find great happiness.
Yellow Fever
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Military
[QUOTE=Pimpster]So, let me get this straight guy living in PI married someone in PI and letting her make the calls? Why is he even living in PI than he might as well be living here[/QUOTE]Sometimes when you are in the U.S. military, you go where you are told. Not sure how long they were married, but she spoke with no noticeable accent and Clark was not their first assignment. They may have been married stateside and then assigned to the P.I. Evidently she was good enough to put up with the B.S.
Slim
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Yellow fever part 2
Good luck.
Give us updates see how this plays out for you.
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Wish it was that simple
[quote=x man]
1)deposit your specimen on her face - take pics
2) ...on belly - goodenough.
3) ask if she is using brth control.
4) eco-friendly - don't produce more carbon gobbling little kids. ?not good for the mother, not good for the environment.
5) science can prove patertnity, now, and forever into the future, so you never know.
x[/quote]
you forgot about the vasectomy option! :d
[quote=x man]tell her you moved to korea. that will send some electricity up her as.[/quote]
thanks for the suggestion x! but she moved with me to korea over 4 years ago and we both still live here. i moved to another city, within driving distance to work, but it's not enough. what we used to call the korean grapevine (and i beleive there is a pinay version as well) is still very active. i can't fart without someone telling her how loud and smelly it was!
[quote=yellow fever #2]if you can find the right girl, even a bg with great talent, take a chance. you may find great happiness.[/quote]
tried it a few times. always seems to end up that they find some info on my previous mongering activities, and decide that i can't be trusted anymore. then it just turns into constant nagging until i can get rid of her. not trying to discourage anyone. just passing on my limited experience.
actually, i'm debating about what to do with the current gf. she knows about all of my past activities, because i thought she was one of those girls that would allow me to continue the hobby when we first met. after all, she told me it was ok with her if i wanted to "play with other girls." now she tells me that she was a virgin when she said that, and she didn't mean that it was alright for me to fuck around. she gets pissed at me often, just thinking about all the girls i've been with before her. i'm thinking i would be best to cut my losses and go back to more active mongering.
hw
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[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Back in September I wrote to this forum [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=788618&postcount=1648[/url] and was grateful for all the member input.
Since that time, I have continued with this relationship.
My GF is awesome and totally supportive of our relationship. We have progressed quite far in the month.
There was a single 'irregularity' that caused me tremendous grief. However we dealt with it in a good way together, I am sure it will never happen again. She considers it a test of our 'love', if it was, I passed very well (even if I was hurt) and she failed (miserably). We have moved on from this time. Although she tried to 'protect' me from the truth, it came out and she had to end her relationship in front of me (on the speakerphone) which she did and gladly it ended.
In fact we have moved on very quickly and very far from our meager beginnings.
To rid her of her past, we destroyed the 'social' networking site she was a member of. We also ended all of her Yahoo accounts reversibly as both of us have part of the password. Should our relationship ever end, she can have my part of the password to continue with her old life. I am certain she will not want to go back. Also her old phone numbers were cancelled and all numbers were deleted from her phone. The SIM cards wre destroyed too.
We cannot erase the past, but we can live with it. (The way I see it is that a monger is really now better than a BG, except we pay for what we want and get to choose the BG, where as they have to take what they can get...) I really don't care about the past, I want to enjoy our future together.
After a week in Thailand together, we are now living in an newly rented apartment in Shenzhen China. I continue to work at my old job. I am divorcing my Chinese wife in Hong Kong. We are looking forward to a nice future together.
I support her family, however we will pare down their expenses to the absolute minimum. Nobody will go without, and all of her nieces in school will be able to continue.
I can see a wonderful change in her attitude and life. She is alot more positive now, more passionate, totally supportive of me of us, our relationship is great. We have been through some really hard times, together and in both of our pasts, but we are hopeful of our future together. Even if we have to live a sinmple life together, we can always be happy. What more can you want? maybe I am lucky, but I think that 'right' PI girls can be really great. A large majority of the PI BGs I met, I would not consider for a LT relationship but some were very nice.
We will come to PI in November. Looking forward to the trip.
Sure it is still early days, we are barely more than 3 months together but I am very positive in this relationship.
My girl is awesome, we have a great time together. I never had a GF before in my life that was a supportive as she is. Interestingly she is alot more domesticated than I could ever imagine. She is very organized and knows how to take care a home, my and actually all people in general. The more I learn about her, the more I like.
She is not perfect, noone is, when we took our new apartment together, she became mad at me when I asked my Chinese wife (separated-->divorce) for help with a contract. Really!! I could not believe it but she wants me to take care of things myself, even if I have no chance of understanding a Chinese contract! maybe part jealousy, part stubborness. I will try to do things without help. What other problems does she have? Really none as far I can tell. She is a nice woman, very open to learning and new experiences. Even yesterday I learned that she has NEVER been on a bicycle. Something I will enjoy teaching her to do. I am very happy.
If you can find the right girl, even a BG with great talent, take a chance. You may find great happiness.
Yellow Fever[/QUOTE]
Yellow Fever, this is the same girl that was milking you for water bill of 2500 a month, which is really really over the top as far as water bill is concerened in PI. I would venture to guess that many of us living in the states don't even pay 45 dollars a month for water bill. I personally think that bargirlls can be good gf, and they can have nice attitudes as long as they know that you are not a sucker, that you take care of them well. They are like cats, the moment you stop taking care of them extremely well they will go somewhere else. You want to find a dog like girl for a gf. Dogs will starve with you, cats will find a new place soon as food runs out.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Chatting with a gal I know rom Manila.. 20 and just got knocked up.
The guy who did the knocking even wrote an official declaration at Australian Embassy that he had sex with her and would be the father of her child if there was a child ( he doesnt know how many others shes been with at same time but thats something esle)
Anyways now the guy has done a runner and girl will soon go to Aussie Embassy to ask for their help in locating him. Wil be interesting to see what they do and how they accept her story.[/QUOTE]
i don't know why the guy would write anything down in the first place. If I was the guy I head out of town. I guess I was really curious about if the girl did end up pregnant, because that withdrawl come on tummy isn't always a sure thing sometimes there are swimmers in the pre cum especially if you have sex on a regular basis. I wanted to know if the u.s. could force you to pay child support and all that crap " I highly doubt this, but not sure" I don't think the filipino government even has child support given the number of single mothers out there just getting by.
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I'm preparing for my trip this january, last time i was in PI been a little over ayears ago. i was wondering if any of you guys have been staked when you got back to the u.s. With girls tracking you down etc...
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The guys report
I think the guy wrote the report (and I saw a copy of it, properly attested) was so that if there was a kid, the kid could get an Ausssie passport.
I guess he then got cold feet and did a runner. So now said Filipina is 22 pregnant and not sure whether to chase him or let him run.
Damn glad everything I got was cut long time ago so no danger of this happening to me.
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Water Bill and Past History
[QUOTE=Pimpster]Yellow Fever, this is the same girl that was milking you for water bill of 2500 a month, which is really really over the top as far as water bill is concerened in PI. I would venture to guess that many of us living in the states don't even pay 45 dollars a month for water bill. I personally think that bargirlls can be good gf, and they can have nice attitudes as long as they know that you are not a sucker, that you take care of them well. They are like cats, the moment you stop taking care of them extremely well they will go somewhere else. You want to find a dog like girl for a gf. Dogs will starve with you, cats will find a new place soon as food runs out.[/QUOTE]
Pimpster,
I *may* be a sucker but at least I am a happy sucker. Honestly I don't know what things cost in PI so that is why I asked the question in the first place. I am satisfied and comfortable with the answer and very happy with my present result.
I believe the water bill may be high because she has to have the water trucked in daily to the house. Apparently the house is not hooked to the municipal water supply. Also remember there are lots of people in the house and it seems at least from my GF that they like to take long showers.
In any case I cannot fault my gf, she bought the land herself (Paranaque) and had the house built for herself and her family. In fact the house is not even completely finished as I just learned yesterday. She funded the complete enterprise by herself too and did it to help her family. I can only appreciate the efforts she did to get where they are now.
Perhaps in November I will have a clearer picture of where the funds are going. Certainly it would not be good for her (and us) if she was abusing my generosity - so I think now (at least) it is unlikely to happen.
She is very aware of my situation here in China and she could not be any more supportive of me than she is. I am very lucky to have her in my life.
HW,
I am sure my gf is aware of my mongering activities, just as I am aware of her previous BG self-employment. We are just very open and honest with each other. If we both give up the 'nightlife' (as we have promised), what do we really lose ? I think we can only gain.
I am completely happy with the life we share together, the sex is the best I ever had (and I have sampled hundreds of BGs around the world) and the relationship we have is wonderful. Both of us made sacrifices to be together, I hope we can only make our relationship stronger and that we can survive the test of time.
The way I see it: we cannot change the past, we can only take care of the present time and plan (or hope) for the future. I also think that there is not really much difference between being a monger and being a BG. The biggest difference is in the 'power' of the relationship, as the monger holds all the cards. I have seen a tremendous change in her attitude since we became 'equal' partners.
YF
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]Anyone know a good lawyer in Texas (or a good hit man in Korea)?Happy Mongering!HW[/QUOTE]
I don't know a good lawyer in Texas, but I do know that if you go to Guam and stay for 7 days, you can file a no contest divorce. In 6 months, if she don't respond, you get the divorce.
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[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Pimpster,
I *may* be a sucker but at least I am a happy sucker. Honestly I don't know what things cost in PI so that is why I asked the question in the first place. I am satisfied and comfortable with the answer and very happy with my present result.
I believe the water bill may be high because she has to have the water trucked in daily to the house. Apparently the house is not hooked to the municipal water supply. Also remember there are lots of people in the house and it seems at least from my GF that they like to take long showers.
In any case I cannot fault my gf, she bought the land herself (Paranaque) and had the house built for herself and her family. In fact the house is not even completely finished as I just learned yesterday. She funded the complete enterprise by herself too and did it to help her family. I can only appreciate the efforts she did to get where they are now.
Perhaps in November I will have a clearer picture of where the funds are going. Certainly it would not be good for her (and us) if she was abusing my generosity - so I think now (at least) it is unlikely to happen.
She is very aware of my situation here in China and she could not be any more supportive of me than she is. I am very lucky to have her in my life.
HW,
I am sure my gf is aware of my mongering activities, just as I am aware of her previous BG self-employment. We are just very open and honest with each other. If we both give up the 'nightlife' (as we have promised), what do we really lose ? I think we can only gain.
I am completely happy with the life we share together, the sex is the best I ever had (and I have sampled hundreds of BGs around the world) and the relationship we have is wonderful. Both of us made sacrifices to be together, I hope we can only make our relationship stronger and that we can survive the test of time.
The way I see it: we cannot change the past, we can only take care of the present time and plan (or hope) for the future. I also think that there is not really much difference between being a monger and being a BG. The biggest difference is in the 'power' of the relationship, as the monger holds all the cards. I have seen a tremendous change in her attitude since we became 'equal' partners.
YF[/QUOTE]
If you are happy than, thats all the matter, but be always be prepared to pay for the choices you make. That way if sh*t hits the fan, your not going to be all [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off and everything. With regards to water truck etc.. I can assure you its not going to cost that much. I've personally paid for the type of water bill for one of my part time gf who was sick and couldn't work at the time when I was in PI. Keep in mind that a waitress working in a bar only makes 136 php a day and we are not talking about 8 hour shifts here. With the expenses you mention how in the hell were they getting by given the fact that the average filipino makes less than 100 dollars a month.
As I mention the supportive aspect or equal or whatever yo uwant to phrase often last only as long as the money does with bar girls, but to each his own good luck to yo umy friend.
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[QUOTE=Pimpster]I would venture to guess that many of us living in the states don't even pay 45 dollars a month for water bill.[/QUOTE]I live in Nevada, with a 18,000 gallon swimming pool.
During this past summer, my water bill was $35.00 a month.
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Water
[QUOTE=Pimpster] With regards to water truck etc.. I can assure you its not going to cost that much. I've personally paid for the type of water bill for one of my part time gf who was sick and couldn't work at the time when I was in PI. [/QUOTE]
200 pesos to fill up a 50 gallon overhead tank. With a few living in a house, washing clothes, showers etc, this would last about 2 days. So you are talking of approx 3000 pesos (?65 dollars) a month. I know this because, where I live, we occasionally lose our mains supply, so have to get it trucked in. G
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]200 pesos to fill up a 50 gallon overhead tank. With a few living in a house, washing clothes, showers etc, this would last about 2 days. So you are talking of approx 3000 pesos (?65 dollars) a month. I know this because, where I live, we occasionally lose our mains supply, so have to get it trucked in. G[/QUOTE]
I'm not exactly sure where you are living but I paid for an entire month supply of water for 5 people in the house cost me 1000 php. I personally paid the bill, my whole thing is ok if you want to be generous and pay for it thats your call, but have the wits to ask for the bill. Its always amazes me how grown men can not ask for a bill, something that we do everyday in the u.s. but the moment we go overseas that common sense goes out the door. If you read his link, I think various people indicated it the amounts were excessive
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One sided no-contest divorce?
[QUOTE=Robbaf]I don't know a good lawyer in Texas, but I do know that if you go to Guam and stay for 7 days, you can file a no contest divorce. In 6 months, if she don't respond, you get the divorce.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the input Rabbaf! I have heard of the Guam no-contest divorces, and tried to find as much information as I can on the Internet. However, the basic understanding I got from what I found, is that the no-contest divorce means that both the husband and the wife have agreed to settle things before asking the judge to sign the divorce decree. If you, or any fellow members, have different information about it, please provide it to me! A PM might be best for this, as we are getting a little off of the PI board topic here. :) If it can work the way you suggest, I might take my next vacation in Guam! I have to check out that board for mongering possibilities! :D
Happy Mongering!
HW
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No discouragement
YF
My post was not meant to discourage you from marrying the girl. If that is what you want to do, and you feel it will make you happy, by all means do it. Don't let my, or anyone else's, opinion get in your way. I wish you and your new bride to be all the happiness in the world!
HW
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[QUOTE=Pimpster]I'm not exactly sure where you are living but I paid for an entire month supply of water for 5 people in the house cost me 1000 php. I personally paid the bill, my whole thing is ok if you want to be generous and pay for it thats your call, but have the wits to ask for the bill. Its always amazes me how grown men can not ask for a bill, something that we do everyday in the u.s. but the moment we go overseas that common sense goes out the door. If you read his link, I think various people indicated it the amounts were excessive[/QUOTE]
Paranaque - 200p per delivery is the going rate for a truck to come to your house and fill your overhead tank, the only option many have. Perhaps your 1000p per month was for a piped water supply. My bill for this averages 400p a month but the supply is intermittent. G
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Privacy
[QUOTE=Pimpster]I'm preparing for my trip this january, last time i was in PI been a little over ayears ago. i was wondering if any of you guys have been staked when you got back to the u.s. With girls tracking you down etc...[/QUOTE]
I got a PO. box a block away from my home, best $50 I ever spent. Especailly now days, just for fun I put my address in the Google Street View.
The GSV is a stalkers paradise, it shows a very clear shot of my front house and my car in the driveway.
I found out the hard way, even if you use a calling card from a blocked home phone or work phone in the USA, they see your number on their cell phone caller id. It is a PI law that you can not block you phone number.
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Paranaque - 200p per delivery is the going rate for a truck to come to your house and fill your overhead tank, the only option many have. Perhaps your 1000p per month was for a piped water supply. My bill for this averages 400p a month but the supply is intermittent. G[/QUOTE]
Actually mate, it was by truck so essentially its 1/3 of what your truck bill is. Maybe its the quality of the water maybe the company, or maybe the location wasn't as hard to get to as your own.
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[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]I got a PO. box a block away from my home, best $50 I ever spent. Especailly now days, just for fun I put my address in the Google Street View.
The GSV is a stalkers paradise, it shows a very clear shot of my front house and my car in the driveway.
I found out the hard way, even if you use a calling card from a blocked home phone or work phone in the USA, they see your number on their cell phone caller id. It is a PI law that you can not block you phone number.[/QUOTE]
Wow, thats what I was afraid of a bunch of girls calling you up your home even if you use a calling card! Or worst yet they find out where you work via internet some employers will have your name on their company website as my hospital does. I never give the name of the hospital that I work at, but I'm sure that some resourceful could track me down if they know what city I live in. One would assume that you don't work like 200 miles from the place you work at. I had a girl admit she googled me that I met on DIA and it freaked me out.
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popping non pro girl cherry
I know for many its a crown jewel to get to pop some girls cherry, a lot of mongers from Asia, pay huge sums of money in order to do that. I don't know if any pro girl really has a real cherry. I would assume that cherry girls aren't really good in bed because of lack of experience. I have always shy away from cherry girls in the past, because most are naive and are expecting true love with bf. Recently, I've met several DIA girls that are cherry girls while we don't talk about sleeping together etc.. there is an assumption there. Just wondering who the rest of you more experience members feel about this subject? I personally have always felt that cherry girls should be left to those who have deep emotional affection for them or pretend to and are willing to invest time after the fact so she doesn't feel that she is only being used for sex.
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Cheap water!!
[QUOTE=Pimpster]Actually mate, it was by truck so essentially its 1/3 of what your truck bill is. Maybe its the quality of the water maybe the company, or maybe the location wasn't as hard to get to as your own.[/QUOTE]
Wow man, this sounds an incredible deal! Can I have the name of the water trucking company? - I must use them myself. Now let me get this right. They will truck in an entire months supply for 1T pesos? How many deliveries will they make or is this unlimited? Can't be just 1 as it would take a fucking big truck and where would you put all that water? So if you use the standard 50 gallons every two days, that is 15 deliveries working out at (wait ...not very good at sums) 66 pesos per delivery. That is an incredible deal. This must be a hyper efficient company to cover water, fuel, labor costs etc etc at about a dollar and a half a pop and still make a profit. Are you sure its not just the local fire tender doing a bit of moonlighting on the side?
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Wow man, this sounds an incredible deal! Can I have the name of the water trucking company? - I must use them myself. Now let me get this right. They will truck in an entire months supply for 1T pesos? How many deliveries will they make or is this unlimited? Can't be just 1 as it would take a fucking big truck and where would you put all that water? So if you use the standard 50 gallons every two days, that is 15 deliveries working out at (wait ...not very good at sums) 66 pesos per delivery. That is an incredible deal. This must be a hyper efficient company to cover water, fuel, labor costs etc etc at about a dollar and a half a pop and still make a profit. Are you sure its not just the local fire tender doing a bit of moonlighting on the side?[/QUOTE]
Unsure about the amount of deliveries mate, my temp lady provided me with the bill. I'm going to PI this january and will give you the info when i get it from my part time lady. We are not talking about like sparklet water truck with bottle wter right? The water truck is huge and pumps water into all the houses in the area. It seems to be 1/3 of what you are paying. I assume that your water habits are more western usage than typical asian. Keep in mind I'm not exactly how much water people use. I don't keep track of those matters. Anyways will pm you with info in late january, hope it helps yo umate. If you paying that much for water, you may want to drill. I'm sure you may be able to get ground water if you live in the sticks tropics
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The fun is in the training!
[QUOTE=Pimpster]I know for many its a crown jewel to get to pop some girls cherry, a lot of mongers from Asia, pay huge sums of money in order to do that. I don't know if any pro girl really has a real cherry. I would assume that cherry girls aren't really good in bed because of lack of experience. I have always shy away from cherry girls in the past, because most are naive and are expecting true love with bf. Recently, I've met several DIA girls that are cherry girls while we don't talk about sleeping together etc.. there is an assumption there. Just wondering who the rest of you more experience members feel about this subject? I personally have always felt that cherry girls should be left to those who have deep emotional affection for them or pretend to and are willing to invest time after the fact so she doesn't feel that she is only being used for sex.[/QUOTE]
Pimpster,
I personally love to be the first for a cherry girl. Not that I have had that experience so many times, but I have had it. The fun is in teaching them how to perform the acts that you love, and then watching them come up with ideas of things to try as well. A lot of times, I have learned a thing or two from the things she wants to try. Some things don't work good, but it's damned fun to try!
HW
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]Pimpster,
I personally love to be the first for a cherry girl. Not that I have had that experience so many times, but I have had it. The fun is in teaching them how to perform the acts that you love, and then watching them come up with ideas of things to try as well. A lot of times, I have learned a thing or two from the things she wants to try. Some things don't work good, but it's damned fun to try!
HW[/QUOTE]
Harry,
Do you promise them to be their bf and all that ? Is it just pop it and leave? It just seems a bit cruel to me to pop it and burst their bubble of saving it for their prince. I'm not juding you here, I'm just really envious because there are a few girls i ve met in the past and on dia that are pure virgins and I wold lvoe to pop, but I want all the drama and sh*t afterward. i would love to hear your stories of how you handle from start to end of that relationship and how you let the girls down etc...
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There is always drama
[QUOTE=Pimpster]Harry,
Do you promise them to be their bf and all that ? Is it just pop it and leave? It just seems a bit cruel to me to pop it and burst their bubble of saving it for their prince. I'm not juding you here, I'm just really envious because there are a few girls i ve met in the past and on dia that are pure virgins and I wold lvoe to pop, but I want all the drama and sh*t afterward. i would love to hear your stories of how you handle from start to end of that relationship and how you let the girls down etc...[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately Pimpster, I have never had one that did not involve an extreme amount of drama. I hate it when they find my phone number, e-mail, or other means of communication, and then won't leave me alone. Every Filipina I've been with, even the bar girls, feeds me the line that she is in love with me and that there is no other guy that could make her feel the way I do. Honestly, I don't have a real good come back line for that. I just tell them that I am not interested in a long term relationship with anyone, and that I will be seeing (and obviously fucking) other girls. If they are OK with that, and still want to keep in touch (over the phone and physically), then I go with that. My biggest problem is trying to keep myself from developing any feelings for these girls. But I have to remind myself that even if they don't start out playing the money game, there are plenty of influences around telling them to get as much out of me while fucking others when I'm not around. I have had a couple of long term relationships with Filipinas. Each of them started out real nice, with the girl promising to love me and take care of all my needs for the rest of my life. I guess I wasn't far enough out of the marriage mindset when I entered into those relationships. But now that I have experienced the Philippines for myself, and read the advice of board members here, I think I could be very happy as a single man in the Philippines. Now all I need is to find work that will allow me to live there and have enough money to pay the bills and monger as much as I want.
HW
Mind you, I don't have as much experience with this as some of the other members here. I just thought I would thow out my opinion on the topic.
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[QUOTE=Pimpster]I know for many its a crown jewel to get to pop some girls cherry, a lot of mongers from Asia, pay huge sums of money in order to do that. I don't know if any pro girl really has a real cherry. I would assume that cherry girls aren't really good in bed because of lack of experience. I have always shy away from cherry girls in the past, because most are naive and are expecting true love with bf. Recently, I've met several DIA girls that are cherry girls while we don't talk about sleeping together etc.. there is an assumption there. Just wondering who the rest of you more experience members feel about this subject? I personally have always felt that cherry girls should be left to those who have deep emotional affection for them or pretend to and are willing to invest time after the fact so she doesn't feel that she is only being used for sex.[/QUOTE]
When I was in Makati a couple of years ago, I was offered a very pretty 18 year old virgin for 50,000 pesos. I didn't actually see her, only her photos. I passed, not my style or my budget, but I heard a couple of weeks later that some rich American staying at the Makati Shangri-La took her virginity and now the girl was being offered for 5,000 pesos for LT. Still not my budget. I heard that the Koreans and the Japanese go for these virgins too. So yes, that action is out there. I would think that if one could afford it, it would be a good way to get a virgin without the drama. But alas! most of us are on budgets so those who like virgins will have to take the drama that comes with them.
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Virgins
A few years back, when I lived in Manila I had a chat friend, who I then met, then took to movies, and finally to a motel. I hadnt realised, as she was 22 that she was a virgin. Anyways in the motel found out that she was, after we started kissing etc. She then said she wanted to learn more. Had lots of fun teaching how to give BJ, being first person to eat her etc.
I knew she had some crush on me. She was 22 and I was more than double her age. But I treated her well and gave her attention. Thats the key to success in Phils. Anyways, on another trip she told me that it was time for us to "do it". And I said no. This totally confused her. I just wanted her to be sure she wanted to give it up to horny guy like me who was dating quite a few others at the time.
Anyways next trip to the motel she asked if I would "take it", and this time I duly obliged. We still chat. (shes living in Scotland in a loveless marraige with some guy) and she is still overwhelemed that I actually refused her when she offered me, but states she loved me so much for doing that.
As for me, I just thought it made sense, as I wanted it to be a clear eyed call, not a spur of moment call when she was hot and dripping.
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Cultural Observations Of A Asian Kind
[QUOTE=Piper1]Unless I read you wrong, I think you're agreeing with me.
No matter. I'm not black, so I can only go by what my black friends tell me, and what Filipinas say (and do).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Wonder if your findings are location specific to Dubai, Daddy? My anecdotal evidence taken from years spent living in Hong Kong contradicts your observations. There is an large Filipina ex-pat community working there as Maids and Nannies, who are, if anything, easier to date than if in the Philippines. Guess because they are lonely for guys, and there are comparatively few Filipino's working there. Central on a Sunday, was atwitter with thousands of Pinays on their day off, and it was a rare event for me to go there and not leave with a Filipina on my arm. Had a mate who played a mean guitar and all we had to do was sit in Chater or Cenotaph Gardens, strum a few tunes, and we were surrounded by young Pinays, like magic or the fucking pied piper, or something. If that failed, it was to the Neptune Disco, in Wanchai, which is a bit like the LA Cafe but with more amateurs and a sure fire pick-up joint. Ahhh ...happy days :).[/QUOTE]
Pipe, GH you guys are WHITE guys. In Asia it is an embarrassment for a local to be seen with a black man it’s that simple. I have been hanging around Asia for the last 5 years. An older white gentleman will always beat out a black guy no matter if he has the intelligence of Barack, the looks of Will Smith and the pockets of Warbucks :D
I get flirted with by poorest, poor girls in the country or the not so pretty ones hell that even happened in the Japan but when you go after the pretty or the wealthy you see the discrimination rear its head.
I remember in EDSA walking into a bar I might as well had been invisible. The looks on their faces of disdain was incredible. It was closing time and most of walked right past not even interested in a bar fine for the night.
Then I get PMs All time from brothers who love Asian women but are frustrated by the bullshit. I tell them just keep your head up due to the sheer number of girls you will always find something'
The general consensus as one rapper said they will dress like us listen to our music but they don’t want be or see us….
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Pipe, GH you guys are WHITE guys. In Asia it is an embarrassment for a local to be seen with a black man it’s that simple. I have been hanging around Asia for the last 5 years. An older white gentleman will always beat out a black guy no matter if he has the intelligence of Barack, the looks of Will Smith and the pockets of Warbucks :D[/QUOTE]
DW,
I have been living in and out of Korea over the past 21 years. I saw the same thing here when I first came here. Us "white guys" were the only ones normally seen with a pretty little Korean hanging on them. Most of the black guys I knew at that time didn't care. The general opinion I heard, was that the Asian women did not have the proper dimensions like a black woman had. Because of this, those guys only wanted the ones that obviously had breast implants (that wasn't many due to the cost.
These days, however, the young Korean women are so into the hip hop scene, that a white guy (young or old) has a hard time getting their interest. There are a lot of Filipinas here, working the bars and other jobs the Koreans feel are "low level." These girls don't seem to care about the skin color, or where a guy came from. The big concern is will he buy them lots of "lady drinks" at US $10+ or not, and will he pay a bar fine that is at least US $250. (That doesn't include the tip the expect.)
Just as things have changed in Korea, I think they will also change in the rest of Asia, eventually. The only problem, is that along with this change in attitude, came the anti-prostituion laws and enforcement. Korea used to be a great mongering location. It's far from that now.
HW
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Camp Casey
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]DW,
I have been living in and out of Korea over the past 21 years. I saw the same thing here when I first came here. Us "white guys" were the only ones normally seen with a pretty little Korean hanging on them. Most of the black guys I knew at that time didn't care. The general opinion I heard, was that the Asian women did not have the proper dimensions like a black woman had. Because of this, those guys only wanted the ones that obviously had breast implants (that wasn't many due to the cost.
These days, however, the young Korean women are so into the hip hop scene, that a white guy (young or old) has a hard time getting their interest. There are a lot of Filipinas here, working the bars and other jobs the Koreans feel are "low level." These girls don't seem to care about the skin color, or where a guy came from. The big concern is will he buy them lots of "lady drinks" at US $10+ or not, and will he pay a bar fine that is at least US $250. (That doesn't include the tip the expect.)
Just as things have changed in Korea, I think they will also change in the rest of Asia, eventually. The only problem, is that along with this change in attitude, came the anti-prostituion laws and enforcement. Korea used to be a great mongering location. It's far from that now.
HW[/QUOTE]
I lived in Korea for one year. TDC Camp Casey...
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Out in the Ville
Dw,
I was out in the ville last night (sat). My two black brothers basically forced me out due to the shit that happened in BKK. Man, the korean chicks were all over these guys. I guess we ran into a birthday party or something because everyone was wearing hats. Now understand, these dudes are not wearing the "I'm a wanna be thug" uniform. Anyway, on the dance floor, they always got attention. One dude took home a russian, and the other a juicy. I myself, just went home. Still recovering from BKK.
Taking it Easy?
Carmex
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What Is Thug Dress?
[QUOTE=Carmex]Dw,
I was out in the ville last night (sat). My two black brothers basically forced me out due to the shit that happened in BKK. Man, the korean chicks were all over these guys. I guess we ran into a birthday party or something because everyone was wearing hats. Now understand, these dudes are not wearing the "I'm a wanna be thug" uniform. Anyway, on the dance floor, they always got attention. One dude took home a russian, and the other a juicy. I myself, just went home. Still recovering from BKK.
Taking it Easy?
Carmex[/QUOTE]
Mongers Dress Code:
Most of time I am wearing $200 Armani T-Shirts and $300 jeans like when you met me. I don't know any thugs who dress this way that's expensive thugging :D Second thing is sometime I wear collard Lacoste like business casual last I had that on in Bangkok some European girls laughed a while.
Are you confusing hip hop clothes with thug clothes and how does a thug dress?
The Girls That Like Brothas:
The poor, the ugly the bar type....I was in Burgos last night girls were all over me too. They will jump on anyone with money Pogo stick. These are not the type that I am discussing.
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Thug uniform
I guess I am confused as we have different definitions of the term. The "I wanna be a thug" line came from my two buddies. Both my guys were dressed nice, button down shirts and nice pants, custom made shoes, etc. I however, and still stuck in Hawaii mode so I only have shorts and t-shirts LOL. The Korean chicks still love the brothers though, but not the ones dressed in Hip Hop style. Which is weird because they dress like that, and only love hip hop music. Oh so complicated for a simple guy like me. Still had a nice double up with a pair of sisters last night though, so I could be getting back on track. Ended up pulling my groin though, Ouch!
Still taking it easy,
Carmex
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Mongers Dress Code:
Most of time I am wearing $200 Armani T-Shirts and $300 jeans like when you met me. I don't know any thugs who dress this way that's expensive thugging :D Second thing is sometime I wear collard Lacoste like business casual last I had that on in Bangkok some European girls laughed a while.
Are you confusing hip hop clothes with thug clothes and how does a thug dress?
The Girls That Like Brothas:
The poor, the ugly the bar type....I was in Burgos last night girls were all over me too. They will jump on anyone with money Pogo stick. These are not the type that I am discussing.[/QUOTE]
Well mate, depends if you start to show some bling on your wrist and around your neck. If you wear your clothes overly baggy, it becomes a thug thing if if you wear lacoste.
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Half You Guys Don't Know What A Thug Is...Lets Quit The Stereotyping
[quote=pimpster]well mate, depends if you start to show some bling on your wrist and around your neck. if you wear your clothes overly baggy, it becomes a thug thing if if you wear lacoste.[/quote]
i sit back watch people who grew up in predominately rich areas associate rappers on tv with and how they dress as being thug wear. i didn't know thugs had a dress code. i grew up in what is now the most violent city in america penniless. i seen a lot of real thugs in my life and they had no certain way how they dressed. i know one thing they sure as hell wasn't wearing armani or lacoste baggy or snug fit. they sure hell was not wearing a one carat diamond earring or diamond watch or platinum necklace as i do.
ok so a 30-40 single white guy with tight pants and tight shirts is wearing **** wear? come on man lets not be silly. a guy wears baggy clothes now he is wearing thug wear. i am sorry but i anit buying it. that shit you saying is like bush for third term i am not even trying it.
i am not a fan of tight pants sticking up my ass. nor do i let my pants "sag" showing my underwear but i wear my pants baggy. guys cut the bullshit...i am 20s something year old black guy from the quote and quote "hood" i am not going to dress like mr. rodgers...
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i'm willing to bet that everyone here knows what a thug is.
it's kind of a stereotype that someone from the "hood" thinks that white boys can't possibly understand the hood. hey, i watched the movie 8 mile.
x
[quote=daddy warbucks 1]i sit back watch people who grew up in predominately rich areas associate rappers on tv with and how they dress as being thug wear. i didn't know thugs had a dress code. i grew up in what is now the most violent city in america penniless. i seen a lot of real thugs in my life and they had no certain way how they dressed. i know one thing they sure as hell wasn't wearing armani or lacoste baggy or snug fit. they sure hell was not wearing a one carat diamond earring or diamond watch or platinum necklace as i do.
ok so a 30-40 single white guy with tight pants and tight shirts is wearing **** wear? come on man lets not be silly. a guy wears baggy clothes now he is wearing thug wear. i am sorry but i anit buying that it. that shit you saying is like bush for third term i am not even trying it.
i am not a fan of tight pants sticking up my ass. nor do i let my pants "sag" showing my underwear but i wear my pants baggy. guys cut the bullshit...i am 20s something year old black guy from the quote and quote "hood" i am not going to dress like mr. rodgers...[/quote]
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I Don't Think You Do....
[QUOTE=X Man]I'm willing to bet that everyone here knows what a thug is.
It's kind of a stereotype that someone from the "hood" thinks that white boys can't possibly understand the hood. Hey, I watched the movie 8 mile.
X[/QUOTE]
X did you just read what this guy wrote. A guy wears jewelry and baggy clothes....all of a sudden it becomes thug wear. Apparently this guy doesn't get it? Is this the Filipinas advice thread or kick down a fellow monger because the way he dresses thread. After some of the expat guys I see walking around Manila malls even my girlfriend makes jokes how bad and out of shape they look. We certainly don't want to play that game.
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my 2 euroscents
Hi to all,
just reading some posts here and like to comment on some:
Yfever, if you like or love the worman you should go for it. If you have 2nd thoughts which shows me you have allready (while would you ask to some monger to check if the bills are correct?) you should listen to some guys here and their experiences and be prepared to support the whole familysuckers.
I date also a girl from the barscene in Angeles city and I made it clear when she stopped working I will give her some money if we meet up on the weekend, but thats it. I also gave her some gifts, dvd player, cp, clothes,parfume, etc. Point is, she is a stunner and once she is on stage in atlantis she got lasered within a minute and sit beside my korean or asian monger friends.
I live on site, so actually Im better off if drama knocks on my door and also if some girl will hurt you, cause the next one is just a corner away.
Brings me to the next topic which came up again. Some months ago I ask around , why the hell getting married when livin in the Philippines? Obviously still a big topic on this thread.
I think if you really in love you will go for the marriage thing. Means, if you really meet the one and only. As of now , I havent. Im happy to meet new girls as well stay in contacts with my present ones. I live ordenary life, work and after work have a beer with my friends, or red whine (I have to lose wheight) On the weekends I have fun, either angeles city or Subic if I take a girl there. Its the quickest hideaway if you live in Manila. IM also thinking now to fly to Cebu, since so many hot chicks over there. Or maybe get one to Manila, if she is special.
Honestly fellow mongers, Im not sure about the others expat living in the Philippines but if you live here you like to screw chicks from offices, semi pros, students etc. Getting somebody from a bar, well, evrybody can do it and Im getting more and more tired of that. BUT, if she is hot, ok I will get her, hehehe..
So, my advise, safe money and live in the Philippines and enjoy. From what I read and heard I would never bring back a pinay to my country. To many things can happen and Im not interested to support the whole family.
Actually Im on DIa chatting with a superhot chick now, she has a car, 24, teacher, to good to be true LOL. Not sure if its all true. I dont look like james bond, except we have the same age and the same cellphone, but who knows whats going on in a woman head(more money?more clothes?bigger house? hahaha). So I just wait and see what will happen. I will also try some other places in Manila for mongering. Will report when I try them out, heard they more for nontourists. My singaporean coworkers allways wanted me to join him. Singaporean guys are also chosy little bastards , so I will go with him thes days and write a small report about this here in terms of looks, atmosphere, scenery, safetyconcerns and last not least prices.
Ok, enough said here. Except waterbills. I rent out a 165square meter condo and share with my buddy. Evrybody has his own prvt rooms and bathrooms, so no big deal. Our waterbill for 3 persons is round about 300p a month, more or less and yes I know it, cause I see the bill and have pay for it.
Nice day to all!
Blink
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Getting Tired Of Hookers Also/Family Issues...
[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,Honestly fellow mongers, Im not sure about the others expat living in the Philippines but if you live here you like to screw chicks from offices, semi pros, students etc. Getting somebody from a bar, well, evrybody can do it and Im getting more and more tired of that. BUT, if she is hot, ok I will get her, hehehe..
Nice day to all!
