Hey guys, what's a good place to buy Viagra in Pattaya, how much should it cost and how do I use it (first timer, so need to know how long before sex to take it, how much to take and how long it lasts). Thanks!
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Hey guys, what's a good place to buy Viagra in Pattaya, how much should it cost and how do I use it (first timer, so need to know how long before sex to take it, how much to take and how long it lasts). Thanks!
[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1127867]Hey guys, what's a good place to buy Viagra in Pattaya, how much should it cost and how do I use it (first timer, so need to know how long before sex to take it, how much to take and how long it lasts). Thanks![/QUOTE]Too young to use this for me, but if I was to want to use any of these stuff (Viagra, Kamagra.) , the first thing I'd do is to go to the hospital and tell the doctors I'm contemplating using them, then let them do a battery of tests and tell me what's ok for me to use or not.
That stuff's too dangerous to be taken lightly.
But that's just me
[QUOTE=Delgado;1127843]From what I've heard prices in baccara can't be negotiated. 2000 ST 3000 LT[/QUOTE]I've met very few girls who you can't negotiate the rate, don't believe the BS about the bar has set rates, I't's nothing to do with the bar how much the girls charge for their hoy.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1127863]If she does not want to BJ, give her 10thb for the bus and kick her out[/QUOTE]Agreed, I bet she gives BJ for her thai bf, or give her 5thb (thai rate) for baht bus LOL.
[QUOTE=Lucky Lukey;1127867]Hey guys, what's a good place to buy Viagra in Pattaya, how much should it cost and how do I use it (first timer, so need to know how long before sex to take it, how much to take and how long it lasts). Thanks![/QUOTE]Why do you need viagra, have you got laid yet? If you put It In your eye It will make you look hard LOL.
Anybody have a link to reliable transportation from BKK airport to Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1128019]Anybody have a link to reliable transportation from BKK airport to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Either get a taxi or the bus.
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1127695]I concur it's maddening when a girl promises long time, then invents an excuse to leave after the first fuck. It's even worse when (as here) the phone call with the bogus excuse comes before the shagging has concluded. That's why I never [i][b]ever[/i][/b] Agree to long time with a girl I pick up in a go-go bar. If we finish the first session and she wants to stay over that's fine. But at the point I'm bargaining from a position of strength and the long time premium is often much reduced. If I've got my heart set on a long time session the girls in the beer bars are much more reliable when it comes to staying the course.
Bunky[/QUOTE]We've all had those times. Thai girls must be so careless. I've lost count of the amount of times a friend has called after losing keys or being locked out of their loom. It's simple. She gets ST rate no matter what the excuse is. 1500baht. If they pull any excuse to leave early I never try to persuade them to stay longer or negotiate anything. If they complain about it I just smile and say sorry, you only stay ST. Bye.
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1128062]We've all had those times. Thai girls must be so careless. I've lost count of the amount of times a friend has called after losing keys or being locked out of their loom. It's simple. She gets ST rate no matter what the excuse is. 1500baht. If they pull any excuse to leave early I never try to persuade them to stay longer or negotiate anything. If they complain about it I just smile and say sorry, you only stay ST. Bye.
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]Yes either that or tell them ok I come with you to drop off keys.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1128062]We've all had those times. Thai girls must be so careless. I've lost count of the amount of times a friend has called after losing keys or being locked out of their loom. It's simple. She gets ST rate no matter what the excuse is. 1500baht. If they pull any excuse to leave early I never try to persuade them to stay longer or negotiate anything. If they complain about it I just smile and say sorry, you only stay ST. Bye.
JohnTheScot[/QUOTE]1500 for unnegociated ST? You are too generous. By paying so much you reinforce this bad behavior. How much did you negociate the LT for?
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1128019]Anybody have a link to reliable transportation from BKK airport to Pattaya?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/url]
[QUOTE=Edward M;1128091]1500 for unnegociated ST? You are too generous. By paying so much you reinforce this bad behavior. How much did you negociate the LT for?[/QUOTE]So we still discuss how much on here? [url]Yaaaawwwwnnn[/url]!
Usually 2500 if she is a stunner from gogo. Beer Bar average girl 1500. But it depends on the girl. I've paid 3000+ for a real 10/10 and would pay more if the girl was nice enough and I had to. I don't care about the money. I'm lucky enough to earn a lot of money and I really don't care about the cost. Saying that I don't overpay as a matter of course but I do pay what I have to. If I want a girl enough I'll pay what it takes. I won't miss out just to prove a point. I leave that to you more 'principled' guys who end up with an ugly girl or just settle for a wank! .
JohnTheNotSoTightScot
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1128078]Yes either that or tell them ok I come with you to drop off keys.[/QUOTE]Yeah you could do that I suppose but what's the point? She wanted out, you know that so not likely to be much enthusiasm if you force her to stay. I'd rather she just left if I knew she was just scamming me or didn't want LT. They're not slaves, it's up to them no matter what was negotiated or assumed beforehand. Just let them go and pay a much reduced fee. NEVER pay the LT fee no matter how many times she'd fucked you. They will be pissed off or disaapointed and that's enough to prove the point. I can always get another one tomorrow. .
JohnTheScot
[QUOTE=Johnthescot; 1128112]So we still discuss how much on here?
[url]Yaaaawwwwnnn[/url]
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Usually 2500 if she is a stunner from gogo. Beer Bar average girl 1500. But it depends on the girl. I've paid 3000+ for a real 10/10 and would pay more if the girl was nice enough and I had to. I don't care about the money. I'm lucky enough to earn a lot of money and I really don't care about the cost. Saying that I don't overpay as a matter of course but I do pay what I have to. If I want a girl enough I'll pay what it takes. I won't miss out just to prove a point. I leave that to you more 'principled' guys who end up with an ugly girl or just settle for a wank! .
JohnTheNotSoTightScot[/QUOTE]Granted I was only there for 9 days but I never lost a girl in Pattaya that I wanted over money. In this game paying more doesn't get you more and often gets you less.
[QUOTE=Edward M;1128122]Granted I was only there for 9 days but I never lost a girl in Pattaya that I wanted over money. In this game paying more doesn't get you more and often gets you less.[/QUOTE]Yeah more money doesn't equal better service. Totally agree. I just mean if I really liked a girl I'd pay what I had to. I've had some 10/10 absolute stunners that I'd have paid any amount for. .
Thankfully that's rare.
I have paid more than I should have a couple of times though but that was to get a must have girl away from another guy. That was low. But worth it.
JohnThescot
I work with a lot of Scots guys you must have some English blood in you if money is not your top priority!
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1128136]I work with a lot of Scots guys you must have some English blood in you if money is not your top priority!
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU[/QUOTE]Let's not get into this debate here please? He is Scottish and what does that have to do with anything eh?
LEt's stick to the pussy.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1128149]Let's not get into this debate here please? He is Scottish and what does that have to do with anything eh?
LEt's stick to the pussy. [/QUOTE]Because they admit to being the cheapest. I have a friend and attorney McAlindin (though in truth much like our little friends here if I werent paying we wouldn't be friending) who says that "his people (the Scots) are cheaper than the Jews but they (the Jews) got the rep. Perfect!" Methinks Johnscot has heard it before but don't shoot the messenger...
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1127554]That is a damn good idea Ekspat. This day and time there really is no excuse for not putting our technology to work like that.[/QUOTE]They'll just find something "broken" on the inside then.
They're doing a good job. Last time I went, I even saw they have some specials that are not bad. 900b for 10 drinks (which is about a 300b discount) , and a "buy 6 get 1" barfine deal.
[QUOTE=Spanishboy 29; 1126388]They a lot now in mix nightclub and the new nightclub Lima Lima on underground mixx, if you are there you will see it.
If you are casanova so you will get free and if you are professional hunter so you know the game and if you are farang ding dong everone play with you. [/QUOTE]Spanishboy,
Are you picking up all your girls at Mixx and Limalima? I was there two weeks ago and there were more men than women inside the clubs. Also, all the women seemed to be with their Russian boyfriends / friends.
Are you approaching women who are with men? Or together only with female friends?
[QUOTE=Mastorr;1128103][url]Http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/url][/QUOTE]I can vouch for these guys. Booked two trips last fall via e-mail: One from my hotel in Bangkok to Pattaya and one from Pattaya back to the BKK airport. Received prompt confirmations via e-mail from the boss. The drivers were early both times, even on the airport trip that started at 2:00 am Called me on my cell to let me know they had arrived. First car was Camry-like. Very comfy. Second car was Corolla-sized. A little smaller, but still OK. Drivers knew exactly where they were going. Recommended.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Bunky; 1128447]I can vouch for these guys. Booked two trips last fall via e-mail: One from my hotel in Bangkok to Pattaya and one from Pattaya back to the BKK airport. Received prompt confirmations via e-mail from the boss. The drivers were early both times, even on the airport trip that started at 2:00 am Called me on my cell to let me know they had arrived. First car was Camry-like. Very comfy. Second car was Corolla-sized. A little smaller, but still OK. Drivers knew exactly where they were going. Recommended.
Bunky[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Taxi info. I was going to inquire about a taxi from BBK to Pattaya. How long in advance should I contact them? My trip is in May.
I don't like much to go outside, and I prefer outcall. Does any of you have ever used these services below or any others? Any comments about them, please?
[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/home.html[/url]
And a question to the experts on soapy / shower: usually, foreplay in the shower / tub is allowed by them? I mean, some BJ, touching, kissing, etc? Or is it more on the mechanical side?
Cheers,
Sauro
Hi everyone! Thank you so much for all this information! My problem is now I have too many options. I can't decide between Thailand, Philippines, or Indonesia. I lived and worked in Thailand about 10 years ago, but met a non pro Thai girl and was with her for my entire stay, so I still feel very inexperienced with the P4P scene there. I'm definitely an Ass man so in which of these three countries are girls more likely to be up for backdoor action? Which country has less inhibited girls? Any info would really help!
Thanks everyone,
Satyr
[QUOTE=Sauro07; 1128924]I don't like much to go outside, and I prefer outcall. Does any of you have ever used these services below or any others? Any comments about them, please?
[url]http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/home.html[/url]
And a question to the experts on soapy / shower: usually, foreplay in the shower / tub is allowed by them? I mean, some BJ, touching, kissing, etc? Or is it more on the mechanical side?
