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[QUOTE=Tim Bone]May I add Betty Boups in Soi 6, 1000B including room. The rooms are quite decent as well. Probably the best deal in Pattaya for this kind of arrangement.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't count, soi 6 is in a class of its own :-) For rooms, check Ruby Club (I think), recently redone. Includes flatscreen TV, can rent overnight for 700, but proper hotel better value.
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Cherry girl
[QUOTE=Shoebridge]Lol - I'm starting to think that there may be better countries for this. Philippines or Japan maybe. I know PI has "cherry girl" as a concept in some bars.
Are there any less reliable ways. My best advice so far is to go to the mamasan and just ask for a brand new girl and hope.[/QUOTE]I am new to Thailand but have been to the phils a few times. The cherry girls in the bars are generally young often more attractive girls who are there just to chat with customers and generate drink sales. Of course almost every cherry girl will one day lose her cherry, but typically this will either to be a local or foreign guy who pretends to love her and talks about an interest in marrying her. As the Koreans/Chinese guys will pay around $500 to do a genuine cherry girl, a bar cherry girl who decides its time to lose it will generally be marketed to these guys, not offered to some shmuck for 1500 pesos.
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Free lance was the way to go for me
[QUOTE=Mackin]Very nice. Hope i can find that kind of talent in a few weeks. Any hints on where you were looking.[/QUOTE]These were freelance girls I picked up on Walking Street in Pattaya. Also met a couple of them in Lucifer disco. I only took one chick form a go-go the whole time I was there.
Happy hunting! Don't forget to post for all of us miserable SOBs that are stuck at home.
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Breakfast Buffet get together at the Lek Hotel on 2nd Road, next to Mikes shopping mall! Tuesday 19th of January at 10AM.
Our breakfast get together was plan with myself, Tansak KTV and Daddy07, and Tansak KTV, though it would be a good idea to post it here as a invite to others who might be around that want to meet others from the site.
To be on the safe side, let me know PM if you plan to attend so that if it gets too large I'll make arrangements to have table set aside for us. The cost of Buffet breakfast at the leak is 110 baht.
LBM, is still in the dog house but should be able to make it.
ISG, T-shirts will go on sale for 199 baht, 100% Cotton comes in all sizes including xxxxxx and all colors.
LBM
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Typical Questions/Situations - Ways out !
How does one tackle these typical situations / questions in a go-go?
1. You are having a drink and a girl comes across starts the typical questions "you sexy maan" "where you come from". Etc. You don't fancy the girl at all. She asks for a LD. You are more keen to get rid of her and need time to decide if you would like to BF someone. After a few drinks.
- What's the best way to get rid of her?
2. You have liked a girl. Got the mamasan to call her or signalled to her directly. She comes and you talk. You offer a LD. In some time she calls another girl in the go-go. Now both talk to you. The first girl prods you to buy a LD for her friend as well. You give in and buy. Later both say that I BF both. And elaborate on how we can go dancing together. Boom-boom together later.
- Whats the most elegant way to tell the first girl that her friend is not wanted and she alone is good for the night?
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Pattaya trip
Hi this is my first report,. I've been a lurker for some time and benefitted from some excellent advice. Now I've finally got to Thailand and have some action of my own to report. I guess this will be old hat to you experienced mongers, but thought I would give some details that may be useful for those planning an initial trip.
It's my first trip to Thailand, I flew out from miserable London with Jet Airways. Highly recommended, great service except for security conscious stop over in Mumbai (make sure you don't buy Duty free in London as it will be taken off you in Mumbai as you need to go through the security again).
I had planned to spend a few days in BKK but was lucky enough to sit next to an old Thailand hand on the plane who advised me to head straight down to Pattaya where he said that the going rate for pussy was half the rate in BKK and Phuket.
I could have got the bus for about 165B but as a newbie decided it would be better to get a cab. Asked for 1500B but following the advice of my pal on the plane got it down to 1000B. This guy had suggested that I check out the Penthouse Hotel in Soi Pattayaland. I had read something about this hotel before generally very positive but with some people bad-mouthing it. Anyhow I figured as I had the cab I'd check it out for myself and if I didn't like the vibe, I'd go elsewhere.
My buddy had told me it was a boutique hotel and I could find cheaper places in the back roads but having looked forward to my trip and for so long, I figured this was no time for penny-pinching. Actually the room rates were better than I expected as they have now come off the 'High Season' rates and there was an excellent selection of rooms at the 1000.2000 Bt range. One look at the rooms was enough to dispell my doubts and I paid off the taxi and was offered a complementary welcome drink and cool towel as I checked in.
The flunky took my bags to my room and showed me the various gadgets. After years of staying in identikit business class hotels this place was a serious novelty. The rooms are covered in textured stucco. The bed is firm with crisp white cotton sheets its higher than most beds which I figured would come in handy for bending a young cutie over and ravishing her from behind.
The room has a 42 inch LCD which I may try and hook my laptop up to later. The room has a bewildering array of mood-lighting options. The default option is for a flashing gogo bar type effect, which doesn't quite do it for me. The room is complete with a gogo pool at the end of the bed. However after trying various permutations of switches I got the seductive warm glow boudoir look which is more my style. All these light options are a bit of a pain when you actually want to go to sleep as it takes 5 minutes to find all the switches to turn them off.
I took a shower and was plaeased to note that the tastefuly appointed shower room also featured full size mirrors which I would put to good effect later that day and decided to catch up on some sleep. Thankfully the room comes with complete blackout curtains which allowed me to sleep oblivious to the 30C sun outside.
I got up about 5. 30pm. I decided to take the precaution of putting my valuables in the safe under my bed. The hotel has an attached GoGo but I decided I would check out the action by walking along Beach Road which is just a stone's throw from the hotel. Though its now past the Christmas peak, Beach Road was humming with activity. Different sections of the road seem to be ocupied by different sorts, the young and wild types, the overweight girls. Who I am told mainly service the middle eastern visitors, the ladyboys and perhaps the majority. The mutton dressed up as lamb. I was told that the going rate was 500B short time but that seemed by and large the older women most of whom had had a baby.
After talking to quite a few I came across a slim girl without a baby who said her name was Bo, aged 22 and who agreed 700B for short time. I felt very self conscious walking back to the hotel given the age and height differential with my companion. Thankfully the hotel is very geared to this sort of thing so after handing over her ID card (no joiner fee or anything) we slipped inside the elevator to get to my room. Bo was pretty impressed with the surroundings and suggested that she take a shower. I asked if I could accompany her and after a little persuading she agreed. Remarkable feeling to get my hands on a cute young Thai girl's body for the first time. She rubbed the shower gel over her rather ample young breasts and then started rubbing the gel over me. Her delicate hands gently massaged the shower gel into my balls and then I used the shower head to rinse off the soap and beckoned her to take my cock into her mouth which she did willingly. She looked fantastic as she gave my member a thorough licking and the mirrors in the shower allowed me to see the action.
I took her to the bed and she sat astride me using the fuck rail above the bed to help bounce up on down me and allow me to take her ample boobs into my mouth.
I very satisfying session ensued. I have more experience in the Phils my initial impression is that the girls here are more skilled and professional but that one comes away with a much more "commercial" feeling. Look forward to investigating the matter further.
Bo only allowed some tame shots in the room and outside the room in the hotel atrium area hopefully my next girl will allow something more interesting.
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Day 2 Pattaya Trip
Here's a few pics of An. Reportedly 20 and seems around right. Quite a cute girl. I could live without the tats though. I do feel these young girls are really going to regret those in a few years time. Found her along Beach Road. 500B ST plus tip for pics
Re Mouse 1's question re noise levels at Penthouse Hotel. It's fair to say that people' don't come to the Penthouse or Pattaya in general for peace and quiet. The nightclub downstairs Kittens / Obsessions (Ladyboys) fires up around 8pm and quietens down around 2am. The rooms on the 2nd floor directly over the club are going to be booming during this time, but the rooms to the side or on 3, 4 and 5th floor are fine. Though geographically in the center of the action (which is generally a short walk in almost any direction, soi Pattayaland is not as busy as apparently it was before so the whole street is pretty quiet by 2. 30am.
Of course you are probably going to hear something of other customers coming back quite late but generally as its a relatively old well established hotel so the walls seem quite thick and fairly soundproof.
In general of course it's not a place that will suit everyone. Though I think you certainly get alot for your buck, alot of guys here are on a tight budget. Generally prioritized to booze and girls so will look for the cheapest place available which is never going to be afull service hotel. Similarly the hotel is a little eccentric and some guys are going to prefer a more standard place, but personally I am fed up with the standard hotels which I stay at on business so prefer something more memorable and more geared towards hedonistic sex, when in Pattaya.
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I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise worthless posts by Diceman, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.
This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.
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[quote=dosomegood]how does one tackle these typical situations / questions in a go-go?
1. you are having a drink and a girl comes across starts the typical questions "you sexy maan" "where you come from". etc. you don't fancy the girl at all. she asks for a ld. you are more keen to get rid of her and need time to decide if you would like to bf someone. after a few drinks.
- what's the best way to get rid of her?
2. you have liked a girl. got the mamasan to call her or signalled to her directly. she comes and you talk. you offer a ld. in some time she calls another girl in the go-go. now both talk to you. the first girl prods you to buy a ld for her friend as well. you give in and buy. later both say that i bf both. and elaborate on how we can go dancing together. boom-boom together later.
- whats the most elegant way to tell the first girl that her friend is not wanted and she alone is good for the night?[/quote]
1a: tell her politely that you are not interested.
1b: tell her that the night is young and you are not ready to pick a girl yet
1c: tell her more firmly that you are not interested
1d: ask if she is open to some more advanced stuff, i.e. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], rep001 etc
1e: show her an open sore
1f: ask if she will go bareback eventhough you have aids.
2a: tell your first choice that she is so beautiful you want to spend all your energy on her / are not willing to share her if they offer lesbian service
2b: tell her that you do not have the energy today to take two women, but maybe another day.
2c: tell her you cannot go dancing due to a) a bad knee b)an early commitment tomorrow c)prefer to make love rather than dance
junior
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[QUOTE=D Cups]If any of the recent posters have seen any large-breasted (D Cup - bolted is ok) Thai beauties in their travels, do tell! I am going to Bangkok and Pattya in March and want to minimize search time and maximize the boobage banging. I am particularly interested in soapies if you happen to find one I greatly appreciate a response. Happy mongering, you horn dogs! :)[/QUOTE]
I would suggest you take a look at Rose from the Devils Den in Pattaya. Big tits and solid in bed.
Photos available on their website.
Junior
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Very solid!
Fantastic tits and very skilled in bed.
Her ass is also available.
Italy 1974
[QUOTE=Junior]I would suggest you take a look at Rose from the Devils Den in Pattaya. Big tits and solid in bed.
Photos available on their website.
Junior[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Dosomegood]How does one tackle these typical situations / questions in a go-go?
1. You are having a drink and a girl comes across starts the typical questions "you sexy maan" "where you come from". Etc. You don't fancy the girl at all. She asks for a LD. You are more keen to get rid of her and need time to decide if you would like to BF someone. After a few drinks.
- What's the best way to get rid of her?
2. You have liked a girl. Got the mamasan to call her or signalled to her directly. She comes and you talk. You offer a LD. In some time she calls another girl in the go-go. Now both talk to you. The first girl prods you to buy a LD for her friend as well. You give in and buy. Later both say that I BF both. And elaborate on how we can go dancing together. Boom-boom together later.
- Whats the most elegant way to tell the first girl that her friend is not wanted and she alone is good for the night?[/QUOTE]
I try to avoid being rude or blunt in these situations as a general rule, so on 1 I usually say "maybe later". If she doesn't leave at that point she will after a little while when she figures out she isn't making any money from you. If she is seated then I sometimes just whisper in her ear that she is very pretty but tonight I want a different girl. Girls that are pushy for lady drinks usually are no fun to sit with and no good in bed, IMHO.
For 2 I would just say that it sounds exciting, but not tonight. Then hold firm on the "not tonight" line.
I can sometimes find it hard to say no firmly to *many* thai girls, *most* are so petite and cute that I don't want to be rude to them, but I don't want to be pushed around either, so it can be easier to stick to "not tonight" or "not now" since just saying "no" bluntly feels a bit harsh.
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[QUOTE=Dosomegood]How does one tackle these typical situations / questions in a go-go?
Q 1. What's the best way to get rid of her?
Q 2. Whats the most elegant way to tell the first girl that her friend is not wanted and she alone is good for the night?[/QUOTE]
A 1. Why get rid of her? Buy her a drink and say you are looking for a girl that looks like "X" and is willing to do "X". Tell her you'll buy her another LD if she finds you the girl you like.
A 2. Just say maybe tomorrow and that you just want to go with one girl for the night. Be firm, but make no commitments.
Cheers,
F2
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Secrets Bar
Secrets is a good bar but I gather from talking to hostesses at Secrets that they have some interesting management practices. Some of these practices are industry-wide but Secrets seems to take things a bit further in some respects.
Like most bars, if a girl gets sick she must pay her own bar fine, in the case of Secrets this costs her 400 baht per day but at Secrets she must pay double (800 baht) on Friday, Saturdays and Sundays unless she attends until midnight, thus you can sometimes see sick-looking gilrs on weekend evenings sitting it out until 12 so they only have to pay 400. The fine takes a big chunk out of her monthly pay of 4500 baht.
She will also have her money cut if she fails to meet a monthly target of 60 drinks and 8 bar fines.
If a customer buys her drinks and then she declines to be barfined by him, she will be fined 100 baht per drink she was bought if the customer complains about her not agreeing to go with him.
Oh, and she will be fined 100 baht if she does not drink tequila bought by management, that's 100 baht per tequila. You can see the mamasans going round periodically telling the girls to go and drink, if they don't drink they get fined even if they are with a customer. This compulsory drinking policy of course helps to keep the bar buzzing but here's the twist. On quiet nights (roughly half of the nights) girls may be expected to drink 10 tequilas. The idea appears to be that the girls will get too drunk to work on nights when there are too few customers to warrant their presence and management can save money as then each girl can be fined 400 (or 800 if it is a weekend night). Few girls can stay upright after 10 tequials and they often collapse in the locker room. Some of the girls hold the tequila in their mouths and then spit it out in the toilet but they will be fined if spotted doing so. This practice is also carcinogenic as the strong spirit damages the mouth tissue. Coyote dancers are banned from using the toilet while dancing so they do not have this option.
By the way the girls when sick will often pay for an intramuscular antibiotic jab so that they can return to work quickly. This is expensive and not good health practice.
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S.O.S. from Pattaya
Hi guys,
Finally I'm here. Not much time to read and write, so I will delay my reports later (maybe after journey) and go straight with my request:
Many things wild in Patts that you only know once you are there.
So, after weeks of reading and knowing secrets to make it here, eventually I found out an unexpected (for me) turn, giving me some trouble to solve.
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
I end up several nights at Bamboo, where the music is live, easy-listening and not so noisy, but quality of girls is average very low.
Is there another venue like Bamboo with better looking girls or where do you suggest I can find a cutie to pick up for longtime at my hotel without either callling expensive escort or going to those hell-like dens?
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Hi guys,
Finally I'm here. Not much time to read and write, so I will delay my reports later (maybe after journey) and go straight with my request:
Many things wild in Patts that you only know once you are there.
So, after weeks of reading and knowing secrets to make it here, eventually I found out an unexpected (for me) turn, giving me some trouble to solve.
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
I end up several nights at Bamboo, where the music is live, easy-listening and not so noisy, but quality of girls is average very low.
Is there another venue like Bamboo with better looking girls or where do you suggest I can find a cutie to pick up for longtime at my hotel without either callling expensive escort or going to those hell-like dens?
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Dude, have you tried some of the beer bars on Soi 6, 7, 8? Sure you can find one that fits your requirements with ample lights and not very loud music. Atmosphere there is also much more relaxed than on Walking Street.
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Quiet
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Hi guys,
Finally I'm here. Not much time to read and write, so I will delay my reports later (maybe after journey) and go straight with my request:
Many things wild in Patts that you only know once you are there.
So, after weeks of reading and knowing secrets to make it here, eventually I found out an unexpected (for me) turn, giving me some trouble to solve.
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
I end up several nights at Bamboo, where the music is live, easy-listening and not so noisy, but quality of girls is average very low.
Is there another venue like Bamboo with better looking girls or where do you suggest I can find a cutie to pick up for longtime at my hotel without either callling expensive escort or going to those hell-like dens?
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for that kind of taste you should go to the venues that are not that close to WS. All the bars outside are much more quiet. Soi 8, 7 only some , some are terrible, but soi 2 area or the beer bars on the other side of 2nd road opposite Soi 8 should do fine for you!
Mike
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Reality check...
[QUOTE=Joe Cose]Secrets is a good bar but I gather from talking to hostesses at Secrets that they have some interesting management practices. Some of these practices are industry-wide but Secrets seems to take things a bit further in some respects...[/QUOTE]Tough way to make a living. Not only are these women spreading their legs for strangers often almost three times their age, but they are compelled by monetary force to become, literally, alcoholics.
Little wonder many of them lose their looks and minds at a young age. Something to think about next time you are screwing a drunk, 20-year old Isaan princess?
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Haven't been, but from my research for my upcoming trip I came up with Pattya Beer Gardens off Beach Road ([url]http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/contact.htm[/url]). Would be interested in any feedback on it. Cheers
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Hi guys,
Finally I'm here. Not much time to read and write, so I will delay my reports later (maybe after journey) and go straight with my request:
Many things wild in Patts that you only know once you are there.
So, after weeks of reading and knowing secrets to make it here, eventually I found out an unexpected (for me) turn, giving me some trouble to solve.
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
I end up several nights at Bamboo, where the music is live, easy-listening and not so noisy, but quality of girls is average very low.
Is there another venue like Bamboo with better looking girls or where do you suggest I can find a cutie to pick up for longtime at my hotel without either callling expensive escort or going to those hell-like dens?
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[QUOTE=Engjoe]Haven't been, but from my research for my upcoming trip I came up with Pattya Beer Gardens off Beach Road ([url]http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/contact.htm[/url]). Would be interested in any feedback on it. Cheers[/QUOTE]
Certainly not the same action as the beigarden in Bkk, not even close but plenty of beer bars in front but the food is good and night you have a nice view!
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Certainly not the same action as the beigarden in Bkk, not even close but plenty of beer bars in front but the food is good and night you have a nice view!
LBM[/QUOTE]Don't get excited about those beer bars, they are the same as the other 1000 in Pattaya. If you want quality stuff just pay a little extra and stick to the go-gos. Shop around but you will find.
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Dude, have you tried some of the beer bars on Soi 6, 7, 8? Sure you can find one that fits your requirements with ample lights and not very loud music. Atmosphere there is also much more relaxed than on Walking Street.[/QUOTE]Agreed BUT soi 6 can get a little obnoxious due to harassment from Ladyboys and regular girls as well. I like soi 7,8 for beer bars, but go-gos have the best ladys.
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[QUOTE=D Cups]If any of the recent posters have seen any large-breasted (D Cup - bolted is ok) Thai beauties in their travels, do tell! I am going to Bangkok and Pattya in March and want to minimize search time and maximize the boobage banging. I am particularly interested in soapies if you happen to find one I greatly appreciate a response. Happy mongering, you horn dogs! :)[/QUOTE]Dude,
While in Pattaya you MUST go to the soapy near the big C with the large white columns. I can't remember the name. You will be pleased with the proper fishbowl you will find.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Certainly not the same action as the beigarden in Bkk, not even close but plenty of beer bars in front but the food is good and night you have a nice view!
LBM[/QUOTE]
I could never understand why the more 'respectable' looking Beach Road girls didn't migrate there; free som tam, no LE harassment, less 'obvious' to their countrymen what they are doing, and still quite centrally located; all for the cost of a drink.
I guess some things, like the Beach Road crawl, are just institutions and can't be changed.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Certainly not the same action as the beigarden in Bkk, not even close but plenty of beer bars in front but the food is good and night you have a nice view!
LBM[/QUOTE]...and for sad gits like me who have to work, it has excellent free wi-fi. I can sit there and do a day's work in a morning, with a great view and a cheap breakfast.
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[QUOTE=Fusnuts]Dude,
While in Pattaya you MUST go to the soapy near the big C with the large white columns. I can't remember the name. You will be pleased with the proper fishbowl you will find.[/QUOTE]
You mean Sabai Dee Massage? Be aware of the push up bra trick, those boobs may not be as big or attractive in the room as they appear in the fishbowl.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]You mean Sabai Dee Massage? Be aware of the push up bra trick, those boobs may not be as big or attractive in the room as they appear in the fishbowl.[/QUOTE]
The one you speak of with the white columns next to the Big C does have a very nice fishbowl. A tailor that I visit when I am in Pattaya cautioned me about going to any of those places in Pattaya because the service was not very good. He told me basically they pretty much try to get you in and out. He said most in Bangkok gave much better service. Not having much time before my flight left when I returned to Bangkok I tried this place out myself and sad to say my tailor friend was right....poor service and a rush to get you in and out although the girl was a least a looker.
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GF Hotel in PTT not far from Walking St.
Bros, advise please good hotel 4-5 stars GF in PTT. Not far from Soi 7,8.
Maybe somebody knows a good one? it would be the best with jakuzzi in a room.
Thank you!
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Hi guys,
Thing is that basically I hate loud disco music and dark crowded venues inside which you can barely see who you are talking to and you have to scream out just to start conversation. Obviously (for you, not for me before experiencing) in Walking Street all bars are more or less like this.
So, even venues like Lucifer or the Walking Street Bar where girls are pretty and you don't need to barfine suddendly revealed hostile territory!
I also tried to catch them on street before they go in but they didn't care and walked straight in. They look like they really want them ears bombed with that shit.
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I too don't really like the extra loud music at some of the more popular discos but sometimes its the best place to hang out for the best cuties.
So just do what I do, wear earplugs and most of the problems are solved (just remember to take them off when you find a gal so you can hear her)
PT
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[QUOTE=D Cups]Thanks, Fusnuts and Run Mann. Yes, I will ask for a bra-less demonstration! :)[/QUOTE]No No, Indeed the ones I saw were real for sure. Pay attention to the back row left side. Cant remember the name/number but it was fine. I'd say small D's which is quite unusual as you all well know. This was a quality session. I also tried one closer to walking street other side of the road. Has anyone tried the nicer looking one on the other side of the road a little in the direction away from walking street? I't's the one which is brick looking and probably the nicest building of the 3.
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thank you all, fun and sun and michi in particular.
i rented a scooter and managed to find soi 6 but a bit of disappointment once there: lots of girls looking sweet-sixteen, i mean i dig them young but not that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
on the other hand, i see some guys at my hotel always with fine girls and from what i got thru the grapevine i am under the impression that they got them on soi 2. ho does it works there? same old barfine or have to buy drink for the lady?
no idea now where soi 7 and 8 are, yet. by the way, can you suggest any bar in particular?
to the other guy suggesting go-gos...
well, i might afford it once in a while when i want to raise level of good looking girls. can you name one or two (the best in your opinion) and specify drink costs, barfine + rates?
thanks
[quote=michi]hi,
for that kind of taste you should go to the venues that are not that close to ws. all the bars outside are much more quiet. soi 8, 7 only some , some are terrible, but soi 2 area or the beer bars on the other side of 2nd road opposite soi 8 should do fine for you!
mike[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Ebaka]Bros, advise please good hotel 4-5 stars GF in PTT. Not far from Soi 7,8.
Maybe somebody knows a good one? it would be the best with jakuzzi in a room.
Thank you![/QUOTE]I have tried [url]www.timboutiquehotel.com[/url] and was satiesfied. They have some rooms with jakuzzi and they are gf:) Pretty close to soi 7 and 8 and with nice and clean rooms.
But when i brought 2 girls I had tp pay 300 for the second girl.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Thank you all, Fun and Sun and Michi in particular.
No idea now where soi 7 and 8 are, yet. By the way, can you suggest any bar in particular?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
If you are heading away from Walking Street then once you get to Soi 6 you have passed Soi 7 and Soi 8, so just go a bit slower on your scooter next time... :)
Come to think of it, if you walk up Soi 7 (or Soi 6 or Soi 8), they tend to blur a bit for me, when you get to second road you will see a bunch of beer bars there across the street where several are a bit more quiet. There is one (Lek's Tavern from memory) that has no music at all, and seems to cater mainly to the older, local (s)expat crowd.
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]If you are heading away from Walking Street then once you get to Soi 6 you have passed Soi 7 and Soi 8, so just go a bit slower on your scooter next time... :)
Come to think of it, if you walk up Soi 7 (or Soi 6 or Soi 8), they tend to blur a bit for me, when you get to second road you will see a bunch of beer bars there across the street where several are a bit more quiet. There is one (Lek's Tavern from memory) that has no music at all, and seems to cater mainly to the older, local (s)expat crowd.[/QUOTE]Yea, and it took me awhile to realise that the larger busy road between soi 6 and soi 7 is a road with a name not a number.
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[quote=sexual healing]thank you all, fun and sun and michi in particular.
i rented a scooter and managed to find soi 6 but a bit of disappointment once there: lots of girls looking sweet-sixteen, i mean i dig them young but not that [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
on the other hand, i see some guys at my hotel always with fine girls and from what i got thru the grapevine i am under the impression that they got them on soi 2. ho does it works there? same old barfine or have to buy drink for the lady?
no idea now where soi 7 and 8 are, yet. by the way, can you suggest any bar in particular?
to the other guy suggesting go-gos...
well, i might afford it once in a while when i want to raise level of good looking girls. can you name one or two (the best in your opinion) and specify drink costs, barfine + rates?
thanks[/quote]i liked the show at a go-go named something like evilwitch. i was quoted as high as 5000 at the gogo place with the space costumes. i think normally ltat a gogo is around 2000, but for me i sure wish i had done the one for 5k. so fine. take into consideration the entire cost of your trip and 1k extra per night won't seem so significant. mostly be honest with yourself about what you really want and you will be happy.
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[QUOTE=Fusnuts]Yea, and it took me awhile to realise that the larger busy road between soi 6 and soi 7 is a road with a name not a number.[/QUOTE]
You are referring to Pattaya Central Road (Pattaya Klang).
Lots of the numbered Sois have names as well.
You should have picked yourself up a free map of Pattaya which are found in just about every restaurant and hotel, or this one on the Net:
[url]http://www.guidetothailand.com/pattaya-thailand/map-pattaya-city.php[/url]
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Penthouse Suites
[QUOTE=Ebaka]Bros, advise please good hotel 4-5 stars GF in PTT. Not far from Soi 7,8.
Maybe somebody knows a good one? it would be the best with jakuzzi in a room.
Thank you![/QUOTE]
I would try the Penthouse Suites hotel.
You would be betwen walking street on the one hand and Soi 7/8 on the other and easy to walk/bhat bus between.
More importantly the rooms are specifically designed for sexual pleasure rather than being bog standard rooms you can find anywhere in the room. The Mid priced rooms up have jacuzzis in the room (the Party rooms have 2 jacuzzis). Other features include mirrors on the ceilings and walls so you can see eactly what naughtiness is going on, fantastic shower roms (iin the mid up rooms desiugned for fucking in the shower, gogo poles (pretty usefless unless you get LadyBoys who tend to be in to that sort of thing) Mood lighting, Sex Swings, Firm beds, indoor pool complete with slides etc - a buit chilly but plenty of nooky takes place there when a few guys BF a bunch a girls.
The web site gives a sense of the style of the p[lace though is frankly rather disorganised.
[url]http://www.penthousehotel.com/[/url]
Also don't be put off by the sometimes rather indifferent reception staff, insist on them showing you a few rooms so you get a feel for the options available.
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penthouse re girl friendly
Forgot to ad re girl friendly. of course the Penthouse is girl freindly. Theyu allow 2 thai joiners per customer with no extra charge. The bell boy once told me that a couple of dudes once took 15 girls to one of the party suites (which dont cost much more than a normal 4 /5 star hotel to celebrate one of their 50th birthdays. Not sure how many they actually managed to do but one hell of a memorable way to celebrate your half century. beats blowing out a bunch of candles any day LOL
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I would try the Penthouse Suites hotel.
You would be betwen walking street on the one hand and Soi 7/8 on the other and easy to walk/bhat bus between.
More importantly the rooms are specifically designed for sexual pleasure rather than being bog standard rooms you can find anywhere in the room. The Mid priced rooms up have jacuzzis in the room (the Party rooms have 2 jacuzzis). Other features include mirrors on the ceilings and walls so you can see eactly what naughtiness is going on, fantastic shower roms (iin the mid up rooms desiugned for fucking in the shower, gogo poles (pretty usefless unless you get LadyBoys who tend to be in to that sort of thing) Mood lighting, Sex Swings, Firm beds, indoor pool complete with slides etc - a buit chilly but plenty of nooky takes place there when a few guys BF a bunch a girls.
The web site gives a sense of the style of the p[lace though is frankly rather disorganised.
[url]http://www.penthousehotel.com/[/url]
Also don't be put off by the sometimes rather indifferent reception staff, insist on them showing you a few rooms so you get a feel for the options available.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fusnuts]I liked the show at a go-go named something like evilwitch. I was quoted as high as 5000 at the gogo place with the space costumes. I think normally LTat a gogo is around 2000, but for me I sure wish I had done the one for 5k. So fine. Take into consideration the entire cost of your trip and 1k extra per night won't seem so significant. Mostly be honest with yourself about what you really want and you will be happy.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean Angelwitch? If so I second that, it is probably my favourite a go-go in Patts. Shows always seem to start late though, and the 4 mama-sans are a bit pushy about getting tequila shots.
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Thanks a lot, guys! It's very usefull! Penthouse website is very. Modern.
What do you think about dirty sea and sands on the city centre beaches?
It is real dirty there? Some guys recommend me to be closer to south of Pattay. 10-15 min on Tuk-Tuk by Walking St.
Maybe it's bulshit and situation is same in 50km area?
Thanks for answers!
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Pattaya Police will Crackdown on Sex
ok i read this report and thought ok down ithere in pattaya practically the whole economy is based on pay for sex and there it's besotted with go go's, beer bars, brothels and bath houses. now as i read into this story it first appears that police just dont want any foriegners making money from thier investment in a bar that sells sex but thais aswell. enjoy the read and may all you newbies get a crash course on asian thai logic or what may also be known as thai culture. a culture that has been asociated with the phenomina of culture shock. its not shock my friends. it is your inner concience telling you something is wrong here.
here is the read:
police crackdown on foreign operated sex bars
pattaya: -- informed sources from several police divisions have told the pattaya times that a very serious crackdown will begin next month to catch foreign business people who are financial backers of gay bars, beer bars and a go-gos where there is sex for sale in pattaya.
these bars charge a "bar fine" to the customer and let the employee leave for the night or a "short time" usually about two to three hours. it is suspected that many of these rendezvous are sexually related, police said. police investigations will determine who pays the bills and gets the profits. if the person is a foreigner then their visa will be revoked and they will be expelled from the kingdom. if it is a thai they will be arrested if sex is for sale. there is much concern about organized crime in the nightlife venues, said one official.
"where did the money come from? who is behind it? where does the money go?" asked one policechief rhetorically.
in a related matter, there will be an interpol office opening in pattaya to help catch more than 2,000 foreigners wanted in thailand on various charges.
"keep in mind, thais are pretty easy to find compared to foreigners, thais have a mandatory national id card and associated number with a microchip of their history on the card. they must be registered in a
house book so that at all times there is someone who can say where the person is living if the police want to talk with them. this crackdown on foreigners built up to this point because it is relatively easy for us to disappear in the villages and big cities. or to simply leave the country," said drew noyes of pappa legal services in pattaya.
"i advise anyone who has invested in a bar that might be suspected of illegal acts to clear up the problem and make sure they are not associated with any business that is engaged in illegal activities. the thai police are taking this very seriously. sure, in the past we have heard rumors of crackdowns, but i don't think we have ever seen a crackdown like the one that is about to happen," said drew noyes, former three-term expat club leader and 13 year resident.
"there are many bars that we foreigners like to go to relax and part of the attraction of pattaya is this nightlife. if everyone will make sure that nothing offensive to thai culture occurs inside these places and no foreigner is associated managerially or financially by a paper trail with these clubs then this crackdown may not cause many people problems. it is great to see the police crackdown on **** sex, drugs and many of the associate problems that come with the bar business, but it is important that foreigners know the law and make sure bars they are invested in are not under scrutiny by the police for prostitution. there are ways to protect yourself now," managing director of the pattaya times drew noyes added.
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The question about penthouse is if they ever have done anything about the black mold in the bathrooms and musty smells there, too. That damp damage has been reported here several times. Location is great - facility is, unfortunately, NOT.
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well, globotto - it all depends on whose PALM gets greased. I guess the complaint is that the money doesn't STAY in MuangThai? Or at least that has been the issue in the past.
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Beach
Personally I wouldn't be keen to take a swim in the sea anywhere in the Pattaya area is it all smells of diesel from the idiots riding jetskis plus all the pollution from the hotels. Get a hotel with a pool. You can go and sit under one of the shoddy umbrellas on the beach if you like, but I think if yopu want a nice beach maybe you need to take a bike and drive some distance away. Don't come to Pattaya if you are looking for a bucket and spade holiday.
[QUOTE=Ebaka]Thanks a lot, guys! It's very usefull! Penthouse website is very. Modern.
What do you think about dirty sea and sands on the city centre beaches?
It is real dirty there? Some guys recommend me to be closer to south of Pattay. 10-15 min on Tuk-Tuk by Walking St.
Maybe it's bulshit and situation is same in 50km area?
Thanks for answers![/QUOTE]
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Penthouse
[QUOTE=Dinghy]The question about penthouse is if they ever have done anything about the black mold in the bathrooms and musty smells there, too. That damp damage has been reported here several times. Location is great. Facility is, unfortunately, NOT.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure when you were at the Penthouse last Dingey but I'm here now and my bathroom is sparkling, walk in with double showers black Italian style tiles and loads of mirrors. I agree with the other 2 posters about the Penthouse. It's a fun place, because whereas almost everyone else has just build a normal hotel or rooms with all the standard kit, this place has been designed specifically with erotic pleasure in mind. The only other place I've found that concept is in the Japanese Love Hotels. Dingey is right it doesn't have the antiseptic smell of normal upscale hotels and the owner is a bit eccentric, but personally I get more than my fair share of antispetic hotels with flash marble reception areas in my business life and I'm ready for something different when I come to Pattaya, but it takes all sorts.
Re the jacuzzi question some of the rooms here have them, the more expensive of course others not. Coincidentally a huge one arrived yesterday, they haven't figured how to get it up to the rooms yet so it was still on the pool table this morning. I think you're going to be able to fit quite a few cuties in there, but may need to take swimming lessons before you take a dip. Pic attached
PS next post I have some naughty shots of my latest girl in the bathroom, so let me know if you can spot the mold. LOL
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Mum to be
Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.
Actually when I first met her she claimed to be a little pom poi. I guess she had met alot of that 90%. She then claimed to be 4 months gone, but looks more like about 7 months to me. Anyhow the boobs and enlarged nipples are a real turn on for me. She's 20 and of course the Thai BF has done a runner so she's left in Pattaya to generate some cash before she goes back to Issan to have the baby and leave it with mum. Obviously some positions are out and I thought it prudent to leave the Penthouse sex swing for another day but she takes it in her pussy like a trooper (which I guess is how she got into trouble in the first place) and gives a damm fine soapy tit fuck in the shower and passable BBBJ. Her English is quite good and overall service attitude about average.
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time. PM your Thai cell no and I'll pass it on to her or your email and I'll email you hers. I'm a junior member so not I cannot PM you details I think. Don't mention you have seen the pics LOL.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]The question about penthouse is if they ever have done anything about the black mold in the bathrooms and musty smells there, too. That damp damage has been reported here several times. Location is great - facility is, unfortunately, NOT.[/QUOTE]
I am with Dinghy on this one. The Penthouse is an interesting hotel with some great facilities for the punter, but there have just been too many reports of cleanliness issues for me to want to stay there. I guess if you are willing to deal with mice or roaches in order to make use of the facilities it may be ok, but I for one am not.
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We choose [url]http://www.Sunsetpark.co.th/[/url] cool hotel with separate houses.
But, I can't find any information about GF in this hotel here.
Maybe somebody know this hotel or have any information about?
Anyway, thanks a lot!
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And what do you think about hotels Which are far from the centre of PTT.
Approximately 10-15 km. Are they GF too?
Whether happens that some hotel rejected access for a girl with you?
Ofcourse I understand, that the best way to "no problem" fuck in hotel it is try approved one from a list from here.
But it would be great to live in bungalow and fuck there))
Sorry for bad english.
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i recently went to pattaya and wasn't too impressed with the penthouse. a nicer hotel is on the corner of soi diana, in between [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and the devils den.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] has excellent bbbj with swallow, and devils den is superb - search my past report on same.
god i love pattaya!
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[quote=desertman]i recently went to pattaya and wasn't too impressed with the penthouse. a nicer hotel is on the corner of soi diana, in between [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and the devils den.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] has excellent bbbj with swallow, and devils den is superb - search my past report on same.
god i love pattaya![/quote]
whats the name of that hotel? which side of the road? same as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and dd??
btw... does anybody know the name of a hotel situated nearly across dd??
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[quote=dextro sol]whats the name of that hotel? which side of the road? same as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and dd??
btw... does anybody know the name of a hotel situated nearly across dd??[/quote]
i think the hotel across from dd is the billabong hotel.
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[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]I am with Dinghy on this one. The Penthouse is an interesting hotel with some great facilities for the punter, but there have just been too many reports of cleanliness issues for me to want to stay there. I guess if you are willing to deal with mice or roaches in order to make use of the facilities it may be ok, but I for one am not.[/QUOTE]
I think it's very much a matter of personal taste and what you value. There are some nice new mini hotels around Pattaya such as the Pasadena that JB is referring to. These offer simple, quite stylish new rooms which are easy for the cleaners to sweep clean. The lobby in particular looks very elegant, though I've never actually seen anyone hanging out there. However as far as the rooms themselves are concerned you could be in any city in the world. The Penthouse is an older hotel, though it has been upgraded many times. It is idiosyncratic and sprawling so not so simple to keep clean. If you are a particularly sensitive type who likes to clean his hands with cleansing fluid 5 times a day, you had probably better stay away. In the 10 years I've been coming to Pattaya I've mostly stayed at the PH, though I had a period of staying in some of the nicer places on LK Metro when there was a big price differential (which there no longer is). I can honestly say that in all that time I didn't spot a single mouse there. There are alot of roach traps as they had a bit of an outbreak a few years back but even then I only ever saw one or two and I haven't seen any at all for the last few years I've visited. My advice to any newbies would be to check out a few of these places, ask to see the rooms and make your own mind up.
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[QUOTE=Big Larry]Personally I wouldn't be keen to take a swim in the sea anywhere in the Pattaya area is it all smells of diesel from the idiots riding jetskis plus all the pollution from the hotels.
, but I think if yopu want a nice beach maybe you need to take a bike and drive some distance away..[/QUOTE]
No, forget about the drive, for a really nice beach and clear topical water to bathe in, just go to end of Walking St and take a 20b ferry to a nearby isle. Its easy and more enjoyable (unless you're the type that gets seasick)
Shark
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I did penthouse twice - 4 years ago for ONE night (allergic reaction to the mold) and then decided that maybe it was a fluke and tried them again 3 years ago again for ONE night. The musty smells permeating the whole room didn't do much for me. True, they were both "interior" rooms (no exterior windows)
IF it has improved, maybe I need another try (hell, it can only be one night to KNOW fer sure.)
Lately I stay in a place with lots of Thai. Seems it's a Thai working girl's place
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I am with you. I am that 10%
[QUOTE=Big Larry]Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.
Actually when I first met her she claimed to be a little pom poi. I guess she had met alot of that 90%. She then claimed to be 4 months gone, but looks more like about 7 months to me. Anyhow the boobs and enlarged nipples are a real turn on for me. She's 20 and of course the Thai BF has done a runner so she's left in Pattaya to generate some cash before she goes back to Issan to have the baby and leave it with mum. Obviously some positions are out and I thought it prudent to leave the Penthouse sex swing for another day but she takes it in her pussy like a trooper (which I guess is how she got into trouble in the first place) and gives a damm fine soapy tit fuck in the shower and passable BBBJ. Her English is quite good and overall service attitude about average.
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time. PM your Thai cell no and I'll pass it on to her or your email and I'll email you hers. I'm a junior member so not I cannot PM you details I think. Don't mention you have seen the pics LOL.[/QUOTE]It is so nice to have sex when she is soon to have a baby.
Ther body is so nice to.
Love them photo's nice.
All so love to see her one day.
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Nice
I am jealous Larry. Try as I might I was not able to find a preg woman last time I was in the LOS. Congrats on the find and on the marvelous pics. Way to go!
[QUOTE=Big Larry]Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.
Actually when I first met her she claimed to be a little pom poi. I guess she had met alot of that 90%. She then claimed to be 4 months gone, but looks more like about 7 months to me. Anyhow the boobs and enlarged nipples are a real turn on for me. She's 20 and of course the Thai BF has done a runner so she's left in Pattaya to generate some cash before she goes back to Issan to have the baby and leave it with mum. Obviously some positions are out and I thought it prudent to leave the Penthouse sex swing for another day but she takes it in her pussy like a trooper (which I guess is how she got into trouble in the first place) and gives a damm fine soapy tit fuck in the shower and passable BBBJ. Her English is quite good and overall service attitude about average.
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time. PM your Thai cell no and I'll pass it on to her or your email and I'll email you hers. I'm a junior member so not I cannot PM you details I think. Don't mention you have seen the pics LOL.[/QUOTE]
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Preggie girl
[QUOTE=Hotshanehot]It is so nice to have sex when she is soon to have a baby.
Ther body is so nice to.
Love them photo's nice.
All so love to see her one day.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the complement Hotshane and JohnnieB. I do feel a bit sorry for her as she is really struggling to find guys who are interested and is thus very low on the dough as it were. The irony is that there are a bunch of guys out there who like Johnnie be says are really looking to at least try a girl like this.
I agree with Hotshane that there is a huge difference between the body of a fat and lazy girl and the body of a normally slim girl who is pregnant where the flesh is firm and taught.
I just realised that as a free member I can't get PMs at all so appologies to anyone who has tried to PM for her number. I have to say I'm kind of impressed with her phlegmatic attitude to it all, she seems to very much be taking it all in her stride. I guess it's just par for the course here.
Last night I met up with another list member GregLondon who has been staying here and passed her number to him. He is a senior member on this list so you can PM him and he said he will pass on her details. But please only meet her if you are a sensible guy. If you are a young stud who wants to bang a girl's brains out for 2 hours there are thousands of others to choose from. I don't want to be responsible for any accidents.
Larry
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Preggie Girl
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]I am jealous Larry. Try as I might I was not able to find a preg woman last time I was in the LOS. Congrats on the find and on the marvelous pics. Way to go![/QUOTE]
I met up with Big Larry last night and he told me about this girl. Hes an ordinary member of this forum and hadn't realised you can't PM him. if you are interested to give her a spin drop me a PM and i can pass on her number. Can't believe what a nice guy I am. But go easy on her lads.
Dinghy, if you are alergic to things the PH may not be the place for you. They have lots of cats for one. All the rooms are different so best to take a look at a few and find one that suits you if you decide to give it another try.
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[QUOTE=Ebaka]And what do you think about hotels Which are far from the centre of PTT.
Approximately 10-15 km. Are they GF too?
Whether happens that some hotel rejected access for a girl with you?
Ofcourse I understand, that the best way to "no problem" fuck in hotel it is try approved one from a list from here.
But it would be great to live in bungalow and fuck there))
Sorry for bad english.[/QUOTE]
On my first trip to Thailand (in 1999), I made several newbie's mistakes, one of them was to stay in a NON-girl friendly resort in Jomtien (Pinnacle Grand Jomtien Resort & Spa).
The place was nice, but it was a bit far from the heart of Pattaya (hourly shuttle minibus service was available to Pattaya, but it was not possible to use it for coming back to the resort after 11pm or midnight - I don't remember exactly but it was not very late - and the last departure to Pattaya from the resort was at 10pm or 11pm). I usually had to pay a baht bus (songthaew) 100 baht for the return trip.
Needless to say that you have to choose the right girl and pay her for a LT session if you want to bring her back with you in this kind of hotel or resort. I did not rent a vehicle then, because it was my first trip to Thailand and I was a bit afraid about several matters (road safety being one of them as I was not used yet to drive on the left side of the road, I did not know the area much, etc.). So, if you've made the wrong choice with your girl, you're screwed (and not in the best way!) in this kind of place (especially when you are a newbie and don't know the area very well).
The joiner fee was 500 baht then, now, it's apparently 550 baht (an "extra person charge" is mentioned on their website). Impossible to avoid it when coming back with a guest to the resort after the night has fallen (the hotel security staff was very vigilant), but I successfully managed to come back a few times unnoticed in the afternoon with a girl.
I would not recommend it (I mean, this kind of resort or hotel). There are so many good and GF accommodations in Pattaya, it's not worth (IMHO) being too far away from the heart of the city, unless it's a GF place and provided that you have your own vehicle (or good transportation available 24/7 for a reasonable price), of course.
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cats don't bother me... especially "pussy" cats :)
mold/mildew allergy - actually rather common and in my case a bit severe - I carry my inhalers for "emergency".
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****
this girl looks, despite very pregnat, also terribly **** to me mate.
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Nirvana
Any experience with Nivana hotel?
I know it's a little far, but are there joiner fees especially for more than one lady?
Thanks,
Shaolin
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Pregnant babe
[quote=tony 1991]this girl looks, despite very pregnat, also terribly **** to me mate.[/quote]well she said she is 20 and the penthouse has a strict policy of checking the girl's id that she is 18+ as they know that their customers can land land in big and expensive trouble with **** girls and they confirmed her id says 20
larry
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Wrong thread!
[QUOTE=Shaolin02]Any experience with Nivana hotel?
I know it's a little far, but are there joiner fees especially for more than one lady?
Thanks,
Shaolin[/QUOTE]
Keep the hotelQ to the Pattaya Hotel Thread
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My opinion
i believed the hotel he was referring to as "in between [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and dd" is pasadena and the hotel "situated nearly across" from dd is billabong.
am planning another trip to pattaya soon.....
cheers
normad2020
[quote=dextro sol]whats the name of that hotel? which side of the road? same as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and dd??
btw... does anybody know the name of a hotel situated nearly across dd??[/quote]
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Help
Next week I would be visiting Pattaya for a week for the first time. I won't have enough time for mongering. So which of the bars are a must see for a beginner? And any advice for the best Massage Parlour? Is it possible to find Russian working girls?
Thanks for help.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]On my first trip to Thailand (in 1999), I made several newbie's mistakes, one of them was to stay in a NON-girl friendly resort in Jomtien (Pinnacle Grand Jomtien Resort & Spa).
The place was nice, but it was a bit far from the heart of Pattaya (hourly shuttle minibus service was available to Pattaya, but it was not possible to use it for coming back to the resort after 11pm or midnight - I don't remember exactly but it was not very late - and the last departure to Pattaya from the resort was at 10pm or 11pm). I usually had to pay a baht bus (songthaew) 100 baht for the return trip.
Needless to say that you have to choose the right girl and pay her for a LT session if you want to bring her back with you in this kind of hotel or resort. I did not rent a vehicle then, because it was my first trip to Thailand and I was a bit afraid about several matters (road safety being one of them as I was not used yet to drive on the left side of the road, I did not know the area much, etc.). So, if you've made the wrong choice with your girl, you're screwed (and not in the best way!) in this kind of place (especially when you are a newbie and don't know the area very well).
The joiner fee was 500 baht then, now, it's apparently 550 baht (an "extra person charge" is mentioned on their website). Impossible to avoid it when coming back with a guest to the resort after the night has fallen (the hotel security staff was very vigilant), but I successfully managed to come back a few times unnoticed in the afternoon with a girl.
I would not recommend it (I mean, this kind of resort or hotel). There are so many good and GF accommodations in Pattaya, it's not worth (IMHO) being too far away from the heart of the city, unless it's a GF place and provided that you have your own vehicle (or good transportation available 24/7 for a reasonable price), of course.[/QUOTE]I stayed there a year ago but managed to avoid your mistakes by bringing my own gal with me from BKK, and hiring a motorbike (OK, scooter) from a garage next door.
Otherwise the hotel was fine, with a reasonable beach and nice pool. I spent one very pleasurable evening shooting baskets from the pool, only to find that the Shrimp was actually better than me, and had been something of a netball star at school...
But yes, it would be a crap place to stay if you hadn't brought your own company. It is very definitely a family hotel (old fat Germans mainly :)) I also seem to remember that you had to pay for the shuttle bus and it would have been shockingly expensive.
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Lucky guy
Amazing pics of the preg girl. She was beautiful. I bet you had a great time. I love doing it to preg girls. Iam visiting Pattaya in March. I hope she is there till then, if she is 4 months preg now. What do you think?
Cheers
Ragoji
[QUOTE=Big Larry]Thanks for the complement Hotshane and JohnnieB. I do feel a bit sorry for her as she is really struggling to find guys who are interested and is thus very low on the dough as it were. The irony is that there are a bunch of guys out there who like Johnnie be says are really looking to at least try a girl like this.
I agree with Hotshane that there is a huge difference between the body of a fat and lazy girl and the body of a normally slim girl who is pregnant where the flesh is firm and taught.
I just realised that as a free member I can't get PMs at all so appologies to anyone who has tried to PM for her number. I have to say I'm kind of impressed with her phlegmatic attitude to it all, she seems to very much be taking it all in her stride. I guess it's just par for the course here.
Last night I met up with another list member GregLondon who has been staying here and passed her number to him. He is a senior member on this list so you can PM him and he said he will pass on her details. But please only meet her if you are a sensible guy. If you are a young stud who wants to bang a girl's brains out for 2 hours there are thousands of others to choose from. I don't want to be responsible for any accidents.
Larry[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]... I also seem to remember that you had to pay for the shuttle bus and it would have been shockingly expensive.[/QUOTE]
The shuttle bus was not that expensive (at least, in 1999). It was 50 baht per one-way trip then.
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[quote] The shuttle bus was not that expensive (at least, in 1999). It was 50 baht per one-way trip then. [/quote]10 years passed since 1999.
Anyway thanks a lot for your answer!
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[QUOTE=Big Larry]
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time. [/QUOTE]
Price is reasonable
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The Castle in Pattaya
I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Castle in Pattaya? For those not familiar it is a fetish type club. I am thinking of trying somthing different next visit but am not sure if that place is a clip joint or not. Anyone with some experience with this place please advise. Thanks.
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Castle is "different" - remember to wear black. Pretty straightforward, but no "heavy" stuff there. Ya gets what ya pays for as long as it's "light bondage" (of course some will whip you if that's your fantasy.)
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Taking a walk, down the world famous 'Pattaya City Walking Street'
[QUOTE=Hakan Demir]Next week I would be visiting Pattaya for a week for the first time. I won't have enough time for mongering. So which of the bars are a must see for a beginner? And any advice for the best Massage Parlour? Is it possible to find Russian working girls?
Thanks for help.[/QUOTE]Hakan,
Taking a walk, down the world famous 'Pattaya City Walking Street' is probably a must for a first timer. This is the street that 'Comes Alive' at night (late at night). Don't go during the day. There are many bars and Go-Go Bars. I prefer Angel Witch([url]www.Angelwitchpattaya[/url]). This is a Go-Go Bar with a pretty decent show. You might also find a few Eastern European places in a similar side street to this street. Sabai Land might be pretty good for a 'Soapy Massage' ([url]www.Pattayaphotoguide.com/sabailand-body-massage[/url]) but, I have not been for a very long time.
Enjoy your stay.
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[QUOTE=Ebaka]10 years passed since 1999...[/QUOTE]Sure! And I didn't come back there for reasons mentioned in my previous report. I don't recommend this place, and if even the somewhat reasonable fare for the minibus shuttle service is not reasonable anymore, that's just an additional reason for not staying there!
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The castle
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Castle in Pattaya? For those not familiar it is a fetish type club. I am thinking of trying somthing different next visit but am not sure if that place is a clip joint or not. Anyone with some experience with this place please advise. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Have not been johnny, but i short timed a beautiful girl from there and she ended up staying the night, i asked her about the place and she basically said you get abused soon as you walk in, i dont know much about this stuff its not my thing but she said they just hit you whip you, talk to you like a dog and generally abuse you. dont know if this helps?
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All 3 holes for 500B
Following on the interest in Big Larry's Preggie girl find I came across a beach rd girl yesterday who said she was an enthusiastic 3 holer. Not my cup of tea, but I know many guys into that struggle to find a half way decent girl so I took her no to pass on to anyone interested. Says her name is Yo, in early-mid 30s I would guess. Very slim, said she had a baby but i checked and no stretch marks, seemed reasonable boobs but I guess not firm, reasonably cute.
No further due diligence done so no it's a buyer beware. Keen to do everything inc ass for 500B. PM if you want her number.
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Castel
[QUOTE=Dinghy]Castle is "different" - remember to wear black. Pretty straightforward, but no "heavy" stuff there. Ya gets what ya pays for as long as it's "light bondage" (of course some will whip you if that's your fantasy.)[/QUOTE]
What if you are not submissive and looking for a subbie girl?
Be Safe,
APAC Man
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JB is DOM not sub
[QUOTE=Apac Man]What if you are not submissive and looking for a subbie girl?
Be Safe,
APAC Man[/QUOTE]
Right APAC Man, I was approaching this from the point of a DOM not a sub.
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[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]Right APAC Man, I was approaching this from the point of a DOM not a sub.[/QUOTE]
I am too, though not as active as I was in my younger age. It seems that in most of these clubs the WG are Domme and occasional subbies that you may find are males! I suppose it is easier, and safer, to fake being dominant than to fake being submissive. Also it seems that the majority of those who frequent these clubs are Japanese men that want to abused so there are no incentives for having submissive girls there.
Be Safe,
APAC Man
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Lingerie Shop
Hello Players,
Too lazy to RTFF, where can I find a spot in Patts and AC to dress up my girls in some hot stuff? I don't feel like stuffing those "clothes" in my suitcase. All responses will be sincerely appreciated!
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Sexy stockings and stuff
[QUOTE=Rxworker]Hello, Players,
Too lazy to RTFF, where can I find a spot in Patts and AC to dress up my girls in some hot stuff? I don't feel like stuffing those "clothes" in my suitcase. All responses will be sincerely appreciated![/QUOTE]In Soi Boukow, right opposite witherspoons is a cool shop sells all you need, if you don't know where witherspoons is, its next door to oasis go go, its the main drag through soi boukow.
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[QUOTE=Rxworker]Hello Players,
Too lazy to RTFF, where can I find a spot in Patts and AC to dress up my girls in some hot stuff? I don't feel like stuffing those "clothes" in my suitcase. All responses will be sincerely appreciated![/QUOTE]
In Pattaya there is a shop on Soi Buakhao in the vicinity of LK Metro (on the same side of the road as LK Metro).
It seems to have a good selection of sexy outfits, and is the only place that I have come across.
There are a few shops on Beach Road and Second Road that sell 'baby doll' outfits, but that as much as I have come across.
I don't know anywhere that sells 'toys' like vibrators etc.
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[QUOTE=Rxworker]Hello Players,
Too lazy to RTFF, where can I find a spot in Patts and AC to dress up my girls in some hot stuff? I don't feel like stuffing those "clothes" in my suitcase. All responses will be sincerely appreciated![/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.boutique-sexy-pattaya.com/index.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV][url]http://www.boutique-sexy-pattaya.com/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]OK, that video has confirmed my plans. :) Plane lands 5am Tuesday and it's straight into a limo for Pattaya. :) :)
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Na
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]The pics were taken Sept. 3rd, 2008. She does hang out opposite soi Yamato indeed. Seen her quite a few times there since then.
She's getting old but I still don't think that she looks "atrocious". You're being a bit harsh on her. I thought everybody had had enough of her. She's the most photographed Thai hooker ever, a legend! I've got only 2 more (well a few others too but they're not originally mine :) ). I am not that much into making photographs, sorry.[/QUOTE]I have been to Pattaya 6 or 7 times but I can never find this Na character. If anyone has any contact info on her please PM me.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I have been to Pattaya 6 or 7 times but I can never find this Na character. If anyone has any contact info on her please PM me.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I've lost my phone at least twice since I went with her and I am not even sure that she had a phone number to give to me.
But it is EASY to find her, I always see her withouth searching for her. Just sit on the benches opposite soi Yamato for one or two hours in late afternoon/early evening and have a few beers, she'll sure show up. She's always alone, never talks to any other girl. Next time I see her, I will ask her if she has a mobile # and if she does, it will be available here per PM.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]Sorry, I've lost my phone at least twice since I went with her and I am not even sure that she had a phone number to give to me.
But it is EASY to find her, I always see her withouth searching for her. Just sit on the benches opposite soi Yamato for one or two hours in late afternoon/early evening and have a few beers, she'll sure show up. She's always alone, never talks to any other girl. Next time I see her, I will ask her if she has a mobile # and if she does, it will be available here per PM.[/QUOTE]
I went with her about 7 weeks ago. I would say she still looked better than average, although not as good as the photos of her from a few years ago, but had a couple of dark marks on her back that I didn't know what they were. She didn't have a phone at the time. I will say this - I made sure to cover up with her.
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[QUOTE=Member #2041]I went with her about 7 weeks ago. I would say she still looked better than average, although not as good as the photos of her from a few years ago, but had a couple of dark marks on her back that I didn't know what they were. She didn't have a phone at the time. I will say this - I made sure to cover up with her.[/QUOTE]
Yes I think she's one of those "phoneless" hookers. Which indicates that she may do drugs but I am quite sure she doesn't. Her English is outstanding by the way, really impressing! Anyway she should have a phone, she could do a lot more business if she had one. Weird that she does not get it, I mean she's very savvy otherwise in respect to marketing herself.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Following on the interest in Big Larry's Preggie girl find I came across a beach rd girl yesterday who said she was an enthusiastic 3 holer. Not my cup of tea, but I know many guys into that struggle to find a half way decent girl so I took her no to pass on to anyone interested. Says her name is Yo, in early-mid 30s I would guess. Very slim, said she had a baby but i checked and no stretch marks, seemed reasonable boobs but I guess not firm, reasonably cute.
No further due diligence done so no it's a buyer beware. Keen to do everything inc ass for 500B. PM if you want her number.[/QUOTE]
What's her body like? Is she petite?
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yes
[QUOTE=The Scout]What's her body like? Is she petite?[/QUOTE]
very slim about 42 kg i guess
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Na ...
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I have been to Pattaya 6 or 7 times but I can never find this Na character. If anyone has any contact info on her please PM me.[/QUOTE]Just walk down Soi 13 (the soi where you also will find Sandy Spring Hotel). Very often you will find Na sitting at the northern end of the "island" in the middle of Beach Road, right where you come down Soi 13. She is taking drugs, and if she one day has a phone, the next day she does not have it any longer. She has sold it to get money for drugs. She also had a mail address, but it is not working ay more.
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[QUOTE=Big Larry]Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.
Actually when I first met her she claimed to be a little pom poi. I guess she had met alot of that 90%. She then claimed to be 4 months gone, but looks more like about 7 months to me. Anyhow the boobs and enlarged nipples are a real turn on for me. She's 20 and of course the Thai BF has done a runner so she's left in Pattaya to generate some cash before she goes back to Issan to have the baby and leave it with mum. Obviously some positions are out and I thought it prudent to leave the Penthouse sex swing for another day but she takes it in her pussy like a trooper (which I guess is how she got into trouble in the first place) and gives a damm fine soapy tit fuck in the shower and passable BBBJ. Her English is quite good and overall service attitude about average.
She is hurting for cash so anyone in that 10% up for a different experience she is available 600-700B short time. PM your Thai cell no and I'll pass it on to her or your email and I'll email you hers. I'm a junior member so not I cannot PM you details I think. Don't mention you have seen the pics LOL.[/QUOTE]Hi Big Larry,
I am defo in the 10% catergory. I will be in Patts in 4 weeks and would love to hook up with this cutie. How do I get her details from you? If I become a paid up member. I can pm you. But would you be able to respond if you are not a paid up member.
Moderator can you please assist?
Thanks
Talia
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Beat that
[QUOTE=Mouse1]OK, that video has confirmed my plans. :) Plane lands 5am Tuesday and it's straight into a limo for Pattaya. :) :)[/QUOTE]Plane landed 4.40am, and by walking briskly I was first to the immigration lane. Over to the baggage carousel and my bag was third off. Through customs and up to Arrivals where I was grabbed by a pink cab and agreed 1200Bht all-in to Pattaya. Drove off at 5.20am and arrived at Nova Park Hotel 6.30am. Not bad, eh?
But that's where the luck ended as there was no room available, so I'm now sitting in the Jameson Bar recharging both my laptop and myself with appropriate juice.
I have no plans for 3 nights, so if anyone fancies a beer then drop me a line. I prefer to hang around Soi 7 and Soi 8, but part of the hotel choice was to force me to look at different areas...
For various reasons I see these three days as a chance to recuperate and relax, so I'm looking for some very pleasant GFEs to warm the cockles of my heart. I have also booked a personal favourite from Devil's Den for tomorrow night, and if she does that thing where she bites her lip as I... Ooops, sorry, must stop... :)
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Plane landed 4.40am, and by walking briskly I was first to the immigration lane. Over to the baggage carousel and my bag was third off. Through customs and up to Arrivals where I was grabbed by a pink cab and agreed 1200Bht all-in to Pattaya. Drove off at 5.20am and arrived at Nova Park Hotel 6.30am. Not bad, eh?
But that's where the luck ended as there was no room available, so I'm now sitting in the Jameson Bar recharging both my laptop and myself with appropriate juice.
I have no plans for 3 nights, so if anyone fancies a beer then drop me a line. I prefer to hang around Soi 7 and Soi 8, but part of the hotel choice was to force me to look at different areas...
For various reasons I see these three days as a chance to recuperate and relax, so I'm looking for some very pleasant GFEs to warm the cockles of my heart. I have also booked a personal favourite from Devil's Den for tomorrow night, and if she does that thing where she bites her lip as I... Ooops, sorry, must stop... :)[/QUOTE]
Real GFE is rather hard to come by nowadays in Patts as most of the girls are wanting to get a bunch of guys short time. I just left Pattaya where i spent a couple of weeks witha girl Ive known for a year now. She's really trying to find a long term foreign partner to get her out of Pattaya but in the meantime is up for (paid) holiday flings. She's 28 but very nice figure no baby and very good sex and general GFE stuff speaks excellent English (but i helped her edit the stuff on her tagged profile so not quite that good) . Not into Devils Den Bottom Banditry. PM me if you are a decent quality guy and interested to meet her. She's a friend now so not going to hand her no to any shmuck just interested in banging as many girls as possible, gthat's easy to find in patts in any case
Her tagged profile is
[url]http://www.tagged.com/yalis2010[/url]
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Real GFE is rather hard to come by nowadays in Patts as most of the girls are wanting to get a bunch of guys short time. I just left Pattaya where i spent a couple of weeks witha girl Ive known for a year now. She's really trying to find a long term foreign partner to get her out of Pattaya but in the meantime is up for (paid) holiday flings. She's 28 but very nice figure no baby and very good sex and general GFE stuff speaks excellent English (but i helped her edit the stuff on her tagged profile so not quite that good) . Not into Devils Den Bottom Banditry. PM me if you are a decent quality guy and interested to meet her. She's a friend now so not going to hand her no to any shmuck just interested in banging as many girls as possible, gthat's easy to find in patts in any case
Her tagged profile is
[url]http://www.tagged.com/yalis2010[/url][/QUOTE]Seen her profile on a dating site too. Found the text interesting. Like "I'm looking for long-term and serious but if you just want fun, be honest as I also have bills to pay" :). You probably helped her write this text too.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]Seen her profile on a dating site too. Found the text interesting. Like "I'm looking for long-term and serious but if you just want fun, be honest as I also have bills to pay". You probably helped her write this text too.[/QUOTE]Yes Its really the position that most of the girls on DIA are in but they are not honest enough to admit it, so the guys pretend they are looking forfm a long term wife and the girsl pretend they can't do short term blah blah.
The bottom line is that most girls are looking fro a long term bond, if you are looking for short term fun and no strings and shes much younger and cuter than you, then you are generally going to have to pay up one way or another.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]yes Its really the position that most of the girls on DIA are in but they are not honest enough to admit it, so the guys pretend they are looking forfm a long term wife and the girsl pretend they can't do short term blah blah
The bottom line is that most girls are looking fro a long term bond, if you are looking for short term fun and no strings and shes much younger and cuter than you, then you are generally going to have to pay up one way or another[/QUOTE]"Most of the girls on DIA", not in my experience! Maybe most Pattaya girls on DIA would be more appropriate as Pattaya girls (even mainstream working girls) tend to be more open in respect to P4P for obvious reasons. DIA Bangkok girls are mostly mainstream Thai girls with a real job looking for a real boyfriend and are neither into even "subtle" P4P nor into guys considerably older than they are. I've chatted with several 25-30 year old cuties for example who were still virgin. They'd have sex before marriage but definitely not before a long-term relationship has been established.
I guess some guys are on the hunt for these girls, sweet talk them into going to bed with them and dump them afterwards. Not my style at all, especially because I am not into virgins AND because I'm trying to be as honest as I can (of course my P4P activities remain secret).
I am dating a cute Isaan BKK middle class girl though at the moment who is virgin but for some reason I can't help seeing her, she's extremely smart and never ceases to amaze me so I am just going with the flow and if I decide that I want to "pop her cherry", I'll definitely be serious about it and go for a serious relationship.
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Pregnant girl
[QUOTE=Talia]Hi Big Larry,
I am defo in the 10% catergory. I will be in Patts in 4 weeks and would love to hook up with this cutie. How do I get her details from you? If I become a paid up member. I can pm you. But would you be able to respond if you are not a paid up member.
Thanks
Talia[/QUOTE]I wouldn't get to excited about this pregnant girl, I appreciate big larry passing on her number, but when she arrived at my door she looked a sorry sight, and while the photos were the initial reason I wanted her in the flesh she was "rough" small, thick legs, blemishes and scars, big fat arse, a few sort of home made tattoos, will say she has a pretty face, but thats about it, apart from that her attitude was spot on, very skilled in the BJ department, finished in her mouth, and she took the lot. I thought it would be my cup of tea but, I wouldn't repeat it, I would say shes prob a fat girl anyway, without being pregnant. Nice hard tits.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]"Most of the girls on DIA", not in my experience! Maybe most Pattaya girls on DIA would be more appropriate as Pattaya girls (even mainstream working girls) tend to be more open in respect to P4P for obvious reasons. DIA Bangkok girls are mostly mainstream Thai girls with a real job looking for a real boyfriend and are neither into even "subtle" P4P nor into guys considerably older than they are. I've chatted with several 25-30 y.o. cuties for example who were still virgin. They'd have sex before marriage but definitely not before a long-term relationship has been established.
I guess some guys are on the hunt for these girls, sweet talk them into going to bed with them and dump them afterwards. Not my style at all, especially because I am not into virgins AND because I'm trying to be as honest as I can (of course my P4P activities remain secret).
I am dating a cute Isaan BKK middle class girl though at the moment who is virgin but for some reason I can't help seeing her, she's extremely smart and never ceases to amaze me so I am just going with the flow and if I decide that I want to "pop her cherry", I'll definitely be serious about it and go for a serious relationship.[/QUOTE]
Yes I generally only use DIA for Philly girls who probably constitute 80% of DIA females, I find it largely a waste of time for Thai girls. Maybe it would be different if I was living in Thailand and had the time to go the type of seduction process you are talking about, but i don't and therefore am looking for someone more immediately available.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]I wouldn't get to excited about this pregnant girl, I appreciate big larry passing on her number, but when she arrived at my door she looked a sorry sight, and while the photos were the initial reason I wanted her in the flesh she was "rough" small, thick legs, blemishes and scars, big fat arse, a few sort of home made tattoos, will say she has a pretty face, but thats about it, apart from that her attitude was spot on, very skilled in the BJ department, finished in her mouth, and she took the lot. I thought it would be my cup of tea but, I wouldn't repeat it, I would say shes prob a fat girl anyway, without being pregnant. Nice hard tits.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Diceman. She does look pretty good in the photos but I guess this can in some cases be misleading.
Still I think I will see for myself and report back.
Cheers
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Pregnant Girl
[QUOTE=Diceman]I wouldn't get to excited about this pregnant girl, I appreciate big larry passing on her number, but when she arrived at my door she looked a sorry sight, and while the photos were the initial reason I wanted her in the flesh she was "rough" small, thick legs, blemishes and scars, big fat arse, a few sort of home made tattoos, will say she has a pretty face, but thats about it, apart from that her attitude was spot on, very skilled in the BJ department, finished in her mouth, and she took the lot. I thought it would be my cup of tea but, I wouldn't repeat it, I would say shes prob a fat girl anyway, without being pregnant. Nice hard tits.[/QUOTE]
I've seen her in the flesh too, and for sure noone should be under the illusion that we are talking about a sophisticated elegant lady - which is probably why she has got banged up by her Thai Bf at aged 20 in the first place. She is just the typical issan girl who came to Pattaya to make some money doing short times. To be fair on Big Larry, I don't think he ever claimed anything different. I think she will be of primary interest just to those who have had a thing for preg girls or those who want to cross it off their "to do" list .
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I've seen her in the flesh too, and for sure noone should be under the illusion that we are talking about a sophisticated elegant lady - which is probably why she has got banged up by her Thai Bf at aged 20 in the first place. She is just the typical issan girl who came to Pattaya to make some money doing short times. To be fair on Big Larry, I don't think he ever claimed anything different. I think she will be of primary interest just to those who have had a thing for preg girls or those who want to cross it off their "to do" list .[/QUOTE]
No one has claimed that she’s a stunner, but she’s young, cute, very pregnant, with a sweet compliant attitude, and has good sexual skills. She really does need money for her baby. I’ve engaged her services twice, mainly for the novelty of doing a pregnant girl, and I enjoyed the experience both times. She’s a nice little girl caught in a difficult situation and I felt good about helping to support the little bun in the oven.
I hope she gets a ton of customers from this site.
Treat her nice. She's worth what she asks.
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Where to find real cuties and where to take them?
Hello,
I am heading to Pattaya the day after tomorrow, and will have just 2 days there before I head home. I could use a little advice on two topics:
1. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel, somewhere not far from walking street. Since I've only got two nights left, I don't mind paying for something that feels a little bit luxurious. Needless to say, extreme girl-friendliness is a must.
2. Any advice as to where to find real cuties? I tend to like 'em on the young (but legal!) side, small, pretty, and not too jaded (will sacrifice skill for innocence). I know that I can go from go-go to go-go, but any shortcuts would be appreciated. What is the going rate for such loveliness?
Thanks
p.s. I have just come through vietnam and cambodia and would be happy to reciprocate with info from there.
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[quote=phred phish]hello,
i am heading to pattaya the day after tomorrow, and will have just 2 days there before i head home. i could use a little advice on two topics:
1. can anyone recommend a nice hotel, somewhere not far from walking street. since i've only got two nights left, i don't mind paying for something that feels a little bit luxurious. needless to say, extreme girl-friendliness is a must.
2. any advice as to where to find real cuties? i tend to like 'em on the young (but legal!) side, small, pretty, and not too jaded (will sacrifice skill for innocence). i know that i can go from go-go to go-go, but any shortcuts would be appreciated. what is the going rate for such loveliness?
thanks
p.s. i have just come through vietnam and cambodia and would be happy to reciprocate with info from there.[/quote]
re hotels
i would check out the penthouse hotel in soi pattayaland about 5 mins off walking street
[url]http://www.penthousehotel.com/[/url]
there was a spirited debate about the place a week or two back and it does have its detractors, however as far as could tell, the detractors hadn't stayed there for a few years or were worried about stories that a guy had spotted a mouse there in 2002 and the like. i've just come away from 3 weeks there and especially if you are willing to pay a little extra (say around 1500b) for the mid range rooms you will get mirrors on the ceilings, mood lighting, jacuzzi/great walkin shower, 42 inch lcd tv, firm high beds, free breakfast. gaudi like wall exteriors. most of the detractors focussed on cleanliness but whereas complicated and esoteric rooms such as these aren't as easy to clean than a square boxed rooms i really dont think 90% of people will find it an issue. i'm now in cebu paying 25% more than that for a shabby box room with a pathetic 12 inch tv and a couple of 20 year old spongy beds. the only compensation is that the girls in the phils are in my opinion much better than the commercially minded thai girls. as for the girls, i suspect that you will have to go to the bars and gogos. the police have hassled the beach rd girls so that its primarily ****d/no id, or single mums, or high mileage girls that hang out there now. the bar fine rates are 300-450b for bar beers and 600b for gogos, you need to discuss with the girls how much they are wiling to go for but i think 1000-2000b would be the typical asking price. along walking street at night the freelancers/barfined girls that walk around or hang out in the discos etc will probably also go for 1000-1500b. in this area few will go for 500b especially the high end type you are focussing on. the gogos have a different character . if you are looking for the innocent (looking) 18-22 with a perfect body and cute face, i would head for the gogos about 300 metres down walking street on the left such as supergirls/windmills etc. these tend to focus on asian clients who are into that sort of looks, the gogos in say soi 6/8 are more focussed on western customers who are generally more attracted to the raunchier girls
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Thanks, GregLondon,
This is exactly the info I was looking for. Funny what you said about farang preferences for the raunchier girls and issues about room cleanliness. Raunchy looking rooms work just fine for me, even if they aren't quite squeaky clean. The opposite is true for my taste in girls (although I know that no girl is likely to be as squeaky clean as she looks!)
P
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On second thought
I find the Penthouse hotel's website a little bit off-putting, especially that they want you to provide a credit card payment for the entire stay up front.
Then, thinking about it. Do I really need the ability for pole-dancing in my bedroom? And how many years worth of accumulated secretions are likely to be soaked into all of that "interesting furniture"?
So. Does anybody have a suggestion for a similarly well-located place, but maybe with a little bit of a more modern elegant vibe?
(and one that still won't bat an eye at whoever might show up with me at various points in the night)?
Thanks again,
P
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Real GFE is rather hard to come by nowadays in Patts as most of the girls are wanting to get a bunch of guys short time...[/QUOTE]
Apparently we don't know the same Pattaya. It's very easy to find GFE with bar girls or FL. For Gogo girls, it's another story....(it's not impossible though)
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Be careful!
i just got back from thailand. in one of the pattaya go-go bars, just off walking street, i saw some very young looking dancers. after i bought one of these dancers a drink i asked her age.
she told me she was 17 years old and had worked at the bar just 2 weeks.
she may have been 17 but it would not surprise me if she was even younger!!
be very carefull!! i passed on this one and suggest that if you have any doubts that you do too.
after all the last thing we want is an encounter with the local "boys in brown" with accusations of **** sex!
regards,
hotman.
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[QUOTE=El Frances]Apparently we don't know the same Pattaya. It's very easy to find GFE with bar girls or FL. For Gogo girls, it's another story....(it's not impossible though)[/QUOTE]
Completely agree with you. GFE is much easier to find in Pattaya than in Bangkok in my opinion. And sticking to standard Pattaya rates almost guarantees a GFE.
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Answer to my own question
The delay for message postings by general members is annoying!
Booked myself into the DusitD2 for a total of $217 for two nights (including taxes, everything). By all accounts it's a pimping place and entirely GF. I will post a followup after all is said and done.
I have to say: The Penthouse Hotel may or may not be a fine place to stay but it seems to get a disproportionate amount of chatter on this board considering all of the other interesting options out there.
I just call 'em like I see 'em.
P
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[QUOTE=El Frances]Apparently we don't know the same Pattaya. It's very easy to find GFE with bar girls or FL. For Gogo girls, it's another story....(it's not impossible though)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]Completely agree with you. GFE is much easier to find in Pattaya than in Bangkok in my opinion. And sticking to standard Pattaya rates almost guarantees a GFE.[/QUOTE]
I third that. Usually in Pattaya I have to give a girl her money and tell her it's time to go, especially with overnighters. Also in Patts I never have to do any hard bargaining, if I have to discuss price at all. The standard is usually upheld. If it is not then I take it the girl really does not want to go with me and I move on.
In BKK it's usually a headache haggling over the price. Then when you get the price right and get to the room they want to try to leave earlier than the agreed upon time, or make excuses like they are hurting.
I always deal with FL. I did a bar girl once in Pattaya, but she came by at 4am, after her shift, so I wouldn't have to pay the bar fine. Beautiful girl and very nice. A little too nice. Turned out to be a starfish, but stayed until I kicked her out the next afternoon. She had the nerve to call me later that day and ask if I wanted her to come by again.
My only other bad deal in Pattaya was a 700B LT agreement I made in a disco. It was early, only about 11pm. We got back to the hotel and she didn't want to take her clothes off and shower immediately. So I sent her away and went back to the disco. Other than those two, all of my Pattaya experiences have been GFE.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I third that. Usually in Pattaya I have to give a girl her money and tell her it's time to go, especially with overnighters. Also in Patts I never have to do any hard bargaining, if I have to discuss price at all. The standard is usually upheld. If it is not then I take it the girl really does not want to go with me and I move on.
In BKK it's usually a headache haggling over the price. Then when you get the price right and get to the room they want to try to leave earlier than the agreed upon time, or make excuses like they are hurting.
I always deal with FL. I did a bar girl once in Pattaya, but she came by at 4am, after her shift, so I wouldn't have to pay the bar fine. Beautiful girl and very nice. A little too nice. Turned out to be a starfish, but stayed until I kicked her out the next afternoon. She had the nerve to call me later that day and ask if I wanted her to come by again.
My only other bad deal in Pattaya was a 700B LT agreement I made in a disco. It was early, only about 11pm. We got back to the hotel and she didn't want to take her clothes off and shower immediately. So I sent her away and went back to the disco. Other than those two, all of my Pattaya experiences have been GFE.[/QUOTE]
I guess this may be a question of what one considers as a good GFE which I think will depend on what is important for a guy. For me it would include not just not taking an early bath by pretending to have a heathache etc, but being someone with sufficient English and intelligence to be someone I would be happy to travel around with for say a month, felt able to trust and liked being with as a friend as well as just a sexual partner. Maybe it's me but I find such girls difficult to find in Pattaya, certainly compared with my experience in the Phils and other countries such as say Colombia.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
My only other bad deal in Pattaya was a 700B LT agreement I made in a disco. It was early, only about 11pm. We got back to the hotel and she didn't want to take her clothes off and shower immediately.[/QUOTE]
700 LT, tough in business! :D
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GFE's BKK vs. Pattaya
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I third that. Usually in Pattaya I have to give a girl her money and tell her it's time to go, especially with overnighters. Also in Patts I never have to do any hard bargaining, if I have to discuss price at all. The standard is usually upheld. If it is not then I take it the girl really does not want to go with me and I move on.
In BKK it's usually a headache haggling over the price. Then when you get the price right and get to the room they want to try to leave earlier than the agreed upon time, or make excuses like they are hurting.
I always deal with FL. I did a bar girl once in Pattaya, but she came by at 4am, after her shift, so I wouldn't have to pay the bar fine. Beautiful girl and very nice. A little too nice. Turned out to be a starfish, but stayed until I kicked her out the next afternoon. She had the nerve to call me later that day and ask if I wanted her to come by again.
My only other bad deal in Pattaya was a 700B LT agreement I made in a disco. It was early, only about 11pm. We got back to the hotel and she didn't want to take her clothes off and shower immediately. So I sent her away and went back to the disco. Other than those two, all of my Pattaya experiences have been GFE.[/QUOTE]
I think it's prob. easier for a GFE in Pattaya then in BKK as I have had to ask nicely that they leave the next morning in Pattaya on several occasions. This having been said though actually apparently I have a real GFE from BKK who texts and emails me semi-regularly. I am half waiting for her to hit me up for $$ but she hasn't yet, so who knows maybe she is the real deal.
One thing that I have found that works best for me is to deal with freelancers. I think one has a better end result if you are able to sit down and chat a girl up and develop some rapport. If this does not seem to be happening or you feel uncomfortable one can always move on. Plus neither of you are under any pressure to buy drinks so you can both focus on one another.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]No one has claimed that she’s a stunner, but she’s young, cute, very pregnant, with a sweet compliant attitude, and has good sexual skills. She really does need money for her baby. I’ve engaged her services twice, mainly for the novelty of doing a pregnant girl, and I enjoyed the experience both times. She’s a nice little girl caught in a difficult situation and I felt good about helping to support the little bun in the oven.
I hope she gets a ton of customers from this site.
Treat her nice. She's worth what she asks.[/QUOTE]
Daddy07,
You never cease to amaze me! You're my hero!
LBM
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I guess this may be a question of what one considers as a good GFE which I think will depend on what is important for a guy. For me it would include not just not taking an early bath by pretending to have a heathache etc, but being someone with sufficient English and intelligence to be someone I would be happy to travel around with for say a month, felt able to trust and liked being with as a friend as well as just a sexual partner.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. But the only difference between yours and mine is that I would have to say someone I would be happy to travel to Koh Larn with for a day. I would never even consider being with a WG for a month (hardly want to be with a non-pro that long), because they know (because I have been told by them and they have mentioned seeing me in action) as well as I do that I am going to see something else I want the next day. If that was not the case then I would have just stayed married to my wonderful ex-wife.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Absolutely. But the only difference between yours and mine is that I would have to say someone I would be happy to travel to Koh Larn with for a day. I would never even consider being with a WG for a month (hardly want to be with a non-pro that long), because they know (because I have been told by them and they have mentioned seeing me in action) as well as I do that I am going to see something else I want the next day. If that was not the case then I would have just stayed married to my wonderful ex-wife.[/QUOTE]
I hear you on that one. My tactic is to get a bisexual girl or at least one that's happy to have threesomes/let me have short times, then I get the best of both worlds, getting to be real friends with a girl plus sexual novelty.
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Tai Chi in Pattaya
Hi all,
I'm gonna be hitting Pattaya again next month and since this will be my second time around and I will be staying longer then the very first time I was there (1,5 day) I was hoping some of you might help me out. I'm looking for a serious Tai Chi course in Pattaya (gives me something to do during the day). I've already searched for them online and found only one. I want to attend one that is as authentic as possible and would appreciate any info on this.
Thanks,
Wookie
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I hear you on that one. My tactic is to get a bisexual girl or at least one that's happy to have threesomes/let me have short times, then I get the best of both worlds, getting to be real friends with a girl plus sexual novelty.[/QUOTE]
See that is smart. I had one FL tell me that she wants to come stay with me whenever I am in Thailand, but no problem because I could do all of her friends as well. Maybe I should have jumped on that chance. If I still have her number I better give her a call when I get there next month.
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Saturday Night in Patts
so i took the bus down from ekkamai. here are some tips for you newbies interested in taking the bus. first, plan at least 2.5 hours from the time of departure, depending on traffic. so thinking backwards, if you want to have your face nuzzling cozily between the breasts of an over-eager gogo dancer by, say 10pm, you need an hour for pre-gogo meal, an hour or so for the taxi/bus ride from the station to the hotel, and shower, two hours on the bus down to pattaya, and half an hour to an hour for the bts ride, plus wait between scheduled buses at ekkamai. so that means you should plan to leave your hotel in bkk no later than 5pm or so. i actually usually try to be out the hotel by 4pm at the latest.
the bus sometimes makes detours to drop off individuals in the back country, which is incredibly frustrating. the bus makes a 15 minute detour to drop one person off. phphphp. but just be patient and go with it.
the second tip is don't try to flag a bus down - go to the ticket counter, buy a ticket, and make your way to terminal 1. you can't miss it - it's where the horn dog single males are congregating. this time, as the bus was exiting the terminal, an obvious tourist (he looked italian, but don't ask me how i could tell) steps in front of the bus and tries to flag it down. he obviously thought this was how things are done, as he saw nothing wrong with it. the driver saw him, and simply ignored him. the bus ploughed on, and at the last minute, the frightened tourist lept out of the way with a very puzzled look on his face.
so, when you exit the bts, look for the signs that point you to the bus station. go down the stairs, and when you get to street level, turn around and walk 100m or so the other direction - the terminal is on your left. look for the sign that says "pattaya" and pay the lady. one seat is 113 baht. if you are a portly gent, or an nba player, you might consider buying two seats, since they are a little tight. i am 5'10", 150 pounds, and i find the seats are just a little tight for me.
so i arrived, and grabbed a motocy - a motorbike taxi. there are at least two choices when you get off the bus. the first, perhaps most popular, is the baht bus. you can't miss them - as you exit the bus, there are touts directing you towards these 'buses'. they are not really buses in the traditional sense - they are just pick up trucks with a canopy and seats in the truck bed. the fare is 20baht from the bus terminal, but 10baht if you catch it anywhere in town (i.e., you pay a premium for getting to and from the bus station). the pros of the bb are that it is right there, waiting for you, everytime the bkk bus rolls in; it is pretty cheap; they make a direct route down beach rd, so you are likely to get dropped off somewhere near your hotel. the trick though is to know where to get dropped off, so if you are unsure, tell the driver, and he will stop at the right place and tell you to get off. they are very good about this - they recognize the difficulties of being a newbie.
the cons are that it takes a long time, and often the drop off is not too close to your hotel (unless you are right on beach rd.). i decided to give nova platinum a shot this time, and never having been there, and given its slightly odd location, i opted for the motorbike taxi. obviously, if you have a ton of luggage, this is not the option for you. i had a small duffle with a change of clothes, some toiletries and a boat load of condoms (one can hope, no?), so it was no problem.
i got dropped off, got a room in a jiffy, and up i went. the rooms at this hotel are ok, not particulary special. i would say the lobby and pool are something like 3.5 to 4 star, but the rooms are closer to 2 star. the room i got (which they made a big deal about being a deluxe room) was anything but. it was old and tired, with worn out counter tops, old worn out furniture, and old, worn out decor. but fuck, i am not here for the interior decorating. the walk-in rate is 2200 baht per night (high season), but 1800 discounted from an internet reservation, which i think is probably worth it. in august i stayed here for 1300 baht, but they made clear that is the off-season rate, reservation rate.
shower, shave, and out i go at around 7pm. the walk to walking street is around 10 minutes through the back roads (soi 16). one could take the baht bus from just outside the hotel, and it would drop you 100m from the beginning of walking street, but i opted for the walk. it was the strangest walk ever, too. as i walked down soi 16, i noticed this was an area heavily populated by arabs (and, i guess muslims in general). all the signs were in arabic, there was halal food being advertyised everywhere, and no more than 20m down the street, i could see signs like 'eat my pussy agogo" and "butt fuck while standing bj bar". ok, i embellish on the names, but you get the idea. why is this weird? well, as i walked down the street, surrounded by scantily clad women walking to their gogo/bar jobs and men wearing arab garb, i heard the muslim call to prayers from just behind a metal fence. it baffles me to see super religious people in this supposedly immoral location. (i actually find pattaya to be a deeply religious experience, each and every time, but that's a different story). i mean, i fully understand the need to be here - as bill maher says, we are men, and we just want to get our nut off. so yes, i see that, but when that desire conflicts with the rest of your way of life...i don't know. i'm not criticizing my muslim friends, i'm actually sympathizing - i think it must be a very conflicting experience. and this holds for all the other religious people too, we just can't identify them as obviously as the muslim call to prayers does (how do you tell that the guy next to you eating banana from the gogo girl's pussy is a baptist minister from oklahoma?). enough of the religious commentary.
i grabbed something to eat, had my double espresso from starbucks, and waited for the caffeine to hit the system. i felt the rush beginning, and it was only 9pm. i think 9pm is a good time to begin the crusade. it is happy hour at many gogo bars, and the girls are still getting warmed up. so i hit several bars, this time determined to avoid getting overly beered up.
beach club.
i like beach club - it has a cool vibe to it, even if the girls are not to my taste. they also have cheap draft (60b?), which is a great way to get me in there. they have a series of smallish tables with seats around them and the girls dance on the tables. what makes this place though is the outfits they wear - they all wear this neon green mini skirt, with nothing on under them. they are also wearing these oversized white boots, which make their legs look really skinny. this is why i don't care for the place - i like athletic, muscled legs, not scrawny, skinny bones. nonetheless, the view you get looking up at these girls is great - they sometimes look down at you and smile, which kind of sucks. i prefer when they are turned the other way, and you are looking right up at the undercarriage of a pair of buttocks. mmmmm, taaaaasty. occasionally, when the music changes, the girls move one table over clockwise. this is a great moment, coz you get to see the girls in a long-legged stretch as they reach across the gap to get to the next table.
so i watched for 20 minutes or so, sipping watered down draft beer. no one really caught my fancy. well, that's not true - there were two girls who had the body that i was looking for (not petite, athletic, nice rump), but not the face. being in the pursuit of perfection, and given the early hour, the decision to bail was as easy as they come.
it was now 9:30, and i wanted to catch the angelwitch show at 10pm. half an hour to kill, what shoudl i do? i decided to stay in the neighborhood and go to club misty. this is a crappy establishment, i know from previous experience, but there was this one girl there in may who had the absolutely perfect pair f butt cheeks. they were the stuff of porn mags, i kid you not. the last time i was there, i was eyeing her and was about to make my move when some dirty fuck from the isles of britain swooped in and grabbed her. actually, he was a very well dressed, well groomed, decent english gent, and i think he took her home and sunk those british teeth int0 the most sumptuous butt flesh in pattaya. so i wanted to see if she was still around, sans british teeth, of course.
as i approached the door, i noticed there was another gogo bar next to club misty that i had never seen before - it's called something like 'smiles agogo', or 'always smiling agogo' (help me out anyone?). so there was this cute young thing eating outside the joint, and she sees me approaching and she does a two-clap and says "okay!" usually, i ignore such actions, but for some inexplicable reason, i mimicked her two-clap and shouted "okay!" and headed directly to her. she ditched her food, jumps up and as i approach her she says "oh thank you thank you thank you thank you." with her right hand on my back guiding me into the correct door, she does a reach around with her left hand and grabs my cock (!), and literally leads me into the door by my cock. yah.
as i enter, my train of thought was 'she's leading me by my cock! is that right? umm, this place is a real dump. but hey, she's leading me by my cock.'this is a small club, with old, tired dancers. the selection on display was abysmal, and the selection sitting along the sides was even worse. i don't think i have seen as many stretch marks in one place since a friend of mine, thinking it would be funny, sent me a video clip entitled "shyla stylez boob squeeze.mpg" and when i opened it, it was a clip from "granny gets butt fucked", or something like that. haha, yeah. so if it weren't for this cute young thing yanking little kumbu, i would have done an aboutsie and just walked outta there. but cutie leads me to the completely empty seating area, sits me down, and promptly mounts me and starts to dry hump the hell out of me. as she does this, i slowly begin to become cognizant of some details.
she is young, cute and well proportioned. she seems to have some reallyt nice legs, and her boobs, which are right in my face, point in the right direction (up) and are about the right size for me. her face is really quite attractive - beautiful eyes, and a pert, full set of lips. her cheek bones are high and prominent - just as i like them. she has long well tended hair, and she flicks it like a good stripper should. she is wearing a white school-girl shirt, buttoned half way up, and is wearing some kind of black bustier underneath it. she has short-short jean shorts on, and sockless tennis shoes. in short, she looks like a young, athletic school girl. school girls are not usually my thing, but she was so well proportioned (and not in that stereotypical skinny, childish manner either, much more of a woman's dimensions) that i could not help but admire.
so after 2 minutes of dry humping, the waitress is sent over by the non-amused mama san to make her some money. i order the draft, and the cutie jumps off me to go get it for me. she runs over to the bar and makes the order herself. in the meantime, the old vultures who had been watching this shamless young kid take the only male meat this joint has seen in the last week all descended on me like the vulnerable lion cub that i am. three ladies, were suddenly upon me, one looked like she was 45 years old, the other like she was in her late thirties, and the third looked in her late 20s (although she as so weathered, i would have prefered the thirty-something to her). it was a motley crew if there ever was one. they tried to get my attention, one of them pinching my arm to make me look at her, the other shouting thai words at me (no idea what she was saying), and the third being more coy, and simply making googly eyes with me. i felt distinctly uncomfortable at that point - it was like one of those teenage horror flicks where the zombies are slowly encroaching the circle of light in which our heroine is stranded. so i looked over at cutie getting my beer, desperately hoping she will return quickly. she stood there at the bar, undulating at the music, peeking over at me once in a while. damn, she had a great set of legs. i couldn't quite tell what her bum looked like, as the tight jean shorts seemed to camoflage the real dimensions (denim tends to do that).
so she returns, hands me my drink, and re-mounts me. hump, hump hump. beautiful. she was so aggressive in her humping, i started to laugh. about 30 seconds into this second session, she starts to unbutton her school girl blouse, revealing her push-up bra. i don't mind push-up bras, even though they are essentially a form of false advertising. but they do one good thing - they aggregate all the disparate boob flesh and present it all in one concentrated area for your viewing pleasure. and it turns out, tonight, all that aggregated boob flesh was there for my nuzzling pleasure too. she sticks my face into her boobs and says "you like?"
no chance to answer, as my face was entirely enmeshed in her chest. suddenly, she pulls my face out, and starts to kiss me. i no likey the kissy kissy, especially with swine flu being as prevalent as it seems to be. but fuck me man, you can't turn this down. my hands were everywhere, her lips were everywhere, my cock was bulging. some time passed, maybe 10 minutes, maybe 30 seconds, i can't tell you, but after that time, she pulled away from me, and i suddenly became aware of the dozen or so hags sitting there watching this embarassing scene. oops, heeheehee. but they were literally glaring at us, and this suddenly made my cock wilt toally down to its starting position.
cutie must have sensed this, and she gets off me and starts to hand-rub my flagging erection. as she does this, we finally get some conversation in. she asks me my name, but seems uninterested in anything else (i.e., the typical questions you usually get were never asked, e.g., where you from? how long you stay in pattaya? you working in thailand? etc.). she told me her info: name is mina, age 20yrs, been in pattaya 2 yrs, mama and papa live and work in nana in bkk (hmmmm), will go for lt for 2500, plus 600 bf, but if no want, can do st. this girl, let me tell you, is a multi-tasker. while she was carrying that conversation, her left hand had made its way down to my crotch and was ferreting out my now diminished erection. she eventually found it, tucked off to the right by my leg, and she started rubbing and stroking. i had jeans on, so the actual sensation was minimal, but the thought of this was very cool.
in the meantime, two vultures had arrived and were angling for a lady drink. i thought to myself, wtf? why would i buy these irrelevant human beings squat? what have they done for me...ever? but cutie says to me, buy us three drinks, and then that's it. nothing more. promise. so now i did my calculation. do i want to take this girl tonight? not sure - it's still so early, and being the one-pop wonder, if i take her, that's the deal for tonight. so maybe i should decline. but (and of what a nice butt she seems to have), this kind of chemistry doesn't come along every day, and i could simply not imagine having a bad experience with this little firecracker. so i decided to hedge my bets. as these thoughts are going through my mind, mina senses my hesitation to buy the drinks, and i think this is a face thing - if you can get the clown to splurge on your friends, you take a step up in the social scale. i am all to aware of this, and i have occasionally played the game to get what i want. so she sees me working through the possibilities, and just to help me make my decision, she moves her head down to my crotch, and using her lips and teeth, she starts to grind my cock. again, the sensation was minimal, but the thought of it was great.
needless to say, i agreed to the three lady drinks, not because of the air bj, but on the logic that i would splash out some cash now, then bail and cruise the other joints on walking street. if i find nothing that beats this, i would return.
after the drinks arrived, we drank up, and she asked me if i wanted to take her out. i told her yes, but that i was meeting a friend at 10pm (lie) at angelwitch. so i would meet him and return for her. i told her to wait for me, and the cute little thing agreed in a snap, jumped right off me and gave me absolutely no attitude whatsoever. often, when you give a bullshit story like that, the girls pout or try to change your mind or get you to bf now and then return when you are ready. this carefree attitude was so refreshing, i could totally imagine myself returning to grab her for the night.
paid up (total cost was 555 baht), and as i left, those fucking vultures said to me "give me tip, give me tip" i looked at them completely puzzled, and just walked out. why?????? would i????? give them a tip????
out i walked, and across the street to angelwitch. last time i was there, i totally fell in love with one of the dancers there. her name is oi, and she has the most adorable face ever. she has a dancer's body, albeit slightly bigger boned than most dancers, but she had a really refreshing, care-free smile about her. so i wanted to see this charmer again.
the place was somewhat less crowded than the last time i was there (early may), and the show began a little late (10:15), but it eventually filled out and things were busting like i remember. i basically sat there, enjoyed the beautiful show, watched oi when she was on stage and admired her elegaqnt lines and beautiful smile. but when oi was not on stage, i was thinking of mina. do i got back for her, or not? basically, during the half hour i sat there, i decided to hit some more gogos, and if nothing materializes, mina would be my backup.
so i took off. i had to be careful exiting angelwitch since mina was right across the street and she might see, but as i exited, i saw her looking the other direction, so i scampered like a scared fox. next stop: happy agogo. here too they have 55b draft. the last time i was in here, it weas kind of slow and boring, but this time it was absolutely busting man. they have changed thing sup, totally livened up the atmosphere. i walk in and am directed to a seat at teh bar. i sit down, and i find myself face-to-butt with some absoutely jiggling bum cheeks. the girls on stage are at a height such that as you sit on the bar stool, your face is exactly at butt height, and the fast dance music means they are jiggling those things at 100 miles per hour. something else.
while the atmosphere and set up here is excellent, the girls are not to my taste - too skinny. i was sitting next to a young english dude (with a tatoo on his neck of newcastle united) who had two girls on his arms and a stack of drink tickets the size of the bible. i mean, he was buying drinks like dom deluise popped m&ms (you younger members, look up who dom deluise was). anyway, he had one plain looking girl on his left arm (between me and him), and on the other side was the most gorgeous girl in the joint. she had a models face - eyes that could kill any man, beautiful full lips, and hair that was something else. she had partial corn-rows which erupted into swirling twirls down the side of her face. it was great, just a pleasure to look at. but she was the jordie's girl, so i only peeked across at her once in a while. but what really got me going was when it was her turn to dance. she went into the back, and came out wearing a see through nightie, and when on stage i got to see the full extent of her female magnificence. she had the perfect set of legs, tight, shapely, well muscled, lengthy and sleek. these beauties sprout from a full, round, perfectly proportioned bubble butt, supporting the tiniest of waists. her breasts were natural, and not overly large. i would say this is as close to a perfect body as you get, and couple that with the gorgeous face, dude, this is a woman for the ages. but as i say, the newcastle united supporter had her in his pocket, and who could begrudge him that? after all, his team sucks the almighty suck out of the word suck.
so, not seeing anything else that caught my fancy, i drank up and walked off. next stop: roxy agogo. this is a great place, right next to insomnia disco. it has a cool atmosphere, and they do one of those dirty sex shows (you know, bananas, the neoprene ass-whips, similated lesbian fucking, etc.). the girls are very cute here, and the place just has an overall good vibe (at least from my perspective). i've been told the manager, a british guy, is an asshole to the girls, but he runs a great joint, so i give him props no matter what.
i switched from beer to water at this point, just to save my stamina. a couple of girls made moves at me, but i fended them off as none of them really seemed to show the enthusiasm of mina.
by now it was midnight, and i was thinking about whether i wanted to run the line of gogos, and then hit the discos at 2am and take my chances with the freelancers, or whether i wanted to take a shot with mina. i slowly walked down the street in the direction of the gogo where mina was, thinking through the decision. i was tired a little, and very eager to blow my load. i also thought about the chemistry i had with mina - as i said before, you don't get that everyday, and especially true with girls as attractive as her. so i decided to make my move with mina.
i walked back, and as i approached, i noticed she was not at the entrance anymore. dude, did some horny tourist steal her away from me?? anyway, i get to the entrance, and the girl at the entrance shouts to me "welcooooooome" and i say, "i'm looking for mina" and she says "yes, yes, come in", meaning whatever, just get your ass inside so mama san gives me credit for attracting customers.
i get in, and mina is sitting there on the left, and she jumps up and screams. she flings herself at me, arms around my neck, legs around my waist, and dfk. yeah baby, that's what i'm talking about! almost as quickly, the vultures descend - i feel a series of hands touching me, grabbing me, poking me, and i hear "mister, buy me drink", "hey mister, give me tip". it was absoultely disgusting - was reminded of a bill murray movie called the razor's edge, based on the somerset vaugn book about a man who goes to india seeking enlightenment, and at one point, he is walking through a slum, and thousands of old, indigent women surround him, poking him, asking him for money. this was the same thing, except the old, haggared women were naked.
the waitress grabs me too and says "what you want to drink?" and two women say "drink? buy me drink?" so i say to mina "let's go...quickly". she says, "ok, bar fine 600 baht" i give her the money and off she goes. as i sit there, one of the vultures who i bought a drink for before says to me:
"give me 20 baht tip."
"why?"
"for tip, give me 20 baht."
"why????? there is no reason to give you a tip."
"no, give me tip."
"i'll give mina a tip, not you."
"oh, you give mina tip for me? ok."
"no, no, no...oh forget it."
thankfully, mina got back at that point and off we went. dude, that place sucks big time, and were it not for mina, i would just not go back there.
you guys know, when you leave a gogo bar having just bfed a girl, sometimes she completely changes attitude, right? a warm bubbly girl in the club turns into an ice cube as soon as you get out of that smoke filled room. i've had this happen a couple of times, and i was hoping it would not happen here. to my relief and delight, mina grabs my hand, and starts babbling away about this and that. she was totally cool, happy, smiling, cracking jokes, teasing me, taking my teases with a mix of fake indignation and total wide-mouth laughter. her bare naked enthusiasm for life was just so infectious and delightful, i thought to myself, "damn kumbu, you must have been mother-fucking-theresa in your last life coz this shit ain't right!"
we walk back to the nova platinum (something like a 10-15 minute walk) with not a single break in conversation - no awkward lulls in conversation, nothing weird going on at all. it was as if she and i just were meant to have this night together, and we both knew it.
we get into the hotel, a quick offering to the id gods at the front desk, and up we go. in the elevator, the inside of the door has a burnished bronze finish, so it is reflective and you can see yourself very well. when we got into the elevator and the door closed i caught a glimpse of her legs in the reflection, and took this opportunity to lay the groundwork for the next few hours. i grabbed her, pulled her to me as if to grope/kiss her. but instead i gently turned her around, put my arms around her and pointed out her reflection and said "look at that beautiful, beautiful lady there. isn't she amazing?" i felt her knees weaken, and thought "you sly dog kumbu." so she smiled and said "look at that lovely man." lovely? isn't that a little...chickish? ok, i'll go with it. so i said "oh look, that beautiful lady is going to kiss that lovely man..." and i waited. i'm particularly proud of that improvization - feel free to use it if you like.
the kiss came, but it was short coz we got to my floor.
entering the room, i was opening the door and she pushed me aside and ran inside, like a kid into a toy store. she made a bee line for the tv remote (a very, very common behavioral trait amongst thai gogo dancers, i noticed). i, meawhile, being the clean freak that i am, washed my hands, and came out to see what the deal was.
offered her a drink from the mini bar, and sat down with her. we talked a little, she teased me a little, she poked mini-kumbu a little, just to get the blood pumping, and then she instructed me to shower. she sent some mixed messages - at first it was 'we shower together', and then she said she does not want to shower, so i said i will go first. no biggie.
i come out, and she is completely tucked away in the blanket, pretending to be sleeping. so i sneak up to her and slip my hands under the cover, seeking a soft piece of flesh (any thing really) to grope. so she pretends to be startled, and laughs a ginormous, happy, content laugh. hmm, ok, getting a little weird here.
so we talked for about 20 minutes, which was cool. as we talked, we played around a little. we talked about her being poong pui, which apparently means pot bellied. i asked if i could see, and so she took off her shirt (nice). i looked, and indeed she had some fat around her belly - more like baby fat - a thin layer of soft flesh. shit man, if that is pot bellied i wish all women were poong pui - it was hot as hell. so i grabbed her midsection and sunk my face deep into her belly, giving it a loud, enthusiastic kiss. she laughed. so i took the opportunity to ask where else she was fat, and she said her legs. so naturally, i had to inspect her legs. mmmmm, nice, sexy, sensuous legs. but she had scars all over her knees. i asked how, and she said she ran away from police on her scooter coz she does not have a license. and then she crashed the bike somewhere. crazy.
next on the poong pui tour was her boobies. she thought there was not enough of it, and so i demanded the opportunity to evaluate this slanderous claim. and off came the bra. her breasts were full, very, very firm, and immensely satisfying. she had dark, large nipples, but the crcle around the nipple was relatively small, giving the nipples a very pert look. mmmm, nice. i asked about her bum, and she is eager to remove her jean shorts. she pulls them off, and i have me a looksie. wow, i was not disappointed. it was fleshy, firm, and ridiculously round. it was not a bubble butt, because i don't think the roundness was in all the relevant directions. rather, the butt was round from a profile, but it did not extend sideways, to create that pear shaped look. but it was awesome - i love a fleshy butt.
note that at this point, she had still not showered. we were now maybe 45 minutes into the session, and she was still sweaty and grimy from the bar. it turns out she was just feeling lazy, and i had to coax her into it. so it took about 10 minutes, until finally she says that she will only shower if i come with her. what? that's what was holding you up? my lady, it would be a pleasure.
so we get into the shower, and she focuses on her head region, and i did everything else. i soaped that beauty up good and proper, soaping every little nook, cranny, crack, hole and crevice i could get my grubby little fingers into. it was awesome. i cleaned out her pussy for her, using soap and everything (she seemed surprisingly unconcerned about getting soap into her pussy), and then i ddi the same for her butt hole - i washed that thing like it was about to perform open heart surgery. and when that was all done, i washed her butt hole again, just for good measure, and for personal gratification.
once we were all done, we stood there, water spraying all over us, and our eyes locked. she looked me in the eyes, face without expression, and i did the same. this lasted perhaps 30 seconds (a really long time for expressionless eye-gaze). the hypnotic moment was broken when her body swayed towards me and my erect penis poked right into her belly. she laughed and gently slapped little kumbu. i feigned pain, and in a show of retaliation, i dropped to my knees and stuck my open mouth into her pussy, sticking my tongue around and into that freshly cleaned hole. it lasted no more than 5 seconds before she gasped and pulled me up, but it was such an experience, it was worth sharing it with you guys.
so we get out, we dry each other, and she scampers out and jumps into the bed. when i joined, we played the 'i'm sleepy' game, and i told her that i actually prefer it if she would go to sleep. she was surprised, and told her that what i planned to do to her did not really require her conscious participation. she did not understand, so i showed her. i put my hands all over her, caressing, stroking, squashing, compressing, etc. this is what i enjoy - the foreplay which involves the exploration of her body. she opened up to me very nicely, spreading her legs when needed, turning this way and that. she was somewhat hesitant about the asshole, not really giving it up. she asked me 'you like toot?' i said 'no, i no like toot, i love toot.' she says, 'me no do toot, me do gim.' for those of you who know thai, forgive my transliterations, this is the best i could do. as far as i could tell, toot=ass, gim=pussy. so she made it clear that anal is out of the question, so i went down on her instead. i suckled and stroked for around 20 minutes before she came. it was kind of amusing: during the 20 minutes, she lay relatively still, and occasionally squirm and let out a little whimper at the same time. that was my clue as to where to focus my tongue action. this went on for 20 minutes, with the squirm/whimpering occuring every 3 minutes or so. i was beginning to think that nothing was happening for her, but i was rewaded when there was a series of quick little whimpers, a short set of three or four hip gyrations, and then relaxation, followed by her hand running through my hair. so she had come.
she jumped up quickly, and went straight down on kumbu. it was fucking awesome - she just went straight into a deep throat, no messing around. she took it all, and for someone her size, i was damned impressed. not bragging, but around 7 inches into the back of the throat, that's a great visual gift to me. so she bbbj for a while, then requested a condom (i do a lot of pre-cum, so i don't blame the girls for wanting a condom. i actually prefer a cbj to bbbj, actually, i would prefer everything to be covered, but that's one of my idiosyncrasies. so we did cbj for a while. i tried to get her into a 69, but she told me she was sensitive from having just cum. so this was a way for her to recooperate before the big action.
that action was indeed soon to follow, and it was, as promised, big action. after the cbj got old, she comes up and says to me: you want to fuck me? i love it when i am given obvious questions like that. so i playfully shoved her down onto the bed and rose up, like the pyramids over the desert, and plunged into her.
it was a 20 year old pussy, and it felt like it. i'm sure she's had her share of traffic, but it was a well designed, well maintained gim. we were in missionary at this point, but i really wanted to see what was happening down there. so i sat up and took a gander. she understood this, credit to the young 'un, and she lifted her hips to give me a better view. lovely. i was able to watch little kumbu playing in the playground. "play nice, ok? no bullying!" but kumbu was in a foul mood. he wanted to be the bullyer, and he was not going to take any crap. so i started to thrust a little more forcefully, watching her carefully to detect any sense of pain or objection. nothing, she looked at me and groaned louder. so i upped the tempo some more, and went at it with some more force. looking at her for signs of discomfort...nothing! ok, kumbu, you have the green light, so i dropped the bomb, put the pedal to the metal, pulled out all the stops and power-pumped like human existence depended on me impaling this beautiful little thing. i looked at her, fully expecting her to be wincing...nothing! wow, this girl is either really tolerant, or of a species i have never encountered before. so i asked her: "am i hurting you?" and she says (i don't remember the exact phrasing, but it was something like) "shut up and fuck me!"
ay. i'm sad to say that she defeated me. i did the power pump - treatment reserved only for the stoutest of performers - and she just took it all, and then some. so after 5-6 minutes of this in a couple of variations of the missionary position, she gasps to me:
"i owe you".