Blink[/QUOTE]
I second the notion Blink. I have been mongering P4P strictly for last 3 1/2 years. I am getting tired of it. Been finding myself chasing square tail last few months. Only that's extremely hard when you in a LTR :D
[QUOTE=Blink157]So, my advise, safe money and live in the Philippines and enjoy. From what I read and heard I would never bring back a pinay to my country. To many things can happen and Im not interested to support the whole family.Blink[/QUOTE]
Family Issues:
I dated a Filipina in Japan for long time. She was living with her mother when I met her. Her mother had pulled her out of college in PI and brought her to Japan to work in those Hostess bars claiming she couldn't afford it anymore. The same job her mother had. Now her mother was old and working in a cosmetic factory. I tried to tell her how her mother had basically ruined her life by doing this. She kept saying no it was her decision etc...denial of the worse kind.
I got her an apartment in a nice area of Saitama told her she didn't have to work and Warbucks would fit the bill. Everything was cool for a couple of months then her mother started the ole I am sick I need to move in with you. I really disliked this woman. Keep in mind the lady maybe was sick but she was not that old she was in her 40s. I am like leave your daughter alone you have done enough.
That was the last straw for me I had to bail....
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[quote=daddy warbucks 1]i sit back watch people who grew up in predominately rich areas associate rappers on tv with and how they dress as being thug wear. i didn't know thugs had a dress code. i grew up in what is now the most violent city in america penniless. i seen a lot of real thugs in my life and they had no certain way how they dressed. i know one thing they sure as hell wasn't wearing armani or lacoste baggy or snug fit. they sure hell was not wearing a one carat diamond earring or diamond watch or platinum necklace as i do.
ok so a 30-40 single white guy with tight pants and tight shirts is wearing **** wear? come on man lets not be silly. a guy wears baggy clothes now he is wearing thug wear. i am sorry but i anit buying it. that shit you saying is like bush for third term i am not even trying it.
i am not a fan of tight pants sticking up my ass. nor do i let my pants "sag" showing my underwear but i wear my pants baggy. guys cut the bullshit...i am 20s something year old black guy from the quote and quote "hood" i am not going to dress like mr. rodgers...[/quote]
quite true i've been to the hood a few times to pick up some street action, but when the thugs make it big, think what they where. we ware not talking old school rappers like snoop dog, think 50cent. keep in mind you are in asia, so the associate overly baggy clothing with bling and construction boots as gangster.
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[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]I'm in the same boat as you are YM! Married to, but separated (wishing it was legally) from, a Korean. I've been trying to get her to do a separation agreement since I moved out in 2005, so I can avoid all the expenses of a full blown fight in court. The problem is the crazy b*tch won't make up her mind about things, and put it on paper. She keeps e-mailing to say she wants to do it the quick and easy way, but refuses to go to the FREE legal service on the military base!
I don't have a lot to loose. We are joint owners of a house in Texas. But that is really the only thing of value that we have. I just don't want to be ordered to be paying her half (or more) of my paycheck. However, I am getting more and more irritated with the idea that she won't cooperate on the separation agreement/uncontested divorce idea. I'm ready to contact the lawyers and just file and accept what happens.
Anyone know a good lawyer in Texas (or a good hit man in Korea)?[/QUOTE]I'm a Texas lawyer, and I do mostly family law. I highly recommend that you sign NOTHING until you have consulted with an experienced family lawyer.
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Not Asians...You
[quote=pimpster]quite true i've been to the hood a few times to pick up some street action, but when the thugs make it big, think what they where. we ware not talking old school rappers like snoop dog, think 50cent. keep in mind you are in asia, so the associate overly baggy clothing with bling and construction boots as gangster.[/quote]
in what asian country do they associate baggy clothes with gangsters. in japan they loved it. they associated tattoos with the yakuza real gangsters. in the philippines also they associate tattoos with criminal activity but not baggy clothes.
you sir are the person who associates baggy clothes with thugs. the person who started this whole thug debate... carmex had a friend in thailand who as protocal anally raped bar girls... he was wearing a $20 hawaiian shirt. is that not thug behavior?
pimpster won't you post some reports and photos and stop harassing senior members over their wardrobe.
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[quote=daddy warbucks 1] the person who started this whole thug debate... carmex had a friend in thailand who as protocal anally raped bar girls... he was wearing a $20 hawaiian shirt. is that not thug behavior.[/quote]hmmm, for the record, it was an $120 silk hawaiian shirt thank you, and that guy is no longer an acquaintance of mine. it was not me that started the debate, it was you. i was paraphrasing what my friends had said to me; and the quote was, "wanna be thugs". meaning (i assume) young kids with jobs who are trying to look tough in the ville. the statement was from them, not me. you sir, are the one who started this.
i have absolutely no idea what "thug" behavior/clothing/ideas/look is. my point was that my two friends, who are black and were not dressed as the guys they described as "wanna be thugs" got hit on by korean girls in the ville, and scored. they both have been to the pi with me three times, and laugh at the thought that "black guys can't score in the pi" or whatever comments you have made about that.
we will be down in ac for new years, so if you want to meet them come on down.
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my story..
Good day to all,
freezing my feet here in Europe, hopefully I get back in two weeks to the sunny Philippines.
Reading the forum here about "family issues". That is one fact why I dont get married in the Philippines, cause I dont want to spend my hard earned money (starting work around 9.30am) to some familysuckers who cant get their lazy ass up.
Before I will comit to this big step, I have to know the girl, as well as her family. Thats why Im a big curious about guys who know their "GF´s" a couple of days (s0me just a couple of hours) and ready to marry them.
Maybe some things to discuss here.
DW, how did it end when you cut your GF mom lose? I really like to know, because family ties is a big problem here in the Philippines.
Good day to all
Blink
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Mother Deep Sixed...
[QUOTE=Blink157]DW, how did it end when you cut your GF mom lose? I really like to know, because family ties is a big problem here in the Philippines.
Good day to all
Blink[/QUOTE]
Man I just told her it was not working for me. I told her her mother fucked up her own life and now she was going to fuck up hers more then what she already did. She hated to do it but she deep sixed the mother...
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Family Issues:
I dated a Filipina in Japan for long time. She was living with her mother when I met her. Her mother had pulled her out of college in PI and brought her to Japan to work in those Hostess bars claiming she couldn't afford it anymore. The same job her mother had. Now her mother was old and working in a cosmetic factory. I tried to tell her how her mother had basically ruined her life by doing this. She kept saying no it was her decision etc...denial of the worse kind ...[/QUOTE]
Not sure I really buy your logic at face value. A 'college education' in the PI doesn't say much, and unless you go to a good nursing school, won't get you very far, very fast either.
But certainly in Japan she can make relatively lots of money fast if she meets the right sucker. Apparently it panned out for her jus' like momma said. :-))
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Fucking With Other Members For No Reason At All
[QUOTE=Houziwang]Not sure I really buy your logic at face value. A 'college education' in the PI doesn't say much, and unless you go to a good nursing school, won't get you very far, very fast either.
But certainly in Japan she can make relatively lots of money fast if she meets the right sucker. Apparently it panned out for her jus' like momma said. :)[/QUOTE]
Your idiot if you think coming to Japan and sitting with old ass Japanese men every night is better then getting an college education. What happens when she gets old as per-say what happened to her mother the lady was a pitiful sight bruh. I know plenty of people who are working in PI who got an PI education and though they are not living a life of luxury but they are getting by.
Now you implying because I met a lady enjoyed her company and didn't want to see her in those clubs I am a sucker? I love when people chim in with their supreme knowledge. I knew this women for over two years before I got involved with her. I wasn't one of those guys who come overseas and fall in love and talk about marriage after a couple of hours bruh...
Once again second time I had to say this today. Post some reports or some photos instead of fucking with other members...
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Your idiot if you think coming to Japan and sitting with old ass Japanese men every night is better then getting an college education. What happens when she gets old as per-say what happened to her mother the lady was a pitiful sight bruh. I know plenty of people who are working in PI who got an PI education and though they are not living a life of luxury but they are getting by.
Now you implying because I met a lady enjoyed her company and didn't want to see her in those clubs I am a sucker? I love when people chim in with their supreme knowledge. I knew this women for over two years before I got involved with her. I wasn't one of those guys who come overseas and fall in love and talk about marriage after a couple of hours bruh...
Once again second time I had to say this today. Post some reports or some photos instead of fucking with other members...[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean to pick a fight ... this is my last word on the topic.
My point was, I've been to the clubs in Japan, and have known my share of Filipinas. Hands down, a girls got a better chance of 'movin' on up' by assiduously plying her wares in Japan than spinning her wheels in most Phil 'colleges.' How you think her mother looks is completely irrelevant.
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[quote=daddy warbucks 1]in what asian country do they associate baggy clothes with gangsters. in japan they loved it. they associated tattoos with the yakuza real gangsters. in the philippines also they associate tattoos with criminal activity but not baggy clothes.
you sir are the person who associates baggy clothes with thugs. the person who started this whole thug debate... carmex had a friend in thailand who as protocal anally raped bar girls... he was wearing a $20 hawaiian shirt. is that not thug behavior?
pimpster won't you post some reports and photos and stop harassing senior members over their wardrobe.[/quote]
ahemmm did you actually read my entire post or just decide to spew at the mouth, because you got up on the wrong side of the bed. what asian countries try japan its an entire hip hop culture, just in case you didn't know that being so senior and all. i was merely pointing out that if the so call brothers were wearing baggy clothes clothes and bling on themselves they wouldn't be looked the same as say obama in a suit. how the f did that become harassment? you sir no very little about hip hop culture its underground culture. as for my reports, i feel no need to write so call so call penthouse letters of imaginary letters about how this 18 year old girl was so into me even though i m old , fat, anal and have a fulll set of dentures.is really into me and i rocked her world like no other for that whole minute.
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Non P4p Filiinas
bacolod turned out to be a pleasant surprise. i spent little time there, but on the first night just hopped into a cab and asked the driver to take me to a bar. i was not looking for company, just to have some fun and do a bit if research for you guys. i was not hoping for much, especially when the driver said he would take me to the bacolod casino. but when you get there, boy, there is so much for such a back water town.
in front of the casino and to the left (when facing it) begins a good sized square with lots of bars and cafes. in the center seem to be cafes for eating and hanging out. along the perimeter is girlie bar after girlie bar. sort of a burgos of visayas (is this still visayas? i think they speak a different dialect here). there must be about 15 bars. some are just open bars with a few girls sitting inside waiting, some are karaoke. many have a show with one girl dancing and lots waiting to entertain customers.
in the bars with dancing, of course several girls will come sit with you to chat, cuddle and eventually ask you to buy a drink. my drinks were generally p90 for two bottles of beer; her’s were p250. but there was not a lot of pressure to buy. it was so quiet that they seemed happy just to have me there. for the most part the dancing girls are uninspiring but the real action is at my table.
in the first bar i entered, probably the first as you walk from the casino, several girls out front stopped me to chat, and then dragged me in. it was quite bright inside as opposed to some bars that are so dark that you really can’t see the girls. i focused on one, but they all were acceptably attractive and sweet. she was wearing a tube top and skirt. i ordered my beer and she asked me to buy her a drink. i asked about the price, then declined as i was not sure yet that i would stay, or stay with her. after another minute or two of cuddling, she asked if i wanted to play with her pussy. talk about direct. she slipped up her skirt and pulled open her...
feb 07
avoid the go-go/strip bars as their prices are driven outrageously by the japanese/korean tourists and local sugar barons. they are concentrated mostly in the goldenfields commercial complex, the area where the casino filipino is located. i stayed at the new days hotel there, which at p980 (double occupation) a night is the biggest bang for your buck in the area. definitely girl-friendly. (see attachment)...
now back to the bars, the biggest i entered, the "wild cat" had ladies drinks amounting to p390, vip "short time" rooms for p3000 and bar fine at p4500. insane considering it is even higher than manila prices. i am a local so i don't see this as a special "foreigner" price. also, i noticed most of the girls here came from outside bacolod - bohol, dumaguete and cebu - and sleep in the bars so don't expect some "freelance" action after their work. dangerously, some girls admitted to me being ****, and laying a girl below 18 is punishable by death in philippine law. so take caution! avoid also the streetwalkers in the goldenfields area - they will haggle with you for a low price but not much action when she comes to your room, will make up a lot of excuses - from menstruation to crying baby at home.
if you are looking for real gfe action, i suggest you approach your hotel boy or taxi driver. they pimp student or housewife "part timers". prices range from p1000-p2000 and they come to your room. the only drawback is that you can only get them before 5pm... probably because of dorm curfew or suspecting husband... but its worth it! if you have fun, get their cellphone numbers and arrange a second meeting directly for a more flexible time. if you are in bacolod, call jeffrey... 0916-314-6922, he's actually a taxi driver but will show you a good time... honest and he speaks very good english since he's used to touring foreigners.
bacolod turned out to be a pleasant surprise. i spent little time there, but on the first night just hopped into a cab and asked the driver to take me to a bar. i was not looking for company, just to have some fun and do a bit if research for you guys. i was not hoping for much, especially when the driver said he would take me to the bacolod casino. but when you get there, boy, there is so much for such a back water town.
in front of the casino and to the left (when facing it) begins a good sized square with lots of bars and cafes. in the center seem to be cafes for eating and hanging out. along the perimeter is girlie bar after girlie bar. sort of a burgos of visayas (is this still visayas? i think they speak a different dialect here). there must be about 15 bars. some are just open bars with a few girls sitting inside waiting, some are karaoke. many have a show with one girl dancing and lots waiting to entertain customers.
in the bars with dancing, of course several girls will come sit with you to chat, cuddle and eventually ask you to buy a drink. my drinks were generally p90 for two bottles of beer; her’s were p250. but there was not a lot of pressure to buy. it was so quiet that they seemed happy just to have me there. for the most part the dancing girls are uninspiring but the real action is at my table.
in the first bar i entered, probably the first as you walk from the casino, several girls out front stopped me to chat, and then dragged me in. it was quite bright inside as opposed to some bars that are so dark that you really can’t see the girls. i focused on one, but they all were acceptably attractive and sweet. she was wearing a tube top and skirt. i ordered my beer and she asked me to buy her a drink. i asked about the price, then declined as i was not sure yet that i would stay, or stay with her. after another minute or two of cuddling, she asked if i wanted to play with her pussy. talk about direct. she slipped up her skirt and pulled open her panty to reveal a very nice, delectably furry, pussy. as i said it was quite bright so i could well inspect, and everyone else could see what we were doing. but how could i resist. she told me that there were no customers today, and she needed to buy rice before going home to her family. i slipped her p100 and checked it out. yes soft, warm, wet. at the same she was rubbing my thigh and "little brother". she asked if i wanted to go upstairs to the private room. it was p1, 200. i declined. by then i was beginning to show my enthusiasm, though the show was quite boring. she asked if she could see my "little brother", and maybe kiss him. thinking it was time to move on, i declined. then she had to dance. her first dance was also rather uninspiring, but for the second she came out essentially nude. she was quite nice looking, and keep in mind that the lights were bright. she was not shy at all.
after the dance she came back to me. she had put on the skirt but not the top or panty. there is something about a cold beer in one hand and soft pussy in the other (like the bars in phnom penh, but that is a different section). it makes it harder to get up and leave. after a few minutes she suggested we go to a private table. what the hell. so we moved from one in the center of this well lit room, to one on the side, still quite well lit. as i was really enjoying her i finally agreed to buy her a drink. within a minute she had my pants open and was inspecting junior, who was now very happy to be let out. i did not let her suck me as i am too cautious to do bbbj, but she kept trying. i am quite sure if we went to the private room there would be no limits. over the next 30 minutes we chatted. she is 28, one child, boyfriend left. nice breasts and tummy for a mom. during that time she continued to stroke mr happy, and had several of the other girls came over to inspect him as well and i enjoyed checking out their bodies too. it was a little weird how uninhibited they all were. finally i decided to move on and check out the other bars.
the next one was a bit more upscale. the girl who sat with me lookedso yummy but turned out to be 18 and seemingly very inexperienced. i bought her a drink and learned about her, then decided she was too young to be interesting for me and moved on.
the next bar was similar to the first, but dark and also few customers. the girl who joined me was a tiny thing. instead of waiting i quickly bought her a drink. as soon as it came she sat on my lap and began rubbing. she had a loose top and no bra, loose shorts and no panty. she was shaved. she was fast. in the space of three minutes i was playing with her pussy and she had my little brother out and happy. after minute i realized that she was trying to slip me inside her, right there in the bar. it was dark enough that others could not see exactly what was going on, i think. well if i was not going to let the first girl suck me bare back, i was not going to fuck this girl in public and without a condom. so i slowed things down. at that point it was her turn to dance. i gave her p100 tip and moved on.
the last bar in the corner of the square was again more upscale and dark, and had many customers. the girls were more beautiful, model types, and their dancing was more sophisticated. they mostly danced in skimpy clothes or underwear, occasionally one of the girls would take off her top. here there were lots of waiters and they regularly asked if they could bring a girl to my table. i could see that many of the customers were with girls, but just drinking and chatting and not so much cuddling. this could get expensive and not result in any satisfaction without taking the girl out, which i assume you could. i was more interested in continuing my research into furry vrs. shaved, and so moved on.
next i walked outside the square onto araneta street. there were several more bars there and i walked into one. same story as the first and third bars, a girl dancing and lots more to keep you company. this girl was very pretty, probably 22 but a bit too professional. she quickly moved on to the bar fine, which she said was p3, 000. i laughed and made a joke of it. i told her that was the tourist price and asked for a discount, but she did not seem interested in playing. it is hard for me to believe that is the real price and i sensed that the two earlier girls would have just walked out with me, or at least come to my hotel after their shifts.
it was late, i had an early start and i was tired, so time to head to bed. but i was left wondering how bacolod could have such a lively night life. who was it that supported it? i don’t know, but if you do, be sure to thank him.
ju;l 08
the recreation area is walking distance from the hotel, right on the main drag. like our friend said, lot of things to do there. i saw they were trying to build an outdoor water park even. if you take a jeepney for a couple minutes in the other direction, it goes to the big mall, the downtown, banks, etc. they don't have the armed guards everywhere like mla. streets are clean, no homeless people lying around. no bad smells, air is very clean. there is a big park in the center of the city where some homeless men live, but even that doesnt look scary. lots of cute girls sitting around with nothing to do all day.
if anyone wants to go there, i can refer my friend gilbert to you. you can chat with him, he can line you up with some real beauties. send me an email.
baguio - scenic, but not like a tropical climate. reminds me of oregon
rizal - very crowded, but not much to look at or trouble to get in to
dasmarinas - crowded, noisy. two guys on a jeepney got aggressive with me. saw lots of kids begging near the mall.
i am trying to go again soon, got some real nice chicas lined up. but my income is like half of last year. very frustrating. good luck everybody
i went to bacolod city last fall, spent five days there. i had arranged ahead of time to meet a local girl, so i did not do any pure mongering. i was not convinced it was so easy to meet girls everywhere, but it really is. however, i would like to suggest you consider the city.
it was about 2300 p to fly in from manila. only couple flights a day each way. they have a very nice hotel called the sugarland just a few minutes from the airport. originally they were charging me 1800 p per day to include two luxury breakfast buffets, but when i inquired about lowering the bill, they eliminated the buffet and room charge came down to 1300p.
there is a small casino just walking distance from the hotel. there is a row of strip bars just right nearby too. i visited the sugar lips 'hubad' (which means undress). for $2.25 us, that paid my admission and also got me two san migs. single lady drinks were only 175p. girls were very polite and not pushy. each took turns doing semi clothed dances to start with, but within one hour they were dancing naked. i did not take a girl out of the bar because there was one who was waiting for me.
i am 46 years old, starting to age but still look little boyish. i felt the love immediately from young filipinas, they treated me like brad pitt. enjoyed fine sex with the one lady. her brother is a sort of important local guy on the night scene. he has since directed me to numerous young 20's girls who are dying to meet me on the next trip. anyone thinking of a different place to hang out, try bacolod, clean, safe, quiet, but lots of pretty girls. lots of them.
just finished a seven day visit to bacolod for masskara festival. the city is quite clean and the streets are wide with little traffic. there are a number of discos in town with the greatest concentration in an area known as goldenfields. barfines are 3,000 and the girl gets half. several of the bars are owned by the same bakla and the girls report he/she/it treats them very poorly. they are not allowed to live off the premises and must pay for the meals provided. they are allowed to go out for a few hours in the afternoon and most are anxious to meet you at that time. i did not accept this option so i don't have a fix on the price.
there are also freelancers available. around the town square there are some who will approach you. price is "what you want". the best scene for me was a couple of clubs. mo2 , in goldenfields, and another on the north end of town called entertainment depot, my personal favorite. there is a robinson's mall and many girls hang out there. twice i used a cab driver to arrange things for me. once we went to the goldenfields area and once to a little casa. in both cases the asking price was 1,500 but was quickly reduced to the offered 1,000. as with most pay first scenarios the girls had little incentive to provide the desired service or stay for long time, in fact both were runners after an hour or two.
my best experience was with a girl i met at the festival. all of them will watch you and they are very approacable. just put on your best smile and attitude and have a go at them. bacolod is called the "city of smiles" and i can see why. the festival was a blast but seven days is too long. the last three days are the time to come. i would highly recommend this city during masskara festival.
i visited the sugar lips 'hubad' (which means undress). for $2.25 us, that paid my admission and also got me two san migs. single lady drinks were only 175p. girls were very polite and not pushy. each took turns doing semi clothed dances to start with, but within one hour they were dancing naked. i did not take a girl out of the bar because there was one who was waiting for me.
there are also freelancers available. around the town square there are some who will approach you. price is "what you want". the best scene for me was a couple of clubs. mo2 , in goldenfields, and another on the north end of town called entertainment depot, my personal favorite. there is a robinson's mall and many girls hang out there. twice i used a cab driver to arrange things for me. once we went to the goldenfields area and once to a little casa. in both cases the asking price was 1,500 but was quickly reduced to the offered 1,000. as with most pay first scenarios the girls had little incentive to provide the desired service or stay for long time, in fact both were runners after an hour or two.
ex pinoy
try “club north” in northern portion of bacolod city (in front of ayala north point, talisay) — they say the prettiest chics in bacolod city can be found here — or you may try other popular hangouts like mo2 bar in golden fields commercial complex or at the depot near robinson’s place.
also visit small bars frequented by coeds from middle class colleges near the riverside medical center.
“there are lots of pretty girls down here bro,” says pinoy spy spikespeigel
mike_ekim adds that goldenfields commercial center, where the casino filipino hotel in bacolod city is located, is also a hot spot.
as a filipina living in bacolod, i would suggest going to goldenfields or the public plaza after 6pm. you can find what you are looking for there.
you can expect women to be 'cleaner' than the ones in mla/ac.
oh and bacolod women are known for being 'malambing' and so very willing to please. just be careful not to be conned into marriage.
bacolod activities
visit mambukal hot springs
visit the public plaza #58, san juan st after 6 pm
visit goldenfields #87, near magsaysay st
miss b miraflor
miss a therese
miss c grace
miss d jacqueline
miss e tetcha
miss g mavis mae
miss f margie
miss h maria fe
miss j mary ann
miss i juliet f
well, sometimes the ball falls my way, sometimes not. i had started this adventure with twin objectives of finding my ideal woman, while getting in lots of jig-a-jig. these are often conflicting objectives. and i had adopted the mass contacts approach, that is, lots of names and numbers at each of my ports of call, with key targets supported by multiple backups.
as has been the case before, there is many a slip between the lip and the lip.
i had thought of spending time in both bacolod and cagayan de oro, but eventually decided on bacolod only, because of the preponderance of positive leads.
first up was miss b from my previous adventure in cebu. i had booked her in for four days, with the expectation that i could extend her time if things went well. she was a confirmed virgin, but i had successfully undermined her arguments for retaining her virginity. so she had said that she was going to do away with it when we got together. this was very much the case, but only partly, and actually made the situation worse. when we went to bed, she indeed was ready to do away with it. but her **** was so small, and so tight, that it was very difficult to get inside her, and it hurt. because it hurt, she tightened up next time, and things went on very slowly. in the end, she was no longer a virgin, has fallen desperately in love with the man that took her hymen, but i am not getting my jollies in return. she has shown preparedness to blow, but she is very conservative, and it is tokenist only. what a mess.
after four days, i sent her home, as originally planned. she flew out early in the morning, and i had scheduled a luncheon with miss a, who looked ideal in her profile. however the reality was a woman with a really twisted mind, and with a gear or two missing. while we were talking and eating, she invited 4 of her friends to join us. i was bloody pissed with this, and made no offer to buy them lunch, or even drinks. so we talked en mass for a while till they took the hint and left. and not long after, i bailed out to.
miss c was booked for the evening, a simple dinner in the hotel, with the expectation of a romp in the pit. we had chatted about our options and preferences in coupling, so my expectations were high. however, as the time got close, i texted her to confirm that she would front on time. however, her mobile was with her sister, who rushed off to find her sister. the two of them turned up a bit late, but pretty much on time philippines time. we started with a nice dinner, simple, and things went well. until miss c checked wit me that it was ok for her sister to stay with us overnight. i was a bit askance, and asked how old her sister is. 15. very juicy, voluptuous, willing, but dynamite. i said that she could not stay, because she is ****. they argued that the law is pretty lax, and it would be ok. i could see myself in front of a firing squad, and stood my ground. when the dinner had finished, we went to my room, but i left to door open, and stood close by the door, just to be sure. as the talk went on, they were obviously put out that i was so steadfast in my refusal, even though they offered that she would sleep on the floor.
eventually, miss c said that she would take her sister home, and come back later. but she did not front. strike out night one.
next day was lunch with miss d, a tall, thin woman, 31, teacher, independent. ideal. we were to meet in a mall for lunch, with the expectation that we would get together in the evening for further exploration. however the reality was a short, plump woman with an even fatter friend who was also ugly. we had a civil lunch, although i was really pissed at her deception. she was more than willing, and would be an enthusiastic lay. but i was turned off already, and plump turns me off. so after lunch, i went to their school to have a look, then beat it.
so, a bloody big gap in the program. but miss e had been texting aggressively, so i said ok, we would meet in robinson’s mall, to watch the judging of the miss masskara swimsuit competition. however, as usual, nothing is as it seems. it turns out that the information given to me by the tourist authority was wrong, and the judging was to be at sm mall. too far to change on short notice. anyhow, miss e turned up right on time, with a plump friend, who took off pretty soon after, and left to two of us alone. miss e is tall, thin, intelligent, educated and a teacher making decent money. ideal. but it turns out that she is totally controlled by her parents, and cannot stay out later than 10, and no interest in short time jig-a-jig. bugger. so we parted company, with her interest whetted, but her virginity confirmed.
so i stopped off at the italia restaurant for a very nice italian meal, dropped my stuff at the hotel, and headed out to the goldenfields complex to check out the bars.
due to some erroneous directions, it took me a while to find the right place. a bunch of bars, ktvs, restaurants and comedy shows in a row around the outside of a central group of restaurants. i made a first pass right round the outside to confirm the limits of opportunity. then i started at the first to look in to each place to check for fun options. while i was strolling along the sidewalk, a woman, later miss f, attached herself to me. she looked ok, and was pretty talkative, so i did not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off completely. later, i came to the view that she was on her first experience, and was pretty nervous. after a couple of false starts, i went into a bar called my girl, or similar – a red and black sign over the door. it looked pretty dead, but there were some pretty good looking women there. so i sat down in a corner booth, with miss f close by. a couple of girls came over and chatted for a while. i checked the bar fine, 3,500, and ld for 290. so i declined both, with money for the girl, that would amount to 5,000 or more. but one of them was especially pretty, with a wonderful figure. they eventually drifted away. miss f tried to maintain a conversation, and did pretty well at it. she promised me a good massage if i took her home with me.
as the evening wore on, more customers started coming in at about 10 pm, and the place picked up noticeably. after a while, some of the girls started stripping to naked, and there were some honeys of figures, something to please everyone. as my interest danced, at each number she removed more, till she was bare. very nice indeed.
so when i had had enough, i left, with miss f in tow. she would do, if the price was right. i had asked her before what was her price, but the usual – up to you. this time, i made sure that she understood, and agreed. she asked if 1,000 would be ok. i said yes, surprised at how cheap. she came back to the hotel, we stripped for a shower, and she revealed a real jungle of a bush. i said that if i was going to give her a good licking, the bush would have to go. she was more than agreeable, so we clipped and shaved her to bare pubes, and a very pretty pussy, wide open, turned on, showing pink. when we got started, i figured pretty quickly that this was new to her. and i think she had only ever had basic missionary, no foreplay, because she seemed surprised with herself, and was very responsive. it was a lovely night, snooze, root, snooze, suck, snooze play. we went to breakfast at 9, and she left at 10, promising to return next night, same arrangement. what a lovely way to spend a night.
next morning was get things organised day. a continuous stream of texts, calls. these women obviously spend all day doing nothing, and texting is their entertainment. i set up the next set of meetings, and finalized logistical arrangements.
i had scheduled lunch with miss g, at the local jollibee in sm. she fronted as planned, but as before, the promise was much more than the reality, and i bailed out. so, a casual, relaxing afternoon, just texting, phoning. then miss
f turned up right on time. we had a nice dinner, no hurry, both knowing that we had a good night ahead of us. and so it was, just as passionate and gfe as the previous night. but this time i was leaving early in the morning, so we did not get our relaxed breakfast. i paid her as the night before, and left her with all of the stuff that i had in the room, food, drinks, beers, an electric water heater, towels etc. she was laden and very happy. we parted with a lovely kiss.
so, let’s see how things pan out. next stop, manila.
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for what it is worth, i have spent the last three trips to phils setting up with regular women as friends and lovers.
it took quit a lot of time and effort through cherry blossoms and dia, but now i have four or five regulars.
one works in a regular office job, independent, intelligent, exactly what i am looking for in shape and attitude. about 30.
one is in real estate, very attractive features, smart, self sufficient, headstrong, body a bit soft, but a raging fucker. late 30's, lied about her age on cb, but still good value, works out, exercises, pretty good shape.
one is willowy and tall, unemployed, but seems to have enough money to move around quite a bit. she has had one child, but her body is unmarked. i have give her a little money but not much.
one is tall, slim, very pretty, perfect figure, was a virgin when we met, but is now asking for money to help her and her family. i have said no, not till we live together. i will see how this one pans out.
one is drop dead gorgeous, very tall, slim, intelligent. i have been communicating with her for a couple of years from another association, and she had said that she was finally ready to get rid of her virginity. unfortunately, we only had half a night together, but she was intent on deviginising herself, and i did the deed. she has asked for help to get herself a job, and i have helped with a little money. she is now in regular work, and does not need any more from me. about 24.
one is thai, from a middle class family, financially independent, very loving. about 30. body a bit soft from one child, but a very nice woman. but not much english, so communication is hard work while we are together. a fantastic blow job. needs no money from me.
there are a couple of others in the phils and thailand who want to get into a long term relationship, but i am at my limit.
all are very loving and fun and very satisfying to be with and are cheap to maintain. so it can be done. i am 65, and wearing out, so they are not into me for my looks.
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Non P4p Filiinas
SORRY ABOUT THE BALLS UP WITH MY PREVIOU POST. A CUT AND PASTE PROBLEM, MY FAULT.
For what it is worth, I have spent the last three trips to Phils setting up with regular women as friends and lovers.
It took quit a lot of time and effort through Cherry Blossoms and DIA, but now I have four or five regulars.
One works in a regular office job, independent, intelligent, exactly what I am looking for in shape and attitude. About 30.
One is in real estate, very attractive features, smart, self sufficient, headstrong, body a bit soft, but a raging fucker. Late 30's, lied about her age on CB, but still good value, works out, exercises, pretty good shape.
One is willowy and tall, unemployed, but seems to have enough money to move around quite a bit. She has had one child, but her body is unmarked. I have give her a little money but not much.
One is tall, slim, very pretty, perfect figure, was a virgin when we met, but is now asking for money to help her and her family. I have said no, not till we live together. I will see how this one pans out.
One is drop dead gorgeous, very tall, slim, intelligent. I have been communicating with her for a couple of years from another association, and she had said that she was finally ready to get rid of her virginity. Unfortunately, we only had half a night together, but she was intent on deviginising herself, and I did the deed. She has asked for help to get herself a job, and I have helped with a little money. She is now in regular work, and does not need any more from me. About 24.
One is Thai, from a middle class family, financially independent, very loving. About 30. Body a bit soft from one child, but a very nice woman. But not much English, so communication is hard work while we are together. A fantastic blow job. Needs no money from me.
There are a couple of others in the Phils and Thailand who want to get into a long term relationship, but I am at my limit.
All are very loving and fun and very satisfying to be with and are cheap to maintain. So it can be done. I am 65, and wearing out, so they are not into me for my looks.
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true-but you did not specify
True, true, true, but I have been to both Japan and Hong Kong with these guys, and believe me, they could score anywhere, with anyone. It doesn't seem to me that clothes/looks would make a difference anywhere, not just bar girls. Some guys just have that special something that attracts women.
I agree, you live in PI, and we are on vacation. Same as in Hawaii, tourist vs. Local. We travel in different circles. Active duty military vs. Civilian adds to the equation. When I am on vacation, I just want to have a good time without any hassels. Don't we all?
I personally think it is personality. Just good attitude, fun vibes, and a genuine want to have a good time. When ever I return alone to places we have been, the girls ALWAYS ask me, "where is. ". They also say things like, "I have never done that before, etc. " Used to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off, but now I am used to it.
Any chance we can get this forum back to talking about fucking girls and not fashion accessories?
Carmex
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home alone...
Hi to all,
being now forced due business obligation to spend some days at my former home in Europe I meet up with some of my friends. Two of them are married now to a filipina. Its funny, how time can change somebody. One of my best friend deny or put negative comments about my life here in the Philippines.
As of him I have no idea whats going on in the Philippines, no idea about filipinas, no idea about nothing. He critizes my lifestyle, telling me the girls love me only because IM a foreigner. Asking me whats the fun to have such young GF and what do I talk to them. He is one of my best friends , so I just ignore his comments. He just bought his wife a house ina subdivison in Batangas for 25.000 Euros. Of course its not finished and of course if ever finished, he will be the last who will moving in. First of all it will be occupied by the relative of his wife , who spends more time and money in the Philippines then actually living and working in Germany.
Whenever Im alone with her she ask me to get her a job in the Phils. I ask her to submit me her CV and she like...."WHat"??
Actually deep inside I can feel of the jellyness of my friends. Im not banging 12 virgins evry day but I get more fun in the Philippines then here in my country. My lifestyle is much better and my weekends even more. Talking about what do I do with the young girls here. Well, I fuck them and if I like to talk with somebody I got my friends and have a beer.
Within this said evrybody a nice day. I myself enjoy the good beer and looking forward to get back this month.
Blink out
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How are Filipinas in the bed?
hello,
i realize that it's hard to generalise about a whole population of women but i was wondering how the culture of the pi affects filipinas sexual performance. i've yet to visit the pi. i've been to thailand a handful of times and though i like the women there it annoys me how they tend to act all shy and timid when it's time to do the deed. i know that it's a cultural thing in asia for the ladies to be modest but i like women that are more aggressive in the sack.
since the pi has some latin influence i'm hoping that filipinas possess more of that passion that i'm used to. my primary stomping ground is brazil. where it's not uncommon for a chick to practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you in bed.
any advice on how filipnas are? passive? aggressive? at least as good as the thais?
dsk
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Principal sponsor?
I met a nice girl in Cebu last year and we spent a few enjoyable weeks together. I invited her back to my country in April and we had another good time. Although I gave her some financial assistance on each occasion, she regards me as her bf and has never asked me for extra money.
Her brother's getting married in January and, out of the blue, I get a request to agree to be a principal sponsor, listed as such on the wedding invitation. To me, a sponsor is someone who pays the bills so my immediate reaction was to decline. However, a Google search reveals that it's something of an honour to be invited to be a principal sponsor at a PI wedding and the sites I saw made no mention of financial support.
What do you guys think? If I agree, will I be expected to cough up large amounts of money? If I decline, will that be an insult to the family?
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[QUOTE=Iron Duke]I met a nice girl in Cebu last year and we spent a few enjoyable weeks together. I invited her back to my country in April and we had another good time. Although I gave her some financial assistance on each occasion, she regards me as her bf and has never asked me for extra money.
Her brother's getting married in January and, out of the blue, I get a request to agree to be a principal sponsor, listed as such on the wedding invitation. To me, a sponsor is someone who pays the bills so my immediate reaction was to decline. However, a Google search reveals that it's something of an honour to be invited to be a principal sponsor at a PI wedding and the sites I saw made no mention of financial support.
What do you guys think? If I agree, will I be expected to cough up large amounts of money? If I decline, will that be an insult to the family?[/QUOTE]Normally a wedding sponsor is not expected to cough of large amounts of money. The term sponsor is just a bit unlucky. It has more to do with giving guidance and assistance to the couple or as being part of the marriage ceremony, than anything financial.
[quote]The principal attendants are known as 'sponsors'; male sponsors are ninongs and female sponsors are ninangs. In the Philippines, the number of sponsors can be just a single couple or numerous sponsors, perhaps as many as two dozen. They are women and men whom the bride and groom respect and admire, perhaps aunts and uncles or close friends of the family. As in the early days of the Church, the sponsors attest to the couple's readiness for marriage and freedom to marry. In the Philippines, they are also the official State witnesses and sign the marriage licence. Worldwide, their participation is symbolic of the wisdom and support they will offer the new couple. The Principal sponsors are part of the bridal procession.[/quote] It's an honour to be asked and a sign of respect from the family to you and your gf, as I expect her to be asked too. Maybe not insulted but I guess they will be a bit disappointed.
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[QUOTE=White Wolf]Normally a wedding sponsor is not expected to cough of large amounts of money. The term sponsor is just a bit unlucky. It has more to do with giving guidance and assistance to the couple or as being part of the marriage ceremony, than anything financial.
