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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]Guys, common, i think we are over this India thing for pleasure ride...there is no place like Pattaya on earth. Period.[/QUOTE]You said a mouthful brother. I mongered in Congress House in Mumbai a few years back. I had a headache from arguing with the pimps for trying to pull the bait and switch over and over and over again. Not to mention them begging for tips. I am in Angeles City right now, but I am counting the days until I arrive in Pattaya. Damn that Pattaya is something serious.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]So 1800 for massage and sex in a small oily massage joint?[/QUOTE]He could of gone to one of the soapy places for that.
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[QUOTE=Hotshanehot]Hi I have never see this place. Don't know if I would go in but would love to know more about how to find it "back woods".[/QUOTE]Sorry for the late reply, Hotshanehot. There is a map attached to a previous report of mine: [post]1015330[/post]
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]... I finally mongered at the infamous "back woods" joint at the end of Walking Street that Goyave told us about. Now I can say that I've done it and there is no need to return...[/QUOTE]I'm glad to see that not only several ISG members (you and a few others) have dared to venture in this area, but also have written very good reports about it in this forum since I submitted my own modest contribution! Kudos, guys!
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[QUOTE=Showdown]After reading all of the reports of the wooded area near the end of Walking Street I decided to check it out myself...
... All in all I did it for the experience-for 180 baht and a bottle of water.[/QUOTE]Great report, Showdown! Just for your and other members' information, for the older girls such as the one shown in your "hardoneyes.jpg" picture, the regular rate is 100 baht only for a BBBJ or CBJ in this area. It's the younger and more attractive ones who charge 200 baht for a blowjob there. Anyway, you've got quite a deal with the second provider who accepted your bottle of water as payment! Amazing Thailand, indeed!
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Just say no to India
I spend a few months every year in India for business. It is absolutely not worth it as a mongering destination. Full stop end of discussion!
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[QUOTE=Sammon]In a Land of cheap clean available women why would you even try this thing is beyond me...[/QUOTE]To each their own, and as stated earlier, this place is not for the faint of heart, but only for adventurous people going there at their own risks.
It has its advantages though: not only you can get (for instance) a very cheap (covered, if you wish) blowjob, but there usually are a couple of providers available even early in the morning (at that time of the day, there is not many alternatives). When I have not kept a girl for a LT session the previous night, I like to have a quick morning release there. That's mainly why I sometimes visit this area when I'm in Pattaya.
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Pattaya 20/09/10
Hi all
I have been going to Pattaya in Thailand for 17 years now my best holiday was my first holiday which was in 1994 but I think now it is getting very exspensive. Walking street go-go bars most are charging 85 baht for a so called half pint which I find exspensive. A roast beef or roast lamb dinner from 195 baht this could be due to the exchange rate. A few years ago I was getting between 65 to 69 baht to the english pound and thats about 30 baht to the american dollar so the exchange rat does play a part but as the thai baht exchange goes down the prices are going up. One off the smaller go-go bars was charging 600 baht bar fine. I don't know about soi 6 but I think that this must be the best place in Pattaya for cheap sex. You can still get a bottle
Bottle off bear in a beer bar some open 24 hours for 50 baht. So if your thinking about coming over here make sure you have plenty off cash as I think
Prices have doubled. As I have said before its the exchange rate thats crap.
Also at this time off year it is very quiet at least 50% off the girls have gone to Bangkok and the rest are about 5/6 out off 10 so nothing exciting except a few sexy go go girls which can cost you a fortune.
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If you can't take a little off-topic ...
Pull the broomstick off your ass :)
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Info Please
As a precautionary measure I would the name of a clinic in Pattaya in case I come down with a dose of something.
Any recommendations?
Second. I want to host a dinner for four friends/relatives that will be in Pattaya with me. A nice resteraunt with good food where we can also smoke some cigars.
Thank you.
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I think everyone will agree that the best medical facility in Pattaya is the Bangcock Hospital. It is also where you will be brougth if you can't express a different will.
Recently I accompanied a slightly hipocondriac friend as he had a cold and wanted a shot to cure it. Nowhere in the world I have ever seen a so meticously ordered and well kept facility, from the front desk to the ER. We went around midnight and he had to wait quite a long time but after all this guy didn't really had anything :)
After seeing the doctors, he goes to the pharmacy desk to get his prescribed drugs. They gave him all kinds of shit in copious quantities, painkillers, antibiotics, antistaminics, anti-inflammatory, you name it. I think that is a very bad medical practice but I would be digressing. The bill came to some 4,000 and some B, paid after the visit. I asked the young pharmacy associate if Thailand is doing something on the matter of medical marijhuana, to the only effect of placing him in deep embarassment.
Of course as soon we were outside, I told him to not even think taking any of that, and gulp down multiple shots of vodka instead and just pass the germs to the next girl.
Curiously. this is the same friend that fell with from scooter some months ago, he did go to a different clinic closer to Beach Rd, the treatments was also good for a reasonable price.
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I think everyone will agree that the best medical facility in Pattaya is the Bangcock Hospital. [/QUOTE]
I can't agree. I was prescribed wrong medication for an illness. I can vouch for Bumrungrad in bkk, however.
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[QUOTE=Henryv]As a precautionary measure I would the name of a clinic in Pattaya in case I come down with a dose of something.
Any recommendations?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
For run of the mill problems, I can recommend Dr Belen clinic,, off Sai 2 just up from the Bangkok Bank in Pattaya Klang. Lovely Phillipine Doctor.
You won't be charged 4000bt there for treatment for a cold!!!
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in call massage
I am heading to Pattaya in October and will be staying at the Nova Platinum Hotel. I would like to get an in call massage but I don't want the normal rub and tug. I want a full 5 star 2 hour massage then with the HJ at the end. I have heard that this place has a spa but after looking at the internet it doesn't, can any conform this? Also I would like to stop by a hair salon and get a hair but plus get my pubic hair trimmer shorter too, any ideas on a place?
Thanks for the help!
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I think everyone will agree that the best medical facility in Pattaya is the Bangcock Hospital.[/QUOTE] (did he say Bangcock?)
Uh....no......many scandals.....including a horror show ending in the death of a local farang school teacher injured on a motorsai v. cement truck....real bad, over priced place....with very little investigation and responsibility on things gone very, very bad (i.e. your death and explanation of what happened to family). (The man was transported to Sattahip on a pick up truck bleeding to death (they couldn't find his insurance coverage card). Things are forgotten quickly in Land of Smiles.
Also see this;
[url]http://www.escapefromamerica.com/2010/04/healthcare-in-thailand/[/url]
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Holiday blitz pt4
Anyway, another night in Pattaya and I was determined to find someone I'm really looking for. So I was combing the gogo's for that special someone when walking past hooty's in walking street I saw her. Standing outside the club wearing a body hugging grey dress, hostess dress.
She was excactely what I've been looking for, short, about 5'tall or under, dark skin, pettite but shapely figure and walked great which is always a turn on for me. Her name was Geegi and as mentioned works as a hostess at the club. I liked her as soon as I saw her, bought her a drink, chatted alittle asked her how much bar fine and for herself. 600 for bar and 2000lt for her, I can live with that I thought and we were away in a flash.
So this is where it begins, she asks me what I have planned to which I replied we'll quickly grab some kebabs from my favourite street vendor, acouple of drinks from 7/11, head up to my room and fuck!. She says sounds like a good idea but., its too early yet and suggests we maybe have acouple of drinks at a beerbar. Anything that makes you happy I said and with that she go's on to say her family has just opened a beerbar at one of the large complex's at the end of walking street and we should go there for some drinks. I should of seen this coming I said to myself but I figured acouple of drinks won't hurt.
Well, sitting there with drink in hand and her yip yaking to the old lady behind the bar I was getting bored also getting harrassed every 20 minutes for tips from the thai boxes when finishing their rounds in the ring. I really didn't mind this cause they were actually good fighters and putting on a good show, but what really got up my nose was when a few guys were entering the complex my girl for the night was welcoming them in and trying to entice them to sit at the bar we're at. I thought to myself, hang on a second *****, I paid your barfine and taken you out, your mine for the night. If you want your family's friend bar to succeed maybe he should get some young attractive girls behind the counter and not some old wrinkly 50 yearold pouring drinks. So with that thought, I paid bin and told her we leave now, she asked 'now', I just nodded my head, grabbed her hand and left without leaving a tip which they were expecting.
Back to the room and we showered and affectionately went to bed where we caressed and kissed to get me going. I went down and gave her a thorough tongue lashing to which she came, as I came up from between her legs she was looking at me with satisfaction and disbelieve, told me 'thankyou' with a soft voice then turned around, curled up and went to sleep. 'What the fuck' was my first reaction, but then I realised that the poor darling might need some rest after the entre, so decided to let her sleep alittle, turned on the tv and waited my turn.
4 fucking hours later and she's still sleeping, I was upset and I was going to wake her by sticking my cock up her ass when I thought up a better idea, I'll wait until around 5ish in the morning before I kick her out. Thats excactly what I did and as I ushered her out the door she was looking at me and expecting something, such as money, which I just closed the door behind her. As far as I was concerned the money she was expecting was spent at her family's freind's bar on drinks, while I only bought her three beers and two cokes for myself but thats how I felt, hopefully the next night will turn out better I hoped.
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[QUOTE=Triple Input]I am heading to Pattaya in October and will be staying at the Nova Platinum Hotel. I would like to get an in call massage but I don't want the normal rub and tug. I want a full 5 star 2 hour massage then with the HJ at the end. I have heard that this place has a spa but after looking at the internet it doesn't, can any conform this? Also I would like to stop by a hair salon and get a hair but plus get my pubic hair trimmer shorter too, any ideas on a place?
Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]
NP has in-room massage service and you can top it off with more than just a HJ but it you have to negotiate with the girl for that special treatment. Eden’s Massage has some qualified (outcall) masseuses but they won't offer kind of special service and doubtful you would want any such service from them too.
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Last day:
OK. Now back home. Bit jetlagged, but up and running. Back to reality. Glad for it too. Too much reality a bad thing, as is too much fantasy. Need a bit of both to keep sane. This is my final report on the last two days of Pattaya. My goal for these last days of my 5 week break was three gals a day. The day before I did only two, so had bit of catching up to do.
After my usual 3 eggs and coffee breakfast, decided to find a gal. Took half a vit C tablet two days ago, so decided to take the second half, and went off. Now, for Beach Road, I am a virgin. Never done a BR gal. However, it was about 10:30 and to keep this pace I needed action immediately. Saw this one gal. Figure 32 – 35, cute, and looked experienced. She near the Subway sandwich area. Asked her where a short time hotel was, and she took me to a place across the way to 2nd Road, just north of Kiss Me restaurant. It was hidden, and I never knew this place existed. Cost 120 baht, and she graciously paid 20 baht for me.
Now, I’ve been doing Pattaya since about 1997 or 1998. Had well over a thousand different girls. This gal was easily in the top one percent. Without asking, an incredible rim job, perhaps the best I’ve ever had; let’s see … rusty trombone, and lots of anal – she guided my pecker right to her ass. She had a nice large bubble butt too. Very sexy. In the end she asked me if I Italian, because in her words “Italian men always large and like ass boom boom”. Gee, I never knew that myself – like to learn something new every day, eh. Well, as far as I know, am not Italian, but do love pizza and spaghetti. She told me that she worked massage and proceeded to massage all ten … urrrr eleven of my fingers, and all four … five of my limbs. It my regret that I did not take her phone or picture. She was truly outstanding, and far and away the best sex I’ve had on this trip -- and many others. Paid her 600 baht, and she was thrilled.
About 7:PM was walking around pump station. Gal who worked at some bar near there practically dragged me into the place. She told me that she did work at one of those pump station type bars (forgot the name, but not Pump Station, and she remembered blowing me. Gee, how romantic. She nearly dragged me up stairs, and told me 1000 baht. I never understood the point of those bars near that area. Apparently they are attached to short time rooms. She told me no customers at all, and she did not have sex for two months. Well, who knows if she had no sex in two months or two minutes, but she was an absolute demon in the sack; a great time. Place had a shower. Way out she wanted me to pay 300 extra for bar fine “because you take long time.” I told her, she said 1000 baht, and she relented. All good.
I walked out of there at 8:30 in a bit of a daze, and a massage gal right next door to that bar offered me massage for 200 and hand job for 500. I said not 20 minutes ago just blew a load, and no way a hand job would be possible. She said then OK, 200 baht for massage only, and if she gets me off cost is 700 baht. OK. How could I refuse that. We went upstairs. It was a sliding door, and room had a massage table and a shower. There was a sign in the room which read “No Prostitution”; damn wish I took a picture of that sign. My bad. She gave a nice massage on my back and then turned me over. She quickly woke up Little Popper and went to town. She offered a BJ and / or FS for 1000 in total (include massage). I thanked her but refused her kind offer.
After the massage w/ happy was completely worn out. Could hardly walk. Went to one of my favorite gogos. To my surprise, my favorite gal in all Pattaya still there. She in her 30s, face and body about a 7, never banged her. Just love her laid back attitude on life. We relaxed and yes I bought her an LD. Yea, OK. [b]I am a sucker[/b]. However to be clear, I see the purpose of the Church of [b]LDs and BFs are for Suckers, Tourists, and Noobs[/b] as allowing for [b]more freedom, and not less[/b]. I myself in last five weeks bought that one LD, no BFs. Last trip of five weeks in Pattaya bought no LDs or BFs. Around last Christmas I got one gal an LD and then BFed her. Suspect last summer made have bought a few LDs and a BF. Do not recall. Will go into greater details of this Phil when I write up the [b]Popper Hotel Report[/b]. Anyway, after I bought her the LD, we spend about two hours together, chitchat, and the rest. I really do like this gal, and feel bad for her. In the end I got her the one LD, cash 400 baht, and all she had to do was relax and be her beautiful self.
Friend of mine picked me up at the gogo, and we drove to Mexican restaurant. It was 11:30 PM and only Blue Parrot was open. We relaxed, and great Mexican. Later on that evening hit Marine, and there was a stunningly beautiful gal there. We talked a bit, and only thing I could say is that she had an ass I wanted to stick my tongue up. I mean it looked [b]that sexy[/b]. Asked how much and she said 1000 for LT. I agreed, and then said “or 500 for ST.” She paused, thought a bit and then said “no, meant 1000 for ST.” I joked with her about it, offered her 700 which she refused, and kissed her on the cheek, told her that I loved her, and parted. Then walked a bit around found another gal. She worked at some barbeer. She wanted me to BF her, and I refused. Offered her 600, and she said OK, and that I should wait around the corner from her bar for 5 minutes so she could get released. She looked good and I agreed. While waiting, of course tried to find other gals, but nothing had my interest. After 10 minutes, I decided to leave. Walking to Pattaya Beer Gardens, found this one gal along the way. She was small. Nice breasts. Bit plump. 500, OK, let’s go.
When she got to my hotel, she took off clothes. She had way more belly fat than I thought. She looked pregnant, and her stomach had major child birth scars. That, and those tits just sagging there; a complete turn off. Just uninterested. After a few efforts, nothing came up, and I just gave her 500 baht, thanked her, and told her to leave. After three times that day, I really needed something more stimulating to go a fourth round. Complete bust. Oh well, live and learn. Perhaps since this my last evening there should have taken that original gal who wanted 1000 baht. Too late.
Was going to sleep when decided to text one of my favorite gals. At 26 years she has a great bod and great in the sack. She immediately offered LT. Agreed. Made for the perfect sleep medication, cause after I banged her, out like a light. The Vit C must have still been active, because about 11:30 AM Little Popper was up yet again, and she gave her usual stellar performance. Told her I’d miss her forever and gave her 1000 baht, and well after noon she left. She did not want her picture taken, but I snapped it as she was leaving (see pic 1).
This was the last day. Figured I’d end it with a bang: A 3-some. Needed two girls. First I had to grab breakfast (three eggs and coffee) and prep a cab. Cab to airport was 1000 baht and included tolls. Agreed to be at my hotel at 6:PM. Texted a gal who a sexual dynamo in the sack. She is mid-20s and had a kid (her stomach bit of a mess). Told her to meet me with her friend at my hotel at 3:30. Considering all the gals I had that day, did not know if I could handle a 3-some, but figured I’d try. She, ding-dong, arrived at 4:00 and I nearly left to find two gals from BR. However, she arrived with another gal who was really sexy. Both went to my room, but her friend did not want the 3-some with her friend. She thought that I had a friend for her to have as separate, rather than a straight 3-some. She wanted to wait in the lobby and she would come up after. Ummmm, OK. My gal was just so into it. From my experience, you all can keep your 3000 baht ST go-go gals with their dead fish attitudes. I’ll take bit cheaper gals, not as good looking, but stellar performances. This gal is one of my steadies (see pic2) has a kid, but a great lay. Anyway, she left my room at 5:10 and promised me her cute friend. Got a call. Apparently her friend was not interested in cumming up. Who knows the bla bla bla. Just as well, since I had bit of final packing to do, and did not think I could bang again anyway. As is, was completely dry on cum.
For this trip, all to report. Now that back in the Real World, and will begin writing the [b]Popper Hotel Report[/b]. Have a lot of information to go through. Could be over a hundred hotels in this list, and will need time to organize it all. Will also write a lengthy intro will I suspect will include much of my Phil on the church of [b]BFs and LDs are for Noobs, Suckers, and Tourists[/b] and other thoughts / experiences.
… damn I had a terrible time in Pattaya.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
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[QUOTE=Jerboa]He could of gone to one of the soapy places for that.[/QUOTE]
Well, I figured it's about the same as Snow White etc in Bangkok, so OK .. but it sounds like I've been had ..
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Right on, thanks for the help!
[QUOTE=Run Mann]NP has in-room massage service and you can top it off with more than just a HJ but it you have to negotiate with the girl for that special treatment. Eden’s Massage has some qualified (outcall) masseuses but they won't offer kind of special service and doubtful you would want any such service from them too.[/QUOTE]
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Still Waiting
Hey Popper,
I have read all of your reports since day one, They were extremely entertaining. I'm still waiting for you hotel report. I'll be arriving in Pattaya on September 29. And I'm really looking forward in reading your report. Base on your report I will select the best hotel for my Holiday.
Thank You
[quote]For this trip, all to report. Now that back in the Real World, and will begin writing the [b]Popper Hotel Report[/b]. Have a lot of information to go through. Could be over a hundred hotels in this list, and will need time to organize it all. Will also write a lengthy intro will I suspect will include much of my Phil on the church of [b]BFs and LDs are for Noobs, Suckers, and Tourists[/b] and other thoughts / experiences.
Damn I had a terrible time in Pattaya.
-Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.[/QUOTE]
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Apologies for talking BS about hospitals ...
Your comments make sense also looking at ridiculous amount of drugs prescribed to my friend.
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[QUOTE=Henryv]As a precautionary measure I would the name of a clinic in Pattaya in case I come down with a dose of something.
Any recommendations?
Thank you.[/QUOTE]I recommend Pattaya Memorial Hospital (in walking reach of Soi 7).
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Solid Soapy Houses
Hey guys, on the fast track again. Hitting Thailand in two weeks. Going to be in the Pattaya area. I will be doing the walking street thing, apprehensive about the lady boy thing, but I have heard that the soapy parlors / massage parlors only staff girls. Any good solid recommendations?
My preffered style is the full shower thing with massage, full service, optional take out, with good spa style facilities. Anything come to mind-?
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My little contribution to this thread
Having a short one week holiday in Pattaya and after 3 days I feel like to give my humble contribution to the general knowledge of this thread.
I'm staying in Soi 4, Bella Villa Prima Hotel. The hotel is okish, price acceptable, and extremely relaxed about guest policy. I have several girls in my room at different time of the day and of the night and no problems so far.
First day I was dragged in a bar in 2nd road near the hotel (between soi 4 and soi 5) and after a drink I left with the girl who was serving me. Bar fee 350 Bh, 500 Bh for the girl s/t. Satisfied? Yes. Would repeat? Nope.
2nd day I went to Beach Road. Quality of the girls is varied. Some very ugly, some acceptable, a few gems. Found a tiny young girl, I thought she was 18 but she told me 26, I believe her. First we went for a drink in a bar in soi 6 she knew. Paid her 2 beers, one for mamasan and a coke for me. Then we went to my hotel for an extremely satisfying section. After some sleep tried for a second one, but no way I could! We went out for having dinner in a place she knew (again!) and again she asked me to buy a drink for the restaurant mamasan!
After dinner she wanted to stay with me all night but I prefer to sleep alone and paid her and left.
500 Bh for drinks
500 Bh for dinner
1000 Bh for her
Total 2000 Bh for almost a full day service with a very pretty girl.
Satisfied: yes
Would repeat? Maybe not
3rd day I went to Soi 6 and and met 2 beautiful eyes...
No English spoken but nice smile and good attitude.
300 Bh Bar fee
200 Bh Drinks
500 Bh for her s/t
Total 1000 Bh
Satisfied: yes
Would repeat: maybe
Tonight I want to try again my luck in Beach Road, if not I will go back to Soi 6 and bar fee a cute one.
My advises:
dont be in a rush when you chose a girl in Pattaya. The offer vastly exceeds the demand! You will always find someone you fancy.
walking street has the best girl but the prices are double than in other places. Second best is soi 6 with acceptable prices. Beach road is the cheapest but you must do some research as the quality varies a lot.
Be careful about other bars. The prices are the same as in soi 6 but the quality is generally low. With the occasional exception.
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Appreciate. But no way [b]Popper Hotel Report [/b]will be completed by then. Why would you do Pattaya anyway? As you can tell from my posts, just hated the place. Horrible place. Not recommended at all.
Oops ...
"The world would be a better place with more wh0re houses and less churches."
Popper
[QUOTE=Majestic1967]Hey Popper,
I have read all of your reports since day one, They were extremely entertaining. I'm still waiting for you hotel report. I'll be arriving in Pattaya on September 29. And I'm really looking forward in reading your report. Base on your report I will select the best hotel for my Holiday.
Thank You[/QUOTE]
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Popper
[QUOTE=Popper1]Appreciate. But no way [b]Popper Hotel Report [/b]will be completed by then. Why would you do Pattaya anyway? As you can tell from my posts, just hated the place. Horrible place. Not recommended at all.
Oops ...
"The world would be a better place with more wh0re houses and less churches."
--Popper[/QUOTE]Popper,
Even I am a huge fan off yours, after reading those reports. Regarding popper hotel reports you can at least start with the best hotels first and latter on adding the worst and acceptable hotels. So that people traveling now can have a pleasure of your facilitation of your long experience.
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Great report. Only needed to add "hooty's avoid Geegi" in my palm phone.
[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]178. 162. 182. 149 Anyway, another night in Pattaya and I was determined to find someone I'm really looking for. So I was combing the gogo's for that special someone when walking past hooty's in walking street I saw her. Standing outside the club wearing a body hugging grey dress, hostess dress.
She was excactely what I've been looking for, short, about 5'tall or under, dark skin, pettite but shapely figure and walked great which is always a turn on for me. Her name was Geegi and as mentioned works as a hostess at the club. I liked her as soon as I saw her, bought her a drink, chatted alittle asked her how much bar fine and for herself. 600 for bar and 2000lt for her, I can live with that I thought and we were away in a flash.
So this is where it begins, she asks me what I have planned to which I replied we'll quickly grab some kebabs from my favourite street vendor, acouple of drinks from 7/11, head up to my room and fuck!. She says sounds like a good idea but., its too early yet and suggests we maybe have acouple of drinks at a beerbar. Anything that makes you happy I said and with that she go's on to say her family has just opened a beerbar at one of the large complex's at the end of walking street and we should go there for some drinks. I should of seen this coming I said to myself but I figured acouple of drinks won't hurt.
Well, sitting there with drink in hand and her yip yaking to the old lady behind the bar I was getting bored also getting harrassed every 20 minutes for tips from the thai boxes when finishing their rounds in the ring. I really didn't mind this cause they were actually good fighters and putting on a good show, but what really got up my nose was when a few guys were entering the complex my girl for the night was welcoming them in and trying to entice them to sit at the bar we're at. I thought to myself, hang on a second *****, I paid your barfine and taken you out, your mine for the night. If you want your family's friend bar to succeed maybe he should get some young attractive girls behind the counter and not some old wrinkly 50 yearold pouring drinks. So with that thought, I paid bin and told her we leave now, she asked 'now', I just nodded my head, grabbed her hand and left without leaving a tip which they were expecting.
Back to the room and we showered and affectionately went to bed where we caressed and kissed to get me going. I went down and gave her a thorough tongue lashing to which she came, as I came up from between her legs she was looking at me with satisfaction and disbelieve, told me 'thankyou' with a soft voice then turned around, curled up and went to sleep. 'What the fuck' was my first reaction, but then I realised that the poor darling might need some rest after the entre, so decided to let her sleep alittle, turned on the tv and waited my turn.
4 fucking hours later and she's still sleeping, I was upset and I was going to wake her by sticking my cock up her ass when I thought up a better idea, I'll wait until around 5ish in the morning before I kick her out. Thats excactly what I did and as I ushered her out the door she was looking at me and expecting something, such as money, which I just closed the door behind her. As far as I was concerned the money she was expecting was spent at her family's freind's bar on drinks, while I only bought her three beers and two cokes for myself but thats how I felt, hopefully the next night will turn out better I hoped.[/QUOTE]
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Is it possible to buy HIV Self-Test in Pharmacy in Pattaya?
Hello,
Do you know any pharmacy in Pattaya or Bangkok which sells HIV Self-Tests?
Up to now I did not find any in Thailand.
In Malaysia there are several, as you can see on the following link:
[url]http://www.hivtest.com.my/pharmacies.php[/url]
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[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]178. 162. 182. 149 Anyway, another night in Pattaya and I was determined to find someone I'm really looking for. So I was combing the gogo's for that special someone when walking past hooty's in walking street I saw her. Standing outside the club wearing a body hugging grey dress, hostess dress.
She was excactely what I've been looking for, short, about 5'tall or under, dark skin, pettite but shapely figure and walked great which is always a turn on for me. Her name was Geegi and as mentioned works as a hostess at the club. I liked her as soon as I saw her, bought her a drink, chatted alittle asked her how much bar fine and for herself. 600 for bar and 2000lt for her, I can live with that I thought and we were away in a flash.
So this is where it begins, she asks me what I have planned to which I replied we'll quickly grab some kebabs from my favourite street vendor, acouple of drinks from 7/11, head up to my room and fuck!. She says sounds like a good idea but., its too early yet and suggests we maybe have acouple of drinks at a beerbar. Anything that makes you happy I said and with that she go's on to say her family has just opened a beerbar at one of the large complex's at the end of walking street and we should go there for some drinks. I should of seen this coming I said to myself but I figured acouple of drinks won't hurt.
Well, sitting there with drink in hand and her yip yaking to the old lady behind the bar I was getting bored also getting harrassed every 20 minutes for tips from the thai boxes when finishing their rounds in the ring. I really didn't mind this cause they were actually good fighters and putting on a good show, but what really got up my nose was when a few guys were entering the complex my girl for the night was welcoming them in and trying to entice them to sit at the bar we're at. I thought to myself, hang on a second *****, I paid your barfine and taken you out, your mine for the night. If you want your family's friend bar to succeed maybe he should get some young attractive girls behind the counter and not some old wrinkly 50 yearold pouring drinks. So with that thought, I paid bin and told her we leave now, she asked 'now', I just nodded my head, grabbed her hand and left without leaving a tip which they were expecting.
Back to the room and we showered and affectionately went to bed where we caressed and kissed to get me going. I went down and gave her a thorough tongue lashing to which she came, as I came up from between her legs she was looking at me with satisfaction and disbelieve, told me 'thankyou' with a soft voice then turned around, curled up and went to sleep. 'What the fuck' was my first reaction, but then I realised that the poor darling might need some rest after the entre, so decided to let her sleep alittle, turned on the tv and waited my turn.
4 fucking hours later and she's still sleeping, I was upset and I was going to wake her by sticking my cock up her ass when I thought up a better idea, I'll wait until around 5ish in the morning before I kick her out. Thats excactly what I did and as I ushered her out the door she was looking at me and expecting something, such as money, which I just closed the door behind her. As far as I was concerned the money she was expecting was spent at her family's freind's bar on drinks, while I only bought her three beers and two cokes for myself but thats how I felt, hopefully the next night will turn out better I hoped.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you got used...lol. But it's all good.
It's Pattaya!
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[QUOTE=Leeroy182]Hey guys, on the fast track again. Hitting Thailand in two weeks. Going to be in the Pattaya area. I will be doing the walking street thing, apprehensive about the lady boy thing, but I have heard that the soapy parlors / massage parlors only staff girls. Any good solid recommendations?
My preffered style is the full shower thing with massage, full service, optional take out, with good spa style facilities. Anything come to mind-?[/QUOTE]Yeah, Bangkok!
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holiday blitz pt5
Woke up really late this evening from a late afternoon nap as the days touristy adventures are catching up to me. It was about 11ish and didn't really want to go all that too far from my hotel tonight as wanted an early night and be able to sleep alone, so stayed around the soi diamond area. By the time I showered, dressed and ventured outside figured it might be alittle late to find a goddess. So was prepared to take second best, even third.
Went into shark and some of the surrounding clubs and was amazed by some of the young hotties that were still available, got to chat to a few but all were not adventurous and declined my perverted desire's. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm an assman and there's no point me taking a good looking girl and not being able to satisfy my hunger, especially if she got a young, tight, firm, curvacious ass.
Decided to walk into windmill and see what all the fuss is about in this joint, girls there at that time(around 1ish) weren't all that good to look at even the ones on stage that were licking each other out. Except one of them had a real skanky way about her and thought to myself, why not.
So the mamasan called her over for me and as soon as she approached me she bent over, spread her ass cheeks open and asked if I wanted to fuck her in the ass. As I said she wasn't my type, not all that good looking, body not bad but seen better, but I'm a real fussy bastard. But I felt like having a well used skanky wh0re tonight and I think she was up to the challenge. Plus she was the only one on stage making all the noise and getting everyones attenetion, including mine. Bought her a drink while she was fondling me, saying that she new I was looking for a piece of ass as soon as she saw me walk in. I must of forgotten to wash it off my face!. Can't remember her name but apparently she's well liked in the bar, does most of the shows and has worked there for a number of years.
So with that I paid bar which they gave me a discount, why?, I have no idea and took her st. Took her upstairs to my room and she proved to me just how dirty she is and after acouple of hours of perverted fun finished with cim. I really had to commend this girl cause I wasn't turned on by her but provided me with what I needed and she tried her hardest to keep me hard the whole time.
She left with a smile and I just laid back in bed, turned on the tv and happily watched the repeats on the scifi channel before falling asleep.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2](did he say Bangcock?)
Uh....no......many scandals.....including a horror show ending in the death of a local farang school teacher injured on a motorsai v. cement truck....real bad, over priced place....with very little investigation and responsibility on things gone very, very bad (i.e. your death and explanation of what happened to family). (The man was transported to Sattahip on a pick up truck bleeding to death (they couldn't find his insurance coverage card). Things are forgotten quickly in Land of Smiles.
Also see this;
[url]http://www.escapefromamerica.com/2010/04/healthcare-in-thailand/[/url][/QUOTE]
Just a clariication,
I believe this happen over 2 years ago? This American teaching in Thailand was riding his motorbike and was run down on Beach Road by a truck. The truck and driver just continued and another bystander Farang came to help. He was badly injuried and unconsious and taken to Bangkok/Pattaya hospital but wasn't carrying any I.D. the only thing he had was his cell phone. Now from here it is all speculation and comes from the witness and his family who came to Pattaya to ask for help in this matter? BHP, said they stablized him and since he needed more blood and the BPH didn't have enough they decided to put him in one of those ambulance pickup trucks and take him to Chon Buri county hospital around 30 minutes away he died on the way. Believe what you may? but BPH was accused because they couldn't verify whether he had insurance they shipped him off. The family and those close who did the investigation said the story smelled?
As for the truck and driver, they were track down and a B.S. story was made by the company and driver! The company offer something like 100,000 baht as compensation and nothing was ever said about the driver as to what he had done?
I have been using BHP, for the last 10 years before they build all the extra building and before they received their International certification. This is my observation and first hand experience. If you are using the hospital for small emergencies and minor treatment the place is great and cheap only compare to Western prices. But as recently written by a Thai writer in the Bangkok Post who criticize the system anything more you better get a second opinion! The article reference by LB#2 is 100% correct.
BHP, in general is all show and no go when it comes to major illnesses. They lack the specialise and the hospital are mostly staff with Doctor of Internal Medicine. If you are a Farang and don't have insurance you pay now and more and of course they have setup a system to get you the proper paperwork so you can bill your Insurance back home later. If you have Thai insurance like Buppa, Thai, LMG, AIA, their eyes light up now they will charge the insurance more than if you pay cash and if you have a child that comes into with a fever? look out their response is " we need to keep them overnight for observation they might have " Dengue Fever " Give them a nice room, plenty of beautiful nurses and attention keep them for 3 days and the hospital makes 30,000 to 40,000 off the Insurance company! Saying it is a scam is being nice but someone has to pay for all the improvement?
All those fake discounts of Physical examinations of 50% off are scams. How can you prove it unless you live here and know the prices. Most tourist see the price and consider it still cheap! But all they have done is raise the price and cut it down and you're getting the same price. To be generous I will say not always but most of the time! With all those unnecessary test they bound to find something so get a second opinion! Stories of test results from BPH saying Farang patients need bypass heart surgery and return home to get a second opinion have been told in some cases the CT scan isn't even theirs.
True story, my brother also has been using this hospital for over 10 years, always pays cash never miss paying! His daughter needed a small operation 100,000 baht, as they were rolling her in, the Adminitration stopped the cart and told my brother " you need to pay 50% first " I could see the argue in my brothers face!
In the end, you want your teeth clean and pay a little bit more, use the emergency ward for a cut or accident, need some viagra knock yourself out but don't let all the fancy stuff like you think this is the best medical system in the world? It isn't? get yourself a second opinion when someone tells you they want to cut you open? But if I was dying, I certainly would like to get a room with those bubble ass nurses giving me a sponge bath! But since I'm not I'm heading down Soi 6, tonight for a prostate checkup!
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Just a clariication,
I believe this happen over 2 years ago? This American teaching in Thailand was riding his motorbike and was run down on Beach Road by a truck. The truck and driver just continued and another bystander Farang came to help. He was badly injuried and unconsious and taken to Bangkok/Pattaya hospital but wasn't carrying any I.D. the only thing he had was his cell phone. Now from here it is all speculation and comes from the witness and his family who came to Pattaya to ask for help in this matter? BHP, said they stablized him and since he needed more blood and the BPH didn't have enough they decided to put him in one of those ambulance pickup trucks and take him to Chon Buri county hospital around 30 minutes away he died on the way. Believe what you may? but BPH was accused because they couldn't verify whether he had insurance they shipped him off. The family and those close who did the investigation said the story smelled?
As for the truck and driver, they were track down and a B.S. story was made by the company and driver! The company offer something like 100,000 baht as compensation and nothing was ever said about the driver as to what he had done?
I have been using BHP, for the last 10 years before they build all the extra building and before they received their International certification. This is my observation and first hand experience. If you are using the hospital for small emergencies and minor treatment the place is great and cheap only compare to Western prices. But as recently written by a Thai writer in the Bangkok Post who criticize the system anything more you better get a second opinion! The article reference by LB#2 is 100% correct.
BHP, in general is all show and no go when it comes to major illnesses. They lack the specialise and the hospital are mostly staff with Doctor of Internal Medicine. If you are a Farang and don't have insurance you pay now and more and of course they have setup a system to get you the proper paperwork so you can bill your Insurance back home later. If you have Thai insurance like Buppa, Thai, LMG, AIA, their eyes light up now they will charge the insurance more than if you pay cash and if you have a child that comes into with a fever? look out their response is " we need to keep them overnight for observation they might have " Dengue Fever " Give them a nice room, plenty of beautiful nurses and attention keep them for 3 days and the hospital makes 30,000 to 40,000 off the Insurance company! Saying it is a scam is being nice but someone has to pay for all the improvement?
All those fake discounts of Physical examinations of 50% off are scams. How can you prove it unless you live here and know the prices. Most tourist see the price and consider it still cheap! But all they have done is raise the price and cut it down and you're getting the same price. To be generous I will say not always but most of the time! With all those unnecessary test they bound to find something so get a second opinion! Stories of test results from BPH saying Farang patients need bypass heart surgery and return home to get a second opinion have been told in some cases the CT scan isn't even theirs.
True story, my brother also has been using this hospital for over 10 years, always pays cash never miss paying! His daughter needed a small operation 100,000 baht, as they were rolling her in, the Adminitration stopped the cart and told my brother " you need to pay 50% first " I could see the argue in my brothers face!
In the end, you want your teeth clean and pay a little bit more, use the emergency ward for a cut or accident, need some viagra knock yourself out but don't let all the fancy stuff like you think this is the best medical system in the world? It isn't? get yourself a second opinion when someone tells you they want to cut you open? But if I was dying, I certainly would like to get a room with those bubble ass nurses giving me a sponge bath! But since I'm not I'm heading down Soi 6, tonight for a prostate checkup!
LBM[/QUOTE]
I could not agree more with LBM
If you look at the Bangkok Group balance sheet you will see they have around 15 or more hospitals, only Pattaya is making massive profit.
My daughter went there with a fever, They kept her in overnight for suspected swine flu. In the morning she was discharged - no swine flu, but 17000bt lighter!
SCAM!
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]Just a clariication,
I believe this happen over 2 years ago? This American teaching in Thailand was riding his motorbike and was run down on Beach Road by a truck. The truck and driver just continued and another bystander Farang came to help. He was badly injuried and unconsious and taken to Bangkok/Pattaya hospital but wasn't carrying any I.D. the only thing he had was his cell phone. Now from here it is all speculation and comes from the witness and his family who came to Pattaya to ask for help in this matter? BHP, said they stablized him and since he needed more blood and the BPH didn't have enough they decided to put him in one of those ambulance pickup trucks and take him to Chon Buri county hospital around 30 minutes away he died on the way. Believe what you may? but BPH was accused because they couldn't verify whether he had insurance they shipped him off. The family and those close who did the investigation said the story smelled?
As for the truck and driver, they were track down and a B.S. story was made by the company and driver! The company offer something like 100,000 baht as compensation and nothing was ever said about the driver as to what he had done?
I have been using BHP, for the last 10 years before they build all the extra building and before they received their International certification. This is my observation and first hand experience. If you are using the hospital for small emergencies and minor treatment the place is great and cheap only compare to Western prices. But as recently written by a Thai writer in the Bangkok Post who criticize the system anything more you better get a second opinion! The article reference by LB#2 is 100% correct.
BHP, in general is all show and no go when it comes to major illnesses. They lack the specialise and the hospital are mostly staff with Doctor of Internal Medicine. If you are a Farang and don't have insurance you pay now and more and of course they have setup a system to get you the proper paperwork so you can bill your Insurance back home later. If you have Thai insurance like Buppa, Thai, LMG, AIA, their eyes light up now they will charge the insurance more than if you pay cash and if you have a child that comes into with a fever? look out their response is " we need to keep them overnight for observation they might have " Dengue Fever " Give them a nice room, plenty of beautiful nurses and attention keep them for 3 days and the hospital makes 30,000 to 40,000 off the Insurance company! Saying it is a scam is being nice but someone has to pay for all the improvement?
All those fake discounts of Physical examinations of 50% off are scams. How can you prove it unless you live here and know the prices. Most tourist see the price and consider it still cheap! But all they have done is raise the price and cut it down and you're getting the same price. To be generous I will say not always but most of the time! With all those unnecessary test they bound to find something so get a second opinion! Stories of test results from BPH saying Farang patients need bypass heart surgery and return home to get a second opinion have been told in some cases the CT scan isn't even theirs.
True story, my brother also has been using this hospital for over 10 years, always pays cash never miss paying! His daughter needed a small operation 100,000 baht, as they were rolling her in, the Adminitration stopped the cart and told my brother " you need to pay 50% first " I could see the argue in my brothers face!
In the end, you want your teeth clean and pay a little bit more, use the emergency ward for a cut or accident, need some viagra knock yourself out but don't let all the fancy stuff like you think this is the best medical system in the world? It isn't? get yourself a second opinion when someone tells you they want to cut you open? But if I was dying, I certainly would like to get a room with those bubble ass nurses giving me a sponge bath! But since I'm not I'm heading down Soi 6, tonight for a prostate checkup!
LBM[/QUOTE]
The details you give are basically correct, based on my remembrance of the incident. Actually the guy who runs Thai Tattoo Studio (Pattaya South Road)...I think his name is Simon, tried to help the teacher when he was down on the ground and seriously injured.....I think the truck took off. The teacher worked at a school teaching Thai students and the parents really loved the guy.......the hospital would have been paid. They were accused loudly of what they had done......after a lot of back pedaling, they came up with the story of the extra blood that was needed. The story they came up with makes no sense at all.....transport a critically ill patient instead of using a courier to obtain the blood immediately?......very weak story at least....a blatant lie to most. The hospital they were transporting to is supported by the government. Doctors were accused.....blah, blah, blah....a little "Thai style"......and nothing really resulted.
I myself had a minor injury when I was working on a project near Pattaya. I was transported to this place. In my particular case, the injury was minor.....but the doctor asked me what I wanted him to do!! I told him to clean and close the wound, apply an antiseptic/antibiotic and release me....he confirmed with his assistant and did just this. I healed up.....so no further to report. But......if you are not so lucky to heal up....maybe you end up with a major problem.
I would highly rec. that anyone in serious trouble in Pattaya.....try to make it to BKK ([url]http://www.samitivejhospitals.com/contactus.aspx?lid=en[/url]). That is one that is good....as is Bumrungrad (but more expensive).
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i arrived from the philippines the day before yesterday, which by the way doesn't hold a candle to pattaya. i went to the disco that night and picked up a tall, beautiful, young thing. 20 years old. she looked exactly like kimora lee and i verified it later by pulling up photos on the internet while in the presence of a thai lady friend so she could judge for me while the girl was there. she thought it was really her.
while in the disco i made it known from the start that she would be going with me. i left her in the on-deck circle while i butterflied around. she was really unsure that i would take her because of my butterflying ways so she told her friend to ask me. i verified through the friend that she was definitely mine for the night.
when we got to the room she immediately went down on me after we got into the bed. then she started to put on the shy role that thai girls are known for. but that was okay. i broke out some toys and drove the shyness out of her. i can't stop thinking about those long legs wrapped around my waist. we left the room about 1pm the next day and she came with me to run errands. then we had lunch with my wingmen. one wingman still had his catch from the previous night so we all went to shoot pool on soi diana.
the time was about 4p.m. i never even bother discussing prices anymore. i only deal with fl so i just use the up-to-me pricing scheme. that is 1000 baht lt or 500 baht st, unless i am on beach rd then i will target for the 300 baht st beforehand. since nothing was discussed before i toyed with her by asking her how much i had to give her. she asked me if i wanted her to leave now. i said yes. i never keep a girl this long unless i am doing something special such as koh larn, but she was so damn beautiful that i really enjoyed looking at her. we also joked well together.
well the answer to my question was, "up to you." so i offered 100 baht. she said up to you again so i said okay 0 baht. she started laughing. the same time that i paid the bill at the pool hall i gave her a 1000 baht bill. we left and came back to my place for a third round. after that i finally decided to take her home. it hurt because i knew she would be a tough act to follow.
when we got to her place she asked if i wanted to come up. at first i said no but then i didn't have shit else to do. she said that she had better call first because maybe her friend's boyfriend was there. i told her that i did not care. we went upstairs. she called on the phone but i don't remember if her friend answered. she cracked the door and peeked in. i took that opportunity to barge in. there was a thai guy cuddling up on the bed asleep with one of the girls i had seen her at the disco with the night before. i said excuse me in thai then closed the door back. the time was 6p.m.
it reminded me of an excerpt from one of neil hutchison's books where he called himself going steady with a thai bar girl and found her thai boyfriend hiding out in the bathroom in the girl's room. i'm telling you guys, never shell out more dough than is absolutely needed. most of the proceeds are probably going to a thai guy anyway (nothing against thai guys; i actually admire them for being able to pocket so much farang money that way). and as a charter member of the church of bfs and lds are for noobs, suckers, and tourists, i must say that there is enough pussy floating around this place that no one should ever have to pay a bf or ld. but i guess some guys are more comfortable because a bar or an agogo appears to offer some type of structure.
all in all, i paid 1000 baht from 12:30a.m. (time met; 3a.m. time left the disco) until 6p.m. (from 15 to 17.5 hours, let's call it xlt for extra long time) to be with a model-like chick and completed 3 pops. damn i love this place.
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[quote=mr enternational]i arrived from the philippines the day before yesterday, which by the way doesn't hold a candle to pattaya. i went to the disco that night and picked up a tall, beautiful, young thing. 20 years old. she looked exactly like kimora lee and i verified it later by pulling up photos on the internet while in the presence of a thai lady friend so she could judge for me while the girl was there. she thought it was really her.
while in the disco i made it known from the start that she would be going with me. i left her in the on-deck circle while i butterflied around. she was really unsure that i would take her because of my butterflying ways so she told her friend to ask me. i verified through the friend that she was definitely mine for the night.
when we got to the room she immediately went down on me after we got into the bed. then she started to put on the shy role that thai girls are known for. but that was okay. i broke out some toys and drove the shyness out of her. i can't stop thinking about those long legs wrapped around my waist. we left the room about 1pm the next day and she came with me to run errands. then we had lunch with my wingmen. one wingman still had his catch from the previous night so we all went to shoot pool on soi diana.
the time was about 4p.m. i never even bother discussing prices anymore. i only deal with fl so i just use the up-to-me pricing scheme. that is 1000 baht lt or 500 baht st, unless i am on beach rd then i will target for the 300 baht st beforehand. since nothing was discussed before i toyed with her by asking her how much i had to give her. she asked me if i wanted her to leave now. i said yes. i never keep a girl this long unless i am doing something special such as koh larn, but she was so damn beautiful that i really enjoyed looking at her. we also joked well together.
well the answer to my question was, "up to you." so i offered 100 baht. she said up to you again so i said okay 0 baht. she started laughing. the same time that i paid the bill at the pool hall i gave her a 1000 baht bill. we left and came back to my place for a third round. after that i finally decided to take her home. it hurt because i knew she would be a tough act to follow.
when we got to her place she asked if i wanted to come up. at first i said no but then i didn't have shit else to do. she said that she had better call first because maybe her friend's boyfriend was there. i told her that i did not care. we went upstairs. she called on the phone but i don't remember if her friend answered. she cracked the door and peeked in. i took that opportunity to barge in. there was a thai guy cuddling up on the bed asleep with one of the girls i had seen her at the disco with the night before. i said excuse me in thai then closed the door back. the time was 6p.m.
it reminded me of an excerpt from one of neil hutchison's books where he called himself going steady with a thai bar girl and found her thai boyfriend hiding out in the bathroom in the girl's room. i'm telling you guys, never shell out more dough than is absolutely needed. most of the proceeds are probably going to a thai guy anyway (nothing against thai guys; i actually admire them for being able to pocket so much farang money that way). and as a charter member of the church of bfs and lds are for noobs, suckers, and tourists, i must say that there is enough pussy floating around this place that no one should ever have to pay a bf or ld. but i guess some guys are more comfortable because a bar or an agogo appears to offer some type of structure.
all in all, i paid 1000 baht from 12:30a.m. (time met; 3a.m. time left the disco) until 6p.m. (from 15 to 17.5 hours, let's call it xlt for extra long time) to be with a model-like chick and completed 3 pops. damn i love this place.[/quote]
good stuff! last i checked kimora lee is around 35 yrs old. was your lady also in her 30s?
it seems like it is much easier to get this kind of xtra gfe from the ladies on the other side of 30. some of them also look truly outstanding too.
happy hunting!
uncle v
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I encountered a similar situation with a gal from a bar on Walking Street last year. Picked her because she reminded me of a hot girlfriend I had in the US twenty years ago.
Got back to the room and it was all cell phone, won't do this, won't do that. I told her to get dressed because I was taking her back to the bar. This initiated a complete 180 on her part. She then framed my wanting to take her back as a joke (fine with me), and came on like a tiger. Actually had a pretty good time. Ironically, would up giving her a little extra.
Chalked it up to the importance in Asia of "saving face." Guess she did not want me marching into the bar complianing about her in front of others.
[QUOTE=Asian Fetish]178. 162. 182. 149 Anyway, another night in Pattaya and I was determined to find someone I'm really looking for. So I was combing the gogo's for that special someone when walking past hooty's in walking street I saw her. Standing outside the club wearing a body hugging grey dress, hostess dress.
She was excactely what I've been looking for, short, about 5'tall or under, dark skin, pettite but shapely figure and walked great which is always a turn on for me. Her name was Geegi and as mentioned works as a hostess at the club. I liked her as soon as I saw her, bought her a drink, chatted alittle asked her how much bar fine and for herself. 600 for bar and 2000lt for her, I can live with that I thought and we were away in a flash.
So this is where it begins, she asks me what I have planned to which I replied we'll quickly grab some kebabs from my favourite street vendor, acouple of drinks from 7/11, head up to my room and fuck!. She says sounds like a good idea but., its too early yet and suggests we maybe have acouple of drinks at a beerbar. Anything that makes you happy I said and with that she go's on to say her family has just opened a beerbar at one of the large complex's at the end of walking street and we should go there for some drinks. I should of seen this coming I said to myself but I figured acouple of drinks won't hurt.
Well, sitting there with drink in hand and her yip yaking to the old lady behind the bar I was getting bored also getting harrassed every 20 minutes for tips from the thai boxes when finishing their rounds in the ring. I really didn't mind this cause they were actually good fighters and putting on a good show, but what really got up my nose was when a few guys were entering the complex my girl for the night was welcoming them in and trying to entice them to sit at the bar we're at. I thought to myself, hang on a second *****, I paid your barfine and taken you out, your mine for the night. If you want your family's friend bar to succeed maybe he should get some young attractive girls behind the counter and not some old wrinkly 50 yearold pouring drinks. So with that thought, I paid bin and told her we leave now, she asked 'now', I just nodded my head, grabbed her hand and left without leaving a tip which they were expecting.
Back to the room and we showered and affectionately went to bed where we caressed and kissed to get me going. I went down and gave her a thorough tongue lashing to which she came, as I came up from between her legs she was looking at me with satisfaction and disbelieve, told me 'thankyou' with a soft voice then turned around, curled up and went to sleep. 'What the fuck' was my first reaction, but then I realised that the poor darling might need some rest after the entre, so decided to let her sleep alittle, turned on the tv and waited my turn.
4 fucking hours later and she's still sleeping, I was upset and I was going to wake her by sticking my cock up her ass when I thought up a better idea, I'll wait until around 5ish in the morning before I kick her out. Thats excactly what I did and as I ushered her out the door she was looking at me and expecting something, such as money, which I just closed the door behind her. As far as I was concerned the money she was expecting was spent at her family's freind's bar on drinks, while I only bought her three beers and two cokes for myself but thats how I felt, hopefully the next night will turn out better I hoped.[/QUOTE]
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Moeny Exchange
Can anybody tell me, where is the best place to exchange american dollars for bahts. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank You
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[QUOTE=Henryv]I encountered a similar situation with a gal from a bar on Walking Street last year. Picked her because she reminded me of a hot girlfriend I had in the US twenty years ago.
Got back to the room and it was all cell phone, won't do this, won't do that. I told her to get dressed because I was taking her back to the bar. This initiated a complete 180 on her part. She then framed my wanting to take her back as a joke (fine with me), and came on like a tiger. Actually had a pretty good time. Ironically, would up giving her a little extra.
Chalked it up to the importance in Asia of "saving face." Guess she did not want me marching into the bar complianing about her in front of others.[/QUOTE]The same thing happened to me at Nana,the girl was all over me in the bar, then back in the hotel room stalling, making calls to her family and planning on going home with the money she was expecting from me. When she wouldn't take the damn towel off, I kick her out(gently, no violence)
On the other hand, I had a girl in Pattaya I'd met in a bar call me up. she wanted to go out with me but I wasn't keen, so put her off for a couple of hours. When we did hook later she took me to bars her friends worked, which was pissing me off. I stuck with it and when we finally got to my condo, I thought she was drunk or high, but after we showered she fucked the asre off me for an hour, let me photo and video the whole episode. Sometimes you just have to play it by ear.
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[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]Good stuff! Last I checked Kimora Lee is around 35 yrs old. Was your lady also in her 30s?
It seems like it is much easier to get this kind of xtra GFE from the ladies on the other side of 30. Some of them also look truly outstanding too.
Happy hunting!
Uncle V[/QUOTE]Second sentence of his report he says he picked up a 20-year old who looked like Kimora lee.
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Decision time draws nigh
Greetings all.
I am new to this forum and have read through it extensively, enjoying especially Popper's colorful reports.
I am a fan and patron of Ghana and Kenya and confess a powerful penchant for dark women. Yet I am also keen on slutty sex, squalorous environs and prurience generally. Hence, the appeal of Pattaya.
I have three questions about Pattaya:
1. Among the most compelling features for me of girls in Ghana and Kenya is the nearly universal potential availability of everyday girls you meet in the street and who work in places like beauty parlors and travel bureaus and restaurants and supermarkets. Not to mention the ease of scoring with "regular" girls, often for free (as they presumably are looking for a long-term investment) via internet sites like afrointroductions. You won't score every time but you will score a lot of the time.
Now, keeping in mind the language barrier and the fact that I speak no Thai and for the moment have no intentions of learning, how available are "ordinary" women in Pattaya? How prevalent is English among the non-pro women? How are the social mores concerning striking up libidinal conversations with ostensibly non-working women? Acceptable? Frowned upon? Stupid question?
2. How prevalent are women from the darker-skinned tribes? Are they well represented among the working and ordinary girls?
3. When I was in BKK some years ago I had a wonderful time at the Eden Club. It is not clear after perusing the internet whether this club still exists in Pattaya. Does it?
Thanks in advance.
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Apologies
Just hit me that the Pattaya version of Eden is called Devil's Den.
But there used to be an Eden here, too, no?
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[QUOTE=Majestic1967]Can anybody tell me, where is the best place to exchange american dollars for bahts. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank You[/QUOTE]You just have to shop around as they can change all the time.
Always change your money in Thailand.
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Mobile Internet in Pattaya ?
Plannning my trip to Pattaya in January, one of the requirements is good internet access, for work.
So I can look for appartments with WiFi, but another option would be mobile internet access.
Are there reliable providers of WiMax/UMTS/HSDPA and if yes, how are the prices, for 1 month or 1 GB traffic ?
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[QUOTE=Henryv]I encountered a similar situation with a gal from a bar on Walking Street last year. Picked her because she reminded me of a hot girlfriend I had in the US twenty years ago.
Got back to the room and it was all cell phone, won't do this, won't do that. I told her to get dressed because I was taking her back to the bar. This initiated a complete 180 on her part. She then framed my wanting to take her back as a joke (fine with me), and came on like a tiger. Actually had a pretty good time. Ironically, would up giving her a little extra.
Chalked it up to the importance in Asia of "saving face." Guess she did not want me marching into the bar complianing about her in front of others.[/QUOTE]Yes that just shows the Thai mentality, she thought you were just a stupid farang, and had already banked your money, but you showed who the boss was, something not many mongers do, like you say she didn't want you marching her back to her bar, wanting your BF back In front of all her colleagues, so she sorted out her attitude.
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India
Okay,
For all of you wondering or arguing about india, let me break it down for you.
As an indian who has spent most of his life abroad, I have to say, india is severely lacking. As a tourist, india is not a bad place to visit. As a monger, india is most probably the last place in the world you want to visit.
You see the pictures of the indian actresses? Yeah, I dunno where those chicks come from, and if you would classify them as a 10 [among indian women], I've never seen one that even comes close to a 6 in real life, and I've been living here [india] for the past two and a half years. There are reports of red light districts in places like bombay and calcutta [or Mumbai and kolkata as they are referred to now], but really, I expect them to be rated in the negative when compared to foreign women.
As a human being, india is, quite frankly offensive in so many ways. People are touchy, loud, the roads are dirty and filthy, there's no semblance to alone time or privacy, the food is severely oily, spicy, unhygenic and the water is disease laden. Truly, if I start to list all the faults and shortcomings of india, I would not stop. My friends who have lived here their whole life say that given a choice they would always come back to the land of their forefathers or some bullshit, I just cannot understand or wrap my head around it.
Women here just do not consider the option of prostitution, even if they are in severe poverty [as is the case with over half the population]. They would rather sell their uterus or kill their families off and then themselves than consider such a think. This kind of news appears once every few days.
And for those of you who enjoy the other sinful pleasures in life, the cigarettes here are a real rough drag and leave stains on your fingernails and teeth within a week of starting to smoke them, and the booze tastes like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] water, and foreign booze, like a good scotch, while available at bars in 5-star hotels, probably cost as much as in bars in foreign countries. BTW, when I say foreign countries, I'm referring to western countries.
In short, mongers, please, please, please DO NOT waste your money coming to india for a sex holiday. Or better yet any kind of holiday, period. My home town here is a popular tourist spot, and even though I admit that it is one of only two places in india I visited that I like, the prices charged there, especially for tourists, is a complete rip off.
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While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.[/QUOTE]
Not an Indian guy here.....but let me throw down a possible answer.....Indian guys can buy a fairly low priced tour package to Thailand and stay together....many in the same room.....trying to save lodging and food costs (this is not a "cheapness" issue....just one of not having a huge amount of surplus money) . Possibly a two for one deal with the girl for the budget conscious has been accomplished....and she actually is both of their "girlfriends"??
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[QUOTE=Satyr9]Greetings all.
I am new to this forum and have read through it extensively, enjoying especially Popper's colorful reports.
I am a fan and patron of Ghana and Kenya and confess a powerful penchant for dark women. Yet I am also keen on slutty sex, squalorous environs and prurience generally. Hence, the appeal of Pattaya.
I have three questions about Pattaya:
1. Among the most compelling features for me of girls in Ghana and Kenya is the nearly universal potential availability of everyday girls you meet in the street and who work in places like beauty parlors and travel bureaus and restaurants and supermarkets. Not to mention the ease of scoring with "regular" girls, often for free (as they presumably are looking for a long-term investment) via internet sites like afrointroductions. You won't score every time but you will score a lot of the time.
Now, keeping in mind the language barrier and the fact that I speak no Thai and for the moment have no intentions of learning, how available are "ordinary" women in Pattaya? How prevalent is English among the non-pro women? How are the social mores concerning striking up libidinal conversations with ostensibly non-working women? Acceptable? Frowned upon? Stupid question?
2. How prevalent are women from the darker-skinned tribes? Are they well represented among the working and ordinary girls?
3. When I was in BKK some years ago I had a wonderful time at the Eden Club. It is not clear after perusing the internet whether this club still exists in Pattaya. Does it?
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
1. A lot of the girls in Pattaya come there to work the sex game (as do their Thai boyfriends).....so there are a lot of professionals around (with a drug addicted, possibly bi-sexual boyfriend).....but of course there are many girls working in shops and other non sex commercial establishments.....the only problem is that they see what the working girls have....and possible see the farang as a means to this end.....so great relationships are hard to come by.
2. You can definitely find darker skinned girls in Pattaya......even negro looking ones......
3. Eden Club Pattaya was closed after the French owner's (Marc) partner in the venture suddenly died. I don't think there is any connection now between the Devil's Den and BKK Eden.....although there is a similar format.
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Walking street bar fine
I am not a cheap Charlie and buy far too many lady drinks. OK now I have made that statement I can tell you what happened last night, it was around midnight and I was heading back to my hotel. I had been drinking all day but not drunk, I stopped at a bar for 1 last drink before hitting beach road for a take away (Beach road was very busy many girls) sat at the bar and started talking to an older lady, she was very easy to talk with and a good rack for her age. I finished my beer and decided to ask her to accompany me, I paid the 80 baht for the drink and 300 barfine. The cashier then said she couldn't leave until I bought her a lady drink, as I had too much beer I didn't want to hang around so the bar fine is not 300 but 450, she never asked for a drink whilst we were chatting, if she had I would have bought her one gladly. To make a point I got my 300 baht back and walked so the bar lost 300, I will probably go back tonight and buy her a lady drink but not bar fine her this will probably confuse them even more!
May the force be with you.
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Nova Platinum Massage
[QUOTE=Triple Input]I am heading to Pattaya in October and will be staying at the Nova Platinum Hotel. I would like to get an in call massage but I don't want the normal rub and tug. I want a full 5 star 2 hour massage then with the HJ at the end. I have heard that this place has a spa but after looking at the internet it doesn't, can any conform this? Also I would like to stop by a hair salon and get a hair but plus get my pubic hair trimmer shorter too, any ideas on a place?
Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]
The reason that it isn't on their website is that it's an outside vendor that they rent space to. It opened a year and a half ago when their tower #2 opened, and they were having a special promotion for guests at NP. I tried one of their deluxe spa packages...I think it was 3 hours for 2000 THB, and it included a milk bubble bath, a body scrub, and an oil massage. A VERY nice experience, and of course the usual upsell options were offered including HE. Of course I paid the special service to the girl in cash.
I had asked before I went there if I could charge it to my room, and of course they said yes, but when I went to check out a week or so later, the NP manager on duty insisted that I pay the spa bill separately, in cash. Well, I explained that they said it could be added to my hotel bill, and that I had already changed all my THB back to USDollars. He was a very unpleasant man, but he had no choice but to add it to my bill because that was the only way he was going to get paid.
BTW, I was a long time customer of the NP hotel, and I had spent over 80 nights there over 4 visits, but after that occasion I will never go back. There are SO many better hotels that actually know the meaning of "Customer Service"
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@Popper1 and any others...
I was under the impression that bar fines and lady drinks are de rigeur and unavoidable.
Popper1 writes: BFs and LDs are for Noobs, Suckers, and Tourists.
As an official noob and tourist who is trying mostly not to be a sucker in life, I would like to know how you avoid these things?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]Not an Indian guy here. But let me throw down a possible answer. Indian guys can buy a fairly low priced tour package to Thailand and stay together. Many in the same room. Trying to save lodging and food costs (this is not a "cheapness" issue. Just one of not having a huge amount of surplus money). Possibly a two for one deal with the girl for the budget conscious has been accomplished. And she actually is both of their "girlfriends"?[/QUOTE]it is true that I am indian, however, as I stated before, I spent most of my life outside of india, and as such have a hard time to consider myself an 'indian'.
That being said, let me try to answer your question, mr enternational. Here in india, it is not uncommon for men to hold hands while walking down the street, or for them to link pinky fingers or for them to sit on each others lap while in crowded trains or buses. Indian men are quite touchy feely with other men that they know well. Handshakes between two male friends sometimes last half the duration of the converstaion. I find this extremely funny, and not to mention put off [uncomfortable, I'm not a homophobe] by it, as the indian nation as a whole is extremely homophobic, and homosexuality is considered a sin, and [almost] a crime worthy of stoning. Theres a stand up comedian who makes fun of this. Russel peters in red, white and brown; a canadian born and raised indian.
Lover boy #2, you do make a vaild point, and that is one of many possible reasons. However, indians are misers, so it may not just be a budget restraint issue.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the standard of living in india is quite low, the daily wages for a labourer come to around $7 a day, I think. I know for a fact that [with todays exchange rate], a mba qualified worker starts off in a bank at $6110 per year. Of course, there are those who earn a lot, as seen in the world richest list consisting of, I think, two indians.
I'm pretty sure that the indians that do come to Thailand are those that work in foreign countries, and while they may earn a lot when compared to those in india, they generally have families that they support. The concept of leaving home and standing on your own two legs is unfamiliar here. Men get married and still live with their parents unless circumstance force them to move out or away, family is everything.
Men and women have no physical contact here, its taboo. Even husbands and wives don't touch each other in public, I cannot comment on their home lives, but I don't think its very different. Sex is generally seen a a tool for reproduction only, and not a pleasurable activity. Most married couples have sex only to have kids and they usually do so within the first year of marriage. So it could just be that the second dude was starving to touch a lbfm until he had found his own. LOL.
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[quote=reiner otto]plannning my trip to pattaya in january, one of the requirements is good internet access, for work.
so i can look for appartments with wifi, but another option would be mobile internet access.
are there reliable providers of wimax/umts/hsdpa and if yes, how are the prices, for 1 month or 1 gb traffic ?[/quote]
cheapest option is if you have a phone you can tether or a 3g dongle, then buy a truemove sim card. 599 baht a month gives you unlimited 3g.
it's about 1.5-2mbps download, 300-400k upload. similar to adsl 2mb package.
see the prices here
[url]http://www.truemove.com/iphone/en/price.html[/url]
see the areas covered here, click "service areas"
[url]http://www.truemove.com/en/service-3g.html[/url]
you can check the aircard when you're arriving to see if prepay is available. prepay is no monthly contract i think, just month by month.
[url]http://www.truemove.com/aircard/en/default.aspx[/url]
if you're interested in hutch, i suggest going into their store next to tukcom and talking to them instead of going off the info on the website. the speeds might be slower than you expect from what you read, and sometimes they make you pay a year up front, etc. if you're facing tukcom on pattaya tai, turn left (east) and cross the small street, go about 30 meters, it's a really small store on the right. they might have evdo packages cheap. that's usually 1-1.5mbps down, but 0.05kbps up, so you can't skype on it. it only works in pattaya/jomtien area, and will not work in bangkok.
[url]http://www.hutch.co.th/mbi/prepay/index_en.htm#pack01[/url]
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Thai Bar
[QUOTE=Popper1]Walking around Lucifers. Near there was a Thai bar. Again, to be clear, these are small, hole-in-the-wall places which are filled with girls. They are all sitting, relaxing, etc.
As stated before, being a member of the Church of [b]LDs and Bar Fines are for Suckers, Noobs, and Tourists[/b], walked in. Place very small. Talked to six girls and offered them all drinks. Again, this is not an LD, but rather offering to buy a bunch of gals lady drinks -- totally different.
Decided I was in the mood for a bigger gal with white skin and large tits. More the Western look for tonight. My mood goes back and forth from that to the smaller LBFM. Anyway, as you can see from the picture, the Thai whiskey comes in a small M-150 bottle. There are seven shots in the bottle, and cost 40 baht. Ordered three bottles for the gals and I to share. Tho I not a whiskey connoisseur, suspect at about 6 baht a shot that this not the highest quality available.
500 baht for ST and we were off to my hotel.[/QUOTE]I saw this place the other night, not really knowing. What made me do a double take is that a girl I took from Lucifer in March was there when I walked by. The day that I took her she was drunk off Thai whiskey. Now I know where she gets it from. She must get liquored up in the Thai bar before going to Lucifer so she won't have to buy the 90 baht drinks there.
Location: Leaving out of Lucifer directly across and to the left is a small alley (I park my bike there when going to Walking Street). Probably 5 steps from the corner on the left is a red and black sign in western script and in Thai script. The western script says "Kab Tawan."
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[QUOTE=The Scout]Cheapest option is if you have a phone you can tether or a 3G Dongle, then buy a TrueMove sim card. 599 baht a month gives you unlimited 3G.
[/QUOTE]
There is no 3G in Thailand. A court has blocked the concession bidding by the the telecommunication authority (I would be digressing).
So whatever it is, 2 or 2.5, etc it's not 3G, that is still far away.
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Soi 6 afternoon
Arrived very early around 12:30, not many girls around, the ones that were there were putting on make up, doing their hair etc. Had a quiet beer in the 2nd bar form the end next door to the bee, relaxing and able to watch them all arrive for their shift. Moved onto the Full Moon and met an 18 year old who called herself kik, very petite and just last night had her tongue pierced, she was quick to point out it helps her blowjob. Decided to save for later as I had only just got rid of last night's lady and felt like I wouldn't be able to do it justice. Moved onto the Halifax bar nearest beach road (there are 2 Halifax bars on soi 6) not much talent inside but friendly atmosphere, a looker came in after 30 mins but a guy was already waiting for her. As I was leaving heavens opened up so took shelter in a massage parlour about 5 doors up, opted for oil this turned out to be one of the best I have ever had. 500baht for the happy ending.
May the force be with you.
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NY Times
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=2&ref=general&src=me[/url]
Worth reading for those visiting thailand for the first time. A lot is a rehash of what people have already mentioned in the forum. Just look at the quotes on what they are saying.
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[QUOTE=David 2]
BTW, I was a long time customer of the NP hotel, and I had spent over 80 nights there over 4 visits, but after that occasion I will never go back. There are SO many better hotels that actually know the meaning of "Customer Service"[/QUOTE]
See my report in Pattaya Hotels about Nova Gold - right around the corner from Platinum - nice property but the staff is downright rude.
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[QUOTE=VileMaggot]Okay,
For all of you wondering or arguing about india, let me break it down for you.
As an indian who has spent most of his life abroad, I have to say, india is severely lacking. As a tourist, india is not a bad place to visit. As a monger, india is most probably the last place in the world you want to visit.
[/QUOTE]
I'm an Indian myself and living in India for the last 30 years. I'm sorry on behalf of all Indians who spoil the game for others..i don't know what else to do...you are right on every word you say man..i agree..
Indian are not liked anywhere they go ...they are wrapped around their tiny heads to think India is all that exist around the world. They are kicked in Australia, they slave in US and europe and are not entertained in Thailand.
The few who understand and respect the global culture of humanity and respect would pass way over the head of majority of Indians. 99% of Indians have serious Psychological issues...they are brain dead and are incapable of understanding another culture and humans.
Not all are bad though many Indians who are global minded and visit these forums are cool and understand...but majority are just dumb cows..if you try to put some sense into them ...they will accuse you of being anti-indian.
If you tell that Indians smell bad due to eating habits and curry and Indians should use more deo and perfume ...they will accuse me of being anti-Indian...its sad really i pity my own people...its hopeless.
Think about it ...one of the most hated people in Pattaya are not the lady boys who pester tourist..even they have sense......but the Indian tailors...who left their brains on a sewing machine...just shaking hands with everyone and thinking everyone needs a f**cking suit in pattaya...its moronic and stupid f**ckfull shameful act of what they do to tourist in Thailand and bring bad names to all Indians.
These Indian tailors must be kicked out of Thailand to bring some sense of existence in Pattaya for other Indians who behave properly.
I don't know what else to do...i have given up...its frustrating ..no matter how many good Indians try to give a good image of us abroad..there are 100 other morons who spoil the place for rest of us...what can we do?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.[/QUOTE]Bro, I'm an Indian myself, read my reply below...most of the Indian's you see in Pattaya are cheap charlie dumb f**ck cows with no human mind. Most of them are possessed by some kinda entity they pray too.
Trust me man....there is no hope here...why do you think an uneducated, illiterate thai bar girl from Issan who has no idea of how the world works when she sees an Indian...utterly disgust them ..most of the bar girls gets smitten by Indians.....there must be something in her soul or self to detest bad vibration.
All bad acts done by Indians does not go unnoticed..words spread around...no matter how hard tiny few good Indians try to do...10000 others will spoil it for us....its time to move on man...lets move onto something else..its hopeless talking about us..we ain't gonna change anytime soon :)
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]I'm an Indian myself and living in India for the last 30 years.
99% of Indians have serious Psychological issues...they are brain dead and are incapable of understanding another culture and humans.[/QUOTE]So where do you fall in this overall percentile?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]Not an Indian guy here. But let me throw down a possible answer. Indian guys can buy a fairly low priced tour package to Thailand and stay together. Many in the same room. Trying to save lodging and food costs (this is not a "cheapness" issue. Just one of not having a huge amount of surplus money). Possibly a two for one deal with the girl for the budget conscious has been accomplished. And she actually is both of their "girlfriends"?[/QUOTE]while I am of indian citizenship, as stated before, I have spent most of my life outside of india, and as such have a hard time considering myself as an 'indian', especially when I see the general attitudes, behaviour and customs of the people around me. That being said, let me take a stab at trying to explain the actions of my countrymen.
I must admit, I am not completely sure about what to make of the scenario you posed before me, mr enternational. From my observations and general understanding, homosexuality is not tolerated in india, although recently some headway is being made there. [I'm pretty sure there's a pun or innuendo in the previous sentence, completely unintentional]. However, a very common scene here is two or more [straight] guys, dressed quite flamboyantly, holding hands, or linking pinky fingers or sitting on each other laps in crowded buses and trains. Handshakes between two male relatives or friends usually last at least half the length of the converstaion. A stand up comedian makes fun of this in his show. Russell peters in red, white and brown. Canadian born and raised indian. Threesome?, I think not.
As lover boy #2 speculated, it may not be an issue of cheapness. [though that is not out of the possibility]. The standard of living here is quite low. I'm pretty sure that the average labour worker makes around $7 a day. I know for a fact that mba graduates get bank jobs with a starting salary of $6110 [at todays rate] per year.
However, it is a well known fact that indians are cheap. Not misers, just cheap. A 'two for one deal' is not a bad explanation, but I highly doubt it is a threesome. They're probably indians with jobs in a foreign country. While they may make more money than they would in india, they probably have families back home they have to take care of. Family is one of the most important things in india, second only to religion.
Sex is seen as a reproductive tool and not a pleasurable leisure activity here. Most couple have a child within the first year of marriage. Marriages that are arranged. Pda is non exstant here. Males and females do not have physical contact. For example, a college student may have a boy/girl friend. This is just a title, they may go out for a coffee or talk to each other on the phone a lot and maybe send cutesy messages. That is the extent of it. No holding hands or hugging or kissing and definitely no sex. Maybe the second guy was just starving for the feel of a lbfm, and couldn't wait till he got his own, LOL.
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Starchild, why do you pick on the tailors, these people only try to make an honest living. The only reason I would buy a suite would be if I was invited to party in an high-rollers club (it is not happening), but other people may need or like one anyway, there os nothing wrong with that.
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High end Spa place?
Any tips on where to go in Pattaya to get pampered?
I mean proper body treatments in a proper wellness centre.
Cheers
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Milky a go go
A quick report on a recent trip to Pataya. Same as ever – and only took girls rom Soi 6 bars (My Friend You and Halifax) and also from Go Go to right as you go up to Club X…..
Only one thing unusual to report. I saw a youngish Japanese women in a go go up one of the side sois from Walking St (can't recall which one ...sorry) with her male partner. She was sitting right on the edge of the shower play area and interacting with the dancers, buying drinks and lots of touching and soaping them up – she appeared quite excited by the whole thing and it was horny watching her.
I knew one of the shower girls a bit but she wouldn’t tell me what was being whispered…anyhow ever one to push the situation, I got my shower girl to express a little milk from her breasts for me to taste while making sure the Japanese woman saw what was happening.. She sure arced up and so I persuaded my friend to do it again and this time offer the Japanese woman a taste – which she duly did! Very horny situation.
Lot more whispering and I thought I might be in for a very different night but unfortunately she picked out another dancer, her partner barfined her an they all left after she gave me a high five very un-Japanese esp from a woman……however my fantasies live on!
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]I'm an Indian myself and living in India for the last 30 years. I'm sorry on behalf of all Indians who spoil the game for others..i don't know what else to do...you are right on every word you say man..i agree..
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I don't know what else to do...i have given up...its frustrating ..no matter how many good Indians try to give a good image of us abroad..there are 100 other morons who spoil the place for rest of us...what can we do?[/QUOTE]Are you trying to bring to ISG the Indian "levels" that should be abandoned for good?
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Pattaya report: day 1
So finally returned back to Pattaya (and Thailand in general) after an approximately two year gap. Hadn't really needed the "Asian" fix since I moved to Kuwait and there are plenty of Chinese and Phillipina providers there. I was in Dubai on business and afterwards had to burn off some excess vacation time so decided to take a side trip to LOS for old time’s sake.
Stopped off in Bangkok first for a few days and was quickly bored to death after the first night. I usually try to get African, Russian, or any other non Asian provider in Bangkok since I've had good luck in the past pulling them from regular bars and clubs such as Spazos. However I already did Asian, African, and Russian over the course of my two nights in Dubai so didn't even bother.
Arrived in Pattaya earlier this afternoon pretty much hung over after a night of binging at Soi 7 back in Bangkok and not too excited at all; I was actually thinking about cutting my trip early until I got to my hotel and was immediately impressed. I won't go into too much detail here (but will later on the hotel forum) since it is late and I want to get to my first day's pickup but if anyone has a chance to stay at the Vault, I suggest you take it. This place is top notch and extremely girl friendly. I got one of their penthouse rooms which are HUGE with Jacuzzi, stripper pole/stage and the guy who runs the place is very helpful with anything you might need. He even provided me with a local cell phone to use as well as to call him anytime if I needed anything. I've been coming to Pattaya off and on since 1990 and never before have had I experienced such support and service.
So anyway, after taking care of some business, getting something to eat and taking a nap, I headed out around 8PM to Walking Street (only two minute walk away). Didn’t want to rush things nor drink too much since I was still feeling slightly queasy from the previous night’s binger. Plan was to catch a baht bus to SOI 6 then work my way back to Walking Street while checking out the Beach Road action. Decided to try and walk instead to work off the earlier meal but only got halfway before I realized it was further than I thought and due to the humidity, I was soon covered in sweat. Got a baht bus to SOi 6 and the memories instantly came flooding back. Got the usual cat calls and whatnot but decided against choosing anyone or going into any of the bars (yet) because the girls looked to me to be way too young or were not girls; in fact there were a LOT more katooey there than I remember.
Anyway I was reading Poppers posts and had already decided I was going to give the Beach Road action a try before paying for any bar fines or lady drinks. Walked the length of Soi 6 then around the block and back down to beach road, again covered in sweat. It was getting late and I was getting tired so decided to take a baht bus all the way back to Walking Street to hit some of the go-gos and check out the street action. Noticed that there is a lot more Russian/Uzbek hookers than I remember from my last visit but none of them were really giving me the “look” to come and see what was on the menu and again, I had my fill back in Dubai. Although I almost approached one thin beauty who was staring strangely at me but her fat ugly friend saw us looking at each other and immediately tried to negotiate 8000 baht to which I replied; “dosvadonya, sweetie”.
Kept getting pestered by touts to check out the live sex shows but I had already seen one earlier that week in Bangkok. These guys are insistent to the point that I almost thought one was going to try and physically impel me to go. In fact, it may be the off season but it seemed a lot of the clubs and vendors were sparsely populated and the place itself didn’t seem crowded at all; lots of couples who didn’t look to be interested in the strip bars.
Thirsty so decided to hit up a few go-gos for the 45baht drafts, went into one of the baby dolls and was immediately set upon by all the unoccupied half naked girls. I grabbed a seat, ordered a drink and was enjoying the show when the inevitable happened; “by lady drink?” The request was from the sweet young thing sitting next to me and I might have had not four of her co-workers also decided for some reason at that moment to also hit me up for lady drinks. I took that as my cue to vamoose and to all their dismay finished my drink, paid and left. I’d like to have told the other girls that they all just screwed their friend out of a drink but I don’t think it would have registered. In any case it brought me back to my original plan to hit Beach Road.
I hit three more go-gos and repeated the same strategy of leaving whenever asked about LD’s. I will say that all of the girls were progressively better looking and naked with each bar I visited and the last one almost got me; I had two dancers on either side of me with one massaging my package and noticing as it got bigger then urging her friend to also have a feel to which she eagerly did. Now that was feeling pretty good but I knew I had to finish my beer and get out before the begging started. Too late, they must have somehow sensed what I was thinking (probably the way I chugged my beer and looked towards the exit) and both hit me up with LD requests , instantly killing the half chub I had going. Mama san sees me digging in my pocket and assumes I’m going to buy LD’s but I tell her I just want to pay the bill. Now I got mamasan, two topless girls, and another dancer who’d been eyeing from across the stage all hassling me about why I was leaving. I tell them I don’t have enough money to stay and need to hit an ATM. They urge me to come back and freaking mamasan then makes like she is going to come with me to the ATM to I guess “make sure” I come back to the gogo and spend more money, even saying I did not have to pay the current bill right now but could do so when I came back. Told her no, I’ll pay right now because I might not come back and sad faces all around. There was only me and I think 4 other guys in the place so I guess they weren’t having a good night.
I actually did go to an ATM on 2nd road and was hit up by this kid to come see another sex show which was right there. Unlike the previous others this guy seemed reasonably nice and not pushy so I took him up on it. The show was on the second floor of a go go bar that you have to pass through. Things must be desperate because I was not five steps in before the go-go dancer were all on me trying to force me to sit and drink, “nope, going upstairs to see some ping pong action” to which they insisted I wait and have a drink with them first. The kid actually had to come back in and tell them that he promised me I’d see the show upstairs and they let me go. The show itself wasn’t that great; the usual girls on stage doing the same ol things with ping pong balls and bananas. I guess if you’ve seen one, you’ve pretty much seen them all. These performers didn’t seem to have it all together either; balls didn’t make it into glasses and one poor girl had a problem “blowing” out all the candles on the fake birthday cake. I actually would have stayed longer to see the actual sex show (there was a half naked muscular Asian dude and attractive girl getting ready to hit the stage next) but the particular bargirls were just annoying the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of me as I was trying to watch the show.
Constantly asking questions and just plain oblivious to the fact that I was only there to see some weird sex shit on stage. One of them (an old lady whose good days in this profession were over a long time ago) actually got frustrated to the point that she pointedly asked me “why you not look at lady? (the bargirls)” to whom I simply pointed to the lady on stage having sex with the banana and said, “I AM looking at lady...that one!” After that I just paid for my one drink and left, but not before being chased by the bargirls from the first floor who where insistent that I remain and drink there. NOPE! I left grabbed a cab and finally hit beach road. Pickings were not bad; saw various ranges of girls and some I just weren’t sure about. Saw one cute lil spinner walking my way and she made eye contact. As soon as she saw me look back it was “where you go?” to which I replied, “with you”. So far so good; only on Beach Road for about ten minutes and already had a cutie to take back and defile. Her name was Oom and she said that she had only been out about 15 minutes when we met. She tried to get 1000baht but I told her I only wanted ST and would give her 500. She first tried to say that the 1000 WAS for ST but then relented and decided to accept the 500.
We get into a tuktuk that already has 3 other passengers; 2 European sounding dudes and one old crazy-ass Katooey who may have been on drugs or just a nutter. She kept patting my knee and talking about the driver accusing him of asking for too much money (not sure if she meant me or herself). The other dudes got off at an earlier stop so now it’s just me, oom, and this crazy katoey who I can’t help but notice is sitting uncomfortably close to the point that I happen to glance down to see that she had worked the cargo pocket of my shorts open and almost had her fingers in to try to knick some baht. I immediately jumped up and moved to the opposite seat, I couldn’t tell if she was embarrassed or pissed at getting caught but she didn’t say anything and neither did I.
She got off at the next stop and Oom asked me why I moved. I didn’t want her to think I was an asshole against katooeys and told her that I caught the katooey trying to pick my pocket. Oom asked if I wanted to tell the tourist police but at that point I just wanted to screw and told her no since the old bag didn’t get anything.
Get back to the Vault and the girl at the desk simply asks Oom for ID and off we go to my Penthouse room for action! I learned awhile back that a decent room goes a long way with these girls and the suite I have really impressed this one. Showed her around and eventually ended up in the bedroom but first wanted to take a shower. She insisted I take mine first which I was slightly worried about but made sure to keep my wallet and stuff with me in the bathroom. I came out of the shower to her already naked looking for a towel. Body is a solid 9, no scars and some nice tattoo work on her chest and back. Nice rack, not big but perfect for a girl her size and she had a nice ass of which I was hoping to get to know better later on.
She takes her shower, comes out smelling good and after some casual talk, she proceed so slowly and sweetly perform a really good BBBJ. I was tempted to blow in her mouth but she decided at that moment to reach for the condom put it on and mount me cowgirl style. She was tight and eased herself slowly up and down my shaft while making small whimpering noises. After a few thrusts, she looked down at me and requested I do her missionary style to which I kindly obliged. We turned over and she wrapped her legs tightly around my waste as I plunged and grinded into her. She began pumping and grinding herself against me and now moaning and groaning loudly with pleasure. I could feel myself building to climax but didn’t want to until after I hit it doggie so pulled out and flipped her over on her hands and knees. She thrust her ass back onto my crank and began quickly moving back and forth; I didn’t even have to do anything as she was doing all the work. Even so, I still grabbed those perfect ass cheeks and spread em’ while ramming her enjoying the high pitched squeal she emitted with each pounding. Well I could tell I was done for and shot what felt like a gallon of joy juice into the condom (forgetting that I actually had planned to shoot on her face or in her mouth). She wouldn’t let me pull out and kept on grinding herself against me until she stiffened up came.
So afterwards we’re cleaning up and she wants to know when she can see me again. I tell here to give me a call anytime since having some ass on call could be a good thing. Going to see about doing her again tomorrow afternoon and maybe see if she might be up for a bit of group play. In the meantime, I just finished counting the money I DIDN’T spend on lady drinks and bar fines and it amounts to a pretty penny.
My total tally for the first day:
One gin and tonic each from three separate go-go: about 380 baht (they were priced differently at each place which made me a bit suspicious)
2 draft beers from two other go-gos: 90 baht for both (45 apiece)
Tuk Tuk rides: 30 baht
Beach Road freelancer: 500 Baht st
Total spent on drinks and booty: 1000baht!!!
I probably won’t be too welcome in the go-go once I repeat the pattern so will probably just stay away from them in favor of the smaller beer bars. I’ll try to get a few more Beach Road regulars or other freelancers “on the payroll” so I’ll have my booty needs sorted.
If I can stick to this plan then I should actually leave here WITH some money instead of putting a dent in my bank account.
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[QUOTE=Must Stop][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=2&ref=general&src=me[/url]
Worth reading for those visiting thailand for the first time. A lot is a rehash of what people have already mentioned in the forum. Just look at the quotes on what they are saying.[/QUOTE]
....amazing that the NY Times cannot get a simple definition straight. That is a tuk-tuk not a "samlor".
"Joseph and Nui Davis in their custom three-wheeled samlor".
"A picture caption in an earlier version of this article referred imprecisely to a three-wheeled vehicle. While the term tuk-tuk is often used loosely to refer to such vehicles, the one pictured is a samlor".
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]I'm an Indian myself and living in India for the last 30 years. I'm sorry on behalf of all Indians who spoil the game for others..i don't know what else to do...you are right on every word you say man..i agree..
Indian are not liked anywhere they go ...they are wrapped around their tiny heads to think India is all that exist around the world. They are kicked in Australia, they slave in US and europe and are not entertained in Thailand.
The few who understand and respect the global culture of humanity and respect would pass way over the head of majority of Indians. 99% of Indians have serious Psychological issues...they are brain dead and are incapable of understanding another culture and humans.
Not all are bad though many Indians who are global minded and visit these forums are cool and understand...but majority are just dumb cows..if you try to put some sense into them ...they will accuse you of being anti-indian.
If you tell that Indians smell bad due to eating habits and curry and Indians should use more deo and perfume ...they will accuse me of being anti-Indian...its sad really i pity my own people...its hopeless.
Think about it ...one of the most hated people in Pattaya are not the lady boys who pester tourist..even they have sense......but the Indian tailors...who left their brains on a sewing machine...just shaking hands with everyone and thinking everyone needs a f**cking suit in pattaya...its moronic and stupid f**ckfull shameful act of what they do to tourist in Thailand and bring bad names to all Indians.
These Indian tailors must be kicked out of Thailand to bring some sense of existence in Pattaya for other Indians who behave properly.
I don't know what else to do...i have given up...its frustrating ..no matter how many good Indians try to give a good image of us abroad..there are 100 other morons who spoil the place for rest of us...what can we do?[/QUOTE]
I think you are being a bit hard on yourself and your people.....although most of us see our fellow countrymen (German, Brit, American, whatever) at work and start to get that same sense of sickness in our stomach as we see our national language used and the idiot connected to it. This is natural.
Many of the Indian tailors came to Thailand during the Vietnam conflict and got their start around the US base in Udonthani.....really trying to scratch out an existence. As the economy flourished into the 80's and 90's they left the zones of earlier boom economy and chased the baht to BKK, Pattaya and elsewhere. The guys on the street are mostly from Nepal, working for their Indian brothers at a very low wage......let's pity them as their country has become a Maoist state and possibly they are true refugees??.......let's pity them instead of beating them down for engaging us (and possibly touching us) in annoying ways.
....and as it relates to clean breath......our Thai friends have been known to have the breath of the dragon......chillies and Lao food can be a real breath destroyer.....similar to curry......so why do the Thais always have something to say about the Indians "smell bad"?
Maybe it is all a matter of trying to push someone to the lowest rung on the totem pole??.....it seems a human nature.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]So where do you fall in this overall percentile?[/QUOTE]
Most definitely in the 99% of Indian's who have Psychological issues :)...Man, i have been living here all my life...this disease is infectious...I I invite you to India and be my guest for couple of months and see if you are able to keep your sanity without fun. ISG and its members posts are an outlet to cure my issues. I can never write.. what i wrote here in an Indian centric forum..they will crucify me. ISG is a therapy for me :)
[quote=Bionicman]are you trying to bring to ISG the Indian "levels" that should be abandoned for good? [/quote]
Hell no Bionicman...that would be the last day, i will ever post on ISG. This Indian thing, attitude should be dumped for ever. I just brought this up to show a perspective on where India stands with the world in terms of fun and attitude.
[quote=new old boy]Starchild, why do you pick on the tailors, these people only try to make an honest living. The only reason I would buy a suite would be if I was invited to party in an high-rollers club (it is not happening), but other people may need or like one anyway, there os nothing wrong with that.[/quote]
I understand your point...but there are 1 million other street vendors in Thailand who do not act the way Indian tailors do to get customers...Im sure there must be 100 other Thai tailors who will make a suit but don't use the tactic that Indian tailors do..
Once a tourist says NO ..... It means NO...why is it so hard for Indian tailors to understand that if a person needs a suit HE WILL COME TO YOU :)
Why does he goes all the way to shake his hand and force him into his store sometimes. Its an attitude....Making a suit isn't one of the greatest invention of mankind or man cannot live without it..its just a choice.
I never wanted to point it out and frankly im used to it..BUT i have read 10000 annoying complaints and disgust from european, American and other Asian tourist in many forums that its simply annoying to shake hands with Indian tailors. They don't live even Indian tourist alone...i was approached 10 times by same guys passing the same street...they use the cloth from India and i could get a suit made for 1/4th of the price here.
Its about honesty i agree but is also about decency and showing respect for other people and respecting their private space. No one like to shake hands with strangers on the road.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]I think you are being a bit hard on yourself and your people.....although most of us see our fellow countrymen (German, Brit, American, whatever) at work and start to get that same sense of sickness in our stomach as we see our national language used and the idiot connected to it. This is natural.
Many of the Indian tailors came to Thailand during the Vietnam conflict and got their start around the US base in Udonthani.....really trying to scratch out an existence. As the economy flourished into the 80's and 90's they left the zones of earlier boom economy and chased the baht to BKK, Pattaya and elsewhere. The guys on the street are mostly from Nepal, working for their Indian brothers at a very low wage......let's pity them as their country has become a Maoist state and possibly they are true refugees??.......let's pity them instead of beating them down for engaging us (and possibly touching us) in annoying ways.
....and as it relates to clean breath......our Thai friends have been known to have the breath of the dragon......chillies and Lao food can be a real breath destroyer.....similar to curry......so why do the Thais always have something to say about the Indians "smell bad"?
Maybe it is all a matter of trying to push someone to the lowest rung on the totem pole??.....it seems a human nature.[/QUOTE]
You have good intentions Lover Boy....If you read my past post in the last 5 years or so...i have only said positive things about India and going the insane distance to protect Indians. But there is a limit to all things. I thought attitude against Indians would improve in Thailand once more Indians go there from difference social class..but it has only gotten worse.
Anways, I don't wanna bring down Pattaya thread to Indian vs talk...my last post on this and sorry if i have hurt any Indians or farangs feelings
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]... Anways, I don't wanna bring down Pattaya thread to Indian vs talk...my last post on this and sorry if i have hurt any Indians or farangs feelings[/QUOTE]
Not at all, Starchild. I for one find your reports fascinating as I never could quite understand why great p4p was not readily available in India in light of the abject poverty of the masses ... You have answered my questions ... What a pity that religion can suck all the joy out of all the people in an entire nation ... reducing them to "cows."
Sadly, this will be the fate of my own nation (USA) if the left and right wing morons have their way.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I saw this place the other night, not really knowing. What made me do a double take is that a girl I took from Lucifer in March was there when I walked by. The day that I took her she was drunk off Thai whiskey. Now I know where she gets it from. She must get liquored up in the Thai bar before going to Lucifer so she won't have to buy the 90 baht drinks there.
Location: Leaving out of Lucifer directly across and to the left is a small alley (I park my bike there when going to Walking Street). Probably 5 steps from the corner on the left is a red and black sign in western script and in Thai script. The western script says "Kab Tawan."[/QUOTE]
Haha! I was there the other night with some people. I saw 2 girls from Baccara. They showed up, got their buzz on quickly, then left to go back to work. I also saw 3 freelancers plow through a 700 (or 750ml?) bottle of whiskey and soda.
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]There is no 3G in Thailand. A court has blocked the concession bidding by the the telecommunication authority (I would be digressing).
So whatever it is, 2 or 2.5, etc it's not 3G, that is still far away.[/QUOTE]
I've used it (on my iphone and 3G dongle). TrueMove has recently expanded coverage in Pattaya too. 3G is available because it's in a trial phase and I think the companies are going [url=http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/telecom/188585/cat-relents-on-private-firms-3g-plans]through CAT[/url] and even though there's been complaints, and no official bidding, the network continues to grow and I don't see it stopping.
TrueMove has had 3G up and running for over a year now and I've been using it. [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1073372&postcount=6118]You should click those links I posted[/url] and you'll see the coverage map, etc. AIS offers 3G in Chonburi and parts of BKK for a higher price and less area coverage (doesn't have coverage in Pattaya)
Link: [url]http://www.ais.co.th/mobileinternet/Network.html[/url]
Also they state on their site:
[url]http://www.truemove.com/en/service-3g-4.html[/url]
"TrueMove is currently operating a 3G service on the 850 MHz frequency on a non-commercial trial basis and is waiting for approval to launch the service on a commercial basis. An auction will also be held by the government in the near future of 3G licenses on the 2.1 GHz frequency. "
On a side note - I mentioned Hutch in a previous post. I went into the shop yesterday and asked if their white EVDO dongle works in BKK. They said yes and it works around the BTS line and confirmed Nana, but when I was there along the BTS line it didn't work.
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2 Days in
Well so far, when I get to the hotel with the 2 companions that meet me at the airport, I did ST with one Tuk-ta one of the Kittens from Kitten Club. After that, showered up and wanted to check out Devils Den. There spoke to the guy running the place and filled me in on the deal here. I have a appointment with Gek and Bang in a couple of hours. Possibly looking for a religious experience. After talking to Devils Den manager, went to check out Champagne Agogo. BF a lady from there and she was very energetic (sorry don't remember name or number). We hit Lucifers, Angelwich and Misteys. Walking street is f'ing nuts.
Day 2 After waking up at 4pm mind you go for a 4th round with champagne girlie she takes off when I did some looking around as well as grab a bite at Beer Garden great food and place to meet. I do some bar hooping and scouting all the go-go's. Chatted up with Ao from Tiger. Very hot girl and talkative, but unfortunitely not possible to BF because she claims that her back was bothering her from an accident. Ok shit happens on to Baccara I go. Girls in here very hot in my opinion. Tried to chat up with a hot blonde girl, but she didn't seem interested so I just moved on to another joint. Interesting happens at next gogo, But I do not remember the name of the place. Later tonight I will walk by get the name. I have a warning for all of you.
Beaverhunter
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Little Sue sies
As I am staying at the LK Renaissance I have to walk up and down Soi Diana, Last night I stopped into a bar I have visited before, they seem to have more women than last year and prices for drinks are very reasonable. The bar is called little Susies and is mainly frequented by Englishmen. Met a really friendly nymphomaniac called Cai, teeth like a race horse but attractive none the less, she told me in no uncertain terms if I bar fine her I have to fuck her 5 times during the night. A really nice girl who truly loves boom boom.
Had a great time with her and bar fined her again tonight, I know I will not make the 5 times but she really tries to help you.
Attitude 10/10
Performance 9/10
Looks 6/10
Pussy tightness 9/10
BJ 8/10
May the force be with you.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]....amazing that the NY Times cannot get a simple definition straight. That is a tuk-tuk not a "samlor".[/QUOTE]To be fair, the terms are often used pretty interchangeably. If it has three wheels it is, by definition, a samlor.
Anyhow most people in that part of Isaan would call that model a "Skylab".
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Quick shave
Some sick bastard has just spoilt my fun, just had a jacuzzi with Cai. She said she could do with a quick trim, being the gent I am I pulled out my Braun rechargeable to mow the grass. She was terrified and wouldn't come anywhere near me, when I calmed her down she said it was shock machine!
Apparently a few weeks ago a guy came into the bar with what must have been one of the cheap stun guns they sell on beach road, he wanted somebody to try it out. I can imagine Cai would volunteer, any way she tried it out and is shit scared of anything that buzzes or is electric. I had to use a conventional razor on the landing strip. Never forget these girls are human beings, cattle prods are for cattle. I hope the sick bastard is not a subscriber to ISG.
May the force be with you.
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Secrets bar
On my maiden trip to Pattaya and LOS back i think in 2007 I stayed at secrets which was great. I think at that time it was new?
I visited the bar once but could never understand it. All the girls were in a corner with a bunch of guys. Nothing seemed to happen. It wasn't a go go, no mamasan. It looked like a bar for some chaste fun in Pattaya
I searched the forum and could not find any reviews on it.
What is it about/what is the rule here? Can you barfine? How does it work or is it all chaste as it looked to me in 2007?
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[QUOTE=Must Stop][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=2&ref=general&src=me[/url]
Worth reading for those visiting thailand for the first time. A lot is a rehash of what people have already mentioned in the forum. Just look at the quotes on what they are saying.[/QUOTE]Money can't buy love but it can definitely rent pussy.
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[QUOTE=Betong]To be fair, the terms are often used pretty interchangeably. If it has three wheels it is, by definition, a samlor.
Anyhow most people in that part of Isaan would call that model a "Skylab".[/QUOTE]Nope.
[url]http://www.3wheelers.com/tuktuk.html[/url]
[url]http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/~dwa/Samlor1.html[/url]
There is much citation on this. "samlor" does mean 3 wheels. But in common usage. The use of "samlor" is used for human powered tricycle. Invented by Loean Pongsopha. Tuk-Tuk is the motor driven one.
But that is the Skylab indeed!
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]the use of "samlor" is used for human powered tricycle....[/QUOTE]Or as a common abbreviation for สามล้อเครื่อง. If anyone wants to buy one, here's the website of one of the biggest manufacturers: [url]www.atipongmotor.com[/url]. (For the record they call it a สามล้อเครื่องสกายแลป or, on their English pages, 'Samlor Skylab'.) I especially like their newest model, the 'Obama USA'.
Can we now return to our regularly scheduled programming?
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Some posting etiquette
[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Outstanding! My plans exactly.[/QUOTE]
Oakwood (and others)
Please don't quote a entire humongous trip report just to make a one sentence comment. Actually, don't quote the whole thing for any reason.
No, I'm not the Administrator but it just makes sense.
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[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]...but in common usage...the use of "samlor" is used for human powered tricycle....invented by Loean Pongsopha. Tuk-Tuk is the motor driven one...[/QUOTE]The "human powered tricycle" is nowadays called "samlor thip" ("สามล้อถีบ") and when Thai people say only "samlor", they actually refer to the "samlor kruang" ("สามล้อเครื่อง") most of the time ("kruang" specifies that there is an engine in this context).
It's a little bit like the term "guitar". Nowadays, if someone says that he or she plays guitar, many people would think that it's an electric guitar (by default), if nothing else is added. Guitarists would often have to specify that their instrument is an acoustic guitar when it is not an electric one.
Nowadays, when nothing else is added, a "samlor" is (by default, in Thai people's mind) the "samlor kruang", not the "samlor thip".
A tuk-tuk is a different vehicle, even if it has also three wheels, you can notice (among other differences) that those wheels are shorter and wider on a tuk-tuk (on a "samlor thip", the wheels are similar to those of a bicycle, and on a "samlor kruang", they are like those of a motorcycle).
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Conclusion of night 2
The bar I ended up BF a girl was Living Dolls and the girls name is May. She has a small back tatoo as we as a tatoo and her left leg. Very thin girl. When BF her she informs me that she didn't know the BF price or a $ to charge me. So mamasan tells me 500 bht. and it's up to the girl about her price. This would be her first BF and all the girls and mamsan are happy for her. Anyway we agree to 1500 bht plus a tip if worthy of such. Long story short, what a pain in the ass. First she wouldn't shut the hell up about her family and life. Then back at the room she is very shy and nervous about sex being supposively her first BF. I get her relax and the her we go. She informs me that she never blew before and I am like wtf you kidding me. Ok we will work this it's like 4 am and I want to sleep. She tells me that she wants me to go all out on her and I do so without question for about 2 hours. Ok it's about 6 am and I want sleep, BUT she starts watching TV and calls her mom. I finally pass out maybe 7:30. At 9am, she wakes me shaking me saying she has to go and now. Now I am pissed and with pleasure agree that she must leave. I get dressed and throw her 1000 bht. With this she looks at me and is not happy. I told her look, you didn't want to suck. I am not getting a second hit at the puss and you kep me up all night with the tv and your phone calls. When I finally get to sleep you wake me up. So I said lets go and now. I led her down to the reception and basically throw her out the door.
Night 3 and tonight happens tomorrow
Beav.
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Return to Pattaya; Day 2
woke up at around 5:30 in the morning and wanted something to eat. i headed out to see if any breakfast joints were open only to run smack dab in the middle of the marine club and other joints that were either closing or looked to me to still be in full swing. i felt kind of underdressed in my shorts and t-shirt but decided to check things out anyway. again noticed a lot of what i suppose was russian chicks, many i had seen hours earlier the previous evening out on walking street who were by now looking very much the worse for wear. i noticed one of them, cute youngish looking blonde, giving me the eye but she appeared to be with a group of other women who were on the receiving end of a tongue lashing by another older member of their group. her look said "get me out of here" but i declined. russian chicks aside, there were plenty of other girls still hanging out who mostly seemed to be hardcore partying, drunk as hell, and looking for business, company, or both. i got propositioned by six thai gals who were all pretty little' stunners but i really wasn't in the mood, just wanted to eat.
i asked a guy leaving a bar with a hottie where the nearest breakfast joint was; he didn't know so i asked him what was with all these hot chicks still hanging out this time of the morning. he told me that many were girls getting off of work from the go-go getting their drunk on and now really ready to party! in essence, their shift over at the go go where they presumably don't drink much, they really cut loose after work; sort of like nyc cops who work the night shift then hit the cop bar at 6am. so this is an f. y. i to ya'll; check out the after hours joints near soi's 12-13 up those little alleys off of walking street for some off duty go-go hotties. that is if you don't mind waiting until 5 or 6 in the morning. it's also loud, very loud, so caveat emptor (sp?).
got some subway and hit the rack and woke up around 4pm to oum calling me to see if i wanted to see her. it was raining like a mother**cker which meant i wasn't going out so i told her to get a taxi to bring her cute little ass on over and a half hour later she was in my suite, naked and practicing her sword-swallowing act on my johnson. for some reason i was not really in the mood for a regular screw but just wanted to blow in her mouth but she wasn't up for it. she got me almost to the point that i must have squirted a little because she abruptly stopped slob- bobbing, looked at me kind of weird, then took a quick swig of water and reached for a condom. i asked her if she got "some" in her mouth and if she was ok; she just replied that it tasted sweet and put the condom on me. it was kind of a boring go this round since i wasn't really into it; we started and finished in missionary and i could tell by the way she was looking at me (over already?) that she didn't get her nut. didn't really care since i'm the one paying so she pretty much just showered and left. but not before she made me promise to call her again tomorrow (500baht btw).
rain had stopped so i showered and hit the streets to see what else was available. not much on beach road, probably due to the earlier weather but for some reason i had a hankering for a decent bbbj to cim. called a buddy and he suggested the bar u, lick me or something like that on soi 6. kind of put me off since i didn't want to do the lady drink or bar fine think but after recalling some of the reports about how relatively inexpensive the soi 6 places are, decided to relent and check it out. quick baht bus to the 6 found the place and was immediately picked up by a sweet little tight body named nit who led me into the bar where i ordered a double gin and tonic from the world weary looking dude behind the bar. oh yea, while this was going on, nit was busy unzipping my shorts, reaching in and stroking jr all in front of the other customer at the bar and the bartender, each of which i suppose did not give two shits. i however wasn't cool so nit led me over to a darkened room off to the side behind some beads. we sat on the couch and she proceeded to continue her earlier ministrations. she didn't say much other than comments about how big my "little brother" was getting and i think was almost about to give me head right then and there but i stopped her and asked about short time and where to get some privacy. at first i though she said 1000 baht but i heard her wrong because when i said "what? " she explained 300 for the bar fine and 400 for the lady; 700 baht! what! really?! i asked her again for clarification and she repeated the same figures so i said wtf and went for it. then i thought more about it and my friend did tell me that the place was mainly for blowjobs so i guess that explains what i figure are lower prices.
anyway, went out the back and into another door that led to a very steep staircase that i sort of worried how nit would safely navigate in her porno/stripper high heels. we safely got to the top and into a modestly furnisher room; bed, towels, couple of pillows and a tv set. we got undressed and just the sight of her tight little naked body was almost enough to end if for me then and there! she took out some wet knaps and began cleaning little' man while at the same time licking and sucking my nipples. after about a minute of this i lie down on the bed and she got to work licking balls, ass, and sucking shaft. man oh man this girl knows what she is doing! she started kind of slow and increased her speed by gauging my reactions. she even tried to deep throat me to the hilt! she twisted her head back and forth on the head while using her hands to jerk the shaft; this was real porno sucking only minus all that bullshit spitting and gagging. after awhile she began moaning exxxstatically as if fellatio was the most wonderful thing she could be doing! i mean this girl really got into it! i was about to blow but wanted to try something first; asked her to stop for a minute and if we could try anal, she asked how much i'd give her for the ass and i told her another 400 for at least trying (not bragging when i say i have a biggun' and if she did manage to get it in, she'd be earning it and to be honest, i'd probably give her more).
i watch as she ky's first my now condom covered cock and then she flips over on all fours and lubes up her tight little rosebud of an asshole. she then takes hold of my dick then slowly backs her ass onto it, she takes a deep gasp as first the tip pushes its way in then lets out a yelp as the rest slowly follows. i have as yet to do anything on my own; at this point she is doing all the work. once i'm pretty all the way up her ass i begin a slow rhythmic pumping as she also pushes back. it was hot and tight and i had to spread her cheeks to see my johnson disappearing up her rectum because i couldn't believe she took it. she lay on her stomach and began sucking my fingers as i pounded her asshole. as good as it felt, i still for some reason wanted to finish with the cim so after a few more minutes i stopped, pulled out and told her what i wanted. she took the condom off wiped my dick off with another wet knap and recommenced her previous suck job. as can probably be guessed i didn't last too much longer and finally got my wish by blasting a right and proper full load into her mouth of which she did not miss a drop! she get sucking and stroking until she was sure i was spent then took my john thomson out of her mouth and before doing anything else, wiped me off. since i didn't see her spit it out yet, i was watching to see what she did with the cum. i'm still not sure because i asked her a question about something and first she began talking with her mouth full but then when we were getting ready to hit the shower, i noticed she was talking normally. i didn't see her spit it out nor anywhere she could have so i think she accidentally swallowed my load while trying to talk with it still in.
she washed me in the shower and remarkably enough, began sucking me again! i could not believe it and had to stop her, telling her that she was killing me and taking all my power. she tried it a couple of more times as we were getting dress and seemed to get a kick out of getting me hard again. of all the girls i've been with over here i have never met one as enthusiastic about bj's as this girl! anyway, i gave her a 600 baht tip since she swallowed and seemed to enjoy what she was doing, told her i'd see her again tomorrow then left.
i ended up hitting walking street from there since it is on the way back to my hotel and got caught in the rain. took shelter at one of the bars there and sat next to a white chick who was sitting alone. she was fairly attractive, 5, 2, probably mid 30's, nice figure, brunette with brown eyes. she was drinking what i guessed was a crčme de menthe shot along with a beer so seeing an open, asked her what the green drink was. in a thick russian accent she replied "mint" and if i would like to try some? i told her she could keep hers since it was almost finished but i'd like to do another shot with her to which she agreed and i ordered up. after the shots she asked me what i was doing in thailand and i told her vacation, when asked her she said she was here on business. i then asked her what business she was in to which she looked at me and replied "fucking, dahlink". i jokingly then asked if she was buying or selling and that got a laugh. i told her i was interested in her business and how much an investment would be; 1500 baht for st.
now i really wasn't t that horny since blowing my load a half hour earlier but i never had any of these russian (or anything else but asian) in pattaya and something told me to give this a whirl. i agreed to her price, we get a moped taxi then head to my suite. get there and she wants to smoke first and have a drink so i fix us both some g&t's and she proceeds to tell me a little about herself; name's natalya, from kiev, has one daughter, been in thailand for two years. she bugs me about why i'm still single and paying for p**sy; i tell her i'm not really paying for the p**sy per se', but rather for the lady to kindly leave once i'm done with it. she laughs and we retire to the bedroom, she strips revealing a decent looking body; about a 7 i'd say.
we rub our naked bodies against each other then she pushes my head down between her legs for some daty action. i oblige but i have a two minute limit when i'm paying so when the time was up, suckled her teats before lying on my back with my willie pointing to the ceiling begging for some attention. she got the hint and began a decent bb bj but i guess she has the same two minute rule because she quickly finished then reached for the condom.
condom on and i started humping away. she was a good lay; loud and moaning things in russian, maybe cursing. she pushes me out and flips over on her hands and knees and we begin a vigorous and rough doggie style screw that brought her to orgasm and me to pain. i rolled her back over for missionary and begin a nice steady rhythm. after a few minutes i could feel climax approaching then she muttered something into my ear that i thought was "f*ck me". i didn't think much of it because she had said it already many times before but she repeated louder and what she actually said was "[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me". i actually stopped humping and said "what, you want me to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] you? " "yes, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] me! " now i have no idea how, or desire to, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] anyone, willing or not, so i just winged it and talked dirty while banging her really hard. truth be told, she kind of put me off when she said that but i still managed to bust a nut by putting her legs over my shoulders and watching her eyes roll back into her head.
afterwards she started smoking again, i'm a non-smoker and the smell makes me sick, and was taking forever to leave. i really wanted her out of there since it was coming up on 04:30 and she was stinking up the joint with cig smoke so told her i was getting ready to sleep. she got the hint but wasn't too happy about being rushed. i told her that she was the one who said short time and that is all i wanted, i also reminded her about the earlier reason i told her about paying the ladies to leave, not stay. she actually laughed but got dressed and shortly left.. so i'm down a bit of baht today and had i stopped at just screwing oum i would have only spent 500.. i'm still a believer in popper's philosophy but my own particular quirks and cravings forced me to do otherwise. all in all and expensive day (3800 baht) given my original budgetary intent but no regrets due to the insinuating circumstances; rain, unexpected enthusiastic bbbj/cim/swallow, and unexpected russian chick.
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Is the bar in the Penthouse Hotel a Katooey bar?
I popped in there earlier to dodge the rain, have a drink and check the place out for a possible future stay but it seemed to me that except for the ladies at the door, most of the dancers there were ladyboys.
To each their own but they really should let people know if this is the case, especially since the banner ads on this site don't give any indication (I was hoping to see chicks like the one one in the advert pic). They should at least ask a customer's preference at the door; I ended up leaving without drinking anything after being surrounded and sat on by three katooeys.
Again; I have nothing against them or those that like em', I just don't get the whole assumption by them that just any straight man looking for girls is just going to say eff it and accept and desire them as women. Maybe they figure nothing ventured, nothing gained?
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A Surreal Conversation with a Bar Girl
This conversation took place in a Pattaya bar with coyote dancers and hostesses. The characters are me (EP) and one of the dancers (D)
Scene: A bar I won't name, around 11 p.m. in the evening. I'm sitting in a corner, talking to several hostesses. During her off-stage time, D comes over uninvited and sits next to me.
D: I want you bar fine me tonight.
EP: That's a nice introduction. I'm happy to meet you, too.
D: What you say?
EP: I don't think I have met you before.
D: You talk to me two nights before.
EP: I don't think so.
D: You too drunk. Not remember.
EP: I wasn't drunk enough to not remember you.
D: You say hello, watch me dance.
EP: Oh, a one-word conversation.
D: What you say?
EP: We didn't talk long.
D: Not long, but you watch me dance.
EP: Did I like it?
D: Yes
EP: I'm glad you're so clear on the details of our relationship.
D: What you say?
EP: You remember many things I don't.
D: Never mind. I want you bar fine me.
EP: And how much do you want to stay overnight?
D: 5,000 baht.
EP: That's optimistic.
D: What you say?
EP: You are feeling lucky tonight. Are you joking?
D: You think I joking? I not joking.
EP: I don't think you are joking. (I then put on an exaggerated sad face)
D: (After a pause) Why sad?
EP: I don't think you like me.
D: Why you say that?
EP: Lady sometimes says silly money to make man go away if she not like him.