Cheers,
Sauro[/QUOTE]Went twice last high season and once this last one. Pricey but had great time on each occasion. Last year had singles and double this last time. 2 hours with 2 cuties in their top room was about 4, 500 baht. Not to waste time with the massage I told them straight off I wanted full service so off came their cloths and went straight at it for the full 2 hours.
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter;1128543]Thanks for the Taxi info. I was going to inquire about a taxi from BBK to Pattaya. How long in advance should I contact them? My trip is in May.[/QUOTE]I can also vouch for these guys. I've used them 12 times now, the most recent trip was last Sunday. The drivers speak little or no English, but they're informed of your destination by the boss. If you go to their website, you'll see that you just have to give them a couple of days notice.
Highly recommended.
[QUOTE=David 2; 1129211]I can also vouch for these guys. I've used them 12 times now, the most recent trip was last Sunday. The drivers speak little or no English, but they're informed of your destination by the boss. If you go to their website, you'll see that you just have to give them a couple of days notice.
Highly recommended. [/QUOTE]Thanks David2 greatly appreciated.
trip to pattaya ended on the 25th. extremely busy this trip, and now in tokyo. just a few endnotes.
on the 24th had my usual breakfast of champions. 3 eggs and coffee for 60 baht. walked on soi po going towards br and stuck my hand out and found a cutie. you can see from the po pictures, quite pretty. at 19 years old, she the youngest this trip. [b]see pictures[/b]. am always a bit reluctant to get a teen, since often they do not perform well / can't handle the pounding. no idea if she worked a massage or br, but i offered 500 baht and quickly accepted. went to the ps hotel. she performed as badly as i feared, and did not like the pounding one bit. no creativity. tried to rush me, and the usual whining. the second i paid her, ran out the door like the wind.
gather no sympathy, eh?
from there went walking up br. note pic of two br cuties [b]see picture[/b]. about 20 minutes after picture saw two other gals, figure 45 to 55 years old. large tits. huge. looked at that them and knew that those are the girls who could really take a pounding. and after, they'd want more. made my mouth water. realized that i blew it, wasted it on that stupid 19 year old, rather than a woman who can give and take it as a real woman should. oh well. you all can keep your 3000 baht 19 year old star fish go-go girls. i'll take the women who knows what she doing, and enjoy flucking. cause i'd bet you that ugly 40 to 50-something will outfuck any 19 year old go-go gal 10 days a week. later on that day made it to soi 6. gal i've known for a long time. for 1000 baht, she all anal. figure in her mid-30s. bit rounder. and as always, a great performance. [b]see pictures. [/b] last gal i found where ws meets br about midnight, a few hours before my car picked me up for the airport. incredible bj which just did not end. only problem was her teeth scraped little popper near raw. i kept telling her to be careful. had to admire her spirit however.
[b]just to sum up. [/b]
* length of trip. four weeks.
* average number of gals each day. 1.5 girls.
* last four days had two girls a day. very last day had three.
* gals all different types, shapes, sizes, ages, etc. love variety.
* number of bar fines. zero.
* number of bought lady drinks. zero.
* number of go-go bars entered. two.
* number of bar beers where i sat down. zero.
* guessing of all the fl, one or two were go-go girls who were off work, four were bar beers (also off work). all others had their own different stories. had countless non-pros who just needed a bit of rent money or their business was not going well. 85 percent plus gave me their cell phone, and i rarely requested it. many spoke near zero english.
* number of gals analed. four or five.
* number of gals who were 100 percent bj, cim. nine. probably much more.
* number of gals who gave at least some bj. all but one.
* number of gals i took to a movie. one.
* number of gals i bought a thai whiskey for at a thai bar. one.
* number of gals i bought a meal for. five or six (and it safe to say the girls prefer a meal to some damn ld!).
* number of gals near obese. one.
* number of gals in their 40s or 50s. five. or more.
* number of gals from malaysia and or china. two or three.
* price range for all the fls (short time only). between 500 and 800 baht.
* most expensive gal. soi 6, 1200 baht. and she was worth it.
[b]on the food front:[/b]
* number of mangoes eaten each day. three or four from 25 to 35 baht each.
* other daily fruits. fresh coconuts. (20 baht) three or more daily watermelons, pineapples, etc at (10 baht / bag)
* daily breakfast. three eggs and coffee for 60 baht or 120 baht with wifi. add 20 baht for tip.
* most common dinner. skinless white chicken on a stick at 2 for 20 baht and two eggs for 40 baht. watch them carefully as they cook it. never "salt" or butter. undercook the eggs. overcook the chicken.
* worst meal. last evening went to secrets. overpriced. disgusting. cause of all the grease, my heart nearly exploded. perhaps many of you obese farangs would like that crap. too bad cause i usually a fan of secret's parties.
* most expensive meal. the manhattan. went with friends. my plate was 1700 baht. theirs were 500. 1000 baht more. nice change of atmosphere. great food. expensive. classy. almost like leaving the country.
* favorite meal. the fish [b]see picture[/b]. usual dish is 200, 220, and 250 baht. have them cut off the head and tail. this one included rice, which i returned. imo there is no better dinner.
* number of french fries eaten. zero.
[b]dental:[/b] i went to the place across tuc com. absolutely satisfied.
* cost to get teeth cleaned. 700 baht.
* cost to repair 1 filling and fix 1 cavity. 1400 baht.
in a few days leaving for philippines. angeles city. overall hate ac. shithole. corrupt to the core. damn teenage gang bangers. beggars. pollution. insanely overpriced hotels (thanks orchid and abc). kokomoz always sucked. those who know my posts know i despise the concepts of bfs and ld pressure, and yet that is pretty much all ac. have friend there who must visit, and there are ways to (quietly) avoid the bar bs. am now skimming over a few hundred pages from the ac thread on isg. but have been going to ac for over a decade now, and doubt much has changed in past three years other than the bar names. prob should do cebu instead. always liked it there.
will hopefully make an update poppers pattaya hotel guide a year from today. intelligent suggestions appreciated.
-popper.
btw: hated everything about pattaya. worst vacation of my life. don't go. complete waste of time.
[quote=popper1; 1129437][b]just to sum up. [/b]
* length of trip. four weeks.
* average number of gals each day. 1.5 girls.
* last four days had two girls a day. very last day had three.
* gals all different types, shapes, sizes, ages, etc. love variety.
* number of bar fines. zero.
* number of bought lady drinks. zero.
* number of go-go bars entered. two.
* number of bar beers where i sat down. zero. [/quote]i'm speechless!
4 weeks in patts and never sat down in a beer bar, not buy a single ld and no bf also!
how it's possible to not stop in a beer bar in 4 weeks ???
u had ur beer in 7/11 ?
for your next vacation you really should go in another country.
how it's possible to hate a place like pattaya?
certainly not the best holiday destination but for a monger that's just the paradise!
anyway thank's for your review.
Dear Pal,
Had the chance to visit BKK and Pataya on short trip of 3 days, going for the first time so had no hands on experience, landed in the morning at BKK and drove straight to Pattaya, checked in after lunch then had a peak at the Tiffan* Sho, its good entertainment, then as suggested by a local headed to Rasputi* which is suppose to be a Massage Parlour and about 3 KM from Walking Street (or can be called Fuc*ing Street) went in and was greeted by one of the PAPASAN, they have a bar inside as you make selection of your gal for the evening you can sip in a beer, sat along the restaurant type arrangement, they have two types one with black badges and other with Red, black are expensive about 2500 baht and red for 2000 baht both for 1. 5 hr, selected a gal name nina, was taken to the counter to pay cash and get the room key, was taken to 3rd floor, got into the room, they provide room service also if you need anything to drink, ordered one but was very expensive, double than a pub, the gal closed the door and we had a sweet chat for about 15 mins and turns out she is model in BKK for Lingerie and was on call here for some time, ohh. I forgot to mention, I took the one with black badge. In the meantime she prepared the jacquzi for the wash and massage, there after we both went into the jacquzi and had spent about 20 mins where she was taking care of all of my body rubbing with bath gel and giving so called massage. There after had a very good fu*k and later had a good time chatting with her, though her english was very very limited, she was chatter box. Then got her through for a second round for 700 baht tip (I know its very expensive, but I liked her attitude and service hence I paid). Overall had a very good time, spent about 2 hrs and no problem from the PAPASAN.
Photos in the photo gallery.
Ratings.
Place. 9/10.
Gal. 9/10 she has the perfect body but tiny boo*s which is usual in Thailan*
Service. 8/10 one less as no kissing.
Attitude. 9/10.
Repeat. Yup for sure if I get another chance to go to Pattaya which I suspect.
Play safe and enjoy Thai.
Cheers.
BHR
[quote=marteau; 1129486]i'm speechless!
4 weeks in patts and never sat down in a beer bar, not buy a single ld and no bf also!
how it's possible to not stop in a beer bar in 4 weeks?
u had your beer in 7/11?
how it's possible to hate a place like pattaya?
certainly not the best holiday destination but for a monger that's just the paradise! [/quote]marteau, mon bon homme, he was kidding about hating pattaya. i don't go to beer bars, buy lady drinks, nor bar fine either. first of all i do not drink much. the drinking that i do is usually in my room with a female. i mean i can buy a 70 cl bottle of sang som for 229 baht and other thai whiskey for less than that, versus about 150 per drink at a bar. also, there are so many women around that it really is not necessary to pay bar fines and such. for the price of 1 bar fine or 2 lady drinks you could have another lady.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1129065]Went twice last high season and once this last one. Pricey but had great time on each occasion. Last year had singles and double this last time. 2 hours with 2 cuties in their top room was about 4, 500 baht. Not to waste time with the massage I told them straight off I wanted full service so off came their cloths and went straight at it for the full 2 hours.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. My plan is to call to the hotel, so I believe the standard will be the same. But I like the foreplay a lot, so I'll go for the complete deal.
Obs. : if you guys have other suggestions for outcall can you post a note? Reports to follow.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Popper1;1129437]* Number of gals from Malaysia and or China. Two or three.[/QUOTE]Cool report, I like your writeup style. Any more insight on gals from Malaysia and China? Where did you find them? How did you pick them up?