"wha??? you owe me for what?"
"no, i...owe...you"
"oh, you on me, ok."
so we switched to cg, and fellas, i tell you, i have never been ridden like this...ever. i felt like i was being fucked, not the one fucking. she got ontop of me and she showed me what power pumping was. she was like a woman possessed - absolutely crazy. truth be told, it was a tad painful, but hell, i wasn't going to stop it. i pondered pulling her out of her crazy mega-fucking, so as to prolong the sex, but decided the time was right for a good, long, hard ejaculation. and so it was that kumbu experienced the orgasm of the month - a long, powerful, spasmadic cum that was fully satisfying and very memorable. when i was done, she kept going for 3 seconds too long (pain), and i had to physically stop her. she was totally out of breath, and i said to her: this is good exercise for you - you do this everyday with me, you will not be poong pui any more. she laughed.
she sat on me for another 5 minutes, sweat dripping down her forehead onto her nose, cracking jokes, teasing me, taking my teases with good humor. she then went to wash up, and i followed when she was done. when i got out of the shower, the tv was on and she was watching music videos. i was exhausted (it was 3am by this point), but she wanted to watch tv and talk. eventually she switched over to a made-for-tv reanactment of helen of troy, maybe something made for the history channel, which bored the crap out of me. but it was apparent to me that she did not know the story, and so she was thoroughly amazed at my awesome ability to predict what would happen next. she just didn't get tired of my predictions working out, and she thought i should work as a tv producer. i hope she never finds out how ubiquitous that story is.
we finally fell asleep. she awoke to her alarm (set at the pre-arranged time of 6am), and off she went. i paid her a total of 2500 baht (so that's lt + tip), which in my mind, was totally earned and worth every single baht.
next day, and here i am sitting at the wave restaurant, and this beautiful diva of a lady comes and sits in front of me. she is well appointed, wearing diva sunglasses, very well proportioned. i'm typing up my isg report, but she is sitting right in front of me, distracting me. here i am looking and wondering how to break the barrier and make my approach. she is obviously fishing, since she is alone, seems to be looking for a pick up. and then i am totally taken to school by this old timer. an older italian guy just walks up to her and says "excuse me, are you alone?" and she says "yes" and he says "may i join you?" and she looks at him, calculating her potential income. after a short pause, she agrees, and the italian cruiser then says "good-uh, because-uh i no like-uh to eat-uh alone-uh". and voila, or should i say, presto, the deal is set. the old guy has his a-game on, man he is smooth. he talks like a charmer, carries the conversation, knows just what to say, and is just a fucking charming little fucker. man i hate him. i see now how i am totally in a different league - he is part of the major leagues, i'm like a triple a minor leaguer.
he charms her, asks her about her food, orders some milky drink, and offers her some. she shows some hesitation, and he drops the line of the year - "please try some - i share *everything*". wow, my man...my itali-an man!
so a few minutes later, italiano over there says he wants to go shopping, does she want to join him. i have never seen a diva move more quickly. before i knew it, they were gone, probably to spend thousands of the italians euros, followed by, in all likelihood, a tepid bout of weak sex.
realizing this, kumbu feels strangely empty. but i thought back to the night with mina, and the night that is to follow, and i felt a sense of hope again. i turned and admired the view; took in a deep breath of air and sighed at my contentment.
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Some notes in the margins.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]The second tip is don't try to flag a bus down[/QUOTE]
The funny thing is, if a bus is not full when it's leaving, it may pause on the way out, with a bus steward calling the destination and bundling more people on board. Do they stick the money for those passengers in their pocket? You don't get a ticket when you jump on one of these. Sometimes an inspector boards the bus at some point, watch out ..
[QUOTE=Kumbu]The fare is 20Baht from the bus terminal, but 10Baht if you catch it anywhere in town (i.e., you pay a premium for getting to and from the bus station).[/QUOTE]
Actually I find that they're fine with 10 baht on the way back, if you catch one down at the traffic circle where 2nd road ends. They can take a while to fill up there though.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]they make a direct route down beach rd,[/QUOTE]
.. NOT .. some go down 3rd road and may go down toward 2nd Rd past Hollywood and emerge somewhere near Soi 6, some may continue all the way to Pattaya South Rd before going down to 2nd Rd, and some go straight on to Jomtien .. I've experienced all of those.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]The trick though is to know where to get dropped off, so if you are unsure, tell the driver, and he will stop at the right place and tell you to get off. They are very good about this[/QUOTE]
If your hotel is in any way off whatever they deem their route to be, they'll ask you 100 or 150 or something to go by there, though. Or if you have more luggage than they like to see. Some are great, but some have real bad days.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]I heard the muslim call to prayers from just behind a metal fence. It baffles me to see super religious people in this supposedly immoral location.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't baffle you to see a Buddha shrine in or outside each and every bar?
Ohhhh, Mina .. I've had snatches of that but I don't think one girl who had all of that all night :-)
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[QUOTE=D Cups]Did you see any D Cups (giant boobs) in your explorations yet? [/QUOTE]
Not D-cups per se, but there are some big titted girls to be had. The biggest boobs I have seen in the last couple of weeks was a girl at Spanky in the NEP in Bangkok. She had some pretty large tatas, definitely C-cup, perhaps not quite D. And she wasn't terribly fat either (although not skinny), so it looked pretty good.
In Pattaya, there are one or two large breasted girls at Angelwitch, and I spied a couple at Roxy. I would avoid Happy agogo - the current girls there are not big up top (at least as far as I saw), as well as Naughty, Sea and Supergirl.
Oh, I did see a superb set of tits on a girl at Beachclub - absolutely delightful - full, round, natural, they looked ridiculously juicy. But she was not in the mood for anything - she indicated to me she was feeling queezy, and so she was avoiding any male contact if possible. But hey, their beer is cheap, so you might as well drop in and take a look. Sorry, I didn't get her number, but the tits will pop out at you, so no worries.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]
It doesn't baffle you to see a Buddha shrine in or outside each and every bar?
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Buddhism is somewhat different from the three big monotheistic religions in that it is not as overtly prescriptive about its sexual restrictions. I guess that's too much of a sweeping statement, but I think there is a difference.
But on the other hand, such contradictions are rife throughout everyone's life. Muslims drink, Catholics engage in divorce, Jews eat shrimp, and Buddhist monks have gay sex in the temple. But they can all call themselves pious at the end of the day.
My point simply was that the close proximity of the call to prayers with the gogo bars was just a little surprising. That's all.
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[QUOTE=The Wookie]Hi all,
I'm gonna be hitting Pattaya again next month and since this will be my second time around and I will be staying longer then the very first time I was there (1,5 day) I was hoping some of you might help me out. I'm looking for a serious Tai Chi course in Pattaya (gives me something to do during the day). I've already searched for them online and found only one. I want to attend one that is as authentic as possible and would appreciate any info on this.
Thanks,
Wookie[/QUOTE]Wookie,
When next month? I will be in Pattaya 3/31-4/10. I don't know of a course there. But I do practice myself when I'm there. I teach Chen and Yang styles in the US.
Shaolin
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]My point simply was that the close proximity of the call to prayers with the gogo bars was just a little surprising.[/QUOTE]
I agree completely :-) But the wai dancers often give towards the shrine as they mount the stage also has me shaking my head in wonderment.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]I agree completely :-) But the wai dancers often give towards the shrine as they mount the stage also has me shaking my head in wonderment.[/QUOTE]
Ah, I see what you're saying - on the one hand they are dancing around nude, doing the nasty for a living, and on the other hand they are showing what polite, spiritual and socially well-adjusted people they are by giving the wai.
I guess it's basically the same thing as my observation - we are complex creatures that can't be defined along one dimension.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]Ah, I see what you're saying. On the one hand they are dancing around nude, doing the nasty for a living, and on the other hand they are showing what polite, spiritual and socially well-adjusted people they are by giving the wai.
I guess it's basically the same thing as my observation. We are complex creatures that can't be defined along one dimension.[/QUOTE]Nope, they are not 'showing' anything with their wai, they are just superstitious and believe Buddha will then help them making money. Same like this waving bills they made over the remaining goods on display on the market. Or the girls BFed in a bar passing on their luck to remaining girls by some hand gesture.
Agree with your conclusion (how complex we are) though.
You wouldn't believe what mega superstitious bullshit the African bargirls in Europe are into.
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you guys appear to be confusing the "shrine to the house spirits". Thais are superstitious and are afraid of the "spirits" The house spirits don't seem to bother with farang, though. :)
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Colleges/education centers near monger locations
Does anyone know of any university’s/education centers that are close enough to monger locations yet isolated enough to where the students or school officials would not notice. I have been given the opportunity to set up a summer study abroad program in economics. My employer will pay for me to take two weeks for exploratory set up and then it would be a summer program every year after that. This seems like a great opportunity to combine both work and pleasure while my trip cost and stay would be paid for by my employer. Any information on education centers in Pattaya would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris
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It is very confusing isn't it?
Call it Double standard Hypocrisy? Can't really find a specific explanation or it might be everything!
On Soi 6, you will find many shrines on the roof, prior to the girls going to work they will pray to the shrine to protect them from disease and that they have a profitable day or have their wish come true that they finally find the one. You name it they wish for it!
They Wai when they are in the car driving down the road when they see a shrine along the road. They steal and do bad things and then they shrine to ask for forgiveness. Sounds alot like the other religion when they go to church on Sunday or do their confession and then go back in the real world and do the same thing they just ask for forgiveness.
In Thailand, it seems the most profitable business are the ones down on Naklua selling the shrines and the products that goes along with the shrines. A Thai calendar even has a red mark each week showing when they should buy new flowers etc... for their shrines to pray. Each week you add up the flowers, fruits, soda, incent etc.... for a shrine your'e looking at around a 1,000 baht for a Thai per month? Some familes barely can eat but they take care of that shrine!
It might be funny and even stupid but if you want to get along.. you just go with the flow. Show a girl you can Wai at a shrine and you just might get a better GFE?
LBM
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[QUOTE=MickTheKick]Nope, they are not 'showing' anything with their wai, they are just superstitious and believe Buddha will then help them making money. Same like this waving bills they made over the remaining goods on display on the market. Or the girls BFed in a bar passing on their luck to remaining girls by some hand gesture.
Agree with your conclusion (how complex we are) though.
You wouldn't believe what mega superstitious bullshit the African bargirls in Europe are into.[/QUOTE]
Let's see, the predominant western superstitions include a virgin getting pregnant with the son of god, the red sea parting at the waving of a stick, god speaking from a burning bush, someone rising from the dead, and so on. The Thais are no more superstitious than we are. They merely have different superstitions.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]Ah, I see what you're saying - on the one hand they are dancing around nude, doing the nasty for a living, and on the other hand they are showing what polite, spiritual and socially well-adjusted people they are by giving the wai.
I guess it's basically the same thing as my observation - we are complex creatures that can't be defined along one dimension.[/QUOTE]We are probably all saying the same thing, but we bring our own Western prejudices in when we talk about 'doing the nasty' for a living. I know many girls aren't proud of what they do, but they are proud that they financially support their family and friends. And that pride certainly outweighs any shame of paid sex, which to some extent is viewed differently in the East and the West in any case.
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No guilt trip for these babies
[QUOTE=Rocksoff] But the wai dancers often give towards the shrine as they mount the stage also has me shaking my head in wonderment.[/QUOTE]
Why - it doesn't surprise me in the least. After all, they are adherents of the most tolerant religion of them all. I have yet to meet a repressed, guilt ridden Buddhist.
No prizes for guessing the most intolerant.
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night one in pattaya
trying to get the lay of the land I went shopping the first night. I had a list of places to shop, super girls, windmill, boesch, x zone, and anything else that looked interesting. Found the windmill on soi 15 and ventured in for happy hour. Small beer but small price. At the stage 2 girls were playing with a banana. One was doing her version of sculpturing with her mouth. When she was finished it looked a dick. Very talented. She then proceeds to place it in the other girls pussy. Very interesting from a close up point of view. Mashinh her tits were the boys surrounding the stage. One dancer looked like a 7 or 8 and had great tits. After she finished I asked about hher doing the banana, and she said only dancer. Put on the list for later.
Moved down to soi 16 and checked out boesch. It was early so only one or two customers and maybe 10 girls. Moved upstairs to Xzone. five minutes to open mamasan said. Had a good conversation and decided tostay and see the show. About 20 minutes in to the opening 3 dancers start on the second stage behind me. I needed a get a closer look so i went over. New show on the round stage in 5 imutes.
At the round stage the old banana comes out. Now what is different is after the girls use it they offer me a chance to use it and put it where the sun doesn't usually get to. Great fun and the banaana breaks. opps. She puls out the head. Now the dildo comes out. It is covered and I am again offered a chance to place it in her pussy. Of course I felt the show should go on, so I inserted it. For 10 minutes I rubbed her pussy and inserted in her. She was totally enjoying it. Great when you enjoy your work.
Moved on and found a place called something like hoppers. Some cute talent in the place. You might give it a look. Also baccara had some nice talent as well
Walking back to the hotel I located one on second road. Little spinner and part chinese. Off we go and a good time was had by all.
More tomorrow on adventures on soi6.
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[QUOTE=Shaolin02]Wookie,
When next month? I will be in Pattaya 3/31-4/10. I don't know of a course there. But I do practice myself when I'm there. I teach Chen and Yang styles in the US.
Shaolin[/QUOTE]I'll be in BKK first and make it to Pattaya on the 2nd of April. Maybe we could meet up.
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[QUOTE=Chris Long]Does anyone know of any university’s/education centers that are close enough to monger locations yet isolated enough to where the students or school officials would not notice. I have been given the opportunity to set up a summer study abroad program in economics. My employer will pay for me to take two weeks for exploratory set up and then it would be a summer program every year after that. This seems like a great opportunity to combine both work and pleasure while my trip cost and stay would be paid for by my employer. Any information on education centers in Pattaya would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris[/QUOTE]Chris- you may want to go to PI instead -- Silliman University in Dumaguete, Negro Island (near Cebu). It is the oldest American University in Asia. Dumaguete does not have the night life -- you have to go to Cebu for that --(but I'm sure you may find a lot of willing coeds). The advantage is they all speak and write English (better than the Thais). To me, it would be a professor's dream job (even a graduate student).
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Why - it doesn't surprise me in the least.[/QUOTE]
Didn't say it suprized me -- but I do think it's wonderful :-)
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getting to the point (spot).
Second day in Pattaya and i had to visit the famous soi6. Took the little 10 baht taxi up to soi 2. As I got out two ladies from russia also exited. I handed the driver the 10 baht and started to walk away. The girls gave him 20 baht for the 2. He wanted 20 baht each. I hollered back not to give it to him and tis old guy starts screeming for me to leave. I finally got the ladies to uinderstand what I was saying and they walked away with me.
Ok, now to walk back to soi 6. When I arrived I started down the soi toward the water. On my left was my friend you bar with around 10 girls sitting outside. Continuing on I spotted other familar names. At first I couldn't find red spot, but a lady pointed for me to look up. There was the red spot. I walked back to observe the merchandise. from across the street I thought one looked cute and decided to go over for a closer look. Just so happens we made eye contact and she follows me into the bar. After buying a drink an offer was made. 700 short time and 300 for the room. Sounds like a deal to me. Up we go . This girl is pretty new according to her. 6 weeks and counting. Off come the clothes and a body with some nice tits and curves in the right spots. Yes things are looking up.
Off to the shower and back to the room. Daty was offered and she accepted. She seemed to enjoy it and moved her pussy very well. We tried a couple of different positions and enjoyed the contact with each other. After finishing and a shower we got dressed. Being good hearted man with a new chick who was willing to learn I stuffed 200 baht in her bra. Yes, I know don't spoil the market. She seemed utterly surprised and very thankful. I felt it was just appropiate for her . Her name is book and maybe someone who reads this can help educate her more.
In the end I found spot I was looking for
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Let's see, the predominant western superstitions include a virgin getting pregnant with the son of god, the red sea parting at the waving of a stick, god speaking from a burning bush, someone rising from the dead, and so on. The Thais are no more superstitious than we are. They merely have different superstitions.[/QUOTE]
Speak for yourself... I'd bet a lot of us here in this forum at least (most of us maybe?) don't buy into those silly biblical superstitions you mentioned. That said, I did see a billboard once featuring a plate of spaghetti that looked eerily like the face of Jesus. I've also read that virgin birth is theoretically possible, though so unlikely that it may never have occurred in human history.
Seriously, I'd guess that if you tallied up the superstitions and degree of belief in them per capita, you'd probably end up with Thais being considerably more superstitious than 'us'. Think about all the westerners who claim to be agnostic/atheist. Vastly higher % than in Thailand.
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Question for the forum members
Dear Friends,
I would like to present one question for you and I hope as many of you would be willing to answer honestly. This is mainly for the "non-asian" guys among us (European, American, Australian).
Let's assume for a minute that there was a luxury cruise boat, with go-go bars similar to the Angeles bars, with Philippino/Thai/Chinese girls giving the same kind of service as in Angeles/Pattaya/Dongguan. It could travel between European cities, or US cities, so no flight would be needed. This boat would pick-up guests and go on short trips (maybe 3-5 days), with an option to book trips back-to-back (if you like longer vacations).
My questions:
1. Would you guys be interested in using such service instead of actually going to those preferred mongering sites (PI/Thailand/China)?
2. Today, when you have your vacation in those sites, how much do you spend on flights, accommodations, and food, not calculating the spending on the ladies (LD, BF, Tips, Gifts, etc.)?
Your opinion and information would be highly appreciated.
UN LE70
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
Next day, and here I am sitting at the Wave restaurant, and this beautiful diva of a lady comes and sits in front of me. She is well appointed, wearing diva sunglasses, very well proportioned. I'm typing up my ISG report, but she is sitting right in front of me, distracting me. Here I am looking and wondering how to break the barrier and make my approach. She is obviously fishing, since she is alone, seems to be looking for a pick up. And then I am totally taken to school by this old timer. An older Italian guy just walks up to her and says "Excuse me, are you alone?" and she says "yes" and he says "May I join you?" And she looks at him, calculating her potential income. After a short pause, she agrees, and the Italian cruiser then says "Good-uh, because-uh I no like-uh to eat-uh alone-uh". And voila, or should I say, presto, the deal is set. The old guy has his A-game on, man he is smooth. He talks like a charmer, carries the conversation, knows just what to say, and is just a fucking charming little fucker. Man I hate him. I see now how I am totally in a different league - he is part of the major leagues, I'm like a triple A minor leaguer. .[/QUOTE]
Great report, I was amused through the entire thing!
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[QUOTE=Un Le70]Dear Friends,
I would like to present one question for you and I hope as many of you would be willing to answer honestly. This is mainly for the "non-asian" guys among us (European, American, Australian).
Let's assume for a minute that there was a luxury cruise boat, with go-go bars similar to the Angeles bars, with Philippino/Thai/Chinese girls giving the same kind of service as in Angeles/Pattaya/Dongguan. It could travel between European cities, or US cities, so no flight would be needed. This boat would pick-up guests and go on short trips (maybe 3-5 days), with an option to book trips back-to-back (if you like longer vacations).
My questions:
1. Would you guys be interested in using such service instead of actually going to those preferred mongering sites (PI/Thailand/China)?
2. Today, when you have your vacation in those sites, how much do you spend on flights, accommodations, and food, not calculating the spending on the ladies (LD, BF, Tips, Gifts, etc.)?
Your opinion and information would be highly appreciated.
UN LE70[/QUOTE]
Oh, instead of a Love Boat this is going to be a Fuck Boat! As long as it doesn't cost me a arm and a leg sign me up! Oh take me off now I see the sign above " Non Asians only "
LBM
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[QUOTE=Mackin]
Just so happens we made eye contact and she follows me into the bar. After buying a drink an offer was made. 700 short time and 300 for the room. Sounds like a deal to me. Up we go . This girl is pretty new according to her. 6 weeks and counting. Off come the clothes and a body with some nice tits and curves in the right spots. Yes things are looking up. [/QUOTE]
I've been reading the Patts thread quite a bit, but don't see any indication of the level of Thai language skills that are needed to get there from BKK and to monger there.
How much Thai does the typical Pattayan monger need to speak in order to have a good experiences like this at reasonable prices?
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Thanks Kumbu for a very enjoyable post. While reading it, I thought I was there with you. And that Mina girl was awesome!
Keep'em coming those great reports!
Cheers.
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Language skills needed
Just say Pattaya and pay the taxi 1200 baht from BKK. Sawadee Ka will be all that is needed. They know what they are there for and will know enough english so you will understand. Otherwise just point. Enjoy yourself
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[QUOTE=Mackin]Just say Pattaya and pay the taxi 1200 baht from BKK. Sawadee Ka will be all that is needed. They know what they are there for and will know enough english so you will understand. Otherwise just point. Enjoy yourself[/QUOTE]
Are you gay?
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]How much Thai does the typical Pattayan monger need to speak in order to have a good experiences like this at reasonable prices?[/QUOTE]
Absolutely none. Pattaya is more or less international territory when it comes to spending your dollars, euros, etc.
Smile, be nice and clean, and good experiences will be yours.
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Primo
Far from gay. If you can't figure out what I said and meant ,why say anything. End of conversation
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Primo - your own words
[QUOTE=Primo Bolan]Let me remind you of one important ISG rule:
" Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member."
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Good advice from you - to yourself perhaps.
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[QUOTE=Mackin] Sawadee Ka will be all that is needed. [/QUOTE]
It would if you had a pussy instead of a dick! Otherwise khap is the masculine form.
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Two Weekends Ago
this is a report from two sundays ago - back when my gunners were still in the title race. i'm depressed just thinking about what has happened since, some of which is chronicled in this report here.
sunday morning was spent doing chores - email to work people that i had postponed all week, laundry, writing isg reports, and the like. by lunch time i was itching for some action.
i had tried to make reservations at several places in pattaya, but no luck. nova platinum told me they were all booked up, and a couple of other hotels never responded to my emails. so i decided to wing it. i've done this before - just arrive in pattaya and walk around looking for the best hotel.
i took the bts to ekkamai, bought two bus tickets and waited for the bus at platform 1. as i sat watching the people milling around, i was reminded of just what an interesting place thailand is. there were maybe half a dozen single males like myself skulking around half shamefully and half shamelessly. everyone knew what these people are up to - they are here to take advantage of thailand's youngest and prettiest. intermingled with them are families going down to pattaya for a genuine family vacation, as well as working people going down to service the tourists. and also strewn in there are the occasional working girl. but no one gives anyone any skunk-eye or nasty words - it's all very civil and polite.
so the bus left at 14:40, and i was off the bus on the other end at 16:45. got on a baht bus, which always takes so goddam long. but 20b for a ride into town ain't bad at all. i got off at the kfc and walked the 2 minutes to siam discovery, who were completely booked up. wow. so i walked across to fraser and took a deluxe room, which, as it turns out, is everything but deluxe. the initial quote was for 3200b, and i told them how ridiculous that was. it dropped to 3000, then to 2800, but that was as low as they would go. they threw in free internet (which really should be free anyway) and breakfast (which there was no way i would be awake for anyway). given my eagerness to get on with the festivities, i agreed. next time, however, i think i will not stay at fraser.
the room is small, very dark (not enough lights), shoddily constructed, and they cheap-out at every corner. e.g., they only give you one small bar of soap, so you need to constantly move it from the shower to the sink and back. also, the closet and bathroom doors (sliding doors) don't have any handles to grasp them. the bathroom door has a little hole that has been scraped out with a wood chisel which you can stick your finger into to get a grasp of it. that's just cheap, no two ways about it.
shit, shower, shave and off for dinner. afterwards, i have myself a grande americano at starbucks in preparation for the long night ahead.
i get down to walking street at around 8:45, and man city are already 1 goal up. it it not terribly crowded, but the night is early. the first place i go to is happy-a-gogo. i see two good looking girls, but they both seem to have attitude. one in particular, who had the best ass i have seen in a while, was just sour and cold. i realized that she was with some guy who was buying her drinks, so she was not trying to attract attention from anyone else, lest it cause a scene. so that was my cue, and i paid my 60b for the draught beer, and off i went.
next: roxy. there were maybe 25 girls here, two of which were quite interesting. i took note of their numbers, drank my singha, and left. 65b for the beer, i think.
it was 9:50 by now, almost time for the angelwitch show. so i went in, sat down and watched the pre-show girls dancing. they are the regular gogo girls, dancing for your pleasure, trying to get you to bf them. that lasted 15 minutes, and then on to the truly impressive show. half way through, i was accosted by a pretty little thing called pui, who was wondering why i had not looked at her during the pre-show dancing. i told her there were too many girls to look at just one, although she certainly does deserve lots of attention. anyway, to cut a long story short, she wanted me to bf her, and she wanted me to commit to it now. she asked me to bf her, and then i could go anywhere i wanted and come back and get her when i am ready. i politely refused, and she was a little peeved by that. paid for my beer, 150b i believe.
as i walked out, the arsenal-united game had just begun, and i spotted a gunner fan with his arshavin shirt on standing in candybar nervously watching the match. i joined him for a moment, pumping him up a little. he seemed very nervous, and i (foolishly) told him that we were going to stomp united into the pulpy color that fergie gets when he's angry. he giggled at this, but still seemed nervous. the game was 8 minutes old, and the score was 0-0.
next up, sea gogo. this place kind of sucks - the girls are not particularly hot, and the ambiance is ok. paid my 95b drink and left. as i walked, i saw a television. scoreline was now 0-1 to united. mmmmm, looks like the gunners are going to have to pull off a comeback win. no problem, they've done it before, they can do it again. and with the emirates crowd behind them...nothing is impossible.
next was naughty gogo. at this point, i needed to lay off the beer if i was to last through the night, so i switched to water. this always comes with the obligatory 'why you dink watttuh?' which really annoys me. what of it if i drink water? you're still charging me 95b for a 12b bottle of water, just be happy with the pound of flesh you are taking and be done with it. there were several girls here to my taste. also, i had been with a girl here six months ago several times, and while the girl had moved on, the staff remembered me. that was weird. but it made for some light-hearted banter, which was nice. paid my 100b and left, but thought i might return if nothing better turns up.
as i made my way to airport, i passed candyshop and saw the scoreline - 0-2. what??? and it wasn't 30 minutes into the game?!?! shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
into airport i went feeling a little despondent about my gunners. this place is always packed to the gilt, and i am not exactly sure why. the seating situation makes it very hard to get with a girl, and there are so many people, it just feels like a circus. the girls are not particularly hot (they're good, but not unusually so), so i just don't get it. i sat there uncomfortably between a big chinese guy and an old german dude. to be honest, they too seemed bored.
so i paid 100b for my nam pau and off i stumbled. next? where does the kumbu train stop next? well, before i could go anywhere, i needed to check on the great gunner come-back, so dropped into candyshop and found that same arsenal fan there, looking like a truck of elephants had parked on his nuts. i looked at the screen, and oh shit, it was 0-3. what...a...total...buzzkill. i consoled my inconsolable gunner, and moved on. i really needed to get laid.
decided to cross the street to shark a gogo. not worth talking about. ended up buying a girl a drink, but it was a total sympathy buy, and i am ashamed of myself for doing it, so let's just move on. i blame it on the depression from the demolition united put us through. after that, i realized the hour was now getting pretty late. it was 1am, and the crowds were thinning a little. the clubs would close pretty soon, and then all the girls would spill out into the clubs. i was getting pretty tired, and i didn't really want to extend the night into the hours of trolling for a dancing girl. so i needed to pick a girl and move on to the next stage.
went back to happy-a-gogo, but those two cuties i spied earlier in the evening were gone. nothing worth bfing left, so went back to roxy to try to find one of those two pretty things i saw earlier. but alas, they were both gone when i got there. had a great long chat with the mama san (who is quite young and attractive herself), but that was about it. ok, getting a little desperate now, which is not a good state to be in when gogo shopping. i went back to angelwitch looking for pui, but she was long gone. what was left was actually quite enticing, but there was something about the attitude i was getting which put me off. so i paid the rip-off 150b for a water and walked out.
finally, i ended up back in naughty gogo. the staff were again happy to see me, and they chatted and teased me for 15 minutes or so. i spied two good looking girls, one of whom was giving me the 'i'm beautiful, but i still want you' look. she was actually quite pretty - large, sultry eyes, pert little waist, slim but shapely legs,. long straight hair. the only issue i had was that her nipples were very intense. not sure how to describe them - they were not big, they were actually quite petite. but they were very, very...intense. sorry, that's the only word i can find. and against her light, pale skin, i didn't like that, for whatever reason. and what's more, her dancing was slow, bored, lethargic, and she looked really ready to call it quits. i feared that once i got her back to the room she would pull a 'oh me so sleepy' thing, and i was not in the mood to try to convince her to do what i was paying good money for her to do. but nonetheless, overall, she was easily an 8 or 9 in my book, so she was on stand-by. the other girl was quite the opposite to this girl. she was dancing frivolously, skipping from this side of the stage to that, twirling around, hair flying around, head cocking this side and that. and at every turn, she would turn to me and make eye contact. physically she was very different from the sultry one. this one was darker skinned, actually quite dark. she had small angled eyes, making for quite an exotic look. her teeth were prominent, and so she had a large, wide smile - very appealing. her hair was done in a light brown, which was different, and slightly permed. she was wearing a bikini, and so i couldn't tell about her nipples, but her breasts seemed sufficient. more importantly, her ass was very well built. not particularly bulgy or anything, but round, curvy, substantial, enough to get a full handful of meat and give it a good, full, satisfying squeeze. furthermore, her legs were also similarly well shaped. her ankles were a little thick for my taste, but i quibble. overall, her proportions were excellent - a great leg-to-upper body ratio.
the staff were busy plying me for drinks, and so i had to fend myself from this unwanted attention, and this served to delay my decision - which one do i pick. they were both giving me the eye, but in different ways - ms. sultry was looking very expectantly, almost insistently, impatiently even. and ms. dancy was giving me the occasional flirty glances, cute smiles, playful little head-cocks. i thought i knew who i was going for, but before i could make my decision, a really interesting thing happened.
a white guy walks in, well dressed, perhaps in his early 50s, and so still quite spry. he walks past me and sits to my right. the mama san jumps up and attends to him immediately - after all, he ticks all the right boxes: male, white, middle-aged, well-dressed, and arriving after 2am. she points to one girl and yanks her off stage (literally) and throws her at the guy (literally). the girl stumbled, paused to fix her hair, and then smiled at the gent. the gent looked her over, expressionless. he then turned his gaze stageward. the mama san saw this, screamed at the girl next to him to fuck off, and she pointed to the next girl, who happened to be ms. sultry. gentleman looks her over, again expressionless, and minimally nods his head. mama san screams at ms. sultry and yanks her off stage. ms. sultry, too good for this, pulls her hand back, and then daintily steps onto a stool, then down onto the floor. as she lands, she looks my way as if to say 'last chance...' i give her a blank look - my decision had already been made, but this gave me a very easy way to proceed. so she sits next to gentleman.
and this is where it gets interesting. she sits down, and gentleman immediately climbs ontop of her. i mean, he turned to her, moved right ontop of her, and his tongue came out like a moray eel flitting out of its hole, flicking this way and that. she instantly recoiled, just a little, and then her training kicked in and she froze, letting his tongue do whatever was required. there was not a single word exchanged between these two, and gentleman was already using his tongue on her.
truth be told, i was conflicted by the whole thing. one part of me was kind of grossed out by this display, and i realized i had an expression of utter disgust on my face. i looked around, and the staff and other girls were passively watching, as if nothing unusual was happening. but the poor girl was clearly uncomfortable, squirming slightly, leaning back as far as she could. but the large arms of gentleman were wrapped around her, leaving her in the death embrace for sure. it truly was an animal planet moment where the little mollusk is engulfed by the sea slug, powerless and pathetic.
but another part of me was in awe. this dude clearly knew exactly what he was doing. he was testing her out to see if she would recoil, and how much. this, presumably, was a gauge of how pliable she would be once back in the hotel room. a very interesting tactic - place her under the most serious of strain at a late hour and see if she rejects him or not. the girl was borderline, in my opinion, in that she was recoiling, but not rejecting.
i was fascinated...what will happen next? i wish i had some popcorn and a camera. so gentleman now lifts his head and whispers a few words (inaudible), to which ms. sultry nods and agrees, and he says a few more words, and she nods again, and then his head went straight between her breasts and the nuzzling began. oh. my. god.
the staff grew weary of this display, since it was slowing my decision down. so they started to make noise around me to try to bring my attention back to my own dick. but my decision had been made, of course - it was ms. dancy. i look for her, and to my delight, she is dancing not more than 4 feet from me. and she is fanning herself, indicating that she is very hot. how convenient, because i am seated right beneath a fan, so i point to the fan, and for her to join me. she jumps up onto the seat with a whimsical squeal. we got the pleasantries out of the way, and then i noticed her single most attractive feature: her hands. i saw her hands and i did a head-snap 'whatthe??' i gently took one hand in my own, and held it up to the light for a better view. these were...the...most...spectacular hands i have ever seen. i kid you not my friends, she had hands that just made my dick go zzzzzing! i have never had that experience before - legs, yes, bums, sure, breasts, why not? but hands? yawza, these hands are indescribable, but let me try. for those of you not interested, just skip the next paragraph.
the top side of her hands were dark skinned, like the color of fresh espresso (fresh, mind you, not even 60 seconds old). they glistened in the light, the glisten of youth i am sure. her palms were a lighter, tan color, perhaps the color of the crema on the espresso. but the color of her nails were a translucent whitish color. this created a stark contrast between the nails and the dark skin, which for whatever reason created the most lustful vision. and her nails were absolutely immaculately cared for. they were long, lustrous, natural, strong and well shaped. but the true grace of this sculpture were the fingers themselves. long, sexy, elegant fingers like you might imagine an enchantress in a forest might have. they were longer than her palms, and even her pinky was not the short stubby thing it is with most girls, but it was longer than my own index finger. damn. i looked at those hands and just began to cream myself.
so finally, mama san and i agreed to bf (500b, not bad). she said 1500st or 2000lt, and i told her i would negotiate that with the girl directly, to which mama san was most appreciative. i paid up, (bf plus my drink plus dancy's drink came to something like 725b - can't quite remember, i was a little buzzed from all the beer) and off she goes for the shower and change. meanwhile, i turn back to the really interesting story unfolding to my right with gentleman and ms. sultry. i look over, and his hands are on her ass, head still buried in her cleavage. wow, it must have been 10 minutes, and that's all he was doing. and the whole staff were ok with this. he really must bf her now, right? i mean, he couldn't now get up and say 'no thanks' and walk out...could he? i dunno, this gentleman is like no other mortal man i have known, so anything is possible.
one of the other girls does something that pisses off one of the the mama sans, who then screams 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh!' in the loudest, most god-aweful shriek you can imagine. and instantly gentleman pops his head out of the cleavage and exactly mimics the mama san: 'eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhh!' i laugh hard and loud at this, and he looks over at me, and joins me in laughter. that was our moment together. if i had a glass of wine right now, i would toast you gentleman: here's to you sir, you and your gigantic gonads.
out pops my girl: dressed like a young teenager - frilly skirt, modern top with some large lettering on it, she looked pretty cool. she offers her hand and i gratefully take it, savoring the feeling of those long lustrous fingers wrapped around mine. we walk out into the still crowded walking street at 2:30am.
i was satisfied, as i had found a delightful piece of isaan chocolate to drown my gunner sorrows in.
we walk back to the hotel, talking as best we could (her english is no good, but we made do). she is such a sweet thing, i can't tell you. we get into the room and do some small talk for about 5 minutes. then she showers, and i do the same. afterwards, we talked for about 20 minutes, me trying to warm her up, she trying to relax. slowly the towel gets loosened from around her breasts, my hands slowly enter inside, caressing this, squeezing that. she reciprocates a little, but seems very shy. she is young - 23, from isaan (where else?), no boyfriend or children (good), and has been in pattaya an indeterminate amount of time (i couldn't pin this down with her bad english). but she clearly wasn't the pushy forthright kind - she did not take the initiative. this is probably a pain in the ass for most of you guys, so please be warned - she requires work. and you may not find the end product worth the work. on another night i might agree, but tonight i enjoyed it.
but i eventually managed to strip her naked and behold her beautiful, chocolaty body. she was quite a sight to behold. i explored every crevasse of hers, every mound, every dimple, every flaw and every landmark.
her breasts, it turns out, are a little larger than i expected - they're not huge at all, but at least a handful, which is good. and they were firm indeed. so i played a while with them, sucked a little, rubbed a lot, squeezed some. it was low-level pleasure, but great to begin with.
i found my way down to daty, which was clean and fresh. we did this for another 30 minutes or so, and then on comes the condom. sex in several positions, finishing in a standing position, with her hanging on to my neck, legs wrapped around my back, me humping her with my hands on her ass for grip. great stuff.
but then when i pulled out, i saw red. no, i wasn't angry, i literally saw red on my dick. wtf? she sees this and is not surprised, and rubs some of it off my dick and runs off to the shower. wait...what?
she never explained this, so i have to assume it was either just the end of her period, or...something else? and she let me do daty on her in that state? doesn't that seem a tad irresponsible to you? yeah, i reaffirmed my opposition to daty, although who am i kidding, i am sure i'll be back at it tomorrow.
anyway, we slept at around 5:30am, and i awoke at 10:30am to find her gazing at my face. yup, like a cute puppy. we kiss and cuddle a little, and then she says 'happy may?' (are you happy?), and i said 'mmmm, you?' and she says 'yes' and buries her head affectionately in my chest. lying there that morning, i felt a special warmth for her, which just about counteracted the hole in my chest from losing to united.
what a cute, special girl. i shall return to pattaya to play with her some more. watch for my next report in which i do return for her, as well as bagging the sweetest ass in all of pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Un Le70]Dear Friends,
I would like to present one question for you and I hope as many of you would be willing to answer honestly. This is mainly for the "non-asian" guys among us (European, American, Australian)![/quote]Hi Uncle 70!
You don't like Asians. Or what? Any affiliations to KKK or such organisations
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[quote=kumbu]
so i walked across to fraser and took a deluxe room, which, as it turns out, is everything but deluxe. the initial quote was for 3200b, and i told them how ridiculous that was. it dropped to 3000, then to 2800, but that was as low as they would go. they threw in free internet (which really should be free anyway) and breakfast (which there was no way i would be awake for anyway). given my eagerness to get on with the festivities, i agreed. next time, however, i think i will not stay at fraser.
the room is small, very dark (not enough lights), shoddily constructed, and they cheap-out at every corner. e.g., they only give you one small bar of soap, so you need to constantly move it from the shower to the sink and back. also, the closet and bathroom doors (sliding doors) don't have any handles to grasp them. the bathroom door has a little hole that has been scraped out with a wood chisel which you can stick your finger into to get a grasp of it. that's just cheap, no two ways about it.
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the place is a total shit hole. i stayed there for one night and would never go back. i booked online at agoda, for about 65usd, it was not worth that, it was barely big enough for me to fit into and my room had a great view of the back alley. then they wanted a 1000baht as a deposit or some crap. then they wanted me to pay for the internet. the room was as kumbu wrote. i had forgoten how bad the place was until i read his report. i went out and found another room the next day. i had to fight to get my 1000 baht back, and then sit around while they sent some slow dude upstairs to check the mini bar. i would never stay there again.
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[QUOTE=Puta Playa]How much Thai does the typical Pattayan monger need to speak in order to have a good experiences like this at reasonable prices?[/QUOTE]Absolutely zero. In fact better no Thai than bad Thai, though they're used to that too in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]Good advice from you - to yourself perhaps.[/QUOTE]
Did I break the rules by asking him if he is gay? Is that an insult, or what do you mean?
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[QUOTE=Primo Bolan]Did I break the rules by asking him if he is gay? Is that an insult, or what do you mean?[/QUOTE]
So you are the self-appointed expert on Thai grammar and more interested in being a smart arse than politely pointing out the error.
In this wonderful, politically correct, metrosexual world of course your question was not insulting. Then again, not everybody wants to live in such a utopia and would find that harrassing, insulting and belittling.
Now where's that "ignore" button ....... Ah, there it is. Goodbye.
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[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]...
Now where's that "ignore" button ....... Ah, there it is. Goodbye.[/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,
I always knew that you are gay ... real men do not need the "ignore" button :) .
Khop khun, kaah!
Giotto
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-Sawadee ka, take me to Pattaya. Ill have to try that.
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[QUOTE=Primo Bolan]-Sawadee ka, take me to Pattaya. Ill have to try that.[/QUOTE]Very funny! Ha ...... ha ........................ yawn!!!
Giotto
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a missed spelling attempt
sorry for the non thai speaking attempt. Khap or whatever..
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Sorry for not being clear
[QUOTE=Suntangh R]Hi Uncle 70!
You don't like Asians. Or what? Any affiliations to KKK or such organisations[/QUOTE]To all my Asian friends who have miss-interpreted my message, I would like to say that I'm sorry for not fully explaining myself, which I'm about to do now.
I LOVE Asian people and consider you guys to be very lucky, because you have the facilities for having fun so close to your homes. I lived in China for a few years and enjoyed the available services whenever I could. I really have nothing against you guys. Actually I envy you.
My idea was to somehow provide the same services around Europe, US, or Australia, where they are not available. I was considering the money needed for the flight to Asia, plus the accommodations and food. I think it's possible to provide higher level within a cruise ship, for the same money. Of course the calculation only works for "short" trips (maybe up to 7 days), as for longer stays the flight cost becomes negligible.
The reason I was asking only the "Non-Asian" guys is because it would make absolutely no sense for Asian guys to fly to Europe and take the cruise. This for sure would be a waste of money.
Sorry again if I accidentally hurt anyone,
UN LE70
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[QUOTE=Un Le70]
The reason I was asking only the "Non-Asian" guys is because it would make absolutely no sense for Asian guys to fly to Europe and take the cruise. This for
UN LE70[/QUOTE]
That's exactly how I interpreted your message - it was not an ethnic exclusion (that makes no sense for a businessman like yourself), but more a geographical one.
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Last Weekend
the night was primed for success. my gunners were going to eek out a win against chelski and their degenerate captain, and i was going to score big time with a superb cutie from walking street. at least that was the plan.
the night started well enough...got to ws around 8pm, which is the earliest i have ever arrived. and truth be told, i think that's a tad too early. some bars were still closed, and the others were quite slow. first stop was baccara. i had been here the night before, enjoyed the large atmosphere, but didn't see any girls yesterday to my liking. i thought my luck might turn. sadly, the girls were quite ordinary. the atmosphere was still pretty good - large open bar, large comfortable seats lounge chairs at the bar's edge, which is a nice touch). i saw a couple of girls who were just about worth looking at, but certainly not bf worthy. i drank my draught, enjoying the lack of aggravation from pushy dancers or mama sans. but then one of the dancers started to scream. the would let out these periodic screeches which were supposed to indicate excitement (some doosh was tossing ping pong balls). but even later, when no doosh was to be found, the girl continued to let out the annoying screeches, thinking it drew positive attention to her. finally, that just was enough for me and i left.
next stop was airport. same story - ok girls, raunchy crowded atmosphere, but not to my liking. next was baby dolls - i haven't been in here for about a year, and i kinda liked it. the girls were a little to my taste - long legs, sexy woman-type, not the child-molester fodder in most of the other bars. but i had inclinations towards going back to roxy to try to get one of the three beauties that i had primed the night before. so i pulled the check from the can and as i did this, the waitress scurried over at the very same time that i caught sight of a magnificent set of legs in the mirror. i was temporarily confused by the sudden sensory overload as well as the mirror-effect, so i paid up and then set about trying to figure out what my eyes had found a moment ago.
so she was on the other side of the bar, on one of those raised solo-stages. holding a set of hanging chains and doing her little dance number. but what r
i was about ready got me was that there was a soft spot light aimed right at her legs, and no where else. so all i could see, literally, were her absolutely superb legs. long, toned, shapely and looking just juicy as hell. damned, they were good. the change then arrived, and i lingered a few moments, looking at her across the room. our eyes finally met, and she kept my engagement for perhaps 10 seconds, and then i broke away. i got up and walked towards her and the door, and as i approached, she gave me one of those one-eye-brow raises, like 'well stud? whatchoo got?' i paused, took note of her number, smiled at her, and ducked out through the curtain. must return here before i go back states side.
next was up the escalator to peppermint. i found no girls to my liking here, although i did see two big-breasted girls (d-cups, that's for you). one seemed chubby, but the other was big-boned but slim, with large tatas. but nothing else stood out, so i paid and bailed.
it was now 9:45pm, and i wanted to try to get laid before the arsenal game, so i needed to get cracking. so i made it over to roxy.
i walk in, and two of the three girls from yesterday were there. one of them recognizes me and giggles, wai. i smile, waive. the other girl, the one with the magnificant ass and legs, looked confused and asked her friend who i was. hmm, not a good sign.
drink arrives, i am seated right in front of where my two girls are dancing, and so we can't help but enjoy the somewhat awkward looksies.
then the girl who recognized me gets picked up by a japanese guy, and off she trots to change. ok, one down, one to go. i switch on the tractor beam look and direct it towards the superb ass and legs. at first, she is completely unaware of my presence. so i just take the opportunity to (i) make sure there is no one else to my liking in the bar (which there wasn't), and (ii) give her a thorough look-over.
so she has long dark hair (of course) and vbery light skin. her eyes are slightly deep-set, and very caring...intelligent too. her lips are full abnd perky, and her nose is, well, just a tad too large to be honest. it is a very prominent nose, raised up quite fully outof her head, and very un-thai to be honest. but i could live with this nose, considering everything else this girl had going for her. her breasts are covered, but that doesn't matter one bit. she has legs that are just to die for - shapely, perfectly proportioned, you know, the kind of legs you see on the skywalk in bangkok and wonder how thai women all have such great legs. and of course, the bum. oh my, the bum. what can i say, except holy cow. this is, in my opinion, the best ass in all of pattaya, perhaps of all the girls i have seen in both bangkok and pattaya. yes, it is that spectacular - great, round, fleshy, symmetrical, yadi yadi yada.
ok, so i am giving her the 'come hither' look, and she doesn't even see me. but i persevere. eventually she sees me looking, and then the flirting begins. she looks at me for a moment, then away to her left. then back at me, and then off to her right. she's just checking to see how consistent my gaze is - am i really interested? or was the eye-lock just a passing coincidence? she looks several times while she is doing her little dance on the stage. meanwhile, i am totaly engrossed in her physical features. i notice that she has cute, well-tended hands. she seems to have a flat chest, but i can't really tell because it is covered up. i notice that her knees, of all things, are turning me on like never before. i notice that her legs seems very, very shapely, although quite soft. hmm, i wonder what the fat-to-muscle ratio in those legs is...
suddenly she bolts. she moves off to her right, weaving through the line of dancers on the stage and exits stage left. she goes around the other side of the stage (not my side) to the bathroom, almost purposefully avoiding my gaze. but she walked with such purpose and without meeting anyone's eye gaze that i had a feeling i would have her in my lap pretty soon.
5 minutes passed, and i looked rather disinterestingly at the residue on the stage. and then finally she emerges from the back, and walks in my direction. she was walking past me, and not to me, so i shifted in my seat, which caught her attention, and i offered out my hand to help her up onto the raised seat. she smiled and took my hand. as i grasped her hand, i felt the skin softly caress my hand, and as i tightened my grip on her fingers and felt her tighten her grip on mine, i knew this girl was coming with me tonight.
she sat down, and we began the ritual.
her: what your name?
me: kumbu (not my real name, obviously). what's yours?
her: om.
me: om?
her: om.
me: om. om. om.
her: yes, om.
me: was that om (rising intonation) or om (falling intonation)?
her: om (rising intonation).
me: om (rising intonation)?
her: yes, om (rising intonation).
me: ah.
<awkward silence>
me: where are you from om (high intonation)...i mean, om (rising intonation)?
om: umm...me no speak engis. solly, one mo time?
me: oh crap, this is going to need extra work. where...are...you...from?
om: oh, udon thanii
me: ah, udon thanii.
om: you know?!
me: er - no.
anyway, the english situation was exceptionally bad. she could barely understand a word i said, and i couldn't get much out of her in terms of information. ordinarily, that would be a total deal breaker, but damn, as i spoke with her, my hand kept brushing against her thigh, and shit it was fine. i am not the typical groper, by the way. i don't go in there and grab every tit and ass i can. instead, i play it cool, and try to figure out whether we will click using other more subtle methods. so the thigh-brush was as much contact as i got at the beginning, and it was driving me nuts.
so we struggled to talk for 10 minutes, no mama san trying to sell her off as soon as possible. i bought her a drink, which she did not ask for but appreciated greatly. i then bought her another drink, as i tried to figure out whether it would be a crash-and-burn if i took her home, or whether it would work out. i was leaning toward the latter. while the communication barrier was immense, we still had some pretty good chemistry. i was able to crack a couple of jokes which did not require english, and she laughed in the most delightful manner. she grabbed my bicep, squeezed a little, then almost surprised, she squeezed a lot more. not sure if this is a practised routine to make all guys feel like they are surprisingly muscular, but it worked on me.
i began to touch her knees a little, then her mid-thigh, then her calves (not sure how i pulled that off, but it was groovy). eventually a friend of hers approaches and tries to settle the deal. i tell her that i will decide on a bf with the girl directly, but thanks for trying to facilitate.
eventually i ask her if she wants to go with me, and she smiles and says 'sure.' ok, sure means yes, right? right.
so she scampers off to some mild teasing from the girls on stage, and returns 5 minutes later wearing a frilly white dress which made her look like a beautiful country maiden. white? really?
so she takes my hand and we walk out into the crazy circus of walking street. as we walked back to the hotel, i discovered a couple of things, first, she was far smaller than i thought. she stood maybe 5'1" or so, which is a lot slighter than i expected or am used to. but she is so well proportioned, i failed to even notice her height in the bar. oh well, i'll have to see if the suv fits in her garage. the second thing was that she was extremely attuned to me. that is, as we walked, she kept touching me, switching hands, using the other hand to rub the outside of my hand, or the crook of my elbow. it made me think that this was her way of mating with me - you know, from animal planet, when the female begins the ritual of coupling by grooming, touching, rubbing, etc. well, it began on the cobbles on walking street. third, as we had to occasionally walk one behind the other to avoid being crushed by a speeding motocy, i looked down at her legs and just marveled. they are really, really phenomenal legs, my friends. she could easily be a professional leg model - perfectly shaped calves with milky smooth skin, toned and perfectly proportioned. i am totally a leg-man, and so i was just dripping wet with anticipation all the way back to the hotel. fourth, i noticed that it was around 10:45, so my gunners had not even started to rip into chelsea yet. the plans i had for this cute little bum was so extensive that it seems i would miss the game. oh well, i am sure they can cope without me.
she was hungry a little, but rather than demanding a meal, she said we should just drop by a 7-11, which we did and she grabbed some sausage and condiments, a pack of milk (?) and off we went - easy as pie. that's nice.
we got into the hotel and tried to chat over her meal. the chatting had gotten easier, but it was still a struggle. but eventually she showers, and then me, and then the fun began.
the fun consisted of some general vague pecking around the face, along with some gingerly petting and caressing. she was quite stand-off-ish, not in an angry way, but more in a starfish way. it seemd like she was just uncomfortable with the whole situation. ok kumbu, time for you to work your magic. so the pecking went slowly, and i chatted with her in pseudo-thai as best i could. the use of a few words of thai really made her feel more confortable, and soon she started to babble in thai, to which i mindlessly agreed and nodded, for fear of breaking her slowly elevating mood.
cutting a long story short, all of this warming-up culminated in her climbing ontop of me and giving me a deep, warm, embracing, open kiss. it was somewhat unexpected, but this signaled that i had managed to pry open this delicate little petal and the nectar was inside waiting for me to plunder. so plunder i did.
her breasts are indeed small, but i suckled them for a good 10 minutes. my hands found their way down her legs all the way to her ankles, and i just caressed her body, up and down, and back again. i ravaged her with my mouth and hands, dick safely kept under the towel around my waist. i was trying to warm her up, or rather, wet her up, before i unsheath my sword. she began to respond, writhing a little, breath gasping ever so slightly. as she moved her body from left to right, i took that opportunity to slip my hand beneath her and get my first, most grateful grab of that ass. ooooooh, it did not disappoint one bit. it was soft yet firm; full and extremely pleasing. i could not help but to let out a deep, appreciative moan as my hands sunk into that delactable flesh.
anyway, we kept at the body kissing. i never offered daty, nor did she offer it. the reason is because around 10 minutes into the heavy petting, she jumped up and said she had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. i heard her peeing in the bathoroom (she seemed to have a bladder the size of a horse and a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] stream to match - damn), and that just put the kaibash on the daty for the evening. but i enjoyed everything else about our time together.
eventually the body kissing led to my hand fingering her pussy, which was remarkably wet. that made me feel pretty good about myself - that i had gotten this remarkably beautiful woman all hot and aroused. it doesn't always happen, and so when it does, it is satisfying. we kissed as i fingered her, and she seemed to enjoy that combo a great deal.
so now it came time to see if the geometry was ok. her small body frame worried me a little. little kumbu is just a tad large for these small asian girls, hence i prefer the larger bodied girls. but i was going to give it a shot anyway. as i slipped the condom on, she says something in thai which could only have been something to the effect of 'how the fuck do you walk around all day with that thing between your legs?"
anyway, she spread her legs, and i gently inserted. surprisingly, it went right in - she was not tight at all. for a 25 year old, she was remarkably loose down there. hmm. i actually prefer that, since it allows me to fuck as long as i want, so giddy up.
we went at it for a really long time. a really long time - i was drenched in sweat by the time i finished, and i think she came two or three times. it was ridiculous. i think this nightly-sex-for-three-weeks-in-a-row thing is what helps me with the staying power. anyway, it was good; it was satisfying, and it will be repeated again in the near future.
so we showered seperately, and then into bed and she fell asleep with her head in the crook of my arm.
in the morning, i had to high tail it outta there to get back to bkk for work, so no time for morning sex (although she did offer). kissed her good bye and she kept saying that next time i come back i have to visit her at roxy. yes, i think the 2000baht she got has something to do with that.
so in sum, i think the most beautiful ass in pattaya is well worth a shag, although it is a lot of work given her english problems. but i definitely intend to return, since i think a repeat visit will be far easier. and that ass ain't gonna lose any of its luster over the next few days either.
when she left in the morning, the first thing i did was to log on and check the score for the game the previous night. behold the end of our title aspirations. and then the depression began.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]The night was primed for success. My Gunners were going to eek out a win against Chelski and their degenerate captain, and I was going to score big time with a superb cutie from Walking Street. At least that was the plan.[/quote]I like the style of your prose. Enjoyed reading it!
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[QUOTE=Un Le70]To all my Asian friends who have miss-interpreted my message, I would like to say that I'm sorry for not fully explaining myself, which I'm about to do now.
I LOVE Asian people and consider you guys to be very lucky, because you have the facilities for having fun so close to your homes. I lived in China for a few years and enjoyed the available services whenever I could. I really have nothing against you guys. Actually I envy you.
My idea was to somehow provide the same services around Europe, US, or Australia, where they are not available. I was considering the money needed for the flight to Asia, plus the accommodations and food. I think it's possible to provide higher level within a cruise ship, for the same money. Of course the calculation only works for "short" trips (maybe up to 7 days), as for longer stays the flight cost becomes negligible.
The reason I was asking only the "Non-Asian" guys is because it would make absolutely no sense for Asian guys to fly to Europe and take the cruise. This for sure would be a waste of money.
Sorry again if I accidentally hurt anyone,
UN LE70[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the clarification and I didn't mean to open a can of worms for you in my own response. But here is some food for thought.
Asian aren't exclusively in China or Asia... there are tons of Asians living in the continents you mentioned in your response and I think you would be very surprise if you started this venture how many might sign up. On the surface a fuck boat cruise sounds very nice since when it comes to the little head doing the thinking the objective and results are the same. We don't think any different than white folks, certainly I don't.
LBM, put me back on the list....
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Nice Kumbu!
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Sabai Soapies
I visited the three Sabai Soapy massage places at Second Road near the Big see in North Pattaya. The lineups at Sabailand and Sabai Room I wasn't very impressed with. Not bad looking but too old and looking a bit too 'professional'. Then I went to Sabai Dee, which is the biggest one and the furthest one north opposite the mall.
At Sabai Dee they have a second seating area for I guess the higher-end girls. I don't know if they're called 'sideliners' or not, but the regular window has girls for 1, 800, while in this second seating area they're 2, 000. There were only around half a dozen girls there, but a couple of them were young and cute enough to be tempting.
The girl I chose was I think she said 22, and slim and cute, but with not so good teeth. She was friendly, and flexible and open about my unusual preferences. I like to be a bit submissive or humiliated a bit by the girl. She seemed to be happy when I explained a bit and let her know that I wouldn't be expecting intercourse.
She didn't allow any blow job or DATY, but she allowed me to kiss and suck her feet, and wasn't shocked when I asked her to do a few kinky things. She even seemed to enjoy it. I guess its a bit different than the run of the mill, but I always wonder how many guys are into that type of thing. For all I know, maybe she's seen it all before.
She stood over me and rubbed her feet all over my face, let me suck her toes, and sat on my neck as I lay on my back, to kind of cut off my air. While she sat there giggling at me, she reached back and used her long nails on my nipples, while I masturbated. She also slapped me a few times at my request but she didn't seem to like that. After I came she cleaned me up and I gave her a 300 baht tip. (by the way at this soapy you pay the 2, 000 baht fee before going upstairs with the girl).
Anyway I think that guys who are into what I'm into might find it at these soapies. I wonder if any other guys have recommendations of places to find this kind of girl in Pattaya. I don't want the mistress type, I just want to be treated like a slave by a very cute fresh looking girl, preferably 18-23 or so.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Lordberners
[QUOTE=Lordberners]I visited the three Sabai Soapy massage places at Second Road near the Big see in North Pattaya. The lineups at Sabailand and Sabai Room I wasn't very impressed with. Not bad looking but too old and looking a bit too 'professional'. Then I went to Sabai Dee, which is the biggest one and the furthest one north opposite the mall.
At Sabai Dee they have a second seating area for I guess the higher-end girls. I don't know if they're called 'sideliners' or not, but the regular window has girls for 1, 800, while in this second seating area they're 2, 000. There were only around half a dozen girls there, but a couple of them were young and cute enough to be tempting.
The girl I chose was I think she said 22, and slim and cute, but with not so good teeth. She was friendly, and flexible and open about my unusual preferences. I like to be a bit submissive or humiliated a bit by the girl. She seemed to be happy when I explained a bit and let her know that I wouldn't be expecting intercourse.
She didn't allow any blow job or DATY, but she allowed me to kiss and suck her feet, and wasn't shocked when I asked her to do a few kinky things. She even seemed to enjoy it. I guess its a bit different than the run of the mill, but I always wonder how many guys are into that type of thing. For all I know, maybe she's seen it all before.
She stood over me and rubbed her feet all over my face, let me suck her toes, and sat on my neck as I lay on my back, to kind of cut off my air. While she sat there giggling at me, she reached back and used her long nails on my nipples, while I masturbated. She also slapped me a few times at my request but she didn't seem to like that. After I came she cleaned me up and I gave her a 300 baht tip. (by the way at this soapy you pay the 2, 000 baht fee before going upstairs with the girl).
Anyway I think that guys who are into what I'm into might find it at these soapies. I wonder if any other guys have recommendations of places to find this kind of girl in Pattaya. I don't want the mistress type, I just want to be treated like a slave by a very cute fresh looking girl, preferably 18-23 or so.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Try the castle you get what you ask for, give them a signal, or whatever you guys do when it gets dangerous, its on 3rd road, next to darling bar, that girl wouldn't blow you? Should have told her to fuck off and threaten to tell the boss, she would have changed her tune.
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Action during Good Friday / Easter
I intend to visit Pattaya fron April 1 to 4 th(my 4 th visit but then never during good Friday easter time.April 2nd happens to be good Friday).
Is it a foolish decision? Do the chicas take mass leave during this time?
Will appreciate the pundits advise.
Purayil
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Sabai Soapies, gogos and motorbikes: report
Talking of Sabai Soapies, I was there last week. I agree with Lordberners, S. Room and S. Land not very good, S. Dee far better: wider choice (although still poor compared to Bangkok or to Pattaya itself 10 years ago) and competent papasan. I ended up with a beauty from the Cambodian border region: quite young for a soapy (20 year old) and in my eyes a very, very nice girl. Perfect body, no signs, no stretches, no tattoos, no plastic anywhere. Service was ok, she was not very experienced but put a lot of effort. Her name is Bee, treat her well if you meet her, she is very sweet. I tip her big.
Gogo bars: well I was deeply disappointed by Boesche. Was there three times, never seen a girl I like, very few customers, fat ladies, bored waitresses. Now what happened there? It's been my favourite venue for years! Anybody knows something about it?
Superbaby ok as usual, supergirl so-so like all other gogo I visited, whose names are now a blur. Only Happy I do remember, got three ladies (not together.) and noone disappointed me. Beautiful and very active, all of them. If I had more time I would have taken another couple, precisely n. 91 and n. 4 whose nick is "Icecream" and yes I would have licked her from head to toe.
A new trend I noticed: people are going to gogo bars far earlier than before. In the past (I had holidays here for the last 21 years) I started my gogo evening at 10 or 11 and ended whenever I found anybody worth a commitment. So I went on until 2 or 3 am sometimes, and bars were always full of girls. If you visited a gogo before 9 you might have found a few girls and a couple of early birds having a drink before dinner. Now, if you go after 9 you may find that all best talents are already taken. Customers seem to have dinner at 6 and visit bars at 7. 30 or 8. Ridiculous! Don't know if this has something to do with the change in tourists (before: French, Italians, Germans, Aussies. Now: Russians, Britons, Chinese) or else, but it completely changes your schedule if you plan to visit gogo bars to find company.
Closing time is now 4 am and nudity is widespread. I would do without it, but once a bar opened the floodgates it was nude everywhere.
Cannot report on beer bars or beach road, I just do not like them.
And now motorbikes: one important warning if you plan to rent a bike: police stopped me twice. I was driving slowly, alone, with helmet, lights on, on my left. First time they check my papers (rental agreement and copy of passport) and let me go. Second time they ask me to open under the seat, to test the indicators, all ok. Then they ask me driving license and they want the original! No copy! A guy that was also stopped said there is a new rule: you should get a local license to drive even a small automatic scooter like the one I had, or else pay 400 baht fine. I can guarantee they were NOT looking for money because they stopped at least 20 people including locals, and all was done very openly, on Beach Road at 5 pm I even tried to pay on the spot but policeman refused and was already writing a ticket: with that ticket I should have gone walking (they keep the bike) to soi 9 (police station) stay maybe 2 hours in a queue, pay and come back. So I started yelling that I had enough, that police should stop crazy drivers with no helmet, drunken idiots in wrong ways, not regular tourists that follow the rules like I do blah blah. The captain approaches and I keep talking while thinking "in 2 minutes I will be free with no ticket, or in jail". Captain listens, I repeat with a slightly lower tone that I always follow the rules and that by harassing tourists they will only see tourism disappear. Captain says "ok no ticket now but next time original ok? " and let me go. I do not know if this is a new law or not. I was never asked to show original driving license in 10 years. If anybody has more info please report.
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[QUOTE=Un Le70]Dear Friends,
I would like to present one question for you and I hope as many of you would be willing to answer honestly. This is mainly for the "non-asian" guys among us (European, American, Australian).
Let's assume for a minute that there was a luxury cruise boat, with go-go bars similar to the Angeles bars, with Philippino/Thai/Chinese girls giving the same kind of service as in Angeles/Pattaya/Dongguan. It could travel between European cities, or US cities, so no flight would be needed. This boat would pick-up guests and go on short trips (maybe 3-5 days), with an option to book trips back-to-back (if you like longer vacations).
My questions:
1. Would you guys be interested in using such service instead of actually going to those preferred mongering sites (PI/Thailand/China)?
2. Today, when you have your vacation in those sites, how much do you spend on flights, accommodations, and food, not calculating the spending on the ladies (LD, BF, Tips, Gifts, etc.)?
Your opinion and information would be highly appreciated.
UN LE70[/QUOTE]
Great idea in concept but the execution would have so many legal issues I can't even begin to fathom them. Some one tried doing something similar off of NYC back during the Guliani years and lasted about a nanosecond. It got horrible publicity in the papers and then they started taking pictures of the guys going on board. They shut down quickly thereafter. How are you planning to get the girls from Asia - smuggle them in? The cost of getting to your boat and the price of the stay + the price of the girls would have to exceed simply going to Pattaya by magnitudes. My guess is girls are not going to go for 1000 baht - more likely Euro prices of 200 Euros. Plus every legal agency in the world would be after the ***** Boat. I can see CNN already doing an expose. My guess is that the average guy in P. spends about $50 a day on a hotel and $100 a day on girls/beer and $30 on food. Say $200. If you could beat that price and not get arrested, go for it. My guess is that you would have to market this to a much more upscale niche group than guys who go to Pattay and who can afford to spend a lot of dollars - but my guess is these people would be much too discrete to want to get on a boat full of other mongers for the world to see.
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[QUOTE=Irjle]
A new trend I noticed: people are going to gogo bars far earlier than before. In the past (I had holidays here for the last 21 years) I started my gogo evening at 10 or 11 and ended whenever I found anybody worth a commitment. So I went on until 2 or 3 am sometimes, and bars were always full of girls. If you visited a gogo before 9 you might have found a few girls and a couple of early birds having a drink before dinner. Now, if you go after 9 you may find that all best talents are already taken. [/QUOTE]
I noticed this too. I asked a girl who works out of Super Girl why this is, and she told me unequivocally that it is the Japanese and Korean tourists who are responsible. Their idea is to get in early, grab all the fresh talent for ST, run them back to the hotel for a 2 hour shag, then drink with buddies for a couple of hours, and then if the little samurai awakens, they go back to the gogo bars and pick through the left-overs.
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[QUOTE=DRRonin]Great idea in concept but the execution would have so many legal issues I can't even begin to fathom them. How are you planning to get the girls from Asia - smuggle them in? The cost of getting to your boat and the price of the stay + the price of the girls would have to exceed simply going to Pattaya by magnitudes. My guess is girls are not going to go for 1000 baht - more likely Euro prices of 200 Euros. [/QUOTE]
Don't forget the cost of the crew, fuel, food, etc. Good intentions, bad idea.
[QUOTE=DRRonin]My guess is that the average guy in P. spends about $50 a day on a hotel and $100 a day on girls/beer and $30 on food. Say $200.[/QUOTE]
If I spent that much I would be broke. My figures are more like $30 hotel, $60 girls/massages, $12 food and $6 scooter. $108....but I am actively looking for one of those $20/day apartments to cut costs, khrap!
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[QUOTE=Irjle]And now motorbikes: one important warning if you plan to rent a bike: police stopped me twice. I was driving slowly, alone, with helmet, lights on, on my left. First time they check my papers (rental agreement and copy of passport) and let me go. Second time they ask me to open under the seat, to test the indicators, all ok. Then they ask me driving license and they want the original! No copy! A guy that was also stopped said there is a new rule: you should get a local license to drive even a small automatic scooter like the one I had, or else pay 400 baht fine. I can guarantee they were NOT looking for money because they stopped at least 20 people including locals, and all was done very openly, on Beach Road at 5 pm I even tried to pay on the spot but policeman refused and was already writing a ticket: with that ticket I should have gone walking (they keep the bike) to soi 9 (police station) I do not know if this is a new law or not. I was never asked to show original driving license in 10 years. If anybody has more info please report.[/QUOTE] I got 2 tickets in July right in front of the police station on BR. He said he pulled me over for going the wrong way on Soi 8, which there was no way he could have seen from in front of the police station (unless someone radioed him). Then I did not have my license with me. There is a chart on the wall in the police station lobby with the fines. I should have had to pay 400 for each violation, but for some reason they only made me pay 600 together. I guess you get a discount when you commit more than one violation. I tried to pay him off too but it did not work. I know one thing, now I always follow the traffic rules and I always have my license with me. I don't know about any local license. Can someone who is a local please chime in on that?
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[QUOTE=Purayil]I intend to visit Pattaya fron April 1 to 4 th(my 4 th visit but then never during good Friday easter time.April 2nd happens to be good Friday).
Is it a foolish decision? Do the chicas take mass leave during this time?[/QUOTE]No, but some might say this is a foolish question... Thailand is a buddhist country and the vast majority of girls will not even have heard of Easter, let alone take the day off to go to church and eat chocolate eggs.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Thailand is a buddhist country and the vast majority of girls will not even have heard of Easter, let alone take the day off to go to church and eat chocolate eggs.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you of course... but my girls never seem to miss a chance to get chocolate ;) They sure know all about chocolate today (Valentines), and Easter, and Xmas, and New Year Gifts, and B Day Gifts, etc... the List is endless...
Pretty soon Hallmark will issue a "Glad you're my wh@re" card ;)
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
but I am actively looking for one of those $20/day apartments to cut costs[/QUOTE]
There are lots of very decent hotels for 400-500 bahts in Pattaya.
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My 2 cents and change on motorbikes,
From my observation from many years riding all over Pattaya, this is what I have seen and heard.
Farangs are riding ATM machines on scooters especially if you are driving and staying around the tourist area like Beach Rd. The check point at Soi 9 where the police station is located has a cop just before Soi 9, on Soi 9. until Central Festival, there is a check point just before Royal Garden and after and right around the beginning of Beach Rd as you are required to turn left. The main check point at Soi 9, the cops won't take money since it is too visiable and since they set up a pot that is split between all the cops in the station. There is a check point in Pattaya Tai near Tukcom, there is a check point just off Sukhumvit as you enter down Pattaya Klang, there is a check from time to time down Pattaya Klang as you cross 3rd right as you head down towards 2nd.
Anytime I'm near these areas I make sure especially Beach Rd. I'm always on the right side so I have less chance of being pull over. Once you are pull over they will find something wrong with you or your bike. My opinion their lack of English etc... so they can play dumb is just their method for a license to steal from Farangs. I have sat on Beach Rd. opposite Soi 9, just watching and if you ride like you don't know what you are doing or going, recklessly, no helmet or you passenger doesn't have one... they would pull you over.
I come from Sukhumvit into Pattaya Klang a lot and I have seen Farang as we are waiting for the light to change have good bikes and a helmet on but ride on the right get put over while I go by on the left. Maybe it's because they are fat or just that they are white but nearly every Thai gets a past.
At the same time they need our tourist dollars but that doesn't keep them from shooting themselves in the foot. Kids are out of school in March and April and return in May...November expect greater check points throughout Pattaya since tuition is due for schools.
As for the questions regarding Easter, it doesn't make a difference...if you got cash you will get some ass~
LBM
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Its funny, I've driven motorbikes in Pattaya for years, and only ever been the victim of the police shakedown when not wearing a helmet, or carrying a girl who had no helmet. Of course once they get you stopped they fine you the additional amount for no Thai driver's license, but I've never had them find anything wrong with the bike, or even look at it, despite my very poor bikes.
I do have a Thai driving license, but it is for driving a car, and doesn't appear to apply to motorbikes at all.
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Relieved, Mouse 1
[QUOTE=Mouse1]No, but some might say this is a foolish question. Thailand is a buddhist country and the vast majority of girls will not even have heard of Easter, let alone take the day off to go to church and eat chocolate eggs.[/QUOTE]That is a big relief mouse.
I was infact wondering about the girls taking leave because of the possible drop in farangs during easter.
Thanks anyway for the reassuarance.
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I'm a Motocy guy myself - I find renting, fueling, dealing with the cops, parking, weaving through traffic, all with that vague throb in your crotch from last night and the viagra hangover a bit much to take. Throw in the heat, humidity, pollution and noise, and you're asking for trouble. Of course, I am only ever in Pattaya for a few days at a time, and I never venture too far from walking street, so I have no need for my own scooter.
I jump on a motocy twice a day, end up paying less than 100B a day ($3), and I don't have to worry about anything. Plus, there is the added advantage of being able to take in the scenes while hanging onto the back of that motocy, which is always enjoyable.
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[QUOTE=DRRonin]Great idea in concept but the execution would have so many legal issues I can't even begin to fathom them. Some one tried doing something similar off of NYC back during the Guliani years and lasted about a nanosecond. It got horrible publicity in the papers and then they started taking pictures of the guys going on board. They shut down quickly thereafter. How are you planning to get the girls from Asia - smuggle them in? The cost of getting to your boat and the price of the stay + the price of the girls would have to exceed simply going to Pattaya by magnitudes. My guess is girls are not going to go for 1000 baht - more likely Euro prices of 200 Euros. Plus every legal agency in the world would be after the ***** Boat. I can see CNN already doing an expose. My guess is that the average guy in P. spends about $50 a day on a hotel and $100 a day on girls/beer and $30 on food. Say $200. If you could beat that price and not get arrested, go for it. My guess is that you would have to market this to a much more upscale niche group than guys who go to Pattay and who can afford to spend a lot of dollars - but my guess is these people would be much too discrete to want to get on a boat full of other mongers for the world to see.[/QUOTE]
let me add some more thoughts:
Hiring a 200 passenger cruiser will cost you 500k€ a week and that is a good price.
Lower capacities, will cost you proportionally more.
Then you have to face the difficulties to find a suitable crew.
How many of them will be ready to see but not watch what is going on? Or not to see at all? How amnywill be disturbed by the whole scenery?
People hired to work in brothels or similar mongering activities do that all year long, they know what the game is about.
But the staff of ship cruiser is not rady for that.
It will be super hard even to talk to boat broker about the idea.
A lot of mongerer do go to Asia for other purposes, for business realted activities, and then they cut times or days for the fun,
But there is no need to justify to your wife why you go to Asia.
Imagine having to say: I go one week holiday alone on a boat cruiser, sailing from a nearby harbour.
It might even hit the media news, so people will know there is a funny boat sailing...
If I get sick whilst I am in BKK (for work), nobody will be bothered, even if I break my foot stepping down from a soapie.
But if the same happens where you are not expected to be?
Think about communications etc.
During a work break in Asia I once have been in Thailand for fun and back home I told I was still in Taiwan or Malaysia, I can't rememeber... 4 complicate days to be careful on background noises during phone calls, trusting nothing happened.
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[QUOTE=Purayil]That is a big relief mouse.
I was infact wondering about the girls taking leave because of the possible drop in farangs during easter.
Thanks anyway for the reassuarance.[/QUOTE]No worries. If anything, there may be more farangs there at Easter, but you won't really notice any difference.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]I jump on a motocy twice a day, end up paying less than 100B a day ($3), and I don't have to worry about anything. Plus, there is the added advantage of being able to take in the scenes while hanging onto the back of that motocy, which is always enjoyable.[/QUOTE]I always seem to spend more than I anticipate... The motor bike guys seem to have very fixed rates (dependent upon crossing certain streets?) and I can never bargain with them. Moreover they seem to charge per person, so I've paid 2 x 40Bht for a short journey back to a hotel with two of us on the back of a bike.
OK, it's pennies...
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I have a car and several motorbikes including a sling. When it is up to me my first choice is by far a motorcycle or scooter. Even when it rains I prefer a scooter... why because if you ever drove in Pattaya and had to deal with their concept of driving by the time your get home the day is ruined. You just feel like getting a gun and sit on top of Sukhumvit and have target practice.
As long as you don't act like a fool ( like a Thai ) and drive defensively and use your mirrors you're going to be just fine. It's hot but you get there quickly never worry about parking, gas is cheap, and if you hit a car just take off like a Thai. I take a guess but I think at less 90% of people on scooters don't have any type of insurance to pay you that is why I feel they just take off. And like last year a lady bumped my wife in the back and take off... got the plates but seems no one cares! Cost to me 10,000 baht at the Toyota dealer.
If you're on a holiday just take the Songthaw, cheap and easy, want to get there quickly motorcycle taxis not as bad as people make it.
Walking isn't bad either one can learn a lot and see a lot of candy you normally would not see!
LBM
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2010 Songkran in Patts
Since we're on the topic of Pattaya at the time around Easter...
Am starting to plan my spring trip to LOS, and am keen to avoid the experience of Pattaya during Songkran week since it really isn't my thing.
Tried googling it, but getting various answers which isn't that helpful. So was wondering, is Songkran in Pattaya going to be 12-19 April this year?
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Tried googling it, but getting various answers which isn't that helpful. So was wondering, is Songkran in Pattaya going to be 12-19 April this year?[/QUOTE]
I understand it to start the 12th... I got work there in march and I plan to be out by 12th (or done with work atleast)... I'm with you I hate that holiday.... Ever since some fucking drunk jack ass Farang sprayed me with water while I was in work attire going to a meeting (in bkk not pat's however but ever since I hate this time).
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Don't forget the cost of the crew, fuel, food, etc. Good intentions, bad idea.
If I spent that much I would be broke. My figures are more like $30 hotel, $60 girls/massages, $12 food and $6 scooter. $108....but I am actively looking for one of those $20/day apartments to cut costs, khrap![/QUOTE]
Ya, I was thinking more for guys who come 2-3 weeks a year and save up for a nice trip staying at a decent place, eating and drinking well and going with 2 girls a day. Once you are semi-living here your expenses have to go way down or most of us would be broke. When I stay in Bk for 6 months, my average daily output is probably close to yours.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]I'm a Motocy guy myself - I find renting, fueling, dealing with the cops, parking, weaving through traffic, all with that vague throb in your crotch from last night and the viagra hangover a bit much to take. Throw in the heat, humidity, pollution and noise, and you're asking for trouble. Of course, I am only ever in Pattaya for a few days at a time, and I never venture too far from walking street, so I have no need for my own scooter.
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For the most part, mostly true but don't need to limit yourself to just the Walking St area as most of Pattaya is well cover by the 10baht songthr.(bus) so very easy to get around as it's never over 1-2min wait for a bus.
Shark
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I understand it to start the 12th. I got work there in March and I plan to be out by 12th (or done with work atleast). I'm with you I hate that holiday. Ever since some fucking drunk jack ass Farang sprayed me with water while I was in work attire going to a meeting (in BKK not pat's however but ever since I hate this time).[/QUOTE]I'm making my first trip to Thailand from April 8-24, arriving in Pattaya on the 16th. I am truly hoping that the water fights will be over, or at least on the wane, by that time.
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US Military Pattaya Best Ever
I am in Pattaya for a few days and the US Military are still here after their recent excercise...i have to say right now Pattaya is the most pumping I have ever seen it. The bars are packed and there are loads of young, fun (and very polite and well mannered) US military types giving the place a real sort of Vietnam R&R type feel. It is so refreshing from the usual guys old guys, and Pattaya locals and English lager louts that is the usual mix. The girls are a lot more pumped up and the energy and fun levels are much higher than usual...for my money the best bars in Pattaya right now are Babydolls, Whats Up Bar and The Iron Bar....got an absolute stunner from Sharkys also with big C cup breasts and a perfect body...19 years old and 40 kgs!! Great performed too. For big breast fans try Super Baby which has one girl with massive D cup boobs and although a big girl she is not fat at all...just bigger boned, hope to see her tonight if she is not gone already...also in Whats Up bar in the upstairs area is a girl with a thing body and huge rack....boobs look like she just had a kid but actually she has not.
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[QUOTE=Big Larry]Opinion seems to be split re pregnant girls. About 90% of guys seem appalled by the idea, the other 10% turned on. Anyhow if you happen to be in the 10% you might like the attached pics.[/QUOTE]Can you PM me her details or post it here?
I cannot send you a PM.
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Girls Taking Off for Songkran?
I may be going to Thailand (Pats & Phuket) most likely the first couple of weeks in April and am wondering if many of the girls, especially the hot ones, go home for Songkran. If so, when do they leave and when do they return? Do they return???
I'm used to Tijuana where many girls leave a week before Christmas and don't come back until February. And many never return at all.
I can live with the water wars but not a shortage of quality poon.
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My Report
Hi everybody!
I could not read your recent report because I came back from Pattaya with a bad pink eye infection and I can't stand the screen, so I am here face down just looking at the keyborad and typing my report.
I think that after all my questions and request for help I owe you something back, to the one of you first-timers like me as well as to veterans who may enjoy some talking about our main topics. A special Hello, to Thai Learner who I was about to meet there but then, once in Pattaya, anything happens and I was drifted elsewhere by hotel mates, girls, beaches, everything.
So, now I start for real. I have to say that I am overall happy of the experience but I did not enjoy myself as much as I expected.
Part of the let down is for personal reason, example I hate discos music and loud venues and I became fed up quickly with the Walking Street bars (but soi 6, 7, 8 are not much different, after all) but I suppose you are not interested in this. On the other hand, part of the disappointment came from cost of nightlife and because money is about everyone I think this is something we may confront here.
I went to Pattaya with this idea in mind that girls were 500 bath s/t or 1. 000 l/t. I was told so by a friend of mine who used to go every year in the past 4 ys so I had no reason to doubt about it. Only thing he underlined is that he was after a dirty woman rather than a young cutie, so that you may justify cheap rate to you, but I remember girls reported as good looking as well, so we are not talking of the bottom of the chart.
Much to my surprise, I discover quite different rates once there, so I will share this with you to understand if information provided by my friends were wrong or if rates have actually increased since last year. I cannot confront directly with him because he could not come this year, due to hard work and for the same reason I have not speaken to him since my comeback.
I will list my report considering different "class" of girls.
FREELANCERS.
Walking up and down Walking Street I came across many, many fine looking girls already engaged with other gentlemen. I ignore if they were freelancers or bar girl but I was under the imppresion that best was already gone in late January and there were either some left-over available or some expensive one (I will explain this better later).
Girls literary hooking standing on the walkside were no pretty at all, I was lucky enough to get few "walking" girls who looked good and just charged me 500/1. 000 but many others, once got acquainted a little, thay asked me: "How much you give me? "
As I suggested the ordinary 500/1. 000 some tried to raise me to 1. 000/2. 000, some other walked away waving bye-bye without even negotiating.
A girl on Beach Road charged me 700 short time: she was average good looking but no gorgeous and once in the room, she refused me french kiss as well as c. I. M. (anal did not even ask). Another one, a chubby shortie hooked at 4 am out of disco was quite cold in the room and I remember the way she looked disgusted the 500 bath I gave at the end of the session and asked explict 1. 000.
So, this is my general feeling: not cutie, not dirty, not cheap girls as I believed but a mediocre average of it all.
Another bad note goes to disco girls. I mean no bar girls but seemingly "free" girls who go to disco, dance and get acquainted with farang.
I remember I wasted few nights going to Lucifer or Walking Street. Because I hate disco I tried to rush the leaving-disco-for-hotel, but I got a lot of refuse.
Again, I got the impression that thay are not (or don't see themselves) as prostitutes but as girls who like to get a farang for the night who make them dance and drink and after all that maybe go to hotel only if they like the guy. And if this happen, thay get money in the morning the same. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't like that: it seems to me that you have to court AND to pay a girl and I generally pay just because I don't want to flirt too long before sex, if you know what I mean.
The worst of all is the Insomnia bar just at the ground floor below disco. There, very fine girls chat, flirts, and play pool with farang, but if you try to take them out they ask to stay for one more drink or they say they don't work and one of the waiter is her boyfrined. Mmmm. 1, 2, 3 girls same night each one engaged with one of the waiter? What is it, "girlfriend night"? I don't buy it, they are just fake who tried to make customer stay there to drink.
So, after experiencing all this I decided to turn myself to
BAR GIRLS
Maybe it is easy for me to pay-and-go. For many reasibs I don't like the idea of a "barfine" but that's it. Only thing is that is quite hard to spot the "right" girl because there are so many of them and if you just start approaching to have a look to one bar they ask you to sit down and have a drink, so that you can not sit to many bar before finding your mate because that would mean drink the night away spinning hollow.
Moreover, girls working in bars are not necessarely more beautiful than ones on the street and not even hotter in bed so you find yourlsef asking why. Anyway, I had some good time with few bar girls but, again, no deep kissing, no c. I. M. And sometime not even BBBJ. And rates, again, 1. 000/1. 500 up.
Eventually, I though about considering
GO-GOs
First, there is a hell of an urban legend according to which after they get off from work about 3 am girls from go-gos who where not chosen by farang and stayed on the floor until closing time would be inclined to go hotel with one of customer waiting for them outside bar. That would be convenient for both: man because can get girl without paying barfine and lady because they can raise their money rather than going home alone. This is another fake. Girls from go-gos who come out at 3 am after dancing all night are tired and would maybe go with somebody who made deal with them inside bar (meaning: drinking and flirting from late night till closing time), not with first drunk nobody on the street.
By the way, barfine in Go-Gos like Shark and Tiger is 600 bath, and girls charge usually 1. 000/2. 000, which sounds like twice ordinary rate.
So, we are back at start, again, money for drinks, money for barfine, money for girls. It seems there is no way to escape one of them and still get good pussy. After all, it is all quite affordable and possibly still the best bet around, but no "el dorado" as described by somebody.
It was my first time there, but again my feeling is that good times with dolls who make you groove for peanuts are gone, if there ever were, and now business is sneaking deeply into Pattaya too, so that fun is becoming more expensive, girls are getting more comfortable with money-making and self-managing and, ultimately, sex is following rules of the games much as anywhere else more and more.
Given that I could never go there in December because my business is involved with Christmas, if I ever go back I may try late November rather than mid-January to see if the going is more laid back at the begin of the season and cute girls are more available. Meantime I wait to know your point and read your opinion.
I kindly ask to avoid any comment only to the one of you who think they can judge me a cheap charlie. All opinions expressed come from a working class guy trying to get the best from his only hard-earned holiday.
So, if you are retired business men or go-getters who can easily afford plane ticket, hotel, taxi, cocktail on beach, restaurant, shopping et cetera, if it don't mean anything to you if it is 1. 000 or 2. 000 and you don't care paying barfine I am happy for you, but plaese don't laugh at me. Just bypass my post and go your own way.
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I was interested to read your report because I am going to Pattaya in a few weeks.
From reading other forums, I think you suffered from peak season prices. At least, I hope so, because I am expecting prices to be a bit lower in April.
The other point I think is that, if you didn´t like loud music, Pattaya was possibly the wrong choice of holiday. Pattaya sells itself as a loud party town. Perhaps Phuket (outside Patong) would have been better.
I do think the girls are prettier in Pattaya though!
So you made the right choice there...
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Your report
Well...
1- It's still peak season so there is more tension on prices. I stayed there at the beginning of December and I saw the girl's attitude progressively changing as peak season was coming. At low season they are starving for customers.
2- In Thailand, as in some other places, what you pay is like a ticket allowing you to play. If you want the girl to be GFE you need to be BFE and gentleman with her. I've been always rewarded for flirting with them.
3- Prices are not the same anywhere: cheaper at Beach Road, then discos (late), then Bier bars and discos (early), then Gogos. In discos they are usually looking for LT and may not accept ST, at beach road and in gogos they often prefer ST.
4- As in any transaction, if you want to get cheap price (in particular during peak season) you often need to bear non-monetary transaction costs, search cost, time cost, etc...
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Sexual Healing
I rarely comment reports but yours was interesting. I don't think you are a cheap charlie, I believe this definition is for people who do not tip good girls, or bargain with girls forgetting it's just 4 or 5 euros/dollars difference. Being cost conscious is a long-term approach, totally different.
I have been in Pattaya very often in the last 20+ years and yes the good times are gone, the cheap, stunning beauties have disappeared together with the nice beaches and clean waters (well they were never that clean.). Like you say, it's no "el dorado" any more.
Go-gos are my primary choice. The rates you mention (1k-2k) are real and cannot be avoided (normally). Yes it may be double the ordinary rate but it is well worth because go-go girls are usually way better than average, and you also save time, plenty of it.
Two weeks ago I met two Italian guys that visit Pattaya 2 or 3 times a year and never go to go-go bars. I spent a couple of evenings with them because they were fun, so I had a break from my routine and could see other people's habits: we walked on beach road maybe 3 or 4 times its entire length from soi 6 to walking street before we could find someone likeable. It was like 2 or 3 hours with some stops in bars for refreshments. So I ended up tired, wasted my evening and paid 300 or 400 just to stay hydrated. Needless to say, the quality of girls was terrible so I went back alone to my hotel, my legs aching. Compare this to my average evening: I visit 3 or 4 air conditioned bars, have one drink in each one and (optional) pay 2 ladydrinks and 1 barfine. In "worst" (LOL) case total damage is like 1200 baht (plus the short/long time fee). Well I am very happy to pay the extra 800 and the extra 1. 000 to the girl, given the differences I mentioned. The two guys always found someone they like. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as you know, so good luck to them but after this experience I will stick to my go-gos for life. The beauty of Pattaya is that anybody can find his match with a little patience: if you have more patience and energy than I have you'll probably save some hundred baht per evening and also find a nice companion. Not sure though.
Discos: Lucifer, Insomnia. Your impressions are 100% correct IMHO. If you are young and good looking, and you like horrible music and dark, crowded places you may save some money and go home with a real beauty but: 1) chances are she is on some sort of drugs. 2) most beauties are not so beautiful when you see them in a normal light. 3) if you plan to pay less than 1. 000 the next morning be prepared for trouble 4) you have to act like a guy in a disco which is. Well you know: we pay to AVOID that!
You may find the occasional go-go girl wandering in a disco at 3 or 4 am (it is NOT a urban legend: one girl from Happy confirmed this just last week, and several others in the past) but they are few and may be really tired (or high, which is worse IMHO).
So how to cut your expenses without giving up quality? Possible solutions
1) Keep walking: not just beach road, but shopping malls, second road, once in a while you'll find a gem. Wear comfortable shoes, do it from noon to midnight, be relaxed, smile and good luck.
2) Go only to go-gos and massage parlours: when you find a girl you like just take her and if you like the experience she will easily see you before or after work in the next days, so another barfine or massage fee is avoided, plus you have a girl you do like. Buy a thai phonecard: the wonderful mobile phone makes easy what in the past was impossible: keep contact with the girls. Girls used to be hostages of their workplace. Not anymore! So use technology to your advantage!
Summing it up, do not expect too much from Pattaya, but don't be negative: you'll certainly have fun once you find your own rhythm and places. I am sure you will enjoy Pattaya next time you go there, as many of us do.
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Taxi ride to Pattaya
This is just a description of negotiations with a taxi guy to take me to Pattaya from BKK. I always wondered what this would be like, and so I suppose someone else on this board might benefit slightly from this. My next report is the details of what actually happened in Pattaya.
My plan was ambitious - something I was all too aware of as I crafted it. The plan was to get off work at 3pm, then hightail it over to Ekkamai and catch a bus down to Pattaya in time to meet my gogo girl before she goes to work. So if I arrived at 5:30, that would give us two hours before she had to run off to check in at the bar. Then the evening is free for me to recuperate a little, then hit Roxy for round 2 with Om (girl with the superb ass from a few nights ago). As you can see, timing was crucial here - I had to get to Pattaya in time for my girl to get to me before the gogo bar opened, or else I would be stuck with her the whole night.
But work proved itself reliable and ran late, so I got out at 3:50. No way I'm getting to Pattaya by 5:30 now. In fact, we're looking at a 7pm arrival. So I grabbed a taxi down there. I got into a regular BKK meter taxi and told the guy I wanted to go to Pattaya. He chuckled and said something in Thai. Me no understand, and he no speak English. So he pulls out his calculator and types in 1700. I balk, grab the calculator and type in 1000. He laughs long and heartily, and then counters with 1500. I do a Beavis hee-hee, type in 1200 and I say that HE pays the tolls. He is now confused by tolls, so he calls his friend and gives me the phone. His friend asks me how much I want to pay, and I tell him 1200, but he has to pay the tolls. The guy says no. So I said ok, I will pay the tolls, but that's it. The guys says no, 1500. So I say, ok, tell the taxi guy to take me to the BTS - I will go to Ekkamai and take a bus. All of a sudden, 1200 + tolls seems pretty good, so we agree. But he says that this current taxi guy doesn't know his way to Pattaya, and we need to make a switch. So I tell him to be quick, and 10 minutes later I am in a different taxi with a new driver.
This guy seems older and more experienced. He turns to me and starts a new negotiation - how much you say? He hands me a piece of paper and a pen, so I write down the following: 1200 (tolls = 150). He looks at this, mumbles to himself, and counters with the following on the piece of paper: 1300 total. I was about to protest, saying that 1200+tolls comes out to more than 1300, but I agreed. So that was it - 1300 total payment for door-to-door service. It was a little expensive (I know you can get some taxis to go down there for 1000), but given my intense need to copulate, I just let the 300 baht go.
2 hours later, 6:15pm, I was in Pattaya showered and waiting for my girl. To Be Continued.
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I Lub You, and the dreaded X-Men
My gogo girl was one that I met a week ago (I don't want to mention which bar or her number/name or anything because she was breaking the rules by seeing me outside of office hours. I know this is not uncommon, but still). She arrived at 6:20, and we spent 2 delightful hours nuzzling, kissing, groping and, yes, copulating.
About half way through this, she pulls back a little, looks me in the eye and says 'I lub you'. Oh crap. I look at her with a blank but slightly puzzled look on my face. I've been with this girl three times now, known her for a week, and she drops the Lub bomb on me now? Sensing this, her expression changes to one that says 'Too soon?' I smile, kiss her, and go on with the love making. Afterwards, as I dismiss her from my presence, she says it again 'I lub you tilak.' Oh crap, please stop saying that! I don't need this emotional baggage.
So I shower long and hard, trying to wash the sound of that sentence out of my mind. I had lots of crazy sex to engage in - I couldn't do that with this sentence ringing in my head. But I couldn't shake the sight of her lowered chin, puppy-dog eyes, trembling voice saying 'I lub you.' Shit.
Eight O'Clock, ran over to the Lebanese restaurant on second road, had some Hummus and bread, and scampered over to Walking Street. Made a bee line for Happy Agogo and their 59B draft beer - guzzled two of those things down, washing away some of the emotional distress I was under. Watched the jiggling bums and shaking legs is cathartic.
I spy three beautiful girls, each with round, luscious asses. The first girl, #46, has what is in my opinion a pretty nice ass. It's just a little celluliscous, but delectable nonetheless. But she's got attitude - she dances very slowly, avoids eye contact and seems generally pissed off. But she's pretty, pretty, pretty, that's for sure. The second, #61, is much more bouncy. She has braces, big hair, B-cups, petite-yet-prominent booty. Nice to look at, probably great in bed. And third is #71 who has the most unusual figure - she is skinny, small b-cups, skinny legs, and an ass that is just...well...bubbly. It's weird, it's like the butt cheeks just hang out there, well shaped and everything, but just disproportionate to the rest of her body. The downside is that her face is rather hard - her cheeks (facial, that is) are depressed a little, causing her lips to protrude a little, giving her a slightly unapproachable look. So there we have it - three nice asses, none of which are Kumbu-worthy tonight.
So I pay up, trot over to Roxy to pick up Om from the previous night, but sadly she has already been BFed. Wow, that was early - Roxy opens at 9pm and at 9:15 she was gone. Popular girl. Anyway, I drift back down walking street and decide to drop into Baby Dolls. The waitresses here are really cool - I have a great rapport with them. We joke around, yak-yak a lot, and they are generally very fun to be with. So I go in, get another beer, and then look around as the waitresses ply me with kind words, massages, and some small Thai snacks that they are all sharing. I see two potentials - #51 and #55. But I am not buzzed enough yet to drop the 'I lub you' thing yet, so I order a second beer and the girls all look at me. A second beer? This guy must be serious...I am suddenly a mark.
After 10 minutes, #55 comes over and sits her pretty self next to me. She is small, very slight, with a pretty face and a staggering figure. Shit, female proportions are defined by this girl - perfect sized breasts for her body, teensy little waist, round hips, pert butt, nice legs, damn, she has it all. But 3 minutes into our talking the DJ announces the change in dance sessions and she has to go dance. Ok, that would give me a chance to inspect her figure more fully.
So she gets on stage and comes over and starts to dance right in front of me. the thing is that dancing right in front of me meant that she was also dancing right infront of the three guys to my left. Guy #1 was an old German dude on his fourth beer (just getting started for a German); guy #2 was a Steve Buscemi lookalike - he had those brown teeth, stringy hair, skinny as hell, sunken eyes, poorly shaved chin; and Guy #3 was well-dressed white guy playing on his phone sending text after text without looking up. He's wearing a formal shirt, long sleeved, with dark blue slacks and formal shoes. He has a coke/Whisky in front of him from which he has not had even a single sip. He was the pro amongst us, I could tell.
Girl #55 is dancing one sexy dance, twisting hips, flicking her hair, mmm, groovy. Guy#1 shifts in his chair and mutters something to himself in German. I see Steve Buscemi chuckle and wipe the spit from the edge of his mouth. And Guy#3, Mr. Pro, keeps hacking away at his qwerty keyboard, seeming not to notice the girl at all.
The girl is clearly working all four of us. She positioned herself such that no other girl could come close to us, and she was working the line of guys very carefully. She would look at me a little, then give me a very, very subtle smile from one side of her mouth. This would indicate to me that *I* am the one she really likes, but it would be so subtle that the other three guys could not see it. She then would move her primary gaze over to German Guy, and do the same with him. The Steve got his 2 minutes of attention, and then Mr.Pro got it too, despite his seeming lack of interest. Then it was back to me. This girl was good.
So the waitress comes over and starts to tease me.
Waitress: You like pretty lady, no?
Me: Yup, she sure is pretty.
Waitress: She like you, I can tell.
Me: How can you tell?
Waitress: She came to you to talk - she never do that.
Me: Sure.
waitress: Leally, she never do like that with other cutummer (customer).
Me: Ok.
waitress: You want buy lady dink?
Me: when she is done, I am enjoying myself right now.
10 minutes later, Mr.Pro snaps his head up and motions the mama san over with great urgency. Mama san runs over, pushing aside two waitresses in the process. Mr.Pro cracks out some orders, and mama san turns to girl #55 and orders her over to Mr.Pro. What? I have dibs on her, and Mr. Pro bucked the line! Before I can get too upset, waitress explains that money talks. Mr.Pro is buying the girl a drink, which, it must be said, was something that I was asked to do and I declined. I no buy drink, she no sit with me. I knew that.
So the guy starts to chat her up, pulls her close and lays her small head on his chest, puts his arm around her and cuddles her like she belongs to him already. Meanwhile, I am hearing it from the troupe of waitresses: I let this one slip out of my hands; I waited too long; the rich white guy beat me to her; no problem, many beautiful ladies here, etc. They're cackling at me like a group of hyenas, and it was getting a little old. But one waitress comes over, put sher arm around me as if to console me and tells me to be patient. She starts to massage my forearm a little, gently whispering in my ear that all hope is not lost. Truth be told, I'm getting a little turned on by this waitress - if only she were 15 years, 50 pounds and three kids lighter. She says that this girl has had four customers buy her drinks already, but no BF. The waitress believes there will be no BF coming from Mr.Pro tonight - that was her professional opinion. I asked her how she knows that, and she just shrugged and said she knows. I was not so sure.
5 minutes pass and Mr.Pro orders some ping pong balls. You can buy ping pong balls in the amount of 1 for 20B, 5 for 100B, a small basket for 500B and a big basket for 1000B. He buys the big basket and without even thinking about it, he tosses the whole thing into the bath/shower show to the left. The girls scream and dive into the foamy water to retrieve the balls, spoiling their makeup and hair in the process. Why did Mr.Pro just do that? Makes little sense to me.
He then orders another basket of balls and summarily tosses that onto the dance floor, and the girls all scurry around screaming trying to pick up the balls. Again...Mr.Pro...why you do dat? He then orders the check-bin, pays up, gives #55 100B in tip, and leaves. Umm...what does baffled mean? I don't get what he thinks he just accomplished, other than blowing 2500B on nothing. Ok, so he comes back the next day and is treated like a king, but you can do that by spending 500B.
#55 watches him leave, and as soon as he is gone, she jumps up, runs over to me and puts her small head on my shoulder as if to say 'I really wanted you, not that ridiculously rich, handsome, well-dressed, moderately insane guy that just left'.
We talk a little, I buy her a drink, and then at the behest of the waitress, I BF her. The BF is expensive here, for whatever reason. On Fri, Sat and Sun, BF=1000B, and on other days it is 700B. This is not right. It was a Sunday night, so they wanted to charge me 1000B. I protested, so they dropped it to 700B. This is still above market rate, but I needed something to take the edge off the 'I lub you' moment that was playing ad nauseum in my head.
So we bust outta there, walk back to the hotel, and once on the bed, we start the small talk. She's 19 years old, weighs 41kg, stands a mere 5'1", and as I said before, stunningly proportionate. After 10 minutes of small talk I go shower, and when I get out I hear her screaming to me and she rushes into the bathroom and says:
#55: Baby, me have pompem.
Me: What's the problem baby?
#55: So solly, me have X-men.
Me: ...
#55: X-men, X-men, me so solly.
Me: Umm...
#55: But me ok outside, no pompem. But me have pompen with X-men.
Me: Wolverine? Dr. X? Alot of people have a problem with the last movie, but...
#55: ...?
Me: Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.
She grabs my hand and pulls me back into the bedroom...and behold! My bed, previously pristine white sheets, was now covered in red bloody splotches. Oh crap. I mean, Oh period. Ok, so it's her period, right, and I have BFed her, right, and what am I supposed to do with her now? No clue. I sure as hell am not boinking that thing now, and the BJ ain't worth my time or effort, so WTF?
So she is very apologetic, and she says that everything on the outside is fine, so I can play with that, and that if I give her 10 minutes she can mop up whatever is inside with a stick tampon so there will be no visible effect of the period, so everything will be ok. Ok?
No, not ok. I tell her it is time for her to go. She protests, saying mama san will be angry. I tell her that I will not tell mama san if she does not, and that I am not angry (disappointed, but not angry), so let's just call it quits and she can leave. She asks for some money, and I resist laughing, but tell her that money is only for those that do things. And with a period, she should not be working, so no, no money. She understood. She was not happy, but did not protest beyond sticking her lips out to pout.
Does anyone know what this girl intended when she said X-Men? I mean, what is the target word for her? Was it in Thai, or is there some English word that means period that sounds like X-Men?
Anyway, she left, and I was left with a bloody bed and a wasted night. I couldn't go out and bring another girl back to this bloody mess, and I don't like ST hotels, so I decided to call it a night and went to sleep. As I got into bed, carefully avoiding the bloody sections, I decided to flick through the channels looking for the Arsenal game, and lo and behold, it was on tv, and only 5 minutes into the game. Great, I pulled out a Heineken from the minibar and I watched a laboring Arsenal beat a toothless Liverpool 1-0, while United and Chelsea both dropped points. All of a sudden, my night was rocking!
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Hey there .. Good perspective, thanks for posting. I also get no thrill from throwing money away, and in my experience the more money is involved, the worse the service and experience becomes. (This isn't an absolute rule, of course.)
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]I went to Pattaya with this idea in mind that girls were 500 bath s/t or 1. 000 l/t. I was told so by a friend of mine who used to go every year in the past 4 ys[/QUOTE]
Maybe he didn't actually go there. Sounds like straight-up bullshit to me, except if he stuck to Beach Rd veterans.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]First, there is a hell of an urban legend according to which after they get off from work about 3 am girls from go-gos who where not chosen by farang and stayed on the floor until closing time would be inclined to go hotel with one of customer waiting for them outside bar.[/QUOTE]
Once I flirted with a waitress from the gogo opposite Kitten Club in Soi Pattayaland. At closing time I poked my head in again and ran into her. Asked her to come with me and she nodded, asked how much and it was "up to me", asked again and she said as long as it's not less than 1000. Very pleasant night ensued. And I can't go with an ugly girl, she was damn nice. So it does happen, with luck. I think I gave her something like 1300 ..
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]By the way, barfine in Go-Gos like Shark and Tiger is 600 bath, and girls charge usually 1. 000/2. 000, which sounds like twice ordinary rate.[/QUOTE]
Sounds perfectly standard to me; many bars would try to push that higher.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]It was my first time there, but again my feeling is that good times with dolls who make you groove for peanuts are gone, if there ever were, and now business is sneaking deeply into Pattaya too, so that fun is becoming more expensive, girls are getting more comfortable with money-making and self-managing and, ultimately, sex is following rules of the games much as anywhere else more and more.[/QUOTE]
"If they ever were" indeed. There are cheaper places in the world, but they simply don't come with 5-star hotels, excellent international flight connections, international restaurants, good roads, cineplexes, upscale shopping centers, etc. Sex in Pattaya is incredibly cheap for a place which offers all of that. The only reason it is, is because it draws on a supply of girls from poor provinces, and because of a lot of competition. Business isn't "sneaking" into Pattaya, business *is* Pattaya and has been from day one. I think it's more that the standard of living in Thailand is rising across the board.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Given that I could never go there in December because my business is involved with Christmas, if I ever go back I may try late November rather than mid-January to see if the going is more laid back at the begin of the season and cute girls are more available.[/QUOTE]
Why on earth focus on the season? Come in June! Seriously :-)
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]...Does anyone know what this girl intended when she said X-Men? I mean, what is the target word for her? Was it in Thai, or is there some English word that means period that sounds like X-Men?..[/QUOTE]
menses ... menstruation ... on the rag ... period! X marks the spot(s) on your sheet.