D: I like you.
EP: No, I go away now.
D: OK. 4,000 baht.
EP: Chek bin
D: ...For two ladies
EP: Two ladies???? What two ladies?
D: Me, friend (points to one of the hostesses)
EP: I don't see.
D: She there (pointing)
EP: I don't see
D: She THERE!
EP: (pretending I don't see) You are the only lady I see in this bar. (then a big smile)
D: Bakwahn!
EP: If my breath reeked of vinegar, you would still be the only lady for me in this bar, in all of Pattaya. (gesturing broadly)
D: What you say?
EP: If I had drunk a bottle of vinegar, you would still be the only lady for me.
D: What vinegar?
EP: Very sour, put on food, cannot have sweet mouth if drink.
D: You tingtong.
EP: But I have a good time.
D: (laughing) I tingtong too. I like tingtong man.
EP: Maybe I am not tingtong enough to bar fine you.
D: I want you bar fine me.
EP: And how much do you want to stay overnight?
D: You only want one lady?
EP: Yes, only you.
D: You bar fine many ladies before. Friend tell me you bar fine five one time. Why you Cheap Charlie tonight?
EP: (in a sterner tone) I am getting tired of this conversation.
D: OK, OK. (names a reasonable price)
EP: I'll think about it.
D: Why you think? You think too much! I only joking before.
EP: I worry it not be so good for me - you talk too many strange things.
D: I tingtong! (laughing) But it good for you.
EP: Maybe I am really tingtong, but OK, I do it.
And it was very good! She stayed with me for about a week.
I can't imagine the above conversation taking place anywhere but a bar in Thailand. It's one of the reasons I love my vacations in LOS.
This little episode also illustrates some advice I got all the way back in 1979: if the girl suggests an absurd price, it is her way of rejecting a customer without causing him to lose face. Instead of saying, "You're so repulsive I can't bring myself to fuck you even for money," she says "3,000 baht" (or 4,000 or 5,000, whatever). That way, the customer rejects her and no face is lost.
For me, there's also a difference between settling the price in advance and negotiating the price. I never negotiate, but I do make sure she doesn't expect a silly price. If she does, I'll call chek bin. Should she respond by immediately lowering her price to a reasonable level, I might (MIGHT) take a chance on her. But I never try to bargain her down.
Evil
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]For me, there's also a difference between settling the price in advance and negotiating the price. I never negotiate, but I do make sure she doesn't expect a silly price. If she does, I'll call chek bin. Should she respond by immediately lowering her price to a reasonable level, I might (MIGHT) take a chance on her. But I never try to bargain her down.[/QUOTE]I use a similar strategy. I would more so say though that I don't haggle. If I receive a price higher than my target price I just look at the girl like she is crazy and say, "Okay, now be serious." I let her come down on her own until she reaches my target. If she is nowhere near it I just find someone else. If I do mention an amount then it is only my target amount. Example: She says 2500. I say 1000. She says 2000. I repeat with 1000. She eventually understands that I'm not moving from 1000. She can agree or not. If not, then I just walk away and look for somebody else. If you have to do too much haggling then you are probably in for a shitty time so it's best to find someone else anyway.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I use a similar strategy. I would more so say though that I don't haggle. If I receive a price higher than my target price I just look at the girl like she is crazy and say, "Okay, now be serious." I let her come down on her own until she reaches my target. If she is nowhere near it I just find someone else. If I do mention an amount then it is only my target amount. Example: She says 2500. I say 1000. She says 2000. I repeat with 1000. She eventually understands that I'm not moving from 1000. She can agree or not. If not, then I just walk away and look for somebody else. If you have to do too much haggling then you are probably in for a shitty time so it's best to find someone else anyway.[/QUOTE]
Hummm ... sounds like negotiating to me ... :)
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nah - negotiation is "give and take" then a meeting of the price. This was "take it or leave it - mai ben rai"
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Secrets
[QUOTE=Must Stop]On my maiden trip to Pattaya and LOS back i think in 2007 I stayed at secrets which was great. I think at that time it was new?
I visited the bar once but could never understand it. All the girls were in a corner with a bunch of guys. Nothing seemed to happen. It wasn't a go go, no mamasan. It looked like a bar for some chaste fun in Pattaya
I searched the forum and could not find any reviews on it.
What is it about/what is the rule here? Can you barfine? How does it work or is it all chaste as it looked to me in 2007?[/QUOTE]I bar fined a little sweetie from there in dec./09. Seems much like a beer bar with dancers. Very regimented. Fines if they are a few mins. late. Must pay to get day off. Kept in touch with her my 2 months there. If she stayed with me she would have to drop off bar fine by a certain time. Although she had been married and had a 8 year old back home in the north she seem a bit naive with sex. I bought a massager at Royal Garden and placed it on her pussy. In about 15 seconds she came so hard she thought she had had a heart attack.
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[QUOTE=SirHumpsaLott]I popped in there earlier to dodge the rain, have a drink and check the place out for a possible future stay but it seemed to me that except for the ladies at the door, most of the dancers there were ladyboys.
To each their own but they really should let people know if this is the case, especially since the banner ads on this site don't give any indication (I was hoping to see chicks like the one one in the advert pic). They should at least ask a customer's preference at the door; I ended up leaving without drinking anything after being surrounded and sat on by three katooeys...[/QUOTE]The Penthouse Hotel advertises one of its clubs (Pattaya Obsessions) as the "Pattaya's Premiere Ladyboy venue". Actually, Kitten Club and Obsessions are two go-go bars in one. They each have their own entrance but they lead to the same bar. This has been discussed earlier in several threads and posts (some of them were deleted, but the information is still available, for instance here: [post]1014775[/post]).
By the way, if you move your mouse pointer over their banner advertisement, you should be able to read the following "... Kitten Club girls and Pattaya Obsessions LBs...", with "LBs" meaning "Labyboys", of course!
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Just curious
Any African tail to be had here?
(I figure if there's Russian, then?)
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[QUOTE=Beaverhunter]... Anyway we agree to 1500 bht plus a tip if worthy of such...
... I get dressed and throw her 1000 bht. With this she looks at me and is not happy...[/QUOTE]Even if she probably did not deserve more than 1000 baht, you agreed to give her at least 1500 baht, so, you should have given this amount... unless, of course, if you have made it very clear beforehand that you expect certain services from your girl and a minimum of intercourses with her during the night. If you didn't specify anything clearly enough, then, it's understandable that she was not happy and I would not (totally) blame her, especially as she is apparently pretty new to the game, at least, in Pattaya... and it's better for you, because she probably doesn't know yet too much people there.
Be very careful, because many foreigners have been beaten up for lesser than that. If a working girl explains to her Thai male friends that you did not pay the agreed price (especially if she believes that it was unfair), they will certainly consider that it is a reason good enough to teach you a "Muay Thai lesson" of their own!
For your information, many services that are considered as the norm for the foreigners are not yet a common practice for the local P4P girls who have not spent much time in tourist-oriented places. For instance, a blowjob (covered or not) is often considered as an extra in the local brothels catering mostly to Thai punters and it is not always on the menu. Even if the situation is improving to this respect, probably more than 50% of the younger providers refuse to perform it or suck (pun intended) at it in the local brothels of Isan (Northeastern Thailand, the region of origin of most of the girls working in Pattaya and other tourist-oriented places in Thailand).
Of course, a girl who has already worked some time in Pattaya would know what services a foreigner usually expects, but I'm pretty sure that your provider did not have a clue when you made the deal, hence the misunderstanding and her disappointment.
It's just a friendly advice, but IMHO, things should be clarified beforehand. The more, the better. Any single thing that is not specified clearly enough may be the source of some trouble later. But you should give the benefit of the doubt to your provider, and if you haven't been specific enough, just pay the agreed amount. A 500 baht difference is not worth the trouble that you could have if the girl is angry and has a few local male friends...
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Thanks for the clarification
[QUOTE=Goyave]The Penthouse Hotel advertises one of its clubs (Pattaya Obsessions) as the "Pattaya's Premiere Ladyboy venue". Actually, Kitten Club and Obsessions are two go-go bars in one. They each have their own entrance but they lead to the same bar. This has been discussed earlier in several threads and posts (some of them were deleted, but the information is still available, for instance here: [post]1014775[/post]).
By the way, if you move your mouse pointer over their banner advertisement, you should be able to read the following "... Kitten Club girls and Pattaya Obsessions LBs...", with "LBs" meaning "Labyboys", of course![/QUOTE]I kind of figured that I was missing something. Now that I know the real deal I'll be sure to check it out again with "fresh eyes".
Thanks again,
SH
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Even if she probably did not deserve more than 1000 baht, you agreed to give her at least 1500 baht, so, you should have given this amount... unless, of course, if you have made it very clear beforehand that you expect certain services from your girl and a minimum of intercourses with her during the night. If you didn't specify anything clearly enough, then, it's understandable that she was not happy and I would not (totally) blame her, especially as she is apparently pretty new to the game, at least, in Pattaya... and it's better for you, because she probably doesn't know yet too much people there.
Be very careful, because many foreigners have been beaten up for lesser than that. If a working girl explains to her Thai male friends that you did not pay the agreed price (especially if she believes that it was unfair), they will certainly consider that it is a reason good enough to teach you a "Muay Thai lesson" of their own!
For your information, many services that are considered as the norm for the foreigners are not yet a common practice for the local P4P girls who have not spent much time in tourist-oriented places. For instance, a blowjob (covered or not) is often considered as an extra in the local brothels catering mostly to Thai punters and it is not always on the menu. Even if the situation is improving to this respect, probably more than 50% of the younger providers refuse to perform it or suck (pun intended) at it in the local brothels of Isan (Northeastern Thailand, the region of origin of most of the girls working in Pattaya and other tourist-oriented places in Thailand).
Of course, a girl who has already worked some time in Pattaya would know what services a foreigner usually expects, but I'm pretty sure that your provider did not have a clue when you made the deal, hence the misunderstanding and her disappointment.
It's just a friendly advice, but IMHO, things should be clarified beforehand. The more, the better. Any single thing that is not specified clearly enough may be the source of some trouble later. But you should give the benefit of the doubt to your provider, and if you haven't been specific enough, just pay the agreed amount. A 500 baht difference is not worth the trouble that you could have if the girl is angry and has a few local male friends...[/QUOTE]I don't blame him for giving her 1k, a LT session should Include sex In the morning mininum, otherwise It's just a ST, my mate and me had the same situation from two gogo dancers once, they hatched a plan by phone at 6am, woke us up fully dressed, saying they must go now to temple, ok sure no problem, I gave my girl 1k note, she say not enough for LT, I told her It not LT, I should of charged her for sleeping In my room, her friend come to my room, and tell me my friend gave her 1500b, BS I know him, didn't even need to call him, just waved them bye bye, have nice day at temple.
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[QUOTE=Jerboa]I don't blame him for giving her 1k, a LT session should Include sex In the morning mininum, otherwise It's just a ST...[/QUOTE]Apparently, he did not require sex in the morning (he might have gotten it provided that he asked for it, but he wanted to get rid of the girl then). His girl was (apparently again) a complete newbie here, so, she very likely never had a LT session with a foreigner before and probably did not know what is the "standard" modus operandi in Pattaya. Many things went wrong in this case, but, with all due respect and IMHO, not only because of this girl. For instance, if you are tired and want to sleep, you just have to say it to the girl, then switch off the lights and turn the TV off. It's just that easy!
Anyway, my point is that a little bit more communication and some discussion beforehand about his desiderata would not have hurt (especially with a girl that is pretty new to the game), again IMHO, and would have helped to prevent some disappointment for both parties.
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I agreee with the 1K dismissal, it is clear the girl was lazy and unwilling to please, then all deals are off, giving less is right and hopefully she learns the lesson.
That happened to me more than once and in my experience the girls understood where their fault was, and were OK with reducent compensation.
Yesterday I brought in two chicks for a little three-party action. that was not bad in the beginning, but as it happens, one quickly lost the will and wanted to go after just one round. Promised money was 1K each for "long time", at that point I wanted to give 500 only, the other girls interceded for 700, so that's what I gave, no bad feelings, and off she went still smiling.
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I agreee with the 1K dismissal, it is clear the girl was lazy and unwilling to please, then all deals are off, giving less is right and hopefully she learns the lesson...[/QUOTE]IMHO, the initial deal was not specific enough in this case. Remember that the girl was a complete newbie and she did stay the whole night. I'm not sure that she really was "lazy and unwilling to please", but she surely did not have much experience (if any) with foreigners before this night. That's why (IMHO), more things should have been clarified beforehand (what will be the services provided and those that won't be offered, how many shots will be allowed, at what time will the session end, etc.).
It's not exactly the same case than when an experienced working girl leaves your room almost immediately after only one round. With an experienced girl who already knows the ropes, I too would not give as much money than for a real LT session if the girl wants to leave after just one shot.
But in this case, it is not entirely the girl's fault (again, IMHO): at least, there was not enough clarification beforehand with a girl who is apparently a complete newbie in Pattaya. And our fellow ISG member could have managed (again IMHO) the time spent with her more efficiently. He's probably a nice guy and a gentleman with the working girls, but he must remain the boss in his own room and don't let his guest watching TV and making phone calls when he wants to sleep! Of course, it should be explained politely, calmly, but firmly, and it's usually well-understood then.
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US Navy in town?
Hi
Stickman reports that the US Navy is due to be in town 'from the end of this month'.
I'd rather avoid this. Does anyone know the precise dates they're due to arrive and leave?
Thanks in advance.
A
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Navy
[QUOTE=Artful]Hi
Stickman reports that the US Navy is due to be in town 'from the end of this month'.
I'd rather avoid this. Does anyone know the precise dates they're due to arrive and leave?
Thanks in advance.
A[/QUOTE]Hotel rooms seem to be heavily booked from 30 Sept to 8 Oct so I suspect that is your answer.
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[QUOTE=Must Stop]On my maiden trip to Pattaya and LOS back i think in 2007 I stayed at secrets which was great. I think at that time it was new?
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What is it about/what is the rule here? Can you barfine? How does it work or is it all chaste as it looked to me in 2007?[/QUOTE]Secrets is a hostess bar with coyotee dancers. The girls - whether hostess or dancer - who wear green lanyards around their necks can be barfined. Red lanyards, worn by the service staff, mean "no go."
Otherwise, it fucntions like everywhere else - meet the lady, talk with her and ask if she'd like to go with you. If she says "yes," you pay the bar fine and reach agreement with her on the compensation for her services.
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]Secrets is a hostess bar with coyotee dancers. The girls - whether hostess or dancer - who wear green lanyards around their necks can be barfined. Red lanyards, worn by the service staff, mean "no go."
Otherwise, it fucntions like everywhere else - met the lady, talk with her and ask if she'd like to go with you. If she says "yes," you pay the bar fine and reach agreement with her on the compensation for her services.
Evil[/QUOTE]Thanks, things must have changed, no dancers when I was there.
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[QUOTE=SirHumpsaLott]I popped in there earlier to dodge the rain, have a drink and check the place out for a possible future stay but it seemed to me that except for the ladies at the door, most of the dancers there were ladyboys.
To each their own but they really should let people know if this is the case, especially since the banner ads on this site don't give any indication (I was hoping to see chicks like the one one in the advert pic). They should at least ask a customer's preference at the door; I ended up leaving without drinking anything after being surrounded and sat on by three katooeys.
Again; I have nothing against them or those that like em', I just don't get the whole assumption by them that just any straight man looking for girls is just going to say eff it and accept and desire them as women. Maybe they figure nothing ventured, nothing gained?[/QUOTE]It is both girls and lady boys
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[QUOTE=Must Stop]Thanks, things must have changed, no dancers when I was there.[/QUOTE]I went into Secrets about 4-weeks ago and they certainly had dancers. Poor layout if you sit at the bar though, too many blind spots.
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[QUOTE=Booey] I met one girl who taught herself English by watching movies on TV that had Thai subtitles. Her English is quite good and she tries to study her English language books a little bit everyday. She even reads and writes English quite well.[/QUOTE]That proves once more how it is possible for everyone to change things around and be ahead of the much competition. I hope this girl will be rewarded for her tenacity, unlike all the lazy bodies sitting there doing nothing all day, hoping for a dick with a wallet to come in rescue every day.
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]That proves once more how it is possible for everyone to change things around and be ahead of the much competition. I hope this girl will be rewarded for her tenacity, unlike all the lazy bodies sitting there doing nothing all day, hoping for a dick with a wallet to come in rescue every day.[/QUOTE]Her feat is admirable but despite her self-motivation and English proficiency where would she market herself to get ahead of the "competition" and a better paying job over the girls you’re deriding? It’s not like there’s a viable economic market out there for uneducated Thai girls who can speak English. Laziness is not always the reason these uneducated girls turn pro. Given their overall situation, in many cases turning pro is optimal in their survival.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Her feat is admirable but despite her self-motivation and English proficiency where would she market herself to get ahead of the "competition" and a better paying job over the girls you’re deriding? It’s not like there’s a viable economic market out there for uneducated Thai girls who can speak English. Laziness is not always the reason these uneducated girls turn pro. Given their overall situation, in many cases turning pro is optimal in their survival.[/QUOTE]RM, I am perfectly aware of the job situation in Thailand, all I meant to say is that I whish she builds an advantage over the other sex workers while staying in her current profession, gain more loyal customers and possibly a sponsor in the future. Maybe I am partial to self-taught people being one myself.
BTW I am not deriding anybody in saying that, and I think everybody will agree that there is a great deal of laziness among TGs.
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]RM, I am perfectly aware of the job situation in Thailand, all I meant to say is that I whish she builds an advantage over the other sex workers while staying with the her current profession, get more loyals customers and possibly a sponsor in the future. BTW I am not deriding anybody in saying that, that there is a great deal of laziness amoing TGs, that I think everybody will agree.[/QUOTE]Your comment about [b]"hoping for a dick with a wallet to come in rescue every day" [/b] is derisive and upon reflection you may grasp why it was a cheap and unnecessary shot.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]Your comment about [b]"hoping for a dick with a wallet to come in rescue every day" [/b] is derisive and upon reflection you may grasp why it was a cheap and unnecessary shot.[/QUOTE]Derisive for us the walking dicks perhaps ?
What I grasp easily is that you suffer of excessive mental stiffness, and feel the urge to defend who I did not ever attacked.
Needless to say, if you don't like me or my writing, that is what the ignore list is for (you are on mine already), but please spare us further quibbling over nothing.
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Good Advice!
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]
This little episode also illustrates some advice I got all the way back in 1979: if the girl suggests an absurd price, it is her way of rejecting a customer without causing him to lose face. Instead of saying, "You're so repulsive I can't bring myself to fuck you even for money," she says "3,000 baht" (or 4,000 or 5,000, whatever). That way, the customer rejects her and no face is lost.
For me, there's also a difference between settling the price in advance and negotiating the price. I never negotiate, but I do make sure she doesn't expect a silly price. If she does, I'll call chek bin. Should she respond by immediately lowering her price to a reasonable level, I might (MIGHT) take a chance on her. But I never try to bargain her down.
Evil[/QUOTE]Good advice I think even for *experienced* guys!
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]Derisive for us the walking dicks perhaps ?
What I grasp easily is that you suffer of excessive mental stiffness, and feel the urge to defend who I did not ever attacked.
Needless to say, if you don't like me or my writing, that is what the ignore list is for, but please spare us further quibbling over nothing.[/QUOTE]Heed your own advice and thanks for your swift, long distance diagnosis "doc". Love posters like you who when challenge and can’t advance their nonsensical points on the merits resort to garbage like this.
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[QUOTE=Satyr9]I was under the impression that bar fines and lady drinks are de rigeur and unavoidable.
Popper1 writes: BFs and LDs are for Noobs, Suckers, and Tourists.
As an official noob and tourist who is trying mostly not to be a sucker in life, I would like to know how you avoid these things?[/QUOTE]You can avoid these things for instance if you favor encounters with freelancers or with girls working in the local brothels. By the way, it is "de rig[b]u[/b]eur" in French.
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The question I have is who in the hell walks around Pattaya with a taser in their hand?
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Agreed.
I have a Thai ladyfriend, yea I have taken her, and not taken her and just chilled in BKK eating outside with her. And she is quite noticeable because she is slim(no kids) and somewhat big breasts. She basically quotes guys she does not consider the least bit good looking 5000+, she figures well if he is very pom pooey, and going to pay that, she can be done in 15 minutes and go home for the night.
You can learn alot from the ladies, if you just talk to them one on one as a person, free Thai teacher. LOL
[quote]This little episode also illustrates some advice I got all the way back in 1979: if the girl suggests an absurd price, it is her way of rejecting a customer without causing him to lose face. Instead of saying, "You're so repulsive I can't bring myself to fuck you even for money, " she says "3, 000 baht" (or 4, 000 or 5, 000, whatever). That way, the customer rejects her and no face is lost.
For me, there's also a difference between settling the price in advance and negotiating the price. I never negotiate, but I do make sure she doesn't expect a silly price. If she does, I'll call chek bin. Should she respond by immediately lowering her price to a reasonable level, I might (MIGHT) take a chance on her. But I never try to bargain her down.
Evil[/QUOTE]
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Thread Cleanup
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I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise worthless posts by [b]Masterplan[/b], as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.
This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.
In addition, [b]Masterplan[/b] has been erased and banned from the forum, and all IP addresses used by him have been recorded in my "Troublemaker's Database" for identification of future aliases.
Thanks,
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Thanks Jackson
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Yanks Are Coming
From Pattaya Mail; 1/10/10
[QUOTE] Pattaya welcomes USS George Washington and support ships
US Carrier group arriving this weekend
The aircraft carrier USS George Washington (CVN 73), USS Cowpens (CG 63), and USS McCampbell (DDG 85) are scheduled to arrive at Laem Chabang Port on Saturday, October 2, at 9:00 a.m.
The US Carrier group is here on a goodwill visit that will further enhance the strong historic ties between the United States and the Kingdom of Thailand through community relations projects and professional exchanges between U.S. and Royal Thai Navy counterparts.
Whilst here, activities include giving sailors a chance to meet and chat with orphans at Baan Jing Jai Home Banglamung. Sailors also will paint the Baan Khao Chi Chan School Sattahip and interact with students there, paint the Mafacthong School Banglamung and chat with students there, repair and paint the Huay Yai School, meet and chat with students at the Blind School Pattaya, improve the grounds at the Elderly Age Home Banglamung by planting flowers and plants, clean up the Karunwet Disabled Home in Banglamung, and repair and paint the Jitapawan Temple. [/QUOTE]
As much as I wish them all well, it's too bad they aren't going to Bangkok.
I doubt that their activities will be limited to chatting with orphans, painting schools and temples.
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So...
[QUOTE=Goyave]You can avoid these things for instance if you favor encounters with freelancers or with girls working in the local brothels. By the way, it is "de rig[b]u[/b]eur" in French.[/QUOTE]...bar fines MUST be paid in bars with mamasans and shows, correct?
Thanks for correcting my typo.
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Went dancing
Had a night in Bamboo with my regular, drinks about 100 baht each but a good band. Had a great time, different from the normal routine of picking a bar or agogo, lots of decent looking women in the place prowling for victims. Not sure of the pricing arrangements but you don't need to pay a bar fine. The band played YMCA and the dance floor was full of 50-60 year old John Travoltas making real cunts of themselves but who cares great laugh.
Went back a couple of nights later with 4 ladies I bar fined from the same bar, when I told them I was going dancing virtually the whole bar wanted to come, I said I would take no more than four. I have never had my cock stroked as much as they were desperate to come. Walked in Bamboo like James Bond 2 girls on each arm, treated like royalty by the staff there, Thailand is all about status my status must have looked good. Got shit loads of attention from girls who weren't in my "party" they must have thought something was going on and they wanted to be part of it.
Could have fucked anyone of the 4 or more likely all 4, just had the one.
Damage; 4 bar fines 1200 baht, 4 rounds of drinks around 2000baht so about Ł65 well spent!
May the force be with you.
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LSW
Nice report, well done.
Edited, Solly, I was thinking of Bamboo Bangkok, not Bamboo Pattaya near to Walking St, not had a drink either:)
Have deleted Bamboo Bangkok text.
Only 6 weeks to go till next visit :)
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No big deal...
[QUOTE=Daddy07]From Pattaya Mail; 1/10/10
As much as I wish them all well, it's too bad they aren't going to Bangkok.
I doubt that their activities will be limited to chatting with orphans, painting schools and temples.[/QUOTE]Cobra operations were taking place last time I was in Pattaya.
It doesn't really make a dent on the availability of women.
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Lazy and?
[QUOTE=New Old Guy]RM, I am perfectly aware of the job situation in Thailand, all I meant to say is that I whish she builds an advantage over the other sex workers while staying in her current profession, gain more loyal customers and possibly a sponsor in the future. Maybe I am partial to self-taught people being one myself.
BTW I am not deriding anybody in saying that, and I think everybody will agree that there is a great deal of laziness among TGs.[/QUOTE]I agree with both. As I have had several thai gfs. Now I have six filipina gfs.
And many of these girls are lazy. But its the girls that I tend to like are the ones that do not have as much opportunity. But for instance. One girl that I support. Hot and 19 yo. I ask her for massage and after five minutes she says she is tired? My fault for letting her get away with it but she does perform well in bed.
I think many similarities with thai and filipinas. I am in Thailand now with my number one filipina girl.
Looking for some hot thai girls.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]Even if she probably did not deserve more than 1000 baht, you agreed to give her at least 1500 baht, so, you should have given this amount... unless, of course, if you have made it very clear beforehand that you expect certain services from your girl and a minimum of intercourses with her during the night. If you didn't specify anything clearly enough, then, it's understandable that she was not happy and I would not (totally) blame her, especially as she is apparently pretty new to the game, at least, in Pattaya... and it's better for you, because she probably doesn't know yet too much people there.
Be very careful, because many foreigners have been beaten up for lesser than that. If a working girl explains to her Thai male friends that you did not pay the agreed price (especially if she believes that it was unfair), they will certainly consider that it is a reason good enough to teach you a "Muay Thai lesson" of their own!
For your information, many services that are considered as the norm for the foreigners are not yet a common practice for the local P4P girls who have not spent much time in tourist-oriented places. For instance, a blowjob (covered or not) is often considered as an extra in the local brothels catering mostly to Thai punters and it is not always on the menu. Even if the situation is improving to this respect, probably more than 50% of the younger providers refuse to perform it or suck (pun intended) at it in the local brothels of Isan (Northeastern Thailand, the region of origin of most of the girls working in Pattaya and other tourist-oriented places in Thailand).
Of course, a girl who has already worked some time in Pattaya would know what services a foreigner usually expects, but I'm pretty sure that your provider did not have a clue when you made the deal, hence the misunderstanding and her disappointment.
It's just a friendly advice, but IMHO, things should be clarified beforehand. The more, the better. Any single thing that is not specified clearly enough may be the source of some trouble later. But you should give the benefit of the doubt to your provider, and if you haven't been specific enough, just pay the agreed amount. A 500 baht difference is not worth the trouble that you could have if the girl is angry and has a few local male friends...[/QUOTE]
I see your point and thanks for the warning and advice. Next time around myself and the lady will discuss services rendered and set price, but you have no idea how annoying she was and how fustrated I was.
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[QUOTE=Redfield10]Cobra operations were taking place last time I was in Pattaya. It doesn't really make a dent on the availability of women.[/QUOTE]In the old days when the US military came in, you'd come down to breakfast and find even your waitress gone. But these days the scene in Pattaya is so huge it could swallow the entire 7th Fleet and not even burp. I always tell people not even to worry about it.
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Yep....
Exactly. I mean when I was there earlier this year (or maybe it was last October) the COBRA operations were going on. You'd see some well-behaved young gentleman walking around (always escorted) and actually, I don't think the stereotype that they all "participate" is accurate.
I think they walk around and gawk at the girls and I'm sure some partake, but I don't think it's like 95% of them are all screwing multiple girls in Pattaya. In fact, I'd say the percentage that participate is much smaller than most people think.
Anyway, there's so many thousands and thousands of girls in Pattaya that it doesn't even make a noticeable dent these days.
[QUOTE=Betong]In the old days when the US military came in, you'd come down to breakfast and find even your waitress gone. But these days the scene in Pattaya is so huge it could swallow the entire 7th Fleet and not even burp. I always tell people not even to worry about it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Betong]In the old days when the US military came in, you'd come down to breakfast and find even your waitress gone. But these days the scene in Pattaya is so huge it could swallow the entire 7th Fleet and not even burp. I always tell people not even to worry about it.[/QUOTE]
I've heard that the sailors are pretty well behaved these days, is this the case?
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[quote=betong]in the old days when the us military came in, you'd come down to breakfast and find even your waitress gone. but these days the scene in pattaya is so huge it could swallow the entire 7th fleet and not even burp. i always tell people not even to worry about it.[/quote]
i think its the aircraft carrier george washington (and presumably support vessels) that is in town, and you are right the impact is relatively marginal.
times are changing and power / influence and money is slipping from north america and europe to more recently developing nations. anyone who has not been to pattaya for a few years is in for a big shock, the ethnicity of its patrons is changing so fast.
the clientčle of the upmarket gogos is now dominated by chinese, the discos and dance areas by russians and beach road and walking street by large groups of indian and iranian guys mostly trying to negotiate 2-5 guy for 1 girl type deals. as far as i can see this has led to a significant deterioration in the average quality of beach rd girls who now apart from the **** girls look very used and tired.
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Yes...
That's absolutely the case. They walk around with "adult" chaperones. And very clean cut types. Professional looking. I don't even think there's many that partake. It's more just a walking around and looking and having a beer. Oh, I'm sure some do, but it's not like the "old" days in any way, shape, or form.
[QUOTE=Booey]I've heard that the sailors are pretty well behaved these days, is this the case?[/QUOTE]
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American Fleet
Anyone know how long it will be in Pattaya the American fleet ?.
Thanks ...
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I really don't like the "gentrification" of soi 6. Too many gogo type places springing up. There are plenty of those already. We need another 6 soi sixes.
This time I allowed myself to be waylaid by an aging midget. I couldn't believe she's working on her own account, and not a mamasan or something. She's actually not ugly, has good boobs and horny as hell. While grinding on my crotch she said something that I hadn't heard in a while. I was giving as good as I got and she suddenly exclaimed: "you make me feel so young!" That made me feel proud that I could return the favor at least on one occasion.
When she dismounted we discovered her period had started by the big bloodstain on the front of my shorts. Luckily I just happened to have a spare pair of trousers with me. She was very apologetic and washed my shorts for me. She hung them up to dry and I came back a few hours later to pick them up.
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I guess if they are so well behaved, it's because they face stiff punishment if they are caught partaking ?
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]I guess if they are so well behaved, it's because they face stiff punishment if they are caught partaking ?[/QUOTE]They certainly face punishment if they cause any trouble, and there are usually plenty of MPs around to make sure they don't. Not sure if they're actually forbidden to partake, but they're heavily discouraged -- videos about the horrors of STDs, etc. -- and most don't seem to. Kind of sad really, sailors coming ashore in Pattaya and not even shagging.
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Ucmj
[QUOTE=New Old Guy]
I guess if they are so well behaved, it's because they face stiff punishment if they are caught partaking ?
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January 24, 2006
Patronizing prostitutes just got more costly
New rule means those convicted face dishonorable discharge, jail
By Karen Jowers
Marine Corps Times staff writer
Service members now may pay dearly for hiring a prostitute.
Under a change in the Manual for Courts-Martial, troops who patronize prostitutes can receive a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances and up to a year in jail.
“Before now, there was no explicit prohibition on patronizing a prostitute,” said Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice. “It’s clear they’re getting serious about this. I think it’s a sign of changing values in our society, including military society. Once upon a time, this kind of thing was rampant, like heavy drinking and smoking.”
The punishment for hiring a prostitute is now the same as the punishment for being a prostitute.
The change took effect Nov. 13 but received renewed emphasis by the Pentagon after President Bush signed a law Jan. 10 containing various provisions designed to combat [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url], which is heavily tied to prostitution.
Defense officials had no statistics available on the number of courts-martial for patronizing prostitutes since the change went into effect.
But it applies in all cases, even if a service member visits a legal brothel, regardless of local domestic or foreign law, said Pentagon spokeswoman Air Force Lt. Col. Ellen Krenke.
A bit dated but still enforce. Glad they waited until after I got out.
Slim
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[QUOTE=Nvslim]...Service members now may pay dearly for hiring a prostitute. Under a change in the Manual for Courts-Martial, troops who patronize prostitutes can receive a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances and up to a year in jail.[/QUOTE]
Stands to reason, doesn't it? ... after all, they are sacrificial slaves.
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Very well said, Daddy07.
Make love not war :)
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[QUOTE=New Old Guy]Very well said, Daddy07.
Make love not war :)[/QUOTE]
Sounds more like, make war, not love.
I kinda feel sorry for all those sailors, might as well just stay on the ship.
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Great info David 2. Thanks for the input. I will be arriving in 2 days and will give this this spa package a try. Sounds like a good relaxing time with a good ending. What did they want for the tip? Hopefully all is well and I don't have an issue like you did,
Thanks
[QUOTE=David 2]The reason that it isn't on their website is that it's an outside vendor that they rent space to. It opened a year and a half ago when their tower #2 opened, and they were having a special promotion for guests at NP. I tried one of their deluxe spa packages. I think it was 3 hours for 2000 THB, and it included a milk bubble bath, a body scrub, and an oil massage. A VERY nice experience, and of course the usual upsell options were offered including HE. Of course I paid the special service to the girl in cash.
I had asked before I went there if I could charge it to my room, and of course they said yes, but when I went to check out a week or so later, the NP manager on duty insisted that I pay the spa bill separately, in cash. Well, I explained that they said it could be added to my hotel bill, and that I had already changed all my THB back to USDollars. He was a very unpleasant man, but he had no choice but to add it to my bill because that was the only way he was going to get paid.
BTW, I was a long time customer of the NP hotel, and I had spent over 80 nights there over 4 visits, but after that occasion I will never go back. There are SO many better hotels that actually know the meaning of "Customer Service"[/QUOTE]
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Good day massage
anyone wanting a good massage i can recommend the above which is on soi bukao. head up soi diana inn away from 2nd road, turn left on soi bukao and it is located on left after about 100 yards. oil massage is 200baht for the hour and very good, free chinese tea and water also. i don't believe they do extras but i think the girls will go with you for bar fine, this is the place to go when you want a real massage, if your feeling horny afterwards [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] is just round the corner so you could go and have a blow.
may the force be with you.
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Tailor...Sweaters
Sorry for the off topic, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a tailor in Pattaya that will make sweaters. I looked all over last time I was there but came up empty handed. Anyone know of any?
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Spa at Nova Platinum
[QUOTE=Triple Input]Great info David 2. Thanks for the input. I will be arriving in 2 days and will give this this spa package a try. Sounds like a good relaxing time with a good ending. What did they want for the tip? Hopefully all is well and I don't have an issue like you did,
Thanks[/QUOTE]
The very attractive young attendant asked for 1,000 THB, and because it was a 3 hour service I would have tipped 100 for each hour and 500 for the HE anyway, so I gave her the requested tip without bargaining. I was pampered like a king all afternoon, and it was a VERY pleasant experience for less than 90 USD.
I live in Las Vegas, and 90 USD buys you a 20 minute massage from a 50 year old without teeth.
Hope you enjoy......I'll look forward to your report.
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Im back in Pattaya this weekend and have a question:
What interactive bars/go gos are there?
Last trip I went to X Zone and I heard that Windmill is similar so will check that out - but are there any others where you can "play" in the bar?
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Not well said
"Stands to reason, doesn't it? ... after all, they are sacrificial slaves."
[QUOTE=New Old Guy]Very well said, Daddy07.
Make love not war :)[/QUOTE]
Nice snide remark about courageous men and women.
If it is so well said, I suggest you say it to their faces and see what happens.
But you won't, PUSSY!!!
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[QUOTE=David 2]The very attractive young attendant asked for 1,000 THB, and because it was a 3 hour service I would have tipped 100 for each hour and 500 for the HE anyway, so I gave her the requested tip without bargaining. I was pampered like a king all afternoon, and it was a VERY pleasant experience for less than 90 USD.
I live in Las Vegas, and 90 USD buys you a 20 minute massage from a 50 year old without teeth.[/QUOTE]IMHO many mongers make the mistake of comparing a local price structure with "what it costs back home." This leads them to passing out money as if it were water in many countries where it is not necessary. I prefer to look at everything in context of the Big Mac Index and the local purchasing power parity. (In each country you visit check out the price of a Big Mac or a pack of Marlboro (although govt. taxes are added to the cigs) and compare it to back home.)There is absolutely no reason to fork over approximately 30 USD/ hour where the average monthly wage is 24,000 baht or US$800.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]"Stands to reason, doesn't it? ... after all, they are sacrificial slaves."
Nice snide remark about courageous men and women.
If it is so well said, I suggest you say it to their faces and see what happens.
But you won't, PUSSY!!![/QUOTE]
Who said they aren't courageous?
The truth is that when they sign up for duty, they essentially become the property of the US military which can put them into harms way; order them to stay away from prostitues; or just about any thing else their masters desire. Can you handle the truth? Soldiers have always been considered as little more than slaves by governments... you know ... like 'cannon fodder.'
If it makes you feel any better, Mr. Jingo Patriot, the USA government considers the rest of us as a 'resource' as well, which IMHO is not much better than slave.
BTW -- I HAVE said it more than once to my military friends. They agreed.
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Bullsit
I don't believe for a second your "friends" agree they are slaves. Really, you have friends who "signed up" to be "cannon fodder"?
It has nothing to do with Jingoism or Patriotism, I am neither. But I have tremendous respect for those who would put their lives on the line to allow me to live my life in freedom. Calling them slaves is hugely disrespectful.
Fuck the government (USA or otherwise). I'm not talking about them, but it should be very obvious why the military doesn't allow its members to visit prostitutes while deployed in a foreign country.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Who said they aren't courageous?
The truth is that when they sign up for duty, they essentially become the property of the US military which can put them into harms way; order them to stay away from prostitues; or just about any thing else their masters desire. Can you handle the truth? Soldiers have always been considered as little more than slaves by governments... you know ... like 'cannon fodder.'
If it makes you feel any better, Mr. Jingo Patriot, the USA government considers the rest of us as a 'resource' as well, which IMHO is not much better than slave.
BTW -- I HAVE said it more than once to my military friends. They agreed.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Stands to reason, doesn't it? ... after all, they are sacrificial slaves.[/QUOTE]At law, they say let the punishment fit the crime.
In this case it should be at worst, a missdemeanor, and it is highly unreasonable and damaging to morale, and probably poor given the law of equity. Was Bush or his aides trying to encourage homosexuality?
Given that certain security clearances are revoked for those that have affairs (untrustworthy) the rule seems reasonable for partnered sailors.
But single sailors? Is the justification that they don't want to infect host countries with (du) uranium sperm (many birth defects to soldiers wives who played with DU) so now special forces get to freeze theirs. In case.
But if we apply those rule, do all congressmen on the hill automatically get discharged. And their clearances revoked. Or for hiring illegal nannies. And everyone else on the civil arms.
This enforcement smacks of double standards, probably enforced by butch lesbians and feminists too ugly to get a man.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]I don't believe for a second your "friends" agree they are slaves. Really, you have friends who "signed up" to be "cannon fodder"?
It has nothing to do with Jingoism or Patriotism, I am neither. But I have tremendous respect for those who would put their lives on the line to allow me to live my life in freedom. Calling them slaves is hugely disrespectful.
Fuck the government (USA or otherwise). I'm not talking about them, but it should be very obvious why the military doesn't allow its members to visit prostitutes while deployed in a foreign country.[/QUOTE]
All the guys I went to high school with who served in Vietnam regretted their involvement in the military which they felt used them like cannon fodder in a war the government did not even intend to win. One of them lost an eye along with half his face -- for nothing. I can respect them all very much but that doesn't change the truth that soldiers sign up to be slaves.
You might not be talking about the government, but I am, and was when I made what you called a "snide" statement. My ire was directed toward the government -- not the courageous men and women whom I do respect.
And, no, it is not obvious to me why a brave soldier should get in trouble for seeking a little R & R in a foreign country. I think it's asking too much from them. I think they deserve to be treated like adult human beings while serving their nation.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]IMHO many mongers make the mistake of comparing a local price structure with "what it costs back home." This leads them to passing out money as if it were water in many countries where it is not necessary. I prefer to look at everything in context of the Big Mac Index and the local purchasing power parity. (In each country you visit check out the price of a Big Mac or a pack of Marlboro (although govt. taxes are added to the cigs) and compare it to back home.)There is absolutely no reason to fork over approximately 30 USD/ hour where the average monthly wage is 24,000 baht or US$800.[/QUOTE]
It's even worse than that. 24 000 Bath is the GDP per capita not the wages. No many thais earn more than 10 000/month.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]All the guys I went to high school with who served in Vietnam regretted their involvement in the military which they felt used them like cannon fodder in a war the government did not even intend to win. One of them lost an eye along with half his face -- for nothing. I can respect them all very much but that doesn't change the truth that soldiers sign up to be slaves.
You might not be talking about the government, but I am, and was when I made what you called a "snide" statement. My ire was directed toward the government -- not the courageous men and women whom I do respect.
And, no, it is not obvious to me why a brave soldier should get in trouble for seeking a little R & R in a foreign country. I think it's asking too much from them. I think they deserve to be treated like adult human beings while serving their nation.[/QUOTE]
You said it perfectly. I'm from India, didn't realize the same mind games and brainwashing they play on US soldiers also. The talk of brave men and women, fighting for their country is a brain washing tool to get young men from all over the world to fight against each other.
When i graduated from college, i had to opportunity to work for navy, but i refused, i did not had the brain for all the politics that goes around...but some how i did not feel killing another human being in the name of protecting national security was a good thing...i thought putting human life is higher than political boundaries.
I was 20 yrs old then not smart enough (one reason they recruit young) many friends who joined the military regret it even today....they are used when their blood is young..when they get old..they are thrown away.....they think i'm really lucky to go around the world when i wish and have fun....they believe with all boot camps, waking at 4 am, following strict orders have made them robots. They are unable to think for themselves after some time.
When ever i call my military friends the first thing they ask is ..How im enjoying my life..
All soldiers in every country are used as slaves. I never hear the presidents son and daughter from India, Pakistan, USA, UK, Iran, Korea, Russia fighting in the front line...its all about normal people like you and me who are butchered in the front line all in the name of national security, freedom which are just brain washing trigger words.
The reason i write this is i feel sorry for my friends as they are stuck...they made a wrong choice.....i don't blame them...its the whole social structure that is to blame...i hope if some one is reading this would warn there friends and may be their kids some day for not joining the military. If we all from every country not decide to fight against each other...these devious political leaders will have no one to create wars.
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Fuck me, 1000bht plus 30USD per hour for three hours plus tip for HE, I may as well not bother about booking my next holiday to Thailand next year cause the prices will be cheaper in my own country if people keep throwing it away like that.
One of the providers I met over there while on holiday was a really sexy looking 19 year old with a knock out body, was paying her 1000bht LT (I held on to her for a while, she would stay with me the whole of the next day and we'll go to her bar at 8:30pm where I'd buy her one drink to make the owner happy, pay her bf again and then we'd leave), plenty of BBBJ and rimming both ways which is enough to make anybody feel like a king.
I was a newbie and I'm still fresh, but for the whole time I was in patt's I didn't fall into temptation and over pay or tip these providers, price on services were negotiated and agreed upon prior.
Which reminds me I need to post another days adventure!
As for the military, would an establishment which advertisers massage come under the same category as brothel or parlor?
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]And, no, it is not obvious to me why a brave soldier should get in trouble for seeking a little R & R in a foreign country.[/QUOTE]Especially since it's a tradition as old and honored as the military itself. Just these poor guys' luck to live in a time and place of ridiculous political correctness.
However I'm happy to say that last time I asked the girls on Soi 6, they told me sure, some of the guys take girls. But then military regulations have never gotten in the way of anybody with any spirit.
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[QUOTE=Betong]Especially since it's a tradition as old and honored as the military itself. Just these poor guys' luck to live in a time and place of ridiculous political correctness.
However I'm happy to say that last time I asked the girls on Soi 6, they told me sure, some of the guys take girls. But then military regulations have never gotten in the way of anybody with any spirit.[/QUOTE]Listen up guys. This is a sex forum, repeat sex forum.
Chew your beef elsewhere and get back on topic!
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Hi Triplehans,
I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...
[red][u]Would you please refrain from WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS![/u][/red]
It's difficult to read and it's time consuming to fix.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i]
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No pussy, no war!
[QUOTE=Daddy07]no, it is not obvious to me why a brave soldier should get in trouble for seeking a little R & R in a foreign country. [/QUOTE]
Young men go to war to fuck pussy and have some adventure. It all gets wrapped up in a cloak of patriotism. This is the way of the world since before the Greeks sacked Troy. But once the young soldiers experience the horrors of war they begin to change their minds...about war, not pussy.
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012]You said it perfectly. I'm from India, didn't realize the same mind games and brainwashing they play on US soldiers also. The talk of brave men and women, fighting for their country is a brain washing tool to get young men from all over the world to fight against each other.
When i graduated from college, i had to opportunity to work for navy, but i refused, i did not had the brain for all the politics that goes around...but some how i did not feel killing another human being in the name of protecting national security was a good thing...i thought putting human life is higher than political boundaries.
I was 20 yrs old then not smart enough (one reason they recruit young) many friends who joined the military regret it even today....they are used when their blood is young..when they get old..they are thrown away.....they think i'm really lucky to go around the world when i wish and have fun....they believe with all boot camps, waking at 4 am, following strict orders have made them robots. They are unable to think for themselves after some time.
When ever i call my military friends the first thing they ask is ..How im enjoying my life..
All soldiers in every country are used as slaves. I never hear the presidents son and daughter from India, Pakistan, USA, UK, Iran, Korea, Russia fighting in the front line...its all about normal people like you and me who are butchered in the front line all in the name of national security, freedom which are just brain washing trigger words.
The reason i write this is i feel sorry for my friends as they are stuck...they made a wrong choice.....i don't blame them...its the whole social structure that is to blame...i hope if some one is reading this would warn there friends and may be their kids some day for not joining the military. If we all from every country not decide to fight against each other...these devious political leaders will have no one to create wars.[/QUOTE]
You forget most of the countries have all volunteer army. Nobody is forcing anybody to join the armed forces. Where there is strict draft even the daughters and sons of the president and high officials have to join. No exceptions .
Joining the armed forces has its advantages. Travelling the world, steady job and benefits and even retirement is taken care of. Downside is the risk associated with fighting.
All army whether you like it or not need to be brainwashed. How can a army fight together if each one thinks for himeself?
In spite of your comments there will always be a war in our life times. Every country will have armed forces with advanced weapons.
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On a Tangent
As an ex US Navy officer I look at the military as only a job. And on every job there are certain rules that have to be followed. When you sign up you consent to follow those rules. There is truth in what everybody is saying. It just has to be put all together.
1. Guys sign up to get exotic pussy and adventure.
2. Regulations have never gotten in the way of anyone with spirit.
3. The talk of brave men and women, fighting for their country is a brain washing tool to get young men from all over the world to fight against each other.
4. The truth is that when they sign up for duty, they essentially become the property of the US military which can put them into harms way; order them to stay away from prostitues; or just about any thing else their masters desire.
Today's military is no different than the old feudal system where the lord allowed a man to use a parcel of land in exchange that he would go to war for the lord when the time came. Today you can sign up in a time of peace and receive a paycheck every month while preparing and always being ready for war in hopes that a war will not take place during your stint. What are the chances of that? But when the time comes you have to be ready to fulfill your part of the deal which is doing what you were hired to do, fight; not question the motives or reasons that you are going to war or question why you have to do what you are told. You merely have to execute the commands you are given from above.
In order for everyone to be on the same page rules are in place, such as wearing a uniform. The first thing you learn when you go to the military is there are no individuals, there is only the group. Your personal ideas have to be left in your home town and you do for the good of the group. Of course you are not supposed to get tattoos because your body is government property and you are not supposed to fuck working girls. But as Daddy said, those rules have never gotten in the way of anyone who wanted to do those things. The key with that as with anything in life is knowing how far a particular rule can be bent.
As far as the hooker issue maybe the Nav had enough of guys coming back to the ship after liberty with diseases or getting complaints to the Commanding Officer from various women. (I remember many times a guy had a disagreement with a woman or he would not do as she wanted then she would threaten to go to the Commanding Officer to get him into trouble.) These trivial things cost money and take away from resources. The fortunate thing is that the door swings both ways. When your contract is up you can always walk out the same door you walked in.
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[QUOTE=El Frances]It's even worse than that. 24 000 Bath is the GDP per capita not the wages. No many thais earn more than 10 000/month.[/QUOTE]
You're right. The average monthly wage in Thailand, for the second quarter of year 2009, was lesser than 8600 baht (8521.7), according to the Bangkok Post Economic Review:
[url]http://bangkokpost.com/productinfo/common/img/img_eco2/pdf/EC301209E08.pdf[/url]
And in rural Isan (the region from where most of the P4P girls available on the tourist-oriented market come), many people live on less than 4000 baht per month (in the agricultural sector, the average monthly wage was approximately 3600 baht only in 2009).
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OT-Military Service
I served over a years in Viet Nam '68-69. It was tough duty, full of dangers and hard times. That was the down side of my tour, the good side was I got to experience the wonders of Asia and the beauty of Asian women. An old timer in my unit gave a taxi girl a dollar to take me to the green leaves motel and I've been hooked on Asian ladies ever since. Without the exposure given to me by the service I would never have known a whole 'nother world and way of living. I look at Viet Nam like the biggest adventure of my life and don't regret the experience at all!
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[QUOTE=El Frances]It's even worse than that. 24 000 Bath is the GDP per capita not the wages. No many thais earn more than 10 000/month.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I stand corrected. I remember doing a tour and going to a rice farm. They said that a rice farmer makes about US$ 1200/year. No way I'm giving a working girl the same amout for a couple of hours as it takes a hard working rice farmer a whole month to make.
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[QUOTE=Sammon] In spite of your comments there will always be a war in our life times.[/quote]Hopefully not, and count me among the ones that steadily refuse even the so called just war.[quote] Every country will have armed forces with advanced weapons.[/QUOTE]For the main benefit of those selling the weapons to profit hugely from the misery of others.
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Tipping
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]IMHO many mongers make the mistake of comparing a local price structure with "what it costs back home." This leads them to passing out money as if it were water in many countries where it is not necessary. I prefer to look at everything in context of the Big Mac Index and the local purchasing power parity. (In each country you visit check out the price of a Big Mac or a pack of Marlboro (although govt. taxes are added to the cigs) and compare it to back home.)There is absolutely no reason to fork over approximately 30 USD/ hour where the average monthly wage is 24,000 baht or US$800.[/QUOTE]
If you'd take the time to read my report you would see that my tip was 30 USD for 3 hours of pampering.....not 30 USD/hour as you stated.
I was the first customer in their brand new spa, and the place was magnificent. No expense was spared in the construction, and they were trying to build a client base by going the extra mile with each new client.
The attendant first filled their brand new jacuzzi with coconut milk while I took a soothing sauna. When the bath was filled she scrubbed my entire body before helping me into that lucious concoction in the whirlpool. She joined me in one of the best baths I've ever had.
After the bath, she gave me a 30 minute oatmeal facial, followed by a 1 hour foot massage, and then an hour and a half oil massage to die for.
I happily gave her what amounted to a bit less than $30 for a once in a lifetime experience.
I'm not really interested in what your Bic Macs cost......but I hope you enjoy them along with your Marlboros.
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[QUOTE=Goyave]You're right. The average monthly wage in Thailand, for the second quarter of year 2009, was lesser than 8600 baht (8521.7), according to the Bangkok Post Economic Review:
[url]http://bangkokpost.com/productinfo/common/img/img_eco2/pdf/EC301209E08.pdf[/url]
And in rural Isan (the region from where most of the P4P girls available on the tourist-oriented market come), many people live on less than 4000 baht per month (in the agricultural sector, the average monthly wage was approximately 3600 baht only in 2009).[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the link. Pretty interesting but the bar girls are making cash and I bet a lot goes uncounted for.
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Great Story
[QUOTE=Rocksoff]When she dismounted we discovered her period had started by the big bloodstain on the front of my shorts. Luckily I just happened to have a spare pair of trousers with me. She was very apologetic and washed my shorts for me. She hung them up to dry and I came back a few hours later to pick them up.[/QUOTE]
Got to love Thailand - where else can you get your washing done as well as your rocks off!
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Police Raid Soi 6 Bar
Who would ever have guessed that there might actually be prostitution going on in Soi 6?
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/07/police-conduct-prostitution-raid-at-mandarin-bar-in-soi-6-pattaya/[/url]
Thankfully all the other bars on that Soi are legitimate...
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Who would ever have guessed that there might actually be prostitution going on in Soi 6?
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/07/police-conduct-prostitution-raid-at-mandarin-bar-in-soi-6-pattaya/[/url]
Thankfully all the other bars on that Soi are legitimate...[/QUOTE]
"Using a foreign volunteer, officers entrapped the popular A-Go-Go Bar into providing the undercover officer with a range of services valued by the establishment and involved girl at Bt2,000. "
Foreign volunteer? Surely this was someone who had run afoul of the cops and was trying to get themselves out of trouble.
Someone on Soi 6 willing to pay 2,000 baht for services should have made the establishment suspicious in the first place. Or did they just think they had another sucker on the line?
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I often wondered when I was there for a couple of months last year whether any of the cute touts are available for takeout? There was a real cute light haired spinner in front of Airport on Walking Street. Never got around asking one if she was barfineable.
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Free anal?
Do you know "Mia the nasty *****"
This sounds like something fun.
[url]http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/about-me.phtml[/url]
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] Foreign volunteer? Surely this was someone who had run afoul of the cops and was trying to get themselves out of trouble...[/QUOTE]
More likely, this particular bar owner either refused or forgot to pay the monthly bribe to stay in business. There must be at least a hundred bars on that Soi and every one of them is a cat house. If the cops really decided to crack down on prostitution in Pattaya, this place would be a ghost town.
The "foreign volunteer" is probably a toad.
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Don't be to confident
[QUOTE=Daddy07]More likely, this particular bar owner either refused or forgot to pay the monthly bribe to stay in business. There must be at least a hundred bars on that Soi and every one of them is a cat house. If the cops really decided to crack down on prostitution in Pattaya, this place would be a ghost town.[/QUOTE]
The intention has always been to reduce prostitution and hide it away more effectively, if not actually eliminate it. As disingenuous as this prosecution seems to be, I would not be at all suprised to see Soi 6 shut down in a few years, particularly if the Thaksin/Red side come back into power.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]The intention has always been to reduce prostitution and hide it away more effectively, if not actually eliminate it. As disingenuous as this prosecution seems to be, I would not be at all suprised to see Soi 6 shut down in a few years, particularly if the Thaksin/Red side come back into power.[/QUOTE]
As noted regarding Soi 6, this Soi from beginning to end is doing the same thing the Mandarin is doing! So why Mandarin? The rule of thumb or the law if that is what one wants to believe is the Soi closes at 1am! The Mandarin owners violated that code by trying to stay open beyond that period. Closing the lights out front and trying to skirt the code amount others on the Soi, got them busted.
Most of these bars are Farang owned fronted by Thai women, one call, a little money and a call from another jealous owner and you get raided. Personally Thaksin or the Red or yellow or whatever color that comes along there will always be a Soi 6! Before Thaksin was in charge there was a Soi 6, when he was in office Soi 6, got more popular and when he was out of office since 2006, Soi 6 still alive! Maybe not the same owners and they come and go but in the end its still another bar. Thaksin is so homesick for Thailand he would do anything or use anyone means to return. If he had to kiss the Kings Ass to return without serving Jail time he couldn't jump fast enough so allowing the P4P to continue to operate in Pattaya is small give back.
Thailand is all about smoke and mirror, every policeman wants to be assign to Soi 9, district. Biggest payout because of Soi 6, and Walking Street. There was a time Soi Buakhao was suppose to be the new WS. but today WS is still there. Nothing will change!
LBM
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[QUOTE=First Lover]Do you know "Mia the nasty *****"
This sounds like something fun.
[url]http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/about-me.phtml[/url][/QUOTE]Sounds like fun, but somehow i don't think its going to be the girl in the pictures that will be tied up. Cause anybody who likes asian women(namely me) would know that those photos are of an American born thai porn star named Leanni Lei who started her career by doing max hardcore videos. I seriously doubt the GFC is that bad in the US that she's had to travel to Thailand to make money!
But check it out anyway if your in the area, you never know your luck and report back. I'd be kicking myself up the ass if it does turn out to be her.
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Leanni Lei
[QUOTE=First Lover]
Do you know "Mia the nasty *****"
This sounds like something fun.
[url]http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/about-me.phtml[/url]
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This Leanni Lei the Asian porn star.
[url]http://www.leannilei.org/tour.htm[/url]
An ad like this pops up ever so often.
Slim
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A working girl with a heart
I recently met a really fantastic WG in Pattaya. We met in public in Mikes Mall
and started chatting and something really clicked. She told me she was working at a language school (which she was) but she was also working at a high end MP in Pattaya. Since then we have spent a great deal of time together and I can tell you she surprises me. She has her own motorbikes, has a house uo in Issan, never let's me pay for anything and overall is a true joy. With my vast experience with WG I have never seen this before. She seems quite genuine and tells me about though she is a bit ashamed she is a P4P girl she has goals and desires and this is helping her to achieve that.
Has anyone seen this before witha Thai WG? I like this girl but believe me the more experienced among us knows you can never throw caution to the wind in this town.
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[QUOTE=Showdown]I recently met a really fantastic WG in Pattaya. We met in public in Mikes Mall
and started chatting and something really clicked. She told me she was working at a language school (which she was) but she was also working at a high end MP in Pattaya. Since then we have spent a great deal of time together and I can tell you she surprises me. She has her own motorbikes, has a house uo in Issan, never let's me pay for anything and overall is a true joy. With my vast experience with WG I have never seen this before. She seems quite genuine and tells me about though she is a bit ashamed she is a P4P girl she has goals and desires and this is helping her to achieve that.
Has anyone seen this before witha Thai WG? I like this girl but believe me the more experienced among us knows you can never throw caution to the wind in this town.[/QUOTE]Simpson's did it! Simpsons did it!
Yep I have seen it with Thai WGs before and many Brazilian WGs as well. Some just like to get a little extra money and some just like to fuck. Either way I don't see anything wrong with it.
I picked up one from Lucifer a couple of weeks ago. She didn't want any money. We got on her motorbike and I saw it only had 64km on the odometer. I said something about it and she said she had just bought it 4 days before. She wanted me to come visit her at her regular job sometimes. I don't think I'll take her up on it because she was a dud in the sack. LOL. She also said that she had a boyfriend from Spain. While we were together some guy from Turkey (stalker) kept calling her. She made me talk to him on the phone and tell him to stop calling. He didn't care. When I hung up the phone he called right back so she finally turned it off.
Also one of my wingmen used to have one who owned her own clothing shop. She used to spend money on him like it was water. You just never know with these chicks. I'm telling you.
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[QUOTE=Showdown]I recently met a really fantastic WG in Pattaya. We met in public in Mikes Mall
and started chatting and something really clicked. She told me she was working at a language school (which she was) but she was also working at a high end MP in Pattaya. Since then we have spent a great deal of time together and I can tell you she surprises me. She has her own motorbikes, has a house uo in Issan, never let's me pay for anything and overall is a true joy. With my vast experience with WG I have never seen this before. She seems quite genuine and tells me about though she is a bit ashamed she is a P4P girl she has goals and desires and this is helping her to achieve that.
Has anyone seen this before witha Thai WG? I like this girl but believe me the more experienced among us knows you can never throw caution to the wind in this town.[/QUOTE]
She seems like a good girl...i say go for whatever u have in mind...these stories of bar girls scamming a guy and guy cheating bar girl...will go on long after we are dead and the world turns into stone age.
Let it not bother you man..sometimes we get too cautious and take our whole life in reverse ..trust your gut feelings in these matters not what others say...think about it whats the worst she can do for you...scam you of some dollars...whats best she can do...Change your life for ever...right..
take your pick and go for it...good luck
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Who would ever have guessed that there might actually be prostitution going on in Soi 6?
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/07/police-conduct-prostitution-raid-at-mandarin-bar-in-soi-6-pattaya/[/url]
Thankfully all the other bars on that Soi are legitimate...[/QUOTE]
THAT will CERTAINLY terach them NOT to flip the middle finger at the tumruat, EH?
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Jackson - Popper Pattaya Hotel Report is Complete
Hi Jackson,
The [b]Popper Pattaya Hotel Report [/b]was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that there are e-mails of hotels; however, even after deleting the e-mails still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know.
Tried to PM, but thus far no response. Please let me know how to post this lengthy and informative report.
Thanks.
--Popper
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I have no idea how you could post a report of that length. It sounds like a great resource and I for one, would love to have it. Maybe those of us who feel likewise could send you PMs, with email addresses, and you could email it to us, though that would be a burden to you. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
GE
[QUOTE=Popper1]Hi Jackson,
The [b]Popper Pattaya Hotel Report [/b]was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that I have e-mails of hotels; however, I deleted the e-mails but still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know.
Tried to PM, but thus far no response. Please let me know how to post this lengthy and informative report.
Thanks.
--Popper[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Hi Jackson,
The [b]Popper Pattaya Hotel Report [/b]was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that there are e-mails of hotels; however, even after deleting the e-mails still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know.
Tried to PM, but thus far no response. Please let me know how to post this lengthy and informative report.
Thanks.
--Popper[/QUOTE]Try splitting it into 30 posts
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[QUOTE=Popper1] ... The [b]Popper Pattaya Hotel Report [/b]was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that there are e-mails of hotels; however, even after deleting the e-mails still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know--Popper[/QUOTE]
Try saving the document in PDF format and attaching it as a file to your report. That's how I posted "Daddy's Thai Language Phrase List."
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=74672[/url]
Here is Evil Penevil’s September 2007 Pattaya Hotel Guide:
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Pattaya or Bangkok
Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.
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A few pointers for a new monger
Hello, guys.
I'm in Vietnam now, almost figured out the local scene but in a day or two I'm on my way to Pattaya. I need a little bit of information, I know most of it is here but because English isn't my native tongue it will take me a l o and g time to search trough everything in here. I tried reading back and it took me a few good hours to only read half of the first page. So please help me just a little and I promise to report back with a lot of stories and info after I'll be done in Thailand. I have just a few questions:
1. What is the different between a bar, a open bar, a soapy and a-gogo? I saw that there are price differences. Why?
2. What is the customary bar fine? What is the average price for a ST and what is for LT? Is LT just until morning or more?
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Rtff
[QUOTE=Fullmonty]Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.[/QUOTE]Pattaya is better but Bangkok is more gooder.
I hope this helps.
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Well said...
[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Pattaya is better but Bangkok is more gooder. I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fullmonty]Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.[/QUOTE]It just depends on your personal taste. Some guys prefer Bangkok over Pattaya and vice versa.
Just spend some time in both places and find out for yourself.
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[QUOTE=Huber]Hello, guys.
I'm in Vietnam now, almost figured out the local scene but in a day or two I'm on my way to Pattaya. I need a little bit of information, I know most of it is here but because English isn't my native tongue it will take me a l o and g time to search trough everything in here. I tried reading back and it took me a few good hours to only read half of the first page. So please help me just a little and I promise to report back with a lot of stories and info after I'll be done in Thailand. I have just a few questions:
1. What is the different between a bar, a open bar, a soapy and a-gogo? I saw that there are price differences. Why?
2. What is the customary bar fine? What is the average price for a ST and what is for LT? Is LT just until morning or more?[/QUOTE]Google "Pattaya Bars" and you'll get a wealth of information. Too much information for anyone on here to give an indepth play-by-play. Each bar is different on prices. Open bars are open air bars, pleanty of them. Soapy is a go-go bar that has a couple girls playing in a tub of bubble bath. Go-go bar is just that, depends on the bar, may be some nudity, may not be as well. ST usually $20 - $30, LT $40 - $60, depending on how you treat the girls and whether they like your company.
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[QUOTE=Fullmonty]Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.[/QUOTE]BKK has better quality, higher prices. PTY more centrally located as far as bar activity and easier to negotiate without having to take a cab everywhere.
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Everyone is different
[QUOTE=Fullmonty]Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.[/QUOTE]Fullmonty,
Everyone is different it all depend what you like, I think you should spend 3 night in each city pattaya is much cheaper and much easier to find actions and Bangkok is a large city with more to do like shopping and toruist sight but more expensive.
Fast eddie 48
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[QUOTE=Huber]
1. What is the different ..., a soapy .....?[/QUOTE]A soapy is a massage place where you can select a girl from a fishbowl of girls, you get a room, she gives you a bubble bath, a good rub etc. You then proceed to an inflatable matttress where she covers you in bubbles and she will proceed to slip and slide all over you. A true full body massage. You tidy up, then dry up and hop on the bed for a one shot good time. Takes about an hour and half and costs about 1800bht. Expensive for one shot but a different experience if you havent tried. Sabai Dee Body Massage is one of the better ones near Central Center.
[url]http://www.pattayaphotoguide.com/?kR2RUX8skcqF[/url]
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Mwahahaha
[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Pattaya is better but Bangkok is more gooder.
I hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Slackerslacker, I like the cut of your jib.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Hi Jackson,
The [b]Popper Pattaya Hotel Report [/b]was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that there are e-mails of hotels; however, even after deleting the e-mails still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know.
Tried to PM, but thus far no response. Please let me know how to post this lengthy and informative report.
Thanks.
Popper[/QUOTE][blue]Popper1,
1. It was a complete coincidence that I saw your post. In the future, please do not rely on the open forum to direct my attention to individual member issues.
2. Your report was not posted because it exceeded the 50,000 character post limit. It had nothing to do with the report containing the email addresses of commercial businesses, which are in fact permitted and encouraged in the forum.
3. As noted at the top of the "Send New Private Message" screen, the PM system is NOT the best medium to contact me, as follows:
[quote]TO CONTACT JACKSON or a FORUM ADMINISTRATOR: Please use the Contact Us link at the bottom of every Forum page.[/quote]The reason: 90% of the forum visitors do not have access to the PM system, and thus it is not a good medium for me to administrate membership issues.
4. Please send me your report by email and I will post it for you, under your name. I will send you my email address to your email address of record, which is the [u]exclusive[/u] medium by which I communicate with members.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Beach Road Raid
Saw a report on a local non-mongering forum about a raid on beach road. Cops apparently arrested some of the girls and some of the boys who want to be girls. Many of the girls got away, according to the report.
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[QUOTE=Simian]Saw a report on a local non-mongering forum about a raid on beach road. Cops apparently arrested some of the girls and some of the boys who want to be girls. Many of the girls got away, according to the report.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/12/pattaya-beach-road-subject-to-prostitution-purge-by-police/[/url]
Those raids occur probably at least twice a year, but situation returns to normal pretty quickly (sometimes, just a few hours after the latest raid).
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[QUOTE=Goyave][url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/12/pattaya-beach-road-subject-to-prostitution-purge-by-police/[/url]
Those raids occur probably at least twice a year, but situation returns to normal pretty quickly (sometimes, just a few hours after the latest raid).[/QUOTE]
I have read on other forums that there is a new "top cop" in town, he's probably trying to make an impression to his bosses and is busily trying to get the new tea money rates set.
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Pattaya Update
Well gentlemen it has been a long time since my last post, so I thought I would provide a Pattaya update. I have lived here 7 years now and each and every year the city gets better and better. The new 30 story Hilton is set to open this month on top of a 7 story world class mall that opened last year.
If you have never been to “Walking Street” in Pattaya, you really have no idea what you are missing. It is without question my favorite 3 mile stretch of bars in the world.
I go down there 3 to 4 times a week and almost every week I find a new GO-GO bar that has opened or one I have never been to before. Why some foreigners comes to Thailand and thinks it is a good idea to spend a ton of money opening a GO-GO bar is a good investment, I have no idea, but I am glad they do.
And forget about the 1,000’s of beer bars on the street, I have never been to 99% of them. This is a great time to come to Pattaya; there are a ton of girls and not too many customers.
I am able to take a GO-GO girl now for 1,000 Baht short time and 1,500 Baht long time, plus the 600 Baht bar fine. I was never able to do that before, each price was 500 Baht more.
These are not the bars #1 girls, which never drop their price, since they get bar fined every night, but they are the bars #2 girls. You need to be nice to them and buy them a drink, talk to them a while and make them laugh. Also, the girl has to like you to go with you for that price, and I am sorry to say they are just like us and have different taste, so they all do not like you.
But, really who cares, since there are 10,000’s of them, you just move on to the next one. I want to make a special point of acknowledging the free-lancers on Walking Street. They are simply unreal and I have never seen so many stunners before here, they are everywhere.
If you are there between 10PM and midnight, 7’s to 9’s are walking by constantly, 1,000’s of them. I am talking about girls that look like movie stars or models. They are all heading to the discos. Over the past few years many of them have opened, which I don’t like going to. They are dark, crowded and the drinks are expensive.
Instead I just hang out on Walking Street for 5 minutes and find one I like and start talking to her. If I still like her then, I ask her if she wants a drink and I take her to a beer bar located right on the ocean. It is a nice place to sit, with a view of the ocean, the drinks are cheap and you can get to know the girl a little better.
I cannot stress this enough, regardless of where you take the girl from, always but always take one that you like and one that LIKES you. If you just take a girl that does NOT like you, more than likely you will have a bad experience.
The freelancers on Walking Street range in price from 500 Baht for an average looker to 1,000 Baht for a stunner and there is no bar fine involved. So these girls are without question the best deals in the city.
I am talking about getting a 8 or 9 stunner for 1,000 Baht, how can you beat that? You can’t is the answer. I look forward to seeing you here, it is a great time to come, the girls are everywhere and the customers are nowhere to be seen.
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami]Well gentlemen it has been a long time since my last post, so I thought I would provide a Pattaya update.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bill.
I will be in Pattaya from October 23 and appreciate your update.
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Pattaya
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]Well gentlemen it has been a long time since my last post, so I thought I would provide a Pattaya update. I have lived here 7 years now and each and every year the city gets better and better. The new 30 story Hilton is set to open this month on top of a 7 story world class mall that opened last year.
If you have never been to "Walking Street" in Pattaya, you really have no idea what you are missing. It is without question my favorite 3 mile stretch of bars in the world.[/quote]Aloha and thank you for sharing your expierence. I am in a different situation.
I came here with my filipina girl. She loves girls and is always trying to find more girls to play. We have had some good success but a little more difficult as the girl needs to like both of us and we need to both like the girl.
Met a great girl on soi 6 bar.
But now walking street they are all asking for 1500 to 2500 baht for short time?
What is that all about. We just say no. We did have stunner and hot one for both of us we took for 2000.
As a friend told me better to tell them what you will pay and not ask?
But I don't like to negotiate.
Either way I am having a great time and we will try a walk on the beach later at night.
Found one bar with lots of lesbians that had fun with my girl.
We told them she was a lady boy and they pulled down her pants to check it out.
Hahahaha. It was real pussy and two of the girls gave her a lick.
What a great place.
It seems busy to me? And expensive. But then I am so spoiled by the Philippines and the american dollar keeps falling as well.
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Walking street
Nice report Bill, how long have you worked for Pattaya tourist board?
I agree with the quality of freelancers knocking about, 2 weeks ago there where some good ones. Walking street is max 1/2 mile long, I know American gallons are smaller than the real ones (British) but I thought the mile was the same.
May the force be with you
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Busy?
There's almost no one here it seems. Many gogos are easily 10 girls to a guy. Many beer bars are 20 girls and no guys. This is a great time to be here and I'm taking full advantage!
And the Coconut Bar (Beach Road) is packed with cuties. I think the people who post that the girl count is down or they can't find girls are mostly losers who could not find a girl if the odds were a million to one.
I can't imagine how it could be any easier than this.
[QUOTE=MauiDude]Aloha and thank you for sharing your expierence. I am in a different situation.
I came here with my filipina girl. She loves girls and is always trying to find more girls to play. We have had some good success but a little more difficult as the girl needs to like both of us and we need to both like the girl.
Met a great girl on soi 6 bar.
But now walking street they are all asking for 1500 to 2500 baht for short time?
What is that all about. We just say no. We did have stunner and hot one for both of us we took for 2000.
As a friend told me better to tell them what you will pay and not ask?
But I don't like to negotiate.
Either way I am having a great time and we will try a walk on the beach later at night.
Found one bar with lots of lesbians that had fun with my girl.
We told them she was a lady boy and they pulled down her pants to check it out.
Hahahaha. It was real pussy and two of the girls gave her a lick.
What a great place.
It seems busy to me? And expensive. But then I am so spoiled by the Philippines and the american dollar keeps falling as well.[/QUOTE]
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Confusion
Can one of you lovely BM's please clear up a little confusion for me....
If I go to the top of Soi Diana and cross directly over Soi Buakow, will I be on Soi Leng Kee or Soi Chaiyapoon?
I have booked a guesthouse on Soi Leng Kee and was pretty sure on the location. However some recent posts have places Soi Chaiyapoon exactly where i thought i was staying!!
I've checked on a couple of maps, but they aren't very detailed and don't have either Soi clearly marked.
Help!
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[QUOTE=Chachi420]Can one of you lovely BM's please clear up a little confusion for me....
If I go to the top of Soi Diana and cross directly over Soi Buakow, will I be on Soi Leng Kee or Soi Chaiyapoon?
I have booked a guesthouse on Soi Leng Kee and was pretty sure on the location. However some recent posts have places Soi Chaiyapoon exactly where i thought i was staying!!
I've checked on a couple of maps, but they aren't very detailed and don't have either Soi clearly marked.
Help![/QUOTE]
Soi Lenkee
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[QUOTE=MauiDude]Aloha and thank you for sharing your expierence. I am in a different situation.[/QUOTE]
There is an easy solution to that problem. In fact there are many.
First, on Soi 6 there are a ton of Bi-Girls, you can just go from bar to bar.
Second, at the Soapies in 2nd by the Big C in the fish bowel there are also a ton of girls that would love going with both of you.
Third, your best bet of Walking Street is to hit the Go-Go bars that have Jacuzzi’s that put on live lessie shows. Sorry, I do not know all of their names, but there are many of them. These girls will start attacking your girlfriend.
If you just go to the Go-Go bars themselves at each one there are usually a few bi-girls or true lesbians that will go after each and every girl that walks in the door.
One other thing to keep in mind, Thai’s are kind of funny and can be prejudice. Some of them just might not like girls from the Philippians, but do not let it worry you, there will be many that do.
Remember these girls are just like all of us, they have their likes and dislikes. You can pretty much be sure 99% do not want to go with Indians, they hate them.
Some like Japanese guys, they pay the big money. Some like black guys, they have big other things. By the way one of the funniest things I ever heard was a Thai girl explaining what she liked and she said she liked “Chocolate Men.” I almost feel off the bar stool when I first heard that.
If you follow my above advice, you will have more girls than you know what to do with in one day. In fact you could have 5 great experiences a day if you wanted too.
For the rest of you that visit here, the type of girl you like is just not going to jump into bed with you the second you get here. You have to do a little work finding them and that is the fun part. Going from Go-Go bar until you find the one you want.
I am a tit man myself and for the most part Thai’s girls are not that well endowed in that area, so I have to spend a little time looking for the one I want that night. That time I spend looking is a blast, since I am messing around with girls at every bar.
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[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]Nice report Bill, how long have you worked for Pattaya tourist board?
I agree with the quality of freelancers knocking about, 2 weeks ago there where some good ones. Walking street is max 1/2 mile long, I know American gallons are smaller than the real ones (British) but I thought the mile was the same.[/QUOTE]
First, of course I do not work for the tourist board.
Second, I have to apologize, since I know there are many UK citizens that read this board and for them to understand anything, I really need to be very specific and state every detail.
Walking Street itself is at least 1 mile long that is not debatable. But, when you take into account the 6 or 7 Soi’s that stretch from 2nd road to Walking Street that all have 100’s of bars on them, and then the little roads that connect one Soi to another, this small area has way more than 3 miles of bars contained within it.
(Soi’s means roads or streets in Thai for UK nationals reading this; see I am getting better and explaining everything in great detail so you can understand perfectly.)
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Standard Price for a Go-Go Bar Girl
[QUOTE=MauiDude]
But now walking street they are all asking for 1500 to 2500 baht for short time?[/QUOTE]
First, the standard price for a Go-Go bar girl for short time is 1,500 Baht. But there is nothing standard about Pattaya, and the stunners will want more, so pay it if you like them.
The girls will often ask for 2,000 Baht for short time since they know you are going to negotiate with them. Thais love to negotiate for everything, and they think you are stupid if you don’t.
If they are asking for 2,500 for short time and will not drop their price, either they don’t like either you or your girl, or they think it will be too much work taking care of both of you.
Last night at a Go-Go I had a real stunner that I liked and she liked me. I bought her a drink and she was all over me and finally asked me to bar fine her. I asked her how much, she said “2,000 for short time or 3,000 for long time.”
I came back with “1,000 for short time or 1,500 for long time.” I then told her “It is up to you”, that is a famous saying in Thailand and you want to make sure you use it. It forces them to make a quick decision.
Then I told her, “Mi Bin Lie” which means “No Problem” in Thai, that I would just go out to Walking Street and get a girl for 1,000 Baht for short time and not have to pay the bar fin. About 3 seconds later she agreed to 1,000 for short time, since she knew I would not have any problem getting a girl on Walking Street for that amount.
For you guys coming here for the 1st time, learning how to negotiate with these girls is certainly going to be a little difficult at first. There is certainly an art to that comes with experience.
I will give you another example. On Soi 6 just as you enter the Soi from 2nd road there was a 9.5 with a set of DD’s which I just love. The first time I see her, I offer to buy her a drink. A little advice here, always offer to buy the girl a drink if you are interested in her. She gets a little money from it, but the reason I do it is so that I can talk to her and see how much fun she is and how horney she is.
I like her a lot and I ask her how much, she says 700 Baht, but the standard price on Soi 6 is 500 Baht and she won’t drop her price. I tell her why should I pay you 700 when there are another 1,000 girls I can only pay 500. She does not drop her price and I find somebody else.
A few days later when I am on Soi 6 she ask me if I will buy her a drink. I tell her do you go for 500, she says no again. I just wonder off and find somebody else I like. This same exact things happens 3 or 4 more times.
Finally on the 5th time, she ask me if I will buy her a drink. I ask her if she will go for 500 and this time she finally says yes. It just took a little while working on her.
Of course, if you are coming here for a few days or weeks, you cannot do that and if you find a girl you really like pay her what she is asking.
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Sois
[QUOTE=Chachi420]Can one of you lovely BM's please clear up a little confusion for me....
If I go to the top of Soi Diana and cross directly over Soi Buakow, will I be on Soi Leng Kee or Soi Chaiyapoon?
Help![/QUOTE]
To further clarify. As you reach Soi Buahkao, straight ahead is Soi LengKee as stated. But turn left on Buahkao and your next right is Chaiyapoon/Excite split road. Chaiya on the right fork and Excite on the left fork.
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami]...Finally on the 5th time, she ask me if I will buy her a drink. I ask her if she will go for 500 and this time she finally says yes. It just took a little while working on her...[/QUOTE]Man, you were very persistent in your effort to save 200 baht!
Was the sex with this busty girl any good?
BTW, I took a stroll down Soi 6 yesterday. There was an amazing number of women there!
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She was Fantastic
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Man, you were very persistent in your effort to save 200 baht!
Was the sex with this busty girl any good?
BTW, I took a stroll down Soi 6 yesterday. There was an amazing number of women there![/QUOTE]
It wasn’t the 200 Baht, you missed it. I did it because it was the principle of the thing and the fact that I had a 1,000 or more other options at 500 Baht.
By the way, she was fantastic and I have been with her 30 or more times now, which adds up to a savings of 6,000 Baht and growing by the week. But, then again, if she was not great, it would have only saved me 200 Baht.
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Hey Bill Miami
Thanks for the info. I have few questions to ask you since I'll be heading to Phuket and Pattaya in early November. YOu mentioned short term and long term with a girl at different rate. How long is short and long term? I'm looking forward to finding girls with DD cup size.
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A baht saved is a baht earned
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]It wasn’t the 200 Baht, you missed it. I did it because it was the principle of the thing and the fact that I had a 1,000 or more other options at 500 Baht.
By the way, she was fantastic and I have been with her 30 or more times now, which adds up to a savings of 6,000 Baht and growing by the week. But, then again, if she was not great, it would have only saved me 200 Baht.[/QUOTE]Good to know you are a man of of thrift [i]and[/i] principles. This is a trait often lacking in the mongering community!
And, don't worry, I didn't miss anything important in your post. [i]Chok dee![/i] ;)
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami]Second, I have to apologize, since I know there are many UK citizens that read this board and for them to understand anything, I really need to be very specific and state every detail.
(Soi’s means roads or streets in Thai for UK nationals reading this; see I am getting better and explaining everything in great detail so you can understand perfectly.)[/QUOTE]Wow, on behalf of all Brits we thank you.
Maybe you should have just kept on walking.
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Bar fines
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]First, the standard price for a Go-Go bar girl for short time is 1, 500 Baht. But there is nothing standard about Pattaya, and the stunners will want more, so pay it if you like them.
The girls will often ask for 2, 000 Baht for short time since they know you are going to negotiate with them. Thais love to negotiate for everything, and they think you are stupid if you don't.
If they are asking for 2, 500 for short time and will not drop their price, either they don't like either you or your girl, or they think it will be too much work taking care of both of you.[/quote]I am glad you are getting the prices down some so if I just negotiate then I am not the only one. But it is difficult for me to negotiate and too much of it then I don't feel like being with the girl.
But I did pay 1500 for a girl from walking street and one hot one I paid 2000.
So I know I over paid but now I am just walking away from them
I will in the future just tell them what I pay and take it or leave it. So thanks for your guide in what you are paying.
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Some musings on negotiating and prices
[QUOTE=MauiDude]I am glad you are getting the prices down some so if I just negotiate then I am not the only one. But it is difficult for me to negotiate and too much of it then I don't feel like being with the girl.
But I did pay 1500 for a girl from walking street and one hot one I paid 2000.
So I know I over paid but now I am just walking away from them
I will in the future just tell them what I pay and take it or leave it. So thanks for your guide in what you are paying.[/QUOTE]
Just some musings on this topic...
You can't really blame them for trying to quote a higher rate and see if you go with it. Negotiating for P4P isn't like negotiating a price of a used car, I try to pre-empt a negotiation by not asking how much, but just asking her if she wants to go with me for LT (I always LT at night) and then say 1,500 Baht. Most of them will say ok for this, some say "tilac, 2,000 baht...". Sometimes I agree to 2,000, but not very often. If she says something ridiculous I smile and say "I am not japanese"...
Keep smiling and make it a fun process, getting angry and "playing hardball" isn't going to do you any good in her eyes since once the negotiating is over then it will be followed by you getting to know her very very well so no need to create a bunch of bad will and hard feelings.
If a girl likes you and wants to go with you then she will get the negotiating over with pretty quickly, if she sticks to a silly price then this means she isn't that interested in going with you. It's not necessarily personal, some of the girls specifically look for japanese customers and have done their hair in a way that japanese men like etc so they don't want to go with other farangs.
I think the more time you spend with a girl before you bar fine her, being nice to her, buying her a drink or two, fondling her a bit this makes for a better price. (Alcoholic ones, a girl that asks for one of the "lady drinks" gets ditched instantly.)
Generally prices are higher and girls are more likely to try their luck early in the evening since there is a good chance another farang will come around if you don't take her, and also since if you take her out she loses the money she makes on drinking with customers, from dancing, etc for that evening.
Obviously being sober and showered helps get a better price too...
I think it's reasonable if you pay a bit more if you expect her to do both you and your GF since that is more work for her than if it is just you that she goes with. However, when I have taken out two girls from the same go-go they have never come down from the standard rate when I have said it's less work for them since they are two... :)
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St - Lt
[QUOTE=Steve Austin1]Hey Bill Miami
Thanks for the info. I have few questions to ask you since I'll be heading to Phuket and Pattaya in early November. YOu mentioned short term and long term with a girl at different rate. How long is short and long term? I'm looking forward to finding girls with DD cup size.[/QUOTE]
You need to try to clarify this with any girl you go with. The default assumption for ST is 1 hour but many girls will take the view that (1) this includes any time taken to get to your room, and (2) if as in all probability you come earlier than this she will disappear to the bathroom get dressed and say she's off now. This is especially true of the 500B beach rd girls. IN theory LT should be overnight but again you need to agree until what time. Some girls may have in mind leaving at 5-6 am in the morning, others can be happy to hang around until the early afternoon if they are having fun. Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning.
There are plenty of instances of bait and switch ie promising long time, then taking a call at 2am and coming up with a BS reason why she needs to go early.
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Thank you for the amazing update
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]Well gentlemen it has been a long time since my last post, so I thought I would.[/quote]Thank you Bill. Very informative and useful post.
I can't believe that before joining this forum Pattaya was not on my list of things to see in Thailand. I have now cancelled the Northern part of my trip just to spend more time in the South and in Pattaya (I have done Nth Thailand about 10 years ago anyway, so the new experiences that Pattaya has to offer will be much more... ah... cultural).
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[QUOTE=GregLondon] The default assumption for ST is 1 hour... Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning [QUOTE]Ahhh - OK, I had assumed that ST meant 1+ hours (basically until you had both stopped having fun - as long as it wasn't like 3+ hours), and that there wouldn't be such a hard limit (2 times all up) for LT.
This was just from reading some of the 'blow by blow' (pun intended) posts. As I still have not P4P'd in the region I will defer to your experience though. It kinda makes the LT price slightly less of a bargain for mongerers I guess (and the relatively small $/ THB difference make more sense though).
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short time long time?
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo][QUOTE=GregLondon] The default assumption for ST is 1 hour... Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning [QUOTE]Ahhh - OK, I had assumed that ST meant 1+ hours (basically until you had both stopped having fun - as long as it wasn't like 3+ hours), and that there wouldn't be such a hard limit (2 times all up) for LT.
This was just from reading some of the 'blow by blow' (pun intended) posts. As I still have not P4P'd in the region I will defer to your experience though. It kinda makes the LT price slightly less of a bargain for mongerers I guess (and the relatively small $/ THB difference make more sense though).[/QUOTE]A lot depends on the girl. I have paid girls for short time and they have stayed for a week and not even ask for money. I give them money of course.
And I have girls come long time and leave in a few hours with some excuse.
Also some of the short time girls just want to get it done and out.
I don't worry. I let them go. I don't pay for sex. I only pay for the time and its really up to them how long they stay.
But of course it try to keep them longer and have good sex but always their choice.
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Walking street tonight
Went out with my filipina girl. After three rounds with her in the room.
She was hitting on a virgin girl and tried to get her to come home with us. But the girl was too shy.
We went to cavern. It had some real sexy girls and nice.
The dancing is good in there with naked and half naked.
Went to the peppermint and its close to cavern and that had a lot of friendly and hot girls
Went upstairs sharks on soi 15. Not fun.
Across from angel witch a nice bar with friendly girls.
But is it me. All the girls keep looking fatter.
Maybe I am spoiled with a 38 kilo filipina that works out.
Had great time but not really excited by any of the girls?
Bought some drinks.
Is it crowded on walking street. Seems like a lot of people to me.
Okay go to Bangkok tomorrow.
Got a good deal on the dusit.
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[QUOTE=Steve Austin1]Hey Bill Miami
Thanks for the info. I have few questions to ask you since I'll be heading to Phuket and Pattaya in early November. YOu mentioned short term and long term with a girl at different rate. How long is short and long term? I'm looking forward to finding girls with DD cup size.[/QUOTE]
The definition of “Short Time” means until you are finished, if you know what I mean. The time duration could be anywhere from ˝ hour to 3 hours.
There are 3 standard locations for this experience, the first a short time room, which could be a room above the bar itself or a close by local hotel room. The girls actually prefer this, because it takes them less time to get paid.
There other two locations which could be either your hotel room or in my case my condo. The typical experience involves traveling to your selected location with you paying. Then each of you take a shower and then the deed is done.
Depending on how long you take to finish really determines how long this last. In my case, since I am usually pretty drunk, it takes quite a long time and the girls really have to work for their money.
The definition of “Long Time” is from whatever time you take her until the morning, which means whenever she wakes up. This could be between anywhere from 6Am till 10AM.
However, if you take her in the afternoon, you really need to be specific about the time frame.
During this time you can do it as many times as you want. You can do until you cannot walk anymore if you want. Or until her sensitive parts can no longer take any more action, if you know what I mean.
If you want to do it more than two or three times you will have to do most of the work. Whereas with short time the girl usually does most of the work.
I hope that helps a little.
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[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo][QUOTE=GregLondon] The default assumption for ST is 1 hour... Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning [QUOTE]Ahhh - OK, I had assumed that ST meant 1+ hours (basically until you had both stopped having fun - as long as it wasn't like 3+ hours), and that there wouldn't be such a hard limit (2 times all up) for LT.
This was just from reading some of the 'blow by blow' (pun intended) posts. As I still have not P4P'd in the region I will defer to your experience though. It kinda makes the LT price slightly less of a bargain for mongerers I guess (and the relatively small $/ THB difference make more sense though).[/QUOTE]
As others have said alot depends on the girl and the situation. Generally speaking the girls on Beach Rd are aiming to have 3-4 customers a day at 500-700B a go. Most of them will be looking to try to get you to come pretty quickly so that they can spend no more than 30-45 mins with you. Many will dash to the bathroom as soon as you have come to get dressed and make sure you dont think you will be getting a second round. Hopefully if you pay a premium or find a good one you will get better more relaxed service. Certainly if you have bar fined a girl and paid 1000-1500B for short time you should not accept this type of hurried service.
When reading these forums keep in mind that guys being guys tend to remember, and retell and often embellish their best experiences and quietly forget the less interesting ones LOL.
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Haha, yes the rose tinted glasses syndrome
[QUOTE=GregLondon] When reading these forums keep in mind that guys being guys tend to remember, and retell and often embellish their best experiences and quietly forget the less interesting ones LOL.[/QUOTE]Haha - Greg, I know what you mean - one tends to either put on rose tinted glasses or focus only on the negatives for reviews depending on the outcome of the whole experience.
I have to admit on my limited 'blow-by-blow' posts for Melbourne (where I live), I often leave out details that are perhaps pertinent because of my overall feeling from the experience, and because I tend to waffle and start writing a novella on the experience otherwise.
I still can't quite wrap my head around the THB 500 ST. That is as cheap as a packet of cigarettes in Aus. Oh Thailand, I can't wait.
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[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]I still can't quite wrap my head around the THB 500 ST. That is as cheap as a packet of cigarettes in Aus. Oh Thailand, I can't wait.[/QUOTE]By the way - how much is for one box of cigarretes in LOS, like Marlboro etc. Im asking as I am a smoker (I know, thats bad for me and "mr. hardy")
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[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]I still can't quite wrap my head around the THB 500 ST. That is as cheap as a packet of cigarettes in Aus. Oh Thailand, I can't wait.[/QUOTE]Well I thought paying 500 was a good deal too until a wise monger on the board said that I could actually get it for 300. Ever since then I have had no problems with them accepting 300 instead of 500. I mean I still won't mind paying 500, but I will always counter with 300 to see where that gets me. So far all takers.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon][QUOTE=Franco Cozzo][QUOTE=GregLondon] The default assumption for ST is 1 hour... Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning
As others have said alot depends on the girl and the situation. Generally speaking the girls on Beach Rd are aiming to have 3-4 customers a day at 500-700B a go. Most of them will be looking to try to get you to come pretty quickly so that they can spend no more than 30-45 mins with you. Many will dash to the bathroom as soon as you have come to get dressed and make sure you dont think you will be getting a second round. Hopefully if you pay a premium or find a good one you will get better more relaxed service. Certainly if you have bar fined a girl and paid 1000-1500B for short time you should not accept this type of hurried service.
When reading these forums keep in mind that guys being guys tend to remember, and retell and often embellish their best experiences and quietly forget the less interesting ones LOL.[/QUOTE]
Could you shed any light on duration fro ST on soi 6. If you were to take two girls upstairs would this lengthen the session or entitle one to the customary right of multi-shots?
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300 baht... Wow.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Well I thought paying 500 was a good deal too until a wise monger on the board said that I could actually get it for 300. Ever since then I have had no problems with them accepting 300 instead of 500. I mean I still won't mind paying 500, but I will always counter with 300 to see where that gets me. So far all takers.[/QUOTE]Wow Mr International, you have amazing negotiating skills.
I would like to know your style - is it just walk up to Cutey ask "short time" and not discuss money until you are paying? Or do you discuss money and make a lowball offer with the view to settle at 300 - 500 baht?
Thanks
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Two girls/Soi 6
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick][QUOTE=GregLondon][QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]
Could you shed any light on duration fro ST on soi 6. If you were to take two girls upstairs would this lengthen the session or entitle one to the customary right of multi-shots?[/QUOTE]
In my experience the 1 hour time limit for ST on Soi 6 is somewhat elastic. I've been with girls in the ST rooms for 1 hr 45 mins, with no hassle, mainly because we were both having a great time. It really does depend on the girl's mood (in particular) and yours.
I think the general rule that applies to taking one girl also applies to two girls. You certainly won't get 2 x 1 hour because you've taken two girls.
You will get the regular 1 hour + a bit of extra leniency if all goes well.
Also, bear in mind that if you take two girls to the ST room above the bar you have to pay the 300 baht ST room rate twice even though you're only renting 1 ST room.
I have tried on countless occassions to explian that it should only be 300 baht for the room because I'm only actually taking one room, but of course the bar sees it from their perspective and they want their cut (x2) for providing a shop window for the girl (s) to sell their wares.
BTW does anyone know of a bar on Soi 6 that let's you take 2 girls upstairs for the price of 1 room?
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami]The freelancers on Walking Street range in price from 500 Baht for an average looker to 1,000 Baht for a stunner and there is no bar fine involved. So these girls are without question the best deals in the city.[/QUOTE]how do you know if she is a freelancer or not? is there signs or do you just ask?
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[QUOTE=Huber]how do you know if she is a freelancer or not? is there signs or do you just ask?[/QUOTE]
The girls walking around are freelancers by definition because they are not attached to a bar.
However, if you are asking how do you know a Woman on Walking Street is a Wh*re? Then, no, there are no "signs" but there are plenty of signs.
Based on your question, you must not have visited Pattaya yet.. Better pack those bags my son!
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[QUOTE=Huber]how do you know if she is a freelancer or not? is there signs or do you just ask?[/QUOTE]
There are signs and no need to ask?
Signs, for example anything that is tall that has large feet and hands and when you look at them and they have a large and very happy to see you look "that is the biggest sign of all"! But only the smile is free?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Well I thought paying 500 was a good deal too until a wise monger on the board said that I could actually get it for 300. Ever since then I have had no problems with them accepting 300 instead of 500. I mean I still won't mind paying 500, but I will always counter with 300 to see where that gets me. So far all takers.[/QUOTE]
I always thought that the floor was 500 when I saw a punter in a car stop on beach road and flash three fingers to a not so attractive beach road girl which she subsequently rejected. It was low season too.
Does the time of day matter?
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[quote=bill miami]the definition of “long time” is from whatever time you take her until the morning, which means whenever she wakes up. this could be between anywhere from 6am till 10am.
however, if you take her in the afternoon, you really need to be specific about the time frame.
during this time you can do it as many times as you want. you can do until you cannot walk anymore if you want. or until her sensitive parts can no longer take any more action, if you know what i mean.
if you want to do it more than two or three times you will have to do most of the work. whereas with short time the girl usually does most of the work.
i hope that helps a little.[/quote]
i would like to add few things. very few working girls will let you do it more than 2 times. less number of times they do it less damage for their body. remember they are not horny, they get all the sex they want. very few may take a liking to you and screw your brains out many times.
in general asian girls will do it whenever you want it if they percieve to be your girlfriend. like my thai gf put it as " because you touch me" when i asked her about why she likes sex frequently.
just because you took a girl lt does not mean she is going to stay awake all night having sex with you. many will come out with excuses like tired, pussy hurt, suddenly feeling sick, stomach ache from some food etc. even after one time sex they may come up with her friend needs the house key, baby sick, mother sick etc to go home in spite of previously agreeing to stay with you the whole night.
even if they sleep with you there is no guarantee that they will you sex in the morning.
whatever you do never force any girl to have sex against her wishes. you will land up in big trouble like [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] even though the whole world knows they are prostitutes. the fact that you are paying barfine etc is for her companionship. sex with her is a foregone conclusion but there is nothing you can do to demand it.
to protect yourself ,
1. see if the chemistry is there between both of you before you pick her.
2. try short time first . you can always extend it to lt bt negotiation.
3. never give money upfront although some girls insist on it.
4. if a girl starts trouble in the room call hotel security to kick her out.
5. never show your weakness to the girl. these girls are trained to exploit
weakness.
6. last but not least be firm and in control.
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ABC of Pattaya for 1st time visitors
I have been to Pattaya several times. Every time, I learn something new. Instead of saying specificaly what happened on my trips, I would try to describe the scene. Those who have visited there before or who are frequent travelers may find this report too simplistic, but for someone new who have never been there but thinking about it, this report may help. This is my way of giving back to this Forum, where I have found many hellfull information.
First, before you travel, obviously, you planned where you will stay once you are there. Please read the Pattaya Hotel Forum to get ideas about which hotel is 'Guest Friendly', that is, which hotel will allow you to bring in a Guest (a girl) from outside after you have checked in the Hotel. As a general rule, you should book for 2 persons when making your booking. After all, the price is the same for 1 or 2 persons. If a name is required, be creative and just write down, 'A Guest' as first and last name in the boxes for the 2nd person! I would suggest, book a hotel for 2 days between Soi 6 and Soi 13, between Beach Road and 2nd Road. You can check the location map of the Hotel when booking to verify this. (Soi = Street or Road in Thai). Then you can change hotel once you are their when you find a hotel that better suits you.
Whether you are coming directly from the Airport or from Bangkok. Taxi will be the quickest ride and may cost you in the range of 1,000 Baht - 1300 Baht. For a cheaper option, you may take the Bus. Google 'Bell Travel Pattaya'.
After you have arrived in Pattaya and checked in to your hotel, take a mental map of your location comparative to roads around you. Ask the reception, which way is the beach road, which way is the 2nd road, which way the Soi goes higher/ lower etc.
Take a stroll down the roads and you will notice many bars where many Thai Girls are sitting. Depending on the time of the day, the number of girls and the clients (man) will vary. Famiarize with yourself with many restaurants and Malls that are near your location. You will find many stores in the Malls and restaurants provide world class items/ foods.
Now, the best time to go out and look for a companion (after all, that is what you are in Pattaya for), is in late afternoon/ evening. Depending on your comfort level and your desire, you may walk into one of the many Bars, where you can buy a Drink and sit down and see the girls available and may offer to buy a drink to one of them. If you feel a connection, you can ask the girl if she is willing to go with you. Now, please understand, the girl is there just for that purpose (unless you are in a Bar like a go-go bar where the Girl is a Dancer and may not go out with you at all or not before her shift ends). At this point, the payment for the time period she will spend with you will come up. Usually, this time period can basically be divided into two terms. They are: Short Time or ST and Long Term or LT. Depending on the location where you are picking up the girl, price will vary. As a general rule it is 500 Baht to 1,500 Baht for ST and 1,000 Baht to 2,500 for LT.
Another place that you can find a girl is on the Beach Road. As you take a stroll on the Beach Road (on the Beach Side), you will see many girls sitting or standing on the Road. They are there to go with you. If you observe, you will notice that a man (just like yourself) is talking to a girl and after a few minutes ( that is if the negotiation of price is successfull), they will walk away together hand in hand.
At the end of Beach Road, there is a road called 'Walking Street'. This road is famous for many Bars, Go-Go Bars, Shows etc. Like Bars on the Sois and Beach Road, you will find girls here too. Pattaya is a place where you will find Girl to meet needs and desires of all tastes.
When you meet a Girl in a Bar, most likely you have to pay a Fee (called a BarFine to the owner of that Bar), this is in addition to the cost for the Girl. You do not pay a fee to a girl you meet on Beach Road, as they are Free Lancers. While you may find the Beach Road girl costs less, remember that when you take her to your hotel and something bad happens, there is no place where you can trace her back.
When you negotiate a girl to go out with you, the 'Act of Sex' is understood to be included. Just remember, while you are paying for it, the act itself still will depend on the chemistry and connection that you two feel towards each other. If you don't care, then that's fine too!
When you have picked up a girl after the price negotiation, for either ST or LT, then you can take her to your hotel, take a shower and have sex and she may leave (for ST) or take your time with her and do other things (for LT). Don't expect her take a shower with you, and don't expect her to have sex with out a condom (which you shouldn't do either anyway). It is better to talk about what you want when you are negotiating.
One word of caution: You may come across someone who is a ladyboy, a man who looks like a girl and you may not be able to differentiate. Use common sense and question if you have doubts.
I have not visited all parts of the world and don't know how girls behave when it comes to giving companionship to man even when I am paying for it. The thing about Pattaya is: Thai girls are beautifull, the city is beautifull, the foods are tasty and importantly the price is reasonably low.
If your goal is to have fun with a girl and as much as you want, all you need is just to be here and it doesn't matter how you look or what other social skills you may lack. Having said that, remember that while you can have all fun you want, at the end of the day a Thai Girl is doing it for social/ economic reasons. Treat her nice and you will be treated nicely. Just because you are paying her, doesn't mean you have to be rude, inconsiderate or don't have to practice good hygienic behavior.
If you have not been there yet, but want too, THINK TWICE. Life will not be the same, after you visit Pattaya.
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Ny Desiman Great Report
Hello Ny Desiman,
That was a great report. After you have been here so long you forget about all the little details needed by newcomers, which you have added. I would only change two things about your report, which are mentioned below, hopefully you will not mind and I apologize if you do.
1) Unless you are staying at a high end hotel like the Marriott, Hilton or Hard Rock you really do not need to be concerned about booking a room for two people. All the hotels are so used to it now, if they did try to charge you this additional fee, they would not have any customers at all.
However, that was not always the case and years ago many hotels did attempted to do this.
2) If I was coming here for any longer than a week, I would only book a hotel over the internet for 2 days at the most. Once you get here you will not believe the number of hotels and the wide variety of them.
You can get a hotel room for as little as $10 up to $200. The hotel you book on the internet you might not like the room or location. In addition, without question, whatever you pay over the internet or through a travel agent will be at least 50% less when you walk in off the street.
In the afternoon, after you wake up just walk around the place a little exploring and you should be able to get an upgrade and a price reduction all at the same time.
It is very slow here now; not only Pattaya, but all of Thailand, so there are great hotel deals everywhere. If you are coming for 2 weeks or more you would actually be better off renting a condo for a month. You will get a higher quality room and the rate will be lower.
Ny Desiman, once again, fantastic report and I hope you do not mind my two minor adjustments to it.
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Thanks Bill Miami
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]
Hello Ny Desiman,
..... fantastic report and I hope you do not mind my two minor adjustments to it.[/QUOTE]
Not at all, Bill Miami. I am glad you liked it. You are right, in that, if you are visiting Pattaya for 1st time and intent to stay for a week or more, just book a medium priced hotel (USD 30 TO USD 50) for 2 days and then explore the location. You can always rebook your hotel or move to a new hotel just by walking 2 minutes. This may be difficult only between the months of December to February.
One other thing I forgot to add in my report: Both Beach Road and 2nd Road are one way streets. It is very easy to travel up and down these two roads as most of your activities will be confined between these two roads. There are Mini Buses/ Mini Trucks, whatever you want to call them, that has two rows of seat facing each other, that are traveling all the time on these roads. Price is 10 baht for any destination you want to travel on these roads only, just raise your hand if you want to get up and push the buzzer inside the car if you want to get down. Just a note, do not get into one that is parked on the road and is not picking up/ dropping off passengers.
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Thanks NY Desiman
Thank you NY Desiman,
Your report is very informative. Do any forum regulars know if there any way of requesting this is made into a report of distinction?
I think it will answer many of the questions that are frequently asked on this thread.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]Thank you NY Desiman,
Do any forum regulars know if there any way of requesting this is made into a report of distinction?
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It's already there.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2009[/url]
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Popper Valuations: Hotels in Pattaya
[b]Popper Valuations: Hotels in Pattaya[/b] has just been posted
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3145[/url]
All feedback, suggestions, and corrections are appreciated. Thanks for reading.
I wanted to thank Jackson for this OUTSTANDING forum. It has both saved and cost me lots of time. Without this forum, I would be completely at a loss.
Just as an example, I will probably be headed to Jakarta this Xmas break. I will now copy / paste the entire Jakarta forum, read it, and take notes on it. Since I first began lurking on this forum, perhaps as far back as 1998, have read probably ten thousand ISG pages and taken hundreds of pages notes from it (eg: Cebu, Manila, Jakarta, Suribuya, Bali, Bangkok, Phuket, Samui, Laos, Cuba, and other many places). Have learned very valuable info from it. This is the reason why I made this Pattaya Hotel Guide. It is my way of giving back to this forum.
Thanks to all who contributed.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were less churches and more wh0re houses.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann]It's already there.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2009[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks, I think Jackson maybe put it up because of my request - both posts were published at the same time... or it could have been a coincidence. Either way - another valuable resource is now at hand to point people to easily.
Cheers
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Does anyone know of a reliable place where one can pick up eastern europeans other than those places where they are dancing in the windows? I'm seeking something like CM2at Novotel is in Bangkok but in Pattaya.
Thanks
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FYI Photographers
For those of you that don't read Stickman's weekly column, he is reporting that the BIB are hanging out at the Ekkamai bus station and searching farang, especially those getting off the bus from Pattaya. One Stickman reader reports that they are also checking out peoples memory cards from their cameras, etc, probably looking for naughty pictures.
Edit: Stick also mentions that the bus does stop at Onnut before reaching Ekkamai so it might be advisable to get off there.
Be careful out there!
Thanks Stick!
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[QUOTE=Booey]For those of you that don't read Stickman's weekly column, he is reporting that the BIB are hanging out at the Ekkamai bus station and searching farang, especially those getting off the bus from Pattaya. One Stickman reader reports that they are also checking out peoples memory cards from their cameras, etc, probably looking for naughty pictures.
Edit: Stick also mentions that the bus does stop at Onnut before reaching Ekkamai so it might be advisable to get off there.
Be careful out there!
Thanks Stick![/QUOTE]
Am a big Stick fan. What kind of "naughty pictures" are they looking for? I posted many pictures from my Sony-Erricsson phone on this forum. All were clearly of legal age, and they just had no clothes on. Could this get me in trouble?
Recall from Sticky long ago, cops were looking for farangs who got off the Ekkamai bus station, looking for medical drugs obtained without a prescription. Things as antibiotics, etc. That to me really scary. As I understand it, this a result from the US Pharmaceutical companies pressuring congress to pressure the Thai Gov't to crack down on even legal drugs which Americans buy in Thailand for a fraction of US prices.
Sickening ...
--Popper
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[quote=popper1]am a big stick fan. what kind of "naughty pictures" are they looking for? i posted many pictures from my sony-erricsson phone on this forum. all were clearly of legal age, and they just had no clothes on. could this get me in trouble?
--popper[/quote]
honestly, i don't know what will get you into trouble or not, but with the reputation of the bib, i would err on the side of caution. it's my feeling that any naked picture that they find is going to cost you some baht. i'm sure that the ladies you were with were not ****, but can you prove it? remember, the bib want your $$ and i am sure they would happily accuse you of a myriad of offenses if they found some pictures of naked thai women. better to be safe than sorry, get off the bus at onnut.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]Am a big Stick fan. What kind of "naughty pictures" are they looking for? I posted many pictures from my Sony-Erricsson phone on this forum. All were clearly of legal age, and they just had no clothes on. Could this get me in trouble?
Recall from Sticky long ago, cops were looking for farangs who got off the Ekkamai bus station, looking for medical drugs obtained without a prescription. Things as antibiotics, etc. That to me really scary. As I understand it, this a result from the US Pharmaceutical companies pressuring congress to pressure the Thai Gov't to crack down on even legal drugs which Americans buy in Thailand for a fraction of US prices.
Sickening ...
--Popper[/QUOTE]It is true you can buy many antibiotics perfectly legally in Thailand with a perscription, but that is true in many other places. It is only in certain Western countries that governments and medical groups keep prices artificially high by insisting you need a prescription and stopping competition on even generic drugs. Which in the case of some drugs of obviously a good thing. If you do but antibiotics, get them from a respectable pharmacy. You often get asked whether you want the branded drugs or generics (which are much cheaper) for drugs which are out of patent. I have been known to take a course of Doxycycline home just in case something starts to itch.
BTW. Whilst you can buy genuine Viagra in Thailand without a perscription strictly you should have one (in Singapore as well) and most decent chemists require one. You can however buy it from some respectable places, typically for 2200 Baht for 4 100mg tabs (in a Pfizer box with the hologram thingy). Cut the things in half though. It is a heart drug after all so be careful.
J.
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[QUOTE=Johnsue]You can however buy it from some respectable places, typically for 2200 Baht for 4 100mg tabs (in a Pfizer box with the hologram thingy).[/QUOTE] Almost $20USD per tablet? Ok - we all can use an [i]assist[/i] once and a while, but that seems like an awefully high price. Gimme 4 SW's from Beach Road ST for the same price and I would hope that [u]variety[/u] does prove to be the spice of life.
SunLover
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[QUOTE=Johnsue]It is true you can buy many antibiotics perfectly legally in Thailand with a prescription, but that is true in many other places. It is only in certain Western countries that governments and medical groups keep prices artificially high by insisting you need a prescription and stopping competition on even generic drugs. Which in the case of some drugs of obviously a good thing. If you do but antibiotics, get them from a respectable pharmacy. You often get asked whether you want the branded drugs or generics (which are much cheaper) for drugs which are out of patent. I have been known to take a course of Doxycycline home just in case something starts to itch.
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This off topic perhaps, but just my two baht worth on medical. Am a [b]huge medical tourist[/b] . Whenever I head to Thailand (or RP / Indo), twice or three times a year I always get my teeth cleaned for about 800 baht. Often swap a filling for about the same price. As I posted before, one of my bar gals had a molar which was black. I paid a dentist for her molar pulled, x-rays, and medicine (800/b to pull, 200/b for X-ray, and 200/b for medicine for total 1200 baht). Cost in the States ... completely nuts!
Here an example how I compare the US and Thai medial. Whenever in Thailand, get some Diclox. Sometimes I get skin problems which can get serious. Cost is figure 2 baht a tablet, so whenever I get an inflammation, cost in the 60 baht range. Few years ago in the States had an inflammation. Of course, cannot get generic diclox over the counter. So appointment to see some damn doctor. They wanted to know my life history, and of course the most important: medical insurance. Finally out the door. Got the diclox prescription. Go to pharm. Not only lost a day, and cost was over $200.
So I do ask ... which system is better. Gee, I wonder: 2 minutes and 60 baht or loss of a day and cost over $200. Cost of medical in the States would kill anyone. And now under Patriot, anyone who brings diclox / any medical scripts back to the States is practically considered a terrorist !
Anyway, don't get me started. Point is that am a huge proponent of medical tourism, and Thailand is a great place for it.
--Popper
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[QUOTE=Popper1]This off topic perhaps, but just my two baht worth on medical. Am a [b]huge medical tourist[/b] . Whenever I head to Thailand (or RP / Indo), twice or three times a year I always get my teeth cleaned for about 800 baht. Often swap a filling for about the same price. As I posted before, one of my bar gals had a molar which was black. I paid a dentist for her molar pulled, x-rays, and medicine (800/b to pull, 200/b for X-ray, and 200/b for medicine for total 1200 baht). Cost in the States ... completely nuts![/QUOTE]In the States they told me that I would need a root canal on top of one that I had gotten in the navy 20 years ago. This was going to cost me $300 with insurance. I went to the dentist in Thailand and she said I only needed to get it refilled. She didn't take x-rays or anything. She drilled out and refilled 2 of my teeth without drugs and I didn't feel anything. 800 baht. And I paid 700 baht the next day for a heavy duty deep cleaning which hurt worse than the drilling and filling. Two years have gone by and I haven't had any more problems.
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[QUOTE=Johnsue]It is true you can buy many antibiotics perfectly legally in Thailand with a perscription, but that is true in many other places. It is only in certain Western countries that governments and medical groups keep prices artificially high by insisting you need a prescription and stopping competition on even generic drugs. Which in the case of some drugs of obviously a good thing. If you do but antibiotics, get them from a respectable pharmacy. You often get asked whether you want the branded drugs or generics (which are much cheaper) for drugs which are out of patent. I have been known to take a course of Doxycycline home just in case something starts to itch.
J.[/QUOTE]
My experience is that they would sell you any drug without caring if you have a prescription or not.
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[QUOTE=Sunlover2]Almost $20USD per tablet? Ok - we all can use an [i]assist[/i] once and a while, but that seems like an awefully high price. Gimme 4 SW's from Beach Road ST for the same price and I would hope that [u]variety[/u] does prove to be the spice of life.