[QUOTE=Satyr23; 1129049]Hi everyone! Thank you so much for all this information! My problem is now I have too many options. I can't decide between Thailand, Philippines, or Indonesia. I lived and worked in Thailand about 10 years ago, but met a non pro Thai girl and was with her for my entire stay, so I still feel very inexperienced with the P4P scene there. I'm definitely an Ass man so in which of these three countries are girls more likely to be up for backdoor action? Which country has less inhibited girls? Any info would really help!
Thanks everyone,
Satyr[/QUOTE]I am think Thailand is the best place.
And if you go to Pattaya then soi 6. You will find a lot of backdoor action?
Good luck.
[quote=marteau; 1129486]i'm speechless!
4 weeks in patts and never sat down in a beer bar, not buy a single ld and no bf also!
how it's possible to not stop in a beer bar in 4 weeks?
u had your beer in 7/11? [/quote]mr. e, correct.
would you pay for snow in alaska during winter?
pay lady drinks. why?
pay bar fine. why?
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you need join my church. church is called [i][b]bar fines and lady drinks are for suckers, tourists, noobs. [/b][/i]
do you enjoy bar beers cause of that dopey connect 4 game? is it the conversation? let me guess.
"whad yew name."
"where yew fwom."
"you wan boom boom."
[b][i]aces on great dialog! ! [/b][/i]
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certainly bar beer / go-go girls are not put on this earth for conversation. what have they to say of _ _ _ world politics? democracy spreading throughout the middle east? those right wing fools on faux? life in southern california? last year world series? the economy? hawkings' newest theory on the big bang? experiences as a world traveler? newest in tech trends. ding dong girls have nothin' to say.
you want examples of bar owner pimp abuse. no need to look any further than angeles city. [b][i]especially[/i] throughout ac[/b]. it is so bad in ac, pimps set it up [b][i]very deliberately[/i][/b] that it nearly impossible to get girls without going to a ripoff bar.
w / o bar owner pimps in angeles, price would be half. less than half. everyone is getting screwed in ac. reason it's dying.
waste of time.
waste of cash.
waste of fun.
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if i could, would get rid of each and every bar beer and go-go throughout pattaya. i do pattaya one to three times a year now for over a decade. have not sat at a bar beer (unless w / a farang friend) in perhaps over five years. might. might do one or two lds per year, but only cause am not a strict church member. can't even remember my last pattaya bar fine. could be over five years ago.
here's the point.
want to drink. do that anywhere.
want to meet women. do pattaya.
and [b][i]don't[/i] [/b] let pattaya do you.
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[b]the world would be a better place if there were less churches and more wh0re houses. [/b]
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1130119]Mr. E, correct.
Would you pay for snow in Alaska during winter?
Pay Lady Drinks. Why?
Pay Bar fine. Why?
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You need join my Church. Church is called [i][b]Bar Fines and Lady Drinks are for Suckers, Tourists, Noobs. [/b][/i]
Do you enjoy bar beers cause of that dopey connect 4 game? Is it the conversation? Let me guess.
"Whad yew name."
"Where yew fwom."
"You wan boom boom."
[b][i]Aces on great dialog! ! [/b][/i]
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Certainly bar beer / Go-Go girls are not put on this Earth for conversation. What have they to say of _ _ _ World politics? Democracy spreading throughout the middle east? Those Right Wing fools on Faux? Life in Southern California? Last year World Series? The economy? Hawkings' newest theory on the Big Bang? Experiences as a world traveler? Newest in tech trends. Ding dong girls have nothin' to say.
You want examples of bar owner pimp abuse. No need to look any further than Angeles City. [b][i]Especially[/i] Throughout AC[/b]. It is so bad in AC, pimps set it up [b][i]very deliberately[/i][/b] That it nearly impossible to get girls without going to a ripoff bar.
W / o Bar Owner pimps in Angeles, price would be half. Less than half. Everyone is getting screwed in AC. Reason it's dying.
Waste of time.
Waste of cash.
Waste of fun.
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If I could, would get rid of each and every bar beer and go-go throughout Pattaya. I do Pattaya one to three times a year now for over a decade. Have not sat at a bar beer (unless w / a farang friend) in perhaps over five years. Might. Might do one or two LDs per year, but only cause am not a strict Church member. Can't even remember my last Pattaya Bar Fine. Could be over five years ago.
Here's the point.
Want to drink. Do that anywhere.
Want to meet women. Do Pattaya.
And [b][i]DON'T[/i] [/b] Let Pattaya do you.
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[b]The world would be a better place if there were less churches and more wh0re houses. [/b][/QUOTE]Wow, such a world traveler.
Sorry, but I have been buying lady drinks and paying bar fines since 1978 in Pattaya. Why, because the girl gets half or a portion of the money. Also, the girls that bring in more drinks and barfines get more respect from the Mamasan.
And who in the fuck needs great conversation from one of the girls in Pattaya? I personally don't want to hear their thoughts on global warming or the environment; I can hear that crap here in California. Connect four and that dumb dice game is fine with me. The outdoor bars have some great women that are just trying to make a living like anyone else in Pattaya.
So in closing; fuck your church!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1130124]Why, because the girl gets half or a portion of the money.[/QUOTE]No, the bar gets half or more of the money. Be like Popper, give ALL of the money to the girl.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1130134]No, the bar gets half or more of the money. Be like Popper, give ALL of the money to the girl.[/QUOTE]In what report did you read, that the stud gives ALL the money to the girl; sorry, I must have missed the report.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1130124]Wow, such a world traveler.
Sorry, but I have been buying lady drinks and paying bar fines since 1978 in Pattaya. Why, because the girl gets half or a portion of the money. Also, the girls that bring in more drinks and barfines get more respect from the Mamasan.
And who in the fuck needs great conversation from one of the girls in Pattaya? I personally don't want to hear their thoughts on global warming or the environment; I can hear that crap here in California. Connect four and that dumb dice game is fine with me. The outdoor bars have some great women that are just trying to make a living like anyone else in Pattaya.
So in closing; fuck your church![/QUOTE]Agreed. There is so much crap being written on here it makes me want to puke. This is a party town. Spend some money on the girls. Party with them. Make them want to stay in Pattaya. The girls are not that stupid. If all they see is falangs not willing to pay they are going to go else where and the only ones left in Pattaya will be the ones that no one wants to fuck. Can't afford Asia. Stay in the west.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1130124]So in closing; fuck your church![/QUOTE]Right fucking on Mr Tom. I too am tired of hearing this crap form these tightwads. I think they may have self esteem issues and are obsessed with getting "taken" advantage of all the time. So they have to try and take advantage of others. What a miserable fucking existence!
Being a cheap charlie and watching what you spend takes all the fun and joy out of it. We are here to have fun!
Personally I prefer to pick up FLs and part timers at clubs like Walking Street. Not because of the $$$, but because of the better GFE they provide. But I do liek to pop into the GoGos and Beer Bars occasionally too.
Pattaya is a fucking dream come true. Great ladies, food, and wonderful friendly Thai people. Sure it's kind of a dump, but you can always grab a girl and head out to one of the gorgeous islands near by (Koh Chang, Koh Samui).
I've had some of the best times of my life in Pattaya (just last summer!) and I can't wait to get back.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1130135]In what report did you read, that the stud gives ALL the money to the girl; sorry, I must have missed the report.[/QUOTE]If he's dealing directly with the girl, of course she is the one receiving all the money which he pays.
[QUOTE=N Parky;1130148]Agreed. There is so much crap being written on here it makes me want to puke. This is a party town. Spend some money on the girls. Party with them. Make them want to stay in Pattaya. The girls are not that stupid. If all they see is falangs not willing to pay they are going to go else where and the only ones left in Pattaya will be the ones that no one wants to fuck. Can't afford Asia. Stay in the west.[/QUOTE]Actually Popper is the one having a party, with the girls. Seems to me he gets on pretty well with a lot of them. The girls are not that stupid. If all they see is falangs willing to pay for window dressing, then they are going to work as coyote girls and earn double without having to fuck anyone. Can't get enough of being screwed over in the West? Stay in the west.
That's also an overstatement, like your overstatement. I agree it's party town. Have a ball any way you feel like it. But Popper has a point.
[QUOTE=Hotshanehot; 1129996]I am think Thailand is the best place.
And if you go to Pattaya then soi 6. You will find a lot of backdoor action?
Good luck. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. I recently heard that soi 7 and 8 are good bets for ass willing wenches, though not so much as soi 6. Also Devils Den is a sure bet! From what I've been told girls are seperated into those who take it up their arse and those who prefer not to.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1128019]Anybody have a link to reliable transportation from BKK airport to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]
You can find several reliable private taxi services and some information about one bus service in this post (for instance): [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2182-Travel-Announcements-Only-(No-questions-or-comments-please)&p=1018102&viewfull=1#post1018102[/url]
About the private taxi services mentioned in this previous post, I usually book them about one week in advance and never have had any problem so far. You can also use one of the regular meter-taxis: it's approximately the same price overall (or even a bit less expensive), but usually, those cars are less comfortable than those used by the private taxi services.
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1128112]... I've paid 3000+ for a real 10/10 and would pay more if the girl was nice enough and I had to.[/QUOTE]
I would love to see a picture of this "real 10/10". Care to post one, please?
[QUOTE=Johnthescot;1128112]... If I want a girl enough I'll pay what it takes. I won't miss out just to prove a point. I leave that to you more 'principled' guys who end up with an ugly girl or just settle for a wank![/QUOTE]
I understand your point of view, but there is plenty of very attractive girls that are available for much less money in this country... With all due respect, I have not been impressed so far by any of the girls whom you posted a picture in the photo gallery (but I might have missed one of your perfect 10s?).
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1130354]If he's dealing directly with the girl, of course she is the one receiving all the money which he pays.[/QUOTE]Neither of us have no idea on what the stud gives to the women; I would think not so much whatsoever.
I will agree that mongers all have different ways of dealing with women, and I know that some men have less money than others, or want to use their money in more economic ways; I have no problem with that. However, when someone makes a statement over and over again, such as; Bar Fines and Lady Drinks are for Suckers, Tourists, Noobs. It tends to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1130492]... there is plenty of very attractive girls that are available for much less money in this country...[/QUOTE]That is quite true, and I really don't think that the market is ruined when some guys pay more than the going rate.