It's an honour to be asked and a sign of respect from the family to you and your gf, as I expect her to be asked too. Maybe not insulted but I guess they will be a bit disappointed.[/QUOTE]
Many thanks for the insight. After reading all about scams etc I was just a bit suspicious.
Of course, the gf may see it as an indication of my feelings towards her which is also something to be taken into account!
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[quote=devilspinkick]hello,
i realize that it's hard to generalise about a whole population of women but i was wondering how the culture of the pi affects filipinas sexual performance. i've yet to visit the pi. i've been to thailand a handful of times and though i like the women there it annoys me how they tend to act all shy and timid when it's time to do the deed. i know that it's a cultural thing in asia for the ladies to be modest but i like women that are more aggressive in the sack.
since the pi has some latin influence i'm hoping that filipinas possess more of that passion that i'm used to. my primary stomping ground is brazil. where it's not uncommon for a chick to practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you in bed.
any advice on how filipnas are? passive? aggressive? at least as good as the thais?
dsk[/quote]
now here is a can of worms.
*in general* thai's are ice queens compared to filipinas. they are very sexual by nature. odd, coming from a country with a 95% catholic background. but it is what it is. you will read many stories of guys falling for a girl after one night....thats their nature. very warm and friendly.
and some will rim you too. aggressive enough?
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My Filipina can sometimes be TOO sexually aggressive!
[quote=devilspinkick]my primary stomping ground is brazil. where it's not uncommon for a chick to practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you in bed.
any advice on how filipnas are? passive? aggressive? at least as good as the thais?
dsk[/quote]i used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. i visit this forum just for old times sake.
anyway, to answer your question, my filipina wife, maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. i'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but maricel wants it 2-3 times a day! often, if i am too tired, maricel won't take no for an answer and practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] me. if i don't have the energy, maricel sometimes feels hurt and thinks my desire for her is decreasing, so i often quench her needs by going down on her until she cums.
marical delights in waking me up in the middle of the night with a blow job, or sometimes she stops my snoring by smothering my face with her wet pussy. (it's a trip waking up with my nose inside her snatch! ) her favorite position is when she is on top, "driving" me (her term) and taking control. in other words, maricel is quite aggressive sexually, to say the least.
interestingly, when maricel is at work or in public, she is very conservative, quiet, and demur--the stereotypical asian lady. nobody would ever imagine what she is like behind closed doors.
i don't know where maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met. (i know this for a fact.) i think it's something in her genes. in any case, even if i had the desire to monger again, i wouldn't have any energy left.
radical guy
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I think the reason can be as simple as she is "selosa" jealous, and this way, you will be to exhausted to go hunting elsewhere :D
[QUOTE=Radical Guy]I used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from Davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. I visit this forum just for old times sake.
Anyway, to answer your question, my Filipina wife, Maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. I'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but Maricel wants it 2-3 times a day!
I don't know where Maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met. (I know this for a fact.) I think it's something in her genes. In any case, even if I had the desire to monger again, I wouldn't have any energy left.
Radical Guy
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy]I used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from Davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. I visit this forum just for old times sake.
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Good to hear a happy in progress story that will continue that way.
Wizard
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offcourse she is horny most young girls that age only think about 1 thing weather they are from the philippines or elsewhere thats natural. especielly if she was a virgin before. i'm also married to a filipina 21 years old from bohol since last year. she is just the same. always horny i could easily fuck her 4-5 times /day and the days we don't have sex she complains. she be practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] me a lot of the times. i actually can't keep up with her and i'm not even 30 yet.
[quote=radical guy]i used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. i visit this forum just for old times sake.
anyway, to answer your question, my filipina wife, maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. i'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but maricel wants it 2-3 times a day! often, if i am too tired, maricel won't take no for an answer and practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] me. if i don't have the energy, maricel sometimes feels hurt and thinks my desire for her is decreasing, so i often quench her needs by going down on her until she cums.
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Sex Addicts
[quote=radical guy]i used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. i visit this forum just for old times sake.
anyway, to answer your question, my filipina wife, maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. i'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but maricel wants it 2-3 times a day! often, if i am too tired, maricel won't take no for an answer and practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] me. if i don't have the energy, maricel sometimes feels hurt and thinks my desire for her is decreasing, so i often quench her needs by going down on her until she cums.
marical delights in waking me up in the middle of the night with a blow job, or sometimes she stops my snoring by smothering my face with her wet pussy. (it's a trip waking up with my nose inside her snatch! ) her favorite position is when she is on top, "driving" me (her term) and taking control. in other words, maricel is quite aggressive sexually, to say the least.
interestingly, when maricel is at work or in public, she is very conservative, quiet, and demur--the stereotypical asian lady. nobody would ever imagine what she is like behind closed doors.
i don't know where maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met. (i know this for a fact.) i think it's something in her genes. in any case, even if i had the desire to monger again, i wouldn't have any energy left.
radical guy
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that’s been my experience with every non-pro filipina. they are for the most part sexually charged. they have killed me in the sack then they get offended if you tell them you are tired and i still got a couple of years left before i hit 30.
[quote=marconista]i think the reason can be as simple as she is "selosa" jealous, and this way, you will be to exhausted to go hunting elsewhere :d[/quote]
i thought about this too. maybe it’s some strategy to keep you in the house my ltr has been using this of late and i have to admit its working.
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[quote=radical guy]i used to be a monger, but married a 23-year-old beauty from davao two years ago, and have been happily faithful ever since. i visit this forum just for old times sake.
anyway, to answer your question, my filipina wife, maricel, has a sex drive that just won't quit. i'm happy making love maybe 3-4 times a week, but maricel wants it 2-3 times a day! often, if i am too tired, maricel won't take no for an answer and practically [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] me. if i don't have the energy, maricel sometimes feels hurt and thinks my desire for her is decreasing, so i often quench her needs by going down on her until she cums.
marical delights in waking me up in the middle of the night with a blow job, or sometimes she stops my snoring by smothering my face with her wet pussy. (it's a trip waking up with my nose inside her snatch! ) her favorite position is when she is on top, "driving" me (her term) and taking control. in other words, maricel is quite aggressive sexually, to say the least.
interestingly, when maricel is at work or in public, she is very conservative, quiet, and demur--the stereotypical asian lady. nobody would ever imagine what she is like behind closed doors.
i don't know where maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met. (i know this for a fact.) i think it's something in her genes. in any case, even if i had the desire to monger again, i wouldn't have any energy left.
radical guy
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rd
teach her to 'swing' as a few of my friends in the philippines have done with their wives and then you will get a rest and some lovely threesomes and orgies. trust me, once they are hooked and you have managed to convince her you are not jealous and she cant be jealous as "you love her so much and it is just for fun and this is juts satisfying her needs as you are a good and loving husband.....", then you will have even more fun :d
trust me, as some of the girls i have known/know here are now into this, very liberal, one even asks for more sex toys and greek and dp at times - she was a good catholic girl before she met me :d
and as others have said, maybe a way to make sure you are too exhausted to look elsewhere
but, on the flip side, i know one filipina, married in us, 21, cute (friend of a friend) who only gets it once/twice a week. i have volunteered to relocate to usa to help her friend...and could come and help you if you like rd (am sure many of the isg fraternity would also offer if you are up for it .))
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[QUOTE=Radical Guy]I don't know where Maricel learned to be so sexual, as she was a virgin when we met.[/QUOTE]
My gf was also a virgin (at age 27!) when we met and I asked her how she knew what to do to make me feel so good. She was very knowledgable for a virgin and also quite adventurous! She confessed that all her "knowledge" came from reading FHM magazine.
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FHM magazine
During a trip my girlfriend had with me some time back we did the schoolgirl thing. She got dressed up and we had lots of fun.
Last trip she said she wanted to suprise me. So she undressed me then went off to bedroom and got changed. When she came back, she had her hair all tied up, had glasses on, skirt and white shirt etc and high stilettos.
She also tied me up. Then she placed me on the work table in hotel we were in. And she basically fucked me. Was lots of fun.
Later I asked her where she got this idea. Said from reading a back copy of FHM. This must be a good magazine!
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Fhm
There are many magazines in the reception area of my office. My secretary always tells me that the first magazine that a woman picks up is Maxim. Gotta love a nice slutty girl.
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Like A Unicorn
[QUOTE=Iron Duke]My gf was also a virgin (at age 27!) when we met and I asked her how she knew what to do to make me feel so good. She was very knowledgable for a virgin and also quite adventurous! She confessed that all her "knowledge" came from reading FHM magazine.[/QUOTE]
I have still never ever seen an adult age Filipina virgin.
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F H M Magazine
[QUOTE=Iron Duke]She confessed that all her "knowledge" came from reading FHM magazine.[/QUOTE]
For those that do not know, FHM has a Philippine edition. In fact I have the latest copy in hand celebrating their 100th issue. Almost a carbon copy of the American version, with minimal Tagalog.
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Unicorn PtII
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]I have still never ever seen an adult age Filipina virgin.[/QUOTE]
Well Daddy Warbuck$ I have seen one, my Girlfriend was a virgin until I met her at 25.
I have to agree with previous comments, it didnt take her long to catch on and was soon taking delight in the two of us having sex in the room right next to her family at any time of day or night. Most of the time with her being the instigator.
I got very lucky with this one, even though family is poor etc etc, they never hit me up for money and when i do something for them (without being asked or even hinted at) they get very embaressed.
So they are out there but like the unicorn you just have to look real hard. Of course the only time i ever saw a unicorn I was under the influence.
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Well I certainly appreciate the input. Makes me feel better about making another trip to SEA. I like variety and love to check out different pools of chicas, but too many times I end up wishing I had gone to Brazil (or Germany) instead. Haven't purchased tickets yet but I plan to make my first trip to the PI next February.
DSK
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Adult Filipina virgin
Few years back when I lived in Manila, chatted with a girl who delighted in making sometimes romantic and sometimes red hot poetry ( poetry you say...well I will put up with a lot to get my jollies). Anyways figured she woul be an easy target as she seemed to be horny. Worked near Makati med in a dental office I remember.
Then one day in chat she tells me shes a 26 year old virgin. Would be happy to lose it but wanted to do it with a guy who cared.
We met a few times but I assessed that it would take a lot more time and care than I was willing to invest. No idea what happened to her. But clearly this species exists.
Read in UK online paper the other day about a 38 year old virgin.They did the article as it was obviously a rare condition. Girl said she was happy. Go figure.
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Virgins
They're out there. I met a couple of them online, then for real, during the time that I stayed in Manila for 2 months a couple of years back. I decided they were too much trouble because I only wanted to play and I didn't want to deal with the emotional baggage. I will say one of them was definite wife material had I been interested. That one was 33 years old while the other one was 25.
I've posted here before that I was offered a p4p virgin, a very pretty 18 year old who was willing to give it up for 50,000 pesos. I passed, not my style or my budget, but that action is out there too, just have to look for it.
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More legal advice needed
This is off topic guys. Please bare with me for a moment.
[QUOTE=Radical Guy]I'm a Texas lawyer, and I do mostly family law. I highly recommend that you sign NOTHING until you have consulted with an experienced family lawyer.[/QUOTE]
RG,
Thanks for that bit of legal advice. I would really like to get more. I tried to PM you to request this, but a message popped up and said that you are unable to receive it. If possible, can you PM me?
I am very quickly tiring of this long ordeal. I have tried to be nice to my hopefully soon to be ex-wife for almost 3 years now. She has replied only with demands and threats. Please help me out here if you can. If not, please offer me some referals in the Killeen, TX area.
Thank you!
HW
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Virgin
[QUOTE=Finrod]I've posted here before that I was offered a p4p virgin, a very pretty 18 year old who was willing to give it up for 50,000 pesos. I passed, not my style or my budget, but that action is out there too, just have to look for it.[/QUOTE]
That's nice but how does one verify she's a virgin.
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[QUOTE=Lustforthrust]That's nice but how does one verify she's a virgin.[/QUOTE]At the risk of stating the obvious, google " hymen"... that will tell you all you need to know.
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Hymen. The God of marriage?
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]At the risk of stating the obvious, google " hymen"... that will tell you all you need to know.[/QUOTE]
Hymen or Hymenaeus was the god of marriage and the marriage feast or song. He is often depicted with a marriage feast torch in his hand. This god was the son of Aphrodite by Dionysus and therefore the full brother of Priapus. His attributes are referred to in the opening sections of Homer's Iliad as well as playing a part in Virgil's Aeneid. He is a character in both As You Like It and The Tempest by Shakespeare.
In Greek mythology he plays a prominent part as a subordinate character in certain cycles, for example: "Hymen had been called to bless with his presence the nuptials of Orpheus with Eurydice; but though he attended, he brought no happy omens with him. His very torch smoked and brought tears into their eyes. In coincidence with such prognostics, Eurydice, shortly after her marriage, while wandering with the nymphs, her companions, was seen by the shepherd Aristaeus, who was struck by her beauty and made advances to her." (Bulfinch's Mythology) Thus we see how the torches were part of a casting for omens at the feast with regard to the success of the marriage. He was also the personification of the wedding hymn (humnos) which made be the word from which the god's name derives.
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Hymen part 2
Thank Aussie. You found the only reference ("www, pantheon.org I assume") that doesn't refer to the slim sliver of tissue that separates the virgins from the non virgins. All other google artlicles about said same hymen will help the reader understand its total relevance to the issue of virginity and whether one would know if the gilr was. Or wasn't.
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Hymen googled
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]At the risk of stating the obvious, google " hymen"... that will tell you all you need to know.[/QUOTE]
A quote from Wikipedia:
"From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
For other uses, see Hymen (disambiguation).
Hymen shown in a drawing from Gray's AnatomyThe hymen (also called maidenhead) is a fold of mucous membrane which surrounds or partially covers the external vaginal opening. It was also the name for the Greek god of marriage, "Hymenaios."[1][2] It forms part of the vulva, or external genitalia.[3][4] An English slang term is "cherry", as in "popping one's cherry" (losing one's virginity). However, it is not possible to confirm that a woman or post-pubescent girl is not a virgin by examining the hymen."
Take special note of the word "NOT" in the last sentence of the quote.
HW
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Hymen googled
[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]A quote from Wikipedia:
However, it is not possible to confirm that a woman or post-pubescent girl is not a virgin by examining the hymen."
Take special note of the word "NOT" in the last sentence of the quote.
HW[/QUOTE]
Indeed.
I thought everyone knew that. Especially mongers. I must be naive.
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Age old question
Hello All,
Would like to change the tone of the posts here and possibly start a new discussion. I previously thought the topic had been beat to death, and my decision was soundly in favor of one direction only, however, now I am not so sure. The topic is (groan) the bar girl vs. "good" girl debate. I know, I know, not another one of those right? But please read me out before you move on.
We all know the horror stories of those that have married bar girls (BG) or who have LTR with BG’s with disastrous results. I myself was dead set against the BG as a LTR, but after spending 5 days in Cebu with a "good" girl, BG’s are starting to look better and better. Girl in Cebu was from FH, 26, Registered Nurse with actual job, family with money, etc. Never let me pay for one thing while I was in Cebu except for the hotel and any extras like SML’s, going jet ski riding, stuff like that. Meals were split, and she paid for every cab, visits to the store, groceries, even island hopping. She had her own apartment which she shared and paid for with her hot roommate. She was pretty much the opposite of every Filipina I have ever met. She had three smoking hot sisters who were nurses also. Body was about a 7, face 7, attitude was 8, and LTR potential a 10. We fucked everyday twice a day, as she was always willing. GFE was almost too much at like a 11. 5 out of 10. So what is not to like huh? Well, there seemed to be an absence of wildness in the situation, sort of like being on vacation with a wife or something. And then there is the sex. Yea, it was good, what is not to like about a young 20 something Filipina? But I definitely had a problem with length and girth, and she could not really take it when going full throttle. I don’t know if BG’s are used to being pounded, or just don’t complain, but they always seem to take it without too much complaining. Plus you get to change positions, go deep when BBBJ, pull out and CIM or COF when with a nasty BG. I was reminded of when I lived in the US and went with strippers. You know they are bad for you, but oh so much fun. And it is kind of fun being bad di ba? Like a good cigar.
In the end, I still missed my babyko from AC, who I enjoy being with and fucking, but can’t stand the fact of the business she is in. I thought I could be mature enough to deal with it, but it always bothered me if I called her and she would not answer the phone. So I guess the question is, can you have it all?
Thoughts and comments welcome as always.
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PI Unicorns
[QUOTE=Carmex]Hello All,
Would like to change the tone of the posts here and possibly start a new discussion. I previously thought the topic had been beat to death, and my decision was soundly in favor of one direction only, however, now I am not so sure. The topic is (groan) the bar girl vs. "good" girl debate. I know, I know, not another one of those right? But please read me out before you move on.
We all know the horror stories of those that have married bar girls (BG) or who have LTR with BG’s with disastrous results. I myself was dead set against the BG as a LTR, but after spending 5 days in Cebu with a "good" girl, BG’s are starting to look better and better. Girl in Cebu was from FH, 26, Registered Nurse with actual job, family with money, etc. Never let me pay for one thing while I was in Cebu except for the hotel and any extras like SML’s, going jet ski riding, stuff like that. Meals were split, and she paid for every cab, visits to the store, groceries, even island hopping. She had her own apartment which she shared and paid for with her hot roommate. She was pretty much the opposite of every Filipina I have ever met. She had three smoking hot sisters who were nurses also. Body was about a 7, face 7, attitude was 8, and LTR potential a 10. We fucked everyday twice a day, as she was always willing. GFE was almost too much at like a 11. 5 out of 10. So what is not to like huh? Well, there seemed to be an absence of wildness in the situation, sort of like being on vacation with a wife or something. And then there is the sex. Yea, it was good, what is not to like about a young 20 something Filipina? But I definitely had a problem with length and girth, and she could not really take it when going full throttle. I don’t know if BG’s are used to being pounded, or just don’t complain, but they always seem to take it without too much complaining. Plus you get to change positions, go deep when BBBJ, pull out and CIM or COF when with a nasty BG. I was reminded of when I lived in the US and went with strippers. You know they are bad for you, but oh so much fun. And it is kind of fun being bad di ba? Like a good cigar.
In the end, I still missed my babyko from AC, who I enjoy being with and fucking, but can’t stand the fact of the business she is in. I thought I could be mature enough to deal with it, but it always bothered me if I called her and she would not answer the phone. So I guess the question is, can you have it all?
Thoughts and comments welcome as always.[/QUOTE]
Damn dude you found a filipina with her own money....not just getting by I mean with her own bread...don't mind paying for shit in PI.... another Unicorn...
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Virgins
There have been a couple o fposts about virgins.
My two cents worth.
I have deflowered a number of virgins in the Phils, none for payment.
Youngest about 22, gorgeous, oldest about 35. I suspect that the gorrgeous one only wanted someone to help her get rid of her virginity, and wanted someone nice to do it for her.
There has been baggage from only one.
I did deflower a bargirl, but by mistake. I had asked the mamasan for a virgin, because I did not want sex that night, only company. However the girl misunderstood the situation, and went for it hard. In the end, she wore down my defences, and we fucked. Frequently, all night. She was ferocious.
Apparently she thought that she was going to get a bundle of money. We met next morning with my mate and his gf. His gf was asking the girl if she had done it. No clear reply.
I then had to take off for Manila. The bg went to the mamasan for her money and was enraged when there was no money. But the mamasan took her to a doctor, who certified that she was still a virgin.
So she went back on the market.
In general, I think that virgins come with too much responsibility, and I am never going to do it again. But I probably will.
G
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Caveat though
Yea, girl blew me away. We actually got into an argument over her paying for stuff. Would not let me pay at all. However now, she is txting me, putting me in her friendster as we are "couple" in deep relationship, etc. Calls me crying today about why I don't return her calls. Fuck! Are these girls crazy over there or what? Jesus man, thought I found a good one and she turns out to be crazy. WTF? So, just stick to bar girls or what? I can't stand drama. I tell her to be cool and she starts crying again, asking if we are broken up, do I still like her, did I ever like her, etc. OMG right now thinking I should cut and run. Babyko in Angeles is cool as fuck.
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Damn dude you found a filipina with her own money....not just getting by I mean with her own bread...don't mind paying for shit in PI.... another Unicorn...[/QUOTE]
They're not common at all, but they do exist. I met one in her mid 30's who had come from a well-to-do family and had been married to a foreigner and long since divorced. Not remembering what she did for a living. She owned a house in Alabang and a couple of condos elsewhere, she drove an SUV, she had a live-in housekeeper to help with her kids, she had a driver for when she wanted to make the trip into Manila, she paid for our (expensive) dinner, etc. She was friendly, not bad looking, I liked her, but there was not a lot of chemistry between us. Anyway, the only girl I met in the RP who was likely worth more than me...
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You Guys Are Crazy
[QUOTE=Finrod]They're not common at all, but they do exist. I met one in her mid 30's who had come from a well-to-do family and had been married to a foreigner and long since divorced. Not remembering what she did for a living. She owned a house in Alabang and a couple of condos elsewhere, she drove an SUV, she had a live-in housekeeper to help with her kids, she had a driver for when she wanted to make the trip into Manila, she paid for our (expensive) dinner, etc. She was friendly, not bad looking, I liked her, but there was not a lot of chemistry between us. Anyway, the only girl I met in the RP who was likely worth more than me...[/QUOTE]
You don’t just say fuck you to Halley’s comet. I am sorry if I ever found a Filipina who was young didn't look bad and was worth more then the clothes on her back I would stick with her guess I be hanging out at the wrong fucking places :(
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Daddy.. your in ALL the wrong places
You want to see moneyed ladies. Go check out Alabang town center and see the young chikkas getting out of Daddys' car. They got more than you andme put together. Of course their Daddy (not you LOL) generally has a house in Alabang (Ayala Alabang not the cheaper Alabang hills parts). A few companies and some good connections.
Burgos street most certainly isn't where the money is.
Alternately go look at some of the office in Yuchengko centre and hang around the PSE building on Ayala avenue. Lots of up and coming ladies with businesses. To look for money go to where the money is.
Theres plenty of Filipinas who own houses, have degrees from overseas (often US) schools, and take vacations in Europe twice a year with the odd shopping trip to HK. Go sit in the Cathay business and first class lounge at NAIA airport and you will see all these. Its all about being in the right place.
But some of us. Like it down and dirty. Much easier to hit the honey pot. Hahahah
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Seen Them But Not Touched Kind Of Like The $100 Stack Jewelry In Dubai
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]You want to see moneyed ladies. Go check out Alabang town center and see the young chikkas getting out of Daddys' car. They got more than you andme put together. Of course their Daddy (not you LOL) generally has a house in Alabang (Ayala Alabang not the cheaper Alabang hills parts). A few companies and some good connections.
Burgos street most certainly isn't where the money is.
Alternately go look at some of the office in Yuchengko centre and hang around the PSE building on Ayala avenue. Lots of up and coming ladies with businesses. To look for money go to where the money is.
Theres plenty of Filipinas who own houses, have degrees from overseas (often US) schools, and take vacations in Europe twice a year with the odd shopping trip to HK. Go sit in the Cathay business and first class lounge at NAIA airport and you will see all these. Its all about being in the right place.
But some of us. Like it down and dirty. Much easier to hit the honey pot. Hahahah[/QUOTE]
Maybe I need to rephrase the statement I have seen them but just not have been able to become involved with one have not made any effort either. I go to the gym in Alabang where my town house is. Also I know a Filipina in Japan who is worth about 400 stacks [url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stack[/url] in liquid assets and about over another 200 stacks in property :) She is my LTR’s cousin who gave me assistance on buying my townhouse here.
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]You don’t just say fuck you to Halley’s comet. I am sorry if I ever found a Filipina who was young didn't look bad and was worth more then the clothes on her back I would stick with her guess I be hanging out at the wrong fucking places :([/QUOTE]
Halley's comet, that's funny, DW, appreciate the lighter moment...
The other posters are spot on about Alabang and its Town Center. And spot on about going where the money is. Another subdivision area that has some moneyed filipinos is BF Homes in Paranaque/Las Pinas. There are a couple of really expensive condo buildings in Makati where top end condos go for Php 30m to 50m. I seem to recall hearing of other areas/subdivisions around Manila with rich filipinos in them, but I've never been so I can't say for sure where they are. You can find them shopping at Rockwell mall in Makati; I think that is about the most up-scale mall I've been to.
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Hi So Flipers
I suspect these hiso babes are not worth the time and effort to bed. Same basic pussy as the poor girls, what is the attraction.
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Manila or BKK?
Just a quick question for the seasoned mongers in both PI & LOS.
I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.
I have been to LOS 4 times but never to Manila but have met and played with many a PI lady in HKG.
So the question is..should I just go to BKK or should I venture to Manila and see it first hand. If it makes any difference..I will be travelling alone and without my wingman. Should I make a recon mission? Any MUST see/do in PI for such a short period of time?
Any pros/cons that make 1 better than the other. It seems from RTFF and my LOS experience that the prices are about the same for room/board and companionship. So I am looking for your esteemed opinion on which you think is better and why, or if it is really just 6 of this or half a dozen of that.
Thanks in advance for any insight(s) you can give me.
CT
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Taken From The Manila Board.....
[QUOTE=Yella Man]....That's news to me also. I'm a Yella Brotha, hence the name Yella Man, and I don't have much problem hooking up with 7-10's in the Phils. Hell, I could be a 90 years old, one eyed, no legged gimp (no offense meant if you really are one) and still get some play off of some of the girls in the Phils. Sure, some of them have a preference, but the almighty $$$ and their basic survival instincts usually over rule preference. It's all about economics.
Still Skinning Them Up!
Yella Man[/QUOTE]
I always take a little time to read and learn "up" on the culture of a country before I visit and in this case live. If you don’t know about colonial effects the Spanish had on this country and the creation of the “white is right” phenomenon then you have not done your home work. Most of all the actors and people in positions of power have fair skin. Most Filipinos I have met outside the Philippines have very perverse attitudes towards blacks. Lazy, violent is only a small fraction of what I have heard. My GF of 2 years tells me everything that is said about or pertaining to blacks when she is in earshot. I had two Filipinos one a co-worker in Kabul but now naturalized citizen of the USA tell me black people are bad. I had one accountant I met online in Cebu tell me the same. When I confronted them with why is the Philippines on the US State department list as one of the most dangerous travel destinations they both came up with some lame excuse to defend their country.
That being said yes it still is easier for me to meet women here than in the US but I am just losing my desire for the ones who don’t got a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in and a window to throw it of. If you date or keep a fling that is broke more than likely her overall motivation for being involved with you is money. That’s fun and all but all that comes down to is another form of Pay for Play. While I know there are guys who say you pay for pussy no matter what I and I do believe this is true it’s nice to spend some time with woman who can buy her own damn cell phone which is such a popular sugar daddy gift now and days.
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Bad Effects of Movies & TV
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]I always take a little time to read and learn "up" on the culture of a country before I visit and in this case live. If you don’t know about colonial effects the Spanish had on this country and the creation of the “white is right” phenomenon then you have not done your home work. Most of all the actors and people in positions of power have fair skin. Most Filipinos I have met outside the Philippines have very perverse attitudes towards blacks. Lazy, violent is only a small fraction of what I have heard. My GF of 2 years tells me everything that is said about or pertaining to blacks when she is in earshot. I had two Filipinos one a co-worker in Kabul but now naturalized citizen of the USA tell me black people are bad. I had one accountant I met online in Cebu tell me the same. When I confronted them with why is the Philippines on the US State department list as one of the most dangerous travel destinations they both came up with some lame accuse to defend their country.
That being said yes it still is easier for me to meet women here than in the US but I am just losing my desire for the ones who don’t got a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in and a window to throw it of. If you date or keep a fling that is broke more than likely her overall motivation for being involved with you is money. That’s fun and all but all that comes down to is another form of Pay for Play. While I know there are guys who say you pay for pussy no matter what I and I do believe this is true it’s nice to spend some time with woman who can buy her own damn cell phone which is such a popular sugar daddy gift now and days.[/QUOTE]
DW,
Being a white guy, I know that I don't have the same perspective on things that a black man would have. But I am sure that the way that most movies and TV programs portray blacks has a lot to do with how people view black Americans all around the world. I have black friends and co-workers that I feel I can trust much more than many whites or Asians. I feel that the generalization of people is wrong. You can't judge the character of a person just by their skin color.
I was asked if I would not vote for Obama in the recent elections, because of his skin color. My response was that I don't care about the color of his skin, rather what his capabilities are. I think that elections should be done much like an online job application. Don't do all the campaigning to get your face in front of everyone. Simply post your resume, absent of any mention of race, color, sex (gender that is :D ). And let the people select the best qualified candidate from that. I think that many people in America voted during this election in order to feel like they were making history, and not because their choice was the best qualified. That being said, I have no doubt that President Elect Obama will serve his country well. After all, how much worse can it get after father and son Bush, and Clinton?
Thanks for the history lesson on the PI, by the way. I am one of those that you mentioned, "not doing his homework."
HW
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Filipinos, Racism and Bleaching Cream
Filipinas probably spend more collectively on skin "whiteners" than any other people on the face of the earth. DW is absolutely correct. On the continuum of color, the whiter or paler you are, the better your adjudged to be and, if you're mestiza, you've won the gold ring. This obsession with whiteness is deeply ingrained from colonial times, and it ain't going away any time soon. Not only are many (perhaps most) of the most powerful politicians whiter than others, but so are the scions of the most successful business families..at least those who aren't Chinese. Whoever said that this is the most colonized country in the world was correct. Another problem of course is that the public education system basically perpetuates this mentality, and, since it does not encourage thought so much as it does rote memorization, the concept isn't going to evaporate overnight.
On the other hand Obama's election was followed widely here, and covered extensively both by the broadcast and print media. Perhaps the fact that the country most idolized and aped by Filipinos actually elected an African American will do more to cause Filipinos to question the legitimacy of the whole color=human worth equation than anything else.
As to chasing women who can actually afford a cell phone, I think DW's point is well taken. The fact is that competent women are more likely to be decently educated and you may even be able to have an intelligent conversation with them. They may, for example, have actually read books. The constant chase after uneducated pussy, be they P4P or no, gets tiresome after a while if you live here. There's only so much time you can spend in bed and sooner or later, you're probably going to have to actually talk to someone in entire paragraphs that contain, perhaps, complex sentences. It's nice to find women who are capable of doing this.
GE
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You mentioned Obama I just have to say one thing about that. There was a worldwide survey done in 70 countries about who they wanted to see elected as US president and the majority in 68 countries voted obama except 2 countries, Philippines and Georgia. Georgia I can understand becos they feel that McCain can help them more against the russians but Philippines. I suspect a lot of the filipinos who participated in this survey didn't know so much about Obama and McCain. So their votes was probabley based on the appearance.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Filipinas probably spend more collectively on skin "whiteners" than any other people on the face of the earth. DW is absolutely correct. On the continuum of color, the whiter or paler you are, the better your adjudged to be and, if you're mestiza, you've won the gold ring. This obsession with whiteness is deeply ingrained from colonial times, and it ain't going away any time soon. Not only are many (perhaps most) of the most powerful politicians whiter than others, but so are the scions of the most successful business families..at least those who aren't Chinese. Whoever said that this is the most colonized country in the world was correct. Another problem of course is that the public education system basically perpetuates this mentality, and, since it does not encourage thought so much as it does rote memorization, the concept isn't going to evaporate overnight.
On the other hand Obama's election was followed widely here, and covered extensively both by the broadcast and print media. Perhaps the fact that the country most idolized and aped by Filipinos actually elected an African American will do more to cause Filipinos to question the legitimacy of the whole color=human worth equation than anything else.
As to chasing women who can actually afford a cell phone, I think DW's point is well taken. The fact is that competent women are more likely to be decently educated and you may even be able to have an intelligent conversation with them. They may, for example, have actually read books. The constant chase after uneducated pussy, be they P4P or no, gets tiresome after a while if you live here. There's only so much time you can spend in bed and sooner or later, you're probably going to have to actually talk to someone in entire paragraphs that contain, perhaps, complex sentences. It's nice to find women who are capable of doing this.
GE[/QUOTE]
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Manila or BKK?
[QUOTE=ChiefThinker]
I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.
CT[/QUOTE]
For sure BKK is more fun and everything is at your fingertips. Makiti is shit compared to Bangkok. IMO the Filipina are much hotter in bed and it is easier to find a find a girl that is less than 100% HO In Thailand everyone is either a HO or a pimp - few exceptions.
Check if you can fly directly into Manila and return from clark, (better than vise versa for getting to airport) if so then I would say go Philippines. City State Hotel, hit the LA Cafe both in Ermita section of Manila and stay at the Orchid Inn in Angeles. Bus to Angeles departs from noon Swagmans, couple of hours.
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Would Like To Read Real Report....
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....Before we were rudely interrupted.... would be interesting to see where you got your info from send me a PM.
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You can find the report just google it
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]....Before we were rudely interrupted.... would be interesting to see where you got your info from send me a PM.[/QUOTE]nfortunatley I can't send private message but the report is available online on nydailynews
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]....Before we were rudely interrupted.... would be interesting to see where you got your info from send me a PM.[/QUOTE]Here is the link
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/10/21/2008-10-21_global_survey_shows_world_citizens_prefe.html[/url]
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You show me any politician running for office who really makes a difference about anything, I'll show you a unicorn.
Common guys, stop this elementary shit!
Most realistic people in this world don't give a shit who is the president of any country. I would vote if there is an election to replace my boss, but other than that, I don't have time for stupid, self-fish, egotistic politicians.
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[QUOTE=Columpuss]You show me any politician running for office who really makes a difference about anything, I'll show you a unicorn.
Common guys, stop this elementary shit!
Most realistic people in this world don't give a shit who is the president of any country. I would vote if there is an election to replace my boss, but other than that, I don't have time for stupid, self-fish, egotistic politicians.[/QUOTE]I agree with that sir....we were out of topic.
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Latest Drivel
As I sit here waxing poetic about Filipinas-Opinions and Advice, after some boring research I have come to an epiphany about the small, elusive mammal known as "pinay". The first is the frustration that many westerners feel when they are answered yes to a question posed about anything. To westerners this might be seen as little white lies, in the discourse to avoid any unpleasantness caused during the interpersonal relationship. It seems yes can mean anything from a Filipino. Yes can mean: I’m not sure, maybe, or I don’t think I can do that but I don’t want to say no to you. The Filipino anticipates and gives an expected answer in order to avoid a negative reply. This is what I assume means when you ask a bar girl a ‘how much’ for services rendered and you get the answer "it’s up to you". It is all about personal relationships and saving face. Other ways of saying no without saying it could be: if you say so, we’ll see, I don’t know, I will make an effort, or the obvious lifting eyebrows without comment.
This concept ties in with the importance of family and kinship. As most BG’s come from the province, or are at least tied to family in the province, they still feel some form of obligation to the family or family name. I think in the barrios, family honor means everything, and most BG’s are still cognizant of that fact. The Philippines is mostly a country made up of island communities, with each island having it own identity and series of values, as evident by the strong Muslim beliefs in the Sulu Archipelago to the mountains of Luzon. I think this is why the idea of central government is not taking hold; vastly different cultures without a unifying belief.
The idea of family commitment is why politics in the PI is also strange to a westerner. Filipinos respond to family ties, and politics have nothing to do with capabilities. If someone knows or is distantly related to a candidate, then they will vote for that candidate no matter what. There is also the repayment of debt, or "I owe you one". My guess is politics in the PI is all about doing favors and receiving repayment.
Kinship does not apply to outsiders. Tourists are fair game when it comes to pricing, however, should that same person be applied to a family (this is my friend/brother/whatever) then kinship should apply and they should get a fair price.
Westerners can avoid some hassles by using the go between. In order to avoid conflict, the outsider should employ a go between or "fixer". It has been stated on the board before how some guys got extended visas in 30 minutes and others it took 4 hours. Filipinos sitting at desks in government offices are less likely to deal with hassles or bureaucracy or having to say no to someone and thus seeming incompetent. Instead, they can have a go between and not lose face, and still complete the task. I imagine this is how business is done in the PI. Would be nice if Mamasan was on our side ALL the time, but many times not. Unless you know her and have a good relationship with her. A good go between in BG’s is often the friend/cousin/sister. How many times have you guys heard, "My friend likes you to bar fine her"?
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[QUOTE=Carmex]As I sit here waxing poetic about Filipinas-Opinions and Advice, after some boring research I have come to an epiphany about the small, elusive mammal known as "pinay". The first is the frustration that many westerners feel when they are answered yes to a question posed about anything. To westerners this might be seen as little white lies, in the discourse to avoid any unpleasantness caused during the interpersonal relationship. It seems yes can mean anything from a Filipino. Yes can mean: I’m not sure, maybe, or I don’t think I can do that but I don’t want to say no to you. The Filipino anticipates and gives an expected answer in order to avoid a negative reply. This is what I assume means when you ask a bar girl a ‘how much’ for services rendered and you get the answer "it’s up to you". It is all about personal relationships and saving face. Other ways of saying no without saying it could be: if you say so, we’ll see, I don’t know, I will make an effort, or the obvious lifting eyebrows without comment.
This concept ties in with the importance of family and kinship. As most BG’s come from the province, or are at least tied to family in the province, they still feel some form of obligation to the family or family name. I think in the barrios, family honor means everything, and most BG’s are still cognizant of that fact. The Philippines is mostly a country made up of island communities, with each island having it own identity and series of values, as evident by the strong Muslim beliefs in the Sulu Archipelago to the mountains of Luzon. I think this is why the idea of central government is not taking hold; vastly different cultures without a unifying belief.
