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The Minutia of Hunting
This is part 2 of my 3-part series. This one has no sex in it, just musings about gogo hopping on a sweaty Monday night in Pattaya.
I walked out into the balmy Pattaya evening and headed towards WS. It was around 8pm, and I knew this was too early. So I stopped by Mr Sandwich and had a falafel. Not terribly god, but it got some calories into me. Then down to the far end of WS for a pick-me-up.
“A short Americano with two extra shots...yes two EXTRA shots...no, a triple Americano...yes, three shots total...short...three...thank you. Take out.”
I sat and sipped my beautiful brew for 30 minutes or so, and then strolled back down WS. I noticed that I was getting more 'welcoooooome' catcalls, to which I was more than happy to attribute to the linen shirt and extra hair gel.
My task was a tricky one. I had to troll the gogo bars, but I could not go to Baccara, Peppermint, or Cavern since that's where my girl and her gang reside. Furthermore, I could not go to Roxy or Naughty girl or Super Girl since there were girls in there who had a proprietary take on our relationship. So that left the choices kind of thin. Here were the options:
-Angelwitch
-Beach Club
- Happy
- Diamond
- SuperBaby
- Airport
- the one next to it, forget its name, Iron?
- Dollhouse
- Club Misty
- Shark
-One of the smaller rip-off joints like Cozy or Sweethearts.
- Or one of the slutty ones like Windmill or Babydolls
SuperBaby is out, for pricing and doll-like appearance reasons, Beach Club is out because girls are too skinny for me, Diamond is out because I've never had any luck there, Dollhouse is out because of my experience there last week, I don't care for the look of the girls in Iron, Club Misty sucks IMHO, as does Shark, and I'm not into being trapped in places like Cozy or watching banana-ice-fucking at Windmill. So that left Airport, Angelwitch and Happy. In that order.
[B]Airport[/B]
Airport at 9pm had exactly 21 girls milling around (maybe some were in the back), and 9 customers, including Kumbu. The girls were rather subdued – the place had no energy, which is most unusual for Airport. I sat there for 15 minutes sipping a Coke, hoping no one would notice me. There were two girls who were kinda cute. One girl was heavy-thighed and big-butted, but she seemed to think a little too highly of herself. Another girl had the sweetest, sexiest face, with a slightly thick waistline. But long, sexy legs. Nothing inspired the most demanding Kumbu, and so I was intent on leaving. I was trying to stay as long as I could because it was hot out there and I wanted to cool down, but a girl eventually came and sat next to me. So I quickly grabbed my ticket and paid up.
[B]Angelwitch[/B]
Walked into the steamy night, and up the soi to Angelwitch. Sat there with my Coke Light for 20 minutes looking at the rather uninspired offerings. There were 16 girls on stage, wearing their red fishnet stockings, but not even one of them were Kumbu-worthy. One of the waitresses who knows me from my various escapades in Pattaya chatted with me the whole time, trying to get me to commit (in a non-pushy way), but I told her flat out that there was no one that did it for me.
[B]Smarmy English bastard[/B]
So off I go at around 9:35pm. Rather than head back down to WS, I went the other way, deeper into the soi, turned right, to Second Street, and then right again. This leads to a soi that can take you back down to WS. As I was walking down second street, a taxi pulls up and this white guy fiddles his way out and hops onto the sidewalk. I don't look at him, but through my peripheral vision, I notice that he is pale, sweaty, and very shifty-eyed. I already don't like the guy - He seems very...smarmy. Anyway, he sees me and in an English accent says to me:
Sweaty, Smarmy, Shifty-Eyed English Bloke: “Do you speak English?
Kumbu: mm-hmm
SSSEB: Do you know your way around here by any chance? I haven't a clue where I am.
K: mm-hmm
SSSEB: Do you know where Tower Hotel is?
K: Tower...umm....nope, sorry.
SSSEB: Are you English?
K: No, American
SSSEB: aw. Well anyway, it doesn't sound good, but I've just been with a Thai prostitute...
K: as have we all.
SSSEB: umm...yeah...anyway, she...blimey, you look like Thai people...
K: I'm not Thai people
SSSEB: That's not meant in a bad way. Anyway, she grabbed me wallet and took off while I was in the shower, and she stole 1000 quid, and I now don' t have a cent on me -
K: You need to go to the police, and don't you mean penny?
SSSEB: Umm, well I did, but the bastards told me all I can do is go to my consulate.
K: Yeah, that's right, and did you?
SSSEB: Well, no, but you see, the thing is I have to phone home coz me mum, you see, she's sick and I have to talk to her, otherwise she gets very upset. So all I really need is 10 quid...
K: (slaps SSSEB on his sweaty shoulder) Good luck my friend, I've never heard of Tower hotel, I hope you find it, take care. (walks away).
SSSEB: (sarcasm) Well thanks very much for your help, mate.
Asshole. Now that I think about it, I saw this very same guy in February, and back then he did the very same thing, and I reacted in exactly the same way. So this is his shtick. Beware of Sweaty, Smarmy, Shifty-Eyed English Bloke.
[B]Happy Agogo[/B]
I went on my way to Happy Agogo. Ok, so I often go to Happy just to get a drink and admire the girls. There are three girls that I like to look at, and two of the three often give me subtle glances. The third one does not know I exist. She usually takes one look at me and that's the end of that. She has a really attractive face – it is a classic kind of Asian beauty, with high cheek bones, large eyes, and a really sophisticated feel to it. She does not smile, and just looks very model-esque. Nice to look at, but I think she would be high-cost and low-service. But still, very pleasant to watch while you sip your cold drink. So I was hoping she would be there to provide Kumbu with some visual therapy.
I walked in and the usher tried to stick me on a stool at the dance floor. Does he not know me yet? I do not do that – I need to be able to see the whole stage and see the whole girl. When you are up against the tree trunks you really can't see the whole tree, let alone the forest. So I wandered around the back until I found a suitable table a few feet from the stage.
I sat down, ordered my drink, and looked over the girls. Right before me was a new girl I had not seen before and she's looking right at me. We lock eye gaze, and she gives a sideways wink, I pucker my lips ever so slightly, she smiles and alluringly turns away. For the next five minutes we played looksies, but after a while the rotation of the girls took her out of my eyesight, so I turned my attention to the other girls.
And there she stood, the beauty of Happy, the one I was hoping would be there to sooth Kumbu's appetite for visual genius. She had just gotten onto the stage, and she was dancing her sophisticated dance, looking beautiful and everything, without a trace of a smile. And unusually, and to my great astonishment, she was looking right at me. This was surprisingly discomforting. I realized in that moment there is great safety in anonymity. She was looking right at me, and so I could not gaze unfettered at her to my heart's delight. Why was she doing this to me? Ah yes, linen and gel.
So now I played looksies with her for the next 10 minutes, and then I decided I just was not ready to commit to her, not even buy her a drink. I am not ready to play in this big league – I am an admirer, not a player, at least not with girls of this attitude. I was not in the mood for a high maintenance girl, and I kind of wanted to keep Happy as my safe-drink place. So I paid up before the rotation took her off the stage and I left without so much as a goodbye or a parting tip. Hopefully she will remember me as a cheap asshole and never pay me any attention again. That way I can come in and just look at her fine classic face and not be bothered with the whole lady drink, BF affair.
What to do next? I did not find anyone that even came close to my rimmer from Baccara. Do I feel like some rimming tonight? Maybe some anal? See, the downside to this girl is that she is a really energetic one. She is high energy, and she will drain me, both physically and mentally. Am I up for that? Well, let's see. I decided to go for it.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
[B]Airport[/B]
Airport at 9pm had exactly 21 girls milling around (maybe some were in the back), and 9 customers, including Kumbu. The girls were rather subdued – the place had no energy, which is most unusual for Airport. I sat there for 15 minutes sipping a Coke, hoping no one would notice me. There were two girls who were kinda cute. One girl was heavy-thighed and big-butted, but she seemed to think a little too highly of herself. Another girl had the sweetest, sexiest face, with a slightly thick waistline. But long, sexy legs. Nothing inspired the most demanding Kumbu, and so I was intent on leaving. [/QUOTE]
I've noticed that Airport has really gone downhill in the last year or so. They used to have some good looking slim girls, but now they seem to be fat and below par.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu] She moaned in Thai about how she had finished (not sure what exactly she was saying, something like 'siao leew' – anyone care to translate this?), and that she needed a few moments because she was now sensitive.
She complained that she had tried to hold back but she came anyway so now she feels bad. I comforted her, telling her that it made me happy. Truth be told, I wanted to continue a little more – I had not really probed the inside of her pussy with my tongue, it had been almost entirely clit oriented. So after some convincing, we agree to shoot for #2. This time she was far more overtly responsive – groaning, wiggling, squirming, gasping, and coming in less than 5 minutes. She squealed some more about siao leew, and and we relaxed for a few moments to let her get her breath back. After a long 60 seconds, I indicated we should go for #3. She laughed, paused, and then petulantly heaved her hips upwards and stuck her pussy into my mouth!
[/QUOTE]Siaow translates rather interestingly. The first time I had a girl use it I assumed she was saying that she was turned on and excited. And when I looked it up in my dictionary, I was happy to see that it said, "the feel of the thrill of lust. " But then I saw the next definition for it which was "the feel of a sudden pain! " In subsequent trysts with young ladies, there have been several that shout, "siao, " and thrust my head/tongue into their nether regions at full force. But then there have also been a few who yell, "siao, " and try to push me away! So take your pick, just remember that whatever it is, it is damn exciting! (there is also the meaning of siao as in the thrill of sudden fear!)
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Prices
[QUOTE=Mong1225]Want to make sure I don't under or over pay. Last year in Bangkok it seemed the average BF was 600 and the typical agreed price for ST was 1, 500 (the initial demand was typically 2, 000). LT, when offered, varied a great deal.
But it's supposed to be less in Pattaya right? What would you say is the average BF, initial demand, and final agreed price for the average WG in Patts, and how much for stunners? ST and LT.
Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]
Prices are still 1500 LT 1000 ST and that is for Bar girls!
Disco girls are 1000 LT !
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[QUOTE=Oldian] I looked it up in my dictionary, I was happy to see that it said, "the feel of the thrill of lust. " But then I saw the next definition for it which was "the feel of a sudden pain! " [/QUOTE]Thanks for this, it is very helpful. I think my girl was using it to mean sudden pain, in that, after one has an orgasm, one often feels overly sensitive. She clearly was sensitive all over her body and could not be touched for at least 60 seconds afterwards. But before the orgasm, no mention of siaow leew.
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[QUOTE=Oldian]I was happy to see that it said, "the feel of the thrill of lust. " But then I saw the next definition for it which was "the feel of a sudden pain! " [/QUOTE]
These are the kinds of ambiguities that are really frustrating in some languages. In Vietnamese for example, SAD and BORED are the same word. There's another one like that, it's not coming to mind at the moment, but it's 2 pretty-much opposite-meaning adjectives that use the same word. Whoever invented this language should be fired.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]There's another one like that, it's not coming to mind at the moment, but it's 2 pretty-much opposite-meaning adjectives that use the same word. Whoever invented this language should be fired.[/QUOTE]Maybe you're thinking of 'klai' (near) and 'klai' (far)? You really do have to wonder what genius thought that up. Though to be fair, the first one is a falling tone, so to Thai ears it's a completely different word.
'Siao' (rising tone) is used for any keen, piercing sensation, whether painful, surprising, or arousing. I've had passengers in my car use it, meaning that my driving scared them. Sensodyne, the toothpaste, is labeled as being for 'siao fan' ('fan' is teeth). And so on, though hopefully anyone on these forums will hear it mainly in its sexual context. In that case it just means, ooh yes, carry on!
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
[B]Smarmy English bastard[/B]
So off I go at around 9:35pm. Rather than head back down to WS, I went the other way, deeper into the soi, turned right, to Second Street, and then right again. This leads to a soi that can take you back down to WS. As I was walking down second street, a taxi pulls up and this white guy fiddles his way out and hops onto the sidewalk. I don't look at him, but through my peripheral vision, I notice that he is pale, sweaty, and very shifty-eyed. I already don't like the guy - He seems very...smarmy. Anyway, he sees me and in an English accent says to me:
Sweaty, Smarmy, Shifty-Eyed English Bloke: “Do you speak English?
Kumbu: mm-hmm
SSSEB: Do you know your way around here by any chance? I haven't a clue where I am.
K: mm-hmm
SSSEB: Do you know where Tower Hotel is?
K: Tower...umm....nope, sorry.
SSSEB: Are you English?
K: No, American
SSSEB: aw. Well anyway, it doesn't sound good, but I've just been with a Thai prostitute...
K: as have we all.
SSSEB: umm...yeah...anyway, she...blimey, you look like Thai people...
K: I'm not Thai people
SSSEB: That's not meant in a bad way. Anyway, she grabbed me wallet and took off while I was in the shower, and she stole 1000 quid, and I now don' t have a cent on me -
K: You need to go to the police, and don't you mean penny?
SSSEB: Umm, well I did, but the bastards told me all I can do is go to my consulate.
K: Yeah, that's right, and did you?
SSSEB: Well, no, but you see, the thing is I have to phone home coz me mum, you see, she's sick and I have to talk to her, otherwise she gets very upset. So all I really need is 10 quid...
K: (slaps SSSEB on his sweaty shoulder) Good luck my friend, I've never heard of Tower hotel, I hope you find it, take care. (walks away).
SSSEB: (sarcasm) Well thanks very much for your help, mate.
Asshole. Now that I think about it, I saw this very same guy in February, and back then he did the very same thing, and I reacted in exactly the same way. So this is his shtick. Beware of Sweaty, Smarmy, Shifty-Eyed English Bloke.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I had the same conversation with an English guy back in November. Wouldn't have said that he was particularly smarmy, but then perhaps I am myself... What a worrying thought.
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I used to live with a Taiwanese girl who spoke taiwanese, English and mandarin fluently. There are 5 sounds in mandarin. We would fool around with some words that had the same spelling but different sound-meaning but my western ear could only HEAR 3 of the tones much less say them...
[QUOTE=Betong]Maybe you're thinking of 'klai' (near) and 'klai' (far)? You really do have to wonder what genius thought that up. Though to be fair, the first one is a falling tone, so to Thai ears it's a completely different word.
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Hey Guys
Am about to be back in Pattaya and am going to hook up with a girl who I met last year. She wants to know if there is any boy bar equivalent of the agogo bars that we can go to together. Obviously I know there are places where gays go, but anywhere as a couple that we can not look totally out of place....we are both pretty open minded
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[QUOTE=Wendella]These are the kinds of ambiguities that are really frustrating in some languages. In Vietnamese for example, SAD and BORED are the same word. There's another one like that, it's not coming to mind at the moment, but it's 2 pretty-much opposite-meaning adjectives that use the same word. Whoever invented this language should be fired.[/QUOTE]Probably same as with the use of sanuk, since it is always used to describe any kind of pleasurable experience, yet can limit an explanation. I once took a girl to go see History of Violence or whatever the name of that Viggo Mortenson film was. I thought the film was very well done, very intense, but also had a lot of blood and guts and certainly not the easiest film to watch or relax to. When the movie finished, the girl looked at me and said, "sanuk mai? " Yeah, it was a good film, but was it fun or a pleasurable experience? I think I'd rather use another word.
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Baby Boom A Gogo
Near Oasis in Soi Buakhaow.
Little hole-in-the-wall place, totally empty when Oasis was packed. Only a handful of girls, but proportionately more cuties than Oasis. I ended up upstairs with 2 girls, 1000 each plus barfines (500 and 600). At least they didn't charge for the room. The one girl got really horny and rode herself to an orgasm, which made the younger girl I did first jealous, so she hopped on again as well to catch up.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]Near Oasis in Soi Buakhaow.
Little hole-in-the-wall place, totally empty when Oasis was packed. Only a handful of girls, but proportionately more cuties than Oasis. I ended up upstairs with 2 girls, 1000 each plus barfines (500 and 600). At least they didn't charge for the room. The one girl got really horny and rode herself to an orgasm, which made the younger girl I did first jealous, so she hopped on again as well to catch up.[/QUOTE]Where exactly is this place? How old were the girls?
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Wisdom is knowing a good thing when you see it.
Part III. Here, I pull the same girl from Baccara as I pulled a few days previously. We do pretty much the same as before, plus one extra, very interesting twist (which comes in the next post).
I walked in to Baccara, and it was much emptier than usual. But it's a Monday night. The waiters recognize me and they all descend like a pack of wolves to the kill. I am engulfed in waiter-hands, some giving excessive wai, some grabbing my elbow to motion me towards the execution site, which has already been identified – a lounge chair in the middle of the stage. I am taken on the wave of waiters to the chair and carefully placed in my place, awaiting the arrival of the executioner. Within seconds, the dreaded ass-wielding executioner arrives. I feel the mixture of trepidation and excitement as I look slowly upwards at her. Standing on stage right in front of me, topless, wearing white straps up her right leg, standing with her arms akimbo looking down at me like the sentenced-criminal about to be put to the ax (or ass, as the case may be). I manage a frightened smile at her, and she turns her back and pokes her rounded ass at me.
Fuck yeah.
I'll skip the niceties – I paid her BF (600B), waited while she got dressed and off we went. Upon exit, she asks me if I want to go back to the hotel or have a drink in Cavern. This is obviously a way for her to curry favor with the folks at Cavern – she brings some schmuck in to drop cash there, it obviously does her cred a great deal of good. I know how the game works, and I understand how it helps her. So I put it to her plainly: whatever I spend at Cavern comes out of what I pay her at the end of the night. I was sure she would opt for the hotel, but to my complete and utter amazement, she chose the Cavern option. Very interesting. The power of society.
So we go to Cavern, and upon entry, I am greeted like a superstar. Waiters here too engulf me, all slapping me on the back, one guy giving me a shoulder rub, each jostling with each other for the chance to serve this lamb at the slaughterhouse. We finally order a drink each, and she asks me to buy mama san a drink. No problem, it is YOUR money I'm spending anyway. Then she asks me to buy her friend a drink. Ditto, YOUR money. But it was amazing to watch her, because this was getting her positively high. The fact that she had this guy dropping drinks for people he was not even going to fuck made her look like a frikkin' rain master. All the other girls were coming over and congratulating her on hooking a sucker and telling her what a great catch I was. I don't understand Thai all that well, but it was pretty obvious what was happening. But wtf, this is HER money, and I am a player in this show that is designed to enhance her own personal image. If it makes me look like a dufus, I don't care. I calculated that it is not costing me any money, but it is helping her feel good about herself. This will invariably translate into positive karma in the bedroom.
While at Cavern, they had a Sekksi Shoh which I must comment on, as I just loved it. They dimmed the lights, cranked up the UV light and out walked these naked girls who had been adorned with body art using fluorescent ink. They had flowers, various birds of flight, other animals, sea shells, painted onto their bodies with fluorescent ink – bright oranges, greens, yellows, it was beautiful. But the clincher was a guy came out with the girls, and he sat down on the stage and one of the girls comes over to him and presented her bare back to him. Then over the next 2-3 minutes, with his paint brush and collection of six fluorescent dyes, he proceeded to create a bright, glowing, spectacular mural on this girl's back. It was a scene of two cocks (roosters) fighting, which is an odd thing to paint, but it was awesome watching it all come together, on the back of this naked woman.
Anyway, I think this is not unique to Cavern, since as soon as the show was over, the artist took off, and my girl told me that he was going to some other club. But it was well worth my time and I applauded louder than anyone else there. A little embarrassing.
[UPDATE: Since that night, I have seen the same kind of thing a couple of times, once in Pattaya, once in Bangkok, so not particularly unique. But great the first time you see it.]
So, I paid up, with the total cost coming to 600B, including tip. We walked over to the hotel, and we showered immediately. She went in first, and I putzed around for a while, until I heard her scream for me: “Tilaaaaak! You no shower wiz me?” Drop pants, linen shirt flies, Kumbu scampering, little Kumbu flapping painfully in the meanwhile.
She soaped me up nice and good, as I did for her as well. That ass was just phenomenal – round, firm , lustrous – it was like a perfect, caffe-latte-colored football, glistening and soapy, awaiting my tongue and lips later tonight. I was horny as hell, and she knew it.
She exits, I wash the little bits she had not managed to get fingers into, and out I go. As I exit, she says:
Cutie: Can I eat you today?
K: You can do whatever you want baby.
Cutie: But it's ok for me to eat you? Last time you eat me three times, but I no eat you.
K: You can eat me, and I can eat you at the same time.
Cutie: Ah, 69, I see.
K: You DO see, don't you?
We never actually did get to the 69, but that's ok. We start to kiss. In the previous session, she had not given me any DFK. She had done lots of kissing, but it was all close-mouthed. Actually, I don't care for the DFK except in that it indicates that what is to follow will be passionate and hot. But if I can get the passionate and hot without the DFK, I am a happy camper. I guess I am conservative in this one way – I prefer not to DFK with someone I am not in fact emotionally intimate with. Weird, I know, but there you have it.
This time, she began to open up her kisses. Her lips would spread a little, revealing some moisture and warmth. But it was not really DFK, more like light FK. But FK nonetheless. We did this for a while, and I just could not contain myself – I had to have her pussy in my mouth again, and I told her as much. She agreed, but she said afterwards she wanted to satisfy me. Ok, whatever, just get that pussy into this here hungry mouth please.
The routine was pretty much like the last time – lots of soft cunnilingus, this time with her being more responsive and noisy in her appreciation. She came after 10-12 minutes of tongue-push-ups, and that was plenty long for me. I was cramping up, but it was worth it.
She was sensitive afterwards, but 5 minutes later she flipped me over and started to suck my dick. Her technique was not particularly noteworthy except in its conspicuous absence of skill – she struggled to find a rhythm, but tried her best, bless her heart. I let her struggle for a good 5 minutes before I put her out of her difficulty. I pulled her up and faked a gasping, breathy, 'Ohmygod, stop before I come.' She sensed the stretch of truth, but appreciated my effort to save face for her.
Next up: Trojans. She reaches over and grabs it, rips off the wrapper with her teeth and inspects it. She notices that it is non-lubricated and asks 'No gel?'. Kumbu: 'No gel, you no like?' And she says 'Never try with no gel.'
She licks her fingers, rubs her pussy a little, slaps the cover on little Kumbu, and mounts up. She's a small girl, maybe 5'1”, weighing in at an eye-popping 46kg, most of it on her butt. So she was a little ginger in the insertion. She carefully sat down, unable to sit all the way. So she leaned forward and we started the gentle rocking. My hands were on her ass the whole time, squeezing, spreading, fondling.
3 minutes later, she leans over onto her side and maneuvers me such that we are in the spooning position, me entering her from behind. I love this position – hands have the choice of breasts or butt, you get full view of her large hips, it's awesome. This lasted a further 3 minutes before I felt an orgasm coming, so I immediately pulled out and changed into missionary. I can do missionary until the roosters sing – it's my safe position. So we went at it for 5 minutes or so before she got bored.
I sensed she was really trying to get me to orgasm, not because she was trying to end it soon, but because she wanted me to be satisfied. I was sure that if I finished now, a second, third and perhaps fourth would be on offer, but I prefer not to do multiple pops, which I had not quite conveyed to her earlier.
Anyway, she twirls and twists being careful to keep little Kumbu inside her the whole time, and before I knew it, she had found a way for her to be on her stomach with me ontop of her entering her directly from the back. She was lying flat, not doggie style, and so it was like fucking a perfect, natural ass, right into the beautiful cheeks.
Really? Does Kumbu stand any chance? I really wanted to give anal a try, but after three seconds of this I knew the writing was on the wall. I braced myself for the most intense orgasm I could muster, and when it came it did not disappoint. Long, convulsing, and deeply satisfying, hands squeezing those luscious ass cheeks as I the energy departed and the fog of fatigue descended. I lay on top of her for a moment or two, expecting her to want to pull out and run off. But she lay there with me inside of her for another 5 minutes as we teased each other about how we each orgasmed.
Next report: Round Two
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Arse You Kidding Me?
part iv. this is the final part of this mega report. in it, we get down and dirty in the sewage canal.
we cleaned up, showered, and into bed to watch some tv. we chatted as she flicked through channel after channel for 30 minutes or so, and then she said she wanted round #2. i tried to explain that kumbu is a strictly one-pop wonder, but she would have none of it. she listened patiently to me explain my propensity for long, single pops, and once i was finished she asked me, “are you finished?” i paused, hesitant, and nodded, and she said “bullshit.”
she then went on to explain how she wanted me to do to her what i did to her the last time we saw each other. she wanted to come, then she wanted me to come one more time. oh god, kumbu, what have you gotten yourself into? could there really be too much of a good thing?
i begin to protest, but then knowing exactly what to do, she turns around and shows me her ass. aww come on! that is just not fair! little kumbu twinges, and having lost all will of my own, i begin to gently kiss her neck, nuzzle her ears, suckle her ear lobes, reach around and kiss her gently on the lips, then her cheek (face), before i make that long, undulating, pleasurable trip down her back towards my dominion. as i reach her hips, i remember the kumbu™, and the imposters who had tried to claim credit for the move. sorry fellas, it's mine, and i executed it to perfection once more.
she now got onto all fours, grabbed a pillow and buried her face in the pillow, ass pointing straight up at divinity. rather than mess around with any pretense of pussy play, i plunged my tongue into her anus. ridiculous, i must say. i mean, surely this is a bad idea, no? but my tongue met moisture, and rather than being repulsed, i got a perverted kind of thrill out of it. this is not supposed to happen. if ever there was a forbidden fruit, this is it, and for good reason. but what does reason have to do with anything? as my tongue probed deeper and deeper into her warmth, i wondered what it would taste like. her shit i mean. weird, but i had the time and wits to ponder this question. i wondered if it would be sweet in any way, like her skin. or whether it would be more espresso like in its pungency. horrible, horrible thoughts to be having, but there you have it – these truly are the depths of my depravity. some of you may be disgusted by this, some of you may be envious, i don't know. i'm not particularly proud of it, nor embarrassed by it, that's just what happened.
i quickly regained my senses and pulled my tongue out of her asshole and went back to some simple but pleasurable rimming. i didn't stop to taste my tongue at all, so i can't report on whether it was espresso-like or not. she didn't object to the tongue entry, nor did she react positively either, but when the rimming began, she was totally gasping and shivering with pleasure. awesome. i'll be honest guys, i've never been with a woman who enjoys anal stimulation the way this one does. i used to honestly wonder if there was such a thing – a woman who truly enjoys anal play. the great female anal myth. having been with hundreds of women (not a brag), not a single one of them enjoying anal play, let alone actively seeking it out, i had lost hope of its existence. but behold: it does exist! awesome. who knows which other myths might also be true. maybe i'll take up my friend on his offer to go on a great sasquatch hunt.
back to the rimming. i tried various techniques (circular, lateral, switching, different pressures, flitting, etc.) and based upon her response found the one that worked best for her. i worked her ass for perhaps 3-4 minutes, and then i moved downwards to her gaping pussy. she had worked herself up into such a state with the assplay that when i plunged my mouth down to engulf her clitoris for the first time, she literally groaned out a long, sustained, loud 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.'
her ass bucked once, then her pussy was shoved heavily towards my mouth. she reached backwards and put her hand on the back of my head and pulled my head forcefully into her pussy. resistance, as the borg say, was futile, so i applied heavy, quick, rhythmic tongue pressure on her pussy. she came within 30 seconds, and she squealed about siaow leew. she pulled away from me, unable to take any physical contact for 60 seconds or so.
i lay back, sweating, dick pointing straight up at the stars that were circling in my vision, breathing heavily, gasping for oxygen and moral redemption. she giggled, then she cuddled, and a few moments later she was off to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and shower. what is wrong with me? tongue-in-the-ass, tsk, tsk, tsk, kumbu you really are one sick fuck. umm, maybe she'll let me do that again...?
she came back and we chatted a few minutes, and then she told me it was my turn. out comes the trojan, she licks her hand and this time she applies it to her ass. please be advised, flight niner-niner-four, you are cleared for take off.
she gets on all fours in front of me, lubes her ass up some more with her spit, and says “come”. i get onto my knees, she grabs my dick and guides it homeward. as she does so she whispers “slowly, ok?” i agree, and the pressing of little kumbu against ass-flesh begins. it is tough going and i am making no headway, so i pull away, and slowly insert my index finger into her ass. she sighs. i turn the finger around a little, trying to create a little wiggle room. she slowly relaxes, and i then insert my middle finger too. she murmurs something while i continue to open her up. i then catch a peek of her insides, pink and bright like the inside of a grapefruit. i know it is time.
with my other hand, i lick and moisten little kumbu again, and with my fingers still in her ass i try to slide the little guy into the chamber. i replace my fingers for little kumbu, and she's now locked and loaded. i push my way in slowly, half way down the shaft. i pause, and then progress slowly deeper. and then a little more, until i finally make my way all the way down into her depths. she takes it all, not so much as a whimper. her head is buried in the pillow, so i don't have a sense of whether she is enjoying it or not, but my dick is busting and my heart is pounding 1000 beats per minute. little kumbu is sitting right in the middle of this girl, deep within her bowels, sitting in warmth and uncharted territory. the girl is totally impaled at this point, and i wonder how this could possibly be a good thing. but it feels so fucking fantastic, how could it possible be a bad thing?? i feel my pulse bursting at my temples, my knees are weak, my breathe is short. i wonder, after years of practice and pain, have i finally found nirvana? is this what buddha meant by enlightenment? perhaps the rapture is upon us? am i surrounded by angels and djin? is this disney land for mongers? elvis, is that you??
given my mental state at this point, there was no way this was going to last very long. despite this being my second pop, which usually lasts much, much longer, i knew this would be over within a few moments. she began to slowly rock back and forth, and i pulled in and out very slowly, and it was all going well until i decided to look down. damn it kumbu, why must you always look? the sight of little kumbu busting open that ass was all it took. i felt a wave of emotion wash through me and i smiled down at little kumbu. the little guy has worked so hard for me over the years, been a tireless, loyal servant through the good times and the bad. bless his little heart, he deserved this, and so in a moment of affection and charity, i decided to let him have his moment. as expected, in a flash, my body was pulsing with pleasure and pain at the same time. my vision went blurry, and for a moment i saw monet's bridge over the lily pond, tranquil, colorful, diffuse. i smiled, as the fluid left me, and i gently collapsed upon my sweet, beautiful girl.
we lay there 30 seconds while little kumbu deflated, and then the gentle but painful extraction began. damn, she was tight as hell, and that combined with kumbu's sensitivity made for a painful extraction. she showered while i rested, then i showered, and then into bed for cuddling.
she stayed until 3am when she asked for permission to leave. i paid her 2000b-600b+500b. the 2000b was the regular price, minus the 600b for drinks at cavern, plus 500b for the extra anal effort, and then i kicked in an extra 100b to round it off. she was perfectly happy with all of that, as was i.
[b] final reflections [/b]
where else in the world can you get a gfe, pse multiple-pop anal experience for 2750b, just over $80 total? i slightly regretted that i had gone with the same girl twice in a row, since part of the purpose of coming to pattaya is to enjoy variety. but shit, with this kind of service, i am a lock for a repeat visit, perhaps several more. if that happens, i am unlikely to report on it here, as it would be repetitive. but let's just say that when one finds something as special as this, one must do all that is possible to enjoy it while it lasts. i just wonder when she will drop the hammer and try to make this into a sponsored deal or a long-term relationship. needless to say, kumbu knows better, and he cannot be caged like that.
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The cutest doll in Pattaya
One of my milk girls called me and said she had a friend who was in need of money and would like to hook up. I initially said no because in Pattaya I insist on girls with milk but my milk girl assured me this girl would aim to please. When I met up with them the girl turned out to be a absolute doll baby. She was so damn cute. If the girl wasnt a SW I would take her in. I kid you not. After the deed was done I took her and got her hair and nails done and hung out with her all night and the next day. I know better than to fall in love with a Beach Road girl. But guys I tell you its possible to fall in love with this girl.
Showdown
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Kumbu. You must be my long lost twin brother! My experiences in Thailand seem to be very similar.
Thanks for the great reads, it's posts of these caliber that keep me coming back to these forums.
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Kumbu, what can i say, you take my breathe away.
Buddy, i'm being serious when i say you should honestly write a sex/ romance novel my friend.
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An honary doctorate for kimbu
I thing we can award Kimbu an "Honary Degree of Monger Writing" . You must have been trained at a highly reguarded school of creative writing for mongers.
Very good reading and excellent word selection.
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Kumbu,
You are without a doubt a creative talented writer that could make a living writing about any subject.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Showdown]I know better than to fall in love with a Beach Road girl. But guys I tell you its possible to fall in love with this girl.
Showdown[/QUOTE]You don't have to tell me. I fell in love last night and I'm about to do it again today. It always happens to me when I come to Pattaya!
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[QUOTE=Goyave] Some time ago, I spoke about a place "in the woods" of South Pattaya (not far away from Arthachinda Road) where one can get a blow job or even FS at a very cheap price (100 or 200 baht for a BBBJTC, 200 or 300 baht for FS, depending on the provider). Of course, the great majority of the girls working in this area are far from being attractive.[/QUOTE] I stopped by this place today about 1pm. There were two girls lying down on a mat in the grass. One waved me over. I continued up the street to see if there was anyone else around. There was not so I turned my motorbike around to go back to talk to them. She asked if I wanted smoke or boom boom and if I wanted two girls. She said smoke 300, boom boom 400 and she had a room (she pointed to a shack in the distance.) I didn't try to bargain or anything. As Goyave said, she was far from being attractive but I just wanted to get the scoop. I told her that I was going to Tukcom and would come back later.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]You don't have to tell me. I fell in love last night and I'm about to do it again today. It always happens to me when I come to Pattaya![/QUOTE]
Don't fall in love...it sticks to your face.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]... She asked if I wanted smoke or boom boom and if I wanted two girls. She said smoke 300, boom boom 400 and she had a room (she pointed to a shack in the distance.) ...[/QUOTE]
I guess that she charges 100 baht more than the rates that I am usually quoted there (200 baht for a BBBJ, 300 baht for FS) for the room. The best time to check these "infamous bushes" is probably later in the afternoon (4 or 5 pm, for instance), but it's nice to see that you've been adventurous enough to visit this area! :D
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[QUOTE=Showdown] I know better than to fall in love with a Beach Road girl. But guys I tell you its possible to fall in love with this girl.
Showdown[/QUOTE]
ha ha--I always love it when the brain in your little head downunder swells up bigger than the brain above.
cheers
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[QUOTE=Kumbu][B]Smarmy English bastard[/B]
So off I go at around 9:35pm. Rather than head back down to WS, I went the other way, deeper into the soi, turned right, to Second Street, and then right again. This leads to a soi that can take you back down to WS. As I was walking down second street, a taxi pulls up and this white guy fiddles his way out and hops onto the sidewalk. I don't look at him, but through my peripheral vision, I notice that he is pale, sweaty, and very shifty-eyed. I already don't like the guy - He seems very...smarmy. Anyway, he sees me and in an English accent says to me:
Sweaty, Smarmy, Shifty-Eyed English Bloke: “Do you speak English?
Kumbu: mm-hmm
SSSEB: Do you know your way around here by any chance? I haven't a clue where I am.
K: mm-hmm
SSSEB: Do you know where Tower Hotel is?
K: Tower...umm....nope, sorry.
SSSEB: Are you English?
K: No, American
SSSEB: aw. Well anyway, it doesn't sound good, but I've just been with a Thai prostitute...
K: as have we all.
SSSEB: umm...yeah...anyway, she...blimey, you look like Thai people...
K: I'm not Thai people
SSSEB: That's not meant in a bad way. Anyway, she grabbed me wallet and took off while I was in the shower, and she stole 1000 quid, and I now don' t have a cent on me -
K: You need to go to the police, and don't you mean penny?
SSSEB: Umm, well I did, but the bastards told me all I can do is go to my consulate.
K: Yeah, that's right, and did you?
SSSEB: Well, no, but you see, the thing is I have to phone home coz me mum, you see, she's sick and I have to talk to her, otherwise she gets very upset. So all I really need is 10 quid...
K: (slaps SSSEB on his sweaty shoulder) Good luck my friend, I've never heard of Tower hotel, I hope you find it, take care. (walks away).
SSSEB: (sarcasm) Well thanks very much for your help, mate.
Asshole. Now that I think about it, I saw this very same guy in February, and back then he did the very same thing, and I reacted in exactly the same way. So this is his shtick. Beware of Sweaty, Smarmy, Shifty-Eyed English Bloke.[/QUOTE]You absolutely captured this guy to a t. He came up to me in March, EXACT same story. I told him it was a hard luck story and I wished him the best, but I was out of money too, because I had voluntarily handed it all over to bar girls. He got the hint and moved on to the next guy to panhandle. Funny thing is I was eating a couple days before and struck up a conversation with a brit who told me about being approached by the guy. Hell, maybe the guy was an english teacher and found this to be more profitable! It's so out of place and somewhat shocking to be approached by a farang panhandler, that I imagine enough of the easily manipulated take pity on him to throw enough his way to scratch out his meager existence.
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Squirter
I was just curious if anyone has ever run into a genuine squirter in Pattaya.....one that will actually have a G-spot orgasm and actually squirt when she cums.
Thanks,
Johnnie
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They Are Hookers
Guys I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but please don't fall in love with these hookers. I had a regular over last night. She was lying across the bed fully clothed and I was at the desk on my computer. She called a guy and was having a conversation in English. I immediately got up, pulled her shorts and panties to the side, and stuck my dick in her pussy (she stays wet 24/7..that is why she has become a regular). She started moaning while she was talking to the guy. And I could hear him through the phone. He sounded African. He asked what she was doing. She told him that she was just home alone watching TV. He said it sounds like someone is fucking you. But she denied it. She finally told him that she was running out of time on her cell and that he should call her back later. Phom rak khun is what they told each other before she hung up.
I got up and went back to the desk. He called right back and the scenario repeated itself. This time when she hung up I gave her the fucking of a lifetime. With all of the lights on, the curtains fully opened, and two chairs set up in front of the window, I fucked her where all of Pattaya could see and like fucking would never come in style again. This was about 9pm last night. I didn't wake up again until 5am when I had to go to the bathroom. Then about 6:30 I penetrated her while she was in a dead sleep.
Yesterday when we were at her room I noticed her roommate's keychain was the dog tag of a US Marine. I read it quickly without paying too much attention. My girl told me that it was her friend's boyfriend. I don't know about these days but 20 years ago when I was in the Navy our social security number was on our tags. If it is still the same today then that was an extremely dumb move on his part.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]... Phom rak khun is what they told each other before she hung up...[/QUOTE]
Maybe HE said this sentence, but a Thai girl (as a female speaker) would not use "phom" (ผม) to say "I", but "chan" (ฉัน) or "dichan" (ดิฉัน), for instance.
By the way, I also like to fuck (and anally, when it's possible!) a Thai P4P girl while she is speaking on the phone with one of her sponsors. Priceless!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Guys i know I'm beating a dead horse here, but please don't fall in love with these hookers. I had a regular over last night. She was lying across the bed fully clothed and I was at the desk on my computer. She called a guy and was having a conversation in English. I immediately got up, pulled her shorts and panties to the side, and stuck my dick in her pussy (she stays wet 24/7..that is why she has become a regular). She started moaning while she was talking to the guy. And I could hear him through the phone. [/QUOTE]
Agree!!!!!
I also do this when the phone rings. Put them in their place because they are hookers! Remember it's us against them. We'll win every time as long as "love" doesn't enter the equation.
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cheap tricks
Hey Guys, we all know that with an outlay of 3000 baht or so you can have a wonderful time in this fair city. 600 baht barfine from a go-go, drinks + 2K for the girl LT.
But what's the most fun you can squeeze out Pattaya for say 500 baht?
I know I'll be cited as a "cheap Charlie" but I can't understand people who pay top dollar for a not necessarily better experience.
I'lll give you an example.
Last night I went up to Soi 6. I picked a pretty girl from outside one of the bars on the right as you walk up from Beach Road. I bought her an expensive ladies drink (a bacardi breezer) and I had a tonic water. I kissed and cuddled her for an hour, took her top off, had my hands inside her pants, plus I received a hand job (in the bar) and she occassionally nibbled the end of my penis.
Outlay: Her drink 140 baht. Mine 60 baht. 100 baht tip (trickled out in denominations of 20 baht every time she pulled a trick). 20 baht tip for the bar (because they were gracious enought not to throw me out).
Total outlay: 320 baht.
Guys?
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Maybe HE said this sentence, but a Thai girl (as a female speaker) would not use "phom" (ผม) to say "I", but "chan" (ฉัน) or "dichan" (ดิฉัน), for instance.[/QUOTE]I know the difference but they both used phom.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I know the difference but they both used phom.[/QUOTE]Very surprising! Males and females may both use "ฉัน" ("chan") to say "I", but as far as I know,"ดิฉัน" ("dichan") is exclusively used by female speakers and "ผม" ("phom") exclusively by male speakers in this context. "ผม" ("phom") has another meaning: "hair", but I've never heard so far a Thai woman using "ผม" to say "I" (it would worry me!). Or maybe her Thai nickname sounds like something almost similar (for our Farang ears) to this word?
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[quote=johnniebravo]i was just curious if anyone has ever run into a genuine squirter in pattaya...[/quote]not (yet) in pattaya, but in bangkok, yes. i met this gem a few years ago at the bier garten on sukhumvit soi 7. on our first intercourse, it was apparently the first time that it happened to her, and she was a bit ashamed and explained to me that she didn't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. i told her then that i already knew that it was not [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], and that she should not be ashamed and i added that i was proud that she really enjoyed our session. even if she was not a stunner (but a solid 7/10 in my book), she has been one of my favorite girls in bangkok for years (she's a 3-holer too).
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[QUOTE=Waste Mgmt] It's so out of place and somewhat shocking to be approached by a farang panhandler[/QUOTE]Not in Pattaya! God only knows how many of these jokers are making the rounds these days, but the last time I got approached by one I just laughed and said, you pulled this same routine on me months ago, you need a new one. He kind of slunk away.
Guys get addicted to pussy and not working -- I mean, who wouldn't? -- and they'll try any scam it takes to stick around.
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Fallen in love?
These girls are good, I'm sure some guys marry some, but they are working girls and are looking to earn bucks any way they can.
Really knobs me off when some sucker calls up and I'm about to bang one. The other night it happened, sounded like a french guy, he was wiring some money out for his honey and wanted phone sex, our end my girl did a great proformance while be done in the ass!
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Very surprising! Males and females may both use "ฉัน" ("chan") to say "I", but as far as I know,"ดิฉัน" ("dichan") is exclusively used by female speakers and "ผม" ("phom") exclusively by male speakers in this context. "ผม" ("phom") has another meaning: "hair", but I've never heard so far a Thai woman using "ผม" to say "I" (it would worry me!). Or maybe her Thai nickname sounds like something almost similar (for our Farang ears) to this word?[/QUOTE]I figure she was just making it easier for him. Thai nickname don't know. But English nickname is Nicky.
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devil's den, [CodeWord134] in mouth
i was just looking at the devil's den website. under the profiles of the girls they list what the girls will do (anal, cim, etc). 11 out of the 21 girls "receives: [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth". holy crap! i must admit that i never even considered this to be an option anywhere. sounds very unhealthy. is this for real? is this a normal thing in thailand? i am shocked, and somewhat intrigued.
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[quote=edward m]i was just looking at the devil's den website. under the profiles of the girls they list what the girls will do (anal, cim, etc). 11 out of the 21 girls "receives: [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth". holy crap! i must admit that i never even considered this to be an option anywhere. sounds very unhealthy. is this for real? is this a normal thing in thailand? i am shocked, and somewhat intrigued.[/quote]devil's den (like its counterpart in bangkok. eden club) is something for the. connoisseur. its quite different from most other places in it being exclusively focused on sex. the process is simple. pick the girl, let her pick her partner (or you can), go next door to a mirror walled & ceiling-ed room (with swings, sex toys, uniforms, etc etc) and start doing it. thats also why i have found both places a little uncomfortable for my own tastes. i prefer a more relaxed 'chase' and punt process.
about receiving [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. i don't think thats too common elsewhere.
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re:[CodeWord134]
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] is sterile.
dicks are not.
[quote=edward m]i was just looking at the devil's den website. under the profiles of the girls they list what the girls will do (anal, cim, etc). 11 out of the 21 girls "receives: [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth". holy crap! i must admit that i never even considered this to be an option anywhere. sounds very unhealthy. is this for real? is this a normal thing in thailand? i am shocked, and somewhat intrigued.[/quote]
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[quote=edward m]i was just looking at the devil's den website. under the profiles of the girls they list what the girls will do (anal, cim, etc). 11 out of the 21 girls "receives: [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth". holy crap! i must admit that i never even considered this to be an option anywhere. sounds very unhealthy. is this for real? is this a normal thing in thailand? i am shocked, and somewhat intrigued.[/quote]
i use the devils den whenever i find myself in pattaya. while i have never done the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in mouth thing i know that devils den keep their promises. so if a girls profile says [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in mouth then she will do it when she is with the client.
why anyone would find it of interest is another matter entirely.
junior
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Free Pussy
Funny thing happened on the way to the office this morning....
Well actually I had come in from Walking Street and was in the hotel about to go to sleep around 6am when I called (1 baht/min with TrueMove chip) a young lady who I am dealing with back home. I rode to the internet cafe to send her an email that she requested. When I came in I spotted a rather cute chunky girl on another computer. We smiled back and forth a couple of times. It just so happened that we finished up at the same time. She went out to her motorbike while I was paying my bill and I motioned for her to wait for me.
I went outside and we started talking. She said that she rents motorbikes around the corner. She had just come back from Mixx with a friend of hers. She asked me what my religion was because my beard is so long. I told her that I didn't have one but when I DATY I like to have some juices left over for later. She started laughing and we exchanged information. She forgot to include her email but when I arrived at the hotel she SMSed it to me.
I was in the bed just thinking that I needed to go to Beach Road or Goyave's secret spot to find something to put me to sleep. I decided to send her an SMS back to say that I would like to get to know her better. She said she was shy but somehow I ended up going to her apartment straight away. Of course I brought along a few working tools in my gym sack. There was no time wasted. She was a monster in the sack. She must have had the tightest pussy of a big girl that I have ever felt. I could barely get 1 finger in although it was dripping wet. It was like she had not had dick since the turn of the century.
We ended up in doggy style for the second time then out of nowhere she said, "You want my ass?" Don't mind if I do! She said to be careful because she had never done it before. She got up and applied some oil to make it go easier. I ended up fucking the shit out of her ass (not literally). We went to take showers then got back into the bed. She gave me a head and shoulders massage and told me that I would have to leave soon because her friend would be coming back (her friend had found a guy in Mixx to go with). Well fuck that shit. It was past 7am and I had been up over 24 hours. I was ready to pass out. So she fixed me a place on the bed and we drifted off to sleep.
I woke up about 45 minutes ago with her hot mouth on my dick. One more session for the road! When we finished up she told me to go take a shower then go back to my hotel to go to sleep because her friend was sure to arrive. No argument from me. I took my clothes from the hanger where she had neatly placed them, got dressed, and headed for the door. She told me how to get out of the security gate at the bottom. We hugged and she said that we would talk online and she hoped to see me next time I am in Pattaya.
I am back at the same internet cafe and there is a girl sitting in her same seat and we are smiling back and forth. Will the scenario repeat itself? I doubt it for I have to get back to the hotel. There is a chick who works at the front desk and I kind of made her my girlfriend last time I was here. She gets off at 4pm and I will have to give her her time.
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Love, and the couples at Starbuck's
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Guys I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but please don't fall in love with these hookers. [/QUOTE]I could not agree more. Not only is it likely that sick fucks like Mr.E are tongue fucking your girl while you think you are bonding with her on the phone, it is likely to drain you far faster (both financially and emotionally) than if you just got there for the fucking.
Some guys are actually into finding some emotional bonding, and to them, good luck. I am of the opinion that this is not the right place for that. The girls are jaded, they have seen it all, and they really are here only for the money. They put on a superb act, and it is easy to fall for one of these darlings, but if you just stay focused on your task at hand, all will be good.
With that in mind, here are some relevant observations from Starbuck's at Central from Sat afternoon.
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Sitting at Starbuck's watching this old geezer with his bargirl. He's got his Americano and she has her Frapuccino, and he's looking at her as if he has found love. She's looking at him like he's a dufus. He's totally fawning over her – joking, reaching over and touching her arm, touching the side of her face, stroking her hair, looking her in the eyes like a puppy dog. And she's reciprocating just enough to encourage him. He's maybe in his mid-50s, she's probably 26 years old or so. She's attractive, great skin, long sexy legs, and he's well, let's say he could pass as a look-alike for my chiropractor Ira Berstein.
He reaches over and starts to fondle her breasts, and she slaps him, hard, harder than she needed to. Ira chuckles and pulls his hand away. Ah yes, 26 year-old petulance versus 50-year old chiropractor cash. The cash wins out every time. But Ira looks like he is falling for this pretty little thing. Don't do it Ira – heed the warnings of Mr.E. and Amjeck. She's got a stable of studs like you lined up. She will drain your chiropractor reserves and move on to someone with more cash, like a real doctor.
They get up and walk away, and in their place arrive a new couple for Kumbu's ponderings. He is a younger, taller white guy with his Isaan bride-to-be in tow. He's tall, perhaps 6'2”, skinny, with a large nose. He looks a little like a younger version of Principle Skinner from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Reminds me of Steve Wieznewski, my mathematics TA in college. His princess is skinny, dark skinned, dyed brown hair, something like 22 years old. She's wearing a brand new pair of jeans, perhaps bought with Steve's money recently. That, plus her dye job and dark skin cry out farm girl. Steve looks to be in his mid-to-late twenties, dressed in a white golf shirt and shorts. She's clearly delighted to have snagged a tall white dude, and he seems very, very awkward. Poor, poor Steve, he doesn't know what to do or what is in store for him.
Run Steve, run back to the quadratic equations that have been your reliable love for all these years – cryptic they may be, but at least they wont fuck with your mind or your wallet.
And finally, on the other side of the room, sits a brother – tall, dark, muscular, a good looking specimen indeed. He dons a thick gold chain, biceps to put the ordinary mortal such as Kumbu to shame, and a certain charm about him. His girl is dark skinned, long haired, with a cute, pert face. These two seem to have a reasonable relationship – he doesn't seem overly enamored with her, and she doesn't seem to have him pegged as marriage material. Good for the brother. As they get up, she stands up to reveal the most ginormous booty a Thai woman has ever cultivated. Ever. Huge. Massive. Not to Kumbu's liking - he likes them round and bubbly, but not Madea Does Thailand big. But good for the brother. He knows his thing, and that's all he wants.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]...Sitting at Starbuck's watching this old geezer with his bargirl...He's maybe in his mid-50s,...[/QUOTE]
You fucker, Kumbu ... I'll bet he's having more fun than you in the LOS. :)
I didn't even begin to monger until well after his age ... too many girlfriends ... too many wives... too much of the USA.
Count yourself lucky if you can live that long and more while dicking girls young enough to be your granddaughter... that's when the real fun begins.
BTW -- most of the girls here LOVE old geezers.
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[quote=edward m]i was just looking at the devil's den website. under the profiles of the girls they list what the girls will do (anal, cim, etc). 11 out of the 21 girls "receives: [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth". holy crap! i must admit that i never even considered this to be an option anywhere. sounds very unhealthy. is this for real? is this a normal thing in thailand? i am shocked, and somewhat intrigued.[/quote]any kind of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] is not something that has ever been of interest to me, but whilst sounding highly unpleasant it probably isn't actually unhealthy, as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] is pretty much sterile.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]You fucker, Kumbu ... I'll bet he's having more fun than you in the LOS. :)
I didn't even begin to monger until well after his age ... too many girlfriends ... too many wives... too much of the USA.[/QUOTE]Sorry Daddy, the 'old geezer' crack was not intended as an insult. What I really meant was that the guy looked to be in his mid-50s, but he seemed more haggard and eccentric than most. I don't consider mid-50s to be old by any stretch of the imagination – I will be there shortly myself, and I have seen dudes in Pattaya (literally) wheeling around oxygen tanks with two pretties in tow. That just means there is no such thing as old when it comes to a man getting his dick up. So no offense intended.
In any case, I agree with you 100% - in Thailand, the Silverback rules.
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[QUOTE=Doppel One]I kissed and cuddled her for an hour, took her top off, had my hands inside her pants, plus I received a hand job (in the bar) and she occassionally nibbled the end of my penis.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely. Anything less is just making time. I remember last time in Angeles, two half-breeds (half black and half Korean) (the more races the more fun, OK?) were all over me for their drinks, I had to slink out tired as they only got hotter ... got a bad throat infection from all the swapping of fluids from that one ... and another time in a Perimeter bar an innocent-looking young girl played with my erection for ages, never touched her drink ... in Pattaya this happens less, but around soi 13 there are some similarly filthy places, besides of course soi 6.
But Doppel I'd be quite surprised if she let you cum downstairs.
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Changes on the Horizon
So I talked to my girl from Baccara and she tells me a lot of change in happening.
1. Peppermint is moving. The location is under construction right now, and you can see the non-illuminated sign from WS. It is located (walking towards Jom Tien) on the right hand side, on the ground floor, just past the escalator to the current location. Estimated open date is within the next two weeks.
2. The owners of Baccara are starting up two new bars within the next two months. These will be closer to Beach Rd, but the same kind of MO as Baccara. According to her, the five bars under their control are: Baccara, Cavern, Peppermint, Happy and Beach Club. Then you add these two new ones, and it looks like they are taking over the town.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]But Doppel I'd be quite surprised if she let you cum downstairs.[/QUOTE]For clarification, she didn't allow me to cum downstairs in the soi 6 bar, for that (on that occassion) I would have had to pay 300 baht for the room (plus pay her extra no doubt).
Last night I was back up soi 6 and a girl offered me a fuck, anal and BBBJ for 400 baht!! (+ 300 for the room). Not such a bad deal, thought I, and I had a great time.
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[QUOTE=Doppel One]For clarification, she didn't allow me to cum downstairs in the soi 6 bar[/QUOTE]
Phew, I thought I might be missing out ;-)
Cumming downstairs is welcome at Lick Bar (soi 6), 700 BJ on the couch, more worth it for the squalor than the economics.
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Sucker for a Pretty Lady
Pattaya is full of gogo girls, and they tend to blend together. But over the last few days and weeks, I have figured out where the right ones are. When I think about it, I am a pretty discriminating fucker. The idea that from amongst 5,000 available women in this town, I can find perhaps 4 that are up to my standards is a little off-putting, but I suppose that comes from all the choice. I think if I were in a place where there were exactly 2 available women, at least 1 would be up to my standards.
Having figured out where the lookers are (and this is entirely idiosyncratic – people often post questions like 'where do the good looking chicks hang out?' - a meaningless question if ever there was one), I now have my gogo bars broken down into categories. Baccara's a great lounging place, Anglewitch is the show place, Beach club is the draft beer spot, windmill/babygirls are the neoprene spanking banana fucking ping-pong ball spewing ice into any-crack spot, and Happy is my safe drinking spot. That is, Happy Agogo is one place that has always been the place where I could go and sip, watch, sip some more, watch some more, and never have any fear of a waiter, hostess or dancer bothering me. Last week some hostesses started to bother me, but that soon ended, and it was back to my Safe Place. But I totally fucked that up on Friday night. In more than one way. I think the fatigue is seriously impairing my good judgment.
Earlier this week I made a connection with one of the prettier girls there who I had grown accustomed to watching from afar. It was that damned linen shirt that did it, I am sure of it. Anyway she now notices me every time I come in, which is a drag. So Friday night I walk in and before my drink arrives, she's sitting next to me chatting.
Damn she has a fine face – very, very cute. She has large, lustrous, seductive, sultry eyes (sultry is the perfect word for them), high, prominent cheek bones, pert little nose, light brown hair that falls down her face gracefully. Her teeth are smaller than they should be, and that's actually why she does not smile very much – when she does smile, she looks awkward. But when she is expressionless, she has a stunning model-like face. Her body is not quite top caliber for me, but would be for most other people. That is, she is thinner than I like. She does have excellent legs, but a butt that is smaller than I prefer. Her limbs are perfectly proportioned, and her skin is immaculate - light milky white, smooth and flawless. She is a very, very pretty thing to be sure. Her face is really the clincher though.
Anyway, we talk for 20 minutes, and truth be told, it is hard going. She is not the most natural talker, and there are long awkward silences. But eventually, I stupidly decide to go for it. What I *should* have done is pay for her drink, pat her on the hand and walk out. That way she would have forgotten me and Happy would go back to being a safe-drink gogo.
Instead, I Bfed her (stupid stupid stupid). We end up in the hotel talking for 20 minutes. The hotel banter was much better and easier than the club banter, so that's good. She offers to shower together, which I politely decline, so she showers and then me. Afterwards, we lie naked on the bed talking and touching for another 20 minutes, and then she asks if I want to be sucked. Umm...what the hell, knock yourself out.
She starts to suck, and it turns out the girl knows what she is doing! Flashes of Samuel L. Jackson: Check out the lips on girlie! It's been so long since I got a good BJ in Thailand I had forgotten how important technique is. She starts at the base and then works half way up the shaft before going back down to the balls, then back up to the middle of the shaft, lingering for a moment (which way will she go, up or down??), and then she goes up, to the head, and flicks lightly with the tongue all around the head of the penis. She uses loads of spit, gobs and gobs of it, it was the sloppiest BBBJ I've had in a long time. It's good when someone takes pride in their craft. Good as she was, I was still rather uninspired. It's not you baby, it's me, really.
She worked it for a while, and then asked if I want boom boom. Ok, I guess. Trojan goes on, and she has her own lube. Fine, whatever. She mounts me and starts to ride me, and I have to tell you fellas, it was downright painful. Not sure what it was, maybe the angle of insertion or the way she bent it backwards, but I was gritting my teeth as she rode me. I held it as best I could for six or seven repetitions, and then I gently moved her onto her back. We went for perhaps 10 minutes (missionary is my strong point), and I *think* she came, although I could be mistaken. But anyway, we did a couple of more positions, and we ended in (what else?) doggie. I blew my load, she giggled, then she showered, and then me. When I got out, she was already dressed. I paid her 1500B (standard ST), and she seemed ok with that (not happy, but ok).
So now I can't go back to Happy for a safe drink, as I am sure to be hassled by the girl or someone else. I could blow them off, but then I will have to deal with the offended looks for the rest of my life. What a hassle. And for what? The sex wasn't great. The girl was very pretty, and she obliged in every way, but it was all very, very mechanical and practiced. That's what happens when you pick the beautiful model types.
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[CodeWord117]
[quote=mouse1].... as [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] is pretty much sterile.[/quote]
i am not so sure it is sterile...
as a body fluid it might carry whatever one has on board (be it just a flu)
on the other end it is the result of "unusable remains from body feeding"
maybe a med.dr., can put some light on this if we do not digress too much.
but as it seems a sexual practice (in its way) it should not be too much ot.
on the other hand being practiced (not extensively) it does not seem to be sop unsafe, but..who knows?
if lot of body fluids are dangerous for certain deseases, i reckon this one can be too...
just my 2 cents..
ps: have done a quick check:
[[[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] is sterile until it reaches the urethra where the epithelial cells lining the urethra are colonized by facultatively aerobic gram negative rods and cocci.[1] subsequent to elimination from the body, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] can acquire strong odors due to bacterial action. most noticeably, the asphyxiating ammonia is produced by breakdown of urea. some diseases alter the quantity and consistency of the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], such as sugar as a consequence of diabetes.]]
there is also a reference of it being sterile in a "healthy body", so it is all relevant...
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[quote=kumbu]so now i can't go back to happy for a safe drink, as i am sure to be hassled by the girl or someone else. i could blow them off, but then i will have to deal with the offended looks for the rest of my life. what a hassle. and for what? the sex wasn't great. the girl was very pretty, and she obliged in every way, but it was all very, very mechanical and practiced. that's what happens when you pick the beautiful model types.[/quote]hey kumbu, i've enjoyed your reports over the past weeks and oh, boy, i can totally relate to this latest episode. i never, ever bf from a go-go bar, but i like to lounge in them, surveying what's on offer, undisturbed, before moving onto other pastures for my pro-active physical entertainment. one place i really enjoyed gazing into space is the champagne a-go-go on soi lk metro. i used to love it in there becaus the girls were fun to watch and sometimes on a saturday night if you sat on the right perch you could watch girls dancing, girls pissing in the shower and premier league football on tv simultaneously. so i was happy. and then, one night, i must have been at a low ebb, i invited one of the coyote dancers over and bought her a drink. that in itself was okay, but as i was leaving i slipped her 100 baht tip. big mistake! of course, the next time i walk through the door, as soon as she's finished her set she's right by my side and instead of languidly sitting back watches the action, now i'm like hubby, holding hands with this girl (who i have no intention of bfing) buying her drinks and tipping her 100 baht for the privilage. end result, i've given up on the place and don't go there anymore, and what i used to think of my local in pattaya is no more. bugger! so, yeh, let this be a warning to us all.
incidentally, i was sauntering down soi 8 the other night when i saw a girl i fancied. my plan was to buy her a swift ladies drink, feel her out to see if she'd had a child, and if her stomach matched my requirements, i was going to bf her and take her back to the ranch for a round of st. i very rarely buy ladies drinks but on this occassion i thought it was the quickest end to my means. so she wandered off to the baar and seconds latere returns brandishing a bacardi breezer for her and a tonic water for me. i peeked at the bin. my tonic 50 baht. her bacardi breezer 180 baht! fuck me. i was staggered. i asked how much ladies drinks are normally and she said, 110 baht, 140 baht and 180 baht. and of course she'd elected to have the most expensive without consulting me. unfortunately it soured the mood for me. i just paid my bin and left, but i did linger long enough to explain that because of her actions the bar missed out on a 300 baht bf and the girl 1000 baht for st. of course she just stared back at me like i was another mug punter. which of course, i was. what i wonder is the most expensive (no go go bar) ladies drink in fun town?
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Birdy calling!!
Apropos of absolutely sweet FA, interesting to read that Derrick ‘taxi-driver’ Bird was a frequent visitor to Pattaya, vacationing here 3 times a year. Who knows he may even have been a member of this forum!
Maybe his reputed financial problems was what finally drove him over the edge (holidaying in Pattaya is not so cheap any more!). Or maybe during his last call to his honeyko, he may have heard the unmistakable sound of masculine grunts and heavy breathing in the background:(.
P.S Bird was the maniac who ran amok in Cumbria last week
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[QUOTE=Doppel One]For clarification, she didn't allow me to cum downstairs....[/QUOTE]
Is this a euphemism?
[QUOTE=Doppel One]Last night I was back up soi 6 and a girl offered me a fuck, anal and BBBJ for 400 baht!! (+ 300 for the room). Not such a bad deal, thought I, and I had a great time.[/QUOTE]
Christ, business must be bad at the moment in Pattaya!!
On the WS debate, as a member who got seriously flamed when I posted a WS pic a while ago, may I say that it was just another 'done' tick but didn't really do that much for me (in fact my urethra initially locked solid:D). However I can understand its appeal for those into BDSM and the sub-dom world.
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Crime and Punishment: The Hammer Falls
[B]The Crime Spree[/B]
I arrive at Bacarra at the agreed time of 8:30pm on Saturday night. The plan was to BF my anal girlie, we then go for some quick dinner, then to Cavern where she would be the center-piece of a painting show - she had arranged for the fluorescent ink guy to paint her ass in the show, all for my viewing pleasure. I BF her and off to dinner. I tell her I am not too hungry, so I let her order. Big mistake. A platter of oysters arrives, and I think "what?" and then a curried crab arrives - not your normal fare, what? Not entirely unexpected, I must say, but mildly annoying. The money is not what is bothering me - it's the audacity she shows in ordering such extravagant dishes without so much as asking. Charge #1.
Next on to Cavern. We arrive to a hero's welcome - waiters are slapping me on the back like a long lost brother, girls are touching me all over, all 3 mama sans rush out to greet me. All three!! I am ushered to a prime spot and surrounded by adulating throngs. Smells suspicious, even if it isn't technically a crime.
I order a coke, my girl orders a hot tea, and five drinks arrive. I ask what the FUCK this is, and girlie says "oh tilak, dese dinks fo mama san all tree." All 3 mama sans!! Charge #2.
I wait 30 minutes before the show begins, and before my girl leaves, some ping pong balls arrive at my side. I say "no, not for me" and girlie insists: “Tilaaaaak. When I do show for you, you throw ball – is good.”. So I buy the minimum of 100B - 5 balls. And there you have it: Charge #3.
[B]The Road to Redemption[/B]
The show starts, and girlie is SPECCCCTACULAR. I know exactly why she has such a hold on me - sumptuous curves, splendid symmetry, incredible wide, round ass, absolutely perfect proportions. And the vision of a scorpion doing battle with a dragon across her naked back, across her bulging ass cheeks and down her perfect, sexy legs was enough to sooth grumpy Kumbu. Ok, some people may indeed be above the law.
Later, we get back to the hotel and she had not showered yet, so she still had the body art on. She could not wash the paint off herself, so she employed my skilled hands to really rub those ass cheeks and legs until they were clean. I of course rubbed and scrubbed and squeezed FAR more than necessary, in the guise of being diligent about cleaning her, but what conscious, sane man wouldn't, n'est-ce pas? Hygiene first, that's what I always say, well, at least when it comes to butt-cheek cleaning. She may be on her way to redemption.
Afterwards, we cuddled for 10 minutes, then she whispered that she wanted me to eat her. Kumbu at your service, m'lady. So I did my thing, same as the previous two times - 15 minutes of Falang tongue-to-the-pussy, and it all ended well for her. Is all forgiven? We're almost there, deary.
So now she needs to recuperate, and she says she wants to be held while this is happening. Uh-oh. So we spoon (wtf?!?!). Around 3 mins later, she stops all movement, and another 3 mins later she is deep breathing. Crime #4, cuffed and jailed.
[B]The Police Investigate[/B]
Little kumbu has gone from the good little soldier ready for inspection by the commander-in-chief, to the world's softest, most flaccid dishtowel. Not good. So what do I do? I have several choices.
#1. Wake her the fuck up and get what I paid for.
#2. Wake her the fuck up and kick her ass outta here.
#3. Wait until she wakes up and get what I paid for.
#4. Wait until she wakes up and then kick her ass outta here.
At this point, I was leaning towards #1 and #3. I wanted what I paid for, and kicking her the fuck outta here wasn't going to solve diddly. So I tried to wake her up, but she was out cold. She waved her hand and moaned a little, but she was really out cold. Hmm, this is NOT good.
[B]The Trial[/B]
So I stewed. I lay back on the bed and I walked myself through the night, calculating all the money I spent on her, starting with the drink in Baccara when I picked her up, the BF, the ridiculous dinner, the various drinks at Cavern, the ping-fucking-pong balls. My outlay was substantial, and she got a good pussy licking out of it, an orgasm, and now she is napping? NAPPING??
[B]Jury Deliberation[/B]
All of a sudden, I heard the Red Hot Chili Peppers singing in my head:
“I got dosed by you and
closer than most to you and
what am I supposed to do?
Take it away?
I never had it anyway
Take it away
And everything will be ok.”
What am I supposed to do? Take it away? I never had it anyway. I realized that I was the one over-reacting. I was the one getting pissy over something that is very natural. She is a gogo girl. This is what she DOES. Her job is to extract money, and the less she needs to put out the better. Simple. It was my mistake assuming that the money you pay is proportional to the returns. No such thing in gogo land. A chump has been revealed.
[B]The Verdict[/B]
Guilty as Charged.
[B]Sentencing[/B]
Many men at this point would have shaken the bejesus out of her, to get her to either perform or exit stage left. But with my new realization in hand, I went over to my laptop and started working. It soothes me. She woke up to the sound of her alarm half an hour later and screams 'Oh, me late – must go because my daughter wait me. Today her birthday, have to go!” All this was true – she had told me that she needed to leave early tonight (her usual departure time is 3am, this time it had to be 2am). So this much I knew, but that didn't make it any better. As she got ready, I kept my cool, no blow ups, I just focused on my work and plugged away at the computer, knowing full well what the correct sentence was.
[B]The Convict pleads for Mercy[/B]
This passive aggressive behavior was not lost on girlie. She says “Tilak, you angli me?” I looked at her and shook my head. I genuinely was not angli her. I knew she was very tired, I knew she had to leave early, none of it was unexpected. I was really more disappointed. Disappointed that a good thing has now come to an end. No more outrageous anal rimming sessions, no more large-ass kissing, no more fantastic anal sessions. Back to the normal stuff, sifting the wheat from the chaff, getting mostly chaff. And, let's be honest here, I was disappointed in myself.
She continues getting ready, and when she is ready to leave, she asks again;
Girlie: Tilaaaak, me tink you angli me. Why you no smile?
Kumbu: I'm not angry, I am disappointed.
Girlie: ...Tilaaaak, no be angli, iss no good.
Kumbu: I'm not angry, I'm disappointed.
Girlie: Dis...disa...why you angli me?
Kumbu: Not angry, disappointed. Look it up in your dictionary.
Girlie: ...
I realized she was waiting to be paid. ...hhh....hhhhhhhh....hhhhHHHHHH.....bbbBBBahahahahahahaahah.
[B]The Execution[/B]
I leaned over, placed my hands beneath her ears, holding her head in my hands, and kissed her gently on the forehead. My lips lingered a moment longer than they needed to, and as I slowly pulled away, and my lips gently broke contact with her skin, I knew that would be the last time I kiss her. I pulled back and looked into her eyes. The light was shining down onto her face, she looking up at me, her soft brown eyes illuminated by the yellow light. I saw a mixture of affection, confusion, distress, even fear. I gazed into her eyes searching for meaning, for satisfaction, and in that moment, for the very first time, we truly connected. There was a buzzing silence as we shared pure emotion across the tether of eye gaze. She saw into my heart, she saw the anguish in my eyes...and she understood. Her pupils dilated ever so slightly as she registered understanding. The muscles in her neck loosened, her eyes lost some energy, her smile disappeared, her shoulders sank, and she looked down at her feet. She knew she had done wrong. To my surprise, rather than protest or argue, she slowly turned around and walked out without another word.
I felt empty.
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Another great and well-written report, Kumbu!
[QUOTE=Kumbu]... but what conscious, sane man wouldn't, n'est pas?[/QUOTE]
Just for your information, it's "n'est-ce pas" in French in this context.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Just for your information, it's "n'est-ce pas" in French in this context.[/QUOTE]Serves me right for trying to be the linguist. Just edited the original post and made the change. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu][B]The Crime Spree[/B]
so I let her order. Big mistake...... - it's the audacity she shows in ordering such extravagant dishes without so much as asking. Charge #1.
I order a coke, my girl orders a hot tea, and five drinks arrive. I ask what the FUCK this is, and girlie says "oh tilak, dese dinks fo mama san all tree." All 3 mama sans!! [/QUOTE]
How long you been mongering in Thailand? Hopefully you learned something here.
Repeat this mantra everyday and you shall be healed:
Thai girls are only good for fucking! Take em to your room , fuck em, then kick em out. Repeat cycle!
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Kumbu vs. Amjeck
There are two ways of looking at everything, two sides to a coin, different perspectives...
[QUOTE=Kumbu]She is a gogo girl. This is what she DOES. Her job is to extract money, and the less she needs to put out the better. Simple. It was my mistake assuming that the money you pay is proportional to the returns. No such thing in gogo land. A chump has been revealed.
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Amjeck]Thai girls are only good for fucking! Take em to your room , fuck em, then kick em out. Repeat cycle![/QUOTE]
But I would rather be in your head Mr Kumbu than Mr Angry Amjeck's.
Another great report.
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Suit Info
Will be in Pattaya in a month or two for an extended period. Does anyone know a good tailor where I can have a suit made?
I had a few made @ Raja's in Bangkok, and was pleased. However, I will not be in Bangkok long enouth to have it done.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu][B]The Crime Spree[/B]
I leaned over, placed my hands beneath her ears, holding her head in my hands, and kissed her gently on the forehead. My lips lingered a moment longer than they needed to, and as I slowly pulled away, and my lips gently broke contact with her skin, I knew that would be the last time I kiss her. I pulled back and looked into her eyes. The light was shining down onto her face, she looking up at me, her soft brown eyes illuminated by the yellow light. I saw a mixture of affection, confusion, distress, even fear. I gazed into her eyes searching for meaning, for satisfaction, and in that moment, for the very first time, we truly connected. There was a buzzing silence as we shared pure emotion across the tether of eye gaze. She saw into my heart, she saw the anguish in my eyes...and she understood. Her pupils dilated ever so slightly as she registered understanding. The muscles in her neck loosened, her eyes lost some energy, her smile disappeared, her shoulders sank, and she looked down at her feet. She knew she had done wrong. To my surprise, rather than protest or argue, she slowly turned around and walked out without another word.
I felt empty.[/QUOTE]This is not a report, this is a piece of art.
I read it and then read it again just for pleasure of reading.
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Touching, moving, so rare here.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]I leaned over, placed my hands beneath her ears, holding her head in my hands, and kissed her gently on the forehead. My lips lingered a moment longer than they needed to, and as I slowly pulled away, and my lips gently broke contact with her skin, I knew that would be the last time I kiss her. I pulled back and looked into her eyes. The light was shining down onto her face, she looking up at me, her soft brown eyes illuminated by the yellow light. I saw a mixture of affection, confusion, distress, even fear. I gazed into her eyes searching for meaning, for satisfaction, and in that moment, for the very first time, we truly connected. There was a buzzing silence as we shared pure emotion across the tether of eye gaze. She saw into my heart, she saw the anguish in my eyes...and she understood. Her pupils dilated ever so slightly as she registered understanding. The muscles in her neck loosened, her eyes lost some energy, her smile disappeared, her shoulders sank, and she looked down at her feet. She knew she had done wrong. To my surprise, rather than protest or argue, she slowly turned around and walked out without another word.
I felt empty.[/QUOTE]Kumbu,
Your report brought sadness, longing, understanding, and other emotions to my heart. Seldom do I see such honesty, feeling, compassion here; a very beautiful post.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu][B]The Crime Spree[/B]
I arrive at Bacarra at the agreed time of 8:30pm on Saturday night. The plan was to BF my anal girlie, we then go for some quick dinner, then to Cavern where she would be the center-piece of a painting show - she had arranged for the fluorescent ink guy to paint her ass in the show, all for my viewing pleasure. I BF her and off to dinner. I tell her I am not too hungry, so I let her order. Big mistake. A platter of oysters arrives, and I think "what?" and then a curried crab arrives - not your normal fare, what? Not entirely unexpected, I must say, but mildly annoying. The money is not what is bothering me - it's the audacity she shows in ordering such extravagant dishes without so much as asking. Charge #1.
Next on to Cavern. We arrive to a hero's welcome - waiters are slapping me on the back like a long lost brother, girls are touching me all over, all 3 mama sans rush out to greet me. All three!! I am ushered to a prime spot and surrounded by adulating throngs. Smells suspicious, even if it isn't technically a crime.
I order a coke, my girl orders a hot tea, and five drinks arrive. I ask what the FUCK this is, and girlie says "oh tilak, dese dinks fo mama san all tree." All 3 mama sans!! Charge #2.
I wait 30 minutes before the show begins, and before my girl leaves, some ping pong balls arrive at my side. I say "no, not for me" and girlie insists: “Tilaaaaak. When I do show for you, you throw ball – is good.”. So I buy the minimum of 100B - 5 balls. And there you have it: Charge #3.
[B]The Road to Redemption[/B]
The show starts, and girlie is SPECCCCTACULAR. I know exactly why she has such a hold on me - sumptuous curves, splendid symmetry, incredible wide, round ass, absolutely perfect proportions. And the vision of a scorpion doing battle with a dragon across her naked back, across her bulging ass cheeks and down her perfect, sexy legs was enough to sooth grumpy Kumbu. Ok, some people may indeed be above the law.
Later, we get back to the hotel and she had not showered yet, so she still had the body art on. She could not wash the paint off herself, so she employed my skilled hands to really rub those ass cheeks and legs until they were clean. I of course rubbed and scrubbed and squeezed FAR more than necessary, in the guise of being diligent about cleaning her, but what conscious, sane man wouldn't, n'est-ce pas? Hygiene first, that's what I always say, well, at least when it comes to butt-cheek cleaning. She may be on her way to redemption.
Afterwards, we cuddled for 10 minutes, then she whispered that she wanted me to eat her. Kumbu at your service, m'lady. So I did my thing, same as the previous two times - 15 minutes of Falang tongue-to-the-pussy, and it all ended well for her. Is all forgiven? We're almost there, deary.
So now she needs to recuperate, and she says she wants to be held while this is happening. Uh-oh. So we spoon (wtf?!?!). Around 3 mins later, she stops all movement, and another 3 mins later she is deep breathing. Crime #4, cuffed and jailed.
[B]The Police Investigate[/B]
Little kumbu has gone from the good little soldier ready for inspection by the commander-in-chief, to the world's softest, most flaccid dishtowel. Not good. So what do I do? I have several choices.
#1. Wake her the fuck up and get what I paid for.
#2. Wake her the fuck up and kick her ass outta here.
#3. Wait until she wakes up and get what I paid for.
#4. Wait until she wakes up and then kick her ass outta here.
At this point, I was leaning towards #1 and #3. I wanted what I paid for, and kicking her the fuck outta here wasn't going to solve diddly. So I tried to wake her up, but she was out cold. She waved her hand and moaned a little, but she was really out cold. Hmm, this is NOT good.
[B]The Trial[/B]
So I stewed. I lay back on the bed and I walked myself through the night, calculating all the money I spent on her, starting with the drink in Baccara when I picked her up, the BF, the ridiculous dinner, the various drinks at Cavern, the ping-fucking-pong balls. My outlay was substantial, and she got a good pussy licking out of it, an orgasm, and now she is napping? NAPPING??
[B]Jury Deliberation[/B]
All of a sudden, I heard the Red Hot Chili Peppers singing in my head:
“I got dosed by you and
closer than most to you and
what am I supposed to do?
Take it away?
I never had it anyway
Take it away
And everything will be ok.”
What am I supposed to do? Take it away? I never had it anyway. I realized that I was the one over-reacting. I was the one getting pissy over something that is very natural. She is a gogo girl. This is what she DOES. Her job is to extract money, and the less she needs to put out the better. Simple. It was my mistake assuming that the money you pay is proportional to the returns. No such thing in gogo land. A chump has been revealed.
[B]The Verdict[/B]
Guilty as Charged.
[B]Sentencing[/B]
Many men at this point would have shaken the bejesus out of her, to get her to either perform or exit stage left. But with my new realization in hand, I went over to my laptop and started working. It soothes me. She woke up to the sound of her alarm half an hour later and screams 'Oh, me late – must go because my daughter wait me. Today her birthday, have to go!” All this was true – she had told me that she needed to leave early tonight (her usual departure time is 3am, this time it had to be 2am). So this much I knew, but that didn't make it any better. As she got ready, I kept my cool, no blow ups, I just focused on my work and plugged away at the computer, knowing full well what the correct sentence was.
[B]The Convict pleads for Mercy[/B]
This passive aggressive behavior was not lost on girlie. She says “Tilak, you angli me?” I looked at her and shook my head. I genuinely was not angli her. I knew she was very tired, I knew she had to leave early, none of it was unexpected. I was really more disappointed. Disappointed that a good thing has now come to an end. No more outrageous anal rimming sessions, no more large-ass kissing, no more fantastic anal sessions. Back to the normal stuff, sifting the wheat from the chaff, getting mostly chaff. And, let's be honest here, I was disappointed in myself.
She continues getting ready, and when she is ready to leave, she asks again;
Girlie: Tilaaaak, me tink you angli me. Why you no smile?
Kumbu: I'm not angry, I am disappointed.
Girlie: ...Tilaaaak, no be angli, iss no good.
Kumbu: I'm not angry, I'm disappointed.
Girlie: Dis...disa...why you angli me?
Kumbu: Not angry, disappointed. Look it up in your dictionary.
Girlie: ...
I realized she was waiting to be paid. ...hhh....hhhhhhhh....hhhhHHHHHH.....bbbBBBahahahahahahaahah.
[B]The Execution[/B]
I leaned over, placed my hands beneath her ears, holding her head in my hands, and kissed her gently on the forehead. My lips lingered a moment longer than they needed to, and as I slowly pulled away, and my lips gently broke contact with her skin, I knew that would be the last time I kiss her. I pulled back and looked into her eyes. The light was shining down onto her face, she looking up at me, her soft brown eyes illuminated by the yellow light. I saw a mixture of affection, confusion, distress, even fear. I gazed into her eyes searching for meaning, for satisfaction, and in that moment, for the very first time, we truly connected. There was a buzzing silence as we shared pure emotion across the tether of eye gaze. She saw into my heart, she saw the anguish in my eyes...and she understood. Her pupils dilated ever so slightly as she registered understanding. The muscles in her neck loosened, her eyes lost some energy, her smile disappeared, her shoulders sank, and she looked down at her feet. She knew she had done wrong. To my surprise, rather than protest or argue, she slowly turned around and walked out without another word.
I felt empty.[/QUOTE]OMG. Don't think a post on ISG or any other punter-type site has ever registered an emotional response in me that does not involve my dick. For those like me, who are too new to the scene to avoid falling into the emotional connection trap, this one hits too close to home for comfort. I've been there going through the list of the EXACT same 4 options before. I also tried the 'wake her up and get what I paid for'- to the same end as you (I think playing dead is a skill bar girls must learn- nobody is THAT tired a couple minutes after falling asleep).
What really bothers me when this has happened (3 or 4 times) is that it is my "reward" for being more than a one time customer. In all cases, the girl was fantastic the first night when she knew me for all of 30 minutes. Then, after time together, when things with a "regular" girl would only get better, that is their opening to take advantage of you. The worst was when I took a girl from a massage parlour overnight for the second night. 1st night was incredible, next day she was so happy I took her for the day, that the morning sex was even better. And that was the end of that. From there it was ordering from a part of the menu that was over the top, returning to the hotel and needing a nap, followed by dinner and sleep time. When I had had enough we talked and she, without shame or, seemingly, without understanding, expressed that I knew she had to work the following day and would probably have 5 or 6 guys fuck her, so. She needed her rest. I am not kidding. That was enough for me and the words, "get the fuck out' left my mouth and I kicked her out. That actually ended making me feel worse when she started crying. I wasn't having any of that and just wanted her to leave at that point. I had paid her for the first night but not the second, of which 1/2 was for her and the other 1/2 for her employer. I started to give her the money but told her she had not really earned it. I was a little surprised when she instantly agreed, but asked for jsut the money for her mamasan but not her share- which I gave herI. She took the money teary eyed and, after getting her stuff, walked out the door that I was holding open. She was almost out when she said she forgot something and ran back in for about 10 seconds and left crying. I shut the door and stood there for a couple minutes reflecting on this goat fuck. I then walked back into the room and learned what she rushed back into the room to do- laying on the bed was the money I had given her for her employer- 3000 baht.
Like you, I was more disappointed in myself than her. I felt like a complete tool, of the "sucker born every minute" variety. Thing is, I know what not to do, I know the rules of the road, but I find myself getting sucked in anyway. In the above case though I learned that although they're "all the same", they're not all the same.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]I order a coke, my girl orders a hot tea, and five drinks arrive. I ask what the FUCK this is, and girlie says "oh tilak, dese dinks fo mama san all tree." All 3 mama sans!![/QUOTE]I went with one of my regulars to KFC the other morning. I ordered something for like 100 baht. Then she ordered and the price skyrocketed past 300. I gave her "the look" without saying one word. That is when she said, "I ordered something for my roommates. I am going to give you the money for it." After I paid the cashier, she immediately gave me 120 baht for her friends' food. You have to keep them in line. Don't stand for them trying to take advantage of you. A good rule of thumb is before the waiter comes you ask the girl what she wants. If it is beyond what you are willing to pay for then make it known whichever way you choose. (My favorite way is, "I'm not about to pay for all that shit!") Then you place the order for both of you.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]I was really more disappointed. Disappointed that a good thing has now come to an end. No more outrageous anal rimming sessions, no more my surprise, rather than protest or argue, she slowly turned around and walked out without another word.
I felt empty.[/QUOTE]At least your pockets didn't feel as empty as they could have would you have given her money for a valuable night of yours that she wasted.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Apropos of absolutely sweet FA, interesting to read that Derrick ‘taxi-driver’ Bird was a frequent visitor to Pattaya, vacationing here 3 times a year. Who knows he may even have been a member of this forum!
Maybe his reputed financial problems was what finally drove him over the edge (holidaying in Pattaya is not so cheap any more!). Or maybe during his last call to his honeyko, he may have heard the unmistakable sound of masculine grunts and heavy breathing in the background:(.
P.S Bird was the maniac who ran amok in Cumbria last week[/QUOTE]Hello, Sir Cunning, yes I read the same. Normal story of a two week wonder thinking his girl only liked him. LOL.
And did you know that his brothers lawyer/solicitor, the one he shot first, came from our hometown!
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[quote=bionicman]i am not so sure it is sterile...
as a body fluid it might carry whatever one has on board (be it just a flu)
on the other end it is the result of "unusable remains from body feeding"
maybe a med.dr., can put some light on this if we do not digress too much.
but as it seems a sexual practice (in its way) it should not be too much ot.
on the other hand being practiced (not extensively) it does not seem to be sop unsafe, but..who knows?
if lot of body fluids are dangerous for certain deseases, i reckon this one can be too...
just my 2 cents..
ps: have done a quick check:
[[[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] is sterile until it reaches the urethra where the epithelial cells lining the urethra are colonized by facultatively aerobic gram negative rods and cocci.[1] subsequent to elimination from the body, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] can acquire strong odors due to bacterial action. most noticeably, the asphyxiating ammonia is produced by breakdown of urea. some diseases alter the quantity and consistency of the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url], such as sugar as a consequence of diabetes.]]
there is also a reference of it being sterile in a "healthy body", so it is all relevant...[/quote]you're partly correct. i just didn't particularly want to get into the subject of bladder and urethral infections... :)
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] is not the unusable remains from feeding - that emerges from a separate orifice. it is the metabolic waste products of normal body chemistry, heavily filtered and purified. i'm pretty sure viruses wouldn't get through.
just so happens that i have been studying this recently, following what i thought might be an std infection. after a couple of visits to a specialist i was reassured. he said that occasionally one can get low-level infections of the bladder , but if it is not troublesome then it is not a medical problem.
anyway, it's not a subject i ever plan to study from a practical perspective.
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Any new reports?
Just wondering how the girls look and quantity found on beach road and sois 6, 7 and 8.
Any russian street walkers around?
These sensitive, girly poetic reports are imho borderline gay.
Testosterone check needed, aisle 1.
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Wtf !!!
[QUOTE=Kumbu]
I order a coke, my girl orders a hot tea, and five drinks arrive. I ask what the FUCK this is, and girlie says "oh tilak, dese dinks fo mama san all tree." All 3 mama sans!! Charge #2.
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How do you handle a situation like this? Just pay and let it go to keep a good relationship or refuse to pay and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the mamas. Can you refuse to pay since you did not order the drinks? I have seen this in other reports but never saw the resolution.
Thanks for the great reports Kumbu.
Slim
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]
But I would rather be in your head Mr Kumbu than Mr Angry Amjeck's.
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Amjeck is not angry. Amjeck knows how to play the game in Pattaya. Amjeck doesn't overpay for Pattaya pussy nor does he get taken advantage of by sweet coniving thai girls. (i've gone through a learning curve, however, and have had my mishaps too)
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[QUOTE=Bill]Just wondering how the girls look and quantity found on beach road and sois 6, 7 and 8.
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Soi 6 girls finally taking 500 ST again. Selection nothing special, but the price drop is good.
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[QUOTE=Waste Mgmt]In the above case though I learned that although they're "all the same", they're not all the same.[/QUOTE]
No, they're not ... off walking street once I walked past a beer bar with only one cute girl and a older bartender/mamasan girl. I stopped for a beer and chatted with the cute girl. While I was with her, an skanky british guy came in and talked to the bartender. The cute girl cowered and hid her face against me, and next thing I know she's crying. On his way out, the guy jeers at her. Apparently he was complaining about her to the bartender. When he leaves, she pulls herself together. We chat again for a while, and she's very sweet. After all this, I eventually ask if I can barfine her, longtime. Back in the room, she freezes up and doesn't so much as want to undress. She wants to go to sleep immediately, fully clothed. I shake my head sternly. She kinda crumples, and gives me the barfine (unasked, I didn't want to take it and she put it on the bed) and slinks out.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Amjeck is not angry. Amjeck knows how to play the game in Pattaya. Amjeck doesn't overpay for Pattaya pussy nor does he get taken advantage of by sweet coniving thai girls. (i've gone through a learning curve, however, and have had my mishaps too)[/QUOTE]I think that is the point. It is a game (with some very strange rules!). But like all games I prefer to play with a smile, and if I lose, I lose graciously :) Good luck to you!
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[quote=mouse1]you're partly correct. i just didn't particularly want to get into the subject of bladder and urethral infections... :)
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] is not the unusable remains from feeding - that emerges from a separate orifice. it is the metabolic waste products of normal body chemistry, heavily filtered and purified. i'm pretty sure viruses wouldn't get through.
just so happens that i have been studying this recently, following what i thought might be an std infection. after a couple of visits to a specialist i was reassured. he said that occasionally one can get low-level infections of the bladder , but if it is not troublesome then it is not a medical problem.
anyway, it's not a subject i ever plan to study from a practical perspective.[/quote]many bugs causing stis reside in urethra. in women sti screen a specimen is usually taken from urethra (in some clinics) and men can get infection from sections of urethra. similarly one can get tummy bugs from mouth to anus contact. most sensible nurses in sti clinic would ask "did you use condom at every stage of sex?" if you say no, they would straight away mark you high risk and offer you all kind of tests in rainbow colour tubes.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]She wants to go to sleep immediately, fully clothed.[/QUOTE]On a related note, my first TGF was absolutely petrified of being seen naked by me outside the bed. Showers were solitary, and if I dared to peak in she would literally cower in a foetal position on the floor. When in bed she was fine, and then afterwards she would shower and get dressed before going to bed fully clothed.
Bizarre. Even more bizarre since she worked in a soapy! But she rationalised it as work vs play...
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Beautiful, just beautiful
[QUOTE=Kumbu][B]The Execution[/B]
I leaned over, placed my hands beneath her ears, holding her head in my hands, and kissed her gently on the forehead. My lips lingered a moment longer than they needed to, and as I slowly pulled away, and my lips gently broke contact with her skin, I knew that would be the last time I kiss her. I pulled back and looked into her eyes. The light was shining down onto her face, she looking up at me, her soft brown eyes illuminated by the yellow light. I saw a mixture of affection, confusion, distress, even fear. I gazed into her eyes searching for meaning, for satisfaction, and in that moment, for the very first time, we truly connected. There was a buzzing silence as we shared pure emotion across the tether of eye gaze. She saw into my heart, she saw the anguish in my eyes...and she understood. Her pupils dilated ever so slightly as she registered understanding. The muscles in her neck loosened, her eyes lost some energy, her smile disappeared, her shoulders sank, and she looked down at her feet. She knew she had done wrong. To my surprise, rather than protest or argue, she slowly turned around and walked out without another word.
I felt empty.[/QUOTE]
Brought water to my eyes....Kumbu is the MAN
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Calling all "Pats" mongers...
That desire variety in their sex "diets"!
Are you tired of having sex with "same old, same old" Isaan Thai SPs?
Are with "worn out" with the fact that most of the "exotic imports" are from Cambodia and Laos and look about the same, anyway!
Do your "socks curl" when the Russian women on Walking Street tell you their prices?
Then, try something REALLY different...Uzbekistanis!(well, there ALMOST like Russians, after all!).
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/06/08/police-arrest-of-uzbekistani-mamasan-and-her-prostitutes-in-pattaya/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PattayaDailyNews+%28Pattaya+Daily+News+-+Pattaya+news+Powerful+news+at+your+fingertips%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail[/url]
But then, on closer inspection...maybe NOT!
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
I leaned over, placed my hands beneath her ears, holding her head in my hands, and kissed her gently on the forehead. My lips lingered a moment longer than they needed to, and as I slowly pulled away, and my lips gently broke contact with her skin, I knew that would be the last time I kiss her. I pulled back and looked into her eyes. The light was shining down onto her face, she looking up at me, her soft brown eyes illuminated by the yellow light. I saw a mixture of affection, confusion, distress, even fear. I gazed into her eyes searching for meaning, for satisfaction, and in that moment, for the very first time, we truly connected. There was a buzzing silence as we shared pure emotion across the tether of eye gaze. She saw into my heart, she saw the anguish in my eyes...and she understood. Her pupils dilated ever so slightly as she registered understanding. The muscles in her neck loosened, her eyes lost some energy, her smile disappeared, her shoulders sank, and she looked down at her feet. She knew she had done wrong. To my surprise, rather than protest or argue, she slowly turned around and walked out without another word.
I felt empty.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha - beautifully written, matey. Sort of like Mills & Boone meets ISG. How you get away with it, I just don't know;). You will have all the lurkers out there dripping salty secretions of a different kind for a change...lol. Proves that most of us are big softies under our teak like exterior.
You said that the oysters were expensive. Must have been imported as I usually find that oysters in Thailand are extremely cheap and utterly delicious. I know that I shouldn't but I cannot resist a 'Hawy Tawt' omlette or two whilst in town and hope that my Hep A shots do their job!!
P.S Once had a GF who used to blush crimson and giggle when I told her how much I loved 'hawy'. Seems that in Thai it has another meaning and I love eating that form of 'hawy' as well:).
[QUOTE=FreebieFan]
And did you know that his brothers lawyer/solicitor, the one he shot first, came from our hometown![/QUOTE]
Wow, you are right. I usually give a cheer when another fat, greedy, conniving lawyer bites the dust but not if he is a 'Donny' lad. Has to be the salt of the earth:).
Trouble is that 'Donny' and solicitors have a history of being synonymous with bent!
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Must read daily...
[QUOTE=Lexb]That desire variety in their sex "diets"!
Then, try something REALLY different...Uzbekistanis!(well, there ALMOST like Russians, after all!).
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/06/08/police-arrest-of-uzbekistani-mamasan-and-her-prostitutes-in-pattaya/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PattayaDailyNews+%28Pattaya+Daily+News+-+Pattaya+news+Powerful+news+at+your+fingertips%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail[/url]
But then, on closer inspection...maybe NOT![/QUOTE]Wow. What an interesting newspaper. Death, disease, robbery, suicide, Pattaya Daily News has become my new " must read".
Forget World Cup updates, I'm going to be reading this paper now every day. Such a lot of drama in one town!
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[QUOTE=Lexb]That desire variety in their sex "diets"!
Are you tired of having sex with "same old, same old" Isaan Thai SPs?
Are with "worn out" with the fact that most of the "exotic imports" are from Cambodia and Laos and look about the same, anyway!
Do your "socks curl" when the Russian women on Walking Street tell you their prices?
Then, try something REALLY different...Uzbekistanis!(well, there ALMOST like Russians, after all!).
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/06/08/police-arrest-of-uzbekistani-mamasan-and-her-prostitutes-in-pattaya/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PattayaDailyNews+%28Pattaya+Daily+News+-+Pattaya+news+Powerful+news+at+your+fingertips%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail[/url]
But then, on closer inspection...maybe NOT![/QUOTE]I watched the embedded video clip and I have to say I felt pretty sorry for them. It's bad enough being arrested for prostitution in Pattaya (I'll say that again slowly: arrested for prostitution in Pattaya...), but made worse by some dick-head from the Pattaya Daily News shoving his camera lens up their noses and photographing their passports.
(OK, TIT, but what is a cameraman doing in a police station anyway? In most other countries if they went to trial now they would walk away free after that 'unbiased' report).
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]Once had a GF who used to blush crimson and giggle when I told her how much I loved 'hawy'. Seems that in Thai it has another meaning and I love eating that form of 'hawy' as well:).[/QUOTE]... and indeed in English too:
[url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oyster[/url]
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Lol..
They should have known prostitution is illegal in Thailand.
Don't they know the law?
[QUOTE=Lexb]That desire variety in their sex "diets"!
Are you tired of having sex with "same old, same old" Isaan Thai SPs?
Are with "worn out" with the fact that most of the "exotic imports" are from Cambodia and Laos and look about the same, anyway!
Do your "socks curl" when the Russian women on Walking Street tell you their prices?
Then, try something REALLY different...Uzbekistanis!(well, there ALMOST like Russians, after all!).
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/06/08/police-arrest-of-uzbekistani-mamasan-and-her-prostitutes-in-pattaya/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PattayaDailyNews+%28Pattaya+Daily+News+-+Pattaya+news+Powerful+news+at+your+fingertips%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail[/url]
But then, on closer inspection...maybe NOT![/QUOTE]
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Another quiet rainy Tuesday evening
Arrived in Pattaya yesterday afternoon. My hotel stays have gradually moved along the coast until now I am staying at Soi 3. Not sure it's the best location, but will give me a chance to explore some unexplored bits. Grabbed some food and did a bit of work in the BeerGarden - I think it is a great location if you have to do some work, with an excellent free wifi service and attentive staff. If only my office at home was like this...
Not many ladies of course, although one absolute stunner did walk in and sat down behind me. She bought 2 beers and kept making phone calls, but I think in the end she was stood up. I was tempted to go and talk to her, but she acted a bit too much like she knew she was a stunner, if you see what I mean.
Back to the hotel by bus to ditch the laptop. I was actually feeling a bit queasy, so was almost tempted to have an evening in with a good book. If only I could find a good lady called Book :) Set off to explore the local area just as it started to pour down with rain, but got to the sanctuary of a beer complex at the top of Soi 4 just in time. I paced through the bars checking out the talent, but there was really only one bar with any attractive girls, and that had 3. So I sat next to the most attractive and ordered a G&T.
Had a few emails to deal with on my Blackberry, and was roundly ignored by all the girls there. Finally, after a gentle verbal push from the mamasan, one of them quietly asked my name. We chatted in a very desultory fashion for a while, although her English was pretty weak, and I bought her a drink, until two young Japanese guys came in from the rain. The whole bar was suddenly all over them like a rash... To be fair, it was one guy's birthday, so he rang the bell and I got another drink. At which point my companion got up and wandered off. So that was 280Bht for a couple of G&T's, a lady drink, and a bored conversation. Not a great start to my evening, feeling like the fat spotty kid on sports day. :( I made my excuses and left.
I braved the rain, and by dodging through various bars made it as far as Soi 6. On the way I bumped into one young lady who was somewhat more friendly, and as a result will get a visit this evening. :) I wasn't really up for a Soi 6 session, preferring a quiet evening chatting and a couple of beers. Ha! Fat chance of that! I was spotted by one SYT whose enthusiasm for me more than made up for the earlier disappointment, and she encouraged me in for 'just one drink'.
She was young and beautiful, certainly a cut above the average, and she had good English. We had a great conversation, which was somehow more interesting because half the time she was straddling me or trying to put her tongue down my throat. Young people of today - no manners :(.
And luckily she found the bulge in my trousers particularly attractive (I always carry a well-stocked wallet). So off we went upstairs. I made it clear that if she took it very slowly, no rush, she would have a repeat customer. And she did. Fantastic experience.
Incidentally, what is the deal about taking girls out o/n from Soi 6? I presume a barfine and a negotiated fee? What would be the appropriate amount - 1500Bht? I would happily take her back for an all-nighter (well, in my case, 20 minutes of sex, 8 hours sleep, 10 minutes sex :( )
So that was that. Braved the rain, said hi to the friendly girl, and back in my hotel room dripping wet before I knew it.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Soi 6 girls finally taking 500 ST again. Selection nothing special, but the price drop is good.[/QUOTE]Just out of interest, and I'm not trying to be provocative, but do you negotiate down first (and then hope for an enthusiastic performance), or do you just slip them a 500Bht note on the way out?
And if you negotiate, what do you say? When I get asked 2000Bht for ST in BKK I can genuinely recoil in mock horror, and say 'No, too much' and make a counter offer. I'm not sure I could keep a straight face if I had to say 'What! 700Bht (£15) to have sex with a hot 20-year old? Too much!' :)
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]I'm not sure I could keep a straight face if I had to say 'What! 700Bht (£15) to have sex with a hot 20-year old? Too much!' :)[/QUOTE]I could. What in Buddha's name does a 20 year old need with a whopping 700 baht?!
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Just out of interest, and I'm not trying to be provocative, but do you negotiate down first (and then hope for an enthusiastic performance), or do you just slip them a 500Bht note on the way out?
And if you negotiate, what do you say? When I get asked 2000Bht for ST in BKK I can genuinely recoil in mock horror, and say 'No, too much' and make a counter offer. I'm not sure I could keep a straight face if I had to say 'What! 700Bht (£15) to have sex with a hot 20-year old? Too much!' :)[/QUOTE]
I speak to them in thai and I say "the normal price on this road is 500ST". Then I say " I don't want you for 2 hours only 30 minutes or so". Then I smile and say "come on lets go" That sometimes works, but if they turn sour during negotiating, I pay 600 or 700. It's not really a big deal, but if I can save money I will..
Soi 6 girls are bottom barrel and they know it. They go through so many guys in a day, so they will grab the easy 500 if they know its quick and fast. Most of these girls come from small villages "moo bahns" where 500 is a considerable amount of money which takes 2-3 days to make on the farm.
It's kinda a game (negotiating),but the main reason I negotiate price is because, throughout my time in Thailand, I've found that the girls willing to come down on price for sex are always better in bed than the girls who won't budge on price. I don't know the reason for this.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I could. What in Buddha's name does a 20 year old need with a whopping 700 baht?![/QUOTE]
To give to the stupid useless Thai boyfriend who is feeding all that Bai Wan to her 20 year old brain.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I speak to them in thai and I say "the normal price on this road is 500ST".[/QUOTE]
You do get some that won't budge from 1000B, but in that case I pick someone else. At Clansman in particular they've tried to sting me for 1000, but reverted to 700.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Most of these girls come from small villages "moo bahns" where 500 is a considerable amount of money which takes 2-3 days to make on the farm.[/QUOTE]
Say 500 takes 3 days, then one day is 166. Say they work for 20 days, then that's 3300B. Would they really make 3300+ B/month on a farm?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Soi 6 girls are bottom barrel and they know it. [/QUOTE]It's interesting, isn't it... I've only really discovered Soi 6 and its girls in the last couple of trips, and so far in 2 days I have been with 2 of them. Both absolutely stunning figures, slim, young and beautiful. Could easily be gogo dancers (although today's young lady probably had slightly smaller breasts than me!). Certainly the first was enthusiastic, while the second was by no means a starfish. They may be low in the Pattaya pecking order, but high in my estimation. :)
I've had enough experiences of chatting up girls in bars to know that the sex afterwards is somewhat hit-and-miss. At least with the Soi 6 girls they know exactly why you are there and I think they aim to deliver.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]... Would they really make 3300+ B/month on a farm?[/QUOTE]
According to the 2009 mid-year economic review by the Bangkok Post, the monthly average wage in the agricultural sector is lesser than 4000 baht (it was 3679 baht in this review).
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I know for sure that a lot of people living in the poor villages of Northeastern Thailand earn lesser than 3000 baht/month and most of them seem to be very happy.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]According to the 2009 mid-year economic review by the Bangkok Post, the monthly average wage in the agricultural sector is lesser than 4000 baht (it was 3679 baht in this review).
[url]http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/4504/ber2009p6.gif[/url]
I know for sure that a lot of people living in the poor villages of Northeastern Thailand earn lesser than 3000 baht/month and most of them seem to be very happy.[/QUOTE]It is very interesting to know this figure.
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Actually, the oysters were not terribly expensive, it was the combination of oysters and the crab dish that put the check-bin over the top. But both were very delicious, I must agree.[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]You said that the oysters were expensive. Must have been imported as I usually find that oysters in Thailand are extremely cheap and utterly delicious. I know that I shouldn't but I cannot resist a 'Hawy Tawt' omlette or two whilst in town and hope that my Hep A shots do their job!![/QUOTE]
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I like all kinds of Thai seafood - but I like to eat clam best :)
(Ask a Thai what it means if you don't know)
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1000 ST gogos?
Anybody getting 1000ST from pattaya gogo's on walking street now? I'm finding almost all won't go below 1500ST. I'm not sure what's up (might just be me), but I used to get 1000ST from lots of gogo girls during past low seasons.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Both absolutely stunning figures, slim, young and beautiful. Could easily be gogo dancers [/QUOTE]
Go walk into some gogo's in Pattaya and you'll discover that almost any thai girl who is willing to put on a sexy uniform, get her hair done, and put on some make-up could easily become a gogo dancer.
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September??
I'm not a newbie to LOS or Pattaya, but never been there in Sept. I am thinking about spending a week in Bali and a week in Pattaya in Sept. I think Bali will be fine in Sept. It should be more peaceful with the Aussies leaving after vacation, etc.
In Pataya, is this choice ok? I know it will be low season, but I"m sure I'll find a girl. LOL. However, I'm even more concerned about the weather. I know it's very rainy then. Is this a big deal?
While I'm asking, I"m assuming I probably have to do the RT from San Fran to Bkk...then Air Asia to Denespar, Bali?
Opinions?
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Go walk into some gogo's in Pattaya and you'll discover that almost any thai girl who is willing to put on a sexy uniform, get her hair done, and put on some make-up could easily become a gogo dancer.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Goyave]According to the 2009 mid-year economic review by the Bangkok Post, the monthly average wage in the agricultural sector is lesser than 4000 baht [/QUOTE]
Yes. And I wager the girls working in Pattaya would not be out as labourers back home. They probably help out on their family's paddy for no money, mostly.
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making up
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Anybody getting 1000ST from Pattaya gogo's on walking street now? I'm finding almost all won't go below 1500ST. I'm not sure what's up (might just be me), but I used to get 1000ST from lots of gogo girls during past low seasons.[/QUOTE]Amjeck,
Maybe they are making up for lost revenue is been slow the past month because of the curfew, what about the average one because the hot one alway want 1500 bht st, I would just go to disco like lucifer for freelance no barfine there alway find someone there for 1000 bht.
Fast Eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Anybody getting 1000ST from pattaya gogo's on walking street now?[/QUOTE]
Last time I took a girl at Thigh Bar in Patpong, which wasn't low season, mamasan gave me 2000 all in -- that's barfine, room in a ST-hotel opposite, and ST fee.
On Walking, there's Rocket A-go-go, they also do 2000 all in with room upstairs. OK if you don't want to go back to your hotel.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Anybody getting 1000ST from pattaya gogo's on walking street now? I'm finding almost all won't go below 1500ST. I'm not sure what's up (might just be me), but I used to get 1000ST from lots of gogo girls during past low seasons.[/QUOTE]Amjeck, if you're not getting it then I'm sure it's not happening!
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Go walk into some gogo's in Pattaya and you'll discover that almost any thai girl who is willing to put on a sexy uniform, get her hair done, and put on some make-up could easily become a gogo dancer.[/QUOTE]OK, point taken, there are some less-than-fit gogo dancers. I was just saying that some of the girls in Soi 6 have fantastic figures, even when the hugely padded bra comes off!
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]OK, point taken, there are some less-than-fit gogo dancers. I was just saying that some of the girls in Soi 6 have fantastic figures, even when the hugely padded bra comes off![/QUOTE]
Yah, if you comb through soi 6 sometimes you find nice cutties. Goes to say for all of pattaya, but you got to do the ground work. Hunting in Pattaya keeps you fit.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Yah, if you comb through soi 6 sometimes you find nice cutties. Goes to say for all of pattaya, but you got to do the ground work. Hunting in Pattaya keeps you fit.[/QUOTE]The advantage of Soi 6 to me is that it is more like a supermarket... A leisurely stroll up and down will allow me to see a huge number of girls on display. Some of those will be enthusiastic/ pushy (like the one who nicked my sunglasses yesterday), some will give a welcome smile, and some don't seem bothered. A few moments chat with half a dozen of the happy smiley girls will clarify which speak reasonable English, and which on closer inspection are attractive, then names and bars can be mentally noted. A decision reached and a slow stroll back to the delighted girl who has been singled out from the others!
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Anybody getting 1000ST from pattaya gogo's on walking street now? I'm finding almost all won't go below 1500ST. I'm not sure what's up (might just be me), but I used to get 1000ST from lots of gogo girls during past low seasons.[/QUOTE]I was there last week and most girls in the Go-gos that I went to were happy with B1000 for ST. As a matter of fact, I got a real stunner from Nui's Bar in Walking Street for B700 barfine then B1000 ST. She went back to the bar at about 1am and I got a call from my hotel reception at about 3am saying that I had a friend downstairs to see me. I thought my mate had got into trouble but it was this same girl from Nui's. She came up to the room again and I fucked her again, then she stayed all morning till about lunchtime and gave me a goodbye blow job. And! Didn't want anymore money. I couldn't believe it, just my lucky night I suppose. Great natural tits and a good fuck as well, she used to work in Dennis the Menace bar in Soi 7 up until recently before moving to Nui's
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Football vs. Soccer
Let me be the first to ask this: Does anyone have a recommended venue for watching the game on Saturday?
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]They may be low in the Pattaya pecking order, but high in my estimation. :)[/QUOTE]I've known a number of seriously nice Soi 6 girls over the years and believe me, they were neither bottom of the barrel nor did they think themselves to be. These were girls who could have worked anywhere in town, and in fact several had come from top Walking Street go-gos. They just preferred the hours, the money, and the job description (shag, get paid) on Soi 6.
Sure, the standard on this soi is low, but the good ones are as good as anywhere else. Just not for B500!
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A Pub With No Beer
The Pig & Whistle would be the best place to watch the footie- Half way down or up Soi 7.Last week they had no John Smiths beer and this applied to the Butchers Arms on Soi Buckaw who did sell Tetleys.
Both have Air Conditioners and are Bar Girl Free
Areca Hotel have Cable and UBC Sport
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Let me be the first to ask this: Does anyone have a recommended venue for watching the game on Saturday?[/QUOTE]
Which game? ;)
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The title says it
[QUOTE=Gwailo]Which game? ;)[/QUOTE]You can tell which game by the title of the post:
Football vs. Soccer = England vs. USA
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Problem with soi 6
[QUOTE=Mouse1]The advantage of Soi 6 to me is that it is more like a supermarket. A leisurely stroll up and down will allow me to see a huge number of girls on display. Some of those will be enthusiastic/ pushy (like the one who nicked my sunglasses yesterday), some will give a welcome smile, and some don't seem bothered. A few moments chat with half a dozen of the happy smiley girls will clarify which speak reasonable English, and which on closer inspection are attractive, then names and bars can be mentally noted. A decision reached and a slow stroll back to the delighted girl who has been singled out from the others![/QUOTE]To Mouse 1,
I never had any girl with good service at soi 6 most are young and inexperience and bad attuide, girl at walking st are better quality but more expensive.
Fast Eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]You can tell which game by the title of the post:
Football vs. Soccer = England vs. USA[/QUOTE]Glad to see someone is on the ball! More than Ferdinand ever was... :)
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4 Days in Pattaya
I have no hope of matching the eloquence of Kumbu’s entertaining reports but of course I can still summarize my visit in the hope that it provides something useful for others. As an older guy I am pretty easily pleased and I thought it was a great trip.
Used Mr T for late night transport (midnight) from Airport to Pattaya – easy, efficient and 1000B.
Stayed Tim Boutique Hotel – (1500) - no joiner fees and efficient friendly operation. I took a maximum of 2 girls to my room – others have said there is a joiner fee for 3 but I did not test it. The girls leave their id cards at the desk and the desk calls you when they leave to check everything is OK. Good location mid-way between Walking St and Soi 6.
Found nice girls at the usual places and no point in labouring those – Happy, What’s Up, Airport, Baccara, Windmill and Beach Club. Found not much going on at Angelwitch and BabyGirls. LT was had for 2300 and ST was 1000. While I agree the average is lower in Soi 6, I found some genuinely nice girls, young, good looking with great bodies and plenty of desire for some exploration beyond slam/bam/thank you mam. Definitely be back there.
One thing I never quite figured was how to hook up with the stunners. I saw plenty out walking with various farang guys but never saw any of them solo in spite of hanging at the usual locations during the day. Maybe my good luck not to!
Before my trip I posted about how to be sure that I wasn’t hooking up with a LB on the street. I got chided (rightly) by several and told to toughen up!! Well somehow I did make the mistake and hey…… the world did not stop. When I realized my error I disengaged politely and found another bar. A little respect goes a long way and everyone deserves it – it was not the LB’s fault but mine so no point getting angry about it. That’s life.
Thanks for the advice and cheers to all.
Bubba
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Five Good Go-go Bars in Pattaya
Last night, along with 2 other veteran ISG members for pleasant company, I visited The Cavern, a new go-go joint on Walking Street near the entrance to Soi Diamond on the beach side of the street. It represents a complete gutting and makeover of Sisters a-go-go which folded a few months ago for lack of talent and customers.
As the new name implies, the place is done out well in an underground ‘cave’ motif complete with rocks, boulders, a meandering stream, and fountains to give customers the feeling that they are exploring the exotic delights of a prehistoric pussy grotto. Nice job!
There are 3 stages for watching the action and at least 40 dancing girls were milling about all dressed in faux leopard skin ‘cave girl’ loin cloth outfits and in varying states of nudity. A few were completely nude, and there were some young cuties as well… one I remember in particular with a sweet face and a fine round luscious bubble butt.
Later, we strolled down to the brand new Peppermint a-go-go now located on the ground floor near the old up-stairs Peppermint and just across from Soi Marine Plaza on the beach side. This was the bar’s opening night debut.
Another very nice job and definitely a better business location, but I was surprised to discover that the inside is laid out exactly the same as the old joint, yet with only about half the floor space. It was crowded early and hard to find a perch with a good vantage point. Lots of cuties there as always and the atmosphere is pleasantly charged. A couple of the pole dancers were demanding tips for showing their pussies which was mildly annoying (the tip demands – not the pussies).
Apparently, these two new bars, together with Happy, (an all-time favorite) Baccara, (a great new favorite), and Beach Club (a less traveled stop), share the same owners and this is reflected in the excellent way they all are managed. They all feature the same ‘happy hour’ policy offering draft beer and house spirits at 59 baht each until 9:30pm every night, which results in customers flocking in droves even during low season.
The quality of the girls is good up to fantastic too – another customer draw – and they are much less aggressive for lady drinks, tips and bar fines than girls at some other bars. Each bar also has comfortable air conditioned seating and a wait staff of men who hustle to serve the customers wants without pushing them to buy drinks. There are no greedy grasping mamasans to deal with.
Whoever the owners are, it is obvious that they know how to make money running inexpensive but quality pussy establishments for hungry mongers.
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Thanks to Daddy07
For his usual observant and "to the point" reports of Walking Street bars!
[Quote=Daddy07]Five Good Go-go Bars in Pattaya
Last night, along with 2 other veteran ISG members for pleasant company, I visited The Cavern, a new go-go joint on Walking Street near the entrance to Soi Diamond on the beach side of the street. It represents a complete gutting and makeover of Sisters a-go-go which folded a few months ago for lack of talent and customers.
As the new name implies, the place is done out well in an underground ‘cave’ motif complete with rocks, boulders, a meandering stream, and fountains to give customers the feeling that they are exploring the exotic delights of a prehistoric pussy grotto. Nice job!
There are 3 stages for watching the action and at least 40 dancing girls were milling about all dressed in faux leopard skin ‘cave girl’ loin cloth outfits and in varying states of nudity. A few were completely nude, and there were some young cuties as well… one I remember in particular with a sweet face and a fine round luscious bubble butt.
Later, we strolled down to the brand new Peppermint a-go-go now located on the ground floor near the old up-stairs Peppermint and just across from Soi Marine Plaza on the beach side. This was the bar’s opening night debut.
Another very nice job and definitely a better business location, but I was surprised to discover that the inside is laid out exactly the same as the old joint, yet with only about half the floor space. It was crowded early and hard to find a perch with a good vantage point. Lots of cuties there as always and the atmosphere is pleasantly charged. A couple of the pole dancers were demanding tips for showing their pussies which was mildly annoying (the tip demands – not the pussies).
Apparently, these two new bars, together with Happy, (an all-time favorite) Baccara, (a great new favorite), and Beach Club (a less traveled stop), share the same owners and this is reflected in the excellent way they all are managed. They all feature the same ‘happy hour’ policy offering draft beer and house spirits at 59 baht each until 9:30pm every night, which results in customers flocking in droves even during low season.
The quality of the girls is good up to fantastic too – another customer draw – and they are much less aggressive for lady drinks, tips and bar fines than girls at some other bars. Each bar also has comfortable air conditioned seating and a wait staff of men who hustle to serve the customers wants without pushing them to buy drinks. There are no greedy grasping mamasans to deal with.
Whoever the owners are, it is obvious that they know how to make money running inexpensive but quality pussy establishments for hungry mongers.[/Quote]I can only imagine how much inconvenience, time and money he has saved for various "Pats" mongers who have read and used his reports to decide what Walking Street bars to visit!
Keep up the good work!
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Soi 6 girls
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To Mouse 1,
I never had any girl with good service at soi 6 most are young and inexperience and bad attuide, girl at walking st are better quality but more expensive.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]That's obviously your experience, so I won't argue. But... I've just come back from my third encounter in 3 days with delightful girls who are warm, affectionate, fun and very sexy. All with fantastic slim figures.
The latest was a former gogo dancer from Sakura(?) which apparently closed down a few weeks ago. She is 21, gorgeous and excellent attitude. Incidentally she said she only had one customer yesterday, and none the day before...