That just has the effect of attracting more girls to the market, and the more the girls, the more reasonable the costs.
Charlie Sheen pays $30, 000 each for 3 or 4 of his "godesses" overnight. His porn star chicks are nice but no better than what is available here for a small fraction of that price.
I've found that the more I pay, the less the quality and satisfaction of the encounter. Girls don't have much respect for guys who overpay them.
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1130273]Right fucking on Mr Tom. I too am tired of hearing this crap form these tightwads. I think they may have self esteem issues and are obsessed with getting "taken" advantage of all the time. So they have to try and take advantage of others. What a miserable fucking existence!
Being a cheap charlie and watching what you spend takes all the fun and joy out of it. We are here to have fun!
Personally I prefer to pick up FLs and part timers at clubs like Walking Street. Not because of the $$$, but because of the better GFE they provide. But I do liek to pop into the GoGos and Beer Bars occasionally too.
Pattaya is a fucking dream come true. Great ladies, food, and wonderful friendly Thai people. Sure it's kind of a dump, but you can always grab a girl and head out to one of the gorgeous islands near by (Koh Chang, Koh Samui).
I've had some of the best times of my life in Pattaya (just last summer!) and I can't wait to get back. [/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. In paradise you don't count the pennies. If you can't afford it don't come. Stay away.
It's very sad, to go half way around the world, to find second rate hookers on the street that are too ugly, to tired or precluded from working night clubs and bars due to their health conditions. Hookers that the Thais themselves would never touch. Thai bars and clubs are always full (of Thais) spending US$10 for their beers and tipping dancers US$20They get the best now leaving the left overs (normally with a couple of kids in tow). They make foreign bars look cheap, they frown upon the west and see them as Cheap Charlie's sat outside 7/11 drinking beer and eating noodles. I guess the west has a new place and several postings here only make this worse.
Thais are tipping more than westerners. Westerners are going the same way as the dinosaurs.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1130568]That is quite true, and I really don't think that the market is ruined when some guys pay more than the going rate. -- That just has the effect of attracting more girls to the market, and the more the girls, the more reasonable the costs. -- I've found that the more I pay, the less the quality and satisfaction of the encounter. Girls don't have much respect for guys who overpay them.[/QUOTE]Daddy, as usual, very good points.
Thailand's population is a young, and there is very little significant public economic development investment outside of greater Bangkok (except for possibly Chonburi & Chiang Mai). Hence, there will be a constant stream of young, tight bodied cuties from Isaan, and other rural regions, migrating to Pattaya for a long time to come. The economic pull is just too strong.
Ironically, these girls are treated as heroes when there return to their villages with bags of presents and money for Mama & the kids, and booze and cigarettes for all the uncles and brothers. But, after the hugs wear off, Mama starts waking them up early for chores and they have to make their own som tam, so after a few days, it's back on the mini-van for Pattaya, Soi Cowboy, or Nana. Sleep, eat, go to the salon, drink, fuck, repeat cycle.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1130492]I would love to see a picture of this "real 10/10". Care to post one, please? I understand your point of view, but there is plenty of very attractive girls that are available for much less money in this country... With all due respect, I have not been impressed so far by any of the girls whom you posted a picture in the photo gallery (but I might have missed one of your perfect 10s?).[/QUOTE]You need to explain this to me – so Johnthescot (JTS) nails some little girl that HE THINKS is a 10 but you require photo verification – WHY!
Do you not believe he had a girl HE THOUGHT was a 10? (seems unlikely since I'm sure we've all had girls we thought were 10's)
Do you not think there are 10's in Bangkok (seems unlikely, but possible I guess)?
Do you think there ARE 10's in BKK but they just won't go with JTS for some reason (also seems unlikely but also possible, I guess)?
I'm confused, what are you verifying?
[QUOTE=Jerboa; 1128004]I've met very few girls who you can't negotiate the rate, don't believe the BS about the bar has set rates, I't's nothing to do with the bar how much the girls charge for their hoy.
Agreed, I bet she gives BJ for her thai bf, or give her 5thb (thai rate) for baht bus LOL. [/QUOTE]Baht bus has been 10B for THAIS (for at least a year now) It can be more depending on where the START and finish point are (Naklua is 10B more, Jomtien is 10 B more from Pattayta central zone)
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1130715]You need to explain this to me – so Johnthescot (JTS) nails some little girl that HE THINKS is a 10 but you require photo verification – WHY!
Do you not believe he had a girl HE THOUGHT was a 10? (seems unlikely since I'm sure we've all had girls we thought were 10's)
Do you not think there are 10's in Bangkok (seems unlikely, but possible I guess)?
Do you think there ARE 10's in BKK but they just won't go with JTS for some reason (also seems unlikely but also possible, I guess)?
I'm confused, what are you verifying? [/QUOTE]It's an illogical extension of the price war debate on ISG. When a member reports that said member had a stunner and paid more (or is willing to pay more) than the 'going rate' he is asking them to post a pic so he can determine if she was indeed a 10 and thereby grant his approval or (likely) disapproval as the case may be.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1130715]You need to explain this to me – so Johnthescot (JTS) nails some little girl that HE THINKS is a 10 but you require photo verification – WHY! ...[/QUOTE]Mainly because he wrote that other guys who are not willing to pay as much as him "end up with an ugly girl or just settle for a wank"! So, I am curious to see what is a "real 10/10" that is worth 3000+ baht (ST or LT, by the way?), according to him.
I also believe that it is interesting for the other ISG members as well. Some of them might be willing to pay as much as him if they see that the girl is really much more beautiful than the average hooker, while the others might think that it's probably not worth it (according to them). Without any picture, it's impossible to tell!
Recently, another ISG member (Der Tourist) posted several pictures of very attractive women. While I would not pay as much as him nowadays, I understand perfectly why he and other punters (especially those who are just tourists and who don't have the same opportunities that the long-time residents may have) would pay more than the average going rate for this quality (in Bangkok).
A couple of months ago, you (Rjsss212) posted several pictures of another very attractive woman. It was interesting to know how much you paid for her company. Then, each male ISG member reading this board can decide if, according to him, he would pay the same amount for such quality (for instance, a 9/10 on his personal scale) or if he would rather pay half or a third of this price for a much more common 7/10. The more information we have, the better, IMHO.
As I have already said in another thread, I don't condone overpaying in the Land of Smiles, but it's mainly when people are paying much more than the average going rates for average or substandard quality.
I hope that it is not the case for JohnTheScot, especially since he had spoken quite badly about the quality of the girls (qualifying them as "ugly") that other punters who are not willing to pay as much as him end up with. So, that's why I would like him to post a picture of his "real 10/10", especially since I have failed so far to see one particularly attractive girl among the pictures he had posted to date.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1130568]That is quite true, and I really don't think that the market is ruined when some guys pay more than the going rate.
That just has the effect of attracting more girls to the market, and the more the girls, the more reasonable the costs. [/QUOTE]Since 1999 (year of my first sojourn in the Land of Smiles), I have noticed that the average quality of the girls is becoming much lower in the tourist destinations. I don't know whether or not the working girls are more numerous nowadays on this market (I would say about the same number), but in the not-so-ancient past, many unattractive girls would not have dared trying their luck in working as prostitutes. Nowadays, it's a known fact among the local girls that most tourists don't know much about the local economics and that many are willing to pay much more than the going rates even for average or substandard quality.
So, maybe overpaying attracts more girls to the P4P market, but (on average again), the overall quality is becoming much lower than in the past in the tourist destinations (older girls, mothers, etc.: most of them would not dare trying to work on the Thai-oriented scene, even in the cheapest local brothels).
[quote]No creativity. Tried to rush me, and the usual whining. The second I paid her, ran out the door like the wind.[/quote]No connection with the "pay as little as possible" mentality?
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1130417]Thanks for the tip. I recently heard that soi 7 and 8 are good bets for ass willing wenches, though not so much as soi 6. Also Devils Den is a sure bet! From what I've been told girls are seperated into those who take it up their arse and those who prefer not to.[/QUOTE]That is right.
It is one of best place to go.
I to have been and will be back there next month
I want to study Thai language and cuisine when I'm in Pattaya. Does anyone have any experience with any of the schools there? Any recommendations?
Thanks!
Yes my filipina and some of her friends model on web cam. My free cams. Not all are hookers. Some are really nice girls that really enjoy playing in front of others.
Ok. So we, my fillipina girl and I went to Pattaya after a few days in Bangkok.
First went to x zone on soi 16.
Got there early but we sat as the girls arrived and had a drink.
They had girls dancing on stage and put on dildo show with two heavy set girls. Too big for my taste.
But the second two girls were better looking. L.
Did not get any prices as I was just bar hopping.
Went to sweethearts ago go. Nice place on walking street somewhere around close to soi 15.
Girls very nice and friendly. Some not really friendly because I ahve girl with me.
But owner / manager? Comes up and says Hi? Makes you feel welcomed.
Met one girl that wanted short time upstairs. I think it was bar fine and 2000 baht for her. Maybe one or two hours.
I said no. Too expensive to me. But the girls were looking good and friendly.
Busy place.
Then went up soi 15 to whats up bar.
Nice show and hot girls. Did not even ask prices as on previous times they were very expensive.
I am too spoiled now to be shelling out a lot for short time. Unless I am really turned on by the girl.
And wearing condoms I need to be really turned on.
Went home and on another night went back to baby dolls agogo across from what s upl.
We did take a girl from here she wanted 1500 baht for short time.
Maybe 2 to 4 hours.
And she gave my girl many orgasms while dinner at the why. And I fucked her from behind.
But after I lost erection she gave me massage and after a bit of time I got another erection and she finished.
Me off with good fucking.
She left but she took good care of my girl and I and we were both very happy with her.
Had a good time in Pattaya but a little more crowded and expensive then I like.
[QUOTE=N Parky;1130569]Couldn't agree more. In paradise you don't count the pennies. If you can't afford it don't come. Stay away.[/QUOTE]I am just curious. About how long do you stay in asia?
I live in Philippines and visit to Thailand often. Hve friends there and I do like the girls.