SunLover[/QUOTE]$20/pill seems to be the going price for genuine Viagra the world over. When it first came out I was able to go to the doctor in the States and get a prescription. A 30 day supply would cost me $20 with my insurance and since I didn't use it I would sell it to my friends for $10 each. Those days have long been over.
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[QUOTE=Popper1]This off topic perhaps, but just my two baht worth on medical. Am a [b]huge medical tourist[/b] . Whenever I head to Thailand (or RP / Indo), twice or three times a year I always get my teeth cleaned for about 800 baht. Often swap a filling for about the same price. As I posted before, one of my bar gals had a molar which was black. I paid a dentist for her molar pulled, x-rays, and medicine (800/b to pull, 200/b for X-ray, and 200/b for medicine for total 1200 baht). Cost in the States ... completely nuts!
Here an example how I compare the US and Thai medial. Whenever in Thailand, get some Diclox. Sometimes I get skin problems which can get serious. Cost is figure 2 baht a tablet, so whenever I get an inflammation, cost in the 60 baht range. Few years ago in the States had an inflammation. Of course, cannot get generic diclox over the counter. So appointment to see some damn doctor. They wanted to know my life history, and of course the most important: medical insurance. Finally out the door. Got the diclox prescription. Go to pharm. Not only lost a day, and cost was over $200.
So I do ask ... which system is better. Gee, I wonder: 2 minutes and 60 baht or loss of a day and cost over $200. Cost of medical in the States would kill anyone. And now under Patriot, anyone who brings diclox / any medical scripts back to the States is practically considered a terrorist !
Anyway, don't get me started. Point is that am a huge proponent of medical tourism, and Thailand is a great place for it.
--Popper[/QUOTE]
Popper,
Your insight regarding this topic of being a big fan of " medical tourist " and your above opinion is only a small percentage of what the dental and medical is all about.
My views are from living here studing their system and have studied all the major medical insurance policies that are offered. I have visited Bumrungrad posing as a writer so that I can get a free tour of their entire facility and have visit all the major hospital in Pattaya, Chon Buri, Sattahip and BPH, and have personally been raked over by BPH and insurance companies.
Regarding Dental, there are many facilities to choose from and when it comes to Thai own and run many don't use proper cleaning methods products and nearly all can give you a cheap cleaning but rarely do they even polish your teeth or give your a proper preventive examine like dept measurements for your gums. Even many of the western foreign owns have their short comings and the many that I have visited I have narrow down to two that I feel comfortable visiting in Pattaya. My views are from having worked in a family dental lab on and off and from a few of my cousins being dentist is the U.S. the general consenses from them is that if there is one good profession to be in that is dentistry since it is a " license to steal " . But in the end in Thailand it is still cheap enough that is it cheaper than the deductiable you have to pay in the U.S. for the same dental work.
Now when it comes to medical the great thing about Thailand is you can get lots of pills and if you needs pills like antibiotics, lipitor, it is available and many are cheap. But as noted it is a very small percentage of what the system is all about! You will find it nearly impossible to locate a medical building loaded with all kinds of specialty doctors like in the U.S. in which you can be refer too! Here you go to a nice big hospital see a Internal medicine doctor and most likely will learn as they go along. When it comes to prices yes I will join you in beating down the U.S. for it's high cost but when you hear people say the U.S. has the best medical system and research and you live, see experience what I have here in Thailand, particularly here in Pattaya you won't convince me in a million years that it isn't! There are only two hospital I would trust in Thailand in general and that is Bumrungrad and the hospital the King stays other than that most are all show and no go. But if I got sick or hurt and have no say in the matter I will save my energy and just pray for the best?
You quoted only one point of view in a topic that was discussed back in late September. More reading and RTFF is necessary but if you are a tourist and know what kind of pills you want you are in good hands other than that start praying if it becomes more than a pill!
LBM
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[QUOTE=MadMax1]Can anyone recommend a good dentist in Pattaya?
I used to visit a dentist in the building complex next to McDonalds on 2nd Road, but on my last visit I found that it had closed down.[/QUOTE]
M.M,
On this thread go back to 8/6/10 19:31, these are two of best I have found.
Particularly if you are in a hurry and need a root canal, crown etc... they have a on-site lab and could do crowns in 2 days use German etc..
LBM
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Buddhist Holiday this weekend
Just to warn you guys, this weekend is a large Buddhist Holiday. All Bas will be closed and beer sale will be stopped so stock up. You can still buy beer at Mom and Pop Thai stores but there are not many around if you’re staying in the heart of Pattaya. Government offices will be closed on Monday so if you need a visa like I do think ahead. 500 Bath fine if you go over.
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[QUOTE=Oyster Lover]Just to warn you guys, this weekend is a large Buddhist Holiday. All Bas will be closed and beer sale will be stopped so stock up. You can still buy beer at Mom and Pop Thai stores but there are not many around if you’re staying in the heart of Pattaya. Government offices will be closed on Monday so if you need a visa like I do think ahead. 500 Bath fine if you go over.[/QUOTE]
What's the best way to meet girls when the bars are closed?
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Evian, The Coconut Bar, alias Beach road, there will be plenty of girls there for you.
Also many of the bars will have girls there but not selling alcohol, just cups of coffee.:)
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For real?
Wow, that's a bummer as I'm here in Pats now. Didn't know that. What day does it start and finish? I presume all of Walking St will be closed then? Same in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Oyster Lover]Just to warn you guys, this weekend is a large Buddhist Holiday. All Bas will be closed and beer sale will be stopped so stock up. You can still buy beer at Mom and Pop Thai stores but there are not many around if you’re staying in the heart of Pattaya. Government offices will be closed on Monday so if you need a visa like I do think ahead. 500 Bath fine if you go over.[/QUOTE]
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Beach Road update
Keep in mind that while the numbers of girls available overall is fairly 'normal' (not what it once was years ago, but not terrible), there will be very few girls after about 11:00 or 12:00 PM. At around that time there is a regular crackdown and roundup, which results in a 500 baht fine for the girls (or presumably some time in the jail), so most girls disappear around that time. If you watch at that time you can often see them running away from the beach rapidly in fear of the cops.
Interestingly I also noticed that certain sections of the BR are almost empty of girls, while certain other sections are jam-packed. Could it be the cops are pushing them away from certain areas?
In any case, be warned. I've often found myself unable to get laid after midnight, which is really my main time for the practice.
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Beach roads girls
Hi
Are the Beach-roads girls willing to do anal sex ?
Thanks
BL
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[QUOTE=Sammon]
5. Never show your weakness to the girl. These girls are trained to exploit
weakness.
6. Last but not least be firm and in control.[/QUOTE]
Two of the best pieces of advice I've seen on this board in a long time!
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Keep in mind that while the numbers of girls available overall is fairly 'normal' (not what it once was years ago, but not terrible), there will be very few girls after about 11:00 or 12:00 PM. At around that time there is a regular crackdown and roundup, which results in a 500 baht fine for the girls (or presumably some time in the jail), so most girls disappear around that time. If you watch at that time you can often see them running away from the beach rapidly in fear of the cops.
Interestingly I also noticed that certain sections of the BR are almost empty of girls, while certain other sections are jam-packed. Could it be the cops are pushing them away from certain areas?
In any case, be warned. I've often found myself unable to get laid after midnight, which is really my main time for the practice.[/QUOTE]
Does anybody know where these BR girls go, when they are not in BR? I am sure they are not at home .....
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[QUOTE=Sumart]Does anybody know where these BR girls go, when they are not in BR? I am sure they are not at home .....[/QUOTE]Many of BR girls stay next to soi Bukhao soi diana soi honey soi chaiyapoon. The most attractive and young of them often have a thai boyfriend (pimp ?). Now I understand why some of them do not want french kiss or stay for LT as well. So be careful and treat them respectfully.
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[QUOTE=Sumart]Does anybody know where these BR girls go, when they are not in BR? I am sure they are not at home .....[/QUOTE]LOL. Don't you go home when you finish work? They are people not machines.
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I've been told that the bars are only closed on Saturday, not on Friday too.
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i will use the word " in general " instead of most?
regardless of their situation these girls usually share a cheap thai style room, no a/c, no furniture, just empty close to their working location so they don't have to even spend money to get to their working location by motorbike taxi. they will share this room with another working girl and seldom will they ever let you know or bring you to their room unless they have a future motive.
in general they are so tired that once they are done, they go home and sleep until it's time to do it again. if you want to call them pimps but personally the exact term and definition for a thai boyfriend that knows his girls job (p4p) is nothing but a selfish leach! if you ever see a pack of dogs roaming around a soi, looking for that one female dog in heat so they can pull a train best defines a thai boyfriend! don't expect them to be home taking care of the household necessities they are out speeding around town in the fino that was purchase by the girl laying on their backs they are out spending their hard earn money sitting and drinking leo beer. they couldn't care a rat ass whether she st/lt or french kiss as long as the gravy trains continues and when she is pregnant its' casper time " for them!
lbm
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[quote=littlebigman]i will use the word " in general " instead of most?
regardless of their situation these girls usually share a cheap thai style room, no a/c, no furniture, just empty close to their working location so they don't have to even spend money to get to their working location by motorbike taxi. they will share this room with another working girl and seldom will they ever let you know or bring you to their room unless they have a future motive.
in general they are so tired that once they are done, they go home and sleep until it's time to do it again. if you want to call them pimps but personally the exact term and definition for a thai boyfriend that knows his girls job (p4p) is nothing but a selfish leach! if you ever see a pack of dogs roaming around a soi, looking for that one female dog in heat so they can pull a train best defines a thai boyfriend! don't expect them to be home taking care of the household necessities they are out speeding around town in the fino that was purchase by the girl laying on their backs they are out spending their hard earn money sitting and drinking leo beer. they couldn't care a rat ass whether she st/lt or french kiss as long as the gravy trains continues and when she is pregnant its' casper time " for them!
lbm[/quote]
over the years i have been privy to some of the girl's rooms and lbm sums it up perfectly. also living in the village, i see many bar girls returning home, many pregnant, father unknown until the child is born, when invariably the father would have been thai!
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1]Over the years I have been privy to some of the girl's rooms and LBM sums it up perfectly. Also living in the village, I see many bar girls returning home, many pregnant, father unknown until the child is born, when invariably the father would have been Thai![/QUOTE]
As Bumholes knows very well. It works in reverse too! Innocent girls gets pregnant in the village same things happens the Thai man or usually boy takes off. The girl has the baby and leaves to work in P4P, the parents are left with the child to raise with the promise they will send money back. Basically the child leaves the child it is a sad revolving door! With very basic education the parents in their hearts know whats the new profession but the culture allows it to slide as long as the money comes in. Years down the road the child knows who is the real mother but in their hearts feel more attached to the grandparents than to the birth mother. ( Clarification not always the case ). There are some evil hearted grandparents that take advantage if the girl is successful and start sending money. They use the child to obtain more money each month using excuses that they are sick etc,,,etc,,,so they don't have to work! you get the point. And god help them or you if the grandparents found out that they latch on to a Farang!
This isn't always the case but I have been around Thai's enough now that I hear case after case after case. I wish I get some good news from time to time about Thai men but after years here still the same case stories. That is why you hear from P4P women speaks badly about Thai men and place us Farang as a better catch but if we Farangs remotely do the things a Thai man does they go crazy but for a useless Thai it's o.k. and acceptable? which enforces my thinking and opinion of a Thai man or boy?
LBM
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Can anyone confirm or correct this?
I was eating with a bunch of girls last night and they all emphatically denied that anything like this was happening at all this weekend. Not that that means anything of course :-)
[QUOTE=Evianist]I've been told that the bars are only closed on Saturday, not on Friday too.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Artful]Can anyone confirm or correct this?
I was eating with a bunch of girls last night and they all emphatically denied that anything like this was happening at all this weekend. Not that that means anything of course :-)[/QUOTE]
I asked several girls last night too, and they didn't know anything about it.
So I asked my hotel and they said Saturday only, but it didn't seem like they were 100% sure either.
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[QUOTE=Evianist]I asked several girls last night too, and they didn't know anything about it.
So I asked my hotel and they said Saturday only, but it didn't seem like they were 100% sure either.[/QUOTE]
October 23rd, is suppose to be normally Chulalongkon Memorial day or something like that? But if the girls don't know for sure then expect bars being open and business as usual?
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]October 23rd, is suppose to be normally Chulalongkon Memorial day or something like that? But if the girls don't know for sure then expect bars being open and business as usual?[/QUOTE]
It IS Chulalonghorn Day, which itself has no bearing on alcohol sales. However it it the night of the full moon, and the end of Buddhist Lent - a very special religious day, and it is for this reason that alcohol sales might be banned in various places.
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[QUOTE=Sumart]Does anybody know where these BR girls go, when they are not in BR? I am sure they are not at home .....[/QUOTE]
Actually it isn't that unusual for them to go back to their hometown for a couple of weeks or so. But mostly if you don't see your favorite girl, chances are very high she's in jail.
Under the new crackdown, when the girls are rounded up they get drug tested and sent to jail for around 1-3 months if found positive, and merely fined 500 baht if negative. This is the main reason the numbers, quality, and service levels are down so much from the old days. There is a high correlation between slimness/service and drugs usage, so we're mostly left with the chubby poor-service ones.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]As Bumholes knows very well. It works in reverse too! Innocent girls gets pregnant in the village same things happens the Thai man or usually boy takes off. The girl has the baby and leaves to work in P4P, the parents are left with the child to raise with the promise they will send money back. Basically the child leaves the child it is a sad revolving door! With very basic education the parents in their hearts know whats the new profession but the culture allows it to slide as long as the money comes in. Years down the road the child knows who is the real mother but in their hearts feel more attached to the grandparents than to the birth mother. ( Clarification not always the case ). There are some evil hearted grandparents that take advantage if the girl is successful and start sending money. They use the child to obtain more money each month using excuses that they are sick etc,,,etc,,,so they don't have to work! you get the point. And god help them or you if the grandparents found out that they latch on to a Farang!
This isn't always the case but I have been around Thai's enough now that I hear case after case after case. I wish I get some good news from time to time about Thai men but after years here still the same case stories. That is why you hear from P4P women speaks badly about Thai men and place us Farang as a better catch but if we Farangs remotely do the things a Thai man does they go crazy but for a useless Thai it's o.k. and acceptable? which enforces my thinking and opinion of a Thai man or boy?
LBM[/QUOTE]
It is quite natural for parents of any girl to see their daughter well settled with money and family. It is also natural for the girl to fool around in teenage years and try to find one or many boyfriends depending on how her sexuality is. Along the way an uncle or neighbour or local money man will hit the jackpot and get into her pants. Locals are not bothered with age or minor problem. Once the girl gets pregnant most boys leave them although some will marry and have a family life. Grand parents in asian culture are quite happy to raise the child. I have heard even from people who are married and working in BKK saying their children are at home in the provinces raised by grand parents.
As for P4P girls once the child is born she is literally pushed out of home to find a job to support her child if her parents are poor. Once out there is no ready employment. But many start out working in factories under dingy conditions for small money. Some not all get into the P4P trade. Once they see the good money it is very unlikely they will leave the business unless she finds a foreigner who marries her and takes her out of the country.
Western people compared to asian men have no qualms about marrying a girl irrespective of her past.
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Was at dollhouse tonight. Bought a drink for a girl and right after that someone she knew walked in and she took off to see him.
When I was going to pay my bill I mentioned it to the waitress and asked if I needed to pay for the lady drink. Another girl corroborated, and the waitress said no problem and didn't make me pay.
Unexpected, but I was pleasantly surprised at how cool they were about it.
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[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hi
Are the Beach-roads girls willing to do anal sex ?
Thanks
BL[/QUOTE]
Check out some of my posts especially the one with Kwang. Some will do it and some wont. I get lucky but asking a girl who I have been with before what girls will do it and which ones wont. Networking works in this instance.
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Showdown is out of the mongering lifestyle-a cautionary tale
This is not a sob story guys. But rather a cautionary tale.
I am out of the game. Finished. Mongering days are over. It’s one of those moments when you are enlightened about something.
As a I reported previously I had gotten involved with a girl working at a high end massage place in Pattaya. She is a nice women, is very honest, never ask for money, and always talks about our future. I have spent a great deal of time with her when she is not working(in fact much to her bosses patience she has taken a lot of time off since we met to spend time with me).
As I spent hour after hour with her I realized that this women and I had connected in a way I did not expect and frankly never experienced. I found myself sitting at her Bangkok Bank branch as she asked me how to invest the 100’s of thousands she had in the bank. We started talking about that she intended to stop working in January for good(she actually showed me a notarized agreement that she was buying some land in her hometown in January 2011 to build her house on). I started planning a future with her that included sharing our lives. Ensuring we would be happy here and overcome the pitfalls that most relationships in Thailand experience. Loving and sharing but keeping our assets separate.
Then it happened.
She went to work one day and for some reason I found myself on a baht bus there to the massage parlor she worked at. I don’t know why I did it. As I stood in front of it my throat closed and my stomach turned to knots. I knew that this women I cared so deeply for was inside doing BJ, FS, Doggy etc with countless men that day. And the day before. And for the previous 12 months. I thought of how many men she had slept with and what specifically done with them to accumulate the hundreds of thousands (if not more given she has two new motorbikes and is buying a new care next month) of baht she had accumulated. As time went one(I must have stood in front of this parlor for 30 minutes with this pit in my stomach) I saw countless man-Indians, overweight Germans, loud Americans and Japanese-all streaming in and out. And I saw this women I cared for being fucked by each and every one of them. She had explained to my previously that she was careful with her work-no anal, no kissing, no DATY and no BJ sans condom. Yet for some reason that did not soothe my pain at all.
I suddenly felt the cold chill of the human side of prostitution. The thrill of the 500 baht FS girl, the anal, facials all suddenly disgusted me. I was disgusted with myself. The women I cared so deeply for was a pawn to men just like me. When I had sex with her I was always careful to ask her if it was ok-after all she was having sex all day(the girls work 11 hour shifts at the high end parlors) and she could be sore etc.
I then saw myself getting on a baht bus, going to my hotel and leaving Pattaya. Something changed in me. And I don’t think I will ever return to Pattaya or speak to her again. Not because she is a bad person. But because it is impossible to love one of these women when they are doing what they do. Even after they stop (and I wholeheartedly believe she was going to stop in January as she said) to live with several more months of her being fucked to death by countless men is too much for me.
The moral of the story is to not fall in love with any of these girls. You will wind up broken hearted, disgusted with yourself and a changed man. If I ever patronize a prostitute again it will not be for a very very long time from now. For if I did I would see the face of the women I care for and I feel like I should not take advantage of these girls anymore. It’s a sad business and I no longer want to partake in it.
Signing off for good. Take care guys.
Showdown
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[QUOTE=Showdown]This is not a sob story guys. But rather a cautionary tale.
Showdown[/QUOTE]
The problem here is dis-respect and ignorance...if you act on ignorance you make bad choices in life.
The whole problem with your assessment is you saw 100's of men Indians, Arabs, Japanese, and over weight Germans going after her. Now the ignorance is you don't know any of them...you assumed all men that she had are bad and low life's.
If only you knew any of the guys better...most of them probably will be better than us in behavior and respect to the girls. I have met iranians, Japanese, Americans, Thais, english, filipinos, chinese etc mongers and all guys were top notch guys who respect women...mongering is not a bad choice or hobby...
If you monger in Thailand and fall in love with a massage or bar girl..it is expected that she will do service with many men...what you missed is....you think all men are bad who go with bar girls....it is a wrong assumption.
Don't go back to stone age or Taliban mentality man...its her job to service men... and men that go to her are not BAD..they are like you and me..who can't take up with feminine women back home.
If you like her and know her job...whats wrong....clear your head...its all Ignorance...if i met a girl whom i liked...i won't care if she slept with the entire planet.....You are lucky...you are missing the whole beauty and love you are gonna have with her ..it will overcome all your Ignorance..good luck
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[QUOTE=Showdown]This is not a sob story guys. But rather a cautionary tale.
I am out of the game. Finished. Mongering days are over. It’s one of those moments when you are enlightened about something.
As a I reported previously I had gotten involved with a girl working at a high end massage place in Pattaya. She is a nice women, is very honest, never ask for money, and always talks about our future. I have spent a great deal of time with her when she is not working(in fact much to her bosses patience she has taken a lot of time off since we met to spend time with me).
As I spent hour after hour with her I realized that this women and I had connected in a way I did not expect and frankly never experienced. I found myself sitting at her Bangkok Bank branch as she asked me how to invest the 100’s of thousands she had in the bank. We started talking about that she intended to stop working in January for good(she actually showed me a notarized agreement that she was buying some land in her hometown in January 2011 to build her house on). I started planning a future with her that included sharing our lives. Ensuring we would be happy here and overcome the pitfalls that most relationships in Thailand experience. Loving and sharing but keeping our assets separate.
Then it happened.
She went to work one day and for some reason I found myself on a baht bus there to the massage parlor she worked at. I don’t know why I did it. As I stood in front of it my throat closed and my stomach turned to knots. I knew that this women I cared so deeply for was inside doing BJ, FS, Doggy etc with countless men that day. And the day before. And for the previous 12 months. I thought of how many men she had slept with and what specifically done with them to accumulate the hundreds of thousands (if not more given she has two new motorbikes and is buying a new care next month) of baht she had accumulated. As time went one(I must have stood in front of this parlor for 30 minutes with this pit in my stomach) I saw countless man-Indians, overweight Germans, loud Americans and Japanese-all streaming in and out. And I saw this women I cared for being fucked by each and every one of them. She had explained to my previously that she was careful with her work-no anal, no kissing, no DATY and no BJ sans condom. Yet for some reason that did not soothe my pain at all.
I suddenly felt the cold chill of the human side of prostitution. The thrill of the 500 baht FS girl, the anal, facials all suddenly disgusted me. I was disgusted with myself. The women I cared so deeply for was a pawn to men just like me. When I had sex with her I was always careful to ask her if it was ok-after all she was having sex all day(the girls work 11 hour shifts at the high end parlors) and she could be sore etc.
I then saw myself getting on a baht bus, going to my hotel and leaving Pattaya. Something changed in me. And I don’t think I will ever return to Pattaya or speak to her again. Not because she is a bad person. But because it is impossible to love one of these women when they are doing what they do. Even after they stop (and I wholeheartedly believe she was going to stop in January as she said) to live with several more months of her being fucked to death by countless men is too much for me.
The moral of the story is to not fall in love with any of these girls. You will wind up broken hearted, disgusted with yourself and a changed man. If I ever patronize a prostitute again it will not be for a very very long time from now. For if I did I would see the face of the women I care for and I feel like I should not take advantage of these girls anymore. It’s a sad business and I no longer want to partake in it.
Signing off for good. Take care guys.
Showdown[/QUOTE]
I do not know why you worry about how many guys she slept with. It is her job. She survived and made money before you came along. She will survive long time after you are gone. Unless you meet and marry a virgin girl you are not sure how many guys any girl slept with or continue to sleep with even if they are not working girl. When you go out on a date in your hometown do you ask the girl how many men she slept with? Even if she slept with you and you like her are you going to analyze her sex life before you?
If you really and truly in love with girl knowing what she does for a living you should be thankfull if she loves you. Why didn't you give her money and take care of her so that she can quit her job and be with you. I do not think you are thinking of long time married relationship with her. You just want to use her services like everybody else and dump her. First of all you knew what she does and knowingly wanted a relationship with her. It is not like she conned you into thinking she is a different type of girl. Nobody knows what stupid empty promises you made to her. You could have easily ruined her working potential by your promises to take care of her.
You are god almighty to judge her with in your words she is sleeping with low life men. What makes you think you are better? You are also another monger. Maybe a lowlife to boot.
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Don't be silly.
[QUOTE=Showdown]This is not a sob story guys. But rather a cautionary tale.[/QUOTE]It seems to me that you are throwing away the opportunity to be with a woman that loves you for YOU and NOT for your money.
You knew her job when you met her. You knew what she was doing each day she went to work. OK, you kept your head in the sand and kept yourself in denial. BUT, she is still the woman you loved so don't be silly with yourself.
Rationalise it logically. She fucks for a living and comes home to you. It is her job; she has no emotional attachment. Is that better or worse than the millions of woman round the world who go to swingers parties and get gangbanged and still have a happy loving marriage? For your lady to be in the open with you is a thousand times better than the millions of women who have affairs behind their partner's back.
Bear in mind many of the working girls in Pattaya and all around the world have a partner and family in their private life.
Suffer it for a short while and live a long happy life.
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[QUOTE=Showdown]This is not a sob story guys. But rather a cautionary tale.
I am out of the game. Finished. Mongering days are over. It’s one of those moments when you are enlightened about something.[/QUOTE]I once read that a true measure of maturity in adults is accepting the concept of “grey” instead of trying to make everything in life black and white - which they rarely are – because it provokes thought and compromise, etc. I’m sure you know this at least sub-consciously or you would not have made it this far. I find that I get lazy and regress (as its much easier) and have to remind myself occasionally and always with big issues. Maybe time for you to re-think this one…or not. Only you know.
Good story though…
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212]I once read that a true measure of maturity in adults is accepting the concept of “grey” instead of trying to make everything in life black and white - which they rarely are – because it provokes thought and compromise, etc. I’m sure you know this at least sub-consciously or you would not have made it this far. I find that I get lazy and regress (as its much easier) and have to remind myself occasionally and always with big issues. Maybe time for you to re-think this one…or not. Only you know.
Good story though…[/QUOTE]After getting many PM's and reading everyones responses I am surprised. Some of the responses make clear you did not read anything I wrote nor felt the emotion involved.
First to the poster who called me a low life-you are perhaps the worst of them all. My reaction as I stood at the MP was one of shock. I never claimed to not know what she did for a living-but rather when the true reality of it hit home it was a serious jolt. It is no different than if you witness a person do their job and they have a job that causes you distress. Though an extreme example the Tom Hanks movie where he played a gangster-his family knew what he did yet when his son actually saw him in action it really hit home. I care deeply for this women and the REALITY of it pained me deeply. So to the poster that labeled me as a lowlife-you need to return to school and learn reading comprehension.
Now my description of the various men coming in and out was a description of the scene. Their was no attack on any race, group or creed. Reading comprehension problems are abound on this forum. And this women made it clear from day one she was not interested in my or any other mans financial support. Period. And let's be frank-you would be hard pressed to find one percent of these girls that are proud of what they have to do for a living. They all keep it from their families though their families may have their suspicions. Just ask them. Of all of the responses none of them addressed the human element of this. And no man that claims to love a women can feel comfortable with other men screwing her. You can say it doesn't matter but sooner or later it will.
Their is a face on the other end of that cumshot and it certainly isn't ours. Listen I am not here to debate prostitution. Rather I wanted to share what can happen when you do fall for one of these girls and the TRUE REALITY of what they do for a living HITS HOME. I have gotten many PM's from forum members saying they have been in the same situation and it knocked the wind out of them. But the one message I received from all responses sans the member with reading comprehension issues was to not give up on it but to try to work through it. So after many PM's from folks that atleast showed understanding I reached out to her. She was relieved and said that SHE was worried that the REALITY of what her job was hit home-she said this. So I am trying to work my way through this. One member wrote I was giving up a fantastic women-and I think he is right. So I am trying to work my way through it. Thanks for the good advice.
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Afternoon catch
Gentlemen
I know I should RTFF for this info and I am sure its there but would some senior Pattaya expert please advise where to go for a sure catch (to bring back to hotel) in the afternoons. I am aware of soi 6 but thats for on the spot relief I am looking for somewhere (other than beach road) where one can find a decent collection to pick from and head for the hotel for some afternoon action. Thanks in advance to whoever guides me.
DD
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]1
Personally if you GF is genuinely up for it (and some will just talk about it as a fantasy but not be so keen in reality), i would go for it. I think it can potentially be alot of fun. Finding two Thai girls who are up for genuine lesbian action threesomes at a reasonable cost is not that easy so if you already have one girl it will be easier.
Provided your relationship is on firm ground i think a trip to pattaya runs far less risk than the girl in the office or through the internet back home scenario. If your girl is good looking and has a rapport because she speaks your language etc I don't think she will feel threatened by Thai working girls and you will have alot of fun reliving your experiences back at home. it would be a different matter if your girl was overw=eight, and simply not in the same league as the Thai girls.[/QUOTE]
This is my first serious post for some time. Those seniors among you will remember me from my Dubai forum days where I was a full time monger and regular contributor both in written and picture threads.
I have RTFF and quote Greglondon above as the series of reports give me some of the answers I am about to ask but not all. So before anyone starts flaming me for asking what might appear to be obvious questions please have a little respect for my history on this forum.
My situation is that I will be visiting Pattaya for the first time at xmas/New Year with Miss O my wife and resident TBR (Tall Blonde Russian). I will meet my good friend 50/50 there who has been giving me some useful advice on where to go and what to do ( I am discounting his views on ladyboys being able to serve two functions and satisfy both of us LOL as I am simply NOT interested in LBs) but I need a little more specific advice.
Miss O and I have been together for 7 years, we swing and she has been with me on numerous orgys and mongering 3somes in Dubai. (Wiked Rodger will testify to that!). She is bi but we have often been disappointed with so called bi swinger wives who actually prefer the idea of licking out a woman to the mechanics of doing it! As stated before she is a beautiful blonde, fit and in her very early 30’s with a open mind and fun attitude.
So my questions are specifically
Where is the best spot (if there is one) to pick up and bar fine girls prepared to do 3somes?
Has anyone got experience of the Rama Kien Hotel (recommended on SDC as a great swingers couples only hotel).
Can anyone recommend a good hotel on Koh Samet with internet access and more specifically will it be OK for new year? – looking at the web sites the place looks a little quiet for my tastes.
I would also be interested in picking up a Russian escort for some of the time – any suggestions as to where quality ones hang out – yes I am aware of cost (money isn’t really an issue) and attitude of some of the Russians but my Russian speaking babe can get over a lot of those issues!
Thanks in advance for your positive replies..
MK
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afternoon action
[QUOTE=Dominos Dick]Gentlemen
I know I should RTFF for this info and I am sure its there but would some senior Pattaya expert please advise where to go for a sure catch (to bring back to hotel) in the afternoons. I am aware of soi 6 but thats for on the spot relief I am looking for somewhere (other than beach road) where one can find a decent collection to pick from and head for the hotel for some afternoon action. Thanks in advance to whoever guides me.
DD[/QUOTE]
I have several comments:
1. yes, you should read TFF as you already know, and if you are not now in Pattaya, there is no rush to get this info.
2. If you are in Pattaya, I am surprised you don't already know how to accomplish what you are asking about.
3. And I am serious here: If your hotel is in Pattaya, just walk outside and look around. There should be a decent collection everywhere. I have never gone more than 2 minutes without coming across a "decent" lady in the game.
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[QUOTE=My Kapitan]This is my first serious post for some time. Those seniors among you will remember me from my Dubai forum days where I was a full time monger and regular contributor both in written and picture threads.
I have RTFF and quote Greglondon above as the series of reports give me some of the answers I am about to ask but not all. So before anyone starts flaming me for asking what might appear to be obvious questions please have a little respect for my history on this forum.
My situation is that I will be visiting Pattaya for the first time at xmas/New Year with Miss O my wife and resident TBR (Tall Blonde Russian). I will meet my good friend 50/50 there who has been giving me some useful advice on where to go and what to do ( I am discounting his views on ladyboys being able to serve two functions and satisfy both of us LOL as I am simply NOT interested in LBs) but I need a little more specific advice.
Miss O and I have been together for 7 years, we swing and she has been with me on numerous orgys and mongering 3somes in Dubai. (Wiked Rodger will testify to that!). She is bi but we have often been disappointed with so called bi swinger wives who actually prefer the idea of licking out a woman to the mechanics of doing it! As stated before she is a beautiful blonde, fit and in her very early 30’s with a open mind and fun attitude.
So my questions are specifically
Where is the best spot (if there is one) to pick up and bar fine girls prepared to do 3somes?
Has anyone got experience of the Rama Kien Hotel (recommended on SDC as a great swingers couples only hotel).
Can anyone recommend a good hotel on Koh Samet with internet access and more specifically will it be OK for new year? – looking at the web sites the place looks a little quiet for my tastes.
I would also be interested in picking up a Russian escort for some of the time – any suggestions as to where quality ones hang out – yes I am aware of cost (money isn’t really an issue) and attitude of some of the Russians but my Russian speaking babe can get over a lot of those issues!
Thanks in advance for your positive replies..
MK[/QUOTE]
I think maybe half the girls in Pattaya are prepared to do threesomes, however in most cases they are thinking of themselves and their friend both taking care of you with fairly minimal simulated lesbo action. The percentage who are genuinely into the bi stuff is much lower - maybe 5-10%, but with so many thousands of girls thats still alot of possibilities.
By and large the gogo girls are more "open minded " than the bar girls and the bar girls more open minded than the freelancers , though of course there are always exceptions to this rule. If money is not an issue, the best bet is probably to go to a few GoGos and ask the mamasan which girl is genuinely into girls. I would guess that just about every gogo will have one or two who are genuinely into it.
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Coconut bar
[QUOTE=Dominos Dick]Gentlemen
I know I should RTFF for this info and I am sure its there but would some senior Pattaya expert please advise where to go for a sure catch (to bring back to hotel) in the afternoons. I am aware of soi 6 but thats for on the spot relief I am looking for somewhere (other than beach road) where one can find a decent collection to pick from and head for the hotel for some afternoon action. Thanks in advance to whoever guides me.
DD[/QUOTE]
If you are prepared to excersise patience and put your percieved beliefs in SW`s aside you may just find what you are looking for. Think of the Beach road as the Coconut bar. There are many gems out there, night and day. Simply take their number and give them a call whenever required, as i do. I`m no expert on Pattaya, the girls in the clubs and bars are no cleaner than your average Beach road freelancer(my opinion)
Apart from this head to Walking st(night). Be prepared to pay more, many girls about circulating (hot-lapping), sit your ass on a barstool and watch the parade, from there you have a world of choice.
On making my way home to Soi 6 from Walking st, exhausted, i still think ahead and take numbers, each afternoon i simply get on the the blower, the girl is here at my hotel in minutes. It works, had some wonderful sessions, as i have just done. Thought i would not get it up after an exhausting day, but she was wonderful, i performed.
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Anyone stayed here?
Was wondering if anyone here has stayed at The Pinewood Residences on second road, some where opposite between soi4 and soi6 I think. And can give me some first hand info about the place. Eg-type of room they stayed in and general description and experience.
I'm thinking of planning my next trip to Pattaya and checking out some reasonable hotels online the photos of the rooms don't look too bad but photos on the internet can always be deceiving.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]I think maybe half the girls in Pattaya are prepared to do threesomes, however in most cases they are thinking of themselves and their friend both taking care of you with fairly minimal simulated lesbo action. The percentage who are genuinely into the bi stuff is much lower - maybe 5-10%, but with so many thousands of girls thats still alot of possibilities.
By and large the gogo girls are more "open minded " than the bar girls and the bar girls more open minded than the freelancers[/QUOTE]This must be true. I only deal with freelancers. And every time I try to get some menage a trois action going they tell me to choose one or the other. So there must be some kind of hierarchy where the more you pay, the bigger freak you get. (BR and Soi 6 being the exceptions to the rule.)
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[QUOTE=Showdown]The moral of the story is to not fall in love with any of these girls. You will wind up broken hearted, disgusted with yourself and a changed man.[/QUOTE] Or do like I do and fall in love with all of them. I get sob stories from the chicks all of the time about how I am playing with them and it hurts them to see me with someone else. That is not the least bit true. I never play with them. I let them know from day 1 that I am a butterfly. But I guess all of that goes in one ear and out the other. I treat all of them with the utmost respect. I understand that they have to get that money and I do not try to stand in their way. They have to realize that I will give them another chance to shine with me one day soon. But for now the stone must roll on. I am the same with non-pros. A leopard can not change its spots. There is no need in even trying to.[QUOTE=Showdown]If I ever patronize a prostitute again it will not be for a very very long time from now. For if I did I would see the face of the women I care for and I feel like I should not take advantage of these girls anymore. It’s a sad business and I no longer want to partake in it. [/QUOTE]Dude. The poison is the cure. You need a little of the hair of the dog that bit you. The best way to get over a woman is to get another woman. And what do you mean take advantage of the girls? You are actually now depriving someone of daily living expenses. The business only gets sad when the girls aren't making any money. I'm sure there is some nice girl in Pattaya who could make good use of your 1000 baht/day contribution.
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[QUOTE=Sammon]Western people compared to asian men have no qualms about marrying a girl irrespective of her past.[/QUOTE]When you say "marrying a girl irrespective of her past" you mean marrying girls who were hookers when they met them? Otherwise I don't know too many women that just happen to bring up they used to be hookers to a guy she met. Asian men won't marry them because they tend to think with the right head. Western men haphazardly do their shopping for serious relationships at locations of ill repute instead of using them for their intended purpose. The same way I would not go to a butcher shop looking for vegetarian food, I would not go to a hoehouse looking for a girlfriend or wife.
I was looking at the movie Brooklyn's Finest the other day. Richard Gere was a cop who had been patronizing a prostitute for years. When he retired she gave him a gold watch. Hell as much money as he had spent on her why not. He then asked her to move away with him. She told him in so many words that she is a hoe, not his lady. All these years they had been conducting steady business, not having a monogamous relationship. But he had the game so messed up that he had pulled the wool over his own eyes.
Along with never paying first, always getting a price upfront, and always making known what type of services you are requiring, another top rule of mongering should be to keep business as business. If you have ever paid a woman for sex then leave it at that. Don't try to change basis of the relationship that was started.
I do have a few friends who have married ex-hookers. The thing is that most of them (the ex-hookers) are not educated and do not or barely speak the language of the country where they were moving. If I am going to join up with someone in such an endeavor then I want more than just a pretty face to run up my bills and wear out my couch. I want someone who will be able to contribute accordingly to the household. All of this me working and you sitting on your ass because you stopped going to school at age 10 and have never known how to do anything else will not cut it. Maybe I should have been born Asian.
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Good Point Mr Enternational
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
I never play with them. I let them know from day 1 that I am a butterfly. .... I treat all of them with the utmost respect. [/QUOTE]
I completely agree. After meeting so many girls, sometimes I wonder how these girls can do it, I mean, to be with so many man and hear their stories, even if it is for money.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]I have several comments:
1. yes, you should read TFF as you already know, and if you are not now in Pattaya, there is no rush to get this info.
2. If you are in Pattaya, I am surprised you don't already know how to accomplish what you are asking about.
3. And I am serious here: If your hotel is in Pattaya, just walk outside and look around. There should be a decent collection everywhere. I have never gone more than 2 minutes without coming across a "decent" lady in the game.[/QUOTE]
What an asshole!! Give the guy some help or just dont bother responding and wasting everyones time. Oh well.
Try Tehitian Queen on beach road. Open from early afternoon. In fact the daytime girls are much nicer than evening in my opinion. Good atmosphere. The girls only dance in underwear or bikinis and not topless but there are usually a lot of nice girls there.
Johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Dominos Dick]Gentlemen
I know I should RTFF for this info and I am sure its there but would some senior Pattaya expert please advise where to go for a sure catch (to bring back to hotel) in the afternoons. I am aware of soi 6 but thats for on the spot relief I am looking for somewhere (other than beach road) where one can find a decent collection to pick from and head for the hotel for some afternoon action. Thanks in advance to whoever guides me.
DD[/QUOTE]
Soi 6 girls can be barfined too. They will be happy to go back to your hotel for afternoon delight either ST or LT.
JohnTheScot
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Hello,
I'll be in Pattaya in November, any recommendation for hairdressers with extras ?.
Thanks ...
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Showdown,
For whatever your reasons good or bad! Thank you for sharing your feelings and having the fortitude of putting yourself!
LBM
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]When you say "marrying a girl irrespective of her past" you mean marrying girls who were hookers when they met them? Otherwise I don't know too many women that just happen to bring up they used to be hookers to a guy she met. Asian men won't marry them because they tend to think with the right head. Western men haphazardly do their shopping for serious relationships at locations of ill repute instead of using them for their intended purpose. The same way I would not go to a butcher shop looking for vegetarian food, I would not go to a hoehouse looking for a girlfriend or wife.
I was looking at the movie Brooklyn's Finest the other day. Richard Gere was a cop who had been patronizing a prostitute for years. When he retired she gave him a gold watch. Hell as much money as he had spent on her why not. He then asked her to move away with him. She told him in so many words that she is a hoe, not his lady. All these years they had been conducting steady business, not having a monogamous relationship. But he had the game so messed up that he had pulled the wool over his own eyes.
Along with never paying first, always getting a price upfront, and always making known what type of services you are requiring, another top rule of mongering should be to keep business as business. If you have ever paid a woman for sex then leave it at that. Don't try to change basis of the relationship that was started.
I do have a few friends who have married ex-hookers. The thing is that most of them (the ex-hookers) are not educated and do not or barely speak the language of the country where they were moving. If I am going to join up with someone in such an endeavor then I want more than just a pretty face to run up my bills and wear out my couch. I want someone who will be able to contribute accordingly to the household. All of this me working and you sitting on your ass because you stopped going to school at age 10 and have never known how to do anything else will not cut it. Maybe I should have been born Asian.[/QUOTE]
Which girl in her right mind will say she is a hooker unless guy met her for hooking business?
Even a seasoned hooked will come across as a day old virgin if given the chance.
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Pattaya Musings
Spent 10 days in Pattaya with my nephew, son, and two friends, playing the tour guide.
Pattaya is simply unfathomable, the changes that take place over a few months, indeed, weeks, are amazing. For my own purposes, I have broken it down into Glitz (hyped up go-go's discos), middle of the road general fun places (e.g., Soi Metro, Soi 6, Beer Bars, etc.), and of course the discount section i.e., Coconut Bar (Beach Road).
Visited Champaign on Soi Metro to see if my "Uma Thurman" was there (gal looks just like her), and she was. What a transformation. Last time I saw her she had been working there about 2 months, shy, tentative, and somewhat sweet. Now, she was up on stage shoving her derriere into the face anyone sitting at the bar. Evolution, or devolution, take your choice.
On this swing, I probably had the most fun on Soi 6. Met a voluptuous, and I mean voluptuous, gal in the third bar on the right as you are walking toward beach road. Her name was Nit. I spotted her sitting on one of the high back chairs in front of the bar. It was early in the evening and, as a result, I usually avoid entanglements this early. However, when she stood up and I saw her figure, along with her gigantic rack, I immediately took her inside for a drink. I, very purposely, tried looking for flaws that would give me an excuse to bail, found none. Wound up doing the unthinkable (for me) and barfined her around 8pm.
From there we went to Tim's Bar on 2nd. I particularly like this place because of the music videos. Spent about three hours with her in there and both of us got hammered. I was careful not to over indulge with her, leaving just when I thought the alcohol would do me the most good with her. This gal was great, funny, easy going, and a body that just wouldn’t quite.
Back in the room she took her clothes off and I was floored, called it right, this gal was something. I remember in the morning I attempted something I have never done before, take a picture of her as she was sleeping. She lay there with her arm straight down her side so as to give me a great picture of her entire figure. Since I am married, logic kicked in and I put the camera down. Funny thing, got her phone number, and gave her mine and, despite numerous calls/texts from her, we never connected again.
I am with Browning when it comes to mongering: "A mans reach should exceed his grasp, or what are the heavens for." Actually got a few such numbers, but never called.
Well, had a few encounters of this type and to go one would only be repeating myself.
Another good place, in my estimation, was Baby Dolls. Gals were friendly and I like there policy of reducing the bar fine to 300bht after 1:30am.
Off to Santa Domingo.
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Super Baby Surprize
Super Baby a-go-go, on Soi Diamond, features some seriously cute young girls. I doubt if any of them is over the age of 24 and there are no unattractive ones. I like the reasonable after happy hour drink prices there. Premium whisky is only 120 baht.
Last night I couldn’t resist the temptation to barfine for ST a lovely 20 year old sweetheart with a hard belly, perfect perky tits, and GFE attitude. While my lady went off the get dressed, the mamasan informed me that, in addition to my drinks, I had to pay the house 2450 baht up front for the privilege – 600 barfine; 1500 for the girl; and 350 for a short time room. I’ve never had to do that before anywhere in Pattaya.
As we left the bar, one of the Super Baby street touts led us all the way to Walking St., and then left another 100 meters or so to a short time hotel above Sweethearts a-go-go; I tipped him 20 baht. (Big spender that I am) The room was clean, nice and well furnished, and I enjoyed the girl very much, but I probably won’t be bar fining again at Super Baby.
If other bars start adopting this policy, I’ll have to go back to freelancers exclusively, and that would be a shame.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]As we left the bar, one of the Super Baby street touts led us all the way to Walking St., and then left another 100 meters or so to a short time hotel above Sweethearts a-go-go; I tipped him 20 baht. (Big spender that I am) The room was clean, nice and well furnished[/QUOTE]Any idea of the walk-up price of this ST hotel?
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Any idea of the walk-up price of this ST hotel?[/QUOTE]
Yep ... 350 baht.
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One or two?
I read somewhere that two shots are allowable at a soapy one in the tub during bbbj and one on the bed. Is this true? If so why did I struggle to hold back.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Yep ... 350 baht.[/QUOTE]Guess I will stick to the 100 baht shithole on 13/1 then or take them to the woods across from the mini race cars for free. Mai pen rai. They know me there now!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Guess I will stick to the 100 baht shithole on 13/1 then or take them to the woods across from the mini race cars for free. Mai pen rai. They know me there now![/QUOTE]
Hahahahah ... that place on 13/1 (PS Guest House) is a shithole for sure...
I'd much rather pay a few dollars more for not having to worry about cooties and crusty cum stains while focusing on the girl ...
As for the woods across from the go-carts, that might be worthwhile as I'm told the fine is only 500 baht and your name and photo in the news if the cops happen to see you ...
BTW -- SA Apartments, just down the Soi from the shithole, offers nice clean rooms for 300 baht last time I checked.
I wish some ambitious poster like Popper perhaps would compile a comprehensive list of Pattaya short time hotels as that would be information you and I could definately use.
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[QUOTE=Levitraboner]I read somewhere that two shots are allowable at a soapy one in the tub during bbbj and one on the bed. Is this true? If so why did I struggle to hold back.[/QUOTE]
It depends. I've had 2 shots without asking at some Petchaburi Rd soapies. At Catherine it's actually standard.
In the end it's up to you. Be in control and act like it's the most natural thing in the world. Or tell the girl you'd like to come twice beforehand. Or tell the papasan that's what you expect, and he'll tell the girl. All or none may work.
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Conversation with a Ladyboy
I was in one of the Beer Bars on Soi 8 around 10 PM. I ordered a drink and slowly started sipping it and monitoring the girls who are trying to draw my attention. Man the business is really bad. Almost no customer and so many bars! All of a sudden I heard a voice “Hi, I am Lisa” and an extended hand for a shake. I immediately recognized her as a Ladyboy. Apparently she is the mamasan of several surrounding bars. In the past I purposely avoided any contact with Ladyboys. Although I always had a keen desire to learn their life stories. I had nothing to do until 1 AM at which time my friend and I are supposed to go to Hollywood Discotheque. This was an ideal time to get involved in some idle chatter with a Ladyboy, who speaks very good English.
I asked Lisa that I know she is a Ladyboy, but whether I could asked her some questions. She was totally game and quite frank. I also made it clear that I am a straight person and I have no interest in Ladyboys for sexual encounters. Lisa totally understood my point.
I must tell you that the next hour of my time there was an uplifting experience. I learned a lot about her and Ladyboys in general. I was glad that I got rid of my inhibition about Ladyboys and engaged one of them in a delightful conversation to learn firsthand about their lives.
Lisa was the first child of her family. When she was very young, her mother made her take care of her baby sister and brother. Her maternal instincts blossomed. While growing up she constantly felt attracted to boys only. She ultimately joined the bar business, and at age 26 she fell in love with a German guy who promised to “marry” her. Then one day he showed up with his Thai girlfriend. More heartbreak followed. She is now 38 and stopped believing in fairytales.
I had some specific questions, like whether she has the penis and could come like us. She answered “yes” to both. But also added that she could never have a normal sex with a woman. In fact she never had sex with a girl. She can only come with a man. I confessed that IMHO prettiest of the Thai women are Ladyboys and even the Thai girls admit to that. What is the genesis of this. She could not find a definitive answer except to say that they take care of their bodies better than the ladies and also don’t have to undergo the childbirth procedures which make many ladies lose their figure. My other practical question was about how some Ladyboys could deceive somebody into believing they are the real women and only to discover the surprise at the hotel room. I bragged that it will not happen to me since I am pretty good at spotting them. Lisa called one of the girls and asked me whether I think she is a Ladyboy. I said that she looked like a normal girl. I was completely wrong. However, I still did not accept the complete defeat saying that I did not talk to her yet. Lisa then said that she is aware that some of the Ladyboys try to deceive customers, but they have an unwritten policy to tell the customer upfront that she is a Ladyboy. Lisa then surprised me by saying that she has published a CD detailing the lives of Ladyboys in Pattaya and it is a great seller. I did not enquire much about the CD worrying that she may make me buy one. To her credit she never offered anything like that. I asked her about the general change in Pattaya which I visited about 8 years ago. Mostly I wanted to know about the Russian influx in Pattaya and the sex clubs like Moulin Rouge. She told me to stay away from these. She once went with a customer and drinks there start at 280 Baht. Some of the girls do go out, however, Bar Fine is 1500 Baht and the girls charge upward of 5000 Baht.
We chit chatted a bit more and I gave her 100 Baht for her time. She was very surprised and refused to take it. But I insisted saying that I appreciated her great candor and she literally made my evening very memorable.
Bandy
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A Good Taylor
I know tailors in Pattaya are dime a dozen, but can any one recommend a good one from experience.
And, do I need an electrical converter for my electronics? (coming from USA)
Sorry about the trivial questions, but I've read contradicting reports. Looking for a converter is not the first or second thing that I want to do when I get there:-)
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[QUOTE=Jendabaze]I know tailors in Pattaya are dime a dozen, but can any one recommend a good one from experience.
And, do I need an electrical converter for my electronics? (coming from USA)
Sorry about the trivial questions, but I've read contradicting reports. Looking for a converter is not the first or second thing that I want to do when I get there:-)[/QUOTE]
Pick up a cheap converter at Walmart before you go ... it's all 220V here ...
...as for a 'good' tailor ... you are at your peril ...
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[QUOTE=Jendabaze]I know tailors in Pattaya are dime a dozen, but can any one recommend a good one from experience.
And, do I need an electrical converter for my electronics? (coming from USA)
Sorry about the trivial questions, but I've read contradicting reports. Looking for a converter is not the first or second thing that I want to do when I get there:-)[/QUOTE]
Electronics? What are you packing? the kitchen sink from the U.S. or where?
most of your major Electronics like computer, phones, chargers range up to 225, read before buying?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Hahahahah ... that place on 13/1 (PS Guest House) is a shithole for sure...
I'd much rather pay a few dollars more for not having to worry about cooties and crusty cum stains while focusing on the girl ...
As for the woods across from the go-carts, that might be worthwhile as I'm told the fine is only 500 baht and your name and photo in the news if the cops happen to see you ...
BTW -- SA Apartments, just down the Soi from the shithole, offers nice clean rooms for 300 baht last time I checked.
I wish some ambitious poster like Popper perhaps would compile a comprehensive list of Pattaya short time hotels as that would be information you and I could definately use.[/QUOTE]
Personally, after reading, seeing the photos being posted and driving by the woods I would rather go to the shit hole on 13/1! The wood is loaded with use condoms etc... mosquitoes everywhere to bit your dick and ass as soon as you pull down your pants. One slip going up the path to the shack and you might be rolling in shit! Also I have on two ocassions run into a snake now when in the bushes taking a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]! This snake is green and looks like a long green branch of grass that is nearly impossible to spot! A Thai told me it is very dangerous? At least at the shithole for 100 baht they have water... if desperate I could bring my own towel, slippers and medication after for my feet? Heh Heh
LBM
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Trip report
The wait is over... finally hit Pattaya!!
Day 1
Landed at BKK at 20.00. Had a pre-arranged cab waiting at Gate 4.
Driver spoke very little English, so on with the iPod and settle down for the 2hr drive.
Got to my guesthouse about 10.30. Had a quick beer and up to the room for the triple S.
By now it was midnight and I was jetlagged upto the eyeballs, so decided to leave the mongering until tomorrow...or so i thought.
A little cute waitress sat beside me and began asking about my flight. I know it's a bad idea to BF from ones own doorstep. especially as this is only the first of 9 nights, and I've paid up front for the room, so no swapping if things turn sour.
Bought the cutie a drink and then another, and finally decided to BF. She said she needed to go to her room to change, I asked her where she lives, turns out she stays upstairs, in the same guesthouse.
She knocks on my room about 20mins later, dressed in a traditional thai outfit. She a made a bloody good effort in 20 mins.
As she is giving me BBBJ it suddenly dawns on me I have no condoms, shit! I ask if she has any, she does not, shit!
She offers to get dressed and go to the 7/11, but by now i just want to cum and sleep, so she continues with a cracking deepthroat BBBJ (of course it's BB). Eventually CIM and tuck in for the night, She wraps herself around me which eventually became quite uncomfortable, so I pushed her off, threw off the sheets and happily went to sleep.
I got up about 6am and went to the bathroom. The bathroom had a very musty, familiar smell (no not that!). She'd had a joint whilst I was asleep.
I'm not sure about the guesthouse policy towards drugs, but having read so many horror stories about westerners getting screwed in Thailand due to drugs, I was slightly paranoid.
i went back to sleep and confronted her in the morning. I told her I would not be barfining her again as this was completely disrespectful. She agreed, apologised and requested I not tell her boss or the other girls. Of course I agreed to this request. Slipped 1000bt into her bag and bid her farewell.
Day 2
Got up about 2pm feeling like shit. I just lay in bed watching crappy TV for a cuople of hours and eventually mustered up the energy to get ready.
Took a walk down to LK Metro and into the Rockhouse. Had a couple of beers and played some quality tunes, they have a very decent library.
Had a very bubbly girl (Viktoria) bouncing about all over me. Bought her a couple of drinks. She requested I BF her, but she seemed a bit pished so decided against it, but may go back another day for her. Met the owner Alex, nice bloke.
Left Rockhouse and continued my journey on Metro. Ended up in the Liquid Lounge. I knew the owner and a few bargirls from my previous visit. Unfortunately my favourite girl had left for pastures new. They were holding a pool match with a local bar, which was fun to watch. After the game the owner invited me to join a game of killer at 100bt a man. I ended up staying for a few hours. Bought a cuite a couple of drinks, but she seemed very shy. She loved to talk, but no touchy feely. My starfish radar went into overdrive.
So left the bar slightly pissed and walked back to my guesthouse. Being slight worse for wear i stumbled straight passed and went a few bars up, looking around for my room like an idiot.
A kind angel came out of some obscure bar and asked if she could help. Long story short she extracted 1000bt and a healthy dose of bodily fluid from my person.
In the morning I saw her for the first time without the beer goggles. She was certailnly not my type. Maybe late 30's and the puppy fat of a small St.Bernard!. I never thought i would shag a bird older than me!
She was however a very nice lady and I thanked her for her services as she left at 6am. I now realised I hadn't eaten all day, so got dressed and went out to the local 24hr Subway. Cutie behind the counter! Having just woken up and smelling like a tramp, i decided not make a play.However she is on the to-do list, although i'm not if she is available.
Day 3
Went back to the Rockhouse at 6pm for a couple of opening beers. Ended up stumbling out of the Rockhouse at 04.30am!!
I recall there were a couple of birthday parties going on, and I just got carried away with the celebrations. Having paid my 2000bt bar bill, i left the bar and made the short trip back to my guesthouse, with Viktoria in tow. She was as pissed as me (my fault) but was still a superstar in bed.With all the booze still flowing through my veins, she knew she would to work hard to get me to pop....and work hard she did!
Don't know what time we went to sleep, but we woke up at 5.15pm. I asked her what time she begins work, to which she replied 5.
I thought about paying her barfine for the day, and just staying in the room, but decided against it.
Viktoria having left, i went back to sleep.
Day 4
Woke up about 10pm and got washed/dressed to go downstairs to the restaurant for a long awaited meal. Now fully fed and fully awake I paid the bill, only to discover I had 2000bt to my name. I went for stroll along Bukaow and second road looking for a money exchange. I found plenty of them, all closed.
Now nursing a hangover and with no local currency, i returned to my room and conceded defeat.
I also still cannot find a barber. Many beauty salons, bit no barber. Can i get a standard No1 trim at a beaty salon??
Day 5 - 9 coming soon
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So I'm on my frist trip to Asia, and from reports I chose Pattaya. I've only been here for 2 days, and this place is amazing! I've been to brazi, Dominican Republic, etc. And they don't compare. This forum has helped me quite a bit for this trip. So I knew what to expect, but I didn't realize how sweet this place is until I got here.
This is day 2. 5 out of 16 and I'm love'n it!
A few observations:
-Bring your own condoms. My luggage got lost (which they payed me 2500b for), and I had to buy from 7/11 and the very first girl I busted right threw the condom. 20yr old thight hot Girl freaked out. I had to then hear about her kid, and a bunch of other shit. She wanted me to go to the hospital to get checked, but I wasn't spending my first full day in Pattaya in a hospital, in the same cloths I traveled in. I get checked all the time anyway, and I know I'm clean. 500b and she finally left.
-Ladyboys are the most agressive things here. Even more so than the tailors. Why do they not understand "No Thank You"? Grab you everywhere. I have to put on Barry Sanders moves (fake like I'm going left, then go right, and add a spin move) just to get away.
Well just woke up from a few hours rest, almost midnight here, about to head out again. I'm staying up at Soi6, and all seems to close at 1am. Can anyone suggest a good place that's open much longer? Everyone says walkingstreet, but I'm staying down there next week, so I figure I'll leave that part of town for next week.
Also, so far every girl I've had is ST from Soi6, within walking distance. If I meet a girl further away, what is the best way to bring her back? Taxi, beer bus, etc?
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Barber
[QUOTE=Chachi420]The wait is over... finally hit Pattaya!!
I also still cannot find a barber. Many beauty salons, bit no barber. Can i get a standard No1 trim at a beaty salon??
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There's a Barber Shop on the South side of Pattaya South Road just a few steps off 2nd road. I've never tried it, but passed it every day on my way to the internet cafe next door.
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[QUOTE=Chachi420]I also still cannot find a barber. Many beauty salons, bit no barber. Can i get a standard No1 trim at a beaty salon??[/QUOTE]Now that you mention it there is a shortage of barber shops around that area. My friends and I have always gone to the beauty salons to get a hair cut, shave, wash, or nails. It's really fun to be around those chicks plus I like to hit on them so it all works out. It doesn't take but a minute for them to be calling me sweet mouth in those types of venues.
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[QUOTE=Jendabaze]I know tailors in Pattaya are dime a dozen, but can any one recommend a good one from experience.
Sorry about the trivial questions, but I've read contradicting reports. Looking for a converter is not the first or second thing that I want to do when I get there:-)[/QUOTE]I think that the quality of the tailor varies with whether they think they can rip you off or not rather than on a store by store basis. I always go for a store that is a bit away from the beach and that I pick out, not that some tout talks me into going into.
It is not the Indian guy (saying Indian since 99% of them are Indian) in the store with all the material that makes the suit, he gives the material to a Thai tailor that takes it home and makes the suit there.
They should at a minimum do three fittings of the suit for you, better if they do more.
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[QUOTE=Chachi420]...I also still cannot find a barber [on Soi Buakhow]...[/QUOTE]
There are two barber shops on the North section of Soi Buakhow near Pattaya Klang. One is located directly across from the Bank of Ayutthaya branch (the bank with the all yellow facade), and charges 60 baht for a standard haircut. The other one is on the same side of the Soi a few hundred meters closer to Pattaya Klang that charges 70 baht for a haircut or shave. I've been satisfied with both.
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"I've been satisfied with both" can't help myself Daddy07, " beauty is in the eyes of the beholder "
Heh Heh, LBM
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[QUOTE=Dirt Diver22]Well just woke up from a few hours rest, almost midnight here, about to head out again. I'm staying up at Soi6, and all seems to close at 1am. Can anyone suggest a good place that's open much longer? Everyone says walkingstreet, but I'm staying down there next week, so I figure I'll leave that part of town for next week.
Also, so far every girl I've had is ST from Soi6, within walking distance. If I meet a girl further away, what is the best way to bring her back? Taxi, beer bus, etc?[/QUOTE]Soi 7 and Soi 8 have bars that close 2-3am or later.
For bringing a girl back you can take the baht bus (10 baht each, blue pickup truck) or if you want to go quickly a motorbike taxi (40+ baht, unsure of price).
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Suits
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]I think that the quality of the tailor varies with whether they think they can rip you off or not rather than on a store by store basis. I always go for a store that is a bit away from the beach and that I pick out, not that some tout talks me into going into.
It is not the Indian guy (saying Indian since 99% of them are Indian) in the store with all the material that makes the suit, he gives the material to a Thai tailor that takes it home and makes the suit there.
They should at a minimum do three fittings of the suit for you, better if they do more.[/QUOTE]I was told same sweatshop makes all suits.
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[QUOTE=Jendabaze]I know tailors in Pattaya are dime a dozen, but can any one recommend a good one from experience.[/QUOTE]
If you have a bit of time in SE Asia, and don't mind a week mainly not mongering, do a quick side trip to Hoi An in Vietnam.
The 2 suits I got 'tailored' in Thailand many years ago for over $100 Aus (admittedly, it was Bangkok not Pattaya), and all inexpensive suits (less than $250 Aus) I have seen from Thailand were not well tailored, had tacky buttons etc. On the other hand the two I got tailored for $50 each in Hoi An still look sharp, and are in good condition (ok, the pocket lining has busted in one - but externally looks good still). I got this price because a few of us ordered suits (8 all up), shirts (for $10, 9 all up), coats (for $30 - $50, 3 made), some ties etc, then did a fair bit of bargaining.
It is fairly inexpensive to get to from BKK - around $40 - $50 from Air Asia, BKK to HCMC, around $20 - $30 Jetstar from HCMC to Danang, $15 taxi Danang to Hoi An. Although there is no p4p in Hoi An, Danang is (apparently) one of the places in Vietnam it is fairly easy to find. More importantly, the culture, food... and young tourist party crowd, are spectacular.
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PUNG at Rollingstone Bar, Soi 8
I was in Rolling Stone Bar on Soi 8. One pretty girl caught my eye and she grabbed me. I took a drink and asked her whether she wants to go with me. She was quite attractive and had a good attitude. Her name was PUNG. I settled for 1000 Baht short time. Then came the shock. She said Bar Fine is 500 Baht. I got upset and told her that Bar Fine should be 300 Baht and told her to go away. She called the mamasan who explained me that the bar Fine is 300 Baht plus two lady drinks. If you have time, you can enjoy your time at the Bar drinking with the Lady. Otherwise, pay for the drinks and take her out. Mamasan said that PUNG is one of the outstanding girls and I will be very happy with her. I was satisfied with her explanation and left with PUNG.
In the hotel room, I was very glad that I took out PUNG. She really delivered outstanding service. Most importantly she behaved like a true girlfriend. She is 21 years old and never had children. Her body was perfect. Except anal ( I tried a bit, but it was hurting her), everything was on the menu. Two hours of pure Ecstasy!!!
I had such a great time that I went to get her next night. She came running and gave me a big hug! Then whispered the bad news- She started her period that morning. Bummer!!!!
I have included two pictures of her. Enjoy!!!
Bandy
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Red Alert!
[QUOTE=Bandy]I had such a great time that I went to get her next night. She came running and gave me a big hug! Then whispered the bad news- She started her period that morning. Bummer!!!![/QUOTE]Bummer how? If pigs can fuck through mud you should be able to fuck through blood. Of course I lead by example. A pic from Angeles City in September....
P.S. The hotel made me pay an extra US$5 for fucking up the sheets. (Later it was much worse than the photo.) But it was my pleasure.
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[QUOTE=The Scout]Soi 7 and Soi 8 have bars that close 2-3am or later.[/QUOTE]In 7 or 8 (forget which) there's also a friendly little gogo that stays open until 4am (near the 2nd Rd side).
[QUOTE=The Scout]or if you want to go quickly a motorbike taxi (40+ baht, unsure of price).[/QUOTE]Short hops should be less, it's 60 all the way from X-Zyte disco to the bus Roong Ruang bus station.
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Is this heaven
I was wondering if Pattaya is so good how good will be heaven! Hahaha it was three nice and bzi days all the time walking on the famous street had some gal I mean three! Two were amazingly nice if you are there find someone from the Combodian border thais! They make shit out of it! Hahha
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Condos
Can anyone advise on whether the condo rental market is hot or cold. I need a place for 2 months, Dec/Jan, and wonder if I am taking too much of a chance not booking in advance. Stayed at White Inn on 2nd same time last year but by the end of the 2nd month was way too loud. Great place for a couple of weeks though. No hassle bringing in 2 girls at a time. Short walk to FL'ers on BR and beer bars on WS. The cuties at the later too interested in LT meaning Lifetime than getting bar-fined for just boom boom but had great fun joking around with them. Would like to find high floor in Jomtien in the 15,000 - 35,000B range.
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Hollywood discotheque Encounter
My friend was with a girl who strongly recommended checking out Hollywood discotheque in North Pattaya for quality freelancers. She mentioned mostly non-pro or semi-pro frequent there. Ordinary bar girls congregate on other discos in South Pattaya. We were very excited with the prospect of experiencing something special and made a trial run in day time to find the place.
[i]Direction to Hollywood discotheque: Take the Baht bus to BIG C. Walk (opposite direction of Beach Road) on the road adjacent to Sabai Room Massage place. At the end of the road make a right turn and walk for additional 5 – 7 minutes. The Hollywood discotheque will be on your left.[/i]
We entered Hollywood discotheque around 1:30 in the morning. Entrance fee 300 Baht which includes 2 drinks. The place is quite big and the band was very good. However, the sound was quite loud for my taste. We took the drink and checked out the place. There were lots of possibilities. I was enjoying the show and doing some chit chat with the girls at the next table. I felt the quality of the available girls were high.
One strange phenomenon took place around 3 AM- the place started emptying out quite rapidly. And this was a Thursday night!. By that time my friend already secured a girl. I still could not find anybody desirable and I thought of going home empty handed. I went for a last minute hunting of the arena. Within minutes, I discovered a pretty pair of eyes looking curiously at me. She was sitting with other friends and you could easily tell that they all came together to enjoy a night out. I was not sure that she will even care to go out. Anyway, I had nothing to lose and asked her to come outside so that I can talk to her. She was hesitant but ultimately came out. She was one pretty girl! She was saying that she is very scared and do this thing very rarely. I told her that I am a perfect gentleman and she had nothing to worry. She said she had to leave by 6 AM, since she lives with her mother. At this point, I was totally horny for her, and being pressed for time as well as this being the penultimate night of this trip, I lost all negotiation power. She asked for 3000 Baht and quickly agreed for 2500 Baht (Highest I paid for a girl in this trip). Her beauty and personality certainly had something to do with it.
My friend’s date was hungry and four of us went for a quick bite in the restaurant adjacent to Hollywood discotheque. The return trip to Flipper House was very expensive. Since around 4 AM, there was no conventional transportation available, we had to take a Baht bus which charged us 150 Baht to come to Soi 7!
I had no regret in taking her once I discovered her body in the hotel room. One of the nicest pair of natural breasts I ever encountered. And she has two children! She is 25 yr. old and going through separation. She was so horny that I felt she did not have any action for a long time. A true girlfriend experience!. She told in the club that she can do only CBJ. But she was so much into the action that she never hesitated a bit and went for BBBJ. I had simply absolutely unforgettable time for almost two hours. We took a shower and tried to sleep a little bit holding each other. But she kept getting phone calls from her mother. I could feel she wanted to stay more, but had to leave around 6:30 AM. One of the most romantic encounters I ever had.
I have included a picture of her. Enjoy!!!
Bandy
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Catherine?
[QUOTE=Rocksoff]It depends. I've had 2 shots without asking at some Petchaburi Rd soapies. At Catherine it's actually standard.
In the end it's up to you. Be in control and act like it's the most natural thing in the world. Or tell the girl you'd like to come twice beforehand. Or tell the papasan that's what you expect, and he'll tell the girl. All or none may work.[/QUOTE]So where are these sopies located? Are any of these the ones located near the Big C?
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Petchaburi Rd
[QUOTE=Rocksoff]It depends. I've had 2 shots without asking at some Petchaburi Rd soapies. At Catherine it's actually standard.
In the end it's up to you. Be in control and act like it's the most natural thing in the world. Or tell the girl you'd like to come twice beforehand. Or tell the papasan that's what you expect, and he'll tell the girl. All or none may work.[/QUOTE]I've been seeking this road on a map but can't find it. Anyone know where to look?
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Catherine's and Petchburi Road
Both are located in Bangkok, not Pattaya.
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Thanks buddy for the Info!
[QUOTE=Bandy]My friend was with a girl who strongly recommended checking out Hollywood discotheque in North Pattaya for quality freelancers. She mentioned mostly non-pro or semi-pro frequent there. Ordinary bar girls congregate on other discos in South Pattaya. We were very excited with the prospect of experiencing something special and made a trial run in day time to find the place.
[i]Direction to Hollywood discotheque: Take the Baht bus to BIG C. Walk (opposite direction of Beach Road) on the road adjacent to Sabai Room Massage place. At the end of the road make a right turn and walk for additional 5 – 7 minutes. The Hollywood discotheque will be on your left.[/i]
We entered Hollywood discotheque around 1:30 in the morning. Entrance fee 300 Baht which includes 2 drinks. The place is quite big and the band was very good. However, the sound was quite loud for my taste. We took the drink and checked out the place. There were lots of possibilities. I was enjoying the show and doing some chit chat with the girls at the next table. I felt the quality of the available girls were high.
One strange phenomenon took place around 3 AM- the place started emptying out quite rapidly. And this was a Thursday night!. By that time my friend already secured a girl. I still could not find anybody desirable and I thought of going home empty handed. I went for a last minute hunting of the arena. Within minutes, I discovered a pretty pair of eyes looking curiously at me. She was sitting with other friends and you could easily tell that they all came together to enjoy a night out. I was not sure that she will even care to go out. Anyway, I had nothing to lose and asked her to come outside so that I can talk to her. She was hesitant but ultimately came out. She was one pretty girl! She was saying that she is very scared and do this thing very rarely. I told her that I am a perfect gentleman and she had nothing to worry. She said she had to leave by 6 AM, since she lives with her mother. At this point, I was totally horny for her, and being pressed for time as well as this being the penultimate night of this trip, I lost all negotiation power. She asked for 3000 Baht and quickly agreed for 2500 Baht (Highest I paid for a girl in this trip). Her beauty and personality certainly had something to do with it.
My friend’s date was hungry and four of us went for a quick bite in the restaurant adjacent to Hollywood discotheque. The return trip to Flipper House was very expensive. Since around 4 AM, there was no conventional transportation available, we had to take a Baht bus which charged us 150 Baht to come to Soi 7!
I had no regret in taking her once I discovered her body in the hotel room. One of the nicest pair of natural breasts I ever encountered. And she has two children! She is 25 yr. old and going through separation. She was so horny that I felt she did not have any action for a long time. A true girlfriend experience!. She told in the club that she can do only CBJ. But she was so much into the action that she never hesitated a bit and went for BBBJ. I had simply absolutely unforgettable time for almost two hours. We took a shower and tried to sleep a little bit holding each other. But she kept getting phone calls from her mother. I could feel she wanted to stay more, but had to leave around 6:30 AM. One of the most romantic encounters I ever had.
I have included a picture of her. Enjoy!!!
Bandy[/QUOTE]Great work Buddy! Always welcome some new piece of information!
Great Going!
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Good Report, But....
[QUOTE=Bandy]
.... At this point, I was totally horny for her, and being pressed for time as well as this being the penultimate night of this trip, I lost all negotiation power. She asked for 3000 Baht and quickly agreed for 2500 Baht (Highest I paid for a girl in this trip). Her beauty and personality certainly had something to do with it.
I have included a picture of her. Enjoy!!!
Bandy[/QUOTE]
Nice report Bandy.
With all due respect though, why would you spend 2500 for something which is basically a ST type arrangement?
Although, you may have lost your thinking power at that time, you being someone who have read this forum, should have known better. Afterall, you yourself say, she have had two kids. I am sure you could have someone younger and as much beautifull, for less of a price if you planned it properly.
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Please give this cheap shit a break...
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]Nice report Bandy.
With all due respect though, why would you spend 2500 for something which is basically a ST type arrangement?
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WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THOUGH, why do you fuckin care!?! He already said it was his last fuckin nite and she was the best fuckin thing he'd seen….AND IT WAS HIS FUCKIN MONEY! Jesus Fuckin Christ!
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[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]Nice report Bandy.
With all due respect though, why would you spend 2500 for something which is basically a ST type arrangement?
Although, you may have lost your thinking power at that time, you being someone who have read this forum, should have known better. Afterall, you yourself say, she have had two kids. I am sure you could have someone younger and as much beautifull, for less of a price if you planned it properly.[/QUOTE]
Yes I could have done all these as you described. But I went for her isn't it? Choices make us different as individual.
Looks like you really don't read a report diligently; otherwise you could not have made such a careless comment. My report clearly says that "I was pressed for time" (since my friend already picked up his girl). Now tell me, how do you expect me to plan it properly?
I am mongering for many years in many countries. So just a friendly advice- unless you want to increase your number of reports on the ISG board, don't offer unsolicited criticism of other people's choice or how much they pay for an encounter. Just refute if there is any factual misinformation on a report.
I am not there when a monger meets a girl, how their mutual feelings are and what transpired during the negotiations. Who am I to criticize him as long as he is paying for the encounter from his own pocket?
And don't tell me that one is ruining the market for other mongers paying a high end price. This is a total BS. The price of a particular encounter is based on two people's mutual need on that particular moment. (This trip, I got a girl from a bar for 800 Baht long time. It was raining heavily during closing time and I was the only option she had). This is completely a fluid situation, especially with freelancers. The most probable thing will happen that you may not get that particular girl at a lower price in future.
Bandy
P.S.: If you think that I am an ignorant monger who just throw away money after these working girls then you may want to read my report in the Bangkok Section (This is what constitutes as planned mongering).
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1085184&postcount=11722[/url]
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Chimin' in...
[QUOTE=Ny Desiman]Nice report Bandy...With all due respect though, why would you spend 2500 for something which is basically a ST type arrangement?
...Although, you may have lost your thinking power at that time, you being someone who have read this forum, should have known better. Afterall, you yourself say, she have had two kids. I am sure you could have someone younger and as much beautifull, for less of a price if you planned it properly.[/QUOTE]Just a general comment here to Mr. Desiman's rather clinical response to Bandy's report...
Ever wonder why some working Thai women often treat visitors bad, like they are pieces of old meat with wallets?
Ever wonder why many working Thai women jump up and head for the shower with seconds of you [i]finishing?[/i]
Ever wonder why you are single and can only get laid if you are paying by the minute?
It's attitude, my ISG mates, [i]attitude,[/i] simple as that!
And if you have never tried it, as with most things in life, a little generosity -- toward a woman who makes her living, (often to feed her family), on her knees and back with a prick inserted in her -- goes a long way....
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212]WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THOUGH, why do you fuckin care!?! He already said it was his last fuckin nite and she was the best fuckin thing he'd seen….AND IT WAS HIS FUCKIN MONEY! Jesus Fuckin Christ![/QUOTE]
Jeez, another FUCKING rude asshole on the site. Who'd have thought it. :-)
JohnTheScot
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[QUOTE=Bandy]My friend was with a girl who strongly recommended checking out Hollywood discotheque in North Pattaya for quality freelancers. She mentioned mostly non-pro or semi-pro frequent there.
The return trip to Flipper House was very expensive. Since around 4 AM, there was no conventional transportation available, we had to take a Baht bus which charged us 150 Baht to come to Soi 7!
Bandy[/QUOTE]
Bandy,
Like your reports. Totally agree about Hollywood, good venue. I have been there a few times and I've always been impressed by the semi pro P4P girls I've met there. usually part timers who are a little bit shy but usually lovely and less jaded and professional than other girls from other venues. I've only ever gone there with 2, 3 or 4 friends that I've barfined from my usual bars to have a part, girls that I've known for a long time. They always ask which girls I like and then, even though I tell them not to, they go and speak to them and put a good word in for me. That is such a great clincher with the nice stunners :-)
Oh and I cant believe you complain about 150B taxi back to hotel!! Are you Scottish like me?? :-)
Johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Bandy]
I am not there when a monger meets a girl, how their mutual feelings are and what transpired during the negotiations. Who am I to criticize him as long as he is paying for the encounter from his own pocket?
And don't tell me that one is ruining the market for other mongers paying a high end price. This is a total BS. The price of a particular encounter is based on two people's mutual need on that particular moment. (This trip, I got a girl from a bar for 800 Baht long time. It was raining heavily during closing time and I was the only option she had). This is completely a fluid situation, especially with freelancers. The most probable thing will happen that you may not get that particular girl at a lower price in future.
Bandy
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Bandy,
Totally agree on this point. As a 3 or 4 time a year visitor (2 or 3 weeks at a time) for past 13 years I am not a newbie. I get a bit bored and pissed off by any conversation on this site about price. OK I understand about new people wanting a ball park number but thats all it is. Some members on here are famous for their " Oh i wouldnt pay more than 300B on BR or I would never pay more than 1000B ST" etc etc. Every encounter is different and every guy is different. i have paid 3000B LT and I have paid 300B ST and I have had many free sessions, particulary in my last 3 months here in pattaya.
It's all about the girl that day, the particular guy and the chemistry between the two. Please dont ever listen to the chest thumping pricks who say they can get it for x or y. fuck it. Just pay what you want based on how good a time you had and how much you like that girl. Dont give a shit about anyone that says you are overpaying and single handedly raising the prices in the biggest mongering city in the world. You arent. If they cant afford it then they should just stay in their trailer back home :-) Our other Indian friends wont be affected much cos they are all still splitting it between about 5 guys on beach road. :-) hehehe
JohntheScot
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[QUOTE=Rjsss212]WITH ALL DUE RESPECT THOUGH, why do you fuckin care!?! He already said it was his last fuckin nite and she was the best fuckin thing he'd seen….AND IT WAS HIS FUCKIN MONEY! Jesus Fuckin Christ![/QUOTE]
Too much Viagra matey, Try Valium?? :-)
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[QUOTE=Bandy]She was saying that she is very scared and do this thing very rarely. She asked for 3000 Baht and quickly agreed for 2500 Baht (Highest I paid for a girl in this trip). I had simply absolutely unforgettable time for almost two hours. We took a shower and tried to sleep a little bit holding each other. But she kept getting phone calls from her mother. I could feel she wanted to stay more, but had to leave around 6:30 AM. [/QUOTE]Excellent report. Thanks for the new info and the picture. She was definitely beautiful, but I don't think she was too scared if she asked for 3K. I have never heard that come from anybody's mouth in Pattaya. Are you sure it was her mother calling her and not her friend? What time did your wingman's date leave?
Good thing about the cell phone that I have now is that it has a program called "fake call me" where you can program it to make a fake incoming call at a certain time. You can even put what number you want it to say it is calling from.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Excellent report. Thanks for the new info and the picture. She was definitely beautiful, but I don't think she was too scared if she asked for 3K. I have never heard that come from anybody's mouth in Pattaya. Are you sure it was her mother calling her and not her friend? What time did your wingman's date leave?
Good thing about the cell phone that I have now is that it has a program called "fake call me" where you can program it to make a fake incoming call at a certain time. You can even put what number you want it to say it is calling from.[/QUOTE]
Mr E I have definitely had some girls mothers calling them in early afternoon next day many times. The girls say there mothers give them ghassle to send a couple thousand Baht straight away. I've even gone to trhe bank with them while they have done it. Sad!!
Hey you have an iphone?? My iphone does that. It's great. In morning I get it to call from my work and I can say they have to leave as I have to work :-)
JohnTheScot
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recommendations for pattaya 1st time visit!?
Hi all,
Will be in Pattaya for 3 days from 13/11 to 16/11. I will stay at siam bayview hotel. Need a program for 3 days for best places to visit (ie bars gogo's etc.)
Any recommendations?
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Fun on tap
[QUOTE=Halanse]Hi all, Will be in Pattaya for 3 days from 13/11 to 16/11. I will stay at siam bayview hotel. Need a program for 3 days for best places to visit (ie bars gogo's etc.) Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Places I've been to recently and enjoyed:
Secrets Bar -- nice hostesses / pretty Coyote dancers
Cavern a-Go-Go
Living Dolls a-Go-Go
Champagne a-Go-Go -- cheap beer at happy hour / ST rooms upstairs
Beer Garden (for food and view) - ladies there as well
Obsessions/Kitten Club -- crazy ladyboys mixed with Go-Go dancers
Billabong Hotel -- good breakfast
There is so much to offer in Pattaya that it is fun just to try new places as you go...
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More fun on tap
[QUOTE=Halanse]Will be in Pattaya for 3 days from 13/11 to 16/11. I will stay at siam bayview hotel. Need a program for 3 days for best places to visit (ie bars gogo's etc.) Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]
Fon Tok has a very good list. I would also add:
Baccara a-Go-Go
Happy a-Go-Go
Beach a-Go-Go
Peppermint a-Go-Go
X-Zone part Go-Go and part buck wild
Also suggest taking a stroll through Soi 6 and stopping in a few of the bars; must see for a first timer.
I also like hanging out in the open-air bars, playing silly board games with the girls, and watching kick boxing.
3 days will fly by in no time! And you will return!
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Don't forget the Blowjob Bars
[quote=halanse]hi all,
will be in pattaya for 3 days from 13/11 to 16/11. i will stay at siam bayview hotel. need a program for 3 days for best places to visit (ie bars gogo's etc.)
any recommendations?[/quote]
don't leave thailand without having tried a blowjob bar. these places are a bit expensive, but the "fun under the table" experience is to sleazy to pass up on.
classy establishments (lol) like "pump station" and "spicy girl" on soi 13/2 will set you back 375 baht to take the girl upstairs, and another 500 for her to do her thing, but sitting on a bar chair drinking a beer, watching porn play on the tv, while getting blown away is just too sleazy of an experience to be missed.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s is also a blowjob bar but it's not as sleazy, but stop by there one day for your after breakfast blowjob, it's also a nice place to start out your evening.
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin]Fon Tok has a very good list. I would also add:
Baccara a-Go-Go
Happy a-Go-Go
Beach a-Go-Go
Peppermint a-Go-Go
X-Zone part Go-Go and part buck wild
Also suggest taking a stroll through Soi 6 and stopping in a few of the bars; must see for a first timer.
I also like hanging out in the open-air bars, playing silly board games with the girls, and watching kick boxing.
3 days will fly by in no time! And you will return![/QUOTE]
And don't miss out on spending an evening at Angelwitch, this in my view is by far the best go-go in Pattaya and it has some really good shows and a few very hot girls. It has a great set up with "stadium" seating, and is worth spending a whole evening IMHO even if you have limited time in Patts.
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Yep...
Angelwitch is great!!
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]And don't miss out on spending an evening at Angelwitch, this in my view is by far the best go-go in Pattaya and it has some really good shows and a few very hot girls. It has a great set up with "stadium" seating, and is worth spending a whole evening IMHO even if you have limited time in Patts.[/QUOTE]
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I was told just last week that X-Zone might be charging a entry fee?
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I was told just last week that X-Zone might be charging a entry fee?
LBM[/QUOTE]
That's crazy. Maybe the pushy Mamasan isn't pulling in the cash like she used to. Or maybe people aren't drinking enough, or tipping enough, or not tipping at all. Giving the requested 100 baht or 2 drinks (260 baht) to fist a girl isn't a big deal.
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[quote=fun and sun]don't leave thailand without having tried a blowjob bar. these places are a bit expensive, but the "fun under the table" experience is to sleazy to pass up on.
classy establishments (lol) like "pump station" and "spicy girl" on soi 13/2 will set you back 375 baht to take the girl upstairs, and another 500 for her to do her thing, but sitting on a bar chair drinking a beer, watching porn play on the tv, while getting blown away is just too sleazy of an experience to be missed.
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s is also a blowjob bar but it's not as sleazy, but stop by there one day for your after breakfast blowjob, it's also a nice place to start out your evening.[/quote]
how much for the penicillin shot?
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X-Zone Door charge
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I was told just last week that X-Zone might be charging a entry fee?
LBM[/QUOTE]I was in X-Zone, last night Wed 3rd Nov.
No door charge, and I had 2 very obliging, hands on girls, and only bought 2 LD's each for them.
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Don't leave Thailand without having tried a Blowjob Bar. These places are a bit expensive,[/QUOTE]
Bliss Lounge, 3rd road opposite X-Zyte Disco, 600 baht all in. Nicer facilities too.
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Bliss
Yes Bliss is the right name for this venue, very nice friendly staff.
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You can take the monger out of Pattaya...
Mongering in Pattaya
I always arrive in Pattaya a bit of a wreck having mongered in Bangkok for a few nights. It then usually takes me a couple of nights to resume shagging in Pattaya getting used to all the fat old ugly bastards you have to share the bars with. This time was no exception.
On the first night I do meet a lovely beer girl top of soi 2, just up from my hotel Sabai Inn girlfriendly budget hotel down soi 2. I'm quite surprised on her attractiveness, exceptional for a beer bar and considering this was my first stop, what a find. I not barfine her that night but she agrees to let me barfine her another night.
She is sponsored up to the hilt and can pick and choose who she lets barfine her. One of her boyfriends an American soldier on leave from Afghanstan is taking her out of the bar for 20 days to Koh Chang. The she is off to Austria for a holiday with her Austrian boyfriend. In fact while getting to know her in the bar, her cell phone was constantly ringing with a picture of a different hansum man popping up we were both having a good laugh. She recently lost her 50yo English sponsor who was sending her 2000 baht a month but found out she was still working in the bar. She keen to remind me she really is a bad girl. So your lucky to even catch her working in the bar.
SuperGirl Gogo
My first barfine was from the SuperGirl Agogo down soi diamond off Walking street. I like this Gogo, always some quality girls inside, some hairy pussy on show too, lots of Japanese and the hostesses are quite professional. GOrgeous girl soaping herself in the tub totally naked with a body to die for. Barfine her and back to my hotel.
In here now pay all fees up front. 700BF, ST 1500, LT 2500. I take her ST. Back at the hotel she had one of the tightest pussies I have ever fucked, like a virgin.
Soi 2 Beer Bar Girl
The next night I'm a bit too drunk to fuck but later that night sit down in the soi 2 beer bar again and chat to my girl. I'm surprised she is here, she must be saying no to all the offers. She tell me day after tomorrow boyfriend comes so have to barfine her now. So I do. Back at the hotel manage quite well her pussy much more accomodating and she stays the night. In the morning much more of the same. She a naughty girl. The next night I spend some time with her in the bar we play some bar games and she give me one of her emails.
6 Hands Massage
Another night do a few gogos around soi Pattayaland but nothing outstanding, feeling a bit tired so take a 1 hour massage, nothing sexual but does the trick and I'm ready to resume hunting, pass another massage place further down the same soi and three girls wanting to give me massage together, never done 6 hands so jump in 1 hour for 600 baht 200 baht each.
Well I'm laying on my front naked and I can hear them giggling and then fingers in my crack and touching my balls. When I turn over there asking me want happy ending, 500B each for HJ, I tell them want BJ without condom, they ok with this. But only 1 was really doing it, the other were making '00000hhhh' sounds and pinching my nipples etc, not what I had in mind. I then started to think the one doing the sucking was a ladyboy! They were all below average looking, I don't know what comes over me sometime, eventually one wanks me off while the other is sucking, but pulls away as I cum!
The one doing the sucking, she say I look like her English boyfriend, Keven Butler a postman, did I know him? Not likely theres alot of people living in the UK, but Kevin if your reading this, tell me she was not a he once upon time?
Sio 6 threesome
Few days later feeling horny so head round to soi 6 early evening. I see two girls that are not bad sat outside the red spot bar, or something like that, I really want a double blowjob with tongues, saliva and CIM and they say ok, no problem. So 1 hour 300B BF and 700B ST, so 2000B in total.
The room is nice and big and very clean, we all take a shower together and then onto the bed. One is really good at sucking the other much better at licking, its a good job and eventually they are both licking and wanking and I'm finished.
Champion Agogo Girl
That same night I end up in Champions Agogo just when I'm thinking of calling a night and notice this really cute girl. 600BF and agree 2000B LT, back to the hotel, she is rather young looking and feel a little embarressed walking down the street with her, we jump on a Baht bus to my hotel, and receptionist confirms to me ok, she is 19.
Lovely girl, really affectionate and loves sex, cannot take her hands off my cock all night saying her my friend. Her english not so good so get the netbook out google translate and a thai virtual keyboard for her. We fuck lots but cannot cum. So we sleep.
Around 3am her mobile rings, I can hear her friend, she tell me she has to go, her friend locked out and she has the key, I'm dissapointed as its lovely to be cuddled up with such a little thai cutie. This is what makes it all worthwhile, where in the world can you get this?
We fuck some more before she leaves, this time I'm finding it hard to not cum, I just look at that little pussy and bang! Lovely girl, good night! As she leave early I pay her 1500B.
Pattaya Photos
[url]http://picasaweb. Google.com/SirMarjAlot/Pattaya2010[/url]
Pattaya Video
[url]http://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=f8z10mMvObA[/url]
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This is the way to report!
Nice report SMA, well written with details on prices and pics of the girls to illustrate. This is the way to report! :)
[QUOTE=SirMarjAlot]Mongering in Pattaya
I always arrive in Pattaya a bit of a wreck having mongered in Bangkok for a few nights. It then usually takes me a couple of nights to resume shagging in Pattaya getting used to all the fat old ugly bastards you have to share the bars with. This time was no exception.
On the first night I do meet a lovely beer girl top of soi 2, just up from my hotel Sabai Inn girlfriendly budget hotel down soi 2. I'm quite surprised on her attractiveness, exceptional for a beer bar and considering this was my first stop, what a find. I not barfine her that night but she agrees to let me barfine her another night.
She is sponsored up to the hilt and can pick and choose who she lets barfine her. One of her boyfriends an American soldier on leave from Afghanstan is taking her out of the bar for 20 days to Koh Chang. The she is off to Austria for a holiday with her Austrian boyfriend. In fact while getting to know her in the bar, her cell phone was constantly ringing with a picture of a different hansum man popping up we were both having a good laugh. She recently lost her 50yo English sponsor who was sending her 2000 baht a month but found out she was still working in the bar. She keen to remind me she really is a bad girl. So your lucky to even catch her working in the bar.
SuperGirl Gogo
My first barfine was from the SuperGirl Agogo down soi diamond off Walking street. I like this Gogo, always some quality girls inside, some hairy pussy on show too, lots of Japanese and the hostesses are quite professional. GOrgeous girl soaping herself in the tub totally naked with a body to die for. Barfine her and back to my hotel.
In here now pay all fees up front. 700BF, ST 1500, LT 2500. I take her ST. Back at the hotel she had one of the tightest pussies I have ever fucked, like a virgin.
Soi 2 Beer Bar Girl
The next night I'm a bit too drunk to fuck but later that night sit down in the soi 2 beer bar again and chat to my girl. I'm surprised she is here, she must be saying no to all the offers. She tell me day after tomorrow boyfriend comes so have to barfine her now. So I do. Back at the hotel manage quite well her pussy much more accomodating and she stays the night. In the morning much more of the same. She a naughty girl. The next night I spend some time with her in the bar we play some bar games and she give me one of her emails.
6 Hands Massage
Another night do a few gogos around soi Pattayaland but nothing outstanding, feeling a bit tired so take a 1 hour massage, nothing sexual but does the trick and I'm ready to resume hunting, pass another massage place further down the same soi and three girls wanting to give me massage together, never done 6 hands so jump in 1 hour for 600 baht 200 baht each.
Well I'm laying on my front naked and I can hear them giggling and then fingers in my crack and touching my balls. When I turn over there asking me want happy ending, 500B each for HJ, I tell them want BJ without condom, they ok with this. But only 1 was really doing it, the other were making '00000hhhh' sounds and pinching my nipples etc, not what I had in mind. I then started to think the one doing the sucking was a ladyboy! They were all below average looking, I don't know what comes over me sometime, eventually one wanks me off while the other is sucking, but pulls away as I cum!
The one doing the sucking, she say I look like her English boyfriend, Keven Butler a postman, did I know him? Not likely theres alot of people living in the UK, but Kevin if your reading this, tell me she was not a he once upon time?
Sio 6 threesome
Few days later feeling horny so head round to soi 6 early evening. I see two girls that are not bad sat outside the red spot bar, or something like that, I really want a double blowjob with tongues, saliva and CIM and they say ok, no problem. So 1 hour 300B BF and 700B ST, so 2000B in total.
The room is nice and big and very clean, we all take a shower together and then onto the bed. One is really good at sucking the other much better at licking, its a good job and eventually they are both licking and wanking and I'm finished.
Champion Agogo Girl
That same night I end up in Champions Agogo just when I'm thinking of calling a night and notice this really cute girl. 600BF and agree 2000B LT, back to the hotel, she is rather young looking and feel a little embarressed walking down the street with her, we jump on a Baht bus to my hotel, and receptionist confirms to me ok, she is 19.
Lovely girl, really affectionate and loves sex, cannot take her hands off my cock all night saying her my friend. Her english not so good so get the netbook out google translate and a thai virtual keyboard for her. We fuck lots but cannot cum. So we sleep.
Around 3am her mobile rings, I can hear her friend, she tell me she has to go, her friend locked out and she has the key, I'm dissapointed as its lovely to be cuddled up with such a little thai cutie. This is what makes it all worthwhile, where in the world can you get this?
We fuck some more before she leaves, this time I'm finding it hard to not cum, I just look at that little pussy and bang! Lovely girl, good night! As she leave early I pay her 1500B.
Pattaya Photos
[url]http://picasaweb. Google.com/SirMarjAlot/Pattaya2010[/url]
Pattaya Video
[url]http://www.Youtube.com/watch?v=f8z10mMvObA[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Nice report SMA, well written with details on prices and pics of the girls to illustrate. This is the way to report! :)[/QUOTE]Thanks I knew someone would appreciate it.
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Sir, - nice.
Makes me want to hop a plane tonight.
Great videos too.
Thanks
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Pattaya videos
[QUOTE=Brassballs]Sir, - nice.
Makes me want to hop a plane tonight.
Great videos too.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Thanks, the video came out a bit of a blur, was originally in MP4 format and then had to convert it to AVI to edit in MS MovieMaker which them saves the video in a windows format. You then upload it to youtube which converts it again. Its a lot clearer when watching on my machine.
The Pattaya beach one is clearer. Its shows how filthy the beach can get and a jet ski scam going down.
[url]http://www.Youtube.com/watch? V=hKpovXfZOLI[/url]
Just got one of those Nokia N8 with HD video, so next batch I take should be alot better. I enjoy it. Not as much as fucking the girls though.
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[QUOTE=SirMarjAlot]Mongering in Pattaya[/QUOTE]Super report! I am sure will be very handy while I am back in Pattaya next week!
Need to know where to find Russian gals in Pattaya? Is there any bar or club? What will be ST price?
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[QUOTE=RedMercury]Super report! I am sure will be very handy while I am back in Pattaya next week!
Need to know where to find Russian gals in Pattaya? Is there any bar or club? What will be ST price?[/QUOTE]Thanks.
Personally I have never done a Russian in Thailand, but you get a few walking up and down Walking street and a few sat in bars around there. I think you are meant to break the ice with them. I use to see alot in the CM2 nightclub in Bangkok. I think they start negotiations around 5000B.
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Locked out...
[quote=sirmarjalot]...around 3am her mobile rings, i can hear her friend, she tell me she has to go, her friend locked out and she has the key, i'm dissapointed as its lovely to be cuddled up with such a little thai cutie.[/quote]good report and photos. you found some nice women in your quest to enjoy pattaya.
the [i]telephone / lost key story.[/i] if i had 10 baht for every time i've heard this, i could buy myself a bj at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s! lol... ;)
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[QUOTE=SirMarjAlot]Thanks, the video came out a bit of a blur, was originally in MP4 format and then had to convert it to AVI to edit in MS MovieMaker which them saves the video in a windows format. You then upload it to youtube which converts it again. Its a lot clearer when watching on my machine.
The Pattaya beach one is clearer. Its shows how filthy the beach can get and a jet ski scam going down.
[url]http://www.Youtube.com/watch? V=hKpovXfZOLI[/url]
Just got one of those Nokia N8 with HD video, so next batch I take should be alot better. I enjoy it. Not as much as fucking the girls though.[/QUOTE]
Probably just me being stupid, but the link don't seem to work...
Gotta love those jet ski scams that you have broken it when you ride it. One day in Patts I sat at the beach all day on my beach chair, amusing myself in various ways, especially watching these two thai scam artists that would reveal the same damage to the jet ski whenever someone rented it from them and claim damages for it... Kudos to all their customers though, because all of them told them to f&%k off...
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Nice report SMA, well written with details on prices and pics of the girls to illustrate. This is the way to report! :)[/QUOTE]
I'm with you. Great report mate!
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Probably just me being stupid, but the link don't seem to work.
Have to love those jet ski scams that you have broken it when you ride it. One day in Patts I sat at the beach all day on my beach chair, amusing myself in various ways, especially watching these two thai scam artists that would reveal the same damage to the jet ski whenever someone rented it from them and claim damages for it. Kudos to all their customers though, because all of them told them to f&%k off.[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone, glad you enjoyed the post and summary report. It was a good hunting trip for Pattaya. Really need to spend more time there, at least a month but unfortunately still a wage slave which is what allows me to escape there sometimes. So thanks for small mercies
Remove the spaces from the links and then should be fine.
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Pattaya Video Beach
Sorry about that link to Pattaya beach video, was not right here it is
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKpovXfZOLI[/url]
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SirMarjAlot,
amazing post and blog.
Thanks
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[quote=fon tok]the [i]telephone / lost key story.[/i] if i had 10 baht for every time i've heard this, i could buy myself a bj at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s! lol... ;)[/quote]you and me both. it doesn't bother me a bit now though. i simply cut the agreed upon price in half and bid them adieu.
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a while ago i went for an appetizer on maitri chit street in chinatown (sorry, this is bangkok, the next 6 sessions are in pattaya), just 5 minutes walk from hualamphong train and mrt station. the girl said 1000, i said 700, and she skipped off upstairs so quickly i'm sure she would have accepted less. i followed, a studious-looking guy asked 100 for the room and handed me a sliver of soap and a condom.
the girl is to my taste, but she would obviously be out of place in the fishbowl of a soapy. too dark, to begin with. the en suite bathroom is about 50cm wide, with a bucket for the shower. i've been in worse rooms for two or three times the price. but that's not saying much.
the following saturday in soi 6, i stroll down and don't spot any of my targets at their bars. i spot a spinner i didn't notice before, with one of those dyed blonde anime hairdos. i take her upstairs and she turns out to be one of the worst performers i've had in recent memory, all "you too big", declining doggy (because i'm "too big"), "you come quick now", and so forth and so on. this wasn't a problem, as it rather fit with the feeling of bonking a barbie doll made out of very lifelike warm plastic. i actually got along with her quite well too in a businesslike kind of way, and i found out that she normally works in one of the rainbow bars in nana. so why is she slumming it in soi 6? because she has a japanese boyfriend who is sponsoring her not to work. he knows many ladies in bangkok, and he'll find out if she's working there. so now she's doing it for 700 a go instead, making it up in volume. she'll have to improve her attitude though if she wants to compete on soi 6, where we aren't used to pay for being snubbed.
next i strolled back and though i still didn't spot my target, i went into her bar where i was followed in by a girl who was a bit more tattooed and slutty, but who hit my buttons in just the same way. absolutely blissful session follows upstairs. she falls asleep in my arms afterwards. for sure i'll return the next day. 800b for her, including tip, 300 for the room, as ever.
the rest of the evening i spend in gogos, the last one being a grungy little hole off walking street, called smile girls or something. very filthy in a good way if you're comfortable with confronting your mortality.
finally i wander off to my room, picking up a regular massage girl on the way, as she was shutting up the shop where she works (and lives). she always stays lt for 1000, but i'm not demanding. i don't give more specifics because there's absolutely nothing remarkable about her or where i found her, it could have been at any of the many little massage shops, the moment was right and i met her eyes, and we turned out to suit each other.
the next day i head off to soi 6 again in the afternoon, where not one but two of my targets are now at their posts. i go for the less gfe one first, her face is not that beautiful, though she has a lovely goofy smile that comes out if she's in the mood, but her body reliably blows my mind.
at the second bar i spot saturday's girl first, but regretfully have to pass on her for her cuter colleague who i missed the previous day. (on a subsequent trip, i took them upstairs together.)
to end off the weekend, i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s where a brave girl performed a gruelling task to get me off for the fourth time that day. she did it with such selfless dedication that i was concerned for her state of mind.
prices where not mentioned are standard and on the forum.
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Is Christmas to New Year a good time to visit pattaya?
To the seniors and more experienced with the pattaya scene - I was planning on making a trip to Pattaya and was wondering if New years would be a good time visit or does the supply demand become unfavorable for a first time visitors. I know there are plenty of girls but obviously with lot more potential customers, chances of us getting ripped of increase many fold.
Would it be better to visit in December before Christmas? Any feed back is appreciated.
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New Years or Christmas
[QUOTE=Bobbysays]To the seniors and more experienced with the pattaya scene - I was planning on making a trip to Pattaya and was wondering if New years would be a good time visit or does the supply demand become unfavorable for a first time visitors. I know there are plenty of girls but obviously with lot more potential customers, chances of us getting ripped of increase many fold.
Would it be better to visit in December before Christmas? Any feed back is appreciated.[/QUOTE]
It would be pretty difficult to pick a WORST time of the year to visit Pattaya than on New Years. It is the biggest holiday in Thailand and somewhere between 25% to 50% of the girls goes home to visit their families for a few weeks, months or never return at all.
Also around this time of the year the bars try to make a lot more money and double their bar fines and the girls are also a lot less negotiable. You would certainly be better off here before Christmas, they for the most part do not know what it is or celebrate it.
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High season
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]It would be pretty difficult to pick a WORST time of the year to visit Pattaya than on New Years. [/QUOTE]
Absolutely correct. Prices are up accross the board during New Year when demand peaks, so expect to pay more for hotels, flights, girls - while the quality of service tends to nosedive (no pun intended) during the same period. You can still have a great time but be prepared to be more selective and spend extra money.
I have the luxury of spending ten months of the year in Asia and I hug the low season as a rule because costs are down and the quality of service is generally better. Luckily the high season in Thailand and the Philippines (Nov-March) is the low season in places like Vietnam (outside of the Hanoi and HCMC) in my experience, so bargains are always available and the girls a little hungry.
The other non-mongering factor to bear in mind is that the "high season" in Thailand reflects demand and not necessarily the weather. The weather is hot and fine in Pattaya in December but down south in places like Samui and Koh Phangan the monsoon kicks in around November just when the so-called "high-season" begins. Consequently a lot of naive Europeans end up experiencing a very soggy, expensive holiday simply because they assumed the high season correlates with good weather. Not always the case in LOS.
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami]It would be pretty difficult to pick a WORST time of the year to visit Pattaya than on New Years.[/QUOTE]Agree, but there are a couple: 1) any extended Buddhist or Royal holiday and 2) Songkran.
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High Season / Low Season
If I may inquire when is the Low and High Seasons in Pattaya. I was there last month and remembered what I paid for Hotel, Girls, Etc. ?
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[QUOTE=Beaverhunter]If I may inquire when is the Low and High Seasons in Pattaya. I was there last month and remembered what I paid for Hotel, Girls, Etc. ?[/QUOTE]
From one of the hotel's Web site:
Off Season
1st May - 30th Jun
1st Oct - 31st Oct
High Season
8th Jan - 19th Jan
20th Jan - 30th Apr
1st Jul - 30th Sep
1st Nov - 19th Dec
Peak Season
20th Dec - 7th Jan
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[QUOTE=RedMercury]Super report! I am sure will be very handy while I am back in Pattaya next week!
Need to know where to find Russian gals in Pattaya? Is there any bar or club? What will be ST price?[/QUOTE]
If you have time you could head up near Soi 16 and find the bar where a ton of Russians are hanging out. Then you can buy a bottle of vodka + mixers and sit there all night inviting people / girls to drink with you. The goal here would be to nail a girl on a holiday, not a FL.
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HIGH season - about NOV 1 to APR 30 (more or less)
LOW season - 1 MAY to 31 OCT
or whatever time period the hotels can influence you to be "high" season. MANY have a surcharge between 25 DEC and 3 or 4 JAN (evidenced by "mandatory" buying of food/room rates etc)
Simply put - RAINY SEASON is LOW, DRY SEASON is HIGH (particularly in prone to flooding Pattaya)
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Pattaya in peak season
Hi,
This year I have to take holidays during christmass and new year eve. I have been to Thailand several taimes but in November or March, so I am wondering how much crowded it will be in christmass period. I am considering Pattaya Phuket or Krabi(where I have not been yet). My first choice would be Pattaya but I wonder if it's so crowded that you do not find place in beer bars or restaurants. Do girls lift up prices in that period? Do you still find decent girls if you arrive at christmass? I usually go to beer bar and not gogo.
Thanks for attention.
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[QUOTE=Betong]Agree, but there are a couple: 1) any extended Buddhist or Royal holiday and 2) Songkran.[/QUOTE]So Songkran is not a good time to go? I assume this is for the same reason, because a lot of the girls go home to Isaan? Damn, Songkran sounds cool, I was hoping to check it out this year.
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[QUOTE=The Scout]If you have time you could head up near Soi 16 and find the bar where a ton of Russians are hanging out. [/QUOTE]Will let you know, I will be in Pattaya on Monday!
Hope to nail a few russians and a bunch of asians!
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[QUOTE=Wee Fella]So Songkran is not a good time to go? I assume this is for the same reason, because a lot of the girls go home to Isaan? Damn, Songkran sounds cool, I was hoping to check it out this year.[/QUOTE]
Dude, don't go to Patts during Songkran whatever you do. The water fights are fun for one day, but getting sprayed with ice cold water and having chalk smeared on you whenever you go outside quickly gets annoying by the second day and it goes for a whole week in Pattaya. There is no opting out of it, and wherever you go during the day you will get sprayed.
If the only time you can go is during Songkran, stay at a hotel with a swimming pool so you can relax there during the day and don't need to venture outside during the day time. It quiets down at night.
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Dude, don't go to Patts during Songkran whatever you do. The water fights are fun for one day, but getting sprayed with ice cold water and having chalk smeared on you whenever you go outside quickly gets annoying by the second day and it goes for a whole week in Pattaya. There is no opting out of it, and wherever you go during the day you will get sprayed.[/QUOTE]True indeed. This advice is greatly appreciated. Songkran goes downhill quickly especially once foreigners/farangs become inebriated. They go way overboard with the water guns. Some are not even inebriated and still act like lunatics with water guns. Rudeness, and disrespect become the norm. Can quickly lead to a fight, stabbing (or worse). The Thai's themselves can be aggressive with the celebration. But they never let it get to the point of blatant disrespect.
I'll never go to Phuket or Pattaya during Songkran again. Too many drunken foreigners kill the vibe. And they won't stop if you say "no thanks mate" Properly beating off a drunken farang hell bent on offending you with a water gun. Is not worth going to prison for in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Dude, don't go to Patts during Songkran whatever you do. The water fights are fun for one day, but getting sprayed with ice cold water and having chalk smeared on you whenever you go outside quickly gets annoying by the second day and it goes for a whole week in Pattaya. There is no opting out of it, and wherever you go during the day you will get sprayed.
If the only time you can go is during Songkran, stay at a hotel with a swimming pool so you can relax there during the day and don't need to venture outside during the day time. It quiets down at night.[/QUOTE]
AGREED! Songkran is terrible! One day is fun, everything else after that is not as fun as it sounds, luckily Songkran in Pattaya starts the day after it ends in Bangkok. So if you can only go during this time you can avoid it by splitting time in Bangkok.
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Dude, don't go to Patts during Songkran whatever you do. The water fights are fun for one day, but getting sprayed with ice cold water and having chalk smeared on you whenever you go outside quickly gets annoying by the second day and it goes for a whole week in Pattaya. There is no opting out of it, and wherever you go during the day you will get sprayed.
If the only time you can go is during Songkran, stay at a hotel with a swimming pool so you can relax there during the day and don't need to venture outside during the day time. It quiets down at night.[/QUOTE]
You did well to to last one day...the novelty wore of for me after about 3 hours.
Just as you dry off from a soaking you get soaked again. Not to mention the hassle of protecting your wallet, phone, camera, etc.
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[QUOTE=Sainter21]You did well to to last one day...the novelty wore of for me after about 3 hours.
Just as you dry off from a soaking you get soaked again. Not to mention the hassle of protecting your wallet, phone, camera, etc.[/QUOTE]
Some guys claim that Songkran is great fun -------- I have experienced it once, never again, OK for 7 year olds or guys with the mind of a 7 year old, to see what I mean check out Songkran on You-Tube.
AVOID.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab]Some guys claim that Songkran is great fun -------- I have experienced it once, never again, OK for 7 year olds or guys with the mind of a 7 year old, to see what I mean check out Songkran on You-Tube.
AVOID.[/QUOTE]Its an experience. Soi 6 on Songkran can be nice, semi-wholesome fun. Unless your in a BKK shopping center, BTS, your likely to get wet during Songkran in Thailand or you will be crossing the street often to avoid groups of kids/people stationed at street corners and riding in roving pick ups.
One positive is. If your out all day, you won't look tired and sweaty, you will just be soaked.
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How much is a short time at Soi Six
It's been a while since I've had the Soi Six experience.
Five years ago, 2005 or so, it was bar fine 300 baht for the bar fine with the room included for one hour.
The girl was paid 500 Baht.
I was there yesterday and had the cutest little girl. She was 20, relatively new, and didn't speak English, but I'm practically fluent in Thai (speaking-wise - I haven't practiced or studied formally for a while so my writing skills are a bit rusty), so it didn't matter.
After fooling around on the couch for a while, I wanted to go upstairs, and she said 1000 Baht. I was totally cool with it and so I gladly paid her. The shower was broken afterwards, so we hung out in the room and fooled around some more. I gave her an additional 200 Baht at the end.
I'm sure I probably paid too much, but I'd like to know what the going rate is at Soi Six.
Since it was 500 Baht in 2005, I assumed it might have gone up since then, but I also believe that 1000 Baht was probably the optimistic asking price.
In these times, with the USD at 30 THB, I've heard it's not hard to get girls in Pattaya and BKK down to 1500 Baht, ST.
TL;DR
What's the going rate for short time at Soi Six?
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Soi Six ST Follow-up
Searching Google, I found this link:
[url]http://www.pattaya-funtown.com/bars_pattaya.html[/url]
[quote]Bar fines in short-time bars are usually around 300 Baht and typically include the room rental fee for up to one hour. Most short-time girls should be satisfied anything between 500 and 1000 Baht for sexual services, but 700 seems to be the norm these days.[/quote]
I don't have a date of this publication, but it seems fairly recent.
Seems that 500-1000 is the range with about 700 being the norm.
Comments?
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Soi 6 is still 300 (was 200 a couple of years ago) plus 500ST
$1=29B more or less (after the currency exchange costs - even the ATM charges roughly 3%)
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so for those of you going to be there for LOI KRATONG - if you haven't done it before, it's USUALLY LOUD!! Lots of fireworks and the occasional idiot who sets of a mortar with a short fuse and it goes up maybe 10M and pops. IF done on a side soi (like in Jomtien) it gets DEAFENING. The flying dry cleaning bags with the candles is a nice effect - but if the winds blow toward shore, there have been some fires in past years
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Surfing Soi 6
[QUOTE=Soi Six]I'm sure I probably paid too much, but I'd like to know what the going rate is at Soi Six....Since it was 500 Baht in 2005, I assumed it might have gone up since then, but I also believe that 1000 Baht was probably the optimistic asking price...In these times, with the USD at 30 THB, I've heard it's not hard to get girls in Pattaya and BKK down to 1500 Baht, ST...What's the going rate for short time at Soi Six?[/QUOTE]I paid 300/500 at a Soi 6 bar a few days ago. Not a looker, but very, very good service. There's a pic of the lady over in the photo gallery.
I don't think Thai women knowingly adjust their prices for the international exchange rates, and I'm fairly new to the Pattaya scene, but I think you should easily be able to get [i]LT[/i] for 1500 baht (+/-).
Of course, YMMV, though, depending on the point of origin and the attitude/altitude of the woman.
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good condom
Anyone can recommend a good condom, ie., one that allows you to actually feel you are having sex? Needs to be larger than average as the ones I've tried squeeze so hard my dick goes numb.
I searched the forum with words like best/condom/sensitive but way to many reports come back that happen to have those key words but not about the subject.
I looked through the safe sex forum for 2010 but didn't find anything so I am doing a direct request.
I did find a 2009 report in the "General Reports" that recommended a couple but would like to get anyone else's suggestion.