I have asked each if they would do LT, and two of them are happy to do so, so it is my plan to pick one up tonight about 11pm and bring her back for some horizontal jogging in my hotel room.
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[QUOTE=Ham Yai]The Pig & Whistle would be the best place to watch the footie- Half way down or up Soi 7.Last week they had no John Smiths beer and this applied to the Butchers Arms on Soi Buckaw who did sell Tetleys.
[/QUOTE]Great, thanks.
I'll be the large overweight red-faced Brit wearing a football shirt two-sizes too small, clutching a pint of beer and shouting hoarsely. I should be instantly recognizable. :)
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Great, thanks.
I'll be the large overweight red-faced Brit wearing a football shirt two-sizes too small, clutching a pint of beer and shouting hoarsely. I should be instantly recognizable. :)[/QUOTE]Awesome. I'll try to drop by if I can get into town in time. I will be the brown wiry guy looking sheepish and out of place.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Last night, along with 2 other veteran ISG members for pleasant company, I visited The Cavern...the brand new Peppermint a-go-go now located on the ground floor...Apparently, these two new bars, together with Happy, (an all-time favorite) Baccara, (a great new favorite), and Beach Club (a less traveled stop), share the same owners and this is reflected in the excellent way they all are managed. They all feature the same ‘happy hour’ policy offering draft beer and house spirits at 59 baht each until 9:30pm every night...The quality of the girls is good up to fantastic too...Each bar also has comfortable air conditioned seating...Whoever the owners are, it is obvious that they know how to make money running inexpensive but quality pussy establishments for hungry mongers.[/QUOTE]If I didn't so whole heartedly agree with your assessment of these places, I would suspect YOU of being said owner. But I do indeed agree with your review fully. Looks like someone is angling for a Report of Distinction...
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Soi 6 girls continued
[QUOTE=Mouse1]It is my plan to pick one up tonight about 11pm and bring her back for some horizontal jogging in my hotel room.[/QUOTE]Predictably enough, despite my arrangements and a couple of texts, when I arrived at the bar at around 11pm, my girl B was 'busy upstairs'. I guess I could have waited, but, er, NO! :(
I slightly embarrassed myself beforehand by talking to another girl, with an identical figure and smile although a very different hairstyle, thinking it was B. During those few moments conversation I did pick up some very good vibes though, so when the mamasan came over to see what she could do for me, I was very tempted... It turned out that J had started work that afternoon (at that bar). So, a young, potentially inexperienced girl that I had not got to know. A complete unknown, a recipe for disaster, no question.
I paid the barfine, and we strolled off to get a Baht bus to the end of Soi 3. Luckily it had stopped raining (I was most amused earlier to see a traffic cone gently sailing down Beach Road, which must have been a foot under water), so we were able to walk down Soi 3 which gave time for a chat. It turned out she was 23, with a 6-year old child. Yeah, I can do the calculations too... She was very sweet, very smiley and chatty, but with limited English.
We got to my room, where she through her arms around me and gave me a DFK. I responded with enthusiasm, at which she broke away laughing, saying that I was 'ting tong' too. From then on, things went from good to better, then better to best, reaching bestest about an hour or so later. :) (An hour in mouse time; probably ten minutes in your time!).
She happily drifted off to sleep in my arms afterwards, until we woke at the disgustingly early hour of 7am to put into practice what we had been learning the previous night. Starting off with a very long soixante-neuf, during which she wriggled enthusiastically, as if to say she was enjoying it (or trying to escape!). Afterwards we finished off in about 5 minutes mouse-time(!), followed by a quick shower, and departure. So here I am alone with just my memories and a keyboard...
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World cup games
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Let me be the first to ask this: Does anyone have a recommended venue for watching the game on Saturday?[/QUOTE]Id go to tims bar on 2nd road if I was you, its like a dedicated place for football, with a giant screen, dimmed lights etc, can't vouch for the atmosphere though, I'm here to watch world cup myself having declined to go to south africa, and I'm a bit dissaointed so far.
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soi 6
[QUOTE=Betong]I've known a number of seriously nice Soi 6 girls over the years and believe me, they were neither bottom of the barrel nor did they think themselves to be. These were girls who could have worked anywhere in town, and in fact several had come from top Walking Street go-gos. They just preferred the hours, the money, and the job description (shag, get paid) on Soi 6.
Sure, the standard on this soi is low, but the good ones are as good as anywhere else. Just not for B500![/QUOTE]When you have a good close look there in soi 6, there are some gems there, I really like the slim, white skinned type, and I often find them there, I think the best thing about soi 6 is the girls attitude, they are up for anything, and I like the convenience of it, like a kid in a sweetshop, choose the girl, pay the 1000 and off you go upstairs, done and dusted. Can't beat that for value.
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at odds
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To Mouse 1,
I never had any girl with good service at soi 6 most are young and inexperience and bad attuide, girl at walking st are better quality but more expensive.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Thats strange, I find it the opposite, good attitude and good service, maybe a little inexperienced, but that can be a bit of a turn on in its own way.
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[QUOTE=Diceman]When you have a good close look there in soi 6, there are some gems there, I really like the slim, white skinned type, and I often find them there, I think the best thing about soi 6 is the girls attitude, they are up for anything, and I like the convenience of it, like a kid in a sweetshop, choose the girl, pay the 1000 and off you go upstairs, done and dusted. Can't beat that for value.[/QUOTE]Agree completely.
Hmm, let's see, it's 12.30pm now, bars should be opening soon... :)
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Headed up to Soi 6 this afternoon, arriving there about 4pm, intending to meet up with girl B since I had missed her last night. I wasn't really annoyed that she hadn't waited for me, as I understand that a customer in the hand is worth two on the way, or something. I didn't expect her to be cross with me, saying I should have waited for her to finish with her other customer... :( .
Frankly, the girls' hygiene is so good that I am not bothered about previous customers, but I do prefer to be the first of the day, and I do believe that ignorance is bliss. So I wouldn't want to see a girl to walk down the stairs with one customer straight into my arms...
Anyway, it turned out that B hadn't had a customer that day, so that kind of made my mind up. Moreover J was out at the salon having her hair done, so she wouldn't be offended by me seeing her colleague. After we had established that I wasn't a bad man we went upstairs to renew our acquaintance. Interestingly, it emerged that B and J are 'sisters', as in good friends, so I did jokingly suggest that it might be fun to go with 2 girls. B was not up for it. :(
Afterwards, coming out of the bar I bumped into J and she was pleased to see me. She had been to the salon and messed up her lovely hair! We chatted and J showed me a photo on her phone of her and B together, again saying they were 'sisters'. 'Like family'. And this time it was her that suggested a threesome next night. Hmmm...
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All it takes is one idiot!!!!
One Brit goes on a shooting rampage and they blame it on his trips to Pattaya!!
[url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3010965/Sun-investigates-Thai-sex-resort-visited-by-Derrick-Bird.html[/url]
One thing the author got wrong, the Classroom is NOT a strip club.
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[QUOTE=Big Daddy 1906]One Brit goes on a shooting rampage and they blame it on his trips to Pattaya!!
[url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3010965/Sun-investigates-Thai-sex-resort-visited-by-Derrick-Bird.html[/url]
One thing the author got wrong, the Classroom is NOT a strip club.[/QUOTE]
"This is Pattaya in Thailand - home to 50,000 prostitutes"
I think that number is a bit inflated. What you guys think?
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[QUOTE=Big Daddy 1906]One Brit goes on a shooting rampage and they blame it on his trips to Pattaya!!,..[/QUOTE]
... Not to mention the undisputable fact that the Pattaya sex scene was the direct cause of the Gulf oil spill, Joran Van der Sloot's murderous rampages, and the 9/11 terror attack at the Pentagon and World Trade Center in NY City ... gratutious sex with young girls is responsible for ALL the evil in the world ...
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Soi 6 price
Price should be 500-800 baht. They ask 1000, but will except less.
[QUOTE=Diceman]When you have a good close look there in soi 6, there are some gems there, I really like the slim, white skinned type, and I often find them there, I think the best thing about soi 6 is the girls attitude, they are up for anything, and I like the convenience of it, like a kid in a sweetshop, choose the girl, pay the 1000 and off you go upstairs, done and dusted. Can't beat that for value.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]... Not to mention the undisputable fact that the Pattaya sex scene was the direct cause of the Gulf oil spill, Joran Van der Sloot's murderous rampages, and the 9/11 terror attack at the Pentagon and World Trade Center in NY City ... gratutious sex with young girls is responsible for ALL the evil in the world ...[/QUOTE]
Hey, you forgot the fact that the minute some of the Pattaya girls stopped paying the mortgage of their mansions in Isan, Chang Mei and Udan Thani, the global recession started!
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That's abit of free publicity for Patts i think. Some people reading that would be saying "bloody perverts",(mostly fat cows i think). While alot of other people would be saying," god blind me, i heard all the stories,but never believed it, better book the next flight there!".( mostly all the fat basterds like me who don't get enough at home).
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[QUOTE=Big Daddy 1906]
One thing the author got wrong, the Classroom is NOT a strip club.[/QUOTE]
One of many. It reads as if a journalist sat in his London office has done a little online research before penning this shit. How many guys has had a girl coo at him and 'I want to be your girlfriend' sounds a bit contrived. 'I wanna go with you' or 'Hello, hansum man' is more realistic:).
And, wow, 40% of the girls HIV-positive!!
Of course, tabloids the world over seldom allow the truth get in the way of a good story. The Sun is renowned for printing this sort of salacious, self righteous crap in between the page three pin-ups and ads for sex chat lines.
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super find there Mr E!!!
[QUOTE=Mr Enforcer]I was there last week and most girls in the Go-gos that I went to wereose. Great natural tits and a good fuck as well, she used to work in Dennis the Menace bar in Soi recently before moving to Nui's[/QUOTE]
i would have had to give her more money for such a beautiful girl great great find,.... more pics please
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Page 3 girls
Sun is in Pattaya, They might get a few page 3 girls from here.
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The Chosen One is Blown Away at Soi 6
this is a story of a trip to soi 6 from saturday. my next report will be my attempt to find solace with a beach road girl.
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i opened my eyes this morning and i knew i was the chosen one. i brushed my teeth and i felt all the bacteria evacuate my mouth. i went down for breakfast and as i entered, my double espresso was already being drawn by a cute smiling waitress. my motocy to the bts this morning didn't have the 5baht change for a 20b note, so he gave me a 10b coin back. the bts was empty and i got a seat all the way to mo chit. my taxi driver on the other end was an old guy who was super amazed by my ability to pronounce khwaa and sai. he ended our trip by telling me that some would consider me suuey, but he thinks i am laaw. hmm, i get that a lot.
at work, i was being peppered with smiles and sneaky glances by all the office girls, more so than normal. the princess of the office, the girl every guy secretly dreams of drugging and having their way with (since no one thinks they could handle her attitude while awake) came over to me, squeezed my bicep, and said 'i'm glad you are here in thailand, wont you come back soon?' i thought to myself, “bend over baby, and give me a reason to come back.”
work ended early, as the chosen one had to make his way to pattaya this evening. i went straight to the emporium for a late lunch / early dinner. the thick crowd at phrom phong bts station seemed to part before me as i strode into the mall without having to weave and dodge like other mortals. my piripiri chicken arrived in record time, done to perfection, washed down with a frigid coke zero. i skipped (literally, since when you are the chosen one, you can skip through a crowded mall) over to starbucks, and i asked for a short triple americano to go, expecting the regular, hassle of 'you want extra shot? no? two extra? so two total? no? what? me no understand'. this time, the barista rang it up without so much as a peep other than 'kaa', and she charged me the correct amount.
i sauntered out, and as i left i bumped into a pretty young hiso girl, who looked at me with neither the usual disinterest nor the common disdain, but with large, gleaming interested eyes. i took the bts to ekkamai, and bought my two seats to pattaya, and i was assigned seats in the first row. expecting this to mean a 30 minute wait, i was surprised to learn that they had added an extra bus at this busy time, so i waited 4 minutes and 30 seconds. approximately.
no traffic on the way down despite it being a saturday, no detours into the boonies to drop people off at their grandma's house. we arrived promptly at 6:45pm. grabbed a motocy, who agreed immediately to my price, and we whizzed off. upon arrival at the nova platinum, i was checked in by mr. burns. this is a guy who is the spitting image of the simpsons character – he has the rounded posture, the craggy nose, and that lecherous way about him. when i paid him for the night, i fully expected him to say 'eegsellent.'
shower, shave, and kumbu, knowing he is the chosen one, decides to put mouse1's reports to the test. i had been to soi 6 once before, a friend took me, an old timer here in pattaya. he showed me the ropes, although i did not see anything that really fancied me that night. my impression of soi 6 was that it was a giant mess of an ant-hill with women and bars and customers all scrambled together into a crazy visual feast. i remember being extremely intimidated by the sheer volume of women and the social interaction that was required was a little much for your shy kumbu. but today, kumbu is not going to soi 6 – the chosen one is.
i entered on the 2nd rd. side. my breathing quickened as i saw the throngs of eyes watching me approach. i wasn't sure if this was the gazelles watching as the leopard approaches, or hyenas watching as the solitary unknowing gazelle approaches. the last time i came here (which was last june), when i walked down the street with my friend, about half the girls were immediately *not* interested. i chalked this up to my general look. my appearance works for some people, not others, and i am sure this is the case for all guys. some girls like the golden oldies, some like contemporary rockers, some like ethnic tunes – very few of us can be expected to be a universal taste. but this time, as soon as i got off the baht bus, all eyes were on me. i attributed this to the celestial light shining down upon me indicating my status, but in retrospect, it may have been the dearth of customers due to south korea playing greece at that time. and so i was the first wallet to walk along in several hours...naah, i think they knew my special status today and they wished to be part of human history by coupling with the chosen one.
i started on the right hand side, looking over the girls, trying my best to avoid lingered eye contact for too long. nothing struck me. a couple of girls gently approached me, each grabbing the crook of my arm and saying sweet nothings to me like 'hansummmm maaaan' and 'laaaw'. oh do go on.
but i shed myself of these superficial pleasures and wandered in search of deeper beauty. i glanced over to the left side of the soi very briefly, but the visual assortment was too much for me to process at that time. i decided i would have to come back. i went over to the next place, and there were fewer girls here sitting outside, and they were less interested in me. perhaps these heathen girls had not received the memo of my chosen status today. well.
i walked on, and slowly made my way down the soi, focusing on the girls on the right hand side. as i did this, i caught a glimpse of some very sexy faces. but hell, that ain't gonna cut it today. i was looking for something to satiate the most urgent and intense of physical and spiritual needs, and a cute face was not what was called for. i also saw some big boobs, but i'd had my fill of mammary meat earlier this week. down the course of the soi, i saw two pretty little things that suited my tastes. just to be clear, this was two choices out of perhaps 200 women in that stretch of soi 6. the first girl was wearing a red apron-like uniform. it was not very flattering attire, but her attributes shone through nonetheless. she was sitting in the middle of a pack of rabid teenage girls, although she seemed a little too old to be amongst them. the second girl was wearing a one piece blue miniskirt. yummy. as i walked past her, girls screaming from all direction, we made eye contact, and it was electrifying. she was definitely worth another look later on.
i got to the end, did the u-turn and repeated down the other side of the soi, seeing one potential that i ranked third amongst the now-three candidates for the chosen one's affections tonight. having picked out my candidates, i had to decide who to go to first. given my propensity to be a total push-over, it was likely that the first girl i approach would be the one to suckle from the font of kumbu tonight. so which one is it, oh chosen one? do you pick the red pill or the blue pill?
i was at the top of soi 6, so i decided to go to the nearest girl – the red pill. as i approached, catcalls began to ring out around the soi. the girls from that establishment all pepped up, sensing the impending financial transfer. several girls were jockeying for position, including the girl i wanted to chat with. they were lining up, pushing and jostling, trying to be the first to speak with me. i made eye contact with her, and tried to keep it through the frenzy of pushing and shoving. a hefty, strong-armed light-skinned girl pushed my target out of the way and stood between her and me. she greeted me, apparently unaware that the chosen one cannot be spoken to until he speaks. i nodded in her direction, acknowledging her efforts, and then muscled my way past her to stand face-to-face with pretty legs herself. she smiled coyly at me, her head cocked shyly to the left as she subconsciously licked the side of her mouth. her hands were fidgeting, and she greeted me in thai. i respond with a deep-voiced 'hello.'
pretty legs: where you come from?
kumbu: wow, right to the heart of the matter, huh?
pretty legs: ...
pretty legs: where you come from?
kumbu: america.
her legs nearly buckled at the sweet sound of lady liberty.
pretty legs: what your name?
kumbu: the chosen one.
pretty legs: zishoo...zishoozin...
she looks at her friend who was eagerly listening in and says 'arai na?', receiving a completely puzzled look. ok, stop fucking with her kumbu and get serious.
kumbu: <name>
pretty legs: oooooh, <name>.
kumbu: you?
pretty legs: nok
kumbu: ah.
pretty legs: you want drink?
kumbu: no, not just yet, thanks.
as all that was happening, i was trying to surreptitiously assess the state of her legs, ass, waist, breasts, hygiene, age, lip-dimensions, breath quality, and moral character. legs were the genuine article – strong, shapely, and very thai-like. her ass seemed more than skin and bone, although i could not be sure just yet as she wasn't really looking the other way at all. her breasts seemed minimal, which is fine with me. i noticed that her face was a little older than i expected – she showed some signs of wear and tear, but she looked to be in her late-twenties. as luck (or fate) would have it, she asks me:
pretty legs: how old you?
kumbu: how old you think?
pretty legs: (pauses, fakely assessing my age, as she clearly had figured me out a long time ago) i think 29.
kumbu: hah, thank you (fake gratitude), no, i'm older.
pretty legs: how old you?
kumbu: 38.
pretty legs: ahhhhhhh? i no believe!
kumbu: suuuure (homphonous with the thai word for believe, i believe). how old are you?
pretty legs: how old you think?
kumbu: (fake assessment, really trying to figure how low to low-ball without it seeming insincere) i think you are 22.
pretty legs: hah, thank you (fake gratitude), no, i older.
kumbu: how old?
pretty legs: 25.
kumbu: (to himself: “yeah right, try 29 darling”).
we talk about a couple of other things like 'how long you stay pattaya?', during which i notice something quite off-putting: her fingers. she had those short, stubby fingernails - i mean they were tiny. they were not the chewed kind you find on goth teenagers in america, but they were just naturally tiny. kumbu no likey. but will that be enough to scuttle the deal? how petty is kumbu, i wonder.
we get down to brass tacks. i ask her how much, and she asks what i want. i say short time, and she pauses and says 2000baht. i ask if that includes room and bar fine, and she says no. hmm, that's her opening bid? with those fingers?? she has some nerve. how could she deign to speak to the chosen one like that?
i say thank you and begin walking away when she says 'ok, how much you want pay?' and i reply 'thank you' and off i go. the birds perched so high are not worth the shot. especially the fingernail-challenged birds.
i walked down 30m to the next girl that i had identified, the one in the blue miniskirt, and there too the jostling began. they had obviously been watching what had transpired with the previous girl, so they now knew that i wasn't going to just drop my cash and fuck. so i manage to wade through the flinging arms and poking fingers to the girl of my choice. she had definitely seen me on my first walk down the soi, and our eye contact had been special to be sure, so i was expecting positives from her.
when i approached, i saw her sizing me up. she stood there looking up at me with wide-open eyes, wondering what my deal was. i said to her, “hello”, and she whispered a response, presumably 'sawat dii kaa.'
kumbu: how are you?
demure girl: good kaa.
kumbu: what's your name?
demure girl: noi. what your name?
kumbu: <name>
demure girl: where you come from?
kumbu: america
demure girl: mmmm
she smiles, i see the weakness in her legs, and i see the first glimpse of naughty in her eye. so we do the usual dance of questions, and i must say she was getting my motor running. she was taller than the other girl; she looked around 22; her legs were larger and curvier than the previous girl, and i could see her ass was substantial. all these are positives in old kumbu's book. her skin was one hue darker than the previous girl, but still a very light brown, the color of coffee that has been too heavily milked. her breasts seemed non-existent, and her face was very, very cute. she had large, almond shaped eyes, in which the pupil seemed oversized – very dark and intense. but she kept looking down in a demure, shy way, which was driving me nuts! but the clincher for me was her hips. as she moved this way and that, i was able to discern a set of wide yet thin hips. it's a little hard to describe, but they were disproportionately wide and flat; it was almost like her body was the shape of a palm-leaf fan, thin and wide. remarkable. i just had to see this girl without any clothes on, and i hoped we could seal the deal in a reasonable amount of time.
as if reading my mind, she holds out her hand and keeps it there, waiting for me to make my decision. she just stood there, with a smile on her face, offering her hand. i looked at her face, trying to assess the hidden nature of the girl, and all i saw was pleasantness. i looked at her arm as it stretched out, long, slender, toned. i saw the fingers, with long, perfectly manicured nails without any polish but curved at the edges and well-buffed. now this was a hand worthy of the chosen one.
and so it was, my friends, that the chosen one selected his mate for the evening.
we go into the bar and she asks me what i want to drink. i say coke light, expecting the normal mocking and derision. instead, she cocks her head to one side, smiles. then she says “and for me?”, and so i nod. she returns with two coke lights, we sip and chat for 10 minutes, with her sitting on my lap. my hands were, at first, very respectful – no groping, no touching, nothing. i was super disciplined, as i always am, and i wanted to show her that i was one who knew what he wanted. this discipline lasted a really, really long time - perhaps a full 30 seconds. she was sitting on my lap, her butt to the left and her legs falling down the right side of my legs. once the 30 second moratorium was over, my left hand moved slowly down her back to the top of her ass, where i felt the beginning of the rise of the ass flesh. the little chosen one (lco) twinged. my right hand, however, is the one that got all the fun. i placed it initially on her bare knee. soft, sexy skin, oooh, i felt a sudden jolt of adrenaline. over the next 2-3 minutes my hand moved around the knee area, circling, squeezing and gently pinching, assessing the fat-to-muscle ratio of the leg area. and the ratio was to my liking.
my hand then moved to the inside of her knee and began to caress it. my erection was raging at this point, and she knew it. she was coyly shifting her ass around from this side of my erection to the other, knowing exactly what she was doing. my hand slowly moved upwards into genuine thigh flesh, and here was where i decided the girl had to be mine today.
eventually she asks me if i want to go up with her. i asked how much, and she said 1500, including bf. i asked about room, and she said that was 300 more. so i said how about 1700 for everything, and she agreed.
we climb the dodgy stairs with her in front of me. my ass was nigh into her ass crack as we did this, and i was delighted at that concept. we get into the room, which was small, dark, and not particularly pleasant. i wondered how many trillions of sperm had met their fate in this room, and i shuddered at the thought of how many trillions of sperm were still in this room somewhere. me shower, she shower, and we end up toweled on the bed. we continue chatting for a few minutes, and then she takes the initiative. she pulls my towel off and her eyes bulge at the sight of lco. she puts her hand to her mouth and whispers something, and i say 'you scared?' and she says 'it kill me', to which i respond, 'that's the plan.'
she started kissing my nipples, which are a little sensitive, so i pushed her off after a few moments of this. she then worked her way down to my dick and asked if she could eat. i smiled.
she started at the base of the little chosen one, where the shaft meets the belly, and she peppered the base with small pecking kisses, working her way around to the underside, the spot between the balls and the shaft. there she did her first serious wet kiss. she engulfed the base of lco with her mouth and did a swirl action with her tongue. yowza, never had that before. then, rather than going north up the shaft, she went south, to the balls. she kissed the left ball all over, then the right ball, and eventually found her way back to the base of the shaft.
she pulls back a little, and here's where it got interesting. she slipped one hand under me and lifted my ass slightly off the bed. with her other hand, she lifted the balls up, and her head suddenly darted down to the spot between my balls and asshole. her tongue squashed wetly into that area, and then swirled for a good 7-10 seconds. the chosen one gasped his appreciation. this was not quite rimming, but it was downright naughty of her, i must say. she then went back to the balls and started to suck one ball, then the other. often, when someone sucks my balls, they do it with too much vigor and it hurts slightly. this girl had the touch – she sucked the chosen one's balls with the dedication, delicacy, and care they deserve.
after what seemed like an eternity of ball sucking, she moved up again to the base of lco and again sucked the base with that little twirling action of her tongue. then the tongue action shifted into a flitting action – quick short flits to the skin, and she started to move upward towards the head. as she moved up, her head was circling slightly, so i was getting this rapid-fire flitting action slowly moving northwards along the shaft, but doing so in a gradually ascending circular motion. this was poetry in motion, no doubt about it. she knew her art and was exhibiting it here for the chosen one. it was as if her entire life of blow-jobbing had lead to this culminating experience, and if she had learned anything over the previous many years of service, this was her time to shine.
after an agonizing stretch of time as the flitting ascended, she gets to the sweet spot – that area just beneath the head on the underside of the penis. her flitting circles *around* this area, without ever actually touching it, and begins to circle the head of the little chosen one. she moves to the top side, and around the other side to the underside, once again avoiding the sweet spot. she did this three times, driving the chosen one in-sane! by this time, lco was engorged, taking on both the color and shape of an eggplant.
she finally finishes the circling, and then she opens her mouth wide and goes straight into a deep throat. she got maybe 80% of lco in before it hit the back of her throat, and to my surprise, she pushed a little more. she may have gagged a little at this point, but i was in such euphoria i did not notice. she then went back up, and dropped down again, and repeated a few more glorious times. this was a spectacular experience.
once this was over, she pulled out, lco covered with saliva, and she moves to the sweet spot. she alternates between a suckling action and that superb twirling thing she does with her tongue, a combination i highly recommend, if you can get it. she did this for a while, and i felt the urge arise in me, so i pulled back a little. i will be damned if i am going to blow my one-pop wad on a bbbj, phenomenal as this may be. i needed to see this girl naked, and i needed to get my hands on those hips, ass and legs.
so i pull back, and she says 'ok mai?' i say 'mmmphphph, yah.' her towel has come off in the process of pleasuring lco, so i take the opportunity to look. she responds by getting to her knees and shifting towards me. i grab her by the waist and go straight into her smallish breasts. they are small and nondescript, but her nipples are large and perky. i kiss and suckle them for a moment or two before i move down to her belly – tight as a freshly laundered bed sheet on 5-star hotel bed. i kiss and prod and poke, and slowly move diagonally down to her hip. i kiss the hip, inspecting the spectacular curvature. they are indeed wide, sexy hips. you don't usually find thai girls with such wide hips, and so i was particularly pleased.
i turned her around with some effort (she resisted showing me her ass), but i finally managed to get an unfettered look at it. it was indeed large and hefty, as i suspected. but the flaw was that she had those two patches of dry skin where she always sits – at the base of the ass near where the ass meets the thigh. many girls have these two patches – it's quite common. but she was aware of them and a little self conscious about it. i didn't care about them, i kissed her ass all over (she squirmed somewhat, as she was ticklish, but the chosen one was not to be denied).
i think daty would have been on offer, but i was not really in the mood for that. a soi 6 girl is high traffic, more so than a gogo girl. i know there is not that much of a difference, but still, i felt a little queasy at the thought.
so she pulls out the condom – some local doohickey, and she slaps it on. she lies back and spreads her legs and in goes the chosen one. let's just say the sex was your normal fare – multiple positions, she was reasonably tight, but not super tight. she responded well to me, but i don't think she came at all. at one point, she was on her back and i was pumping away, and i noticed that my balls were rubbing against the bed as i went in and out. i wondered how many other balls had rubbed in that exact same spot. i changed position immediately. we ended, of course, about 60 seconds after switching into doggie, as is my custom.
as the orgasm approached, i considered pulling out to try to save the experience a little more. i wanted to kiss and caress her legs still, but i had been too impatient to get the lco into her. but i was so full of hormones and so ready to burst that i decided i was going to enjoy the orgasm and just let 'er rip. so i grabbed her two wide hips and started to pump like i was having an epileptic fit. my fingers started to creep towards her crack and i eased the butt cheeks open for a little looksie, and as i caught sight of the cute little winker, i crested the hill and it was all downhill from there.
the orgasm was bitter sweet. relief, pleasure, stress-release, and satisfaction swelled over me, and i took in gulps of air and tried to slow my heartbeat. but at the same time, as the ejaculate left me, as the pleasure waned, i felt the delusion leave me too. i slowly and painfully came the the realization that i am no longer the chosen one. i may never have been.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]. How many guys has had a girl coo at him and 'I want to be your girlfriend' sounds a bit contrived.[/QUOTE]All mine do Sir Cunning. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]i would have had to give her more money for such a beautiful girl great great find,.... more pics please[/QUOTE]Hummer,
I tried to give her more money but she didn't want it!!!!I tried to put money in her bag and she gave it back to me!
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt]One of many. It reads as if a journalist sat in his London office has done a little online research before penning this shit. How many guys has had a girl coo at him and 'I want to be your girlfriend' sounds a bit contrived. 'I wanna go with you' or 'Hello, hansum man' is more realistic:).
And, wow, 40% of the girls HIV-positive!!
Of course, tabloids the world over seldom allow the truth get in the way of a good story. The Sun is renowned for printing this sort of salacious, self righteous crap in between the page three pin-ups and ads for sex chat lines.[/QUOTE]
I wonder how they got a clear shot inside Classroom. Willie doesn't play that crap and would have beaten the crap out of the photographer had he found out. I'm also surprised that they didn't blur out the guys sitting in the club.
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[QUOTE=Belmont]Price should be 500-800 baht. They ask 1000, but will except less.[/QUOTE]The price for ladies on Beach Road was 500-600 baht for S/T last month, with some good selections to be had. I pulled girls as early as 7am (morning wood hunters departing their LT dates) and as late as 1am. The selection was hit and miss to be sure. A horrid selection would give way to a decent selections a few hours later.
SunLover
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The chosen one..
[QUOTE=Kumbu]This is a story of a trip to soi 6 from Saturday. My next report will be my attempt to find solace with a beach road girl.
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You have quite a gift for writing, Kumbo....Thanks SO much for sharing. Best reports I've ever read.
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Central pattaya swimming lessons
After my near drowning in an Australian river, I am learning how to swim? Due to work commitment I find it hard to go for lessons. I am wondering if anyone knows a place close enough to Central Pattaya where they offer swimming lessons. Would be nice to learn something along side main aim.
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enforcer's find at nui's
[QUOTE=Mr Enforcer]Hummer,
I tried to give her more money but she didn't want it!!!!I tried to put money in her bag and she gave it back to me![/QUOTE]Enforcer,
Great find! What a cutie and definitely my type by any chance have her numbers? I may b in LOS end of month and wd love to take her. Please pm me incase you can share her number.
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The Rigors of Beach Road
I leave soi 6 on to Beach Rd., staggering somewhat, having just had a magnificent BBBJ which totally robbed me of my Chosen status. I was now no longer The Chosen One, but a mere mortal like all of you poor souls. How would I cope?
The plan was straightforward: get some food and coffee, troll Beach Rd. for something different and be done by 1am in time to watch England be humiliated by the Yanks. I was hoping to make it down to a pub on soi 7 where there was some indication that other ISG members might be.
I walked up beach road (it was now 9pm or so) all the way up to Central, meandering through the gaggles of women and customers. There were a lot of people on that side, slowly thinning out as we got closer to Central. But even right across from Central, there were still plenty of girls. It was dark and a little hard to see, and I was hungry and caffeine-deprived, so I didn't pay too much attention on the way up.
Got some noodles and my regular triple Americano, and I was busting outta there. By now it was the middle of the Argentina-Nigeria game, and the streets were filled mostly with hungry women. I walked onto Beach Rd. and started my inspection. I walked slowly, fighting the discomfort of being ogled by people I could not see, and trying my best to identify my next victim.
I have mentioned this before, but I am not really a beach rd kind of guy. I find the pressure a little too hard to deal with, and I find the talent on display a little too hard to assess given the amount of time I have. I am a little socially awkward in that I find it hard to turn the girls down. I will definitely do it, but I don't really enjoy it. So I try to avoid the social contact until I am fairly sure that there will not be any social rejection, on anyone's part.
As I walked down, the first thing I was aware of was that there was a large proportion of girls who were not girls. And I mean this in two senses. First, there were plenty of lady boys. I have nothing (zero) against lady boys. They are human beings with sexuality that is of the human condition, and I am more than pleased that they are in a society that is so tolerant of the way they are. Unlike my society which calls them an abomination to nature. I find Jerry Faldwell a greater abomination to nature than any gay guy I have ever met or heard about. Hitler was not gay, nor was Pol Pot. The Crusades were not waged by flaming warriors, although they were catholic, so...I'm not gay, I have absolutely no interest in mingling with other dinglings, but to each his own.
I say this because of all the people on beach rd., the lady boys are by far the most aggressive. Or perhaps that is only with me? I do know that I have a certain feminine charm about me, so perhaps they are aggressive with guys who look like me. Don't know, but I had to fend off lady boy after lady boy – perhaps five in all. It's funny, I fear having to reject a girl, but I don't fear rejecting the lady boys at all. Perhaps because they are so aggressive and forthright.
Examples of their aggression are things like one LB came up to me and did the obligatory 'Hello, where you go?” as she put her arm in the crook of mine. My answer is always 'no where' and the standard rote response is 'I go wijoo?' to which I respond 'no thanks.' And then she says 'I take care you.' and I say 'no thanks,' and the next line is either something about boom-boom, or the universal symbol of the BJ, which is the hand held in the shape of holding the shaft of the penis, thrust repeatedly into the mouth, with the tongue poking out the cheek as the imaginary penis enters the mouth. Crude but effective.
Anyway, I manage to shed myself of this unwanted attention with no problem, although they are a little bit of a nuisance. So the lady boys are not girls, and they make up maybe 10% (maybe a little less?) of workers on beach rd. The other set of workers who are not girls are the women. There are a lot of older women here, and by older I mean older than age 33 or 34. I saw many women who looked to be in their 40s, easily. I'm not sure if they are working or if they are supervising the younger gals, but either way it was a little off-putting.
Let me say a few words about the kinds of girls (real girls, that is) that are at beach rd. There is a lot of variety, to be sure. They are of all different ages, of all different skin colors, and of all different body shapes. One thing I discovered about the girls, however, is that they are really good at dressing. That is, they are not only stylish, but also strategic. If a girl is wearing jeans and a skin-tight halter top, in all likelihood her boobs are her best asset and her legs are not worth looking at. If they were worth it, you can be damned sure she would be wearing a miniskirt. Similarly, if the girl is wearing a mini skirt showing off some sexy yams, and a frilly, fluffy white blouse, in all likelihood she is breast-less.
Beware the push-up bra, as this is the one thing that can catch you out. I'm pretty good and recognizing it, but others may not be.
You can't really fake an ass if you don't have one, or sexy legs, if you have chicken legfs. Although a girl could hide the ass/legs completely and let your imagination insert the perfect body part where one does not exist. So I was on the hunt for someone with all the right body dimensions, and whose body dimensions could be empirically verified. None of this 'her legs are sexy, so her ass must be too' bullshit.
I walked the length of beach rd. from Central all the way down to WS and did not see a single girl that caught my fancy. There must have been at least 100 girls out there (excluding LB and older women), and so I was considering calling it a night. I had had my chain yanked for the night, and I was good, but I was kinda hoping to do the double tonight – a rarity for Kumbu, to be sure.
So before I gave up, I decided to walk back up beach rd. and then maybe find a quiet spot to sit and ponder the mysteries of the universe. I would then walk over to the pub and have drink while watching the game. So I walked up, and this time there were more girls to see. Girls I had not seen on the first walk down, I'm not sure why. Furthermore, it was really hard to find a place to sit since all the places were taken by either girls or guys in my same predicament. I managed to get a spot back up around soi 12 or so, and I sat down and took a breath. I was sitting on the beach side of the sidewalk facing the walkway and the traffic beyond that.
There were six or seven girls off to my right, and a line of four or five girls off to my left. I watched as customers walked past, and girls eyed them and chatted amongst themselves about the guy. I sat there perhaps 5 minutes before an Indian guy walks along. He is dressed in a navy blue polo shirt, striped shorts and Birkenstocks. He has dark skin, two-day old stubble on his face, but is a somewhat decent looking guy. He starts chatting up this girl in English, and she is very chatty with him. She starts to apply the pressure, and he resists. I am eagerly listening, trying to see how he manages the situation, I mean, the precise verbal strategy that he uses in fending off her approach.
Girl: I go wijoo?
Indian Guy: No, I don't think so.
Girl: Why? You no like me?
Indian Guy: Oh I like you, but it's too early.
Girl: Noooo, not earlIIII, must make boom boom and then watch world cup.
Indian Guy: Ah, yes, but it's still too early.
And then the Indian Guy sees me through the corner of his eye watching avidly, and a small smile creeps onto the side of his mouth. He then raises his voice slightly, perhaps so I could hear better, and he says 'I never take a woman from Beach Rd. before 1am.' As he finishes his sentence, he looks directly at me and gives me a little nod, as if to say, 'there you go grasshopper, that's your piece of wisdom for the day.'
The girl does not like this, and objects strenuously. To which Indian Guy says, again in a raised voice, something to the effect of how before 1am, the girls think their pussy is worth more than his money. But after 1am, they realize Indian money is the same as falang money, and all they want is the money for the night. A man of true wisdom...who knows, perhaps he is a member of this forum?
Indian Guy walks off, leaving the girl in a tizzy, but I'm sure she got over it. I sat there another 20 minutes or so before I got tired. I saw nothing particularly interesting, so I decided to walk up to Central, and if I did not see anything good, I would baht-bus it back down to soi 7. I get all the way to Central, and still nothing of interest to me, so I found another spot to sit at and took a breather.
At this point, it must have been 11:30, and the road was bustling. The Argentina game had ended, so guys were more plentiful now. But still, the women far outnumbered the guys, by perhaps 3-to-1. A little bit down the ledge where I was sitting, I noticed a cute girl sitting there with her friend. She's sitting so I can't really see what her body is like, but she seems fit and trim. She's wearing jeans, so she obviously does not have pretty legs, and she's wearing a regular blouse, so I figure she does not have boobs either. So why am I looking at her?
She notices the gentle persuasion of Kumbu's glances, and the courtship begins. We do a little bit of eye darting, and then the coy smiles begin, and then she takes the initiative and shouts out across the gap between us 'where you from?'
So the conversation began. We were a full 6-7 meters apart, and so conversation was hard, but I was not going to move closer to her. If she wanted it, she needed to move that ass and let me take a look at its dimensions. But she resisted. We held the conversation for at least 5 minutes before there was a lull, and still, she did not move. Damn it.
Finally, she grabs her little purse (containing condoms, lube and cash no doubt), pats her friend's hand a little and gets up to walk over to me. As she stood up, her jeans bulged significantly in the right regions, and Kumbu was smitten.
Her name was Pum. Coincidentally, the last time I took someone from beach rd, perhaps a year ago, her name was also Pum. But this was a different Pum. She was 26years old, one child, from Udon Thani, husband died in a car crash (I'm hearing this story a lot these days, more so than any other story), been in Pattaya 4 months, likes Beach rd because it gives her flexibility. She works as a waitress at a restaurant in Pattaya, one that caters to locals apparently, and she beach roads to make extra cash to send home. You know, the regular story.
So five minutes after she walks over to me, she drops the question: so what you want? I say “short time, I want to be finished by 1am, daay may?” and she says in that delightful Thai way, “Daaaaaaay”.
I ask her how much, and she looks at me and says 500B. Straight up, no haggling, nothing. Rock and roll.
We get up and she holds out her hand to me, and as soon as I grab her hand, girls from the depths of the shadows along beach road start to hoot and holler. I hate to say this, but it reminded me of chimpanzees calling from the shadows of a forest – not the girls, but the hooting and yelping.
We jump on a baht bus, and she sits across from me on the way down. Excellent – it gives me the opportunity to inspect her in the neon lights of beach rd as the bus meanders southwards. She looks a little younger than 26, long straight hair, small nose, wide mouth, lots of teeth, perhaps too many. Her eyes are large and lustrous, and her skin has an odd red tinge to it. It reminded me of the color of the rugged hills in Wyoming – reddish brown. Her proportions were all correct, but I was wondering just why she was so covered up – why was she not flashing her flesh? What terrible surprise awaited me in my hotel room?
You may wonder why I took the gamble. I said earlier that I wanted empirically verifiable dimensions, right? Well, there was just something about her. We had a chemistry; she had a softness about her; she was not particularly pushy nor standoffish; and she looked at me with interest and intellect. I can't really say any more than that other than I had a feeling that we would have a good time. Ah Kumbu, always the romantic.
We get into the hotel and as I unlock the hotel door she squirms past me and giggles her way into the hotel. She drops her purse on the counter, kicks off her shoes and immediately pulls out the weighing scale and weighs herself. As she does this, I get my first, full-light, unhampered view of the woman. She looks to be around 5'3” tall, weighing exactly 46.2kg, long slender fingers, and beautiful hair.
Ok, we sit and talk for a few minutes, until she says 'shower dii kwaa.' And she specifies that the shower will be solitary, which is ok with me. So we shower, and we end up on the bed in towels. I chat with her, and slowly place my hands onto the towel. I move my hands up and down the towel, never touching her skin, nor making an effort to remove the towel. I am actually gauging the quality of the flesh beneath. And she feels firm, I must say.
My hand travels around to her butt and gives it a gently, inquisitive squeeze, and I like what I feel. So things are looking up, in more ways than one. As we sit there, me stroking her, I am watching her face and expression, and she seems to have retracted within herself. That is, the chemistry we had on beach road seems to have dissipated, and she seems to be more reserved, a little nervous. So it took me a long time to eventually get that towel off of her. I could have just yanked it off – such is the nature of what we do: when you pay, it gives you the right to do certain things. But such behavior usually has consequences, and so I wanted to gently pry her open.
I move down her body to her legs, which are impeccably shaped – I mean superb legs. But they were not shaved, hence the jeans. Ah, I thought she was hiding a skinny ass and chicken legs with the jeans. Turns out the ass is gorgeous and the legs are proper – she's just lazy is all. But I stroked and squeezed to my heart's delight for a few minutes. One thing I noticed was her feet. They had the slenderest of ankles, which opened up to the widest of feet. It was like her feet were equilateral triangles – wedge shaped duck feet. It was quite amusing. Her toes were spread wide apart, revealing her farmgirl origins. But she was extremely proud of that fact. She began to lecture me on the importance of toes that split apart – apparently they are an indication that you regularly clean between the toes. If there is no space between your toes, according to Ms. Toe-Hygiene-Expert here, it means you do not clean properly between your toes. She demanded to see my feet, and as I showed them to her, I did my best to spread my toes as wide as I could. She saw this and giggled.
So we eventually went back to the body stroking, and I started to work the towel off her body. As the towel begins to drop, she starts to get a little more agitated. She asks that I turn out the lights, but I object saying that I want to see all of her beauty. She eventually agrees, and I finally get the towel completely off her. And there she lay, in all her splendor, naked from top to bottom, lying face down revealing her awesome, awesome ass. Holy cow, it was a robust ass if ever there was one. What is it with my luck these days? I seem to be finding all the big-assed girls on this trip, and I hope my luck lasts just a little longer.
So I stroke her body, slowly, gently, and we continue to talk. I squash and squeeze her ass cheeks, and I am very, very pleased with my selection at this point. After 5 minutes or so of this, little Kumbu was beginning to complain, and so it was time to move things along a little. I try to turn her over, but she objects mildly. I try again, and eventually she concedes.
And then I see why she wanted the lights dimmed. She has a pretty bad case of stretch marks on her belly. Furthermore, she has a c-section scar which is quite obvious. Not particularly attractive, but I've seen worse. No matter, I will just have to fuck her from the back, where all I can see is the ass, right?
She whimpers at the revelation, and I try to console her, and in so doing, I gently kiss the scar and the stretch marks. Upon seeing this, she breaks down and starts to cry.
And cry.
And cry.
And when the crying stopped, the sobbing began.
And as this continues, little Kumbu goes from being a stallion, to a pony, to a foul, to a pathetic turtle.
I'm not sure precisely what the crying/sobbing was about. Was it that I kissed her where she didn't want to be kissed? No, I don't think so. It wasn't a cry that seemed outwardly oriented. Rather, I sensed she was depressed, and she didn't like how she looked, and the fact that it was so highlighted by my kiss just sent her off the edge.
I was tired. I was feeling a little irritated with having to deal with this. I was not a happy Kumbu – not my usual sensitive self. But the girl was genuinely morose, and I am not the kind to kick her out in this state, or to scold her. So I held her. And there we sat for the next 10 minutes, her whimpering in my arms, spilling tears onto my chest, sniffling and cringing. I tell you, that was the longest couple of hours (or so it felt) of my life.
So she finally bucks up and clears up her tears and realizes what a fucking mess she is. At this point I am imagining her getting dressed and leaving me to my solace. She gets up and runs to the bathroom, where she stays for another 6-7 minutes. I hear the occasional whimper, but she is cleaning herself up. She comes out and apologizes, and she asks me what I want. I say, nothing, time for her to leave. She apologizes again, and begs me to go through with it. She says she really wants to make me happy, me good man, me no bad man, me take care her, she want take care me.
It was a hard sell, I tell you. But just so you understand the insidiousness of the female nature, she suddenly turns the corner, and she becomes a total sex seductress. She starts to undulate her body (toweled at this point), shifting from left to right, and she starts to stroke my body, gently, sensually. And I am thinking 'what just happened? Who are you?'
And to give you a sense of the gullible male nature, I totally fell for it. One moment I was down in the dumps about my whimpering girl, and then all of a sudden I was turned on and ready to go. How pathetic. But that's me. So little kumbu is up and running again, beneath his towel, and she starts to rub the towel and little kumbu responds appropriately.
She then removes my towel to reveal the noisy vuvuzela (first reference on this thread, I believe), and she grins. She asks for condom, and I don't argue. Betrojaned, her towel comes off, and she gets onto all fours for us to start in doggie position. That's rare, but given the condition of her belly, it is understandable. So I sheepishly mount her – it still doesn't quite feel right, given her state just moments earlier. But as I insert, and take a look at those ass cheeks part slightly as I enter, it begins to feel right. A little while later she pulls away, then stands up and leans against the table and I enter her from behind while standing up. That was nice. I pounded for a while, and then she does something interesting. She steps backwards from the table, me still inside her, and she bends over. Her legs were straight, she was bent at the waist, her head on her knees, her hands grasping her ankles, and her back propped against the bed so she would not fall over as I fucked her. It was like fucking an ass sandwich, I don't know how else to describe it!
Never, ever done that position – it was awesome. I never even thought of such a thing, and I really appreciated her taking the effort to do this. I guess when you are a woman and you only have the back side of your body to work with, you are inventive in finding new ways to use the available real estate. So we did this for a few moments, and to my total shock, little kumbu succumbed. I think it was a combination of the visual brilliance of that position coupled with the unusual tightness that comes from being contorted like that which got little Kumbu so worked up.
So she manages to get out of her contortion and goes off to clean herself. I then shower, and when I get out, to my surprise, she was not dressed, but was lying on the bed. We talked for another 30 minutes, never once mentioning the breakdown, and then she dresses slowly and says goodbye. I paid her 500B, and kicked in 100B because I felt sorry for her. As she left, she turned around and looked at me and did a little Thai curtsy. Her eyes were looking down, and I read this as a sign of appreciation and embarrassment at me having witnessed her breakdown.
So.
Beach rd. represents the cheapest and most visible way to get your nut off. But for me, the money you save costs you in other ways. Unless you are willing to just fuck whatever comes along, you have to spend time sifting through the quantity to find the few tokens of quality. And once you do, there is no guarantee that the girl you get wont do what mine did tonight (or something similar). I mean, she was sweet and eventually produced the goods, but she was certainly somewhat unhinged. And I think that's the risk you take with girls on beach rd. There is no quality control whatsoever. In gogo bars and beer bars, and even in soi 6, the crazys get worked out of the system through market forces – crazy girls don't get repeat customers, then they start to look bad relative to the other girls in the eyes of mama san, and they eventually get replaced by someone who brings in more customers. But on beach rd. anyone with a pussy (or an asshole or a hand, or not) can ply their trade, whether emotionally and mentally balanced or not.
So, like with many things in life, if you spend more by going to an establishment, it saves you in several ways. But if your goal is to ejaculate with the least outlay of cash, then I suppose beach rd. is for you. Personally, this experience confirmed that beach rd. ain't for me.
After that emotional rollercoaster, I was beat, and I didn't even bother watching the England USA game on tv in my hotel room – I just lay there and fell asleep.
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[QUOTE=Dominos Dick]Enforcer,
Great find! What a cutie and definitely my type by any chance have her numbers? I may b in LOS end of month and wd love to take her. Please pm me incase you can share her number.[/QUOTE]Sorry Dominus,
I do not have her number unfortunately but go to Nui's fairly early in the evening and I am sure she will be there.
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Sealing the deal on Soi 6
Just a quick line or two (my days being shorter now I have to factor in reading Kumbu's tomes! Not that I'm complaining.)
Popped up Soi 6 last night and did my usual recce up and down the soi, searching out my ST target. I must have picked a bad time because nothing really caught my eye. Until I noticed this demure little gem half-sitting, half-hiding outside one of the bars. So I sauntered over, took her by the hand and sensing she was probably new to all this and a little shy, I invited her inside for a 'ladies drink'. A few minutes later I was staring into the cutest most angelic eyes I've seen in ages (well, days) and now I'm trying to cut to the chase, outlining the deal. I'm horny as hell and not really on a charm offensive so I quickly suggest 700 baht for the girl (+ the usual 300 for the room). At which point I realize I'm getting nowhere and that the girl is not remotely keen. Okay, it could be me, I'm not exactly hideous but at my age I can't hold a torch to some of the 20 year old US Navy guys who wander down the soi occassionally either. After a few more minutes digesting the negative feedback from cute girl I'm pretty sure she isn't going to budge from her position and that she just isn't in the mood to transport me to heaven. Suddenly I'm feeling pretty frustrated, but I'm sanguine, worse things have happened. I call the mamasan over and she explains the situation. The girl is new and has only been with one other falang. His large penis hurt the girl and now she's reassessing her career of choice.
So now I get it, but the longer I stare into those oh-so-cute eyes the hornier I'm becoming. Unfortunately my prospects are looking super bleak and I realize I'm just getting nowhere and the girl just isn't interested.
I'm just about to give up all hope when I remember something.
I reach into the pocket of my combat shorts and pull out a plastic bag containing one pair of lacey panties I bought from a stall on Pattaya Klang (4 pairs for 100 baht). I then present the panties to the girl as a gift.
Suddenly she's looking at me all dog-eyed. She's in love.
I suspect I'm the first person to have ever bought her a gift.
Five minutes later we're upstairs and she transports me to heaven. Bliss.
The moral of the story. A small gift can go a long long way on soi 6 (or at least seal the deal).
Guys, have fun!
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Devil's Den Recommendations?
I will be in Pattaya next month and will be checking out DD.
I'd like to reserve the girls for a threesome beforehand. Thinking of doing Jar and Joy.
Jar looks very cute form her profile pics. But a maybe a little too good. Any chance that he is a she (aka LB)?
I'll be in Patts for over a week and ChangMai for a few days too. Promise to post!
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Fun read
[url]http://bit.ly/9CsTRm[/url]
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]I will be in Pattaya next month and will be checking out DD.
I'd like to reserve the girls for a threesome beforehand. Thinking of doing Jar and Joy.
Jar looks very cute form her profile pics. But a maybe a little too good. Any chance that he is a she (aka LB)?
I'll be in Patts for over a week and ChangMai for a few days too. Promise to post![/QUOTE]I was DD last week and found the whole thing a bit disappointing. It all seemed very choreographed to me. I was shagging one girl mish style when I asked to change and shag the other one doggy. As soon as I was in, the first girl was laying back in front of us fingering herself and apparently in the throes of an orgasm. This sort of "porn acting" went on and I found it difficult to cum, but eventually managed!
I don't want to put anyone off the place, perhaps it's just not my thing.
I'll give you another tip on Pattaya. I was on Beach road one evening last week and a storm was brewing up. I decided to sit on a vacant "seat" and watch the girls for a while. I was not there too long when an old granny came up to me and started pointing to the tree over my head. I looked up and it was full of coconuts! If one of those things had of fallen off, I'd be writing this from the fires of hell!
I later understood that it's a standard joke among Thais that "stupid falangs" sit under coconut trees on windy days!
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More hating on Pattaya
[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1287193/Thousands-British-men-fuel-Thailand-sex-trade--whos-exploiting-who.html[/url]
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I miss my Pattaya
Guys,
Two of my friends are visiting Pattaya next weekend. Too bad I can't join them (have blown my finances after a recent trip to German FKK clubs) this time. The rains at this time, the smiles and the girls gyrating wildly at lucifer/tony/mixx are still vivid memories of my last trip. Picked up a half Chinese half thai girl at TONYs last time and she was great. Oooh Pattaya I will miss you but I do hope my friends have a great time.
Any new leads I might give them?
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[QUOTE=Forced Hand]I was DD last week and found the whole thing a bit disappointing. It all seemed very choreographed to me. I was shagging one girl mish style when I asked to change and shag the other one doggy. As soon as I was in, the first girl was laying back in front of us fingering herself and apparently in the throes of an orgasm. This sort of "porn acting" went on and I found it difficult to cum, but eventually managed!
I don't want to put anyone off the place, perhaps it's just not my thing.
I'll give you another tip on Pattaya. I was on Beach road one evening last week and a storm was brewing up. I decided to sit on a vacant "seat" and watch the girls for a while. I was not there too long when an old granny came up to me and started pointing to the tree over my head. I looked up and it was full of coconuts! If one of those things had of fallen off, I'd be writing this from the fires of hell!
I later understood that it's a standard joke among Thais that "stupid falangs" sit under coconut trees on windy days![/QUOTE]Wow! Great tip! Never would have thought of that. I also heard the same about Durian trees. Thanks for the heads up! LOL
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[QUOTE=Big Daddy 1906][url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1287193/Thousands-British-men-fuel-Thailand-sex-trade--whos-exploiting-who.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for posting. I wouldn't even be surprised if the cow that wrote this didn't even go to Pattaya. "Nothing else to do besides sex and psycho shooting" my ass!"
Obviously there are much nicer Beach spots. The beach isn't that great here. But there is a lot of very cool stuff here as well. The food is great and one million Year old Rock Park is great fun. Koh Larn is also lovely.
I'd like to check out Monkey Island in July. Has anyone been?
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]I will be in Pattaya next month and will be checking out DD.
I'd like to reserve the girls for a threesome beforehand. Thinking of doing Jar and Joy.
Jar looks very cute form her profile pics. But a maybe a little too good. Any chance that he is a she (aka LB)?
I'll be in Patts for over a week and ChangMai for a few days too. Promise to post![/QUOTE]
Jar is all woman - atleast when I was with her in November.
Enjoy,
Junior
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[QUOTE=Junior]Jar is all woman - atleast when I was with her in November.
Enjoy,
Junior[/QUOTE]Many thanks. I can't wait to hit DD!
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[QUOTE=Forced Hand]I later understood that it's a standard joke among Thais that "stupid falangs" sit under coconut trees on windy days![/QUOTE]
Apparently statistically in Thailand you're more likely to get hit by a coconut than lightning. There's also a factoid going around that almost as many people die of coconut hits as snakebites, which might be true since fatal snakebites are actually pretty rare these days in Thailand.
Also be careful of parking your car on Beach Road. One coconut can do an impressive amount of damage!
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[QUOTE=Forced Hand]I was DD last week and found the whole thing a bit disappointing. It all seemed very choreographed to me...
... I don't want to put anyone off the place, perhaps it's just not my thing...[/QUOTE]
That's also what I think about the Eden Club (a choreographed and somehow "mechanical" performance) in Bangkok, but the concept is great and it's something that every monger should experiment at least once in his life if he has the opportunity to go to Bangkok (Eden Club) or Pattaya (Devil's Den).
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[QUOTE=Goyave]That's also what I think about the Eden Club (a choreographed and somehow "mechanical" performance) in Bangkok, but the concept is great and it's something that every monger should experiment at least once in his life if he has the opportunity to go to Bangkok (Eden Club) or Pattaya (Devil's Den).[/QUOTE]
I do agree with you. Personally I don’t hv any complain against DD. They r professional and the girls r very eager to please their customer, as the way they know. If somebody hv any fantasies they can try.
For me I found the place to enjoy own fantasies (unfortunately I don’t hv lot). I know the place is not a dating site and never been expecting girl(s) will be act like GF. They r honest to their job and I’m amazed to seeing their eagerness to comply the male satisfaction.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]That's also what I think about the Eden Club (a choreographed and somehow "mechanical" performance) in Bangkok, but the concept is great and it's something that every monger should experiment at least once in his life if he has the opportunity to go to Bangkok (Eden Club) or Pattaya (Devil's Den).[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but it is the McDonald's of depravity and there is a value in the certainty that you will be subjected to some of the most perverse and socially unacceptable sexual practices known to mankind.
I indulge every time I visit LOS. Can't get a combo BBBJ and rimjob in my country.
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[QUOTE=Pointy Stick]Yeah, but it is the McDonald's of depravity and there is a value in the certainty that you will be subjected to some of the most perverse and socially unacceptable sexual practices known to mankind.
I indulge every time I visit LOS. Can't get a combo BBBJ and rimjob in my country.[/QUOTE]
I love the Devil's Den as well! I am a ST fan, and think the girls there have the absolute best attitude, I mean where else can you tell a girl you want to fuck her in ass, while the other girl fucks her pussy with a dildo and then cum on their faces....OK...maybe some other places in Pattaya, but I still love the place! I visit every trip, at least once.
You also don't have to get the "Standard Show", you tell the girls what you want and they will give it to you...even if you are as depraved as I am.
Unfortunately, Eden has went way down hill in recent years, and I no longer visit when in Bangkok. Last time I stopped in several months ago, it had just opened and there wasn't a single doable girl in the place...IMHO.
I am looking forward to Tum & Ning in just a few more days!
DVEight!
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[QUOTE=Betong]Apparently statistically in Thailand you're more likely to get hit by a coconut than lightning. There's also a factoid going around that almost as many people die of coconut hits as snakebites, which might be true since fatal snakebites are actually pretty rare these days in Thailand.
Also be careful of parking your car on Beach Road. One coconut can do an impressive amount of damage![/QUOTE]
Since being here I have been confronted with 5 snakes, 4 which were in my front yard, 2 were small Cobras around 20 inches the other 2, I'm not sure but nevertheless, they all had their heads cut off by me. I hate snakes like most people but lucky LBM no snakebite. The fifth encounter was just last week coming back from Sattihip I had to pull over on my bike in a open field with a bunch of bushes in front of Sukhumvit and take a much needed [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] as I was pissing and my eyes rolling around how damn good it felt I look down and there it was a snake, larges I have seen in Thailand alive ( most are smashed dead on the roads ) the back end of the body moving away and digging into the ground. I pretty much [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] all over my leg.
When it thurders I can't wait to get out to ride so that I would get struck by a large thurder bolt. The neighbors think I'm crazy and now your telling me I have a better chance of getting hit by a coconut? Shit I'm going down to Beach Rd, right now and sit under the tallest Coconut tree while I'm watching the Freelancer. This way I know I'll get more of the attention and if one doesn't take me out at least I'll be at a ST, room getting my little coconut licked and suck?
LBM, just my 2 cents or snakes and coconuts!
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]Thanks for posting. I wouldn't even be surprised if the cow that wrote this didn't even go to Pattaya. "Nothing else to do besides sex and psycho shooting" my ass!"[/QUOTE]Seemed a pretty fair article to me. Could have been a lot worse...
We may not like to admit it, but that is pretty much what goes on in Pattaya...
Fantasy Island it is not.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I'll be at a ST, room getting my little coconut licked and suck?[/QUOTE]Ah, you mean your snake?
I just did a little research and I can't find ANY confirmed coconut deaths, so that will have to remain a factoid. I do see that there are about 30 verified snakebite deaths per year in Thailand. So not a huge risk factor in Pattaya compared to cars and motorbikes, alcohol and drugs, high balconies, girlfriends and their families, etc.
However if you do want to worry about snakes, the guy who got the spitting cobra out of my backyard says that the one to watch out for around Pattaya is Russell's viper. Gray with brown splotches . . . .
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There's plenty to do in Pattaya unless your total routine is "sleep, eat, drink, fuck...maybe swim" not necessarily in that order :) (but then you wouldn't really CARE, EH?)
I spend some time there but usually I'm "elsewhere" (and not in BKK EITHER - too much air polluted)
yo - betong how big was the ngoo? (just curious)
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Medication
Guys,
How easy is it to get prescription drugs in pattaya? I'm on some medication and going to Pattaya for a few months. I shouldn't run out but if I do, are there decent private doctors that can prescribe prescription medication for tourists? Never had to get any medical treatment before abroad so not sure how it works. I'll have a copy of my uk prescription with me.
Thanks
JohnTheScot
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Gym
Guys,
Sorry to ask a mundane question but, now I have my accommodation in View Talay 6 on soi 9 for 2 or 3 months, does anyone know a decent gym that's close to there (or not cause I'll have a moped) that can pay monthly without long contract and isn't Too much a muscle gym :-).
I'm looking to keep in shape while I'm there as 2 or 3 months will make me VERY pom poi (yeah I know it's wrong so shut up) with all the beer and I know being Scottish that nobody can shag enough to work off the beer that i'm going to drink :-)
Cheers
JohntheScot
P.s. Fuck I must be getting old. 25ish times in Pattaya and now I'm reduced to thinking about going to the gym. I'm only 37. Pattaya has aged me. But in a good way :-)
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Pattaya thread
Guys,
Just a wine induced pre Pattaya trip ramble. Bear with me :-)
I avoid the site most of the time until I'm just about to head back. No offence. I love this site. But I personally don't see the point discussing all this if I'm not going to be there for a while. It drives me crazy thinking of all you less hansum guys shagging all my 'girlfriends'. Except Kumbu. He's 'The One'! He can shag any of my laydeeeees! His greatness might rub off on me :-)
I occasionally go on and read some stuff and even rarer maybe reply to a post from a less experienced or even first timer. You guys do a great job on that anyway and I think the replies from most guys now are so much more helpful and friendly than it was a couple of years ago. This site was, in my opinion, dominated by a bunch of rude, nasty, bigoted guys that loved to belittle anyone on the site asking a question that was 'beneath' those that lived here or new it all. It intimated new guys and created an air of superiority.
They have all gone now it appears.
I stopped visiting, but kept visiting Pattaya. Loads of stories as a 25+ visitor but didnt want to post because of the twits.
Been catching up the thread from last few months. Kumbu and others have really brought this thread to life again and I really see a much nicer spirit here. Lots of old dogs too answering the questions with rarely a desultory comment. Great guys.
Anyway, just wanted to say that I've had a great few months read(in a few days) and definitely owe the site a lot of reports based on my 2-3 month trip to pattaya on 1st.
BUT Kumbu, fcuk, I was reading your reports on my iPad in a management meeting last week. WTF! Couldn't put it down :-) I'll buy you a triple espresso if we meet. :-)
P.s. Oh and happy to meet up during July and august in pattaya. Will also be in bangkok occasionally when I feel i have to leave all my girlfriends for a break :-)
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Re: Medication
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]
How easy is it to get prescription drugs in pattaya? I'm on some medication and going to Pattaya for a few months. I shouldn't run out but if I do, are there decent private doctors that can prescribe prescription medication for tourists? Never had to get any medical treatment before abroad so not sure how it works. I'll have a copy of my uk prescription with me.[/QUOTE]
It is VERY DIFFICULT to get anything more than an aspirin! A foreign prescription will not help at the local Pattaya pharmacies. I was taking a mild anti-depressant, ativan, forgot to pack the medicine, and then I could not get my prescription filled at any pharmacy. On advice of a pharmacist, I had to go to the Pattaya hospital (around the corner from Soi 8), wait to see a doctor, and explain my situation. He gave me a prescription which was filled at the hospital that same morning.
Save yourself the hassle: just go to the hospital and speak to a doctor.
Here in Phnom Penh, you can get anything from a drugstore, without a prescription. Same for Pakistan. For some reason, Thailand and the Philippines are strict with prescription medications.
Bule2004
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Guys,
Sorry to ask a mundane question but, now I have my accommodation in View Talay 6 on soi 9 for 2 or 3 months, does anyone know a decent gym that's close to there (or not cause I'll have a moped) that can pay monthly without long contract and isn't Too much a muscle gym :-).
I'm looking to keep in shape while I'm there as 2 or 3 months will make me VERY pom poi (yeah I know it's wrong so shut up) with all the beer and I know being Scottish that nobody can shag enough to work off the beer that i'm going to drink :-)
Cheers
JohntheScot
P.s. Fuck I must be getting old. 25ish times in Pattaya and now I'm reduced to thinking about going to the gym. I'm only 37. Pattaya has aged me. But in a good way :-)[/QUOTE]
Get on that moped of yours and scoot on down to Soi Bukow. If you drive to the end of Soi LK and turn right onto Soi Bukow there is a gym on your right hand side. It's owned by Tony. I haven't been in there, but I was in Pattaya two weeks ago and noticed people working out in there. I've no idea of costs etc., but it's open 24 hours.
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[QUOTE=Forced Hand]Get on that moped of yours and scoot on down to Soi Bukow. If you drive to the end of Soi LK and turn right onto Soi Bukow there is a gym on your right hand side. It's owned by Tony. I haven't been in there, but I was in Pattaya two weeks ago and noticed people working out in there. I've no idea of costs etc., but it's open 24 hours.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Forced Hand, Soi Bukow?? That's a walk from soi 9. I might be Scottish but I'm not that much of a lazy bastard:-)
I'll check it out though.
Thanks
JohnThescot
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[QUOTE=Bule2004]It is VERY DIFFICULT to get anything more than an aspirin! A foreign prescription will not help at the local Pattaya pharmacies. I was taking a mild anti-depressant, ativan, forgot to pack the medicine, and then I could not get my prescription filled at any pharmacy. On advice of a pharmacist, I had to go to the Pattaya hospital (around the corner from Soi 8), wait to see a doctor, and explain my situation. He gave me a prescription which was filled at the hospital that same morning.
Save yourself the hassle: just go to the hospital and speak to a doctor.
Here in Phnom Penh, you can get anything from a drugstore, without a prescription. Same for Pakistan. For some reason, Thailand and the Philippines are strict with prescription medications.
Bule2004[/QUOTE]
Thanks Bule2004,
I was more meaning going to a doctor or hospital. Dont care so much about the hassle just so long as I know if I have to, I have a solution.
Thanks again
Johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Bule2004]It is VERY DIFFICULT to get anything more than an aspirin! A foreign prescription will not help at the local Pattaya pharmacies. I was taking a mild anti-depressant, ativan, forgot to pack the medicine, and then I could not get my prescription filled at any pharmacy....[/QUOTE]That's not entirely the case. Generally, it's only drugs that have mind or mood altering effects that are only available at hospitals. Many drugs that are prescription only (at least in America), such as antibiotics and arthritis meds, are available over the counter in Thailand. But it definitely pays to shop around, as prices vary a lot!
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Prescription Medicine in Pattaya
That's weird I had no trouble getting prescription medication without a prescription in Pattaya. I went accross the street to the right from the Marriot to a pharmacy next to "Bob Fashions" (a great tailor by the way). I was having trouble sleeping so I asked for some Ambian. She said they didn't have any so I asked her what she had that would help me sleep. She suggested Xanax. While I was at it I picked up some Viagra (sometimes I get nervous with a new woman, but I don't usually need it). I remember it was cheap. This was exactly one year ago. I sure love staying at that Marriot.
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Guys,
How easy is it to get prescription drugs in pattaya? I'm on some medication and going to Pattaya for a few months. I shouldn't run out but if I do, are there decent private doctors that can prescribe prescription medication for tourists? Never had to get any medical treatment before abroad so not sure how it works. I'll have a copy of my uk prescription with me.
Thanks
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]
This is not meant to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off Mr. John-The-Scot but Ativan (Lorazepam) is not an antidepressant, its an anxiolytic, a benzodiazepine (largely in the same class as Valium) that is moderately abuseable. That is likely the reason that its a bit hard to get over the counter in Thailand. That being said, I've gotten stuff like that and harder stuff without a prescription.
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Pattaya
Hello,
I am in Pattaya until the weekend, and travelling alone. If anyone wants to meet up, please let me know. I am 30, from the UK, and have never meet an ISG member before.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]yo - betong how big was the ngoo? (just curious)[/QUOTE]
My spitting cobra? Just over a meter long. The cats used to go out and taunt it but the only thing it ever spit at was me. Cobras in Thailand tend to be pretty timid unless cornered.
LittleBigMan's, you'll have to ask him!
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drugs... well now, you can get pretty much anything except for narcotics at the kai-ya. Maybe not at EVERY kai-ya but as was said, other than what would be considered mind altering or narcotic, you can get it all. Particularly antibiotics and the like. I take a small supply of acet-oxycodone with me (in my script bottle) since that's hard to get. I tote my various pills as well in bottles of daily doses. Never been asked so I can't say what the net would be as far as questions about my script meds (but nothing "dangerous" in the mix anyway)
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[QUOTE=Bule2004] Here in Phnom Penh, you can get anything from a drugstore, without a prescription. Same for Pakistan. For some reason, Thailand and the Philippines are strict with prescription medications.
Bule2004[/QUOTE]
With Thailand I think it has changed a lot just within the last decade. Back in the late 90s you could get Ativan at B30 for a strip of 10. By 2003 the pharmacist had to sorta know you and prices had gone way, way up, at least in one popular place on Sukhumvit.
The Philippines has been restrictive on anxiolytics for longer but is becoming even more of an alternative for run-of-the-mill stuff grossly overcharged in the U.S. Some OEM meds in the foils like Lipitor 40mg are cheaper than Thailand, and there's a new pharmacy chain (the Generics Pharmacy) with 700 stores and a wide selection of meds, many made in the Philippines and some that previously had no generic equivalent there.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]That's also what I think about the Eden Club (a choreographed and somehow "mechanical" performance) in Bangkok, but the concept is great and it's something that every monger should experiment at least once in his life if he has the opportunity to go to Bangkok (Eden Club) or Pattaya (Devil's Den).[/QUOTE]
+1. It's also probably the "surest" thing available for someone with more money than time, and even if you don't become a regular customer the experience is unique and memorable, a bit like the first soapy massage is. It took me 3 non-buying runs at Eden to overcome the price resistance, but I was glad I did from the first time, and have been 3 times in all.
It also shows vividly that there's quite a difference between taking two girls and taking two girls who can work as a team.
Would imagine that you'd have the best chance in years of being able to just walk into the Bangkok location and get a good selection, what with the drop in farangs there.
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[QUOTE=Deal Seeker]This is not meant to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off Mr. John-The-Scot but Ativan (Lorazepam) is not an antidepressant, its an anxiolytic, a benzodiazepine (largely in the same class as Valium) that is moderately abuseable. That is likely the reason that its a bit hard to get over the counter in Thailand. That being said, I've gotten stuff like that and harder stuff without a prescription.[/QUOTE]
I ain't on anything like that. I just take meds for very high BP. My bastard doctor here will only give me 2 months supply max. I can work from pattaya so I might be over there for longer than 2 months depending on how things go.
JohnTheScot
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Obviously I do not know what kind of BP medicine you take but for years I've gotten my BP and Cholesterol meds in BKK. Cheaper than in the States and just walk in tell the guy what you need and there you are.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]I ain't on anything like that. I just take meds for very high BP. My bastard doctor here will only give me 2 months supply max. I can work from pattaya so I might be over there for longer than 2 months depending on how things go.
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]
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Johnthescot,
You are staying on Soi 9, I can't confirm maybe someone shopping there can? On Second Rd, across from I think Soi 13/1 or 13/2 is a Shopping complex call the " Avenue " in the back I saw a fitness club I think it was called California Club. They have daily monthly and yearly membership and I believe the daily rate at Tony's is 250 per day?
In regards to medication, medicine like Lipitor in Pattaya I have only found comes in 20mg but the price I found for the original like Lipitor is around the same as it in the states if you don't have insurance paying for it. It has been a while but it was something like 700/900 baht for Ten pills. You can get the generic Simvastatin 20mg is much much cheaper. As for High blood pressure medication the most common is Lisonpril, which can be purchase at most places without a perscription. For dependable products IMHO you can go to Pattaya Nua up from Big C, FACINOS. For some of the heavy duty heart stuff you might want to check the Pharmacy at Food Land on Pattaya Klang up from Carrefour.
But in the end regarding heavy stuff, you can always just go the the well known hospital that cater to Farangs give your story and I'm sure they can take care of you and keep the ticker going.
LBM
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Pattaya Gym
[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Guys, Sorry to ask a mundane question but, now I have my accommodation in View Talay 6 on soi 9 for 2 or 3 months, does anyone know a decent gym that's close to there (or not cause I'll have a moped) that can pay monthly without long contract and isn't Too much a muscle gym :-).
I'm looking to keep in shape while I'm there as 2 or 3 months will make me VERY pom poi (yeah I know it's wrong so shut up) with all the beer and I know being Scottish that nobody can shag enough to work off the beer that i'm going to drink :-)[/QUOTE]
Tony's has a gym on 3rd road, and another on Soi 16 next to walking street. I've used the one on Soi 16 every time during my many visits to Pattaya, and it was great. The price was very reasonable at 99 baht per visit, but in late January they raised the price to 220 baht per visit, and closed for a complete remodel. The attached link to their website says that the new gym should have reopened in March, but it doesn't look like it's open.
[url]http://www.tonydisco.com/html/fitness/welcome.html[/url]
The other gym called California WOW at the Avenue shopping center on 2nd road seems to be much nicer, but they seem to be more interested in selling long term contracts than having tourists for short memberships. Each time I've been there they've quoted me some outrageous price (like $27 per workout). I've emailed them several times, but they've never responded. Anyone know if you can pay by the day or week or month like Tony's?
[url]http://www.californiawowx.com/Clubs/PTY.php[/url]
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bule forgets one thing about pharms in PP - depending on the drug, there is a significant quantity of FAKES out there. I SUSPECT that in some smaller kai-ya in Thailand, it might also be a problem (albeit, THEY don't know it EITHER - they bought from a middle man who was dealing counterfeits)
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[QUOTE=David 2]Tony's has a gym on 3rd road, and another on Soi 16 next to walking street. I've used the one on Soi 16 every time during my many visits to Pattaya, and it was great. The price was very reasonable at 99 baht per visit, but in late January they raised the price to 220 baht per visit, and closed for a complete remodel. The attached link to their website says that the new gym should have reopened in March, but it doesn't look like it's open.
[url]http://www.tonydisco.com/html/fitness/welcome.html[/url]
The other gym called California WOW at the Avenue shopping center on 2nd road seems to be much nicer, but they seem to be more interested in selling long term contracts than having tourists for short memberships. Each time I've been there they've quoted me some outrageous price (like $27 per workout). I've emailed them several times, but they've never responded. Anyone know if you can pay by the day or week or month like Tony's?
[url]http://www.californiawowx.com/Clubs/PTY.php[/url][/QUOTE]
California WOW has a very strange price scheme indeed, I found a mention of a 2,000THB per week membership on their site, nothing about a monthly. There was also mention of a free 7 days pass, where I am sure you would be harassed every time you come in, however if you just say no, a whole bunch of times you may get a decent deal in the end. They have a yearly membership that costs 6000THB more than a lifetime membership there. With their lifetime membership, you have to pay a yearly "maintenance fee" of 100THB, if you miss the deadline, you loose your lifetime membership They of course will not tell you about the 15,000THB Lifetime Membership until after you have repeatedly turned down all of their other "packages"
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Guys,
Whats the relevance of the ipad then? You old show off ha ha never changed I see[/quote]But Kumbu, fcuk, I was reading your reports on my iPad in a management meeting last week. WTF! Couldn't put it down I'll buy you a triple espresso if we meet.
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Gyms
[QUOTE=David 2]The price was very reasonable at 99 baht per visit, but in late January they raised the price to 220 baht per visit[/QUOTE]The 3rd Rd. Tony's has also gone to B220 (from B200), plus they've started charging for towels. Longer-term rates for one week and up can save you a little, but only if you go pretty much every day. Rates are much cheaper for Thais, something I'm sure they appreciate but I don't.
California Wow is really to be avoided. Nice facilities but too many little tricks and scams.
There are several small, very cheap non-AC gyms around Pattaya which are OK if you can get by with just free weights and simple machines. I've used one on 3rd Rd. just north of Pattaya Tai.
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[QUOTE=Dveight]California WOW has a very strange price scheme indeed, I found a mention of a 2,000THB per week membership on their site, nothing about a monthly. There was also mention of a free 7 days pass, where I am sure you would be harassed every time you come in, however if you just say no, a whole bunch of times you may get a decent deal in the end. They have a yearly membership that costs 6000THB more than a lifetime membership there. With their lifetime membership, you have to pay a yearly "maintenance fee" of 100THB, if you miss the deadline, you loose your lifetime membership They of course will not tell you about the 15,000THB Lifetime Membership until after you have repeatedly turned down all of their other "packages"[/QUOTE]Warning: Lifetime membership always means your life or that of the company, whichever is shorter.
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[QUOTE=Dveight]California WOW has a very strange price scheme indeed, I found a mention of a 2,000THB per week membership on their site, nothing about a monthly. There was also mention of a free 7 days pass, where I am sure you would be harassed every time you come in, however if you just say no, a whole bunch of times you may get a decent deal in the end. They have a yearly membership that costs 6000THB more than a lifetime membership there. With their lifetime membership, you have to pay a yearly "maintenance fee" of 100THB, if you miss the deadline, you loose your lifetime membership They of course will not tell you about the 15,000THB Lifetime Membership until after you have repeatedly turned down all of their other "packages"[/QUOTE]
If you have a 24HR fitness membership, they might give you a week for free. I usually go to the one on Sukumvit and my friend goes to the one hear Patpong and they usually ask how long you are staying and I say one week and all you have to do is sign in and show them your 24hr. membership.
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That's a deal. Never say no to an offer for a triple shot.
[QUOTE=Diceman]But Kumbu, fcuk, I was reading your reports on my iPad in a management meeting last week. WTF! Couldn't put it down I'll buy you a triple espresso if we meet.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ploughman]With Thailand I think it has changed a lot just within the last decade. Back in the late 90s you could get Ativan at B30 for a strip of 10. By 2003 the pharmacist had to sorta know you and prices had gone way, way up, at least in one popular place on Sukhumvit.
The Philippines has been restrictive on anxiolytics for longer but is becoming even more of an alternative for run-of-the-mill stuff grossly overcharged in the U.S. Some OEM meds in the foils like Lipitor 40mg are cheaper than Thailand, and there's a new pharmacy chain (the Generics Pharmacy) with 700 stores and a wide selection of meds, many made in the Philippines and some that previously had no generic equivalent there.[/QUOTE]
In Philippines X through presc. Use it when on longtime flights.
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The best girl I've had ever
Guys I have just had the absolute best working girl experience in my life.
I went down to Pattaya looking for big tits. Period. Not C's or B's. And within 15 minutes of getting to Pattaya I was in my hotel with the biggest tits AND ass I have ever seen.
I checked into my room after hopping off of the baht bus near walking street. I checked into my hotel and stepped outside to Beach Road to see it was raining. Swearing to myself I stepped under the awning of a store to wait the rain out. Then I saw it.
I saw a chick all in white trying to scurry across the street from the beach side. Ass and tits jiggling everywhere. I mean it was like watching a chick from a rap video. I could not believe she was Thai. She even had a awesome cameltoe...the tightest damn shorts..and a HUGE chest. She crossed the street and starting walking toward me to get out of the rain. I started chatting her up right away. Her tits were straining in the shirt..and her ass and hips were huge. She wasnt the prettiest but I didnt care. I mean this girl was turning heads as she was talking to me. One guy even stopped to see if I was going to be able to scoop her up because I could see in his eyes he wanted her. This girls body was just bodacious.
And all she asked for was 500 baht.
Now we all know that is the going rate for Beach Road girls. But this girl could have asked for so much more. I still dont understand why. I naturally agreed and wondered what I could get out of her for 1000 baht.
We got to my room and in classic style I started chatting with her first. Nice girl, no kids. Then I noticed she had a huge scratch on her leg. Seems some guy got high in a room with her and beat her. Damn shame. I could still see the fear in her eyes as she talked about it. Then I asked her about anal, photos and a facial. Her only question was how much will you give me? I said 1,500 and the girl was so happy! She disrobed, showered and came back ready for action.
The bj was incredible...slurping, eye contact, deep throat...drooling..Then the pussy was so damn tight...and she moaned like the day would never end. Then she turned around, put her ass in the air and took every inch and loved it. It was, I think, perhaps the best sexual experience of any kind in my life. I got her digits and have been back to Pattaya to hit it again. I am having a ball with this girl and will continue to until I tire of her. She is arranging a 4 some for me..all girls will be 3 holers, will stay for two days and will cook, clean etc in the nude for me as well. 3,000 baht for each and two of them have huge tits like her.
This place is paradise.
Showdown
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A little milker
After a draining experience with my big tits girl I saw my friend Oil. She finds milkers for me. With her was one of the smallest chicks I ever saw. Oil told me she was lactating and was a nice girl. I wasnt really attracted to her but what the hell...she only wanted 400 baht.
She wasnt worth much more than that. But she was fun and tried her best.
Showdown
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I recognized this gal right away. I picked her up in front of the McDonalds across from Beach Road about two years ago. At that time, she was traveling back and forth between Bangkok (said she had a steady client there) and Pattaya. Great eveything, one I will never forget.
[QUOTE=Showdown]Guys I have just had the absolute best working girl experience in my life.
I went down to Pattaya looking for big tits. Period. Not C's or B's. And within 15 minutes of getting to Pattaya I was in my hotel with the biggest tits AND ass I have ever seen.
I checked into my room after hopping off of the baht bus near walking street. I checked into my hotel and stepped outside to Beach Road to see it was raining. Swearing to myself I stepped under the awning of a store to wait the rain out. Then I saw it.
I saw a chick all in white trying to scurry across the street from the beach side. Ass and tits jiggling everywhere. I mean it was like watching a chick from a rap video. I could not believe she was Thai. She even had a awesome cameltoe...the tightest damn shorts..and a HUGE chest. She crossed the street and starting walking toward me to get out of the rain. I started chatting her up right away. Her tits were straining in the shirt..and her ass and hips were huge. She wasnt the prettiest but I didnt care. I mean this girl was turning heads as she was talking to me. One guy even stopped to see if I was going to be able to scoop her up because I could see in his eyes he wanted her. This girls body was just bodacious.
And all she asked for was 500 baht.
Now we all know that is the going rate for Beach Road girls. But this girl could have asked for so much more. I still dont understand why. I naturally agreed and wondered what I could get out of her for 1000 baht.
We got to my room and in classic style I started chatting with her first. Nice girl, no kids. Then I noticed she had a huge scratch on her leg. Seems some guy got high in a room with her and beat her. Damn shame. I could still see the fear in her eyes as she talked about it. Then I asked her about anal, photos and a facial. Her only question was how much will you give me? I said 1,500 and the girl was so happy! She disrobed, showered and came back ready for action.
The bj was incredible...slurping, eye contact, deep throat...drooling..Then the pussy was so damn tight...and she moaned like the day would never end. Then she turned around, put her ass in the air and took every inch and loved it. It was, I think, perhaps the best sexual experience of any kind in my life. I got her digits and have been back to Pattaya to hit it again. I am having a ball with this girl and will continue to until I tire of her. She is arranging a 4 some for me..all girls will be 3 holers, will stay for two days and will cook, clean etc in the nude for me as well. 3,000 baht for each and two of them have huge tits like her.
This place is paradise.
Showdown[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Showdown]Guys I have just had the absolute best working girl experience in my life.
I went down to Pattaya looking for big tits. Period. Not C's or B's. And within 15 minutes of getting to Pattaya I was in my hotel with the biggest tits AND ass I have ever seen.
Showdown[/QUOTE]Hey, showdown, nice score, how about sharing her number with a bro that likes all that jiggly stuff she has on offer aswell.
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[QUOTE=Showdown]
This place is paradise.
Showdown[/QUOTE]
If you're into the type of girls in your photos, then yes, Pattaya is the place for you. No reason to look anywhere else.
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[QUOTE=Showdown]Guys I have just had the absolute best working girl experience in my life.
This place is paradise.
Showdown[/QUOTE]
It seems you like strong emotions!
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[QUOTE=Showdown]Guys I have just had the absolute best working girl experience in my life.
I went down to Pattaya looking for big tits. Period. Not C's or B's. And within 15 minutes of getting to Pattaya I was in my hotel with the biggest tits AND ass I have ever seen..
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by your descrition I was thinking to go and see a bit of a big girl
Big tits and ass but ok in general, nothing monster ot BBBW
funny face and ears, but not unusual in Thailand
Looks you had a good experience and you will have more!
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Share Please
Will be making my annual trip to Bangkok and Pattaya in a few months. As a general propostion, could you please provide names and clubs for you hookups. I find that its a great starter, and sometimes a lot more fun, if you know a gals name ahead of time. I visit the Philippines more, and when I do I try to provide the same info.
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Secrets
Anyone out there have any go around or a root with a secret's girl name soda / poomy?
Just wondering. Been hitting me up on Thai dating site.
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[QUOTE=Henryv]Will be making my annual trip to Bangkok and Pattaya in a few months[/QUOTE]Me to First-timer. I go to Pattaya soon, so I want to ask you guys a question: how many Thai girls are furry? As I don't like shaved pussies, I'm worrying how to manage it. Shall I ask the girls about her fur? I don't want to be rude farang.
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RTFF - PATS is the world's largest "open air 'Ho house". IF there are girlz inside (outside, whatever) they are available... anywhere on Soi 18 down to 7, and then 6, then anywhere on 2nd Road, Beach, Buakhao, Walking Street... IT'S ALL AVAILABLE - only the prices change.
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Me to First-timer. I go to Pattaya soon, so I want to ask you guys a question: how many Thai girls are furry? As I don't like shaved pussies, I'm worrying how to manage it. Shall I ask the girls about her fur? I don't want to be rude farang.[/QUOTE]
I'm like you,I hate shaved pussies.
I always ask them if they shave or not before I take them. Yes it's ok to ask, but do it nicely. If you speak Thai, you'll have no problems communicating this.
Some of the girls will think you're a bit weird, but at least you'll get what you want. Most of the brand new girls don't shave. I find that the vast majority of girls in pattaya shave, so it's gonna be a bit of work to find what you want. Good Luck!
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[QUOTE=Showdown]Guys I have just had the absolute best working girl experience in my life. Chick all in white . . . awesome cameltoe...the tightest damn shorts..and a HUGE chest . . . her ass and hips were huge.[/QUOTE]Banging body - small waist too - great find! Fo rmen like me who love hips, ass, and legs - this chick approaches perfection.
The natural rack is all BONUS! Excellent.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm like you,I hate shaved pussies.[/QUOTE]Maybe I am a bit weird, or an old-style guy (however, I'm still before my 50s), but having a girl with bare pussy, no pubic hair, makes me as I woul be fucking a child... And as far as I have some pervert ideas and I do like teenage girls very much (the older I am, the more I like them :)) - children are out of my interest with no doubts.
[QUOTE]I always ask them if they shave or not before I take them. Yes it's ok to ask, but do it nicely. If you speak Thai, you'll have no problems communicating this.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate! I can't speak Thai so far, even English is my non native language, but will do my best to learn in Thai: "are you shaved THERE, sweetheart?" :) Any advice will be highly appreciated!
I go to Pattaya this November, that will be my first visit to Thailand, I am a bush fan (not a G. Bush :)) so I wonder how many asian girls in Pattaya are unshaved? Would anybody please approximate their thoughts in percentage? Is it 25 of 100 or 15% or even less..? Also - where you can really see what you really get? I mean where you can see the girls pussies, before you barfine them or order in a massage parlor? Is it all right to ask mamasan or at the massage counter desk about it?
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]
Would anybody please approximate their thoughts in percentage? Is it 25 of 100 or 15% or even less..? Also - where you can really see what you really get? I mean where you can see the girls pussies, before you barfine them or order in a massage parlor? Is it all right to ask mamasan or at the massage counter desk about it?[/QUOTE]
From my experience I'd say that 70% of the girls are shaven. It's really become a trend for the sex workers in pattaya. Go to super baby gogo. Most of the girls are unshaven and you can see there pussies.
It's alright to ask anything in Thailand. You are the customer and are parting with cash. Never be shy to ask any question. The more you pre-qualify the better your scores will be. I have a list of 6 crucial question (imbedded in my head) that I ask every girl, but I mix it into a conversation, that way it doesn't feel like an interregation.
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]
Thanks mate! I can't speak Thai so far, even English is my non native language, but will do my best to learn in Thai: "are you shaved THERE, sweetheart?" :) Any advice will be highly appreciated!
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You could simply ask, with a smile "Mee moi mai?" which basically asks "have you got pubic hair."
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Tipping at Devil's Den
What do you guys think would be a decent tip for the standard 2 girl session?
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]You could simply ask, with a smile "Mee moi mai?" which basically asks "have you got pubic hair."[/QUOTE]
And listen for Meee Khaaa = yes I have (Big smile now), and Mai Meee Khaaa = No I don't have.
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Staying for the first time in the Queen Victoria Inn in Soi 6.
They have some new rooms on the third floor. 900B per night. Room squeaky clean new and well appointed. Aircon, tea, coffee, free water bottles, cable tv with a variety of languages. English has Fox, BBC, Aljazeera, Bloomberg, AsiaNetwork, Australia tv Q, some sport, some movies and a cartoon channel. Plus one German, some russian, Italian.
Balcony overlooks the action in Soi 6 - some entertainment value there.
The noise factor is low-ish, I am a heavy sleeper, so zero problems for me. A really light sleeper would hear stuff.
It has stairs to the third floor which are made for dainty feet. So on the way down, you will have to take care on the stairs if drunk.
Other than that, it is not large and luxurious, but it is very comfortable, new and tastefully appointed and good value for money...not to mention a mere stagger from having your other, ahem, needs, met. :)
Basically if you were just here for a few days wanting to eat drink screw relax and repeat all above, it is ideal. Short Baht bus ride from walking street, or fifteen minutes brisk walk.
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[QUOTE=Rubberyman]And listen for Meee Khaaa = yes I have (Big smile now), and Mai Meee Khaaa = No I don't have.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. So its gona be like this:
- Mee moi mai?
- Meee Khaaa.
- Pom ruk koon! Goldenam boom-boom
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[QUOTE=Amjeck] Go to super baby gogo. Most of the girls are unshaven and you can see there pussies.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for all the advices so far. Do the girs from Superbaby and Supergirl go with farangs? I red somwhere these bars are Japenesse/Corean oriented only.
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Kumbu Goes Tantric
[b]background[/b]
a couple of weeks ago i revealed myself as a chump in that i was taken by a gogo girl for a few thousand baht. i had been with her several times, the sex was awesome, and i was just enjoying it a great deal. so i was rather unprepared to let her go, and she took advantage of this. you can read the report here:
[post]1029542[/post]
i got variable responses to this report. some thought it was a great read, others thought i was an idiot, and others thought it was too touchy feely. i appreciate all the responses i got, positive and negative. actually, those who didn't like it can get on their knees and suck my two danglys, because here comes another one.
anyway, this was my last weekend in pattaya before i return to the states, and i wanted to make it count. and so it is that i bring to you this tale of a two night sex marathon of unparalleled proportions.
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[b]the set up[/b]
sting is famous for many reasons. obviously, he lead the police for many years, and he championed the preservation and restoration of rain forests around the world. but he is also famous for his tantric sex. i'm not sure where the rumors come from, but he is said to have sex for hours on end without ejaculating, and gaining both pleasure and spirituality from such experiences. well, on friday and saturday nights, your kumbu unknowingly and unwittingly channeled sting in his tantric, sexual role.
monday night
sms: tilak, why you no call me? i miss you, i want see you. when you come pattaya?
tuesday night:
tilaaaaaak. me solly. me know no take care you last time. you come pattaya see me, i plomise, me take care you. plomise.
wednesday night:
tiiiiilaaaaak. me missing you welly much. you come pattaya, i take care you long time, no pomplem. me missing you, want to see you.
so i relented and called her on wed night. we talked for a while, she apologized, and i was rather stand-offish. she knew i had been a good deal – i sucked her pussy for ever and paid her the same as someone who fucks her 3 times. there is no comparison. she needed to make good with me, and here she was with her tail between her legs.
so to cut it short, we agree that she will take super good care of me, and the cost of said care will be the normal short time pay: bar fine + 1500baht. but i will go long time. so that is the special deal she promised me. furthermore, she said the magic words: when you come to see me, i plomise, you can do *anything* to me. fred flintstone? scooby doo? naah, captain picard: engage!
[b]pre-girlie activities[/b]
so i take the bus down to pattaya on friday evening ready for an all nighter. i had slept three hours the night before, and four the night before that, so i was running on fumes at that point. triple americanos were going through me like water, as i popped them by the hour. because of this physical fatigue, the spirit is definitely strong, but the flesh may be unwilling. and in such cases, what does one do? well, i packed a fresh batch of levitra – two pills of 20mg split into four each. so eight shots of boner magic.
i arrive in pattaya at 9pm, and this time i stayed at the dusit d2, not the shithole that is the nova platinum. i will post something on the pattaya hotels thread at some point about these two hotels, but there really is no comparison: the dusit wins hands down.
i get into the room and decide to watch some world cup. i don't even know who was playing because i dozed off and the next thing i know my phone is ringing and it is 12:30am. it is her, she is worried i might not show, and she has already turned down three bar fines tonight. i scramble out of bed, assure her that i am on my way, and pop into the shower.
dressed to kill, i saunter out across second road and find a place on one of those sois which has a real espresso machine on display. guzzle my triple shots, and baht bus it down to ws. it had rained earlier and so everything was wet and humid. i walked through the crowd, trying to avoid bumping into some smelly, unwashed bum who might rub their stink onto me, and at the same time trying to avoid the myriad drips from drains and sewer pipes that fall onto the street. i finally got to the club, and as i walked in, on stage, is my girl.
[b]at the club[/b]
it happens to be the time for the sexy show, and she is a star player in it. there is a stool on stage, and she is standing next to the stool, leaned over backward over the stool. her back is bent at an impossible angle such that her head is almost on the ground behind her, with the stool propping her up. and there is a dike of a woman sucking the hell out of her pussy. wait a minute, i have to share the pussy with the dike tonight? hell no.
as i walk in, i am ushered to a seat, and my girl magically opens her eyes. she is in the middle of a show, having her pussy eaten out in front of a hundred people, and her eyes opened and looked in my direction. damn. she smiles a little, and then closes her eyes again, continuing with the show.
afterwards, after the applause ended and she got off stage, she runs (literally) over to me and plants a kiss on my cheek. she's a little drunk, i can tell, and that's good, since she opens up when she's maw. she tells me to wait while she showers. i watch the other girls dancing, and they are all looking at me. they see a huge wallet sitting in the back waiting to be broken down by one of their competitors, and they are all thinking the same thing: why didn't budhha give this man to me? why am i not lucky?
that may sound conceited, but that's not the intention. the reality is many of these girls see the world as run by luck, a substance dispensed by the great buddha. if they do not get said substance, they assume it is something they have done which caused luck to be withheld from them. and that makes them both miserable and content at the same time. miserable because they wish they could do better so as to change their luck, but content in that it explains their lack of customers – it is this luck issue, not their attitude or beauty.
so 10 minutes later my girl arrives wearing a frilly white blouse with red love hearts on it which goes down to just beneath her ass, and short, short shorts beneath that. she had a push-up bra on which revealed the more-than-ample cleavage she has, and she was showing off her legs tonight, knowing full well that this is what gets my motor running.
so we walk out, and she asks me where i want to go. i say 'up to you', testing her, and she passed beautifully. her response was 'let's go hotel, i take care you.'
we walk over to a car park on second road where she keeps her car, and we drive over to the dusit. she's hungry so we walk over to mcdonald's for some crap to eat. damn, it's been a while since i ate that shit and i had forgotten just how cardboardy everything is there.
[b]pre-sex hotel[/b]
we get back into the hotel and we talk for a while. she wants to take this opportunity to explain her behavior before. she told me various things, not worth repeating, but it all kind of made sense, from her perspective. so we made up, and she kept telling me that she wants to take care of me.
this was code for make-up sex. and we all know from george costanza, that there are fewer better things in life than make-up sex.
i offer her a drink, which she accepts (a bacardi breezer of some sort), and i drink some water. we talk about her daughter. now this is the girl who always leaves her customers at 3am, no matter what, so she can get home and prepare breakfast for her daughter. turns out that in preparation for my visit, she arranged for her daughter to go to her home city with her sister, so my girl pronounces to me with great pomp and fanfare: “today, i spend all-night-all-day with you.” this was a big deal for her, and i could very easily tell – she was positively giddy at the prospect. and she said “all-night-all-day” as a single word, as if it was a technical term of her trade. she claimed to have never done this before, and she was excited to see what it was like.
i was a little wary. this was getting a little personal, and i wanted to keep it purely sexual. so i told her that she could (and should) go home to do her regular stuff at some point, and she agreed. but she was totally stoked to be doing an all nighter. that was a very good sign.
so we shower, and as we shower, she is looking fabulous. i just marvel at the architecture of her ass – it is round, large, very shapely, and perfectly proportioned. furthermore, the crack extends fully from top to bottom – many girls, especially asian girls, have cracks that don't do far up enough; they sort of end in the middle of the ass and that leaves a far less satisfying visual scene. not this girl – hers is a full ass. in fact, i was chuckling at something i noticed earlier in the evening as we were walking over to mcdonald's: she has a very ungainly gait – she kind of stumbles along, looking very inelegant, and i was trying to figure out why. the first thing i noticed was that she walked with her toes pointing inward. furthermore, he knees also pointed inward as she walked, and i slowly realized that this is because of the fullness of her ass. her ass cheeks are so large, they push together with such pressure, that it forces her to walk with her knees pointed inward. you know it's a big ass when it forces you to walk in such an odd way.
furthermore, her boobs are unusually large for a girl her size. it is definitely not a boob job – there is absolutely nothing fake about these boobs – they are pure womanhood. so basically the picture i am painting for you is a girl with a small frame, very large boobs, a tiny little waist, a big, round ass, and fabulous, sexy legs. is that not what we all yearn for? well, maybe not, but it is the definition of physical beauty for me.
showered, dried, lying on the bed together, we continue our talking. slowly she starts to rub my chest, my legs, and then she starts to play with my nipples. i reciprocate, partly because i had the opportunity to play with her boobs and partly as a way to stop her from rubbing my overly sensitive nipples. before i can move my face to the breasts, she stops me, pulls back, and looks me directly in the eyes. she takes both her hands and places the palms on her collarbones and slowly runs them down the length of her body: over her breasts, down across her tight stomach, over the well-plucked pussy, across her tender thighs, all the way down to the knees, and as she does this she says “tonight....you....can...do...anything.”
fuck.
me.
[b]and so it begins...[/b]
so i go for the breasts first. her breasts are remarkable things, i must say. they are pout, stout, firm, large, protruding, and her nipples are a remarkable shade of pink. i sucked and played so much i was getting positively intoxicated by the thought of my luck tonight. thank you buddha. i then moved to her belly, and she was patient as i spent a little too long exploring the details of her midsection. tonight i can do anything, and this is what i wanted to do.
i then by-passed her pussy, giving it a small kiss on the way down to her legs. i kissed those legs from top to bottom, front and back, spending some time on her feet and toes. during the shower i had fastidiously cleaned her feet in anticipation of this moment. so i got to her feet and i kissed around her ankles a little, and then moved to her toes. she was totally blown away when i popped the second toe into my mouth and started to suck it. i expected her to scream from chakachee, but she just gasped and wriggled. i did the same to the big toe, and then sped through the rest of the toes. i kissed my way back up the other side of the leg, and then did the other leg, spending similar time on the toes. all together, the leg/foot action must have lasted a good 12-15 minutes. that's a ridiculous amount of time, but there you go. tonight i can do anything, and this is what i wanted to do.
upon completing my second leg, i worked my way up the inside of her leg and began some daty. the daty was excellent, just like previous times. she is so supremely clean and fresh it is unreal. and she does not use any vaginal douche, so i am not sure how she does it. but every single time i have been down there, it has smelled and tasted spectacular. this time, like previous times, she was open to rimming, and so i did some of that (although not too much – i was saving that for later). she eventually orgasmed, and pulled away with whimpers of 'siao'. ok, so we lay there for a while, she then went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and shower, and returned with an enormous grin on her face. she jumped into bad and flung her hands around me saying 'kop khun kaa.' my pleasure...oh, wait, no, your pleasure.
[b]orgasm #2 – for her[/b]
little kumbu was rock hard throughout, and he remained solid even when she was showering. truth be told, i did play with him a little while she was showering, just to keep him on his game. so when she got back and the lovey-dovey thank yous were over, i turned around and showed her our towering hero. she giggled and asked if he was lonely. so she goes down on little kumbu, bare back. her technique was not superb, and she was clearly bothered by the pre-cum that i give out (i do a lot of that, and so i understand a woman's reluctance to spend too much time down there). but she gave it a valiant shot, and i recognized her efforts.
so after a while of this, i pull her up and grab a condom. my trojans were finished, so i had some local thing, which was all lubricated, and so i got that crap on my hands, which did not please big kumbu one bit. but anyway, she splits her legs and little kumbu dives right in. missionary for around 7 minutes, and to my surprise, she starts to orgasm. i was not expecting it so soon, as i had yet to turn on the mac-daddy kumbu vibe. but there you go. the orgasm was soft and sensual, not really a full-on screamer. but she smiled and crinkled her nose in embarrassment.
[b]an unusual occurrence[/b]
i kissed her nose and giggled with her, and as we giggled our lips somehow slipped together. and what followed was the most almighty dfk session i have ever had. i make no bones about the fact that i typically don't care for dfk. i find it is too intimate for me, and i will never seek it out. if it is offered, i see that as a great sign that the girl is eager to please, but i don't really care for it myself. but in this case, it was like a volcano had erupted within this girl and it was all coming out tonight. the kissing was sensual, deep, and totally uninhibited. i have never been kissed like this, ever, even by someone who totally loved me – it was the most open expression of emotion i have ever been subject to, and to tell you the truth, after the awesomeness of it had worn off, i was getting worried. was this girl trying to bond with me? that ain't cool. but i didn't let that stop the dfk – it went on for a good ten minutes.
mind you, i was still inside her – the wriggling and squirming as we kissed was actually really good, although i never tried to pump at all, as it was too soon after her orgasm.
the kissing ended, and she jumped up and went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] again. damn, this girl has a bladder like one of the many ping pong balls she grabs every night. when she got back, she crept into the bed very sheepishly, embarrassed by her double orgasmic affair thus far. she offered me a massage, and i turned around and showed her engorged little kumbu again. i said 'unless you want to massage this, i'm not interested in massage.'
she says, “ok, now time for you to cum. then we rest, and then we go again. i want you to cum four times today, daay mai?” i said “mai daay. cannot cum four times. can come one time, maybe two.” and she said “no tilak, today, you come four times.” and i said “ok, let's try for that.”
so she gets onto all fours, grabs a pillow, buries her face in the pillow and props her ass up for me to look at. i love it when they spontaneously do that. it's like they are so in tuned with me and my needs. that sounds like a line from oprah, but men have needs to, right? yes, doggie style sex – that's what men need!
[b]orgasm #3 – still for her[/b]
instead of cramming little kumbu into her pussy, i was just overtaken by the desire to lick her ass once more. as i said in my previous post, it is an awesomely amazing asshole she has. it's weird, you don't usually think of assholes as things of beauty, but this really is. it is perfectly shaped, perfectly symmetrical, perfectly colored, and smells and tastes fabulous. if there is shit in this girl, i have yet to detect it.
so with her on all fours, i plunge in. i wrote a really long version of what happened here, but upon re-reading this report, i am cutting it out. turns out that one pussy-sucking write-up is pretty much like any other pussy-sucking write up, even if this one was one of the more memorable ones. if anyone really wants to read it, pm me and i will send it along. for now, i skip right to the part where she orgasms once again from the cunnilingus, before i even get inside of her.
she starts to buck and gyrate with a little force, and i know the end is near. a line from a band of horses song runs through my head:
the end's not near...it's here.
halleluja, spread the cheer.
and watch the millenarians
throw a party for a thousand years.
and so it was that she came for the third time. as she did so, her thighs compressed, i felt a series of rapid contraction/releases in her asshole, and she then pulled away and shoved my head away like a used piece of toilet paper. it's cool, i'm used to being treated that way. i grab her around the hips, my face in one of her butt cheeks, and we sit there recovering for a few moments. she starts yattering in thai, and i think it was a scolding of some sort. somehow i had violated protocol by making her cum a third time when it was supposed to be my turn. she was now seriously down on the count – how is she to make me cum three times without her cumming at all? i looked at her with calm indifference and said 'shut up tilak.'
[b]suck it[/b]
i got up and stood before her, little kumbu protruding perfectly horizontally in her direction. i looked down at her and then caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror. funny, what i noticed in the mirror was not how engorged little kumbu was, or her sexy as as she crouched there looking at me. no, i noticed just how unsightly chest hair can be. chest hair on me, not her, just in case you were wondering. anyway, i banished that thought from my head, turned my attention back to the matter at hand, and i pointed rudely down at him. the message was clear: suck.
and suck she did. once again, it was belabored and uninspired, but i was enjoying watching her ass in the mirror wiggle as she tried to get good angles on little kumbu. so we went for a while, and i felt the orgasm begin to well up in the base of my scrotum. i wondered whether i should cream this little thai potato, or whether that might sour things here a little. hmm, what is the plan?
[b]the rise of the tantra[/b]
i then considered my options. if i ejaculate here, then we are pretty much done for the night. that would not be bad, as i was pretty damned tired at this point, and could use some sleep. we could always pick it up tomorrow, as she will be staying with me for a couple of days. on the other, i sensed there was a lot of energy left in the girl, so it would kind of be a waste of potential to drop my load now. so i pulled back.
she was confused, so i said i wanted to fuck her. i used the word 'fuck', which i usually don't do, and her eyes opened wide. she knew i was serious, so she reached over, grabbed a condom and helped stick it onto me. she flips around onto all fours and proffers her backside (not anal, just doggie). i decide against this, and flip her back over onto her back and enter her with her legs spread wide, almost into a splits. this is where i had the first of my tantric experiences. up until now, i had been fucking and being sucked for a good long time – it was well more than an hour of low-level stimulation. little kumbu had been on the front lines of this battle the whole time, and i was very proud of the little guy. but now it got interesting.
so i began to rhythmically penetrate her, in and out, slow, repeated thrusts, and she was getting more and more worked up. but in my head, i entered a zone of my own. i was no longer in tune with her. i figured i had pleased her four times already (or was it three? i was not in an arithmetic state), it was time to focus on little kumbu. and what i really wanted was to have a slow, measured build up, followed by a little toying with the point of orgasm (i.e., getting up to that line, then pulling back a little, then teasing it a little more, until eventually letting go). so i closed my eyes and just focused on what was happening inside of me.
i slowly felt the pleasure rise within me, and as it did, i slowed my thrusting. she was urging me on, sensing that something was afoot, but i ignored her. i slowed my thrusting until i almost stopped, letting the orgasm dissipate. i then picked up again, slowly increasing the pace, with the commensurate gain in pleasure. and she began to pull harder on my shoulders and thrust her hips at me a little harder too. but once again, as i approached the line of no return, i pulled back and slowed my pace. but this time, a slowing of the pace didn't quite do it, so i had to completely stop all thrusting. this is a little awkward, so i tried to mask what i was doing by kissing her gently. she interpreted this as an expression of emotion, whereas it was really a totally self-serving act of slowing things down so i don't orgasm.
once my balls had stopped fizzing, i stopped the kissing and picked up the fucking again. and once again as the pleasure approached, i slowed my speed, much to her chagrin. this time, stopping entirely wasn't quite enough to dissipate the orgasm – i felt ridiculously sensitive and close to orgasming, so i gently pulled out entirely. she gasped in disappointment at this – i sensed she was tired and she wanted to go to sleep. but i was feeling a little intoxicated with sex and a bit selfish at this point, so too bad honey.
i nudged her onto her side and entered her from behind. by this time little kumbu had gained some control back and i was able to thrust normally now. and as i increased my pace i felt a sharp tightening of her ass (just like when i had my thumb on her asshole), and she gave out a long 'aaaaaaawwwwwww.' and she pulled away from me. umm, i'm still working here!
she whimpers about sorry, and then says that when she cums, she needs to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] afterwards (i'm the same way, i know many others are too), so she scampers off to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]. i then hear the shower go on, and so i knew i had a few minutes to ponder the night.
as i lay there looking up at the ceiling, i was feeling supremely satisfied. i had not actually ejaculated, but i was feeling like i had had three or four orgasms already. they were not ejaculatory orgasms, but they were superbly pleasurable – the ones where you go right up to the edge and then pull back. little kumbu was very happy, although i must say i was feeling a certain tightness in my balls. but as i thought these things, i slowly fell asleep, and i guess when she came back, she saw this and slipped into bed with me. so we slept that night without little kumbu blowing his wad, and i must say that i was actually very pleased.
the next report is on the ridiculous tantric sex that continued the next day and night. i tell you, i may have permanently damaged myself.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu][B]Background[/B]
A couple of weeks ago I revealed myself as a chump in that I was taken by a gogo girl for a few thousand baht. I had been with her several times, the sex was awesome, and I was just enjoying it a great deal. So I was rather unprepared to let her go, and she took advantage of this. You can read the report here:
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And everyone thinks that a degree in English Literature is useless.....
Another excellent report, can´t wait to read the continuation.
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kumbu - your tales would make good content in some of the magazines. Just collect them together and have them published as "Adventures in Southeast Asia" (or whatever you would choose to title it)
My tales tend to be in the "Roman short stories" category... "Caeser, squeeze'er, pump'er, dump'er" ;)
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Many thanks for all the advices so far. Do the girs from Superbaby and Supergirl go with farangs? I red somwhere these bars are Japenesse/Corean oriented only.[/QUOTE]I'm Danish and never had a problem bf form either of these bars and I come here A LOT.
They do have many Asian costumers but never been a problem for me. Like most places feel the vipe, behave and enjoy your self.
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Many thanks for all the advices so far. Do the girs from Superbaby and Supergirl go with farangs? I red somwhere these bars are Japenesse/Corean oriented only.[/QUOTE]Superbaby feels like its all Japanese, but I am a farang and have taken lots of these cute girls. They tend to be a little passionless, at least with me. Supergirls is better. Have had many really great nights with girls from there. I like the sponge bath jacuzzi, where you can see exactly what you are getting and can interact a little to get a feeling for personality.
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[QUOTE=Girlover]Superbaby
Supergirls[/QUOTE]
Do both of these places require that you pay everything (barfine + fee for girl) up front?
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]Tipping at Devil's Den
What do you guys think would be a decent tip for the standard 2 girl session?[/QUOTE]I would tip something like:
200 each for average service
300 each for good service
500 each for [b][i]EXCELLENT[/i][/b] service
I would also tip them the same amount even if one was a better performer (the face thing) and have exact change ready.
SunLover
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Superbaby vs. Supergirls
[QUOTE=Girlover]Superbaby feels like its all Japanese, but I am a farang and have taken lots of these cute girls. They tend to be a little passionless, at least with me. Supergirls is better. Have had many really great nights with girls from there. I like the sponge bath jacuzzi, where you can see exactly what you are getting and can interact a little to get a feeling for personality.[/QUOTE]
Based on my own experiences in both places, I have to agree that Supergirls is much better. The difference between the two bars is like night and day. Supergirls is a much better run place because the manager is always there and always stays on top of things. A lot of the girls are very attractive and I have had some pretty nice take out from here.
For some reason or other I have had the opposite experience at Superbaby. One night around 10pm, I went there, bought a beer, and noticed after around 15 minutes that none of the Go Go girls would give me eye contact. I had not seen any girl I was really attracted to, but WTF? I was more astonished than insulted by this odd behavior. In fact, in all my 20 years of travel and fooling around, the only other place where I experienced such foolishness was in Macau at the Lisboa Racetrack. After all, I'm a sexy American man (ha ha ha), clean shaven, well dressed, sober and carrying a large wallet.
I decided to investigate this queer phenomenon further, so I called a pretty waitress over. Actually the waitress was better looking than most of the dancers on stage. I told the waitress to ask one of the dancers if she would come over to my table and have a drink with me. I made this offer purely for research purposes. I had no interest at this point in barfining any of the girls, except maybe the cute waitress. I watched as the waitress forwarded my invitation to the Go Go girl and I saw the look of astonishment on the waitress’s face as the dancer refused my offer. When waitress started to insist that the dancer comply with my request, I interceded and told the waitress to let it go. The waitress apologized to me for the other girl’s rudeness and I thanked her for her effort. I finished my beer and gave a nice tip to my waitress as I left. I then walked over to What's Up and had a great time with a wonderful little girl named Tip.
I am looking forward to going back to Supergirls, Heaven's Above, Baccara, and my personal favorite Pattaya Go Go: What's Up on my next trip. My advice to the forum is to go to these establishments first, be treated right and have a great time before you give Superbaby a try. Next time I am in Pattaya, I will probably check out Superbaby myself just to see if this anti western attitude still prevails. By the way, last time I was in Supergirl in March 2010, I barfined a beautiful girl named Sa. She was a real doll and showed me a great time. Looks - 8*, Attitude - 7*, Service - 7*, and overall ambiance of the bar 8*.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Do both of these places require that you pay everything (barfine + fee for girl) up front?[/QUOTE]I have heard about this before, but have never been asked to pay up front myself (except for bf) neither have my friends.
But they do run a tight ship and prefer to have fixed prices set by the bar. So this might not be the cheapest agogo for a first time visit if you are use to negotiate for lower prices.
Because of the different setup from most other agogos – less hassle/interaction - I think many people tend to bf a little to quickly. Be sure to have a drink and a talk with the girl before deciding if bf to make sure you will have a good time.
Enjoy the beautiful girls in these places.
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[QUOTE=Sunlover2]I would tip something like:
200 each for average service
300 each for good service
500 each for [b][i]EXCELLENT[/i][/b] service
I would also tip them the same amount even if one was a better performer (the face thing) and have exact change ready.
SunLover[/QUOTE]I don't wish to offend anyone or seem rude, but can we all agree to keep tipping where it belongs such as the USA and nowhere else. The whole world is being ruined by this phenonema. I know some people wish to express their appreciation for good service, but how about just a "thankyou".
Think about it, do you tip the counter staff at a fast food place.
How about the bus driver who may take you too and from work everyday? How about the check out staff at a grocery store who quickly price and bag your goods with a smile?
When you go to a service station to buy fuel do you tip the smiling operator who wish's you a "good day" after you've handed over your money?
The list goes on and on and the majority of us would say 'no' to what I've mentioned.
So why tip a girl for a service that she is there to provide?, after all they are selling themselves as a whole and not just their pussy. Ok, she may provide an excellent service compared to others and good on her for doing so. She no doubt would become very popular and busy with repeat clientel, which is why she provides a great service and why others are left on the shelf. (dance floor) where ever it may be.
Once this phenonema starts and continues it'll build up enough steam that it won't slow down and would be expected everywhere you go and see and I'll hate to see a fantastic place like Thailand(especially Pattaya) become reliant and demanding of this.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Based on my own experiences in both places, I have to agree that Supergirls is much better. The difference between the two bars is like night and day. Supergirls is a much better run place because the manager is always there and always stays on top of things. A lot of the girls are very attractive and I have had some pretty nice take out from here.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. Superbaby is not as good as Super Girl. I can also confirm the upfront pay situation. They do indeed ask you to pay up front, but this depends on whether you are a first time customer, and also what you look like. I was told by a girl in no uncertain terms that customers suspected of being of certain nationalities are asked to pay up front, and others are not. This is because men of certain nationalities have earned themselves (and their fellow nationals) a bad name. I don't remember all the ethnicities, but some of them were: Italian, Turkish, Arab, Indian, German, African (of any sort). As you can see, it isn't a white thing (Germans are in this category too), it's based purely on the experience of having some girls be ripped off once in the room.
I looked like one (or all) of these ethnicities, and was asked to pay up front, to which I balked and walked out. This was six months ago, by the way.
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Eng v Ger
Is there any place where ISG members are going to watch England v Germany?
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I always tip for excellent service
[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]
So why tip a girl for a service that she is there to provide?[/QUOTE]
Let's face it, the service we're talking about here is not the run of the mill service. A fantastic experience with one of the ladies you refer to can make the difference between an average or mediocre memory of the place in question and a mind-blowing experience that makes us want to return again and again.
The amount of the tip falls into the category of petty cash for the average monger but makes a significant difference to a girl who's really poor.
I will unashamedly tip for superb service. And, conversely, if the service is awful, I won't give a penny extra.
Let's not all be cheap Charlies. Great / exceptional service deserves to be rewarded over the minimum that's expected.
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What about Black American?
[QUOTE=Kumbu]I agree 100%. Superbaby is not as good as Super Girl. I can also confirm the upfront pay situation. They do indeed ask you to pay up front, but this depends on whether you are a first time customer, and also what you look like. I was told by a girl in no uncertain terms that customers suspected of being of certain nationalities are asked to pay up front, and others are not. This is because men of certain nationalities have earned themselves (and their fellow nationals) a bad name. I don't remember all the ethnicities, but some of them were: Italian, Turkish, Arab, Indian, German, African (of any sort). As you can see, it isn't a white thing (Germans are in this category too), it's based purely on the experience of having some girls be ripped off once in the room.