The idea of family commitment is why politics in the PI is also strange to a westerner. Filipinos respond to family ties, and politics have nothing to do with capabilities. If someone knows or is distantly related to a candidate, then they will vote for that candidate no matter what. There is also the repayment of debt, or "I owe you one". My guess is politics in the PI is all about doing favors and receiving repayment.
Kinship does not apply to outsiders. Tourists are fair game when it comes to pricing, however, should that same person be applied to a family (this is my friend/brother/whatever) then kinship should apply and they should get a fair price.
Westerners can avoid some hassles by using the go between. In order to avoid conflict, the outsider should employ a go between or "fixer". It has been stated on the board before how some guys got extended visas in 30 minutes and others it took 4 hours. Filipinos sitting at desks in government offices are less likely to deal with hassles or bureaucracy or having to say no to someone and thus seeming incompetent. Instead, they can have a go between and not lose face, and still complete the task. I imagine this is how business is done in the PI. Would be nice if Mamasan was on our side ALL the time, but many times not. Unless you know her and have a good relationship with her. A good go between in BG’s is often the friend/cousin/sister. How many times have you guys heard, "My friend likes you to bar fine her"?
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Having spent a good amount of time in the PI, and being married to a pinay, I can say you are spot on. I'd like to comment on this sentence: "the strong Muslim beliefs in the Sulu Archipelago to the mountains of Luzon"...you are talking about a small majority of filipinos here, and you may know this. The country, as most of us know, is 90+% Catholic, with the majority of Muslims being in the southern area of Mindanau. Youre pretty hard pressed to find a Muslim in Luzon.
But everything else you said is spot on. The idea of saving face and "I owe you one" in regards to family and friends is the driving force behind these girls. Everything they do is for their family. If you spend time in a place like Burgos or AC and ask 10 girls why they are working in a bar, I would bet at least 7/10 will say for their family. We take it for granted they say this, but under the exteriror *most* of these girls are still provincial girls with a deep, deep loyalty to their family. I WILL say this is a generality, but generalities are generally true :).
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[QUOTE=ChiefThinker]Just a quick question for the seasoned mongers in both PI & LOS.
I will be in HKG with the opportunity to visit either BKK or Manila for 3-4 days next week.
I have been to LOS 4 times but never to Manila but have met and played with many a PI lady in HKG.
So the question is..should I just go to BKK or should I venture to Manila and see it first hand. If it makes any difference..I will be travelling alone and without my wingman. Should I make a recon mission? Any MUST see/do in PI for such a short period of time?
Any pros/cons that make 1 better than the other. It seems from RTFF and my LOS experience that the prices are about the same for room/board and companionship. So I am looking for your esteemed opinion on which you think is better and why, or if it is really just 6 of this or half a dozen of that.
Thanks in advance for any insight(s) you can give me.
CT[/QUOTE]
Chief: If your goal of the trip is to monger I would suggest heading straight to AC. There are a couple busses that run from Ermita to AC daily. Theres really only 4 things to do in AC: drink, eat, sleep, and monger. Thats about it. There are hundreds of girls. Whatever your fetish or taste, you will find it in AC all within a few blocks.
If you want to see some sights, Manila is OK, but you might want to look at Subic also. It really is a beautiful place with lots to do. And P4P is really growing there. One bar owner from AC sold his joint there (Kokomos) and opened a new place in Subic for this reason. I dont want to violate linking rules but if you Google Kokomos Subic you will find the info you need. Check it out.
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Entttttt....
[QUOTE=Blackangst]Youre pretty hard pressed to find a Muslim in Luzon.
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...That's the wrong buzzer. There are pockets of muslim communities all over Metro Manila.
My next door neighbor in my moderate subdivision was a Muslim. I remember walking out my crib and seeing his wife paying with their child with the scarf over her head. After being in and out of Afghanistan I was taken back by this. (After working in Afghanistan for the last four years let’s just say I don’t hold Muslims in a high light). I didn’t want to stay there anymore but came to my senses. That’s the same way some assholes behave when they see blacks have moved in next door. The guy recently sold the place to a young Pinoy and his family...Turns out the guy was self employed and his business was deteriorating. Tough economic times eh?
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[QUOTE=Blackangst]Youre pretty hard pressed to find a Muslim in Luzon.[/QUOTE]
There's plenty in AC also and they may or may not dress just like christians... so you never know.
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Stay with BKK
ChiefThinker, my advice is to stick with Bangkok, unless you're searching for more GFE sex with girls who speak some English. Aside from Greenbelt and a few other areas of Makati, Manila is a polluted shit hole of a city that hold nothing of interest for those who have traveled extensively.
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She should have stayed in the Philippines
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/04/woman-swept-to-sea-during_n_148592.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Blackangst]Having spent a good amount of time in the PI, and being married to a pinay, I can say you are spot on. I'd like to comment on this sentence: "the strong Muslim beliefs in the Sulu Archipelago to the mountains of Luzon"...you are talking about a small majority of filipinos here, and you may know this. The country, as most of us know, is 90+% Catholic, with the majority of Muslims being in the southern area of Mindanau. Youre pretty hard pressed to find a Muslim in Luzon.
But everything else you said is spot on. The idea of saving face and "I owe you one" in regards to family and friends is the driving force behind these girls. Everything they do is for their family. If you spend time in a place like Burgos or AC and ask 10 girls why they are working in a bar, I would bet at least 7/10 will say for their family. We take it for granted they say this, but under the exteriror *most* of these girls are still provincial girls with a deep, deep loyalty to their family. I WILL say this is a generality, but generalities are generally true :).[/QUOTE]
There's a Tagalog phrase that explains a lot about how filipinos and filipinas feel about their families: utang na loob. Strictly speaking, there isn't a straight translation to English as the meaning is embedded in their culture, but it has to do with the sense of obligation that they feel toward their families and other superior figures in their society. If you google it, you'll get better explanations than I could give.
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[QUOTE=Finrod]There's a Tagalog phrase that explains a lot about how filipinos and filipinas feel about their families: utang na loob.[/QUOTE][i]UTANG[/i] = debt and [i]LOOB[/i] = inside/within
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[QUOTE=Darth Sushi][i]UTANG[/i] = debt and [i]LOOB[/i] = inside/within[/QUOTE]'Debt to my family' is how some girls explain it's meaning.
AV
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Not just the family
Utang na loob doesn't really mean debt to the family. It's more of a debt of the heart (inside is right), and it's an obligation that's so deeply ingrained that it never goes away.
Philippines society works on a constantly-shifting network of obligations, and utang can be incurred by anyone in relation to anyone else. Certainly the deepest debt is to the parent (for the privilege of being born), and then to the siblings and extended families but the network expands constantly and changes all the time.
GE
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Family Ties
[QUOTE=Carmex]
Kinship does not apply to outsiders. Tourists are fair game when it comes to pricing, however, should that same person be applied to a family (this is my friend/brother/whatever) then kinship should apply and they should get a fair price.\
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Couldnt agree more on this. After spending some time in a small province on Bohol, the prices I paid for almost everything dropped dramatically once the locals learned I was married to one of their own.
I dont get upset at the inflated pricing charged, most things sold in sari sari stores etc only carry a 1 - 5 peso profit at best so is a few extra pesos can make a difference to someones life well so be it.
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Definition Of Player…..
Read a sad story in the paper today. About a Filipina committing suicide as she arrived in Manila from the province only to find her husband fulfilling his sexual needs elsewhere.
It made me think about those poor Filipino guys who fuck the same girls we PAY to fuck….makes no sense. A prominent rapper once asked a question in one his songs. What is the definition of a player? The guy who is wealthy or in a position of power and attracts women this way or the guy who doesn't have a dollar to his name but still attracts women?
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beach holiday plus
My girlfriend and I would like to spend a month living on the beach somewhere. We would also like a bisexual girl or two to live with us to share our fantasy of having a harem to have fun with. A non-stop feast of pleasure with good food, good wine and great sex.
Any advice on location, how to find the girls, prices and so on would be greatly appreciated.
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Beach Holiday
[QUOTE=Spanish Main]My girlfriend and I would like to spend a month living on the beach somewhere. We would also like a bisexual girl or two to live with us to share our fantasy of having a harem to have fun with. A non-stop feast of pleasure with good food, good wine and great sex.
Any advice on location, how to find the girls, prices and so on would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
You may want to research the beaches of Boracay. Its a tourist area with a lot of potential things you may want to do. Another great location is Cebu and Davao. You can get them cheap and most of them will tend to agree on your fantasies. Going closer to Luzon or Manila will minimize your chances. You can try Subic bay in Luzon but its going to be hard.
Enjoy you stay.
Tabolitz
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Bi's
[QUOTE=Spanish Main]My girlfriend and I would like to spend a month living on the beach somewhere. We would also like a bisexual girl or two to live with us to share our fantasy of having a harem to have fun with. A non-stop feast of pleasure with good food, good wine and great sex.
Any advice on location, how to find the girls, prices and so on would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like the plot for an excellent wet dream, SM:D.
You will have little problem finding the beach (Philippines = 7,000+ islands), but you may find it a little harder finding a Pinay bisexual or two to share your desert island fantasy. There doesn't seem to be many Filipina's around who openly admit to be bi. You will certainly find more girls to fit your requirements in Thailand than here.
That said, I do know a couple of genuine bi's, but being party animals, I doubt whether they would enjoy being stuck on a isolated beach, out of circulation, for a month. However if you decided on Boracay, they might just be interested, if you made it worth their while.
PM me if you want further details. GH
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Inflated prices
Reminds me of a bus trip I took a long time ago from outside Heritage Hotel to Puerto Azul.
We set off and conducter came round to collect the fares.
Price for my wife was something like P150 peso, and price for me (being clearly foreign) was P500.
My wife being Filipina was horrified that her husband was being ripped off so blatantly. Conductor dumbly stated that the price for my "seat" was P500. So we switched seats. Poor guy had no justification in his argument with my wife as to why I should be paying so much more. She ended the conversation by stating that she hoped if the conductor and whoever ran the bus company ever got out of the Philippines, that he would be mercilessly ripped off in whatever country he was in based on the colour of his skin. Rest of passengers applauded I remember. We took the trip back via another bus company. Each of us paying exactly the same fare as the other.
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[QUOTE=Spanish Main]My girlfriend and I would like to spend a month living on the beach somewhere. We would also like a bisexual girl or two to live with us to share our fantasy of having a harem to have fun with. A non-stop feast of pleasure with good food, good wine and great sex.
Any advice on location, how to find the girls, prices and so on would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Hey you double posted in two sections! hehe
I gave my opinion in the general section to your question.
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Ouch!! I've heard of dick burn but this is ridiculous
I know she is not a Filipina but when I read the story I thought that is the kind of thing a scorned Pinay might try. If you play around, hide the lighter fuel :D.
[url]http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24877650-5006787,00.html[/url]
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Dont send money!
This is a story about a Japanese guy who visited and rented one of our aprtments outside Manila this past few weeks.
His gf is filipina whom he met in Japan 3 years earlier. Hes been sending her money and has visited several times.
His GF rented our apt for 4000 peso for 3 weeks. Then loaded the place with tv, fridge furniture etc all on the BF's tab. (told BF it was 10,000)
Things seemed cool the Japanese played cards with my father in law and all seemed well. Except she has lesbian GF and gay ladyboy posing as her relatives, all hanging out and leaching from Japanese guy. He gets wind that they ripping him off and hides his cash.
They go balistic and attack him and lay a beating on his ass, they then try to enlist the neighbours to extort money from him and have got their local police contacts assisting them.
Fortunately for the Japanese my father in law shows up and pulls the gays off him and intervenes with the police using the Barangay official and the neighbours, standing up and give evidence. The police had taken him into custody but they were able to get him out.
Hes now getting death threats etc. He was shaking like a leaf. Lucky for him he is in heighbourhood of decent people and a neighbour who could speak Japanese. Turns out this scam artist has 3 bf's all sending money. This could have turned out alot worse for this guy. Moral of the story. Be careful and don't send money unless you really know who you are dealing with.
Be safe
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]I know she is not a Filipina but when I read the story I thought that is the kind of thing a scorned Pinay might try. If you play around, hide the lighter fuel :D.
[url]http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24877650-5006787,00.html[/url][/QUOTE]
Good God...She is an Indian women...Rajini Narayanan..High Caste from southern part of India...I just wrote in Living in the Philiphines thread how we Indian men suffer forcefull marriage due to our customs and had to endure Indian women for life for that reason we monger and run away to the Philiphines..:)
Guys...you dont wanna know how much an Indian guy suffers in all front be it in marriage or going out mongering and facing descrimination....we are cock blocked in and out :)
For all Indian mongers, I say it again....Only place you would be respected is east asia more so in the Philiphines....There is no salvation on this earth for a horny Indian monger except Philiphines and east asian women.
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4000 pesos for 3 weeks?
Is that per day or per week or per 3 weeks????
X
[QUOTE=Frank4220]This is a story about a Japanese guy who visited and rented one of our aprtments outside Manila this past few weeks.
His gf is filipina whom he met in Japan 3 years earlier. Hes been sending her money and has visited several times.
His GF rented our apt for 4000 peso for 3 weeks. Then loaded the place with tv, fridge furniture etc all on the BF's tab. (told BF it was 10,000)
Things seemed cool the Japanese played cards with my father in law and all seemed well. Except she has lesbian GF and gay ladyboy posing as her relatives, all hanging out and leaching from Japanese guy. He gets wind that they ripping him off and hides his cash.
They go balistic and attack him and lay a beating on his ass, they then try to enlist the neighbours to extort money from him and have got their local police contacts assisting them.
Fortunately for the Japanese my father in law shows up and pulls the gays off him and intervenes with the police using the Barangay official and the neighbours, standing up and give evidence. The police had taken him into custody but they were able to get him out.
Hes now getting death threats etc. He was shaking like a leaf. Lucky for him he is in heighbourhood of decent people and a neighbour who could speak Japanese. Turns out this scam artist has 3 bf's all sending money. This could have turned out alot worse for this guy. Moral of the story. Be careful and don't send money unless you really know who you are dealing with.
Be safe[/QUOTE]
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That was for 3 weeks.
[QUOTE=X Man]4000 pesos for 3 weeks?
Is that per day or per week or per 3 weeks????
X[/QUOTE]We had just redone it and wanted longterm tenant so 4000 peso for 3 weeks plus security deposit. Which was needed for the damage the crazies did to the door an window screens.
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This sounds too cheap for the usual travel destination - unless it is a dump.
I'm rather fond of the unusual travel destinations. Send me a pm.
I'll probably do the usual MNL / AC / Subic tour in March, but have several weeks to play with in July.
If it isn't already obvious, I'm not the longterm tenant you were hoping for.
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[QUOTE=Frank4220]We had just redone it and wanted longterm tenant so 4000 peso for 3 weeks plus security deposit. Which was needed for the damage the crazies did to the door an window screens.[/QUOTE]
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We aint in Sin City!
[QUOTE=X Man]This sounds too cheap for the usual travel destination - unless it is a dump.
I'm rather fond of the unusual travel destinations. Send me a pm.
I'll probably do the usual MNL / AC / Subic tour in March, but have several weeks to play with in July.
If it isn't already obvious, I'm not the longterm tenant you were hoping for.
X[/QUOTE]We live with the locals. The apts are relatively new and pretty nice for local standards.
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No Happy Ending In PI
met a girl while back on ym an accountant in cebu who was highly intelligent. i mean her intelligence/ knowledge of things, foreign politics, personal finance etc and her grasp of the english language was nothing like i had ever seen from a filipina.
one thing though she was extremely naïve and desperate for a foreign husband or mate as most filipinas are from poor backgrounds but here is the catch this girl was not poor. she is a manager at a prominent call center company. the money she is earning is grandiose for a single filipina especially in cebu. she has her own apartment and is mortgaging a house she is having built from scratch.
naïve to it hurts
she let a bum filipino from manila take her virginity. then after that she met me. we chatted for months. i was about to go see her when something came up...she was furious. that something was my ole lady in manila. she had money and was persistent. so she found out about the ole lady and the house. she was heartbroken and told me she was suicidal. i never touched her or promised her anything.
after that we continued to chat then she went quiet. i managed to get down to cebu to see another filipina i was chatting with a nurse and i thought i would try to catch her. she ignored my calls my text messages and what not.
i am trying to find out what’s going on her friends would not talk would not say shit. i check her friendster page and there she is with some fat white, i am pretty sure american guy standing behind her. he looks too goofy to be any other nationality.
i contact another one of her friends and find out she married the guy. turns out she knew the guy all along from a business trip she took to the states a while back. i warned her about being so easy after she offered to meet in thailand and stay with me. i was little bit taking back by her willingness to travel to a foreign country to meet a stranger she even bought my plane ticket to cebu. (because my credit card wouldn’t work on their website) i told her what if i am an axe-murderer you don’t know do you? she was more concerned with me [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her instead of killing her.... incredible.
so just like that after i fell out the picture she got married. they got married in april o8 now they are divorced turns out the guy was a nut job. a schizoid he accused her of stealing money, cheating on him etc… i mean a real work of art. she back right now here again chatting with me and heartbroken. i don’t know why but i am taking some type of morbid satisfaction in saying i told you so.
taken from yahoo messenger:
her: i should have taken my time choosing a husband.
her: i have so many regrets but things happen for a reason
her: he cheated on me 10 days after our wedding
her: yes but i am badly in debt right now
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Free, or just good sex?
Freebie
I was taking the Weesam ferry from Ormoc back to Cebu city. I usually prefer to sit on the top deck which is open air.
On this particular trip I noticed a lady wearing what some call hot pants. I’ll nickname her HotPants - HP. She was about 30, about 5ft., average looking and wearing a loose fitting blouse. I assumed the loose blouse was covering a bit of chubbiness.
She was to my right, across the aisle. I also noticed that she was sitting very near a Filipino gentleman of about 40. Since there were plenty of empty seats all around I assumed the close proximity of their seats meant that they were together.
I walked out onto the back, outside of the seating area, and was taking a few pictures. Out comes a very cute young lady…unfortunately followed by what appeared to be a younger brother. I greeted her, but she was a bit cool so I left it at that. Soon she was gone.
When I returned to my seat, HP was in the row directly behind my seat looking out at the scenery. Her stuff was still to my right. She was kneeling on the seats with her head out the window, and her very cute rear end was up in the air. I tried not to stare since I suspect her man might get upset. I glanced over at the guy and he seemed to be asleep. I glanced back over at her rear end. Very nice. She spent at least half of the two-hour trip in the row behind be. I thought maybe her and the man were having a little spat.
I probably wouldn’t have given her too much attention if she was in an AC club, but she was certainly doable, and this was nice and unexpected. Philippines…life is good. Little did I know that it was about to get better.
Docked in Cebu, and I was wrestling with my bag which had been stowed up against the bulkhead. I looked up and much to my surprise HP and the gentleman (both with much smaller bags) seemed to part ways without a word. They weren’t together after all. Duh, she’d been waving her gear right there in the row behind me and I hadn’t said a word to her the whole trip. Oh well, live and learn.
Out at the taxi stand I tried to avoid the guys trying to help me carry my bag and then the guys trying to help me find a taxi. I know they’re just trying to make some money, but I prefer to keep my hands on my bags – thanks anyway.
I paused for a moment surveying the taxi queue….which was positioned a bit down the way since the taxis up front had been hailed already. The Supercat, which had an earlier scheduled departure actually arrived after the Weesam ship and their location at the next pier meant the taxis had no incentive to move up to where I was now standing. I cursed my luck …for about one second….because as my gaze moved from taxi to my immediate surroundings, there she was, hot pants was a walking my way. The stars had aligned!
“Where are you going?”, I inquired.
“Mango Avenue”
“Me too, would you like to share a taxi?”, and so we did.
It’s about a 30 or 40 min ride. In the taxi I made small talk with her, but didn’t want to make it obvious to the taxi driver that we didn’t know each other. That may have been good strategy considering what happened. Although it was very obvious that I could take care of myself and knew where I was going, she offered to accompany me to my hotel. She did this in a way to make it sound as if she was trying to help out a poor lost tourist. I think she mentioned safety, etc. I suppose she was saving face with the taxi driver, or maybe she was just offering up some good fun in a slightly indirect way. Who knows.
I had every intention of paying for my ride and more for her to get home. But she insisted on covering half and got out with me at Holiday Plaza on Ramos Ave. I did my check in and up to the room we went. It seemed a bit awkward since I only then asked for her name. I turned on the TV and then suggested she sit down. She found a comfy seat on the bed (ignoring the chairs) and I sat down next to her. A bit more small talk (one kid) and at one point she puts her hand on my leg. She immediately pulls it off as if she had committed some faux pas. Well, at this point I’m wondering if that nice ass in the air, in the row behind, hadn’t been looking for some attention two hours earlier as we were passing the Camotes. I pulled her over and kissed her and within minutes we were passionately tearing off our clothes and fucking like there was no tomorrow.
After showering, I ask her to write down her phone number and email. This is not really because I want to keep in contact, but because I’d completely forgotten her name. It’s kind of a situation where you have a smirk, but also feel a bit guilty. Guilty about forgetting her name, that is.
For the “freebie” crowd I’ve now saved 40pesos on the taxi.
Being the gentleman that I am, I suggested we get something to eat.
Actually, I was hungry and could have cared less if she joined me or not. She did and we ate and I paid for that. I made some excuse and offered to pay for her taxi, but she said she could walk. And she did, and so did I.
Call it a freebie if you want, that just makes it sound cheap. I’ll remember my Weesam Hot Pants Adventure for the rest of my life – which is more than I can say for most of my barfines.
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[QUOTE=X Man]Freebie...
Call it a freebie if you want, that just makes it sound cheap. I’ll remember my Weesam Hot Pants Adventure for the rest of my life – which is more than I can say for most of my barfines.
X[/QUOTE]
Outstanding!
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PS To My Last Post. I Know We Scam The Girls Too But This Is Ridiculous
The guy I discussed in my last post was using her credit cards to go mongering. When I last talked to her she had a surplus of money and now she is in debt up to her eye balls. Lost her manager position because of the guy telling her she need to move to the states and now is starting from the bottom again. Dude where ever you are if you are reading this please do us all a favor and kill yourself.
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I here are some random shit from my experiences dealing with the Pinays.I may have said some of this in other posts over time, sorry for any redundancies.
DATING SITES: As far as the three dating sites i used: I found the best for marriage minded was Cherry Blossoms. They do the best job of weeding out the scamers. I wait at least a few days after girl signs signs up to CB before sending her a note, this way if she is active, there is a good chance that she has not tried to scam other men already. They also are allowed many pictures, so you get a good sense of how she really looks, not just her best picture that is on the front profile. Another great thing is it keeps a log of who has visited your profile and more importantly to me, it tells you how many times they have visited your profile. If a girl visits your profile 10 times in a couples of days, she is really into you. If she only visits once, and never replies to you or gives you a generic greeting, she just ain't in to you.
For girls that are borderline hookers or more for fun, there is Date In Asia. It is free, and it is barely regulated. It only allows one picture and has the most gays by far. If you are in town and looking to hook up fast, I would recommend DAI.
I found Fillipina Heart to be in the middle ground between girls for play and for marriage/ LTR. It is similar to CB, but not as well regulated. Overall I have had my most fun with it. The cost is about $25 a month, give or take a few bucks, same as CB.
Any other good dating sites, especialy free?
CONDOMS: I was amazed at the lack of use. I was there for 3 months on the last trip. I did the deed with 11 girls including one pro, and only 1 requested I put a condom on. All the girls were aged between 20-25 and childless.(that's my target market). If these girls remember from my profile, I wrote that I did not want any children. Most of these girls had college degrees, I don't know why they did not demand a condom. They had only know me for a short time, so they had no Idea if I got them pregnant if I would just disregard them.
None of them new that I had a vasectomy before my trip, best $1000 investment I ever made.
LEG HAIR: I am against it. Saw too much off it. Ladies, please shave.
SEX AND LIES: Over the last 3 years I have had semi regular contact with about 15-18 Pinays. I think Dragon Slayer said something to the effect of "all pinays are liars, all of them". Yep, yours is not different. Really, she isn't.
There are so many ways to test their honesty, 90 percent of them lied to me when it came to past or present relationships. (the other 10 percent I just didn't care enough to inquire). they don't think it is lying when they are dishonest about sex, because there culture is so Conservative. Most of the girls that spent time with me in my hotel, believe their parents think they are still virgins.
FRIENDSTER: It is the number one visited site in the Philippines, even beating Yahoo and Google. 90% of the girls have it. Once you get some basic information about a girl, find her freindster profile, it will have a lot pictures and information about her. MOST of the information will be truthfull, because all her friends and family will be reading it on occasion, so they don't want to be lie too much on it. Friendster is a great way to check her pictures to see if there are a bunch with her and a local Pinoy. Also, you check out her friends, see if they are mostly skankks, gays, or foreign men.
THE FAMILY: If you are overly polite and bring a gift (even a small one) the family will love you and basically force the girl to pick you as her boy freind/ or fiancee. The local boys have no manners and no money. The majority of the fathers I met acted like THEY wanted to blow me after I was kind enoght to bring them $15 worth of hard liquar. I swear, most fathers were unemployed and alchoholics. All of the girls have a shit load of younger sibblings living at the house, so spend $10 on a variety of candy, and they will also tell your gf that you are the perfect match for her.
They say the best girls you will not meet on the internet, but at least it is a starting point for those of us who only have a short vacation planned.
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Agreed!
Great post BB! I've also found that there is a thin line between "not interested" and stalker. Seems the more educated they are the less likely they are to say they love you in the first few chats. Of course, every single one has said she is a virgin, but most eventually admitted that they met 'except my first time, I'm a virgin"
My issue with meeting the people they way you mentioned is the "ahh okies" as I call them. I have aa very low tolerance for that. Which I really should relax some, but I can't. I started my pre trip research (haha) a little early this time (5 weeks) so I could weed out those that have nothing to say ("ahhhh I seeeeeeee, okies". But man there are ALOT of them out there!
Anyways, great post!
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[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]CONDOMS: I was amazed at the lack of use. I was there for 3 months on the last trip. I did the deed with 11 girls including one pro, and only 1 requested I put a condom on. All the girls were aged between 20-25 and childless.(that's my target market). If these girls remember from my profile, I wrote that I did not want any children. Most of these girls had college degrees, I don't know why they did not demand a condom. They had only know me for a short time, so they had no Idea if I got them pregnant if I would just disregard them.[/QUOTE]The Philippines is a Catholic country and Catholicism preaches no condom use but at the same time doesn't teach the consequences of sexual activity which results in a lot of teenage Filipino girls having condomless sex with their boyfriends and becoming pregnant. I have extended family who are Filipino and this is the case with their extended families in the Philippines.
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Searching For A Unicorn
[quote=james in japan]great post bb! i've also found that there is a thin line between "not interested" and stalker. seems the more educated they are the less likely they are to say they love you in the first few chats. of course, every single one has said she is a virgin, but most eventually admitted that they met 'except my first time, i'm a virgin"
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unicorn -a mythical animal usually depicted as a white horse with a single straight spiraled horn growing from its forehead.
been a lot of talk about virgins over the last few months. a filipina virgin of legal is age is something warbucks has never seen and i have been around filipinas in various countries for the last six years.
join warbucks on his quest to find one. not to fuck but really just to find one for general purpose. my travels have taken me from the go-gos of angeles (and will take me) to the jungles of davao. i have searched in the daytime with a flashlight and yet nothing.
met a sweet, cute little number from davao. a provincial “jungle” girl she had all the signs of a virgin. classic filipina demeanor. catholic school college girl outfit, very religious could not understand warbucks atheistic ways. somehow our last conversation turned to sex. now before she had told me she never had boyfriend. then she said she had one in manila who raped her. she didn’t want to but she agreed only because he promised to call her everyday :confused: this is the second filipina that has told me a story to this effect.
she asked was i ok with this or did i only want a virgin?
after she dropped this knowledge on me i felt let down not because i really cared about virginity or not it’s just that now i have to start my search all over again :(
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A decade too late?
Sorry for you DW, as I guess I got the last one 5 years ago :) .
A 29yo girl that I had known on/off for a few years already, and flirting with via email as she was a sales manager for one of the top resorts in the RP that I had visited a few times. She was 25 when I first met her and then devirginized her 4 years later.
I was not hitting on her, only being friendly.
One weekend I asked her to join me for scubadiving, we shared the same cabin, and I was mr. nice guy, again not hitting on her. But we discussed sex and she was curious about it. I noticed she was blushing a lot when we discussed it.
The following weekend - my last during that visit - she asked me to go to the cinema with her, and we went to my hotel for a coffee in the coffeeshop before she was to go home to QC. It became late, so I invited her to stay over - I could use the sofa while she the bed. However, no sofa in my room so we shared the bed - and it happened.
Whenever I am in Manila I call her and we have a night or two together during my 2-3 weeks stay. She knows that I am married, but she's in love, but I'm not. She is OK with being the querida at the age of 34. She loves sex, and claim that I am the only one she has been with. I like to believe her, as she is working 12-16 hours a day, 6 days a week.
Joking aside - the virgins are out there for you to find as well, but not by searching the net for her. When you befriend more regular filipinos, you will eventually find her among their friends.
My fFuBu friend has 6 close female friends, and 3 of them were virgins when married. I met 3 of her friends, and all were maganda. That is your regular girls - and there are millions of them - of legal age of cause.
Best of luck in your quest, or as they say; More Power :)
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]
A Filipina virgin of legal is age is something Warbucks has never seen and I have been around Filipinas in various countries for the last six years.
Join Warbucks on his quest to find one. Not to fuck but really just to find one for general purpose. My travels have taken me from the Go-Gos of Angeles (and will take me) to the jungles of Davao. I have searched in the daytime with a flashlight and yet nothing.[/QUOTE]
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Virgin
Daddy,
Read my report from my Manila trip from last weekend. Met a 26 year old virgin. And she was ready to give it up. I just had no time.
Also, you will see that all my activities are around the Fort area. Mongering heaven!
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Market! Market!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Daddy,
Read my report from my Manila trip from last weekend. Met a 26 year old virgin. And she was ready to give it up. I just had no time.
Also, you will see that all my activities are around the Fort area. Mongering heaven![/QUOTE]
Your activities around the Fort? I hope you are not talking about that Market /Market mall. I never have seen such rough looking Filipinos in my life, when I dropped into that place after checking out my new condo. It is right down the street. I thought I had been dropped back off in my old neighborhood in States looking at all the girls rude unsmiling and the guys wearing baggy clothes with their pants hanging off their ass giving me mean stares trying to intimidate untimidateable.
Maybe I am just use to shopping at the Greenbelt and Alabang don’t know :confused:
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[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]Your activities around the Fort? I hope you are not talking about that Market /Market mall. I never have seen such rough looking Filipinos in my life, when I dropped into that place after checking out my new condo. It is right down the street. I thought I had been dropped back off in my old neighborhood in States looking at all the girls dressed like sluts and the guys wearing baggy clothes with their pants hanging off their ass giving me mean stares trying to intimidate untimidateable.
Maybe I am just use to shopping at the Greenbelt and Alabang don’t know :confused:[/QUOTE]I arrange to meet them there.. most convenient to me as my condo is there...Only once picked up a gal from there.. was from Jag Jeans.
Check em out next time yr there!
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I arrange to meet them there.. most convenient to me as my condo is there...Only once picked up a gal from there.. was from Jag Jeans.
Check em out next time yr there![/QUOTE]
I also have a condo in the Fort area and Market2 is my local Mall. Just seems like an average Manila type mall to me with all the usual suspects. Certainly plenty of nice looking girls about when I've visited the place but I've always seemed to be too busy to have time to try any hook-ups there. However, this being the Philippines, I would not imagine it to be too difficult.
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Hunting around the Fort and Rockwell
Spent a lot of time at Market2 and consider it to be somewhat of a waste in terms of recruiting talent. Lots of bored teens. But have gotten the eye on occasion. Something about the place just doesn't feel right. The mall through Serendra is just too damn expensive. Any girl you meet there may have a low "go away potential. "
Basically, Rockwell and the Fort are on my no-go list for two reasons. 1st, it's among the wealthiest places in the country and any pussy there is likely to be expensive in more ways then you can possible imagine. 2nd, the folks who see you with some local movie star may get jealous and that is a clear violation of the keep a low profile rule. Remember, the senators coked out son who caps you with a. 45 out in front of Embassy will be on an all expense paid trip to Europe the next day. And return to the Philippines with all his sins forgiven in about 3 months.
Makati, while wealthy sees a lot of foreigners. Malate, while not so chic also sees a lot of foreigners. In these places you won't stand out too much. (though you are ALWAYS a target) Rockwell and the Fort are playgrounds for wealthy Filipinos. Who are a childish, pampered, and protected lot. I consider these people volatile and extremely dangerous.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]I also have a condo in the Fort area and Market2 is my local Mall. Just seems like an average Manila type mall to me with all the usual suspects. Certainly plenty of nice looking girls about when I've visited the place but I've always seemed to be too busy to have time to try any hook-ups there. However, this being the Philippines, I would not imagine it to be too difficult.[/QUOTE]
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Market! Market! The Fort.. Part Deux
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis]Spent a lot of time at Market2 and consider it to be somewhat of a waste in terms of recruiting talent. Lots of bored teens. But have gotten the eye on occasion. Something about the place just doesn't feel right. The mall through Serendra is just too damn expensive. Any girl you meet there may have a low "go away potential. ".[/QUOTE]
That’s exactly what I thought about the Market Market place. Could be due to all the squatter areas near by. Most Filipinos take pride in their appearance especially the ones that hang out in Manila. I saw a lot guys wearing hip hop gear which is cool and all for (might make a few enemies by saying this) “Black American people.” When others wear it they just look ridiculous.
“Very observant” Gamahucher said that nothing is out of order with the mall compared to other places :confused: This is the same guy who said I am a target in PI because of my designer clothes when if you read Filipino newspapers as I do daily you will notice a trend with the criminals most of the time they attack college students, women, old ass foreign men in other words weak targets.
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis]Makati, while wealthy sees a lot of foreigners. Malate, while not so chic also sees a lot of foreigners. In these places you won't stand out too much. (though you are ALWAYS a target) Rockwell and the Fort are playgrounds for wealthy Filipinos. Who are a childish, pampered, and protected lot. I consider these people volatile and extremely dangerous.[/QUOTE]
Did you hear about the incident at the golf course in Antipolo? What you said here describes that event perfectly.
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Please don't misquote me
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]
“Very observant” Gamahucher said that nothing is out of order with the mall compared to other places :confused: This is the same guy who said I am a target in PI because of my designer clothes when if you read Filipino newspapers as I do daily you will notice a trend with the criminals most of the time they attack college students, women, old ass Asian and white men in other words weak targets.
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Would appreciate it if you could refrain from misquoting me DW. If you read my post I actually said 'Just seems like an average Manila type mall to me with all the usual suspects', which it is, as far as I'm concerned. Of course, whereas I maybe see normal Filipino kids, you perhaps see something a little more sinister. But that is the difference between you and I.
If you are so concerned about 'squatters', why did you buy a condo so close to a squatter area? Squatters to me are poor, homeless folk struggling to make a living for themselves and their families. I am not referring to the lowlife scum you see begging in tourist areas. How do you see them? As vermin? That would be strange from a guy who never fails to remind us how he dragged himself up from the gutter by his bootstraps.
I will try to ignore you closing comments. From a professional black man who never fails to attack racial slurs and stereotyping, your opinion that white men are weak, almost verges on the bigoted.
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Old Means Weak Target....
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]
If you are so concerned about 'squatters', why did you buy a condo so close to a squatter area? Squatters to me are poor, homeless folk struggling to make a living for themselves and their families. I am not referring to the lowlife scum you see begging in tourist areas. How do you see them? As vermin? That would be strange from a guy who never fails to remind us how he dragged himself up from the gutter by his bootstraps.
I will try to ignore you closing comments. From a professional black man who never fails to attack racial slurs and stereotyping, your opinion that white men are weak, almost verges on the bigoted.[/QUOTE]
I said old men. As in old men are weak targets for criminals. You seem to miss the whole OLD word :) I will remove the references to race since that offended you. Not being bigoted. Just using the information I gathered from the Philippine Inquirer which I read daily and personal knowledge gathered from over 5 years hanging around PI.
If I am being bigoted towards the elderly then so be it.
How do I see squatter people? I see me in them. While the notorious American ghetto from which I was bred doesn’t quite compare to the squatters of the Philippines it is not far from it.
I am not at all concerned about the squatters there. Just like what happened my old neighborhood due to gentrification they will be removed sooner or later.
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]What is 'it'? It is that you must assume that a Filipina is not telling the truth if her lips are moving. That might sound cynical but I assure you that I have had 25 years of exposure to Pinays and Thai's (same general mindset), so have had plenty of time and experience to form my opinions.
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Is this not a stereotypical racist attack?
No hard feeling GH. I guess you pissed me off with your “These are the Losers” post on the Bangkok board because I knew you were referring to me and Nic Frenchy but I am going to leave this alone right about now.
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No hard feelings
Yes, now that you have edited your post (I referred to your original, unedited post which you can view as a quote in my report), I do see your meaning. I take it an 'old ass' black man would be safe from attack.
My comments about Thai and Filipina's were regarding nationality rather than race, but maybe you view them as synonymous. It was also meant to be tongue in cheek, but nonetheless, I will stand by these comments as long exposure to both Thai's and Filipina's, HAS, on the whole, made me extremely cynical as regards their verbal honesty. This is maybe just my opinion but from the tone of the many reports on this thread in particular, I doubt it.
Your final point, as you say, regards the Thai Forum, so I will ignore it unless you wish to take it up there.
No I have no hard feelings. These boards would soon become as boring as hell if we all had the same viewpoint and there were no disagreements. Its when they get personal, as has happened before with certain members, that the whole thing becomes sour and tedious for other board members.