Thanks in advance.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Anyone can recommend a good condom, ie., one that allows you to actually feel you are having sex? [/QUOTE]
The Japanese like their raincoats real thin. I have heard hearty recommendations for the Sagami 002, as this one is apparently so thin that you can forget you have one on. However, I checked in several drug stores in Hong Kong and could not find the Sagami 002 in large size. Maybe it exists in Thailand. I tried the regular size and it felt like the little bastard was trying to strangle my dick. Come to think of it, the guy that recommended this brand was ABC.....
Raz
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I agree, Soi 6 is usually 300 bt barfine (including room) and 700-1000 for the girl (ST). LT is probably 1500, but many of the best ones are not allowed by the mamasan to go LT. The only bar with cuties in Soi 6 (in my opinion) is the Passion Dance Club; 95% of Soi 6 girls (those which ARE girls) are rough, rough, rough.
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Search 'Bareback condoms'.
[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Anyone can recommend a good condom, ie., one that allows you to actually feel you are having sex? Needs to be larger than average as the ones I've tried squeeze so hard my dick goes numb.
I searched the forum with words like best/condom/sensitive but way to many reports come back that happen to have those key words but not about the subject.
I looked through the safe sex forum for 2010 but didn't find anything so I am doing a direct request.
I did find a 2009 report in the "General Reports" that recommended a couple but would like to get anyone else's suggestion.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
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Condoms
Try custom made condoms. Have been using them for a few years and find it's worth it. Discreet delivery and easy to order. Might want to try condomainia
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Anyone can recommend a good condom, ie., one that allows you to actually feel you are having sex? Needs to be larger than average as the ones I've tried squeeze so hard my dick goes numb.[/QUOTE]I would say Crown. Their motto is "the closest thing to nothing at all." But the catch is the larger part. The Crowns are 35mm in diameter while Magnums are 42mm (I just measured). So depending on how I feel...If I am in the mood for comfort and fucking the shit out of some chick then I slide on one of the thicker Magnums. But if I just want to feel how good it is then I squeeze into a Crown. Check out this site and decide for yourself: [url]http://www.condomman.com/page/C/CTGY/Large-Condoms[/url]
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Okamoto
[QUOTE=Slackerslacker]Anyone can recommend a good condom, ie., one that allows you to actually feel you are having sex? Needs to be larger than average as the ones I've tried squeeze so hard my dick goes numb.
I searched the forum with words like best/condom/sensitive but way to many reports come back that happen to have those key words but not about the subject.
I looked through the safe sex forum for 2010 but didn't find anything so I am doing a direct request.
I did find a 2009 report in the "General Reports" that recommended a couple but would like to get anyone else's suggestion.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Slacker,
I use the Okamato 0. 3 Nude, gold or Plantium have not able to find them in Bangkok, I get them in Hong Kong or Shanghai very expensive 3 pkg cost around 95 HKD.
Fast Eddie 48
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Thanks to the Condom advisors
Thanks to all for the info about Condoms.
I will research further.
I have some "Crown Skinless" which I heard were the sheerest but I can't judge as they cut off my circulation and I lose all feeling. Looking at someone's comment that they are only 35mm wide might explain that.
I like the idea of custom condoms. I look forward to ramming my erect cock into the plaster mold and sending it off to the factory.
I will report back if my quest bears fruit.
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Viagra/Cialis for ebook reader?
Is there anyone in US or other Western countries planning to get to Pattaya soon and interested to in getting a supply of generic Viagra/Cialis in return for picking up an ebook reader for me?
I'm in Cambodia (but will be coming to Pattaya in next few days) where I can get hold of generic Viagra / Cialis at very good rates but I've found it next to impossible to find ebook readers. maybe we can get a deal ? I also have an extensive 500+ High Def movie collection (mainstream films plus porn) in MKV format and 25000 MP3s which we may be able to factor into the equation.
PM me if interested.
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Christmas / New Year
[QUOTE=Bobbysays]To the seniors and more experienced with the pattaya scene - I was planning on making a trip to Pattaya and was wondering if New years would be a good time visit or does the supply demand become unfavorable for a first time visitors. I know there are plenty of girls but obviously with lot more potential customers, chances of us getting ripped of increase many fold.
Would it be better to visit in December before Christmas? Any feed back is appreciated.[/QUOTE]If its anything like last year. Over the period from about 23 Dec.5 Jan hotel occupancy will be around 99%. So hotels will charge their peak prices and the supply / demand situation for Girls will not be great. This said as long as you book ahead for accommodation or are prepared to lug your luggage around checking a dozen places for a decent room, its not a huge problem, there will still be plenty of girls around. Thats said if you are able to avoid this period by a few weeks, things wiull for sure be less frantic.
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Pattaya Xmas and New Year
[QUOTE=GregLondon]If its anything like last year. Over the period from about 23 Dec -5 Jan hotel occupancy will be around 99%. So hotels will charge their peak prices and the supply / demand situation for Girls will not be great. This said as long as you book ahead for accommodation or are prepared to lug your luggage around checking a dozen places for a decent room, its not a huge problem, there will still be plenty of girls around. thats said if you are able to avoid this period by a few weeks, things wiull for sure be less frantic.[/QUOTE]I am in Pattaya now, and will be for the next 4 months.
At present, there is lots of accommodation available, and more being built.
What the situation at Christmas and New Year will be like, is anybody's guess.
But, given the worldwide economic situation, high airfares, etc, I think those people expecting a bumper peak season will be in for a let down.
Hotels, maybe full, but there will be lots of 'room only' available.
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Video
Any comments on how girls in the area react to being asked if video taping the action is permissible.
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[QUOTE=Yiddo]I agree, Soi 6 is usually 300 bt barfine (including room) and 700-1000 for the girl (ST).[/QUOTE]
Never had anyone insist on more than 700. Actually the only place where they tried to suggest 1000 was Clansman.
[QUOTE=Yiddo]LT is probably 1500,[/QUOTE]
I paid 1000 to the ones who stayed LT with me, but that's only 2. One recently, and one about a year ago.
[QUOTE=Yiddo]95% of Soi 6 girls (those which ARE girls) are rough, rough, rough.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen them getting tattooed squatting on the sidewalk and biting on a rag for the pain?
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Mailbox is full
Greg, I tried to PM you but your mailbox is full????
[QUOTE=GregLondon]Is there anyone in US or other Western countries planning to get to Pattaya soon and interested to in getting a supply of generic Viagra/Cialis in return for picking up an ebook reader for me?
I'm in Cambodia (but will be coming to Pattaya in next few days) where I can get hold of generic Viagra / Cialis at very good rates but I've found it next to impossible to find ebook readers. maybe we can get a deal ? I also have an extensive 500+ High Def movie collection (mainstream films plus porn) in MKV format and 25000 MP3s which we may be able to factor into the equation.
PM me if interested.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic]Any comments on how girls in the area react to being asked if video taping the action is permissible.[/QUOTE]
You will be surprised at the number of Pattaya girls that are happy to let you make naughty videos with them. Go/go girls are reluctant, beer bar girls are generally up for it if you talk to them for a while first, and 75% of Beach Road girls will allow filming.
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[QUOTE=Fitz1971]Greg, I tried to PM you but your mailbox is full????[/QUOTE]
Sorry about that Fitz and anyone else who has been trying to PM me. I've deleted a bunch of old mails so should be OK now
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[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic]Any comments on how girls in the area react to being asked if video taping the action is permissible.[/QUOTE]
I've videotaped girls having sex with me from Soi 6 as well as go-go bars. Sometimes if the girl is really really hot she will object, but then I'll just choose another girl - they know this. Just ask ask ask beforehand!!
Also, be careful if you are going to Bangkok by bus from Pattaya - if you get off at Ekkamai there are often cops there inspecting the digital cameras of tourists to see if you have any naughty pics or videos -- completely illegal for them to search you but this is Thailand so that doesn't mean shit - it's a massive fine if they find anything.
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Some will
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic]Any comments on how girls in the area react to being asked if video taping the action is permissible.[/QUOTE]
My guesstimate would be around 30% would be OK with it and another 30% will allow if its clear that you will pay a little extra
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[QUOTE=Mangofan]I've videotaped girls having sex with me from Soi 6 as well as go-go bars. Sometimes if the girl is really really hot she will object, but then I'll just choose another girl - they know this. Just ask ask ask beforehand!!
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Yup, asking beforehand is absolutely essential. Once you have bar fined them then they are likely to say no.
I really enjoy filming my adventures in Patts. Think that I have almost 50 girls in my library so far, have posted a few select vids but for some reason the forum doesn't allow links to that particular website anymore.
There is a chap, who has aptly named himself "the loser", who has stolen a few of my vids and posted them on another site. This one is the infamous Na doing what she does best.
[url]http://xhamster.com/movies/278180/tai_blowjob.html[/url]
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Yup, asking beforehand is absolutely essential. Once you have bar fined them then they are likely to say no.
I really enjoy filming my adventures in Patts. Think that I have almost 50 girls in my library so far, have posted a few select vids but for some reason the forum doesn't allow links to that particular website anymore.
There is a chap, who has aptly named himself "the loser", who has stolen a few of my vids and posted them on another site. This one is the infamous Na doing what she does best.
Thanks all, I think I will buy a Kodak Touch Pocket 1080p Camcorder before I leave for Pattaya in a couple of weeks.
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Yup, asking beforehand is absolutely essential. Once you have bar fined them then they are likely to say no.
I really enjoy filming my adventures in Patts. Think that I have almost 50 girls in my library so far, have posted a few select vids but for some reason the forum doesn't allow links to that particular website anymore.
There is a chap, who has aptly named himself "the loser", who has stolen a few of my vids and posted them on another site. This one is the infamous Na doing what she does best.
[url]http://xhamster.com/movies/278180/tai_blowjob.html[/url][/QUOTE]Great selection of vids you have F and S! Would love to see more of your thai adventures:) Keep up the good work mate!
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Report Pattaya
Great reports here!
I felt inspired to write one myself. I was in Pattaya in slow season. It was warm and pleasant, the sun was shining and my wallet and my pants were bursting.
I rented a room in a very sweet hotel just next to walking street, there was a pool in the room and a strip pole(this strippole was situated a meter or so above the floor, at the footend of the bed, and once I tried to fuck a lady on the poles little platform but without success because I couldn't get the angle right) and mirrors everywhere which was wonderful for the sessions. However they were infested with cockroaches that crept around in the corridors etc.
I fucked so much ladies while I stayed there but I will try to account for the most memorable ones.
There was a young girl from the countryside who I had checked out in a gogo bar on walking street. I just went in to the gogo club and told her to sit down next to me, then I bought a couple of baskets with pingpongball to throw out over the ladies in the establishment because I wanted to show of for the young lady. I told her at once that I would pay her barfine and that I would pay her 2000 for longtime, however if I was pleased with the service I would cover her in filthy thai paperbills as a tip. At this she looked quite charmed.
In the lobby to my hotel they had a stand with a gogo-related paper and she showed it to me and told me that it was her on the first page, and so it was, posing with another young thai teen. I still have this paper in my possession and many lonely nights have I relived our enchanted night together with the pictures as help.
When we got up to the room I had her dance for me around the strippole and then I motioned to her to come to me, she climbed down on the bed and crawled over to me on her hands and knees and started sucking me. She didn't look a day older than 16, although I guess she was 18. She wasnt so unsure as some of the younger thaigirls can be when they arrive in Pattaya, she knew how to please a man. After sucking me for a while I layed her on a table that was next to the bed, she was really tiny to fit in that space and I fucked her lovely little pussy with passion. Then I got her on the bed and fucked her doggystyle, hereafter I stood up and I fucked her mouth and she didn't make no complain about it she was really sweet and just took it, however when I came she tried to, and finally managed to pull a way and fell on her back in the bed and the last spurts from my swollen member landed on her stomach or on the bed, and to this day is that for me somewhat of a stain on this great session. However she cought and was visibly taken by my load and I was fully consoled, after she had gone to the bathroom to tidy up I payed her 4000 bath I beleive, the most I have ever payed for a thaylady but it was worth every penny she was so sweet. I wanted another girl that evening and told her to go. She was so happy with the fat tip and my heart was filled with happiness for her capitalistic joy.
Another woman I really can't forget from this trip is a girl I met in a gogo bar that was run by an englishman I think, or american, his name was "jack" or "joe" or something like that and he was very kind to come over and complement me personally on my choice for the evening. The girl was 25 years or so and a bit younger than my lady of choice but she was very beautiful and she had an ass and two rather big tits and we all know how hard such features are to come by in Thailand. I had her make a deal with her friend or her pimp or whatever so she could bring her boots with her to my room. I had also fallen in love with her boots, it was long hooker boots with a one decimeter thick glasheel. I found them so filthy and I had her wear them as I fucked her in my room, I fucked her from behind so hard and what I really liked was that I could pull her hair and stick my fingers in her mouth, and I watched her twisted face in the mirror in front and I watched her big ass in the mirror above the bed. I was so happy at that moment so I almost cried. Unfortunatly the whole session was a bit wild and the condom did break and I unloaded my filthy stack of cum straight in her pussy. I might have gotten a decease or two from her, but then again there are other candidates.
Of course I also visited the hell bar, or what the name is in Pattaya. I had already visited the sisterclub in Bangkok and was very dissapointed with the ladies there so I had turned and left. But in Pattaya I found a wonderful pretty young girl, unfortunatly on the non-anal side of the tape, but I found another also very petite girl on the anal side, also pretty but not so as the non anal one. I walked after them in the stair, and when we got up I must admit that I was not so pleasant as the nice girls in that establishment really deserves. I had at this point already spent 2 weeks in Pattaya and I had fucked so many women so that I had come to see them as cumholes rather than real living pets and playthings.
It is so as with food: very poor people who have known starvation will always eat as savages. But also fat people who always treat themself get sloppy. So was I in Pattaya, the land of filth and fuck.
When we got up I ordered them on their knees and they complied, docile as all young thai women. What was really impressive with this experience was that they really gave me the eye to eye treatment, their beautiful innocent gazes penetrated the deepest covens of my heart and I knew that I had to violate them like a savage of old. I have so much vivid impressions from this session, their tight little asses, how the sugarcuteone tried to stop me and make me go slower with the assfucking of her poor little friend as I could hardly wait for her to oil her up, and I remember how they sucked every last drop out of my dick. Now someone might think that I am very cruel but I was deeply touched with their service and I gave them a much bigger tip than I had heard was custom and they were very happy when I left although I don't think the anal-girl could take anymore assfucking that day.
A rather sweet western gentlemen brushed my shirt at the door and he was so kind as to pinch my blushed cheek, it was obvious that he was happy to have provided me with such a memory and with so much experience in a rather young age.
I hope you all keep living the dream in the paradise of our hearts
I love all of you and I love every single little childish thaigirl with her silly smile and her silly little cellphone, straight out the jungle with worms for brains that is what I call pleasure.
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[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic]
Thanks all, I think I will buy a Kodak Touch Pocket 1080p Camcorder before I leave for Pattaya in a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]
Buy a better camcorder would be my advice, it is an investment that is worth it if you want to get some good movie clips for your collection. Also, get one that has internal memory rather than one that records onto discs since switching discs in the middle of the action is no fun.
Get a tripod too. They are a bit costly but critical for good angle filming and holding the camera during the action yourself is really hard and takes away from the enjoyment of the activity.
You get much better movie clips when it's daylight outside and you have the curtains open than if you turn on every single light in your hotel room. Obviously, always have the light behind the camera and no strong lights in front of the camera. I can't emphasize enough how important good lighting is to making fun home movies.
The easiest movies to make are stationary camera BJ clips and reverse cowgirl. I still find it very hard to get good penetration shots of doggie style, but have seen other people's clips where they have managed to do this. Spend a bit of time watching porn and look at the positions and angles they get into to get some ideas.
When making a BJ clip, make sure the girl puts her hair up or else it will block the camcorder from capturing the action.
Lastly, the camcorder is there to create a fun memory and not to make the best movie possible, so don't let the filming process detract too much from your enjoyment of what you are getting up to.
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[QUOTE=Mrfuckdick]I love all of you and I love every single little childish thaigirl with her silly smile and her silly little cellphone, straight out the jungle with worms for brains that is what I call pleasure.[/QUOTE]I'm sure they feel the same way about you too, Mrfuckdick. Said with not a hint of irony.
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Pattaya musings!
How I miss this city eagerly looking forward to visiting in 2011.
This is a delayed general report of my last two visits in 2009 March and October.
My experience always has been best at soi 6 for daytime fun. The quality of girls and the relaxed atmosphere make it a lot of fun! Also if you reach at 2 pm you find the girls fresh and a lot more responsive in bed. The rates are also very standard 700 + 300 baht.
Sabai Dee massage always finds a place in my trip one visit for a soapie experience is a must. 1800 baht is also quite cheap as compared to some parlours in Bangkok.
Evenings are spent in Beer Garden in a very relaxed and fun atmosphere. I love the feel of the place and the food is also top notch. You occassionally find a good looking girl at the bar but again great place for conversations and relaxed fun.
At night I head out to Lucifer, Insomnia, and Marine. Have really fond memories of some amazing girls I ve met in lucifer gyrating to great music. Love buying beers for women at this place. Just make sure that you like the girl by feeling her up and check the vibe before taking her to your hotel room at night which again is optional. The standard rate is that you pay 1000 baht in the morning for sex. Have met some lovely non- pro semi-pro girls here.
Go-go bars and open beer bars I am not so fond of. Also avoid picking up girls on the beach road unless you are on a really tight budget.
Always stay close to walking street as going back at 3 am with a girl should be fairly easy.
Take care guys and have fun!
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Best take-out
Will be back in town on Dec. 6th. Any recommendations for the best whole package? Both looks and performance. Name of girl and bar. Don't mind paying premium first night back.
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I was breezing through Pattaya two weeks ago (stopover between Europe and the Fast East) and stayed for the first time at LK Renaissance. The hotel is nicely located and extremely guest friendly, but it looks a bit "past its prime". It was only my second time in Pattaya (conversely I sometimes go to BKK on business) and I must say that for a guy like me it's a very, very nice hunting ground: I prefer pick-up bars to gogos and I prefer open-air to indoors venues.
I had a jolly good time picking below-average women out of the beer bars on Soi Diana, many of whom were so delighted at having been picked that they provided a service that was way above what normally gets from more "upscale" providers. I do, however, have one question: in my previous experience with Thailand "Long Time" normally means all night - or for as long as the girl cares to stay, in case she has family obligations to go home to. But it seems (??) that the meaning of the term has been a bit altered in Pattaya. More than once did I pick a provider LT, who provided an enthousiastic first pop and then went to sleep. I normally wake up during the night when someone's sleeping next to me and, in those cases, instinctively tend to fondle my bed partner and try to restart the game. In these cases, however, the girls were extremely unwilling to be woken up, provided a mechanical second pop, and then got out of bed and dressed. They even seemed somewhat bemused that I found this behaviour strange. I take it from this (but some more experienced person may correct me) that LT these days means two pops, and if one wants all-night this should be specified up front?
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Soi Diana
[QUOTE=Priamos]I was breezing through Pattaya two weeks ago (stopover between Europe and the Fast East) and stayed for the first time at LK Renaissance. The hotel is nicely located and extremely guest friendly, but it looks a bit "past its prime"...
...I take it from this (but some more experienced person may correct me) that LT these days means two pops, and if one wants all-night this should be specified up front?[/QUOTE]I thought the LK Renaissance was almost a brand new hotel? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...?
I'm surprised your "LT" providers got up and left early. Most of them like to stay as long as they can in a comfortable room with a nice bed, AC, hot shower, etc. Maybe you worked them too hard? There should not be a "pop limit" for LT. How much had you discussed in the beginning for payment? Understand, though, that every girl is different and most of them are 98% crazy, and/or have a Thai boyfriend waiting at home.
The Soi Diana beer bars always look fun to me - girls dancing on the bar, Isaan music, etc. By the time I'm passing by there, though, I usually have a girl with me for the night.
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[QUOTE=Fon Tok]
I'm surprised your "LT" providers got up and left early. Most of them like to stay as long as they can in a comfortable room with a nice bed, AC, hot shower, etc. Maybe you worked them too hard? There should not be a "pop limit" for LT. How much had you discussed in the beginning for payment? Understand, though, that every girl is different and most of them are 98% crazy, and/or have a Thai boyfriend waiting at home.
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Nothing unusual about girls trying to leave early, sometimes they will get a friend to phone and say there is an emergency -------- you should specify how long you expect her to stay, all night should mean staying until at least 10am.
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Walking Street Go Go Datapoint
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic]Any recommendations for the best whole package? Both looks and performance.[/QUOTE]Things can change in nine days, but for what it's worth right this minute I'm impressed by the talent at Super Baby and Super Girl, both on Soi Diamond. I have been less impressed by the lineup at Heaven Above. I realize that place has a reputation for hiring the hottest girls, but the current crew seems rather rough to my eye.
Bunky
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[QUOTE=Priamos]I was breezing through Pattaya two weeks ago (stopover between Europe and the Fast East) and stayed for the first time at LK Renaissance. The hotel is nicely located and extremely guest friendly, but it looks a bit "past its prime". It was only my second time in Pattaya (conversely I sometimes go to BKK on business) and I must say that for a guy like me it's a very, very nice hunting ground: I prefer pick-up bars to gogos and I prefer open-air to indoors venues.
I had a jolly good time picking below-average women out of the beer bars on Soi Diana, many of whom were so delighted at having been picked that they provided a service that was way above what normally gets from more "upscale" providers. I do, however, have one question: in my previous experience with Thailand "Long Time" normally means all night - or for as long as the girl cares to stay, in case she has family obligations to go home to. But it seems (??) that the meaning of the term has been a bit altered in Pattaya. More than once did I pick a provider LT, who provided an enthousiastic first pop and then went to sleep. I normally wake up during the night when someone's sleeping next to me and, in those cases, instinctively tend to fondle my bed partner and try to restart the game. In these cases, however, the girls were extremely unwilling to be woken up, provided a mechanical second pop, and then got out of bed and dressed. They even seemed somewhat bemused that I found this behaviour strange. I take it from this (but some more experienced person may correct me) that LT these days means two pops, and if one wants all-night this should be specified up front?[/QUOTE]
LT depends on the girl. If she is naive, horny and likes you she will stay LT. Many will stay LT if they think that you are going to be a repeat customer for the following nights. Generally they ask how many days you are going to be in town. As for me I always say a week even if I am leaving the next day.
Remember most of these girls are sexed out to start with. They are tired as well. Usually you get a pop at night and one in the morning. After that if the girl stays with you that means you may get one more. There are exceptions ofcourse. Some are real runners while others are more GFE.
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Finding Girls Without Kids
Q. Can Pattaya regulars please advise how to choose an establishment and identify youngish girls without children? Bear in mind they lie too! I'm thinking Soi 6, Beer Bars and Beach road. A good attitude is more important than looks. I wouldn't pay more than B500 ST + B300 barfine where applicable. To me mothers aren't even worth that. Going bareback is also essential but I've had the snip (with great regret, subsequently). Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Fon Tok]I thought the LK Renaissance was almost a brand new hotel? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong...?
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I wouldn't know. Perhaps it's just poor maintenance, in that case? The fact is, neither the rooms, nor the pool, nor the breakfast restaurant, looked particularly appealing when I was there. I assumed that this was because the hotel, whilst well maintained, was a bit dated. But perhaps it's the other way round? Perhaps the hotel is relatively new, but sloppily maintained? In that case, the tropical heat and humidity quickly take their toll.
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522]Q...youngish girls without children?...Soi 6, Beer Bars and Beach road...attitude is more important than looks...wouldn't pay more than B500 ST + B300...mothers aren't even worth that. [b]Going bareback is also essential...[/b] [/QUOTE]You can find anything in Pattaya if you look hard enough. Lots of young, naive women in town for the high season. Beach Rd. probably best suits your criteria.
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Going bareback...
[QUOTE=Trevor2522]Q. Going bareback is also essential but I've had the snip (with great regret, subsequently). Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Please keep us posted on how your medical treatments are working, after you acquire one or more STDs....
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522]
STDs are nothing ... the real challenge is finding tight girls without babies or an attitude![/QUOTE]
This is very irresponsible. To say that STD is nothing is stupid. And the MMS is a medical fraud. Better not to use the forum for your marketing purposes.
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Move it...
[QUOTE=Lifeingr]This is very irresponsible. To say that STD is nothing is stupid. And the MMS is a medical fraud. Better not to use the forum for your marketing purposes.[/QUOTE]This discussion really needs to be taken to the [b]Safe Sex in Thailand Thread[/b]. Trevor2522 obviously thinks he knows something that 99.99999% of the world does not, and just maybe it deserves at least an airing, or two.
Just not here on the Pattaya thread.
[QUOTE=Trevor2522]STDs are nothing ... the real challenge is finding tight girls without babies or an attitude![/QUOTE]Trev, I hate to burst your bubble, but for most of us, having a weeping dick is no laughing matter!
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I'm not selling MMS and, in any case, each dose only costs pennies. There is no patent; that's why the medical mafia hates it.
Instead of making knee-jerk criticisms why not do your own research and actually try it? You might find that, in conjunction with eating most food raw, that your quality-of-life and health improves to better-enjoy the delights Thailand has to offer.
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522]I'm not selling MMS and, in any case, each dose only costs pennies. There is no patent; that's why the medical mafia hates it.
Instead of making knee-jerk criticisms why not do your own research and actually try it? You might find that, in conjunction with eating most of your food raw, that your quality-of-life and health improves top better-enjoy the delights Thailand has to offer.[/QUOTE]
Of course I've made my research and found out that this think is a fraud. And listen, if the thing was really effective then a pharmaceutical company would have taken it, add a neutral ingredient, make a patent and sell it for $$$.
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How to Bar-Hop Without Downing All That Gassy Draft Beer?
A glass of draft is normally the cheapest entry ticket to the go-gos but I get gassed-out pretty quick. Just wondered what other punters order to keep bloat down without buying high-end drinks? I'm not big on beer, spirits or even coke and would rather just pay-by-time, or nurse my drink, if that's an option.
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Don't knock it until you have tried it...
[QUOTE=Trevor2522]I'm not selling MMS and, in any case, each dose only costs pennies. There is no patent; that's why the medical mafia hates it.
Instead of making knee-jerk criticisms why not do your own research and actually try it? You might find that, in conjunction with eating most food raw, that your quality-of-life and health improves to better-enjoy the delights Thailand has to offer.[/QUOTE]I drink neat bleach for breakfast, and I have never had HIV/AIDS. Can't be a coincidence.
Alternatively you could believe the FDA:
On July 30th, 2010 and again on October 1, 2010, the United States Food and Drug Administration warned against the use of the product "Miracle Mineral Supplement" or "MMS" - which when made up according to instructions produces chlorine dioxide. MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions. The FDA warning told consumers that this industrial bleach can cause serious complications, including severe dehydration, nausea and diarrhea. There have been no reported deaths from use of MMS; however the FDA has received numerous reports of nausea, severe vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure caused by dehydration. [22] The makers of MMS do state that nausea and vomiting is a sign that it is working. Licensed medical professionals and toxicologists would not agree with this statement.
But they laughed at Galieo, didn't they?
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Why not give him directions to the " Bush " let him go bareback and see if his theory works?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522]A glass of draft is normally the cheapest entry ticket to the go-gos but I get gassed-out pretty quick. Just wondered what other punters order to keep bloat down without buying high-end drinks? I'm not big on beer, spirits or even coke and would rather just pay-by-time, or nurse my drink, if that's an option.[/QUOTE]
You can order " Nam Soda " which is basically Thai Carbonated water with Ice. Pretty carbonated, you might now like the taste. First time I didn't but I got use to it.
LBM
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522]A glass of draft is normally the cheapest entry ticket to the go-gos but I get gassed-out pretty quick. Just wondered what other punters order to keep bloat down without buying high-end drinks? I'm not big on beer, spirits or even coke and would rather just pay-by-time, or nurse my drink, if that's an option.[/QUOTE]
As Mama always said: "never drink on an empty tummy son". have a meal before drink. No bloat, works for me, and i consume gallons of beer.
On the FDA. Of course they are protecting the "big market", they are obviously running MMS down because it is a threat to them. FDA don`t have your welfare at heart...only their financial bloat;)
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How to Bar-Hop Without Downing All That Gassy Draft Beer?
[QUOTE=Trevor2522]A glass of draft is normally the cheapest entry ticket to the go-gos but I get gassed-out pretty quick. Just wondered what other punters order to keep bloat down without buying high-end drinks? I'm not big on beer, spirits or even coke and would rather just pay-by-time, or nurse my drink, if that's an option.[/QUOTE]
Why not try bottled water or orange juice? Works for me and NO bloating.
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522]A glass of draft is normally the cheapest entry ticket to the go-gos but I get gassed-out pretty quick. Just wondered what other punters order to keep bloat down without buying high-end drinks? I'm not big on beer, spirits or even coke and would rather just pay-by-time, or nurse my drink, if that's an option.[/QUOTE]
I often order a bottle of light beer at go gos since I also feel a bit full and bloated after a few days of downing loads of regular beer at go-gos and beer bars.
If I am go-go hopping one evening I will usually do the following:
1. Go in, stay standing and look around to see how many girls there are and how hot they are.
2. See if the farang crowd looks decent or if there are a bunch of loud and obnoxious people in there
3. If test 1 and 2 aren't met, then I will just walk out without sitting down. If not then I will take a seat and order myself a drink.
4. If I decide that there is nothing of interest in there, then I often don't finish my drink. The reason for that is that it is easy to get very drunk very fast by going from go-go to go-go and drinking a whole beer at each one of them.
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Oilies with very pretty young masseuses
I've been to a few oily massage places in Pattaya where they seem to specialize in having younger (say 19-21ish) girls, who offer sexy massage and handjobs for 300+500. I've never had full service in this type of place and only rarely any BJ - I'm not sure if its on offer or not - but for me I prefer just a teasing handjob.
I remember seeing a few of this type of place on Soi Chiaphum and a few on Soi Post Office. My favorite girl, quit though, so I'm looking for a new place.
I'm very picky on the masseuse being young and very good looking though, so I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a particular place? I wouldn't mind if it was a bit higher cost than what I mentioned above.
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Sorry to tell you this Trev but "minerals" are totally ineffective against STDs
You might as well drop snake oil into/onto yourself - will work just as well.
Drinks - you COULD order "water" (I do sometimes - depends on my interactions with various pills)
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522]Q. Can Pattaya regulars please advise how to choose an establishment and identify youngish girls without children? Bear in mind they lie too! I'm thinking Soi 6, Beer Bars and Beach road. A good attitude is more important than looks. I wouldn't pay more than B500 ST + B300 barfine where applicable. To me mothers aren't even worth that. Going bareback is also essential but I've had the snip (with great regret, subsequently). Thanks.[/QUOTE]Have a blast.
Dudes on this site and others reporting getting HIV in Pattaya. Maybe you are exempt.
Good luck!
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss]Dudes on this site and others reporting getting HIV in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Then please pass them these links :
[url]http://jimhumble.biz/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12&Itemid=32[/url]
[url]http://www.oneradionetwork.com/[/url] (Jim Humble, Nov 29, 2010 -- Free registration for podcast download).
Just because something is cheap or unendorsed by the authorities doesn't mean it can't do excellent work. I have been taking Master Mineral Solution, actually an internal chlorine dioxide generator which breaks up pathogens, in complete safety for 2 years with good effects. Do your research, read the many testimonials and realise 'The powers that be' see MMS as a threat to their hegemony.
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[QUOTE=Dinghy]sorry to tell you this Trev but "minerals" are totally ineffective against STDs[/QUOTE]Sometimes even antibiotics of the first generation don't help anymore.
Stay safe!
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Miscellenious recommendations
Had a beer at X Zone-soi 16 where gynecologists meet daily-
Found a nice and cheap"Thai Germany" restaurant right of walking street betw, soi15 and 16 in a little soi (across galaxy /baccara gogo)marked BJ (club).late nite. Entrees around 100 across from a bunch of st-hotels.
Kamagra gel only 1800 bt/box now soi 15 sec. Road.
Nice firm oil massage from "wan" soi post office(13/2?) sulaporn massage orange sign close to sec Road, 200/hr with lots of attention to the right detail without getting HJ
Took out sexy girl kim from misty's for 1000 all night. Tried for 500 to no avail.
Great romp.
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Diving
Does anyone know if there's places to get a PADI diving certificate in Pattaya? I might be able to take a few days to get it finally, and if Pattaya just happens to be there in the evening, no harm done I guess. ;)
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My tummy is whiter than white inside
[QUOTE=Trevor2522]Just because something is cheap or unendorsed by the authorities doesn't mean it can't do excellent work. I have been taking Master Mineral Solution, actually an internal chlorine dioxide generator which breaks up pathogens, in complete safety for 2 years with good effects. Do your research, read the many testimonials and realise 'The powers that be' see MMS as a threat to their hegemony.[/QUOTE]If I was in a better mood I would write a long reasoned argument about why this product is ineffective at best, and dangerous at worst.
But I'm not, so I'll just say again: 'You are drinking bleach. Stop it.'
If you want one good reason why it's all crap, how about this:
Humans have 10x more bacterial cells than human cells. Yes, you did read that right. DNA sequencing would show that you are just a dirty contaminated pool of bacteria, and to an alien, you are just a walking mass of bacteria supported on a rather rubbery frame. Your bleach may undoubtedly be very effective at killing bacteria, but how does it kill the baddies and not the goodies?
But hey, I'll never convince you, because you have faith.
Dr Mouse.
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Does anyone know if there's places to get a PADI diving certificate in Pattaya? I might be able to take a few days to get it finally, and if Pattaya just happens to be there in the evening, no harm done I guess. ;)[/QUOTE]Google brings up about 15 PADI shops in Pattaya
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Oil Massage in Pattaya
I just returned from a trip to Pattaya. Had every day my oil massage and my dick was always massaged too. I am amazed about what these hands can do. I always tell them only to massage and not to release me by HJ. So they put more oil and just massage my dick for half an hour. These can be really better than FS.
Specially on Soi 11 I had wonderful sessions. I always asked the massage girl if she would take off her clothes also for massage. They always agreed after I insisted on that. The cheapest was a half hour massage from a topless woman for 100 Bath and it went up to a maximum of 900 Bath.
These girls really know how to touch your dick to give you a feeling of happiness!
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Does anyone know if there's places to get a PADI diving certificate in Pattaya? I might be able to take a few days to get it finally, and if Pattaya just happens to be there in the evening, no harm done I guess. ;)[/QUOTE]
Hmmm... Think you are on the wrong forum, dude. :)
Check out:
[url]http://www.scubaboard.com********thailand/[/url]
[url]http://www.scubaboard.com********trips-local-marketplace-thailand/345580-ow-aow-pattaya.html[/url]
(There are loads of dive shops in Patts so take your pic. I do diving myself but don't go when I am in Patts since scuba diving boats usually leave at 9 in the morning which is too early for me after a night of partying, plus the diving of Patts is supposed to be poor since the water has bad visibility. Waters are calm though, so guess that it can be a good place to learn.
Be careful, there are loads of unserious dive operators in Thailand. Horror stories abound of faulty equipment and diving guides that know nothing about safety or how to put the assemble the diving equipment. It can't be much fun to be 60 feet under water (which is how deep you usually go on your second open water dive before you are certified) and then have your airflow abruptly stop and do a real emergency ascent to the surface.
Try to find one that is run by an ex-pat, and one that is sober, if that can actually be found in Pattaya... However, most scuba diving instructors are, IMHO, often a bit crazy. Make sure you meet the person that will be teaching you also before you pay. It might not be the owner.
Sign up for private classes rather than a group class since then you can have your lessons at a time that you chose, and you can learn quickly at your own pace rather than having to wait and learn at the pace of the slowest member in the group.
Also, get the book before you go so you can do the theory learning at home before your holiday. It's about 20 hours of reading and you can have more fun in Patts than reading about how a regulator functions or how to establish bouyancy.
On [url]www.padi.com[/url] you can see which shops in Patts run diving courses and are "PADI" shops.)
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[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Google brings up about 15 PADI shops in Pattaya[/QUOTE]
Right, was kind of dumb of me to post that question here rather than just google it. Only thought of it as a eureka moment while perusing these posts. No actual thinking happened from the time I got the idea until I clicked Post Message. Only problem is it's damn expensive there to do Padi open water course in Pattaya. 14000 baht ($463!) compared to a little under 10,000 in Ko Tao.
OK carry on with your discussion of how drinking chlorine cures AIDS. ;)
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]
[url]http://www.scubaboard.com********thailand/[/url]
[url]http://www.scubaboard.com********trips-local-marketplace-thailand/345580-ow-aow-pattaya.html[/url]
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Good points -- that was going to be my first question for any possible operator: do you have any boats that go out in the [i]afternoon[/i]? And you're right, dive staff are sketchy enough almost anywhere, I'm really asking for trouble in Pattaya.
Your links didn't work -- not sure why -- looks like ISG blocked them by inserting ***'s where letters should be. I'll try to see if I can figure it out from what I can see here. Or PM me those -- tho ISG may block the URL there too. Maybe Jackson fears he'll lose web traffic to scuba diving forums.
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Yes...
Yes, I've never understood why Jackson is prohibiting links to the other sites. I respect his decison; this is his forum and it's a great forum, but it's actually decreasing traffic from this site and it also does sort of take away from providing additional info to Members, imo. Other sites I belong to don't block and show an increase in traffic because of it.
I'm not trying to stir up trouble here, but I just don't see a plausible reason why the blocking, etc. from where I sit. There must be a reason; I just don't see it.
[QUOTE=Wendella]Good points -- that was going to be my first question for any possible operator: do you have any boats that go out in the [i]afternoon[/i]? And you're right, dive staff are sketchy enough almost anywhere, I'm really asking for trouble in Pattaya.
Your links didn't work -- not sure why -- looks like ISG blocked them by inserting ***'s where letters should be. I'll try to see if I can figure it out from what I can see here. Or PM me those -- tho ISG may block the URL there too. Maybe Jackson fears he'll lose web traffic to scuba diving forums.[/QUOTE]
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Divers go down deeper...
[QUOTE=Wendella]...Only problem is it's damn expensive there to do Padi open water course in Pattaya. 14000 baht ($463!) compared to a little under 10,000 in Ko Tao. [/QUOTE]Sure, it might be cheaper to take the course on Koh Tao, but by the time you factor in the time to get there, the cost to stay there, and the lack of willing beautiful women to rub your tired muscles at night, Pattaya at 14000b for a course does not sound too bad.
[i]However...[/i]
While the first part of the course is fairly pedestrian -- if you are serious about learning how to dive and earning the certification -- I'd be more concerned about the quality of the instruction and eventual diving locations than the price.
I got my NAUI certification in the Cook Islands back in 1990. The official motto of the Cook Island Divers was:
"No Ocean too Rough, No Muff too Tough."
Priorities, mate, [i]priorities...[/i]
PS: Dive photos from around SE Asia...
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522]I'm not selling MMS and, in any case, each dose only costs pennies. There is no patent; that's why the medical mafia hates it.
Instead of making knee-jerk criticisms why not do your own research and actually try it? You might find that, in conjunction with eating most food raw, that your quality-of-life and health improves to better-enjoy the delights Thailand has to offer.[/QUOTE]Trevor2522,
I don't want to continue the topic particular on this thread but since it's already being discuss and attack I think it bares repeating that you not believe everything you read and I will add my two cents and more.
I like you read books like Natural cures not because I believe everything in them but I'm curious as to another point of view. Also like you I believe sometimes institutions hide things because they want to keep status quote in profits. But in this particular case do you really want to take a chance with your life? Going through these books natural cures for ailments like Cholestorol etc.... these are ailments that you can play around with and experiment and if they don't work there isn't much lost and you go back to modern medicine for treatment. But when it comes to STD and particularly Hiv/Aids there isn't any turning back! It's not like taking 2 tablespoon of Apple cider Vinager before bed to lower your blood sugar level?
If you had even a simple case of a Tract infection you would know that it can be nerve racking and scary? Can you imagine if you roll the dice and have been lucky so far with taking MMS, and believe this is the only reason you haven't come down with a STD or Aids. Personally it is because you just have been lucky or it's good genes? Whatever? but if you go bareback and come down with Hiv/Aids, what chapter are you going to turn to for the cure?
Right now it is World Hiv/Aids day or month? it has been reported just for countries like India,Thailand,Burma,Indonesia, in 2009 it was reported that there was 220,000 new cases in this region of the world alone with another 230,000 dying from this deadly which there is no cure! Don't take the chance that MMS, is going to help you? In my view it is interesting reading but going bareback and taking this narrow point of view is going to increase your risk. I suggest you come to Thailand and enjoy and not add to the number of infected people and practice safe sex and if taking MMS and thinking it is the reason it has protected you then you are mistaken!
Good luck, LBM
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[QUOTE=Wendella]Good points -- that was going to be my first question for any possible operator: do you have any boats that go out in the [i]afternoon[/i]? And you're right, dive staff are sketchy enough almost anywhere, I'm really asking for trouble in Pattaya.
Your links didn't work -- not sure why -- looks like ISG blocked them by inserting ***'s where letters should be. I'll try to see if I can figure it out from what I can see here. Or PM me those -- tho ISG may block the URL there too. Maybe Jackson fears he'll lose web traffic to scuba diving forums.[/QUOTE]Hi Wendela - won't work to PM them actually since isg automatically blocks the word forum in weblinks on both the main forum and on PMs. You can click around a bit to find the discussion forums on scubaboard.com, then just search the Thailand thread for Pattaya and you will get a bunch of information.
PS, liked your comment about the drinking bleach discussion... :)
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[QUOTE=Redfield10]Yes, I've never understood why Jackson is prohibiting links to the other sites. I respect his decison; this is his forum and it's a great forum, but it's actually decreasing traffic from this site and it also does sort of take away from providing additional info to Members, imo. Other sites I belong to don't block and show an increase in traffic because of it.
I'm not trying to stir up trouble here, but I just don't see a plausible reason why the blocking, etc. from where I sit. There must be a reason; I just don't see it.[/QUOTE][blue]=============================================
Greetings Redfield10,
You are confused.
I do not permit links to [u]my[/u] [u]competitor's[/u] [u]forums[/u]. As you may observe, my competitors do not permit links to the ISG.
Links to other websites are permitted.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
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Answering my own question:
[QUOTE=Lordberners]I'm very picky on the masseuse being young and very good looking though, so I'm wondering if anyone can recommend a particular place? I wouldn't mind if it was a bit higher cost than what I mentioned above.[/QUOTE]I was looking for very cute girls and just handjob service, but most places have maybe one or two cute ones and the rest not attractive, or in many cases no cute ones. I researched the forum and found out that 'Dream Teen Massage' has some recommendations and as many negative reviews. I notice that most guys who were disappointed were looking for more than just a handjob, though, so I tried the place.
The girls there were fairly cute but really not all that much better than girls at other massage places, nor were they extremely young. I'd been hoping that the 'teen' name meant they would literally all be 18 to maybe 21, but most looked more like 21-25.
The girl I chose from some photos was 'Anny', and she was reasonably attractive and about 23-25 I guess. She was friendly and nice, and gave one of the best handjobs I ever had, for the standard price of 400 for the hour massage and 500 for the handjob. This price was quoted by the desk downstairs and her in the room, with no upselling, and its only 100 more than similar places, I guess, so its not wildly out of line.
However I'm still looking for a place like this with better looking girls, if anyone can suggest.
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Pattaya today
Pattaya is still a good mongering destination. As I wrote before I had every day a oil massage, but always without happy ending in order to have power for the night (except for the first day, got a BBBJ with CIM for 900 Bht)
I went to a couple of gogos in the evenings but was not really impressed even with the recommended ones. Of course you can see a lot of naughty staff, but it didn't really turn me on.
On the first evening it was already after 1 am and I still didn't have a lady for the night. So went down to BR and found some girls praying at the temple. I assumed that they pray to find a sponsor for the night and waited. One was quite cute so I asked her if she wants to go with me. She agreed but mentioned she has to get her bag in the bar. Found out that she works at Amsterdam bar in Soi 6 which was already closed. We made two rounds before sleeping and another one in the morning with same help of a green tablet. Gave her 1000 Bht in the morning and she accepted without comment.
The second day I went to Red Point in Soi 6 and saw my girl I had 2 years ago. At that time she was quite new to the business and we had a wonderful time. She confessed me (and it was obious) that she had her first orgasms with a customer and was crying out of happiness. She then wrote me for more than half year e-mails and asked me to come back. Now after 2 years she had completely changed. She was still very beautiful and has a body to die for. But she wanted only go shorttime inhouse. Convincing didn't help. But I still wanted to have this body, so I gave in for ST. She explained the rules: 1 hour, 1 shot otherwise I would have to pay more. Once upstairs she did a very professional (skilled) performance in order to finish me as soon as possible. But I took my time and enjoyed first her mouth, then her pussy in many positions to come back to her mouth for a BBBJ with CIM, which she accepted till I was empty.
The next two nights I had beer bar girls from Soi 8. Both for long time and 1000 Bth per night.
All the girls agreed to shower together, performed BBBJ without request and requested a condom for boom boom. The BBBJ were medicore and not really deep, but didn't refuse to CIM. They were not really into it, even when I started quite slowly with a very tender massage all over their bodies and DATY before requesting any action from them. They became wet, but that was it. At least it was easy then to enter. All positions were performed. The pussy smelled well and were mostly not shaved. All girls didn't like pictures.
Some suggested a ladyboy for "good smoking" ;-)
Overall a very nice time but not the same as a couple years ago where it was really GFE.
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Threesome in Pattaya
I was wondering if I can manage to get two girls for a threesome. So I walked in the later afternoon along the BR. One decent looking lady was sitting alone, so I approached her and started to talk. When the topic came to "go loom" I mentioned that I like two lady. She said, that she has a similar looking friend who might join us and called her. According to her they did it before together. When we met the other lady she didn't really look similar, but still ok. So off we went. Prices were discussed (700Bht each incl. Photo). In the room we stripped down and went all the three together into the shower. The second girl wasn't really into picture taking and also always hided her tummy behind a towel.
They provided an excellent service, BBBJ from one mouth to the other FS from one pussy to the other without changing condom. They even did some play on each other on my request, but not too much. We spend about two hours in many different positions and combinations before I shot my load. Originally it was agreed that I could come in each of them but after 2 hours of pleasing and being pleased by two girls it was enough. Gave them 1500 to share and they were both happy and asked me to call them again for more.
I am back home now, but if you are interested PM me for their phone numbers.
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same more pics (same taken by the girls when I had action with the other one)
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[QUOTE=Sumart]I was wondering if I can manage to get two girls for a threesome.
They provided an excellent service, BBBJ from one mouth to the other FS from one pussy to the other without changing condom. They even did some play on each other on my request, but not too much.[/QUOTE]
Sumart, some excellent pictures, thanks for sharing them! :)
My experience is that girls in Patts seem to love threesomes, especially in gogos it is very common that I am sitting with one girl and then when I bar fine her she suggests that her friend joins. I guess they like it since firstly it is safer for them if they are two, and also it is a lot less work for each of them. Plus, obviously, I am a "hansum man". :)
One thing I actually really don't like about threesomes in LOS is that the girls are notoriously afraid of each others saliva. Often the best part of a threesome is laying back and getting my dick sucked by two eager mouths, but many many times they have insisted that when I switch mouth I either go wash my dick in the sink, or they sanitize it with a wet wipe, or use a towel to clean it, which takes so much away from the double header experience.
Switching condoms when switching girls I find a nuissance, but also a good check that the girls are sanitary. Once was in a threesome with two Thai girls and did one girl anally, then did the other girl anally and realised that I was still using the same condom.
I also found the promises of lesbian action proclaimed in the gogo to often be a bit exaggerated, most of the girls will just fondle each other a bit and maybe some very light tongue kissing and nipple licking, but all out lesbian is a bit difficult to find IMHO.
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Changing condoms
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Sumart, some excellent pictures, thanks for sharing them! :)
My experience is that girls in Patts seem to love threesomes, especially in gogos it is very common that I am sitting with one girl and then when I bar fine her she suggests that her friend joins. I guess they like it since firstly it is safer for them if they are two, and also it is a lot less work for each of them. Plus, obviously, I am a "hansum man". :)
One thing I actually really don't like about threesomes in LOS is that the girls are notoriously afraid of each others saliva. Often the best part of a threesome is laying back and getting my dick sucked by two eager mouths, but many many times they have insisted that when I switch mouth I either go wash my dick in the sink, or they sanitize it with a wet wipe, or use a towel to clean it, which takes so much away from the double header experience.
Switching condoms when switching girls I find a nuissance, but also a good check that the girls are sanitary. Once was in a threesome with two Thai girls and did one girl anally, then did the other girl anally and realised that I was still using the same condom.
I also found the promises of lesbian action proclaimed in the gogo to often be a bit exaggerated, most of the girls will just fondle each other a bit and maybe some very light tongue kissing and nipple licking, but all out lesbian is a bit difficult to find IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Changing condoms in threesomes is a pain, but I always do it because I don't think it's fair on the girls to open themselves up to increased STD / HIV risk.
You are right that real as opposed to simulated lesbian action is hard to come by. I was fortunate enough to hook up with a 21 year old maths teacher last year who had a naughty 18 year old half sister who was genuinely into it. Infact little sister loved to make big sister come by licking her - so much so that doing the licking was the only way that little sister came. Sadlythis year they have moved on, little sister having been sent back to Isaan by a German bu who sends her money monthly. According to her sister she spends most of this on seducing young girls back in Isaan. Both were cute with perfect bodies too and would come around for 1000b between them so i was certainly on to a good thing. Memories LOL
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Champagne Agogo
Not sure if this has already been mention on this thread. I spoke today on the phone with a gogo dancer from Champagne and the name is still the same, but the police or forcing the owner to shutdown at 2am, also there is no live sex shows.
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Fisrt time Pattaya visitor need help
Hello,
Need some help on where to stay and how to approach girls in Pattaya.
I am planning for 2 night stay in Pattaya by the end of this month.
Can some one recommend a good/safe hotel close to the action? And also how to approach the girls here? Do I have to take them to my hotel or rent another room to spend time with the girl? How much would it be?
And also do I need a visa to go to Pattaya, I am planning to take break journey and have american green card.
Your help will be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Drugged & Mugged by Cuties
Here’s a story that should have us all sitting up and taking notice:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/12/03/two-females-arrested-for-theft-of-10-million-baht-from-russian/[/url]
These girls are young, cute, and freelancing on Walking Street at a Beer Bar complex. I wouldn’t (until now) hesitate to take girls like them myself. The lesson is to never take girls to your own room for the first time encounter, but only after you know them.
Who knows how many of them are out there?
Its scary!
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Take Home Ladies...
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Here's a story that should have us all sitting up and taking notice:
[url]http://www.Pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/12/03/two-females-arrested-for-theft-of-10-million-baht-from-Russian/[/url]
These girls are young, cute, and freelancing on Walking Street at a Beer Bar complex. I wouldn't (until now) hesitate to take girls like them myself. The lesson is to never take girls to your own room for the first time encounter, but only after you know them.
Who knows how many of them are out there?
Its scary![/QUOTE]virtually all hotels and guesthouses I stay have got a safe. Why not put the ladies I'd in the safe until she leaves?
Just an idea if you feel not 99% sure about her.
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Champagne Go-Go on Soi LK Metro - Update
[quote]spoke with a go-go dancer from champagne and the name is still the same, but the police are forcing the owner to shutdown at 2:00 a.m. also there are no live sex shows.[/quote]the backstory here is the champagne club has had a little trouble of late with the authorities. but after dropping by several evenings in the past ten days i can confirm it is open for business and worth a visit.
the night shift lineup is excellent right now, with about 20 girls working. imho half a dozen are equal to the hottest girls you'd see in the walking street go-gos, and one night there was an absolute stunner wandering in and out. (she seemed to dance less than the others.) the rest of the girls are no slouches either. all were young and fit. if you're into ink, there is a bleached blonde spinner with a smoking little body who has quite a few tattoos and a high-energy style.
the current entertainment format alternates go-go dancing with shows. during the former the main stage has at six to ten girls dancing, plus a couple more on two side stages. some wear the standard go-go outfit (supershort pleated miniskirt worn low on the hips with tiny flimsy bikini top). others adopt a "coyote" look, with impossibly small, supertight boy shorts and a bikini top. but they're all on the program. while some girls will dance semi-topless during the go-go portion, most do not.
during the shows a smaller number of girls takes to the main stage. they dance naked, their bodies adorned with paint that glows under black light. the girls in the show are a subset of the girls who dance during the go-go sessions. i suppose the club believes these girls are better looking than the others. but to my eye that wasn't the case. during the show the girls just dance. there is no interaction with each other, or with the patrons.
if you are a fan of body paint i guess this could be entertaining. to me, it was no big deal. one thing that detracts from the body paint show is that a guy comes on stage at the start to finish painting one of the girls. at first i thought they were just running behind in their preparations. but it's apparently part of the show. perhaps the theory is that some customers find it erotic to see the paint being applied. to me, it just a distraction. when i'm doing the sip and stare thing at a strip club or go-go bar the last thing i want is any male interruption -- whether it be yammering djs exhorting me to tip well, or waiters in lieu of waitresses.
after the shows the painted girls retire to the shower to wash up. in the champagne club, however, there is a plate glass window that allows the patrons to watch this from their seats. it usually seemed like there were two or maybe three girls in the shower following each show. so it would appear they take turns providing the post-show sudsy seduction. i don't recall that there was much girl-on-girl interaction during the showers. but it was still worth a look. the girls are of course hot. and the lighting inside the shower is such that their skin looks very nice indeed as they soap and scrub.
even though i visited early in the week the club was full. granted, it's not a large venue. but it's off the beaten path. so the crowd suggest to me that pattaya punters favor the place. bottled beer was 120 baht and there was a commendable lack of hassle. the waitresses didn't pressure me to buy more drinks, and the girls were willing to let me sit undisturbed. nice!
it has been reported there are short time rooms upstairs at the champagne club and some patrons were offered the chance to take the dancers up for a spin. supposedly this irked the authorities and sparked the recent raid. not sure why that would be. the "choose lady, have drink, go upstairs for short time" business model is well-entrenched on soi 6.
in any event, i didn't observe any customers headed upstairs during my time in the club. as a matter of fact, i didn't observe any customers headed out the front door with girls either. granted, the beer and the view drastically reduced my powers of observation. but i think it's fair to say there was a fair amount of "just looking" going on the nights i visited.
to be sure, i was new in town and definitely not up to speed. but it seemed to me the club attracted groups of guys who were well familiar with the scene in pattaya. they seemed to fit the profile of the long term resident or guys on extended holiday. watching them share a drink and a laugh i got the impression the club was a nice place to start the evening with a little "tune up" while enjoying some spectacular scenery in a low key environment. turnover seemed to be brisk. that said, nobody ever did or said anything to me that suggested i was not welcome. indeed, even though i was very new in town i had a great time.
i didn't pull from this club, so i cannot comment on what short time hotels might be available in the vicinity. nor can i provide any data on the bar fine or the going rates for the girls.
finally, i never stayed until closing time. but i was in a bar very close by (the oasis club - worth a look too) when the clock struck 2:00 a.m. the lights came up on the second and it was clear that it would not be wise to tarry.
bunky
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Beach Road Freelancers Slip Roofie to Rooskie?
Three quick points:
First, I gotta throw the bullshit flag at the 10 million baht estimate for the valuables stolen. That's a whopping USD $333,333. True, there are some truly wealthy Russian oligarhs out there:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkMsSIjQXxo[/url]
But anybody who spends a third of a million dollars on vacation shopping is used to the best. He's going to be staying at a much nicer hotel. And his hookers are going to be drawn from a pool of talent that is invisible to the rest of us. I suspect the loss estimate is grossly inflated by the victim, the police or both.
Second, I loved this note in the news story: "Police revealed that the ID cards which the suspects had left at the hotel reception desk were actually genuine and after tracking their movements eventually arrested the two women at an apartment in Soi Ramkumhang 65, Bangkok." And let's not forget that hotels are crawling with security cameras. As any grizzled detective will tell you, the only ones they catch are the stupid and the slow.
Third, watching the video of the re-enactment at the hotel where the robbery took place the girls seemed almost jolly in their demeanor. What do you make of that?
Bunky
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[QUOTE=Daddy07]Here’s a story that should have us all sitting up and taking notice:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/12/03/two-females-arrested-for-theft-of-10-million-baht-from-russian/[/url]
These girls are young, cute, and freelancing on Walking Street at a Beer Bar complex. I wouldn’t (until now) hesitate to take girls like them myself. The lesson is to never take girls to your own room for the first time encounter, but only after you know them.
Who knows how many of them are out there?
Its scary![/QUOTE]there was a happy policeman in the "reconstruction":)
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[QUOTE=Santij]Hello,
Need some help on where to stay and how to approach girls in Pattaya.
I am planning for 2 night stay in Pattaya by the end of this month.
Can some one recommend a good/safe hotel close to the action? And also how to approach the girls here? Do I have to take them to my hotel or rent another room to spend time with the girl? How much would it be?
And also do I need a visa to go to Pattaya, I am planning to take break journey and have american green card.
Your help will be much appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
amerrican green card might be important in USA, but it is all down to your passport
usually visa and passports are needed to enter a country, not a town :)
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Beach Road
i came back to give pattaya another chance recently, and its still pretty depressing - numbers and talent are way down on beach road, and almost all the high-skilled high-service girls from the old days are gone, along with most young good-lookers. what's left are the aged ones and a fair number of middle-range non-drug user types. the story goes that the police are jailing fairly long term (2-3 months) any girl that tests positive for drugs - they can grab the girls anywhere and force them to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url].
so, naturally, most of what you see on the beach now is very chubby and ill-motivated with out drugs. its really not worth bothering, and the rest of the town is a rip-off - low quality for high prices, as always. this new form of crackdown seems perhaps more effective in the long run than the old days of blackshirts running up and down the beach at all hours.
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[QUOTE=GregLondon]Changing condoms in threesomes is a pain, but I always do it because I don't think it's fair on the girls to open themselves up to increased STD / HIV risk. [/QUOTE]
I don't think it's HIV risk. There would be little (I'm not saying non-existant...) risk of HIV. It's more like, to do with bacteriological diseases.
I have to confess that I have stopped visiting Eden in BKK for precisely that reason: the girls there won't engage in a 2X1 romp without stopping for 2 minutes each time to change condoms. To me, that's just too lame. There is the risk of disease, sure, but you can also get disease from kissing. Should the girls, then, demand that you wash your mouth in disinfectants before daring to kiss them??? (In Eden they do - which is the SECOND reason I don't go there...)
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Drug user girls
[quote=opebo]i came back to give pattaya another chance recently, and its still pretty depressing - numbers and talent are way down on beach road, and almost all the high-skilled high-service girls from the old days are gone, along with most young good-lookers. what's left are the aged ones and a fair number of middle-range non-drug user types. the story goes that the police are jailing fairly long term (2-3 months) any girl that tests positive for drugs - they can grab the girls anywhere and force them to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url].
so, naturally, most of what you see on the beach now is very chubby and ill-motivated with out drugs. its really not worth bothering, and the rest of the town is a rip-off - low quality for high prices, as always. this new form of crackdown seems perhaps more effective in the long run than the old days of blackshirts running up and down the beach at all hours.[/quote]
if i understand you correctly, you prefer drug user girls !!
can you explain why ?
bl
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[quote=opebo]i came back to give pattaya another chance recently, and its still pretty depressing - numbers and talent are way down on beach road, and almost all the high-skilled high-service girls from the old days are gone, along with most young good-lookers. what's left are the aged ones and a fair number of middle-range non-drug user types. the story goes that the police are jailing fairly long term (2-3 months) any girl that tests positive for drugs - they can grab the girls anywhere and force them to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url].
so, naturally, most of what you see on the beach now is very chubby and ill-motivated with out drugs. its really not worth bothering, and the rest of the town is a rip-off - low quality for high prices, as always. this new form of crackdown seems perhaps more effective in the long run than the old days of blackshirts running up and down the beach at all hours.[/quote]
im a rare user of beach road girls but only last week i did a wander down br about 10:30pm near soi 8 and there were definitley some very good looking girls preening themselves for a night on the town. hit and miss though as i've always thought. this night was a hit though as i got a very very pretty (and i'm fussy) 19 year old who was planning on going to ws later with some friends and wanted a st first to subsidise it. paid b800 (she asked for 1000 but got her to b600 then gave her a tip as she was ok for 2 pops).
as i say, br not really my thing, more for cheap charlies who like ugly skanks and are too tight to buy a ld or pay a bf but i was there anyway and saw a nice one. doubt it will happen again much. i'll leave them to the cheap charlies and have the nice beer bar and gogo girls instead. :-)
johnthescot
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[quote=bunky]the backstory here is the champagne club has had a little trouble of late with the authorities. but after dropping by several evenings in the past ten days i can confirm it is open for business and worth a visit.
the night shift lineup is excellent right now, with about 20 girls working. imho half a dozen are equal to the hottest girls you'd see in the walking street go-gos, and one night there was an absolute stunner wandering in and out. (she seemed to dance less than the others.) the rest of the girls are no slouches either. all were young and fit. if you're into ink, there is a bleached blonde spinner with a smoking little body who has quite a few tattoos and a high-energy style.
the current entertainment format alternates go-go dancing with shows. during the former the main stage has at six to ten girls dancing, plus a couple more on two side stages. some wear the standard go-go outfit (supershort pleated miniskirt worn low on the hips with tiny flimsy bikini top). others adopt a "coyote" look, with impossibly small, supertight boy shorts and a bikini top. but they're all on the program. while some girls will dance semi-topless during the go-go portion, most do not.
during the shows a smaller number of girls takes to the main stage. they dance naked, their bodies adorned with paint that glows under black light. the girls in the show are a subset of the girls who dance during the go-go sessions. i suppose the club believes these girls are better looking than the others. but to my eye that wasn't the case. during the show the girls just dance. there is no interaction with each other, or with the patrons.
if you are a fan of body paint i guess this could be entertaining. to me, it was no big deal. one thing that detracts from the body paint show is that a guy comes on stage at the start to finish painting one of the girls. at first i thought they were just running behind in their preparations. but it's apparently part of the show. perhaps the theory is that some customers find it erotic to see the paint being applied. to me, it just a distraction. when i'm doing the sip and stare thing at a strip club or go-go bar the last thing i want is any male interruption -- whether it be yammering djs exhorting me to tip well, or waiters in lieu of waitresses.
after the shows the painted girls retire to the shower to wash up. in the champagne club, however, there is a plate glass window that allows the patrons to watch this from their seats. it usually seemed like there were two or maybe three girls in the shower following each show. so it would appear they take turns providing the post-show sudsy seduction. i don't recall that there was much girl-on-girl interaction during the showers. but it was still worth a look. the girls are of course hot. and the lighting inside the shower is such that their skin looks very nice indeed as they soap and scrub.
even though i visited early in the week the club was full. granted, it's not a large venue. but it's off the beaten path. so the crowd suggest to me that pattaya punters favor the place. bottled beer was 120 baht and there was a commendable lack of hassle. the waitresses didn't pressure me to buy more drinks, and the girls were willing to let me sit undisturbed. nice!
it has been reported there are short time rooms upstairs at the champagne club and some patrons were offered the chance to take the dancers up for a spin. supposedly this irked the authorities and sparked the recent raid. not sure why that would be. the "choose lady, have drink, go upstairs for short time" business model is well-entrenched on soi 6.
in any event, i didn't observe any customers headed upstairs during my time in the club. as a matter of fact, i didn't observe any customers headed out the front door with girls either. granted, the beer and the view drastically reduced my powers of observation. but i think it's fair to say there was a fair amount of "just looking" going on the nights i visited.
to be sure, i was new in town and definitely not up to speed. but it seemed to me the club attracted groups of guys who were well familiar with the scene in pattaya. they seemed to fit the profile of the long term resident or guys on extended holiday. watching them share a drink and a laugh i got the impression the club was a nice place to start the evening with a little "tune up" while enjoying some spectacular scenery in a low key environment. turnover seemed to be brisk. that said, nobody ever did or said anything to me that suggested i was not welcome. indeed, even though i was very new in town i had a great time.
i didn't pull from this club, so i cannot comment on what short time hotels might be available in the vicinity. nor can i provide any data on the bar fine or the going rates for the girls.
finally, i never stayed until closing time. but i was in a bar very close by (the oasis club - worth a look too) when the clock struck 2:00 a.m. the lights came up on the second and it was clear that it would not be wise to tarry.
bunky[/quote]
i'm definitely a regular of champagne and i reckon, while not every girl is, there are some real stunners here, and the stunners are as good as some
of the 'jap' bars in ws. good naked shows too. some of the coyotes are lovely too. good atmosphere too. i wouldn't travel here if not in the soi diana area but worth a look if you are.
and i'd agree that oasis on a good night has some lovely girls too.
johnthescot
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot]
As i say, BR not really my thing, more for cheap charlies who like ugly skanks and are too tight to buy a LD or pay a BF but I was there anyway and saw a nice one. Doubt it will happen again much. I'll leave them to the Cheap Charlies and have the nice beer bar and gogo girls instead. :-)
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]
I've seen guys buy lady drinks and pay bf for uglier girls(skanks) in gogos then on beach road. If one is into 'skanks', better to get them at a third of the cost then in a gogo.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I've seen guys buy lady drinks and pay bf for uglier girls(skanks) in gogos then on beach road. If one is into 'skanks', better to get them at a third of the cost then in a gogo.[/QUOTE]
Good point. I never understand why some guys pick the girls they do. Each to their own I suppose.
Johnthescot
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Some more pics from my threesome providers
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[QUOTE=Redfield10]Yes, I've never understood why Jackson is prohibiting links to the other sites. I respect his decison; this is his forum and it's a great forum, but it's actually decreasing traffic from this site and it also does sort of take away from providing additional info to Members, imo. Other sites I belong to don't block and show an increase in traffic because of it.
I'm not trying to stir up trouble here, but I just don't see a plausible reason why the blocking, etc. from where I sit. There must be a reason; I just don't see it.[/QUOTE]
I didn't think that scuba diving forums would be a competitor to ISG either, but then I found this little movie clip:
[url]http://xhamster.com/movies/251710/underwater_sex.html[/url]
Maybe it will be worthwhile to do some scuba diving when I go to Patts next... :)
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Scaring the Fish
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]
[url]http://xhamster.com/movies/251710/underwater_sex.html[/url]
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Bet that scared the crap out out of the fish and maybe provided a little snack.
Looks like fun, though.
Slim
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Slim and Cute
[QUOTE=Sumart]
Some more pics from my threesome providers
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Looks like a good time was had by all.
The slim one (IMG_1326.jpg) looks pretty cute.
Thanks,
Slim
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Mongering related question about scuba diving...
[QUOTE=Nvslim]Bet that scared the crap out out of the fish and maybe provided a little snack.
Looks like fun, though.
Slim[/QUOTE]
Actually, guys, one mongering related question about scuba diving, and I figured that if it is doable then it would be in Patts.
Those of you that scuba dive will know that diving usually involves a long boat ride to the dive site, then a wait between dive 1 and dive 2 while you decompress, then a long boat ride home.
That time can be, well, put to productive use if you have taken a girl along with you on the boat I figure. Does anyone know of a scuba dive operator that is cool with this? Or even cooler, one that has a female diving assistant that comes along on the boat ride and as a special service blows the diver(s) during decompression time... :)
PM me if you don't want to post the info.
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Limited Alcohol Sales on Dec 5
Dec 5 is the King's birthday.
Dec 4 was normal.
On Dec 5, it seems all the go-go bars were closed. Some convenience stores did not sell beer; some did. Restaurants were selling alcohol. Most open air bars were closed; Some of the open air bars were open with girls and alcohol, but the lights and music were turned off.
Other Bangkok post said this closing was due to election. Anyway, go-go bars were closed which sucks!
I hope everything goes back to normal on Dec 6.
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Current fun bars
Going to be in Pattaya in a few days. What bars currently have the fun'st girls and the best looking ones? I know that things change on almost a weekly bassest. But what have you guys been seeing these last few weeks?
Thanks RG
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Sounds Good On Paper, But....
[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]Actually, guys, one mongering related question about scuba diving, and I figured that if it is doable then it would be in Patts.
Those of you that scuba dive will know that diving usually involves a long boat ride to the dive site, then a wait between dive 1 and dive 2 while you decompress, then a long boat ride home.
That time can be, well, put to productive use if you have taken a girl along with you on the boat I figure. Does anyone know of a scuba dive operator that is cool with this? Or even cooler, one that has a female diving assistant that comes along on the boat ride and as a special service blows the diver(s) during decompression time... :).[/QUOTE]1. I don't know anyone who would want to fuck between dives. Usually divers want to relax a bit and eat something.
2. All the diving instructors I have seen in Pattaya are male.
3. If there was a female instructor, as much as it costs for an instructors certification I don't think she would be the type to put random dicks into her mouth during a dive.
4. Would you want to take a random girl with you and pay the 13,000 or so baht and spend 3 days to have her certified an open water diver?
5. Say if you did happen to do #4 then the next day or whenever for the actual act you would have to rent equipment. You would not have to actually take a boat. You could do a shore dive. However, the water around Pattaya is not at all clear so you would need transportation to another part of the coast or maybe do it from Koh Larn island.
6. Have you ever tried to fuck in the ocean? I have successfully done it a couple of times with only swim trunks on. It is a job in itself trying to get and keep a hard dick in the ocean then to have to stay coupled while waves are rolling. I would not dare try it wearing equipment on the ocean floor. (Besides most people wear wet suits.)
7. I won't even go into underwater photography or cinematography.
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Devil's Den Outcall (Part 1)
I was in Pattaya earlier this year and remiss in posting my report. This was my first time in Thailand and first time mongering. I had less than a month to plan the trip so and was new to the forum so I took the easy (but more expensive) way by booking a couple of girls from Devil's Den.
I used their internet form to request Cake for an overnight (3, 500 BHT) and Rose the following 24hrs (7, 000 BHT). I wanted Cake for a "break-in" experience following a long trip and Rose had some great reviews. Unfortunately Rose was unavailable (she's gone from their site now) and I chose Bang instead based on her profile.
I also asked them to quote me have a driver and Cake pick me up at the airport given I was arriving at midnight, Cake was on the clock starting at 10pm, a beautiful welcome would be great, we could spend some time together during the long drive, and I wouldn't have to wait for her to arrive after checking in. I believe they quoted me 1, 800 BHT for the driver to pick Cake up in Pattaya, get me at BKK, and take us back to Pattaya (compared to the standard one-way 1, 200 BHT taxi fare). Seemed like a good deal to me for just an extra $20.
Night 1
Cake was very reserved in the car and I wasn't sure if that was because the driver was there. The next day, Bang told me that Cake was very nervous because this was her first airport pickup. So I'm not sure how the drive might work with someone else but we just cuddled and did some light touching.
We checked into the Tim Boutique together without incident (I set up my reservation for two people) and had a couple of rounds before crashing. We had one more round in the morning before she had to leave. Overall, she is attractive (as all DD girls) but definitely more nurturing and reserved, which is how she was described on their site reviews. In hindsight, perhaps I should have gotten someone a little more aggressive but I thought I would want her personality my first night.
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Devil's Den Outcall (Part 2)
Night 2
After Cake left, Bang joined me about 11am for a 24-hour session (7, 000 BHT). We did a couple of rounds in the afternoon and then decided to have her show me the town. We found a place to eat and we met up with a friend of hers, who was also with a client. After eating, we hit a few beer bars on Soi 7 & 8 where she claimed she used to work and asked me occasionally to buy some drinks for a friend of hers.
The four of us then took a Songthaew to Walking Street for some time at a couple of GoGo bars and just walking around. I was ready to head back so we grabbed another Songthaew back to our hotel for a couple of more rounds including a visit to Greece.
I crashed and woke up around 5am for another round – she wasn't too happy about this round as she had only fallen asleep a little earlier as we were on the noisy bar side of the Tim hotel. It hadn't bothered me but then I can fall asleep with noise.
I managed a final round before we got some food at the great breakfast buffet and then she left. Maybe expensive by Thai standards but I certainly felt like I got my money's worth and had a great time before heading to Bangkok for some sightseeing and work.
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Devils Den Outcall
[QUOTE=Bret M69]Night 1 & 2
Maybe expensive by Thai standards but I certainly felt like I got my money's worth and had a great time before heading to Bangkok for some sightseeing and work.[/QUOTE]
That's what counts. Great report Bret.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1100604]1. I don't know anyone who would want to fuck between dives. Usually divers want to relax a bit and eat something.
2. All the diving instructors I have seen in Pattaya are male.
3. If there was a female instructor, as much as it costs for an instructors certification I don't think she would be the type to put random dicks into her mouth during a dive.
4. Would you want to take a random girl with you and pay the 13, 000 or so baht and spend 3 days to have her certified an open water diver?
5. Say if you did happen to do #4 then the next day or whenever for the actual act you would have to rent equipment. You would not have to actually take a boat. You could do a shore dive. However, the water around Pattaya is not at all clear so you would need transportation to another part of the coast or maybe do it from Koh Larn island.
6. Have you ever tried to fuck in the ocean? I have successfully done it a couple of times with only swim trunks on. It is a job in itself trying to get and keep a hard dick in the ocean then to have to stay coupled while waves are rolling. I would not dare try it wearing equipment on the ocean floor. (Besides most people wear wet suits.)
7. I won't even go into underwater photography or cinematography. [/QUOTE]Dude, you are taking my post too literally. What I am asking for is if anyone knows a dive shop in Patts that caters mainly to mongerers and is cool with you taking a girl with you to play with on the boat ride out, decompression, and boat ride back.
I have done loads of diving, and I agree that when you first come out of the water what you want to do is sit down and do nothing, then eat and drink something, but personally I find that decompression time gets a bit boring after I have had my lunch and then you have BS conversations to try to pass the time until it is time to get back in the water again. That time could be put to better use I think, but if someone wants to sit around and listen to boring stories about how some fat diver almost got trapped in a wreck while diving of Gallipoli instead of enjoying a BJ,"up to you mister".
I have fucked in the ocean, but not with my head under water with or without scuba gear. The sex is not all that good, but it is sort of funny trying to hide it from the people that are swimming around you. They sort of know, but not really, maybe you are just grinding on each other. Underwater sex needs to be no condom though, so not in my opinion an activity to do in Patts but something you do with your GF from back home. (Please no responses about transmission probabilities from vaginal sex or how a daily milkshake of bleach will protect you, if that is what you want to do,"up to you mister".)
Don't have any desire for a 40 feet underwater coral reef fuck session with a bar girl, just asking if anyone knows about a cool dive shop.
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Rio veteran goes to Pattaya
I have been to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil many times over the last 6 years and I thought that it was heaven on earth. I loved the food, the termas, taking girls home, etc and when I first went there it was fairly cheap ($40 / termas session, $60 take home). Over the years though Rio has had massive inflation and the dollar has collapsed against their currency. For example 60 minutes at 4x4 went from R150 to R240 and the dollar went from 3. 15 to 1. 65 so in US$ prices have basically tripled from $47 to $145. I have always thought about going to Asia (either LOS or PI) but had heard some bad things from guys that had been there. Girls too shy, girls too small, no variety in ethnic types, flight too long, discrimination against farangs, etc. I also had spent a lot of time and money teaching myself Portuguese and did not know if I wanted to make the effort to learn another language (or languages since the providers in Asia tend to come from the provinces with their own dialects different from Thai or Tagalog).
Finally this year I bit the bullet and went out of my comfort zone and booked a trip to Thailand. I had a hard time at first because I was solo and the rules here seem to be different than Brazil but by the end of my week I was loving this place and already trying to figure out when I can come back.
I took girls from Walking Street beer bars, Walking Street go gos, and Soi 13/2 go gos. I also made a trip to Devil's Den. Other than DD I exclusively went LT. The beer bars are an interesting phenomenom to me. I like the fact that basically everyone is available. I had often wanted to bang waitresses, counter girls, etc in the Rio termas but that was not allowed. Taking girls home from termas was also not allowed although often done in secret. It was refreshing to go to the Thai system that is basically designed for takeout.
Like I said I had some issues in the first few days. I would go to a go go and try to talk to a girl and few flat out refused saying "I have period!" I estimate the 40% of the girls I spoke to those first few days had their period. Obviously some of them were lying but I could not figure out what the problem was. In all my trips to Mexico and Brazil I never had any sort of rejection like that at all. As it happened in order to find a taker I had to bar-hop to 3 or 4 bars before I found a mutually compatible girl. I also found it frustrating that when I took a girl they did not want to go straight back to get down to business but they wanted to go to the disco or another bar first to have a few drinks. Pricing was reasonable though. The go go bar fine was either 500 or 600 and the girls went LT for 1500-2000. I had thought that the girl fee was totally up to she and the client but some bars actually had a piece of paper with the girl fee written on it. 2000 for ST and 3000 for LT, for example but I found that I could just say to the girl or mamasan,"No. That is too much," and get significantly less.
I also got some frustration with pictures. I would ask girls if it was ok for me to take some. Some allowed naked shots with face, one allowed an underwear shot, some clothed. That was the girls that I took home. In the bars, however, one go go and one beer bar girl refused to talk to me any longer once I brought up the subject. Note I assured them no internet (sorry fellas) and even offered that they could leave their face out or remained clothed but the deal was off at this point.
I pulled my first beer bar girl a few nights into the trip. It was not from one of the screaming beer bars that seem designed for bar fines but a restaurant where they did not explicitly advertise that they wanted barfines. She wanted 1500 but I managed to get her out for 1200+300. We went to my hotel and she was very shy. She came out of the shower and into bed with a towel on. When I asked her to "smoke" (BJ) she flat out refused saying she did not do that. It took me at least a half hour to get her to kiss me. However once we got going it was very nice. We got off a session and then fell asleep. She cuddled very tight and did not mind me seeing her naked now even when we pulled off the blanket when it got too hot. We woke up in the morning and had round 2. I even got her to do a little female superior in that round. We laid around cuddling for a while and then did round 3. I was feeling very good. When she finally left at 4PM she asked for 1300. I happily gave it to her and considered giving her her initial offer of 1500 but she was very happy with the 1300.
To straighten myself out a bit I went to Devil's Den one day. That place was pretty good although pricey for Pattaya at 3600 for 2 girls and 90 minutes. This is actually significantly less than the price for 1 girl for 40 minutes in a Rio termas. It was the closest thing that I could find like a Rio termas although it was missing the element of being able to mingle with and feel up the girls for an hour or so before a session. I took 2 girls for a session and they were excellent. No shyness at all, both did anal, lesbian show, CIM, load swapping, etc. DD has a nice set-up. Although it is not an every day place for me I will definitely go back as maybe a once or twice per trip luxury.
My trip improved after the DD visit. When I went to the beer bars and go gos the girls seemed to start liking me and I was able to get some good sessions to finish the week. I paid between 1200 and 1500 + 300 barfine for beer bar girls and between 1500 and 2000 + 500-600 barfine for go gos with the closer to Walking Street ones getting more. It was some pretty good GFE and they usually stayed until quite late in the afternoon. I also starting picking them up later so there was less ability to bar-hop.
Overall by the end of my trip I was in a good groove and enjoying the place.
My thoughts about why it is better than Rio:
1) Price. Hotels a third the price of Rio apartments. Girls half the price or less.
2) LT option. Rio has no real LT option. Termas and agencies are basically ST. To get LT you have to get freelancers. I don't like freelancers. I like to have some accountability and some health checks.
3) Safety. See #2. Also, the streets were full of people 24 hours per day and walking distances less. I never felt in danger. Even the stray dogs were polite. Rio, however, sometimes resembles a war zone. Muggings and carjackings are common. Petty thievery, especially on the beach, is rampant. There have been several publicized hostage situations in Copacana hotels, a restaurant, and on buses in the last few years.
4) Go gos. These were great. Although I missed the groping ability of termas the go gos were a close second. Buy a girl a drink and you can grope her all you want. I had some that refused to leave me alone after one drink. I had to send forcefully send them away. Note I came into this bar with another girl so they knew they weren't going to be barfined. These were just having fun, giving me lap dances, letting me feel them up, etc for 20 minutes or more all for a 110 baht lady drink.
5) Beer bars. A nice cheap alternative to go gos. The girls were only slightly less attractive than go gos but much shyer. Sometimes shy is nice.
6) Along with #5 it is nice that almost everyone is available.
7) Numbers. Are there hundreds of go gos? Thousands of beer bars? I don't know. It seemed that way. And all in walking distance to each other. Rio has about 8 main termas. 2-3 main freelance bars, and dozens of low level termas that I have never been to because I like quality in my vacation. Plus in Rio these venues are spread out and require transportation to reach.
8) Niceness. The Thai girls were truly nice and aimed to please in every way only limited by their shyness. A 20 baht tip usually brought a big smile and a wai. As of late the Rio girls have gotten spoiled a bit.
9) No shirtless Brazilians. That is the biggest annoyance in the biggest termas in Rio. 4x4. It is full of loud, drunk Brazilians walking around with their robes down. I do not go to a termas to be rubbed up on by shirtless men. There seems to be more space in the go gos too and people where regular clothes.
10) Very few beggars. Copacabana is full of beggars.
11) Although I do find the double pricing annoying no one short-changed me that I am aware of. That happens all the time in Rio. In fact the last Brazilian I dealt with in the USA short-changed me $1 as well. And this was after we had a long conversation entirely in Portuguese.
Things worse than Rio:
1) No termas. This is only a minor criticism because most of the elements of a termas are available. Go gos replace the groping. Devil's Den replaces the sexy incall. ST and Soi 6 (which I never did so I can only speculate) replace the aspect of a quick shot.
2) Territoriality. Most of the bars are small. When I hang around a small bar the girls grow on me. Once I pulled a girl from a bar her friends would often refuse to go with me. The opposite usually happens in Rio. Girls will recommend their friends, sisters, cousins, etc. This is also a minor issue as well since there are so many bars and it was not universal. Sometimes girls did recommend their friends or friends wanted to have me barfine them. This problem was the biggest in the restaurant where I got the very shy girl. Unfortunately the next day a VERY attractive friend of hers showed up and flat out refused me out of respect for her friend.
3)"Period". Early on I got a lot of refusals from girls on their "period". This was not an issue later in the trip though. I think the girls were already spoken for or had other issues or maybe even had their period. I was able to mitigate this later on by not just picking girls by their appearance but by how they reacted to me and by talking to the mamasans. In Rio, however, you can do quite well picking girls by their appearance because mostly they are trying to maximize their clientelle and duds are rare.
4) Shyness. Sometimes shyness can be cute but I did miss the open sexuality of the Brasileiras. Almost every one of them is a gamer from the start. They dance sexy, dress sexy, fuck sexy, and genuinely seem to enjoy their jobs. Their word for bikini is the same as dental floss. I took a sexy Thai girl to the beach one day and she wore a suit that had a skirt on it like she was a fat old woman.
5) Performance. Continuing #4, in Rio anal and CIM are commonplace. They also give as good as they get. Rio girls are masters at combining GFE with PSE. The only girls I met that would entertain anal and CIM were from Devil's Den. Performance-wise too the DD girls were close to the Brazilian standard.
5) Smallness. I had a few girls complaining that I was too large and was hurting them. I even let one girl go early (with a discount of course) because she was grimacing the entire time we were screwing. She was about 4 foot 10 and 90 pounds. After her though I got a tube of KY and no one complained after that so hopefully I solved the problem.
6) Stickiness. A few times I would call a girl over and buy her a drink but then on closer inspection I decided not to take her but another girl in the bar. Sometimes it was very tough to get the first girl to go away. Some demanded another drink or tip. Rio girls usually take this rejection better and go away without a fuss.
7) Bar hopping. Since the bars are small I often had to hit a few bars to find a mutually compatible girl. I assume that it is frowned upon to enter a bar and not order a drink so I always did. I do not like to drink much when I am mongering but since draft beer is cheaper than water I drank the beer. Hitting several bars this can add up monetarily and physically.
8) Double pricing. I know locals often get a discount in many places but Thailand is the first place I have been that actually codifies it. I went with a girl to Lucifer's one night and they actually have 2 menus. Local's beer cost 90. Farang's 170. 170 is outrageous for a beer in the US let alone Thailand. I won't be going back there or at least I won't drink. A girl alerted me to this and she wanted to get her own beer but since they saw her with me they charged her the 170. Then they wanted a tip on top of that too.
9) Racial variety. In Rio you can get white, black, Indian in every combination and even the occasional half-Japanese. In Pattaya it was either Asian or overpriced Uzbek.
10) Ladyboys. Mostly they kept away but occasionally they were annoying.
11) Indian tailors. No. I do not want to buy a suit. Stop asking me.
Bottom line, will I go back to Pattaya? Hell yea.
Will I go back to Rio? Only on someone else's dime or if the Real collapses which is unlikely before the 2014 Olympics and 2016 World Cup.
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Very Interesting report, And really professional analysis.
But I have one question. The smile. In Pattaya everybody smile to you (your wallet of course not your face) all the time, So what about Rio? And I am talking generally not just bars and clubs.
[QUOTE=Edward M; 1101166]My thoughts about why it is better than Rio:
Things worse than Rio:
Bottom line, will I go back to Pattaya? Hell yea.
Will I go back to Rio? Only on someone else's dime or if the Real collapses which is unlikely before the 2014 Olympics and 2016 World Cup. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Edward M; 1101166]....5) Smallness. I had a few girls complaining that I was too large and was hurting them. I even let one girl go early (with a discount of course) because she was grimacing the entire time we were screwing. She was about 4 foot 10 and 90 pounds. After her though I got a tube of KY and no one complained after that so hopefully I solved the problem. [/QUOTE]Latest sex research has found that using lubricants is the way to go, if you want to make it pleasant for the lady. And using plenty of lube is good for any lady, regardless of her size.
[url]http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2010-12/iu-see120310.php[/url]
I found from my own experience that using condoms without plenty of lube can be dangerous in terms of condom tearing and possible injury for the lady. Dry rubber is even worse than dry skin, when it comes to friction.
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[QUOTE=Edward M;1101166]I have been to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil many times over the last 6 years and I thought that it was heaven on earth. I have always thought about going to Asia (either LOS or PI) but had heard some bad things from guys that had been there. Finally this year I bit the bullet and went out of my comfort zone and booked a trip to Thailand. I had a hard time at first because I was solo and the rules here seem to be different than Brazil but by the end of my week I was loving this place and already trying to figure out when I can come back.[/QUOTE]I try to tell the old Rio crew to venture out to Thailand but like you said most are afraid to leave the comfort zone. They also complain about the flight being too long. But I tell them that once they get there and see what is in store they will never again care about the flight.
[QUOTE=Edward M]I pulled my first beer bar girl a few nights into the trip. She wanted 1500 but I managed to get her out for 1200+300. We went to my hotel and she was very shy. She came out of the shower and into bed with a towel on. When I asked her to "smoke" (BJ) she flat out refused saying she did not do that. It took me at least a half hour to get her to kiss me. [/QUOTE]The only time I have ever went with a bar girl I had that exact same experience. She actually came to the hotel after work so I would not have to pay a bar fine. I offered her the usual 1000 baht that I give FL for LT. She had the nerve to ask me if I wanted her to come again when she got off work. I know you do not do FL, but I have never had those types of problems with them.
[QUOTE=Edward M]7) Numbers. Are there hundreds of go gos? Thousands of beer bars? I don't know. It seemed that way. And all in walking distance to each other. Rio has about 8 main termas. 2-3 main freelance bars, and dozens of low level termas that I have never been to because I like quality in my vacation. Plus in Rio these venues are spread out and require transportation to reach.[/QUOTE]If you look in the Rio thread you will see people are always looking for a replacement for the FL disco Help that was closed down by the government in January. Well if they would just go to Pattaya they would see there are about 10 Helps and the girls there for less than 1/3 of the minimum a Help girl would accept. Also in Pattaya you can rent a scooter for US$5/day. It beats taking the bus and the train around all over Rio or even worse the amount some guys spend on taxis there.
[QUOTE=Edward M]8) Niceness. The Thai girls were truly nice and aimed to please in every way only limited by their shyness. A 20 baht tip usually brought a big smile and a wai. As of late the Rio girls have gotten spoiled a bit.[/QUOTE]Of course. These days the Rio girls want to be the boss and call the shots when you are the one paying them. A Thai girl will prepare your food for you when it arrives AND feed it to you before she even looks at hers.
[QUOTE=Edward M1)] No termas. This is only a minor criticism because most of the elements of a termas are available. Go gos replace the groping. Devil's Den replaces the sexy incall. ST and Soi 6 (which I never did so I can only speculate) replace the aspect of a quick shot. [/QUOTE]You didn't mention the soapies so I assume you did not try them. Although I stay away from them it is the closest thing you will get at 1/3 of the price. But as everything else groping is not included because they are actually behind a glass wall for you to pick them out.
[QUOTE=Edward M]4) Shyness. Sometimes shyness can be cute but I did miss the open sexuality of the Brasileiras. Almost every one of them is a gamer from the start. They dance sexy, dress sexy, fuck sexy, and genuinely seem to enjoy their jobs. Their word for bikini is the same as dental floss. I took a sexy Thai girl to the beach one day and she wore a suit that had a skirt on it like she was a fat old woman.[/QUOTE]Whenever I go to the beach with a Thai girl they usually wear shorts and a t-shirt. They rarely leave from under the umbrella because 1) they think it is very hot and 2) they do not want to get darker.
[QUOTE=Edward M]5) Performance. Continuing #4, in Rio anal and CIM are commonplace. They also give as good as they get. Rio girls are masters at combining GFE with PSE. The only girls I met that would entertain anal and CIM were from Devil's Den. Performance-wise too the DD girls were close to the Brazilian standard.[/QUOTE]It is rather rare to get anal from a Thai girl. I would direct you to PI but I think most of the girls who do it there are FL.
[QUOTE=Edward M]5) Smallness. I had a few girls complaining that I was too large and was hurting them. I even let one girl go early (with a discount of course) because she was grimacing the entire time we were screwing. She was about 4 foot 10 and 90 pounds. After her though I got a tube of KY and no one complained after that so hopefully I solved the problem.[/QUOTE]I used to run into this same problem. I have even gotten a couple of freebies because the girl did not want to stay and endure it. I have never had this problem from a disco FL though.
[QUOTE=Edward M]8) Double pricing. I know locals often get a discount in many places but Thailand is the first place I have been that actually codifies it. I went with a girl to Lucifer's one night and they actually have 2 menus. Local's beer cost 90. Farang's 170. 170 is outrageous for a beer in the US let alone Thailand. I won't be going back there or at least I won't drink. A girl alerted me to this and she wanted to get her own beer but since they saw her with me they charged her the 170. Then they wanted a tip on top of that too.[/QUOTE]Whenever I am in Lucifer or Mixx and I want to buy a friend a drink I always give them the money to buy it as well. It is really outrageous seeing that the same beer will cost you 30 baht across the street at 7-11. They don't pester you as much to buy drinks as they did before. If I do decide to drink though then I will just buy one and nurse it until I decide who I am going to take home with me.
[QUOTE=Edward M]9) Racial variety. In Rio you can get white, black, Indian in every combination and even the occasional half-Japanese. In Pattaya it was either Asian or overpriced Uzbek.[/QUOTE]IMHO the racial variety is as sparse as it is in Rio. There are Thais from Chinese decent, Cambodian Thais, darker Thais from Issan. There are big differences to me.
[QUOTE=Edward M]Bottom line, will I go back to Pattaya? Hell yea. Will I go back to Rio? Only on someone else's dime or if the Real collapses which is unlikely before the 2014 Olympics and 2016 World Cup.[/QUOTE]I used to go to Rio every month and highly recommended it. Now I tell people not to waste their time or money if they are going for mongering. The good old days are over there and greener pastures are in Thailand.
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Bangkok or Pattaya
On January I will be one week in Thailand. I know already Bangkok but have never been in Pattaya before.
From the reports it seems to be the better place for mongering. Cheaper girls and more pretty. Is it correct? What would you recommend?
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[QUOTE=Hallodri Love; 1101344]On January I will be one week in Thailand. I know already Bangkok but have never been in Pattaya before.
From the reports it seems to be the better place for mongering. Cheaper girls and more pretty. Is it correct? What would you recommend? [/QUOTE]Yep, Pattaya hands down. I wouldn't say the girls are prettier there but the action is more concentrated and convenient for mongering.
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[QUOTE=Shansawy; 1101262]Very Interesting report, And really professional analysis.
But I have one question. The smile. In Pattaya everybody smile to you (your wallet of course not your face) all the time, So what about Rio? And I am talking generally not just bars and clubs. [/QUOTE]Good question. I don't remember. Probably not as much as Thailand but the girls always smile big for photos.
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I want candy.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1101349]Yep, Pattaya hands down. I wouldn't say the girls are prettier there but the action is more concentrated and convenient for mongering.[/QUOTE]Yep, Daddy knows the score better than most.
Pattaya is also relatively cheaper than Bangkok, right on the ocean, and a lot easier going than Bangkok. There's even some pretty white eye candy here and there.
Read the forum, ask a few specific questions, and prepare for a sweet time!
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[quote=edward m; 1101166]i have been to rio de janeiro, brazil many times over the last 6 years and i thought that it was heaven on earth. i loved the food, the termas, taking girls home, etc and when i first went there it was fairly cheap ($40 / termas session, $60 take home). over the years though rio has had massive inflation and the dollar has collapsed against their currency. for example 60 minutes at 4x4 went from r150 to r240 and the dollar went from 3. 15 to 1. 65 so in us$ prices have basically tripled from $47 to $145. i have always thought about going to asia (either los or pi) but had heard some bad things from guys that had been there. girls too shy, girls too small, no variety in ethnic types, flight too long, discrimination against farangs, etc. i also had spent a lot of time and money teaching myself portuguese and did not know if i wanted to make the effort to learn another language (or languages since the providers in asia tend to come from the provinces with their own dialects different from thai or tagalog).
finally this year i bit the bullet and went out of my comfort zone and booked a trip to thailand. i had a hard time at first because i was solo and the rules here seem to be different than brazil but by the end of my week i was loving this place and already trying to figure out when i can come back.
i took girls from walking street beer bars, walking street go gos, and soi 13/2 go gos. i also made a trip to devil's den. other than dd i exclusively went lt. the beer bars are an interesting phenomenom to me. i like the fact that basically everyone is available. i had often wanted to bang waitresses, counter girls, etc in the rio termas but that was not allowed. taking girls home from termas was also not allowed although often done in secret. it was refreshing to go to the thai system that is basically designed for takeout.
like i said i had some issues in the first few days. i would go to a go go and try to talk to a girl and few flat out refused saying "i have period!" i estimate the 40% of the girls i spoke to those first few days had their period. obviously some of them were lying but i could not figure out what the problem was. in all my trips to mexico and brazil i never had any sort of rejection like that at all. as it happened in order to find a taker i had to bar-hop to 3 or 4 bars before i found a mutually compatible girl. i also found it frustrating that when i took a girl they did not want to go straight back to get down to business but they wanted to go to the disco or another bar first to have a few drinks. pricing was reasonable though. the go go bar fine was either 500 or 600 and the girls went lt for 1500-2000. i had thought that the girl fee was totally up to she and the client but some bars actually had a piece of paper with the girl fee written on it. 2000 for st and 3000 for lt, for example but i found that i could just say to the girl or mamasan,"no. that is too much," and get significantly less.
i also got some frustration with pictures. i would ask girls if it was ok for me to take some. some allowed naked shots with face, one allowed an underwear shot, some clothed. that was the girls that i took home. in the bars, however, one go go and one beer bar girl refused to talk to me any longer once i brought up the subject. note i assured them no internet (sorry fellas) and even offered that they could leave their face out or remained clothed but the deal was off at this point.
i pulled my first beer bar girl a few nights into the trip. it was not from one of the screaming beer bars that seem designed for bar fines but a restaurant where they did not explicitly advertise that they wanted barfines. she wanted 1500 but i managed to get her out for 1200+300. we went to my hotel and she was very shy. she came out of the shower and into bed with a towel on. when i asked her to "smoke" (bj) she flat out refused saying she did not do that. it took me at least a half hour to get her to kiss me. however once we got going it was very nice. we got off a session and then fell asleep. she cuddled very tight and did not mind me seeing her naked now even when we pulled off the blanket when it got too hot. we woke up in the morning and had round 2. i even got her to do a little female superior in that round. we laid around cuddling for a while and then did round 3. i was feeling very good. when she finally left at 4pm she asked for 1300. i happily gave it to her and considered giving her her initial offer of 1500 but she was very happy with the 1300.
to straighten myself out a bit i went to devil's den one day. that place was pretty good although pricey for pattaya at 3600 for 2 girls and 90 minutes. this is actually significantly less than the price for 1 girl for 40 minutes in a rio termas. it was the closest thing that i could find like a rio termas although it was missing the element of being able to mingle with and feel up the girls for an hour or so before a session. i took 2 girls for a session and they were excellent. no shyness at all, both did anal, lesbian show, cim, load swapping, etc. dd has a nice set-up. although it is not an every day place for me i will definitely go back as maybe a once or twice per trip luxury.
my trip improved after the dd visit. when i went to the beer bars and go gos the girls seemed to start liking me and i was able to get some good sessions to finish the week. i paid between 1200 and 1500 + 300 barfine for beer bar girls and between 1500 and 2000 + 500-600 barfine for go gos with the closer to walking street ones getting more. it was some pretty good gfe and they usually stayed until quite late in the afternoon. i also starting picking them up later so there was less ability to bar-hop.
overall by the end of my trip i was in a good groove and enjoying the place.
my thoughts about why it is better than rio:
1) price. hotels a third the price of rio apartments. girls half the price or less.
2) lt option. rio has no real lt option. termas and agencies are basically st. to get lt you have to get freelancers. i don't like freelancers. i like to have some accountability and some health checks.
3) safety. see #2. also, the streets were full of people 24 hours per day and walking distances less. i never felt in danger. even the stray dogs were polite. rio, however, sometimes resembles a war zone. muggings and carjackings are common. petty thievery, especially on the beach, is rampant. there have been several publicized hostage situations in copacana hotels, a restaurant, and on buses in the last few years.
4) go gos. these were great. although i missed the groping ability of termas the go gos were a close second. buy a girl a drink and you can grope her all you want. i had some that refused to leave me alone after one drink. i had to send forcefully send them away. note i came into this bar with another girl so they knew they weren't going to be barfined. these were just having fun, giving me lap dances, letting me feel them up, etc for 20 minutes or more all for a 110 baht lady drink.
5) beer bars. a nice cheap alternative to go gos. the girls were only slightly less attractive than go gos but much shyer. sometimes shy is nice.
6) along with #5 it is nice that almost everyone is available.
7) numbers. are there hundreds of go gos? thousands of beer bars? i don't know. it seemed that way. and all in walking distance to each other. rio has about 8 main termas. 2-3 main freelance bars, and dozens of low level termas that i have never been to because i like quality in my vacation. plus in rio these venues are spread out and require transportation to reach.
8) niceness. the thai girls were truly nice and aimed to please in every way only limited by their shyness. a 20 baht tip usually brought a big smile and a wai. as of late the rio girls have gotten spoiled a bit.
9) no shirtless brazilians. that is the biggest annoyance in the biggest termas in rio. 4x4. it is full of loud, drunk brazilians walking around with their robes down. i do not go to a termas to be rubbed up on by shirtless men. there seems to be more space in the go gos too and people where regular clothes.
10) very few beggars. copacabana is full of beggars.
11) although i do find the double pricing annoying no one short-changed me that i am aware of. that happens all the time in rio. in fact the last brazilian i dealt with in the usa short-changed me $1 as well. and this was after we had a long conversation entirely in portuguese.
things worse than rio:
1) no termas. this is only a minor criticism because most of the elements of a termas are available. go gos replace the groping. devil's den replaces the sexy incall. st and soi 6 (which i never did so i can only speculate) replace the aspect of a quick shot.
2) territoriality. most of the bars are small. when i hang around a small bar the girls grow on me. once i pulled a girl from a bar her friends would often refuse to go with me. the opposite usually happens in rio. girls will recommend their friends, sisters, cousins, etc. this is also a minor issue as well since there are so many bars and it was not universal. sometimes girls did recommend their friends or friends wanted to have me barfine them. this problem was the biggest in the restaurant where i got the very shy girl. unfortunately the next day a very attractive friend of hers showed up and flat out refused me out of respect for her friend.
3)"period". early on i got a lot of refusals from girls on their "period". this was not an issue later in the trip though. i think the girls were already spoken for or had other issues or maybe even had their period. i was able to mitigate this later on by not just picking girls by their appearance but by how they reacted to me and by talking to the mamasans. in rio, however, you can do quite well picking girls by their appearance because mostly they are trying to maximize their clientelle and duds are rare.
4) shyness. sometimes shyness can be cute but i did miss the open sexuality of the brasileiras. almost every one of them is a gamer from the start. they dance sexy, dress sexy, fuck sexy, and genuinely seem to enjoy their jobs. their word for bikini is the same as dental floss. i took a sexy thai girl to the beach one day and she wore a suit that had a skirt on it like she was a fat old woman.
5) performance. continuing #4, in rio anal and cim are commonplace. they also give as good as they get. rio girls are masters at combining gfe with pse. the only girls i met that would entertain anal and cim were from devil's den. performance-wise too the dd girls were close to the brazilian standard.
5) smallness. i had a few girls complaining that i was too large and was hurting them. i even let one girl go early (with a discount of course) because she was grimacing the entire time we were screwing. she was about 4 foot 10 and 90 pounds. after her though i got a tube of ky and no one complained after that so hopefully i solved the problem.
6) stickiness. a few times i would call a girl over and buy her a drink but then on closer inspection i decided not to take her but another girl in the bar. sometimes it was very tough to get the first girl to go away. some demanded another drink or tip. rio girls usually take this rejection better and go away without a fuss.
7) bar hopping. since the bars are small i often had to hit a few bars to find a mutually compatible girl. i assume that it is frowned upon to enter a bar and not order a drink so i always did. i do not like to drink much when i am mongering but since draft beer is cheaper than water i drank the beer. hitting several bars this can add up monetarily and physically.
8) double pricing. i know locals often get a discount in many places but thailand is the first place i have been that actually codifies it. i went with a girl to lucifer's one night and they actually have 2 menus. local's beer cost 90. farang's 170. 170 is outrageous for a beer in the us let alone thailand. i won't be going back there or at least i won't drink. a girl alerted me to this and she wanted to get her own beer but since they saw her with me they charged her the 170. then they wanted a tip on top of that too.
9) racial variety. in rio you can get white, black, indian in every combination and even the occasional half-japanese. in pattaya it was either asian or overpriced uzbek.
10) ladyboys. mostly they kept away but occasionally they were annoying.
11) indian tailors. no. i do not want to buy a suit. stop asking me.
bottom line, will i go back to pattaya? hell yea.
will i go back to rio? only on someone else's dime or if the real collapses which is unlikely before the 2014 olympics and 2016 world cup. [/quote]very good report.
i am a decade plus long fan of rio and the wonderful brasilieras, but pricing has gotten out of control with the strong real and local inflation. if money was unlimited i would still take the rio termas over any other place in the world. they are just amazing places to meet young, attractive and sexually skilled ladies.
about two years ago i went to pattaya for a few days as i was passing by thailand on the way to australia and have been back a few times since. your experiences are very very similar to mine. gogos & bars are very much hit and miss for finding a great lady. my pet peevee in the gogos are that the ladies are too often very unreliable with regards to services offered and time spend. most if not all will try to change the deal once you get back to your hotel.
as you mention devils den is the only place that comes anywhere near the brazilian standards we all love and crave. for my upcoming trip to pattaya i have decided just to stick to dd for all my lady needs. the only thing they miss is the pre session interaction you get in the termas. few things in this world can beat having a few dozen scantily clad young ladies competing for your attention.
while in pattaya i do miss the ethnic diversity of brazil, the churrascos, the sexually demanding ladies etc, but the pattaya ladies are starting to get a hold of me too.
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It's the safety, stupid
[QUOTE=Junior; 1101443]Very good report.
"I am a decade plus long fan of Rio and the wonderful Brasilieras, but pricing has gotten out of control with the strong real and local inflation. If money was unlimited I would still take the Rio termas over any other place in the world. They are just amazing places to meet young, attractive and sexually skilled ladies."
Basically Rio is a top destination but for me the most important reasons not to return is not money but safety. I took a stunning mulatta out of Help disco, in the appartment she started to argue about money. Throw her out but then she hammered against the door with her killer high heels from the out side, I was holding against from the inside so that not all the door with its frame would loosen, her heels perforated the door multiple times before she left. That was in the middle of the night, a guard arrived with a big colt but she had left already. But she was certainly on coke and turned very aggressive. In Thailand, crime is almost absent and thats why I prefer it to any other destination even if I would love to enjoy again exceptional ethno sex with terrific providers in Rio or other destinations in South America.
LP
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[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1101569]
In Thailand, crime is almost absent and thats why I prefer it to any other destination even if I would love to enjoy again exceptional ethno sex with terrific providers in Rio or other destinations in South America.
LP[/QUOTE]No! Crime is not "almost absent" in Thailand, perhaps a different level or type of crime exist here as opposed to Rio but crime is 'present and accounted for' in Thailand. Setting aside the countless victims of love who come here and end up killing themselves and or their lovers over their broken hearts, there's an extended line of hapless victims stretching from the airport to BKK and other cities who can tell you their war stories and or show you their wounds. Then there are others who will never tell because they were not fortunate enough to survive their encounters or are in the BKK Hilton. You've probably not seen much crime in Thailand because like any other destination, if you use common sense and stay out of local politics in Thailand, you can be safe as you would anywhere else even with the criminals at work.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1101574]No! Crime is not "almost absent" in Thailand, perhaps a different level or type of crime exist here as opposed to Rio but crime is 'present and accounted for' in Thailand. Setting aside the countless victims of love who come here and end up killing themselves and or their lovers over their broken hearts, there's an extended line of hapless victims stretching from the airport to BKK and other cities who can tell you their war stories and or show you their wounds. Then there are others who will never tell because they were not fortunate enough to survive their encounters or are in the BKK Hilton. You've probably not seen much crime in Thailand because like any other destination, if you use common sense and stay out of local politics in Thailand, you can be safe as you would anywhere else even with the criminals at work.
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[/QUOTE]Of cause I can't disagree with you, thanks for your specifications. My main point was the violent crimes, in that sense Thailand is pretty safe. At least on the surface and on the main spots.
LP
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[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1101569]
[QUOTE=Junior; 1101443]Very good report.
"I am a decade plus long fan of Rio and the wonderful Brasilieras, but pricing has gotten out of control with the strong real and local inflation. If money was unlimited I would still take the Rio termas over any other place in the world. They are just amazing places to meet young, attractive and sexually skilled ladies."
Basically Rio is a top destination but for me the most important reasons not to return is not money but safety. I took a stunning mulatta out of Help disco, in the appartment she started to argue about money. Throw her out but then she hammered against the door with her killer high heels from the out side, I was holding against from the inside so that not all the door with its frame would loosen, her heels perforated the door multiple times before she left. That was in the middle of the night, a guard arrived with a big colt but she had left already. But she was certainly on coke and turned very aggressive. In Thailand, crime is almost absent and thats why I prefer it to any other destination even if I would love to enjoy again exceptional ethno sex with terrific providers in Rio or other destinations in South America.
LP[/QUOTE]That is the main reason I avoid FLers wherever I go. I do not mind paying a bar fine or termas fee in order to have some accountability. That and for the health checks. Even if they are spotty and easily faked they are still better than the nothing you get with a FLer. In Rio 90% of the girls I took home were girls I knew well from the termas and occasionally a friend of theirs. In the rare occasions I pulled a stranger from Help or Balcony I always felt better if I knew they worked in a termas.
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Pattaya Go-Go Bar Comments
Comments from last week. Note that things change. Also, the best girls might have already been barfined.
I thought the best looking girls were at Super Baby and Super Girl Go-Go bars. A few 8s (in my personal scale; that's the best you get in Pattaya). But they're disappointing. I have never barfined anyone from those 2 bars in the past several years. I asked several, and all of them do not do CIM or lesbian. Example: I thought number 44 at Super Girl go-go is very cute. She said she is 20 and she has been there for 2 years. She seem cold (or was it the Thai shyness?). She said she doesn't do CIM. But then she wouldn't even let me touch her breast. Geez, most girls will at least let us touch their breast. Skinny and with small breast, but has a very cute face.
Previously Happy go go was one of the top bars, but I was there 2 times, and the girls were just marginal. I think it went downhill.
Entertainment is not just good, but fantastic. Love the nude dancing; jacuzzi shows. Of course you have to tip or buy them a drink to fondle them (majority will alow you to do it).
Silver Star at Soi 7 or on walking street IMO is the most "funniest". It's raunchy and the girls on the jacuzzi show seems to be having fun. If you want to lick their pussy (OK) or ass (disgusting, but to each his own) go to silver star on soi 7. Don't put your bottle on the jacuzzi if you don't want that girl to stick it up her pussy. LOL!
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Agree
I very much agree with your take on Super Baby. Never been into Super Girl. I use to 'date' one of the Super Baby girls and all her friends where so stand offish. I had befriended her when she first came to Pattaya when she started working at dump of a beer bar on Soi 13-1. I knew she would not last long there for she was very well endowed and after a few months moved over to Super Baby. A sponsor has her now.
As for Silver Star on Soi 7. It is my regular haunt. Not the best lookers but a fun place.
[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1101680]Comments from last week. Note that things change. Also, the best girls might have already been barfined.
I thought the best looking girls were at Super Baby and Super Girl Go-Go bars. A few 8s (in my personal scale; that's the best you get in Pattaya). But they're disappointing. I have never barfined anyone from those 2 bars in the past several years. I asked several, and all of them do not do CIM or lesbian. Example: I thought number 44 at Super Girl go-go is very cute. She said she is 20 and she has been there for 2 years. She seem cold (or was it the Thai shyness?). She said she doesn't do CIM. But then she wouldn't even let me touch her breast. Geez, most girls will at least let us touch their breast. Skinny and with small breast, but has a very cute face.
Previously Happy go go was one of the top bars, but I was there 2 times, and the girls were just marginal. I think it went downhill.
Entertainment is not just good, but fantastic. Love the nude dancing; jacuzzi shows. Of course you have to tip or buy them a drink to fondle them (majority will alow you to do it).
Silver Star at Soi 7 or on walking street IMO is the most "funniest". It's raunchy and the girls on the jacuzzi show seems to be having fun. If you want to lick their pussy (OK) or ass (disgusting, but to each his own) go to silver star on soi 7. Don't put your bottle on the jacuzzi if you don't want that girl to stick it up her pussy. LOL! [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Priamos;1097291]I wouldn't know. Perhaps it's just poor maintenance, in that case? The fact is, neither the rooms, nor the pool, nor the breakfast restaurant, looked particularly appealing when I was there. I assumed that this was because the hotel, whilst well maintained, was a bit dated. But perhaps it's the other way round? Perhaps the hotel is relatively new, but sloppily maintained? In that case, the tropical heat and humidity quickly take their toll.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I correct myself: my negative throughs about maintenance was about LK Metropole. Not LK Renaissance. I'll be staying Renaissance for the first time next week. I'll keep you posted.
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Pattaya Legit Thai Massage
hey gents. it's been awhile. you youngsters do so well with your reports that i only now need to "chip in" when there is something un-usual to report. something not generally discussed here. something completely and utterly. well. normal. something devoid of. dare i say it? yup. sex!
i have often thought that this forum could use a section devoted to old men. we could talk about all sorts of things not easy to locate by doing a search of our forum. things like food. sleeping. the rising cost of mush and oatmeal.
in this case i'd like to talk about a really good thai massage i had last week off pattaya south road. no sex just good straight up old fashion bone crushing and muscle ripping as only the thai can do. now it is true that one can get a few "extra's" at about half the traditional thai massage joints if you just ask and pay a nice tip but in this case, at this particular shop you wouldn't want to do this. on account of the old broad is about 70 or so. but i got to say guys that this old gal can still make you wimper! even cry, it feels so good. i ain't jokin'.
just so we are clear (sometimes with one track mind perv's one must repeat themselves) i am talking about a legitimate thai massage. all you guys should at least try one, and this is the place becuase she is really talanted and cheap and easy to find. but bear in mind it's just one-two old lady s so you should be prepared to wait your turn if she already has a walk in client. but again it is worth the wait. as an alternative i have included her phone number. please don't delete this just becuase i have included a number. look at my prior posts and you will easily see i am not a spammer. i am just bringing to the attention of members a really good deal on an excellent massage. also when you see this gal you'll know i couldn't possibly be involved with her in that way. hopefully this post will remain for others who love thia massage to try out. i personally get a massage nearly every day so i have been to a hundred or more massage shops over the years and this gal really excells. she even fixed a cronic back ache which only one other has been able to do before.
ok, so the price is 120 baht for 1 full hour. thats $4 folks. most massage ladys are given a tip as well if they do a decent job. usually in the range of 40-80 baht per hour.
location: soi 24 off of pattaya south road. go about 50 meters up the soi and you will see the small shop on the right. next to a small laundry shop. this place is directly west of (beach side) of the famous soi bowkua market. also on the same soi that goes into the parking lot of condo central condo's. it's easy to find, really.
going down beach road continue to the point where walking street starts. go left. this is the only way you can go in the evenings when walking street is closed to car traffic. you are now one a road called "pattaya thai" or as it is commonly known "pattaya south". continue straight ahead through the next traffic light and alittle further you come to a big thai temple what on the left side. go just past this temple to the next small soi (soi 24) and turn left. walk 50-60 feet and you are there. there is always a motor bike taxi at this small soi. also the cucumber restuarant.
tele number is 087-783-1899. the lady speeks very good english as well.
enjoy. and remember not to zip your pants up on your tool when you leave. hehehahahahe.
