Beffen,
Thanks for the great report. And it's nice to hear that you also enjoyed the services of Fanni. Is she great or what?
H
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Beffen,
Thanks for the great report. And it's nice to hear that you also enjoyed the services of Fanni. Is she great or what?
H
Thanks guys for the comments. So the Oase girls are territorial eh? I have heard that they are a rough crowd. Well, I know I will do my best as we all should to increase the number of customers at Palace. Maybe they can add a roof top outdoor swimming pool for summer.
Beffen
Befto,
I would suggest at least an outdoor courtyard somewhere. That place needs a place to chill in fresh air. Like you said earlier, definitely a Winter venue, at least maybe a mid day nooner type venue before you go home to the wife and kids.
I passed on going to Oase the night I was at Palace since I had my hands full with the local girls. Quite a few of the girls mentioned how they disliked the Mangagement styles at both Atlantis and Oase. They also gave me the impression that they were more independent than the cliques or groups of girls that hang out toghether like they did during my stay at World. The Palace Girls tended to wander around by themselves, itting at the bar solo.
doooog
Carnal1
Palace is only lacking the outdoor facility and some more men. Summer will be a hard time. Most girls will change to Oase.
Oase girls were a little upset about the Atlantis-girl-invasion. But fights have ceased.
Hessen Bub
Let me ask a question about the strategy. I used to fuck 8-10 girls in one visit (the best use of 65e entry fee, isn't it?). I use Vigra or Cialis (similar result). The other tactic I used was holding the ejaculation till the last girl I plan to fuck that day (depend on selection in the club and energy I had I feel). That mean I ejaculate only once in fucking about 10 girls (my record is 11) in one visit. If I came earlier, it will take more time for me to get hard again. So use this stratigy, I can fuck more girls (10 girls in about 10-12 hours stay in one visit). Could you comment on if it is right thing to do (use Vigra, and holding back the ejaculation)?
Thanks!
#1980
Member 1980,
That is a well known and sometimes troublesome side effect of Viagra- delayed ejaculation- but 11 girls? Wow. The technique certainly does allow for maximal sampling during a limited timeframe. For me too, often it is the dance and continuing the dance that is moer important- it drives some girls crazy.
beffen
Beffen1,
What do you mean "troublesome side effect of Viagra", and "it drives some girls crazy"? Please explain. Do you think Cialis is better than Viagra? Any comments about these two recreational medicines? Which do you think is better?
I remember a comment by a member of this board: it is wonderful world--using GPS and satellites to track prostitutes, and using Cialis and/or Viagra to fuck prostitutes all day long.
BTW, can we use Cialis and Viagra together?
#1980
Member 1980-
Taking Viagra, and Levitra, can delay or even often prevent orgasm, in essence you have a very durable stiff piece of wood with no sensitivity. This effect is more pronounced as the dose increases. Very handy if you are a "collector" and want to do many women in a day.
Once a Viagra user, I use Levitra now- no stuffy nose or headache, the face flushing is not so severe as with Viagra, and it seems to take effect quickly whether you have recently eaten a meal or not. Also- I notice a considerable positive effect of Levitra the next day without another dose. I take a 20 mg tablet and just bite off little slivers all day, I usually have a chunk left over. I have no experience with Cialis. Under no circumstances should you take a dose of two of these drugs in the same 24 hour period. And if the girl breaks out amyl nitrate "poppers" to enhance your orgasm- run away.
More and more, during sessions, due to ageing, travel fatigue, and the drugs, I often encounter the "no orgasm" side effect of Vigra and Levitra and the girls know about this effect and sometimes scold or chastise me about my Viagra use. I have to tell them that the fact that I keep sessioning with them is proof that I love them and that it is the dance and not the finish that is most important to me. It usually works but I have had favorite girls in de Wallen of Amsterdam raise my price because I work them so hard all the time. One Eastern Soviet almost tiener asked me if I was a sex tyrannist after she came twice and I just kept on going. And I fear that Leona now will only see me as a threesome with Sammi for that reason- though I may be paranoid on that one.