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Already boring as hell to hear your groveling.
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What a pusy
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Yes, now that you have edited your post (I referred to your original, unedited post which you can view as a quote in my report), I do see your meaning. I take it an 'old ass' black man would be safe from attack.
My comments about Thai and Filipina's were regarding nationality rather than race, but maybe you view them as synonymous. It was also meant to be tongue in cheek, but nonetheless, I will stand by these comments as long exposure to both Thai's and Filipina's, HAS, on the whole, made me extremely cynical as regards their verbal honesty. This is maybe just my opinion but from the tone of the many reports on this thread in particular, I doubt it.
Your final point, as you say, regards the Thai Forum, so I will ignore it unless you wish to take it up there.
No I have no hard feelings. These boards would soon become as boring as hell if we all had the same viewpoint and there were no disagreements. Its when they get personal, as has happened before with certain members, that the whole thing becomes sour and tedious for other board members.[/QUOTE]
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“Overstand” Me
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Yes, now that you have edited your post (I referred to your original, unedited post which you can view as a quote in my report), I do see your meaning. I take it an 'old ass' black man would be safe from attack.
Your final point, as you say, regards the Thai Forum, so I will ignore it unless you wish to take it up there.
No I have no hard feelings. These boards would soon become as boring as hell if we all had the same viewpoint and there were no disagreements. Its when they get personal, as has happened before with certain members, that the whole thing becomes sour and tedious for other board members.[/QUOTE]
Dude you took my whole post wrong. Like I said “observance.” I didn’t say old ass black guys were immune to attack. I said that Filipino criminals tend to attack certain groups. I changed the words in my post because you took offense to what I wrote.
I didn’t say anything excessively negative about the squatter dwellers only maybe that’s why the inhabitants of the mall appeared rough compared to what I am use to seeing at other places such as the Greenbelt.
I am not taking a got damn thing to the Bangkok boards. What I should have done was ignored your post/“opinion” that I allowed to “get to me” in the first place but that’s a humanistic flaw that I have….
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Hair In The Wrong Places!
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]LEG HAIR: I am against it. Saw too much off it. Ladies, please shave[/QUOTE]
Have to agree with much of what you say BB; nice post!
In your travels, have you met any Pinays with extra hair growth around the upper lip area? Have seen more than a few that could use a little laser hair removal! Must be their Spanish heritage!
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[QUOTE=Gamahucher]I also have a condo in the Fort area and Market2 is my local Mall. Just seems like an average Manila type mall to me with all the usual suspects. Certainly plenty of nice looking girls about when I've visited the place but I've always seemed to be too busy to have time to try any hook-ups there. However, this being the Philippines, I would not imagine it to be too difficult.[/QUOTE]I've had some good success with shopgirls in Bonifacio Hgh street. And still sometimes date a lady who used to work in a sports store there. Also Jag Jeans as commented earlier.
Have a look at Che, she works in Starbucks in Market Market. Cute to the max. Anyways, maybe see you there one of these days! But for sure, Taguig has a plentiful supply. Keep them coming, and I will keep coming. LOL
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I've had some good success with shopgirls in Bonifacio Hgh street. And still sometimes date a lady who used to work in a sports store there. Also Jag Jeans as commented earlier.
Have a look at Che, she works in Starbucks in Market Market. Cute to the max. Anyways, maybe see you there one of these days! But for sure, Taguig has a plentiful supply. Keep them coming, and I will keep coming. LOL[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the hints, FF. I tend to use my little condo in Taguig as a bolt hole and fuck pad for those special Pinay friends who won't steal the cutlery;). So I've not done any real pussy hunting in the vicinity.
Its also a nice little earner. Got it let out at the moment to a bunch of tourists for 3 weeks, and it makes me a months mongering funds and some change.
Be nice to get together with you for a beer, next time you hit town.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Have to agree with much of what you say BB; nice post!
In your travels, have you met any Pinays with extra hair growth around the upper lip area? Have seen more than a few that could use a little laser hair removal! Must be their Spanish heritage![/QUOTE]
Funny, Mick Licker, the doyen of the Thai board, replied to a recent post on one of their threads, with a similar comment that Pinays were too hairy for him. Suprised me but I guess that, compared to the virtually bodily hairless Thai's, a few Filipina's might seem hirsute.
Have you ever had an Indian girl? Now they ARE hairy.
P.S What sort of asshole would misspell the word pussy. Even dyslexic mongers usually get that word correct.
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When bad news interrupts ...
Was having a great session with my favorite freebee Filipina, she was riding cowgirl and I was cupping both rather large breasts, when I noticed an odd lump under one. It was not a small lump, and was in the deep tissue of the breast. After popping, I mentioned it to her, and she naturally became a little alarmed. I could simply be a broken blood vessel, but she says her aunt lost a breast to cancer.
We are not in Phils - she is OFW here where I live, but she is scheduled to return home in a couple weeks. I told her to get it checked out asap, which she's promised to do.
If it turns out she has cancer, I'm gonna be in uncharted water in a hurry. The relationship has always been casual - I'm married and she is my happy mistress - but one can hardly walk away when your partner is stricken.
Uggh. Guess I'm just gonna have to wait for test results, and deal with facts rather than fears. Anyone been through something like this? Uggh (again).
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[QUOTE=Houziwang]Was having a great session with my favorite freebee Filipina, she was riding cowgirl and I was cupping both rather large breasts, when I noticed an odd lump under one. It was not a small lump, and was in the deep tissue of the breast. After popping, I mentioned it to her, and she naturally became a little alarmed. I could simply be a broken blood vessel, but she says her aunt lost a breast to cancer.
If it turns out she has cancer, I'm gonna be in uncharted water in a hurry. The relationship has always been casual. I'm married and she is my happy mistress. But one can hardly walk away when your partner is stricken.
Uggh. Guess I'm just gonna have to wait for test results, and deal with facts rather than fears. Anyone been through something like this? Uggh (again).[/QUOTE]I noticed that no one has answered you so I will. I've had my bout with cancer, and so far am winning. However, your best use here can be to provide her with facts about this carefully gleaned from internet.
Whatever her doctors tell her, and sorry to say, they generally arent that good in Manila except in St Lukes, shes going to be getting useless info from friends neighbours etc.
Get her to send you her medical results, biopsy scores etc. Research on net. And type in cancer and you will get 100 milliion hits. And hopefully you can find good advice for her.
All rich Filipinos go to Singapore HK and Us for treatments. Maybe she can't. But you can be a provider of good info for her. And much better than she might get from friends and well meaning family.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I noticed that no one has answered you so I will. I've had my bout with cancer, and so far am winning. However, your best use here can be to provide her with facts about this carefully gleaned from internet.
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Thanks for that. It is not the most pleasant topic, and really had us rattled for a few days. She has now seen three doctors here in Taiwan under her OFW health coverage. They've determined that she has harmless liquid-filled cysts, which is a huge relief, although that determination is not absolutely conclusive. She'll have a minor procedure in a few days to drain the largest one I detected. The liquid can later be examined for anything malignant, but we think she is good to go. Health care here is reasonably good, so we are not concerned on that front. She saw a team of two doctors, including one surgeon, during her last visit. She said they were very thorough and patiently explained everything to her in clear english.
Guys should read up on cysts in the breast, 'cause if you handle enough of them you are bound to run into this. Apparently 1 in 10 women, typically in their 30s and 40s, will form cysts like this. Anyway, we are already planning our next 3 hour romp, so all is well.
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[QUOTE=Houziwang]Was having a great session with my favorite freebee Filipina, she was riding cowgirl and I was cupping both rather large breasts, when I noticed an odd lump under one. It was not a small lump, and was in the deep tissue of the breast. After popping, I mentioned it to her, and she naturally became a little alarmed. I could simply be a broken blood vessel, but she says her aunt lost a breast to cancer.
We are not in Phils - she is OFW here where I live, but she is scheduled to return home in a couple weeks. I told her to get it checked out asap, which she's promised to do.
If it turns out she has cancer, I'm gonna be in uncharted water in a hurry. The relationship has always been casual - I'm married and she is my happy mistress - but one can hardly walk away when your partner is stricken.
Uggh. Guess I'm just gonna have to wait for test results, and deal with facts rather than fears. Anyone been through something like this? Uggh (again).[/QUOTE]Firstly, large breasts are more prone to 'mastitis' & lumps of a benign nature.
Secondly, a family history of breast cancer demands vigilant attention to ANY & EVERY breast lump.
I hope the biopsies are ok.
Good luck & god bless you both.
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Never trust a Filipina
That's the best advice I can give anyone.
They can outfuck a ten peckered billygoat but they will lie like a snake.
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[QUOTE=Blazepontaine]That's the best advice I can give anyone.
They can outfuck a ten peckered billygoat but they will lie like a snake.[/QUOTE]Damn. You must have met some really bad ones to give you this opinion. Been mongering/ living in Phils for past 25 years and can't say Id agree with you.
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[QUOTE=Blazepontaine]That's the best advice I can give anyone.
They can outfuck a ten peckered billygoat but they will lie like a snake.[/QUOTE]Mongers don't lie??? ;) hehehehehe! Pot meet kettle!
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Agreed
[QUOTE=Blazepontaine]That's the best advice I can give anyone.
They can outfuck a ten peckered billygoat but they will lie like a snake.[/QUOTE]Yes totally agree buddy! Just caution bros out there!!!!
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Typical text conversation with a Filipina
This is a text conversation from a girl I met at EDSA a few months ago and never barfined but only got her number. We texted a little at first but I had a girlfriend that watched me like a hawk so I never got to meet her. Shortly after we first met at EDSA she left to work in Japan as a nurse. I strongly doubt she went to Japan to be a nurse, she was one of the top looking EDSA girls and I think we all know what she was doing in Japan.
[quote]her: hi how are you? I'm vy, i'm in pasay now
me: i'm fine, how are you?
her: i'm fine llbit tired cuz i'm fly, how about u? everything good?
me: Yes, I thought you forgot about me
her: haha, i'm not. Not forgot u. Last time I textt but i didn't saw u answer
me: How is your family?
her: They good thank u. maybe i'll go out with u when u available :)
me: But you are so busy
her: I'm not busy yet I think :)
me I want to see u
her: When U want? if u want today i think after 8 cuz i go to my sister house get food for my grandfather and mom
me: Where do you want to meet?
her: Uhm, I don't know, where you want tell me and when i finish i'll come :)
me: Lets meet at the laundry place where I first met u by EDSA
her: OK i'll come[/quote]When we met up I had plans for a walk along Roxas blvd and a nice romantic dinner. However, she wanted to go straight to the hotel, a reqest to which I happily obliged. Met up with her again the next night for another round. She didn't ask for a single peso and even paid for the Sogo room! I've said it before and I'll say it again, never barfine an EDSA girl, just get her number and get a freebie the next day.
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[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]I here are some random shit from my experiences dealing with the Pinays.I may have said some of this in other posts over time, sorry for any redundancies.
DATING SITES: As far as the three dating sites i used: I found the best for marriage minded was Cherry Blossoms. They do the best job of weeding out the scamers. I wait at least a few days after girl signs signs up to CB before sending her a note, this way if she is active, there is a good chance that she has not tried to scam other men already. They also are allowed many pictures, so you get a good sense of how she really looks, not just her best picture that is on the front profile. Another great thing is it keeps a log of who has visited your profile and more importantly to me, it tells you how many times they have visited your profile. If a girl visits your profile 10 times in a couples of days, she is really into you. If she only visits once, and never replies to you or gives you a generic greeting, she just ain't in to you.
For girls that are borderline hookers or more for fun, there is Date In Asia. It is free, and it is barely regulated. It only allows one picture and has the most gays by far. If you are in town and looking to hook up fast, I would recommend DAI.
I found Fillipina Heart to be in the middle ground between girls for play and for marriage/ LTR. It is similar to CB, but not as well regulated. Overall I have had my most fun with it. The cost is about $25 a month, give or take a few bucks, same as CB.
Any other good dating sites, especialy free?
CONDOMS: I was amazed at the lack of use. I was there for 3 months on the last trip. I did the deed with 11 girls including one pro, and only 1 requested I put a condom on. All the girls were aged between 20-25 and childless.(that's my target market). If these girls remember from my profile, I wrote that I did not want any children. Most of these girls had college degrees, I don't know why they did not demand a condom. They had only know me for a short time, so they had no Idea if I got them pregnant if I would just disregard them.
None of them new that I had a vasectomy before my trip, best $1000 investment I ever made.
LEG HAIR: I am against it. Saw too much off it. Ladies, please shave.
SEX AND LIES: Over the last 3 years I have had semi regular contact with about 15-18 Pinays. I think Dragon Slayer said something to the effect of "all pinays are liars, all of them". Yep, yours is not different. Really, she isn't.
There are so many ways to test their honesty, 90 percent of them lied to me when it came to past or present relationships. (the other 10 percent I just didn't care enough to inquire). they don't think it is lying when they are dishonest about sex, because there culture is so Conservative. Most of the girls that spent time with me in my hotel, believe their parents think they are still virgins.
FRIENDSTER: It is the number one visited site in the Philippines, even beating Yahoo and Google. 90% of the girls have it. Once you get some basic information about a girl, find her freindster profile, it will have a lot pictures and information about her. MOST of the information will be truthfull, because all her friends and family will be reading it on occasion, so they don't want to be lie too much on it. Friendster is a great way to check her pictures to see if there are a bunch with her and a local Pinoy. Also, you check out her friends, see if they are mostly skankks, gays, or foreign men.
THE FAMILY: If you are overly polite and bring a gift (even a small one) the family will love you and basically force the girl to pick you as her boy freind/ or fiancee. The local boys have no manners and no money. The majority of the fathers I met acted like THEY wanted to blow me after I was kind enoght to bring them $15 worth of hard liquar. I swear, most fathers were unemployed and alchoholics. All of the girls have a shit load of younger sibblings living at the house, so spend $10 on a variety of candy, and they will also tell your gf that you are the perfect match for her.
They say the best girls you will not meet on the internet, but at least it is a starting point for those of us who only have a short vacation planned.[/QUOTE]I don't post much here, haven't ever even been to the Phils, but I thought this post was full of great info, and very useful.
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An old flame reappears
One of my all-time favorites was Pia, who I met in Tacloban a year and a half ago:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.in...8&postcount=573[/url]
We kept in touch for a while, afterwards, but then I lost track of her. She shut down her Friendster page and hadn’t visited her Facebook page in over a year. I figured she’d married a local trike driver and was busy popping out babies.
Then last week, completely out of the blue, I get a note from her on Facebook, asking how I’m doing. I answer back, “I’ll be in the Philippines in two weeks. Where are you at, these days?” Turns out she’s in Manila, working in a shop her sister has in one of the malls in Makati. The mall is only about a 30 minute walk from the hotel I stay at, when in Manila.
She’s encouraged me to drop by and say, “Hi”. You better believe I will!
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Gotta laugh
Had a heck of a weekend in Manila recently (trip report added). This included meeting a few ladies in a mall and taking them to Sogo.
One is a real homebody type and I remember we had reallly great sex. Was first class.
Anyways, today she and I are chatting on YM and shes telling me that her agenda for today is to go to church to pray for forgiveness. But she really enjoyed it and can we do it again.
Filipina philosophy 101. Loved doing what I did, but I'm supposed to feel bad, so if I go to church it will all be ok.
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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Anyways, today she and I are chatting on YM and shes telling me that her agenda for today is to go to church to pray for forgiveness. But she really enjoyed it and can we do it again.
Filipina philosophy 101. Loved doing what I did, but I'm supposed to feel bad, so if I go to church it will all be ok.[/QUOTE]
That is the beauty of the Catholic faith, you do whatever you like, however kinky and disgusting (am not saying shagging you FF is :D) and then see the priest and say sorry, a few amens etc and you can back and do it all over again
No guilt......lovely religion...or be like me, no religion and just have fun :D. But I do like the homebody girls who suddenly realise that shagging and being kinky is a lot more enjoyable than being conservative...their faces the first time are something to remember....
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Lazy? vs. Dating Girls with real jobs
[QUOTE=Illogic]
That being said yes it still is easier for me to meet women here than in the US but I am just losing my desire for the ones who don’t got a pot to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in and a window to throw it of. If you date or keep a fling that is broke more than likely her overall motivation for being involved with you is money. That’s fun and all but all that comes down to is another form of Pay for Play. While I know there are guys who say you pay for pussy no matter what I and I do believe this is true it’s nice to spend some time with woman who can buy her own damn cell phone which is such a popular sugar daddy gift now and days.[/QUOTE]
Even if they claim they have no money, I hear them say they can't work that job because it is too hard and doesn't pay enough money. Instead they spend there days watching TV and sleeping. Is it typical one person works and 5 stay home.
What is it like dating a girl w/ a real job that doesn't need you for your money. Are they eager to sleep w/ you or does the desire for sex go away when they have there own money?
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Like Women Everywhere
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]Even if they claim they have no money, I hear them say they can't work that job because it is too hard and doesn't pay enough money. Instead they spend there days watching TV and sleeping. Is it typical one person works and 5 stay home.
What is it like dating a girl w/ a real job that doesn't need you for your money. Are they eager to sleep w/ you or does the desire for sex go away when they have there own money?[/QUOTE]
Filipinas with money are just as bitchy and choosy as women are in the west only most of them still have that sweet "Filipina" femininity that we love so much. (That is what you want right? A "Choosy Lover" as the "Isley Brothers" so quaintly put it.) Filipinas (decent ones) on average make great life long partners. Some guys live in a delusional world and think it's ok to keep a partner who is only in it for financial reasons. To each his own but I just wouldn't be content with this arrangement.
Some guys just want to assuage their loneliness but that setup (uneducated poor, bar-girls) only creates more loneliness in the long term in my opinion.
Being a white guy you should not limit yourself to bar-girls especially in the third world. You sound like you are looking for a mate. So why limit yourself to the hookers you came here to improve your lot correct?
Check out the type of natives in SE Asia who keep Hookers as wives or girlfriends are you the same type of material? Are you cut from the same slice?
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[QUOTE=Illogic]Filipinas with money are just as bitchy and choosy like woman are in the west only most of them still have that sweet "Filipina" femininity that we love so much. (That is what you want right? A choosy lover as the "Isley Brothers" so quaintly put it.) They on average make great life long partners. Some guys live in a delusional world and think its ok to keep a partner who is only in it for financial reasons. To each his own but I just wouldn't be content with this arrangement.
?[/QUOTE]Have been with many girls who work. They are about the same as non working girls. Sex was the same, thats for sure and their kisses was just as sweet. Only difference being sometimes they had to go home early, or were late (stuck in meetings etc). But they certainly werent anything significantly different from the ladies who had job. And of course, having their own job, they never asked for $$.
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Dating Normal Women
It's actually pretty simple here to meet normal, reasonably well educated and employed women, many of whom still prefer Western guys. Speak to other expats who live in wherever you are, and ask their asawas to introduce you, or hang out at some of the universities. As long as you're not shy, and you're not going to be reduced to a pitiable state by being shot down every now and again, you should not have any problems at all.
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Dating Normal Women
Dating non bar girls sounds like a great idea. I am not shy so wouldn't have any problem talking to them at a college or a mall. I don't want to take them out 5 times before I get any booty though. For the guys who date normal women, how many dates has it taken to get them to bed? Yes, would prefer normal girls, with normal morals. I don't want a GF that I have to worry would cheat on me when I'm not watching. The laziness factor of these X-bar girls bothers me. They are very quick to ask for money and don't have any plans to go to work.
The first girl I ever slept with in the Phil was a non bar girl that I met at the mall, and of course she never asked me for money.
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All Depends...
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]Dating non bar girls sounds like a great idea. I am not shy so wouldn't have any problem talking to them at a college or a mall. I don't want to take them out 5 times before I get any booty though. For the guys who date normal women, how many dates has it taken to get them to bed? Yes, would prefer normal girls, with normal morals. I don't want a GF that I have to worry would cheat on me when I'm not watching. The laziness factor of these X-bar girls bothers me. They are very quick to ask for money and don't have any plans to go to work.
The first girl I ever slept with in the Phil was a non bar girl that I met at the mall, and of course she never asked me for money.[/QUOTE]
How long it takes depends on the girl, the circumstances and the chemistry, but it's been my experience that it doesn't take more than one or two dates.
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Are all Pinays nuts?
Met one on DIA, in SIN, first date she starts talking marriage & kids. Stays overnight, but no sex until morning. 2nd date, stayed over again. Really bad sex. I didn't think sex COULD be bad except for with wife. Started hitting me up for big $ to "help her get her SIN work visa." Started getting hysterical when I booted her out and told her we just weren't meant for each other.
Picked up another at an Orchard Tower pinay bar. Excellent massage, good cowgirl, BBBJ but no CIM. Very inexpensive - S$100 but could have paid less with no complaint from her. Invited her back 2x, again for pay. Really good massage followed by a rocking good fuck. After, while watching TV, she phones a friend to tell her she's with her boyfriend. Boyfriend? WTF? I have to tell her I'm paying for a massage and a quality intra-vaginal dick massage. Next day she's constantly texting - "Miss you!" "Luv you!"
Are they all nuts or am I on a bad streak?
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[QUOTE=Ebauche]Are they all nuts or am I on a bad streak?[/QUOTE]Bad streak and you're nuts for paying too much :D ... but we've all paid too much from time to time.
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[QUOTE=Darth Sushi]Bad streak and you're nuts for paying too much :D ... but we've all paid too much from time to time.[/QUOTE]
Didn't pay the DIA nutjob a cent.
For the other, $100 Singapore is a pretty damn good rate in Singapore for 3-4 hours, an excellent massage, and 2-3 pops.
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Dating Normal Women
From my limited experience, I have met up with a number of non P4P women in the Philippines.
Probably more than half were working in dcent jobs, and have some decent education. I prefer these, because there is good conversation in addition to good sex.
A fw have been very inexperienced, or virgins, but most have had some kind of relationship before.
They are very eager to please, generally will try anythng, and never ask for a peso.
If I think they are short of money, I wil give them some as they leave, always to buy something for their mother,sister,kid or whatever.
Only a fw hav been nuisances, very hard to get rid of, two memorable ones spring to mind.
So go for it. Try them out.
I think there were only a few who did not jump into the pit on our first time together. Many of them were only interested in getting into bed and gettting at it as soon as they could. Some as quickly as ten minutes or so.
Just show respect and interest in them.
G
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Dating Normal Women - 2 standards?
Wow, I need to date more normal women, if they are that interested in sex.
Are these girls as quick getting in bed with the local penays? or is just the poriegners?
I only went out w/ one non bar girl which I met at the mall. She was 20 and very nice looking. We went straight back to my room as were in the bed immediately. She didn't leave for 3 days until finally sent her home. It was my first time in AC and I wanted to sample everything else. I was in Manila for a day and she came over in the morning and jumped in the bed immediately. I think I made her eat breakfast first though.
So is it an all or nothing thing with these girls? If they like you enough to go out, do they want to sleep with you?
I guess the local guys can't be getting it this easy or else there would not be any virgins?
Do the local guys resent us?
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[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]I guess the local guys can't be getting it this easy or else there would not be any virgins?
Do the local guys resent us?[/QUOTE]Its all about the money even with the local girls. Some want the sex. But most figure you a great catch. Especially compared to the locals.
And HELL YEAH the local guys resent us. Wouldn't you, Why do you think they take such joy in giving a foreigner a beat down, at the slightest reason.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]How long it takes depends on the girl, the circumstances and the chemistry, but it's been my experience that it doesn't take more than one or two dates.[/QUOTE]Been my expereince too. Last visit to Manila. (see trip report) met two girls on successive days. We had never met before but had exchanged some sms.
Met in mall. Had a coffee / beer whatever with them, then we walked to my car and drove to motel. Neither of them asked where we were going. Gave one a P300 Smart load and the other P200 so she had taxi to go home and taxi money to meet me again.
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The problem with local guys their own age is a private place. They don't have the back seat of a car! Unless she uses money from you, the foreigner, they cannot afford a ST motel room. If she hangs out with a BF for one week, they might find a room of their own to use once. But don't kid yourself--they do have sex with guys who speak their native language and enjoy the same music.
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]Wow, I need to date more normal women, if they are that interested in sex.
Are these girls as quick getting in bed with the local penays? or is just the poriegners?
I guess the local guys can't be getting it this easy or else there would not be any virgins?
Do the local guys resent us?[/QUOTE]
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I don't have any experience with the Pinays living in the Philippines. But all the ones I know and have been with all say the same things. That most "White guys" are better in bed (I assume it would also mean a person from any race from the west too). They said most Pinoys are simple and conservative in bed, boom boom and they done without regard to the woman. So even if they are from conservative parts of the Phils they will still know the allure of foreigners as good lovers.
I think its a perfect match as the Pinays I have been with were very passionate lovers, they just needed someone to show them.
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Pinoys Missionary only?
[QUOTE=Neon Noodle]I don't have any experience with the Pinays living in the Philippines. But all the ones I know and have been with all say the same things. That most "White guys" are better in bed (I assume it would also mean a person from any race from the west too). They said most Pinoys are simple and conservative in bed, boom boom and they done without regard to the woman. So even if they are from conservative parts of the Phils they will still know the allure of foreigners as good lovers.
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Yes, the girls I've been out with have complained that the Pinoys (I guess this is a guy and Pinay is a girl?) are boring and just do it missionary style. These girls compare notes about sex w/ their girl friends and if the poreigner is boring they'll say this. As my girlfriend told me this one white guy her friend was dating only did it in missionary and they joked he was just like a Filipino guy, which was an insult.
Have any of you heard that Pinoys only do it in Missionary?
I agree, it's a great situation: they are young and eager to learn and I am older and experienced and glad to give free lessons!
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dating Non "pros"
[QUOTE=Gangles]From my limited experience, I have met up with a number of non P4P women in the Philippines.
Probably more than half were working in dcent jobs, and have some decent education. I prefer these, because there is good conversation in addition to good sex.
A fw have been very inexperienced, or virgins, but most have had some kind of relationship before.
They are very eager to please, generally will try anythng, and never ask for a peso.
If I think they are short of money, I wil give them some as they leave, always to buy something for their mother,sister,kid or whatever.
Only a fw hav been nuisances, very hard to get rid of, two memorable ones spring to mind.
So go for it. Try them out.
I think there were only a few who did not jump into the pit on our first time together. Many of them were only interested in getting into bed and gettting at it as soon as they could. Some as quickly as ten minutes or so.
Just show respect and interest in them.
G[/QUOTE]
Getting non pros is sometimes easier than the pro's, just got to know where to look and who to look at. Let's face it, we're talking age limits, personally, in my mongering days I preferred those ages 25 to 30 for a lot of reasons. First being by age 25 MOST (?) women have the silliness out of them and their personalities are fully developed, what you get with of a 28 Y.O teacher, dentist or bank clerk is what you are going get for the rest of her life. Also, you are probably going to get a woman who is sexually experienced and who is scientifically proven to be at her sexual peak at age 30+.
Now some of spamhog's proven techniques are simple, first, stay the hell away from Angeles city and concentrate on areas that are not known for being the worlds brothel.
Gyms are a great place to meet profesisonal women, not the most expensive spa in town but a local gym that has an evening or daytime Tae Bo class, you will see the nurses, teachers, bank clerks and other professional ladies in droves.
second, look in areas where the mainstream ladies gather, a small calderita next to a bank, hospital, school at lunch or quitting time, get to know the uniforms and what they mean. The food will be awful but a great attention getter. "I'm trying to learn to eat Filipino food" said with a shy smile gets the conversation going.
I know of a calderita inside Cebu's business park that is filled every lunch hour with ladies who work in tech jobs and outsourced call centers. My big ugly mug attracts a lot in interest even with my personal guard dog Mrs Spamhog alongside. I have taken two board members into that place and they can attest to the volume of females, they could have done well on follow ups if alone judging from the interest.
Banks and hardware stores, find those not so busy, do business with them frequently and make friends with the clerks and tellers.
Remember that mainstream Filipinas don't like the "foreign monger" or monger attitude, give some other plausible reason why you are in the Phils other than racking up a score.
Good luck
Spamhog
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dating Non "pros"
[QUOTE=Spam Hog]I know of a calderita inside Cebu's business park ...[/QUOTE]LOL, goat roping in a calderita! :D
Spam Hog is right about getting the hell away from Angeles. Whenever I argue with a non-pro, the accusation of mongering always pops up and being in or near Angeles doesn't help her paranoia.
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[QUOTE=Darth Sushi]LOL, goat roping in a calderita! :D
Spam Hog is right about getting the hell away from Angeles. Whenever I argue with a non-pro, the accusation of mongering always pops up and being in or near Angeles doesn't help her paranoia.[/QUOTE]
The Goat you rope may indeed be someones lunch.....
Spamhog
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Sick? Cost of Drs in the Philippines?
I had a girl from Samar that I am friends with tell me she is very sick w/ fever. Said she recently had blood coming out of her nose when she blew it. She was scared she may have Dengue Fever. I told her not to use aspirin since it's a blood thinner, to use Tylonol. Anyway she tells me she went to a Dr. and it costs 2000P. I balked and said that sounds like a lot of money. She said they checked everything. I said what did they give you. She said that medicine you told me about referring to Tylonol. I said didn't he give you anything else, she said yes a liquid, but she didn't know the name. She said she is getting better but of course wants money. Isn't 2000P a ton of money to visit a Dr in Samar? I can remember Drs costing 600P. Could this be true or is this just BS, trying to get money?
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Dr. Fees
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2] Isn't 2000P a ton of money to visit a Dr in Samar? I can remember Drs costing 600P. Could this be true or is this just BS, trying to get money? [/QUOTE]Big J,
My one and hopefully only visit to a doc. In the Philippines was in Kabankalan, Negros Occidental. I had many very painfull blisters covering my back from being in the sun too long. The Doc. Said they were 2nd Degree burns. Guess it didn't help that I used full tanning oil (No SPF).
I was charged 500P for her service. No happy ending LOL. She prescribed a ointment which I had to purchase from a pharmacy also cheap 200P. I know I paid regular rates. The ex wifey took me to see the doc. I'd say 2000P is a lot, but she probably adding a few pesos onto that number. You know for the trike ride etc.
Tell her to go see one of those quack doctors only 150P.
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DEngue
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]I had a girl from Samar that I am friends with tell me she is very sick w/ fever. Said she recently had blood coming out of her nose when she blew it. She was scared she may have Dengue Fever. I told her not to use aspirin since it's a blood thinner, to use Tylonol. Anyway she tells me she went to a Dr. and it costs 2000P. I balked and said that sounds like a lot of money. She said they checked everything. I said what did they give you. She said that medicine you told me about referring to Tylonol. I said didn't he give you anything else, she said yes a liquid, but she didn't know the name. She said she is getting better but of course wants money. Isn't 2000P a ton of money to visit a Dr in Samar? I can remember Drs costing 600P. Could this be true or is this just BS, trying to get money?[/QUOTE]
If it is dengue, it could well cost P2000 or more. One of Spamhog's nieces came down with dengue last year and it cost me P5,000, of course an overnight hospital room in Cebu was included. The treatment goes for several days including the serum for dengue which is relatively costly.
Dr. visits in the PI range from P200 to P500, medicine can be expensivve depending on what treatment is. P2000 for a simple fever seems a bit much.
Spamhog
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Last summer, I went to the emergency room once in Davao. Had 4 or 4 hot nurses checking my temp, blood pressure, ect. I then saw the doctor for a few minutes, gave him some story, and he gave me a prescription for the medicine I wanted. Cost without medicine was about 14 USD.
Did basicaly (minus the hot nurses, and a much longer wait) the same thing in Makati a month later. Cost without medicine was about 20 USD.
The reason I went was that I could not find over the counter sleep medicine. (Exedrin P.M, or Simply Sleep anywhere in the country. The pharmacist had never heard of sleeping pills and recommended I go to the emergency room. The doctors did not have any either, so they gave strong drugs instead, when all i wanted was pills I buy at the 7 eleven all the time in the US.
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Not Here...
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]Last summer, I went to the emergency room once in Davao. Had 4 or 4 hot nurses checking my temp, blood pressure, ect. I then saw the doctor for a few minutes, gave him some story, and he gave me a prescription for the medicine I wanted. Cost without medicine was about 14 USD.
Did basicaly (minus the hot nurses, and a much longer wait) the same thing in Makati a month later. Cost without medicine was about 20 USD.
The reason I went was that I could not find over the counter sleep medicine. (Exedrin P.M, or Simply Sleep anywhere in the country. The pharmacist had never heard of sleeping pills and recommended I go to the emergency room. The doctors did not have any either, so they gave strong drugs instead, when all i wanted was pills I buy at the 7 eleven all the time in the US.[/QUOTE]
You cannot buy Excedrin PM here, or at least I've never seen it. I usually ask people coming back here from the States to bring me a large bottle when I start to run out.
GE
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Over the counter medicine
[QUOTE=Bob Bowie]Last summer, I went to the emergency room once in Davao. Had 4 or 4 hot nurses checking my temp, blood pressure, ect. I then saw the doctor for a few minutes, gave him some story, and he gave me a prescription for the medicine I wanted. Cost without medicine was about 14 USD.
Did basicaly (minus the hot nurses, and a much longer wait) the same thing in Makati a month later. Cost without medicine was about 20 USD.
The reason I went was that I could not find over the counter sleep medicine. (Exedrin P.M, or Simply Sleep anywhere in the country. The pharmacist had never heard of sleeping pills and recommended I go to the emergency room. The doctors did not have any either, so they gave strong drugs instead, when all i wanted was pills I buy at the 7 eleven all the time in the US.[/QUOTE]Unless it is a controlled substance, you can buy most of your medicines at the pharmacy without a doctor's prescription. This includes most antibiotics that would require one in the USA Often the problem is that they don't know the USA Brand names, but have similar under different names. They don't seem to package or brand any medicine the way it is done in the States. I generally look up the medication on the internet and take in the formula, most pharmacists with this information can give you similar, usually sold by the pill, rather than by a bottle. Looked up Excedrin, see this link:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excedrin[/url]
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Pregnancies & Pregnancy Scams
I hear Pregnancy Scams are very common in the Philippines. I've heard many girls try to get pregnant to get money from their western men. Also heard they fake pregnancies when their men are not there to exhort money. What is a man required to pay if he gets a girl pregnant in the Philippines? Any child support laws? I always keep my condoms on, but it makes things more difficult if they want to get pregnant.
If you've had any experiences with this or have advice I'd like to know. Thanks.
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Playing For Keeps
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]I hear Pregnancy Scams are very common in the Philippines. I've heard many girls try to get pregnant to get money from their western men. Also heard they fake pregnancies when their men are not there to exhort money. What is a man required to pay if he gets a girl pregnant in the Philippines? Any child support laws? I always keep my condoms on, but it makes things more difficult if they want to get pregnant.
If you've had any experiences with this or have advice I'd like to know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
A Manye be careful SE Asian women play for keeps. This is one of the reasons Filipinas allow Westerners to go bareback (the other reason is ignorance of STDS) Always use a condom and when done make sure it is flushed down the toilet I read the sad tale of one ISGer who after using the condom and throwing it in the trash the WG got the condom out of trash and stuffed it in her pussy. Nine months later he gets a email that he has a bunddle of joy he now has to take care of for 18 years.
As for child support laws there are laws in place to make an American pay for abandoning a child overseas but you talking about Embassies, Lawyers an international case etc...The average Filipina would not have the means to fight something like this in the court system. That being said would you want to leave a destitute woman with child?
Protect your personal health and financial health. Let's say the average child support payment in the States is $500. (20% of your income) After 18 years (typical length of a child support contract) this comes out a whopping $108,000. We know most of you guys don't have this type of money to give away as some of you can barely afford the airfare, always staying at SOGOs and going to places like the Cafe to avoid Go-Go prices..:D
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[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]I hear Pregnancy Scams are very common in the Philippines. I've heard many girls try to get pregnant to get money from their western men. Also heard they fake pregnancies when their men are not there to exhort money. What is a man required to pay if he gets a girl pregnant in the Philippines? Any child support laws? I always keep my condoms on, but it makes things more difficult if they want to get pregnant.
If you've had any experiences with this or have advice I'd like to know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that is a scam like lots of others
If you think you are the victim or target of a pregnancy scam a quick way to end it or settle it is thus. Tell the girl you do not beleive it is yours and that you will take her to a laboratory in Cebu for a paternity test which will prove the perantage. That will usually run off the obvious scammers. Should she not balk, such a thing is available.
I personally would not give her money "for a doctor", medicine or what ever, I would tell her no, But I will take you to the doctor and I will pay the bill for the exam.
As for Support laws yes there are laws in the PI about support. If you return to the USA or elsewhere she can go to your embassy and file a case there the burden of proof is upon her...BUT such an endeavor takes a lot of money, lawyers etc. Most Filipinas don't have the financial wherewithal....sad in some instances.
Spamhog
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[QUOTE=Illogic]As for child support laws there are laws in place to make an American pay for abandoning a child overseas but you talking about Embassies, Lawyers an international case etc...The average Filipina would not have the means to fight something like this in the court system. That being said would you want to leave a destitute woman with child?
Protect your personal health and financial health. Let's say the average child support payment in the States is $500. (20% of your income) After 18 years (typical length of Child support contract) this comes out a whopping $108,000. We know most of you guys don't have this type of money to give away as some of you can barely afford the airfare, always staying at SOGOs and trying to knock freelancers down to the lowest price....:D[/QUOTE]Yes but I only stay at Sogo for the 3 hour minimum.
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[QUOTE=Spam Hog]Yeah that is a scam like lots of others
If you think you are the victim or target of a pregnancy scam a quick way to end it or settle it is thus. Tell the girl you do not beleive it is yours and that you will take her to a laboratory in Cebu for a paternity test which will prove the perantage. That will usually run off the obvious scammers. Should she not balk, such a thing is available.