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Pattaya disease. Retarded Ejaculation
One of the perennial hazards of the Pattaya Visit, whether it be a three-day jaunt from Bangkok or other parts of Thailand, or the two-week sex-fest coming from the Bad Place, is the dreaded Pattaya Disease. Retarded (or Delayed) Ejaculation.
I for one almost never experience this problem in the upcountry, having sex perhaps 3 times a week, but in Pattaya, having sex 2-3 times every day, it does happen sometimes. You know the feeling. You resolve 'tonight I'll just go for a stroll, have a bite to eat, some internet, and save it for tomorrow'. But then some cute girl tempts you, and you think, damn, in a few days I'll be back where there just aren't all these choices, and so you go for a short-time, but at the end of 45 minutes or an hour of intensive boom-booming, you have to give up unrelieved.
I suppose its in the nature of our condition. Living in places where life is dull and visiting the Good Place only rarely. Feast or Famine tests the limits of our physiology. Does anyone here have stories or advice regarding the predicament?
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Fucked out
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1101807]One of the perennial hazards of the Pattaya Visit, whether it be a three-day jaunt from Bangkok or other parts of Thailand, or the two-week sex-fest coming from the Bad Place, is the dreaded Pattaya Disease. Retarded (or Delayed) Ejaculation.
I for one almost never experience this problem in the upcountry, having sex perhaps 3 times a week, but in Pattaya, having sex 2-3 times every day, it does happen sometimes. You know the feeling. You resolve 'tonight I'll just go for a stroll, have a bite to eat, some internet, and save it for tomorrow'. But then some cute girl tempts you, and you think, damn, in a few days I'll be back where there just aren't all these choices, and so you go for a short-time, but at the end of 45 minutes or an hour of intensive boom-booming, you have to give up unrelieved.
I suppose its in the nature of our condition. Living in places where life is dull and visiting the Good Place only rarely. Feast or Famine tests the limits of our physiology. Does anyone here have stories or advice regarding the predicament? [/QUOTE]I call it fucked out you only produce so much cum and the older you get to longer it takes to fill back up. What I do is get the rest of my body taken care of with a massage let JR rest a bit
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Pattaya Bar Update, Central City, Soi LK Metro & Soi Diana
[QUOTE]Going to be in Pattaya in a few days. What bars currently have the funnest girls and the best looking ones?[/QUOTE]I'll let others weigh in on the Walking Street scene.
In central Pattaya I was favorably impressed by the Champagne Club on Soi LK Metro about two weeks ago. The Oasis club, which is just around the corner, was good too. If you prefer the ambiance of a beer bar, there is a pretty nice one on the south side of Soi Diana, just east of Second Road. It was always crowded with lots of girls and everybody seemed to be having fun.
Use the forum search function to find my review of the Champagne Club.
Bunky
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[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1101680]Comments from last week. Note that things change. Also, the best girls might have already been barfined.
I thought the best looking girls were at Super Baby and Super Girl Go-Go bars.
Previously Happy go go was one of the top bars, but I was there 2 times, and the girls were just marginal. I think it went downhill.
Silver Star at Soi 7 or on walking street IMO is the most "funniest". It's raunchy and the girls on the jacuzzi show seems to be having fun. If you want to lick their pussy (OK) or ass (disgusting, but to each his own) go to silver star on soi 7. Don't put your bottle on the jacuzzi if you don't want that girl to stick it up her pussy. LOL! [/QUOTE]Babydolls is about the same. Soi 14 off walking street. Live shows, dick shaped banana, etc. Bottomless on the stage, too. Byblos has a show, too on tanon pratumnak, up stairs. They sit on your face for 20b TIP AT BEAVERS
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[QUOTE=Edward M;1101166]I have been to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil many times over the last 6 years and I thought that it was heaven on earth. I loved the food, the termas, taking girls home, etc and when I first went there it was fairly cheap ($40 / termas session, $60 take home). Over the years though Rio has had massive inflation and the dollar has collapsed against their currency. For example 60 minutes at 4x4 went from R150 to R240 and the dollar went from 3. 15 to 1. 65 so in US$ prices have basically tripled from $47 to $145. [/QUOTE]Before adding any comment to your very detailled report I want to say this thing you wrote really tore me apart!
As a matter of fact, I am planning now my second journey to Pattaya on January 2011, which is going to be much the follow-up to same-same last year one.
But it my mind it was going to be second and last as I got a little fed-up with thai girls.
As you realized Pattaya is very good for beginners in the sex-tourism biz because monger is helped by a well-organized system, but on the other hand thai girls are not very cute and sometimes not even hot.
And, you know, I was starting having fantasies about flying to Brazil next year.
I am not a high-roller myself and I move to the so-called third world in order to have chaper holiday than in Russia, Czech Republic or even Hungary (where I could get my favourite babes) , being these destinations much closer to my home country, but too much expensive too now.
So, it really hurts me to understand that prices are raising all around and the party is over in Brazil too, or it is limited access only for whealthy ones.
Now, my question is: have you been in other parts of Brazil or are you informed about the business in Salvador o Fortaleza, for example? Is it going to be any cheaper? By the way, I could get plane tickets to Fortaleza for affordable prices, maybe even better than Rio.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Edward M; 1101594][QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1101569]That is the main reason I avoid FLers wherever I go. I do not mind paying a bar fine or termas fee in order to have some accountability. That and for the health checks. Even if they are spotty and easily faked they are still better than the nothing you get with a FLer.[/QUOTE]Mmm. What makes you think that girls in go-gos take regular health checks?
The more and the harder sex, the more danger.
On the other hand a free-lancer may undergo a lighter sex activity, being a student or a non-professional just raising some extra money, and care more for her own health. In between are thousand of bar-girls that I assume take no particular medical control as well, so all in all there is an average risk to take with each of them.
I wish go-go girls are safer, but I don't think so.
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[QUOTE=Opebo;1101807]... so you go for a short-time, but at the end of 45 minutes or an hour of intensive boom-booming, you have to give up unrelieved... Feast or Famine tests the limits of our physiology. Does anyone here have stories or advice regarding the predicament?[/QUOTE]Well, at least you got a stiffy. That's half of it.
Us older guys just need a lot more of the right kind of stimulaton after the first pop.
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[QUOTE=Opebo; 1101807]One of the perennial hazards of the Pattaya Visit, whether it be a three-day jaunt from Bangkok or other parts of Thailand, or the two-week sex-fest coming from the Bad Place, is the dreaded Pattaya Disease. Retarded (or Delayed) Ejaculation.
I for one almost never experience this problem in the upcountry, having sex perhaps 3 times a week, but in Pattaya, having sex 2-3 times every day, it does happen sometimes. You know the feeling. You resolve 'tonight I'll just go for a stroll, have a bite to eat, some internet, and save it for tomorrow'. But then some cute girl tempts you, and you think, damn, in a few days I'll be back where there just aren't all these choices, and so you go for a short-time, but at the end of 45 minutes or an hour of intensive boom-booming, you have to give up unrelieved.
I suppose its in the nature of our condition. Living in places where life is dull and visiting the Good Place only rarely. Feast or Famine tests the limits of our physiology. Does anyone here have stories or advice regarding the predicament? [/QUOTE]I think this effects all of us after a few days of non-stop fucking. I just get desensitized and especially after a few drinks it will be really hard for me to cum.
I usually try to do a lot of fucking in the day time because of this and to spread the fun out as much as possible. If I can't cum then I will try to jerk of on the girl's face, but if this isn't doing it after a few minutes I will just give up since it desensitizes me more if I try for too long.
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[QUOTE=Opebo; 1101807]Retarded (or Delayed) Ejaculation.
I suppose its in the nature of our condition. Living in places where life is dull and visiting the Good Place only rarely. Feast or Famine tests the limits of our physiology. Does anyone here have stories or advice regarding the predicament? [/QUOTE]You bored, in need of a change of fuck venue. Air Asia now flies direct Bangkok-Surabaya at pittance return, perfect for Opebo. Dolly awaits. Look forward to reading a superb fuck report with your writing skills. OK Scout?
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Sun and Fun.
I have experienced your situation.
I have found that letting my dick / balls stay exposed in the hot sun for 15. 20 minutes will your ejaculation problems.
No joke- put some sunblock on your dick first.
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Munching
[QUOTE=Dinghy;1101826]Babydolls is about the same. Soi 14 off walking street. Live shows, dick shaped banana, etc. Bottomless on the stage, too. Byblos has a show, too on tanon pratumnak, up stairs. They sit on your face for 20b TIP AT BEAVERS[/QUOTE]Spent three nights last week in Patts. Crazy place,
TOO much sex on offer, if that is possible, tripping over WGs on the beach road. On the point of muncing, at Cassynova, a top-flight Walking Street gogo, you can eat to your heart desire at no upfront cost, that is if you wish to be part of the show. I was invited (took a pass after another punter's prolongued tongue-lashing of a comely lass. It was more about not wanting to follow him than her). It is polite to tip, though, I suppose.
Will follow up with some observations of glorious, girl-filled days. Isaan girls are really something.
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[QUOTE=Adinga; 1101900]Sun and Fun.
I have experienced your situation.
I have found that letting my dick / balls stay exposed in the hot sun for 15. 20 minutes will your ejaculation problems.
No joke- put some sunblock on your dick first. [/QUOTE]Can seems funny but not, sun fix vitamins right?
Otherwise refill with absolutely normal stuff:
Good sleep. 3 meals a day, cut down smoke if you do smoke, fruit juice, foot massage.
You also can regulary cim with a Billion Bar girl, the feeling of the kitten feeding on your cock.
As her life depends on will make your hormons produce more. Thats man's program to provide food LOL.
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[QUOTE=Edward M; 1101166]8) Double pricing. I know locals often get a discount in many places but Thailand is the first place I have been that actually codifies it. I went with a girl to Lucifer's one night and they actually have 2 menus. Local's beer cost 90. Farang's 170. 170 is outrageous for a beer in the US let alone Thailand. I won't be going back there or at least I won't drink. A girl alerted me to this and she wanted to get her own beer but since they saw her with me they charged her the 170. Then they wanted a tip on top of that too.
[/QUOTE]What other places do double pricing like this besides Lucifer's and Mixx?
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[QUOTE=Trevor2522;1097428]A glass of draft is normally the cheapest entry ticket to the go-gos but I get gassed-out pretty quick. Just wondered what other punters order to keep bloat down without buying high-end drinks? I'm not big on beer, spirits or even coke and would rather just pay-by-time, or nurse my drink, if that's an option.[/QUOTE]If you're thirsty and don't want to get drunk why not calculate the cost over a night. For example if you went to 5 gogos and ordered 5 cokes then it might cost you 300 baht more per night. If you want to save that money then you can always buy a draft beer but not finish it. (that's tough sometimes)
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[QUOTE=The Scout;1102001]If you're thirsty and don't want to get drunk why not calculate the cost over a night. For example if you went to 5 gogos and ordered 5 cokes then it might cost you 300 baht more per night. If you want to save that money then you can always buy a draft beer but not finish it. (that's tough sometimes)[/QUOTE]A Bottled Water always last 3-4 times longer setting at the bar. Hummmmmmm wonder why that is?
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[QUOTE=Adinga; 1101900]Sun and Fun.
I have experienced your situation.
I have found that letting my dick / balls stay exposed in the hot sun for 15. 20 minutes will your ejaculation problems.
No joke- put some sunblock on your dick first. [/QUOTE]I know that Patts is an "anything goes" destination, but where do you expose it for that much time? (I guess it could work on the hotel room's balcony if I hang a few towells, but often don't spring for a room with a balcony.)
Having my dick in girl's mouths BB, and in their pussys and asses (with a rain coat) does tend to put a bit of strain on the skin. I usually do wash it very carefully after I have a session and put some lotion on it also. Got to keep "the captain" in good shape when he is heading into battle a lot. . Will give your method a try too.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1101864]Well, at least you got a stiffy. That's half of it.
Us older guys just need a lot more of the right kind of stimulaton after the first pop. [/QUOTE]Yup. Better living thru CHEMISTRY. <grin from ear to ear>
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[QUOTE=Scoubidick; 1101961]Can seems funny but not, sun fix vitamins right?
Otherwise refill with absolutely normal stuff:
Good sleep. 3 meals a day, cut down smoke if you do smoke, fruit juice, foot massage.
You also can regulary cim with a Billion Bar girl, the feeling of the kitten feeding on your cock.
As her life depends on will make your hormons produce more. Thats man's program to provide food LOL. [/QUOTE]Hmmm. Giving new meaning to Tonto's expression "Git'um up scout!" (one would need to familiar with the really old "Lone Ranger" US TV series for this to make sense)
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1101830]
[QUOTE=Edward M; 1101594]Mmm. What makes you think that girls in go-gos take regular health checks?
The more and the harder sex, the more danger.
On the other hand a free-lancer may undergo a lighter sex activity, being a student or a non-professional just raising some extra money, and care more for her own health. In between are thousand of bar-girls that I assume take no particular medical control as well, so all in all there is an average risk to take with each of them.
I wish go-go girls are safer, but I don't think so. [/QUOTE]Depends on the locale. Some owners demand regular health checks (the bad publicity from having an infected poo-ying can be a real drag on business). Trouble is that some of the checks are little more than a signature
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[QUOTE=The Scout;1101999]What other places do double pricing like this besides Lucifer's and Mixx?[/QUOTE]Strictly speaking, ANY PLACE THEY CAN. Try "national parks", boat rides, some restaurants (particularly if one is alone)
There are probably others.
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Amazing Pattaya
I am back in the cold wilderness of the States, but warmed by fond. Mostly. Memories of the LOS. On my first trip to Pattaya last week I was awestruck by the extent of the sex industry there. I stayed at the Hard Rock Hotel, which maintains a GF approach despite its catering to families (why anyone would bring a kid to Patts is beyond me). At most any hour you could find a streetwalker sitting along Beach Road, though the day-shift talent is rough and wooly. There are disagreements on this forum as to whether the Beach Road women pose any greater STD risk than a gogo girl, but I chose not to risk it with a streetwalker. There were many attractive women on the stoll, though.
DAY ONE:
About 5 pm Monday (Dec. The WGs begin flocking to the beach promenade. By 7 pm punters are tripping over them. I head to Walking Street for what would be an entire evening of gazing and grazing. For the shows (pussy eating, ice cube insertions, etc.) Silver Star and Cassynova win big points. Indeed, at Cassynova, a punter munches on one of the show lasses with gusto. After he tires, I am invited for a turn. I appreciate the offer but decline. Cassynova has a sign posted on a wall stating that barfines are 1000 baht, which must be on the higher end. I would ultimately find that the girls were no better looking than the ones at the other gogos, though one particular spinner caught my eye. She had the cutesey, short-cut hair that the Japanese love. Sure enough, a Japanese customer enters and she immediately pounces. Not the first time that would happen in Patts. Another gogo dancer (on my penultimate evening) would tell me she likes Japanese clients because "all they have to do is look at me and they cum". There are a good four or five barfineable girls, but the night is early and I move on after three beers.
I pop into Alcatraz and then The Airport. Of those themed gogos I think the Airport had it down with some nice dance routines and hot girls. I was put off by the solicitation of tips for a rather lame lesbian (no tongue to pussy contact) show and the girls, as well as the hostesses, had a bit of an attitude, perhaps owing to the fact that the joint was jammed with customers. I move on, hit several other bars of no special note.
It is then that I end up in Teazer or Teazers, a spot on the right with girls dancing in front of large plate-glass windows. It's a smallish place that looks like a former diner. At any rate, the looks of the girls, early 20s, college-type, appeals. I am joined by Joy, a 22-whyear old who rings my bells. It's about 1 a. M. And the quest is over. The deal: ST for 3000 baht (plus the 600 barfine) , and that she will allow cunnilingus and that she will suck my cock ("smoking"). For emphasis the gesture is made. And away we go.
As we head to the main road to catch the Jeepney or whatever the trucks are properly called she says that she's hungry. OK, fine. She can get food, no problem. Until she tells me she wants to hit a restaurant that is a 20-minute taxi ride away. Now there's 40 minutes that I'm not going to give up, so I ask her to pick from one of the hundreds of places nearby, any one of them, cost no issue. Joy puts on a long face, but leads me to, of all places, a McDonald's, where I buy her food.
We return to the Hard Rock, where we shower (separately, upon her insistence). She's a natural-looking girl with a fine body. I spend at least 25 minutes giving her a good tongue-lashing, which she seems to enjoy. Now it's your turn, I tell her. This is where things go downhill.
"I'm sleepy," says Joy, who then refuses to suck me. WTF? We had expliciity discussed this, I tell Joy, who claims that she misunderstood my request. B. S, but not a deal-killer. We do the deed in mish, doggie and mish, she rather unenthusiastically. By now it's late, so I suggest we shower and sleep. She showers and I follow. As I am drying myself I can hear her on her cell phone. When I emerge from the bathroom she is fully clothed and ready to leave. WTF, Part Two. This is not the deal, I tell her. She says that her mamasan has summoned her to attend a "birthday party". I tell her that is B. S. And that I know it. Frustrated I end up crumpling up two thousand-baht notes and throw them toward her. I then rush her out of the room.
DAY TWO.
In the afternoon I hit Sabadee, a soapie along one of the main north-south roads about one or two kilometers from my hotel. The deal is 90 minutes for 1900 baht. I am guaranteed a good time. This warranty is worthless, as the girl, a petite, dark-skinned beauty, shortchanges me by 15 minutes. Apparently after you pop, the job is done at Sabadee, so time your pleasure accordingly. I have done the soapy routine, or a variation of it, at Darling in Macau, which did a much better job of ensuring satisfaction. My girl at Sabadee had to keep lubricating herself. I found the ritual to be a bit routine, but it was her refusal to chat for a few minutes after the act that put me off. I complained to one of the managers, an older gentleman, that the girl should have paid me attention for the full 90, but he wasn't buying it. Most patrons simply leave when the deed is done with no complaint. I found the customer orientation at Sabadee to be sorely lacking, and I recommend that punters look elsewhere. There are myriad offerings nearby if you want a soapy.
The following evening I return to Teazer. Joy appears to be off this evening, or has been barfined. I tell the four mamasans about my displeasure and note that the girl could end up getting hurt by an angry punter. Joy, they say, is off this evening. I suggest that as a goodwill gesture I ought to get a "free" bottle of beer, at least, which is agreed to. I had no real interest in doing business with Teazers, but figured that even a beer is a symbolic victory in Thailand. I chat up another beautiful girl with similar looks to Joy. This girl insists that she likes sucking cock and prefers long time. I tell her she could be shortlisted, but I had other stops.
As we chat who walks in the door but my dear friend Joy. Her broad smile evaporates as she sees me. With dramatic panache she screams "WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?" I laugh and shrug my shoulders and she sulks (not sucks, mind you) off. This is simply icing on the cake (though I ultimately am the one who got screwed by her mediocre performance). The other girls, mama and I laugh it off and I exit.
I head south, where I land in the Dollhouse (I think) , where I request a particularly hot, heavily tattooed dancer, to join me for a drink."She can't hear," the mama tells me. It's a blur from there, but I have barfined the most unbelievably beautiful deaf girl in Patts. Now perhaps it was the novelty factor. Nuy drives me back the Hard Rock on her moto. She is a vixen, moaning sweetly as we go at it in bed. The tatts make her look slutty, but she goes only for standard stuff, no CIM. Still, I love the look on her face as we go at it, straight-ahead gaze. If she's not enjoying it she is a very good actress (always a strong possibility). The following morning we repeat, though she refuses to suck my cock, (perhaps because I had not showered? I accompany her downstairs and she picks up her I'd card. I smile as I see the disabled symbol on the cover. There is probably no more capable girl in Pattaya than Nuy, a very smart and likeable girl.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1101828]And, you know, I was starting having fantasies about flying to Brazil next year.
I could get plane tickets to Fortaleza for affordable prices, maybe even better than Rio.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Before your fantasy take off, better to wait and research Rio as it is in the middle of a small war between the police / military and drug lords. The police is trying to clean the city out to make way for the World Cup but the drug lords have other ideas.
FZ
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Brazil
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1101828]Before adding any comment to your very detailled report I want to say this thing you wrote really tore me apart!
As a matter of fact, I am planning now my second journey to Pattaya on January 2011, which is going to be much the follow-up to same-same last year one.
But it my mind it was going to be second and last as I got a little fed-up with thai girls.
As you realized Pattaya is very good for beginners in the sex-tourism biz because monger is helped by a well-organized system, but on the other hand thai girls are not very cute and sometimes not even hot.
And, you know, I was starting having fantasies about flying to Brazil next year.
I am not a high-roller myself and I move to the so-called third world in order to have chaper holiday than in Russia, Czech Republic or even Hungary (where I could get my favourite babes) , being these destinations much closer to my home country, but too much expensive too now.
So, it really hurts me to understand that prices are raising all around and the party is over in Brazil too, or it is limited access only for whealthy ones.
Now, my question is: have you been in other parts of Brazil or are you informed about the business in Salvador o Fortaleza, for example? Is it going to be any cheaper? By the way, I could get plane tickets to Fortaleza for affordable prices, maybe even better than Rio.
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you have fantasies about Brazil then I recommend you go to Rio. Even if you don't like you will have cured the nagging fantasy. I think you will like it though. What Rio is very good at is giving you GFE combined with PSE in a short-time location combined with very sexy and very sexual women. The termas girls will warm up to you very quickly and act like they have loved you for years. When you get into the room they will screw your brains out. They just seem to "know" what to do. I have never had to tell a girl to suck my cock or flip over or get on top. They just know. And they work. For example unlike my experiences in Pattaya the Brazilians will usually start sex with a long, skilled BBBJ and then climb on top for some lively cowgirl. Lots of girls have big firm asses too and that will be a welcome change from Asia.
If you want to butterfly in Rio that will not be a problem, not even in the same club. If you take the same girl three times in three days she may think she is becoming your regular but I have never had a problem when I tell a girl,"I like you and will go with you another time but right now I want to go with X here (or your best friend or your sister)."
Another plus in the termas is that you can "work" a girl a bit before you go to the cabine. If you let a girl know you are interested she will put on a bit of a show for you, making out, grabbing ass, dancing, etc. This is also where I will conduct the interview and find out what the girl is willing to do. Anal, CIM, pictures, video, lesbian show are all common possibilities.
Some girls hawk drinks but they are not compensated for them like in Pattaya so there is no real pressure. I have done 2 sessions many times in a termas and not bought a single drink. After your session often a girl will come back and cuddle with you for an hour or more, unless of course you want to get different one. Then she will leave you alone.
Although I am now enarmored with Pattaya and will probably hit AC soon Rio will always have a special place in my heart and I will probably hit it every once in a while to break up the monsoon season. Whereas I used to think of it as my everything now I will think of it as a rare luxury vacation. In fact that is what the termas where originally set up for. So rich Brazilians could have a place to relax. It even says "relax" on your bill when you take a girl to the cabine.
Rio also has a bit of a LT scene but it is dominated by FLers. I do not like FLers but I have occasionally taken termas girls overnight.
I have never been to Fortaleza. I have a friend that lives in Rio that has been there once or twice. He says it is basically a big FLer haven with unspoiled girls at half the price of Rio. Again, I am not a big FL fan so I probably will not go there myself any time soon.
I can imagine some ways you could have gotten tired of Thai girls. They can be a lot of work. The Brazilians by and large are quite easy. If you have ever been to Devil's Den they are similar there although IMO the Brazilians are more sexy and enjoy there work more.
In conclusion, Rio is expensive but worth it if only once in a while.
Good luck. If you plan a trip feel free to post questions or send me a PM.
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[QUOTE=Edward M;1102833]I have never been to Fortaleza. I have a friend that lives in Rio that has been there once or twice. He says it is basically a big FLer haven with unspoiled girls at half the price of Rio.[/QUOTE]That's enough for me. Having Pattaya as starting point and Rio as final destination (if and when I could ever afford it) I think Fortaleza will do in the between. But all this is going to happen hopefully next year, meaning in 10-12 months!
Right now I am about to move to Pattaya again on Janaury (this I can afford now) and I have to make the best of it, so please stop giving me this or you are going to screw my brain out:
[QUOTE=Edward M;1102833]What Rio is very good at is giving you GFE combined with PSE in a short-time location combined with very sexy and very sexual women. The termas girls will warm up to you very quickly and act like they have loved you for years. When you get into the room they will screw your brains out.[/QUOTE]Brrr! Thanks anyway for being available for support. We will discuss this further in pm or in the Brazilian threat, in order to stay on the Pattaya topic here.
And thanks Freezone too for the tip. This kind of information is very important and essential to share here, as you may not find them in the official tourist sites.
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[QUOTE=Bandy; 1087150]I was in Rolling Stone Bar on Soi 8. One pretty girl caught my eye and she grabbed me. I took a drink and asked her whether she wants to go with me. She was quite attractive and had a good attitude. Her name was PUNG. I settled for 1000 Baht short time. Then came the shock. She said Bar Fine is 500 Baht. I got upset and told her that Bar Fine should be 300 Baht and told her to go away. She called the mamasan who explained me that the bar Fine is 300 Baht plus two lady drinks. If you have time, you can enjoy your time at the Bar drinking with the Lady. Otherwise, pay for the drinks and take her out. Mamasan said that PUNG is one of the outstanding girls and I will be very happy with her. I was satisfied with her explanation and left with PUNG.
In the hotel room, I was very glad that I took out PUNG. She really delivered outstanding service. Most importantly she behaved like a true girlfriend. She is 21 years old and never had children. Her body was perfect. Except anal (I tried a bit, but it was hurting her) , everything was on the menu. Two hours of pure Ecstasy!
I had such a great time that I went to get her next night. She came running and gave me a big hug! Then whispered the bad news- She started her period that morning. Bummer!
I have included two pictures of her. Enjoy!
Bandy[/QUOTE]I am just curious, weren`t you temped to bring home such a beautiful girl and get her away from that life? I know I would have. Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Motor Oil;1103372]I am just curious, weren`t you temped to bring home such a beautiful girl and get her away from that life? I know I would have. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Why ruin a good thing. ?
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So wildhawk. Did you READ any field reports before you spread your money around? Overpaid quite a bit.
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Learning from the best
[QUOTE=Dinghy;1103393]So wildhawk. Did you READ any field reports before you spread your money around? Overpaid quite a bit.[/QUOTE]Yes, Dinghy, I am aware of concerns of ruining the market and don't want to contribute to that.
Made a mistake in my post RE the agreement with Teazers girl. Agreed to 3000 baht for LT, not ST; she split early and I threw 2000 at her. Seemed that the going rate in the gogos was 2000 ST / 3000 LT with barfines of 300 to 600 (didn't / wouldn't pay the 1000 on the sign at Cassynova). Paid 1000 ST with a 300 barfine for a Simon 2 beer garden girl. And is there flexibility on the soapies? Doubt it.
I know, and was offered, lower price deals on girls. Suppose I could have gone with a Beach Roader, too.
Having said all that, I'll be pissing a whole lot of ISGers off when I add that I will actually TIP for particularly good action, coupled with GFE, something I like rather than the wham-bam. Hell, I even bought a Hard Rock T-shirt for one cuddly sweetie. In retrospect that is painful even for me.
Cheers
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Pattay's Bangla street
Just got back from Pattay's Bangla Street. I had a few encounters with escorts and I visted a few massage parlors off Bangla. I had a great time.
In the bar A Go Go a girl can be had for 1500. 2000 Baht + a 600 Baht Barfine and another 600 Baht for a room. I enjoyed picking out the girl from a line up. I remembered tha I had to buy her a drink for some inflated price of 250 baht or something like that. The girls were very pretty here and no Ladyboys.
I also enjoyed Soi Eric. It was like a food court that served hookers instead of food. A girl could be had here for 1500 baht and a 500 baht bar fine. The girls were not as cute and there were plenty of lady boys but still some gems to be found. I took a girl home here for 1500. She wanted me to pay her fine and pointed at a bar. I refused to pay her bar fine because she was out in the street in front of Soi Eric (maybe she paid this herself later) but I said your not even in the bar. 1500 or I pass and she came with me. Interesting to note is that if you take a girl back to your room you will have to pay a fee. I returned with the girl to my hotel at 2am and I sliped the guard 200 baht to get her in.
I really enjoyed to the massage scene. If the parlor has young girls you get a so-so massage but they also offer of sex. If she is old you can get a better massage w / o the sex option. There are 100s of these parlors. I went to one place and had a oil massage for 250 baht and a hand job from a topless girl for another 750 baht. After she did an hour foot massgae for like 150 baht + a few Hong kong dollars I had left over. She offered to go out with me for the evening with one of the other massuses for an additional 500 baht. She promised a 3sum but I would have to buy drinks. I decided not to do this after some thought. I fell in love with another massuse instead later that week. She was at a legit place. Its a long story but after my massage I refused to leave and I begged for more attention to you know who. We kissed exchanged numbers and she gave me the best hand job ever. I learned later that she may have been a LB! You can't tell. You just can't tell.
Beware of girls that string you along and get you to buy them drinks with the promise of coming home with you later. I got roped into this scenerio once. Also bewarf of Ladyboys. You can tell sometimes but not all the time. I was fooled once maybe twice.
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Pattaya 5 day trip report
journey.
extremely hungover i boarded the bus at ekemai at about 2pm. i foget the fare, about 120 baht i think. first booth on the left in the station. bought ticket and was on bus 15 mintues later. luckily i was sat next to an extremely petite thai girl who kept nodding off and falling on me. i slept about half the journey which took just under 3 hrs door to door.
hotel and vicinity.
i booked into the lk renaissance. paying 2100 baht per night. the cheaper rooms are at the back, a fact i never understood given they are much quieter than the rooms at the front. the room is a good size with a jacuzzi bath, and a (facing over a barren wasteland over to, i think, soi honey). this area is a very nice stay to patts: diana has a number of beer bars and soi lk metro really has everything you need. devil's den & [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] (didn't venture into either). a very good go-go (champagne) and an ok one (the office) , and several bars full of nice friendly girls. i spent two complete nights here, out of five total in patts. oasis go-go is round the corner.
the location is sort of midway between walking and soi 6. certainly unless you are unfit or just fucking lazy you can walk to either in 10-15 minutes. or take the baht bus.
soi 6.
i spent a total of three days down there all between 2pm and 6pm. the results were mixed. they can't all be dingers. first day was my favourite fuck in pattaya. i picked up the from siagon girls and took her inside for a drink. she was all over me and very friendly, so i took her upstairs. the room is basic, but at least has a shower ensuite. i forgot to take my camera, but i'm sure if you search around you can find a picture of her. she's quite cute, a little chubby, but great in bed. her sister works there and is a little better looking, bit skinnier. i started off eating her nice shaven twat until she came shuddering. it didn't take very long at all, not sure if that is testament to my oral skills or the fact it was her first fuck of the day and she was very very horny. either way, she then returned the favour to me, giving me a decent and enthusiatic bbbj, with some ass licking thrown in for good measure. i wasn't in the mood for anal, shoot me, but i did decide to stick my tongue in her ass, and she loved it. i fucked her all ways up, and she came two more times, it was very intense and it's quite a thrill when these bar girls really get into it. you sometimes get used to girls going through the motion or faking their pleasure but the way this girl was going crazy and her pussy was convulsing on my cock left me in no doubt.
i finished off with her jacking me off onto her face and then sucking the last drops of come out of my cock. she's not scared of come, in fact she seemed to quite enjoy having her face creamed. she wasn't in any particular hurry to rush off to the shower, instead she spent some time ensuring my cock was completely clean. perfect finish to a great fuck. time in room. just over an hour. damage 1 beer and 1 ld downstairs. 300 for room. 700 for girl. i gave her 1000 since she really went all out for me.
next day i went back to soi 6. i had a few drinks in the jack tar bar. a nice casual bar with no hassles. a nice vantage point to as you can weigh up the girls at the 2 bars opposite (red zone and lisa bar if my hazy memory serves me correct). i had a few too many and was feeling tired, so thought maybe a bj would do this afternoon. i went to my friend you bar as i had heard that you could get done right there in the bar. i picked up a young looking cutie called ba outside. when we went in i ordered a drink, however mamasan immediately told me that this girl only work there one week, farm fresh and her bj skills were not yet honed. she was reluctant to do me in the bar in case she couldn't make me come. as she was a cutie with nice firm tits (she was 20). i thought what the hell and took her upstairs. the room was nicer than the room at saigon girls. it had a sofa and a table too, as well as ensuite shower. thsi girl was very green, and if anything that was quite a turn on. she didn't know how to work the ac unit and i had to do it for her! i could see what the mamasan meant as her blowjob was quite shallow, but what the hell, it felt good. i tasted her pussy too and she came in the way that young girls often do, with them kicking you away and forcing your head away once they are convulsing as its too much for them. she was a nice fuck, all positions, and i came in her mouth and she dribbled it down onto her nice titties. i wouldn't repeat but she's a nice girl and will get better with experience. if you like them fresh however, get in quick! 300 from room. 700 for girl, i gave her 800 and she was grateful. she let me take naked photos too!
next day i went to quicky bar. after my session with ba and walking back to br the day before i was accosted by bee outside quicky bar. a beautiful girl and if i hadn't already blown my beans ten minutes earlier i would have been in the room with her like a shot. by the time i got there bee was already busy, damn, but there was a cute girl called anna outside. she has a tattoo on her tit with her name on it, so you can't miss her. choosing her turned out to be a big mistake. things started well in the shower and then i ate her pussy for ten minutes and all was good she gave a reasonable bbbj to get me hard and then slipped the cover on. during the cover on process, i can sometimes lose a bit of hardness particularly if there is a degree of fumbling by the girl. i offered up my sheathed cock for her to suck it rock solid again. no she say, i no like. i have never heard of a girl giving a bbbj but refusing to suck a condom covered cock. oh well. she played with my balls and ass instead which got me hard and then she jumped on for what was a reasonable fuck, nice tight pussy. when we went to change position she then put a lot of ky in her twat. in mish this wasn't good and i started to lose feeling. i then withdrew and ripped the cover off and told her to suck me off. 'no, i think you not come'. i will come. 'no you take too long'. i had been in the room for 30 minutes, ten of them with my head between her thighs. ok. just toss me off then. 'no i too hot, i take shower'. wtf? the room was pretty crappy, no ensuite shower and the ac did not work very well. but this girl was odd. her sudden change of mood was unsettling. i just sat there bemused. she rushed off to shower. by the time she reappeared i was dressed and making my way out the door. i tossed her 700 baht. you may say that was wrong, but i can't be fucked to make a scene over such a small amount. i left her in the room and fucked off back to my hotel. overall i can't recommend quicky and definitely not anna. if she was having a bad day fair enough, if she is just a stuck up princess then she's in the wrong job.
bj bar.
still needing an off, i walked up to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s and had a look. nothing to interest me. an even poorer line up than lolos in bangkok (which has some nice girls from time to time). i continued the walk up to 3rd road where the bliss lounge is. much nicer selection outside. picked a pretty young things with fake bangers and up to the room. much nicer setting here, good rooms with a bed, dentist style chair and a nice mirrored wall. she took her clothes off at my request and i got a nice titfuck as well as a servicable blowjob. price 600 for the bj, tip of 100.
go-gos.
my mo in pattaya was usually soi 6 afternoon, beer bar early evening and then go-gos nightitme. i never bfed from the go-gos. there's no value in it here in pattaya. plus i preferred to simply have fun and get drunk.
go-go's visited:
baccara. like the bangkok version although the girls upstairs weren't as nice. some nice ones downstairs. i hear the girls expect a lot of money here though i didn't enquire. the one good thing about this place is that they have a moving rotation downstairs. 2 on 2 off every song with around 10-12 girls onstage. it kept it interesting for a while. 69 baht draft all night. 2 beers and i'm gone.
iron club. similar to baccara. some hot girls, but they know it. mamasans pushy. the layout of the club is far from ideal. it's too narrow! there are two stages with a jacuzzi in between them. a girl worked on my cock but i said i wasn't bfing that night, just bar hopping to see what was around. therefore no lds. she continued anyway which was nice.
babydolls. this is one of the more dirty go-gos on (i think) soi 15. some decent girls on stage with some nice bangers. they have a jacuzzi back left where a girl was pissing into a cup (or thats what it looked like). a raised platform front left had two naked girls rubbing up against each other. a guy was getting a hj in the corner. interesting place and for many it is a favourite, but it was too early for me, so one and gone.
windmill. another of the filthier go-gos (?) on soi diamond (?). again 3 areas of action similar to babydolls. i ended up getting involved in the action here which involved a banana my digits and a girls asshole. i'm not proud, i was drunk. quite good fun, and didn't feel overly hassled here.
x-zone
this was an experience, although i'm not sure i'd return. there little table in the middle as you walk in is the place to sit if you want to eat pussy, put your fist up a girls ya-ya or wear a strap on on your head to fuck the girls with. all sorts going on here. i ended up buying drinks fo a girl called mint who has the most splendid set of natural mammaries i have ever seen on a tg. the mamasan struts around the place and looks a little like kim jong il.
champagne. as discussed on lk metro. nice selection of girls and good fun.
office. the support staff were office attire if that works for you.
oasis. didn't see the quality of girls here, though they did have the football on!
overall, the go-gos are much more liberal here than in bangkok. topless is ther norm and nudity pretty much in every bar excpet maybe the higher class joints. there is better value in pattaya than the go-gos though so unless you see someone you simply have to have.
discos.
ventured into marine at about 3am. very loud, expensive beer but some game girls. no cover charge.
beer bars.
after marine stumbled into new simon complex (walking st). exchnaged numbers with a girl 't' and she came to my room the next day for st. 700. decent fuck, nice titties and up for eveything. can't remember the name of her bar as i was drunk.
fc bar. i may be accused of being a lazy fucker but this bar is literally right next to my hotel on soi diana. i took a girl nam out of there twice for two lts. 300 to bar and 1000 to girl. she was extremely cute. 20 yrs old (or 21 can't remember) lovely spinners body and cute face. she's popular as i always walk by the bar and she's usually with someone in there. some photos (but not good ones as she is camera shy). had a nice session in the jacuzzi tub with her and we got drunk on samsung. always good for an enthusiastic morning pop too and not usually in a hurry to leave. i had to stay away from this girl in the end lest i end up lubbing her too mutt.
beach road.
i liked walking on this road between 7 and 13/2 to see what was around. not too much good looking i have to say, and some of it quite frightening. 500 baht fucks available though. nicer girls seemed to be there in the early afternoon for some reason.
pattaya in general.
without wishing to offend anyone, there are a lot of scumbags there on holiday. tattoed faces everywhere. lots of russians too, and they all bring their girlfriends. it's the sort of place you feel you could wear the same shirt three days running and still feel a little overdressed. there are a huge number of girls there, and in many respects the opportunities if not the quality are greater than bkk. i probably would not return except maybe for a weekend if i was in the area. as a value fucking area for a solo hobbyist, i prefer ac in phils. although there ain't much to do in either place except bone.
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[QUOTE=Hungrystud101;1103594]I really enjoyed to the massage scene. If the parlor has young girls you get a so-so massage but they also offer of sex. If she is old you can get a better massage w / o the sex option. There are 100s of these parlors. I went to one place and had a oil massage for 250 baht and a hand job from a topless girl for another 750 baht. [/QUOTE]Usually in Pattaya, in these kind of places, you can get a BBBJ + FS (sometimes) for 1, 000 (inclusive of the massage fee)
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1103732]Usually in Pattaya, in these kind of places, you can get a BBBJ + FS (sometimes) for 1, 000 (inclusive of the massage fee)[/QUOTE]Yeah, but I don't think the guy is talking about Pattaya. There is no Bangla street here that I know of, and no Soi Eric. He might be talking about Phuket.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1103761]Yeah, but I don't think the guy is talking about Pattaya. There is no Bangla street here that I know of, and no Soi Eric. He might be talking about Phuket.[/QUOTE]Holy Shit this was in Phuket. I thought the beach was Pattaya! I will amend my post.
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Afternoon Pretty
[QUOTE=Goatboy55;1103717]Beach Road. I liked walking on this road between 7 and 13/2 to see what was around. Not too much good looking I have to say, and some of it quite frightening. 500 baht fucks available though. Nicer girls seemed to be there in the early afternoon for some reason.[/QUOTE]Saw this little gal on Beach Road yesterday. Very friendly and agreed to pose for a few photos. Remember guys, the thrill is sometimes in the hunt.
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[QUOTE=Hungrystud101;1103813]Holy Shit this was in Phuket. I thought the beach was Pattaya! I will amend my post.[/QUOTE]Huh. You were in Phuket but thought you were in Pattaya? Just out of interest, how did you get to Phuket? Was there a plane or a bus / boat involved and what did it say on the ticket,"Massage Central, Thailand"? LOL
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[QUOTE=Hungrystud101;1103813]Holy Shit this was in Phuket. I thought the beach was Pattaya! I will amend my post.[/QUOTE]I've never been to Phuket but I think there is a beach area there called "Patong," which you might have confused with Pattaya. Oh well, who cares when you're having fun? .
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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1103894]I've never been to Phuket but I think there is a beach area there called "Patong," which you might have confused with Pattaya. Oh well, who cares when you're having fun? .[/QUOTE]Yes that's it. Patong beach (LOL). I loved it and I would go back in a second. The beach the restaurants, the shopping. And oh yes the girls!
I loved it.
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[QUOTE=Doppel One;1103889]Huh. You were in Phuket but thought you were in Pattaya? Just out of interest, how did you get to Phuket? Was there a plane or a bus / boat involved and what did it say on the ticket,"Massage Central, Thailand"? LOL[/QUOTE]No I confused Patong with Pattaya. My bad. Give me a brake. It was a hiatus in the middle of a business trip from hell and I follwed my buddy who made all the arrangements for us. I just confused Patong with Pattaya.
However, if the visit is about sex, Pattaya sounds like a better option to me. How are the beaches?
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One tale of many.
Four weeks ago myself and 2 friends arrived in patts. To make it more fun we had a rule ' if offered to you, you must take it'.
Well we did have some fun.
After 4 days of being banged hard by a crazy nympho I needed a massage.
I chose the first place on soi honey that said massage mr, went upstairs with an older massage lady.
Massage was fine but then she whispers in my ear' I want boom boom with you'. My first thought was no way grandma. But it was offered so I reluctantly agreed.
She stripped naked and I swear she had nipples that were 3 to 4 inches long. She wanted me to suck them, so I did and she was really getting horny, then she grabbed my cock rolled a condom on and told me to fuck her doggy style.
So I banged her hard and as fast as I could, I pulled those nipples hard and she was panting whispering 'oh I cum' over and over.
Then she lays me down and rides me for a while, her nails were digging in my chest and she says ' thank you for fuck me I not boom boom in long time. She jumps off and see's that I have not cum, then she proceeds to Lick my ass, massage and suck my balls, then gives me an HJ until I shoot which she tries to take all in her mouth.
After showering she looks at me and says' how old you think me' being nice I say 35. No no she says.
'me 58'. Great thanks for that info. Gave her 500 bt. Goodbye.
So there is the story of my oldest ever sexual partner.
Another first for Pattaya
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Erotic shows in Pattaya?
I've never been in Pattay and next week I am visiting the place just for one night with business colleagues coming from abroad. One of them, who is my main target for a deal, is very much enjoying erotic sexy shows in clubs. In Bangkok we've been in Cowboy and Nana but this is not his style. He is into upscale places were you can enjoy a nice choreographed sow with beautiful dancers without any need to BF girls or buy drinks.
To understand what I mean one of his favorite places is the Grazy Horse in Paris (who really has a sexy show and not this spectacle shows of Moulin Rouge or Lido).
As far as I know there is not such a place in Bangkok but is there any hope that there is any place like this in Pattaya?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
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Going to a Go-Go?
Hi Folks!
Soon I will be in Pattaya for the second time. My last year experience was only 50% good to me.
Being on a limited budget, I bypassed go-gos and experienced most freelancers and some bar-girls.
Some were cute, some not much, many were shy and sex was nothing hot, after all (poor bbbjs and no cim).
Plus, a lot of wasted time hunting for a cuty, hitting walking street and hopping from bar to bar.
This year, I would like to work more focused and take my payback. Therefore I would definitely try some go-go too.
Same budget, just spread it over 2 weeks only instead of 3: no time and no cash to waste though.
So, here I am summoning you guys to elect the best 3 go-gos in town.
Best in what?
To me:
1) Hot babes. To justify the extra cost of a go-go club I need the girl to be cute, skilled and sexually inclined to some pse. Important also to be affordable, not to be wild on stage and shy in the bedroom or to have to negotiate too much on performance.
2) Price. Ok, I can afford spending a little more, but I wouldn't be very happy with a 2. 000 ST / 3. 000 LT plus 500 BF bath offer. There must be a better value.
Also, I don't like to bargain, or being be pushed by mamasans, or pressed to buy ladydrinks. I am glad to pay what is fair and that's it.
3) Envirnoment. Again, I don't go there to party in the venue but just to pick the best looking girl at cheaper price, so I am not interested in shows or anything else. I just like the sit down for a while until I make my choice, so I would enjoy the place to be as much relaxed as possible (I avoid discos also because crowded, dark and loud).
Yes, I guess a place like these barely exists, but maybe good old veterans here can suggest the closest ones to my criteria. PM accepted as well.
A stream of draft beer on my bill to the best advisor, LOL!
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Hungrystud101; 1103950]No I confused Patong with Pattaya. My bad. Give me a brake. It was a hiatus in the middle of a business trip from hell and I follwed my buddy who made all the arrangements for us. I just confused Patong with Pattaya.
However, if the visit is about sex, Pattaya sounds like a better option to me. How are the beaches? [/QUOTE]Good you didn't go to Patpong in Bangkok as well, never now where you might have ended up.
For sex Pattaya is for sure better than Phuket, the beaches though are not worth much.
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[QUOTE=Teamsatan; 1103980]After showering she looks at me and says' how old you think me' being nice I say 35. No no she says.
'me 58'. Great thanks for that info. Gave her 500 bt. Goodbye.
So there is the story of my oldest ever sexual partner. [/QUOTE]You have much class. I admire that. Most guys would have been rude. I may have fainted. :)
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[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1103581]Having said all that, I'll be pissing a whole lot of ISGers off when I add that I will actually TIP for particularly good action, coupled with GFE, something I like rather than the wham-bam. Hell, I even bought a Hard Rock T-shirt for one cuddly sweetie. In retrospect that is painful even for me.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Depends.
If it was from the runner that left early and you still tipped her, then yes, some of us will not agree with that.
If the tips was appropriate for a good time and she agree to stay (and did) , then some tips are appreciated.
But just don't go overboard on the tips either or you will be branded as a jap or korean want to-be.
FZ
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[QUOTE=Lifeingr; 1104024]I've never been in Pattay and next week I am visiting the place just for one night with business colleagues coming from abroad. One of them, who is my main target for a deal, is very much enjoying erotic sexy shows in clubs. In Bangkok we've been in Cowboy and Nana but this is not his style. He is into upscale places were you can enjoy a nice choreographed sow with beautiful dancers without any need to BF girls or buy drinks.
To understand what I mean one of his favorite places is the Grazy Horse in Paris (who really has a sexy show and not this spectacle shows of Moulin Rouge or Lido).
As far as I know there is not such a place in Bangkok but is there any hope that there is any place like this in Pattaya?
Thanks in advance for your replies. [/QUOTE}
Lifeingr,
Yes, in regards to Erotic shows upscale without need to BF and buy drinks, the only place I can think of right now that has anything close is out near the main bus station on Pattaya Nua. This is where they take bus loads of tour groups from Korean and Chinese to see the sex shows. I haven't seen it myself but a friend earlier this year who is into this kind of stuff went and told me the following.
You will need your original passport, its is 1, 000 entry fee, he told me this about the show. That guys come out naked with their hard dick banging on the drums, there are sex going on with male and female, female with female, and guys and guys. At that point I told him stop I heard enough! He ended telling me he saw the show nearly 3 times but on the 3rd show they kicked him out.
If that is your thing you can hire a Songthaw to the bus station on Pattaya Nua, and when the Songthaw leaves start walking up Pattaya Nua about 50 yards and you will see a dirt road on your right leading down to a bunch of buildings with lights.
LBM
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Don't waste your money.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]Hi Folks!
Soon I will be in Pattaya for the second time. My last year experience was only 50% good to me.
Being on a limited budget, I bypassed go-gos and experienced most freelancers and some bar-girls.
Some were cute, some not much, many were shy and sex was nothing hot, after all (poor bbbjs and no cim).
Plus, a lot of wasted time hunting for a cuty, hitting walking street and hopping from bar to bar.
This year, I would like to work more focused and take my payback. Therefore I would definitely try some go-go too.
Same budget, just spread it over 2 weeks only instead of 3: no time and no cash to waste though.
So, here I am summoning you guys to elect the best 3 go-gos in town.
Best in what?
To me:
1) Hot babes. To justify the extra cost of a go-go club I need the girl to be cute, skilled and sexually inclined to some pse. Important also to be affordable, not to be wild on stage and shy in the bedroom or to have to negotiate too much on performance.
2) Price. Ok, I can afford spending a little more, but I wouldn't be very happy with a 2. 000 ST / 3. 000 LT plus 500 BF bath offer. There must be a better value.
Also, I don't like to bargain, or being be pushed by mamasans, or pressed to buy ladydrinks. I am glad to pay what is fair and that's it.
3) Envirnoment. Again, I don't go there to party in the venue but just to pick the best looking girl at cheaper price, so I am not interested in shows or anything else. I just like the sit down for a while until I make my choice, so I would enjoy the place to be as much relaxed as possible (I avoid discos also because crowded, dark and loud).
Yes, I guess a place like these barely exists, but maybe good old veterans here can suggest the closest ones to my criteria. PM accepted as well.
A stream of draft beer on my bill to the best advisor, LOL!
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]Hi Folks!
Soon I will be in Pattaya for the second time. My last year experience was only 50% good to me.
Being on a limited budget, I bypassed go-gos and experienced most freelancers and some bar-girls.
Some were cute, some not much, many were shy and sex was nothing hot, after all (poor bbbjs and no cim).
Plus, a lot of wasted time hunting for a cuty, hitting walking street and hopping from bar to bar.
This year, I would like to work more focused and take my payback. Therefore I would definitely try some go-go too.
Same budget, just spread it over 2 weeks only instead of 3: no time and no cash to waste though.
So, here I am summoning you guys to elect the best 3 go-gos in town.
Best in what?
To me:
1) Hot babes. To justify the extra cost of a go-go club I need the girl to be cute, skilled and sexually inclined to some pse. Important also to be affordable, not to be wild on stage and shy in the bedroom or to have to negotiate too much on performance.
2) Price. Ok, I can afford spending a little more, but I wouldn't be very happy with a 2. 000 ST / 3. 000 LT plus 500 BF bath offer. There must be a better value.
Also, I don't like to bargain, or being be pushed by mamasans, or pressed to buy ladydrinks. I am glad to pay what is fair and that's it.
3) Envirnoment. Again, I don't go there to party in the venue but just to pick the best looking girl at cheaper price, so I am not interested in shows or anything else. I just like the sit down for a while until I make my choice, so I would enjoy the place to be as much relaxed as possible (I avoid discos also because crowded, dark and loud).
Yes, I guess a place like these barely exists, but maybe good old veterans here can suggest the closest ones to my criteria. PM accepted as well.
A stream of draft beer on my bill to the best advisor, LOL!
Thanks! [/QUOTE]Pattaya is cheap. You should not have to pay those prices in the go-gos unless you go to Alcatraz or Airport. The latter I believe is where the hottest girls are. You can negotiate to 1500 ST. Maybe even 1000 ST if it's late enough. It just depends. I suggest you go to several go-gos and see which one you like; that's what most of us did. The drinks are super cheap during happy hour (sometimes as low as 45 baht) so there's nothing to lose.
I haven't been in 6 months (I live in BKK) but personally, my favorite go-gos in Pattaya are:
Babydolls (barfine is 300 after 1:30 am, many girls will go ST for 1000)
What's Up.
Windmill.
Heaven Above.
Airport (expensive but nice to look at all the hotties)
My least favorites would be.
Peppermint (too big, too crowded, at least half of the girls have implants and attitudes to match)
Baccara (it's nothing compared to the BKK bar; girls weren't very attractive when I went)
Champion (nearly all girls are skanks and have birth marks)
Alcatraz (wayyyyyy too expensive, plus they employ coyote girls who don't go with customers)
The Sea (most bars on this soi suck with the exception of Heaven Above and Superbaby / girl. They are small and girls have attitudes).
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1104151]
[QUOTE=Lifeingr; 1104024]I've never been in Pattay and next week I am visiting the place just for one night with business colleagues coming from abroad. One of them, who is my main target for a deal, is very much enjoying erotic sexy shows in clubs. In Bangkok we've been in Cowboy and Nana but this is not his style. He is into upscale places were you can enjoy a nice choreographed sow with beautiful dancers without any need to BF girls or buy drinks.
To understand what I mean one of his favorite places is the Grazy Horse in Paris (who really has a sexy show and not this spectacle shows of Moulin Rouge or Lido).
As far as I know there is not such a place in Bangkok but is there any hope that there is any place like this in Pattaya?
Thanks in advance for your replies. [/QUOTE]Lifeingr,
Yes, in regards to Erotic shows upscale without need to BF and buy drinks, the only place I can think of right now that has anything close is out near the main bus station on Pattaya Nua. This is where they take bus loads of tour groups from Korean and Chinese to see the sex shows. I haven't seen it myself but a friend earlier this year who is into this kind of stuff went and told me the following.
You will need your original passport, its is 1, 000 entry fee, he told me this about the show. That guys come out naked with their hard dick banging on the drums, there are sex going on with male and female, female with female, and guys and guys. At that point I told him stop I heard enough! He ended telling me he saw the show nearly 3 times but on the 3rd show they kicked him out.
If that is your thing you can hire a Songthaw to the bus station on Pattaya Nua, and when the Songthaw leaves start walking up Pattaya Nua about 50 yards and you will see a dirt road on your right leading down to a bunch of buildings with lights.
LBM[/QUOTE]Thanks LBM,
Not exactly what I am looking for. There should be only girls in the show as he doesn't like at all to see naked man, and of course he will be disgusted I think if he see homosexual man-to-man sex (neither I like this also).
In any case thanks for the suggestion.
Life
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Tipping
[QUOTE=Freezone; 1104115]Depends.
If it was from the runner that left early and you still tipped her, then yes, some of us will not agree with that.
If the tips was appropriate for a good time and she agree to stay (and did) , then some tips are appreciated.
But just don't go overboard on the tips either or you will be branded as a jap or korean want to-be.
FZ[/QUOTE]FYI, nope, the tip was most certainly not for the runner (she of the precious theatrics when I returned to her gogo to complain). The agreed upon 3K LT became the 2K ST. I wonder whether any mongers here have had situations where they undercut even that "standard" ST price (for the top hotties) when agreements (BJ, LT, in the case of the Teazers girl) were not met though standard intercourse positions were.
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Is Pattaya the right choice?
My first post.
I will be heading to China the end of February and I have a free 3 days weekend. After extensively reading your form I decided that the best place for mongering in this part of the world is Pattaya and I would appreciate the help since it is my first time there.
Hotels: I usually stay at the Marriott; will they have problems with bringing 1 or more girls into the room? Do you have recommendation where I should stay and I don't mind spending about $100+ a night.
Girl / s: I will be uncomfortable roaming the streets the first night so I am thinking of hiring a girl from Devel's Den for 24 hours to pick me up from the airport and show me around. Any other recommendation.
I travel extensively in Europe and used to Ukrainians and Czech girls; I typically choose perfect 10 IMHO even if they are a bit more expensive. I really like Asian girls but the scene In Pattaya scares me since most all the girls I've seen are mediocre. Any one can recommend services that offer something special even if it is more expensive.
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The Right Choice
Yeah, Patt is the right choice for mongering. And don't worry about hitting the street. Walking Street is like Mardi Gras. Tons and tons of people, tourists, tourist police, party people. Just don't get too hammered or you will end up with a Ladyboy. Also, walking toward Walking Street, don't walk on the BEACH side of South Patt Road. Stay on the side with all the shops and malls. I say this only because you are uncomfortable but by the second night you will be walking everywhere without worries.
I am like you. I prefer 10's and I don't mind paying up. The best bet, hit SuperBaby and SuperGirl. These two places in the Original Cul-de-Sac of Old Pattaya. The center-center of Walking street have unbelievable girls. Young and beautiful.
Stick with the Go-go bars and go early. Barfine the finest girl early because they will disappear. I steer clear of take-out services and massage delievery services because you really don't know what you will get. Who is to say your taste is similar to the guy you talk to on the phone. IMHO you are much better off visiting the high end gogo's your first night directly on Walking Street. That's why it is there. Don't re-invent the wheel. Even wild horses run in a pack.
Patt is pretty polluted these days. Don't swim in Patt Bay. Take a $0. 50 ferry out to Koh Larn for a day of swimming in clean-ish water, or go way south by taxi and swim there.
Finally, Soi 6 & 8. That area. Is intimidating at first, but in the end, it's all the same. Watch your back, don't get too drunk unless you have a mate watching your back and you will be fine. Some skanky chicks there, though.
Good luck, jack
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SuperBaby and SuperGirl
[QUOTE=Jackzonian; 1104358]The best bet, hit SuperBaby and SuperGirl. These two places in the Original Cul-de-Sac of Old Pattaya. The center-center of Walking street have unbelievable girls. Young and beautiful.
[/QUOTE]Amen to your thumbs-up for SuperBaby and SuperGirl. I affirm your good taste with a longwinded posting about my experience with a girl from one of these clubs.
I hit these places on my last of three nights in Patts and am beating myself up for missing them before that. Indeed, another monger, a Brit named Steve I met (think it was in Alcatraz) recommended his repeat performer, No 2 in SuperBaby. She was off or already barfined, but I thoroughly loved the SuperBaby girls. The place was filled with Japanese and I feared getting the cold shoulder. This was not the case at all. The waitresses were friendly and flirty. A tall girl with the cutesy looks the Japanese and Koreans adore and I locked eyes. She was high on the list. I figured I'd hit another couple of places, return, buy her a drink and chat, then take her back to the hotel. So I move on toward the end of the cul-de-sac and take a right upstairs at a gogo at the end (same side of SuperBaby). I had some fun with a couple of girls who seemed to work in tandem, but was turned off when they sucked up their ladydrinks and tried to sneak another quick round in past me. No doing. I then headed to SuperGirl, opposite its sister club SuperBaby.
There I found the girl of my dreams (sheesh, I can't remember her number, though I do have her real name and email, which I will not divulge for obvious reasons). She's a bit of a waif, light-skinned and gorgeous and it turns out that she is a former competitive (as in world-class, or Asia-class at least) extreme sports athlete. My girl preferred LT (3000 baht) to ST, which seemed at odds with many of her sisters at the better gogos. So we were off to the races. As for her specialty, we're not talking bedtime extreme sports, but she proved worthy of that in the sack, too. She absolutely had the nicest, most responsive pussy I've ever had the honor of plowing (girl performed no CIM, one of my faves, though, I must report, so fans of PSE would be disappointed). The following morning I enjoyed the obligatory second round, again fabulous sex. We scurried off to the buffet breakfast at the Hard Rock, just in time. I suggested on my last day that she go home, grab her swimsuit and we lounge around the hotels incredible pool area (they have fashioned a private sand beach with cabanas that lead into the swimming pool). Instead we decide to head indoors to stay cool, so we take a moto to her flat, which she shares with another former gogo who is being a kept woman by a well-to-do Singaporean. I do not meet the roommate, to my disappointment, because I probably would've begged for a threesome and lost my good-guy (LOL) image. Apparently the roommate is indeed keeping out of the game per moneybags' demand, but is itching to get back into dancing. So there guys, there is a slight possibility that sponsorship "works out". For some period of time, anyhow. Anyhow, I play around with my girl's kitten (not pussy mind you) and we head to the mall, where I buy a fast-food lunch and we enjoy a Thai movie together. Just a sweet little GFE. The girl shares with me her typical Isaan story (she's supporting the family, must send mom 3000 baht two times a week or so, is supporting the brother's college tuition). I implore her to take care of herself, but she doesn't need my advice. I have spent an enjoyable evening and following day with a great girl.
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[QUOTE=Samata61; 1104331]My first post.
I will be heading to China the end of February and I have a free 3 days weekend. After extensively reading your form I decided that the best place for mongering in this part of the world is Pattaya and I would appreciate the help since it is my first time there.
I travel extensively in Europe and used to Ukrainians and Czech girls; I typically choose perfect 10 IMHO even if they are a bit more expensive. I really like Asian girls but the scene In Pattaya scares me since most all the girls I've seen are mediocre. Any one can recommend services that offer something special even if it is more expensive. [/QUOTE]Is it also your first time in Thailand?
I have not been experimenting Pattaya yet, to be honest, and respecft more prestigious comments from other Sr Members and more experienced about the venue, but as a first time I'd have chosen BKK.
Just my 2 bahts! .
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[QUOTE=Samata61; 1104331]I will be heading to China the end of February and I have a free 3 days weekend. After extensively reading your form I decided that the best place for mongering in this part of the world is Pattaya and I would appreciate the help since it is my first time there.
Hotels: I usually stay at the Marriott; will they have problems with bringing 1 or more girls into the room? Do you have recommendation where I should stay and I don't mind spending about $100+ a night.
Girl / s: I will be uncomfortable roaming the streets the first night so I am thinking of hiring a girl from Devel's Den for 24 hours to pick me up from the airport and show me around. Any other recommendation.
I typically choose perfect 10 IMHO even if they are a bit more expensive. I really like Asian girls but the scene In Pattaya scares me since most all the girls I've seen are mediocre. Any one can recommend services that offer something special even if it is more expensive. [/QUOTE]The Marriott Pattaya is GF great. It is where I stay when in town. They have a great pool/garden area to relax during the day and the breakfast buffet is very good (lots of fresh fruits, juice, western and eastern dishes). There is a private entrance from beach road into the garden area to bring your girls back at night. Just say high to the security guard as you walk in and he will smile and salute you. I think the rooms in the 4 story annex just north of the pool are best for your purposes; nice and private. Request one of those rooms. The Marriott is just a few blocks walking distance to Go Go central. Do not be apprehensive or uncomfortable. The place is totally safe like some weird cross between an adult Disneyland amusement park and Fort Lauderdale, Thai style.
In Pat, Go Go's are the way to go. Don't fight it if you want the best looking girls. I recommend What's Up A Go Go with it's amazing party ambiance but I also like Heavens Above, Super girls, Baccara and at least four or five others.
In sheer numbers and ease of access, I don't think any place in the world can top Pattaya. But, if you are interested in the highest quality girls (min 8 out of 10*), then maybe the B Man is right and you should at least consider Bangkok. In BKK there only two Go Go's that have really beautiful girls all the time: Rainbow 4 and Baccara. In addition however, BKK has these amazing soapy massage parlors where you will find the real beauties of Thailand. La Belle, Long Beach, Tarawadee, Copa Cabana, La De 'fense all rate. So if money is no object, go to Bangkok.
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A Little Help
Good luck on your first trip to Pattaya. If I were you I would stay in the new Hilton on top of a new 7 story world class mall. You will have access to 100's of restaurants in the mall and a ton of other things to enjoy.
If you stay at the Marriott or Hilton you will have access to Baht Buses which run one way towards Walking Street on Beach Road and one way back towards your hotel on 2nd road which is only a short walk from Beach Road. You will have no trouble getting around and it is very safe. It is not too complicated getting on or off the bus. Just stick your hand out and they will stop and then ring the bell when you want to get off all for 10 Baht each trip.
Hiring a girl you do not know to show you around is a real BAD idea. Once you get here you will understand much better. From either hotel it is only 5 minutes to Walking Street where your life will change forever. You are not going to believe what you are going to see. There are 1'000's of beer bars. 100's of Go-Go and 10, 000's of Freelancers walking by.
I love it when guys write on here they want a 10 the second the come into to town and do not want to look around for them. Sorry to tell you it does NOT work that way. Part of the fun of being in Pattaya is going from bar to bar looking for a girl that you are attracted to.
You can increase your odds by hitting Happy a Go-Go, Super-Girls or my new favorite the Airport. That being said the hottest girl in town can be at the dumpiest bar. You just never know, you have to look around.
If you only stand on Walking Street itself between 10 PM and 12 Pm you will have 1'000's of stunning freelancers walking to the discos on Walking Street and many of them are just as good as any girl you will find at any bar.
My most important piece of advice I can give you is to choose a girl that LIKES you and not the most attractive one you see. Never but ever just bar fine a girl without talking to her first.
If you see a girl at a bar you like ask her over for a drink. She will then send you signals if she wants to go with you or not. If she is all over you laughing, joking, grabbing you everywhere and asking you to bar fine her then she likes you and it is time to get out of there. If she does not like you, who cares there are 1, 000's of others that will and it is time to find another bar. Try to look for the hot girls that dance great, they are usually great in the sack.
If you are only going to be here a few days there are 2 other spots you must hit which are the Soppies by the Big C mall and Soi 6. They are both open in the afternoon and they are where you should go then and Walking Street at night. To get to them just hop on a Baht Bus on 2nd road and look for the signs you cannot miss them.
Good luck, if you handle this correct you will have the time of your life and be dying to get back the second you have to go to the airport.
[QUOTE=Samata61; 1104331]My first post.
I will be heading to China the end of February and I have a free 3 days weekend. After extensively reading your form I decided that the best place for mongering in this part of the world is Pattaya and I would appreciate the help since it is my first time there.
Hotels: I usually stay at the Marriott; will they have problems with bringing 1 or more girls into the room? Do you have recommendation where I should stay and I don't mind spending about $100+ a night.
Girl / s: I will be uncomfortable roaming the streets the first night so I am thinking of hiring a girl from Devel's Den for 24 hours to pick me up from the airport and show me around. Any other recommendation.
I travel extensively in Europe and used to Ukrainians and Czech girls; I typically choose perfect 10 IMHO even if they are a bit more expensive. I really like Asian girls but the scene In Pattaya scares me since most all the girls I've seen are mediocre. Any one can recommend services that offer something special even if it is more expensive. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami; 1104399]If I were you I would stay in the new Hilton on top of a new 7 story world class mall. You will have access to 100's of restaurants in the mall and a ton of other things to enjoy.
[/QUOTE]Anyone know if this new Hilton is guest friendly?
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[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1104385]In sheer numbers and ease of access, I don't think any place in the world can top Pattaya. But, if you are interested in the highest quality girls (min 8 out of 10*), then maybe the B Man is right and you should at least consider Bangkok. In BKK there only two Go Go's that have really beautiful girls all the time: Rainbow 4 and Baccara. In addition however, BKK has these amazing soapy massage parlors where you will find the real beauties of Thailand. La Belle, Long Beach, Tarawadee, Copa Cabana, La De 'fense all rate. So if money is no object, go to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Yeah, if money is no object, then don't waste your time in Pattaya. Bangkok has much hotter girls. Upstairs in Baccara probably has the hottest go go girls in the country. Tilac and Shark are good too. You won't have to look far to find a hot girl in Bangkok. I've never tried the soapy scene but I hear Poseidon, Nataree, and Amsterdam are the best.
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami;1104399]You can increase your odds by hitting Happy a Go-Go, Super-Girls or my new favorite the Airport. That being said the hottest girl in town can be at the dumpiest bar. You just never know, you have to look around.[/QUOTE]I recommend going to these places early. 8-9pm because some hot ones get bar fined by then. It's great to see them even if you're not planning on taking them.
[QUOTE=Samata61;1104331]Hotels: I usually stay at the Marriott; will they have problems with bringing 1 or more girls into the room? Do you have recommendation where I should stay and I don't mind spending about $100+ a night.[/QUOTE]You should reserve the room for 2 people. You might be fine bringing in 1 girl. And maybe another. But sometimes they want joiner fee (I'm unsure the price). But if you're spending $100+ then maybe the extra $10-15 wouldn't bother you.
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Hi guys.
First, thank Mangofan for your detailled answer: this is what I want to read.
[QUOTE=Bill Miami]You can increase your odds by hitting Happy a Go-Go, Super-Girls or my new favorite the Airport. That being said the hottest girl in town can be at the dumpiest bar. You just never know, you have to look around.[/QUOTE]Good tip too. Lots of talking about the Airport. Is it the one right on Walking Street with some calling girls outside dressed as hostess?
Can you give me some prices about these places, Airport and SuperGirls please? ST, LT, BF and ladydrink?
[QUOTE=The Scout; 1104554]I recommend going to these places early. 8-9pm because some hot ones get bar fined by then. It's great to see them even if you're not planning on taking them.[/QUOTE]I will. Thanks. Just in case I have to hop from one go-go to another before I find the place that suits me is there any fee to pay at the door or just the immediate request for a drink?
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Pattaya Vs. Bangkok
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1104363]Is it also your first time in Thailand?
I have not been experimenting Pattaya yet, to be honest, and respecft more prestigious comments from other Sr Members and more experienced about the venue, but as a first time I'd have chosen BKK.
Just my 2 bahts! . [/QUOTE]
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Pattaya Vs. Bangkok
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1104363]Is it also your first time in Thailand?
I have not been experimenting Pattaya yet, to be honest, and respecft more prestigious comments from other Sr Members and more experienced about the venue, but as a first time I'd have chosen BKK.
Just my 2 bahts! . [/QUOTE]You guys are incredible and your input is invaluable. I only chose the quote of Bionicman out of respect because he appears to be the most senior.
This will be my second time in LOS. My first time was a couple of years ago for one night in Bangkok and I had the service of one of the girls from 'Bangkok Gold escorts'; she was an easy 9 somewhat expensive but was fun. I did not have any time to check anything else not even a soapy massage.
I am convinced and will go to Bangkok instead.
What are the good hotels near the action in Bangkok?
What is a soapy massage (Sounds stupid but I never had one). Is it only a HE or is there FS too.
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[QUOTE=Samata61; 1104676]You guys are incredible and your input is invaluable. I only chose the quote of Bionicman out of respect because he appears to be the most senior.
I am convinced and will go to Bangkok instead.
What are the good hotels near the action in Bangkok?
What is a soapy massage (Sounds stupid but I never had one). Is it only a HE or is there FS too. [/QUOTE]
don't take me senior by the number of posts.
Still I have a bit (but not extensive) experience of Thailand and as I said none on Pattaya.
So take this with caution!
What I meant on BKK is that it offers a wide variety of each and anything, maybe more spreaded than Pattaya, very true. But gives the chance to see a bit more the normal life thai environment (albeit still pushed by the scene when you go to areas as Nana, etc.
There is a JW Marriott right in Nana, but others hotels nearby are of not far quality.
Lots of guys go to Livingston Lodge in Soi 33 (see separate forum for that) .10 min taxi from Nana, with its own surrounding.
It includes its own Sports bar with ladies.
But as a newbie on that, as others suggested, go out and explore, for the simple reason you will have the chance to see around how the mongering scene works out.
If you stick to LL only, with all respect and with no offence it is like spending 2 days in a brothel (and LL is not one, and not meant to be one: just trying to explain how you will limit yourself to experience BKK.
LL facilities, pool, looong breakfast, the local girls etc risk to hold you in! With no will to go out! LOL.
Look at the Soap massage forums (here there are 3: on Tulip, on Annie's, on all but the previous too.
A soap massage delivers a lot and FS is a no brainer. One might discuss how the FS is given. Not if given. . Multipops are often in the menu, and the girl will entartain you for appro 90 minutes (depends on the venue)
You will be 'soaped' in a tub, body massage, BBBJ, etc etc. No need to go in details as the action takes place both in the tub, and / or on the wet mat and on the bed, all in the same room.
Walk around from LL to Soi 4 (Nana) and themore you approach Nana you will see, from late afternoon how easy is to pick up a WG without she being too obvious.
And also look at the local and legitimate beauties.
My problem in the odd hours between 5 and 8pm or so is, for fun, to detect who is going home from (office) work and who is coming from home to go adn work at bars etc. .
Sometime it is a hard task.
Go-Go bars are there too,
I once saved this URL, try it (it doesn't seem to work on my PC but does on my ipod!)
If it works full of infos on the hot area (Sukhumvit)
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.728504,100.571701&spn=0.012236,0.01856&z=16[/url]
Have fun and report back
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We should move this to the Bangkok Forum
[quote=samata61; 1104676]i am convinced and will go to bangkok instead.
what are the good hotels near the action in bangkok?
what is a soapy massage (sounds stupid but i never had one). is it only a he or is there fs too. [/quote]overall i think this is the right decision for you this trip considering you only have 3 days, but i guarantee you that one day you will visit pattaya.
bangkok has many very good hotels. it is a buyers' market. i strongly recommend the grand millennium.
[url]http://www.millenniumhotels.com/th/grandmillenniumsukhumvitbangkok/index.html[/url]
the hotel is located right around the corner from soi cowboy and the skytrain & mtr rapid transit. there are plenty of taxis available 24/7. it is a modern, new, very nice 4. 5* hotel. better than the marriott, which is fine, but the location of the marriott is really good only for nana and nightclubs. i think the grand millennium overall is far better especially if you plan to go to the high end soapies. but, be sure to check out soi cowboy when you are there as well. coyboy is a miniature walking street, pattaya. baccara is a great go go. tilac and shark are worth a look see too.
the high end soapies are definately full service, sir. we don't recommend a venue this highly if it was not world class quality. you will never forget the experience. in my previous post, i made some good suggestions for you. in addition, check out these two links:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1421-bangkok-massage-parlors-except-tulip-and-annies!&p=730486[/url]! p=730486. scroll down to post #625.
from the isg forum. a little dated, but read it to get yourself up to speed. the directions to the soapies are spot on.
next check this website.
[url]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/index2.php[/url]
this is an amazing website. see the girls, check prices, locations and decide for yourself which soapies you want to go to.
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I am like you. I prefer 10's and I don't mind paying up. The best bet, hit SuperBaby and SuperGirl. These two places in the Original Cul-de-Sac of Old Pattaya. The center-center of Walking street have unbelievable girls. Young and beautiful.
One more comment on Superbaby & Supergirl : they are 100% non- smoking.
If anyone knows any other go-go's that are strickly non smoking please add to the list.
The reason I'm looking is because the music in both those places is pretty bad, alot of rap crap and stuff the girls
Cannot even dance to.
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Pattaya vs. Bangkok
[QUOTE=Samata61; 1104676]You guys are incredible and your input is invaluable. I only chose the quote of Bionicman out of respect because he appears to be the most senior.
This will be my second time in LOS. My first time was a couple of years ago for one night in Bangkok and I had the service of one of the girls from 'Bangkok Gold escorts'; she was an easy 9 somewhat expensive but was fun. I did not have any time to check anything else not even a soapy massage.
I am convinced and will go to Bangkok instead. [/QUOTE]On a 3 day vacation for the purpose of mongering and selecting Bangkok over Pattaya is a real BAD move. I have lived in Thailand now for 8 years, the 1st one in Bangkok and the last 7 in Pattaya.
If you took all the best spots in Bangkok and put them all together including Nana Plazza, Soi Cowboy, Patpong and every other major complex you would not even have 1/50 of what Walking Street offers, much less the rest of what Pattaya has.
There is NO place in Thailand or anywhere else in the world that even comes close to offering the quantity, variety and quality that Walking Street does and that is coming from somebody that frequented virtually every bar and complex in Bangkok as well as Pattaya.
As for any one bar having the best looking women, who are you guys kidding? These girls come and go so quickly it is crazy. You can go into one bar and they will have the best looking girls you have ever seen and then go back 2 weeks later and you will wonder if you even walked into the same place because all the girls you liked will be gone.
As for looking at stunning girls with very little chance of getting them, then hanging out at a busy BTS station on a work day in the morning or afternoon when they are going home is unreal.
However, if you are 20 to 35, can speak Thai, and have a great deal of money, and you spend a week chasing girls on the BTS you will have more beautiful girl friends than you know what to do with. I am 53 now and when I got here I was 45 and I got lucky a few times on the BTS, but it is not easy.
As for the girls on Bangkok Escorts, there is nothing special there. Every Go-Go bar on walking street has 10 of them; some have 30, 40 or 50. There are also a ton of university students and secretaries that come down from Bangkok on their days off to try their luck as freelancers at the discos on Walking Street.
All of that being said you should have a fantastic time in Bangkok and I love the city. But is not even close to Pattaya as far as ladies go unless you want to find a nice girl to have as a girlfriend or to get married to.
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami;1104751]...If you took all the best spots in Bangkok and put them all together including Nana Plazza, Soi Cowboy, Patpong and every other major complex you would not even have 1/50 of what Walking Street offers, much less the rest of what Pattaya has...[/QUOTE]Yep.
If your interests are primarily mongering, then Pattaya is paradise on earth.
(And I've only lived here 3 years)
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Pattaya is More Than Just Go Gos
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]Being on a limited budget, I bypassed go-gos and experienced most freelancers and some bar-girls. * * * This year, I would like to work more focused and take my payback. Therefore I would definitely try some go-gos too.[/QUOTE]In my opinion Soi 6 is a good value. You get to choose from dozens and dozens of girls who stand outside the bars, allowing plenty of opportunity to find one you like without buying drinks or getting pressure from mamasans. Once you make your choice, in exchange for a 50 baht cola you can sit with the girl and gauge her mood and your chemistry. If you're interested you can go upstairs for a shower and a short time session in a modest (but clean) room. You'll pay 700 to the girl and 300 to the bar. All in, that's about USD $35.
Bunky
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First Time in Pattaya
[QUOTE=Samata61;1104331]I will be uncomfortable roaming the streets the first night so I am thinking of hiring a girl from Devil's Den for 24 hours to pick me up from the airport and show me around. Any other recommendation?[/QUOTE]Getting off the plane in Bangkok to find a girl waiting to join you for the ride to Pattaya sounds like fun in theory. But if you search previous reports from guys who have tried this, you'll see this is a bad idea. You will pay a hefty fee for a woman who might not be very good looking and who will spend most of the ride just sitting there even after you pay a very large fee. I recommend arranging for a car from the VR Taxi Service in Pattaya:
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
The proprietor is good about returning e-mail and his drivers are very reliable. I paid 1,100 for a ride from Bangkok to Pattaya and vice versa, plus a tip of 100 baht.
After you check into your hotel (search the forum for plenty of reports on the Marriott) walk to Beach Road and catch one the numerous baht buses to Walking Street. Try to arrive by 2000-2100. Fare is 10 baht. Walk down the street looking on the left for the signs for Soi Diamond. Turn left and walk about 25 meters. You'll come a little roundabout. There you will find Super Baby, Super Girls and Heaven Above go-gos. Even guys who are picky about looks report they can find a girl they fancy in one of those places.
Pick the girl of your dreams and go back to your hotel. Long time, short time, up to you. Pricing varies with market conditions, but figure 1,500 to 2,500 for short time, plus the bar fine of 600 and whatever you spend on lady drinks at about 150 each. Add 500 for long time.
Lather, rinse and repeat.
Bunky
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[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1104821]Yep.
If your interests are primarily mongering, then Pattaya is paradise on earth.
(And I've only lived here 3 years) [/QUOTE]My two cents:
The guy is staying 3 days / night.
BKK offers a decent variety, maybe not as concentrated as Pattaya.
But we still talk about 3 days. Ending up in Pattaya where you get all and more in a small area, might risk (this is an opinion.) to confuse the guy.
My strategy in BKK would be: day #1 for plan A, day #2 for plan B, day #3 for plan C.
Whatever you want to include in A or B or C.
A can be lurking at Nana to get the bearing + a soapie nearby + a free lancer.
B can be testing one or two MP's or so.
C can be Soi Cowboy etc.
Whatever prefernce, whatever sequence.
I mean a day is indeed made of 24hrs (incl sleeping) : if one can spend 12 hrs in mongering. He is a hero! LOL.
Give time to each and everything
Do not get brain drunk by tons of (different) possibilities everytime the eyes move by a few degrees as ALL is in there. One can end up with too much offer he can't decide.
BKK. Even if it is not so ruled. Offers the opportunity of a few areas with specifics themes and to be approached one at a time.
Just a thought
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BKK to Pattaya
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1104978]Getting off the plane in Bangkok to find a girl waiting to join you for the ride to Pattaya sounds like fun in theory. But if you search previous reports from guys who have tried this, you'll see this is a bad idea. You will pay a hefty fee for a woman who might not be very good looking and who will spend most of the ride just sitting there even after you pay a very large fee. I recommend arranging for a car from the VR Taxi Service in Pattaya:
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
[/QUOTE]Certainly have to agree on this, though I haven't tried the service. You'd be saving a good deal of money on girls of your choosing by finding your own way to man's heaven on earth. If your flight to BKK arrives in the afternoon you can just head up to the departure level (take the odd escalator walkways) and catch a taxi outside. The cabbie has just dropped off a passenger and has an incentive to pick up a new fare on a long haul (70 mins.). I paid 1000 baht, not cheap but less expensive than some I've seen. If you don't mind waiting there are various buses, too.
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Guys can't we all just get along. LOL. Which destination is better is a never ending debate. BKK vs. Pattaya. Pattaya vs. AC. Pattaya vs. Rio. Sao Paulo vs. BKK. BKK & Pattaya vs. Manila & AC. Macau vs. Pattaya. It is all so subjective. I am just glad we got all these great places to get our dicks wet. Life is good even if this is a 'world of shit.' [Full Metal Jacket]. I have found that there is no heaven on earth.
I started having sex outside the USA on my first trip to Jamaica on a summer break from college. Bob Marley & the Wailers were an upcoming band back then. A free lancer in Montego Bay saw me on the terrace of my hotel and asked if I wanted to shag her, for free. Her name was Nora. I will never forget that girl.
On my first 5 trips to LOS and South East Asia, I never made it to Pattaya. I was still more than satisfied. I was banging hot Asian girls and enjoying every minute of it. Then one day in 2002, I was in Bangkok having a great time when I casually called a friend of a friend who lived in Pattaya. He invited me down for the weekend. 'Nuff said. I love Pattaya. I always like dropping by for a week or two. There ain't a place like it anywhere, but I also love BKK, Macau, HKG, Phnom, San Jose, Santiago, and Sao Paulo. This next trip, in addition to Los, I will be checking out PI for the first time. I think I am going to like it. Have gun, will travel.
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[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1104982]Certainly have to agree on this, though I haven't tried the service. You'd be saving a good deal of money on girls of your choosing by finding your own way to man's heaven on earth. If your flight to BKK arrives in the afternoon you can just head up to the departure level (take the odd escalator walkways) and catch a taxi outside. The cabbie has just dropped off a passenger and has an incentive to pick up a new fare on a long haul (70 mins.). I paid 1000 baht, not cheap but less expensive than some I've seen. If you don't mind waiting there are various buses, too.[/QUOTE]I've been to Pattaya several times and will be back there next month. I always walk out to catch the metered taxis. The highest rate I paid was 950bht and that was in May during the fighting.
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[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1104981]My two cents:
The guy is staying 3 days / night.
BKK offers a decent variety, maybe not as concentrated as Pattaya.
But we still talk about 3 days. Ending up in Pattaya where you get all and more in a small area, might risk (this is an opinion.) to confuse the guy.
My strategy in BKK would be: day #1 for plan A, day #2 for plan B, day #3 for plan C.
Whatever you want to include in A or B or C.
A can be lurking at Nana to get the bearing + a soapie nearby + a free lancer.
B can be testing one or two MP's or so.
C can be Soi Cowboy etc.
Whatever prefernce, whatever sequence.
I mean a day is indeed made of 24hrs (incl sleeping) : if one can spend 12 hrs in mongering. He is a hero! LOL.
Give time to each and everything
Do not get brain drunk by tons of (different) possibilities everytime the eyes move by a few degrees as ALL is in there. One can end up with too much offer he can't decide.
BKK. Even if it is not so ruled. Offers the opportunity of a few areas with specifics themes and to be approached one at a time.
Just a thought[/QUOTE]On my first trip to Thailand I stayed in BKK for one night the next day me and a group of friends went on a day trip to Pattaya. I've been sold on Pattaya ever since, Bangkok is cool if he had more time. If he has only 3 days. I'd say go to Pattaya stay on soi 8 (eastiny place) and prepare to have fun. He can visit the bars the on soi 6, 7 &8 during the days and hit walking street at night. I'll arrive in BKK next month the first night I will meet a friend in BKK the next morning I'll be in Pattaya.
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First Time
Since we are talking about first times here. My first few times in BKK I had not even heard of Pattaya. Then I met a guy in the lobby of the Nana hotel who was either in the US Army or a contractor in Iraq. I asked him what he was up to. He said that he was waiting for the bus to Pattaya. I asked what that was. He told me and my wingman that it was better and cheaper than BKK. We had been to a lot of mongering destinations and so far the number one spot had been about a tie between Rio and BKK.
It still took me a few more visits before I stepped foot in Pattaya. But since I went there I have not looked back. We finally visited Manila and AC in September and we were not impressed. If you are not fucking, eating, or sleeping then there is literally nothing else to do. Plus Filipinas are shaped like a board when their clothes are removed. Since Brazil has changed so much (exchange rate being cut more than half, inflation, closing of Help Disco) it is really not even worth going to anymore. And I lived there and did some MBA studying there so that is saying a lot.
My first few times in Pattaya I stayed on Soi 8 but then I got tired of all of the noise. I moved to the All Seasons Hotel where it is very quiet. Then I stayed at a small apartment building for 500 baht/day a couple of times before getting my own room for 4,000 baht/month in a larger, almost new building. To me and my VHO Pattaya is by far the number one mongering destination on the planet. Not only because of the girls, bars, and discos, but also because there is so much else to do between sessions.
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[QUOTE=Bunky; 1104972]In my opinion Soi 6 is a good value. You get to choose from dozens and dozens of girls who stand outside the bars.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Just be careful though as on my last trip to patts, alot of those so called girls standing or sitting out the bars were LBs.
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Are you sure?
What exactly is it that you all like so much about the new Pattaya?
A few years ago the place really was a paradise, but now? The beer bars are dead, with a few old horrors working in them, and the gogos are full of scamming tattooed skanks.
Last few times I was in Pattaya was a numbing experience, not much fun at all. Am I going to the wrong bit or something?
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[QUOTE=Uptown Hustler; 1105448]What exactly is it that you all like so much about the new Pattaya?
A few years ago the place really was a paradise, but now? The beer bars are dead, with a few old horrors working in them, and the gogos are full of scamming tattooed skanks.
Last few times I was in Pattaya was a numbing experience, not much fun at all. Am I going to the wrong bit or something? [/QUOTE]Sometimes you have to make your own fun. If you are just sitting around waiting for someone to drop a ton of fun in your lap then it won't happen. Since I don't believe in bar fines and I don't drink much then I don't do bars and agogos. I am strictly freelance and non-pro. Sure I might stroll down Soi 6 and talk shit but I have no intention of going with any of them until they are off the clock and at such time turn into freelance. I will have them call later or meet me at the disco. You have to remember a bar girl or an agogo dancer is expected by the establishment to produce. Their primary purpose is to separate you from your money as quickly and efficiently as they can. Disco girls in Pattaya on the other hand are not under so much pressure. They are mostly out having a good time in hopes of making a few baht while they are at it. We have even fucked chicks from discos that did not want any money from us.
Many guys go to Pattaya looking for sex. I just go to simply have a great time. As I tell non-pros all around the world when they go into the spill about they are not going to fuck me because they want more than sex, etc, etc. I can fuck anybody. Why do I need to fuck you? I can go down to spot XYZ and pay 20K pesos. 20 soles, $10, 15 reais and so on if I just want to fuck somebody. Pussy has never been a problem for me. Getting a nice woman who I genuinely enjoy being around and who is not full of shit is the problem. Take for instance today. I am in Accra, Ghana. This morning at 11am I met a young lady who works in a stall at the crafts market. She came by my hotel at 6pm when she got off work. We laid in the bed together talking, she let me suck on her very perky tits, then she went home. And this girl is a non-pro who I have never laid eyes on until today. There is an inexhaustible supply of pussy on this planet. There is no need to go after it like a hound. Just sit back and let it cozy up to you.
As the saying goes YMMV. Everyone can't be Deuce Bigelow or Leon Phelps. You just have to play the hand that you were given. Some guys are good with computers, and some are good in finance, while others have a way with women. It really trips me out when guys talk about pros in Pattaya or AC that would not stay the time they were supposed to and think I'm full of shit when I say it is hard for me and my wingmen to get them to leave. But that is really all we are used to. Another thing I find funny is when guys say the women are not up to their standard. You mean out of thousands of women you can't find 1. Forget thousands. We will just say out of hundreds on Beach Road alone you can not find 1 that meets your standards? Shit in Pattaya even a woman can find a woman. I don't know who these guys have been fucking back home all of their lives. They must live in a city full of Angelina Jolies or something.
I say just find someone who you will be satisfied with fucking and enjoy hanging out with until one that you just got to stick your dick in solely based on your stunner criteria comes along. Then transfer to the other train. But beware, everything that glitters is not gold. That is another way guys are going wrong. They go into the agogos and beer bars where the "show" must go on. Then they get back to the hotel and find out they have a dud or a starfish. A good example is my ex girlfriend in Peru. She is a TV personality. At work she has to deal with all these people and really appears to be a sociable person. But in reality she is a loner and hates being around people. One is the "show / work" her but the real one is the her when the cameras go off and she leaves the studio. So don't be pulled in by glitz and glamor. It may be only temporary and / or work-induced.
As far as non-pros go I used to get on TLL before I made a trip to Thailand. I was pretty successful on the site too. (I am reminiscing about a hairstylist my first time in Pattaya who literally begged me to cum in her mouth.) Out of the at least 12 girls that I have met in person from the site there were only 2 that I didn't fuck. One was a bartender on the Artist Soi in BKK. And even still she spent the night with me. The other was a divorced mom with 2 kids. She picked me up from the Nana Hotel in her Jeep Cherokee and all but I was a bit too fast for her. I don't even go on those websites anymore. I have found that it is so easy to cold pull the non-pros all over Pattaya that there is no need. Not many refuse to go to the beach together, have a drink, or do lunch.
Whatever you are into Pattaya will offer it to you on steroids. If anyone should leave that place disappointed then maybe they were just not doing something right. My wingmen and I were not impressed by the scene in AC, but we knew that once we arrived in Pattaya everything would be made all better.
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Bad experience with bar girl
[B]Last night I barfined this bar girl working near Walking Street. [/B] I had sat at her bar, bought a few drinks, both for her and me. She said she liked me and wanted to go with me, so off we went.
At my place she wanted to drink a few Bacardi Breezers on the balcony, which was no problem with me. Neither of us got drunk, just cheerful.
[B]Then it was time to hit the sack. [/B] First she showered, then me. When I got into bed with her she said she just wanted to sleep."I make boom boom in morning", she promised.
Okay, so when we woke up this morning she just said "I go now. Give me money".
[B]I was stunned. [/B] Since we hadn't had any sex whatsoever, I told her "No boom boom, no money". She just sat there looking a bit grumpy.
[B]Then she said she would call the Police! [/B]I asked her why."Up to me", she said. So she picked up the hotel-room phone, but didn't make a call. Obviously she was bluffing.
(Just to set the tone: There was never any shouting, agitiation or ranting. Neither of us raised our voices or spoke rapidly.)
Then she said on the bed and again asked me to pay her money. Okay, I thought. This isn't going anywhere.
I gave her 400 baht and said off you go. [/B] She looked at the money and just shrugged.
[B]She demanded 1000 baht. [/B]I couldn't help thinking: "Does she do this every night, and get away with it?"
After a little while longer of just sitting there in the silence with her, considering my options. And realizing I had none. I gave her the 1000 baht.
So away she went, leaving me feeling very scammed[/B], but at least one experience richer.
Anything like this ever happened to you?
[B]What should I have done? What [I]could[/I] I have done? [/B]
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Bad experience with bar girl
[B]Okay, a small addition to the story about last night's scammer bar-girl.[/B]
I just realized, from looking at the bed sheets, that just got her period. She only had a wallet with her, so obviously she no tampons or whatnot.
Hmm, that explains some of her behavior, but still.
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[QUOTE=Stakeout;1105621][B][B]What should I have done? What [I]could[/I] I have done? [/B][/QUOTE]Only you can decide what you should have done but what you could have done was, no more drinking before the deed once you were in the room. You also could have been more assertive and not and not let her dictate when you'll do the deed. Had you insist on the customary night time first shot and she refused you could have sent her on her way without pay.
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[QUOTE=Stakeout;1105621]]Then it was time to hit the sack. [/B] First she showered, then me. When I got into bed with her she said she just wanted to sleep."I make boom boom in morning", she promised.[/QUOTE]This was the time to take action and offer her the door out. There are thousands more waiting outside and she knows that. Send her packing!
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Name the Bar
I bar fined a bar girl last night, we and 2 of her co workers went to disco, after a couple of drinks she gets phone call and takes off. Will name bar once I am out of here. Talked to Boss Lady but she seems to tolorate this BS.
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1105621][B]Last night I barfined this bar girl working near Walking Street. [/B] I had sat at her bar, bought a few drinks, both for her and me. She said she liked me and wanted to go with me, so off we went.
At my place she wanted to drink a few Bacardi Breezers on the balcony, which was no problem with me. Neither of us got drunk, just cheerful.
[B]Then it was time to hit the sack. [/B] First she showered, then me. When I got into bed with her she said she just wanted to sleep."I make boom boom in morning", she promised.
Okay, so when we woke up this morning she just said "I go now. Give me money".
[B]I was stunned. [/B] Since we hadn't had any sex whatsoever, I told her "No boom boom, no money". She just sat there looking a bit grumpy.
[B]Then she said she would call the Police! [/B]I asked her why."Up to me", she said. So she picked up the hotel-room phone, but didn't make a call. Obviously she was bluffing.
(Just to set the tone: There was never any shouting, agitiation or ranting. Neither of us raised our voices or spoke rapidly.)
Then she said on the bed and again asked me to pay her money. Okay, I thought. This isn't going anywhere.
I gave her 400 baht and said off you go. [/B] She looked at the money and just shrugged.
[B]She demanded 1000 baht. [/B]I couldn't help thinking: "Does she do this every night, and get away with it?"
After a little while longer of just sitting there in the silence with her, considering my options. And realizing I had none. I gave her the 1000 baht.
So away she went, leaving me feeling very scammed[/B], but at least one experience richer.
Anything like this ever happened to you?
[B]What should I have done? What [I]could[/I] I have done? [/B][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1105625][B]Okay, a small addition to the story about last night's scammer bar-girl. [/B]
I just realized, from looking at the bed sheets, that just got her period. She only had a wallet with her, so obviously she no tampons or whatnot.
Hmm, that explains some of her behavior, but still. [/QUOTE]She should have accommodated you with a BJ.
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Hail the conquering hero
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1105578]Sometimes you have to make your own fun. My wingmen and I were not impressed by the scene in AC, but we knew that once we arrived in Pattaya everything would be made all better.[/QUOTE]Mr E,
You are absolutely correct in your assessment of Pattaya vs. AC. And considering your success in having to fight off women a la Charlie Sheen's "I pay them to leave", are you taking on wingmen apprentices?
Cheers and happy new year! Looking forward to your more good posts from all.
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"The village of the damned"
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1104972]In my opinion Soi 6 is a good value. You get to choose from dozens and dozens of girls who stand outside the bars, allowing plenty of opportunity to find one you like without buying drinks or getting pressure from mamasans. Once you make your choice, in exchange for a 50 baht cola you can sit with the girl and gauge her mood and your chemistry. If you're interested you can go upstairs for a shower and a short time session in a modest (but clean) room. You'll pay 700 to the girl and 300 to the bar. All in, that's about USD $35.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Yeah, tried that too. But I found the girls / visitors ratio quite intimidating, felt like 50 to 1, pushing to hook me. So, I didn't feel like sitting among them, just picked the one who seemed nice and went to the hotel. Nice girl, but not hot at all, as I expected. Also, I have to say that most of the girks in soi 6 look like they are in their teens more than real women (don't get me wrong, I don't like MILF nor oldies, but not even schoolgirls like).
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1105578]Some guys are good with computers, and some are good in finance, while others have a way with women.[/QUOTE]It's easier to get a help in computers or finance for the ones who lack in these subject rather than in sex. Also, you can do without computer or you just can let some pro manage your money and stop worring about it, but sex is a constant need, so is easy to sympathize with the ones who suffer long privation and understand they look for the best they can get when they come to Pattaya.
And they go there for sex, not just for great time, like you say.
Maybe you have a natural gift or maybe your lifestile helps and you can play it easier, but most of the people here actually have an issue with women, one way or another, otherwise they wouldn't come to Pattaya.
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Why trouble with bargirls in Pattaya, when there are beautiful girls on Beach Road
My first time in Pattaya, I made also some mistakes: I barfined some bargirls. But after some of them cheated me and some of them tried to cheat me, so I dropped bargirls. Actually I quit to sit in any bar in Pattaya. Why trouble with bargirls in Pattaya, when there are beautiful girls on Beach Road. Just an example is the girl, who was satisfied with 500 Baht for ST. She told me, that she is 18 years young.)
Cheers!
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Word of warning
[QUOTE=Kim Wheather; 1106076]My first time in Pattaya, I made also some mistakes: I barfined some bargirls. But after some of them cheated me and some of them tried to cheat me, so I dropped bargirls. Actually I quit to sit in any bar in Pattaya. Why trouble with bargirls in Pattaya, when there are beautiful girls on Beach Road. Just an example is the girl, who was satisfied with 500 Baht for ST. She told me, that she is 18 years young.)
Cheers! [/QUOTE]There are relatively few genuinely 18 years old girls without babies who now operate from Beach Road. The majority of the girls without babies who say they are 18 will actually be 17 or 16 and be operating on Beach Road because they are too young to work in the bars. The police have made operating from BR such a hassle for the girls with the nightly roundups etc that its generally not the first choice for those with other options. Those with babies / stretch marks / quite a bit older which would lead to few bar fines may decided to operate from BR to get far more customers as do those who have gone down the drugs route. It's much more difficult than it once was to get real diamonds in the rough.
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Devils den
I am very surprised have none of you mongers gone to Devils Den, please let know how the place is I heard its a heaven, would request all the senior mongers to help here!
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Devil's Den
[QUOTE=Dered 1981;1106113]I am very surprised have none of you mongers gone to Devils Den, please let know how the place is I heard its a heaven, would request all the senior mongers to help here![/QUOTE]It sounds like English is not your first language so I will not mock what appears to be an odd question. I have been to Devil's Den as I am sure many other members here have been."Heaven" is a bit subjective but I will say that DD does what it is meant to do very well which is to provide a very good PSE in a place famous for its shy girls. For this service you pay a premium. Personally in general I prefer the option of LT more GFE for less money than 90 minutes in DD. That being said if you want a threesome with uninhibited girls it is an excellent option. It is one of the more expensive options in Pattaya but still reasonable compared to what you can find in many other places. I have only been to Pattaya once but imagine on future visits DD will be a once per trip luxury combined with beer bar and a go go LT take out and possibly the much cheaper soi 6 ST.
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Devils Den
[QUOTE=Dered 1981;1106113]I am very surprised have none of you mongers gone to Devils Den, please let know how the place is I heard its a heaven, would request all the senior mongers to help here![/QUOTE]I went to devils den around 3 weeks a go, worth every penny, I chose guy, even though she has a name like this, please don't let it put you off, she is amazing, and I let her choose a friend who I was also very happy with, it is a little pricey yes but you are guaranteed a super time with great girls.
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Other soapies
Can anyone tell me where the other 2 soapies are in Pattaya? I already know about the sabai Dee-Land-Room ones on second road. I read a report by Mr. Enternational (I think) a while back, but I can't find it. Anyway he explained it all, names locations and prices. Maybe if someone can tell me a name of the other two I can find it.
Thanks
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I found it. Thanks anyway
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 930167]This is Sabai Dee Room Body Massage. I stopped by today at 1:11 with two wingmen but it was too early. They do not open until 2pm. There was only one girl there and she was rather old. This is the cheapest soapie in Pattaya. 1500 baht.
This would be Sabailand Body Massage. It is right on the corner of 2nd Road and Soi 3 next to a disco / gogo bar. The address is 102/1 Soi 3 North Pattaya. We arrived there today at 1:20 and had sessions. There were about 10 girls in the fishbowl at this time. The damage was 1600 baht for 90 minutes. Soapies are not my thing. Once you have had one then the novelty is gone.
There is one more soapie in this vicinity. As a matter of fact, if you blink you will probably miss it, as I did today. It is called Sabai Dee Body Massage. The address is 435/52 Moo 9, Pattaya 2nd Road. Big C's address is 78/1, Moo. 9, Pattaya 2nd Road. The lot numbers look far away for some reason but it is really only a stone's throw. At 1800 baht this is the 3rd cheapest soapie in Pattaya.
The fourth soapie is Heaven which is on Sukhumvit. The address is 149/352 Moo 9 Sukhumvit Road. Going down Central Pattaya Road as if you wanted to leave Pattaya, you would take a right onto Sukhumvit. Heaven is located on the left, directly next to the 7-Eleven you see after you make the turn. Sessions here are about 2000 baht.
The fifth and only other soapie that I know of is P. P. Body Massage. It is off of 3rd Road. The address is 92/26-28 Moo 9, Soi Jirapol, Pattaya 3rd Road. It is the most expensive. This is the one that has one price for the girls with blue tags and another for the girls with red tags. They have brand new rooms in what appears to be a new four-story apartment building right across the parking lot from the main building where the fishbowl is. If you get the more expensive girl you get to use a new room. If you get the cheaper girl you have to use the old rooms in the main building. [/QUOTE]
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4 Great Nights in Pattaya
Recently spent 4 out of 6 nights in Pattaya. The other two nights I was in the "Middle of Nowhere" because of Dang's birthday. I will never do that again!
During the evenings, Dang stayed in the room, and I went out to play and here are my thoughts:
Fahrenheit Go-Go: I never seen this place before so I thought I would check it out. Around 9 there was a good crowd in there and I noticed there were signs concerning ping pong balls. My first thought was they were going to shoot the balls from their snatches; but that was not the case. I was told to buy the balls and throw or give them to one of the girls and they get 10B, and the ball is 20B. This is how the sign read:
1 Ball. 20 Baht.
5 Balls. 100 Baht.
Now I'm not math wizard or business genius, but what is the incentive here to buy 5? Surely one should get 6 or 7 balls for a 100; bad marketing for sure.
Alcatraz Go-Go: Another place I haven't seen before. This place has a lot of potential; too bad, because there were just a few customers. The place has a great design with cell-blocks and such. Somebody put some serious money into this place. For the voyeur, there is a glass window that you can look into the club while standing at the urinal in the restroom.
Baccara Go-Go: This is one of my favorite clubs in the world. I just sit in one of the big chairs and enjoy life. It seems like all the clubs are doing the ping pong ball thing as well. So I got 5 and was trying to figure out where to throw one. It seemed like the bottom stage got enough attention, so my dumb ass decided to throw one of the balls to the top stage. When the ball quickly returned and hit me on the head, I then realized that there was glass above my head as well. So I went up the stairs and decided to throw all 5 balls on the stage at the same time. OMG, those girls looked like football players going after a fumble! I thought I was going to start a small riot. My next thought was: 10 balls next time.
Angel Witch: When entering, there was a red laser light at my feet and was motioned by a woman in order to get a seat, it turned out to be Mamasan; a pretty Mamasan at that. We chatted for a bit while I watched a few shows. Nothing was really of interest; so I moved on after a couple of drinks.
X-Zone: I spent time in this club every night that I was in Pattaya; love the place, staff, dancers, and performers. When I first walked in, I was greeted by Mamasan with open arms. Then she said,"Welcome back, screwdriver and tequila, right?" There is something about fisting two girls at the same time while one of the servers is rubbing your cock from behind that I seem to enjoy. I ran directly into the "Buck Wild" lady that I short timed in August; found out that she is Korean. During the 4 nights, I barfined one server. 700B, and one dancer and one performer; 800B each. And because Dang was in the room, I used a short-time hotel for 300B that was close by the bar.
The first night in the X-Zone, Mamasan introduced me to a few of her new girls. Two of the girls were 20 year old twins! Very cute, but inexperienced. After I returned from the "Middle of Nowhere" and was walking to the X-Zone, I noticed the twins walking with a customer with another girl as well. Mamasan was excited to share more news, no longer were there twins, but now it was triplets! I really wanted to barfine the triplets and play naked Twister (came with the room) in the suite, but I could not get Dang to go back to her bar; damn the bad luck!
The last night in the X-Zone, I came back to the bar with one of the dancers that I barfined and took to the short-time hotel. This is when I met the owner and his son. The owner did confirm that the X-Zone was for sale due to personal reasons. At that point I felt like breaking out the check-book and credit cards, but I was able to reason with myself. The owner was buying tequila shots and at about 3 am, things just got really silly. The owner's son grabbed me and he was carrying two buckets of ping pong balls and a ping pong paddle and we headed upstairs (I never notices the stairs before) and gave me the paddle to me while he threw balls my way. I will admit that I missed half of them; but still had fun watching the girls scramble for the balls that I did hit.
I did notice a new club called Walking Street located on, yes indeed, Walking Street; what genius came up with this name. I tried to enter, but the bouncers at the door said I could not go in because I was wearing shorts. Dress standards in Pattaya, WTF?
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House Rules
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1106201]Fahrenheit Go-Go: I never seen this place before so I thought I would check it out. Around 9 there was a good crowd in there and I noticed there were signs concerning ping pong balls. My first thought was they were going to shoot the balls from their snatches; but that was not the case. I was told to buy the balls and throw or give them to one of the girls and they get 10B, and the ball is 20B. This is how the sign read:
1 Ball. 20 Baht.
5 Balls. 100 Baht.
Now I'm not math wizard or business genius, but what is the incentive here to buy 5? Surely one should get 6 or 7 balls for a 100; bad marketing for sure.
[/QUOTE]Maybe, but following your logic of offering 7 balls for 100B and the girls getting 10B per ball the house would only receive 30B and the girl or girls 70B.
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1106201]I did notice a new club called Walking Street located on, yes indeed, Walking Street; what genius came up with this name. I tried to enter, but the bouncers at the door said I could not go in because I was wearing shorts. Dress standards in Pattaya, WTF?
[/QUOTE]Yesterday I went back from Pattaya, where I spent 1 month. And it sounds very strange, that the bouncers at the door refused you to enter, just because you were wearing shorts. I entered to that club called "Walking Street" many times while I was wearing shorts, slippers and an athletic T-shirt. I was never stopped at the door.
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1106201]. For the voyeur, there is a glass window that you can look into the club while standing at the urinal in the restroom.
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[/QUOTE]I trust you refer to a one way see through window.
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[QUOTE=Edward M;1106121]It sounds like English is not your first language so I will not mock what appears to be an odd question. I have been to Devil's Den as I am sure many other members here have been."Heaven" is a bit subjective but I will say that DD does what it is meant to do very well which is to provide a very good PSE in a place famous for its shy girls. For this service you pay a premium. Personally in general I prefer the option of LT more GFE for less money than 90 minutes in DD. That being said if you want a threesome with uninhibited girls it is an excellent option. It is one of the more expensive options in Pattaya but still reasonable compared to what you can find in many other places. I have only been to Pattaya once but imagine on future visits DD will be a once per trip luxury combined with beer bar and a go go LT take out and possibly the much cheaper soi 6 ST.[/QUOTE]Ed, can you be more specific and list some prices for ST / LT session in D. D. Please?
Is a takeout option available and how much is it to barfine a girl?
Last, within the 90 mins session inside the club are you allowed to have multiple shots or if you end, say in 20 mins, is either game-over or buy another session?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1106304]Ed, can you be more specific and list some prices for ST / LT session in D. D. Please?
Is a takeout option available and how much is it to barfine a girl?
Last, within the 90 mins session inside the club are you allowed to have multiple shots or if you end, say in 20 mins, is either game-over or buy another session?
Thanks! [/QUOTE]Go to there website Devilsden / Pattaya for all of their info included current photo's of the girls that are working there.
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X zone for sale, Dam
Tomjackin, Enjoyed your report. I was in Xzone a year ago. Havn't returned to Pattaya but x zone was definately one of my favorites. I sure do hope that who ever buys it keeps the same enviroment going. I plan on returning this year to review some memories and add to those that I have with me.
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From Bangkok to Pattaya
Is it possible to catch a train or bus directly from airport suvaranburni or doeng muang to Pattaya nowadays?
Or are there only taxis?
I'm going to fly with air asia or 12go, airasia use suvarnaburni while 12go use doeng muang. 12 go is a bit cheaper so I might fly with them if the communication to Pattaya are good.
Thanks
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Bus and taxi
[QUOTE=Robin Wood; 1106456]Is it possible to catch a train or bus directly from airport suvaranburni or doeng muang to Pattaya nowadays?
Or are there only taxis?
I'm going to fly with air asia or 12go, airasia use suvarnaburni while 12go use doeng muang. 12 go is a bit cheaper so I might fly with them if the communication to Pattaya are good.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Stay away from DM airport. Too far away from Patts. If I land in BKK before 5pm I use Bell Travel service (google it) 350 baht to your hotel via bus and shared van. If I land after 5pm then I use [url]www.pattayataxi.info.[/url] 1000 baht to your hotel directly via taxi. This includes the toll fee. The bus takes about 90 min to get to Pattaya bus terminal and then shared van to hotel. Taxi is about 90 direct to hotel
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[QUOTE=Robin Wood; 1106456]Is it possible to catch a train or bus directly from airport suvaranburni or doeng muang to Pattaya nowadays?
Or are there only taxis?
I'm going to fly with air asia or 12go, airasia use suvarnaburni while 12go use doeng muang. 12 go is a bit cheaper so I might fly with them if the communication to Pattaya are good.
Thanks[/QUOTE]There are two bus services bell (bt 200) and the Pattaya bus ending up in jontien (I get out on sulumvit Pattaya klang gt 124). Both are esay and fast. The last one at 9 pm I believe. If you goolge suv-Pattaya bus you should find info.
To get the bus go to 1st level exit 8 or nine near magic food and the airport bus nto BKK.
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[QUOTE=Robin Wood; 1106456]Is it possible to catch a train or bus directly from airport suvaranburni or doeng muang to Pattaya nowadays?
Or are there only taxis?
I'm going to fly with air asia or 12go, airasia use suvarnaburni while 12go use doeng muang. 12 go is a bit cheaper so I might fly with them if the communication to Pattaya are good.
Thanks[/QUOTE]There are two bus services bell (bt 200) and the Pattaya bus ending up in jontien (I get out on sukumvit Pattaya klang. Bt 124). Both are easy and fast. The last one at 9 pm I believe. If you goolge suv-Pattaya bus you should find info.
To get the bus go to 1st level exit 8 or nine near magic food and the airport bus into BKK.
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[QUOTE=Beaverhunter;1106381]Go to there website Devilsden / Pattaya for all of their info included current photo's of the girls that are working there.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Very detailled indeed. Is there any other go-go displaying a website of their own like this?
Anyway, no indication wheter you can make single / multiple shots within the 90 minutes. Anything about it you can you tell me?
Also, still I don't know distance between D. D. And my hotel but it seems much cheaper to take the girl out in your own place rather than jammin' there.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1106763]............... I don't know distance between D. D. And my hotel but it seems much cheaper to take the girl out in your own place rather than jammin' there.[/QUOTE]Pattaya is so compact that if say you are living anywhere between walking street up to center Pattaya Road. DD is no more than 10-20min walk. Maybe another reference point. From Mike Mall come out on the second Road side. 10mins walk absolute tops.
Mtg
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Devils Den
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1106763]Thanks. Very detailled indeed. Is there any other go-go displaying a website of their own like this?
Anyway, no indication wheter you can make single / multiple shots within the 90 minutes. Anything about it you can you tell me?
Also, still I don't know distance between D. D. And my hotel but it seems much cheaper to take the girl out in your own place rather than jammin' there. [/QUOTE]I was there three weeks ago. You can do as many shots as you can in the allotted time.
Overall, I liked the place. The owner / manager is very professional and speaks perfect English.
I had written down several names of girls to see from reviews on another site. He was amused by this.
Here is the funny part. I picked a well-reviewed girl from the anal side and a stunner from the non-anal side. Honestly, there weren't any stunners on the anal side.
I no longer remember the name of the anal girl. The stunner's name was Sonya, and Sonya was in fact fantastic.
After doing anal with the one girl, I found her kind of bossy and really wanted her to just vanish while I devoured Sonya. So much for the research. I'm really not into two girls at a time and I wish this place offerred shorter incall one-girl sessions.
Outcall is offerred for one girl at a time. The owner / manager promised to accomodate me, but I ended up doing so many short-time incall sessions at the various beer bars that I never got back there. If I am ever in Pattaya again, I will repeat at Devils Den. I imagine there are generally stunners on the anal side, and I just got there at a bad time.