I looked like one (or all) of these ethnicities, and was asked to pay up front, to which I balked and walked out. This was six months ago, by the way.[/QUOTE]I am just curious.
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[QUOTE=Iron Duke]
The amount of the tip falls into the category of petty cash for the average monger but makes a significant difference to a girl who's really poor.
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Working girls POOR? Bollocks!
Some fuck 2/3 times day at 1500bt+!
Very many earn 50/60,000+ a month, but waste most of it on drugs, gambling and their no good boyfriends. Not the Punters problem. They offer sex for a set price and that is what they should get! A tip is only justified if they are coerced into providing something over and above what was initially agreed (eg bareback, anal etc)
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]I don't wish to offend anyone or seem rude, but can we all agree to keep tipping where it belongs such as the USA and nowhere else. The whole world is being ruined by this phenomena. I know some people wish to express their appreciation for good service, but how about just a "thankyou".
Think about it, do you tip the counter staff at a fast food place.
How about the bus driver who may take you too and from work everyday? How about the check out staff at a grocery store who quickly price and bag your goods with a smile?
When you go to a service station to buy fuel do you tip the smiling operator who wish's you a "good day" after you've handed over your money?
The list goes on and on and the majority of us would say 'no' to what I've mentioned.
So why tip a girl for a service that she is there to provide?, after all they are selling themselves as a whole and not just their pussy. Ok, she may provide an excellent service compared to others and good on her for doing so. She no doubt would become very popular and busy with repeat clientel, which is why she provides a great service and why others are left on the shelf. (dance floor) where ever it may be.
Once this phenonema starts and continues it'll build up enough steam that it won't slow down and would be expected everywhere you go and see and I'll hate to see a fantastic place like Thailand(especially Pattaya) become reliant and demanding of this.[/QUOTE]
Asian Fetish
Have to disagree with you on this issue.
There in no comparison between counter staff, a bus driver or service station attendant and a working girl that has her nose an inch or two from your asshole, getting pummeled by your thrusts, her face plastered by sperm and any of the multiple combination's of perversities.
Sex is a very intimate act involving much more personal service. If a provider can do all of the above with a good attitude and smile she is a Godsend.
Although I am the 1st to negotiate the lowest price for services I find a small tip works wonders for current and future service.
For good service I always offer a small tip. Usually I leave the tip visible from the start of the session so she knows she will be rewarded for her efforts.
I find for repeat sessions or where there are multiple girls in the salon this works wonders for future service. Word gets around and the small investment pays of quite well.
I have NEVER tipped for poor service and have thrown a partially dressed girl out the door in subzero weather in middle of winter in Moscow for shitty service
In most cases the girls are poorly paid and truly need the money.
IMHO. EVERYONE deserves to be paid for good work.
Bad service no tip; get the fuck out of my room.
Do you think it's their wish to be subjected to your desires?
A few baht, rubles, yuan really means little.
Making them feel good about the encounter is a good thing that helps all mongers. IMHO
In 38 years of mongering I have found this works quite well for me.
Just my .02 cents, baht, rubles, yuan ect...
Guido88
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Working girls POOR? Bollocks!
Some fuck 2/3 times day at 1500bt+!
Very many earn 50/60, 000+ a month,
Thanks, bumholes1, that's what I'm talking about.
Girl's that offer more services do actually charge more for it. It's not as if when you coerced her into giving anal that she doesn't normally provide the service. It's just that when you negotiate the low price for her you simply forget to mention that you want anal. Do this first, if the answer is no, then just move along to the next girl, nothing gained and nothing lost. I personally would hate to have in bed a hot, young, willing partner for the night that suddenly say's no to anal, cause I'm an assman and that's the service I want. And those who provide it will benifit from my business and those that don't, will not!
I liken the girl's to icecream parlors(I'm an icecream man aswell), one would offer just vanilla, which is fine if you're a straight vanilla person. Obviously this place would have very little patronage and hence earn less money.
Next door though is another parlor which offers a variety of flavours and sprinkles for alittle extra.
But across the street you notice a parlor that offers full range of flavours, sprinkles plus chocolate dip, at an extra cost of course. (where I would be probably day and night).
So even if I've paid extra for having the 'lot', (well let's say pay more than you would from just having straight vanilla). Should I also tip them for offering it aswell?
And ofcourse I have to mention the one next to this one which offers as above but always has a chocolate flake sticking out of it. (well, each to their own, I personally don't).
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Tip a girl
Guido 88,
I agree with you 100 %. Exactly my opinion.
Lemon Tree
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Working girls POOR? Bollocks!
Some fuck 2/3 times day at 1500bt+!
Very many earn 50/60,000+ a month, but waste most of it on drugs, gambling and their no good boyfriends. Not the Punters problem. They offer sex for a set price and that is what they should get! A tip is only justified if they are coerced into providing something over and above what was initially agreed (eg bareback, anal etc)[/QUOTE]
I do agree with Guido88, sex is an intimate act in between two people. But when we r going to purchase, what happens than? It’s a complete business relation in between seller and buyer. U has to pay as what u get; even it’s a tips. From my experience it doesn’t mean we r unable to get any intimate experience. We both sides r human being and some times we can get some intimate act also; when we r able to prepare a nice chemistry in between us. I do believe that even like a professional we can create a good chemistry to have a satisfied service from the lender.
It’s not that every time I’ve get all I want, sometime I’v failed. The providers are for money and they will try to catch as much as they can; it’s very straight they earn a lot. It never derives that we will not pay for what we have get.
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A question for all those with Pattaya experience. Will be in Pattaya during the second week of July. Would like to meet office girls (secretaries etc.).
Are these girls approachable and where do they hang out?
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Kumbu Breaks Down
this is the continuation of the mega sex marathon i had last friday-sunday with a pretty little thing in pattaya. we had sexed it up for several hours, and i fell asleep without cumming. strange, but true.
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i awoke the next morning to the feel of ripe rump in my hand. she was still asleep, on her side, facing away from me, and my hand had found its way to her backside. i opened my eyes and saw that both my hands were squeezing her backside, one cheek a piece. and she was fast asleep. hmm, i wonder what else i did to her while she was asleep?
little kumbu was standing to attention, and not feeling any different from normal – he was up and ready, no pain, no difficulty, although there was an uneasy tension in the base of my balls. but once again, i felt the need to put my tongue where it does not belong. i'm not sure what has happened over the last month or so, but i used to have a very severe aversion to daty, to say nothing about rimming. in fact, for many years of my mongering career, daty was a strict no-no, on hygienic grounds. see, for example, this post from 2005, where i express my horror at being forced to do daty on a girl in berlin.
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but here i am sticking the tongue where the sun don't shine and not thinking twice about it. but really, it is only with this girl that that has happened, so let's blame her beautiful asshole, shall we?
so i slip down and start to tongue her asshole. i imagined it would taste pretty horrible since she has been asleep for several hours. who knows what happens down there when one sleeps, right? but no, it was super clean and fresh. i just don't get how she stays so fresh. whatever it is, i like it. i work her asshole and she awakens. rather than complaining or protesting, she smiles and says 'aroi may?' of course it is aroi, and you know it darling. to avoid unnecessary repetition, the rimming moved into daty and we went to her first cum of the day. she then jumped up to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], and she returned with a super big smile on her face thanking me for a good wake-up call. we joked about how hotels should offer that service as a wake up call: instead of them calling you at 6am, they should send someone along to suck your pussy or dick until you are wide awake.
she said she was still sensitive, so we had three options: hand job, bbbj, or we wait until she is ready. i thought about it, and the wait option seemed the best. hj i can do myself, and bbbj ain't my thing, especially when the technique is so deficient. so we decided to order breakfast at the hotel.
she had her bacon and eggs, i had my toast and coffee, and afterwards we watched a little tv, her propping her head against my shoulder. it was a sweet little cuddle. but her left breast kept brushing against the outside of my hand, and little kumbu was stirring again. so one thing led to another, and i was sucking her breasts before i knew it. i got under the sheets while she watched tv, and i didn't really care if she was enjoying what i was doing – i just wanted some breast meat. so i sucked for a long, long time, until she finally decided it was time. she reached over for the condoms, but they were out of reach – on the table a good 5 meters away. i said to her 'forget condoms, i will just suck these for the next 10 minutes.' she objected, saying she wants boom-boom, but i lingered at her breasts for a while. she misinterpreted this as me suggesting that if she really wants boom-boom, we should do it bare back. so she eventually says to me something like 'if you really want, we do boom-boom without condom. but i never do, not since i was with my husband.'
well, i'm not sure i believe that. i mean, maybe, but maybe not. but whatever the case, there is no way in hell that i am going bb. i know some guys on this board seek such a 'service' out, but i find it abhorrent. it seems like one of the stupidest things one could do, and why? is it the sense of intimacy that one gets? or the sexual sensitivity? or the thrill of challenging all those viruses and winning (maybe)? whatever the case, i was not going near the bb. so i told her no, got up and grabbed a condom. i stuck it on, and because i was already standing, i just went to the sink and washed the damned lubricant off my hands.
when i returned to the bed, she took my breath away. the bed in the dusit is interesting – it is in the middle of the room, a stand-alone bed, not backed up against the wall. the headboard is a large, bulky leather-covered piece with smooth curves. it is quite comfortable actually. what she had done was laid down on the bed on her back, face up, with her head right up against the headboard. so her head was at the base of the headboard, her back propped up against the headboard, and her legs draped backwards over her. so when i came back, what i saw was her pussy and ass sticking up over the headboard.
so i clambered onto the top of the headboard like tarzan, squatted down and wiggled little kumbu into her pussy. as i did this, i caught a glimpse of myself in the full-wall mirror, and it was delightfully pornographic. it looked like something out of a rocco does bangkok movie, or something of that sort. so i started to fuck her in this most odd of positions, and she was rubbing her tits and groaning. her eyes were closed, and she was just enjoying it mightily.
i was enjoying it somewhat less. i mean, visually it was spectacular (i wish i had a video camera with me!), but it was physically very hard to do. standing on a headboard is precarious to say the least. one slip up and my parents would see the picture of where and how their perverted son broke his neck, lying there with broken neck, hand on crotch, with a stupid grin on his face. furthermore, in order to fuck, i needed to squat up and down, using my legs the whole time. now, i consider myself fit, but given the total lack of conditioning over the last month, and the lack of sleep over the last 48 hours in particular, i was not in my best shape. so i was tiring quickly.
after several minutes of laboring in this great position, i felt i must change, and so reluctantly i succumbed to my physical frailty. note to self: do more squats in the gym. i stepped down onto the bed and she considerately shifted her pussy over with me. she shifted her position so she was lying on her side, and she indicated she wants me to enter her from behind. so i lay down and in went little kumbu. once again, as i was pumping, for whatever reason, i began to question whether i wanted to end it here. as the urge built within me, i considered the time. it must have been late morning by that time, and i was wondering what the rest of the day held for us. could i afford to let her cum without me cumming again? could i hold it any longer? i think i had done pretty well – i we had been screwing for nearly 12 hours at this point, with a short 3-hour nap (i think) in between. but other than that, little kumbu had been soldiering on without so much as a whimper, and he had not cum even once.
so i decided it was time, and this was a good position for me. i slowed my rhythm, and focused on the pleasure of pushing in and out. i grabbed her voluminous ass cheeks, knowing that would get me over the top, and as expected, little kumbu began the inevitable descent into insanity. as this happened, i noticed that her shoulders and back were taught and strained. her back was arching, and it looked great. i placed my right palm on her shoulders and washed across the upper back, running my palm across her soft, undulating skin. my left hand was busy squeezing her ass cheeks, with the thumb gently pressing into her asshole. i thought about her asshole, i thought about her shoulders and back, i thought about her ass cheeks, and the orgasm approached. i had one final decision to make: do i go over the edge or do i pull back like i had so many times over the last 12 hours? no, it was time to go for it. and so i did three more gentle but purposeful pumps and as i did so, the most intense of orgasms followed. neurochemicals poured into my system, my eyes closed, i felt the loss of conscious thought, and my head snapped back in pleasure. i spasmed for a good 30 seconds – that's how long and intense the orgasm was. it was like nothing i have ever felt before – the most perfect and memorable orgasm of my life. i believe it was the prolonging of orgasm that caused such an intense orgasm. furthermore, my ejaculate, which had been meager to say the least over the last two weeks, was full and voluminous. i suspect this is also a product of the prolonged sexual activity. so tantric sex has many benefits, if one can pull it off. i don't think this is an everyday thing for me, but once in a while, it seems like a good idea.
turns out she was also in the midst of an orgasms, just slightly delayed relative to mine, and so once i had finished my orgasm, she was clutching at my hips urging me to pump just a few more time. i indulged her, and she orgasmed for the umpteenth time.
as we lay there, trying to regain our breathing, i suddenly felt a superb affection for the girl. not many working girls in pattaya will do this for you – have such a long, never ending session of variable sex. most of the girls will urge you to finish so they can be on their way. this girl seemed to be genuinely interested in pleasing me, and she was enjoying herself too. i like that. i like her. uh-oh.
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"Uh-oh" is right!
[Quote=Kumbu]This girl seemed to be genuinely interested in pleasing me, and she was enjoying herself too. I like that. I like her. Uh-oh.[/Quote]Kumbu,
Please do yourself and anyone else who reads this thread a big favour, get your head out of your ass and admit to yourself that all you are is a paying customer who spent way above market to get better sex!
This attitude makes us sick to our stomachs as we have read about it in this thread an uncountable number of times ad nauseum!
Let me repeat. You are not special to her. Repeat, you are not special to her and, perhaps just easier of a mark and she holds you in lower esteem because she can read your attraction for her and how pathetic and futile it is!
Sum total. You are just another pathetically desperate monger who gets "smitten" by great paid sex with a thai sp!
Then, in the unnatural progression of things, voluntarily, and with eyes wide open, become addicted to the great sex which, somehow, transcends into an emotional attachment!
Do yourself and all of us a favour by going home and stop writing these self-indulgent, penthouse forumesq reports and face your life for what it really is!
You are just another john, no more, no less!
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Working girls POOR? Bollocks!
Some fuck 2/3 times day at 1500bt+!
Very many earn 50/60,000+ a month, but waste most of it on drugs, gambling and their no good boyfriends. Not the Punters problem. They offer sex for a set price and that is what they should get! A tip is only justified if they are coerced into providing something over and above what was initially agreed (eg bareback, anal etc)[/QUOTE]
Yes, lots of these girls make good money for Thai standards.
In my experience, tips only work well if the girl is somewhat new to the trade. Reward her for good service and she usually learns that providing good service will lead to more money. On the flip side, tipping a hardcore seasoned pro has no effect from my experience. They are so entrenched in their "whroeness" and their minds are so fogged up from being fucked 200 + times, that they will forget about the tip and the john in a few hours(unless you tip 1000+).
All these girls have shelf-lives, and if you get them early in the game, tips can help build a good incentive relationship.
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Tips for the Girl
[QUOTE=Guido88]
Although I am the 1st to negotiate the lowest price for services I find a small tip works wonders for current and future service.
For good service I always offer a small tip. Usually I leave the tip visible from the start of the session so she knows she will be rewarded for her efforts.
I find for repeat sessions or where there are multiple girls in the salon this works wonders for future service. Word gets around and the small investment pays of quite well.
I have NEVER tipped for poor service and have thrown a partially dressed girl out the door in subzero weather in middle of winter in Moscow for shitty service
IMHO. EVERYONE deserves to be paid for good work.
Bad service no tip; get the fuck out of my room.
Do you think it's their wish to be subjected to your desires?
A few baht, rubles, yuan really means little.
Making them feel good about the encounter is a good thing that helps all mongers. IMHO
In 38 years of mongering I have found this works quite well for me.
Just my .02 cents, baht, rubles, yuan ect...Guido88[/QUOTE]
I agree with G88, although I know that not everyone holds with this philosophy. In general, I tip if the girl has made me happy. If she has made me happy, then I want to make her happy. It’s called being nice to one another. It is just that simple. And since the tip is usually not much more than the price of a cheeseburger and fries back home, I do not see what the big deal is. However, I will never tip a girl if she has not made me happy. The question for me is how much should one tip the girl? I start with 10% as my base line. Here are a few examples:
Example #1: I have just been with a Baccara Go Go girl. She is very pretty and smells good. She gave me lots of wet kisses, soapy shower action, BBBJ and I shagged her passionately for 40 minutes. The vibe throughout was very good. I would give her a 200bt to 500bt tip depending on how much I enjoyed sex with her.
Example #2: I just did all of the above with an equally fine hostess girl from a 104st bar in PNH and we did it 2 or 3 times. Her price is $20 - $25 last time I checked. I have tipped girls like her $10 (which is a 50% tip). And note, the next time I went to that bar, I was greeted like I was Brad Pitt.
Example #3: I am with a very pretty Pattaya Walking Street Go Go girl who will not kiss, does not want to take a shower with me, gives me a covered BJ and the sex is so so. I don't tip this girl.
Example #4: I am with a soi 26 massage girl in BKK. She is pretty and gives me a soapy shower, a BBBJ and good sex, but she will not do me a 2nd time even though I still have time left. I do not tip her.
There are hundreds of various situations that arise, but it is a simple philosophy to follow. If you are satisfied, then leave the girl a tip. If you are not satisfied, then forgetaboutit.
One more thing: I like these girls. I choose carefully and my success ratio is pretty good. When I fuck them, I like to fantasize that I am making love to them. Hell, I am making love to them, even though my love lasts only until I cum. But that is why I like to tip the good girls. If some of you guys don’t see it this way, that’s cool with me.
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Asian Fetish,
Man you got me rolling around in my boxer reading your stuff!
First lets get back to the basics here! your remarks was based on Sunlover2 response to a question regarding tipping at Devils Den! This is not your ordinary place to pick up girls like Beer Bar, go go's or Beach Road.
It's all relative but using comparisons like " bus driver, service station operators, fast food, then Ice cream, vanilla, chocolate " whether you should tip them or not maybe a better destination is Water World?
The equation of what the girls make per month per year has no relationship to a particular girl whether one should tip or not. Do we ask what she makes and if she respond I made 50,000 per month and just rock your world you don't tip her? Come on let be realistic here?
Aside from Devils Den tipping, we are talking about a few bahts here not like you agree to service of 500 baht and you tip her 500, aren't we talking 100 or 200 baht? The service at D.D. runs you around 3500/3800 so the scale Sunlover2, provided isn't out of line if the monger wants to tip. Meanwhile we are reading too much into this and assuming behind close door what might have been coerced or not?
Think? am I wrong? I see daily Farangs having drinks at Beer Bars Go Go's, etc... and they leave a tip maybe 20 baht. Was that beer that cold, brought in a certain way that deserves the tip? But I see a tip 9 out of 10 times! Even at Swensen Ice Cream, whether it is Vanilla or Chocolate I see Farangs leave tips, what that Ice Cream so different than at home that a tip was left? I see it daily by each Farangs.
So what is the big deal if someone decides to leave a small tip because they got something " they felt " was above and beyond what they agree on? Were talking about pussy here, pussy that we just spent a Thousand USD, and hours on a Flight to get here not Ice Cream! Now would you tip if you ate that pussy and was surprise that Ice Cream did come out? I would!
Plus, all the examples mentioned they are on hourly wages not basically Freelancers. So it's your choice, if they ask, like they say " up to you " why get into all these crazy example to justify not to!
Amjek, tipping isn't only for the young and new, it works the opposite too, the fat, the old, even the harden old bags that got nothing to give and only sits for hours and days without a customer. One day bang, someone comes along they pick them and to each their own their world is rock! A few kind works like job will done or give a tip for charity whatever? Put aside all the reasons why not! just like overpaying for something a few people isn't going to change the world! But a small tip to most I believe no matter how many times they have been dicked they are still human and not ice cream!
Enjoy everyone, no matter how many times we have been screwed in life remember when you get that Sabai feeling and completion give the poor women a tip!
Just a small tip from LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
remember when you get that Sabai feeling and completion give the poor women a tip!
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Give a tip for any reason other than the fact that they are poor. Feeling pity for these people shows how weak you are, and Thais disrespect weakness.
Thais are some of the most spoiled people I've come across in SE Asia. A lot of this has to do with people basically handing out money for nothing in return (not just for p4p).
I advocate tipping for good service. Maybe 100-200 baht max. None of this 500-1000 baht stuff.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]
Example #3: I am with a very pretty Pattaya Walking Street Go Go girl who will not kiss, does not want to take a shower with me, gives me a covered BJ and the sex is so so. I don't tip this girl.
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And how much did pay for this sterile experience? I've never had a girl in Pattaya suggest a cbj. I've only had girls who refused bj outright. Wow, Pattaya must be changing!
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[QUOTE=Darkman]What about Black American? I am just curious.[/QUOTE] You don't usually find us in the agogos as we prefer the discos.
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]I don't wish to offend anyone or seem rude, but can we all agree to keep tipping where it belongs such as the USA and nowhere else. The whole world is being ruined by this phenonema. I know some people wish to express their appreciation for good service, but how about just a "thankyou".
Once this phenonema starts and continues it'll build up enough steam that it won't slow down and would be expected everywhere you go and see and I'll hate to see a fantastic place like Thailand(especially Pattaya) become reliant and demanding of this.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on this AF. Last month I was having dinner in Amman, Jordan. The bill came which included a service charge. I charged it to my room. When it was time to sign the slip there was a space for a tip as well. What the fuck?
The tourist restaurants in the Dominican Republic are like this as well. You will see a price on the menu, but if you look on the back of the menu you will see that a mandatory tax and a service charge are not included in the price. Should I still pay extra after this?
I always use the "When in Rome" rule. I ask or observe a local to find out how things are done. If I look around and don't see Thais leaving a tip, then guess what? If I am ever unsure about things I don't hesitate to ask the people working the hotel desk.
A tip for doing a good job? Well aren't they supposed to do a good job in the first place so that you will return and give then business again. You should not have to pay them extra for something they should already be expected to do. The tips that I have been giving out lately consist of mini chocolate bars. I buy a bag or two of them before I travel and give them out to such people as working girls, hotel staff, airport staff, even people who just happen to be next to me. It is something that those people appreciate and always remember me for. When I come up they usually remember my name and are happy to see me. When you pass out money you are just another Joe.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
I always use the "When in Rome" rule. I ask or observe a local to find out how things are done.
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Thais do tip working girls, but they don't go overboard like westerners because they aren't as sex starved. Also, Thais don't take their sex workers out in public and spoil them with gifts.
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Pattaya is still the champ
[QUOTE=Amjeck]And how much did pay for this sterile experience? I've never had a girl in Pattaya suggest a cbj. I've only had girls who refused bj outright. Wow, Pattaya must be changing![/QUOTE]
It was the only princess starfish experience of the trip. What a disappointment considering how really hot the girl looked. I met her in Iron Club. I bought her a drink and she seemed to be into it (me and the deed), but things got chilly very quickly once we got back to my hotel room. I did not throw her out after she refused a BBBJ, because I still wanted to tap her pretty little pussy. We shagged for at least 40 minutes, but I would rate the session only 4.5* out of 10*. It was easily the worst lay of my entire 45 day trip through HKG, Macau, BKK and Pat. The damage was 600bt or 700bt barfine and 1000bt for ST. No tip.
All told, I spent 11 days in Pattaya on this trip. I had happy times at Devil’s Den, What’s Up (my favorite), Heaven’s Above, Super Girls, Baccara, and Silver Star (on soi 7 or soi 8, I forget). So you can see I barely experienced the tip of the iceberg. Prior to this 2010 trip, I was last in Pattaya in 2002. Everything changes, but I think Pattaya is still Pattaya, the sex capital of the modern world.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]It was the only princess starfish experience of the trip. What a disappointment considering how really hot the girl looked. I met her in Iron Club. I bought her a drink and she seemed to be into it (me and the deed), but things got chilly very quickly once we got back to my hotel room. I did not throw her out after she refused a BBBJ, because I still wanted to tap her pretty little pussy. We shagged for at least 40 minutes, but I would rate the session only 4.5* out of 10*. It was easily the worst lay of my entire 45 day trip through HKG, Macau, BKK and Pat. The damage was 600bt or 700bt barfine and 1000bt for ST. No tip.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking one for the team and showing that higher price and better looks does not equal better service.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]...But a small tip to most I believe no matter how many times they have been dicked they are still human and not ice cream!
Enjoy everyone, no matter how many times we have been screwed in life remember when you get that Sabai feeling and completion give the poor women a tip!
Just a small tip from LBM[/QUOTE]
Spoken like a real gentleman and a guy who ought to know ...
Thanks for the excellent advice, LBM.
Regards,
Daddy
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[QUOTE=Lexb]Kumbu,
Do yourself and all of us a favour by going home and stop writing these self-indulgent, penthouse forumesq reports and face your life for what it really is!
You are just another john, no more, no less![/QUOTE]
Well actually he's a bit more in that he can write a pretty entertaining acc't of the adventure. Even though some comments are a bit harsh, more than once I thought Kumbu doesn't really understand what he's involved in.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Give a tip for any reason other than the fact that they are poor. Feeling pity for these people shows how weak you are, and Thais disrespect weakness.
Thais are some of the most spoiled people I've come across in SE Asia. A lot of this has to do with people basically handing out money for nothing in return (not just for p4p).
I advocate tipping for good service. Maybe 100-200 baht max. None of this 500-1000 baht stuff.[/QUOTE]
Amjeck,
Personally I have been f--k over more than most in Thailand, and I agree with your statement regarding Thai's being spoiled, we should add in Selfish too! But I'm not going to lower myself and paint everyone with a broad brush as to being weak and whether they respect me or not again I couldn't give a flying f--k again as to what some ignorant person thinks about what I'm doing I try to walk through life doing what is right in my heart and those Thai's that think am weak can go on suffering through life when their leaders fight between themselves (Red and Yellow) thinking about how to keep their own people oppressed. I'm not the one working in the hot sun, or pushing a cart around for hours to make 300 baht a day etc.. I'm f--king the shit out of their women so they can think what they like.
Like your own quote, I also advocate tipping for good service and make no mistake we are talking about pussy right? not Ice Cream, being poor etc... has no bearing on the topic so why is everyone using comparisons unrelated to pussy, and where did I advocate tipping 500/1000. Like you, I go down to Soi 6, and look for the best bang for my buck! When it comes to pussy, I agree on the service but if I cum away with more than I expect " good service " like you I give a "small" tip not 500/1000 baht. Although I look like a Monk I don't tip on the bases if they are poor or not I'm just concern about the pussy!
LBM
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I don't usually defend myself against such attacks, as defense against this is futile. But...
[QUOTE=Lexb]Do yourself and all of us a favour by going home and stop writing these self-indulgent, penthouse forumesq reports and face your life for what it really is!...This attitude makes us sick to our stomachs as we have read about it in this thread an uncountable number of times ad nauseum![/QUOTE]No one is forcing you to read anything. Don't like it, don't read it.
[QUOTE=Lexb]Let me repeat. You are not special to her. Repeat, you are not special to her and, perhaps just easier of a mark and she holds you in lower esteem because she can read your attraction for her and how pathetic and futile it is!...
Sum total. You are just another pathetically desperate monger who gets "smitten" by great paid sex with a thai sp!...
You are just another john, no more, no less![/QUOTE]Fair enough, I have no argument with this - it's an opinion and you are entitled to it. But rather than telling me to shut the fuck up, perhaps you should respond to my reports in a cogent, reasonable manner and correct my errors so that others don't make the same mistakes. Isn't that one of the purposes of this board? Telling me to shut the fuck up isn't necessarily the smartest course of action.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]Even though some comments are a bit harsh, more than once I thought Kumbu doesn't really understand what he's involved in.[/QUOTE]Once again, I have no argument here. I may very well have a skewed perspective on this and all other things in life, but that's me. And I am sure there are others in the world like me, so you gentlemen should comment on this skewed perspective and try to correct it. I am almost done with my reports, so you should all breath a sigh of relief that your eyes will no longer be held open while you are forced to read these long reports. I'm *almost* done...
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]I don't usually defend myself against such attacks, as defense against this is futile. But...
No one is forcing you to read anything. Don't like it, don't read it.
I am sure there are others in the world like me, so you gentlemen should comment on this skewed perspective and try to correct it.
I am just like You Kimbu and your stories are to be a road map for my trip in December.
I am almost done with my reports, so you should all breath a sigh of relief that your eyes will no longer be held open while you are forced to read these long reports. I'm *almost* done...[/QUOTE]
A sad day for me , not being able to read and reread your reports. As for your critics " for a forum about getting laid, it seem some of us on this thread needs to get laid
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Enjoyed your reports immensely..
Kumbu,
I've enjoyed your posts immensely. They are informative, funny, personal, and well-written. I would think I speak for well more than the majority on here. If not, oh well.
I think you have an ability to articulate what many of us think and feel or at least can relate to and it personalizes the reports and, for me, that's why I especially like them.
I find myself almost rolling on the floor at times, too. Thanks again for sharing and feel free to keep it up!
Red
[QUOTE=Kumbu]I don't usually defend myself against such attacks, as defense against this is futile. But.
No one is forcing you to read anything. Don't like it, don't read it.
Fair enough, I have no argument with this. It's an opinion and you are entitled to it. But rather than telling me to shut the fuck up, perhaps you should respond to my reports in a cogent, reasonable manner and correct my errors so that others don't make the same mistakes. Isn't that one of the purposes of this board? Telling me to shut the fuck up isn't necessarily the smartest course of action.
Once again, I have no argument here. I may very well have a skewed perspective on this and all other things in life, but that's me. And I am sure there are others in the world like me, so you gentlemen should comment on this skewed perspective and try to correct it. I am almost done with my reports, so you should all breath a sigh of relief that your eyes will no longer be held open while you are forced to read these long reports. I'm *almost* done.[/QUOTE]
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You have not been elected.
Lexb;
With all due respect, I feel it is not the best choice for you to speak for others. In this forum, you have seen many people praise Kumbu's reports. I am a huge fan, and yes, I like Penthouse Forum. The difference is I believe Kumbu's adventures happened.
Each person has his own tastes. For example, I like shaved girls but there are some in my home forum over in China that would use my preference to start a vigorous discussion, even going so far as to use the word 'mutilation.' However, these discussions do not devolve into personal attacks.
I do not speak for others. However, I would much rather enjoy a debate of opinions here than outright attacks and claims that you represent the majority.
Either you are arrogant beyond belief or you are a troll. Either way, I hope you will reconsider the way you attack this man.
Ira
[QUOTE=Lexb]Kumbu,
Please do yourself and anyone else who reads this thread a big favour, get your head out of your ass and admit to yourself that all you are is a paying customer who spent way above market to get better sex!
This attitude makes us sick to our stomachs as we have read about it in this thread an uncountable number of times ad nauseum!
Let me repeat. You are not special to her. Repeat, you are not special to her and, perhaps just easier of a mark and she holds you in lower esteem because she can read your attraction for her and how pathetic and futile it is!
Sum total. You are just another pathetically desperate monger who gets "smitten" by great paid sex with a thai sp!
Then, in the unnatural progression of things, voluntarily, and with eyes wide open, become addicted to the great sex which, somehow, transcends into an emotional attachment!
Do yourself and all of us a favour by going home and stop writing these self-indulgent, penthouse forumesq reports and face your life for what it really is!
You are just another john, no more, no less![/QUOTE]
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Mr. Kumbu, et al!
[Quote=Kumbu]But rather than telling me to shut the fuck up, perhaps you should respond to my reports in a cogent, reasonable manner and correct my errors so that others don't make the same mistakes. Isn't that one of the purposes of this board? Telling me to shut the fuck up isn't necessarily the smartest course of action.[/Quote][Quote=Ira Johnson]Either you are arrogant beyond belief or you are a troll.[/Quote]Gee Ira, I never libelled you!
[Quote=DownTowner]As for your critics " for a forum about getting laid, it seem some of us on this thread needs to get laid[/Quote]Can't dispute that, DownTowner!
Perhaps I was a little too harsh in critisising Kumbu's reports and I will correct myself in that should have begun my "counter" opinion report with a "disclaimer" so "not to make the same mistake, twice" let me begin this report with:
"The following opinions are the writer's only and do not, in any way, mean to imply that they are shared by others!"
It will also save me from typing numerous "IMOs"!
The minute details of a paid sexual encounter with a Pattaya Thai SP(or, for that matter, any SP at any location in the world!) especially in the long, drawn-out manner you report in, serves no worthwhile purpose except to entice the readers! I'm certain some like to be enticed(like Ira!) but I find no worthwhile purpose in it!
I like to gain knowledge from this website; others like to be entertained(see above)...so be it and describing in detail what you did with any SP does not add to my knowledge base!
After all, we(the thread readers that agree with me, of course!) all have our own ideas on what constitutes good sex and what we would like to do(or have done to us) in a paid(or, for that matter, unpaid!) sexual encounter!
Also, IMO, what you typed thousands of words to describe could have been summed by reporting "I went with ________ to my hotel room and she kept her promise and we had a great night together" Period!
Unless something happened that was above and beyond "same old, same old"(like entering in a thought process for the beginning an emotional attachment to an SP that you just had paid sex with!), to repeat:
[Quote=Kumbu]This girl seemed to be genuinely interested in pleasing me, and she was enjoying herself too. I like that. I like her. Uh-oh.[/Quote].
Red flags go up and this information is definitely worth sharing!
This website's threads would be better served if reports specific to paid sex with SPs,(such as names, vital statistics, locations, prices, availability, opinions on quality of sessions, any problems encountered, etc.!) would be shared in a direct, concise manner without a lot of uninformative "window dressing" added!
Save your "minutial" details script and submit it to Penthouse Magazine, contact details at:
penthousemagazine.com
for "The Penthouse Forum", so "you know who" can read and enjoy them:
[Quote=Ira Johnson]I like Penthouse Forum.[/Quote]Cheers!
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5 photos
Strange things happen in the early morning hours...
I was out and about in central Pattay last Thursday when I decided to pop into [i]Secrets Bar[/i] to watch one of the World Cup matches. I was just sipping a soda and minding my own business when a voluptuous Mukdahan princess parked herself next to me with a dice game and a friendly smile. I knew what she was up to (i.e., working), but I'm not a big football fan, so it was a pleasant distraction.
When I first decided to [i]check bin[/i] my plan was to go home alone. But I guess the princess' magic worked as I paid her bar fine and off we went into the night in search of some Isaan food. We found some chicken, greens, bamboo shoots, fish, sticky rice, etc, and went back to my quiet, little hotel on Soi LK Metro to enjoy it. On the way we stopped at a "7" for some water, and the [i]zaftig[/i] sweetie bought a packaged wet towel, and to my surprise, yogurt(?).
Once well fed and well washed we went deep for a couple of rounds. She was good. At about 3:30am she muttered something in Thai-Lao-glish about a facial. [i]Huh?[/i]
No, not that kind. The insatiable honey wanted to [i]give me[/i] a yogurt facial! I was in a [i]go with the flow mood[/i] by this point in the wee morning, so I laid my head back on a pillow and let her do her thing. In Thailand, there's a first time for everything it seems...
A couple more spirited rounds the next morning, and she was off at the crack of noon. I was left with very smooth cheeks, [i]and[/i] a number of rather mean looking bites on my neck. As I looked at my distorted image in the mirror I can only imagine that the yogurt made her more than a little crazy, and she could not control her inner beast any longer!
A couple of nights later I stopped at [i]Secrets[/i] and I saw her sitting and smiling slyly with another guy (victim?). Nevertheless, despite my black and blue neck, I'll remember my strange little [i]Pattaya Twilight Saga...[/i]on a full moon night!
ps: a few pics from around town for your viewing pleasure
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Support.....
I strongly support Ira's view on the way Kumbu was "attacked". Although I am not a regular contributor to the Thailand forum but I really enjoyed the FR from Kumbu. I found it enlightening whilst at the same time entertaining.
I am sadden by the fact that in this day and age, we cannot just enjoy a good and well-written piece of article or Field Report (FR) without resorting to some form of negative criticism.
Finding someone like Kumbu who still practices the art of good writing is few and far in-between. Can I be so bold as to seek a show of support for Kumbu to continue contributing to the Thailand forum or any other forum in ISG? Kumbu you have my vote with a big Thank you.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]Lexb;
With all due respect, I feel it is not the best choice for you to speak for others. In this forum, you have seen many people praise Kumbu's reports. I am a huge fan, and yes, I like Penthouse Forum. The difference is I believe Kumbu's adventures happened.
Each person has his own tastes. For example, I like shaved girls but there are some in my home forum over in China that would use my preference to start a vigorous discussion, even going so far as to use the word 'mutilation.' However, these discussions do not devolve into personal attacks.
I do not speak for others. However, I would much rather enjoy a debate of opinions here than outright attacks and claims that you represent the majority.
Either you are arrogant beyond belief or you are a troll. Either way, I hope you will reconsider the way you attack this man.
Ira[/QUOTE]
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Kumbu rocks...
[quote=normad2020]...finding someone like kumbu who still practices the art of good writing is few and far in-between. can i be so bold as to seek a show of support for kumbu to continue contributing to the thailand forum or any other forum in isg? kumbu you have my vote with a big thank you. cheers[/quote]thumbs up for kumbu! someday, i'll get to the end of one of his reports...
i think he should write speeches for america's gun-toting sweetheart, sarah palin. he definitely has a lot more intelligent things to say! ;)
maybe he will start writing to the thai wankers association about atm fees?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]And how much did pay for this sterile experience? I've never had a girl in Pattaya suggest a cbj. I've only had girls who refused bj outright. Wow, Pattaya must be changing![/QUOTE]
Yup, the other day, I had a Soi 6 girl turn me down for the bbbj, cbu ok, but no bbbj.
So, I just paid for the LD and walked a couple of bars down to the dancing club (?) and got what I wanted. Easy.
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[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]Lexb;
Either you are arrogant beyond belief or you are a troll. Either way, I hope you will reconsider the way you attack this man.[/QUOTE]For sure, Kumbu does not need us to defend him. His writings give him all the credibility he needs on this forum, and I am astonished that anyone would attack such literate and intelligent (and interesting) posts.
Lexb, looking at your posts however, you seem to travel the world virtually, ie by posting a series of argumentative posts in a whole range of country threads, but with very few (if any) actual experiences... Perhaps you should think about making some positive contributions yourself before you criticize others, and gain some respect?
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Thanks Kumbu
I just wanted to chime in my support for Kumbu's posts which I think are very entertaining. Keep it up (in more ways than one).
I don't post often for fear of my wife ever finding out, but for the guys who like a vuloputous woman, there is a gorgeous one at Tim's named the who has a beautiful sultry face, huge rack, and an amazing Valkyrie tattoo on her lower back. She's the first WG that ever wanted me to help her come after I finished. I thought that was pretty cool that she enjoyed herself as well.
Pattaya is definitely one of the best places in the world (I've been almost everywhere) and I'm jealous of you that get to go back since I might never again have that opportunity. My best to all.
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To Mouse1!
[Quote=Mouse1]Lexb, looking at your posts however, you seem to travel the world virtually, ie by posting a series of argumentative posts in a whole range of country threads, but with very few (if any) actual experiences[/Quote]I am flattered that, who I consider, an excellent ISG poster would "put me in my place"!
Since you don't know me, personally, and don't know exactly where I have or haven't been, I have been to all the places I write about with the exception of Melbourne, Australia and Chisinau, Moldava(but, re-read my reports and do not confuse all my location headings with information and/or opinions given as, on a few occasions, my topic was information requested).
In these two series of opinionated reports, respectively, I gave my personal beliefs about pricing of a particular sexual act and, in the Chisinau thread, responded to, what I considered, a report full of misinformation(actually, lies, is closer to the truth!).
Once again, just my opinion in both, nothing more, nothing less and I don't expect everyone(or anyone) to agree with me but I would be more than happy to change opinions if I was proven incorrect by a contradicting opinion(not just, "mind your own business" or "you don't know what the hell you are talking about", etc.!).
But, Mouse1, attacking me personally by implying that I have contributed little or nothing informational to the website, IMO, is a "cheap shot" and does not represent your usual level of reporting! If you re-read my any of my reports, I hope you will alter your opinion of me, just a little!
Admittedly, I'm not as nearly as good as you but I do try!
Have I angered you that much? If, so, I apologize as I am not mean-spirited by nature but, possibly, to a fault, I try to live my life by thinking in a logical and reasonable manner!
Perhaps, Mouse1, it is a conflict of our interpretation of this website as I rely on it for a source of valuable information and get "put off" when a report goes, what is IMO, way "off topic" with desciptive language with, I consider, no informational value!
Cheers!
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Remember the old saying: "those who can do, and those who can't become critics?" I think that's the major difference between Kumbu, who writes highly entertaining, literate, self-deprecating posts, that have taken him some time and reflection to write, and Lex what's his name, who has probably never left Idaho.
GE
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I for one will miss Kumbu's reports until the next time he is in Thailand.
Most entertaining, and as he says nobody is forced to read them.
At the end of the day all that matters is whether Kumbu was happy with the girls he took and the money he paid. And by all accounts he has many many happy memories of his recent trip to Thailand. In addition many of us over here who don't have the same regular opportunity to "monger" are able to share his exploits.
Good on you Kumbu!
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Another Kumbu fan.
Like many of my fellow mongers I have enjoyed Kumbu’s recent Thailand reports immensely.
Good on you Kumbu!
You made the most of every minute of your stay, enjoyed so, so many different experiences and, more importantly took the time and trouble to post reports so that your fellow mongers could enjoy also.
Although I do not often post in the Thailand section, as I am an “infrequent” visitor to the L.O.S. I have read Kumbu’s recent reports on a daily basis.
His interesting, humorous and informative reports have brightened up many boring days for me and make a welcome change from the “Where can I find a …………” or “How much should I pay for …………..” posts from punters who obviously have not R.T.F.F.
I too have had many experiences where the girl “seemed to be enjoying herself” and where she has stayed well over the previously agreed time.
OK, perhaps the girl in question has been a better than usual actress and giving me what she believed I wanted just to extort a tip but, just perhaps, there are occasions where a P4P encounter can be an enjoyable and pleasant experience for both parties.
Like Kumbu, I also have experienced, what I believe was true affection from (and for) several working girls that I have met over the years.
Just don’t fall IN LOVE with any of them!
Kumbu, if we ever meet I owe you (at least) a beer!!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
P.S.
Anyone know where I can get a,
KUMBU FOR KING!
Tee shirt made ?
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[QUOTE=Hotman 666]
Anyone know where I can get a,
KUMBU FOR KING!
Tee shirt made ?[/QUOTE]
I too tip my hat and wag my tail for Kumbu and his excellent reportage over here in the Thailand threads. So much so in fact that Kumbu becomes the first featured ISG poster in my new Mongers I Admire Series on the Angus Magee Blog.
[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/[/url]
Thanks so much Kumbu for your always fascinating contribution to the ISG forum.
AM
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Not sure if I have been mentioned somewhere in the recent reports by the Sir Kumbu fan club?
Just in case my postings are being tainted with the 'Not really happened category,' this is my take on it.
When you live in a City like Pattaya (which is really just like a village) for many years many strange things can happen. Good and bad. Over the years I have had my share of both. My sexual experiences have been good and bad as well as some probably unbeliveable. The unbeliveables do not happen every day, month or even year. Sometimes the gaps can be years. I do understand that if I write them down in a few sentences they might seem unbeliveable. It's up to the reader to believe what they want to believe. But, everthing I have written has actually happened. The good, the bad and the unbelivable.
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[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Yup, the other day, I had a Soi 6 girl turn me down for the bbbj, cbu ok, but no bbbj.
So, I just paid for the LD and walked a couple of bars down to the dancing club (?) and got what I wanted. Easy.[/QUOTE]
Wow, on soi 6? WTF? What bar was this at? Soi 6, the dirtiest, sleaziest place in Pattaya offering a cbj? Unreal! Boy that is so sad to hear.
On a side note: I've had about 20 girls (all 21yo or younger) from soi 6 in the last several months. About 75% quoted 1000 ST + 300 room and all came down to 700 + 300. 25% quoted 700 + 300 for room and only a few came down to 500 + 300.
Conclusion= times are changing.
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Please don't go away Kumbu........
[QUOTE=Kumbu]
Once again, I have no argument here. I may very well have a skewed perspective on this and all other things in life, but that's me. And I am sure there are others in the world like me, so you gentlemen should comment on this skewed perspective and try to correct it. I am almost done with my reports, so you should all breath a sigh of relief that your eyes will no longer be held open while you are forced to read these long reports. I'm *almost* done...[/QUOTE]
I'm certain that I speak for the vast majority of the members of this forum when I say that your reports will be sorely missed. I've enjoyed every one of them and they've contained valuable advice on hotels, restaurants, transportation, women, bars, gogos, etc., written beautifully by a gifted author. But you also weren't afraid to let your ego go and report your true inner feelings. Your reports drew me in and kept me hanging on every word.
Thank you for your fresh and entertaining perspective too often written about by members who write with what appears to be a 3rd grade education,
Best of luck to you.
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No informational value......
[QUOTE=Lexb]I am flattered that, who I consider, an excellent ISG poster would "put me in my place"!
Since you don't know me, personally, and don't know exactly where I have or haven't been, I have been to all the places I write about with the exception of Melbourne, Australia and Chisinau, Moldava(but, re-read my reports and do not confuse all my location headings with information and/or opinions given as, on a few occasions, my topic was information requested).
In these two series of opinionated reports, respectively, I gave my personal beliefs about pricing of a particular sexual act and, in the Chisinau thread, responded to, what I considered, a report full of misinformation(actually, lies, is closer to the truth!).
Once again, just my opinion in both, nothing more, nothing less and I don't expect everyone(or anyone) to agree with me but I would be more than happy to change opinions if I was proven incorrect by a contradicting opinion(not just, "mind your own business" or "you don't know what the hell you are talking about", etc.!).
But, Mouse1, attacking me personally by implying that I have contributed little or nothing informational to the website, IMO, is a "cheap shot" and does not represent your usual level of reporting! If you re-read my any of my reports, I hope you will alter your opinion of me, just a little!
Admittedly, I'm not as nearly as good as you but I do try!
Have I angered you that much? If, so, I apologize as I am not mean-spirited by nature but, possibly, to a fault, I try to live my life by thinking in a logical and reasonable manner!
Perhaps, Mouse1, it is a conflict of our interpretation of this website as I rely on it for a source of valuable information and get "put off" when a report goes, what is IMO, way "off topic" with desciptive language with, I consider, no informational value!
Cheers![/QUOTE]
When I looked up "No informational value" in the dictionary, the above report showed up.
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Many times, I have read a report, and thought "I should PM or write something in the forum saying what a great / funny / informative / interesting / sad / unfortunate report that was", or whatever the case may be.
Never could be bothered. I file that under "good intentions, but too lazy".
Kumbus reports have been the most fun, enjoyable, interesting reports I have read for a loooooong time. Well written, excellent spelling and grammer (;)), sometimes heart wrenching, but always a good read.
A punter like the rest of us? Of course, nothing more, nothing less. But a punter who can tell a good story. What a lovely change from "where is this", or "how much should I tip", or "this girl loves me, she is different from other girls," and finally, my favorite, "what ATM doesn't charge 150 Bt", etc.
Kumbu's name has come up several times in PM between me and other members, and always in a positive way.
So, Kumbu, thanks for sharing your adventures. Hope there are more to come in the near future, wherever you go next.
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[QUOTE=Lexb]
This website's threads would be better served if reports specific to paid sex with SPs,(such as names, vital statistics, locations, prices, availability, opinions on quality of sessions, any problems encountered, etc.!) would be shared in a direct, concise manner without a lot of uninformative "window dressing" added!
Save your "minutial" details script and submit it to Penthouse Magazine, contact details at:
penthousemagazine.com
for "The Penthouse Forum", so "you know who" can read and enjoy them:
Cheers![/QUOTE]
I agree. I'm bothered to start reading a post only to find how some guy is soooo happy to have gotten laid and fallen in love. He has to describe in detail about the whole experience like he's never gotten laid in his whole life.
Who gives a fuck? I don't. I'm interested in new pussy deals and where they can be obtained.
This is about getting pussy. Prices, places, and services provided is all I'm interested in.
The more objective the post the better.
On the flip side, you can always click the ignore button and weed out the love birds! LOL !Happy Hunting!
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Kumbu, keep it up
You said it best in that if people don't like your posts then they don't have to read them.
It's the gays that fingr point and create arguments that should be reported and they wil be droped down to regular member. Look at how many I's are in their reports. So selfish.
Will be in Pattaya in 1 week and curious about the freelance action on beach road. Anyone have a recent observation with ratings and prices?
thanks
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lex, it's like this, mate - "pood Thai dai?" If it's "mai dai" then you certainly don't exactly have a lot to contribute to the discussion.
The only people I criticize are those who don't contribute USEFUL information (and, to be honest, I have even done a few reports that fall into that category, so "I are one, too").
So... let's all just get on with it and get over it (wounded pride and all that...)
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Back to more important issues...
[QUOTE=Lexb]I am flattered that, who I consider, an excellent ISG poster would "put me in my place"!
Since you don't know me, personally, and don't know exactly where I have or haven't been, I have been to all the places I write about with the exception of Melbourne, Australia and Chisinau, Moldava(but, re-read my reports and do not confuse all my location headings with information and/or opinions given as, on a few occasions, my topic was information requested).
In these two series of opinionated reports, respectively, I gave my personal beliefs about pricing of a particular sexual act and, in the Chisinau thread, responded to, what I considered, a report full of misinformation(actually, lies, is closer to the truth!).
Once again, just my opinion in both, nothing more, nothing less and I don't expect everyone(or anyone) to agree with me but I would be more than happy to change opinions if I was proven incorrect by a contradicting opinion(not just, "mind your own business" or "you don't know what the hell you are talking about", etc.!).
But, Mouse1, attacking me personally by implying that I have contributed little or nothing informational to the website, IMO, is a "cheap shot" and does not represent your usual level of reporting! If you re-read my any of my reports, I hope you will alter your opinion of me, just a little!
Admittedly, I'm not as nearly as good as you but I do try!
Have I angered you that much? If, so, I apologize as I am not mean-spirited by nature but, possibly, to a fault, I try to live my life by thinking in a logical and reasonable manner!
Perhaps, Mouse1, it is a conflict of our interpretation of this website as I rely on it for a source of valuable information and get "put off" when a report goes, what is IMO, way "off topic" with desciptive language with, I consider, no informational value!
Cheers![/QUOTE]Ha ha! Flattery will always win me over! :) And actually I didn't mean to imply that you hadn't been to those places; it was just my poor grammatical style. So apologies for that.
Let's just agree to differ, but as Kumbu says, you don't have to read the reports, and I for one think the world would be a poorer place without them.
Meanwhile, does anyone know of an ATM where I can withdraw cash without being charged?
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Kumbu Signs Off from the Pattaya Thread...for now
Gentlemen,
Someone once described my writing style as literary masturbation. I think this pisses some people off, and I understand why. I prefaced my month of reports with the following note,
[post]1025003[/post]
in which I warned people that my reports may not suite everyone's taste. That last paragraph was particularly prophetic.
I think it is time we moved on from this discussion, but not before I do two things. The first is to give a HUGE thanks to all of you who spoke up in my support. I really do appreciate it. It is gratifying to know that my reports were of interest to at least some of you. Second, I want to sum up my thoughts on what this little spat has brought to light. After that, I will move on – I promise. I have two more reports left to post (both on the BKK thread), and then I will be done.
So. To sum up my thoughts, here are some quotes and some quick responses to them.
[QUOTE=Lexb]The minute details of a paid sexual encounter with a Pattaya Thai SP...especially in the long, drawn-out manner you report in, serves no worthwhile purpose...[/QUOTE]Wrong.
[QUOTE=Lexb]This website's threads would be better served if...[/QUOTE]Wrong again.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]This is about getting pussy...The more objective the post the better.[/QUOTE]Different member, but still wrong.
[QUOTE=Hypothetical Kumbu]The only thing worth reading about on this thread is touchy-feely emotional descriptions.[/QUOTE]Different (hypothetical) member, and still wrong.
All these quotes show people assuming that their opinion is universal. Just because *I* want pussy, pussy, pussy, then everyone must also want the same thing. Just because *I* dislike your reports, the website's threads would be better served...And this is further supported by remarks such as these:
[QUOTE=Lexb]I find no worthwhile purpose in it![/QUOTE]Correct.
[QUOTE=Lexb]describing in detail what you did with any SP does not add to my knowledge base![/QUOTE]Correct.
I am sometimes offended by some of the things said by some people (e.g., “Thai girls are only good for fucking! Take em to your room , fuck em, then kick em out. Repeat cycle!”), but not once have I ever told a member that such reports are useless or unwarranted or have no place here. These are opinions, and they will be useful to some people (not me, but to some), and so they should be aired.
Gentlemen, we are all different. Angus Magee, in his most excellent blog (to which there is a link below, and which I highly recommend) has a post about how he can't help but get emotionally involved with P4P girls. This despite knowing full well that nothing will come of it – that he is probably being played by the girls. This is essentially the way I am. Reading his posts and blog, I find solace in knowing that there is at least one other who shares my experience. And if there are two of us, there must be more. This means that such experiences (emotionally charged or otherwise) are a genuine part of this activity we engage in. Just because money exchanges hands does not make me into an automaton. And the fact that some of us engage in this activity in this manner (and not in the pussy, pussy, pussy method espoused by the gentlemen quoted above), makes it relevant. Whether they like it or not.
There is only one person who can tell anyone here what is appropriate on this forum, and that is Jackson. The day he tells me to cut it out, out it shall be cut.
Finally, the various fora of the ISG each have their own vibe, each dictated by the members who populate it. The Thailand forum is populated by a lot of genuine, serious, thoughtful, honest, supportive and knowledgeable gentlemen, and it is these people who provide the bulk of useful posts. But for whatever reason, there is a culture of aggression on this forum that I just don't understand. People cut others down for no productive reason. It's almost as if there is an army of angry men sitting by their computers waiting for someone to post anything, ready to pounce on them and rip them to shreds. Why? Here's a rather pointless example:
My innocuous post:
[post]1025827[/post]
Someone criticizing, with not an ounce of useful information:
[post]1025877[/post]
Me defending my post as being worthwhile (why do I have to do this??)
[post]1026136[/post]
A fine gentleman pointing out that there is no reason to be destructive.
[post]1026181[/post]
So my final thoughts are that I think some on this thread, and the Thailand forum more broadly, are not tolerant or thoughtful of other perspectives. They assume too quickly that theirs is the only legitimate point of view. And that, my friends, in my opinion, is not the kind of forum we should settle for. Many thanks for your indulgence, and many thanks once again for your comments of support.
I am not quite finished - I have two more reports coming up on the BKK thread, and then I will seek comfort in the hollows of my work...until my return to the Land of Beautiful Legs, at which point I vow to report my experiences with as much emotional, subjective, gloriously visceral detail as I can muster.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]The Thailand forum is populated by a lot of genuine, serious, thoughtful, honest, supportive and knowledgeable gentlemen, and it is these people who provide the bulk of useful posts. But for whatever reason, there is a culture of aggression on this board that I just don't understand. People cut others down for no productive reason. It's almost as if there is an army of angry men sitting by their computers waiting for someone to post anything, ready to pounce on them and rip them to shreds. [/QUOTE]Kumbu, I agree, although I think the good far outweighs the bad... But it is widespread on the internet: the computer equivalence of road-rage. We are protected by a little glass screen and feel free to lash out at anyone with differing views. I've done it myself, to my undying shame. And occasionally I think there is value in stamping on some of the more repugnant views expressed very occasionally, which you identified earlier, if only to ensure that new readers don't think that such views are acceptable. But that's just me. Hopefully one of the legacies of your reports and the ensuing debate is the realisation that there is plenty of room for differing opinions.
(Interestingly, I have a difficult meeting to go to in a couple of hours, at which I may go as far as to describe one co-worker as 'unprofessional' or 'unhelpful'. In fact I am seething with rage inside. But that is the real world, and perhaps we would do well to remember some of the real-world niceties.)
Anyway, Kumbu, before I get accused of being touchy-feely, great reports, and I'm really pissed off that we didn't get a chance to meet in BKK. Perhaps next time.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Meanwhile, does anyone know of an ATM where I can withdraw cash without being charged?[/QUOTE]Well as a matter of fact, I DO!
Just yesterday on Soi 3 just off Sukhummvit Soi 21 at the AEON (you may have heard of them) Branch in Ocean Tower I did withraw 16,000 baht for NO FEE! (4 withrawals a month is just like a free blow job every month!)
But wait! It wasn't as easy as all that. As I approached the vacant alter of no fees, the little alter guard name of Noi, saw that I held in my hand an ordinary Visa ATM card that did not say AEON anywhere on it. She stopped me. You ARE NOT going to put that thing in this slot! My head spun all the way around. WTF??? I thought I was divorced 5 years ago.
But, this being the land of smiles, IF you've got the money, I promised her a nice tip if she allowed me to put the thing in her slot.
She said "I know you are a charter member of the ISG ATM Wankers. Make it 1000 and I'll wank you with this yogurt that I was just going to have for lunch. How could I resist?
And, thanks for asking.
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Impertinence!
Gentlemen I'm shocked - after some eight years of visiting Pattaya and paying only for service rendered, I was hit up for a 'loan'. After some chit chat about when I would next be visiting Pattaya, I was asked by SMS for 1,000 baht, requested to be deposited into the woman's bank account, as a kind of emergency advance on services-to-be-provided.
Of course I didn't respond, though I was very disappointed as the girl is probably the top five service providers I've ever come across.
I feel so dirty - I never gave her any reason to think I'd be a patsy, other than tipping her 100-200 baht.
Really too bad because a tip-top girl in terms of service, one of the five best I've ever had.
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Well kumbu, I actually enjoy reading your posts which are informative I've found. To read and aknowledge the situation and feelings which you seem so easily capable to type into words for the rest of us to read is astonishing, and I sincerly congratulate you for doing so.
All this coming from a well travelled and experienced monger such as yourself, I seldon to think what lays ahead for myself since this would be my maiden voyage to LOS.
Sure, alot of us males would admit the reason for going is mostly for the pussy, that perfect shape and form that only a short, slightly dark skinned, petite, almond eyed, full lipped thai girl can produce.
But what about the other reason why we go there that we don't really mention, which I can just imagine the hate posts,.companionship. Surely her being a great fuck and her pussy tasting so good isn't the only reason why we'd LT her night after night again. (oh, well, maybe.)
By the way LittleBigMan, I'm so relieved you were rolling around laughing in your boxers, 'cause I would of been paranoid if you were naked. Hehehehahaha
Really, I'm glad to know someone enjoyed my metaphorical use of ice cream.
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Back To Basics?
A couple of months before my trips I usually research the threads to see what is going on, clubs, name of gals, hotels, etc. However, I see, more and more, anything with even a little value. I am not sure it is even worth it to remain a member.
Just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=Henryv]A couple of months before my trips I usually research the threads to see what is going on, clubs, name of gals, hotels, etc. However, I see, more and more, anything with even a little value. I am not sure it is even worth it to remain a member. [/QUOTE]Cool. I look forward to your reports with great excitement.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]Gentlemen,
Someone once described my writing style as literary masturbation. I think this pisses some people off, and I understand why. I prefaced my month of reports with the following note,
[post]1025003[/post]
in which I warned people that my reports may not suite everyone's taste. That last paragraph was particularly prophetic.
I think it is time we moved on from this discussion, but not before I do two things. The first is to give a HUGE thanks to all of you who spoke up in my support. I really do appreciate it. It is gratifying to know that my reports were of interest to at least some of you. Second, I want to sum up my thoughts on what this little spat has brought to light. After that, I will move on – I promise. I have two more reports left to post (both on the BKK thread), and then I will be done.
So. To sum up my thoughts, here are some quotes and some quick responses to them.
Wrong.
Wrong again.
Different member, but still wrong.
Different (hypothetical) member, and still wrong.
All these quotes show people assuming that their opinion is universal. Just because *I* want pussy, pussy, pussy, then everyone must also want the same thing. Just because *I* dislike your reports, the website's threads would be better served...And this is further supported by remarks such as these:
Correct.
Correct.
I am sometimes offended by some of the things said by some people (e.g., “Thai girls are only good for fucking! Take em to your room , fuck em, then kick em out. Repeat cycle!”), but not once have I ever told a member that such reports are useless or unwarranted or have no place here. These are opinions, and they will be useful to some people (not me, but to some), and so they should be aired.
Gentlemen, we are all different. Angus Magee, in his most excellent blog (to which there is a link below, and which I highly recommend) has a post about how he can't help but get emotionally involved with P4P girls. This despite knowing full well that nothing will come of it – that he is probably being played by the girls. This is essentially the way I am. Reading his posts and blog, I find solace in knowing that there is at least one other who shares my experience. And if there are two of us, there must be more. This means that such experiences (emotionally charged or otherwise) are a genuine part of this activity we engage in. Just because money exchanges hands does not make me into an automaton. And the fact that some of us engage in this activity in this manner (and not in the pussy, pussy, pussy method espoused by the gentlemen quoted above), makes it relevant. Whether they like it or not.
There is only one person who can tell anyone here what is appropriate on this forum, and that is Jackson. The day he tells me to cut it out, out it shall be cut.
Finally, the various fora of the ISG each have their own vibe, each dictated by the members who populate it. The Thailand forum is populated by a lot of genuine, serious, thoughtful, honest, supportive and knowledgeable gentlemen, and it is these people who provide the bulk of useful posts. But for whatever reason, there is a culture of aggression on this forum that I just don't understand. People cut others down for no productive reason. It's almost as if there is an army of angry men sitting by their computers waiting for someone to post anything, ready to pounce on them and rip them to shreds. Why? Here's a rather pointless example:
My innocuous post:
[post]1025827[/post]
Someone criticizing, with not an ounce of useful information:
[post]1025877[/post]
Me defending my post as being worthwhile (why do I have to do this??)
[post]1026136[/post]
A fine gentleman pointing out that there is no reason to be destructive.
[post]1026181[/post]
So my final thoughts are that I think some on this thread, and the Thailand forum more broadly, are not tolerant or thoughtful of other perspectives. They assume too quickly that theirs is the only legitimate point of view. And that, my friends, in my opinion, is not the kind of forum we should settle for. Many thanks for your indulgence, and many thanks once again for your comments of support.
I am not quite finished - I have two more reports coming up on the BKK thread, and then I will seek comfort in the hollows of my work...until my return to the Land of Beautiful Legs, at which point I vow to report my experiences with as much emotional, subjective, gloriously visceral detail as I can muster.[/QUOTE]
Kimbu
Post on with your slightly sordid literary prose.
You show appreciation, style and at most times an interesting flavor of the mongering arts. Brown saga excluded......
Personally anyone who enjoys the art of wh.ore mongering as much as you do should be applauded.
Just my .02 baht.
Guido88
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Info
dear all,
i’m planning a short, first time visit to pattaya, and little by little i’ve read about 150 pages worthy of posts. while as usual the board is invaluable for gathering infos, there are plenty of questions and curiosities one can come up with.
here are a few which obviously interest me, but that at the same time i humbly believe would be informative for others as well.
here i go, in no particular order:
1- is there one or more go-go bars where the atmosphere is so over the top that a shameless customer could take off his clothes and jump in the pool/jacuzzi with the girls?
i’ve read about this happening, so i wonder how ok would that be with the management, i guess you’d have to ask for permission first anyway, any suggested money exchange involved, whatever.
2- along the beach road, walking at average speed and with no stops, how long does it take to get from soi 6 to the beginning of walking street? (for accomodation hunting purposes)
3- of the little islands close to pattaya, which one meets the two conditions of being no more than an hour away and have the most “tropical paradise” feel?
thanks in advance,
ryo
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Kumbu, given your thoughtful, introspective and literate posts, I'd be interested in learning your take on the endless debate between Thailand and the Philippines. If your work or your predilections ever take you this way, please let me know. I'd be happy to join you during part of your visit.
GE
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Gentlemen I'm shocked - after some eight years of visiting Pattaya and paying only for service rendered, I was hit up for a 'loan'. After some chit chat about when I would next be visiting Pattaya, I was asked by SMS for 1,000 baht, requested to be deposited into the woman's bank account, as a kind of emergency advance on services-to-be-provided.
Of course I didn't respond, though I was very disappointed as the girl is probably the top five service providers I've ever come across.
I feel so dirty - I never gave her any reason to think I'd be a patsy, other than tipping her 100-200 baht.
Really too bad because a tip-top girl in terms of service, one of the five best I've ever had.[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised you're shocked!
It's just a matter of time before a sex worker harden beyonds the point of no return. Eventually, you just got to let some of the good ones go. There's another that will fill her spot. The bench needs to be cleaned off every now and then.
Remember, all "gold" in thailand eventually turns into tin.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]. But for whatever reason, there is a culture of aggression on this forum that I just don't understand. People cut others down for no productive reason. It's almost as if there is an army of angry men sitting by their computers waiting for someone to post anything, ready to pounce on them and rip them to shreds. Why?
[/QUOTE]
Thailand is a rough place (despite what most people say). If you're not tough, your bound to lose in more than one way. Maybe you're interpreting the toughness of some posters as aggression?
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Gentlemen I'm shocked - after some eight years of visiting Pattaya and paying only for service rendered, I was hit up for a 'loan'. After some chit chat about when I would next be visiting Pattaya, I was asked by SMS for 1,000 baht, requested to be deposited into the woman's bank account, as a kind of emergency advance on services-to-be-provided.
Of course I didn't respond, though I was very disappointed as the girl is probably the top five service providers I've ever come across.
I feel so dirty - I never gave her any reason to think I'd be a patsy, other than tipping her 100-200 baht.
Really too bad because a tip-top girl in terms of service, one of the five best I've ever had.[/QUOTE]
You think it is worth with bargirls? You should try meeting normal girls on dating sites. They come across as very nice but will never loose a chance to hit you up for money for this and that. I had a GF from Petchaboon. Initially she was very nice. Soon she wanted money for a variety of reasons.
This only shows never to get too close with the girls irrespective of the good sex and companionship they give. Detached relationship works best especially with bargirls.
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Beach Road temporarily ruined
Beach Road has been ruined tonight and for the next three nights due to some asinine 'fair'. Instead of selling the one thing we all want, they're using the venue to sell the same cheap, worthless junk being sold everywhere else in Thailand. So I haven't been able to get laid today.
Regarding girls asking for money - I wasn't shocked that the girl was 'hardened' or a beggar or con artist, guys. I was just shocked that she would think me a mark. I usually exude the impression of such monumental cheapness that I never get asked (even asking me for 50 baht for 'the taxi' is like pulling teeth).
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[quote=ryo saeba]2- along the beach road, walking at average speed and with no stops, how long does it take to get from soi 6 to the beginning of walking street? (for accomodation hunting purposes)ryo[/quote]
30min, soaked in sweat. or, you have the option of baht bus, 20b. you can stay at the queen vic, soi 6. comes recommended.
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[QUOTE=Noddy]30min, soaked in sweat. Or, you have the option of Baht bus, 20B. You can stay at the Queen Vic, Soi 6. Comes recommended.[/QUOTE]
The price of a baht bus fare is [b]10[/b] baht. Someone's been cheating you!
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[QUOTE=Noddy]30min, soaked in sweat. Or, you have the option of Baht bus, 20B. You can stay at the Queen Vic, Soi 6. Comes recommended.[/QUOTE]
20bt!!! WTF!
Jump on and jump off and pay 10bt. Note Thais would only pay 5bt!!!
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[quote=ryo saeba]
1- is there one or more go-go bars where the atmosphere is so over the top that a shameless customer could take off his clothes and jump in the pool/jacuzzi with the girls?
i’ve read about this happening, so i wonder how ok would that be with the management, i guess you’d have to ask for permission first anyway, any suggested money exchange involved, whatever.
2- along the beach road, walking at average speed and with no stops, how long does it take to get from soi 6 to the beginning of walking street? (for accomodation hunting purposes)
3- of the little islands close to pattaya, which one meets the two conditions of being no more than an hour away and have the most “tropical paradise” feel?
thanks in advance,
ryo[/quote]
1) i've only been to approx 20 out of the 60 or 70 go-go bars in pattaya. the raunchiest one i've been to is probably the silver star a-go-go 2 (or 3? there are 3 of them; one on walking street, one on soi 8, and one on soi 8/1). i thought the one on the soi closer to walking street was more raunchy. these go go bars has the jacuzzi scene where you can tip to lick the girl's pussy in public (they also have good lesbian shows on stage-not the fake ones you see at suzy wongs on soi cowboy). i've never seen customeers jump naked into the jacuzzi, but i have seen customers on stage semi-naked. the staff will probably allow you on stage for a couple of minutes. unless you tip or ring the bell (money talks). there are some bars you won't be able to do that because customers like me don't want to see naked guys on stage/jacuzzi.
2) it's a long walk on a hot day. i would constantly take the 10 baht bus. here is a detailed map: [url]http://www.thaiwaysmagazine.com/pattaya_map/pattaya_map_pattaya.html[/url]
here is a map with a scale: [url]http://www.thailandmaps.net/pattaya/pattaya_map.html[/url]
the second map's scale says it is a little more than 2 kilometers (i thought it was longer than that; on a hot day, it is).
3) there's couple of islands close by (coral island?). can't remember the names. it will be all standard. all the travel agents in pattaya will have the same day tour options.
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[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba]1- Is there one or more go-go bars where the atmosphere is so over the top that a shameless customer could take off his clothes and jump in the pool/jacuzzi with the girls? I’ve read about this happening, so I wonder how ok would that be with the management, I guess you’d have to ask for permission first anyway, any suggested money exchange involved, whatever.[/QUOTE]I submitted a report back in February in which I describe just such a situation at Dollhouse on WS.
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I have since been back, and the jacuzzi is still there, with two lively girls, but the vibe in that place wasn't quite what it was back in Feb. You might give it a try nonetheless.
The atmosphere in there was not lively before the guy stripped down and jumped into the jacuzzi - he kind of made the atmosphere himself. So you need to be willing to take the risk, I think.
I'm not sure how he managed to do what he did, but the group of guys who came in that night spent a lot of money in the bar, as my report suggests. I would say if you talk to mama san straight up and tell her exactly what you want, she will tell you either 'daay' or 'may daay', and that's that. You then need to decide whether the exorbitant figure she quotes you is worth it to you.
And I second Greenbud's assessment that Silverstar agogo is pretty raunchy. I got propositioned several times to lick, stick and flick holes of different sorts while there on my sole visit to the place. I think this was the one on soi 8/1 (could be wrong).
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[quote=ryo saeba]dear all,
i’m planning a short, first time visit to pattaya, and little by little i’ve read about 150 pages worthy of posts. while as usual the board is invaluable for gathering infos, there are plenty of questions and curiosities one can come up with.
here are a few which obviously interest me, but that at the same time i humbly believe would be informative for others as well.
here i go, in no particular order:
1- is there one or more go-go bars where the atmosphere is so over the top that a shameless customer could take off his clothes and jump in the pool/jacuzzi with the girls?
i’ve read about this happening, so i wonder how ok would that be with the management, i guess you’d have to ask for permission first anyway, any suggested money exchange involved, whatever.
2- along the beach road, walking at average speed and with no stops, how long does it take to get from soi 6 to the beginning of walking street? (for accomodation hunting purposes)
3- of the little islands close to pattaya, which one meets the two conditions of being no more than an hour away and have the most “tropical paradise” feel?
thanks in advance,
ryo[/quote]
i can answer question 1&2, 1) ag-gos atomsphere can vary from night to night. a friend and i had a great night in what's up and there is a lot to be said for some of the agogo bars in soi diamond. airport usually is good and i once saw a guy pass out drunk get something shove up his ass by one of the girls. back in may i found agogo off walking street where some of the girls were handing out bj for 100bt and a ladydrink, but they don't blow you for long so if u want to cum, it can get expensive. plus multiples of girls will take their turn and if you're not careful they will try to pad your bill at the end of the night.
2) you can walk to soi 6 along beach road and 30- 40mins would be about right. i usually (as mentioned), take the bus up to big c and peruse some of the bars on the walk back to soi 6, about 5mins. soi 6 is a meat market so be careful and choose your girl wisely. don't get drag off he street by the first girl to approach you and try not to let them know you're new.
i've never been to koh lan,only visited koh samet in may, it was a holiday in thailand and the island was full of thais on holiday and some russian. i took along my own girl but from what i saw there, the quality of girls was very low.
hope this helps.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Beach Road has been ruined tonight and for the next three nights due to some asinine 'fair'. Instead of selling the one thing we all want, they're using the venue to sell the same cheap, worthless junk being sold everywhere else in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
+1. During the day they're parking cars next to the stalls, effectively reducing Beach Road to just one moving lane and causing big back-ups. And the stalls take most of the sidewalk space. So baht buses are slow, any driving is slow, and walking is a crowded hassle (a bit like trying to get from point A to point B along Sukhumvit, except the wares being sold aren't really of much interest to farangs). Just when I thought they might've learned a smidgen from past planning mistakes...
Unrelatedly, just when I thought I'd seen everything in some 18 years of going, last night some customer in Xzone put on a latex glove and fisted the girl on stage. He got maybe 8-9 inches in, I'd guess (not enough for the girl to pass a German porn audition, but it's the first time I'd seen it tried here). Girls on that stage do a number of penetrative things with toys, but evidently they found one who'll really stretch.
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[QUOTE=Ploughman]+1. s...
Unrelatedly, just when I thought I'd seen everything in some 18 years of going, last night some customer in Xzone put on a latex glove and fisted the girl on stage. He got maybe 8-9 inches in, I'd guess (not enough for the girl to pass a German porn audition, but it's the first time I'd seen it tried here). Girls on that stage do a number of penetrative things with toys, but evidently they found one who'll really stretch.[/QUOTE]
Where does one find X-Zone please
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This:
[url]http://www.pattayabarguide.com/[/url]
mght be helpful
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Where does one find X-Zone please[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]20bt!!! WTF!
Jump on and jump off and pay 10bt. Note Thais would only pay 5bt!!![/QUOTE]
Alas an awful lot of Thais are paying 10 baht, as far as I've observed. Which isn't surprising as most Baht buses in Isaan (Khon Kaen, etc.) run around 7-8 baht nowadays.
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Where does one find X-Zone please[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.pattaya-bars.net/xzone-location.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Alas an awful lot of Thais are paying 10 baht, as far as I've observed. Which isn't surprising as most Baht buses in Isaan (Khon Kaen, etc.) run around 7-8 baht nowadays.[/QUOTE]
Yep, I can confirm this also. Thais are paying 10 baht. Sometimes I see school children pay 5, but not adults.
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Why wait. If you research my reports (I visit the Philippines more often than Thailand) and judge for yourself whether or not I provide concrete information, as opposed to self-aggrandizements.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Cool. I look forward to your reports with great excitement.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Henryv]Why wait. If you research my reports (I visit the Philippines more often than Thailand) and judge for yourself whether or not I provide concrete information, as opposed to self-aggrandizements.[/QUOTE]I did, and they are fine reports. Hence my statement.
It just seems more useful to improve the overall quality of the forum by writing some good informative reports rather than complaining about the absence of such reports...
Just my humble opinion.
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baht bus and x zone
Will cover two topics in one posting. Back in Feb. had taken the baht bus up to Big C area. got out and gave the driver 10 baht and started to eave. He didn't say anything to me. Two Russian girls who were tourists also got out. He tried to charge them 20 baht. I yelled at them it was only 10 baht. This guy goes crazy with the yelling at me. I think the girls ended up giving 10 baht each. Just give them 10 baht and walk away.
Was in the xzone one night and had the pleasure of putting the banana into the never land. While moving it around it broke. No problem as she just reached in and pulled the rest out.. Then she handed me a dildo and wanted it placed in the hole.. Of course I agreed and placed it properly in her. Stroking it back and forth for her pleasure. Next time I want ot see the fisting as I must have been there at the wrong time or a new talent might have arrived since Feb. Anyway , enjoy your fun.
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[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba]Dear all,
1- Is there one or more go-go bars where the atmosphere is so over the top that a shameless customer could take off his clothes and jump in the pool/jacuzzi with the girls?
I’ve read about this happening, so I wonder how ok would that be with the management, I guess you’d have to ask for permission first anyway, any suggested money exchange involved, whatever.
Ryo[/QUOTE]I was in Champagne agogo on Soi LK Metro about a month ago when a guy appeared naked in the shower with the girls. The guy had a real boner on him the girls were more than happy to jerk it about, though I didn't see him cum.
Three soggy 100 baht bills were plastered to the glass wall dividing the shower from the bar so I surmise he paid 300 baht for his pleasure.
The chap next to me said it happens all the time, though it was a first for me.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Yep, I can confirm this also. Thais are paying 10 baht. Sometimes I see school children pay 5, but not adults.[/QUOTE]
Just on the baht bus, here's another thing.
Recently there has been an increase of pick pockets operating on the bus.
Here is my experience and sequence of events.
I was travelling on a near empty bus (me and another foreigner) along 2nd Road.
A girl of around 16 boarded and sat extremely close to me, depite there being plenty of room.
Another 20 meters along, 2 more girls of similar age also boarded and sat either side of the other passenger opposite.
Note; all girls gave the impression of not knowing each other.
From the corner of my eye, I noticed the girl next to me looking directly at my face.
I had the feeling of movement around my leg and put my hand there and felt for my wallet, which was still there. The girl looked away.
Meanwhile, opposite, the other pax was quite jovial and chatting to one of the girls, commenting on the heat. She began to fan him using a brochure she was carrying. Most probably a technique to distract him.
Note; the girl next to me and the girl on the other side of the pax had bags accross their laps. It appears they use their arm furthest away from the pax and use a bag as cover and reach accross.
Anyway, abruptly, the girls buzzed the driver and all jumped off. I immediately told the other guy to check his pockets, which he did, and everything was still there, as was my wallet, however, a B20 note that was there for me to pay the driver was not, confirming my suspicions.
Things to look for;
2-3 most likely teenages, shabbily dressed.
Boarding seperatly and pretenting not to know each other - watch for eye contact.
Sitting unnessassarily close.
Bags accross laps.
Distraction techniques.
Use your arm as a barrier between you (near your pockets) and the girl.
Be careful, it could have been worse. I had a wallet with maybe B3000, two credit cards and an Iphone.
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[QUOTE=Sainter21]Just on the baht bus, here's another thing.
Recently there has been an increase of pick pockets operating on the bus.
Here is my experience and sequence of events.
I was travelling on a near empty bus (me and another foreigner) along 2nd Road.
A girl of around 16 boarded and sat extremely close to me, depite there being plenty of room.
Another 20 meters along, 2 more girls of similar age also boarded and sat either side of the other passenger opposite.
Note; all girls gave the impression of not knowing each other.
From the corner of my eye, I noticed the girl next to me looking directly at my face.
I had the feeling of movement around my leg and put my hand there and felt for my wallet, which was still there. The girl looked away.
Meanwhile, opposite, the other pax was quite jovial and chatting to one of the girls, commenting on the heat. She began to fan him using a brochure she was carrying. Most probably a technique to distract him.
Note; the girl next to me and the girl on the other side of the pax had bags accross their laps. It appears they use their arm furthest away from the pax and use a bag as cover and reach accross.
Anyway, abruptly, the girls buzzed the driver and all jumped off. I immediately told the other guy to check his pockets, which he did, and everything was still there, as was my wallet, however, a B20 note that was there for me to pay the driver was not, confirming my suspicions.
Things to look for;
2-3 most likely teenages, shabbily dressed.
Boarding seperatly and pretenting not to know each other - watch for eye contact.
Sitting unnessassarily close.
Bags accross laps.
Distraction techniques.
Use your arm as a barrier between you (near your pockets) and the girl.
Be careful, it could have been worse.
I had a wallet with maybe B3000,[b]two credit cards[/b] and an Iphone.[/QUOTE]
It’s actually an on-going problem which is often times not even reported as some see it as more of a nuisance or par for the course for us in Pattaya. You gave some good advice about how to protect your valuables on the Baht Bus. However, I would add not travelling around Pattaya with two credit cards in your wallet to that list.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/13771/australian-tourist-caught-up-in-south-pattaya-baht-bus-pickpocket-case/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Sainter21]Just on the baht bus, here's another thing.
Recently there has been an increase of pick pockets operating on the bus.
Here is my experience and sequence of events.
I was travelling on a near empty bus (me and another foreigner) along 2nd Road.
A girl of around 16 boarded and sat extremely close to me, depite there being plenty of room.
Another 20 meters along, 2 more girls of similar age also boarded and sat either side of the other passenger opposite.
Note; all girls gave the impression of not knowing each other.
From the corner of my eye, I noticed the girl next to me looking directly at my face.
I had the feeling of movement around my leg and put my hand there and felt for my wallet, which was still there. The girl looked away.
Meanwhile, opposite, the other pax was quite jovial and chatting to one of the girls, commenting on the heat. She began to fan him using a brochure she was carrying. Most probably a technique to distract him.
Note; the girl next to me and the girl on the other side of the pax had bags accross their laps. It appears they use their arm furthest away from the pax and use a bag as cover and reach accross.
Anyway, abruptly, the girls buzzed the driver and all jumped off. I immediately told the other guy to check his pockets, which he did, and everything was still there, as was my wallet, however, a B20 note that was there for me to pay the driver was not, confirming my suspicions.
Things to look for;
2-3 most likely teenages, shabbily dressed.
Boarding seperatly and pretenting not to know each other - watch for eye contact.
Sitting unnessassarily close.
Bags accross laps.
Distraction techniques.
Use your arm as a barrier between you (near your pockets) and the girl.
Be careful, it could have been worse. I had a wallet with maybe B3000, two credit cards and an Iphone.[/QUOTE]
Sainter21
The pickpockets are everywhere we are. Best to take precautions that make it difficult to become a victim.
I use pockets with Zippers or Velcro. Also keep cash and cards in an interior zipped pocket. No one will see it much less get to it. For cold weather I have a custom hidden zippered pocket in my leather coat.
Use your gut feel, I caught a pickpocket in Bangkok even though he was behind me. Could just feel something was happening. Could not see his hand but caught it, twisted it severely then gave it back to him.
Have had attempts in Moscow and St Petersburg. You can see it coming.
Best not to drink too much and stay aware of surroundings.
Guido88
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I use a neck wallet myself. Under my armpit. only a few coins in my shorts. When I travel on a bus, EVERY zipper has a lock
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[QUOTE=G 2007]Can anybody advice me if there are any special places i need to go for a good 3-some - i mean where it is not just a show - but where there girls do the real thing? And how much do you pay for this for all night?
Are the any bars with nude dancers and good shows in Pattaya?
Thanks for you advice.[/QUOTE]Devils Den is No ! for 3soms and two thirds of the gogos have nude dancers and shows. Not a problem
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[QUOTE=Doppel One]I was in Champagne agogo on Soi LK Metro about a month ago when a guy appeared naked in the shower with the girls. The guy had a real boner on him the girls were more than happy to jerk it about, though I didn't see him cum.
Three soggy 100 baht bills were plastered to the glass wall dividing the shower from the bar so I surmise he paid 300 baht for his pleasure.
The chap next to me said it happens all the time, though it was a first for me.[/QUOTE]
I was in Champagne last night and a customer dressed in a funny wig stripped Off totally and danced with the girls on stage for about 20 mins. The girls thought it was hilarious but the management didn't appear to bat an eye. I didn't see him get into the shower but Im sure that nobody would have minded at all. Some pretty girls there too.
JohnTheScot
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Summer Spring soi 1
Hi,
Any new updates or reviews on this hotel?
Convenient location?
Clean rooms, etc?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]I was in Champagne last night and a customer dressed in a funny wig stripped Off totally and danced with the girls on stage for about 20 mins. The girls thought it was hilarious but the management didn't appear to bat an eye. I didn't see him get into the shower but Im sure that nobody would have minded at all. Some pretty girls there too.
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]Seeing another naked guy running around would gross me out (unless it was myself of course).
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[QUOTE=Monopoly]Hi,
Any new updates or reviews on this hotel?
Convenient location?
Clean rooms, etc?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Stayed there in February - it's a nice place, rooms are large, basic and clean. I especially liked the rooftop pool, great place to watch the sunset over the bay with a cold Singha at hand before hitting town.
Soi 1 is quiet and pretty much as far from Walking Street as you can get, but the bath bus will get you there in five-ten minutes. I always stay in this area, it's a tiny bit saner than the rest of the wonderful madness that is Pattaya.
My only qualm would be the lack of the Thai alternative to toilet paper in the bathroom - it's not only the girls who miss the little water sprayer, I had one installed back home when I redid my bathroom a year ago :D
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[QUOTE=Sonic]Seeing another naked guy running around would gross me out (unless it was myself of course).[/QUOTE]I don't think any customer enjoys seeing some drunken dipshit up on stage, naked or not. It's a fresh-off-the-plane newbie kind of thing, maybe amusing to some of the newer girls but boring or offensive to everyone else. The current worst offenders seem to be Russian, not too surprisingly.
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Bringing a timber into the wood...
I know, it could be like bringing a timber into the wood, but let me ask you guys and explain. I am going Thailand within few months and I just started considering wheather I should take there my partner. We are together for years already, she is bisexual. Mostly in her minds, not to much experience as yet. The idea has arised when last time we talked about Cuba. And she has mentioned some service in one of the Havana /Cuba/ hotel, that offers some extra addition to (rather expensive) dinner: you may get there a Havana-cigar or. A cuban girl, the choice is up to a customer My girl told me she would ask for a Cuban girl with no doubts! Therefore I started to think to eventually take her to Pattaya (instead me going there alone for about a week), and have some fun together, taking some of the Thai cutes from the bar. I know she would love it, although we have never done before any three-some action of this kind. What I am asking about is would the Thai girls agree for it? For what the price, double price?
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[QUOTE=Betong]I don't think any customer enjoys seeing some drunken dipshit up on stage, naked or not. [/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more, who wants to see a (naked) man dancing around a chrome pole in a heterosexual agogo bar?
As previously mentioned, most of these planks are fresh off the plane and actually believe they're treading new territory.
There should be some sort of rule. If some loon wants to get up and dance with the girls they have to ring the bell and buy all the CUSTOMERS a drink!
Mine's a large one.
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My Two-cents worth....
Hi Goldenam, I would like to present you with two scenarios:
Scene 1:
Some ladies (wife / girlfriend) back home used certain methods of "testing" whether their husband / boyfriend is "loyal" to them by suggesting certain "kinky" sexual acts. We men can be "caught in a trap" and decided to act out such fantasies only to wake up with a huge "boulder" being smashed into our heads with words such as " I know you are not faithful to me and this is proof....". So if (and only IF) you are certain your girlfriend is into a three-some or seeing you banging another woman (Thai or otherwise), I would strongly suggest that you "do not bring a timber into the woods" (to quote you). I had one such personal experience resulting in my girlfriend of 8 years breaking up with me after we "agreed" in Jakarta to go for a swinging session. So these days when I go mongering I go alone and leave the Home Minister (HM) at home.
Scene 2:
Before going to Thailand, you and your girlfriend had agreed on the "kinky" experiences both you and her wanted to share in Thailand. If this is so, then I would strongly urged you to "go for it"!!!
Whether to bring your girlfriend to Thailand or not is entirely up to you. It generally depends on the relationship "set-up" you both have pertaining to matters such as sharing partners (pros or otherwise). I for one will not dare to say yes either way.
I hope my description in both scenarios is of some help to you.
Cheers Mate and enjoy your vacation in "Thailand.....The Adult Disneyland"
[QUOTE=Goldenam]I know, it could be like bringing a timber into the wood, but let me ask you guys and explain. I am going Thailand within few months and I just started considering wheather I should take there my partner. We are together for years already, she is bisexual. Mostly in her minds, not to much experience as yet. The idea has arised when last time we talked about Cuba. And she has mentioned some service in one of the Havana /Cuba/ hotel, that offers some extra addition to (rather expensive) dinner: you may get there a Havana-cigar or. A cuban girl, the choice is up to a customer My girl told me she would ask for a Cuban girl with no doubts! Therefore I started to think to eventually take her to Pattaya (instead me going there alone for about a week), and have some fun together, taking some of the Thai cutes from the bar. I know she would love it, although we have never done before any three-some action of this kind. What I am asking about is would the Thai girls agree for it? For what the price, double price?[/QUOTE]
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What's your GF like?
[QUOTE=Goldenam]I know, it could be like bringing a timber into the wood, but let me ask you guys and explain. I am going Thailand within few months and I just started considering wheather I should take there my partner. We are together for years already, she is bisexual. Mostly in her minds, not to much experience as yet. The idea has arised when last time we talked about Cuba. And she has mentioned some service in one of the Havana /Cuba/ hotel, that offers some extra addition to (rather expensive) dinner: you may get there a Havana-cigar or. A cuban girl, the choice is up to a customer My girl told me she would ask for a Cuban girl with no doubts! Therefore I started to think to eventually take her to Pattaya (instead me going there alone for about a week), and have some fun together, taking some of the Thai cutes from the bar. I know she would love it, although we have never done before any three-some action of this kind. What I am asking about is would the Thai girls agree for it? For what the price, double price?[/QUOTE]
If your GF is a reasonably pretty/young white girl or a pretty young Asian girl then many Thai girls will love that idea. You certainly won't have to pay extra. If she is an overweight 40 year old, it will be more difficult and some extra payment will be required. If she has insecurities about her looks / weight etc it could cause problems but you know her personality.
If you go to Pattaya and especially with this situation I would suggest staying at the Penthouse Suites in Soi Pattayaland and paying up for one of the better rooms with jacuzzi etc. The Penthouse gets some mixed reviews in this forum, I would say mainly because the rather idiosyncratic owner has managed to wind a few vocal people up the wrong way over the years. The reason I think it's the right place for your plan is that the place is a "fantasy" hotel where the atmosphere and decorations are deliberately designed for over the top sexuality. Mirrors everywhere, jacuzzis walk in showers sex swings etc etc. You want to give your GF the impression that this is a fantasy holiday outside your normal life, which you can both remember and fantasize about rather than some sort of descent into scuzziness which might be the general impression if you stay at some other places. I have seen quite a few couples stay at the penthouse, often Russians where the women seem to be rather more open minded about such things than in the west.
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]I know, it could be like bringing a timber into the wood, but let me ask you guys and explain. I am going Thailand within few months and I just started considering wheather I should take there my partner....[/QUOTE]
If I were you, I'd send my partner to Jamaica to get her screwed and enjoy the ladies of Thailand by myself. You could always compare notes afterwards.
In your scenario, you won't get many opportunities to sample the Thai ladies 1on1, aside from the few 3-somes together with your GF.
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Thank you guys for your kind answers. So you say Thai girls would like to do sex with a white couple? Do you mean every Thai "service provider"? No matter if the girl would be from a beer-bar or a go-go? That would be great! My GF has perfect body, much better than many of the twenties (although she is 30-some now) and she is pretty. In fact she looks very much like Thai, with great admixture of european blood. I am quite good looking as well.
Im considering bringing my GF to Thailand as a kind of a 'gift' to her. Going to Pattaya alone would bring me hundreds of possibilities to give some gifts just for myself :) But in that case I'm just thinking about her - my long, long term GF. Of course seeing her having sex with some Thai girl (and me with them) would also be an exciting experience to me, but this is where my doubts begin... Coudn't it brake somehow our long term relationship? It wont brake my feelings to her at all, but how about her..? She is rather not the one who would check my loyalty that way. And it is my idea to do "Pattaya three-some", not her. Actually she don't know yet what I am planning to do, as I want to make her such a suprise. I didn't ask her if she would like it, but knowing her for years - I am pretty sure she would! However this is only my assumption. She keeps saying that some girls make her hot and wet, and that she would love to have a sex with some exotic, cute girl (like Cuban girl instead of havana-cigar, for example :) She did have some sex (just some) with the girls she liked, but no man was involved in it ever, even me - what a shame :) When we talked about it, she said she is not sure how she would feel if we would have another girl (in theory) in our bed. She definitely didn't say "no way" - she seems to be quite open to it - but she was not sure about her feelings in that case, about her eventual shame or envy or becoming "to wild and crazy" just to quote her...
I like very much an idea about Penthouse hotel, that place would suit my fantasies! And hopefully would make my GF feel more comfortable, if she would know we are there for some extras, as people use to get some extras on their holidays. You know guys, as much as I dream about it - I don't want to cause any troubles to the relationship with my GF. If I would be selfish, I would go to Pattay alone, having there some once-in-a-lifetime fucking experience, but I want my GF also to get this kind of experience. Which would please me as well, but I am not convinced if that would work.
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Hi all,
I'm going to Pattaya soon.
Are there a lot of Ladyboys around in Pattaya? I'm definitely not waiting for a big surprise... if you know what I mean. Do they usually tell you, do you ask them, do they lie about it?
Thanks
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Thailand with your other half
[QUOTE=Normad2020]Hi Goldenam, I would like to present you with two scenarios:
Scene 1:
Some ladies (wife / girlfriend) back home used certain methods of "testing" whether their husband / boyfriend is "loyal" to them ..................
Scene 2:
Before going to Thailand, you and your girlfriend had agreed on the "kinky" experiences both you and her wanted to share in Thailand. .............
I hope my description in both scenarios is of some help to you.
Cheers Mate and enjoy your vacation in "Thailand.....The Adult Disneyland"[/QUOTE]
3-some or not, myself mongering in Thailand or not, after visiting Thailand twice a year since 3-4 years (and mongering, there, yes!), I would be very reluctant to bring my wife there.
I go to Thailand alone and she knows.
Various circumstances allow me a sort of legitimate holiday alone there.
It is under the eyes of anybody, even going in the most legitimate places, what goes on in Thailand with western men (of different ages) walking around with thai girls (generally younger than the 'boy')
So, once she has seen the thai scene, any woman (on principle) will sense what those guys are doing and there for.
And she can easily figure out what her companion can do if left with no lace..:)
Maybe they suspect, maybe they wonder, but seeing is believing!
Then of course it is up to the individual relationship people have with their partners (liberal, trustful, etc)
Lot would not bother, some would not "clearly see", other will think "dirty old single men...but mine is ok!"
But in most cases walking around (not to mention the existance of the bars full of girls, be them in the mongering areas or not, and the tens of massage aprlour with nice girl tempting the passer by's) gives a clear message to our ladies...
If one has already been in Thailand alone and then takes the wife she will say "ah...I know why he came here"
If one has not been there yet alone, she will still think " better not let him come here alone as the temptations are at every corner and in between one corner and the other"
:)
Surely thousands of tourists visit the country with the most legitimate and purely tourist approach, no doubt.
Also mongerers are sightseeing around, lol.
Still it is a fact the "offer" is so big that there must be a "big" demand too...:)
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LBs
[QUOTE=Leeuw]Hi all,
I'm going to Pattaya soon.
Are there a lot of Ladyboys around in Pattaya? I'm definitely not waiting for a big surprise... if you know what I mean. Do they usually tell you, do you ask them, do they lie about it?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Yes there are lots. There are quite a few dedicated LB bars/gogos. There are alos plenty of LB freelancers. Typically they will hang around in zones of walking street and beach road. Some of them are way over the top and easily recognisable others are more feminine (as opposed to cartoon female) and much more difficult to spot. If you suspect the person you are talking to may not be a real girl you can just ask her if you are a real girl or LB. If the answer is "what do you think" it usually means she is a LB. Usually they are rather proud if they can fool you for a while. Most LBs will want to let you know they are what they are before they agree to go back to your room in Pattaya otherwise they will potentially waste 30 mins walking to your room and back. The exception maybe if you are drunk in the early hours of the morning when they may have more malicious intentions.
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Threesomes
[QUOTE=Goldenam]Thank you guys for your kind answers. So you say Thai girls would like to do sex with a white couple? Do you mean every Thai "service provider"? No matter if the girl would be from a beer-bar or a go-go? That would be great! My GF has perfect body, much better than many of the twenties (although she is 30-some now) and she is pretty. In fact she looks very much like Thai, with great admixture of european blood. I am quite good looking as well.
Im considering bringing my GF to Thailand as a kind of a 'gift' to her. Going to Pattaya alone would bring me hundreds of possibilities to give some gifts just for myself :) But in that case I'm just thinking about her - my long, long term GF. Of course seeing her having sex with some Thai girl (and me with them) would also be an exciting experience to me, but this is where my doubts begin... Coudn't it brake somehow our long term relationship? It wont brake my feelings to her at all, but how about her..? She is rather not the one who would check my loyalty that way. And it is my idea to do "Pattaya three-some", not her. Actually she don't know yet what I am planning to do, as I want to make her such a suprise. I didn't ask her if she would like it, but knowing her for years - I am pretty sure she would! However this is only my assumption. She keeps saying that some girls make her hot and wet, and that she would love to have a sex with some exotic, cute girl (like Cuban girl instead of havana-cigar, for example :) She did have some sex (just some) with the girls she liked, but no man was involved in it ever, even me - what a shame :) When we talked about it, she said she is not sure how she would feel if we would have another girl (in theory) in our bed. She definitely didn't say "no way" - she seems to be quite open to it - but she was not sure about her feelings in that case, about her eventual shame or envy or becoming "to wild and crazy" just to quote her...
I like very much an idea about Penthouse hotel, that place would suit my fantasies! And hopefully would make my GF feel more comfortable, if she would know we are there for some extras, as people use to get some extras on their holidays. You know guys, as much as I dream about it - I don't want to cause any troubles to the relationship with my GF. If I would be selfish, I would go to Pattay alone, having there some once-in-a-lifetime fucking experience, but I want my GF also to get this kind of experience. Which would please me as well, but I am not convinced if that would work.[/QUOTE]
1 Most Thai girls find even average looking or chubby European girls beautiful as fair skin is valued in Asia and bigger boobs regarded as sexy. The fact that your GF looks a bit Thai is probably a negative - they would prefer Scandinavian blond, but not a big deal.
2 Maybe 75% of the working girls in Pattaya (Gogos / bar beers and freelancers) would be willing to have threesomes especially with either their friends or with western couples (they will be more concerned with other Thai girls that you might select where (is she clean/nice/jealousy may creep in). Typically you can negotiate a discount if you take two girls if they are friends as they will be keen to do their friend a favour.
3 If we are talking about Freelance girls you need to make it clear what you have in mind eg that you wish to cum twice once in each girl. as the default presumption may be that if you come once then they are both "out of here".
4 Though a high proportion of Pattaya WG are up for a threesome what in most cases they will have in mind is the two girls being fucked by you possibly with some boob sucking but no real lesbian action.
5 If you are taking your GF and she is keen on lesbian action, then you need to seek out girls that are specifically up for that. if you o to a bar or gogo the mamsan should be able to tell you which of the girls do genuine lesbian threesomes (maybe 10% will). if you are hooking freelancers you will just have to explain what you are looking for and whether they are up for it. With so many thousands of girls you shouldnt have too much difficulty finding suitable partners.
6 If the girl is genuinely into lesbian action she is likely to be enthusiastic about doing it with a good looking western couple.
Personally if you GF is genuinely up for it (and some will just talk about it as a fantasy but not be so keen in reality), i would go for it. I think it can potentially be alot of fun. Finding two Thai girls who are up for genuine lesbian action threesomes at a reasonable cost is not that easy so if you already have one girl it will be easier.
Provided your relationship is on firm ground i think a trip to pattaya runs far less risk than the girl in the office or through the internet back home scenario. If your girl is good looking and has a rapport because she speaks your language etc I don't think she will feel threatened by Thai working girls and you will have alot of fun reliving your experiences back at home. it would be a different matter if your girl was overw=eight, and simply not in the same league as the Thai girls.
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Thank you guys for your kind answers. So you say Thai girls would like to do sex with a white couple? Do you mean every Thai "service provider"? No matter if the girl would be from a beer-bar or a go-go? That would be great! My GF has perfect body, much better than many of the twenties (although she is 30-some now) and she is pretty. In fact she looks very much like Thai, with great admixture of european blood. I am quite good looking as well.
Im considering bringing my GF to Thailand as a kind of a 'gift' to her. Going to Pattaya alone would bring me hundreds of possibilities to give some gifts just for myself :) But in that case I'm just thinking about her - my long, long term GF. Of course seeing her having sex with some Thai girl (and me with them) would also be an exciting experience to me, but this is where my doubts begin... Coudn't it brake somehow our long term relationship? It wont brake my feelings to her at all, but how about her..? She is rather not the one who would check my loyalty that way. And it is my idea to do "Pattaya three-some", not her. Actually she don't know yet what I am planning to do, as I want to make her such a suprise. I didn't ask her if she would like it, but knowing her for years - I am pretty sure she would! However this is only my assumption. She keeps saying that some girls make her hot and wet, and that she would love to have a sex with some exotic, cute girl (like Cuban girl instead of havana-cigar, for example :) She did have some sex (just some) with the girls she liked, but no man was involved in it ever, even me - what a shame :) When we talked about it, she said she is not sure how she would feel if we would have another girl (in theory) in our bed. She definitely didn't say "no way" - she seems to be quite open to it - but she was not sure about her feelings in that case, about her eventual shame or envy or becoming "to wild and crazy" just to quote her...
I like very much an idea about Penthouse hotel, that place would suit my fantasies! And hopefully would make my GF feel more comfortable, if she would know we are there for some extras, as people use to get some extras on their holidays. You know guys, as much as I dream about it - I don't want to cause any troubles to the relationship with my GF. If I would be selfish, I would go to Pattay alone, having there some once-in-a-lifetime fucking experience, but I want my GF also to get this kind of experience. Which would please me as well, but I am not convinced if that would work.[/QUOTE]
I know a few couples who come to LOS and have a great time. Either as a 3 som or they take one each.
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Hey guys,
Been lurking for a while and decided I may as well introduce myself as I'm beggining to get more questions piled up around me. Just on a offhand note, I've enjoyed reading kumbu's posts and I do enjoy the detail he has put into them. I can only hope I would experience some of the things he has one day. Anyways, I'll start off with a short introduction. I'm 19 years old, living in Australia and I've started my first year of uni. Now before you criticize me for my age, please bear with me as I try to explain myself. The secrets of Thailand have been no great mystery to me for many a year. It has always been one of my ambitions to go here, if only just once, for a short time to experience the likes of which I will never see again. *
There is however, a problem I doubt many of you will be familiar with. Pretty much boils down to the rents, though it encompasses more than that which I think some of you will at least have experience with. *
Anyways, I might as well get to the point. Is it possible to visit Pattaya withought those back home knowing of your true intentions? And how would be the best way to do this? After hours of pondering, I've come up with the plan/idea that the best way to do it would be to split the trip up into two weeks, one for mongering and the other for touristy stuff so I can fake my reasons and bring back what my family expect (photos, video footage, trinkets&suviniers etc). This approach would severly dampen my mood as I would not do any mongering on the first week. So I guess what I'm asking here is " Is it possible to monger full time while give the illusion that your holidaying? I would be greatfull if anyone could help me out on that. *
I do have some other worries though, mostly of the nature of. Will coming here fuck up the way I perceive woman and stuff of this nature. I guess I can only really answer this stuff myself. Will I become addicted? I hope not because family would find it suspicious that I would travel there constantly.
Ah well it feels good to finally let someone know about this stuff. It would be great to find someone willing to come with me on a trip from Australia bu I wouldn't have clue who to talk to. I'm sure you would agree that the average person my age would certainly not think of coming here for this purpose. I'm not planning on coming anytime soon, possibly toward the end of the year. But it's a big possility. I might have other overseas travels planned or uni might take over through the holidays too.
Just some other various tidbits. I'm starting go pick up some of the abbreviations you guys use (DATY, SL, LT etc) but I can't put my finger on some of them. Mostly p4p I think and BF not sure if that stands for boyfriend or not.
Other than those quires I have one last one. How often do some of the more experienced users in ISG Meet up with the rookies and is how easy is it to organize/how often does it happen. I only ask because I would be an absolute begginer and would appreciate someone showing my the ropes. Ok well maybe that was more than one question.
Well I won't make you suffer through anymore reading and I'll cut it short(***). Been holding off of posting much because I don't have any reports to contribute since I havn't been there yet, I thought I might as well post here and introduce myself and see what happens. *
Cheers,
Strider
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There's a lot more to it!
[QUOTE=GregLondon] If you suspect the person you are talking to may not be a real girl you can just ask her if you are a real girl or LB. If the answer is "what do you think" it usually means she is a LB. Usually they are rather proud if they can fool you for a while. Most LBs will want to let you know they are what they are before they agree to go back to your room in Pattaya otherwise they will potentially waste 30 mins walking to your room and back. [/QUOTE]
A lot of them have the full surgery and most people couldn't tell the difference unless you really know what you're looking for. These are the ones to watch out for because their tactic is to fool all punters, and they will always answer with "yes, i'm a girl" to the question above.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]A lot of them have the full surgery and most people couldn't tell the difference unless you really know what you're looking for. These are the ones to watch out for because their tactic is to fool all punters, and they will always answer with "yes, i'm a girl" to the question above.[/QUOTE]Thanks, appreciate the feedback.
So what's your tactic to avoid them?
I was actually thinking about walking over beach road for some nice Thai girls but it seems I like I really need to be on guard for LBs. Hmmm.
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ah but amjeck - "ta arn pasa-Thai dai dee gwar" (if you can READ Thai, it's better) The ID SAYS male or female (and they CANNOT CHANGE IT)
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LBs
Maybe it's just me, but I think if it is THAT hard to spot a LB such that:
- she has no outwardly indications of manhood,
- you are willing to take her to the hotel,
- you get a glorious blow job,
- suck...
- and fuck her manufactured vagina,
- cum a happy man,
and at the end of it the only way to tell that She is a He is by reading her ID, then I would humbly submit to you that for all intents and purposes, She IS a She. Just don't look at the ID and enjoy the experience.
If, on the other hand, when you slip your face down between her luscious thighs to find an anaconda staring you in the face, then you need to work on your boy-finding skills: Your Gaydar is broke.
In general, I think there is a low-level hysteria surrounding LBs here, for no real reason. In my experience, the LBs have never been a problem. They are generally the most sexually aggressive sex workers on the street (clue #1), they are the most sexily dressed (clue #2), and they are lots of fun to talk with. But just be clear to them (and yourself) that you don't swing that way, and they will move on.
My advise: relax and enjoy yourself. This is not worth worrying about.
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Id
[QUOTE=Dinghy]ah but amjeck - "ta arn pasa-Thai dai dee gwar" (if you can READ Thai, it's better) The ID SAYS male or female (and they CANNOT CHANGE IT)[/QUOTE]So how is this written in Thai on the IDs for male and female?
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Agreed....
Cheers Mate, and I concurred with your assessment. That is the reason I normally go on my mongering "holidays" (average twice a year) alone or with male friends who shared a common hobby (P4P actions).
For me "once bitten, I am twice shy" and so I will "take the timber I need from the forest I am in..."
Cheers
[QUOTE=Bionicman]3-some or not, myself mongering in Thailand or not, after visiting Thailand twice a year since 3-4 years (and mongering, there, yes!), I would be very reluctant to bring my wife there.
I go to Thailand alone and she knows.
Various circumstances allow me a sort of legitimate holiday alone there.
It is under the eyes of anybody, even going in the most legitimate places, what goes on in Thailand with western men (of different ages) walking around with thai girls (generally younger than the 'boy')
So, once she has seen the thai scene, any woman (on principle) will sense what those guys are doing and there for.
And she can easily figure out what her companion can do if left with no lace..:)
Maybe they suspect, maybe they wonder, but seeing is believing!
Then of course it is up to the individual relationship people have with their partners (liberal, trustful, etc)
Lot would not bother, some would not "clearly see", other will think "dirty old single men...but mine is ok!"
But in most cases walking around (not to mention the existance of the bars full of girls, be them in the mongering areas or not, and the tens of massage aprlour with nice girl tempting the passer by's) gives a clear message to our ladies...
If one has already been in Thailand alone and then takes the wife she will say "ah...I know why he came here"
If one has not been there yet alone, she will still think " better not let him come here alone as the temptations are at every corner and in between one corner and the other"
:)
Surely thousands of tourists visit the country with the most legitimate and purely tourist approach, no doubt.
Also mongerers are sightseeing around, lol.
Still it is a fact the "offer" is so big that there must be a "big" demand too...:)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Edward M]So how is this written in Thai on the IDs for male and female?[/QUOTE]
Mister: นาย ("nai")
Miss: น.ส. (abbreviation for นางสาว "nang sao")
Mistress: นาง ("nang")
But be careful, because fake ID cards do exist and certain girls (real or not) sometimes borrow one of their friends' ID card (the current one or even an old one that was declared as "lost").
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Youngsters
[QUOTE=Striderani]Hey guys,
Been lurking for a while and decided I may as well introduce myself as I'm beggining to get more questions piled up around me. Just on a offhand note, I've enjoyed reading kumbu's posts and I do enjoy the detail he has put into them. I can only hope I would experience some of the things he has one day. Anyways, I'll start off with a short introduction. I'm 19 years old, living in Australia and I've started my first year of uni. Now before you criticize me for my age, please bear with me as I try to explain myself. The secrets of Thailand have been no great mystery to me for many a year. It has always been one of my ambitions to go here, if only just once, for a short time to experience the likes of which I will never see again. *
There is however, a problem I doubt many of you will be familiar with. Pretty much boils down to the rents, though it encompasses more than that which I think some of you will at least have experience with. *
Anyways, I might as well get to the point. Is it possible to visit Pattaya withought those back home knowing of your true intentions? And how would be the best way to do this? After hours of pondering, I've come up with the plan/idea that the best way to do it would be to split the trip up into two weeks, one for mongering and the other for touristy stuff so I can fake my reasons and bring back what my family expect (photos, video footage, trinkets&suviniers etc). This approach would severly dampen my mood as I would not do any mongering on the first week. So I guess what I'm asking here is " Is it possible to monger full time while give the illusion that your holidaying? I would be greatfull if anyone could help me out on that. *
I do have some other worries though, mostly of the nature of. Will coming here fuck up the way I perceive woman and stuff of this nature. I guess I can only really answer this stuff myself. Will I become addicted? I hope not because family would find it suspicious that I would travel there constantly.
Ah well it feels good to finally let someone know about this stuff. It would be great to find someone willing to come with me on a trip from Australia bu I wouldn't have clue who to talk to. I'm sure you would agree that the average person my age would certainly not think of coming here for this purpose. I'm not planning on coming anytime soon, possibly toward the end of the year. But it's a big possility. I might have other overseas travels planned or uni might take over through the holidays too.
Just some other various tidbits. I'm starting go pick up some of the abbreviations you guys use (DATY, SL, LT etc) but I can't put my finger on some of them. Mostly p4p I think and BF not sure if that stands for boyfriend or not.
Other than those quires I have one last one. How often do some of the more experienced users in ISG Meet up with the rookies and is how easy is it to organize/how often does it happen. I only ask because I would be an absolute begginer and would appreciate someone showing my the ropes. Ok well maybe that was more than one question.
Well I won't make you suffer through anymore reading and I'll cut it short(***). Been holding off of posting much because I don't have any reports to contribute since I havn't been there yet, I thought I might as well post here and introduce myself and see what happens. *
Cheers,
Strider[/QUOTE]
P4P = pay 4 pleasure/play
BF = Boyfriend or Bar fine depending on the context
a girl might say I have an American BF, a guy might say How much was the BF
Bar fine is the system in Thailand whereby if you want a girl from one of the "bar beers" or GoGos you pay the bar/club an amount typically 300B for a bar and 500-800B for a Gogo to release the girl early from work (otherwise they are likely to keep her hanging around till 2-4am. In Thailand you must then also agree a price for the girl as well . The system in the Philippines is a little different as the bar fine is higher but includes and amount (typically around 50% which goes to the girl so that at least in Angeles (the Pattaya equiv in Phils) you only have to pay an additional tip if you are pleased with then service.
Many young guys come to Thailand / Pattaya and get by without explicitly paying for sex - though probably they will buy the girl food/drinks. It depends on your looks / skills . If you are fat and ugly you may well have to join us oldsters and pay up. If you are a good looking or even an average somewhat spotty/geeky guy you may well get what you want without paying in Pattaya.
This is because many of the young girls in the bars are happy to be bar fined by an older guy, then after he has come (short time) or they have remembered that there is some urgent reason they cannot stay with him after all they will go to the clubs down walking street with their friends. Some of the girls will explicitly loiter there looking for extra custom, but loads of them will either be satisfied with that days earnings or be getting money send from overseas by one or more foreign BF's and there main idea is to HAVE FUN. Having a YOUNG and if possible HANDSOME BF is a HIGH STATUS thing for such girls so they may well be prepared to go with you for fun.
Note this is primarily a Pattaya thing, in more conservative parts of the country your chances of short term free sex are much lower.
Re your dual centre plan. i would suggest going to Pattaya first. You can do some local island hoping to get some pics of beaches and there are plenty of thai souvenirs to buy. If you find a nice girl i would then be tempted to take her to somewhere like Ko Chang about 4 hours minibus towards the cambodian coast which is are regular island holiday destination with a limited P4P scene.
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Abbreviations
[QUOTE=Striderani]... I'm starting go pick up some of the abbreviations you guys use (DATY, SL, LT etc) but I can't put my finger on some of them...[/QUOTE]
Useful reading about abbreviations: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1897[/url]
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Striderani!
As for myself, I will be moving to Thailand in a month for an extended period time because I have been to Thailand before and liked the country very much! I especially enjoyed Chiang Mai and that's where I intend to live as well as seek work in my field of teaching English.
I formerly taught in a Central European country which does not have the close travel links that, say, the UK, Germany, the Scandanavian countries, etc., have with Thailand but the people I associate with still have the "mindset" of the "Thai equation"(Thailand = girls/women for sex!).
I try to "laugh it off" by explaining that I am also going there to "live with the elephants" along with working!
But, even my legitimate and truthful occupational intent won't provide me with the "cover" I need!(i.e. "Thailand...that's nice...have a wonderful time, wink, wink!"
[Quote=Striderani]Anyways, I might as well get to the point. Is it possible to visit Pattaya withought those back home knowing of your true intentions? And how would be the best way to do this? After hours of pondering, I've come up with the plan/idea that the best way to do it would be to split the trip up into two weeks, one for mongering and the other for touristy stuff so I can fake my reasons and bring back what my family expect (photos, video footage, trinkets&suviniers etc). This approach would severly dampen my mood as I would not do any mongering on the first week. So I guess what I'm asking here is " Is it possible to monger full time while give the illusion that your holidaying? I would be greatfull if anyone could help me out on that.[/Quote]
Here are my opinions/thoughts to answer your question.
As I have come to believe Thailand has a world reputation(the "high and mighty" consider it a "stigma") of where to go to have sex with, most likely, multiple paid partners...really no way to get away from it(general knowledge of Pattaya as "ground zero" does not seem to be as widespread, however!).
To begin with, I would only tell people that you are going to Thailand on a "need to know" basis and, perhaps, fabricate a "fake" tour with actual "touristy" locations(even better if you are going to these locations yourself but not necessary as you can always "shuffle" the digital photos as who is really going to know?).
Another, possible, "real purpose of journey" explaination is that you can say that are going to "backpack it" and stay in "youth hostels", not shave and/or make showers infrequently...which can make you appear to really want to "live off the land"(a real contradiction to the personal hygene image of someone who's intent was sex!).
Lastly, remember, you are at the "young, curious, explorational" age of 19 and have all the sex you want at home so why could you ever want to go to Thailand for it?
Hope this gives you some ideas and that you have a enjoyable journey in the LOS!
Cheers!
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[QUOTE=GregLondon] Having a YOUNG and if possible HANDSOME BF is a HIGH STATUS thing for such girls so they may well be prepared to go with you for fun.
Note this is primarily a Pattaya thing, in more conservative parts of the country your chances of short term free sex are much lower.
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This is a very good point and is indeed limited to Pattaya.
Also, you say "HANDSOME BF". This does not mean "HANDSOME short time free fuck never go out in public BF"
They want to show you off if you fit the "HANDSOME BF" criteria. But that means you have to hang out with a "sex worker" outside of the bedroom.
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Strider,
Easy question first:
[QUOTE=Striderani] Is it possible to visit Pattaya withought those back home knowing of your true intentions? And how would be the best way to do this? ...Is it possible to monger full time while give the illusion that your holidaying? I would be greatfull if anyone could help me out on that.[/QUOTE]I'm American, and so I don't know what the precise Aussie translation for this is, but I would say the answer to these questions is an unambiguous YES WE CAN.
You need to be meticulous though. There are lots of bobs and bits that tend to get over looked and might come back and bite you. Are you in a relationship? This could be particularly sticky, as she (maybe he? no judgments) will be particularly attuned to a visit to Thailand. You need to make sure that you can make hotel reservations with a credit card without anyone seeing your bills. Maybe get a prepaid CC? When you arrive, get a local SIM card so you can follow up with good girls (available at any 7-11 for (I think) 99B). But when you leave, make sure you sanitize the phone. Get your story straight: I was in place X for these dates, and then place Y for these dates, etc. And tell EVERYONE the exact same story, or else your details will get fucked up and you will get caught. In fact, rehearse those details to yourself many, many times, visualizing what it must have been like stuck on that damned tourist bus with the noisy American couple behind you, etc. "Oh Bob, look at that large European gentleman with those three skinny girls. What an odd group they are, aren't they?" Rehearse and visualize until you begin to believe the stories yourself.