You should have cut your losses and taken the blowjob. (IMHO, of course)
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Peak Season
[QUOTE=El Frances]Well.
1- It's still peak season so there is more tension on prices. I stayed there at the beginning of December and I saw the girl's attitude progressively changing as peak season was coming. At low season they are starving for customers.
2- In Thailand, as in some other places, what you pay is like a ticket allowing you to play. If you want the girl to be GFE you need to be BFE and gentleman with her. I've been always rewarded for flirting with them.
3- Prices are not the same anywhere: cheaper at Beach Road, then discos (late), then Bier bars and discos (early), then Gogos. In discos they are usually looking for LT and may not accept ST, at beach road and in gogos they often prefer ST.
4- As in any transaction, if you want to get cheap price (in particular during peak season) you often need to bear non-monetary transaction costs, search cost, time cost, etc.[/QUOTE]When I was there I was told that peak season starts Nov 1. I was also told hotel prices and other prices would double then. Could someone clarify during which times prices double and if it is better to go just before peak or is just after peak better?
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff] Maybe he didn't actually go there. Sounds like straight-up bullshit to me, except if he stuck to Beach Rd veterans. [/QUOTE]
You can pretty much pull any girl from Beach road, even the best looking of them, for 500 ST. The older or less good looking ones will go for less, if one is inclined to be a cheap charlie. Depending on the time, and if they are even inclined to offer LT, then 1000 is the going rate for LT for a beach road girl, if it's anywhere near midnight.
I never paid anyone more than 500 for ST in Pattaya unless I was negotiating a premium service (like BBFS or Anal) and every one I went with was young and well above average looking. I had one real hottie start by asking for 800 and not be willing to go below 600, but I didn't take her because her attitude was that her shit didn't stink.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]menses ... menstruation ... on the rag ... period! X marks the spot(s) on your sheet.
You should have cut your losses and taken the blowjob. (IMHO, of course)[/QUOTE]
menses, yes of course, that must be it.
BJ, well, yes, but the blood was everywhere...didn't have the stomach for it at that point. Plus I had blown my wad earlier that evening, so I was not terribly desperate.
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Yes, 500 Short Time is still easily doable
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]
I went to Pattaya with this idea in mind that girls were 500 bath s/t or 1. 000 l/t....
Much to my surprise, I discover quite different rates once there,
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Those are the correct prices, SH - 500 short and 1,000 long time, maybe 600-800 for anal or bareback. I have to admit I have not paid 300 or 400 in a year, but it happened fairly often before that.
There are of course many new guys who have lots of money and know very little who pay more than is necessary, so the price is creeping up in the sense that if girls think you are inexperienced, insecure, or otherwise foolish, they will try to ask for more. And obviously go-gos have always been about double the price of the other options.
For sure you need never pay more than 500 on the Beach or from the vast majority of beer bars. I never pay more than 500 to the girl on Soi Six. I have to admit I have never taken a girl 'long time' as I don't like it, so I can't speak about that, but others consistently tell me it is 1,000 (or in rare cases even less).
However if you were looking for that rarity - the fairly fresh 18-21 year old cutie, then you may have to pay more, or look outside the tourist zones (and speak Thai at least somewhat). Mostly though, service is so bad with that type of girl there's little point.
The first rule is, if you ask a girl how much and she says 'how much you pay?', just walk away. You don't want that girl - she'll be no fun and a bad deal, maybe even trouble. If she says 500, take her. If she says 1,000, walk away. Its really pretty simple.
Basically nowadays if you don't want to pay huge amounts, you have to be ready to be 'rejected' by some prostitutes once in a while - hardly a life shattering experience.
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[QUOTE=Un Le70]
Let's assume for a minute that there was a luxury cruise boat, with go-go bars similar to the Angeles bars, with Philippino/Thai/Chinese girls giving the same kind of service as in Angeles/Pattaya/Dongguan.
1. Would you guys be interested in using such service instead of actually going to those preferred mongering sites (PI/Thailand/China)?
2. Today, when you have your vacation in those sites, how much do you spend on flights, accommodations, and food, not calculating the spending on the ladies (LD, BF, Tips, Gifts, etc.)?
UN LE70[/QUOTE]
While the idea sounds great, I think many people would not be up for it. Two problems (assuming you get over the practical/legal difficulties).
1. Lack of plausible deniability. Guys can at least pretend to go to Thailand for reasons other than PFP, with your boat this would not be the case. If it gets any media attention, even boarding it in a discreet manner may become difficult.
2. My budget would be $100-$150/day, and for that I'd expect 2-3 STs. However, I doubt you'd be able (or actually willing to) compete on price with Thailand or PI. In an enclosed environment, there would be strong pressure to push the prices up. If you fix the prices, they'll be high (and service bad, as girls would compete on numbers). If you don't fix them, there's every incentive to rip off the customer (since they're on the boat for one thing only, have limited choice and can't go anywhere).
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Sexual Healing
I know what you say about the incessant disco noise in Pattaya, go to Hua Hin, a lot less disco, also a lot less girls and bars, but trust me you'll have a good time for sure, and within budget.
Kumbu
I went one stop further than you, I was shagging this girl and I thought that her pussy was extraordinarily moist, it was, with blood. She had started her 'Mens' during copulation, fortunately I managed to cum before dis-engaging.
All my thoughts went to the sign on the back of the door which stated that stained bedsheets incurred a 300 baht charge.
Fortunately Tirac managed to clean up the sheet and mattress, first time that this has ever happened to me.
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Prices End of December to middle of January
Hi
While I was there from 29/12/09 until the 23/01/10 I paid the following
FL beach Road 500ST + 100 (room)
BG 500ST +250BF
BG 1000LT + 300BF
Soi 6 700ST + 300BF/ROOM (6 different girls)
GG 1000LT + 600BF (baby dolls) (got this rate many times)
GG 1000LT + 300BF (after 0130am)(baby dolls)(got this rate many times)
GG 1500LT + 500BF (Mistys)
These figures do not include drinks for myself, Lady drinks, food or any gifts for the ladies.
I am happy with what I paid and the prices were fair.
Just think of trying to have the same fun back at home for these prices I doubt very much that you can.
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[QUOTE=Gus69]
Kumbu
I went one stop further than you, I was shagging this girl and I thought that her pussy was extraordinarily moist, it was, with blood. She had started her 'Mens' during copulation, fortunately I managed to cum before dis-engaging.
All my thoughts went to the sign on the back of the door which stated that stained bedsheets incurred a 300 baht charge.
Fortunately Tirac managed to clean up the sheet and mattress, first time that this has ever happened to me.[/QUOTE]
It can be dissapointing when you discover she is on the rag. But I maybe went even one step further and banged her knowingly. I also pulled her from Babydolls and just put a towel underneath her. The blood got soaked through and I was also charged 300B for the sheets. :)
[QUOTE=Kumbu]
We talk a little, I buy her a drink, and then at the behest of the waitress, I BF her. The BF is expensive here, for whatever reason. On Fri, Sat and Sun, BF=1000B, and on other days it is 700B. This is not right. It was a Sunday night, so they wanted to charge me 1000B. I protested, so they dropped it to 700B. This is still above market rate, but I needed something to take the edge off the 'I lub you' moment that was playing ad nauseum in my head.
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1000B BF at Babydolls on the weekends???? Can someone else confirm this. It's usually 600B for dancers, 700B for showgirls and 300B for them all after 0130.
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[QUOTE=D Cups]Thanks, TL. I'll be in Pattaya Mar 8- 12 and can hardly wait! Curious, why is Misty's 500B more? Are the girls better? Did you see any really busty ones in your travels? (.) (.)[/QUOTE]
Yes there are busty ones some are real and some are fake. there is one in Baby Dolls with really big tits but she is not my thing. I like the small and pert ones with big nipples
The girl from Misty (i think she was #69) had shortish hair and a nice set of tits.
The fee was agreed with her and we just wait straight to the room.
Where as the Baby doll girl we had food and visited other places and we went out with her sister and her work friends.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]The first rule is, if you ask a girl how much and she says 'how much you pay?', just walk away. You don't want that girl - she'll be no fun and a bad deal, maybe even trouble. If she says 500, take her. If she says 1,000, walk away. Its really pretty simple.[/QUOTE]
I've not had any problems with a "how much you pay" girl, so long as she said yes when I offered 500. If she comes back with a higher number, I laugh and go on to the next girl. Clearly, the "how much you pay" gambit is an attempt to make hay off of folks who don't know the pricing structure in Pattaya, but many girls are perfectly fine with the market rate when that initial gambit doesn't result in a sucker. In fact, the best girl I went with on my entire trip last December did the "how much you pay" the first time I saw her. But I ended up having her come back to my place 4 days in a row for 500 ST. And she was a stellar, genuinely affectionate GFE performer.
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If the girl has her periode why not take her anal. Would be a good possibility to convince her to try it. ;)
Regarding priceses in June. I wouldn't say that the prices for girls are lower in June. Nope, they are the same like in January. Hotel priceses are lower that is true.
Are there better selection in June than in January. I didn't had the feeling. I got the impression that in June many girls left Pattaya. The not so good looking once to their villages, the pretty ones to Singapore, HK, Dubai, Europe, etc.
I am not sure about that, of course. But, in November I say way more hotties than in June.
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[QUOTE=Jackson]To use the Forum's Private Message service, both you and the Forum Member you are trying to contact must be either a subscriber or a Senior Member. (...) If you cannot afford $20 dollars to buy a subscription, then perhaps you can convince another forum member to purchase a subscription for you. [/blue][/QUOTE]As I do not want to afford $20 dollars for a subscription (and as most certainly no one would sponsor one for me) I invite the original poster again to post the girls contact details here, so everyone benefits from it and no one needs to overpay.
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Greetings Everyone,
It would appear that Khonjaochoo...
1. Believes that everything on the internet should be free, or...
2. Believes that it's okay for me to pay the forum's server bills so he can enjoy a free website, or...
3. Believes that it's okay that I should work for free to maintain this website, or...
4. Cannot afford the $20 to buy a subscription.
Anyway, if anyone wants to purchase a subscription for Khonjaochoo, all you need to do is enter his username where indicated when making the credit card charge.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Good point
[QUOTE=Khonjaochoo]As I do not want to afford $20 dollars for a subscription (and as most certainly no one would sponsor one for me) I invite the original poster again to post the girls contact details here, so everyone benefits from it and no one needs to overpay.
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Greetings Everyone,
It would appear that Khonjaochoo...
1. Believes that everything on the internet should be free, or...
2. Believes that it's okay for me to pay the forum's server bills so he can enjoy a free website, or...
3. Believes that it's okay that I should work for free to maintain this website, or...
4. Cannot afford the $20 to buy a subscription.
Anyway, if anyone wants to purchase a subscription for Khonjaochoo, all you need to do is enter his username where indicated when making the credit card charge.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?[/url]
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
Without wishing to suck up to Jackson, I think his point is entirely reasonable. This site provides information way in excess of $20 for anyone wishing to dabble in the p4p scene. The scheme of providing gratis senior membership to frequent contributors is very reasonable as probably 90% of the information is generated by say 105 of the members.
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What a Tosser
Khonnobjockey
You are absolutely pathetic...if you dont want to pay the $20 then f#ck off.
Sorry to be so blunt but your post is one of the most pathetic I have ever read on any forum online. The value of the information on this website is absolutely massive and can save you hundreds of dollars and even thousands if you are a serious hobbyist.
Get real or F*CK OFF (apologies to others for this rant and obscenties)
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[QUOTE=Bowerboy]Khonnobjockey
You are absolutely pathetic...if you dont want to pay the $20 then f#ck off.
Sorry to be so blunt but your post is one of the most pathetic I have ever read on any forum online. The value of the information on this website is absolutely massive and can save you hundreds of dollars and even thousands if you are a serious hobbyist.
Get real or F*CK OFF (apologies to others for this rant and obscenties)[/QUOTE]
Khonnobyjockey is either a wind-up or a wanker!
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[QUOTE=Khonjaochoo]As I do not want to afford $20 dollars for a subscription [/QUOTE]
If you can't afford 5.6 Cents per day, why do you consider P4P at all?
Sometimes it's 40, sometimes 100 Dollars a day or easily even more.
Must be well above your budget then, right?
Kuripot.
Better you stay at home.
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
A white guy walks in, well dressed, perhaps in his early 50s, and so still quite spry. He walks past me and sits to my right. The mama san jumps up and attends to him immediately - after all, he ticks all the right boxes: male, white, middle-aged, well-dressed, and arriving after 2am. She points to one girl and yanks her off stage (literally) and throws her at the guy (literally). The girl stumbled, paused to fix her hair, and then smiled at the gent. The gent looked her over, expressionless. He then turned his gaze stageward. The mama san saw this, screamed at the girl next to him to fuck off, and she pointed to the next girl, who happened to be Ms. Sultry. Gentleman looks her over, again expressionless, and minimally nods his head. Mama san screams at Ms. Sultry and yanks her off stage. Ms. Sultry, too good for this, pulls her hand back, and then daintily steps onto a stool, then down onto the floor. As she lands, she looks my way as if to say 'last chance...' I give her a blank look - my decision had already been made, but this gave me a very easy way to proceed. So she sits next to Gentleman.
And this is where it gets interesting. She sits down, and Gentleman immediately climbs ontop of her. I mean, he turned to her, moved right ontop of her, and his tongue came out like a moray eel flitting out of its hole, flicking this way and that. She instantly recoiled, just a little, and then her training kicked in and she froze, letting his tongue do whatever was required. There was not a single word exchanged between these two, and Gentleman was already using his tongue on her.
Truth be told, I was conflicted by the whole thing. One part of me was kind of grossed out by this display, and I realized I had an expression of utter disgust on my face. I looked around, and the staff and other girls were passively watching, as if nothing unusual was happening. But the poor girl was clearly uncomfortable, squirming slightly, leaning back as far as she could. But the large arms of Gentleman were wrapped around her, leaving her in the death embrace for sure. It truly was an Animal Planet moment where the little mollusk is engulfed by the sea slug, powerless and pathetic.
But another part of me was in awe. This dude clearly knew exactly what he was doing. He was testing her out to see if she would recoil, and how much. This, presumably, was a gauge of how pliable she would be once back in the hotel room. A very interesting tactic - place her under the most serious of strain at a late hour and see if she rejects him or not. The girl was borderline, in my opinion, in that she was recoiling, but not rejecting.
I was fascinated...what will happen next? I wish I had some popcorn and a camera. So Gentleman now lifts his head and whispers a few words (inaudible), to which Ms. Sultry nods and agrees, and he says a few more words, and she nods again, and then his head went straight between her breasts and the nuzzling began. Oh. My. God.
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Great reports, all very interesting to read.
With this one, it struck me as a bit creepy, like the guy wasn't so much testing her out for compatibility/pliability as just abusing his power in the situation. From the way you describe it, to me it sounded like he gets his jollies enjoying the feeling of the powerless girl squirming in his clutches, kind of like a cat toying with a mouse its about to kill. I wonder, what would happen in a situation like that in most bars if the girl did protest and escaped from the guy, refused to go along with it.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Great reports, all very interesting to read.
With this one, it struck me as a bit creepy, like the guy wasn't so much testing her out for compatibility/pliability as just abusing his power in the situation. From the way you describe it, to me it sounded like he gets his jollies enjoying the feeling of the powerless girl squirming in his clutches, kind of like a cat toying with a mouse its about to kill. I wonder, what would happen in a situation like that in most bars if the girl did protest and escaped from the guy, refused to go along with it.[/QUOTE]
I agree Wendella - I love Kumbu's reports, great writing and nice details. But this moment made me pause, because that guy just seemed to be a power-hungry creep (indeed, maybe a very dangerous person to the girls), not someone to admire.
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[QUOTE=Crocodilexp]While the idea sounds great, I think many people would not be up for it. Two problems (assuming you get over the practical/legal difficulties).
1. Lack of plausible deniability. Guys can at least pretend to go to Thailand for reasons other than PFP, with your boat this would not be the case. If it gets any media attention, even boarding it in a discreet manner may become difficult.
2. My budget would be $100-$150/day, and for that I'd expect 2-3 STs. However, I doubt you'd be able (or actually willing to) compete on price with Thailand or PI. In an enclosed environment, there would be strong pressure to push the prices up. If you fix the prices, they'll be high (and service bad, as girls would compete on numbers). If you don't fix them, there's every incentive to rip off the customer (since they're on the boat for one thing only, have limited choice and can't go anywhere).[/QUOTE]He could definitely compete on price.
You expect 2 st per day you say. In 10 days that is 20 sessions. For this your budget is around 4000 dollars at least including flight hotel etc. That is a cost of 200 dollars per session or more.
What you won't get is a selection of thousands of girls, mamasans, and a million funny experiences and new impressions.
A luxuary boat would be no different from a large land brothel in nevada or somewhere.
It could nver compete on the total package.
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[QUOTE=DG69]If the girl has her periode why not take her anal. Would be a good possibility to convince her to try it. ;)
Regarding priceses in June. I wouldn't say that the prices for girls are lower in June. Nope, they are the same like in January. Hotel priceses are lower that is true.
Are there better selection in June than in January. I didn't had the feeling. I got the impression that in June many girls left Pattaya. The not so good looking once to their villages, the pretty ones to Singapore, HK, Dubai, Europe, etc.
I am not sure about that, of course. But, in November I say way more hotties than in June.[/QUOTE]
I did, but the girl was small and here butthole to tight ;)
Speaking about low season, I've been there a few times in September. I agree the number of good looking ones are lower than in November, but so are the number of mongers. So competition for the good ones isn't too hard. If I can get 40 stunners I can bang instead of 200, I still haven't got time to do them all. And as you say hotels come cheaper. Though it can be bloody hot and humid I love low season.
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[QUOTE=Stew2]But this moment made me pause, because that guy just seemed to be a power-hungry creep (indeed, maybe a very dangerous person to the girls), not someone to admire.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Wendella]With this one, it struck me as a bit creepy, like the guy wasn't so much testing her out for compatibility/pliability as just abusing his power in the situation. From the way you describe it, to me it sounded like he gets his jollies enjoying the feeling of the powerless girl squirming in his clutches, kind of like a cat toying with a mouse its about to kill. [/QUOTE]As I say, I was creeped out by the guy too. But the sense I got from it was that this guy was known to the mama san, i.e., he had been there before, probably taken a girl from there before, and she came back no worse for it. Presumably she reported back to mama san that the guy is a power hungry jerk, but that when he gets into the bedroom he blows his wad in 10 seconds and then sleeps like a baby. Or something like that. At least I hope that was the case.[QUOTE=Wendella]I wonder, what would happen in a situation like that in most bars if the girl did protest and escaped from the guy, refused to go along with it.[/QUOTE]
I suspect she would be fined. A girl I was talking to said to me that if a customer wants her, 'may pay maay daay', which I slowly figured out means 'you can't NOT go with the customer'. The fine is often excessive - this girl told me that it was 1000B for every incident, i.e., far in excess of the BF. So the girls really are in a tough situation, and I don't think the girl in my report could have resisted or left without serious consequences to her. And as you gentlemen suggest, the guy probably knew that and was taking advantage of it.
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[QUOTE=Tim Bone]I did, but the girl was small and here butthole to tight ;)
Speaking about low season, I've been there a few times in September. I agree the number of good looking ones are lower than in November, but so are the number of mongers. So competition for the good ones isn't too hard. If I can get 40 stunners I can bang instead of 200, I still haven't got time to do them all. And as you say hotels come cheaper. Though it can be bloody hot and humid I love low season.[/QUOTE]Have you tried fingers first? Have you used lube? Did you massaged her butt hole? With that you might make the tightest butthole useable. Kiss her earlap or neck while you insert your dick, that will relax her. Do, not move too fast always be prepared to stop if it's hurt her. Wait until she starts to move, etc.
About June vs September. I believe that September might be better, because girls are already back in Pattaya. I have the feeling they leave p4p for vacation end of April or May. They stay at home in June and July and when money runs out, they come back to work. Just a thought.
But, I believe in logic of the market. If demand (mongers) are low, the offer will be low (girls). If the demand is high there will be more girls. I doubt that a stunner will lower her prices in low season. She will have enough sponsors who send money so she has no need to go under her limit.
Ugly ones earn not much anyway. Maybe one or two ST at beachroad. In low season it might not worth to work at beach road, so they might do another job. In high season there might be higher competition, but I can say that I had better looking girls in high season. I already enjoy to see beautiful girls. Don't need neccessarily take them for a ST/LT. I enjoy to see pretty girls like I enjoy to see other pretty things. In high season there is more fooder for the eyes.
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More info, please
[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]Hi
While I was there from 29/12/09 until the 23/01/10 I paid the following
FL beach Road 500ST + 100 (room)
BG 500ST +250BF
BG 1000LT + 300BF
Soi 6 700ST + 300BF/ROOM (6 different girls)
GG 1000LT + 600BF (baby dolls) (got this rate many times)
GG 1000LT + 300BF (after 0130am)(baby dolls)(got this rate many times)
GG 1500LT + 500BF (Mistys)
These figures do not include drinks for myself, Lady drinks, food or any gifts for the ladies.
I am happy with what I paid and the prices were fair.
Just think of trying to have the same fun back at home for these prices I doubt very much that you can.[/QUOTE]Hi ThaiLearner,
Could you tell me where you did get a room for 100 bart for the fL from beach road.
Like what soi and name of place.
thank you
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]
I think that after all my questions and request for help I owe you something back, to the one of you first-timers like me as well as to veterans who may enjoy some talking about our main topics
I kindly ask to avoid any comment only to the one of you who think they can judge me a cheap charlie. All opinions expressed come from a working class guy trying to get the best from his only hard-earned holiday.
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Hello SH,
See you made good on your promise to me on reporting back from your trip.
Glad some of what we taught you sank in but sad that you were not totally comfortable there, but it's your 1st time there so need to give it a chance to fit in. Pattaya could be a bit intimidating to a newbie.
No need to fear from me if you think of yourselve as a "cheap charlie", trust me you are not ,as you are just trying to play the game smart and get the correct prices--nothing wrong with that at all.
A cheap charlie in my books is someone who knows the rates and try to push it lower to some ridiculous number and if not successful will blame the ladies for not accepting the low offer , and then the drinks ,barfines etc.
And finally, you and I are in the same boat as I too have to work hard for my meager wages just to afford the occasional mongering vacation to get away from reality of work and life at home.
Shark
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[QUOTE=Hotshanehot]Hi ThaiLearner,
Could you tell me where you did get a room for 100 bart for the fL from beach road.
Like what soi and name of place.
thank you[/QUOTE]
I would imagine the answer to be PS Guest House in Soi Yamato. This is the nearest to the beach road, although there are others on 2nd road and beyond.
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Pattaya Taxi
[QUOTE=Kumbu]This is just a description of negotiations with a taxi guy to take me to Pattaya from BKK. I always wondered what this would be like, and so I suppose someone else on this board might benefit slightly from this. My next report is the details of what actually happened in Pattaya.
My plan was ambitious - something I was all too aware of as I crafted it. The plan was to get off work at 3pm, then hightail it over to Ekkamai and catch a bus down to Pattaya in time to meet my gogo girl before she goes to work. So if I arrived at 5:30, that would give us two hours before she had to run off to check in at the bar. Then the evening is free for me to recuperate a little, then hit Roxy for round 2 with Om (girl with the superb ass from a few nights ago). As you can see, timing was crucial here - I had to get to Pattaya in time for my girl to get to me before the gogo bar opened, or else I would be stuck with her the whole night.
But work proved itself reliable and ran late, so I got out at 3:50. No way I'm getting to Pattaya by 5:30 now. In fact, we're looking at a 7pm arrival. So I grabbed a taxi down there. I got into a regular BKK meter taxi and told the guy I wanted to go to Pattaya. He chuckled and said something in Thai. Me no understand, and he no speak English. So he pulls out his calculator and types in 1700. I balk, grab the calculator and type in 1000. He laughs long and heartily, and then counters with 1500. I do a Beavis hee-hee, type in 1200 and I say that HE pays the tolls. He is now confused by tolls, so he calls his friend and gives me the phone. His friend asks me how much I want to pay, and I tell him 1200, but he has to pay the tolls. The guy says no. So I said ok, I will pay the tolls, but that's it. The guys says no, 1500. So I say, ok, tell the taxi guy to take me to the BTS - I will go to Ekkamai and take a bus. All of a sudden, 1200 + tolls seems pretty good, so we agree. But he says that this current taxi guy doesn't know his way to Pattaya, and we need to make a switch. So I tell him to be quick, and 10 minutes later I am in a different taxi with a new driver.
This guy seems older and more experienced. He turns to me and starts a new negotiation - how much you say? He hands me a piece of paper and a pen, so I write down the following: 1200 (tolls = 150). He looks at this, mumbles to himself, and counters with the following on the piece of paper: 1300 total. I was about to protest, saying that 1200+tolls comes out to more than 1300, but I agreed. So that was it - 1300 total payment for door-to-door service. It was a little expensive (I know you can get some taxis to go down there for 1000), but given my intense need to copulate, I just let the 300 baht go.
2 hours later, 6:15pm, I was in Pattaya showered and waiting for my girl. To Be Continued.[/QUOTE]
I arranged to be picked up by Pattaya Taxi. They pick you up at the airport. A guy has your name on a sign at the meeting area near arrival area exit 3 and 4. He takes the bag and we go to the parking garage. He pays the garage bill. He drives at 120 to 140 KPH and pays all of the tolls on the motorway. As we approach Pattaya, he goes around a barrier to take advantage of the highway extension. He then takes the back road that comes out on Sukhumvit near Central road.
I used to fight with taxis and tolls and all of the other BS. Now I just send them an email and they take care of the rest with no negotiation and no BS. [url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url] I always give the driver a few hundred Bt for good service, they have to live too.
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[QUOTE=Gaolei]I used to fight with taxis and tolls and all of the other BS. Now I just send them an email and they take care of the rest with no negotiation and no BS. [url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Same with Mr. T Taxi I think.... they are same price and do the same thing... a lot easier way of dealing with things.
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US Military
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Have the boys left yet?[/QUOTE]
Nope.
I'm afraid they're going to be around for a while making things a bit more difficult for the old guys. :(
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/13937/thousands-of-us-marines-converge-on-pattaya-as-part-of-%e2%80%9ccobra-gold%e2%80%9d/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Hotshanehot]Hi ThaiLearner,
Could you tell me where you did get a room for 100 bart for the fL from beach road.
Like what soi and name of place.
thank you[/QUOTE]
Sorry don't know the name of the place it is on the left hand side from beach road near the beach road end on soi 13/1 or soi Yamato.
They are just short time rooms and I wouldn't want to stay there.
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Penultimate Report
I am now back in the USA having to listen to morons like Mitt Romney and Dick Cheney. Why do I live here again? Below is my second to last report before I sign off. I need to re-focus my mind on my real life, so that I can make some money, earn some vacation time and get back to LOS and the important things that reside there.
Speaking of LOS, I think we should drop that acronym and refer to it instead as LOL. Land of Legs.
So I returned to Pattaya (this time getting down there by bus) and I stayed at the Nova Platinum. This place is great for its location (walking distance to walking street), and its price, but there are some definite drawbacks. First, the new building is a shithole. I mean, it is new, but it really sucks. The elevator in particular is very annoying indeed. It wont close - you press the 'door close' button, the door closes half way, then opens up again. You repeat this 4-5 times until it finally closes. This is compounded by the fact that the hotel is frequented by brain-dead morons who press both the Up and Down button when they want to go down. Their theory, I presume, is that when you press two buttons, the elevator will come twice as quickly. As a result, the elevator stops at every floor on the way up and every floor on the way down, and at each stop, the door does its stupid, stupid me-no-close game.
Second, if you get pissed off with the new building (as I did) and request a room in the old building, DEMAND a room on a lower floor. Last week I got a room on the top floor and there was no water all night. Imagine having just had three hours of sex, smothered in pussy juice, her covered in your ejaculate, the taste of gogo girl butt hole in your mouth...and there is no water...at all. They claimed this was a one-time thing, but I know it wasn't - I remember something like this the last time I stayed here six months ago. Anyway, I was eventually moved to the third floor which is perfectly fine.
This time, I insisted on a 3rd floor room, which they hummed and hawed about, but finally gave it up. I showered, ran over to Marine seafood and had some noodles, and then got cracking on my assignment for the night. Tonight I was going to attempt the impossible, at least for the one-pop king that is Kumbu. My plan (dare I be so bold?) was to hit a gogo girl for ST, and then go back for another girl for LT. I had tried this the other night, but it ended in failure with a menses incident, so I was hoping to strike the double tonight. I couldn't believe my mind was hatching such a devious plot, which undoubtedly would lead to some serious trauma for my body. Ah yes, the old mind-body rivalry: the mind always wants more than the body can deliver, but not tonight! My body has been coddled for nigh 40 years, it's time for it to pay its dues.
First stop: Happy Agogo. Dropped three drinks while watching the girls - not a single one totally did it for me. The usual suspects were there: #46, #61, #71, #77 all had nice asses, but for whatever reason, I just didn't feel the groove.
One of the problems was the feet-hands thing. When I get into a bar, I first try to find a spot that suits my style. I avoid sitting on a stool at the stage, as I feel that gives me too much exposure. So I perch myself in the back where I can see everything.
The first thing I look for are pretty legs. That usually narrows the list of girls to 7-10. Next, skinny asses are excluded, leaving 0-3 girls. On the basis of this, I picked the aforementioned list of girls. I then usually try to pick a target on the basis of face, general overall proportions, perceived attitude, and some other, unusual criteria.
I've taken to looking at their feet and fingers for clues as to their breeding and suitability. The chewed finger-nails is a definite no-no (ruled out #77). I also don't care for black nail polish - I fear it is hiding something (#61 is dropped from the list). I look for well-tended fingernails, preferably slightly grown out; long slender fingers are preferred to short stubs; and if I can discern it, I look for how pudgy the palm is. I found, albeit in my entirely unscientific way, that pudgy palms means hidden reserves of fat in unwanted places. I was too far away from the stage to see these things, so I turned my attention south.
I look at their toes: do they sit snugly into the shoe, or do they spill out in all directions, belying their farm-girl roots (#61)? It's incredible how common that is. Are the toes well-tended? I shy away from the bulbous toes, only for aesthetic reasons (I don't have any theories about hidden dangers of bulbous toes). Anyway, that left #46. I had been visiting Happy Agogo almost nightly for the last week, and I can say that #46 was anything but. Happy, that is. She had her regular scowl on her face that said nothing except fuck off. So I fucked off.
Next was Babydolls, where Nam #55 (X-men) from the other night was waiting in prey for me. But when I walked in, I spotted a superb ass and leg set, #54. She had a cute face too with a superb, happy smile. We locked eye gaze as soon as I sat down, and she froze entirely - stopped dancing completely. She looked at me and I at her, and after a few moments, she slowly started to move backwards, as if she was coming to sit next to me. But just then, #55 comes out of no where with a big grin on her little face and plunks herself down next to me. #54 sees this and her face sinks, her shoulders slouch and she turns away. Crap.
Anyway, I buy #55 a drink, just to be courteous, we small talk a while, and then I tell her that I will not BF her today, ok? She agreed - without ever speaking a word about it, we both remembered the X-men incident from the other night and agreed to let things sit.
The dance shift ended and she goes dancing, to my relief. Then all hell breaks loose. A group of young (obviously) American (obviously) military guys storm into the place, and suddenly the place is a zoo - screaming everywhere, ping pong balls flying in every direction, lady drinks being gulped at a feverish pace. At one point, this guy sheds all his clothing (I mean, bare nekkid) and jumps into the jacuzzi with the two girls and starts whacking them with the neoprene hose, spanking their booties, etc. His little dingaling was flapping around like a little shoelace hanging from porch roof – it was kid of cute actually. He was obviously drunk coz he had neither an ounce of a boner going nor an ounce of shame about himself. Strange, but the girls encouraged him, and the staff watched passively as if they had seen this movie many times before. He must have dropped a serious tip for them to allow that.
Anyway, the place is so raucous, I decide I had better get cracking. So I tell mama san that it is time to feed the beast, and that she should bring #54 to The Kumbu, which she promptly does.
Name: Nan (rhymes with pan)...age 22...from Isaan...lady drink arrives...been in Pattaya 1 year....worked at this bar 4 months...can do ST no problem...ok, BF and off to change.
Paid the expensive 700B BF, walked out with a tasty little treat on my arm. She has a delightful high pitched voice, large soft eyes, and was wearing a striped white and blue tank top with a jean mini skirt. Oh who am I kidding, she had legs and an ass that would stop a tank in its tracks, that's why she was walking back to my hotel with me.
So we get into the hotel and some small talk ensues. As she talks I look at her face. While at the club, it had been a remarkably pretty face - her eyes seemed very seductive while fun at the same time. Her smile was one of care-free frivolity, and that is always a beautiful thing to see in anyone, especially a gogo girl you wish to bone. But sitting in my room there, all I saw was a deep, enduring melancholy. She was subdued, a little quiet, perhaps a little scared, I don't know. She looked down at her hands while we talked, occasionally looking up with her now-sad eyes. Large as they were, all I saw in them was what I wished not to see. Nonetheless, she was definitely *not* a downer - she giggled and chatted, but all that seemed to be an attempt to hide the underlying sadness that could not be hidden.
The sex that came next was physically good, albeit tinged with the knowledge of what I had just seen. A reasonable BBBJ, sex in several positions, lots of groping of her ass and legs, you know, the usual routine. Her ass was indeed superb, her breasts were far more substantial (and firm) than I had anticipated – a definite and unexpected bonus. And I enjoyed playing with her legs for a good half hour – all very, very pleasant things. When she left with 1500B in her purse, she did not look back, nor did I expect her to. It was a deal that had been expertly consummated. An odd emptiness filled Kumbu, not particularly discomforting, nor distressing, but just odd.
Exhausted, I had to psych myself up for the next round. Remember, my plan was to do the double-dip this fine night, and I could not let the damned emotions of the girl get in the way. The double dip is *SO* not Kumbu's style, but what the hell, I had to give it a shot. So I thought to myself who I would like to bag tonight. One person that was definitely not on the list was the girl from the other night who said 'I lub you.' That needed to end. Instead, I decided to hit a couple of gogo bars to get the juices flowing again, and then go over to Roxy to pick up Om. I had sent her a text earlier saying I would come over, so I was hoping she would wait for me.
So I did Airport (bust), then Baccara (nothing there), then Happy again (nice bum jiggling, but that's it), and then on to Roxy. I was hoping Om had waited for me...and wait she did. I got there just after midnight, and all the girls whooed when I got in. They had all been discussing whether this guy would turn up or not. Apparently there was a little gogo girl pool going on and the odds were 3-1 that I would not turn up. So some girls whooed in joy when I got there, but most were a little pissed off coz they just lost cash on me. Plus the drama had been compounded by the fact that a Japanese guy had tried to BF Om before I got there, and she had politely said no. The Mama San gave her hell for this, saying that if Kumbu does not materialize, she pays the BF out of her own pocket, plus 1000B fine for saying no. Wow. Anyway, because I did turn up, all was forgiven, and I was now suddenly the treat of the place. They all thought I was such a stand-up guy for keeping my word. Says a lot about us as a group, doesn't it? We will say anything to anyone for any reason.
Slight change in topic, but it will connect back to my primary report. Have you ever been in a gogo bar and you see a guy walk in with another pretty girl? I always wondered what that was about. Is he trying to show her what a good gogo girl looks like? Is he trying to get her to pick a girl for a threesome? Or what? Well, tonight I found out at least one reason for that. After I paid the BF and we were walking out, Om tells me she wants to go to Super Girl and Super Baby to see the places. I ask why, and she tells me that she wants to move to one of those places next month. So she wants to scout them out, and because she works during the hours that the other places are open, it is really hard for her to get over there and check them out.
I tell her that I cannot go to Supergirl because I BFed a girl from there, and if she sees me with another girl, she will flip out. Om pretends to be upset over this, but understands, and so we go to Superbaby. The place was kind of dead at that hour (six mediocre girls, 12 customers, not much happening), but it was still nice to share a drink with Om in an unusual environment. Twenty minutes, in as I was paying, the place filled up in the most bizarre manner - a troupe of Chinese tourists walked in - maybe 60-70 of them, and packed the place from top to bottom. They were regular Chinese tourists, dressed in jeans and wearing golf hats carrying their humungous fanny packs (you know, the ones the size of a backpack, except it is stuck to the hip!). They were of all ages - young teens all the way up to grandmothers. They all sat down, pulled out their packed dinners and started eating right there in the gogo bar. The bar was cool with this because every one of them ordered a drink. Very strange sight indeed.
Next, back to hotel and the regular four hours of heavy petting, groping, kissing, BBBJ (not to cum), HJ (not to cum), and covered sex. I was surprisingly aroused, given my earlier ejaculation, so maybe I am not the one-shot wonder I thought I was. Om, on the other hand, showed absolutely no variation from her previous nights' routine - she lay there and did relatively little, offered a timid BJ, and basically looked pretty the whole time. I was beginning to tire of her. Pretty as she was, beautiful as that ass may be, I really wanted some umph in her, which she seemed not to have. So we finished, showered and slept.
In the morning, I woke up before she did as I needed to get back to BKK for an afternoon meeting. When I awoke, I looked over at her sleeping face, lying peacefully with her head on the pillow. As I looked at her profile, I was surprised by how much she resembled my mother. Oh shit. Are you kidding me, Kumbu? Another issue to deal with now.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]I am now back in the USA having to listen to morons like Mitt Romney and Dick Cheney. Why do I live here again? Below is my second to last report before I sign off. I need to re-focus my mind on my real life, so that I can make some money, earn some vacation time and get back to LOS and the important things that reside there.
Speaking of LOS, I think we should drop that acronym and refer to it instead as LOL. Land of Legs.
So I returned to Pattaya (this time getting down there by bus) and I stayed at the Nova Platinum. This place is great for its location (walking distance to walking street), and its price, but there are some definite drawbacks. First, the new building is a shithole. I mean, it is new, but it really sucks. The elevator in particular is very annoying indeed. It wont close - you press the 'door close' button, the door closes half way, then opens up again. You repeat this 4-5 times until it finally closes. This is compounded by the fact that the hotel is frequented by brain-dead morons who press both the Up and Down button when they want to go down. Their theory, I presume, is that when you press two buttons, the elevator will come twice as quickly. As a result, the elevator stops at every floor on the way up and every floor on the way down, and at each stop, the door does its stupid, stupid me-no-close game.
Second, if you get pissed off with the new building (as I did) and request a room in the old building, DEMAND a room on a lower floor. Last week I got a room on the top floor and there was no water all night. Imagine having just had three hours of sex, smothered in pussy juice, her covered in your ejaculate, the taste of gogo girl butt hole in your mouth...and there is no water...at all. They claimed this was a one-time thing, but I know it wasn't - I remember something like this the last time I stayed here six months ago. Anyway, I was eventually moved to the third floor which is perfectly fine.
This time, I insisted on a 3rd floor room, which they hummed and hawed about, but finally gave it up. I showered, ran over to Marine seafood and had some noodles, and then got cracking on my assignment for the night. Tonight I was going to attempt the impossible, at least for the one-pop king that is Kumbu. My plan (dare I be so bold?) was to hit a gogo girl for ST, and then go back for another girl for LT. I had tried this the other night, but it ended in failure with a menses incident, so I was hoping to strike the double tonight. I couldn't believe my mind was hatching such a devious plot, which undoubtedly would lead to some serious trauma for my body. Ah yes, the old mind-body rivalry: the mind always wants more than the body can deliver, but not tonight! My body has been coddled for nigh 40 years, it's time for it to pay its dues.
First stop: Happy Agogo. Dropped three drinks while watching the girls - not a single one totally did it for me. The usual suspects were there: #46, #61, #71, #77 all had nice asses, but for whatever reason, I just didn't feel the groove.
One of the problems was the feet-hands thing. When I get into a bar, I first try to find a spot that suits my style. I avoid sitting on a stool at the stage, as I feel that gives me too much exposure. So I perch myself in the back where I can see everything.
The first thing I look for are pretty legs. That usually narrows the list of girls to 7-10. Next, skinny asses are excluded, leaving 0-3 girls. On the basis of this, I picked the aforementioned list of girls. I then usually try to pick a target on the basis of face, general overall proportions, perceived attitude, and some other, unusual criteria.
I've taken to looking at their feet and fingers for clues as to their breeding and suitability. The chewed finger-nails is a definite no-no (ruled out #77). I also don't care for black nail polish - I fear it is hiding something (#61 is dropped from the list). I look for well-tended fingernails, preferably slightly grown out; long slender fingers are preferred to short stubs; and if I can discern it, I look for how pudgy the palm is. I found, albeit in my entirely unscientific way, that pudgy palms means hidden reserves of fat in unwanted places. I was too far away from the stage to see these things, so I turned my attention south.
I look at their toes: do they sit snugly into the shoe, or do they spill out in all directions, belying their farm-girl roots (#61)? It's incredible how common that is. Are the toes well-tended? I shy away from the bulbous toes, only for aesthetic reasons (I don't have any theories about hidden dangers of bulbous toes). Anyway, that left #46. I had been visiting Happy Agogo almost nightly for the last week, and I can say that #46 was anything but. Happy, that is. She had her regular scowl on her face that said nothing except fuck off. So I fucked off.
Next was Babydolls, where Nam #55 (X-men) from the other night was waiting in prey for me. But when I walked in, I spotted a superb ass and leg set, #54. She had a cute face too with a superb, happy smile. We locked eye gaze as soon as I sat down, and she froze entirely - stopped dancing completely. She looked at me and I at her, and after a few moments, she slowly started to move backwards, as if she was coming to sit next to me. But just then, #55 comes out of no where with a big grin on her little face and plunks herself down next to me. #54 sees this and her face sinks, her shoulders slouch and she turns away. Crap.
Anyway, I buy #55 a drink, just to be courteous, we small talk a while, and then I tell her that I will not BF her today, ok? She agreed - without ever speaking a word about it, we both remembered the X-men incident from the other night and agreed to let things sit.
The dance shift ended and she goes dancing, to my relief. Then all hell breaks loose. A group of young (obviously) American (obviously) military guys storm into the place, and suddenly the place is a zoo - screaming everywhere, ping pong balls flying in every direction, lady drinks being gulped at a feverish pace. At one point, this guy sheds all his clothing (I mean, bare nekkid) and jumps into the jacuzzi with the two girls and starts whacking them with the neoprene hose, spanking their booties, etc. His little dingaling was flapping around like a little shoelace hanging from porch roof – it was kid of cute actually. He was obviously drunk coz he had neither an ounce of a boner going nor an ounce of shame about himself. Strange, but the girls encouraged him, and the staff watched passively as if they had seen this movie many times before. He must have dropped a serious tip for them to allow that.
Anyway, the place is so raucous, I decide I had better get cracking. So I tell mama san that it is time to feed the beast, and that she should bring #54 to The Kumbu, which she promptly does.
Name: Nan (rhymes with pan)...age 22...from Isaan...lady drink arrives...been in Pattaya 1 year....worked at this bar 4 months...can do ST no problem...ok, BF and off to change.
Paid the expensive 700B BF, walked out with a tasty little treat on my arm. She has a delightful high pitched voice, large soft eyes, and was wearing a striped white and blue tank top with a jean mini skirt. Oh who am I kidding, she had legs and an ass that would stop a tank in its tracks, that's why she was walking back to my hotel with me.
So we get into the hotel and some small talk ensues. As she talks I look at her face. While at the club, it had been a remarkably pretty face - her eyes seemed very seductive while fun at the same time. Her smile was one of care-free frivolity, and that is always a beautiful thing to see in anyone, especially a gogo girl you wish to bone. But sitting in my room there, all I saw was a deep, enduring melancholy. She was subdued, a little quiet, perhaps a little scared, I don't know. She looked down at her hands while we talked, occasionally looking up with her now-sad eyes. Large as they were, all I saw in them was what I wished not to see. Nonetheless, she was definitely *not* a downer - she giggled and chatted, but all that seemed to be an attempt to hide the underlying sadness that could not be hidden.
The sex that came next was physically good, albeit tinged with the knowledge of what I had just seen. A reasonable BBBJ, sex in several positions, lots of groping of her ass and legs, you know, the usual routine. Her ass was indeed superb, her breasts were far more substantial (and firm) than I had anticipated – a definite and unexpected bonus. And I enjoyed playing with her legs for a good half hour – all very, very pleasant things. When she left with 1500B in her purse, she did not look back, nor did I expect her to. It was a deal that had been expertly consummated. An odd emptiness filled Kumbu, not particularly discomforting, nor distressing, but just odd.
Exhausted, I had to psych myself up for the next round. Remember, my plan was to do the double-dip this fine night, and I could not let the damned emotions of the girl get in the way. The double dip is *SO* not Kumbu's style, but what the hell, I had to give it a shot. So I thought to myself who I would like to bag tonight. One person that was definitely not on the list was the girl from the other night who said 'I lub you.' That needed to end. Instead, I decided to hit a couple of gogo bars to get the juices flowing again, and then go over to Roxy to pick up Om. I had sent her a text earlier saying I would come over, so I was hoping she would wait for me.
So I did Airport (bust), then Baccara (nothing there), then Happy again (nice bum jiggling, but that's it), and then on to Roxy. I was hoping Om had waited for me...and wait she did. I got there just after midnight, and all the girls whooed when I got in. They had all been discussing whether this guy would turn up or not. Apparently there was a little gogo girl pool going on and the odds were 3-1 that I would not turn up. So some girls whooed in joy when I got there, but most were a little pissed off coz they just lost cash on me. Plus the drama had been compounded by the fact that a Japanese guy had tried to BF Om before I got there, and she had politely said no. The Mama San gave her hell for this, saying that if Kumbu does not materialize, she pays the BF out of her own pocket, plus 1000B fine for saying no. Wow. Anyway, because I did turn up, all was forgiven, and I was now suddenly the treat of the place. They all thought I was such a stand-up guy for keeping my word. Says a lot about us as a group, doesn't it? We will say anything to anyone for any reason.
Slight change in topic, but it will connect back to my primary report. Have you ever been in a gogo bar and you see a guy walk in with another pretty girl? I always wondered what that was about. Is he trying to show her what a good gogo girl looks like? Is he trying to get her to pick a girl for a threesome? Or what? Well, tonight I found out at least one reason for that. After I paid the BF and we were walking out, Om tells me she wants to go to Super Girl and Super Baby to see the places. I ask why, and she tells me that she wants to move to one of those places next month. So she wants to scout them out, and because she works during the hours that the other places are open, it is really hard for her to get over there and check them out.
I tell her that I cannot go to Supergirl because I BFed a girl from there, and if she sees me with another girl, she will flip out. Om pretends to be upset over this, but understands, and so we go to Superbaby. The place was kind of dead at that hour (six mediocre girls, 12 customers, not much happening), but it was still nice to share a drink with Om in an unusual environment. Twenty minutes, in as I was paying, the place filled up in the most bizarre manner - a troupe of Chinese tourists walked in - maybe 60-70 of them, and packed the place from top to bottom. They were regular Chinese tourists, dressed in jeans and wearing golf hats carrying their humungous fanny packs (you know, the ones the size of a backpack, except it is stuck to the hip!). They were of all ages - young teens all the way up to grandmothers. They all sat down, pulled out their packed dinners and started eating right there in the gogo bar. The bar was cool with this because every one of them ordered a drink. Very strange sight indeed.
Next, back to hotel and the regular four hours of heavy petting, groping, kissing, BBBJ (not to cum), HJ (not to cum), and covered sex. I was surprisingly aroused, given my earlier ejaculation, so maybe I am not the one-shot wonder I thought I was. Om, on the other hand, showed absolutely no variation from her previous nights' routine - she lay there and did relatively little, offered a timid BJ, and basically looked pretty the whole time. I was beginning to tire of her. Pretty as she was, beautiful as that ass may be, I really wanted some umph in her, which she seemed not to have. So we finished, showered and slept.
In the morning, I woke up before she did as I needed to get back to BKK for an afternoon meeting. When I awoke, I looked over at her sleeping face, lying peacefully with her head on the pillow. As I looked at her profile, I was surprised by how much she resembled my mother. Oh shit. Are you kidding me, Kumbu? Another issue to deal with now.[/QUOTE]I have been thinking about this before and after reading this I am again: has anyone ever written a book of real life stories of mongering and life in thailand? And I don't mean the beach but more like kumbus report in book form? I think it would sell well - especially if the names and places were real. Would be very interesting read.
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Kumba
Hi
Good Tr thanks
On my last trip I have BF girl from Baby Doll and she wanted to go to other go gos to look as she wanted to have a night out. She would even speak to the other girls and buy them a drink even though she didn't want to go with them.
I think it is just some where different to go instead of having to work 7 days a week
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[QUOTE=Sharka]Hello SH,
See you made good on your promise to me on reporting back from your trip.
Glad some of what we taught you sank in but sad that you were not totally comfortable there, but it's your 1st time there so need to give it a chance to fit in. Pattaya could be a bit intimidating to a newbie.
Shark[/QUOTE]Well, always keep my promise. Thank for your sympathy.
As I said, I am conscious Pattaya is still best bet around, and it was ok, just did not make me holler, compared to my other experiences in fkk in Germany.
Of course, it is impossible to make a real confront in terms of babes (some stunners from east europe there, tiny short babes with stuffed bras here), rate (fkk about 50 euros but s/t only, while Pattaya s/t is 11-22 euros) and above all costs (train ticket vs plane ticket, entrance fees vs barfine, etc), BUT what let me down in Pattaya was poor service that I got from many babes (most of them no french kiss, no cum in mouth or face, no anal).
I was under the impressrion that you could do anything you want with them before going but I found some shy ones, who seemed not properly trained to what they were at and this could add some spice to the experience in a way, except that they are skilled enough to draw money from your pocket then.
So, sometimes I missed a good old Polish or Czech prostitute giving me a deep french kiss and a master BBBJ, as they do in fkk. Problem there is that c. I. M. Is an extra, anal is an extra, so the bill grows fat in the end if you want to rock, but then again in Pattaya too not all girls give those services. Yeah, you can't always get what you want, especially if you don't carry stacks of cash.
So we are back to the conclusion that maybe still better Pattaya because at least cheaper. I need to try some go-go pros (which I did not this time because pussy was seemingly everywhere and did not feel like I NEEDED to go there) and then I will tell you my final verdict. Who knows when.
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Buses
I usually get the Ekamai bus to and from Pattaya. This year I'll likely be making that trip twice. Something I never remember to find out before it's too late and I'm already about to leave is the best place to catch a baht bus to the Pattaya bus station? Is there a spot where there are regular buses going that way, and a standard fare?
It's a small thing, but I don't mind a short walk and a few minutes wait to save a hundred baht, and it annoys me that I end up paying maybe 150 or 200 baht just to get to the bus station, which is more than the BKK/Pattaya bus journey itself. Personally, one motorcycle taxi journey in my lifetime was enough for me, so I always go by baht bus.
By the way, does anybody know if there's a difference between the two counters at Ekamai that have "Pattaya" written above them? There's one facing outwards on the left hand side as you go in, and another on the right that faces inwards to the left. I've always taken the one on the right.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
My plan (dare I be so bold?) was to hit a gogo girl for ST, and then go back for another girl for LT. [/QUOTE]
Yet another really interesting post, thanks for that one.
Yes, the plan.... I can relate. Actually my very first experience in Thailand was exactly that, tho not planned. First I "popped my cherry" (first ever P4P experience) at a massage place (at a hotel in Chiang Mai) and later ran into some Norwegian guy at a bar, hung out with him the rest of the night and ended up getting picked up by the girl who had attached herself to HIM when he went away to go tell his friend where we were. Thats not as bad as it sounds -- he left for over half an hour and by the time he got back she'd switched allegiances. I was resistant at first but she was pretty good at what she did, and me pretty new, so... Oh and he just got a laugh out of it when he got back. I'll never forget the really corny line he told me there at that girly bar near Tha Pae gate, with a total straight face "Over here, we are like kings."
Anyway... when you mentioned being a ST man -- in practice I am. It's not necessarily what I want to be. Last week for example I was in a bar (in Phnom Penh) and spotted a girl who was just delicious. My feeling was that I really wanted long time with her. And I knew how it'd go. A girl that hot, what happens is that I will start to get into it and then blow my load too fast, so the experience is really short, and if it's a ST the whole thing can be done in less than half an hour. So I'm not really getting a very full experience. Well thats what happened with this one, pretty much. Before the deed, she was pretty keen on only doing ST, but after talking a bit to her realized she actually would be flexible, it was only gonna take sweetening the pot a bit to make it happen. And then we got it going, and it was nice, and sure enough I came pretty damn fast. Now my strong feeling earlier with this one was that I'd want to have her long time and really enjoy her thoroughly. But after doing the deed, a very different feeling comes over me, the Garbo feeling. I vont to be alone. So she hangs out and watches music videos awhile, and after a half hour of that she asks if she can go. And I say, sure I'm tired, and feel relieved even. Didn't feel like having another go, and was pretty sure it'd be awhile again before I would.
In a nutshell, this is the problem. There's a part of me that wants to do long times, and especially with girls like this. But then there's this other part of me, and it might be a physical or chemical thing, that just always has this mood when the deed is done -- the mood to just want to be alone and get the girl out of there. But I know for sure that it's those extra go's around (middle of the night, or the morning after) that are often the best. But getting to that morning after gets harder and harder. The Garbo effect always seems to win out, and now I wonder if that's just how I am now, if I'm a total ST guy now.
There must be others out there with these kinds of conflicted urges. I wonder how you deal with them.
I was on a good dose of Apcalis that night too, so that definitely wasn't the problem.
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I feel the same way. If I was still in my 20's, I'm sure going two or three rounds in an 8 hour time span would be no big deal, but I"m far from my 20's now.
I tend to select the hot women that still have a pleasing personality, a nice smile, and a nice little laugh. But after I get them back. Start the kissing, fondling, etc. It only takes 10 to 15 minutes to get to the point where, if I like them, I'm excited and Junior is ready to cum. After taht happens, I'm tired, it's not like there's an emotional connection. Because I don't know the girl at all. So it's "well, you're done. Go to sleep".
So, I think especially as we get older it's a natural thing and unless you want to get the know the girl and keep her around the next day or two or more. It's best (at least for me it's best) to just do the short time and then get some peaceful rest. Just get her number and you can always see her again.
Just my 10 baht.
[QUOTE=Wendella]Yet another really interesting post, thanks for that one.
Yes, the plan.... I can relate. Actually my very first experience in Thailand was exactly that, tho not planned. First I "popped my cherry" (first ever P4P experience) at a massage place (at a hotel in Chiang Mai) and later ran into some Norwegian guy at a bar, hung out with him the rest of the night and ended up getting picked up by the girl who had attached herself to HIM when he went away to go tell his friend where we were. Thats not as bad as it sounds -- he left for over half an hour and by the time he got back she'd switched allegiances. I was resistant at first but she was pretty good at what she did, and me pretty new, so... Oh and he just got a laugh out of it when he got back. I'll never forget the really corny line he told me there at that girly bar near Tha Pae gate, with a total straight face "Over here, we are like kings."
Anyway... when you mentioned being a ST man -- in practice I am. It's not necessarily what I want to be. Last week for example I was in a bar (in Phnom Penh) and spotted a girl who was just delicious. My feeling was that I really wanted long time with her. And I knew how it'd go. A girl that hot, what happens is that I will start to get into it and then blow my load too fast, so the experience is really short, and if it's a ST the whole thing can be done in less than half an hour. So I'm not really getting a very full experience. Well thats what happened with this one, pretty much. Before the deed, she was pretty keen on only doing ST, but after talking a bit to her realized she actually would be flexible, it was only gonna take sweetening the pot a bit to make it happen. And then we got it going, and it was nice, and sure enough I came pretty damn fast. Now my strong feeling earlier with this one was that I'd want to have her long time and really enjoy her thoroughly. But after doing the deed, a very different feeling comes over me, the Garbo feeling. I vont to be alone. So she hangs out and watches music videos awhile, and after a half hour of that she asks if she can go. And I say, sure I'm tired, and feel relieved even. Didn't feel like having another go, and was pretty sure it'd be awhile again before I would.
In a nutshell, this is the problem. There's a part of me that wants to do long times, and especially with girls like this. But then there's this other part of me, and it might be a physical or chemical thing, that just always has this mood when the deed is done -- the mood to just want to be alone and get the girl out of there. But I know for sure that it's those extra go's around (middle of the night, or the morning after) that are often the best. But getting to that morning after gets harder and harder. The Garbo effect always seems to win out, and now I wonder if that's just how I am now, if I'm a total ST guy now.
There must be others out there with these kinds of conflicted urges. I wonder how you deal with them.
I was on a good dose of Apcalis that night too, so that definitely wasn't the problem.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Redfield10]I feel the same way. If I was still in my 20's, I'm sure going two or three rounds in an 8 hour time span would be no big deal, but I"m far from my 20's now. [/QUOTE]
Me too. When I was younger I would never dream of taking a girl ST. It had to be LT or nothing and LT would often mean days or even weeks, if I really liked her. Now, unless I really connect with a girl, ST is de rigeur, and I seldom ask a girl to spend the night. As you say, if she is a keeper, you can always get her CP No and see her the next day.
Also, unlike when I was a sprog, these days I prefer caffeine over sex in the morning so unless she can make a mean latte, I don’t want her around when I wake up;).
Funny how a person changes as they age.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Funny how a person changes as they age.[/QUOTE]
Please don't let me grow old !!!!
Nothing is finer after a night of sex then the roll her over and have bouts of 2 am and 4 am sex... then having a nice cup of coffee or tea while getting a BBBJ just starts my day... Followed by watching them naked ironing my shirts and a quick last parting shot before going off to work...
Now having the same girl around all the time is a pain in the arse... but building a stable that you train and educate to your satisfaction is always enjoyable...
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
Nothing is finer after a night of sex then the roll her over and have bouts of 2 am and 4 am sex... then having a nice cup of coffee or tea while getting a BBBJ just starts my day... Followed by watching them naked ironing my shirts and a quick last parting shot before going off to work...
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So it sounds like the solution to my problem is... [i]buying an ironing board?[/i] ;)
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[QUOTE=Wendella]So it sounds like the solution to my problem is... [i]buying an ironing board?[/i] ;)[/QUOTE]
Man you should try it, the most I let my girls wear in the apt or the hotel when I travel are panties (when they do not have other accessories on). Just watching them serving me drinks and ironing clothes and such works better then any enhancers for me. Afternoon watching them prance around.... shit... game on baby....
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Long time lurker here. Just had to make my first post on this site a huge thank you to Kumbu and all his superbly detailed reports. Not only are they fun and entertaining, but they're also very informative.
I've only had one trip to Thailand and at the time I stuck entirely to MPs. Was too intimidated by the go-go bars to give them a try. As a quiet, shy, non-confrontational guy, I was paranoid that I would just end up cornered by some girl I wasn't interested in and be too timid to blow her off. Felt much more comfortable with fishbowls where I could choose whoever I wanted.
Since I avoided go-gos, I blew off Nana and Pattaya wasn't even in consideration. After reading Kumbu's reports and getting a much better feel for what the go-gos are like, I'm very interested in trying them out next time I go over there.
So thanks, Kumbu, for some of the best posts I've read on this site!
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Please don't let me grow old!
Nothing is finer after a night of sex then the roll her over and have bouts of 2 am and 4 am sex. Then having a nice cup of coffee or tea while getting a BBBJ just starts my day. Followed by watching them naked ironing my shirts and a quick last parting shot before going off to work.
Now having the same girl around all the time is a pain in the arse. But building a stable that you train and educate to your satisfaction is always enjoyable.[/QUOTE]That's awesome for sure! But it's not every BG that will give you a BBBJ when you wake up.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Me too. When I was younger I would never dream of taking a girl ST. It had to be LT or nothing and LT would often mean days or even weeks, if I really liked her. Now, unless I really connect with a girl, ST is de rigeur, and I seldom ask a girl to spend the night. As you say, if she is a keeper, you can always get her CP No and see her the next day.
Also, unlike when I was a sprog, these days I prefer caffeine over sex in the morning so unless she can make a mean latte, I don't want her around when I wake up.
Funny how a person changes as they age.[/QUOTE]I agree. I used to be only LT until the beginning of this year. Now I prefer ST because my personal time is more valuable to me at this point.
By doing ST (unless you really connect) saves you money, eliminates a bad nights sleep, you avoid psychos that don't want to leave, and you don't wake up going "WTF did I do! " if you're next to a fugly you thought was a stunner. I like to preserve the memories and eat falang food in the morning instead of waking up to a fully cooked thai dinner for breakfast.
Instead of banging a chick the evening, then banging the same on the morning, I'd rather pay ST both times and experience more.
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Enjoy while you want to. LOL.
It's not that the change is bad; it's just "different. " LOL.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Please don't let me grow old!
Nothing is finer after a night of sex then the roll her over and have bouts of 2 am and 4 am sex. Then having a nice cup of coffee or tea while getting a BBBJ just starts my day. Followed by watching them naked ironing my shirts and a quick last parting shot before going off to work.
Now having the same girl around all the time is a pain in the arse. But building a stable that you train and educate to your satisfaction is always enjoyable.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=The Scout]That's awesome for sure! But it's not every BG that will give you a BBBJ when you wake up.[/QUOTE]
Agree but like I said, get a stable and train them.... Mongering takes work, time, effort and investment... it rarely falls into your lap perfectly...
[QUOTE=The Scout]By doing ST (unless you really connect) saves you money,[/QUOTE]
Everyone says this but HOW? Do the math for me please... I take a girl long time and she knows she's going to have sex multiple times. I never take a girl who thinks they are going to have sex 2 times.
So I shag my LT 2 times at night, and say I only wake up one time in the middle of the night for a night time shag, then a BBBJCIM and a shag in the morning. 2,000 baht + 500 bar fine. 2,500 bhat / 5 finish = 500 baht per shot. How does short time at soi 6 say save me money??? 700 to 1000 for girl and 300 for room. OK I can go walk beach road for hours looking for half way decent talent for 500 to 700 baht for one shot.
Not every girl is willing or able to accepting to do this but I do have more then a hand full on my phone who are wanting this. And all girls that go long time know it is a multiple performance night or they get baht bus fare only.
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[QUOTE=Away Too Long]the best place to catch a baht bus to the Pattaya bus station? Is there a spot where there are regular buses going that way, and a standard fare?[/QUOTE]
Just take a baht bus to the traffic circle at the end of 2nd road/start of Naklua. Look to your right, there should be a baht bus or 2 waiting near that corner. They can take a few minutes to fill up. I paid 20b at first, until I saw some people were paying 10b. Now I also pay 10b, no problems.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Please don't let me grow old !!!!
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Wisest comment you have ever made! Anyone who says there is anything good about getting old is liar!!!
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[QUOTE=The Scout]
By doing ST (unless you really connect) saves you money, eliminates a bad nights sleep,
Instead of banging a chick the evening, then banging the same on the morning, I'd rather pay ST both times and experience more.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Nothing worse than sharing a bed with a pro. She's not a gf. Totally different experience.
But some guys like it, and its more bang for buck.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Please don't let me grow old !!!!
Nothing is finer after a night of sex then the roll her over and have bouts of 2 am and 4 am sex... then having a nice cup of coffee or tea while getting a BBBJ just starts my day... Followed by watching them naked ironing my shirts and a quick last parting shot before going off to work...
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Hahaha - it happens to the even the most libidinous studs eventually. I'm just pleased that I can still 'get it up' two and sometimes three times a day if I've had my weetabix. But not necessarily every day;).
After all I know guys of my age (mid 50's) back home who are lucky to get it twice a year (Xmas and birthdays!) atop their fat, grizzled, smelly old wives. So I count my lucky stars that I'm in a position to be able to bang lovely nubile young wenches whenever I get the urge:D.
Life is good, di ba?
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]After all I know guys of my age (mid 50's) back home who are lucky to get it twice a year (Xmas and birthdays!) atop their fat, grizzled, smelly old wives. So I count my lucky stars that I'm in a position to be able to bang lovely nubile young wenches whenever I get the urge:D.[/QUOTE]
Hell don't I know it... I say I am living my retirement... I'm gonna drop dead either on a plane, at my desk, or with some bar girl.... Luckily my family knows about my activities but I know they will be damn surprised when they open up one of my 2 TB hard drives :D
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[QUOTE=Wendella]In a nutshell, this is the problem. There's a part of me that wants to do long times, and especially with girls like this. But then there's this other part of me, and it might be a physical or chemical thing, that just always has this mood when the deed is done -- the mood to just want to be alone and get the girl out of there. But I know for sure that it's those extra go's around (middle of the night, or the morning after) that are often the best. But getting to that morning after gets harder and harder. The Garbo effect always seems to win out, and now I wonder if that's just how I am now, if I'm a total ST guy now.[/QUOTE]Very interesting report. Also, wierd for me, being only in my mid-30s and sharing your view. Feels like I am old already and I would need viagra soon, don't know.
I mean, not necessarly my first shot is always too quick, but it is a fact that after that I feel tired and need a long time to re-load before 2nd round.
I think it is much about physiology. I read another member doing the math on his rates, saying that he can have 5 shots into a long time session (hence 2. 500/5 = 500 bath per shot) and I do not doubt it but I could never do anything like that, not even in my 20s, 'cause I really empty my rocks in my shot so that I need time and time to refill my load and my cock almost aches if I try to push it. This is too bad since you must make the best out of your first (and maybe only) shot.
So, many times I saw no gain in keeping girl overnight, especially because I don't like to fuck, eat, drink, stroll or laying on the beach in the morning, there is only one thing I enjoy in the morning and is sleep peacefully.
Unless the girl is a real pro or dirty one, giving me a passionate BBBJ as starter to kick me into my 2nd round. In fkk in Germany, for example, where is worth going only if you do multiple sessions, I can make my encore in 3/4 hs time, which is still a lot of time but a good compromise. Thing is I never got a girl that skilled in Thailand, so I let the Garbo effect into myself too. Maybe we need to train our girl, as someone else suggest.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Nothing worse than sharing a bed with a pro.[/QUOTE]A lot of things worse, mate. Like most of the semi-old farts hereabouts, I usually prefer to sleep alone these days. But if it is with someone else, it's either with a cuddly GF type, as you say, or else a total hi-performance pro -- someone who's going to provide a great shag before sleep, then sleep on her own side of the bed before a good rousing bonk in the morning. Then she leaves, and none of this nonsense about having breakfast together or what-are-you-doing-today-can-I-come-along. A good pro is worth every satang, short time or long.
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[QUOTE=Fusnuts]When I was there I was told that peak season starts Nov 1. I was also told hotel prices and other prices would double then. Could someone clarify during which times prices double and if it is better to go just before peak or is just after peak better?[/QUOTE]
Sorry for late answer. I would distinguish between two peak season:
- peak season for hotel rates may start 1st November (it depends of the hotel) till end of March (idem)
- peak season for girls (it means you may have to pick them up earlier and price negotiation is excluded for the most pretty girls), from my experience only really starts around 10/15 December untill end of February. I was there end of November untill December 10th and really began to feel the peak season pressure increasing from December 6. I like better before peak because the weather is better (cooler, no rain), than after (but will come bacl in May anyway)
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]Very interesting report. Also, wierd for me, being only in my mid-30s and sharing your view. Feels like I am old already and I would need viagra soon, don't know.[/QUOTE]
I'm mid 40s, ,so not what I'd call quite "old". I used to be able to do LT no problem, standardly (it was my 1st choice usually) and also have a second go not too long after the 1st one, maybe an hr. I might still be able to, but that overhwelming feeling of wanting solitude right after the deed stops me from ever reaching the point of finding out. It's not really a feeling of repulsion against the girl - -like it happened last week when I had a fine young thing in bed, she was just delicious, just what the doctor ordered. But still I basically had that feeling of, well, I've beenthere donethat. But I'm pretty sure if she stuck around a few hours, I'd have had a different feeling about it by then. Maybe I need to get a 2nd room and send her off to go watch tv by herself. ;) And then maybe while she's over there, I'll put up the ironing board and take out some clothes to be pressed.
Never experienced FKK. When I was in Germany I had no clue about the scene there. That was in 80s.
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[QUOTE=Wendella] The Garbo effect always seems to win out, and now I wonder if that's just how I am now, if I'm a total ST guy now. [/QUOTE]
Know that thinking exactly.
Me now in my late 40s and if I remember 10 years ago,
LT is LT is LT! Period. And if she turned out to be a runner,
then back to the bar, complain, change the girl or money back.
(AC, not Pattaya)
Nowadays LT is still okay with a fine girl, but never going together for breakfast or so. But if I get a runner today, I simply kick her out without tip and sleep alone, no problem.
Things are changing.......
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]back home who are lucky to get it twice a year (Xmas and birthdays!) atop their fat, grizzled, smelly old wives. [/QUOTE]
Hehehe, same with my buddies back home in Europe. :D
Thank god for my job in SEA!!
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Wendella]
There must be others out there with these kinds of conflicted urges. I wonder how you deal with them. [/QUOTE]
I'm totally the opposite. I'm into my 40s and I refuse to do anything but LT. I want the warm body next to me all night. I want to wake up with her in the morning. My first shot on goal is typically short. By the 3rd I can get some good rhythm going. My middle of the night and morning shots are the most enjoyable. One of my first questions is whether a girl does LT. If she doesn't, I'm not interested.
Of course sometimes I get thinking with the wrong head and try to convince her. That typically ends with disappointment as she 'remembers' that she has to go.
Recently I took a girl two successive nights. The first night she got 5 shots out of me. The second night I was satisfied with one, sleep, on in the middle of the night and one in the morning.
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[QUOTE=Redfield10]I'm tired, it's not like there's an emotional connection. Because I don't know the girl at all. [/QUOTE]
I think here is another difference. I work hard to ensure there is some emotional connection. This leads to great adventure and great sex.
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[QUOTE=El Frances]Sorry for late answer. I would distinguish between two peak season:
- peak season for hotel rates may start 1st November (it depends of the hotel) till end of March (idem)
- peak season for girls (it means you may have to pick them up earlier and price negotiation is excluded for the most pretty girls), from my experience only really starts around 10/15 December untill end of February. I was there end of November untill December 10th and really began to feel the peak season pressure increasing from December 6. I like better before peak because the weather is better (cooler, no rain), than after (but will come bacl in May anyway)[/QUOTE]This is a pretty clear way to focus on the matter.
As I wrote before, never been in Novermber, only mid-January, when I could definitely feel the peak season pressure myself.
Anyone else could subscribe El Frances analysis, according to his own experience?
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Respect is important
[QUOTE=Pita123]I think here is another difference. I work hard to ensure there is some emotional connection. This leads to great adventure and great sex.[/QUOTE]
I´m with you - get some chemistry going and the experience is ten times more satisfying.
To me, a short time can be fantastic, but unless you can get on some sort of similar wavelength, it just like a wank using somneone else´s hand.
Open doors for them and make them laugh and you are three quarters there.
Respect is important - in both directions.
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[QUOTE=Westerby]I have been thinking about this before and after reading this I am again: has anyone ever written a book of real life stories of mongering and life in thailand? And I don't mean the beach but more like kumbus report in book form? I think it would sell well - especially if the names and places were real. Would be very interesting read.[/QUOTE]
Just one? There are plenty of books of this nature in every bookstore in Bangkok, including the airport.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I agree. Nothing worse than sharing a bed with a pro. She's not a gf. Totally different experience.
But some guys like it, and its more bang for buck.[/QUOTE]
I'll have to respectfully disagree. Work the chemistry, get it right, and you can get a real GFE. On subsequent visits it only gets better.
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[QUOTE=Ekspat]
Nowadays LT is still okay with a fine girl, but never going together for breakfast or so.
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Who wakes up early enough to have breakfast? I guess if you stay at LL and can have breakfast all day it is possible. I'm rarely out of bed before 11 unless she has a day job. Typically we'll start the day with some ba mee bped on Sukh Soi 15.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]
As I wrote before, never been in Novermber, ?[/QUOTE]
I often go Oct or Nov and definitely the ratio of ladies to mongers is great during this time. Easy to bargain down prices or at least get the normal prices.
Shark
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing]
BUT what let me down in Pattaya was poor service that I got from many babes (most of them no french kiss, no cum in mouth or face, no anal).
I was under the impressrion that you could do anything you want with them.
So we are back to the conclusion that maybe still better Pattaya because at least cheaper. .[/QUOTE]
Ok, what you need to know that in asia in general (not just in Patts) is that it is about 95-99% impossible to get anal (especially if you are white/ or black as they "fear our big cocks"-even before they see it). But if this is what you may fancy, then your best bet is Soi 6 bars. They often have many there that will do anal. just don't be shy to ask. If the one you ask won't, they will often direct you to one that will.
Note: I have often found the young "stunners" won't do anal, usually the mid- older ones have no problems with it.
And you are correct that it is far cheaper to monger in Pattaya than in Europe so for the same money you spend there you will get more action here and somewhere in the mix you will find what you seek. And when you do, just keep here for a while longer (repeats)
Shark
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Anal
This service is easy to find among providers over 30 - perhaps 10-20% do so provide. For quite a few of them it is their big selling point that keeps them busy despite not looking so good anymore.
Under 25 it is so rare as to be almost nonexistent (as we all know girls under 25 are not very common in the business anymore, even for ordinary service). If you're lucky you might find one in that 25-30 sweet spot who can do the Third Way. Keep looking!
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[quote=opebo]under 25 it is so rare as to be almost nonexistent (as we all know girls under 25 are not very common in the business anymore, even for ordinary service). if you're lucky you might find one in that 25-30 sweet spot who can do the third way. keep looking![/quote]
respectfully agree that over 30 can find pretty easy but respectfully disagree that can not find under 25. rarely am i going above the 25 year old range in most cases and i get anal service.
i do agree walking in and talking to a younger girl and asking for anal might not get you very far; however if you invest the time and trust issues with the girl i've gotten anal from every girl i've gone after. granted i have more frequent access to these girls then the once a year tourist.
i will agree that i do not try to get or ask for anal on my first visit but i alsy finger while daty, but with repeat performances and such and slowly with one finger while daty then move forward and forward each time soon you'll end up with her virgin anal. if she's lost her virgin and she hurt from the experience and is afraid to do it again, if you teach her and lube her and go slowly then you can get it also but takes time.
usually the girls who got paid a lot of money for virgin anal or got too drunk and a guy raped their asses are the most reluctant to do anal again. however the idiots obviously plunged in without proper anal foreplay.
so it is these types of girls that need kind hearted souls like us to show and teach them the finer art of anal sex ;)
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[quote=tansak ktv]respectfully agree that over 30 can find pretty easy but respectfully disagree that can not find under 25. rarely am i going above the 25 year old range in most cases and i get anal service.
i do agree walking in and talking to a younger girl and asking for anal might not get you very far; however if you invest the time and trust issues with the girl i've gotten anal from every girl i've gone after. granted i have more frequent access to these girls then the once a year tourist.
i will agree that i do not try to get or ask for anal on my first visit but i alsy finger while daty, but with repeat performances and such and slowly with one finger while daty then move forward and forward each time soon you'll end up with her virgin anal. if she's lost her virgin and she hurt from the experience and is afraid to do it again, if you teach her and lube her and go slowly then you can get it also but takes time.
usually the girls who got paid a lot of money for virgin anal or got too drunk and a guy raped their asses are the most reluctant to do anal again. however the idiots obviously plunged in without proper anal foreplay.
so it is these types of girls that need kind hearted souls like us to show and teach them the finer art of anal sex ;)[/quote]there, spoken like an old pro and, i have to agree with our learned friend. to come charging into town, even with 1, 000 baht notes being distributed like confetti, will not always guarantee a satisfactory end result. the younger girls, might be a little bit more selective these days, as to which customers they really want to please. after all, they just might have bank accounts bulging with cash themselves, that are being topped up every month by a few 'special boyfriends. ' so, slow down, as k. tansak says 'invest a little time in them, ' make them feel comfortable with you before trying stuff that they might not like. if you have no time for this then go to soi 6. there, many of the girls might tell you that you can do exactly what you want to do, before you enter the bar. if you do have time then work at it. you could, eventually, reach the levels of k. tansak and engage the girls in these activities whilst they are also ironing your shirts and, clipping your toenails at the same time.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Everyone says this but HOW? Do the math for me please... I take a girl long time and she knows she's going to have sex multiple times. I never take a girl who thinks they are going to have sex 2 times.
So I shag my LT 2 times at night, and say I only wake up one time in the middle of the night for a night time shag, then a BBBJCIM and a shag in the morning. 2,000 baht + 500 bar fine. 2,500 bhat / 5 finish = 500 baht per shot. How does short time at soi 6 say save me money??? 700 to 1000 for girl and 300 for room. OK I can go walk beach road for hours looking for half way decent talent for 500 to 700 baht for one shot.
Not every girl is willing or able to accepting to do this but I do have more then a hand full on my phone who are wanting this. And all girls that go long time know it is a multiple performance night or they get baht bus fare only.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion LT is about memories and building relationships for possible future LT. The 'building relationships' part takes time and effort. The money saving aspect for me comes down to a time vs money situation (of course this is for me so it depends on an individual's GFE). For me LT means going out a little bit after picking her up, going home, sleeping, waking up, eating with her usually and sex in between all of that. For me LT means a true GFE so it feels strange when I do boom boom boom see-you. So now you have the going out, the food, the time wasted on sleep and other things you do. After this comes emotional investment due to the GFE. If I personally want the best bang for my buck with no emotional attachment then ST is where it's at.
When I'm really horny, I have some ladies that want me to finish 2 times before leaving during ST. I keep their numbers for future use.
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Indeed anal with a young girl at the first time is not so easy. Though it's possible, if she likes you. Or if she has done anal before and likes it. I had ones a girl at soi 6 who loves anal really. She was below 25 told me that she wants to do anal 24 hours a day. Though there are enough whose do it nowadays.
A few yours back it was more difficult, imho.
But, also true that the chance to get a pretty and young girl, to do anal is low if you just ask if she will do. In such a case almost all will say no. If you sleep with her and she enjoy and you play your cards well, than it can happens that she let you have her 3rd hole as well.
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She was pregnant
If you recall some time back there was a ST girl i picked up on Beach Road that had a bit of a big belly and aereolas as dark as I dont know what. To me these things indicated she was pregnant but she denied it.
She was pregnant.
I just went back to Pattaya and believe me she is as big as a house! Six months pregnant in fact. She had a friend that was pregnant as well (three months) that begged me to take her as well. The friend was awesome. She was tight, moaned alot and was soaking wet. The other one was squirting milk all over the place(strangely enough her milk was yellow in color). For an extra 500 baht I shot it on her stomach that was covered in milk and her friend lapped it up!
Not the best experience with the prettiest of girls but nevertheless a good experience overall.
Showdown
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[QUOTE=Sharka]Ok, what you need to know that in asia in general (not just in Patts) is that it is about 95-99% impossible to get anal (especially if you are white/ or black as they "fear our big cocks"-even before they see it). But if this is what you may fancy, then your best bet is Soi 6 bars. They often have many there that will do anal. just don't be shy to ask. If the one you ask won't, they will often direct you to one that will.
Note: I have often found the young "stunners" won't do anal, usually the mid- older ones have no problems with it.
Shark[/QUOTE]
Almost forgot to add.
Beware of some on Soi 6 that looks good and very willing to anal as I found that they are sometimes Ladyboys so "inspect" carefully or you will be in for a rude surprise.
Shark
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[QUOTE=Sharka]Almost forgot to add.
Beware of some on Soi 6 that looks good and very willing to anal as I found that they are sometimes Ladyboys so "inspect" carefully or you will be in for a rude surprise.
Shark[/QUOTE]
Many are post op, some seem to be in every bar but I find it funny some bars openly advertise that their girls are all 100% real girls. Last visit a month ago I was friendly with a LADY at one bar where a post op LB worked, she would tell the customers if they asked but if they didn't ask off to the short time room. She was averaging about 4 customers a day and when I was sitting outside I never saw one leave upset, and always kissing him / her good bye. I guess some guys either want it or are too dumb to know.
I'm not advocating, just saying that I think if you ask, the ones that I know would tell you if they are post op or pre op etc... But it seems some of the best looking ones on the street are the lady boys. So if they look pretty and do all then as Shark said, I'd be very cautious....
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Chinese New Year in Pattaya
It's all a blur now, but having read and heard as much as I have about this place, I finally got there for a week over the Chinese New Year.
It's nuts. I stayed five days at the Marriott which is a super location and the girls love it because of the bath tub and plush surroundings. I stayed free, but if you've got a few bucks it's worth the percs. The other two days I stayed at the Queen Victoria Inn on Soy6 which is very cheap, very good and has a great staff and good food. The location in the middle of the Soi6 rodeo leads to a crazy time there too.
No problem bringing girls to the Marriott. They've got good security and they'll salute you and the girl as they open the elevator for you. If the girl(s) look questionable at all, the guard will hold her ID until she comes back from her visit (LT or ST). I had that happen 1 of five times.
My net is that the most efficient and reliable way to a good time is to hit the Walking Street Go Go bars, find a girl there, test drive her there and pay the bar fine. You know what you're getting, you've got some idea of her cooperation of lack of it, and you can get her to your place instead of some God-forsaken dive who-knows-where. My sense of the bar girls was a very high percentage of older girls, certainly eager and active, but not too attactive to my taste. I had two exceptions. Both small bars off the beaten path. One on a shore side alley way just before Walking Street on Beach Road and another on 2nd Road a little north of the Soi 6 intersection, inland side.
I went to those soapie places some guys mentioned and the women there looked like retired bar girls who could no longer qualify. But it was Chinese New Year so maybe my sample was skewed. I was not impressed by anyone of the thirty or so I saw in these places.
Beach Road has a bunch of girls. Some really skanky. But some who are very young and cute. I got a pair from there and also met two who were just Thai tourists! We had a good time and being Thai, they took me to some good local places outside of the sex trade which was a nice alternative for a day and a half. Nice girls.
The prettiest girl I saw (most were too "ethnic" for me with farm girl feet and hands), worked in a Lady Boy bar with her family. She should be a model someplace and was just lovely to look at. The best time was a Go Go Girl from a side street off Walking Street who impressed my by the whipped cream she'd put on her nipples for me to lick off (in the bar). A piece of work and really fun. I went back a few times, but I forget the name.
I thought the airport themed place on Walking Street was the craziest of the Go Go bars. The Marines were in town as part of maneuvers and you had to be careful because of the ruckus they caused wherever they were. A good bunch of guys though who deserved the break and took every advantage of it.
If you have not been to Pattaya. Go. It's not something you will see anyplace else and everything (EVERYTHING) is on sale at bargain prices.
The pics attached are not typical of most of the women.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Many are post op, some seem to be in every bar but I find it funny some bars openly advertise that their girls are all 100% real girls. Last visit a month ago I was friendly with a LADY at one bar where a post op LB worked, she would tell the customers if they asked but if they didn't ask off to the short time room. She was averaging about 4 customers a day and when I was sitting outside I never saw one leave upset, and always kissing him / her good bye. I guess some guys either want it or are too dumb to know.
I'm not advocating, just saying that I think if you ask, the ones that I know would tell you if they are post op or pre op etc... But it seems some of the best looking ones on the street are the lady boys. So if they look pretty and do all then as Shark said, I'd be very cautious....[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if ya think about it, they probably had a chance to try out their own product first hand, as it were -- I mean -- they know what makes a man feel good from the man's point of view. Don't think that's quite enough to sell me on the product tho. ;)
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Soi 6
I remember about 4 years ago I was cruising down soi 6 had visited a couple of bars but unable to make my mind up in choosing a girl. I stopped in a bar for a Singha (think it was Kong bar) as usual I got my beer and found company sat right next to me. She was quite petite and chatty, after about 30 seconds she was playing with the one eyed trouser snake and making conversation at the same time. It was 700 baht to go up to a room with her or she she would blow me where I sat if I prefered, I was very tempted but still holding out. She whispered in my ear that sometimes her pussy gets sore from too much fucking and she prefers it up the arse, that was it I had to try it out and up I went.
May the force be with you.
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint]How was it?[/QUOTE]
No doubt a typical arsehole!
An arsehole is an arsehole!
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No problem bringing girls to the Marriott. They've got good security and they'll salute you and the girl as they open the elevator for you. If the girl(s) look questionable at all, the guard will hold her ID until she comes back from her visit (LT or ST). I had that happen 1 of five times.
Is that true. We stayed in the Marriot some 4/5 years ago, and were stung by the hotel charging to bring our guests back. If it's changed, may book Marriot again as we're looking to go in April.
TIA
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5 Feb nights in Pattaya.
Came down from Isan with a wingman to see 2 mates over on their annual visit.
Booked into the excellent Pasadena Lodge again in Soi LK Metro, 1000 THB per night all inclusive for the Classroom. No brekkie. Cash only.
First night was spent catching up and drinking too much and visiting too many Go Go bars. No action from me although 1 guy BF'd a girl from the Iron Club which he had previously encountered prior to my arrival. 650 THB BF and 2000 THB LT so I am told.
Superbaby and the Beach Club had some very cute girls and turned out to be the best of the bunch for me, Casanovy was very average and I personally didn't like the feel in the Iron Club. Tried to get into Windmill but it was chaotic and chocker.
Second night kicked off playing pool at Megabreak in Soi Diana. Well organised place plenty of tables (15 I think) and all in good condition.
Decided to go back to the Beach Club and BF'd from there one of the hostesses. 600 THB. 1500 LT. Nice performer who delivered the goods just like a GF 3 times before a 11am departure.
Third night went back for some more of the same at the Beach Club but lo and behold not there, so BF'd another hostesses and kept her for the Fourth night as well. Also was very attentive and spoke very good English and used to work in Soi Cowboy, BKK so knew the ropes extremely well indeed. Excellent performer who loved to BBBJ and was very willing to please and I enjoyed my time with her over 2 days. Paid 3000 THB for the 2 days.
My wingman BF'd a 22 year old from the Beach Club who was still milking and was clearly very farm fresh so he told me, she spoke hardly any English at all.
On the last night I BF'd a girl from Tim's a place I had not been to for along while who again was an enthusiastic performer, although not up to the level of the Beach Club girls in terms of her figure as she was a tadge bit older, 33 but was very nice company. Some reasonable looking girls in Tim's IMO but no stunners and the place wasn't busy.
I had another very good meal at Patrick's the Belgian restaurant in the small parade to the right as you enter Soi Diana and also went to eat at Marine Seafood and the Beer Garden three times and found both satisfactory.
Saturday night spent for 3 or so hours in the Blues Factory which was packed for when Lam Morrison came on and again was superb.
Also did an afternoon Jomtien visit but found it very disappointing, Winchester Club only had 1.2 girls of any note, the Go Go bar before you hit beach road in Jomtien on the left basically stank and the girls were awful. Saved the trip by going to the Stork Club for a couple of hours which offered some degree of normality prior to returning to Pattaya.
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The Photos for the story
Here are some of the photos that illustrate the Chinese New Year Adventure in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Ed Heres]It's all a blur now, but having read and heard as much as I have about this place, I finally got there for a week over the Chinese New Year.
It's nuts. I stayed five days at the Marriott which is a super location and the girls love it because of the bath tub and plush surroundings. I stayed free, but if you've got a few bucks it's worth the percs. The other two days I stayed at the Queen Victoria Inn on Soy6 which is very cheap, very good and has a great staff and good food. The location in the middle of the Soi6 rodeo leads to a crazy time there too.
No problem bringing girls to the Marriott. They've got good security and they'll salute you and the girl as they open the elevator for you. If the girl(s) look questionable at all, the guard will hold her ID until she comes back from her visit (LT or ST). I had that happen 1 of five times.
My net is that the most efficient and reliable way to a good time is to hit the Walking Street Go Go bars, find a girl there, test drive her there and pay the bar fine. You know what you're getting, you've got some idea of her cooperation of lack of it, and you can get her to your place instead of some God-forsaken dive who-knows-where. My sense of the bar girls was a very high percentage of older girls, certainly eager and active, but not too attactive to my taste. I had two exceptions. Both small bars off the beaten path. One on a shore side alley way just before Walking Street on Beach Road and another on 2nd Road a little north of the Soi 6 intersection, inland side.
I went to those soapie places some guys mentioned and the women there looked like retired bar girls who could no longer qualify. But it was Chinese New Year so maybe my sample was skewed. I was not impressed by anyone of the thirty or so I saw in these places.
Beach Road has a bunch of girls. Some really skanky. But some who are very young and cute. I got a pair from there and also met two who were just Thai tourists! We had a good time and being Thai, they took me to some good local places outside of the sex trade which was a nice alternative for a day and a half. Nice girls.
The prettiest girl I saw (most were too "ethnic" for me with farm girl feet and hands), worked in a Lady Boy bar with her family. She should be a model someplace and was just lovely to look at. The best time was a Go Go Girl from a side street off Walking Street who impressed my by the whipped cream she'd put on her nipples for me to lick off (in the bar). A piece of work and really fun. I went back a few times, but I forget the name.
I thought the airport themed place on Walking Street was the craziest of the Go Go bars. The Marines were in town as part of maneuvers and you had to be careful because of the ruckus they caused wherever they were. A good bunch of guys though who deserved the break and took every advantage of it.
If you have not been to Pattaya. Go. It's not something you will see anyplace else and everything (EVERYTHING) is on sale at bargain prices.
The pics attached are not typical of most of the women.
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[QUOTE=Ed Heres]Here are some of the photos that illustrate the Chinese New Year Adventure in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
Are any of the girls pictured from Beach Road?
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Are any of the girls pictured from Beach Road?[/QUOTE]Yea, the two well dressed women are the tourists who I met on Beach Road and the two doing that ballet trick on the bed are Bead Road finds.
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[QUOTE=Pepe1234]No problem bringing girls to the Marriott. They've got good security and they'll salute you and the girl as they open the elevator for you. If the girl(s) look questionable at all, the guard will hold her ID until she comes back from her visit (LT or ST). I had that happen 1 of five times.
Is that true. We stayed in the Marriot some 4/5 years ago, and were stung by the hotel charging to bring our guests back. If it's changed, may book Marriot again as we're looking to go in April.
TIA[/QUOTE]Yea, it's true. I was surprised. I walked some "guests" around to see the pool and all and never had an eyebrow raised. I was there for five nights, though so they knew me and the girls I brought back were dressed decently. It's a great place to stay with lots of room a great pool, huge beds and co-located with the mall. It's not more than three hundred meters (four blocks?) from the entrance to Walking Street. There's an entrance on 2nd road and one off Beach Road. Both entrances and the grounds are well-patrolled by security guys who seem to love to salute. Getting the girls to return their salute or to salute them first seems to crack everybody up pretty well.
The food is good and the girls who work the bar are sweet and friendly.
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[QUOTE=Ed Heres]the two doing that ballet trick on the bed are Bead Road finds.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I remember that I had the one with the chequer dress in my room on my last holiday (June 2009) in Pattaya. She stayed opposite Royal Garden Plaza. I don't remember why I took the chequer dress girl for a short time. She is cute, but very tiny and even skinny under the dress. Maybe because she did anal, or I had just a weak moment...
The other girl I remember as well, but I think I just saw her a few tiimes when I walk by. Maybe I have even spoke with her. I did this with some beach girls last sommer. I took their telefon no, in case I want book her.
Anyway they are one of the better looking Beach Road girls.
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Taxi
[QUOTE=Gaolei]
I used to fight with taxis and tolls and all of the other BS. Now I just send them an email and they take care of the rest with no negotiation and no BS. [url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url] I always give the driver a few hundred Bt for good service, they have to live too.[/QUOTE]
I've been to Pattaya many, many times. Already "know everything". Tried this taxi service, and I'll use it from now on. No hassle. Driver waiting with my name. Even an old dog can learn new tricks... Thank you, and now passing on my recommendation too. I've already booked my return to the airport with them.
J37
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Marriott
I've stayed at the Marriott for the past 10 years, back when it was the Royal Garden Hotel, and still somewhat "new". I've never had to pay a girl-fee or had to have them show their ID at the desk (though I realize that is for my protection). One of the more expensive hotels, definitely not cheap. But so dang convenient to everything, and a short walk or baht bus to Walking Street. And I do feel like General MacArthur when I walk by security, getting the salute, before I go to my room with my girl and become the benevolent dictator.
J37
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[QUOTE=Jelly37]And I do feel like General MacArthur when I walk by security, getting the salute, before I go to my room with my girl and become the benevolent dictator.
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So in other words, you shall return. ;)
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General MacArthur
[QUOTE=Wendella]So in other words, you shall return. ;)[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your optimism. I shall return, but it's unlikely I'll come again.
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint]To come charging into town, even with 1, 000 Baht notes being distributed like confetti, will not always guarantee a satisfactory end result. The younger girls, might be a little bit more selective these days, as to which customers they really want to please. After all, they just might have bank accounts bulging with cash themselves, that are being topped up every month by a few 'Special Boyfriends. [/QUOTE]Thanks all for joining conversation on this topic.
Saint Mint in particular hits the point, in my opinion.
Problem is that young girls go virtually with anyone but then perform good only with the ones they like. And how do I know if she likes me or not and where can I push her?
I mean, anal is just welcome not essential, but I assume that basic fk, BBBJ and maybe a c. I. M. Or c. I. F. Is admitted, but many times I found out they are not.
On the other hand, I don't like either to interview a girl from A to Z about what she does and doesn't before taking her to hotel.
So, I took many girls under a coin-flip conditions: would she like me and go for it or she won't and I would end up just doing plain bum bum?
Many girls let me down because, once in room, started their singing: "I am shy, I am dry, don't do this, don't do that, don't look at me (covering herself with sheets or towel). " Oh?! Are you kidding?
So, I was wondering if that just happened to me and why? Is it due to young age, high season, cheap rate. whatever?
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Angel Witch: Wasn't a fan. Unattractive girls. Most of them were 5s. Lots of thigh cellulite. The shows were boring and seeing those thighs covered in oil was not pretty. Only redeeming quality was some of the waitresses are pretty cute.
Baccara: Some cute girls here. Mostly 6s and 7s, a few 8s. Nice club layout. I stayed here a while.
Dollhouse: Mostly 6s. The mamasan is very pushy and annoying. Club not laid out well and not too enjoyable to hang out in. A/C was blasting and I was freezing and so eager to leave.
I ended up taking a small 19 year old girl out of dollhouse. We agreed to LT for 2000 bhat. We boomed 1 time and then slept about 3 or 4 hours and then she wanted to leave. She tried to claim it was LT. I said OK she can go but I wouldn't pay for LT. Paid her 1000 bhat. The 1 boom boom was very good though.
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Anyone have any advice on where I can go to see some girls who are real stunners (9s)?
I have a craving for a gorgeous girl.
Too often I'm seeing only girls who are cute enough but nothing too exciting.
I need someone who's almost painful to look at because she's so beautiful.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Angel Witch Baccara Dollhouse[/QUOTE]
So you went to one place in Nana and 2 in Soi Cowboy? Is that right?
At Nana, Rainbow bars have the rep for best lookers (for this type of venue at least) -- when I was there last over a year ago, it was Rainbow 4 on the middle level, but I've heard these days Rainbow 2 has taken the lead.
I guess some here would say that the gentleman clubs and coyote bars are the ones with the hottest girls, and I guess they're not as accessible or affordable of course as in the go-gos. I haven't tried those types of venues so am not the person to ask.
For FL, there's some places that get more expensive and generally hotter ones than elsewhere (thinking of Spasso and places like that.. .again, need to ask the expats here who know better)
But you know, the ones who are so gorgeous it hurts, well, one like that tends to have the same effect on all men, and so rarely end up in the kinds of places we go. One reason they would have that effect on you is that they're rare specimens. Being rare, they're hard to find.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]So you went to one place in Nana and 2 in Soi Cowboy? Is that right?[/quote]
Actually I'm in Pattaya. There just happen to be several of the same clubs here as in Bangkok
[quote]But you know, the ones who are so gorgeous it hurts, well, one like that tends to have the same effect on all men, and so rarely end up in the kinds of places we go. One reason they would have that effect on you is that they're rare specimens. Being rare, they're hard to find.[/QUOTE]
Well I'm getting really sick of 6s and 7s.
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Baccara in Pattaya? Must be new? I do not remember seeing a club with that name in Pattaya.
Pretty girls are rare in Thailand, imho. But, one who likes tiny girls can have fun there. One who prefer leggy and curvy girls will not have the best time in Pattaya, imho.
I usually find some from that type in the FL spots, like Insomnia, MixX, Walking Street Club, etc. But, all in all I am not impressed with the beauty of Thai girls. The reason why I nevertheless like to spend my holliday's in Thailand is, that LOS has still the best package.
Regarding GoGo's it's difficult to give a advice, since quality of girls will change quite often. On season the one bar has one or a few good looking girls, the other season another bar. So, best is you just have a look in every bar.
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[QUOTE=DG69]Baccara in Pattaya? Must be new? I do not remember seeing a club with that name in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
Same owner as Peppermint and Happy and another bar.... You come walking out the side soi that Happy is on and you just about run into it on Walking street.
Same set up as in BKK with glass and can look up on second floor but they have a pole where the girls can slide down from the second to the first floor. Is new just opened in Dec I think... so it is clean and set up kind of nice.
Girls are NOT better they just moved from Peppermint over and and added a few new girls. But less loud and crowded then Peppermint was. Too many Senior Citizens running into Peppermint to buy ladies drink upon drink and such...
Baccara in pat's was less crowded and more friendly as it was a new club and LARGER then most / many clubs so more space. But pricing is same, I just don't see how some ugly girls at like DollHouse and others think they are worth the barfine plus their fee...
I guess some guys are just blind dumb and stupid....
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Pattaya...not everyone's idea of heaven
Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. Apologies in advance if I upset anyone here but I'd like to point out some of my observations on Pattaya:
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists
4. Way too many beer bars or maybe just quiet right now but the average bar girl is just that...pretty average
5. Beach Road...God what a bunch of old hags but ocassional treat, tried a couple but was very disappointed
6. However all the above was mitigated by a girl I met on my last night just as I was really abandoning all hope. Walking down Beach Road I started chatting to a reasonable looking girl...not young but not old (29 I found out), always ask how long she has been in Pattaya (so as to determine attitude, ie the shorter the better) turns out 1 month and she hated the place. Then I ask about family, where from etc (to determine motivation). Seems she has a daughter back home in Isaan somewhere that she is devoted to and is only doing it for her, calls back every night, wants to earn enough to support her etc...seemed reasonable enough plus she was not in your face like many a Thai but rather a shy, introverted type which I thought must be at odds with her chosen way to earn a wage.
Anyway I ask her how much and she didnt really seem to know so I took her back to my hotel, would decide later whether long or short time. After she relaxed she just wouldn't let me sleep, was permanently wet and well really made up for the fact I was in such a shitty town. We had breakfast together, said our goodbyes and I got a taxi to the airport and am now elsewhere in Asia and happy to be away from Pattaya...what a dump.
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[QUOTE=Bloke]Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. Apologies in advance if I upset anyone here but I'd like to point out some of my observations on Pattaya:
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters. Or worse. God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists
4. Way too many beer bars or maybe just quiet right now but the average bar girl is just that. Pretty average
5. Beach Road. God what a bunch of old hags but ocassional treat, tried a couple but was very disappointed
6. However all the above was mitigated by a girl I met on my last night just as I was really abandoning all hope. Walking down Beach Road I started chatting to a reasonable looking girl. Not young but not old (29 I found out), always ask how long she has been in Pattaya (so as to determine attitude, ie the shorter the better) turns out 1 month and she hated the place. Then I ask about family, where from etc (to determine motivation). Seems she has a daughter back home in Isaan somewhere that she is devoted to and is only doing it for her, calls back every night, wants to earn enough to support her etc. Seemed reasonable enough plus she was not in your face like many a Thai but rather a shy, introverted type which I thought must be at odds with her chosen way to earn a wage.
Anyway I ask her how much and she didn't really seem to know so I took her back to my hotel, would decide later whether long or short time. After she relaxed she just wouldn't let me sleep, was permanently wet and well really made up for the fact I was in such a shitty town. We had breakfast together, said our goodbyes and I got a taxi to the airport and am now elsewhere in Asia and happy to be away from Pattaya. What a dump.[/QUOTE]Yes shit happens.
You love the place or you hate it, but there's nothing inbetween
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1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
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Funny how guys come from such a long distance for girls only to notice men.
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[QUOTE=Bloke]Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. Apologies in advance if I upset anyone here but I'd like to point out some of my observations on Pattaya:
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists
4. Way too many beer bars or maybe just quiet right now but the average bar girl is just that...pretty average
5. Beach Road...God what a bunch of old hags but ocassional treat, tried a couple but was very disappointed
6. However all the above was mitigated by a girl I met on my last night just as I was really abandoning all hope. Walking down Beach Road I started chatting to a reasonable looking girl...not young but not old (29 I found out), always ask how long she has been in Pattaya (so as to determine attitude, ie the shorter the better) turns out 1 month and she hated the place. Then I ask about family, where from etc (to determine motivation). Seems she has a daughter back home in Isaan somewhere that she is devoted to and is only doing it for her, calls back every night, wants to earn enough to support her etc...seemed reasonable enough plus she was not in your face like many a Thai but rather a shy, introverted type which I thought must be at odds with her chosen way to earn a wage.
Anyway I ask her how much and she didnt really seem to know so I took her back to my hotel, would decide later whether long or short time. After she relaxed she just wouldn't let me sleep, was permanently wet and well really made up for the fact I was in such a shitty town. We had breakfast together, said our goodbyes and I got a taxi to the airport and am now elsewhere in Asia and happy to be away from Pattaya...what a dump.[/QUOTE]
I certainly agree with points 1, 2, 3. I especially hate the attitude of many falling who inhabit Pattaya. I encounter them on their visa runs elsewhere in SE Asia. I stay away from Walking St. and all the usual bullshit that goes with it. In Pattaya I either go stay with friends or in a GH in Jomtien.
But I find that the Beach Road scenario is wonderful. I don't go there too late and I always make sure that I avoid the haggard, inebriated or weird types. If I spot someone that seems nice, I usually stop and sit with the girl and check her out by asking polite questions, as if I am chatting her up. I can do this without commitment. If it turns out that there is something about the woman that I don't like, I make charming excuses like "you are so nice but tonight I have no power." By taking my time and waiting until I find a good one, I have never had a bad experience back in my room with a girl from Beach Road. Now that the economy is not great, there are even factory girls to be found there. Treat them with respect and be nice and you will have a great or the closest thing to a GFE that you will ever have. I have even taken a few on as temporary girlfriends for a few days - something I never do with professionals in Bangkok.
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[QUOTE=Bloke]1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros[/quote]
This is true, and I find it depressing seeing them sitting at the bars every day with a beer, but they're all over thailand, so I don't know why you're citing it as evidence against Pattaya specifically.
[quote]2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists[/quote]
This hasn't bothered me. The Russians are worse if only for their sheer numbers and the fact that even many signs are in russian.
[quote]4. Way too many beer bars or maybe just quiet right now but the average bar girl is just that...pretty average[/quote]
Haven't seen any yet with a girl who made me want to sit down.
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[QUOTE=Bloke]Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. Apologies in advance if I upset anyone here but I'd like to point out some of my observations on Pattaya:
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters. Or worse. God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
Exactly how I described it in my book:
Groups of girls, young and old, pretty and not so pretty, were loitering. One did say 'I go with you. ' I didn't.
Groups of tourists were also hanging about and, some were sitting on a small wall that ran along the Beach Road separating, the actual beach, from the pavement. Many of these tourists looked decidedly disheveled. Greasy hair, unshaven, clothes looking like they had not been washed in days and, drinking from bottles of beer. They reminded me of the days gone by when I used to take the underground trains in London. Vagrants, would always hang around in the under ground walkways, sheltering and collecting change from the busy commuters who would all be rushing to their next destinations. These couldn't be the same guys could they? Did they really collect enough change to afford holidays in Thailand? I moved swiftly on as one of the loitering older, not so pretty girls, moved in on one of the vagrant tourists. I just about over heard her opening lines 'you handsome man. I like you. I go with you'.
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Agism, the most shortsighted bigotry
[QUOTE=Bloke]1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters...or worse...God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros[/QUOTE]
Let us hope that Bloke never has to face old age, or that when he does, the youth of that day are less arrogant and more sympathetic than he.
To my elders in Pattaya, however 'scruffy' - I salute you for making the best of that inevitable decline we will all face (if we're lucky).
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baccara in Pattaya
I was in Pattaya the first part of Feb . and stoppe din to Baccara. It looks new and seems to be a clean place. Again s, same set up as in BKK with glass sealing. Place is smaller that BKK but the help didn't seem as pushy as they are in BKk. Some cute girls like most places, but not all wil fit the bill. It is on walking street on the ocean side. Girls seemed friendly when I was in there. Didn't to about BF or anything so no knowledge about that.
Mackin
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[QUOTE=Bloke]I shall not be going back to Pattaya. [/QUOTE]
People either like it or dislike it.
However.... like many people, my first trip I hated it, second trip hated it, third trip was OK, fourth trip was a little better, fifth trip a little better etc...
Pattaya it TOO BIG to see or do or learn in even 20 trips, and it is not like BKK at all. You need to learn the local layout and scene before you can appreciate or form an opinion.
And with due respect... your story sure sounds like you spent a lot of time on Beach Road... um... wow you looked at all the high end locations.... There surely is no better talent / service other then Beach Road.
Even if you did venture to other locations I'm sure you missed 98% of what Pattaya has to offer.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]If you want to fuck someone that looks like that then fuck a ladyboy.
Simple as.[/QUOTE]Maybe we have a different rating scale.
I rate ladyboys a 0, not a 9.
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[b]Re: Posting TV/TS advisories[/b]
Greetings everyone,
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Maybe we have a different rating scale.
I rate ladyboys a 0, not a 9.[/QUOTE]Well ok but what if you found a girl who was a 9, and then only found out later she was a ladyboy. There's some who are butt ugly and some who fool us good and actually do look better (as long as you don't realize) than most real girls.
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[b]Re: Posting TV/TS advisories[/b]
Greetings everyone,
I am aware that the vast majority of references to transvestites or transsexuals are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup transvestites or transsexuals, etc. However, past discussions in the Forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.
Please do not post information about or references to transvestites or transsexuals in the Forum. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Well ok but what if you found a girl who was a 9, and then only found out later she was a ladyboy. There's some who are butt ugly and some who fool us good and actually do look better (as long as you don't realize) than most real girls.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm being cocky about my own detection skills, but I feel like most guys who get fooled for more than a couple seconds probably want to be fooled.
Yesterday in Pattaya walking around I saw about two girls who were 9s. Both were with a guy though.
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[b]Re: Posting TV/TS advisories[/b]
Greetings everyone,
I am aware that the vast majority of references to transvestites or transsexuals are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup transvestites or transsexuals, etc. However, past discussions in the Forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.
Please do not post information about or references to transvestites or transsexuals in the Forum. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.
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Dear Mr. Bloke,
When I was very young, I really believed my life was over at 30! Sixty and having sex. How disgusting! Now I am 67, a bit overweight, bald and still having a lot of fun. Most of my friends, even back home, are much younger than I am and they like it that way. I am lucky, that they are not as prejudiced, as I used to be in my younger days.
There is no justice in life!