I am planning to do some reviews of a Bangkok escort service I liked a lot. But comparing Pattaya go-gos and beer halls to Bangkok massage parlours and soapies, I really preferred Pattaya. It is so compact that the search for 8s and 9s was always successful and not all that time consuming. The less than 8s are good natured about being politely looked over and rejected. Sure the stunners cost more, but still much, much less than in the western world. The Bangkok non-escort scene is just to spread out for my tastes.
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Stunners & Threesome
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;1106848]Outcall is offerred for one girl at a time. The owner / manager promised to accomodate me, but I ended up doing so many short-time incall sessions at the various beer bars that I never got back there. If I am ever in Pattaya again, I will repeat at Devils Den. I imagine there are generally stunners on the anal side, and I just got there at a bad time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. It was interesting and I will surely try Sonya if I catch her.
Any other go-go or beer bar you reccomend for stunners?
Different from you, I am not much into anal (and when I do it I enjoy big asses, not tiny thai ones) and I am eager to make a threesome (firstimer in that).
Any other user can provide some tips about the best way to arrange one?
Bye
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1106763]Thanks. Very detailled indeed. Is there any other go-go displaying a website of their own like this?
Anyway, no indication wheter you can make single / multiple shots within the 90 minutes. Anything about it you can you tell me?
Also, still I don't know distance between D. D. And my hotel but it seems much cheaper to take the girl out in your own place rather than jammin' there. [/QUOTE]You can blow as much as you can within 90 minutes. According to the manager the record is 6 shots fired in 90 minutes which I kind of find hard to beleive. The guy must be dead by now. The manager whose name I don't remember at this moment is a nice guy and very knowlegeable to me anyway being a first timer 2 months ago.
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Yep!
I love your perspective. I think the guys who can only get women by paying for it are rather sad. Couple that with sex addiction, and it can be a recipe for a very unhappy person.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1105578]Sometimes you have to make your own fun. If you are just sitting around waiting for someone to drop a ton of fun in your lap then it won't happen. Since I don't believe in bar fines and I don't drink much then I don't do bars and agogos. I am strictly freelance and non-pro. Sure I might stroll down Soi 6 and talk shit but I have no intention of going with any of them until they are off the clock and at such time turn into freelance. I will have them call later or meet me at the disco. You have to remember a bar girl or an agogo dancer is expected by the establishment to produce. Their primary purpose is to separate you from your money as quickly and efficiently as they can. Disco girls in Pattaya on the other hand are not under so much pressure. They are mostly out having a good time in hopes of making a few baht while they are at it. We have even fucked chicks from discos that did not want any money from us.
Many guys go to Pattaya looking for sex. I just go to simply have a great time. As I tell non-pros all around the world when they go into the spill about they are not going to fuck me because they want more than sex, etc, etc. I can fuck anybody. Why do I need to fuck you? I can go down to spot XYZ and pay 20K pesos. 20 soles, $10, 15 reais and so on if I just want to fuck somebody. Pussy has never been a problem for me. Getting a nice woman who I genuinely enjoy being around and who is not full of shit is the problem. Take for instance today. I am in Accra, Ghana. This morning at 11am I met a young lady who works in a stall at the crafts market. She came by my hotel at 6pm when she got off work. We laid in the bed together talking, she let me suck on her very perky tits, then she went home. And this girl is a non-pro who I have never laid eyes on until today. There is an inexhaustible supply of pussy on this planet. There is no need to go after it like a hound. Just sit back and let it cozy up to you.
As the saying goes YMMV. Everyone can't be Deuce Bigelow or Leon Phelps. You just have to play the hand that you were given. Some guys are good with computers, and some are good in finance, while others have a way with women. It really trips me out when guys talk about pros in Pattaya or AC that would not stay the time they were supposed to and think I'm full of shit when I say it is hard for me and my wingmen to get them to leave. But that is really all we are used to. Another thing I find funny is when guys say the women are not up to their standard. You mean out of thousands of women you can't find 1. Forget thousands. We will just say out of hundreds on Beach Road alone you can not find 1 that meets your standards? Shit in Pattaya even a woman can find a woman. I don't know who these guys have been fucking back home all of their lives. They must live in a city full of Angelina Jolies or something.
I say just find someone who you will be satisfied with fucking and enjoy hanging out with until one that you just got to stick your dick in solely based on your stunner criteria comes along. Then transfer to the other train. But beware, everything that glitters is not gold. That is another way guys are going wrong. They go into the agogos and beer bars where the "show" must go on. Then they get back to the hotel and find out they have a dud or a starfish. A good example is my ex girlfriend in Peru. She is a TV personality. At work she has to deal with all these people and really appears to be a sociable person. But in reality she is a loner and hates being around people. One is the "show / work" her but the real one is the her when the cameras go off and she leaves the studio. So don't be pulled in by glitz and glamor. It may be only temporary and / or work-induced.
As far as non-pros go I used to get on TLL before I made a trip to Thailand. I was pretty successful on the site too. (I am reminiscing about a hairstylist my first time in Pattaya who literally begged me to cum in her mouth.) Out of the at least 12 girls that I have met in person from the site there were only 2 that I didn't fuck. One was a bartender on the Artist Soi in BKK. And even still she spent the night with me. The other was a divorced mom with 2 kids. She picked me up from the Nana Hotel in her Jeep Cherokee and all but I was a bit too fast for her. I don't even go on those websites anymore. I have found that it is so easy to cold pull the non-pros all over Pattaya that there is no need. Not many refuse to go to the beach together, have a drink, or do lunch.
Whatever you are into Pattaya will offer it to you on steroids. If anyone should leave that place disappointed then maybe they were just not doing something right. My wingmen and I were not impressed by the scene in AC, but we knew that once we arrived in Pattaya everything would be made all better.[/QUOTE]
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Robin Wood
[QUOTE=Robin Wood; 1106456]Is it possible to catch a train or bus directly from airport suvaranburni or doeng muang to Pattaya nowadays?
Or are there only taxis?
I'm going to fly with air asia or 12go, airasia use suvarnaburni while 12go use doeng muang. 12 go is a bit cheaper so I might fly with them if the communication to Pattaya are good.
Thanks[/QUOTE]If I was you I would rethink about 1 to go.
I never see aney one line up at the air port in Thailand to get on it
After the one that did not land so good at Phuket.
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1106201]I did notice a new club called Walking Street located on, yes indeed, Walking Street; what genius came up with this name. I tried to enter, but the bouncers at the door said I could not go in because I was wearing shorts. Dress standards in Pattaya, WTF?
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[/QUOTE]Great report Tom. You would have been one in a billion if you had your way with triplets.:D. Common who gets that, we heard about twins but not triplets. Thats very rare.
When I watch youtube videos on walking street. 90% of the guys are in shorts. They don't want anyone with wearing shorts is weird and bad for the business.
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[quote=mackin;1106420]tomjackin, enjoyed your report. i was in xzone a year ago. havn't returned to pattaya but x zone was definately one of my favorites. i sure do hope that who ever buys it keeps the same enviroment going. i plan on returning this year to review some memories and add to those that i have with me.[/quote]agree, i hope to make it back to the x-zone in the spring, and hopefully the debauchery is still in place.
[quote=bionicman;1106259]i trust you refer to a one way see through window.[/quote]i only looked from the urinal looking out. i thought about looking from the other side, but thought somebody else might be at one of the urinals and they would think i was trying to get a peep. so, i don't really know if it is a one way window or not.
[quote=kim wheather;1106257]yesterday i went back from pattaya, where i spent 1 month. and it sounds very strange, that the bouncers at the door refused you to enter, just because you were wearing shorts. i entered to that club called "walking street" many times while i was wearing shorts, slippers and an athletic t-shirt. i was never stopped at the door.[/quote]i tried to get in this place twice on two different nights, and both times i was told i could not go in the club wearing shorts. maybe it is some new rule. either way, when i looked inside, the place seemed dead.
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[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1105621][B]
[B]What should I have done? What [I]could[/I] I have done? [/B][/QUOTE]Call hotel Security and tell them that this lady has extended her welcome. As far as the hotel is concerned (well, assuming you don't stay in the shabby places) you are their customer so they won't care about the girl.
Also, you could go talk with the Mamasan at the Bar, if the bar is legit, they will give you back your Barfine (that the girl will have to re-pay).
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SH's gogo question
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1104060]Yes, I guess a place like these barely exists, but maybe good old veterans here can suggest the closest ones to my criteria. PM accepted as well.[/QUOTE]Well, I am not an old veteran of Pattaya as I actually have spent less time there than you but since you PMed me this question I will respond. I will respond here since I believe the forum should be about sharing information with everyone.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]Soon I will be in Pattaya for the second time. My last year experience was only 50% good to me.
Being on a limited budget, I bypassed go-gos and experienced most freelancers and some bar-girls. [/QUOTE]Considering the route you took (FLers, beer bars) 50% is about the best you can expect. My experience with beer bar girls is that they are VERY shy. They require more effort on your part to get them to open up. If you do not mind putting this work in over many hours you can be rewarded though with some nice GFE. This will depend more on your personality than theirs. If you are shy or not assertive than this will be a tough way to go. For FLers, which I have never pulled in Pattaya but I have in other places, the same responsibility on your part will apply. Also, FLers will be more variable in their performance and personality.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]Some were cute, some not much, many were shy and sex was nothing hot, after all (poor bbbjs and no cim).[/QUOTE]If CIM is important to you than you should talk about that upfront before you take them. Again, this will depend on your personality and the chemistry you have together. Gogo girls will be cuter than beer bar girls on average but I think some girls work the beer bars because they are too shy to be gogos. None of the gogo girls that I pulled were willing to do CIM but I did not mention it until later. In fact one of them at first wanted to do a CBJ but then relented to BB.
Although gogo girls will be a little bit cuter than beer bar girls there are a lot of beer bar girls that could work in gogos but are too shy. Still, gogo girls may be shyer than what you are used to if you have been to places like Latin America (especially Brazil).
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]Plus, a lot of wasted time hunting for a cuty, hitting walking street and hopping from bar to bar.
This year, I would like to work more focused and take my payback. Therefore I would definitely try some go-go too.
Same budget, just spread it over 2 weeks only instead of 3: no time and no cash to waste though. [/QUOTE]One thing you can do to improve your hunting and budget is to get off of Walking Street. The girls and bars there tend to want more money because of their location. As for wasting time, what is the waste in hitting a bunch of bars and seeing hot girls dance? Just walk into a bar, look around for a minute, and if nothing interests you, walk out. There will be another go go within 20 feet with girls beckoning you in.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]1) Hot babes. To justify the extra cost of a go-go club I need the girl to be cute, skilled and sexually inclined to some pse. Important also to be affordable, not to be wild on stage and shy in the bedroom or to have to negotiate too much on performance.[/QUOTE]The best way to gauge this is to talk to her and explain what you are looking for. Let her work to woo you, not the other way around. Also, gogos are a great place to play with the girl and get grabby. Of course, you will need to buy her a lady drink but where else can you have that much fun for $3. 50?
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]2) Price. Ok, I can afford spending a little more, but I wouldn't be very happy with a 2. 000 ST / 3. 000 LT plus 500 BF bath offer. There must be a better value.[/QUOTE]I only did LT. I paid between 1500 and 2000. I also think it helps with the LT rate to go later in the night although a friend has suggested to me that many of the hotter ones will already be barfined by that point even if they are still there. Personally, I do not want the girl that is in super high demand as that will tend to lead to higher price and worse performance. I prefer a cute girl (or perhaps one with features different than what is normally considered "beautiful") that will work to impress me.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]Also, I don't like to bargain, or being be pushed by mamasans, or pressed to buy ladydrinks. I am glad to pay what is fair and that's it.[/QUOTE]If you don't like to bargain then talk to the mamasan. Tell her what you are willing to pay and she will accomodate you. This has the advantage of you not having to talk money with the girl keeping your interaction friendlier. I had two mamasans show me a card with "2000 ST / 3000 LT" written on it and another one told me the LT tip was 3000. I simply said,"No. That is too much." and they quickly agreed to 1500 (off WS) and 1800/2000 (WS). Remember the Golden Rule: whomever has the gold makes the rules. Be nice in the negotiations. If the mama is particularly helpful you can buy her a drink or give her a tip. I have a rule in the gogo. No dancer gets a drink without me grabbing her tits, getting a look at her pussy, and grabbing her ass. The mamas are usually dressed more formally so make sure you at least grab her ass if you tip her. Note: I never tipped a mama but have tipped / bought drinks for girls when I was barhopping with a girl I pulled out the night before. This was a lot of fun for not much money. I had fingers up two of her friends at once and they did not want to go away. The probably stayed 20-30 minutes per drink I bought them with vigorous lap dancing, fondling, DFK, etc and the girl I came with started to get jealous after a while. Definitely better than spending $20 for a 2 minute song in a US strip bar.
Also, and this is important, do not pay the girl tip at the bar. I had a few mamasans ask me to do that. Always pay directly to the girl at the end.
Also, the mamasans tend to speak better English than the girls so you can explain any particular performance you are looking for. You will not need to worry about enaging the mama. If they see you with a girl they will saunter by and ask if everything is ok if there is no action. Near closing I had a few ask if I would barfine the girl I was with. This is a good time to negotiate.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1104060]3) Envirnoment. Again, I don't go there to party in the venue but just to pick the best looking girl at cheaper price, so I am not interested in shows or anything else. I just like the sit down for a while until I make my choice, so I would enjoy the place to be as much relaxed as possible (I avoid discos also because crowded, dark and loud).[/QUOTE]Most of the bars will leave you alone and let you relax while making your decision. Again, remember the Golden Rule. If people are bothering you tell them to get lost. If that doesn't work go to the next bar 20 feet away. I would not, however, just sit there until you see one you like and leave with her. Call her over, buy her a drink, feel her up, and most importantly, talk to her. If you just see one and say "Let's go" you are setting yourself up for a lackluster performance.
Although I hesitate to recommend a particular bar, Superbaby and Supergirl may be what you are looking for. They tend to cater to the Asian tourist that wants to be left alone and then pick a stone-faced girl for a by the numbers performance. I never went to Supergirl but I went to Superbaby a few times and they have the same management. The girls in Superbaby will not interact with you in any way until you call them over. They have a nice hot tub show going on right next to the bar and even though these girls might be one foot away from you they will barely make eye contact. I did not enquire to any prices but heard they would be higher than most other places in the WS area. The girls were cute but that is always in the eye of the beholder. I like to see the dancers smiling and having a good time so this place did not really appeal to me (along with the reported higher prices) but next trip I will probably go back and see what I can negotiate.
If you do not want to put out the effort to negotiate and work things out than maybe Devil's Den is the way to go. Again you will pay a premium but you can look on their site to see what acts will be available before you go there. I believe CIM is standard for all of the girls there. I went there once for an in-house session with 2 girls and it was great although it cost 3600. I took a girl overnight from there as well for 3500 but found that the outcall service was not as enthusiastic as the incall. That and the fact that I was paying 1000 more than normal for an 8 hour earlier than normal departure bothered me so I did not go that route again.
Something that I did on my first trip which helped a lot was hanging out in a beer bar during the day and chatting up the other punters. The can give inside info and give you a wingman. Like my suggestion about negotiating with the mama you can have a friend negotiate for you and he can ask all of the embarrassing questions and play hard-ball with the money without you being directly involved. I negotiated a beer bar girl LT for 500 once for this guy. Unfortunately I was too shagged out and he was too drunk to negotiate for me but the possibility is there if you are an outgoing guy that wants to have fun.
If I have a point here it is what the girls often say,"Up to you." You have to know what you want and be prepared to go out and get it. The particular bar is not important.
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What.
I was just in the penthouse site to make a booking for April.
I have never seen this befor.
After the room rate there was an on line free of $ 390 THB.
Then there was an Relevant Sevice Charge of $ 884 THB.
THEN a Relevant Government Charge of $ 681 THB.
That is now up to $ 1, 955 THB on top of the room rate.
And I all way book my room on line.
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Walking St. Disco
[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1107310]Great report Tom. You would have been one in a billion if you had your way with triplets. Common who gets that, we heard about twins but not triplets. Thats very rare.
When I watch youtube videos on walking street. 90% of the guys are in shorts. They don't want anyone with wearing shorts is weird and bad for the business. [/QUOTE]The club racially profiles from what I can tell. Last week I walked straight in while the Middle Easterner next to me was told membership was required. @9:00 pm there were maybe 80 ladies and 20 guys but started to even out later. Time before 2 Russkie couples near us were told 2 drink min. It seems Russians, East Indians, Persian and Arabs are not wanted in some of these clubs because they don't spend enough. I have over heard the doormen telling Russians no sandals but I always wear them there with shorts and sleeveless t. Shirts.
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Spanishboy 29
Walking St. Disco I was in Pattaya in November time for 1 mounth, I never pay more end 600 bath too a girl, why spend so much money 2000 or 3000 bath for couples hours is farang ding dong ).
I was in walking street disco every night from 2300-2400 is a small bar a lot of freelancers, they have the best dj I hear, they play more Rnb music and house, is a no smoking bar but it a small place, but is agood place before you move on to another place. In this club they have face control and dress control no short, no india no arabic.
I don't like to hang out in go go all day or sit all the bar all day and here all the girl say I like only you and I love only you because you are farang ding dong, you need to be a fighter not a chicken you need to find them in shoppingcenter or fitness center or in nightclub, you need to be a butterfly, you will have a lot of fun. The best in Pattaya is find a guest house with safebox no hotel more end 1000 bath is farang ding dong. All guest house is girlfriendly, not every hotel is this is between 300. 500 bath is debend of hotel policy.
Pattaya is the cheapers place I have ever been, I have been a lot in ukraine and russia, and all europe. Pattaya is the best place for fun, is a not familly place. Ukraine and russia is the most beautiful girl, and brazil is the most sexy girl in the world. Play safe and smart and dress the best you will get any girl in any place.
I will be in Pattaya from 17 feb to 13 marts if any one need a profesional wingmann so I am with you.
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Whats better?
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[QUOTE=Beaverhunter;1107189]You can blow as much as you can within 90 minutes. According to the manager the record is 6 shots fired in 90 minutes which I kind of find hard to beleive. The guy must be dead by now..[/QUOTE]Not too hard to believe as I've once did 6 loads in about 90min with my college GF. But, I was 20 or 21 at the time and hormone levels were high and at that age a slight wind blowing through my pants got me hard. Easier to do at the prime of one's life. Today, I'm happy to get a hard on standing outside in a hurricaine and 2 shots over an entire night is all I can ask for.
BTW: I'm still alive-ha ha.
FZ
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[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1108040]The club racially profiles from what I can tell.[/QUOTE]To my surprize I was stopped the door of Tahitian Queen gogo on Beach Road for the first time yesterday. Maybe my beard didn't go down well with the door hag.
There are a few new gogos popping up and quite a lot of closed ones. Strange time for a gogo to be closed. On soi 7 there's a brand new one next door to Silver Star. A cheaply done vibe-less place with few girls, drinks at 130b. Avoid.
On Walking St new ones include Alcatraz, big and elaborate but not much of a vibe last night, and Fahrenheit next door, which was much hotter, better feel, lots of girls. I'm not sure if this one is new, but it's big and I don't remember seeing it before.
Sakura and Fun Room are two of the closed ones.
Soi 6 didn't look great, I found a sweet pompui 19yo one day, but the next day she had gone home. Unshaved and untrimmed bush, big tits as firm as can be. Healthy farmer's daughter. Reason to live.
A baht bus driver ripped me off 20 baht when giving change for a 100. But my guest house charged me 500 baht instead of 600 on the second night, I guess the desk auntie didn't remember about the high season price. The one scams me, the other one scams herself. Mai pen rai.
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Oh, some more inconsequential anecdotes. I went to the SCB branch in Central Festival. All the counter staff were girls, a touch plump as Thai girls tend to get if they don't need to be lean and hungry, but cute nonetheless, especially the one serving me. One cheekily asked me something in Thai and was quite abashed when I answered in Thai, and turned a lot more chatty and friendly. Amongst themselves they were talking about going to party at Differ. At the same time, some couriers came for a wall of cash, about 20 bricks of 1000-baht notes. 100k is about 1cm, so a brick must be about a million. So just to keep in mind that if you are partying at Differ (or wherever) , the girl might just be used to handling stacks of 20 million baht, and not impressed by a couple of 1000. But it also reminds one that the bank girls are up for a party!
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1108513]Oh, some more inconsequential anecdotes. I went to the SCB branch in Central Festival. All the counter staff were girls, a touch plump as Thai girls tend to get if they don't need to be lean and hungry, but cute nonetheless, especially the one serving me. One cheekily asked me something in Thai and was quite abashed when I answered in Thai, and turned a lot more chatty and friendly. Amongst themselves they were talking about going to party at Differ. At the same time, some couriers came for a wall of cash, about 20 bricks of 1000-baht notes. 100k is about 1cm, so a brick must be about a million. So just to keep in mind that if you are partying at Differ (or wherever) , the girl might just be used to handling stacks of 20 million baht, and not impressed by a couple of 1000. But it also reminds one that the bank girls are up for a party![/QUOTE]Hehehe. Reminds me a of Fat girl I fucked (live on Camfrog) and she was working in a Bank. She actually was the one that offered me a gift.
I am sure the Report of that encounter is still buried here somewhere. .
Bank girls are indeed up for some fun.
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Visit pattayua
[QUOTE=Spanishboy 29; 1108072]Walking St. Disco I was in Pattaya in November time for 1 mounth, I never pay more end 600 bath too a girl, why spend so much money 2000 or 3000 bath for couples hours is farang ding dong.
Pattaya is the cheapers place I have ever been, I have been a lot in ukraine and russia, and all europe. Pattaya is the best place for fun, is a not familly place. Ukraine and russia is the most beautiful girl, and brazil is the most sexy girl in the world. Play safe and smart and dress the best you will get any girl in any place.
I will be in Pattaya from 17 feb to 13 marts if any one need a profesional wingmann so I am with you. [/QUOTE]I will be there maybe the end of feb? Not sure dates. I bring my filipina girl but she loves thai girls also.
So maybe a little more difficult but we can hook up for a drink or? And of course always happy to find girls and
Team up for the hunting. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Spanishboy 29;1108072]Pattaya is the cheapers place I have ever been, I have been a lot in ukraine and russia, and all europe. Pattaya is the best place for fun, is a not familly place. Ukraine and russia is the most beautiful girl, and brazil is the most sexy girl in the world.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Thanks for your opinion. I will be in Pattaya in different dates so we cannot meet.
I tried to pm you because I didn't want to write off-topic here, but you seem not operating.
Thing is what you wrote about Ukraine / Russia and Brazil got my attention because both are my future dream trips.
I would be interested in knowing more, so if you are available to share some tips on these locations please tell me how to keep in communication with you and I will contact you further on when I will start planning my next journey.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Edward M;1107657]Well, I am not an old veteran of Pattaya as I actually have spent less time there than you but since you PMed me this question I will respond. I will respond here since I believe the forum should be about sharing information with everyone.[/QUOTE]Of course! Message pmed had already been posted in public, I just forwarded this to some of you just because I wasn't getting many replies and I assumed the most missed it.
And thank you very much for your detailled answer: I took note of your Golden Rules.
[QUOTE=Edward M; 1107657]Also, gogos are a great place to play with the girl and get grabby. Of course, you will need to buy her a lady drink but where else can you have that much fun for $3. 50?
Be nice in the negotiations. If the mama is particularly helpful you can buy her a drink or give her a tip. [/QUOTE]Just for the record: how frequently are you asked or induced to buy a ladydrink? And what happens if you decline? I mean, it is something under your control or an unwritten rule that since you are sitting there you are supposed to buy drinks around the clock if you want to be treated?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1106201]X-Zone: I spent time in this club every night that I was in Pattaya; love the place, staff, dancers, and performers.[/QUOTE]Don't know X-ZONE. Is it a disco club or a proper go-go?
Can you give address and some prices please (BF, ST / LT)?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1109046]Don't know X-ZONE. Is it a disco club or a proper go-go?
Can you give address and some prices please (BF, ST / LT)?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
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The X-Zone is a club that has go-go dancers, but also have a couple of stages where women perform sex acts on each other. And usually customers will also join in; pure family entertainment!
Barfines for servers was 700B, dancers and performers was 800B. You still have to negotiate a price for ST or LT with the lady. The place also has short time rooms in the club. One of the rooms has a large window (two or one way) where you can look out and enjoy the club while getting service in the room. Short time in the bar was 2000B.
I attached a great bar hopping map so you can find the place. It is number 2 on the go-go list.
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One of the rooms has a large window (two or one way) where you can look out and enjoy the club while getting service in the room. [/QUOTE]I can imagine that if the window is two ways, somebody in the club will take a look and enjoy watching YOU being serviced! LOL
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1109038]Just for the record: how frequently are you asked or induced to buy a ladydrink? And what happens if you decline? I mean, it is something under your control or an unwritten rule that since you are sitting there you are supposed to buy drinks around the clock if you want to be treated?
Thanks[/QUOTE]There are no rules regarding buying anyone a LD. It's totally up to you if you want to buy or not or how many to buy. Some places will leave you alone, some places will pressure you to buy drinks and others will not only pressure you but also scorn you for not buying. It's up to you how much pressure you can take, but when the time comes, its easy enough just to walk out and find another bar that you feel more comfortable in.
Shark
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Lack of quality pussy
Just spent the past week in Pattaya and difficult to find a decent looking bird in the beer bars on 2nd Street (or is my standards too high) , Joint full of roughies and blokes just on the drink, Due to lack of birds, the scrubbers are flat out serving in some of the bars.
Why do most of the sorts fuck off home in probably one of the busiest periods of the year,
Thank fuck market stalls are gone from beach road so birds are back looking for some business. Got a bird last night from beach and she wanted to fuck off early and expected full (inflated) payment. Got to stage I had to ring the front desk for the doorman, once this happened she fucked off, Shit last thing you need is drama on your holidays.
Off to AC shortly, pussy quality should be better (I hope)
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Me too
[QUOTE=Apeman 28; 1109198]Just spent the past week in Pattaya and difficult to find a decent looking bird in the beer bars on 2nd Street (or is my standards too high) , Joint full of roughies and blokes just on the drink, Due to lack of birds, the scrubbers are flat out serving in some of the bars.
Why do most of the sorts fuck off home in probably one of the busiest periods of the year,
Thank fuck market stalls are gone from beach road so birds are back looking for some business. Got a bird last night from beach and she wanted to fuck off early and expected full (inflated) payment. Got to stage I had to ring the front desk for the doorman, once this happened she fucked off, Shit last thing you need is drama on your holidays.
Off to AC shortly, pussy quality should be better (I hope)[/QUOTE]It's not just you.
Almost impossible IMO to find a decent looking bird in a beer bar in Pattaya these days. The place just seems full of rough old bar girls and the punters seem to be here either to drink themselves senseless or to sponsor the first thing they can find.
It is very sad when you remember what the beer bar scene was like a few years back.
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Meet Non-pro girls
Is it possible to meet Non-pro girls in Pattaya, Thailand or is it all pro girls? I'm a relatively good looking Young guy that wants to stay somewhere for a few months relax a bit, and not pay girls for sex but hang out and make friends and maybe a relationship for the duration of the time I'm there. Is such a thing possible or is it all P4P? Also, I'm into girls that are 9s and 10s. The majority of the pictures taht I saw in the photo gallery were not attractive at all (a few exceptions but very very few). Are there better looking girls in Pattaya or is the photo gallary indicative of the general quality of girls you'll find there. Again I'm not looking for Pro girls. I just want to go somewhere relatively cheap to live for a few months, that has plenty of beautiful girls that are easy to interact with and that aren't just looking to make a quick buck off you and then move on. Is Pattaya the place or should I look elsewhere? Where would it be that you guys would recommend?
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[QUOTE=Salsadude;1109256]Is it possible to meet Non-pro girls in Pattaya, Thailand or is it all pro girls? I'm a relatively good looking Young guy that wants to stay somewhere for a few months relax a bit, and not pay girls for sex but hang out and make friends and maybe a relationship for the duration of the time I'm there. Is such a thing possible or is it all P4P? Also, I'm into girls that are 9s and 10s. The majority of the pictures taht I saw in the photo gallery were not attractive at all (a few exceptions but very very few). Are there better looking girls in Pattaya or is the photo gallary indicative of the general quality of girls you'll find there. Again I'm not looking for Pro girls. I just want to go somewhere relatively cheap to live for a few months, that has plenty of beautiful girls that are easy to interact with and that aren't just looking to make a quick buck off you and then move on. Is Pattaya the place or should I look elsewhere? Where would it be that you guys would recommend?[/QUOTE]Difficult to find 9s or 10s (even in the pro world). I rarely see foreigners with really hot Thai girls who are not pros. Why? The rich, good-looking Thai girls don't want to date foreigners. Their dream is to marry a good Thai man (preferably Thai-Chinese with white skin). Foreigners are a step down from this. After living here for 4 years I rarely see really hot Thai girls arm in arm with a foreigner. If you speak Thai, your chances improve however. Lots of these "9" and "10" girls only date Thai men because they want to be someone they can communicate with (along with the reason mentioned before). Although their English might be good, obviously their Thai is better and they want a partner whom they can talk to and share things with.
Also, the hottest girls are in Bangkok. Pattaya has a reputation not only for working girls, but for the farang men who go there, so many girls who live in Pattaya who are not "pros" will no doubt look at you as a sexpat because many westerners who live and visit Pattaya fit this description.
My advice would be to skip Pattaya and stay in Bangkok where you will probably have better luck. Try a few online dating sites. I had a lot of luck with those and there are some real gems on there. But as for the 9s and 10s walking around Emporium, Esplanade, and Siam Square, if you don't speak Thai, you're probably not going to get anywhere with them.
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1109069]The X-Zone is a club that has go-go dancers, but also have a couple of stages where women perform sex acts on each other. And usually customers will also join in; pure family entertainment![/QUOTE]Including fisting (with supplied glove).
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1109069]Barfines for servers was 700B, dancers and performers was 800B. You still have to negotiate a price for ST or LT with the lady. The place also has short time rooms in the club. One of the rooms has a large window (two or one way) where you can look out and enjoy the club while getting service in the room. Short time in the bar was 2000B.[/QUOTE]Can confirm this as of a month or 3 ago. The girls I took were anxious to close the curtain of the short-time room.
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[QUOTE=Sharka;1109121]Some places will leave you alone, some places will pressure you to buy drinks[/QUOTE]And in some places, or at some times, if you buy a drink the girl leaves it there untouched while making out with you, or just cuddling, for as long as you like. Depends on the vibe and the number of customers and the moon and so on.
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Public Holidays and Bar Closures.Makha Bucha
Dear Seniors.
I am already booked to Pattaya on 17th Feb & 18th Feb 2011.
But now I know about Feb 18 th The Public Holidays and Bar Closures in Thailand due to "Makha Bucha" festival.
(Historically always mandatory bar closure (or no alcohol allowed) on this day) is it true? Bar & Massage parlour are closed this day (Feb 18th ). Please advice!
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Spanishboy 29
MauiDude,
If you are comming on this time in Pattaya I am ready.
The ugly thai girl is in phuket and is expensive, and the beautiful girl are in Bangkok, I visit many nightclub there, the best is RCA NIGHTCLUB only beautiful girl this girl is not for money is free but you need to play yor game no tourist no farang ding dong only thai people. Pattaya is funny place and is easy to find things, Bangkok is big they are many cars and motorcycles (and is difficult to find things Bangkok is more expencive in all city after phuket, soon I thing Pattaya will be the same because of russia people.
You can find in mixx nightclub many russia girls will go with you home, it debend how you look. Something I not understand guys many people pay 3000 bath in Bangkok for sex what the hell is that, why come to Thailand? Is farang ding dong again. You can find in your own country is this price why come and travel all this way)
Maximum is pay 1000 bath and no more for long time. Thai people sallery in moth is no more 5000 bath and many have less. Sorry for my english guys
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The farang ripoffs never end
[QUOTE=Hotshanehot; 1107942]I was just in the penthouse site to make a booking for April.
I have never seen this befor.
After the room rate there was an on line free of $ 390 THB.
Then there was an Relevant Sevice Charge of $ 884 THB.
THEN a Relevant Government Charge of $ 681 THB.
That is now up to $ 1, 955 THB on top of the room rate.
And I all way book my room on line. [/QUOTE]The farang ripoffs never end. Be sure to read the long list of Penthouse Terms and Conditions. I hope you don't need to cancel because, per clause #10) Room / Suite. A Cancellation charge of 35, (plus Transaction Fee, and any relevant Bank / Currency Charges) will apply (subject to clauses 11 & 12). The "Transaction Fee" amount is not specified, but I bet it isn't cheap.
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[QUOTE=Hotshanehot; 1107942]I was just in the penthouse site to make a booking for April.
I have never seen this befor.
After the room rate there was an on line free of $ 390 THB.
Then there was an Relevant Sevice Charge of $ 884 THB.
THEN a Relevant Government Charge of $ 681 THB.
That is now up to $ 1, 955 THB on top of the room rate.
And I all way book my room on line. [/QUOTE]Why don't you post this on the Penthouse Hotel thread. It belongs there more than anything else written there.
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Pattaya memories
Well, after reading hundreds of pages on this great forum, I finally arrived to LOS on beginning of December, flying from EU with stop over at Delhi. First time ever in this part of world. Wet and horrible heat hit me right after stepping out of the BKK airport. However, later it was not so bad as I quickly got used to it (after 2-3 days) and most of the mid-days time I've been sleeping, acting in the evenings and nights. Cold beers helped me a lot to survive.
Arrived to Pattaya about noon by taxi (1000baht, first driver wanted 1500) tired after a loooong journey, so fall asleep, then got a shower, some Thai food and off I go. Beach Road was crowded after 5pm with walking tourists and rather few FLs as yet. I've been surprised with the number of Russians visitors! Or at least Russian speaking. But with every minute spent on the BR the number of working girls was increasing. Soon, one of the FL. Cute, skinny. 23yo, named "Bo". Waved me with big smile saying "I like you hansum man". Absolutely bad English pronunciation (Thinglish, I would say) but enough to communicate. 3 minutes later she has made me an offer. 1500 / LT. I have already almost agreed bargaining to 1000 / LT, but she told me she shaves her fur, actually she did it 2 days ago, and as I don't naked pusies, I just told her some excuses (thanks but I am tired or so) and only took her phone nr. Just in case her fur will get bigger. For my premiere deed I was trying to spot a cutie I would really like. And not shaved. So walked forth and back about 3-4 times from Soi 7 down to Beer Garden and Walking Street, watching the girls. Man, I was amazed with its quantity and quality! Most of them looked to me so beautiful! And I was still sober. Many of them were giving me a smile, making an eye contact, and if I did not respond with the same smile. They turned their eyes off with smile quickly disappearing. I was trying to do my best to make a quick decision, but it was to short time! I needed more time, but at this very first evening I found myself confused and felt uncomfortable with coming over to the girls "just like that" and asking how much and what's on offer. Then I spotted some very young and small, thin spinner (that I would rate 7-8 today). She gave me a great smile, so well. This time or never I thought. And went over to her. We started to talk, the typical stuff. How old are you, where from etc. Etc. Her English almost didn't exist but she was good with numbers / prices, so with a bit of help of my Thai (very limited, as I learned some phrases back home, couple of days before my trip) I got to know she is unshaved!
- Khun me mooi mai?
- Me khaa.
- Phom chawp.
Great to hear that, lets make a deal then! She asked for 800 / ST, I replayed with 500, she immediately agreed and off we go. I was worrying if she is adult, I mean over 18, so checked her I'd and to my big surprise. She was 26 already! Couldn't believe it. She grabed my hand and we walked to my room. It was already after 8pm, along the way back to the hotel, one cutie in a beer bar next to my hotel caught my eye. I promised myself to check her later and get to know her better. Well, back to the action."me shower, you shower". And we jumped to the bed. She of course wrapped with a towel. I gently took the towel off her body and I really liked the way she looked: quite dark skin, seemed so young and petite with these small tits with perky nipples, and yes. Gorgeously haired pussy! Went on DATY without asking her and she enjoyed it. She was very nice, with very good attitude, open for suggestion and very willing to please me, but frankly. It was nothing unique or special (except her look) that I would be missing after or would want to repeat. It didn't last long, maybe 1. 5 hour all together. I was done, but still horny as I had no sex for some weeks before. So gave her a tip, a hug and she replayed with a kiss before she closed the doors. I was smiling to myself. I was quite happy, relaxed, unloaded, calmed down and peaceful. So showered again and while resting alone a bit. My minds started to drift to the one from the bar nearby. I came to LOS to be a butterfly, so an hour later I was already sitting in that bar, sipping glasses of whisky with ice and really enjoyed the atmosphere in a bar. The bar I saw Her. I met there two very funny Aussies. Greetings to you guys. If you read it! Loud music was played, I was looking at the girls working in a bar, there were about 20 of them! All of them were very smiley, friendly and nice. Most were pretty and slim, some average looking, few fat and maybe 3-4 were a real stunner. At least to my taste, including the one I came for. From time to time I looked at Her, trying to get in an eye contact, but it was hard as she was rather dancing or staying at the back of the scene, letting her mates to dance in front of her, sometimes even in front of a bar, right on a street. I was watching and admiring shape of her lips, her black, kitten-like eyes and well curved body, full breast, and a bit wider hips. Just the way I like. I thought I could see some darker 'tint' right above her lips, kind of a shade, what might be a sign that she is the girl that has more hair here and there. And I was praying for that to be true. Time was passing by, she didn't give me a single look, or I have missed it, so I chatted with several girls, bought for 3-4 of them a lady drinks (but no one pushed me for buying). I asked about Her. The girl I kept thinking about. Bar girls told me she is new from Isaan, her name is "Yar" and it was her first month in a bar. And she has never been with farang before. Oh really? Yes, she don't even speak any English yet. Thanks God I was able to speak some Thai. Shall I believe in what the girls told me? I think so and I could make myself convinced later on. Couple of girls I liked and I was just considering to bar fine one, when "my" girl, yes. THIS one girl. Started to look at me, but rather with shyness and only from time to time. I knew her work mates must have told her I like her. Finally she decided (after being pushed by one of her friends) to come over so I asked her to sit with me by the table. Asked her what she likes to drink and she replied "Sum-song whiskey". Well. This is where my whole Thai story begins, but can't write all of it right now. So stay tuned if you like it. To be continued soon.
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[QUOTE=Usman004; 1109372]Dear Seniors.
Feb 18 th The Public Holidays and Bar Closures in Thailand due to "Makha Bucha" festival. (Historically always mandatory bar closure (or no alcohol allowed) on this day) is it true? Bar & Massage parlour are closed this day (Feb 18th ). Please advice! [/QUOTE]When I was in Patt that was kings birthday. A big holiday and alcohol you could still get in 7-11. But 90% of the bars were all closed, Pattaya was dead, and those bars that were open were not selling alcohol. Just beer (some of them) and soft drinks. 90% of the girls were having day off.
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Wow
[QUOTE=Wendella;1004238]On the Stickman site I've read about a certain police scam where they'll stop a foreigner at the bus station en route to or arriving from Pattaya and search bags: if they find Viagra or other drugs and the guy has no prescription for it, they threaten to take him to the station unless he pays his "fine" on the spot. I seem to remember also reading about a certain section of Sukhumvit where they might pull the same thing, but don't quote me. Anyone else remember reading that? It also could have been on another forum.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's a new one!
What I've heard for sure was about farangs from Phuket going to Myanmar on a visa run and coming back with a luggage full of Kamagra (aparently it is worth doing, if you just look at the math). Upon search at the border, surprise! They got seriously jailed (for months) and then deported.
Thai police is one class of ondividuals that anyone in his right mind should try and keep at safe distance at any given time IMO, and Thai prison must be just as lovely and probably even more lovely than that!
Bless and stay safe!
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Soi 6 raid
Any one happen to be here last night.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/33768/350-strong-police-raid-of-bars-in-soi-6-in-central-pattaya/[/url]
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3000 baht
[QUOTE=Spanishboy 29; 1109415]Something I not understand guys many people pay 3000 bath in Bangkok for sex what the hell is that, why come to Thailand? Is farang ding dong again. You can find in your own country is this price why come and travel all this way)[/QUOTE]If I could find sex in my country with a beautiful, clean woman that is not whacked out on crack and got so many needle marks in her arms that she looks like a pin-cushion for 3000 baht (about $100 US) I would never have to travel anywhere.
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[QUOTE=Bender69;1109842]If I could find sex in my country with a beautiful, clean woman that is not whacked out on crack and got so many needle marks in her arms that she looks like a pin-cushion for 3000 baht (about $100 US) I would never have to travel anywhere.[/QUOTE]Where do you live?
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Some thoughts
[QUOTE=Salsadude;1109256]Is it possible to meet Non-pro girls in Pattaya, Thailand or is it all pro girls? I'm a relatively good looking Young guy that wants to stay somewhere for a few months relax a bit, and not pay girls for sex but hang out and make friends and maybe a relationship for the duration of the time I'm there. Is such a thing possible or is it all P4P? Also, I'm into girls that are 9s and 10s. The majority of the pictures taht I saw in the photo gallery were not attractive at all (a few exceptions but very very few). Are there better looking girls in Pattaya or is the photo gallary indicative of the general quality of girls you'll find there. Again I'm not looking for Pro girls. I just want to go somewhere relatively cheap to live for a few months, that has plenty of beautiful girls that are easy to interact with and that aren't just looking to make a quick buck off you and then move on. Is Pattaya the place or should I look elsewhere? Where would it be that you guys would recommend?[/QUOTE]1. 9s and 10s? A 10 is basically perfect. Maybe 1 in 10, 000. (if your idea of 10 is the same as mine). Why would a perfectly gorgeous thai girl spend time with a guy visiting for a few months? As someone else mentioned, a gorgeous, non-pro is shopping for something else.
2. Pattaya is basically all-pro. Even most of the non-pros have come to Pattaya to hunt for a man. The idea is to get a man to fall in love with them, and reap the financial benefits. I'm not saying she won't also love her man, but money is what drives her desire and it is what brought her to Pattaya.
3. Based on what you are looking for, I would say Pattaya is the place you shouldn't go.
4. However, if you want to bang some hot girls (pro, or basically pro) , Pattaya is a great place, and despite what you've seen in pictures, there are plenty of hot girls available. If you want to stick with just one girl for a long time, Pattaya is good for that too.
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Speaking of Girlfriends
I would rate my Pattaya girl an 8.
Here is a pic of just a part of her.
The rest is equally tasty.
This pic is heavily cropped to minimize the chance of identification.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1109270]And in some places, or at some times, if you buy a drink the girl leaves it there untouched while making out with you, or just cuddling, for as long as you like. Depends on the vibe and the number of customers and the moon and so on.[/QUOTE]I see. Can you be a little more specific and name which clubs go like this?
Thanks
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Usa
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1109884]Where do you live?[/QUOTE]Sounds like USA, full of Crackers & Crack Hoes!
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker; 1109913]I would rate my Pattaya girl an 8.
Here is a pic of just a part of her.
The rest is equally tasty.
This pic is heavily cropped to minimize the chance of identification. [/QUOTE]Yes, I'd say the chance of identification is quite minimal now.
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[QUOTE=Slackerslacker; 1109913]I would rate my Pattaya girl an 8.
Here is a pic of just a part of her.
The rest is equally tasty.
This pic is heavily cropped to minimize the chance of identification. [/QUOTE]I know that ass from anywhere. That is my sister's ass; thank goodness she finally found a job!
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1110200]I know that ass from anywhere. That is my sister's ass; thank goodness she finally found a job![/QUOTE]She is pretty good at her job too, Tomjackin; You must have taught her well. I gave her 2, 000 last night. Worth every penny.
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[QUOTE=1Ball;1110204]She is pretty good at her job too, Tomjackin; You must have taught her well. I gave her 2, 000 last night. Worth every penny.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I was wondering why she gave me 1000b this morning for no particular reason. She is trained well; brotherly love goes a long way!
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Are you experienced on 3some?
I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start.
Do you get a better time in picking up pros from go-gos or maybe two freelancers friends in a disco club?
And, if go-go, is there any particular good in this service?
I'd like to know the dos and the don'ts in general, 'cause I'd like to get two smart girls who know how to play it but not too much smart in terms of chance in ending up scammed, if you know what I mean.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1110245]I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start.
Do you get a better time in picking up pros from go-gos or maybe two freelancers friends in a disco club?
And, if go-go, is there any particular good in this service?
I'd like to know the dos and the don'ts in general, 'cause I'd like to get two smart girls who know how to play it but not too much smart in terms of chance in ending up scammed, if you know what I mean. [/QUOTE]Just go to Beach Road, talk to the girls and tell them that you like to have threesome. They might tell you they have a friend. I did so and was completly happy.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1110245]I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start.
Do you get a better time in picking up pros from go-gos or maybe two freelancers friends in a disco club?
And, if go-go, is there any particular good in this service?
I'd like to know the dos and the don'ts in general, 'cause I'd like to get two smart girls who know how to play it but not too much smart in terms of chance in ending up scammed, if you know what I mean. [/QUOTE]Go to the Devil's Den of LK Metro!
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1110245]I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start. Do you get a better time in picking up pros from go-gos or maybe two freelancers friends in a disco club?[/QUOTE]As the guys said either go to DD or pick up a couple chicks off BR. In my experience the disco girls will not do threesomes. They will tell you to choose one or the other. From my observation they don't really see themselves as hookers per se. They see themselves as just partying then "happening" to leave with someone. And they are very well in control of leaving with you (or talking to you for that matter) or not based on whether they like you. So most of them don't do all of the freaky stuff that you would get from BR or Soi 6 such as anal, CIM, COF. It's more of my idea of what GFE is: hang out + have a good time + do some basic sex stuff...not just a strictly business thing.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1110245]I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start.
Do you get a better time in picking up pros from go-gos or maybe two freelancers friends in a disco club?
And, if go-go, is there any particular good in this service?
I'd like to know the dos and the don'ts in general, 'cause I'd like to get two smart girls who know how to play it but not too much smart in terms of chance in ending up scammed, if you know what I mean. [/QUOTE]I've been proposed threesomes in gogos like TQ1, The Office. You pay 2 times the room fee and 1000 to 1500 per girl. Very nice break between 2 Gin Tonic.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1110014]I see. Can you be a little more specific and name which clubs go like this?[/QUOTE]I've experienced this, for example, in Superstar in Patpong with a particular girl (next to Goldfinger) , last week at Star of Light a girl kept me hard on the couch inside waiting for two fat old guys to get off in the little room (one after the other, this took quite a while) before we had our round, in four or five of the bars in soi 6 in Pattaya, at Oasis gogo on soi Buakaow with a particular girl, at Omatsuri massage near Thong Lo downstairs on a slow night, in the lounge with my favourite girl at Bliss Lounge in Pattaya, one time at Carre Blanc near the end of 3rd Road in Pattaya. Of course, at all these places you are equally likely to have a bad experience, and on off days I do. It's up to you. Speaking basic Thai helps a lot, but for sure there are guys whose hands, eyes and tongues are more eloquent than my Thai.
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2 girls to join
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1110245]I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start.
Do you get a better time in picking up pros from go-gos or maybe two freelancers friends in a disco club?
And, if go-go, is there any particular good in this service?
I'd like to know the dos and the don'ts in general, 'cause I'd like to get two smart girls who know how to play it but not too much smart in terms of chance in ending up scammed, if you know what I mean. [/QUOTE]I bring my filipina girl with me and we find or look for girls to join us.
Sometimes its easy and sometimes very difficult.
We try everything. Independents, go gos and discos.
And also sometimes I am on my own and want to find two girls to play. Just tell the girl what you want and see if she is willing. And talk. Easier if you can speak some thai because many misunderstandings but use sign language and talk.
Also buy mamasan a drink and ask her.
Go to a club where they have lesbian shows and then the picking is easier.
I met girls everywhere that are willing and everywhere that are not willing.
In general the pay for play girls are more willing but its also limited.
The disco and regular girls in the malls and everywhere else are less likely.
But I have a friend with a thai girl that finds bi girls willing to join in from the discos and other 'normal' hang outs.
But they both speak thai. So much easier.
I go out to the go go bars and my girl wears a very short dress with no underwear.
If we see a girl we like she shows the girl her pussy and starts playing with her self for the girl to see.
Then we find out really fast if the girl likes girls.
0r if the girl sits with us my girl will start touching her pussy and find out fast if she likes or not and then go from there.
Seems like walking street bars have the most bi or lesbian girls.
Also if you have one girl sitting with you and then you see another, just grab their hand and direct them to touch each.
Others' pussy. Be gentle and also develop a little rapport first but if they seem to like it and go for it then that is.
A good clue. If they pull back and shake their head then you know they are not going to be fun.
No guarantees on any of this but it has been helpful to me.
One might be babydolls? Or close to there. And the bar across the street from that.
Both have lesbian shows.
Just go into the bars if you find one that seems willing tell her to pick out another girl that she likes.
Most lesbian or bi girls will have a friend that she plays with on a regular basis.
If you find one girl that likes girls and you want to find another it is usually better again to let the girl you are with find her.
But the biggest clue to me is if I walk into a club with a girl and one of the dancing girls keep smiling at me.
A lot of girls ignore you when you are with a girl all ready. Because they don't want drama and have a girl get mad at her.
Went into one club on walking street. It was somewhere close to the airport club but across the street. Figured out that
There were many willing lesbian girls there.
Even one girl was licking my girls' pussy inside the club.
Good luck and let me know if you find some gems there that like girls. We are going back there the end of feburary.
When I go back I will keep track of the names of the clubs where I find the girls that are willing to be with other girls
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[QUOTE=SoftLover;1110425]I've been proposed threesomes in gogos like TQ1, The Office. You pay 2 times the room fee and 1000 to 1500 per girl. Very nice break between 2 Gin Tonic.[/QUOTE]1. 000 to 1. 500 per girl could be valuable if they make a good interplay, but paying the room twice it doesn't seem quite a deal to me. Better off take them to my hotel, but I guess you are supposed to pay bouble-BF and we are back there. But still cheaper than Devil's Den maybe. Where are these go-go's you named and can you rate look of average girls in there?
Never heard TQ1 and The Office in previous thread about the go-go scene in Pattaya.
P. S. Thanks Rocksoff too for your answer.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1110545]but paying the room twice it doesn't seem quite a deal to me.[/QUOTE]At Baby Boom gogo (small gogo) near Oasis on Soi Buakaow I was offered two girls in the room upstairs, room free. I forget whether the girls were 1000 each or 1500 each. The one thing I remember is that the second girl was quite disappointed that she didn't get fucked as well as the first girl. She wanted to keep on riding and I had to ask for time out. Not enough stamina. Sometimes this gogo is fun, sometimes it's cold.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1110545]1. 000 to 1. 500 per girl could be valuable if they make a good interplay, but paying the room twice it doesn't seem quite a deal to me. Better off take them to my hotel, but I guess you are supposed to pay bouble-BF and we are back there. But still cheaper than Devil's Den maybe. Where are these go-go's you named and can you rate look of average girls in there?
Never heard TQ1 and The Office in previous thread about the go-go scene in Pattaya.
P. S. Thanks Rocksoff too for your answer. [/QUOTE]Tahitian Queen on Beach Road BTW. Soi 12 and 13 is one of the oldest gogos in Pattaya, and The Office agogo, on LK Metro, between Champagne agogo and Devils Den one of the most recent. The ST room in TQ is 300. I find gogos a lot more fun than DD because you can spend all your time getting to know the girls in the bar and then decide.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1110245]I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start.
Do you get a better time in picking up pros from go-gos or maybe two freelancers friends in a disco club?
And, if go-go, is there any particular good in this service?
I'd like to know the dos and the don'ts in general, 'cause I'd like to get two smart girls who know how to play it but not too much smart in terms of chance in ending up scammed, if you know what I mean. [/QUOTE]I think that this is pretty easy to come by in beer bars, go gos, and on Beach Road.
It's not an infrequent occurence that a go go girl will call her friend over and suggest that they both go with you, and if not you can ask her who her best friend is and have them both sit with you. Same for the beer bars. Beach Road is easy also.
One trick I have used in the past is take one girl one night, and if I like her then suggest that she return with a friend for some fun at a later date. It is easier if you know at least one of the girls a little bit in my view.
However, don't get your expectations too high in terms of porno style actions. It is pretty rare that the girls will actually do full on lesbian sex, and they are scared of each others saliva so the double header will be a bit annoying since they will ask you to go clean up when you want to switch mouths. They also have an annoying habit of going to the bath room and hiding there while you are fucking the other girl, plus you also get politics such as "I am not happy since you like her more than me" and so on.
That being said, have had some pretty good threesomes in Pattaya, but also some fairly average ones. But then, is there such a thing as an average threesome? LOL
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[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1109265]Difficult to find 9s or 10s (even in the pro world). I rarely see foreigners with really hot Thai girls who are not pros. Why? The rich, good-looking Thai girls don't want to date foreigners. Their dream is to marry a good Thai man (preferably Thai-Chinese with white skin). Foreigners are a step down from this. After living here for 4 years I rarely see really hot Thai girls arm in arm with a foreigner. If you speak Thai, your chances improve however. Lots of these "9" and "10" girls only date Thai men because they want to be someone they can communicate with (along with the reason mentioned before). Although their English might be good, obviously their Thai is better and they want a partner whom they can talk to and share things with.
Also, the hottest girls are in Bangkok. Pattaya has a reputation not only for working girls, but for the farang men who go there, so many girls who live in Pattaya who are not "pros" will no doubt look at you as a sexpat because many westerners who live and visit Pattaya fit this description.
My advice would be to skip Pattaya and stay in Bangkok where you will probably have better luck. Try a few online dating sites. I had a lot of luck with those and there are some real gems on there. But as for the 9s and 10s walking around Emporium, Esplanade, and Siam Square, if you don't speak Thai, you're probably not going to get anywhere with them. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Slackerslacker; 1109909]1. 9s and 10s? A 10 is basically perfect. Maybe 1 in 10, 000. (if your idea of 10 is the same as mine). Why would a perfectly gorgeous thai girl spend time with a guy visiting for a few months? As someone else mentioned, a gorgeous, non-pro is shopping for something else.
2. Pattaya is basically all-pro. Even most of the non-pros have come to Pattaya to hunt for a man. The idea is to get a man to fall in love with them, and reap the financial benefits. I'm not saying she won't also love her man, but money is what drives her desire and it is what brought her to Pattaya.
3. Based on what you are looking for, I would say Pattaya is the place you shouldn't go.
4. However, if you want to bang some hot girls (pro, or basically pro) , Pattaya is a great place, and despite what you've seen in pictures, there are plenty of hot girls available. If you want to stick with just one girl for a long time, Pattaya is good for that too. [/QUOTE]Thanks guys! Just to give you an idea of what my taste is. I'll post a few of the picks that I've seen on various threads here that I think are relatively attractive.
Can't really see this ones face too well, but from this angle she looks like an 8. 5. (I would go for her). [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108241&d=1231620930[/url]
This one looks like a 9 to me. I would definitely go for her. [url]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001817[/url]
This one I would consider an 8. 5. I would go for her. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125563[/url]
How common are girls that are this attractive. Are there even better looking ones? How about in the Non-pro world.
In Canada, I find it relatively easy to hook up with Asian girls that don't speak much English. Now I know the game is much different here than it would be in Thailand as the girls that are here are always looking for a friend to practice their English with (which gives you an "in"). The rest is up to you not to screw up. But on average it rarely takes longer than 6 hours (divided into several dates / meetings of course) to hook up with a non-pro here. I'm hoping it would be just as easy in Thailand, if not easier. With the added benefit that living costs are cheaper. So I'd be able to live like a king there and get the bonus chance to experience the country and some of the neighboring countries. Take pictures, ride elephants, scuba dive, eat awesome Thai food, maybe take some thai-boxing lessons, relax, etc. I want to go there for 3 to 4 months.
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I also find one of the girls in this video (the short one with the jean skirt and army tank top at 0:10) to be attractive. The rest aren't really my type. Or you can't see them clearly enough to tell. Some are obviously ladyboys. How do you guys avoid those? I can barely tell the difference. Apparently some even have surgery "down there" and are apparently more attractive than the actual girls. That's a very scary prospect. Haha.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Di9FefTQc&feature=fvst[/url]
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[QUOTE=Fun And Sun;1110706]But then, is there such a thing as an average threesome? LOL[/QUOTE]At this one bar, I was doing a total cutie for a couple of visits. Then one time she wasn't there, but there's a slutty-looking one who does it for me. What she lacks in freshness and naivete, she makes up in other ways. I talk to her and find out they're sisters.
The two-sister threesome was poignant. They said it was their third time together.
Finding sisters (or aunts & nieces) working in the same bar isn't uncommon.
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They are everywhere
[QUOTE=Salsadude; 1110720]Can't really see this ones face too well, but from this angle she looks like an 8. 5. (I would go for her).
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108241&d=1231620930[/url]
This one I would consider an 8. 5. I would go for her.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125563[/url]
How common are girls that are this attractive. [/QUOTE]Salsa, these girls are everywhere. You will absolutely find what you are looking for.
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[QUOTE=Salsadude; 1110727]I also find one of the girls in this video (the short one with the jean skirt and army tank top at 0:10) to be attractive. The rest aren't really my type. Or you can't see them clearly enough to tell. Some are obviously ladyboys. How do you guys avoid those? I can barely tell the difference. Apparently some even have surgery "down there" and are apparently more attractive than the actual girls. That's a very scary prospect. Haha.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Di9FefTQc&feature=fvst[/url]
[/QUOTE]I would say that this video is quite representative of what you are going to see in Pattaya nowadays. To be honest, many girls usually look better in real life than on amateur videos (or on amateur photos). If you like the girl you mentioned above, then, you will be a happy man because there is plenty of this kind (and even better) in Pattaya and in other tourist-oriented destinations in Thailand. Of course, there is also much more girls that you would probably find unattractive, but it should not be very difficult to find someone you like anyway.
About avoiding ladyboys, you may find this webpage worth reading (as long as the "[url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2657-Identifying-Transvestites"]Identifying transvestites" thread[/url]): [url]http://www.suite101.com/content/recognizing-thailands-ladyboys-on-the-street-a206186[/url]
For me, their voice is already a very good giveaway.
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About the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125563"]first girl[/url], I already answered in the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1033-Phuket-Reports&p=1110837&viewfull=1#post1110837"]Phuket thread[/url].
[QUOTE=Salsadude;1110720]...This one looks like a 9 to me. I would definitely go for her. [url]http://www.thaimassagemodel.com/home/model_detail.php?mod_id=001817[/url][/QUOTE]
She's probably a little bit less attractive in real life (the pictures shown on professional websites are often doctored with Photoshop or a similar software), but she seems to have a great body and a pretty face (she would look better IMHO if she had not dyed her hair and I am not a great fan of colored contact lenses on Thai eyes, but, hey, that's just my own taste!). You may find several girls that are as attractive as her (or even better) in the real life, but they are not so numerous in Pattaya. But you will find plenty of the third type there...
[QUOTE=Salsadude;1110720]...This one I would consider an 8. 5. I would go for her. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125563[/url][/QUOTE]
This girl is typically of the kind that I don't find much attractive anymore after having spent several years in Thailand (as explained earlier in the Phuket thread). I would probably have found her attractive on my first stay in Pattaya twelve years ago, though. I don't want to offend anyone, but for me, she looks a little bit "low-class" with her dyed hair and her tattoos, and nowadays, I prefer girls with a fairer skin. But she seems to have a nice rack and a great body (as far as I can see on this picture).
This last one is very common in Pattaya. You won't have much difficulties in finding similar girls there.
[QUOTE=Salsadude;1110720]...How about in the Non-pro world.
In Canada, I find it relatively easy to hook up with Asian girls that don't speak much English. Now I know the game is much different here than it would be in Thailand as the girls that are here are always looking for a friend to practice their English with (which gives you an "in"). The rest is up to you not to screw up. But on average it rarely takes longer than 6 hours (divided into several dates / meetings of course) to hook up with a non-pro here. I'm hoping it would be just as easy in Thailand, if not easier...[/QUOTE]
Girls in the "non-pro" world in Thailand are, IMHO, usually more attractive on average (especially if you like girls that don't look like wh0res, and I would honestly say that the last one in your previous post does not qualify, in my eyes). As stated in the Phuket thread, the real "non-pro" Thai girls are usually very traditionalist (you won't find many "real non-pro" women in Pattaya) and you are not going to hook up with them easily here. You must understand that there is a big difference between the local girls available on the tourist-orientated P4P market and the rest of the feminine population who is very conservative. IMHO, you should read the following webpage: [url]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/Reader/reader1844.htm[/url]
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[QUOTE=Goyave; 1110895]... This girl is typically of the kind that I don't find much attractive anymore after having spent several years in Thailand (as explained earlier in the Phuket thread). I would probably have found her attractive on my first stay in Pattaya twelve years ago, though. I don't want to offend anyone, but for me, she looks a little bit "low-class" with her dyed hair and her tattoos, and nowadays, I prefer girls with a fairer skin. But she seems to have a nice rack and a great body (as far as I can see on this picture).
This last one is very common in Pattaya. You won't have much difficulties in finding similar girls there...[/QUOTE]Sorry, I made a mistake in my previous reply with the link to one girl's picture. The "third" girl whom I spoke about in my previous post is actually this one: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108241&d=1231620930[/url]
She was actually the first one mentioned in [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1110720&viewfull=1#post1110720"]Salsadude's previous post[/url] (and my first one was his third one!).
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Exchange
Hi, it seems that euro / bath change is 1 to 40. Definitely worse than same time last year (46/47).
So, can you tell where to a slightly better exchange: at airport, downtown Pattaya or else?
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1111230]Hi, it seems that euro / bath change is 1 to 40. Definitely worse than same time last year (46/47).
So, can you tell where to a slightly better exchange: at airport, downtown Pattaya or else? [/QUOTE]Not sure what denomination Euros come in, but with American dollars at the exchange booths on walking street, the larger the bill you're exchanging, the higher rate of baht you'll get. Also, generally speaking and again in American terms, you "usually" get a better rate using an ATM with a debit card. I used the ATM across from the Hot Tuna a couple times and had no problems at all.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1111230]Hi, it seems that euro / bath change is 1 to 40. Definitely worse than same time last year (46/47).
So, can you tell where to a slightly better exchange: at airport, downtown Pattaya or else? [/QUOTE]At least the euro exchange is still far better than the sinking (or stinking) US Dollar.
Exchange rates are better with the money changers in Pattaya or even the banks. Airport and hotels are usually the worst.
But the truth is, the rates are not that different anyway unless you are looking to change a huge sum of $.
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1111472]Not sure what denomination Euros come in, but with American dollars at the exchange booths on walking street, the larger the bill you're exchanging, the higher rate of baht you'll get. Also, generally speaking and again in American terms, you "usually" get a better rate using an ATM with a debit card. I used the ATM across from the Hot Tuna a couple times and had no problems at all.[/QUOTE]Speaking of ATM's, if you use one, make sure you withdraw as much as possible in one transaction as there is a one time fee associated with every withdraw. And also not all ATM are created equal as various ATM / banks have different rates. Can't remember which ATMs had the best rates though as its been over a year since I last visited here. Perhaps others who live here can post this info.
FZ
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Threesome
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1110245]I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start.
[/QUOTE]Book a room at Penthouse Pattaya, go to Devils Den pick 2 girls for 6000 Bhat, they will show you what threesome is untill 6. 00 AM and if you are lucky it might further extend
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My Expertise; LOL!
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1110245]I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start.
Do you get a better time in picking up pros from go-gos or maybe two freelancers friends in a disco club?
And, if go-go, is there any particular good in this service?
I'd like to know the dos and the don'ts in general, 'cause I'd like to get two smart girls who know how to play it but not too much smart in terms of chance in ending up scammed, if you know what I mean. [/QUOTE]The key to getting 2 or more girls for lesbian action is to ask ask ask!
Never really tried to get freelancers to do the lesbian stuff at the discos. My guess is that it will be difficult.
As numerous posts has mentioned, Devil's Den is guaranteed to get that experience.
Another guaranteed experience would be to go to the go-go bars that has the jacuzzi lesbian shows. The girls that do the shows will definitely do it. Silver Star, Baby Dolls and several others has those type of shows.
From my experience, a higher percentage of the girls that dance naked in those bars will do it.
Also from my experience, none of the cute ones (8 in my scale which is the best you get in Pattaya) in the top notch go-go bars will do it.
My guess is that the ugly girls will be more willing to do it since they will be more desperate.
Other posts mentioned the girls on beach road. I've only asked a few times; most of the time, they said no. But then I asked the cutest ones I found (5 or 6 on my scale).
I don't normally go to the open air bars; I've only asked a few times; I don't recall picking up 2 from those open air bars.
IMO, the go-go bar is your best avenue. But you can get 2 girls from any venue. You just have to keep asking.
Important Hints:
1) You need to ask every detailed question. Probably should ask twice. Probably have to use basic words and point.
2) Sometimes even if they say yes at the bar, they won't do it in the room. Then it's up to you what you want to do.
3) Now it seems that some bars are asking you pay the bar fine plus the tip up front. That is not a good idea; insist you will pay the tip after.
4) After you pay the bar fine, if the girls (in your room) insist you pay the tip up front, that is almost a guarantee that they will renege on their agreement.
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I have had a little luck in this at Secrets Bar a few years ago. What WILL work for you is to go into almost any GoGo, find the mamason and tell her what you want. A good one will know her girls, the other option is to find a girl you like and ask her is she does other girls? If she says yes LET HER PICK THE OTHER GIRL! I would stay away from beer bars for finding a 3some.
[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1111714]The key to getting 2 or more girls for lesbian action is to ask ask ask!
Never really tried to get freelancers to do the lesbian stuff at the discos. My guess is that it will be difficult.
As numerous posts has mentioned, Devil's Den is guaranteed to get that experience.
Another guaranteed experience would be to go to the go-go bars that has the jacuzzi lesbian shows. The girls that do the shows will definitely do it. Silver Star, Baby Dolls and several others has those type of shows.
From my experience, a higher percentage of the girls that dance naked in those bars will do it.
Also from my experience, none of the cute ones (8 in my scale which is the best you get in Pattaya) in the top notch go-go bars will do it.
My guess is that the ugly girls will be more willing to do it since they will be more desperate.
Other posts mentioned the girls on beach road. I've only asked a few times; most of the time, they said no. But then I asked the cutest ones I found (5 or 6 on my scale).
I don't normally go to the open air bars; I've only asked a few times; I don't recall picking up 2 from those open air bars.
IMO, the go-go bar is your best avenue. But you can get 2 girls from any venue. You just have to keep asking.
Important Hints:
1) You need to ask every detailed question. Probably should ask twice. Probably have to use basic words and point.
2) Sometimes even if they say yes at the bar, they won't do it in the room. Then it's up to you what you want to do.
3) Now it seems that some bars are asking you pay the bar fine plus the tip up front. That is not a good idea; insist you will pay the tip after.
4) After you pay the bar fine, if the girls (in your room) insist you pay the tip up front, that is almost a guarantee that they will renege on their agreement. [/QUOTE]
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Thai baht
Personally I found an exchange in South Pattaya that is slightly better than others, been exchanging money for the last 4 tripS and always been favourable (even better rates for the larger € 200/€500 notes ). Its located near the big school on 2nd road's side wer Baht bus gather for Jomtien but before the VC hotel, actually its a big shop that sells drawings & craft / wooden arts but inside they have an exchange, I forgot the name of shop but its between a Pharmacy & an Optician with an opposite 7/11.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1111230]Hi, it seems that euro / bath change is 1 to 40. Definitely worse than same time last year (46/47).
So, can you tell where to a slightly better exchange: at airport, downtown Pattaya or else? [/QUOTE]
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Good Point
[QUOTE=RoadGlide;1111739]What WILL work for you is to go into almost any GoGo, find the mamason and tell her what you want.[/QUOTE]Good idea in getting a threesome.
I normally buy them a lady's drink to talk and fondle them. But that can get very expensive if you have to ask many of them, especially with the lousy US dollar exchange rate.
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[QUOTE=Drkb744;1111615]Book a room at Penthouse Pattaya, go to Devils Den pick 2 girls for 6000 Bhat, they will show you what threesome is untill 6. 00 AM and if you are lucky it might further extend[/QUOTE]Sounds great but why not pick from the hotel clubs. Even try a mix and match threesome and go for extension until lunch.
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Ukrainian Dancers at Galaxy
One of the most persistent questions on the LOS punter boards has to do with Russian girls for P4P in Pattaya and Bangkok. Short answer is: there aren't any. There are plenty of attractive Russian tourist girls all over Thailand, but virtually none of them is available for P4P. The girls in the pics below are Ukrainian, which isn't Russian, but a lot closer than Uzbek or Kazak. They work at Galaxy and Lady Shadow on Walking Street, the places where "European Girls Only" dance in the glass booths.
I met them at about 3. 00 a. M. In morning while returning to the apartment I had rented behind TukCom. They were sitting on the curb of the sub soi, drinking large bottles of Chang. It was in early November, one of the nights when the BiB shut down WS at 2. 00 a. M.
I smiled as I walked past them and they toasted me with their bottles. I replied by hoisting an imaginary bottle. Then one of them. The girl with the big tits. Asked me a strange question. Did I know where she could get some mushrooms? Like the guy in Ghostbusters, I wondered,"Is that a trick question?" It wasn't. She simply had a hankering for Western-style mushrooms fried in butter. I said it would be rather difficult to find such mushrooms at that hour, but I'd be happy to invite her to lunch at one of the French restaurants in the neighborhood. Her companions started yelling,"me too! Me too," so I agreed to take all three of them to lunch.
After that, the conversation went a bit easier. I asked them where they came from and Miss Tits, who I'll call Tamara, said the Ukraine. Rather disingeniously, I asked what they were doing in Pattaya. Some giggling from the others, but Tamara answered very straight-forwardly that they did striptease and sex shows at Galaxy on WS. But, she emphasized, they didn't do sex for money. I asked them if I could take some pictures and they readily agreed, acting as silly as TGs do in front of the camera.
To cut to the chase: I didn't have any sort of sexual adventure with Tamara or her friends, although I did talk with them quite a bit over the course of a couple of days. The condo I was renting was much more comfortable than the god-awful room they shared, so they liked hanging out there in the afternoon. They worked between 10 pm and 5. 00 a. M. And didn't get up until around 1 pm What struck me most was that their situation wasn't very different to a lot of Thai girls. No jobs back home and this was the only way for them to travel and make money. However, they were bitterly disappointed the gig wasn't more lucrative. Apparently they didn't get much of a commission on the 500-baht drinks and 1, 000-baht, four-minute lap dances. Tamara steadfastly maintained they didn't do P4P and that they'd be sent home immediately if they did.
In all, it was an interesting experience to spend time with the Ukrainian girls. I learned a lot about the scene for non-Thai women working on WS. More on that in a later post.
Evil.
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3 somes
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1110245]I'd like to set a threesome but I never did that before and don't know where to start.
Do you get a better time in picking up pros from go-gos or maybe two freelancers friends in a disco club?
And, if go-go, is there any particular good in this service?
I'd like to know the dos and the don'ts in general, 'cause I'd like to get two smart girls who know how to play it but not too much smart in terms of chance in ending up scammed, if you know what I mean. [/QUOTE]Coming to this thread late but as I am very much a 3 some fan, here are my thoughts / observations.
1 Pattaya is one of the easiest places in the world to set up a 3some. In general you can think in terms of getting a discount for 2 girls (buy one get a second half price etc) as the majority of girls will see it as relatively easy money for her and her friend.
2 Apart from the genuinely bi girls most girls will be much more comfortable with their friend rather than a second random girl that you select. Typically the second girl will not be as cute as the first one you chose as the first one will be trying to help out her less desirable friend. If you select 2 girls yourself you will probably get 2 hotter girls but there may be friction / jealousy / mistrust etc.
3 90% of the 3somes that take place in Patts are what might be called simulated 3somes. Ie the two girls will fuck you but have only limited / simulated interaction between themselves. Most girls will be happy enough to lick / fondle each other's boobs give you a double blow job etc. They will typically be less keen to lick each other's pussies and if they do so it may be simulated (they will lick through a V shaped two fingers etc) or of limited duration.
4 If you are getting short time girls especially from beach road you need to clarify whether you are expecting to get two pops ie one in each girl. Their idea may be that as soon as you have come once they rush to the bathroom, but on their clothes and head off as the BR girls are generally looking to be over and done with within 45 mins if possible.
5 Finding genuinely bi girls who really do enjoy licking each other's pussies etc is far more challenging. As has been mentioned several times the Devils Den girls are the best trained / most professional in Patts so you should get either genuine or very professionally simulated action there. BUT that is an expensive option.
6 Most of the Gogos and some of the bars will have at least some girls who are more or less genuinely into it. The best approach is probably simply to tell the mamasan what you are looking for and see who she suggests but don't be afraid to shop around till you find girls that you are comfortable with.
7 Many of the freelancers on BR / walking Street and the discos will also be up for it, but you need to discuss exactly what your expectations are and see if they are OK with that.
8 The best option (and the one I always aim for) , is to find a genuinely bi girl and tell her to turn up with her various girl friends or go hunting for girls together. If you can achieve this and get a "genuine" threesome with the girls licking each other until they cum etc it makes the simulated 3 somes seem like eating British food after a trip to France. For obvious reasons it's not so easy to find / cultivate such girls especially if you are a newbie to Pattaya and just on a two week trip etc. Once guys find a girl like this, they tend to stick with her and keep her to themselves.
9 Someone mentioned getting a room at the Penthouse Hotel for a threesome. This is what I generally do to as (1) the place is very girl friendly with no joiners fee for 2 girls (2) the girls are impressed with the decor / atmosphere and are happy to hang around longer and put on a special performance compared with what you will get in bog standard rooms. (3) the rooms have ceiling and wall mirrors so you can check out the ensuing action from all directions. (4) most of the mid priced and up rooms have nicely fitted out walk in showers with mirrors / sitting ledges etc explicitly designed for shower room sex (5) the more expensive rooms have multi person jacuzzis (6) if you are travelling with a buddy you can take a suite / party room and get say 4 girls for a full on orgy.
Hope you find these tips useful.
GregLondon
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[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1112501]Coming to this thread late but as I am very much a 3 some fan, here are my thoughts / observations.
1 Pattaya is one of the easiest places in the world to set up a 3some. In general you can think in terms of getting a discount for 2 girls (buy one get a second half price etc) as the majority of girls will see it as relatively easy money for her and her friend.
2 Apart from the genuinely bi girls most girls will be much more comfortable with their friend rather than a second random girl that you select. Typically the second girl will not be as cute as the first one you chose as the first one will be trying to help out her less desirable friend. If you select 2 girls yourself you will probably get 2 hotter girls but there may be friction / jealousy / mistrust etc.
3 90% of the 3somes that take place in Patts are what might be called simulated 3somes. Ie the two girls will fuck you but have only limited / simulated interaction between themselves. Most girls will be happy enough to lick / fondle each other's boobs give you a double blow job etc. They will typically be less keen to lick each other's pussies and if they do so it may be simulated (they will lick through a V shaped two fingers etc) or of limited duration.
4 If you are getting short time girls especially from beach road you need to clarify whether you are expecting to get two pops ie one in each girl. Their idea may be that as soon as you have come once they rush to the bathroom, but on their clothes and head off as the BR girls are generally looking to be over and done with within 45 mins if possible.
5 Finding genuinely bi girls who really do enjoy licking each other's pussies etc is far more challenging. As has been mentioned several times the Devils Den girls are the best trained / most professional in Patts so you should get either genuine or very professionally simulated action there. BUT that is an expensive option.
6 Most of the Gogos and some of the bars will have at least some girls who are more or less genuinely into it. The best approach is probably simply to tell the mamasan what you are looking for and see who she suggests but don't be afraid to shop around till you find girls that you are comfortable with.
7 Many of the freelancers on BR / walking Street and the discos will also be up for it, but you need to discuss exactly what your expectations are and see if they are OK with that.
8 The best option (and the one I always aim for) , is to find a genuinely bi girl and tell her to turn up with her various girl friends or go hunting for girls together. If you can achieve this and get a "genuine" threesome with the girls licking each other until they cum etc it makes the simulated 3 somes seem like eating British food after a trip to France. For obvious reasons it's not so easy to find / cultivate such girls especially if you are a newbie to Pattaya and just on a two week trip etc. Once guys find a girl like this, they tend to stick with her and keep her to themselves.
9 Someone mentioned getting a room at the Penthouse Hotel for a threesome. This is what I generally do to as (1) the place is very girl friendly with no joiners fee for 2 girls (2) the girls are impressed with the decor / atmosphere and are happy to hang around longer and put on a special performance compared with what you will get in bog standard rooms. (3) the rooms have ceiling and wall mirrors so you can check out the ensuing action from all directions. (4) most of the mid priced and up rooms have nicely fitted out walk in showers with mirrors / sitting ledges etc explicitly designed for shower room sex (5) the more expensive rooms have multi person jacuzzis (6) if you are travelling with a buddy you can take a suite / party room and get say 4 girls for a full on orgy. [/QUOTE]Point 9 is a matter of taste (and of debate). For instance, I usually prefer staying in a large room with white walls and good lightening in another hotel as I like to keep video memories of my sessions, but everybody has his / her own preferences for various reasons. So, apart from the marketing part, I agree on all of your other points (from 1 to 8).
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[QUOTE=Goyave;1112520]Point 9 is a matter of taste (and of debate). For instance, I usually prefer staying in a large room with white walls and good lightening in another hotel as I like to keep video memories of my sessions, but everybody has his / her own preferences for various reasons. So, apart from the marketing part, I agree on all of your other points (from 1 to 8).[/QUOTE]And just to round off to the nearest #10 ideas.
I am not an expert on 3somes and will never claim this title. Only had 2 previous experiences before but just to add from my last 2 outings.
This may not be true to all but happened to me (twice). The girls always insist on changing my condom before doing the 2nd girl and then changing another cover getting back to girl 1 etc. What a hassle. Sure spoiled the 3some mood. Just throwing this info out here as it happen to me so best to ask the girls first before takeout.
FZ
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[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1112501]8 The best option (and the one I always aim for) , is to find a genuinely bi girl and tell her to turn up with her various girl friends or go hunting for girls together. If you can achieve this and get a "genuine" threesome with the girls licking each other until they cum etc it makes the simulated 3 somes seem like eating British food after a trip to France. For obvious reasons it's not so easy to find / cultivate such girls especially if you are a newbie to Pattaya and just on a two week trip etc. Once guys find a girl like this, they tend to stick with her and keep her to themselves.
[/QUOTE]A few times I have managed to find a girl that I enjoyed hanging out with and that didn't form an emotional attachment to me and was happy to bring her friends along for fun session. Alas, I am one of the people that only come for a week or two at a time, and invariably I have found these ladies when there were just a few days of my trip remaining.
It's really good, since the girl will make sure that her friend performs well plus fun to have a "partner in crime" so I agree totally with you GL.
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Visiting Jan 20-28, 2011
I plan to visit Pattaya Jan 20-28. Will anyone else be there? Willing to connect for a few days if any one wants to check the bars together
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Things are tough down here
Thank you Greglondon for detailled reply and all friends who join threads about 3some and exchange.
To be honest, I m just arrived in Pattaya and at the moment I found it very hard to manage a 1 o 1 too!
Because it s long time since I don t have sex I didn t want to throw money in D. D. Or a go-gos the very first days: I know I would blame myself for inevitable lousy sessions so I wanted to pick some freelancers and save money for big time next.
Thing is Walking Street is stuffed by ladyboys (many attractive ones I must say, but I haven t run over 10. 000 km to bring a cock in my bedroom.) and party girls who just want to go dancing and boozing.
Few freelancers picked were shy or wanted to sleep and I was very disappointed. I know things will probably improve when I will turn to go-gos etc but I m on limited budget and I would prefer to rotate one go-go night and one freelancer night. That would be ideal.
Anyway, one question about Devil s Den: from what I read in the website a in-call session with one girl is 2000 bath for 90 mins: is 2000 total or you have to pay for using the room as well? If so, how much?
Also, about soapies a guy suggested me Sabai (I think is the one on the corner of Soi 2 but not sure) saying you can get a great body massage including full sex action for about 1800 bath? Do you confirm? Anything cheaper for same service?
Thanks.
P. S. Of course, I have not given up on 3some. Your tips will not end wasted. I will just move it in next week programme.
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Point 10
[QUOTE=Freezone; 1112535]And just to round off to the nearest #10 ideas.
I am not an expert on 3somes and will never claim this title. Only had 2 previous experiences before but just to add from my last 2 outings.
This may not be true to all but happened to me (twice). The girls always insist on changing my condom before doing the 2nd girl and then changing another cover getting back to girl 1 etc. What a hassle. Sure spoiled the 3some mood. Just throwing this info out here as it happen to me so best to ask the girls first before takeout.
FZ[/QUOTE]I think this is very much the norm in Pattaya FZ. It certainly is something of a passion killer, but in my view is an understandable health precaution for the girls so I don't object.
Re Goyave's point. He is right that opinions re the Penthouse specifically are quite polarized. It's to some guy's style but not to others. Some of the rooms are quite dark so not ideal for videoing others with a lighter floor its not such an issue. Personally the aspect I like the best is the ceiling and wall mirrors which are fun anyway but especially if you are tangled up with 2 cuties and the sex oriented shower rooms. But the main point is that for many guys who don't live in Asia a 3 some is quite a special experience and not an every day activity so in my view it's good to spend a few hundred of baht extra on a memorable room that suits your particular tastes and plans and will also make the girls think they are in an attractive and sexy environment. You are not going to have an equivalent experience if you take a couple of girls to a 200B short term room with a basic crappy bed and grimy sheets.
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[QUOTE=Freezone;1112535]And just to round off to the nearest #10 ideas.
I am not an expert on 3somes and will never claim this title. Only had 2 previous experiences before but just to add from my last 2 outings.
This may not be true to all but happened to me (twice). The girls always insist on changing my condom before doing the 2nd girl and then changing another cover getting back to girl 1 etc. What a hassle. Sure spoiled the 3some mood. Just throwing this info out here as it happen to me so best to ask the girls first before takeout.
FZ[/QUOTE]
That's true and as GregLondon said, it's very much the norm in Pattaya (for the reason he mentioned). It's something that the punter has to manage when he wants to switch from one girl to the other one, but it can be fun (for instance, you can ask one girl to lick your balls while the other one is putting a new condom on your dick).
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[QUOTE=GregLondon;1112758]... But the main point is that for many guys who don't live in Asia a 3 some is quite a special experience and not an every day activity so in my view it's good to spend a few hundred of baht extra on a memorable room that suits your particular tastes and plans and will also make the girls think they are in an attractive and sexy environment. You are not going to have an equivalent experience if you take a couple of girls to a 200B short term room with a basic crappy bed and grimy sheets.[/QUOTE]
Well, actually, I am pretty sure that more than 99% of the hotel rooms in Pattaya are much better than those of the working girls. Maybe not the cheapest short term rooms, but even those are sometimes more comfortable than the girls' own place! IMHO, it's mostly the punter that must feel comfortable in his room, because the room's comfort won't be an issue for the girls who are used to much spartan conditions for them! Most of them come from the rural parts of this country and have slept for years on a slim straw mattress. Of course, some environments are better and more stimulating than others even for the working girls, but according to my own experience, any decent (and clean) room is already very satisfactory for them.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1112745]Anyway, one question about Devil s Den: from what I read in the website a in-call session with one girl is 2000 bath for 90 mins: is 2000 total or you have to pay for using the room as well? If so, how much?[/QUOTE]You are quoting the OUT-call rate. For in-call you need at least 2 girls.
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Sexual H's question
I believe Devil's Den in-call is 3600 Baht for 2 girls all in. Since you are already on the ground I suggest you either swing by and ask them directly or call them. Simple enough.
[QUOTE=Edward M;1112798]You are quoting the OUT-call rate. For in-call you need at least 2 girls.[/QUOTE]
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Current Status
High season sucks! Way too many people around.
Went to my favorite go-go bar. Observed that my favorite girls were already bar fined. Went there again at opening time the next day; they weren't even around.
Ya Baby Dolls at Soi 15 is one of those "fun" go-go bars; I like the way they carve the banana! I also like that the bar fine drops to 300 baht at 1:30 AM.
Went to Super Baby and Super Girl to have some beers and look at some eye candy. The cute girls weren't around.
At 4:30 PM went to Sabai Room and Sabai Land (soapies around Soi 3). Went there without tout; I was quoted 1800 baht at Sabai Room and 1700 at Sabai Land. Around 10-15 girls; talent was marginal; a couple of 5s or 6s; most were ugly. I passed.
Tipping scene seemed to have gone worst. Stupid American tipping culture seemed to have ingrained itself into the Pattaya scene. Now it seems that most people tip; different from before; I see people tip 20 or 40 baht; I tip approx 10 baht. They seemed to be happy with it.
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[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99;1112935]I believe Devil's Den in-call is 3600 Baht for 2 girls all in. Since you are already on the ground I suggest you either swing by and ask them directly or call them. Simple enough.[/QUOTE]True. Thanks both.
Then I ask more properly: is the in-call session with two girls 3600 total or any extra fee for the room?
And: is the out-call session with 1 girl 2000 total or any extra for barfine?
Basically I would like to know the minimum cost of each different session.
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Wow.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1112492]One of the most persistent questions on the LOS punter boards has to do with Russian girls for P4P in Pattaya and Bangkok. Short answer is: there aren't any. There are plenty of attractive Russian tourist girls all over Thailand, but virtually none of them is available for P4P. The girls in the pics below are Ukrainian, which isn't Russian, but a lot closer than Uzbek or Kazak. They work at Galaxy and Lady Shadow on Walking Street, the places where "European Girls Only" dance in the glass booths.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]144808[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]I come to Thailand for the Thai-ladies, but wow. That girl in red (sort of) looked quite good!
Thanks for posting!
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1112993]True. Thanks both.
Then I ask more properly: is the in-call session with two girls 3600 total or any extra fee for the room? [/QUOTE]Total.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1112993]And: is the out-call session with 1 girl 2000 total or any extra for barfine?[/QUOTE]Total.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1112993]Basically I would like to know the minimum cost of each different session.[/QUOTE]Drinks are also reasonable.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1112993]True. Thanks both.
Then I ask more properly: is the in-call session with two girls 3600 total or any extra fee for the room?
And: is the out-call session with 1 girl 2000 total or any extra for barfine?
Basically I would like to know the minimum cost of each different session. [/QUOTE]You can save yourself a lot of time by going to their website which can answer all your questions.
I believe it is [url]www.[/url] Devilsdenpattaya. Com.
LBM
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Devil's Den Website
Their website clearly answers all of your questions.
[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/index.php[/url]
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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1112492]In all, it was an interesting experience to spend time with the Ukrainian girls. I learned a lot about the scene for non-Thai women working on WS. More on that in a later post.[/QUOTE]Very interesting intel EP. Thanks for posting. Funny to hear they don't even BF.
I've never ever considered stepping into Galaxy Club though. Enough info here to deter me.
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[QUOTE=Tim Bone; 1113154]Very interesting intel EP. Thanks for posting. Funny to hear they don't even BF.
I've never ever considered stepping into Galaxy Club though. Enough info here to deter me. [/QUOTE]They can be bar-fined, but they don't deliver with sex. There was a post on a LOS-based board about a guy who paid US$350 to "bar fine" one of the Galaxy dancers, only to find out it only included taking her to dinner and a disco.
What everyone has to remember is that 99% of the customers of Galaxy Club don't get much of a chance to see naked white woman and are willing to pay handsomely for the opportunity. Galaxy has no attraction for a farang punter.
Best advice. Avoid it.
Evil
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[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1112501]Coming to this thread late but as I am very much a 3 some fan, here are my thoughts / observations.
1 Pattaya is one of the easiest places in the world to set up a 3some. In general you can think in terms of getting a discount for 2 girls (buy one get a second half price etc) as the majority of girls will see it as relatively easy money for her and her friend.
2 Apart from the genuinely bi girls most girls will be much more comfortable with their friend rather than a second random girl that you select. Typically the second girl will not be as cute as the first one you chose as the first one will be trying to help out her less desirable friend. If you select 2 girls yourself you will probably get 2 hotter girls but there may be friction / jealousy / mistrust etc.
3 90% of the 3somes that take place in Patts are what might be called simulated 3somes. Ie the two girls will fuck you but have only limited / simulated interaction between themselves. Most girls will be happy enough to lick / fondle each other's boobs give you a double blow job etc. They will typically be less keen to lick each other's pussies and if they do so it may be simulated (they will lick through a V shaped two fingers etc) or of limited duration.
4 If you are getting short time girls especially from beach road you need to clarify whether you are expecting to get two pops ie one in each girl. Their idea may be that as soon as you have come once they rush to the bathroom, but on their clothes and head off as the BR girls are generally looking to be over and done with within 45 mins if possible.
5 Finding genuinely bi girls who really do enjoy licking each other's pussies etc is far more challenging. As has been mentioned several times the Devils Den girls are the best trained / most professional in Patts so you should get either genuine or very professionally simulated action there. BUT that is an expensive option.
6 Most of the Gogos and some of the bars will have at least some girls who are more or less genuinely into it. The best approach is probably simply to tell the mamasan what you are looking for and see who she suggests but don't be afraid to shop around till you find girls that you are comfortable with.
7 Many of the freelancers on BR / walking Street and the discos will also be up for it, but you need to discuss exactly what your expectations are and see if they are OK with that.
8 The best option (and the one I always aim for) , is to find a genuinely bi girl and tell her to turn up with her various girl friends or go hunting for girls together. If you can achieve this and get a "genuine" threesome with the girls licking each other until they cum etc it makes the simulated 3 somes seem like eating British food after a trip to France. For obvious reasons it's not so easy to find / cultivate such girls especially if you are a newbie to Pattaya and just on a two week trip etc. Once guys find a girl like this, they tend to stick with her and keep her to themselves.
Hope you find these tips useful.
GregLondon[/QUOTE]Lots of nice points here Greg and I just have a few points to add.
On the buy one and get one free point, or with a discount, I don't really see this as conducive to a really good threesome. The free or discounted girl might get involved at the start and then just stop leaving her friend to go it alone. Also, if they are good friends or from the same village, it's unlikely that they will get involved in any kind of lesbian activities. They might consider a kiss to be way over the line.
Two hot girls fit more in line when fulfilling a fantasy threesome. Who has a fantasy threesome about one hot one and her dumpy little partner? Although this combination might turn out to be more pleasurable than two hot chicks with attitude.
I've been in situations where the girls have licked each other's pussies and where they haven't. One hot Go-Go dancer I know is a bi. In fact she prefers girls much more than men. From time to time we have threesomes. She might actually want to try one of the dancers herself so she asks me if I am interested. She gets the best of both worlds as she is having fun and I am paying for it. Even though some of these sessions are sometimes experimental they are very good fun especially when the third girl gets the hang of things. Normally alcohol will help her unwind but not too much. If anyone is looking for a bi / lesbian Go-Go or Bar Girl just ask the girls that work there.
The short time sessions never really work for me. In the room you close the door and just get down to it. Some people might like this but for me it's more of a fantasy rush job. I used to do this in the big massage parlours and a few short time bars. In one place the girls told me they were show girls and that they would put on a show for me. This they did and they had dildos and went through their show. I felt like I was in a porn movie as they made all the porn movies noises. Sadly they messed up their performance by speaking Thai to each other about their Thai boyfriends and how they wanted me to come really quickly so they could get back in the bar. Sometimes I don't let the girls know that I can speak Thai. Another session the two girls didn't interact at all. When one was close to an orgasm she sent the other one to the bathroom. One of the most unusual threesomes and, one that I've mentioned before, took place between a mother and her daughters' friend. The mother was OK. About forty and quite sexy. The daughters friend was twenty and very very sexy. But this was more of a training exercise for the daughters' friend. The mother really just looked on, hovered around the bed and advised the daughters' friend what to do. Quite unusual but free so I just went for it.
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Ukranian Girls
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1112492].. an interesting experience to spend time with the Ukrainian girls. I learned a lot about the scene for non-Thai women working on WS.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the report. What would you say an Ukrainian girl could expect to earn working in Thailand? I am wondering how much it would take to attract and keep one as a mistress.
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[QUOTE=Saint Mint;1113227]One of the most unusual threesomes and, one that I've mentioned before, took place between a mother and her daughters' friend. The mother was OK. About forty and quite sexy. The daughters friend was twenty and very very sexy. But this was more of a training exercise for the daughters' friend. The mother really just looked on, hovered around the bed and advised the daughters' friend what to do. Quite unusual but free so I just went for it.[/QUOTE]Dude, why, oh why, did you not go for the mother-daughter threesome fantasy? LOL
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Value go-gos after 1. 30?
[QUOTE=Edward M; 1113061]Total.
Total.
Drinks are also reasonable. [/QUOTE]Ok, maybe it was clear on the website but I must missed this detailed. Thanks Ed for confirm.
I will definitely turn to D. D. Since it seems, all in all, cheaper than go-gos.
I talked yesterday to a guy working at the door of SuperGilrs. It was 2:15, still he quoted me for 600 + 1. 500/3.000.
I don t remember who wrote here some fine go-gos agree to drop BF at 300 after 1. 30 and may also accept to reduce rate to 1. 000/2. 000. Please tell me again exactly which among the best ones are inclined to do so, becuase I reckon 2. 300 is still reasonable. 3.600 NO.
By the way, SuperBaby was crowed of girls and no customer yesterday at that time.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1113758]I talked yesterday to a guy working at the door of SuperGilrs. It was 2:15, still he quoted me for 600 + 1. 500/3. 000.
I don t remember who wrote here some fine go-gos agree to drop BF at 300 after 1. 30 and may also accept to reduce rate to 1. 000/2. 000. Please tell me again exactly which among the best ones are inclined to do so, becuase I reckon 2. 300 is still reasonable. 3.600 NO. [/QUOTE]There's a sign at Baby Dolls go-go which states that the barfine drops to 300 baht at 1:30 AM. Not sure of any other bar that has that official policy.
At any bar, you will need to ask the girl personally if she will reduce her tip requirement. Chances are more likely the uglier she is or later it gets.
The problem with some of the girls (my guess would be the cuter ones) is that some of them will go the discos to pick up another customer; hence they probably won't accept any discount offers.
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Negotiate
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1113758]I talked yesterday to a guy working at the door of SuperGilrs. It was 2:15, still he quoted me for 600 + 1. 500/3.000.[/QUOTE]Don't fall for it. I had a few mamasans tell me that too. This is Asia. Negotiate. I never paid a gogo girl more than 2000 for LT. Also never pay the bar the girl's tip. I had a few ask me to do that as well. I just said,"No. I'll pay her when she leaves," and they quickly acquiesced.
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Warning:SuperGirls+SuperBaby (same owners) have fixed rate for bar fines+ST & LT fees
[QUOTE=Edward M;1114325]Don't fall for it. I had a few mamasans tell me that too. This is Asia. Negotiate. I never paid a gogo girl more than 2000 for LT. Also never pay the bar the girl's tip. I had a few ask me to do that as well. I just said,"No. I'll pay her when she leaves," and they quickly acquiesced.[/QUOTE]Unless somethings changed (which would be great) , at SuperGirls & SuperBaby
- the ST & LT fees are fixed.
- the mamasan requires payment up front (same time you pay the barfine). Of course you could still tip the girl a bonus upon completion of her ST / LT service.
- their policy is the girls only do CBJ.
I've had 2 girls from Superbaby, and though they were hot the service was subpar / starfish and the CBJ was a definite turn-off. I now prefer just to go in to SuperBaby / SuperGirl to have a look at all the hotties, who I think are the best lookers in Pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1114416]Unless somethings changed (which would be great) , at SuperGirls & SuperBaby
- the ST & LT fees are fixed.
- the mamasan requires payment up front (same time you pay the barfine). Of course you could still tip the girl a bonus upon completion of her ST / LT service.
- their policy is the girls only do CBJ.
I've had 2 girls from Superbaby, and though they were hot the service was subpar / starfish and the CBJ was a definite turn-off. I now prefer just to go in to SuperBaby / SuperGirl to have a look at all the hotties, who I think are the best lookers in Pattaya. [/QUOTE]Thank the Japanese for that ridiculous policy!
I can confirm the CBJ rule on one girl I tried to take out. She insisted on CBJ while in the bar, so I refused and pulled out of the deal before paying anything.
Also, I overheard a negotiation going on between a Japanese man and and a girl and the mama got involved and said 2000ST. The Japanese guy was speaking Thai (obviously not a newbie) and informed the mama that a few months ago it was only 1500ST. The mama said that the price had gone up and the guy looked a bit sour, but he didn't hesitate and pulled out 3000 for the total bill (2000ST + 600 bar + drinks).
That is a $100 to get laid for an hour in Pattaya. Complete rip off! I've never seen a girl worth a $100 in Pattaya.
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Visiting Thailand Jan 27-Feb 1
[QUOTE=Allwayson1;1112619]I plan to visit Pattaya Jan 20-28. Will anyone else be there? Willing to connect for a few days if any one wants to check the bars together[/QUOTE]I haven't finalized my trip dates yet, but I should be there between Jan 27th and Feb. 1st. I'd be up for meeting up and making some rounds together.
Only problem is I just found out about this site and am not signed up as a paid member yet since I'm already on my trip (visiting India first) and don't have a way to pay for the membership til I get back home, so I don't know how we can get in touch with each other. If you see this posting in time and want to try to meet, let me know.
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[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1114416]Unless somethings changed (which would be great) , at SuperGirls & SuperBaby
- the ST & LT fees are fixed.
- the mamasan requires payment up front (same time you pay the barfine). Of course you could still tip the girl a bonus upon completion of her ST / LT service.
- their policy is the girls only do CBJ.
I've had 2 girls from Superbaby, and though they were hot the service was subpar / starfish and the CBJ was a definite turn-off. I now prefer just to go in to SuperBaby / SuperGirl to have a look at all the hotties, who I think are the best lookers in Pattaya. [/QUOTE]OK. Thanks.
So, forget SuperBaby & SuperGirl! Which is the best bet around beside them? Alcatraz? Heaven Above?
Meaning: ok cuties, but also reasonable rate?
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Soap Soap Soap!
Hi guys, I met a nice girl in maket yesterday, she told me she works at Oring Massage.
Went there, didn't walked in, just read menu outside.
Though it seems a huge massage spot, no mention about soapy massage.
I remember somebody here reccomended Sabai (where is it?) , but also said it is going to be 1. 700/1. 800 bath for a real one.
Any other else at a more reasonable price?
Cheers!
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SuperGirl and CBJ
[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1114416]Unless somethings changed (which would be great) , at SuperGirls & SuperBaby
-their policy is the girls only do CBJ. [/QUOTE]Did a SuperGirl dancer on Dec. 9ish and got a BJ sans condom.
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[QUOTE=Bill Miami;1104399]Good luck, if you handle this correct you will have the time of your life and be dying to get back the second you have to go to the airport.[/QUOTE]If you took all the girls working in go-gos in Nana and Soi Cowboy combined, and compared that to the ones working on Walking Street, which city would have more?
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[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1114507]Did a SuperGirl dancer on Dec. 9ish and got a BJ sans condom.[/QUOTE]How much? Did you confirm BBBJ before paying bar?
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SuperGirl
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1114534]How much? Did you confirm BBBJ before paying bar?[/QUOTE]Hi Amjeck, I did not discuss the matter beforehand (though should have, as a gogo girl I picked the night before would only do CBJ). The SuperGirl dancer turned out to be great, got the GFE I prefer (breakfast, visit to her flat, movie). The cost was 3000 baht for ST, plus the barfine. No bargain, certainly, but a memorable time and ultimately worth the expense.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1114490]Hi guys, I met a nice girl in maket yesterday, she told me she works at Oring Massage.
Went there, didn't walked in, just read menu outside.
Though it seems a huge massage spot, no mention about soapy massage.
I remember somebody here reccomended Sabai (where is it?) , but also said it is going to be 1. 700/1. 800 bath for a real one.
Any other else at a more reasonable price?
Cheers! [/QUOTE]I don't partake since I don't care for the attitude of the papasans along with they upfront only do CBJ, but both soapies are on 2nd road up towards Big C Central. One is just before Big C on the right and the other is across the street I think Soi 3?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1114490]Hi guys, I met a nice girl in maket yesterday, she told me she works at Oring Massage.
Went there, didn't walked in, just read menu outside.
Though it seems a huge massage spot, no mention about soapy massage.
I remember somebody here reccomended Sabai (where is it?) , but also said it is going to be 1. 700/1. 800 bath for a real one.
Any other else at a more reasonable price?
Cheers! [/QUOTE]I hope it wasn't my girlfriend that you met! I have one who works at O-ring as well who is half Cambodian-half Thai. I actually told her that I would take her to Cambodia with me next month but I'm having second thoughts about bringing sand to the beach. O-ring is not a soapie. It's just a regular massage parlor. But what led me there in the first place was a friend who was a newbie told me that he went there and an older lady who works there hooked him up with her niece (a freebie) and wanted to hook my other friends up as well.
To get to the Sabai soapies just continue down the same street. You will see one on the right before you get to Big C. After that you will see two more on the left. I'm not a soapie guy either but if I was tempted to spend 2000 or 3000 baht for some pussy as some guys on the board do then hell why not go for the 90 minute soapie and get the bath and rub down included for only 1800.
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[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1114416]Unless somethings changed (which would be great) , at SuperGirls & SuperBaby
- the ST & LT fees are fixed.
- the mamasan requires payment up front (same time you pay the barfine). Of course you could still tip the girl a bonus upon completion of her ST / LT service.
- their policy is the girls only do CBJ.
I've had 2 girls from Superbaby, and though they were hot the service was subpar / starfish and the CBJ was a definite turn-off. I now prefer just to go in to SuperBaby / SuperGirl to have a look at all the hotties, who I think are the best lookers in Pattaya. [/QUOTE]Sorry, guys, with respect, none of this is true. Kind of. Let me explain.
I've been going to SB and SG for at least 10 years, if they know you, there are no rules at all. No pay upfront girls tip, no setting of price and no mention of (or actual) CBJ. The manager of both bars are great guys (same old owner and he's ok too though a little bit thai mafia style if you ask me. I approached him and a goon tried to stop me. He later sent a tall Long island Ice Tea over once he found out I was a many years regular). Nearly all of the hostesses in both bars are lovely too, some have been working there for many years. I get huge hugs from most when I arrive first night.
Buy the occasional drink for the bosses or serving girls and you are in. Next time it's total VIP treatment. Don't forget a nice tip for the toilet old ladies too. God they heve been there forever and always remember my name even after 6 months.
Never paid more than B1500 ST and B2500 LT there, though most girls in both bars seem to prefer ST and a few customers a night (reminds me of Rainbow bars in Nana). And most with japs too though they will all happily go with a ferang. Fair play to them. It's their bodies and most of them are lovely so 'up to them'.
Did have a good Indian friend who got the cold shoulder from an amazing girl in SG one time. Oh and from walking street bar too where he was refused entry. Another story, later.
If you want the cheapest don't bother but they are mostly a cut above the average gogo girls, though some of the newer bars are jap oriented too and getting just as good.
My advice. If you like young, mostly big breasted and very pretty girls 'jap style' then put a wee bit effort in over a couple of nights, but a drink for the boss or a serving girl, chat a bit, then a few days later all those "rules" will disappear. Ok you end up paying more but 100B on your bill for a couple of nights will set you up in there for many visits in the future. If they don't then it must just be because I really am a "hansum man" (which I have said all along)! .
JohnTheScot.
P. S. And the nicest girl I've ever met in Thailand worked there. Long story. Probably more suited to Stickman's site rather than the "How cheap can I get it","which atm doesn't charge me a tiny crappy fee","How can I save a few baht on the taxi into Bangkok because I'm a tight fuck" and "who does it up the arse" sites. Hehehe.
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[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1114672]Sorry, guys, with respect, none of this is true. Kind of. Let me explain.
I've been going to SB and SG for at least 10 years, if they know you, there are no rules at all. No pay upfront girls tip, no setting of price and no mention of (or actual) CBJ. The manager of both bars are great guys (same old owner and he's ok too though a little bit thai mafia style if you ask me. I approached him and a goon tried to stop me. He later sent a tall Long island Ice Tea over once he found out I was a many years regular). Nearly all of the hostesses in both bars are lovely too, some have been working there for many years. I get huge hugs from most when I arrive first night.
Buy the occasional drink for the bosses or serving girls and you are in. Next time it's total VIP treatment. Don't forget a nice tip for the toilet old ladies too. God they heve been there forever and always remember my name even after 6 months.
Never paid more than B1500 ST and B2500 LT there, though most girls in both bars seem to prefer ST and a few customers a night (reminds me of Rainbow bars in Nana). And most with japs too though they will all happily go with a ferang. Fair play to them. It's their bodies and most of them are lovely so 'up to them'.
Did have a good Indian friend who got the cold shoulder from an amazing girl in SG one time. Oh and from walking street bar too where he was refused entry. Another story, later.
If you want the cheapest don't bother but they are mostly a cut above the average gogo girls, though some of the newer bars are jap oriented too and getting just as good.
My advice. If you like young, mostly big breasted and very pretty girls 'jap style' then put a wee bit effort in over a couple of nights, but a drink for the boss or a serving girl, chat a bit, then a few days later all those "rules" will disappear. Ok you end up paying more but 100B on your bill for a couple of nights will set you up in there for many visits in the future. If they don't then it must just be because I really am a "hansum man" (which I have said all along)! .
JohnTheScot.
P. S. And the nicest girl I've ever met in Thailand worked there. Long story. Probably more suited to Stickman's site rather than the "How cheap can I get it","which atm doesn't charge me a tiny crappy fee","How can I save a few baht on the taxi into Bangkok because I'm a tight fuck" and "who does it up the arse" sites. Hehehe. [/QUOTE]Shit! Sorry, I've just offended 50% of the readers.
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Best Value: Freelancers
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1114485]OK. Thanks.
So, forget SuperBaby & SuperGirl! Which is the best bet around beside them? Alcatraz? Heaven Above?
Meaning: ok cuties, but also reasonable rate? [/QUOTE]For best value (considering price, looks, service) go with freelancers
- on WS (Walking Street) starting at 7 pm but the majority are out from 10 pm to 2 am.
- at the discos: Marine 1 Disco (not Marine 2) mostly 1 am to 3 am, and Insomnia after 2 am.
- not sure about high-season, but normally I can get them for ST 500 (max. 700) or LT 1, 000 (but 2, 000 for one particularly hottie). Obviously there's no bar fines or lady drinks to deal with.
I prefer the amateur freelancers who only occasionally trick, but otherwise have a non-escort job (cashier, hair salon) , are just vacationing in Pattaya, a student, or unemployed. After that I like freelancers who are finished with their Beer Bar, Go-Go, whatever work shift. The Beach Road (aka Coconut Bar) are mostly pro freelancers (ie they freelance all the time) as are a handful of the girls standing in front of P. 72 Hotel & Restaurant on WS.
My technique is:
- After 7 pm I hang out at one of the open air regular bars on WS so I can get a good view of the girls passing by. I immediately pay for my drink so I can leave at any time.
- When I spot a cutie (s) pass by, I walk towards her and do my script: "Hi, my name's XXX. What's your name. How old are you. Do you want to go with me. ST 500 / LT 1, 000. You smoke (BJ) no condom?" Of course I'm smiling, trying to make the girl comfortable with me. We might haggle a little on the price but if her offer is too high I either cajole her ("My hotel right there. I finish in 5 minutes.") in to accepting a reasonable price or I bid farewell and find another cutie.
- I try to approach the lone girl but sometimes there's several girls. I basically use the same script but I also make eye contact with my target's friends so they don't think I'm rudely ignoring them. There were times when I had to deal with a group of 4 girls, a group of 3 girls and a group of 2 girls. In each of those cases I had to take the entire group to my room to show them how close my hotel was, that the room was decent (Swiss Food Restaurant & Guesthouse) , that I wasn't some psycho killer and basically put the group at ease so they were ok with leaving the target girl with me. (I didn't proposition the entire group because I'm not into threesomes / multiples, my target was typically the cutest girl in the group and I didn't want to pay ST / LT to multiple escorts simultaneously).
- 60% of the time I pick up my freelancers this way. 35% I pick them up from the disco. 5% I'll pick up a Beach Road freelancer.
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[QUOTE=Amex Spg; 1114675]1. My technique is:
2.. I try to approach the lone girl but sometimes there's several girls. I basically use the same script but I also make eye contact with my target's friends so they don't think I'm rudely ignoring them. There were times when I had to deal with a group of 4 girls, a group of 3 girls and a group of 2 girls. In each of those cases I had to take the entire group to my room to show them how close my hotel was, that the room was decent (Swiss Food Restaurant & Guesthouse) , that I wasn't some psycho killer and basically put the group at ease so they were ok with leaving the target girl with me. (I didn't proposition the entire group because I'm not into threesomes / multiples, my target was typically the cutest girl in the group and I didn't want to pay ST / LT to multiple escorts simultaneously). [/QUOTE]1. Wow you must be an amazing pick-up artist with your technique. I've never had a technique. That must be why I can't get laid in Pattaya.
2. This paragraph is hilarious. Are you sure you've ever been to Pattaya? You don't need script. You don't need technique. Fuck the hottie's girlfriend. Eye contact with the friends? Bwah ha ha ha.
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[QUOTE=GreenBud;1113991]There's a sign at Baby Dolls go-go which states that the barfine drops to 300 baht at 1:30 AM. Not sure of any other bar that has that official policy.[/QUOTE]Oasis in Soi Buakaow has different prices based on time, posted in the bar. 300b when it's late.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1114628]I hope it wasn't my girlfriend that you met! I have one who works at O-ring as well who is half Cambodian-half Thai. I actually told her that I would take her to Cambodia with me next month but I'm having second thoughts about bringing sand to the beach. O-ring is not a soapie. It's just a regular massage parlor. But what led me there in the first place was a friend who was a newbie told me that he went there and an older lady who works there hooked him up with her niece (a freebie) and wanted to hook my other friends up as well.
To get to the Sabai soapies just continue down the same street. You will see one on the right before you get to Big C. After that you will see two more on the left. I'm not a soapie guy either but if I was tempted to spend 2000 or 3000 baht for some pussy as some guys on the board do then hell why not go for the 90 minute soapie and get the bath and rub down included for only 1800. [/QUOTE]Easy Mr. Possibly won't step into O-ring, since is not a soapy, so your girlfriend is left alone.
Of course, I tracked Sabai Dee, it's on 2nd Road, corner Soi 2.
I know your point and I will probably drop the 1. 800 for it, just asking if there is any cheaper around. Why not save some if you can? And by the way, are the Sabai Dee girls worth it in terms of look and service?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1114792]Oasis in Soi Buakaow has different prices based on time, posted in the bar. 300b when it's late.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Will pop there to have a look of the line-up.
Thanks Amex SPG for the method but freelancers are not my cup of tea. Beside, it sounds like work to me and I am on holiday.
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Oring Massage
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1114490]Hi guys, I met a nice girl in maket yesterday, she told me she works at Oring Massage.
Went there, didn't walked in, just read menu outside.
Though it seems a huge massage spot, no mention about soapy massage.
I remember somebody here reccomended Sabai (where is it?) , but also said it is going to be 1. 700/1. 800 bath for a real one.
Any other else at a more reasonable price?
Cheers! [/QUOTE]Where exactly is Oring massage, please?
Thanks
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Sabaidee
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1114823]. And by the way, are the Sabai Dee girls worth it in terms of look and service?
Thanks[/QUOTE]The lineup could have changed by now, but I patronized Sabaidee in early December (posted a little about it earlier) and left slightly dissatisfied. I visited on a late morning (so as to have time to recharge for Walking Street gogos at night) and saw a lineup of about 40 girls behind the glass, IMHO 6s to 7s with good size cleavage (if that's your thing, not crucial for me). Picked an Udon Thani spinner, well-toned body, smaller breasts, dark skin with bangs (my goofy fetish). In the room she gave a nice firm massage, checklist routine, on the inflatable mattress. When it came to the act, she would only do CBJ (said it was policy) and had to add a copious amount of lubrication to her small and dry nether region, which ruined any thought of DATY. After the pop she immediately prepped to leave, despite my request that she stay with me the expected 90 minutes. So, the moral of the story is to specify upfront that you'll get the promised time, as well as what you'll get. I complained about being shorted 20 minutes but got nothing but indifference from an older manager, a real tw*t, and a younger but friendlier male manager, who said I should have solicited his recommendations about the girls, as he's done some road testing. We had our discussion in a side room with "models" (don't remember the extra cost) , about 15 of whom I'd say are a little more attractive (7s and 8s) than in the main room. Bottom line: With so many options in Pattaya, I would urge you to stay clear of Sabaidee. There are other soapies in the vicinity, with girls of the same or better caliber.
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[QUOTE=David 2;1114917]Where exactly is Oring massage, please?[/QUOTE]O ring massage is located on Second Road directly across from Soi 13 (whichever soi is the gay street). You will know it because it is on the corner, the motif is orange and white, and there are tanks outside for the fish pedicure as well as flat screen tvs in the window with their advertising.
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So, you are supposed to tell your need to a manager first, rather than to girl herself?
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1114948]We had our discussion in a side room with "models" (don't remember the extra cost) , about 15 of whom I'd say are a little more attractive (7s and 8s) than in the main room.[/QUOTE]Side room? So there is another fishbowl with different range of girls?