I personally would not give her money "for a doctor", medicine or what ever, I would tell her no, But I will take you to the doctor and I will pay the bill for the exam.
As for Support laws yes there are laws in the PI about support. If you return to the USA or elsewhere she can go to your embassy and file a case there the burden of proof is upon her...BUT such an endeavor takes a lot of money, lawyers etc. Most Filipinas don't have the financial wherewithal....sad in some instances.
Spamhog[/QUOTE]
Actually, it's very tough for anyone here to come after a European or US citizen for paternity. For one thing, in both cases, the father must acknowledge paternity, and under US/European law, he has no obligation to do so. For another thing, you cannot be coerced into DNA testing, so there's really very little the girl can do unless the father has signed the birth certificate acknowledging paternity. The Embassy's job in this case is to protect its citizens. This is perhaps unfair, but it's the way it is.
As to child support laws here they, like all other laws here, are not enforced. If they were, the population of bar girls would be reduced substantially, as they would no longer have to screw for money since the useless guys who knocked them up wouldn't be able to flee. Also, there's little here in the way of computerized databases so it's difficult, and usually impossible to track a father's whereabouts, find out if he's working, finding out what he's earning, etc.
GE
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Fuckery
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Yes but I only stay at Sogo for the 3 hour minimum.[/QUOTE]
A Freebie no offense bruh just simple fuckery...
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fuckery[/url]
The Sogos are great for short time liaisons. No passport needed, no ID, no pre-booking, only pay and go and you save a hell of a lot money (can never clown a man for saving money) I mean no sense in taking a LA Cafe girl to a 5 star hotel :D Then again most of the girls I have encountered have been to all of them anyway :D
I just feel uncomfortable in the Sogos but no knock to the guys who continue to use and enjoy their services. I think I will utilize the Pearl Manila in this manner from now. Have not stayed there in 5 years but it was nice and cheap when I did....
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1 out of 10 will try This
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]I hear Pregnancy Scams are very common in the Philippines. I've heard many girls try to get pregnant to get money from their western men. Also heard they fake pregnancies when their men are not there to exhort money. What is a man required to pay if he gets a girl pregnant in the Philippines? Any child support laws? I always keep my condoms on, but it makes things more difficult if they want to get pregnant.
If you've had any experiences with this or have advice I'd like to know. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Like others have said here this is a common problem and no girl wants to loose a walking ATM. You go out hard charging every night and stay around a while this BS will find you for sure. Note, they never try it with there Flip bf, or a next door neighbor STRANGE HA.
Keep the cash close.
B. B.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Actually, it's very tough for anyone here to come after a European or US citizen for paternity. For one thing, in both cases, the father must acknowledge paternity, and under US/European law, he has no obligation to do so. For another thing, you cannot be coerced into DNA testing, so there's really very little the girl can do unless the father has signed the birth certificate acknowledging paternity. The Embassy's job in this case is to protect its citizens. This is perhaps unfair, but it's the way it is.
As to child support laws here they, like all other laws here, are not enforced. If they were, the population of bar girls would be reduced substantially, as they would no longer have to screw for money since the useless guys who knocked them up wouldn't be able to flee. Also, there's little here in the way of computerized databases so it's difficult, and usually impossible to track a father's whereabouts, find out if he's working, finding out what he's earning, etc.
GE[/QUOTE]
I concur. Even if a girl files for child support in a embassy, the embassy will not take any action. Embassy has seen all these scams many times, besides the child support is a civil matter. Taking responsibility and providing support is purely voluntary on the part of the assumed father.
It is next to impossible for foreign citizens to claim for child support from US citizens unless they are living in USA.
My advice would be if you really want to help the girl do it out of your goodness of heart. Couple of hundred dollars a month will do.
Do not try to get patternity tested as it will be considered a legal document proving you are the father and liable. However no foreign person will have your wages garnished to pay child support. Those things are court ordered in USA.
It is possible the that if the girl has patternity tested proof that you are the father she can go to local court for child support and you can be detained on arrival to the country.
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1 out of 10 might be underestimating! Don't trust 'em!
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]Like others have said here this is a common problem and no girl wants to loose a walking ATM. You go out hard charging every night and stay around a while this BS will find you for sure. Note, they never try it with there Flip bf, or a next door neighbor STRANGE HA.
Keep the cash close.
B. B.[/QUOTE]
After leaving the PI I have had a weirder set of experiences than I could have imagined. I'll make it short because I know everyone here is busy, busy. Just be careful......:
Hooked up with a sweet FL ("M")the last few weeks, and treated her nice. Best pussy ever, never asked for money or anything else, just to sleep with me. 26, demure, quiet, but hot as a pistol. I took her for a weekend to the beach, and when we were in a bar she was chatting with one of the best-looking working girls & learned she had 2 kids and no money. I said I thought she was nice and my girl said she felt sorry for her and asked if I wanted to have her. Well, why the hell not? BF'ed and did the deed, and when I came downstairs they were like old mates at the bar. My girl said she cried while we were upstairs though. That shifted my opinion about her, that she really had a warm heart.
After the typical sad taxi to the airport and farewell I started getting texts like "I love you..., bla bla"..., and something in me snapped to the point where a few days later I sent her money for a caregivers course. Just a big wad, all of a sudden so fast I even surprised myself. She was so grateful - "oh honey, I am really gonna change my life now, tnk u, love u forever, please come back soon bla bla."
OK - course supposed to start last Monday. Then Friday it was her turn to screw up - I get this IM from her address:
"yes [lenience] believe that i really love him hahahhaaha, he stupid sending me money and i will try to ask for more honey..."
I read it over and over, soon realized she had sent it to me by accident, although perhaps a Freudian sort of accident. I sent it back to her saying she had really made a huge huge mistake and that was the last she would ever hear from me. I got 5 mails in succession saying "sorry".
2 days later she IMs me saying "how come we not chat in so long?", like nothing happened and then she went on to say she had lost her phone with all e-mail IDs in it, someone has been using her Yahoo account, and on and on, like she would never do such a thing to me.
Then she made another mistake; I asked her how someone could have gotten into her Yahoo account and she told me the last true thing she will ever say to me: her password was so simple, just 6 zeroes, that someone could have guessed it. That seemed so farfetched that I tried it for the hell of it. There were not many mails left in her folders, only a few she had sent me, but one to a different sucker that I could hardly believe (edited but more or less copied here:
From: XXXXXXXX>Subject: To: (notme)XXXXXX@XXX.comD[/email]ate: Monday, April 20, 2009, 7:05 AMHi honey, how r you, im sorry hon you dont call me anymore coz i have no yetcellphone i saled already this morning because i went to the doctor for a checkup i have no money to pay there thats why and ill make sure that our baby is ingood condition and i promised to you ill take care of this baby soon. I havesome problem hon i must take vitamins and milk regularly but i have no yet moneyto buy completely thats the advised of my doctor i must and i want the baby ishealthy hon. I hope hon if i give birth of our baby i want you r here i wantyour presence. As of now hon i really need your support even a little amount tobuy the needs of our baby. Dont worry hon no doubt your the father of this babyno other guys and you know what after you leaving here ill stop working coz ireally missed you i think im in love with you. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH HONEY. See you
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From: [email]xxxx@yahoo.com[/email]>
To: [email]xxxx@yahoo.com[/email]
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 2:36:16 PM
Subject: Hi honey, this is my full name, xxxxx, Tondo, Manila, Philippines.
Hon if you sent me money pls. thru text only dont put or write here at my email coz i have no money to pay here everytime i mean the mtcn number. I LOVE YOU SO MUCH HONEY. I missed you.
I had his reply too but I think I lost it. He is all ready to be trussed and slaughtered. I mailed him but have not heard back. Well, I tried to help a brother.
I got one more IM from M, in which she said she missed me and promised to pay me back, "even with the Devil's money". I had never heard that term but figured it meant sex wages. I answered that I didn't think selling sex was the devil's wages, but she might meet up with him some day anyway, just for being a sneaky *****.
Next chapter: yesterday I got an IM and had a long chat with someone who "is close to M." and "was with her when she was online with you", and who really hates her for whoring, being so ambitious and not satisfied with what she has. It was really getting surreal. I could not get her to reveal her actual relationship with her, but she knew all about M.'s family situation (1 kid living with inlaws, husband working abroad, elderly mom living with older sister) that squared more or less with what I knew. She asked me if I was one of M's customers, which I dodged. I told her about the pregnancy scam, and she said if it was actually true her husband was going to be pretty upset when he comes back. (I don't think she really is pregnant) Then she signed off.
And that's about where it ends. No further communications. Me, older and wiser but no big deal - I like to experiment with money now and then. Her - maybe a new cellphone and handbag and hopefully no sucker boyfriends. I doubt she will take the caregiver's course, but I don't think I will write a recommendation for her if she does, even though she sure was some good eatin'.
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A Good News Story
[QUOTE=Lenience]Hooked up with a sweet FL ("M")the last few weeks, and treated her nice. Best pussy ever, never asked for money or anything else, [/QUOTE]
You did say you got the "best pussy ever" coupled with a relatively inexpensive and valuable real-world lesson learned, so isn't that worth the price you paid?
[QUOTE=Lenience]
I took her for a weekend to the beach, and when we were in a bar she was chatting with one of the best-looking working girls & learned she had 2 kids and no money. I said I thought she was nice and my girl said she felt sorry for her and asked if I wanted to have her. Well, why the hell not? BF'ed and did the deed[/QUOTE]
You got one of the best looking working girls too, that was a bonus, you are still ahead.
[QUOTE=Lenience]
"yes [lenience] believe that i really love him hahahhaaha, he stupid sending me money and i will try to ask for more honey..."[/QUOTE]
The value here is discovering at such an early stage what could have been a potentially prolonged sugar daddy/sucker experience. Your post is actually filled with optimism in more ways than one. Many suckers here and other places wish they could have been as fortunate as you were in this situation. What you gained in a few days, they’ve yet to learn in a life time.
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Required Reading for Newbies...
this post should become required reading before anyone coming here for the first time buys a ticket. sadly, it's hardly a unique tale, and happily no permanent harm was done, but just imagine if the text had never been mistakenly sent and the thousands of dollars that could have been potentially wasted. i hope that every guy who insists "i know but this girl is different," reads this and takes it to heart. the bottom line for me is, as it's always been, do not believe anything that you have been told and think always with your head and not your heart. it's harsh, but it's the only way to cope with the place and emerge unrep001hed after the trip.
ge
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Completely concur
Good Enough and Run Mann, you are absolutely right. I got away with what I consider to be a good deal since I never took any of it seriously, but I am still dazed from my complete misreading of that woman. Maybe I have not "been around the block" as much as I had thought.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]You did say you got the "best pussy ever" coupled with a relatively inexpensive and valuable real-world lesson learned, so isn't that worth the price you paid?
You got one of the best looking working girls too, that was a bonus, you are still ahead.
The value here is discovering at such an early stage what could have been a potentially prolonged sugar daddy/sucker experience. Your post is actually filled with optimism in more ways than one. Many suckers here and other places wish they could have been as fortunate as you were in this situation. What you gained in a few days, they’ve yet to learn in a life time.[/QUOTE]
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Lies & deception
in an earlier post, i thought 'mine was different' because i had done some superficial mailbox analysis. in that post, i still realized my 'package' is to a large extent the family help her efforts towards me will generate and i advocated being 'competitive' in that family help criteria.
well, after a pain to get the visa, the planned wedding is off no less than a month in what was to be her new home (europe).
so it turns out, she was a serial liar (had not one but two boyfriends over the course of our six months distanced relationship, the last one she was still in love with). what made me send her back home is that she was lying to her family and best friend too as regard to what was happening here. so bad, she couldn't take it anymore.
while i understand she has to save face to her family for going back home not a 'loser' of the entire income going forward, there are limits to downside risk one can accept in the tales she sends home and friends alike (tales like she's begging for mercy to no avail for me not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her three times a day).
so, my learning curve is saying: make sure you monitor her cell phone and computer activities as soon as she arrives to give you time to have a better assesment of who she really is before you commit longer term. amazing how uninformed one may be until then.
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Been Around
[QUOTE=Lenience]Good Enough and Run Mann, you are absolutely right. I got away with what I consider to be a good deal since I never took any of it seriously, but I am still dazed from my complete misreading of that woman. Maybe I have not "been around the block" as much as I had thought.[/QUOTE]Forget anything you ever knew or didn't know about gals or relationships. Take that info and throw it away in most cases its not the same here. Have a good time, keep the wallet closed and both eyes open at all times. You can have a great time here and don't believe more than 2% of what anybody foreign or domestic tell you here. The longer you stay looking and listening the faster you will get the proper reading on the ways of the world here in the PI.
GAMES, GAMES, AND MORE GAMES, but it comes at a small cost to you. These people tell shit every minute to each other so don't feel singled out. Never trust a bar girl, Never Trust Any Girl Here.
B. B.
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6 Stacks
I have to tell the board as this truly unbelievable…..
Last night while browsing the internet I was contacted on YM by a Filipina a Cebuana I knew through a mutual friend. To make a long sorry short she said she had to ask me something but was embarrassed. In my mind I knew the request for money was coming as I know the sun is coming up every morning. But what I didn’t know was how much. She said she had to pay her tuition and she was willing to do anything to make it happen. Not that….but she even thought about selling her kidney.
I had no interest in entertaining her request but I was just curious so I encouraged her on. I am thinking probably a measly 1-3 stacks she was going to request. But when she finally told me I couldn’t believe it. She was asking for 6 thousand dollars.
Keep in mind I have only spoken to this girl three times in two years. Never met in person. I am just beside myself in disbelief :confused:
me (5/21/2009 9:26:21 PM): how much is it?
her (5/21/2009 9:27:53 PM): its 3800 pounds
her (5/21/2009 9:27:53 PM): i checked the conversion online its 5,996.06 USD
me (5/21/2009 9:28:33 PM): WOW
her(5/21/2009 9:28:41 PM): in peso..its like death cloak
her(5/21/2009 9:28:41 PM): :(
her (5/21/2009 9:46:24 PM): you know...i was thinking of giving up one of
my kidneys if i ddint get lucky to get a loan
me (5/21/2009 9:46:50 PM): nah
her (5/21/2009 9:46:51 PM): just to pay for my tuition
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Since she was talking pounds I guess that she is going to school in the UK? Did you wish her luck selling her kidney? I'm sure she can make that money selling her holes in Europe. Anyway, I doubt she wants the money for tuition or that she would actually sell a kidney for it. She certainly seemed to think that you'd be willing to share your hard earned spoils of war with her. :D
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[QUOTE=Illogic]A Freebie no offense bruh just simple fuckery.
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fuckery[/url][/quote]Wow. Wish we had the Urban Dictionary when I was growing up. , . " Fuckery". I really like that word. Nice one!
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The Gall....Of Some People
[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Since she was talking pounds I guess that she is going to school in the UK? Did you wish her luck selling her kidney? I'm sure she can make that money selling her holes in Europe. Anyway, I doubt she wants the money for tuition or that she would actually sell a kidney for it. She certainly seemed to think that you'd be willing to share your hard earned spoils of war with her. :D[/QUOTE]
Yeah she is trying to attend some college in Cebu which has an international program in Europe. No. I told her not to sale the kidney. I don’t think she will sale her kidney either. She thought I was up for it because of our mutual friend. This mutual friend I had offered her a loan a while back but nowhere near this much and this mutual friend has seen me wheel and deal in PI and knows of my financial situation.
I wouldn’t loan a family member this type of money unless they were on their deathbed with documented proof let alone a virtual stranger.
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The Gall....Of Some People
Brazen ... Like the BBW in the other thread ... Hope this is not a trend.
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Sexual evolution and dependence
[QUOTE=Finrod]Brazen ... Like the BBW in the other thread ... Hope this is not a trend.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately, I believe it is a mighty trend. You should skip this if you are a Creationist because it has to do with Darwin's theory of Survival of the Fittest.
Somewhere between WWII and the early '80's, the survival gene became dominant in filipina women and relatively recessive in western men (speaking here in generalities).The balance of power in the symbiotic relationship in which money and security is traded for pleasure is shifting. The specific intelligence by which pinays become successful parasites is gradually increasing. Collectively they know all the survival tricks and strategies, while our lack of a collective modus operandi has effectively diluted those genes among us males. While their brain-to-hand neural pathways have developed allowing them to put more of our money in their pockets, large parts of our brains have simply migrated into the scrotal region. The tighter the grasp of the pussy, the looser our grasp on reality.
If this were nuclear terror, we should all be bending over and kissing our asses goodbye now. Luckily we still can recognize the more obvious warning signs and have a few remaining self-protection mechanisms against the pinay attack, but they are fading fast..
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[QUOTE=Illogic]
her (5/21/2009 9:46:24 PM): you know...i was thinking of giving up one of
my kidneys if i ddint get lucky to get a loan
me (5/21/2009 9:46:50 PM): nah
her (5/21/2009 9:46:51 PM): just to pay for my tuition[/QUOTE]I think we should call this the Cebuana Kidney Gambit.
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[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]I think we should call this the Cebuana Kidney Gambit.[/QUOTE]
How long until it morphs into the Nigerian Kidney Scam?
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Lies: Time For A New Girl?
[quote=ua freak]in an earlier post, i thought 'mine was different' because i had done some superficial mailbox analysis. in that post, i still realized my 'package' is to a large extent the family help her efforts towards me will generate and i advocated being 'competitive' in that family help criteria.
well, after a pain to get the visa, the planned wedding is off no less than a month in what was to be her new home (europe).
so it turns out, she was a serial liar (had not one but two boyfriends over the course of our six months distanced relationship, the last one she was still in love with). what made me send her back home is that she was lying to her family and best friend too as regard to what was happening here. so bad, she couldn't take it anymore.
while i understand she has to save face to her family for going back home not a 'loser' of the entire income going forward, there are limits to downside risk one can accept in the tales she sends home and friends alike (tales like she's begging for mercy to no avail for me not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her three times a day).
so, my learning curve is saying: make sure you monitor her cell phone and computer activities as soon as she arrives to give you time to have a better assesment of who she really is before you commit longer term. amazing how uninformed one may be until then.[/quote]
i really wanted to ask you some of these questions off line but you have no contact info displayed.
i see from your posts you used to frequent russia. i used to too, but haven't been back in 2 years because i find the philippines more lucrative. why did you give it up and are now in the phil?
how do you monitor her cell phone? i would like this ability too.
sorry to be so nosy, but how old are you since you want an 18 year old virgin to marry and live with you in europe?
are you still with this girl after she is saying that you are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her 3 times a day? this is a dangerous accusation for her to make.
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Bar Girl Job Reconsidered - NOT a Bad Job
I think we need to reconsider that OUR opinion of the Bar Girl job and THEIR opinion of the job is quite different. We see it as bad and don't want someone we care about there. They see it as a pretty good job for a girl from their province. As many as 20% of the girls from some villages go to be bar girls. One BG told me it was "EASY MONEY" and she was glad to work there because she could buy color TV, DVD player, iPod, colored contacts lenses, expensive cell phone, etc. They are NOT just fucking to feed their family as you can see. It's good job for someone with their skills considering many never graduated high school.
I realize now that I was more upset about “nice” girls working as Bar Girls than they were. Now, I’m not sure if “rescuing” them from the bar girl lifestyle is the right thing to do. I know of two girls that older men became there BF and got them to leave. Within 2 months both were back working there. I’m not sure if they are still getting the money from the men, but my guess is they are. A girl that knows them told me they came back because, "it’s boring in the province and they are just horny".
The job has lots of fringe benefits: it can provide food and sometimes it is a big party, and it pays a lot too, and if you like sex even better. It's a status symbol to have a foreign guy, so they get their egos boosted because foreign guys want them. The ultimate fringe benefit would be to get a foreign boyfriend, sponsor, or husband or maybe even a couple of boyfriends if they are real dishonest. Most of these girls have already had sex with poor Filipino guys for free, so now they can make money for it. They have a job, where they can go to work, party and get drunk, and even have an Orgasm while getting paid for it. Think about it, when was the last time you ever got paid to party, get drunk, and have an Orgasm at work. In my work I usually have some asshole boss making what should be a normally stressful job even more stressful. Think about it! Now that Bar Girl job doesn’t sound so bad!
My opinion is the girls that don’t like sex or the exciting bar girl life style leave after a few weeks.
I had one good looking BG friend tell me she only boom booms good looking young guys. She is 25 and was proud to tell me that guys as young as 18 have selected her to boom boom. She told me she doesn't like old guys and she has never done anyone older than mid 40s and only nice looking guys. She complained to me that she can only get an Orgasm once in every 4 Bar Fines. Wow, tough job!! You have to remember these girls are not forced to have sex with anyone, they can accept or decline anyone’s offer.
I have also suggested other jobs to Bar Girls and other family members. They say they wouldn’t do that job because it doesn’t pay enough, so do nothing instead. That is why you have one person supporting a whole family. To them the BG job is better, it pays more and is easier work. Also their parents want things for their house and money for alcohol and girls feel a serious obligation to their extended family. Everything is the debt they owe to their family and they feel they come second. I honestly believe the men could leave home and do construction work elsewhere. But why do it if you can make your daughter or a foreigner support you.
Sorry if I sound heartless and cynical, but I’ve seen what I am describing too often. Originally I wanted to help “poor” bar girls that were unhappy or suicidal. Recently, I heard a "rescued" ex bar girl (who had even had caught SDTs while working) telling her younger friend it’s not a bad job and she should try it!
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Paying For College; Many Never Even Graduated High School
[QUOTE=Illogic]Yeah she is trying to attend some college in Cebu which has an international program in Europe. No. I told her not to sale the kidney. I don’t think she will sale her kidney either. She thought I was up for it because of our mutual friend. This mutual friend I had offered her a loan a while back but nowhere near this much and this mutual friend has seen me wheel and deal in PI and knows of my financial situation.
I wouldn’t loan a family member this type of money unless they were on their deathbed with documented proof let alone a virtual stranger.[/QUOTE]
I don't know all girls in the Philippines, but I think they have learned that besides emergency sickness that money for college is the best way to get money. I do not believe 90% need money for school or are even going to school especially Bar Girls. Many of them never even graduated high school.
In the USA, strippers always say they are doing this to work their way through college. I had the chance to know a few well at a club and they confided in me, many had never graduated high school and the money was used for drugs or to support loser husbands or boyfriends, or maybe a single mom with a couple of children.
So guys unless you pay the tuition in person or see the actual receipt with her name on it, don't believe this lie.
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Monitoring
to answer your questions :
- pc monitoring is key rather than phone/sms. especially if she's abroad, she'll use your computer to chat but also to sms. so, my choice was to create a profile for her and put eblaster to work for that profile; other systems exist but this one lets you receive chats instantly, precise copy of emails and alerts for key words like sex or other words that develop once your monitoring hits dirt (like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] or the name of her bf back home). daily reports come only the next day, but in absolutely full & structured detail. then you send to a 'trusted friend' in the philippines for translation (do change the chat handles with 'replace all', or you are liable to blackmail by whoever will translate).
([url]http://www.spectorsoft.com/products/eblaster_windows/[/url])
-phone monitoring has only one way.. you give her the same phone you have. you then download like for your own phone with installed software (any decent nokia has good sms history download function software).
-given the phony allegations of constant [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and other stories going around local and foreign acquaintances/friends/family, i had to move fast and put her to either admit all in front of camera or go back home next day. had she admit all, i would have tried it another month, cause i fell really really hard for that babe (19), and even though she had no pleasure in bed (i'm not trying to give any either), it was quite a decent and comfortable situation for both. she admitted she lied and admitted 20%. pushed further, she admitted 80% (the boyfriends, the plan to marry for limited time, the family pressure, etc...) but she just couldn't admit all the way, especially on the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] allegations she had sent around and the responses / suggestions she received about it, so i reluctantly sent her to manilla the next morning. i miss her every day, and would even be so dumb to take her back later if things evolve. point is also it'll be extremely hard for me to sponsor another girl (visa wise) any time soon.
-regarding my life in eastern europe and more personal details and preferences, i renewed my subscription today and will pm you.
cheers,
ua freak
[quote=big johnson2]i really wanted to ask you some of these questions off line but you have no contact info displayed.
i see from your posts you used to frequent russia. i used to too, but haven't been back in 2 years because i find the philippines more lucrative. why did you give it up and are now in the phil?
how do you monitor her cell phone? i would like this ability too.
sorry to be so nosy, but how old are you since you want an 18 year old virgin to marry and live with you in europe?
are you still with this girl after she is saying that you are [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her 3 times a day? this is a dangerous accusation for her to make.[/quote]
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100% Right.
[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]I think we need to reconsider that OUR opinion of the Bar Girl job and THEIR opinion of the job is quite different. We see it as bad and don't want someone we care about there. They see it as a pretty good job for a girl from their province. As many as 20% of the girls from some villages go to be bar girls. One BG told me it was "EASY MONEY" and she was glad to work there because she could buy color TV, DVD player, iPod, colored contacts lenses, expensive cell phone, etc. They are NOT just fucking to feed their family as you can see. It's good job for someone with their skills considering many never graduated high school.
I realize now that I was more upset about “nice” girls working as Bar Girls than they were. Now, I’m not sure if “rescuing” them from the bar girl lifestyle is the right thing to do. I know of two girls that older men became there BF and got them to leave. Within 2 months both were back working there. I’m not sure if they are still getting the money from the men, but my guess is they are. A girl that knows them told me they came back because, "it’s boring in the province and they are just horny".
The job has lots of fringe benefits: it can provide food and sometimes it is a big party, and it pays a lot too, and if you like sex even better. It's a status symbol to have a foreign guy, so they get their egos boosted because foreign guys want them. The ultimate fringe benefit would be to get a foreign boyfriend, sponsor, or husband or maybe even a couple of boyfriends if they are real dishonest. Most of these girls have already had sex with poor Filipino guys for free, so now they can make money for it. They have a job, where they can go to work, party and get drunk, and even have an Orgasm while getting paid for it. Think about it, when was the last time you ever got paid to party, get drunk, and have an Orgasm at work. In my work I usually have some asshole boss making what should be a normally stressful job even more stressful. Think about it! Now that Bar Girl job doesn’t sound so bad!
My opinion is the girls that don’t like sex or the exciting bar girl life style leave after a few weeks.
I had one good looking BG friend tell me she only boom booms good looking young guys. She is 25 and was proud to tell me that guys as young as 18 have selected her to boom boom. She told me she doesn't like old guys and she has never done anyone older than mid 40s and only nice looking guys. She complained to me that she can only get an Orgasm once in every 4 Bar Fines. Wow, tough job!! You have to remember these girls are not forced to have sex with anyone, they can accept or decline anyone’s offer.
I have also suggested other jobs to Bar Girls and other family members. They say they wouldn’t do that job because it doesn’t pay enough, so do nothing instead. That is why you have one person supporting a whole family. To them the BG job is better, it pays more and is easier work. Also their parents want things for their house and money for alcohol and girls feel a serious obligation to their extended family. Everything is the debt they owe to their family and they feel they come second. I honestly believe the men could leave home and do construction work elsewhere. But why do it if you can make your daughter or a foreigner support you.
Sorry if I sound heartless and cynical, but I’ve seen what I am describing too often. Originally I wanted to help “poor” bar girls that were unhappy or suicidal. Recently, I heard a "rescued" ex bar girl (who had even had caught SDTs while working) telling her younger friend it’s not a bad job and she should try it![/QUOTE]This is a nice post,sounds like you do more than a week a year with this inside scoop.
B.B.
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[QUOTE=Big Johnson2]I don't know all girls in the Philippines, but I think they have learned that besides emergency sickness that money for college is the best way to get money. I do not believe 90% need money for school or are even going to school especially Bar Girls. Many of them never even graduated high school.
In the USA, strippers always say they are doing this to work their way through college. I had the chance to know a few well at a club and they confided in me, many had never graduated high school and the money was used for drugs or to support loser husbands or boyfriends, or maybe a single mom with a couple of children.
So guys unless you pay the tuition in person or see the actual receipt with her name on it, don't believe this lie.[/QUOTE]I think this is true. Every woman in the Phils says she's in college or a college graduate... but I thought they taught college in English there. Funny that sometimes their English is pretty darned poor for a college graduate.
Anyway, as far as bar girls go, the ones in the US do the exact same thing. They're all college girls if you ask them. I always ask them what their major is and it's funny when they can't answer. :)
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[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]I think this is true. Every woman in the Phils says she's in college or a college graduate... but I thought they taught college in English there. Funny that sometimes their English is pretty darned poor for a college graduate.
Anyway, as far as bar girls go, the ones in the US do the exact same thing. They're all college girls if you ask them. I always ask them what their major is and it's funny when they can't answer. :)[/QUOTE]
I have come across the same thing in DIA. Even 30 year old girls say they are studying. What the heck are they studying?
There is a saying in U.S. ( Once you go black you will never go back). Same thing regarding bargirls. Once they find out how easy to make money opening their legs they will never likely to stop. I had supported a cherry girl from Ac bar through college. She gave me her cherry but was very careless about the money thinking she can always go back to the bar and can make easy money.
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[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]I think this is true. Every woman in the Phils says she's in college or a college graduate... but I thought they taught college in English there. Funny that sometimes their English is pretty darned poor for a college graduate.[/QUOTE]A couple points. First, primary and secondary school is only til 10th grade (6 years elementary, 4 years high school, with no jr. High / middle school). So college isn't necessarily the same thing in the Phils. That it is in more developed countries.
Second, the quality of colleges varies widely. While there are some very good Universities, I visited others which were just diploma mills. For instance, I've encountered several universities with computer science programs with no computers! And have met plenty of college grads with very poor English.
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Got a weird situation here...
Ok, I find myself in a weird spot. I met this girl online at one of the dating sites. She asks if I am really from the town that is listed in my profile. I say yes. She says "great, I am coming to work there! " So, this girl is coming to work in my city, apparently she has the work permits and everything, and she's going to fly here soon. I have chatted with this girl minimally, maybe a total of an hour, and she wants me to pick her up at the airport and she wants to stay with me at my house.
So. Alarm bells are going off. It just feels strange. I guess she's still got the Filipina "white guys are fantastic" mindset, which of course she's going to lose in about 1 week here. But I sure wouldn't mind some free stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on that?
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[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]Ok, I find myself in a weird spot. I met this girl online at one of the dating sites. She asks if I am really from the town that is listed in my profile. I say yes. She says "great, I am coming to work there! " So, this girl is coming to work in my city, apparently she has the work permits and everything, and she's going to fly here soon. I have chatted with this girl minimally, maybe a total of an hour, and she wants me to pick her up at the airport and she wants to stay with me at my house.
So. Alarm bells are going off. It just feels strange. I guess she's still got the Filipina "white guys are fantastic" mindset, which of course she's going to lose in about 1 week here. But I sure wouldn't mind some free stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on that?[/QUOTE]She won't show. Or she will find a better offer. They all start off super enthusiastic then move onto the next one. Remember. Were all searching in chat sites for Manila / Under 25 / Slim etc. Highly likely that maybe shes doing the same. Get some verification about what shes doing and saying etc. Don't be suprised if this enthusiasm burns out quickly.
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[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]Ok, I find myself in a weird spot. I met this girl online at one of the dating sites. She asks if I am really from the town that is listed in my profile. I say yes. She says "great, I am coming to work there! " So, this girl is coming to work in my city, apparently she has the work permits and everything, and she's going to fly here soon. I have chatted with this girl minimally, maybe a total of an hour, and she wants me to pick her up at the airport and she wants to stay with me at my house.
So. Alarm bells are going off. It just feels strange. I guess she's still got the Filipina "white guys are fantastic" mindset, which of course she's going to lose in about 1 week here. But I sure wouldn't mind some free stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on that?[/QUOTE]Just don't give out your address in the interim. Personally, I would try the "I'm being deployed to Afghanistan so I can't pick you up at the airport" or "I'm being relocated to a new city and I cannot tell you where under the witness protection program! :D
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Actually I think it burned out before my conversation with her was done.
I didn't want to blow her off, especially if she needed a place to stay, but the whole thing just struck me as wierd. But then if I picked her up at the airport, I would know if she just came from the Phils. I'm not too concerned with being ripped off, unless some crime syndicate is sending 25-year-olds half way across the world to get into my house and steal my LCD TV.
So, anyway, haven't heard back yet, still don't know what's really going on.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]She won't show. Or she will find a better offer. They all start off super enthusiastic then move onto the next one. Remember. Were all searching in chat sites for Manila / Under 25 / Slim etc. Highly likely that maybe shes doing the same. Get some verification about what shes doing and saying etc. Don't be suprised if this enthusiasm burns out quickly.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]Ok, I find myself in a weird spot. I met this girl online at one of the dating sites. She asks if I am really from the town that is listed in my profile. I say yes. She says "great, I am coming to work there! " So, this girl is coming to work in my city, apparently she has the work permits and everything, and she's going to fly here soon. I have chatted with this girl minimally, maybe a total of an hour, and she wants me to pick her up at the airport and she wants to stay with me at my house.
So. Alarm bells are going off. It just feels strange. I guess she's still got the Filipina "white guys are fantastic" mindset, which of course she's going to lose in about 1 week here. But I sure wouldn't mind some free stuff.
Anyone got any thoughts on that?[/QUOTE]Beware that this may be phase #1 of a long con. I wouldn't be surprised if she later tells you that there's a problem and that she needs your help with a ticket, or some other stupid shit.
Call me paranoid, but in my short period of messing with Filipinas, I've encountered some of the boldest liars I have ever known.
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Prudence
I can well understand the alarm bells, but there's always the chance that she's telling the truth. Why not just tell her to send you and email or give you a call once she arrives? If that never happens, you will have lost nothing. If she asks for "help" getting there, I've found that the word "no" is one of the most effective, and underused words in the English language.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I can well understand the alarm bells, but there's always the chance that she's telling the truth. Why not just tell her to send you and email or give you a call once she arrives? If that never happens, you will have lost nothing. If she asks for "help" getting there, I've found that the word "no" is one of the most effective, and underused words in the English language.[/QUOTE]
I just wanted to give "GOOD ENOUGH" a long overdue attaboy for all his insiteful and integient posts here on this board. As a long time resident of Davao and frequent traveler to other cities there ,he is uniquely qualified to help all of us part time visitors. I met him in person and he is friendly guy too. For all you long time readers of this board to me he is just as good as " CEBU LOCAL" who we have not seen here in a long time but when he was posting he was the best source for Philippine info. I just wanted to give a public THANKYOU
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Thanks
Thanks very much for the kind words. I'm glad that anyone finds any of my comments helpful.
GE
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The Chick
Status Update:
Total Scamsville. She's asking for money now. Details and chat transcript to follow.
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Transcript of the Scammer
At the end I was going to try to get her to show me her tits, but I didn't get that far. I took off half her name to protect the guilty, I don't know why, but I suspect from "alexisclaire" you could figure it out if you knew her. I met her on CB I think.
A pretty good scam though. She had the name of a hospital in my town, she had full flight details about a flight here from Manila (I should have suspected when earlier she asked what the nearest airport was). Pretty convincing. I never would have fallen for it when she asked for money, but up until that point I was hooked pretty well.
alexisclaire: ohhhhh
alexisclaire: thanks
alexisclaire: pls invite your cam
Rob: my cam is not on this computer
alexisclaire: i seeee
alexisclaire: hope your still iterested to meet me there in xxxx
Rob: yes, of course
alexisclaire: ohhh i will try to call you whats your number
alexisclaire: i wanna hear your voice
Rob: it's x-xxxxxxxxxx, but the battery is dead.
alexisclaire: ohhh
alexisclaire: ok
Rob: where did you go the other night?
alexisclaire: i got dc
alexisclaire: power interuption
Rob: so you will be here on the 20th?
alexisclaire: im still a lil worried but mama is trying
Rob: you don't have a ticket yet?
alexisclaire: going there
alexisclaire: its sponsored by the employer
alexisclaire: no problem on that
alexisclaire: rob im a lil bit worrie dbecause i need to go to manila
alexisclaire: and if i cant go to manila for the orientation
alexisclaire: they will replaced me
Rob: oh no
alexisclaire: thats why mama is trying to raised the money
Rob: well i hope she does
alexisclaire: i hope you can help me rob
alexisclaire: i only need a lil help and promise to pay you when im there
Rob: what city do you live in now?
alexisclaire: siugay province
Rob: what city?
alexisclaire: ipil
alexisclaire: i will try to call you
alexisclaire: it end up at voice call
Rob: the battery is dead, I can't answer it
alexisclaire: rob plsss help me
alexisclaire: plsssss
alexisclaire: i will pay you when im there
alexisclaire: plssss
Rob: how much do you need?
alexisclaire: 350
alexisclaire: dollars
alexisclaire: if i cant go manila tommorrow
alexisclaire: i will be replaced
Rob: Well, maybe I can help you when I get to Philippines
alexisclaire: this is my only chance to be there in the usa
alexisclaire: when you get here
alexisclaire: my visa is not good anymore
alexisclaire: really want to work there
alexisclaire: plssss
alexisclaire: im begging you
alexisclaire: plssss
Rob: But I spent all my money on plane tickets and hotels in Asia, I have nothing in the bank right now.
alexisclaire: i only need 350 rob...and on the 20th i will be there
alexisclaire: and i will recieved 10,000 dollars from my employer there as my initial allowance
alexisclaire: i will be well compensated there
alexisclaire: my salary range is 25-35 dollars
alexisclaire: plsssss
alexisclaire: per hour
alexisclaire: plssss
alexisclaire: help me
alexisclaire: this is my only oppurtunity
Rob: I don't know.
alexisclaire: to be there working in xxxxx hospital
alexisclaire: and i dont want to be replaced
alexisclaire: and you dont want to help me
alexisclaire: im just running out of time
alexisclaire: ok i will go now
Rob: it sounds like you really need the money
alexisclaire: for me to be there
alexisclaire: yes i do
alexisclaire: been my dream to be there
Rob: yes, it is the dream of many people to be here.