[QUOTE=Bloke]Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. Apologies in advance if I upset anyone here but I'd like to point out some of my observations on Pattaya:
1. The place is full of washed up old losers from Europe/US who are obviously there on a long term basis and really don't do anything for the city's image, a real bunch of scruffy, fat old wasters. Or worse. God only knows what the Thais think of them, and what do they do all day? Many just sit on Beach Road drinking their takeaways and letching at the girls which must really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the pros
2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists
4. Way too many beer bars or maybe just quiet right now but the average bar girl is just that. Pretty average
5. Beach Road. God what a bunch of old hags but ocassional treat, tried a couple but was very disappointed
6. However all the above was mitigated by a girl I met on my last night just as I was really abandoning all hope. Walking down Beach Road I started chatting to a reasonable looking girl. Not young but not old (29 I found out), always ask how long she has been in Pattaya (so as to determine attitude, ie the shorter the better) turns out 1 month and she hated the place. Then I ask about family, where from etc (to determine motivation). Seems she has a daughter back home in Isaan somewhere that she is devoted to and is only doing it for her, calls back every night, wants to earn enough to support her etc. Seemed reasonable enough plus she was not in your face like many a Thai but rather a shy, introverted type which I thought must be at odds with her chosen way to earn a wage.
Anyway I ask her how much and she didn't really seem to know so I took her back to my hotel, would decide later whether long or short time. After she relaxed she just wouldn't let me sleep, was permanently wet and well really made up for the fact I was in such a shitty town. We had breakfast together, said our goodbyes and I got a taxi to the airport and am now elsewhere in Asia and happy to be away from Pattaya. What a dump.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bloke]
2. Coach loads of Japanese tourists bussed in daily
3. Many Indian and Arab tourists
Just to add my 2 cents to the chorus... I think it a bit odd that no one finds it offensive that Japanese, Indian and Arab tourists are the objection (not just "coach loads of tourists"). Should the foreigners visiting your favorite part of Thailand be from your country, wherever that is? I don't need to start a flame war here, but the implicit racism should not be left unnoticed.
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[QUOTE=Bloke]Just left Thailand after having had to go to Bangkok for work plus tagged on a couple of days R'n'R in Pattaya. I shall not be going back to Pattaya. [/QUOTE]
At least you gave it a try and now you're not left wondering 'what if'.
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Pttaya...not everyone's idea of heaven
Just to follow up what I wrote earlier and to banish any misconceptions people have about my observations:
1. I am not ageist, I would criticise younger people who couldn't be bothered to make the slightest effort in terms of personal hygiene and appearance and generally are an eyesore to anyone who is unfortunate enough to pass by...
2. Japanese, Indian and Arab tourists help the reader understand the cultural nuances at work when they are in an alien environment and interact with the local populations. For example a mass of Japanese following a tour guide with a flag...get the picture? General Arab attitudes towards females...comprendez?
3. Actually it is my second time to Pattaya, was there once a few years back but with a mixed group m/f and there for other reasons than mogering (even though that was also done) so I can compare then and now. Now is simply worse than then but as one poster suggested, there is Jomtien and around which I have not been to...I have been as far north as Mae Sai and south to Songklah so I have an idea of the real Thaialand. For the beach Hua Hin in retrospect is probably more my bag so to speak
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Bloke, you're not the first and you won't be the last person to offer up his disdain for Pattaya and even though you went out of your way to be offensive, you made some good points in your post. Although unlikely to happen anytime soon, I can’t imagine what the place would be like if someone ever got around to cleansing Pattaya of its unsightly expat and tourist population.
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Everybody's got one!
[QUOTE=Bloke]Just to follow up what I wrote earlier and to banish any misconceptions people have about my observations...I would criticise younger people who couldn't be bothered to make the slightest effort in terms of personal hygiene and appearance...I have been as far north as Mae Sai and south to Songklah so I have an idea of the real Thaialand. For the beach Hua Hin in retrospect is probably more my bag so to speak[/QUOTE]As the old saying goes: [i]Opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one![/i]
Bloke, I'm sure there are quite a few ISG members that agree with you to some extent. But as Tansak says, you must visit Pattaya a number of times before you can really say you know it well enough to truly pass judgment.
It's my opinion that if you have a firm grasp of working Thai women, with a little effort you could find a fun, nice-looking woman in Pattaya. Granted, she will know most of the tricks of her trade, but that would not be an issue if you set her straight from the get go.
When not searching for [i]Khun Suai Mak,[/i] in the morning hours, one can hang out with the old guys down at the beach!
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Comfort from BKK to Pattaya
Anyone know of a private charter from BKK to Pattaya. Ive been trying to find one that includes a few girls, but I am coming up dry. I know its Thailand, so there has to be something of this nature.
Any info is appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Bloke]
I have been as far north as Mae Sai and south to Songklah so I have an idea of the real Thaialand. [/QUOTE]
What is "the real thailand"?
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]...I can’t imagine what the place would be like if someone ever got around to cleansing Pattaya of its unsightly expat and tourist population.[/QUOTE]
It would be empty, obviously.
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[QUOTE=Bloke]2. Japanese, Indian and Arab tourists help the reader understand the cultural nuances at work when they are in an alien environment and interact with the local populations. For example a mass of Japanese following a tour guide with a flag...get the picture? General Arab attitudes towards females...comprendez?[/QUOTE]Those whose come as busloads to Pattaya are no Japanese, but Chinese. Maybe Thai Chinese, but definatly no Japanese. Maybe for some there is no big difference.
Japanese don't come in bigger groups. I would even say that they are either rare in Pattaya. In Bangkok you can find more Japanese Tourists.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]Lets not forget the Koreans.......they get into the go-gos early to barfine the best girls.[/QUOTE]I do that too, but I'm not Korean.
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The real Thailand
[QUOTE=Amjeck]What is "the real thailand"?[/QUOTE]It's lots of things.
If you've eaten som tam and sticky rice with a roasted chicken quarter on a train, thats part of it.
If you've eaten dung beetles fried in home-made palm oil and coarse salt in a knobby wok over a tiny charcoal fire in a rustic little ceramic stove that you and some village kids spent all morning collecting from piles of nearly decomposed water buffalo dung with cold rice and your fingers as silverware you have been there.
Watching the moon set over a tiny pond half covered with gorgeously opened lillies in the mountains while you drink rice moonshine and eat dried fish and fresh papaya is another example.
The fireworks at Suhothai on the night of Loi Krathong is in there.
Watching some Thai guys beat the living shit out of an odious, obnoxious farang thug who is twice as big as the largest of them and who truly deserves it is not too far from it.
Being the only farang at a huge regional fair and being adopted by some locals, and eating and drinking and visiting the local brothel for a shag from a beautiful farm girl in a tiny cubicle while your new friends do the same on the other side of the cardboard walls for 200 baht could qualify.
Crying as you watch an impoverished child die of malaria before you and his mom who you just met at the bus station who couldn't afford the fare so you voluteered to help her get him to the hospital counts.
Realizing, with delight, that the the three little bumps next to the kwai lounging in the muddy water are the eyes and nose of her newborn calf is part of it.
It's lots of things, Amjeck.
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Peppermint:
Got here about 9:00 and every seat was taken. Ended up in the corner where I couldn't really see anything or get much of an experience. Took a walk to the bathroom and it looked like a lot of girls were working, some of them cute. The waiters are all guys for some reason, most probably gay, which isn't too enjoyable. Would like to try again. Maybe I need to show up at dinnertime?
Lollipop:
Only about 10-15 girls. 2 of them were cute enough to barfine. Mamasan is only 32 and was pretty cool to talk to. But when I asked for a girl who was dancing, I guess there weren't enough other girls to take her place, so I had to sit there and wait about 10 minutes or more until she finished dancing. When she finally sat down, she was bouncing all over in her chair and couldn't sit still. Seemed like she was on something maybe. So I left without her.
Airport club:
First of all, the waitresses are really hot. More so than the dancers. But they seem to know it. I couldn't tell if you can barfine them. Also a lot of fake tits among the dancers. As for the club itself, they try to cram way too much activity into a small space and it gets pretty claustrophobic. A lot of the customers are really douchey, and the staff seems to encourage that for some reason. Groups of drunk bros with their shirts unbuttoned all the way and their big bellies hanging out groping girls and throwing 20 bhats up in the air.
I liked one of the girls and was going to barfine her. The mamasan got involved as negotiator and quoted me 800 bhat for barfine, 300 for a room and 2000 ST for girl. I told her I didn't need a room and got it down to 1200 ST by talking to the girl instead of the mamasan. Was willing to pay the steep barfine, which seemed even steeper since it was 2AM. Handed over the money and the mamasan told me I had to pay the girl's 1200 bhat fee now too. I said no. She wouldn't budge. I appealed to the girl but she went along with it. So I said no again and took my barfine back and told the girl I was going to the discos and got up and left.
Is that really their policy or were they screwing with me? If that is their policy, wtf?
Lucifer's:
Wasn't really my thing. Almost everyone was sitting/standing at tables not mingling too much. Loud bad music. Couldn't find anywhere to hang out and lurk and look for a girl I wanted.
Insomnia/IU club (?) -- 2nd floor:
Lots of cute girls here from about 3AM to 5AM. Many of them gogo girls. No cover, no barfine. I ended up leaving with a girl from Baccara.
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[QUOTE=Naughty]It's lots of things.
If you've eaten som tam and sticky rice with a roasted chicken quarter on a train, thats part of it.
If you've eaten dung beetles fried in home-made palm oil and coarse salt in a knobby wok over a tiny charcoal fire in a rustic little ceramic stove that you and some village kids spent all morning collecting from piles of nearly decomposed water buffalo dung with cold rice and your fingers as silverware you have been there.
Watching the moon set over a tiny pond half covered with gorgeously opened lillies in the mountains while you drink rice moonshine and eat dried fish and fresh papaya is another example.
The fireworks at Suhothai on the night of Loi Krathong is in there.
Watching some Thai guys beat the living shit out of an odious, obnoxious farang thug who is twice as big as the largest of them and who truly deserves it is not too far from it.
Being the only farang at a huge regional fair and being adopted by some locals, and eating and drinking and visiting the local brothel for a shag from a beautiful farm girl in a tiny cubicle while your new friends do the same on the other side of the cardboard walls for 200 baht could qualify.
Crying as you watch an impoverished child die of malaria before you and his mom who you just met at the bus station who couldn't afford the fare so you voluteered to help her get him to the hospital counts.
Realizing, with delight, that the the three little bumps next to the kwai lounging in the muddy water are the eyes and nose of her newborn calf is part of it.
It's lots of things, Amjeck.[/QUOTE]
Can do a few of these things in Pattaya for sure. I'm not trying to suggest that there isn't more to Thailand outside of Pattaya, however. There is of course. The reality, though, is that Pattaya does represent "real thailand". It is one of the parts where the worst and ugliest of thais tend to congregate, but it is "real". It's a place where Thais really show their true colors. They're not hiding so much behind their smiles like they do in other parts of the country.
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[QUOTE=Bloke]
1. I am not ageist, I would criticise younger people who couldn't be bothered to make the slightest effort in terms of personal hygiene and appearance and generally are an eyesore to anyone who is unfortunate enough to pass by...
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A bigger eyesore is to see a farang spoil his bottom feeder to nice restaurants, shopping, gold shops, etc. Treating dirt like it's gold is really disturbing.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]A bigger eyesore is to see a farang spoil his bottom feeder to nice restaurants, shopping, gold shops, etc. Treating dirt like it's gold is really disturbing.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather treat what you call "bottom feeders" as a human being as I get more mileage that way.
And I have a pretty basic rule... any girl that spends two weeks or more with me (while I'm still banging short time and they stay at home or they come over after / before work for free fucks etc...) or repeats multiple trips for multiple days each trip gets a token of appreciation above and beyond.
I don't put them on a pedestal but since I'm no saint I sure have no right to judge them and treat them like a bottom feeder.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Airport club:
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I liked one of the girls and was going to barfine her. The mamasan got involved as negotiator and quoted me 800 bhat for barfine, 300 for a room and 2000 ST for girl. I told her I didn't need a room and got it down to 1200 ST by talking to the girl instead of the mamasan. Was willing to pay the steep barfine, which seemed even steeper since it was 2AM. Handed over the money and the mamasan told me I had to pay the girl's 1200 bhat fee now too. I said no. She wouldn't budge. I appealed to the girl but she went along with it. So I said no again and took my barfine back and told the girl I was going to the discos and got up and left.
Is that really their policy or were they screwing with me for some reason? If that is their policy, wtf?[/QUOTE]
I think the barfines have gotten ridiculous. And paying up front - I've seen it happen at other go gos too. Maybe the girls have gotten screwed out of money too many times. One scenario that comes to mind is if a guy explains what he wants and she says yes, but then in the room is 'too tired' or changes her mind and won't do it, I'm sure some guys have kicked them out with no dough.
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[QUOTE=The Scout]I think the barfines have gotten ridiculous. And paying up front - I've seen it happen at other go gos too. Maybe the girls have gotten screwed out of money too many times. One scenario that comes to mind is if a guy explains what he wants and she says yes, but then in the room is 'too tired' or changes her mind and won't do it, I'm sure some guys have kicked them out with no dough.[/QUOTE]
I'm willing to bet that guys get screwed over a lot more than girls do. The girls are the professionals that do this every day and have their whole acts and routines perfected. Most guys are just bumbling idiots on a vacation trying to have fun.
No way I'm paying a hefty barfine and then upfront for the girl on top of that.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]
No way I'm paying a hefty barfine and then upfront for the girl on top of that.[/QUOTE]
Yah, you should never pay upfront at a gogo. I think you were trying to be scammed. Airport is a pretty cut throat gogo. You gotta play really hard and stand your ground at that place.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck] I think you were trying to be scammed. [/QUOTE]
Actually he was trying NOT to be scammed.
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[QUOTE=The Scout]I think the barfines have gotten ridiculous. And paying up front - I've seen it happen at other go gos too.
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Personally ---------- I would never negotiate with Mamasam, it is none of her business how much I pay the girl or when I pay her, it is only her job to get the barfine.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]A bigger eyesore is to see a farang spoil his bottom feeder to nice restaurants, shopping, gold shops, etc. Treating dirt like it's gold is really disturbing.[/QUOTE]'Bottom feeder'? 'Dirt'? Maybe this country just isn't the place for you. Or maybe you're too good a person for this hobby?
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]I'd rather treat what you call "bottom feeders" as a human being as I get more mileage that way.
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Bottom feeders= 95% of the girls in pattaya (not thailand) working as pros. They are rude, obnoxious, loud, poor mannered, and spoiled. They are only good for hit and run, yet you see guys dumping excess cash on them and treating them like they are precious.
Lets not forget that these girls can't score good thai men, so they service the tourists. Where in society do they fit? Bottom.
Again seeing guys overly spoil these bottom feeders is more of an eyesore than old guys drinking on the beach!
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I think lavishing working girls whom you're already paying their going rate with expensive gifts and tips is equally as reprehensible as treating them like "bottom feeders".
Obviously many of the guys taking home some of these girls have never been with a girl as attractive as that before, and it makes them bonkers and they don't know how to act and start throwing money at them. Other guys have been hurt by women before and haven't gotten over it and so walk around wanting to treat prostitutes like garbage.
Both of these extremes ruin many good girls and give them a jaded attitude.
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Happy:
Decent bar. They were actually playing some really good house music instead of the standard lady gaga/black eyed peas 10 song playlist. It really seemed to perk everyone up, and a lot of the girls were genuinely dancing and having a good time. One thing I did notice when I looked around is that I didn't spot a single bargirl sitting with a guy. It was just a sea of guys staring at the stage. I took one of the cuter girls out of here. Rotten pussy stink but she was a good girl.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]They are rude, obnoxious, loud, poor mannered, and spoiled.[/QUOTE]
We obviously go for different types of girls, try to get away from beach road and walking street for a moment. I spend a lot of time in Thai and regulars can be found, most of the board has regulars. Sounds like you've been burnt, probably a few times like we all have. When my girls tell me stories about a guy did this or that for them, I laugh my arse off. And I agree these one trip wonders are hillarious. But I'll stick to my point, treating the girls like bottom feeders gets me no where, treating them like human beings works a hell of a lot better.
Treating them like humans the first day won't do that much, treating them like humans over time will get you very far.
[QUOTE=Evianist]I think lavishing working girls whom you're already paying their going rate with expensive gifts and tips is equally as reprehensible as treating them like "bottom feeders".[/QUOTE]
You also give me a good laugh... you are talking about taking a girl for few days and falling in love. I'm talking about treating girls as human beings and if I'm with a girl for a couple of months or see her for two / three straight weeks I have no issue to drop 300 USD on her for a friggin ring so sorry if that offends you. Of course if I'm with a girl for that long, she's stopped work, i'm not paying bar fines, and there's no daily rate.
If a 9,000 baht ring is too much for you then so be it. But do the friggin math, 10 days x 500 bar fine = 5000 baht which I'm not paying. I work out long term deals with my regulars, say 10 days and 10,000 baht when they usually can get 2 K to 4 K a night or if they are short time girls they can get 4 or more customers a day (these that are skilled enough or cute enough that can demand the pricing or more). So most guys are paying 20 K to girls (minimum) and 5 K bar fine compared to giving them 10 K cash and a 9 K ring. I'm saving 6 K and these girls feel good about themselves... gee that is so so so bad I should burn in hell for this??? And you know what,,, they still have what i give them when they sell the shit from the one hit wonders which makes me laugh even harder.
Ye judge me for for being reprehensible but really I'm saving 6,000 baht and make a girl feel good. Yeah OK I'm the stupid one...
Pattaya is too big, how anyone can say they are all bottom feeders is beyond me. Good girls can be found eventually, I agree 80% of Pattaya working girls have BF's. guys they regularly fuck (like me) or sponsors (usually some of you folks) and 95% lie, but once you get through those lies you can enjoy them. But you gotta stick in the game and play the game more then a one hit wonder.
Of course they lie, it's their frigging job. You think we are all handsum men and the best sex they ever had (Ok I am I know this as they tell me so) 5555 And out of those 5% that are left that are straight forward and honest 1% are cute enough to deal with. So you just gotta work your way through the bull shit (ko hok) to get to the truth and enjoy the girls.
Case in point, I have the apartment key card and room key for what I think (and other members on this board who have met her, Daddy07 for one) is a very attractive lady. She's 21. She has sponsors in four countries, she is a sexual dynamo and has the ability to sex 10 times a day if I want it with her, all three holes are open for me. And I can walk in her room at 4 am or 11 am or whenever I want and screw the hell out of her for free. I used to be able to do the same with her room mate but now she just got a new room mate so it will be fun to figure out this one in about one week.
So when she was at home (not pattaya) and asked for 3,000 baht last month with a promise to pay me next week after she gets back to pattaya I gave it to her without a question or hesitation (because she's always actually paid me back). Is that lavish? I've had unlimited sex with her for a few months now, repeated visits, free access to her room and every orifice on her body... Of course I'll drop baht on her.
You might call her a bottom feeder cuz of her job and she lies to you guys all day long but she and is getting good cash and sponsored by guys so I call her smarter then most American CEO's and me damn lucky cuz I'm tapping it for free.
Pattaya is TOO big... if you spend the time and effort you can find everything you want.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]You also give me a good laugh... you are talking about taking a girl for few days and falling in love. I'm talking about treating girls as human beings and if I'm with a girl for a couple of months or see her for two / three straight weeks I have no issue to drop 300 USD on her for a friggin ring so sorry if that offends you. Of course if I'm with a girl for that long, she's stopped work, i'm not paying bar fines, and there's no daily rate.
If a 9,000 baht ring is too much for you then so be it. But do the friggin math, 10 days x 500 bar fine = 5000 baht which I'm not paying. I work out long term deals with my regulars, say 10 days and 10,000 baht when they usually can get 2 K to 4 K a night or if they are short time girls they can get 4 or more customers a day (these that are skilled enough or cute enough that can demand the pricing or more). So most guys are paying 20 K to girls (minimum) and 5 K bar fine compared to giving them 10 K cash and a 9 K ring. I'm saving 6 K and these girls feel good about themselves... gee that is so so so bad I should burn in hell for this??? And you know what,,, they still have what i give them when they sell the shit from the one hit wonders which makes me laugh even harder.
Ye judge me for for being reprehensible but really I'm saving 6,000 baht and make a girl feel good. Yeah OK I'm the stupid one... [/quote]
Why buy her a ring though? She's not your wife and she's not your real girlfriend. If you want to give her something give her some money. Giving a hooker a ring is just goofy and makes you look pathetic.
You then go on to brag about how you're fucking all the best girls in Pattaya for free and they love you oh so much. Right.
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2 Baht's worth
I'll share my views of some of the places in Pat. Let the slagging begin. It's only my 2 baht's worth, and I'm no expert. Just experienced.
TQ; didn't know Steve Donovan had died. I've been in a rather isolated country for the past couple of years, and hadn't heard (no P4P there, so not worth mentioning). OK place to hang, not a flock of stunners, and the same music from the 70's that they've always played. Still my favorite daytime go-go. Told my buddy that place hasn't changed a bit from my first visit almost 20 years ago.
Happy; was always my "go-to" place for the stunners, but was somewhat underwhelmed this time. Probably my first time in years I haven't barfined a girl from Happy.
Peppermint; good also, lots of girls. No real head-turners, but plenty of cuties.
Insomnia disco; like this place a lot, but doesn't get going until well after midnight. Has a bevy of hotties late, like someone else mentioned, probably go-go girls after work. Hooked up with a young hottie who did not disappoint. Tried to find her a week later, but alas, had to choose some other hottie.
Marine disco; a good place, as it always has been for years. My preference is Insomnia, for a late-night disco.
Baccara; new place with quite a collection of the upper quality. Have taken back a couple from there, and was not disappointed. Baccara, Happy, Peppermint and Beach Club are all owned by the same owners, Mr. Mac and Mr. Gulp (sp?), who also own the local go-kart racing track at Mini-Siam (not Easy Kart). These four clubs always tend to have the hotter women, though this year Beach Club was also a bit disappointing. Those two owners seem to have the hook-up through the Mamasans as far as hiring the hotter women (and yes, prices reflect that).
I guess Coyotes has closed? Angel Witch had some entertaining shows, but no real stunners I'd like to go home with. Club Boesche' was a bust; disappointed. Beach Road girls have never been my thing, and so this year I walked the road a few times at night to check it out. I'm scared. I know some of you have had good luck there. Wasn't my thing though.
OK, my 2 baht's worth. No expert. You can tell me to f off now.
J37
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Why buy her a ring though? She's not your wife and she's not your real girlfriend. If you want to give her something give her some money. Giving a hooker a ring is just goofy and makes you look pathetic..[/QUOTE]It's their savings account for later, if they get cash they spend it and they know it, they saving it up for rainy days to go pawn it off etc... I give them the cash to go buy their own thing could be necklace or pendant or whatever they want.
We all have our own ways to get what we want. I treat girls nice, and some people must have a self confidence issue so that they must consider others dirt to be able to achieve some sort of fake superiority.
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Not always. Not everywhere.
[QUOTE=Diceman]. Being "adopted" by some locals and eating and drinking means you foot the bill, we always pay here.[/QUOTE]In tiny little villages up in Isaan and the north, ones that aren't even mentioned in Lonely Planet or any other guidebook, you can do all these things and so many more and then have your offer to pay sternly refused. It has happened to me many times.
Once I got off the train in Surin the day after the elephant roundup. Literally hundreds of elephants were milling around the plaza that is right outside the train station there, waiting for a train that was to take them back to their homes.
I walked around in the sea of huge (and some small ones, too) animals, the only long nose in sight. One of the mahouts reached down and pulled me up on to his animal with him. He was from Ayuthaya. I had about 3/4th of a large bottle of Mekhong in my daypack. He and I and a few of the other mahouts passed it around and ate bags of boiled fresh peanuts. Spent about an hour up there using a combo of my very poor Thai and Souay language skills, a dictionary, and sign language to joke around. It was a gas. All I "paid" was the bottle. Very cheap date!
I didn't like seeing how hard they hit their beasts though. They use what look like two pound sledgehammers to whack them on the top of the head REALLY hard. I guess you need to hit 'them that hard to get their attention.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]It's their savings account for later, if they get cash they spend it and they know it, they saving it up for rainy days to go pawn it off etc... I give them the cash to go buy their own thing could be necklace or pendant or whatever they want.
We all have our own ways to get what we want. I treat girls nice, and some people must have a self confidence issue so that they must consider others dirt to be able to achieve some sort of fake superiority.[/QUOTE]You can come up with whatever BS excuses you want, but if you're buying a girl a ring or a pendant it's because you've become delusional that she likes you as a real boyfriend. She probably puts it on when she comes to meet you and you see it and get all cheeseball. Let me remind you: she's a hooker.
If you want to pay her in a way that doesn't involve cash, pay her rent (directly to her landlord), her electricity bill, that sort of thing. A ring she can pawn for cash in a second.
Or if she really does mean something to you, just be there for her as a human being. Talk to her, listen to her if she's had a bad day. What does a ring do for her besides sit on her finger?
As I said before, there's a middle ground between treating girls like dirt and acting like a guy who's never gotten laid before by lavishing a hooker who's not your real girlfriend with unnecessary gifts.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]We obviously go for different types of girls, try to get away from beach road and walking street for a moment...[/QUOTE]Well, when I'm in Pattaya, I almost exclusively select my girls among the freelancers from Beach Road and Walking Street, and about all (I mean, those that I choose, but they are not that rare) are very polite, respectuous, friendly and certainly not "rude, obnoxious, loud, poor mannered" nor spoiled.
I must admit that I often prefer the shy ones, and I spend a little time chatting with them before making (or not) a deal, so, that helps a lot to avoid the less interesting ones (at least, according to me) and the too hardened pros.
I too treat the P4P girls respectfully, but not as if they were really my regular girlfriends. I don't want to get too much involved emotionally with them. It's too much trouble sooner or later, IMHO.
About 10 years ago, on my second or third trip to Pattaya, a girl that I've met on my previous visit wanted to be with me during the last 10 days of my stay. She did not want any money from me, but just a one-baht (the unit of weight for gold = 15.2 grams approximately) jewellery (a necklace) that I bought on the last day of my stay. At that time (year 2000), her necklace cost me just a little bit more than 6000 baht. She could have earned 10000 baht (1000 baht LT per day) instead (and could have bought herself a more expensive gold jewel), so, it was a bargain, but she just wanted to be able to say (to her friends and family, for instance) that I have offered her this necklace.
I am not proud about it, but I've had a very difficult time on the next trip to Pattaya to get rid of her. This girl considered that I was her boyfriend then, even if I never sponsored her (nor any other girl by the way), just because I offered her (following her own suggestion) a gold jewel (not even a ring).
Therefore, I recommend to pay the P4P girls with money, and to not offer them any gold jewellery (if they really want one, they can buy it with the money that you pay for their services) or anything that could make them believe that you want to be their boyfriend (at least, if you don't want to be too much emotionally involved with these girls).
Be careful with freebies too in Thailand, especially if you don't want to have any commitment with the local girls: more often than not (at least, according to my own experience), freebies are not really "free" at the end of the day or may get you into trouble sooner or later.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV] Sounds like you've been burnt, probably a few times like we all have. When my girls tell me stories about a guy did this or that for them, I laugh my arse off. And I agree these one trip wonders are hillarious. But I'll stick to my point, treating the girls like bottom feeders gets me no where, treating them like human beings works a hell of a lot better.
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You're missing the point.
No, I havent' been burnt.
My comment is about how unsightly it is to see low level trashy type girls in PATTAYA(bottom feeders of thai society) being treated so well by foreign men. I mean when you see guys taking them shopping in public, buying them stuff in public, taking them to movies in public. Treating them exceptionally well when they are not exceptional.
I wouldn't be caught dead spoiling a working girl in public.
That is my opinion.
Again, old guys drinking on the beach is less of an eyesore
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[QUOTE=Diceman]Just like the guy says, they are hookers, you seem to think your the top guy banging a girl for free, and her room mate etc, whats that all about? What you think we are to them? ATMs simple as that, if you think by giving her a ring you are commanding some sort of respect, like the guy says your dilusional, these girls don't even love there own kids never mind giving a toss for us, they give there children away and walk away and fuck around, how you think your special to them? Wake up guy.[/QUOTE]
This is an interesting post and I'd have to agree with a lot of it.
I'd like to add, It's not a big deal or uncommon to get free sex from thai prostitutes. In fact most of the thai guys fuck them for free aswell. The fools are the ones who lavish them with gifts and give them lots of cash. Thai guys are laughing as they spend the money that was just given to their girlfriends(sex worker) by the foreigner.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]A bigger eyesore is to see a farang spoil his bottom feeder to nice restaurants, shopping, gold shops, etc. Treating dirt like it's gold is really disturbing.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of "bottom feeders!"
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[QUOTE=Diceman]... these girls don't even love there own kids never mind giving a toss for us, they give there children away ...[/QUOTE]
Children are usually considered an asset by most girls in Thailand, not a burden. Later, they are the ones who will take care of their family elders. Sure, it's often the grandparents who raise the offspring of many working girls, but it does not mean that the girls don't love their children. I don't believe that a majority of them would really "give their children away", even if it might happen sometimes, but once again, almost all the girls that I've met so far in the Land of Smiles have a good mentality and a pleasant personality and would not do such a harsh thing (as always, your mileage may vary). I don't treat them like my girlfriends, but most (at least, according to my own experience) are quite decent and honest human beings, so, I don't treat them like shit either.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'd like to add, It's not a big deal or uncommon to get free sex from thai prostitutes. In fact most of the thai guys fuck them for free aswell. The fools are the ones who lavish them with gifts and give them lots of cash. Thai guys are laughing as they spend the money that was just given to their girlfriends(sex worker) by the foreigner.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they shouldn't laugh too hard if their girlfriends are getting regularly plowed by other dudes.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Maybe they shouldn't laugh too hard if their girlfriends are getting regularly plowed by other dudes.[/QUOTE]
Most of them don't care, as they are more often their pimp than their "boyfriend", actually.
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[QUOTE=Naughty]you can do all these things and so many more and then have your offer to pay sternly refused. It has happened to me many times.[/QUOTE]It's happened to me all over Thailand. In fact I can tell you exactly the last time a group of strangers gave me food and drink and then assumed I'd pay for it: 1984, Chiangmai. And they were the kind of people who probably would have done it to a Central Thai too.
The place I keep hearing about here recently, where farang always get stuck with the bill, where working girls are all scum who don't even love their own children, etc. etc. feels like some kind of farang khii nok alternative reality to the Thailand where I live. Pattaya of course can be pretty nasty -- truly a place where Thai culture meets farang and brings out the worst is both -- but I feel sorry for anyone who really believes that it's the true Thailand. With an attitude like that, no wonder they keep having bad experiences.
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[QUOTE=Betong] Pattaya of course can be pretty nasty -- truly a place where Thai culture meets farang and brings out the worst in both -- [/QUOTE]
This is so true!
It's like a jungle and if you don't harden up you get eaten alive. You really get to see what thai people are capable of in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]You really get to see what thai people are capable of in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]And Westerners too. Some of the idiotic behavior in that town is hard to believe. At least it's never boring!
A friend of mine likes to say that the expats of Pattaya always remind him of a prison population. I thought that was a bit rough -- plenty of decent Westerners live there -- but there are days on the beach road or at the gym or in some bar when I look around and think, yeah, he's got a point.
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[QUOTE=Betong]And Westerners too. Some of the idiotic behavior in that town is hard to believe. At least it's never boring!.[/QUOTE]
This is for sure, no matter our styles I really don't care much whatever works for you and makes others get it up.
But if anyone is in town the Pattaya Music Festival is March 19 - 21 and you can usually pick up some out of town girls and some freebies or such. I know quite a few office workers (under 26) who come down every year and that is their weekend to go crazy.
Interesting time to be in town. And yes of course I'll be around :D
[url]http://www.vacations-thailand.com/the-news/62-pattaya-music-festival-2010.html[/url]
[url]http://teakdoor.com/thailands-festivals-and-celebrations/46326-pattaya-music-festival-march-19-21-a.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]This is so true!
It's like a jungle and if you don't harden up you get eaten alive. You really get to see what thai people are capable of in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
Is it fuck. It's a downmarket tourist resort with thousands of prostitutes, where you go to cherry pick it's delights according to your personal desires and circumstances.
If you have mental health issues or you want to make money in this town, there are other forums that are far better equipped to deal with you. And good luck.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Most of them don't care, as they are more often their pimp than their "boyfriend", actually.[/QUOTE]
I even know a few Farangs who live off their "girlfriend"'s Farang money in Pattaya. Thanks to 2-weeks-millionaires and sponsors they're living a lazy life in a tropical beach resort. Not my cup of tea but I'd rather be one of them than one of those who western-union their cash looking forward to their next 2-weeks-trip...
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Maybe they shouldn't laugh too hard if their girlfriends are getting regularly plowed by other dudes.[/QUOTE]
Why shouldn't they? Are you into one-man-girls? Or a one-girl-man yourself?
Being (possibly) the only one who gets the honey without forking over money sure is satisfaction enough for most of us/them.
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Devil Dan
The "Eden Club" in Pattaya is Devil Dan.
It's much better than Eden in Bangkok (nicer Girls)
Price and everything else. The same 1.5h 3600.
Not cheap, but really best Sex with everything included. 2 Girls
For cheap Sex Beach Road 500. A Shot / and then from Time to Time something like Devil Dan. They really empty your small Friend.
I shot 3 Times in 1.5h, because this Girls are soooooo hot and they know the Job!
Good Luck
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[QUOTE=Beno69]The "Eden Club" in Pattaya is Devil Dan.
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Hummm ... and all this time I thought it was Devil's Den. :)
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[QUOTE=Diceman] This is one of my reasons for short time, because of all the drama with them, and I've read reports of guys on this board going on about intelligent girls, or "educated thais" there is no such thing, they are mainly pretty thick, I mean, has anyone ever been in a thai bookshop? Have a look, what you will see are basically cartoons, and picture books. I never seen such an immature race of people, grown women, prancing about and giggling, I've rarely had an in depth conversation with a thai, and as for talking to a thai on a telephone, ha ha forget it. And these guys living here going on about, "my missus" this "my missus" that. Get a grip and realise hey, they are prostitutes, plain and simple.[/QUOTE]
You make some brilliant points however I am sure there are "educated Thais" but we are not going to meet them in beerbars, as sex tourists we will mainly meet the "bottom feeders" of Thai society.
I do agree that some guys need to "get a grip", we should never forget that these girls are prostitutes, nothing more, nothing less.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]Lets get it all into perspective, we are walking atms
...I've read reports of guys on this board going on about intelligent girls, or "educated thais" there is no such thing, they are mainly pretty thick, I mean, has anyone ever been in a thai bookshop?[/QUOTE]
Diceman, you are making inaccurate generalizations from your own perhaps not so broad experience. What you say does apply to the world most visitors see, but not to Thais as a whole.
I also only go short time with prostitutes (though I find them to be mostly very nice people, I have no interest in further interactions), but in my professional life, dating, and friendships I know many very intelligent, informed, and well-educated middle and upper-middle class Thais. You are quite right that most Thais are very shallow minded - but no more so than the majority of Americans or Englishmen. I've lived here for years, have quite close friendships, never pay for anything with normal people (always 'American shares' or 'Dutch Treat' unless the Thai boss or institution pays). I even find that the majority of working class people undercharge me or at least never overcharge me for services - for example seamstresses, repairmen and the like always charge me the same or less than my Thai friends pay.
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Passing Misjudgment!
If a man chooses to splurge his limited funds on a WG and elevate her to almost royal status, why would that concern anyone else? It's his life; let him live it the way he chooses. Most of the males I see with these girls appear to be on their second, third or perhaps even final conjugal-type relationships and couldn’t care less about what the world thinks about them. If they can achieve happiness and contentment from their relationships with WGs, something they most likely did not achieve in their previous relationship(s) with those respectable middle or high class educated women from their homeland, I say more power to them. In the end we are all deficient in certain areas of our lives. Live and let live gentlemen!
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]If a man chooses to splurge his limited funds on a WG and elevate her to almost royal status, why would that concern anyone else? It's his life; let him live it the way he chooses.
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Yes, you are correct however some guys need to be reminded that in the vast majority of cases they are simply seen as ATM's -------- if they had no money they would soon find their "girlfriend" disappear, sad but true.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]If a man chooses to splurge his limited funds on a WG and elevate her to almost royal status, why would that concern anyone else?[/QUOTE]
Because it creates high price inflation, takes most of the attractive girls off the market and gives the rest of them attitude.
Why bother providing decent service to the guy only willing to give you 1500/ST when you have a couple other guys handing over their ATM cards?
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]Yes, you are correct however some guys need to be reminded that in the vast majority of cases they are simply seen as ATM's -------- if they had no money they would soon find their "girlfriend" disappear, sad but true.[/QUOTE]
Reminded by whom and how, people ranting on a sex board, how would they get the message? They probably already know this; you and I don't know their motivation for being in such relationships. To many on this board it’s all about money, to those men it may be as I said for their happiness or contentment. Also in your homeland, if you had no money would your average girlfriends stick around or would they disappear too?
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Reminded by whom and how, people ranting on a sex board, how would they get the message? They probably already know this; you and I don't know their motivation for being in such relationships. To many on this board it’s all about money, to those men it may be as I said for their happiness or contentment. Also in your homeland, if you had no money would your average girlfriends stick around or would they disappear too?[/QUOTE]
I sense that maybe you have a "girlfriend" in Thailand, if so I am sure she is different from the rest.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]I sense that maybe you have a "girlfriend" in Thailand, if so I am sure she is different from the rest.[/QUOTE]
Nice attempt but you sensed wrong, I'm just providing the contrarian POV.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Because it creates high price inflation, takes most of the attractive girls off the market, and gives them attitude.
Why bother providing decent service to the guy only willing to give you 1500/ST when you have a couple other guys handing over their ATM cards?[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, the old ISG default price war argument. I would ask you to provide the board with your empirical data to support this claim but know from experience that you cannot.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Ah yes, the old ISG default price war argument. I would ask you to provide the board with your empirical data to support this claim but know from experience that you cannot.[/QUOTE]
Similarly, I ask you to provide the board with some empirical data disproving the claim, but I know you cannot given that neither of us have access to a database containing years of hooker receipts.
If you don't think guys who throw money and jewelry around cause price inflation you need to take a basic economics course.
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The sum of the equation
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]...
I do agree that some guys need to "get a grip", we should never forget that these girls are prostitutes, nothing more, nothing less.[/QUOTE]And, to complete your sociological equation, the people who frequent their workplaces and pay for their services are just hoar mongers, nothing less and nothing more?
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Similarly, I ask you to provide the board with some empirical data disproving the claim, but I know you cannot given that neither of us have access to a database containing years of hooker receipts.
If you don't think guys who throw money and jewelry around cause price inflation you need to take a basic economics course.[/QUOTE]
You are the one making the claim so it would be appropriate for you to support the claim you are making. I can't prove a negative even though I have taken both basic and advanced economic courses.:o
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[QUOTE=Fon Tok]And, to complete your sociological equation, the people who frequent their workplaces and pay for their services are just hoar mongers, nothing less and nothing more?
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Yes, you are absolutely correct ------ apart from your spelling of WH0RE that is.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]I've read reports of guys on this board going on about intelligent girls, or "educated thais" there is no such thing, they are mainly pretty thick, I mean, has anyone ever been in a thai bookshop?[/QUOTE]Well I have and I've found them full of intelligent books and, for that matter, intelligent people. Could you please clarify which aspect of Thai bookstores you find lacking? From your tone we have to assume that you do read Thai and will therefore have an intelligent criticism, right?
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[QUOTE=Evianist]
If you don't think guys who throw money and jewelry around cause price inflation you need to take a basic economics course.[/QUOTE]
I don't think so. On the contrary. I regularly get freebies from sponsored or overpayed girls. If they weren't sponsored it'd be much harder for me to get them for free...
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]On the contrary. I regularly get freebies from sponsored or overpayed girls.[/QUOTE]Hey, I wonder if on the working girls forum they say things like, 'Come on, stop giving away freebies! You're driving the price down for all of us!'
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[QUOTE=Betong]Hey, I wonder if on the working girls forum they say things like, 'Come on, stop giving away freebies! You're driving the price down for all of us!'[/QUOTE]
:)
Fortunately for us, there does not seem to be any bargirls board out there. Yet.
I've always found that Thais do not really take advantage, in general, of all the great opportunities Internet offers. They like it bling-bling with loads of flash animations, they "play" internet, they don't really get its essence: information, knowledge!
Thai bargirls got the communication thingy though as the wide use of instant messenging goes to show. But would there be any bargirls instant messenging without sponsors western-unioning? Probably a lot less...
I can see the flame coming for this generalisation but I'm gonna take the risk ;)
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Look yourself in the mirror , farang...
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]Yes, you are correct however some guys need to be reminded that in the vast majority of cases they are simply seen as ATM's. If they had no money they would soon find their "girlfriend" disappear, sad but true.[/QUOTE]Yet who are the losers but those who ***** and ***** and referring to Thai WGs as bottom feeders and yet seek pleasure from them because they could not get laid at home. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. They are around because of you losers, self-indulgent ***** seeking holier than thou hypocrites. Don't visit Thailand if it so offends you. Don't judge others unless you are prepared to judge yourself.
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[QUOTE=Betong]
A friend of mine likes to say that the expats of Pattaya always remind him of a prison population. I thought that was a bit rough -- plenty of decent Westerners live there -- but there are days on the beach road or at the gym or in some bar when I look around and think, yeah, he's got a point.[/QUOTE]
I've met a few expats in Pattaya who have actually served time before. So, maybe there is some truth to that. At least there are *****s you can screw. Don't know if you get that in prison or not.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]I don't think so. On the contrary. I regularly get freebies from sponsored or overpayed girls. If they weren't sponsored it'd be much harder for me to get them for free...[/QUOTE]
Sponsored girls do tend to give it up for free a lot. If you're young and cool it shouldn't be a prob to get some freebies. Keep scoring the freebies as long as you can. The huge score are freebies in the non-p4p scene, however. Lot more work, but reward is a nice clean pussy that hasn't been hit by everyone in town.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]If a man chooses to splurge his limited funds on a WG and elevate her to almost royal status, why would that concern anyone else? It's his life; let him live it the way he chooses. Most of the males I see with these girls appear to be on their second, third or perhaps even final conjugal-type relationships and couldn’t care less about what the world thinks about them. If they can achieve happiness and contentment from their relationships with WGs, something they most likely did not achieve in their previous relationship(s) with those respectable middle or high class educated women from their homeland, I say more power to them. In the end we are all deficient in certain areas of our lives. Live and let live gentlemen![/QUOTE]
I agree it is his money and he should spend however he wishes. I as a monger, however, have the right to my opinion based on his actions.
Guys who spoil sex workers are fools!
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Cost inflation and Attitude change
[QUOTE=Evianist]Similarly, I ask you to provide the board with some empirical data disproving the claim, but I know you cannot given that neither of us have access to a database containing years of hooker receipts.
If you don't think guys who throw money and jewelry around cause price inflation you need to take a basic economics course.[/QUOTE]Here is something that recently happened to me: I took a newbie(2 weeks in Pattaya, 5 guys deep)ST 3 days in a row last week. On the 4 day I wanted to ST her again and she got all (kii jai noi), cranky whinny on me. She begged for me to take her long time and take her to a movie or out to dinner and let her stay with me the night. Why the change of attitude all of the sudden? Well, because her friend gets LT all the time(in fact her friend had just called her while on LT from some nice restaurant) and gets spoiled by johns, and now she wants the same treatment from me. I did ST her again and the ride was pretty lame because she was upset on not getting the LT spoil treatments, so now she is off the list.
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[quote=amjeck]here is something that recently happened to me: i took a newbie(2 weeks in pattaya, 5 guys deep)st 3 days in a row last week. on the 4 day i wanted to st her again and she got all (kii jai noi), cranky whinny on me. she begged for me to take her long time and take her to a movie or out to dinner and let her stay with me the night. why the change of attitude all of the sudden? well, because her friend gets lt all the time(in fact her friend had just called her while on lt from some nice restaurant) and gets spoiled by johns, and now she wants the same treatment from me. i did st her again and the ride was pretty lame because she was upset on not getting the lt spoil treatments, so now she is off the list.[/quote]
agreed, they can get _mo ho_ if a peer is getting something and they are not. seems at times its all about with keeping up with the joneses. especially with cute, young things.
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Originally Posted by Run Mann
If a man chooses to splurge his limited funds on a WG and elevate her to almost royal status, why would that concern anyone else? It's his life; let him live it the way he chooses. Most of the males I see with these girls appear to be on their second, third or perhaps even final conjugal-type relationships and couldn't care less about what the world thinks about them. If they can achieve happiness and contentment from their relationships with WGs, something they most likely did not achieve in their previous relationship(s) with those respectable middle or high class educated women from their homeland, I say more power to them. In the end we are all deficient in certain areas of our lives. Live and let live gentlemen!
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I agree it is his money and he should spend however he wishes. I as a monger, however, have the right to my opinion based on his actions.
Guys who spoil sex workers are fools![/QUOTE]If you look back on Samui and Phuket 15 years ago, everything was reasonably priced, visitors were not overcharged, and basically, locals were incredibly nice, seeing tourism as a great money maker and very happy to give good service. These days, I wouldn't touch Samui or Phuket with a 10 foot pole, horribly overpriced food, transport, and all else, and the service is fake and interested in only one thing. Most of this is due to years of tourists with fat wallets and a live and let live attitude not caring about what anything cost or attempting to understand the local economy or local prices.
A bargirl asked me recently why farangs living here tended not to pay as much as others. I told her that 1000 baht was a huge amount of money, it can buy 30 meals, and she nodded in agreement. I still get plenty of good mileage, but yes, all the spoiling by "overpaying" has led to attitudes and certainly does concern all who are involved.
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Anyone else see the brawl that spilled out of Marine Disco last night?
The highligh/lowlight being the thai security guy punching a russian girl right in the face
Some more gogo reviews:
What's up:
Best gogo I've ever been to. Cool mamasan. Hot girls. Not too crowded since it's off the main road. Stage, bathtub, girls swinging from the ceiling on rings.
Silver Star, Casanovy, Iron Club, Beach Club:
zzzzzzzzzzzz
Living Dolls:
I sat down and shortly after one of the girls introduced herself and was soon sitting in my lap. She asked for a ladydrink and I agreed. She took my ladydrink money (140 Bhat) and was gone about 10 minutes before finally coming back with my change and a shot of tequila. She sat down for about 30 seconds and then took the shot. Stayed there another 30 seconds and then pointed at another table and said something about friends and got up and went off. Did not come back.
Sat there for a few minutes not knowing what was going on and then realized the girl took my ladydrink money and then sat with me for 1 minute before ditching me. Grabbed one of the waitresses and explained and the waitress kept saying she couldn't help me now that it already happened. Finally she called the girl over and they talked for a minute and then they both laughed and the girl went up to dance on stage. That laugh they shared pissed me off quite a bit, though I never raised my voice, and I asked to speak to the mamasan. The waitress tried to cover it up with the mamasan and said the girl was just going to dance and then would be back. The mamasan blew me off and walked away. I told the waitress she was not a good lady and she got offended and protested for a while. I asked to speak to the owner of the bar. The waitress eventually walked off after unsuccessfully trying to convince me that she wasn't a bad lady.
Called over another waitress and tried to explain but this one didn't understand and thought I wanted to buy the girl a ladydrink and called her off the stage and she sat next to me. I asked to speak to the owner but the waitress didn't understand that word so I asked for the mamasan again. This time I actually got to explain to her what happened and said I wanted my ladydrink money. I don't remember what she said or did but not much. The girl was still sitting next to me and then she started going on about how another table was buying her a lot of drinks and I need to think of her and she's just trying to make money for her family and 140 bhat is no big deal and on and on. I told her that's fine but I paid for a ladydrink and she sat for 1 minute and then left. I asked to speak to the owner or for my money. She eventually offered me 100 bhat and I took it and got out of there.
This combined with Airport Club trying to charge me for the lady fee upfront and I'm starting to think pattaya gogos are ripoff joints. I couldn't care less about the ladydrink money, what irked me was her belief that she could just take it and walk off and look for more customers and I'd just sit there and not say anything. The waitress doing nothing and laughing with the girl and then the mamasan blowing me off was giving me bloodlust. I'm a quiet dude and normally don't cause any problems.
So I think I'm going to stick to the discos. After Dolls I went to Insomnia Club again and pulled another unassuming girl standing quietly off to the side that no one else noticed and had a great time.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]
Living Dolls:
I sat down and shortly after one of the girls introduced herself and was soon sitting in my lap. She asked for a ladydrink and I agreed. She took my ladydrink money (140 Bhat) and was gone about 10 minutes before finally coming back with my change and a shot of tequila. She sat down for about 30 seconds and then took the shot. Stayed there another 30 seconds and then pointed at another table and said something about friends and got up and went off. Did not come back.
Sat there for a few minutes not knowing what was going on and then realized the girl took my ladydrink money and then sat with me for 1 minute before ditching me.
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Interesting story -------- personally I don't buy ladydrinks unless I intend to barfine the girl, I have had a similar experience a few times in Bangkok, some girls are mercenary, it seems that Pattaya is going the same way as Bangkok, maybe we should stick to freelancers and beerbars.
You went to a lot of trouble to get a refund, personally I would have put it down to experience, life is too short.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]You went to a lot of trouble to get a refund, personally I would have put it down to experience, life is too short.[/QUOTE]
I've let a lot of little ripoffs go, as I'm sure we all have. The way this girl did it was just so cocky and unapologetic that I felt like making a stand.
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Reward and incentive
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]
You went to a lot of trouble to get a refund, personally I would have put it down to experience, life is too short.[/QUOTE]
The more people put it down to experience, the more it will escalate.
Before buying a LD, I would always a have a little 5 minute play to test the attitude. A LD should, in my opinion, be half a reward and half an incentive for the future.
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[QUOTE=Spanish Main]The more people put it down to experience, the more it will escalate.
Before buying a LD, I would always a have a little 5 minute play to test the attitude. A LD should, in my opinion, be half a reward and half an incentive for the future.[/QUOTE]
She was grinding my groin with her ass and took her tits out and put my hands on them, so it was a reward for that and an incentive for her to keep doing it.
Normally I only buy a LD for someone I think I want to barfine.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've met a few expats in Pattaya who have actually served time before. So, maybe there is some truth to that. At least there are *****s you can screw. Don't know if you get that in prison or not.[/QUOTE]
I expect that you do, but the downside is, they generally need a shave and have too much bone in the meat. Other downside is that you yourself might be the ho that other prisoners get to screw.
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Are working girls mercenary?
[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab] , I have had a similar experience a few times in Bangkok, some girls are mercenary, it seems that Pattaya is going the same way as Bangkok, [/QUOTE]Are some bargirls and gogo girls mercenary? It looks likely as they are prostitutes.
Did you realize it, didn't you?
Italy 1974
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Are working girls mercenary?
Is the POPE CATHOLIC?? :)
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2041 - I agree some of the girls need a shave :)
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[QUOTE=Italy 1974]Are some bargirls and gogo girls mercenary? It looks likely as they are prostitutes.
Did you realize it, didn't you?
Italy 1974
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Not all Thai prostitutes are mercenary -------- however more and more are going in that direction.
Visit Angel Witch or the Rainbow bars in Bangkok and you will see what I mean.
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BR Ning
I've already posted a couple of pics of Ning in the Photo section.
After this report I'll post some more to go with this report.
Ning is a BR girl I first rented about 2 years ago.
I've never had her phone number until this visit (January). I would just run into her now and then at BR.
Since the first time, and ever since she has been a BJ only gir.
She is tiny. 25 years old, but looks like a schoolgirl. First time I met her, I asked if she can give a good BJ. She said "yes", and was true to her word.
I've found few women can give a BJ to completion using mouth only. Most do a BJ/HJ combination.
Ning does me great, BJ only, to CIM. Very nice.
Only costs 500BT.
This session: Ning sent me a text saying she has just come back from a week with Mother, and has no money after buying everyone gifts. I say, come on over. Ning proceeds to drive herself from Pattaya to Jomtien and knocks on my door about 20 minutes later.
How's that for service?
I tell her I want to do photos. No problem
I want to fuck her ass. No problem.
I can't believe I'll get it in as she is so tiny.
Well, the rest of the story is contained in the photos. She was very good about pausing so I could get the pic I wanted. Anal was no problem. Shot on her face so I could capture the money shot.
I was going to give her 1000BT because of the extra anal and photo requests and free transport, but I decided to really give her a treat as she has treated me so well for so long, so I gave her 1500BT. She was very very pleased. Instant relief for her money shortage.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Sat there for a few minutes not knowing what was going on and then realized the girl took my ladydrink money and then sat with me for 1 minute before ditching me.[/QUOTE]
I don't let this pass either. I've never had to push too hard to get those drinks cancelled. But I try to make sure that a mamasan is seeing what's going on (e.g. me patiently waiting with 2 drinks in front of me).
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A long weekend in Pattaya
Last weekend, I visited Pattaya for the first time. I had been collecting information on ISG about this particular destination in Thailand for some time and was eager to check it out. So as to make it all the more enjoyable, I invited a friend who shares our interest in the hobby but had little information on the scene in Thailand.
My first impression of Pattaya was that, apart from packing an outstandingly large concentration of working girls in a relatively small area, the city has the most open scene I have encountered so far. I have been to other mongering destinations in Thailand (Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Phuket, Ko Samui) and elsewhere, but never found any other place so openly sex-oriented as this city. In my experience, bordellos, saunas and girl bars are either sparsely located within otherwise touristy areas (as in Shanghai or Hong Kong), concentrated in shady neighborhoods (as in some areas of Bangkok) or even situated in industrial zones or in the countryside, far from major urban areas (like some of the best FKK clubs in Germany). Even in Changping, Dongguan province, hailed as the ultimate mongering destination in China (and for good reason), the action takes place inside hotels and sauna clubs, with no colorful neon signs outside bars or obvious street scene.
In Pattaya, though, everything happens pretty much in your face. Girls are available everywhere – on the street, in the bars, in the go-go joints, in the discos. Mingled with all that, a great number of foreign tourists. Not only fellow mongers, but also families, old couples and – at least during the particular weekend we were there – a large array of Eastern European beauties in tiny shorts and sexy dresses. With all this energy mix, the vibe of this place couldn’t be anything else but awesome!
We arrived early on Saturday and, once the night came, went out hunting. We first visited a few go-go bars on Soi 15 and were less than impressed with the selection of girls on either Babydolls or Shark. Ended up choosing two girls from Roxy, on Walking Street. Mine was by far the most beautiful girl in the bar, with very fair skin, beautiful features (she actually looked Japanese), shapely boobs and a round, firm ass. Her name was Paan and she said she was 21. I was so much struck by her attractiveness that I forgot to read the signs of trouble – however obvious they were. She asked for THB 2000 short time. It seemed too much, so I said I would agree only if she would stay with me for two hours. Then, she said I should pay her in advance, something I’ve been long enough in the road to fall for. After some back and forth, and a little help from the mamasan (actually, a ladyboy whose main job, apparently, is to push you into buying lady-drinks), she agreed to stay for two hours and to be paid after the deed. The mamasan told me the girl was being cautious because a previous client had not paid her. That alone should have sent me the right message (no payment usually means poor performance), but still I didn’t listen.
My friend also made his choice and we decided to head back to the hotel. I paid the barfine for my girl (THB 600) and we left. On the way back to our car, she asked me why didn’t I get one of the short-time hotels around Walking Street. I said we’d be more comfortable in my hotel room, but that was another good indication of how fast she wanted to get rid of me. I mentioned the name of my hotel (Dusit D2 Baraquda) and she said, “Oh, my sister works there”, but she was actually referring to Dusit resort, up at the opposite end of Beach road, on north Pattaya.
Paan was indeed stunning, and I was immediately aroused once we arrived in my room and she undressed. Curvy body, beautiful nipples, soft skin. However, as you all can imagine by now, she had a bit of an attitude. She wouldn’t do a proper BJ, no matter how much I insisted, and kept trying to hurry me into putting a condom and get it over with. Once inside her, she complained that I was taking too long to come and did not want me playing with her back door. Still, I managed to get my thumb inside her tight ass while doing her doggy style. When I tried to say that she had a great ass, she retorted: “If you like ass so much, why don’t you get a ladyboy?”. Once I came, we went for a shower together. After, she took a towel, dried herself up and begun to dress up. I mentioned that she had agreed to stay for two hours and we were there for just about one hour, to which she replied “But I want to leave now”.
By now, I had had my release and had less to lose in confronting her poor attitude. I said, “You want to go, it’s fine, you are free to go. Here’s THB 1000, half of what we agreed for half the time we agreed”, and left the money on a table. She was so pissed that she left the room without taking her money. Once at the aisle, outside my room, she made sure I noticed she was taking note of my room number and went towards my friend’s room to try and get her girlfriend to leave as well. I had to stop her, standing in her way and telling her that our problem was our concern only and we should not interfere with my friend’s fun time. Then she said “This is why I don’t like to go with older men, there is always a problem”, to which I replied, “you don’t like older men, you shouldn’t be in this business”. After a while, a little more collected, she asked me if I would pay her THB 1,500 (the same amount my friend had agreed with his girl), and I agreed, just so she would leave and not make more of a scene. We were standing there and discussing for a couple of minutes and, as much as I know that Dusit D2 is girl-friendly, I’m sure management wouldn’t be happy if they received a complaint about a working girl and a hotel guest making a scene at the aisle of one of the accommodation floors. Eventually, her girlfriend left my friend’s room and they both left the hotel (apparently they had reached an arrangement between themselves to milk these two silly bastards as fast as possible and swiftly go back to Roxy for another round). All in all, still a good experience (I still fondly remember her great shapely ass!!).
On Sunday, it took us a while to realize that the Buddhist holiday meant a dry-day (no alcohol sold), which in turn implied that most girl bars and certainly all go-go bars were closed. We tried a number of places and went up and down Beach Road and Second Road a few times before finally giving up. Later at night, after my friend had already called it a day, I convinced myself that no Buddhist holiday should keep me from finding company in Pattaya and out I went again. The streets were almost desert, all lights were out in Soi 6 and the scene at other alleys was just as dismaying, with just a few stranded WGs and the odd policeman. I ended up finding a mildly interesting girl in front of Fungirl bar, on the alley between Soi 7 and 8. She was called Som (like “orange” in Thai, or so she told me) and had exotic features, which wouldn’t be enough to grab my attention if we were at a go-go bar, but at that point I was not about to be particularly picky. I offered THB 500 for short time, she didn’t move. I raised it to THB 700 and she agreed. There was no bar fine, since the bar was closed and she was just hanging out there. Funny enough, we ended up having a great time. She gave me a nice and relaxed BBBJ and did not hurry me to finish. Quite the opposite, she actually wanted to stay for long-time (provided I doubled her pay). But I prefer to sleep by myself, so I kindly invited her out after paying her.
On Monday, my friend and I went to the beach in north Pattaya. After some sun bathing and beers, we decided to visit the soapie Sabai Dee before lunch. It is located just one block away from the beach, on Second Road. The fishbowl had some 13-15 girls at 2pm, mostly average-looking, no stunners. Service was THB 1,900. Interesting detail on this particular establishment is that the fishbowl is located on a large area, together with the reception desk (where you pay for the service) and a dozen tables were punters seat and make their choices while having a drink. My experience with picking a girl from the fishbowl comes mostly from China, where the “fishbowl moment” is just this – a moment. You stand there for a few seconds with someone from management putting pressure on you to choose a girl and go to your room. In Sabai Dee, we took our seats and discussed the options leisurely over drinks. The only pressure was that the other punters would sometimes chose the girls we were seriously considering taking. We finally made our choices and went to the rooms. Routine was very similar to that in Bangkok, except that here the girls insisted on CBJ (it happened to both me and my friend). Overall, not a memorable experience, but a very convenient option, close to the beach and available during the day, while bars and go-go joints are still closed.
On Monday night, we did another round of go-go bars and barfined two girls from Living dolls. My friend got the best looking of the girls available. He so much as spotted her sitting by herself on a table next to ours and already he had made his mind. Mamasan said her BF was THB 1000, while the BF for my girl was THB 700. Apparently, his girl was supposed to do a show later on, hence the hefty price to take her out. She had a huge dragon tattoo on her back, crisscrossing her spine all the way down to her ass. Mine had an also large tiger tattoo on her back and a shapely ass. Both girls were in their mid-twenties, had great bodies and charged THB 1,500 for short time. My friend and I took our girls back to our hotel and had a great time, with no attitude problems or misunderstandings. It was a fitting “grand finale” to our tour of Pattaya!!
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Pattaya 5 days so far (2nd trip)
exploring to see whats new.
took a look into windmill. girls were average but the effort and shows were really good. some guys suckin titties, sticking fingers into cunts, girl on stage kept taking my hand and putting it on her pussy askin me to rub it. but my personal experience sucked. walked in and sat in front and ordered a water. after 1 min waitress asked if i wanted to buy the girl a lady drink and i said no. she asked where i came from and i said usa, she gave me a face and said 'no' (prob cause i'm chinese-american) and couldn't comprehend that non-white people came from the us. then asked why i'm a cheap charlie then poked every girl within distance and said cheap charlie to them and pointed at me. i mean wtf?! well, then a girl on stage came over to dance in front of me and the waitress tapped her, shook her head, and whispered something which i think was 'cheap charlie' and the dancer then ignored me.
soo. if i don't buy a chick a lady drink then i should be blacklisted? well i do buy ladydrinks regularly but only if she's cute, i like her, and she talk to me for a bit. my experience sucked but i spoke to the other guys there and they all loved the joint so i guess it was just my bad luck.
x-zone and the other go-gos next to it. girls not so hot and less than what i'd like. went into all 4 at the stairwell and sat for a drink. x-zone has the most enthusiam but only 5's.7's.
roxy's next to insomnia, woo very nice place. prettier girls and they had body painting and soapy dancing. girls were friendly. someone sat next to me in hostess slothes and asked for a ladydrink. i said 'no thanks' and she left. later on a bikini chick sat next to me and was real nice. i got her a ladydrink and played with her boobies. very pretty girls but i think the drinks cost more.
ice bar. bulls***. the pictures show a bar made of ice but its just a regular bar and there's a small butcher room freezer in the back that they stack 6" half melted ice cubes to make it kinda look like an igloo and you can order a drink from the bar inside but then you go back out onto the balcony and sit on a sofa. i said no thanks and they got very fussy and demanded a tip for me going inside the freezer. i gave them 50 baht and waved them off.
beach road. woo! around 9 pm i saw several very nice looking chicks along with the usual old ones (also several ladyboy areas but i'm very good at spotting). i made a pass each day and always saw some tasty morsels. got nice smiles and the girls seemed more reponsive and nicer.
walking street. mercenary attitudes. what happened here? 2 years ago there was much nicer attitudes. the ladyboys are less aggressive which is a nice touch. seems cleaner too.
asked barfine prices at 8 different go-go bars and all said 600-700 baht. same prices as bangkok which seems high.
passed some of those beer bar places and saw cuties around but since i don't drink beer i didn't bother to sit at any. maybe if i had a friend to tag along with.
central festival is the new shopping mall and it's fabulous! makes bangkok completely obsolete now. delicious food. i recommend the viet place on 6th floor. i keep seeing guys with thai young hotties around there and i keep wondering where they hell did they find them? and i also wonder how much they give these hotties per day.
hotels. i used to stay at top thai for 600 baht aircon/fridge but found pn inn (ancient crappy aircon) next to it for 400 baht. (soi pn next to the p72 bar/lucifer) but 1 alleyway down you can get 500 baht single/600 double for nicer room with wifi next to jasmine hotel. jasmine hotel for 800 baht you get a f*kin studio with full kitchen (induction stovetops) and a sink and wifi. this is walking street area.
closer to central festival the prices go up around 2nd road/soi 10-13 it's 600-800 baht and no wifi. i'd personally rather walking street and take the mini-pickup trucks for 10 baht.
tomorrow morning i'm going to try [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. did a pass by earlier and only 3 girls sitting there. looked for pump station but couldn't find it on soi post office. saw golden girls though and lewinsky's on the other soi 13/2 and 13/3
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[QUOTE=Hollow Man]
Passed some of those beer bar places and saw cuties around but since I don't drink beer I didn't bother to sit at any. Maybe if I had a friend to tag along with.
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Don't really need to be a beer or alcoholic to sit at one of the bars. Next time If you like what you see, sit down and simply order a soda or bottle water. This way you won't miss an opportunity, or you could buy me a beer next time I'm in Pattaya and I'd be glad to your new bar "friend" and help you fit in better in Pattaya.
Shark
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[QUOTE=Hollow Man]Exploring to see whats new.
Took a look into Windmill. Girls were average but the effort and shows were really good. Some guys suckin titties, sticking fingers into cunts, girl on stage kept taking my hand and putting it on her pussy askin me to rub it. But my personal experience sucked. Walked in and sat in front and ordered a water. After 1 min waitress asked if I wanted to buy the girl a lady drink and I said no. She asked where I came from and I said USA, she gave me a face and said 'No' (prob cause I'm Chinese-American) and couldn't comprehend that non-white people came from the US. Then asked why I'm a cheap charlie then poked every girl within distance and said cheap charlie to them and pointed at me. I mean WTF?! Well, then a girl on stage came over to dance in front of me and the waitress tapped her, shook her head, and whispered something which I think was 'cheap charlie' and the dancer then ignored me.
Soo. If I don't buy a chick a lady drink then I should be blacklisted?
Asked barfine prices at 8 different go-go bars and all said 600-700 baht. Same prices as Bangkok which seems high.
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I think that one bar is an exception. I've visited many bars and almost never had a problem with just ordering something and just hanging out--yes, sometimes they will ask for LD's but just smile and say it's still early and you're still working on it and they will leave you alone. There are so many bars in pattaya that if one or two give you problems, simply make a note of it and reported back here for us to avoid and move on to the next bar.
You mention Go-go bars and yes, they have the highest barfines, the common bars are much cheaper (both barfines and the ladies)
Shark
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[QUOTE=Hollow Man]Central Festival is the new Shopping Mall and it's fabulous![/QUOTE]
I always fear the better the malls the worse the bars will become ..
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]I always fear the better the malls the worse the bars will become ..[/QUOTE]
You are exactly correct Rocksoff. I abhor a shopping mall, and find their proliferation in this last bastion a sad sign of the ascendancy of that lifestyle I'm trying to escape. Americanization proceeds apace - lots of consumer garbage, no more sex with cute young girls.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]You are exactly correct Rocksoff. I abhor a shopping mall, and find their proliferation in this last bastion a sad sign of the ascendancy of that lifestyle I'm trying to escape. Americanization proceeds apace - lots of consumer garbage, no more sex with cute young girls.[/QUOTE]
Sorry but I disagree, in Manila they are the best places to pick up young, able bodied, willing, and reasonably priced ladies....
Upscale malls attract night areas which bring out the semi pro's. So not all countries the malls are a bad place. You just need to get the young cute ladies willing to blow you to sit in the malls then you'll love them.
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pump station
12 noon walked around and found pump station. empty except for 2 guys and an old lady.
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went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and still only 3 girls sitting outside but one was eager (mid thirties) so up we went in and i paid 700 baht. she said upstairs or here (couches) i went up and the room is well lit. small room like dr's office but the walls are all mirrors so i can see myself getting blown 50 times to infinity from every angle. very nice and she was good at what she does with no complaints. i usually take quite a long time and girls sometimes make faces about. tipped 300 baht for her being a trooper (i take about 20-40 minutes)
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Sorry but I disagree, in Manila they are the best places to pick up young, able bodied, willing, and reasonably priced ladies.... [/QUOTE]
That's a completely different story. In Indonesia malls are also apparently great for cruising. In both Phils and Indonesia oceans of poverty surround the malls that rear up like lone volcanic islands, being torn at by the endless assaults of waves, or, erm, penniless girls.
In Thailand on the other hand the malls are a sign of the expanding middle class.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]That's a completely different story. In Indonesia malls are also apparently great for cruising. In both Phils and Indonesia oceans of poverty surround the malls that rear up like lone volcanic islands, being torn at by the endless assaults of waves, or, erm, penniless girls.
In Thailand on the other hand the malls are a sign of the expanding middle class.[/QUOTE]
You make it sound like the world is coming to an end if a mall goes up. Many of us including myself have picked up ladies at paragon, MBK or others in BKK.
In Pattaya mates have grabbed girls from Mikes and I've gotten a ladies from Central. One P4P and one freebie.
The girls follow the money... granted the malls in Pattaya are not like Robinson in Manila and it surely isn't Beach Road but it's not a sign that bars will close down, granted there might be a shift in were the girls hang out but that is about it.
Don't you fear, Thailand will always make sure they step on and keep Isaan folks dirt poor and dumb with plenty of farmers and plenty of girls willing to come to the big cities and spread their legs for you folks.
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Sorry for the late report, was in Pattaya for a week on February. Stayed at Hotel Aiyara, great hotel, large rooms and no extra fees for guests, was totally girl-friendly.
Clubs, I visited;
Tonys: an American style club, bowling and billiards. Not so hot girls. Girls ask for 1000-1500 bahts for LT. Ask for Mee, she has great services.
Lucifer: Great club, live music, too loud music.
Mixx: the best in Pattaya, you may find Russian girls too. Full of hot girls
Zone a-gogo: a must-C. Especially show made with ice and pingpong ball. You may spend some hours with the girls in the second floor if you pay 2000 Bahts including CIM and anal.
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Beach Road
Going to Pattaya in 3 weeks hows the action on beach road any photos pls & what is average price now ?
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Beach Road
[QUOTE=Patterson]Going to Pattaya in 3 weeks hows the action on beach road any photos pls & what is average price now ?[/QUOTE]
There are photos in the photo section.
There are reports in the Pattaya section.
If you are pressed for time, I will try to arrive a week early and arrange lots of Beach Road girls for you to save you any effort.
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Song Krang
Hi all,
I will be flying in from Chiang Mai to Pattaya on the 10th. I hear that's when Thai new years celebrations start. How are the mongering conditions around this time of the year in Pattaya and in particular does anyone happen to know if Devils Den is open around this time up until the 12/13th of April?
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]Maybe you can explain to me how intelligent people adults, take there children on a motorcycle without a crash helmet? Thats a no brainer as far as I'm concerned, and you yourself must be stupid if you think its ok to do so. We as human beings love and nurture our children right? Try to wrap them up in cotton wool and hope life will be kind and that they will be ok. These stupid thais have no regard for the safety of there children, which brings me back to my earlier post about how they don't even love there own kids, so, work this one out if you can. The father normally has a nice new crash helmet, maybe the mother as well, but the fragile little child or worse 2 children ride perched any way they can with a bare head, this really makes my blood boil, maybe its something to do with buddism? 7 levels of life is it? Can't wait to get to level 2, no my friend, they are not intelligent.[/QUOTE]My bit on the Motor Bike thing.
Everyday I take my kids to school. The school is near Lotus on Thepasit. Many kids, aged between 10 and 17, ride motor bikes to school. Sometimes 2, 3 or 4 to a bike. Maybe I will see 50 motor bikes every morning. Only 10% of the riders and passengers are wearing crash helmets.
Should the kids continue to be allowed to do this? Should the parents continue to let their kids do this? Should the school continue to let the kids do this? (they park their bikes on the school premises). Should the police continue to ignore this? (there are no police traps waiting on any corners to grab 200 Baht from these kids)
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Did I get taken ?
Hi. I've been lurking on this board since about '94. This my second post. Background on me: proud cheap charlie. Been going to Pattaya since 2000, and love it here.
So, while in Pattaya, where do I NOT pick up gals? Rare to never that I get 'um in go-gos or bar-beers. In last five years I doubt I picked up more than half-dozen in these places.
Where DO I pick up the gals? Nearly everywhere else. Walking street. 7-11s. Beach Road. 2nd road. Outside of bars. Walking Street. As they go to work. As they leave work. Just outside of Tony's (I never walk in because the place a ripoff). Outside of Lucifers. And Lucifers itself, Xzyte. All the different streets. As they eat. As they go home.
And oh yea, did I mention Walking Street?
Generally when I stay here, it for 3 to 7 weeks at a time, figure three to six times a year. In past five years, I doubt I've paid more than a handful of bar fines. With no insult. OK, perhaps some insult, as far as I am concerned, farangs who frequent go-gos and bar fine those gals are ding dongs. Having way more money than sense.
That said, there are a few go-gos which I do go when entertaining friends, in the same way you may go to a nicer restaurant w/ friends. But never bar fine and rarely lady drinks.
Today however, am rather not happy. Whenever I get a freelancer in my room am always careful with my belongings. Yes, I found her on WS at 3: AM and yes we agreed to 500 baht ST and 1000 LT (as I always specify ST and LT pricing and this has been my standard compensation for the ladies since the year 2005). She was from Laos, 80 kilos, while skin, and hot hot as hell. And I do mean super incredibly hot! When in the room after ST she wanted to leave. Fine. I myself let my guard down, and am not certain exactly how but she somehow swiped my wallet and left. The hotel called me as she left, and I OKed it, not realizing until morning my wallet gone.
The wallet had about $150 US. So, yes this morning I exchanged a few hundred dollars and bought another wallet for 300 baht.
Here is the point: Last night myself and friend did a small bar hop on WS, and went to a few go-gos. Apparently, he commented and I assume it factual, that go-gos on WS now charge 600 baht plus for bar fine and the gal charges 1500. 2000 baht for ST. Also you must pay for those overpriced drinks, and a LD or two, cost is well over $100, and could be even $150.
Do you feel de-masculated yet? If not, you should. Makes mi pecker shrivel.
Yes yes, you may argue that I lost cash, never to be seen again. However, I counter that it my own stupidity, and I have no doubt that any go-go / bar beer gal could do the same, and get away with it (after all, how can you PROVE that a gal took it).
This is the first time ever a gal stole from me (friends of mine in the States lost over a million from their X wives, don't get me started). But anyone who frequents the go-go / bar-beer loses far more. And worse is that these ding-dongs do not realize that they got robbed!
Most are also unaware that go-go gals are overall spoiled and terrrrrrible in the sack, versus the FLs, who really need to earn their money.
My personal lesson is this a wakeup call to be bit more careful in future. And yes, tonight I will have yet another FL. Once you FL, you never go back. There no other way.
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Cheers slacker u da man ;)
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[QUOTE=Diceman]Maybe you can explain to me how intelligent people adults, take there children on a motorcycle without a crash helmet?[/QUOTE]That's doesn't apply to all Thais - for example none of my Thai friends have motorbikes, and 90% of them refuse to ride even short distances with me on mine. They all drive around in Altises and Civics with their seat belts on.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Most are also unaware that go-go gals are overall spoiled and terrrrrrible in the sack, versus the FLs, who really need to earn their money[/QUOTE]Agree with you here.
I recently took home 3 gogo girls and they were all mediocre.
And took home 2 disco FLs and they were both wonderful and also cheaper.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]She was from Laos, 80 kilos, while skin, and hot hot as hell. And I do mean super incredibly hot![/QUOTE]
80 kilos?!? Dude, I have news for you...she was a dude!
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Popper,
your message was mysteriously aggressive, for reasons that I do not understand. But I am going to respectfully disagree with you.
I think the concept of a BF is rather odd to begin with, and I too was uneasy with the idea at first. As such, I have dabbled with the FL in the various nightclubs, the beach road girls, the girls trotting up and down WS, and some massage girls too. I had an awesome, awesome experience with one girl from Insomnia - she just loved having her pussy and asshole eaten out - a rarity amongst Thai women, in my experience. My best friend came to Patts with me once and picked up a FL in WS - a tall, curvy white-skinned goddess who boinked him like never before. He has always been indebted to me for showing him WS, so there definitely are some excellent opportunities to be had in the FL scene. But I have also had lots and lots of very bad experiences with FL. How often has the girl gotten back and played 'tired'? Or 'period'? Or just plain crabby attitude? Or tried to bolt outta there with your wallet?
My point: the attitude you get with a girl (whether gogo, FL or anything else) once in the room is always somewhat unpredictable. But in my experience, it is *more* unpredictable with FLs. You really don't know what you are getting, and in the dim lights of the nightclub, what with all the smoke and bumping and grinding going on, you can't really judge what she looks like or whether what she says is genuine.
With gogo girls, you get a chance to talk to her, play with her a little, poke and tease her, and see how she reacts. I posted a while ago about some guy who went in to a gogo bar and literally stuck his tongue down a girls throat to see how she reacted. Yes, you pay ridiculous prices for watered down drinks, and then you pay a stupid 600B for the girl, and yes, that is all ridiculous, but you get something for it. If you are wise, and you know what you are doing, you pick up on the cues that are there for all to see, and you sift out the bad gogo girls from the gems. You use your brain, you take a slight hit in the wallet, but then you get your brains fucked out like few FL would ever do for you. That at least is the concept.
I would say that over the last year, of the 20 or so FLs that I have picked up (most in BKK, some in Pattaya), around 1/3 have been fantastic, 1/3 have been terrible, and 1/3 have been so-so. And of the 40 or so gogo girls I have been with, I would say 2 or 3 of them have been awful, perhaps 20 have been spectacular, and the rest were so-so. In my experience, therefore, the risk of taking a FL is greater than a gogo girl.
That is purely my own experience, and not an indictment of your post. Now, given that, if I were to take the leap and say that all guys who prefer FLs are
[QUOTE=Popper1] ding dongs[/QUOTE]
I think you would agree that this is somewhat uncalled for.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]Maybe you can explain to me how intelligent people adults, take there children on a motorcycle without a crash helmet? [/QUOTE]
Apparently there's a popular urban myth that says a helmet will stop the kid's head from growing.
Ridiculous, I know.
I'm in Vietnam and I see that despite helmet laws being instituted a couple years back and all motorbike riders complying, still MOST kids don't have helmets. For some reason the govt wrote the law exempting small children from having to wear the helmets. And I bet if you asked why, they'd tell you: it stops their heads from growing.
So the answer, I think, is that on this matter at least, most people here in SEA are not intelligent.
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Popper's 80 kilo "hottie"
I'm hoping that was a typo. Maybe 80 pounds?
If it was 80 Kilos, I bet she was "hot", as in over-heating.
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Just Generalizations
we are just generalising right! but all points are well taken!
here's my generalization in regards to motorcycle riding in pattaya. in the several years you've had stories from politicians to police chiefs saying how everyone must wear a helmet. just last year the pattaya police representatives went to the local thai school stressing how important it was for them to wear helmet. yet when the lecture was over he left the school on his motorbike without a helmet! yet when i take and pick up my son at his school in north pattaya.. naklua..photosan rd. where there are several public schools it is a daily rat race with kids 90% without helmets. this area is heavily patron by police yet there seem to be no law enforcement whatsoever!
thailand wants to have laws like the west, cell phone, helmet, but can't or won't enforce these laws. instead do spot checks on farangs on beach rd, to let the toursist feel that laws are strict here. mushroom helmets that have little standand but will help if you were only following the speed law. ask a thai what is the speed limit? flashing red line? solid white line? double yellow line? flashing yellow light? they don't have no idea! in many cases the traffic police causes more problems than help. it makes me laugh when i see a guy flying down sukhumvit at 100km with a mushroom helmet and shirt or jacket flying out like a spoiler on a car like it is going to save his life. moron you say and the answer is correct!
laws that are made are to be enforce and i'm reflexible enough to understand the argurment that thais are poor and sometimes the motorbike is all they can afford and riding 4 is the only way from point a to b. i have no problem if this is done safely but kids fying and speeding and no enforcement because the reasoning is how else are they going to get to school because the parents are working so hard.
in the end... i can't understand a culture that seems to pride themselves in mai pen rai, seems to be in such a hurry in their bikes and cars to kill themselves and yet if you were to question the manner in which they are driving they wouldn't have a clue as to what you are talking about. because even with the laws it is their culture, parenting bleeding exceptance decades after decades to their sons and daughters. in my neighbor i see the kids at 12 already training to ride all without helmets! it isn't even mentioned!
we can't stop it unless they themselves want to change and help themselves meantime it is a tool to control the population maybe along with all the other reasons that have been brought up! personally if i see someone driving safely and need help i get out and help even if it's not the thai way, but if the guy deserves it i only stop to see if he is alive and if so " ask them if it hurts " smile and drive off.
in pattaya, drive defensively at all times to avoid contact with thai drivers. and i know thai's that have cars that wouldn't be caught dead on a motorbike because the myth is they don't want to get dark or they think their shit don't spell if they lower themselves like other thais.
we can ***** and moan all we want and it does help,,, and the place is like the wild wild west but at the end of the day most of you guys live and visit because you can get a good pair of lips around your little none thinking head and while you watch her head go up and down your big or little shaft we just say wtf life is good!
lbm
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pattaya hotels to stay..
Hi,
I'm looking forward to come to pattay for 3 days. As I'm planning on a budget trip can you'll recommend some good clean and secure place. I will be traveling on my own. I want to try the gogo bar concept so it would be great if I can find my hotel near these so won't have to walk allot middle of the night on my return back to the hotel.
I'm sure there are many tourist who are looking for the same information that I'm requesting. So please be kind enough to help in with all your experiences.
Thanks in advance
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Quick Correction
Just a quick correction. I wrote she was 80 kilos. Oops.
Meant to state she 80 pounds.. My bad. She a little thing, and cute as heck.
As said, I cheap charlie. Do not waste even a baht away.
Eg: Hotel I was staying at since 2003 always charged me 500 baht/night. They charged others 600 baht, but for me less, I assumed that I got the better price since I a frequent customer there for over 6 years, always pay my bill, and never a problem. However, this trip they wanted 600 baht.
Fine. I left. There no reason at all to overpay here in Pattaya for a reasonable and clean hotel. And, personally I will pay 500 baht. Or less. It is IMO crazy to pay over 1000 baht nightly for a room. And ding-dong means just that: crazy.
I left that hotel which I knew, loved, and had so many great memories in, and am now in another. Cost is. Yes. Exactly 500 baht. And, if this one raises their price, I found four other hotels at that 500 baht or less price point. For me, if I break that 500 baht barrier, not good. Yes, for me it crazy.
Actually, I kinda like this new place even more than the former place anyway.
Had another FL last evening, and will grab one tonight. Man, many of them are real strong. They earn their money. Not like those spoiled overpriced go-go gals.
It's crazy (AKA: ding-dong) IMO to spend go-go prices. Near guaranteed over 3000 baht total after you're finished w/ those LDs, BF, overpriced drinks, and the rest of the crap. If you want to waste hard earned cash in this poor economy, you have my blessings to do so.
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80 kilos....
[QUOTE=Popper1]Today however, am rather not happy. Whenever I get a freelancer in my room am always careful with my belongings. Yes, I found her on WS at 3: AM and yes we agreed to 500 baht ST and 1000 LT (as I always specify ST and LT pricing and this has been my standard compensation for the ladies since the year 2005). She was from Laos, 80 kilos, while skin, and hot hot as hell. And I do mean super incredibly hot! When in the room after ST she wanted to leave. Fine. I myself let my guard down, and am not certain exactly how but she somehow swiped my wallet and left. The hotel called me as she left, and I OKed it, not realizing until morning my wallet gone.
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WOW....Amazing how everyone is a Ding-dong but you. Hope you enjoyed your 176 pound spinner from Laos.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]I would say that over the last year, of the 20 or so FLs that I have picked up (most in BKK, some in Pattaya), around 1/3 have been fantastic, 1/3 have been terrible, and 1/3 have been so-so. And of the 40 or so gogo girls I have been with, I would say 2 or 3 of them have been awful, perhaps 20 have been spectacular, and the rest were so-so. In my experience, therefore, the risk of taking a FL is greater than a gogo girl.
That is purely my own experience, and not an indictment of your post. Now, given that, if I were to take the leap and say that all guys who prefer FLs are
I think you would agree that this is somewhat uncalled for.[/QUOTE]
I agree. If a person likes FL then they like FL. If they like gogos then so be it.
There's not really a point to arguing "Why spend XXXX on a gogo girl when you can spend XXX on a FL!" when it makes more sense to compare apples to apples and say "What's the reasoning beind spending XX,XXX on a gogo girl instead of X,XXX on the same type of girl?"
And I would think a gogo girl is less likely to steal because you know where she works.
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[QUOTE=The Scout]I agree. If a person likes FL then they like FL. If they like gogos then so be it.
There's not really a point to arguing "Why spend XXXX on a gogo girl when you can spend XXX on a FL!" when it makes more sense to compare apples to apples and say "What's the reasoning beind spending XX,XXX on a gogo girl instead of X,XXX on the same type of girl?"
And I would think a gogo girl is less likely to steal because you know where she works.[/QUOTE]I am having a ball here in Pattaya. I agree Scout. Different strokes for different folks. Some like Pepsi and some like Coke.
I'm a FL guy myself. I'm batting 1000. I never have trouble with FL here in Pattaya. It's usually a GFE. As a matter of fact I always have to kick them out. BKK is a different story.
Anyway the other day I was talking to one of my FL who used to be a waitress in an agogo. I was getting her to run the agogo phenomenon by me. Because I for one can't understand it. I grew up in strip clubs where they take all of their clothes off and shake asses. Seeing a bunch of girls on the stage in bikinis is rather boring to me. 1. Personally I don't like girls as thin as all the agogo ones seem to be. 2. After how many trips I still can't fathom the bar fine thing. 3. They are out of my mongering budget. I can get a LT disco FL on two different days for what 1 agogo girl will cost me. Or I can get 4-6 Beach Lode girls.
But I was asking this chick why guys like agogos. She said that it was because the girls are not shy. They will approach the guys and they are "spicy" (whatever that means). She also thought the girls and the drinks are overpriced.
But like I said, different strokes for different folks. I like Pattaya so much because of the variety. I can't understand guys who report saying what a bad time they had and how they could not find what they were looking for or something they liked. There is something for everybody here. Tall, short, light, dark, big, small..even girls with dicks or guys with tits. If you can't find it here it may be time to give the fuck up.
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Short trip to Pattaya
I love the smell of untreated sewage in the morning! Guess that means that I have been to Pataya again with its unique and heady aromatic mix of sea, shit and cheap sex. Great!!
Just a few short observations as I wasn’t there that long so will leave the longer, more detailed reports to others who know the place much better than I. Must admit that I bore even myself with the old nostalgia jag when I visit Pats these days, comparing the nasty, greedy, commercialized, ultra-materialistic shit hole that the place has become to the Pattaya of yore which might not have been so glitzy and exciting but at least had a heart (but still smelled of shit). But its not the sophisticated ambiance of the place that gets the punters rolling in.
Quality is still marginal at best with I guess 10% out-and-out woofers, 40% ‘I wouldn’t touch with yours’, 40% so-so and only 10% with a ‘whorrr’ factor (expression rather than profession). This is of course, purely a subjective opinion. The best been in the clubs and go-go bars and the worst been in the beer bars (although I did meet a couple of cute girls amongst the grannies).
Some recent reports had led me to hope that the quality on Beach Road had improved. Sadly, I did not find this to be the case during my visit. There were the occasional cuteys but the majority were the usual rough looking street hoofers that I recall from previous visits. One thing that I did notice was that the number of Indians trawling BR in packs had increased exponentially. Blame cheap budget air flights from the sub-continent but the threat is minimal at the moment as many of the better looking girls still turn their noses up at khaaks, partially due to colour (many Thais been racists) but also because they are perceived as cheap charlies, often refusing to pay more than 300 baht and demanding special services. This was all gleaned from a beach road girl so don’t shoot the messenger.
So what did I do during my short sojourn. I took a lovely, chubby little stewardess with fine big natural assets from Airport Club on my first night. Service was enthusiastic if a bit frenetic but she wouldn’t stay LT so it was two pops and she was gone. Had pre-negotiated the second pop before we left the bar.
Second night, as counterpoint, I went for a little Dick:eek:. Not what you might be thinking but a tiny little half Cambodian waif called Dick from Red Point. She might speak like Minnie Mouse but she turned out to be a great 3 hole PSE bonk. So I fluttered a few extra baht in her direction and persuaded her to waive the usual on-site rule and do an out call to my hotel the next night. She stayed the night and it was nearly as good as it gets.
A couple of daytime beer bar wenches completed my short Pattayan break. Not as vigorous as I used to be:).
Place might smell like shit but the pussy is still pretty sweet.
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Lollitas...the good and the bad
Lolitta's
I previously reported that I hit Lolitta's right after checking into the Pasadnea Lodge. The service was very good with the lady immediately stripping and performing.
My second visit was not good however. I selected a lady...Cindy... and she was reluctant to take off any clothes. I literally had to unbutton her blouse and unhook her bra. She wouldn't take off her skirt claiming to be in her period. I said "no problem", but considering her attitude about taking anything off, I felt it was pretty suspect. After about 5 minutes of pretty mechanical bobbing, I asked for a different girl and offered her 200 bhat for her time. She claimed that would cost me an additional 700 on top of her fee, so I had her carry on. I finally called it quits without satisfaction. Neither of us were happy by now. I paid my tab while she lingered waiting for a tip or to escort me to the door. I sent her outside before having a private word with mammasan. Mammasan immediately asked if there was a problem with her not taking her clothes off. Perhaps Cindy had been the subject of a prior complaint. Mammasan told me (for your future reference) that you can change out a girl in the first 5 or 10 minutes if she's not satisfactory at no additional charge. Of course after 20 minutes...don't expect that kind of service. I explained my side of the story, complete with the 200 bhat offer and early request. Mammasan was most appologetic and eager to make things right. She offered me some kind of card for credit, but I was heading out to Bangkok within the hour and left. Bottom line: I think management wants their customers happy and will try to make things right. If your provider doesn't do it for you, change her out early, or walk out. Don't let the girl b.s. you with "not possible". Live and learn.
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[QUOTE=Popper1] It is IMO crazy to pay over 1000 baht nightly for a room. And ding-dong means just that: crazy.
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Oh my god, I usually pay somewhat 2,000-3,000 baht per night....
How do you then call that if 1,000 is already considered "crazy"????? :eek:
Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Diceman]I'm more concerned how you been lurking on the board since 1994 and your contribution on here been zero, no doubt you gleaned a lot from here in all them trips you made here, time to put something back eh?[/QUOTE]Point well taken. I have gotten an incredible amount out of this forum, and am very very grateful for it. I not only read reports on these boards. I copy them, and then spend literally hours grabbing useful information from them. I may head to Chang Mai next trip. So, I will skim over thousands of pages in M$ word about Chang Mai and then make my own word file, and organize all this great information. ISG has truly outstanding info. After I skim and organize all it, I know places to stay, places to see, pricing, tips, secrets, the different arguments, and everything else.
I do get rather pissed off when people post something as:
[b]"Hi. First time poster. Where can I can a girlfreindly hotel in Pattaya for under $150 and where can I find a girl. Duhhhhh". [/b]
And here I am, having spent hours, and skimmed thousands of pages overall on different areas in different countries, and you get those morons.
When I go Pattaya (as I am now at), always always always do FLs. Never a problem in 10 years. That time it was figure 4:30 AM, and my guard was down. Always set up the room properly. Always be careful. Those of you who think go-go gals are safer are 1. Kidding yourself and you're letting your guard down and you'll get bit, and 2. Paying OUTRAGEOUS amounts IMO. Now, if you're in Pattaya for only three days, first trip ever, then go ahead and spend cash like it stale. Waste cash to the hilt.
Personally since the year 2000 I've gone here 3-6 times a year for 3-5 weeks a pop. To me, it pragmatic and moral issue not to break the 500 baht nightly hotel barrier. And. This is important.
[b]Do not complain of hotel price increases if you do not make a stand yourself. [/b]
Yea, I cheap. I cannot afford for example paying interest on my credit cards. If they raise my interest rate to 30 percent, make no difference at all because I pay off my credit card in full each and every month. If I had the money of Donald Trump, I still could not afford any interest rate or penalties.
Similarly, I see no reason at all to paying pimps at go-gos for a girl, any more than paying an Eskimo for snow. Girls are literally everywhere.
[b]Be a man.
Get your own girl.
Meet her at her own level.
Figure 30. 50 percent will reject you. Fine.
Smile. Negotiate. Girls will respect you more.
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You want to get to know the girls? Girls appreciate you much more if you take them to a movie, buy them a meal, or even get her a stupid hat. Than if you humiliate and demasculate yourself and purchase her overpriced lady drink and pay her ding-dong amounts of cash for ST.
Recently changed my rule. Before only paid gal a firm 500 baht for ST and 1000 baht for LT. Now I might pay up to 200 baht more. Very rarely 300 baht more. Should gal demand 1000 baht for ST. Later.
Also, you never know who you will fine as a FL. You are way more likely to find non-pros, regular working girls, visiting girls, college students, just gals who want to have a good time, or a gal from soi 6 on her evening off. You also risk. [b]rejection[/b].
Rejection. Risk. All part of the game. If you do not like the game, then be prepared to pay five times what I do. And have a fraction of the fun. Or better yet, just hide at home in your bedroom closet.
I do feel bar fines are for ding-dongs, nubies, and tourists. And you'll never see me complaining over high BF or LD prices.
[b]Hell, I support those price increases anyway! [/b]
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]One thing that I did notice was that the number of Indians trawling BR in packs had increased exponentially. Blame cheap budget air flights from the sub-continent but the threat is minimal at the moment as many of the better looking girls still turn their noses up at khaaks, partially due to colour [/QUOTE]
So what's this "threat" that's minimal at the moment, exactly?
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You're a better man than I am...
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]...the number of Indians trawling BR in packs had increased exponentially. Blame cheap budget air flights from the sub-continent but the threat is minimal at the moment as many of the better looking girls still turn their noses up at khaaks, partially due to colour (many Thais been racists) but also because they are perceived as cheap charlies, often refusing to pay more than 300 baht and demanding special services.[/QUOTE]
I thank, welcome, and respect our Subcontinental brothers for their stand on pricing, if in fact the stereotyping is true. I've sat and watched girl after girl go upstairs with these gentlemen, so I wouldn't be too quick to believe that the ladies refuse them as they like to claim. Such talk is familiar - 'I like England man because he have good heart, no like Yerman man, blah blah'. They always want to you to believe someone's a cheap Charley for paying the correct price. The real gem is the girl who provides good service to each and every man, equally, without denigrating them to the next customer.
I say thank you to each and every gentleman, regardless of skin colour or national origin, who holds the line on price (and demands decent service)!
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When is Songkran in Pattaya? During that time is it possible to catch the bus or take a taxi to Bangkok?
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[QUOTE=Popper1]
To me, it pragmatic and moral issue not to break the 500 baht nightly hotel barrier.
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A moral issue? That's going a bit far.
Anyhow, I am a bit disappointed by the self-proclaimed king of cheap charlies: 500 bahts is a bit steep for Pattaya :)
An aircon-room at Prima Mansion is only 300 bahts (but often fully-booked), Prima Place has great 400 bahts a/c-rooms and 94 Mansion (on an even-numbered subsoi off Soi Khopai, not far from Thepprasit Road) has very decent fan-rooms for 250 bahts and aircon-rooms for 350 bahts.
I haven't slept in Pattaya hotels for a while now as I almost always stay at friends' or girlfriends' places but instead of paying for ST rooms, I prefer to "open" a cheap LT room which can be used up to X times within 24 hours.
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[QUOTE=The Scout]When is Songkran in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]
Should start on April 13th and last +/- one week.
[QUOTE=The Scout]During that time is it possible to catch the bus or take a taxi to Bangkok?[/QUOTE]
Possible but in Bangkok it is not much safer than in Pattaya, just shorter (3 days "only").
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Oh very nice
[QUOTE=The Scout]When is Songkran in Pattaya? During that time is it possible to catch the bus or take a taxi to Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Very nice.
Thanks for all.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]A moral issue? That's going a bit far.
Anyhow, I am a bit disappointed by the self-proclaimed king of cheap charlies: 500 bahts is a bit steep for Pattaya :)
An aircon-room at Prima Mansion is only 300 bahts (but often fully-booked), Prima Place has great 400 bahts a/c-rooms and 94 Mansion (on an even-numbered subsoi off Soi Khopai, not far from Thepprasit Road) has very decent fan-rooms for 250 bahts and aircon-rooms for 350 bahts.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I need learn more from those who are obviously wiser than myself.
Quick trip report from yesterday.
Now bit tired. Been banging every day, sometimes 2 or even three times/day for last two weeks. Pretty much going on dry. Needed a liftmeup. Got some Cialis. Just went to some pharm yesterday evening on 2nd Road about midnight and asked cost. Cost only 400 baht for four tablets for the indian generic. Not bad. On way home found older gal who wanted to go w/ me. She towards the opening of WS and worked in one of the nicer massage parlors. Really super hot body considering her age.
Found out she 40 years old. Her ass was near perfect. Shit. If US gals looked like she, most of my friends would have absolutely stay married. That's what I love about here. One day get gal who is 20 year old, next day 30 year old, and then 40 years old. Gal w/ no makeup and then gal w/ too much makeup. Then get fat gal, and then a thin gal. Then a pro, and then a non-pro. Everything goes.
Wanted her since I knew I could test the Vit see out. Just looking at her knew she could take a pounding. Anyway, took 1/2 a tablet, and found out that the Vit see was very solid. Three rounds where stiffy was incredibly darn strong. Pounded her good, and she just wanted more. She took the 1000 baht and was very happy w/ that. Tip. Yea. For a tip she got my cell phone, which she already contacted me three times wanting to get together more.
She left about 9: AM and by 11:00 stiffy was up and about again. Oh well.
Damn I hate Pattaya.
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Obsessions
Obsessions: Always enjoyed my stays there. Especially so after the renovation and, what have to be, the best wash rooms in town. I have always found the bar selection girls and lady boys, yes I sometimes take one of each to spice up my life, very good. Very modest price. Great shows & lovely costumes. I know where I will be on my next trip back.
Also, have you seen the rooms? Check them out next time.
I really have no time for these Pattaya Bashers. Where else in the world can you have fun like this for a few cents. But, alas I am afraid it will change.
Recently in Bangkok I was regularly quoted 4, 000 Baht (130 dollars) doe a short night. It seems the Japanese and other Asians now rule the roost.
Enjoy it while you can.
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The Go Go Bar experience
I found this Go Go girl just two or three soi(s) before the Walking street. I forget the name of the bar but just near the second road. After entering the bar I take my drink and sat around the dancing stage. A girl grabbed me and continuously pushing me to take her on their room at up stair. But she was not on my taste. This girl was sitting far but realized I’v made my choice for her. She was showing her aggression like spreading her legs, Pushing up her breast, naughty looks etc. Finally I called her and opted to use my room paying barfine 600bht instead of paying 300bht for the room at up stair. She agreed 1500bht for LT. It was 2.00p.m. but surprisingly she agreed for the next morning.
It was seemed a nice bat but it was not. In the room she started her necking not to get her wash showing she is feeling cold. Finally my determination made her mood to wash but this made me so off and my little jhonny got sleepy while all the time it was walking in front of me. It was agreed issue that I’l pay her next morning; but after the wash she politely requested to pay half for her mental satisfaction and I paid with full of sour in my mouth.
After the session she started saying her baby is sick she wants to go for one hour to see the baby. I agreed and let her go. After 1.5 hr I realized she is not returning back and it make a relief for me.
It was so hard to carry her any more when it was seen a deep and broad baby stitch (very badly done) on her belly.
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Not the Same Paradise I once knew.
Day 1. After spending three weeks in the Philippines my friends and I gathered our stuff and flew to Bangkok from Clark on a Thursday evening for approximately $200 per person. Caught a metered taxi to Soi 6, found a cheap hotel and got some rest. We were all damn tired.
Day 2. Had breakfast in the morning, checked out of the rooms, then headed over to Soi 7 ½ to Edens to see what time they opened. 5PM…damn! I wanted to hang around Bangkok and wait for it to open, but was vetoed by friends who wanted to hurry down to Pattaya.
So we hired two taxis and took the two hour drive to Pattaya. We did separate searches for hotels when we got there and I found a place called Marine Yensabai Mansion. It has huge suites for 1326 baht and a disco on the 2nd or 3rd floor. We check in and get cleaned up. I’m noticing that the hotel mostly caters to Arabs. They seemed friendly enough though.
Me and a friend hit the streets early. I hadn’t been to Pattaya in several years and as I walked around the whole place seemed much more commercial than it was before. Most of the smaller open air bars were gone, replaced by giant open air bars with lots of colorful flashing lights, and the girls seemed older and more hardened. I didn’t like the new Pattaya.
We drank and ate at one of the many seafood restaurants along Walking Street, and met up with other friends. Drank into the evening and watched the crowd of walking tourists get larger and larger. Sat in one of the large open air bars and tried to talk with some of the girls. I wasn’t feeling it though. After years of going to the Philippines, and having just left there, I missed it already.
Later in the evening me and a friend saw two attractive girls walking along Walking Street. One was Skinny (just my type), and the other was thick (just my friends type). We stopped and chat them up then invited them to eat with us. More seafood. The food is still the highlight of any trip to Thailand. I love the food.
After dinner we invite them back to the hotel for more drinking and partying. They accept so we buy some beer and head to the hotel. Once in the room, my friends girl immediately strips down to her bra and panties. She’s got a damn nice body! We drink for a few hours, talking and getting to know our new girls. There English is not bad; pretty good in fact.
I kick my friend out and he goes to his room with his girl. My girl and I take showers, climb in the bed and do what most people who go to Pattaya do…screwed like rabbits! The only bad thing about the whole experience, the thing that really threw me for a loop was how fast the girl got dressed and left after I got my nut. As soon as I busted a nut, she was in and out of the bathroom, fully dressed and standing beside the bed in about seven minutes. I said, “What, are you leaving?”
So I gave her 1000 baht and watched her walk out the door. So much for GFE! The music in the hotel disco kept me from sleeping well that night. It literally vibrated through the whole room. I knew I would be checking out in the morning.
Day 3. Checked out and moved to the Welcome Center Plaza Hotel on the advice of a friend. He had checked out earlier and relocated there. It was a much nicer place. Rooms were much cleaner and cost around 1550 baht. After check-in we headed to the mall for lunch. The mall used to be a great place to pick up freelancers ten years ago, but it seemed as deserted of girls as ever. Had lunch and returned to the hotel for a nap.
Barhopped the rest of the evening with friends and took many numbers of girls but just didn’t see anything that I had to have so I went back to the room drunk and slept fitfully through the rest of the night.
Day 4. During lunch with friends I told them I would be looking for a BJ bar or something like it to get some quick relief before I started partying that day. One of them told me to just order the massage from the hotel massage service and the girl would offer extra’s. So I did.
She came to my room with her oils and towels and got busy as I lay on my back. She flips me to do the front and noticing my huge woody asks if I want special service. A bj would be nice I say. I stand and have her sit on the edge of the bed. She does a pretty good bbbcim. I give her 1000 baht for the whole service.
More barhopping that evening. I still hadn’t run across any girls that I wanted to bar fine. It seems like I came here to drink and eat. WTF?
Day 5. One of the girls I exchanged number with texts me and lets me know it’s her day off. I have her come meet me and a friend, who has his girl from the previous two nights with him, at Marine seafood restaurant. She arrives and we eat and drink the evening away then head back to the hotel for more of the same. The two girls seem to get along great having never met each other. Before long we’re each in our own rooms screwing our girls like rabbits again. This girl actually stays after the deed and gives me a second pop in the morning. I give her 1000 baht and tell her I’ll text her later.
Day 6. Some of the same activities as previous days but we end up at Lucifer Disco on Walking Street later that night. It’s loaded with freelancers. I end up with a tall girl with a nice body who has her own scooter. We scoot back to my hotel, take showers and have sex several times that night into next morning. That Cialis is a mofo! I gave her 1000 baht exchange emails and say goodbye. It’s time to head back to Bangkok to catch our flight back to the Philippines.
Yella Man
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Freelancers vs. Bar or Gogo Girls
Just my 2 cents on what popper1 and kimbu have talked about regarding freelancers vs. bar or gogo girls. During my times in Pattaya I cannot say that I have found either bar or gogo girls to provide any better service then the freelancer.
That having been said I think it's important to take some care when choosing a freelancer. Taking one from a place like Insomnia I think is more risky because the music is too loud for one to be able to chat them up properly. I think it's far better to find one along Beach Road for instance. Walking down there and using the ocean as a backdrop casually saying hi especially to ones who show some interest in you. Once you see one you are interested in you should take some time and sit down and chat with her a bit. After some nice casual conversation you can wind the conversation down to sex, you can ask if she likes farlong men or likes "boom-boom". Ask her is she goes with you if she thinks she wil be able to enjoy boom-boom. Indicate to her that her enjoyment is important you. I think that through all this conversation you will be able to sense whether she will give you a good experience or not. If not, make some excuse to go and move on. Using this method, I have never had a bad experience and while nothing is full proof I think this method improves your odds dramatically.
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Ok, kill you.
I picked up this Udon Thani girl from Beach Road last night, and as I've been doing all week, I didn't negotiate price in advance.
After one boom-boom she got dressed in a hurry, and got all pissy when I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol
First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.
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[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]I picked up this Udon Thani girl from Beach Road last night, and as I've been doing all week, I didn't negotiate price in advance.
After one boom-boom she got dressed in a hurry, and got all pissy when I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol
First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.[/QUOTE]
Those "Udon Thani girls” are also from Isaan; best to negotiate price and (especially) activities in advance to avoid a situation like this.
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[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]I picked up this Udon Thani girl from Beach Road last night, and as I've been doing all week, I didn't negotiate price in advance.
After one boom-boom she got dressed in a hurry, and got all pissy when I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol
First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.[/QUOTE]Guess you felt great after saving 200 B.
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[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]I picked up this Udon Thani girl from Beach Road last night, and as I've been doing all week, I didn't negotiate price in advance.
After one boom-boom she got dressed in a hurry, and got all pissy when I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol
First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.[/QUOTE]
The onus is on you to set the price beforehand, I hate to say. The only other option, should you refuse the full payment she requests, as you now know, is death. I hope it was worth it to you. If you get out of Thailand immediately, you may be able to save yourself. Some of these girls are well connected though, and it wouldn't surprise me if she eventually tracks you down in your home country and makes you pay... with your life.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]The onus is on you to set the price beforehand, I hate to say. The only other option, should you refuse the full payment she requests, as you now know, is death. I hope it was worth it to you. If you get out of Thailand immediately, you may be able to save yourself. Some of these girls are well connected though, and it wouldn't surprise me if she eventually tracks you down in your home country and makes you pay... with your life.[/QUOTE]You might have gotten the impression that I treated the girl badly, and thus want to put a scare in me, but there is no need for that.
Obviously a pennyless streetwalker doesn't have the resources to track me or anybody else down, such things cost a lot of money. It would be no small feat at that, seeing as how she doesn't know my name or home country.
I'll negotiate price beforehand from now on, that's for sure.
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She did leave with the 500 note. It's not like I stiffed her.
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[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]I picked up this Udon Thani girl from Beach Road last night, and as I've been doing all week, I didn't negotiate price in advance.
After one boom-boom she got dressed in a hurry, and got all pissy when I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol
First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.[/QUOTE]
It's surprising that u didn't finalized the price before heading to room. I'v picked girls from the beach rd for 400 to 700, depends on looks and ages. Sometimes 1000 from the Walking Street also.
Ur act is not appreciatable, because of the girl hv the right to make price for herself, u r not. If not accepted u hv the right to make ur own choice but not to be a burden for her.
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All Kidding Aside!