You can get loads of pics during the day in Pattaya and Bangkok - lots of touristy stuff. There are hundreds of wats (temples) that you can click away to your heart's delight, maybe catch a shot of an elephant on the street, a beach or two, and you're good. I would say you do not need to spend half your mongering time pissing it away doing a bunch of boring, tedious, touristy crap. Unless you want to, that is. So my recommendation would be to load up on the mongering, skip the other stuff.
Now a question which you indeed gave the correct answer (I see a bright few years at University for you!):
[QUOTE=Striderani]Will coming here fuck up the way I perceive woman and stuff of this nature.[/QUOTE]Answer:[QUOTE=Striderani] I guess I can only really answer this stuff myself. [/QUOTE]This is because we don't know how you view women now. Nor what kind of experience you will have here. Nor what kind of guy you are. So only you can answer this question. I will tell you that there are mongers who respect women, and there are mongers who treat them like shit, and there are mongers who fear women, and there are mongers who want to hurt them, and there are mongers who want to love them. So the activity of mongering will not necessarily *change* your attitude towards women (although it might). I think it is more likely to bring it into sharp focus.
Now the really tough question:
[QUOTE=Striderani]Will I become addicted?[/QUOTE]This is the tough one. Have you never paid a woman for sex before? In the words of Senator Clay Davis from The Wire..."Sheeeeeeeeeeeeyit".
I would say yes. I mean, fuck yeah, you will get addicted. It is worse than crack. You may go off it for a while, but you will eventually get the urge back, and it will be like you never left. I was going to say something like "If you think you can't handle being addicted to this activity, I would recommend not even starting." But I think it is too late for that. You say that you have been dreaming of going to Thailand for years, well, that means you are pretty much hooked. You need to figure out how to manage this addiction. How to feed it in a reasonable way, without breaking the bank or the rest of your life. In a sense, ISG might be a place you can go for therapy, or at least advise. Welcome to the club, laddie.
[QUOTE=Striderani]Been holding off of posting much because I don't have any reports to contribute since I havn't been there yet, I thought I might as well post here and introduce myself and see what happens.[/QUOTE]You did the right thing. Pick up some more info, then put it into practice, and then submit the most awesome of reports telling us exactly what it felt like when your lips met her ass cheeks, and how she felt when she came, and explain to us just how fucking addicted you are to mongering.
Good luck Strider. In a sense, I envy you...starting out on a path very similar to myself...a young 19 year old dreaming of frivolous sex with a beautiful woman with no attachments and little worry. It's how every young man should start his University career.
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Gender
[QUOTE=Goyave]Mister: นาย ("nai")
Miss: น.ส. (abbreviation for นางสาว "nang sao")
Mistress: นาง ("nang")
But be careful, because fake ID cards do exist and certain girls (real or not) sometimes borrow one of their friends' ID card (the current one or even an old one that was declared as "lost").[/QUOTE]
Hi guys, hope some of you (with Thai knowledge) can help.
I include two copies from ID cards and want to know with gender there is registered.
Txs.
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[QUOTE=Somewhere15]Hi guys, hope some of you (with Thai knowledge) can help.
I include two copies from ID cards and want to know with gender there is registered.
Txs.[/QUOTE]
Those are females (there is น.ส. for "Miss" before their name).
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Thank you guys for your kind answers. So you say Thai girls would like to do sex with a white couple? Do you mean every Thai "service provider"? No matter if the girl would be from a beer-bar or a go-go? That would be great! My GF has perfect body, much better than many of the twenties (although she is 30-some now) and she is pretty. In fact she looks very much like Thai, with great admixture of european blood. I am quite good looking as well.
Im considering bringing my GF to Thailand as a kind of a 'gift' to her. Going to Pattaya alone would bring me hundreds of possibilities to give some gifts just for myself :) But in that case I'm just thinking about her - my long, long term GF. Of course seeing her having sex with some Thai girl (and me with them) would also be an exciting experience to me, but this is where my doubts begin... Coudn't it brake somehow our long term relationship? It wont brake my feelings to her at all, but how about her..? She is rather not the one who would check my loyalty that way. And it is my idea to do "Pattaya three-some", not her. Actually she don't know yet what I am planning to do, as I want to make her such a suprise. I didn't ask her if she would like it, but knowing her for years - I am pretty sure she would! However this is only my assumption. She keeps saying that some girls make her hot and wet, and that she would love to have a sex with some exotic, cute girl (like Cuban girl instead of havana-cigar, for example :) She did have some sex (just some) with the girls she liked, but no man was involved in it ever, even me - what a shame :) When we talked about it, she said she is not sure how she would feel if we would have another girl (in theory) in our bed. She definitely didn't say "no way" - she seems to be quite open to it - but she was not sure about her feelings in that case, about her eventual shame or envy or becoming "to wild and crazy" just to quote her...
I like very much an idea about Penthouse hotel, that place would suit my fantasies! And hopefully would make my GF feel more comfortable, if she would know we are there for some extras, as people use to get some extras on their holidays. You know guys, as much as I dream about it - I don't want to cause any troubles to the relationship with my GF. If I would be selfish, I would go to Pattay alone, having there some once-in-a-lifetime fucking experience, but I want my GF also to get this kind of experience. Which would please me as well, but I am not convinced if that would work.[/QUOTE]Hi Goldenam,
Don't mean to rain on your parade, but I think you need to discuss your surprise with your GF before booking. You may get a surprise boot out the door if you're not careful. Fantasies of 3sums or any kind discussed between partners is usually best left that way. As a fantasy! Very often an erotic fantasy played out in the privacy of your room can be fun, but a disaster when turned to reality, especially if one partner takes it a step closer to the real thing without discussion before hand. The reality can change the dynamic of your relationship and not necessary for the better!
Put it another way, lets say your GF wanted another guy to make up a 3sum with you, how would you feel if she went behind your back organised a nice holiday with the express intention of picking up random guys to bring 'HER' fantasy to life? Also, how would you feel seeing your GF banging another guy? Perhaps the whole girl on girl thing may fun for both of you, but how do you think she will feel when you're banging the other girl?
My advice, thread carefully, you may think you know what your GF feels, but in the face of reality what you think she feels and what she actually feels are two completely different things! I think all the guys on here will confirm you never really know what a woman is thinking, no matter how long you are with her!
Maybe I'm over analysing the situation?
Good luck.
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Thanks for the responses guys, I feel like it was worth it deciding to introduce myself. Please forgive me for my poor English in my last post, I was posting it via Iphone after all.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]Strider,
You need to be meticulous though. There are lots of bobs and bits that tend to get over looked and might come back and bite you. Are you in a relationship? This could be particularly sticky, as she (maybe he? no judgments) will be particularly attuned to a visit to Thailand. You need to make sure that you can make hotel reservations with a credit card without anyone seeing your bills. Maybe get a prepaid CC? When you arrive, get a local SIM card so you can follow up with good girls (available at any 7-11 for (I think) 99B). But when you leave, make sure you sanitize the phone. Get your story straight: I was in place X for these dates, and then place Y for these dates, etc. And tell EVERYONE the exact same story, or else your details will get fucked up and you will get caught. In fact, rehearse those details to yourself many, many times, visualizing what it must have been like stuck on that damned tourist bus with the noisy American couple behind you, etc. "Oh Bob, look at that large European gentleman with those three skinny girls. What an odd group they are, aren't they?" Rehearse and visualize until you begin to believe the stories yourself.
You can get loads of pics during the day in Pattaya and Bangkok - lots of touristy stuff. There are hundreds of wats (temples) that you can click away to your heart's delight, maybe catch a shot of an elephant on the street, a beach or two, and you're good. I would say you do not need to spend half your mongering time pissing it away doing a bunch of boring, tedious, touristy crap. Unless you want to, that is. So my recommendation would be to load up on the mongering, skip the other stuff.
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Ah right, I can see this will be pretty easy so long as I'm careful. I figure the hardest bit will be when I come back. I figure I may stay in bangkok for a day and take some pictures of the big city and say I've been there for a week. Hmm, it thrills me just thinking about it. Another thing I imagine is that I can be whoever I want when I'm there, I doubt the girls will notice anything much. A prepaid CC is definitely a must. No GF. I did the whole GF thing back in high school and it just wasn't for me. I believe I am much more mature than most people my age, though I do understand I lack experience. I just couldn't deal with a whole bunch of adolescent biyatchs cring and moaning about their life and yadda yadda yadda. Not for me. Definitely when I'm older I'll settle down and have a family, but not now.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]
This is because we don't know how you view women now. Nor what kind of experience you will have here. Nor what kind of guy you are. So only you can answer this question. I will tell you that there are mongers who respect women, and there are mongers who treat them like shit, and there are mongers who fear women, and there are mongers who want to hurt them, and there are mongers who want to love them. So the activity of mongering will not necessarily *change* your attitude towards women (although it might). I think it is more likely to bring it into sharp focus. [/QUOTE]
Well, I'll try to relate my experiences down in Australia, I've been to brothels and strip joints, brothels a total of 5 times, the first time on my 18 bday lol. It's just way to much money to spend 300$+ extra's for an hour with no BBBJ and one pop. Pathetic. And it's not even guaranteed that the girl will enjoy it. 2 out of the three where starfish. But at least in Pattaya it don't cost you an arm and a leg. Kinda funny that I don't have a job. Wouldn't like to know what the gov would do if they found out what I'm using their money for.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]
I would say yes. I mean, fuck yeah, you will get addicted. It is worse than crack. You may go off it for a while, but you will eventually get the urge back, and it will be like you never left. I was going to say something like "If you think you can't handle being addicted to this activity, I would recommend not even starting." But I think it is too late for that. You say that you have been dreaming of going to Thailand for years, well, that means you are pretty much hooked. You need to figure out how to manage this addiction. How to feed it in a reasonable way, without breaking the bank or the rest of your life. In a sense, ISG might be a place you can go for therapy, or at least advise. Welcome to the club, laddie.
You did the right thing. Pick up some more info, then put it into practice, and then submit the most awesome of reports telling us exactly what it felt like when your lips met her ass cheeks, and how she felt when she came, and explain to us just how fucking addicted you are to mongering.
Good luck Strider. In a sense, I envy you...starting out on a path very similar to myself...a young 19 year old dreaming of frivolous sex with a beautiful woman with no attachments and little worry. It's how every young man should start his University career.[/QUOTE]
Lol, the world would be a pretty f'd up place if every young man started their uni career this way. I understand I am definitely not in the majority, but I've always been like that, no biggie.
I enjoy your literary style Kumbu, I would hope my reports come close to your quality; I am willing to try.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]
Bar fine is the system in Thailand whereby if you want a girl from one of the "bar beers" or GoGos you pay the bar/club an amount typically 300B for a bar and 500-800B for a Gogo to release the girl early from work (otherwise they are likely to keep her hanging around till 2-4am. In Thailand you must then also agree a price for the girl as well . The system in the Philippines is a little different as the bar fine is higher but includes and amount (typically around 50% which goes to the girl so that at least in Angeles (the Pattaya equiv in Phils) you only have to pay an additional tip if you are pleased with then service.[/QUOTE]
Lol, I get how it works, though I imagine when I first get there everything I know will go flying out the window.
Though I didn't know about the possibility of not explicitly paying for sex. I can't say I do like the idea, but I've already read a few posts on the forums about the well-defined dangers of doing so. I wouldn't consider myself particularly handsom but I also know that these girls standards are completely out of whack and different then anything I've ever seen or experienced before. I'll just have to see how I go.
Thanks for the clarification on those acronyms too, and Goyave for the link, they will come in handy.
Ah well, when this year ends, I think I will shed my gaming addiction, and grow another in it's stead, one that will make more man then most.
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Strider,
If I were you I would do a quicky tourist thing in Bkk and/or Chiang Mai and get plenty of photos of temples and elephants. I wouldn´t mention going to Pattaya to anyone. Pattaya=Sex. Since your local Sim Chip won´t show where you are, nor will your e-mails home, I don´t see how you could get busted. Also, if you want to get the most out of ISG and maybe get together with some other forum members when you travel, I suggest you pay Jackson his $19.95 which will enable you to send and receive PMs (private messages).
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[QUOTE=David_33]Strider,
Also, if you want to get the most out of ISG and maybe get together with some other forum members when you travel, I suggest you pay Jackson his $19.95 which will enable you to send and receive PMs (private messages).[/QUOTE]Yes, I am going to soon. Just need to set up the CC. ;)
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Youngsters
[QUOTE=Striderani]Hey guys,
I do have some other worries though, mostly of the nature of. Will coming here fuck up the way I perceive woman and stuff of this nature. I guess I can only really answer this stuff myself. Will I become addicted? I hope not because family would find it suspicious that I would travel there constantly.
Ah well it feels good to finally let someone know about this stuff. It would be great to find someone willing to come with me on a trip from Australia bu I wouldn't have clue who to talk to. I'm sure you would agree that the average person my age would certainly not think of coming here for this purpose. I'm not planning on coming anytime soon, possibly toward the end of the year. But it's a big possility. I might have other overseas travels planned or uni might take over through the holidays too.
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Other than those quires I have one last one. How often do some of the more experienced users in ISG Meet up with the rookies and is how easy is it to organize/how often does it happen. I only ask because I would be an absolute begginer and would appreciate someone showing my the ropes. Ok well maybe that was more than one question.
Strider[/QUOTE]
Actually these are rather interesting questions.
As someone else said the ultimate answer lies with what sort of person you are. There are many young guys 18-25 who do come to Pattaya who give every indication of having a great time. They typically have alot of "mates", like getting drunk, clubbing and scoring with off duty bar/gogo girls. By and large there is not alot of interaction or mutual respect between these guys and the 35-70 year old guys who i suspect predominate on ISG.
I think if you are a more introspective young guy - as would seem to be evidenced by your questions and very appearance on ISG then there is a very real possibility that Pattaya may negatively influence your attitude towards women. Pattaya I think appeals to mindless younger men and jaded older men. Speaking for myself, I would not have appreciated / enjoyed Pattaya as a young man. If I could choose a holiday for a 19 year old me, I think I would go to Philippines and hook up with a 18-20 year old college girl there and take her for a trip around Palawan to Honda Bay and El Nido. Why? Because it's really difficult to find a decent girl in Pattaya. The girls get very jaded, very quickly. The younger ones who will generally have just showed up from Essan will often speak negligible English. In the Phils you can probably find a genuinely delightful young college girl who speaks English well and you can genuinely relate too and who will also fuck your brains out. If you play it smart you can probably try a few of her friends too. If you take her to Palawan you can see some of the most stunning scenery in Asia. Of course you will miss out on the endless bars and pool huge numbers of girls and discos of Pattaya so it depends on your tastes and needs.
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Hey Striderani,
When are you going?
I'm 24 and going there in August. Perhaps we can hook up.
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First Few Days in Pattaya
Hi All!
Beginning my third day/4th night here. This is my second trip (first one was in 2008) so I am learning the ropes again and getting a sense of what has changed. Thanks to Kumbu and all other mongers for the good info on the site. I hope I can do my part here to contribute to the good info.
I got in from the airport around 8PM the first night and hit walking street around 10PM, anxious for some action. My plan was to score a free lancer, as I had some great success going down that route last trip. Walked up and down walking street a few times and checked the girls. Not too much of interest. Two stunners turned out to be LBs after further scrutinization (but one was just drop dead gorgeous, made me at least think about it LOL).
Hot as hell I walked into Airport GoGo, enticed by the stuardess costumes. Crazy scene inside with really hot girls. Fantastic Jacuzzi show. Soon enough I had a girl in each arm and was chatting up and making out with both. I ordered a few rounds of drinks but was a little light in the pocketbook as I only had taken 3000BHT with me. I had no other choice but to pass this time, but I should be back. I was a little worried I dodn't have enough to pay the bill, but it only turned out to be 1275 for 3 or 4 rounds for me and 2 girls. Not too bad considering all the attention they gave me. I bid them a fond farewell, saying hta tI was tired form my trip as an excuse. They made me promise to come back and this is definitely an option for later in the trip.
So back to plan A. Continued trolling walking street, and finally saw a few cuties huddled up outside of Lucifer. Grabbed a beer at the disco and weighted my options, as there were at least 2 or 3 that I found to be attractive. A very nice one got snapped up by some middle eastern dudes, so I downed the beer and went in for the kill. Picked a little sexy school girl type. Very cute. Annie, 19 year old but looked more like 16, with a teeny petite body (Yes I am a six SOB, but I do have my own rules and I did made sure my doorman checked her ID when I got her home). We agreed on 1500 LT and were soon on the Bhat Bus to my place.
Great little body with nice fake titties. (The boob jobs here are so much better than in the US!) But the performance left much to be desired. No BJ! (Fuck, should have asked first.) But it was fun to explore that tight little body. She was very small and I think she had some trouble taking all of me in. Something of a starfish but warmed up a bit, but then got wore out as the night progressed. 2 shots and I let her go at 7AM (we had agreed to 8, but saw no point in further torturing this poor little thing and mercifully let her go). OK experience but a far cry from the FL experiences last trip. Is this a trend?
2nd night I decided to check out some of the bars in Jomtien (where I am heading) before hitting walking street. I hit up Country Road (the most famous one here, I think), but the girls were, at least for me, past their expiration date. But they were nice and friendly enough and I excused myself after one beer. I arrived at walking street around 10PM and again kept my eye out for nice FLs. The pickings were a bit slimmer than last time. I extended my stroll out to beach road. Some good options here. But I was a bit weary of repeating my starfish experience form last night. I did watch to absolutely gorgeous teenagers get picked up by some goofy looking young Japanese guys. I felt I had missed out? But will look for them again.
Keeping in mind the fun I had at Airport, I decided to try Superbaby (which seemed to be recommended by board members). Very good selection of topless girls when I walked in and nice Jacuzzi show in the back. Soon I had one of the super cute dancers sitting with me. Very sweet girl named Ploi. Great set of boobies, which I initially though were fake but turned out to be real. We had a drink and got to know each other. She was a bit shy, but willing to answer my question about how we would be spending our time together (I. E. If she would DFK, BJ, etc). We agreed on 600BHT barfine and 2500 LT. Steep, but I think these prices are set as I had no luck negotiating. They pushed for me to pay this all upfront, which is a NO-NO for me, but acquiesced for me to pay her in the morning.
We left the bar and I took her to Lucifer for some drinks and dancing. She still seemed a bit shy and I wanted her to warm up to me. We had a nice time, drinking laughing, dancing a bit. My efforts were rewarded my some nice kissing at the bar and we decided to go home. To make a long story short we have a fantastic time at my place. Very GFE and very personal. She definitely put me under the illusion that she was into me. What a little ball of sunshine she is! We connected on a personal level, sh eeen showed me pictures of herself form a couple of years ago when she was a bit overweight. She has slimmed down very nicely while retaining some curves. And the boobs! They are just amazing. The experience was memorable well worth the money. It ranks with some of the best sex I've had and I get my fair share and have a hot girlfriend back home (Ploi was very impressed when I showed her her pic). She begged me to take her the next night, and was happy when I promised to take her again before I left. I definitely will be back. Just thinking about her amazing natural boobies and that little smile of hers gets my head swimming.
She totally wore me out and I stayed in yesterday to do some work, catch up on some sleep form all the travel. Now I am revitalized and ready to get back on the hose! The plan tonight is to try the old freelance route again. If that doesn't work out I may go to airplane or another GoGo and pay the tithe like a good monger LOL. I am still optimistic about the possibilities for good FL action. There were a lot of very cute single girls at Lucifer the other night that were friendly, but I was happily preoccupied with my Ploi. Can't wait to give this a try tonight!
To make a long story short, I am still testing the waters here. The FL scene seems hit and miss, but I guess this was true last time too. One thing I did notice is that the streets are swarming with Middle Eastern mongers. I don't mean to offend anyone, but they look a bit unkempt and dodgy to me and I understand the girls don't really like them. I wonder if their presence has adversely affected the FL scene. One thing is for sure, I'd hate to be here during Cobra Gold. I could see some serious carnage breaking out.
Thanks for reading and I hope you guys find this useful. I'd appreciate any suggestions form more experienced and skilled mongers. And I promise to keep posting.
Cheers!
Uncle V
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Thanks Greg, you've given me a lot to think about, and I've slept on it and pondered a bit before responding.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Actually these are rather interesting questions.
As someone else said the ultimate answer lies with what sort of person you are. There are many young guys 18-25 who do come to Pattaya who give every indication of having a great time. They typically have alot of "mates", like getting drunk, clubbing and scoring with off duty bar/gogo girls. By and large there is not alot of interaction or mutual respect between these guys and the 35-70 year old guys who i suspect predominate on ISG.[/QUOTE]I see where you are going with this. Just to make it clear, I do not in any way associate myself with any of these idiots. I fully agree with you that there must not be much interaction between these two age groups, though it is kind of sad. This however doesn't mean there can't be relationships here. I see myself as a very laid back kind of guy. The young guys you describe are exactly the kind of people I detest. Their "friends" are anything but and enjoy playing practical jokes on their "friends" and others expense. They make it look bad for the rest of us and I will be at disadvantages based of first impressions and experiences other people have had with people my age. Although I do like dancing, I like traditional dancing - swing actually (I assume many of you in America will know what I mean), and I do not like doff doff music to any particular degree. I dislike drinking excessively and can only handle a maximum of about 5-6 shots a night. After which I'm usually pissed beyond measure (I'm a Very skinny bloke.) I do not like getting intoxicated and would rather a quite bar enjoying the scenery (girls) while I sip on a whiskey or scotch.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm sure many of you would not like to associate yourself with one as young as myself. (I don't really understand it because I'm not old enough to imagine it the other way around, but I respect your opinions.) But I believe that on the whole, I would have a lot more respect and interaction with the older blokes or expats, than with the young stupid crowd.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]
I think if you are a more introspective young guy - as would seem to be evidenced by your questions and very appearance on ISG then there is a very real possibility that Pattaya may negatively influence your attitude towards women. Pattaya I think appeals to mindless younger men and jaded older men.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if I would be negatively influenced or not by visiting LOS. I have no qualms about using the FFF principle, and I've done it before down here in Oz. In my mind, all I can really do is go and find out. It will be a once in a lifetime experience is all I know. The first time in LOS is always such. How I perceive woman currently is relationship material and non-relationship material. It's like this. I would never seriously date a girl from the many bars and nightclubs I sometimes go to down here. To me these girls are shallow and are nothing but fuck material. However, when I meet someone who likes studying or is in a respectable job, I appreciate the fact there are girls around that don't have the emotional range of a 2 year old. However, I am not up for such heavy emotional constraints and commitments, and would rather enjoy myself now, when I'm in my prime.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]
Speaking for myself, I would not have appreciated / enjoyed Pattaya as a young man. If I could choose a holiday for a 19 year old me, I think I would go to Philippines and hook up with a 18-20 year old college girl there and take her for a trip around Palawan to Honda Bay and El Nido. Why? Because it's really difficult to find a decent girl in Pattaya. The girls get very jaded, very quickly. The younger ones who will generally have just showed up from Essan will often speak negligible English. In the Phils you can probably find a genuinely delightful young college girl who speaks English well and you can genuinely relate too and who will also fuck your brains out. If you play it smart you can probably try a few of her friends too. If you take her to Palawan you can see some of the most stunning scenery in Asia. Of course you will miss out on the endless bars and pool huge numbers of girls and discos of Pattaya so it depends on your tastes and needs.[/QUOTE]
Your suggestions intrigue me. I have many questions floating around my head but I will refrain for voicing most of them, to save cluttering up the Pattaya thread. The holiday you describe would be an enjoyable experience. I am now debating over where to go because of your post. The way I see the differences are in terms of risk and effort.
Concerning risk (By what you describe), the chance of me getting emotionally attached to a girl in Phil is far grater then if I went to Pattaya (I can employ FFF But I'm human not a stone). I definitely do not want to stay in contact with any girls when I come back, and I do not have the means to support anyone. So although it would be more enjoyable, there would also be risk involved. The first few pages on the Phil forums showed me that many members support GF's from there and one other is dealing with a pregnancy from a few nights stay. These all bring up flags in my mind.
The other is effort. I really don't want to chase after girls and go the whole nine yards just to get some bimbo in bed. That's the whole reason I want to leave Australia. If it is very easy to do so for one such as myself then there wouldn't be a problem, but I have no experience to tell otherwise.
There are a few other things I've been reading that lend light to LOS over Phil - mostly stuff about the security and quality of food. From what I've read, Thailand is on the Up due to market forces while Phile is a dump. Don't know if this is true or not. I would imagine I would be reasonably safe among the throngs over other Ferangs in the main areas of Pattaya. It's funny, when I first found out about all this stuff I originally only knew about Angeles, and that's where I wanted to go originally although I've heard that's not the best idea for a first timer. Also, I'm not buff, a strong wind will blow me over which is not exactly a good thing when you're alone in a foreign country.
So yeah, that's where I'm at at the moment. I would PM you but I'm not sure if you are a member as I noticed one of your other posts. You seem to have much experience in the Philippines. You could PM me, but I still need to register too.
Cheers,
Strider
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[QUOTE=Eagle_I]Hi Goldenam,
Don't mean to rain on your parade, but I think you need to discuss your surprise with your GF before booking.
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Maybe I'm over analysing the situation?
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Mates,
I really appreciate all of your comments. And you're right "Eagle_I", surely I have to talk to my GF about it! But first. I need to make up my minds and make my own decision if am I going to Pattaya with her, or rather alone. That is why I asked you for your thoughts and comments. It helps me a lot to see different aspects that I would certainly miss without your answers. Many thanks again, I will keep informing you and will send a report after visiting LOS as my small contribution to this great forum.
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[QUOTE=Leeuw]Hey Striderani,
When are you going?
I'm 24 and going there in August. Perhaps we can hook up.[/QUOTE]sorry but won't be going then. August is no go for me. I'm not sure if that's high or low season. I'd rather go low season. Have fun anyways. I'm planning on going sometime from Sept - Feb. Depends on what happens down here.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]I hope I can do my part here to contribute to the good info...And I promise to keep posting.[/QUOTE]Hi Uncle V - great report! You're right about the hit-and-miss nature of the FL scene on WS, but it's also hit and miss in the gogo bars. But as you did, you built a rapport first, which helps reduce the risks. Looking forward to your future reports.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]One thing is for sure, I'd hate to be here during Cobra Gold. I could see some serious carnage breaking out.[/QUOTE]Remarkably it usually doesn't. The current crop of young US military guys tend to be surprisingly well behaved when they come here. And whenever they aren't, there are plenty of MPs around to keep the peace.
In my experience, the usual kind of drunken Pattaya tourist yob is a whole lot more likely to cause trouble.
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Afternoon Stroll
[QUOTE=Kumbu]Hi Uncle V - great report! You're right about the hit-and-miss nature of the FL scene on WS, but it's also hit and miss in the gogo bars. But as you did, you built a rapport first, which helps reduce the risks. Looking forward to your future reports.[/QUOTE]Thanks Kumbu. I admire your flowery prose. it made good reading on the way over here.
I spent the afternoon shopping in the big malls. A lot of very pretty girls but I didn't really have a chance to approach. I wasn't sure if I'd get slapped in the face or something LOL Anyone have any luck here?
Walked the length of Beach Rd in the afternoon. Some WGs but nothing to write home about or to take home for that matter. Same situation on walking street. I think the girls are busy eating and preparing for the night ahead so it's not the best time to monger.
On the way back to the Condo, I hit Jomtien complex again to check out the interior. Again, dominated by fugglies. A tablefull of decently cute girls did give me the"Hello Welcome" and I sat down to rest my feet and have a beer. Ended up buying one of the girls a drink. Damn cute with a nice curvy body. But not super friendly. I caught them in the middle of dinner, I think this was the problem. No touchy-feely on her part. But the girls did offer to share their food, which was very nice of them. I gave the Som Tam a try just to be polite. After downing the beer I said my polite goodbyes and thanked the ladies for their company. The girl suggested I barfine her but I was not feeling the rapport with her. But I may come back at a better time and give it a shot.
Back in the condo now and getting some rest for the big night. The plan is to hit up Lucifer and check out the FL scene. But I plan to be there no earlier than midnight. Will post my "findings" LOL
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Strider, as one who lives in the Philippines and who used to work in Thailand, I suggest you select Thailand for your initial trip. Women aside, it's just a more interesting, culturally enriching place and, in my opinion, Thai cuisine is among the finest in the world, while that of the Philippines is, sadly, among the worst. You can always experience to total GFE so characteristic of the PI during a subsequent trip.
I'm not sure I understand the debate about the establishment of rapport, if not relationships, between older and younger guys. What's the problem here? Surely intellectual rapprochement is more important than age differences. I'm in my mid-sixties and have friends here ranging from their early 20's to deep in their 70's and it's never been an issue.
GE
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Struck Gold!
Hi guys! Here is the promised update. What a night!
As mentioned in the last post, the plan was to try and score a weekend FL at one of the discos. I hit walking street around midnight, and it was chaotic as usual. Also more humid than usual. Even to the point o being difficult to breather. To make matters worse, there isn't a lot of good talent on the street, either. I hit up Lucifer next, and things there were also slow, though I did get approached by some descent lookers. But I was not ready to settle so early.
I gave Tony's disco a try. Some kind of trouble at the door wiht some young Turks (literaly). But I whizzed right by and the doorman and staffed acted like I was Tony's brother or something. A bit weird but OK. Inside was a total mess. It's so damn dark you can't tell who is who (or who is grabing you for that matter). I don't want to have to gnaw my arm off in the morning to get out of there LOL. Also an ugly scene with a middle eastern guy violently grabbing this girl sand then ejected by bouncers. So I decided to bounce myself and head up th estreet to the Walking Street Disco and check things out.
Normally these places aren't really my bag. I've kind of outgrown clubs. They are too loud, you have to wrestle your way to the bar to get a drink, the music is usually awful and there is always a bit of an aggressive vibe on the part of the dudes and standofishness fomr th ecicks. I don't go to these places back home so why the hell shoudl I do so in Thailand. But I have to admit the scene here was really good. Wall to wall hotties and very friendly. Also the music wasn't too atrocious either. Definitesly a place to do business.
So I squeeze my way to the bar and order a beer. As I turn around I spot this young lovely. Tall, fit and thin, smoking body. Nice smile and siamese kitty cat eyes. I go over and introduce myself. She is there with her friend (who is a bit of a hand grenade, but oh well). I buy the ladies a couple of beers and we start getting down on the dance floor. My girl is a very sexy dancer and we have some great fun. Another round of beers and we are grinding and sh gives me a nice full kiss. Life is good!
I haven't had dinner and all this is giving me an appetite, so I invite the ladies to have a bite to eat with me. We go over to beer garden and order some food. Pretty good fare. Not spicy enough for my taste, but they do give good Western portions. I couldn't even finish mine (though in all honesty I ma more concentrated on entertaining the ladies and chatting up my sweetie. She tells me that she just broke up with her Falang boyfriend and that it has been taking her a long time to get over him. My efforts do not go unrewarded. As the friend leaved to go to the ladies' room we start kissing a bit. Very nice.
At this point I ask if she's like to come home with me and she says she would like to very much. I do not bring up the issue of money as I di dnot want to offend her. I wasn't quite sure where this was leading and if I had maybe scored a "freebie" (I use quotes because we all know this more often than not ends us costing us more in the long run.) But I am ready to roll with it and to see where this leads. It wouldn't be a bad thing to get to know people in this town that are out of the game.
So we decide to go over to marine disco and do a bit of dancng with her friends. A very nice group of girls (a couple of them are lookers in their own right). They are very deferential to me as I guess she said some nice things about them to me in Thai. My honey goes wild on the dancefloor. Gyrating to the beat like a pro. Again she has a very lithe and thin body with a nice set of silicones (not too big). she is really into it an this begins tiring us bth out so we decide to go back to my place. BTW marine is also full of nice looking girls too. What the boys in the service call a "target friendly environment". LOL
To cut to the chase we have an absolutely lovely time, with some smoking loving thrown in. Very passionate and tender. Another GFE, but a bit more "real" than the last one. I almost believe her when she tells me that she has not had a man in a while. We also talk a bit an she tells me more about her life. She has her own Condo and is opening a laundry business with some other girls. She also is 28 with a 7 year old daughter. Which is absolutely hard to believe. She is built like a teen athlete with not an ounce of fat on her. Good genes I guess. And all that sexy dancing too.
We have some more fun in the morning and she goes off to meet her friends to scout some locations for her business. Before she leaves I give her 1000 BHT "for the taxi". She takes it a little reluctantly. I get her number and promise to call her. I am thinking of even taking her and her daughter out to Monkey Island in a day or two. It would feel good to do something nice for her, and frankly I could use the company too.
All in all a great experience. I think I found a winner here. She kept looking at me googly eyed all morning and parting really was "sweet sorrow", as they say. After we finished making love this morning she even told me that she had given in to me too easy. I may have even gotten away without giving her money. But I do want to do right by her and to still keep this on a professional level, though in a discrete way. I am not looking for a Thai girlfriend that I am obligated to spend my (not so) hard earned cash to. I have enough trouble on this front at home with my young girlfriend LOL
But it would be nice to have some fun with someone that is not so mercenary. I just don't want her to develop expectations. I still want to hook up with some other fine young things while I am here. Also need to visit DD one of these days too!
After a sub-stellar start, life is good at this point and I am having a ball. Will post as the story develops.
Stay horny my friends!
Uncle V
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Yooungsters
[quote=goodenough]strider, as one who lives in the philippines and who used to work in thailand, i suggest you select thailand for your initial trip. women aside, it's just a more interesting, culturally enriching place and, in my opinion, thai cuisine is among the finest in the world, while that of the philippines is, sadly, among the worst. you can always experience to total gfe so characteristic of the pi during a subsequent trip.
i'm not sure i understand the debate about the establishment of rapport, if not relationships, between older and younger guys. what's the problem here? surely intellectual rapprochement is more important than age differences. i'm in my mid-sixties and have friends here ranging from their early 20's to deep in their 70's and it's never been an issue.
ge[/quote]
i agree with the points ge makes but with the following addendum.
1 personally i would say that the ideal holiday for a thinking young horny guy is a gfe type trip around thailand with a young girl in tow. ge is right about the food and culture comparison between thai and pi (though there are parts of pi of exceptional beauty). pattaya is in my view a place for the jaded and cynical re male-female relations and i think if you are 19 there is plenty of time to get jaded later on. the difficulty is that a nice gfe is rather more difficult to find in thailand than in phils.
2 i would agree with ge that intellectual rapprochement does trump age differences. however both pattaya and pi are very unusual places in that for westerners with an atm card, there is a superabundance of nubile and willing young girls. back in the real world there is always an excess of demand over supply for such girls (from a narrow age band) because they are attractive to men of all ages. this sets up a fundamental conflict between older guys with (as a generalisation) money and status and younger guys with (as a generalisation), looks, fitness and a rapport with girls a few years younger than themselves.
warning: if you are not here for anything deeper than the going rate for a bj at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], you may wish to skip the remainder of this post lol
my view is that this conflict between younger and older guys competing for the attention of a relatively small number of nubile young girls is a much overlooked but critical aspect of social structures. as a generalisation the greater the degree of egalitarianism in a society the stronger the hand of younger guys. specifically if young guys are able to earn enough income to maintain and support a family, then women will tend to prefer dating and marrying guys a few years their senior. this was probably the case in our evolutionary past where many of our psychological dispositions would have been shaped. if one looks at hunter gatherer tribes, one typically finds median age gaps between partners or around 7 years and monogamy predominates. in these societies there is little possibility to store and accumulate wealth and fit young bucks maybe just as proficient hunters as more wiley old timers. it was the agricultural revolution of around 11000 years ago (unless you are one of those guys from the bible belt who believes that ussher correctly pinned down the creation of the earth to 23 oct 4004bc lol) that changed this as well as so many other things. if one looks at primitive agricultural societies (and i don't mean kansas), the median age gap between partners expands to around 15 years. in such societies young guys (under 30) are more or less excluded from officially taking wives (though they can often get away with illicit sex) as you need time to accumulate wealth in the form of cows and cultivated land to hand over to her parents and support your often multiple wives. industrialisation and democratisation have reversed this trend. in western countries, most young guys are able to find a job (or have benefits entitlements) that pays sufficiently well to bring up a family. in the west therefore the average age gap between first time marriage partners is just 2-3 years. the inevitable result of this is that unless you are seriously wealthy, famous or otherwise exceptional, if you are 40+ you are de facto excluded from the 18-25 sexy young girls market. this of course is the attraction for so many more mature western guys to vacation or retire in countries such as thailand or philippines where they can arbitrage international differences in economic performance and thus attract much younger and prettier women than they can do back home. thailand is getting richer and its now much harder to find high quality girls willing to accept huge age gaps than it was 20 years ago. the phils for various reasons has been stagnating economically for 30 years so there is a far greater tolerance of huge age gaps there.
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[QUOTE=Striderani]
There are a few other things I've been reading that lend light to LOS over Phil - mostly stuff about the security and quality of food. From what I've read, Thailand is on the Up due to market forces while Phile is a dump. Don't know if this is true or not. I would imagine I would be reasonably safe among the throngs over other Ferangs in the main areas of Pattaya. It's funny, when I first found out about all this stuff I originally only knew about Angeles, and that's where I wanted to go originally although I've heard that's not the best idea for a first timer. Also, I'm not buff, a strong wind will blow me over which is not exactly a good thing when you're alone in a foreign country.
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If the main reason for traveling is for pussy then its best to understand/decide which type of girl you want to fuck? Thai or Filipina? They are very different. Apples and oranges. The rest of the stuff to worry about is not important until you decide which pussy you want first.
People love to compare thailand and philippines, but they are really two totally different animals.
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The pot is about to call the kettle black
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]I think I found a winner here. She kept looking at me googly eyed all morning and parting really was "sweet sorrow", as they say. After we finished making love this morning she even told me that she had given in to me too easy. I may have even gotten away without giving her money. But I do want to do right by her and to still keep this on a professional level, though in a discrete way.[/QUOTE]
Uncle V, congratulations on hitting the jackpot. Now, far be it for [b]ME[/b] to lecture you about the dangers of connecting with a girl in this way (that would be laughable, if it weren't so sad), but my friend, I urge you to play the field some more before you settle for this girl. I am sure this is what you have planned (given your history), so I am not worried, but I know from personal experience that when you get into this 'Struck Gold' mode, it is easy to fall off the edge.
Here's another point. It is easy for girls to impress you on the first date. They put all their energy in putting up that perfect illusion, and we, gullible idiots that we are, fall for it every time (well, maybe not all of us, and maybe not every time, but you get my point). But it is only on later encounters that her true colors will be revealed.
Case in point. A year ago, I met a FL in Insomnia. She was...da...bomb. I mean, she was as hot as they get, and we did it all night. I came back the next weekend and spent two full days and nights with her in bed...it was awesome. Then on the third weekend, she decided it was time for us to make the rounds of all the gogo bars so she could show them my face, hence black ball me from all future sex in Pattaya. She did this is such a sly way: "Tilak, I never go agogo bar, you want to take me?" Stupid me, never having been in this position before, and not consulting with the smart people on the ISG, was thinking this meant something kinky. Far from it.
Furthermore, if I so much as looked at her best friend, my girl would go totally bonkers. She was convinced that I wanted to fuck the best friend (who was physically hideous, actually), but my girl would throw long, angry fits over this. After two days of this, I bailed.
My point: things look great now while she thinks that you are not in her clutches yet. Don't let her go by any means - keep her and enjoy the warmth and googly eyes for all they are worth, but just see if you can keep yourself in that little niche where she is still trying to make you hers. If you can put yourself into that niche, I think you will see great pleasures emerge.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]People love to compare thailand and philippines, but they are really two totally different animals.[/QUOTE]
How so? Could you elaborate?
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]How so? Could you elaborate?[/QUOTE]
For starters the girls are different.
Have a look at some thai and filipina porn on the net (video and pics).
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]... Before she leaves I give her 1000 BHT "for the taxi". She takes it a little reluctantly. I get her number and promise to call her...[/QUOTE]
So far, you've managed the situation quite well IMHO, but it's almost 100% certain that this girl is looking for a Farang husband / regular boyfriend / sponsor. I guess that it was her former Farang boyfriend(s) who paid for her condo and boob job. She's not a mercenary, but a very clever girl, methinks...
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[QUOTE=Striderani]... However, I am not up for such heavy emotional constraints and commitments, and would rather enjoy myself now, when I'm in my prime...[/QUOTE]
Even if you are young and probably not engaged yet in your own country, just pretend to be engaged or married at home when speaking with P4P girls in Thailand: it should be enough for you to avoid most of the emotional involvement with them and they should not "fall in love" as easily with you than if you were "officially" single. You will then have the same fun (maybe even more), but without the (real or fake) love stories, and a lot less jealousy from the girls if you want to be a "butterfly" during your stay.
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heh, you guys have given me a lot to think about. sorta making this harder then i thought it would be, but i'm glad i got to explore myself in this way to find out exactly what i'm after. good thing i decided to post now, and not 2 days before my flight.
[quote=goodenough]strider, as one who lives in the philippines and who used to work in thailand, i suggest you select thailand for your initial trip. women aside, it's just a more interesting, culturally enriching place and, in my opinion, thai cuisine is among the finest in the world, while that of the philippines is, sadly, among the worst. you can always experience to total gfe so characteristic of the pi during a subsequent trip.
i'm not sure i understand the debate about the establishment of rapport, if not relationships, between older and younger guys. what's the problem here? surely intellectual rapprochement is more important than age differences. i'm in my mid-sixties and have friends here ranging from their early 20's to deep in their 70's and it's never been an issue.
ge[/quote]
thanks ge, i think i will be going to thailand first. i did a bit more reading before posting, mainly comparisons between los and pi and i discovered that this i actually quite an old topic. for this reason i think we would all appreciate it if we did not dwell on this topic for to long. i think the only way anyone would be able to say for sure which one is better would be to go to both places. it depends so much on your personality and views as well as your experience there. i think i will add another trip to pi when i finish my uni degree. best. graduation. ever.
[quote=greglondon]i agree with the points ge makes but with the following addendum.
1 personally i would say that the ideal holiday for a thinking young horny guy is a gfe type trip around thailand with a young girl in tow. ge is right about the food and culture comparison between thai and pi (though there are parts of pi of exceptional beauty). pattaya is in my view a place for the jaded and cynical re male-female relations and i think if you are 19 there is plenty of time to get jaded later on. the difficulty is that a nice gfe is rather more difficult to find in thailand than in phils.
2 i would agree with ge that intellectual rapprochement does trump age differences. however both pattaya and pi are very unusual places in that for westerners with an atm card, there is a superabundance of nubile and willing young girls. back in the real world there is always an excess of demand over supply for such girls (from a narrow age band) because they are attractive to men of all ages. this sets up a fundamental conflict between older guys with (as a generalisation) money and status and younger guys with (as a generalisation), looks, fitness and a rapport with girls a few years younger than themselves.
warning: if you are not here for anything deeper than the going rate for a bj at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url], you may wish to skip the remainder of this post lol
my view is that this conflict between younger and older guys competing for the attention of a relatively small number of nubile young girls is a much overlooked but critical aspect of social structures. as a generalisation the greater the degree of egalitarianism in a society the stronger the hand of younger guys. specifically if young guys are able to earn enough income to maintain and support a family, then women will tend to prefer dating and marrying guys a few years their senior. this was probably the case in our evolutionary past where many of our psychological dispositions would have been shaped. if one looks at hunter gatherer tribes, one typically finds median age gaps between partners or around 7 years and monogamy predominates. in these societies there is little possibility to store and accumulate wealth and fit young bucks maybe just as proficient hunters as more wiley old timers. it was the agricultural revolution of around 11000 years ago (unless you are one of those guys from the bible belt who believes that ussher correctly pinned down the creation of the earth to 23 oct 4004bc lol) that changed this as well as so many other things. if one looks at primitive agricultural societies (and i don't mean kansas), the median age gap between partners expands to around 15 years. in such societies young guys (under 30) are more or less excluded from officially taking wives (though they can often get away with illicit sex) as you need time to accumulate wealth in the form of cows and cultivated land to hand over to her parents and support your often multiple wives. industrialisation and democratisation have reversed this trend. in western countries, most young guys are able to find a job (or have benefits entitlements) that pays sufficiently well to bring up a family. in the west therefore the average age gap between first time marriage partners is just 2-3 years. the inevitable result of this is that unless you are seriously wealthy, famous or otherwise exceptional, if you are 40+ you are de facto excluded from the 18-25 sexy young girls market. this of course is the attraction for so many more mature western guys to vacation or retire in countries such as thailand or philippines where they can arbitrage international differences in economic performance and thus attract much younger and prettier women than they can do back home. thailand is getting richer and its now much harder to find high quality girls willing to accept huge age gaps than it was 20 years ago. the phils for various reasons has been stagnating economically for 30 years so there is a far greater tolerance of huge age gaps there.[/quote]
hmm, haven't really thought of it that way. i didn't mean to make an argument, just establish my views over the subject. i fully agree with your points and i can sorta see where you're coming from. all i can say is that i hope to meet some of you guys one day and make some friends in the isg community. hopefully we'll all get along and not fight over a girl, god knows how many there are in los i'm not sure it would be worth it.
[quote=amjeck]if the main reason for traveling is for pussy then its best to understand/decide which type of girl you want to fuck? thai or filipina? they are very different. apples and oranges. the rest of the stuff to worry about is not important until you decide which pussy you want first.
people love to compare thailand and philippines, but they are really two totally different animals.[/quote]
haha! i had a look at some thai and fili porn to see if i could make out some differences. couldn't really notice any serious differences, i think i would need to see them face to face to make firm impressions. however i did notice that phili's had more variety and while there were many i would not fuck; when there was one that i would, she was gorgeous. on the thailand side i noticed that there were many i would fuck but still consider average/slightly above average, apart from the gorgeous ones/ugly ones. note that this was my impressions from about 2 hours of porn so it's probably not accurate or conclusive in any way, at all.
[quote=goyave]even if you are young and probably not engaged yet in your own country, just pretend to be engaged or married at home when speaking with p4p girls in thailand: it should be enough for you to avoid most of the emotional involvement with them and they should not "fall in love" as easily with you than if you were "officially" single. you will then have the same fun (maybe even more), but without the (real or fake) love stories, and a lot less jealousy from the girls if you want to be a "butterfly" during your stay.[/quote]
perfect! a beautiful pearl of wisdom goyave. i will be sure to use it. didn't think of doing this at all.
i think my plan so far is to go to bkk for a few nights, try to pick up a gf and see some sights with her (i hope not planning anything won't be too much of a problem), and if that fails, i always have pattaya to fall back on.
cheers, strider.
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Phil / Thai girls
[QUOTE=Striderani]
Haha! I had a look at some Thai and Fili porn to see if I could make out some differences. Couldn't really notice any serious differences, I think I would need to see them face to face to make firm impressions. However I did notice that Phili's had more variety and while there were many I would not fuck; when there was one that I would, she was gorgeous. On the Thailand side I noticed that there were many I would fuck but still consider average/slightly above average, apart from the gorgeous ones/ugly ones. Note that this was my impressions from about 2 hours of porn so it's probably not accurate or conclusive in any way, at all.
Cheers, Strider.[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised that someone thought the most significant difference between Thailand and Philippines was the girls looks. In my view the differences in appearance are relatively modest. For what its worth in my view the AVERAGE Thai girl is cuter than the AVERAGE Filipina and I could rank Cambodian girls ahead of Thais and Vietnamese ahead of any of the rest.
HOWEVER, the girls that I spend my time with in the Phils are FAR more sexy, attractive and fun to be with than in those other countries, because in the phils I am spending my time with Middle class students whereas in the other countries it is mostly poor girls that have gone into the sex trade.
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[QUOTE=Striderani]Good thing I decided to post now, and not 2 days before my flight.[/QUOTE]With respect, why not just relax, come over to this part of the world, try both Thailand and the Philippines (and maybe a few more) and then make your own judgments? I understand the urge to know as much as possible before you get here, but frankly none of it counts for anything before you're on the ground and experiencing things for yourself.
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RE: Struck Gold (Digger?)
Many thanks for the warnings my friends.
Yes I am playing this one carefully and trying not to get too attached emotionally. It helps that I have a great girl friend to go home to in the USA. Also that I am quite a cynical SOB. But not Jaded. I still find joy in life. In fact I am having quite a bit of fun matching wits with these cute little girls and their machinations. If you look at it form a little detached perspective it is quite amusing.
So I have had another lazy day. I called my little Gold (Digger) up and we had a nice romantic dinner in the beach here in Jomtien. Very nice with the sunset and great food delivered right to our beach chairs. Way too much food and drink to even finish. All for around 700 Baht. We went back to the very nice condo I am renting and had a passionate session, just as good as yesterday. She is fast asleep now as I write this. Damn I can't get enough of her tight little body!
Anyhow I am taking her and her daughter to that Monkey Island tomorrow. I thin it should be fun. I will have to be carefull to edit the pics so hta tI can present them to the GF back home. I plan to take break tomorrow night and venture out into the scene. A few chicks have already caugh tmy eye today as we lunged in the beach. Like I said I am a true SOB :)
Thanks to Kumbu for sharing his experience. I was thinking along the same lines. I won't make the mistake of doing a bar tour with her. If we do meet up again after it will be on my terms and in the comfort of my little oasis here in Jomtien.
Stay horny my friends!
Uncle V
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[QUOTE=Betong]With respect, why not just relax, come over to this part of the world, try both Thailand and the Philippines (and maybe a few more) and then make your own judgments? I understand the urge to know as much as possible before you get here, but frankly none of it counts for anything before you're on the ground and experiencing things for yourself.[/QUOTE]
This is very good advice. So much of this is just so subjective. You have to live it yourself and to make your own judgments. Everyone is just too different when ti comes to love, sex, and the other intimate stuff.
The board is a great starter to get a sens of the good places to find willing ladies and the pitfalls to avoid. But everyone has their own expectations about what constitutes a stunner or what a GFE entails.
Personally, Thailand is just great for me. I was also thinking of Pi. But it just doesn't compare in terms of culture, food, nature. At least form what I have heard. I am more than happy with the girls I have hooked up with here.
But to each his own. Life is short and it is really all about experiences. You just gotta get out there and roll the dice, my friend. I am sure you will have a great time no matter what you choice.
Just make sure to have fun!
Uncle V
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Nice! Didn't expect my post to go up as quick as it did. Looks like the mods are getting used to me. XD.
Wasn't expecting quick responses either.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I'm surprised that someone thought the most significant difference between Thailand and Philippines was the girls looks. In my view the differences in appearance are relatively modest. For what its worth in my view the AVERAGE Thai girl is cuter than the AVERAGE Filipina and I could rank Cambodian girls ahead of Thais and Vietnamese ahead of any of the rest.
HOWEVER, the girls that I spend my time with in the Phils are FAR more sexy, attractive and fun to be with than in those other countries, because in the phils I am spending my time with Middle class students whereas in the other countries it is mostly poor girls that have gone into the sex trade.[/QUOTE]Heh, the only reason I did so because it was suggested by Amjeck. I know they are completely different in terms of personality, but I could hardly get any ideas of their personality by watching porn. I would definitely like to try the philie's. I'm sure I will have a great time. TBH, I think I'm just a little scared. I've only been overseas once before, and that was when I was 5 with my parents to Sicily, Italy to meet the family, no sight seeing, though I hardly remember much. Being all alone in a harsh world is a bit daunting for someone that hasn't experienced it before. I will just have keep my wits about me as I travel off into the great unknown.
[QUOTE=Betong]With respect, why not just relax, come over to this part of the world, try both Thailand and the Philippines (and maybe a few more) and then make your own judgments? I understand the urge to know as much as possible before you get here, but frankly none of it counts for anything before you're on the ground and experiencing things for yourself.[/QUOTE]I agree. I'm greatly satisfied with the responses you guys have given me so far. I know now where to go If I have any questions, you guys seem like a reliable bunch. I guess it's just me being the young one I am, always asking questions. LOL. I can only assume it's because there aint nobody at home I can talk to about this stuff, I'm sure you all understand.
There was one question I had but I've seemed to forgotten it. I'll post it if I remember but I doubt it.
Good luck with your girl Uncle V. May you savor the moment as long as it lasts.
Cheers,
Strider
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Depends what you're into, I guess.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]I'm surprised that someone thought the most significant difference between Thailand and Philippines was the girls looks. In my view the differences in appearance are relatively modest. [/QUOTE]
For an asian girl connoisseur, there is a huge difference between Thais and Filipinas. There are big differences within Thailand as well ie. mixes like: thai/lao, thai/chinese, thai/cambodian, thai/burmese etc. When you've got yellow fever you tend to relish the different asian mixes.
But for me one of the biggest differences between Thais and Filipinas is that filipinas are fatter and they hold their weight in their bellies. Thais hold their weight throughout the body (better proportions).
Also (IMO):
Thais have long slimmer bodies with tight legs and butts. Filipinas are wider and rounder, and have bigger tits. The eye and face structure is different also. Thais have narrower eyes. Filipinas eyes are wider (spanish influence). Thai girls age better than Filipinas. Filipinas drop drastically at about 22. Thais can hold it to about 26.
When I'm in Thailand, I feel like I'm surrounded by Asians. When I'm in PI, I feel like I'm surrounded by Latins.
Best thing to do is just fuck both of them. They're both fun. IMO, as far as p4p goes, Thailand wins big time over PI. Philippines wins on the girlfriend thing. If you're looking for love, go to PI. To each his own
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Exchange Rates
Hi everyone...can someone pls tell me what would be the right place to exchange some Euro's .
Arriving at BKK airport on the 17th and straight to pattaya from there...so its either at the aiport or somewhere in pattaya.
Would like to know the place to where i could get the best rates for Euro's.
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[QUOTE=Travelforfun]Hi everyone...can someone pls tell me what would be the right place to exchange some Euro's .
Arriving at BKK airport on the 17th and straight to pattaya from there...so its either at the aiport or somewhere in pattaya.
Would like to know the place to where i could get the best rates for Euro's.[/QUOTE]
I have found that the airport offers just as good rates as Pattaya. So change some up at the airport and then just look around in Pattaya places can vary day to day
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I'm surprised that someone thought the most significant difference between Thailand and Philippines was the girls looks. In my view the differences in appearance are relatively modest. For what its worth in my view the AVERAGE Thai girl is cuter than the AVERAGE Filipina and I could rank Cambodian girls ahead of Thais and Vietnamese ahead of any of the rest.
HOWEVER, the girls that I spend my time with in the Phils are FAR more sexy, attractive and fun to be with than in those other countries, because in the phils I am spending my time with Middle class students whereas in the other countries it is mostly poor girls that have gone into the sex trade.[/QUOTE]Yes this sums it up IMO. in Phil the girls you see on the street/mall are the girls you get.
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Nice observation
[QUOTE=Amjeck]For an asian girl connoisseur, there is a huge difference between Thais and Filipinas. There are big differences within Thailand as well ie. mixes like: thai/lao, thai/chinese, thai/cambodian, thai/burmese etc. When you've got yellow fever you tend to relish the different asian mixes.
But for me one of the biggest differences between Thais and Filipinas is that filipinas are fatter and they hold their weight in their bellies. Thais hold their weight throughout the body (better proportions).
Also (IMO):
Thais have long slimmer bodies with tight legs and butts. Filipinas are wider and rounder, and have bigger tits. The eye and face structure is different also. Thais have narrower eyes. Filipinas eyes are wider (spanish influence). Thai girls age better than Filipinas. Filipinas drop drastically at about 22. Thais can hold it to about 26.
When I'm in Thailand, I feel like I'm surrounded by Asians. When I'm in PI, I feel like I'm surrounded by Latins.
Best thing to do is just fuck both of them. They're both fun. IMO, as far as p4p goes, Thailand wins big time over PI. Philippines wins on the girlfriend thing. If you're looking for love, go to PI. To each his own[/QUOTE]
Nice observation. I would agree with all that. In terms of looks my personal favorites would be Vietnamese and Sichuan girls, but the VN girls are generally hopelessly commercial.
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I guess I'll never understand women
After a wonderful evening and a night when she kept clinging and huign me in her sleep, my little cutie woke up today and told me "something wrong" and she "have to go back loved her old boyfriend and tha tshe had to be alone.
Well, I guess the morning BJ is out of the question. LOL
I try to be a gentleman and consoled her. This led to a little bit of a makeout session, but I was very wary of where it was headed. As Powell told GW: "If you break it you by it". So I let her go, despite my raging morning wood.
Well, I really did not see that one coming. Maybe she is a "good girl" after all? O rmaybe this is just an elaborate ruse on her part? I guess I'll know if she calls me in a day or two.
In any case my dance card is freed up for tonight and I will be looking for a shoulder to cry on. Thank god I'm in Pattaya.
Stay horny my friends,
Uncle V
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[quote=uncle volodya]...in any case my dance card is freed up for tonight and i will be looking for a shoulder to cry on. thank god i'm in pattaya.
stay horny my friends,
uncle v[/quote]
you should stop by [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s this afternoon to take the edge off ... just a thought ... enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]For an asian girl connoisseur, there is a huge difference between Thais and Filipinas. There are big differences within Thailand as well ie. Mixes like: thai/lao, thai/Chinese, thai/Cambodian, thai/burmese etc. When you've got yellow fever you tend to relish the different asian mixes.
But for me one of the biggest differences between Thais and Filipinas is that filipinas are fatter and they hold their weight in their bellies. Thais hold their weight throughout the body (better proportions).
Also (IMO):
Thais have long slimmer bodies with tight legs and butts. Filipinas are wider and rounder, and have bigger tits. The eye and face structure is different also. Thais have narrower eyes. Filipinas eyes are wider (spanish influence). Thai girls age better than Filipinas. Filipinas drop drastically at about 22. Thais can hold it to about 26.
When I'm in Thailand, I feel like I'm surrounded by Asians. When I'm in PI, I feel like I'm surrounded by Latins.
Best thing to do is just fuck both of them. They're both fun. IMO, as far as p4p goes, Thailand wins big time over PI. Philippines wins on the girlfriend thing. If you're looking for love, go to PI. To each his own[/QUOTE]Amjeck,
I can totally agree your sight of view.
Long time I am now I asia and feel exactkly the same, so lets go ahead and lets enjoy the heaven of paradise.
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Not sure that I agree with the generalizations about the Filipina body types and shapes. As there are several variations on the theme in Thailand, so are there are here, where you've got Malay Filipino, Chinese Filipino, Tausugs, B'laans, Bonobos, Spanish-Filipinos, and other tribes and types too numerous to memorize and/or recount. Looks tend to vary widely between and among tribal/ethnic groups, and the body shape, skin tone, eyes, boobs, legs and asses vary with each one.
For me, the attraction differential between "typical" Thais and Filipinas is pretty much of a toss up, though for sure I agree that the P4P scene is infinitely better in Thailand and the whole girlfriend/sweetness thing infinitely better in the Philippines.
GE
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Casinos in Pattaya?
Just curious; any casinos in Pattaya?
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No...
[QUOTE=Nixonbd]Just curious; any casinos in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]
i don't think so. Gambling is illegal in Thailand.
If you really want to gamble, then you should visit the border Thailand/Cambodia...
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[QUOTE=Frankypanky]i don't think so. Gambling is illegal in Thailand.
If you really want to gamble, then you should visit the border Thailand/Cambodia...[/QUOTE]
Also you could go to Ranong in South Thailand. There are some low key brothels that a moto taxi could get you to for mongering. Burmese (Myanmar) providers.
And a 30 minute boat ride away is a casino in Myanmar.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]After a wonderful evening and a night when she kept clinging and huign me in her sleep, my little cutie woke up today and told me "something wrong" and she "have to go back loved her old boyfriend and tha tshe had to be alone.[/QUOTE]I don't think it was as hard for her to get over her old boyfriend as it was hard for her to get over him no longer sponsoring her. If someone was kicking you down with $300 or so every month then all of a sudden stopped doing it how much would you miss it? Those guys stick with the program of sending money for a few months then the mojo wears off and they come to their senses.
In a world of P4P, non-pros, or whatever, you have to have game. I always go with the "I like you, but I don't give a fuck" approach. For instance I am seeing the girl who works the desk at the hotel I stayed at before I got my own place. When I was gone from Thailand she was not calling or emailing me. When I returned to Thailand and stayed at the hotel I made it KNOWN as soon as I got there that I was on the way out to find a woman. As sure as shit I returned with one. The word spread fast. When I saw her the next day at the front desk she said, "so you have a girlfriend now." I told her no, but since I was not hearing from her that I found somebody. Now she understands the importance of keeping in contact with me and keeping my attention. (I mean I'm going to do the same shit anyway but I will be more discreet.)
Also with the pros. I can fuck all of my regulars without giving them anything. They look at me and think, "He doesn't give a fuck." For that they love me. They are used to guys groveling over them and putting them on a pedestal and staying with them everyday of their hard-earned vacation. I keep them on their toes. When I come in the disco they don't know what to expect. I always greet them of course and have a few words. Then I am off searching for new meat. (Hell, I can call them any time to fuck or hang out.) I still don't try to disrespect them though. I make a deal with my new meat and when they are not looking I disappear like David Copperfield with the new girl.
Back to your issue. You should have showed her that you didn't give a fuck before she had a chance to cut you off. That would have made her stick with you. Like you said, there is no understanding it. You just have to know that it is that way. You don't really have a chick until you make her cry. As Kumbu was saying his girl had a friend that she didn't like him looking at. Well I would have told her that I wanted to fuck her friend or at the very least I thought her friend was very attractive (regardless of how hideous she was).
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd]Just curious; any casinos in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Nothing available in Thailand unfortuately.
There are a couple of casi's in Manila if your keen on a destination with gambling and the odd's are rather good if your a Blackjack man.
The casi's there look like something from the 1970's and the rules are the same.
If you stick to basic strategy and follow the "surrender" rules and double downs when dealer has a 10 the odds are slightly in your favour. I played 5 sessions and won 4 of them. Downside is there isnt much to do otherwise and always had the feeling i had to watch my back in the street.
As mentioned there are casi's in Cambodia and on the border with Thailand which i may get the chance to check out on my next trip and see what the odd's are there.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
You don't really have a chick until you make her cry. .[/QUOTE]
Wow man. This is some cynical stuff.
I just can't make myself be that ruthless when it comes to girls. Business and politics yes. But not in love and sex. It takes all of the joy out of it for me.
But to each his own.
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Wow..
You must be quite the stud to have the women want you even more when you treat them like crap. You must be irresistible. How do you do it? Is it your warm personality or your irresistible good looks?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I don't think it was as hard for her to get over her old boyfriend as it was hard for her to get over him no longer sponsoring her. If someone was kicking you down with $300 or so every month then all of a sudden stopped doing it how much would you miss it? Those guys stick with the program of sending money for a few months then the mojo wears off and they come to their senses.
In a world of P4P, non-pros, or whatever, you have to have game. I always go with the "I like you, but I don't give a fuck" approach. For instance I am seeing the girl who works the desk at the hotel I stayed at before I got my own place. When I was gone from Thailand she was not calling or emailing me. When I returned to Thailand and stayed at the hotel I made it KNOWN as soon as I got there that I was on the way out to find a woman. As sure as shit I returned with one. The word spread fast. When I saw her the next day at the front desk she said, "so you have a girlfriend now. " I told her no, but since I was not hearing from her that I found somebody. Now she understands the importance of keeping in contact with me and keeping my attention. (I mean I'm going to do the same shit anyway but I will be more discreet.)
Also with the pros. I can fuck all of my regulars without giving them anything. They look at me and think, "He doesn't give a fuck. " For that they love me. They are used to guys groveling over them and putting them on a pedestal and staying with them everyday of their hard-earned vacation. I keep them on their toes. When I come in the disco they don't know what to expect. I always greet them of course and have a few words. Then I am off searching for new meat. (Hell, I can call them any time to fuck or hang out.) I still don't try to disrespect them though. I make a deal with my new meat and when they are not looking I disappear like David Copperfield with the new girl.
Back to your issue. You should have showed her that you didn't give a fuck before she had a chance to cut you off. That would have made her stick with you. Like you said, there is no understanding it. You just have to know that it is that way. You don't really have a chick until you make her cry. As Kumbu was saying his girl had a friend that she didn't like him looking at. Well I would have told her that I wanted to fuck her friend or at the very least I thought her friend was very attractive (regardless of how hideous she was).[/QUOTE]
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Maneuvers in the Dark
hey all.
thanks for your responses. it is good to hear from all you folks out there. i appreciate all the good perspectives we have on this form.
in the last installment i had just been spurned by my “freebie”, who was still hung up on her old bf. so back to the drawing board for me and to find a shoulder to cry on.
she left me horny as all hell, but i managed to calm down and get a little pressing work done. by 5 pm, with my work done, i was really in need of a release and decided to reward myself. so i decided to see what was on offer in the neighborhood in jomtien, before heading back to pattaya for the night. i had this girl in mind, fon, who i met at one of the bars in thejomtien complex, balrney stone. very cute, lilly white skin, with a curvy body and nice natural boobs. i posted about her a couple of days ago. but she was nowhere to be found and the girls at the bar said they had never heard of her. weird. i should have bf’d her the other day, but we really didn’t make a connection so i thought fuck it, i’ll come back when she isn’t so preoccupied. now she’s disappeared into thin air. this sucks because for me, she is really the only doable girl i have run across here in the jomtien bars. it would be good to get something cooking in my backyard. lol. i may try to see if i can catch up with her again this evening before i head out to walking street.
so i try the other bars and find absolutely no one i am attracted to. waste of a couple of hours. i come back home, cook up a little dinner, shower and shave and i am out the door and on walking street by 11pm.
again the plan is to try my fl luck and then if i strike out go to a gogo. the street is packed in anticipation of the finals. a lot of girls with little spanish flags made up on their cheek. i see a couple of very nice lookers by family mart. i take note of them for later. i am also starting to recognizes the same old faces in the line of girls that hang out at lucifer. it is super humid and very tiring to be walking around. so i decide to end my stroll and duck into walking street.
the scene is pretty dead and i realize i’ve come way too early. it’s really not worth it to be here before midnight. a couple of friendly girls start grabbing and feeling on my chest. i did judo and other sports for awhile when i was younger and have pretty developed pecs (or i guess som may call them man boobs lol). i like the attention but i’m not interested in taking either of them home. but we have a good laugh as i tell them that they can do this now for free , but next time i’ll charge. i make a couple rounds by the bar. spot one curvy and cute girl. we start to talk, but pass on her after further inspection. the face isn’t as cute up close. two girls catch my eye as they walk in and i make eye contact with one and she grabs my dick as she walks by. but again, she is into really my cup of tea. (jeeze, uncle v you’ve become picky as of late!) beers here are relatively cheap at 85bht, so i go to the bar to order what i figure to be my last drink before heading to one of the gogos.
so i am just kicking it by the bar, nursing my last beer, and this absolutely fantastic pair of girls walks in. the one i fancy has beautiful hair, a trim figure and is dressed classy-sexy in short cut jean shorts and a white linen shirt. her face is a nice mix of european and thai with big round eyes. her friend is sexy too, tall dark hair and much more traditionally asian looking. the girls occupy a spot opposite me, but don’t seem to be giving me the time of day. initially i'm reluctant to go over and talk to them. these girls seem young and i don’t want a repeat of the starfish experience form the first night. they also aren’t dressed like your typical waking street girls. they look more like the kind of girls you would see at the mall in bkk or something. but i just can’t keep my eyes off her and we keep playing the stare game for a while. eventually she raises her beer as if to toast me and i walk over and start chatting her up. she is very welcoming and friendly. i complement her on her hair and tell her she should be in a shampoo commercial and we laugh.
well, things are going good. we have a few laughs and dance for a bit. i order a round and we are grooving together. i have my hands all over her, and she isn’t as firm as i’d expected. but i am still digging on her exotic face and full beatifull hair. pretty soon she is grinding on me and we make out a little bit. i’m thinking: is this another freebie? but she burst my bubble by saying that she needs money to go with me. no big deal. i ask her to name a price and she says 1500. done! we finish our beers, say goodbye to her friend, who has easily found a guy, and we are off.
once i get her out into the light i realize she’s not quite the gem i thought i had found. a bit older (25) and the body isn’t as tight as i’d hoped. but she is still very cute and not to be kicked out of my bed. but still its amazing how much the dark lighting, a little beer, and one’s imagination can fool you. i had mistaken a 26 year old milf for a 19 year old schoolgirl. but there was no going back now. and we were clicking pretty well too. and she was still damn cute, though not the kind of girl i typically go for.
she was a bit tipsy and we continued drinking at my place and watched a bit of the game. we took our clothes off as soon as we got in. as expected the body was not super firm, but she did have some nice curves and nice ripe boobs. the sex was very, very good. she gets really into it and cums very easily and hard. i could feel her little pussy quiver. she gives fabulous head and is a great kisser too. we did it twice before passing out and then twice again in the morning. she complemented me on making her cum 4 times. has left me a bit drained today (no [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for me this afternoon lol). we went down and had breakfast and then i saw her off. she pressed on me to cal her again, but i managed to evade any promises on my part to do so.
overall a very nice experience i will be recalling again on some cold and lonely night. but i don’t think i’ll be taking her again. i’m not a real connoisseur of milfs and prefer my girls younger and firmer. she tells me she is at waling street almost every night of the week. so far this has been my favorite stomping ground. i’d hate to go back and pick up another girl in front of her. i know how jealous these girls can get (like siamese cats lol) and i’d hate to make a scene. do you guys think i am too worried about this? there are some real gems to be had at this place and i’d hate to have it off limits.
she says she will definitely be there tonight. so the plan for tonight may be to go back to the gogo for ploi or to take one of the “stewardesses” from airport. i also need to hit up dd at some point, but want to be well rested. and i may look for the jomtien cutie fon again. decisions, decisions
stay horny my friends,
uncle v.
ps: my freebie just called. she is up in issan visiting her family. she says she wants to see me again when she comes back next week. but i will be long gone. headed to chiang mai friday and then back to the us next week. too bad. she really was a sweetheart and she had one of the nicest bodies i’ve ever had the privilege to lie down with.
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I think I just fucked myself
Reachin Pattaya this weekend. In all the excitement of being back there i called up an old friend in BKK and turn's out she's moved to Pattaya as well.
Met this lovely little girl in Singapore a few yrs back and picked her up for 2 consecutive days also had a ST with her once again in Pattaya few yrs ago on new yrs eve.She's really nice and kind to me and does'nt even talk money.
She's never asked me for money or gifts in all these yrs but she does give me a call everytime she travels to Singapore in anticipation of meeting again.So this time when the Thailand trip happend i gave her a call to check if she was still in town. Dont want to be stuck with her for 5 days but neither would like to be rude to her , Im in a fix. Me and my big mouth , told her im travelling alone so she's probably already making plans to be with me for the entire trip.
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Gambling is illegal
[QUOTE=Frankypanky]i don't think so. Gambling is illegal in Thailand.
If you really want to gamble, then you should visit the border Thailand/Cambodia...[/QUOTE]But of course its about just leave yourself open to either a backhander for the police or a fine. (I paid the backhander 5000bt)
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[QUOTE=Travelforfun]Reachin Pattaya this weekend. In all the excitement of being back there i called up an old friend in BKK and turn's out she's moved to Pattaya as well.
Met this lovely little girl in Singapore a few yrs back and picked her up for 2 consecutive days also had a ST with her once again in Pattaya few yrs ago on new yrs eve.She's really nice and kind to me and does'nt even talk money.
She's never asked me for money or gifts in all these yrs but she does give me a call everytime she travels to Singapore in anticipation of meeting again.So this time when the Thailand trip happend i gave her a call to check if she was still in town. Dont want to be stuck with her for 5 days but neither would like to be rude to her , Im in a fix. Me and my big mouth , told her im travelling alone so she's probably already making plans to be with me for the entire trip.[/QUOTE]
Quite a prdicament. She may not take money. But remember there is such a thing as opportunity costs. I am sure that your time is worth more than the 1500 Bhat LT most FLs will take. I would try to maximize my experience. have you considered telling her the trip is off and just staying in BKK?
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Pattaya Trip
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]Quite a prdicament. She may not take money. But remember there is such a thing as opportunity costs. I am sure that your time is worth more than the 1500 Bhat LT most FLs will take. I would try to maximize my experience. have you considered telling her the trip is off and just staying in BKK?[/QUOTE]
Totally agree....dont wanna stay in BKK for 5 days...and pattaya is way too small and dont want a catfight on the street if we bang into each other.
I guess i'll just have to meet her and take it from there....i doubt she'll take money...she did'nt last time either so will have the play the "my friend will sleep with me card" and try to keep her away atleast from sleeping over.
Thanks anyways mate.
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Alright, so I'm about to bite the bullet, put my money where my mouth is and book the flight. But I got a few final questions before I outlay my money. 1st is, is it a good idea to book the Hotel in advance? I don't think I'll have trouble finding one, a bit of reading on these forums is good enough to find on of a quality I'm looking for, but I just want to make sure I won't be left on the street when I get there. I will be staying for two weeks sometime from late Oct through Nov, depending on available flights.
The other question is money related. Roughly how much would you think I'd need for a two week stay? I'd figure 1k AUS for the flight and I've got up to 3k left but I think that's overkill. 3k is roughly 85k BHT. Judging by Kumbu's post in the BKK thread it seems like more than enough. My only concern is I read somewhere that it's hard to convert Baht back into AUS. Is this true? I'm a bit skeptical about this info. Otherwise I will get one of those ATM cards my travel agent was talking about that lets me draw Baht from the ATM's.
Just got my passport set up, will be looking around a few other travel agents before I settle on a price for the flight. Trying to get one for 800$ but it's a tough call. Apparently it will be busy during this time and many of the flights are booked out already. Any of you know if this is true? If I just take travel agents word then I better book now now now, because otherwise I will need to pay more to get a seat (Well according to her). Sounds a bit like she wants my money, but I'm not so sure.
See you all soon. Strider.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]In a world of P4P, non-pros, or whatever, you have to have game. I always go with the "I like you, but I don't give a fuck" approach. For instance I am seeing the girl who works the desk at the hotel I stayed at before I got my own place. When I was gone from Thailand she was not calling or emailing me. When I returned to Thailand and stayed at the hotel I made it KNOWN as soon as I got there that I was on the way out to find a woman. As sure as shit I returned with one. The word spread fast. When I saw her the next day at the front desk she said, "so you have a girlfriend now." I told her no, but since I was not hearing from her that I found somebody. Now she understands the importance of keeping in contact with me and keeping my attention. (I mean I'm going to do the same shit anyway but I will be more discreet.)[/QUOTE]I would do this too. What I don't get is why we have to be on a "good behavior" (Not cheating w/e) for them when they fuck a diff bloke every time? Is it just me or have I got the wrong picture? That's the kind of impression I'm getting and I think it's because word will spread and the girls will think you are a "bad man". But seriously, is it really like this? Or do you just notice this stuff once you've been here a while?
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[QUOTE=Travelforfun]Totally agree....dont wanna stay in BKK for 5 days...and pattaya is way too small and dont want a catfight on the street if we bang into each other.
I guess i'll just have to meet her and take it from there....i doubt she'll take money...she did'nt last time either so will have the play the "my friend will sleep with me card" and try to keep her away atleast from sleeping over.
Thanks anyways mate.[/QUOTE]Or do like I do with my non-pros who I know will be clingy; call her on the last day.
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Just Thai or some Malaysian/Chinese/Malaysian/Chinese/Philipina in Pattaya?
Some more question about Pattaya - would I be able to easily find some Malaysian/Chinese/Philipinas girls to shag in Pattaya, or just Thai girls? Have nothing against Thai (who would have) but woud love to have some biodiversity.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]
I’m thinking: Is this another freebie? But she burst my bubble by saying that she needs money to go with me. No big deal. I ask her to name a price and she says 1500. Done! We finish our beers, say goodbye to her friend, who has easily found a guy, and we are off.
Once I get her out into the light I realize she’s not quite the Gem I thought I had found. A bit older (25) and the body isn’t as tight as I’d hoped. But she is still very cute and not to be kicked out of my bed. But still its amazing how much the dark lighting, a little beer, and one’s imagination can fool you. I had mistaken a 26 year old milf for a 19 year old schoolgirl. But there was no going back now. And we were clicking pretty well too. And she was still damn cute, though not the kind of girl I typically go for.
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I'm sad to hear that this kind of meat is quoting prices like that now in Pat. Is that what girls are asking for in discos now?
I don't do the discos anymore because most of the meat is well used, and most of the girls are older and speak lots of English. I agree it's also very dark so it's hard to tell what girls look like. The good thing is that most freebies come from the discos, if that's what you're into.
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Some more question about Pattaya - would I be able to easily find some Malaysian/Chinese/Philipinas girls to shag in Pattaya, or just Thai girls? Have nothing against Thai (who would have) but woud love to have some biodiversity.[/QUOTE]
There are chinese and taiwanese who come for vacation in Pattaya, and I sometimes see korean and japanese tourists as well. I don't think Pattaya offers this in p4p form, but there are some spots in bkk that do.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]There are chinese and taiwanese who come for vacation in Pattaya, and I sometimes see korean and japanese tourists as well. I don't think Pattaya offers this in p4p form, but there are some spots in bkk that do.[/QUOTE]Thx Amjeck, I was thinking about girls of p4p scene. Nowhere in Pattaya..?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm sad to hear that this kind of meat is quoting prices like that now in Pat. Is that what girls are asking for in discos now?
I don't do the discos anymore because most of the meat is well used, and most of the girls are older and speak lots of English. I agree it's also very dark so it's hard to tell what girls look like. The good thing is that most freebies come from the discos, if that's what you're into.[/QUOTE]
That's what they ask if you ask them how much they want. If you just tell them what you give her, the 1000 Bath bill still rules!
Anyway, my experience is that most girls in discos never talked money with me (I also don't look like a newbie). I just gave them money in the (very late) morning.
PS I agree about "used meat". One needs very good eyes (and sometimes luck) to spot the fresh ones.
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[QUOTE=Striderani]What I don't get is why we have to be on a "good behavior" (Not cheating w/e) for them when they fuck a diff bloke every time? Is it just me or have I got the wrong picture? [/QUOTE]I have absolutely no idea where this came from. I would suspect that it came from GFE overkill where guys who were getting GFE service felt they were cheating on their hooker if they went with someone else. Then they felt guilty for "cheating" and the girls caught wind of this. In order to protect their cash cow the girls came up with the butterfly label and made guys feel guilty/ashamed to want different women. I don't get it either. If I only wanted one girl then I would get a girlfriend instead of a hooker.
That is why it is best to show them from the beginning that you are a butterfly man. The smart/seasoned ones understand that you are on holiday and want to be with as many women as possible so they won't pester you after you have sessioned with them. The newer ones are mostly still in the rose-tinted glasses phase.
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[QUOTE=Striderani]Alright, so I'm about to bite the bullet, put my money where my mouth is and book the flight. But I got a few final questions before I outlay my money. 1st is, is it a good idea to book the Hotel in advance?[/QUOTE]Up to you. There is no shortage of rooms in Pattaya. Like it has been said before, just book one day at a random place, then when you arrive at ground zero search for a place you would like to be for the rest of your stay.
[QUOTE=Striderani]The other question is money related. Roughly how much would you think I'd need for a two week stay?[/QUOTE]Up to you again. You may be a Beach Road guy and pay 300 baht/pop or you may be a soapie junkie and pay up to 2500 baht/pop. So that depends on what type of mongering you like to do. I wouldn't allocate much for food. It's pretty cheap.
[QUOTE=Striderani]My only concern is I read somewhere that it's hard to convert Baht back into AUS. Is this true? I'm a bit skeptical about this info. Otherwise I will get one of those ATM cards my travel agent was talking about that lets me draw Baht from the ATM's.[/QUOTE]You can bring cash but you don't have to change it all over at once. If you use the ATM you will have to pay a 150 baht each time. As far as the conversion back, USD and Euro are used as base currencies around the world. Many times a converter will convert from currency X to USD or Euro, then from that to currency Y.
[QUOTE=Striderani]Just got my passport set up, will be looking around a few other travel agents before I settle on a price for the flight. Trying to get one for 800$ but it's a tough call. [/QUOTE]Ditch the travel agent. We have internet these days. Book your own ticket.
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[QUOTE=Striderani]What I don't get is why we have to be on a "good behavior" (Not cheating w/e) for them when they fuck a diff bloke every time? Is it just me or have I got the wrong picture? That's the kind of impression I'm getting and I think it's because word will spread and the girls will think you are a "bad man". But seriously, is it really like this? Or do you just notice this stuff once you've been here a while?[/QUOTE]I think this is a complicated issue - not in how to deal with it, but in what the underlying cause of it is. But before I get into that: it isn't just you - it's a pretty accurate picture you paint. Unless you do as Mr. E. is suggesting and set the conditions early. If you are clear with her that you are a player and she cannot consider you proprietary, then you wont run into this. But if you are not clear, then you will definitely run into this at some point.
I think it is complicated for the following reasons. One part of it is as Mr. E suggests - it is a good business practise on the girl's part. If she can make you exclusive to her, then it means your money will drain directly into her purse, and not into any other competitive purses. It's like McDonald's trying to get those golden arches burned into the mind of little 3-year-old Mikey. If all Mikey wants is a Happy Meal, then Burger King is out one extra customer.
Second, there is a complex social fabric in the gogo bars (and I presume amongst FLs on WS and Beach rd too). When they manage to get a guy to be exclusive to them, it makes them look good in the eyes of their competitors. It raises them in the social hierarchy since they were good enough to get one of these rich falang to commit to her. I have been told this point blank by two different gogo girls. This becomes particularly strong if they have a good time with you, and then they go back to their girls and brag about how you spent 3 hours licking her pussy. This then sets up the expectation that you will be back for her, and if that does not happen, the girl looks pretty stupid in front of her friends. So you neutralize this by being clear to her the very first time you go with her. She then knows not to go back to her friends and brag.
Third, in some cases, the girls find you pleasant to be with. That is, 9/10 mongers are brutes - they want to fuck hard and dirty and be gone. If/when a girl finds someone who she can tolerate, and who smells decent, and who doesn't have a third leg between his legs, she tries her mightiest to hang on to that guy. That is, if a girl is going to fuck for money, might as well pick the best guys she can and try to have them be the frequent flier in her pussy, rather than the other 9/10 brutes. Imagine you were being paid for sex, and 9/10 of the women who came to be fucked by you looked like Barbara Walters. And then along comes Charlize Theron. Or maybe not even Charlize Theron, maybe just a Sarah Silverman, you know, someone who isn't really sexy, but who looks decent compared to Barbara Walters. Wouldn't you try to get the latter to commit to you, just so you would not have to fuck Barbara Walters? Sorry guys, the imagery of a naked Wawa Walters may just have killed a thousand erections.
Fourth, some of these girls are in fact on the hunt for a long term relationship. See, for example, Uncle V.'s recent gold strike. Whether this is for emotional reasons, or financial reasons. or whatever, some of these girls want to try to snare someone into something long term. So they are always trying to keep a list of guys who could potentially be that guy. In fact, many girls have several sponsors, each sending them small (or large) bits of money, which adds up to quite a lot. Again, if I were a Thai working girl, this seems like the smartest thing to do, if I had the wherewithall to do it.
Once again, all of this can be easily avoided if you are clear from the get-go. You need not be brutal about it - you don't have to say to the girl "Look, I don't want a long term relationship with you, ok?" You don't have to make her cry, as someone suggested earlier - that may be easy, but is not necessary. You can do all of this in a soft, but clear way. Don't tell her you are single unless you want to try to have a long term relationship with her. Tell her about all your gogo exploits - it will make for fun conversation, and you wont have to hide anything from her. And of course, it makes clear that you are a player not looking to settle down. Take the phone number when offered, but don't sms or call the next day - that is a sure sign way of getting her interested in you. Wait 2-3 days before you sms her, and make the sms warm but very generic like 'I had a good time, I hope to see you again in a few days time.' Don't buy her gifts when you see her the second time. Etc. - you get the picture.
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Nice answer
[QUOTE=Kumbu]I think this is a complicated issue - not in how to deal with it, but in what the underlying cause of it is. But before I get into that: it isn't just you - it's a pretty accurate picture you paint. Unless you do as Mr. E. is suggesting and set the conditions early. If you are clear with her that you are a player and she cannot consider you proprietary, then you wont run into this. But if you are not clear, then you will definitely run into this at some point.
I think it is complicated for the following reasons. One part of it is as Mr. E suggests - it is a good business practise on the girl's part. If she can make you exclusive to her, then it means your money will drain directly into her purse, and not into any other competitive purses. It's like McDonald's trying to get those golden arches burned into the mind of little 3-year-old Mikey. If all Mikey wants is a Happy Meal, then Burger King is out one extra customer.
Second, there is a complex social fabric in the gogo bars (and I presume amongst FLs on WS and Beach rd too). When they manage to get a guy to be exclusive to them, it makes them look good in the eyes of their competitors. It raises them in the social hierarchy since they were good enough to get one of these rich falang to commit to her. I have been told this point blank by two different gogo girls. This becomes particularly strong if they have a good time with you, and then they go back to their girls and brag about how you spent 3 hours licking her pussy. This then sets up the expectation that you will be back for her, and if that does not happen, the girl looks pretty stupid in front of her friends. So you neutralize this by being clear to her the very first time you go with her. She then knows not to go back to her friends and brag.
Third, in some cases, the girls find you pleasant to be with. That is, 9/10 mongers are brutes - they want to fuck hard and dirty and be gone. If/when a girl finds someone who she can tolerate, and who smells decent, and who doesn't have a third leg between his legs, she tries her mightiest to hang on to that guy. That is, if a girl is going to fuck for money, might as well pick the best guys she can and try to have them be the frequent flier in her pussy, rather than the other 9/10 brutes. Imagine you were being paid for sex, and 9/10 of the women who came to be fucked by you looked like Barbara Walters. And then along comes Charlize Theron. Or maybe not even Charlize Theron, maybe just a Sarah Silverman, you know, someone who isn't really sexy, but who looks decent compared to Barbara Walters. Wouldn't you try to get the latter to commit to you, just so you would not have to fuck Barbara Walters? Sorry guys, the imagery of a naked Wawa Walters may just have killed a thousand erections.
Fourth, some of these girls are in fact on the hunt for a long term relationship. See, for example, Uncle V.'s recent gold strike. Whether this is for emotional reasons, or financial reasons. or whatever, some of these girls want to try to snare someone into something long term. So they are always trying to keep a list of guys who could potentially be that guy. In fact, many girls have several sponsors, each sending them small (or large) bits of money, which adds up to quite a lot. Again, if I were a Thai working girl, this seems like the smartest thing to do, if I had the wherewithall to do it.
Once again, all of this can be easily avoided if you are clear from the get-go. You need not be brutal about it - you don't have to say to the girl "Look, I don't want a long term relationship with you, ok?" You don't have to make her cry, as someone suggested earlier - that may be easy, but is not necessary. You can do all of this in a soft, but clear way. Don't tell her you are single unless you want to try to have a long term relationship with her. Tell her about all your gogo exploits - it will make for fun conversation, and you wont have to hide anything from her. And of course, it makes clear that you are a player not looking to settle down. Take the phone number when offered, but don't sms or call the next day - that is a sure sign way of getting her interested in you. Wait 2-3 days before you sms her, and make the sms warm but very generic like 'I had a good time, I hope to see you again in a few days time.' Don't buy her gifts when you see her the second time. Etc. - you get the picture.[/QUOTE]
I think Kumbu has more or less nailed this question. A few minor additional points.
1 I think Kumbus ' fourth point ie looking for a "I'll send you 10,000B a month when I'm back in Germany so you don't have to be a hooker any more" kind of guy is very important.
2 It is typically the 7/10 type girls who are keenest on this game for pretty obvious reasons. The nullipara 10s and 9s will be getting plenty of highly priced short term business and are likely to be more interested in retaining their flexibility and freedom.
3 How i tend to disabuse the exclusiveness is to ask whether she has any hot friends I can fuck too
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Angelwitch?? More like Angelb**ch!!!
On day 3 of 5 in Pattaya before BKK for 3 days, I go to Angelwitch to look for an old favorite who used to be at Classroom but is now one of the regulars at Angelwitch. At 2130 I go in and I'm on the only guy there. I order a water (I rarely drink) and am told that I have to order alcohol first before I can order water. WTF!?!?!?? Needless to say that I left and I won't be back.
It is completely a buyer's market right now. WS has been pretty dead for the past few days. The main hot spots have been Baccara and the Caveren. Heaven's Above is also holding it's own as one of WS's hidden gems with great talent.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]... How i tend to disabuse the exclusiveness is to ask whether she has any hot friends I can fuck too[/QUOTE]
Same here. You can also explain to your girl that you really would like to do something that she refuses to do or that she can not do alone. A threesome is an obvious and very common request, but you may ask for a girl who is willing to do anal (if your "wannabe regular girlfriend" does not) or swallow your cum (or a rim job or water games, etc.). It doesn't matter whether you are into any of those "perversions" or not, it's just a pretext for you to be a butterfly and to try new girls.
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[QUOTE=Big Daddy 1906]On day 3 of 5 in Pattaya before BKK for 3 days, I go to Angelwitch to look for an old favorite who used to be at Classroom but is now one of the regulars at Angelwitch. At 2130 I go in and I'm on the only guy there. I order a water (I rarely drink) and am told that I have to order alcohol first before I can order water. WTF!?!?!?? Needless to say that I left and I won't be back.
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Strange, must be something new because I’ve been to AW on a number of occasions and never ordered alcohol. They do serve soft drinks which I always order with no issues.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Strange, must be something new because I’ve been to AW on a number of occasions and never ordered alcohol. They do serve soft drinks which I always order with no issues.[/QUOTE]
It very well could be a one off. The way that the market is in Pattaya tight now. I could be possible.
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Thx Amjeck, I was thinking about girls of p4p scene. Nowhere in Pattaya..?[/QUOTE]
No, never seen that available. If you find it please send me a pm.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I have absolutely no idea where this came from. I would suspect that it came from GFE overkill where guys who were getting GFE service felt they were cheating on their hooker if they went with someone else. [/QUOTE]
I think SOME Thai bar/gogo girls are under the impression that they are not prostitutes. And they don't understand the way Westerners look down on prostitutes. They actually think they are worthy of a normal relationship.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
That is why it is best to show them from the beginning that you are a butterfly man. The smart/seasoned ones understand that you are on holiday and want to be with as many women as possible so they won't pester you after you have sessioned with them. The newer ones are mostly still in the rose-tinted glasses phase.[/QUOTE]
I advise to treat all of them as hookers. That doesn't mean you have to mean to them, however.
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You got to Have an Ace in the Hole
The next installment:
I spent yesterday afternoon at the floating market. Pretty touristy with the usual brick-a-brack. On thing that was interesting was that it was all Asians. Mostly Thai with a sprinkling of Chinese and Japanese. No freebies or FLs to be had. But nice and cheap food. A lot of good photo opportunities for those who need to build up the alibi on how they were trekking through the wild country and not spending their time with wanton girls. LOL
Anyhow, back o the topic at hand. I got back, showered, and decided to give the bas her in Jomtien a little try again. Actually my target was one girl, Fon, who works at Blarney stone in the Jomtien complex. I mentioned her in the last post. She was there when I arrived but things did not go too well. Her English was no good and she was again preoccupied eating. No love form me even after buying her a lady drink. Part of this may have to do with the fact that her English is very poor. It was also pretty early, around 8PM. But the general attitude in this place leaves a lot to be desired. Everyone is lazing about, eating, buying stuff form the vendors. As does the quality of the girls. Most could really be classified as hags. The clientel were very old grandpa types. (More power to them-- I just hope I will be able to do the same at their age --but not for me. To top it all off there is a gay guy there that serves as the unofficial mascot. While Fon is ignoring me he is givng me googly eyes and blowing kisses form across the room. This is just too much! Finished my beer and booked. Didn’t even wait for Fon to get back from whatever she was doing in the bar. I am absolutely finished with these skanky Jomtien bar scene!
So the plan is to go back to WS and hit Airport. The place is packed and going off I see my girls form my first night (we had made out in the bar, but I didn’t BF them). One of them is doing the soapy thing and grabs me and puts my hand on her ass as I walk by. “Hello baby!”. The other one is also soon with me and sitting on my lap. But, the thing is, I am just not feeling these two tonight. They knocked my socks off on Night 1 but I am getting spoiled. There are, however, a couple of really sexy things on stage. I buy a drink for one. But she too I is preoccupied and busy. I guess she’s a popular girl. I leave her to the guy who is sitting next to me, who knows her form before. Very nice Swedish guy who I get to talking to after a ruckus breaks out next door (someone was having a heart attack and they had to call an ambulance. We both agree that there are worse ways to go. LOL.
With Airport not really doing it for me I bid them farewell and head out to Supergirl. Now I had some good success at Superbaby the other day. But I don’t want to return there as I had already taken a girl form there. So I try the sister establishment. I think the girls were a lot hotter here than airport. And the lighting is better so you can get a good look at them. One in particular grabs my attention. An absolute doll. Great body, natural c cups. Maybe the best looking girl I’ve seen this trip. I buy her a drink and get to talking. The usual price structure. 700 BF. But she refuses to go long time. I guess it’s still early, before 12. Same happened to me in BK at Rainbow. I guess she must be popular too and doesn’t want to miss out on her payday. Can’t say that I blame her. She may have changed her mind towards the end of the evening. But after an afternoon of trudging through the heat I am too tired to sit here and wait her out. I will leave her for another day.
Which brings me to the title of this post, the ace in the hole I had at Superbaby. I walk in and she is with another customer, but ditches him right away to join me. She had made me promise to take her again an she must now think I have a good heart. I try not to break her illusion and we pick up where we left off. She is super cute and bubbly with a tremendous natural rack for such a small thing. We grab a drink at one of the music bas (name now escapes me) and hang a bit laughing and talking. Soon we head back to my condo..
Another great experience with this little bundle of sexyjoy. My only regret is that I didn’t have the energy this time to go for round 2 before the morning and fell asleep after our first coupling. We also talked a bit and she had some interesting things to say about the situation. She said that she and many of the girls prefer Japanese customers because they are not as well endowed and because they finish quickly. But she also says that she enjoys my company and that she is glad I took her again. I am all too happy to buy this hook line and sinker. She says its her birthday tomorrow and she wants me to take her again. But I am not so sure. There are just too many girls to be had here. A nice session in the morning too. We parted like we were BF and GF, and she had plenty of tender kisses for me before leaving late this morning.
Well, with all the lady drinks and BFs last night was a little hard on the wallet. I plan on going back to the FL path tonight. If I run into the MILF I will just have to break the fact that I won’t take her tactfully.
Speaking of tact, the “freebie” girl called again and she is on her way back from Issan and wants to see me. Given our history I don’t think it’s a good idea. But maybe she’ll be my “ace in the hole” one of these last nights in Pattaya?
Stay horny my friends,
Uncle V
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No report ... just a question
I'll head back to Pattaya next month after a couple of years off. Though I heard a lot of good stories about the bars at Soi 6 for an "in-between-session" in the afternoon I plan go there to take a deeper look.
Can someone recommend a bar at Soi 6 where you have a high chance to find naughty girls that provide anal sex as well?
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[QUOTE=Zauberfee]I'll head back to Pattaya next month after a couple of years off. Though I heard a lot of good stories about the bars at Soi 6 for an "in-between-session" in the afternoon I plan go there to take a deeper look.
Can someone recommend a bar at Soi 6 where you have a high chance to find naughty girls that provide anal sex as well?[/QUOTE]
To be honest it can vary from bar to bar, girl to girl you best way in have a crawl around and ask the girls if they do.
I like Siagon girl and sexy in the city.
You will get very good chances in the Pook bar
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Back to hairy thread...
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Im like you, I hate shaved pussies[/QUOTE]Its great to hear I am not alone... Maybe we could meet somewhere in Pattaya on Oct/Nov. this year? And hunt together for some real, hirsuit Thai pussies ;)
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I have a list of 6 crucial question (imbedded in my head) that I ask every girl.[/QUOTE]Would you share pls your experience with me on that subject? I've red tons of reports, got some clue of that, but I am still a newbie, as I never been to LOS before. I had no objections to ask hookers I've been with about their beavers. Sadly, here in EU almost 99% of p4p girls shave their pussies what really makes me sick! So even 25% unshaved will make me happy. But to maximise my chnces, what else you can do before you ask about that fur? I mean what are the signs that might help you guess/predict unshaved Tahi pussy? As mentioned in your earlier post - most of the girls new to the p4p scene are unshaved. Any other observations? Here where I live, I am quite good with my predictions, but feel completely lost imaging Thailand.
It is not personal question to Amjeck only, anybodys answer will be appreciated.
All the best you bloody mongers
Goldenem
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I think SOME Thai bar/gogo girls are under the impression that they are not prostitutes. And they don't understand the way Westerners look down on prostitutes. They actually think they are worthy of a normal relationship.
I advise to treat all of them as hookers. That doesn't mean you have to mean to them, however.[/QUOTE]Why do I rise to the bait?
1 As we all know, there is a spectrum of girls, from those working full-time as hookers to those who are trying to supplant their income with a bit of casual work on the side. I am sure the latter do not consider themselves as prostitutes, and indeed I don't feel the need to put a label on them and treat them as if they have no other attributes.
2 Do we look down on prostitutes? I don't, any more than I look down on masseuses or shop-workers or ticket-collectors or tuc-tuc drivers. I might look down on drug users or thieves, I guess. Perhaps I'm unusual.
3 Well, nobody supposes that it is going to be a normal relationship, unless they are very naive, but they are certainly worthy of normal human social interactions.
4 And how would we know if we are treating them as hookers? Many of us like a gfe and it's pretty difficult to do both at the same time.
5 Amjeck, I'm sure you're a real gent with the ladies, and you just write these things to wind me up, but you can actually be more than 'not mean'... You can have a fun friendly affectionate pleasant relaxed exciting relationship, without ever losing sight of the fact that at the end of the day she wouldn't be there if you didn't have something rather special in your trouser pocket (ie your wallet).
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Same here. You can also explain to your girl that you really would like to do something that she refuses to do or that she can not do alone. A threesome is an obvious and very common request, but you may ask for a girl who is willing to do anal (if your "wannabe regular girlfriend" does not) or swallow your cum (or a rim job or water games, etc.). It doesn't matter whether you are into any of those "perversions" or not, it's just a pretext for you to be a butterfly and to try new girls.[/QUOTE]
He he he, I like this strategy. I have used it with girlfriends back home when I have decided that I wanted to break up with them and thus have nothing to lose really: "It is important to me that my GF does anal, so can't be with you if you don't." Or, "my one fantasy in life is to have a threesome and can't be with you if we can't share this". If she says no, then the relationship is over since she gets deeply offended to be dumped over refusing to do anal (I counterargue that I must not mean that much to her if she can't do this one little thing for me), if she says yes, well, then my interest is rekindled for another few weeks. Had it work for anal, but sadly never for a threesome.
Guess it's worth a go in LOS as well, but when on the ground there time is precious to me, and would feel a bit bad dumping a girl 12 hours after she has given her virgin back door to me to prove her affection so haven't used it there.
My personal strategy with the ones I like to see again, but not have hanging around all the time, is to just tell them that I am meeting another mongerer for the day/a few days and they can't come since he is not nice to girls and don't want him to misbehave towards them. Then when I want to see them I just call them. When asked "tilac, you take different lady when I not here" I "sweet mouth" that I don't have sex that often since I like it to be special. Think they know that I am lying, but allows them to save face to an extent being lied to mildly. Just my two cents on this topic.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1] You can have a fun friendly affectionate pleasant relaxed exciting relationship, without ever losing sight of the fact that at the end of the day she wouldn't be there if you didn't have something rather special in your trouser pocket (ie your wallet).[/QUOTE]
Yah, that's the point i'm trying to get across. My words appear harsh sometimes only to beat the point into the right "head".
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]
Would you share pls your experience with me on that subject? I've red tons of reports, got some clue of that, but I am still a newbie, as I never been to LOS before. I had no objections to ask hookers I've been with about their beavers. [/QUOTE]
There's no rhyme or reason to it. You just got to ask them. I speak thai so it's easy for me to ask in a non-threatening way or to even joke about the odd question. But if it's something that you have to have, then by all means ask, and if need be try and put your hand in their pants (after rapport is made of course).
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They see it as a buisness, and themsevles as entrepreneurs.
Picked up an older gal (33) in the Therma one time, built like a brick sh. Thought it interesting that she called her 14 year old daughter to tell her she got a customer and, as a result, will be home in the morning. She then told me her daughter was thrilled that "momy got a customer tonight." Told me a lot about the mindset.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Why do I rise to the bait?
1 As we all know, there is a spectrum of girls, from those working full-time as hookers to those who are trying to supplant their income with a bit of casual work on the side. I am sure the latter do not consider themselves as prostitutes, and indeed I don't feel the need to put a label on them and treat them as if they have no other attributes.
2 Do we look down on prostitutes? I don't, any more than I look down on masseuses or shop-workers or ticket-collectors or tuc-tuc drivers. I might look down on drug users or thieves, I guess. Perhaps I'm unusual.
3 Well, nobody supposes that it is going to be a normal relationship, unless they are very naive, but they are certainly worthy of normal human social interactions.
4 And how would we know if we are treating them as hookers? Many of us like a gfe and it's pretty difficult to do both at the same time.
5 Amjeck, I'm sure you're a real gent with the ladies, and you just write these things to wind me up, but you can actually be more than 'not mean'... You can have a fun friendly affectionate pleasant relaxed exciting relationship, without ever losing sight of the fact that at the end of the day she wouldn't be there if you didn't have something rather special in your trouser pocket (ie your wallet).[/QUOTE]
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but.. but mouse... you mean that all the poo-ying want is NGERN??
Well now, all you've done is made me cry... :( :)
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[QUOTE=Zauberfee]I'll head back to Pattaya next month after a couple of years off. Though I heard a lot of good stories about the bars at Soi 6 for an "in-between-session" in the afternoon I plan go there to take a deeper look.
Can someone recommend a bar at Soi 6 where you have a high chance to find naughty girls that provide anal sex as well?[/QUOTE]
Quite a few of the girls do. Not uncommon to hear "fuck my ass" as you stroll down the Soi from the girls.
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[QUOTE=Sainter21]Not uncommon to hear "fuck my ass" as you stroll down the Soi from the girls.[/QUOTE]
Shame these girls are so shy and demure. I would much prefer if they wouldn't sugar coat it.
;)
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[QUOTE=Henryv]They see it as a buisness, and themsevles as entrepreneurs.
Picked up an older gal (33) in the Therma one time, built like a brick sh. Thought it interesting that she called her 14 year old daughter to tell her she got a customer and, as a result, will be home in the morning. She then told me her daughter was thrilled that "momy got a customer tonight." Told me a lot about the mindset.[/QUOTE]
Yes it tells you a to about the mindset: that they are unencumbered by the puritanical BS we tote around with us.
And its hypocritical as all hell to go with these girls and then talk about them as being sluts or look down at them in any way.
God bless them. I have much more respect for them than for girls in the West who get dolled up and then go to clubs just to see who can shoot down more guys.
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[QUOTE=Sainter21]Quite a few of the girls do. Not uncommon to hear "fuck my ass" as you stroll down the Soi from the girls.[/QUOTE]You sure that was a girl calling your way?
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And its hypocritical as all hell to go with these girls and then talk about them as being sluts or look down at them in any way.[/QUOTE]No it's not! They suck and fuck for a living. They fuck any guy that has money.They fuck thai guys for free bareback and foster the transmission of stds. They talk shit behind your back first chance they get and would rob you or cheat you if they get the opportunity.
You hold these girls high on a pedestal? The truth is ugly and only gets uglier the longer you play in the gutter.
Have a look at some of the faces of the girls who've been working longer than 4 months or so. Their soul has disappeared, they hate their lives, themselves and guess what? They hate you too.
I'll give you a break because I think you just got your nut off and are writing in post coital bliss.
If you're mongering just for the sex, you'll win every time. If you're after something more, it's best to find a new game.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]No it's not! They suck and fuck for a living...The truth is ugly and only gets uglier the longer you play in the gutter.[/QUOTE]
They suck and fuck for a living ...
You suck and fuck for a hobby ...
So, what's the difference?
Do you regard yourself as a resident of the gutter?
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]They suck and fuck for a living ...
You suck and fuck for a hobby ...
So, what's the difference?
Do you regard yourself as a resident of the gutter?[/QUOTE]
They fuck ANYBODY for money. I don't (thank God).
I'm a visitor of the gutter, but I don't glorify it!
The gutter is a fun place to play. Remember when you were a kid and you played in the gutter. You had fun. It was dirty, exciting, risky, and adventurous. Same thing it Pattaya, but lets not forget that it is a gutter.
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Amjec, speak only for yourself.
[QUOTE=Amjec]Have a look at some of the faces of the girls who've been working longer than 4 months or so. Their soul has disappeared, they hate their lives, themselves and guess what? They hate you too.
If you're mongering just for the sex, you'll win every time. If you're after something more, it's best to find a new game.[/QUOTE]I don't know who you are but I think you are talking about your self.
You look down on the girls you give money to and on yourself for fucking them. They might hate you but they certainly don't hate themself.
Who do you think you are?
You might be religously challenged.
Get out of Pattaya. Go home.
You are sick. Get help. Really.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]No it's not! They suck and fuck for a living. They fuck any guy that has money.They fuck thai guys for free bareback and foster the transmission of stds. They talk shit behind your back first chance they get and would rob you or cheat you if they get the opportunity...[/QUOTE]
What you wrote might be true for certain local P4P girls, but fortunately, it's not true for all of them. I know at least a few working girls that are relatively honest (actually, according to my own experience, most of them are, but maybe am I lucky and select only the "good" ones?). I mean, those girls wouldn't rob you nor steal you anything, at least directly. They might try to get money from you for dubious pretexts and by telling you more or less blatant lies, but it's not exactly a robbery then.
Many working girls are fervent Buddhists and they respect at least certain moral principles. Sure, a punter should not believe everything that a working girl says. Yes, almost 100% of the local hookers will cheat on you if you can not live with them on a daily basis, and especially while you are away in another country, even if you sponsor them (sponsoring a P4P girl does not guarantee anything and certainly not her faithfulness).
But if you are reasonably (and you don't need to be overly) careful and not too dumb, and if you act decently yourself, you may discover several pleasant, charming and trustworthy women, even among the local prostitutes. You should not look these girls through pink glasses, but it's not necessary to always use dark glasses either.
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Well said!
[QUOTE=Goyave]What you wrote might be true for certain local P4P girls, but fortunately, it's not true for all of them. I know at least a few working girls that are relatively honest (actually, according to my own experience, most of them are, but maybe am I lucky and select only the "good" ones?). I mean, those girls wouldn't rob you nor steal you anything, at least directly. They might try to get money from you for dubious pretexts and by telling you more or less blatant lies, but it's not exactly a robbery then.
Many working girls are fervent Buddhists and they respect at least certain moral principles. Sure, a punter should not believe everything that a working girl says. Yes, almost 100% of the local hookers will cheat on you if you can not live with them on a daily basis, and especially while you are away in another country, even if you sponsor them (sponsoring a P4P girl does not guarantee anything and certainly not her faithfulness).
But if you are reasonably (and you don't need to be overly) careful and not too dumb, and if you act decently yourself, you may discover several pleasant, charming and trustworthy women, even among the local prostitutes. You should not look these girls through pink glasses, but it's not necessary to always use dark glasses either.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100%! I have found some "good ones" as well. I would also add that I have found if you treat the girls decently and with some respect, and I don't mean throwing money at them, it can pay dividends back at the room.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]What you wrote might be true for certain local P4P girls, but fortunately, it's not true for all of them. [/QUOTE]
We're talking on the Pattaya forum, so views are about Pattaya girls mostly.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]but.. but mouse... you mean that all the poo-ying want is NGERN??[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. :( Maybe a typo? Maybe a secret language? Maybe an acronym? Maybe just bollocks? :)
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[QUOTE=Booey]I agree with you 100%! I have found some "good ones" as well. I would also add that I have found if you treat the girls decently and with some respect, and I don't mean throwing money at them, it can pay dividends back at the room.[/QUOTE]
I'm not advocating treating the girls like crap, but to put them on a pedestal is ridiculous. Better to keep your guard up and remain a little skeptical.
It is a business relationship. You can have fun when you conduct business too.
Respect is earned. If she earns it, she gets it. If not, then she doesn't. But she is the one who has to concede first, because I am the one with the money. No special treatment until she earns it. No favors until she earns it. Rewards for good service/behavior etc.
At the end of the day, if she sold her body for money that makes her a sex worker. She gets labeled as a hooker and is treated as such (business relationship)
On the flip side: When the girls give it up for free (p4p or non p4p girl), the relationship is totally different.
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[QUOTE=D Cups]Amjeck, shame on you. These girls are human beings with feelings and famililes. Not all of them are as you say. Many girls hook to take care of their family. What's wrong with you? Please don't be so jaded and hypocritical. Kindness begets kindness.[/QUOTE]
My thai girlfriend's family is in need of a loan. Can you assist please?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]We're talking on the Pattaya forum, so views are about Pattaya girls mostly.[/QUOTE]
While I am nowadays more often in Northeastern Thailand, I've been frequently in Pattaya (and also in other parts of the Land of Smiles) since 1999. IMHO, my remarks are valid there too.
I must add that I've always favored "encounters" with freelancers and maybe those girls are probably less often of the "mercenary" type than go-go and bar girls?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]
If you're mongering just for the sex, you'll win every time. If you're after something more, it's best to find a new game.[/QUOTE]
Anyone here looking for a wife or GF has serious issues.
You have to appreciate this place for what it is.
Hihg on a pedestal? Not really. Just treating them as human beings who are providing a good service and deserve consideration.
I also avoid the ones that look too skanky anyway.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. :( Maybe a typo? Maybe a secret language? Maybe an acronym? Maybe just bollocks? :)[/QUOTE]
"ngern" (Dinghy's transliteration) = เงิน = money
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Repeat this mantra everyday:
Thai girls are only good for fucking! Take em to your room , fuck em, then kick em out. Repeat cycle![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Amjeck]My words appear harsh sometimes.[/QUOTE]A huge talent for understatement... :)
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[QUOTE=Goyave]"ngern" (Dinghy's transliteration) = เงิน = money[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'll stick to English though.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]A huge talent for understatement... :)[/QUOTE]
It's all shop talk!
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]It's all shop talk![/QUOTE]Ha ha! You shop at different places to me then!
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Ha ha! You shop at different places to me then![/QUOTE]
No, I saw you on soi 6 the other day! He he.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm not advocating treating the girls like crap, but to put them on a pedestal is ridiculous. Better to keep your guard up and remain a little skeptical.
It is a business relationship. You can have fun when you conduct business too.
Respect is earned. If she earns it, she gets it. If not, then she doesn't. But she is the one who has to concede first, because I am the one with the money. No special treatment until she earns it. No favors until she earns it. Rewards for good service/behavior etc.
At the end of the day, if she sold her body for money that makes her a sex worker. She gets labeled as a hooker and is treated as such (business relationship)
On the flip side: When the girls give it up for free (p4p or non p4p girl), the relationship is totally different.[/QUOTE]
I am quite skeptical and I do not put them on a pedestal by any means. Regarding respect, I am talking about the basic respect that you afford to a person you have just met. I agree that greater respect must be earned (or lost), and while some guys put the girl on a pedestal, there are others who treat them like crap. To be clear Amjeck, I am in no way accusing you personally of treating the girls like crap.
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Your a poet, and you don't know it, your feet are longfello.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]No it's not! They suck and fuck for a living. They fuck any guy that has money.They fuck thai guys for free bareback and foster the transmission of stds. They talk shit behind your back first chance they get and would rob you or cheat you if they get the opportunity.
You hold these girls high on a pedestal? The truth is ugly and only gets uglier the longer you play in the gutter.
Have a look at some of the faces of the girls who've been working longer than 4 months or so. Their soul has disappeared, they hate their lives, themselves and guess what? They hate you too.
I'll give you a break because I think you just got your nut off and are writing in post coital bliss.
If you're mongering just for the sex, you'll win every time. If you're after something more, it's best to find a new game.[/QUOTE]
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Devil's Den afternoon
Spent the afternoon in DD and thought I'd report as there isn't too much info here.
I took jar and Boo. My experience was mixed:
On the negative side: he girls looked nowhere near as good as in their pics. Jar has some very saggy banana tiitties and Boo is tatted up with some big bruises on her but. A bit skanky, but I guess they will have to do. There is something about Jar that is still very cute in a schoolgirl kind of way.
Also their act can be a bit contrived at times. It can feel like they are going through th emotions. A lot of spitting, cleaning and wiping in between change of positions, kissing, BJ. It can throw you off. But considering what they are doing for a living it is probably a good idea for everyone involved. They also spend way too much time in the shower between shots dilly dallying.
Rooms are tiny and dingy. Showers also suck. May be worth it to do the outcall service instead of taking their room. But the mirrors they have are good for the visuals, though. and this is all about creating a Porno Experience.
On the positive side they are real pros (especially Jar) and up for anything. this is some real PSE stuff! I have never had a more freaky session anywhere. I mean, this is some wild stuff. Highlight of the afternoon was me and Boo DPing Jar. Boo using a strap on and pumping as hard as I did. Shoolgirl Jar took it like a champ moaning the whole time. Hot stuff! The girls did work hard to make me cum twice, and were straight up willing with the CIM. Jar's BJ skills are also fantastic. I couldn't walk away without tipping them 160 each.
All in all I am definitely glad I went. G\It was a great experience. I will take the image from the overhead mirror of us DPing Jar to the grave. But I am not sure I would repeat. This may have been something I should have done at the beginning of the trip, before I got spoiled with the quality of the girls and by the GFE I have been getting from these girls -- though nothing nearly as wild as this afternoon's romp.
Also it may be a good idea to forgo sex the night before. I had two goes this morning with the lady from the night before and was maybe not at the height of horniness. We did manage to stay busy the whole time I was at DD. But I just wasn't as into it as I probably would have been if I saved a bit more energy.
I'm recovering now and trying to work up the strength to hit the Discos and try and find another "freebie" or freelancer.
Stay horny my friends,
Uncle V
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]I took jar and Boo. My experience was mixed[/QUOTE]Had some fun with Boo several months ago too... in my (of course humble)) opinion, she looks better than on the pics on the DD site... the 2nd was a girl that for some reason i can't find on the website, but god she was wild! all in all a damn fu**ing enjoyable session, they know what they are doing! just a hardcore porn style BBJ from two hot girls is something memorable!
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]I couldn't walk away without tipping them 160 each.[/QUOTE]LOL how did you come up with that weird figure? Don't say they have 100 and 20 baht banknotes in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Alxxx]Had some fun with Boo several months ago too... in my (of course humble)) opinion, she looks better than on the pics on the DD site... the 2nd was a girl that for some reason i can't find on the website, but god she was wild! all in all a damn fu**ing enjoyable session, they know what they are doing! just a hardcore porn style BBJ from two hot girls is something memorable!
LOL how did you come up with that weird figure? Don't say they have 100 and 20 baht banknotes in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
I gave them 4Gs and told them to keep change as tip to girls.
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My idea of a great report, i.e., the names, the place, description of their bodies, services provided, etc.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]Spent the afternoon in DD and thought I'd report as there isn't too much info here.
I took jar and Boo. My experience was mixed:
On the negative side: he girls looked nowhere near as good as in their pics. Jar has some very saggy banana tiitties and Boo is tatted up with some big bruises on her but. A bit skanky, but I guess they will have to do. There is something about Jar that is still very cute in a schoolgirl kind of way.
Also their act can be a bit contrived at times. It can feel like they are going through th emotions. A lot of spitting, cleaning and wiping in between change of positions, kissing, BJ. It can throw you off. But considering what they are doing for a living it is probably a good idea for everyone involved. They also spend way too much time in the shower between shots dilly dallying.
Rooms are tiny and dingy. Showers also suck. May be worth it to do the outcall service instead of taking their room. But the mirrors they have are good for the visuals, though. and this is all about creating a Porno Experience.
On the positive side they are real pros (especially Jar) and up for anything. this is some real PSE stuff! I have never had a more freaky session anywhere. I mean, this is some wild stuff. Highlight of the afternoon was me and Boo DPing Jar. Boo using a strap on and pumping as hard as I did. Shoolgirl Jar took it like a champ moaning the whole time. Hot stuff! The girls did work hard to make me cum twice, and were straight up willing with the CIM. Jar's BJ skills are also fantastic. I couldn't walk away without tipping them 160 each.
All in all I am definitely glad I went. G\It was a great experience. I will take the image from the overhead mirror of us DPing Jar to the grave. But I am not sure I would repeat. This may have been something I should have done at the beginning of the trip, before I got spoiled with the quality of the girls and by the GFE I have been getting from these girls -- though nothing nearly as wild as this afternoon's romp.
Also it may be a good idea to forgo sex the night before. I had two goes this morning with the lady from the night before and was maybe not at the height of horniness. We did manage to stay busy the whole time I was at DD. But I just wasn't as into it as I probably would have been if I saved a bit more energy.
I'm recovering now and trying to work up the strength to hit the Discos and try and find another "freebie" or freelancer.
Stay horny my friends,
Uncle V[/QUOTE]
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[Quote=Amjeck]They actually think they are worthy of a normal relationship...I advise to treat all of them as hookers...The truth is ugly and only gets uglier the longer you play in the gutter...Their soul has disappeared, they hate their lives, themselves and guess what? They hate you too.[/QUOTE]I think this says more about Amjeck than it does about working girls in Thailand. Let's refer to this as [b][u]The Amjeck Doctrine.[/u][/b]
[QUOTE=Mouse 1]Why do I rise to the bait?[/QUOTE] Because you see the intellectual laziness in this.