Beffen 1
All,
Many thanks first to all those who have contributed to this forum. Your reports and advice have been very helpful in my first adventure into an FKK.
Flew into sunny and warm Frankfurt at 13:00 this past Sat. and checked into the Intercontinental Hotel with a view facing the suspension bridge on the Rhine. The DBB train ride from the airport to Hauptbahnhof was only 3.25 Euros one way. After chilling at the hotel, I took a taxi to Palace for 11 Euros. Got there at around 17:00 and paid the 65 Euros entrance fee. There were about 15 girls and about 10 guys. The girls were on average about 5-7 in looks, nothing outstanding. More girls with some 7-9s in looks started showing up at around 19:00.
Luisa: claims to be from Madrid, 30s-40s, brunette, hair down to ass, unenthusiastic BBBJ, MPCFS, tried to upsell with her toy but I said no thanks. Overall, uninspired service. Chalk this one up as an FKK rookie mistake.
Elvira: Russian fake blonde from Siberia, claims to be a former ballet dancer, 30s-40s, long hair, good BBBJ, MPCFS, extra 50 Euros for CIM. Much better than Luisa also in the personality department. Her English is quite good and she later introduced me to other Russian girls there.
Nadine: Lithuanian blonde goddess, 20s, fake 36D but well done, excellent body, 5'9" tall with hair to shoulders, tattoos on side of lower left leg. Excellent BBBJ, DATY, MPCFS, extra 50 for CIM. For me she clearly stood out among all the girls that evening. Nice personality too.
I also did a tanned blonde from Poland whose name I can't remember. She was in her early 20s, with well done fake boobs. Good BBBJ, DATY, MPCFS.
By this time, I had only just enough left in my tank for one more so I asked Elvira for a recommendation. She introduced me to this 20-something tanned dark blonde with a thick lower body and a well-shaped ass. I think her name was something like Tatiana (?). She said she was from Moscow. Her front teeth could use some work but other than that she has a great personality. Great BBBJ, and awesome doggy. This was my fifth girl of the evening so it took me awhile but she was patient and really got into the long doggy pounding!
By the time I finished with Tatiana(?), it was almost 23:00, things were getting crowded and I was spent so I called it the night. Overall, it was a great first time experience in an FKK. I ended up doing 5 girls with 3-4 providing exceptional service, for a total of 450 euros including the entrance fee and cab fares to and from the Palace. Would I repeat? Hell yes!
Cheers,
WW
Beffen1,
I am a "collector" that you described that I fuck many girls each visit and many girls in life. I feel very happy that I can fuck that many beautiful girls in the FKK. In San Fransisco, Mithal Brothers, I fucked a similar quality girl for only 10 minutes for $400 (can do 8 girls in FKK, each 30 minutes). That's why I enjoy fucking at FKK like cracy. Usually I do drive girls crazy for fucking each of them about 30 minutes. But I don't tell them I use Viagra. I pretend to come in the end. I hold ejaculation but still feel several orgazms each 30 minutes. I read from a magazine that man can reach orgazm without ejaculation. I feel that is my case. Unfotunately, I can visit Frankfurt only a very few times a year, twice last year, twice this year so far. Enjoy reading your report!
Member #1980
Beffer & 1980,
Call me old-fashoined, but getting as many sessions in as possible without finishing seems to me to miss the whole point. My strategy is to go for only three or four encounters on any given visit to the FKKs and then call it a day. But I want to finish each time.
If taking Viagra et al. prevents me from cuming, then this will prevent me from trying it, at least when I am at an FKK. If I wanted to please a women that I love and make here cum as often as possible all night, then I guess that Viagra could help with that strategy. But the girls at the FKKs are pros. They do not want to cum, they just want you to finish. So if neither side wants to finish, that can lead to very unsatisfactory encounters.