[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]I offered her 500b. She wanted 700. I told her no, and she got out her cell phone and asks in a ominous voice: "You sure you don't want to pay?" I was pretty sure, I must admit. So she goes out saying: "Ok, kill you." lol[/QUOTE]
Mrpurpler, I'm a devout and notorious Cheap Charlie, but for an extra six bucks, I think I would have made her happy.
For a couple of reasons. First, she will certainly try to poison your relationships with other beach road girls. You will still be able to pull, of course, but you will be labled as "bad" and it is likely to affect your future activities in a negative manner.
Second, some of these girls are crazy and have nothing to lose, or have some very wicked friends. And I mean truly evil, worse than anything most of us can imagine. I've met a few of these psycho's and they are extremely scary people. The science of cruelty and revenge in Asia is a highly developed art.
It isn't really likely, but if you are unlucky, you truly could have a large bottle of Singha broken over your head as you sit sipping a pina colada at your favorite watering hole. Or wake up in intensive care and not have a clue how you got there. Or worse.
Be careful out there. ALWAYS agree to a price in advance.
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[QUOTE=Naughty]
Second, some of these girls are crazy and have nothing to lose, or have some very wicked friends. And I mean truly evil, worse than anything most of us can imagine. I've met a few of these psycho's and they are extremely scary people. The science of cruelty and revenge in Asia is a highly developed art.
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Maybe he should read Bangkok Tattoo.
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[QUOTE=Naughty]Mrpurpler, I'm a devout and notorious Cheap Charlie, but for an extra six bucks, I think I would have made her happy.
It isn't really likely, but if you are unlucky, you truly could have a large bottle of Singha broken over your head as you sit sipping a pina colada at your favorite watering hole. Or wake up in intensive care and not have a clue how you got there. Or worse.
Be careful out there. ALWAYS agree to a price in advance.[/QUOTE]If you took her back to your, best change hotels. Had a buddy who had a similar problem, the girl waited outside of the hotel and one night. You guessed it, bottle of Leo across the head. Ended up costing him 10,000 baht for medical treatment.
Hp
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[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]First time I've had this problem, all the other girls have been happy with 500/1000, and most were better looking than her. However, I think all the others were from Isaan.[/QUOTE]
My recent trip was my first to Pattaya. I did several Beach Road girls and I didn't mention negotiate price at all. I didn't want to come off as a newbie and none of them brought up price either. Typically I just handed them 500 and they said "thanks" and left. A couple were really good and I gave them one or two hundred more. The last one, right before I was getting my bus to leave, asked for 1000 after. I was kind of surprised but she was really good and did everything I asked and I had about 800 in my wallet (the rest was in the safe) so I handed her that. I didn't want to open the safe so I told her I had to cash a travelers check when I got to Bangkok so that was all the cash I had. She was happy with it. I probably would have given her a good tip anyway, but it did bug me that she asked for 1000.
I think next time I go I will set the price up front, it does sound like a better idea. It did seem like they all said they were from Isaan too.
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Beach prices
[QUOTE=Methos]My recent trip was my first to Pattaya. I did several Beach Road girls and I didn't mention negotiate price at all. I didn't want to come off as a newbie and none of them brought up price either. Typically I just handed them 500 and they said "thanks" and left. A couple were really good and I gave them one or two hundred more. The last one, right before I was getting my bus to leave, asked for 1000 after. I was kind of surprised but she was really good and did everything I asked and I had about 800 in my wallet (the rest was in the safe) so I handed her that. I didn't want to open the safe so I told her I had to cash a travelers check when I got to Bangkok so that was all the cash I had. She was happy with it. I probably would have given her a good tip anyway, but it did bug me that she asked for 1000.
I think next time I go I will set the price up front, it does sound like a better idea. It did seem like they all said they were from Isaan too.[/QUOTE]
The "going rate on Beach Road is 500B, but increasingly the premium girl: cute 18-23 slim who following various police clamp downs are much more difficult to find then in previous years are holding out for premium rates of 600-800B short time (one shot). Some of the cutest girls are not 18 yet or dont have valid ID s allowing them to go to the better hotels, they will typically be keen to go for 500B. The plumpsters are generally servicing the Indian/Pakistani/Iraqi/Iranian market who will often haggle for 300-400B or 2 guys for 600B type deals. Most of the girls are OK with a bit of bartering. You need to be clear up front what you expect eg blow job without condom + fuck with condom (standard), anything additional is likely to require a tip.
In a sign of the times you typcally wont see the Chinese guys go anywhere near the Beach raod girls, they will BF perfect little 18-21 year old cuties from the big walking street gogos probably paying 2000-3000 in total
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[QUOTE=Mrpurpler]You might have gotten the impression that I treated the girl badly, and thus want to put a scare in me, but there is no need for that.
Obviously a pennyless streetwalker doesn't have the resources to track me or anybody else down, such things cost a lot of money. It would be no small feat at that, seeing as how she doesn't know my name or home country.
I'll negotiate price beforehand from now on, that's for sure.[/QUOTE]
Sorry the only part of my post that was serious was the first sentence, basically that if you don't set the price beforehand, you lose your bargaining power and are at the mercy of her pressure tactics, like in this case. Just there's a good chance you'll have a bad scene afterwards (one of their main tactics in these situations), which for me at least kind of ruins the enjoyment of the whole thing.
But the rest of my post was meant to be silly/absurd. I should have put a smiley winky face after it. Of course she can't track you down -- only way she probably would be able to do that would be if you stayed in the same hotel you took her to. And even then, I highly doubt she's gonna f%@#! with you over 200 baht.
Still, if it was me, I would've just paid her the 200 or else agreed to meet her in the middle at 600, as long as she was willing to. I would've just kicked myself for not setting the price before hand. I still do that sometimes, by the way, but if a girl does pull that tactic afterward, then I blame myself for not controlling it better.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]The "going rate on Beach Road is 500B, but increasingly the premium girl: cute 18-23 slim who following various police clamp downs are much more difficult to find then in previous years are holding out for premium rates of 600-800B short time (one shot). Some of the cutest girls are not 18 yet or dont have valid ID s allowing them to go to the better hotels, they will typically be keen to go for 500B. The plumpsters are generally servicing the Indian/Pakistani/Iraqi/Iranian market who will often haggle for 300-400B or 2 guys for 600B type deals. Most of the girls are OK with a bit of bartering. You need to be clear up front what you expect eg blow job without condom + fuck with condom (standard), anything additional is likely to require a tip.
In a sign of the times you typcally wont see the Chinese guys go anywhere near the Beach raod girls, they will BF perfect little 18-21 year old cuties from the big walking street gogos probably paying 2000-3000 in total[/QUOTE]
Hey I'm Chinese and I go down to Beach Rd. all the time and stick to the prices just like the rest of you guys! Heh Heh! I sit and watch and steak out my pray / tell them what I want and where to go... if they go for it... and provide what has been agree to and go beyond the call of duty... they get a extra tip. I tell them up front everything... they decide... if not.... more fishes in the sea to fry! Don't get mad just move on... attitude is important on both sides.
LBM
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Promoting Pattaya?
Amateur journalism attempt to counter those negative views so many people including Maxim Magazine have of Pattaya. They certainly didn’t do the best job of presenting their case nor did they use the most persuasive communicators to enhance their counter points however; there are some important messages in this series once you get pass the self-promotion and the un-necessary obvious points. Experienced Thai Historian probably won’t learn anything from this one and while it’s unlikely to change anyone’s view of the place, it does offer some good tips for novice travelers.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfIZZ97upqA[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl0HGSMLMi8[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swnkRFaP3Rg[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTaWWI3F44U[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mgrKSanX4[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9bdNRiYUXs[/url]
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Condo or house
Hi All,
I am looking for a house/condo to rent for minimum 4 weeks up to 12 weeks, would rather have something decent, have been driven mad by the agents in Pattaya, looking to spend 50k per month, or will spend more if better
Thanks in advance
Bob
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What Happened Last Night
Last night figure midnight had perhaps the most beautiful gal I ever had. And I've been doing this now over a decade. Like MY GAUD. Saw her and had to have her. She was on walking street eating come chicken. I always always negotiate price ahead of time. Always. Like a pro, offered her 500 for ST. She wanted 1000. I countered on 700 and she 900. She took 800. She 22 years, slim and perfect in every way. Her ass was perfect. Slim. Gorgeous. Had the body of a professional model. As I would say when back in the day, I'd eat a mile of her shit just to kiss her ass. And there very few women I say that about.
I had to eat her, and really went to town on her. I generally do not do this to the SWs. Disease possibility. However, she smelled perfect. And OMG. Gorgeous perfect gal in every way. If I ever saw her anywhere in life, I would just drool. Even during my college years, she would be the type dating the captian of the football team. And here she was, right in front of me, lets spread eagle.
Surprisingly she gave good head, and I then just pounded her like heck. Put her ass on the pillow to raise it, since she was so small, and went all out on her like tomorrow would never cum. Man, just a great night. Then she wanted to leave, naturally asking for 1000 baht, but no, I gave her the 800 as we agreed, and I have her phone number for a later romping if I like. She left happy and said if I ever want her back to call her and she'll come running her sweet little ass over.
Tipping these girls is for suckers only. You want to tip them. Take them shopping, or for food. Or take their phone and text them at a later time.
Here in Pattaya, there are only two people I tip. First is the waiter, when I go out to eat, which is not a lot. Second is the hotel maid. Always always tip the maid. Yea, my hotel is 500 baht/night, and give 50. 100 baht to the person who actually deserves it.
OK.
Then woke up at 4: AM. Stiffy up. Anyway, qucikly made it to WS again walked outside and w/in half an hour got another gal. This one Chinese. Light skin. Tall. From Chang Rai. Experienced at 29 years. She was nice also. Cannot complain. She was larger w/ bigger tits. Lots more makeup. Thick and healthy legs. Would not consider DATY w/ her cause she had kid and not perfect, but she still made for a great romping.
Am now boarding dry when cummmming. Too much banging. Every day for past 20 days, 2-3 times make your that way I guess.
Damn I hate it here in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=All About Bob]Hi All,
I am looking for a house/condo to rent for minimum 4 weeks up to 12 weeks, would rather have something decent, have been driven mad by the agents in Pattaya, looking to spend 50k per month, or will spend more if better
Thanks in advance
Bob[/QUOTE]I think the Fair Properties website has a decent selection of properties with prices. I have never used them so I don't know much about them.
[url]http://www.fairproperties.com[/url]
I am staying in a furnished studio at Jomtien Beach Condominium. I paid 50k for 6 months, 8k deposit. t is small and simple, but I am pleased with it so far. It is about a 30 minutes baht bus ride to Walking Street.
[url]http://www.jomtienbeachcondominium.com[/url]
My landlord owns several condos at Jomtien Beach Condominium that he rents. He also arranges rentals from other property owners, I think he charges them a finder's fee, so that would be more expensive for you then dealing directly with property owners. He is an American guy and has been good for the couple of weeks I have known him. PM me if you want his contact information.
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Koh chang
Hi guys,
As a newb I got some questions wich I couldn't find anywhere else, for my purposes (mongering).
I am planning to visit Koh chang this summer, I was wondering if I should bring my own female company from Pattaya or just find one on the island.
I know its personal preference, but what do you guys think?
From what I already know, the island is not very monger-friendly. Caters more to families and not many bars. Maybe the guys that has been there recently can fill us in about the ins and outs of koh chang, in a mongers perspective that is
Yours truly,
Datebayo
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[QUOTE=All About Bob]Hi All,
I am looking for a house/condo to rent for minimum 4 weeks up to 12 weeks, would rather have something decent, have been driven mad by the agents in Pattaya, looking to spend 50k per month, or will spend more if better
Thanks in advance
Bob[/QUOTE]
50K/month? Somebody set him up in one of the king's palaces!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]50K/month? Somebody set him up in one of the king's palaces![/QUOTE]
Not that much, if it's 50K baht.
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[QUOTE=Datebayo]I am planning to visit Koh chang this summer, I was wondering if I should bring my own female company from Pattaya or just find one on the island.
Datebayo[/QUOTE]I was just in Ko Chang in February and I brought a girl I met on a previous trip. Each night we went out we stopped at bars that had plenty of women working there. I would not hesitate going without a girl next time, I saw plenty there and the good thing is they have less guys to choose from due to the fact everyone thinks the island is BYOP.
Off subject......it is a beautiful island so rent a scooter and check it out!
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Not that much, if it's 50K baht.[/QUOTE]
I guess to some it seems like anything over $1000 is practically living like a king.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]Should start on April 13th and last +/- one week.
Possible but in Bangkok it is not much safer than in Pattaya, just shorter (3 days "only").[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the info!
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[QUOTE=Wendella]I guess to some it seems like anything over $1000 is practically living like a king.[/QUOTE]
That was in the past... right now if your are talking U.S. dollars / 50,000 at current exchange rate give or take here and there. We are talking at less $1500/$1600.00 USD a month.
If he has 50,000 baht to spend on just a place to live.. then based on the way things are here. Who can you really trust issues? If what Datebayo wrote I would highly contact him. Experience and word of month is your best bet.
LBM
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I wouldn't say that 50.000 THB a months is much for a decent Hotel room. Ok, there are decent appartments for 30.000 THB a months, even on beach road, near walking street. But, if you book a room at a 3 or 4 star Hotel in south Pattaya expect to pay 1200 - 2000 THB a day. For example Dynasty Inn in Soi 13 will be around 1300 - 1400 THB. I would rate it as a 3 star Hotel, clean, but no internet in the rooms at higher floor.
Nova Platinum will be about 1600-1800 Bath and this is with wifi at room.
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Daytime Gogos
Hey Guys,
Not been on the site for a while but just catching up as I fly back to Patts on Fri. I try not to read the site inbetween trips as I just get depressed at all you bastards sh*gging all my girlfriends when I'm away!! :-)
Taking a friend for his first time this trip. God it will be like seeing a kid on christmas morning. :-) I'm envious of him.
Anyway, Apart from my usual lunchtime haunt, TQ, what other gogos are open in the afternoon now. I haven't been there for 4 months.
Thanks guys.
JohnTheScot
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Daytime Gogos
This website has a lot of information about gogos such as opening hours, although it is not always up to date:
[url]http://www.Pattayagogos.com[/url]
These are the ones that I am familiar with:
Tahitian Queen, Beach Road near soi 13
New Star GoGo, soi Diamond near Super Girl GoGo
Nui's Club 2 GoGo, Walking Street
These two on soi 13/2 tend to have lower quality girls:
Club Nevada
Far East Rock GoGo
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Warning
I am staying at Pattaya right now and I am not a regular writer here. I stayed here for 5 months so I can say I am " experienced ". They would not easily trick me
Nevertheless 4 days ago I took my number so and so from Beach road and she succeeded at late night in a flash of a moment (15 seconds not being attentive is enough)to put something in my drink. Being unconscious. " sleep " for 10 hours and my apartment was robbed by 3 rats from beachroad. (the two assistents came later as the video showed later vaguely)
I just tell it here to warn all of You!. And don't say that it will not happen to you because I can tell you I am not an old tart or something. And I it happens a lot.
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[QUOTE=Johnfits] And don't say that it will not happen to you because I can tell you I am not an old tart or something. And I it happens a lot.[/QUOTE]
Happened to me once. Nothing was stolen because there was nothing to steal. That is the best protection against theft. Either have nothing of value or keep it in a safe.
The stupid c**ts didn't even get their ST fee because it was in a small pocket of my jeans and I guess they didn't find it.
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[QUOTE=DG69]I wouldn't say that 50.000 THB a months is much for a decent Hotel room. Ok, there are decent appartments for 30.000 THB a months, even on beach road, near walking street. But, if you book a room at a 3 or 4 star Hotel in south Pattaya expect to pay 1200 - 2000 THB a day. For example Dynasty Inn in Soi 13 will be around 1300 - 1400 THB. I would rate it as a 3 star Hotel, clean, but no internet in the rooms at higher floor.
Nova Platinum will be about 1600-1800 Bath and this is with wifi at room.[/QUOTE]
Paying for a whole month (or even longer) in advance in a hotel, you can get some serious discounts so 50K is definitely a lot.
And if you have time and look around, you can find really nice things for a lot less.
I've stayed 2 months in Purple House in soi khopai for example. They had just opened, I was the first tenant. There was an opening promotion for a nice 30sqm room with everything one needs: 5.000 bahts/month !!! No maid service but this wouldn't have been a problem if wished and would have cost about 3K/month. OK that was not a hotel but an apartment. Still, you're quoting 30K for apartments, that seems extremely expensive to me.
Similarly, very nice rooms and swimming pool at Bonkai Resort (soi Bonkai), I've stayed one month there last year and paid 12.000 bahts if memory serves. Maid service 3 times a week.
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Ko chang
[QUOTE=Datebayo]Hi guys,
I am planning to visit Koh chang this summer, I was wondering if I should bring my own female company from Pattaya or just find one on the island.
Datebayo[/QUOTE]
i am in ko chang now.
I reckon you will find something here.
not cheap place to be.
same as spain for me in general. Women same as pattaya.
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Old Tarts
[QUOTE=Johnfits]I just tell it here to warn all of You!. And don't say that it will not happen to you because I can tell you I am not an old tart or something. And I it happens a lot.[/QUOTE]
Please, guys, don't ever ever bring these girls to your own hotel room or apartment. Short time rooms are only 100-200 baht. So, the rules are simple:
1. Never bring any girl back to your own room, and
2. Never bring out more than you need for an evening
- in my case I never bring more than 1,500 baht.
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[QUOTE=Johnfits]I am staying at Pattaya right now and I am not a regular writer here. I stayed here for 5 months so I can say I am " experienced ". They would not easily trick me
Nevertheless 4 days ago I took my number so and so from Beach road and she succeeded at late night in a flash of a moment (15 seconds not being attentive is enough)to put something in my drink. Being unconscious. " sleep " for 10 hours and my apartment was robbed by 3 rats from beachroad. (the two assistents came later as the video showed later vaguely)
I just tell it here to warn all of You!. And don't say that it will not happen to you because I can tell you I am not an old tart or something. And I it happens a lot.[/QUOTE]
Yep.
Here's the latest article on the problem.
Is this your little sweetheart? She says she's done it 30 times.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/03/26/pattaya-sex-worker-drugs-rips-clients-blind/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Spanish Main]i am in ko chang now.
I reckon you will find something here.
not cheap place to be.
same as spain for me in general. Women same as pattaya.[/QUOTE]What do you mean not cheap place?
Compared to phuket it must be cheaper, right?
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Good Advice
[QUOTE=Opebo]Please, guys, don't ever ever bring these girls to your own hotel room or apartment. Short time rooms are only 100-200 baht. So, the rules are simple:
1. Never bring any girl back to your own room, and
2. Never bring out more than you need for an evening
- in my case I never bring more than 1,500 baht.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Opebo, that's some good advice especially for the FL, which I usually prefer! I'll be back again in a couple of weeks I'm going to do exactly that, but where did you find a short time room for 100-200 baht? Maybe I'm wrong since it's been a while, but I thought I remember paying more like 400 to 500. At any rate, you gave some good advice. Thanks.
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daytime
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Hey Guys,
Not been on the site for a while but just catching up as I fly back to Patts on Fri. I try not to read the site inbetween trips as I just get depressed at all you bastards sh*gging all my girlfriends when I'm away!! :-)
Taking a friend for his first time this trip. God it will be like seeing a kid on christmas morning. :-) I'm envious of him.
Anyway, Apart from my usual lunchtime haunt, TQ, what other gogos are open in the afternoon now. I haven't been there for 4 months.
Thanks guys.
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]Also Classroom Soi 13/xx should fit your bill
Sure enough you find daytime gogos on Soi 6 like betty boops and kiss cool, but they are very short time oriented.
Maybe thats exactly what you look for anyway.
Mike
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[QUOTE=Nefarious]Thanks Opebo, that's some good advice especially for the FL, which I usually prefer! I'll be back again in a couple of weeks I'm going to do exactly that, but where did you find a short time room for 100-200 baht? Maybe I'm wrong since it's been a while, but I thought I remember paying more like 400 to 500. At any rate, you gave some good advice. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
PS Guesthouse Soi Yamato. Beach Road end
But ask the girls - they know them all
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Please, guys, don't ever ever bring these girls to your own hotel room or apartment. Short time rooms are only 100-200 baht. So, the rules are simple:
1. Never bring any girl back to your own room, and
2. Never bring out more than you need for an evening
- in my case I never bring more than 1,500 baht.[/QUOTE]
Point 2 is what I do too.
But I usually bring girls back to my hotel room when I'm in Pattaya, Bangkok, etc. As I explained in a previous report, I simply insist on the girls dropping off their ID card at the hotel reception, and require that the staff makes a phone call to my room when the girls are about to leave in order to check that everything is fine before giving them back their ID card.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Yep.
Here's the latest article on the problem.
Is this your little sweetheart? She says she's done it 30 times.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/03/26/pattaya-sex-worker-drugs-rips-clients-blind/[/url][/QUOTE]
I just hope nothing bad happens to me in Pattaya, to have my photo end up in the Pattaya online news for all the world to see.
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[QUOTE=Bob Down]I just hope nothing bad happens to me in Pattaya, to have my photo end up in the Pattaya online news for all the world to see.[/QUOTE]
Then don't do anything "bad" and you will be ok. Of the millions of travelers who visit Pattaya every year, the few who end up in the news are the ones who let their guards down.
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Contrarian I guess
[quote=opebo]please, guys, don't ever ever bring these girls to your own hotel room or apartment. short time rooms are only 100-200 baht. so, the rules are simple:
1. never bring any girl back to your own room, and
2. never bring out more than you need for an evening
- in my case i never bring more than 1,500 baht.[/quote]
strange cause i live with the exact opposite approach. i've never been in a short time room, unless you call the bj rooms at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] a short time room.
i guess everyone does it differently but your use of the word "never" in point 1 is obviously overwhelmingly ignored by the monger population of pattaya.
i have never had an incident of any kind taking freelancers from all over asia.
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prices
[QUOTE=Datebayo]What do you mean not cheap place?
Compared to phuket it must be cheaper, right?[/QUOTE]
Rooms - 300 baht + simple and clean, fan no a/c, not near beach
900 baht + - simple and clean, fan not a/c, on beach
1200 up - resort rooms
street food around 50 baht, noodle soup or chicken and rice
simple restaurant 100 baht and up
drinks extra
oil massage 300 baht 1 hour extras difficult to find
bar girls around 1000 inc bf ST room not inc
Much better place to be than Pattaya or Phuket ( been there around 10 times)
Chang 50 - 60 baht, Heiniken 60 and up
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Devil´s Den
In Pattaya go to Devil´s Den. 3800, 2 girls good quality, expensive but reliable. 3 vodkas and a beer inc ( all for me)
The girls will take anything you want to do to them. check out website
[url]www.devilsdenpattaya.com[/url]
Bar girls are shy, GoGos talk bollocks
General rule in my experience
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[QUOTE=Spanish Main]In Pattaya go to Devil´s Den. 3800, 2 girls good quality, expensive but reliable.[/QUOTE]
I fully agree with you Spanish... i went there twice on my last visit to thailand in november and had great time!!!
I wonder why there are so few reports from DD here...
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Then don't do anything "bad" and you will be ok. Of the millions of travelers who visit Pattaya every year, the few who end up in the news are the ones who let their guards down.[/QUOTE]
I don't expect anything to go wrong on any of my holidays, but you can never say never. I like to keep a low profile, can't say I have see any FL on beach road that have taken my fancy. That seems to be the problem at the moment.
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Do you have any photos of this little stunner? Or how to find her?
[QUOTE=Popper1]Last night figure midnight had perhaps the most beautiful gal I ever had. And I've been doing this now over a decade. Like MY GAUD. Saw her and had to have her. She was on walking street eating come chicken. I always always negotiate price ahead of time. Always. Like a pro, offered her 500 for ST. She wanted 1000. I countered on 700 and she 900. She took 800. She 22 years, slim and perfect in every way. Her ass was perfect. Slim. Gorgeous. Had the body of a professional model. As I would say when back in the day, I'd eat a mile of her shit just to kiss her ass. And there very few women I say that about.
I had to eat her, and really went to town on her. I generally do not do this to the SWs. Disease possibility. However, she smelled perfect. And OMG. Gorgeous perfect gal in every way. If I ever saw her anywhere in life, I would just drool. Even during my college years, she would be the type dating the captian of the football team. And here she was, right in front of me, lets spread eagle.
Surprisingly she gave good head, and I then just pounded her like heck. Put her ass on the pillow to raise it, since she was so small, and went all out on her like tomorrow would never cum. Man, just a great night. Then she wanted to leave, naturally asking for 1000 baht, but no, I gave her the 800 as we agreed, and I have her phone number for a later romping if I like. She left happy and said if I ever want her back to call her and she'll come running her sweet little ass over.
Tipping these girls is for suckers only. You want to tip them. Take them shopping, or for food. Or take their phone and text them at a later time.
Here in Pattaya, there are only two people I tip. First is the waiter, when I go out to eat, which is not a lot. Second is the hotel maid. Always always tip the maid. Yea, my hotel is 500 baht/night, and give 50. 100 baht to the person who actually deserves it.
OK.
Then woke up at 4: AM. Stiffy up. Anyway, qucikly made it to WS again walked outside and w/in half an hour got another gal. This one Chinese. Light skin. Tall. From Chang Rai. Experienced at 29 years. She was nice also. Cannot complain. She was larger w/ bigger tits. Lots more makeup. Thick and healthy legs. Would not consider DATY w/ her cause she had kid and not perfect, but she still made for a great romping.
Am now boarding dry when cummmming. Too much banging. Every day for past 20 days, 2-3 times make your that way I guess.
Damn I hate it here in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Yep.
Here's the latest article on the problem.
Is this your little sweetheart? She says she's done it 30 times.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/03/26/pattaya-sex-worker-drugs-rips-clients-blind/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for your report daddy07. No, its not the one. We are busy making a cd from a (vague) video cam recording and I will in time try to place it here. In the meantime I have heard a LOt of same experiences here. Thanks again.
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[QUOTE=Bob Down]I just hope nothing bad happens to me in Pattaya, to have my photo end up in the Pattaya online news for all the world to C.[/QUOTE]be careful. I have close contact with some farangs who live here from 1/8 years and to say it politely: some of them do regret to have bought real estate here. Just for this reason.
I was lucky I can still write this email. "normally " in this case I would have been deah now and he police would report: "suicide" or "heart-attack ".
Easy isn't it?
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Still Learning After 20 Years
following on with the perils of the beach road and walking street theme.
beach road. here are 3 examples. one happened to me. the other 2 were friends.
1. walking along the beach road at around 3. 00 in the morning. a group of girls and lady boys approached. they joked, and at the same time, appeared to frisk me. as it was the end of the evening and, i had little money left, i ignored this and went back to my hotel. next morning, looking in the mirror, i realized my gold chain had gone.
2. around 1. 00 in the morning walking in the walking street. a lady boy persuaded me to go with her down a small side street and into a vacant construction site with the promise of a bj. inside the construction site i was forced to surrender the entire contents of my wallet.
3. it was my birthday and a friend called by my room with a present for me. a girl from the beach. he had paid her already. i wanted to give her something as well and left a few notes under the ash try. i went to the bathroom for about 1 minute. on my return she had gone. the notes under the ash tray remained. my wallet, in the back pocket of my jeans, gone.
for me now, if i need a short time, i always take a girl from a bar or night club where they are documented and, i never take them back to my house. i go to a hotel where guests are registered. i don't pay joiner fees but, i need to make sure that my guest leaves her id card with reception and, that she will not get it back again without my presence.
nine times out of ten you could be very lucky. you might find nine partners who provide you with a great time with very little expense. the tenth time could be different.
if you are picking up girls. watch out for drugs, like girls slipping a drug into your drink and cat fights.
if you are picking up lady boys. they might look sexy with very large breasts but, they can fight like a man. plus, their high heels, are a very effective weapon.
if you take them back to your house or condo remember, they could be casing your place for a future, uninvited, visit. especially, if they have been around a few times and, are known by your neighbors. the neighbors might not take any notice of them loading all your stuff on to a pick up and heading off up country.
the strays on the street could be stray for the following reasons:
1. they are hiv positive.
2. they are lazy.
3. run by pimps that are not just content with money. they want extras that can be obtained from the punters expense. be careful with **** scams.
pattaya has changed a lot over the years but, it is still a place where thais come from all over thailand to stay. tourists come from all over the world for holidays. some of the tourists never go home as they become ex-pats. the tourists come to spend money and the thais come to help the tourists spend money. as do some ex-pats. many of the girls that arrive, especially if you find them early, can be good loving partners. the ones that have been around a bit longer are more like business women. just make sure you pay them what they ask.
the current word on the immigration front is that they are clamping down on guest houses. if the owner doesn't register guests with immigration then the guest house owner and the guest are in big immigration trouble.
there is another reason to be careful going home at night. it's a new one for me. be careful what you have in your pockets. viagra, stuff like that for which you might not have a prescription. you could be a target for a police stop and search. possession of any kind of sex aids & drugs are major offences.
on the plus side. now it is mid term in thailand and universities and colleges are closed for a few months. lot of the students are in town to find ways to supplement their education costs. i have seen quite a few working in go-go bars. if you take one just make sure she is old enough.
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[b]re: posting tv/ts advisories[/b]
greetings everyone,
i am aware that the vast majority of references to transvestites or transsexuals are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup transvestites or transsexuals, etc. however, past discussions in the forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.
please do not post information about or references to transvestites or transsexuals in the forum. please read the forum's posting guidelines for further information.
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[QUOTE=Aussie Stu]Following on with the perils of the Beach Road and Walking Street theme.[/QUOTE]You should consider conducting a risk assessment of yourself and your activities from the moment you step out of bed, sure sounds like you need it. The three incidents you described could have been prevented if you did a risk assessment and took steps to minimize your risks/hazards.
[QUOTE=Aussie Stu]1. Walking along the Beach Road at around 3. 00 in the morning. A group of Girls and Lady Boys approached. They joked, and at the same time, appeared to frisk me. As it was the end of the evening and, I had little money left, I ignored this and went back to my hotel. Next morning, looking in the mirror, I realized my gold chain had gone.[/QUOTE]You wear Gold chain at 3AM on BR, why? You're inviting people to rob you.
[QUOTE=Aussie Stu]2. Around 1. 00 in the morning walking in the Walking Street. A Lady Boy persuaded me to go with her down a small side street and into a vacant construction site with the promise of a BJ. Inside the construction site I was forced to surrender the entire contents of my wallet..[/QUOTE]Setting aside the fact that it was a bad move to go with him to an unfamiliar location, how were you forced to surrender the contents of your wallet? BTW, did you at least receive the BJ?
[QUOTE=Aussie Stu]3. It was my birthday and a friend called by my room with a present for me. A girl from the beach. He had paid her already. I wanted to give her something as well and left a few notes under the ash try. I went to the bathroom for about 1 minute. On my return she had gone. The notes under the ash tray remained. My wallet, in the back pocket of my jeans, gone.[/QUOTE]Locking up all your valuables in your room safe could have prevented this theft. Never leave SPs out of your sight for a second, much less a minute.
[QUOTE=Aussie Stu]If you are picking up Lady Boys. They might look sexy with very large breasts but, they can fight like a man..[/QUOTE]That's because they are men.
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[quote=aussie stu]... the strays on the street could be stray for the following reasons:
1. they are hiv positive.
2. they are lazy.
3. run by pimps that are not just content with money. they want extras that can be obtained from the punters expense. be careful with **** scams...[/quote]this has been discussed numerous times by several members, so, i will just quote daddy07 from an earlier report:
[quote=daddy07]... there are loads of reasons why many cute girls don't want to work at a bar. they don't want a job requiring their presense in one spot 8 hours a day 6 or 7 days a week, and be docked pay for not showing up.
they don't want to be docked pay just because they didn't meet their quota of lady drinks and bar fines for that month.
they might have another day job or go to school so they only want to "work" part time and when they feel like it.
they might have a baby to take care of so can only "work" sporadically.
they might need only enough money to pay the rent, so they "work" only when the rent is due...[/quote]as i wrote earlier, common sense is your best protection, not a barfine.
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reading your report, i noticed that you and your friends made several obvious mistakes, as already mentioned by run mann.
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Back in Pattaya soon for the weekend!
Coming to Pattaya for the weekend, have been away for a few years. Want to make sure the same daily protocol can still be put into place:
1. Daytime freelancers walking up the beach (emphasis on walking-the sedentary ones are usually lifers).
2. Massage shops up sidestreet from Walking Street and Beach RD. HJ upon request.
3. Fishbowl in Diamond Beach Hotel.
4. CATZ and other Go-Go's with whirlpool action, and girl on girl shows.
5. Lucifer freelancers after 10pm (or earlier).
6. Marine Disco after 2pm (when Go-Go girls are finished).
7. Tony's After hours and (another one I can't remember but trannies like to lurk in the darkness).
What am I missing? Any new spots? Got limited time so need to get my strategy down . . .
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]...What am I missing? Any new spots? Got limited time so need to get my strategy down . . .[/QUOTE]
All is largely as you remember it, except that "Catz" is now "Toyz," and "Insomnia" is probably the most popular late night disco.
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[QUOTE=Aussie Stu]
2. Around 1. 00 in the morning walking in the Walking Street. A Lady Boy persuaded me to go with her down a small side street and into a vacant construction site with the promise of a BJ. Inside the construction site I was forced to surrender the entire contents of my wallet.[/QUOTE]I really try to avoid criticising fellow mongers, but you did what?! Words fail me...
Would you do that in Sydney, or anywhere else in the world? If not, why do you think it would be safe to do it in Pattaya?
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well said aussie stu. i would like to add something more for those pussy connoisseurs.
if you want to enjoy sex, at least giving your dick a good treat, keep this in mind: thousands and thousands of tourists from all of over the world visit pattaya and especially from europe. european standard for a sexy lady is the following: she must be skinny, thin, small and yellowish. most thai ladies have these features. some of them are attractive. my advice to you, in particular if you are pussy conscious, avoid them. don’t be attracted to them. they are frigid because they are taken out frequently and moreover, their pussies are useless, you will be digging in a wide hole. go for plumpy and fattish ones who are never taken by europeans; you will really enjoy having sex with them. their pussies are tight and they quiver in your hands like fish out of water. you won't find these ladies in all bars; however, some bars do have one or two. look for them and taste them, then remember my words.
[quote=aussie stu]following on with the perils of the beach road and walking street theme.
beach road. here are 3 examples. one happened to me. the other 2 were friends.
1. walking along the beach road at around 3. 00 in the morning. a group of girls and lady boys approached. they joked, and at the same time, appeared to frisk me. as it was the end of the evening and, i had little money left, i ignored this and went back to my hotel. next morning, looking in the mirror, i realized my gold chain had gone.
2. around 1. 00 in the morning walking in the walking street. a lady boy persuaded me to go with her down a small side street and into a vacant construction site with the promise of a bj. inside the construction site i was forced to surrender the entire contents of my wallet.
3. it was my birthday and a friend called by my room with a present for me. a girl from the beach. he had paid her already. i wanted to give her something as well and left a few notes under the ash try. i went to the bathroom for about 1 minute. on my return she had gone. the notes under the ash tray remained. my wallet, in the back pocket of my jeans, gone.
for me now, if i need a short time, i always take a girl from a bar or night club where they are documented and, i never take them back to my house. i go to a hotel where guests are registered. i don't pay joiner fees but, i need to make sure that my guest leaves her id card with reception and, that she will not get it back again without my presence.
nine times out of ten you could be very lucky. you might find nine partners who provide you with a great time with very little expense. the tenth time could be different.
if you are picking up girls. watch out for drugs, like girls slipping a drug into your drink and cat fights.
if you are picking up lady boys. they might look sexy with very large breasts but, they can fight like a man. plus, their high heels, are a very effective weapon.
if you take them back to your house or condo remember, they could be casing your place for a future, uninvited, visit. especially, if they have been around a few times and, are known by your neighbors. the neighbors might not take any notice of them loading all your stuff on to a pick up and heading off up country.
the strays on the street could be stray for the following reasons:
1. they are hiv positive.
2. they are lazy.
3. run by pimps that are not just content with money. they want extras that can be obtained from the punters expense. be careful with **** scams.
pattaya has changed a lot over the years but, it is still a place where thais come from all over thailand to stay. tourists come from all over the world for holidays. some of the tourists never go home as they become ex-pats. the tourists come to spend money and the thais come to help the tourists spend money. as do some ex-pats. many of the girls that arrive, especially if you find them early, can be good loving partners. the ones that have been around a bit longer are more like business women. just make sure you pay them what they ask.
the current word on the immigration front is that they are clamping down on guest houses. if the owner doesn't register guests with immigration then the guest house owner and the guest are in big immigration trouble.
there is another reason to be careful going home at night. it's a new one for me. be careful what you have in your pockets. viagra, stuff like that for which you might not have a prescription. you could be a target for a police stop and search. possession of any kind of sex aids & drugs are major offences.
on the plus side. now it is mid term in thailand and universities and colleges are closed for a few months. lot of the students are in town to find ways to supplement their education costs. i have seen quite a few working in go-go bars. if you take one just make sure she is old enough.[/quote]
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For an Edenesque experience...
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]6. Marine Disco after 2pm (when Go-Go girls are finished).What am I missing? Any new spots? Got limited time so need to get my strategy down . . .[/QUOTE]
...Google the Devils Den.
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Oh dear!
[QUOTE=Aussie Stu]Following on with the perils of the Beach Road and Walking Street theme.
2. Around 1. 00 in the morning walking in the Walking Street. A Lady Boy persuaded me to go with her down a small side street and into a vacant construction site with the promise of a BJ. Inside the construction site I was forced to surrender the entire contents of my wallet.
.[/QUOTE]
Sorry mate, but the word that comes into my head is TWAT!
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Devil´s Den
[QUOTE=Naughty]...Google the Devils Den.[/QUOTE]
Sadly...shuts at midnight.
Need to be there by 9pm to have a chance
WORTH IT THOUGH!
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To the Pattaya guys in the know. What info do you have on the following:
1. Viagra and similar stuff: Is this provided by the men in brown who, keep a watch on the customers and, shake them down later?
2. Undercover Falangs Setting up Tourists: Falangs, down on their luck and, possibily in trouble with immigration. Being used to trap tourists. Maybe supplying them with Viagra. The toursit then gets caught and the Falang drives off in a new pick up?
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[QUOTE=Gordy29]To the Pattaya guys in the know. What info do you have on the following:
1. Viagra and similar stuff: Is this provided by the men in brown who, keep a watch on the customers and, shake them down later?
2. Undercover Falangs Setting up Tourists: Falangs, down on their luck and, possibily in trouble with immigration. Being used to trap tourists. Maybe supplying them with Viagra. The toursit then gets caught and the Falang drives off in a new pick up?[/QUOTE]
1. ??????????????
2. ??????????????
What kind of question is this suppose to be? it's not like you are buying Yaba! If you are going to the extreme over Viagra then you should think about never coming!
LBM
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On the Stickman site I've read about a certain police scam where they'll stop a foreigner at the bus station en route to or arriving from Pattaya and search bags: if they find Viagra or other drugs and the guy has no prescription for it, they threaten to take him to the station unless he pays his "fine" on the spot. I seem to remember also reading about a certain section of Sukhumvit where they might pull the same thing, but don't quote me. Anyone else remember reading that? It also could have been on another forum.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]On the Stickman site I've read about a certain police scam where they'll stop a foreigner at the bus station en route to or arriving from Pattaya and search bags: if they find Viagra or other drugs and the guy has no prescription for it, they threaten to take him to the station unless he pays his "fine" on the spot.[/QUOTE]Didn't read it but it happened to my travel buddy near his hotel on Khao San. He had a 3 valium on him which he got from the pharmacy. They said no prescrip then go to jail (or $50). He refused and they put him in jail for 3 days before he paid but by then they said $500 and he still argued them to $250. He woulda been better off paying on the spot.
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[QUOTE=Spanish Main]Sadly...shuts at midnight.
Need to be there by 9pm to have a chance
WORTH IT THOUGH![/QUOTE]
Yeah, It's true.
On a one 10.00 p.m. night I decided to visit Devils Den. I make phone call and the guy on other side, noticed it is closed but I can visit the place to book my date for the next day and I did. I booked Hom and Tum(this girl was available on that time) for the next day, on 12.0 a.m. Price 3600bht for 90min; if I like I can extend the time for another 30min for 400bht more.
On next day 12.00 a.m a kick of meeting was on proceeding with the owner and all the girls in their Bar room. Off course I didn’t mind for the awaiting more 15min.
I can say, the girls are professional, works hard to please u. They can do anything what u ask for. Even they r ready to do on you with an artificial cock (yeek, I didn’t tried for that, lol) also. All in all u can’t complain for any thing.
For me ? That was my bad date. On the booking night Mis Tum was looked very stunning to me (Her body not face) but during mid session she told me her super round boobs are artificial. Even I was prepared for extra 30min but after hearing that it makes me very much off and I finished the session with a full mouth of sour
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What the F**k!!!
I just read a report at [url]www.pattayaone.net/news[/url] that the tax on <12% alc. beverages was going to be raised by a further 20B per 100 ml!!! 40B/100 for the hard stuff.
Holy crap! That's over $3/liter, US, added to the already somewhat high price for brew in Siam.
Is this true? If so, tourism in the LOS is OVER!!!!
EDIT! I just realized it's now April 1, (not yet here though) in Pattaya!!!!
NYUK, NYUK!
I got punked!!!
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[QUOTE=Sami29]... My advice to you, in particular if you are pussy conscious, avoid them. Don’t be attracted to them. They are frigid because they are taken out frequently and moreover, their pussies are useless, you will be digging in a wide hole. Go for plumpy and fattish ones who are never taken by Europeans; you will really enjoy having sex with them. Their pussies are tight and they quiver in your hands like fish out of water...[/QUOTE]
555! That's a good one! So, if I read correctly between the lines, you would like that all the other punters come here to fuck the fat ones, (and then, leaving the slim and sexy ones available for you alone?), and you believe that most of them are going to follow your advice? What kind of shaky argument is it? Nice try, but if it were true, everybody should rather stay at home and chase the ugliest girls: as almost nobody wants to fuck them, they surely have (according to you) the tightest pussies. Be careful though: if you succeed to start a new trend, even the fat and ugly ones will soon have a "wide hole" too instead of a nice and tight pussy! :D
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[quote=aussie stu]... but, obviously you are a 'pattaya pro. ' any new guys coming to town make sure you hook up with rain man to learn the pattaya ropes...[/quote]
you don't have to be a "pro", you just need to have a functional brain and some common sense in order to fully and safely enjoy pattaya and other red light districts in the land of smiles. sure, if you act stupidly, you will get into trouble sooner or later. everywhere, and not only with freelancers from beach road or walking street!
granted, it might be a little bit safer with girls working in a bar for those who are sometimes too drunk (or born too dumb) to take a few basic precautions, but paying a barfine does not garantee you that you won't have any problem. shit can also happen with go-go and bar girls. i already mentioned several sad stories that happened with girls picked up in bars in a previous report, but here's just one example: [url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/2768/cats-go-go-bar-raided-by-police-****-employees-found/[/url]
there's plenty of good advices available in this forum and elsewhere for the newbies, so, just read them if you are new to the game in thailand. the land of smiles is still a relatively safe place for mongering, even with freelancers (most of them are honest girls, the bad ones and the thieves are a very little minority), provided that you don't act like a fool.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]On the Stickman site I've read about a certain police scam where they'll stop a foreigner at the bus station en route to or arriving from Pattaya and search bags: if they find Viagra or other drugs and the guy has no prescription for it, they threaten to take him to the station unless he pays his "fine" on the spot. I seem to remember also reading about a certain section of Sukhumvit where they might pull the same thing, but don't quote me. Anyone else remember reading that? It also could have been on another forum.[/QUOTE]
I was searched twice myself already in Ekkamai. Both times they asked for my passport but didn't even open it. Looks like the cover page is enough nowadays, I must come from a very important part of the world where every citizen is a VIP or something :) Anyhow:
The first time I enquired about their search and the guy explained to me that he was looking for viagra or other drugs. He found nothing.
The second time the officer found 1 1/2 kamagra pill. He explained to me that I could get into troubles, that I should get a prescription for next time but that the quantity found was small enough for him to let me go this time. He kept the stuff of course and I wished him a nice session at the arb ob nuat.
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[QUOTE=Sami29]They are frigid because they are taken out frequently and moreover, their pussies are useless, you will be digging in a wide hole. Go for plumpy and fattish ones who are never taken by Europeans; you will really enjoy having sex with them. Their pussies are tight and they quiver in your hands like fish out of water.[/QUOTE]
Are you somehow saying that Arabs, Indians and black guys have small cocks?
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[QUOTE=Sami29]You won't find these ladies in all bars; however, some bars do have one or two. [/QUOTE]
I know one gal in Pattaya who matches your specs and gets laid every other year. She would even pay you if you shag her (she's done it before). Interested? PM me...
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Anyone been searched at Ekkamai and been found with actual vitamins? Would that be a problem?
I always travel with enough vitamins for a couple weeks.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Anyone been searched at Ekkamai and been found with actual vitamins? Would that be a problem?
I always travel with enough vitamins for a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]
Haven't read 3 posts back before asking?
Put them in a safe place before arriving at Ekkamai and you'll be okay. FYI the small pocket above the right pocket of your jeans isn't exactly safe, in fact it's probably the least safe place, it's the place they checked directly both times. 2nd was the pack of cigs.
[QUOTE=Mart Cham]I was searched twice myself already in Ekkamai. Both times they asked for my passport but didn't even open it. Looks like the cover page is enough nowadays, I must come from a very important part of the world where every citizen is a VIP or something :) Anyhow:
The first time I enquired about their search and the guy explained to me that he was looking for viagra or other drugs. He found nothing.
The second time the officer found 1 1/2 kamagra. He explained to me that I could get into troubles, that I should get a prescription for next time but that the quantity found was small enough for him to let me go this time. He kept the stuff of course and I wished him a nice session at the arb ob nuat.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Anyone been searched at Ekkamai and been found with actual vitamins? Would that be a problem?
I always travel with enough vitamins for a couple weeks.[/QUOTE]
Were you actually talking about normal vitamins like vitamin A, B, C, etc.?
If that's the case, that wouldn't be a prob. They know their stuff and they know what they are looking for. The second time they searched me I had many other kinds of pills in my bag (asthma medication, various antibiotics, etc.) and he didn't even look twice at them.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]Haven't read 3 posts back before asking?
Put them in a safe place before arriving at Ekkamai and you'll be okay. FYI the small pocket above the right pocket of your jeans isn't exactly safe, in fact it's probably the least safe place, it's the place they checked directly both times. 2nd was the pack of cigs.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps one of the Thai speakers on the forum could help us out here about exactly what the law says but it is certainly the case that being in possession with certain drugs without a prescription in Thailand will land you in trouble with the law. Another Thai forum that has nothing to do with the hobby had a story a few weeks back that a young falang guy was facing 1 year in prison for possession of 2 valium tablets without a prescription. But exactly which medicines will land you in trouble is not clear!
I have heard many different stories about what is and what is not against the law. Some medicines are supposed to be available on prescription only in Thailand even though they are not controlled that way in some European countries. Or course, many Thai pharmacies do not seek a prescription. But that is no defense.
We should all contact the Tourism Authority of Thailand and ask which drugs require a prescription in Thailand and express our concern about the fact that the police are shaking down tourists in this way. Write to your newspapers and TV stations at home and even to the Thai embassy. Perhaps they will then get the message that just like all the other scams that go on in Thailand, this one will hurt their tourist numbers.
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[QUOTE=Simian]Perhaps one of the Thai speakers on the forum could help us out here about exactly what the law says but it is certainly the case that being in possession with certain drugs without a prescription in Thailand will land you in trouble with the law. Another Thai forum that has nothing to do with the hobby had a story a few weeks back that a young falang guy was facing 1 year in prison for possession of 2 valium tablets without a prescription. But exactly which medicines will land you in trouble is not clear!
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I happened to have such a list. Can't find it any more but shouldn't be a problem to get it.
[QUOTE=Simian]
I have heard many different stories about what is and what is not against the law. Some medicines are supposed to be available on prescription only in Thailand even though they are not controlled that way in some European countries. Or course, many Thai pharmacies do not seek a prescription. But that is no defense.
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Pharmacies in Thailand are not allowed to sell them either. They probably pay the police for that privilege. So should everyone do if caught carrying prescription drugs.
[QUOTE=Simian]
We should all contact the Tourism Authority of Thailand and ask which drugs require a prescription in Thailand and express our concern about the fact that the police are shaking down tourists in this way. Write to your newspapers and TV stations at home and even to the Thai embassy. Perhaps they will then get the message that just like all the other scams that go on in Thailand, this one will hurt their tourist numbers.[/QUOTE]
Oh come on, it is not really a scam and most people caught with prescription drugs in Thailand without having a proper prescription have actually bought them in Thailand. They have absolutely no right to possess these drugs, neither in Europe nor in Thailand. In Europe we're more lenient and control the supply side much more than the demand side but that does not mean that it is legal to buy them without a prescription.
To me such a campaign is an exaggeration.
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[QUOTE=Simian]Perhaps one of the Thai speakers on the forum could help us out here about exactly what the law says but it is certainly the case that being in possession with certain drugs without a prescription in Thailand will land you in trouble with the law. Another Thai forum that has nothing to do with the hobby had a story a few weeks back that a young falang guy was facing 1 year in prison for possession of 2 valium tablets without a prescription. But exactly which medicines will land you in trouble is not clear![/QUOTE]Apologies if this is a stupid question, but... For medical history reasons I travel with a few days' supply of opiate-based painkillers. They would certainly be illegal in Thailand if obtained without a prescription. My doctor prescribed them to me as a one-off prescription, and in order to receive them I handed that prescription into the pharmacy, so now I have no record of the prescription (this is the UK we're talking about). How do I cover myself? This must happen to others. Would a letter (in English) from my GP be enough to fend off the attention of the local police? Any thoughts?
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]... How do I cover myself? This must happen to others. Would a letter (in English) from my GP be enough to fend off the attention of the local police? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Why don't you go to a public hospital in Thailand (yes, foreigners can do that), explain your problem and get a prescription there from a local doctor? Public hospitals are really cheap in Thailand, even for foreigners, and it should not be very difficult to obtain the appropriate prescription, especially if you already know what you need.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1] Would a letter (in English) from my GP be enough to fend off the attention of the local police? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
A definite YES. Especially if u know that you have the right to possess such medicine. Stand your ground and keep this letter with you, no prob for sure.
FYI French prescriptions look like letters.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Why don't you go to a public hospital in Thailand (yes, foreigners can do that), explain your problem and get a prescription there from a local doctor? Public hospitals are really cheap in Thailand, even for foreigners, and it should not be very difficult to obtain the appropriate prescription, especially if you already know what you need.[/QUOTE]
I don't know which is the situation of Mouse1 but I wouldn't recommend a tourist to go to a public hospital if he can't speak Thai or isn't accompanied by someone who does. Been in several public hospitals and in none of them the staff, especially administrative, could speak English. Good luck with the registration as a patient if you can't explain your problem, fill out the registration form, etc.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]I don't know which is the situation of Mouse1 but I wouldn't recommend a tourist to go to a public hospital if he can't speak Thai or isn't accompanied by someone who does. Been in several public hospitals and in none of them the staff, especially administrative, could speak English. Good luck with the registration as a patient if you can't explain your problem, fill out the registration form, etc.[/QUOTE]
Of course, if you don't speak Thai, it's better to go to a public hospital accompanied by someone who can help you (or at least with a dictionary), but it's not a big deal.
It is true that the administrative staff at public hospitals often don't speak much English (if any), but the doctors usually do. What they ask in the registration form is very basic information: given names, surname, age, current location (the address of your hotel is sufficient if you are a tourist). They usually will check your weight and blood pressure. If you can't explain what is your problem to the administrative staff, they would very likely fetch one available doctor who can speak English to help.
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Fellas, Fellas,Now here is what I would do since I have been doing it for sometime. I will only speak of want I know when it comes to the U.S., with your legal percription from the U.S. take the original bottle with all the percription information on the bottle medicine that you obtain from Thailand into this bottle. F.Y.I. I have been doing this for years knowing several former employee friends and managers that are top TSA people now. In regards to this God help us all because these guys that run TSA now particularly in California are some real stupid idiots.
When going through through TSA, they look at my plastic bag with my so call percription bottle and neve have I had a problem. They're TSA no Doctors!When I come check points in Tawian, Japan, Thailand never have I ever been question. Asthma inhalers with the original U.S box I get replacement in Thailand and put them into the original percription box. My friends who are retired in Thailand do the same thing with their Viagra etc... and put them in old bottles.
Now in regards to hospital that speak English... in all the years never have I gone to a hospital in Pattaya, Bangkok/Pattaya have I ever from day one had a problem speaking only English myself been unable to gain access from registering or unable to explain or understand what I needed to convey to a Thai Doctor. From my experience from Dental to emergency been able to speak to a Doctor.Cost... you can see a Doctor for example at Bangkok/Pattaya total cost to get a percription would be 550 baht. That is ten minutes of their time.. tell them just like a American Doctor " you have having a hard time getting it up " At our age who is going to challenge that! right there your percription, a small wait then to the pill counter and pay your standard tap along with the medication. Tell the lady you want a copy of the percription!* Keep it! Keep the bottle for the future! now you can buy more on the street and still it into the original bottle. Now you have everything when you are stop! Percentage these guys can't even read a passport! They are basically stupid IMHO!
When it comes to Vitamins, I have brought in 10 to 15 bottles of Vitamins of various types. Been stop at the check point once and pay the dickhead 500 baht. Majority of the time even when it goes through the scanner they don't know what they are looking for... When you pack... put some here and put some there never all in same area. I wrap bottles in my dirty stain underwear, my carry on has a zipper area in the bottom and I put case of condoms and etc... zip it up... then I pack all my clothes in... spreading my dirty boxers throughout. If they can put up with the stains and you can put up the laughter it might all be worth it just to get a few pills through!
O.K. guys give it a try!* LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Fellas, Fellas,Now here is what I would do since I have been doing it for sometime. I will only speak of want I know when it comes to the U.S., with your legal percription from the U.S. take the original bottle with all the percription information on the bottle medicine that you obtain from Thailand into this bottle.
When going through through TSA, they look at my plastic bag with my so call percription bottle and neve have I had a problem. They're TSA no Doctors!When I come check points in Tawian, Japan, Thailand never have I ever been question. Asthma inhalers with the original U.S box I get replacement in Thailand and put them into the original percription box. My friends who are retired in Thailand do the same thing with their Viagra etc... and put them in old bottles.[/QUOTE]I kick myself for not thinking of this! Many thanks, you are a wise man. :)
(I don't think it would stand up in court but perfect for getting through customs or random searches, not that I have ever had problems with either.)
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]I don't know which is the situation of Mouse1 but I wouldn't recommend a tourist to go to a public hospital if he can't speak Thai or isn't accompanied by someone who does. Been in several public hospitals and in none of them the staff, especially administrative, could speak English. Good luck with the registration as a patient if you can't explain your problem, fill out the registration form, etc.[/QUOTE]I suspect that it would not be easy as I carry strong pain-killers just in case of a recurrence of a problem I had several months ago. So I can imagine it would be difficult to get a prescription for something that I am not suffering from right now. And very difficult to get opiate-based painkillers.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]A definite YES. Especially if u know that you have the right to possess such medicine. Stand your ground and keep this letter with you, no prob for sure.
FYI French prescriptions look like letters.[/QUOTE]... and finally, I went round to my GP today (phoned at 10.25am and got an appointment for 11am; bless the NHS) and he understandingly gave me a fresh prescription with a note from him authorising me to carry the drugs).
And I agree, standing your ground with respect to medicines that are 'genuine' is pretty important.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Apologies if this is a stupid question, but... For medical history reasons I travel with a few days' supply of opiate-based painkillers. They would certainly be illegal in Thailand if obtained without a prescription. My doctor prescribed them to me as a one-off prescription, and in order to receive them I handed that prescription into the pharmacy, so now I have no record of the prescription (this is the UK we're talking about). How do I cover myself? This must happen to others. Would a letter (in English) from my GP be enough to fend off the attention of the local police? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
You don't need the hand-written prescription from the doctor, you need the bottle it comes in with the prescription info on it.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Of course, if you don't speak Thai, it's better to go to a public hospital accompanied by someone who can help you (or at least with a dictionary), but it's not a big deal.
It is true that the administrative staff at public hospitals often don't speak much English (if any), but the doctors usually do. What they ask in the registration form is very basic information: given names, surname, age, current location (the address of your hotel is sufficient if you are a tourist). They usually will check your weight and blood pressure. If you can't explain what is your problem to the administrative staff, they would very likely fetch one available doctor who can speak English to help.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Evianist]You don't need the hand-written prescription from the doctor, you need the bottle it comes in with the prescription info on it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Fellas, Fellas,Now here is what I would do since I have been doing it for sometime. I will only speak of want I know when it comes to the U.S., with your legal percription from the U.S. take the original bottle with all the percription information on the bottle medicine that you obtain from Thailand into this bottle.
When going through through TSA, they look at my plastic bag with my so call percription bottle and neve have I had a problem. They're TSA no Doctors!When I come check points in Tawian, Japan, Thailand never have I ever been question. Asthma inhalers with the original U.S box I get replacement in Thailand and put them into the original percription box. My friends who are retired in Thailand do the same thing with their Viagra etc... and put them in old bottles.
Now in regards to hospital that speak English... in all the years never have I gone to a hospital in Pattaya, Bangkok/Pattaya have I ever from day one had a problem speaking only English myself been unable to gain access from registering or unable to explain or understand what I needed to convey to a Thai Doctor. From my experience from Dental to emergency been able to speak to a Doctor.Cost... you can see a Doctor for example at Bangkok/Pattaya total cost to get a percription would be 550 baht. That is ten minutes of their time.. tell them just like a American Doctor " you have having a hard time getting it up " At our age who is going to challenge that! right there your percription, a small wait then to the pill counter and pay your standard tap along with the medication. Tell the lady you want a copy of the percription!* Keep it! Keep the bottle for the future! now you can buy more on the street and still it into the original bottle. Now you have everything when you are stop! Percentage these guys can't even read a passport! They are basically stupid IMHO!
O.K. guys give it a try!* LBM[/QUOTE]
All the doctors who have examined me at PUBLIC hospitals in Thailand spoke VERY basic English, so that we even switched to Thai sometimes. Administrative staff no English AT ALL.
In private hospitals that's a completely different story and the nurses are prettier.
I have never ever got medicine from Germany or France with any kind of legal prescription paper on the package. Probably a US thing.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]All the doctors who have examined me at PUBLIC hospitals in Thailand spoke VERY basic English, so that we even switched to Thai sometimes. Administrative staff no English AT ALL.
In private hospitals that's a completely different story and the nurses are prettier...[/QUOTE]
I was speaking about public hospitals too, and according to my own experience, all the doctors that I've met there so far can speak a decent enough English (I agree with you that most of the administrative staff usually does not speak English or just a very little bit).
Of course, your mileage may vary, but IMHO, public hospitals are great at least for basic medical care... or if you want to have a rapid HIV test, for instance (it was only 300 baht the last time I've got one last year, and results were given within the hour).
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[QUOTE=Goyave]I was speaking about public hospitals too, and according to my own experience, all the doctors that I've met there so far can speak a decent enough English (I agree with you that most of the administrative staff usually does not speak English or just a very little bit).
Of course, your mileage may vary, but IMHO, public hospitals are great at least for basic medical care... or if you want to have a rapid HIV test, for instance (it was only 300 baht the last time I've got one last year, and results were given within the hour).[/QUOTE]
We've definitely had different practitioners then. By the way I agree with you (although I wouldn't send a tourist friend there) that for basic medical care, they're just about perfect. Most of the time I was in and out within a couple of hours and a couple hundred bahts lighter only. I may or may not have to pay anything in a public hospital in Europe but if I'm done in only 4 hours I consider myself very lucky.
I don't think I would do a HIV test in there though. Dunno why.
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Beware Superbabys
pattaya is much more violate and dangerous than i remember from over the years.
1. went to superbabys go-go which is famous for sp that cater to japanese and korean clients (which i am not). no language skills of sp (in english), but agreed to barfine with short time later (she told me 1.5) so we went to lucifer for a quick drink. no problems at lucifer (which usually also means not lady-boy), and returned to my hotel. at the hotel, she says "no boom boom for farang". i told her i paid the barfine and offered her the 1.5. she refused. we went back to superbabys and i explained nicely to mamasan and waitress what had happened. i asked for sp who would do the short time, and offered to pay the difference. no dice. spoke with manager who stated that i had to pay again bar fine and short time for different sp. spoke to japanese owner. he refused to talk with me (even after i bowed respectfully and spoke to him in japanese). i waited patiently, they wouldn't budge so i left.
spoke with security guard of my hotel, he indicated she was lady-boy (after i tipped him of course). on way back to walking street from hotel, saw japanese manager outside, and nicely indicated that i worry sending my japanese and korean clients there (which is true) because of my previous issue, and possible ladyboys. he retaliated by taking a swing at me, grazing my forehead, followed by the thai employees giving full frontal assault. barely got away unrep001hed (small bruise and watch missing).
2. went back hotel, cleaned up and changed. determined not to let this ruin my night, i went out again to lucifer. on my way, saw superhottie walking with another sp. she came over and offered me short time. we walked and talked and i explained previous situation that i didn't want ladyboy. she ensured me that if she was, i did not have to pay. i told her that my "brother" would be checking her id, and she didn't seem to worry. she made a quick stop for some lube (should of been first warning), and we went to hotel. security guard gave green light. my spidey senses were still tingling, so i did the checklist a) no adams apple b) soft hair c) no extra rib d) hit like a girl e) no square shoulders f) working parts. i still wasn't satisified and realized something was up when tried to enter. just finished myself off and send her packing (after reluctantly paying). i think she promised to give the security guard a cut, if he didn't sqwak.
3. earlier that night, i went for regular oil massage (considered possible hj). massage provider gave lousy massage, asked to shower me, and gave me hj. she asked for more money, which i declined saying just wanted massage. older western woman my mother's age was next curtain over! then provider starting kissing me, and asked me to kiss her breasts, and finger her. she took off her panties, put her weight on my arms pinning me and hopped on my member! i told her i wanted a condom. she started "boxing me" so i pulled out after a couple pumps and finished myself off. she wanted to lie together (to finish the hour) and asked me to be her boyfriend, meet her after her shift and go to my hotel. i just smiled, went downstairs paid masage fee, threw in 100bht tip. at 7-11 saw stunning sp, while asking her name, my massage provider suddenly appeared, causing drama. took her outside and offered her some money, she refused, and told me to meet her 1 hour. i said i would try and pretended to enter another closeby hotel.
i thought i was a seasoned expat in asia here, but i think my mongering days in pattaya is over . . .
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]All the doctors who have examined me at PUBLIC hospitals in Thailand spoke VERY basic English, so that we even switched to Thai sometimes. Administrative staff no English AT ALL.
In private hospitals that's a completely different story and the nurses are prettier.
I have never ever got medicine from Germany or France with any kind of legal prescription paper on the package. Probably a US thing.[/QUOTE]
No one is asking anyone here to stop going to the hospital whether it is a public or private if it works for you or for whatever reasons cost etc...?
The suggestion since there was no mentioned of public or private was if you need a piece of paper so you can carry a specify medicine or just to beat the system by getting around the cops searches here. Then it's up to each individual how they are going to proceed. If I tired of all the B.S. I'll paid the little extra and go to a private hospital just to get what I need for the future. This is very similar to P4P sex... Go Go Bars, Walking Stree Go Go's or Beach Road?
Do what you got to do to see someone that speaks better English to get the paper documents. Even in a public hospital without speaking they should know what you need. Pull down you zipper, pull out your thing, and place then limp thing on the counter, you will get lots of laughs but you just might get your documents. I'm pretty sure they will know your problem without you ever saying a word?
LBM
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Soi 6
I've found that the 18-21 yo girls are difficult to negotiate down from 700ST to 500ST on soi 6. Are any others having this same difficulty?
Not really a big deal, but I want to see where the market is at.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]You don't need the hand-written prescription from the doctor, you need the bottle it comes in with the prescription info on it.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure that would suffice? I guess to be safe, might want to just have those prescriptions on hand, just in case. I only say that cuz here in Vietnam, plenty of times when I showed the papers that supposedly were all that was needed, was told that actually I needed something else too, which of course I didn't have. Of course it's all just part of the shakedown script they all know by heart. ("This is not the original document, we need to see the original" -- "But the pharmacy keeps the original, if I had the original I couldnt' have the drugs" "That's your problem. We need the original." Chico Marx would have made a great Thai or Vietnamese cop.)
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've found that the 18-21 yo girls are difficult to negotiate down from 700ST to 500ST on soi 6. Are any others having this same difficulty?
Not really a big deal, but I want to see where the market is at.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I have never tried to negotiate. Since I'm always asked for 700Bht I assumed that it was a standard rate, like the 500/1000/150Bht in oilies. I guess everything is negotiable, but I would worry about demotivating the girl for the sake of 100Bht or so.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Are you sure that would suffice? I guess to be safe, might want to just have those prescriptions on hand, just in case. I only say that cuz here in Vietnam, plenty of times when I showed the papers that supposedly were all that was needed, was told that actually I needed something else too, which of course I didn't have. Of course it's all just part of the shakedown script they all know by heart. ("This is not the original document, we need to see the original" -- "But the pharmacy keeps the original, if I had the original I couldnt' have the drugs" "That's your problem. We need the original." Chico Marx would have made a great Thai or Vietnamese cop.)[/QUOTE]
I'm sure if they're just looking for a payday then you're out of luck no matter what you have.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]No one is asking anyone here to stop going to the hospital whether it is a public or private if it works for you or for whatever reasons cost etc...?
The suggestion since there was no mentioned of public or private was if you need a piece of paper so you can carry a specify medicine or just to beat the system by getting around the cops searches here. Then it's up to each individual how they are going to proceed. If I tired of all the B.S. I'll paid the little extra and go to a private hospital just to get what I need for the future. This is very similar to P4P sex... Go Go Bars, Walking Stree Go Go's or Beach Road?
Do what you got to do to see someone that speaks better English to get the paper documents. Even in a public hospital without speaking they should know what you need. Pull down you zipper, pull out your thing, and place then limp thing on the counter, you will get lots of laughs but you just might get your documents. I'm pretty sure they will know your problem without you ever saying a word?
LBM[/QUOTE]
Errm, you haven't read correctly... Originally I was just answering a post recommending people to go to a PUBLIC hospital and I was saying that I wouldn't recommend that to tourists. Period.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've found that the 18-21 yo girls are difficult to negotiate down from 700ST to 500ST on soi 6. Are any others having this same difficulty?
Not really a big deal, but I want to see where the market is at.[/QUOTE]
Just wait a bit. From April 20th to November 1st, not very difficult anymore :)
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[quote=jack rabbit]pattaya is much more violate and dangerous than i remember from over the years.
1. went to superbabys go-go which is famous for sp that cater to japanese and korean clients (which i am not). no language skills of sp (in english), but agreed to barfine with short time later (she told me 1.5) so we went to lucifer for a quick drink. no problems at lucifer (which usually also means not lady-boy), and returned to my hotel. at the hotel, she says "no boom boom for farang". i told her i paid the barfine and offered her the 1.5. she refused. we went back to superbabys and i explained nicely to mamasan and waitress what had happened. i asked for sp who would do the short time, and offered to pay the difference. no dice. spoke with manager who stated that i had to pay again bar fine and short time for different sp. spoke to japanese owner. he refused to talk with me (even after i bowed respectfully and spoke to him in japanese). i waited patiently, they wouldn't budge so i left.
spoke with security guard of my hotel, he indicated she was lady-boy (after i tipped him of course). on way back to walking street from hotel, saw japanese manager outside, and nicely indicated that i worry sending my japanese and korean clients there (which is true) because of my previous issue, and possible ladyboys. he retaliated by taking a swing at me, grazing my forehead, followed by the thai employees giving full frontal assault. barely got away unrep001hed (small bruise and watch missing).
2. went back hotel, cleaned up and changed. determined not to let this ruin my night, i went out again to lucifer. on my way, saw superhottie walking with another sp. she came over and offered me short time. we walked and talked and i explained previous situation that i didn't want ladyboy. she ensured me that if she was, i did not have to pay. i told her that my "brother" would be checking her id, and she didn't seem to worry. she made a quick stop for some lube (should of been first warning), and we went to hotel. security guard gave green light. my spidey senses were still tingling, so i did the checklist a) no adams apple b) soft hair c) no extra rib d) hit like a girl e) no square shoulders f) working parts. i still wasn't satisified and realized something was up when tried to enter. just finished myself off and send her packing (after reluctantly paying). i think she promised to give the security guard a cut, if he didn't sqwak.
3. earlier that night, i went for regular oil massage (considered possible hj). massage provider gave lousy massage, asked to shower me, and gave me hj. she asked for more money, which i declined saying just wanted massage. older western woman my mother's age was next curtain over! then provider starting kissing me, and asked me to kiss her breasts, and finger her. she took off her panties, put her weight on my arms pinning me and hopped on my member! i told her i wanted a condom. she started "boxing me" so i pulled out after a couple pumps and finished myself off. she wanted to lie together (to finish the hour) and asked me to be her boyfriend, meet her after her shift and go to my hotel. i just smiled, went downstairs paid masage fee, threw in 100bht tip. at 7-11 saw stunning sp, while asking her name, my massage provider suddenly appeared, causing drama. took her outside and offered her some money, she refused, and told me to meet her 1 hour. i said i would try and pretended to enter another closeby hotel.
i thought i was a seasoned expat in asia here, but i think my mongering days in pattaya is over . . .[/quote]
don't get it...
1. ok, sounds strange but possible. can't imagine superbaby with katoeys though but haven't been there for years.
2. you see someone completely naked, even have the beginning of sexual intercourse with that someone and can't tell if she's a girl or a katoey?!?!? and this "girl" knows all the security guards in pattaya who in turn know that they get a cut of her fee?
3. so weird that i hardly believe it. if the story is true, you must have omitted quite a few events/details.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]Can't imagine SuperBaby with katoeys ......
So weird that I hardly believe it......... [/QUOTE]
Agree, the story sounds a lot like fiction!
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Interesting. I have never tried to negotiate. Since I'm always asked for 700Bht I assumed that it was a standard rate, like the 500/1000/150Bht in oilies. I guess everything is negotiable, but I would worry about demotivating the girl for the sake of 100Bht or so.[/QUOTE]
A few months ago, standard price on soi 6 was still 500 ST+300 room. Can't remember when girls started asking for 700 but it's not so long ago, maybe a year...
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]standard price on soi 6 was still 500 ST+300 room. [/QUOTE]
Do you include attractive 18-21, non-mothers in that "standard" price? I'm just wondering if there is a higher tier pricing system for the better meat these days.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]Can't remember when girls started asking for 700 but it's not so long ago, maybe a year...[/QUOTE]I first came across it maybe a year and a half ago. At first it was just the hottest girls but soon it began to expand to others. And fair enough. It'd been B500 for a long while, and prices on everything else have risen meanwhile. Still a bargain.
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[QUOTE=Mart Cham]Errm, you haven't read correctly... Originally I was just answering a post recommending people to go to a PUBLIC hospital and I was saying that I wouldn't recommend that to tourists. Period.[/QUOTE]
MC,
Then certainly you deserve my apologises! For reading wrong!
LBM
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Agree, the story sounds a lot like fiction![/QUOTE]
I further questioned the security guard, and perhaps he misunderstood my question. Perhaps that is why the Japanese manager flipped out when I mentioned ladyboy. Strangely, in the light she had broad shoulders and what looked like an Adams Apple. Regardless, she agreed to the short time, and then reneged. Still wary of that place due to the physical assault.
As for other story, I think the SP was post-op. Her pussy would not close after withdrawal. Just didn't feel right, so I gave up, and sent "her" packing.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]I further questioned the security guard, and perhaps he misunderstood my question. Perhaps that is why the Japanese manager flipped out when I mentioned ladyboy. Strangely, in the light she had broad shoulders and what looked like an Adams Apple. Regardless, she agreed to the short time, and then reneged. Still wary of that place due to the physical assault.
As for other story, I think the SP was post-op. Her pussy would not close after withdrawal. Just didn't feel right, so I gave up, and sent "her" packing.[/QUOTE]
Still not convinced, sorry.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]MC,
Then certainly you deserve my apologises! For reading wrong!
LBM[/QUOTE]
No problem, happens;)
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Do you include attractive 18-21, non-mothers in that "standard" price? I'm just wondering if there is a higher tier pricing system for the better meat these days.[/QUOTE]
Betong has already answered your question but yes, I include attractive 18-21 girls. Actually I don't usually ask unattractive, old mothers how much they charge. To be honest, there are not so many attractive, 18-30 y.o. girls (an attractive girl who is 30ish is still attractive to me) on soi 6 and I do not indulge each time I stroll down the soi.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]I further questioned the security guard, and perhaps he misunderstood my question. Perhaps that is why the Japanese manager flipped out when I mentioned ladyboy. Strangely, in the light she had broad shoulders and what looked like an Adams Apple. Regardless, she agreed to the short time, and then reneged. Still wary of that place due to the physical assault.
As for other story, I think the SP was post-op. Her pussy would not close after withdrawal. Just didn't feel right, so I gave up, and sent "her" packing.[/QUOTE]
Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.
Try this:
[url=http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php ]Take the test[/url]
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.
Or try this:
[url=http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php ]Take the test[/url][/QUOTE]
Yep, agree with Wendella, you're being paranoid (if you're not just being a troll). You should relax a little bit. And FYI Jack Rabbit, the best way to find out if a girl is a katoey is to assess attitude, behaviour. I find the only physical traits that really tell something, and that's in 90% of the cases only, are the voice and the size of feet/hands. There still are girls with big hands/feet and katoeys without but it's less common than girls with broad shoulders and katoeys without Adams apple.
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Flop Open
[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]
As for other story, I think the SP was post-op. Her pussy would not close after withdrawal. Just didn't feel right, so I gave up, and sent "her" packing.
[/QUOTE]
An old black man in the American South told me years ago that when he first got married, he delighted in holding his wife's pussy lips open and watching them slam shut. Now her holds them shut and watches them pop open.
Slim
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9 out of 10
[QUOTE=Wendella]
Try this:
[url=http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php ]Take the test[/url]
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Got 9 out of 10 right. Took the test just to see if the cuties in #8 and #10 were girls. Both were. Other wise I could be in real trouble one of theses days.
Slim
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10 out of 10
[QUOTE=Nvslim]Got 9 out of 10 right. Took the test just to see if the cuties in #8 and #10 were girls. Both were. Other wise I could be in real trouble one of theses days.
Slim[/QUOTE]Got 10 out of 10. Amazing, especially if you know that I never been into places like Patong and Pattaya. Beginner's luck?
Mike
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]Got 9 out of 10 right. Took the test just to see if the cuties in #8 and #10 were girls. Both were. Other wise I could be in real trouble one of theses days.Slim[/QUOTE]I took the test. I scored 7 out of 10 correct, but I am not worried. I spotted all the Katoey. I messed up falsely identifying a couple ladies as men. False positive. It is better to error on the side of caution.
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]Got 9 out of 10 right.
Slim[/QUOTE]
Shhhh! Don't tell them! ;-)
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.
Try this:
[url=http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php ]Take the test[/url][/QUOTE]
Happily, 10 out of 10.
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[quote=jack rabbit]1. went to superbabys go-go which is famous for sp that cater to japanese and korean clients (which i am not). no language skills of sp (in english), but agreed to barfine with short time later (she told me 1.5) so we went to lucifer for a quick drink.
2. went back hotel, cleaned up and changed. determined not to let this ruin my night, i went out again to lucifer. on my way, saw superhottie walking with another sp. she came over and offered me short time.[/quote]i'm like the other mongers. i'm not getting it. why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht? that is like going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, finding a girl there, and taking her over to devil's den. just doesn't make sense. then the second time you were heading back to lucifer and got sidetracked. why didn't you just cut out the middle man and bar fines and just get a girl from lucifer for a flat 1000 baht since you were frequenting the place anyway?
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[QUOTE=Aussie Stu]Following on with the perils of the Beach Road and Walking Street theme.
1. Walking along the Beach Road at around 3. 00 in the morning. A group of Girls and Lady Boys approached. They joked, and at the same time, appeared to frisk me. As it was the end of the evening and, I had little money left, I ignored this and went back to my hotel. Next morning, looking in the mirror, I realized my gold chain had gone.
2. Around 1. 00 in the morning walking in the Walking Street. A Lady Boy persuaded me to go with her down a small side street and into a vacant construction site with the promise of a BJ. Inside the construction site I was forced to surrender the entire contents of my wallet.[/QUOTE]This guy is pulling our dicks. Beach Road/Walking Street is not Soi 6. Meaning: On Beach Road and Walking Street the SWs are passive. They don't just approach you like Aussie Stu is saying. They sit back and wait for you to come up to them. Now Soi 6 is a bit different. The bar girls are agressive. They will jump up, run circles around you, hug you, walk down the street with you and try to get you to come fuck their ass.
And what are you doing walking around Pattaya with a wallet anyway? (I won't even mention the gold chain.) Now, I've never robbed anyone, but if I was to do it I would not waste time on making them give me the contents of their wallet. I would just take the whole damn thing and worry about the contents later.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I'm like the other mongers. I'm not getting it. Why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to Lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht?[/QUOTE]
Some guys are unable to score at places like Lucifer. Don't ask me why, I don't know, age and looks I suppose or they just don't feel so much at ease in 'normal' clubs...
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Then the second time you were heading back to Lucifer and got sidetracked. Why didn't you just cut out the middle man and bar fines and just get a girl from Lucifer since you were frequenting the place anyway?[/QUOTE]
I think Mr Rabbit was talking about his hotel's security guard, not the ones at Lucifer.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]This guy is pulling our dicks...[/QUOTE]
Maybe, but...
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Beach Road/Walking Street is not Soi 6. Meaning: On Beach Road and Walking Street the SWs are passive. They don't just approach you like Aussie Stu is saying.[/QUOTE]
... this part of his story is plausible. He spoke about ladyboys, and although it's true that usually the real girls are most of the time passive on Beach Road and Walking Street, I've often noticed on Beach Road a group of ladyboys acting just like Aussie Stu wrote in his report.
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[quote=mr enternational]i'm like the other mongers. i'm not getting it. why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht? that is like going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, finding a girl there, and taking her over to devil's den. just doesn't make sense. then the second time you were heading back to lucifer and got sidetracked. why didn't you just cut out the middle man and bar fines and just get a girl from lucifer for a flat 1000 baht since you were frequenting the place anyway?[/quote]
simple. it was before 12pm (around 10pm), lucifer was dead and other go-gos had no talent (e.g. club boesche, toyz, xo, etc.)
wanted a quick pop before picking up the freelancers in lucifer, especially with the lighter skin thais that usually work at superbaby.
i took her to lucifer to make her more comfortable with me, since i could tell she doesn't go with many farangs (limited english). it also gave me a chance to scope out what was coming in, so i could come back after when i was finished with her. which was a good thing that i did, because it set up my final night with the best gfe ever in the los from a sp who was from laos (who had seen me dancing in lucifer and liked my style :)
for the record, i have spoken with various expats who all informed me that superbabys never included the short time fee with the bar fine previously (as for as long as i can remember too). i know of very few go-go's that actually have this policy. always pay the girl directly for services. hence, why i made the previous posts to warn others.
moreover, i have noticed both in bangkok and pattaya that it is more challenging to determine the katooeys (which is why i usually only go for petite women). however, even in the previous account, the sp passed all the tests (yes including small hands and feet, and less tall). btw, i scored perfect 10 out of 10 on the test. i always err in the side of caution, which probably explains why i was so baffled that i got played.
time to put this issue to rest, i regret that i didn't play things differently (like speaking to the mamasan on the phone while in my hotel room, and offer to pay the sp directly), however, she made it pretty clear in the room, "no farangs boom boom". i just hate wasting money and time (only had 2 days to play). i do not want to be labelled as those "nice guys" who barfine the girl to "hang out" with no boom boom. met quite a few of those . . .
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]
For the record, I have spoken with various expats who all informed me that Superbabys never included the Short time Fee with the Bar fine previously (as for as long as I can remember too). I know of very few Go-go's that actually have this policy[/QUOTE]
WTF?!?!? Superbaby is wellknown for this policy and it's been going on for years. I once wanted to barfine a girl there, that was in 2007, and when they informed me that I had to pay bar + fee on the spot, I informed them that they would have to do without my business.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]And what are you doing walking around Pattaya with a wallet anyway? (I won't even mention the gold chain.) Now, I've never robbed anyone, but if I was to do it I would not waste time on making them give me the contents of their wallet. I would just take the whole damn thing and worry about the contents later.[/QUOTE]
In the last year, I haven't had any problems walking around with a wallet in SE Asia. As long as you're street smart and you're not going into dark alley's with a ladyboy maybe you'll be okay. I don't carry a credit card and I carry a copy of my passport. And I only carry enough cash that I will spend when I'm out.
Chains draw attention for sure. I used to have a $5 stainless steel chain with something attached. Girls would be interested in it all the time, touching it, asking what it is, etc. At first I thought it was an ice breaker, but later I got rid of it.
I wear a watch sometimes because it prevents me from taking out my phone so often.
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[quote=mr enternational]i'm like the other mongers. i'm not getting it. why would you take a girl from an agogo where beers are 80 baht, to lucifer of all places to drink, where beers are 180 baht? that is like going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, finding a girl there, and taking her over to devil's den. just doesn't make sense. [/quote]
i don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.[/QUOTE]
Maybe some guys enjoy a wider variety of activities than you do. That should be pretty easy to understand, that not everybody likes exactly what you like.
Referring to Mr Enternational's comment, seems like cost is his top priority. For some here I'm pretty sure it's not.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.[/QUOTE]
Not all of the higher end SP will agree for boom boom (unless perhaps you want to pay substantial bank). Especially locals on holiday, wanting to make some extra bank, they can choose who they want to service (even go-go's often give the SP a choice). Sometimes you gotta put in a little time, buy a couple drinks with her friends, etc.
All women judge a man by who they are with. If any woman (SP) or otherwise sees you with a superhottie, she will think you got money, looks, and perhaps charm/humour. Of course, you may not be their target THAT DAY, but you could be the following day. And trust me, they remember. I guarantee my Laosian hottie, would not have agreed to meet up, if I didn't play this game. I saw guys chase her down numerous times, and she rejected them flat out. In the end, she never asked me for a dime (obviously has a few sponsors), however of course I gave her some "shopping money", which was actually less than if I had paid for services rendered.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]All women judge a man by who they are with. If any woman (SP) or otherwise sees you with a superhottie, she will think you got money, looks, and perhaps charm/humour. Of course, you may not be their target THAT DAY, but you could be the following day. And trust me, they remember. I guarantee my Laosian hottie, would not have agreed to meet up, if I didn't play this game. I saw guys chase her down numerous times, and she rejected them flat out. In the end, she never asked me for a dime (obviously has a few sponsors), however of course I gave her some "shopping money", which was actually less than if I had paid for services rendered.[/QUOTE]
Is it possible that you have low self-esteem? It's true in Asia, girls are more into prestige and money than in Europe. But, to buy a prostitute to get seen with her, in order to impress other prostitutes is a funny thought.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]I don't understand that either, but I think a lot of guys want to be seen with there girls ha ha, they are prostitutes, I been saying it long enough, to many bottom feeders, hand clutchers, people will never learn. Get them to the room and do the business, simple as.[/QUOTE]
I guess everybody is different and has different objectives.
I must admit that I feel a bit sorry for some of those fellas when I see them treating the same prostitute, that I had before him, as if she is someone special. Only if he knew the things that I and many others did with her before.
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Pretty Wide Assumption
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps , that every guy you see with a girl , maybe the girl is not in the game or a prostitute??
I have taken my massage girl to the movies, and go cart racing.
The mindset you have and others is pretty limited if all you can come up with is "take her to the room and fuck" mentality of every couple you see together.
Now granted you did say "sex workers", but again I must stress that every thai girl with a farang is not a sex worker.
Nowrath
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[QUOTE=Nowrath]Perhaps , that every guy you see with a girl , maybe the girl is not in the game or a prostitute??
I have taken my massage girl to the movies, and go cart racing.[/QUOTE]Speaking of which....I met a girl a couple of years ago in the street on Pattaya Klang. A couple of days later I saw her working in the massage spot that I was frequenting at the time. I have pictures of her from both encounters. Over the past two years I have been thinking to myself why didn't I ever ask her out. Actually I know why. It is because at that time I had a TG in Pattaya who worked right inside of the mall that I met this chick in front of.
Last month I was walking back from the dive shop and saw the same girl working at a different massage spot. I told her that I remembered her and had the pictures on my computer to prove it. She said that she remembered me as well from her last job. I told her that I would be back later. I had been diving all day and needed to go to the hotel to freshen up and grab my scooter.
When I returned to the massage shop a couple of hours later the lady who owned the place said that if I wanted to go out with the girl I would have to pay her (the owner, whose farang boyfriend happened to be in town) for the girl to leave work. I'm like what the fuck. When did legitimate massage places start having bar fines? I told her that I would just wait until a time she is not working to go out with her. The lady still insisted. I finally just left because I didn't want to make trouble for this girl. I've never paid a bar fine at a bar. I damn sure am not about to pay one at a massage parlor. What is the deal with this? Did the owner just take me to be a stupid farang or something?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] I've never paid a bar fine at a bar. I damn sure am not about to pay one at a massage parlor. What is the deal with this? Did the owner just take me to be a stupid farang or something?[/QUOTE]
First time I heard this concept it blew me away too but I've learn that it's quite the norm in many shops. When a MP girl is absent from work she has to pay a fee to the owner unless she is sick or on a medical appointment. Some MPs girls pay (or their sponsor pay) a hefty fee to be absent from work for a week or more when their sponsors come to town. The idea is to compensate the shop for revenue (loss) which she would have (potentially) generated if she was not taken out of the shop.
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[QUOTE=Nowrath]
The mindset you have and others is pretty limited if all you can come up with is "take her to the room and fuck" mentality of every couple you see together.
Now granted you did say "sex workers", but again I must stress that every thai girl with a farang is not a sex worker.
Nowrath[/QUOTE]
Yes I did say "sex worker", and when you've been here long enough it's easy to tell who is/was a pro and who is not.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Yes I did say "sex worker", and when you've been here long enough it's easy to tell who is/was a pro and who is not.[/QUOTE]
Born and raised there were you?
Labeling is pretty easy ,when you already have your mind made up.
Granted yes,if you have been too all the gogo's and bar's and know every lady by sight, it would be easy .
But that is neither here nor there.
The statement reminds me of the travel channel when a foreigner has spent years researching a tribe of people , and is now a expert on that culture , when there is a 90 year old native man sitting there right out of camera range grinning.
We never know as much as we think , even about the country we were born in
But your point was well taken
Nowrath
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[QUOTE=Nowrath]Born and raised there were you?
Labeling is pretty easy ,when you already have your mind made up.
Granted yes,if you have been too all the gogo's and bar's and know every lady by sight, it would be easy .
But that is neither here nor there.
The statement reminds me of the travel channel when a foreigner has spent years researching a tribe of people , and is now a expert on that culture , when there is a 90 year old native man sitting there right out of camera range grinning.
We never know as much as we think , even about the country we were born in
But your point was well taken
Nowrath[/QUOTE]
Nowrath, if I was going to place a bet on which of you or Amjeck would be able to pick out who's working and who's not more accurately, my money's on Amjeck. You do realize there's ways to spot them, right ? You wouldn't need to know each one personally to have a good idea if she's a working girl or not. So your final statement about not knowing as much as we think might apply more to yourself than to Amjeck in this case at least (and possibly to your Discovery channel example too). But to go out there and have your default position for everyone you see be that you have no idea which they are, that's just dumb. Maybe that's not what you meant, and if so, sorry. No offense meant. But if someone is there for years partaking of the scene, and sees them day in day out, yes of course there's ways to be able to tell. Different subject, but case in point: the Test I posted a ways down here. A new guy I know got 7 of 10. Local expats got 9 or 10 out of 10. You shouldn't bet against experience. Usually you'll lose that battle.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I don't get why guys take their sex workers to anyplace other than a room to fuck.[/QUOTE]
Some of us treat them as people, not sperm repositories. It typically provides us with a better experience, and pleasant company. As surprising as I find it, I have a few girls chasing me. I asked one what it is that she likes about me. Why me? She says because I don't look down on her and treat her nice.
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[QUOTE=DG69]Is it possible that you have low self-esteem? It's true in Asia, girls are more into prestige and money than in Europe. But, to buy a prostitute to get seen with her, in order to impress other prostitutes is a funny thought.[/QUOTE]
Trust me, low self esteem is something I don't have. However, when I have limited time, I want to make sure I get the best quality SP available, and best bang for my buck. Not all SP's will agree to go with you. The higher end ones tend to be more selective (especially the younger ones). If you say otherwise, then I question your Expat status. . .
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Trust me, low self esteem is something I don't have. However, when I have limited time, I want to make sure I get the best quality SP available, and best bang for my buck. Not all SP's will agree to go with you. The higher end ones tend to be more selective (especially the younger ones). If you say otherwise, then I question your Expat status. . .[/QUOTE]
I think you underestimate the ability of these girls to sense people. They perfectly know who's smart or not, wether you are with a pretty girl or not. If you are a creep and come with a pretty girl, it'll not change anything.
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[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Trust me, low self esteem is something I don't have. However, when I have limited time, I want to make sure I get the best quality SP available, and best bang for my buck. Not all SP's will agree to go with you. The higher end ones tend to be more selective (especially the younger ones). If you say otherwise, then I question your Expat status. . .[/QUOTE]
Who say I am an expad? I were a expad in Saudi-Arabia, Asserbaidschan, Spain, Italy and UK, but never in Thailand. Though I were many times in Thailand on holidays. Often 3 weeks and more. Last time I spend 2 months on holiday in Thailand. So, I know a little bit about freelancer and bargirls.
It's true some of the younger pretty freelancer, with sponsors in the background, will mostly go with younger guys.
I don't speak from the beachroad girls, but from the higher tier Club girls. It's true if you are known as a big spender and expensive girls are around you, you might impress them. Though is this result worth all those effort? If they are too proud to consider you as a client, than you will most likely not get a good service.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Nowrath, if I was going to place a bet on which of you or Amjeck would be able to pick out who's working and who's not more accurately, my money's on Amjeck. You do realize there's ways to spot them, right ? You wouldn't need to know each one personally to have a good idea if she's a working girl or not. So your final statement about not knowing as much as we think might apply more to yourself than to Amjeck in this case at least (and possibly to your Discovery channel example too). But to go out there and have your default position for everyone you see be that you have no idea which they are, that's just dumb. Maybe that's not what you meant, and if so, sorry. No offense meant. But if someone is there for years partaking of the scene, and sees them day in day out, yes of course there's ways to be able to tell. Different subject, but case in point: the Test I posted a ways down here. A new guy I know got 7 of 10. Local expats got 9 or 10 out of 10. You shouldn't bet against experience. Usually you'll lose that battle.[/QUOTE]
I would bet that you should save your money and continue spotting them the way you and Amjeck do, ok.
It wasn't a battle I was in or worth fighting for.
Being a professional "experienced" sex worker spotter ,hmm I'll keep my day job.
No apology needed because I'm not naive or dense, Been to Thailand probably more then 13 times, just find it humerous of all the wealth of knowledge on spotting the known worker.
would love to be able to post pictures of the 12-15 year old girls going to school and the 20 year old sex workers in my town , and let you guys pick who is who .
The lady boy test was easy 10 out of 10 , I know you won't believe but it is very simple in person and photo's , the jawline always gives them away .
No matter how petite, a male jawline differs from a female
So happy spotting , I'll just steer clear and tell my massage gals to cover their cleavage
Nowrath
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[QUOTE=Pita123]Some of us treat them as people, not sperm repositories. It typically provides us with a better experience, and pleasant company. As surprising as I find it, I have a few girls chasing me. I asked one what it is that she likes about me. Why me? She says because I don't look down on her and treat her nice.[/QUOTE]
No surprise Pita , I don't do the gogo or bargirls anymore, but the massage gals ask the same thing .
Why spend time with me?
Because your fun and enjoyable company.
I have a friend that is retired there now , 4 years so when I come , he invites the sister or friend of who he is living with to visit .
We always hit it off, sometimes there is sex, sometimes not.
Like the massage gals doesn't matter.
Just nice people .
Nowrath
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Pattaya Trip Part 1
by an amazing series of circumstances i was able to get to thailand for just over a week without mrs k2k. i booked a taxi service to take me straight to pattaya (1, 000 baht) and checked in to the pasadena lodge. i was happily surprised when i found out that it is not possible to leave the hotel without passing either [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] or devils den.
quantity doesn't work for me any more so i decided to devote the trip to variety, going after as many different categories of sex worker as possible. i did not pursue this as rigourously as i could have, but i still managed to enjoy myself.
i have come to the conclusion that you ony need two things to get laid in this town:
1. cash
2. a pulse
fortunately, i have both, so i was not disappointed.
day 1
feeling quite tired after a 12 hour flight i decided that a massage might relieve the aching muscles. i found a parlour after about a 5 minute walk from the hotel. actually, this is not true. several parlours found me, almost as soon as i left the hotel. if there are health-giving benefits to having a massage then you might think that residents of pattaya would be among the healthiest on the planet.
not wishing to fall into the first parlour i encountered i chose to do a little reconnaissance of the neighbourhood to try and determine which would offer me the best service. after seeing about a dozen, i concluded that there was nothing obvious that i could use to differentiate between the offerings. the one i eventually chose (sorry, i can't remember the name or location) only stood out because it seemed to be the cheapest. 199 baht for one hour oil service, while the prevailing rate seems to be 250-300. i didn't choose it because of the price, but because i was attracted by one of the ladies outside. just my luck, she was not working there, just visiting her friend, who was significantly less visually appealing. i guess i should have walked at this point, but by this stage i was well and truly ready for my massage and decided to stay.
i started with a very welcome shower. i needed this, even though i'd had one just before i left the hotel. then it was on to the mattress on the floor for the massage. i found it a little disappointing, because it was a reasonable massage but with no attention to the genital area. just as i was seriously wondering whether the lady was into special services or not, she grabbed me quite firmly and asked what would i like. we agreed 1,000 baht for a blow job and also to cover the 199 baht for the massage, or so i thought. she did a decent bbbj followed by cim and i was a happy man. then she finished up the time with a bit more massage and i paid her the agreed amount. on the way out the cashier stops me and asks for the 200 for the massage. i point to the masseuse to indicate that she has it, but all she says is "you pay, you pay". this i did, grudgingly, and then left feeling decidedly ripped off. leaves a rather nasty taste in the mouth, as the masseuse might have said (sorry, couldn't resist it),
later on, returning to the hotel, i was tempted by the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] ladies in their school uniforms. i picked one quite attractive one from outside and in we went. "you want drink? " she asked, but was more than happy to go straight upstairs when i said no. i was impressed by the room, although i was disappointed by the lack of mirrors on the ceiling. all the walls have them, so why not above, too? the lady did a reasonable bbbj but no cim so i just paid 700 baht and left.
day 2
after a day on the beach i decided to check out what beach road had to offer about 5pm. there was no shortage of talent, but few stunners. i eventually got talking to rose, a 23 year old spinner, dressed in knee high boots, tight shorts and top. she has a rose tattoo on her upper arm, in case there is any doubt about her name she just points to it. she also wears her hair quite short. above the shoulders. which seems very unusual for a thai girl, despite the heat. the offer was 500 for st or 1200 for lt, which meant staying until 2am, according to her. i opted for st and she took me to her preferred hotel, just off beach road. the room was very basic, but at 100 baht i couldn't complain. after we had showered together rose asked me if i had a condom, which i didn't. neither, apparently, did she, so i settled for a mechanical bbbj. no cim offered. as soon as she cleaned me up she started getting dressed, so short time to her meant one pop.
later that night i was returning to pasadena lodge and again felt the magnetic pull of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. picked a different girl and went upstairs with her. the bj started well, but then she started applying too much hand action. i batted her hand away and she resumed her work. after a bit, the hand action recurred and i had to bat it away again. this happened three times and i was beginning to get irked. so the fourth time i stopped her completely, looked her in the eye and said "do it how i like and i'll pay you 1, 000 baht". well, money talks and she listened. the hand disappeared. she slowed down. "you like? " she asked several times to check she was doing it right, which she was. she almost rimmed me, which was pretty good considering that i was sitting on the couch. she gave a five star performance and took my load in her mouth. 1, 000 baht well spent, in my view.
k2k
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Sounds to me like you're paranoid about this issue and seeing it where it isn't.
Try this:
[url=http://www.bangkokpicture.com/nightlife/spotthekatoeys.php ]Take the test[/url][/QUOTE]8 out of 10 , nice training to sharpen your skills
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Soi 6 Today - Squirter
Today my friend (still have one) dragged me down to Soi 6. He likes it there. I don't.
We found a bar. He went upstairs pretty sharpish. I stayed downstairs and had a good chat with the girl trying to get me to go upstairs. She went through the normal list of things that she would do for me and, the things I could do to her. She finished up by saying that if I made her come I would not have to pay her. I asked her how I would know that she had come. She told me I would see as she would have water.
I didn't take her upstairs to check. Like so many of the girls these days she was just a bit to fat for me.
Many years ago I did experience a squirter (I am not even sure if this is the correct word for it) and, It didn't really do anything for me. I just wondered how many other members had come across this before and, if anybody really enjoys it, I can pass on more details about the girl and the bar.
If this has already been discussed I am very sorry. I am new to this as everybody knows.
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Question for you experts
If it were your first trip to Thailand and you had just 5 days to take in the beauty of the city, beaches, relaxed environment and beautiful women would you recommend a person go to Pattaya or Phuket? Any additional information is greatly appreciated.
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Pattaya or Phuket?
[QUOTE=Chacal]If it were your first trip to Thailand and you had just 5 days to take in the beauty of the city, beaches, relaxed environment and beautiful women would you recommend a person go to Pattaya or Phuket? Any additional information is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Pattaya is not beautiful and its beach is polluted. Only a few crazy Russians go swimming there. But it has more than 10,000 women who will want to have sex with you, sexy man.
Phuket is an overdeveloped beach resort (IMO it was much nicer 30 years ago), but the beaches are still pretty and clean. It has only a fraction of the bars and women Pattaya has, but you will definitely hook up with girls there.
In other words, the decision is up to you. Do you want to swim and relax on some nice beaches and then later go to town visit some bars and get laid? Or, do you want to concentrate on girls and drinking and nothing else?
Beaches and girls or girls and more girls. That is the choice.
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What have you really come for???
[QUOTE=Chacal]If it were your first trip to Thailand and you had just 5 days to take in the beauty of the city, beaches, relaxed environment and beautiful women would you recommend a person go to Pattaya or Phuket? Any additional information is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
If you have been anywhere vaguely decent you are not going to be very impressed by the Pattaya beaches of the "beauty of the city". Phuket is an overpriced European package holiday spot.
Come to Pattaya for the overabundance of affordable girls, great accommodation and food options and you wont be disappointed
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[QUOTE=Chacal]If it were your first trip to Thailand and you had just 5 days to take in the beauty of the city, beaches, relaxed environment and beautiful women would you recommend a person go to Pattaya or Phuket? Any additional information is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
For all that, go to Hua Hin
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[QUOTE=Desperate Deano]Today my friend (still have one) dragged me down to Soi 6. He likes it there. I don't.
We found a bar. He went upstairs pretty sharpish. I stayed downstairs and had a good chat with the girl trying to get me to go upstairs. She went through the normal list of things that she would do for me and, the things I could do to her. She finished up by saying that if I made her come I would not have to pay her. I asked her how I would know that she had come. She told me I would see as she would have water.
I didn't take her upstairs to check. Like so many of the girls these days she was just a bit to fat for me.
Many years ago I did experience a squirter (I am not even sure if this is the correct word for it) and, It didn't really do anything for me. I just wondered how many other members had come across this before and, if anybody really enjoys it, I can pass on more details about the girl and the bar.
If this has already been discussed I am very sorry. I am new to this as everybody knows.[/QUOTE]
Why don't you list which bar. There's a squirter at Sexy Bar (Sexy In the City) who floods the bed regularly with me. But she speaks almost NO english so doubt it's the one you are talking about unless you speak Thai.
I actually know three girls on soi 6 who have squirted while I've been eating them. Also know some that like to slap and be slapped, some that love anal, some that love three somes etc... Just gotta know what to look for, when to look for them, and how to look for them. Most these girls you won't find sitting out front too often.
For me eating them to get a face full of juice is interesting but I can take it or leave it.
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Just arrived in Pattaya last night!
Aloha All!
This is my first trip to Pattaya. I arrived last night and was truly amazed at what goes on in Walking Street. There were many people offering live sex shows with a cover charge that started at 500 baht but quickly went down to as little as 200 baht.
I did read the forum and saw that Babydolls is the place to go. I have 2 questions: 1) Is Babydolls still the place to go to watch a live sex show or is there a better place? 2) What cover charge should I pay, if any at all.
I'm staying at the Discovery Bay hotel. If anyone wants to meet up tonight for a drink to scope out the action tonight, please PM!
Thanks in advance for your help!
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[quote=tansak ktv]...i actually know three girls on soi 6 who have squirted while i've been eating them... for me eating them to get a face full of juice is interesting but i can take it or leave it.[/quote]
now, here's a question for all you scientists and dr. types out there ... just exactly what is this female squirt juice, anyway, and where does it squirt from? is it merely an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice? is it some kind of female semen? is it [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]? (i think it's [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url])
tansak, old man, are you letting those girls [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on you? :d
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Why don't you list which bar. There's a squirter at Sexy Bar (Sexy In the City) who floods the bed regularly with me. But she speaks almost NO english so doubt it's the one you are talking about unless you speak Thai.
I actually know three girls on soi 6 who have squirted while I've been eating them. Also know some that like to slap and be slapped, some that love anal, some that love three somes etc... Just gotta know what to look for, when to look for them, and how to look for them. Most these girls you won't find sitting out front too often.
For me eating them to get a face full of juice is interesting but I can take it or leave it.[/QUOTE]Actually - we only spoke Thai.
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[quote=daddy07]tansak, old man, are you letting those girls [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on you? :d[/quote]
it's actually been a debated topic over the years. it is not purely [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] but many reports state it is similar to, but not exactly the same. since it is coming from the urethra area it has to have or should have similar properties.
it's unique to say the least, and the one girl there can squirt multiple times it is amusing to see her spasm. what i've had shot on me by her surely is not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], and i've had a few rep002s in my time so i'd say i'm qualified to distinguish the difference :d ...
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[quote=daddy07]now, here's a question for all you scientists and dr. types out there ... just exactly what is this female squirt juice, anyway, and where does it squirt from? is it merely an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice? is it some kind of female semen? is it [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]? (i think it's [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url])...[/quote]
i'm not a physician and i can't answer to all of your questions, but according to my own experience with a few "squirters", it's certainly not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. it does not smell like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and the color is not yellowish, it's just colorless, like water. i think that it's just "an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice", but i'm not a medical expert on that matter.
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[quote=goyave]i'm not a physician and i can't answer to all of your questions, but according to my own experience with a few "squirters", it's certainly not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. it does not smell like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and the color is not yellowish, it's just colorless, like water. i think that it's just "an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice", but i'm not a medical expert on that matter.[/quote]yep - that sounds like it. the girl this happened with for me, remember she wasn't thai, was very thankful afterwards. much more so than the ones who make all the noises and, could be faking it.
by the way. think the thai medical explanation of this is 'nahm tuap'
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[QUOTE=Sushilover808]Aloha All!
This is my first trip to Pattaya. I arrived last night and was truly amazed at what goes on in Walking Street. There were many people offering live sex shows with a cover charge that started at 500 baht but quickly went down to as little as 200 baht.
I did read the forum and saw that Babydolls is the place to go. I have 2 questions: 1) Is Babydolls still the place to go to watch a live sex show or is there a better place? 2) What cover charge should I pay, if any at all.
I'm staying at the Discovery Bay hotel. If anyone wants to meet up tonight for a drink to scope out the action tonight, please PM!
Thanks in advance for your help![/QUOTE]
There are a few gogos with shows (one is in the same street as Babydoll, opposite side of the street, a little before if I remember well). There's no charge, only your drinks (it is fair to tip the girl if you play with her, i.e. put your finger in pussy). I would stay away from touts asking for cover charge. I never tried but it looks like rip-offs. If you google gogo bar reviews, gogo bar guides, etc... you'll find some websites giving a lot of info.
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Is it Misty?
[QUOTE=El Frances]There are a few gogos with shows (one is in the same street as Babydoll, opposite side of the street, a little before if I remember well). There's no charge, only your drinks (it is fair to tip the girl if you play with her, i.e. put your finger in pussy). I would stay away from touts asking for cover charge. I never tried but it looks like rip-offs. If you google gogo bar reviews, gogo bar guides, etc... you'll find some websites giving a lot of info.[/QUOTE]
I Googled "gogo bar reviews pattaya" and found a listing of the many bars. I couldn't find anything that specifically mentioned sex shows. Anyway, I'll be haeding over there tonight about 9 pm in search of a good sex show. I'll report back tomorrow.
Anyone else have an opinion?
aloha, sl
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[QUOTE=El Frances]you'll find some websites giving a lot of info.[/QUOTE]Such as this website, for instance: [url]http://www.thai-anxiety.com/gogo.asp[/url]
It's a great resource of information for Pattaya nightlife.
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[QUOTE=Sushilover808]I Googled "gogo bar reviews pattaya" and found a listing of the many bars. I couldn't find anything that specifically mentioned sex shows. Anyway, I'll be haeding over there tonight about 9 pm in search of a good sex show. I'll report back tomorrow.
Anyone else have an opinion?
aloha, sl[/QUOTE]Many places put on shows that are quite well choreographed. I like Angel Witch located in one of the small streets off Walking Street.
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[quote=goyave]i'm not a physician and i can't answer to all of your questions, but according to my own experience with a few "squirters", it's certainly not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. it does not smell like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and the color is not yellowish, it's just colorless, like water. i think that it's just "an abundance of normal pussy lubricating juice", but i'm not a medical expert on that matter.[/quote]neither am i a chef, but i can tell you that it doesn't have a pleasant flavor!
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[QUOTE=Sushilover808]Aloha All!
This is my first trip to Pattaya. I arrived last night and was truly amazed at what goes on in Walking Street. There were many people offering live sex shows with a cover charge that started at 500 baht but quickly went down to as little as 200 baht.
I did read the forum and saw that Babydolls is the place to go. I have 2 questions: 1) Is Babydolls still the place to go to watch a live sex show or is there a better place? 2) What cover charge should I pay, if any at all.
I'm staying at the Discovery Bay hotel. If anyone wants to meet up tonight for a drink to scope out the action tonight, please PM!
Thanks in advance for your help![/QUOTE]Yo go to Pattaya Street Club and Lucifers. Lot of girls there who just want some attention and will go with you all nite long and only will want money for a cab in the morning.
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Hi everybody!
I am going to pattaya first time, in a xouple of weeks. Whats the going rate for goldenshowers both ways. and how about bdsm?
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Stale!