As I groaned under the weight of the bar, doing my extra set of squats in the gym last night, I realized I was wrong. When I first read Amjeck's statements, and Mouse's response, and all that followed, I had thought Amjeck was a hypocrite. On the one hand, he makes grand claims about getting your head out of your ass and seeing the girls for what they are (The Amjeck Doctrine, quotes above). But at the same time, the statements he makes are clearly not in fact true. That is, this Amjeck Doctrine is so obviously provocative and incendiary that he can't possibly believe it. And any cursory analysis of the situation by even a half-wit would reveal that the view espoused by Amjeck is fantasy. (To be clear: I am not calling Amjeck a half-wit, please read on). Hence my initial conclusion that he is a hypocrite: he claims to be the purveyor of truth, whereas he in fact is the ultimate consumer of fantasy. The only difference is that his fantasy is a sick, cruel version that few of us would agree with.
But then I realized I am giving Amjeck (and his ilk) too much credit. The Amjeck Doctrine is a simple one: the girls are all prostitutes, and therefore should be considered as lesser human beings - as some category he calls 'hookers'. Accepting such a view is easy: it's like sitting on the couch eating potato chips. It is far easier to think of them all as prostitutes, not worthy of any emotion, not worthy of a second thought, noth worthy of distinction. It is *easier* to do this than to see who they really are. But this is sheer self-delusion. And it is delusion of a particular kind, one that is very common amongst us humans. Consider two American statesmen:
Joseph McCarthy: "Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between communistic atheism and Christianity."
George Bush: "See, we love, we love freedom. That's what they didn't understand. They hate things; we love things. They act out of hatred; we don't seek revenge, we seek justice out of love."
A simplified view of the world: us versus them. We are good; they are putrid prostitutes (or evil-doers, or communists, or what have you). It's easy for the average person to understand since it does not require that you exert any effort in talking with them, or treating them fairly, or trying to see the world from their perspective. And it makes treating them badly a morally acceptable thing to do. We can bomb innocent Muslims, but that's ok since they are all cave-dwelling evil-doers. And we can treat the girls poorly, but that's ok because they're all nothing more than lowly prostitutes. Mmm, those potato chips are good...
This all harkens back to a discussion started by Angus Magee a few weeks ago: fantasy versus reality. My fantasty when I am with a working girl (in Thailand or elsewhere) is that I am connecting with her, that we are going to share something special. I know this is fanstasy, but damn it, that's what I want. Mouse refers to this as the GFE, and he is right in pointing out that such an experience is diametrically opposed to the view that these girls are subhuman. But that's the thing: the Amjeck Doctrine is equally a fantasy, and it is the opposite one from mine.
Why would Amjeck engage in such fantasy? I mean, it is entirely his prerogative, but it has puzzled me for the last few months. In thinking about this, I recognized a recurring theme in his posts: Us versus Them. It is WAR! 'You win everytime'. Win what? War with whom? Why is this a battle? Not sure where I am going here, but I find it interesting.
So...if you are such a person, and if you want to insert your penis into as many orifices as you can with the minimal monetary expenditure possible and no lasting attachment to the girls who possess said orifices, and then at the end you can say that you WON...then I would recommend fully embracing the Amjeck Doctrine. You should keep this attitude if you want to treat the girls poorly and with impunity. That's the only way your conscience will allow it.There is nothing wrong with it once you recognize it as the fantasy that it is. His fantasy is no worse than mine - you just need to know who you are and which fantasy suits you best. As just about every Thai lady has ever said to me at some point or the other: Up to you.
But if his view is fantasy, and my view is fantasy, then what is reality? Angus Magee has some interesting thoughts on this, and I can't come close to his wisdom, but I'd like to make just one point. I would say that the reality is that nothing in the natural world is as simple as that. If you honestly want to *understand* the situation (and you may not in fact want this), such black-white dichotomies need to go. And that requires you getting your fat ass off the couch and hitting the gym (in the metaphorical sense). Not all of us can or even want to do this, and so there will always be lazy couch potatoes, no matter what any of us say or do.
Finally, although this post is written as if it is all about Amjeck, it isn't really. It's pretty clear that there is a spectrum of mongers. Amjeck happens to represent one end of that spectrum, and he is courageous for putting his ideas out there. I don't think there is anything wrong with that end of the spectrum, provided you don't end up hurting the working girls in any way that is not part of the norm. I don't think I will ever visit that end of the spectrum, but I am sure there are some of you who will.
This was pretty self righteous, I know - bring on the flames. Mouse, you see, you're not the only one who can be baited.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]I think this says more about Amjeck than it does about working girls in Thailand. Let's refer to this as [b][u]The Amjeck Doctrine.[/u][/b].......
This was pretty self righteous, I know - bring on the flames. Mouse, you see, you're not the only one who can be baited.[/QUOTE]
clap clap (and that's not with irony)
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]...But if his view is fantasy, and my view is fantasy, then what is reality?...[/QUOTE]
Geez, Kumbu ... you think too much ... it makes me dizzy.
The reality is that Amjeck was probably taught as a small child that sex is dirty and evil, therefore, in his mind, anyone who would provide sex to strangers for a living -- you know, for money -- must also be dirty, evil, and unworthy of the basic respect due to other human beings.
Fantasy has nothing to do with it. It's about ATTITUDE!
A few days ago I was lying flat on my back while 2 young ladies were probing my mouth with their fingers and touching my face all over for at least half an hour. They did it purely for the MONEY.
It was a female dentist and her assistant. They were cleaning my teeth. Of course, since they were not providing me with sex, I'm sure that Amjeck would probably not look down his nose at them, (one never knows, however; he might be disgusted with ALL women), but aside from the sex, I can't discern any difference between those ladies and the ones I invite to my room to take care of Daddy.
I feel sorry for my friend, Amjeck. I can't imagine how he can take much pleasure in the ladies with that kind of attitude.
Our hobby is about a whole hell of a lot more than just "playing in the gutter."
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Thinking men
[QUOTE=Kumbu]I think this says more about Amjeck than it does about working girls in Thailand. Let's refer to this as [b][u]The Amjeck Doctrine.[/u][/b]
...Because you see the intellectual laziness in this.[/QUOTE]Kumbu, thank you...
Once again you bring reasoning and entertainment value to this forum.
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[QUOTE=Henryv]My idea of a great report, i.e., the names, the place, description of their bodies, services provided, etc.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Your WEEEEEELLLLLCOOOOOME!
LOL
sorry couldn't resist.
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Final thoughts on the disco scene
So I was able to summon up some energy to hit up the Discos latenight after an afternoon at DD.
Hit Marine at 1Am and it was totally dead. Followed up with Lucifer. Spotted a very hot chick and she returned my glances wth a smile. We danced for a bti and I bought her some drinks. But this was going nowhere. We grinded a little and she grabbed my dick at one point. But the problem was that it was so damn hot I was sweatng liek in a sauna. (I wish those bitches woudl get sme AC!!!) I think this made her lose interest. I think she was trying to tell me this but it was so damn loud that I couldn't hear a word she said. I finally bid her a polite farewell. It was alread past 2Am and this was going nowher anyway.
Went to marine. Now packed. But I was a bit too drunk to deal with this place and its full potential. Met a very cute girl at the bar. Started grinding on her but she was non committal to my proposal that we go to my place. got some looks and hellos form some othe rgirls. Bt I really didn't ahve the energy to explore all possibilities here. I guess I wasted what little I had in the tank left on Girl #1 at Lucipher.
Finally said fuck it and decided to make a try Walking Street. The place was emptying out and the guys said I only had 1/2 hr left. Spotted a nice slim girl at the bar alons. Made my approach ans we started to chat and dance a bit. Slim, with nice long dark hair. not the hottest chick, but good enogh at this late hour. Turned on the charm (or was she just very drunk)?? A few hugs and stolen kisses and we were off to my place.
At this point I was pretty wiped out. I really just wanted somone in my bed to cuddle and to have loving in the morning. But she was not having it. She sucked me to a good erection and then rode me until we came together. She did not let me stop and would not take no for an answer. She had to get up at 9 to go to work, so we had another early round and she came again. I could tell she was really into it as the pussy was very wet. I gave her 1000BHT as a present, but I am sure she would have been happy with just cabfare.
Final thoughts: the disco scene is alive and well. But it really takes a lot of effort. The clubs are loud, sometimes hot an go very late. Unless this is what you like to do in life then I'm not sure its worth it. There is a school of thought that it is easier to find a GFE, but I am able to find it with most of the girls anyway. just make sure to treat them nice and develop a rapport before hand. After traveling thousands of miles my time is too precious to fuss about with this. Leave it to the younger guys who still have not figured this out and who are happy chasing windmills. I'd rather be home at 2AM getting busy. I'm on vacation for Fuck's sake!
A nice compromise though, is Walking Street. Like a disco in many ways. But good AC and less expensive (beers 85BHT). The girls also are down to go home earlier. Most times they won't even mention money.
Tonight's my last night here and I will spend it with my favorite Bargirl. Will pay the BF and everything. In this game you always end up paying anyway. I'd rather give my money to the girl directly then pay for overpriced drinks at these places.
Stay horny my friends,
Uncle V
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Hey Uncle V,
just wanted to say that I'm enjoying your reports mightily. They are lucid, interesting and have a refreshing honesty about them. Many thanks, you handsummm mannnn.
I must agree with your assessment of the disco scene. It takes a lot of effort and may not be for everyone, nor for every night. But it might be worth it once in a while. The hunt to be had in the disco is somewhat different from other hunts. The final outcome is often less than stellar (although you seem to have done well), but the hunt itself is often pretty fun.
And finally:
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya] I really just wanted somone in my bed to cuddle and to have loving in the morning...Stay horny my friends[/QUOTE]Sounds like maybe you need to take a dose of your own advice :) It's great to see a fellow monger suffering from fuck fatigue. I thought it was just me.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
jt's great to see a fellow monger suffering from fuck fatigue. I thought it was just me.[/QUOTE]
Yes indeed!
Time perspective is everything. I am just here on so short a time and trying to squeeze all these experiences in. If I lived here I probably would make the discos part of my regular routine, maybe once or twice a month.
I mean, WTF?? Going out to pick up at the discos after a debauched afternoon at DD (not to mention two morning romps with the girl form the night before).
I must be losing my damn mind!!! LOL. I thought you were supposed to get wiser with age.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]
Our hobby is about a whole hell of a lot more than just "playing in the gutter."[/QUOTE]
I agree. But it's not exactly rocket science either. LOL
Mr. Ambjack needs to lighten up a bit. I think he would enjoy his experiences with the ladies a lot more.
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Uncle V,
" Hit Marine at 1am, left going nowhere " " Went to marine now it was packed " ??????
I have much to say about Amjeck comments but I'm not going to write a book on it trying to defend or speak for him. Let me just say that there are many many that think like him and I have heard them before on this board. I give him Kudos for expressing his opinion I just don't consider it a Doctrine no more than it is a Doctrice for those who disagree with him.
Lets not allow the tone of his opinions to sway us from the message and that message is just a generalization as to what p4p is about here in Thailand from Amjeck. It's like a bunch of guys sitting around talking shit about women in general that they wear the pants and they are the boss, she better do this or that... but when the women approaches or they get home all is quiet on the Western front. We purr like a kitten...
Up to now it has all been a opinion but I haven't read anything from him that suggest that he is violent towards them but I do read that he like many including me want to get the best bang with his buck no matter how we feel about them?
Last, what is wrong with being in the gutter? after a while like most things you get use to it and the smell. Don't we all come out of the airport take a deep breath and think and say! it's nice to be back?
LBM
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Pattaya disco essentials
Places
Walking street: a good place to start but gets empty around 2 am, and is "Lungs Friendly". Dance music
Lucifer: also a good place to start but lasts longer, not "Lungs Friendly", Hip Hop music
Candyshop: more a disco pub, have good band playing (the one with black guys), often not enough crowded, "Lungs Friendly" because it's open, hip hop
Marine: has an uncertain status, tends to get crowded only late in recent time
Insomnia: The place to go late, after 2/3 am, Dance/Techno music
Hollywood: mainly regular thai customers, not the best for mongering
To avoid:
Tonys: kitch, shit music, expensive
MiXX: good music (two rooms with different music), nice display, only if you want to dance with mainly males from middle-east and russian couples
Girls
Most girls don't ask money before going to your place if they feel you are experienced and know the "rules of the game" (or they may not want to look like prostitutes). IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T EXPECT YOU TO GIVE THEM MONEY! The 1000 bath bill rules for LT there
Girls are often no so pretty (or have been pretty some years ago), but more fun, more friendly, often really enjoy fucking, and don't bother you with "I'm tired, I want to go to your place now"
When it's late (i.e. in Insomnia) there are all kind of girls, including girls who have finished working in beer bars and sometimes Gogos
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[QUOTE=El Frances]Places
Walking street: a good place to start but gets empty around 2 am, and is "Lungs Friendly". Dance music
Lucifer: also a good place to start but lasts longer, not "Lungs Friendly", Hip Hop music
Candyshop: more a disco pub, have good band playing (the one with black guys), often not enough crowded, "Lungs Friendly" because it's open, hip hop
Marine: has an uncertain status, tends to get crowded only late in recent time
Insomnia: The place to go late, after 2/3 am, Dance/Techno music
Hollywood: mainly regular thai customers, not the best for mongering
To avoid:
Tonys: kitch, shit music, expensive
MiXX: good music (two rooms with different music), nice display, only if you want to dance with mainly males from middle-east and russian couples
When it's late (i.e. in Insomnia) there are all kind of girls, including girls who have finished working in beer bars and sometimes Gogos[/QUOTE]
Thank you so much for this comprehensive listing. Unfortunately I am gone tommorrow. i wish I had this info sooner as I would have really liked ot have checked out the scene at Insomnia, if only just to see it.
Final thoughts (I promise) on disco scene. It is supposed to be a better value and to promise a truer GFE. Btu take my experience tonight, A repeat with a BG I really connected with. We had a lovely dinner at MK hot pot restaurants. She served me with that feminine deference you only get in Asia. The whole time I am proud as a peacock as the hottest girl in the entire Village Center mall is with me and attending my needs. All for 750 BHT for dinner and a 600 BHT barfine. I blew nearly 3 times that on last night's misadventures on the disco scene.
I think in the end it is best to test both scenes. There are no steady rules of thumb. No step a,b,c in an instruction manual. Like in all great sports one has to at times leave things to fate and let nature take its course.
Stay horny my friends,
Uncle V.
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I am the biggest who*e I know
While I do not really want to fan any flames I was mulling over this discussion while at work tonight. Now I have not been following it too closely but what did occur to me was that if who*ing oneself means doing what is distasteful, only for the money, then I am probably one of the biggest who*es I know right now. I metaphorically bend over every night at work as the man who pays my salary gives it t me up the ass. And as it happens I think-for the money.
Now I do not begin to believe that every working girl has this attitude but I have to ask, when someone denigrates wgs in general-what are [b] you[/b] doing just for the money?
I have my own reasons for doing this right now. But seeing it in this perspective is certainly humbling and builds my respect for wgs even though many I meet also do seem to enjoy the work.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]But if his view is fantasy, and my view is fantasy, then what is reality? Angus Magee has some interesting thoughts on this, and I can't come close to his wisdom, but I'd like to make just one point. I would say that the reality is that nothing in the natural world is as simple as that. If you honestly want to *understand* the situation (and you may not in fact want this), such black-white dichotomies need to go. And that requires you getting your fat ass off the couch and hitting the gym (in the metaphorical sense). Not all of us can or even want to do this, and so there will always be lazy couch potatoes, no matter what any of us say or do.[/QUOTE]
Well in fact Kumbu, far from being wise, I am just a guy who has always had rather a tenuous grasp of consensus reality. That is I have often been just this side of crazy, and probably ventured over the boundary once or twice in my days. I have always been interested in different states of consciousness, from meditative consciousness to full blow psychedelia-and every thing in between. I still do not know what "it" is. But I do know that experience is very much a matter of perception. When a pick pocket sees a Saint, all he sees are the pockets. So the guy who shows up in BKK with thieving who*es in mind, will run into thieving who*res. It really is that simple. Now a guy like you might also run into a thieving who*e, but you will experience the girl differently and will probably take something very different away from the encounter.
That's all.
AM
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]Final thoughts: the disco scene is alive and well. But it really takes a lot of effort. The clubs are loud, sometimes hot an go very late. Unless this is what you like to do in life then I'm not sure its worth it. There is a school of thought that it is easier to find a GFE, but I am able to find it with most of the girls anyway. just make sure to treat them nice and develop a rapport before hand. After traveling thousands of miles my time is too precious to fuss about with this. Leave it to the younger guys who still have not figured this out and who are happy chasing windmills. I'd rather be home at 2AM getting busy. I'm on vacation for Fuck's sake![/QUOTE]I like the disco scene. I'm with you though. No need to stay there all night. I like to get there early, find something nice, and get the hell out of there. Especially being a Cheap Charlie. I would rather leave with her about 1230 and have a nice long night for my 1000 baht than stay in a disco until 4am buying all kinds of drinks and still have to pay the same 1000 baht for a short night that I am too tired to enjoy.
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I said it before and I'll say it AGAIN (for those who either ignore the obvious or refuse to SEE IT) - the girls in the trade are there for ONE THING - the money. No matter what reason family support being the usual one (like the Thai "joke" about the man plows fields but the only field the girl plows is the one between her legs).
Some ladies actually LIKE the JOB portion and that is the essence of WHY they change from openly exposing jim-cooter (jim is Thai for cooter by the way) and all that goes with it to shy and reserved when "alone" - one-on-one is more personal than the dancing/exhibition JOB and they have to surrender a certain portion of "affection" to attain "payment" (otherwise they get a "starfish rating" and noted by name/location/badge number HERE).
Now admittedly I PREFER a bit of attention to a clock-watching "hurry up...you finish now?" and that attention seems to be more "available" from the FL community.
So let's be realistic
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Guys,
What is the best and most GF 5* Hotel in Pattaya? How far are the 5* resorts from night action? Is there a transport problem, especially at night?
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The Metaphysics of Mongering
What a great discussion! Just to add my own two baht's worth of commentary, I'm sure that Angus and Kumbu are correct: how we interpret "reality" will determine what we take (and give) to any situation, since reality is largely a matter of projection. The most fundamental precept of Buddhism, which, at some level must be critical for most Thais, is respect and compassion for others. To the extent that we exhibit this trait determines to a large extent, how Thais will react to us. A derisive, superior attitude will elicit a generally cold, calculating response, where as the converse will also hold true: the extent to which we can be gracious, respectful and engaged will elicit more warmth and kindness.
My observations, both in Thailand and in the Philippines where I live, suggests that the guys who treat women as sperm repositories tend to treat most people--not only WGs--disdainfully, which is why the locals dismiss them and their arrogance as unworthy of any respect.
GE
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]I said it before and I'll say it AGAIN (for those who either ignore the obvious or refuse to SEE IT) - the girls in the trade are there for ONE THING - the money. No matter what reason family support being the usual one (like the Thai "joke" about the man plows fields but the only field the girl plows is the one between her legs).[/QUOTE]
I never quite get the point when someone points out that pros are doing it for the money. Of course they are. Isn't anyone doing any job for pay doing it for the money. That is why we work isn't it? Money is just energy in a particular form we have all decided is convenient for barter. If you have a lot in the bank it just menas that you have a lot of that particular form of energy in reserve and can, if you wish, trade it for another form of much prized energy-divine feminine energy. More commonly known as pussy.
My point is that it is all illusion (not just the sex trade) and one needs only decide how much of the illusion one wants to see. I personally would not go to a movie and then spend the whole time complaining that Indiana Jones is [b]actually[/b] a 50 something actor and his daring stunts are [b]actually[/b] being performed by 20 something professional stunt men. I enjoy the movie for which I have paid good money. If Indiana falls in love, loses the girl then recues her from the Nazis and saves the world from Satan-I am happy for him and for myself to the extent that I identify with the hero. Then I leave the theater feeling satisfied for a couple of hours.
[QUOTE=Dinghy]So let's be realistic[/QUOTE]
Please-if I wanted realism I would walk in front of a bus. And even then I suspect I would just find another level of illusion. It is a fun house, a house of mirrors in which we live. Find a reflection that is prettier than you are and enjoy.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]I think this says more about Amjeck than it does about working girls in Thailand. Let's refer to this as [b][u]The Amjeck Doctrine.[/u][/b]
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I like your post, and your coined term "amjeck doctrine" is funny( I didn't include all of the post in the quotes, however)
My views say a lot about the the working girls not just about me. They may be radical and sometimes difficult to accept but I've been mongering in Thailand for years. How long have you?
I always try to beat the point in hard so that fellow mongers don't stray into the "Thai void/scam/trap" that I've seen so many people fall into.
Yes, you can have a lot of fun and have emotional exchanges with p4p girls, and many people do. I always advise to stay emotionally detached (love and deep feelings - not fun and excitment) and to treat it as a business transaction, because in the end that is how the girls view it (This isn't the Philippines). Consider it like a mental condom.
What you do and how you treat the girls is entirely up to you. But please when/if you start "losing" don't come running to the board crying to us. I think you've done that once already, Kumbu :)
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[QUOTE=Nabucco]Guys,
What is the best and most GF 5* Hotel in Pattaya? How far are the 5* resorts from night action? Is there a transport problem, especially at night?[/QUOTE]
Many 4* and 5* hotels are not girl/guest friendly, even in Pattaya. Usually, they will charge a hefty joiner fee (typically amounting 500-1000 baht and sometimes more in the most luxurious places) for any guest that was not previously registered.
The following nice hotels and resorts were not charging any joiner fee the last time I've checked it (but it's better to send them an email and ask them the question to be sure before booking your room):
- Pattaya Marriot Resort & Spa: [url]http://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/pyxmc-pattaya-marriott-resort-and-spa/[/url]
- Tim Boutique Hotel: [url]http://www.timboutiquehotel.com/[/url]
- Mantra Pura Resort: [url]http://www.lkpattaya.com/index1.php?hotel=MantraPuraResort[/url]
- Sugar Hut: [url]http://www.sugar-hut.com/[/url]
- Rabbit Resort: [url]http://www.rabbitresort.com/[/url]
Most of the nicest resorts are not very near the action -- I would say about 10-15 minutes from the center of Pattaya city on average by road -- but transportation is usually not an issue even at night. Many luxury resorts have their own shuttle/transportation service (but it's often not free of charge).
But it's also relatively easy to find a regular [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songthaew"]songthaew[/url] that you may use as a "private taxi" for a specific route. You will have to pay more than for a regular ride then (often more than 100 baht each time then) especially since your resort would be located a bit away from the city center.
If you choose to stay in a remote resort, you should keep with you their business card / location map (preferably with instructions or names written in Thai) or at least the phone number of the resort when you go in town, for showing it to the "taxi" drivers when you want to come back to your room.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]
A few days ago I was lying flat on my back while 2 young ladies were probing my mouth with their fingers and touching my face all over for at least half an hour. They did it purely for the MONEY.
It was a female dentist and her assistant. They were cleaning my teeth. Of course, since they were not providing me with sex, I'm sure that Amjeck would probably not look down his nose at them, (one never knows, however; he might be disgusted with ALL women), but aside from the sex, I can't discern any difference between those ladies and the ones I invite to my room to take care of Daddy.
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You obviously don't know much about Thai culture.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]You obviously don't know much about Thai culture.[/QUOTE]
You're right about that.
I assume you refer to the fact that in Thai culture most Thai's look down their noses at hookers. That's no surprize to me. Most Americans are the same, and so are most of the rest in the world. The mainstream culture despises hookers.
I believe unfairly so. All the hookers I know seem to have the same faults, and in the same quantity as other people.
Those who have become hardened IMHO have become that way as a mental defense against punters with shitty attitudes about them and their profession.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]... I assume you refer to the fact that in Thai culture most Thai's look down their noses at hookers. That's no surprize to me. Most Americans are the same, and so are most of the rest in the world. The mainstream culture despises hookers...[/QUOTE]
Hookers are less ostracized in Thailand than in most Western countries. A young woman would be ashamed if she was not able to help (financially) her parents and other members of her family. It does not matter much what she does and from where she gets her money as long as her relatives live a decent enough life thanks to her.
At least in the lesser privileged parts of the Thai society, the more money you have, the more respect you get. Of course, it's better if you have a regular (not P4P related) job, but you can be certain that a successful hooker who takes good care of her parents is more respected than a poor farm girl who cannot help financially her relatives much.
By the way, you've certainly noticed that in the Land of Smiles, people with a fair complexion are better considered than those whose skin is darker. It's not only for aesthetic reasons, but as it was the case in Europe in the past (not anymore nowadays), because the color of your skin is also a (relatively reliable) hint about your social status: if you are working every day under the hard sun (in a rice field, for instance), your skin will be dark and people may assume that you are poor. Most Thai girls want to have a whiter skin (hence the commercial success of whitening creams in this country), not only because they believe that they would be more beautiful, but also because people would pay them more respect as they won't immediately assume that a girl with a fair complexion is coming from a poor family of peasants.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]You obviously don't know much about Thai culture.[/QUOTE]
He does know a lot about the Thai culture that is why everytime I see him he has the look as if the cat just ate twitty bird. Always happy as if there isn't a worry in the world! I think the reason why he looks so happy and content for a Expat living in Pattaya is that he understands the Thai culture very well and makes sure he keeps a safe distant away.
Many have spoken of such a Farang walking or riding his motorbike down Jomtien looking always fresh and happy looking. Many refer to him as the " White Monk of Jomtien " Living high atop his Condo with a string of birds coming and going to visit him in his Temple.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I like the disco scene. I'm with you though. No need to stay there all night. I like to get there early, find something nice, and get the hell out of there. Especially being a Cheap Charlie. I would rather leave with her about 1230 and have a nice long night for my 1000 baht than stay in a disco until 4am buying all kinds of drinks and still have to pay the same 1000 baht for a short night that I am too tired to enjoy.[/QUOTE]
Well said, Grasshoppa!
Six weeks and counting down to my first Pattaya adventure!!
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I like the discussion about reality and add the following:
Judgements like bad or good have nothing to do with reality. They are based on morals and rules which are created by religions, societies, governments, economic systems etc. When I see sombody driving his car on the right sight of the street (reality) this is correct in the USA but not in the LOS. When a woman walks naked through a village (reality) this is "bad" in our world but in a little jungle society this might be standard. There is a big variety of reasons for creating morals and rules.
The reality we are discussing is that we mongerers are in Pattaya and give money to a girl for having sex (might have many reasons) and the girl is in pattaya rendering sex services to us for money (might have many reasons). In reality we are on the same level, part of the same deal. If not, the deal is not possible. When sombody in this situation has to see himself superior to the other, this exactly defines himself (his morals, rules etc.) and says nothing, realy nothing, about the reality or about the other person.
Another question is whether we have a "good" or "bad" deal. Maybe the girl is in general a bad provider (can have many reasons) or the monger is not able to select a girl who really suits his expectations (can have many reasons). IMHO the best deals occur when they are based on pure reality. No lies about myself and no lies about the girl.
One further thing which complicates our deal is, that we mongerers not decide ourselves that we now need sex. Something in our body gives us the order and we are unhappy when we cannot satisfy the upcoming need. This influences our behavier and the way we wish to see our sex deal a lot. I am not twenty any more, let's say I am fifty up and I have periods when I need more sex and periods where I do not need it so much. I could not say that latter are less satisfying...
There would be a lot of other interesting points (what about needs, feelings, wishes, expectations etc.?) which had to be considered but ok, ok, I stop. I just wanted to say: Reality is neutral and it makes us not happier when we make bad what we buy.
Last I post a pic of a girl I met in Phuket. She had a business practice I would call "taking care of". I was 7 days with her and she showed me the restaurants, (gogo)bars and discos I like. When she saw that I like thai food she invited me when she cooked for her girl friends. I liked to see the whole island and she showed me every interesting point etc. and last but not least she provided the sex I like. Not a 10 (looks) but same level me (considering where she was born and which chances she had inher live may be she made it better than me). I paid her 2'000 per day. Some girls only know the way from there rooms to the bar and back.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]He does know a lot about the Thai culture that is why everytime I see him he has the look as if the cat just ate twitty bird. Always happy as if there isn't a worry in the world! I think the reason why he looks so happy and content for a Expat living in Pattaya is that he understands the Thai culture very well and makes sure he keeps a safe distant away.
Many have spoken of such a Farang walking or riding his motorbike down Jomtien looking always fresh and happy looking. Many refer to him as the " White Monk of Jomtien " Living high atop his Condo with a string of birds coming and going to visit him in his Temple.
LBM[/QUOTE]
Why would you say he knows a lot about Thai culture, yet below in his post he says he doesn't? Not sure what you're point is.
Anyhow, I don't think we should clog this "Pattaya" section full of cultural talk.
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THIS is a representation of reality. Too many wearing rose coloured glasses here.
[url]http://www.pattayamail.com/882/pictures/Life%20in%20Fun%20City%20881.jpg[/url]
(it's a cartoon - Pattayamail has a new one every week and an archive of old ones a well)
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Please-if I wanted realism I would walk in front of a bus. And even then I suspect I would just find another level of illusion.[/QUOTE]Hah! This is one for the ages! It gets my vote for quote of the year. [QUOTE=Amjeck]I always try to beat the point in hard so that fellow mongers don't stray into the "Thai void/scam/trap" that I've seen so many people fall into.[/QUOTE]I actually get this from your posts. You'll notice that I have never once suggested you stop with the hard rhetoric. I think it is incorrect, and have tried to explain why, but I still think your view serves an important purpose on this board. Your posts, I think, are intended to help other mongers, and that should be applauded. No matter how rough you might seem, I think you do communicate from the heart. You softie, Amjeck![QUOTE=Amjeck]But please when/if you start "losing" don't come running to the board crying to us. I think you've done that once already, Kumbu [/QUOTE]I would say that I never lose. Nor do I win. I only experience. And what some might see as running to the board crying, I prefer to interpret as reporting my experiences. I'm not sure which post you interpret as me crying to the board - if you choose, they could all be described as a bit cry-babyish. I prefer to think of them as honest (I would say that, though, wouldn't I?). But you'll notice that along with the one post you interpret as me crying, I also reported on many, many other things which might be interpreted as me shouting from the top of the mountain like I am the hero of a Steven Spielberg movie. So unlike some members, I report the things that boost my ego and those that might damage my ego. Why worry about your ego on an anonymous board like this?
I think I shall continue to do that (report positives and negatives), in the hope that others will see what I experience and what the ultimate consequences of that are. You try to help fellow mongers by banging the Amjeck Doctrine into their heads (or any other doctrine, for that matter), and I will try to help fellow mongers (and myself, to be honest) by reporting on my experiences. That seems like an amicable compromise.
Now, if I could only find a way to get Little Kumbu back into the clutches of a Thai sweetie...
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Why would you say he knows a lot about Thai culture, yet below in his post he says he doesn't? Not sure what you're point is.
Anyhow, I don't think we should clog this "Pattaya" section full of cultural talk.[/QUOTE]
Amjeck,
I think its a little late to talk about clogging up this thread... He is just playing with words..and with you. The point is he knows enough of about Thai culture that he personally doesn't get too deeply involve that it ruins his paradise! Some people only have a one track mine and going down that track works for him.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]
Now, if I could only find a way to get Little Kumbu back into the clutches of a Thai sweetie...[/QUOTE]
It's addicting isn't it? Almost worse than drugs! Be smart and play your cards right and you shall have lots more thai sweeties in your life.
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I think I shall continue to do that (report positives and negatives), in the hope that others will see what I experience and what the ultimate consequences of that are. You try to help fellow mongers by banging the Amjeck Doctrine into their heads (or any other doctrine, for that matter), and I will try to help fellow mongers (and myself, to be honest) by reporting on my experiences. That seems like an amicable compromise.
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Yes, please do. I find your posts informative, imaginative, and just plain fun to read.
Slim
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Kumbu,
Whether things goes good or bad, whether you get burn or not, whether the Thai ladies gang up on you in the disco! you got two things many guys on this board don't!
1. You're a AssMan! Not sure if you said this " You are either born a AssMan or you're not "
2. You got the Kumbu move!
So in the future good or bad, get them in bed first use your move and they will melt like ice for you. Forget the silk shirt! With the move you can get them to do anything. Your can turn a roaring tigeress into a pussy cat.
LBM
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Everyones reality is different
Well said.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Amjeck,
I think its a little late to talk about clogging up this thread... He is just playing with words..and with you. The point is he knows enough of about Thai culture that he personally doesn't get too deeply involve that it ruins his paradise! Some people only have a one track mine and going down that track works for him.
LBM[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Geez, Kumbu ... you think too much ... it makes me dizzy.
The reality is that Amjeck was probably taught as a small child that sex is dirty and evil, therefore, in his mind, anyone who would provide sex to strangers for a living -- you know, for money -- must also be dirty, evil, and unworthy of the basic respect due to other human beings.
Fantasy has nothing to do with it. It's about ATTITUDE!
A few days ago I was lying flat on my back while 2 young ladies were probing my mouth with their fingers and touching my face all over for at least half an hour. They did it purely for the MONEY.
It was a female dentist and her assistant. They were cleaning my teeth. Of course, since they were not providing me with sex, I'm sure that Amjeck would probably not look down his nose at them, (one never knows, however; he might be disgusted with ALL women), but aside from the sex, I can't discern any difference between those ladies and the ones I invite to my room to take care of Daddy.
I feel sorry for my friend, Amjeck. I can't imagine how he can take much pleasure in the ladies with that kind of attitude.
Our hobby is about a whole hell of a lot more than just "playing in the gutter."[/QUOTE]
Really!?!
Were you careful not to bring too much money with you so that they could not sneak money out of your pocket while you were distracted by dental work?
Probably not.
Did they try to clean only some of your teeth when you weren’t looking and try to get you out faster so they could do something else (boyfriend, sleep, shop, eat)!?!
Probably not.
Did you catch them lying –you handsome man, we like falang more that Thai, etc. (even little white lies)
Probably not.
Did they tell you how much you suddenly mean to them, asking you to stay in touch and saying they would love to get out of dentistry if only someone would take care of them when in fact they are planning to hit you up for money via western union!?!
Probably not.
When comparing some common traits of dentists/dental assistants and Thai hookers I see vast differences and if you don’t then either you are either just being argumentative or are somehow able operate in your own reality (which is fine if it works for you but your reality does not at all work for me.)
Are all hookers like this - no. But after time, USUALLY, the associated difficulties of hookering will beat down even the sweetest girl. Those who are not are the exceptions - and there certainly are exceptions. Perhaps you have only experienced the exceptions. If so, bravo, well done and continued success. But those are exceptions, not the norm. The norm is that over time MOST will become some version of this evolution.
And lets not even bring up the discussion that people who choose this type of existence may have some imbalance the prevents them from choosing conventional careers (hookering is not a career or “profession’. It’s a FAILURE to choose a career or real profession – even in Thailand). Like a lot of things we do out of need, the occasional transgression can be overlooked. The danger being that if continued too long it may come to define you and that’s what we are talking about here isn’t it. The girls that have been at this long enough (no matter what their age – some burn out at a young age) to have their character, attitude, behavior, you name it, defined by this extremely difficult environment that is hookering. They are human beings after all, as you say - not good not bad but defined by their actions or attitude and as you say “its all about attitude” after all.
Most experienced mongers have developed a keen sense about these things. It usually takes only a few minutes of carefully directed conversation to decide what you have sitting in front of you. We approach every situation with the highest expectations but realize that no matter how sweet the fragrance it could all turn to insanity in a New York minute and we’re ready for that. If not then it's another great outing and as they say Bob’s your uncle…
Daddy 07, you surprise me. Amjeck knows this and has been at this too long to fall for such fanciful thinking…
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point of view
[quote=daddy07]a few days ago i was lying flat on my back while 2 young ladies were probing my mouth with their fingers and touching my face all over for at least half an hour. they did it purely for the money.
it was a female dentist and her assistant. they were cleaning my teeth.
[and] of course, not providing me with sex... but aside from the sex, i can't discern any difference between those ladies and the ones i invite to my room to take care of daddy.[/quote]
i think daddy07 has a good point here, although he may have stretched it a bit too far. obviously dentists and their hygienists have gone through a little more education, training, and certification than your average thai sw. still the point is valid. both beethoven and the rolling stones are musicians and worked in the entertainment industry. some people cannot see that.
i see prostitutes as workers in the healthcare service industry. is what a girl performs in an oily massage parlor so different from what a "legitimate" masseuse does, that they deserve to be looked down upon by some? the filth is in the mind. isn't having sex when needed or wanted therapeutic? therefore relieving their client’s sexual tension is not that far off from having a physical fitness expert massage a patient’s pulled tendon.
if prostitution was legal in the western world and made affordable, i am sure [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and violent crime against women would decline dramatically and marriage divorce rates as well. so i agree that your go go girl (sexual provider) is in a service industry helping her clients, whether society looks at it that way or not.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Really!?!
Were you careful not to bring too much money with you so that they could not sneak money out of your pocket while you were distracted by dental work?
Probably not.[/Quote]
If you do a bit of research, you will find that many of Thailand's private hospitals and clinics have dubious reps for overcharging. Fact is, it's a way of life from top to bottom in the country that deserves it's nickname 'the land of scams'.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Did they try to clean only some of your teeth when you weren’t looking and try to get you out faster so they could do something else (boyfriend, sleep, shop, eat)!?!
Probably not.[/Quote]
Again, this type of practice goes on at all levels in Thailand, from taxis through to 5* hotels and beyond.
[Quote=Rjsss21]Did you catch them lying –you handsome man, we like falang more that Thai, etc. (even little white lies)
Probably not.[/Quote]
Allow me to let you in on a well-kept secret (:D): Lying and flattery are a way of life in Thailand.
I'm always reminded of these wise words by a former poster whenever I read the ugly, dismissive, disparaging comments about Thai prostitutes:
[Quote=Joe Zop]There's a difference between knowing how things work and heaping scorn on sex workers because of it.[/Quote]
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212]... hookering is not a career or “profession’. It’s a FAILURE to choose a career or real profession – even in Thailand…[/QUOTE]
A failure? Most hookers earn a lot more than the average wage in the Land of Smiles (even without taking into account extra income they get from their sponsors!)! Most of the Thai prostitutes are coming from the rural and poorest parts of their country where the education level is very low (they have the worst teachers and don't learn much more than very basic things).
People who were born in a poor village don't have many opportunities to attend a good university. Not because they are all stupid, but because the dices are loaded. In these areas, they are not educating the sons and daughters of peasants to become something else other than future farmers, peasants or blue-collar workers.
I know how some local girls choose to become prostitutes. Those girls know very well that it's their best chance for them and their parents (because they usually help them financially too) to live a better life. So, this choice of career is not a failure for them. IMHO, it should not even be considered as the failure of the local educational system, because this state of things in the poorest parts of the country is almost certainly intentional (it serves the purposes of the local elite).
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Has anyone seen this girl?
I took her from Shark Bar a year ago. Her name was Noot and she had a great smile (and huge boobs for such a small girl). Had fun with her, but didn't get any contact info. Anyone seen her?
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newbie Bangkok question
Planning a first-time trip to Thailand in a few months and planning on staying in Pattaya. From reading this forum it appears to me that Pattaya is a better option for price and ease of mongering compared to Bangkok. I will be arriving in Bangkok on a Saturday afternoon and spending a week in country. Would it be worthwhile to spend the first night in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya the next day or is the city too complicated to navigate for a true newbie that just got off the plane and only has a few hours?
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[QUOTE=Edward M]Planning a first-time trip to Thailand in a few months and planning on staying in Pattaya. From reading this forum it appears to me that Pattaya is a better option for price and ease of mongering compared to Bangkok. I will be arriving in Bangkok on a Saturday afternoon and spending a week in country. Would it be worthwhile to spend the first night in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya the next day or is the city too complicated to navigate for a true newbie that just got off the plane and only has a few hours?[/QUOTE]
If all you have is one week, then heading straight for Pat is not a bad idea. It is about a 2 hour drive, so if you can arrange to get there before 7pm to 8pm, then you will have the entire night in Pat and it will be great.
Otherwise, I would spend Saturday night in BKK. It is not that hard to navigate the city if your main interest is in bar hopping and getting laid. Read up on BKK hotels and pick a girl friendly Sukhumvit hotel in your price range near Soi Cowboy. I prefer BKK to Pat because there is a lot more to see and do. BKK is a major Asian city and is full of culture. But I have to admit that Pattaya is sexual Disneyland and it will blow your mind. For example, Soi Cowboy is great, but it is only one block long. Walking Street is 10 times longer (estimate).
The time your plane is scheduled to leave Thailand should also influence you planning. If the plane leaves late at night or very early in the morning, then I suggest spending your last night in BKK. Otherwise you can just go from Pat straight to the airport.
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]If all you have is one week, then heading straight for Pat is not a bad idea. It is about a 2 hour drive, so if you can arrange to get there before 7pm, then you will have the entire night in Pat and it will be great.[/QUOTE]I am getting in around 2:30 so should be able to make it by 7PM.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Otherwise, I would spend Saturday night in BKK. It is not that hard to navigate the city if your main interest is in bar hopping and getting laid. Read up on BKK hotels and pick a girl friendly Sukumvit hotel in your price range near Soi Cowboy. I prefer BKK to Pat because there is a lot more to see and do, but I have to admit that Pattaya will blow your mind. For example, Soi Cowboy is great, but it is only one block long. Walking is street 10 times longer (estimate).[/QUOTE]Well bar hopping and getting laid are my only interests. I will probably need to eat at some point too. It just might seem a little weird to go all the way to Bangkok and not see the city at all.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]The time your plane is scheduled to leave Thailand should also influence you planning. If the plane leaves late at night or very early in the morning, then I suggest spending your last night in BKK. Otherwise you can just go from Pat straight to the airport.[/QUOTE]I am leaving at noon. Does that classify as very early in the morning? Maybe the last night is the night I should spend there. Hmmm. Thanks for the feedback.
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[QUOTE=Edward M]Planning a first-time trip to Thailand in a few months and planning on staying in Pattaya. From reading this forum it appears to me that Pattaya is a better option for price and ease of mongering compared to Bangkok. I will be arriving in Bangkok on a Saturday afternoon and spending a week in country. Would it be worthwhile to spend the first night in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya the next day or is the city too complicated to navigate for a true newbie that just got off the plane and only has a few hours?[/QUOTE]The city is tourists friendly and not complicated to navigate at all, Taxis are cheap mostly reliable. It is all depending if you're trying to cope with your jetlag or not. A day of rest in Bangkok is a good idea before you jump into another 3 hours of journey to Pattaya and let you compare what you'll be getting at Bangkok.
Have fun mongering.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212]Are all hookers like this - no. But after time, USUALLY, the associated difficulties of hookering will beat down even the sweetest girl. Those who are not are the exceptions - and there certainly are exceptions. Perhaps you have only experienced the exceptions. If so, bravo, well done and continued success. But those are exceptions, not the norm. The norm is that over time MOST will become some version of this evolution.[/QUOTE]In the end a human is a human, all professions have there share of lying,deceitful human, all capable of absolute arseholery on personal and professional levels. This could be evidenced by innumerable evidence from life the internet and peoples personal accounts.
I now follow the "Kumbujeck Doctrine" basically a life manual on dealing with people in every situation.
Keep an open mind, try to enjoy the "experience" and sprinkle it with some hard edged caution.
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[QUOTE=Edward M]Planning a first-time trip to Thailand in a few months and planning on staying in Pattaya. From reading this forum it appears to me that Pattaya is a better option for price and ease of mongering compared to Bangkok. I will be arriving in Bangkok on a Saturday afternoon and spending a week in country. Would it be worthwhile to spend the first night in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya the next day or is the city too complicated to navigate for a true newbie that just got off the plane and only has a few hours?[/QUOTE]
Personally I would rush straight to Pattaya! Make a reservation for a limousine with Mr T (1000 THB from airport to your place in Pattaya, in 1h30) (drive to an hotel in Bangkok is maybe 45 mn), sleep on the back seat if you are tired and enjoy relaxing in Pattaya. Bangkok is not relaxing and very hot. Bangkok is only worh staying if you want to visit touristic places (Grand Palace, etc...). For one night it's not worth staying there.
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[QUOTE=Edward M]Planning a first-time trip to Thailand in a few months and planning on staying in Pattaya. From reading this forum it appears to me that Pattaya is a better option for price and ease of mongering compared to Bangkok. I will be arriving in Bangkok on a Saturday afternoon and spending a week in country. Would it be worthwhile to spend the first night in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya the next day or is the city too complicated to navigate for a true newbie that just got off the plane and only has a few hours?[/QUOTE]
As you only have a week I would go straight to Pattaya as the airport is on that side of Bangkok. You should be in Pattaya around 5pm if you get to BKK airport around 2pm .
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[QUOTE=Edward M]Planning a first-time trip to Thailand in a few months and planning on staying in Pattaya. From reading this forum it appears to me that Pattaya is a better option for price and ease of mongering compared to Bangkok. I will be arriving in Bangkok on a Saturday afternoon and spending a week in country. Would it be worthwhile to spend the first night in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya the next day or is the city too complicated to navigate for a true newbie that just got off the plane and only has a few hours?[/QUOTE]
It depends on what kind of girls you like. Pattaya is cheaper than bkk, but you get what you pay for. Bangkok is a mega city and has more variety of girls and if you know where to look (and have cash) you can pretty much get anything you want.
So basically, if you want cheap and easy go to Pattaya. If you want top of the line, go to BKK.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I never quite get the point when someone points out that pros are doing it for the money. Of course they are. Isn't anyone doing any job for pay doing it for the money. That is why we work isn't it? Money is just energy in a particular form we have all decided is convenient for barter. If you have a lot in the bank it just menas that you have a lot of that particular form of energy in reserve and can, if you wish, trade it for another form of much prized energy-divine feminine energy. More commonly known as pussy.
My point is that it is all illusion (not just the sex trade) and one needs only decide how much of the illusion one wants to see. I personally would not go to a movie and then spend the whole time complaining that Indiana Jones is [b]actually[/b] a 50 something actor and his daring stunts are [b]actually[/b] being performed by 20 something professional stunt men. I enjoy the movie for which I have paid good money. If Indiana falls in love, loses the girl then recues her from the Nazis and saves the world from Satan-I am happy for him and for myself to the extent that I identify with the hero. Then I leave the theater feeling satisfied for a couple of hours.
Please-if I wanted realism I would walk in front of a bus. And even then I suspect I would just find another level of illusion. It is a fun house, a house of mirrors in which we live. Find a reflection that is prettier than you are and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Dude,
Have you been listening to Bill Hicks?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]It depends on what kind of girls you like. Pattaya is cheaper than bkk, but you get what you pay for. Bangkok is a mega city and has more variety of girls and if you know where to look (and have cash) you can pretty much get anything you want.
So basically, if you want cheap and easy go to Pattaya. If you want top of the line, go to BKK.[/QUOTE]
In Edward M's case I would suggest going directly to Patts. He would only have 1 day in BKK and he doesn't know where to look. Save BKK for the next trip. I am sure he can find a hottie or two in Pattaya.
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My suggestion
[QUOTE=Edward M]Planning a first-time trip to Thailand in a few months and planning on staying in Pattaya. From reading this forum it appears to me that Pattaya is a better option for price and ease of mongering compared to Bangkok. I will be arriving in Bangkok on a Saturday afternoon and spending a week in country. Would it be worthwhile to spend the first night in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya the next day or is the city too complicated to navigate for a true newbie that just got off the plane and only has a few hours?[/QUOTE]
Negotiate with a taxi driver for about 1000 baht to take you to Pattaya from the airport. I prefer to do it at the the departure level because they have little time to make their decision. Make clear to him that you'll pay yourself extra for the toll way (about 80 baht) otherwise he will try to avoid it in order to save some baht. Choose a new taxi for more confortable ride.
Enjoy Pattaya untill the previous day of your departure. Then after breakfast take a taxi to a Bangkok hotel near Shukumvit road. Visit a soapie (IMHO a must for a first comer eg Annies close by) in early afternoon, Tulip or Mango later on if you have the strength, then go to Gulliver's on Sukhumvit soi 5 for a nice dinner and pick up a lady from there for the night or from soi Cowboy or Nana area near by and you are done with BKK.
Make sure to arrange for a wake up call and try to be two hours ahead at the airport. It is a long way to the gates.
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[QUOTE=El Frances]Personally I would rush straight to Pattaya! Make a reservation for a limousine with Mr T (1000 THB from airport to your place in Pattaya, in 1h30) (drive to an hotel in Bangkok is maybe 45 mn), sleep on the back seat if you are tired and enjoy relaxing in Pattaya. Bangkok is not relaxing and very hot. Bangkok is only worh staying if you want to visit touristic places (Grand Palace, etc...). For one night it's not worth staying there.[/QUOTE]
I would also recommend to go straight to Pattaya in Edward M's case. It's easier for a newbie to get some experience about the local P4P scene here first. P4P is available almost everywhere in Pattaya. The working girls knows why you are there and more often than not, they are the ones who will take the initiative and start a chat. Even the shyest guy will get laid really quickly in Pattaya with no or minimum hassles.
In Bangkok, the red districts are a small part of the city. P4P is more expensive there and probably less "newbie friendly" than Pattaya. But Pattaya may be a bit boring early in the day, while Bangkok seems to be perpetually bustling with activity.
For a first and short sojourn, I would recommend to stay most of your time first in Pattaya, and your last two days (for instance) in Bangkok (Sukhumvit area).
Edward M, if you want to use a private taxi service to go to Pattaya straight after your arrival at the airport, several reliable ones are mentioned here:
[post]1017830[/post]
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[QUOTE=Terrym1]I took her from Shark Bar a year ago. Her name was Noot and she had a great smile (and huge boobs for such a small girl). Had fun with her, but didn't get any contact info. Anyone seen her?[/QUOTE]
If you really want to find lady Noot, then go back to the Shark Bar and ask the ladies there about her. Bar ladies usually know each other. And some of the ladies there might know where to find lady Noot.
But you shouldn't be surprised if lady Noot has found a permanent man for herself, and she no longer is available to go out with other guys. A lot of guys like the kind of boobs she has. Ladies like that usually don't take long to find a permanent rich farang for themselves.
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212]...this extremely difficult environment that is hookering.
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Its funny you should put it that way because most Thai women I know consider 'hookering' to be the 'easy way out'. Its a lot easier to make 1,000 baht in an hour of sex than in a week of heavy toil cleaning rooms, cooking, or factorying.
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Always the contrarian
[QUOTE=Edward M]Planning a first-time trip to Thailand in a few months and planning on staying in Pattaya. From reading this forum it appears to me that Pattaya is a better option for price and ease of mongering compared to Bangkok. I will be arriving in Bangkok on a Saturday afternoon and spending a week in country. Would it be worthwhile to spend the first night in Bangkok and then go to Pattaya the next day or is the city too complicated to navigate for a true newbie that just got off the plane and only has a few hours?[/QUOTE]It seems the general consensus is that you should high-tail it down to Pattaya. I would not disagree with that assessment, but for the sake of complicating matters, here are some other ideas.
Having just spent a month in Thailand during which I spent a lot of time in BKK and Pattaya, I can tell you that both places are excellent. BKK is not too complicated to deal with, and there is plenty of excitement to be had.
If it were me, and this is just me, I would spend the first 3 nights in BKK and the last 4 in Pattaya. The day trip down to Pattaya is not a waste of time since I usually don't monger during the day (that's just me). Furthermore, you could take a taxi from Pattaya on your last day and be at the airport by the time your flight departs with no problem.
Pattaya is indeed far simpler, but that does not always mean better. Everything in Pattaya is...compact. All the action is in a tight area, and there is little traveling that needs to be done. So four nights will be enough to fully sample the goods on offer here.
BKK is a big city with far more options. There are many different kinds of massage places, gogo bars, high-end dance halls, regular discos, loads of SWs, etc. The variety is far greater, and the prices are indeed higher. I find the excitement of BKK is something you can't find in Pattaya, but there is the added hassle of traffic and congestion. On the plus side, the food is FAR better in BKK than in Pattaya. For whatever reason, I find I cannot get a decent meal in Pattaya, but maybe that's the snob in me.
So overall, I would not shy away from splitting your trip between the two places. If you are shy and a little meek, I would say go to Pattaya - it's easier. Everything is set up for the sex tourist. If you are up for a challenge (and enjoy such things), I would split my time between the two places.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]On the plus side, the food is FAR better in BKK than in Pattaya. For whatever reason, I find I cannot get a decent meal in Pattaya, but maybe that's the snob in me.
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It's not the snob in you. You're statement is spot on! I can't figure out why the food in Pattaya sucks either.
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I don´t know, I´ve always gotten good food at this place: [url]http://www.gregskitchennorthpattaya.com/[/url]
But I´m not much of a food snob.
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Pattaya Food
I always had really good food at Sugar Hut and Cabbages & Condoms; both in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]On the plus side, the food is FAR better in BKK than in Pattaya. For whatever reason, I find I cannot get a decent meal in Pattaya, but maybe that's the snob in me.[/QUOTE]
Can you be specific about where you've eaten in Patts and Bangers?
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[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Can you be specific about where you've eaten in Patts and Bangers?[/QUOTE]Umm, I'll try. Sorry, not for lack of want, but I just don't remember many names. I'll show you what I mean:
- A hotel on second road, past South Pattaya Road (I think this is technically called Pratamnak rd.). It isn't the Erawan hotel, but nearby, a little closer to S. P. road, and on the same side as Erawan hotel. Had noodles, rice, Tom Yum, all no good.
- The various Arab restaurants across the street from there, all mediocre at best.
- The Wave in the Marriott building - terrible food, way overpriced. I tried the Thai booth, the Indian booth, and that's all I could handle.
- Some place on soi 2, they had free wifi so I stopped in and tried some pad siu. Terrible.
- Coffee Club. This place is not all that bad - a little expensive and snooty, but not terrible. The best thing I have had in there was the cashew chicken. Their breakfast eggs and stuff are not terribly good, mostly because of the bread they have. They only have white bread, but if you request it, they will give you something they call Turkish bread, which is basically thick white bread. Their coffee is ok.
- breakfast at various places like Lek Hotel, that cheap hotel on the corner of soi Diana and 2nd road (the one that advertises 600B rooms? forget the name).
- I ate at that outdoors place opposite soi Diana on 2nd rd (on the beach side) once with a girl. She ordered, and the fish she got was great, the curry I got was lousy.
- That place on Walking street, next to soi 16, showcasing seafood and stuff. They have a guy who walks around in a cowboy outfit. They have an indoor a/c area, which is why I ate there. The seafood stuff was not bad, other things were not terribly good. Overpriced, IMHO. Wanted to try the French place just down the street from there, but it was a sweltering night and I needed the a/c.
- Some German restaurant on 2nd rd past soi Diana...sorry, can't remember the name.
- That Italian coffee/gelato joint on soi Buakhao. Their coffee is pretty good, but I found their food insipid and overly cheesy. And expensive too.
- The outdoors restaurant right on the corner of soi Diana and 2nd rd (non-beach side). This place is ok - decent prices. The noodles are not to rave about, but you could do worse.
- The restaurant inside the supermarket in that complex right there. It's next to the California Wow. This restaurant is not too bad - it has a/c, so that makes up for a lot. + it's open 24 hours.
- That place next to Marine disco...the outdoor food place. The fish here was actually pretty good, but I can't eat a whole fish by myself. Ever. But it was damned tasty. Other stuff was downright wretched.
- Once, in desperation, I ate at Mr Sandwich. I had a chicken shawarma - tttttterrible.
- food court at Central Festival. Not all that bad, actually.
- That pub on soi Buakhao, with the green sign...the Thingy and Booby? What's it's name? Turn left from soi Diana onto soi Buakhao, it's on your right hand side, before you get to the Italian coffee/gelato place. I ate there once with a girl, and she sat next to me. All I remember about that place is her silky inner thigh in the palm of my hand. That and the 90 minute erection I had.
Umm, that's all I can remember for now. I like the suggestions people are posting - I'm keeping a list and I will be sure to visit them when I return.
So that's Patts. As for...Bangers...did you say? Nice. I'll post that in the, ehem, Bangers section.
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BKK/Pattaya
Edward M:
Pattaya and BKK are both great and you should see them both. My suggestion would be the 2 first nites in BKK. Stay right on the BTS line because the skytrain is so easy to navigate. Spend one night mongering at Nana and the other at Soi Cowboy. They are in the same general area. You would also have a full day to take in the Grand Palace and other sightseeing venues.
The remaining five nights could be spent in Pattaya. After a few days in Pattaya, you'll be able to decide whether or not to spend your last night in Pattaya or BKK.
Check out the hotel forums for both BKK and Pattaya. You'll get good advice there.
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Coconut Bar!
Coconut Bar (Best value for money in Pattaya!)
There have been many posts over the years each promoting a particular type of venue for finding a “playmate” in Pattaya.
Some mongers like the Go – Go’s. Others prefer the massage parlours or Bar Beers. Discos are favoured by some. The list of possible types of venue where you can find P4P company is endless.
Although I would not argue that each of these venues has its own benefits and merits I believe there is a good case for voting “Coconut Bar” as the best overall value for money in the whole of Pattaya.
For those that do not know, “Coconut Bar” is the name that many Thai girls use for the area of Beach Rd. stretching from Walking street in the South to Soi 1 in the north of Pattata, a distance of around 2.5 / 3.0 miles.
Over the years, in response to my question “Where you work?” many Thai girls have told me “I work Coconut Bar!”
I can’t remember the first time I heard this answer but I know that it had to be explained to me that, because the beach side of this road is lined with Palm Trees someone had nicknamed it “Coconut Bar.” The longest bar (and the most girls) in the whole of Pattaya!
From late morning to 4.00 or 5.00 am the next day a wide range of companions can be found here.
OK, quality varies and I have to admit that there can be some real horrors here who should have retired years (or maybe DECADES) ago but there are also some real stunners!
Prices generally average around 500 Baht for short time and many girls are pleased to stay as long as you want, happy to be in your cool A.C. room with some company and out of the heat.
For me, this is my preferred hunting ground when I am looking for a little afternoon fun. A stroll along Beach Rd. will usually come up with a playmate for me. Some of the girls are from Go - Go’s or Bar Beers and are there for some extra money before starting the main job. Some are shop / restaurant workers working the late shift and for some this seems to be the only job and are there virtually 24/7.
Weekends can be rather good, especially towards the end of the month, with many girls catching a bus from the surrounding area to have a little fun in Pattata (and perhaps go back with a little money in their pocket.) and supplement the gap between end of month and end of money!
I believe that many of the girls here are “freelance” or “Part-timers” and they are not so hardened as many of their sisters found in the main P4P venues and offer rather more of a GFE than may be found elsewhere.
One example, from last week. Walking along Beech Road found a sweet young lady sitting on her own. I sat down with her and started to talk. Over the course of my “Job interview” I found out that,
She was 19 years old.
Chinese / Thai (Typical Chinese looking face, with white skin.)
No babies (but still a little bit of “Puppy Fat.”
First trip to Pattaya and had been there just 3 weeks.
Spoke quite reasonable English.
Rather sweet looking.
I usually prefer them a little older, with a bit of experience, but as this one seemed so cute I agreed that I would pay her minimum 400 Baht plus a performance based tip IF she was good.
So, off we go to my room after stopping to buy some drinks for us.
I do not need to go into a full account of the next 3 hours but when a playmate puts your finger into her mouth and then requests you to “put it up her arse” then it is probably a sign that the session may well be an interesting one! Another good sign is when she looks at you with those innocent eyes and asks, “Will you come in my mouth, PLEEEEESE!!”
Well, how could any man refuse such a polite request?
Result, probably one of the BEST sessions that I have had in Pattaya for some years, and YES she got her performance bonus. I even repeated with her one week later. Equally as good if not better.
OK, I can not claim that EVERY session with a “Coconut Bar” girl will be perfect, life is not like that, but the chance to talk to the girl, for as long as you want, to see if she meets YOUR job spec puts YOU in the driving seat!
I have NEVER had any problem with any girl that I found here, being dishonest or trying to steal from me.
As always, YMMV but with a huge amount of choice, time to chat before deciding, and with YOU in control of the situation then I still maintain that “Coconut Bar” is the best overall value for money in the whole of Pattaya.
My lords, and fellow Mongers, I rest my case. Go try!
Hotman.
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[QUOTE=Hotman 666]
One example, from last week. Walking along Beech Road found a sweet young lady sitting on her own. I sat down with her and started to talk. Over the course of my “Job interview” I found out that,
She was 19 years old.
Chinese / Thai (Typical Chinese looking face, with white skin.)
No babies (but still a little bit of “Puppy Fat.”
First trip to Pattaya and had been there just 3 weeks.
Spoke quite reasonable English.
Rather sweet looking.
I usually prefer them a little older, with a bit of experience, but as this one seemed so cute I agreed that I would pay her minimum 400 Baht plus a performance based tip IF she was good.
So, off we go to my room after stopping to buy some drinks for us.
I do not need to go into a full account of the next 3 hours but when a playmate puts your finger into her mouth and then requests you to “put it up her arse” then it is probably a sign that the session may well be an interesting one! Another good sign is when she looks at you with those innocent eyes and asks, “Will you come in my mouth, PLEEEEESE!!”
Well, how could any man refuse such a polite request?
Result, probably one of the BEST sessions that I have had in Pattaya for some years, and YES she got her performance bonus. I even repeated with her one week later. Equally as good if not better.
OK, I can not claim that EVERY session with a “Coconut Bar” girl will be perfect, life is not like that, but the chance to talk to the girl, for as long as you want, to see if she meets YOUR job spec puts YOU in the driving seat!
I have NEVER had any problem with any girl that I found here, being dishonest or trying to steal from me.
As always, YMMV but with a huge amount of choice, time to chat before deciding, and with YOU in control of the situation then I still maintain that “Coconut Bar” is the best overall value for money in the whole of Pattaya.
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Hi,
Good solid well written report Hotman. One does have to wonder though about the innocence (three weeks in Patts?) of a girl who then proceeds to request you stick it up her ass and come in her mouth. Not that I would quibble with her about that. As I often say, just make it believable enough so I don't look too much a fool for believing it;)
Thanks for the report. It makes me want to make another trip to the LOS.
AM
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,
Good solid well written report Hotman. One does have to wonder though about the innocence (three weeks in Patts?) of a girl who then proceeds to request you stick it up her ass and come in her mouth. Not that I would quibble with her about that. As I often say, just make it believable enough so I don't look too much a fool for believing it;)
Thanks for the report. It makes me want to make another trip to the LOS.
AM[/QUOTE]
OK, you may be correct about how long she had been in Pattaya. However she certainly did not know her way around very well so, perhaps!!
Her age was, I am pretty certain, correct. I saw her ID and the photo was almost certainly her.
She certainly was Horny (with a capital H.) and obviously had “some” experience before she came to Pattaya. My guess was she was just one of those girls who LOVE to Fuck!
I must admit that I am not always so lucky. One “Coconut Bar” girl that I took during the same trip passed her “job interview” OK but when we reached my room and she proceeded to get undressed had “Two Fried Eggs” for boobs (although when dressed seemed to have quite a good figure!) I HATE these push up heavily padded bra’s. They should be banned!
Then, to add insult to injury, she proved to be a complete “Dead Starfish!!” in bed.
Oh well, can’t be right every time so, paid her and went out for a replacement!
At 500 Baht each you can afford the occasional mistake!
COCONUT BAR RULES FOREVER!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,
Good solid well written report Hotman. One does have to wonder though about the innocence (three weeks in Patts?) of a girl who then proceeds to request you stick it up her ass and come in her mouth. Not that I would quibble with her about that. As I often say, just make it believable enough so I don't look too much a fool for believing it;)
Thanks for the report. It makes me want to make another trip to the LOS.
AM[/QUOTE]
Well... she mentioned 3 weeks in Pattaya.
Maybe she learnt the ropes for a few months in BKK or ... or.... (as long as we dont go back in her time too much...as at 19yo she is pretty young) :)
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[QUOTE=Bionicman]Well... she mentioned 3 weeks in Pattaya.
Maybe she learnt the ropes for a few months in BKK or ... or.... (as long as we dont go back in her time too much...as at 19yo she is pretty young) :)[/QUOTE]
So many of these girls start a lot younger than 19 yo. Might seem young to you but her experience could very well go back another 4 years or so with multiple thai boys from her village.
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trip planning
[QUOTE=Edward M]I am getting in around 2:30 so should be able to make it by 7PM.
Well bar hopping and getting laid are my only interests. I will probably need to eat at some point too. It just might seem a little weird to go all the way to Bangkok and not see the city at all.
I am leaving at noon. Does that classify as very early in the morning? Maybe the last night is the night I should spend there. Hmmm. Thanks for the feedback.[/QUOTE]
First off, Bangkok and Pattaya are like different planets. For all out mongering, entirely in gogo's and beer bars (or that sort of thing) Pattaya is the place. For a more "standard" night life (still with guarantee of getting laid of course), Bangkok has much more to offer (massages, gogo's, discos, night clubs, beer gardens, escorts, pool bars, BJ bars, high class clubs, low class clubs, high class massage places, and the list goes on). The difference is Pattaya is 100% in your face, and 100% available, where as Bangkok requires more research (but not much) and is more spread out but has a lot more to offer in every regard. The other difference may be the price; if you are sensitive to that then Pats is probably a better choice. And finally, Bangkok of course has way more culture and cultural activities...although there is plenty to do and see in Pattaya if you wish.
Contrary to some posts on ISG, Pattaya has excellent food...you just have to pay for it. That's one of the better things about Pats actually: it has good food, golf, and tons of things to do besides mongering, or alternatively mongering 24/7 if that is what you wish.
Good luck and keep us posted on your adventures.
-B-
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[QUOTE=Hotman 666]Coconut Bar (Best value for money in Pattaya!)
There have been many posts over the years each promoting a particular type of venue for finding a "playmate" in Pattaya.
Some mongers like the Go – Go's. Others prefer the massage parlours or Bar Beers. Discos are favoured by some. The list of possible types of venue where you can find P4P company is endless.
Although I would not argue that each of these venues has its own benefits and merits I believe there is a good case for voting "Coconut Bar" as the best overall value for money in the whole of Pattaya.
For those that do not know, "Coconut Bar" is the name that many Thai girls use for the area of Beach Road. Stretching from Walking street in the South to Soi 1 in the north of Pattata, a distance of around 2. 5 / 3. 0 miles.
Over the years, in response to my question "Where you work? " many Thai girls have told me "I work Coconut Bar! "
I can't remember the first time I heard this answer but I know that it had to be explained to me that, because the beach side of this road is lined with Palm Trees someone had nicknamed it "Coconut Bar. " The longest bar (and the most girls) in the whole of Pattaya!
From late morning to 4. 00 or 5. 00 am the next day a wide range of companions can be found here.
OK, quality varies and I have to admit that there can be some real horrors here who should have retired years (or maybe DECADES) ago but there are also some real stunners!
Prices generally average around 500 Baht for short time and many girls are pleased to stay as long as you want, happy to be in your cool A. C. Room with some company and out of the heat.
For me, this is my preferred hunting ground when I am looking for a little afternoon fun. A stroll along Beach Road. Will usually come up with a playmate for me. Some of the girls are from Go. Go's or Bar Beers and are there for some extra money before starting the main job. Some are shop / restaurant workers working the late shift and for some this seems to be the only job and are there virtually 24/7.
Weekends can be rather good, especially towards the end of the month, with many girls catching a bus from the surrounding area to have a little fun in Pattata (and perhaps go back with a little money in their pocket.) and supplement the gap between end of month and end of money!
I believe that many of the girls here are "freelance" or "Part-timers" and they are not so hardened as many of their sisters found in the main P4P venues and offer rather more of a GFE than may be found elsewhere.
One example, from last week. Walking along Beech Road found a sweet young lady sitting on her own. I sat down with her and started to talk. Over the course of my "Job interview" I found out that,
She was 19 years old.
Chinese / Thai (Typical Chinese looking face, with white skin.)
No babies (but still a little bit of "Puppy Fat. "
First trip to Pattaya and had been there just 3 weeks.
Spoke quite reasonable English.
Rather sweet looking.
I usually prefer them a little older, with a bit of experience, but as this one seemed so cute I agreed that I would pay her minimum 400 Baht plus a performance based tip IF she was good.
So, off we go to my room after stopping to buy some drinks for us.
I do not need to go into a full account of the next 3 hours but when a playmate puts your finger into her mouth and then requests you to "put it up her arse" then it is probably a sign that the session may well be an interesting one! Another good sign is when she looks at you with those innocent eyes and asks, "Will you come in my mouth, PLEEEEESE! "
Well, how could any man refuse such a polite request?
Result, probably one of the BEST sessions that I have had in Pattaya for some years, and YES she got her performance bonus. I even repeated with her one week later. Equally as good if not better.
OK, I can not claim that EVERY session with a "Coconut Bar" girl will be perfect, life is not like that, but the chance to talk to the girl, for as long as you want, to see if she meets YOUR job spec puts YOU in the driving seat!
I have NEVER had any problem with any girl that I found here, being dishonest or trying to steal from me.
As always, YMMV but with a huge amount of choice, time to chat before deciding, and with YOU in control of the situation then I still maintain that "Coconut Bar" is the best overall value for money in the whole of Pattaya.
My lords, and fellow Mongers, I rest my case. Go try!
Hotman.[/QUOTE]Very similar post to stickmans column this week.
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I started "patrolling" the Beach Road almost 30 years ago, and have been with hundreds of girls from there, some for just 100bt!
In all that time I have never heard anyone, girl or punter, refer to it as the "Coconut Bar". First time was on Sunday in the Stickman column! Pure fiction from both Stickman and Hotman 666 I believe although I do not deny it is the best value in Pattaya.
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Ok, you mongers have convinced me. I have just finished wrangling 16 consecutive days off on 7 days vacation time around Thanksgiving. I'm getting my passport on Saturday and then I've got my flight picked out on Delta through Seattle to BKK and will purchase when passport is in hand.
I have done most of my hobbying in LV in the past (mostly w/Asian girls), but when I added it all up, Pattaya looks to be a much better deal. I'm about 1/3 of the way through the PTT forum posts and I've picked up some great advice on where to stay and where to look. I'll probably be a basket case the next three months just in anticipation. Thanks for sharing your experiences here.
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]I started "patrolling" the Beach Road almost 30 years ago...In all that time I have never heard anyone, girl or punter, refer to it as the "Coconut Bar"...Pure fiction from both Stickman and Hotman 666 I believe[/QUOTE]No, not pure fiction.
Sometime in early June, the gogo bar Baccara had a large meeting for all its employees. I think they have such meetings every so often as a way to ensure quality control. At that meeting, the mama san scolded girls for bad behaviour, and told them that such bad behaviour would not be tolerated. Such bad behavior included things like letting a customer put his fingers in the girls pussy while still in the club, the girl bar fining herself and then meeting her falang boyfriend outside the club (thereby avoiding the obligatory drink + lady drink), etc.
The consequences for such bad behavior? Here I quote from the gogo girl who told me this: "Mama san say if you want to do like dat, you go work at Coconut Bar.'
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]...The consequences for such bad behavior? Here I quote from the gogo girl who told me this: "Mama san say if you want to do like dat, you go work at Coconut Bar.'[/QUOTE]
Those Pattaya Go-Go bar Mamasan's could ruin a wet dream, couldn't they? :)
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Those Pattaya Go-Go bar Mamasan's could ruin a wet dream, couldn't they? :)[/QUOTE]
I could use a wet dream? Is there a Mamasan at " Coconut Bar?"
LBM
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Coconut Bar!
[QUOTE=Dhound]Very similar post to stickmans column this week.[/QUOTE]
I had not read Stickman this week until I saw it referred to by Dhound. What a coincidence!
Actually, at around the time it was posted on Sunday I was enjoying my 2nd (and, unfortunately, final) session with the young Chinese / Thai girl before I flew back home.
I don’t remember the first time I heard Beach Rd. referred to as “Coconut Bar” but it was certainly several years ago. I have even heard girls say “My office, Coconut Bar opposite Mike Mall or by Soi 8 or wherever.” so the name seems to be well known to many of the girls not just us Farrangs! Just try asking a few.
Anyway, whatever we call it I believe that it still represents the BEST value for money in Pattaya.
Hotman
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]I started "patrolling" the Beach Road almost 30 years ago, and have been with hundreds of girls from there, some for just 100bt!
In all that time I have never heard anyone, girl or punter, refer to it as the "Coconut Bar". First time was on Sunday in the Stickman column! Pure fiction from both Stickman and Hotman 666 I believe although I do not deny it is the best value in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
I've never heard this phrase either, but I never speak English with the girls. They always say "Tam ngan tee talea" (work at the sea) or "tam ngan tee chai hat" (work at the beach).
Maybe it's a new phrase. I kinda like it! Sounds like something Thai girls would have fun saying.
BTW, where is the stickman link?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]BTW, where is the stickman link?[/QUOTE]
You can find all weekly columns here:
[url]http://www.stickmanweekly.com/index.html[/url]
and the Coconut Bar one here:
[url]http://www.stickmanweekly.com/StickmanBangkokWeeklyColumn2010/Coconut-Bar-Pattaya.htm[/url]
Having read it with interest I would say that while it is similar in subject to Hotman's post, the details and everything else about it is different. I think what we have here is a case of coincidental confluence.
AM
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've never heard this phrase either, but I never speak English with the girls. They always say "Tam ngan tee talea" (work at the sea) or "tam ngan tee chai hat" (work at the beach).
Maybe it's a new phrase. I kinda like it! Sounds like something Thai girls would have fun saying.
BTW, where is the stickman link?[/QUOTE]
If a girl asks what you do for work, you should respond with this! Either they'll think it's funny or be pissed. Let us know how it goes.
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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Having read it with interest I would say that while it is similar in subject to Hotman's post, the details and everything else about it is different. I think what we have here is a case of coincidental confluence.
AM[/QUOTE]You said it better than I could, "coincidental confluence". I was not saying one was a copy of the other and I enjoyed reading both.
Cheers
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Coconut Bar girl.
Several members have sent PM’s to me asking for details of the young Chinese / Thai girl I found at “Coconut Bar.”
Although I enjoyed two great sessions with her over one week I have not kept her contact details! Why??
Well, in my opinion, when you find a young, fresh and enthusiastic provider, make the most of it because within a very short time she will become a hardened professional!
Much better (at least for me) to start again each trip with the “new stock.”
I have had several experiences over the years with young, fresh, innocent, new girls and to try to repeat some months later only leads to disappointment.
Last year I took a “Pattaya Virgin” from one of the Bar Beers just off 2nd Rd, Mama san (who I knew well from previous visits) told me that she had only arrived in Pattaya the previous day and had never been with a Farrang before! She was 19 years old, very shy, virtually no English and absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!
Mama San was happy for her to go with me for her first Pattaya experience as I am an older farrang and (as Mama San told the girl) Jai Dee Mak Maa!
Back at my hotel the girl was, understandably very quiet to start with but after she got over the initial shyness was an absolute pleasure to be with and we had three long, and enjoyable, sessions overnight.
When, in the morning, she had to phone her friend to pick her up from the hotel (as she had no idea how to get back to her room) her newness to Pattaya was confirmed to me.
I went to the same Bar Beer around 3 months later. Yes “my” girl was there but what a change! Her freshness and innocence was gone and she was “working the bar” like a true professional. In the short time I was there she must have had lady drinks from at least 4 punters and had now learned to maximise her undoubted assets. Mama San told me that she was usually the first to get bar fined and that she had, at least, one customer every night!
I did not take her that night and, although I am sure that her customers were perfectly happy with her service it would have been impossible, for me at least, to recreate the pleasure of that, first encounter, with her.
So, sorry I can not give any contact details but, in my opinion there is always a true “diamond” out there somewhere. Just keep searching. After all, that is part of the fun!!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
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[QUOTE=Hotman 666]
Well, in my opinion, when you find a young, fresh and enthusiastic provider, make the most of it because within a very short time she will become a hardened professional!
Much better (at least for me) to start again each trip with the “new stock.”
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Very true!
All these girls have shelf lives that don't last very long. It's a good thing that new ones show up everyday.
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I meet a new girl, second day working and took her for a few days, it was fun teaching her how to do things the way I liked it, and she was happy to learn,
But 3 months later it was like another girl, she had learned the ways to do less "work" , had made friends with some of the other girls and learned all of their bad habits , I quess I knew this was going to happen, I just hoped not so fast,
And yes there are new ones everyday, but they are not as easy to find as they were years ago, Maybe I need to hang out at the long distance bus stations for the new ones :)
But the hunt is often the best part......
BK
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[QUOTE=Hotman 666]Well, in my opinion, when you find a young, fresh and enthusiastic provider, make the most of it because within a very short time she will become a hardened professional![/QUOTE]
This is very true, and I've enjoyed the new ones and later been disappointed as they tarnish, but invariably my favorite providers are not new fresh enthusastic ones, but those rare long-termers who are still great fun in bed.
In my experience girls who have been in the business for years and are still unaccountably horny and enthusiastic (at least apparently), are the most amazing ones. I do know a few like that, and they're very rare and very fun, and better even than a fresh one.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]In my experience girls who have been in the business for years and are still unaccountably horny and enthusiastic (at least apparently), are the most amazing ones.[/QUOTE]They're wonderful, aren't they? I've known a few over the years and one of them described it like this: 'I just love sex and this job gives me plenty of it.'
The best thing about them is that I guess a lot of guys just pound away, so they respond really well to a long slow sensual shag. Professional sex at its best.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]I've enjoyed the new ones and later been disappointed as they tarnish, but invariably my favorite providers are not new fresh enthusastic ones, but those rare long-termers who are still great fun in bed..[/QUOTE]
Opebo,
You raise a good point.
Although repeating some weeks / months later with a “fresh, young and new” provider usually, in my opinion, leads to disappointment I also have a few tried and trusted regular “professional” providers whose service has remained excellent, or perhaps even improved, over the years.
Fresh and unspoiled or experienced long-termers????
Hmmmmm.
Decisions, decisions, always decisions!!!
Enjoy!
Hotman.
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Hi all,
I just posted my final report from this summer's trip to LOS in the Chiang Mai section. I think it may be of interest to colleagues who have read my posts in this section.
Stay horny my friends,
Uncle V
PS: Now back in the US and assiduously following the advice in my tag line LOL
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[QUOTE=Hotman 666]I still maintain that “Coconut Bar” is the best overall value for money in the whole of Pattaya.
Hotman.[/QUOTE]Overall, good report and it does bring back alot of memories.
The overall quality of beach Rd is down compare to some of the gogo ladies but advantage is NO BF and don't have to buy her LD. It's strictly: Wam, Bam and thank you Mamam.
Btw, talk about horrors, there is still this hideous woman about 40y/o (if you can "it" that) I remember from last year that refused to go away as I said no, kept grapping my arm with her hideous hands and won't let go. Man, I still have nightmares as I can't forget her face. Can't describe it as it was something out of a horror movie in 3-D. So not all memories of Beach Rd are good. Sorry, just wanted to share.
FZ
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Soi Buakow
[QUOTE=Kumbu]Umm, I'll try. Sorry, not for lack of want, but I just don't remember many names. I'll show you what I mean:
- A hotel on second road, past South Pattaya Road (I think this is technically called Pratamnak Road.). It isn't the Erawan hotel, but nearby, a little closer to S. P. Road, and on the same side as Erawan hotel. Had noodles, rice, Tom Yum, all no good.
- The various Arab restaurants across the street from there, all mediocre at best.
- The Wave in the Marriott building. Terrible food, way overpriced. I tried the Thai booth, the Indian booth, and that's all I could handle.
- Some place on soi 2, they had free wifi so I stopped in and tried some pad siu. Terrible.
- Coffee Club. This place is not all that bad. A little expensive and snooty, but not terrible. The best thing I have had in there was the cashew chicken. Their breakfast eggs and stuff are not terribly good, mostly because of the bread they have. They only have white bread, but if you request it, they will give you something they call Turkish bread, which is basically thick white bread. Their coffee is ok.
- breakfast at various places like Lek Hotel, that cheap hotel on the corner of soi Diana and 2nd road (the one that advertises 600B rooms? Forget the name).
- I ate at that outdoors place opposite soi Diana on 2nd Road (on the beach side) once with a girl. She ordered, and the fish she got was great, the curry I got was lousy.
- That place on Walking street, next to soi 16, showcasing seafood and stuff. They have a guy who walks around in a cowboy outfit. They have an indoor a/c area, which is why I ate there. The seafood stuff was not bad, other things were not terribly good. Overpriced, IMHO. Wanted to try the French place just down the street from there, but it was a sweltering night and I needed the a/c.
- Some German restaurant on 2nd Road past soi Diana. Sorry, can't remember the name.
- That Italian coffee/gelato joint on soi Buakhao. Their coffee is pretty good, but I found their food insipid and overly cheesy. And expensive too.
- The outdoors restaurant right on the corner of soi Diana and 2nd Road (non-beach side). This place is ok. Decent prices. The noodles are not to rave about, but you could do worse.
- The restaurant inside the supermarket in that complex right there. It's next to the California Wow. This restaurant is not too bad. It has a/c, so that makes up for a lot. + it's open 24 hours.
- That place next to Marine disco. The outdoor food place. The fish here was actually pretty good, but I can't eat a whole fish by myself. Ever. But it was damned tasty. Other stuff was downright wretched.
- Once, in desperation, I ate at Mr Sandwich. I had a chicken shawarma. Tttttterrible.
- food court at Central Festival. Not all that bad, actually.
- That pub on soi Buakhao, with the green sign. The Thingy and Booby? What's it's name? Turn left from soi Diana onto soi Buakhao, it's on your right hand side, before you get to the Italian coffee/gelato place. I ate there once with a girl, and she sat next to me. All I remember about that place is her silky inner thigh in the palm of my hand. That and the 90 minute erection I had.
Umm, that's all I can remember for now. I like the suggestions people are posting. I'm keeping a list and I will be sure to visit them when I return.
So that's Patts. As for. Bangers. Did you say? Nice. I'll post that in the, ehem, Bangers section.[/QUOTE] I think its the butchers arms you mean?
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Pattaya Trip
Day 1 :- Found a bus just as i stepped out of the BKK Airport , 200 Baht included the fair and Hotel drop off . Journey took just about 2 hrs from the Airport to the Hotel. Checked into Penthouse Hotel and thanks to the forum got a upgrade to the Patpong 2 Room . Nice clean hotel with practically all amenities you need on a mongering trip. My room had a small Balcony as well , being a smoker thats always a plus for me.
Called up an old friend and she was at the door before i could take a dump. No stunner but its always nice to get ur back scrubbed and a nice massage after a long journey. Was fairly natural to get horny so just about 3 hrs into pattaya i was finished with the first round of sex.
Day passed fairly quick and as the lights came on , I found myself on the walking street trying to get a look into every GOGO for that prefect girl to take back. Eventually found a stunner at Happy GO GO , paid the barfine and got her back to the room. What followed was awesome....at one point i was stupid enough to take her out in the balcony and we tried some doggie there...was about 3 am but damn those were memorable 10 mins .
She left early in the morning about 6-7 , did'nt have the energy for a morning fuck so did'nt mind. Gave her 1500 B and she seemed pleased with it.
Day 2 to follow...
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[QUOTE=Travelforfun]Eventually found a stunner at Happy GO GO , paid the barfine and got her back to the room. What followed was awesome....at one point i was stupid enough to take her out in the balcony and we tried some doggie there...was about 3 am but damn those were memorable 10 mins .
She left early in the morning about 6-7 , did'nt have the energy for a morning fuck so did'nt mind. Gave her 1500 B and she seemed pleased with it.
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Good to hear you got a good price on that. She didn't state her price before you barfined her?
I got two girls last week in two different walking street gogos for 1000ST each.
Bargain hard gents!
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[QUOTE=Travelforfun]Day 1 :- Found a bus just as i stepped out of the BKK Airport , 200 Baht included the fair and Hotel drop off . Journey took just about 2 hrs from the Airport to the Hotel. [/QUOTE]
sounds like a great deal. Any more details? Would save me almost 1000BHT next time.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]sounds like a great deal. Any more details?[/QUOTE]
[url]www.belltravelservice.com[/url]
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]sounds like a great deal. Any more details? Would save me almost 1000BHT next time.[/QUOTE]
Unless you are riding THAI or EVA (maybe Singapore, too) from the US you get in WAY too late for the bus (about midnite or so and the last bus goes at 7PM local or so).
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]Unless you are riding THAI or EVA (maybe Singapore, too) from the US you get in WAY too late for the bus (about midnite or so and the last bus goes at 7PM local or so).[/QUOTE]That's certainly not true. You just mentioned two and my China Airlines flight arrives at 11:30 in October and my Cathay Pacific flight (both from San Francisco...ans I think my Nortwest Flight ( now Delya) arrived well before 7...). In fact I don't think I've ever taken a flight that's landed late.
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[QUOTE=Hotman 666]
I went to the same Bar Beer around 3 months later. I did not take her that night . . . . . . . service it would have been impossible, for me at least, to recreate the pleasure of that, first encounter, with her.[/QUOTE]
I did not find this to be the case with a newby from NEP. I was her first or second customer the first day she arrived from SeSaKet. Over the next 2 years I see her, and her energy and passion are remarkable. No burnout and still seems to be enjoying herself. I once read that a tg gets attached somehow with her first few customers. I think it's true because it's all new at first and they haven't built up their defences yet.
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there are varous connecting points - pretty much Incheon (Korea), Narita or Osaka (Japan) Taipei (Taiwan) Hong Kong and Singapore for US INBOUND connections. Thai goes direct from LA; the Korean airlines stop in Incheon'. Delta and UAL both go thru Narinta and on Star alliance routes, TG has a better entry out of Narinta (arrfives at 9:45 PM or 1045 once DST goes "off" in Japan and the USA). China and Eva both connect in Taipei and ARRIVE BKK about 11ish AM. I could go look up Cathay (I've never been on them)
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]sounds like a great deal. Any more details? Would save me almost 1000BHT next time.[/QUOTE]
After Immigration go down to the lower ground level. I dont exactly remember the gate but its on the far left if your back is towards the airport when you step out. You'll come across an area with lots of travel desks just near the gate, can get a ticket there and if the bus is ready to leave they will guide you to just hop on. Less than 90 Min to Pattaya Bus Station.
Tickets cost only 124 Baht actually but if you ask for a hotel drop they'll offer you 200 Baht all inclusive, i think it was a fair price.
I believe the bus leaves every hr from 7 am to 7 pm and same case if you leave from pattaya to airport or BKK.The BKK bus station is just 5 BTS station away from Nana and there is BTS station right near the bus station, took me 25 B and a 10 min to get to Nana Station from there.
The journey back from Pattaya to BKK takes a little more time i guess , just about 2.5 hrs as the bus takes a longer route to get to the station rather than entering the city from the nearest entry point.
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Bargain
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Good to hear you got a good price on that. She didn't state her price before you barfined her?
I got two girls last week in two different walking street gogos for 1000ST each.
Bargain hard gents![/QUOTE]
Over the 3 nights stay in Pattaya and 2 nights in BKK i brought in a GOGO girl each day. Im not a fan of the freelancer's bcoz i always belive they are on the streets for a reason which i dont wanna know.
Also the idea of standing on the road and trying to bargain does'nt work with me as i always need a little spark before i can take the girl back to my room. A little time at the gogo or beerbar with eye contact and smiles always works for me , sure it costs a lot more than just strolling up and down walking street or beach road and picking up a girl but thts just not me.
About the prices , no did'nt ask her about the price when i barfined her , sometimes i just go with the flow. Actually never asked any of the girls this whole trip and surprisingly never had a problem either.
ST 1000 is pretty much the going price , when you pay a barfine of 600 B , you cant be expecting to pay less than that to the girl.Hate to sleep alone and rush things so ST is not my thing , but all the girls who go for ST have always quoted 1000-1500 B when asked.
However LT always varies , I paid 1500 twice, 2000 B on the last night , girl from Nana plaza gogo charged 3000 but then she was a peach and i just had to have her and the last one from same place took 2500 and stayed till 4 pm with me.
However i make 2 things very clear before the LT
a) I want you till 9 am , if you stays on after no problem , but hate to get up at 6 am and trying to bang the chick to maximize my investment.
b) That i need a massage when we get to room , some think im just joking but for me its almost a ritual to get one before i get into action
Some of-course like to shower alone but most times i would just step in the shower and tell them to give me a good back scrub as well.
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The bus station
Has anybody sat at the bus station and picked up girls that are just coming in?
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Beach Road infested with horrible market
I have a question to all the Beach Road fans - is this horrible market for worthless consumer goods that has taken over our precious BR here forever? When I was last here a month ago the place was wrecked and now its still the same! Pretty effective way to interfere with our fun - sell a bunch of shirts and snacks and draw crowds of families and other undesirables.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]I have a question to all the Beach Road fans - is this horrible market for worthless consumer goods that has taken over our precious BR here forever? When I was last here a month ago the place was wrecked and now its still the same! Pretty effective way to interfere with our fun - sell a bunch of shirts and snacks and draw crowds of families and other undesirables.[/QUOTE]
I'm afraid it's going to be that way from time to time but thankfully not all the time in the forseeable future. The authorities want Pattaya to be a family destination. Not to worry. The girls will simply move southward to Walking Street where the crowds and customers are found.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]I'm afraid it's going to be that way from time to time but thankfully not all the time in the forseeable future. The authorities want Pattaya to be a family destination. Not to worry. The girls will simply move southward to Walking Street where the crowds and customers are found.[/QUOTE]I may get howls of incredulous laughter for saying this, but IMHO Pattaya is pretty much a family-friendly place already. Most mongers will disagree, as they look at the place through a pink-bits lens. I had plans for a very viable (and fun) business there, which would have meant basing my family there for substantial parts of the year. Unfortunately my wife didn't like the idea. Not sure why. :D
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[QUOTE=Piper1]I may get howls of incredulous laughter for saying this, but IMHO Pattaya is pretty much a family-friendly place already. [/QUOTE]
I kinda agree with you on this. Although not 100% family oriented yet, but certainly on it's way there. I see so many more couples and families in Pattaya now days. Years ago when you saw the same they stuck out like sore thumbs. Now they are common place. Today's Pattaya feels very much like Patong beach in Phuket.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]I think this says more about Amjeck than it does about working girls in Thailand. Let's refer to this as [b][u]The Amjeck Doctrine.[/u][/b]
Because you see the intellectual laziness in this.
As I groaned under the weight of the bar, doing my extra set of squats in the gym last night, I realized I was wrong. When I first read Amjeck's statements, and Mouse's response, and all that followed, I had thought Amjeck was a hypocrite. On the one hand, he makes grand claims about getting your head out of your ass and seeing the girls for what they are (The Amjeck Doctrine, quotes above). But at the same time, the statements he makes are clearly not in fact true. That is, this Amjeck Doctrine is so obviously provocative and incendiary that he can't possibly believe it. And any cursory analysis of the situation by even a half-wit would reveal that the view espoused by Amjeck is fantasy. (To be clear: I am not calling Amjeck a half-wit, please read on). Hence my initial conclusion that he is a hypocrite: he claims to be the purveyor of truth, whereas he in fact is the ultimate consumer of fantasy. The only difference is that his fantasy is a sick, cruel version that few of us would agree with.
But then I realized I am giving Amjeck (and his ilk) too much credit. The Amjeck Doctrine is a simple one: the girls are all prostitutes, and therefore should be considered as lesser human beings - as some category he calls 'hookers'. Accepting such a view is easy: it's like sitting on the couch eating potato chips. It is far easier to think of them all as prostitutes, not worthy of any emotion, not worthy of a second thought, noth worthy of distinction. It is *easier* to do this than to see who they really are. But this is sheer self-delusion. And it is delusion of a particular kind, one that is very common amongst us humans. Consider two American statesmen:
Joseph McCarthy: "Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between communistic atheism and Christianity."
George Bush: "See, we love, we love freedom. That's what they didn't understand. They hate things; we love things. They act out of hatred; we don't seek revenge, we seek justice out of love."
A simplified view of the world: us versus them. We are good; they are putrid prostitutes (or evil-doers, or communists, or what have you). It's easy for the average person to understand since it does not require that you exert any effort in talking with them, or treating them fairly, or trying to see the world from their perspective. And it makes treating them badly a morally acceptable thing to do. We can bomb innocent Muslims, but that's ok since they are all cave-dwelling evil-doers. And we can treat the girls poorly, but that's ok because they're all nothing more than lowly prostitutes. Mmm, those potato chips are good...
This all harkens back to a discussion started by Angus Magee a few weeks ago: fantasy versus reality. My fantasty when I am with a working girl (in Thailand or elsewhere) is that I am connecting with her, that we are going to share something special. I know this is fanstasy, but damn it, that's what I want. Mouse refers to this as the GFE, and he is right in pointing out that such an experience is diametrically opposed to the view that these girls are subhuman. But that's the thing: the Amjeck Doctrine is equally a fantasy, and it is the opposite one from mine.
Why would Amjeck engage in such fantasy? I mean, it is entirely his prerogative, but it has puzzled me for the last few months. In thinking about this, I recognized a recurring theme in his posts: Us versus Them. It is WAR! 'You win everytime'. Win what? War with whom? Why is this a battle? Not sure where I am going here, but I find it interesting.
So...if you are such a person, and if you want to insert your penis into as many orifices as you can with the minimal monetary expenditure possible and no lasting attachment to the girls who possess said orifices, and then at the end you can say that you WON...then I would recommend fully embracing the Amjeck Doctrine. You should keep this attitude if you want to treat the girls poorly and with impunity. That's the only way your conscience will allow it.There is nothing wrong with it once you recognize it as the fantasy that it is. His fantasy is no worse than mine - you just need to know who you are and which fantasy suits you best. As just about every Thai lady has ever said to me at some point or the other: Up to you.
But if his view is fantasy, and my view is fantasy, then what is reality? Angus Magee has some interesting thoughts on this, and I can't come close to his wisdom, but I'd like to make just one point. I would say that the reality is that nothing in the natural world is as simple as that. If you honestly want to *understand* the situation (and you may not in fact want this), such black-white dichotomies need to go. And that requires you getting your fat ass off the couch and hitting the gym (in the metaphorical sense). Not all of us can or even want to do this, and so there will always be lazy couch potatoes, no matter what any of us say or do.
Finally, although this post is written as if it is all about Amjeck, it isn't really. It's pretty clear that there is a spectrum of mongers. Amjeck happens to represent one end of that spectrum, and he is courageous for putting his ideas out there. I don't think there is anything wrong with that end of the spectrum, provided you don't end up hurting the working girls in any way that is not part of the norm. I don't think I will ever visit that end of the spectrum, but I am sure there are some of you who will.
This was pretty self righteous, I know - bring on the flames. Mouse, you see, you're not the only one who can be baited.[/QUOTE]Rightly said, Kumbu. I can only speak in general terms about mongering as I've never been to Thailand. But what we get from the hobby differs each to his own needs. I can see the side that says "don't give a penny more than the going rate, and keep your emotions in the back pocket". Its easier said than done for a lot of us.
Some have more resources, and so a small tip to their mind is an outrageous slight against all hobbyists in the minds of others. Some don't need an emotional attachment, however fleeting, to be completely satisfied. Others, myself included, need to feel some slight bond with the girl, (fantasy or not) in order to have a satisfying experience.
I happen to believe that type of bonding creates a more satisfying physical experience. I have had plenty of experiences with girls where I could tell there was absolutely no connection emotionally, and it was always a less than fulfilling transaction. I think Uncle V. Said something about it in one of his posts, even if it isn't real, if the girl can delude you successfully into thinking she's really into you, it's worth the illusion to some of us.
I have a girl I have seen regularly on my trips to LV, a cute little 24 yr. Old thai (she says). She's really good at giving me the feeling that we have some type of friendship, even though I pay her good money for her time. She'll text me occasionally and talks to me on the phone every once in a while. I'm under no illusion that a girl less than half my age is interested in me on a long term basis, but I keep going back to see her just for the feeling that she is a friend and it makes my time with her much more enjoyable.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]Yes indeed!
Time perspective is everything. I am just here on so short a time and trying to squeeze all these experiences in. If I lived here I probably would make the discos part of my regular routine, maybe once or twice a month.
I mean, WTF?? Going out to pick up at the discos after a debauched afternoon at DD (not to mention two morning romps with the girl form the night before).
I must be losing my damn mind!!! LOL. I thought you were supposed to get wiser with age.[/QUOTE]You guys are scaring me! What's this fcuk fatigue? I hope I don't catch it when I visit this fall.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]I'm afraid it's going to be that way from time to time but thankfully not all the time in the forseeable future. The authorities want Pattaya to be a family destination. Not to worry. The girls will simply move southward to Walking Street where the crowds and customers are found.[/QUOTE]
Oddly enough I have never taken a freelancer from Walking Street in all my years of coming to Pattaya. In the first place I see almost none there on the street, and in the second place none of them have ever been my type - maybe half are ladyboys and half are overpriced bad-service types. I've never seen a beach road girl standing on Walking Street either. Where do you find freelancers on Walking Street? In nightclubs?
Anyway, you're all quite right about the family thing. It fills me with disgust - the whole world is geared to those banal creatures, and yet they've had to be brought in to infest our one little escape-hatch.
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[QUOTE=Piper1]I may get howls of incredulous laughter for saying this, but IMHO Pattaya is pretty much a family-friendly place already. Most mongers will disagree, as they look at the place through a pink-bits lens. I had plans for a very viable (and fun) business there, which would have meant basing my family there for substantial parts of the year. Unfortunately my wife didn't like the idea. Not sure why.[/QUOTE] Saw some honeymooners from India last time I was in Pattaya. Was fun watching the husbands try to sneak a peak at the freelancers.
Pretty sure they wouldn't have got anything that night (and for a few more nights) had they been caught ogling the local wares.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Oddly enough I have never taken a freelancer from Walking Street in all my years of coming to Pattaya. In the first place I see almost none there on the street, and in the second place none of them have ever been my type - maybe half are ladyboys and half are overpriced bad-service types. I've never seen a beach road girl standing on Walking Street either. Where do you find freelancers on Walking Street? In nightclubs?...[/QUOTE]
I’ve found a few real gems on Walking Street and am seeing a lot more of them lately, especially during the disgusting festivals which have taken over their Beach Road turf.
Next time you visit Pattaya and are faced with the family circus along the beach, take a very slow stroll down WS from the Beach Road entrance. Or you can just stand in one spot looking around. Amongst the crowds you will begin to notice many girls of all ages, shapes and sizes who seem to be just walking up and down or standing around, either alone, or in small groups. They are freelancers looking for customers. Just smile and make eye contact with a girl you fancy and she will usually respond with a smile to let you know that she’s available and ready to deal.
One good thing about it is that Walking Street is well lit at night – much more so than Beach Road – which allows you a good look at the lady’s attributes.
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[QUOTE=Hobbyhores]You guys are scaring me! What's this fcuk fatigue? I hope I don't catch it when I visit this fall.[/QUOTE]
You will understand after you've had a hot morning sex with the girl form the night before, an afternoon menage a trois that lasts into the early evening, followed by an all-nighter with a girl you met at a disco -- all in 24 hrs.
Just remember to take all your vitamins, A through V and you'll be fine. LOL
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[QUOTE=Opebo] I've never seen a beach road girl standing on Walking Street either. [/QUOTE]
I've seen lots on walking street. They tend to go down there later at night. It's funny because these same girls who take 500 ST on the beach try to get 1000ST when they are on walking.
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Funny, I would think that unless one was a regular who walk up and down Beach Road and had conversation and partaken on a regular basis would be able to recognize a Beach Road girl walking on Walking Street.
There are so many how would one be able to say for certainty whether they have venture into WS or not. I can see if one was attracted to you at one time and you notice her the next time on WS? Now I have seen some really ugly, fat, you name it, Russians? that walk to Beach Rd. and back and I can remember them because I thinking no way even in my dreams or nightmare.
What do you do if you see a Beach girl who charges 500 baht on the beach and later you see her on WS, charging 1000 baht. Do you wait until she goes back to the Beach Rd. side and then make your lower offer again?
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]...What do you do if you see a Beach girl who charges 500 baht on the beach and later you see her on WS, charging 1000 baht. Do you wait until she goes back to the Beach Rd. side and then make your lower offer again? ... LBM[/QUOTE]
No ... You just tell her with a smile that you will give her 500 baht.
The key to identifying them as working girls is sustained eye contact and a smile which invites approach.
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What do you do if you see a Beach girl who charges 500 baht on the beach and later you see her on WS, charging 1000 baht. Do you wait until she goes back to the Beach Rd. side and then make your lower offer again?
LBM[/QUOTE]
What is the problem to offer the same as we used before ?
But needless to wait for her returning back, there r plenty to hv on the same rate. But whenever we meet the girl again, I don't think we will raise the priice.
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Will be visiting Pattaya next month, what do you mean by: " faced with the family circus along the beach."
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]I’ve found a few real gems on Walking Street and am seeing a lot more of them lately, especially during the disgusting festivals which have taken over their Beach Road turf.
Next time you visit Pattaya and are faced with the family circus along the beach, take a very slow stroll down WS from the Beach Road entrance. Or you can just stand in one spot looking around. Amongst the crowds you will begin to notice many girls of all ages, shapes and sizes who seem to be just walking up and down or standing around, either alone, or in small groups. They are freelancers looking for customers. Just smile and make eye contact with a girl you fancy and she will usually respond with a smile to let you know that she’s available and ready to deal.
One good thing about it is that Walking Street is well lit at night – much more so than Beach Road – which allows you a good look at the lady’s attributes.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sandy Men]Saw some honeymooners from India last time I was in Pattaya. Was fun watching the husbands try to sneak a peak at the freelancers.
Pretty sure they wouldn't have got anything that night (and for a few more nights) had they been caught ogling the local wares.[/QUOTE]
If you check out the many videos on You Tube of Walking Street, you see many "normal" couples walking about. Obviously, the area has some attraction for others, besides just the sex thing. But, that's not why I'm going :)
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]I’ve found a few real gems on Walking Street and am seeing a lot more of them lately, especially during the disgusting festivals which have taken over their Beach Road turf.
Next time you visit Pattaya and are faced with the family circus along the beach, take a very slow stroll down WS from the Beach Road entrance. Or you can just stand in one spot looking around. Amongst the crowds you will begin to notice many girls of all ages, shapes and sizes who seem to be just walking up and down or standing around, either alone, or in small groups. They are freelancers looking for customers. Just smile and make eye contact with a girl you fancy and she will usually respond with a smile to let you know that she’s available and ready to deal.
One good thing about it is that Walking Street is well lit at night – much more so than Beach Road – which allows you a good look at the lady’s attributes.[/QUOTE]
How is the beach area for finding afternoon talent?
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Family circus
[QUOTE=Henryv]Will be visiting Pattaya next month, what do you mean by: " faced with the family circus along the beach."
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
One has to remember that Pattaya is not JUST a mongering destination. Plenty of families typically from Eastern Europe or Asia come there too for a cheap seaside holiday.
During the day and until around 10pm on the beach rd and maybe 12 pm on Walking Street there is a strange mix of "normal" tourists and mongers. Some of the "normal" tourists seem to either regard the mongers and their antics as very much part of the show ( esp the Chinese group tours) others give or at least are imagined to give skowls of disapproval when they see fat old men hit on what they regard as exploited young girls and boys.
As the night wears on the "normal" tourists pack up their buckets and spades and the mongers and their targets are left to their own.
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[QUOTE=Mua Tur]What is the problem to offer the same as we used before ?
But needless to wait for her returning back, there r plenty to hv on the same rate. But whenever we meet the girl again, I don't think we will raise the priice.[/QUOTE]
My remarks were meant to be on the humor side but with the remarks I wonder how many can really recognize a Beach girls who has venture into W.S as part of her route since they have brighten Beach Road, put up cameras everywhere and now due to the red shirt pass action the City officials decided to provide free tents for street vendors to sell their wares at supposely discounted prices to bring the tourist back.
In the beginning this seems great, but I noticed now the vendors prices don't really seem to be that much discounted. Typical Thai right! but back to the girls! I will say again I doubt many unless they venture to Beach Road alot and have a photographic memory can tell if a girl who is now extended her KM to WS, so unless you know for sure? if she says 1000 baht? Most of you if attracted would just say yes! Unless you stick to Daddy07, concept and say 500 Baht regardless! and if she says yes then you know?.
Don't care one way or another just was wondering? Now being a cheap charlie I would wait until she crosses the road to make sure if I was really interested in her.
LBM
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]One has to remember that Pattaya is not JUST a mongering destination. Plenty of families typically from Eastern Europe or Asia come there too for a cheap seaside holiday.
During the day and until around 10pm on the beach rd and maybe 12 pm on Walking Street there is a strange mix of "normal" tourists and mongers. Some of the "normal" tourists seem to either regard the mongers and their antics as very much part of the show ( esp the Chinese group tours) others give or at least are imagined to give skowls of disapproval when they see fat old men hit on what they regard as exploited young girls and boys.
As the night wears on the "normal" tourists pack up their buckets and spades and the mongers and their targets are left to their own.[/QUOTE]
Good description. That pretty much sums it up from my experiences there as both a 'bachelor' monger and as a family tourist.
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[QUOTE=Piper1]Good description. That pretty much sums it up from my experiences there as both a 'bachelor' monger and as a family tourist.[/QUOTE]
You brought Wildcat to Patts, and now you don't understand why she doesn't want you to open a business there?
ROFLMAO :D
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[QUOTE=1Ball]You brought Wildcat to Patts, and now you don't understand why she doesn't want you to open a business there?
ROFLMAO :D[/QUOTE]In fact, I'm banned from Thailand! She often checks my passport whenever I return from overseas travel to make sure I didn't fit in a 'lay'over. Not fair that I'm the one who is banned - she enjoyed the threesome with the hot lesbian from Soi Cowboy more than I did. :D
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Pishing is fun
[QUOTE=Opebo]Oddly enough I have never taken a freelancer from Walking Street. I've never seen a beach road girl standing on Walking Street either. Where do you find freelancers on Walking Street? In nightclubs?[/QUOTE]If you can't make out the SW's on walking street you may want to try this:
Stand by the side of the road- let it hang out. Wait for a bite.
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Shows to go ya. No doubt I should be more observant.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=GregLondon]One has to remember that Pattaya is not JUST a mongering destination. Plenty of families typically from Eastern Europe or Asia come there too for a cheap seaside holiday.
During the day and until around 10pm on the beach rd and maybe 12 pm on Walking Street there is a strange mix of "normal" tourists and mongers. Some of the "normal" tourists seem to either regard the mongers and their antics as very much part of the show ( esp the Chinese group tours) others give or at least are imagined to give skowls of disapproval when they see fat old men hit on what they regard as exploited young girls and boys.
As the night wears on the "normal" tourists pack up their buckets and spades and the mongers and their targets are left to their own.[/QUOTE]
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I am a firsttimer going to Pattaya in September. I am 40 years old and like very much younger girls aged 18-21 wiht nice teenage tits and puffy nipples. Where is best place in Pattaye to find such girls? Anyone?
regards
Ronnie
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Lol..
Umm...it will be difficult to find what you are looking for in Pattaya. Ok, Ok...
Do some googling, but in general, if you want go-gos....go to Walking Street where there are tons of go gos....there are also hundreds of beer bars throughout the city and finally, Beach Road has hundreds of girls at all hours waiting for your services.
Your problem won't be to find one but to decide which one.
Have fun
[QUOTE=Ronnie]I am a firsttimer going to Pattaya in September. I am 40 years old and like very much younger girls aged 18-21 wiht nice teenage tits and puffy nipples. Where is best place in Pattaye to find such girls? Anyone?
regards
Ronnie[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ronnie]I am a firsttimer going to Pattaya in September. I am 40 years old and like very much younger girls aged 18-21 wiht nice teenage tits and puffy nipples. Where is best place in Pattaye to find such girls? Anyone?
Ronnie[/QUOTE]In some university LOL
Just LTed a cutie, looking 20 year old or so. Turned out to be 30 when I checked her ID. What can I say. Amazing Thailand!
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WTF! No alcohol sales and most bars closed for Buddhist holiday
7-11s stopped alcohol sales, and most bars were closed this past Monday and Tuesday due to the Buddhist holiday.
WTF! I wished I would have known about it. Then I would have altered my travel plans. What other holidays do they do that? It would be nice to have a fact sheet to warn people.
Funny story: Casanovy in walking street was the only go-go bar I saw open on the main first level street. The signs were off, but naked girls were still dancing on the main stage. At 9:40 PM, all the naked girls ran off the stage to the back (never knew naked Thai girls in high heels could run that fast). A policeman walked in. They turned off the music and no dancers on stage. I was told by one of the girls to come back at 11:30 PM. About 20 minutes later, as I was about to leave, the girls in bikinis went to the stage, and they turned the music on at half level. The front door was closed, and all the door girls came inside. I stayed since it was one of the few that were opened. At 11 PM, the girls took off their clothes, and it was back to normal. But by that time, all the cute girls were gone (barfined). Oh well, you snooze you lose. No other options to pick up decent looking girls from the go-go bars. Some of the open air beer bars were open, selling cokes and club soda, but I prefer cuter girls from the go-go bars (more expensive, but you only live once).
Then I went to my hotel on Soi 13, and then walked to beach road to see what was around. Yuck! "Diamonds in the rough" LOL! Some people's scale is that a 8 or 9 is a 5 that does it for 500 baht. My scale is a true Bell curve where most of the girls are average (5s) with few 8s and above (Yes I am an engineering geek). There were couple that "weren't ugly", but I went back to my hotel with Mrs. Left and Mrs. Right.
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[QUOTE=Ronnie]I am a firsttimer going to Pattaya in September. I am 40 years old and like very much younger girls aged 18-21 wiht nice teenage tits and puffy nipples. Where is best place in Pattaye to find such girls? Anyone?
regards
Ronnie[/QUOTE]
Beach Road will have older girls. The open air beer bars will have mostly girls above 21 (some exceptions).
The best place to find girls between 18-21 will be the go-go bars. Of course some of them will have older girls (like 25 LOL!), but you will be able to examine them on stage, or you can intimately examine them after you buy them a lady's drink.
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Anyone experience the Soapie HoneyInnMassage just off Soi Baukhao? and if so do they give BBBJ?
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Anyone experience the Soapie HoneyInnMassage just off Soi Baukhao? and if so do they give BBBJ?
LBM[/QUOTE]
I walked in and saw a bunch of dogs! I've never seen quality in any soapie in Pattaya ever. Best to head to Bkk for that. Way more value for your money!
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[QUOTE=Ronnie]I am a firsttimer going to Pattaya in September. I am 40 years old and like very much younger girls aged 18-21 wiht nice teenage tits and puffy nipples. Where is best place in Pattaye to find such girls? Anyone?
regards
Ronnie[/QUOTE]
Good Luck finding a pretty one that isn't already taken. You're gonna have to search around. That age group has been in decline for the last few years.
If you find some hotties, get their phone numbers and PM me, please.
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Stand by the side of the road- let it hang out. Wait for a bite.[/QUOTE]
What the hell. I spilled my coffee all over me. Had a good laugh though. LOL
Ladyboys will be the first to bite I presume.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I walked in and saw a bunch of dogs! I've never seen quality in any soapie in Pattaya ever. Best to head to Bkk for that. Way more value for your money![/QUOTE]
The website claims it is new or improve... new everything and the girls most faces covered but the ones not don't look bad?
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]The website claims it is new or improve... new everything and the girls most faces covered but the ones not don't look bad?
LBM[/QUOTE]
It is new. There never used to be a soapie there. Kinda a weird place to put one.
Go have a look. Maybe I was there on a bad day. They did have two prices. IMO the lower priced girls were about as good looking as beach road girls. The higher price (1800, I think) were no better than a freelancer on walking.
The facilities, however, looked nice and the people working there were friendly.
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[quote=ronnie]i am a firsttimer going to pattaya in september. i am 40 years old and like very much younger girls aged 18-21 wiht nice teenage tits and puffy nipples. where is best place in pattaye to find such girls? anyone?
regards
ronnie[/quote]
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i wouldn't get to hung up in the age thing. the good thing is is that thai girls age really well. the ones in their mid 20s could easily pass for 18-21. and they are generally much better in the sack. at lest imho.
i sent out a pic of one girl i hooked up with, age 27, and a friend emailed me concerned that she was **** lol
my best girl last trip was 30 and working a gogo bar. she looked more like early 20s to these western eyes. an absolute stunner. she really turned heads when i took her to the mall.
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Last year I visited the Sabai Dee and the line up was ok, however, I belived there was one across the street from the Sabai Dee (it has large columns in the front) that had a stable of absolute stunners.
At the place across the street, I asked the manager if I could get a bbbj, he told me absolutely no, new policy.
Two years ago I visited the same place (with columns). At that time, the manager told me they leave it (bbbj) up to the girl and I could talk to my pick about it before hand. The girl came out and, to my surpise, spoke Vassar english. She would not go for it. I then asked her where she learned to speak English so well, she immediatley turned around and left. Later someone told me a lot of proffessional women, doctors, lawyers, etc., come from Bangkok on the weekends to make money.
The manager then brought out a gal (she was not yet in the fishbowl) who said she would provide the required services. My jaw dropped when I saw her, she was one of the most beautiful gals I have ever seen, and built like a brick s/house. By the way, she told me she was 33 yrs old. The service was so great I went ga-ga over this gal. I did something I rarely do, I got her cell number and tried calling her to go out to dinner (unheard of for me). She would not go.
Anyway, if anyone can remember the name of the place (large columns across from Sabai Dee) let me know.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I walked in and saw a bunch of dogs! I've never seen quality in any soapie in Pattaya ever. Best to head to Bkk for that. Way more value for your money![/QUOTE] ye
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Soapy Dogs, Scarce freshness...
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I walked in and saw a bunch of dogs! I've never seen quality in any soapie in Pattaya ever. Best to head to Bkk for that. Way more value for your money![/QUOTE]
I have to agree that I've never seen high quality in a Pattaya soapy - also service there is shockingly bad (CBJs and so forth). In Sabai Dee soapy, there are two areas for the girls - in the higher end area (2,200 I think, or maybe it was 2,000) kind of hidden away at the back, there are some fairly nice looking girls, though nothing special. All I've had have been poor service.
However I've never been to a Soapy in Bangkok so I can't compare to that. The best Soapy values I've found have been upcountry, mostly in Khon Kaen and Korat.
[QUOTE=Ronnie]I am a firsttimer going to Pattaya in September. I am 40 years old and like very much younger girls aged 18-21 wiht nice teenage tits and puffy nipples. Where is best place in Pattaye to find such girls? Anyone?[/QUOTE]
That's very, very rare in Pattaya, Ronnie, though it does exist. If you're only going for a short visit I'd say you're unlikely to find it, but if you stay a long time you'd eventually run across it once in a blue moon on the Beach Road. But if you really prefer that type you should go to Udon Thani.
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Website Address, PLEASE
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]The website claims it is new or improve... new everything and the girls most faces covered but the ones not don't look bad?
LBM[/QUOTE]
Would you mind sharing their website, please????
Thanks in advance
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Soapie with columns
[QUOTE=Henryv]Anyway, if anyone can remember the name of the place (large columns across from Sabai Dee) let me know.
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It's called Sabai Room Body Massage
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Thats it.
Both times I was there the selection was fantastic. Would like to find a a place in Bangkok with the same quality of girls.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=David 2]It's called Sabai Room Body Massage[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GreenBud]7-11s stopped alcohol sales, and most bars were closed this past Monday and Tuesday due to the Buddhist holiday.
WTF! I wished I would have known about it. Then I would have altered my travel plans. What other holidays do they do that? It would be nice to have a fact sheet to warn people.
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New Years’ Eve
The day before the Western New Year day is always marked a national holiday.
Thursday, 31 December 2009
New Year’s Day
The beginning of the western New Year is a national holiday in Thailand, one of three “new year” holidays celebrated every year.
Friday, 1 January 2010
Chinese New Year
The beginning of the Chinese lunar year is celebrated in the Chinatowns of every city throughout Thailand. Some businesses close for the day, but it is not a national holiday.
Sunday, 14 February 2010
Makha Bucha
Makha Bucha celebrates the Buddha’s first sermon in to his disciples.
Sunday, 28 February 2010
Monday, 1 March 2010 (substitution)
Chakri Day
Chakri Day commemorates the founding of the current dynasty by its first king, Rama I.
Tuesday, 6 April 2010
Songkran
Songkran is the traditional Thai New Year, generally celebrated as a water festival. Be prepared to get wet all over as revelers abound, ready to soak you as a form of celebrating this season!
Tuesday, 13 April 2010
Wednesday, 14 April 2010
Thursday, 15 April 2010
Thailand Labor Day
International Labor Day is also celebrated as a national holiday, even though there isn’t much ado about it. Some businesses may be closed.
Saturday, 1 May 2010
Monday, 1 May 2010 (substitution)
Coronation Day
Celebrates the day when the current king Rama IX was crowned in 1949.
Wednesday, 5 May 2010
Royal Ploughing Ceremony
An ancient royal rite held in Thailand to mark the traditional beginning of the rice-growing season
Sunday, 9 May 2010
Visakha Bucha / Vesak Day
The holiest Buddhist holiday celebrates the birth, enlightenment and entry into nirvana of the Buddha.
Friday, 28 May 2010
Asalha Puja Day
Commemorates the Buddha’s first sermon in the Deer Park in Benares and the founding of the Buddhist sangha.
Monday, 26 July 2010
Buddhist Lent Day (Wan Khao Phansa)
This day marks the beginning of the Buddhist ‘lent’ period, a time when monks are supposed to retreat to their temples while new life springs forth.