Rob: I understand.
alexisclaire: ill go now
alexisclaire: im sorry that i ask you
Rob: But maybe you can do some small thing for me, to show that you are serious.
alexisclaire: bye for now
Rob: OK, well I see that you are not serious at all. You are wasting my time.
alexisclaire: hope to talk to you some other time
Rob: Do not bother, you're not serious.
alexisclaire: ok
Rob: You are trying to scam me, I know your tricks.
alexisclaire: whats that
alexisclaire: what tricks
Rob: I ask you for a small sign to show that you are serious and you can't even give me that, so I know you are not for real.
alexisclaire: what sign
Rob: no, no, it's ok, you have to go. Have a good night.
alexisclaire: ok
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Filipinas asking for money
Yes, it is the women's national sport to do so. For hospital bills, electric bills, Smartbro internet, tuition fee... enrollment fee.
You can answer these questions simply by asking for the name of the bank where you can transfer the money to.
And details like IBAN number, account number and invoice number.
I am sure schools, hospitals, Meralco Electricity etc. have bank accounts sometimes even with more than one bank.
Overseas workers transfer money this way.. and it is becoming more and more common in Phils. to use bank accounts for private purposes too.
Then the reply is mostly Westen Union or Xoom.
For me that's not an option.
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[QUOTE=Nightrider1]I just wanted to give "GOOD ENOUGH" a long overdue attaboy for all his insiteful and integient posts here on this board. As a long time resident of Davao and frequent traveler to other cities there ,he is uniquely qualified to help all of us part time visitors. I met him in person and he is friendly guy too. For all you long time readers of this board to me he is just as good as " CEBU LOCAL" who we have not seen here in a long time but when he was posting he was the best source for Philippine info. I just wanted to give a public THANKYOU[/QUOTE]
I will second that. I also work and live here, and have met GE.
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Thanks Again...
Again, thank you for the kind words. I'm now here in your fair city with a couple of friends and colleagues from work. I'm staying as always at the Garden Orchid. The food has not gotten any better since my last trip a couple of weeks ago, but the staff is so pleasant, that it's relaxing to stay here.
Tomorrow, I'll get the afternoon flight to Davao, then wait four hours or so for the flight to CDO where I will be for four nights, again with the same guys.
GE
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PI's Very Own
[QUOTE=Nightrider1]I just wanted to give "GOOD ENOUGH" a long overdue attaboy for all his insiteful and integient posts here on this board. As a long time resident of Davao and frequent traveler to other cities there ,he is uniquely qualified to help all of us part time visitors. I met him in person and he is friendly guy too. For all you long time readers of this board to me he is just as good as " CEBU LOCAL" who we have not seen here in a long time but when he was posting he was the best source for Philippine info. I just wanted to give a public THANKYOU[/QUOTE]
GE is our version of Old Thai Hand only GE is very kind. LOL
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[QUOTE=Huis Wijn]Yes, it is the women's national sport to do so. For hospital bills, electric bills, Smartbro internet, tuition fee... enrollment fee.
You can answer these questions simply by asking for the name of the bank where you can transfer the money to.
And details like IBAN number, account number and invoice number.
I am sure schools, hospitals, Meralco Electricity etc. have bank accounts sometimes even with more than one bank.
Overseas workers transfer money this way.. and it is becoming more and more common in Phils. to use bank accounts for private purposes too.
Then the reply is mostly Westen Union or Xoom.
For me that's not an option.[/QUOTE]
It depends on time...the more i live here, the more i find how to filter the money askers and get the freebies....More and more i find complete freebies and when i arrived here....it was exact opposite..i think the place adjusts you accourding to your taste.
Anyway, Filipino women ask moeny, but if you dont give or excuse it...you will still have her in your bed some time or the other.
They dont push or DEMAND money...if you say no it means NO
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]It depends on time...the more i live here, the more i find how to filter the money askers and get the freebies....More and more i find complete freebies and when i arrived here....it was exact opposite..i think the place adjusts you accourding to your taste.
Anyway, Filipino women ask moeny, but if you dont give or excuse it...you will still have her in your bed some time or the other.
They dont push or DEMAND money...if you say no it means NO[/QUOTE]
There is nothing free unless you want to screw older women. All young girls want money from you for shopping, internet, gifts for it is their birthday ( one girl even had two birthday in a year, she thought I forgot).
Yes, they have no problem jumping into sack with you initially.
But sooner or later they need a phone because she lost it or broke it etc.
I am not complaining. I do not mind giving them money because I got good sex, good companionship from normal girls. Only difference between them and the bar girl is , bargirls want money beforehand and they are pretty much ready to have sex with anybody for money. Normal girls will want money afterwards and if she is doing it for money all the time you will never know. Most of the normal girls are honest in philippines and you can even visit their home to make sure.
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What They Want
Taken From The Makati Board
[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]Honestly, I understand the difficulties that black people have with racism a lot of the time, and I can sympathise, because I didn't always get a fair shake from people either. I won't go into that. Anyway, I've always felt, as a white guy, that black guys had a big advantage in meeting white women. Maybe that was just my interpretation, but there are a lot of times I felt like if I were black I would have an easier time meeting white women. They seem drawn to black guys like... well, like Filipinas are apparently drawn to white guys.[/QUOTE]
I been aiming to address your post forgive me for the tardiness. Some white women like black men some wouldn’t be caught at a Michael Vick dog fight with one. Black men have no advantage with White women. Filipinas are not drawn to white men also. I think these are pretenses you have conjured up in your mind.
I think this is myth perpetuated by guys who have met Filipinas working in the Middle-East earning $100 (and need a foreigner to amplify their remittances to family members back home) a month or old military types who never got away from the bars. Filipinas like their own. Do you ever watch Pinoy TV? I do.
They SETTLE for us foreigners once they know their chances of landing a rich Pinoy boyfriend is out the window. Now once they settle for us foreigners then they prefer a white guy (white skin, perceived friendliness, perceived wealth, education etc social status.)
I troll the malls here in upscale areas. I see the occasionally expat with the Filipina but 9 out of 10 times the girls look bad(Bad body. Brown provincial type)…nothing a Filipino man with a good job would touch with Bin Laden’s dick. (It's even worse for the those of a dark skin orgin). Hell for that matter check out ISG. Only and I mean only Amivida has shown the panache to post photos of the girls the natives (with good jobs) prefer.
Two weeks ago I saw some pretty Filipinas with some western guys. But these Caucasian guys looked the part. They were young, fit, dressed well. Nothing like your typical sex tourist they looked like they would have had no problem picking up women anywhere in the world.
I know this place has been mythicized as some sort of sexual paradise (which it is as long as you stick to the bars and poor folk) but reality is women are women. There are Filipinas in the US also……
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monotheistic?
There is only one person on ISG who has had the "panache" to post pictures of a lighter skinned, more Spanish looking Filipina??? (my interpretation of what Filipino guys find attractive / also commonly seen on Phil TV)
Wow....I can't think of anything nice, nor interesting to write, so I'll stop right here.
X
[QUOTE=Illogic]Taken From The Makati Board
I been aiming to address your post forgive me for the tardiness. Some white women like black men some wouldn’t be caught at a Michael Vick dog fight with one. Black men have no advantage with White women. Filipinas are not drawn to white men also. I think these are pretenses you have conjured up in your mind.
I think this is myth perpetuated by guys who have met Filipinas working in the Middle-East earning $100 (and need a foreigner to amplify their remittances to family members back home) a month or old military types who never got away from the bars. Filipinas like their own. Do you ever watch Pinoy TV? I do.
They SETTLE for us foreigners once they know their chances of landing a rich Pinoy boyfriend is out the window. Now once they settle for us foreigners then they prefer a white guy (white skin, perceived friendliness, perceived wealth, education etc social status.)
I troll the malls here in upscale areas. I see the occasionally expat with the Filipina but 9 out of 10 times the girls look bad(Bad body. Brown provincial type)…nothing a Filipino man with a good job would touch with Bin Laden’s dick. (It's even worse for the those of a dark skin orgin). Hell for that matter check out ISG. Only and I mean only Amivida has shown the panache to post photos of the girls the natives (with good jobs) prefer.
Two weeks ago I saw some pretty Filipinas with some western guys. But these Caucasian guys looked the part. They were young, fit, dressed well. Nothing like your typical sex tourist they looked like they would have had no problem picking up women anywhere in the world.
I know this place has been mythicized as some sort of sexual paradise (which it is as long as you stick to the bars and poor folk) but reality is women are women. There are Filipinas in the US also……[/QUOTE]
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Illogicality
[QUOTE=X Man]Wow....I can't think of anything nice, nor interesting to write, so I'll stop right here.[/QUOTE]
Yet another post (yawn) with the usual racial overtones by a guy who is not comfortable in his own skin!
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Uncomfortable
[QUOTE=X Man]There is only one person on ISG who has had the "panache" to post pictures of a lighter skinned, more Spanish looking Filipina??? (my interpretation of what Filipino guys find attractive / also commonly seen on Phil TV)
Wow....I can't think of anything nice, nor interesting to write, so I'll stop right here.
X[/QUOTE]
X say what you want to say man. If have something that is not nice say it. What did I say that is untrue man. I live here.
[QUOTE=Mattrick]Yet another post (yawn) with the usual racial overtones by a guy who is not comfortable in his own skin![/QUOTE]
Did I start this discussion on race? Did you read the quote above my post? If I offended you my apologies what did I say that upset you?
I address a guy's post and you come out and attacking. Sounds like you are the uncomfortable one.
What I wrote is not a fact but is an opinion based on my time on ground and my personal taste(and what I see on the arms of those Hi-so Pinoys) if you don't like what I said or disagree then write a piece stating why you disagree but attacking me... have I ever attacked you? I mention race in my post because I am Black guy living in Asia. I know for some of you guys this is not an issue.
Very recently I asked what where the girls like in Indonesia in terms of personality. Now I didn’t mention my race at all but one ISG member who recognized me from the PI boards right away said they didn’t like Blacks’. Did I attack this guy as you just did? Nope. I only tried to reason with him.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=961&page=3&pp=15&highlight=black+men[/url]
Not a month goes by that some ISG member pops up to take a shot at me for some imagined slight. If you don't like my Yawns put me on your ignore list...but attacking me says a lot more about you than me.
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Just because people express surprise and disappointment with something you wrote, doesn't mean they are attacking YOU. You should look at it as if we are disagreeing with your message.
You know, when I see an older foreign guy with an older, overweight Filipina, I assume he married her 15 or 20 years earlier when she was a hottie. It's nice to see that bi-cultural marriages can last.
You on the other hand see something else. You have a right to your opinion, but if you put it here on the message board you shouldn't respond to criticism with "ignore" me. You are lowering yourself to the level of the guy you seem to think has "panache"!
Anyway, if you don't the looks of other men's women, nor like the pictures people post on the message board, you shouldn't look at them! :-)
X
[QUOTE=Illogic]X say what you want to say man. If have something that is not nice say it. What did I say that is untrue man. I live here. .[/QUOTE]
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Beauty Is In The Eye
[QUOTE=X Man]Just because people express surprise and disappointment with something you wrote, doesn't mean they are attacking YOU. You should look at it as if we are disagreeing with your message.
You on the other hand see something else. You have a right to your opinion, but if you put it here on the message board you shouldn't respond to criticism with "ignore" me. You are lowering yourself to the level of the guy you seem to think has "panache"!
Anyway, if you don't the looks of other men's women, nor like the pictures people post on the message board, you shouldn't look at them! :-)
X[/QUOTE]
Why criticize me?... criticize the post bruh. I look at all the photos. But AV is the only one I see that post photos of girls that I genuinely find attractive and that what most Pinoys (with good jobs) I think would find attractive. What is wrong with that? Everyone has their own taste in women. Most if not all the girls I barfine I don't really find that attractive but if they willing to give me wild night in bed....than that outweighs everything esle....
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Why Criticize Me?
Hahahahahaha
Cuz he does that frequently to anybody.
Have another Strohs X
When you are not drunk you are a valuable contrubutor.
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La Cruz, the great contrubutor!
This is rich coming from a guy who has made false accusations and personal attacks, rarely posts anything of merit, and apparently seems to think he's cute by revealing personal information about members.
And didn't someone warn you about misspellings when you attack people?
X
[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]Hahahahahaha
Cuz he does that frequently to anybody.
Have another Strohs X
When you are not drunk you are a valuable contrubutor.[/QUOTE]
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Moving on
Ok. Moving on from the teenage spat that seems to have occurred a few posts back, heres a question.?
Anyone encountered girls who prefer their sex a bit "rougher " than normal. My regular from Famfanga loves a bit of spanking, and weve had a bit of name calling in the throes of passion.
Was chattting yesterday with another regular who I've bonked twice on past two trips and she asked if next time I could spank her hard, pull her hair, called her a ****, bang her hard and rough, and generally treat her badly. Says she prefers it that way.
Whatever you want honey!
Anyone else had any experiences on these lines?
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College life
Well as luck would have it, was chatting today with my student friend. The one who wants me to pull her hair on our next bonk.
Anyways she recently started going back to college, somewhere in Ortigas and was telling me that the professor of one particular course is bonking not only one of her friends but also bonking another girl in class.
This is the kind of job for which I'm adequately qualified LOL
She also advised that one of the girls was "faking it" as the professor had a small weenie and the girl had complained there was insufficient "friction".
Have to love the way these ladies gossip.
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A bit roughter
Yes, I did
With a freebie in Hong Kong, a pinay OFW had her day off on Sunday and we spent most of the time in my hotel room.
Name calling, slapping on her butt and in her face, pulling her hair, pinching nipples, anything was welcome.
She was wild.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Ok. Moving on from the teenage spat that seems to have occurred a few posts back, heres a question.?
Anyone encountered girls who prefer their sex a bit "rougher " than normal. My regular from Famfanga loves a bit of spanking, and weve had a bit of name calling in the throes of passion.
Was chattting yesterday with another regular who I've bonked twice on past two trips and she asked if next time I could spank her hard, pull her hair, called her a ****, bang her hard and rough, and generally treat her badly. Says she prefers it that way.
Whatever you want honey!
Anyone else had any experiences on these lines?[/QUOTE]
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A few weeks ago, I posted my first report on the Phils, and here is an excerpt from that post (about a girl from LA Cafe):
[quote]Girl #4 - Paid her 2,500/day. Had her for three days. Met her upstairs. Initially, the Mamasan intro'd me to a girl who I thought was very cute and very doable, and was very very flirty with me. I then asked to see her ID, and she said she didn't have any. Anyway, that freaked me out, and she then told me that she did have a guest two weeks prior (a Korean, like me) who she was stopped with by police, near the Hyatt, and she had no ID, and the Korean had to pay the cop like 5,000 pesos.
She then said she had a friend who had ID, and told Mamasan to bring her friend, who was out on her first day back to LA Cafe after a three year hiatus. This girl was fairly attractive, and a total spinner. I like spinners, but I like spinners that are busty. She wasn't busty, but good enough.
Long story short, she was working at LA Cafe about three years ago, but due to too many bad experiences (getting robbed, beaten, etc) she stopped. It is only due to her mother recently being hospitalized and released that she came back temporarily.
She also has a 2 year old child with her first boyfriend, a Korean man, who is nowhere to be found now. Anyway, I spent the last three of my last four days with her (the second night I wanted her, she was not at LA Cafe, so I took out Girl #3 from this report instead). The second time I met her, I got her number.
Anyway, I gave her 2,500 PHP the first two days. The last day I gave her 5,000 PHP. I am not in love with this girl by any means, nor do I have strong feelings for her, and while not exactly the best in bed, she is a nice and subservient girl and possibly someone I can be with for a fairly good number of years. Long-term GF material, I think.
I've been with many working girls, and have seen/worked with many, and they rarely come as 'pure-hearted' as her. So while emotionally I may not be all that attached to her or have strong feelings for her, she's a very good choice if you look at it pragmatically (apart from the kid, but I'm not marrying her) as she is thin (a must), conservative, soft spoken, hard working, submissive, good-hearted.
Anybody else have experience with a girl in the Phils? Taking one on as GF material?[/quote]
I have been texting her everyday via Skype, and calling her 1~2 times a week since my return back to Korea and the USA. The last time we spoke, she got another call, and I could overhear part of her conversation on the other phone, saying, "I'll call you back, I'm on the phone with my boyfriend." Chances are she was speaking with her Korean friend, who called her frequently when we were together in Manila (hence, communication in English). That particular phone call, by the way, upon saying goodbye, she told me "Love you", but as I'm not a liar, I didn't tell her I loved her. I just said "ah, you take care". She then said it again, so I told her, "ok" and said goodbye. After all, I don't love her, and I find it strange that she can love me so quickly as well (and after three meetings).
So what's the point of this post? Well, my feelings for her are still not strong, though I did experience something strange. While in Manila, she'd told me she didn't have an e-mail address, as she hadn't been online in a long time and her e-mail address was either canceled due to lack of activity, or she forgot it (I forget which). Fine.
I still gave her mine, and told her to e-mail me, which she finally did today at approximately 1:00 AM, Manila time. In it, her message said:
[quote]hi tart how are you??
i hope you undertand im always busy
miss you tart.
take care always.[/quote]
According to her, 'tart' means something like '자기야' in Korean, which is something like 'honey', or 'sweetie' in English, I suppose. So, while it was nice to get the e-mail from her, I decided to do some searching with her e-mail address.
First stop: Friendster. I checked her e-mail address on Friendster, and lo and behold, she has a profile. She's been a member since June 2009. Based on when she uploaded her photos and when she added friends (all three of them), I've concluded her account is two weeks old.
No problem, I think she was telling the truth about not having an e-mail address. So she created one recently, and used it to start her Friendster account. According to her Friendster, she is "in a relationship". Could that be me? Also, she is "Interested in: Relationship with Men".
On top of that, the 'banner' thing at the top of her page says, ""hi guys!please add me up @ [email]xxxxx@yahoo.com...tnx[/email]!""
She has a total of three friends, and 16 pictures, 12 of them being family, 4 of them being her. In one photo of her, which looks a few years old (one photo of her did have a timestamp of 2005), you can make out and see the 'stamp' that LA Cafe puts on your wrist when you go upstairs. I don't know for sure if it's LA Cafe, but it's a circular stamp, and it's very faded, and every time we were in LA Cafe, she would try to scrub it off but would fail to get all of it off... That's what it looks like in the photo.
Now, the weird part... after the e-mail she sent me, she sent me another one 21 minutes later. It said:
[quote] hello ,tart always miss... u
take care always.,,,[/quote]
I thought to myself, "Why is she sending me this again? Perhaps she thought the first mail didn't go through." At that point, I saw the other text below, and saw that this e-mail was in response to someone else... someone named Dan, and my name is not Dan. By the way, Dan, based on his e-mail address and surname, is someone from Hong Kong I'm guessing.
This is the actual full e-mail:
[quote]hello ,tart always miss... u
take care always.,,,
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From: Dan **** <********@hotmail.com>
To: **** Manila <********@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 10:34:25 PM
Subject: Sweetie
Huney, please send me an email when you can, I'm trying to reach you po.
Take care,
Dan[/quote]
So Dan e-mailed her on June 20, and she responds about a week later (June 27~28 depending on where you live), but instead of responding to only him, she responds to it by sending the response to me! It was not that I got a CC... I was the "To" recipient. The only way Dan got her response was if she BCC'd him.
Obviously she is corresponding with other men (well at least one other man). I can't say I was happy about it, but I was barely upset. I'd expected it, as I did tell her we could be very flexible in our dating, and that I didn't mind if she saw other men so long as she told me about it.
The question now is whether or not I should call her on it. I could do so, but it would cause embarrassment for her and it wouldn't solve anything that couldn't be solved in other ways.
Looking at it from her perspective, she doesn't know for sure I'll ever come back to see her, or to marry her. Even in my previous post I said I wasn't going to. So, I see this as keeping her options open, as I'm sure her eventual goal is marriage to a decent guy who will take care of her and her child. I can't be upset about that, can I?
I think the best thing for me to do is to just pretend I don't know anything, and continue to play this game. After all, I, too and talking to other women, so to break it off because of something I'm doing as well would be hypocritical. I don't believe love is real anyway, it is only an illusion, and that marriage is not about love it's about being pragmatic (for women). It is why I've never told a girl I've loved her.
Who knows? If someday I do move to the Philippines and she is still single (or, at the most, she's just corresponding with a bunch of guys online/overseas), I wouldn't mind being in a LTR with her. So long as she dumps all her cyber/phone boyfriends.
What do you guys think? I know some of you seem to know a lot about the Phils and about Filipinas. Is this girl still a 'good' girl and just keeping her options open? Or is she stringing a bunch of guys along for... whatever it is?
By the way, she has never asked me for money. Apart from giving her money after taking her out from LA Cafe, she has never said on the phone to send her money. She instead tells me in about two months she's going to start work in Boracay with a six-month contract, and that she wants me to visit her there, so long as I'm at a hotel far from where she works!
Well, you Filipina veterans, esp. those of you who have been in relationships with them, I'd like to hear your opinions and advice. Thank you all.
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LA Is For Play....
[QUOTE=Byung]A few weeks ago, I posted my first report on the Phils, and here is an excerpt from that post (about a girl from LA Cafe):
Well, you Filipina veterans, esp. those of you who have been in relationships with them, I'd like to hear your opinions and advice. Thank you all.[/QUOTE]
Man this has been discussed a 1000 times. If she is a bar girl and her lips are moving she is lying.
You met her at LA Cafe....enough said. Man if you want a girl to play house with there are a lot of good girls in PI to do this with. These bar girls will tell you anything...The last one I fucked (see my last report on the Manila board) at least she told me she had a Black boyfriend in Japan sending her money every month and even showed me his photo.....LOL. He texted her while we were butt-ass in bed saying he wanted to chat right that instant. She told him she couldn't make it.
These girls keep in contact with a lot of men and line as many up as possible. You are a potential money source (boyfriend, husband, sponsor, customer) nothing more....
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[QUOTE=Illogic]Man this has been discussed a 1000 times. If she is a bar girl and her lips are moving she is lying.
You met her at LA Cafe....enough said. Man if you want a girl to play house with there are a lot of good girls in PI to do this with. These bar girls will tell you anything...I the last one I fucked (see my last report on the Manila board) at least she told me she had a Black boyfriend in Japan sending her money every month and even showed me his photo.....LOL. He texted her while we were butt-ass in bed saying he wanted to chat right that instant. She told him she couldn't make it.
These girls keep in contact with a lot of men and line as many up as possible. You are a potential money source (boyfriend, husband, sponsor, customer) nothing more....[/QUOTE]
Byung,
I'm just going to add one more thing. You used the words "subservient" and "submissive" to describe this girl. Hopefully, you don't believe the myth of the submissive Asian female. These women are not subservient it is just an act to get you to lower your guard. They know that they can get more out of you that way. She'll make you think that you're in control and then take your balls when you least expect it. Many guys have found this out the hard way. Don't set yourself up to be taken for a ride.
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[QUOTE=Illogic]Man this has been discussed a 1000 times. If she is a bar girl and her lips are moving she is lying.
You met her at LA Cafe....enough said. Man if you want a girl to play house with there are a lot of good girls in PI to do this with. These bar girls will tell you anything...The last one I fucked (see my last report on the Manila board) at least she told me she had a Black boyfriend in Japan sending her money every month and even showed me his photo.....LOL. He texted her while we were butt-ass in bed saying he wanted to chat right that instant. She told him she couldn't make it.
These girls keep in contact with a lot of men and line as many up as possible. You are a potential money source (boyfriend, husband, sponsor, customer) nothing more....[/QUOTE]
Illogic, I read all your posts (at least for the past month or so), I find them the most entertaining on the Philippines forum. Thanks for the entertainment and info.
Yes, I realize I'm a potential money source, as you said, possibly as a boyfriend or husband. I also believe that is the case with most women, 'working' or not. As I said, I do not believe love is real, but smart women can make it seem real.
The issue is whether or not I should call her on it; for now, I still think I'm going to not say anything. Sometime soon mention to her that I've found someone else, and when I go back to Manila, see if she's still 'single', and have fun with her then.
[quote=Chocha Monger]Byung,
I'm just going to add one more thing. You used the words "subservient" and "submissive" to describe this girl. Hopefully, you don't believe the myth of the submissive Asian female. These women are not subservient it is just an act to get you to lower your guard. They know that they can get more out of you that way. She'll make you think that you're in control and then take your balls when you least expect it. Many guys have found this out the hard way. Don't set yourself up to be taken for a ride.[/quote]
Well, being Asian myself (Korean), I don't believe it, as I've seen how 'tough' Korean women can be. If anything, I think some Japanese women may be submissive, but yes, I know it's a 'myth' for the most part.
This girl truly does seem to be that way, or she's a regular Meryl Streep. Either way, I'm not sending her any money, and so far she hasn't asked for it. I suspect she may a month or two down the line, in which case I'll have to say goodbye... and of course say 'hello' when I arrive at MNL again. =)
Thanks for your concern, though.
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Confrontation
Direct verbal confrontation (of the verbal kind) is, as those of us who have lived here long enough know, an unsatisfactory tactic for resolving anything. This is not a culture that encourages directness in any field of human endeavor and the sort of Westernized direct, confrontational style will not work here. All that such an approach will provoke is more shaded truth or outright lies to cover up the prior outright lies. Life is not about truth here, but about saving face.
As long as you accept the fact that you will never know the whole truth, at least as most of us understand the term, there's no need to confront anyone about anything that they would perceive as unpleasant.
GE
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Guaranteed nookie
Byung, look at it this way: you have almost guaranteed sex if you visit her in Boracay. You probably won't have to spend much on her to get it. That pretty much sums it up. No more, no less.
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Agree on confrontation discussion...
My first GF here in the Philippines was a bar girl I had met in Malaysia. The moment I stopped making "buy" signals, she had other guys lined up. Actually, during the entire time we were playing house together she had a guy in Germany supporting her. This person was about to break up his family to be with her.
When I found out. Because little lies add up. I contacted the guy and told him she was living with me. For the last six months or so. You know the drill. The german guy and I are still good friends today. He saved cash, and his family. I let the girl go. Even when confronted directly. She lied. Even with pictures, western union receipts. The whole case closed book of evidence she denied it all the very next day. It went beyond what I have ever experienced in terms of deceit. It spoke to a very deep disconnect between how I perceived common reality. And her outlook.
Yes. If she is a bar girl you will never know the details. You will never get the truth, as you would understand it. Your "shy girl" will act like the virgin Mary in your presence but, in a P4P setting will be gang banging like a porn star. And loving it.
If all her friends are bar girls, then she is still a bar girl. Lastly, the older the girl. The more secrets she has to keep.
Interestingly. The girl I busted years ago still I'm's me. Wants to fuck me on my next business trip to wherever she is. And has all sorts of "reasons" why I should "live my life to the fullest"; obviously with her back in the picture.
Yet more proof that women are a separate species, and they are all insane.
[QUOTE=Byung]Illogic, I read all your posts (at least for the past month or so), I find them the most entertaining on the Philippines forum. Thanks for the entertainment and info.
Yes, I realize I'm a potential money source, as you said, possibly as a boyfriend or husband. I also believe that is the case with most women, 'working' or not. As I said, I do not believe love is real, but smart women can make it seem real.
The issue is whether or not I should call her on it; for now, I still think I'm going to not say anything. Sometime soon mention to her that I've found someone else, and when I go back to Manila, see if she's still 'single', and have fun with her then.
Well, being Asian myself (Korean), I don't believe it, as I've seen how 'tough' Korean women can be. If anything, I think some Japanese women may be submissive, but yes, I know it's a 'myth' for the most part.
This girl truly does seem to be that way, or she's a regular Meryl Streep. Either way, I'm not sending her any money, and so far she hasn't asked for it. I suspect she may a month or two down the line, in which case I'll have to say goodbye. And of course say 'hello' when I arrive at MNL again. =)
Thanks for your concern, though.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Direct verbal confrontation (of the verbal kind) is, as those of us who have lived here long enough know, an unsatisfactory tactic for resolving anything. This is not a culture that encourages directness in any field of human endeavor and the sort of Westernized direct, confrontational style will not work here. All that such an approach will provoke is more shaded truth or outright lies to cover up the prior outright lies. Life is not about truth here, but about saving face.
As long as you accept the fact that you will never know the whole truth, at least as most of us understand the term, there's no need to confront anyone about anything that they would perceive as unpleasant.
GE[/QUOTE]
That is so true, they cant seem to be found out they have lied to you no matter what the evidence is against them...
But at least they are beautiful young and great in bed..
But do have very different ideas about life, love and relationships.
Another member posted on here a while ago that he would swap from Pinays to Chinese girls as gf and although they are a lot tamer in bed they might be a much more honest long term proposition.
But I do love pinays.....
Wizard
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Not just the bar girls...
SA, it's not just the bar girls who lie consistently and will never confront truth, it's part of the national character: equal parts soap opera, eloquent deception, aversion to acceptance of responsibility, refusal to be held accountable for anything at any time and a congenital inability to tell unpleasant truths. Couple this with utter lack of initiative and an inability to think much outside the box and you've described almost everyone. There may be some exceptions--I think in my six years here I've met three or four--but not many. And these traits are by no means limited to women; the men are excellent exemplars as well.
Of course, on the distaff side, there are to be sure redeeming features, and the news is by no means all bad.
GE
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Beg to Differ
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]
There may be some exceptions--I think in my six years here I've met three or four--but not many. And these traits are by no means limited to women; the men are excellent exemplars as well.
GE[/QUOTE]
I have an exception to the rule. I married a lovely young lady from Q City 22 years ago. Met her through a friend. She was a college trained engineer working on her own designing houses. She is the one who took a chance on me not the other way around. I would say I married up. She is probably smarter than I am, much better looking, and still trim and fit after all these years.
I say she took a chance on me, as I was a mid-level enlisted military man. Did not have much money and lived in a one bedroom apartment. I was deployed regularly after we were married. While I was gone, she went back to college and got an AA degree in Computer science.
I was severely injured in a military vehicle accident and she helped the nurses tend to me. You know you must have a good wife when she will help change your colostomy bag.
She never asked for money to send her parents but does send home small amounts for birthdays and holidays. Even with me disabled, we are still doing ok. She works hard and manages our money very well. I have met most of her family and many relatives from California and Hawaii. All are upstanding and doing quite well in business.
I got really lucky and I thank my god each and every night.
Slim
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Nvslim.
You are a 1 lucky guy, and I hope this continues for you forever.
Hope I can do the same
Good luck
Wizard
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Hello guys,
I am Filipina and I have been reading post for like 4 years now? That's what I remember. I never interacted but just read your posts, opinions and advices. I was saddened that these things happen with you or your friends. I couldn't defend them for I myself agree that this is the style of some Filipinas? Blame it to Spaniards who colonized us for 300 years.
Anyway, I guess not all bar girls are "bad". Its so happen that they don't love you at all. You see, when a girl loves you they will be ashamed to ask for money. They will ask money from those they don't LOVE. Unless of course they are really in need (truthful scenarios).
You see NVSLIM got lucky (well she wasn't a bar girl). There are exceptions.
As for ShadowAxis and Byung, well I feel ashamed that this happened. I am ashamed and I feel bad about your story. I guess the bottom line is get to know the person first before sending cash. Don't be too heroic. Okey, If you know your girlfriend to well, I guess it's okey. But c'mon, you met the girl for two days and suddenly you exchange I love you's. Hello? There is no such thing as "love at first night".
Your wish is my command,
Wishmaster
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]I have an exception to the rule. I married a lovely young lady from Q City 22 years ago. Met her through a friend. She was a college trained engineer working on her own designing houses. She is the one who took a chance on me not the other way around. I would say I married up. She is probably smarter than I am, much better looking, and still trim and fit after all these years.
I say she took a chance on me, as I was a mid-level enlisted military man. Did not have much money and lived in a one bedroom apartment. I was deployed regularly after we were married. While I was gone, she went back to college and got an AA degree in Computer science.
I was severely injured in a military vehicle accident and she helped the nurses tend to me. You know you must have a good wife when she will help change your colostomy bag.
She never asked for money to send her parents but does send home small amounts for birthdays and holidays. Even with me disabled, we are still doing ok. She works hard and manages our money very well. I have met most of her family and many relatives from California and Hawaii. All are upstanding and doing quite well in business.
I got really lucky and I thank my god each and every night.
Slim[/QUOTE]Good for you my friend. Do you think that would happen with this generation of girls?
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]I have an exception to the rule. I married a lovely young lady from Q City 22 years ago. Met her through a friend. She was a college trained engineer working on her own designing houses.[/QUOTE]That was 22 years ago, as you said, Also with an Established College grad who already was successful by philippine standards.
First of all we are talking a generation ago when values were different, the country was different. There was no Internet to communicate with guys to sponsor you, web cams to entice a foreigner. Cell phones to text and make arrangements. The world was a much different place. No cable TV for a Filipina to see what was going on around the world, so they were much more naieve and less worldly.
Secondly, how many guys here are able to meet a sucessful filipina college grad engineer. Now a days philippine college grads are lucky to find a job in the mall or flippin burgers at McDonalds.
Its mainly a sign of the times. Be glad you were here during those days when the women were more innocent and probably much less materialistic.
I recently met a Filipina in AC who didn't have a cell phone. I had a spare phone an older model. But stil in good working condition. I offered it to her for Free and she refused it because It didn't have a camera and wasnt a new model. Just shows the mentality of the Filipina today.
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Your views have changed, GE
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]SA, it's not just the bar girls who lie consistently and will never confront truth, it's part of the national character: equal parts soap opera, eloquent deception, aversion to acceptance of responsibility, refusal to be held accountable for anything at any time and a congenital inability to tell unpleasant truths. Couple this with utter lack of initiative and an inability to think much outside the box and you've described almost everyone. There may be some exceptions--I think in my six years here I've met three or four--but not many. And these traits are by no means limited to women; the men are excellent exemplars as well. GE[/QUOTE]
GE, I've been reading your posts in this forum and another one for nearly four years. In prior years you put a lot of energy into talking up Davao as a great place to live or visit, but you also had good things to say about your Filipino acquaintances, and you generally tried to put a positive spin on the women you occasionally picked up away from your own zip code. I've sort of noticed that the tone of your comments about Filipinos and their national culture has turned sour, especially over the last six months. Do you think Filipinos and their culture were always so despicable, but you were simply viewing them through rose colored glasses in those earlier posts? Another possible explanation is that you have changed but haven't really reflected on this very much. Still another possibility is that your business, recreational, or romantic life has either jolted you or led you to see a sample of folks that are particularly disingenuous.
I'm not posting this to ding you or your viewpoint, but just to reflect back to you my observations about the change in your postings. You've provided people in this forum a lot of excellent advice over the years, and so I'm concerned to see you in what comes across as a funk compared to where your head was a couple years ago. If you've become disillusioned about the setting, why stay there? So, yeah, I'm sort of concerned about what's going on with you.
I'd understand if you don't want to respond in the open forum.
Skip
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Yea, I Do
[QUOTE=Cansx]
Good for you my friend. Do you think that would happen with this generation of girls?
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As long as she is NOT a Bar girl. Heard too many horror stories.
Find a nice educated, professional girl who is free of parents and looking for a challenge.
Good Luck,
Slim
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My relationship with PI Bar Girl ended in ruins.
A while back, perhaps last year in August I posted in this forum about PI living expenses and dating a bar-girl.
I've learned alot since that time. I made the jump to my filipina against most of the advice given to me on this forum, the expenses she quoted were reasonable as it turns out but her motivation may not have been purely platonic more likely just survival and a chance to get out of the game and possibly lead a normal life.
She had another relationship with an (Chinese-Malay) guy on an Australian passport that was not divulged before I left my family although I had an idea she had another 'supporter'.
If you want more details of my story, please PM me. I could post my observations but it would be one hell of a long report and not very positive about the PI.
My advice, bar girls are great, have fun with them but don't try to make a relationship with them. They don't respect themselves and they won't respect you.
I am still recovering from my 8 month relationship with her but I am having lots of fun (tons of other girls PI, VN, CN and TH), I just don't want another relationship - at least not at this time.
Women are strange creatures. Men can be fooled by them, please take care.
Yellow Fever
[QUOTE=ShadowAxis]My first GF here in the Philippines was a bar girl I had met in Malaysia. The moment I stopped making "buy" signals, she had other guys lined up. Actually, during the entire time we were playing house together she had a guy in Germany supporting her. This person was about to break up his family to be with her.
When I found out. Because little lies add up. I contacted the guy and told him she was living with me. For the last six months or so. You know the drill. The german guy and I are still good friends today. He saved cash, and his family. I let the girl go. Even when confronted directly. She lied. Even with pictures, western union receipts. The whole case closed book of evidence she denied it all the very next day. It went beyond what I have ever experienced in terms of deceit. It spoke to a very deep disconnect between how I perceived common reality. And her outlook.
Yes. If she is a bar girl you will never know the details. You will never get the truth, as you would understand it. Your "shy girl" will act like the virgin Mary in your presence but, in a P4P setting will be gang banging like a porn star. And loving it.
If all her friends are bar girls, then she is still a bar girl. Lastly, the older the girl. The more secrets she has to keep.
Interestingly. The girl I busted years ago still I'm's me. Wants to fuck me on my next business trip to wherever she is. And has all sorts of "reasons" why I should "live my life to the fullest"; obviously with her back in the picture.