[QUOTE=El Frances]There are a few gogos with shows (one is in the same street as Babydoll, opposite side of the street, a little before if I remember well). There's no charge, only your drinks (it is fair to tip the girl if you play with her, i.e. put your finger in pussy). I would stay away from touts asking for cover charge. I never tried but it looks like rip-offs. If you google gogo bar reviews, gogo bar guides, etc... you'll find some websites giving a lot of info.[/QUOTE]
I went to the bar opposite Babydoll, up a small flight of stairs. There was a 200 baht cover charge that included 1 drink. There were 3 stages. The first had 2 panty clad girls dancing, the next a soap show, and on the back bed type area there was a totally naked girl. No sex show or other show. I only stayed about 15~20 minutes. Not recommended.
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[QUOTE=Sushilover808]I went to the bar opposite Babydoll, up a small flight of stairs. There was a 200 baht cover charge that included 1 drink. There were 3 stages. The first had 2 panty clad girls dancing, the next a soap show, and on the back bed type area there was a totally naked girl. No sex show or other show. I only stayed about 15~20 minutes. Not recommended.[/QUOTE]
I have never been asked to pay a cover charge in any bar or go go in Pattaya.
Do you pay a cover charge in every bar or go go you go in?
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[b]Kermit2048[/b]: Might be a 1-poster, but obviously a player. Great post.
Very fun read; thanks. Look forward to hearing about the rest of your week.
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creampie thais foiled?
saw this message on Pattaya addicts forum, but I'm not a senior member there so I can't read the report. Anyone know the story? Just curious.
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[QUOTE=Bonzo1]saw this message on Pattaya addicts forum, but I'm not a senior member there so I can't read the report. Anyone know the story? Just curious.[/QUOTE]
Here it is ... enjoy:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/04/09/american-arrested-in-pattaya-pornography-scandal/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/17865/suspected-american-porn-producer-arrested-by-police-in-pattaya/[/url]
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Cpt/asd
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Here it is ... enjoy:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/04/09/american-arrested-in-pattaya-pornography-scandal/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/17865/suspected-american-porn-producer-arrested-by-police-in-pattaya/[/url][/QUOTE]
Very interesting. Anyone knew this guy?
The "official story" is of course crap. One of the people commenting below the second article said pretty much exactly what I suspect happened (below)...I suspect several girls got together in a scheme against him. That said, it was a pretty obvious risk he was taking from the git go, and the drugs and weapon are just insane.
More relevantly, how do people these days feel about the risks of photoing/filming (for totally private use)?
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"My guess is that some of those girls (perhaps by suggestion from their friends or families) decided to take “advantage” of the legal issues in Thailand relating to porn and started blackmailing him. After he finally got fed up and told them/her to get lost, she/they complained and the guy got busted"
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[QUOTE=Nhill76]Yo go to Pattaya Street Club and Lucifers. Lot of girls there who just want some attention and will go with you all nite long and only will want money for a cab in the morning.[/QUOTE]
Please explain more about this.
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[QUOTE=Nhill76]Yo go to Pattaya Street Club and Lucifers. Lot of girls there who just want some attention and will go with you all nite long and only will want money for a cab in the morning.[/QUOTE]
For me Taxi money was a 1000 Bath bill!
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]I have never been asked to pay a cover charge in any bar or go go in Pattaya.
Do you pay a cover charge in every bar or go go you go in?[/QUOTE]
Same for me. I'm not so interested in shows so Im not a specialist. I just followed some friends. I went to babydoll, to another place with two floors (nothing on second floor), with girls licking each other in a bath, etc... and another bar with a bath at the end with a girl allowing you to put your finger up it, etc... I don't remember the names.
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Pattaya again
I will be visiting again for about 7-8 days after Songkran has finished, Songkran is ok once only then never again. Any members wants to meet up for a few beers and a tour round town let me know.
May the force be with you.
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[QUOTE=Lapworks]Hi everybody!
I am going to pattaya first time, in a xouple of weeks. Whats the going rate for goldenshowers both ways. and how about bdsm?[/QUOTE]
I'll be happy to give you one in person for 2500 BHT. Or I could just mail you a specimen for 1500 BHT.
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[QUOTE=David 2]I'll be happy to give you one in person for 2500 BHT. Or I could just mail you a specimen for 1500 BHT.[/QUOTE]
Don't trust David2 - I took up his offer last month, and for my 1500Bt he sent me a small plastic container of beer. Same thing happened when I sent him another 1500Bht last week.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Please explain more about this.[/QUOTE]I was in Pattaya a month ago. We went to the little gogo bars to warm ourselves up but once it got later in the nite, we went to these two clubs and picked up girls there. Both of the girls I got in these clubs were wildcats in bed and were hot as hell. In the morning, both girls told me that they didn't want my money, they just wanted me but ultimately I ended up giving the first one the standard rate for a cab rid. The second one didn't want any money at all but she was so ridiculously gorgeous and sexy that I did break her off a 1000 baht bill cause I had a shit toon of baht that I was going to have to take to get exchanged in a few hours anyhow. I seriously thought about going UA from my ship and stay in Thailand with this chick. She gave me her number and I may see her again at the end of the year as I'm planning to spend new years in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Piper1]Don't trust David2 - I took up his offer last month, and for my 1500Bt he sent me a small plastic container of beer. Same thing happened when I sent him another 1500Bht last week.[/QUOTE]
Looks like you got the SM thrown in for free. ;)
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First Report from Old Newbie
i've been a long time lurker and fortunate to learn tons from senior/other members on isg (thank you all). this is for all the newbies (as i once was). i apologize if this includes any inaccuracies, but i tried to vet all the info based on what i've read, experienced and researched ([url]www.urbandictionary.com[/url] is also really useful).
soi = street (so soi 6 is usually parallel to soi 7)
short time (st) = 1 x pop or 2 hrs, whichever comes first
long time (lt) = 1 x pop + sleep + 1 x pop (eg go with her to your place, shag, sleep, then shag in the morning before her departure)
go-go ("a-go-go" is the local term) = gentlemen's club, escorts are nude or scantily dressed, sometimes there's a show (either stripper style, vegas cabaret-ish or banana/ping-pong/dart type)
beer bar = bar where the employees are escorts and dressed normal for a night out
sex massage = turkish bath (= japan's soapie massage) = she baths the patron + massages him with her figure + bj + shag
freelancer = streetwalker (but can also be found in the disco/danceclubs, regular restaurants, malls, etc = working independently (currently not affiliated with a go-go/beer bar/etc or off-duty)
amateur = occasional freelancer (eg hair stylist/cashier/student but is willing to go with a patron)
bar fine = fee = amount paid to the business (go-go, beer bar, etc) allowing patron to employ the escort for short/long time services; term also used as a verb eg "they're leaving because he bar fined her"
short time room = approx 2 hr room rental costing about baht 300 ($9)
"smoke" = bj (some escorts don't know what either "smoke" or "blowjob" means)
finish = completion of services of climax
2) pattaya terminology (not relevant to bangkok)
soi 6 = street with mostly cathouses = baht 300 ($9) bar fine which includes use of a short time room upstairs + baht 500 ($15) or baht 700 ($21) to the escort for short time services = baht 700 or baht 1, 000 for the whole shebang
beach road girl = freelancers/amateurs who work the strand running along pattaya beach
bj bar (bangkok probably has some) = places where escorts specialize in bj's and may not even offer intercourse; at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s the baht 700 ($21) covers everything (= bar fine + short time room + fee to the girl)
3) hierarchy (from most expensive/best looking to the least); below are approx pattaya prices whereas bangkok is baht 500 ($15) or baht 1, 000 ($30) more for the escort's services
go-go showgirls = bar fine baht 600 ($18) + st baht 1, 500 ($45) or lt baht 2, 500 ($75)
go-go girls (non-showgirls) = bar fine baht 500 ($15) + st baht 1, 000 ($30) or lt baht 2, 000 ($60)
beer bar = baht 300 ($9) bar fine + st baht 800 ($24) or lt 1, 500 ($45)
freelancer = st baht 500 to 1, 000 ($15. $30) = lt baht 1, 000 to 2, 000 ($30. $60)
beach road girl = st baht 500 ($15) = freelancers more amenable to additional patron requirements (cim, nude photos/filming, three-holer.)
separate category since these escorts also serve as an masseuse: sex massage = baht 2, 000 ($60) = use of the facilities and she baths the patron + massages him with her figure + bj + shag
4) misc
-attractiveness = there are ugly go-go showgirls and there are hot freelancers, so looks vary dramatically
-safety = escorts from a business (go-go, etc) are licensed (must be min 18 y/o, have regular std testing); a freelancer doesn't answer to a mamasan or any boss
-payment = pay to the escort is usually at the end of st/lt (as patron and/or escort are headed out the door)
-business terms = everything's negotiable and an escort is not obligated to provide a service (cim, anal, 3 x pops during st, etc) if it wasn't agreed upon beforehand, but her pay can be docked if she does not hold up her end of an agreement (eg provides no morning pop even though the deal was for lt services)
-tipping = rarely given but if service was exceptional some patrons give the escort baht 100. 300 ("taxi money" is usually baht 100)
[size=-2][b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]
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Beer Bar prices
[QUOTE=Amex Spg]Beer Bar = Baht 300 ($9) bar fine + ST Baht 800 ($24) or LT 1, 500 ($45)[/QUOTE]I have always found beer bar prices to be:
BF= 200-300 B, ST= 500B LT= 1000B
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[quote=amex spg]...short time (st) = 1 x pop or 2 hrs, whichever comes first[/quote]
short time duration greatly varies depending on the place and/or the provider. in a local brothel, the standard st duration is about 30-45 minutes only. many freelancers in pattaya and bangkok for instance would consider that 1 hour is the maximum duration of a st session with them, while for certain freelancers and girls picked up from certain locations, 3 hours and multiple pops with the provider are possible. one should ask the provider about this matter (and about the things that you want to do with her during the session) before making any deal.
[quote=amex spg].. bj bar (bangkok probably has some)...[/quote]
yes. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s (on sukhimvit soi 8) is one of them, but there are a few others (such as star of light on patpong 2, for instance).
a list of the bj bars in bangkok can be found here: [url]http://www.sukhumvit-psycho.com/other-places/bj-bars/[/url]
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Beach Road
This time I arrived in Pattaya in the morning. About noon I met up with some friends and we took a walk down Beach Road to check on some clothes they were having made. By mid afternoon I still hadn't had anything to take the edge off. As we walked back to Soi 8 I found something in front of Royal Garden. We went over to PS Guesthouse on Soi 13/1 next to Starbucks for ST. The room was 100 Baht and I gave the girl 400 baht. She was a cool chick. No rush and good service.
After we fucked we laid around a while shooting the shit. She was telling me how crazy some mongers were for the services they wanted.
pics in foto section [post]1008515[/post]
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Safe way to trael pattaya?
Hello,
I am planning to take one day break journey in Bangkok and hit Pattaya.
Is it really good idea to go Pattaya or can I get same thing in Bngkok (I mean clubs for drinking and sex)?
If I want to go Pattaya, any recommendations on where to stay and which club to go and how to commute? Is Penthhouse a good option? It looks they have everything at one place.
By the way I been to Tijuana many times, are Pattaya/Bangkok clubs similar?
Thanks
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That was interesting!
[QUOTE=Opebo]This service is easy to find among providers over 30 - perhaps 10-20% do so provide. For quite a few of them it is their big selling point that keeps them busy despite not looking so good anymore.
Under 25 it is so rare as to be almost nonexistent (as we all know girls under 25 are not very common in the business anymore, even for ordinary service). If you're lucky you might find one in that 25-30 sweet spot who can do the Third Way. Keep looking![/QUOTE]
I am always planning a trip to Thailand... some more infos or some Info how to obtain anal friendly girls apart the advertized Devil's Den...
thanks
IT
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[QUOTE=Amex Spg]I've been a long time lurker and fortunate to learn tons from senior/other members on ISG (thank you all). This is for all the newbies (as I once was). I apologize if this includes any inaccuracies, but I tried to vet all the info based on what I've read, experienced and researched ([url]www.Urbandictionary.com[/url] is also really useful).
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Great job! I would correct the FL LT price which is 1000 in most of the case. Also attractiveness, you're right but in most of the cases the pretty girls are in Gogos.
Safety: nothing is 100% safe. I met a 19 yo girl in a Gogo who told me she worked there before but has stopped during 2 years before coming back to work (Hmm! 19-2=?)
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Walking Street Hotels and Go-Gos
[QUOTE=Santij]Hello,
I am planning to take one day break journey in Bangkok and hit Pattaya.
Is it really good idea to go Pattaya or can I get same thing in Bngkok (I mean clubs for drinking and sex)?
If I want to go Pattaya, any recommendations on where to stay and which club to go and how to commute? Is Penthhouse a good option? It looks they have everything at one place.
By the way I been to Tijuana many times, are Pattaya/Bangkok clubs similar?
Thanks[/QUOTE]In Bangkok the three main P4P areas are Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza and Patpong night market (which are only a few BTS stops from each other, or you could even walk from one location to the next). Those areas have a good concentration of Go-Gos, plus beer bars. For body massage/sex massage/Turkish bath, around Prince Hotel (about Baht 100 taxi ride) are a dozen or so fish-bowl places, with 10. 40 women per fish-bowl.
-I prefer Pattaya, and to stay on Walking Street (my next choice would be the Soi 7 area due the proximity to Soi 6 and the beer bar concentration at Soi 7 and 8). On Walking Street there's [url]www.galaxysuitespattaya.com[/url], [url]www.Diamondbeachhotel.com[/url] or [url]www.swissfood.net[/url].
-For disco clubs, from 2300-0200 try Candy Shop or Lucifer, from 0200-0300 Marine, and 0300-0800 Insomnia. For Go-Go clubs my three favorites are Superbaby, Supergirl and AirPort. I think Peppermint (next to Marine disco) has the most quantity of girls, and also Beach Go-Go. Iron, Roxy and Baccara are also pretty good.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]This time I arrived in Pattaya in the morning. About noon I met up with some friends and we took a walk down Beach Road to check on some clothes they were having made. By mid afternoon I still hadn't had anything to take the edge off. As we walked back to Soi 8 I found something in front of Royal Garden. We went over to PS Guesthouse on Soi 13/1 next to Starbucks for ST. The room was 100 Baht and I gave the girl 400 baht. She was a cool chick. No rush and good service.
After we fucked we laid around a while shooting the shit. She was telling me how crazy some mongers were for the services they wanted.
Pics in foto section [post]1008515[/post][/QUOTE]I have been sitting on the outside reading the postings and, I don't normally have the urge to reply but, in this case I feel I have to.
I am sure that the Chick from the Beach Road is a very nice girl. Maybe she has three kids in the village and, is doing her best to support them. I am OK with this.
But, what I am not OK with, is the message this sends to the rest of the world. Maybe she helped you with your 'edge' but, I am sure people who might be coming to Pattaya or, thinking about coming to Pattaya, are now on edge. As I said, she is probably a very nice girl but, at best, she is a 2 out of 10 and, from what I can make out of the room, this is a 1 out of 10.
OK, I understand that you had had edge that needing massaging but, did you really need to show the pictures?
My message to all the guys out there is:
Don't worry. You should be able to find some sevens to nines in Pattaya. Maybe the odd ten. You can also find rooms of a much better quality. I am following the Penthouse thread and could well be giving this a try at the end of the month.
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Pattaya nude shows
Hi,
I will be going to Pattaya next week end for the first time. Can anyone advise where I can enjoy nude and lesbian shows such as those in Soi Cowboy in Bangkok ?
Thanks in davance
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[QUOTE=Bramley Boy]As I said, she is probably a very nice girl but, at best, she is a 2 out of 10 and, from what I can make out of the room, this is a 1 out of 10.
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Don't worry. You should be able to find some sevens to nines in Pattaya. Maybe the odd ten. You can also find rooms of a much better quality. I am following the Penthouse thread and could well be giving this a try at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]
Mr. E's 7+ woman might not be your 7+ woman and your 7+ woman might not be my 7+ woman. It's always good to remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As for the room, he said it was a 100 baht ST room, so I wouldn't expect a super clean quality room for that price. In the end it's all about personal preferences.
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[QUOTE=The Scout]Mr. E's 7+ woman might not be your 7+ woman and your 7+ woman might not be my 7+ woman. It's always good to remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. As for the room, he said it was a 100 baht ST room, so I wouldn't expect a super clean quality room for that price. In the end it's all about personal preferences.[/QUOTE]
False. "pretty but not quite beautiful" is in the eye of the beholder. It's only when we get to a mix of appealing and non-appealing traits that we disagree. When we see something amazing, we all agree. 7's are not beauties, or they wouldn't be getting 3 points knocked off. Trust me, if I put a pic of a 10 up here along with a bunch of 7s and 6s, asked everybody to pick which is hottest, they're all gonna pick the 10. Ask which comes 2nd and they'll spread the vote around.
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[QUOTE=Bramley Boy]I have been sitting on the outside reading the postings and, I don't normally have the urge to reply ...
My message to all the guys out there is:
Don't worry. You should be able to find some sevens to nines in Pattaya. Maybe the odd ten. You can also find rooms of a much better quality. I am following the Penthouse thread and could well be giving this a try at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]I arrived in Pattaya 3 days ago. Left BKK after the demonstrations turned hairy, and it seems I'm not alone, Pattay is rocking! Talked with a few Americans who are staying at my hotel and said they left BKK early to come down here for the same reason.
I've been hitting walking street and going to Baby Dolls, Baccara, Beach Bar and Angelwitch. Out of all the bars mentioned, Angelwitch, IMHO, has the hottest girls. Many 10's and 9's. I've walked the beach road area and there are a shit-load of girls and katoys, but they aren't that hot or at least not my taste. Also, a ton of Russian wh0res walking around, but really not that hot.
I've been seeing one girl from Chiang Mai who works at Baby Dolls; bar fine was B700 and hanging out overnight (Long time) was B1500. She likes the show at Angelwitch and we are probably going back tonight. She is going to help me work one of the Superstars there, #16 and negociate a short time for me. I fucking love Thailand!
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Mr. E, don't take this the wrong way
[QUOTE=Bramley Boy]
OK, I understand that you had had edge that needing massaging but, did you really need to show the pictures?
My message to all the guys out there is:
Don't worry. You should be able to find some sevens to nines in Pattaya. Maybe the odd ten. You can also find rooms of a much better quality. I am following the Penthouse thread and could well be giving this a try at the end of the month.[/QUOTE]
Ha ha.. I was tempted to reply to Mr. E with three "Why's"
Why did you take HER?
Why did you take pics?
Why did you post pics?
Of course the first 2 why's are up to him, but the 3rd includes "us" too.
I'm sure you had a good time and I'm glad you were happy with her. It's just her pictures weren't very "pleasing".
I'm not as worried as BB that lurkers might get the wrong impression of what is available in Pattaya. I think the less punters, the better.
Some may say, such "criticism" of Mr. E's pics are unwarranted, but really, we see all kinds of comments about pics like "Wow, she is hot!" , etc. and no one seems to mind, so why not an honest appraisal of the other end of the spectrum?
I hope Mr. E has a sense of humor about it, whether it is beer goggles or all the blood going to the wrong head, it is kind of funny.
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I have never done this in all the years I have been on this board. Maybe I have but I just don't remember?
Slackerslacker 35 post,
Bramley Boy 2 post?
Your answer is pretty much given by Wendalla and The Scout! Now instead of ripping and making fun of Mr. E, you two might want to Put up or shut Up!
The answer to the three Why's?
1. He had to smooth his edge and she was the sharpest razor on the Beach
2. He had a camera with plenty of space
3. Because he has the right too! just like you exercise your right to criticize him.
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I have never done this in all the years I have been on this board. Maybe I have but I just don't remember?
Slackerslacker 35 post,
Bramley Boy 2 post?
Your answer is pretty much given by Wendalla and The Scout! Now instead of ripping and making fun of Mr. E, you two might want to Put up or shut Up!
The answer to the three Why's?
1. He had to smooth his edge and she was the sharpest razor on the Beach
2. He had a camera with plenty of space
3. Because he has the right too! just like you exercise your right to criticize him.
LBM[/QUOTE]Who rattled your cage? Come on? Either in all the years you have done it or you haven't?
Sharpest Razor on the Breach - What does that say about the rest of the razors? Again, I must add that, I am sure she is a very nice girl with, and this gets talked about a lot in Thailand, a very good heart. Not a black heart, not a hot heart and, not a cold heart. But, she is not a beauty. Can I suggest a few people go for a quick check up at Top Charoen? (this is an optician located very close to the beach - free check up)
As a Senior Member with, over 1,000 posts, I am sure you are the man but, new posters, who have been watching for sometime, are not allowed to comment? Do we have to go through an induction period with, someone like you as our mentor, before we can comment?
What, in particular, would you like us to put up?
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Does anybody know what happened to the Pattaya news web site [url]www.pattayaone.net[/url]?
I haven't been able to access it lately.
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another Why?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I have never done this in all the years I have been on this board. Maybe I have but I just don't remember?
Slackerslacker 35 post,
Bramley Boy 2 post?
Your answer is pretty much given by Wendalla and The Scout! Now instead of ripping and making fun of Mr. E, you two might want to Put up or shut Up!
The answer to the three Why's?
1. He had to smooth his edge and she was the sharpest razor on the Beach
2. He had a camera with plenty of space
3. Because he has the right too! just like you exercise your right to criticize him.
LBM[/QUOTE]
Why not make fun of Mr. E's pics?
He chose a fugly in a land of cute spinners.
I already said the first 2 Why's are up to him, but the posting of the pics invites comments.
Pics of girls are commented on constantly, obviously reflecting the opinion/tastes of the commenter.
I'm sure Mr. E can do his own objecting if he is offended. I hope I haven't driven away people from participating in the forum. Ha ha.
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Peanut Gallery
[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Why not make fun of Mr. E's pics?
He chose a fugly in a land of cute spinners.
I already said the first 2 Why's are up to him, but the posting of the pics invites comments.
Pics of girls are commented on constantly, obviously reflecting the opinion/tastes of the commenter.
I'm sure Mr. E can do his own objecting if he is offended. I hope I haven't driven away people from participating in the forum. Ha ha.[/QUOTE]
I don't recall entering a contest here. Like Chris Rock said, the people with the least shit always have to say the most shit. You never see a regular poster critiquing another regular poster. It's always the lurkers or fly-by-nighters that want to sneak in the back door and try to get things stirred up.
My reputation speaks for itself on this board and with the the people who I have had the pleasure to meet from here in several countries. I have mongered enough on this planet, and certainly in Thailand, that I have become jaded and know not to always go for what is glittering. I am not trying to impress anyone here (especially anyone who has less posts since being a member than I have had in the past two weeks.)
My goal was not to ooooh and aaaaah the board with pictures of paid SPs. I have done enough of that in the past and it does not in the least bit stroke my ego. My goal was simply to inform the board of Beach Road prices and the location and price of a ST hotel in the vicinity. Still, if any of you wish to enlighten us with any new informative reports or "impress" us by showing us photos of the ladies you have paid and the places you have stayed, then by all means we are waiting to see your work. If not, then go sit back down and remain quiet as you have done before.
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[QUOTE=Bramley Boy]Who rattled your cage? Come on? Either in all the years you have done it or you haven't?
Sharpest Razor on the Breach - What does that say about the rest of the razors? Again, I must add that, I am sure she is a very nice girl with, and this gets talked about a lot in Thailand, a very good heart. Not a black heart, not a hot heart and, not a cold heart. But, she is not a beauty. Can I suggest a few people go for a quick check up at Top Charoen? (this is an optician located very close to the beach - free check up)
As a Senior Member with, over 1,000 posts, I am sure you are the man but, new posters, who have been watching for sometime, are not allowed to comment? Do we have to go through an induction period with, someone like you as our mentor, before we can comment?
What, in particular, would you like us to put up?[/QUOTE]
I think instead of getting glasses you need to maybe get some Brain Focus medication for yourself because you don't seem to get it. The number of post really doesn't have any to do with it nor does being Senior member! You can say whatever you like and I certainly don't enjoy stepping in and pointing out to you that you have pay for your membership so did Mr. E... so what is the problem with him posting his photos?
You seem to like to judge others while taking offense to others judging you! If you don't like the photos, why writing a book criticizing his choice and photos, just move on! You have a right to your opinions I merely suggest you put up! meaning some photos of your own since you so freely seem to think and like to criticise others for their choices. In the end 3 post and all criticism! Is that your induction to all of us into this site? Please get real!
A correction for you... I'm not the man whether I have 1 post or 2,000 post but I certainly not going to sit back and watch a 2 poster member poster start dictating to everyone what they personally consider to be beauty?
Mr. E... thanks for saying what I just don't have the patients to say!
LBM
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[QUOTE=Naughty]Does anybody know what happened to the Pattaya news web site [url]www.pattayaone.net[/url]?
I haven't been able to access it lately.[/QUOTE]
There was a message on the site earlier indicating that they were/are moving to a new server this week but they are back online now.
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[QUOTE=Blkanjil]I arrived in Pattaya 3 days ago ...
I've been seeing one girl from Chiang Mai who works at Baby Dolls; bar fine was B700 and hanging out overnight (Long time) was B1500. She likes the show at Angelwitch and we are probably going back tonight. She is going to help me work one of the Superstars there, #16 and negociate a short time for me. I fucking love Thailand![/QUOTE]Went to Angelwitch with my girl last night, to see if I could hookup with Superstar #16. Which was a no-go. Spoke with her, but she was already hanging with another guy and told me she can't get barfined until after 1 AM. She told me that the 'customer" she's with is leaving Pattaya today, so that if I can come back tonight, we can make it happen.
I then started talking about cost, and she told me that B1000 baht was the the barfine in Angelwitch, and for ST it was B2000/LT B4000. I didn't start negociating yet with her, I'll save it for tonight. Has any board member BFed an Angelwitch girl and what were the prices? I figure I will try and cut the LT in half and go from there.
In any event, I went back with my Chiang Mai chick and her friend last-night, ate some scorpions, and knocked it out with both till the sun came up. God, I love Thailand!
BlkAnjil
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Tastes like chicken?
[QUOTE=Blkanjil]...In any event, I went back with my Chiang Mai chick and her friend last-night, ate some scorpions, and knocked it out with both till the sun came up. God, I love Thailand![/QUOTE]Hey, nice shot of a couple of cuties...Nat and Nan. Great smiles. I bet they were fun!
You ate scorpion? I've eaten spider in Cambodia and assorted bugs in the LOS (the silkworm crunchies are good), but never tried scorpion. What's it taste like?
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Tight schedule
What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?
a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.
d. Proceed to use her mouth, face and body as a cum bucket – 30 seconds (only kidding ;) – say 10 minutes).
e. Pay her a purply, apologise for the red eye and kick her out.
Some moralistic hypocritical assholes here try to push the message that we ought to be going 12 rounds with our consciences for using and abusing these poor little third world sweeties (and then goes out and buys one!). Hahahaha!!
However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sad
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[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Hey, nice shot of a couple of cuties...Nat and Nan. Great smiles. I bet they were fun!
You ate scorpion? I've eaten spider in Cambodia and assorted bugs in the LOS (the silkworm crunchies are good), but never tried scorpion. What's it taste like?[/QUOTE]They are are cool and work great as a tag team! They both work at Baby Dolls. Scorpions tasted kinda salty, crunchy and peppery, not bad, but if I had choice between them and the fried baby frogs, I'd go with the frogs!
Here's Nat w/ a scorpion lastnight.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?
a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.
d. Proceed to use her mouth, face and body as a cum bucket – 30 seconds (only kidding ;) – say 10 minutes).
e. Pay her a purply, apologise for the red eye and kick her out.
Some moralistic hypocritical assholes here try to push the message that we ought to be going 12 rounds with our consciences for using and abusing these poor little third world sweeties (and then goes out and buys one!). Hahahaha!!
However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sad[/QUOTE]Going to take your suggestion, sounds like a good plan. I got 30 mins and 500 baht. Just hope not to wake sleeping beauty!
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Amex Spg,
Many thanks for your report, it is alawys good to have an update on the prices so we can prepare our budgets and plans.
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[QUOTE=Blkanjil]Went to Angelwitch with my girl last night, to see if I could hookup with Superstar #16. Which was a no-go. Spoke with her, but she was already hanging with another guy and told me she can't get barfined until after 1 AM. She told me that the 'customer" she's with is leaving Pattaya today, so that if I can come back tonight, we can make it happen.
I then started talking about cost, and she told me that B1000 baht was the the barfine in Angelwitch, and for ST it was B2000/LT B4000. I didn't start negociating yet with her, I'll save it for tonight. Has any board member BFed an Angelwitch girl and what were the prices? I figure I will try and cut the LT in half and go from there.
In any event, I went back with my Chiang Mai chick and her friend last-night, ate some scorpions, and knocked it out with both till the sun came up. God, I love Thailand!
BlkAnjil[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are having a great time. Really like the picture.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I think instead of getting glasses you need to maybe get some Brain Focus medication for yourself because you don't seem to get it. The number of post really doesn't have any to do with it nor does being Senior member! You can say whatever you like and I certainly don't enjoy stepping in and pointing out to you that you have pay for your membership so did Mr. E... so what is the problem with him posting his photos?
You seem to like to judge others while taking offense to others judging you! If you don't like the photos, why writing a book criticizing his choice and photos, just move on! You have a right to your opinions I merely suggest you put up! meaning some photos of your own since you so freely seem to think and like to criticise others for their choices. In the end 3 post and all criticism! Is that your induction to all of us into this site? Please get real!
A correction for you... I'm not the man whether I have 1 post or 2,000 post but I certainly not going to sit back and watch a 2 poster member poster start dictating to everyone what they personally consider to be beauty?
Mr. E... thanks for saying what I just don't have the patients to say!
LBM[/QUOTE]Did you see the post today by BIkanjil? Sounds like he is having a real blast and, his picture really turned me on. How about you? Did this stir you?
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Final thoughts
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I don't recall entering a contest here. [/QUOTE]
I guess we can move to PM's to discuss this in detail.
I'll write this to Mr. E, since it was his pics. I don't know if he and LittleMan are a couple,but I assume Mr. E is the husband.
You're right, you didn't enter a contest. Just some comments about your pics. LittleMan overreacted on your behalf.
The pics I've posted have been for the benefit and enjoyment of the other forumites, not for me, obviously I've already seen them.
If someone told me the pictures were unappealing I would take the criticism to heart and think about my pic choices more closely.
Why can't an honest response be taken as that, not as a personal attack? The girl was fugly, not nice to look at, so be it.
Not the first time I've noticed such thin skin on this site. Everyone seems to take themselves so seriously. A little humor, even if it has some bite, is a good thing.
:) Happy Times
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[QUOTE=Pytheas Mars]Hi,
I will be going to Pattaya next week end for the first time. Can anyone advise where I can enjoy nude and lesbian shows such as those in Soi Cowboy in Bangkok ?
Thanks in davance[/QUOTE]
There are plenty of go gos that offer what you are looking for x zone & windmill to name a couple.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]
However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sad[/QUOTE]
I would look twice, before I would wake up sleeping beauty. For me he looks like a lady boy. Judging from the size of the feeds and the shape of the jaw.;)
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Beach road girls
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?
a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.
d. Proceed to use her mouth, face and body as a cum bucket – 30 seconds (only kidding ;) – say 10 minutes).
e. Pay her a purply, apologise for the red eye and kick her out.
Some moralistic hypocritical assholes here try to push the message that we ought to be going 12 rounds with our consciences for using and abusing these poor little third world sweeties (and then goes out and buys one!). Hahahaha!!
However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sad[/QUOTE]
So good to see that there are still some kind, sensitive, caring humanitarians left in this world.
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Hit then run
Nice! You hit it before the meltdown....
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?
a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.
d. Proceed to use her mouth, face and body as a cum bucket – 30 seconds (only kidding ;) – say 10 minutes).
e. Pay her a purply, apologise for the red eye and kick her out.
Some moralistic hypocritical assholes here try to push the message that we ought to be going 12 rounds with our consciences for using and abusing these poor little third world sweeties (and then goes out and buys one!). Hahahaha!!
However, sometimes a girl does spends too long working the stretch and then it can chew them up and spit them out. Maybe sleeping beauty was a looker in the not too distant past. Not now. How sad[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]There was a message on the site earlier indicating that they were/are moving to a new server this week but they are back online now.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Run Mann.
I will now depart to get my daily fix of news and trivia from P-one!
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[QUOTE=DG69]I would look twice, before I would wake up sleeping beauty. For me he looks like a lady boy. Judging from the size of the feeds and the shape of the jaw.;)[/QUOTE]
Sleeping handsome. ;)
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[QUOTE=David 2]So good to see that there are still some kind, sensitive, caring humanitarians left in this world.[/QUOTE]
Yes we have a petition at the Vatican to make Cunning Stunt a saint.
Actually the way things are going there lately, it wouldn't surprise me.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]What to do with a spare 30 minutes and 500 baht in Pattaya?
a. Walk from hotel to Beach Road – 5 minutes.
b. Find a suitable girl – 10 minutes.
c. Walk back to hotel – 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Please do not get too comfortable or spoiled my friend - perhaps you are too young to remember, but there were many periods of months on end just a few years ago when Beach Road was completely shut down by the authorities, and no suitable girl was to be had, even if you looked for hours, much less ten minutes. Even today 'suitable' is far more rare on the Beach than it was a few years back.
Like so many things in life, enjoy while it lasts - it will not last.
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Happy Bar and Airport Club w/ some Bar Girl Drama!
Checked out Happy Bar last night and definitely had a couple of 10s and 9s. I like #22 with the big-ass back Dragon tattoo that goes from her shoulders on down her right leg, nice! Had a bunch of Japanese ATMs show up (thick frame glasses, flower shirts, shorts, sandles w/ socks, and man-bags around their necks) and so I made my escape. As I walked out of the bar, a girl in a sexy flight attendant outfit caught my eye, so I followed her.
I work closely with the airlines in the US, so this interested me greatly. And she led me right to the Airport Club. It's a great club; kinda tight, but deep. I had a pocket full of small gold pilot wings, I usually give them out to flight attendants as give away items. They were gold in this place! Mammasan was the first to get a set., then gave them out to the Captains on down. I ended up buying a drink for one girl, #38; tall with big tits and a stomach tattoo. She was hot, very interactive so I spoke with Mammasan about taking her out.
She told me that the bar-fine was B1500 before 12 midnight, then B1000 after. This was one of the highest I had seen in Pattaya, so I figure it was up for negotiation (it's everything in Pattaya?). After talking with Mammasan, we agreed to B800 bar-fine, B2000 longtime. And it was about 1130 PM when we finally left.
Before we left the bar, I asked Mammasan if she'd take a pic with me outside the bar (so I show my co-workers this bar) and she said yes, but she wanted a copy. I have my iPhone, so we took it with that and I sent her it through email and text message. Later on this would be important.
We got back to my hotel room and started knocking it out. She gave me a sexy strip show, then I started banging her doggy-style against the desk. We finished off on the bed, her on top while I played with her big tits. She got up to clean up, I dropped my condom in the trash and went in to join her in the shower. She soaped me up and rinsed me off, and then we got out to dry off. Her phone rang and she answered it.
After she got off the phone, she started getting dressed. I asked her what's up, and she said her friend called and was sick, so she had to go help her. I figured it was bullshit, she just wanted to grab a new trick, but I wasn't going to argue. I was just going to call my regular to come by. As she was leaving, I gave her B1000. And she went crazy! She said I had to give her B2000, that was the agreement. I countered that she changed it from long time to short time, so I was only going to pay B1000. She picked up my Airbook laptop that was on my desk and threatened to smash it.
My first instinct was to lunge at her, grab my laptop from her and slap the shit out of her. But I checked myself: I'm in a foreign country and didn't want to cause an issue that may involve police in the end. I remembered that I had Mammasan's number, so I figured I'd pay her and get her the fuck out of here, then deal with it. I paid her B2000 and she left.
I called Mammasan and it went to voice mail, so I figured I would leave a message and send her a text message. Surprisingly she called me right back. We discussed the issue and said that she would talk with the girl and get back to me. She called me back and told that if I came by tonight, she would have the girl pay me back the B1000, apologize and buy me a drink or 2. I will stop over and see what happens.
So I learned something. Making friends with Mammasan and getting her contact numbers can be useful, you never know when you'll need it.
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If you're coming to Pattaya to skip the politics of BKK, be aware that the water games are on. However, on Monday it will be an all day water war and love fest. Today I was riding behind this fat expat looking guy who was on his scooter and kept putting his hand up to the crowds indicating he was not playing the water games but the natives would have none of it and he was doused and soaking wet after five minutes, he was so pissed because he kept yelling asshole to anyone who sprayed him, it was a funny scene. If you don’t want to get wet stay indoors till 8 pm or ride in a car like I do, it was ugly out there today!
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]If you're coming to Pattaya to skip the politics of BKK, be aware that the water games are on. However, on Monday it will be an all day water war and love fest. Today I was riding behind this fat expat looking guy who was on his scooter and kept putting his hand up to the crowds indicating he was not playing the water games but the natives would have none of it and he was doused and soaking wet after five minutes, he was so pissed because he kept yelling asshole to anyone who sprayed him, it was a funny scene. If you don’t want to get wet stay indoors till 8 pm or ride in a car like I do, it was ugly out there today![/QUOTE]
8pm? ... does that mean that one could after 8pm venture out from Jomtien to Walking Street on a motorbike and arrive dry? (I doubt it)
Also ... is it... the madness I mean ... really over on the 19th? I read somewhere that the last day of Songkran in Pattaya this year was the 20th.
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]There are plenty of go gos that offer what you are looking for x zone & windmill to name a couple.[/QUOTE]Many GoGo bars on Walking Street have shower/bath and lesbian shows. Some more names are: BabyDolls, Air Port Club and What's Up. Some guys were in Baby Doll's and were having a blast soaping up the girls and rinsing them off, using dildos on the girls. One even jumped in the bath and they showered him off.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]8pm? ... does that mean that one could after 8pm venture out from Jomtien to Walking Street on a motorbike and arrive dry? (I doubt it)
Also ... is it... the madness I mean ... really over on the 19th? I read somewhere that the last day of Songkran in Pattaya this year was the 20th.[/QUOTE]Usually by 7-8 pm it's cool to walk around without getting wet. But during the day, expect it and dress accordingly. I have a waterproof zip-lock bag I keep my money and cellphone in. Believe me, you are going to get drenched. On days that I need to go somewhere and don't want to get wet, I have a meter taxi guy that I call and he takes me around.
The thing to keep in mind is that this is one of their biggest (and longest) festival of the year. Deal with the festivities or just stay inside until evening. Someone mentioned seeing a farang driving around on his scooter and getting pissed when they threw water on him. I saw one, too (maybe the same guy) and he actually got off his bike to confront some of the beer bar girls who were throwing water. Every other beer bar girl on the street came over and let him have it, as well as other westerners that were celebrating, it was awesome!
The 18th and 19th are the biggest days. Everyone will be out in force.
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[QUOTE=Blkanjil]Going to take your suggestion, sounds like a good plan. I got 30 mins and 500 baht. Just hope not to wake sleeping beauty![/QUOTE]BIkanjil - Really been enjoying your reports. This is what first timers do here.
Hope you were joking with your comments about following in the foot steps of the 'Seasoned Pattaya Ex-Pat Pros.' This is not what first timers do.
For me, these 'Seasoned Pattaya Ex-Pat Pros' come in two categories:
1. Retired Ex-Pat Living on his pension. Maybe they live alone and, don't even like Thai people. Once or twice a week they get an itch and, they go and grab something from the beach. They know they can get something for 400 Baht. This is OK for them. The way the exchange rate is going their monthly supplies of Bahts is getting less and less.
2. Married to a Thai for a few years and, possibly paid hundreds of thousands of Bahts to their wife and, her family up in the village. The wife soon gets bored with 'Falang Sex' and, if the falang is lucky, she might consent once a month. So, obviously he gets the itch and, has to follow the beach babe path as well. But, for this guy it is worse. He is paying double. His wife at home (who is maybe - eating, watching TV, sleeping or playing cards) and, the beach babe.
This is very sad. Beach Babe sex becomes something like going to the doctor or the dentist. You have to go to cure the itch.
How do I know? Well, I fall into category 2 but, I got out as quickly as I could and, I have not yet joined the rush for beach babes.
Whatever happens BIkanjil - keep having fun.
Almost forgot. One more category and, the old joke. How to turn a fox into an elephant? Marry it.
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Two Fun Beach Road girls
Cruised Beach Road the other night. There are not as many ladies out as usual due to the Songkran holiday. I noticed that no one on the Beach Road side where the ladies are were shooting/throwing water. That was only going on on the other side of the street.
I always like two ladies and it took little effort to find two of them. I found the first girl-the one with the shorter hair-first. She was bubbly and fun and agreed to 600 baht with pics. I asked her about her friend and her first friend refused because she did not want her photo taken. Fine. No problem. I will pass. Then she asked her next friend who turned out to be a good choice. She was just as much friend as her friend. Alot of laughing, fucking, cumming(they both had good orgasms). Gave each 1000 because of the great job they did.
Take your time when you are looking guys and get what you want. You wont always find the stunners but sometimes the fun makes up for it.
Showdown
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[QUOTE=Blkanjil]Checked out Happy Bar last night and definitely had a couple of 10s and 9s. I like #22 with the big-ass back Dragon tattoo that goes from her shoulders on down her right leg, nice! ...
... She called me back and told that if I came by tonight, she would have the girl pay me back the B1000, apologize and buy me a drink or 2. I will stop over and see what happens.[/QUOTE]So last night I stop by Happy Bar because I couldn't get the "Back Dragon" girl out of my head. Picked her up for 600 Baht bar-fine and 2000 Baht Long Time. She was awesome. Tall, cute, small tits for my taste, but made up for it with her enthusiasm and willingness to please.
I debated about stopping off at airport at Air Port Club, just didn't want to deal with the drama, so I called Mammasan told her that I had forgotten about the whole deal and thanked her for her offer. Mammasan insisted that I stop over. So I did. With Back Dragon girl.
Mammasan was very nice and pleasant to me and had the girl who had given me drama return my money to me. She was very appologetic, but I think it was half an act she did for my benifit, "wai-ing" the whole time and saying sorry. I hadn't told Back Dragon about this prior to entering, so she was pretty entertained by the whole event.
Mammasan explained to her what happened the other night, and she started giggling, then said to me, "hey, you didn't get Happy Bar Mammasan telephone number. We go back? " We both left and returned to my hotel room.
Once we were back in the room, we had an awesome time, although something weird happened. She kept asking if I could make her pregnant. I said no, I won't, I promise I always wear a condom. She said no, she wanted to have a baby with a foreigner. Her friend just had a baby with a foreign father and they are very good looking. She said she was just over her period and said she can get pregnant now.
I told her that I had a vasectomy and couldn't have kids (which is a lie), but I really didn't want to go bare-backing a professional sex worker in the sex capital of the world. Is this common for Thai girls wanting a baby with a foreigner because of looks? Or maybe it's a ploy to get a child support from an overseas father, in any event, I didn't want to find out.
Well, it's cloudy out and rainy, I thing I'm going to call in a 2 hr massage from Teen Massage this afternoon.
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[QUOTE=Bramley Boy]Hope you were joking with your comments about following in the foot steps of the 'Seasoned Pattaya Ex-Pat Pros.' This is not what first timers do ...
Whatever happens BIkanjil - keep having fun.
Almost forgot. One more category and, the old joke. How to turn a fox into an elephant? Marry it.[/QUOTE]No worries. I actually did walk beach road, in between the Songkran celebrations yesterday and really found nothing that interests me. I did call in a massage from Teen Massage this afternoon and had a great time.
My doorbell rang and I opened it, and there was my massage girl soaked to the bone! She was beautiful, but completely soaked with powder on her face. We laughed about Songkran and it gave her an excuse to get out of her clothes quickly. Her name was Pet, and she told me she was my personal Teen Massage specialist and she was awesome. The oil massage was excellent (2hr 700 Baht) and when she flipped me over, she was kneeling between my legs and then put my legs up onto her thighs. She started giving me an awesome ball and taint massage.
She probably spent about 10 minutes on my balls, seperating them and massaging them individually and together. My balls have never had a massage like this. She them bent down and blew me, which with all the attention on my balls, I didn't last long.
After she cleaned me up, she went back to massaging my legs and hips, doing the pelvis rock, which of course got me hard again. At this point she mentioned prices (I guess the first release was free): Handjob was 300 Baht, blow job was 500 Baht and fucking was 800 Baht. She also had a package deal: a blow job & cum w/ fuck & cum was 1000 Baht. She also said ATM was 2000 Baht. I was confused and asked her to explain, and she said ATM meant "ass to mouth". LOL! I knew this term in the US, but wasn't expecting it from this girl in Thailand, I thought it had something to do with automatic tellers.
I ended up with package number 1 (BJ & Fuck with 2 nutts) and it was awesome. She was a bit of a kink, too. She laid on the bed, hung her head off the edge and let me fuck her mouth until I came. She them let me recover, gently sucked me hard again and then let me fuck her brains out till I shot my load. We showered up, and then she put her wet clothes on and headed back into the wet jaws of the Songkran festivities.
God I love Thailand!
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[QUOTE=Showdown]Two Fun Beach Road girls[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure fun photographs well. Guess you had to be there.
You know theres a photo gallery, thats' where pix like these are supposed to go.
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[QUOTE=DG69]
I don't speak from the beachroad girls, but from the higher tier Club girls. It's true if you are known as a big spender and expensive girls are around you, you might impress them. Though is this result worth all those effort? If they are too proud to consider you as a client, than you will most likely not get a good service.[/QUOTE]
Everything is timing and opportunity. You don't necessarily have to drop bank so that women want to be with you. If you are reasonably attractive (which is why I prefer Pattaya over Phuket-too many good looking European dudes there), have some game, humour and are just plain fun to be with, women want to be with you (SP or otherwise). The higher end talent can afford to be choosy (since most of them have sponsors).
That being said, I truly regret now (since I had such a short time in Pattaya to play), that I wasn't more on my game and just mashing and dashing. Still pissed off about not just tapping the go-go girls at Superbabys and moving on to next ones at Lucifers, Marine, and Insomnia (either way never heard of a bar demanding ST payment AT THE BAR first).
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[QUOTE=Blkanjil]No worries. I actually did walk beach road, in between the Songkran celebrations yesterday and really found nothing that interests me. I did call in a massage from Teen Massage this afternoon and had a great time.
My doorbell rang and I opened it, and there was my massage girl soaked to the bone! She was beautiful, but completely soaked with powder on her face. We laughed about Songkran and it gave her an excuse to get out of her clothes quickly. Her name was Pet, and she told me she was my personal Teen Massage specialist and she was awesome. The oil massage was excellent (2hr 700 Baht) and when she flipped me over, she was kneeling between my legs and then put my legs up onto her thighs. She started giving me an awesome ball and taint massage.
She probably spent about 10 minutes on my balls, seperating them and massaging them individually and together. My balls have never had a massage like this. She them bent down and blew me, which with all the attention on my balls, I didn't last long.
After she cleaned me up, she went back to massaging my legs and hips, doing the pelvis rock, which of course got me hard again. At this point she mentioned prices (I guess the first release was free): Handjob was 300 Baht, blow job was 500 Baht and fucking was 800 Baht. She also had a package deal: a blow job & cum w/ fuck & cum was 1000 Baht. She also said ATM was 2000 Baht. I was confused and asked her to explain, and she said ATM meant "ass to mouth". LOL! I knew this term in the US, but wasn't expecting it from this girl in Thailand, I thought it had something to do with automatic tellers.
I ended up with package number 1 (BJ & Fuck with 2 nutts) and it was awesome. She was a bit of a kink, too. She laid on the bed, hung her head off the edge and let me fuck her mouth until I came. She them let me recover, gently sucked me hard again and then let me fuck her brains out till I shot my load. We showered up, and then she put her wet clothes on and headed back into the wet jaws of the Songkran festivities.
God I love Thailand!
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Was she from Dream Teen Massage at Soi 21 or an other place?
Would love to have a massage like that when I arrive in 2 weeks.
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[QUOTE=Blkanjil]I did call in a massage from Teen Massage this afternoon and had a great time.
My doorbell rang and I opened it, and there was my massage girl soaked to the bone! She was beautiful, but completely soaked with powder on her face. We laughed about Songkran and it gave her an excuse to get out of her clothes quickly. Her name was Pet, and she told me she was my personal Teen Massage specialist and she was awesome. The oil massage was excellent (2hr 700 Baht) [/QUOTE]
Presumably you meant Dream Teen massage, (never heard of Teen Massage in Pattaya), I also used them about two weeks ago but the 2 hours outcall session is 1000B, and the 700B fee is for the onsite locate only. X, who is not the best looker in town, said she is 18 but her body and (training) boobs are a little soft and she is a little heavier than her pics on the site. She is a real cum stopper though with good suction and she's a gagger. However, she starts out quoting some silly prices for her services but as is the case with many of these girls, they will come back to earth once they realize you know the game.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Presumably you meant Dream Teen massage, (never heard of Teen Massage in Pattaya), I also used them about two weeks ago but the 2 hours outcall session is 1000B ... they will come back to earth once they realize you know the game.[/QUOTE]You are correct, it was Dream Teen Massage. I just got in from the pool, looks like a great afternoon for another massage. I may have ordered the hr long oil & ball massage. After negotiations, it lasted for 2. I need something to prepare me for the heavy lifting I'm hoping to do tonight.
Went to a GoGo bar lastnight and I may have my a possibility for an "Austin Powers" fantasy. There are twin sisters that work there, I spoke with them last night, but they had already been bar-fined. I explained I wanted to take them both for longtime and they started at 6000 Baht for both! Awesome! So I have made plans to go back tonight and see if I can work it. I gave her half a US $100 bill (I wasn't going to tear a Baht bill with the King's image on it) as a "promise seed" in hope that I can get them both bar-fined.
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Hi Gang , Need some Intel My sponseree is complaining Things are very slow in pattya
She writes from pattya "I don't have money more.
I have to use money because in here is Songkran. I work too hard and don't have day off. Don't have the customer more because have a problem in Thailand. "
Anyways I read in threads that actually Pattaya is busy as people are abandoning BKK for pattya right now.
I give her a stipend of 6000 bht every 3 weeks, when I am not there. As she calls it "little bit of freedom". Anyways because of this unrest in thaiand, I am sure all of us are getting the I don't have any money emails. Do we have any soliders/punter on the ground. I would highly appreciate some intel.
Thank you
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[QUOTE=Blkanjil]After she got off the phone, she started getting dressed. I asked her what's up, and she said her friend called and was sick, so she had to go help her. I figured it was bullshit, she just wanted to grab a new trick, but I wasn't going to argue. I was just going to call my regular to come by. As she was leaving, I gave her B1000. And she went crazy! She said I had to give her B2000, that was the agreement. I countered that she changed it from long time to short time, so I was only going to pay B1000. [/QUOTE]
In my experience this is common with pattaya gogo girls. Better to take her for ST first and only extend to LT if she's a keeper.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]In my experience this is common with pattaya gogo girls. Better to take her for ST first and only extend to LT if she's a keeper.[/QUOTE]Good advice, thanks.
I will try that tonight!
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Photos here photos there
[QUOTE=Wendella]I'm not sure fun photographs well. Guess you had to be there.
You know theres a photo gallery, thats' where pix like these are supposed to go.[/QUOTE]
At the time of this writing, the Pattaya Reports section has 525 photos posted. I see nothing wrong with posting photos about Pattaya in the Pattaya section and obviously many others don't as well.
It is nice to read the story and have a few photos at hand, not having to jump over to the Photo section and look for the photos that match the story.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]At the time of this writing, the Pattaya Reports section has 525 photos posted. I see nothing wrong with posting photos about Pattaya in the Pattaya section and obviously many others don't as well.
It is nice to read the story and have a few photos at hand, not having to jump over to the Photo section and look for the photos that match the story.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. "supposed to" was not the best word choice. "Can" would have been better. Guess it's more of a personal thing on my part, not wanting to see pics of ones that look that...um... fun -- a main reason I don't look at the photo gallery thread, where photos of fun but certainly not stunning girls seem to be all the rage, hard to avoid. Guess I should just train myself better not to click on the pix links.
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]"I don't have money more.[/QUOTE]One born every minute.
It wouldn't matter if the entire Seventh Fleet was in town.
This is the BG equivalent of going to the ATM and pushing the requisite buttons in the hope that money will be dispensed.
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]She writes from pattya "I don't have money more.
I have to use money because in here is Songkran. I work too hard and don't have day off. Don't have the customer more because have a problem in Thailand. "[/QUOTE]Sorry. Pattaya is packed with everyone who left BKK. I am one of them! Maybe you should look into a new sponsoree.
Now I understand what they mean by a "Walking ATM."
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]She writes from pattya "I don't have money more.
I have to use money because in here is Songkran. I work too hard and don't have day off. Don't have the customer more because have a problem in Thailand. "
Anyways I read in threads that actually Pattaya is busy as people are abandoning BKK for pattya right now.
I give her a stipend of 6000 bht every 3 weeks, when I am not there. As she calls it "little bit of freedom". Anyways because of this unrest in thaiand, I am sure all of us are getting the I don't have any money emails. Do we have any soliders/punter on the ground. I would highly appreciate some intel.
Thank you[/QUOTE]
My advice: Stop sponsoring her NOW and come to your senses, man.
The lady is a prostitute, and your "stipend" is just gravy to her.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]My advice: Stop sponsoring her NOW and come to your senses, man.
The lady is a prostitute, and your "stipend" is just gravy to her.[/QUOTE]
LOL I second this and there is only one type of 'gravy' you should be giving her and it ain't money.
Was in an internet cafe in Pattaya last August and watched a BG and a friend writing emails to three different dudes. So don't feel guilt cos they'll be some other chump stepping up to take your place.
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[QUOTE=Dazednconfused]This is the BG equivalent of going to the ATM and pushing the requisite buttons in the hope that money will be dispensed.[/QUOTE]
Lo and behold, sometimes, it does !!!!
LMAO
A stipend of 6,000 a month. Just think, if she is smart enough to have 5 idiots like that on the hook each month. This girl is doing well for herself.
Who says you need a college education to make money. You need a nice smile, and a bunch of suckers.
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[QUOTE=1Ball]Lo and behold, sometimes, it does !!!!
LMAO
A stipend of 6,000 a month. Just think, if she is smart enough to have 5 idiots like that on the hook each month. This girl is doing well for herself.
Who says you need a college education to make money. You need a nice smile, and a bunch of suckers.[/QUOTE]
6,000 is actually low. Most good-looking BGs will garner 30,000 baht a month or more from each sponsor. The go-go showgirls earn AT LEAST 100k baht per month from various sponsors. I've met girls who have 7-8 different boyfriends - each sending them money each month. It can really add up.
Come to your senses - do not under any circumstances send these girls money. Bang them then broom them. They are for renting only. Would you sponsor a prostitute from your own country?
But don't take my word for it - there's an entire site filled with stories from guys just like you who have been scammed. [url]www.stickmanbangkok.com[/url] - go to reader submissions and have a good read while the rose-colored glasses (hopefully) come off.
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"6,000 is actually low. Most good-looking BGs will garner 30,000 baht a month or more from each sponsor. The go-go showgirls earn AT LEAST 100k baht per month from various sponsors. I've met girls who have 7-8 different boyfriends - each sending them money each month. It can really add up."
I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.
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[QUOTE=1Ball]..A stipend of 6,000 a month. Just think, if she is smart enough to have 5 idiots like that on the hook each month. This girl is doing well for herself...[/QUOTE]
Yep.
Actually, the gentleman said he gives her 6000 every 3 weeks, which works out to 8666 Baht per month -- more than enough to pay for a nice apartment with a sea view in Pattaya, or, as was said below, to buy a healthy water buffalo for the family.
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[QUOTE=Pointy Stick]"6,000 is actually low. Most good-looking BGs will garner 30,000 baht a month or more from each sponsor. The go-go showgirls earn AT LEAST 100k baht per month from various sponsors. I've met girls who have 7-8 different boyfriends - each sending them money each month. It can really add up."
I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.[/QUOTE]
I met a girl in Beergarten of all the places who was getting close to 30,000 Baht from a German guy. She had the use of his apartment, nice car. I was driving around town in his car with this girl. She was 27 years quite pretty, tall. We even took a ride to Auyuthaya. However she got more than ticked off when I scratched her car when I was trying park in a tight corner. I was drunk. It was a minor paint job. She never asked me money but I did give her some efore leaving. But I am sure either from boredom or trying to make extra money she is hanging around Beergarten.
She said she is with this German for 7 years who comes twice a year each time for two weeks. She said he hardly stays in BKK instead likes the beach destinations.
What a nice life for her although I believe a short one till the guy finds another young girl!
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[QUOTE=Pointy Stick]"6,000 is actually low. Most good-looking BGs will garner 30,000 baht a month or more from each sponsor. The go-go showgirls earn AT LEAST 100k baht per month from various sponsors. I've met girls who have 7-8 different boyfriends - each sending them money each month. It can really add up."
I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.[/QUOTE]The chick I am banging regular showed me pics of her family and their house in Nong Khai (sp?). It was no nippa hut on stilts that's for sure, with lot's of toys for the whole family (HiLux, lot's of scooters, plasma & karaoke machine, ect.). She has 4 brothers and another older sister (she's second youngest). From the looks of the pics and what she was telling me, she's the bread winner for the whole family: brothers have no work, sister married, no papa, ect.
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[QUOTE=Pointy Stick]
I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.[/QUOTE]
Google "Swiss Village" - you'll see plenty of evidence of this.
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[QUOTE=Pointy Stick]I'd be interested to know if anyone has visited these girls villages to see how tricked out their parent's domiciles are. This kind of cash buys a lot of water buffalo in anyone's language.[/QUOTE]
Shit I got to Isaan a lot, to many different villages to see girls and their families. 10 K is huge for these families they feel like they hit the lottery. But so what? If a guy wants to sponsor a girl and he knows he is flushing his money then let him.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Shit I got to Isaan a lot, to many different villages to see girls and their families. 10 K is huge for these families they feel like they hit the lottery. But so what? If a guy wants to sponsor a girl and he knows he is flushing his money then let him.[/QUOTE]Maybe his way of "making merit" for his next life?
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[QUOTE=Blkanjil]Maybe his way of "making merit" for his next life?[/QUOTE]Does it matter why they do it? As long as they understand they are flushing their money then who cares...
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Shit I got to Isaan a lot, to many different villages to see girls and their families. 10 K is huge for these families they feel like they hit the lottery. But so what? If a guy wants to sponsor a girl and he knows he is flushing his money then let him.[/QUOTE]
Yeah maybe you're right. This is the kinda socialism I can live with. At least the guy gets something out of it in this situation like some poontang and some fake affection. Does anyone think that dole bludgers living in welfare state in the west would give two squirts of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] when we're forced to contribute their upkeep.
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[QUOTE=Pointy Stick]Yeah maybe you're right. This is the kinda socialism I can live with. At least the guy gets something out of it in this situation like some poontang and some fake affection. Does anyone think that dole bludgers living in welfare state in the west would give two squirts of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] when we're forced to contribute their upkeep.[/QUOTE]300 USD can buy / rent you a lot of "love" and for a long time in Thailand. I would rather flush it there then in EU or USA or such.
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Yes, I sponsor some poor hooker from Thailand, and always Will.
I have never seen such a small amount of of money, make such a difference anywhere. Every year we pay millions of dollars to these corporate charities, they give often less than 10 percent to the real poor recipients. I have always been top producer in anything I have done, I take the most sophisticated professionals to the cleaners daily. No body is pulling wool over my eyes.
I help these women freely. I am currently not a some retiree on fixed income, with my sincerest respect to all retirees. $70 a week is nothing to me it's like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to me, I would rather spend it to help some poor hooker, whose family and village and as**hole lazy Thailand (their elitist cast system/over population) and their lazy fu*K Thai males have, abandoned to the wolves. Never understood the lack of valor with these Thai men.
I think will always sponsor some poor Asian hooker/prostitute. I hope she has 10-15 other guys on the hook, I say good for her. Guys are so chintzy, to show that "no body is taking advantage of me". Perhaps it's part of cumming in their mouths treating them like sh*t. Perhaps the first step is to first dehumanize these lost poor souls.
PS. my respects to all the senior members, I always appreciate your experience & wisdom. Who knows perhaps by post number #835 my views may change. Time will tell.
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]...I think will always sponsor some poor Asian hooker/prostitute. I hope she has 10-15 other guys on the hook, I say good for her. Guys are so chintzy, to show that "no body is taking advantage of me". Perhaps it's part of cumming in their mouths treating them like sh*t. Perhaps the first step is to first dehumanize these lost poor souls...[/QUOTE]
No need to ruffle your feathers, InventionGuy. So you're a rich guy who likes to spend his cash on sponsoring Thai prostitutes. That's perfectly noble and fine with me. If it feels good, do it. I agree with you that it's better to give your money to a whor* than a government thug, but, sadly, you can't deduct it as a charity on your tax return.
These girls have names for guys like you and it's not always Jai Dee. By giving them money for nothing, you'll get a lot of "love" and attention, but I doubt if you'll get any respect.
BTW -- cumming in their mouths is not treating then like shit any more than licking their pussies. Treating them like shit means flushing them down the toilet.
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Hey, Jackson!!!
[QUOTE=InventionGuy]I have never seen such a small amount of of money, make such a difference anywhere. Every year we pay millions of dollars to these corporate charities, they give often less than 10 percent to the real poor recipients. I have always been top producer in anything I have done, I take the most sophisticated professionals to the cleaners daily. No body is pulling wool over my eyes.
I help these women freely. I am currently not a some retiree on fixed income, with my sincerest respect to all retirees. $70 a week is nothing to me it's like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to me, I would rather spend it to help some poor hooker, whose family and village and as**hole lazy Thailand (their elitist cast system/over population) and their lazy fu*K Thai males have, abandoned to the wolves. Never understood the lack of valor with these Thai men.
I think will always sponsor some poor Asian hooker/prostitute. I hope she has 10-15 other guys on the hook, I say good for her. Guys are so chintzy, to show that "no body is taking advantage of me". Perhaps it's part of cumming in their mouths treating them like sh*t. Perhaps the first step is to first dehumanize these lost poor souls.
PS. my respects to all the senior members, I always appreciate your experience & wisdom. Who knows perhaps by post number #835 my views may change. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]
I know that the "Thai Women - Opinions and Advice" was moved to the Expats Forum. But I think that this discussion proves the need for it in the regular Thai forum.
Most certainly this discussion does not belong in the "Reports" section.
No flame guys, just a discussion in the wrong place!
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I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.
Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living.
It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance.
It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls.
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Moved here as maybe more appropriate
Cunning Stunt
Hahahaha - begs the question of if you have seen my dick so many times and don't really need to see it again, then why open the links? Couldn't you resist the urge?
Furthermore as it was encased in a big red party balloon, you couldn't really see a great deal of the offending organ. Also rather difficult to omit it in a photo of it buried in the ladies pussy and being given oral attention.
Sp whats your real problem?
Saint Mint
Hahahaha - All right I was lying. I, secretly, love seeing your super dick. Especially wrapped up in a strawberry condom. I spend all day, surfing the net, hoping to come across your super dick. I am quite partial to chocolate. So, wrapping it in this would really throw me over the edge. But, I just think, this might not be the place for your super dick. Isn’t there a special place for these pictures? Just think of all the people who, visit this special place and, are missing out. Remember, we are talking about a hotel and girls. Get yourself a banner? I certainly will not be able to resist the urge to click on it.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]I agree with you that it's better to give your money to a whor* than a government thug, but, sadly, you can't deduct it as a charity on your tax return.[/QUOTE]Depends how creative you get and what country you are from. :D Some of us from certain countries are lucky enough we can write off daily allowance, travel, and more in a lump sum per day.
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]$70 a week is nothing to me[/QUOTE]
So what are you asking for "intel" for? Why force her to make up some bullshit story? It's undignified. Just send the money already.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]
These girls have names for guys like you and it's not always Jai Dee. By giving them money for nothing, you'll get a lot of "love" and attention, but I doubt if you'll get any respect.
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Are guys actually looking for respect from thai prostitutes? Trying to gain respect from any thai is a daunting task!
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[QUOTE=Evianist]I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.
Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living.
It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance.
It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls.[/QUOTE]
It is very true. It is not easy to date young attractive girls in the west.
This why sex tourism is prevalent. And these girls even though demand money act like your GF.
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]I have never seen such a small amount of of money, make such a difference anywhere. Every year we pay millions of dollars to these corporate charities, they give often less than 10 percent to the real poor recipients. I have always been top producer in anything I have done, I take the most sophisticated professionals to the cleaners daily. No body is pulling wool over my eyes.
I help these women freely. I am currently not a some retiree on fixed income, with my sincerest respect to all retirees. $70 a week is nothing to me it's like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] to me, I would rather spend it to help some poor hooker, whose family and village and as**hole lazy Thailand (their elitist cast system/over population) and their lazy fu*K Thai males have, abandoned to the wolves. Never understood the lack of valor with these Thai men.
I think will always sponsor some poor Asian hooker/prostitute. I hope she has 10-15 other guys on the hook, I say good for her. Guys are so chintzy, to show that "no body is taking advantage of me". Perhaps it's part of cumming in their mouths treating them like sh*t. Perhaps the first step is to first dehumanize these lost poor souls.
PS. my respects to all the senior members, I always appreciate your experience & wisdom. Who knows perhaps by post number #835 my views may change. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]
Good for you. Personally, i have respect for sponsors, atleast they have a big heart. And these are folks, who make bar girls tick when the going gets tough. I have long long long time ago accepted that people can cheat me, take advantage of me, that bar girls are for money and they have 100 other sponsors, they don't love me, they love my money etc etc.....thats why i kept my user name born loser....
I don't want to be smart for few dollars, a luxury car and a big apartment...now my life is much more easier and i can do many things, that i couldn't do by wasting my time fighting the system.
I can see things more clearly what is really going on behind the facade of they call monetary system.
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Good for you. Personally, i have respect for sponsors, atleast they have a big heart. And these are folks, who make bar girls tick when the going gets tough. I have long long long time ago accepted that people can cheat me, take advantage of me, that bar girls are for money and they have 100 other sponsors, they don't love me, they love my money etc etc.....thats why i kept my user name born loser.
I don't want to be smart for few dollars, a luxury car and a big apartment...now my life is much more easier and i can do many things, that i couldn't do by wasting my time fighting the system.
I can see things more clearly what is really going on behind the facade of they call monetary system.[/QUOTE]Best report I have read in weeks. Should be in the 'Reports of Distinction' section.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Are guys actually looking for respect from thai prostitutes? Trying to gain respect from any thai is a daunting task![/QUOTE]Have to comment on this one. When you say 'respect from any Thai is a daunting task,' what are you basing this on? There are many Thais, working side by side with falangs, in many International Companies. Especially on the many Industrial Estates. Bangplee, Bangpoo, Hi-Tech, Amata Nakorn, Amata City, Eastern Seaboard etc. I have seen and, enjoyed a lot of respect from people working in some of these Industrial Estates. I worked in one for more than ten years and, in the course of buisiess, visited many others.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.
Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living.
It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance.
It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls.[/QUOTE]Sounds like the voice of experience. Did you fall into the trap as well? I did for sure!! Yep, the days of attracting the young attractive bar girls, for 500 Baht, are long gone. Left overs on the beach cost that now. We must not forget that the big spending Japanese and Koreans are also creating havoc. Splashing out 5,000 Baht + per night. I fear that, even if the guys were forced to do some kind of mental training, it will not make any difference. The rules of the game have changed and, the good old days will never return.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.
Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living.
It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance.
It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls.[/QUOTE]
So I read this post. Then I read it again, and again and I can only infer that you were just checking to see if anyone was paying attention. Or, was it something else…
[Quote] “I think the problem is that a lot of guys have never had any experience in dating young, very attractive women in real life.” [Quote]
No, probably not and I guess you probably have this one locked up but exactly what gave it away??? His posting on a SEX forum, admitting he spends thousands of dollars on prostitutes in underdeveloped countries and has for a while or was it something else?
[Quote] Then they head over to Thailand and are forced to do so for the first time with hardened professionals who extract money from men for a living. [Quote]
Forced!?! Hmmm, now how does that work? Did he fall into some secret underground mongering trafficking ring operating in BKK?
I had a couple of “hardened professionals” last week in the Caribbean who, just as you are suggesting, extracted money from me! In fact they said they do it for a living!!! I KNOW!!! YOUR AS SHOCKED AS I AM..............I’m just hoping they will still be there when I return next week…
[Quote] It's a situation where the guys never really have a chance. [Quote]
A chance at what? Sounds like he’s got what he’s looking for.
[Quote] It's too bad these guys aren't forced to undergo some sort of mental training before arriving in Thailand, because these "sponsors" really ruin things for those of us looking for decent service at fair prices from attractive bargirls. [Quote]
This is the best part. Now who exactly would perform this “forced mental training”? Is there something you want to share with us about these fantasies of yours????? Its OK. After a few drinks, the lights dim, it’s a balmy Bangkok nite and everyones hands are roaming everwhere and the music is working it magic and all that manly “forced mental training” is going on all around you, its easy to get aroused. Please relax your inhibitions and tell us more about these fantasies……and then explain the ruined state of the Thailand P4P sex scene....
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]I have never seen such a small amount of of money, make such a difference anywhere...[/QUOTE]
Just for your information, what you send (6000 baht every 3 weeks, that's about 8667 baht/month) is slightly less than the average monthly wage in Thailand (8848 bahts per month at the end of year 2008, according to the [url="http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4504/ber2009p6.gif"]Bangkok Post Economic Review[/url]). Therefore, for the "average Thai", that makes a difference.
The rest of your post seems a bit "trollish" to me (just my humble opinion), so, I won't comment on it, but I really laughed my ass off when I read your post scriptum...
[QUOTE=InventionGuy]PS. my respects to all the senior members, I always appreciate your experience & wisdom. Who knows perhaps by post number #835 my views may change. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]
Well, let's see! You've been a member here since... July, 24th 2003! And you've posted only two reports so far. In almost 7 years! Sorry, but I won't hold my breath. I'm only in my early forties, but if you keep that pace, I'm afraid I won't be there to read your 835th contribution in these forums! :D
Seriously, why have not you posted anything earlier, mate?
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Good for you. Personally, i have respect for sponsors, atleast they have a big heart. [/QUOTE]
A big heart won't get you very far in Thailand. In fact, it's a weakness. But most sponsors are weak people anyways.
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I'm calling "bull shit"
[QUOTE=Amjeck]A big heart won't get you very far in Thailand. In fact, it's a weakness. But most sponsors are weak people anyways.[/QUOTE]
No, most sponsors have more money than they need to enjoy the lifestyle they have chosen. And, all of this discussion about "being used" or not having "respect" from these girls that are just trying to survive, is dismaying. Don't ever do anything that you don't want to do! I say: "live your fantasy even if you are old, probably a little fat, and maybe bald. You know, those that sleep with their mouths open. Look in the dictionary you will see their photo. Jackson needs to add this to the definitions. Yep, those are the folks that have the cash to "sponsor". The old fuckers often get the cream of the crop? Now, is that fair. And, applying rudimentary economic reality, these sponsorships tend to increase the price from the casual buyer. Hey, don't blame me, I just the messenger.
And, who gives a shit whether your little darling has a number of sponsors, as long as she is not servicing another sponsor when your are a sponsor and are with her. Not likely unless you are into threesomes with someone that looks like you. My answer is, no thanks.
Fuck, respect yourself. If a sponsorship is your choice, then own it. Besides, all this "respect" bullshit is really a reflection of ego, and it is an insecure one who is looking for respect from a young girl who sells her body for her bread. At least when you die there will be at least one person who will think that your life had meaning. Get it?
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If you want to have a big heart then maybe you should donate to an orphanage or people who really need it.
If you haven't noticed, working girls in thailand aren't exactly starving.
Sponsoring them has no practical purpose.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]A big heart won't get you very far in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I don't know about that... got me into Bumrungrad :)
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[QUOTE=Legal Tender]
And, who gives a shit whether your little darling has a number of sponsors, as long as she is not servicing another sponsor when your are a sponsor and are with her. [/QUOTE]
I've literally fucked thai girls as they are on the phone to their sponsors in a western country. My cock slides in and out of their pussy as they say "thanks babe for the western union.... I love you too...." Then I tell them in Thai "dumb farang" and they nod in agreement.
IMO if you sponsor a prostitute you are a fool. If you pick a non-pro quality girl who deserves sponsoring, then that is something different.
It's your life and can do what you want, but I'm entitled to my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Legal Tender]...The old fuckers often get the cream of the crop? Now, is that fair. And, applying rudimentary economic reality, these sponsorships tend to increase the price from the casual buyer. Hey, don't blame me, I just the messenger...[/QUOTE]
Hey, I'm one of the "old fuckers" enjoying the cream of the crop. Of course it's fair. I don't have to sponsor them -- I fuck them while their sponsors sit at home wanking at their computers while wiring them money. I pay them less than the tourist market rates because of all the sponsor gravy they're getting.
And, I also enjoy their respect, if only for the fact that they know I'm not a damned fool.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've literally fucked thai girls as they are on the phone to their sponsors in a western country. My cock slides in and out of their pussy as they say "thanks babe for the western union.... I love you too...." Then I tell them in Thai "dumb farang" and they nod in agreement.
IMO if you sponsor a prostitute you are a fool. If you pick a non-pro quality girl who deserves sponsoring, then that is something different.
It's your life and can do what you want, but I'm entitled to my opinion.[/QUOTE]
And your opinion is absolutely correct, not only in Thailand but in the Philippines (where I live) and in Cambodia (where I am now) as well. The fact is that the two week wonders who come over to this part of the world and fall instantly in love with some bar girl do not and never will get it. They don't stay long enough to learn anything, and they remain absolutely convinced, despite what they may read on forums like this, that their girls are "different." All that those of us who live here can do is shake our collective heads in wonderment at the naivete of these guys.
GE
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My sponsorship of 6000-9000-10,000+ bht per month
Once again I don't care, I don't want any respect from a Thai hooker, it's all about money with these girls. A PHD. Psychologist, once told me, "that not a single human action is done without motivation."
Even the posts here including our mongering fraternity and sharing of intel, is to prevent price inflation, and to share the efficient access to the tasty female Thai flesh. All selfish reasons for every single individual reader/member.
My sponsorship of 6000-9000-10,000+ bht per month (depending on my mood), itself is a form of entertainment and perhaps a form of control over these women. I make her do things with her life, usually for the better. Now for free pussy & respect, If I put my life on hold to live in Thailand (ie. Not fight the west's economic jungle). I would probably pay nothing for the pussy, and I would probably screw some girls for free.
Bending some hookers mind to give it up for free is not too difficult. I am neither fat, old, short or bald. A many 25 year old pretty and financially independent*keyword* females, regularly chase me. Of course we all have our Thai hooker, fetish on the side.
Now back to the topic, those same gals that some of our expats are doing for free, have their own motivations (motives such as to perhaps to get out of LOS, or may the Thai Media's fascination with half falang babies, or it could be a thai/farang rebound) These Thai Nymphs perhaps have ten other Expat farangs they do on the side;. More hooks in water to get out of their lot.
I find it amusing, for the expat farangs on this board to think, they are special. It's just a market of flesh, buying and selling. Demand and supply in the carnival of flesh. You all sponsor them and your selves in your own way.
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint]When you say 'respect from any Thai is a daunting task,' what are you basing this on?[/QUOTE]I think it's a fair statement as regards tourists, especially sex tourists. But then tourists really don't need the respect of locals, so it's not that big a deal.
If you live and work here, then respect from your colleagues isn't an option -- it's a necessity. Like you, I haven't found it hard to earn. And if you can't earn it on merit, then money, power, and age will generally do it.
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]And your opinion is absolutely correct.... GE[/QUOTE]Come on GE. Of course the two week millionaires are always fun to laugh at but when you travel and live in the region and a working girl you've known and fucked and enjoy asks you for the equivalent of 100 USD to help for whatever reason what's wrong with giving it?
I'll flush that 100 bucks as usually it comes back to me in terms of performance, freebies, on call duties, introduction of friends, being first customer of new girls, "special" services not normally offered etc. So I look at it as an investment.
I guess some folks think giving a girl 2,000 baht or 3,000 baht to be sponsoring. And to me that's not sponsoring that's flushing with hopes of it being an investment to be paid back later. And if it is not paid back in full later by services rendered then I'm not sorry to see that 100 bucks to go bye bye.
I'll just say there is a difference between fronting a few baht or peso and full time monthly remittances IMHO. Just remember whatever you give a girl say good bye to it without ever expecting to see it or services again. If you can give the money without harming yourself or your family and feeling OK about flushing it then so what.
Overall, my track record on the 100 USD equivalent fronting of funds in peso and baht, my investment record is pretty damn good.
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My Lucky
Years ago, I ran across a Lao woman dancing in a gogo in Patpong. I was staying in a local hotel while working in Bangkok. I would walk through the Patpong every night for something to do. I saw her and realized she was really out of place. She was very skinny and not good looking. She was never going to make any money. We talked and I found she just started her career working the bars. She had kids and parents to support, much like nearly every girl working the bars in Thailand.
I would often stop to see her and slip her a hundred baht. Our agreement was that she would sit with me and keep the buy-me-drink girls away while I watched the dancers. She got the cash and I avoided buying worthless drinks for a woman who really needed cash. One woman at the bar asked why I did it. I just said she is my lucky. She understood.
I often buy a meal for a girl or slip her a few baht for her time sitting with me. It is a good thing to do for someone who is living as a prostitute in a situation most of us could never imagine our daughters in. I think it gets me more merit than the Thais who make breakfast for the monks that I often see in Pantit buying MP3s for their Ipods. Try it some time. You may be surprised that you like it.
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anyone knows how much the russian "euporeans" girls are charging on walking st? there a couple of bars there and i peeked in, but was with my gf so didnt have the opp to inquiry.
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Pattaya assessment based on my April 2010 trip
-i do prefer 18. 22 y/o tanned/brown spinners ideally < 100 lbs, < 5 ft 3 in (< 46 kg, < 160 cm) with natural be cups and long, unhighlighted/uncolored hair, who haven't had any kids.
-i love the go-gos mostly because of their lack of clothing. i like them in the shower or doing the jacuzzi thing, but i'm not interested in the 22:00ish shows or sleazy stuff.
1) a-go-gos
a) superbaby. open 20:00. 03:00,
pros: hottest girls
cons: expensive, you have to pay the total cost to the waitress/mamasan before pulling the escort (bar fine + st or lt prices which are non-negotiable), escorts will do a bj only with a condom on (so of course there's no cim)
b) supergirl. open 20:00. 03:00
pros: after superbaby it has the hottest girls; escorts dancing on stage and in the jacuzzi are a little livelier than at superbaby
cons: same as superbaby
misc: superbaby and supergirl have the same owners and caters to japanese clientèle
c) airport. 20:00. 04:00, [url]http://bit. ly/c0ygup[/url]
pros: hot airline/stewardess motif and outfits
cons: expensive, heineken draft is baht 85 ($3)
misc: superbaby+supergirl+airport are my top three favorite go-gos
d) peppermint. closes at 03:00 (or is it 04:00?)
pros: biggest(?) collection of escorts, baht 59 ($2) draft beer happy hour
cons: in april 2010 there were few hot girls
e) beach. closes at 04:00
pros: baht 59 ($2) draft beer happy hour
cons: in april 2010 there were few hot girls
f) baccara
pros: baht 59 ($2) draft beer happy hour, easy chair around the stage are most comfortable client seats in any pattaya go-go
cons: no comment
misc: baccara, angelwitch, beer garden, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] (bj specialty) and devil's den (threesome specialty) all have branches in bangkok
g) what's up playgirl
pros: girls swinging over your head using the o-rings dangling from the ceiling
cons: expensive
h) iron
pros: no comment
cons: baht 215 ($7) for a lady drink shot
i) happy
pros: baht 59 ($2) draft beer happy hour
cons: no comment
j) champions
pros: baht 35 ($1) draft beer happy hour
cons: i've never seen a single attractive girl in there
k) beavers
pros: baht 55 ($2) draft beer happy hour
cons: rarely attractive girls inside
l) roxy
pros: baht 65 ($2) bottled chang beer
cons: no comment
m) windmill
pros: baht 45 ($1. 50) draft beer happy hour
cons: too sleazy for me (eg audience members fingerbanging escorts, etc; that stuff should be in a private room)
n) misty's
pros: no comment
cons: too sleazy for me (escorts with strap ons screwing each other, etc)
o) tramps, utopia
pros: cheap draft beer happy hour
cons: both go-gos had few girls, all of them unappealing
p) angelwitch
pros: they have the best shows, one part involving a boa constrictor
cons: expensive
2) discos aka dance clubs
pros: good for picking up freelancers/amateurs; no escorts asking you to buy them a lady drink
cons: they tend to have expensive drinks; bathroom attendants are irritating (trying to massage you/crack your back, etc, while you're using the urinal or sink, then expecting a baht 20+ tip)
misc: soi 6 closes at 01:00 and the go-gos are closed by 03:00 or 04:00, so whenever the escorts get off work some will migrate to the discos
a) candyshop
pros: dj+live band playing pop music, good lighting to see what the girls look like
cons: no comment
b) tony's
pros: place looks nice
cons: clientele always seems shady to me so i avoid tony's
c) lucifer's
pros: huge; front 1/3 has a live band and rear 2/3 has a large dance club
cons: dark so tough to see what the girls look like
d) marine
pros: large dance floor
cons: no comment
misc: recommend going here around 01:00. 03:00
e) insomnia
pros: they have hired dancers to dance on the go-go stages; i think they have the cheapest drinks of all the discos; open until around 08:00
cons: cramped
misc: recommend going here after you're done with marine disco
3) misc
a) pattaya beer garden
pros: nice location over the water, fairly good food at reasonable prices
cons: available freelancers there never seem hot and are unwilling to go st 500 or lt 1, 000
b) dream teen pattaya massage. [url]www.dream-teen-massage.com[/url]
pros: good massage
cons: difficult to locate (it's directly east of siam bayview hotel/central festival), girls were ok looking
misc: pim, my masseuse, was 23 y/o with one kid; she kept her clothes on even when showering me; during the "ball massage" portion she offered a hand job if i would tip her baht 500 ($16), bj for baht 1, 000 ($32) and bj+intercourse for baht 1, 500 ($48), amount of tip for each service was negotiable
c) [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. bj specialty, [url]www.lolitaspattaya.com[/url]
pros: opens at 10:00, free pick-up service
cons: girls ok looking
d) soi 6 businesses. open 13:00. 01:00, st specialty
pros: total cost of baht 800 ($25) or baht 1, 000 ($32) for full service from escort and use of the st room upstairs (= baht 300 to bar for the barfine and use of the st room + baht 500 or baht 700 to the escort)
cons: no comment
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]Once again I don't care...
... I find it amusing, for the expat farangs on this board to think, they are special. It's just a market of flesh, buying and selling. Demand and supply in the carnival of flesh. You all sponsor them and your selves in your own way.[/QUOTE]
We still don't know why you haven't posted a single report for almost 7 years. Read again the end of this post: [post]1011925[/post]
I don't understand what you really want to know with your first post ever in these forums. As it seems, reading your second and third posts, you are not really seeking any "battlefield" intelligence or advice. But your contributions are more and more "trollish", at least, to my eyes.
Anyway, this discussion might interest other members, but IMHO, it really should take place in another thread: [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1036"]this one[/url], if you really require our opinions and advice about your Thai girlfriend, or [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3065"]this other thread[/url], if you want to discuss about the mores of the local expatriates in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]Once again I don't care, I don't want any respect from a Thai hooker, it's all about money with these girls. A PHD. Psychologist, once told me, "that not a single human action is done without motivation."
Even the posts here including our mongering fraternity and sharing of intel, is to prevent price inflation, and to share the efficient access to the tasty female Thai flesh. All selfish reasons for every single individual reader/member.
My sponsorship of 6000-9000-10,000+ bht per month (depending on my mood), itself is a form of entertainment and perhaps a form of control over these women. I make her do things with her life, usually for the better. Now for free pussy & respect, If I put my life on hold to live in Thailand (ie. Not fight the west's economic jungle). I would probably pay nothing for the pussy, and I would probably screw some girls for free.
Bending some hookers mind to give it up for free is not too difficult. I am neither fat, old, short or bald. A many 25 year old pretty and financially independent*keyword* females, regularly chase me. Of course we all have our Thai hooker, fetish on the side.
Now back to the topic, those same gals that some of our expats are doing for free, have their own motivations (motives such as to perhaps to get out of LOS, or may the Thai Media's fascination with half falang babies, or it could be a thai/farang rebound) These Thai Nymphs perhaps have ten other Expat farangs they do on the side;. More hooks in water to get out of their lot.
I find it amusing, for the expat farangs on this board to think, they are special. It's just a market of flesh, buying and selling. Demand and supply in the carnival of flesh. You all sponsor them and your selves in your own way.[/QUOTE]I have been on both sides of the fence. Both times I have felt comfortable and uncomfortable.
Sponsoring. Comfortable with sending money but, uncomfortable when, sometimes, she called the next day to say she had spent it.
Ex-Pat Living in Thailand. For me, there is nothing worse that being in bed with a girl and the phone rings. If it is a sponsor she will be running into the bathroom, upstairs, downstairs or outside. If it is her Thai husband/boyfriend again she will seek somewhere private. For me this is uncomfortable. I usually leave.
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]...I find it amusing, for the expat farangs on this board to think, they are special. It's just a market of flesh, buying and selling. Demand and supply in the carnival of flesh. You all sponsor them and your selves in your own way.[/QUOTE]
It is amusing, isn't it? And greatly entertaining too! We all do what we want. If it's sponsoring Thai girls to control them from afar ... what ever turns you on.
In my long productive life, I've never felt particularly special until I came here to the Land of Smiles ... now on a daily basis I have a variety of pretty young girls calling me; begging for the privilege of selling their pristine flesh to me; and satisfying my lust for a pittance. They treat me like a king. I give them a little money.
You're right ... it's a carnival of flesh... It's paradise on earth, my friend.
I feel special!
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Motivation
[QUOTE=InventionGuy] A PHD. Psychologist, once told me, "that not a single human action is done without motivation."[/QUOTE]Really? a "PHD" Psychologist figured it out all by himself?
Last night, while sleeping, I continued the action of breathing, but I'm not sure what my motivation was. Oh, and my heart kept beating too.
But I'm sure what he meant was: "volitional action". But you don't need to be a "PHD" psychologist to know this. In fact, it is true by definition. It is also true for all sentient beings.
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[quote=andybkk]anyone knows how much the russian "euporeans" girls are charging on walking st? there a couple of bars there and i peeked in, but was with my gf so didnt have the opp to inquiry.[/quote]
just ask them! they will not kill you, just maybe ignore you. can't say that the "russian girls" whose stroll up and down walking street are hot to me. infact they are not russian, but usbeks, kazaks and the like. nevertheless ones i asked one of those ladies, how much they charge, just out of couriosity. if i remember right it was 1000 for st.
there are some pretty russian tourists sometimes at the clubs "insomnia, marine disco and the other club at end of walking street (i forgot the name). they might go for free if they like you. maybe they are also for sale, but i don't know the price...
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint]For me, there is nothing worse that being in bed with a girl and the phone rings. If it is a sponsor she will be running into the bathroom, upstairs, downstairs or outside.[/QUOTE]Stick around. Eventually she'll just answer it with you right there. Then the next step is to lick her pussy while she's on the line. Seriously.
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[QUOTE=Betong]... Then the next step is to lick her pussy while she's on the line. Seriously.[/QUOTE]
Even more fun: just (gently) sodomize her! (been there, done that!)
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"Russian" girls.
[quote=andybkk]anyone knows how much the russian "euporeans" girls are charging on walking st? there a couple of bars there and i peeked in, but was with my gf so didnt have the opp to inquiry.[/quote]
late last year i had a “russian” in pattaya. (i actually think that she was uzbek or kazak.)
found her during the day sitting, alone, on beach rd.
she told me that it was her 1st time in thailand although she had “worked” in dubai before and that had not been so lucky with customers in thailand.
offered me short time at my hotel for 2000 baht! i responded by telling her that i would give her the same “happy hour” rate as i gave to the thai beach rd girls. 500 baht!
initially she said no but after i explained that she could either come with me and earn some money or spend the rest of the afternoon sitting and waiting she seemed to warm to the idea.
she spoke reasonable english so after i had bought her a coffee and had a chat to convince her that i was a “nice guy” she agreed and ended up staying with me for around 2.1/2 hours.
most enjoyable and excellent service.
i remember her bbbj well. (it was the best no hands bj that i have ever had!!!)
give it a try,
hotman.
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Pattaya Trip - Part 2
sorry for the long delay between parts 1 and 2. my musings have been interrupted by a number of events, including volcanic ash and its effects on mrs k2k's travel plans.
day 3
i was greeted by a freelancer on beach road at 11am as i headed to my usual deck chair on pattaya beach. she didn't particularly interest me, but i was tempted purely because of the time of day. i decided to decline the offer and spent a pleasant day on the beach.
i was leaving the beach at about 6pm when i spotted nok. turned out to be 36 but looked 26 to my untrained eyes. we agreed 1000 baht for all night and headed back to pasadena lodge. she provided a decent bbbj and sex in a few positions before i finished doggy style. she then promptly fell asleep (i thought that was my privilege after a good shag). i let her sleep until 9pm when i was more than ready for round 2. i was just waking her up when her phone rang and, you guessed it, she had to go. she was off to bangkok to see the "big buddha" and her friends were leaving in half an hour. did i want to come? yes, i did, but not in the way she meant so i gave her 500 baht and wished her well. she took my phone number and promised she would call the next night, but i didn't think i would be seeing her again.
i did think about going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for round 2, but i noticed on the way back to the hotel that none of the girls were in uniform. this just did not seem right somehow, so i had an early night without any more fun.
day 4
i had read about the post-breakfast bj at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] from another poster, and decided i had to give it a go, especially as i had missed out the previous night. so, even though the girls were still not in uniform i picked the best looking one from outside and took her upstairs. the magic incantation "do it how i like and i pay you 1, 000 baht" worked just as well with this girl as with the last one. she gave an exellent, unrushed bbbj/cim service and earned her money. on the way back down the stairs we were met by another punter and girl on their way up. i am not sure of the etiquette in these situations (i would be grateful for suggestions from the experienced members of the forum) but settled on looking the other way, until they had passed us.
after another day on the beach i actually received a call from nok. with the poor quality phone signal and the quality of nok's english it was difficult to glean any information from the call. but it did raise my expectation that i might be seeing her again. then she called later and said that she would be at the hotel at 9pm and, amazingly, arrived only 10 minutes late. this time she did stay the whole night and earned her 1000 baht with three rounds, each just as good as the night before.
day 5
in the search for variety i had to try a pattaya soapy. so in the afternoon i headed over to sabai rooms, a big white building on second road at the northern end of pattaya. i picked a little cutie who was numbered 129 and had a nice smile. i had high hopes for this encounter which, at 1, 800 baht, was my most expensive to date.
unfortunately the experience was hugely disappointing. the only purpose of the bath appeared to be to ensure that i was clean, with no attempt at stimulation at all. the body to body massage involved her rubbing my back with her front. when i turned over she gave me a towel and indicated that we would resume on the bed. when she joined me on the bed she immediately decided to put a condom on me, even though i was only semi-erect. i indicated that a little manual stimulation was required but she ignored this until she had got the condom on. i suppose her ability to perform this trick was the most interesting part of the entire service.
she then climbed on top of me and tried to mount me cow girl style which was impossible due to my under-aroused state. i persuaded her to get off and give me a hand job instead, which she did, but she insisted the condom stayed on. it took a great deal of mental effort on my part but i did manage to pop after a long time. when i paid her the agreed amount she said "you have tip for me? ". well, of course i did, the tip was "find yourself a job in another industry". i just answered no, which did not seem to surprise her.
k2k
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40th bday party
Hi all
Calling on creative minds -- for fun ideas!
Despite all that's going on in Bangkok, I'm heavily considering going to Pattaya next month. I will have a difficult time however convincing friends to join me on this one (more risk averse than I am).
Anyhoo, I'd like to get ideas for a 40th bday celebration (or multiple ones). I'll likely stay in a villa with a private pool, so that could factor in. Budget not a concern.
The key for me is that I'm aiming for something totally original from my prior (10 or so) trips in Thailand (plus hundreds of big nights in China, Japan, etc.). I'm thinking day/night with a group of gals at my villa, and perhaps one big night at a bar. Suggestions? Activities? Experiences outside the usual "go to a go-go/beer bar/etc and picked up a girl for the night" that might be good for this kind of thing? I'm open to ANY ideas.
Asking for fun creative input. Hoping that we can share ideas, and I'll share as well.
Thanks in advance.
-B-
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[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Anyhoo, I'd like to get ideas for a 40th bday celebration (or multiple ones). I'll likely stay in a villa with a private pool, so that could factor in. Budget not a concern. [/QUOTE]
I know Secrets Hotel has a villa with pool. Never tried it myself though.
[url]http://www.secretspattaya.com/villa/[/url]
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5th floor of Penthouse Hotel
Depending on how many guys you have got you could take some or all of the rooms on the 5th floor of the Penthouse hotel . Most of the Party rooms have two double beds sex swings double jazuzzis etc etc I think they will alos let you have a private party in the swimming pool. I know 2 guys did their 50th birthday there with 15 girls.
[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Hi all
Calling on creative minds -- for fun ideas!
Despite all that's going on in Bangkok, I'm heavily considering going to Pattaya next month. I will have a difficult time however convincing friends to join me on this one (more risk averse than I am).
Anyhoo, I'd like to get ideas for a 40th bday celebration (or multiple ones). I'll likely stay in a villa with a private pool, so that could factor in. Budget not a concern.
The key for me is that I'm aiming for something totally original from my prior (10 or so) trips in Thailand (plus hundreds of big nights in China, Japan, etc.). I'm thinking day/night with a group of gals at my villa, and perhaps one big night at a bar. Suggestions? Activities? Experiences outside the usual "go to a go-go/beer bar/etc and picked up a girl for the night" that might be good for this kind of thing? I'm open to ANY ideas.
Asking for fun creative input. Hoping that we can share ideas, and I'll share as well.
Thanks in advance.
-B-[/QUOTE]
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[quote=andybkk]anyone knows how much the russian "euporeans" girls are charging on walking st? there a couple of bars there and i peeked in, but was with my gf so didnt have the opp to inquiry.[/quote]
i got quoted 800 bht st from a petite 30+ russian.
i really think it depends on who you are and your manner. no offence to anyone but if you're indian or arab i think you'll be shelling out 2k but of course this depends on the girl herself.
maybe it better to try the subway place on sukhimvit in bkk.
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[QUOTE=Kermit2048]On the way back down the stairs we were met by another punter and girl on their way up. I am not sure of the etiquette in these situations (I would be grateful for suggestions from the experienced members of the forum) but settled on looking the other way, until they had passed us.[/QUOTE]
You're two men with similar interest crossing paths in the same establishment, in close quarters. I'd say at least a basic greeting or acknowledgment would be in order. I've been in this situation on a few occasions and exchanged the standard verbal greeting or head nod acknowledgement with the other punter while reviewing his selection as I’m sure he was taking a look at mine. Some girls are real playful and sometimes will make casual comments or smile/grin to lighten the mood.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]You're two men with similar interest crossing paths in the same establishment, in close quarters. I'd say at least a basic greeting or acknowledgment would be in order. I've been in this situation on a few occasions and exchanged the standard verbal greeting or head nod acknowledgement with the other punter while reviewing his selection as I’m sure he was taking a look at mine. Some girls are real playful and sometimes will make casual comments or smile/grin to lighten the mood.[/QUOTE]Agree, this happens to me on soi 6 all the time. And usually the punter is with a girl I've already had. Hell we've even walked into a room they were just leaving at times. We just smile and nod or discuss / rate the performances. Actually, a few times the punter and I have ended up crossing paths again, hoisting a few and compared notes.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
I'll flush that 100 bucks as usually it comes back to me in terms of performance, freebies, on call duties, introduction of friends, being first customer of new girls, "special" services not normally offered etc. So I look at it as an investment.
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Can you elaborate on this a bit? This sounds interesting.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Can you elaborate on this a bit? This sounds interesting.[/QUOTE]Not that hard of a concept really but one that goes against what most mongers do and one I'll get flamed for but we all have our own styles.
First I don't give money to girls I just meet or just know so it's not like I'm throwing money to every tramp that walks by. Second its not every day I'm donating 100 USD. But I travel to PI, BKK and recently Chonburi often so I get known at certain places and get known by a decent amount of girls.
If a girl is in a pinch and need some cash I don't mind fronting 1. 3 K baht (or a couple thousand peso) to them. Usually in return they will come over when I call them, come before work or after work to my room saving me bar fines, service me for no pay later to pay off their debt at a reduced rate (2 for 1), bring over or introduce a new girl to me (fresh meat on the market), do a three some or offer up anal, video, pictures, etc. To me when they don't do with most others. But they are girls I've been with before and from places that know me well.
Say for example I go to Walking Street and I pick up a girl and she pulls a "I only want short time BS to me after we start". Or I nail her two times and she wants to run for the hills and take just taxi money to get the hell away from me (has been known to happen), so I got some names and numbers of girls to come over at 3 am who know what I like and what to do and will show up without any fuss or muss. Or say I want to tap something at 9 or 10 am (pretty hard to find quality at that hour in Pattay atleast for me) so I can just send some text messages and get one to come over easily.
I also do not mind buying up some vendor food for ladies waiting their turn for a handsum man to pick them even if I'm not going to nail them that day. I also usually will buy a Black Label or some bottle for the girls at the bars I normally go to for the girls to drink up the day or two before I leave (1,000 baht for a bottle per each bar, big deal). I like having a big rolodex of girls to call on in various parts of the world for the "worst case scenerio's" etc. This has served me well over the years. Plus the word on what I like, how I like it usually spreads very fast around the bars I frequent.
So for me to front up some cash it's not a big deal and the ROI (return on investments) usually come back double what I put out. True and of course I've had some investments that did not pan out but I'm equal or above in most things. I do better at this investment then the stock market.
Recent examples. A girl gets a new apartment (7,000 baht a month), is studying english (4 K a month), and is taking care of family in Isaan (15 K a month). She can't make rent she says. She has no sponsor. She asks for some cash to help that month due to fewer customers. I front some cash, 4,000 baht. She says she will open up her apartment to me to stay there (soi AR). Can bring girls with me and / or she will bring girls to join us. Normally or lately I've stayed at a serviced apartment where a 1 bedroom apartment is 800 baht a night on Soi AR. So now at worst case, I get a fall back apartment to take girls to, and or I get her and a friend of hers and other favors, or just stay with her as she and her friends know I'm a major whatre.
How do I know this will come true? Because when she lived on Naklur (spelling?) Soi 27 I had her old room key and nailed her room mates for free (Feb 2010). She would stay in my apartment, I'd wake up motorbike to her room and nail her room mates. I paid their rent that month, 4 K, and I got free access to their room and between the legs of the room mates (yes even a few times while they were talking on the phone to their sponsors.) for two plus weeks (18 days).
Another example. Girl needs to sell her home, she already owes me money, she asked for a few more baht. I did, and she did sell her home and she put the money in my K bank account. This is a girl who brought me 3 girls to BKK (including her younger sister) to stay at GP with me and did everything we could imagine. But before I give a girl 100 bucks I know them and start with small funds and see how the performance and such is. But for 3,000 baht (100 USD) investment now and then it can pay you back in spades.
HOWEVER. I'm not a two week wonder, I repeat, my stays are 2 to 3 weeks long every visit and I am there often. The bar owners and mamsan's know me. If a girl royally screws me over she knows I know her bosses. And I generally run things past the mamasan / owners in the bars in PI and Thai first to see which girls are full of bolabola / Ko hok. And it is surprising how much the other bar girls talk about their co workers (and about girls from other bars) so it's easy to figure out who to deal with.
We all got our own style, but I'll invest in certain bars and it has served me well. When one girl goes out of circulation (sponsored or her sponsor is in town) I get her new number, she still sees me on the side, and she also recommends replacements or temp girls to fill in for them when they just can't meet up.
I'm not making merit. I look at it as investment in getting proper services on demand.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Can you elaborate on this a bit? This sounds interesting.[/QUOTE]Based on the writing of his many previous post and of course I don't want to speak forTansak KTV, but I believe what he means is that if he invest (flush 100 bucks) which is 3200 baht, in the future when she LT the same girl he gets his investment back with maybe 5 shots, 3 holes, back rub, foot massage, his shirts and socks wash and ironed for him. From what I heard some of them even play Mammasan and find him Nyphos so that he sometimes don't leave his room for days?
Just a Theory of course, LBM
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]You're two men with similar interest crossing paths in the same establishment, in close quarters. I'd say at least a basic greeting or acknowledgment would be in order. I've been in this situation on a few occasions and exchanged the standard verbal greeting or head nod acknowledgement with the other punter while reviewing his selection as I’m sure he was taking a look at mine. Some girls are real playful and sometimes will make casual comments or smile/grin to lighten the mood.[/QUOTE]
Heck, you might as well acknowledge each other - after all, if one of you had shown up 15 minutes later, for all you know, you'd be dipping into the earlier guy's cum residue.
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...Say for example I go to Walking Street and I pick up a girl and she pulls a "I only want short time BS to me after we start". Or I nail her two times and she wants to run for the hills and take just taxi money to get the hell away from me (has been known to happen)...[/QUOTE]
After Tansak KTV is through with them, they don't want money ... only a chance to escape ...
[QUOTE]... I'd wake up motorbike to her room and nail her room mates...[/QUOTE]
I might use a dildo from time to time ... but a motorbike??? No wonder these girls are afraid of you, Tansak. :D
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[QUOTE=Kermit2048]Day 1
Feeling quite tired after a 12 hour flight I decided that a massage might relieve the aching muscles. I found a parlour after about a 5 minute walk from the hotel. Actually, this is not true. Several parlours found me, almost as soon as I left the hotel. If there are health-giving benefits to having a massage then you might think that residents of Pattaya would be among the healthiest on the planet.
Not wishing to fall into the first parlour I encountered I chose to do a little reconnaissance of the neighbourhood to try and determine which would offer me the best service. After seeing about a dozen, I concluded that there was nothing obvious that I could use to differentiate between the offerings. The one I eventually chose (sorry, I can't remember the name or location) only stood out because it seemed to be the cheapest. 199 baht for one hour oil service, while the prevailing rate seems to be 250-300. I didn't choose it because of the price, but because I was attracted by one of the ladies outside. Just my luck, she was not working there, just visiting her friend, who was significantly less visually appealing. I guess I should have walked at this point, but by this stage I was well and truly ready for my massage and decided to stay.
I started with a very welcome shower. I needed this, even though I'd had one just before I left the hotel. Then it was on to the mattress on the floor for the massage. I found it a little disappointing, because it was a reasonable massage but with no attention to the genital area. Just as I was seriously wondering whether the lady was into special services or not, she grabbed me quite firmly and asked what would I like. We agreed 1, 000 baht for a blow job and also to cover the 199 baht for the massage, or so I thought. She did a decent BBBJ followed by CIM and I was a happy man. Then she finished up the time with a bit more massage and I paid her the agreed amount. On the way out the cashier stops me and asks for the 200 for the massage. I point to the masseuse to indicate that she has it, but all she says is "you pay, you pay". This I did, grudgingly, and then left feeling decidedly ripped off. Leaves a rather nasty taste in the mouth, as the masseuse might have said (sorry, couldn't resist it)[/quote]Yes. I know what you mean about the attractive girl pulling you into the massage parlour only to disappear into thin air and, be replaced by a not so attractive girl. This has happened to me so many times in soi BJ and, many other places. I go there for a decent BBBJ and CIM but, I like to have a little bit of a play with the girl doing it. Can't do that if she is not attractive. Now, when they try the switch I walk out. I try not to make it obvious. I get on the phone. Say, yes, yes, yes and I go now. I tell them this is my wife. I speak to them in Thai but, until you learn Thai, they will understand the English version.
I know a Belgium guy who used to run a bar near your hotel. He always said that he could get the BBBJ and CIM for 500 Baht all in. I never have.
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Saint Mint Report Starts at Yes. I know.
[QUOTE=Saint Mint][QUOTE=Kermit2048]Day 1
Feeling quite tired after a 12 hour flight I decided that a massage might relieve the aching muscles. I found a parlour after about a 5 minute walk from the hotel. Actually, this is not true. Several parlours found me, almost as soon as I left the hotel. If there are health-giving benefits to having a massage then you might think that residents of Pattaya would be among the healthiest on the planet.
Not wishing to fall into the first parlour I encountered I chose to do a little reconnaissance of the neighbourhood to try and determine which would offer me the best service. After seeing about a dozen, I concluded that there was nothing obvious that I could use to differentiate between the offerings. The one I eventually chose (sorry, I can't remember the name or location) only stood out because it seemed to be the cheapest. 199 baht for one hour oil service, while the prevailing rate seems to be 250-300. I didn't choose it because of the price, but because I was attracted by one of the ladies outside. Just my luck, she was not working there, just visiting her friend, who was significantly less visually appealing. I guess I should have walked at this point, but by this stage I was well and truly ready for my massage and decided to stay.
I started with a very welcome shower. I needed this, even though I'd had one just before I left the hotel. Then it was on to the mattress on the floor for the massage. I found it a little disappointing, because it was a reasonable massage but with no attention to the genital area. Just as I was seriously wondering whether the lady was into special services or not, she grabbed me quite firmly and asked what would I like. We agreed 1, 000 baht for a blow job and also to cover the 199 baht for the massage, or so I thought. She did a decent BBBJ followed by CIM and I was a happy man. Then she finished up the time with a bit more massage and I paid her the agreed amount. On the way out the cashier stops me and asks for the 200 for the massage. I point to the masseuse to indicate that she has it, but all she says is "you pay, you pay". This I did, grudgingly, and then left feeling decidedly ripped off. Leaves a rather nasty taste in the mouth, as the masseuse might have said (sorry, couldn't resist it),
Yes. I know what you mean about the attractive girl pulling you into the massage parlour only to disappear into thin air and, be replaced by a not so attractive girl. This has happened to me so many times in soi BJ and, many other places. I go there for a decent BBBJ and CIM but, I like to have a little bit of a play with the girl doing it. Can't do that if she is not attractive. Now, when they try the switch I walk out. I try not to make it obvious. I get on the phone. Say, yes, yes, yes and I go now. I tell them this is my wife. I speak to them in Thai but, until you learn Thai, they will understand the English version.
I know a Belgium guy who used to run a bar near your hotel. He always said that he could get the BBBJ and CIM for 500 Baht all in. I never have.[/QUOTE]Everybody - Please note the Saint Mint report starts from Yes. I know. The 4th paragraph. The first section of the report is from Kermit 2048. I must have messed up again!! Sorry. A mistake. I didn't mean it to look this way.
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Beer in Pattaya...
arrived in pattaya last night for the simple reason that my company deemed bangkok to be unsafe.
came in quite late so decided to just grab something to eat at the beer bars around soi 8 and then see what [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] had to offer. swung by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url], perhaps around midnight, but the girls were not in uniform and something just felt off on the whole thing so passed on that and ventured down to visit and old friend on soi postoffice.
unfortunately her auntie flo was visiting so had to settle for something more "oral" than anticipated, no sweat though, she is a hard worker and proud of what she does.
on a side note, since i just happened to end up here i am all alone and would be fun to meet other mongers for a night of debauchery, anyone up for a beer or two send me a pm to set up.