Tuesday, 27 July 2010
H.M. The Queen’s Birthday
Her Majesty the Queen’s birthday is a national holiday, also serving as the country’s Mothers’ Day as well.
Thursday, 12 August 2010
Chulalongkorn Memorial Day
Celebration of the death anniversary of Thailand’s one of the most revered kings, Rama V.
Saturday, 23 October 2010
Monday, 25 October 2010 (Substitude)
End of Buddhist Lent Day (Wan Awk Phansa)
This day marks the end of the Buddhist ‘lent’ period or the Rains Retreat.
Friday, 22 October 2010
Thod Kathin
Presentation of Monk’s Robes after Rains Retreat.
Saturday, 23 October 2010
Loy Kratong
While it is not marked a national holiday, it is an evening when Thais pay respect to the goddess of the waters by floating candlelit offerings on any and all waterways around the kingdom.
Saturday, 20 November 2010
H.M. The King’s Birthday
His Majesty the King’s birthday is celebrated throughout the country and also
Sunday, 5 December 2010
Monday, 6 December 2010 (Substitution)
Thai Constitution Day
Celebrates the date in 1932 when the country was granted its first constitution.
Friday, 10 December 2010
New Years’ Eve
The day before the Western New Year day is always marked a national holiday.
Friday, 31 December 2010
There is your list :)
You will find that the bars in tourist areas do not close on all holidays, but you when you get into the rural areas, they shut down tight, and all the employees go home for the holiday.
The govenment imposes some stiff fines if you do not observe the holidays.
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Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud
7-11s stopped alcohol sales, and most bars were closed this past Monday and Tuesday due to the Buddhist holiday.
WTF! I wished I would have known about it. Then I would have altered my travel plans. What other holidays do they do that? It would be nice to have a fact sheet to warn people. Quote
I feel your pain Green Bud. Recently came back from a trip to Medellin where they were holding national elections and stopped alcohol sales from Friday evening through Monday morning. Not a real fun time with no alcohol! Even the casinos couldn't serve.
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd]WTF! I wished I would have known about it. Then I would have altered my travel plans. What other holidays do they do that? It would be nice to have a fact sheet to warn people.[/QUOTE]It happend fairly frequently. Some bars and shops still serve. Ask a local.
Normally there is a notice posted at places that sell alcohol which will give you a day or two notice. [u]BUT READ THE NOTICE CAREFULLY[/u]. One time I mis-read the date/time indicated and had to muddle thru on what I already had, which was half my daily ration... :(
SunLover
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Lord Farquard
Great thanks for a VERY informative post! I'm pleased that my November trip won't be impacted. The death of the Princess a couple of years ago did put a temporary damper on my initial trip to Bangkok.
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Cialis in Pattaya question..,
I'll be in Pattaya Oct 9-15th staying at the Dynasty Inn on Soi 13.
1. Where's the best (pricewise and qualitywise) place nearby to buy cialis or apcialis and how much can I expect to pay?
2. Is the apcialis generally as good a quality stuff (works the same, etc.) as cialis!!
If anyone is interested in hanging out and hitting some gogos or beer bars or just have a drink,let me know.
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[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]There is your list[/QUOTE]Good list, though add election days, which can happen any time.
The real problem is that even the bars themselves often don't know in advance on which days they'll have to shut down. Policy is inconsistent from place to place and year to year. Sometimes bars are open as normal. Or they're open but you have to drink your beer out of a coffee cup. Or they're closed up tight. Or the bars are closed but the soapies are open, and so on. So it's best to prepare for the worst and have a backup plan in place. Or else, if you live here, just take a well deserved break.
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd]Quote Originally Posted by GreenBud
7-11s stopped alcohol sales, and most bars were closed this past Monday and Tuesday due to the Buddhist holiday.
WTF! I wished I would have known about it. Then I would have altered my travel plans. What other holidays do they do that? It would be nice to have a fact sheet to warn people. Quote
I feel your pain Green Bud. Recently came back from a trip to Medellin where they were holding national elections and stopped alcohol sales from Friday evening through Monday morning. Not a real fun time with no alcohol! Even the casinos couldn't serve.[/QUOTE]
There is also a Thread for " Thai Holidays " way down the bottom.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Betong]Good list, though add election days, which can happen any time.
The real problem is that even the bars themselves often don't know in advance on which days they'll have to shut down. Policy is inconsistent from place to place and year to year. Sometimes bars are open as normal. Or they're open but you have to drink your beer out of a coffee cup. Or they're closed up tight. Or the bars are closed but the soapies are open, and so on. So it's best to prepare for the worst and have a backup plan in place. Or else, if you live here, just take a well deserved break.[/QUOTE]
What is also frustrating is that they will change their minds a day or two before and not tell anyone.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]There is also a Thread for " Thai Holidays " way down the bottom.
LBM[/QUOTE]
I didn't see the Thai holiday that occurred in July on that list (I think it was when Buddha gave his first sermon).
It would be nice to know which holidays they won't sell alcohol and won't open girlie bars in Bangkok and Pattaya. Do they close the alcohol sales during election? It was like that in TJ Mexico.
In Bangkok and Phuket, all the bars are open during New Year's Eve (a lot of bars give free food, but they increase the barfine by 100%).
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[QUOTE=GreenBud]In Bangkok and Phuket, all the bars are open during New Year's Eve (a lot of bars give free food, but they increase the barfine by 100%).[/QUOTE]
That's why you gotta love FL's, and always have 1/2 dozen current numbers stored in the mongerfone.
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Hats off to you, great bit of info.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard]New Years’ Eve
The day before the Western New Year day is always marked a national holiday.
Thursday, 31 December 2009
New Year’s Day
The beginning of the western New Year is a national holiday in Thailand, one of three “new year” holidays celebrated every year.
Friday, 1 January 2010
Chinese New Year
The beginning of the Chinese lunar year is celebrated in the Chinatowns of every city throughout Thailand. Some businesses close for the day, but it is not a national holiday.
Sunday, 14 February 2010
Makha Bucha
Makha Bucha celebrates the Buddha’s first sermon in to his disciples.
Sunday, 28 February 2010
Monday, 1 March 2010 (substitution)
Chakri Day
Chakri Day commemorates the founding of the current dynasty by its first king, Rama I.
Tuesday, 6 April 2010
Songkran
Songkran is the traditional Thai New Year, generally celebrated as a water festival. Be prepared to get wet all over as revelers abound, ready to soak you as a form of celebrating this season!
Tuesday, 13 April 2010
Wednesday, 14 April 2010
Thursday, 15 April 2010
Thailand Labor Day
International Labor Day is also celebrated as a national holiday, even though there isn’t much ado about it. Some businesses may be closed.
Saturday, 1 May 2010
Monday, 1 May 2010 (substitution)
Coronation Day
Celebrates the day when the current king Rama IX was crowned in 1949.
Wednesday, 5 May 2010
Royal Ploughing Ceremony
An ancient royal rite held in Thailand to mark the traditional beginning of the rice-growing season
Sunday, 9 May 2010
Visakha Bucha / Vesak Day
The holiest Buddhist holiday celebrates the birth, enlightenment and entry into nirvana of the Buddha.
Friday, 28 May 2010
Asalha Puja Day
Commemorates the Buddha’s first sermon in the Deer Park in Benares and the founding of the Buddhist sangha.
Monday, 26 July 2010
Buddhist Lent Day (Wan Khao Phansa)
This day marks the beginning of the Buddhist ‘lent’ period, a time when monks are supposed to retreat to their temples while new life springs forth.
Tuesday, 27 July 2010
H.M. The Queen’s Birthday
Her Majesty the Queen’s birthday is a national holiday, also serving as the country’s Mothers’ Day as well.
Thursday, 12 August 2010
Chulalongkorn Memorial Day
Celebration of the death anniversary of Thailand’s one of the most revered kings, Rama V.
Saturday, 23 October 2010
Monday, 25 October 2010 (Substitude)
End of Buddhist Lent Day (Wan Awk Phansa)
This day marks the end of the Buddhist ‘lent’ period or the Rains Retreat.
Friday, 22 October 2010
Thod Kathin
Presentation of Monk’s Robes after Rains Retreat.
Saturday, 23 October 2010
Loy Kratong
While it is not marked a national holiday, it is an evening when Thais pay respect to the goddess of the waters by floating candlelit offerings on any and all waterways around the kingdom.
Saturday, 20 November 2010
H.M. The King’s Birthday
His Majesty the King’s birthday is celebrated throughout the country and also
Sunday, 5 December 2010
Monday, 6 December 2010 (Substitution)
Thai Constitution Day
Celebrates the date in 1932 when the country was granted its first constitution.
Friday, 10 December 2010
New Years’ Eve
The day before the Western New Year day is always marked a national holiday.
Friday, 31 December 2010
There is your list :)
You will find that the bars in tourist areas do not close on all holidays, but you when you get into the rural areas, they shut down tight, and all the employees go home for the holiday.
The govenment imposes some stiff fines if you do not observe the holidays.[/QUOTE]
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In Pattaya soon
Heading to Pattaya next Thursday for a three week break and really looking forward to it. This would be my 5th or 6th trip and have only ever looked for girls along Beach Road. Have been reading the posts lately and this time will see what I can find at Walking Street. No matter what, I am sure fun will be had.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]... It's funny because these same girls who take 500 ST on the beach try to get 1000ST when they are on walking.[/QUOTE]
It has never happened to me so far... Anyway, I seldom pay more than 500 baht for a "basic" ST session (I would pay up to 1000 baht if a few extras are on the menu, such as anal and video allowed, for instance) with a local freelancer in Pattaya, and it doesn't matter where I picked up the girl (in a disco, on Walking Street, on Beach Road, or wherever...).
A "basic" ST session with a Thai freelancer in Pattaya is usually 500 baht for me, and a "basic" LT is usually 1000 baht. It might be even less with an older girl, or a little bit more if the girl is really beautiful (600 or 700 baht ST, 1100 or 1200 baht LT). I usually add from 300 up to 500 baht to those figures if the girl provides more than the "basic" services.
When I'm in Pattaya, I don't encounter much difficulties to find 18-25 year old attractive girls that are willing to partake with me for those amounts in the evening or a bit later at night (for instance, at around 10-11pm on Beach Road, and 11pm-midnight on Walking Street). I must admit that it's a lot more difficult (to find attractive young freelance providers) though than a few years ago (especially on Beach Road in the afternoon) and that on average, the quality is lower too in these areas (and that's probably because even the ugliest girls can find foreign customers that are willing to pay the same money -- and sometimes even more -- to fuck them, so, they are proportionally more and more numerous everyday, I suppose).
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd]How is the beach area for finding afternoon talent?[/QUOTE]
Not great nowadays (it is mostly the older and less attractive girls that are working there in the afternoon), alas, but one can sometimes find an attractive 18-25 year old provider in this area at that time of the day (but it is rather the exception than the general rule, then).
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[QUOTE=Hotman 666]... I don’t remember the first time I heard Beach Rd. referred to as “Coconut Bar” but it was certainly several years ago...[/QUOTE]
That's funny because I've never heard this expression previously, even though I've fucked several hundreds of those Beach Road girls since 1999.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666]... Anyway, whatever we call it I believe that it still represents the BEST value for money in Pattaya...[/QUOTE]
Probably, nevertheless, the "bush area" (that I have mentioned in [url="http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1015330"]an earlier report[/url]) is even cheaper (but the quality of the providers is usually much lower though) in Pattaya.
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Body massage
Hi there,
Does anybody have info about a place where they do body massage in a small road near to soi Diana, I think the road is phattayasaisong 11. It is a very elegant place with a big sign outside with written bodymassaage. I went inside and there were many really good-looking girls with a manager that told me that the service is 1800 b. I didn't have that money with me so I kindly declined, but I'm willing to try. Does anybody ever tried this place? How is the service? And the 1800 B are "all inclusive" or you have to pay an extra to the girl?
Thanks for the help
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[QUOTE=Chicob]Hi there,
Does anybody have info about a place where they do body massage in a small road near to soi Diana, I think the road is phattayasaisong 11. It is a very elegant place with a big sign outside with written bodymassaage. I went inside and there were many really good-looking girls with a manager that told me that the service is 1800 b. I didn't have that money with me so I kindly declined, but I'm willing to try. Does anybody ever tried this place? How is the service? And the 1800 B are "all inclusive" or you have to pay an extra to the girl?
Thanks for the help[/QUOTE]
Haven't seen that road near soi Diana but there is soi Honey with lots of massage places plus the Honey Inn Hotel is now a massage place [url]http://www.honeyinnpattaya.com/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Not great nowadays (it is mostly the older and less attractive girls that are working there in the afternoon), alas, but one can sometimes find an attractive 18-25 year old provider in this area at that time of the day (but it is rather the exception than the general rule, then).[/QUOTE]
I definitely second that. When I was in Patts a few months ago it was very very difficult to find something decent on Beach Road in the day time if I wanted an after breakfast BJ or an after beach BJ. A few times I walked up and down Beach Road two or three times before settling for one, and I ended up using the same provider for my after beach BJ several times because of this, here she is in action:...
[url]http://www.******.com/index.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=507156[/url]
On Beach Road in the day time I don't have very high standards or expectations, but it was a real struggle to find providers that:
1: Were not drunk or on drugs
2: Did not look like they suffered from some sort of nasty disease
3: Wore clean clothes and looked clean
4: Was not fat, ugly, old, or disgusting looking
5: Did not look like they were a katoey
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]on Beach Road in the day time I don't have very high standards or expectations, but it was a real struggle to find providers that:
1: Were not drunk or on drugs
2: Did not look like they suffered from some sort of nasty disease
3: Wore clean clothes and looked clean
4: Was not fat, ugly, old, or disgusting looking
5: Did not look like they were a katoey[/QUOTE]
Very appropriate as many of the expats/visitors on BR match these descriptions themselves.
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Summer Break in Pattaya
Done with a work mission in very, very northern US location, I decide to take few days off in Thailand. Arrived at BKK too late to take a bus to Pattaya, beside I was quite wasted. I then take a cab and ask to be brought to Nana.
They giggle at it, not wanting to deprieve the other waiting drivers of a laugh, I repeat it loud so they can all hear, they make signs of approval at me and one get out of the line to shake my hand! That made me feel good to begin with.
Getting to Nana we drive by a police stations where many many young girls and some pimps are hanging out. Many are quite attractive, starting price (not sure for what) is 2000 b., quickly reducend to 1,500 b. I do not patronize.
At Nana everything is in full swing as usual. I just stroll few meters dragging my roller duffel before locating something of interest, a sweet calm clean woman. We walk up toward the side where it appears everything ends, I want to buy a beer at 7-11 and I'm then first meet with that ridiculous curfew regulation. We walk 30 meters more and at Familiy Mart they sell alchool without any fuss. There is a little hotel there in front, "Orchid", only 600b but celan decent and all is working. Fortunately they have a room, nice helpful lady owner, so we walk up and I can relax.
I don't rememeber now what we've done but must have been nice as I have her stay long time. I tip her nicely, her name is One and she can be found close to the major intersection.
The following day I leave for an easy transfer to Pattaya, bus prices have not changed at 113b. I rent a scooter in Beach Road and proceed to my favorite Korean resort, only 800b for a nicely decorated "bungalow", swimming pool, great location behind Big C. It would have been 1,000 regular, but as soon I mention I "always come back same same" I get the discount. I love that place, quiet and they are sooo nice.
The rest of the story is a bit boring as I stuck to the same lady all the time. She is a bit older that what most may like, but I look at her body and face and I don't find it much different from many 21 yrs old that I banged here. Short sotry she fuckls me silly so that I have no energy to look other directions, altough I may do an exception tonight going to the Disco. That is the only place that thrills me a little due to the occasional sensless.
All the other details would be so boring like, where to eat, money given to he lady to get a new room. etc, I hope I will have something more interesting but for now I can only say, this place get into your system easily, I have to admit, for much love I have for latin women and stuff, they have their very very major winning points here.
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]Haven't seen that road near soi Diana but there is soi Honey with lots of massage places plus the Honey Inn Hotel is now a massage place [url]http://www.honeyinnpattaya.com/[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks ThaiLearner! Can you tell me something about this place? How is service? And how much do you have to pay?
Thank you
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I apologize for the horrible spelling in my previous post, hope the sense came across anyway.
A little earlier today I went to visit another woman that I think I wrote about previously. She had no bad feelings about me kicking her out of the bed as I had to run for a last minute meeting with another chick I fancied at the time.
While chatting her up, I see a truly beautiful girl go by, so ask my friend to help me hook up, even promised a tip. She says that first of all this kind of thingies get "big money" from ther sucker overseas, to which I ask what big money is, she says 50 grandbaths monthly. Then she says "is not easy" that she hooks me up, thing that I kind had knew already.
Oh well all is nice and cool, today is teeth cleaning day, then not sure what exactly, but I only have 24 hrs, will try to spend them the best.
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Spot on - nice one!!
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Very appropriate as many of the expats/visitors on BR match these descriptions themselves.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy] I then take a cab and ask to be brought to Nana...They giggle at it, not wanting to deprieve the other waiting drivers of a laugh, I repeat it loud so they can all hear, they make signs of approval at me and one get out of the line to shake my hand! [/QUOTE]I envy your self confidence. Or perhaps the excessive liquor?
[QUOTE=New Old Guy] she fuckls me silly so that I have no energy to look other directions[/QUOTE]Ah yes, the old 'fuckl me silly' routine - I know it well :)
[QUOTE=New Old Guy]...proceed to my favorite Korean resort, only 800b for a nicely decorated "bungalow", swimming pool, great location behind Big C. [/QUOTE]Sorry, have you posted on this place before? Could you point me in the right direction (e.g., name of the place)?
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[QUOTE=Chicob]body massage in a small road near to soi Diana, I think the road is phattayasaisong 11.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's the official name of Soi Honey, and what you saw was the brand new Honey soapie. Somebody was already complaining about it here but a friend went a couple weeks ago and was extremely pleased. As usual at Pattaya soapies, the girls tend to be a bit older (generally upper 20s), so it probably wouldn't be the place to go to find young ones.
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[QUOTE=Chicob]Thanks ThaiLearner! Can you tell me something about this place? How is service? And how much do you have to pay?
Thank you[/QUOTE]
Sorry never been it hasn't been open very long
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Ya-Ba fucks your brain !
This is for you all meth lovers (just joking).
On Beach road yesterday, I see a quite young girl, darker complexion, slim and very pretty face of delicate features. She is also nicely dressed and appears to be about to have a clean meal from a box, plus bottled water. As I sit, she waves an high five and some jokeful expression, so I tought well at least I found a funny girls to start with. Well, not really. As I look at her I realize she is completely gone, still has movements control but talks incoherently, sweeping between all kinds of facial expression. I ask "what you took? " and she comes back straight: BA. I am impressed because her behavoir seems more like true schizophrenia rater than a trip of any sort. Such a pity, she was no doubt one of the most attractive around yesterday. I ask the women sitting on the same bench if they will take care of her, to which they answer yes. Well, I'm not so convinced, but do hope so.
I leave, an move on. No more beach road for tonight.
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Busted!
This happens when one is stupid. I must be very stupid as I got busted three times already in my life and none of these was a nice experience.
Yesterday evening I stop by my fixed lady new room (3, 000 b. Monthly, appears decent but no A/C and no cooking corner). She is not there, so happy as a motherfucker I tought I had I broken free and go for adventures as the night approaches.
One approach I like, altough of not very high effectiveness is to hook up beauties as they go by. Well yesterday for the first fucking time a truly gorgeous responds positively and off we go for preliminary drinks (I must check attitudes first). This one, a 9. 5 overall, tall, very cute face teeth hair hands ears toes you name it, she had it right. And nice attitude too.
She suggest I call her back a little later has she was going to party with friends to which I propose we have a short test drive instead. Mandatory stopy at the mart, I ask what she wants, at first she is undecided then she gets some sort of gourment chocolate in a cubic box, 150 b, WTF?!
Anyway, charged with the fine catch I motormarch to the resort, there sitting by the guard, are the bad news: "Official lady" with an ashes face.
Oh well, have to deal with the situation I guess. Park motorbike, tell young girls evertyhing is fucked up, to which she does not seem too impressed. As she leaves with taxi money, she crosses few words with "official lady", for which I would have paid for a translation, no matter how derogatory of myself.
Now, have to say the ensuing confrontation was handled by both sides with reasonable composture. I just made sure my leatherman tool was safely put aside. She had very good points. First of all, she tagged along three days full time by my request, without giving me a single moment of bullshit ever and no hles barred in bed, anytime. Then, she had gave me her number, I could have just called and said I wanted to be alone or with someone else. Lazy as I am, I never did. Having her wait 4 hours for me by the gate was also another thing I would not have put up myself either.
My points were weak and not sure if they come much across due the language barrer. I think the most effective one was like "This is Pattaya, your choice to be here". Anyway, I felt embarassed as I clearly wronged her.
Fortunately, this drama did not lasted too long, cannot really compare to the other serious busts in my life. Some Bath changed hands (that I had already planned to give anyway) and off she went by her older friend motobike (no sure why she had to call her over).
What really strikes me in all this, is how quick the younger lady was in grabbing the fine chocolate as she took off on contigency. Fortunately, she left the featherlite condoms, that are very good by the way.
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[QUOTE=Kumbu]Sorry, have you posted on this place before? Could you point me in the right direction (e.g., name of the place)?[/QUOTE]I can certainly give it away. Behind Big C (central) there are few "no fun for falang" clubs and discos, like Holliwood and Noir. On that road, the only crossing has a sign "Korean Garden", drive up 50 mts and are you are there.
It is the most quiet, convenient and affordable place I have found so far.
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Milk and the newbie
If you guys remember I told you I developed relationships with two girls in Pattaya who find me milkers. I pay them 200 baht for every milker they find for me. They get 300 baht if they go in the room to make sure all goes well and they get 500 if they join in. It’s a good thing to develop a relationship with these girls if you are looking for something specific and don’t want to deal with hunting for it or getting turned down over and over.
Anyhow my contact, Oy, called me and said she had a 19 year old that was dripping like a fire hose. Oy told me this girl literally would soak a shirt in ten minutes there was so much milk. And she only wanted 500 baht for pics, anal and my latest request facials.
The girl-I cant even remember her name-was average in looks and shy. But see that is what my contact is there with me for. To tell the girl what I want, how I want it and to make sure it happens. With my contacts I know they will make sure I won’t get ripped off and I will be 100% pleased. Oy made sure this all happened as always.
The girl was really dripping. I mean she popped those milk jugs out and she starting really really leaking milk. I made her sit there for ten minutes and watched her soak a towel. She never had to even touch her tits to do this. I videotaped the whole thing. Then I made her fill a small glass with milk and she drank it. Yummy.
Then I started fucking her. Oy coached her while I did it. The girl was a newbie and seemed unsure of what to do. It is sort of hot to have a girl coaching a girl as you are pounding the hell out of her. As I was fucking the milker Oy starts licking my balls. Absolute heaven. When I switched to anal I could see it really was hurting her so I stopped.
Then as I was pounding the milker missionary she really starting leaking. It was streaming down her sides as her tits bounced all around. I couldn’t hold it anymore and I shot the mother of all cumshots on her tits. I just couldn’t aim for her face as I had to let it go. The newbie seemed surprised at so much cum. I want to see if I could go even further-I told Oy that if she ate the cum I would give the newbie another 300 baht.
She cleaned up every drop of cum off her tits with her fingers and ate it all. I could tell she didn’t like it but she did it.
Afterwards I paid the newbie her 800 baht and I took Oy to Hard Rock Café for a bite to eat. She is a good kid and always is nice to talk to and hang out with. I gave her 1k(she really did a good job) and she told me a friend of hers-with 44DD-yes that’s right-was coming from Korat to stay with her. Now I know Thai girls lie but Oy never has and she knew the exact size of her friends tits because she said she wanted me to have her first when she came to Pattaya. She said the girl doesn’t have milk but in this case her boob size will make up for it. Ill be sure to report.
Showdown
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Braless with a cameltoe and her lesbian friend
I just cannot get enough of my big tits girl pussy in Pattaya. If you remember my previous report this girl delivered. And I went back for more.
This time she brought a friend along. Big tits showed up in a tight ass shirt again-tits everywhere jiggling(I called her and told her not to wear a bra when we met). She had a massive cameltoe. I got hard within seconds of seeing her. Her friend seemed a bit shy but once I started speaking Thai to her she warmed up. They always do. Note-for you newbies-get a hold of a Thai language tape or something and learn 10 or 20 basic words or phrases. It goes a long way with warming these girls up. Nevertheless big tits already had a room for us(as I asked her to do). I knew that my 1500 baht each for them was going to be well spent. Believe me guys I know its more that the usual Pattaya 500 baht but it is worth it!
I took about fifty pics of this girl doing all sorts of things..I mean nasty stuff. Putting the head of the shower into her pussy, putting three of her fingers in her ass etc. Her friend was not doing it but then she later surprised me. I took a great pic of her-what I call the mountains of joy. I got under her and took a pic of her holding those massive mounds of flesh. Oh joy.
Anyway we started the deed and I was getting concerned that her friend seemed a bit cold. But then out of the blue she goes down on big tit girl! I mean she literally pulled my dick out of big tits and starting eating her out. She does this for about 30 seconds and asked me “you like”. Hell yes I do. So as she eats out big tits I start banging her friends ass. I always go slow with anal but this girl was begging to really give it to her. Right as I was going to nut big tits asked me where did I want to cum.
I shot it all over her face.
Believe me I will be back to see big tits again.
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At "car on the wall" yesterday
I am getting more and more into this game, too bad yesterday it was the last night.
I have to admit, the previous times in Thais clubs I was just too stiff and hanging to money or a sure catch. That is not the right approach and if you take it will negatively affect your vibes and performances. I think yesterday it finally clicked into me for good.
Come on, where else in the world you can dance the shit off yourself with an all-hits DJ set with masterpieces like "boom-boom shake shake it" and "low low looow loooow", surrounded by friendly and often gorgeous women, stay fresh and safe, come and go as you please, no obnoxious bouncers, no ID checks, no smoke inside, while all is requested from you, is to shell out 4 miserable dollars for a drink, only if and when you like?
Anyway, I go and mingle up to a table of three woman. As usual, hard to say if they are friends partying, or willing to go with you and when, that is part of the game, just think in other places of the world you will just be laught at for just trying, that has happened to me when I was like in my early 30s, straight as shit and with plenty of money. I still rememeber that bitter euro biatch, hope she got all wrinkled and depressive by now.
I go all in on the older one, a petite of the "classy thai real-estate woman" looks, very fashion swiss cheese sweater and perectly choosen accessories (yes I note these things, strange I am nor gay for fashion professional), clearly a model quality (except size) in her still recent youth. Your true asian MILF in other words. We dance a lot and she approved my moves with big smiles. Here physical contact is required, altough I personally try to never cross the line of "good disco manners". Other guys just go for butts grabs and that doesn't seem to upset anyone.
I was quite sure I got a good one but the too many drinks somehow saddened her, she goes out for a cig and cries about about a recent breackup. She is a doctor's assistant made clear "no bar gir". All fine with me, I try gently until the last moment, she is tempted and very apologizing to me, wants to leave number for a next occasion, but finally goes home alone.
By the way, I have found that what often happens to monogamous women, breackups fucks up their sexuality big time, while they can still be flirtly and nice overall. I had this "reluctant fuck" recently in the Dominican Republic, that not even a common language and a lot of pussy eating could fix it.
Back to the club, it's now 3am and I'm a bit disappointed as the choices thinned out a lot, and I have uses a lot energies already. I convince myself that butt shaking is good for myself anyway, but can't help the fact no obvious attractive pro or semi is in sight. The pretty long leggerd ones have been took out already, and all what is left is some middle grade partier that appears determined to dance until fucking six o'clock in the morning.
Fortunately Buddha still loves me despite the wrongdoing exposed in my other post, or perhaps I have amended myself being a gentleman to the MILF, anyway I see a lovely honey coloured hair little thingie walk out alone, like bored.
I walk behind and her body is pretty typical but nicely proportioned, no tattos in sight, start talking and as often happens she doesn't seem very interested at the beginning, she buys a pair of shoes but still nice to me. By now I have kind of learnt that unlike Latinas that makes clear they want your leche right away, this is the pre-fuck etiquette over here, so I play cool and do not drop the ball.
Lei (I think?) turned to be an excellent chick. She is jokeful, smart and self-confident, but never aggressive, with silky smooth skin topped by delightful B-cups, small nipple boobs. Very very prety face, can kiss and blow well, and is not condom-obsessive. Do not jump into the shower every moment and nicely sleep over for a subsequent good morning fuck. I try to talk her into "very long time" doubling gift to 3, 000, but she passes on, more power to her.
Now, may Buddha give me the power to survive pussy-free in falang-land. By my side I still have an one-way ticket for Sept. 7th. That would make 4 trips to LOS in one year, not a bad performance I keep telling myself!
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Honey soapie - and Honey BJ
[QUOTE=Betong]Yes, that's the official name of Soi Honey, and what you saw was the brand new Honey soapie. Somebody was already complaining about it here but a friend went a couple weeks ago and was extremely pleased. As usual at Pattaya soapies, the girls tend to be a bit older (generally upper 20s), so it probably wouldn't be the place to go to find young ones.[/QUOTE]I walked by there the other day, and while the facilities looked brand new, the girls unfortunately looked rather beyond their best-before date. The prices quoted to me by the quite nice papa-san were 1500 and 1800 for red and blue tags, although I don't remember which was which and honestly couldn't tell any difference in looks, at least. But as I didn't see anything that I fancied, I passed.
I had a rather interesting experience on the same soi the day before, though. I had just arrived I Pattaya after a long flight and was seriously jetlagged and in desperate need of lunch, a haircut and a (proper) massage, in no particular order. Opposite the place where I had lunch I found a barber shop, and as I came out again from there, a lady from the massage place next door suggested I come in for a massage and told me I could have a shower as well to wash away any cut-off hairs. Now, this was perhaps not the first massage place I would have selected on my own. There are dozens of them lining the street, and plenty of them looked more salubrious. But what the hell, I thought, and selected the girl said to give the best massage.
After a quick shower, I lay down on the massage table naked, without any of those pyjama pants that some places use. The massage was indeed quite good, but then the masseuse, already a mother of two kids, started saying that she wanted my babies and started tickling my balls. "Boom-boom? " she asked. "One thousand! Only joking. " She certainly wasn't ugly or anything but I just wasn't up to it and wanted to save myself for the evening. But then she suddenly took me in her mouth and started blowing me, and as she was rather good at it I didn't stop her, and promptly came in her mouth a few minutes later. She did complain about the waste of babies, but looked happy with her 500 baht tip.
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I would bet dollars to dongnuts I plunked the bit titted one. She use to hang around Beach Rd somewhere near Soi 13.
First was great, not so on the second round. Maybe it was me - i.e., the thrill was gone?
[QUOTE=Showdown]I just cannot get enough of my big tits girl pussy in Pattaya. If you remember my previous report this girl delivered. And I went back for more.
This time she brought a friend along. Big tits showed up in a tight ass shirt again-tits everywhere jiggling(I called her and told her not to wear a bra when we met). She had a massive cameltoe. I got hard within seconds of seeing her. Her friend seemed a bit shy but once I started speaking Thai to her she warmed up. They always do. Note-for you newbies-get a hold of a Thai language tape or something and learn 10 or 20 basic words or phrases. It goes a long way with warming these girls up. Nevertheless big tits already had a room for us(as I asked her to do). I knew that my 1500 baht each for them was going to be well spent. Believe me guys I know its more that the usual Pattaya 500 baht but it is worth it!
I took about fifty pics of this girl doing all sorts of things..I mean nasty stuff. Putting the head of the shower into her pussy, putting three of her fingers in her ass etc. Her friend was not doing it but then she later surprised me. I took a great pic of her-what I call the mountains of joy. I got under her and took a pic of her holding those massive mounds of flesh. Oh joy.
Anyway we started the deed and I was getting concerned that her friend seemed a bit cold. But then out of the blue she goes down on big tit girl! I mean she literally pulled my dick out of big tits and starting eating her out. She does this for about 30 seconds and asked me “you like”. Hell yes I do. So as she eats out big tits I start banging her friends ass. I always go slow with anal but this girl was begging to really give it to her. Right as I was going to nut big tits asked me where did I want to cum.
I shot it all over her face.
Believe me I will be back to see big tits again.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy] ...no smoke inside..[/QUOTE]Is that correct? No smoking inside the bars there? Do most hotels also have non-smoking rooms?
My allergies get triggered easily by smoke, especially the deep rooted stale smoke in beds and hotel rooms, so no smoking inside bars and hotel rooms will make me look forward to a Thailand trip even more.
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I was quite sure I got a good one but the too many drinks somehow saddened her, she goes out for a cig and cries about about a recent breackup.[/QUOTE]
Everybody has a sad story sometime in their life, too bad she was bombed and crying around you. Glad the night turned out to be great. I hope the milf wore the shoes while you were "deep in conversation" back at your room!
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Great report -from New Old Guy..but what (where?) is Car on the Wall?
[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I am getting more and more into this game, too bad yesterday it was the last night.
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[QUOTE=Bubba999]Great report -from New Old Guy..but what (where?) is Car on the Wall?[/QUOTE]
It's probably the Walking Street Sports Café, in Pattaya: there is a large red car hung on the wall that you can't miss as you walk in. Check the attachment.
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]I definitely second that. When I was in Patts a few months ago it was very very difficult to find something decent on Beach Road in the day time if I wanted an after breakfast BJ or an after beach BJ. A few times I walked up and down Beach Road two or three times before settling for one, and I ended up using the same provider for my after beach BJ several times because of this, here she is in action:
[url]http://www.******.com/index.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=507156[/url][/QUOTE]Nice vid :)
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]On Beach Road in the day time I don't have very high standards or expectations, but it was a real struggle to find providers that:
1: Were not drunk or on drugs
2: Did not look like they suffered from some sort of nasty disease
3: Wore clean clothes and looked clean
4: Was not fat, ugly, old, or disgusting looking
5: Did not look like they were a katoey[/QUOTE]So true Beach Road can be hit or miss. In May the largest selection was around the soi 10 area. The walking path is wider you will see a baht a minute internet shop accross the street. My advice for the newbie would be keep walking it and don't be discouraged, just wait for the scenery to change. A horrid selection at 1pm can turn into a decent selection with some gems a few hours later.
SunLover
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Patrick 'Shrimp' Gauvain
When I first starting traveling to Thailand, there was an expat photographer named Patrick Gauvain who produced and sold "Shrimp" calendars.
Does anyone know if 2010 or 2011 calendars are available? I have searched diligently but could not find any recent information.
Thanks, Bule2004
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Trip report - 1st time to LOS
i just completed my first visit to pattaya, so here's my trip report. i owe a big thank you to the contributors on this board as the info was extremely helpful and made planning my trip easy. also, keep in mind that my comments about the girls are my own opinions. your mileage may vary.
my trip was rather spur of the moment – i found a small window of opportunity in my work schedule, so i booked a 4 night stay in pattaya. since i live in china, the travel time isn't too long for a 4 night stay. i booked the sabai lodge (recommended by a co-worker) which was a decent place. i enjoyed the pools and the room i had was a nice size. it was a bit far from walking street, but the baht bus made the distance a non-issue really.
my flight arrived at bkk at 7pm (an hour late). i had booked pt taxi service, and the driver was waiting for me, near exit #3 (i would recommend their service and plan to use them next visit). the drive down to pattaya was quick and uneventful. upon arrival and check-in of the hotel i headed down to the pharmacy across from lek hotel (thanks to info on this board) and aquired some kamagra gel packs for a little pick-me-up. after a little bit more exploration around town i retired to the room for the night as i was quite exhausted from a long week at work and the long day of travel.
day 1: i headed down to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for a quick bj to start my day. the place is nice and clean. the service was ok. the girl i had wasn't that attractive and was a bit chub chub, but since it was just a bj, i wasn't going to be picky – i just went with the first one that approached me. overall, not bad, but i don't think i would go back. i'll spare you the non-sex details of my day and skip on to the good stuff. i headed down to walking street around 10pm. after wandering around a bit i was pulled into a little agogo near misty's (didn't catch the name). it was pretty bad – fugly girls. i made a quick exit from there and ended up at angelwitch. this place has a nice setup imo. after watching a couple of shows, one of the girls came over and asked if she could join me. she wasn't the hottest, but she was cute enough and spoke english well enough to carry a conversation. she was girl #34, and i think her name was nana or something like that. she told me later that night she was 29 yrs old. i ended up taking her lt. was planning st, but she kept asking for lt, so the sucker that i am, i accepted. i'm glad i did as she was the best lay i had the whole trip – really awesome kisser. we did boom-boom twice at night and once in the morning. after the 1st time i wanted to go to sleep, but she kept me awake and convinced me to go for a 2nd time. we did it until she came a couple of times (i didn't). she thanked me, and it was time for sleep.
day 2: after sleeping in past 10:00, we did our morning boom-boom and then showered before she went on her way. a lot of non-sex stuff happened that i'll skip. at one point i ventured down soi 6. it's quite an intimidating walk. i didn't really see anything i liked, and i didn't enjoy getting groped, grabbed, and pulled by girls and ladyboys, so i don't think i'll be heading back there anytime soon. later that night i ended up back at walking street again. i started at happy agogo. i didn't really see any girls that i liked there. i bought one girl a couple of lady drinks, but i wasn't too interested, so i split w/out barfining her. i wondered down to windmill next. that place was pretty raunchy, but i found a girl there that was rather sweet – sorry but i can't remember her name or number, but i remember she said she was 22 yrs old and had one kid (she had a little loose belly flab as a result). it was something about her smile that just got me hooked. i took her st and we did the deed. she was pretty good – she wanted to do anal but since neither of us had lube, we didn't. after i wore her out, she ended up sucking me off to completion (w/ cim). afterwards we made small talk – she said she's been working for 2 months and i was her 2nd customer – i don't know if i believe her, but whatever. two customers in two months seems pretty darn slow. i don't think she'll be working for long at that rate. at this point it was 2am and time for sleep.
day 3: today was to be my big day. i had made a 1:30 appointment at devil's den. i requested ning and bang, but i was informed ning was unavailable. i told the guy i'd pick the 2nd girl from the line up. it had been raining all morning, so i stayed in until time to head to dd for my appointment. after having a quick drink the girls came in for the line up. there was only two on the right side of the line (anal side). i ended up picking amee as my 2nd girl – not the prettiest, but i wasn't there for pretty. we headed upstairs for my 90 minutes of bliss. overall, i'd say the experience was a bit underwhelming. don't get me wrong, it was good, but it seemed kinda forced and mechanical. they got me off twice, and there was lots of sucking, vaginal, and anal action, but i can't say i would recommend the place. one thing that annoyed me is that they kept wanting to stick things up my ass – i had to tell them no multiple times. also, having two girls was more of a distraction to me – i found that i would rather focus on a single girl than juggle two at a time – that's just me. all that being said, i think bang had a really nice body and butt.
later that night i was back out on walking street (again). i ducked my head into heaven above, but i didn't like what i saw, so i ventured on down to babydoll's. after having a few drinks there i ended up with girl #21 – i think her name was aim? anyway, i took her st. she was probably the cutest girl i took this trip. sex with her was pretty good – she like to ride cowgirl and did it well. missionary was a bit more difficult because she liked to lay w/ her hips too flat. i like the girl to tilt her hips up towards me a bit, but it still worked out (maybe i'm just being too critical). we went at it until we both had enough, and i saw her out after a quick shower. at this point it was around midnight – i had planned to go out again, but since i was leaving at 7:30am, i decided to call it a trip and go to bed.
overall, i think it was a good trip. i'm already planning for my next visit in the coming months.
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[QUOTE=Bule2004]Does anyone know if 2010 or 2011 calendars are available?[/QUOTE]No, no Shrimp calendars for several years now. He got tired of the hassles and these days sticks to legit ad work and family life.
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[QUOTE=Lost Dude]I just completed my first visit to Pattaya, so here's my trip report. [/QUOTE]Great report, thanks. Sounds like you had a good time, which always brings a smile to old Kumbu's face.[QUOTE=Lost Dude]...Angelwitch...She was girl #34, and I think her name was Nana or something like that...she was the best lay I had the whole trip[/QUOTE]This is the first time in a long time someone has reported BFing someone from Angelwitch. Not that it doesn't happen, I'm just saying that not many ISGers seem to report that they BF girls from Angelwitch. I've been there something like 20 times and never BFed anyone. The staff know me there as the American Buddha, the reference to Buddha's supposed celibacy. I have often been approached by girls, and always turned them down, and I'm not sure why. I just don't get the right vibe there. But perhaps this report will convince me to give it a shot. [QUOTE=Lost Dude]I had made a 1:30 appointment at Devil's Den...Overall, I'd say the experience was a bit underwhelming. [/QUOTE]This is a very common reaction to DD, or Eden in BKK. I had the very same reaction to Eden the first (and only) time I went there. I read it over and over again, the 'forced' and 'mechanical' nature of the routine. It really works for some guys, but not for all. DD/Eden seem to be all about the ass, so I understand why they were sticking stuff up yours. But really, that can be annoying, can't it?
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Lost Dude in Pattaya
[quote=lost dude]i just completed my first visit to pattaya, so here's my trip report. i owe a big thank you to the contributors on this board as the info was extremely helpful and made planning my trip easy. also, keep in mind that my comments about the girls are my own opinions. your mileage may vary.
my trip was rather spur of the moment – i found a small window of opportunity in my work schedule, so i booked a 4 night stay in pattaya. since i live in china, the travel time isn't too long for a 4 night stay. i booked the sabai lodge (recommended by a co-worker) which was a decent place. i enjoyed the pools and the room i had was a nice size. it was a bit far from walking street, but the baht bus made the distance a non-issue really.
my flight arrived at bkk at 7pm (an hour late). i had booked pt taxi service, and the driver was waiting for me, near exit #3 (i would recommend their service and plan to use them next visit). the drive down to pattaya was quick and uneventful. upon arrival and check-in of the hotel i headed down to the pharmacy across from lek hotel (thanks to info on this board) and aquired some kamagra gel packs for a little pick-me-up. after a little bit more exploration around town i retired to the room for the night as i was quite exhausted from a long week at work and the long day of travel.
day 1: i headed down to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for a quick bj to start my day. the place is nice and clean. the service was ok. the girl i had wasn't that attractive and was a bit chub chub, but since it was just a bj, i wasn't going to be picky – i just went with the first one that approached me. overall, not bad, but i don't think i would go back. i'll spare you the non-sex details of my day and skip on to the good stuff. i headed down to walking street around 10pm. after wandering around a bit i was pulled into a little agogo near misty's (didn't catch the name). it was pretty bad – fugly girls. i made a quick exit from there and ended up at angelwitch. this place has a nice setup imo. after watching a couple of shows, one of the girls came over and asked if she could join me. she wasn't the hottest, but she was cute enough and spoke english well enough to carry a conversation. she was girl #34, and i think her name was nana or something like that. she told me later that night she was 29 yrs old. i ended up taking her lt. was planning st, but she kept asking for lt, so the sucker that i am, i accepted. i'm glad i did as she was the best lay i had the whole trip – really awesome kisser. we did boom-boom twice at night and once in the morning. after the 1st time i wanted to go to sleep, but she kept me awake and convinced me to go for a 2nd time. we did it until she came a couple of times (i didn't). she thanked me, and it was time for sleep.
day 2: after sleeping in past 10:00, we did our morning boom-boom and then showered before she went on her way. a lot of non-sex stuff happened that i'll skip. at one point i ventured down soi 6. it's quite an intimidating walk. i didn't really see anything i liked, and i didn't enjoy getting groped, grabbed, and pulled by girls and ladyboys, so i don't think i'll be heading back there anytime soon. later that night i ended up back at walking street again. i started at happy agogo. i didn't really see any girls that i liked there. i bought one girl a couple of lady drinks, but i wasn't too interested, so i split w/out barfining her. i wondered down to windmill next. that place was pretty raunchy, but i found a girl there that was rather sweet – sorry but i can't remember her name or number, but i remember she said she was 22 yrs old and had one kid (she had a little loose belly flab as a result). it was something about her smile that just got me hooked. i took her st and we did the deed. she was pretty good – she wanted to do anal but since neither of us had lube, we didn't. after i wore her out, she ended up sucking me off to completion (w/ cim). afterwards we made small talk – she said she's been working for 2 months and i was her 2nd customer – i don't know if i believe her, but whatever. two customers in two months seems pretty darn slow. i don't think she'll be working for long at that rate. at this point it was 2am and time for sleep.
day 3: today was to be my big day. i had made a 1:30 appointment at devil's den. i requested ning and bang, but i was informed ning was unavailable. i told the guy i'd pick the 2nd girl from the line up. it had been raining all morning, so i stayed in until time to head to dd for my appointment. after having a quick drink the girls came in for the line up. there was only two on the right side of the line (anal side). i ended up picking amee as my 2nd girl – not the prettiest, but i wasn't there for pretty. we headed upstairs for my 90 minutes of bliss. overall, i'd say the experience was a bit underwhelming. don't get me wrong, it was good, but it seemed kinda forced and mechanical. they got me off twice, and there was lots of sucking, vaginal, and anal action, but i can't say i would recommend the place. one thing that annoyed me is that they kept wanting to stick things up my ass – i had to tell them no multiple times. also, having two girls was more of a distraction to me – i found that i would rather focus on a single girl than juggle two at a time – that's just me. all that being said, i think bang had a really nice body and butt.
later that night i was back out on walking street (again). i ducked my head into heaven above, but i didn't like what i saw, so i ventured on down to babydoll's. after having a few drinks there i ended up with girl #21 – i think her name was aim? anyway, i took her st. she was probably the cutest girl i took this trip. sex with her was pretty good – she like to ride cowgirl and did it well. missionary was a bit more difficult because she liked to lay w/ her hips too flat. i like the girl to tilt her hips up towards me a bit, but it still worked out (maybe i'm just being too critical). we went at it until we both had enough, and i saw her out after a quick shower. at this point it was around midnight – i had planned to go out again, but since i was leaving at 7:30am, i decided to call it a trip and go to bed.
overall, i think it was a good trip. i'm already planning for my next visit in the coming months.[/quote]great report and a lot of info for a newbie like myself planning his first trip. can you remember any details of what you paid for you bar girls?
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[QUOTE=Lost Dude]Day 3: Today was to be my big day. I had made a 1:30 appointment at Devil's Den. I requested Ning and Bang, but I was informed Ning was unavailable. I told the guy I'd pick the 2nd girl from the line up. It had been raining all morning, so I stayed in until time to head to DD for my appointment. After having a quick drink the girls came in for the line up. There was only two on the right side of the line (anal side). I ended up picking Amee as my 2nd girl – not the prettiest, but I wasn't there for pretty. We headed upstairs for my 90 minutes of bliss. Overall, I'd say the experience was a bit underwhelming. Don't get me wrong, it was good, but it seemed kinda forced and mechanical. They got me off twice, and there was lots of sucking, vaginal, and anal action, but I can't say I would recommend the place. One thing that annoyed me is that they kept wanting to stick things up my ass – I had to tell them NO multiple times. Also, having two girls was more of a distraction to me – I found that I would rather focus on a single girl than juggle two at a time – that's just me. All that being said, I think Bang had a really nice body and butt.[/QUOTE]Do you know why Ning is unavailable? Soon I'll come back in Pattaya and I would like meet Ning again.
I know bang and many ladies work in DD and all the time I had a lot of fun.
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[Quote=Kumbu]This is the first time in a long time someone has reported BFing someone from Angelwitch. Not that it doesn't happen, I'm just saying that not many ISGers seem to report that they BF girls from Angelwitch. I've been there something like 20 times and never BFed anyone.[/quote]
Kumbu, Here's an sweet Angelwitch girl I BF'd back in '03. I don't think I've taken a girl out of there since then.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1845[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4036[/url]
I just realized that this girl was from the BKK Angelwitch and this is the Pattaya thread! Oh well, this was a sweet little spinner anyway!
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[QUOTE=Edward M]Great report and a lot of info for a newbie like myself planning his first trip. Can you remember any details of what you paid for you bar girls?[/QUOTE]Sure. 2K for the LT and 1K for ST. I didn't negotiate except for the last girl from Babydolls asked for 2K for ST, so I had to barter her down. Barfines were 600 except Babydolls which was 700. If I had known that ahead of time, I wouldn't have even gone in.
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[QUOTE=Christian G]Do you know why Ning is unavailable? Soon I'll come back in Pattaya and I would like meet Ning again.[/QUOTE]Not a clue, sorry.
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Dental Care Clinic
Can somebody recommend a "Dental Care Clinic" in Pattaya? (I know this forum is SexGuideForum. But, it may be also all right here to ask about something else than sex).
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Lost Dude]It was pretty bad – fugly girls.
She wasn't the hottest, but she was cute enough........She told me later that night she was 29 yrs old.
but I remember she said she was 22 yrs old and had one kid (she had a little loose belly flab as a result).
I ended up picking Amee as my 2nd girl – not the prettiest, but I wasn't there for pretty.
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This report really highlights the lack of good meat these days in Pattaya. Still good times to be had there of course, but if you're after good quality, Pattaya just doesn't offer it anymore, unfortunately.
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[QUOTE=NoCBJ4Me]Kumbu, Here's an sweet Angelwitch girl I BF'd back in '03. I don't think I've taken a girl out of there since then.[/QUOTE]That is pretty sweet. But yikes, 2003?! That's seven years...
Has anyone pulled a girl out of Angelwitch recently? The last time I was there (June), I was hassled (but tempted) but a cute young thing called Pui. She had a very pretty face, but seemed a little...soft-in-the-thigh...baby fat, jiggly, I don't know, I just wasn't satisfied. So I bailed on her - that's the closest I have come to BFing anyone from Angelwitch.
I suppose the lack of BFing from Angelwitch is part of the reason for the expensive drinks. They seem to be the sexy show joint, not really the BF joint, and perhaps they have accepted that.
If I am wrong, can anyone correct this impression?
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Fantastic!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Showdown]If ..... sure to report.
Showdown[/QUOTE]
I also adore big titted Thai girls! Great Job, and I cannot wait to see the 44dd!!!Post the video!!!
Cheers
HB
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[QUOTE=Kim Wheather]Can somebody recommend a "Dental Care Clinic" in Pattaya? (I know this forum is SexGuideForum. But, it may be also all right here to ask about something else than sex).
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Dental Clinic / Michael Schlatter Board of Directors , German Dental Co. LTD.
162/197 Moo 10, Thappraya Rd. Pattaya City, Chonburi 20260 Thailand
Tel: =66 38 251289 =66 38 365020, Email: [email]info@german-dental.net[/email]
[email]gdental@loxinfor.co.th[/email]
Dental-i-deas
Located on Pattaya Klang, left hand side, up from Carrefour and Foodland, directly across from the Siam Commericial Bank.
Direct line: 089-2505757, 038-716444, Email: [email]dentalideas@hotmail.com[/email],
[url]www.dental-ideas.com[/url]
LBM
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[QUOTE=Lost Dude]Sure. 2K for the LT and 1K for ST. I didn't negotiate except for the last girl from Babydolls asked for 2K for ST, so I had to barter her down. Barfines were 600 except Babydolls which was 700. If I had known that ahead of time, I wouldn't have even gone in.[/QUOTE]
One more thing u hv missed to clear.
From where exactly u buyed Kamagra gel, and paid. If u used will u please tell us how it worked ?
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I can certainly give it away. Behind Big C (central) there are few "no fun for falang" clubs and discos, like Holliwood and Noir. On that road, the only crossing has a sign "Korean Garden", drive up 50 mts and are you are there.
It is the most quiet, convenient and affordable place I have found so far.[/QUOTE]
New Old Guy,
I am very familiar with this area. Perhaps you are mistaken? There are several crossing on this road behind Big C.
Coming from the Leela Resort bottom of road heading towards Big C, the first crossing is at Hollywood, also there is a Police Box, as you proceed up to Big C, the second crossing on the corner is a club called Edge Club, behind the club and all along the road is Sabai Lodge, across the Soi from Big C. on the otherside is BM Commerence furiture shop, behind that area is a place called Garden Resort. If one continues up to Pattaya Nua, there is another crossing on the left which many of the buses park and a big empty lot with a few buildings that provide shows for the Korean, Chinese, Japanese tourist by the bus load.
The only place that I know of that have bungalows or cottages is the ' Cottages Resort " which is opposite Big C parking lot as you exit Big C, Ice Cream Swensens. Could you be mistaken? as to the name or location you mentioned?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Mua Tur]One more thing u hv missed to clear.
From where exactly u buyed Kamagra gel, and paid. If u used will u please tell us how it worked ?[/QUOTE]There is a pharmacy directly across the street from the LEK hotel. I think Pattaya 2nd Road. It opens at 5pm. A little old lady runs it. She offers kamagra gel packs for 70 Baht a piece but will discount if you buy several. I think I bought a 6 pack for 300 Baht. She also has generic cialis.
As far as how well it worked. I'm not sure. I usually don't have a problem getting an erection. It may have made it a bit harder (or maybe that was the girls). The reason I bought it is because once I slip on a condom and lose sensation my erections sometimes go down to 60-70%. I don't think it helped at all with that. I think I've just spent too many years barebacking at home. I did have improved recovery time though (w/ my LT and DD sessions), so in that regard I think it helped.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]This report really highlights the lack of good meat these days in Pattaya. Still good times to be had there of course, but if you're after good quality, Pattaya just doesn't offer it anymore, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]
Do you have any good suggestions for those who would be interested in finding such a thing?
p.s. You are not allowed to answer in such a general way as to render your reply practically useless, such as "yes in Bangkok". Your answer will not be considered sufficiently developed unless it contains at least some specific supporting details. ;)
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Hotel suggestions?
I'm planning my next trip and wanting a hotel close to the action with certain requirements. Last stay was on Soi 6 at Queen Vic and I liked it a lot. But I'm wanting to stay closer to walking street this time. Any hotels near Walking street that have wifi in the room, wall safe for laptop and camera, swimming pool and is girl friendly. I prefer a place that is nicer than cheaper in price.
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Suggestion for overnight boat trip to islands?
Planning my next trip to Pattaya and would like to take a couple of GFE types with me for an overnight boating trip to a nearby island. Want to stay on the boat at night but swim and play on the island during the day. Anyone know of a tour operator that has a nice big boat made for this sort of tour? A web address would be really helpful if anyone knows of one.
Thanks
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Korean Garden
LBM,
I should have been more exact: At the (only) crossing between Noir and Hollywood, there is a sign and driving slightly uphill, it's the 2nd resort on the left.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]This report really highlights the lack of good meat these days in Pattaya. Still good times to be had there of course, but if you're after good quality, Pattaya just doesn't offer it anymore, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]Not sure if we're talking about the same Pattaya. The girl I had to let go due to being busted was a straight 9, the one I got on walking street an easy 8.
To be clear I am talking almost model like material, unfortunately I do not take pictures for whatever reason.
And they were not rare, I have seen many stunners also. What matters most, both had great attitudes.
I can't wait to be back.
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]Not sure if we're talking about the same Pattaya. The girl I had to let go due to being busted was a straight 9, the one I got on walking street an easy 8.
To be clear I am talking almost model like material, unfortunately I do not take pictures for whatever reason.
And they were not rare, I have seen many stunners also. What matters most, both had great attitudes.
I can't wait to be back.[/QUOTE]
Easy to boast, but you got to show pics to prove it!
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]LBM,
I should have been more exact: At the (only) crossing between Noir and Hollywood, there is a sign and driving slightly uphill, it's the 2nd resort on the left.[/QUOTE]
O.K. now we are talking and thanks for the clarification. Crossing at Hollywood going towards 3rd Rd, on the left. But the place isn't really name Korean Garden? The sign just before the curve on the right says " Inside Garden resort " as you drive up in front on the left there are a few more signs with the restaurant being outside of the and the sign says now " inside resort with the Korean word below that is the word restaurant "
Reading your reports and having a good time I could understand how the mistake could be made. As noted I go by and know this area pretty well and the majority of guys would not even think about this location if they don't know how to get around might be afraid of the location. Kudos to you!
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Honey sopie
I went to the Honey sopie. Like you guys wrote here most of the girls are in their late twenties. You can chose between two prices, 1800 for girls with blue tag and 1500 for girls with red tag, but I really did not understand the difference, mostly girls look the same, not big difference between blue and red. Thai strange way of thinking.
Anyway I choose a blue, do not remember the number, she was about 28-29 years old and with not bad attitude [the only thing is that I thought she had a piercing on the tongue, but I saw wrong (].
About the service I have to divide my comments in two parts. The first is about the massage, which was really super, no hurry and really good technique. The second part takes place in the bed, but was nothing special, covered BJ and mechanical sex. Everything lasts about one hour and a half, the rooms are very elegant and clean (also my girl was fanatic about cleaness. Maybe that's way she refused uncovered BJ).
In conclusion I don't know if I would suggest this place, too much money related to the service you receive. Hope had been useful, take care.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Easy to boast, but you got to show pics to prove it![/QUOTE]
Pictures would be interesting, indeed, even though (and fortunately), we, punters, don't always have the same taste in women and what is an 8 or a 9 for him might be only an average looking girl for you or me.
I wrote it previously, people who have not been there very often yet are usually a lot more easy to please (regarding the beauty of the girls) than the long-term residents whose tastes tend to be more and more similar to those of the local (Asian) guys after they have already stayed long enough in this country.
I would not say that quality can not be found in Pattaya, Bangkok or other touristic destinations, but it's (on average) more difficult than in the past, and you are more likely to find the most beautiful girls in the Thai-oriented places (in the local brothels, for instance) than at the P4P locations patronized by the foreigners.
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[QUOTE=Chicob]The second part takes place in the bed, but was nothing special, covered BJ and mechanical sex. [/QUOTE]
I'm starting to hear more cbj experiences in Pattaya these days. I had one girl recently from super girls insist on it. Hopefully it won't become a trend in Pat.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Easy to boast, but you got to show pics to prove it![/QUOTE]You have a point, but I swear to Venus. Never anymore without a camera then!
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Re: Overnight boat trip
[QUOTE=Figures]...would like to take a couple of GFE types with me for an overnight boating trip to a nearby island. Want to stay on the boat at night but swim and play on the island during the day. Anyone know of a tour operator that has a nice big boat made for this sort of tour? A web address would be really helpful if anyone knows of one.[/QUOTE]
Was searching almost a year back, couldn't afford so no firsthand experience:
[url]http://www.boatrentalsthailand.com/[/url]
[url]http://www.secretspattaya.com/luxury-yacht/[/url]
[url]http://www.learn-in-asia.com/charter_catamaran.htm[/url]
[url]http://marinedirectory.ybw.com/Marine_Directory/company_details.jsp?tem=ybw&co_id=11814[/url]
[url]http://www.gulfchartersthailand.com/Sailing_Thailand_Charters.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.happycharter.com/en/show-boat/all-yachts/yacht-charter/1/xx_ct_c/th/[/url]
Asking at the Bali Hai pier (with a local wingman) should yield better catch.
Note: Check your travel insurance - mine didn't cover.
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Hello,
Could you suggest a place in BKK or Pattaya where I can get two girls for a threesome, but I want them lesbian (or acting as.) to have them making out with each other and of course me?
Something like 2 hrs service would be great, any idea baout the cost?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm starting to hear more cbj experiences in Pattaya these days. I had one girl recently from super girls insist on it. Hopefully it won't become a trend in Pat.[/QUOTE]
Will I have to change my username?:p
I can't blame them - it may help them live longer.
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Rtff
[QUOTE=Martin00]Hello,
Could you suggest a place in BKK or Pattaya where I can get two girls for a threesome, but I want them lesbian (or acting as.) to have them making out with each other and of course me?
Something like 2 hrs service would be great, any idea baout the cost?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Bangkok: Eden Club
Pattaya: Devils Den
Google them and you will find a website. Devils Den has their own website with prices and profiles.
We will be expecting a detailed report.
Seacrest out!
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If anyone is around I'll be arriving in Pats late Saturday night.
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Levitra
Today I discovered, after a short reserch in Internet, that levitra pills sold in some pharmacies in Pattaya for 1000/1200 bath are fake! The prove is that on the aluminum that contains the pills there isn't the anti falsification write that appears or dissapears moving it under a light (this is a sistem introduced by Bayer in 2006 so it is impossible that is not applied also in these packages). I don't know the effects of the fake pills, because I did not try them jet (and actually I do not know if I will), but I think it is important to know they are not an original product.
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[QUOTE=Martin00]Hello,
Could you suggest a place in BKK or Pattaya where I can get two girls for a threesome, but I want them lesbian (or acting as.) to have them making out with each other and of course me?
Something like 2 hrs service would be great, any idea baout the cost?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Could you get a comparable level of service from a couple of girls at a Soi 6 bar?
As much as I love DD and Eden I want to try branching out a little.
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[QUOTE=Chicob]Today I discovered, after a short reserch in Internet, that levitra pills sold in some pharmacies in Pattaya for 1000/1200 bath are fake! The prove is that on the aluminum that contains the pills there isn't the anti falsification write that appears or dissapears moving it under a light (this is a sistem introduced by Bayer in 2006 so it is impossible that is not applied also in these packages). I don't know the effects of the fake pills, because I did not try them jet (and actually I do not know if I will), but I think it is important to know they are not an original product.[/QUOTE]
Just back home after a trip to Pattaya.
Tried to get some Ciallis from a pharmacy in front of Lek Hotel.
Was asked for 1920b for the real thing... or 100 for a pack of so called ''copy''.
Didn't buy any...
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[QUOTE=Booey]Bangkok: Eden Club
Pattaya: Devils Den
Google them and you will find a website. Devils Den has their own website with prices and profiles.
We will be expecting a detailed report.
Seacrest out![/QUOTE]Chekcing both websites, I think I prefer Eden Club...looks less business oriented and I like the location Sukhumvit! :-) Will try that one.
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6 great nights!
Thursday
After checking in to the Penthouse I headed out to one of the small bars near the hotel looking for my favorite Mamasan; she was no longer working there as of 5 years ago (so I was told). So I thought I might have been in the wrong bar, so I decided to go to the next one; not there either. But who was there was one of the smallest, sweetest, and cutest ladies I had the pleasure of running into; her name was Dang. After spending 15 minutes with her, I knew I would like to spend more time with her. I paid her LT barfine (1600bt) and off we went. First stop, I wanted to go to Food Land to stock up on wine and champagne.
Once back in the room, I let Mr. Bubble perform his magic in the jacuzzi. Dang has never seen a jacuzzi, no less Mr. Bubbles’ magic and seemed a bit nervous as the bubbles grew higher and higher, but once in, she giggled and played with the bubbles like a little girl. It was moments like this when I kick myself in the ass for staying away from Pattaya for 6 years. Off to the big bed with mirrors everywhere. Sometime during the festivities, Pattaya lost power in my area, which seemed like 1.5 to 2 hours – she napped a bit, and I watched her nap; life was good.
Went to the Beer Garden for dinner, because that’s where she wanted to go. All of my trips to Pattaya, I have never been there; somehow I missed it. After dinner, Dang wanted to go back to the room to explore the swing and dance pole; couldn’t say no to that.
Friday
Dang and I woke up at 9:30 and there was one hell of a rainstorm going on. She left around 11; diamond in the rough indeed.
Stopped by Dang’s bar and told her it was “boy night out”, she said no problem. Because of my room, I was offered a free bottle of champagne at the Kitten Club. The club has change quite a bit. The club is now ½ ladyboys and ½ ladies. I sat on the lady side and enjoyed the champagne and the hot ladies. BTW, the Kitten Club and Obsessions are the same club; two different doors, but the same club inside, just depends on your taste what side you sit on. Off to other gogo bars.
First stop was the Peppermint for the 59bt happy hour. The place was packed and full of wonderful ass eye candy. On to Baccara, I love this place – sat in one of the big chairs and enjoyed life. The next place was the Cavern – nicely done with a great selection of ladies. A did a couple of open bars for a bit (happy hour was finished) and was headed down walking street towards X-zone and heard my name, it turned out to be one of the guys that was on both planes with me; Mike.
The X-zone, what a great recommendation! I have never been to a bar where I was fisting women and getting my cock sucked within two hours. I had a fucken blast in this place. One of the main performers latched on to me as soon as I walked in the place and she kept me in tow until short time was finished. She turned out to be a portable ice machine as well, I know because she kept refreshing my mix drink. I must admit that Mike and I did drop some bucks in this place. Between the performers, servers, Mamasan, Mike, and I, my guess is that blew through 60-70 shots of tequila. The lady that latched on to me was completely buck wild. She had blonde streaks though her hair; don’t recall her name. After her stage show, she dragged me into one of the booths and decided to suck me in between shots; no problem. Momasan moved her to the back stage and she made sure I would follow; and I did. She did some more sucking back there and told me she would spend 3 hours with me for short time; I told her it would not take that long. I questioned myself briefly; do I want to short time a girl that I fisted and had multiple fingers in her ass for several minutes; fuck yeah!!! I came across this stunner and pulled her over to talk to Mike; he was gone shortly thereafter. Short time was 1000bt for the girl, 800 for bar, and 200 for the room. Tequila drunk Mamasan waved the room charge. The room I went to was directly behind the back stage with a large wide window with a curtain that could be opened to view what was going on in the bar. We opened the curtain a bit, but I had my hands full with one of the wildest women I have ever been with.
After that, Mike and I headed to Dang’s bar and it was near closing time. So after a couple of drinks, Mike headed back to his hotel in Jomtiem, but I was not ready for bed. I noticed that Sin Bin bar was still open and got there about 2:30 (like I needed more drinks). So I decided to have another drink; the sailor still strives inside me. It is quite interesting to sit at a table with 5 drunken Thai women; I now had 5 Thai girlfriends. OMG, things just got silly only after a couple of rounds. It appeared that they all wanted to practice their kissing skills; no problem. I don’t remember one name from that table, which I sat at until 4:30, or any other woman I met during that night. I do remember that it was one hell of a night!
Saturday
Easy day was overdue; I needed it bad. Picked up Dang and headed to Jomtiem Beach. Mike met up with us and we started planning the next night out. Back to the room for more jacuzzi/bubble operations. Later that evening we headed to Cabbages & Condoms restaurant at the Birds & Bees Resort. We got one to the tree deck tables with a great ocean view. The restaurants are a huge part of their communities and somehow or another, they provide great Thai food for a reasonable price. We had 4 mixed drinks, 2 appetizers, and 2 main dishes for less than 1200bk.
Got dropped off near walking street and decided to walk off some of the food. I asked her if she wanted to check out a gogo bar; she played along. Wasn’t her thing; go figure. So we finished our drinks and headed back to the room for more jacuzzi/bubble operations.
Sunday
Lazy morning and afternoon. Told Dang it was “Boy night out” again; she said no problem. She asked if she could stay in my room instead of working in the bar; I said no problem as well. Met Mike at the beer garden, had a couple of drinks and off we went. Stopped at the Airport first and it was near the shift change and the sharks were hungry; asking for drinks and donations which got old quickly. Mike has never been to Baccara, so we stopped there next. We sat in the big chairs and watched the shift change. For 59bt a drink, we were not in any hurry. Once things got going, Mike and I came to an agreement; these were some of the hottest dances we had seen thus far. Then one dancer came in the rotation and she was a “dancer.” She worked that pole and worked up Mike and me as well. I figured she was getting thirsty, so I brought her over for a drink. Her name is Oil and she is 27, looked 22 at the most. Mike and I spotted another hottie, who looked thirsty as well; we brought her over as well. A great time at Baccara. Off to Happy!
I was also impressed in the quality of girls at Happy. A lady drink is 105bt, I guess throughout the night. A couple of hotties came off the stage and Mike and I directed them to our two extra chairs. Mine, no English and only the third day on the job, not a great figure, but a stunning face. Mike went more for the body and his lady had a great one to boot. Another thing I really like about the place is that the girls take their sweet time drinking their refreshing tonic water; no hurry whatsoever. There were two dancers that took the stage on the back poles and I got worn out just watching these ladies-they were extremely hot dancers; unlike I have ever seen in SEA. Guys were trying to buy them drinks before that reached the second pole. They kept on dancing through the entire pole rotation; the energy level was incredible!
All horned up, headed back to the X-zone. My buck wild lady was not there, but fear not, there were a couple of others. I used the same condom for the second fisting (her friend I guess), and while in mid stroke, the condom exploded. Not just opening on one end, but literally exploding into several pieces. This was a bad sign; did not go with her. Instead, I went with Mike’s recommendation, the lady he had a couple of nights ago. Her name is Tak; very hot in the club and in the sack! Came out of the short time room; lost Mike.
I still wanted to hit a couple of recommend places, so I started with What’s Up. The place has a great look and nice feel about it; had a drink and then off to the Beach. I agree with other ISG members, there were a lot of young hotties in that place. Decided on one more bar before calling it a night, off to the Windmill. A tad similar to X-zone, but the Windmill had a lot of drink seeking sharks. I was approached by 6-7 women that either wanted a soda, orange juice, or something other than a beer or mixed drink. There was a bell hanging next to one of the stages with a sign that stated if the bell is rung, 1000bt would buy a round for all the ladies. I learned the drink was tequila and it appeared some did not care for tequila. So even though I was tempted to ring the bell, the temptation passed and instead I left.
Monday and Tuesday were R&R days with Dang. Took her to Tiger Zoo, and even though I thought it was a bit lame; she loved the place. Monday evening we walked to Ruen Thai Restaurant. I have always like that place and always had a good meal there. She enjoyed the food, as well as the Thai classical band and dancers. Dang and I still had a whole bottle of Mr. Bubble left, so plenty of jacuzzi/bubble operations during the last couple of days.
All and all, it was one of the best trips I have ever made to LOS. I got to experience more of the culture, watching some of the hottest dancers in SEA, playing with some naughty ladies, and had the best GFE since I was stationed in Subic Bay in the late 1980s. I will not wait another 6 years to return!
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Great report
[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Thursday
After checking in to the Penthouse I headed out to one of the small bars near the hotel looking for my favorite Mamasan; she was no longer working there as of 5 years ago (so I was told). So I thought I might have been in the wrong bar, so I decided to go to the next one; not there either. But who was there was one of the smallest, sweetest, and cutest ladies I had the pleasure of running into; her name was Dang. After spending 15 minutes with her, I knew I would like to spend more time with her. I paid her LT barfine (1600bt) and off we went. First stop, I wanted to go to Food Land to stock up on wine and champagne.
Once back in the room, I let Mr. Bubble perform his magic in the jacuzzi. Dang has never seen a jacuzzi, no less Mr. Bubbles’ magic and seemed a bit nervous as the bubbles grew higher and higher, but once in, she giggled and played with the bubbles like a little girl. It was moments like this when I kick myself in the ass for staying away from Pattaya for 6 years. Off to the big bed with mirrors everywhere. Sometime during the festivities, Pattaya lost power in my area, which seemed like 1.5 to 2 hours – she napped a bit, and I watched her nap; life was good.
Went to the Beer Garden for dinner, because that’s where she wanted to go. All of my trips to Pattaya, I have never been there; somehow I missed it. After dinner, Dang wanted to go back to the room to explore the swing and dance pole; couldn’t say no to that.
Friday
Dang and I woke up at 9:30 and there was one hell of a rainstorm going on. She left around 11; diamond in the rough indeed.
Stopped by Dang’s bar and told her it was “boy night out”, she said no problem. Because of my room, I was offered a free bottle of champagne at the Kitten Club. The club has change quite a bit. The club is now ½ ladyboys and ½ ladies. I sat on the lady side and enjoyed the champagne and the hot ladies. BTW, the Kitten Club and Obsessions are the same club; two different doors, but the same club inside, just depends on your taste what side you sit on. Off to other gogo bars.
First stop was the Peppermint for the 59bt happy hour. The place was packed and full of wonderful ass eye candy. On to Baccara, I love this place – sat in one of the big chairs and enjoyed life. The next place was the Cavern – nicely done with a great selection of ladies. A did a couple of open bars for a bit (happy hour was finished) and was headed down walking street towards X-zone and heard my name, it turned out to be one of the guys that was on both planes with me; Mike.
The X-zone, what a great recommendation! I have never been to a bar where I was fisting women and getting my cock sucked within two hours. I had a fucken blast in this place. One of the main performers latched on to me as soon as I walked in the place and she kept me in tow until short time was finished. She turned out to be a portable ice machine as well, I know because she kept refreshing my mix drink. I must admit that Mike and I did drop some bucks in this place. Between the performers, servers, Mamasan, Mike, and I, my guess is that blew through 60-70 shots of tequila. The lady that latched on to me was completely buck wild. She had blonde streaks though her hair; don’t recall her name. After her stage show, she dragged me into one of the booths and decided to suck me in between shots; no problem. Momasan moved her to the back stage and she made sure I would follow; and I did. She did some more sucking back there and told me she would spend 3 hours with me for short time; I told her it would not take that long. I questioned myself briefly; do I want to short time a girl that I fisted and had multiple fingers in her ass for several minutes; fuck yeah!!! I came across this stunner and pulled her over to talk to Mike; he was gone shortly thereafter. Short time was 1000bt for the girl, 800 for bar, and 200 for the room. Tequila drunk Mamasan waved the room charge. The room I went to was directly behind the back stage with a large wide window with a curtain that could be opened to view what was going on in the bar. We opened the curtain a bit, but I had my hands full with one of the wildest women I have ever been with.
After that, Mike and I headed to Dang’s bar and it was near closing time. So after a couple of drinks, Mike headed back to his hotel in Jomtiem, but I was not ready for bed. I noticed that Sin Bin bar was still open and got there about 2:30 (like I needed more drinks). So I decided to have another drink; the sailor still strives inside me. It is quite interesting to sit at a table with 5 drunken Thai women; I now had 5 Thai girlfriends. OMG, things just got silly only after a couple of rounds. It appeared that they all wanted to practice their kissing skills; no problem. I don’t remember one name from that table, which I sat at until 4:30, or any other woman I met during that night. I do remember that it was one hell of a night!
Saturday
Easy day was overdue; I needed it bad. Picked up Dang and headed to Jomtiem Beach. Mike met up with us and we started planning the next night out. Back to the room for more jacuzzi/bubble operations. Later that evening we headed to Cabbages & Condoms restaurant at the Birds & Bees Resort. We got one to the tree deck tables with a great ocean view. The restaurants are a huge part of their communities and somehow or another, they provide great Thai food for a reasonable price. We had 4 mixed drinks, 2 appetizers, and 2 main dishes for less than 1200bk.
Got dropped off near walking street and decided to walk off some of the food. I asked her if she wanted to check out a gogo bar; she played along. Wasn’t her thing; go figure. So we finished our drinks and headed back to the room for more jacuzzi/bubble operations.
Sunday
Lazy morning and afternoon. Told Dang it was “Boy night out” again; she said no problem. She asked if she could stay in my room instead of working in the bar; I said no problem as well. Met Mike at the beer garden, had a couple of drinks and off we went. Stopped at the Airport first and it was near the shift change and the sharks were hungry; asking for drinks and donations which got old quickly. Mike has never been to Baccara, so we stopped there next. We sat in the big chairs and watched the shift change. For 59bt a drink, we were not in any hurry. Once things got going, Mike and I came to an agreement; these were some of the hottest dances we had seen thus far. Then one dancer came in the rotation and she was a “dancer.” She worked that pole and worked up Mike and me as well. I figured she was getting thirsty, so I brought her over for a drink. Her name is Oil and she is 27, looked 22 at the most. Mike and I spotted another hottie, who looked thirsty as well; we brought her over as well. A great time at Baccara. Off to Happy!
I was also impressed in the quality of girls at Happy. A lady drink is 105bt, I guess throughout the night. A couple of hotties came off the stage and Mike and I directed them to our two extra chairs. Mine, no English and only the third day on the job, not a great figure, but a stunning face. Mike went more for the body and his lady had a great one to boot. Another thing I really like about the place is that the girls take their sweet time drinking their refreshing tonic water; no hurry whatsoever. There were two dancers that took the stage on the back poles and I got worn out just watching these ladies-they were extremely hot dancers; unlike I have ever seen in SEA. Guys were trying to buy them drinks before that reached the second pole. They kept on dancing through the entire pole rotation; the energy level was incredible!
All horned up, headed back to the X-zone. My buck wild lady was not there, but fear not, there were a couple of others. I used the same condom for the second fisting (her friend I guess), and while in mid stroke, the condom exploded. Not just opening on one end, but literally exploding into several pieces. This was a bad sign; did not go with her. Instead, I went with Mike’s recommendation, the lady he had a couple of nights ago. Her name is Tak; very hot in the club and in the sack! Came out of the short time room; lost Mike.
I still wanted to hit a couple of recommend places, so I started with What’s Up. The place has a great look and nice feel about it; had a drink and then off to the Beach. I agree with other ISG members, there were a lot of young hotties in that place. Decided on one more bar before calling it a night, off to the Windmill. A tad similar to X-zone, but the Windmill had a lot of drink seeking sharks. I was approached by 6-7 women that either wanted a soda, orange juice, or something other than a beer or mixed drink. There was a bell hanging next to one of the stages with a sign that stated if the bell is rung, 1000bt would buy a round for all the ladies. I learned the drink was tequila and it appeared some did not care for tequila. So even though I was tempted to ring the bell, the temptation passed and instead I left.
Monday and Tuesday were R&R days with Dang. Took her to Tiger Zoo, and even though I thought it was a bit lame; she loved the place. Monday evening we walked to Ruen Thai Restaurant. I have always like that place and always had a good meal there. She enjoyed the food, as well as the Thai classical band and dancers. Dang and I still had a whole bottle of Mr. Bubble left, so plenty of jacuzzi/bubble operations during the last couple of days.
All and all, it was one of the best trips I have ever made to LOS. I got to experience more of the culture, watching some of the hottest dancers in SEA, playing with some naughty ladies, and had the best GFE since I was stationed in Subic Bay in the late 1980s. I will not wait another 6 years to return![/QUOTE]A great report at all, so you can see that with an open mind and not care about attitude everything is possible in LOS,
Enjoyed your report
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Thursday
After checking in to the Penthouse I headed out...
All and all, it was one of the best trips I have ever made to LOS. I got to experience more of the culture, watching some of the hottest dancers in SEA, playing with some naughty ladies, and had the best GFE since I was stationed in Subic Bay in the late 1980s. I will not wait another 6 years to return![/QUOTE]
Excellent report! Fun to read, positive, and informative.
Always nice to read about a fellow ISGer's good time in TH!
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[QUOTE=Martin00]Chekcing both websites, I think I prefer Eden Club. Looks less business oriented and I like the location Sukhumvit! Will try that one.[/QUOTE]Have been to both places. Thought the girls were better at Devil's Den. But do remember that action at both places can be a little too mechanical.
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Cialis Apcalis
[QUOTE=Chicob]Today I discovered, after a short reserch in Internet, that levitra pills sold in some pharmacies in Pattaya for 1000/1200 bath are fake! The prove is that on the aluminum that contains the pills there isn't the anti falsification write that appears or dissapears moving it under a light (this is a sistem introduced by Bayer in 2006 so it is impossible that is not applied also in these packages). I don't know the effects of the fake pills, because I did not try them jet (and actually I do not know if I will), but I think it is important to know they are not an original product.[/QUOTE]I have bought boxes (4 pills) of Apcalis ( taladafil as cialis) in the parmacy Soi 8, 400B each box. No problem!
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[CodeWord901]'s pattaya
i am going over again in october for another tour of duty,and being a little bit of an exhibitionist,i was wondering if you can get a bj in the bar or on the lounges downstairs in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] while listening to the music.
any replies welcome.i know where i can get it elsewhere but just curious about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Thursday
It was moments like this when I kick myself in the ass for staying away from Pattaya for 6 years. . . Went to the Beer Garden for dinner, because that’s where she wanted to go. All of my trips to Pattaya, I have never been there; somehow I missed it.[/QUOTE]
Good reason you never had been to PBG, as it was opened just 2 years ago. A favorite of many because of the great view of the water and a huge, reasonably priced menu. The ladies always seem to like it because of the thai items on the menu. Great TR. . . Thanks.
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Dollar,
I tried to send you a private message, but it didn't appear to go through.
Can you be more specific as to where the pharmacy is on Soi 8? I. E. South side or north side. Closer to Beach or 2nd or name of the pharmacy?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Dollar]I have bought boxes (4 pills) of Apcalis ( taladafil as cialis) in the parmacy Soi 8, 400B each box. No problem![/QUOTE]
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re: [CodeWord901]'s pattaya
[quote=mr enforcer]...i was wondering if you can get a bj in the bar or on the lounges downstairs in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] while listening to the music.[/quote]
yes...hardly an audience, depending on the time of day.
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in the public
[quote=mr enforcer]i am going over again in october for another tour of duty,and being a little bit of an exhibitionist,i was wondering if you can get a bj in the bar or on the lounges downstairs in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] while listening to the music.
any replies welcome.i know where i can get it elsewhere but just curious about [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url].[/quote]to mr enforcer,
i been there many time just last week never see anyone get bj downstair before, i am sure is avalible try ann and bee last week great bbbj cim.
fast eddie 48
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What's up agogo:
Visited here in February and April and I thought it was the best gogo in Thailand. Some very attractive girls without bad attitudes, lots of entertainment, well-run and enjoyable to spend some time in.
Visited again last week and was pretty disappointed. Lots of ugly girls, and just a much worse vibe than before. What happened? Did a mamasan leave?
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Thursday
After checking in to the Penthouse I headed out to one of the small bars near the hotel looking for my favorite Mamasan; she was no longer working there as of 5 years ago (so I was told). So I thought I might have been in the wrong bar, so I decided to go to the next one; not there either. But who was there was one of the smallest, sweetest, and cutest ladies I had the pleasure of running into; her name was Dang. After spending 15 minutes with her, I knew I would like to spend more time with her. I paid her LT barfine (1600bt) and off we went. First stop, I wanted to go to Food Land to stock up on wine and champagne.
Once back in the room, I let Mr. Bubble perform his magic in the jacuzzi. Dang has never seen a jacuzzi, no less Mr. Bubbles' magic and seemed a bit nervous as the bubbles grew higher and higher, but once in, she giggled and played with the bubbles like a little girl. It was moments like this when I kick myself in the ass for staying away from Pattaya for 6 years. Off to the big bed with mirrors everywhere. Sometime during the festivities, Pattaya lost power in my area, which seemed like 1. 5 to 2 hours – she napped a bit, and I watched her nap; life was good.
Went to the Beer Garden for dinner, because that's where she wanted to go. All of my trips to Pattaya, I have never been there; somehow I missed it. After dinner, Dang wanted to go back to the room to explore the swing and dance pole; couldn't say no to that.
Friday
Dang and I woke up at 9:30 and there was one hell of a rainstorm going on. She left around 11; diamond in the rough indeed.
Stopped by Dang's bar and told her it was "boy night out", she said no problem. Because of my room, I was offered a free bottle of champagne at the Kitten Club. The club has change quite a bit. The club is now ½ ladyboys and ½ ladies. I sat on the lady side and enjoyed the champagne and the hot ladies. BTW, the Kitten Club and Obsessions are the same club; two different doors, but the same club inside, just depends on your taste what side you sit on. Off to other gogo bars.
First stop was the Peppermint for the 59bt happy hour. The place was packed and full of wonderful ass eye candy. On to Baccara, I love this place – sat in one of the big chairs and enjoyed life. The next place was the Cavern – nicely done with a great selection of ladies. A did a couple of open bars for a bit (happy hour was finished) and was headed down walking street towards X-zone and heard my name, it turned out to be one of the guys that was on both planes with me; Mike.
The X-zone, what a great recommendation! I have never been to a bar where I was fisting women and getting my cock sucked within two hours. I had a fucken blast in this place. One of the main performers latched on to me as soon as I walked in the place and she kept me in tow until short time was finished. She turned out to be a portable ice machine as well, I know because she kept refreshing my mix drink. I must admit that Mike and I did drop some bucks in this place. Between the performers, servers, Mamasan, Mike, and I, my guess is that blew through 60-70 shots of tequila. The lady that latched on to me was completely buck wild. She had blonde streaks though her hair; don't recall her name. After her stage show, she dragged me into one of the booths and decided to suck me in between shots; no problem. Momasan moved her to the back stage and she made sure I would follow; and I did. She did some more sucking back there and told me she would spend 3 hours with me for short time; I told her it would not take that long. I questioned myself briefly; do I want to short time a girl that I fisted and had multiple fingers in her ass for several minutes; fuck yeah! I came across this stunner and pulled her over to talk to Mike; he was gone shortly thereafter. Short time was 1000bt for the girl, 800 for bar, and 200 for the room. Tequila drunk Mamasan waved the room charge. The room I went to was directly behind the back stage with a large wide window with a curtain that could be opened to view what was going on in the bar. We opened the curtain a bit, but I had my hands full with one of the wildest women I have ever been with.
After that, Mike and I headed to Dang's bar and it was near closing time. So after a couple of drinks, Mike headed back to his hotel in Jomtiem, but I was not ready for bed. I noticed that Sin Bin bar was still open and got there about 2:30 (like I needed more drinks). So I decided to have another drink; the sailor still strives inside me. It is quite interesting to sit at a table with 5 drunken Thai women; I now had 5 Thai girlfriends. OMG, things just got silly only after a couple of rounds. It appeared that they all wanted to practice their kissing skills; no problem. I don't remember one name from that table, which I sat at until 4:30, or any other woman I met during that night. I do remember that it was one hell of a night!
Saturday
Easy day was overdue; I needed it bad. Picked up Dang and headed to Jomtiem Beach. Mike met up with us and we started planning the next night out. Back to the room for more jacuzzi/bubble operations. Later that evening we headed to Cabbages & Condoms restaurant at the Birds & Bees Resort. We got one to the tree deck tables with a great ocean view. The restaurants are a huge part of their communities and somehow or another, they provide great Thai food for a reasonable price. We had 4 mixed drinks, 2 appetizers, and 2 main dishes for less than 1200bk.
Got dropped off near walking street and decided to walk off some of the food. I asked her if she wanted to check out a gogo bar; she played along. Wasn't her thing; go figure. So we finished our drinks and headed back to the room for more jacuzzi/bubble operations.
Sunday
Lazy morning and afternoon. Told Dang it was "Boy night out" again; she said no problem. She asked if she could stay in my room instead of working in the bar; I said no problem as well. Met Mike at the beer garden, had a couple of drinks and off we went. Stopped at the Airport first and it was near the shift change and the sharks were hungry; asking for drinks and donations which got old quickly. Mike has never been to Baccara, so we stopped there next. We sat in the big chairs and watched the shift change. For 59bt a drink, we were not in any hurry. Once things got going, Mike and I came to an agreement; these were some of the hottest dances we had seen thus far. Then one dancer came in the rotation and she was a "dancer. " She worked that pole and worked up Mike and me as well. I figured she was getting thirsty, so I brought her over for a drink. Her name is Oil and she is 27, looked 22 at the most. Mike and I spotted another hottie, who looked thirsty as well; we brought her over as well. A great time at Baccara. Off to Happy!
I was also impressed in the quality of girls at Happy. A lady drink is 105bt, I guess throughout the night. A couple of hotties came off the stage and Mike and I directed them to our two extra chairs. Mine, no English and only the third day on the job, not a great figure, but a stunning face. Mike went more for the body and his lady had a great one to boot. Another thing I really like about the place is that the girls take their sweet time drinking their refreshing tonic water; no hurry whatsoever. There were two dancers that took the stage on the back poles and I got worn out just watching these ladies-they were extremely hot dancers; unlike I have ever seen in SEA. Guys were trying to buy them drinks before that reached the second pole. They kept on dancing through the entire pole rotation; the energy level was incredible!
All horned up, headed back to the X-zone. My buck wild lady was not there, but fear not, there were a couple of others. I used the same condom for the second fisting (her friend I guess), and while in mid stroke, the condom exploded. Not just opening on one end, but literally exploding into several pieces. This was a bad sign; did not go with her. Instead, I went with Mike's recommendation, the lady he had a couple of nights ago. Her name is Tak; very hot in the club and in the sack! Came out of the short time room; lost Mike.
I still wanted to hit a couple of recommend places, so I started with What's Up. The place has a great look and nice feel about it; had a drink and then off to the Beach. I agree with other ISG members, there were a lot of young hotties in that place. Decided on one more bar before calling it a night, off to the Windmill. A tad similar to X-zone, but the Windmill had a lot of drink seeking sharks. I was approached by 6-7 women that either wanted a soda, orange juice, or something other than a beer or mixed drink. There was a bell hanging next to one of the stages with a sign that stated if the bell is rung, 1000bt would buy a round for all the ladies. I learned the drink was tequila and it appeared some did not care for tequila. So even though I was tempted to ring the bell, the temptation passed and instead I left.
Monday and Tuesday were R&R days with Dang. Took her to Tiger Zoo, and even though I thought it was a bit lame; she loved the place. Monday evening we walked to Ruen Thai Restaurant. I have always like that place and always had a good meal there. She enjoyed the food, as well as the Thai classical band and dancers. Dang and I still had a whole bottle of Mr. Bubble left, so plenty of jacuzzi/bubble operations during the last couple of days.
All and all, it was one of the best trips I have ever made to LOS. I got to experience more of the culture, watching some of the hottest dancers in SEA, playing with some naughty ladies, and had the best GFE since I was stationed in Subic Bay in the late 1980s. I will not wait another 6 years to return![/QUOTE]Tomjackin, just wanted to thank you for a great read. I am in the process of making my vacation dates and was thinking about Penthouse Hotel. Also, thanks for mentioning some of the establishments you went to whether it was a gogo or resturant. You gave a newbie such as myself some helpful information and it's much appreciated.
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Things change
What you have to realize is that the quality of the gogo's change all the time.
Best to check to see what the current status is.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Evianist]What's up agogo:
Visited here in February and April and I thought it was the best gogo in Thailand. Some very attractive girls without bad attitudes, lots of entertainment, well-run and enjoyable to spend some time in.
Visited again last week and was pretty disappointed. Lots of ugly girls, and just a much worse vibe than before. What happened? Did a mamasan leave?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Evianist]What's up agogo:
Visited here in February and April and I thought it was the best gogo in Thailand. Some very attractive girls without bad attitudes, lots of entertainment, well-run and enjoyable to spend some time in.
Visited again last week and was pretty disappointed. Lots of ugly girls, and just a much worse vibe than before. What happened? Did a mamasan leave?[/QUOTE]
What's Up is probably the most overrated and mercenary go-go bar in Pattaya, and I will never visit the place again. The girls are OK ... it's the management that sucks.
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]To mr Enforcer,
I been there many time just last week never see anyone get BJ downstair before, I am sure is avalible try ann and bee last week great BBBJ cim.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Thanks Eddie. I had Bee give me a blowie in May and she knew what she was doing. Do you know if the girl called Katy on the website is a blowie girl or just the cashier?. She looks very nice. I would just like to go there one night and listen to the old English guy singing while I am having a beer and getting a BJ in the lounge. That is just my idea of fun, of course.
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gogos
[QUOTE=Daddy07]What's Up is probably the most overrated and mercenary go-go bar in Pattaya, and I will never visit the place again. The girls are OK. It's the management that sucks.[/QUOTE]There are many gogo bars in Pattaya, obviously. I like to check out some nice pussy once in a while.
But aside from baccara which has nice and comfy seating and a decent show too I would like to mention casanovy. I think it is often overlooked when coming in to walking street it is the second establishment of that sort on the right. They have nice girls dancing in the center isle pleasant music and good drought beer for 65 bt or so and overall good service. Check it out.
Another one of my favorites is club misty's which has very good looking girls and an overall friendly and open atmosphere but needs to be tried for a beer to appreciated, not many punters there maybe because of the blue lighting when you come in first.
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You Don't Need to Quote the Whole Report
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter]Tomjackin, just wanted to thank you for a great read. I am in the process of making my vacation dates and was thinking about Penthouse Hotel. Also, thanks for mentioning some of the establishments you went to whether it was a gogo or resturant. You gave a newbie such as myself some helpful information and it's much appreciated.[/QUOTE]You can cut out a bunch of the text instead of posting the long report all over again. Just make sure the "QUOTE=Beaverhunter" and "/QUOTE" are at the top and bottom. Save a little bandwidth and space.
Slim
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Fresh pattaya nightlife updates
[url]http://www.thai-anxiety.com/[/url]
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Can I get a review on Soi 6 bars, i.e., places where you had a good experience, names (if you have any) and, most importantly, places to avoid.
Thank you.
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Club Misty
[QUOTE=Islandboy54]Another one of my favorites is club misty's which has very good looking girls and an overall friendly and open atmosphere but needs to be tried for a beer to appreciated, not many punters there maybe because of the blue lighting when you come in first.[/QUOTE]It isn't so much the blue lighting on the way into Club Misty that's off-putting so much as the deafening techno/hip hop crap once you're in there. There are some good looking girls in the joint but personally I've never made it past the first drink before my bleeding ears have forced a retreat. If anyone from Club Misty is reading this and is remotely interested may I suggest a quick fix to the putting-bums-on-seats problem. Turn the f***in' music down, switch to tunes that don't alienate and cause internal bleeding to your core audience (say, anyone over 20 years old) and watch the baht roll in.
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Soi 6 updated
[QUOTE=Henryv]Can I get a review on Soi 6 bars, i.e., places where you had a good experience, names (if you have any) and, most importantly, places to avoid.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Henry,
I was at soi 6 a few week ago I did barfine a hot little cutie from issan for the night, I go to Pattaya twice a yr price of the girl is going up the bar want 500 bht for all night barfine the girl want 1200 bht and most hot one want 1500 bht and up, with the US dollar is so low 31. 8 for one dollar Pattaya is not a bargin any more, there are not many monger in Thailand right now most hotel is half full and you can get some deal.
Fast Eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Henry,
I was at soi 6 a few week ago I did barfine a hot little cutie from issan for the night, I go to Pattaya twice a yr price of the girl is going up the bar want 500 bht for all night barfine the girl want 1200 bht and most hot one want 1500 bht and up, with the US dollar is so low 31. 8 for one dollar Pattaya is not a bargin any more, there are not many monger in Thailand right now most hotel is half full and you can get some deal.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
I was under the impression Soi 6 was strictly on-site P4P. I spotted a few hotties on the soi, but did not indulge, as i didn't fancy the idead of spending a few hours in those dodgy rooms.
Had I known you can take-out I would have spent my entire holiday walking the Soi :-)
I'm off to Pattaya in October and will make a b-line for the street of shame.
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Visited Soi 6 two years ago and twice took a gal with me. Wend to a bar on Second Rd that has great music videos. Can't remember the name of it, was a block or two north of Soi 13/2.
But I digress, yes, if they agree, you can take girls with you.
[QUOTE=Chachi420]I was under the impression Soi 6 was strictly on-site P4P. I spotted a few hotties on the soi, but did not indulge, as i didn't fancy the idead of spending a few hours in those dodgy rooms.
Had I known you can take-out I would have spent my entire holiday walking the Soi :-)
I'm off to Pattaya in October and will make a b-line for the street of shame.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Henry,
I was at soi 6 a few week ago I did barfine a hot little cutie from issan for the night, I go to Pattaya twice a yr price of the girl is going up the bar want 500 bht for all night barfine the girl want 1200 bht and most hot one want 1500 bht and up, with the US dollar is so low 31. 8 for one dollar Pattaya is not a bargin any more, there are not many monger in Thailand right now most hotel is half full and you can get some deal.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
The 1200 and 1500 quotes were from soi6 bargirls for LT?
BEER BARS (not soi6) (18-21yo market):
I recently had one beer bar girl quote me 1500 ST and another 2000ST. Both were young an cute, but neither would budge on price. I've found that most beer bar girls will gladly go for 1000ST, but not so many will go for 500-700 anymore.
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[QUOTE=Doppel One].......Turn the f***in' music down, switch to tunes that don't alienate and cause internal bleeding to your core audience (say, anyone over 20 years old) and watch the baht roll in.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right about that, not that I would single out misty's for that but in general I think that the club managers are totally out of touch who actually comes to their places and shells out money as far as the music selection and volume is concerned. I remember going to country road on suk in Bankok just for that reason.
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[QUOTE=Showdown]I just cannot get enough of my big tits girl pussy in Pattaya. [/QUOTE]I saw big tits today about 12:30 on Beach Road. I told her that I wanted her for short time later. However, she does not have a phone. It's 6pm now and I'm going to go see if I can find her again. If not, I will go hit one of the back woods girls for 200. I am supposed to meet my gf at Central Festival at 6:30 for bowling but I'm going to call and tell her to make it 7.
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Warning
This post is for real mongers; meaning those that will fuck anything that moves, anywhere, at the drop of a hat. This is definitely not for those who have to be sitting up in an air-conditioned soapie or someone who is afraid of Beach Road. I had to go deep into the bowels of mongerdom to get this one. That's right. I finally mongered at the infamous "back woods" joint at the end of Walking Street that Goyave told us about. Now I can say that I've done it and there is no need to return.
When I arrived there wasn't a choice. There was only one person lying out under some trees on a mat with dogs (another showed up at the shack while we were doing the deed). And I do believe she may have come up with fleas. As soon as I drove up she popped to attention and asked if I wanted her. I told her yes and asked how much. She held up 3 fingers and I countered with 2 fingers. She agreed so I parked my motorbike in the grass and followed her down a dirt path past a couple of makeshift homes that were made with old boards and not much else.
When we arrived at her box/house she opened the door, kicked off her shoes and climbed inside. Not wanting to be rude I removed my shoes as well. We took our clothes off in the bedroom section where if you were kneeling then your head would almost be touching the ceiling. She immediately starting sucking my dick. And oh what good head it was. I had to stop her so that I could grab my camera out of my bag. I "asked" her if she mind if I took pictures. She happily obliged and went back to her job without skipping a beat. It seemed like there was only one thing on her mind. And that one thing was getting a hit of yaba.
I didn't want her to stop sucking me but in order to get my 200 baht worth I had to try her out in mish and doggy. After that I tried to hurry and give her a cumshot to the mouth because while she was feasting on my dick the mosquitoes were feasting on my ass...literally. I couldn't wait to get back to my apartment to detox my body after subjecting it to quite an experiment so after the last cum in mouth pictures I reached for my bag and pulled out 200 baht to give her.
She was out of that box so fast I honestly don't even remember seeing her get dressed. But I guess when yaba calls.... By now it was getting dark. I got dressed and found my way back up the path to my bike and rode off into the sunset.
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Mr Enternational,
Fantastic post and photos! Worthy of the Reports of Distinction thread.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]This post is for real mongers; meaning those that will fuck anything that moves, anywhere, at the drop of a hat
She was out of that box so fast I honestly don't even remember seeing her get dressed. But I guess when yaba calls. By now it was getting dark. I got dressed and found my way back up the path to my bike and rode off into the sunset.[/QUOTE] The Title of the report should be " Believe It or Not". Different strokes for different guys! I need to rush to the loo. I'm feeling Queasy!
No personal innuendos; but Mr E., you must be desperate!
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So only very bad looking girls over there?
Are they not allowed to reach the beach road?
Maybe there is the police doing some selection!
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wow!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]This post is for real mongers; meaning those that will fuck anything that moves,....I parked my motorbike in the grass ... I got dressed and found my way back up the path to my bike and rode off into the sunset.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that is like the docks in sihanoukville. Anyways your lucky it did not cost you 300.000 baht!! Very common to have your motorbike nicked, and never a trace to be found. your very lucky indeed!!!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
I didn't want her to stop sucking me but in order to get my 200 baht worth I had to try her out in mish and doggy. [/QUOTE]
Not so long ago I was suckered into purchasing a 180 baht ladies drink on Soi 8 so I appreciate a man who seeks and finds genuine value for money in Pattaya.
She's not quite the type you'd want to take back and introduce to the family, judging by her pic, but an experience no-doubt and a great report.
Thanks!
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Mr. Enternational is the man!
What an oustanding skank report. I hope you have been defuminigated by now, she has been treated for whatever she carries (that you, mercifully, may be spared of) and everything is hunky door. The things we do for love!
Her cum shot gave a pretty good idea of her degree of skankiness.
Not asking about hygienic standards, but her kitty looks inviting.
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OMG - We Have a Winner!!!!!
[QUOTE=Vittu]What an oustanding skank report. I hope you have been defuminigated by now, she has been treated for whatever she carries (that you, mercifully, may be spared of) and everything is hunky door. The things we do for love!
Her cum shot gave a pretty good idea of her degree of skankiness.
Not asking about hygienic standards, but her kitty looks inviting.[/QUOTE]
Now that's what they mean by "trickle down economics." Hope the clinic has something for that ___________________(fill in in about 3-days).
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I think Mr. E deserves standing "O" for actually being able to get it up in such abject conditions.
I think my dick would have grown legs and run off by itself.
:eek:
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I saw big tits today about 12:30 on Beach Road. I told her that I wanted her for short time later. However, she does not have a phone. It's 6pm now and I'm going to go see if I can find her again. If not, I will go hit one of the back woods girls for 200. I am supposed to meet my gf at Central Festival at 6:30 for bowling but I'm going to call and tell her to make it 7.[/QUOTE]
She's got a phone for sure. She called yesterday with one of those "sick buffalo and needs some money" stories that Thai girls tell. She didnt know you and thats maybe why she didnt give it to you. I'll ask her can I give her number to you.
WOW E. I like mongering with Beach Girls rather than go-go or MP girls because they are plainer and simpler but you went beyond even what I could do with this girl! Just looking at the sores on her face was enough to make me put on a condom just reading your report! God knows I hope you didnt BBBJ with this girl!
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Damn. I've had some questionable fucks in my time but nothing that nasty.... at least, as far as I can remember.
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Great Stuff
One of the best. This guy is really true to the sport. Monger On!
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Totally Radical!!!
[QUOTE=Undakovabrotha]One of the best. This guy is really true to the sport. Monger On![/QUOTE]The only thing I can think of to possibly out-do E-man is for somebody to eat her box w/pics. Any volunteers? Anyone?
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Sounds Inviting!!!
Not that I'm crawling over people to get there, but where is this place? Must be on the far-end (north) of beach road. Is it somewhere north of holiday Inn? I saw some shacks around there I think.
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Wonderful Report
Reminds me of the low dollar shacks in Pnom Penh. Gaps in the floor boards. No air circulation. Ya just have to love it.
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Wonderful Report
Reminds me of the low dollar shacks in Pnom Penh. Gaps in the floor boards. No air circulation. Ya just have to love it.
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Freebie
The day before yesterday my friend took me to a salon that he goes to for hair and nails. The girl who runs the salon (who is a definite stunner by the way..tall and thin...and I don't even like thin ladies. She looked so good that I actually thought she was a ladyboy for the first 45 minutes) took us to a massage parlor that she likes. When I first walked in I saw one girl of my dreams. She gave me a foot massage and I told her that I would call her when she finished work so we could go out together. As usual I happened to be in some other things and did not call her.
Last night I went bowling with my Thai gf who works at the hotel I used to stay at. While we were bowling she told me that she thinks she is in love with another guy. I played the sad role but of course it was no problem for a player like me. When we finished bowling I tried to take her to her house but she said she wanted to take me out for drinks. She kept asking but I continued to decline thinking that I would be free to head down to Walking Street later. It was 10:15pm when I dropped her off.
I headed to the massage parlor from the day before in order to get a nice massage and a nap before it was time to go to Walking Street. To make a long story short the girl from the massage place ended up coming back to the apartment with me after the massage. 43 years old, but my type. She stayed until it was time for her to go to work this morning. Net Cost: 0 baht!
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[QUOTE=Whankyou]Reminds me of the low dollar shacks in Pnom Penh. Gaps in the floor boards. No air circulation. Ya just have to love it.[/QUOTE]That will be my next feat. Probably in Feb or March. I am still laughing about the monger in the Cambodia thread who said he finished with the SP, then grabbed the mamasan and started fucking her. Then threw the condom against the wall and shot off on a rat that was running by...LOL
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Big Tits on Beach Road (Kwan)
My wingman and I had finished eating at KFC at Royal Garden about 11:30am. I wanted to take a walk down to Mike II to find a shirt I was looking for. We decided to walk down the beach side in order to see the ladies. We passed a group of 3 ladies but one had her back to me. My wingman said that he thought he knew her from before. We kept walking. Then it popped into his head. He said man that is the girl who you stopped to talked to yesterday. I said bullshit then we went back to go talk to her. It was definitely Kwan and who was she with. Her best bud that Showdown had taken as well.
I lied and said that I had come back for her yesterday but she was not there. She said that she had gone home. I told her that it was a must that I have her today. She said that she would be going home about 3pm. I guess she is Beach Road dayshift or something. My wingman and I continued to walk towards Mike's. We bought 2 shirts each then started to walk back to our bikes in front of Royal Garden.
Kwan and her friend were still there. Fuck it. I might as well make a deal right here and now. I probably won't feel like coming to find her later anyway. She started with 700. I countered with 500. Then I remembered the dike show that Showdown had mentioned and included her friend in on the negotiation. The sealed deal was 600 each for 1 hour pictures included. We were about to go back to the apartment when I opted to pay for the short time room instead. An extra 100 baht.
Then I thought that I had just finished fucking the girl at the massage parlor. I knew I didn't have enough power for 2 BR girls at the same time. So I pushed the friend off on my wingman. When we got to the room she immediately undressed and went to work. I couldn't resist grabbing her by the ears as she gave me head. The I put my dick on her chest and started to squeeze it between her breasts. We went through a gamut of positions and at the 20 minute mark she asked why I didn't cum yet. I told her that I was waiting for the hour mark. Then she insisted on using her mouth for the rest of the time. Who was I to argue. Besides it was much easier to use my camera that way. We finished with CIM.
I guess my wingman finished up at the same time because when we got out of the shower they were coming out of their room. His girl was complaining because he only gave her 500. I told her that is because he didn't take fotos and he doesn't even have a camera. But I told her that if she wanted to get back undressed and let me take a few snapshots then I would gladly give her the extra 100 baht. Mai pen rai. It was no big deal. After my girl was paid they were in the wind. When my wingman and I left out of the hotel there was no sight of them in either direction for at least 100 meters.
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Mr E was obviously desperate last night when he went down to the woods. With only 1 girl (skank) what was he to do. Any pussy is better than none when in his state!
I have visited the woods many times over the years, and the selection varies enormously. From skanks, fatties, addicts, ladyboys, grandmothers and the occasional diamond. I have only taken the diamonds (many in fact), and rather than go up the hill in the open, or to a nearby shack, I have always gone to a nearby short-time room (100bt), when after showering each other, it's been down to business - and always very good.
Anyway well done Mr E. Rather you than me under those circumstances, but you certainly got value for money.
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Mr E and the woods
Definetely we need to say that IT was one for the team not for himself
I hope so.... LOL
So now we all know what it is about
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I've been serviced in the woods by one of those skanks too.
I walked up the dirt track (from the road) and dropped my pants in the bushes. Her tongue was pierced and she insisted on pulling her bottom lip out to show me her mouth sores. I nearly lost my erection at that point.
I pumped her mouth for about 5 mins and then let her have some man cream for those sores.
150 baht. For a very dirty experience.
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MR Enternational or Goyave
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]This post is for real mongers; meaning those that will fuck anything that moves, anywhere, at the drop of a hat. This is definitely not for those who have to be sitting up in an air-conditioned soapie or someone who is afraid of Beach Road. I had to go deep into the bowels of mongerdom to get this one. That's right. I finally mongered at the infamous "back woods" joint at the end of Walking Street that Goyave told us about. Now I can say that I've done it and there is no need to return.
When I arrived there wasn't a choice. There was only one person lying out under some trees on a mat with dogs (another showed up at the shack while we were doing the deed). And I do believe she may have come up with fleas. As soon as I drove up she popped to attention and asked if I wanted her. I told her yes and asked how much. She held up 3 fingers and I countered with 2 fingers. She agreed so I parked my motorbike in the grass and followed her down a dirt path past a couple of makeshift homes that were made with old boards and not much else.
When we arrived at her box/house she opened the door, kicked off her shoes and climbed inside. Not wanting to be rude I removed my shoes as well. We took our clothes off in the bedroom section where if you were kneeling then your head would almost be touching the ceiling. She immediately starting sucking my dick. And oh what good head it was. I had to stop her so that I could grab my camera out of my bag. I "asked" her if she mind if I took pictures. She happily obliged and went back to her job without skipping a beat. It seemed like there was only one thing on her mind. And that one thing was getting a hit of yaba.
I didn't want her to stop sucking me but in order to get my 200 baht worth I had to try her out in mish and doggy. After that I tried to hurry and give her a cumshot to the mouth because while she was feasting on my dick the mosquitoes were feasting on my ass. Literally. I couldn't wait to get back to my apartment to detox my body after subjecting it to quite an experiment so after the last cum in mouth pictures I reached for my bag and pulled out 200 baht to give her.
She was out of that box so fast I honestly don't even remember seeing her get dressed. But I guess when yaba calls. By now it was getting dark. I got dressed and found my way back up the path to my bike and rode off into the sunset.[/QUOTE]Hi I have never see this place. Don't know if I would go in but would love to know more about how to find it "back woods".
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[QUOTE=Borisut]I've been serviced in the woods by one of those skanks too.
I walked up the dirt track (from the road) and dropped my pants in the bushes. Her tongue was pierced and she insisted on pulling her bottom lip out to show me her mouth sores. I nearly lost my erection at that point.
I pumped her mouth for about 5 mins and then let her have some man cream for those sores.
150 baht. For a very dirty experience.[/QUOTE]
Honestly... How much you then spent for your own medicaments afterwards?
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Kwan
Mr. E.
Is this the same girl I remember in a pic wearhing white tight shorts, showing a delicious camel toe?. In that pic she looks great, great body.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I headed to the massage parlor from the day before in order to get a nice massage and a nap before it was time to go to Walking Street. To make a long story short the girl from the massage place ended up coming back to the apartment with me after the massage. 43 years old, but my type. She stayed until it was time for her to go to work this morning.net Cost: 0 baht![/QUOTE]Thank you for the excellent post. I love this type of chick also (thick. Not skinny, and exotic with darker complexion/tan).
Thanks again.
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Great pics Mr. E
Great pics of Kwan. I remember her previous pics showing the camel toe
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1035588&postcount=5245[/url]
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Henry,
I was at soi 6 a few week ago I did barfine a hot little cutie from issan for the night, I go to Pattaya twice a yr price of the girl is going up the bar want 500 bht for all night barfine the girl want 1200 bht and most hot one want 1500 bht and up, with the US dollar is so low 31. 8 for one dollar Pattaya is not a bargin any more, there are not many monger in Thailand right now most hotel is half full and you can get some deal.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
So that's 500 BF and 1200-1500 LT? 1200 seems fair to me because Soi 6 is built for ST.
Speaking of ST, I've been to Soi 6 three times (1 time in June, July, Aug) at different bars, different girls, one in the afternoon and two evening. Ages 19, 21, 24. BF 300, ST 700 for each time. 2 girls were ready to go when I was finished, the other wanted me to do her again. 1 time I bought a drink for the lady, 2 times I only bought myself a drink then took them.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]My wingman and I had finished eating at KFC at Royal Garden about 11:30am. I wanted to take a walk down to Mike II to find a shirt I was looking for. We decided to walk down the beach side in order to see the ladies. We passed a group of 3 ladies but one had her back to me. My wingman said that he thought he knew her from before. We kept walking. Then it popped into his head. He said man that is the girl who you stopped to talked to yesterday. I said bullshit then we went back to go talk to her. It was definitely Kwan and who was she with. Her best bud that Showdown had taken as well.
I lied and said that I had come back for her yesterday but she was not there. She said that she had gone home. I told her that it was a must that I have her today. She said that she would be going home about 3pm. I guess she is Beach Road dayshift or something. My wingman and I continued to walk towards Mike's. We bought 2 shirts each then started to walk back to our bikes in front of Royal Garden.
Kwan and her friend were still there. Fuck it. I might as well make a deal right here and now. I probably won't feel like coming to find her later anyway. She started with 700. I countered with 500. Then I remembered the dike show that Showdown had mentioned and included her friend in on the negotiation. The sealed deal was 600 each for 1 hour pictures included. We were about to go back to the apartment when I opted to pay for the short time room instead. An extra 100 baht.
Then I thought that I had just finished fucking the girl at the massage parlor. I knew I didn't have enough power for 2 BR girls at the same time. So I pushed the friend off on my wingman. When we got to the room she immediately undressed and went to work. I couldn't resist grabbing her by the ears as she gave me head. The I put my dick on her chest and started to squeeze it between her breasts. We went through a gamut of positions and at the 20 minute mark she asked why I didn't cum yet. I told her that I was waiting for the hour mark. Then she insisted on using her mouth for the rest of the time. Who was I to argue. Besides it was much easier to use my camera that way. We finished with CIM.
I guess my wingman finished up at the same time because when we got out of the shower they were coming out of their room. His girl was complaining because he only gave her 500. I told her that is because he didn't take fotos and he doesn't even have a camera. But I told her that if she wanted to get back undressed and let me take a few snapshots then I would gladly give her the extra 100 baht. Mai pen rai. It was no big deal. After my girl was paid they were in the wind. When my wingman and I left out of the hotel there was no sight of them in either direction for at least 100 meters.[/QUOTE]
I am glad that you found her Big E though with the mileage she gets I hope you used a condom. You should have tried anal with her...she can take it deep and does not complain. She is so comfortable with me now she lets me take videos. Nevertheless she is a good lay and gives fantastic head. Bravo to you!
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News Flash: Gogo girl punches customer
I am currently Skyping with several girls, each 2-3 times per week. We do some naughty stuff, they show me their bits, I get off on it, it's all cool. These are girls I met while I was in Thailand, and they are probably working me for something, but nothing nasty has materialized thus far.
Anyway, one of these girls is a gogo dancer at Baccara in Pattaya, and she told me a story about two nights ago (maybe more than that, not sure). Some guy walked in, an old timer, someone who often frequents the place, and wanted to chat with a girl (not my girl, some other girl). This other girl was busy in conversation with her friend, and when gent asks her (not too politely) to join him, she refuses. Wow - a no-no in gogo land. He then grabs her by the arm and yanks her, and she proceeds to open up the proverbial can of whoop-ass on him. She slaps and punches his face, and trots off very happy with herself.
Gent is none to happy, so he complains to mama san and storms off.
Now gogo girl gets called into the office and is chewed out by mama san, and a shouting match ensues. The next day, apparently, the big boss manager called the girl into his office and chewed her out, docking her a week's wages. Wow. The mantra is 'Customer is #1', and she forgot the mantra.
Mind you, this is all third hand info, but it was interesting to see the work ethic and the rules that exist. Also, if that gent happens to be on this board, know that she got her just rewards. I don't approve of physically coercing the girl, if that's what happened, but she ought not to have rejected his initial overture, and certainly should not have bust up his beautiful (or otherwise) face (if that's what happened).
Overall, this is a lot of hearsay, but much like TMZ, it interests a certain segment of us.
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Remember 2 things:
Everything you hear on the internet, especially coming from a thai girl via an ISG poster, is true.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]but she ought not to have rejected his initial overture[/QUOTE]
yes, bar girls r slaves and have no right to choose who they go with
(course if i was say, indian, i might agree w/ this)
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[QUOTE=Mealticket]yes, bar girls r slaves and have no right to choose who they go with
(course if i was say, indian, i might agree w/ this)[/QUOTE]Yikes, I think I was not very clear. The overture was not for a BF, it was to sit and talk. The guy wanted to talk with her, and she cussed him out. Yes, the talk might have lead to the suggestion of a BF, but a smart girl would oblige the customer, chat with him, accept a drink, get a tip, and then quote an outrageous price, say, 3500B for ST. That way, he thinks she is too pricey, but no feelings have been hurt. That's the way I have seen it done thousands of times in gogo bars in Pattaya and BKK.
But to cuss him out first, and then punch and slap...not sure that's a good idea. But as I said, this is all hearsay. The girl may have been manhandled first, and he may have been verbally abusive to her too. Who knows.
No comment on your Indian slur.
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4 photos
Ok dug these up...
This was circa 5 years ago...
Disposable camera and lots of love...
I think she lost a little in the breast dept. Not sure if she is on something or just the natural process of getting older. I am shocked she is still at it...
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[QUOTE=Travel Fox]This was circa 5 years ago...
I think she lost a little in the breast dept. Not sure if she is on something or just the natural process of getting older. I am shocked she is still at it...[/QUOTE]What a youngster she looks like on those pictures. I didn't know she had been out there that long. Kudos to Showdown for reviving her. Didn't seem like she was on anything but the way they hauled ass after who knows.
[QUOTE=Showdown]I am glad that you found her Big E though with the mileage she gets I hope you used a condom. You should have tried anal with her...she can take it deep and does not complain. She is so comfortable with me now she lets me take videos. Nevertheless she is a good lay and gives fantastic head. Bravo to you![/QUOTE]I made a video too in the midst of everything. I totally forgot about the anal you mentioned in the report. I doubt if I had enough power at the time anyway.
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[QUOTE=Travel Fox]This was circa 5 years ago...
Disposable camera and lots of love...
I think she lost a little in the breast dept. Not sure if she is on something or just the natural process of getting older. I am shocked she is still at it...[/QUOTE]
Wow she does look really young in those photos. This girl definately has mileage on her. All the more reason to use condoms with these girls guys! Her tits are still very good size though. As for hauling out after the deed this girl is a business women and believe me she went back and hit the street.
I'm on a new quest to find a girl to top her tits. I will be sure to report.