But I am spoiled by the girls I pick. And yes I am realatively cheap and then again I take better care of girls I get to know.
Take them to the dentist doctor and etc as needed if I develop more with them then just one time.
But I do try to spend wisely and have my limits.
I don't blame the girls for getting what they can. And if the girls ask ten thousand baht then go ahead and pay it if you want. No worry from me. I will not pay that because I think sometimes you get a gril that becomes more greedy for money and less GFE?
My expierence only. I get girls for 500 pesos in Philippines that are hot and sweet.
I have also paid small amounts for really nice girls in Thailand that tend to be better then the higher priced girls that are at some of the bars.
They want more money and get into more of a rush? In general and again my expierence only. As\\in the past I have paid lot of money for girls in USA and also Thailand and I have paid for the higher priced girls in other places.
But it is aloso always funny when someone says if you don't want to pay the high prices then don't go there.
I say go there and pay what you like. If you want to spend more money on a short time fuck.
Then why not you are happy?
If I want to wait and get a better price and pick a girl that is compatable to me then why not.
And what is wrong if I just want to buy a lady drink and sit in the bar and just play with the girls and not even bar fine?
Should I stay home because I don't bar fine? ?
Or should I stay home because I take my filipina girl with me and mostly only go with girls that will lick pussy?
Or let my girl lick her pussy?
Yes its also funny when a guy says that someone pays too much.
That is the market system / capitolism. Yes I have paid $400 in USA for a big attitude rushed girl in the USA and that is why I like to go to asia. Thailand and Pattaya over Bangkok.
The prices are better and the girls are better, more of GFE.
And yes even the as the price is higher in Thailand over the years its still a bargain compared to USA.
But if it is okay with you I will still shop around and get the girl I want at the price I want to pay?
And I am happy that anyone else is willing to pay more. As I really think there are enough girls to go around.
If I had more money or if I was only in asia for a short time I would also spend.
More money and glady help them.
To live a more affluent life
[QUOTE=Goyave;1130967]So, maybe overpaying attracts more girls to the P4P market, but (on average again), the overall quality is becoming much lower than in the past in the tourist destinations (older girls, mothers, etc.: most of them would not dare trying to work on the Thai-oriented scene, even in the cheapest local brothels).[/QUOTE]I think it reflects the very large amount of improvement in the Thai economy since 1999. More opportunities in the Thai oriented business or just working in normal jobs, so only the lower quality girls are willing to resort to servicing the despised farang.
I also have a very difficult time finding any girls I consider good looking in Pattaya for a price I'm able to pay, and on my rare visits usually just go with older less attractive ones for bargain anal sex.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1131529]I think it reflects the very large amount of improvement in the Thai economy since 1999. More opportunities in the Thai oriented business or just working in normal jobs, so only the lower quality girls are willing to resort to servicing the despised farang.[/QUOTE]The Thai economy has recieved huge incomes from tourism, including sex travellers, many of whom marry or send regular incomes like charitable donations to girls they met in P4P. Loads of these ladies got rich as a result, and open up their own businesses, rendering it needless for their families and children to go into P4P as they did.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1131529]I also have a very difficult time finding any girls I consider good looking in Pattaya for a price I'm able to pay, and on my rare visits usually just go with older less attractive ones for bargain anal sex.[/QUOTE]When one is horny or drunk enough, does it matter what they look like. The ones you see will probably also be willingly to do more for less with a better attitude. Besides, lifetimes of free porn is easily accessible for those who wish to see the hottest women in the universe from every race.
Thai bars and clubs are always full (of Thais) spending US$10 for their beers and tipping dancers US$20.
That is not true for an average Thai on an Average salary, although may be true for 'rich' clubs, and it would be interesting to know how much the 'workers' get paid. Thai employers are not known for their generosity as a rule. But it is good if ill gotten money trickles down the food chain. Maybe bought up / sold country girls get their training in such establishments. Western bars cannot get away with what well connected Thai's can.
Whatever they pay don't impress me. Oprah may pay 20K for a hairdresser session. But that is not a positive attribute. Life is not all Hollywood, when viewed far from the glitz.
Then we have the Pattaya bar girl with child who has been dumped by boyfriend / husband. Not new, but over there they do not get social welfare or alimony anywhere close to western norms. They find the best paying job for their situation. And westerners pay plenty. Chip in the state welfare budget.
The 'bad' demonstration days proved just how closely the economy was tied in. And 1/2 price to boot. Then.
If the wealth distribution does not change, some of those free spending Thais may cop a dose of whats going on in the middle east at the moment.
What Up World?
About to make my 1st jump to LOS.
I must admit, I'm little nervous. I'm a RIO vet. Unfortunatly, RIO not the same and I'm lookn for a New Hangout.
First of all, been checking out the site for a while, getting some info here and there. In RIO I know the going rates, and my Negotiating Skills. LOL. And I stick to my guns and get what I want. If not I move on to the next Girl.
So my question is what's the SENSIBLE GOING RATE for a Short Time, and Long Time. I understand there are Bar Fines involved in some situations if I snatch 1 up from a " Bar". Is is better to speak with Mamasan first or with the girl? Is 1 or 2 drinks reasnable? How about on the Street? What's the average price I '" SHOULD BE PAYING"?
I'm here for a good time, and don't want to " RAISE THE PRICE 4 PUSSY ". LOL. We don't like that in RIO. LOL.
I would really appreciate the " Heads Up ". LOL
Hi, I am going to Thailand end of March 2011. I've read around and plan on going to Pattaya using metered taxi and will be staying at penthouse hotel. The question is where to go to pick up chicks? Andthe steps to get them back to hotel with me. Such as getting their attention, drinks, barfine, and negociating price etc. Thanks. And and recommendations on what are some good places to start and places not to go to?
[QUOTE=Azndevilus;1131899]Hi, I am going to Thailand end of March 2011. I've read around and plan on going to Pattaya using metered taxi and will be staying at penthouse hotel. The question is where to go to pick up chicks? Andthe steps to get them back to hotel with me. Such as getting their attention, drinks, barfine, and negociating price etc. Thanks. And and recommendations on what are some good places to start and places not to go to?[/QUOTE]How long have you been reading here?
It has all been said here.
People have spent time in contributing with reports and information here.
You can spend some of your time now to get (=read) these information as they are all here.
If my answer is too much to read, then I can summarize in RTFF
[QUOTE=Azndevilus;1131899]Hi, I am going to Thailand end of March 2011. I've read around and plan on going to Pattaya using metered taxi and will be staying at penthouse hotel. The question is where to go to pick up chicks? Andthe steps to get them back to hotel with me. Such as getting their attention, drinks, barfine, and negociating price etc. Thanks. And and recommendations on what are some good places to start and places not to go to?[/QUOTE]To Azndevilus,
If you cannot find chick in Pattaya then you are in trouble even blind man can find action here, where thing is out in the open and bar in every where just pick the one you want paid the barfine and take her back to the hotel, if you are staying at the penthouse just go to the bar don't even need to leave the hotel or if you are blind and cripple just have someone bring you the girl to your room.
Fast Eddie 48
[QUOTE=Azndevilus;1131899]Hi, I am going to Thailand end of March 2011. I've read around and plan on going to Pattaya using metered taxi and will be staying at penthouse hotel. The question is where to go to pick up chicks? Andthe steps to get them back to hotel with me. Such as getting their attention, drinks, barfine, and negociating price etc. Thanks. And and recommendations on what are some good places to start and places not to go to?[/QUOTE]So your asking how to get laid In Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1131945]So your asking how to get laid In Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Here it is harder finding food than it is finding pussy. I've gone hungry on many days; horny never.
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1131846]What Up World?
About to make my 1st jump to LOS.
I must admit, I'm little nervous. I'm a RIO vet. Unfortunatly, RIO not the same and I'm lookn for a New Hangout.
First of all, been checking out the site for a while, getting some info here and there. In RIO I know the going rates, and my Negotiating Skills. LOL. And I stick to my guns and get what I want. If not I move on to the next Girl.
So my question is what's the SENSIBLE GOING RATE for a Short Time, and Long Time. I understand there are Bar Fines involved in some situations if I snatch 1 up from a " Bar". Is is better to speak with Mamasan first or with the girl? Is 1 or 2 drinks reasnable? How about on the Street? What's the average price I '" SHOULD BE PAYING"?
I'm here for a good time, and don't want to " RAISE THE PRICE 4 PUSSY ". LOL. We don't like that in RIO. LOL.
I would really appreciate the " Heads Up ". LOL[/QUOTE]Lots of information here about prices. Anywhere from 500 baht and up?
Everyone talks about different prices. Just read through. The north Pattaya places are cheaper then the walking street.
And the walk way on the beach are cheaper girls.
Negotiate and ask and then get a feel for what they are asking?
I am sure that it will be really easy for you as RIO is probably more difficult. The thai women are very nice and mostly sweet. Even if they are expectiing more money these days.
One of my friends does not even ask the girl what she wants.
He offers what he will pay and then that is it. Take it or leave it.
Bar girls will ask 1000 to 3000 or more if they think they can get it.
Pattaya better then Bangkok.
Read the posts here. Lots of informantion. And then try to hook up with another traveler.
I always was curioius about Rio but have it so good that no plans soon to leave asia
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1131846]What Up World?
About to make my 1st jump to LOS.
I must admit, I'm little nervous. I'm a RIO vet. Unfortunatly, RIO not the same and I'm lookn for a New Hangout.
First of all, been checking out the site for a while, getting some info here and there. In RIO I know the going rates, and my Negotiating Skills. LOL. And I stick to my guns and get what I want. If not I move on to the next Girl.
So my question is what's the SENSIBLE GOING RATE for a Short Time, and Long Time. I understand there are Bar Fines involved in some situations if I snatch 1 up from a " Bar". Is is better to speak with Mamasan first or with the girl? Is 1 or 2 drinks reasnable? How about on the Street? What's the average price I '" SHOULD BE PAYING"?
I'm here for a good time, and don't want to " RAISE THE PRICE 4 PUSSY ". LOL. We don't like that in RIO. LOL.
I would really appreciate the " Heads Up ". LOL[/QUOTE]I hear you on the Rio bit. I have no plans to go back there and before Pattaya I never would have imagined saying that. I do miss the big ass and diversity and the termas but overall everything is much better and cheaper in Asia.