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100% agree
In addition, a comment -- we all have our own way of enjoying the fantasy. Ultimately that's what it all comes down to, I suppose. I personally have tried being cheap (I'm just not that good at it, and tend to get horrible experiences), been mostly slightly generous, and at times been insanely generous. The middle one has worked out best for me, but it would be presumptuous at best to extrapolate that and conclude that everyone should follow that path. Different strokes for different folks.
One thing, which is very controversial here, is that I actually enjoy when I see people flashing big money. I recall when I was young and poor watching with envy when others did it (thousands or tens of thousands of USD), and more selfishly I thought they rev'd up the scene for me - and I exploited the shit out of that! I was in America at the time and the pussy wasn't cheap to begin with. Why people complain about BSD's ruining the market here is totally beyond me, since we with money are actually helping those with more limited funds create a vibrant and plentiful market. And hey, I'm not gonna spend USD 10,000 on a pussy in Pattaya (or even probably 1000)...but if I did it only would create the illusion among the other girls that that is possible, which helps everyone, even those with tighter budgets.
So go for it man -- flash money! It's not only your prerogative and your right, and in our experience provides options we wouldn't have otherwise (therefore really in our own interest), it actually helps the entire scene!
Cheers,
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Not that hard of a concept really but one that goes against what most mongers do and one I'll get flamed for but we all have our own styles.
First I don't give money to girls I just meet or just know so it's not like I'm throwing money to every tramp that walks by. Second its not every day I'm donating 100 USD. But I travel to PI, BKK and recently Chonburi often so I get known at certain places and get known by a decent amount of girls.
If a girl is in a pinch and need some cash I don't mind fronting 1. 3 K baht (or a couple thousand peso) to them. Usually in return they will come over when I call them, come before work or after work to my room saving me bar fines, service me for no pay later to pay off their debt at a reduced rate (2 for 1), bring over or introduce a new girl to me (fresh meat on the market), do a three some or offer up anal, video, pictures, etc. To me when they don't do with most others. But they are girls I've been with before and from places that know me well.
Say for example I go to Walking Street and I pick up a girl and she pulls a "I only want short time BS to me after we start". Or I nail her two times and she wants to run for the hills and take just taxi money to get the hell away from me (has been known to happen), so I got some names and numbers of girls to come over at 3 am who know what I like and what to do and will show up without any fuss or muss. Or say I want to tap something at 9 or 10 am (pretty hard to find quality at that hour in Pattay atleast for me) so I can just send some text messages and get one to come over easily.
I also do not mind buying up some vendor food for ladies waiting their turn for a handsum man to pick them even if I'm not going to nail them that day. I also usually will buy a Black Label or some bottle for the girls at the bars I normally go to for the girls to drink up the day or two before I leave (1,000 baht for a bottle per each bar, big deal). I like having a big rolodex of girls to call on in various parts of the world for the "worst case scenerio's" etc. This has served me well over the years. Plus the word on what I like, how I like it usually spreads very fast around the bars I frequent.
So for me to front up some cash it's not a big deal and the ROI (return on investments) usually come back double what I put out. True and of course I've had some investments that did not pan out but I'm equal or above in most things. I do better at this investment then the stock market.
Recent examples. A girl gets a new apartment (7,000 baht a month), is studying english (4 K a month), and is taking care of family in Isaan (15 K a month). She can't make rent she says. She has no sponsor. She asks for some cash to help that month due to fewer customers. I front some cash, 4,000 baht. She says she will open up her apartment to me to stay there (soi AR). Can bring girls with me and / or she will bring girls to join us. Normally or lately I've stayed at a serviced apartment where a 1 bedroom apartment is 800 baht a night on Soi AR. So now at worst case, I get a fall back apartment to take girls to, and or I get her and a friend of hers and other favors, or just stay with her as she and her friends know I'm a major whatre.
How do I know this will come true? Because when she lived on Naklur (spelling?) Soi 27 I had her old room key and nailed her room mates for free (Feb 2010). She would stay in my apartment, I'd wake up motorbike to her room and nail her room mates. I paid their rent that month, 4 K, and I got free access to their room and between the legs of the room mates (yes even a few times while they were talking on the phone to their sponsors.) for two plus weeks (18 days).
Another example. Girl needs to sell her home, she already owes me money, she asked for a few more baht. I did, and she did sell her home and she put the money in my K bank account. This is a girl who brought me 3 girls to BKK (including her younger sister) to stay at GP with me and did everything we could imagine. But before I give a girl 100 bucks I know them and start with small funds and see how the performance and such is. But for 3,000 baht (100 USD) investment now and then it can pay you back in spades.
HOWEVER. I'm not a two week wonder, I repeat, my stays are 2 to 3 weeks long every visit and I am there often. The bar owners and mamsan's know me. If a girl royally screws me over she knows I know her bosses. And I generally run things past the mamasan / owners in the bars in PI and Thai first to see which girls are full of bolabola / Ko hok. And it is surprising how much the other bar girls talk about their co workers (and about girls from other bars) so it's easy to figure out who to deal with.
We all got our own style, but I'll invest in certain bars and it has served me well. When one girl goes out of circulation (sponsored or her sponsor is in town) I get her new number, she still sees me on the side, and she also recommends replacements or temp girls to fill in for them when they just can't meet up.
I'm not making merit. I look at it as investment in getting proper services on demand.
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penthouse
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Depending on how many guys you have got you could take some or all of the rooms on the 5th floor of the Penthouse hotel . Most of the Party rooms have two double beds sex swings double jazuzzis etc etc I think they will alos let you have a private party in the swimming pool. I know 2 guys did their 50th birthday there with 15 girls.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, but I won't be staying there again. Very cool place, but horrible, horrible service and extreme attitude problems. Who wants to pay to be patronized and insulted by petulant morons? Or sleep with termites and other bugs? Vault is much better as the owner is a very good guy, and the stripper poles are great fun and the girls love them.
But for this trip, I'm gonna be in a villa with a pool. I'm imagining lots of girls in bikinis around said pool. Maybe the imagination is even better than the reality!
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Akane massage in Pattaya?
Hi guys,
I'll be in Pattaya for a few days in July and am wondering wether there is massage place similar to Akane massage in Bangkok?
Thanks in advance. BB
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[QUOTE=Bonzo1]And hey, I'm not gonna spend USD 10,000 on a pussy in Pattaya (or even probably 1000)...but if I did it only would create the illusion among the other girls that that is possible, which helps everyone, even those with tighter budgets.
So go for it man -- flash money! It's not only your prerogative and your right, and in our experience provides options we wouldn't have otherwise (therefore really in our own interest), it actually helps the entire scene! [/QUOTE]
What?
You think if a guy pays $1000 for a girl, it makes things better for guys with tight budgets?
I can't even understand how your mind came to that conclusion.
It only revs up the scene located within 10cms of the guy throwing money around. Everywhere else in the bar it creates a vacuum.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]After Tansak KTV is through with them, they don't want money ... only a chance to escape ... :D[/QUOTE]For some girls this is true unfortunately.
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[QUOTE=Amex Spg]-
P) Angelwitch
Pros: they have the best shows, one part involving a boa constrictor
Cons: expensive
B) Tony's
Pros: place looks nice
Cons: clientele always seems shady to me so I avoid Tony's
C) Lucifer's
Pros: huge; front 1/3 has a live band and rear 2/3 has a large dance club
Cons: dark so tough to see what the girls look like
[/QUOTE]Angelwitch,
This is free to get in. Sure, the drinks are more expensive than the bars. You pay extra to watch the great shows.
Tony's. Normally a great selection of girls. You get girls that have finished their day or night job. That could be Pattaya office workers or Pattaya bar workers. You get freelancers and, during Thai holidays and weekends there is the added bonus of Bangkok office girls. Again, free to get in with live shows. Tony is normally on stage doing his thing. Drinks are expensive. I think last time a small Heineken cost me 250 Baht.
Lucifers. The club at the back is normally packed with girls. Again, the same scenario as Tony's with a cross selection of girls. The last time I was there I sat with 4 office workers from Bangkok. They all worked for Isuzu. To me they all looked stunning. It's not that dark. The thing with the office workers, in Pattaya for a long weekend, is that they really like to be shagged. They might only visit Pattaya twice a year and are really up for it. Obviously you have to buy drinks. These drinks will cost more than a normal bar fine but, in most cases, you won't have to pay them.
Con: They might try to get you to put a ring on their finger.
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just a few words
[QUOTE=Evianist]What?
You think if a guy pays $1000 for a girl, it makes things better for guys with tight budgets?
I can't even understand how your mind came to that conclusion.
It only revs up the scene located within 10cms of the guy throwing money around. Everywhere else in the bar it creates a vacuum.[/QUOTE]
...here as this is a very sensitive topic on this forum. The way this works, both in theory and in practice as it is does every single day (Q.E.D.), is that it the market develops to accommodate varying price points. That development brings with it more of everything -- more high budget and more low budget, more sense of opportunity which attracts more girls, etc.
Like real estate, consumer products, and pretty much everything else that is sold in the world, the "luxury" segment plays a very large role in the development of the cheaper segments. Where there is no premium segment, the cheap goods are almost always available only for the truly poor, of very shoddy quality, and not available to or even really known by most of us.
Peace.
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Went to Pattaya over the weekend to escape the shennanigans in BKK. Tried out walking street first - went into several go-gos but the girls seem to want 2000 for ST. Tried Peppermint, Airport...a few others. If I'm going to pay 2000 for ST I might as well go to Baccara or Rainbow 4 in BKK where I can get a real stunner for that price. Escaped over to soi 6 instead - 300 bf + 700 st gets you laid. Sorted.
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[QUOTE=Bonzo1]...here as this is a very sensitive topic on this forum. The way this works, both in theory and in practice as it is does every single day (Q.E.D.), is that it the market develops to accommodate varying price points. That development brings with it more of everything -- more high budget and more low budget, more sense of opportunity which attracts more girls, etc.
Like real estate, consumer products, and pretty much everything else that is sold in the world, the "luxury" segment plays a very large role in the development of the cheaper segments. Where there is no premium segment, the cheap goods are almost always available only for the truly poor, of very shoddy quality, and not available to or even really known by most of us. [/QUOTE]
Your theory doesn't work because you're citing a man who goes into a gogo where the offer price for a girl is say 2000 baht/ST and he gives her 32,000/ST simply because he wants to flash it.
That's the equivalent of shopping for $200,000 homes, finding one you like and then bidding $3.2m just because you feel like throwing some money around. Or paying $500 for a $30 toaster.
Would anyone, even extremely wealthy people, do that? Of course not. It's nonsensical and would benefit no one.
It would be different to go into an extremely high class gogo bar featuring nothing but stunners who provide very high levels of service and paying the offer price of 32,000 baht. That would be the equivalent of the high-end markets for real estate or consumer products.
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]Went to Pattaya over the weekend to escape the shennanigans in BKK. Tried out walking street first - went into several go-gos but the girls seem to want 2000 for ST. Tried Peppermint, Airport...a few others. If I'm going to pay 2000 for ST I might as well go to Baccara or Rainbow 4 in BKK where I can get a real stunner for that price. Escaped over to soi 6 instead - 300 bf + 700 st gets you laid. Sorted.[/QUOTE]That is very true Mangofan but in your own words "to escape the shennanigans in BKK, so not too many choices that is close to BKK, now you did the right thing and Escape to Soi 6.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]Went to Pattaya over the weekend to escape the shennanigans in BKK. Tried out walking street first - went into several go-gos but the girls seem to want 2000 for ST. Tried Peppermint, Airport...a few others. If I'm going to pay 2000 for ST I might as well go to Baccara or Rainbow 4 in BKK where I can get a real stunner for that price. Escaped over to soi 6 instead - 300 bf + 700 st gets you laid. Sorted.[/QUOTE]
Another instance of business is slow so they raise their prices? I was on Walking St in January and got a gogo girl for 2000 for LT in addition to the barfine. Decent service, too.
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[QUOTE=Bonzo1]. . . the market develops to accommodate varying price points. That development brings with it more of everything.[/QUOTE]Finally, someone here who understands economics. I've given up trying to explain how giving a generous tip does not in fact 'ruin the market for all of us', though I am still waiting to hear if getting freebie helps the market for all of us, and if not, then why not.
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[quote=bonzo1]...who wants to pay to be patronized and insulted by petulant morons?[/quote]
i had to comment on this sentence - isn't that what most chaps are doing in pattaya, after all? and certainly those who overpay or visit the higher-end venues.
which brings me to the recent topic of payment and 'the market' - while i do consider over-payers to be foolish characters i don't think they're precisely to blame for the rampant price increase in thailand.
the reason the higher quality girls are more or less unaffordable for most of us nowadays is simply that there is a terrible inadequacy of supply. population growth is nil in thailand, and there are lots of other employment opportunities. even for the minority of girls who prefer the easy money of prostitution to more strenuous toils, there are so many well-off thai men now that they can have the easy money without ever having to put up with the hated farang. again, here i am only talking about the very attractive girls - as we all know thais would never have relations with about 90% of the girls in pattaya, much less pay for it.
in any case, the point is prices have gone up because there simply isn't much of the stuff available, not because a few insecure nincompoops try to impress prostitutes by overpaying.
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[quote=opebo]in any case, the point is prices have gone up because there simply isn't much of the stuff available, not because a few insecure nincompoops try to impress prostitutes by overpaying.[/quote]
most likely true, but that isn't all. first of all there are less supply, since the poverty is lower and the population increase is low now in thailand. there are some foreign girls at least in bangkok (middle eastern and russian cater mostly the indian and arab clientel), than african girls. also, from other asian countries, for example reasently i talked with two philippine girls whose work now in bankok. but, also true many more thai girls work abroad than foreign girls work in thailand.
thecost of living in bangkok and pattaya is high, so the prices for p4p do also rise. the thai currency is strong against european and us currency as in many asian countries now. and last but not least punter pay serious cash for pretty girls, so why should they go for small money?
i can have cheaper p4p in my home town frankfurt, even with prettier girls. i still spend my hollyday in thailand, but it was not like before a easy decision. i had plans just to stay a few days in thailand and than head to jakarta. but, i got a little lazy, is still funny in the clubs and i know already some pretty freelancer who provide decent service for normal prices. so, i have doubt, that i will buy a ticket to jakarta. it's most likely alot of hazzle to find the right hotel and to get familar with the situation there.
but, that means also i have to extent my visa, since my hollyday is longer than 30 days.
or can a someone give good advice about the best airline to jakarta, decent, gf and not too expensive hotel in the center of the action in jakarta?
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint]Angelwitch,
This is free to get in. Sure, the drinks are more expensive than the bars. You pay extra to watch the great shows.
Tony's. Normally a great selection of girls. You get girls that have finished their day or night job. That could be Pattaya office workers or Pattaya bar workers. You get freelancers and, during Thai holidays and weekends there is the added bonus of Bangkok office girls. Again, free to get in with live shows. Tony is normally on stage doing his thing. Drinks are expensive. I think last time a small Heineken cost me 250 Baht.
Lucifers. The club at the back is normally packed with girls. Again, the same scenario as Tony's with a cross selection of girls. The last time I was there I sat with 4 office workers from Bangkok. They all worked for Isuzu. To me they all looked stunning. It's not that dark. The thing with the office workers, in Pattaya for a long weekend, is that they really like to be shagged. They might only visit Pattaya twice a year and are really up for it. Obviously you have to buy drinks. These drinks will cost more than a normal bar fine but, in most cases, you won't have to pay them.
Con: They might try to get you to put a ring on their finger.[/QUOTE]
Con also: At the bar prices in Tony and Lucifer, the girl better be worth it if you don't pick her up sharpish.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Even for the minority of girls who prefer the easy money of prostitution to more strenuous toils, there are so many well-off Thai men now that they can have the easy money without ever having to put up with the hated farang. Again, here I am only talking about the very attractive girls - as we all know Thais would never have relations with about 90% of the girls in Pattaya, much less pay for it. [/QUOTE]For clarification purposes only and not slamming you Opebo you just opened the door here, what Thai's and Asians find attractive is generally NOT what Farangs find attractive. General Statement not true all the time of course but what a Japanese Customer likes is not always what an American likes. That's not even considering what Thais find attractive. I see White ladies (russians, american whatever) who I think are butt ugly dog turds that are being paraded around by thai's who find them a status symbol or hot or whatever for whatever reason.
People complain about Farangs walking their Isaan rent a wives around but I find it just as disgusting to see the Thai's / Asian's parading around and obese and or butt ugly piece of white trash. Or thai's walking around with Hi So thai girls so pasty and noses so far up in the air. Just is disgusting to me.
I know many many many girls who work Farang Bars who started working at Thai GO GO's in other parts of the country who got NO customers from the thai's. But they head to Nana / Cowboy / Pattaya and they are in demand or paid a higher rate by foreigners.
A wing man of mine and I have exact opposite tastes in ladies and what we look for. We rarely ever pick or choose or like the same girl. What he enjoys and finds attractive I would not take to bed. What I enjoy and find attractive he would rather chew off his arm then take to bed. He's Asian but raised in American I'm a mutt living more towards Asia.
Different strokes for different folks in all things. The point is to enjoy your mongering within the level and means you can monger. There is not any one style or rule or form that we all must follow.
Some people think my girls are strong bodied dark skinned isaan farm girls, and well, to put up with me they have to be strong and energetic not white pasty delicate want to be princesses with attitudes. And that's OK, as long as we all enjoy. I don't care how others get their girls or what they do with them, it's none of my business and I'm not like some members who think they are the mongering police who rule lord over what should or should not be done (not you Opebo).
I was discussing one of the banned topic on these threads of why so many guys want to flock and take the "not 100% true or real females" in Pattaya, and my older brother 1Ball said, leave it alone not your business. And he's right, not my place to judge how others enjoy their time as long as we enjoy what we have and do without bothering others.
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My suggestion....
DG68,
(1) AirAsia from Bangkok to Jakarta.
(2) In Jakarta stay at Sparks Hotel (interesting night activities at the hotel) which will put you squarely in the action areas near Kota with Lokasari Plaza located diagonally opposite the hotel. If you are bored there, venture (by taxi which is cheap) to ManggaDua area or if you like the sleazy setting head to Jalan Pelatehan (spelling?) where clubs like Top Gun, etc are located.
Cheers
normad2020
[QUOTE=DG69]Most likely true, but that isn't all. First of all there are less supply, since the poverty is lower and the population increase is low now in Thailand. There are some foreign girls at least in Bangkok (middle eastern and Russian cater mostly the Indian and Arab clientel), than African girls. Also, from other Asian countries, for example reasently I talked with two Philippine girls whose work now in Bankok. But, also true many more Thai girls work abroad than foreign girls work in Thailand.
Thecost of living in Bangkok and Pattaya is high, so the prices for p4p do also rise. The Thai currency is strong against European and US currency as in many Asian countries now. And last but not least Punter pay serious cash for pretty girls, so why should they go for small money?
I can have cheaper P4P in my Home Town Frankfurt, even with prettier girls. I still spend my hollyday in Thailand, but it was not like before a easy decision. I had plans just to stay a few days in Thailand and than head to Jakarta. But, I got a little lazy, is still funny in the clubs and I know already some pretty freelancer who provide decent service for normal prices. So, I have doubt, that I will buy a ticket to Jakarta. It's most likely alot of hazzle to find the right hotel and to get familar with the situation there.
But, that means also I have to extent my Visa, since my Hollyday is longer than 30 days.
Or can a someone give good advice about the best airline to Jakarta, decent, gf and not too expensive Hotel in the center of the action in Jakarta?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Betong]Finally, someone here who understands economics. I've given up trying to explain how giving a generous tip does not in fact 'ruin the market for all of us', though I am still waiting to hear if getting freebie helps the market for all of us, and if not, then why not.[/QUOTE]IMHO pussy is a commodity such as salt, gold, rice. I mean with 6.8 billion units on this planet you gotta figure that 3.4 billion came with a pussy as standard equipment. 1 baht of gold = 1 baht of gold = 1 baht of gold. Why would I pay 3000 baht for 1 baht of gold on Soi 8 when I could pay 1000 baht on Soi 6? When there is a pussy glut such as there is in Thailand at any given time, I'm not going to pay as if I was in the U.A.E. where pussy is scarce.
On the surface I might b^tch and try to get the point across that people shouldn't pay more than necessary. However underneath I'm not personally worried about it because at the end of the day at 38 years old I'm still young enough and have plenty of game to back me up. I just like to look out for the next monger.
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[QUOTE=Normad2020]DG68,
(1) AirAsia from Bangkok to Jakarta.
(2) In Jakarta stay at Sparks Hotel (interesting night activities at the hotel) which will put you squarely in the action areas near Kota with Lokasari Plaza located diagonally opposite the hotel. If you are bored there, venture (by taxi which is cheap) to ManggaDua area or if you like the sleazy setting head to Jalan Pelatehan (spelling?) where clubs like Top Gun, etc are located.
Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]
Yes I could do that. Price would be 3750 one way without tax. So, around 10000 THB to come to Jakarta. A extended Visa will cost me about 1000 THB at Thai Immigration in BKK were I am now.
Thailand I know very well, so I can avoide mistakes. In Indonesia I would most likely learn it the hard way.
On the other hand side the Indo girls might be more beautiful and a different touch, also it's always nice to see something new.
Though Thailand is at the moment not so bad. It might be true, on the long run, the sex paradise Thailand might lose attraction, because of some sucker who think they need to overpay to compensate their short commings, or because the overall economic values in Thailand reduce supply on available pretty girls. But, at the moment I have a great time. Enough pretty girls available (at least in Bangkok were I am now) and if you play your cards right even to acceptable costs.
So, I guess I will stay in LOS and might go at my next Holiday in Autumn to Indonesia.
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[QUOTE=DG69]...So, I have doubt, that I will buy a ticket to Jakarta.[/QUOTE]
Good luck. I've never been to Jakarta, but from what I've heard and read, it is quite a lot more expensive even than Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]IMHO pussy is a commodity such as salt, gold, rice. I mean with 6.8 billion units on this planet you gotta figure that 3.4 billion came with a pussy as standard equipment. 1 baht of gold = 1 baht of gold = 1 baht of gold. Why would I pay 3000 baht for 1 baht of gold on Soi 8 when I could pay 1000 baht on Soi 6?...[/QUOTE]
Your "pussy is a commodity" theory assumes that all girls are fungible; all look, act, and perform alike. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. Some girls are just plain better and worth more than others, IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Your commodity theory assumes that all girls are fungible; all look, act, and perform alike. Nothing could be further from the truth. Some girls are just plain better and worth more than others, IMHO.[/QUOTE]True indeed. But you don't usually find out the true value until after the deed is done. In this mongering game we agree to pay a certain price with no money back guarantee before we drive the car off the lot. All we see is the outside packaging, and when we order from an add sometimes we don't even see that. I'm sure most of us have paid for a Mercedes and found out later that it had a Fiat engine and vice versa. This game is played with so many unknowns. There should be some type of lemon law.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]True indeed. But you don't usually find out the true value until after the deed is done. In this mongering game we agree to pay a certain price with no money back guarantee before we drive the car off the lot. All we see is the outside packaging, and when we order from an add sometimes we don't even see that. I'm sure most of us have paid for a Mercedes and found out later that it had a Fiat engine and vice versa. This game is played with so many unknowns. There should be some type of lemon law.[/QUOTE]Yes Mr. Enternational so true. You never know what is under the bonnet or, hood, depending from where you come from. Sometimes something with a very big sound turns out to be all mouth and no action. Well, they will make more sounds but, not do anything. And, the more quiet one, sat in the corner saying nothing might be the one who makes everything worthwhile. Lemon Law, what ever that means, might be a good idea?
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Your "pussy is a commodity" theory assumes that all girls are fungible; all look, act, and perform alike. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth. Some girls are just plain better and worth more than others, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Had me checking my Thesaurus: Is that it?
fun·gi·ble (f n j-b l) adj. 1. Law Returnable or negotiable in kind or by substitution, as a quantity of grain for an equal amount of the same kind of grain.
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Saint Mint,
Haha, not sure where you hail from friend, but in the US when you purchase a car (generally new) that starts to have a lot of mechanical issues right away or within a short period of time, you would call that car a "lemon". Most States have lemon laws that force the car dealer to make good on the bum car. FWIW :)
[QUOTE=Saint Mint] Lemon Law, what ever that means, might be a good idea?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]IMHO pussy is a commodity such as salt, gold, rice. I mean with 6. 8 billion units on this planet you have to figure that 3. 4 billion came with a pussy as standard equipment. 1 baht of gold = 1 baht of gold = 1 baht of gold. Why would I pay 3000 baht for 1 baht of gold on Soi 8 when I could pay 1000 baht on Soi 6? When there is a pussy glut such as there is in Thailand at any given time, I'm not going to pay as if I was in the U. A. E. Where pussy is scarce.
On the surface I might btch and try to get the point across that people shouldn't pay more than necessary. However underneath I'm not personally worried about it because at the end of the day at 38 years old I'm still young enough and have plenty of game to back me up. I just like to look out for the next monger.[/QUOTE]I think this idea is intriguing. In fact, why pay 1000 Baht on Soi 6 when you can pay almost nothing for the pussies of the old beggars under the overpass leading to 2nd road? A pussy is a pussy is a pussy.
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My wife and I just got back from our first trip to Thailand. While in Pattaya, we picked up a 22 year old stunner in Baccara. She asked for 3000 for LT at first. When I asked for the ST rate, she said 2000. I didn't blink or try to get her to lower her price. We took her to our hotel and were treated to an amazing gfe. It was truly one of the great bargains of my life. She was absolutely beautiful with a gorgeous face and perfect body, a joy to spend time with (we ate a late dinner together afterwards) and smiled all the time.
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Jakarta vs. Pattaya
[QUOTE=Opebo]I've never been to Jakarta, but from what I've heard and read, it is quite a lot more expensive even than Thailand.[/QUOTE]
I have been working in Jakarta the past two and one-half months and have found it to be cheaper than Pattaya, where I visited for a month last year.
Culturally, Indonesia and Thailand are worlds apart. If you have a basic knowledge of the local language you will certainly find quality girls at prices equal to or cheaper than Thai girls, IMHO.
Bule2004
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[QUOTE=Bule2004]I have been working in Jakarta the past two and one-half months and have found it to be cheaper than Pattaya, where I visited for a month last year.
Culturally, Indonesia and Thailand are worlds apart. If you have a basic knowledge of the local language you will certainly find quality girls at prices equal to or cheaper than Thai girls, IMHO.
Bule2004[/QUOTE]
I were in Indonesia, but about 10 to 15 years ago. At that time, the girls in the Clubs asked for 100$ and at that time, Thailand was cheaper. But, there were local so called hunting girls and street working girls, whose were cheaper.
The girls were good performer and quite nice. Good fun indeed, but it was dirty in Indonesia, I had often problems with stomach, when I eat in local restaurants, so I used to go to Fast Food Restaurants. Girls were also not as clean as Thais and Hotels were expensive in regard to Thailand.
So, all together Indonesia was nice, since I made a sightseeing trip from Jakarta, Jogjakarta, Surabaya, Mount Bromo to Bali. People were very friendly and girls imho more pretty than in Thailand.
Though if I count the whole package, in regards of price for Hotel, quality of Food, traffic, availability of girls, etc I prefer Thailand.
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don't agree
[QUOTE=Bule2004]I have been working in Jakarta the past two and one-half months and have found it to be cheaper than Pattaya, where I visited for a month last year.
Culturally, Indonesia and Thailand are worlds apart. If you have a basic knowledge of the local language you will certainly find quality girls at prices equal to or cheaper than Thai girls, IMHO.
Bule2004[/QUOTE]Bule2004,
I think Pattaya is cheaper overall for hotel and mongering ,yes I will say Jarkata is cheaper than Bangkok ,Jarkata is a big city so price will be higher than smaller city in Indo like Badung or Batam island .
Fast eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Bule2004]I have been working in Jakarta the past two and one-half months and have found it to be cheaper than Pattaya, where I visited for a month last year.
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What is cheaper? Aslo, don't most indo girls smoke?
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
A wing man of mine and I have exact opposite tastes in ladies and what we look for. We rarely ever pick or choose or like the same girl. What he enjoys and finds attractive I would not take to bed. What I enjoy and find attractive he would rather chew off his arm then take to bed. He's Asian but raised in American I'm a mutt living more towards Asia.
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Wow...very well said. I been looking for answers to this paradox of selection between Farangs and Asian men. Being Asian myself, I have always thought while in Pattaya and now in PH that why do farangs always pick girls which i wouldn't go with anywhere.
Its not like, ok she is not the best, but will do, and im kinda ok with her, no, its amazement and sometimes disgusting...is he serious.....Did he travel all the way from europe and america to pick a girl who has no business to be in bars.
However, hard i try, my thoughts always go in for an extreme reaction. ohh man, its some kinda confession for me to say like this, i still remember the faces of every farang and his selection in pattaya, the image of mismatch has stuck me for ever. It was not supposed to be like that, i should be minding my own business but i can't help but notice.
I felt sorry for the farangs, and thought they could do better, little did i know, they share the same feelings for us :). I have bar hopped with farangs in PH and they will always go against my selection and find some fault and will push their selection on me. They seem upset and a visible disbelief that i could go with a girl like that.
Over the years, i read the same issues of choice wars between Asians and farangs. It should be a good thing right, less competition, but showhow, it goes the other way and generates extreme emotions.
The choice of bar girls between asians and farangs, is one of extremes. There seems to be no middle ground.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]IMHO pussy is a commodity such as salt, gold, rice. [/QUOTE]
Wouldn't it be better to think of it in terms of a car? I like all gold regardless of the price, but I don't like all automobiles. Age, type, mileage, looks, etc are a factor.
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Wow...very well said. I been looking for answers to this paradox of selection between Farangs and Asian men. Being Asian myself, I have always thought while in Pattaya and now in PH that why do farangs always pick girls which i wouldn't go with anywhere...[/QUOTE]
I disagree with your conclutions. I am convinced that most men whether they are Farangs or not like the same kind of women. Otherwise Asian men wouldn't like the female actors in Hollywood movies.
The reason why you see so many Farangs with "ugly" girls are imho, because Farang guys are often too shy or have low self esteem or are not used to court women. So the bargirls, mamasan choose for them and therefore also not attractive girls can make business.
I am often in Clubs were you can also find Asian, Arab and Indian guys. They are in my eyes, very pushy to the girls. They are not afraid to get deceived or look like fools. Often they have girls which I find attractive myself. I have to admit, I don't mean those poor arab and indian guys, who often can only pay the ugly girls. I speak from those rich Arabs and Indian guys in Spassos, CM2, Bossy, etc.
Also, the girls in the gentlemen clubs are most likely those, who you would like as well. Some Farang might perfer dark, small and skinny girls, but I am quite sure the mayority like tall, leggie, curvy girls, which you see in advertisment, movies and magazines.
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[QUOTE=DG69]Some Farang might perfer dark, small and skinny girls, but I am quite sure the mayority like tall, leggie, curvy girls, which you see in advertisment, movies and magazines.[/QUOTE]Well, up to a point. In my eyes it is all about proportion: If she is tall then she has to be leggy, and if she is big then I expect her to be curvy. But I am equally comfortable with small girls with a typical asian physique - I wouldn't say skinny, but certainly slender and bumpy (rather than curvy) is fine by me. And I genuinely have absolutely no interest in the relative shade of the skin.
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[QUOTE=DG69]
The reason why you see so many Farangs with "ugly" girls are imho, because Farang guys are often too shy or have low self esteem or are not used to court women. So the bargirls, mamasan choose for them and therefore also not attractive girls can make business.
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I think you see most farang with "ugly girls" is because they are easier, cheaper, and more available than the sexier local hot thais, and faranag don't have to compete with the thais to get them. Lets face it, in every country in the world the local elite gets the cream of the crop
I love the white skin upper market girls that Thai men like too, but I'm not gonna drop 5k+ every time I get laid.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I think you see most farang with "ugly girls" is because they are easier, cheaper, and more available than the sexier local hot thais, and faranag don't have to compete with the thais to get them. Lets face it, in every country in the world the local elite gets the cream of the crop
I love the white skin upper market girls that Thai men like too, but I'm not gonna drop 5k+ every time I get laid.[/QUOTE]
Disagree.
Many farang want a thai girl who is exotic.
Pale white skin and snotty rich-girl attitude are attributes present in roughly 80% of western women.
To come to Thailand and go after the same thing would be a waste of opportunity.
I much prefer the tan peasant girls.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]Disagree.
Many farang want a thai girl who is exotic.
Pale white skin and snotty rich-girl attitude are attributes present in roughly 80% of western women.
To come to Thailand and go after the same thing would be a waste of opportunity.
I much prefer the tan peasant girls.[/QUOTE]
All thais are exotic regardless of skin color. They all have attributes that are very different than western woman.
"snotty rich-girl attitude" has nothing to do with what i'm talking about here. There are indeed some white skin girls who are peasants too, but not before long a thai guy will scoop em up.
If hot brown skin "ugly" girls went for 5k-10k ST, and rich thais were competing for them I doubt many farangs would be buying them.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I think you see most farang with "ugly girls" is because they are easier, cheaper, and more available than the sexier local hot thais, and faranag don't have to compete with the thais to get them. Lets face it, in every country in the world the local elite gets the cream of the crop
I love the white skin upper market girls that Thai men like too, but I'm not gonna drop 5k+ every time I get laid.[/QUOTE]
Agree. But, I do not pay 500 THB to get laid with a ugly girl. For that I can have girls for free in my Homecountry. No, she should be pretty and the price and attitude should be OK. That's the game and that makes in interesting to hunt in Thailand.
Skin colour isn't too important for me. But, I do agree that a white skin Thai, with pink nipples are often more pretty imho, than the darker skined ones. If that is because of the colour, or because the with skinned ones are usually taller and better in shape I don't know.
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[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]
The choice of bar girls between asians and farangs, is one of extremes. There seems to be no middle ground.[/QUOTE]
Not always. My tastes run pretty close to Asians and especially Japanese. But there's lots of guys out there who have what to me just seems like bad taste -- I think guys like that are usually ones who like to spread their seed far and wide -- in other words they're not very selective. I know one friend like that, he's really handsome and charming, irresistable for women, and he's usually with these dogs. Tho once in awhile I do see him with a looker. But I also notice he has a way bigger sexual appetite than I do, pretty much needs to be with different girls like every day. And when you picture these "girls", imagine that most are ones you'd never consider going to bed with.
Myself, I'm very picky. I don't take girls because they're cheap. I'd rather go home and watch cable tv in my hotel room alone than take home one that's nothing too exciting.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Myself, I'm very picky. I don't take girls because they're cheap. I'd rather go home and watch cable tv in my hotel room alone than take home one that's nothing too exciting.[/QUOTE]Good point. You are exactly like my wing man. He also would prefer short time and sleep alone. I am the exact opposite. If I am with a farm girl with good stamina who doesn't have the top looks or I am overpaying to have girls on call 24 hours I'd rather. As you say "spread the seed" around the clock then be alone.
Sometimes yes, I go for a nice evening and looks and such. But I'm not there to marry them or look for a model. I'm there for their business of providing sexual services and I am the customer so let's rock and roll. My choice, and why I really hate some of the Forum Police around here.
And you are right, majority of the time it is physical and only that. Get a girl who enjoys it as much as I do and we're off to the races to see who can finish more.
Case in point, I had a girl run away after two shot at Pattaya, still early in evening. So run across the street and pick up two girls from beach road to finish off the evening into the morning. Now no way in heck my wing man and many guys would do that.
But that's the joy of Thai right. We can usually find what we like to do.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]... My tastes run pretty close to Asians and especially Japanese. But there's lots of guys out there who have what to me just seems like bad taste -- I think guys like that are usually ones who like to spread their seed far and wide -- in other words they're not very selective...[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure that it's because they are "not very selective". About eleven years ago, when I first went to Thailand, my tastes in local women were different than my current preferences. For instance, at that time, I really liked slim dark skinned girls and I thought that (certain) tattoos were nice on them. I think that it was kind of exotic in my eyes then.
Admittedly, eleven years later, I still prefer slender girls, but I now really dislike tattoos (they are not exotic anymore, but, in most cases, vulgar IMHO) and I tend to go with girls whose complexion is "creamy" nowadays.
Fortunately, one does not have to spend big money to fuck a "white" skinned Asian girl in Thailand: just visit the local brothels, in Northeastern Thailand for instance. Service often sucks (pun intended), but the girls are usually really cute, at least, if your tastes are pretty similar to those of the locals.
Here are a few samples (those are not "stunners", but real cuties in my book):
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125563[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127408[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107115[/url]
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Score according to asian man
[QUOTE=Goyave]
Here are a few samples (those are not "stunners", but real cuties in my book):
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125563[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127408[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=107115[/url][/QUOTE]In my case, I don't change my opinion about beauty girls.
No offense, here is my score:
Foto no 1 : 7 (out of 10)
Foto no 2 : 4
Foto no 3 : 5
My preference still reffer to american movies (maybe). White girls in porn movies, nowadays are more beautifull than say 20 years ago:-).
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[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]
But that's the joy of Thai right. We can usually find what we like to do.[/QUOTE]
Exactly Tansak. I just came back from Thailand after an eleven month absence, I was was reminded yet again, that one of the great joys of the country is the freedom of choice without judgment that it seems to afford to everyone who goes there. I had a wonderful, relaxing time, in a great hotel, and with the exception of two very brief excursions, did not go anywhere near Walking St., Beach Rd. or any of the usual haunts.
GE
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[QUOTE=Hbengkok]... No offense, here is my score:
Foto no 1 : 7 (out of 10)
Foto no 2 : 4
Foto no 3 : 5...[/QUOTE]
To each their own, but I'd like to see what is a beautiful Thai girl or a real Asian cutie for you. Could you enlighten me with a few pictures of pretty Asian girls that you've met in person?
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Wtf?
[QUOTE=Goyave]To each their own, but I'd like to see what is a beautiful Thai girl or a real Asian cutie for you. Could you enlighten me with a few pictures of pretty Asian girls that you've met in person?[/QUOTE]
Not directed at Goyave specifically, he's just the last in a long line:
What a bunch of mental masturbation is going on here? Endless posts about the theory of attraction and "I like 'em dark" and "I like 'em leggy".
Thread is called "Pattaya Reports", not "a bunch of shit about me".
Ok, the tone of this is a bit harsh, but does anyone need more posts of this type where info about Pattaya is supposed to be posted?
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Not directed at Goyave specifically, he's just the last in a long line:
What a bunch of mental masturbation is going on here? Endless posts about the theory of attraction and "I like 'em dark" and "I like 'em leggy".
Thread is called "Pattaya Reports", not "a bunch of shit about me".
Ok, the tone of this is a bit harsh, but does anyone need more posts of this type where info about Pattaya is supposed to be posted?[/QUOTE]You are free to post some. More effective than complaining. You may want to double check how many of your posts contain valuable information.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]
Ok, the tone of this is a bit harsh, but does anyone need more posts of this type where info about Pattaya is supposed to be posted?[/QUOTE]
Good luck to you in your effort to convince people to stop discussing things on a discussion forum. ;)
If ya want pure info, look up a guide to PTY nightlife on some website. I can understand your purist desires, but... life's not like that. It just won't happen.
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Cant see what your problem is Slacker.
As wendella says-it is a discussion forum.
Perhaps you don't belong.
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I didn't really know which part of the Pattaya forum to post this. I have put it here. Maybe it will be moved. Maybe someone will complain and it will be deleted. Let's C.
For me, I think the main aim of this forum is to provide valuable information for people just arriving in Pattaya, thinking of visiting Pattaya and Thai women. This is what I am going to try and attempt to do. For the people who have already ready read Saint Mint and consider me to be a Newbie, 4 Month Wonder, Guerilla Marketer etc. This is not for you. This is not for local Thai ex-pats.
My first visit to Pattaya was I the early nineties. A 10 day vacation turned into a six month vacation. Well, I did go home but, more or less got on the next flight back to Thailand. For the 10 day vacation I stayed at the Royal Garden Hotel. The name has now changed to the Marriott. The only issue I had back then was the joiner fee. Although then, I was just a tourist flashing cash and didn't really care. I understand the Marriott is now joiner friendly.
During my stay I was reading a book about a very famous sports personality from the sixties. Girls seemed to love him. He used to shag Miss Worlds for breakfast. Well, sat round the pool reading this at the Royal Garden got me very excited. He was a kind of my role model. Now I was in Pattaya and I shagged my Miss Worlds. I was in fantasy land. Day time in the Sabai Rooms and Sabai Land and, in the evening, picking up girls at the Marine Bar. The ten days just flew by. It was an alcoholic shag fest.
Flying back home all I could think about was getting back to Thailand. I had already quit my job prior to the ten day vacation. As the plane descended through the clouds to land I knew that I had to get back to Thailand ASAP. The doom and gloom of the clouds just depressed me. So, a few days after taking off from Thailand I was back again. The same smells and heat, that hit me in the face on my first visit, hit me again. This time I didn't mind.
I stayed at the Diana Inn and, very quickly Joy, a girl I had met in the Happy World Bar moved in. The Happy World Bar used to be on the Beach Road near to Soi Post Office with a good selection of girls. Now, it has moved to the second road. Opposite The Avenue. Last time I looked there were no decent girls. Anyway, I had some fun with Joy. She was 19. She enjoyed sex and we usually had morning and evening sessions. I still liked to get out and play a bit. The occasional trip to Sabai Land and nights out at the Marine Bar. Don't think she knew about the Sabai Land trips. She soon found out about the Marine Bar trips. One night she turned up, saw me sitting at the bar, picked up my drink and threw it in my face. She was also quite unhappy another night when I shagged another girl from her bar. I thought it would be OK. I arranged to meet her away from the bar and we did the business. She promised not to tell Joy. When I got home Joy already knew and bottles went flying around the room and, she even came at me with a knife. I had never hit a woman but, that night, I came very close. If you have a girl friend try not to shag one of her friends. If you want to shag her friend try and get your girl friend to join in.
That was a rough night but, a few nights later I had an even rougher night. This was a Saturday night. Darts night. Think we lost the game but won the beer leg. Anyway, like most darts nights everyone was well pissed. My team played away. At an Aussie Bar on the second road. May have been Aussie Ken's. Think it's gone now. It was probably opposite to where Royal Garden is now. After the game I decided to go to Soi 2 to see a girl I liked there. I got on my motor bike, I had never ridden one before but, loads of falangs were riding them so I rented one. I didn't make it to Soi 2. The next thing I remember is drifting in and out of consciousness at a local Hospital. The next day I found out what happened. Just after Soi 6 a taxi pulled out in front of me. Apparently I hit it side on and went flying over the top. This was in the days of no crash helmets. I was very lucky. I ended up without a scratch. Just a broken leg and my biggest check bin ever. Ten days in Hospital, a new Motor Bike and repairs to the taxi. Obviously the contents of my wallet went missing along with my shoes and watch.
For the rest of that holiday I spent a lot of time in bed and walking around on crutches. A big change from the alcoholic shag fest. By the time I returned home I had just about recovered. I then began a two year period of visiting Thailand once a year for short holidays. I soon lost touch with Joy. She married some falang and, last I heard, she was living happily in Germany.
The next Thai girl to come into my life turned out to be called Nok. We stayed at the Asia Pattaya. I had originally met her in Soi 8. Again 19 years old. Small, smooth skin, slender limbs and breasts like buds. Very much like the pictures I put up from the girl I picked up in the Kitten Club a few days ago. This is my taste. Sex, with Nok, was great. Just like Joy we had the morning and evening sessions. But, I had to return home to work and, before I left, I put the small piece of paper with her bank details in my wallet. Anyone who has read my postings will know what happened next. Yes, each month money would go from my bank to hers. I was a sponsor and, I was comfortable with this except, when she called me the day after receiving money, to say she had spent it. Some months 15, 000, 20, 000 or 30, 000 Baht. I met her again the following year and again sex was great. The only problem was I didn't want to live that kind of life. So I moved to Thailand.
I had to get myself out of the alcoholic sex fest mood and into a work frame of mind. We moved into a furnished house about 30 minutes from Pattaya. Rent 15, 000 Baht per month. I did a few odd jobs around Pattaya before I got a job with one of the companies on one of the Industrial Estates.
For a couple of years life with Nok was very good. She kept the house looking good. Fed me well and sex was still great just no so frequent. Not so frequent was mainly down to me. During the week I would have to wake up at 05. 00 leave the house by 05. 30. Get to work at 07. 00. Finish work around 18. 30 and be home by 20. 00. Most nights I was shagged and didn't feel like shagging. The weekends were OK. We had some good sessions.
Then, after 2 years things really began to change. The house looked a tip. Very rarely would there be food on the table when I got home from work and, if I wanted weekend sex I would have to find her first. Where would I find her? In a neighbors house. Sitting on the floor. In a circle with a group of neighbors. Playing cards. I liked to sleep late Saturday and, when I did wake up, I needed shag. Most times Nok would not be there. She would have already joined the circle of cards. This was the beginning of my Saturday afternoon alcoholic sex fests.
Many Saturday afternoons I would be finding solace with the Kitten Club girls. Playing pool with them. Getting drunk with them and shagging them. This was the old days when the pool tables were in the club. The girls loved playing me because I was so useless. If they won they got a drink. Most of the times they won. Sometimes I would go home in the early hours of Sunday morning. Other times Sunday afternoon. Nok didn't seem to care. I did try other places, Winchester Club in Jomiten, Jades on the way to Jomtien, Wilkom Inn and Soi 6 etc. I even started playing basketball in Bangkok. This was good as it meant I could overnight in Bangkok from time to time.
There were times when Nok pulled herself together and we would have a good few months. During these times she would always ask for something and, she usually got it. These were 3 of my biggest clangors'. To add to the ones I had already made.
1. You buy me bike I no play cards any more and can have boom boom all the time. She got the bike.
2. I want new breasts. One of the neighbors had implants and she wanted them. She made me look at the neighbors and touch them. The neighbors were not too bad but, I said no. I like small breasts. One day I came home from work and a neighbor told me she was at the hospital. She had borrowed money from the neighbor, 70, 000 Baht, and had the implants. They were massive. They looked like Pamela Andersons gone wrong. When she lent forward she toppled over. I hated them. Still had to pay.
3. Can we get married? So we got married.
Soon it was back to normal and she was in the circle of cards. To stop herself from toppling over when she lent forward she developed a fat ass. She looked terrible and, I had married it. Then sex dried up altogether. I asked her why. She said she didn't like it. The same with house work. She didn't like it.
Things came to a head one Christmas Eve when I came home with her present. As usual I had to search the street. I found her in the game. Dragged her out and back home. I tried to talk to her. It was impossible. She had pushed me over the edge so much. I grabbed a bag and left. If I had stayed blood would have been shed. Christmas Eve. I did manage to find a room at Shagwell Mansion. They let me sleep in one of their short times rooms by the swimming pool. Quite a nice room.
Three months later I meet a new girl. She is 29. I am older and fatter and, probably smellier as well. Not so easy to hook up with a 19 year old any more. After a while we start living together. I was still working so we just have sex during the weekend. Her 5 year old son moved in with us. This made the weekend sex a bit more difficult but, he is a good lad. Things came to a head with this one when I stopped work. She still wanted the once a week session if that. I tell her I want it everyday. She tells me to go and see a doctor. I tried to tactfully ask her if she really liked women and, perhaps we should try some kind of three some. She went mad and had an asthma attack. I don't know what is going to happen next.
As for this forum. All I am telling you is what I like to do and where. I am putting up the pictures because I think some members would like to see the pictures. I will be out again later tonight and might take some more.
If anyone has any comments about my story feel free to send me a PM. Oh yes, before anyone asks me about my brain. When I moved here I checked it into the brain left luggage area at the old Bangkok airport. I have no idea where it is now.
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Not for the faint of heart
[QUOTE=Wendella]... I can understand your purist desires, but... life's not like that. It just won't happen.[/QUOTE]
Basically, Slackerslacker is right... but it should not prevent Hbengkok from posting a few pictures (for instance, in the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2183"]Photo Gallery[/url]) of cute Asian girls that he has met personally in the real life.
And in order to please our purist members, I'm gonna add a short report here about a little known P4P location.
Some time ago, I spoke about a place "in the woods" of South Pattaya (not far away from Arthachinda Road) where one can get a blow job or even FS at a very cheap price (100 or 200 baht for a BBBJTC, 200 or 300 baht for FS, depending on the provider).
Of course, the great majority of the girls working in this area are far from being attractive (I'm pretty certain that Hbengkok would give them negative marks!), but once in a blue moon, one can find a semi-decent looking provider here. So, it's certainly not for the faint of heart, but at least it's very cheap and a couple of girls are there from relatively early in the morning (for instance, I've already had a quick release there at 10am).
If you are adventurous and don't care much about the looks of the girl who gives you head, provided that the (blow) job is well done, you should give it a try. It won't cost you an arm! :D
Their working area is circled in red on the attached map.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]but does anyone need more posts of this type where info about Pattaya is supposed to be posted?[/QUOTE]
Why not change the topic instead of complain?
So, is it a buyers market in Pattaya yet? What are beach road girls going for now?
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[QUOTE=Hbengkok]In my case, I don't change my opinion about beauty girls.
No offense, here is my score:
Foto no 1 : 7 (out of 10)
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So, a 7 on a scale of 1-10 for only 300 baht! That's some serious bang for your buck!
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Some time ago, I spoke about a place "in the woods" of South Pattaya (not far away from Arthachinda Road) where one can get a blow job or even FS at a very cheap price (100 or 200 baht for a BBBJTC, 200 or 300 baht for FS, depending on the provider).[/QUOTE]I know you mentioned 10AM but what are the normal working hours of the SPs in that location? I usually ride my motorbike that way when I head over to Jomtien but I have never noticed any action there.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]
And in order to please our purist members, I'm gonna add a short report here about a little known P4P location.
Some time ago, I spoke about a place "in the woods" of South Pattaya (not far away from Arthachinda Road) where one can get a blow job or even FS at a very cheap price (100 or 200 baht for a BBBJTC, 200 or 300 baht for FS, depending on the provider).
Of course, the great majority of the girls working in this area are far from being attractive (I'm pretty certain that Hbengkok would give them negative marks!), but once in a blue moon, one can find a semi-decent looking provider here. So, it's certainly not for the faint of heart, but at least it's very cheap and a couple of girls are there from relatively early in the morning (for instance, I've already had a quick release there at 10am).
If you are adventurous and don't care much about the looks of the girl who gives you head, provided that the (blow) job is well done, you should give it a try. It won't cost you an arm! :D
Their working area is circled in red on the attached map.[/QUOTE]
I've been visiting that area for more than 10 years, and have never been disappointed.
There are some roses amongst the thorns, and as Goyave says sex can be had for 2/300bt. I usually go to either the girls rooms (often in Flybird condo) or to a local short-time hotel for 100bt.. Don't fancy going into the bushes!
I have on 2 occasions had 2 girls together, and for 500bt that included some lesbian play.
There are invariably girls to be found there 24 hours a day, but beware the occasional ladyboy!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I know you mentioned 10AM but what are the normal working hours of the SPs in that location? I usually ride my motorbike that way when I head over to Jomtien but I have never noticed any action there.[/QUOTE]
Don't expect to find a lot of providers here, but during the morning, usually 2 or 3 girls are working there, while in the afternoon (at 4 or 5 pm for instance), you should find about 6-8 girls in this area.
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]... beware the occasional ladyboy![/QUOTE]
I've never seen a ladyboy here so far, but it's quite possible that a couple of them are also working there sometimes.
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Beware of guides giving tips, on female Trolls under the bridges & the Bushes
How can you encourage and even disseminate information on (half dozen other STD infected) hookers giving it away for 300 bht? Obviously any chick at that level is not good for the members of this forum.
A condom can only protect so much. Part of safe sex in Pattaya is to make sure of the statisical risk pool you are screwing with. Clean girls who take care of them selves, and then check them for STD's at the clinic. Then wear a condom.
Please lets not encourage our band of punters to get 200-300 bht hooker out of bushes & under the bridges.
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I think you got it half right. Seems to be a lot of co-mingling chat room and forum styles.
[QUOTE=Phil Istine]Cant see what your problem is Slacker.
As wendella says-it is a discussion forum.
Perhaps you don't belong.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]... Clean girls who take care of them selves, and then check them for STD's at the clinic.[/QUOTE]
How could you be certain that your Thai girl is "clean"? Do you require her recent HIV and other STDs test results prior fucking her? How would the results be relevant if in the meanwhile the girl has fucked bareback with her Thai boyfriend (as it is often the case)? And how could you be sure that, for instance, a HIV test result is genuine in Thailand? I've undergone a few HIV rapid tests at public hospitals (300 baht and results are given within the hour) and my name was not mentioned on the results, only the number of the test (and of course, at the hospital and only there, they know that this test was mine). So, even if you see the results of a HIV test, you cannot know for sure that they really are those of the girl you want to fuck!
[QUOTE=InventionGuy]...Then wear a condom.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's a sensitive advice. Now, just think about the number of punters who got BBBJ (and sometimes even bareback FS) between two STDs tests from those girls working in what is, according to you, safer places regarding sexual diseases transmission. I don't think that anyone could name a P4P place that is 100% safe in this respect anywhere in Thailand.
Now, feel free to continue this discussion in the "[url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1035"]Safe Sex in Thailand[/url]" thread if you have some valuable contribution to add on this matter.
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Ok so since all are STD suspects, then we should DO Trolls under the Bridge & Bush
You do what ever you can to lessen your risk factor. Pick them right, check them to best of your abilities, and wear a condom.
Throwing caution into the windy bushes, BBBJing under the bridges in not good advice. I would Never disseminate or plant that seed into any ones' mind. In fact I would examine or replace that Troll Fetish with a safer one.
Yes these reminders are good, If some one brought up these unsafe acts, please object right when you see it.
The 200 Baht BBBJ under the bridge, could cost much more. Please gang be safe, so you can monger more.
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Hey folks. Been 5 weeks since my last trip to Thailand so think I need another one soon. Planning on going over in July and August for 2 months. Can anyone recommend a long stay hotel? Alternatively does anyone know if it's possible to get a condo in Pattay or Jomtien for a couple of months. lookig for somthing quite up market.
thanks
Johnthescot
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Last year I stayed in Pattaya Baywalk and they had a 1000 THB rate per day if you book one months in low season. Normal price is about 1600-1800 THB. I can recommend, also it's very central and good wifi. Opposite is Fraser Resort, a bit upscale but I guess good.
According Condo there are View Talay 6, next to Central Festival Center. There are some rent offices. One offers only >3months rentals. The other also short term contracts, but the lazy Philippine girl in the office prefered to have private calls, instead telling me the conditions. I guess the Boss wouldn't be happy about her attitude to her work.
There are much more Condos and Hotels for long terms in the Pattaya Hotel Thread.
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Hey folks. Been 5 weeks since my last trip to Thailand so think I need another one soon. Planning on going over in July and August for 2 months. Can anyone recommend a long stay hotel? Alternatively does anyone know if it's possible to get a condo in Pattay or Jomtien for a couple of months. lookig for somthing quite up market.
thanks
Johnthescot[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.dancewatchers.com/Luxury_View_Talay_6_Condo_rentals_room_views.html.html[/url]
Try the link the place is right next to festival shopping centre. I hear it is a good place to stay.
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[QUOTE=InventionGuy]You do what ever you can to lessen your risk factor. Pick them right, check them to best of your abilities, and wear a condom...[/QUOTE]
If you want to lessen even more your risk factor, don't come to Thailand! For instance, Thailand is one of the worst countries in respect of road safety, therefore, it's very likely more dangerous to just cross the road here than in your own country.
Now, regarding our favorite hobby, there is no 100% safe P4P place in the Land of Smiles. If you wear a condom and use it correctly, your risk factor is very low, regardless of the girl's health status. If you don't use a condom, you're taking a risk, with any prostitute in Thailand, as explained in my previous post!
I already stated that some places are only for adventurous people. But maybe should you better avoid the whole country if you want to lessen your risk factor to the minimum?
Again, this discussion should continue in the "[url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1035"]Safe Sex in Thailand[/url]" thread (that's if you have any valuable input to share, of course, and preferably something that we don't know yet).
You joined this board in July 2003, almost 7 years ago, and haven't posted a real field report yet. You stated in a previous post that you're sponsoring a girl who works in Pattaya, so, you should have a few stories to tell (at least, where and when did you find her, what price did you pay then, what were the services provided, do you always use a condom for every sexual activity with her, etc.), and pictures that you may post in the photo gallery...
It's about time that you contribute with something interesting (even remotely), don't you think so? You've posted 6 "reports" so far. The first one is a question about the current market situation in Pattaya, the next two are trollish posts about sponsoring and local expatriates, your fourth report was edited by Jackson because you didn't write it in English, and the only sensible comment that one can find in the last two "reports" of yours to date could be summarized with this sentence: "It's safer to wear a condom when engaging in sexual activities with a Thai hooker, guys!". Wow! That's very impressive, mate! :rolleyes:
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I'll be in there in a few weeks in Room 17-610. 1st time so I shall see what it brings. Dealing with Tik via email was fairly painless. My only comment, at this point, was 'my' mistake of paying the deposit by PayPal. They ate me alive in fees and the exchange rate. I should of known better but the options where slim.
[QUOTE=ThaiLearner][url]http://www.dancewatchers.com/Luxury_View_Talay_6_Condo_rentals_room_views.html.html[/url]
Try the link the place is right next to festival shopping centre. I hear it is a good place to stay.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jgm005]I'll be in there in a few weeks in Room 17-610. 1st time so I shall see what it brings. Dealing with Tik via email was fairly painless. My only comment, at this point, was 'my' mistake of paying the deposit by PayPal. They ate me alive in fees and the exchange rate. I should of known better but the options where slim.[/QUOTE]
How much for the room?
And how bad did they eat you alive with fees, etc
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+1300 bt per day. A 10 day stay
+ 400 bt for laundry upon checkout
+ 400 bt for cleaning
Deposit was $200 usd sent via Paypal
Actual amount of deposit credited was 5900 bt
Difference was in PayPal 'stuff' which at the time I figured was 500+ bt
[QUOTE=Wendella]How much for the room?
And how bad did they eat you alive with fees, etc[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Goyave], I've already had a quick release there at 10am).
If you are adventurous and don't care much about the looks of the girl who gives you head, provided that the (blow) job is well done, you should give it a try. It won't cost you an arm! :D
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10am and already a quick release--ha, hats off to you, I'm not usually in the mood until after lunch.
The numerous times I've been to Patts, I've never found a "gem" in this area. Unfortunately, I am the type that really likes to look at the lady while she's providing the service and looking at some of the uglier ones there won't get me up regardless how much Vit V I take--strictly IMO.
The prices you posted were about in line with what I was being offered (about 300 or so) but for a few $ more, it's just easier for me to cruise Beach Rd for a real cutie to take back to my hotel nearby.
But you're right, for those not caring what one looks like and just close the eyes and perhaps envision a beauty porn star doing the deed then its not a bad option.
Shark
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I know you mentioned 10AM but what are the normal working hours of the SPs in that location? I usually ride my motorbike that way when I head over to Jomtien but I have never noticed any action there.[/QUOTE]
Well, going at 10am (from the times I was actually awake that early) was hit or miss --mostly miss. Sometimes you may see 1-2 providers and mostly not. Also try not to mistaken the few ladies just traveling thru this area (they are not providers) Definitely more regular ladies going thru here than WL.
Later in the evening will have better results (sometimes)
Shark
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[QUOTE=Sharka]... but for a few $ more, it's just easier for me to cruise Beach Rd for a real cutie to take back to my hotel nearby.[/QUOTE]
I do that too, but "early" in the morning, you often won't find any cutie on Beach Road. Actually, when I'm in Pattaya and haven't taken a girl for a LT session the previous night, the "bushes" are a convenient way to treat my early morning erection!
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[QUOTE=Goyave]I do that too, but "early" in the morning, you often won't find any cutie on Beach Road. Actually, when I'm in Pattaya and haven't taken a girl for a LT session the previous night, the "bushes" are a convenient way to treat my early morning erection![/QUOTE]
True, this early and the only ones I've found on Beach Rd were either st. vendors or tourist.
Walked through the area in question a few times but never saw anything that interested me so quickly walked on and never paid too much attention here so can't remember if there were either enough thick bushes or big enough "bushes" here to hide and do the deed--ha ha?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]So, a 7 on a scale of 1-10 for only 300 baht! That's some serious bang for your buck![/QUOTE]
I Could be mistaken, but the photos in question that were posted were probably from a local brothel and not from the "bushes" area , as I've been to the so call bush area -end of beach rd and not seen cuties like those, mostly older not so cute ones are found there.--but thats only from the times I've visited there (which is not too often) from the down quality--IMO
PT
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[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2]I Could be mistaken, but the photos in question that were posted were probably from a local brothel and not from the "bushes" area...[/QUOTE]
You're right, but I (and other Farang customers) also pay only 300 baht ST in these brothels. These pictures were only samples of what are cute girls in my book (not "stunners", but according to my own criteria, the first girl is an 8/10, second one a 7.5/10 and third one a 7/10).
I would say that, for me, most of the girls working in the "bushes" are ranging from 2/10 to 4/10, but once in a blue moon, a 6/10 or 6.5/10 (again, according to my personal criteria) may be found in this area.
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To each his own....
Cheers Mate and enjoy Thailand.
As for me I will be making my Cherry Trip to AC next week!!!!
Really looking forward to a new experience.....
Cheers
normad2020
[QUOTE=DG69]Yes I could do that. Price would be 3750 one way without tax. So, around 10000 THB to come to Jakarta. A extended Visa will cost me about 1000 THB at Thai Immigration in BKK were I am now.
Thailand I know very well, so I can avoide mistakes. In Indonesia I would most likely learn it the hard way.
On the other hand side the Indo girls might be more beautiful and a different touch, also it's always nice to see something new.
Though Thailand is at the moment not so bad. It might be true, on the long run, the sex paradise Thailand might lose attraction, because of some sucker who think they need to overpay to compensate their short commings, or because the overall economic values in Thailand reduce supply on available pretty girls. But, at the moment I have a great time. Enough pretty girls available (at least in Bangkok were I am now) and if you play your cards right even to acceptable costs.
So, I guess I will stay in LOS and might go at my next Holiday in Autumn to Indonesia.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sharka]Well, going at 10am (from the times I was actually awake that early) was hit or miss --mostly miss. Sometimes you may see 1-2 providers and mostly not. Also try not to mistaken the few ladies just traveling thru this area (they are not providers) Definitely more regular ladies going thru here than WL.
Later in the evening will have better results (sometimes)
Shark[/QUOTE]
It is hit and miss, but I have found girls there at 6am (I am very much a morning man), some who have been there all night, + newly arrived ones to catch the not inconsiderable morning trade.
The Beach Road is generally OK around 7am, but any later, parking is a problem. The Bush babes are drive through!
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[QUOTE=Normad2020]Cheers Mate and enjoy Thailand.
As for me I will be making my Cherry Trip to AC next week!!!!
Really looking forward to a new experience.....
Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]
It's a pitty that you do not come to Pattaya instead. I am in Pat since 1st of May, business runs strong. Many tourists here at the moment and therefore also many girls. So, good selection, especially in the clubs. The prices are same like last July, though the THB is stronger, so one must change more Euro, Pounds or Dollar for the THB.
I wish you good luck in AC and if you don't like there, I would recommend you go to Manila. In Makati there are real stunner. I can recommend Royal Bellagio Hotel in Makati. Or, you can have cheap flights with Kuwait Air to Bangkok.... Anyway good luck in AC and have fun.
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint]I didn't really know which part of the Pattaya forum to post this. I have put it here. Maybe it will be moved. Maybe someone will complain and it will be deleted. Let's C.[/QUOTE]SM,
I don't post much but have to applaud your effort here. I see nothing to complain about. Maybe it belongs in Living in Thailand thread or something like that, but it could be a great cautionary tale for all the tourists who pass through here. You say what you write might not be for the Thai expat but I've lived here full time for 4 years and what I like about your report is that it puts the whole experience into one of the more realistic perspectives. It's not everyone's experience but it certainly is common. I have not had the rough time that you have but my alcohol use is fairly moderate. I've certainly had some bumpy times though.
The other thing it brings to mind is the long standing advice "do not fall in love".
My sincere best wishes for sorting this out and avoiding further heartburn.
C4T
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Newbie Here
Hey fellas first post for me here on isg. I am in the process of gathering as much information as possible for my maiden trip to Thialand. I have been to the Dominican Replublic for 12 trips and wanted a change of scencery. Has anyone here been to both countries and give me their opinion on the differences.
For what i have read so far, the puta's in Thialand seem more pleasing toward their customers as well as much cheaper.
Thank You in advance for your opinions.
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Cheers Mate
My normal mongering destinations are Pattaya, Bangkok & Jakarta. Since I have never been to AC on an adult holiday, I decided to give it a try...lol
So Pattaya is doing great....Good for them!!!!!
I will most probably make a trip to Pattaya towards the end of the year as there is a sweetie from the hotel that I normally stayed in emailing me regularly to update me on the situation in Pattaya and inquire when I am going again. Maybe this time I will stay at a different hotel and get her to stay with me.....hehehehe
So Mate enjoy your stay in Pattaya. Hope our path will cross one day.
Cheers,
Normad2020
[QUOTE=DG69]It's a pitty that you do not come to Pattaya instead. I am in Pat since 1st of May, business runs strong. Many tourists here at the moment and therefore also many girls. So, good selection, especially in the clubs. The prices are same like last July, though the THB is stronger, so one must change more Euro, Pounds or Dollar for the THB.
I wish you good luck in AC and if you don't like there, I would recommend you go to Manila. In Makati there are real stunner. I can recommend Royal Bellagio Hotel in Makati. Or, you can have cheap flights with Kuwait Air to Bangkok.... Anyway good luck in AC and have fun.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Goyave]. These pictures were only samples of what are cute girls in my book (not "stunners", but according to my own criteria, the first girl is an 8/10, second one a 7.5/10 and third one a 7/10).
I would say that, for me, most of the girls working in the "bush" are ranging from 2/10 to 4/10, but once in a blue moon, a 6/10 or 6.5/10 (again, according to my personal criteria) may be found in this area.[/QUOTE]Agree with 1st photo=7.5/10, can't give accurate range for photo #2 as its a more distant shot but face looks ok and nice bod, photo #3=7
Bushes range is about 0-3 in general and I'll definitely will have to go on a day of blue moon to see if a 6.5 exist there--he he.
Later pal.
Shark
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[QUOTE=Sharka]Agree with 1st photo=7.5/10, can't give accurate range for photo #2 as its a more distant shot but face looks ok and nice bod, photo #3=7
Bushes range is about 0-3 in general and I'll definitely will have to go on a day of blue moon to see if a 6.5 exist there--he he.
later pal.
Shark[/QUOTE]Scale sounds about right for me also for the photos.
Hey Shark, Don't need to wait for a blue moon to see a 6.5 at the bush area, just need to drink alot more than usual should do it.-ha
PT
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Pattaya
I had been in Pattaya, I would say, too many times. There is a hotel on 2nd st,. Inn, there was a cleck, young girl with a very nice ass. Last time I was there she agreed to come to my room, she never made it. I learned later that she had left, I was never able to meet her again.
I had never had a decent encounter with working girls in Pattaya, they were out to make money the faster the better. I had better luck at massage joints. I definitely had a better time in Chiang Mai, Siem Reap and of course Svay Pack!
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[QUOTE=Beaverhunter]Hey fellas first post for me here on isg. I am in the process of gathering as much information as possible for my maiden trip to Thialand. I have been to the Dominican Replublic for 12 trips and wanted a change of scencery. Has anyone here been to both countries and give me their opinion on the differences.
For what i have read so far, the puta's in Thialand seem more pleasing toward their customers as well as much cheaper.
Thank You in advance for your opinions.[/QUOTE]Been to LOS 6 times, but doing my first trip to DR this month. We should talk send me a PM..
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[QUOTE=Naked Gunz]Been to LOS 6 times, but doing my first trip to DR this month. We should talk send me a PM..[/QUOTE]I sent you a PM Gunz and forgot to mention I will be in the DR as well for 9 days at the end of this month. We definitely should talk.
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Apartment
Goyave,
Can I find a small clean aparrment with a/c, cable tv, fridge, hot shower and wifi at 4000 baht a month in Naklua?
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[QUOTE=Acunaway]Goyave,
Can I find a small clean aparrment with a/c, cable tv, fridge, hot shower and wifi at 4000 baht a month in Naklua?[/QUOTE]
Maybe, but it won't be easy to find, IMHO. In Northeastern Thailand, it would not be too difficult, but in Naklua, I guess that you will have to pay more (probably about 25 to 50% more), unless you are very lucky or know someone there who is kind enough to investigate this area for you beforehand.
I believe that Thai working girls would share this kind of apartment even if the rental rate is higher: 6000 baht/month for instance. Three girls would stay and pay 2000 baht per person monthly there.
By the way, even if I'm a frequent visitor and have many friends in this area, I'm not living in Pattaya, but in Northeastern Thailand, so, other ISG members may answer your question more accurately than me.
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[QUOTE=Acunaway]Goyave,
Can I find a small clean aparrment with a/c, cable tv, fridge, hot shower and wifi at 4000 baht a month in Naklua?[/QUOTE]
not in Naklua but try Nirun condo they are around 5000 bht a month
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[QUOTE=Acunaway]Goyave,
Can I find a small clean aparrment with a/c, cable tv, fridge, hot shower and wifi at 4000 baht a month in Naklua?[/QUOTE]As noted to you when it comes to Naklua you would have to go down further North away from all the action to find something within that range. If you are looking at something around the action like Soi 27, which I consider to be Apartment road you might want to give this place a try. But when you get down to these prices you are looking at pretty much the basics and WiFi isn't going to be around. Your basic no tub with everything in one as I call it bathroom.
Roylaung Apartment: 570/35 M.5 Pattaya Naklua Soi 27 Tel: (66) 038-370718 Fax: 038-411281 5,000 excluding water and electric.
S. Pornratchanee Apartment. 570/30 Moo 5 Soi Naklua 27 Tel: 038-370438
7,000 baht per month excluding water and electric.
Island Apartment: 571/111 Soi 25 Naklua, Moo 5, Email: [email]Island_apartment@hotemail.com[/email] Tel: 038-489155, 081-8509586, 081-6875015, Not sure but I think 7/8,000 baht
Good luck, LBM
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Pattaya trips
Having done almost quarterly visits to Pats over the last 3 years I am a bit jaded and find the place a bit too well discovered.
However to the newbies I would like to say that do pay a visit to Tony's disco on walking street definitely found the place better stocked than lucifers though if one doesn't want to be with arab and south east asian crowd you should avoid the place though being an Indian I was quite ok with the place
Picked up a cuti east time of Chinese origin though shes brought up in Thailand and claimed worked in Singapore karoeke bars and happended to be here for a holiday. Had one of my best GFE experiences with her for two nights forgot her name as ususal
People who care about cis do visit Mixx disco but most of the girls over priced and carry an attitute that they are paying you rather than the other way round but some hotties definitely to be found but Russian evans ick them up fast and language is a barrier
For some more exotic uzbeks you need to build contacts around the VC hotel area athad some lovely friendly girls over the years) but its hit and miss and the quality of street walkers are down from yester years
Wish you luck and happy hunting.
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[QUOTE=Samu Ray]I had never had a decent encounter with working girls in Pattaya, they were out to make money the faster the better. I had better luck at massage joints. I definitely had a better time in Chiang Mai, Siem Reap and of course Svay Pack![/QUOTE]
Hey Sam,
Actually, Pattaya is one of the best places for finding WL as to the shear overwhelming number of them there, just have to relax and be patient and a few will show up. Chiang Mai for me was mixed but ok, not as many WL and not as many cute ones there but sometimes will find the more avg looker or slightly above avg. and she will cling to you more than static clothes--happen to me twice there, may have to look at my very old reports to find the details. Siem Reap also was ok but the number of WL was not great but cheap enough though. And Svay P ?--didn't they close this place already or places to avoid.
Cheers
PT
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1st - APOLOGIES! NOT a mongering topic
As above I apologize for having to ask this - a non-mongering question - on here.
A few years back, a lot of people from Hong Kong (at the lead/behest of a few HKG show business celebrities) used to come down to Pattaya to consult with the "White Dragon King" monk. This monk supposedly has magical powers to cure terminally ill - especially cancer - patients.
I was one of the people who had reluctantly accompanied my S.O. and her cancer stricken Mother to try to find a cure for her. Whilst my mother in law DID survive for quite a bit longer period of time than even the most optimistic estimates by her doctor, she of course finally did succumb to the scourge.
Now I've got a pretty close friend of mine asking me about this White Dragon King and my opinion on him - for he's down with cancer too. I've asked around some of my celebrity friends - but they've basically all have been quite evasive in their replies or have actually been quite dismissive, calling him a con man instead.
The question to all you long time Pattaya residents:
- Have you heard about this guy?
- What is your opinion about him/his curative powers?
Realize that all this is pretty stupid/ridiculous for me to ask - especially here - but I don't really know anybody who's a resident in Pattaya and I do need to answer my friend one way or the other.
And even though IMHO, any and all "faith healers" are charlatan/con-men, yet I do know that if I was really ill, I'd probably also try out any and or all hopes for a cure. And in fact, I DID go down with my wife and her mom to consult this white Dragon King Monk.
Thank you all beforehand - and apologies - again - if anybody here thinks this post is out of line.
Peace
SEAJ
Ps. just did some searching and came to this full web site about the white Dragon King. Apparently, lot of believers and visitors from SE Asia [url]http://www.whitedragonking.com/aboutus.htm[/url]
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]... The question to all you long time Pattaya residents:
- Have you heard about this guy?
- What is your opinion about him/his curative powers?...[/QUOTE]
I'm not a Pattaya resident, but my thoughts about this kind of "curative powers" could be summarized in two words: [url="http://www.skepdic.com/placebo.html"]placebo effect[/url].
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[QUOTE=Goyave]I'm not a Pattaya resident, but my thoughts about this kind of "curative powers" could be summarized in two words: [url="http://www.skepdic.com/placebo.html"]placebo effect[/url].[/QUOTE]
As long as it helps, why not. We cheat ourselves in more and not so advantageous ways.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]I'm not a Pattaya resident, but my thoughts about this kind of "curative powers" could be summarized in two words: [url="http://www.skepdic.com/placebo.html"]placebo effect[/url].[/QUOTE]As long as the mind believes it can't hurt. Positive Attitude and mental thought is better then most drugs.
Can say the same thing about guys going to Pattaya. So they can be Handsum Men and give the girls Best Sex they every had. Then go home with the chests out thinking how great they are.
Half the world is a Placebo.
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I certainly don't think it's inappropriate to ask here, especially since you're trying to help out a very sick friend. You never know who might know something among our "diverse/perverted" group here;)
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Common Response
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]As above I apologize for having to ask this - a non-mongering question - on here.
][/QUOTE]
Let me help Jackson save some space and everyone some time by summarizing the next 20 posts on this subject:
"No problem posting here. Alternative treatment may or may not help but no harm. Placebo effect is possible. Good attitude and positive outlook important for health. Good luck to your friend. "
If anyone has real info about the white dragon guy which isn't in the link SEAsiaJoe provided, maybe a PM would be good.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Let me help Jackson save some space and everyone some time by summarizing the next 20 posts on this subject:
"No problem posting here. Alternative treatment may or may not help but no harm. Placebo effect is possible. Good attitude and positive outlook important for health. Good luck to your friend. "
If anyone has real info about the white dragon guy which isn't in the link SEAsiaJoe provided, maybe a PM would be good.[/QUOTE]
Thanks to all of you for your well meant responses.
And as per Slackerslacker, yes I am trying to get any and all information about this monk from you guys in Pattaya who do have further knowledge about him.
Again many thanks
SEAJ
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Anyone with time and experience to give summary please
Hi All,
Please correct me if I am wrong as I don’t have much experience in LOS. Thai girls are two types, one a bit darker or tanned and others pale like Chinese. I prefer Chinese type. Do they come from different parts of thailand?
I have been reading reports on Pattaya, I am overloaded with information now. I don’t know where to go, every street seems to have gogo bars, there are freelancers everywhere. I was wondering if anyone can help me to narrow down my choices so that I can focus. I will be in Pattaya for 8 days only.
1) Which GoGos do you recommend to visit? (sounds like bar fine rate varies, whats going rate?) I was in BKK for short time and found a cute girl outside NaNa and never went to GoGos. I don’t know if i would be comfortable when pushed to buy drinks. In Belgium, dam and germany its more direct, windows and stuff. GoGos is totally different world.
2) Where is the best place to find freelancers? Walking street or beech road? Or the both the same? I read somewhere that GoGo girls have regular health checks and hence less chance of STIs while freelancers are higher risk, how much truth is in this?
3) Where is the best place to play pool? Are there any places with live Jazz in Pattaya?
4) Are there any girls in Pattaya who like to stay longer time. Say if I like someone and ask her to be with me for 3-4 days, 24/7 is it possible? How much do they charge?
Thanking you in anticipation.
Mido
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Looking for a good massage
I'm trying to find a good massage parlour where I will get an incredible body massage followed by a good bj. I've researched and found many places. A couple years back I went to a massage parlour with a fish bowl. I proceeded to pick the best looking girl(according to my taste) and we went to the room with our bath products and what not. The massage was uneventful and then she wanted extra money to finish me off. Needless to say I was disappointed. I can't remember the name of the place, it was on Walking street, tucked in one of the corners past a few of the gogo bars. I remember one of the gogos had girls in school uniforms or something. This was in 2008 so I presume many things have changed since then. If anybody has any wise advice, let me know.
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Thanks to all of you for your well meant responses.
And as per Slackerslacker, yes I am trying to get any and all information about this monk from you guys in Pattaya who do have further knowledge about him.
Again many thanks
SEAJ[/QUOTE]No need to apologize, if you can't ask something like this in the Pattaya Report Thread we are all in trouble. As least you are starting a dialogue about something in Pattaya instead of posting a counter punch about nothing.
I have been to many Temple throughout China and Thailand, Not knowing much about the White Dragon but I have heard of it, and looking at the picture I might have even been there. But from my experience to Temples and I'm sure they are a fine organization that seem to help people I don't put them in the same catagory as the Temples that have Monks that have delicated their life to their god. The White Dragon gives me the impression that are just a well oil money making machine that can afford to build their own Temple but not too much different than the Palm Reader that lives across the Soi from me.
Each years he throws a huge party. Over 1 thousand come all wearing white to eat drink and dance for 2/3 days. They all carry a white envelope with donations to this guy. Is he a Monk, I think not... he knows I know he is a Fake and he knows it! He has a grasp of life that's it! He even runs his own lottery and people claim he can pick the right numbers but when one of my wife friends won he couldn't pay up. Each year he makes and clears 400,000 baht from his party, pays off the real Monks that come, Police, and Politicians to make it show of it. But skips out on the bill for the local food vendors!
Is the White Dragon like him not 100% sure but I have them in the same catagory as the guy above. Especially if they have a reputation of being able to heal someone!
Now does that mean if I was dying of cancer and had a illness I would refuse to go to him? Hell no! I'm human, a Hypocrite! If making a few baht as a donation and it works I would be stupid not to try everything to keep LBM alive and going down Soi 6 I would do it. Rather than medical science cutting me up, going through radiation treatment leaving me unable to get it up and having to live here I might as well be dead especially after you get the hospital bill. So what's left, places like the White Dragon far cheaper and in the end it makes you feel better that allows you to live a few months longer who cares what I think!
I kind of stretch this post to make a point and that anything and everything related in Pattaya can be written or ask on this thread even the stupid request to stay within the rules reply!
LBM
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[QUOTE=Mido31]
Please correct me if I am wrong as I don’t have much experience in LOS. Thai girls are two types, one a bit darker or tanned and others pale like Chinese. I prefer Chinese type. Do they come from different parts of thailand?
[/QUOTE]
Results may vary but I think darker = mostly from the Northeast region or very south. Lighter skin seemes to be from Chang Mai or Northern region.
[QUOTE=Mido31]
1) Which GoGos do you recommend to visit? (sounds like bar fine rate varies, whats going rate?) I was in BKK for short time and found a cute girl outside NaNa and never went to GoGos. I don’t know if i would be comfortable when pushed to buy drinks. In Belgium, dam and germany its more direct, windows and stuff. GoGos is totally different world.
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Iron, Happy A Go Go, Diamond, Angel Witch, What's UP... but if you go down walking street you might want to visit every single gogo because they're all in one area. Up near Soi Bukhao/LK Metro there's Champagne and Oasis.
[QUOTE=Mido31]
2) Where is the best place to find freelancers? Walking street or beech road? Or the both the same? I read somewhere that GoGo girls have regular health checks and hence less chance of STIs while freelancers are higher risk, how much truth is in this?
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The beach road has many FL. Walking Street has some too but they seem to be more dressed up. If you're a late night guy you can hit the discos after 2 and find FL that sometimes are off work from the gogos and beer bars
[QUOTE=Mido31]
3) Where is the best place to play pool? Are there any places with live Jazz in Pattaya?
[/QUOTE]
Pool, near Good Fellas. Tons of pool tables outside. No idea on Jazz.
[QUOTE=Mido31]
4) Are there any girls in Pattaya who like to stay longer time. Say if I like someone and ask her to be with me for 3-4 days, 24/7 is it possible? How much do they charge?
[/QUOTE]
It's possible to find a girl that will do this, the cost depends on the girl. Some will charge you a daily rate + bf, FL will charge you a daily rate. Depends on the situation, and I know my answers weren't the greatest but I hope they helped you out a little.
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[QUOTE=Mido31]Hi All,
I have been reading reports on Pattaya, I am overloaded with information now. I don't know where to go, every street seems to have gogo bars, there are freelancers everywhere. I was wondering if anyone can help me to narrow down my choices so that I can focus. I will be in Pattaya for 8 days only.
Mido[/QUOTE]8 days is a fairly long time, why not having a look also out of the beaten track? I have been here for 9 days and mainly hang out in WS, soi 7/8 and sometimes in soi 6. However I found two real gems in soi Naklua and soi 3 and I saw some hot girls in Soi Diana too.
[QUOTE=Mido31]Hi All,
1) Which GoGos do you recommend to visit? (sounds like bar fine rate varies, whats going rate?) I was in BKK for short time and found a cute girl outside NaNa and never went to GoGos. I don't know if I would be comfortable when pushed to buy drinks. In Belgium, dam and germany its more direct, windows and stuff. GoGos is totally different world.
Mido[/QUOTE]I like very much the Windmill in soi Diamond. It is not the typical bar a gogo as it focuses more on the interaction between girls and punters. Buying some ladydrinks here is practically mandatory.
The bar where I have seen the most beautiful girls is probably the first one on the left when you enter in soi diamond from the Walking street (New Star a gogo?). This bar is rater small but most of the girls are in topless and indeed have something interesting to show. A negative point here is that the mamasan is a bit pushy about drinks and in offering the short time room upstairs with one of the girls.
I have seen some real beauties also at shark and superbaby/supergirls. Shark is often empty though.
The barfines in general vary from the 600 to the 1000 thb. The latter applies in some bars early in the evening or if you want to take a showgirl. The rule is however 600 bht and there is no problem at all to ask in advance.
[QUOTE=Mido31]Hi All,
4) Are there any girls in Pattaya who like to stay longer time. Say if I like someone and ask her to be with me for 3-4 days, 24/7 is it possible? How much do they charge?
Mido[/QUOTE]sure. However if you want to stay several days with a gogo girl, be ready to open you wallet. The barfine is rather expensive and these girls are used to get a lot of tips and ladydrinks. 600 + 2500 bht a day may be sufficient even if I would consider this amount as a minimum at least in the busy bars.
Different story if you find a nice girl from a beer bar, especially out of the crowded areas. One of the gems I reported above stayed with me for 3 nights for 3000 bht overall. As she gets no salary from her bar I paid only the first barfine. We're talking here of a 21 year old first quality girl, so once again I would like to stress the importance not to focus only on the busiest areas.
Well, hope this helps.
Enjoy your holiday and please report about your findings.
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Pattaya accommodation
Thanks for your replies, sir.
Actually I want a quiet area since I don't like nightlife that much.
So you recommend Naklua or Jomtien or Carrefour area?
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Mido31,
For Jazz, try the Jazz Pit on Soi 5, in Central Pattaya near the Big C, since your at Soi 5, don't forget Soi 6?
LBM
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Mido31,
Where you start depends on where are you staying in Pattaya?
I'd just start at the north end of beach road and go up and down each Soi. Eight days is plenty of time to have fun n Pattaya. After a few days, you know what's up in Pattaya. Baht busses are a great deal for getting around and you can go anywhere, in town, for 10 baht.
In my experience, Gogo girls mostly want to ST(short time). Meaning after you bust a nut, they get paid and leave. That's because they want to get as many customers as they can. Beer bar girls often are looking to LT with you as it is more money and you have an air con room. They may not have as many opportunities for ST, like the Gogo girls. I think they offer the best value as compared to Gogo girls. IMHO often the Gogo girls are better looking, with better bodies than the average Beer Bar FL out there. Looks and body don't always mean you'll have a good time, because often they have an attitude. I've had better experiences with FL girls than Gogo girls.
Sometimes, you may just want to fuck a gorgeous Gogo "model type"....
While hunting, try to find a girl that seems easy going and you'll probably have a great time with her.
Good Luck!
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[QUOTE=Mido31]... Please correct me if I am wrong as I don’t have much experience in LOS. Thai girls are two types, one a bit darker or tanned and others pale like Chinese. I prefer Chinese type. Do they come from different parts of thailand?[/QUOTE]
There is a lot more than only two ethnic groups in Thailand. Read here (for instance): [url]http://www.onlychaam.com/thailand-ethnic-groups.php[/url]
But even when they come from the same town or village, some Thais are darker than others just because they've been more often outside (working in a rice-field in their youth for instance) under the hard sun than those with a fairer complexion.
[QUOTE=Mido31]... 1) Which GoGos do you recommend to visit? (sounds like bar fine rate varies, whats going rate?) I was in BKK for short time and found a cute girl outside NaNa and never went to GoGos. I don’t know if i would be comfortable when pushed to buy drinks. In Belgium, dam and germany its more direct, windows and stuff. GoGos is totally different world.[/QUOTE]
Many reviews are available on the web about Pattaya go-go bars. Besides ISG reports, you might want to read what is written here (for instance): [url]http://www.thai-anxiety.com/gogo.asp[/url]
[QUOTE=Mido31]2) Where is the best place to find freelancers? Walking street or beech road? Or the both the same? I read somewhere that GoGo girls have regular health checks and hence less chance of STIs while freelancers are higher risk, how much truth is in this?[/QUOTE]
Freelancers may be found almost everywhere in Pattaya, but yes, the most obvious pickup locations are Beach Road, Walking Street and discos.
About health checks, you should read what I wrote earlier here: [post]1015827[/post]
More over, you should be aware that most local P4P girls (freelancers, bar girls, go-go girls, etc.) have a Thai boyfriend or husband with whom they usually fuck (bareback) on a daily basis. You should read an [url="http://www.links.net/vita/swat/course/prosthai.html"]old but very interesting study[/url] that says (among other things about prostitution in the Land of Smiles):
- [i]"... A survey of military conscripts from the north of Thailand yielded that 73% of them lost their virginity with a prostitute and 97% regularly visit prostitutes..."[/i]
- [i]"... The majority of Thai men have their first sexual experience with a prostitute - the act is often a part of high school and university hazing rituals - and 95% of all men over 21 have slept with a prostitute."[/i]
- [i]"... Men are supposed to be promiscuous... Indeed, a survey of both sexes by the Deemar Corporation in 1990, bore out that 80% of males and 74% of the females responded that it was natural for men to pursue sex at every opportunity."[/i]
And if you believe that Thai men always use a condom when they fuck around, [url="http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=78872"]think again[/url]!
- [i]"... Only about 25 percent of young men report using condoms when engaging in casual or risky sex, often because they do not view sex with other young people as risky."[/i]
I wrote it earlier: your best protection against most troubles in Thailand is your common sense, not a bar fine... despite what certain bar and club owners would say or write on their website! And even a recent HIV/STDs test result does not mean much (as explained in my earlier report) in Thailand. If you worry about your health, you should always use a condom and use it properly. Bring your own condoms and store them properly if you are not sure to find something convenient for you here.
You should read this report too: [post]1002906[/post]
If you request that the reception makes a courtesy call to your room before letting your "guests" leave your hotel, you should not have any problem with the girls, freelancers or not. Tip the security and reception staffs (a couple of one hundred baht banknotes should suffice) at least when you check-in and they will certainly be of great help during your stay.
In more than 11 years of mongering in this country, I've been mostly with freelancers and girls working in local brothels and never have had a single problem so far. I am not alone in this case. Sure, one has to take certain minimal precautions in order to avoid trouble in this country, but it's not that difficult, again, with a bit of common sense.
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Russian / causasian
Dear Friends,
Please can anyone let me know if I can expect some Russian or caucasian girls in Bangkok or Pattaya. I am coming Bangkok for 10days and wish to make it the best xperience of my life. This is probably my first as well as last visit to Bangkok. Any link to escort agency wherein I can find russians is highly appreciated.
Once again please help.
Regards,
LB
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[QUOTE=Mido31]Hi All,
Please correct me if I am wrong as I don’t have much experience in LOS. Thai girls are two types, one a bit darker or tanned and others pale like Chinese. I prefer Chinese type. Do they come from different parts of thailand?
Mido[/QUOTE]
If you are referring to being born light skin or naturally darker skin (not tanned?), then the general answer is yes. So in general (although not 100% true all the time), the further north you go in LOS the lighter the skin color, the further south you go, the more tendency for being born with darker skin. Please only take this as a general statement as parent skin colors--remember there are alot of ethnic Chinese living in LOS, genetics etc all plays a part.
Shark
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]
"White Dragon King" monk. This monk supposedly has magical powers to cure terminally ill - especially cancer - patients.
The question to all you long time Pattaya residents:
- Have you heard about this guy?
- What is your opinion about him/his curative powers?
Realize that all this is pretty stupid/ridiculous for me to ask - especially here - but I don't really know anybody who's a resident in Pattaya and I do need to answer my friend one way or the other.
[url]http://www.whitedragonking.com/aboutus.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Hey SeaJ,
Happy to hear from you, never thought you ever leave the Cn threads.
1)I've heard of the guy in question--although I admit never met him in person. I asked around a little with a few members who frequent LOS, including Phantomtiger2 and some have heard of this guy but also nothing positive to say about him either. Bottom line: One of my friends -currently living there, said he knew of a sick family member who visited him several years ago but he's currently dead--so, this tells me all I needed to know.
2)don't worry about asking off mongering topics, no harm done. It is in my opinion that if someone knows the answer then you will get a reply. and others who don't like the question need not answer.--IMO
Shark
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To Pattaya or Not to Pattaya
Finally have an opportunity to come to LOS in a few weeks, this would be third trip. First two trips were both Bangkok and general tourist stuff. Never been to Pattaya and think maybe now is a good time to check it out. Straight from the airport. Given the hostilities. But I have a major hesitation that maybe you guys can help me with. I'm much more interested in super petite young stunners, than I am in value, which is why I've always opted for Bangkok. Research on the forum suggests if you're focused on that, then BKK is the way to go. But I'm wondering if there's support for the theory that super petite young stunners are also available in Pattaya, and how much harder are they to find compared to Nana and Cowboy in BKK. What do you guys think?
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My first 3some
Jenny (or is it Jeni ?) is someone i had taken in one of my earlier trips - she epitomises a classic short time trip girl - fun to be with just for an hour maybe (not great english skills) loves to flaunt her ass holding the table and a good fuck - she is acually a 7 in terms of look so guys not a bad deal for a short time proposition
Now last time i was in LOS with some pal of mine i had a threesome in mind and my best buddy was also game for it and i couldn't think of a better girl than jenny to lay anchor - so met jenny and discussed the idea - first she tried selling me the opposite idea that i take her and her friend together which i obviously excused myself and covinced her on my plan - that day may have been a bit slow so she ageed @ 2k bahts obviously short time for 3some. So off we went to the hotel and jenny started her "ass show" as is customary for her - its actually quite a sexy way in which she displays her ass seductively. Off with the show and i take the initiative to start the proceedings of the day by kissing/ touching etc. Once jenny and i are settled down with our clothes off and continue with our foreplay my pal joins the party and the whole thing got quite steamy.
there was a point when jenny was rubbing her pussy on my cock and my friend attending her from behind (jenny's holes are not plugged by either of us at this point) and it was ordained that i will take the pussy and my friend the backdoor - it suddenly dawned on me that with the dim light in the room and the steamy ambience there could be an outside chance that my friend could make the wrong back door entry as we were all hudlled together and in the heat of the moment one may not realise which hole he is getting into and i for one was not at all willing to risk my ass hole - so told my pal - buddy take care dont take my ass - thats it - the moment i said it - all 3 of us started laughing so badly that it became a comedy show rather than a sex show. My friend couldn't get back his erection after that at all and while i still went on to fuck jenny (i like to fuck her) alone my friend couldnt just fuck that night even though jenny was kind enough to offer him a personalised session.
So guys while my precaution saved my asshole but my first 3some ended in a disaster due to this overcautionary attitude of mine.
incase anyone wants jenny's contact just pm me (remember only for short time)
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[QUOTE=Mong1225]Finally have an opportunity to come to LOS in a few weeks, this would be third trip. First two trips were both Bangkok and general tourist stuff. Never been to Pattaya and think maybe now is a good time to check it out. Straight from the airport. Given the hostilities. But I have a major hesitation that maybe you guys can help me with. I'm much more interested in super petite young stunners, than I am in value, which is why I've always opted for Bangkok. Research on the forum suggests if you're focused on that, then BKK is the way to go. But I'm wondering if there's support for the theory that super petite young stunners are also available in Pattaya, and how much harder are they to find compared to Nana and Cowboy in BKK. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
Because of what you are asking for I would go for Manila or A instead.
PB
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[QUOTE=Mong1225]Finally have an opportunity to come to LOS in a few weeks, this would be third trip. First two trips were both Bangkok and general tourist stuff. Never been to Pattaya and think maybe now is a good time to check it out. Straight from the airport. Given the hostilities. But I have a major hesitation that maybe you guys can help me with. I'm much more interested in super petite young stunners, than I am in value, which is why I've always opted for Bangkok. Research on the forum suggests if you're focused on that, then BKK is the way to go. But I'm wondering if there's support for the theory that super petite young stunners are also available in Pattaya, and how much harder are they to find compared to Nana and Cowboy in BKK. What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
Shouldn't be a problem as most ladies in asia seems "petite" to me to begin with. The sheer number of WL in Patts will almost guarantee you will find any woman or any size you seek.
Have fun
Shark
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Thanks pics bike
Thank you Scout, Frazer, LBM, NoCBJ, Goyave & Shark for posting replies. I am planning to keep diary and would post newbie’s experience.
I am a bit confused about the scoring system being used by guys for looks and body, is it possible to standardise? My friend and I went to Belgium, BKK and Aus. We both have very different choice. I would try to upload pics if girls let me take, how much do they charge for pics.
I used motorbike for years but have not ridden a scooter. Can you rent a bike in Pattaya? Scooter has gears in hand but bike has gear paddle. Anyone knows a good area where I can rent bike and is it safe (thefts etc, do I get insurance)? usual rent?
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BKK to Pattaya
Because of all this unrest I was thinking about going to Pattaya directly from the airport instead of staying in BKK first as usual because I am getting paranoid about the news reports of the violence. I have never left to Pattaya straight from the airport to pattaya especially at 11:30 pm is this safe to do?
Much Thanks,
JohnnieB
P.S. to Mongo....you can find any type of girl you are looking for in Pattaya
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red shirt
[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]Because of all this unrest I was thinking about going to Pattaya directly from the airport instead of staying in BKK first as usual because I am getting paranoid about the news reports of the violence. I have never left to Pattaya straight from the airport to pattaya especially at 11:30 pm is this safe to do?
Much Thanks,
JohnnieB
P.S. to Mongo....you can find any type of girl you are looking for in Pattaya[/QUOTE]To Johnnie,
Did you see any red shirt or protest at Pattaya at all ,I heard there are some small protest but not at the toutrist area but near rangyong .
Fast eddie 48
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[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]... I have never left to Pattaya straight from the airport to pattaya especially at 11:30 pm is this safe to do?[/QUOTE]
At 11:30 pm, it's too late for the bus, but you might want to book a private taxi, for instance, with one of the companies mentioned here: [post]1018102[/post]
You may also find a regular taxi at the airport (just follow the "taxi' signs, don't listen to the touts!) even at 11:30 pm. Their rate is approximately the same than with private taxi services, but their cars are usually not as recent and their drivers not always as careful than with the private companies.
Anyway, you should have a phone number with you then to contact your hotel, so, if the driver does not know exactly where your hotel is located, he will be able to contact someone at your hotel in order to get directions in Thai (it's better than to give your driver a map, according to my own experience, as many Thais don't know how to read a map apparently!). You should also notify in advance the hotel staff about your late arrival.
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what if
[QUOTE=Goyave]At 11:30 pm, it's too late for the bus, but you might want to book a private taxi, for instance, with one of the companies mentioned here: [post]1018102[/post]
You may also find a regular taxi at the airport (just follow the "taxi' signs, don't listen to the touts!) even at 11:30 pm. Their rate is approximately the same than with private taxi services, but their cars are usually not as recent and their drivers not always as careful than with the private companies.
Anyway, you should have a phone number with you then to contact your hotel, so, if the driver does not know exactly where your hotel is located, he will be able to contact someone at your hotel in order to get directions in Thai (it's better than to give your driver a map, according to my own experience, as many Thais don't know how to read a map apparently!). You should also notify in advance the hotel staff about your late arrival.[/QUOTE]Goyave,
What if thing get worst if the red shirt go to the airport and start protest there ,they will need to closed the airport and thing can get ugly fast ,but again might not be bad to get stuck in Pattaya for a few week but will be hard to expain that to your boss .
Fast Eddie 48
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[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]I have never left to Pattaya straight from the airport to pattaya especially at 11:30 pm is this safe to do?[/QUOTE]To me this is the best time to go. You arrive in Patts at 1am when all the action is going on so you hit the ground running and don't miss a beat. If you arrive in the morning, as I did last time, you have to wait until everything cranks up later on in the day.
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Pattaya Trip -- Safety/Hotel questions
Hi all,
I'm a very frequent traveler to AC and HK, but haven't been to Pattaya in 4 years.
Naturally, my first trip back is coinciding with the civil war. I arrive next Thursday night at BKK airport. From what I've seen, the Red Shirts don't seem likely to block the airport (they haven't done it yet, and the Yellow Shirts got a lot of flak for it last time), but I'm worried about this curfew they're thinking of announcing. Will this prevent me from getting away from the airport if I arrive at 11:30 pm? Will my driver be allowed to get in to pick me up?
I'm also wondering about the hotels in Pattaya; I've read in some places that a lot of farangs are leaving BKK for Pattaya, Phuket, and etc. for safety reasons. Does anyone have experience with hotels "losing" their pre-paid reservation because someone came who was willing to pay more? (I'm staying at Flipper Lodge).
Thanks for any advice people may have. If you want to meet up in Pattaya I'd be more than happy to share tips on the Philippines or Hong Kong for anyone interested.
~CA
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[QUOTE=JohnnieBravo]Because of all this unrest I was thinking about going to Pattaya directly from the airport instead of staying in BKK first as usual because I am getting paranoid about the news reports of the violence. I have never left to Pattaya straight from the airport to pattaya especially at 11:30 pm is this safe to do?
Much Thanks,
JohnnieB
P.S. to Mongo....you can find any type of girl you are looking for in Pattaya[/QUOTE]
JB
If you don't bring a lot of luggage you can go up to the departure level and try to get a taxi which has just dropped off passengers in the outer lane for 1000B. Or the easiest to take a taxi from the official taxi stands downstairs for a flat rate of 1500B (I did so 4 days ago). Also a lot of operators in Pattaya can pick you up for 1000-1200B if you book in advance.
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Last minute change of plans -Pattaya advice needed
Hi All,
All the unrest is making me change plans and think of heading straight to Pattaya instead of staying In BKK which I had planned to do.....
1. Thanks for advice already on getting a taxi direct from airport.
2. Suitable hotels? Is the Amari suites or Amari Orchid OK for location and OK for bringing a girl back. Since I am on holiday I prefer a bit of comfort and the prices right now are good - but any advice on hotels would be welcome.
I feel like I have to start all over again with research - so far have seen good advice on Pasadena Lodge but given the temperatures would like somewhere with a pool if possible.
Thanks for any help and stay safe with all the trouble.
Bubba
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Soi 6 prices
Gentlemen,
I need some advice concerning the present price structure on Soi 6.
ST rooms a mandatory 300 baht, right?
What do you guys pay for the girls ST?
I used to pay 700 baht but always had the impression I was either grossly over paying or under paying.
Is there such thing as a standard price these days?
Thanks.
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Coming to Pattaya.is it safe
Hi Guys,
I am arriving Bangkok on 25th may morning at 6 AM. However I am not sure if I should cancel my trip due to curfew and deteriorating situation in BKK. I was planning to stay in Bangkok for few hours and go to Pattaya in evening same day. However due to current situation in Bangkok I am planning to head to Pattaya from BKK airport itself. Last time I took a bus from airport and it was smooth. Not sure if I should take a bus again or take taxi. Please advise on if If I should come or cancel my trip and is it safe to take a bus in morning time or sould I take a taxi for Pattaya.
Thanks
Kp
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Goyave,
What if thing get worst if the red shirt go to the airport and start protest there ,they will need to closed the airport and thing can get ugly fast ,but again might not be bad to get stuck in Pattaya for a few week but will be hard to expain that to your boss...[/QUOTE]
It happened to a friend of mine in 2008 (that was the yellow shirts then who blocked the airport) and of course, he then said to his boss that he was visiting the cultural sites of Thailand and its neighboring countries. I copied hundreds of touristic pictures of Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam on several compact disks for him before he left the Land of Smiles and explained him briefly where the shots were taken. Apparently, it worked fine for him then! ;)
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[QUOTE=Bubba999]Hi All,
1. Thanks for advice already on getting a taxi direct from airport.
2. Suitable hotels? Is the Amari suites or Amari Orchid OK for location and OK for bringing a girl back. Since I am on holiday I prefer a bit of comfort and the prices right now are good - but any advice on hotels would be welcome.
Bubba[/QUOTE]Just got back from 13 days in Pattaya. Paradise.
1 [url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/[/url] (believe me, more comfortable than you may imagine.)
2 LK renaissance or Tim Boutique hotel booked through agoda.
Enjoy
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[QUOTE=Bubba999]... Is the Amari suites or Amari Orchid OK for location and OK for bringing a girl back...[/QUOTE]
I haven't checked the Amari Orchid recently, but a few years ago, it was not "girl friendly" and the "joiner fee" amounted 1000 baht per "guest" then!
You might want to have a look at the Marriott: [url]http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/pyxmc-pattaya-marriott-resort-and-spa/[/url] or Tim Boutique: [url]http://www.timboutiquehotel.com/[/url] (for instance): good location, swimming pool, and no joiner fee with these (5-star and 4-star respectively) hotels.
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[QUOTE=Bubba999]Hi All,
All the unrest is making me change plans and think of heading straight to Pattaya instead of staying In BKK which I had planned to do.....
1. Thanks for advice already on getting a taxi direct from airport.
Bubba[/QUOTE]
Mr T. Limousine service. I always use it. It's better to phone, they don't always answer emails.
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[QUOTE=El Frances]Mr T. Limousine service. I always use it. It's better to phone, they don't always answer emails.[/QUOTE]
It is one of the five private taxi services already mentioned earlier, for instance here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1018102#post1018102[/url]
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[QUOTE=El Frances]Mr T. Limousine service. I always use it. It's better to phone, they don't always answer emails.[/QUOTE]
I can vouch for Mr T's service. About the emails, I had to send two about one enquiry before getting a response, but have been impressed with the service overall.
btw, I've heard about rogue taxi drivers holding up Mr T signs at arrivals baggage claim exit and unsuspecting Mr T clients falling for this without verifying relevant ID's, and consequently being overcharged. Take care after your long flight.
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]I've heard about rogue taxi drivers holding up Mr T signs at arrivals baggage claim exit and unsuspecting Mr T clients falling for this without verifying relevant ID's, and consequently being overcharged.[/QUOTE]
LMAO. Very ingenious.
Welcome to Thailand ;)
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[QUOTE=Goyave]It happened to a friend of mine in 2008 (that was the yellow shirts then who blocked the airport) and of course, he then said to his boss that he was visiting the cultural sites of Thailand and its neighboring countries. I copied hundreds of touristic pictures of Thailand, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam on several compact disks for him before he left the Land of Smiles and explained him briefly where the shots were taken. Apparently, it worked fine for him then! ;)[/QUOTE]
It happened to me. Thankfully I had an understanding employer. Not sure I can use the excuse two times in a row. So instead of Pattaya/Bkk I'm changing to Pattaya/Phuket...atleast then if things go pear shaped I should be able to fly out of Phuket.
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Pattaya Status
Planning trip #15 to LOS. Can any of you who have visited (or are there) in the last few days comment on Pattaya and how it has been affected by the red shirt crisis? If it has been affected at all?
Are there more girls, less girls. More punters fleeing BKK, or less who aren't showing up in LOS. Any troops, security? General nervousness?
Thanks, Pattaya Tim
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[QUOTE=Pattaya Tim]Planning trip #15 to LOS. Can any of you who have visited (or are there) in the last few days comment on Pattaya and how it has been affected by the red shirt crisis? If it has been affected at all?[/QUOTE]At the present moment in time Pattaya is completely safe and there is not even a hint of the terrible events in BKK. Obviously the situation is fluid and the government's recent decision to impose a state of emergency in a further five provinces is an indication that there is concern the 'revolt/rebellion' could spread, but as to whether it will spread in Pattaya's direction remains to be seen.
It is the traditional low-season in Pattaya so its quite difficult, as a punter, to determine how significantly numbers are down. Judging by the glum faces behind the reception desk at my hotel, tourists numbers have plummeted.
On the upside, many many girls around and few customers. The word is that a lot of the P4P crown from Patpong and Sukhumvit have descended on Pattaya to escape the troubles and the motley tourist numbers in BKK.
Loads of girls (and katoeys) on the beach front in the evenings. Lots of action on Walking Street too.
I would have no hesitation in advising anyone to come to Pattaya which is absolutely safe.
Enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Pattaya Tim]Can any of you who have visited (or are there) in the last few days comment on Pattaya and how it has been affected by the red shirt crisis? If it has been affected at all?
[/QUOTE]
In case, you arrive at the airport and you go straight to Pattaya,
either by bus or taxi, you should be fine.
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=Pattaya Tim]
Are there more girls, less girls. More punters fleeing BKK, or less who aren't showing up in LOS. Any troops, security? General nervousness?
[/QUOTE]
Yah, how are things in Pat now? Is it a buyers market? Gogo girls down to 1000ST or lower yet? How about freelancers? They down to 300-400 ST?
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint]Not yet - the Navy are in town plus many people from Bkk.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying that the US or Brit Navy is in town for a port of call?
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint]Not yet - the Navy are in town plus many people from Bkk.[/QUOTE]
That sucks!!!!!!!
How long is the Navy there for?