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[QUOTE=Redfield10]I'm not a newbie to LOS or Pattaya, but never been there in Sept. I am thinking about spending a week in Bali and a week in Pattaya in Sept. I think Bali will be fine in Sept. It should be more peaceful with the Aussies leaving after vacation, etc.[/QUOTE]Red,
Regular holiday maker in Bali and now heading to Pattaya for the first time in a few months so I am currently RTFF (well the last 100 pages anyway, you guys write a l;ot of posts!) before I start to interact with you guys however I spotted your question.
I think you will find that us aussies have not yet left Bali in September due to school holidays. In fact there are not many times of year you can get away from aussies as there is a constant price war on by airlines on the Bali route. I would say Feb, Mar and April are your quietest months.
The Kuta girls are worth it though!. Drunk aussies (for the most part) are interested in getting drunk and not picking up girls.
Good luck with it
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Request
Hi Fellow Mongers,
This may not be the right forum to post this request and if so please let me know where and how I should post it.
I need some help with finding a young lady to accompany me in Bangkok and Pattaya from the 7th to the 14th of September. I will be in Bangkok and Pattaya from the 7th to the 14th of September on work and 'am looking for an english speaking (fluent) presentable lady (preferably between 21 and 30 to accompany me for the 7 days. It woud be an added bonus if she were bisexual but is not a necessity. I would greatly appreciate it if you'd have a contact for a likely lady that you could pass on.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Ravin
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Cialis
Hi,
I'm going to Pattaya for the first time on September 24 thru October 8. need to know where in Pattaya I could stock up on condoms and Cialis. Or anything similar to Cialis. Please give me a hand with this little problem.
Thank You.
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Opinion / Request
Hi Fellow Mongers
Should I spend more quality time in Pattaya, and skip toying with a Cambodian excursion this December?
From the Cambodian forum, i think the place has gone to the dogs and should be given a wide berth. I was interested in SR, but airfares are a ripoff, and there is a crackdown in Cambodia & attitude there has soured as well. Don't think I can combine sightseeing with sexable company. Too hard - so no money for them.
I believe optimum strategy is to do Pattaya, not be in it Dec 20-31 but head over to Indonesia , as last years Patts forum suggested prices doubled about then. Screw that. If Patts hotels are emptier, its because is is not the only show in town.
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Woods
[QUOTE=Ravin F]Hi Fellow Mongers,
This may not be the right forum to post this request and if so please let me know where and how I should post it.
I need some help with finding a young lady to accompany me in Bangkok and Pattaya from the 7th to the 14th of September. I will be in Bangkok and Pattaya from the 7th to the 14th of September on work and 'am looking for an english speaking (fluent) presentable lady (preferably between 21 and 30 to accompany me for the 7 days. It woud be an added bonus if she were bisexual but is not a necessity. I would greatly appreciate it if you'd have a contact for a likely lady that you could pass on.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Ravin[/QUOTE]
Dumb request! RTFF !! Study the field reports by Mr E. You will find your lady in the woods.
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The Experience
This my first posting with pictures. Hope it turns out OK. Jackson, you the man!
From the readings of this forum, and always up for a challenge, decided to go for the Pattaya 200. 300 baht experience. At present have experienced the cheap charlie. Santos Street of AC. Which was good but now getting a bit expensive as is all of AC; BasketBall Court of Cebu which was awesome; and that place which name I forgot (help me guys) in Surabaya which was triple awesome.
Wanted to experience this place which not for the faint of heart. Perhaps for a bit of bragging rights. Spoke to some friends here who have lived Pattaya for over 5 years, and none ever heard of this place.
To the beginning. Woke up. Ate good breakfast. Now, my hotel is in South Pattaya, and I left about noon. Heat of the day. This is the rainy season and it rains constantly. Walked there. For those who do not know how to get there, go entrance of Walking Street from Beach Road. Keep walking until WS ends. Past Tony's, past that whole newer area. Continue on the main road, again. There is that go-kart racing thing on the left. Small street on the right, and recall it on a slight incline. Go.
When got there was pretty sweaty. Immediately saw three gals to the left. None were spring chickens, that's certain. However, to me this a test of manhood which, just like slaying dragons, must pass.
Of the three, chose the best one there, which was just barely passable. They offered me a threesome or foursome. Ummmmm, tempting but no thanks. OK, time for pictures. Here my walk to paradise (pic-01). On my way to my personal "chateau" you can see the fancy decors of nearby hotels (pics-02 and 03). Next (pic 04 and 05) you can see my cinderella opening and entering our personal love castle.
Pic-07 is inside the suite. As you can see, rather spartan. Thankfully nothing to get in the way, as electricity, water, AC, lights, or even room to stand up straight. To hinder the [b]love experience[/b]. Now, keep in mind that it was extremely hot and humid outside. Inside it was an absolute oven.
While the entire castle was rocking, I was in complete sweat. Seriously. I mean, it was like running a marathon in 90 degree heat. And how I lasted to the end is a complete mystery. However, I Popper did run that marathon and to completion. And I even won the race.
At the end the condom has to be properly disposed of. As pictures 08 and 09, there were many holes in the floor of the chateau used for this purpose. Think mine is one of them in picture 9.
Since my first time there, gave her a generous 300 baht, knowing full well that 200 would have sufficed. She also took one of my unused Durex condoms for a tip, so if one of do yous take her and use a durex with a blue wrapper, it's mine. So hope you enjoy it.
Heading back I walked up the rest of that street. Guess there were 10. 15 gals there. None looked that great. Pic 10 you can see a gal standing near a van. Others just sitting around and wanted me to join them. Think you just take them in the woods or something. Suspect it no where near the decor I had.
Walking back, desperately needed a shower. The humidity was terrible and it soon began to rain. Then thunder. Once back in hotel may have spent about an hour in the shower. Yes, I am proud to have done it. And no, am not planning to do it again.
Hope you enjoyed my report.
Popper
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[QUOTE=Popper1] . . . gave her a generous 300 baht, knowing full well that 200 would have sufficed.[/QUOTE]There you go, ruining the market for the rest of us!*
The holes in the floor for used condoms used to be a standard feature of cheap upcountry brothels. Haven't seen them in years. It sounds like a complete trip back in time . . . just not one I'll be making any time soon.
*Joking!
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Mongering Adventure
[QUOTE=Popper1]This my first posting with pictures. Hope it turns out OK. Jackson, you the man!
From the readings of this forum, and always up for a challenge, decided to go for the Pattaya 200. 300 baht experience. At present have experienced the cheap charlie. Santos Street of AC. Which was good but now getting a bit expensive as is all of AC; BasketBall Court of Cebu which was awesome; and that place which name I forgot (help me guys) in Surabaya which was triple awesome.
Wanted to experience this place which not for the faint of heart. Perhaps for a bit of bragging rights. Spoke to some friends here who have lived Pattaya for over 5 years, and none ever heard of this place.
To the beginning. Woke up. Ate good breakfast. Now, my hotel is in South Pattaya, and I left about noon. Heat of the day. This is the rainy season and it rains constantly. Walked there. For those who do not know how to get there, go entrance of Walking Street from Beach Road. Keep walking until WS ends. Past Tony's, past that whole newer area. Continue on the main road, again. There is that go-kart racing thing on the left. Small street on the right, and recall it on a slight incline. Go.
When got there was pretty sweaty. Immediately saw three gals to the left. None were spring chickens, that's certain. However, to me this a test of manhood which, just like slaying dragons, must pass.
Of the three, chose the best one there, which was just barely passable. They offered me a threesome or foursome. Ummmmm, tempting but no thanks. OK, time for pictures. Here my walk to paradise (pic-01). On my way to my personal "chateau" you can see the fancy decors of nearby hotels (pics-02 and 03). Next (pic 04 and 05) you can see my cinderella opening and entering our personal love castle.
Pic-07 is inside the suite. As you can see, rather spartan. Thankfully nothing to get in the way, as electricity, water, AC, lights, or even room to stand up straight. To hinder the [b]love experience[/b]. Now, keep in mind that it was extremely hot and humid outside. Inside it was an absolute oven.
While the entire castle was rocking, I was in complete sweat. Seriously. I mean, it was like running a marathon in 90 degree heat. And how I lasted to the end is a complete mystery. However, I Popper did run that marathon and to completion. And I even won the race.
At the end the condom has to be properly disposed of. As pictures 08 and 09, there were many holes in the floor of the chateau used for this purpose. Think mine is one of them in picture 9.
Since my first time there, gave her a generous 300 baht, knowing full well that 200 would have sufficed. She also took one of my unused Durex condoms for a tip, so if one of do yous take her and use a durex with a blue wrapper, it's mine. So hope you enjoy it.
Heading back I walked up the rest of that street. Guess there were 10. 15 gals there. None looked that great. Pic 10 you can see a gal standing near a van. Others just sitting around and wanted me to join them. Think you just take them in the woods or something. Suspect it no where near the decor I had.
Walking back, desperately needed a shower. The humidity was terrible and it soon began to rain. Then thunder. Once back in hotel may have spent about an hour in the shower. Yes, I am proud to have done it. And no, am not planning to do it again.
Hope you enjoyed my report.
Popper[/QUOTE]
I live for these types of reports. Monger on!
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[QUOTE=Betong]
The holes in the floor for used condoms used to be a standard feature of cheap upcountry brothels.
*Joking![/QUOTE]
Are you sure the holes were for used condoms and not glory holes with a girl underneath?
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[QUOTE=Popper1]
From the readings of this forum, and always up for a challenge, decided to go for the Pattaya 200. 300 baht experience.
Walked there.
Popper[/QUOTE]
A very brave man walking there. I have always gone on my motorcycle or in my car.
NEVER, NEVER been in either the adjoining bushes or shacks. Always taken the girls (when I have found a decent one/two) to a ST hotel, and scrubbed them first. That you cannot do on foot!
Wonderful service every time - which you cannot always guarantee from a beer bar!
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[QUOTE=Popper1]and that place which name I forgot (help me guys) in Surabaya which was triple awesome.
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Maybe Dolly's?
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Are you sure the holes were for used condoms and not glory holes with a girl underneath?[/QUOTE]I checked with the SPs. That option costs an extra 50 baht.
Great report Popper. I was too shy to bring my camera out while I was in the open like you did. I'm like you. Once was enough to say that I have done it. For now I will stick with the discos and Beach Road until some new Cheap Charlie location pops up.
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[QUOTE=Smartbuy]Hi Fellow Mongers
Should I spend more quality time in Pattaya, and skip toying with a Cambodian excursion this December?
From the Cambodian forum, i think the place has gone to the dogs and should be given a wide berth. I was interested in SR, but airfares are a ripoff, and there is a crackdown in Cambodia & attitude there has soured as well. Don't think I can combine sightseeing with sexable company. Too hard - so no money for them.
I believe optimum strategy is to do Pattaya, not be in it Dec 20-31 but head over to Indonesia , as last years Patts forum suggested prices doubled about then. Screw that. If Patts hotels are emptier, its because is is not the only show in town.[/QUOTE]
Pattaya is THE place man....its like the wall street of mongering....others only try to copy or catch up with Pattaya...it always good to try new things in mongering...yet the well established places are hard to beat...like most agree that vietnamese girls are the best yet Vietnam is yet to make a mark on mongering rader...its a combination of variety of things that make Thailand what it is today.
Kudos to Thai King for not listening to western moral church brigade who threaten to cut aid if sleaze goes on...its the same sh**t happening in PH too...look we may hate what king does...but one thing he does right is not listen to any moral brigades.
Price don't double in Pattaya...we lack research...i was dot at the X'mas and new years...and i had plenty of option to go with girls and bars who were offering normal rates...only hotels have increased their prices but by not much...they advertise the price way ahead of time.
Common, you are lucky if you can go on xmas and new years the place rocks
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[QUOTE=Majestic1967]Hi,
I'm going to Pattaya for the first time on September 24 thru October 8. need to know where in Pattaya I could stock up on condoms and Cialis. Or anything similar to Cialis. Please give me a hand with this little problem.
Thank You.[/QUOTE]
Its easy go to any pharmacy they mostly have cialis and condoms..if they say bring DOC receipt..play dump foreigner and they will tell you to bring next time...however there has been a crack down recently on cialis etc check out few pharmacies mostly smaller ones..they should have a stock
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]...like most agree that vietnamese girls are the best yet Vietnam is yet to make a mark on mongering rader...[/QUOTE]'Most' don't agree on anything of the sort. Certainly Vietnamese girls have their adherents. But then so do Chinese girls, Indonesians, Thais, Filipinas, and a few others too. And the longer you're in Asia the more you come to appreciate each of them.
Oh, and Vietnam has more than made its mark in our hobby, first pre-1975, and then again in the '90s. Unfortunately it's been going downhill for a while now, mainly due to the fact that the economy is growing so fast that the girls have other opportunities and mongering is getting expensive. You can still do very well there, but it usually takes some insider knowledge and language.
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too high
[QUOTE=Amjeck]The 1200 and 1500 quotes were from soi6 bargirls for LT?
BEER BARS (not soi6) (18-21yo market):
I recently had one beer bar girl quote me 1500 ST and another 2000ST. Both were young an cute, but neither would budge on price. I've found that most beer bar girls will gladly go for 1000ST, but not so many will go for 500-700 anymore.[/QUOTE]Amjeck,
Yes I have girl that quote me that too just move on only dumb ass newbie will paid that kind of price ,some girl will quote a high price because they don't want to be barfine ,they want to pick their customer the hot one will do that .
Fast eddie 48
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Tip Of The Hat Sir Popper
[QUOTE=Popper1] decided to go for the Pattaya 200. 300 baht experience. However, to me this a test of manhood which, just like slaying dragons, must pass.
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FANTASTIC!!!! I visit Pattaya only for the barely barely legal super hotties fresh of the bus, but heh .... to each his own. While this is was beyond what I would want to experience, but the shots, and the commetary was stellar and hilarious ....worthy of "60min" report
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Nice Nice Nice
[QUOTE=Travel Fox]This was circa 5 years ago..am shocked she is still at it...[/QUOTE]
PLEASE dig up more!!!!!
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This is the Stuff
[QUOTE=Popper1]This my first posting with pictures. Hope it turns out OK. Jackson, you the man!
From the readings of this forum, and always up for a challenge, decided to go for the Pattaya 200. 300 baht experience. At present have experienced the cheap charlie. Santos Street of AC. Which was good but now getting a bit expensive as is all of AC; BasketBall Court of Cebu which was awesome; and that place which name I forgot (help me guys) in Surabaya which was triple awesome.
Wanted to experience this place which not for the faint of heart. Perhaps for a bit of bragging rights. Spoke to some friends here who have lived Pattaya for over 5 years, and none ever heard of this place.
To the beginning. Woke up. Ate good breakfast. Now, my hotel is in South Pattaya, and I left about noon. Heat of the day. This is the rainy season and it rains constantly. Walked there. For those who do not know how to get there, go entrance of Walking Street from Beach Road. Keep walking until WS ends. Past Tony's, past that whole newer area. Continue on the main road, again. There is that go-kart racing thing on the left. Small street on the right, and recall it on a slight incline. Go.
When got there was pretty sweaty. Immediately saw three gals to the left. None were spring chickens, that's certain. However, to me this a test of manhood which, just like slaying dragons, must pass.
Of the three, chose the best one there, which was just barely passable. They offered me a threesome or foursome. Ummmmm, tempting but no thanks. OK, time for pictures. Here my walk to paradise (pic-01). On my way to my personal "chateau" you can see the fancy decors of nearby hotels (pics-02 and 03). Next (pic 04 and 05) you can see my cinderella opening and entering our personal love castle.
Pic-07 is inside the suite. As you can see, rather spartan. Thankfully nothing to get in the way, as electricity, water, AC, lights, or even room to stand up straight. To hinder the [b]love experience[/b]. Now, keep in mind that it was extremely hot and humid outside. Inside it was an absolute oven.
While the entire castle was rocking, I was in complete sweat. Seriously. I mean, it was like running a marathon in 90 degree heat. And how I lasted to the end is a complete mystery. However, I Popper did run that marathon and to completion. And I even won the race.
At the end the condom has to be properly disposed of. As pictures 08 and 09, there were many holes in the floor of the chateau used for this purpose. Think mine is one of them in picture 9.
Since my first time there, gave her a generous 300 baht, knowing full well that 200 would have sufficed. She also took one of my unused Durex condoms for a tip, so if one of do yous take her and use a durex with a blue wrapper, it's mine. So hope you enjoy it.
Heading back I walked up the rest of that street. Guess there were 10. 15 gals there. None looked that great. Pic 10 you can see a gal standing near a van. Others just sitting around and wanted me to join them. Think you just take them in the woods or something. Suspect it no where near the decor I had.
Walking back, desperately needed a shower. The humidity was terrible and it soon began to rain. Then thunder. Once back in hotel may have spent about an hour in the shower. Yes, I am proud to have done it. And no, am not planning to do it again.
Hope you enjoyed my report.
Popper[/QUOTE]Love these type of down and dirty Reports. Walking on the low side can be a ton of fun actually from time to time. Please do keep these coming.
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[QUOTE=Smartbuy]Hi Fellow Mongers
Should I spend more quality time in Pattaya, and skip toying with a Cambodian excursion this December?
From the Cambodian forum, i think the place has gone to the dogs and should be given a wide berth. I was interested in SR, but airfares are a ripoff, and there is a crackdown in Cambodia & attitude there has soured as well. Don't think I can combine sightseeing with sexable company. Too hard - so no money for them.
I believe optimum strategy is to do Pattaya, not be in it Dec 20-31 but head over to Indonesia , as last years Patts forum suggested prices doubled about then. Screw that. If Patts hotels are emptier, its because is is not the only show in town.[/QUOTE]
I'm in the same boat. I'm going to Pattaya in Dec too and I was planning on 7 - 10 days in Cambodia. I want to see Angkor and I'd like to go to Snooky. But, between the inflated prices for a plane ticket and recent reports I'm starting to think about doing something else. I'm not sure what, maybe I'll look into Indonesia too - never been there.
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Kwan or Kwant?
[QUOTE=Travel Fox]This was circa 5 years ago...
Disposable camera and lots of love...
I think she lost a little in the breast dept. Not sure if she is on something or just the natural process of getting older. I am shocked she is still at it...[/QUOTE]
Wow! I hooked up with her when I was there in Feb. I can't believe she's been there that long! I got her number but didn't end up seeing her until the morning I was leaving. She was really good and I was kind of pissed I hadn't called her sooner. The only thing I didn't like was that when I gave her 500 after she insisted on a tip - said because I came on her face I needed to give her more. I think I gave her another 1 or 2 hundred. I was leaving anyway, but I didn't appreciate her insistent attitude. She was great up until then though.
I remember I had her name written down as 'Kwant'. I might have screwed that up though.
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The Experience - Replies
[QUOTE= Undakovabrotha]I live for these types of reports. Monger on![/QUOTE]Thanks. Surprised not nominated as [u]Report of Distinction[/u].
[QUOTE= Bumholes1]Wonderful service every time - which you cannot always guarantee from a beer bar![/QUOTE]Actually, Have been going to Pattaya now since figure 1998/9, and for past five years never pay bar fines. Far better performance, and no mandatory LD, BF, or rest of the hardcore sales crapola. As the saying goes, bar fines are for tourists and suckers.
[QUOTE= Ekspat]Maybe Dolly's?[/QUOTE]Yea, that's the place. Awesome. Just don't go there at night. Could be dangerous. Just love those islands.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Great report Popper. I was too shy to bring my camera out while I was in the open like you did. I'm like you. Once was enough to say that I have done it. For now I will stick with the discos and Beach Road until some new Cheap Charlie location pops up.[/QUOTE]Thx Mr. E. From you this means a lot.
BTW: My "camera" is a Sony-Errikson flip-phone which I bought used back in 2007/8 for 1200 baht, and then two or three years old. Got it at Big C, upper floors which are labeled "Cheap Charlie Special". I refuse to waste good cash on any cell phone, esp when they all do the same thing.
Besides, no self respecting bar girl would even consider stealing it.
[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]FANTASTIC!!!! I visit Pattaya only for the barely barely legal super hotties fresh of the bus, but heh .... to each his own. While this is was beyond what I would want to experience, but the shots, and the commetary was stellar and hilarious ....worthy of "60min" report[/QUOTE]Yea, but anyone can do that.
Popper
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"All you touch and all you see, Is all your life will ever be."
-- Pink Floyd
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First Trip to Pattaya
Now I live in Bangkok it wasn't going to be long before I decided to visit Pattaya to see what all the fuss is about. So on Friday after work I had a car to take me the shortish journey by motorway in 2hours. Would have been quicker but the storms caused so many crashes on route that there were many hold ups.
I stayed at the Baywalk residence – had reasonable reputation on here and also was only 1000THB on Agoda. The room as I expected was basic with a dark ugly bathroom but it was clean and being on Beach Road 2 mins from Walking St it had location on its side.
Wanted to explore some beer bars first so turned right and walked up past Mikes keeping my eye on the other side of beach road. Met an American guy Tom who wanted to tell me about his previous night and then when we bumped into each other next bar seemed obvious to stay together. Went to beer bars past soi13 the girls not great but there were odd muay fights with 6 year olds!
Finally into Walking Street – went to beer bars just inside on the right (Simon's bars?) had a few good contacts but my new friend wanted to explore further in. He didn't quite understand difference between go-go and beer bar so took him into Peppermint which was heaving – just bodies everywhere and of course a few who wanted to land on us and ask for drinks. Tom was keen but not keen enough.
I tried to find X Zone but my map let me down so we went back to earlier bar – I barfined the cutey I had played with before – Siriya – 300bf+2000 for LT. A very good evening and morning – touch of the GFE about her. Great English and unusually from Chang Mai not Isaan.
Saturday was grey and I realized that sitting on the beach was not an option so bit of shopping then lunch and beers at beer garden before an afternoon kip. Wandered round looking for good looking massage option – found one went for the hour aroma (280 instead of 400+ in Bangkok another example of Pattaya being cheaper) let her tug away for awhile but didn't want a finish saved it for the evening.
Got baht bus round to soi 6 but nothing interesting there so wandered down had dinner at very expensive Hard Rock before next bus to Walking – couple of beers in one of the bars by beer garden then kept going down and went to Baccara very bored looking girls and tonight on my own found X Zone – I was only punter and was quickly moved to a stage area to "play" with 2 of the girls – obviously the banana/fist thing is a routine but interesting given that they do it with no guarantee of money at the end. They asked about short time but while I enjoyed the moment there is something off-putting about then fucking a girl who has done this act with so many blokes – illogical I know.
Back up Walking then made a classic error – 3 weeks since I arrived in Bangkok and there in front of me were East European blondes of the sort I know from Tallinn/Krakow/Berlin and even London. I am referring of course to Ladys Shadow.
I know many of you are groaning "don't do it" but I did – my drink 300 her drink 600! Then private dance 2000 – so why? Well apart from the delight of something different (like eating McDs after weeks of Tom Yung) I wanted to see the etiquette – how did it work? I knew from the price list it was a rip off compared to anywhere else in town but I was intrigued. For what it's worth (and for 2000 it was worth a lot) the dance was as good as many normal lap dances I've had in my time (and of course 2 songs in London would be 40quid or 2000 baht anyway) with touching and she paid a fair degree of attention to my bits – didn't ask about taking her out but does anyone know the bar fine and ST/LT prices?
Out of Walking to get more money then up to Penthouse to see Kitten/Obsessions. But made decision to find a girl on Beach Road – 5 mins later one was in my room doing very passable OWO with CIM. 500THB.
Finally Sunday morning sun came out – hour by the pool before trying to check out – the thieving gits claimed I had a beer from the fridge which I didn't but they deducted 60 from my deposit anyway – left a bad taste and just why do they bother – what happened to customer being right? But gentlemen watch yourselves if you do book the Baywalk (meant to say as well the brekkie was dreadful) think they have a sequence of scams if they do that over 60baht!
Baht bus to the Bangkok bus station and very quick journey back to Mo Chit for 120THB real bargain!
Still so many bits to explore but after the last few days will be paying far more attention to the Pattaya section of the forum and will go back very soon.
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Kwan or Kwant
[QUOTE=Methos]I remember I had her name written down as 'Kwant'. I might have screwed that up though.[/QUOTE]When I originally asked her name I heard Kwan. So I kept repeating "Kwan" aloud when we were together as not to forget it. if it was not Kwan then she never corrected me. Showdown is more familiar with her so maybe he can tell us for certain.
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The Disappointment
Couple of days before me and one of my travel companion arrived at 11.00p.m. after a long traveling from Chiangmai by bus. We were decided will stay at Hotel Penthouse and skipped any prior hotel booking. We were gladly obliged by the hotel reception when we asked to visit the rooms before we confirm. On the way to the rooms my companion started to made comments:
“It’s a tree house”
Any way we continued our visits +1000b and +1,300b rooms. Mirrors, lightings, Straps, dancing poles nothing impressed to my friend. In front of the reception counter we decided not to get any room here.
“Rooms are dirty” – the comment of my travel mate.
So we started our walk to find an Internet café to book our room in convenient place. Finally we find our room at “Estinny Inn” on Soi 8, and finished our booking by Agoada. We both were hungry as hell and decided to keep our baggage at the café and our request was gladly obliged by the café. We went out to get our eateries and we felt to have couple of drinks also. So far on our knowledge the Cafes in Thailand usually keeps open for 24hrs. So with relax at 2.00 a.m. we arrived at café and surprisingly found closed. What the hell ! We were seeing our belongs through curtain but finally we find no way to have up of those.
It was raining with cats and dogs and we two stupid started our walk to our hotel without our baggage. When we arrived at our hotel on soi 8 and entered in our room it was 4.00 am.
We were soaking wet and never complained to each other.
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Huh?
I don't understand the purpose of your post? First, you tell us you didn't like the hotel you went to. (You hadn't even booked one ahead of time)? Then you leave your luggage at an internet cafe? (You were lucky your luggage was even there the next day!)
So you book another hotel but didn't go check in at the hotel at midnight or so? Then you go out and eat and drink (you saw a couple of drinks?) so I'm assuming this might have taken two hours maybe? Then you return at 2 am! And you are surprised the internet cafe is closed in Pattaya?
And then apparently you walk for two hours arriving at 4 am at your hotel in the rain? No taxi or baht bus?
And what is the purpose of your post? To warn us that it helps to think a bit before doing dumb things?
[QUOTE=Mua Tur]Couple of days before me and one of my travel companion arrived at 11.00p.m. after a long traveling from Chiangmai by bus. We were decided will stay at Hotel Penthouse and skipped any prior hotel booking. We were gladly obliged by the hotel reception when we asked to visit the rooms before we confirm. On the way to the rooms my companion started to made comments:
“It’s a tree house”
Any way we continued our visits +1000b and +1,300b rooms. Mirrors, lightings, Straps, dancing poles nothing impressed to my friend. In front of the reception counter we decided not to get any room here.
“Rooms are dirty” – the comment of my travel mate.
So we started our walk to find an Internet café to book our room in convenient place. Finally we find our room at “Estinny Inn” on Soi 8, and finished our booking by Agoada. We both were hungry as hell and decided to keep our baggage at the café and our request was gladly obliged by the café. We went out to get our eateries and we felt to have couple of drinks also. So far on our knowledge the Cafes in Thailand usually keeps open for 24hrs. So with relax at 2.00 a.m. we arrived at café and surprisingly found closed. What the hell ! We were seeing our belongs through curtain but finally we find no way to have up of those.
It was raining with cats and dogs and we two stupid started our walk to our hotel without our baggage. When we arrived at our hotel on soi 8 and entered in our room it was 4.00 am.
We were soaking wet and never complained to each other.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]When I originally asked her name I heard Kwan. So I kept repeating "Kwan" aloud when we were together as not to forget it. if it was not Kwan then she never corrected me. Showdown is more familiar with her so maybe he can tell us for certain.[/QUOTE]
Looking through my phone I have her name written down as Kwang. Thats what I call her.
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[QUOTE=Mua Tur]So we started our walk to find an Internet café to book our room in convenient place. Finally we find our room at “Estinny Inn” on Soi 8, and finished our booking by Agoada. We both were hungry as hell and decided to keep our baggage at the café and our request was gladly obliged by the café. We went out to get our eateries and we felt to have couple of drinks also. So far on our knowledge the Cafes in Thailand usually keeps open for 24hrs. So with relax at 2.00 a.m. we arrived at café and surprisingly found closed. What the hell ! We were seeing our belongs through curtain but finally we find no way to have up of those.[/QUOTE]That is a funny story, especially the part about PH. I have never been there but I'm sure I would be as unimpressed as your wingman. There have been reports on here before about the dirtiness/dustiness of the rooms. I used to stay at Eastiny on Soi 8. There are 3 on the same street and one over on Soi 7. After a few times I decided it was a bit too noisy with all the bars around. They have free internet and I'm sure that they wouldn't have mind letting you borrow it to book your room.
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Lots of building going on
Plenty of construction sites ... big block of soi 8 is excavated to foundation level ... I doubt if it will be improved by whatever arises.
I see a lot of bars for sale or for rent, but also a good many springing up.
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[QUOTE=Stiffoak 571]I had a car to take me
Baht bus to the Bangkok bus station and very quick journey back to Mo Chit for 120THB real bargain![/QUOTE]Did you switch from private car to the morchit bus 'cause of the 3K you blew on the white girl?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]That is a funny story, especially the part about PH. I have never been there but I'm sure I would be as unimpressed as your wingman. There have been reports on here before about the dirtiness/dustiness of the rooms. I used to stay at Eastiny on Soi 8. There are 3 on the same street and one over on Soi 7. After a few times I decided it was a bit too noisy with all the bars around. They have free internet and I'm sure that they wouldn't have mind letting you borrow it to book your room.[/QUOTE]
Yah u r absolutley right. There r couple of estinnies in this area and they will not mind to letting us to borrow their rooms through using their wifi.
But the fact is we discovered the hotel through agoda search, and during our staying time we gladly used their wifi whenever we were in need.
Moreover noises were not problem for us at all. We both guys got a long time habbit of got sleep in day and moves on night.
AND the hotel location extrmely pleased both of us.
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[QUOTE=Redfield10]I don't understand the purpose of your post? First, you tell us you didn't like the hotel you went to. (You hadn't even booked one ahead of time)? Then you leave your luggage at an internet cafe? (You were lucky your luggage was even there the next day!)
So you book another hotel but didn't go check in at the hotel at midnight or so? Then you go out and eat and drink (you saw a couple of drinks?) so I'm assuming this might have taken two hours maybe? Then you return at 2 am! And you are surprised the internet cafe is closed in Pattaya?
And then apparently you walk for two hours arriving at 4 am at your hotel in the rain? No taxi or baht bus?
And what is the purpose of your post? To warn us that it helps to think a bit before doing dumb things?[/QUOTE]
Yes it's true we didn't booked our room prior to arrive at Pat. Because some mails was been exchanged before with penthouse for our room. However we didn't liked the things was available for us that time.
yes we got our luggage next day. I think it's not a lucky matter at all to have on next day. There r no reason and never been experienced before that Pat peoples are bad in any means.
Yes we were surprised cuz we found 24hrs open cafe in BKK. We do agree here we did a dumb thing that we gone for eating and drinking instead of check in our room. And these snatches our time. Cuz we believed that the cafe will be open for 24hrs.
AND yes we walk. The only reason is we were not familiar enough with Pat as like u. The fact is we were not experienced with the bhat bus routes. Moreover we were confused about the location of Soi8. To avoid more hassles we decided for a walk instead of using Bhat bus. U r absolutely correct there no taxi we found on that rainy night.
Why we loosed times ? I m not advising u to try the same in a cats and dogs rainy night but u can imagine two confused people what may do.
Why posted it! I m letting u guess why the forum is used for.
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Sometimes you notice
Sometimes you notice small things:
There seems to be a rule amongst the girls in pattaya regarding their work "uniform".
The tight jeans/White tank top combo seems to be reserved for hot chicks only.
Now, I know it isn't 100% but my sightings are pretty close. I've seen abundant chicks of all shapes and ratings in every other clothing type and color but this one combo is well reserved for the 8's and 9's..
Anyway, not pertinent to anything, but now that I've mentioned it....see for yourself.
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Well
I think the thing is not all 8 and 9s are in that uniform but most of those in the uniform are 8s and 9s. I'd agree!
[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Sometimes you notice small things:
There seems to be a rule amongst the girls in pattaya regarding their work "uniform".
The tight jeans/White tank top combo seems to be reserved for hot chicks only.
Now, I know it isn't 100% but my sightings are pretty close. I've seen abundant chicks of all shapes and ratings in every other clothing type and color but this one combo is well reserved for the 8's and 9's..
Anyway, not pertinent to anything, but now that I've mentioned it....see for yourself.[/QUOTE]
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My pattaya report
Was in Pattaya for about 4 days, overall theres not much to do that I found, thanks to all the info on this board
First nite we went to walking street, went to whats up go-go, they have an awesome set up, we sat at a shower tub thing, like 3 chicks showering and sudsing up, they covered my head with suds and it was a fun experience, after a while the main show on stage came, chicks wearing all black went up and they did a few dances where they all were licking each other, it was quite a show because they were actually licking each other, I was shocked and entranced
Next we went to super baby go go, couple of very good looking women, got some drinks but I did not get anything, went to a couple of other go gos but nothing worth mentioning, we ended up at marine disco, couple of ladies but nothing great so went to bed drunk alone
Next nite walked down beach road, mostly older women and ladyboys, I would be afraid to pick anything on Beach Road to be honest, but that's just me, went to super baby go go again, did not drink much so I was fully coherent, picked a nice young cuty, 600bht bar fine, 1500bht ST fee, I should have read the reports on super baby go go before I went, as I was disappointed with the CBJ, performance was blah, after all the no's to my request I just said please go, no to kissing, no to licking my ear, no to kissing my neck, no to me even seeing her poon, no to me touching anything, only thing she would do was CG position, needless to say I didn't finish nor did I tip, at least she knew the answer if she would have asked for a tip, she was astute enough to see my displeasure as she said I don't think your ok with this, I said just leave.
Next day I was reading up on the boards, noticed beer bars and soi 6 was the way to go, so headed to soi 6, lots and lots of pretty girls, as we walked down the soi we were physically dragged by chicks to their bars a couple of times, usually in Pattaya they just say welcome, hey whats up dude or something of the sort and then if you don't answer they leave you alone, so if you go down soi 6 be prepared, they are alot more agressive there, we didn't partake but I wanted to, again there were ALOT of pretty girls in quite a few of the bars, all sitting out front.
Later that nite went to a random beer bar in Walking Street, it was clustered in with a ton of other beer bars, sat and played Jenga and Connect 4, got my ass whooped on, couple of ok ladies but nothing that made me want to take them, walked back to hotel and it was raining, took a shortcut saw a real cutie in a beer bar, later came back but the cutie was playing jenga with some old white guy, so I drank with this other chick, she was wearing a frumpy dress so I was thinking mom body(I was right), I bar fined her 300bht, she quoted 1k ST and 1500LT, I said lets go and I'll decide what I want when I get to my room, she was quite timid at first but she opened up, by far the best kisser I've had in LOS so far, she wanted to do CBJ but I didn't want that, I wanted to bone so we went at it for a while, I don't think I've ever physically seen a woman as wet as that girl was, she was a great f**k, I gave her ST fee plus a nice tip and sent her on her way, looking back I should have kept her LT, the bar was called Fernando's or Ferdinands or something like that, it was in a cluster of beer bars next to Papagayo's, very near LK Renanasance.
Overall I did not see the quality of beautiful girls in Pattaya as I saw in Bangkok, though you cannot argue with the prices, I would say just stay clear of go gos and stick with beer bars, I did check out the discos but did not partake of the discos as I did not find anything I liked, there are a few good looking ladies just FL on walking street, quite a few ladyboys so be careful.
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Free Market Capitalism At Work On Pattaya Beach
At last we might be rid of the obnoxious tent market festivals along Beach Road if this group of free market Thai capitalists has anything to say about it.
They say its ruining the beach atmosphere for foreign tourists.
I'll second that.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/27119/protest-on-pattaya-beach-against-regular-weekend-markets/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]At last we might be rid of the obnoxious tent market festivals along Beach Road if this group of free market Thai capitalists has anything to say about it.
They say its ruining the beach atmosphere for foreign tourists.
I'll second that.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/27119/protest-on-pattaya-beach-against-regular-weekend-markets/[/url][/QUOTE]They obviously make money and most of the customers are Thais. The foreigners are in the bars and go-gos. So who is going to care what the foreign tourist thinks? They never do anyway!
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Time Shares in Pattaya - Jontien
While walking about Pattaya, met a guy with an AC shirt, and we began talking (I was wearing my Angeles' Hash shirt). Long story short, he bought a timeshare in Jontien. Those slime buckets are always bothering me during my walks to get a timeshare. Asked him of it.
He said initial cost is $17,000. For this, you then pay a maintenance fee of $50/day you are allowed to stay in the timeshare. He "owns" 14 days a year, so he pays $50 times 14 days per year is $700. Asked him what he thought. He mentioned that they raised the "maintenance fees" recently, and few years ago maintenance was far cheaper. He now does not like Jontien because it too far from the action, but likes the physical timeshare place itself (and it has a nice pool). However, he wants to get rid of the thing. [b]yea like gooooooood luck[/b].
Popper thoughts: Timeshares are a complete scam. My hotel which I am staying at in South Pattaya is at an outstanding location, has AC, cable TV, hot water, clean, large bed, wi-fi, and cost only 500 baht/day. If I dislike it for whatever reason I go to the hotel next door.
To pay $17,000 for a place which then forces you to spend $50/day (about 1650 baht) for each day you actually stay there is to me [b]INSANE[/b]. Also, those "maintenance fees" (whatever the f*ck that means) can increase in few years to $70/day, $100/day, or to who knows what. Furthermore, and I no expert on timeshares, as I've read you cannot get rid of the thing ever. Unless you declare bankruptcy. If you give your estate to someone (say your kids), they must accept the timeshare and continue payments on it whether they want it or not.
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Touristy farang garbage for sale
[QUOTE=Bumholes1]They obviously make money and most of the customers are Thais. The foreigners are in the bars and go-gos. So who is going to care what the foreign tourist thinks? They never do anyway![/QUOTE]If you've even been to Koh Samui of Phuket, the Thais have completely destroyed the place, with so so so much touristy farang garbage to purchase. Compare 1999 Lamai Beach to now, it is nearly disgusting how much crap there is for sale. I remember a few years ago walking Chewang Beach (and I suspect even now) there not an inch where you could just sit and relax. Main street also, people just selling touristy crap to ding-dong farangs. Not an inch of rest. Now since there are not as many tourists has before, and with less cash to spend, it slightly more bearable.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]At last we might be rid of the obnoxious tent market festivals along Beach Road if this group of free market Thai capitalists has anything to say about it.
They say its ruining the beach atmosphere for foreign tourists.
I'll second that.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/27119/protest-on-pattaya-beach-against-regular-weekend-markets/[/url][/QUOTE]From the article they need a new location? Maybe they can move them down beyond Walking Street to the area that only a few dare?
" To the Bush " From reading here there are only a few shacks placing Tents everywhere might just improve the area and get the bushes trimmed?
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]From the article they need a new location? Maybe they can move them down beyond Walking Street to the area that only a few dare?
" To the Bush " From reading here there are only a few shacks placing Tents everywhere might just improve the area and get the bushes trimmed?
LBM[/QUOTE]
Some of the younger female vendors might be up for it too
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Popper thoughts: Timeshares are a complete scam. My hotel which I am staying at in South Pattaya is at an outstanding location, has AC, cable TV, hot water, clean, large bed, wi-fi, and cost only 500 baht/day. [/QUOTE]I know this is the wrong thread, but what hotel is that? Sounds like good value.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Long story short, he bought a timeshare in Jontien. He said initial cost is $17,000. For this, you then pay a maintenance fee of $50/day you are allowed to stay in the timeshare. He "owns" 14 days a year, so he pays $50 times 14 days per year is $700. [/QUOTE]Did they see this guy coming or what? It's like they gave him a rope and he tied it up to hang himself. Any way you cut it this guy got a raw deal. Even if broken down over ten years at 1700 prorated initial fee + 50/day, he ends up paying $171/day for each day he stays. How many places in Pattaya cost this much? My room is only $1500/yr or $4/day and I own it 365 days. This guy must have been high on pussy to get suckered into a deal like that.
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[QUOTE=Timmylamb]I would be afraid to pick anything on Beach Road to be honest, but that's just me, went to super baby go go again, did not drink much so I was fully coherent, picked a nice young cuty, 600bht bar fine, 1500bht ST fee, I should have read the reports on super baby go go before I went, as I was disappointed with the CBJ, performance was blah, after all the no's to my request I just said please go, no to kissing, no to licking my ear, no to kissing my neck, no to me even seeing her poon, no to me touching anything, only thing she would do was CG position, needless to say I didn't finish nor did I tip,[/QUOTE]Just to continue the never-ending BR debate...me being a pro-BR guy; for the 2100 baht price of one Super Baby dud you could have gotten 4 or 5 BR girls who would have given you a stellar performance. "Tired of hearing no when she is supposed to be a ho? Then Beach Road is the way you should go!"
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]At last we might be rid of the obnoxious tent market festivals along Beach Road if this group of free market Thai capitalists has anything to say about it.
They say its ruining the beach atmosphere for foreign tourists.
I'll second that.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/27119/protest-on-pattaya-beach-against-regular-weekend-markets/[/url][/QUOTE]Would it make too much sense to move this thing to the South Pattaya side of Soi Buakaow in the lots where they have the other market on Tuesdays and Fridays?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Would it make too much sense to move this thing to the South Pattaya side of Soi Buakaow in the lots where they have the other market on Tuesdays and Fridays?[/QUOTE]
That's too easy a solution!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Just to continue the never-ending BR debate...me being a pro-BR guy; for the 2100 baht price of one Super Baby dud you could have gotten 4 or 5 BR girls who would have given you a stellar performance. "Tired of hearing no when she is supposed to be a ho? Then Beach Road is the way you should go!"[/QUOTE]Super Baby A-Go-Go caters more to Japanese & Korean xpats working in Thailand. I know I live here and the Thai owner Pratip is my friend. Don't expect GFE girls are mercenary. Most do 3 bar fine ST's/per night but, they got some of the cutest ones working there!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]My room is only $1500/yr or $4/day and I own it 365 days. [/QUOTE]Sorry but your numbers are off. Can you please correct. Also are you located on Soi Bekow, 3rd Road, or somewhere else?
Popper
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Did they see this guy coming or what? It's like they gave him a rope and he tied it up to hang himself. Any way you cut it this guy got a raw deal. Even if broken down over ten years at 1700 prorated initial fee + 50/day, he ends up paying $171/day for each day he stays. How many places in Pattaya cost this much? My room is only $1500/yr or $4/day and I own it 365 days. This guy must have been high on pussy to get suckered into a deal like that.[/QUOTE]You are correct. 1.5 Million baht could have bought an ocean view studio with outright ownership. Condo maintenance fees are ridiculously low and no property tax yet!
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The difference is the lot at the end of Soi Buakhao is privately owned and when they use it as a market on Tuesday and Friday like all the other open markets throughout Pattaya each vendor has to pay a fee for that day.
When they first started on Beach Rd. the idea was to bring the tourist back after the Red shirt ordeal. Just like having free concerts, fireworks display etc. the Mayor of the City decided to provide free tents all along Beach Rd. for Free! one particular weekend so that the local vendors who were hurt by Red shirts and the drop in Tourist could sell their wares at a discounted price since they didn't have to pay for the Tent and space. The locals felt it was so successful so they continue and continue and yes! the traffic just sucks on the corner of Beach Road and Pattaya Klang, also in front of Royal Garden and the girls head to the otherside of the street.
There is a popular saying that " That the Government can't run anything " and this is very true when it comes to Pattaya. The most effective policy they have is stopping motorbikes throughout the City checking for all kinds of B.S. to supplement their meager income. The second is constantly ripping up Sukhumvit road Medium and planting flower for the Tourist to see over and over again. They just can't figure out where they want a signal light or Intersection? Just look at their Firework display one weekend. People came from Bangkok for the weekend and traffic was backed up pass North Pattaya down to Banglamung. The traffic on Sukhumvit / Pattaya Klang / Siam Country Club Road intersection was at a stand still and the cops in their huts didn't know what to do nor would they come out of their A/C huts. It was funny at the same time the wild wild west!
In the end... Beach Rd, is for the Tourist and they don't care about us Mongers! It's fake T-shirts first!
LBM
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Last night in Pattaya
Yesterday had four rounds with two different gals in Pattaya. Found this one outside a 7/11 in South Pattaya. 22 years old and huge tits. Pictures are a bit grainy and taken with my pretty dated cell phone. Anyway you get the idea. Was a tiger in the sack and had two rounds for 700 baht.
Damn I hate Pattaya.
Popper
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Huge tits?
Popper,
Glad she made you happy, but....
If you call those large, then what do you call these?
BTW They came at B150 a piece in "low quality" (thanks for the quote Opebo!) Isaan
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Actually I suspect that the new Beach Road market for useless junk for useless people has been instigated precisely to get rid of the Beach Road working girls. They tried for years to get rid of them by police operations, and though they had some success, it was very expensive and required too much hard work. As it turns out all they had to do was let in the horrors of capitalism and the scene is destroyed effortlessly.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Bar Fines and Lady Drinks are only for tourists and suckers ![/QUOTE]Damn, just when I thought I was getting the hang of this hobby, I find out I'm both a tourist and a sucker. Ah well.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]
Bar Fines and Lady Drinks are only for tourists and suckers ![/QUOTE]
Not if it leads to sex with a girl far better looking than in the pics you posted.
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What is This
[QUOTE=Popper1]
Pictures are a bit grainy and taken with my pretty dated cell phone. Anyway you get the idea. Was a tiger in the sack and had two rounds for 700 baht.
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I would hate to dissuade any one from posting pictures of girls, but the ones you posted are unviewable. Three come thru as completely black, others so dark I could not tell what they were supposed to be.
Glad you had fun and press on.
Thanks,
Slim
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Sorry but your numbers are off. Can you please correct. Also are you located on Soi Bekow, 3rd Road, or somewhere else?[/QUOTE]I'm off Pattaya Klang. 4000 baht/month x 12 months = 48,000 baht/year by 32 baht/US$= US$1500/year by 365 days/year = US$4.10/day.
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Am thinking of taking a trip over to Thailand this year, can anyone explain to me how ST and LT works? Is there like an industry standard of ST for an hour and LT for all night or it is down to each girl herself? What is the STI rate there like also?
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[QUOTE=Winthorp]Am thinking of taking a trip over to Thailand this year, can anyone explain to me how ST and LT works? Is there like an industry standard of ST for an hour and LT for all night or it is down to each girl herself? What is the STI rate there like also?[/QUOTE]
READ the FF. All info is here.
For a NOOB I will tell you ST is exactly what it is short time. Depending on the girl it is till you are done ejaculating. It maybe 5 min to half hour. If you take long time to cum many girls get upset unless they are horny. Horny girls will stay longer if they like you.
LT can mean anywhere etween ST and till next afternoon till she goes ack to work. For some girls LT means ST. They will find a way to vanish after ST giving one reason or another. Depending on the chemistry and naivete of the girl she may leave in the morning after another pop or stay with you till evening.
As for the prices RTFF. In spite of what is written like any other business transaction it is agreed price between you and the girl.
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Industry standards? In THAILAND!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Winthorp]Is there like an industry standard of ST for an hour and LT for all night [/QUOTE]
This is Thailand you are talking about! THERE ARE NO STANDARDS (FOR ANYTHING!)
What a WG may (seem to) agree to at the negotiation stage and what happens in reality may be completely different.
I have been with 500 Baht girls who have been happy to stay with me for several hours, or even over night. I have also had the occasional bad experience of a girl (after agreeing to a price for long time) wanting to leave after an hour or so.
However YMMV with the same girl, on the same day, at the same price!!!!!!
Don’t try to figure out Thai logic (There is none!) Just RTFF, buy your ticket and ENJOY!
Hotman.
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STI Rates?
[QUOTE=Winthorp]What is the STI rate there like also?[/QUOTE]
The STI rate! Compared with what!
You either get some infection or, if you are careful, you don’t!
My advice is to take the risks that you are happy with and protect against the others.
Don’t forget, you don’t get girls who are “a little bit infected!” It’s “all or nothing.”
I’m sure that there are Mongers on this site who can tell you that they have been having unprotected sex (including Anal) for years and never had even a slight problem. I would also take a bet that someone out there was unlucky enough to get some serious infection (from a NON W.G.) the first time he ever had sex!!!
Every monger must make his own decision on what he believes is reasonable.
If that is Everything Covered and No Kissing or Everything Bareback depends on you and the trade offs you make between risk and enjoyment.
You are the only one who can make that decision.
Enjoy,
Hotman
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Sexsational girl
[QUOTE=Popper1]Yesterday had four rounds with two different gals in Pattaya. Found this one outside a 7/11 in South Pattaya. 22 years old and huge tits. Pictures are a bit grainy and taken with my pretty dated cell phone![/QUOTE]
Lovely girl Popper1, thanks for the effort. Freeler, thats what i call tits, way to go.
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How much did she pay you?
[QUOTE=Popper1]Yesterday had four rounds with two different gals in Pattaya. Found this one outside a 7/11 in South Pattaya. 22 years old and huge tits. Pictures are a bit grainy and taken with my pretty dated cell phone. Anyway you get the idea. Was a tiger in the sack and had two rounds for 700 baht.
Damn I hate Pattaya.
Popper
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Thanks for the tips Hotman and Sammon, I am new to Thailand so thanks for the advice. My plan when and if I do get over there is to meet up with a nice girl and just have a GFE if possible, buy the girl trinkets, go to dinner, have her show me around, catch a film and I not that bothered about sex tbh. I have reached a point where I am not bothered anymore and the last three girls I was with in Europe I just had a massage and talked.... weird I know!!
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pattaya vs Phuket
Can you please put your thought to Phuket vs Pattaya for two weeks in terms of girls variety, hotties, activities, money, expansive cheap, etc.
Classic
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[QUOTE=Classic Cars]Can you please put your thought to Phuket vs Pattaya for two weeks in terms of girls variety, hotties, activities, money, expansive cheap, etc.
Classic[/QUOTE]OK. Pattaya wins. Period.
Popper
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Time Shares in Pattaya - Jontien
I do appreciate the feedback, and completely agree.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]if broken down over ten years at 1700 prorated initial fee + 50/day, he ends up paying $171/day for each day he stays. How many places in Pattaya cost this much? My room is only $1500/yr or $4/day and I own it 365 days. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I'm off Pattaya Klang. 4000 baht/month x 12 months = 48,000 baht/year by 32 baht/US$= US$1500/year by 365 days/year = US$4.10/day.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Arjay]You are correct. 1.5 Million baht could have bought an ocean view studio with outright ownership. Condo maintenance fees are ridiculously low and no property tax yet![/QUOTE]Popper
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]I would hate to dissuade any one from posting pictures of girls, but the ones you posted are unviewable. Three come thru as completely black, others so dark I could not tell what they were supposed to be.
Glad you had fun and press on.
Thanks,
Slim[/QUOTE]Think youre implying that I retire my beloved six/seven year old Sony-Ericsson cell phone.
Popper
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[QUOTE=Freeler]Popper,
Glad she made you happy, but....
If you call those large, then what do you call these?
BTW They came at B150 a piece in "low quality" (thanks for the quote Opebo!) Isaan[/QUOTE]Freeler --- [b]you win[/b]. BTW: I've been reading what you say for countless years now and love your posts.
I will PM once I get a subscription.
Thanks,
Popper
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Hands down
Classic,
Pattaya wins hands down on the on the pussy front: availability, price, quality, selection... Pattaya also has a much larger variety of hotels and guest houses.
If you have a need for other kind natural beauty, Phuket beats Pattaya not just hands down, but by miles and miles - beaches, boat trips and much nicer surroundings in general.
On average I would say that anything you can find in Pattaya is 30-50% more expensive in Phuket (if available...).
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[QUOTE=Classic Cars]Phuket vs Pattaya for two weeks[/QUOTE]Don't even think of spending 2 weeks Phuket is chix are you primary purpose.
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GFE for a First Time visitor!
[QUOTE=Winthorp]My plan when and if I do get over there is to meet up with a nice girl and just have a GFE if possible, [/QUOTE]
Winthorp,
If this is REALLY what you are looking for then my advice is to start checking some of the dating sites several weeks, or months before you go. You can then narrow it down to “a few” potentials and arrange to meet them when you arrive.
Probably (for your requirements) and, as a NEWBEE, this would be much better than the “hit or miss” of just expecting to find a GFE when you get to Thailand.
I am not the best person to advise you which are the best dating sites but I am sure that if you RTFF and then perhaps post questions re Dating Sites then you will get some response.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
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[QUOTE=Arjay]Super Baby A-Go-Go caters more to Japanese & Korean xpats working in Thailand. I know I live here and the Thai owner Pratip is my friend. Don't expect GFE girls are mercenary. Most do 3 bar fine ST's/per night but, they got some of the cutest ones working there![/QUOTE]
Well, I don't know about the no GFEs from SB. I took a cutie form there and we had a great time and she definitely provided GFE. Ended up taking her twice and I still have her number.
In the end it's all about how you treat these girls. Be easy going, fun and flirt with them and they will respond.Also helps to be a little generous (i.e. buy them dinner or something before going off to the sack). I made her dinner back at my place and after that she was mine.
Still at 2500 LT on top of the barfine it is damn expensive. Plenty of cheaper options. Though the quality at Sb and SG is outstanding. You can find the dame quality but it will require some searching and effort.
Incidentally she told me that most of the girls prefer Asian guys because they had smaller peckers and this caused less depreciation on their assets. LOL
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[QUOTE=Winthorp]Thanks for the tips Hotman and Sammon, I am new to Thailand so thanks for the advice. My plan when and if I do get over there is to meet up with a nice girl and just have a GFE if possible, buy the girl trinkets, go to dinner, have her show me around, catch a film and I not that bothered about sex tbh. I have reached a point where I am not bothered anymore and the last three girls I was with in Europe I just had a massage and talked.... weird I know!![/QUOTE]
Since you don't have the time to do the internet thing I'd recommend Walking Street Disco, at the end of Walking Street, just before beach Road starts.
See my posts for details. It feels a lot more like picking up girls at home. See my posts from a month or so back for details.
Happy hunting and remember to post your experiences!
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In the end it's all about how you treat these girls. Be easy going, fun and flirt with them and they will respond.Also helps to be a little generous (i.e. buy them dinner or something before going off to the sack). I made her dinner back at my place and after that she was mine.
UV, you are so right, I always ask the girls if they are hungry or thirsty before going back to my hotel "loom" and it does work wonders. I have often gotten a double-take from many of the girls as they can't believe I am serious. I'm not talking about some expensive place, maybe just food from a street vendor or stopping by 7-11 or Family Mart for something to eat or drink. I have rarely run into problems with girls, e.g. runners, etc and have only been bummed out about performance very few times. Even a modicum of respect for the lady goes a long way, and anyway IMHO it is the right thing to do.
Incidentally she told me that most of the girls prefer Asian guys because they had smaller peckers and this caused less depreciation on their assets. LOL[/QUOTE]
Regarding Asians,I have been told this by some of my regulars as well.
UV, you are so right, I always ask the girls if they are hungry or thirsty before going back to my hotel "loom" and it does work wonders. I have often gotten a double-take from many of the girls as they can't believe I am serious. I'm not talking about some expensive place, maybe just food from a street vendor or stopping by 7-11 or Family Mart for something to eat or drink. I have rarely run into problems with girls, e.g. runners, etc and have only been bummed out about performance very few times. Even a modicum of respect for the lady goes a long way, and anyway IMHO it is the right thing to do.
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[QUOTE=Winthorp]Thanks for the tips Hotman and Sammon, I am new to Thailand so thanks for the advice. My plan when and if I do get over there is to meet up with a nice girl and just have a GFE if possible, buy the girl trinkets, go to dinner, have her show me around, catch a film and I not that bothered about sex tbh. I have reached a point where I am not bothered anymore and the last three girls I was with in Europe I just had a massage and talked.... weird I know!![/QUOTE]
If you are not interested in sex how are you going to get a GFE?
Sex bonds people. Once you make a girl very happy she is very likely to be a GFE. I think if can afford it it is better of calling escort services and pay their prices and I am sure they will accomodate you. Why come to thailand and not interested in sex? If you are into touristy thing only maybe it is better check around in the net for group single travel etc and you get to see the place and at the same time will not be alone.
By the way this forum is for sexual mongers-definitely not a platonic dating site.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]If you are not interested in sex how are you going to get a GFE?
Sex bonds people. Once you make a girl very happy she is very likely to be a GFE. I think if can afford it it is better of calling escort services and pay their prices and I am sure they will accomodate you. Why come to thailand and not interested in sex? If you are into touristy thing only maybe it is better check around in the net for group single travel etc and you get to see the place and at the same time will not be alone.
By the way this forum is for sexual mongers-definitely not a platonic dating site.[/QUOTE]
I was in Asia before just not Thailand, and I also plan to see some of natural beauty of the country! I have good GFE's before with escorts and I would be going out to Thailand for about three weeks so also as a single traveller this amount of time gets boring, repetitive and lonely! I am not too interested in dating and the whole mail-order-bride thing, I just think if I go to the LOS I want to find a gorgeaus Thai companion, have fun, do touristy stuff and if it feels right maybe sleep toghether.
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[QUOTE=Booey]Even a modicum of respect for the lady goes a long way, and anyway IMHO it is the right thing to do.[/QUOTE]
Indeed it is, you are a good man.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]buy them dinner[/QUOTE]You mean they boom boom AND eat; who knew?
Ps IMHO, that feeding them thing (prior to anyway) is just silly but I guess everyone at the beginning of their mongering "career" has to try it once.
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44 incher from Isaan
D Cup,
I found her 7 years ago, then rediscovered her on a dark, rainy night three years ago. Only on this trip I got her phone number and... address.
Sharing that very v-a-l-u-a-b-l-e information just doesn't seem like a very good idea to me.
I'm sure you understand!
Freeler
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Why not phils
[QUOTE=Winthorp]Am thinking of taking a trip over to Thailand this year, can anyone explain to me how ST and LT works? Is there like an industry standard of ST for an hour and LT for all night or it is down to each girl herself? What is the STI rate there like also?[/QUOTE]
The food, acomodation and bar girl scene is much better in Thailand but for GFE you would be MUCH better off going to the Phils
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[QUOTE=Winthorp]I was in Asia before just not Thailand, and I also plan to see some of natural beauty of the country! I have good GFE's before with escorts and I would be going out to Thailand for about three weeks so also as a single traveller this amount of time gets boring, repetitive and lonely! I am not too interested in dating and the whole mail-order-bride thing, I just think if I go to the LOS I want to find a gorgeaus Thai companion, have fun, do touristy stuff and if it feels right maybe sleep toghether.[/QUOTE]I would still recommend you the dating sites. Just state clearly what you want and spend some time online. If you are not obese or not looking for a girl more than lets say 25 years your minor you should be able to find a girl. Just first spend some days with her in Bangkok or her home town before starting travelling around. If you only find out after a couple of days that you don´t want all of your trip with her it will be easier to get rid of her.
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Landmark
On my previous trip to Pattaya I stayed on LK Metro.
Wanting to sample the delights of soi 6, I would take a baht bus down second road.
I managed to miss Soi 6 twice, and ended up having to walk to back to Soi 6 from Soi 2,3 or 4.
Those Soi numbers are so damned hard to spot from a moving vehicle!!
Is there a landmark i can utilise, to stop at the right street?
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[QUOTE=Chachi420]On my previous trip to Pattaya I stayed on LK Metro.
Wanting to sample the delights of soi 6, I would take a baht bus down second road.
I managed to miss Soi 6 twice, and ended up having to walk to back to Soi 6 from Soi 2,3 or 4.
Those Soi numbers are so damned hard to spot from a moving vehicle!!
Is there a landmark i can utilise, to stop at the right street?[/QUOTE]
Hard to miss with all the girls sitting out in front of the bars but although not exactly at Soi 6 use you can use McDonalds Restaurant as your landmark. It will be on the left side of the street, once you see it get off there and walk back a few meters to Soi 6.
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Landmark
[QUOTE=Chachi420]On my previous trip to Pattaya I stayed on LK Metro.
Wanting to sample the delights of soi 6, I would take a baht bus down second road.
I managed to miss Soi 6 twice, and ended up having to walk to back to Soi 6 from Soi 2,3 or 4.
Those Soi numbers are so damned hard to spot from a moving vehicle!!
Is there a landmark i can utilise, to stop at the right street?[/QUOTE]
Just before Soi 6 is Soi6/1
Straight across the street (2nd road) is a large Siam Bank branch with their Sign high in the air.
On the same side of the street (2nd road) and immediately before Soi 6/1 is a small office complex. Look for a big yellow sign that says "Aesthetica". Some kind of skin care probably. Anyway, when you get to that you are about 50 meters prior to the entrance to Soi 6.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Hard to miss with all the girls sitting out in front of the bars but although not exactly at Soi 6 use you can use McDonalds Restaurant as your landmark. It will be on the left side of the street, once you see it get off there and walk back a few meters to Soi 6.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you would think the girls would be a give-away, but for some reason i never spotted them from the bus. Probably the angle I was sat at.
Run Mann and Slackslacker, thank you for your efforts.
May the Good Lord furnish you with the contact details of many naive, rich nymphomaniac, three hole, bi-sexual college girls.
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Soi 6 location
[QUOTE=Chachi420]On my previous trip to Pattaya I stayed on LK Metro.
Wanting to sample the delights of soi 6, I would take a baht bus down second road.
I managed to miss Soi 6 twice, and ended up having to walk to back to Soi 6 from Soi 2,3 or 4.
Those Soi numbers are so damned hard to spot from a moving vehicle!!
Is there a landmark i can utilise, to stop at the right street?[/QUOTE]
I always just say to the driver "Soi 6". and he knows exactly and stops at the right location.
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If you see a McDonalds on the left, which is the same side as Soi 6, jump off and walk back 2 minutes to Soi 6 and the 'handsome man' fun begins.
[QUOTE=Chachi420]On my previous trip to Pattaya I stayed on LK Metro.
Wanting to sample the delights of soi 6, I would take a baht bus down second road.
I managed to miss Soi 6 twice, and ended up having to walk to back to Soi 6 from Soi 2,3 or 4.
Those Soi numbers are so damned hard to spot from a moving vehicle!!
Is there a landmark i can utilise, to stop at the right street?[/QUOTE]
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Newbie questions
[QUOTE=Winthorp]Am thinking of taking a trip over to Thailand this year, can anyone explain to me how ST and LT works? Is there like an industry standard of ST for an hour and LT for all night or it is down to each girl herself? What is the STI rate there like also?[/QUOTE]Wintrip,
Is this a newbie questions ST is short time one shot you are done time is up and LT is all night multi shot, any more questions can you figure it out or just go there and find out yourself.
Fast Eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Just before Soi 6 is Soi6/1
Straight across the street (2nd road) is a large Siam Bank branch with their Sign high in the air.[/QUOTE]
Good advice ... except that it's the main Pattaya branch of the Bangkok Bank -- not Siam Commercial Bank.
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Greek
I'm wondering how to ask if a girl offers anal? I want to ask as discreetly and politely as possible, and have had problems in the past relating my desires to Thai girls. Is there a Thai word that i could maybe whisper in her ear to get my request across?
Any help would be appreciated.
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[QUOTE=Jon Miller]I'm wondering how to ask if a girl offers anal? I want to ask as discreetly and politely as possible, and have had problems in the past relating my desires to Thai girls. Is there a Thai word that i could maybe whisper in her ear to get my request across?
Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
How 'bout this, Jon:
"boom-boom doodt mai?"
Good luck,
Daddy
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Report from Last Night
Just a quick report from yesterday, for all yous back in the States. Read and weep.
This trip been here almost 2 weeks, averaging 1. 5 gals a day. Nearly dry when coming. Probably should slow down, but won't. As my long standing belief, bar fines and LDs are for suckers and noobs only. I've done perhaps 5 in five years, and then only when with friends.
Had two gals yesterday. First went to a place called Pump Station (Soi Post Office?). Gal was super cute, and had small perky breasts. In past they always gave BBBJ. For the first time ever, had a condom put on and she began blowing. It probably just as well, since I've had some infections from BBBJs before. Anyway, that turned to a hand job, and she was pumping for over 30 minutes. Thinking that vitamin see works pretty well. To help relive the pain of her arm and mouth, I kindly offered to boom boom her, but she would not. Oh well. At the end, her arm and mouth was exhausted and she commented how strong I am. For me, at 830 baht (which did include a ST room) was the most expensive and worst I've had thus far. Not to say it a bad experience, just the worst so far this trip.
Then last evening about 1:30 AM decided to find a gal. My hotel is in S. Pattaya so not a problem. Countless gals walking around. Within 20 minutes offered one 500 and she quickly took it. She from Chang Mai. Very white skin, 29 years, large breasts, and taller than most. Does work as a hair stylist and bla bla bla. Gave BBBJ which was average at best. We did cow girl, missionary, and doggy. Banged her hard. Would not let me 3-hole her. Like before, it took me a very long time to come.
Damn I hate Pattaya.
Popper
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[QUOTE=Jon Miller]I'm wondering how to ask if a girl offers anal? I want to ask as discreetly and politely as possible, and have had problems in the past relating my desires to Thai girls. Is there a Thai word that i could maybe whisper in her ear to get my request across?
Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
You can also use which is the way I ask... len dtuut mai ( the mai is question word )
LBM
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[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Wintrip,
Is this a newbie questions ST is short time one shot you are done time is up and LT is all night multi shot, any more questions can you figure it out or just go there and find out yourself.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I think there is variation and one needs to be wise to scams. Like trying to limit LT to 2 shots or girl tries to go at 5/6am. Or earlier.
I remember one member creating 'Medium times' of 4 hours. Its all negotiable.
How do we let them know using a mobile phone is bad.
On bar fines, I noticed girls lining up to get their cut from the 600bt bar fine. Something like 220 bt. Can someone explain.
I can believe ST is now 1 shot and that's it, but once upon a time it was 2 hours and 2 shots, and the girl would be professionally embarrassed if she could not get you off a 2nd time and that was when barfines were 300 or so bt. (excluding soi6 like places).
I have a notepad that details my prescription of expectations. Including no smoking, no mobile phone over 30 seconds. It works 50% of the time and 50 % girl tries to alter the deal. Next time I will state I will come back to the same bar and butterfly another, stating that one was 'not good'.
This comes back down to motivation. I must test if giving out undies works well, as an alternative to ladydrink, beads or slipping a 50bt directly, as members have previously mentioned.
Buying GF a handbag is a definite no-no, a girl then wants to go out and show it off, so promising to buy it in the morning not evening is a smarter bet.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Good advice ... except that it's the main Pattaya branch of the Bangkok Bank -- not Siam Commercial Bank.[/QUOTE]
Sorry about that, got my banks confused.
Thanks for the correct info Daddy
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anal for the asking
[QUOTE=Jon Miller]I'm wondering how to ask if a girl offers anal? I want to ask as discreetly and politely as possible, and have had problems in the past relating my desires to Thai girls. Is there a Thai word that i could maybe whisper in her ear to get my request across?
Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE
I assume you will be asking a professional.
Therefore discreet and polite are not required for her, maybe only for you.
Almost certainly she speaks some english, especially sex-english.
I phrase my question like this:
"Can I fuck your ass"?
Never been misunderstood.
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Pattaya Trip – August 2010
Hi all, I have just come back from a 3 week trip to Pattaya and thought I would share my experiences and also ask some questions of the more experienced forum members. A little about me first; I am 56 years old, divorced (6 years), 5'4" and a little overweight a typical Pattaya Farang. This is my 5th trip to Pattaya. On the first 4 trips I was only with (one) the same girl and on the last trip only had 3 girls. I have only ever picked up girls on Beach Road and never taken a girl out of a bar or GoGo bar although came close on the last trip in Bangkok at Soi Cowboy.
Friday – 6th August
Arrived at my hotel (Sandy Spring – Soi 13) at about 1:30 am (local time) and checked in. I was determined to get a girl for the night so almost immediately went out to Beach Road to see what was about. Surprisingly, still quite a few girls about but no real quality not that that was important at that time. All I was looking for was a long slow suck and to come in the girls mouth and then get some sleep next to a warm body. Walked north up to Mikes Shopping Mall and did notice a reasonable looking girl on the shop's side of the road. It seems that the girls were all standing on the non-beach side of the road. Turned back with intent to speak to the girl I spotted and noticed this other girl, a touch shorter than me with big tit's so decided to approach her instead. She had a nice body, good legs (don't they all), and a little older than I would normally prefer but as I said I had specific needs and was not to fussed. She said her name was Eat. I told her exactly what I was looking for which she agreed to and negotiated a fee of 1000 THB and that she would stay at least until 12:00 the next day, so back to the hotel. On the was stopped by the 7/11 for some water; asked Eat if she needed anything and she asked for some beer, I said ok get what you want and she got a large bottle of Chang which she ended up drinking all of it. Had a shower and when I finished found her on the balcony drinking the beer and having a smoke. Don't smoke and would not knowingly pick a girl that smokes. She then said that she needed to go out for 5 minutes to see her friend, had to give her a key or some money (didn't really care) I said ok and she went leaving her bag in the room. She was out for at least half an hour or perhaps more which pissed me off a little. Back in the room she said 'sorry sorry' and then had a shower and came to bed. In bed she was a little fidgety, nice to the feel and seemed a little Horney. She then gave me a little bit of a blow job but didn't seem keen on going for too long. Then said "put on condom" and despite my protest kept repeating it. Didn't feel like arguing so did and we fucked which was ok but not great. For me to really enjoy I need to be worked up a little. Then she asked "do you want to fuck me in the bum, give me more money". I asked how much and she asked for an extra 500 THB and agreed. Got out the KY and did the deed which I must say I did enjoy. After that she went to the bathroom to clean-up and I was so tired that all I wanted to do was sleep. Out of the bathroom Eat went out to the balcony for a smoke and then came to bed. She was so fidgety that I couldn't fall asleep so told her (nicely – more of a suggestion) that she get dressed and go home. At first she didn't want to but then changed her mind and off she went and left me her phone number. During the night she explained that she worked in a bar in Naklua (Tiger Beer Bar) and didn't come to the beach all that often and had only been doing anal for 3 months. I think that she got the wrong impression as when leaving she said that she would pop by after the bar closed tonight which I did not want as I was looking for something different and a little bit more quality. Nevertheless, she was a good little package but not exactly what I was looking for. What did I learn – (1) ask if they smoke up-front; (2) make sure they understand what you want and stick to it.
More later.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker][QUOTE=Jon Miller]I phrase my question like this:
"Can I fuck your ass"?[/QUOTE]As a trained linguist I modestly like to think that I have a pretty good ear as to when someone gets an utterance exactly right. And that's exactly right.
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[QUOTE=Trantinr]...She then said that she needed to go out for 5 minutes to see her friend, had to give her a key or some money (didn't really care)... She was out for at least half an hour .. In bed she was a little fidgety.. She was so fidgety that I couldn't fall asleep[/QUOTE]
Sounds like she went out to smoke ya-ba. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I'd say it makes for better short-times but probably worse long-times. I can't imagine sleeping next to a girl you just picked up on Beach Road! (you're a braver man than I am).
[QUOTE=Popper1]...As my long standing belief, bar fines and LDs are for suckers and noobs only. I've done perhaps 5 in five years, and then only when with friends.
Had two gals yesterday. First went to a place called Pump Station (Soi Post Office?). Gal was super cute, and had small perky breasts. In past they always gave BBBJ. For the first time ever, had a condom put on and she began blowing... was the most expensive and worst I've had thus far.[/QUOTE]
The Pump Station is even more for suckers and noobs, Popper - that place at 830 baht is ridiculously overpriced for just a BJ. Certainly anyone who gets hit the the demand of a condom there should get up and walk out.
But I'm with you on the 'insufficient juice' problem - on most of my Pattaya visits (usually only a few days), I undergo at least one or two 'boom-boom too long but can't finish' situations.
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Standards for ST and LT
[QUOTE=Hotman 666]This is Thailand you are talking about! THERE ARE NO STANDARDS (FOR ANYTHING!)
What a WG may (seem to) agree to at the negotiation stage and what happens in reality may be completely different.
I have been with 500 Baht girls who have been happy to stay with me for several hours, or even over night. I have also had the occasional bad experience of a girl (after agreeing to a price for long time) wanting to leave after an hour or so.
However YMMV with the same girl, on the same day, at the same price!!!!!!
Don’t try to figure out Thai logic (There is none!) Just RTFF, buy your ticket and ENJOY!
Hotman.[/QUOTE]Ok I've been going to Thailand for a long time now, since the early 70's, and in my experience if a girl renegs on an agreement, like wants to leave after one pop for st and one hour and we agreed on 2 hrs 2 pops, then I offer her half the rate. Its as simple as that. Usually they stay for another hour and try really hard to get that second pop as they don't think they will get all their money if they don't. I believe this is very fair after all they are trying to basically rob you by leaving early.
Happy pooning,
Wangho6969
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Where?
[QUOTE=Popper1]Just a quick report from yesterday, for all yous back in the States. Read and weep.
This trip been here almost 2 weeks, averaging 1. 5 gals a day. Nearly dry when coming. Probably should slow down, but won't. As my long standing belief, bar fines and LDs are for suckers and noobs only. I've done perhaps 5 in five years, and then only when with friends.
Had two gals yesterday. First went to a place called Pump Station (Soi Post Office?). Gal was super cute, and had small perky breasts. In past they always gave BBBJ. For the first time ever, had a condom put on and she began blowing. It probably just as well, since I've had some infections from BBBJs before. Anyway, that turned to a hand job, and she was pumping for over 30 minutes. Thinking that vitamin see works pretty well. To help relive the pain of her arm and mouth, I kindly offered to boom boom her, but she would not. Oh well. At the end, her arm and mouth was exhausted and she commented how strong I am. For me, at 830 baht (which did include a ST room) was the most expensive and worst I've had thus far. Not to say it a bad experience, just the worst so far this trip.
Then last evening about 1:30 AM decided to find a gal. My hotel is in S. Pattaya so not a problem. Countless gals walking around. Within 20 minutes offered one 500 and she quickly took it. She from Chang Mai. Very white skin, 29 years, large breasts, and taller than most. Does work as a hair stylist and bla bla bla. Gave BBBJ which was average at best. We did cow girl, missionary, and doggy. Banged her hard. Would not let me 3-hole her. Like before, it took me a very long time to come.
Damn I hate Pattaya.
Popper[/QUOTE]What is the name of your hotel. I am going down there in September and I would like to stay near the action. Do they charge extra for the girls.
Thank you
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Pattaya Trip – August 2010
Friday – 6th August (cont...)
Went out at about 7:00 pm and walked along Beach Road towards Walking Street, not much talent about and not sure why, maybe just too early. Had a meal on South Pattaya Road and then thought I would check out Walking Street as previous forum reports said that FL’s were also to be found there but also nothing there either. However, I did spot a few Russian FL’s and I question who would bother with them, compared to their Thai counterparts these girls just don’t compare. From there to Pattaya Beer Garden which was pretty full with some decent lookers but most appear paired-up and was not confident that I knew how the system worked so moved on. Back to Beach Road and the quality of stock had improved. Oh, on the way down did spot a likely girl and did see her again but she was talking to some guy so kept moving. Spotted a nice looking younger girl and sat next to her. About my height and not your usual skinny Thai girl, not fat just comfortable. Her English was not the best and her name as best I could make out was Cat. Asked for LT and she quoted 1,500 THB and naturally I said too expensive and made a move to get up when she reduced her price to 1,000 THB. Then she looked at her watch and said she would stay with me until 5:00 am, not sure what that meant, must be something they learn when they start working the Beach. She did manage to make me understand that she was 20, had only been in Pattaya for 10 days (believe it) and came from Bangkok where she worked at the Toshiba factory but could not understand what she did there. In the room had a shower and then suggested that she take one which to surprise she didn’t want to take, strange for a Thai girl and had to force her. In bed she was a little bit of a wet fish and again only interested in getting the condom on and doing the deed. She was tight and I did enjoy the act. Not sure what time I woke up and asked her as a joke “what happened to 5:00” to which she had no answer. Wanted another round but she resisted and I’m not one to push (silly of me I know) so told her to get up, shower and go but she wanted to stay until 12:00 but insisted so that was that. Cat was nice looking, tight, good to the touch but a little strange. Oh, she started calling me ting-tong which I later found out means ‘crazy’; anyway that’s my Thai word for this trip.
Question – how does the Pattaya Beer Garden work? I know that there is something with the colour of the coasters (green = yes; red = no) but what happens when you sit down with a green coaster in front of you. Do the girls come to you or are you meant to make eye contact, can someone help.
More soon.
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Did you pay up front??
[QUOTE=Timmylamb] ............................., went to super baby go go again, did not drink much so I was fully coherent, picked a nice young cuty, 600bht bar fine, 1500bht ST fee, I should have read the reports on super baby go go before I went, as I was disappointed with the CBJ, performance was blah, after all the no's to my request I just said please go, no to kissing, no to licking my ear, no to kissing my neck, no to me even seeing her poon, no to me touching anything, only thing she would do was CG position, needless to say I didn't finish nor did I tip, at least she knew the answer if she would have asked for a tip, she was astute enough to see my displeasure as she said I don't think your ok with this, I said just leave.[/QUOTE]Did you pay the girls fee up front with the bar-fine?? If so, that could explain the terrible results you got. IMHO, paying girls fee up front in a BB or go-go or with a free-lancer is NOT recommended.
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[QUOTE=Winthorp]Am thinking of taking a trip over to Thailand this year, can anyone explain to me how ST and LT works? Is there like an industry standard of ST for an hour and LT for all night or it is down to each girl herself? What is the STI rate there like also?[/QUOTE]My observations are that ST usually is 2 hours or so and LT is over night. In beer-bars the BF is usually 200-300B and BG is 500ST/1000LT
Go-go's BF is usually 500-600B and go-go girls are usually 1000ST/1500LT
I have no idea what the STI rate is; but I would imagine it is high. Condoms are strongly recommended!
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Hotel
[QUOTE=Trantinr]Arrived at my hotel (Sandy Spring – Soi 13) at about 1:30 am (local time) and checked in.
More later.[/QUOTE]Trantinr, thanks for the report. How did you like the sandy spring? Was it clean? Good air-con? Any positives? Any problems, etc?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Majestic1967]What is the name of your hotel. I am going down there in September and I would like to stay near the action. Do they charge extra for the girls.
Thank you[/QUOTE]There are countless hotels in South Pattaya (and all over Pattaya for that matter) under 1000 baht. The one I am staying at is only 500 baht -- with AC, cable, nice large bed, wi-fi, and it clean. I have not even tied to negotiate cheaper pricing (as I should). Anyone who pays over 1000 baht is just paying ding-dong farang pricing IMO.
A little shoe leather goes a long way.
Popper
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“All you touch and all you see, Is all your life will ever be.”
-- Pink Floyd
Jackson, I am willing to make this deal. I will go around Pattaya and check hotel pricing. I will list least 30 hotels and probably far more. Thinking of going S. Pattaya, Soi Bekow, Central, Soi 8, and North Pattaya. It will realistically take me at least a week to do this. I will list names, e-mails, pricing, etc. This will be incredibly valuable information, however I want it to have a separate thread.
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Okay, here it is:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3145
Thanks,
Jackson
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[QUOTE=Trantinr]Question – how does the Pattaya Beer Garden work? I know that there is something with the colour of the coasters (green = yes; red = no) but what happens when you sit down with a green coaster in front of you. Do the girls come to you or are you meant to make eye contact, can someone help.[/QUOTE]Funny you mention this. Spoke to this guy yesterday of my new church. This is the church of [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Tourists, Suckers, and Noobs[/b]. And I believe he is now a convert.
Anyway, we were BSing and he told me of Beer Garden. I thought I must be living under a rock, cause I've been going to Pattaya since 1998 and never heard of the place. I knew of the Been Garden from BKK (two of them as I recall), but never knew of one in Pattaya. Go that place where Beach Road hits the entrance of Walking Street. Those fake Thai boxing where all those bar beers are. Walk down to the pier.
Was really shocked. Nice place. Now, last night was my first time ever there. Here is what I learned of the place. And again, my total experience there was in total only two hours, so corrections are appreciated.
* It is outdoors right on the beach. Air is fresh and cool. TVs often play 80s rock videos (Inx, etc).
* Best time for a large selection of girls is 7-8 PM.
* I was there at 11M. More than enough gals there. Generally a step above those I've seen in past.
* The food was pretty good. Slightly pricey (but do keep in mind that I cheap charlie at heart). I had a nice fish for about 250 baht.
* If you go, have the gal order your drink for you. If the gal orders you a beer, price is 40 baht. If you farang order a beer price is 70 baht.
* I ** gasp** bought two gals lady drinks. However, this in no way contradicts my religion of [b]no lady drinks[/b] since they were freelancers. They bought me two Heinekens for 40 baht each (with my money) and saved me farang 30 baht each.
* Many gals readily available.
I know nothing at all of those "coaster" you mentioned above. Lots of gals there to chat up. Just smile and say Hi. Found a gal named Jin. This was strange, on her orgasm she began to cry almost uncontrollably. She said it "a mental problem". On the second orgasm she just blankly stared at the wall. Never had this before (I mean the crying after orgasm). What is this?
Oh yea. Oh, if there is a Mark from Miami reading this, thank you for giving Jin a monthly salary. She really appreciates it. Mark, Jin is an excellent lay. Thanks again!
BTW: Can others recommend other places as Beer Garden. I know of Lucifers, Tony's (outrageously & stoopidly overpriced), Mixx, Xzyte (far).
Popper
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker][QUOTE=Jon Miller]I assume you will be asking a professional.
Therefore discreet and polite are not required for her, maybe only for you.
Almost certainly she speaks some english, especially sex-english.
I phrase my question like this:
"Can I fuck your ass"?
Never been misunderstood.[/QUOTE]
LOL... but seriously, I guess the question should be 'are you more likely to get a positive response to the anal question if you politely and discreetly phrase the approach in Thai rather than blurting out "can I fuck your ass?"
It figures that the more hardcore girls don't give a damn how you phrase it but in the case of the floating (no pun intended) middle ground with less hardcore girls or even newbies straight off the bus, the manner of the approach may just tip the balance - no?
Or is that not the Thai mentallity?
Any clue anyone?
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[QUOTE=Doppel One][QUOTE=Slackerslacker]
LOL... but seriously, I guess the question should be 'are you more likely to get a positive response to the anal question if you politely and discreetly phrase the approach in Thai rather than blurting out "can I fuck your ass?"
It figures that the more hardcore girls don't give a damn how you phrase it but in the case of the floating (no pun intended) middle ground with less hardcore girls or even newbies straight off the bus, the manner of the approach may just tip the balance - no?
Or is that not the Thai mentallity?
Any clue anyone?[/QUOTE]Dude. We are talking about hookers here, not your new virgin GF. Anything that you want it is best to come out and say it. Like going to the barbershop you don't want any misunderstanding. You want it cut short on the sides, then tell them to cut it short on the sides. Don't try to play a guessing game. As Slacker said the girls understand, "Can I fuck your ass" best. Any lovey dovey shit is going to go in one ear and out the other. And IMHO it is the hardcore girls that will do the anal. From my observation the girls straight off the bus or the middle-grounders will not do anal and will tell you to go get a ladyboy if you want to fuck ass.
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[QUOTE=Trantinr]In the room had a shower and then suggested that she take one which to surprise she didn’t want to take, strange for a Thai girl and had to force her. In bed she was a little bit of a wet fish and again only interested in getting the condom on and doing the deed. Not sure what time I woke up and asked her as a joke “what happened to 5:00” to which she had no answer. Wanted another round but she resisted and I’m not one to push (silly of me I know) so told her to get up, shower and go but she wanted to stay until 12:00 but insisted so that was that. [/QUOTE]I agree. Really strange of a Thai girl to not want to shower before and after the deed. Maybe she thought you were going to try to rob her if she left her things alone with you. LOL.
You asked her what happened to her 5am departure time? Let's just assume that your place was much more comfortable than its alternative.
I'm not getting this. You wanted another round, say around 7am or so, which she would not give you. However she still insisted to use your room as Club Med until noon which you let her? Bullshit. After I was refused service she would have gotten the hell out of there or each hour of additional "motel time" would have been -100 baht from her agreed upon salary.
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D.One,
Since your too shy and don't seem to be the speaking type? Put some humor into it! If you like her then buy her a drink, when the drinks come around toast her and say Chok Dee! for good luck! now turn her around and rub her ass and then move to the button and give it a good push! Now turn her around again this time you should have a smile on your face with you tongue sticking out and to the side! Now say Dai Mai? ( can you? ).
If she say mai (no) she won't be mad since she at least got a drink out of you! If that a try and them come back to us with what happen?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational][QUOTE=Doppel One]Dude. We are talking about hookers here, not your new virgin GF. And IMHO it is the hardcore girls that will do the anal. From my observation the girls straight off the bus or the middle-grounders will not do anal and will tell you to go get a ladyboy if you want to fuck ass.[/QUOTE]
Mr. E and LBM,
Thanks for the advice guys and believe me I've done my fair share of ass gesticulating and playful prodding of the button while grinning beneignly in my time to unpick the lock... and with mixed results.
I was really wondering if someone out there has the secret key - the words that never fail - but on reflection I'm being a bit optimistic and it is a bit of a dumb question.
Obviously if the girl is a hardcore hooker I would just ask up front... but gaining access to those fresh asses, that's the challenge, right? Because its there. And someday, someone probably will conquor it, however virginal she appears, why shouldn't it be you or I, now?
Incidentally, Mr. E, I've absolutely nothing against hardcore hookers... I'm the monger who fucked the mamasan in the shack in Cambodia you mentioned in one of your posts a week or so ago. If you need any advice about the scene over there please PM me. Though Cambo is a bit dead these days and depressing as a result... unlike Soi 6 earlier tonight which was super rockin!!
Keep having fun. D1
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Second time in Thailand, first in Pattaya
so i have just finished my session upstairs in one of the bars in soi 6 (coming from the beach road it's one of the first on the left, girls wearing white and pink [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] outfits), and when the time comes to dress i playfully put on her bra (this always sends the girls into giggling fits as i have a very hairy chest). being herself a playful bunny she suggests we exchange clothes and go downstairs, which to her surprise i quickly accept.
down we go and everyone has a laugh, most of all the mamasan, who suggests i go out to try to lure customers in, which once again i do without hesitation. so now i'm outside the front door with the other girls, hollering "hello, sexy man! " to punters passing by.
this is not the best sex experience i had, but possibly the most representative of pattaya: a big adult theme park where anything sexual goes and you can really let yourself go.
all right, flashback to the beginning of my adventure.
i was in pattaya for 3 days and 3 nights, the first 2 by myself and the last one in a separate stint with my trusted monger buddy.
i landed in bkk in the early afternoon, jumped on my reserved taxi and 2 hours later i was deposited in front of my hotel, the mercure (see separate post).
after i settled in, unpacked and had a shower, i was ready for my first session: the devil's den, which i had booked days in advance, exactly in order to start my holiday with a bang.
[b][size=3][red]devil's den[/red][/b]
now, i must say i am not very satisfied with the dd management, but i won't bother you with the details and will leave this story for a later post.
cutting to the chase, i was entertained by joy and party and had a blast.
joy is probably half black, wild curly hair, tight body, small but round bum, takes it up the ass like it isn't hers. i seem to remember someone complained about her tits being saggy, which is not the case.
looks wise party is a very average girl, but also very willing to please.
now, i am not a threesome or dd expert, but very often i read about guys complaining that the service they received was mechanical.
18 months ago, half-way through my first eden (in bangkok) experience i thought the same, and during the second part of that session i took a more proactive role, asking for things and directing them a bit. night and day.
these girls are used to very strange requests and fetishes of all kinds, so i guess it shouldn't be a surprise that, if left with no clear requests with a "regular" guy, they kind of just repeat a pre-arranged script: i-suck-you-she-suck-me-you-fuck-my-ass-she-puts-finger-in-your-ass. willing to please, yes, but not involved.
this time around i prepared my own script, a kind of illustrated storyboard of how i wanted to spend my 1. 5 hours, which i submitted to the girls as soon as we got to the room.
just seeing the storyboard pics on my mobile was enough to grab their attention, and from then on they proved to be very involved, not only in realizing my own fantasy, but in having fun themselves.
paid the standard 3600 baht, added 300 in tips for each.
[b][size=3][red]go-go bars[/red][/b]
i visited those 10 or so which received the best reviews during the last year. all of them charge the same, with little to no room for negotiating: 600 bar-fine, 2000 st, 3000 lt.
some (dollhouse, peppermint, cavern, windmill) had few customers and little to no atmosphere, while for angelwitch i can confirm what some previous posters have said: good shows but no girls i would rate above average.
[b]superbaby + supergirls[/b]
i went expecting to find the best quality, but i left disappointed from both. i can see how the talent may appeal to our japanese brothers' taste (cute, shortish, not too slim, bigger than average boobs, make-up and hair done j style), but overall they were no match for some of the beauties around the other go-go bars.
[b]airport[/b]
together with baccara the one i liked the most. great atmosphere, cozy, pumping beats, great energy, plenty of girls in the limited space available, a soapy show, and most importantly the girls were very proactive in looking for a customer and offering their services.
during my second visit there i was stroking the underside of a firm breast while running a finger along a toned leg, when i noticed a very old gentleman doing the same on the couch opposite mine, and was thus reminded of what is possibly the best part of it all: even when decrepit i will still be able to shag 20 year old girls.
i'm in my early thirties, so as much as i enjoy now having sex with young birds, at the end of the day it's not something i am unused to or which i cannot regularly obtain without having to pay.
but to have the certainty that all of this will still be available to me when in my 60s and 70s. i felt a rush of joy and promptly relayed it to my buddy sitting next to me. we hugged and jumped up and down like kids, promising each other undying "best wingman status", and for a minute or two there i was at peace, both with the world and myself.
that is the effect that sex can have on the male mind, and if it isn't true that more available sex for everyone would solve criminality and wars, well it's pretty fucking close.
[b]baccara[/b]
of those i visited, the biggest and the one with the greater number of girls, both in absolute terms and in terms of very good looking ones. one girl was so tall and leggy she danced with flat shoes(!) and another one was, i believe, impossible not to fall head over heels for: quite tall, very athletic body, fake but well done boobs, shortish hair, and a big japanese koi tattoo which covered all of her back. unfortunately she had already been bar-fined, but she suggested another leggy friend who in fact proved to be a nice person and good in the sack.
if one wants to burn some baht on ping pong balls, i think baccara is the right place: girls stop dancing, start to scream excitedly, and will literally dive and fight among themselves for one.
[b]happy[/b]
packed with punters, and although it didn't have as many lookers as some of the others, i left this for last because out of the 17 girls i had during 14 days in the los, here i found the one i really liked and connected to.
1. 65 tall, no tattoos, average go-go girl english, probably around 25 years old, and a great, great ability to offer the gfe.
i had her for lt my second night, and booked her immediately for the third, even though it was going to be after 11 days away from pattaya.
no kids (no see scar at least), lives by herself in her own apartment, owns her own scooter which we rode back to my hotel. already i could tell she's a bit different from the usual isaan fare.
once in the room she didn't even acknowledge the tv, didn't open the fridge, didn't go straight for the shower. in fact we spent the better part of an hour chatting and frolicking around before we undressed each other. no pornstar dirty looks, no fake moans, and she was positively grateful when i made her come.
unblemished skin, fresh smelling pussy and ass.
a trooper too: our second time we went at it 4 times in 8 hours.
i kind of told her straight away i was no sponsor material, and she replied she was happy to have a good time with me for as long as it lasted. never asked for my mobile number or e-mail. the only vague reference to a relationship she ever made was the morning after our second night, when she said she hoped that in the next life we would both be reborn as people from the same country.
money very well spent.
[b][size=3][red]soi 6[/red][/b]
i went to soi 6 on two separate occasions, one by myself and then with my buddy.
sex aside, i think it's easier to have a good time with a wingman: girls are wild but their english very limited, so with a friend you can share and comment on the experience as it happens.
as reported plenty of ladyboys, some will grab you and try to force you to their bar, but at least during daytime it's all very playful and good spirited fun.
my first girl was barely legal (i asked to check her id to be sure), with a tiny tight body and an even tighter pussy. lots of smiles and an engaging personality. i thought she was very pretty overall, and i asked her why she works in soi 6 instead of a go-go bar: the answer was simple ("as soon as i learn to speak good english"), her eyes sparkling at the thought of all the money she's going to make.
the second girl is the one i mentioned at the beginning of my post, and you can see her face in the pic at the end.
a bit crazy, well versed in the sex arts, she liked to dance and accepted anal at no extra cost.
surprisingly, and for the standard 300 baht, the room was extremely good: big, tv, hifi, air con, mirrors, windows.
[b][size=3][red]the rest[/red][/b]
- i didn't visit any of the bars and especially soi 7 and 8 because beer bars it's all i did in samui.
- i didn't visit any of the clubs for lack of time and serious interest.
- i walked along the beach road a couple times but that's not my scene.
- i visited [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] which is a very nice establishment (looks recently refurbished, good pool table, internet station, arts on the walls.) but didn't partake as at the time i was completely drained of energy and juices.
[b][size=3][red]costs[/red][/b]
leaving aside transportation to and from pattaya, condoms and cialis, here is the breakdown of what 3 days costed me, considering i had 7 girls (dd x 2, soi 6 x 2, go-go x 3):
hotel:.5. 400
meals:.2. 600
transportation:.450
drinks for me:.4. 000
lady-drinks and ping pong baskets:.2. 500
bar-fines:.2. 400
girls:.13. 000
tips to girls:.1. 700
total: [b]32. 000[/b] baht, which is slightly less than what i budgeted while planning my holiday.
i think i placed my expenses in the middle: on one end various members of this forum have proved time and again that pattaya can be extremely cheap if you go the beach road way, on the other some of our japanese, middle eastern and russian brothers shell out 1000 baht notes like i do with the 100 ones.
as a final thought, i think in the future i'll visit pattaya again, because the place really rocks!
ryo
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nice trip
Hotel:. 5. 400
Meals:. 2. 600
Transportation:. 450
Drinks for me:. 4. 000
Lady-drinks and ping pong baskets:. 2. 500
Bar-fines:. 2. 400
Girls:. 13. 000
Tips to girls:. 1. 700
TOTAL: [b]32. 000[/b] baht, which is slightly less than what I budgeted while planning my holiday.
I think I placed my expenses in the middle: on one end various members of this forum have proved time and again that Pattaya can be extremely cheap if you go the Beach Road way, on the other some of our Japanese, Middle Eastern and Russian brothers shell out 1000 baht notes like I do with the 100 ones.
As a final thought, I think in the future I'll visit Pattaya again, because the place really rocks!
Ryo[/QUOTE]To RYO,
Look like you have a good time most ISG member here will say that you overpay for everything, but if you have a deep pocket and treat yourself to a great time, my last trip a few week ago 4 night my cost is about 14, 000 bht for everything and I think I over spend USD is weak an everything is up.
Fast Eddie 48
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Devil's Den
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba]Cutting to the chase, I was entertained by Joy and Party and had a blast.
Now, I am not a threesome or DD expert, but very often I read about guys complaining that the service they received was mechanical.
18 months ago, half-way through my first Eden (in Bangkok) experience I thought the same, and during the second part of that session I took a more proactive role, asking for things and directing them a bit. Night and day.
These girls are used to very strange requests and fetishes of all kinds, so I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that, if left with no clear requests with a "regular" guy, they kind of just repeat a pre-arranged script: I-suck-you-she-suck-me-you-fuck-my-ass-she-puts-finger-in-your-ass. Willing to please, yes, but not involved.
This time around I prepared my own script, a kind of illustrated storyboard of how I wanted to spend my 1. 5 hours, which I submitted to the girls as soon as we got to the room.
Just seeing the storyboard pics on my mobile was enough to grab their attention, and from then on they proved to be very involved, not only in realizing my own fantasy, but in having fun themselves.
Paid the standard 3600 baht, added 300 in tips for each.[/QUOTE]
That was an entertaining report Ryo. My first visit to DD was memorable and funny too because one of my girls (Gik - a little darling by the way) wanted to fu*k me with a 9 inch black strap on. Check out the episode of "Weeds" where Uncle Andy gets nailed by an Israeli chick. I declined the offer but I allowed her to finger fu*k my ass (using finger condoms) while the other girl sucked my dick and balls. It was an interesting experience.
You are right on the money about telling the girls what you want though. They will do just about anything with a big sexy smile on their faces, but sometimes they need direction. After the girls got me off the first time, I took over. First we had another soapy shower sandwich and then we retired to the bed where Gik and I made out passionately while the 2nd girl, whose name escapes me, rode me cowgirl. What can I say? I guess I am an old fashion kind of guy.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Funny you mention this. Spoke to this guy yesterday of my new church. This is the church of [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Tourists, Suckers, and Noobs[/b]. And I believe he is now a convert.
Anyway, we were BSing and he told me of Beer Garden. I thought I must be living under a rock, cause I've been going to Pattaya since 1998 and never heard of the place. I knew of the Been Garden from BKK (two of them as I recall), but never knew of one in Pattaya. Go that place where Beach Road hits the entrance of Walking Street. Those fake Thai boxing where all those bar beers are. Walk down to the pier.
Was really shocked. Nice place. Now, last night was my first time ever there. Here is what I learned of the place. And again, my total experience there was in total only two hours, so corrections are appreciated.
* It is outdoors right on the beach. Air is fresh and cool. TVs often play 80s rock videos (Inx, etc).
* Best time for a large selection of girls is 7-8 PM.
* I was there at 11M. More than enough gals there. Generally a step above those I've seen in past.
* The food was pretty good. Slightly pricey (but do keep in mind that I cheap charlie at heart). I had a nice fish for about 250 baht.
* If you go, have the gal order your drink for you. If the gal orders you a beer, price is 40 baht. If you farang order a beer price is 70 baht.
* I ** gasp** bought two gals lady drinks. However, this in no way contradicts my religion of [b]no lady drinks[/b] since they were freelancers. They bought me two Heinekens for 40 baht each (with my money) and saved me farang 30 baht each.
* Many gals readily available.
I know nothing at all of those "coaster" you mentioned above. Lots of gals there to chat up. Just smile and say Hi. Found a gal named Jin. This was strange, on her orgasm she began to cry almost uncontrollably. She said it "a mental problem". On the second orgasm she just blankly stared at the wall. Never had this before (I mean the crying after orgasm). What is this?
Oh yea. Oh, if there is a Mark from Miami reading this, thank you for giving Jin a monthly salary. She really appreciates it. Mark, Jin is an excellent lay. Thanks again!
BTW: Can others recommend other places as Beer Garden. I know of Lucifers, Tony's (outrageously & stoopidly overpriced), Mixx, Xzyte (far).
Popper[/QUOTE]
Good report Popper. I like the Beergarden and always go there on my visits.
Unless prices have changed, I have always found that the girls only receive a 5bt discount on drinks, not the larger amount you mentioned. I will check again when I re-visit later this month.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational][QUOTE=Doppel One]Dude. We are talking about hookers here, not your new virgin GF. Anything that you want it is best to come out and say it. Like going to the barbershop you don't want any misunderstanding. You want it cut short on the sides, then tell them to cut it short on the sides. Don't try to play a guessing game. As Slacker said the girls understand, "Can I fuck your ass" best. Any lovey dovey shit is going to go in one ear and out the other. And IMHO it is the hardcore girls that will do the anal. From my observation the girls straight off the bus or the middle-grounders will not do anal and will tell you to
go get a ladyboy if you want to fuck ass.[/QUOTE]
So true. I was told these exact words last Nov.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]
Jackson, I am willing to make this deal. I will go around Pattaya and check hotel pricing. I will list least 30 hotels and probably far more. Thinking of going S. Pattaya, Soi Bekow, Central, Soi 8, and North Pattaya. It will realistically take me at least a week to do this. I will list names, e-mails, pricing, etc. This will be incredibly valuable information, however I want it to have a separate thread.
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Okay, here it is:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3145[/url]
Thanks,
Jackson[/QUOTE]
Hi Jackson.
Appreciate it. This will take me at least a week to get the data, and at least a week to put it together. Perhaps longer.
Am starting it now. Thank you for you confidence.
Popper
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-- Pink Floyd
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Yesterday Trip Report
OK, but not to be too preachy of this great holy Church I established yesterday on this forum called [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Tourists, Suckers, and Noobs[/b], I will give an example from what happened last night.
Yesterday had dinner at one of those outside stands. Was a two eggs omelet, with onions, etc for 40 baht. As eating this extravagant meal (not bad except for the fact that they try to overcook and salt it to death) noticed was near a Thai bar. The Thai bars are really great. Almost unknown to farangs. Inside were 100 percent Thai females. All PT workers. Just began talking to a group of five gals. Asked them what they were drinking and they said whiskey shots, and they offered me a shot.
Now, this is what a LD should be -- [b]and what this new established church is about[/b] --- the girl offering farang a free drink. Now, these Thai bars are really neat. Hidden. And very very cheap for drinks. I ordered a while back tequila and there were like eight or nine shots for about 40 baht !! This place caters to the Thais, and I guess their quality of drinks not great and profit margins very small -- but for fun exceeds any go-go.
Anyway, downed the whiskey and the gals and myself had a good laugh. I could have had any of them (three of them were in their 20s and quite cute). However had to meet a friend, and gave apologies and left. And yea, only in Thailand would I leave five hot gals to meet up with a male friend.
To continue with the report, after talking ... walked back via that road which intersects entrance of Walking Street where all the massage parlors are. After midnight and the gals were leaving work. Approached one ... bla bla bla ... 500 baht great ... bla bla bla.
Gal was a hot looking 39 - 45 year old in a cute tight uniform. At hotel analed her for about 25-30 minutes (advantage of older experienced girls) and she was great with it as long as I used KY.
After she gave me a greeeeeeeeaaaattttt Thai massage. I mean, it was wonderful. I ended up giving her top dollar for a FL short time, which is 700 baht ( and sorry for ruining the market guys) but that Thai massage she gave made it all worth while.
Damn I hate Pattaya ...
Popper
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Devil's Den management
Some 10 days before actually arriving in Pattaya, I contacted DD in order to make a booking. My first choice wasn't available, so in a brief mail exchange they helped select a replacement.
It was after I confirmed that the following exchange took place:
[QUOTE=DD]Hi, you now have a provisional booking for Joy and Bang at 1830 hrs on 14 Aug for Incall 90 minutes. Please confirm your booking at least 48 hours prior to your booking date. Your full name, hotel, room number and expected check in time MUST be provided by this time to confirm your booking. Alternatively, you may confirm your booking by coming into the club and leaving a deposit. We look forward to seeing you.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ryo]No problem with confirming the booking, but since it's an IN CALL, may I ask why do you need hotel details?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DD]Hi, I understand your booking is for In-call service. Unfortunately many of our customers get a last minute case of shyness and fail to arrive for their booking. Often, the lady in question has declined other assignments to accommodate the advance booking. This is less than fair, so in their interest we request detailed confirmation information. Thanks for your understanding.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ryo]As I work myself in the service industry, I understand your predicament, and I am willing to help whichever way I can.
Unfortunately I won't be able to come leave a deposit, as I made the booking for my very first day in Thailand. So, I'm afraid I am not going to divulge my hotel details, and certainly not my name.
Prostitution in Thailand is accepted but illegal, you know better than I do, and no disrespect, but your establishment has had troubles with the law before. I certainly don't want my name in any of your records.
If there's any other way I'm open to discuss it, otherwise I'll take my chances and show up without a booking.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=DD]Hi, as per your request, your booking for Joy and Bang at 1830 hrs on 14 Aug is now canceled. You are welcome to stop by the club after your arrival to see which ladies are available.[/QUOTE]Then the following day I received this message:
[QUOTE=DD]Hi, your booking for Joy and Bang at 1830 hrs on 14 Aug for Incall 90 minutes is now confirmed, we look forward to seeing you. Please notify us by phone at 087-1491996 should your itinerary change.[/QUOTE]
Finally on the day I showed up the manager on duty didn't know about my booking, then proceded to inform me that Bang wasn't available.
Now, I don't want to be too fastidious because at the end of the day I had a good time, so I can let go that they didn't know about my booking and that Bang wasn't available.
In fact I wouldn't have had a problem if they said that they couldn't take a booking without a deposit or my credit card details.
But that thing about them wanting to know my room # and my check in time? Usually when something doesn't make sense it's because there are hidden motives behind it.
Anyway, two years ago I booked Eden and Tulip, this year I booked Mango and Annies (all in BKK), and they never asked for anything.
What do you guys think?
Ryo
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Hi Jackson.
Appreciate it. This will take me at least a week to get the data, and at least a week to put it together. Perhaps longer.
Am starting it now. Thank you for you confidence.
Popper
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“All you touch and all you see, Is all your life will ever be.”
-- Pink Floyd[/QUOTE]Very nice Popper. Please include into your information if they have Wifi or wired broadband (some have) in the rooms.
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[QUOTE=Doppel One]I guess the question should be 'are you more likely to get a positive response to the anal question if you politely and discreetly phrase the approach in Thai rather than blurting out "can I fuck your ass?"[/QUOTE]You have to realize that for all but a very few Thais, even pretty crude English like this doesn't have the impact it does for us. You're actually more likely to embarrass them if you try to ask in Thai and get it wrong. That's one reason I seldom offer advice on how to say anything in Thai -- unless you have some grasp of the language, canned phrases in Thai just don't work as well as simple, direct English.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]OK, but not to be too preachy of this great holy Church I established yesterday on this forum called [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Tourists, Suckers, and Noobs[/b], I will give an example from what happened last night.
Yesterday had dinner at one of those outside stands. Was a two eggs omelet, with onions, etc for 40 baht. As eating this extravagant meal (not bad except for the fact that they try to overcook and salt it to death) noticed was near a Thai bar. The Thai bars are really great. Almost unknown to farangs. Inside were 100 percent Thai females. All PT workers. Just began talking to a group of five gals. Asked them what they were drinking and they said whiskey shots, and they offered me a shot.
Now, this is what a LD should be -- [b]and what this new established church is about[/b] --- the girl offering farang a free drink. Now, these Thai bars are really neat. Hidden. And very very cheap for drinks. I ordered a while back tequila and there were like eight or nine shots for about 40 baht !! This place caters to the Thais, and I guess their quality of drinks not great and profit margins very small -- but for fun exceeds any go-go.
Anyway, downed the whiskey and the gals and myself had a good laugh. I could have had any of them (three of them were in their 20s and quite cute). However had to meet a friend, and gave apologies and left. And yea, only in Thailand would I leave five hot gals to meet up with a male friend.
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“All you touch and all you see, Is all your life will ever be.”
-- Pink Floyd[/QUOTE]
Its not the Thai's that are cheating, most of the walking street bars are owned by farangs who are looking for western kinda profits margin's.
Most of the fights, pad up bills, non-performance, drugging have happened in farangs owned bars...farangs get beaten by thai's who are paid by farang owners. They are the ones who have made what pattaya is today, inflated lady drinks and beers.
What you have experienced is very true...i try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars.
If we all boycott farang bars....the price in pattaya will go down in couple of days.
Guys support local economy..eat at street stalls for food, drink at thai owned bars....farang owned bars are like goldman scachs of bars..their profit margin keeps on going up..while rest of us mongers suffers
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Its not the Thai's that are cheating, most of the walking street bars are owned by farangs who are looking for western kinda profits margin's.
I try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars.
If we all boycott farang bars....the price in pattaya will go down in couple of days.
Guys support local economy..eat at street stalls for food, drink at thai owned bars....farang owned bars are like goldman scachs of bars..their profit margin keeps on going up..while rest of us mongers suffers[/QUOTE]
Star,
I agree with you that the bars on soi 7 & 8 are lively and fun. Walking down these 2 streets you are confronted with a totally different atmosphere. It is like another world compared to the high end Go Go bars off Walking Street. But the hard truth is the best looking girls (I don't know if that is important to you or not) are found in the Go Go's. When you find a really good looking girl on soi 7 or 8, the exception proves the rule. So I will continue to go to both locations to get the most out of my trip. My primary goal in visiting Pat is to have a great time with beautiful Thai girls. I don't care who owns the bar.
I totally 100% agree with you that the best Thai food in Pattaya is found in the small independently owned street stalls. Yummy!
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Massage
Can anyone recommend a good soapy in Pattaya. I use to go to Sabai Dee, but no more bbbj's there.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba]Some 10 days before actually arriving in Pattaya, I contacted DD in order to make a booking. My first choice wasn't available, so in a brief mail exchange they helped select a replacement.
Finally on the day I showed up the manager on duty didn't know about my booking, then proceded to inform me that Bang wasn't available.
Now, I don't want to be too fastidious because at the end of the day I had a good time, so I can let go that they didn't know about my booking and that Bang wasn't available.[/QUOTE]Sorry you missed out on Bang my man. I fucked her in the back of Lucifer (her idea; followed her lead) for free July 2009. That girl is a true FREAK SUPREME!
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Re: In-call booking at DD
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba]...But that thing about them wanting to know my room # and my check in time? Usually when something doesn't make sense it's because there are hidden motives behind it.
Anyway, two years ago I booked Eden and Tulip, this year I booked Mango and Annies (all in BKK), and they never asked for anything.
What do you guys think?
Ryo[/QUOTE]
No reason for them to be paranoid about their patrons. Given their popularity, a no-show from a confirmed booking need not end in lost business for the waiting ladies.
May be a ploy to discourage unserious pranksters from gaming their roster -- If the jock doesn't turn up, they can call the residence to verify.
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Most of the fights, pad up bills, non-performance, drugging have happened in farangs owned bars...farangs get beaten by thai's who are paid by farang owners. They are the ones who have made what pattaya is today, inflated lady drinks and beers.
...i try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars. Guys support local economy..eat at street stalls for food, drink at thai owned bars....[/QUOTE]Thank you Starchild2012.
Your perspective and advice is greatly appreciated and valued. I will keenly follow it when I am in Thailand.
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Mirrors - Hotels with mirrors ?
Hi
Can someone point me to a hotel with mirrors so you can see the action in bed - nothing like watching yourself all the way in a girl - I know the Penthouse has them...
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]
Most of the fights, pad up bills, non-performance, drugging have happened in farangs owned bars...farangs get beaten by thai's who are paid by farang owners. They are the ones who have made what pattaya is today, inflated lady drinks and beers.
What you have experienced is very true...i try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars.
If we all boycott farang bars....the price in pattaya will go down in couple of days.
Guys support local economy..eat at street stalls for food, drink at thai owned bars....farang owned bars are like goldman scachs of bars..their profit margin keeps on going up..while rest of us mongers suffers[/QUOTE]
StarChild, I think that I agree with this statement completely. Was referring to a few of the local Thai bars in South Pattaya. Will look into those on Soi 6, 7, and 8.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]It is like another world compared to the high end Go Go bars off Walking Street. But the hard truth is the best looking girls (I don't know if that is important to you or not) are found in the Go Go's. When you find a really good looking girl on soi 7 or 8, the exception proves the rule. [/QUOTE]
Ummmm. Natty ... where do you think the GoGo bar girls goes on their nights off?? And when there, they are a freelancer (AKA: no bar fine and no lady dink). For me, it is far more fun to meet the girl on her own terms.
--Popper
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]...i try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars.[/QUOTE]You might be surprised how many of the bars on those sois are owned by farangs.
Frankly I'm beginning to feel like I've entered an alternative universe here. Farang-owned bars being the main source of padded bills and scams? (In contrast to all those lily-white Thai-owned bars.) 'Goldman Sachs profits' from bars? (Plenty of bar owners will have a good laugh over that.) Lady drinks and barfines as sucker bait? (Maybe, just maybe, the reason they've both lasted for decades is that they serve a useful function not only for bars, but also for the working girls and even the punters . . . give that a thought.)
With all respect, it sounds like you guys are the newbs, with just enough visits here to have it All Figured Out. But do carry on.
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Soi 6 - My friend you
This is my favorite place in Soi 6. All the ladies are very professional, you can test their BJ capacities first on the couch downstairs before going consequently upstairs for full service. My favorites are Chomphu, Nid, Eat, Nok, Um and Oi from top. The picture shows Nid, Eat and Nok from left to right.
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]
...i try to avoid farang owned bars and generally spend my time in soi 7/8/6...small small bars.[/QUOTE]
Today walked soi 6, 7, and 8. Spoke to lots of the working gals. Do not think there are any Thai bars in that area. If there are, I could not find them.
[QUOTE=Betong]You might be surprised how many of the bars on those sois are owned by farangs.
. . .
With all respect, it sounds like you guys are the newbs, with just enough visits here to have it All Figured Out. But do carry on.[/QUOTE]
I've known a guy who lived here for over 10 years, and never even knew these places existed. To be clear, these bars are [b]not [/b]for noobs at all. The pricing and customers are meant for the Thais, not farangs. When walking in can be intimidating. You walk in on the gals terms. Not yours. And these bars are filled with Thais -- w/few if any farangs. There is no guarantee that any of the gals will be nice. And certainly they do not need to tolerate any rude / smelly / fat / disgusting farang or their behavior as they do if you head to a go-go and buy a few LDs. Lots of working gals hang out there after work with their friends to relax.
Personally I prefer the challenge of the hunt, and hunting in their territory. In these places of course no LDs or bar fines, and since they are an automatic freelancer (no matter from which go-go / laundrymat they work at) price is far cheaper. Drinks ridiculously cheap, like cheaper than you've ever paid in your life. Hell, you could buy 10 or more gals lady drinks for the price of two go-go LDs.
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Quick report from last evening: Walked on Walking Street. Of course had my 2 egg 40 baht omelet from a street stall (watch carefully how they cook it, they often put in too much oil and overcook it). Just decided to head towards Tonys ([b]ripoff[/b]) Disco. In less than 30 seconds ... there she was. We talked. Bla bla bla ... 500 baht OK bla bla bla.
She huge natural tits. 22 years old. Amazing body and I'd no clue she had a kid except she told me. In the sack she was absolutely terrible. No Bj or anything else. She wanted me to come quick but I "torchered" her by going very very slow. And then even slower than that. Decided she would need to earn that 500 baht.
And ... all the while she complaining "You too big". "You take too long". Biggest complainer thus far this trip. Yea, even FLs aren't perfect. And here is your 500 baht, and do not even consider asking a tip.
Ummmm ... and no I do not want your cell phone number.
--Popper
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“All you touch and all you see, Is all your life will ever be.”
-- Pink Floyd
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Star,
I agree with you that the bars on soi 7 & 8 are lively and fun. Walking down these 2 streets you are confronted with a totally different atmosphere. It is like another world compared to the high end Go Go bars off Walking Street. But the hard truth is the best looking girls (I don't know if that is important to you or not) are found in the Go Go's. When you find a really good looking girl on soi 7 or 8, the exception proves the rule. So I will continue to go to both locations to get the most out of my trip. My primary goal in visiting Pat is to have a great time with beautiful Thai girls. I don't care who owns the bar.
I totally 100% agree with you that the best Thai food in Pattaya is found in the small independently owned street stalls. Yummy![/QUOTE]
Yep, i always hangout in soi 6.7.8 in that order criss-crossing...i do stroll into walking street but just to be in the disco's...Regarding food try
Lengkee Chinese Restaurant
341/3-6 Pattaya Klang Road/ Central Pattaya
Its the best food i ever had anywhere....its owned by Thai-Chinese family....very famous amoung locals as wells as expats..they have both thai and chinese food..always fresh.
[quote=Siam Dreamer]
Thank you Starchild2012.
Your perspective and advice is greatly appreciated and valued. I will keenly follow it when I am in Thailand. [/quote]
I'm glad i could help, i was also helped by other members before my first trip, but please do more research before going...get as much information as possible from different sources as possible. Good Luck
[quote=Betong]
You might be surprised how many of the bars on those sois are owned by farangs.
Frankly I'm beginning to feel like I've entered an alternative universe here. Farang-owned bars being the main source of padded bills and scams? (In contrast to all those lily-white Thai-owned bars.) 'Goldman Sachs profits' from bars? (Plenty of bar owners will have a good laugh over that.) Lady drinks and barfines as sucker bait? (Maybe, just maybe, the reason they've both lasted for decades is that they serve a useful function not only for bars, but also for the working girls and even the punters . . . give that a thought.)
With all respect, it sounds like you guys are the newbs, with just enough visits here to have it All Figured Out. But do carry on. [/quote]
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, I said most not ALL...offcourse some farangs owned bars are good...i'm aware that farangs own bars in soi 6,7,8 also, but we could find thai owned bars there more easily. If we look at the six months major events of farangs getting beaten up in Pattaya....They were all from the farangs owned bars.....Now this is a fact which could be checked in local news and local pattaya forums. i'm not saying you couldn't be beaten up in thai bars...b
Pad up bill issues and non-performance have also come from major bars in walking street. Farang owned bar owners come to forums and defend themselves on why they beat a guy....if farangs bar managers cannot guarantee fair treatment to their own countrymen why do we need to pay higher prices in those bars.
anyways it was just my observation based on news reports and my own visits...i din't mean to cross anyones path thanks
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Good Eats
[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Yep, i always hangout in soi 6.7.8 in that order criss-crossing...i do stroll into walking street but just to be in the disco's...Regarding food try
Lengkee Chinese Restaurant
341/3-6 Pattaya Klang Road/ Central Pattaya
Its the best food i ever had anywhere....its owned by Thai-Chinese family....very famous amoung locals as wells as expats..they have both thai and chinese food..always fresh. [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the tip. I will file it in my Pat Restaurant Word Docx so I will be sure to check it out on my next visit.