My negociating experience in Pattaya was limited to LT from the gogo and beer bars. The beer bars had a 300 barfine and the gogos 500 or 600. In my experience the beer bar girls would ask for 1500 LT. You should be able to trim that some. I helped a guy out and negociated 500 LT for him once very late in a beer bar but I only managed 1200 for myself. You should be able to get less but I did not want to keep buying drinks which would have cancelled out any negociation gain. If you enjoy drinking in the bars and take you time it will help.
In the gogos sometimes a mamasan or a girl will say that they are required to charge 2000 ST and 3000 LT. All I had to say was no and it was too much and it quickly came down. I was able to get that down to 1500 to 2000 LT. The farther away you get from Walking Street the easier it will be to get the price down. A few times the mamasan tried to collect the girl's tip in advance. Do not do that. Just say you will pay her when she leaves.
[QUOTE=Edward M; 1132003]I hear you on the Rio bit. I have no plans to go back there and before Pattaya I never would have imagined saying that. I do miss the big ass and diversity and the termas but overall everything is much better and cheaper in Asia.
My negociating experience in Pattaya was limited to LT from the gogo and beer bars. The beer bars had a 300 barfine and the gogos 500 or 600. In my experience the beer bar girls would ask for 1500 LT. You should be able to trim that some. I helped a guy out and negociated 500 LT for him once very late in a beer bar but I only managed 1200 for myself. You should be able to get less but I did not want to keep buying drinks which would have cancelled out any negociation gain. If you enjoy drinking in the bars and take you time it will help.
In the gogos sometimes a mamasan or a girl will say that they are required to charge 2000 ST and 3000 LT. All I had to say was no and it was too much and it quickly came down. I was able to get that down to 1500 to 2000 LT. The farther away you get from Walking Street the easier it will be to get the price down. A few times the mamasan tried to collect the girl's tip in advance. Do not do that. Just say you will pay her when she leaves. [/QUOTE]Good Lookn Out.
Appreciate the feedback, and I will study this Knowledge. I've always wanted to check this place out. But I just could'nt escape RIO! But when they closed HELP (Major Night Club in RIO) 85 % of the WOMEN left.
The Women that catered to MONGERING I should say. The Termas are still there, but NO NIGHTLIFE!
They say its BIZNESS AS USUAL in PATTAYA, and I want to give it a shot. And ANYONE remotely thkn about chekn out RIO, I say HOLD OFF for a while. From what I been reading, ya'll been doing a LOT BETTER than us.
[QUOTE=Azndevilus;1131899]The question is where to go to pick up chicks? Andthe steps to get them back to hotel with me. Such as getting their attention, drinks, barfine, and negociating price etc.[/QUOTE]Azndevilus,
You are staying at Penthouse Hotel and asking how you find pussy!!!!!
In Pattaya you do not have to find the chics! THEY WILL FIND YOU!
No matter where you are, bar, club, go-go, shopping mall or just sitting on Beach Road. It will not be long before you hear "Hello, what you name?"
The rest follows like a "well oiled machine!"
Re any other questions just RTFF.
Enjoy,
Hotman.
Paid a visit to Bamboo bar feeling like I wanted a dance before a fuck, place was full of young hotties. Music not brilliant and the band was poor but atmosphere great. I am 54 but I was the youngest looking guy in the place, never had so much attention in a nightclub for a long time even Blitz in Abu Dhabi doesn't come close.
Cruised beach road a few times. 21:00hrs seems to be the busiest time. Anywhere from soi 10 upto walking street is where they are hnging out. Spotted a pooying with glasses hottest rack I have ever seen, she was there most nights but seemed a bit choosy on her customers face was like a welders bench.
Took a 45 year old from meeting point on 2nd road, name was Fon (No4) very nice and touchy feelly one of the wettest pussy's I have come across in Pattaya never had kids.
May the force be with you.
Just returning to UK after 8 days in Pattaya, bar fines all seem to be 300 now never managed to find a 200. However I never paid more than 1000 for all night.
May the force be with you.
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1132185]Just returning to UK after 8 days in Pattaya, bar fines all seem to be 300 now never managed to find a 200. However I never paid more than 1000 for all night.
May the force be with you. [/QUOTE]That could be an interesting development! Were these gogos or beer bars and were any of them near Walking Street?
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1131846]What Up World?
About to make my 1st jump to LOS.
I must admit, I'm little nervous. I'm a RIO vet. Unfortunatly, RIO not the same and I'm lookn for a New Hangout.
First of all, been checking out the site for a while, getting some info here and there. In RIO I know the going rates, and my Negotiating Skills. LOL. And I stick to my guns and get what I want. If not I move on to the next Girl.
So my question is what's the SENSIBLE GOING RATE for a Short Time, and Long Time. I understand there are Bar Fines involved in some situations if I snatch 1 up from a " Bar". Is is better to speak with Mamasan first or with the girl? Is 1 or 2 drinks reasnable? How about on the Street? What's the average price I '" SHOULD BE PAYING"?
I'm here for a good time, and don't want to " RAISE THE PRICE 4 PUSSY ". LOL. We don't like that in RIO. LOL.
I would really appreciate the " Heads Up ". LOL[/QUOTE]The "Heads UP" is RTFF
[QUOTE=Azndevilus;1131899]Hi, I am going to Thailand end of March 2011. I've read around and plan on going to Pattaya using metered taxi and will be staying at penthouse hotel. The question is where to go to pick up chicks? Andthe steps to get them back to hotel with me. Such as getting their attention, drinks, barfine, and negociating price etc. Thanks. And and recommendations on what are some good places to start and places not to go to?[/QUOTE]Go downstairs into the Kitten Club and ask for Tuk-Ta. She is a female not ladyboy. Trust me. In the PH forum there are a couple of pictures of her that the hotel posted.
Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1132183]Paid a visit to Bamboo bar feeling like I wanted a dance before a fuck, place was full of young hotties. Music not brilliant and the band was poor but atmosphere great. I am 54 but I was the youngest looking guy in the place, never had so much attention in a nightclub for a long time even Blitz in Abu Dhabi doesn't come close.
Cruised beach road a few times. 21:00hrs seems to be the busiest time. Anywhere from soi 10 upto walking street is where they are hnging out. Spotted a pooying with glasses hottest rack I have ever seen, she was there most nights but seemed a bit choosy on her customers face was like a welders bench.
Took a 45 year old from meeting point on 2nd road, name was Fon (No4) very nice and touchy feelly one of the wettest pussy's I have come across in Pattaya never had kids.
May the force be with you. [/QUOTE]Hey Luke how was your trip? Question, where is the Bamboo Bar? I'll be there the afternoon of May 17.
Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter; 1132352]Hey Luke how was your trip? Question, where is the Bamboo Bar? I'll be there the afternoon of May 17.
Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]I'm 75. The night I went I was the youngest looking dude in the place as well.
Turn left before entering Walking Street. It's on the right across the road. Can't miss out. Just follow the zimmer frames.
[QUOTE=Leggy11;1132406]And try Fon, Na and Noi as well. Fon has a tatoo that flows from her naval downwards. She is stunning. Leggy (as I like them). A sexy, sensual dancer and she brings this all to the bedroom. Get her in a Jacuzzi and all you need to do is lay back and enjoy it.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I will definitely give that a try. Since my first time there I don't want to go too far. So how much usually is barfine for lt and price with the girl for the night at KC?
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1132185]Just returning to UK after 8 days in Pattaya, bar fines all seem to be 300 now never managed to find a 200. However I never paid more than 1000 for all night.
May the force be with you. [/QUOTE]Wow. Fantastic. The beer bars and not the walking street area.
I was quoted lowest bar fine at 500 baht and up to 800 baht.
And girls want 2000 to 3000 bar fine.
Maybe because I had a girl with me but one girl went for 1500 for short time and she was really good so I was happy with that. But this is all on walking street area. The higher prices.
Did not see any I wanted from the north Pattaya sois?
I am getting too picky as I got a hot filipina bi girl that goes with me.
But still I go back and like to spend less money. Then I can do more.
I only bar fined one girl in two weeks as the prices were too high for me
[QUOTE=Leggy11; 1132403]I'm 75. The night I went I was the youngest looking dude in the place as well.
Turn left before entering Walking Street. It's on the right across the road. Can't miss out. Just follow the zimmer frames. [/QUOTE]Thank You Sir.
Beaverhunter
Edward M, these were all girls from beer bars, I mainly mongered on soi Diana, Fon from The meeting point 2nd road was good again 1000. Business is poor these days and many bar girls are resorting to short time to get at least some business (this was confirmed by several girls who had no need to lie) I know the old saying how do you know when a Thai girl is lying? You can hear her talking. I spotted quite a few who never left the bar all night.
I shall be adding some more reports later as another forum was blocked in the hotel.
May the force be with you.
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[QUOTE=Leggy11;1132406]And try Fon, Na and Noi as well. Fon has a tatoo that flows from her naval downwards. She is stunning. Leggy (as I like them). A sexy, sensual dancer and she brings this all to the bedroom. Get her in a Jacuzzi and all you need to do is lay back and enjoy it.[/QUOTE]So is fon, na, and Noi all in PH also? If so which pics show case them? If not where to find them?
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1132588]Edward M, these were all girls from beer bars, I mainly mongered on soi Diana, Fon from The meeting point 2nd road was good again 1000. Business is poor these days and many bar girls are resorting to short time to get at least some business (this was confirmed by several girls who had no need to lie) I know the old saying how do you know when a Thai girl is lying? You can hear her talking. I spotted quite a few who never left the bar all night.
I shall be adding some more reports later as another forum was blocked in the hotel.
May the force be with you. [/QUOTE]Why is everyone talking about barfines and prices?
Its cheap. Why argue.
Same as in my first trip 1995. 1000 bath all night. 2-300 barfine. Haven't changed a bath.
[QUOTE=Leggy11; 1132582][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7lzbaxG_tw[/url]
Tuk-Ta is in this. I remember she met me at the airport with Champagne. [/QUOTE]Yep that be her. But I do not reccommend the ANY of the hotels pickup service. Much cheaper and less bullshit. But the hotel itself should definitely be experienced.
Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1132588]Edward M, these were all girls from beer bars, I mainly mongered on soi Diana, Fon from The meeting point 2nd road was good again 1000. Business is poor these days and many bar girls are resorting to short time to get at least some business (this was confirmed by several girls who had no need to lie) I know the old saying how do you know when a Thai girl is lying? You can hear her talking. I spotted quite a few who never left the bar all night.
I shall be adding some more reports later as another forum was blocked in the hotel.
May the force be with you. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification. I only went to the beer bars on Walking Street so it makes sense that the ones on Diana would be cheaper as I found with the agogos. So the beer bar BFs used to be 200 there? That would have been great.
[QUOTE=Azndevilus;1132469]Thanks, I will definitely give that a try. Since my first time there I don't want to go too far. So how much usually is barfine for lt and price with the girl for the night at KC?[/QUOTE]If your coming all the way to Pattaya I'd suggest you take the time to explore, be a bit adventurous, and don't stick to your hotel gogo bar.
[QUOTE=Azndevilus;1131899]Hi, I am going to Thailand end of March 2011. I've read around and plan on going to Pattaya using metered taxi and will be staying at penthouse hotel. The question is where to go to pick up chicks? Andthe steps to get them back to hotel with me. Such as getting their attention, drinks, barfine, and negociating price etc. Thanks. And and recommendations on what are some good places to start and places not to go to?[/QUOTE]Azn-
You are stressing about it too much. Metered tax? I. I didn't know they existed.
Getting girls attention? They will have you summed up before you even take two steps in the bar.
Just look at them and you'll have their attention and then tell them straight out what you want and what you'll pay.
Reading the form will provide you all the answers but sometimes you just have to get out there and do it. Take some risks (like an unmetered taxi). What's the worst that can happen. You might lose $30 on a bad choice of girl. C'est la vie.
If you can tie your shoelaces everything in Pattaya is easy. Sometimes a little too easy.
[QUOTE=Bubba999;1132710]If you can tie your shoelaces everything in Pattaya is easy.[/QUOTE]Some mornings in Pattaya, I have trouble tying my shoelaces. But as long as I can find the door, it's just a few steps along in the blinding light to a soothing welcome at an oily massage shop.
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I met a chick in the disco the other night. She had glasses on and kind of looked like a square. But she was dancing her ass off and when she took the glasses off, hmmmm. She was with her sister and another girl. She was from Surin and said that it was her first day in Pattaya in about 10 years. She was supposed to come home with me but she got sick and had to leave.
The next night I called her and she came over. We fucked and started drinking then she called her sister, who was at the disco celebrating her birthday, to come over and drink with us. She could not find my place so I had to go pick her up at 7/11. My girl gave me her id and cell phone as insurance for her not stealing anything while I was gone. We stopped to get snacks, ice, and chaser for them. When we got back my girl started making drinks for us all while I had the music going.
Eventually my girl was using my computer and her sister was dancing behind her and I started fingering the sister while I was sitting on the bed. Then my girl went to the bathroom and the sister got on the computer. I took my dick out and put it in the sister's mouth. I stopped short of my girl coming back to the room. But when she did come back me and my girl started fucking on the bed and I kept tapping the sister to look. I wore my girl out and she went back to the bathroom. When she came out I was fucking her sister mish. Then my girl came behind me and started licking my ass. Then she started sucking her sister's tits and rubbing my back and kissing me.
When all was said and done we were all laying in the bed about to sleep. Then my girl said she was going to leave and let her sister stay with me. I kept trying to make her stay but she was drunk and kept insisting on leaving and it was daylight by then and I wanted some sleep. So I just let her leave. Then I fucked her sister again and we went to sleep and woke up about 3pm. Then I fucked her again and told her she could leave. All she asked for was motorcycle taxi money. Since then my girl keeps texting and calling saying how much she likes me and misses me and wants to see me again.
There it was, my own personal Devil's Den!
Back in September I took a picture of a chick from the back inside of the disco. Since then she has been #1 on my Most Wanted list. The thing is that I had no idea how she looked from the front. A couple of weeks ago I met a chick in another disco. She was all over me. I promised her that she could come home with me but I wanted to hang out with my friends for a few minutes first. She ended up leaving with another guy but I got in her shit before she left. I ended up going with her friend that night. Her friend was a wildcat in the disco, pulling my dick out and everything. But when we got to the house she was a total dud. That reminded me that an empty wagon makes the most noise. I usually like to take the quiet ones who aren't making a big scene and do not have many friends around.
So last Sunday I saw the first girl in another disco. I made it a point to get her name and number. I texted her a couple of days later asking her to come over but she said she wanted to go out with her friends. Ain't this a b? She would rather go spend money and get drunk rather than come make some easy money and relax in my cozy confines for the night. So the next day I tried her again and we agreed on 10:30pm.
She called to let me know she was on her way. I was on my motorbike at the time coming back from Carrefour. Then I started thinking that she kind of reminds me of the girl who I took the picture of back in September. But the girl on the picture had longer hair. So I picked her up at 7/11 and we went to my place. When we got there I told her the whole deal about the picture and started digging around in my computer for it. Lo and behold it was her! A dream come true. She didn't even know that I had taken the picture but she loved it and wanted it for her facebook. She said that she had to cut her hair because it was too hot. I told her that I'm sure cutting that little bit did not make a big difference as far as that issue was concerned.
We had a good night and next day together and now she is hooked. She is a totally different person than she is around her friends in the disco. She explained to me that she had to leave with the guy that night because he wanted 2 girls and would not take her friend without her going too. So she took one for the team. She is definitely on my keeper list. Now #1 on my Most Wanted list is a friend of another girl I am fucking. She says it is okay for me to fuck her friend and has even told her that. But the friend refuses to give in saying that she is just saying that but really doesn't feel that way. I almost had her by asking her to come to Chiang Mai with me but I backed out of it because I wanted to sample the locals there instead. I have to find some way to get to her.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1133060]Back in September I took a picture of a chick from the back inside of the disco. Since then she has been #1 on my Most Wanted list.[/QUOTE]Excellent post and pic (PICT0008. JPG). Keep up the good work!
Hi Guys,
Not a report, but a question.
I am thinking of revisiting Pattaya, but going earlier than November because of work.
Thinking of going from 16th to 30th September. What are to pros / cons against October in terms of weather / girls / costs? Views on hotels also gratefully recd. Stayed in Residence Garden. Good deal but pain in the ass getting back at night. LK Metropole. Good area, but more expensive / poorer service.
Primary purpose mongering.
Many thanks for any advice.
Peter
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter; 1132631]Yep that be her. But I do not reccommend the ANY of the hotels pickup service. Much cheaper and less bullshit. But the hotel itself should definitely be experienced.
Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]For me it was great. No hassels. Didn't have to worry about anything. I always us hotel taxis all over the world. Had a bad experience once that meant I paid big time. My pick up really got my vacation of to a flying start.
[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1133620]Hi Guys,
Not a report, but a question.
I am thinking of revisiting Pattaya, but going earlier than November because of work.
Thinking of going from 16th to 30th September. What are to pros / cons against October in terms of weather / girls / costs? Views on hotels also gratefully recd. Stayed in Residence Garden. Good deal but pain in the ass getting back at night. LK Metropole. Good area, but more expensive / poorer service.
Primary purpose mongering.
Many thanks for any advice.
Peter[/QUOTE]Check hystorical weather reports.
You might get in the start of monsoon season or just about
[QUOTE=Petertaylor; 1133620]Hi Guys,
Not a report, but a question. I am thinking of revisiting Pattaya, but going earlier than November because of work. Thinking of going from 16th to 30th September. What are to pros / cons against October in terms of weather / girls / costs? Views on hotels also gratefully recd. Stayed in Residence Garden. Good deal but pain in the ass getting back at night. LK Metropole. Good area, but more expensive / poorer service. Primary purpose mongering.
Many thanks for any advice. Peter[/QUOTE]It rains a lot that time of the year all over Thailand. Often the streets will flood. But eventually they will drain, and life goes on.
Low season, but there still will be women to "meet" and places to go.
Lots of good hotel deals, both on the internet (hotels) , and walking around (smaller guesthouses). Just depends where you want to be based in terms of your activities.
Cute girl.
Good beer.
Good sea.
I Love Pataya. So Mutch. :-D
[QUOTE=Leggy11;1133660]For me it was great. No hassels. Didn't have to worry about anything. I always us hotel taxis all over the world. Had a bad experience once that meant I paid big time. My pick up really got my vacation of to a flying start.[/QUOTE]Well this Is LOS not the PI, you shouldn't have a problem, why pay over the odds for a hotel transfer, when you can get a car from the airport for as little as 1k?
[QUOTE=Yamada Nobr; 1133722]Cute girl.
Good beer.
Good sea.
I Love Pataya. So Mutch. :-D[/QUOTE]Cute girl man! Did she go with you if you ask?
[QUOTE=Incel; 1132613]Why is everyone talking about barfines and prices?
Its cheap. Why argue.
Same as in my first trip 1995. 1000 bath all night. 2-300 barfine. Haven't changed a bath. [/QUOTE]That is the correct price. And one you are not likely to get lower. But not cheap given the quality.
No its $43 plus your time plus drinks. I had my shares of 1000 bt long timers, and let me say morning service was poor or non existent, or mood kill tricks used. I call this reasonable if the company remains service orientated and not making excuses to get out the door.
With GFC and a stinkin 20 hour flight, I expect the cash is king rule applied. In local terms nearly a weeks worth of wages. I expect them to keep the eye on the ball. If they just muddle. Many people may decide not to come.
In the low season. Bar owners are to blame. If they can't lower prices, they should jolly well up the service levels. I know one (overpriced) joint that flatly tells the girls if negative feedback received, they won't be recommended.
I explain that I expect 2 parties, and that if one party is not as good as the other, I may have to shop around.
Truthfully some gals will lie, even if they know I will only pay ST if they make an excuse to run. So I ask for a 2nd number for backup morning service if the chosen one gets cold feet. She gets to loose face by calling tag team partner.
[QUOTE=Azndevilus;1133865]Cute girl man! Did she go with you if you ask?[/QUOTE]Please don't end up like this guy by assuming every female in Thailand is a hooker. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuwoUM4oYe0&feature=related[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1134366]Please don't end up like this guy by assuming every female in Thailand is a hooker.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuwoUM4oYe0&feature=related[/url][/QUOTE]I don't think the offer of money is what set the girl off.