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1114948]Bottom line: With so many options in Pattaya, I would urge you to stay clear of Sabaidee. There are other soapies in the vicinity, with girls of the same or better caliber.[/QUOTE]I see. Please just tell me which ones and I will be glad to follow your advice. I have few days left to stay here: I want to make a sure bet!
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1114792]Oasis in Soi Buakaow has different prices based on time, posted in the bar. 300b when it's late.[/QUOTE]Went there yesterday. Not bad. Few cuties, but they were already choosen and on their way to the hotel.
Yet, not very clear what time barfine drops from 700 to 550, and what time from 550 to 300, because writing on the wall is covered by lcd screen hanging above. Don't know why didn't asked to staff and just left, possibly I was upset 'cause my choice was leaving.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1114792]Oasis in Soi Buakaow has different prices based on time, posted in the bar. 300b when it's late.[/QUOTE]Writing on the wall says 700, 550, 300, but couldn't read exactly at which times 'cause there's a lcd screen hanging from the wall partially covering that. Can you tell me more?
Else I will ask myself if I ever feel like coming back. Yesterday I left quickly before it came to my mind to ask as soon as I got pissed when some girls I spotted were already getting dressed and leaving with men who came before me.
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Asian Holiday Escape Week1 & 5. Pattaya
Began and ended my trip at this world class destination. In terms of nightlife, food, accommodations, and daytime activities (especially golf) it does not get better.
First week I stayed at the Sheraton Pattaya on points. Amazing hotel, a little incovenient, defintely girl-friendly. It cost 150-200B to get to Walking Street although there is a shuttle at night.
When barhopping I find myself happier at the smaller intimate bars then the larger packed ones. This leads me to spend a lot of time on Soi Diamond as all of the bars in this area fit that bill. I was surprised at the newer clubs Alcatraz and Faranheit. I liked the vibe at Faranheit and spent some productive time there. I also like the revolving bars on Soi Diamond which can be entertaining and they are a good place for a cigar. They key to these smaller bars is that they change by the week so Naughty girls and the Super Baby bar next to it were great Week 1, but Star and the other Super Baby were better Week 5. BTW my target market is girls that have been in town a month or less. I love being the first farang which happened several times on this trip. The key is to chat up the mamasan when you first sit down and she will usually guide you to the freshness before the wolves start sniffing. It also pays to buy these new girls a little alcohol as you are getting to know them as it loosens things up.
My first week was definitely focused on partying so I did not do much during the day other than recharge by the pool. The best legit massage I found was just outside the entrance to Walking Street called Perfect Massage and second place went to Marine Massage at the top of Soi Marine. For a sexy massage visit one of the places on Soi 6 as I had a regular lunchtime appt with a girl at one of the places there. I also noticed the talent level on Beach Road to be improved. I really enjoy that walk!
I love the street food at Nana on Soi 15 and the spot across from Marine Seafood, I have been going there for 6-7 years and it is great food at a great price.
My last week I stayed at the Grand Hotel based on recommendations in the forum. Decent hotel, best location, great value 1600B, good wifi, and terrible staff (but really did need any help after checkin). I will most likely stay here again. The rooms on the 9th floor are key as they are far enough above Walking Street that it is quiet with slider closed. Great balcony overlooking the action.
I also found time to golf a few times my last week and I regret not golfing more. Pattaya is truly a golfer's paradise and the courses here are top notch. The best deal is to hook up with a golf social club. The one I found was the Golden Ferrett in Pattaya New Plaza. They provide a nice breakfast, transport, prizes, and a beer upon return. They golf at a different place every day. I ended up going with them every other day my last week. St Andrews 2000 was a spectacular course. Golf map attached.
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Sabaidee part 2
[quote=sexual healing; 1115053]so, you are supposed to tell your need to a manager first, rather than to girl herself?
side room? so there is another fishbowl with different range of girls?
i see. please just tell me which ones and i will be glad to follow your advice. i have few days left to stay here: i want to make a sure bet! [/quote]sorry, i'm not an expert on the pattaya soapies. i only visited sabaidee and took peeks at the girls at a couple other places nearby (and i'm just generalizing over looks). as ever with things in thailand, discussing the time issue upfront with the manager won't provide any guarantee, but if you're shorted later you'll at least have a right to complain (for what that's worth; at sabaidee a reasonable complaint might not get you anywhere). at sabaidee, i met the girl at a counter near the fishbowl before we took off to the room. it was here, in front of the manager / male attendant as you pay you ought to mention it, perhaps move your finger around your watchface or somesuch and get a nod of agreement. after the sabaidee visit i realized that gogos and the bars were a lot more fun for me, as i enjoy chatting with the lasses.
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Sabaidee fishbow
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1115053]Side room? So there is another fishbowl with different range of girls?[/QUOTE]Yes. I recall it being to the right, or around a corner from the main fishbowl viewing area. It's possible the girls might not have been assembled by the hour I entered, but there were about 15 lookers by the time I left. As I complained to the young male attendant, I presented myself as a potential repeat customer (though I had no intention) , and he escorted me around the corner. Anyway, enjoy your Pattaya visit. Wish I was there!
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Soi 6 British Thai Girl Working
I was in Pattaya in Soi 6 and heard this Chav girl shouting and running towards me.
She looked Thai but spoke perfect English.
I said OMG are you from Manchester, England?
She said Yes, and told me a story about how she lived in Manchester for 21 years and now living in Pattaya has only been there for 6 months.
She even went to the same college as me in Bolton, England.
We spoke for ages it was really weird.
I said to her I will pay 300 to bar and 1000 for her.
Went to the rooms above the bar, fucked her in the pussy and arse and then went for a shower.
Really sweet girl, she wanted to meet later for drinks, but I felt kinda weird her being British, sounds silly I know :)
Anyways Soi 6 if you are walking up from Beach Road its one of the first bars on the left.
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Oring Massage
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1115051]O ring massage is located on Second Road directly across from Soi 13 (whichever soi is the gay street). You will know it because it is on the corner, the motif is orange and white, and there are tanks outside for the fish pedicure as well as flat screen tvs in the window with their advertising.[/QUOTE]Thanks a million. I really appreciate it.
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[QUOTE=Asheron; 1115229]I was in Pattaya in Soi 6 and heard this Chav girl shouting and running towards me.
She looked Thai but spoke perfect English.
I said OMG are you from Manchester, England?
She said Yes, and told me a story about how she lived in Manchester for 21 years and now living in Pattaya has only been there for 6 months.
She even went to the same college as me in Bolton, England.
We spoke for ages it was really weird.
I said to her I will pay 300 to bar and 1000 for her.
Went to the rooms above the bar, fucked her in the pussy and arse and then went for a shower.
Really sweet girl, she wanted to meet later for drinks, but I felt kinda weird her being British, sounds silly I know.
Anyways Soi 6 if you are walking up from Beach Road its one of the first bars on the left. [/QUOTE]Interesting. She must have a British passport so WTF is she doing working in Pattaya? Holiday?
If she is half decent looking, she would rake it in working as an escort at one of Manchester's many agencies or if she didn't mind slumming it (which she obviously doesn't:)) at one of the better MP's.
Don't understand what she is doing in Pattaya, earning peanuts. Did she explain?
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That was exactly what I was thinking, but did not want to ask too many questions, I remember making a girl cry in the Philippines once by talking about her life and since then I don't probe no more.
All she told me was her mum is Thai and her Dad, but her mum moved to England, where she was born. She lived and studied in England to the age of 21 and now staying in Pattaya and has been for 6 months.
She said she is saving up for a ticket to visit England.
Very very strange, I would say she was average looking not amazing.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1115325]Interesting. She must have a British passport so WTF is she doing working in Pattaya? Holiday?
If she is half decent looking, she would rake it in working as an escort at one of Manchester's many agencies or if she didn't mind slumming it (which she obviously doesn't.) at one of the better MP's.
Don't understand what she is doing in Pattaya, earning peanuts. Did she explain? [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Asheron; 1115361]That was exactly what I was thinking, but did not want to ask too many questions.
She said she is saving up for a ticket to visit England.
Very very strange, I would say she was average looking not amazing. [/QUOTE]Is it is possible she might have some problema with law back home in England and expatriating in her "second" homecountry is a reasonable safegate.
Looks like even if UK born and educate she did not loose the thai genes of easy readiness to be a WG to put money together.
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[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1114565]The cost was 3000 baht for ST, plus the barfine. No bargain, certainly, but a memorable time and ultimately worth the expense.[/QUOTE]2000 (ST girl fee) + 600 (bar fine) =2600 Is that correct or did you have to pay more?
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[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1114565]Hi Amjeck, I did not discuss the matter beforehand (though should have, as a gogo girl I picked the night before would only do CBJ). The SuperGirl dancer turned out to be great, got the GFE I prefer (breakfast, visit to her flat, movie). The cost was 3000 baht for ST, plus the barfine. No bargain, certainly, but a memorable time and ultimately worth the expense.[/QUOTE]You paid 3k ST? WTF!
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[QUOTE=Asheron; 1115361]That was exactly what I was thinking, but did not want to ask too many questions, I remember making a girl cry in the Philippines once by talking about her life and since then I don't probe no more.
All she told me was her mum is Thai and her Dad, but her mum moved to England, where she was born. She lived and studied in England to the age of 21 and now staying in Pattaya and has been for 6 months.
She said she is saving up for a ticket to visit England.
Very very strange, I would say she was average looking not amazing. [/QUOTE]A strange story, but I have met a few bargirls with strong accents, from living for sometime In England, never heard of UK born Thai working as a bargirl though, she might be making good money, but she'd probably make more hooking In the UK, If she was born there she would have a UK passport.
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[QUOTE=Jerboa;1115472]You paid 3k ST? WTF![/QUOTE]Sorry, my mistake in the posting. I paid 3K for LT, which the girl preferred.
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[QUOTE=Asheron;1115229]I said to her I will pay 300 to bar and 1000 for her.[/QUOTE]Hmm, I wouldn't pay 300 extra for her accent.
[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1115141]Writing on the wall says 700, 550, 300, but couldn't read exactly at which times 'cause there's a lcd screen hanging from the wall partially covering that. Can you tell me more?[/QUOTE]I don't remember an LCD screen like that. I didn't note the exact times.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1115800]I don't remember an LCD screen like that. I didn't note the exact times.[/QUOTE]Things must have changed. I eventually asked mamasan and now is 700 for LT at any hour. 350 for ST.
Too bad because I guess 93 was hot, but I would never paid that BF amount.
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Bisex girls in Pattaya
Hi mates,
I'm wondering if anybody of you experts can help me realizing this dream. I am going to Pattaya next week and I'll spend there 4 days during which I would like to have an experence with two girls at the same time. I seeking your advce because, I ould like to have non pro girls, like those who work as freelances at Lucifer or some place like that. Having already been to Pattaya few times, my idea would be to stick to one non pro girl and then along with her find some other lady willing to join us. I think that complicity between the two girls is very important that's why I would like her to be involved in the choice. I am one of those guys who is more in for GFE.
That been said, what you guys would suggest? Is it better to go to soame GoGo or any other professional place, select a girl and then going with her to select some Freelance, or the opposite way is better? Or is better (but most of all possible to di in three days) to have two freelance? Do ypu think is it likely to find two freelance girls who are friend and who wil be willing to stay toghether, or the risk of the scam is very high in this case.
Please give me your suggestion to make this dream come true inthe best way.
Of course I will post my report once back,
Cheers,
A
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Devil's Den. Cake and Rain
Took the bus to Pattaya two days ago and picked Cake and Rain from lineup at DD. They both look more or less like their pictures, Cake is thinner than she looks and Rain has slightly longer hair and is about 5'9". In the room, it was nonstop action, with both girls accomodating to anything you want, including bi action. The mirrors, harness, and movies made it a surreal experience but very fun. Cake is definitely the more GFE of the two but Rain has the most beautiful ass I've ever seen on an asian. There are even some pictures of her body on the hallways of the Heaven Inn. The ambiance made it easy to rise to the experience and I left on wobbly knees at the end. The whole thing was easy to arrange either in person or through booking as the owner (I guess) is an American.
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[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1116093]I eventually asked mamasan and now is 700 for LT at any hour.[/QUOTE]I bet if you're sitting with a girl around 1AM and she wants to be barfined, it will turn out to be 300.
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Dou's
I would honestly say this is a long shot at best. IMO opinion, the odds of finding a non-pro girl who then will find a bi-partner is extremely slim. Probably the best chance of making this plan work is to pick up a non-pro FL the first night and enjoy a long time. If you like, arrange to meet the next night for a quick bite to eat (street side soup will do and keep the budget low). Ply her with a few drinks and then find a beer bar and have some more drinks. Find a bar girl, who is fun to hang with the two of you and I'm sure you're girl will suggest you buy your mutual bar girl friend some lady drinks. After you ply both with drinks, you might get to the point where bar-fine is an option but let your non-pro play with the idea when you suggest it.
It almost worked for me once, except I didn't like the bar girl that my Thai girl liked. Next thing you know, these previous girls have become "sister friends" and each night my girl wanted to go to her bar.
Bottom line, it's a real longshot for non-pros. Just go to Edens or Devil's Den and get your fill or should I say give a couple of fills.
[QUOTE=Spec Boy 75; 1116105]Hi mates,
I'm wondering if anybody of you experts can help me realizing this dream. I am going to Pattaya next week and I'll spend there 4 days during which I would like to have an experence with two girls at the same time. I seeking your advce because, I ould like to have non pro girls, like those who work as freelances at Lucifer or some place like that. Having already been to Pattaya few times, my idea would be to stick to one non pro girl and then along with her find some other lady willing to join us. I think that complicity between the two girls is very important that's why I would like her to be involved in the choice. I am one of those guys who is more in for GFE.
That been said, what you guys would suggest? Is it better to go to soame GoGo or any other professional place, select a girl and then going with her to select some Freelance, or the opposite way is better? Or is better (but most of all possible to di in three days) to have two freelance? Do ypu think is it likely to find two freelance girls who are friend and who wil be willing to stay toghether, or the risk of the scam is very high in this case.
Please give me your suggestion to make this dream come true inthe best way.
Of course I will post my report once back,
Cheers,
A[/QUOTE]
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Going to Pattaya on Jan 29th
Hey guys Ill be there for two weeks starting the 29th. Wondering if anybody want to meet its my first time in Thailand. If you like a wingman to meet the ladies and hang out get back to me.
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I agree. I was there few night ago and no stunners and no hot babes at all. Also, the old manager just told me about blow job no boom-boom as ending after massage and one pop only allowed. 1.800 bath, are you kidding?
Can you tell me which other soapies around I'd better try and what rates?
Please reply promptly: tommorrow is my last day here!
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[QUOTE=Hunglow22;1116288]Hey guys Ill be there for two weeks starting the 29th. Wondering if anybody want to meet its my first time in Thailand. If you like a wingman to meet the ladies and hang out get back to me.[/QUOTE]I will be there for the first time also on the 7th of feb. Staying in a condo for a month. We should meet for a beer.
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[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1116273]I bet if you're sitting with a girl around 1AM and she wants to be barfined, it will turn out to be 300.[/QUOTE]I would never pay a barfine at 1am, better to slip the girl your mobile number and meet up at 2am.
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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1115325]Interesting. She must have a British passport so WTF is she doing working in Pattaya? Holiday?
If she is half decent looking, she would rake it in working as an escort at one of Manchester's many agencies or if she didn't mind slumming it (which she obviously doesn't.) at one of the better MP's.
Don't understand what she is doing in Pattaya, earning peanuts. Did she explain? [/QUOTE]A prostitute in London could charge Ł600 overnight as oppose to Ł30 in Pattaya. No contest surely.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1116543]I would never pay a barfine at 1am, better to slip the girl your mobile number and meet up at 2am.[/QUOTE]Doesn't usually happen this way, I'm afraid. Most girls go to the discos if not barfined, and the bar owners are very strict about girls avoiding the barfine by going with customers this way. I remember waiting outside Happy on many a night; girls would not go with me, afraid of the owner firing them I imagine.
The best thing to do is to trade mobile numbers and have her meet you in the afternoon the next day. I avoided many a barfine this way.
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[QUOTE=Jimmy Red Cab;1116544]A prostitute in London could charge Ł600 overnight as oppose to Ł30 in Pattaya. No contest surely.[/QUOTE]What about living costs (in UK and Thailan). Not much contest, surely.
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Freelancer in Pattaya interested in long time relationships usually don't talk about the price at first.
They try to establish some kind of relationship first.
Some girls are prepared to extend their relationship for a number of days or weeks or even years.
Sometimes the customer ends up spending the entire vacation with one girl and sometimes he comes back.
Sometimes she becomes his mistress or even his wife.
Her stay with the man is usually conditioned upon his readiness to support her or to take care of her, her children and her family financially.
If you see a lady that fits your taste smile at her.
If she smiles back approch her and say 'Hello, '.
In most cases she will ask you 'where you come from', then she will ask your name and likes to know where you stay.
After that Pattaya and nature take their course easily and hassle free.
Wear good and clean clothes.
Look around, in most cases Thai women wear nicer clothes than their counterparts in Western countries.
Take a shower (and use a deodorant) before you go to a bar.
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Have anybody some update in walkingstreet about this new Club ABYZZ open in January 2011? Or any update about nightclub Marine Yensabai Soi Yensabai / Soi 17.
About Russian girl you can find them in mixx nightclub in house trance side. Last time I was in November I get a freelancer from there.
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[QUOTE=Ezcardpm;1116146]Took the bus to Pattaya two days ago and picked Cake and Rain from lineup at DD.[/QUOTE]Ah yes, Macarthur Park.
"Someone took the cake out with the rain"
So now we know who, it was Ezcardpm. ;)
(ok I know, I fudged the lyrics a bit)
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I'll be in Pattaya from this Saturday for a week. If any ISG members would like to meet for drinks and or hunting together, that would be cool. Either pm me or post here please.
Cheers.
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Nice Walking Street video
Here [url]http://amatureasianbabes.com/blog/2011/01/pattaya-and-surrounds/[/url]
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List for newbies
Is there any list of girlie places in Pattaya for newbies in this forum? Thanks a lot.
[QUOTE=Spanishboy 29; 1116634]Have anybody some update in walkingstreet about this new Club ABYZZ open in January 2011? Or any update about nightclub Marine Yensabai Soi Yensabai / Soi 17.
About Russian girl you can find them in mixx nightclub in house trance side. Last time I was in November I get a freelancer from there. [/QUOTE]
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Jasmine house?
Will be back in Pattaya soon and hoping do things a little different to my last visit. About 5 years ago I visited a place which was just on the way out of Pattaya heading towards Jomtien down a small soi on the left, somewhere near Residence garden I think. It was a day time venue with a number of girls working there, a nice place to relax, I remember a girl from there taking me back to my hotel on the back of her motor bike. I have never seen it mentioned in the forum for years, does anyone know if it is still going? It could have been called Jade house instead of Jasmine.
May the force be with you.
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[QUOTE=Matt Psyche;1117147]Is there any list of girlie places in Pattaya for newbies in this forum? Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]There is a pretty comprehensive list on this website: [url]http://www.pattayagogos.com/[/url]
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Soi 6
I have it from an impeccable source (a bargirl) that Soi 6 will be raided by the MiB tonight.
Probably pure bs, but I pass the warning on for what it is worth.
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Sabai Room
I wouldn't normally touch a Pattaya soapy with a barge-pole, but...
I went to Devil's Den yesterday and discovered that my favourite girl had left and was now working in the above soapy. I went to check it out, and they indeed have a girl by the same name, but she was working so I couldn't see the face. I plan to head back there tonight and see if (a) it is the same girl, and (be) if she is as good as she used to be.
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Jet ski scams
On my last trip while walking along the beach near Beach Road a guy offered to rent me a jet ski. The price was pretty good (I forget how much, maybe 500 for 30 minutes) but since I wasn't dressed for it and wasn't planning on it I passed. I had read that there were common scams where someone would rent a jet ski and then when he brought it back there would be all sorts of damage shown and the renter would be intimidated into giving a few thousand baht to cover the damages.
Without me even mentioning the scams the renter said that he was a local and did not scam renters and would take pictures with me and the jet ski before the rental to ensure that I would not be accused of any damage I did not cause.
Like I said I did not make the rental but thought about this later. Unless I crash it why should I be responsible for any damage? It is his job to keep it in working order not mine. If something falls off how do I know it is my fault and not something already broken and flimsily reattached before I took it out? And while we are on the subject are there the same issues with a scooter rental?
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Brief Visit in Jan 2011
I am just back from a few days in Pattaya. Let me share a few highlights. I stayed at the Tim Boutique Hotel and was pleased with the price, quality of service and location. I would recommend you ask for a room on the front side of the hotel and take ear plugs, just in case it as noisy as the back side. I arrived late on Friday and had planned to go straight to bed but decided on a quick look around. The hotel is just off Second Road near The Avenue. Step out of the Soi, make a right and you are almost in front of Hotties Beer bar. I did and saw a stunning girl in front of the bar on a stool looking very bored. I went past and returned. She claimed to be 19 and that this was her first night on the job. I asked the bar and they confirmed that she was 19 and had I'd. I made her for maybe 15. My Humbert Humbert personality took over. I paid the 300B bar fine and took her to the hotel. She did not have an I'd. The hotel was not pleased, nor was I. I apologized and said I would take her back.
In the Soi she suggested we go to a short time room on Soi Post Office that she just happened to see on this her first day in Pattaya. I agreed. The room was 250, she was 700, for a total of 1250 with the bar fine. Once in the room, she disrobed, took me to the shower, washed me, took me to the bed, and provided a level of sexual satisfaction normally associated with a more mature woman. She did not hesitate with a BBBJ, various positions, and DATY. Her skills said late 20's, she said 19, and her body said 15. We finished with 5 minutes left on the room, quickly washed and hurried down stairs to avoid additional charges. I did not see her again at the bar.
The next day I trolled the Beach Road around 12 noon. I saw 3 possibilities but when I returned they were gone. I realize this is not prime time but I wanted something early in the day. I walked over to Soi Post Office. The Pump House was open and I had always wanted to give a BJ place a try. A nice looking girl told me the package (bar fine, upstairs room, and her fee) would be 875 for BBJ and CIM. I agreed and we went upstairs. I enjoy new sexual adventures but this is one I would not repeat. The girl was not skilled and had trouble understanding the difference between sucking and chewing. I finally had her hold my head in her mouth while I jerked off to the point of climax and then skull fucked her. I may have simply picked the wrong girl. Better luck to you if you stop at the Pump House.
In the evening I was lazy so I walked out to Second Road and made an immediate left into Tim Go Go, same people as the hotel. The 'dancing' girls looked as excited as someone watching paint dry. A guy tossed a wad of 20 B bills on the stage for the only excitement of the evening. The rock videos were nice but when Axl Rose is more appealing than the dancing girls then you are in a true dead zone. I decided to take Sa, a hostess, back to the hotel. The cost of being lazy was 600 to the bar and 1000 to her. She was outstanding. She was probably early 30s, a firm body, and a good understanding of how to give a high quality GFE. She asked to stay but I told her I was a bad butterfly. She gave me a full body massage and asked again. Same answer. We had a nice 2 ˝-3 hours with BBBJ and two intense ejaculations.
On day 3 I checked out Sunee Plaza, Boyztown, and some ladyboy bars before opening time and then walked over to the Beach Road. I have a wide range of sexual interests. I only saw one girl and I should have taken her. She was gone when I returned. In the evening, I checked out the Walking Street. What a change from 10 years ago. I thought I was in the Las Vegas of sex. Maybe I am getting old but I liked the old Walking Street better. I went back to Second Road for a foot massage and was in bed by 12 midnight. I wish I had not wasted the day.
On day 4, I went to Soi Yamato to visit two ladyboy bars. Both La Bamba and Stringfellows A Go Go were well stocked. I liked one near the La Bamba entrance. She said for 700, including the upstairs room, I could do anything I liked. So I did. After giving her a hard ass fucking, I exploded in her mouth. I realize ladyboys are not for everyone but it was on my bucket list and Pattaya is for doing what you like.
My 5 days were gone far too quickly and I had a late taxi to Bangkok. I trolled the Beach Road one last time. I found a tall girl from Sri Lanka with a rich brown skin the color of café latte. She had huge breasts that I had not really noticed under her native dress. Her skin was soft like velvet. She asked for 1000. I am sure she would have gone for less just to get out of the heat. She spent some 3 hours with me giving me a BBBJ with no hint from me. We finished DS and my too brief trip was over.
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[QUOTE=Edward M; 1117274]I had read that there were common scams where someone would rent a jet ski and then when he brought it back there would be all sorts of damage shown and the renter would be intimidated into giving a few thousand baht to cover the damages.
Like I said I did not make the rental but thought about this later. Unless I crash it why should I be responsible for any damage? It is his job to keep it in working order not mine. If something falls off how do I know it is my fault and not something already broken and flimsily reattached before I took it out? And while we are on the subject are there the same issues with a scooter rental? [/QUOTE]They showed that scam when the series Big Trouble in Thailand aired. A marine had rented one and the shore patrol guy had to come get him out of trouble. Before he showed up the guy had already offered an amount to the scammer so shore patrol told him to go ahead and give him the money and drop it. I think he had gotten him for about US$300. The scammer had taken out a shot gun and was threatening him.
First, you always want to thoroughly inspect the craft before accepting it. Second, I always rent from the same person to avoid these things. Once my wingman was riding and the left side of the handle bars had completely broken off at a point about 7 inches from the end. As you said why should someone who is renting for half an hour be responsible for normal wear and tear? But I guess that is Thailand. He ended up rigging it to stay attached long enough for us to get out of there and not be blamed for it.
Another time we were riding and my engine would not start. The helper came out and told me to get on with my wingman to go back to shore. When I pulled myself up his flipped over. I got back on and the helper told my wingman to pull himself up on the back. Well he is over 300 pounds and when he tried it the bar he was holding on to broke and we turned over once again. The helper ended up having to tow him back to the shore while he was in the water holding onto a strap on the bottom rear of the jet ski. Joom wanted us to pay 500 baht for the handle but I told her that it was her helper who told him to try to get on that way so we are not paying anything extra. There was no bad blood between us because she knows I will be back again and again and will bring friends.
As far as scooter rentals, I have neither experienced nor heard of any scams. But for that as well I usually use the same people too. You can buy a new one for about US$1500, but I heard that you can get a used one at the auction for about US$300. I'm thinking about exploring that option because right now I pay US$100 / month to rent one.
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[QUOTE=Allwayson1;1117327]On day 4, I went to Soi Yamato to visit two ladyboy bars....[/QUOTE]Dude. You are NOT supposed to report on ladyboys on this forum in the fashion that you have just done in your post. That is a big NoNo. I suspect Jackson will be deleting your post very soon.
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[QUOTE=Allwayson1;1117327]In the evening, I checked out the Walking Street. What a change from 10 years ago. I thought I was in the Las Vegas of sex.[/QUOTE]That is exactly how I describe Walking Street to people. It's like the Las Vegas strip but without the gambling.
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[QUOTE=Allwayson1; 1117327]On day 4, I went to Soi Yamato to visit two ladyboy bars. Both La Bamba and Stringfellows A Go Go were well stocked. I liked one near the La Bamba entrance. She said for 700, including the upstairs room, I could do anything I liked. So I did. After giving her a hard ass fucking, I exploded in her mouth. I realize ladyboys are not for everyone but it was on my bucket list and Pattaya is for doing what you like.[/QUOTE]Hahahah I for one don't have any problem with his post- I would not pay a ladyboy that much for anything and they are usualy drug addicted and will steel anything not nailed down, but to each his own.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1117410]That is exactly how I describe Walking Street to people. It's like the Las Vegas strip but without the gambling.[/QUOTE]Or the cars. Or the glitzy hotels. But with bars. ANd cheap beer. And lots of Thai bargirls. And open-air discos.
Are you being serious? :)
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1117403]They showed that scam when the series Big Trouble in Thailand aired. A marine had rented one and the shore patrol guy had to come get him out of trouble. Before he showed up the guy had already offered an amount to the scammer so shore patrol told him to go ahead and give him the money and drop it. I think he had gotten him for about US$300. The scammer had taken out a shot gun and was threatening him.[/QUOTE]Remember that prog (and putting a big mental tick in the 'don't rent jet ski's in Thailand' box) but didn't that incident happen in Phuket rather than Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1117406]Dude. You are NOT supposed to report on ladyboys on this forum in the fashion that you have just done in your post. That is a big NoNo. I suspect Jackson will be deleting your post very soon.[/QUOTE]
True, but it was an entertaining report (and we are all big boys here, after all) plus we all know that many normal hetero guys try it for the experience, whilst in town.
Jackson will delete, but only if an offended member reports it.
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Often it's not possible to inspect the jet ski because it's sitting in the water, and most of the typical kinds of damage would occur under the water line. In Phuket at least, the jet ski scam is rife. Saw more undercover tv reports of it again recently, some Aussie tour groups that got hit for thousands. They hadn't crashed or anything. It was 100% pure scam. The J. J. Incident on Big Trouble in Thailand, pretty sure the soldier agreed to an amount much larger than just $300. The British military's policy is to order its soldiers not to rent any jet skis, period. I tend to agree.
While there was a big thing about it back when that Big Trouble tv show aired (over a year ago) , promises were made by Phuket's local govt to clamp down. You can guess how that turned out.
So yes that was Phuket. I don't know if the same scam is run in Pattaya or elsewhere -- my desire to rent a jet ski just doesn't top my fear of being scammed for thousands of dollars by some criminal. Not worth the risk, not anywhere.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1117403]They showed that scam when the series Big Trouble in Thailand aired. A marine had rented one and the shore patrol guy had to come get him out of trouble. Before he showed up the guy had already offered an amount to the scammer so shore patrol told him to go ahead and give him the money and drop it. I think he had gotten him for about US$300. The scammer had taken out a shot gun and was threatening him.
First, you always want to thoroughly inspect the craft before accepting it. Second, I always rent from the same person to avoid these things. Once my wingman was riding and the left side of the handle bars had completely broken off at a point about 7 inches from the end. As you said why should someone who is renting for half an hour be responsible for normal wear and tear? But I guess that is Thailand. He ended up rigging it to stay attached long enough for us to get out of there and not be blamed for it. [/QUOTE]
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BTW, from [url]http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2010/10/12/phuket-jet-ski-frauds-the-real-truth/[/url]
[quote]Gavin Hill, who faced allegations made to police by JJ (who was subsequently arrested for extorting 35,000 Baht of the Royal Marines) that he had set up an earlier incident with the Royal Marines, who were seen to be held at gunpoint, today released more footage obtained during the filming of ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ as the controversy raged across Thai TV stations.[/quote]Also came across some other incidents where JJ got much more from other scam victims (including a group of US marines on R&R). Here's one from this past week: [url]http://phuketwan.com/tourism/aussies-ripped-phuket-jet-ski-scam-13571/[/url] (for 56,000 baht - and not JJ on this one)
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In Pattaya now a days most of the Jet Ski scams victims seems to be Indians. Its no use going to main Pattaya police station and complaining or even going to the mayor or even Bangkok. The money trail goes to big mafia's and politicians. If they want, they could clear these thugs in couple of hours. The very reason they are allowed to operate is they are paying 50% of the loot to higher up authorities to look other way.
Those who operate the scams are no bodies, there strings are pulled from higher ups. Pattaya police seems to spend there resource and energy on non-existent drugs and 350+ police raids on Soi 6 bars. What is making them move across few meters down the road and busting these thugs.
I don't think its ever going to stop with words, unless these thugs mess with a wrong guy one day and in his outrage he takes his 9mm and shoots 5 in their head.
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[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1117628]In Pattaya now a days most of the Jet Ski scams victims seems to be Indians. Its no use going to main Pattaya police station and complaining or even going to the mayor or even Bangkok. The money trail goes to big mafia's and politicians. If they want, they could clear these thugs in couple of hours. The very reason they are allowed to operate is they are paying 50% of the loot to higher up authorities to look other way.
Those who operate the scams are no bodies, there strings are pulled from higher ups. Pattaya police seems to spend there resource and energy on non-existent drugs and 350+ police raids on Soi 6 bars. What is making them move across few meters down the road and busting these thugs.
I don't think its ever going to stop with words, unless these thugs mess with a wrong guy one day and in his outrage he takes his 9mm and shoots 5 in their head. [/QUOTE]That Drummond actually says some things along these lines in his report on that same site..that basically it's rich higherups running the whole thing, and we just see the cashiers who deal with the live customers. Obviously investigation isn't going to be done by Thai journalists, it's left to us. But can't be that hard to follow the money with a bit of clever detective work and questioning. Some smarter investigation of the actual scammers could easliy be done. For example, have someone play the gullible tourist and show up, and actually inspect the jetski (on hidden camera) and identify the 'damage' before taking the jet ski out, with the operator acknowledging the damage on camera. Then have a colleague sit nearby on the beach waiting for the first victim to arrive and show them actually accusing the new person of causing that same damage, not long after they've already acknowledged that the same damage was there on camera, before this customer ever arrived. And monitor the place. I'm sure these operators themselves are the ones who actually inflict the 'damage'. So it means they probaby wouldn't really go do the repair at all. So showing them renting out the same jetski after they've received payment for this damage, it's a pretty open and shut case what they're doing.
Can follow the money trail easily enough. Surely the JJ types would let out who they work for after a few drinks. Then arrange an interview with the big shot on some pretense and surprise him on camera with the real evidence you've dug up for his 'reaction' (probably ending the interview and running away. Post on youtube, the end. Massive loss of face for the prick. Similar type questioning for the governor in charge who's really trying to let them get away with this and give them cover. Enough rounds of this and then we might see change.
That Big Trouble episode is the kind of thing Thailand needs a lot more of. But it needs more effective journalism. Dots actually connected, the real players shamed on camera (not just the JJ's).
Another angle to work this would be for many people to complain to their hotels, an email and in person complaint campaign. If enough noise happens, coupled with visitor numbers dropping drastically, that might finally have some effect.
I'm surprised one of these groups of marines haven't organized themselves and pulled an all out attack on these guys yet. They could easily overcome their numbers. I don't think Thailand wants an international incident (with their mafia underlings in shooting foreign soldiers) being sparked by stupid little jetski scams.
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[QUOTE=Wendella; 1117961]That Drummond actually says some things along these lines in his report on that same site. That basically it's rich higherups running the whole thing, and we just see the cashiers who deal with the live customers. Obviously investigation isn't going to be done by Thai journalists, it's left to us. But can't be that hard to follow the money with a bit of clever detective work and questioning. Some smarter investigation of the actual scammers could easliy be done. For example, have someone play the gullible tourist and show up, and actually inspect the jetski (on hidden camera) and identify the 'damage' before taking the jet ski out, with the operator acknowledging the damage on camera. Then have a colleague sit nearby on the beach waiting for the first victim to arrive and show them actually accusing the new person of causing that same damage, not long after they've already acknowledged that the same damage was there on camera, before this customer ever arrived. And monitor the place. I'm sure these operators themselves are the ones who actually inflict the 'damage'. So it means they probaby wouldn't really go do the repair at all. So showing them renting out the same jetski after they've received payment for this damage, it's a pretty open and shut case what they're doing.
Can follow the money trail easily enough. Surely the JJ types would let out who they work for after a few drinks. Then arrange an interview with the big shot on some pretense and surprise him on camera with the real evidence you've dug up for his 'reaction' (probably ending the interview and running away. Post on youtube, the end. Massive loss of face for the prick. Similar type questioning for the governor in charge who's really trying to let them get away with this and give them cover. Enough rounds of this and then we might see change.
That Big Trouble episode is the kind of thing Thailand needs a lot more of. But it needs more effective journalism. Dots actually connected, the real players shamed on camera (not just the JJ's).
Another angle to work this would be for many people to complain to their hotels, an email and in person complaint campaign. If enough noise happens, coupled with visitor numbers dropping drastically, that might finally have some effect.
I'm surprised one of these groups of marines haven't organized themselves and pulled an all out attack on these guys yet. They could easily overcome their numbers. I don't think Thailand wants an international incident (with their mafia underlings in shooting foreign soldiers) being sparked by stupid little jetski scams. [/QUOTE]I agree totally. The tour operators and hotels should warn occupants of dangers of hiring jet ski's in Thailand. Its just one A4 size print out away from tourists to be more careful.
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Getting Pattaya to Penthouse Hotel?
Hello everyone,
I will be taking Bus from Sukhumvit Road to Pattaya, and will be Staying at "Penthouse Hotel"
How ever, can anybody tell me where shall I get off in Pattaya or give me some inofrmations how can I get to.
My hotel from the bus stations?
Thanks!
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From Pattaya Bus stations to PentHouse?
Hello everyone!
I will be staying in Penthouse hotel and can anyone tell me Where shall I get off from the bus ride from Bangkok and
What kind of transportations are available to my hotel from Pattaya bus sations?
Thank You!
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Hit loads of bars on walking street the other night. Was a nice refreshing change from the high prices and bad attitudes in Bangkok.
Babydolls. Gone way downhill in my opinion. Not many lookers up on stage. 1500 for ST, and I assume this can sometimes be negotiated.
Alcatraz. Not sure what the big deal is here. Yeah, the girls are hot, but they aren't naked or anything, and it's expensive. The models are 2, 000 baht barfine and 2, 000 baht ST. I do like the little details. Check bins come in a tin cup, and it's nicely decorated, but a bit too pricey.
What's Up. Best shows in Pattaya; puts the BKK shows to shame. Lots of fake titties and I"m not sure what the deal is for taking a girl out. One girl quoted 2, 000 barfine and 1, 000 to her for ST. Another quoted 800 barfine and 2, 000 to her. Some really hot girls in here, though.
Airport. More hot girls here, and a lot of them have really big hair for some reason. A girl in the tub offered me 1, 000 ST but she was gone when I came back later.
Finally just grabbed a girl out of Lucifer's for 1000 ST and she was fantastic.
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[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1118217]Hit loads of bars on walking street the other night. Was a nice refreshing change from the high prices and bad attitudes in Bangkok.
Babydolls. Gone way downhill in my opinion. Not many lookers up on stage. 1500 for ST, and I assume this can sometimes be negotiated.
Alcatraz. Not sure what the big deal is here. Yeah, the girls are hot, but they aren't naked or anything, and it's expensive. The models are 2, 000 baht barfine and 2, 000 baht ST. I do like the little details. Check bins come in a tin cup, and it's nicely decorated, but a bit too pricey.
What's Up. Best shows in Pattaya; puts the BKK shows to shame. Lots of fake titties and I"m not sure what the deal is for taking a girl out. One girl quoted 2, 000 barfine and 1, 000 to her for ST. Another quoted 800 barfine and 2, 000 to her. Some really hot girls in here, though.
Airport. More hot girls here, and a lot of them have really big hair for some reason. A girl in the tub offered me 1, 000 ST but she was gone when I came back later.
Finally just grabbed a girl out of Lucifer's for 1000 ST and she was fantastic. [/QUOTE]I agree, the show last night at What's Up was really good.
And some hot girls at the Airport Go Go. In my opinion the shower girls are the better looking and the sexiest.
Happy Go Go is not so good anymore. Didn't see any there to want to bar fine.
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[QUOTE=Hanny; 1118202]Hello, everyone!
I will be staying in Penthouse hotel and can anyone tell me Where shall I get off from the bus ride from Bangkok and
What kind of transportations are available to my hotel from Pattaya bus sations?
Thank You! [/QUOTE]You get off at the bus station. A tax-driver will probably approach you and ask where you're going, and offer you a lift for 100-200bht in the back of his van (baht-bus). It all works pretty well.
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[QUOTE=Butter69;1118297]Happy Go Go is not so good anymore. Didn't see any there to want to bar fine.[/QUOTE]Happy slipped in ranks a long time ago. It's good if you like hard pros.
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[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1118217]A girl in the tub offered me 1, 000 ST but she was gone when I came back later.
Finally just grabbed a girl out of Lucifer's for 1000 ST and she was fantastic. [/QUOTE]Glad to see prices aren't Astronomical during this high season. I've not paid more than 1000ST for anything (gogo, freelance, beer bar) this month in Pat. Keep us updated on pricing, thanks.
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[QUOTE=Hanny; 1118202]Hello, everyone!
I will be staying in Penthouse hotel and can anyone tell me Where shall I get off from the bus ride from Bangkok and
What kind of transportations are available to my hotel from Pattaya bus sations?
Thank You! [/QUOTE]Penthouse Hotel? Yuck! Right in the middle of gay town.
If you take the bus from Ekamai Bus Station (Soi 63) , then the bus will drop you off at the Pattaya Bus Station in north Pattaya. You can get a private Songthaew. Or you can share; as you leave the bus, there will be shared songthaews that people from the bus will use.
The cheapest option will be to cross the street, and wait for a songthaew for 10 baht. One songthaew should get you to that soi before walking street where the penthouse hotel is at. But the songthaew might take a difficult route. The songthaew you want will go straight to beach road and it will turn left; then it will go straight; get off before walking street.
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[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1117171]Will be back in Pattaya soon and hoping do things a little different to my last visit. About 5 years ago I visited a place which was just on the way out of Pattaya heading towards Jomtien down a small soi on the left, somewhere near Residence garden I think. It was a day time venue with a number of girls working there, a nice place to relax, I remember a girl from there taking me back to my hotel on the back of her motor bike. I have never seen it mentioned in the forum for years, does anyone know if it is still going? It could have been called Jade house instead of Jasmine.
May the force be with you. [/QUOTE]I believe it is closed for a long time. The sign on the main road is gone for at least 2 years.
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[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1118454]Penthouse Hotel? Yuck! Right in the middle of gay town.
If you take the bus from Ekamai Bus Station (Soi 63) , then the bus will drop you off at the Pattaya Bus Station in north Pattaya. You can get a private Songthaew. Or you can share; as you leave the bus, there will be shared songthaews that people from the bus will use.
The cheapest option will be to cross the street, and wait for a songthaew for 10 baht. One songthaew should get you to that soi before walking street where the penthouse hotel is at. But the songthaew might take a difficult route. The songthaew you want will go straight to beach road and it will turn left; then it will go straight; get off before walking street.[/QUOTE]Yuck! The gayest expression I've read on this forum for a long time.
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Pattaya Experience
While coming from Bangkok's Ekamai Bus Station, I got down at the Pattaya Bus Station in North Pattaya. I didn't know how to go to Beach Road or Walking Street side. I enquired with people around. They told me that I have to book a hotel first then only I can go. They directed me towards an agency few metres away. I enquired about hotels. They showed me an album with lots of hotels. I asked them about Penthouse hotel. They told me they don't deal with this hotel.
I came out and saw few foreigners in a mini bus type of vehicle. I joined them. I paid 20 baht. I observed very well throughout the journey. While travelling along the beach, I guessed it was the Beach Road. I travelled till the end of Beach Road before it takes a left turn. I got down and was surprised to see so many hotels. I was so tired that the first hotel I saw, I just went in. It was Serene Hotel. I paid 700 baht.
Later I came, to know better about Pattaya. I stayed for 3 nights in Serene Hotel and 1 night in Penthouse Hotel. During three consecutive nights I took one girl from Beach Road to my Room without any hassle. But the problem is that they are not keen for overnight stay.
I'm planning to visit Pattaya again but for a longer period this year in July or August and I would wish that someone helps me by suggesting a better hotel for three weeks.
Thanks
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Airport Club A-go-go
stopped in at the airport club on walking street last night to see what all the fuss is about. nothing much was happening at 8:30pm. there were 3 or 4 average looking, up in age, fully covered pole dancers on the stage and no action yet in the tub. a few other customers were rep001tered around the small narrow room.
there was at least 10 female wait staff dressed in stewardess costumes. they seemed to be all drinking shooters and partying together right beside me, maybe to celebrate a birthday or something. one of them approached me and said something but ran off without taking my drink order. another was leaning against the stage directly in front of me. after about 5 minutes, i just got up slowly, made eye contact with the one in front of me, did a shoulder shrugging gesture, and walked out of the bar. i figured if the service was this bad, the rest of the action would be likewise. i won't be going back there for a while.
i like bars where the staff walks you to a seat from the moment you arrive, puts a coaster down and takes your drink order right now. plenty of those in pattaya.
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[QUOTE=Chrispet;1118597]Yuck! The gayest expression I've read on this forum for a long time.[/QUOTE]My accurate info I gave is the gayest you've read? ; not the comments about the ladyboys on this hetersexual board?
I would not have replied if you have given any relavent info in your previous posts. Most of your comments is in regards to the Penthouse Hotel.
It seems correct that some other poster made; there are several posters (probably the same group) that constantly defend and attack any post that puts up any disparaging remark about the Penthose Hotel.
If the manager of that hotel uses a persona poster that gives a lot of good valid info, I will not reply.
Chrispet: you have given jack shit info. So [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off and shove your useless comment up your ass; although it probably will be full.
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British Thai WG
[QUOTE=Asheron; 1115229]I was in Pattaya in Soi 6 and heard this Chav girl shouting and running towards me.
She looked Thai but spoke perfect English.
I said OMG are you from Manchester, England?
She said Yes, and told me a story about how she lived in Manchester for 21 years and now living in Pattaya has only been there for 6 months.
She even went to the same college as me in Bolton, England.
We spoke for ages it was really weird.
I said to her I will pay 300 to bar and 1000 for her.
Went to the rooms above the bar, fucked her in the pussy and arse and then went for a shower.
Really sweet girl, she wanted to meet later for drinks, but I felt kinda weird her being British, sounds silly I know.
Anyways Soi 6 if you are walking up from Beach Road its one of the first bars on the left. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I will look for this broad. I love the exotic of exotics. Any hints on where I can find an Afro Thai woman?
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[quote=daddy07; 1118730]stopped in at the airport club on walking street last night to see what all the fuss is about. nothing much was happening at 8:30pm. there were 3 or 4 average looking, up in age, fully covered pole dancers on the stage and no action yet in the tub. a few other customers were rep001tered around the small narrow room.
there was at least 10 female wait staff dressed in stewardess costumes. they seemed to be all drinking shooters and partying together right beside me, maybe to celebrate a birthday or something. one of them approached me and said something but ran off without taking my drink order. another was leaning against the stage directly in front of me. after about 5 minutes, i just got up slowly, made eye contact with the one in front of me, did a shoulder shrugging gesture, and walked out of the bar. i figured if the service was this bad, the rest of the action would be likewise. i won't be going back there for a while.
i like bars where the staff walks you to a seat from the moment you arrive, puts a coaster down and takes your drink order right now. plenty of those in pattaya. [/quote]well that's different than my experience as i am usually annoyed at some moron at the door grabbing my arm or gently (or not) pushing me to a seat as i peruse the scene deciding whether its worth sitting down or moving on and i would usually prefer the 'service' you received i think. and i've never noticed a correlation between waitstaff service and go-go girl sexual service but maybe your right and i will have to keep it in mind next time i pull...
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Daddy knows best
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1118730].I like bars where the staff walks you to a seat from the moment you arrive, puts a coaster down and takes your drink order right now. Plenty of those in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Daddy: Would you offer a short list of some of your preferred venues for ISG readers?
It would save some folks a lot of "trial and error," and you would be helping facilitate a good time!
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[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1118900]Daddy: Would you offer a short list of some of your preferred venues for ISG readers?
It would save some folks a lot of "trial and error," and you would be helping facilitate a good time! [/QUOTE]Sure, glad to oblige.
Keep in mind though, that my tastes probably differ from yours and others.
Here are a few of my more recent reports about Pattaya bars. Baccara is still the best happy hour value IMHO. The quality of the girls is superior; the drinks are inexpensive; service is excellent, but they allow smokers, which is a big drawback. Same for Happy, but the quality of girls has declined there recently, (that can change overnight) , and the smokers drive me right out the door.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1031136&viewfull=1#post1031136[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2184-General-Reports&p=1091747&viewfull=1#post1091747[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1085812&viewfull=1#post1085812[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1055118&viewfull=1#post1055118[/url]
Right now my favorite bar is SuperBaby for after happy hour fun. Service is top notch; drinks are reasonable; smoking is not allowed; and the girls are almost all lovely young sweethearts who look like they just got off the bus after school – Daddy's girls!
SuperGirl is also good, lots of cuties, but it's difficult to find a good seat to take in all the action. I'm told that Champion has improved recently in quality of girls, so I'll be visiting there soon.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1118952]I'm told that Champion has improved recently in quality of girls, so I'll be visiting there soon.[/QUOTE]It hasn't; I was there Saturday night and it was full of dogs. We quickly drank our beers and left.
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[QUOTE=Mangofan;1118955]It hasn't; I was there Saturday night and it was full of dogs. We quickly drank our beers and left.[/QUOTE]Usually you'll find at least one or two cuties in the many of the bars but not in Champion. I saw the same thing you did last week but wouldn't call them dogs as my dog is quite gorgeous. Some girls in Champion are way past their expiration date but the remarkable thing is despite their looks these girls do get BF with some frequency. Just goes to show that there's someone for everyone and our tastes are all so different.
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Tastes differ!
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1118952]Sure, glad to oblige.
Keep in mind though, that my tastes probably differ from yours and others. [/QUOTE]Daddy's post with his preferred venues is good BUT, as he says 'Keep in mind though, that my tastes probably differ from yours and others'
We all get turned on by different things both in a playmate or venue.
Thin or Chubby, Tall or short. Big boobs or tiny. Dark skin or light. Shaved or furry. There are so many variations in the likes and dislikes of us guys that it is impossible to generalize.
Same with a bar / Go-go. Different guys like different things.
See report #6839 on Airport in Walking St. Two guys with very different views of the same Go-go!
And then, to complicate things even more, the bar / Go-go that you thought was GREAT last night may well prove to be absolutely CR*P next time you visit.
I have been to venues where, on one occasion I have had a great time with everyone having fun and lots of great potential playmates but the next time I have visited has been like a 'wet Wednesday in Wigan! ' with just a few miserable girls standing around and no atmosphere at all!
So, I'm afraid that there is no substitute for personal, on the spot research!
After all. If one venue was always the best then we would ALL be in there EVERY night wouldn't we?
Anyway, the hunt is part of the fun.
Enjoy,
I do!
Hotman.
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Arrival
This happened three days ago, the 29th / 30th. Started Tokyo to BKK. Delta Airlines. Took cattle class naturally. Seven hour flight. Left Tokyo time about 6:00 PM, landed BKK 11:30 PM. Flight not terrible, food was tho. It was one of those flights w / a small LCD screens in front of you. Entertainment system did not work. Had offered to fix their DVD player (s) if they gave me a hammer and a sharp pencil. After two hours of the flight they fixed it, thankfully. One thing I learned was that those small screen are terrible for FX movies. Watched Avatar and Dark Knight. Don't do it. Those tiny screens are fine for the Harry Met Sally type shows, but w / FX, fergetabbout-it.
Guy who was next to me told me of horrible experiences w / TSA in SF."They pick their nose and act all high, mighty, and can legally harass and molest everyone, and if you protest, you're a terrorist." Good grief, why you Americans put up w / that crap, beyond me. Anyway, landed. Unlike TSA USA, immigration Thai had their usual retarded look and asked me absolutely nothing. Said nothing. No luggage scan. Easy, quick, and convenient as can be. Zipped out. OMG flying w / dignity in tact, wadda concept.
Even tho had bit of cash from last Sept trip, changed the equiv of about $100 at the airport. Noticed the US exchange rate at 29. 76. Needed quick cash for the driver and the hotel. That said, knew that airport exchange rates are generally not that great, which is why I exchanged as little as possible.
Mr. Toom my taxi driver was exactly where expected and drove to Pattaya. Cost 1200 baht and over 2 hours. And yes, I know I can get a taxi 200 be cheaper, but Toom's driver is safe, and nice car and all that. Unlike my flight I grabbed about 20 minutes of Zzzzzzz's on way down. Since I had no hotel reservation he agreed to wait as I check around. Just for fun, went to my old place. New guy there, wanted 600 baht / night. Offered 500 baht as I paid last Sept. He said it impossible. Gal there recognized me and confirmed what I said. He offered 500 if I stay and pay for my entire trip (of a month) that very night. I countered that I would pay 500 baht for only four days (2000 baht total). He agreed, and if not would have moved on.
Read somewhere that if you arrive Pattaya you're breaking Thai law if you don't phuk a gal your first night there. So, being a (relatively) lawr bidddding persson, had to grab gal. It was about 3:00 AM, this 5:AM Tokyo time, and I was tired. Went out and got a 10 baht chicken stick. While there, gal passed by. Where you from. Where you work. What your name. Bla bla bla.
She worked BB at soi bekow w / very small tits, assss, and everything else. Fine. Agreed to 600 baht and off we went. Figure small assssss, small tang, right? Wrong. She 24 years and 2 year old child. And her tang was friggin huge. And she'd be*tch, whine, mone why I was taking so long. Uggggg. Since her tang so big, tried for her asssss, but would not let me. Even w / KY she dried up, so I came, and off she went.
Next morning, got up and checked exchange rates. In USD it between 30. 5 and 30. 7. Interesting in that they snap a point at the airport. Anyway, walked to an early morning Bliss Lounge. Gals are suppose to be pros, right? Anyway, cute gal who got upset that I took so long. Good grief. Anyway, for 600 baht, can't complain. That much anyway. Gave her a 200 be sympathy tip, which was prob too high.
Since I arrived I feel off my game a bit. Not feeling that strong. Could be allergies. Who knows. Had my hotel change the filter to AC unit, and that has helped a lot. Think that all for now. Going to try to grab Green Arrow in 3D (in a real movie theater, not on that airplane LCD screen).
-Popper
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Hotels question
[QUOTE=Manfield04; 1118629]I'm planning to visit Pattaya again but for a longer period this year in July or August and I would wish that someone helps me by suggesting a better hotel for three weeks.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Manfield, see Popper 1's thread on Pattaya Hotels.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3145-Popper1-s-Pattya-Hotel-Reports[/url]
Very thorough.
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[QUOTE=Popper1;1119132]Figure small assssss, small tang, right? Wrong. -Popper[/QUOTE]Yes. I have experienced this also. Even the shortest, skinniest, smallest spinners can have huge holes. Especially the ones who have had a kid or two. Deep and very wide. It's amazing how much they can take. Some of them seem as if there is no bottom / ending to their canal. With loose walls also. But I like that. As long as they are clean. It feels great to go all the way. They can take all of you no problem. No complaining. Big bonus if they are very limber and flexible also. Love it.
Same for the older milfs / cougars who keep in shape and maintain their body. Love them also.
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Thanks
Thanks mate for your help. It's so comprehensive. Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1119136]Manfield, see Popper 1's thread on Pattaya Hotels.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3145-Popper1-s-Pattya-Hotel-Reports[/url]
Very thorough[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Manfield04;1119515]Thanks mate for your help. It's so comprehensive. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
Will do an update of parts of the Popper Hotel Listing this trip, and again redo it completely next year. But yes, it is, and will continue to be the largest listing of hotels for Pattaya anywhere (as far as I know).
Correction to last post. Did not watch Green Arrow but rather Green Hornet. Who is Green Hornet anyway? Recall Green Arrow, Green Lantern, and Silver Surfer. However, Green Hornet? Anyway, not worth watching in 3-D. Or in 2-D for that matter.
Yesterday got teeth cleaned. Each time in Pattaya I do this. Cost 700 baht, and dentist spent about 40 minutes on my teeth. She found that one of my fillings in the back molar cracked and another cavity. Saw the crack and used that machine thing to push air in the cavity, and yea I felt it. To replace both is 1400 baht total. So, how much would it cost in the States, cleaning, and repair, and fill a cavity? Betya over 2100 baht. Compared to US healthcare, LOS is the way to go. And do it now before congress makes it illegal.
Now a late breakfast consisting of three eggs and coffee for 120 baht. While here am able to use Internet via free WiFi and download podcasts and via BT howard stern, other goodies, answer e-mail, and flame people on my politics BBS. Can do this for about three hours, which is as long as the battery lasts on my notebook.
Last night texted up a gal I knew from last Sept. She was fun, and really loves to phuk. Was like a marathon on the sack. Real challenge. Great sexercise. Asked her of her friend who I almost got a three way with, and she said her friend is now in Greece, and likes it there a lot. Oh well, her friend had great cans. Took a pic and will post it soon.
Minor problem is that at present Little Popper is in a bit of hurt from all the gal action. And no, I do not expect any sympathy, but advice would be nice. Am thinking in terms of a mild steroid ointment on Little Popper and a day (or two) of inaction. Anyone else?
More later. Sorry but my battery is near gone.
--Popper
"The world would be A better place with more wh0re houses and less churches."
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[QUOTE=Popper1;1119652]Will do an update of parts of the Popper Hotel Listing this trip, and again redo it completely next year. But yes, it is, and will continue to be the largest listing of hotels for Pattaya anywhere (as far as I know)...[/QUOTE]You did a great job here, Popper1, but one Swiss guy that I know from another board has put online an even more comprehensive list (with pictures, prices, links to numerous websites, etc.) here: [url]http://pattayaone.com/[/url]
The design of this website is poor and some links are not valid anymore, but it's nonetheless a great source of information (that I have mentioned here more than once, and in your own thread by the way).
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Pattaya Experiences
Pattaya Night First Night.
Pattaya Walking Street.
I stopped in a few Go-Go bars in the Walking Street and had different experiences in each one.
Living Dolls – Drank one beer. Everybody ignored me and I left.
Peppermint – A girl came and joined me as soon as I arrived. She sat on my lap facing away from me. This quickly aroused me and my hands just had to grab her breasts. She let me leave them there for a few seconds and then playfully slapped them. She then sat by the side of me and asked for a drink. I got her a drink. Her name was Joy and she said she was twenty four. She was very slender and as far as I could see she had no tattoos. The music then changed and all the girls dancing came down from the stage and a new set joined the stage. This included Joy. This annoyed me. I was just about to buy her another drink and thinking about paying her bar fine. I finished my drink and left.
Airport Club – Quickly joined by Jeb. Very small, twenty two and with a perfect body. We had a couple of drinks together and I bar fined her. On the way back to the hotel she said she was hungry so we stopped at Kiss Restaurant for some food. During the meal she had a couple of phone calls that got me worried. For the second call she walked away from me. I think this must have been another customer or boyfriend. She seemed a bit distant after this. I asked her what was up. She just said she wanted to go quickly to the hotel. Back in the hotel she continued with the same mood. This totally turned me off. She went through a few motions. Kissing and trying to get my dick in her mouth. She had a quick shower and laid on the bed naked ready for me to fuck her. I couldn't. I just threw her out and paid her half her fee. This really pissed me off. Bar Fine, Joiner Fee and half the girl fee.
Pattaya Second Day,
Tired of paying joiner fees I checked into a joiner friendly hotel that I found on-line. At least this way I would have more money for my attempts at finding pussy and hopefully doing something with it. From the hotel I took a two minute stroll down to the beach with the idea to sit down and read for a couple of hours. As soon as I sat down a problem started with a Jet Ski.
I didn't really believe the Jet Ski stories that I have read about on this forum and other forums. Now, having witnessed an incident, I understand a lot better. Sat in a deck chair I watched the whole performance.
The Cast of Characters:
Jet Ski Customers. Two Russian Women. Age late twenties, over weight and wearing bikinis.
Jet Ski Operator. Thai Man. Late twenties. Wearing a soccer shirt and army shorts down to his shins.
Thai Girl. Late twenties. Very smartly dressed.
Deck Chair Owner. Male late forties.
Foreign Law Enforcement Officer. Male late thirties. Very overweight. Black shirt and black long trousers. Eastern European.
Thai Policeman. Male early forties. Dressed in full uniform with moustache and dark glasses.
The two Russian women hired the Jet Skis and did their thing. On returning to the beach they returned to their deckchairs. Pretty soon a big crowd gathered around the Jet Ski. They were talking excitedly and pointing in the direction of the Russian women. The Jet Ski operator came and asked the Russian women to return to the Jet Ski. This they did. More talking with the Russian women shaking their heads and saying that they didn't speak English. They returned to their deck chairs. The Jet Ski operator came over to the women and told them they had to pay. The Russian women again said no English. From no-where a smart looking Thai girl appeared and spoke English with them. The Russian women said no English again. The Thai girl said that she knew they spoke English and that they had to pay. She then said that she would call a Russian speaker. The foreign Law Enforcement officer arrived. He didn't speak Russian. He was quickly followed by the Thai Policeman. The Thai Policeman told the foreign Law Enforcement officer that he saw everything and the Russian women had to pay. The foreign Law Enforcement officer told the women that they should pay now rather than later. Later they might have to pay big money. He didn't speak Russian and still the Russian women were saying no English. He did call a friend who spoke Russian. The Russian women then spoke on the foreign Law Eenforcement officer's phone. That didn't work either and they continued. By this point they were all smoking and the situation was getting quite tense.
I'the had enough and walked away. I did speak to the Deck Chair Owner when I paid him. He said the cost was 15, 000 Baht. I told him I'the read about this sort of thing before. He knew and said that normally Indian people experienced this problem.
I think this incident left a bad feeling with many people who witnessed it.
Intending to walk back to my hotel my attention was distracted by a girl who spoke to me. Her name was Bo and she spoke very good English. At thirty four she was older than the girls I had intended to hook up with. She told me she was in Pattaya for one night and would be returning to her home town the next day. She was quite tall, dark skinned with very large breasts. I asked her if she wanted a coffee and we went into Starbucks. As we were talking I really felt turned on by her appearance and the sound of her voice. I asked her if she wanted to come back to my room. She did and we spent the next couple of hours fucking in all kinds of positions. She was really up for it. She loved the mirrors. I think she spent half the time looking at herself in full swing. This more than made up for my lack of success the night before and the cost was only twenty five per cent of what I paid to not get laid. Instead of going home she stayed with me until the end of my trip. Man, I couldn't get enough of her pussy.
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[QUOTE=Asianpussylover;1118784]Thanks for the info. I will look for this broad. I love the exotic of exotics. Any hints on where I can find an Afro Thai woman?[/QUOTE]I LTed a thai FL from Insomnia, her friend who was always with her was half Thai, half Nigerian, and 100% hot. She has shortish hair, kinda like Rhianna. There are photos of her on the Insomnia website.
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How much do the good hotels charge to bring lady?
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My Field Report from Pattaya
Not sure if it's better to get a girl who speaks good English or bad English, however I had two good experiences in Pattaya and a couple sour ones.
World Wide A Gogo. Off beach road, picked a girl who spoke conversational English, actually bar fined her twice in a row. I think the total damage was about 2000 + 600 baht each time LT, good attitude, stayed to about 11am the next morning. Near to the Sunshine Hotel where I was staying.
Silverado A Gogo. After a disappointment at Airport I picked this lady up for the same price as the previous girl be / see these two A Gogos were both in close proximity to Sunshine Hotel. Cost: LT 2600 baht. Nice aloof girl stayed in my room until 11 am the next morning. Big boom boom.
Airport A Gogo. More higher end place be / see it is on the infamous Walking Street, I don't know how much I paid, probably like 3600 LT all together. Girl had a shitty attitude wanted to eat first, wanted to go to Disco, wanted blah blah. I wanted to fuck that's one thing she didn't want to do. Girl pissed me off,"me go now" and "me sleep now," only fucked once and a lame fuck at that.
Had a similar experience with a girl I got from Angel Witch and a Bar Girl from one of the Bar Gardens along walking street. Both these experiences where the girl promised to stay long time and leaves after maybe 1 hr soured me on the whole Pattaya trip, I've had better elsewhere. Plus all the lady boys and taxi's harassment is totally unnecessary, seriously WTF. I will say about the Thais if they see an opportunity to fuck over a foreigner they will bend you over and charge you for the lube. I'm sure that this applies especially to the tourist areas but it gets tiresome after a while but I guess I can go to India to feel better about Thailand.
On the upside much of the prices here are still cheap comparatively and Traditional Thai massage should only cost 200-250 baht which is awesome forget the upscale Spas'. A lot great restaurants especially in Bangkok.
For me Pattaya is too much, over run by tourist with inordinate amount of Russians (I have nothing against Russians trust me) , I would like to think other places are more tourist friendly where you don't always feel like someone is trying to hustle you be / see your white. But I don't get that feeling.
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[QUOTE=Suikoden;1119815]...Airport A Gogo. More higher end place be / see it is on the infamous Walking Street,...[/QUOTE]Good reports.
You had me puzzled for a few minutes though with the expression: "be / see."
I almost had to check the abbreviation thread when it finally dawned on me."be / see" must be some sort of long form for "b/c" which is short form for "because." Sure enough, it worked.
My only question is: Why don't you just type out the whole word: "because," as it's the same number of key strokes?
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Sunshine
[QUOTE=Suikoden; 1119815]Not sure if it's better to get a girl who speaks good English or bad English, however I had two good experiences in Pattaya and a couple sour ones.
World Wide A Gogo. Off beach road, picked a girl who spoke conversational English, actually bar fined her twice in a row. I think the total damage was about 2000 + 600 baht each time LT, good attitude, stayed to about 11am the next morning. Near to the Sunshine Hotel where I was staying.
Silverado A Gogo. After a disappointment at Airport I picked this lady up for the same price as the previous girl be / see these two A Gogos were both in close proximity to Sunshine Hotel. Cost: LT 2600 baht. Nice aloof girl stayed in my room until 11 am the next morning. Big boom boom.
Airport A Gogo. More higher end place be / see it is on the infamous Walking Street, I don't know how much I paid, probably like 3600 LT all together. Girl had a shitty attitude wanted to eat first, wanted to go to Disco, wanted blah blah. I wanted to fuck that's one thing she didn't want to do. Girl pissed me off,"me go now" and "me sleep now," only fucked once and a lame fuck at that.
Had a similar experience with a girl I got from Angel Witch and a Bar Girl from one of the Bar Gardens along walking street. Both these experiences where the girl promised to stay long time and leaves after maybe 1 hr soured me on the whole Pattaya trip, I've had better elsewhere. Plus all the lady boys and taxi's harassment is totally unnecessary, seriously WTF. I will say about the Thais if they see an opportunity to fuck over a foreigner they will bend you over and charge you for the lube. I'm sure that this applies especially to the tourist areas but it gets tiresome after a while but I guess I can go to India to feel better about Thailand.
On the upside much of the prices here are still cheap comparatively and Traditional Thai massage should only cost 200-250 baht which is awesome forget the upscale Spas'. A lot great restaurants especially in Bangkok.
For me Pattaya is too much, over run by tourist with inordinate amount of Russians (I have nothing against Russians trust me) , I would like to think other places are more tourist friendly where you don't always feel like someone is trying to hustle you be / see your white. But I don't get that feeling. [/QUOTE]Hi,
How is staying in Soi 8 especially Siunshine now? IS the nuilding noise from the new "upscale" wing bad"
What room type did you have to put the noise into relation?
Mike
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[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1119882]Good reports.
You had me puzzled for a few minutes though with the expression: "be / see."
I almost had to check the abbreviation thread when it finally dawned on me."be / see" must be some sort of long form for "be / see" which is short form for "because." Sure enough, it worked.
My only question is: Why don't you just type out the whole word: "because," as it's the same number of key strokes? [/QUOTE]I guess that it's because of the current setting of the automatic editing program in place since the software upgrade. In some cases, "b" becomes "be" after the initial submission, "c" becomes "see", "b/c" -> "be / see".
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[QUOTE=Zanzanzan;1119810]How much do the good hotels charge to bring lady?[/QUOTE]It depends and there is no common rule. Some high-end hotels don't charge any joiner fee, while others are charging up to 1000 baht per guest (maybe even more than that in certain places).
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[QUOTE=Leggy11; 1119703]Pattaya Night First Night.
Pattaya Walking Street.
I stopped in a few Go-Go bars in the Walking Street and had different experiences in each one.
Living Dolls – Drank one beer. Everybody ignored me and I left.
Peppermint – A girl came and joined me as soon as I arrived. She sat on my lap facing away from me. This quickly aroused me and my hands just had to grab her breasts. She let me leave them there for a few seconds and then playfully slapped them. She then sat by the side of me and asked for a drink. I got her a drink. Her name was Joy and she said she was twenty four. She was very slender and as far as I could see she had no tattoos. The music then changed and all the girls dancing came down from the stage and a new set joined the stage. This included Joy. This annoyed me. I was just about to buy her another drink and thinking about paying her bar fine. I finished my drink and left.
Airport Club – Quickly joined by Jeb. Very small, twenty two and with a perfect body. We had a couple of drinks together and I bar fined her. On the way back to the hotel she said she was hungry so we stopped at Kiss Restaurant for some food. During the meal she had a couple of phone calls that got me worried. For the second call she walked away from me. I think this must have been another customer or boyfriend. She seemed a bit distant after this. I asked her what was up. She just said she wanted to go quickly to the hotel. Back in the hotel she continued with the same mood. This totally turned me off. She went through a few motions. Kissing and trying to get my dick in her mouth. She had a quick shower and laid on the bed naked ready for me to fuck her. I couldn't. I just threw her out and paid her half her fee. This really pissed me off. Bar Fine, Joiner Fee and half the girl fee.
Pattaya Second Day,
Tired of paying joiner fees I checked into a joiner friendly hotel that I found on-line. At least this way I would have more money for my attempts at finding pussy and hopefully doing something with it. From the hotel I took a two minute stroll down to the beach with the idea to sit down and read for a couple of hours. As soon as I sat down a problem started with a Jet Ski.
I didn't really believe the Jet Ski stories that I have read about on this forum and other forums. Now, having witnessed an incident, I understand a lot better. Sat in a deck chair I watched the whole performance.
The Cast of Characters:
Jet Ski Customers. Two Russian Women. Age late twenties, over weight and wearing bikinis.
Jet Ski Operator. Thai Man. Late twenties. Wearing a soccer shirt and army shorts down to his shins.
Thai Girl. Late twenties. Very smartly dressed.
Deck Chair Owner. Male late forties.
Foreign Law Enforcement Officer. Male late thirties. Very overweight. Black shirt and black long trousers. Eastern European.
Thai Policeman. Male early forties. Dressed in full uniform with moustache and dark glasses.
The two Russian women hired the Jet Skis and did their thing. On returning to the beach they returned to their deckchairs. Pretty soon a big crowd gathered around the Jet Ski. They were talking excitedly and pointing in the direction of the Russian women. The Jet Ski operator came and asked the Russian women to return to the Jet Ski. This they did. More talking with the Russian women shaking their heads and saying that they didn't speak English. They returned to their deck chairs. The Jet Ski operator came over to the women and told them they had to pay. The Russian women again said no English. From no-where a smart looking Thai girl appeared and spoke English with them. The Russian women said no English again. The Thai girl said that she knew they spoke English and that they had to pay. She then said that she would call a Russian speaker. The foreign Law Enforcement officer arrived. He didn't speak Russian. He was quickly followed by the Thai Policeman. The Thai Policeman told the foreign Law Enforcement officer that he saw everything and the Russian women had to pay. The foreign Law Enforcement officer told the women that they should pay now rather than later. Later they might have to pay big money. He didn't speak Russian and still the Russian women were saying no English. He did call a friend who spoke Russian. The Russian women then spoke on the foreign Law Eenforcement officer's phone. That didn't work either and they continued. By this point they were all smoking and the situation was getting quite tense.
I'the had enough and walked away. I did speak to the Deck Chair Owner when I paid him. He said the cost was 15, 000 Baht. I told him I'the read about this sort of thing before. He knew and said that normally Indian people experienced this problem.
I think this incident left a bad feeling with many people who witnessed it.
Intending to walk back to my hotel my attention was distracted by a girl who spoke to me. Her name was Bo and she spoke very good English. At thirty four she was older than the girls I had intended to hook up with. She told me she was in Pattaya for one night and would be returning to her home town the next day. She was quite tall, dark skinned with very large breasts. I asked her if she wanted a coffee and we went into Starbucks. As we were talking I really felt turned on by her appearance and the sound of her voice. I asked her if she wanted to come back to my room. She did and we spent the next couple of hours fucking in all kinds of positions. She was really up for it. She loved the mirrors. I think she spent half the time looking at herself in full swing. This more than made up for my lack of success the night before and the cost was only twenty five per cent of what I paid to not get laid. Instead of going home she stayed with me until the end of my trip. Man, I couldn't get enough of her pussy. [/QUOTE]Excellent report. Guess I won't be doing any jet skiing my next trip to PTY. Sometimes the most beautiful women are the worst in bed. I'd settle for a 7-8 who was fun to be with, AND a good fuck. Stay thirsty my friend!
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[QUOTE=Goyave;1120028]I guess that it's because of the current setting of the automatic editing program in place since the software upgrade. In some cases, "b" becomes "be" after the initial submission, "c" becomes "see", "b/c" -> "be / see".[/QUOTE]Yep! I see that now. And the same thing happened to me.
That self editing thing is very strange.
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[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1120054]Yep! I see that now. And the same thing happened to me.
That self editing thing is very strange. [/QUOTE]Yes. It has been screwing up my posts royally.
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[QUOTE=Zanzanzan;1119810]How much do the good hotels charge to bring lady?[/QUOTE]This Is Pattaya, there are thousands of hotels to choose, why would any monger want to stay In one that charges joiner fees?
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1120033]Excellent report. Guess I won't be doing any jet skiing my next trip to PTY. Sometimes the most beautiful women are the worst in bed. I'd settle for a 7-8 who was fun to be with, AND a good fuck. Stay thirsty my friend![/QUOTE]The whole thing seemed very Keystone Cops. Very stage managed.
I agree a good fuck with a 7-8 beats nothing happening with a 9-10.
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Joiner Fees
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1120083]This Is Pattaya, there are thousands of hotels to choose, why would any monger want to stay In one that charges joiner fees?[/QUOTE]Most mid-priced and lower hotels shouldn't charge you a joiner fee. But it's irritating that some hotels will charge you if you bring a second girl (I think it was 300 and 500 baht at Eastiny 7 and White House Condotel).
Not sure about the high priced resort hotels.
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[QUOTE=Leggy11;1119703]He said the cost was 15, 000 Baht.[/QUOTE]Awesome!
Reminds of the 3 guys today I saw on Sukhumvit getting hit for the 2,000 baht "you dropped a cigarette but" fee.
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[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1120310]Most mid-priced and lower hotels shouldn't charge you a joiner fee. But it's irritating that some hotels will charge you if you bring a second girl (I think it was 300 and 500 baht at Eastiny 7 and White House Condotel).
Not sure about the high priced resort hotels.[/QUOTE]I made reservations for 2 people and used "Guest" as the second persons name. I was not charged for any of the women I brought back to Eastiny 7 and we both got the free breakfast the next morning.
DAWG
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[QUOTE=Daegu Dawg; 1120354]I made reservations for 2 people and used "Guest" as the second persons name. I was not charged for any of the women I brought back to Eastiny 7 and we both got the free breakfast the next morning.
DAWG[/QUOTE]Yes, Eastiny hotels have all been very good for me. Nice room, great locations, friendly, good pools, no joiner fee ever, Free internet, and breakfast is good with no attention paid to the overnight guest at breakfast. They are all treated well. There used to be a sigh about joiners fees for 3+ friends, because they felt they cause too much trouble in the hotel. You could still do it, just expect to pay.
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Vote with your feet, If a hotel takes the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], move out and find another, In Pattaya at the moment there are less guests than rooms, this Is one reason why I never pay online, pay daily for the first couple of days In a new hotel, then play It by ear.
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'nother report
Too busy here in Pattaya to make frequent reports. Anyway, to it.
Last night about 1:am walked to Mix Disco. There a new disco near it I had not recognized before. Anyway, just outside it was a gal. Cute. Figure 25 or so, but had a different look. I asked if she was Thai and she gave this wooshy-washy answer of how she is from the South, Malaysia but Thai anyway. Compared to Thais she was stockier with huge tits. Nice change. I offered her 500 baht for ST and off we went.
Unfortunately Little Popper gave a lackluster performance last night, but she certainly earned her cash. I did not have a hundred be for tip, so I gave her 20 and she was actually happy with that. She was all business, and after performance off she went, and I went to sleep.
Morning had my Breakfast of Champions, three eggs and coffee. Went to get dental work done. Chose a dentist across the street from Tuk. Com who cleaned my teeth previously for 700 baht. She found a cracked filling and cavity and offered to fix both for 1400 baht. OK. Made appointment for that evening. Did Thai massage and not much else in what was my slowest day since I arrived here.
Arrived at dentist and she did her thing. Offered me local anesthesia (sp?) and unlike 20 years ago when I was tough, decided to take it. Oh yea two shots, one for each. And there numbness throughout the right side of the mouth. Tho she worked 50 minutes could have sat in that dentist chair for 50 days. Could care less. While she was doing her thing, just kept thinking of Dentists by Bill Cosby.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBqY6cJD3CE[/url]
As promised, cost was 1400 baht tho she could have charged me more for the local. After walked to that movie theater at the 2nd Road Mall where LA Fitness is. Cost to see The Traveler was 100 baht, less than half the price of watching that terrible 3-D movie Green Hornet. Was a good movie overall, and while watching it the entire right side of my face became numb from that anesthesia. Did not last however, and by the time the movie ended, face was fine.
Had to then do the BJ at Pump Station. Did not make it to there however cause got hijacked by some gals at the Golden Girls bar. Gal recognized me from 2 years before. Damn these gals have great memories. Asked how much to go up stairs and she said 750 baht. Anyway, after seeing angelina jolie, Little Popper was really up to the task, and that poor gal had to work it for a lonnnnnnnng time. She just had spicy food, and Little Popper could really feel all those spices. Gave the BJ thing a bit of a twist. However, in the end she appeared happy and told me it was nice to see Little Popper after all these years and to please return quickly. Gave her 800 baht and she thrilled when I told her to keep the change.
Biggest change of Pattaya this trip is lots and lots of Russians. Looks like gals with their boy friends, and many single female Russians. What are they doing here? Russian gals are often times super sizzling hot. Cannot make heads or tails why there are so many of them here. I'll say this however, if American girls looked as hot as the Russians, I for one would never leave the US. Unfortunately however there is no comparison.
--Popper
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[QUOTE=Popper1;1120759]Biggest change of Pattaya this trip is lots and lots of Russians. Looks like gals with their boy friends, and many single female Russians. What are they doing here? Russian gals are often times super sizzling hot. Cannot make heads or tails why there are so many of them here. I'll say this however, if American girls looked as hot as the Russians, I for one would never leave the US. Unfortunately however there is no comparison.[/QUOTE]The Russians are package tourists, mostly from the Siberian region, Pattaya Is only a few hours flight for them.
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[QUOTE=Jerboa;1120788]The Russians are package tourists, mostly from the Siberian region, Pattaya Is only a few hours flight for them.[/QUOTE]It's not just the Russians and Uzbecks, but the many serviced apartments at the Jomtien end of 3rd Road were full of Middle Easterners.
Everything is changing in Pattaya
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Alcatraz Go Go
Very nice Go Go called Alcatraz in Walking St. Lots of pretty women inside. I'd like to barfine at least 6 from there.
Nice shower show in there too. I was very happy with a small girl in there called May. She was waiting for the shower show to finish to she could start her session in there. Happy to sit with me for 1 drink, and let me grope her ass as much as I wanted. Very friendly and cute, only 22. Only been working there a month.
Also, no hassle in there to keep buying drinks which is nice.
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[QUOTE=Butter69; 1120989]Very nice Go Go called Alcatraz in Walking St. Lots of pretty women inside. I'd like to barfine at least 6 from there.
Nice shower show in there too. I was very happy with a small girl in there called May. She was waiting for the shower show to finish to she could start her session in there. Happy to sit with me for 1 drink, and let me grope her ass as much as I wanted. Very friendly and cute, only 22. Only been working there a month.
Also, no hassle in there to keep buying drinks which is nice. [/QUOTE]When I went there in December, I thought the place had a lot of potential; too bad, because there were just a few customers. The place has a great design with cell-blocks and such. Somebody put some serious money into this place.
Butter69, were there many customers in the place? Because when I was there, the place had had lots of ladies, but very few customers; which is a bad sign. I'm headed back in April and will reassess the place then; hopefully it is still in business because I really like the feel and design of the place.
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deep throat ([CodeWord900])
Didn't get to experience it myself during my short stay in Pattaya last week, but was informed by my personal attendant (Pam) that while she herself is unable to take it all the way, her coworker Nam can. Said Hi to Nam on my way out, who confirmed this point by nodding and pointing to her throat.
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Short Report: [email]24@Super[/email] Girls
Took 24 from Super Girls last week. Decent English for a gogo BG, amicable personality, fairly pretty face, good body, attractively enhanced (not obvious without copping a good squeeze) , willing to BBJ as long as I wanted. In spite of which I found the action a bit mechanical and uninspiring, though could have been my own attitude as much as hers, or maybe just a bit tired from all the miscellaneous bar-hopping and longish walk to hotle. Finished off with a dribbly-CIM which she handled without complaint.
Worth doing if you fancy her, though she's not really stunner-league for most people's tastes I'd guess.
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Tiniest BG in Baccara
Had a pretty nice last night in Pattaya with a pint-sized girl I took a fancy to on 2nd floor Baccara (No. 216, who later told me was aged 19, 145 cm tall and 35 kg). In contrast with her data, she wasn't really the cute type, and gave me the initial that she might be stand-offish as I was ogling her since she made no effort to communicate when I was trying to make eye contact, but I liked the fact that she declined to join her friend for the fish frenzy when some Japanese repeat customers made their entrance, and ignored the bucket of ping pong balls that was dropped when it was her turn to dance.
Had a surprisingly fun conversation with her at my chair in spite of (or maybe because of) her very limited English. Paid the BF and full 2k ST fee. Performance was not inspired, a step above mechanical. BBJ DATY were both enjoyed, though there were a few close calls between her teeth and my member. Was not as tight as her proportions would suggest, unfortunately, but not by no means cavernous. Not easy to keep her lubricated without materials either, and I had difficulty finishing. Still, I would do her again if I get the chance and am feeling fresh.
Like the other few I asked on this short vacation, she was not amenable to photos, but was willing to take a self-portrait with my iphone. Only a head-shot, but will post it later when I'm home.
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Guys,
Avoid from this guesthouse Rinya House in Pattaya, many who stay on this guesthouse had be scam or stolen things from rooms. The last report happent to english man 3 februar 2011
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/02/03/burglar-bags-200000-thb-booty-central-pattaya/[/url]
And in the moment they a lot of crime in Walking Street many tourist be scam by girls who go with you and not make sex and want money.
And they was one man from saudi arab he take a girl from beachroad to his hotel put something to his drink and he sleep 11 hours and he lost all his money, paper.
Be careful guys play smart and safe about drinks.
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[QUOTE=Spanishboy 29;1121088]... And they was one man from saudi arab he take a girl from beachroad to his hotel put something to his drink and he sleep 11 hours and he lost all his money, paper...[/QUOTE]
I fail to find any recent news report about this. I don't say that it never happens, but there is also a lot of rumors that are spread by certain people who have vested interests in some local businesses (go-go bars, for instance) and who don't miss an opportunity to give the freelancers a bad reputation. Sure, some of them are dishonest, but according to my own experience, it's far from being the majority of them (quite the opposite, by the way, as most of them are really nice and honest girls).
Anyway, there's an easy way to prevent yourself from being stolen when you stay at a hotel, and it has been mentioned many times here and in other threads: every punter should simply insists on the girls dropping off their ID card at the hotel reception, and require that the staff makes a courtesy phone call to his room when the girls are about to leave, in order to check that everything is fine before giving them back their ID card.
This way, one should not have any problem of this kind with the girls, them being freelancers or not. It's also recommended to tip the security and reception staffs (a couple of one hundred-baht banknotes should suffice), at least when you check-in, and they will certainly be of great help during your stay.
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[QUOTE=Typhun; 1121022]Had a pretty nice last night in Pattaya with a pint-sized girl I took a fancy to on 2nd floor Baccara (No. 216, who later told me was aged 19, 145 cm tall and 35 kg). In contrast with her data, she wasn't really the cute type, and gave me the initial that she might be stand-offish as I was ogling her since she made no effort to communicate when I was trying to make eye contact, but I liked the fact that she declined to join her friend for the fish frenzy when some Japanese repeat customers made their entrance, and ignored the bucket of ping pong balls that was dropped when it was her turn to dance.
Had a surprisingly fun conversation with her at my chair in spite of (or maybe because of) her very limited English. Paid the BF and full 2k ST fee. Performance was not inspired, a step above mechanical. BBJ DATY were both enjoyed, though there were a few close calls between her teeth and my member. Was not as tight as her proportions would suggest, unfortunately, but not by no means cavernous. Not easy to keep her lubricated without materials either, and I had difficulty finishing. Still, I would do her again if I get the chance and am feeling fresh.
Like the other few I asked on this short vacation, she was not amenable to photos, but was willing to take a self-portrait with my iphone. Only a head-shot, but will post it later when I'm home. [/QUOTE]What 2k for a not Inspired ST In Pattaya? The worlds gone mad!
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[QUOTE=Goyave;1121119]I fail to find any recent news report about this. I don't say that it never happens, but there is also a lot of rumors that are spread by certain people who have vested interests in some local businesses (go-go bars, for instance) and who don't miss an opportunity to give the freelancers a bad reputation.[/QUOTE]I for one can't get freelancers to do any wrong. I just came from doing one on Beach Road. She started with 500 then I told her it was too much. She said okay I will give you a discount of 400. Cool. We took my motorbike to a ST hotel that I didn't know about. It is on Second Road right past Soi 12 on the right. It is directly next to a 7-11. It appeared to be a cleaners. As a matter of fact there was a police uniform hanging above the front desk and a police helmet in a box in front of the desk. Maybe the guy in charge is a cop. Anyway the cost was 120. 20 more than the ST hotel next to Starbucks.
She gave stellar service. She started out with a great BBBJ. I didn't think she would ever stop. I almost fell asleep. Finally she put the condom on and wanted me to get on top of her. I said no you on top. She jokingly said I already gave you a discount and you want me to do all of the work. So I pounded away on her in a few positions. Then I finally asked her if I could finish in her mouth. She didn't have a problem with it. Afterward she ran into the bathroom to spit it out and take another shower. I had her 400 baht ready for her when she came out. We thanked each other and I ran outside and jumped on my motorbike and headed home.
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1121010]When I went there in December, I thought the place had a lot of potential; too bad, because there were just a few customers. The place has a great design with cell-blocks and such. Somebody put some serious money into this place.
Butter69, were there many customers in the place? Because when I was there, the place had had lots of ladies, but very few customers; which is a bad sign. I'm headed back in April and will reassess the place then; hopefully it is still in business because I really like the feel and design of the place. [/QUOTE]Maybe because the place had just open in December along with the other place next door. Only time will tell?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Goyave;1121119]This way, one should not have any problem of this kind with the girls, them being freelancers or not. It's also recommended to tip the security and reception staffs (a couple of one hundred-baht banknotes should suffice), at least when you check-in, and they will certainly be of great help during your stay.[/QUOTE]I find it a bit awkward to tip someone like that. Instead, I simply use a short-time hotel for all my encounters, unless I've seen the girl many times. If you're a regular customer and have had lots of good experiences with a girl, there's no danger bringing her to your room for a short time. But in any case its more pleasant to go to a short time room and avoid soiling your bedsheets and towels.
Gentlemen who have their wits about them having nothing to fear from freelancers. Only the drunken and very careless and inexperienced face a risk. Just don't drink much and never bring more than 1500 baht when going out, and there's no problem. One thing's for sure, you'd have to get robbed very often to balance out the money wasted by choosing bar and gogo girls instead of freelancers. Now that's the real robbery! (see below a 2000 baht short time!)
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Non-mongering Question
Does anyone know where I can buy a voltage converter/step-down transformer in Pattaya? I have a 110V electric shaver and of course the 220V here is way too much for it. I have looked at Big C and Carrefour to no avail.
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[QUOTE=Opebo;1121334]I find it a bit awkward to tip someone like that...[/QUOTE]Well, it works for me, it's easy, not that awkward, and it does not cost me much money... actually, much less than what I would have spent if I've had to go to a short-time hotel every time! I'm in my early forties and unless I am sick (or busy on other matters), I usually have several ST sessions per day (at least 3) when I'm in Pattaya. I tip (reasonably) the hotel staff (especially the security guys) once on my arrival, and sometimes also when I'm checking out if I intend to come back at the same place or if they have been particularly helpful during my sojourn. I just explain to them that I want to have a courtesy phone call each time that my guests are leaving the hotel without me. And I also kindly remind this to the front desk when I bring my girls to the hotel.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1121334]But in any case its more pleasant to go to a short time room and avoid soiling your bedsheets and towels.[/QUOTE]Yes, what you are saying is true (about the bedsheets and towels), but it's not very difficult to get a few extra towels, especially if you've (reasonably) tipped the cleaning ladies (for instance, once at the beginning of your sojourn). Where I usually stay when I'm in Pattaya, I get two or three extra towels everyday quite easily.
My hotel room is more pleasant than any short-time that I have visited so far, and is more convenient, for instance if I want to keep some video memories of my sessions.
But your modus operandi has its advantages too...
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1121357]Does anyone know where I can buy a voltage converter/step-down transformer in Pattaya? I have a 110V electric shaver and of course the 220V here is way too much for it. I have looked at Big C and Carrefour to no avail.[/QUOTE]You should find it at the Tukcom centre (corner of Pattaya Tai and Soi Bukhao), probably at the basement level.
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1120867]It's not just the Russians and Uzbecks, but the many serviced apartments at the Jomtien end of 3rd Road were full of Middle Easterners.
Everything is changing in Pattaya[/QUOTE]Seen lots of Ruskies and Uzbecks, and damn those women are friggin hot. Beautiful bodies, blond / blue and often stunning. Except for the sex workers, why are they in Pattaya? Far better and more exotic places on the Islands, as PiPi, panyang, etc. Pattaya beach is far from great, and this not a place IMO to take your GF too.
Also lots of Chinese, Arabs, and some Koreans / Japanese.
Just a few minutes ago stuck out my hand while going to my hotel room and grabbed this gal. We agreed to 500 for ST, and she was so good gave her a 100 tip. And she gave me her cell. She 20 and a bit of fat on her stomach, but lots of fun. Took her pic with my Sony Cell, and as I pointed the camera she swong the towel blocking the complete view.
Damn I hate Pattaya.
-Popper
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[QUOTE=Goyave;1121389]You should find it at the Tukcom centre (corner of Pattaya Tai and Soi Bukhao), probably at the basement level.[/QUOTE]Did a google search and another site said the basement as well. Just came from there and all they had were adapters, no converters. Found what was supposed to be a converter on the 3rd floor. Luckily I brought my shaver with me. Plugged it in to test it and there was no difference. Dammit.
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[QUOTE=Goyave;1121383]My hotel room is more pleasant than any short-time that I have visited so far, and is more convenient, for instance if I want to keep some video memories of my sessions.[/QUOTE]I've only used one ST room in Pattaya, and it was not pleasant. I'm much more comfortable bringing the girls back to my room where I can relax, offer them a drink, have a fairly hygienic shower, and feel slightly more in control of the situation.
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Converter
[QUOTE=Goyave;1121389]You should find it at the Tukcom centre (corner of Pattaya Tai and Soi Bukhao), probably at the basement level.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1121357]Does anyone know where I can buy a voltage converter/step-down transformer in Pattaya? I have a 110V electric shaver and of course the 220V here is way too much for it. I have looked at Big C and Carrefour to no avail.[/QUOTE]I bought a 220V to 110V converter at Bic C. They are back in the corner in the electronics section. Take your transformer with you. Also, many transformers will set down the 220 or 110 to whatever the voltage the device needs. Look on the shavers chargers box and if it has 220-110 on it, chances are it will adjust the voltage it self.
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Alcatraz A-go-go
i checked out the new alcatraz a-go-go on walking street for the first (and probably last) time tonight. it's a large room with a high ceiling done out in a dull grey cell block motif with empty cells surrounding the second storey level and a large chicken wire cage in the center above the stage where one girl is shuffling around. the atmosphere is hard, metallic, cold, and the bar lacks any semblance of intimacy.
there appeared to be a few decent looking girls here and there, but the place was so dark i couldn't get a good look at them. the stage is set up high off the floor so the girls seem far away, and there is absolutely no nudity; not even any semi nudity; no tits; no ass; no pussy; no g-strings; nothing. it's depressing.
i saved the worst part for last: no happy hour and drinks are priced at least 40 baht higher than most other go-go bars. at 10pm only me and 5 other bored looking customers were rep001tered around the room, though the high-season weekday crowds on walking street are huge.
unless the owner of this place does something drastic and fast to attract more customers, i predict a short shelf life for alcatraz.
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Probably Already Blown
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1121422]Did a google search and another site said the basement as well. Just came from there and all they had were adapters, no converters. Found what was supposed to be a converter on the 3rd floor. Luckily I brought my shaver with me. Plugged it in to test it and there was no difference. Dammit.[/QUOTE]My guess is that you already blew the power supply. I did the same thing once as I assumed all of my plug in portable transformers automatically switched from 110-220. Nope, they all did except for one. I fried that one by accident. I ended up butchering a couple adopters from night vendors with a bit of eletrical tape to reassemble one. Cost me 150 bt in total. Just be sure you have to polarity right (+ going to center or outside).
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[QUOTE=Mouse1;1121425]I've only used one ST room in Pattaya, and it was not pleasant. I'm much more comfortable bringing the girls back to my room where I can relax, offer them a drink, have a fairly hygienic shower, and feel slightly more in control of the situation.[/QUOTE]Its funny you should put it that way. It is precisely in my own room where I don't feel in control of the situation. I feel much more in control at the short time hotel where at the first sign of trouble I just slip some clothes back on and run out the door. By contrast in my own room I feel vulnerable. My things are there, and the girl can cause trouble for me.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1121383]...I'm in my early forties and unless I am sick (or busy on other matters), I usually have several ST sessions per day (at least 3) when I'm in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Wow, impressive. We're in the same age range, and two is the most I can handle without developing the old 'can't finish' problem.
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[QUOTE=Opebo;1121334]I find it a bit awkward to tip someone like that. Instead, I simply use a short-time hotel for all my encounters, unless I've seen the girl many times. If you're a regular customer and have had lots of good experiences with a girl, there's no danger bringing her to your room for a short time. But in any case its more pleasant to go to a short time room and avoid soiling your bedsheets and towels.[/QUOTE]When I was staying in hotels I didn't care about bringing different girls back and fucking up as many sheets and towels as I wanted. I was never really concerned about a safety aspect either. Hell, I could change rooms or hotels at the drop of a hat. But now that I have my own place 1) I don't want all of those hookers knowing where I live and 2) I now have to buy and wash towels and sheets my damn self. Considering how cheap you can have clothes made here, I never knew sheets and towels were so damn expensive. So if I'm doing short time I would much rather prefer paying 100 baht for a ST hotel. I only bring non-pros or girls from the disco who I have regularly seen and are quite familiar with back to my place.
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1st trip to Thailand.
After being here for week now I have to admit as recovering Brasil-aholic this place is "RIO ON STERIODS" and is the mongering mecca of the world in my opinion and Pattaya blows Rio away hands down. From now on I will be coming out here atleast 2-3 times per year now for sure. It was also great to finally meet the famous Mr.Enternational of ISG!
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1121010]When I went there in December, I thought the place had a lot of potential; too bad, because there were just a few customers. The place has a great design with cell-blocks and such. Somebody put some serious money into this place.
Butter69, were there many customers in the place? Because when I was there, the place had had lots of ladies, but very few customers; which is a bad sign. I'm headed back in April and will reassess the place then; hopefully it is still in business because I really like the feel and design of the place. [/QUOTE]Yes, been there again at a later time, and still a nice flow of customers each time. I actually don't mind how many customers are in the place. The less, the better, as it means I can always get the girl that I want sitting on my lap, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Spanishboy 29; 1121088][url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/02/03/burglar-bags-200000-thb-booty-central-pattaya/[/url]
And in the moment they a lot of crime in Walking Street many tourist be scam by girls who go with you and not make sex and want money. [/QUOTE]The flipside of that coin is men who take women and don't want to pay them afterward. A girl who works the desk at the hotel I used to stay at came over the other day. She was talking about how the hotel is usually full of Indians because they lower the price to bring people in. But now that it is Chinese New Year they raised the prices according to the laws of supply and demand, so there are less Indians.
She was telling me how it was really none of her business who you bring to your room and what you do with them. As long as there are no problems that directly affect the hotel. She said that many times the Indian guys will take girls up then after they won't want to pay the joiner fee and won't want to pay the girl. Then they bring the mess down to her, when what the hell can she do about it. She was not part of the business transaction in the first place. Her only concern is the equal comfort and safety of the hotel for the guests collectively. She is not a counselor or policewoman so therefore is not concerned with each person's personal issues. She only wants them to take the mess outside before any fighting begins so she will not have to do any extra work (paperwork & explaining).
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St lt
How long is a ST short time LT long time. Si there any general time session for ST LT or it depends on the girl?
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Short time / Long time
[QUOTE=Shanjahan;1121749]How long is a ST short time LT long time. Si there any general time session for ST LT or it depends on the girl?[/QUOTE]This is Thailand you are talking about! THERE ARE NO STANDARDS (FOR ANYTHING!)
What a WG may (seem to) agree to at the negotiation stage and what happens in reality may be completely different.
I have been with 500 Baht girls who have been happy to stay with me for several hours, or even over night. I have also had the occasional bad experience of a girl (after agreeing to a price for long time) wanting to leave after an hour or so.
However YMMV with the same girl, on the same day, at the same price!
Don't try to figure out Thai logic (There is none!) Just RTFF and ENJOY!
I always do!
Hotman.
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Short Time and Long Time
[QUOTE=Shanjahan;1121749]How long is a ST short time LT long time. Si there any general time session for ST LT or it depends on the girl?[/QUOTE]Generally, when a girl agrees to short time she is going to fall into one of two categories. 1st: short time is considered 2-3 hours. Most of the girls from the GoGos will work with this time frame because they don't want you complaining to the bar, but this is certainly no guarantee. 2nd: some girls consider short time to mean you come once. She will go to your room, shower, screw you until you come one time and then start for the door.
Long time is the full night. Some bars that have girls who work on outcall or some other type of service will tell you a time. Devil's Den in Pattaya and most of the massage places will tell you something like 6 or 7am. Most girls who agree to long time will stay until later than that since most bar girls don't get up until noon anyway. Worst case scenario is a you have a nice room with a cold air conditioner and cable and you can't get them to leave.
The best bet is to try and get her to agree to a time or number of times type deal before you pay. This certainly does not guarantee that she will comply with the agreement, but it is worth a try.
TheCowboyKid.
[url]www.bangkokbarfine.com[/url]
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Aha
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1121758]This is Thailand you are talking about! THERE ARE NO STANDARDS (FOR ANYTHING!)
What a WG may (seem to) agree to at the negotiation stage and what happens in reality may be completely different.
I have been with 500 Baht girls who have been happy to stay with me for several hours, or even over night. I have also had the occasional bad experience of a girl (after agreeing to a price for long time) wanting to leave after an hour or so.
However YMMV with the same girl, on the same day, at the same price!
Don't try to figure out Thai logic (There is none!) Just RTFF and ENJOY!
I always do!
Hotman. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the info bro. So its like I suspected, if the girl likes you she will stay if not she will go and other things as well,
500 baht for a whole night heheheheheh. Its to good to be true. 500 baht thats like 16 us dollars heheh very cheap indeed, thats almost like for free.
Either you are handsome or you just had luck, anyway, good hunting next time
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[QUOTE=Shanjahan;1121749]How long is a ST short time LT long time. Si there any general time session for ST LT or it depends on the girl?[/QUOTE]That's funny, how long Is a piece of string? Hahahaha.
If you want to go LT with a Thai bargirl be sure to write out a detailed contract In both English and Thai, you will need two witnesses, and you must get the bargirl / FL's parents also to sign, they may likely be home In Backofbeyondburi Isaan though, good luck.
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Just an "Old Farrang!"
[QUOTE=Shanjahan;1121777]Either you are handsome or you just had luck, anyway, good hunting next time[/QUOTE]I am certainly not handsome. Just an overweight 'old Farrang' but I must say that the older I get and the more I practice then the luckier I get!
Oh yes, One other thing. I always treat the girls like human beings.
When I am in Thailand I do not look for 10/10 'perfect' trophy fucks!
I am more interested in talking to the girl and seeing if there is 'a spark' between us.
Over the years I have had my share of 'Perfect 10 dead star fish. ' An enthusiastic 'girl next door' type is perfectly adequate for me if she gives good service!
A little tip, assuming that you are a first timer in 'Land of Smiles'
Wherever you go hunting, talk to the girl. Try to make her smile. If she 'LIKES you' you have a much better chance of her giving you a good time. Remember, these girls must meet more than their 'fair share' of arseholes!
On the way back to your hotel stop off at a 7/11 (One on every corner) and buy her a drink or some chocolates. This small gift will be greatly appreciated. It will stop her wanting to raid your hotel mini bar and it will ensure that you have the agreed exact money to pay her, plus a small tip if the service is great!
Paying more does NOT guarantee a better performance! Some of my BEST experiences in Pattaya have been with 500 Baht Coconut Bar (Beach Road.) freelancers!
ENJOY, I always do!
Hotman.
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[QUOTE=Shanjahan;1121777]...500 baht for a whole night heheheheheh. Its to good to be true. 500 baht thats like 16 us dollars heheh very cheap indeed, thats almost like for free...[/QUOTE]
In Pattaya, at least with freelancers, it's not very difficult to have a ST session with an attractive 18-25 year old provider for 500 baht (and sometimes even lesser than that with older or less attractive girls). Most of the time, a ST session is finished after one shot, but as explained earlier by other posters, its not a rule carved in stone! A LT session is supposed to last a whole night, but some girls will leave you very early while others are willing to stay with you till noon (or even later). A LT session with a Pattaya freelancer can be had for about 1000 baht (again, it's not carved in stone, but rather common though).
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Short time / Long time
[QUOTE=Goyave;1121806]In Pattaya, at least with freelancers, it's not very difficult to have a ST session with an attractive 18-25 year old provider for 500 baht (and sometimes even lesser than that with older or less attractive girls). Most of the time, a ST session is finished after one shot, but as explained earlier by other posters, its not a rule carved in stone! A LT session is supposed to last a whole night, but some girls will leave you very early while others are willing to stay with you till noon (or even later). A LT session with a Pattaya freelancer can be had for about 1000 baht (again, it's not carved in stone, but rather common though).[/QUOTE]Goyave,
That is probably the most 'concise' (and accurate) explanation of Short time / Long time that I have yet seen!
I would just add one thing.
Personally I prefer to agree a short time price and then, 'if the magic is there' Extend it rather than cut a Long Time session short if she is just 'going through the motions.
Hotman.
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Short time long time
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1121813]Goyave,
That is probably the most 'concise' (and accurate) explanation of Short time / Long time that I have yet seen!
I would just add one thing.
Personally I prefer to agree a short time price and then, 'if the magic is there' Extend it rather than cut a Long Time session short if she is just 'going through the motions.
Hotman. [/QUOTE]Thanks guys for the info. I will go to Thailand soone I hope. I will keep your advice in mind.
BTW were you from Hotman, its ok if you don't want to tell, you seem to be a cool guy. I am going to northern poland. I would love to share my monger with you guys.
Look at odloty. Pl there is a english section. Gdynia city. There is a girl pamela. She has really hot tits. Also hotels food are cheap. You could a regular resturang for 2. 5-3 euro and upwards there is even a resturang selling for 1 euro meal. Also there are theöne rkebabs pizzas from 2 euro and up.
There are escort costing 100 zloty and upwards thats like 25 euro for one hour which is cheap compared to denmark were it costs 350 euro for one hour.
My friend have been to many parts of Thailand not for monger according to him. He said it was really great. Freindly people the weather and most important its cheap. Maybe not most important but he pointed out that its cheap with hotels resturangs other things as well.
Back to topic. Are there any russians in Pattaya. How much does they go for per hour, do you have more info about it.
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[QUOTE=Opebo;1121517]... Wow, impressive. We're in the same age range, and two is the most I can handle without developing the old 'can't finish' problem.[/QUOTE]
I don't think it's impressive, especially since I don't drink much alcohol (almost never when I'm alone, and reasonably when I'm with friends) and sleep a bit more than usual when I'm in Pattaya (I don't sleep much more than 4 hours per night usually, but about 6 or 7 hours when I am there).
Anyway, I also have sometimes the old "can't finish" problem too or need a very long time to cum. I have been pleasantly surprised more than once by the tenacity of certain providers as they would not let me "unsatisfied" (even after I have explained that I am tired and that the session was already very satisfactory anyway). I remember in particular one girl who blew me for about one hour after an already rather long sexual intercourse or another one that I sodomized [i]ŕ la Pierre Woodman[/i] for more than 40 minutes (she said afterwards that she loved it, by the way!) in order to make me eventually cum. And the most amazing thing is that I had to insist in both cases for they accept a well-deserved tip! That was several years ago and alas, nowadays, it's more difficult (at least, according to my own experience) to find this kind of very conscientious providers in Pattaya!
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[QUOTE=Shanjahan; 1121820]BTW where are you from Hotman,[/QUOTE]I'm from England! And you?
[QUOTE=Shanjahan; 1121820]Back to topic. Are there any russians in Pattaya. How much does they go for per hour, do you have more info about it.[/QUOTE]Yep, there are Russians (But expensive by Thailand standards.) just RTFF for reports on Non Thai Providers.
Just try a visit to Thailand. You will find everything you could wish for there!
Hotman.
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Shanjahan
Pattaya is the best place to have fun in the world because is not only walking street is all the city, is so easy to find a girl who want you) , in my last trip in Pattaya was in November I was only sleeping max 6-7 hour in day because time go so fast. In daytime I was go to fitness and after thai massage for 80 bath and haircut for only 70 bath, and the best time is go out is around 1700 because is not too hot, I was going to central festival or big see and other place they are a lot of girls you can talk with and get number and fuck them. In night time I was go mixx and other nightclub I can not tell everything because everyone has he secret where is the best place for freelancer). Last time I was in mixx I was in the house place I talk with a lot of Russian girls and I catch one I go with her room for free because many are Russian tourist but you need to speak some russia and depend how good looking you are. Ps : Russian girls don't like indian man or thai people or who speak to fast english.
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Short time / Long time
I have been visiting Pattaya for more than 10 years, I always manage to find a bar girl for 1000baht for all night and any night I wish. I have had some afternoon sessions for 500 short time it is never really a problem. Beach road has some good lookers some days and 500 baht there has always been enough. I will be returning shortly and hope to keep to the 1000baht regime, I have had a few gogo girls were I have paid 1500-2000 but the service has never been worth the extra, I remember one year I took a girl from Soi 8 she was good looking on one side but the other side of her face was badly disfigured, looked like burns. Anyway she was very friendly and had a good body so I bar fined her, she gave me one of the best performances I have had. I tipped her the 1000 baht in the morning and she was very very happy, meant to go back for her another day but got snared, I have never seen her since on Soi 8.
May the force be with you.
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Short time long time
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1121848]I'm from England! And you?
Yep, there are Russians (But expensive by Thailand standards.) just RTFF for reports on Non Thai Providers.
Just try a visit to Thailand. You will find everything you could wish for there!
Hotman. [/QUOTE]Sweden southern sweden near copenhagen.
I am probably going in summer I hope.
Did you check out the site I gave you? Or not interested?
Anyway
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[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1121914]I have been visiting Pattaya for more than 10 years, I always manage to find a bar girl for 1000baht for all night and any night I wish. I have had some afternoon sessions for 500 short time it is never really a problem. Beach road has some good lookers some days and 500 baht there has always been enough. I will be returning shortly and hope to keep to the 1000baht regime, I have had a few gogo girls were I have paid 1500-2000 but the service has never been worth the extra, I remember one year I took a girl from Soi 8 she was good looking on one side but the other side of her face was badly disfigured, looked like burns. Anyway she was very friendly and had a good body so I bar fined her, she gave me one of the best performances I have had. I tipped her the 1000 baht in the morning and she was very very happy, meant to go back for her another day but got snared, I have never seen her since on Soi 8.
May the force be with you. [/QUOTE]Hey. You are a lucky fellow. 1000 baht is cheap for a night. Was ony of them 8 and above on a scale of ten.
I will report monger if I get the chance. First off to gdynia poland.
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F off
I'm just writing to wholehartedly F off all those idiots who are paying over the odds for a shag, Russian American Japanese whoever you are, I'm 37 and still "reasonably" good looking yet some freelancers are asking 3000bath LT, I mean, seriously? If they ask it there must be some scumbag who give it to them, so, just F off you bas7ards, enjoy your money.
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[QUOTE=Shanjahan; 1121923]Hey. You are a lucky fellow. 1000 baht is cheap for a night. Was ony of them 8 and above on a scale of ten.
I will report monger if I get the chance. First off to gdynia poland. [/QUOTE]I have been to Katowice Poland, and you will find that mongering In Thailand and Poland are totally different.
Yes there are some nice girls on Odloty, and Polish girls on the whole can be sexy, but I found the service offered average, only one pop, extra for BBBJ etc.
1000b for a average Thai Is a lot of money, many shop or office workers earn 2000b a week, so now you know why many girls do P4P.
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[QUOTE=Alistair;1121925]I'm just writing to wholehartedly F off all those idiots who are paying over the odds for a shag, Russian American Japanese whoever you are, I'm 37 and still "reasonably" good looking yet some freelancers are asking 3000bath LT, I mean, seriously? If they ask it there must be some scumbag who give it to them, so, just F off you bas7ards, enjoy your money.[/QUOTE]I don't blame the girls for asking 3k, as we know some newbies will pay It, but many of the girls expect and will accept less, most girls can suss out a monger In about 6 seconds, they usually know whether to bull shit him or not, many times I've had a laugh with bargirls, they told me how stupid some guys are, how much they paid them bla bla bla, we know this Is all a game.
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You're wrong, it's not just newbies who pay them so much, I would forgive them, it's just the other bunch of money wasters I can't understand. I've coming to LOS for ages and they know it in a matter of seconds, my friend owns a bar in soi 6 and he also was quoted 3k a few times. My F off stays there, not to the newbies, to all money wasters and market spoilers.
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[QUOTE=Jerboa;1121931]I don't blame the girls for asking 3k, as we know some newbies will pay It, but many of the girls expect and will accept less, most girls can suss out a monger In about 6 seconds, they usually know whether to bull shit him or not, many times I've had a laugh with bargirls, they told me how stupid some guys are, how much they paid them bla bla bla, we know this Is all a game.[/QUOTE]So who is to blame? It's definitely not the Indians on this one. LOL. Things are getting ridiculous though. Raggedy Walking Street hookers are asking 1000 ST! Chicks in the discos are turning their noses up at 1000 LT, like they can afford to do such a thing. As one of my wingmen says,"Some money is better than no money."
I was talking to a girl in the disco last night. She looked great. Light skinned from Issan. She wanted 1500 and refused to accept 1000. This was right at 2 a.m. I gave her my phone number and told her that I am not rich and when she comes to her senses to give me a call. She started texting me at 2:45 but I was already knee deep by then. She finally called at 4:51 a.m., ready to make a sane deal but I had already done something that I have never done in my Pattaya career and in no way regret. I had just given a girl 1000 baht for ST (the past 2 hours!). Report to follow.
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Money talk
Gave up talking about money with bg's long ago.
You are after stunners in a gogo maybe you have to. But more often than not their performance was sub standard.
Like a previous poster said you have to have that connection, its something you can pick up very quickly with practice.
Or there is the ability to pick the desparate girl. Not the actress but the genuine desparate they can be fun.
In the morning they get 1000b standard or 1500b if I really like their efforts and if they are exceptional they get breakfast as well.
Never had a girl complain about the money, in fact its harder to shake them off.
Funny how they can pick a newbie instantly. Sometimes for fun I tell them its my first time to Thailand, straight away they say "not you first time" with a knowing smile.
I just love playing the game.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1122029]So who is to blame? It's definitely not the Indians on this one. LOL. Things are getting ridiculous though. Raggedy Walking Street hookers are asking 1000 ST! Chicks in the discos are turning their noses up at 1000 LT, like they can afford to do such a thing. As one of my wingmen says,"Some money is better than no money."
I was talking to a girl in the disco last night. She looked great. Light skinned from Issan. She wanted 1500 and refused to accept 1000. This was right at 2 a. M. I gave her my phone number and told her that I am not rich and when she comes to her senses to give me a call. She started texting me at 2:45 but I was already knee deep by then. She finally called at 4:51 a. M, ready to make a sane deal but I had already done something that I have never done in my Pattaya career and in no way regret. I had just given a girl 1000 baht for ST (the past 2 hours!). Report to follow. [/QUOTE]Yes blame the overpaying mongers, Pattaya has been steadilly getting more like BKK by the day, there have been to many 2 week millionaires throwing ping pong balls and baht around, just to pretend they're Hugh Heffner. Depends on the girl, some wait out on a higher price because they know they can get It, or they have a sponsor so no need to fuck every farang In WS. You did the right thing to give your number and move on, she was hoping you'd think with your dick.
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Pure Freak
I was in the disco last night and a chick called me over. I was thinking about taking her with me but she wanted to hook me up with her friend who was older. Okay I thought to myself. I could probably get her for 700 or 800 baht. But I wanted to walk around the club one more time before we left so I promised them that I would be back.