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it's the US Navy and they are in for 2 or 3 weeks (at Sattahip I think)
It's what used to be Cobra Gold
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Thanks!
To Ekspat, Saint Mint and especially Doppel One:
Thanks for the updates! That was incredibly helpful. I knew the boys would still show up... you can't keep the punters down!
It all sounded wonderful, except for when the US Navy showed up!
Does anyone know when that 2-3 weeks of Navy will end? I'm due in town 5/27 I think. (I wonder if they're hanging around in case the PM needs their assistance.)
Thanks again. I'll buy a beer for anyone still around.
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I read a report they are in Phuket. It says it was the beginning of May though. If it was any big ships, they would announce it. It shouldn't be any different hopefully. If it was am Aircraft carrier though, that would be bad news.
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Sorry for the double post, I just read the report on them being in Satahip. It's an exercise between most of the military in Southern Asia. I believe it is a ground exercise so ships won't be pulling in. It's called CARAT(Cooperation afloat readiness and training) It's only 300 US and Thai Sailors and Marines. They finish the exercise on the 21st of May. They probably will get some days off after the conclusion of the exercise. I would not worry about them coming and pillaging the city. Nor should the prices raise for the ladies(hopefully). Like I said in the last post, If this was an Aircraft carrier or something big like that, then I would worry.
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Thanks!
[QUOTE=Breaknkng]It's only 300 US and Thai Sailors and Marines. They finish the exercise on the 21st of May. [/QUOTE]Thanks! You blokes are the best! I don't give a damn about the Red Shirts, but I don't want to run into the damned drunken navy.
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No Problem..
I was there in both Oct. And Feb. One of those times they were doing an exercise also. You could see some servicemen there. Mostly, they are accompnied by older gentlemen and I think many of them just walk around and look at the sites. I really don't think many partake. That was my impression.
I don't think it make one bit of difference in the availability of girls.
[QUOTE=Pattaya Tim]Thanks! You blokes are the best! I don't give a damn about the Red Shirts, but I don't want to run into the damned drunken navy.[/QUOTE]
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Hey Pattaya Tim,
I noticed we will be in Pats the same dates. If you want to meet up for a beer / mongering, let me know. Ill be there from the 27th to the 30th.
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Soi 6 500 ST
Is anyone getting pussy on soi 6 for 500ST? I can't get these whroes to come down on price!
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Bangkok situation is now affecting Pattaya too, many Massage Shops, 7-11s and bars are closed. Curfew is now effect for Pattaya too.
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Pattaya latest 19th May 2010
Seems I spoke too soon a few days ago when I said all was well in Pattaya.
Tonight, 19th May 2010, many of the entertainment joints and bars closed at 9:00 pm. Not sure whether its an (un) official curfew or just a general sense of nervousness about the possibility of angry Red Shirts heading to fun town after being booted out of BKK. Walking Street was pretty much shut when I wandered down there at 8:30 (though a number of a-go-gos were still in business, notably What's Up and Baby Dolls). By the time I got to Soi Buakoa around 9:00 everything (including the 7/11s!) was either shut or closing (though the night market was still going strong).
I expect the real facts will emerge over the next few hours and I'm sure this will be way out of date by the time it makes the message board.
On the upside, lots of confused looking girls wandering the streets looking for a home for the night.
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Not only 7-11's, all shops shall be closed from 8 pm to 6 am. Police is patroling and a friend told me red shirts have set fire on Big C, not sure if that info is true and what big C was meant. Could be 2nd road or sukhumvit.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Bangkok situation is now affecting Pattaya too, many Massage Shops, 7-11s and bars are closed. Curfew is now effect for Pattaya too.[/QUOTE]The red shirts have arrived in Pattaya and are burning barricades of tires in strategic points, the police told us. As a measure of precaution, a curfew was imposed. I was surprised that almost everything (including 7/11) was shut down within about 1 hour. No access to ATMs for the next 2 days they say.
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[QUOTE=DG69]Not only 7-11's, all shops shall be closed from 8 pm to 6 am. Police is patroling and a friend told me red shirts have set fire on Big C, not sure if that info is true and what big C was meant. Could be 2nd road or sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]I live in the middle of both Big C's. Don't think either are on fire at the moment. Can't see any smoke or hear any sirens. Big C North Pattaya did close at 17.00. All bars etc. should be closed. Think the fine for breaking the curfew is 1,200 US$.
Stay in and stay safe.
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Pattaya problem
Hey guys,
I just received sms from one of my girls in Pattaya stating about the spread of the the BKK problem to Pattaya and that I shouldn't come to Thailand now. Checked the forum and am shocked to learn the gravity of the situation. This is really getting worse and resembling a banana republic type case except if it prolongs for long what will happen to the hundreds of starving bananas that we are?
God help Thailand.
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Take it easy, things can only be worse.
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The Curfew seems over for now, Minimart is open, street vendors out, at least where I am. There is a thread about the curfew on Thaivisa, where one of the menbers has a police radio and no major incidents were reported as I read. Mainly rumours it seems.
I will get the hell out of here today. Things are too unpredictible.
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Please keep posting up to date information, coverage in NEWS is not good. I am planning to cancel my trip next month, but would decided next month depending upon how things are reported here and other forums.
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888]No access to ATMs for the next 2 days they say.[/QUOTE]
I heard a curfew will be imposed tonight in Pattaya too and that the banks will be shut for three days. Having said that I just used an ATM to withdraw funds, so they're still working (lets hope the same can be said for the girls).
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Thanks to All and Be Careful!
Thanks to all your bloakes for the on the spot reporting... Tiger 888, Primo Bolan, Dominos Dick, Saint Mint, DG69, Doppel One, Run Mann, Breaknkng, Redfield10, Ekspat. It was a grand help to know what's going on for real.
Be careful and get out of there. We will live to be punters another day, it's not worth getting injured!
Breaknkng, I would love to meet up with you, but it doesn't look like i will be going in the midst of this mess. In a few months, we'll grab a chang pitcher and hit walking street, i promise.
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[QUOTE=Mido31]Please keep posting up to date information, coverage in NEWS is not good. I am planning to cancel my trip next month, but would decided next month depending upon how things are reported here and other forums.[/QUOTE]
Ditto. I had just decided today to go to Pats in 2 weeks. If you guys at ground zero don't report anything positive I will have to divert to a less favorable destination.
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I hope everything gets better in 7 days. I already spent too much money for this trip. If I cancel this trip, I might die(inside).
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Quite likely that the curfew will continue tonight and perhaps into the weekend and beyond. All quiet on the western front right now, Maybe the calm before the storm?
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3 more nights of curfew
Latest reports indicate that the curfew will remain in place in Pattaya for another three nights. Thats Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
The logic of enforcing a nightly curfew is sound: restrict assembly and prevent the unrest from spreading. So while its a bore, I'm all in favour.
Let's hope this time next week everything will be back to normal!
At least in Patters you can get a decent takeaway to keep one's spirits up.
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Soi 6
Soi 6 is packed with punters. Business as usual down here.
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Went to the airport today and am back in Hong Kong. The bus ride was no problem at all (The bus from Jomtien, took 90 minutes). Just called a friend in Pattaya and heard that the curfew stared at 9pm again.
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[QUOTE=Pattaya Tim]Thanks to all your bloakes for the on the spot reporting... Tiger 888, Primo Bolan, Dominos Dick, Saint Mint, DG69, Doppel One, Run Mann, Breaknkng, Redfield10, Ekspat. It was a grand help to know what's going on for real.
Be careful and get out of there. We will live to be punters another day, it's not worth getting injured!
Breaknkng, I would love to meet up with you, but it doesn't look like i will be going in the midst of this mess. In a few months, we'll grab a chang pitcher and hit walking street, i promise.[/QUOTE]No problem Pattaya Tim. Curfew has just kicked in again. I'm in for the night with a crate of Heineken. Breaknkng plans to be here for a long weekend at the end of May, to write his long awaited first mongering report. If he is not around in a few months, to grab a chang pitcher with you & hit the Walking Street, I should still be here.
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint]If he is not around in a few months, to grab a chang pitcher with you & hit the Walking Street, I should still be here.[/QUOTE]Thanks SM, sounds like a plan. If PTY is as busy as you bloakes say, I may hit LOS after all, once curfew is lifted.
This curfew thing might not be so bad after all. Bring an Isaan honey back to your room by 8 pm for ST then... "sorry tirak, you can't go out until sunrise".
Thanks Thaksin!
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Arrived last night
Took a taxi with a crazy driver who made it in an hour! 1000 bhat.
Checked out the Flipper Hotel but found it dumpy for 1200 so checked out the Pattaya Queen around the corner and got a great romm, very large quiet air con for 800, I thnk it is normally double that.
Yes curfew is in effect but there were a few ladies around and at least near the hotel the beer bars were empty mostly with a few ladies in the shadows.
Some places had the shutters half open and a few cusomers inside. Went to one and had a couple of drinks with a very pretty spinner, a 9 in my books who spode perfect English. Took her out for 1500 overnight and 300 BF.
She was very sexy and really aimed to please but I didn't feel the connection. Two very difficult pops, one at night and then the morning breakfast.
I'm not sure if the Thai lady thing is going to work for me, I love the Latina passion, the Thais seem kind of hollow in comparison.
I'm going to get outa dodge as soon as I can- head to Kho Samui or maybe Sihanoukville in the opposite direction.
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Is It Safe To Be In Pattaya?
Hi everybody.
I am booked to reach Pattaya on 01st June . but going by whatever is happening in Thailand I am confused whether to make my trip or cancel it. I request members who are in Bangkok or Pattaya to kindly give their feedback as to do they feel things will be normal by 01st of June in Pattaya and Bangkok. Depending on their feedback I will make this trip or cancel it.
Thanks
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Is It Safe To Be In Pattaya?
I am booked to reach Pattaya on 01st of June. But going by whatever is happening in Thailand I am unsure if I should continue the trip or cancel it. I request senior members and members who are in Bangkok or Pattaya to give me a feedback regarding is it safe to reach Pattaya on 01st June and will things be normal by then. Depending on the feedbacks I receive I will decide whether to continue with this trip or cancel it.
Thanks
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Is It Safe To Be In Pattaya?
I am booked to reach Pattaya on 01st of June. But going by whatever is happening in Thailand I am unsure if I should continue the trip or cancel it. I request senior members and members who are in Bangkok or Pattaya to give me a feedback regarding is it safe to reach Pattaya on 01st June and will things be normal by then. Depending on the feedbacks I receive I will decide whether to continue with this trip or cancel it. How are things in Pattaya now on the beach road and walking street? Are there any incidents of arson in Pattaya till now? Are there any demonstrations. I wonder if the bank, atms and foreign exchange centres are working now?
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Curfew Canceled
At least in Pattaya according to owner of Champagne Agogo who just announced it in the bar.
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From Pattaya News
At 7pm on Friday Night we received information that the curfew has officially been lifted here in Pattaya. This follows a meeting held at Pattaya City Hall earlier on Friday where a number of business owners pleased to the Pattaya Mayor to get the curfew lifted which they felt was uneccesary as there was no intelligence suggesting that any riots or other disturbances would take place here in Pattaya.
Upon consultation with Police Leutenant General Asawin, the Region 2 Police Commander, the curfew in Pattaya was lifted, although it remains in force in other areas around Chonburi Province which remains under a State of Emergency. Whether, at this late hour, staff can be recalled to ensure that shops and entertainment venues can be opened on Friday Night is yet to be seen. We will provide more details on this important development on Saturday.
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Milk in the Red Sea
Despite the sea of red over the past few days I managed to find two milkers in Pattaya. They were not the prettiest but they were incredibly fun. The short one in the photos was a blast and frankly I have never seen a women shoot milk 5 feet or more across the room! Both ladies were dripping milk everywhere. Absolute fun. Anal from both, lots of photos an an overall great time for 1000 baht a piece(I always pay 1000 when they have milk, anal and photos-thats a bargain!).
I maintain contact with these girls even after the deed is done because the girls that have milk know the other girls that have milk. It has gotten as easy as a phone call for me now to find a new girl with milk.
Showdow
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Where Can I Find Them...
[QUOTE=Showdown]Despite the sea of red over the past few days I managed to find two milkers in Pattaya. They were not the prettiest but they were incredibly fun. The short one in the photos was a blast and frankly I have never seen a women shoot milk 5 feet or more across the room! Both ladies were dripping milk everywhere. Absolute fun. Anal from both, lots of photos an an overall great time for 1000 baht a piece(I always pay 1000 when they have milk, anal and photos-thats a bargain!).
I maintain contact with these girls even after the deed is done because the girls that have milk know the other girls that have milk. It has gotten as easy as a phone call for me now to find a new girl with milk.
Showdow[/QUOTE]Hey Showdow,
I would love to meet up with them two.
Can you pm me a number all a way to meet anew milk girl.
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Friday Night
Yes the curfew was lifted last night around 7 30. A pick up truck with massive speakers made it's way through town anouncing the end of curfew to large cheers as it went by. I was on Beach Road heading to Walking Street amongst a packed crowd, wondering how all this was going to clear out by nine when the truck went by.
Went to a go go on WS and met an Aussie who recommended we go over to Airport go go for the best show. They had a non stop shower and foam thing going on with very pretty young ladies, the prettiest in one place that I had seen since arriving. I was planning on just catching up on sleep but seeing all these cuties in their naked glory changed my mind and got me in the mood.
I was walking back to some of the beer bars near my hotel where I had met my previous nights lady, on Beach Road. Just the walk was overwhelming, so many women propositioning me-all types, young old skinny fat beautiful ugly.
I walked by one and she gave me a shy Thai smile and looked away. Bingo I thought and turned back and sat with her. Her name was Noy and she had a large bag with some clothes in it, said she had just arrived from Bangkok 2 hours ago. She said that she had left to try and make some money here as Bangkok was shut down.
I invited her out for some drinks and she was very happy to come with me. Noy was very pretty and looked to be around 20, with a Japanese look to her.
She told me that she worked at a Thai massage place in Bangkok (later she amitted that it was a sex massage place that caters to 98 per cent Japanese customers, hence the J look-very sweet and innocent). I said great I would love a massage.
We hit it off well, had a few drinks and lots of laughing. I really thought she might be a little too innoceont for a really good time. Boy was I wrong!
She was super horny and when I reached down after kissing for a few minutes she was soaking wet. She gave me a super massage with the baby oil we bought on the way to the hotel, great full body rub using her breasts and pussy. Hmm I was thinking, this girls pretty damm pro. The extreme rimming that followed confirmed that. The offering up of the ass left no doubt!
I'm not a huge anal fan but thought why not but alas I was too big to squeeze in her little ass. I had taken a Kiagra and was super rock hard and had full control so we ended fucking and frolicking for about 3 hours before I finally blasted. I was amazed that she was so wet the whole time, no extra lubrication needed. She either came various times or is an amazing actress.
We slept in each others arms, had sex during the night and once more before she left a couple of hours ago. Gave her all the cash I had left on me, she didn't seem at all concerned how much, it was about 1100 bhat. I could tell she would have liked to stay but for me variety is what its all about.
So I may give Pattaya another chance and stay a bit more. But right now I am totally spent. Will I be able to stay in and finally catch up on sleep or will I be tempted by one of the thousands of avialble ladies tonight?
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[QUOTE=Huevonn]
I'm not sure if the Thai lady thing is going to work for me, I love the Latina passion, the Thais seem kind of hollow in comparison.
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Welcome to Thailand!
If you can speak a bit of the language, you'll get a more GFE experience sometimes. Thais, in general, resent foreigners so this is probably what you're feeling. Maybe try more ST.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Thais, in general, resent foreigners[/QUOTE]I've lived among a whole lot of Thais over the past couple decades, and I'd say very few of them do. Prostitutes and pimps in Pattaya? Yeah, probably a lot of them do. Who can blame them?
[QUOTE=Huevonn]I'm not sure if the Thai lady thing is going to work for me, I love the Latina passion[/QUOTE]There's no lack of passion here, but the style is different, and a hardcore scene like most of Pattaya is not the place to go looking for it. You might want to try the Philippines, where there's still enough Latin influence that it'll feel more familiar.
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[QUOTE=Huevonn]....We hit it off well, had a few drinks and lots of laughing. I really thought she might be a little too innoceont for a really good time. Boy was I wrong!....
She was super horny and when I reached down after kissing for a few minutes she was soaking wet...... The extreme rimming that followed confirmed that. The offering up of the ass left no doubt!... so we ended fucking and frolicking for about 3 hours before I finally blasted. I was amazed that she was so wet the whole time, no extra lubrication needed. She either came various times or is an amazing actress....We slept in each others arms, had sex during the night and once more before she left a couple of hours ago....So I may give Pattaya another chance [/QUOTE]
Huevonn,
It sounds like you may have found the connection you were looking for, with that massage girl.
The first time I visited Thailand, I was always seeking out the stunners, but had more bad, than good experiences. I did have a few Model types that were fun, but more often than not, the sex was mechanical.
Later on, I became good friends with a forum member, The Traveler, who helped me see the value in carefully evaluating the girls attitude.
I believe scooping a good looking, easy going girl will give you a better chance of having a great night fun, than searching for a Model type, which often have a bad attitude.
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[QUOTE=Mido31]Thank you Scout, Frazer, LBM, NoCBJ, Goyave & Shark for posting replies. I am planning to keep diary and would post newbie’s experience.
I am a bit confused about the scoring system being used by guys for looks and body, is it possible to standardise?
I used motorbike for years but have not ridden a scooter. Can you rent a bike in Pattaya? Scooter has gears in hand but bike has gear paddle. Anyone knows a good area where I can rent bike and is it safe (thefts etc, do I get insurance)? usual rent?[/QUOTE]
1) As you may already suspect, the answer is NO to standard scoring as everyone looks at the same lady differently. Some like them thin while others like a little more flesh, some like light skin and other darker etc etc.
Case in point: I recently came back from a mongering vacation with fellow ISG member Phantomtiger (PT). There was one lady I thought was a 8.5 but PT didn't even look at her twice as he simply shrug his shoulders and said she was a 6.
Upside to not agreeing to the same scoring is never having to fight over the same woman.
2) Not sure on your question if you trying to rent a regular foot power bicycle or motorize scooter ?
Shark
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Is anyone getting pussy on soi 6 for 500ST? I can't get these whroes to come down on price![/QUOTE]
The simple answer is generally NO as there are 2 charges involved for Soi 6, one for the lady and another for the room, but they always lump the 2 together and comes out to about 700 or more (more if the lady insist on a higher fee for herself), but I said "generally" because it is possible to still get 500b as I've done it when you are a multiple repeat customer and the lady is willing to lower her own rate in the hopes that you keep cumming.
But the overall 500b days of Soi 6 is generally over as this was the avg rate about 2-3years ago.
Shark
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[QUOTE=Doppel One]
I used to pay 700 baht but always had the impression I was either grossly over paying or under paying.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Not over or under as this is about the going rate for FS on Soi 6 as of today (excluding tips of course)
Shark
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[QUOTE=Sharka]But the overall 500b days of Soi 6 is generally over as this was the avg rate about 2-3years ago.[/QUOTE]Agree but you can still pull half way decent girls for 500 baht for a quick one shot in your room BEFORE or after their work.
On Soi 6 itself lately there are some old / ugly / fat girls that will do you for 500 with the room fee added onto that so 800 total or so. But nothing I'd touch.
Most girls will take the 700 plus 300 room fee which is common but some bars are a higher room fee. Which makes it a flat 1000 on average.
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Pattaya next week
The unrest in BKK forced me to change plans to Pattaya so I've been doing a lot of new research from the board. Thanks to those who responded to my earlier post which helped me decide not to cancel the trip.
One thing that I am unsure of....I personally dislike ST rooms - I find them usually rather depressing and in BKK I always take the lady to my hotel... a taxi fare back for her is fine....but I get the impression that this is not the way it is done in Pattaya...I am staying at Tim Hotel which is fairly central I think so would like to avoid ST rooms - likely to be a problem?
Second, Can anyone recommend some bars "off the beaten track" that are worth visiting...so far I have "Gentleman's club" which a friend recommended strongly.
Finally In BKK I just stay away from the bars in Nana that I know are LB bars - but I get the impression that there are far more LB bars in Pattaya? Any strategies for avoiding this part of the nightlife.
Thanks again for your help
Bubba
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[QUOTE=Bubba999]The unrest in BKK forced me to change plans to Pattaya so I've been doing a lot of new research from the board. Thanks to those who responded to my earlier post which helped me decide not to cancel the trip.
One thing that I am unsure of....I personally dislike ST rooms - I find them usually rather depressing and in BKK I always take the lady to my hotel... a taxi fare back for her is fine....but I get the impression that this is not the way it is done in Pattaya...I am staying at Tim Hotel which is fairly central I think so would like to avoid ST rooms - likely to be a problem?
Second, Can anyone recommend some bars "off the beaten track" that are worth visiting...so far I have "Gentleman's club" which a friend recommended strongly.
Finally In BKK I just stay away from the bars in Nana that I know are LB bars - but I get the impression that there are far more LB bars in Pattaya? Any strategies for avoiding this part of the nightlife.
Thanks again for your help
Bubba[/QUOTE]I am planning my first trip to Pattaya and have the similar problem. I thought that best would be to find out where LB bars are and try to avoid them. The problem is that they are spread everywhere in Pattaya. During my search I found this map, it has all LB bars marked. So I am planning to avoid these bars and goto rest. Experienced members might be able to expand further.
Map of the bars to be avoided is attached.
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[QUOTE=Bubba999]The unrest in BKK forced me to change plans to Pattaya so I've been doing a lot of new research from the board. Thanks to those who responded to my earlier post which helped me decide not to cancel the trip.
One thing that I am unsure of....I personally dislike ST rooms - I find them usually rather depressing and in BKK I always take the lady to my hotel... a taxi fare back for her is fine....but I get the impression that this is not the way it is done in Pattaya...I am staying at Tim Hotel which is fairly central I think so would like to avoid ST rooms - likely to be a problem?
Second, Can anyone recommend some bars "off the beaten track" that are worth visiting...so far I have "Gentleman's club" which a friend recommended strongly.
Finally In BKK I just stay away from the bars in Nana that I know are LB bars - but I get the impression that there are far more LB bars in Pattaya? Any strategies for avoiding this part of the nightlife.
Thanks again for your help
Bubba[/QUOTE]Just returned from Pats today. Had a very nice weekend over there. The place is basically empty and many of the girls haven't had much action in the last week. So they are quite eager.
I recommend Heaven above and Babygirl Agogo. The only 2 places where I found 7s.
About avoiding LBs. I wouldn't know. When I see a good LB, I don't mind spicing up things down below
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[QUOTE=Mido31]I am planning my first trip to Pattaya and have the similar problem. I thought that best would be to find out where LB bars are and try to avoid them. The problem is that they are spread everywhere in Pattaya. During my search I found this map, it has all LB bars marked. So I am planning to avoid these bars and goto rest. Experienced members might be able to expand further.
Map of the bars to be avoided is attached.[/QUOTE]Kitten Club is a GG agogo (Soi 13/4)... Its Obsessions next door that is an LB joint.
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[QUOTE=Mido31]I am planning my first trip to Pattaya and have the similar problem. I thought that best would be to find out where LB bars are and try to avoid them. The problem is that they are spread everywhere in Pattaya. During my search I found this map, it has all LB bars marked. So I am planning to avoid these bars and goto rest. Experienced members might be able to expand further.
Map of the bars to be avoided is attached.[/QUOTE]
I love the idea of a newbie wandering around Pattaya with a map of the LB bars to avoid. For better or worse they are part of the show that is Pattaya. The ones in the bars are not going to be any concern, simply dont go in those bars if you arent interested. Along Walking Street and Beach Road there are particular sections where the LBs tend to congregate. Many of them are over the top and therefore pretty obvious. Others are more sweet and demure and may well fool you for a few minutes.
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[QUOTE=Mido31]I am planning my first trip to Pattaya and have the similar problem. I thought that best would be to find out where LB bars are and try to avoid them. The problem is that they are spread everywhere in Pattaya. During my search I found this map, it has all LB bars marked. So I am planning to avoid these bars and goto rest. [/QUOTE]Dude. You don't have to actively avoid LB bars. LBs are everywhere anyway. Like Greg said they are part of the show. If you don't like a bar just don't go in it. Just be sociable. They are regular people. You will see them outside of the bars talking shit and being playful. Just have a good time. It doesn't mean you have to fuck them.
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[QUOTE=Huevonn]I thought and turned back and sat with her. Her name was Noy and she had a large bag with some clothes in it, said she had just arrived from Bangkok 2 hours ago. She said that she had left to try and make some money here as Bangkok was shut down.
She told me that she worked at a Thai massage place in Bangkok (later she amitted that it was a sex massage place that caters to 98 per cent Japanese customers, hence the J look-very sweet and innocent). I said great I would love a massage.
?[/QUOTE]Hi,
Do you have her num? I at Pattaya now alone, might going to Bangkok tomorrow after curfew and might look for her as well!
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I've seen a lot of Lb's in my day. I mean a LOT. I take pride in my ability to spot them from blocks away. If I had any advice to give, It would be that if she(he) is a working girl(boy), 90 percent of the time you can just ask them right out if they are a Lb or not. It's hard to do if they aren't working and are just looking for some love. I got smacked last night in Tokyo for that. Not because she wasn't an Lb, but because she was shocked that I knew. Anyways to follow up on my advice, after they tell you if they are or aren't you can always just tell them to leave. I remember my first time in Pats. I picked a girl that I thought was a girl, went upstairs for the ST and half way through my bbbj, I wondered why she wasn't taking off her bottoms. I was only about 20 at the time, so I proceeded to rant about how I wanted a real girl, while walking naked around the lobby of the hotel. Eventually they brought a real girl. I guess I got lucky. Morale of the story is just ask, and more than likely you will get the info you want.
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Thanks guys...
Yeah what you say is true - respect everyone and don't fuck those you don't want to ...good advice in all parts of life!
Cheers
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I love the idea of a newbie wandering around Pattaya with a map of the LB bars to avoid. For better or worse they are part of the show that is Pattaya. The ones in the bars are not going to be any concern, simply dont go in those bars if you arent interested. Along Walking Street and Beach Road there are particular sections where the LBs tend to congregate. Many of them are over the top and therefore pretty obvious. Others are more sweet and demure and may well fool you for a few minutes.[/QUOTE]
That's what I did three years ago on my first visit to LOS. I went straight to Pattaya. Beforehand I compiled a list of LB bars to avoid (all in alphabetical order) for quick reference.
Needless to say that it didn't work out quite like that. The place is so large and dense with bars that there are too many omissions from websites.
Mai pellai!! I still had a wonderfully crazy time!
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Lady Boys
I remember the first time I was fooled by a LB.
I was so grossed out that I almost couldn't come!
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[QUOTE=Sharka]
But the overall 500b days of Soi 6 is generally over as this was the avg rate about 2-3years ago.
Shark[/QUOTE]
Yah, I was getting that impression on my last visit. A lot of the girls were aiming for 1000ST +room 300 = 1300ST, but i managed to get the hot chicks to all go for 700. I think some of the older stock would agree on 500ST, but I don't go for those types.
It's unfortunate, but I keep seeing prices rise in Pattaya with quality dropping every time I visit. It's still good and fun, but it requires a lot more work/hunting than before.
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Wow really? I've never paid 1000ST plus 300 bf on soi 6. Was there last month and it was still 700 + 300. Some may even go as low as 500. No way would I pay 1000 for ST on Soi 6.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Yah, I was getting that impression on my last visit. A lot of the girls were aiming for 1000ST +room 300 = 1300ST, but i managed to get the hot chicks to all go for 700. I think some of the older stock would agree on 500ST, but I don't go for those types.
It's unfortunate, but I keep seeing prices rise in Pattaya with quality dropping every time I visit. It's still good and fun, but it requires a lot more work/hunting than before.[/QUOTE]
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That was a joke, my last post btw.
Having a blast.
Checked out the infamous Baaby Dolls go-go. Not my scene really. Guys getting blow jobs in the corner, girls vigorously dildo fucking each other on stage, etc. But I guess I had to see it.
To all of the Pattaya regulars: Do most of the pletohora a thai massage places offer extras? I went to one today and got the 300 oil massage and she did a nice HJ and I gave her a 300 tip. It was a very good rub and a decent tub, but she indicated that she was in no way going to give a blow job. I feel like a bit of a fool walking around and asking if BJ's are on the menu. I am talking about the normal places with fully dressed women out front, not the soapies which I will go to tommorow.
Dream Teens is what I'm considering. Any other recommendations?
I went to one about 15 years ago and had the best body rub of my life, my first time in a full soapy. That was back when women still had pubic hair and the highlight of the session was her using the scrub brush nateure had endowed her with to clean my whole body. She was really talented with that thing.
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]Wow really? I've never paid 1000ST plus 300 bf on soi 6. Was there last month and it was still 700 + 300. Some may even go as low as 500. No way would I pay 1000 for ST on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]
Yah, I was pretty surprised that they would even open up with such a high price. This happened at 3 different bars. I countered with 500ST for all of them and settled on 700. I guess once in awhile they get a guy who'll take the bait.
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This thread started by Clap Trap???
Just noticed that this thread was "started" by Clap Trap" - at least that's what I see on the Thailand list.
And Clap Trap is just a 7 post regular member only - plus I see that he really didn't seem to have started this thread with the first post.
Wonder why/just curious
SEAJ
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[QUOTE=Huevonn]That was a joke, my last post btw.
Having a blast.
Checked out the infamous Baaby Dolls go-go. Not my scene really. Guys getting blow jobs in the corner, girls vigorously dildo fucking each other on stage, etc. But I guess I had to see it.
To all of the Pattaya regulars: Do most of the pletohora a thai massage places offer extras? I went to one today and got the 300 oil massage and she did a nice HJ and I gave her a 300 tip. It was a very good rub and a decent tub, but she indicated that she was in no way going to give a blow job. I feel like a bit of a fool walking around and asking if BJ's are on the menu. I am talking about the normal places with fully dressed women out front, not the soapies which I will go to tommorow.
Dream Teens is what I'm considering. Any other recommendations?
I went to one about 15 years ago and had the best body rub of my life, my first time in a full soapy. That was back when women still had pubic hair and the highlight of the session was her using the scrub brush nateure had endowed her with to clean my whole body. She was really talented with that thing.[/QUOTE]Did a double at dream teen about three years ago, what i recall most was girls 5-7 in looks, no choice- you get who they give, extremely high price (higher than any other deal in all of thailand (pattaya and bangkok) that i visited and the service no good. It was my one and only turn off the entire trip. The girls over did the oil tug after a 10 in bad massage to the point that they had to paper towel me to death before and in between blowjobs , it was so terrible i had zero urge to even get it up for the fs. Even the double blow was the worst ever. They had to keep stopping for the papertoweling of the excess oil. I just stopped them after 35 min and paid half of the agreed price and left since i didnt lay either one of them. They too approved knowing well it was a terrible session. If correct I think i paid out 1000 baht each (that was the half price for a terrible massage and bbbj). Immaturity, lack of experience was just a major turn off. Hate to speak negatively about anything but this one was not worth the walk from soi 6. I really started to leave when they claimed no choice but one girl was a young 8 in looks so i stayed, wouldve been better off going with my first mind.
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]Wow really? I've never paid 1000ST plus 300 bf on soi 6. Was there last month and it was still 700 + 300. Some may even go as low as 500. No way would I pay 1000 for ST on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]
Last trip in January paid 700+300 for soi 6 did get the odd one for 500 but I wouldn't pay a 1000 for a soi 6 girl unless she was LT
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[QUOTE=Huevonn]Checked out the infamous Baaby Dolls go-go. Not my scene really. Guys getting blow jobs in the corner,. But I guess I had to see it.[/QUOTE]Was there on Saturday night. And boy was that a shock. But hey thats all part of what Pattaya is. Once the shock wears off, I started wishing for the same. But had to catch an early morning flight and wanted one last punt before saying bye to Pats.
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]Last trip in January paid 700+300 for soi 6 did get the odd one for 500 but I wouldn't pay a 1000 for a soi 6 girl unless she was LT[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but... could not the half-closing of Bangkok have tilted the demand/supply balance? I mean, if thousands of mongers leave lower Sukhumvit because of the curfew and go to Pattaya then, surely, prices in Patts will go up? I say this because I myself have just resceduled at three-days stopover in BKK to Patts for this reason. Does any other people currently in Pattaya have supplementary info?
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[QUOTE=Huevonn]I'm not a huge anal fan but thought why not but alas I was too big to squeeze in her little ass.[/QUOTE]
Guys you have to bring a tube of K-Y or you'll never have any luck with anal.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Guys you have to bring a tube of K-Y or you'll never have any luck with anal.[/QUOTE]
How do you guys have luck with anal? Ask them before fucking? During? Or just stick it in?
Also, what percentage of thai girls comply to anal sex? What age range are the girls usually?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]How do you guys have luck with anal? Ask them before fucking? During? Or just stick it in?
Also, what percentage of thai girls comply to anal sex? What age range are the girls usually?[/QUOTE]Agreeing before hand is a better route. Not all of them do anal though there quite a few who do.
Had no luck with anal at Devils Den recently (maybe I went there a bit too early. 6ish I guess. So most of the girls hadn't turned up). Hit the jackpot at Babygirls Agogo one day. The girl was absolutely amazing. She took it in with just my spit as lube. Absolutely no KY. Was very tight.
Tried another girl the next day (again, incidentally, from Babygirl) who was just too tight. Tried lubing, fingering, etc before taking the plunge. But she was just too tight. Had to stop eventually.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]How do you guys have luck with anal? Ask them before fucking? During? Or just stick it in?
Also, what percentage of thai girls comply to anal sex? What age range are the girls usually?[/QUOTE]
Always ask before, of course. The only place I've had any consistent luck finding anal in Thailand was in Pattaya, and there maybe 10% of girls can do it. Usually maybe 20-25% of the older ladies (say 30+), maybe 5% of the mid-twenties ones, and finding a 18-21ish girl who can do anal is very rare - less that 1%.
Basically if you do it without KY you are often messing it up for the next guy - the girl will get hurt and either swear off the practice or at least be unable to do it with any verve for a few days.
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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Just noticed that this thread was "started" by Clap Trap" - at least that's what I see on the Thailand list.
And Clap Trap is just a 7 post regular member only - plus I see that he really didn't seem to have started this thread with the first post.
Wonder why/just curious
SEAJ[/QUOTE]
Previous Pattaya reports are located in the archive threads. Have a look here, for instance: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2893[/url]
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]How do you guys have luck with anal? Ask them before fucking? During? Or just stick it in?
Also, what percentage of thai girls comply to anal sex? What age range are the girls usually?[/QUOTE]
With freelancers (in Pattaya, they are my favorite targets), I often ask if anal is possible before making any deal with them.
Sometimes, it's something that I ask only if I'm not sure that I would fuck the girl otherwise (not because I am not really attracted by this particular girl, but because I believe at that time that I may easily find someone more exciting).
Sometimes, I don't ask before, especially when I am really aroused by the girl (and because I would fuck her anyway, anally or not) or if I feel that there is already a good chemistry between us after a few minute conversation with the girl. I always have some lube near me when I'm fucking a girl, and if the girl lets me slightly fingering her asshole (with my middle finger usually at the beginning), for instance in doggy style position, I would gradually put more lube, use a bigger finger (my thumb), and when her anus seems to be ready and the girl is relaxed enough, I then try to stick my dick in her backdoor.
Of course, an incentive often helps. With freelancers in Pattaya, I might offer a 500 baht extra for the privilege, especially if the girl is an "anal virgin", but it's not necessary with many girls, and not only the older ones (I seldom fuck P4P girls older than 25).
I can't explain why, but I've noticed that I am quite successful with very slim girls (and whose tits are usually small, A or B-cup for instance). My long time favorite girl for anal is the Asian version of [url="http://www.cherrypotter.com/"]Cherry Potter[/url], and most of the girls who agreed to have anal sex with me, and who apparently enjoy it a lot, have the body type of [url="http://www.sashagrey.ws/"]Sasha Grey[/url], [url="http://www.aurorasnow.com/"]Aurora Snow[/url], or [url="http://beataundine.com/"]Beata Undine[/url], for instance.
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[QUOTE=Huevonn]I remember the first time I was fooled by a LB.
I was so grossed out that I almost couldn't come![/QUOTE]
Thats Funny :-)
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]Wow really? I've never paid 1000ST plus 300 bf on soi 6. Was there last month and it was still 700 + 300. Some may even go as low as 500. No way would I pay 1000 for ST on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]
yeah I'd agree with that. 3 2 week trips this year and still consistently 700 + 300 for room.
Had bizarre experience on first one on the left from 2nd road lookig down soi 6 to beach road a few weeks ago, cant remember the name. The girl gave me a bj on the sofa in the bar. It was a fairly secluded sofa but still. I thought she was just playing around but she kept right on going. Didnt pay for the room! 300 baht saved for beer. Result :-)
Happened a few years ago there too. maybe it's normal.
JohnTheScot
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]How do you guys have luck with anal? Ask them before fucking? During? Or just stick it in?
Also, what percentage of thai girls comply to anal sex? What age range are the girls usually?[/QUOTE]If you really need A-level and can't find a willing sweetie thai girl...your best bet is [url]http://www.devilsdenpattaya.com/[/url] . Check the profiles of the girls and you will find out which one performs anal sex. it will cost you more that with a freelancer, though.
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[QUOTE=Huevonn]That was a joke, my last post btw.
Having a blast.
Checked out the infamous Baaby Dolls go-go. Not my scene really. Guys getting blow jobs in the corner, girls vigorously dildo fucking each other on stage, etc. But I guess I had to see it.
To all of the Pattaya regulars: Do most of the pletohora a thai massage places offer extras? I went to one today and got the 300 oil massage and she did a nice HJ and I gave her a 300 tip. It was a very good rub and a decent tub, but she indicated that she was in no way going to give a blow job. I feel like a bit of a fool walking around and asking if BJ's are on the menu. I am talking about the normal places with fully dressed women out front, not the soapies which I will go to tommorow.
Dream Teens is what I'm considering. Any other recommendations?
I went to one about 15 years ago and had the best body rub of my life, my first time in a full soapy. That was back when women still had pubic hair and the highlight of the session was her using the scrub brush nateure had endowed her with to clean my whole body. She was really talented with that thing.[/QUOTE]All of the massage places on Soi Honey Inn will offer BJ's for 500 tip just ask before you get the massage, the girls are not shy normally and if the one you are talking to doesn't she will get one that does. Normal prices there are 300 for HJ and 700 for sex. It as an advantage over Soi 6 in that you will also get a massage for 100-200baht as well.
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soi 6 experience
Last Friday, on one of the curfew nights, I sauntered down soi 6 about 7:30 pm. I'm the sort of guy who has to walk the entire length of the soi a couple of times before deciding on my target, risking injury from assorted motorcycle taxis and food stalls with open braziers along the way (they really should make soi 6 a 'walking street' – people must occasionally get mown down, no?) Anyway on my second pass down the soi I noticed this girl outside the second bar from the end heading towards Beach Road (on the right hand side). She was very attractive and damn stylish with short cropped hair reminiscent of Nicole Kidman in Birth (if anyone has seen that movie). It turned out the gal is a hair stylist from Chidlom in BKK whose salon had been closed due to the Red Shirts and had resorted to earning a buck in Patters. 26 years old (way too old in my book) but I decided to take a punt – and boy I didn't regret it. I told her I'd pay her 600 baht + 100 baht tip if she was a 'good performer' and she took me at my word. It was the best fuck I've had in ages and she was just rampant. The rooms in this particular bar (priced at the standard 300 baht) are relatively classy for the area with mirrors on the ceiling and on the walls, making for a great 'show time' experience. She started off with a long, slow and very deep blow job which went on and on though she eventually turned over, ass in the air, inviting me to slip it inside her pussy doggy style. I jack-hammered her for a long, long time and she was moaning and purring with delight. Next we sort of worked our way through the first few chapters of the Karma Sutra, culminating in her reaching for the lube and inviting me to fuck her ass. By the time that was over we were well over the hour mark, but I wasn't finished and neither was she. We headed back to the shower for a quick rinse off and then it was back to the room where she enthusiastically rimmed me while I jerked off. As I started to hit the heights she re-emerged from my nether regions, mouth agape, and literally leapt into the air like a performing seal to catch my jizz which she gulped down hungrily. Boy oh boy! We then spent a few minutes cuddling languidly before slowing getting dressed. It was now an hour and twenty-five minutes after we first entering the room. I handed over the 600 baht + the 100 baht 'good performance' fee which she folded up, pushed inside her bra before snogging me like we were on our honeymoon. Wow! At this point I was close to just handing over all the money I had on me, but somehow I resisted the urge.
In short, fantastic! Actually I've had quite a few good experiences on soi 6 recently and I even found a couple of bars that charge 250 baht instead of the standard 300 for the room (though I couldn't tell you their names, my eyes being firmly pinned to the girls during my recon walks down the soi).
The only blemish to my recent experiences on Soi 6 was the other night when I was having a drink at the bar on the corner next to 2nd Road (Corner Bar?). A group of young guys walked up the soi dressed in rap style gear: slanted baseball caps, baggy jeans and lots of bling. They looked vaguely out of place and the girls were having a giggle in a jokey sort of way – but still calling out 'sexy man', 'I want to fuck you' etc etc. The guys ((who were all black, African? US?) got into a songtaew and headed off at which point the pink faced Brit next to me let fly with a vile mouthful of racist abuse. If there's one thing I can't abide its ignorant, bigoted farangs with IQs in the low decimal points making racist comments when 'they' are the foreigners here. I mean, live and let live! Anyway, I paid my bin and left, won't be going back to that particular bar if I see that moron sitting there!
But yes, soi 6, a bit of a lottery, but when you hit the jackpot, GREAT!
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[QUOTE=Takamine1]That's what I did three years ago on my first visit to LOS. I went straight to Pattaya. Beforehand I compiled a list of LB bars to avoid (all in alphabetical order) for quick reference.
Needless to say that it didn't work out quite like that. The place is so large and dense with bars that there are too many omissions from websites.
Mai pellai!! I still had a wonderfully crazy time![/QUOTE]:D leaving my map at home, will see what happens when I am there.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Always ask before, of course. The only place I've had any consistent luck finding anal in Thailand was in Pattaya, and there maybe 10% of girls can do it. Usually maybe 20-25% of the older ladies (say 30+), maybe 5% of the mid-twenties ones, and finding a 18-21ish girl who can do anal is very rare - less that 1%.
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True dat. At ages 18 to 25 they don't really want to give it up. However I'm into MILF's anyway and it has offered to me when they see I'm having trouble finishing, sometimes without cover which doesn't really close the deal for me.
Doppel One, 5.5 months till I hit LOS and given your report I'm not sure if I can last that long.
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Saint Mint Bathroom Experiences - Moved & Modified
As requested I am moving the report, which will follow, from another part of the forum (which will be deleted soon). It has been modified (trying to take out emotions). Also, answers to two questions.
1. These are not fantacies.
2. No money exchanged hands except for buying drinks in case 1 and case 2. Overtime, quite a lot of drinks in case 1.
For me these were unusual bathroom experiences and not the regular kind such as soapy massages etc. The reason for the report is to answer the question about my bathroom preferances.
Number 1. It was getting late. Maybe about 1 in the morning. It was Friday night and I was in my normal 'Friday Night. So Glad the Weekends Here' condition. I was walking down the Walking Street and did, what I tended to do quite a lot in those days, popped into a Go-Go Bar. This was a regular place for me and all the girls did their usual thing and surrounded me for their usual 'Firday Night and Saint Mint's Drunk Again' drink. ' This time it was slighly different as the girls were quite a bit more drunk than usual. The then German Bar Manager had been more generous than usual handing out the Tequilas. There was one girl in particular who, as well as being very drunk, was very horney. She grabbed my hand and took me to the bathroom at the end of the bar. She locked the door. Fifthteen minutes later we left the bathroom and went back into the bar where we were greeted with cheers from the remaining dancers and customers. The then German Bar Manager just shook his head.
Number 2. The same as number 1 in terms that it was the weekend again and I'm drunk. This time I was in a large bar with a live band. I'm at the bar, doing my usual thing and, trying to chat to a couple of girls. One of them is quite drunk and quite tearful. I buy them a drink and the tearful one is very happy and starts to get quite friendly. These were not Pattaya girls. These were office girls from Bangkok. In previous reports I think I have written about Bangkok office girls. The previously tearful but, now happy one then grabs my hand and leads me to the bar bathrooms. We find a free toilet and we go in. She locks the door and we start getting down to it. Unfortunately, the women who collects the money so that you can use the bathroom, had seen us. She came knocking on the door and demanded that we came out. When we came out her friend was also there. The two girls then ran out of the bar and up the South Pattaya Road towards Dot Com. I tried to follow but couldn't keep up.
Number 3. At one of the big Condos in Jomtien. I was on the 14th floor visiting a friend. The time was about 7 at night. There was a bit of a storm blowing up and then a power cut. I had to leave and my friend gave me a torch to help me negotiate the stairs. When I got down to the 6th floor a woman dressed in a night dress was hovering in the corridor. She seemed quite scared. I took her back to her room where we found some candles. She asked me if I wanted a drink. I told her that I had to do something important and that I would be back in half an hour. When I arrived back power had been restored but, I was soaked. She invited me in and ran a bath. We then drank wine together in the bath.
Even though she was a bit older than me she was in very good shape and this was a very enjoyable experience but, this also lead to more fun. She had a daughter and her daughter's friend staying with her. It was mid term or something like that. A few days later I saw her again and she asked me to go to her room when I had time. So I did and sitting on the bed were the two girls and her. She told me that she would like me to what I had done to her with the daughters friend and, that she wanted to watch. I thought she was joking. But, no such luck, the daughter left the room and we went through the whole process again. The mother didn't join in. First she sat at the end of the bed and then she came closer and gave advise to her daughters friend. At this point I must say that the daughters friend was absolutely stunning and, we had a few more sessions, without anyone watching.
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Up the bum, lots of fun
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Had no luck with anal at Devils Den recently .[/QUOTE]
On my visits to Devil´s Den, three of the four girls I sampled took everything I could give them. The other took two fingers but was too small to fuck (that was the one with plastic tits, by the way).
One took four fingers and almost the fist. Open hand too as I squeezed her cheek. Amazing!
Just make sure you choose girls standing on the right hand side of the line.
Bloody good value and I wish I could be there now...
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[QUOTE=Goyave]I can't explain why, but I've noticed that I am quite successful with very slim girls (and whose tits are usually small, A or B-cup for instance).[/QUOTE]
Definitely. Those 'ectomorph' girls are also much more apt to be into (or amenable to) a large penis.
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Arrived in Pattaya
Arrived in BKK late last night after the curfew, and was aghast to see Sukhumvit dead empty. I mean it was stomach churning to see that anthill as empty as it was. I decided I could do worse than ditch the capital and head on over to where there is no curfew. So I got on the bus at Ekkamai at 2:55pm, and we pulled out at 3pm on the dot. It's now 5:55pm and I am sitting comfortably in my hotel room at the Nova Platinum. The bus ride took exactly 2 hours and 5 minutes, then all the futsing about with the baht bus, check-in, and here I am.
First impressions of my return to Pattaya is that the place seems dreary. The weather is overcaste, the light is pale and tepid, and so the atmosphere is very downbeat. There seemed to be no traffic whatsoever on beach road, neither the four-wheeled kind nor the two-legged-in-a-mini-skirt kind. But that was around 5:30pm, so I'm hopeful things will pick up.
The plan: quick shower, dinner, Starbucks, then I intend to go gogo giddy. I have to avoid a couple of places since there are some girls in there who have been emailing me for the last three months I was back home. They each profess their endless, entirely monogomous love for me, which is about as monogomous as a catholic priest. So I'd rather jusy avoid the soap box that would inevitably ensue if they see me. But nonetheless, if there is one thing Pattaya is not lacking is sheer volume of gogo bars. I shall report tomorrow on my endeavors.
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Really looking forward to your report. I am thinking about doing a trip later this summer and it will be a great help to see where things stand.
Good luck and happy hunting!
[QUOTE=Kumbu]Arrived in BKK late last night after the curfew, and was aghast to see Sukhumvit dead empty. I mean it was stomach churning to see that anthill as empty as it was. I decided I could do worse than ditch the capital and head on over to where there is no curfew. So I got on the bus at Ekkamai at 2:55pm, and we pulled out at 3pm on the dot. It's now 5:55pm and I am sitting comfortably in my hotel room at the Nova Platinum. The bus ride took exactly 2 hours and 5 minutes, then all the futsing about with the baht bus, check-in, and here I am.
First impressions of my return to Pattaya is that the place seems dreary. The weather is overcaste, the light is pale and tepid, and so the atmosphere is very downbeat. There seemed to be no traffic whatsoever on beach road, neither the four-wheeled kind nor the two-legged-in-a-mini-skirt kind. But that was around 5:30pm, so I'm hopeful things will pick up.
The plan: quick shower, dinner, Starbucks, then I intend to go gogo giddy. I have to avoid a couple of places since there are some girls in there who have been emailing me for the last three months I was back home. They each profess their endless, entirely monogomous love for me, which is about as monogomous as a catholic priest. So I'd rather jusy avoid the soap box that would inevitably ensue if they see me. But nonetheless, if there is one thing Pattaya is not lacking is sheer volume of gogo bars. I shall report tomorrow on my endeavors.[/QUOTE]
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Ufc
Anyone seen any bar's or gogo's or any where promoting the Ufc fight this weekend(Evans vs Jackson)? I'd like to watch the fight this sunday at a nice bar with maybe some ladies around. I'm arriving tomorrow night if anyone wants to catch up for a beer/bj from a nice establishment.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]Arrived in BKK late last night after the curfew, and was aghast to see Sukhumvit dead empty. I mean it was stomach churning to see that anthill as empty as it was. I decided I could do worse than ditch the capital and head on over to where there is no curfew. So I got on the bus at Ekkamai at 2:55pm, and we pulled out at 3pm on the dot. It's now 5:55pm and I am sitting comfortably in my hotel room at the Nova Platinum. The bus ride took exactly 2 hours and 5 minutes, then all the futsing about with the baht bus, check-in, and here I am.
First impressions of my return to Pattaya is that the place seems dreary. The weather is overcaste, the light is pale and tepid, and so the atmosphere is very downbeat. There seemed to be no traffic whatsoever on beach road, neither the four-wheeled kind nor the two-legged-in-a-mini-skirt kind. But that was around 5:30pm, so I'm hopeful things will pick up.
The plan: quick shower, dinner, Starbucks, then I intend to go gogo giddy. I have to avoid a couple of places since there are some girls in there who have been emailing me for the last three months I was back home. They each profess their endless, entirely monogomous love for me, which is about as monogomous as a catholic priest. So I'd rather jusy avoid the soap box that would inevitably ensue if they see me. But nonetheless, if there is one thing Pattaya is not lacking is sheer volume of gogo bars. I shall report tomorrow on my endeavors.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and please keep them coming.
I arrive Sunday afternoon for 2 weeks. It wil be my first foray in LOS being that Im primarily a C&S America monger.
Can't wait to get there and help the Thai economy!
Rainman3
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The Chronicles of Kumbu
Some guys have too much ejaculate, and I am not one of them. I came to this realization while standing in the contraceptive aisle at Walgreen's. I was trying to pick from amongst the 7,000 various kinds of condoms, planning for my upcoming 3-week 'business' trip to Thailand.
With or without lubricant? With or without spermicide? Ribbed (for her pleasure) or unribbed (because you just don't care)? Ultrasensitive or thick as tire? Trojan, Kimono, or Walgreen's generic? I finally arrived upon my choice - a choice that is quintessentially Kumbu, if I may say so: Trojan (solid), unribbed (simple), unlubricated (clean), non-spermicidal (can't we just all get along?) - nothing special, no frills, just a wrap to protect the little guy. But here is where I came upon my revelation: I had to pick between the travel-size (4 condoms), the 12-pack, or the Ejaculator Supreme 36-pack.
Three weeks in Bangkok/Pattaya, one would be tempted to go for the econo-size 36-pack. Better to have too many than not enough, no? But then I remembered the first of my previous three trips began in much the same way, and back then I selected the 36-pack. Sadly, those 36 condoms lasted through the next two 3-week stints in Thailand. So I had to admit to myself that I just don't rip through these things like Kirstie Alley rips through M&Ms.
I read on this board about guys who do a triple at night, then a double in the morning, all within the bounds of LT. In fact, in small talk with a girl back in Feb, she told me of a guy who when they got into the room explained that he wanted LT, with six pops, followed by 3 hours of sleep and three pops in the morning. 9 pops for 2000TBH. And I compare that to myself. I prefer one, long, terribly intense session with a single jaw-droping, ball-busting ejaculation at the end. Actually, I don't do this for the purpose of ejaculation. I do it for all the other things: the feel of a soft thigh in my palm, the smell of a neck line, the taste of the underside of a tender breast. I enjoy the hunt, the capture, the delicate soft-talk, and then the sweaty, heaving thrusting that follows, hopefully for several hours. Truth be told, I ejaculate simply because it provides a good closing point to the night. Without the ejaculation, it seems like the deed has not been done, and the woman wonders about herself. So I ejaculate so we can end it, shower and sleep. With all that in mind, I tend to ejaculate far less than most guys, at least from reading this board. I wonder if there's something wrong with me? I don't care really, but there you have it.
I give you this egocentric information only to contextualize the reports I will be posting in the following weeks. As with my past reports, they will be long, excruciatingly detailed, and for some very, very mundane. If that is you, please just ignore them and move on. My goal is to provide details for newbies. As a sometimes newbie (in other locations), I often yearn for reports that have nitty-gritty details which can help me envision what I will encounter. This is what I will attempt to provide.
So I decided, right there at the Walgreen's on Venice Blvd in West LA, that this time I will not fight my natural self. Here is the plan for this next three weeks. I plan to work every day during the day time, and at night I plan to hunt. Every night, if my mind and body allow. That's not to say that I will actually score every night - I am planning on scoring perhaps 3-4 times per week, but the rest of the time it will be hunting for the perfect prey. I will submit long, painfully detailed reports on those nights that there is something to report, but less detailed reports on the hunting-with-no-success nights. Sometimes my reports will go here, in the Pattaya section, and other times they will be in the BKK section, since I will be splitting my time between the locales.
Some things to further contextualize the reports. I'm in my mid-thirties, slim, brown skin, dark hair, of ambiguous ethnicity - in the US I am often spoken to in Spanish; in Europe people think I'm Turkish or south European; in Asia people think I am Indian or Arab. For the record, I am none of those. I adore, in ranked order: asses>legs>soft skin (of any color)>pussies>smiles>high cheek bones>full, pouting lips>eyes>breasts>conversation>hands>feet. I detest, in ranked order: pushy mamasans> pushy gogo-girls> my own physical fatigue> my propensity to use lots of words. And I believe once I am done with this trip to Thailand, you too shall join me on that last one.
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Reports of the demise of Pattaya are greatly exaggerated
In fact, totally untrue, as far as I can tell. I have broken this monster post into three smaller, still monstrous posts. This post is a general appraisal of the mongering business in Pattaya at this odd political time (at least my take on it). The second post is about all the pre-sex things: going from bar to bar, sealing the deal with a gem of a girl in Baccara. The third and final post is about the actual bedroom events. All done in excruciating HD detail.
The night started with a walk down Second Road in search for some place to eat. I had some pad siu at a dive of a hotel somewhere, then walked through the maze of streets ending up on walking street at soi 14. The time was 7:30, and WS was totally dead. There were (literally) a dozen people in either direction. Uh-oh.
I walked up towards beach road and once on beach rd, to my relief, I saw plenty of available providers. In fact, the volume on display was rather impressive – almost enough to tempt me into a stroll on THAT side of the street. Call me shy, or lazy, or whatever, but I just can't handle that walk of the gauntlet – I usually walk on the other side of beach rd. where there are no waiting throngs of probing eyes. It's just very uncomfortable for me, I suppose because of my lack of interest in the SW scene – been burned too many times. If there is little chance of engaging a girl, then the hassle of dealing with the eyeballs and cat calls isn't worth it. Don't get me wrong, there are definitely deals to be had, but for me, it is immensely hard to judge the *subtle* quality of a woman on Beach rd. That's just me, I'm not passing judgment on the SW scene for everyone, it just doesn't work for me.
So bottom line for SWs on beach rd: unlike my 5:30pm pass, the 7:30pm pass was substantially better. I would even go so far as to say the offerings were downright good. Cue the champagne bottles popping all across the US, Europe and East Asia.
Now my impression of the gogo bar scene is even better. WS was painfully empty (as you will see in the following post), but my suspicion is that this is because all the goddamtourists (all one word) have stayed away, but none of the godblessedmongers have. Or at least not in the same proportions as the goddamtourists. WS was not the meat grinder it was in January/February, not by any stretch of the imagination. But the gogo bars were about as full (not quite, but almost) as in Jan/Feb. So the girls are getting their money, as far as I can tell, and we don't have to deal with the throngs of Russian/Arab goddamtourists with their children (I was tempted to call them goddamchildren) in tow at 1am in the frikkin' morning. Please note my reference to goddamtourist Russian/Arabs is not a slur - just a description of the frustration of having to weave through them on WS. I suppose I should add Chinese goddamtourists too.
So bottom line for gogo bars: Come to Pattaya! Don't be dissuaded by the negative publicity or the scary news stories. Things are good down here. Note, however, this is based upon exactly one night in Pattaya (Wed night).
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
WS was not the meat grinder it was in January/February, not by any stretch of the imagination. But the gogo bars were about as full (not quite, but almost) as in Jan/Feb. So the girls are getting their money, as far as I can tell, [/QUOTE]
This is low season. Of course the amount of tourists is less.
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I usually spend an odd weekend in Belgium, Germany or Dam. But decided to spend 8 days in Pattaya. I am travelling alone, I am not sure what will I do during the day. I might be dull and boring. I might read books or sleep very late and get up late. What else can you do in Pattaya apart from having sex. Are there any nice massage places, any recommendations?
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Not a quiet night
I had decided that last night, Wednesday, would be one of rest and recuperation. Much needed after 6 days of go gos, beer bar girls, a few FL from beach road and late nights of sex and drinking, usually falling asleep with a sweet young girl in my arms at 5ish in the morning. Wake up, repeat.
But it is hard. Just walking around you are surrounded by beauty everywhere, and the feeling that it is totally available becomes overwhelming. In the real world, an attractive women passes us by and the immediate thought is 'wow I would really like to have sex with her'. That thought ends there because it is 99.5 per cent unlikely to happen. Whereas here in Pattaya it is 99.9 percent possible if one wishes to pursue the matter.
So I decided to just go see a movie and call it a night. I had an early great short time session with a young sweet tighty from Soi 6 so had no strong urge, just the short ones repeating every few seconds as a beauty would pass by me.
After the film at a very nice air conditioned theatre, Major complex on 2nd Road I was walking back to my hotel and decided to stop in for a quick beer before retiring. I like the beer bars that are relatively quiet, not thump thump blaring dumb music, so that was my quest. Walked down and back up soi 8 and was in an aroused state from the above mentioned experience. There are a few quietish beer bars on soi 8.
But also there is Silver Star go go which I had visited on previous occasions and it has very pretty girls, full nudity and a bath show. Similar set up to Airport. No pressure to drink and girls will come by and talk, rub you, etc for quite some time before lady drink is suggested. Fair sized draft mugs are only 65. I sat with a hotite for some time who kept me hard the whole time, near the bath show. There was a big spender in with his drop dead gorgeous girlfriend and the women were putting on super show, three in a row licking each other, etc. And the guys hottie was going totally nuts, calling over the girls and she was licking and fingering each one. Very sexy high tension sexual atmosphere. Up on stage maybe a dozen fully naked little vaginas dancing and fingering themselves.
Now did I stand a chance for the early evening?
Nope.
I walked back to the hotel, took a Kiagara (which work very well, only draw back a bit of foggy head), and decided to find that quiet beer bar and a cutie. I have not taken a go go girl yet, not sure why but it seems to me that the higher price would not ensure good service. If I am with a girl there and buying a few lady drinks I can not get the for sure feeling if she is just a very good actress or if we are making some connection, so that is why I have passed so far despite full on making out sessions and really very pretty women.
Please bear with me, this story gets very good!
So I see a beer bar just down the road from Silver Star that meets my requirements, and has a pool table with two very sexy and young girls playing. I ask if I can join and of course enthusiastic smiles and laughing and yes of course. Get to know them as we play, buy a few drinks, not lady price so it is not expensive at all. Their names are June and Joy and they are both 22, look 18 to Western eyes. June is very bubbly and they have been drinking for some time it appears so are very happy. Joy is a little quieter, speaks English quite well, and it is her night off from working at Happy go go on Walking street.
Me to June: why you no work in go go?
June: outrageous laughter at suggestion, me no! Me shy!
Me: you never see go go bar?
June: no me never!
Me: you want see?
June: laughing like crazy at suggestion, maybe I go one day!
Me: we can go here to Silver Star, have drink? And me nodding at her friend, she come too!
Now this is interesting, this is where her friend really perks up and they are speaking in Thai, it appears that she is convincing her to go. I learn along the way that she has been trying to convince her friend to work in her go go because she can make much more money. Beach bar girls get 3,000 baht salary, go go's get 8,000 and up, more if they do the sexy show stuff, more if they do lesbian stuff-all of this informed by Joy.
June is liking the idea and getting excited and nervous at the same time. She says OK you pay bar fine and we go! I am getting excited at the possibilities of where this may go. I order two b 52s for me and her. She is grabbing her chest and taking deep breaths between laughing. So off the 3 of us go!
It is still quite charged atmosphere and Junes eyes are bugging out of her head at all the nudity, and the girls in the bath / shower show. We have drinks and they both are dancing rubbing on me, June is getting into it. Now I look like the hot shot big spender, everyone watching me with tow hotties going crazy, necking with me rubbing me and in short time each other (I am not hot shot big spender, I am buying us rounds of draft at 65 baht each). I realize now that Joy is totally hot for her friend. They kiss, timidly by June at first then June goes crazy making out with her, alternating with me. She is dancing and really really turned on by the go go. We are all drunk with passion.
Me to June: you want Joy come with room, me and you?
June: (outrageous laughter})OK!
Joy has her arms around her feeling her breasts as we chat and make out. Pelvic grinding everywhere,the good sign of women's bodies getting turned on.
I don't remember how we came to the price but it was decided that I would pay them 1,000 each for a fully interactive lesbian show with me fully participating. No bargaining ect they immediately accepted the offer of 1000 each. I am kind of not really believing what is happening here, the non planned good fortune that is unfolding. It is all a bit too much, in a room full of naked women and about to go home with two of them for a trio. The Gods of sex have smiled upon me this evening.
We stop for a bit to eat and a few Bacardi's from 7/11 on the way. June eats something super spicy. I like spicy myself but this blew my head off. She ate lots and later I could feel the burn on my cock when it was in her mouth.
I will not go into sexual details, you all know them. It was exactly as how one would imagine this fantasy unfolding. Me fucking one while she eats the other, all permutations of positions possible,etc. Very very nice.
I will say that it was a very enjoyable experience. I have only had one other threesome back in college. In both of these situations the only draw back is I wish we were all a little less intoxicated. I think that a few drinks can make for good sex but we had had a few too many. It was hard for me to come and I do not really like having to put too much effort into getting an orgasm.
When we were done Joy left and June stayed. We had a nice romp when we woke up early afternoon and she left with an extra 500 baht, accepted with a smile.
So much for my quiet night off. I shall try again this evening. But there is a cutie across the aisle from me here in the internet cafe that keeps smiling my way.
Gotta love Pattaya.
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newbie
Hi all, just want to say thanks to all the seniors here for their information which is much appreciated by this newbie anyway. Been thinking of going to LOS for over 10years, but never got around to it for some reason or another. Finally though I've bitten the bullet as they say and have booked my first trip in September for 2weeks in Patt's.
Going by the local read on here aswell, I think I'll be making the 'devil's den' one of my first stops.
Just a quick word with the mod if they read this, is if they're able to update the airport thread at all, or is it much the same for transportation as from 2years ago?
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Things to do in Pattaya
[QUOTE=Mido31]I usually spend an odd weekend in Belgium, Germany or Dam. But decided to spend 8 days in Pattaya. I am travelling alone, I am not sure what will I do during the day. I might be dull and boring. I might read books or sleep very late and get up late. What else can you do in Pattaya apart from having sex. Are there any nice massage places, any recommendations?[/QUOTE]
No massage places....nothing to do.
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Pattaya GoGos with stunners
I've been to Bangkok twice, and getting ready for first trip to Patts. I've opted for Bangkok in the past cause, according to research on this forum, if you're focused on young stunners that's the place to go. But I'd like to at least try Patts, and if it's no good I'll check out and head back to Bangkok. Can anyone recommend the best GoGos in Pattaya for young stunners? (sort of like the Nataree of Bangkok, but not just massage.).
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Mong1225]I've been to Bangkok twice, and getting ready for first trip to Patts. I've opted for Bangkok in the past cause, according to research on this forum, if you're focused on young stunners that's the place to go. But I'd like to at least try Patts, and if it's no good I'll check out and head back to Bangkok. Can anyone recommend the best GoGos in Pattaya for young stunners? (sort of like the Nataree of Bangkok, but not just massage.).
Thanks![/QUOTE]Forget Pattaya. There's a handful of great looking girls there. Mostly they are taken though. In Bangkok the selection is much better.
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[QUOTE=Mong1225]I've been to Bangkok twice, and getting ready for first trip to Patts. I've opted for Bangkok in the past cause, according to research on this forum, if you're focused on young stunners that's the place to go. But I'd like to at least try Patts, and if it's no good I'll check out and head back to Bangkok. Can anyone recommend the best GoGos in Pattaya for young stunners? (sort of like the Nataree of Bangkok, but not just massage.).
Thanks![/QUOTE]I found Utopia some days had the best selection of young girls when talking looks and dancing. Other days the place was almost empty with no girls at all, weird.
Try and avoid Sundays and Mondays. Seems like the majority of the gogo bars send their better looking girls on "holiday" these days. Tuesday-Saturday were better.
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[QUOTE=Mido31] What else can you do in Pattaya apart from having sex. Are there any nice massage places, any recommendations?[/QUOTE]
Having it again but you can also try these activities:
[url]http://www.pattaya.bangkok.com/tours/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattaya.bangkok.com/todo.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayasweethearts.com/massage.htm[/url]
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It smells like Thailand
got off the plane late last night. almost after curfew. met some fellow punts on the plane who had no ride to patts, offered them my ride. as soon as i got out of the airport i noticed how i missed the smell of thailand. kind of refreshing in a third world kind of way. anyways, the 2 nice gentleman i met, one who had some cialis and vicodins by the way. so, needless-to-say i was pretty light-headed for a few hours . after i checked into my hotel,(penthouse) noticing how close it is to boys town. if you are scared of half naked men/ladyboys, then this isn't the hotel for you. went down to kittens club/obsessions and it was the same set up written over and over again. lbs on right regular girls on left. not a lot of reg girls tonight. lot's of lb's though. i could see how some could be easily fooled. i made the mistake of sitting next to one and as soon as that happened they all came flocking. i managed to leave unrep001hed. hopped on a scooter taxi to the pump station. that was a mistake to go there with a scooter taxi guy, he tried to get a cut. they said they wanted 1500 for a bj upstairs. i nearly died laughing, as 1: i'm not dumb, 2: i'm not that ugly to be charged that much. i talked to the mama-san and got it for 870 baht instead. which is reasonable. the girl i got was ok in the face however, she had some real nice tits. we went upstairs to the bar and she put on the porn and got down to buisness. it was 2 in the morning almost so i was all by my lonesome. the bbbj itself was too aggressive and she wouldn't pull out her tits to let me see them. i could touch them though. weird. i left because i couldn't get one out from her over agressiveness and lack of getting the bj i wanted. ended up walking to beach road then eventually to walking street. i walked into the club with the car thats coming out of it. i had been there quite a few times before from past visits. i knew there would be a lot of working girls. which there was, and relatively few tourists. made the rounds a few times and noticed a girl a girl who i saw for the blink of an eye when i first walked in. name was emm something like that. i got her a drink since she doesn't work there and we agreed on 1500 to stay until noon the next day. she was a 7.5 in the face a 7 in the body but an 9 for her ass. just ridiculous. great bbbj (which she is doing while i write this) and awesome gfe experience. i'm gonna go finish this bj and get ready for my day.
happy hunting
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What is your taste?
[QUOTE=Mong1225]I've been to Bangkok twice, and getting ready for first trip to Patts. I've opted for Bangkok in the past cause, according to research on this forum, if you're focused on young stunners that's the place to go. But I'd like to at least try Patts, and if it's no good I'll check out and head back to Bangkok. Can anyone recommend the best GoGos in Pattaya for young stunners? (sort of like the Nataree of Bangkok, but not just massage.).
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Most of the GoGos have at least a few girls who are 9s or 10s, generally with many more 6-8s to fill them up. Some specialise in cute and innocent 18-22 year olds which tend to get BFed by the Chinese and other Asians some in more raunchy types which tend to attract western guys. The beauty of Patts is that the whole thing is within easy walking distance, so just wander around take a loo around a dozen bars and see what appeals to your tastes. if you are willing to pay the top end bar fine prices (typically less than their equivalent in BKK, for sure you should find something that suits. The idea of someone coming to Pattaya where there are maybe 50,000 (?) working girls and not finding some to his taste is fairly ridiculous. Of course if you are looking to pay just 500B then getting top quality will be a real challenge but not if you are used to paying BKK prices.
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What a crazy story, I love it.
[QUOTE=Huevonn]I had decided that last night, Wednesday, would be one of rest and recuperation. [/QUOTE]
And yes, the rest and recuperation thing is perhaps universal in Pattaya - we all dream of it, but it cannot be done.
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Oh jet lag, why doth though fetter me so?
So this is a continuation of the previous post, a blow-by-blow account of my first night back in Pattaya. There is no point here, so if you are not interested in details for the sake of details, may I recommend you skip this long post.
Summary:
- fatigue becomes an issue
- went to Happy Agogo, nothing there for me
- went to Dollhouse, felt used and exploited, wont return
- went to Baccara, pleasantly surprised by the offerings, picked out a superb grl, the subject of the next post.
As I walked up away from WS on beach rd, I realized I was less walking and more staggering. Wtf? I was suddenly very, very tired. Wow, this was not part of the plan. My mind searched frantically for an explanation that would lead to a positive outcome, and I settled on the following. I had lunch at 12noon in BKK, and spent the afternoon on a bumpy bus down to Pattaya, depriving my body of sustenance. And then I had noodles, pad siu no less, which flooded my body with pure carbs in a matter of minutes. So the natural after-dinner sleepiness was the problem. Or was it jet lag??
Starbucks to the rescue. “Short Americano, three shots please...yes, triple shots...no, not extra shot, TWO extra shots...yes, triple. Yes, triple. Thank you.” 30 minutes later, appropriately buzzed, I walked back down WS. It was now 8:15, and WS was still a cemetery. My recollection from January/February was that most gogo bars open at 8pm, some at 9pm. I remembered Happy Agogo is an early opener, so I made a beeline. My crotch was feeling definitively under-inspired, and I needed some jiggling bums and bouncing smiles to get my motor running.
To my utter despair, as I walked up that alley way, the door men signaled to me that they were closed. Umm...kill me now. Is Pattaya under curfew? Are all these places dead? I began to see red. I mean, those damned red shirts, how dare they mess with my sexual indulgences. But to my relief, they shouted to me “5 minutes”. Ah, ok, so I was just early, at 8:15.
So I popped my earphones on, cranked up the Ipod and walked gently down WS towards Jom Tien. As I approached the end, I saw a sign for Starbucks, and I thought it wouldn't do much harm, so that's where I sat for the next 30 minutes, nursing another triple-shot (yes, three shots...) Americano.
30 minutes later with a grand total of six shots inside me, I was veritably giddy, bouncing like a high school kid on his way to the prom expecting to pop his girlfriend's cherry. I skittled my way through the still uncrowded WS (it was now 8:50) to the sound of Radiohead on my Ipod wailing about what a creep he is. Yeah, you and me both.
Happy Agogo did not disappoint – I entered to the sight of six bums jiggling at a thousand jiggles per second. Butt flesh, what is it not good for? By sheer habit, I ordered a draft, cursing myself as soon as I did – the alcohol will do nothing but compound my fatigue. But I sipped slowly, draining it over thirty minutes or so. At which point Kik, a hostess, began the inevitable press for more drinks/lady drinks. So I politely paid up and walked.
I thought that six shots of espresso will work wonders for two hours or so, after which I was expecting the mother of all coffee-crashes. I figured I had to tie up a commitment fairly soon. So I decided to skip the regular run of gogo bars and try to find a girl that I had been thinking of for the last 3 months – Nan from Dollhouse.
I walked in, and I knew things were not quite right from the get go. The lights were far dimmer than I remember, and there were 5 girls on stage, not the usual 12-15. Also, the girls were wearing drab, dark clothing, not the fluorescent green string bikinis that I remember. I was ushered into a booth, and I looked around for the mama san with whom I had built a rapport three months earlier. Uh-oh, mama san was different. Crap.
Next, I scanned the stage for Nan, unsuccessfully. Crap. I scanned the floor for her, finding no one. Crap. I ordered my drink (water), and began the inexorable scrutiny of the legs and asses on stage. Of the six girls, four were non-distinct with rather generic Thai body shapes. One girl was distinctly non-Thai in that she was large, very large with cottage-cheese thighs. And that left one girl with potential. So I started looking her over seriously, wondering if it might be worth the effort.
Before I could make headway in this decision, one of the generic girls popped into the booth and began the perky 'where you from' routine'. I complied, “America”. Predictably, she was confused. “But you no look Amelikaaa.” Oh Jeez, must we do the whole dog and pony show? Thankfully, before I could show my irritation (remember, I was tired and cranky), her friend arrived for the double team. 30 seconds later, the ask for the double lady drink was made. As per the ritual, I balked, which was followed by the obligatory crotch rub and neck nuzzle. “How about now, two lady drinks?” I said, “Sorry, gotta go”. So girl #1 pulls off her bra and my hand is pressed into the rather meager offerings while girl #2 pulls my other hand onto her ass and starts to help massage the soft but unplentisome flesh there. Ok, at least they are working for their drinks. So I relented, bought each a drink. We fooled around for another 10 minutes, when mama san descended and started to press for either a double BF or another set of drinks. So I paid up and left. As I got my change, the waitress and mama san scuttled over and begged for tips. Why? I walked out, to their curses about what a bad man I am. What Ev.
So my plans with Nan were a bust. Now where? I needed a comfortable place to sit and work out a plan. I remembered Baccara as a large, spacious and comfortable place, albeit filled with very pushy girls. So I was a little hesitant to go there, but it was close by and I wanted the comfort of those lounge chairs to work out a plan for the rest of the evening.
I walked in and usher-guy tries to stick me on a stool at the corner of the stage. No son, that will not do. So he takes me over to a lounger in the very middle of the stage – a perfect location. Good man, now go get me some water. As I sat down (I mean literally, as I was in the process of sitting down), I was faced with the most spectacular set of butt cheeks I have seen in a long time. Round, firm, bubbled, sitting atop slim, curvy sexy legs. Ok, so what kind of hideous face awaits me when I look up...wow, very cute. High cheek bones, a beautiful smile, alluring eyes, and an engaging expression (i.e., not the 'I don't give a fuck, I'm a princess and if you insist, I will suck your dick for 1000B, but I wont like it, and I wont pretend to like it either' expression). She was dancing like she was enjoying it, not the gogo shuffle. Dare I think it? Do we have a winner?
To cut a long story short, she disappeared after her dance for a good half hour. During this time, I pondered grabbing one of two possible alternates, but just before I took the plunge, my patience paid off by the beauty-butt girl's re-appearance on stage. We spent the next 10 minutes making energizing, scintillating eye contact, smiles, blow-kisses and the whole lot. When the rotation changed, she made her way to me and sat down on my lap.
To my surprise, she was topless. I had not even noticed this fact as we had courted each other for the last 10 minutes! What's more, her breasts were substantial and pretty – well proportioned, pink nipples atop large, B/C sized cups, generally pointing in the right direction. What a bonus. So I groped her, caressed her, fondled very gently, and she crotch-ground, bounced up and down, rubbed my nipples, etc, you know, the usual. 23 years old, Isaan, 10 months in Pattaya. So anyway, we sealed the deal, I paid up while she went to get her stuff. 600Baht BF, 105 for lady drink and 99 for my drink. Weird pricing.
She arrived back wearing a frilly white polka-dotted miniskirt thing which made her look like she was 18 years old. Delightful. As we walked out she told me that she worked in another gogo bar too, the name of which I just could not decipher. She kept saying “Keffen”, and after 3-4 repetitions, she told me it was new and would I like to go see it? I thought it might be worth a gander, so we went.
It turns out it IS new, it's called Cavern (“Keffen”), and is a little hard to see (I had not even seen it walking past it twice earlier today). It is just before Lucifer Disco. Anyway, it has a cave motif, and is just packed full of girls. I was amazed as to the girl-to-guy ratio – there were perhaps 40 girls in there with no more than 8 or 9 guys. Many of the girls were indistinguishable, but there were some lookers too. So this girl tried to get me to buy her friend a drink, which I agreed to because I wanted to scope the place out. So we chit chatted for a while (all three of us), and I was kind of expecting the offer of a threesome. One never actually materialized, but my girl did at one point tell me that she regularly engages in the sexy show (“SEKK-si shoh”), during which she even does a lesbian show. I suppose that was a hint, but I ain't into that, so I let it pass.
We eventually broke out of there, by which time it was 11pm. I was seriously feeling the coffee crash at this point, and I was a little worried. So I discretely popped a half Cialis into my mouth as we walked back to the hotel. My next post is about the bedroom events.
Finally, I would say that the quality of girls in Baccara was definitely better this time than when I went in there in January. There are two stages (one upstairs, one downstairs), and like the place in BKK, the A team works the ground floor. There were easily 40 girls in the downstairs portion, and perhaps 20 guys. And there are some very pretty little things to be had. But all of this can change in the space of a week.
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[QUOTE=Mong1225]Can anyone recommend the best GoGos in Pattaya for young stunners? (sort of like the Nataree of Bangkok, but not just massage.).[/QUOTE]
I second what GregLondon says: it's all based upon individual taste. You should do a run of as many of the gogo bars as you can, being sure to not have a beer at each one or else you wont get through half of them on WS. I would say that places like Babydolls and Windmill (and perhaps a couple of others down by Soi 16, maybe others too?) are less the stunner pretty type of place and more the dirty, dildo types of places. But the places that you may find what you are looking for are in this non-exhaustive, unordered list.
- Airport
- Angelwitch
- Cavern
- Baccara
- Happy (maybe)
- Roxy
- Supergirl
- Superbaby
If you like 'em skinny, then Beachhouse is the place. Diamond ain't bad, although I've never personally had luck there. Naughty Girl is small but ok, and Sea Agogo sucks, IMHO. And that's about all the places I have experience with.
I am sure others will disagree with some/many/all of my assessments, which just proves my first point.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]If you like 'em skinny, then Beachhouse is the place..[/QUOTE]
Where is Beachhouse?
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Where is Beachhouse?[/QUOTE]
He probably meant to say "Beach Club," located on Soi 15, and offering table dancing with upskirt views.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]He probably meant to say "Beach Club," located on Soi 15, and offering table dancing with upskirt views.[/QUOTE]
yes, sorry, I meant Beach Club.
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I will be making my regular 3/4 monthly visit to Pattaya from the depths of Isaan next week.
Will likely have a look in Cavern (thanks Kumbu for the info)
Having tried all sorts over the years I would like to spend a night with a small lactating lass. Anyone any info/ideas where I might find such a lass?
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]Hi all, just want to say thanks to all the seniors here for their information which is much appreciated by this newbie anyway. Been thinking of going to LOS for over 10years, but never got around to it for some reason or another. Finally though I've bitten the bullet as they say and have booked my first trip in September for 2weeks in Patt's.
Going by the local read on here aswell, I think I'll be making the 'devil's den' one of my first stops.
Just a quick word with the mod if they read this, is if they're able to update the airport thread at all, or is it much the same for transportation as from 2years ago?[/QUOTE]
To get to pattaya from the airport you can get a taxi either a metered one or pre book, the bell bus or use another bus
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]
Just a quick word with the mod if they read this, is if they're able to update the airport thread at all, or is it much the same for transportation as from 2years ago?[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, the transportation from airport to either BKK or Patts are the same now as 2 years ago--no changes except 2 years ago the prices may have been cheaper by 15%-20%.
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]I will be making my regular 3/4 monthly visit to Pattaya from the depths of Isaan next week.
Will likely have a look in Cavern (thanks Kumbu for the info)... [/QUOTE]
I've not visited the Cavern yet either as it has only been open now for a week or so, but walking past the place one evening I noticed a sign outside which said that it is owned by the same people as Peppermint, Baccara, and Happy a-go-go's, all of which have stables of hot quality girls. Another plus is that they all feature happy hour pricing until 9:30pm and have staff who are not pushy for drinks or barfines.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]I noticed a sign outside which said that it is owned by the same people as Peppermint, Baccara, and Happy a-go-go's[/QUOTE]
I can confirm this. In my report, I describe how the girl I eventually BFed from Baccara disappeared for half an hour before I finally snagged her. Turns out her duties were to run down WS to Cavern to be a dancer in their Sexy Show. So she works at both places. Furthermore, she told me that the girls at Baccara, Cavern and Peppermint (didn't mention Happy, but I believe it) are all interchangeable, that is, they can work at any of these establishments that they like. The way it works is they have a 'Home' establishment where they are expected to turn up every night, and then they may get reassigned on an as-needed basis. So if you spy a cutie one night, and the next night she is not there, you may have to run through the list of these bars.
One downside is that you can't establish a 'regular' in each of these places with anonymity - the girls will talk, and you will be busted.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]...One downside is that you can't establish a 'regular' in each of these places with anonymity - the girls will talk, and you will be busted.[/QUOTE]
If I like the girl and she's willing, I always get her phone number after the first session so that she can become a 'regular' without the annoying necessity of barfines in the future, and can come to me in the afternoon in secret from her co-workers.
As I recall, "The Cavern" used to be called "Sister's," a mediocre go-go bar which went downhill in a hurry , largly IMHO, because of the very few cuties on the roster.
If The Cavern, which is a total rennovation and makeover, has created any improvement in atmosphere or talent, the joint will become a worthwhile stop on my rounds. I like the idea of girls swapping their work routines between these four different bars.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]If The Cavern, which is a total rennovation and makeover, has created any improvement in atmosphere or talent, the joint will become a worthwhile stop on my rounds. I like the idea of girls swapping their work routines between these four different bars.[/QUOTE]I was only in there 10 minutes or so, but as I sat there, there were around 15 girls milling around behind me, another 15 or so on stage, and a further 10 with various customers. On first glance, there were too many girls in there, i.e., there was so much to look at, it was hard to see quality through the quantity. But as I sat there sipping my drink and chatting with my girl and her friend, they were pointing individuals out to me who they were friends with. And as we did this, I saw that there are some very cute girls there.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]a sign outside which said that it is owned by the same people as Peppermint, Baccara, and Happy a-go-go's, all of which have stables of hot quality girls. Another plus is that they all feature happy hour pricing until 9:30pm and have staff who are not pushy for drinks or barfines.
[/QUOTE]I agree on this point for Baccara, Peppermint and Cavern (for the 10 minutes I was there). But recently, each time I go to Happy, I am hassled by the hostesses. I liked Happy before because you could go there, sip your 59B draft and watch the girls for as long as you wanted without any hassles. But the last three times I have been, the hostesses harass me. Yesterday. one of them told me that it was because there are not many customers, and so they are all a little desperate. But sorry, that kind of behavior means I wont be back to Happy, sadly.
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Seducing a Gogo Girl
The title of this post seems like an oxymoron of sorts. Why seduce a girl whose job it is to forgo the seduction for the sake of money? Well, she may be taking money to be sexed, but there are many ways she could sex you. I don't particularly enjoy the actual orgasm part of sex – I far (FAR) prefer all that precedes it. The groping, kissing, nuzzling, caressing, smelling, teasing, suckling, nibbling, biting, etc. I have found that a gogo girl will allow you to copulate, but if you want to really enjoy these more sensual things, you need to expend some energy and time in making her feel comfortable. She needs to feel invested in it to really open up to you, and this is my goal. The proverbial pearl within the oyster shell, and all that stuff. You could try to do it with extra money, but where's the challenge in that?
So with that in mind, back to the last installment of the jaw-droppingly long report on a single night. To summarize, here is what happens:
- Find out that the girl has a child
- End up talking on the bed for 30 minutes of so
- Shower and foreplay, during which I discover a new move, dubbed The Kumbu
- Orgasms galore
- sweaty, vigorous finish...sleep, and a happy end to our story.
As we are walking back to the hotel, she tells me about her child. She then explains that no matter what, she needs to leave by 3am so she can get home and prepare breakfast for her child. I thought to myself 'great, the best of both worlds.'. Since I am not a multiple popper, I don't really want the morning shag, and so I much prefer it when the girl leaves so I can sleep soundly. There was a discussion of this on this board a little while ago, so I'm sure some of you relate to this. Anyway, the plan then was to sex up until 3am, and then let her be on her way, and I was more than cool with that.
I did, however, protest, telling her that I consider a 3am departure ST not LT. She disagreed, putting forward a cogent argument: ST is 2-3 hours, rushed and off she goes. But the 3am thing is whatever I want to do for the next 4-5 hours, and she will give me the attention that LT demands. So I said I will only pay LT if I get special attention, to which she held out her pinky. I crooked her pinky with my pinky, and our bond was made.
We get into the hotel, and by now I am exhausted. My head is buzzing with fatigue, my eyes are barely open, and when I glance into the mirror I see they are blood shot. Crap. But I just spent hours scouring Pattaya's finest to get this beauty with a truly bejeweled ass into my room, I am sure as shit not going to crash. But things need to happen quickly, so as soon as we get in I suggest a shower. She scoffs and scolds me for being so pushy. Hmm. Is this how she milks it through to 3am? She says we should talk first and then take a shower later.
Ordinarily I would have pushed back. She is the one getting my money. She either puts out or fucks off – that's the regular deal, right? But I looked at her face, and into her sultry eyes, and through my bleary, blurry vision, I sensed something special might come from this. So I played along. She took off her little white dress and we lay on the bed, her in bra and panties, me fully clothed, and we talked for 15 minutes. Actually, SHE talked for 15 minutes, I listened, nodded, occasionally murmured my agreement. Meanwhile, I was caressing her bare legs, her soft belly, the top of her breasts, her neck, her back. Yummy, this was all good, albeit slower than I would have preferred. But during this process of careful examination of her body proportions, I came to fully appreciate the splendor of her body. She was, in my mind, phenomenally beautiful. She has exactly the proportions I desire: slender, sexy legs, large round ass, pert, full breasts, skinny waist, wide hips - it could not be better.
She told me more about her child, her now-dead husband, her previous falang boyfriend who she recently split up with, how she provides for her daughter, blah blah blah. The stories came so fast and thick, and I was in such a state of fatigue, I felt like (start metaphor) a boat that had been ripped from the dock in a storm, being thrashed around, pulled this way and that, and I was unsure if I would end up being smashed against the reef or some other boat, or whether I would end up (end metaphor) with my tongue deep inside her succulent pussy.
After I had patiently listened and shown my sensitive side, she pulled back with a somewhat quizzical expression on her face and said something about what a great listener I am. I thought, “Thanks, umm, can I taste your pussy now?” She held up her hand and pronounced in an authoritative voice: “Shower!” She pulls off her bra (mmm, tasty boobies) and instructs me that we shall shower together. She prances off to the shower while I rip off my clothes. Upon entering, she ogles my dick and mocks its size. Yeah, yeah, falang have big dicks. Big dicks with big wallets, chai may?
So she scrubs me down, lathers me up, washes me off, and dismisses me while she tends to herself. I do not object, and obediently dry off and wait in prey for her in the bed. She arrives, fully naked for the first time, fresh and clean. Fucking hell, the sight of that perfect body, fully naked and damp from the shower just boosted me into the stratosphere. Energy coarsed through my body like heroine as the plunger goes down. She was simply magnificent. A vision of divine beauty, if you believe in that kind of thing. Actually, millions of years of evolution have selected precisely these features she possesses as the most likely to lead to successful procreation, and it showed in the enormity of my erection.
She walked around the room switching off light after light, and as she did so my eyes were glued to her ass. I began the recitation of the sacred sacraments:
“Holy God of All That is Good, if you exist,
We thank you for this, our daily ass.
Hallowed be its name,
The Ass's will shall be done,
in the name of the left cheek, the right cheek, and the truly divine that is in between
Amen.”
She slipped into the sheets and started to giggle, thrashing around like a little puppy. She opened up and offered herself to me, and my hands were all over her in an instant. Such soft, firm skin, with perfect proportions, my dick was wet already. I kissed her neck, receiving a soft gasp. I moved closer to her ears, to which she responded very positively. I spent a few minutes there, all the while we were giggling and teasing each other. It was delightful. She slowly turned her back on me, which is somewhat unusual – it suggested a comfort with her ass which is relatively rare amongst Thai girls. So I kissed my way down to her shoulders and then down her back, gently blowing air onto the micro hairs on her back (again, getting soft murmurs of appreciation all the while). She was so responsive, so natural, and so warm, it was well worth that 15 minutes of small talk I endured. This was my just reward, and one that I goddam earned.
I got down to her hips, and rather than brutishly going straight into her butt flesh, I restrained myself. Well, sort of. I gently, sensuously kissed the top line of her ass, you know, where the butt meets the small of the back. As I did this, she arched her back – fuck yeah! Her now-rounded ass moved right into my waiting, greedy hands. I groped the fucking living hell out of her ass while I gently kissed her hip line. This mixture of textures, in a sense, really got her going – something I had not planned, and may very well use again. Let's call that move The Kumbu, shall we? You are free to use it, but please do so sparingly, and I would appreciate a reference.
So after a good long time working The Kumbu, I worked my way around to her belly. Poong pui, the ubiquitous refrain of gogo girls with respect to their bellies. Hers was mildly poong pui (I mean ever so slightly), but fuck I love that. So I kissed it for a while, and then slowly descended. I gently skipped over her pussy, getting a slightly startled look down from her, and started to kiss her thighs, inside and out. She groaned in appreciation. After a few moments of thigh-flesh sampling, I pulled up to her pussy. It was a well trimmed pussy, the hair styled into a thin one-inch vertical line right down the middle. The hair was soft, unlike most shaven pussies, which was great. I looked up at her and asked permission, to which she whispered her assent.
And so it began. Gentle, probing, soft, kissing. The pussy was fresh – she must have used one of those vaginal cleansers while in the shower (that's why she dismissed me) because it was just delicious. I whispered my appreciation of the quality, and she whispered her appreciation of the effort. As I worked my tongue, she would occasionally groan and gasp, but there was relatively little feedback. No 'Oh yeah', or 'right there', or 'faster'. Just the occasional groan and gasp. I worked it for a good 10 minutes until my leg (?) started to cramp up. Damn, so I had to change position, which broke the momentum, and I had to start all over again. No worries, I worked it for another 7-8 minutes and I was beginning to get tired again, when out of the blue she recoiled in an instant. It was as if I was hurting her, and she squealed a few times. Behold the pearl within the oyster: I recognized the signs of an orgasm, and I was fully gratified. She moaned in Thai about how she had finished (not sure what exactly she was saying, something like 'siao leew' – anyone care to translate this?), and that she needed a few moments because she was now sensitive.
She complained that she had tried to hold back but she came anyway so now she feels bad. I comforted her, telling her that it made me happy. Truth be told, I wanted to continue a little more – I had not really probed the inside of her pussy with my tongue, it had been almost entirely clit oriented. So after some convincing, we agree to shoot for #2. This time she was far more overtly responsive – groaning, wiggling, squirming, gasping, and coming in less than 5 minutes. She squealed some more about siao leew, and and we relaxed for a few moments to let her get her breath back. After a long 60 seconds, I indicated we should go for #3. She laughed, paused, and then petulantly heaved her hips upwards and stuck her pussy into my mouth!
So # 3 was a little different. I pulled her legs up in the air and above her head, revealing her pussy/asshole in a tight,close area. I worked her pussy from top to bottom, spending a good amount of time on the area between the pussy and asshole. Every once in a while I pulled back to take a look at her asshole, and it was...immaculate. I hesitated testing her limits, but after a few minutes I thougth 'to the bold go the spoils'. So I carefully slipped my tongue down onto her asshole and rimmed her for a few moments, enjoying the taboo of it. I expected her to pull back or indicate discomfort, as often happens, but she gasped and seemed to enjoy it, quite to my surprise. Her asshole was exquisite. It was a light pink color, a tight, tiny mound of flesh, and perfectly proportioned. As I gazed down at the hypnotic symmetry of her asshole, I thought to myself that this is where her shit comes through, and that I should be disgusted to do this, but damn it was intoxicating pleasure of the highest order.
So after a few moments of delightful rimming, I went back to her pussy and within 3 minutes #3 arrived. A few moments of gasping breathing and I held up four fingers with an inquisitive expression. She laughed, and she said ok, but this time with me inside her. I jumped up, dug through my luggage for my Walgreen's Trojans, popped one on, and slipped into her naturally, like a well-oiled sword into its sheath. She was not super tight, but far tighter than I expected, given her child. I didn't penetrate all the way, working about half my dick, and this worked well for her.
#4 arrived four or five minutes later, all the while in missionary position. That was a good signal to switch out, so we moved into cowgirl. This was surprisingly gratifying because for the first time I was able to pay attention to her large breasts. They're not ginormous, but very ample – more than a handful each. So I suckled while she bucked and gyrated. She did not come from CG, so after a few minutes of this I switched into doggie.
I know this is my weakness, and so I was expecting to end the whole thing here. This was the last scene in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, where Butch and Sundance are about to run out to face of the entire Bolivian army. Even though Sundance says he has a plan, there can be only one outcome.
She pulled up onto all fours, and rotated so I was staring right down into the eternal abyss. I sat there for a moment, dick in hand, looking at the beautiful sight of her haunches spread for me, awaiting my entrance, her head cocked looking back at me with a sly smile. Gentlemen, a more beautiful vision there is not in this world. This is what man was made for – to gaze down at a woman on all fours, waiting to be fucked. I then looked down at my dick, now the color of pomegranate. Hush little guy, you shall receive absolution. You have been disciplined, so please enter this holy place now, and confess thy sins. With that, Little Kumbu entered her sanctified temple, and a few heaves later, collapsed upon the alter of lust in a sweaty, gasping pile of spent Kumbu.
The rest is a blur. She showered, we cuddled for an indeterminate amount of time, and as 3am approached, she asked for permission to leave. I was asleep within moments of the door closing behind her. She left with a smile on her face and 2000 Baht in her purse.
At 6:15am, a mere 3 hours after I fell asleep, I was wide awake, unable to hide from the pangs of jet lag. Damn, this is going to be a tough day.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]...I agree on this point for Baccara, Peppermint and Cavern (for the 10 minutes I was there). But recently, each time I go to Happy, I am hassled by the hostesses. I liked Happy before because you could go there, sip your 59B draft and watch the girls for as long as you wanted without any hassles. But the last three times I have been, the hostesses harass me. Yesterday. one of them told me that it was because there are not many customers, and so they are all a little desperate. But sorry, that kind of behavior means I wont be back to Happy, sadly.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Happy is one of my favorite bars, mainly because I almost never get hassled there. I don't like to be approached unless it's by my own invitation. Once or twice, a hostess (why does it always have to be the most unnattractive one?) has sat next to me wanting my attention. I just tell them I already have a lady and shoo them off. I wouldn't let it deter me from going back all else being equal.
I'll probably be there tonight. If I get hassled, I'll go to the Cavern.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07](why does it always have to be the most unnattractive one?) has sat next to me wanting my attention. [/QUOTE]
LOL!
I thought it was only me.
It must be some variant of murphy's law - it is always the ugly one that you don't want that sits next to you and never the spinner you want.
Rule of life discovered.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]Let's call that move The Kumbu, shall we? You are free to use it, but please do so sparingly, and I would appreciate a reference.
.[/QUOTE]Don't want to burst any bubbles here, but I've been doing that move since I was 16, I'm 37 now and I can confirm that if done right, unrushed, it works everytime. (from my experience anyway).
I've always said that a person can only be born an assman, and the women know the immatators.
This definately sounded like a hot session, hopefully the rest of your adventures in patts will be just as fruitful. I look forward to reading more of your exploits. Hopefully some pics aswell.
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One for the hall of fame, Kumbu!!! Truly well done. Btw, after tasting the sweet pink knot with your tongue, why didn't you explore it with little Kimbu?
[QUOTE=Kumbu]The title of this post seems like an oxymoron of sorts. Why seduce a girl whose job it is to forgo the seduction for the sake of money? Well, she may be taking money to be sexed, but there are many ways she could sex you. I don't particularly enjoy the actual orgasm part of sex – I far (FAR) prefer all that precedes it. The groping, kissing, nuzzling, caressing, smelling, teasing, suckling, nibbling, biting, etc. I have found that a gogo girl will allow you to copulate, but if you want to really enjoy these more sensual things, you need to expend some energy and time in making her feel comfortable. She needs to feel invested in it to really open up to you, and this is my goal. The proverbial pearl within the oyster shell, and all that stuff. You could try to do it with extra money, but where's the challenge in that?
... this is going to be a tough day.[/QUOTE]
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Bottoms up!
I wonder if any well travelled person can clear something up for me. I remmember surfing the net once not too long ago and found a little note some where about a club/bar called 'bottoms up'. Looked and sounded interesting enough to perhaps include it in one of the places to visit, but for the life of me can't seem to be able to recall whether it's in Pattaya or Bangkok. All my searching so far has come up empty. Has anyone here been, seen or know of the place and where it is?
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]Don't want to burst any bubbles here, but I've been doing that move since I was 16[/QUOTE] Ahh, beaten to the punch. No worries, I have no commitment to owning the move. What shall we call it then, The AF?
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[QUOTE=Sandy Men]One for the hall of fame, Kumbu!!! Truly well done. Btw, after tasting the sweet pink knot with your tongue, why didn't you explore it with little Kimbu?[/QUOTE]That was certainly part of the plan, but you know the deal with best laid plans and all that. Truthfully, I only lasted a few strokes in doggie position, so there was no opportunity to probe further. But I do intend to return to see this beauty, and see if I can drill that well.
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]Don't want to burst any bubbles here, but I've been doing that move since I was 16, I'm 37 now and I can confirm that if done right, unrushed, it works everytime. (from my experience anyway).
I've always said that a person can only be born an assman, and the women know the immatators.
This definately sounded like a hot session, hopefully the rest of your adventures in patts will be just as fruitful. I look forward to reading more of your exploits. Hopefully some pics aswell.[/QUOTE]
AF,
" Don't want to burst any bubbles here " you're only 37, I'm 21 years older than you and I'm been doing that move before you were born and it was taught to me so this move got to be really old? But I'm sure you added a twist and now it's your's. I like to believe I did the same?
But you're right you can only be born an assman. Starting to sound like one of the old Seinfeld episodes.
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]AF,
" Don't want to burst any bubbles here " you're only 37, I'm 21 years older than you and I'm been doing that move before you were born and it was taught to me so this move got to be really old? But I'm sure you added a twist and now it's your's. I like to believe I did the same?
But you're right you can only be born an assman. Starting to sound like one of the old Seinfeld episodes.
LBM[/QUOTE]
LBM, I've got five years or so on you and the move was taught to me when I was at university, so I guess it's been around for a long, long time.
GE
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[QUOTE=GoodEnough]LBM, I've got five years or so on you and the move was taught to me when I was at university, so I guess it's been around for a long, long time.
GE[/QUOTE]
GE,
Now its confirmed it has been around a long long long time. Maybe we should start a club for this? It's cheaper than having to go to college to learn it?
I was just on Soi 6, the other evening and took one for the team. Cute white skin girl 25 years old no kids that look sixteen. Nice natural body but was just burn by her first boyfriend in the hometown and only been working for 8 days. Limited English and got as much as I could confirm in terms of service so I took my chances. As soon as we went upstair I had doubts, confirm great natural body but she didn't want to DFK, very juicy pussy but I had to teach her how to give a BBBJ, which kills LBM erection! In the end had her doggy and moaning ( most likely fake ) lick my right thumb and slipped it right into her ass and stroke it half dozen times. Nice body but won't take her again in fact I want another girl who works there but not sure how to go about it without pissing her off.
Enjoy LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan] I had to teach her how to give a BBBJ, which kills LBM erection! [/QUOTE]
LOL. I feel your pain. At least she didn't use a condom. CBJ is like erection death for like a day at least.
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish] Don't want to burst any bubbles here, but I've been doing that move since I was 16, I'm 37[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I'm 21 years older than you and I'm been doing that move before you were born and it was taught to me so this move got to be really old?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Good Enough]I've got five years or so on you and the move was taught to me when I was at university, so I guess it's been around for a long, long time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Now its confirmed it has been around a long long long time.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen, ever heard of Rosalind Franklin? She was the person who originally discovered the structure of DNA. Unfortunately, she is not the one cited as the discoverer of DNA. That honor falls to Watson and Crick, who were the first to *publish* their research.
Being the first to publish a description of the move, I hereby claim discovery of said move, and officially dub it The Kumbu™.
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Gogo, v, intransitive. To frequent, attend, and participate in the business of a gogo
I've decided to make gogo into a verb, as in:
- I [I]gogo[/I] whenever I have the opportunity.
- When [I]gogoing[/I], one must be careful to hydrate
- Once upon a time, there [I]gogoed[/I] three men.
- To [I]gogo[/I] is human.
I believe it must be an intransitive verb, e.g., one cannot say 'I gogoed my best friend', meaning I took my best friend to a gogo bar, or 'Kumbu was gogoed by his best friend.' Anyway, that's my contribution to linguistics.
So. I'm back in Pattaya for a couple of nights of gogoing. I shall gogo until I am gogoed out. And of course, expect a report or two.
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]I wonder if any well travelled person can clear something up for me. I remmember surfing the net once not too long ago and found a little note some where about a club/bar called 'bottoms up'. Looked and sounded interesting enough to perhaps include it in one of the places to visit, but for the life of me can't seem to be able to recall whether it's in Pattaya or Bangkok. All my searching so far has come up empty. Has anyone here been, seen or know of the place and where it is?[/QUOTE]The only "Bottoms Up" bar I can think of is the famous one in Hong Kong (Wan Chai). Shown in a James Bond movie. I'm pretty sure it closed down a few years ago.
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Go go gobbledegook :)
[QUOTE=Kumbu]I've decided to make gogo into a verb, as in:
- I [I]gogo[/I] whenever I have the opportunity.
- When [I]gogoing[/I], one must be careful to hydrate
- Once upon a time, there [I]gogoed[/I] three men.
- To [I]gogo[/I] is human.
I believe it must be an intransitive verb, e.g., one cannot say 'I gogoed my best friend', meaning I took my best friend to a gogo bar, or 'Kumbu was gogoed by his best friend.' Anyway, that's my contribution to linguistics.
So. I'm back in Pattaya for a couple of nights of gogoing. I shall gogo until I am gogoed out. And of course, expect a report or two.[/QUOTE]
I am agog at the post. I guess you must have too much time on your hands at work. Go and get gogoed. :)
Cheers
Expatcat
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]I wonder if any well travelled person can clear something up for me. I remmember surfing the net once not too long ago and found a little note some where about a club/bar called 'bottoms up'. Looked and sounded interesting enough to perhaps include it in one of the places to visit, but for the life of me can't seem to be able to recall whether it's in Pattaya or Bangkok. All my searching so far has come up empty. Has anyone here been, seen or know of the place and where it is?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure of one in bangkok or pattaya but there is one on tsimshatsui in hong kong. famous for the james bond scene being filmed there(the man with the golden gun). used to go there when i worked there 12 years or so ago but it wasn't really a very good place, only worth going cos they used to have gwailos working there topless and made a nice change from seeing flippers tits. maybe you thought it was in thailand cos a lot of that movie was shot there?
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]AF,
Starting to sound like one of the old Seinfeld episodes.
LBM[/QUOTE]hahahaha, so true, it's all said in a bit of fun, you know i've added a twist, a swirl, a tug and a pinch and have called it 'the dimitri'
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Going Rate
Want to make sure I don't under or over pay. Last year in Bangkok it seemed the average BF was 600 and the typical agreed price for ST was 1, 500 (the initial demand was typically 2, 000). LT, when offered, varied a great deal.
But it's supposed to be less in Pattaya right? What would you say is the average BF, initial demand, and final agreed price for the average WG in Patts, and how much for stunners? ST and LT.
Thanks guys.
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Kumbu Strikes Again
This is the beginning of a multi-part write up. As usual, much of it is mundane and background stuff, so not for everyone. But I'm hoping some of it is for some people.
I was in much better shape this time around than last time. My last visit to Pattaya was full of blurry memories, jetlagged fatigue and sluggish physicality. This time around, I have had several days of rest and recuperation (relatively), and I am ready to go.
The last time around, I sampled a tasty cutie from Baccara: perfect ass, perfect legs, superb attitude, loads and loads of fun. It would be tough to top that, but shit, that's what Pattaya exists for: to challenge the bounds of reason.
I just missed the 3pm bus from Ekkamai, so I had to sit in the sweltering heat for 25 minutes for the 3:30. As we came down, there was a ridiculous amount of truck traffic on the highway, making for slow going. Then around half an hour outside Pattaya we hit road construction, and so we were in stop-and-start traffic for 20 minutes. So I expected our arrival to be significantly delayed, but to my surprise, we arrived in Pattaya at exactly 5:50. So all the traffic and construction added 15-20 minutes to the trip.
Baht bus to hotel, shower, shave, and I sat down in front of the mirror for some serious soul searching. “Ok Kumbu, look me straight in the eyes and tell me what your plan is for tonight. Are you after madness or divinity? Perversion or sensuality? Filth or...well, is there anything other than filth?”
I looked myself in the eyes and thought long and hard. My answer? “Well, Kumbu, here's what I would like: I would like some perverted godly madness in a filthy sensual skin. Can I have some of that please?”
But more to the point, I really had to decide the practicals. Do I go back to Baccara for round 2 with rimming delightful cutie? Or do I try for something new? I decided I would hedge my bets. I would troll the bars and streets, and should I find something better, then I go for that. Should I not, then Baccara it is, on the hope that my girl has not been snapped up by some drunk fat bastard.
I also decided to do an experiment. I usually dress casual but clean, and I get a reasonable reception from the girls. I dress in jeans or slacks of some sort, and I usually wear a short-sleeved collared-shirt – nothing too fancy or spiffy, but clean and respectable (in the eyes of Thai girls at least). Truth be told, I would *never* dress this way in America – it is a very nerdy look. But girls here like it.
This time I decided I would dress up a little and see whether there is a noticeable difference in attention I get. And I wonder if the quotations for price would be higher with fancier dressing. By fancy dressing, it is relative of course, given that the majority of guys in Pattaya are wearing filthy t-shirts, ragged shorts and flip-flops.
I pulled out my finest linen shirt, a fresh pair of jeans, slapped on some hair gel, and then slapped on some more hair gel just for good measure. Ok, so not very fancy, but the linen shirt was really quite fetching. As I walked out of the room, I looked myself in the mirror one last time and said 'Go get 'em tiger.'