But hey, this is what's so great about the FKK scenece: every guy can come in their with his own strategy and will reach his goals.
Enjoy,
Euro
Gotta go with Euro 100 on this one. Also many FKK workers try to avoid the guys who obviously pop viagra and try to pound them hard for a full 30 minutes. They will tolerate this if you book an hour session, but otherwise they may avoid you. I have had girls point out to me guys at the clubs who, as they sometimes says are "not knowing how to fuck." meaning those who only use them as a "fuck machine."
By all means use the Viagra (or whatever) but use it wisely. Take your first session without and your second with. Just a suggestion.
There are exceptions to this rule but I have not met too many. Even the top acts.
Also, I have yet to meet a women, (pro or otherwise) who could not tell whether or not a man has cum. That is a whole mess of nerves that they have done there and, condom or not, they can tell. Lying only makes a guy look silly.
Dedalus
Hey, do you guy know from reading magazines or experience that man can reach multiple orgasms without ejaculation?
I think we should make girls used to be fucked close to 30 minutes instead of let them make you 1, 2, 3, paying.
I agree with Euro100 that "this is what's so great about the FKK scenece: every guy can come in with his own strategy and will reach his goals". If you don't want to fuck 30 minutes, you can fuck 20 minutes or 10 minutes, then chat with girl for rest of time or simply leave. Most of girls love the later the most. But I think most of man love to fuck longer. In FKK, 30 minutes, in some other countries, I used to fuck girls 1 to 2 hours. That's really fun!
interesting comments about being blacklisted as a viagra demon. dedalus and euro 100. i am not a power ficker. my object is to find a gfe rapport with a girl that makes me want to spend an hour or more in her company. most girls want to do longer sessions. member 1980, as for me i have never faked an orgasm with a girl i am paying for sex- i would just feel too silly doing it and trying to hide the empty condom from her afterwards. why bother faking- i payed her. hell, it gives us something to talk about. i just explain that i am on a sex marathon, very tired from travel and multiple girls, etc, and it is meeting all the young hotties and the sex dance itself rather than the finish that is important to me and they should not worry about their performance or reputation. this honesty often leads to an increased rapport with the girls- they view me as a "regular guy' and not a macho man (or maybe a weirdo or a wanker ;-). after this admission, you would be amazed at the stories about the business or their private sex lives the girls give forth, and how many photographs they allow me to take as "souveniers for the heart".
with girls i like, i tend to book one hour or longer sessions, often a lot of that is spent in cuddled dfk conversation and lighter sex play. the truth is, i am not capable of multiple orgasms per day any more, one or two is the norm to maybe three on a really good day. and again the viagra or levitra do not help with orgasms. my first session of the day is often without help and then i go into pharmaceutical stud mode.
also, i do not use the ladies as a fxck machine, unless she is a cold poor provider and then there is definately a "spite fxck" aspect to pounding her until the last second is up :-), but those i don't want to see again. anyway. i am sensitive to signs of fatigue and vary the routine to suit the girl's energy level as well as my own preferences. somehow, we find all sorts of "low-impact" but visually stimulating intercourse positions or other non-coital but still quite horny activities to occupy our all too short time together. one of my favorites is the patented beffen massage using deep tissue methods with the hands and elbows to relax a tired girl, interspeersed with deep orifice probing with the lips and tongue when she least expects it. these massages often take place after our paid session is over and we are "off the clock".
counting the days,
beffen
Beffen,
Lounging around with a girl after a session would be nice. I get the impression that it is a possibility for me sometimes, but I am usually reluctant to accept because it makes me uncomfortable not really being sure that I am not going to get an unpleasant surprise at the end when she charges me an extra 50 or 100 for the extra time spent just cuddling. In fact this happened to me once at another club.
I guess it helps to be with a girl who you know, but I usually like to hit every girl in the place, or as many as I can. I guess this is one of the disadvantages of infidelity.