When I got to the back of the club I saw a girl with big ass titties dancing provocatively. I had seen her earlier but didn't really pay her any attention because I thought her attitude might have been fucked up. This time I said something to her. Five minutes later I told her,"Paa, khrap." (Let's go.) She said okay. Considering how things have been going lately I thought that I might better hammer out a deal before we walked out. I asked her how much she wanted and she said 1000. Check. I asked her until what time the next day she would be staying. She said as long as I wanted. Check.
We walked out but I kept a brisk pace well in front of her as I always do them so none of the other hookers can later say they saw me leave with someone. We walked down to 7-11 where I always park my motorbike. When we got to my room she immediately undressed and took a shower. When she came out she started kissing my chest and started giving me a BBBJ. This went on for a while then she asked for a condom. When I got up for the condom I decided to get my camera out. I took a few shots then she wanted to get back to business. I put on my vibrating penis ring and she started sucking more, asking what it was.
She put the condom on and I got on top of her. She was so dry that it was quite uncomfortable so I got up to go for the Astroglide and a vibrator. I dripped the Astroglide on her while she was in the quad position. Then I thought to myself,"Let me drip a little on her asshole and see how she reacts." I rubbed it around her pussy and went to work. We did several positions but the feeling was not right. It was not good at all. Probably some of the worst I have ever had feeling-wise. It was like somebody stole the pussy and left the box it came in. She had the right attitude though. 100% freak. She was a star quarterback without a football. All the right moves and everything. I decided to try to put my thumb in her ass. She did not flinch.
O well. I might as well see if she will let me put my dick in. Again not as much as a quiver. So we did about 30 minutes of ass fucking in all different positions while she played with the vibrator on her pussy. Eventually I took the penis ring off. I tried my best to cum but could not. She was physically wearing me out. She stayed with the vibrator cumming over and over and over again and waking up my neighbors. I ended up taking the condom off and jacking off in her mouth / face.
It did not matter. She maintained her position and would not stop with the vibrator, not even taking a moment to wipe the cum from her face and mouth. I put my camera on the tripod and started the video. I called a few friends back home so they could hear what they were missing out on. She kept telling them,"I'm so horny. Come fuck me please." Then I got my laptop out, put it right between her legs, and connected on video with my cousin. I asked her how many times she came so far and she said that she lost count. It literally had to be at least 25. After 20 minutes or so I felt bad and decided to get a washcloth to clean her face up. I had to do all of the work because she still would not stop. My camera shot about 30 minutes of video before the memory card filled up. My cousin cursed me out and disconnected because she made him horny and his dick hard.
If there was a contest she would have put the Energizer Bunny out of work. Did I mention that I had to change batteries in the vibrator during her session. She finally tired herself out and said that she was hungry. I asked what she wanted to eat and she said Lao food. I said huh? But you are Thai. She said no. She is from Laos. So I pointed to my desk drawer where I always leave 1000 baht before I go to the disco.
After all that shit there was no need in requiring her to stay until morning. Hell I was really afraid that SHE would want a repeat. She fulfilled all of the prerequisites except for the one that she obviously could not do anything about. She went above and beyond. I dropped her off at the market on Pattaya Tai so she could get some food. I went to McDonald's and the girl who turned down my 1000 baht offer earlier called me with a change of heart. I told her that I had just left my room to get something to eat and I was too tired and would talk to her the next day. It was 4:51 a.m.
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Nat from Heaven. Soi 7
There's a lovely girl working at a beer bar called Heaven located on Soi 7.
She's small and cute. Her name is Nat. Has a dodgy tooth though, but if you can ignore that you will think she is cute and pretty. She also looks very innocent but wait till she is in your room. She is anything but innocent.
I barfined her today, cost 300 for the bar, and ST was 1000.
We had a shower together, and then lots of kissing and groping before full sex. Really nice GFE, and Nat was ready for another session straight after I came. I couldn't though as I have to go out to see another girl. Need to save some juice for her.
If you like small innocent looking girls (pussycats) that become a tiger in the bedroom, then she is a great choice.
She starts work around 3, so try and go early as I've seen her barfined quite a few times.
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Great report. I wonder what if?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1122200]She was so dry that it was quite uncomfortable so I got up to go for the Astroglide and a vibrator. Then I thought to myself,"Let me drip a little on her asshole and see how she reacts." I rubbed it around her pussy and went to work. We did several positions but the feeling was not right. It was not good at all. It was like somebody stole the pussy and left the box it came in. .[/QUOTE]Hey Mr. Enternational,
Nice report and not to disrespect you or discredit you, cold she have been a post op TS? Just a thought.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=A158; 1122282]Hey Mr. Enternational,
Nice report and not to disrespect you or discredit you, cold she have been a post op TS? Just a thought. [/QUOTE]She was definitely a woman. That is why I put the pictures up for you guys to check out. I don't think any surgery in the world would be that good. No implants, no incisions anywhere. I asked where she got her tits from and she said her mom.
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Wow
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1122298]She was definitely a woman. That is why I put the pictures up for you guys to check out. I don't think any surgery in the world would be that good. No implants, no incisions anywhere. I asked where she got her tits from and she said her mom.[/QUOTE]That is very interesting. Like I said before, I was not making a joke of this. I was just wondering. Lets get back to posting pictures.
Cheers.
A158
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Sheets and Towels
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1121628]When I was staying in hotels I didn't care about bringing different girls back and fucking up as many sheets and towels as I wanted. I was never really concerned about a safety aspect either. Hell, I could change rooms or hotels at the drop of a hat. But now that I have my own place 1) I don't want all of those hookers knowing where I live and 2) I now have to buy and wash towels and sheets my damn self. Considering how cheap you can have clothes made here, I never knew sheets and towels were so damn expensive. So if I'm doing short time I would much rather prefer paying 100 baht for a ST hotel. I only bring non-pros or girls from the disco who I have regularly seen and are quite familiar with back to my place.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with this observation. Thai girls get so jealous too, my one girlfriend made me buy new sheets when she suspected that I screwed a bargirl in my apartment. They really are observant, knowing that a few condoms were missing and too many towels were used up. The cost of washing towels in tourist areas is outragous. Laundry almost cost as much a ST services, how backwards is that?
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Will go down to mixx. Beach street?
I will find my way to MIXX next time to Pattaya (next Sunday) , thanks! Mucha gracias!
[QUOTE=Spanishboy 29;1121870]Pattaya is the best place to have fun in the world because is not only walking street is all the city, is so easy to find a girl who want you) , in my last trip in Pattaya was in November I was only sleeping max 6-7 hour in day because time go so fast. In daytime I was go to fitness and after thai massage for 80 bath and haircut for only 70 bath, and the best time is go out is around 1700 because is not too hot, I was going to central festival or big see and other place they are a lot of girls you can talk with and get number and fuck them. In night time I was go mixx and other nightclub I can not tell everything because everyone has he secret where is the best place for freelancer). Last time I was in mixx I was in the house place I talk with a lot of Russian girls and I catch one I go with her room for free because many are Russian tourist but you need to speak some russia and depend how good looking you are. Ps : Russian girls don't like indian man or thai people or who speak to fast english.[/QUOTE]
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Once Upon a Time in Pattaya
I have just returned from a trip to Thailand and spent some time in Bangkok and, for the first time, Pattaya. I was a little skeptical at first, as I've been to Phuket and had a really good time down there so I thought how could Pattaya be better?
I went mainly to the U Too Bar on second road as it was close to where I was staying and the girls there were very friendly. I didn't bar fine any for the first two nights but the third night I met another girl and I took her out. Cost was 400 bar fine and 2000LT which I thought was a little high but she looked lovely to me and she was very friendly. I thought "What the hell? Let's go!" I took her out quite early in the evening so, after plying a few games of pool, we toured a couple of other bars where she knew some of the girls and then we went to Walking St. She took me to Angelwitch and I was wowed by their show. Very good looking girls there indeed. By this time she's getting quite drunk so I thought it time for her to slow up a bit. We went for food, then back to my place.
She was awesome! I had such a good time but then, quite suddenly she fell asleep. Oh well. In the morning I took her to breakfast and asked her if she wanted to go to Bangkok with me. She agreed so she stayed with me till the end of my holiday, except for the last day. I gave her a tip for each day, it was an extraordinary experience, totally the GFE in extremis. For 2000 a day I had a companion, a guide, a lover, a girlfriend all wrapped into one. One night she wanted me to bar fine a girl from a bar in Nana Entertainment Area so she could watch me play, then she wanted a lesbian experience too, which was ok to begin with but then I sort of got kicked out of bed which annoyed me a lot. It showed and she wanted to know why I was angry, but after having a chat about it, we were ok again.
All in all, I'd go back tomorrow. I love Thailand and I will try to go back there as often as I can.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1122029]So who is to blame? It's definitely not the Indians on this one. LOL. Things are getting ridiculous though. Raggedy Walking Street hookers are asking 1000 ST! Chicks in the discos are turning their noses up at 1000 LT, like they can afford to do such a thing. As one of my wingmen says,"Some money is better than no money."[/QUOTE]Some beach road girls are asking 1000ST now also. Just get used to rising prices. LOS has been getting more expensive by the year and will continue to do so. Nature of the beast!
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[QUOTE=Chingdowman;1122371]Cost was 400 bar fine and 2000LT which I thought was a little high but she looked lovely to me and she was very friendly. I thought "What the hell? Let's go!" it was an extraordinary experience, totally the GFE in extremis. For 2000 a day I had a companion, a guide, a lover, a girlfriend all wrapped into one.[/QUOTE]Ok let me guess, you said to her how much? And she quickly said 2k, you would of likely been able to get her service for half that, you do understand this Is Pattaya, and you are expected to haggle? If you are to take a lady for more than one night you should get a discount on her LT rate, I bet she enjoyed staying with a generous guy like you.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1122029]. As one of my wingmen says,"Some money is better than no money."
[/QUOTE]It is a POV, no doubt. But if a girl asks for 3000 and gets a customer every three days instead of getting a customer a day@1000 (for same amount of pops) she still makes 3000 in three days (ie 30000 in a month) but wears out her body only 1/3 of the times.
Not her to make judgements on who is right (the girl is right in her own perception, my POV) but simply doing the math.
Shouldn't she succeeed to hit the target for 3k every 3 days, might be a possibility.
But we also know some of them do not hit the 1k target every day.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1122399]Some beach road girls are asking 1000ST now also. Just get used to rising prices. LOS has been getting more expensive by the year and will continue to do so. Nature of the beast![/QUOTE]The Bush babes are still available from 200bt ST. And that is in your room, not in the jungle!
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[QUOTE=Bumholes1;1122670]The Bush babes are still available from 200bt ST. And that is in your room, not in the jungle![/QUOTE]I rode through the other morning and saw a STUNNER! She was talking to a Thai guy who was on a motorbike so I just kept going. I hadn't planned to do anything anyway I was just checking out the scene since Goyave said there are some good ones early in the morning and I happened to be awake and out. He was indeed correct.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1122200]I was in the disco last night and a chick called me over. I was thinking about taking her with me but she wanted to hook me up with her friend who was older. Okay I thought to myself. I could probably get her for 700 or 800 baht. But I wanted to walk around the club one more time before we left so I promised them that I would be back.
When I got to the back of the club I saw a girl with big ass titties dancing provocatively. I had seen her earlier but didn't really pay her any attention because I thought her attitude might have been fucked up. This time I said something to her. Five minutes later I told her,"Paa, khrap." (Let's go.) She said okay. Considering how things have been going lately I thought that I might better hammer out a deal before we walked out. I asked her how much she wanted and she said 1000. Check. I asked her until what time the next day she would be staying. She said as long as I wanted. Check.
We walked out but I kept a brisk pace well in front of her as I always do them so none of the other hookers can later say they saw me leave with someone. We walked down to 7-11 where I always park my motorbike. When we got to my room she immediately undressed and took a shower. When she came out she started kissing my chest and started giving me a BBBJ. This went on for a while then she asked for a condom. When I got up for the condom I decided to get my camera out. I took a few shots then she wanted to get back to business. I put on my vibrating penis ring and she started sucking more, asking what it was.
She put the condom on and I got on top of her. She was so dry that it was quite uncomfortable so I got up to go for the Astroglide and a vibrator. I dripped the Astroglide on her while she was in the quad position. Then I thought to myself,"Let me drip a little on her asshole and see how she reacts." I rubbed it around her pussy and went to work. We did several positions but the feeling was not right. It was not good at all. Probably some of the worst I have ever had feeling-wise. It was like somebody stole the pussy and left the box it came in. She had the right attitude though. 100% freak. She was a star quarterback without a football. All the right moves and everything. I decided to try to put my thumb in her ass. She did not flinch.
O well. I might as well see if she will let me put my dick in. Again not as much as a quiver. So we did about 30 minutes of ass fucking in all different positions while she played with the vibrator on her pussy. Eventually I took the penis ring off. I tried my best to cum but could not. She was physically wearing me out. She stayed with the vibrator cumming over and over and over again and waking up my neighbors. I ended up taking the condom off and jacking off in her mouth / face.
It did not matter. She maintained her position and would not stop with the vibrator, not even taking a moment to wipe the cum from her face and mouth. I put my camera on the tripod and started the video. I called a few friends back home so they could hear what they were missing out on. She kept telling them,"I'm so horny. Come fuck me please." Then I got my laptop out, put it right between her legs, and connected on video with my cousin. I asked her how many times she came so far and she said that she lost count. It literally had to be at least 25. After 20 minutes or so I felt bad and decided to get a washcloth to clean her face up. I had to do all of the work because she still would not stop. My camera shot about 30 minutes of video before the memory card filled up. My cousin cursed me out and disconnected because she made him horny and his dick hard.
If there was a contest she would have put the Energizer Bunny out of work. Did I mention that I had to change batteries in the vibrator during her session. She finally tired herself out and said that she was hungry. I asked what she wanted to eat and she said Lao food. I said huh? But you are Thai. She said no. She is from Laos. So I pointed to my desk drawer where I always leave 1000 baht before I go to the disco.
After all that shit there was no need in requiring her to stay until morning. Hell I was really afraid that SHE would want a repeat. She fulfilled all of the prerequisites except for the one that she obviously could not do anything about. She went above and beyond. I dropped her off at the market on Pattaya Tai so she could get some food. I went to McDonald's and the girl who turned down my 1000 baht offer earlier called me with a change of heart. I told her that I had just left my room to get something to eat and I was too tired and would talk to her the next day. It was 4:51 a. M. [/QUOTE]Well done Mr. Enternational very nice indeed.
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Looking for wingmen
Hey guys, I just landed and want to find cool people in their 20s or 30s to hang out and hit the beaches and / or bars with. Let me know, cheers!
P. S. I guess Soi 6 is the best place, is that correct? And which specific bars have the hottest girls? Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey; 1123123]Hey guys, I just landed and want to find cool people in their 20s or 30s to hang out and hit the beaches and / or bars with. Let me know, cheers!
P. S. I guess Soi 6 is the best place, is that correct? And which specific bars have the hottest girls? Thanks![/QUOTE]Hey lucky I will meet you at soi 6 corner bar at 10 tomorrow tues the 15th k.
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[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey; 1123123]Hey guys, I just landed and want to find cool people in their 20s or 30s to hang out and hit the beaches and / or bars with. Let me know, cheers!
P. S. I guess Soi 6 is the best place, is that correct? And which specific bars have the hottest girls? Thanks! [/QUOTE]Try Hi boss and Pook bar on soi 6, you will find some hot ones there.
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[QUOTE=Jerboa;1123341]Try Hi boss and Pook bar on soi 6, you will find some hot ones there.[/QUOTE]Damn you Jerboa! You just made me choke on my sandwich!
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1122298]She was definitely a woman. That is why I put the pictures up for you guys to check out. I don't think any surgery in the world would be that good. No implants, no incisions anywhere. I asked where she got her tits from and she said her mom.[/QUOTE]Had the same thoughts on the genuine gender, sut for the sake of the argument, nothing else but I made a couple of more thoughts.
A) an attentive post-op never leaves KY at home.
Be) seen the pictures, not as a ne expert, but from a couple of factors looks it is all legitimate down there.
She really looked PSE.
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Have a drink together and looking for girls
Hey Lucky and guys. How long you stay in Pattaya? I will arrive on Saturday this week for only one night. Also looking for some funs over there. Hopefully there are plenty of hot girls in town. Why not have a beer together?
[QUOTE=Goldmember33;1123222]Hey lucky I will meet you at soi 6 corner bar at 10 tomorrow tues the 15th k.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Watson29;1123360]Hey Lucky and guys. How long you stay in Pattaya? I will arrive on Saturday this week for only one night. Also looking for some funs over there. Hopefully there are plenty of hot girls in town. Why not have a beer together?[/QUOTE]Sure. I am up for a beer on Saturday! Same place same time?
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If anyone wants to grab a beer and go meet some girls, just message me with your # and I'll give you a shout. Cheers!
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Also what are some other good places to go aside from walking street and soi 6?
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[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1123357]Had the same thoughts on the genuine gender, sut for the sake of the argument, nothing else but I made a couple of more thoughts.
A) an attentive post-op never leaves KY at home.
Be) seen the pictures, not as a ne expert, but from a couple of factors looks it is all legitimate down there.
She really looked PSE. [/QUOTE]I did too. That is why I was checking for scars and anything else that might not have been right. It was all pink and normal in the inside.
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Beach Road
I've been mongering a few times on beach Road, between 8-10pm and can usually get a cute one for between 500-700 baht.
Some do come down to 500 baht but others stick to their 600 or 700 price. I would only pay if they are worth it, but always try to haggle first.
Still a good saving, as no bar fine incurred or having to buy any drinks from a bar.
Then once you have their number, can always call them to my place.
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[QUOTE=Goldmember33;1123222]Hey lucky I will meet you at soi 6 corner bar at 10 tomorrow tues the 15th k.[/QUOTE]I think Saigon Girls, Sexy in the city have nice girls on Soi 6
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Phew Thoughts.
am busy this trip so not reporting as i did last time. anyway, phew thoughts.
last summer want to that place across from the gokarts. cheap experienced gals there. three days ago returned. it was figure 8:pm and rather dark. went to the gokart place. made the right turn. street completely dark. no lights at all. five dogs were barking at me. walked further. about 4 more dogs in the distance. screw this. yes i like adventure, but my idea of adventure is not getting attacked by a pack of dogs in some dark street. walked around to the other side of the street. saw a few people moving but there were no lights at all. walking up. thinking to myself, is this the last day of my life? have i rocks in my head? turned 'round. screw this.
yesterday was strange. had my breakfast of champions, coffee and 3 eggs. first time since i arrived (january 28) was raining and hard. very hard. so, am eating my eggs and suddenly bang! fire! place across the street the electronic sign exploded. caught on fire. people in my restaurant were concerned. waiter took fire extinguisher and put out the flames. raining still hard. fire out. few minutes later again bang! same spot. second fire. these buildings are made like paper, and under correct conditions i could see a fire destroying everything in site and quick. still i was across the street. more amused than anything. and if an all out massive fire broke out, i would heroically run away in the opposite direction as fast as humanly possible.
since it was raining hard, decided to do the massage / movie thing. walked to near golden girls. gal there grabbed me and wanted to do the $200 baht oil massage. slight older. nice bubble butt. ok. soon came the playing with little popper. she offered the bbbj for $500. ok. she wanted me to come, but little popper was in full form. have read about [i]"holding" it a bit longer, [/i]and it works. pretty much anyway. the bj turned to a hj which always makes me weary since sometimes these gals scratches and scrapes little popper. however, there was lots of oil and an overall nice job. when leaving she offered me her asss, not in the mp but only in a real hotel for the next time. damn her butt would be nice. should have gotten her cell. my fault. may get later.
still raining. time was figure 3:30. on that street was nevada and far east asia gogo. recall nevada was north of the street, but could be wrong. anyway, went to the gogo which was to the north. ordered a cup of coffee. this was the first time i entered a gogo / bar beer this trip and first time i ordered a drink in these places. often eat breakfast which includes three eggs and coffee for 60 baht. here in a gogo coffee alone was 80 baht. whatever. one gal on stage and bunch of old fat farangs watching her. lame. very lame. getting my bearings and all, and decided to watch a movie at the new theater. walked north on second and while near kiss me diner on soi diana this truck scrapped this awning and drove off. terrible loud noise. looking carefully this awning was way too low and far out, and it looked like many trucks scrapped this awning a lot. funny how they do not care.
made it to the theater and decided on gilliver's travel. for the first time this trip went to sizzler and ordered their salad bar for about 160 baht and did bit of work. silly movie. went back walking street and saw this uzbec, would say she slightly below average. however, these russian / uzi gals are often frigging stunning. i mean like fluck me the average looking gal is near gorgeous and models are stunnnnnners. could someone please tell me why these gals are all stunning while american women look comparatively like sh*t? anyway, we spoke, or as much as we could since her enguishie was near non-existent. she wanted 4000 baht for an hour. ummmm. i would need an absolute model for that, and even then would pass. 4000 baht i could get close to 7 gals st, so she would have to be incredible beyond words. granted many of these women are!
was evening and went to lucifers. w / in few minutes found cutie. she 24 and nice all around. looked natural as can be. shocked when she said she had two kids, one being seven years. asked and she said 500 baht and off we went. we were having so much fun in the sack was considering her for long time. little popper for some reason was in full form, and she had three os. was really into it, and she a lot of fun. her cell went and it her english bf who called and wanted her. guess he wanted sloppy seconds and to taste popper's come when kissing her. got her cell number.
damn i hate pattaya.
--popper
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Back to the Shacks
[QUOTE=Popper1;1123797]Last summer want to that place across from the GoKarts. Cheap experienced gals there. Three days ago returned.[/QUOTE]I met a girl in Tukcom the other day. I was buying a set of earphones and she was getting music on her phone. She was with a gay / not-quite-ladyboy-yet guy. She doesn't speak much English but has been calling me the last few days. So today we decided to meet up back at Tukcom at 1pm and go bowling from there. Why did she bring the guy with her. Then when I told her that we will go alone just us two she didn't want to. So I bid her adieu. No free lunches here pal. Especially for someone I have 0% chance of relations with.
So I headed over to Beach Road. I walked between Central Festival and Royal Garden. It was really too early. I only saw 1 that I would have done, but she would not come down from 500 to my 300 offering price. So I went to try my luck at the GoKart place.
There were a few chicks sitting on a mat across and up from the normal spot. I pointed to the best one according to my standards. (She was decent enough that I even considered bringing her back to my place - then I woke up.) She hopped on the back of my motorbike and we went down to the shacks. Started off with BBBJ, went to mish, then doggy. I didn't plan on sweating my ass off in there all day so I started jacking off in her mouth while she sat up. I wanted to get it in her mouth and on the outside but she was persistent about not wasting a drop. No negotiations. Just gave her 200 baht after the deed. Kept hitting my head on the damn ceiling every time I stood up though. Next time I might try to get away with giving 100 baht and see where that gets me.
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Nightmare experience so far
After reading what follows, you might get the impression that I'm a rude, morbidly obese prick who deserves to be treated like crap. See, if that were the case then I wouldn't be complaining. In reality, I'm a good natured, respectful, friendly young guy in good shape. But for some reason, my stay in Pattaya has been a nightmare so far. The girls treat me like utter crap. Did I just get extremely unlucky multiple times in a row, or am I really missing something here: how often does stuff like this happen to people?
Night 1: took a somewhat brisk walk through Soi 6 and 7, without really going into any places to be honest, but didn't really see any girls hotter than maybe 7, and that's in the dark with makeup, so that means 6 in the morning. Outcome: slightly disappointed, but confident I'll find an 8 or 9 with a bit more effort the next day.
Night 2: this was Valentines, so I put in a valiant effort and went to a ton of places on Soi 6 and Walking Street. Saw an 8 (finally) in Alcatraz who wanted 5, 000 for LT + 1, 000 barfine. What! Moved on to other places and saw about four 8s or a bit better, but all were with their bf's. I very politely asked just in case, and just gave the guys a high five after and moved on. Where are they getting these girls. They're hotter than any other ones I've seen here before or since (except maybe the next one). On to the main event: finally ran into a 9, possibly the hottest chick I've seen so far. She wanted 2, 000 LT, which I think is double the usual amount (correct?) , but since she was a freelancer on Walking and there is no barfine, and also because she agreed to 1, 500 I said ok. She wanted to eat first, so even though I wasn't hungry I did the polite thing and said sure why not. We ate and had a nice chat, but she complained about the 1, 500 over and over, so I said 2, 000 is fine, whatever. She was worth it. I paid for the food and we walked off, but she kept trying to walk in front of me or walk too fast, so I said hey, slow down, because she was already 3 feet in front of me. I guess she got upset because I was a bit loud, although obviously you can't exactly whisper from 3 feet away, and the way she walked (not with me but in front of me) came off as really arrogant. So she decided to test me by walking even faster and waking me to follow, and of course I said screw it: thats so disrespectful. I thought Thai women were polite? I went in the other direction, but then realized its 2am Valentines and I'm about to sleep alone because of a childish argument, so I waited by her scooter and she showed up 3 minutes later apologizing and saying she had to use the toilet. Complete bs, but whatever. She said she knew I'd wait and that she won't be disrespectful again, so I let it go. We went off to 7/11 to get some ice cream, and she told (not asked, but ordered) me to pay. I laughed and I said sorry no, its very cheap and you should pay to say sorry for before, and I already agreed to give you extra 500 and paid 400 for food, so its the least you can do. She agreed, paid the counter, but when we got outside said she's leaving. I thought she was kidding and said yeah go, and she walked off. I was shocked. I've never had a women walk off on me (and that's in America) , and she just did it twice! I waited by the scooter for 10 min but nothing. Normally I wouldn't have waited because I hate disrespectful chicks who think they can walk all over men, but this was already my 2nd day and still no play, so I eased up a bit and called her because she geve me the number earlier. She apologized profusely again, said shell call me back in 10 minutes, and (to my surprise at this point) called back saying sorry she can't make it tonight because she has to be back home by 5 to take care of her baby). Sounds like bs, but I called her again the next day and said come to my nice 4 star hotel, we can swim in the pool and have a nice time and she hung up. Wow just wow. This was my worst / weirdest experience with a chick to date as I normally show respect and get it, and she was just fvcking with me. But if you think thugs bad, just wait and read on. Outcome: extremely disappointed, but realizing there is a God and even the unlucky eventually must get lucky, so decided to head out again next night.
Night 3: lucked out and found a 9 in a go go on Soi 8. Gorgeous, but absolutely zero English. Doesn't even understand "what's your name" and "how much barfine." Mamasan had to translate that its 680 barfine (when I walked in before she lied and said 380) and 3, 000 to the girl. Holy crap 3000, and zero English or experience. I said I'll think about it and after going to Walking and finding nothing, figured whist the hell I'll bite the bullet and finally have some fun. Returned but she was gone: asked if I should come back tomorrow, but mamasan says the girl is very new and doesn't go with customers yet. Goddammit. Really tired by now and decide to give Soi 6 a final shot before giving up. Luck out (or so I thought!) and find a girl close to 8 at the first go go, and barfine her for 400 and 1500 LT. She turned out to be barely a 7 the next morning, but the kicker is that she's absolutely, as in wildly and dangerously crazy! Fuck I'm almost scared to go outside now haha. It started off innocently enough after we left the bar and went to get some food. I ate by the beach, as she wasn't hungry. I was really exhausted by now, so when I finished I asked her to please take my tray to the garbage can nearby. To my surprise, she refused. Never happened in America. What happened to Thai girls being nicer? She kept refusing, so I tried to explain that if she takes care of me I'll take care of her, and that if next time she's the one who's tired I'll herbage her food for her. No go. Didn't want to let the point go, so we went at it (in a somewhat playful but persistent way) for 2-3 mins. Finally she said she's going to leave. Wow, over this? I wasn't even rude or loud or mean about it. I really asked politely and respectfully. No go. Remembering last nights experience, I gave in and went myself. Felt like an ass. To my shock, she hailed a motorbike and got on, and insisted I apologize. Three days now and no play, so I said sorry and we left together. The sex was decent. Gave a good BBBJ, but she was really loose and despite not having had sex in a week it took me a while to cum. She refused to give up the ass, even for double price. Now, this is when things go to nightmare level. We woke up late (3pm) and she started bitching really loud, why that she had to be at work at 3 and for me to pay 600 barfine. I politely declined because I only bar fined her 12 hours prior and we only did it once, so she completely lost it and started screaming. I figured screw this: better to pay another 600 and get laid again, than to not get laid and get screamed at. Gave her the 600 and she calmed down and apologized. We were ready to go at it when I politely asked her to turn off the tv because I have a headache, and she went nuts, as in absolutely nuuuttsss. Started screaming off the top of her lungs that its up to her, so loud that honestly I was scared shitless even though I'm probably twice her size. I honestly thought she was about to knife me. Honestly I've seen crazy women before, but this was just something else. Took 10 minutes to calm down and 20 to get over it, but said she wants her "1500 NOW" and she's leaving. I figured ok good. I'm scared half to death by now and want her gone. Went to the bank machine and got her street food and cold medicine in the way because I don't want to feet a bad name in town, even if she is nuts. Came back, she thanked me for the food and caught syrup and left her number on the desk. I figured I'd ask if we can still do it (after all she's still on my bed and sex with a crazy chick is better than no sex) and she said ok but for another 500. Spent 5 minutes trying to convince her that since we only had sex once, and I already paid for long time plus 2 barfines and spent 200 on her food and medicine, I shouldn't have to pay again, but no go (no its 5pm and you have to pay). Fine. I just want to screw and never see her again. Started foreplay and she reached for her own condoms, which I specifically told her the day before I don't like because I don't trust local brands (left this part out) and buy Durex. Now I honestly said this in the nicest way possible with "please," a smile, and the works. She LOST it. Started screaming loud enough for people 3 floors up to hear, threw her purse on the floor, the condoms too, ripped them in front of my face, ripped her number, started hitting the bed with her fists and screaming in Thai. Holy, hooolyyyy crap. I haven't seen crazy like this even in movies, even on Jerry Springer. Wow, man I'm a tall and fit guy but honestly I was scared and told her I'm going to call security. She started calling her boss and said screaming about police, so I just gave her that last 500 that was for the sex we never had and kicked her out. Wow wow wow. No words, just no words guys.
Tonight is Night 4. Should I really bother even leaving the hotel at this point? I was going to stay for weeks, but I just had 3 worst days of my life, one worse than the next, and I don't know if I want to find out if it can get any worse.
Night 2:
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LOL I think a username change is in order.
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[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123930]LOL I think a username change is in order.[/QUOTE]LOL. That's exactly what I'm thinking!
Just a advice : better to BF a 7 without attitude than searching for a 9 with a superstar attitude.
Sex is far better also. IMHO
cheaper and better...what else u need ?
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[QUOTE=Marteau; 1123952]LOL. That's exactly what I'm thinking!
Just a advice : better to BF a 7 without attitude than searching for a 9 with a superstar attitude.
Sex is far better also. IMHO.
Cheaper and better. What else you need? [/QUOTE]Honestly, I'd rather stay in America than travel half way across the world and pay thousands of dollars for airfare just to fuck 7s. You don't have to leave your home country to do that LOL.
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I mean 7s are on Craigslist etc for $100 ST so you could nail 20 for the price of airfare, and probably 40-50 for the total cost of airfare, hotel, etc.
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[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123962]I mean 7s are on Craigslist etc for $100 ST so you could nail 20 for the price of airfare, and probably 40-50 for the total cost of airfare, hotel, etc.[/QUOTE]When you break it down like that I'd have to agree with you.
What is even more mind boggling is that guys spend $120 / night in hotel in Pat only to bring take a girl back who is a 4-6. Why not switch it around? Stay in a cheaper place and spend the rest on a 8 or 9?
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[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123956]Honestly, I'd rather stay in America than travel half way across the world and pay thousands of dollars for airfare just to fuck 7s. You don't have to leave your home country to do that LOL.[/QUOTE]All this 7, 8.9 stuff is garbage really, and one man's 5 is another man's 9. In my opinion there is either a 'yes' or a 'no', and for me it is usually about figure and physique rather than face. But more important is attitude.
The reason I come to Thailand is to have sexual experiences with nice girls who offer a GFE. For the cost of a short visit to Thailand I can probably have more sexual acts with bored hookers in the UK who make it very clear that it's a business transaction. Fine if that floats your boat. In Thailand I can (usually) find someone who gives every impression of enjoying sex and wanting to be with me. Yopu can have a laugh and a joke with them, they're not watching the clock, and a few little gestures of kindness can make a big difference.
Sounds like you had some pretty bad experiences there, and I guess you were just plain unlucky. Hopefully things will improve. The only advice I can give is that if things start to go wrong, cut your losses and cut loose. If you start off with a bad vibe then you won't enjoy it. And that means finding a girl relatively early, so that if things don't work out then you have enough time to go out and look for another.
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[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123962]I mean 7s are on Craigslist etc for $100 ST so you could nail 20 for the price of airfare, and probably 40-50 for the total cost of airfare, hotel, etc.[/QUOTE]You're exactly right Lukey, the rational for travel to Thailand is nothing compared to what it was years ago as prices have come down in the USA and rocketed upwards in Thailand, and perhaps more importantly as quality has plummeted in the LOS. Its all the process of development. Just follow what happened in Korea over the last decades, or Japan long before that. Our days of fun in this country are essentially drawing to a close right now.
Your report about the rude girls sounded familiar to me. Not that the girls I engage are ever rude to me (I speak Thai a bit, am 'localized', and only deal with 5s or 6s) , but I have often witnessed girls speaking incredibly rudely and disrespectfully to their farang victims. I could never put up with that.
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Lucky Lukey, just remember Pattaya is a buyer's market.
As soon as a girl shows attitude, or a compulsion to control proceedings, just calmly and politely decline her company and move on.
I would much rather waste a barfine, than humour an arrogant hooker.
As for the screamer. What a nutjob!
I've had a couple of close shaves with these types, but have managed to pick-up on the signs and ditched them before getting to the room.
Don't give up, you've just been unlucky.
Remember to be polite and friendly, but most importantly remember YOU are in control.
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Advice for Lucky
I agree totally with mouse 1. If you get the bad vibe early abandon ship quickly and look elsewhere their are plenty out there if your willing to compromise alittle. My suggestion to lucky is to talk to the mammasans first for what you are looking for and expect and she will point you in the right direction out of the girls she has working. Even buy her a drink to get on her good side. This way if there is more problems maybe she will rectify the problem with the recommended girl. Remember the gogo girls do have to answer the mamasan.
Good luck the rest of your trip Beaverhunter
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[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1123971]When you break it down like that I'd have to agree with you.
What is even more mind boggling is that guys spend $120 / night in hotel in Pat only to bring take a girl back who is a 4-6. Why not switch it around? Stay in a cheaper place and spend the rest on a 8 or 9? [/QUOTE]Insane, man. I see some decent looking dudes paying for girls who are uglier than ones they could get at home for free, and without having to pay for hotel, flight, etc. Insane, just insane.
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[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1123988]All this 7, 8.9 stuff is garbage really, and one man's 5 is another man's 9. In my opinion there is either a 'yes' or a 'no', and for me it is usually about figure and physique rather than face. But more important is attitude.
The reason I come to Thailand is to have sexual experiences with nice girls who offer a GFE. For the cost of a short visit to Thailand I can probably have more sexual acts with bored hookers in the UK who make it very clear that it's a business transaction. Fine if that floats your boat. In Thailand I can (usually) find someone who gives every impression of enjoying sex and wanting to be with me. Yopu can have a laugh and a joke with them, they're not watching the clock, and a few little gestures of kindness can make a big difference.
Sounds like you had some pretty bad experiences there, and I guess you were just plain unlucky. Hopefully things will improve. The only advice I can give is that if things start to go wrong, cut your losses and cut loose. If you start off with a bad vibe then you won't enjoy it. And that means finding a girl relatively early, so that if things don't work out then you have enough time to go out and look for another. [/QUOTE]Thanks, good advice man.
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[QUOTE=Opebo; 1123989]You're exactly right Lukey, the rational for travel to Thailand is nothing compared to what it was years ago as prices have come down in the USA and rocketed upwards in Thailand, and perhaps more importantly as quality has plummeted in the LOS. Its all the process of development. Just follow what happened in Korea over the last decades, or Japan long before that. Our days of fun in this country are essentially drawing to a close right now.
Your report about the rude girls sounded familiar to me. Not that the girls I engage are ever rude to me (I speak Thai a bit, am 'localized', and only deal with 5s or 6s) , but I have often witnessed girls speaking incredibly rudely and disrespectfully to their farang victims. I could never put up with that. [/QUOTE].
That sucks but I think you're right. What country has still got?
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[QUOTE=Chachi420; 1123995]Lucky Lukey, just remember Pattaya is a buyer's market.
As soon as a girl shows attitude, or a compulsion to control proceedings, just calmly and politely decline her company and move on.
I would much rather waste a barfine, than humour an arrogant hooker.
As for the screamer. What a nutjob!
I've had a couple of close shaves with these types, but have managed to pick-up on the signs and ditched them before getting to the room.
Don't give up, you've just been unlucky.
Remember to be polite and friendly, but most importantly remember YOU are in control. [/QUOTE]Thanks man, I'm sure tomorrow will be better. .
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[QUOTE=Beaverhunter; 1123999]I agree totally with mouse 1. If you get the bad vibe early abandon ship quickly and look elsewhere their are plenty out there if your willing to compromise alittle. My suggestion to lucky is to talk to the mammasans first for what you are looking for and expect and she will point you in the right direction out of the girls she has working. Even buy her a drink to get on her good side. This way if there is more problems maybe she will rectify the problem with the recommended girl. Remember the gogo girls do have to answer the mamasan.
Good luck the rest of your trip Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'll update you guys tomorrow!
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Question: with the crazy *****, was she lying when she said that if she's supposed to start at 3 and comes at 6 then she has to pay the barfing for 3-6 herself if she's late because of LT the night before? Also if in the future I LT someone and they're still here in the morning, should I tell them right away that I'm not paying LT for another day? Because this chick wanted to stay fir the day again and surely a big part of her getting mad was that I politely said no to another 1500.
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Indecision for Lucky Lucky
Sounds a bit like what happens to me sometimes when I am in Pattaya, I look around for the "perfect girl" for me and pass by on some good ladies, when I go back I am too late. I would suggest don't try too hard just let things happen and they will, certainly in Pattaya. Try hunting a little bit off the beaten track, there are some bars on 2nd road in between soi Diana and soi 8 which are always quiet and the girls are desperate for a bar fine, ok quality is limited but they all look good in the dark and a sterling performance is what matters. I am in Pattaya in 10 days so try not to fuck it up too much.
May the force be with you.
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[quote=lucky lukey;1123956]honestly, i'd rather stay in america than travel half way across the world and pay thousands of dollars for airfare just to fuck 7s. you don't have to leave your home country to do that lol.[/quote]you need to relax, lucky lukey.
your approach to pattaya is all wrong. you're missing out on all the fun. i've read your reports. you sound desperate. it's like you have a sign tattooed on your forehead that says: victim. girls are picking up bad vibes from you. they put up with a lot of bad vibes from young guys who play mind games and expect too much from them. that's why most of them prefer to deal with relaxed older guys like me. :)
your first mistake was looking for long time gfe with 8's and 9's from the moment you arrived. what you should have done first thing after checking in to your hotel was a visit to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for a blowjob from a girl whose only professional purpose in life is to give blowjobs to horny farangs. granted, they aren't 8's or 9's, but they will happily take the edge off for you right now; no bullshit, arguing, chit-chat, shopping, or other nonsense, for 700baht. many of them even swallow. you won't get that on craig's list for $23. and you don't get long time gfe from 7's on craig's list for $100.
once you got the edge off, you can slow down, relax, and take your time to discover all the delights pattaya has to offer. there are thousands of attractive young girls here. almost all of them are available; even waitresses and shop girls. getting good sex from girls you want in pattaya is like ordering pizza in the usa. here the girls approach you. you can't walk down the street without getting lots of smiles and invitations for more.
go to a massage joint for an oily with happy ending in the afternoons. that will cost you maybe 500 baht for 2 hours, and take care of your desperation so you can visit the go-go bars at night and take your time looking for stunners who show interest in you. don't chase girls who aren't into you. you can usually tell if a lady is interested or not.
never take a girl long time until you've experienced her short time. that's a cardinal rule of successful mongering. most of the nightmare reports i've read about on this forum have involved guys getting stuck long time with starfish or psycho's they didn't bother to get to know before making the deal.
this is paradise on earth compared to the usa when it comes to pretty young girls and sex for peanuts. all you need to have is a good relaxed attitude and a little money to enjoy them.
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[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker;1124044]ok quality is limited but they all look good in the dark and a sterling performance is what matters.[/QUOTE]See everyone is different.
I could never be ok with an ugly in the dark. If you want hot young girls in Pat nowdays, you have to work at it and be very strategic on where you hunt and know how to deal with competition. Speaking Thai helps tremendously also. Pattaya is more competitive then ever and quality versus prices is messed up. Is it still worth visiting? Sure, but just don't expect everything to fall in your lap.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1124085]See everyone is different.
I could never be ok with an ugly in the dark. If you want hot young girls in Pat nowdays, you have to work at it and be very strategic on where you hunt and know how to deal with competition. Speaking Thai helps tremendously also. Pattaya is more competitive then ever and quality versus prices is messed up. Is it still worth visiting? Sure, but just don't expect everything to fall in your lap. [/QUOTE]I agree. I couldn't go all the way to Pattaya just to bang uglies when I can do that here in NY. I like them cute not ugly and not gorgeous. The gorgeous ones are usually the most problems cause they think they can walk over you and hope you quiver. Fuck that. We are the ones with the money so we are the bosses as long as there is respect on both sides.
Just off topic a bit, what are the going prices now for BF, LT AND ST. I see alot of crazy amounts. Is it because now is the high season. I will be heading out there in May which according to hotel rates is Low Season.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1124085]See everyone is different.
I could never be ok with an ugly in the dark. If you want hot young girls in Pat nowdays, you have to work at it and be very strategic on where you hunt and know how to deal with competition. Speaking Thai helps tremendously also. Pattaya is more competitive then ever and quality versus prices is messed up. Is it still worth visiting? Sure, but just don't expect everything to fall in your lap.[/QUOTE]Agreed. No matter how dark it is I just can't handle grabbing hold of large amounts of flesh. I bought a Thai language DVD from Mike Shopping Mall. I hope to learn a few basic sentences that will help me next time.
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[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123962]I mean 7s are on Craigslist etc for $100 ST so you could nail 20 for the price of airfare, and probably 40-50 for the total cost of airfare, hotel, etc.[/QUOTE]8s. 9s, and 10s are on CL too (I'm guessing, never been on there). But the whole point to me of coming over is to have an adult-Disneyland type of a good time, not just to fuck a couple of 10s. If that was the only case I definitely would not come this damn far. Colombia is much closer and they, along with Thailand, have the most beautiful women on the planet IMHO.
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[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1123346]Damn you Jerboa! You just made me choke on my sandwich![/QUOTE]At those shops, he'll choke on something more than a sandwich if not careful.
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Semi-pro
Greetings to all.
Have RTFF and have found allusions to the availability of shop girls and waitresses but no stories pertaining to them.
Among the reasons Africa is my favorite mongering destination is the ubiquity of the semi-pro: office girls, shop girls, clerks, cleaners. Girls of every apparently non-pro persuasion are largely available.
Has anyone got much experience with this sort of scene in Pattaya? In Thailand? For a non-Thai-speaker?
Thanks in advance
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Did you score?
[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1124015]Thanks. I'll update you guys tomorrow![/QUOTE]Well L. L.
Have you broken your run of bad luck?
Tell us your (good) news!
DID YOU SCORE?
We are all cheering for you so PLEASE tell us!
Hotman.
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[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123928]I was really exhausted by now, so when I finished I asked her to please take my tray to the garbage can nearby. To my surprise, she refused. Never happened in America. What happened to Thai girls being nicer? She kept refusing, so I tried to explain that if she takes care of me I'll take care of her, and that if next time she's the one who's tired I'll herbage her food for her. No go. Didn't want to let the point go, so we went at it (in a somewhat playful but persistent way) for 2-3 mins. Finally she said she's going to leave. Wow, over this?[/QUOTE]Thai girls always say: Farang talk too much. Looks like you're the proof. What are you fussing about? You fight about who has to take the garbage away before you even know the girl, before you have slept with her? If this kind of trouble could never happen to you in America, I would advise you to stay there. Thai girls will always quarrel and leave you for something like this, except if they are desperate for money. But 8 and 9's usually aren't that desperate.
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Devils Den. A bad joke
Good evening,
This is a short report from a total newbie in Thailand. After great time in Bangkok and a wonderful start of my short time here in Pattaya, reports will come, I feel I have to share a truly bad experience from D D.
I went there early evening, talked to the guy I guess is in some kind of charge. From my list of girls, from their website, he could offer two. I said fine, and they arrived rather promptly at my doorstep.
Bad vibes from the very first minute. Cold, looking away, no signs of interest in me at all.
I decided to buy them a drink in the very nice bar at the hotel, hoping it would do some good. Did not.
In the room they just sat next to me, almost like dead fish.
Filled the jacuzzi, girls joined me in the tub, rather reluctantly, and then just sat there splashing a little water over themselves.
Then to bed, and now they started to act, like robots, as far from G F E You can imagine.
Finally they made me come and soon thereafter I asked them to leave. 75 minutes before times up.
Girls names are Sarah and Gik.
I guess my expectations were all wrong. Some guys might like this, I guess. A warning though, for the ones who like me is looking for more than the pure mechanical aspect of P4P.
But, so far 3-1 in terms of great experiences here I P.
Reports will follow
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Good start in Pattaya
I have just written my very first report here, a negative one re Devils Den. Here comes some good ones from my first 2 days ever in P.
Arrived yesterday and 2 hours later I found a beautiful girl at the bar Billabong, Soi L K Metro. I sat down and had a good meal, during which she demonstrated tons of affection and great attitude. My first choice was made, and we walked back to my hotel (10 minutes of continuous nice time).
Great foreplay, totally, totally GFE. She said she was new here and I was her first customer. I almost believe her!
Great sex, came in her beautiful mouth, BB. Likely to repeat. Sorry, forgot her name.
This all happened early in the evening, so later on I entered WS for the first time. Went into many go go places, some better than others, but to me, most of the girls in all places looked bored or uninterested to sell themselves. One exception! In the go go called Naughty Girls, in Soi Diamond, I saw Lek, number 39. Toatally different than what I had seen elsewhere. Smiling, laughing, joking, and looking good (spinner type). We had real fun there for awhile, and I decided to take my chances and barfine a go go girl, against the odds, according to many reports here.
We took a taxi to my hotel and the fun begN as soon as I had closed the door. Not as GFE as the bargirl described above, but really nice and outstanding boom boom. Far better than expected from a go go girl.
Woke up happy and in good shape. Decided to take a look at Soi 6 in early afternoon. Got to Saigon Bar around 1pm, just as they got started. Some young mamasan type talked to me and recommended a certain girl, supposed to be their best. I saw another one, looking more to my taste, and asked about her. Got a strange response and when I sais I would like to talk to her, the mamasan type losy her positive attitude completely. Never understood why. The girl I wanted to see came up to me and sent positive vibes immediately. We went inside, ordered a drink and she started kissing me in a very deep and nice way. Decision made, upstairs, room OK.
The girl, Gib, was amasing. Very straightforward sex, but so good, eben oral skills were fine. Tiny girl, tight and with lovely natural tits.
A great start for a newbie in Pattaya.
Too bad the D D experience reported below disturbed the great feeling, but I will forget it soon and continue tomorrow.
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Gik from DD'S
Yeah your right Gil is definitely a starfish. I did an incall with her and Bang. She is cute as he'll but very mechanical. Thank God for Bang who was great.
Beaverhunter
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[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1123930]LOL I think a username change is in order.[/QUOTE]L. L.
I won't go over your post but I can see what's your problem no one including me is going to change the way you do things even if you are a nice guy. See being somewhat young and handsome doesn't really make much of a difference here that is why guys are constantly complaining that Pattaya is full of fat overweigh losers. But them or we get it on whenever the sun wants to rise.
Like a few of my friends they come here just like you and they have all these standards from the west and need their expectation met and when it doesn't work out they don't have the patients to deal or reinvent themselves while being here so they complain and go home unhappy. Like many we have a fantasy to be with 8, 9.10's but in reality majority of us would be lucky to even get a 6's, at home (speaking for myself) but we think by flying here it would be different the difference here is you got to hurt for one with the limited amount of time you have and then still pay for it! Please don't for a minute think it is going to be free or cheap? Even if you stay at a 5 star hotel, etc. You look like the rest of us regardless of how old and cheap we are. We are all view as a ATM! Only difference is how much each of us can dispense?
Relax, but if you want to stay home nothing personal be my guest just more meat for the rest of us living here.
Enjoy and good lucky but changing your handle isn't going to change a thing. You can dress it up but it won't change who you are and how you go about finding pussy?
LBM
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Bill Goates,
Sorry for your experience and I'm in no way defending D. D. Since I haven't been there in a number of months but have a good friend that partakes only in D. D. As a V. I. P.
But since I think October of last year they have lost a number of their top girls who had worked at D. D. For a number of years they are now gone for whatever reasons and don't look like they are returning soon. Bang as you mentioned has been there for a while but Sarah hired late last year. Not only for D. D. It is not easy finding girls who can fill the job required of them for a place like D. D. And turnovers are always a reality. I know I miss my regular plus sometimes easy come easy go. Go luck with the rest of your trip?
LBM
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[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124303]I have just written my very first report here, a negative one re Devils Den. Here comes some good ones from my first 2 days ever in P.
Woke up happy and in good shape. Decided to take a look at Soi 6 in early afternoon. Got to Saigon Bar around 1pm, just as they got started. Some young mamasan type talked to me and recommended a certain girl, supposed to be their best. I saw another one, looking more to my taste, and asked about her. Got a strange response and when I sais I would like to talk to her, the mamasan type losy her positive attitude completely. Never understood why. The girl I wanted to see came up to me and sent positive vibes immediately. We went inside, ordered a drink and she started kissing me in a very deep and nice way. Decision made, upstairs, room OK. [/QUOTE]Mamasans may like or dislike some of the girls. In particular young mamasans may dislike girls who are too successful or don't show enough respect. Old mamasanas are more like mothers or older sisters. (Well that's what some girls told me). Personaly I prefer to make my own choice based on my own vibes perceptions.
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Part 1: Big Trouble in Thailand
Last night I arrived at the disco about 1 a.m. and ran into a guy who I had met on Soi 6 the night before. We stood together drinking a beer and admiring the women. I had two picked out in my head. Right after I had told him that I didn't know which one to approach, one approached him. She gave him the classic line, "My friend likes you." I butted in with, "Oh yeah. And HIS friend likes you!" He asked who her friend was and she pointed back at the table which she had come from. We turned around to look but there was nobody there. We all started laughing. Apparently she had just taken off to go to the bathroom. When the friend got back from the toilet we were invited over to the table.
They had a bottle of Remy Martin and plenty of cash in hand. His girl was talking about how she has a car and a house that she paid 1. 3 million baht for. My girl said that she actually lived and worked legitimately in Western Europe. All of a sudden more people showed up. There were two more Thai girls, a young white guy, and a black girl. And guess fucking what. The black girl was from my city in the USA. What are the chances of that? The white guy was actually married to one of the Thai girls.
The ladies offered me and my wingman drinks, then they call the waitress over and with thousands of baht in their hands order another bottle. I told him that it would be interesting to see where this goes. My friend said that it had been a while since he drank and could not handle much alcohol. But they were pushing drinks on him. We took many crazy photos during this time.
Fast forward to 3 a.m. and the disco is dying down. The black girl and one of the Thai girls left. The black girl happened to be staying at some apartments that the Thai girl is in charge of and she was just taking her out for fun. The others said they would be going to another disco and asked us to join them. Everyone walked out of the club with their glasses and the girls took the rest of the bottle of liquor. As soon as we got outside they decided to sit at a bar directly in front of the disco and order a mixed drink for everyone. I assumed it was Remy again, but since I had been drinking mine on the rocks before and this was mixed with Pepsi I was not sure.
We sat and talked shit for a while then went to their cars. Me and my girl rode with the white guy and his wife and my new wingman rode with his girl. When we got inside the disco the guy showed us to a seated area with couches. The girls ordered drinks and asked us what we wanted, but we were finished. When my girl tried to pay for her drink I took the money back from the waiter and gave it back to her. That one was on me since she had been treating me well for the past couple of hours. The girls finished their drinks and it was time to go. That is when the drama ensued.
We went outside to go to the car. The white guy's wife was sloppy drunk. A guy passed by and she must have said something to him that offended him. He said something back. All of a sudden the white guy starts cursing him out. I couldn't pick up where the guy was from. Everyone thought he was Arab. All I kept hearing was the word problema. So I tried speaking to him in Portuguese and Spanish but he was not responding to any of it. All I saw was the white guy come around and knock the shit out of him. Later, come to find out the guy had grabbed the front of his shirt and ripped the part where the buttons are.
I grabbed the guy in a bear hug and told him to just get the hell out of there because the odds were against him and he didn't want trouble. I finally was able to force him down the escalator. Now the whole thing is heated. The girls are yapping back and forth in Thai. I felt like I was in the middle of a Thai soap opera. The guy must have been a glutton for punishment because he came right back up trying to start shit again. I grabbed him again and told him to just leave. Well my wingman's girl decided she wanted to get into the action. She swung her purse around me in order to hit the guy but ended up hitting me dead in the mouth giving me a fat lip. Just then security and the police rushed the scene. And they got some hits in!
I was trying to get my group to get the hell out of there but there is something about these Thai women that they just won't drop the issue. Finally we were in the car pulling off and my girl was trying to get back out and go fight some more. I had to literally hold her down to stop her from getting out. The white guy was taking us back to my motorbike which was parked near Walking Street. But no. The drama was not over.
While we were driving down Second Road a motorcycle taxi with a girl on the back was on the side of us. He sped just in front of the car, got in front of it, and abruptly stopped for no apparent reason. The white guy slammed on the brakes. We all got out of the car. There were no visible signs of anything. I am actually not even sure that we hit the guy but of course he and the girl were going to act like we did anyway. The girl on the back called the police. The white guy is furiously cursing at the motorbike taxi saying that he did it on purpose. My girl has her arm around the motorbike taxi guy trying to sweet talk him. All of a sudden the girl gets back on the bike and they ride off.
We got back into the car and go the couple of blocks where my bike is parked. Now the white guy and my girl are into it and he is cursing her out. We get out and she is all crying and pissed off. What no one knew is that she had actually slipped the motorbike taxi guy 1000 baht. That was the reason he left. She went on about how the white guy does not understand that in Thailand everything is all about money. If you have a problem you use money to make it go away. She had saved his ass with her own money but he had no idea. Somehow this once-in-an-I-don't-know-how-often chance has gone from sugar to shit.
While we are on the motorbike back to her hotel my girl called up the posse. We made a brief stop for her to get money out of the ATM. After we pulled into the parking lot another one of her friends pulled in after us, then another. Then my wingman arrived with his girl. We started the night off simply just trying to get some pussy. We didn't bargain for all of this. It's 4:30 a.m. And Thai girls are yapping all over the hotel parking lot. My girl is about to check out of the hotel and stay at my wingman's girl's house. Just when I thought it was over my girl dropped a bomb on me. Before we went inside the hotel she told me, "I told you my husband is in Pattaya with me right?" What the fuck?
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Everything closed tonight?
Does anyone know if some bars or go go's keep open tonight in P?
BG
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[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124529]Does anyone know if some bars or go go's keep open tonight in P?
BG[/QUOTE]Chick who just came over said places that are open gave money to the police. And those that are open can not sell alcohol.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1124541]Chick who just came over said places that are open gave money to the police. And those that are open can not sell alcohol.[/QUOTE]Thanks!
BG
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Part 2: If It's Free It's For Me
One girl leaves with her husband or boyfriend who is black and from either France or a Francophone country. The five of us left go up to the room and my girls gets her things together. She throws us several boxes and bars of chocolates from Europe. I partook in a couple of morsels but no one else wanted any. She was having problems getting out of her dress because it tied up in the back so I helped her. She was careful not to let me see anything that I shouldn't have. I laid on the bed until she was ready to go. We went downstairs for her to check out. The one girl who was alone got on her motorbike and rode off. The rest of us got in the car and left.
My girl said that her birthday is coming and she is having too much bad luck. So we needed to stop by the market to get 200 eggs so she could cook them and take them to the temple. That was the damnedest thing I have ever heard but who am I to judge. My wingman asked what happened to the eggs after she took them to the temple. They explained to us that they did not know and it was up to whoever was in charge there. (My wingman's girl was Christian. When I asked, she said it was because her parents were Christian when she was born.) When we got to the market it was 0 dark thirty. She went and ordered the eggs and came back to the car. It took the people at the market about 10 minutes to pack them all up and bring them to us.
Daylight was coming as we headed off to my wingman's girl's house. It was a 2 bedroom rather new house. When we got there the girl who had left the hotel on the motorbike was waiting inside for us. It turns out she is my wingman's girl's cousin. It was about 6:30 a.m. And me and my wingman were too damn tired to be shooting all this shit. I told him that if I was him then I would already be in the girl's bedroom sleeping. It turns out that his girl is an interpreter working with the U.S. Marines at the base in Sattahip as is one of my girls from BKK who stayed with me the past couple of days. I don't know how many there are over there but I have to be careful.
I kept telling my wingman how lucky he was but he didn't see it. He is a young guy and all he could think about was mongering, when for me a woman who has her own money, job, car, motorbike, and house was definitely a keeper and really hard to come by in these parts – despite her having two kids. The ladies started talking about McDonald's. I had been up since noon the previous day and food was the last thing on my mind. But my wingman's girl said that nobody is allowed to be in her house when she isn't there so all five of us piled into her car.
Lo and behold there was no McDonald's in our future. She drove directly to the hotel that my girl had been staying at. Her cousin got on a motorbike and left. (I have no idea where all these motorbikes are coming from, because she had already driven one to the house.) Then she told me to get out. Aww mannn. I opened the door and got out and just stood there. She asked what I was waiting for. I said I didn't want to go anywhere without my woman. They said some things in Thai and my girl got out and came with me. Things were looking up.
We got to my place at 7:30. She asked to take a shower so I gave her a towel. When she came out I went in. When I came out of the bathroom she was in the bed under the cover with no clothes on. I damn near broke my neck trying to get into the bed. The festivities went on from 8 to 9. She said that she needed to leave at 1pm to go take care of some business so I set my alarm.
She told me the whole story between her and her husband and it was not all good. He was 30 years older than her and had knocked some chick up and the baby had died. She still wasn't permanent in Europe yet because it takes 5 years. She didn't want to stay with him but she didn't want to come back to Thailand to live either because she wouldn't make much money. We fell off to sleep and I woke up at 12:45 to her talking to her friend on the phone telling her how to get to my place. She got up, took a shower, and got dressed. She kissed me goodbye and said she would call me later. I told her that she didn't even have my phone number. We exchanged numbers and she left. One hour later I got a call from her phone, but it was her friend calling to get my wingman's number. I don't know how his situation turned out but I was happy overall with how things ended up for me. Sometimes patience is the key.
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[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124529]Does anyone know if some bars or go go's keep open tonight in P?
BG[/QUOTE]I think everything reopens around midnight
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@mister Enternational,
Sounds like a helluva lot of work and drama to get laid once.
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DAM Mr Enternational
Sounds like you were in Sosua not Pattaya.
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'nother Report
This began three nights ago. Somehow ended up at Pump Station. Saw gal, and with 870 baht off we went up stairs. She was really something of a vixen. Little Popper did his job and lasted a good long time. However, this ended up as something of a problem. I mean, she sucked, pulled, spit on, and stretched Little Popper like friggin' taffy. I was pretty happy, but soon realized that Little Popper was not. At the end, Little Popper was in some pain. Looked him over closely, and there were teeth marks and some areas were rubbed pretty raw. Figured if Little Popper began to burn or drip, would take him to the hospital for some anti-bi's ASAP.
However, at least for the present, all with Little Popper is fine. Put on some vaseline and gave 30 hours to rest, but during that time, felt bit of hurt.
Last evening was outside my hotel, figure near midnight. Grabbed two eggs for the 40 baht and this gal walked by me. Was tired, and just wanted someone. Anyone. This gal was half Chinese, half Thai. Most of these half's are darn sexy. Like incredible. That said, this gal was anything but. Would give her face about a four, and she bordering on 200 plus pounds.
Now, I've never had such a large Thai gal. Had a few Americans that large (I think they are all that large now, eh). Never a Thai tho. So, figured bit different experience why not. Besides anyone could do a nine Gogo gal for 4000 baht. Takes a man to do one of these type gals. She wanted 1000 baht. Counteroffered w / 500. She agreed and off we went to my hotel room. Getting her to walk up four flights of steps was rather difficult. So much fat. And in the sack, she played cow girl, but only for perhaps 30 seconds before petering out. She fat and really unhealthy.
So overall terrible lay, but certainly not complaining. Call it a mercy lay. Fat gals need it too, or I guess they do. Gave her a 100 baht tip, and off she went. Was going to take a picture of her, but think I'd be banned from this forum. Most of those viewing her pic would probably throw up. Her stomach too was a complete disaster. Her stomach was not only pure fat, but also very damaged from pregnancy. Thing is, I have friends back in the States, and they married this cute little thing. And ten years later, their wives have have become so wide, they make this gal look a bit slim. Could you imagine married to that -- never.
Today Little Popper was feeling better. It was some kind of Buddhist holiday, so many bars were closed. Decided to walk soi 6, which was near empty and pretty dark. Too many lady boys, but a few gals. Gal offered me "massage" and gave me the blow job sign. How much? 800 baht. OK, let's go.
Gal was the best lay I've had this trip. OK, that something of a lie, cause did not actually ph*k her. But her oral skills were outstanding. BJ, Ball-J, RJ, and everything else. When it was time to come, wanted to do it all over her face. But then she shoved Little Popper in her mouth and sucked real hard. Thing is that after I blew my load deep into her mouth, she then made a big deal out of spitting it all out. What a ding dong.
Women!
Only minus was when it was time to leave, she wanted 1000 baht, since it extra 200 for the room. However, I was going to give her a tip anyway, so gave her the 1000 baht. Picts are only of the soi 6 gal and the room. She 35 years, hot face, has a kid. Stomach was lacking a bit, but her skills more than made up for it.
Damn I hate Pattaya.
--Popper
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Pump Station
[QUOTE=Popper1;1124691]Somehow ended up at Pump Station. Saw gal, and with 870 baht off we went up stairs. She was really something of a vixen. Little Popper did his job and lasted a good long time. However, this ended up as something of a problem. I mean, she sucked, pulled, spit on, and stretched Little Popper like friggin' taffy. I was pretty happy, but soon realized that Little Popper was not. At the end, Little Popper was in some pain. Looked him over closely, and there were teeth marks and some areas were rubbed pretty raw. Figured if Little Popper began to burn or drip, would take him to the hospital for some anti-bi's ASAP.[/QUOTE]Whoever designed that "L" shape bar, with the cut-outs, and the little curtains, should have won the "Designer of the Year" award; pure genius!
Too bad about little popper getting all mangled like that. It sounds like you made the same mistake I did years ago on my first visit to the Pump Station. I picked the best looking gal before we went upstairs. She sucked, twisted, and yanked and I had to stop her, because I still had a week to go in Pattaya, and I didn't want my dick in a cast. I asked for someone with more experience, and in comes some great-grandmother. She sits on the milking stool and within a minute I was finished. The moral here is that you are not going to see her face anyway, just watch the porn, and let grandma do her job.
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[QUOTE=Misteroc; 1124663]@mister Enternational,
Sounds like a helluva lot of work and drama to get laid once. [/QUOTE]That is definitely true. But I like to have some adventures. Just getting laid here doesn't require any effort at all. Only 2 words (Let's Go) and 300 baht. It can get pretty monotonous after so many times.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1124632]a woman who has her own money, job, car, motorbike, and house was definitely a keeper[/QUOTE]True indeed. And universally appreciated. Even in the DC Metro. Gold diggers galore.
Excellent report.
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Warning & Question
Warning, took a girl (Nam) from Beach Road near the Soi 12 intersection. She is slim, pretty, has a wonderful smile, speaks good English and a has great sense of humour. However, in bed she freezers-up to the point where you to have to wrestle her to get any action. I couldn't be bothered so just told her to get dressed and leave. You have been warned.
Question, I always look for girls on Beach Road and always ask for long-time and look to pay Bt. 1,000. On previous trips it has taken me no more than 10 minutes to find a suitable girl who was more than willing to go with me. However, for this trip it was really hard work to find a girl willing to go long-time and then the minimum they were asking was Bt. 1,500 which seems excessive for Beach Road girls. Does anyone have any thoughts as to why?
Anyway, still a great place to go.
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My 3rd day in P
after the bad experience i had with the girls from dd, see report below, i woke up only to become aware of the buddha holiday thing yesterday. for an early afternoon activity, i tried a few places that were all closed, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] incl.
decided to go back to soi 6 and saigon bar, having had a very good one there the day before. they were also closed! walked down the soi, and found a rather cute girl at a bar called lisa's.
went inside, had a drink with her, and she showed only positive signs. after kissing and cuddling with my member for some good 10 minutes, we walked up. surprise! the room was even nicer that at saigon, and they even had aircon in the room, as well as tv, audio system and a little couch. bathroom and shower was in the hall though, but no big deal. met two other naked cuties on the way out from a lovely time showering together with my girl, named joy.
joy was pure joy, excellent bbbj, good kissing, great daty and boom boom in a tight, good looking and good smelling p. why.
so far. 4-1 in really good experiences.
but, what to do in the evening?
walked up and down ws two times, and met 3000 russian couples, but no good looking fl. was getting hungry and wanted good seafood. saw a few places that looked good, but wanted company with a good meal. so, i took my first steps ever on the beach road beach side sidewalk, looking for a nice fl there. took me about two minutes to spot a young, innocent looking girl, very sweet, lovely smile, standing there all alone. i walked up to her and asked her if she was hungry, and wanted to go to dinner with me. she looked a bit surprised by that approach, but admitted that she was hungry and would be happy to join me.
as we sat down and ordered some great seafood, i told her that if we both like each other after dinner, i would like her to join me in my hotel room. her english was ok and we had a good time eating and drinking. yes, this restaurant managed to serve both wine and beer last night. i asked the waiter if they were friends with the police, but he just said "no problem".
lots of great food, mediocre wine and good vibes. she told me she had a bike and would like to drive us to my hotel. she managed to borrow or rent a helmet for me as well.
in the room she was very sweet but also very shy, but all in a very cute kind of way. separate showers and then to bed. not so shy there! her "smoking" was wonderful, not too hard, not too soft. after a while she said that it was her first smoking without condom, because i had such a good heart! thank you!
daty very nice and highly liked by jenny, she was almost in trance after 10 minutes of me eating her lovely p. why. great boom boom, came inside and both had happy smiles on our faces. as far away from dd as it gets!
she wanted to stay, probably for ever, but i told her i always sleep alone, and that she had to go. no problems at all, no arguing or bad mood, just thankful and smiling as we kissed goodby.
not a bad buddha holiday for me!
5-1 to the good ones, after three days in p.
bg
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[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124297]I went there early evening, talked to the guy I guess is in some kind of charge. From my list of girls, from their website, he could offer two. I said fine, and they arrived rather promptly at my doorstep.
Bad vibes from the very first minute. Cold, looking away, no signs of interest in me at all. [/QUOTE]Unusal to get a starfish at DD, If your getting a bad vibe straight away then you should of sent them back right there.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1124734]That is definitely true. But I like to have some adventures. Just getting laid here doesn't require any effort at all. Only 2 words (Let's Go) and 300 baht. It can get pretty monotonous after so many times.[/QUOTE]I was gona say something similar to Misteroc, but true you did have an adventure, 'you know I have husband' haha, only thing you could of ended up locked up In the monkey house for the night, for just trying to be the peacemaker.
How much did she pay you In the morning?
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[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124812]After the bad experience I had with the girls from DD, . So, I took my first steps ever on the beach road beach side sidewalk, looking for a nice FL there. Took me about two minutes to spot a young, innocent looking girl, very sweet, lovely smile, standing there all alone.
Lots of great food, mediocre wine and good vibes. She told me she had a bike and would like to drive us to my hotel. She managed to borrow or rent a helmet for me as well.
In the room she was very sweet but also very shy, but all in a very cute kind of way. Separate showers and then to bed. Not so shy there! Her "smoking" was wonderful, not too hard, not too soft. After a while she said that it was her first smoking without condom, because I had such a good heart! Thank You!
DATY very nice and highly liked by Jenny, she was almost in trance after 10 minutes of me eating her lovely p. Why. Great boom boom, came inside and both had happy smiles on our faces. As far away from DD as it gets! [/QUOTE]Great report. One more man experienced that paying more doesn't guarantee you get a better session and the best things in life are cheaper.
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[QUOTE=Popper1; 1124691]Last evening was outside my hotel, figure near midnight. Grabbed two eggs for the 40 baht and this gal walked by me. Was tired, and just wanted someone. Anyone. This gal was half Chinese, half Thai. Most of these half's are darn sexy. Like incredible. That said, this gal was anything but. Would give her face about a four, and she bordering on 200 plus pounds.
Now, I've never had such a large Thai gal. Had a few Americans that large (I think they are all that large now, eh). Never a Thai tho. So, figured bit different experience why not. Besides anyone could do a nine Gogo gal for 4000 baht. Takes a man to do one of these type gals. She wanted 1000 baht. Counteroffered w / 500. She agreed and off we went to my hotel room. Getting her to walk up four flights of steps was rather difficult. So much fat. And in the sack, she played cow girl, but only for perhaps 30 seconds before petering out. She fat and really unhealthy. [/QUOTE]That is what I'm talking about; adding adventure. He didn't fuck her because he had to, but only because he could. Shit 500 baht. He would have probably blown that on some bullshit anyway.
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[QUOTE=Trantinr; 1124777]Warning, took a girl (Nam) from Beach Road near the Soi 12 intersection. She is slim, pretty, has a wonderful smile, speaks good English and a has great sense of humour. However, in bed she freezers-up to the point where you to have to wrestle her to get any action. I couldn't be bothered so just told her to get dressed and leave. You have been warned.
Question, I always look for girls on Beach Road and always ask for long-time and look to pay Bt. 1,000. On previous trips it has taken me no more than 10 minutes to find a suitable girl who was more than willing to go with me. However, for this trip it was really hard work to find a girl willing to go long-time and then the minimum they were asking was Bt. 1,500 which seems excessive for Beach Road girls. Does anyone have any thoughts as to why?
Anyway, still a great place to go. [/QUOTE]One LT session at 1000B versus three or four ST sessions at 500B is less money in their pockets.
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So far So good!
[QUOTE=Bill Goates; 1124812]Not a bad Buddha holiday for me!
5-1 to the good ones, after three days in P.
BG[/QUOTE]Hi B. G.
Well, for a first timer in L. O. S you are doing OK!
CONGRATULATIONS.
Keep up the good work and ENJOY!
(I allways do!)
Hotman
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Slep Rock aka Lucky
Dude, I would suggest you read the forum 'thoroughly'. It may be too late as you are already well into your trip. But seriuosly, you should have read AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE before your trip. YOu could have gained valuable knowledge about all of your concerns based on other member's contributions to the forum.
Before I travel anywhere, I always do my homework. I want to have as much info in my arsenal as possible. This will save you by giving you foresight as to which course of action to take. When bullshit happens.
IF you are going to be there for a bit longer, read as many pages as you can to gain knowledge. You should know the going rate for walking street, bar girls, go-gos, etc. Then you have the leverage to negotiate. If you meet a girl, sit with her and negotiate. Based on this knowledge. As an American, you can use baseball. If the chick throws you strikes (these are red flags). Consider ditching her. There are TOO many girls out there to stress over one. Besides, use common sense. She is for hire but is giving a potential client (with money) grief? If the girl is throwing strikes, she is taking you for a fool (a newbie) , she is greedy, or maybe she just doesn't want to be with you. In any case, during discussions, if a girl is being difficult (or lets say not very pleasing) she will most likely not be a very good lay. If you are not getting the right vibe. Leave her.
One last thing, don't chase a hooker. You are the customer and you have what she wants. Money. If she is not walking WITH you, thats a problem. I would have stopped and ALLOWED her the opportunity to her walk back to me to find out whats up. If she would not come back, I would have turned and gone the other way. Remember, her sister, cousin, or whoever, is right up the street waiting just for you. You have plenty more fish out there. Move on to the next encounter, play safe, and most of all. HAVE FUN!
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Mr E
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1124133]..... But the whole point to me of coming over is to have an adult-Disneyland type of a good time, not just to fuck a couple of 10s. If that was the only case I definitely would not come this damn far. Colombia is much closer and they, along with Thailand, have the most beautiful women on the planet IMHO.[/QUOTE]
Whats up E! Disneyland for Adults. I like that. I'm on the countdown. Less that a month now. Since you talked me into taking the trip (all that arm twisting - wink). I have a favor to ask - Will you save some pussy for US?
Columbians are FINE (as in beautiful), this is true. However, you forgot about my favorite place.
Thai girls - haven't been there yet. Will tell you next month. Although I have seen some lookers (thanks for the pics guys). Especially from Kain and Rjsss. Again, thanks.
Sorry to hear about your long ass night. Damn bro. You are a nice guy and demonstrated patience. But I would have bailed with all that drama going on. Lucky for you in regards to the fact that you get to spend more time over there than most. Therefore, you can afford to be patient. I'm only going to have 10 days.
Thanks for the report. PL
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More advice to Lucky
Meet up with Bill Goates!
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Mr. Enternational,
Lot of drama and you certainly are one of those night owls. For me that kind of drama pussy or no pussy I would have been out of there in 5 minutes plus I'm in bed by 9pm!
Writing your story! It is a nightmare while being awake. When it comes to you saying she has her own money! I believe I can savely say 99. 999999% that although you refer to her as having her own money she it isn't her's. Screw her for as long as you can but when you get to know her better you will find out that she doesn't have any money! The house and car most likely was purchased by the Farang husband who pay cash for it and legally place it under her name. Their relationship most likely allow her to save some money and she might still be getting a monthly and now she out living it up but there will come a time when the well will start to dry! When she realized the cost to maintain her assets like having to service the car and buy insurance and make repairs. She won't be living it up drinking Remy Martin and will be drinking local whisky and working at a Bar looking for another sugar daddy because many think when they are still young that if they can do it once they can do it again. For some they do get lucky and find that thurder and lightling does strike twice.
You're experience and nothing to worry about when it comes to you since anyone who can venture to the Bush knows the ropes but even for me although interesting I recommend to everyone learn from your story and hit that pussy and when you're done run for the hills and change your cell number. This girl has no money and her friends don't either and if it's free now it won't be later because I've seen it before the whole bunch is trouble!
LBM
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Happy ending in P
After travelling around in the region for 4 weeks, I only had four days to enjoy P. And I did!
Yesterday was my last day here. After 6 encounters in the first three days, scoring 5-1 in terms of truly wonderful time with the locals (only DD let me down, or I had the wrong expectations) , I felt a liitle tired and planned for only 1 last activity.
In a beer bar near WS I saw a slightly older woman, better dressed than the norm, and with a certain style, towards the Hi-so look. Got interested, and asked her if she was the owner or something. She laughed and said that she just was older than most girls. I bought her a drink and we had a really nice conversation, different than the ususal also good, but different. After some 10 minutes of nice talkiing, she informed me, in a low voice, that if I was getting interested I should know that she had her period and could not boom boom.
Good to know.
But having so mu h fun I said I would barfine her Nd take her to dinner nearby just for the fun of it, and then I would continue elswhere. Said and done, good local food in a Soi in the area, very nice dinner, chit chatting with h and other people around. Walked her back, kissed her goodby, nd walked on up WS.
Without any real target, I went in to a few go go places I had not visited before. Same same, boring moves, eyes looking in the mirrors, service staff fighting about seating me in their areas etc.
Until I found a place in Soi 16 called Relaxxx. Looked better at first sight, sat down in the far end, looking up into the face of a very cute tiny girl dancing, full of energy, and 100% focus on me. I showed her I liked it, and soon she was on my lap. Her focus did not change, it was me, but now with full body contact. Somehow, suddenly another nice and warm one showed up from my left hand side, and just added to the ongoing heavy fondling, without saying a word. All smiles, great bodies, DFK and the lot for at least 30 minutes (and only one LD each!). Was looking good, but even more, I totally surrendered. Paid the bill, BF and away in a tuk tuk taxi.
I was a bit optimistic as we got into my room, but you never know with the go go girls, I have been told here at ISG. I did not need to worry. I put on some rock music, and in seconds they were continuing the party we had at their site. Only now even more erotic, dancing, stripping, one p. Why in my face, the other girl going for my fly, etc etc. Wow!
The water is running in the jacuzzi, and after brief showering we are having wet orgies in the tub, lots of fun and laughter, but more towards heavy erotic play. When I feel it is about time to move on, we dry each other up, constantly rubbing sensitive parts, and ends in the big bed.
After lots of DATY and outstanding BBBJ from the little spinner type, I f. Cked them one at a time, in all ways I am capable of. Finishing deep inside the more normal built kitten named Miao. The spinner called herself Kat.
Wow, what a way to end my short time here in P. I thought.
But, it was only 10. 30 when I kissed them goodby, and after 30 minutes contemplating, I decided to go and look for my girl at Billabong, who I met my first night here. Walked up to soi LK Metro, only to find that she was gone with another customer. OK, what now. Took a tuk to Soi 8, walked all the way down to Beach Road without seeing anything interesting. Took a new tuk to WS and started all over. Did not see anything that caught my eyes on the street itself, until suddenly this blonded little thai girl, dressed in a silk kimono comes running passed me and enters aplace I think is called Niu's go go, or something similar. My gut reaction was to follow her inside, I did, and behind the curtain she stood kind of waiting for me. Gave me a big kiss while taking of the silk! Welcome! She was totally wild, I had my fingers inside of her within less than one minute. She was constantly smiling, laughing, uttering words not to be understood, especially when I was all ove her. This all happens before even I have got a drink! Bought one for the two of us and sat down. She could not sit still, jumping, dancing, directing my hNds to wherever she wanted me to do her lovely body. Yes, lovely body. Man made boobs, but of the very best kind (it ususally turns me off, but not these).
After five minutes of non stop erotic play, I said the word boom boom, and she went up the roof of happiness, cried out loud, for everyone to hear, so happy. Her name is Dao, or similar.
They had heir own rooms next door, which at this hour suited me fine. Paid 1600 plus 400 for room, and off we went. Decent room. She is still happy / crazy / totally wild. After some DATY she shows good expertise in the art of smoking, and the fu. Ing is just as great. After some great time in different fashions, she withdraws, pulls off the condom and says: come in mouth! OK, I do not mind. Finishing all over her still smiling face.
What a way to finish my short session here in P it is now almost 3 am, I am happy and tired. Tuk tuk home, sleep comes fast. 7-1 to the great moments.
My aim has been, here as well as in BKK, to maximise the fun per hour, within my own budget. It was a true success.
BG
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[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99;1125067]Dude, I would suggest you read the forum 'thoroughly'. It may be too late as you are already well into your trip. But seriuosly, you should have read AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE before your trip. YOu could have gained valuable knowledge about all of your concerns based on other member's contributions to the forum.[/QUOTE]I have read literally thousands, and perhaps even tens of thousands of pages from this forum. Began reading it figure 1997 or so back in the days of Atta. Nearly went to Bali last Christmas, and skimmed / took notes on about some 2000 pages. When I leave, my notes are all categorized and ready.
Here I spent hours researching details where to go, eat, play, attractions etc ... and these morons waste bandwidth. I really get [b]pissed off[/b] With the usual type question of "Duhhhhhh, can I find any girl in Pattaya? Where are dey?"
Even this plane ride going to the BKK airport, met two morons on the plane. From somewhere down South, deep Red State. They wanted to go Bangkok to "git laid". I've been doing BKK since 1999, and I told them specifically where to stay, where to go, and a few rules. When we were getting our luggage, I asked them "You recall the hotel I recommended you stay at and where all the girls are, right?" They looked at me, completely blank and said "Hold on and let me get a pencil and paper."
At that time got my luggage and just left.
--Popper
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Traveling
A nice disco girl who I have known about 6 months made the mistake of taking me to the beach with her friends last week. One of her friends is a superstar and makes my heart skip a beat. My girl went back home to BKK on the 13th and since I have been trying to fuck her friend but she keeps giving me the run around because she doesn't want to do her friend like that. Yesterday I saw her in the disco and told her that while she keeps bullshitting I wanted her to go to Chiang Mai with me Monday. She sent me a text this morning saying,"U will pay everything for me? Ticket, place, food. And I need 1000 everyday cash, if you can. I will go with you, if can't. Better you go enjoy alone smile" Ticket 3000 baht, girl for 3 days 3000 baht. There was some hard contemplation for a minute but then I looked up some tours and decided I would go alone. Plus I would like to sample some of the local delicacies and I'm supposed to meet a couple of chicks from TLL.
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The Accommodator
Last night I ran into the married chick at the disco again. I wanted to give her space though. At 3am I took a thick 23 year old home. She had some of the biggest tits I have seen in Asia. I wanted to take a picture for D Cups but she didn't let me. She said she had never taken pictures before. Half of the time we spent bickering about shit she has never done before. Then when it did come time for me to tear that ass up I was into in an hour before she started complaining about hurting. So I had to try to go to sleep with a hard dick and hope for better luck or to cum much sooner in the morning.
At 6am the married girl called and said she wanted to come over. The way she put it down the other day I didn't hesitate and told her to come. I woke the other girl up with 500 baht in my hand and told her to hit the road. She asked if I had another girl coming. I said yep. Before she arrived she called to see if I wanted anything from the store. I told her no but she brought a bunch of snacks and drinks anyway. All I was thinking about was fucking and sleeping. I don't know why these broads keep staying up until daylight. I have gotten too old for that.
She loves doing oral but doesn't like having it done. I told her to just give what I had in store a try. She reluctantly gave in. But later it was a very good experience for her. I brought out The Accommodator. [url]http://www.amazon.com/California-Exotics-Accommodator-Oral-Stimulator/dp/B002JINP1C[/url]
I don't know if you gents know about this toy but a friend of mine hooked me to it 4 years ago. It is a dick strapped to your chin. Of course you look like a jacka$s/moron with it on and you feel like one the first couple of times, but after that you are ready to walk down the street with one on! The results are indescribable.
So after session, sleeping all day, and another session her friend picked her up to go pack or something. They are picking me up later to go to the market and bowling. This morning her friend told me never to worry about money with them. They don't mind paying for things. If I am cool with them, then they are cool with me. The friend was supposed to be on vacation but I guess they called her to come in tomorrow because that ship is coming. She was supposed to take my girl to the airport in BKK in the morning. She asked me if I would take her car and drive my girl to BKK tomorrow but I told her that I have to go to the airport tomorrow afternoon my damn self to go to Chiang Mai. So she will just have to take a taxi. I love this fuckin place.
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[QUOTE=Popper1; 1124691]Now, I've never had such a large Thai gal. Had a few Americans that large (I think they are all that large now, eh). Never a Thai tho. So, figured bit different experience why not. Besides anyone could do a nine Gogo gal for 4000 baht. Takes a man to do one of these type gals. She wanted 1000 baht. Counteroffered w / 500. She agreed and off we went to my hotel room. Getting her to walk up four flights of steps was rather difficult. So much fat. And in the sack, she played cow girl, but only for perhaps 30 seconds before petering out. She fat and really unhealthy.
So overall terrible lay, but certainly not complaining. Call it a mercy lay. Fat gals need it too, or I guess they do. Gave her a 100 baht tip, and off she went. Was going to take a picture of her, but think I'd be banned from this forum. Most of those viewing her pic would probably throw up. Her stomach too was a complete disaster. Her stomach was not only pure fat, but also very damaged from pregnancy. [/QUOTE]You shouldn't have to pay for crap like that! If you have a fetish for that type of thing and can't get it for free, I understand. But if you were desperate and paid for something that has zero market value, then you've done the mongering scene no good. Paying money for crap only ruins the market.
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[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99; 1125067]Dude, I would suggest you read the forum 'thoroughly'. It may be too late as you are already well into your trip. But seriuosly, you should have read AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE before your trip. YOu could have gained valuable knowledge about all of your concerns based on other member's contributions to the forum.
Before I travel anywhere, I always do my homework. I want to have as much info in my arsenal as possible. This will save you by giving you foresight as to which course of action to take. When bullshit happens.
IF you are going to be there for a bit longer, read as many pages as you can to gain knowledge. You should know the going rate for walking street, bar girls, go-gos, etc. Then you have the leverage to negotiate. If you meet a girl, sit with her and negotiate. Based on this knowledge. As an American, you can use baseball. If the chick throws you strikes (these are red flags). Consider ditching her. There are TOO many girls out there to stress over one. Besides, use common sense. She is for hire but is giving a potential client (with money) grief? If the girl is throwing strikes, she is taking you for a fool (a newbie) , she is greedy, or maybe she just doesn't want to be with you. In any case, during discussions, if a girl is being difficult (or lets say not very pleasing) she will most likely not be a very good lay. If you are not getting the right vibe. Leave her.
One last thing, don't chase a hooker. You are the customer and you have what she wants. Money. If she is not walking WITH you, thats a problem. I would have stopped and ALLOWED her the opportunity to her walk back to me to find out whats up. If she would not come back, I would have turned and gone the other way. Remember, her sister, cousin, or whoever, is right up the street waiting just for you. You have plenty more fish out there. Move on to the next encounter, play safe, and most of all. HAVE FUN! [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Popper1; 1125194]I have read literally thousands, and perhaps even tens of thousands of pages from this forum. Began reading it figure 1997 or so back in the days of Atta. Nearly went to Bali last Christmas, and skimmed / took notes on about some 2000 pages. When I leave, my notes are all categorized and ready.
Here I spent hours researching details where to go, eat, play, attractions etc. And these morons waste bandwidth. I really get [b]pissed off[/b] With the usual type question of "Duhhhhhh, can I find any girl in Pattaya? Where are dey?"
Even this plane ride going to the BKK airport, met two morons on the plane. From somewhere down South, deep Red State. They wanted to go Bangkok to "git laid". I've been doing BKK since 1999, and I told them specifically where to stay, where to go, and a few rules. When we were getting our luggage, I asked them "You recall the hotel I recommended you stay at and where all the girls are, right?" They looked at me, completely blank and said "Hold on and let me get a pencil and paper."
At that time got my luggage and just left.
-Popper[/QUOTE]Exactly, totally agree, I wish I'd had forums like this before I first went to LOS, same for me, when I go to a new place I make sure I've done my research, so I can have a great time, but some guys are either to lazy, or to stupid, 'where can I get laid In BKK? ' There Is just NO hope for some guys.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1125132]Mr. Enternational,
Lot of drama and you certainly are one of those night owls. For me that kind of drama pussy or no pussy I would have been out of there in 5 minutes plus I'm in bed by 9pm!
Writing your story! It is a nightmare while being awake. When it comes to you saying she has her own money! I believe I can savely say 99. 999999% that although you refer to her as having her own money she it isn't her's. Screw her for as long as you can but when you get to know her better you will find out that she doesn't have any money! The house and car most likely was purchased by the Farang husband who pay cash for it and legally place it under her name. Their relationship most likely allow her to save some money and she might still be getting a monthly and now she out living it up but there will come a time when the well will start to dry! When she realized the cost to maintain her assets like having to service the car and buy insurance and make repairs. She won't be living it up drinking Remy Martin and will be drinking local whisky and working at a Bar looking for another sugar daddy because many think when they are still young that if they can do it once they can do it again. For some they do get lucky and find that thurder and lightling does strike twice.
You're experience and nothing to worry about when it comes to you since anyone who can venture to the Bush knows the ropes but even for me although interesting I recommend to everyone learn from your story and hit that pussy and when you're done run for the hills and change your cell number. This girl has no money and her friends don't either and if it's free now it won't be later because I've seen it before the whole bunch is trouble!
LBM[/QUOTE]I disagree with you, one of the great things about LOS Is you can meet married / sponsored ladies like this, If they like you then you can experience a lot of fun, for them It's a power thing, hubby / sponsor Is back home, and they can spend his baht on partying and fucking a guy they like. If a guy just wants to get laid then sure they wouldn't bother.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1125239]She loves doing oral but doesn't like having it done. I told her to just give what I had in store a try. She reluctantly gave in. But later it was a very good experience for her. I brought out The Accommodator.
[url]http://www.amazon.com/California-Exotics-Accommodator-Oral-Stimulator/dp/B002JINP1C[/url][/QUOTE]Nice report Mr. E,
I noticed in the picture there was a snorkel nearby. I was wondering if you used that the same time you used The Accommodator? Or do you swap out devices as the mood changes?
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An afternoon in Pattaya
I had told my friend in a massage shop in one of the soi 13s that I would visit her, and I was being a bit slow, so I got a couple of reminder sms's. Eventually I arrived, she looked up and saw me and smiled, she put out her hand and I took her fingers in mine and we went upstairs hand in hand, both smiling. She told me how she's been, and we talk about small things in our lives while she gives me a good massage. I feel very close to her, she's not trying to be sexy or coy. After a while I turn over and she keeps getting distracted by my balls. Before long she's masturbating me with an intent expression while I gaze into her eyes or play with her fingers or shove my hands under her clothes. When my cum almost hits the ceiling she laughs out loud and keeps giggling while cleaning up. I give her the usual 500 for massage and HJ and we make a movie date for her day off.
There was a pair of tasty morsels at the bar where I was staying, but neither of them was a sure thing so I thought it would be a good idea to go do a short-time first. I went by soi 6 and my favourite ladyboy mamasan alerted me that he had gotten new stocks in. I immediately spotted a little Buriram special and snapped her up. She got the good-luck poking-the-finger ceremony from a couple of other girls on the way up, while one of them was glaring at me."She lady you?" asked my new girl. Indeed, it's true, I used to go straight for that one before she started slathering on the war paint.
The new one was absolutely perfect spinner material, but I was rather tired and preoccupied, so I didn't really make the most of it. I enjoyed her the way you enjoy a good espresso (also short and dark!) without really thinking about it. But still you know it hits the spot and resonates in the back of your mind. 300 + 700.
I went back to the bar with the tasty morsels, and one took care of me very cutely and I whipped her at connect-four (which is a good thing, considering the Koh Chang report that I'll post in "Other Areas" later) , but it turned out that I was too tired to attempt her.
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[QUOTE=Run Mann;1124913]One LT session at 1000B versus three or four ST sessions at 500B is less money in their pockets.[/QUOTE]Not to mention that dealing with some tiresome foreigner for 12+ hours straight is a lot more trouble and annoyance than three to four 50 minute bangs.
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Songkran
Hi.
I was wondering how is it during songkran in Pattaya. Are most pretty girls going back home to Isaan or elsewhere?
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[QUOTE=Jerboa;1125415]I disagree with you, one of the great things about LOS Is you can meet married / sponsored ladies like this, If they like you then you can experience a lot of fun, for them It's a power thing, hubby / sponsor Is back home, and they can spend his baht on partying and fucking a guy they like. If a guy just wants to get laid then sure they wouldn't bother.[/QUOTE]Jerboa,
In all due respect to you disagreeing but you missed the whole point as to what I was trying to get across to you and others. No one is saying you can't meet a Thai women that is being sponsor and having fun. I'm looking at my post and I can't seem to find where I had said that? If you go back and read Mr. E story you will see from his remarks that the sponsor or husband and Thai lady are having trouble and I don't disagree and you should also note that I said to him and others to hit that pussy and take off. My comments was about her not having " her own money " which based on your response you really agree since a person being sponsor mean as least to me that it's not her own money?
In summary, meet a married sponsor women happy or unhappy and have as much fun as you want and can but in the end like you said " she is being sponsor " and unhappy and having problems and most likely is looking ahead when the sponsor comes to senses and realized it's over. Most likely not? Since he's running around himself and got another Thai pregnant but got lucky cause she lost the baby so lady #1 gravy train is still coming? But she is Thai and know deep down inside the guy is a old butterfly and like most Thai ladies know there is always another Thai trying to nab their old man and take what they got. She is out having fun but also looking ahead!
I myself, if a Thai lady is horny want some fun and need a shoulder to cry on and need a good listener, LBM will lend a helping hand but in when I'm done I'm heading for the hills. When in LOS do what the Thai men do they will respect you more?
You have the right to disagree but make sure you know once what you are disagreeing with?
LBM
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1125872]Jerboa,
You have the right to disagree but make sure you know once what you are disagreeing with?
LBM[/QUOTE]Fair enough, I understand your post now, I shouldn't post when I'm tired LOL.
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Russians in Pattaya
Hi guys.
I wonder about mongering in Pattaya with Russian. Are there any hot with big breasts? How much for a hour session or how much do you pay or one ejaculation?
Is there any website you can check out the girls?
How much is the comparance with thai gogo girks? I have seen some pic of gogo girls in Thailand but they arent not even average or soso. Maybe I didn't get random pictures, for those who have been there is the girls hot thai or Russian doesn't matter.
Do they give OWC.
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[QUOTE=Shanjahan; 1126205]Hi guys.
I wonder about mongering in Pattaya with Russian. Are there any hot with big breasts? How much for a hour session or how much do you pay or one ejaculation?
Is there any website you can check out the girls?
How much is the comparance with thai gogo girks? I have seen some pic of gogo girls in Thailand but they arent not even average or soso. Maybe I didn't get random pictures, for those who have been there is the girls hot thai or Russian doesn't matter.
Do they give OWC. [/QUOTE]
When you go to a steak resturaunt, do you order fish? If you're that infatuated, sounds like you need to go to Russia! I checked out the Russion go-go on Walking Street; wasn't impressed with the bar, the drink prices, or the girls. And, I don't think any could be had in P4P, just high-end lap dances.
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[QUOTE=Shanjahan; 1126205]Hi guys.
I wonder about mongering in Pattaya with Russian. Are there any hot with big breasts? How much for a hour session or how much do you pay or one ejaculation?
Is there any website you can check out the girls?
How much is the comparance with thai gogo girks? I have seen some pic of gogo girls in Thailand but they arent not even average or soso. Maybe I didn't get random pictures, for those who have been there is the girls hot thai or Russian doesn't matter.
Do they give OWC. [/QUOTE]There are no websites of Russian girls In LOS afaik. But you will find some so called 'Russian' women In Pattaya, most you see on WS and around the Arab quarter are Uzbekis, their clients are mostly arab guys.
Will you only be looking for Russian women? Read this thread for more Info. [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3187-Foreign-Sex-Workers-in-Thailand[/url]
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1126213]When you go to a steak resturaunt, do you order fish? If you're that infatuated, sounds like you need to go to Russia! I checked out the Russion go-go on Walking Street; wasn't impressed with the bar, the drink prices, or the girls. And, I don't think any could be had in P4P, just high-end lap dances.[/QUOTE]Don't get these Euro pole dancers mixed up with the Uzbekis, these girls are there just to make cash from tips, dances and drinks, I was told by one of the Ukrainian dancers after I got to know her that they were forbidden from hooking.
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[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1126213]When you go to a steak resturaunt, do you order fish? If you're that infatuated, sounds like you need to go to Russia! I checked out the Russion go-go on Walking Street; wasn't impressed with the bar, the drink prices, or the girls. And, I don't think any could be had in P4P, just high-end lap dances.[/QUOTE]Well. If you went to the steak restaurant for 3 meals a day for a month or so, you might eventually want to try the fish, no? And if fish is on the menu, then you don't necessarily need to go to a seafood restaurant. Tho of course quality would almost surely be better there. Regardless, everything I've heard is that those Russian go-gos are total scams designed to prey on unsuspecting first-timers. They're definitely not after repeat business. No idea about the ones out on Walking Street.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck;1125375]You shouldn't have to pay for crap like that! If you have a fetish for that type of thing and can't get it for free, I understand. But if you were desperate and paid for something that has zero market value, then you've done the mongering scene no good. Paying money for crap only ruins the market.[/QUOTE]
The word is [b]Sex Worker[/b]. Note the second word: [b]Worker[/b]. Personally I like all types of women. Large and small tits. Large and small butt. Older (had a 50 year old last week). Younger gals too (had a 19 year old recently). Like um pretty, ugly, tall, short, skinny, and yes, even [b]FAT[/b], and anything and everything else. Variety and all that. And last I heard, [b]all of them have to eat [/b] ... especially the fat ones!
Never asked for your approval on my taste of women, and don't plan on doing so either.
Here is one I recently had. Bit round. Curvy. Has word [b]"Fuck"[/b] on one of her cheeks, and [b]"Me"[/b] on the other.
--Popper
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1125239]I brought out The Accommodator.
[url]http://www.amazon.com/California-Exotics-Accommodator-Oral-Stimulator/dp/B002JINP1C[/url]
I don't know if you gents know about this toy but a friend of mine hooked me to it 4 years ago. It is a dick strapped to your chin. Of course you look like a jacka$s / moron with it on and you feel like one the first couple of times, but after that you are ready to walk down the street with one on! The results are indescribable. [/QUOTE]Interesting Device, I am not sure I will want to try that but, the mental picture of me out and about with that thing while walking around Bangkok gave me a nice chuckle.
I am a caveman when it comes to DATY, I usually only use my fingers and it's already quite some gymnastics (Same hand: 2 in the pussy and 1 in the Ass). I guess whatever works for you is good.
I wouldn't mind the contact of the Big Titted girl. Hehehe
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[QUOTE=Popper1;1126312]Never asked for your approval on my taste of women, and don't plan on doing so either.[/QUOTE]I think it is good that we don't all have the same taste in women.
Popper1, Damn, you are a bigger horndog than I am LOL
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Shanjahan
I am now in Pattaya a little update for you, I have stay now 6 days I fuckt 1 thai and 4 Russian girl and 1 swedish girl free, but you must now Russian and you are good looking guy so it will be no problem, now is high season for russia people, a lot of them come for fun so is a good time now. They a lot now in mix nightclub and the new nightclub Lima Lima on underground mixx, if you are there you will see it.
If you are casanova so you will get free and if you are professional hunter so you know the game and if you are farang ding dong everone play with you.
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Thanks for all your advice guys. It's been getting better, but not where I want it to be yet. I'll update soon.
For now, aside from Mixx, what are good places to find Russian girls?
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Also, any advice for Russian girls. How much to pay, what to expect, etc? Also if I want anal, do I politely ask ahead of time or wait till were in bed?
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[QUOTE=Popper1; 1126312]Here is one I recently had. Bit round. Curvy. Has word [b]"Fuck"[/b] On one of her cheeks, and [b]"Me"[/b] On the other.
-Popper[/QUOTE]WHAT a find! Loved the pics. Man! I'd have paid her extra to get her to bend over for one of those pics. . . . You're not holding out on us are you?
Yeah, she's plump. . . Reminds me of the kitchen helper in a Soi 7/1 bar a couple of years ago. I was drawn to her smile and her attitude. She was plump. Dressed up well, had amazing moves on the dance floor and one of the best fucks I ever had. I paid her sex worker money and she loved it. Was that a promotion I wonder? But, then she got married and settled down.
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[QUOTE=Popper1; 1126312]Here is one I recently had. Bit round. Curvy. Has word [b]"Fuck"[/b] On one of her cheeks, and [b]"Me"[/b] On the other.
-Popper[/QUOTE]Totally love the curver girls. Like this one. But they are rare in Bangkok and Pattaya. Where did you find this one?
Thank you for the post.
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[QUOTE=Popper1; 1126312]The word is [b]Sex Worker[/b]. Note the second word: [b]Worker[/b]. Personally I like all types of women. Large and small tits. Large and small butt. Older (had a 50 year old last week). Younger gals too (had a 19 year old recently). Like um pretty, ugly, tall, short, skinny, and yes, even [b]FAT[/b], and anything and everything else. Variety and all that. And last I heard, [b]all of them have to eat [/b]. Especially the fat ones!
Never asked for your approval on my taste of women, and don't plan on doing so either.
Here is one I recently had. Bit round. Curvy. Has word [b]"Fuck"[/b] On one of her cheeks, and [b]"Me"[/b] On the other.
-Popper[/QUOTE]I'm with you. I'm here to enjoy myself, not impress otjers. I try to fuck them all.
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More on the jet ski scams
Was in AC last week and spoke to two girls that told me they went to Pattaya with their boyfriends. BOTH got scammed. Has anyone ever rented a jet ski without getting shook down?
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[QUOTE=Edward M;1127377]Was in AC last week and spoke to two girls that told me they went to Pattaya with their boyfriends. BOTH got scammed. Has anyone ever rented a jet ski without getting shook down?[/QUOTE]I think I read some where that this might have happened in 1996.
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[QUOTE=Billy Baht;1127221]I'm with you. I'm here to enjoy myself, not impress otjers. I try to fuck them all.[/QUOTE]Yep, sometimes opportunities present themselves and it's best to take them even if the presenter might not be the best looking. They are normally the best fucks.
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[QUOTE=Edward M;1127377]Was in AC last week and spoke to two girls that told me they went to Pattaya with their boyfriends. BOTH got scammed. Has anyone ever rented a jet ski without getting shook down?[/QUOTE]I believe from what I have read and heard is that the operators particularly in front of Mikes shopping Center operating are the biggest scam artist and have the most complaints. I read a report in December that they even have a cop in the scam where as he comes and makes a settlement and he gets a cut!
Wish I had a few names and places to recommend that might be on the up and up but I don't sorry!
LBM
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Pics maybe?
[QUOTE=Edward M;1127377]Has anyone ever rented a jet ski without getting shook down?[/QUOTE]I've never rented a jetski, but would it help to make some pictures of the thing before the ride? Especially of scratches and marks or any other damages, even small ones?
Just an idea.
Cheers!
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Gad and Nid at Baccara
I had been emailing my old girlfriend Gad so we could meet when I got to Pattaya. We planned to meet at Baccara Club where she works. I got in late Wed nite after a L O N G bus ride from Sihanoukville so I just sms her we'll meet tomorrow, then I crashed. Next day she calls and she's really pissed at me but won't say why. Because I silenced my phone so I could sleep? I checked and saw that that she had tried to call me several times that morning. I couldn't understand why she was angry and I asked her why? No answer. Then she hung up on me. WTF?
I started walking down to the club anyway, wondering what's up with her, she was always so nice in the past. Walked in and didn't see Gad anywhere. Thought she was going to stand me up. There's a couple of club guys who point at stools at the stage for me to sit but I opted for a seat against the wall. I like the panoramic view! I also like to cuddle with my potential new girlfriend and spend some time just to see if we like each other. My eyes immediately locked on one particular girl on stage. About 5'6 and a great dancer, she doesn't just do the shuffle. What a gorgeous and toned slim body. We kept smiling at each other through a few songs and then I beckoned her over. Her name is Nid.
We hit it off immediately. About 24, not much English but she appreciated my lame attempts at Thai. We laughed and talked and nudged each other's thighs, gently kissed cheeks and neck and we both want to barfine. We consulted about some boring business details and she went off to change.
Waiting for a girl to change is an eternity, as far as I'm concerned. And I'm starting to get a little nervous about Gad walking in. Next thing I know oh shit there she is! She walks over, puts her arms around me and 'how are yooooo long time no seeee! I was dumbfounded. I fumbled for words and told her how I felt, that I thought she was angry and won't tell me why? I was being honest. But now in the club she was being so sweet to me, and now I'm freaked out because maybe she is playing games with the sudden change in drama? So I told her about Nid, well I had to. She looked a little hurt and disappointed but she didn't yell or scream. She thought we had a date. We sorta smiled at each other and she walked away. I feel like a shit for doing that because she was so friendly before but I don't want to bring a girl with an attitude into a casual sexual encounter. And playing games is even worse.
For anyone who missed the point, I'm very sensitive to women's moods and if she just ain't with it than I just can't get it up. And I don't want to pay 2-3000 baht for a girl who doesn't really like me or has a bad attitude – and then not be able to get hard.
Nid finally appeared smiling and wearing a frumpy cotton dress with a white floral pattern and hair tied back with a clip. I almost didn't recognize her from that sexy dancer in a g string with hair flying a few minutes ago. We left and decided on watching a some muan thai boxing and so we went to that beer bar right by the entrance to walking street where they have boxing at night. We talked and laughed some more and hung out with the older girls behind the bar and discussing the various differences between fucking and making love. Gid sat on a stool right behind me up close and massaged my arms, chest, thighs and legs while I reached down and squeezed those hard leg muscles of hers. I bought the other girls a few drinks we were all having a lot of fun together and watching the fight.
After a while I can feel her breathing harder on my neck and ear and we are both getting very horny pressing our bodies together on the barstools. Finally we left and laughed at the other girls for reminding us to 'be careful'. We walked over to a baht bus to head back to my hotel, and as it made more stops and got more crowded, we teased and pressed each other even closer. We walked to my room with our arms around each other. We walked in and shut the door and started LFK. A few minutes of this and I am totally hard. She says 'I go showa' and I respect her wanting her privacy. She is a lady and in the Asian way she's kinda shy, even with all the flirting. She really was sweet and wanted to make me feel good.
She showers (another eternity) and comes out wrapped in a short towel and I go in and shower in 5 minutes. I'm a little shy too maybe so I come out in a towel but now she is laying on the bed on her left side completely naked with her right leg brought up and over a little and then I saw her huge bare pussy lips. I believe they are the pussy lips I've ever seen. I crawled on the bed and bent down to kiss her ass and pussy and we sat facing each other arms wrapped around each other making out and fingering each other. I laid her down gently on her back and slowly went down on her. Her nipples were so sensitive that she yelped and pushed me away a little if I sucked a little too hard. I positioned myself in front of her and lifted up her ass to feast on that wonderful pussy. I love to eat pussy and I don't like to stop until she is writhing and moaning. With Nid that only took a few minutes but I kept it up for at least 20 minutes. She was gripping my head in her vise grip dancer thighs and pressing my face harder into her pussy with her feet. I was almost gasping for breath until she she finally jerks away from my head laughing and giggling like I am tickling her. She lies down with her knees up and legs spread watching me pop a cap on. I notice a stream of juice (mine or hers?) from each of her pussy lips running down the back of her thighs to her ass. I am so hard and we are both really wet it just glides in. We spent the next 45 min or hour (?) fucking each other's brains out, moaning, yelling and laughing. We finally decided to take a break and sat down on the bed out of breath, sweating and smiling at each other.
Now this is what I love about southeast Asian women. They may be polite, discreet and demure and then become tigers in the bedroom. Unlike western women, they don't have these guilt feelings about sex. If it feels good it's OK. So simple. One American girlfriend I had didn't even want to talk about sex. I told her look, if we're going to be lovers tell me how you want me to please you so I can please you? She said 'well if you don't know I'm certainly not going to tell you. ' But I laugh about it now.
I digress. Oh yes – so anyway I slowly slid into her pussy and hovered over her in missionary position while I let her fuck me by supporting her hips in the air with just her hands and feet on the bed and moving harder and getting me as deep inside her as she could.
She gets a phone message (why didn't I tell her to power off before) and she disengages to see. Her friend is very seeeeck here I am licking and kissing her ass as she reads the message. Oh I just hate it when they do that. I told her I want to go long time and I really want to be with her and want her to stay. She say 'you feeneesh? ' I promise just niknoy more 'I want to come in your pussy, I really like you, kun jun jib, kun di maa etc etc. ' She said OK. Doggie up next for another 10 minutes or so with her jerking and swiveling and grinding her pussy against my dick. Finished in mish as promised with one of the most intense explosions I can remember. Of course I hadn't had sex in ten days – and then it was with myself!
We are both looking down at my dick moving in and out between those glistening pussy lips. She contracts her pussy muscles in the same rhythm of my spasms! Man what a feeling! This is incredible and makes me come even more. What a wonderful girl.
And so I have mixed feelings about the evening. I feel like such a jerk for going out on Gad like that, but her angry mood freaked me out. Sex should be fun and intense like it was with Nid and you shouldn't bring emotional baggage into a session or it just won't be very good. Nid showers again and she texts her friend. I told her if you want to go help your friend go ahead and I will give you something for short time. I don't know if I'll ever see her again because I'm ashamed to show my face now in Baccarra. No BJ and just LFK but she was worth every satang of 2000 baht, her sweet voice, sense of humor, kindness, a real lady in a beautiful body and those marvelous pussy mons.
Stay safe, QH
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[QUOTE=Qiao Han;1127486]I don't know if I'll ever see her again because I'm ashamed to show my face now in Baccarra.[/QUOTE]If GAD is a lady whose services you purchase, then you shouldn't care. This is business.
If on the other hand, you hit it for free, then yes, it could be difficult.
And no, it's not "different", they always try and make guys think that so we always take them. You have the money, you call the shots.
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[QUOTE=Ekspat;1127472]I've never rented a jetski, but would it help to make some pictures of the thing before the ride? Especially of scratches and marks or any other damages, even small ones?[/QUOTE]That is a damn good idea Ekspat. This day and time there really is no excuse for not putting our technology to work like that. I think I've posted it before but if anyone PMs me I will give them my jetski contact. It's in Jomtien so if you are one of those guys who prefer to walk everywhere instead of renting a bike then it may not work for you.
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[QUOTE=Qiao Han; 1127486]She gets a phone message (why didn't I tell her to power off before) and she disengages to see. Her friend is very seeeeck here I am licking and kissing her ass as she reads the message. Oh I just hate it when they do that. I told her I want to go long time and I really want to be with her and want her to stay. She say 'you feeneesh?
Nid showers again and she texts her friend. I told her if you want to go help your friend go ahead and I will give you something for short time. I don't know if I'll ever see her again because I'm ashamed to show my face now in Baccarra. No BJ and just LFK but she was worth every satang of 2000 baht[/QUOTE]Damn the 2000 ST. My question is do the bars / agogos allow the girls to leave work when these things such as sick friends or lost keys pop up? If they tried some crap like that with me I would march their rear ends right back to their place of employment, ask for my bar fine back, and let them release the girl to whatever emergency that she had come up. I don't play those bullshit games.
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Long Time Promised, But Not Delivered
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1127557]Do the bars or go-gos allow the girls to leave work when things like sick friends or lost keys pop up? I would march their rear ends right back to their place of employment, ask for my bar fine back, and let them release the girl to whatever emergency that had come up. I don't play those bullshit games.[/QUOTE]I concur it's maddening when a girl promises long time, then invents an excuse to leave after the first fuck. It's even worse when (as here) the phone call with the bogus excuse comes before the shagging has concluded. That's why I never [i][b]ever[/i][/b] agree to long time with a girl I pick up in a go-go bar. If we finish the first session and she wants to stay over that's fine. But at the point I'm bargaining from a position of strength and the long time premium is often much reduced. If I've got my heart set on a long time session the girls in the beer bars are much more reliable when it comes to staying the course.
Bunky
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[QUOTE=Qiao Han;1127486]And so I have mixed feelings about the evening. I feel like such a jerk for going out on Gad like that, but her angry mood freaked me out. Sex should be fun and intense like it was with Nid and you shouldn't bring emotional baggage into a session or it just won't be very good. Nid showers again and she texts her friend. I told her if you want to go help your friend go ahead and I will give you something for short time. I don't know if I'll ever see her again because I'm ashamed to show my face now in Baccarra. No BJ and just LFK but she was worth every satang of 2000 baht, her sweet voice, sense of humor, kindness, a real lady in a beautiful body and those marvelous pussy mons.[/QUOTE]If your paying your the boss, Gad was just being a moody *****, you shouldn't feel bad for taking Nid, but you do relise the phone call was BS? Why are you paying a girl In Pattaya 2k ST? If she really wanted to go you could of paid no more than 1k.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1127557]Damn the 2000 ST. My question is do the bars / agogos allow the girls to leave work when these things such as sick friends or lost keys pop up? If they tried some crap like that with me I would march their rear ends right back to their place of employment, ask for my bar fine back, and let them release the girl to whatever emergency that she had come up. I don't play those bullshit games.[/QUOTE]These sick friend calls are getting silly these days, can be harder to take LT now, In the past I've had silly excuses of AC to cold In room, even when AC was switched off, or girls just getting up In the middle of the night and leaving, most expect the dumb guy to pay LT rate LOL.
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[QUOTE=Jerboa;1127747]Why are you paying a girl In Pattaya 2k ST? If she really wanted to go you could of paid no more than 1k.[/QUOTE]From what I've heard prices in baccara can't be negotiated. 2000 ST 3000 LT
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No BJ and just LFK but she was worth every satang of 2000 baht, her sweet voice, sense of humor, kindness, a real lady in a beautiful body and those marvelous pussy mons.
It's Unfortunate when this happens, where girls are now saying no to giving a BJ, or if they do you may just get 1 minute, at that. And they still expect the full pay.
Now I always ask the right questions upfront before taking a girl home.
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[QUOTE=Delgado;1127843]From what I've heard prices in baccara can't be negotiated. 2000 ST 3000 LT[/QUOTE]I had a girl drop her ST price to 1500 for me.
But that was 1 year ago, and she no longer works in Baccara.
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[QUOTE=Butter69;1127849]It's Unfortunate when this happens, where girls are now saying no to giving a BJ, or if they do you may just get 1 minute, at that. And they still expect the full pay.[/QUOTE]If she does not want to BJ, give her 10thb for the bus and kick her out