Yet more proof that women are a separate species, and they are all insane.[/QUOTE]
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Filipina POV
[QUOTE=Wishmaster]Hello guys,
I am Filipina and I have been reading post for like 4 years now? That's what I remember. I never interacted but just read your posts, opinions and advices. I was saddened that these things happen with you or your friends. I couldn't defend them for I myself agree that this is the style of some Filipinas? Blame it to Spaniards who colonized us for 300 years.
Anyway, I guess not all bar girls are "bad". Its so happen that they don't love you at all. You see, when a girl loves you they will be ashamed to ask for money. They will ask money from those they don't LOVE. Unless of course they are really in need (truthful scenarios).
You see NVSLIM got lucky (well she wasn't a bar girl). There are exceptions.
As for ShadowAxis and Byung, well I feel ashamed that this happened. I am ashamed and I feel bad about your story. I guess the bottom line is get to know the person first before sending cash. Don't be too heroic. Okey, If you know your girlfriend to well, I guess it's okey. But c'mon, you met the girl for two days and suddenly you exchange I love you's. Hello? There is no such thing as "love at first night".
Your wish is my command,
Wishmaster[/QUOTE]
I am quite surprised to see a filipina posting on this forum. It is interesting to get a different point of view.
In my case, we dated for 2 months before my BG moved in together with me and although she knew my intentions (and I believed hers too) she continued to be dishonest with me. It is easy for a BG to lie to your face, that is their professional training.
I actually was kind and in a way patient even though I was hurt very much the first time I discovered her deceit. I tried to forgive her the second time and on the third strike I planned carefully to get her out of my life which eventually I did. She is back in the bar business and I think her career will not be very long.
I have learned alot and I have read all her communications with her other 'customers'. Interesting reading.
I actually feel sorry for bar-girls, it is not an occupation *most* would choose but they do this because there is nothing else for them. I try my best to help them and understand their motivations. I know life is difficult but a little honesty from them would go a long way. BG life is not very glamorous.
I've actually had a really fair share of free bar girls. Some are very nice and friendly for the short time. I think nearly all BGs want to get out of the business if they could. BGs are not good at planning, only want the easy way and to them this is easy money.
The odds are highly stacked against a relationship with a bar girl lasting.
On the other hand NVSlim has a great relationship and I congratulate him on it. Filipinas can be great but avoid the bar girls for relationships. If I met the correct filipina that was not a bar girl or former bar girl, my mind would be open to a long-term relationship.
I think the Philippines can be nice but you must leave Manila. It has to be the worst capital city in SE Asia.
Yellow Fever
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[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]A while back, perhaps last year in August I posted in this forum about PI living expenses and dating a bar-girl.
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Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I know it's popular to bash these women on this board and I suspect many times rightfully so but I would ask you and others like you in similar plight whether you were fully committed and faithful to the girl? This is not for you personally but generally is it ok for men to be unfaithful but demand unconditional commitment from the girls because you are the one financially supporting the relationship?
Some of these girls know who they are dealing with and are placing their hopes in as many baskets as they can because they never know when a man will change his mind dump them. Not making excuses for hookers but I understand why some of them are not fully committed, they are sometimes dealing with men who are not fully committed to them too.
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[QUOTE=Thatguy865]That was 22 years ago, as you said, Also with an Established College grad who already was successful by philippine standards.
First of all we are talking a generation ago when values were different, the country was different. There was no Internet to communicate with guys to sponsor you, web cams to entice a foreigner. Cell phones to text and make arrangements. The world was a much different place. No cable TV for a Filipina to see what was going on around the world, so they were much more naieve and less worldly.
Its mainly a sign of the times. Be glad you were here during those days when the women were more innocent and probably much less materialistic.
I recently met a Filipina in AC who didn't have a cell phone. I had a spare phone an older model. But stil in good working condition. I offered it to her for Free and she refused it because It didn't have a camera and wasnt a new model. Just shows the mentality of the Filipina today.[/QUOTE]I'm from " that generation" and met a smart Filipina from that era and weve been married ever since. No issues with materiality.
However, just to square the record, I have a cute and sweet gf who I have been seeing on my Manila trips. Shes not from Manila and takes a 3 hour bus ride to see me.
She never wants nor expects money but I sometimes bring her books ( she loves to read and try to expand her vocabulary). On last trip, I gave her my old phone, a sony ericsson whatever.. she ran to bathroom and wouldnt come out for 20 minutes. When she came out all make up smeared etc.. she had been crying that I would be " so generous ". So as expected, not all can be tarred with same brush.
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My gf does not has a birth certicate (lost by her mother) or valid id-card. And if i want to take her with me on a flight to for instance Boracay thats not possible coz she cant identify herself properly at the airport.
Today she told me that a friend told her that a post idcard is valid for travelling within phills. The costs are 300 pesos and turn around time 1 day.
Can any one tell me if this is correct?
Can anyone tell me what the costs are for getting a new birth certificate and for getting a passport as the next steps. She is trying to get this info as well but i want to make sure that im not getting scammed.
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IDs in the PI
She can go to the NSO office that handles the region in which she was born and someone there will explain the procedures to her. This being the Philippines, where form is everything and substance matters not at all, she will have to get two or three affidavits of people who know here swearing that she is who she says she is, and they will all have to be notarized, and prepared by an attorney on paper of a specific size, but it's not a difficult process.
GE
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You Get What You Give Out
[QUOTE=Nvslim]I have an exception to the rule. I married a lovely young lady from Q City 22 years ago. Met her through a friend. She was a college trained engineer working on her own designing houses. She is the one who took a chance on me not the other way around. I would say I married up. She is probably smarter than I am, much better looking, and still trim and fit after all these years.
I say she took a chance on me, as I was a mid-level enlisted military man. Did not have much money and lived in a one bedroom apartment. I was deployed regularly after we were married. While I was gone, she went back to college and got an AA degree in Computer science.
I was severely injured in a military vehicle accident and she helped the nurses tend to me. You know you must have a good wife when she will help change your colostomy bag.
She never asked for money to send her parents but does send home small amounts for birthdays and holidays. Even with me disabled, we are still doing ok. She works hard and manages our money very well. I have met most of her family and many relatives from California and Hawaii. All are upstanding and doing quite well in business.
I got really lucky and I thank my god each and every night.
Slim[/QUOTE]Nice to see another guy has a good woman from the PI. I married a gal from here 2 years ago and have not had a problem at all even in the states. Sure the relethives need some cash but who don't these days. I married here and finished the paperwork and we go back and forth from here to the US several times a year. When she first got to the cold ne region of the US she was wondering what kind of place I had brought her to. After spending several months there she could see that America was not what she saw on the TV screen. She was not liking all the added expense's we have in our own countries. She had no idea what living in the US was all about until she went.
I am sure most people here feel they watch TV and we all have a money tree tp fund our day to day life THATS WRONG. 99.9% of what she thought would be paradise was not anywhere to be found. Just like the first time we went on a plane ride here.
We have a nice home here in the Provence and a small biz that she oversees keeping here relatives working every day. Life is great and sure the continuous temptation still exists as far as the girls go. They all know us here and all want what they think she has but why make trouble.
These girls are just the same in most cases like gals from every corner of the globe. They all want a person to treat them nice have a good life and some security. They are not lazy they will work and help keep things going if the occasion arises. They are loyal as a dog most will not in-site trouble unless its forced on them.
Guys, I have has more ass than a 50 year old city buss but have seen the light as far as monkey-biz here. Sure I want the new gal walking down the street with the big smile and great body but not the trouble that goes with it. I noticed that most guys make there own troubles in the lady dept in most cases. They drink, and act an ass most of the time do nothing all day long and run the girls every chance they get. Where in this planet can anyone do this and not get problems after ha?
They sit and tell lies worse than most local residents and badmouth everything. Sure I was in that mode when I was single had the biggest mouth in the bar but found it was me not them. We all have to find some common ground to live here but remember we are not from here. We are looked at as ATM machines and that gets old. They see what the movies and TV have on and think we are all big-shots. If I never made more than 1-3 dollars a day and thought things were better in another country I would want to be on the next plane out as well.
The gals are savvy yes, but remember they react to what they see, as do we. They see some guy walk into a bar flash some pesos and do what he wants. The guy will tell every gal he sees how much of a big time charlie he is and they think "I have to get some of that cash" The funny thing is the guy saved hispaperrout money for 3 years just to take the trip. I can honestly say I never met a foreign man here that was not a VIP, prince, king, CEO, statesman, or some other kind of high end some thin. I met a guy that said his family had Aries to the inventing of the light-bulb! Yea no shit! Saw the same guy 3 weeks later and he was calling his friend to help buy a ticket home. I would have never in my wildest dreams thought I had to travel 9000 miles from home to be in the presents of such a financially diverse crowd.
Please know that there are more than one of us living here and back home having no problems at all being married. You have to want to be faithful and have some trust in order to keep things secure. No person who wants a different spinner on his pick every 2 hrs will ever find out how nice these gals truly are.
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Not exactly bashing the PI or the PI Women
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Sorry to hear about your misfortune. I know it's popular to bash these women on this board and I suspect many times rightfully so but I would ask you and others like you in similar plight whether you were fully committed and faithful to the girl? This is not for you personally but generally is it ok for men to be unfaithful but demand unconditional commitment from the girls because you are the one financially supporting the relationship?
Some of these girls know who they are dealing with and are placing their hopes in as many baskets as they can because they never know when a man will change his mind dump them. Not making excuses for hookers but I understand why some of them are not fully committed, they are sometimes dealing with men who are not fully committed to them too.[/QUOTE]
I am so happy to hear the good and successful stories. The PI cannot be a land of complete misery and hopelessness.
I do not want to bash the country or its people however I want my brothers here on this website to be aware of the dangers and pitfalls involved with dating PI bargirls, at least from my perspective. Now I should have known better too, because at the time I had the same advice, the odds are long against you but if you succeed you should be very happy. In my case I took the gamble and I ended up without success and it was a very expensive lesson.
Better to use them for the professional skills, not fall for the bullshit involved. I should probably be stripped of my senior membership and perhaps given a lifetime ban from the ISG forum for my foolishness.
We've all see it before, you don't pay them to stay, you pay them to leave. Don't forget this rule.
Another rule I've learned, bros before hos. For this reason I post my observations and experiences.
I'd love to have a PI girl. Most speak english well so communication is easy. Some of them can be really beautiful, all of them can at least pretend to be sweet, kind and geniune and the can be really passionate lovers. Just be aware, that dating a BG or former BG is a risky business. It changes their perspective on life and it rots their emotions.
One thing I do mention to almost all the BGs that I meet, is that in fact really I (maybe all of us mongers) are NO better than they are. They may be selling their bodies because for them it is all they have (most have poor education and not many opportunities) and they need to live. For us we are the customers. Our difference is we get to choose (to partake or not and which girl to invest in), while they really don't have much choice, it is take (just about any or this) guy and eat for tomorrow or go hungry. Kinda sad in a way. For this reason I actually feel for them and sort of respect them and disrespect them too. The working girls actual working career is very short (they get old and hardened quickly) and this is not a good profession to list on a resume for future work or a husband. Very complicated.
Just be careful out there. You want both parties (NOT just you but her also) to come out at least feeling satisfied. Their lives are not easy. Be careful and respect her and think with the big head.
Yellow Fever
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[QUOTE=Broko]My gf does not has a birth certicate (lost by her mother) or valid id-card. And if i want to take her with me on a flight to for instance Boracay thats not possible coz she cant identify herself properly at the airport.
Today she told me that a friend told her that a post idcard is valid for travelling within phills. The costs are 300 pesos and turn around time 1 day.
Can any one tell me if this is correct?
Can anyone tell me what the costs are for getting a new birth certificate and for getting a passport as the next steps. She is trying to get this info as well but i want to make sure that im not getting scammed.[/QUOTE]I am sure she is 18 or older, then she can get postal ID which is the fastest. She has to go to their Municipal Post Office, they will give list of requirement. At least a school ID is fine to show her identity, if again she has no school ID. She needs to secure a barangay clearance from an official proving that she lives in that area. In the province, everybody knows everybody. It will cost roughly no more than 300 pesos.
Passport. Dept of Foreign Affairs has released a new type passport two years ago. It is now digital and the process is more secure and difficult unless you have proper identifications you will be okey. At least you have to have a valid ID. 2 ID's would suffice. If she is a student, she can present her registration form and school ID, temporary transcript of record, baptismal certificate, nbi clearance and birth certificate from NSO. NSO office is in East Ave, Quezon City. She can get her birth certificate within that day if she opts to get it rush if not it would be a week. I think it's about 150 pesos to 300 pesos for birth certificate and additional fee for rush I suppose.
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Mongering Has No Effect On The Monger?
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2] It changes their perspective on life and it rots their emotions.
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....and what do you think it does to us?
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Effect on the monger.
[QUOTE=Illogic]....and what do you think it does to us?[/QUOTE]
The answer is obvious.
Hey, everyone has their personal weakness but we shouldn't have to expect that our commitments with a female partner (emotional, physical and financial + others) need to be symmetrical.
We are males and we have a different evolutionary requirements and history. In most cultures, the male were hunters and we are designed to 'spread our seed' while women stay at home and are designed to care and nurture. It is fact that we make millions of swimmers each day (smallest cell in the body), while a woman makes usually at most 1 giant egg each month (largest cell in the body) making it a very expensive thing to produce and maintain. We are just different.
It's a sad fact that a percentage of babies born to couples, the 'husband' is not the real father. I believe in some modern countries is can be 10% or even more that the child is not related to the actual father figure. Married women are on the sly too.
A BG may have lost her ability to 'care and nurture', whilst some mongers are perhaps 'super spreaders' in turbo overdrive with nitro boost.
We are not better than the prostitute but we are for the most part designed to be that way, they are not. Of course in our recent evolutionary past our social mores have changed, but in the even more recent decades body shapes have changed even more! Yuck. We can say that China is growing, not everybody but some.
Women are great stress relief (this is a given), for most men a girls will be the most expensive thing they can 'possess' or 'search for' and we spend an inordinate amount of time in the quest. No one wants to be lonely, we are social creatures.
Till death do us part and marriage pair bonding is a relatively new concept and it may have been more applicable when people only lived until 30 years old and much more difficult when people live until 70 or more. 'Traditional' values are difficult to maintain these days, our parents generation is quite different in terms of values and mores.
Mongering is a hobby but for some it is an addiction. The line between hobby and addiction is very faint. Some business guys, have 'normal/conventional' lives at home in North America or Europe but behave like addicts (including possibly BSDs) when in Asia. Hooray for them.
In my feelings and getting back to the evolutionary theme, the hunt including negotiating can be more enjoyable than the 'kill'. When I monger I am very much a budget monger looking for the best value. I do not get a girl every time I go out, I go out for fun and I take a girl when I want to. I don't need a woman everytime or even most of the time.
Free is of course the best value and I get my fair share. I do not exclusively look for prostitutes (BGs) as that gets old and tired very quickly. The web has been great for hookups.
I've noticed BGs on the circuit, sometimes in Singapore, you see the same girl in KL or in Hong Kong or in Shanghai. I've repeated with some BGs 3 or 4 years later (probalby would not do that again, they were better when they were fresh) and I've met BGs in Hong Kong that had seen me at a bar in Shanghai but we had never talked before at that time. I did not remember her but she knew me. I enjoy 'recommendation' sex, when one BG or even normal girl says good things about you to her friends...
Life is too cheap here in Asia.
I hope that one day to find 'the One' and live forever on our own island under a coconut tree thatched roof with our own sailboat and scuba gear catching fish with a speargun but I am also realistic. Hey maybe if we cut off all ties to the world, a BG could be a good option?
Another option would be to give up spending time on the hunt and get to work and do something productive but that is a discussion I will postpone for now. Maybe I should just shut up and get back to work. Message to self - good idea.
Yellow Fever
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[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]I am so happy to hear the good and successful stories. The PI cannot be a land of complete misery and hopelessness.
I do not want to bash the country or its people however I want my brothers here on this website to be aware of the dangers and pitfalls involved with dating PI bargirls, at least from my perspective.
I'd love to have a PI girl. Most speak english well so communication is easy. Some of them can be really beautiful, all of them can at least pretend to be sweet, kind and geniune and the can be really passionate lovers. Just be aware, that dating a BG or former BG is a risky business. It changes their perspective on life and it rots their emotions.
One thing I do mention to almost all the BGs that I meet, is that in fact really I (maybe all of us mongers) are NO better than they are. They may be selling their bodies because for them it is all they have (most have poor education and not many opportunities) and they need to live. For us we are the customers. Our difference is we get to choose (to partake or not and which girl to invest in), while they really don't have much choice, it is take (just about any or this) guy and eat for tomorrow or go hungry. Kinda sad in a way. For this reason I actually feel for them and sort of respect them and disrespect them too. The working girls actual working career is very short (they get old and hardened quickly) and this is not a good profession to list on a resume for future work or a husband. Very complicated.
Just be careful out there. You want both parties (NOT just you but her also) to come out at least feeling satisfied. Their lives are not easy. Be careful and respect her and think with the big head.
Yellow Fever[/QUOTE]
Generally, I agree with you and believe we are saying the same thing. I maintain though that these (doomed) relationships don't all fail because of dishonest and unfaithful hookers, dishonest and unfaithful males contribute as well, reading this board, you just don't get that.
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More on Relationships with BGs
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Generally, I agree with you and believe we are saying the same thing. I maintain though that these (doomed) relationships don't all fail because of dishonest and unfaithful hookers, dishonest and unfaithful males contribute as well, reading this board, you just don't get that.[/QUOTE]
I don't just generally agree with your writing above, I totally agree with it.
Probably 100% of the BGs tell themselves NOT to get involved (I've yet to find one that wants to date a customer but all want to get out of the trade) with their customers and 100% of the customers should feel the same way (a relationship with a B working out is a long shot) but life being the way it is, emotions come into play and relationships do happen.
I tried and I lost. In my case I was not playing games but trying to make a relationship work. I'm not sure I would have been perfect, most likely not, but until we ended I was faithful while she was caught in directly lies 3 times - over the same dude. In an ironic twist of fate, I was able to get back at him but the relationship was doomed. I swallowed my pride twice but at the 3rd time I knew it had to end.
Yellow Fever
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Personal expirience
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]
Probably 100% of the BGs tell themselves NOT to get involved (I've yet to find one that wants to date a customer but all want to get out of the trade) with their customers and 100% of the customers should feel the same way (a relationship with a B working out is a long shot) but life being the way it is, emotions come into play and relationships do happen.
I tried and I lost. In my case I was not playing games but trying to make a relationship work. I'm not sure I would have been perfect, most likely not, but until we ended I was faithful while she was caught in directly lies 3 times - over the same dude. In an ironic twist of fate, I was able to get back at him but the relationship was doomed. I swallowed my pride twice but at the 3rd time I knew it had to end.
Yellow Fever[/QUOTE]
I think most men do not want to fall for a Bar girl, its just something that happends, in one of your past posts you mentioned that Bar Girls dont take this line of work as their first choice and I agree with that. But as I read some of the posts by other posters if your nice and treat the girls well most of them would jump at a chance of a normal relationship with a client.
A word of advice dont swallow your pride, no one should have to put up with that crap not you nor an ex Bar Girl from a cheating bf. If you do all it does is make you a cynical cold hearted prick and it takes a long time to get back from that. I am still working on that.
Wizard
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Tips on relationships with Bar Girls
[QUOTE=Wizard561]I think most men do not want to fall for a Bar girl, its just something that happends, in one of your past posts you mentioned that Bar Girls dont take this line of work as their first choice and I agree with that. But as I read some of the posts by other posters if your nice and treat the girls well most of them would jump at a chance of a normal relationship with a client.
A word of advice dont swallow your pride, no one should have to put up with that crap not you nor an ex Bar Girl from a cheating bf. If you do all it does is make you a cynical cold hearted prick and it takes a long time to get back from that. I am still working on that.
Wizard[/QUOTE]
I agree about the pride thing. I have definitely become more cynical and less ready for a new relationship at this time. I'm having fun playing the field.
Although I would highly recommend against it, I think we should make some general ground rules for dating BGs if that is really what someone wants to try to do:
0. Don't do it. Repeat this as many times as necessary. It is a long shot, but if you want to try continue reading... (I tried these things but I was not successful)
1. try your best to have them end contact with their BG friends. Although their BG friends want them to succeed and get out (it is their dream too), they secretly want them to stay in the business, they are freinds and they need to support each other. Do you best to sever those parasitic relationships. Her friends are all garbage. If she had not met these people, she may never have become a BG in the first place.
2. if she is serious about your new relationship, I think it is within your right to have her phone numbers cancelled and she should be willing to delete all her contacts from her phone(s). Make sure you get all this information deleted. The average bar girl does not have backups on paper or on her computer of this information. Her backups will be her old BG friends that are still working, therefore you must try your best with rule #1.
3. you must make all efforts to close her email accounts, and check her Hi-5, Friendster, MySpace, Tagged, FilipnaHeart etc. sex advertising pages too. If she is serious about you, she should know it is pointless to advertise her desire for a new relationship. Ideally you will want to close the pages, otherwise you can do as I did and change the passwords on the accounts. In my case, we changed the password, she had 5 letters and I had 5 letters of the password. Therefore neither of us could see the accounts. I was prepared to give her my part of the password key if our relationship was pointless and we ended well.
I guess if you (the monger) were serious you should give up your social networking sites too, except for the ones related to YOUR BUSINESS or PROFESSIONAL LIFE. Her social networking sites are ONLY FOR HER PROFESSIONAL BG SEX LIFE.
I do not suggest or recommend you give up your phone number or contacts, presumably you are a business person have hundreds of non-sexual professional contacts.
4. Verify her expenses, she may get in the habit of padding them to help support her family. This is not necessary if she was honest about all the bills.
5. Don't accept to be treated as a walking ATM.
6. I'd like ideas of 'laundering' her past and allowing her to get an education or hold down a proper job. This may be very hard given many limited education and lack of any work ethic. Working girls are notoriously lazy except for housework. They will probably love to cook and clean for you, but if you needed a housekeeper, it is cheaper to hire a domestic helper.
Hey if you can afford it and she does not have to work, then why ask her to work?? The answer is simple, if you care about her you want her to have her own career so that when things get bad or end, she can have a good chance at a normal life instead of falling back to the bar life. In this way I tried to help my bar girl escape from the addiction and so-called easy money of the bar. Even though my BG had more than 8 months from the bar girl life, she returned to the bar life. I failed because she showed NO INITIATIVE. The bar is a trap, they can never get ahead in the bar - even they know it but they are trapped.
You want to break her past, clean turkey and not give her chances to return and live her previous "easy money high life".
As an addendum, we tried all the above methods and it was not enough. One day she told me that because I did not SMS her from my work she was bored and lonely and just because she wanted to see if it could be done, she tried to get onto her yahoo account. Well guess what, yes she recovered the password using the pasword recovery function and she began to chat with her former sponsor again. She had maybe 4 days of email exchanges with him before she made a mistake with her computer and could not get on the wireless at my home. So she asked me to fix it and during my fix I discovered she had checked this 'blocked' email account.
When I questioned her about it, she told me about being bored etc. and that she wanted to apologize for disappearing from her former sponsor. This was the second strike and at the time I tried to get her to leave (I actually told her to pack her shit and leave immediately) but she told me she wanted to stay and that she loved me. I had to swallow my pride, this was the second time.
BGs are PROFESSIONAL LIARS. It is part of their training. Maybe they can be reformed but it is hard.
Maybe I will write about the first pride swallowing in another post.
Any one else have more ideas/tips on how to 'fix' relationships with bar girls?
There is a filipina writing in this forum, perhaps SHE can give us some tips too!
I really wished my relationship would have worked, I tried hard to give her a good life and make her happy. my thought was if I can give her a good life, she will be even better and greatful to me.
Yellow Fever
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Yello Fever #2 , my POV only
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]I agree about the pride thing. I have definitely become more cynical and less ready for a new relationship at this time.
BGs are PROFESSIONAL LIARS. It is part of their training. Maybe they can be reformed but it is hard.
Any one else have more ideas/tips on how to 'fix' relationships with bar girls?
There is a filipina writing in this forum, perhaps SHE can give us some tips too!
I really wished my relationship would have worked, I tried hard to give her a good life and make her happy. my thought was if I can give her a good life, she will be even better and greatful to me.
Yellow Fever[/QUOTE]
I have just become a prick and it sucks when your friends tall you that when they see you interact with other people, dont go down that path its not a nice place to be.
I dont think they are proffesional liars I just think they will do what ever it takes to get the best outcome from a situation, would any of the "noble" mongers lie their ass off if they were faced with loosing their job or their careers because of something they did. My money is a large percentage would. We all have high morals but how many of those morals can we afford? To you and me out of 100 questions people ask us only 1 or 2 may have consequences tomorrow. In a case of an ex BG how many of the questions that you ask her might mean a difference between living with you going to collage supporting her family maybe marrying you and moving to a better place with you and having agreed to GFE sex that she wants to have with you, and being back in a bar rubbing some guys cock through his shorts so that later in the night he might stick his fingers up her ass or hold her head down for CIM and throw her an extra 500 peso tip for the privelage. (Worse case scenario but it does happend)
I dont think you fix relationship with people that you dont trust, I have tried and see my first paragraph you just become a prick ((my POV only). Not a BG just a normal girl that lied.)
I would also like to hear from the Filipina girl about her thoughts, but most Filipinas that have chosen to not work as a BG have very low opinions of BG anyway. Its an easy way out to sell your dignity and self respect. Their words not mine.
I wish your relationship would of worked too but the only thing I dont agree with is your last sentence. Get involved with a girl no matter where from because shes the right girl for you not beause you want to save her from being a BG and then expect her to be grateful. Just be happy that the person next to you on the couch or in bed is happy to be with you because they want to be with YOU not because you are a way out for them. I think too many guys try to be a white night and take them away from being a BG and the girls only want a better life no matter who the guy is. This is not an Asia only phenomenon if you have a job a house and a nice car you will always attract women from a lower socioeconomic status. So look for a GF that your really into because she makes you happy and smile every day that you are with her without regard of her being an xe BG or a secretary or a factory worker etc. but also look for a girl that would be with you if you had no money and no prospects, because then they love you for you and not for your passport or wallet. this might be just a big dream but why not?
Wizard
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Reply to Wizard with some clarifications
[QUOTE=Wizard561]I have just become a prick and it sucks when your friends tall you that when they see you interact with other people, dont go down that path its not a nice place to be.
I dont think they are proffesional liars I just think they will do what ever it takes to get the best outcome from a situation, would any of the "noble" mongers lie their ass off if they were faced with loosing their job or their careers because of something they did. My money is a large percentage would. We all have high morals but how many of those morals can we afford? To you and me out of 100 questions people ask us only 1 or 2 may have consequences tomorrow. In a case of an ex BG how many of the questions that you ask her might mean a difference between living with you going to collage supporting her family maybe marrying you and moving to a better place with you and having agreed to GFE sex that she wants to have with you, and being back in a bar rubbing some guys cock through his shorts so that later in the night he might stick his fingers up her ass or hold her head down for CIM and throw her an extra 500 peso tip for the privelage. (Worse case scenario but it does happend)
I dont think you fix relationship with people that you dont trust, I have tried and see my first paragraph you just become a prick ((my POV only). Not a BG just a normal girl that lied.)
I would also like to hear from the Filipina girl about her thoughts, but most Filipinas that have chosen to not work as a BG have very low opinions of BG anyway. Its an easy way out to sell your dignity and self respect. Their words not mine.
I wish your relationship would of worked too but the only thing I dont agree with is your last sentence. Get involved with a girl no matter where from because shes the right girl for you not beause you want to save her from being a BG and then expect her to be grateful. Just be happy that the person next to you on the couch or in bed is happy to be with you because they want to be with YOU not because you are a way out for them. I think too many guys try to be a white night and take them away from being a BG and the girls only want a better life no matter who the guy is. This is not an Asia only phenomenon if you have a job a house and a nice car you will always attract women from a lower socioeconomic status. So look for a GF that your really into because she makes you happy and smile every day that you are with her without regard of her being an xe BG or a secretary or a factory worker etc. but also look for a girl that would be with you if you had no money and no prospects, because then they love you for you and not for your passport or wallet. this might be just a big dream but why not?
Wizard[/QUOTE]
Agreed, I have become at least a minor cynical prick. I wish it were not so and hopefully it will pass. I really wish to have a long term relationship rather than a series of short ones. Maybe it will happen but the present time I am not ready and I make no excuses. I am also very upfront with the girls that I meet not to have expectations of LTR as I am not ready. I can only tell them it could happen in the future.
I think my writing about BGs being professional liars was a little hard but it is mostly accurate. It is not just the 'big' things they can lie about but little trivial things too, like getting your hands caught in the cookie jar. Most of the time they are honest and maybe even realistic but in the case when they are 'caught' they will lie with a straight face. Just be aware.
There is no such thing as a 'noble' monger. We can try our best to make our relationships good but we always have our weaknesses.
500 peso tip! Wow.
I am trying to be fair and I am very open minded when it comes to BGs. I treat them with respect as people with the goal of making them happy. If I can make her happy even for our short time together, I know I will be satisfied which is my ultimate goal. At the same time because of my experiences I am cautious.
I talk alot with my BGs about life and their experiences. I have learned much from them. They tell me most mongers don't really talk to them, only want to get their satisfaction and let them go. I rarely go for ST with BGs and I have time to talk with them. I found it amazing some of their stories. Many BGs are decent people in a difficult situation. Still many are lazy and only interested in the easy way out and that includes lying about trivial things.
I expecially talk with BGs that have 'managers'. I feel more sorry for them. Most BGs got into the trade because of poor advice from their 'friends'. In the majority of cases they would do better to stay at home and work 'SM' hypermarket for 5000pesos/month. Almost no PI BG can make financial plans, nearly all live month to month. Business can be difficult and is never guaranteed. They sometimes get beat up or given fake money. Hard for them to go to the police.
I do not have any experience with BGs in the Philippines but I have PhD experience with Filipina BGs outside of the PI. They may be different creatures inside and outside of their country. I have not met any PI BG outside of the PI that would work as a BG inside of their country. They are too shamed by what they are doing. However, unless their family at home is completely foolish they must know what they are doing when they are outside of the country. The money they send home is too good. Just no one admits the facts.
My BG had 'noble' intentions. She worked to earn money for her family so that they can get an education and no do as she did. The falicy with her logic is that she actually had a 4 year 'college' degree in the Philippines as an accountant but the she was tempted by this trade and never gave herself a chance to work in her field. Now I am don't even think she can spell Accountant. She may be good at numbers, she can ask for 1500RMB for all night but she will accept 500 if you bargain. Accountancy education does have its plusses!
I think my advice is fair and reasonable. Don't fall for BGs should be the most important rule, otherwise try the best to break the past. Ideally you want to hide it, bury and make it go away. It is a not a proud thing for her or anyone. Not that you should care about what others think about you and your private matters/relationships.
I am sorry for my words about being grateful. I regret writing them. They were not correct and fair. They were not at all the motivation for me to get involved with my BG. Love, caring, hope and respect were my motivations. My goal was to work hard together to make our relationship wonderful and successful but she pulled the rug from under our feet almost before we got started.
I am a cynical prick but I think not all hope is lost.
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Never Give Up
[QUOTE=Yellow Fever #2]Agreed, I have become at least a minor cynical prick. I wish it were not so and hopefully it will pass. I really wish to have a long term relationship rather than a series of short ones. Maybe it will happen but the present time I am not ready and I make no excuses. I am also very upfront with the girls that I meet not to have expectations of LTR as I am not ready. I can only tell them it could happen in the future.
I think my writing about BGs being professional liars was a little hard but it is mostly accurate. It is not just the 'big' things they can lie about but little trivial things too, like getting your hands caught in the cookie jar. Most of the time they are honest and maybe even realistic but in the case when they are 'caught' they will lie with a straight face. Just be aware.
There is no such thing as a 'noble' monger. We can try our best to make our relationships good but we always have our weaknesses.
500 peso tip! Wow.
I am trying to be fair and I am very open minded when it comes to BGs. I treat them with respect as people with the goal of making them happy. If I can make her happy even for our short time together, I know I will be satisfied which is my ultimate goal. At the same time because of my experiences I am cautious.
I talk allot with my BGs about life and their experiences. I have learned much from them. They tell me most mongers don't really talk to them, only want to get their satisfaction and let them go. I rarely go for ST with BGs and I have time to talk with them. I found it amazing some of their stories. Many BGs are decent people in a difficult situation. Still many are lazy and only interested in the easy way out and that includes lying about trivial things.
I especially talk with BGs that have 'managers'. I feel more sorry for them. Most BGs got into the trade because of poor advice from their 'friends'. In the majority of cases they would do better to stay at home and work 'SM' hypermarket for 5000pesos/month. Almost no PI BG can make financial plans, nearly all live month to month. Business can be difficult and is never guaranteed. They sometimes get beat up or given fake money. Hard for them to go to the police.
I do not have any experience with BGs in the Philippines but I have PhD experience with Filipino BGs outside of the PI. They may be different creatures inside and outside of their country. I have not met any PI BG outside of the PI that would work as a BG inside of their country. They are too shamed by what they are doing. However, unless their family at home is completely foolish they must know what they are doing when they are outside of the country. The money they send home is too good. Just no one admits the facts.
My BG had 'noble' intentions. She worked to earn money for her family so that they can get an education and no do as she did. The falicy with her logic is that she actually had a 4 year 'college' degree in the Philippines as an accountant but the she was tempted by this trade and never gave herself a chance to work in her field. Now I am don't even think she can spell Accountant. She may be good at numbers, she can ask for 1500RMB for all night but she will accept 500 if you bargain. Accountancy education does have its plusses!
I think my advice is fair and reasonable. Don't fall for BGs should be the most important rule, otherwise try the best to break the past. Ideally you want to hide it, bury and make it go away. It is a not a proud thing for her or anyone. Not that you should care about what others think about you and your private matters/relationships.
I am sorry for my words about being grateful. I regret writing them. They were not correct and fair. They were not at all the motivation for me to get involved with my BG. Love, caring, hope and respect were my motivations. My goal was to work hard together to make our relationship wonderful and successful but she pulled the rug from under our feet almost before we got started.
I am a cynical prick but I think not all hope is lost.[/QUOTE]Guys please don't think that every BG wants to do what she is doing. We all know why they do what they do so lets skip that info. I had a BG as a GF for over 6 months and I was the one who dumped her. She did nothing wrong and was 100% faithful. She got run around like a loose wheel by me just so I could see if she was true to me. Sure she tried a time or two to get some money for her family 1-2 thousand pesos but what the hell is that 20-40 bucks I guess that cheep enough.
I was the guy who wondered on her running around with my pick in my hand wanting others. I now feel the truth is I WAS THE LOOSER and SHE ALSO LOST. She is 100% flawless body wise and a great all around person. I had her quit the bar when I met her and she did just that. She was with me 24/7 with no cell phone at first. She seemed happy everyday and let me out when I wanted to go. I let her and paid for her to go visit her family whenever she wanted. This said we both worked well together.
I will however say this, I WENT THROUGH OVER 200 or more bg's in order to find this one. She was new 1-2 months in the bar and not many bar fines. I would give most gals the same pitch if they were potentially nice. After 1-2 bar-fines I would ask them about the bar, if they were happy with there work. If they said no I would make an offer. The offer was stay with me quit the bar and see how it goes I pay for everything. Now that being said this is much better than them staying at the bar and eating fish-heads on the 125-p a day they get for working there. Remember guys this was not in manila or some other high end bar, it was in a more quiet setting. We all can pick out the moneymakers from the shy in the back row gals that are buying some time to send money home. Ilook back at the bg's that used me and just laugh at what they missed. Sure I got upset when I found out they swindled me but that didn't last long. I might take a night off or go out late and see what happened. You can always find a replacement for a non committed type relationship gal.
With so many Nice gals working at hotels, stores, malls, anywhere really why do we have to get a game player? Sure its in most cases a sure thing I know but who wants that. I have seen far better looking girls working in other places not just bars. I was the inventor of "any port in a storm" But there are other options.
Please don't think that a non BG will not try "because of the relathieves to make you stupid for pera" This is a poor place they ALL frankly need money.
My advise here would be SLOW THE FUCK DOWN AND RELAX. Strike up a conversation anywhere you go and start talking to whoever you choose. Invest some time "give yourself a predetermined amount" and be nice. I am sure if you are just nice and respectful you can write your own ticket in the pants and hearts of any gaL in the country.
Never give up!
B. B.
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My pov? We all lie at some point. I sometimes lie because I don't want my partner to get hurt nor I wanted to lengthen an issue that is absurd or pointless. We all lie and we have reasons why we lie.
BG's lie because they had to do it or else they won't make money. I understand that you may feel insulted by this. I myself consider lying as the highest insult that a man can do, for they are underestimating my capacity of understanding.
Bottom line is. Get a girl outside the bar, at least you are far from getting a liar and close getting to a better woman.
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I've often wondered the same thing Illogic, and I'm not sure what the answer is for me. (Maybe paranoia, preferences for plaid?)
My son is almost an adult and I've been tempted to ask him along on a trip to the Philippines. But in the end, I think it's better that he learn about women and sex in the more traditional way.
Oh, back in my Navy days we had a newbie who was a virgin and had come from some hick town in a dry county. Upon arrival at Subic Bay, we took him out and got him drunk and laid. A week later I popped into an Olongapo bar and there he was drunkenly dancing with a go-go girl on each arm. He'd turned into a monster in one week.
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[QUOTE=Illogic]....and what do you think it does to us?[/QUOTE]
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Man filipina lie no matter whether bar girl or not. Lying is a sport to the average filipina. Its part of their culture. Its about saving face. They would rather lie than admit they are wrong or don't know something. They will lie about the most insignificant things. And when you catch them in the lie. They will lie about lying.