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What exactly is the attraction on Soi 7 & 8?
Been to Pattaya a number of times and have visited Soi 6. By the way, is it simply Soi 6 or Soi 6/1. Don't remember.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Star,
I agree with you that the bars on soi 7 & 8 are lively and fun. Walking down these 2 streets you are confronted with a totally different atmosphere. It is like another world compared to the high end Go Go bars off Walking Street. But the hard truth is the best looking girls (I don't know if that is important to you or not) are found in the Go Go's. When you find a really good looking girl on soi 7 or 8, the exception proves the rule. So I will continue to go to both locations to get the most out of my trip. My primary goal in visiting Pat is to have a great time with beautiful Thai girls. I don't care who owns the bar.
I totally 100% agree with you that the best Thai food in Pattaya is found in the small independently owned street stalls. Yummy![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Henryv]By the way, is it simply Soi 6 or Soi 6/1.[/QUOTE]It's 6. Soi 6/1 is the little back alley that you use to avoid girls you don't want to bump into on the front soi. In fact real Soi 6 fans start to learn all the back entrances to the bars, for total discretion.
Sois 7 and 8 are mainly outdoor beer bars. I used to really enjoy them but don't bother much any more. Soi 6 just has everything I need.
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Agree with your comments on Soi 6/1 for I have stayed at Queen Vic a number of times and use the back to get in and out at all times of the day.
The one thing that others have noted and I want to re-emphasize to any newbies is that Soi 6/1 has many lady boys. Some are quite, well, obnoxious.
[QUOTE=Betong]It's 6. Soi 6/1 is the little back alley that you use to avoid girls you don't want to bump into on the front soi. In fact real Soi 6 fans start to learn all the back entrances to the bars, for total discretion.
Sois 7 and 8 are mainly outdoor beer bars. I used to really enjoy them but don't bother much any more. Soi 6 just has everything I need.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Monopoly]Trantinr, thanks for the report. How did you like the sandy spring? Was it clean? Good air-con? Any positives? Any problems, etc?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi Monopoly, Sandy Spring on Soi 13 is a great hotel, clean, AC, reasonable TV channels, small pool, I always ask for a balcony, staff are friendly and helpful, hotel is central and the hotel is girl friendly. I have stayed there 5 times now and have had no issues. I think I paid 1,390 THB per night and I know you can find cheaper rooms.
Cheers
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Pattaya Trip - August
Saturday 7th August.
Went out late and walked north along Beach Road, the street market was on again which contunes to be a bummer. Came across a reasonable looking girl who said her name was Lek, 25 years old, said she had been in Pattaya for 2 years and spoke good english. Took her for a couple of dinks and then to the room. Usual shower then gave me an excellent blow-job and then we fucked. Actually broke my condom during the act which I had to replace. Good company but had the largest areola's I have ever seen which were not to my tast but did her doggie so it didn't matter too much. Sometime during the early morning she got up, had her shower and she woke me to say "I go now". Felt the most relaxed and satisfied since arriving and said OK.
More later.
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Thank you, will put it on my list of things to do.
[QUOTE=Betong]It's 6. Soi 6/1 is the little back alley that you use to avoid girls you don't want to bump into on the front soi. In fact real Soi 6 fans start to learn all the back entrances to the bars, for total discretion.
Sois 7 and 8 are mainly outdoor beer bars. I used to really enjoy them but don't bother much any more. Soi 6 just has everything I need.[/QUOTE]
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Re: Hotels with Mirrors
[QUOTE=Pahllus Maximus]Can someone point me to a hotel with mirrors so you can see the action in bed...I know the Penthouse has them...[/QUOTE]
More likely to be found in ST rooms
[url]http://fullmoon.pattaya-club.com/[/url]
[url]http://media.ladyboyspattaya.com/images/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2010/post-21439-063453600%201281111556.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.pattaya-bars.net/jade-house-pattaya.html[/url]
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[QUOTE=Luckyguy7198]More likely to be found in ST rooms
[url]http://fullmoon.pattaya-club.com/[/url]
[url]http://media.****************.com/images/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2010/post-21439-063453600%201281111556.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.pattaya-bars.net/jade-house-pattaya.html[/url][/QUOTE]
You dare to point to another forum and even a ladyboy forum? Let's see how long this post lasts.
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Hope he's OK
I wouln't worry too much I think the broken condom thing has happened to all of us at some point. It sure can make you nervous.
[QUOTE=Trantinr]Saturday 7th August.
Went out late and walked north along Beach Road, the street market was on again which contunes to be a bummer. Came across a reasonable looking girl who said her name was Lek, 25 years old, said she had been in Pattaya for 2 years and spoke good english. Took her for a couple of dinks and then to the room. Usual shower then gave me an excellent blow-job and then we fucked. Actually broke my condom during the act which I had to replace. Good company but had the largest areola's I have ever seen which were not to my tast but did her doggie so it didn't matter too much. Sometime during the early morning she got up, had her shower and she woke me to say "I go now". Felt the most relaxed and satisfied since arriving and said OK.
More later.[/QUOTE]
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BJ Bar
I know of a BJ bar near Devils Den, but are there any on soi 6, 7, or 8 ?
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There are (was)3 near there.
Which one is Sabai Dee?
Is it the white pillar one or the one across the street? That sucks.
[QUOTE=Henryv]Can anyone recommend a good soapy in Pattaya. I use to go to Sabai Dee, but no more bbbj's there.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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Kicked back?
Any chance they are trying to take credit for you showing up at the hotel?
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba]Some 10 days before actually arriving in Pattaya, I contacted DD in order to make a booking. My first choice wasn't available, so in a brief mail exchange they helped select a replacement.
It was after I confirmed that the following exchange took place:
Then the following day I received this message:
Finally on the day I showed up the manager on duty didn't know about my booking, then proceded to inform me that Bang wasn't available.
Now, I don't want to be too fastidious because at the end of the day I had a good time, so I can let go that they didn't know about my booking and that Bang wasn't available.
In fact I wouldn't have had a problem if they said that they couldn't take a booking without a deposit or my credit card details.
But that thing about them wanting to know my room # and my check in time? Usually when something doesn't make sense it's because there are hidden motives behind it.
Anyway, two years ago I booked Eden and Tulip, this year I booked Mango and Annies (all in BKK), and they never asked for anything.
What do you guys think?
Ryo[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Not if it leads to sex with a girl far better looking than in the pics you posted.[/QUOTE]
She looked right tasty to me!
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[QUOTE=Tiger 888]You dare to point to another forum and even a ladyboy forum? Let's see how long this post lasts.[/QUOTE]
there is a permanent banner on these pages heading you to an hotel offering a specific bar dedicated to a gender that is not accepted here.
What he posted here has been th elink to a jpg of a map :)
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Kwik Report
last night found a gal walking just outside insomnia as i recall. there were two gals. one was super hot with huge tits, and the other petty hot. went to the super hot gal. looked closely. tits looked fake. hair was not natural. ummmmm ... was it a lady boy? 98 percent certain that it a lady, but why take a chance.
went to other gal. large tits hanging out. wiggled. good. natural. talked. bla bla bla --- 500 baht --- bla bla bla. ok. now, thing about freelancers is that you never know what you're getting. to me, this a huge plus.
this gal was 22, from chang mai, and half chinese. i soon realized that this not the typical meatball-brain bar girl. she articulate and intelligent. it gets better. unlike most gals who end bbbj within 2 - 3 minutes, this gal kept at it, sucking, sucking, and sucking. near nonstop. very strong. she put her body into it. better than the three gals i had from sio 6 and that one [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] gal (who was at best medocre). in the end my popper juice was all over her face, and she didn't flinch. thinking about it, why should any gal care --- i mean all day long these gals put shit all over their faces. besides, mine is all natural --- [b]and great for wrinkles.[/b]
found out she a travel agent; works a 40 hour work week. wow. a real person, and not just a pro. since every word out of these gals mouth is a lie. i tested her, she said best airlines to fly to the states is not the us, thai, or japanese airlines, but rather etihad airline from baharain, and then emirade airline or qatar airways. she went into lots of details. am thinking to myself that not only does the us have to worry about competition from the europeans and japanese, but now also the chinese and even these friggin small arab countries. good grief ...
anyway, here are a few picts of her (taken with my 5-6 year old sony-erricson camera). enjoy.
... damn i hate pattaya.
--popper
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Yep, I always hangout in soi 6. 7. 8 in that order criss-crossing. I do stroll into walking street but just to be in the disco's. Regarding food try
Lengkee Chinese Restaurant
341/3-6 Pattaya Klang Road/ Central Pattaya
Its the best food I ever had anywhere. Its owned by Thai-Chinese family. Very famous amoung locals as wells as expats. They have both thai and Chinese food. Always fresh.[/QUOTE]I agree. I went there to eat after reading about it in another forum. It's really good. I ended up eating there 3 days in a row.
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[QUOTE=Popper1] A real person, and not just a pro.[/QUOTE]
Huh, A real person, what does that mean? From your description below this real person is very much a pro.
[QUOTE=Popper1]
Went to other gal. Large tits hanging out. Wiggled. Good. Natural. Talked. Bla bla bla --- 500 baht
Unlike most gals who end bbbj within 2 - 3 minutes, this gal kept at it, sucking, sucking, and sucking. Near nonstop[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Popper1] In the end my Popper juice was all over her face, and she didn't flinch[/QUOTE]
I know I speak for many when I say if we received this type of service from our steady girls many WG would be out of business. One of the reasons we turn to pros is exactly for performances like this. Pros come in all shapes and sizes some even have ‘regular’ day jobs
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Kwik Report
About 4:PM went on Central, walking from 2nd to Bekow. Was eating a fresh mango which is 35 baht. Love those things. Gal approaches me.
"Can I have piece of Mango?" OK. "You want go to my loom. I give you good blow job." How much? "500 baht".
Ummmm. OK. Where is your loom?
Anyway, was located between central and soi 7, near the beach. About a 2 or 3 block walk. Wanted her ass, but she wanted 1000 baht. Naaaa. Very small, cute, LBFM. For her size tits pretty good sized.
What I thought interesting was the room itself. Walk up about 5 flights. No AC. Shared bathroom. Bit dirty. She pays 2500 baht a month -- that's about US $85. Personally I think not bad, if it had AC, private shower, perhaps a fridge, and cleaned up a bit.
This was the first time I ever was in a bar girl's room. Figured that others may be interested. There a small patio overlooking soi 7 where the curtain is.
Anyway, got her number. "You call me soon teruk, OK." Ummm sure. (quietly toss number away). So, will I get me another piece of tail tonight. Honestly, I've no clue.
... damn I hate Pattaya.
--Popper
Bar Fines and Lady Drinks are for tourists, noobs, and suckers
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[QUOTE=Popper1] A real person, and not just a pro.
..--Popper[/QUOTE]
Not for flaming, but also pro are real persons..(and human beings)
I probably know what you mean, but the first reading might give a misunderstanding on what you say:)
[QUOTE=Popper1]... She said best airlines to fly to the States is not the US, Thai, or Japanese airlines, but rather Etihad airline from Baharain, and then Emirade airline or Qatar Airways.
--Popper[/QUOTE]
I think the girl must be a bit confused (either on airlines or on Middle East geography)
Ethiad is AbuDhabi (UAE) based airline and indeed flies pretty much to the States/Europe (via AbuDhabi from Asia)
Emirates is Dubai (UAE) based airline and has an impressive world network, growing every month, quite unbeatable in many terms (even if Ethiad is getting there to match!)
Qatar Airways is Doha (Qatar) based and is trying (same as Ethiad) to beat Emirates on network
Bahrein's ariline is Gulf Air and as a limited and essential network (due to also to losses, always recapitilzed by the Government).
I would not take Ethiad from Bahrein to fly to Qatar (via AbuDhabi) to somewhere in the US with Qatar.
Simply not practical and quite nonsense.
If I would have to list the importance of these I would set
1) Emirates
2) Ethiad
3) Qatar
4) Gulf Air
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Why?
[QUOTE=Popper1]
Anyway, got her number. "You call me soon teruk, OK." Ummm sure. (quietly toss number away).
[/QUOTE]
She looks cute.
Was the service bad or you don't do repeats?
Slim
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My preferit place in Pattaya are The Devil's Den, I went there many time and all the time I had a very good service.
The best girls for me is: Ning, Rain, Jar and Bang.
In soi6 my preferit bar are Red Point bar. Many nice girls and many girls can give anal for 1.000b + 300b for room.
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[QUOTE=Popper1] So, will I get me another piece of tail tonight. Honestly, I've no clue.
[/QUOTE]
Popper,
So, is that you lying on the bed next to the girl looking shagged out?
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]She looks cute.
Was the service bad or you don't do repeats?
Slim[/QUOTE]
Actually was cute. Small. Large tits for her size. Completely shaved too.
Read somewhere that the American male on average f*cks eight different girls in their life time. Me? I've been in Pattaya now since Aug 15 and averaging figure 1.3 girls a day -- had eight different girls in five days. In total suspect I've had a thousand girls. Or more -- perhaps thousands.
I generally get new ones, unless they are unbelievably exceptional in some way. There are just so many girls here, and they everywhere. As it is my cell phone is filled with girl's numbers. And from what I can tell, Thais truly do enjoy sex -- unlike so many American b*tches who I dated.
Last night decided to find another gal. Was fresh off the boat. Had three kids but kept her body quite well. 500 baht. In the end whined a bit that I was taking so long, but then gave me her phone number -- not that it would do any good even if I wanted to contact since her English so poor.
... damn I hate Pattaya.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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I think the girl must be a bit confused (either on airlines or on Middle East geography)
Ethiad is AbuDhabi (UAE) based airline and indeed flies pretty much to the States/Europe (via AbuDhabi from Asia)
Emirates is Dubai (UAE) based airline and has an impressive world network, growing every month, quite unbeatable in many terms (even if Ethiad is getting there to match!)
Qatar Airways is Doha (Qatar) based and is trying (same as Ethiad) to beat Emirates on network
Bahrein's ariline is Gulf Air and as a limited and essential network (due to also to losses, always recapitilzed by the Government).
I would not take Ethiad from Bahrein to fly to Qatar (via AbuDhabi) to somewhere in the US with Qatar.
Simply not practical and quite nonsense.
If I would have to list the importance of these I would set
1) Emirates
2) Ethiad
3) Qatar
4) Gulf Air[/QUOTE]Ethiad has good schedules. A little more expensive than Delta from US, but you can catch a Friday evening flight out of Ohare and get an extra day on the ground. Flight schedules average at least 4 hours less air time than Delta. I guess its worth it if you can afford it.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Read somewhere that the American male on average f*cks eight different girls in their life time.[/QUOTE]Must have been an article written by an American female who didn't know any better.
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Since the topic is on airlines, for my upcoming trip next month, and since I have vowed never to fly an american carrier again, booked my ticket with Etihad and I'll get in BKK at 7am on a friday morning. I'd like to get some feedback on those who have flown with Etihad before as far as their services, and all. It wasn't the cheapest ticket but had the most convenient schedule. Delta was about 900 bucks while Etihad cost me almost $1500, but didn't mind at all to pay the extra to avoid 2 connections, having to go through the US and flying a US carrier. Flight leaves at 10:45 pm and after an almost 14 hour flight arrives in Abu Dabi and after a short lay over of under 2 hours, off for another 6 hours before landing in BKK at 7am in the morning, which is perfect for sleeping the whole day recovering before attacking the friday night in style. Very convenient schedule indeed. Anyone has flown with Etihad before? How comfortable are their seats? Do these seats have enough leg room or are you cramped like hell like in KLM? (Again, another airline to never fly again with!).
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[QUOTE=Sprite13]Since the topic is on airlines, for my upcoming trip next month, and since I have vowed never to fly an american carrier again, booked my ticket with Etihad and I'll get in BKK at 7am on a friday morning. I'd like to get some feedback on those who have flown with Etihad before as far as their services, and all. It wasn't the cheapest ticket but had the most convenient schedule. Delta was about 900 bucks while Etihad cost me almost $1500, but didn't mind at all to pay the extra to avoid 2 connections, having to go through the US and flying a US carrier. Flight leaves at 10:45 pm and after an almost 14 hour flight arrives in Abu Dabi and after a short lay over of under 2 hours, off for another 6 hours before landing in BKK at 7am in the morning, which is perfect for sleeping the whole day recovering before attacking the friday night in style. Very convenient schedule indeed. Anyone has flown with Etihad before? How comfortable are their seats? Do these seats have enough leg room or are you cramped like hell like in KLM? (Again, another airline to never fly again with!).[/QUOTE]
I have flown both Emirates and Etihad and would choose the latter. Leg room was decent (flew Beijing - London via Abu Dhabi), service good, TVs in every seat, new aircraft. Not a lot to do in Abu Dhabi airport so it's a good thing you are only there a couple of hours.
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Bar beer prices
Gentlemen,
I'm not a really big fan of the bar beers my usual stalking grounds being Beach Road and soi 6 (together with the odd attempt at non WG pickups - with very mixed results given the slight age difference between myself and the girls I'm attempting to pick up - but ever the optimist!!)
However last night I saw a real beaut of a girl at one of the bar beers on Pattaya New Plaza. Actually I'd seen her before and we'd made eye-contact, but last night I thought I'd jump in for a bit of ST. She is a newbie to the profession (having spent a week in Pattaya) and she spoke virtually no English. I don't speak a lot of Thai beyong being able to order drinks, food and tell the time etc, so an older girl had to step in and translate. The BF was the standard 300 baht but when I enquired as to the ST rate they wanted 1000 baht. I shook my head discouragingly and stepped away before countering with a cool 700 baht. I stood there a moment expecting resistance but they seized upon the 700 baht counter-offer and we closed the deal. Everyone was happy. I got the impression I could have countered with a lower offer still and it would have been accepted - does that correlate with anybody's experience here I wonder? What do you guys pay for ST at the bar beers?
The girl was a delight BTW. Very affectionate and she did everything (though my attempt at boom booming her doodt did resembled a farcical Benny Hill-esque chase around the bed at one point). She stayed in my room for two hours and at end of what was a rather exhausting and exhilirating session I tipped her solid 100 baht and a pair of spanking new panties. She was delighted with the tip and a good time was had by all.
Pattaya really is one helluva city. Don't you just love low season?
D1
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for beer bars 500st & 1000lt
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]for beer bars 500st & 1000lt[/QUOTE]
For the majority of the girls yes. But the real range is 500-1000ST. Young good looking girls, especially on soi 7&8, will usually demand 1000ST and won't bend much on price.
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Walking around Lucifers. Near there was a Thai bar. Again, to be clear, these are small, hole-in-the-wall places which are filled with girls. They are all sitting, relaxing, etc.
As stated before, being a member of the Church of [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Suckers, Noobs, and Tourists[/b], walked in. Place very small. Talked to six girls and offered them all drinks. Again, this is not an LD, but rather offering to buy a bunch of gals lady drinks -- totally different.
Decided I was in the mood for a bigger gal with white skin and large tits. More the Western look for tonight. My mood goes back and forth from that to the smaller LBFM. Anyway, as you can see from the picture, the Thai whiskey comes in a small M-150 bottle. There are seven shots in the bottle, and cost 40 baht. Ordered three bottles for the gals and I to share. Tho I not a whiskey connoisseur, suspect at about 6 baht a shot that this not the highest quality available.
500 baht for ST and we were off to my hotel. Walking back, two farang women gave me the evil eye. Ha! Anyway, here are the picts. Outstanding BJ.
... damn I hate Pattaya
--Popper
Founder of the church of [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Tourists, Suckers, and Noobs[/b]
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Walking around Lucifers. Near there was a Thai bar. Again, to be clear, these are small, hole-in-the-wall places which are filled with girls. They are all sitting, relaxing, etc.[/QUOTE]
Are you talking about Lucifer's on Walking Street? I'd like to know more because I've never seen any 'Thai Bars' on Walking Street, only out on Third Road, Thepprasit Road, and other hinterland sois.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Are you talking about Lucifer's on Walking Street? I'd like to know more because I've never seen any 'Thai Bars' on Walking Street, only out on Third Road, Thepprasit Road, and other hinterland sois.[/QUOTE]
In some of the small streets on the side of WS (i.e. Soi BJ), there are a few Thai bars where WG and LB drink Thai Whiskey (often black market whiskey, worde than legal Thai whiskey). that's probably what's been referred to.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Popper,
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.[/QUOTE]That's a classic !! :D:D
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Pattaya synopsis of 18 days in 2 visits.
Pattaya June/July ‘10
I visited Pattaya twice during the last 2 months for a total of 18 days and this is just a quick synopsis of the 2 trips.
Definitely not as busy as the same time last year but with some of the new Go Go’s opening up since then the quality and quantity was there in a few places, although some of the smaller and quieter ones could produce the odd gem.
I stayed at the reliable and comfortable Pasadena Lodge in Soi LK Metro as per my previous trips.
Overall I would say that the best places and also the busiest, especially at weekends, in terms of choice and quality of girls were the following,
Baccara, Cavern, Peppermint, Secrets in WS and Papayagogo in Soi Diana and Champagne in LK Metro.
I also visited the Rioja club, off Threppasit Road, 3 times in the late afternoon and the selection was good on 2 occasions and thin on the other. I barfined only once, a superb body in a pink trouser suit for 1000 THB all in for the room on the prenises.
I also enjoyed a couple of afternoons with some of the nice girls from the Pattaya Teen Massage establishment, off Soi Buakhao at my hotel, all the services I required supplied with no problem on 4 occasions.
Some bargains to be had beer wise if you are up for it early, as along 2nd Road in particular you could get a bottle of Leo etc for 40 baht, which is exceptional value in my experience. I drank draft most of the time and most of the places had it on for 59/60 baht a glass, the best of these being Secrets Tiger IMHO at 60 baht. Some of the places give you a smaller glass than others for the 59 baht price.
The Blues club was still Rockin the tunes all be it to a half empty place, a sure sign of the times, even at the weekend.
I barfined from all of the above mentioned places and enjoyed a satisfactory experience on all occasions. I also barfined a farm fresh cutie from the Beach club who needed a bit of encouragement and instruction but provided a most enjoyable time on the 2nd night, the first was spent learning the ropes and was adequate only.
I wandered down Soi 6 only twice for an early evening quickie in Saigon and Kiss Kool where I found the offerings to my taste. A lot of girls and absolutely no punters here at all, I was expecting the tumble weed to come rolling into view at any minute.
On the culinary front I ate at the newly opened Goose’s Fish n Chip place on 2nd Road next to the entrances to Soi 7 and 8, top quality fish, chips and peas on all visits, otherwise I stuck to the Thai places in Soi Buakhao or the Beer Garden.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]For the majority of the girls yes. But the real range is 500-1000ST. Young good looking girls, especially on soi 7&8, will usually demand 1000ST and won't bend much on price.[/QUOTE]
I have never had any problems taking a BG and never had to pay more than 500st or1000lt even for the stunners
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Suggest emergency excommunication
[QUOTE=Popper1] being a member of the Church of [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Suckers, Noobs, and Tourists[/b], 500 baht for ST and we were off to my hotel.
--Popper
Founder of the church of [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Tourists, Suckers, and Noobs[/b][/QUOTE]
Popper,
I know, I know 'each to their own' and all that, but judging by the photos of your latest conquest I'm totally with Amjeck on this. You really sholuld excommunicate yourself from your own Church occassionally, pay the bloody 300 baht BF and shag something half decent.
My-oh-my...!! Conrad couldn't have put it better. The horror, the horror...
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[QUOTE=Popper1] Walking back, two farang women gave me the evil eye. Ha! [/QUOTE]
There's not place for farang women in Pattaya, unless they're selling it!
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Kwik report from last evening. Contacted one of my favorite 3-holer NOK to get together about 9:PM. An hour later no reply. Decided to head back to Beer garden. Few girls there. Heck, few of anyone there. Sat down next to two sets of girls. As soon as I sat down an LBFM stood up and left. "Where you go?" I asked. "Toilet." she replied. OK. Spoke to the other gal who then looked at me like I had leprosy or the cooties or something. OK. She has that right. Waited for the original to return. Scoping the place out, there were other girls there, but I had no interest in any of them.
Gal came back and we began talking. Usual bla bla bla. She was small and cute. Issan. Smoking hot silver pants which covered a very hot ass. Complaining that she did not know what happened, but gained weight and was at 38 kilos but now at 40 kilos. Had a flashback to my sister's best friend when I was growing up. Said to me just last year "I do not know what happened, one day I woke up and gained 250 pounds." She a complete hottie too, about 250 pounds ago.
She 26 and very cute. This gal had not an ounce of fat on her. Small. Paid for her two 40 baht beers with a 100 baht note, and off we went. Got a message from Nok asking where I was. Replied busy, and see her tomorrow. I grabbed one of those chicken sticks for 10 baht, and my cell began vibrating. I texted Nok [b]"Miss you darling, see you tomorrow."[/b]
Again my cell was vibrating ... and constant (I set mine to vibrate cause I hate ringing cells), and Nok was again calling me. Checked the text she sent me. [b]"i se you now wiht ladey." [/b]
Gals name was Fa, or Ma, or something like that. Took a shower and we 69ed and I went to town on her. No kids. She had no fat at all on her stomach. Think those two kilos went to her breasts too. After what appears to me as about 50 minutes, she swallowed everything. Commented how the protein will help her to lose those 2 kilos she's so worried about -- she then looked at me funny. She was outstanding, and I really regret not having her cell phone to contact her in future. Gave her 600 -- or a 100 baht tip (sorry for spoiling the market guys).
Anyway, here are picts from last night. She did not not not want her picture taken. I just snapped them as she put on her clothes to leave.
... damn I hate Pattaya.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Kwik report from last evening.
Gal came back and we began talking. Usual bla bla bla. She was small and cute. Issan. Smoking hot silver pants which covered a very hot ass. [/QUOTE]
Well done Popper. Cute girl. Thanks for sharing the pics!
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Back again
I managed to use the return portion of my ticket and made it here yesterday. All is great as the usual (except exchange rate compared to 1 yr ago), it that me or there are even more and more cute chicks around?
Anyway, as I came I wanted to have something I had been wanting for quite a time, that is a big breasted girl from a little massage place on a street beweed 2nd and 3rd Road. I will post the exact address as I go back there.
That is one of the few places where the girls that always sit there on the steps, have a great cleavage, plus are young and very pretty. As I drive by, this cutie kind of winked too right so I was even more motivated. We agreed for 1 hour of massage plus all the sex I wanted, in my room for 950 B. As I waited for her, another one came and had a great natural looking pair also, and great looks overall. Having had my fair share at home for years, I am not so much a boobs guy, but I wanted to indulege this time
This girl Four was very nice in person and to talk with, when she took off her bra, I had the pleasure of partying with one of the nicest pair ever seen in cup size C.
She is also very cute in the face and the body overall. Great service, even more if you like quiet girls. Very good sloppy BJ and thanks Buddha she's not cum shy. Nothing could have been a better welcome. After deed, she did not needed to go back to shop, so we strolled a little in the marked by 3rd, where she did not asked for a single thing (perhaps she was just waiting for me to leave LOL). I will be very happy to see her again.
At night I wanted to try again some of that disco in Walking Street and I have to say I like it more and more. Finally they built a bike park by the end of the beach also. I walk in and it was just kind of starting. Plenty of hot (ok some not so hot) girls to, at least party with.
As I do sometime (and generally proves to be the right choice), I pick not the young hottie but the one with the best overall attitude, slighltly more aged in this case. I buy her for just one drink that brings the bill to the astronomical abount of 175 B. I will try to make friend with a bartender or server there, as it will be in my interest to be recognized and "cared for" there.
We then dance happily for as long my body allowed to. In my room she is funny to be with and willing to please, again no stupid rules as you may find in most other places of the world with working ladies. In the morning maybe she is not hot like in the disco, still attractive beside mine was a rational choice, not alchol induced.
By the way my firm intention is to make this trip almost alchol free to help body to detoxinate, together with all the sweating and screwing. I will also check out a Muai Thai gym today.
Anyway we sleep lazily as in the best tradition, then sit for an healty chicken salad "breakfast" at 2. 30 pm, gift offered and happily accepted, 1, 700 B.
I also had a call returned from another sweetie, Nisa of enhanced chest, plus I may decide to sample again one veteran friend, finally I may make hard cock amends to the three-holer I wronged in my previous stay. We'll see, for now life is great.
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Ethihad, Emirates and Qatar
[QUOTE=Sprite13]Since the topic is on airlines, for my upcoming trip next month, and since I have vowed never to fly an american carrier again, booked my ticket with Etihad and I'll get in BKK at 7am on a friday morning. I'd like to get some feedback on those who have flown with Etihad before as far as their services, and all. It wasn't the cheapest ticket but had the most convenient schedule. Delta was about 900 bucks while Etihad cost me almost $1500, but didn't mind at all to pay the extra to avoid 2 connections, having to go through the US and flying a US carrier. Flight leaves at 10:45 pm and after an almost 14 hour flight arrives in Abu Dabi and after a short lay over of under 2 hours, off for another 6 hours before landing in BKK at 7am in the morning, which is perfect for sleeping the whole day recovering before attacking the friday night in style. Very convenient schedule indeed. Anyone has flown with Etihad before? How comfortable are their seats? Do these seats have enough leg room or are you cramped like hell like in KLM? (Again, another airline to never fly again with!).[/QUOTE]
Ethihad, Emirates and Qatar are pretty much the same when it comes to equipment and service. They are essentially competing to be the largest fish in a small pond! So as far as you are concerned it really depends on frequency, schedules and cost! Emirates has a considerable head start and in my view beats the others on the frequency and variety of routes and the turnaround in DBX! Much better facilities and a more pleasant environment! Doha airport (Qatar) is a real pain for transiting pax, as flights are remotely parked and pax bussed the 10 to 15 minutes to the terminal, both when arriving and departing! Abu Dhabi (Ethihad) is better than Doha in that respect but neither beat DBX in my view! The current terminal in Doha is also far too small for the number of flights operating through it, and has always been packed when I transit there!
Emirates also have a useful 30kg baggage allowance and, unlike Qatar who check the weight of your carry-on bag, Emirates have never bothered to do so!
One useful point with Dubai, if you have an Amex card you have access to the Marhaba lounge (regardless of airline) with free internet and hot food! Great if you have a few hours to kill!
Doha has Amex access to the Oryx lounge, but no hot food, just snacks and free internet, and Abu Dhabi also, but I forget the name of the lounge there!
One further point worth considering is joining the airlines frequent flyer scheme. Just last week on returning to Bangkok from Manila with PAL I was upgraded to business class as the aircraft was changed from an Airbus A330 to the much smaller A320. Mabuhay members, their scheme which I joined on my first flight, were selected for the upgrade, even though I have only flown with them twice!
A couple of days ago I was flying BKK to DBX with Emirates and the same thing happened, the flight was transiting through BKK from Christchurch NZ and Sydney on it’s way to DBX. Myself and 4 others were upgraded to business as we were members of their frequent flyer programme, and on that sector, economy was full!
Bonker.
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just got back from a few weeks in pattaya, took over some friends this time.
one guy ended up falling in love with a chick from windmill. that place is still fun and debaucherous. however i found the girls doing the lesbian and sex shows werent as hot as when i was last there. also they moved some stuff around. however i still enjoyed chucking ice cubes up girls at 20 baht a pop!
i had some good times with a girl from the first bar on the left of soi 6. this is where you are facing the beach. she was short and had big tits and was 19. she really liked to fuck. be nice to her guys. i went there three times and have nearly taught her to ar. on my last visit when i said i was leaving, i swear she had tears.
i also hooked up with a laos chick that was also short with big tits. she was at the beer bar near the opening to boesche, toyz a go go and etc. she was very hot and took excellent care of me. ran a bath and washed me all over. she also became very attached.
i visited [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] a bit and took om a few times. she also started ar in my last few sessions. i also tried a girl called wat. she was terrible. she was cute but terrible. just bobbed her head.
i wanted to visit the devils den but ran out of cash.
i also visited dream teen massage and got a girl to jerk me while i fingered her. another fun experience.
stayed at arecas lodge. i stayed in evergreen which was supernice but the superior room which was 1550 got no sunlight. none nada. so i moved back to corona wing. even tho its only 4 years old, it only looks mildly dated. but still nice to have a view of the pool.
the staff there were super nice and awesome. i had a birthday there and they got me a card and gave me an areca lodge shirt.
i also got a few tailored made suits made. i highly recommend cheena tailor on soi 10 (it might be called famous tailor). people in there are cool and reasonably priced. if you want a suit, ask for rocky and said a guy from australia who bought 8 suits recommended you.
already thinking of when i am going back.. it just gets more fun everytime!
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Just outside Mixx Disco gal walked out. Smokin' hot. Offered her 500, and she demanded 700 baht, which as far as I am concerned is top dollar.
Was fun. She got bit annoyed at me when I bit her pussy. 28 years old, and had a kid. She all business. Very strong in the sack. And as soon as she left, two other gals called me, asking for short time. Damn, just so many girls here, and so little time ... not much sympathy from out there, eh.
... damn I hate Pattaya.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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Hahahaha!
[QUOTE=Popper1]
[b]... damn I hate Pattaya[/b].
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.[/QUOTE]
ROFLOL!
But as soon you have left Thailand, you miss Pattaya...Right?
;)
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]
Anyway, as I came I wanted to have something I had been wanting for quite a time, that is a big breasted girl from a little massage place on a street beweed 2nd and 3rd Road. [/QUOTE]
If it's the same girl I think you're talking about her name is Gai (appropriately given the size of her breasts). She works at an MP on Soi Honey called Jasmine (or maybe its the one next to Jasmine) which is about six MPs on the right from the end as you head from 2nd Road towards Soi Buakao.
She's great fun, especially if you'd ever imagined yourself in a Russ Myers movie. Enjoy!
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Massage fun in Pattaya
Went out tonight wanting to get a full body massage. A soapy some call it. The first stop was PP full body massage. I've heard some good things about it. Well. Have you ever wondered where all ugly crack *****s in Pattaya hang out?. Inside PP full body massage! I looked inside the fish bowl and practically run out of the place! While I was obviously leaving they still tried to sell me a drink! Wow. What a dump!
On the same street. There is was The Dream Teen Massage. Walked in there. Talked to the lady, asked for a oil and ball massage. Never had a ball massage before so was really curious. She called a girl. Around 25. Not too bad. I asked to see the other girls and was presented with a photo album. However no matter who I picked, she was not here.
Ok. Ended up going upstairs with the original girl. Her name was Elena or something. I paid 400 for an hour of massage. Alright. Got in the room, took a shower. Laid on the bed, waiting for the girl. She comes in wearing something not very sexy, all covered. Alright. I just wanted a massage only anyway.
Rubbed my back with oil for 20 min. Not much of a massage, flipped me over, got to my boys. And got me hard. Then she starts selling her services. I know it's not fair!
I am playing cool, said I don't want any extras, just want to get what I paid for. Give me the ball massage biatch! Her jaw dropped. She admitted she doesn't even know how to do a massage and all she does here is BJs and full service. She was asking me for 2000 for FS.
Anyway. I said well, I have to get going then. No point of me laying there naked. She then said I can stay and she try to give me a massage. Never got even a little nude. So I wasn't motivated at all.
Got the hell out of there, still gave her a 100. She wanted me to come back again tomorrow. Why?. I don't know!
Walked back into Honey Massage. Also on the same street I think. Same shit. Older hardcore *****s! They wanted 1800 plus tip. Hahah!
Now who goes into those place is beyond me. You can get anything you want from the beach road for a 1000.
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[QUOTE=ThaiLearner]I have never had any problems taking a BG and never had to pay more than 500st or1000lt even for the stunners[/QUOTE]So you can walk into Peppermint or Baccara on a Friday night and barfine the hottest girl for 1000 st?
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[QUOTE=Bkk A Ok]So you can walk into Peppermint or Baccara on a Friday night and barfine the hottest girl for 1000 st?[/QUOTE]
Those are Gogo Bars, not Beer Bars. I confirm in Beer Bars (not gogos) the 500 ST/1000 LT work in most cases, and probably will work as long as customers think it's the price.
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A while ago on this board I aksed if anyone could recommned a good massage place in Pattaya, no one responded. Do not want to go through what you did.
Again, any recommendations/suggestions?
[QUOTE=Start123]Went out tonight wanting to get a full body massage. A soapy some call it. The first stop was PP full body massage. I've heard some good things about it. Well. Have you ever wondered where all ugly crack *****s in Pattaya hang out?. Inside PP full body massage! I looked inside the fish bowl and practically run out of the place! While I was obviously leaving they still tried to sell me a drink! Wow. What a dump!
On the same street. There is was The Dream Teen Massage. Walked in there. Talked to the lady, asked for a oil and ball massage. Never had a ball massage before so was really curious. She called a girl. Around 25. Not too bad. I asked to see the other girls and was presented with a photo album. However no matter who I picked, she was not here.
Ok. Ended up going upstairs with the original girl. Her name was Elena or something. I paid 400 for an hour of massage. Alright. Got in the room, took a shower. Laid on the bed, waiting for the girl. She comes in wearing something not very sexy, all covered. Alright. I just wanted a massage only anyway.
Rubbed my back with oil for 20 min. Not much of a massage, flipped me over, got to my boys. And got me hard. Then she starts selling her services. I know it's not fair!
I am playing cool, said I don't want any extras, just want to get what I paid for. Give me the ball massage biatch! Her jaw dropped. She admitted she doesn't even know how to do a massage and all she does here is BJs and full service. She was asking me for 2000 for FS.
Anyway. I said well, I have to get going then. No point of me laying there naked. She then said I can stay and she try to give me a massage. Never got even a little nude. So I wasn't motivated at all.
Got the hell out of there, still gave her a 100. She wanted me to come back again tomorrow. Why?. I don't know!
Walked back into Honey Massage. Also on the same street I think. Same shit. Older hardcore *****s! They wanted 1800 plus tip. Hahah!
Now who goes into those place is beyond me. You can get anything you want from the beach road for a 1000.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Henryv]A while ago on this board I aksed if anyone could recommned a good massage place in Pattaya, no one responded. Do not want to go through what you did.
Again, any recommendations/suggestions?[/QUOTE]No one probably responded because massage places in Pattaya are 2 dozen for a baht. You can not walk 20 meters without there being a massage parlor. If you stayed in Pattaya for 1 month and went to a different massage parlor each hour of each day then you still would not have scratched the surface. All the massages are pretty much the same seeing that all the ladies learn at the massage university. So besides the ambiance of a particular place, massages in Pattaya are a commodity. Some places even offer them for a 99 baht special.
Where Start123 went wrong is that he went to a jack shack/soapie trying to get a legit massage from a sex worker. Although a few ladies at legit massage places may offer extras, there are literally hundreds more legit massages places than the seven or so soapies/full body massage/jack shack places. So pick your own poison. I doubt you would need to go from one end of Pattaya to the other to get to a legit massage parlor that someone recommended. You will run out of money and time before you run out of massage parlors in Pattaya that offer excellent legit massages.
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HenryV,
No one responded! might be because no one knows exactly what you are looking for? But your quote of Start123, just gives me a indication are you looking for a soapie, oil massage with the extra ( legit ) or a massage with the extras like in Bangkok?
If you are looking for places like Tulip, Annies etc... then IMHO, you are out of luck? The two or three major players in Central like Sabai is the only game in town but mostly all unless you find the right provider will only do CBJ.
As indicated by Mr. E. you will find massage shops doing Traditional Thai, Foot, and Oil everywhere you go. The cost is depended on the location of where there are more tourist or whether the owner owns the property and the quality is always depended on the provider and not the shop! I have also noticed that when you use Massage shops like at Soi Buakhao you might be more likely to get some extras from retired Bar girls who now want to do something more legit at the same time be able to pick and choose who they want to provide extras to?
If you want a balance of the above, I suggest you try this place... can't give you the name because it is in Thai! Just off 3rd Rd, on Pattaya Klang ( also called Central Road ) on the left hand side before Carrefour, you will see a large green building, two or three stories high, with dark black glass door. This place has a fish bowl, provider are older but some not bad to look at which I think many use to work at go gos and bars. This is basically a Traditional Thai massage place, oils are usually done by the big fat mammas that don't get pick much! For myself,,, 2 hours I get a Thai Massage and I tip them 100 baht.. The Thais that venture here give nothing and usually want to talk and B.S. the girls. Not wanted to get into a debate about tipping in my opinion this I believe is more than fair! Price here is 240 baht for 2 hours and another 40 baht if you want some Ben gay on you back!
If you hit it off, there are some that will go with you to dinner. You can buy them out for the day or night and there are some if they like you that will offer you extras. While giving you a Thai massage they will hit you up for a Oil massage, if you except you bring you to the 3rd floor / place 1000-1500 FS?
A long response for a very general question? Good luck LBM
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Is it acceptable to proposition to a non bar girl?
I was walking in the Central Festival mall on the beach road, just doing some shopping and stuff. Then I see "her". One of those OMG she is so cute type of girl! She was working at one of the stands selling souvenirs.
Well, I tried to strike a convo. But she spoke very limited english. Then I said something to the effect " you, me, go my hotel tonight". Her reaction was strange. Like she didn't quite understand what I was saying.
So is this acceptable behavior on my part? Keep in mind I was somewhat classy and nice about it.
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[QUOTE=Henryv]A while ago on this board I aksed if anyone could recommned a good massage place in Pattaya, no one responded. Do not want to go through what you did.
Again, any recommendations/suggestions?[/QUOTE]On soi post office (13/2?)there are two on the left coming from the beach before the pumpstation the one I recommend has the girls with the orange shirts-maybe its called nice massage.not sure but when in the massage cubicle they also have a shower in there. I got quite a few nice and strong oil massages there and of course they offer extras but that's not why you go there. The oil massage is 300 an hr but drops quickly to 200 when you mumble something and point somewhere.
The funny thing is when the girls just can't keep her hands of your dick despite you telling them you just want the massage. Good to tip them a little.
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[QUOTE=Start123]The first stop was PP full body massage. I've heard some good things about it.[/QUOTE]Really? Can't say I ever have.
If you want a soapy in Pattaya, don't mess around in the Buakhao area. Just go up to the top of 2nd road and look in at the big three, Sabai Room, Sabailand, and Sabaidee. People have their own preferences but right now I think Sabailand has the best talent. Last two I took there were #135 and #139, both recommendable.
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[QUOTE=Start123]I was walking in the Central Festival mall on the beach road, just doing some shopping and stuff. Then I see "her". One of those OMG she is so cute type of girl! She was working at one of the stands selling souvenirs.
Well, I tried to strike a convo. But she spoke very limited english. Then I said something to the effect " you, me, go my hotel tonight". Her reaction was strange. Like she didn't quite understand what I was saying.
So is this acceptable behavior on my part? Keep in mind I was somewhat classy and nice about it.[/QUOTE]
You might be surprised to find out that not all girls In Pattaya are hookers, yes I know amazing Isn't It?
There are either two ways this goes, 1, the girl Is happy to make some baht on the side by FL after work, or 2, she might go for free, even In Patts, but you might have to take her out for dinner+drinks etc. But many good girls In town will steer clear of farang mongers, as they want good man, not butterfly lol.
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[QUOTE=Start123]. Then I said something to the effect " you, me, go my hotel tonight". Her reaction was strange. Like she didn't quite understand what I was saying.
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Maybe it would have been better if you asked her to go out to dinner with you,
rather crude to ask a non-working girl to go to your hotel,
Be glad her boyfriend or father did not hear you !
Also if you want a better time treat ALL of them nicely , if you treat them like decent ladies you will get it back double time :)
BK
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[QUOTE=Start123]I was walking in the Central Festival mall on the beach road, just doing some shopping and stuff. Then I see "her". One of those OMG she is so cute type of girl! She was working at one of the stands selling souvenirs.
Well, I tried to strike a convo. But she spoke very limited english. Then I said something to the effect " you, me, go my hotel tonight". Her reaction was strange. Like she didn't quite understand what I was saying.[/QUOTE]Come on man. You might need a break from mongering. You are beginning to think all women are hookers. Like the other guys said why not just ask her out to eat or to see a movie or as I like to do go bowling in Central Festival with the free coupons!
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This actually happened about a week ago. Tho I stated that would not hit this place again for cheap cheap -- located near the go-kart track. Sorta like been there, done that. And, when I wrote it ... I meant it, or so I thought.
However, the place does have a bit appeal of adventure. Just it is so primitive. Went back thus far about five times. As you can see from the picts here, when approaching paradise you can see this wonderful 5 star hotel. Couple of dogs and girls on the road. Found my chickie and walking up the woods. And of course, the Master Bedroom, and my chickie w/ her pants down in the woods.
That said, since this time (which was about a week ago) I've aged a bit and decided on a local ST hotel. Walking dsitance is a hotel called Pop Inn at cost of 250 baht. With this however, cost is about the same as Beach Road, and probably not worth it. Ok, not worth it.
Anyway, here are picts from older excursion.
... damn I hate Pattaya.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]However, the place does have a bit appeal of adventure. Just it is so primitive. [/QUOTE]
Popper, pic #4 (beautiful bedroom) has really piqued my curiosity. Did you actually do the deed in the woods on that grubby, horrible matress? If so, hats off to you, but weren't you a bit worried you might get spotted and busted or are the woods so thick and impenetrable nobody can see inside?
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[QUOTE=Start123]I was walking in the Central Festival mall on the beach road, just doing some shopping and stuff. Then I see "her". One of those OMG she is so cute type of girl! She was working at one of the stands selling souvenirs.
Well, I tried to strike a convo. But she spoke very limited english. Then I said something to the effect " you, me, go my hotel tonight". Her reaction was strange. Like she didn't quite understand what I was saying.
So is this acceptable behavior on my part? Keep in mind I was somewhat classy and nice about it.[/QUOTE]
You need to start123, to get your brain out of the sewer! Just because you are in Thailand and Pattaya doesn't mean everyone is a hooker! Is every tourist overpaying, stupid, fat and drunk? Lets not answer that right now?
You are very lucky she didn't understand much English? as noted you might have ended up in the hospital? You need to take a more cautious approach and make some conversation just like at home? feel them out take them to dinner as noted? If you are too shy and short on conversation then stay with Beach Rd and the Beer Bars?
Your approach was no better than grab the girls ass thinking you can get away with it. Please don't allow a long airplane ride make you becomes stupid when you get here! Common sense rules apply no matter where you go!
Save yourself some money at the hospital by using some common sense?
Enjoy yourself? LBM
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[QUOTE=Doppel One]Popper, pic #4 (beautiful bedroom) has really piqued my curiosity. Did you actually do the deed in the woods on that grubby, horrible matress? If so, hats off to you, but weren't you a bit worried you might get spotted and busted or are the woods so thick and impenetrable nobody can see inside?[/QUOTE]
Outdoors. Ummm. Yes. Twice. In the middle of the day. Hot as hell. Once on the very stylish bed (as shown) and the other on one of those portable things you lie on at the beach. Ants crawling all over it too. If you read my other report dated 08-21-10 you can see the beautiful hotel stayed at then.
Just looked it up, and here are the picts from then:
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... damn I hate Pattaya.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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Urgent question
This might seem an easy question if you were in BKK, but seems to be much harder in Pattaya...
Does anyone know where I can get a phone unlocked in Pattaya? I've tried the proper phone shops, and also the small traders, but no joy...
Or failing that, where is a good place to get a cheap phone to use here?
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]This might seem an easy question if you were in BKK, but seems to be much harder in Pattaya...
Does anyone know where I can get a phone unlocked in Pattaya? I've tried the proper phone shops, and also the small traders, but no joy...
Or failing that, where is a good place to get a cheap phone to use here?[/QUOTE]
Try the second floor of TUK.COM on S. Pattaya Rd near Soi Buakhow ... all kinds of mobile phones and services there.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
You are very lucky she didn't understand much English? as noted you might have ended up in the hospital? You need to take a more cautious approach and make some conversation just like at home? feel them out take them to dinner as noted? If you are too shy and short on conversation then stay with Beach Rd and the Beer Bars?
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End up in the hospital? Yah, right! The guy didn't proposition her with money.
Yah, a bit more tact should be used, but there's no need to take her out to dinner and spend loads of money on her either. This isn't the West. If she works in the mall, she is low level Thai, not a hi-so or mid-so that you need to wine and dine. Do something low key and cheap like inviting her for a foot massage together at one of the shops after work and get to know her. If things go well, then maybe ask her to your room. Or at very least, get her number and call her later.
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Moral Conundrum
This happened to me few nights ago. Was with a gal I've had before. All was good. She was complaining tooth ache, and the medicine she is taking is not working. She then showed me the tooth which she thought had the problem.
It was a molar back of her mouth. All her teeth looked white, but this tooth was black. It was also cracked. Looked almost in two pieces. Tho I not a dentist, I told her it had to be pulled. She said she has no money ... bla bla bla ... her rent is overdue, her cell phone just got stolen by a ladyboy, she has to talk on this Nokia which is held together by tape (it was), and ...
However, she also told me this tooth ache was hurting her constantly and keeping her up at night. To me, letting a medical problem as this go for so long is inconceivable. What kind of person lets this go to this degree?
The answer is a dopey Thai girl, what's who. I was really in a moral conundrum. And ... I admit my brain froze for a bit. She left, and I slept on it. Morning I grabbed my 60 baht breakfast consisting of three eggs, toast, and coffee. Had a think.
After breakfast, I called her and told her to price different dentists, and I would pay for it. She came back that evening and told me that she had seen three dentists and the cheapest will charge 800 baht to pull the tooth. Tomorrow, Monday, will see this thing through.
Those who know my posts, know that I hate wasting cash, and am to a degree ... cheap. Created the church of [b]LDs and BFs are for Noobs, Tourists, and Suckers[/b]. However, this is completely different, helping these gals with medical problems. If anything, the more I think of it the more am convinced this the honorable thing to do.
To me, it makes sense to spend 800 baht helping a gal to get her tooth pulled, but completely wasteful spending 800 baht on two LDs and a BF.
--Popper
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Tucom is a good place to get phones unlocked but SOME JUST CANNOT BE UNLOCKED (nobody has the software). Virtually any phone a year or 2 old can be unlocked, newer (new releases) , maybe not
Another possibility is in the evening market on Buakhao more or less halfway between Sawasdee hotel and Central (on the left right by the jog). There's a phone guy in there who can repair almost anything and unlock/reset almost anything. Speaks really good english, too. You will, of course, pay "farang price" which is a bit more (I don't think it's a whole lot though) than "khon Thai price".
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Created the church of [b]LDs and BFs are for Noobs, Tourists, and Suckers[/b]. However, this is completely different . . . [/QUOTE]You realize of course that you're going to have to change the name of your church now? "The Church of LDs and BFs are for Noobs, Tourists, and Suckers, but TEs [tooth extractions] are for Gentlemen."
P.S. I financed a one-eyed girl's prosthetic eye once, years ago. (True story -- she was lovely and I was young and idealistic.) But since then I've gone back to lady drinks and barfines.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]This happened to me few nights ago. Was with a gal I've had before. All was good. She was complaining tooth ache, and the medicine she is taking is not working. She then showed me the tooth which she thought had the problem.
It was a molar back of her mouth. All her teeth looked white, but this tooth was black. It was also cracked. Looked almost in two pieces. Tho I not a dentist, I told her it had to be pulled. She said she has no money ... bla bla bla ... her rent is overdue, her cell phone just got stolen by a ladyboy, she has to talk on this Nokia which is held together by tape (it was), and ...
However, she also told me this tooth ache was hurting her constantly and keeping her up at night. To me, letting a medical problem as this go for so long is inconceivable. What kind of person lets this go to this degree?
The answer is a dopey Thai girl, what's who. I was really in a moral conundrum. And ... I admit my brain froze for a bit. She left, and I slept on it. Morning I grabbed my 60 baht breakfast consisting of three eggs, toast, and coffee. Had a think.
After breakfast, I called her and told her to price different dentists, and I would pay for it. She came back that evening and told me that she had seen three dentists and the cheapest will charge 800 baht to pull the tooth. Tomorrow, Monday, will see this thing through.
Those who know my posts, know that I hate wasting cash, and am to a degree ... cheap. Created the church of [b]LDs and BFs are for Noobs, Tourists, and Suckers[/b]. However, this is completely different, helping these gals with medical problems. If anything, the more I think of it the more am convinced this the honorable thing to do.
To me, it makes sense to spend 800 baht helping a gal to get her tooth pulled, but completely wasteful spending 800 baht on two LDs and a BF.
--Popper[/QUOTE]
I had the same problem in AC, Phi. I had barfined this really pretty girl. In the morning we were having breakfast in bed and she had the toothache. I took her to the dentist in the mall. The mall dentist wanted to do root canal , crown etc. I told him I will pay only for extraction to which the girl agreed. Still the total bill came to 1000 pesos including medicines.
However I got the best GFE from her and frquent sex for next three days.
I think it is good for us to help these girls instead of wasting money on too many drinks.
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Last time I was in Sabai Room no bbbj.
Do they have same policy in Sabailand?
As a point of referance, is the Sabai Room the one with the large columns? Also, where are the other two located?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Betong]Really? Can't say I ever have.
If you want a soapy in Pattaya, don't mess around in the Buakhao area. Just go up to the top of 2nd road and look in at the big three, Sabai Room, Sabailand, and Sabaidee. People have their own preferences but right now I think Sabailand has the best talent. Last two I took there were #135 and #139, both recommendable.[/QUOTE]
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I just booked the Nova Gold Hotel on Central Rd.
When I arrive at the bus station, how do I get to Central Rd? The same baht bus that travels Beach Rd?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]End up in the hospital? Yah, right! The guy didn't proposition her with money.
Yah, a bit more tact should be used, but there's no need to take her out to dinner and spend loads of money on her either. This isn't the West. If she works in the mall, she is low level Thai, not a hi-so or mid-so that you need to wine and dine. Do something low key and cheap like inviting her for a foot massage together at one of the shops after work and get to know her. If things go well, then maybe ask her to your room. Or at very least, get her number and call her later.[/QUOTE]
Amjeck,
I can't disagree with you more! you must have been born yesterday. Being in a town like Pattaya thinking one can just approach anyone outside of a Go Go or Beer Bar etc... with such an attitude that every female you see you can just walk up strike up a conversation like with a FL and ask " you want to go to my hotel "
Yes! you should at least do the some of the things you yourself mention but just coming out like that? What if her boyfriend or husband was there and heard it. Think man would you not be offended if someone walk up to your women and said the same thing? I have seen Farangs in Pattaya get the shit kid out of them for less! I remember sometime back a member writing about a Farang grabbing the ass of some young girl outside a MacDonald in Bangkok and next thing you know all hell broke loose with Thai guys kicking the shit out of him.
What are the chances? personally I wouldn't want to find out and if I was going to be in a fight and getting a good pounding I sure wouldn't want being so bold thinking every female is P4P in Pattaya.
I said what I needed in terms of what Start123 said! and I'm not trying to beat him down since I believe it was a mistake. But in my opinion thinking one can come to Pattaya and not end up in the hospital is being foolish! Watch and read the news each day and night about Pattaya then it might not seem so unlikely!
Knowing you I'm not going to change your mind so next time you are in town go to one of the Thai disco and walk up to a table and say " would you like to go to my room " Go luck!
LBM
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[QUOTE=Popper1]However, this is completely different, helping these gals with medical problems. If anything, the more I think of it the more am convinced this the honorable thing to do.
To me, it makes sense to spend 800 baht helping a gal to get her tooth pulled, but completely wasteful spending 800 baht on two LDs and a BF.
--Popper[/QUOTE]
Agree, I once spent a thousand US dollars on a Girl and the service was so bad I felt completly mugged and regretted not just having gone and given the Thousand dollars to some really hot lap dancers I was with earlier which would have bought me a few hours of fun and laughs unlike about 20mins of robot sex. Once she has her tooth pulled don't go sticking your cock in there then without a rubber as if she has anything you would be at a far higher chance of catching it.
Can't wait to get over there!
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]I just booked the Nova Gold Hotel on Central Rd.
When I arrive at the bus station, how do I get to Central Rd? The same baht bus that travels Beach Rd?[/QUOTE]
If we are talking about the same Nova Gold and you are carrying bags you will be in for a surprise because Nova Gold isn't on Central Rd? If you are talking about the main bus station on Pattaya Nua the baht bus unless you hire the whole bus it will not take you directly there?
Nova Gold, is located right in the middle between Central ( Pattaya Klang ) and 2nd and 3rd Rd. I believe is next door to the Nova Park Apartments which is where the Jamison Restaurant is located. Whatever road you get off you have bit of a walk to get to the Nova Gold. If you are coming from the Bus station on Pattaya Nua, you would have to get off 3rd Road and Nua and catch another Bus and head down towards Central. You must get off at the back entrance to Carrefour ( 7/11 on corner ) go down that Soi and turn right on the Family Mart I think the Nova Gold is right there.
Best suggestion I have is outside the Bus station you might be able to get a Bus ( Songthaw ) that will take you there for 100/150 Baht? But in my opinion nothing direct?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Henryv]As a point of referance, is the Sabai Room the one with the large columns?[/QUOTE]That's right, on the east side of 2nd road. Sabailand is kittycorner across the street, and Sabaidee just beyond that.
Unfortunately all these places have become pretty strict about condoms for blowjobs. Some of the girls don't insist on it, but they're in a minority.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
Yes! you should at least do the some of the things you yourself mention but just coming out like that? [/QUOTE]
I'm sure there was more said during his conversation. I never knock a guy who is trying to get laid. Even if he is bold and to the point. Some girls like that. If you're smooth and have game you can get laid anywhere anytime.
Again, the guy didn't proposition her with money. If he'd done that then yah, I agree with what you say. To think the guy is going to end up in the hospital because he asks a girl to his hotel sounds like a scare tactic. I know you're american, but try to think outside of how american woman have ruined your beliefs about courtship.
Anyhow, the OP could be a troll.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]This happened to me few nights ago. Was with a gal I've had before. All was good. She was complaining tooth ache, and the medicine she is taking is not working. She then showed me the tooth which she thought had the problem.
It was a molar back of her mouth. All her teeth looked white, but this tooth was black. It was also cracked. Looked almost in two pieces. Tho I not a dentist, I told her it had to be pulled. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Betong]I financed a one-eyed girl's prosthetic eye once, years ago.[/QUOTE]Looks like I better stop skeeting in these girls' mouths and eyes. It is getting to be more trouble than it is worth when they get a taste of the sweetness.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]If you're smooth and have game you can get laid anywhere anytime.[/QUOTE]Have fun in the senior center.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]
Best suggestion I have is outside the Bus station you might be able to get a Bus ( Songthaw ) that will take you there for 100/150 Baht? But in my opinion nothing direct?
LBM[/QUOTE]
Ummm - it does sound a little complicated. Looks like a direct hire to the hotel is the way to go this time. I hope I don't regret this location - their website says "a 10 minute walk to the beach"
Thanks LBM!
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai]Ummm - it does sound a little complicated. Looks like a direct hire to the hotel is the way to go this time. I hope I don't regret this location - their website says "a 10 minute walk to the beach"
Thanks LBM![/QUOTE]
From what I see with the Hotel, it is new maybe open a year or so ago. In my opinion somewhat expensive for being set back from the main road but quiet. You certainly need transportation to get to 3rd Rd. and Central rd unless you like to walk. The location is closes to 2nd rd around a 1/2 mile or less. The Bangkok Bank is on the corner across from that is Soi 6, I would agree that it is about a 10 minute walk to the Beach Rd, but might take you much longer if you go down Soi 6 first?
Outside the hotel I think is a motorcycle taxis stand?
Good Luck, LBM
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm sure there was more said during his conversation. I never knock a guy who is trying to get laid. Even if he is bold and to the point. Some girls like that. If you're smooth and have game you can get laid anywhere anytime.
Again, the guy didn't proposition her with money. If he'd done that then yah, I agree with what you say. To think the guy is going to end up in the hospital because he asks a girl to his hotel sounds like a scare tactic. I know you're american, but try to think outside of how american woman have ruined your beliefs about courtship.
Anyhow, the OP could be a troll.[/QUOTE]I was at the Central Festival for God's sakes! I doubt anyone would try to beat me up just because I was talking to a girl! And no I didn't took out a wad of cash and pointed downstairs, I had a normal conversation. It's just when she didn't quite understand me, I tried to simplify what I wanted. This conversation would be absolutely normal in America by the way.
I was just asking if all women here can be pretty much bought with enough money. Even the married ones.
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[QUOTE=Start123]I was just asking if all women here can be pretty much bought with enough money. Even the married ones.[/QUOTE]No, of course not.
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Residence Garden Hotel
Hi,
Plan to be in Patts from 20th Nov for 10 days or so and thinking of staying in the above. What have been your experiences? Is it near the Jomtien bars and Walking St?
Grateful for any views/experiences.
Peter
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Try the second floor of TUK.COM on S. Pattaya Rd near Soi Buakhow ... all kinds of mobile phones and services there.[/QUOTE]Many thanks. I'm waiting there now as they have been struggling for 2 hours to unlock it. I know it can be done because they managed it with an identical phone in BKK a few weeks ago. That one I gave to the gf.
I negotiated a price of 400Bht down from 500bht, but was at the walk-away point in order to do that when the big boss called me back.
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Shows near the bus station
I walked up to some brights lights set a way back from the road, close to the Pattaya Nua bus station. 3 big clubs, Supergirls (also in Russian), one with a Thai name, and X Club. About 50 massive tour buses in front of them. Lots of Asian tourists milling around, the one club had a long excited queue 4 or 5 abreast in front of a closed door. A door girl came up to me, I asked what's up here? She said "boom boom show, but no can walk in customer, only tour, you want see show? 1200 baht, expensive." I passed. Interesting corner.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Those who know my posts, know that I hate wasting cash, and am to a degree ... cheap. Created the church of [b]LDs and BFs are for Noobs, Tourists, and Suckers[/b]. However, this is completely different, helping these gals with medical problems. If anything, the more I think of it the more am convinced this the honorable thing to do.
To me, it makes sense to spend 800 baht helping a gal to get her tooth pulled, but completely wasteful spending 800 baht on two LDs and a BF.
--Popper[/QUOTE]Popper,
You do not need a reason to be human, I have the same principal about LDs and BF.
Paying these 800 will make you feel good about yourself and this worth more than that.
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quick news. got a new cell phone. in brief, my older cell was a sony-ericsson v-800 which was made in 2004 and got at big-c in 2007 for 1200 baht . great as a phone, but camera at 1.3 million pixels was lacking. this one is a used 2007 sony-ericsson k810 and has a 3.2 million pixel camera for 2000 baht. not at big-c or tuc-com but found by accident at some small place at soi bekow. huge sony-ericsson fan: interface is exactly the same. am convinced that sony-ericsson finest phone out there. quality. outstanding camera -- since sony themself makes cameras. most importantly is bar girls will not steal it cause it's not a nokia. :)
my visa was to expire this morning so went to jomtien to extend. went to immigration. thing is that immigration people need fail many iq tests to become an immigration officer. this is everywhere, and in my experience, us is the worst. anyway, went in. they told me to go next door and get some photocopies of pages from passport and pictures. did exactly as told. took it to them, and guy was upset with me since the wrong pages were photocopied. also got too many photographs of myself. well, smiled, paid my 1900 baht, and eventually got the seven day extension.
way back to pattaya on the 10 baht tuk tuk and an older female gets on. to me, she is hot. looks like ms robinson from the movie. suddenly, i get this song playing in my head:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny4qb1bkl3g[/url]
ask her where she going, and she gives some indefinite answer. "you want go with me?" [b]ok.[/b] "500 baht." [b]ok.[/b] "why ms robinson, are you trying to seduce me?" [b] i speak enguish lit-noi.[/b]
go to hotel and took some picts (see picture 1 and 2). to be clear, she a very sexy 35-plus year old lady. no kids. she looked hot in that black dress -- that first picture did not really hit the mark however. without the dress tho, bit lacking. that said, i fulfilled my fantasy of analing ms robinson. big oll butt too. was a real good sport about it: [b]you pay me 100 baht more for dat, ok.[/b]
now that this trip is unfortunately coming to an end, i am thinking of sprinting past the finished line by getting laid as many times as possible before leaving paradise, with two if not three or more gals a day.
am doing research now on hotels in pattaya which will write up (sorry jackson, but this will take at minimum until early october). walked bliss lounge. took out my brand new 2007 sony-ericsson phone to take picts of the door girls, but like cock-roaches they just rep001tered. nope. sorry, but no picts from there. however, i did get a picture of the inside a room of bliss. was really shocked because the room was totally dark, and yet that sony 3.2 million pixel camera took the shot as if it were completely light (see picture 3). you can see the dental type chair there, and when giving the bj, her head was bobbing up and down with the music in a dance like motion.
night came and went hunting and near lucifers. saw one gal. we started talking. really a sweetie. like real yummie. anyway, offered for her to stop by my hotel. she said ok. i offered 500. she wanted 1000. naaaa. i mean, the night is young, and there are countless gals around. she was very cool about it. kissed her on the cheek and she went on her way.
it is nice to refuse a gal over $15.00.
next real prospect, was ok looking. face a seven - bit of acne. body a 8. found out later that her tits had some silicone in them. not that much. she was truly amazing in the sack. i mean, she wanted dick more than i wanted pussy. absolutely completely wild in the sack. she quickly orgasmed twice and then three times. not an act - she loved dick - like addicted to it. anyway, here are picts from her. after she told me she works at a hair styling shop and gets 150 baht / day plus housing where she sleeps with three other girls in a bed and no ac. i told her to bring her roommates to my hotel room and i'll do all of them. she said ok.
ummm. was joking. and, pretty worn out as is. however, will consider her offer for the future. that gal who had her tooth pulled will stop by tomorrow, and i told her to bring her tooth to me. shall see.
... damn i hate pattaya.
--popper
the world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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[QUOTE=Start123]I was just asking if all women here can be pretty much bought with enough money. Even the married ones.[/QUOTE]Well, can they in your country? And if not, what makes you think Thailand would be any different?
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[QUOTE=Betong]Well, can they in your country? And if not, what makes you think Thailand would be any different?[/QUOTE]You saying Thai women are no different from let's say European or American women? Thailand is different,that's why there is a beach road with tons of women. This is pretty obvious the minute you get into Pattaya and see all those retired senior citizens walking around with hot chicks!
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]I walked up to some brights lights set a way back from the road, close to the Pattaya Nua bus station. 3 big clubs, Supergirls (also in Russian), one with a Thai name, and X Club. About 50 massive tour buses in front of them. Lots of Asian tourists milling around, the one club had a long excited queue 4 or 5 abreast in front of a closed door. A door girl came up to me, I asked what's up here? She said "boom boom show, but no can walk in customer, only tour, you want see show? 1200 baht, expensive." I passed. Interesting corner.[/QUOTE]
Rockoff,
Just another scam, Boom Boom show, no walkins only for tour but if you pay me 1200 baht, you can come in?
As you noted, just up from the Bus station, large empty lot and if you go to the back there are several clubs, the Thai club which I'm familar but all three do get all their busy from tour groups since who the hell would ever find this place especially at night on Pattaya Nua? But the Thai club you can get in with the following ( for whatever reason ) you got to have your Passport ( no copies )to get in and it's 1,000 baht.
Inside this show you see a bunch of naked guys come out with big hard on and a drum around their neck banging on the drums. As noted it is a sex show with guys fucking a girl and so forth and guys fucking guys. If that is your thing and never seen anything like this it might be worth the 1,000 Baht, I know a guy that went in and stay to see the show nearly 3 times on the start of the 3rd time they kicked him out?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Start123]You saying Thai women are no different from let's say European or American women? Thailand is different,that's why there is a beach road with tons of women. This is pretty obvious the minute you get into Pattaya and see all those retired senior citizens walking around with hot chicks![/QUOTE]
I don't want to open up a huge discussion but something is really wrong here as you continue to respond?????? so I'm just not going to say anything and just let you continue with your way of thinking and hope your stay here in Pattaya is enjoyable and safe?
LBM
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Widows and Orphans Fund
Good to see the MiB making a great effort to raise charitable donations for the above fund. Just a friendly wave from the few MiB standing outside the new Hilton site on Beach Road to the passing scooter riders, and they all pulled over and happily made a sizeable donation.
I say 'all', I really mean just farangs. It seems that it is only farangs who commit driving transgressions in Pattaya, and the locals are remarkably good and safe drivers.
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Kumbu has written elsewhere about the emotional trajectory one passes through on arriving in Pattaya. With me there is a clear day or two of excitement, then ennui sets in and I start to feel 'what's the point?' It usually takes meeting someone special to jerk me out of that (and I use the term loosely), so today after wondering whether I could be bothered to wander down to Soi 6 for a little post-lunch relief, or whether I should save myself for Miss Y (who will almost certainly not turn up tonight), I chose the former.
Needing to avoid the 3 Angels Bar, I sloped down Soi 6/1 as far as the first alley way, and crossed into Soi 6 proper. Just there I met a sweet young thing who was just emptying the remains of her lunch into a bin before heading back to work (romance can be found in the strangest places...) I had a quick chat and discovered the vital statistics (name, age and where she works), before heading on down the Soi. I was very tempted, but I couldn't realistically choose the first girl I saw in Soi 6 when I wasn't even in Soi 6 yet.
So I continued down, and was finally persuaded into 'smoke & fire bar' or 'fag & ashes' or something similar, where another sweet young thing was playing hard to get. We sat down inside for a drink, but I soon realised that the 'playing hard to get' act was not an act, and she was genuinely not interested in me (albeit very interested in my wallet). Fair's fair, so I decided I wouldn't waste my or her time, and politely made my excuses and left.
Wandering back up the street I spotted another SYT, and paused to chat to her. She politely told me her name, and her age, saying that 'she had told me before'. Oops, indeed she had, and had repeated the details whilst in my bed on Sunday night... Memory like a goldfish...
So that was that then, back up to the first bar with Miss O. She was as surprised to see me as I was surprised to be returning. Straight inside for a G&T, with me still wondering whether this was going to be a reconnaissance and phone-number gathering, or the real deal. She had her own plans, and managed to persuade me after about 5 minutes. So straight up to the room it was, and into action without even pausing for a shower. Yeugh, you might think, but she wasn't bothered and I knew she would be cleaner than clean.
Actually it later transpired that she had had 5 showers already that day, including the early morning one, so I guess she was getting a bit bored with them. Rest assured though, we both showered afterwards.
She is one hard-working lady. Finishes at the bar at 11pm, then off to Walking Street for the night shift. She has to work hard because one of her 6 farang boyfriends is coming over soon, and she has to stay with him. Although she did confess that sometimes when the boyfriends sleep she sometimes pops out for a quick ST. Well, why not? She told me what she earns each week (25,000Bht), and she seems to enjoy earning it, so no complaints there.
Anyway, she was great, and great fun too. I have her phone number, and if Miss Y fails to materialise tonight then Miss O has another customer for tonight joining the queue... :)
I'm back in the groove again.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I'm just not going to say anything and just let you continue with your way of thinking and hope your stay here in Pattaya is enjoyable and safe?[/QUOTE]You sound like much more of a gentleman than me, so I think I'll follow your lead!
(Though if was going to respond, just in case the OP is an American, I was in the U.S.A. once and a crack ho offered to get into my car and give me a blowjob for $20. I've always wanted to know if that was the standard rate for all American women, or if you have to pay more for the 'good' ones?)
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]As noted it is a sex show[/QUOTE]
The best thing about the bonking in the Patpong boy bars is the reaction of the Filipinas I take there. And even for 3 of us it's still cheaper than 1000 ... so I doubt I'll go back to the Pattaya Nua ones ...
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]who the hell would ever find this place especially at night on Pattaya Nua?[/QUOTE]
Oh, I'm always curious about those "who the hell would ever find" places ... must confess haven't turned up many gems so far.
Thanks for the answer!
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[QUOTE=Betong]You sound like much more of a gentleman than me, so I think I'll follow your lead!
(Though if was going to respond, just in case the OP is an American, I was in the U.S.A. once and a crack ho offered to get into my car and give me a blowjob for $20. I've always wanted to know if that was the standard rate for all American women, or if you have to pay more for the 'good' ones?)[/QUOTE]
I want to lay it into this guy and give him more than a few cents of common sense but what good is it going to do? Yes! a American and nothing wrong with that since I'm one but this type of dementia and behavior isn't just confine to one race or country?
Personally depending on when you were in America, it isn't the standard rate for all American women, since I've gotten one for less than $10.00 in the past but that was when I was young and stupid. Now at my age I pay more and they got to have at least teeth otherwise I just can't stay hard? I've gone from lo-so to Hi-so?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Petertaylor]Hi,
Plan to be in Patts from 20th Nov for 10 days or so and thinking of staying in the above. What have been your experiences? Is it near the Jomtien bars and Walking St?
Grateful for any views/experiences.
Peter[/QUOTE]
I have not stayed there but people who I knew have and enjoyed the experience, had no problems and would stay there again.
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Residence Garden
[QUOTE=Petertaylor]Hi,
Plan to be in Patts from 20th Nov for 10 days or so and thinking of staying in the above. What have been your experiences? Is it near the Jomtien bars and Walking St?
Grateful for any views/experiences.
Peter[/QUOTE]
It is a great hotel at a good price if booked at FLB Bar's website, 1450 Bt. It is not really near anything though. You will have to take the Bt bus to get anywhere. It is a 10 to 15 min walk to walking st and forever to Jomtien.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1]Good to see the MiB making a great effort to raise charitable donations for the above fund. Just a friendly wave from the few MiB standing outside the new Hilton site on Beach Road to the passing scooter riders, and they all pulled over and happily made a sizeable donation.
I say 'all', I really mean just farangs. It seems that it is only farangs who commit driving transgressions in Pattaya, and the locals are remarkably good and safe drivers.[/QUOTE]Follow all the road rules, helmet, make sure you have your driver's license at all times, and ride in the far right lane nonchalantly. I have only been pulled over and seen them pull people over from the left lane which is closest to the police station because they stand on that side. They never pull people over who are riding in the lane closest to the beach. Even if they tried to pull you over from that right lane you should be looking nonchalantly away from them and going fast enough to miss them trying to pull you over.
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300 baht a-gogo girl
guys,
i broke my own rule last night regarding my refusal to pay the obligatory 600 baht bf in an a-gogo. i was in a relatively new joint in the soi lk metro/diana/buakoa 'pussy triangle' when i spotted a girl who really took my fancy. she was a waitress, not a dancer, 19 years old, a week in the job and before that she worked in a shopping mall (so she said), childless to boot. i didn't buy her a ld drink but i did give her a 20 baht tip by slipping my hand deftly inside her blouse and having a quick grope of her titties. my recon revealed perfect breasts, and i mean perfect in my book, full, firm tor****s with just a hint of protruding nipple. i immediately knew i had to figure out a way of getting this lass back to my lair - but how? just for the sake of conversation i muttered 'how much is the barfine?' to which she told me it was the standard 600 baht. then i asked, 'and how much for you?' to which she answered something indicipherable above the music. i thought i'd misheard her because i was sure she said 300 baht st. so, i checked, 'saam roi?' and i instantly saw the confirmation flash in her eager eyes. i didn't hesistate. done deal. i paid the 600 baht bf and took her back to my dungeon. fantastic. so fresh. after a two hour session during which i 3-holed the lovely lady (her butt was v. tight), and during which she climaxed twice, i paid her the agreed 300 + 100 tip and a pair of new panties.
she was super thrilled. instant gfe. wanted to know when she could see me again and she clung to my arm like a barnacle as i eswcorted her back to her place of employment and with a wave and a smile flung her back into the sea.
not much of a story, i know, but 300 baht st for a gal (ok, a hot waitress) from an a-gogo (+ the 600 bf). not bad.
this town never fails to surprise and delight. another boring night in pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Doppel One]Guys,
I broke my own rule last night regarding my refusal to pay the obligatory 600 baht BF in an a-gogo.
Not much of a story, I know, but 300 baht ST for a gal (ok, a hot waitress) from an a-gogo (+ the 600 BF). Not bad.[/QUOTE]
Some rules are made to be broken in certain situations. And this appears to be one of those situations. Sounds like you could have pulled LT from her for that same price. It is actually a very big story. I have never heard of the "tip" being less than the BF in Thailand....and 50% less at that. Maybe she thought she was in PI.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Follow all the road rules, helmet, make sure you have your driver's license at all times, and ride in the far right lane nonchalantly. I have only been pulled over and seen them pull people over from the left lane which is closest to the police station because they stand on that side. They never pull people over who are riding in the lane closest to the beach. Even if they tried to pull you over from that right lane you should be looking nonchalantly away from them and going fast enough to miss them trying to pull you over.[/QUOTE]Good advice. Luckily I was just walking past this time. My only brush with the MiB was when I left my bike parked in Waking Street beyond 6pm. Returned to find it chained up, but a nice policeman would unlock it for 300, er, no, 600Bht. It was the rapidity of the doubling of the fine as he nearly forgot the faring surcharge that nearly made me laugh.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I don't want to open up a huge discussion but something is really wrong here as you continue to respond?????? so I'm just not going to say anything and just let you continue with your way of thinking and hope your stay here in Pattaya is enjoyable and safe?
LBM[/QUOTE]
Completely agree LBM. Such people are infuriating. Yea ... let's compare those SWs on OBT in Orlando, Miracle Mile in Tuscon, or Van Buren in Phx or those on Hollywood Boulevard to [b]all Americans living all across America[/b]. Brilliant logic.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
Follow all the road rules, helmet, make sure you have your driver's license at all times, and ride in the far right lane nonchalantly. I have only been pulled over and seen them pull people over from the left lane which is closest to the police station because they stand on that side. They never pull people over who are riding in the lane closest to the beach. Even if they tried to pull you over from that right lane you should be looking nonchalantly away from them and going fast enough to miss them trying to pull you over.[/QUOTE]
Personally never ride motor bikes in Pattaya. Seen too many accidents. Question is not if but [b]when [/b]you get in an accident. Only a matter of time. Suspect I one of the few, but I walk everywhere. Like the exercise too. Few times I take the 10 baht bus --- very rare.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]...Suspect I one of the few, but I walk everywhere. Like the exercise too. Few times I take the 10 baht bus --- very rare.[/QUOTE]
Well, I guess its true, the ladies (generally) won't refuse one just for being sweaty and stinky.
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[QUOTE=Doppel One] So, I checked, 'saam roi?' and I instantly saw the confirmation flash in her eager eyes. I didn't hesistate. Done deal. I paid the 600 baht BF and took her back to my dungeon. Fantastic. So fresh. After a two hour session during which I 3-holed the lovely lady (her butt was v. tight), and during which she climaxed twice, I paid her the agreed 300 + 100 tip and a pair of new panties.
She was super thrilled. Instant GFE. Wanted to know when she could see me again and she clung to my arm like a barnacle as I eswcorted her back to her place of employment and with a wave and a smile flung her back into the sea.
Not much of a story, I know, but 300 baht ST for a gal (ok, a hot waitress) from an a-gogo (+ the 600 BF). Not bad.
This town never fails to surprise and delight. Another boring night in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
No....actually this is quite a story....very impressive....keep up the good work!!
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Quik Report
[QUOTE=Opebo]Well, I guess its true, the ladies (generally) won't refuse one just for being sweaty and stinky.[/QUOTE]
You are correct here. The ladies prefer men who are in shape, and not the typical American fatty.
Quik report:
I've been going full ahead. Having three gals a day for nearly a week now before leaving paradise. I admit that am really quite worn out now. Need some Vit C since I cannot realistically keep this pace w/out some help -- and no sympathy out there, eh??
Just as an example, from yesterday I met up with the gal who I paid for dental work. She was absolutely thrilled her teeth were fixed. To review, had dental problems. After she showed me her tooth and what a mess her back molar was, it was obvious. I told her to get an estimate from a few dentists and would pay for it. Total cost was 1200 baht -- 800 to pull tooth, 200 for xray, and 200 for a few days of medicine to numb the pain (see pic 1).
To me, question is not why this so cheap, but how the F**K any sane person could defend the US healthcare system -- assuming a tooth extract etc cost over 1200 baht back US. Anyway, don't get me started. Recommend dental / medical care here in LOS. My teeth were cleaned for 700 baht and they said a filling need be replaced at a cost of 800 baht -- which I will get to eventually. And how much would that cost in the US ... .
Moving on. After my dental gal for morning, and she was very very grateful trust me, did Bliss about 3:PM. Now, there were no attractive gals in front of the place yesterday afternoon. Personally, I don't care, and am willing to suffer. Went with an unattractive gal to the counter, and gal behind the counter asked "Do you want her?" I replied half joking, "No, I want you." She smiled and walked to me. Anyway, strategy is if there is no one attractive outside, just grab the one behind the counter. Or ... just take an unattractive one. I mean, does it really matter.
At night wandered a bit. Saw this one gal near entrance of Pattaya Gardens and she had very white skin, exotic look. Figured she Chinese Thai, but after speaking to her, she from Uzbekistan. Ummmm. OK. She wanted 2000 baht ST. Had no interest I almost always pay 500 baht, and my absolute limit on ST is 700; OK, once I paid 800 baht in a fit of insanity. However, thinking about it later, 2000 baht is cost for those gogo gals, so kinda not unreasonable. And she really did look good. Imports are always more expensive anyway.
Found this other gal around the same place. She looked cute. Small (see picts 2 and 3). As I took picts of her using my outstanding Sony-Ericsson 3.2MP cell, she kept waving her hand in from of the damn camera. As you can see, her tits were small. However, the padding on her bra was huge. I kept playing with her tits saying "small, small, small, small" and then played with her bra saying "big, big, big, big, big". Whoever invented the padded bra should be flogged.
Well, time to get laid. Damn I hate it here in Pattaya.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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holiday blitz
Well, I'm back home after 2weeks in patty and I can honestly come to one conclusion, "SOI 6 GIRLS RULE".
And I truelly want to scream that out, which I did on ocassions from the balcony of the hotel I was staying at.
Anyway, after spending close to 14hours in transit and transfers arrived in Bangkok late and by the time I cleared customs and immigration, fished tailed through all the limo and private car operators who wanted about 2500bht.
Went outside and caught a taxi who charged me 1300bht to patts which included all tolls.
Got to my hotel situated off walking street just after midnight and by that time I decided to stay in and rest up for the next day.
Monday morning came and after a quick workout in the hotel gym and breakfast ventured outside for some touristy things and do some recon. Got about 100meters down walking street when came across 2 very eager providers. Wanted 1000 each for long time, I asked if that included doing both of them in the ass, which the reply was yes. Decided to get the phone number of the quiet one and rang her later that afternoon.
Her name was 'sa', nice body and great ass but after close to 4hours of non stop licking, sucking and fucking to which she came 3 times refused to give me her butt hole for my pleasure. She was exhausted and needed to sleep, so I let her for acouple of hours.
After she woke, I gave her 500bht and told her to go home. She asked why and I simply told her that I wanted anal which she agreed to do and that I don't tolerate liars.
Later that night decided to just sit and drink at one of the open bars and just watch the flesh walk up and down the street, watched till about 6 in the morning to which only a handful of stunners caught my eye, all already with clients. Jezz I'm a fussy bastard.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]You are correct here. The ladies prefer men who are in shape, and not the typical American fatty.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.[/QUOTE]
Damn! And I thought all those girls really liked me.
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Pattaya beter or Kuala Lumpur?
Hi guys, thanks to the lecture of this GREAT ISG Forum, I've just started my final countdown, as my first trip ever to LOS has already been booked! Arrive at begining of December. In fact it will me my first trip not only to LOS but to this part of world. Therefore I have some questions. As I will stop for a few days in Delhi or Mumbai - I am interested how P4P scene looks at these cities? Reports don't tell to much about that, just except problems and high prices... But I've red some good reports on Kuala Lumpur thread, so I consider if it gonna be worth checking out some KL brothels? Flights from LOS and back are relatively cheap, so if there is anything (mongering, I mean) better or cheaper than in Pattaya - maybe I should give it a go? Will I find there something that can not be found in Pattaya? Other kind of girls or attitude or prices?
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Hi guys, thanks to the lecture of this GREAT ISG Forum, I've just started my final countdown, as my first trip ever to LOS has already been booked! Arrive at begining of December. In fact it will me my first trip not only to LOS but to this part of world. Therefore I have some questions. As I will stop for a few days in Delhi or Mumbai - I am interested how P4P scene looks at these cities? Reports don't tell to much about that, just except problems and high prices... But I've red some good reports on Kuala Lumpur thread, so I consider if it gonna be worth checking out some KL brothels? Flights from LOS and back are relatively cheap, so if there is anything (mongering, I mean) better or cheaper than in Pattaya - maybe I should give it a go? Will I find there something that can not be found in Pattaya? Other kind of girls or attitude or prices?[/QUOTE]
Don't waste your time in KL. The only thing worth checking out there is the Beach Club and this is if you MUST spend a night there. Brothels are crap hardly anything descent in them.
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Save your money for Thailand don't waste it in Mumbai and definitely not Delhi I am not saying that you can't get good stuff here in India you surely do but the prices are exorbitant and often not matched by service quality. The fact is nothing compares to LOS in this part of the world. Have a great trip.
DD
[QUOTE=Goldenam]Hi guys, thanks to the lecture of this GREAT ISG Forum, I've just started my final countdown, as my first trip ever to LOS has already been booked! Arrive at begining of December. In fact it will me my first trip not only to LOS but to this part of world. Therefore I have some questions. As I will stop for a few days in Delhi or Mumbai - I am interested how P4P scene looks at these cities? Reports don't tell to much about that, just except problems and high prices... But I've red some good reports on Kuala Lumpur thread, so I consider if it gonna be worth checking out some KL brothels? Flights from LOS and back are relatively cheap, so if there is anything (mongering, I mean) better or cheaper than in Pattaya - maybe I should give it a go? Will I find there something that can not be found in Pattaya? Other kind of girls or attitude or prices?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mc Don]Don't waste your time in KL. The only thing worth checking out there is the Beach Club and this is if you MUST spend a night there. Brothels are crap hardly anything descent in them.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I thought that guy was joking. I was in KL last September before I arrived in Thailand. KL - Pattaya? It's like comparing a toilet at the airport in Mumbai to Disneyland.
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Hi guys, thanks to the lecture of this GREAT ISG Forum, I've just started my final countdown, as my first trip ever to LOS has already been booked! Arrive at begining of December. In fact it will me my first trip not only to LOS but to this part of world. Therefore I have some questions. As I will stop for a few days in Delhi or Mumbai - I am interested how P4P scene looks at these cities? Reports don't tell to much about that, just except problems and high prices... But I've red some good reports on Kuala Lumpur thread, so I consider if it gonna be worth checking out some KL brothels? Flights from LOS and back are relatively cheap, so if there is anything (mongering, I mean) better or cheaper than in Pattaya - maybe I should give it a go? Will I find there something that can not be found in Pattaya? Other kind of girls or attitude or prices?[/QUOTE]
IMHO The only place that can be compared to Pattaya in SE Asia is Angeles City (Clark airport) near Manila. The only problem that it is the one tenth in size, if not less, compared to Pattaya. And not on the beach front.
Cebu Pacific Air flies direct from Bangkok and Airasia from Kuala Lumpur.
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[QUOTE=]Have a great trip.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot, you and all the rest of brothers in arms '-) Will have great trip, for sure! Dreamed about asian girls for years and now it seems my dreams come truth... So better to save my time and money for LOS? All right, how about Cambodia or Birma or Laos? I just wonder if i might find in Pattaya some indo or lao or malayan etc. girls? I have nothing against thai (how could I) but I just like some. Some bio-diversity :) And really don't know what time I could be back there.
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interesting article I came across in the New York Times
pattaya, thailand - somewhere in the world there may be a city with a more seedy reputation, a place more devoted to the sex industry and more notorious as a haven for criminals on the lam. but probably not.
when dusk comes to this beach resort, a sea of pink neon bulbs casts a pale glow onto the thickly made-up faces of thousands of women (and some men) who sit on bar stools waiting for their patrons.
if las vegas is sin city, pattaya is a bear hug from lucifer himself.
and yet, amid the back alleys jammed with girlie bars and a beachfront peopled with what the thais euphemistically call "service women," there are signs of change.
indian couples, chinese tour groups and vacationing russian families stroll around the city. a dozen luxury hotels cater to the weekend crowd of wealthy thais from bangkok who mingle with tourists at a huge shopping mall. pattaya has a growing number of fancy restaurants, an annual music festival and, perhaps most improbably, regular polo tournaments.
long derided as a city of sleaze, the city is reaching for respectability.
a two-hour drive from bangkok, pattaya was little more than a fishing village four decades ago when u.s. soldiers fighting in the vietnam war discovered a pristine, coral-filled bay. tens of thousands of lonely soldiers armed with dollars sought respite from the war in a country of relative poverty, lax law enforcement and historically tolerant attitudes toward prostitution. the result was predictable.
pattaya survived the departure of the g.i.'s by expanding into sex tourism. visitors to thailand in the 1970s were offered brochures at the bangkok airport showing pictures of available companions. the booth at the airport no longer exists, but the business lives on: for at least the past decade, men have outnumbered women as tourists in thailand. they make up about 60 percent of foreign visitors in thailand compared with 52 percent in nearby, law-abiding singapore.
in recent years the pattaya tourist industry has sought to diversify its client base. hotel managers learned that, despite jokes about recession-proof industries, relying heavily on a western male clientele was unwise at a time when the united states and europe were buffeted by recession.
tourism agencies now actively seek out visitors from the rising economies of china and india.
"there's definitely been a change," said shyam anugonda, a 39-year-old lawyer from bangalore, india, whose first trip to pattaya was eight years ago, when he was single.
"it was more sex oriented before," mr. anugonda said as he shopped for thai fabrics with his wife, kavitha.
this time, mr. anugonda's five-day vacation included an elephant show and parasailing.
the government is encouraging the rebranding of pattaya by developing a master plan for the city, including a monorail to help relieve traffic-clogged streets, a redrawn waterfront and a high-speed rail line from bangkok. the plan is awaiting approval from the thai cabinet.
the police, too, say they are trying to clean up the city's image.
"there are people who say pattaya is the paradise of criminals," said col. atiwit kamolrat, the head of the immigration police. "it's now going to be impossible for them to hide here."
his office's transnational crime data center combs through lists of wanted criminals from foreign governments and cross-references them with hotel registration logs and visa renewal applications. since the beginning of the year, the office has arrested 12 foreign criminals hiding out in pattaya, colonel atiwit said.
somchet thinaphong, a board member charged with the city's redevelopment plan at the designated areas for sustainable tourism administration, a government agency, said pattaya's face-lift would cost 32 billion baht, or about $1 billion. he spoke in generalities about "sustainable development" and making the city more ecologically friendly.
but here in pattaya, officials chuckle derisively at the notion that the city can be totally sanitized. stamping out pattaya's sex industry is fantasy, said niti kongrut, the director of the pattaya branch of the thai government's tourism office.
"you talk about sustainable development, how about prostitutes? they have been around for a very long time," mr. niti said. "we can't close down the go-go bars. it's a free country. besides, it makes money."
for decades, officials have wrestled with the question of what to do about the seedy side of the city, mr. niti said. "now we just ignore them and try to promote other activities."
for visitors who have no intention of partaking in it, the sex industry has become a sort of spectacle, a red-light district that makes its counterparts in other cities seem almost victorian.
olga bidenko, 28, a tourist from ukraine who came to pattaya with a colleague from the marketing company she works for, said she was entertained by walking street, a thoroughfare stretching a kilometer and a half, or about a mile, blocked to motor traffic and packed with bars. typical of the bars is sexy airline, where women dressed in old-fashioned air hostess outfits call out to prospective patrons passing by.
"we thought amsterdam was the sex capital of the world," said ms. bidenko, 28. "but now that i've been here, i think amsterdam is a perfectly respectable c
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Is Pattaya worth it for just a few days?
I'll be in Thailand for 5 nights in November. Would it be worth it to head down to Pattaya for, say, 3 of those nights? Or would it make more sense to just stay in Bangkok to make the most use of my brief stay?
I've been to Bangkok once before (non-mongering), so I don't need to re-do all of the Temples and other tourist-type stuff. I really just want to relax and bone girls.
Appreciate any suggestions as how to break down five days between Bangkok and/or Pattaya? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=El Greco]IMHO The only place that can be compared to Pattaya in SE Asia is Angeles City (Clark airport) near Manila. The only problem that it is the one tenth in size, if not less, compared to Pattaya. And not on the beach front.
Cebu Pacific Air flies direct from Bangkok and Airasia from Kuala Lumpur.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what I am doing next week... 1 day BK, 3 in Pattaya and a two weeks in manila and angeles. I actually prefer AC because of its size and the fact that its still relatively undiscovered by the non mongering public... Manila has also some good areas worth checking out.
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[QUOTE=Combo]I'll be in Thailand for 5 nights in November. Would it be worth it to head down to Pattaya for, say, 3 of those nights? Or would it make more sense to just stay in Bangkok to make the most use of my brief stay?
I've been to Bangkok once before (non-mongering), so I don't need to re-do all of the Temples and other tourist-type stuff. I really just want to relax and bone girls.
Appreciate any suggestions as how to break down five days between Bangkok and/or Pattaya? Thanks.[/QUOTE]
If you are going just for mongering then why would you want to stay in bangkok more then a day or two? You will find everything in Pattaya plus lot more without the hustle you get in Bangkok.
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Yesterday Report
[QUOTE=El Greco]IMHO The only place that can be compared to Pattaya in SE Asia is Angeles City (Clark airport) near Manila. The only problem that it is the one tenth in size, if not less, compared to Pattaya. And not on the beach front.
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Disagree. Personally am rater disgusted with AC: pollution, beggars, outrageous LD pressure and BF costs, along w/skyrocketing hotel prices. The bar mafia control that place, and have destroyed the fun and turned it to a business it IMO. I've had [b]outstanding[/b] times in Jakarta and heard great things of Bali. Also done Cebu, Manila, and within LOS done Samui / BKK. All different, recommended, and each with their own personality.
Yesterday report. My goal is to finish this race with three gals a day for these last few days I am here. However, yesterday I stumbled. Only had two gals, not three. Checked, and when cuming little coming out. Am nearly dry from all the f*cking. However, am not here to make excuses. Shall race on.
Yesterday went to the Thai bar. Place was all possy. Countless gals. Made friends with a bunch of them by buying them this bottle of Thai whiskey (see pic). Cost for the whole bottle is 170 baht, and apparently the bar makes the whiskey themself. There is a different mix for the "mans" whiskey and for the "womans" whiskey. Tasting both the "mans" whiskey bit more bitter, while the "womans" more smooth.
As you can see from the picture, this whiskey bottle had countless shots. I had about five or six, and the gals had the rest. Hell, no idea if finished or not. Stuff had bit of a wallop.
Walking around the bar, there was one gal with huge non-silicon tatood tits hanging out. Had no choice. Was completely hypnotized and had to have them. Now, I do admit that I kinda lost my sanity as I gave her 350 baht per tit (see picts). But man, when I got those mountains home, just got lost on the different trails. Also is a pict of the tatoo on her back.
Few hours afterwards met up with a friend who insisted a bar hop. Yea, just love spending 100 baht for a damn ice tea after that 170 baht Thai whiskey which had a million shots.
We hit Peppermint, Lollipop, some other place near it which name I forgot, and air flight (I think that the name). The first three gogos were a nightmare. Crowded with people, smoking, Thai guys telling you where to sit (you ignore them), and often when you hit the bathroom you get hit of for a few baht when drying your hands. At one of the gogos about 10 Thai cops entered the place. My friend said "Time to go." Why? "Because this could be a raid for drugs, and I do not want to head to the police station and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in a bottle." We left, and although I do not know if it was a raid, I think that he was correct to leave. Of those gogos, Airline (think that the name) was clearly the best. The girls were most attractive, and many naked.
Left the gogos and soon after grabbed a gal at Insomnia Bar. She was strong, but very cunty. Gave a great lay. However, things which came out of her mouth were to me a turnoff. No picts of her - not a keeper.
Days here appear coming to a close. Damn I hate it here.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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My Two Cents worth.....
Goodman, I am based in KL and travel the region. May I asked your intention to go to KL? If it is for just a visit with some purpose of site-seeing and maybe some light shopping than welcome. If you are visiting for mongering purposes, my suggestion is to save your money for Thailand because:
(1) The ON for Beach Club will set you back between RM700 - RM1000 per night. For that kind of money you can have at least 4 LT in Pattaya or 3 LT in Bangkok (on average) and have money to spare;
(2) The "package" deal in Spa / Massage places in KL goes from RM198 - RM230 per shot per hour and the girls are average. For the same price you can get a great Soapie Massage in Bangkok or Pattaya with super model quality girls and get 2 shots.
(3) For other nightlife where else can you find whole streets full of pub and go-go bars filled with juicy and sweet girls dancing nude or semi-nude than in Bangkok or Pattaya?
(4) For food, my opinion is that Thai food is great....
Hope my POV helps....
Cheers
[QUOTE=Goldenam]Hi guys, thanks to the lecture of this GREAT ISG Forum, I've just started my final countdown, as my first trip ever to LOS has already been booked! Arrive at begining of December. In fact it will me my first trip not only to LOS but to this part of world. Therefore I have some questions. As I will stop for a few days in Delhi or Mumbai - I am interested how P4P scene looks at these cities? Reports don't tell to much about that, just except problems and high prices... But I've red some good reports on Kuala Lumpur thread, so I consider if it gonna be worth checking out some KL brothels? Flights from LOS and back are relatively cheap, so if there is anything (mongering, I mean) better or cheaper than in Pattaya - maybe I should give it a go? Will I find there something that can not be found in Pattaya? Other kind of girls or attitude or prices?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mc Don]Don't waste your time in KL. The only thing worth checking out there is the Beach Club and this is if you MUST spend a night there. Brothels are crap, hardly anything decent in them.[/QUOTE]Hate to correct anyone's grammar, but you mean 'hardly anyone decent in them'. 'Anything' would be for inanimate objects, whereas the girls are of course people. :)
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[QUOTE=Goldenam]Hi guys, thanks to the lecture of this GREAT ISG Forum, I've just started my final countdown, as my first trip ever to LOS has already been booked! Arrive at begining of December. In fact it will me my first trip not only to LOS but to this part of world. Therefore I have some questions. As I will stop for a few days in Delhi or Mumbai - I am interested how P4P scene looks at these cities? Reports don't tell to much about that, just except problems and high prices... But I've red some good reports on Kuala Lumpur thread, so I consider if it gonna be worth checking out some KL brothels? Flights from LOS and back are relatively cheap, so if there is anything (mongering, I mean) better or cheaper than in Pattaya - maybe I should give it a go? Will I find there something that can not be found in Pattaya? Other kind of girls or attitude or prices?[/QUOTE]
KL is more expensive and can only be recommended if one is into ethnic diversity in regards to mongering- malay/PRC/indian/indonesian. Since I have a predilection for indian girls I give KL massive props but otherwise you may want to give it a miss. If you do go to KL give the SW a miss and just hit the saunas and MP's. Safer and more convenient IMHO.
I too will be going to India next year but after viewing the relevant boards I don't have high hopes and will probably be reduced to choking the chicken for the duration of the trip.
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holiday blitz part2
Again, woke up in the morning and did the same routine, when in the afternoon laying in bed, watching tv, decided tonight was the night to order some takeout from the devilsden.
Now, to be totally honest with you guys, there was only two reasons why I decided to holiday in Pattaya and both of those reasons worked at the devilsden.
So imagine my shock and surprise when I rang and found out that joy had just been sponsored a week earlier and nolonger works there. I was shattered, but lucky for me I thought that girl number two was still available, so I booked her outcall for the night. I don't want to mention her name cause of what I considered happened but I will say that she's one of the most talked about and very popular.
She arrived spot on time at 10pm and when I opened the door my jaw dropped, she was more of a stunner in person than her photos with a great body and fantastic petite perky bubble butt and that pussy cat voice she has, instant hard on.
Anyway, we had dinner and chatted then down to business for a few hours, I must admit her pussy and asshole tasted great and when I came up for air she was wide eyed and looking at me like I was some kind of god. She was a good fuck too,. But., only allowed me two pops, one at night and the other a good morning fuck and she was a total ice queen the rest of the time.
Ok, I'll admit that each session was around three hours but I'm the type of guy who likes to cuddle and kiss inbetween. This to me is a GFE, not just kissing while pumping the shit out of each other. Couldn't even warm up to her while going to sleep, she slept on her side and I on mine. Not even a playful foot fight which I tryed to start.
So after she got dressed and left my hotel I concluded that obviously these girls at the den are probably great for short time incalls where its just sex and go. But in no way expect much interaction between pops longtime.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]This will take me at least a week to get the data, and at least a week to put it together. Perhaps longer. Am starting it now. Thank you for you confidence.[/QUOTE]So where is these Thai bars list? Anybody else knows some of these bars? Would appreciate it very much as I am becoming a member of Poppers church.
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The 180 baht facial and a bottle of water
After reading all of the reports of the wooded area near the end of Walking Street I decided to check it out myself. Now I knew not to expect gogo quality girls. I walked to the end of Walking street until it ends at the 7-11 on the left side. You continue on the main road by making a left and walk a few minutes. The go-kart track is on the left hand side of the road. The small road which you want to walk on is on the right side of the street almost directly across from the go-kart track but it is obscured by the street overpass. Cross the street to the right side of the street and you will see the small road that goes uphill.
It seems like the long distance and holiday bus drivers park here to rest or wait or whatever. I think thats who these gals usually service. Their were atleast 10 buses with guys working on them, washing them etc.
Immediately as you start up the hill you seem some really terrible looking shacks on your left. Their were two gals as I started up the hill but I just said hi and kept walking knowing they would be there when I returned. As I walked I saw two girls at the top of the hill. As I got closer I could tell they were really really ugly and worn out. But they seemed friendly and offered me a BJ for 200 baht. I said ok and walked off of the main road into the woods about 20 years. I expected to find a shack there but she wanted to do it right there on the path. Now no matter how horny I could be there was no way-condom or no condom-that I could even touch this women. So I decided to wack off on her face. I asked her was it ok and she said sure for another 20 baht.
She wanted to be paid first so I said ok what the hell its only 200 baht if she does a bad job. I saw in my wallet I only had 3,180 baht. KNowing she didnt have change I said well another time because I am 20 baht short. She said no problem, got on her knees and took the shot. Rather than wiping it off with the paper towel I had she rubbed it in her face like lotion and literally took off. I remember one poster saying these girls used a lot of drugs and perhaps she went to get her fix.
As I was cleaning up another girl came up the path and approached me offering to give me another bj. I told her I just came and and told her she couldnt get me off again. She said no problem take your time. I said I only had 1000 baht notes left and we couldn't do it. I had a unopened bottle of water guys-and she took that as payment. As this was happening I was thinking "I cant wait to tell the ISG Pattaya forum about this".
It took me about five minutes but I shot it on her face as well and she took off running. It was funny they both did the same thing. As I was leaving the woods I saw them both racing on motorbikes going back up the hill past me.
One thing guys-it is hot in those woods and the mosquitoes are furious. All in all I did it for the experience-for 180 baht and a bottle of water.
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Lost Babes in the woods
In a Land of cheap clean available women why would you even try this thing is beyond me. I guesss this is the same as getting a girl in your car in new york city for $20 BJ.
I am not judgemental. Whatever rocks your boat. These girls may carry diseases and it is better to be on the safer side than be adventerous.
Long time ago I have gone into the Hill Tribes area and had sex without condom. But that was different.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]In a Land of cheap clean available women why would you even try this thing is beyond me. I guesss this is the same as getting a girl in your car in new york city for $20 BJ.
I am not judgemental. Whatever rocks your boat. These girls may carry diseases and it is better to be on the safer side than be adventerous.
Long time ago I have gone into the Hill Tribes area and had sex without condom. But that was different.[/QUOTE]
As I stated there are others on the board who have visited this area and I wanted to see what it was all about. In my report I pointed out I didn't want to have contact(physical) with them so I just jerked off on their faces.
My report also stated that it was not my cup of tea. And why would condomless sex in the year 2010 be different?
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Re: India
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick]I too will be going to India next year but after viewing the relevant boards I don't have high hopes and will probably be reduced to choking the chicken for the duration of the trip.[/QUOTE]
I'll second that. If a local's advice amounts to anything, it's a waste of time and money but for, maybe, sonagachi and some locales of mumbai.
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Real quick holiday + inquiry
After working like a dog for the past few months I suddenly found myself with a block of free time. I don't normally book foreign trips on a few days' notice, but I decided what the hell, as I'll be back to the grind in just a week. I managed to get to Pattaya just the other day. Today's my last day, and though I wanted to have at least 1 or 2 more days, at least I got to get back here.
Anyway, question I'd like to ask the residents here: went back to My Friend You Bar yesterday at Soi 6, and wound up being charged 1K baht for a beer (midafternoon) + BBBJ in the bar. This surprised me since I've been to this place several times in the past, and usually paid less than that for a BJ.
I'd like to think I wasn't fleeced. I don't want to avoid the place as it's one of the spots I practically always end up in each time I'm in Pattaya, but I may have to if they're going to charge me more than the market rate.
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[QUOTE=Dodgy Fellow]went back to My Friend You Bar yesterday at Soi 6, and wound up being charged 1K baht for a beer (midafternoon) + BBBJ in the bar.[/QUOTE]
I don't think I've been into that bar, but at Lick Bar it's always been 700 for a downstairs BJ, and drinks are generally under 100. I would definitely balk at paying the same price as an upstairs fuck.
I tried a little massage place near Oasis gogo on Soi Buakaow for the first time. 200 for an hour, 1500 for boomboom. This turned into 500 for an hour and 1300 for boomboom after she went out to confer with the management. They just had narrow mattresses separated by thin curtains.
The fumbling with the prices and the general freshness of the girl made me think that she must be very new, and that full service must not be that common there. Which I find a bit curious as there were a couple of mouthwatering morsels on staff. I didn't feel it was a bad deal, as this girl made a refreshing change from the (also lovely) soi 6 sluts. But it's far from a great deal.
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Pointe and Goldenam
I think India is an incredible place to visit as a tourist. But it's an incredibly bad place to visit as a monger. Go there and enjoy the cultural sites but save your pussy budget for Thailand or about any other country.
Indian women can be very hot, but it's almost impossible for a foreigner to penetrate the scene there.
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[QUOTE=Combo]Pointe and Goldenam
I think India is an incredible place to visit as a tourist. But it's an incredibly bad place to visit as a monger. Go there and enjoy the cultural sites but save your pussy budget for Thailand or about any other country.
Indian women can be very hot, but it's almost impossible for a foreigner to penetrate the scene there.[/QUOTE]
I had anticipated this and adjusted my plans accordingly to give my a week in Pattaya after I come back from India and it will be a hard three weeks to get through. Indian women are even more attractive than TG's in my mind but from where I come they are from a few and far between;( Just hoping my KL stopover will bear fruit.
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I have never been to India but I can hardly see the so appealing part that people talks about. Rather, just few days ago I was being told by a friend what a true shitty dumphole New Delhi is,
I do not want to offend anybody and actually get well along with Indians but just think, life is short and money is not infinite either, if you want to get sure results, go to places that have not the hundreds of shocking and unpleasant problems like India has.
I see many Indians visiting Thailand, do you see the opposite ?
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I have never been to India but I can hardly see the so appealing part that people talks about. Rather, just few days ago I was being told by a friend what a true shitty dumphole New Delhi is,
I do not want to offend anybody and actually get well along with Indians but just think, life is short and money is not infinite either, if you want to get sure results, go to places that have not the hundreds of shocking and unpleasant problems like India has.
I see many Indians visiting Thailand, do you see the opposite ?[/QUOTE]
At the risk of turning this into a 'why an earth would you want to monger in India' thread....I heartily agree with you N.O.G! I recently had the misfortune of living and working there for a year. My advice...don't bother!
Can we now get back to the subject in hand...?..wonderful pattaya!
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I have never been to India but I can hardly see the so appealing part that people talks about. Rather, just few days ago I was being told by a friend what a true shitty dumphole New Delhi is,
I do not want to offend anybody and actually get well along with Indians but just think, life is short and money is not infinite either, if you want to get sure results, go to places that have not the hundreds of shocking and unpleasant problems like India has.
I see many Indians visiting Thailand, do you see the opposite ?[/QUOTE]
I'm from India and whatever is said about India is right to the bone...I have scanned the geography of India top to bottom and I have nothing positive to say about my own country...its bad... real bad...regarding historical treasures....its overrated, expensive, double pricing and corrupt. Not worth your hard earned money...if you have a choice skip it..
Regarding having fun in India...less said the better...India is culturally, socially backward 1000 years, it needs a kick in the butt to rise up.....you say getting laid...if you could get a girls number ...i would be your slave for ever...even Indians find it impossible to get laid in India.
Why do you think.. In spite of we being the least preferred clients for Thai bar girls and with all smelly and cheap charlie comments...millions end up in Thailand ? :)
Yeah, we have nothing going back home, anything is better than the shit we grow in our own backyard.....Recently in a survey...more than 80% of Indians between the age 20 to 25 said they would live India if given a choice :)
Guys, seriously, think, think, think and contemplate before you make a drastic move with your hard earned money for a visit to India..if you have money then a bad mistake can be corrected else you will be sorry.
I'm writing this as i get lots of PM that, member's from here want to visit India...i always tell you are happy to come but don't complain later when you would shag at night with your right or left hand :)
Guys, common, i think we are over this India thing for pleasure ride...there is no place like Pattaya on earth. Period.
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yes and no
[QUOTE=Starchild2012]I'm from India and whatever is said about India is right to the bone...I have scanned the geography of India top to bottom and I have nothing positive to say about my own country...its bad... real bad...regarding historical treasures....its overrated, expensive, double pricing and corrupt. Not worth your hard earned money...if you have a choice skip it..
Regarding having fun in India...less said the better...India is culturally, socially backward 1000 years, it needs a kick in the butt to rise up.....you say getting laid...if you could get a girls number ...i would be your slave for ever...even Indians find it impossible to get laid in India.
Why do you think.. In spite of we being the least preferred clients for Thai bar girls and with all smelly and cheap charlie comments...millions end up in Thailand ? :)
Yeah, we have nothing going back home, anything is better than the shit we grow in our own backyard.....Recently in a survey...more than 80% of Indians between the age 20 to 25 said they would live India if given a choice :)
Guys, seriously, think, think, think and contemplate before you make a drastic move with your hard earned money for a visit to India..if you have money then a bad mistake can be corrected else you will be sorry.
I'm writing this as i get lots of PM that, member's from here want to visit India...i always tell you are happy to come but don't complain later when you would shag at night with your right or left hand :)
Guys, common, i think we are over this India thing for pleasure ride...there is no place like Pattaya on earth. Period.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree that India is a dead loss from a monger's perspective, but I think you are wrong from a general tourist's perspective. I can see why you think they way you do as India is an INCREDIBLY frustrating place at times. Standards of hygiene are not good and its one of the easiest places on earth for foreigners to get sick. The hassle factor can get VERY annoying. BUT from a westerner's perspective India is fascinating with interesting sounds sights and goings on around every corner. There are loads of things such as say the Lassi wallas you find in Jaipur that an Indian will find of no consequence but a foreigner may remember with fond memories 10 years on. Many really famous buildings/sites don't seem quite so impressive in reality. Stonehenge in the UK, Ayers Rock in Oz and The Pyramids in Egypt come to mind. The Taj Mahal lives up to its reputation as probably the most beautiful building on earth.
So India does have a love it or hate it reputation amongst foreign tourists. But for sure BYOB.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Quick news. Got a new cell phone. In brief, my older cell was a sony-ericsson v-800 which was made in 2004 and got at big-C in 2007 for 1200 baht . Great as a phone, but camera at 1.3 million pixels was lacking. This one is a used 2007 sony-ericsson k810 and has a 3.2 million pixel camera for 2000 baht. Not at Big-C or Tuc-Com but found by accident at some small place at Soi Bekow. Huge sony-ericsson fan: interface is exactly the same. Am convinced that sony-ericsson finest phone out there. Quality. Outstanding camera -- since sony themself makes cameras. Most importantly is bar girls will not steal it cause it's not a nokia. :)
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Great report Popper...enjoyed all your adventure in Pats...guys like you should stay in Pattaya for a long time so that less fortunate souls can enjoy a great report...hope you will be back soon :) good luck
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I completely agree that India is a dead loss from a monger's perspective, but I think you are wrong from a general tourist's perspective. I can see why you think they way you do as India is an INCREDIBLY frustrating place at times. Standards of hygiene are not good and its one of the easiest places on earth for foreigners to get sick. The hassle factor can get VERY annoying. BUT from a westerner's perspective India is fascinating with interesting sounds sights and goings on around every corner. There are loads of things such as say the Lassi wallas you find in Jaipur that an Indian will find of no consequence but a foreigner may remember with fond memories 10 years on. Many really famous buildings/sites don't seem quite so impressive in reality. Stonehenge in the UK, Ayers Rock in Oz and The Pyramids in Egypt come to mind. The Taj Mahal lives up to its reputation as probably the most beautiful building on earth.
So India does have a love it or hate it reputation amongst foreign tourists. But for sure BYOB.[/QUOTE]
True, from that perspective, i have read many Brits would rather live and die in Pattya than they will in london and i always thought whats wroung with london..its a great city...i guess all things become a novelty for an outsider and grass seems to be always greener on the other side :)
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Holiday blitz pt3
Half way through my first week in patts and already the days are starting to blur together, could be because having a hotel right on walking street is giving me much sleep.
Anyway, evening came and decided to check out the gogo's, it was early, around 8:30ish and ducking in and out of a few gogo's around soi diamond decided it was too soon to take any that worked close to my hotel. So figured I'd scope out x-zone down the other end.
About to walk upstairs when I got dragged into another bar to the right by a young girl(called sin city or something). Sat me down in front of the dance stage and within 2seconds got harrassed for a lady drink. But not only by that young girl but also by the mamasan and the waitress. Was just about to run out when I saw this slim dancer with nice legs and a fuckable ass.
She wasn't really all that good looking and later I would joke with her that she looked more like a ladyboy than the ladyboy that actually works at her bar. But she had a twinkle in her eye that I always look for and she could really move on the dance floor.
So I called her down and bought her a drink, Bum was her name, told her what I wanted to do to her and if she takes it up the servants entrance. She said yes with a smile and that she'll leave the price up to me in the morning. Paid bar of 600 and were out of there in less than 5min, bought some food on the way to the hotel so she doesn't run out of energy.
This girl was good in bed, lots of licking, sucking, fucking and rimming both ways, she would not leave my cock alone, fuck GFE this was more like a honey moon experience I kid you not. Jeezz, did I love doing her in the ass too, anal cowgirl aswell, I thought she broke my cock off at one stage and my balls sure did ache the next afternoon when she left. I got some sleep during the afternoon, woke up later that night and decided I needed her for another night. Showered, dressed, walked straight to her club where she was waiting, bar fined her and did another all night session.
She seemed eager to be with me and while we were fucking she was telling me how much she loves me. 'FUCK', too serious for me too soon, so thought this was going to be the last night with her no matter what.
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Very Funny Post
[QUOTE=Starchild2012]I'm from India and whatever is said about India is right to the bone...I have scanned the geography of India top to bottom and I have nothing positive to say about my own country...its bad... real bad...regarding historical treasures....its overrated, expensive, double pricing and corrupt. Not worth your hard earned money...if you have a choice skip it..
Regarding having fun in India...less said the better...India is culturally, socially backward 1000 years, it needs a kick in the butt to rise up.....you say getting laid...if you could get a girls number ...i would be your slave for ever...even Indians find it impossible to get laid in India.
Why do you think.. In spite of we being the least preferred clients for Thai bar girls and with all smelly and cheap charlie comments...millions end up in Thailand ? :)
Yeah, we have nothing going back home, anything is better than the shit we grow in our own backyard.....Recently in a survey...more than 80% of Indians between the age 20 to 25 said they would live India if given a choice :)
Guys, seriously, think, think, think and contemplate before you make a drastic move with your hard earned money for a visit to India..if you have money then a bad mistake can be corrected else you will be sorry.
I'm writing this as i get lots of PM that, member's from here want to visit India...i always tell you are happy to come but don't complain later when you would shag at night with your right or left hand :)
Guys, common, i think we are over this India thing for pleasure ride...there is no place like Pattaya on earth. Period.[/QUOTE]
Very few posts on WSG have had me lmao....this is one.
Over the past few days, a Brit friend has said the same of England, an American guy the same of America and a Canadian mirroring the same of Canada. It's a tough world out there for a squirrel trying to get a nut!
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Is there not an India thread?
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[QUOTE=Member #3285]So what did you end paying. And was she happy with it?
Thanks for the reports.[/QUOTE]Paid her 1600, she seemed pleased, second night i took her she told me she usually charges around the 3000mark but didn't mind cause she liked me. So i paid her the same 1600 the second night aswell. But i did treat her to dinner, breakfast and my cock!
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]Paid her 1600, she seemed pleased, second night i took her she told me she usually charges around the 3000mark but didn't mind cause she liked me. So i paid her the same 1600 the second night aswell. But i did treat her to dinner, breakfast and my cock![/QUOTE]You must be very handsome man, or she says same same to every customer lol.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff]
I tried a little massage place near Oasis gogo on Soi Buakaow for the first time. 200 for an hour, 1500 for boomboom. This turned into 500 for an hour and 1300 for boomboom after she went out to confer with the management. [/QUOTE]
So 1800 for massage and sex in a small oily massage joint?