It looks like he may of grabbed her ass or called her a derogatory name as well.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1134471]I don't think the offer of money is what set the girl off.
It looks like he may of grabbed her ass or called her a derogatory name as well. [/QUOTE]I can recognize the girl who figths. Her name is Pui. She is from Khorat. She worked at a bar named by Rolling Stones. She was absolut one of the best fucks I had. (That's why I choosed her again and again and again). I wouldn't imagine that she could be so angry, as I knew her as a soft woman as silk.
Whattup WORLD,
Getting close to SHOWTIME, want to get little info. On the Nightlife scene. Now once again I'm a RIO vet. And If I'm reading this BOARD alright, things run a little different in the LOS.
For example, in RIO, things really center around the beaches COCOCABANA and IPANEMA. Rio is by first a URBAN CITY. And in that sense, you need to play by the rules of ANY CITY you visit (at least in USA ). That means if your a Tourist STAY IN THE TOURIST AREAS, unless YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR GOING! Some of the TERMAS (strip / fuck clubs) are off the GRID (tourist zone) and it's not wise too " venture off " if you don't know where your going. Don't worry it's not hard too get directions, but you need to BLEND in with the CITY. I. E. Don't be " sight seeing" and move with"a sense of purpose" And you"ll be allright.
With that in mind, unless your sitting in a open cafe, inside a TERMA, or eating at a restaurant, you reaaaaaally should'nt hanging ouside. Now before I go any further they GOT RESTAURANTS, TERMAS and BISTROS OPEN just a about ALL NITE in the GRID. But its not encouraged too be on the BACK STREETS during TWILIGHT HRS. (8 pm- 11-12 am.) Now between 11-12:30 ish am. Is when MOST OF US, hits the CLUBS.
Why so LATE? Some might ask. Well the SUPERSTARS don't really hit the CLUB till then anyway. And I'm SPOILED. LOL!
But as I've been reading, it seems " exploring" is encouraged and a little SAFER in PATTAYA. Hell, you CAT'S JUMP OFF early here. Are the STUNNERS out that EARLY? I really perfer CLUBS per se too BARS, but it seems that you can find a HONEY early and SHE'S COOL ENOUGH to take in the CLUB.
I don't know, are the FINE ONE'S out EARLY, and if I WAIT TOO LATE, I'm going to LOOSE OUT?
It's seems things run the OPPOSITE. LOL here. Not a bad thing, mind you. But I'm just tryn too MAXX OUT my first time here. So any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1134366]Please don't end up like this guy by assuming every female in Thailand is a hooker.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuwoUM4oYe0&feature=related[/url][/QUOTE]The guy did get beat up obviously, but the commentary is completely idiotic and inaccurate. The only accurate statement in the whole commentary is "Pattaya, Thailand". I bet the commentator was not even there.
The guy certainly did NOT get beat up for "offering money for sex". No Thai woman would have reacted this way to what is a plausible, honest mistake. It's Walking Street at night after all. He must have been very persistent, or even more likely, it was a different issue altogether (loss of face or money). Moreover, the girl IS a prostitute / bargirl, rather obvious given her clothing / demeanor and place / time, and also confirmed by another poster here.
"The women show no mercy for the offender." yes, except that one of the "women" who contributed was obviously a dude (katoy). Finally, who says he's an American tourist? Given how completely wrong other commentary is, he could just as easily be a Turkish expat.
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx;1134855]I really perfer CLUBS per se too BARS, but it seems that you can find a HONEY early and SHE'S COOL ENOUGH to take in the CLUB.[/QUOTE]No need to take sand to the beach. I usually go around and get many phone numbers when I'm in the disco. Then other days that I am free I will call them early enough (before they have made plans to go out with friends) to come over and spend the night with me or for short time. Why all the capitals? You are going to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] Jackson off.
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1134855]Whattup WORLD,
Getting close to SHOWTIME, want to get little info. On the Nightlife scene. Now once again I'm a RIO vet. And If I'm reading this BOARD alright, things run a little different in the LOS. [/QUOTE]Well keep reading the board. Pattaya Is not Rio. Mongering In Patts can be a 24hr past time, especially If you get some phone numbers, the hotter girls might be In bed all day until the gogo bars or discos kick off, some guys don't go hunting until after midnight, for FL's down WS, but you can go mongering In the afternoon up soi 6, or have a soapy, or call a girl you got her number the night before to test out your matress, as they say up to you.
Songkran this year between 13 and 15 April. Does anyone know if clubs and bars are open?
I know to bring some quick drying clothes!
Cheers
[QUOTE=Bubba999;1135309]Songkran this year between 13 and 15 April. Does anyone know if clubs and bars are open?...[/QUOTE]Yep. Everything is open.
And you can add another 4 days to the festivities.
Hate songkran.
It's fun for hookers and dumbass Farangs. But not for actual people trying to work.
It makes me laugh everytime I see a man (the age of my grandpa) holding a 5 years old water gun and splashing water to everyone with his eyes out, acting like a madman. Almost slapped one last year for trying to get me wet.
That motherfucker was probably too blind to see I was in a suit and working?
If it was me, I'be burn all these fuckers and their water guns.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1135318]Hate songkran. If it was me, I'be burn all these fuckers and their water guns.[/QUOTE]Wow.
You should move back to France, Nic.
[QUOTE=Naughty; 1135389]Wow.
You should move back to France, Nic.[/QUOTE]I bought some clothes in BKK near NEP. Spilt some liquid on them and it didn't even soak in,
But sat there as a blob of water. Wiped it off with a kleenex.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1135406]I bought some clothes in BKK near NEP. Spilt some liquid on them and it didn't even soak in,
But sat there as a blob of water. Wiped it off with a kleenex. [/QUOTE]Or the new politically correct name for it. Microfiber. Just be careful not to get too close to an open flame.
[QUOTE=Bubba999; 1135309]Songkran this year between 13 and 15 April. Does anyone know if clubs and bars are open?
I know to bring some quick drying clothes!
Cheers[/QUOTE]Made the mistake to go Pattaya at songkran last year. It maybe fun for a day or two, but here it last more than a week. And these bastards put large ice blocks into the barrels. There almost no chance to escape!
[QUOTE=Naughty; 1135389]Wow.
You should move back to France, Nic. [/QUOTE]Why? Because a handful of Tourists and expat can't behave properly? And miss out on the high salary and life I have here? Thanks for the offer.
You missed the point of my post, which actually wasn't very clear (I'll give you that). So long as people stick to Prostitute Areas, I am fine, but as soon as these degenerates hit the business districts, then I have a problem.
You can agree or not, it's just my feeling. Some people think that because they are in Thailand they can behave however they want.
So, yeah, hate Songkran.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1135318]Hate songkran.
It's fun for hookers and dumbass Farangs. But not for actual people trying to work.
It makes me laugh everytime I see a man (the age of my grandpa) holding a 5 years old water gun and splashing water to everyone with his eyes out, acting like a madman. Almost slapped one last year for trying to get me wet.
That motherfucker was probably too blind to see I was in a suit and working?
If it was me, I'be burn all these fuckers and their water guns. [/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. 20 years ago it was just celebrated on just 19th April in Pattaya.all over by 6pm. Then the PM of the day, Chatchai Choonhaven, gave the Thais a 3 day Songkran holiday.all the Bangkok people came to Pattaya, and bingo. Songkran lasts from around 11th April to 19th,
Nothing worse than a wet pussy not of your own making!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1135654]Why? Because a handful of Tourists and expat can't behave properly?
So, yeah, hate Songkran.[/QUOTE]Many years ago, I even did not know what Songkran was but I have learned it the hard way, I never forget now, I came out from a office building at Silom to get a taxi, dressed in a suit and tie, holding a bunch of papers in my hands and got soaking wet in a few minutes, at first I did not where it actually came from but then I saw Thai guys trowing with water to everybody, fine with me it's ther culture but Nic is right, now you see grandpa's playing like kids with the water and the ice cubes can hit you hard on the head, a bunch of fool farang in Pattaya have extended the game from 3day till almost 10 days, so I am out of here by that time and get back later for a dry walk.
John Euro
Sorry Fellas,
Maybe I'm the exception? And I can't speak for Bangkok but as far as I'm concern (a minority) in Pattaya, the holiday isn't going anywhere and from my history the Farangs are the ones that created this mess. As far as business district I haven't seen one here because its a little here and a little there. Even without this holiday event Pattaya is a resort type place not for guys in long pants and silk shirts that is why there are so many Farangs with shorts, sandals and tank tops with beer bellies. Remember as many of noted it is a place for scums and cheap charlies only
Sure many business loose money here on this week and why knowing they are going to get wet still demand that professional still go to work with their long pants and shirt at least let them dress for the occasion. I myself don't sweat it and just go with the flow, I wear my six pocket swim trunks fake Nike workout top which drys in minutes and wrap around cycling glasses, a plastic bag for my small wallet, money, and switch to my secondary cheap cell phone also in a plastic bag. When I ride my motorbike I made sure to wear the one with the shield. Now I'm all set.
Every year I spend my Songkran Saturday with my son and his friends on the darkside in our sling loaded with big garbage can and a constant refill of blocks of ice and water arrange with my local ice factory and away we go with a few hours only to take a break to eat from time to time. Every Thai and Farangs gets it no discrimination but never straight in the face or eyes but if you got your long pants and silk shirt it double the doses nothing personal so in Pattaya stay in your car with your window close and door lock.
To me it's no big thing I enjoy the week and cycle during this time so I could just get a ice cold bath from time to time and a break from the heat. Like I said many or no one is going to agree with me but this isn't Bangkok it is Pattaya. End of story! Bring on the water! lets get ready to rumble!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1135696]Every year I spend my Songkran Saturday with my son and his friends on the darkside in our sling loaded with big garbage can and a constant refill of blocks of ice and water arrange with my local ice factory and away we go with a few hours only to take a break to eat from time to time. Every Thai and Farangs gets it no discrimination but never straight in the face or eyes but if you got your long pants and silk shirt it double the doses nothing personal so in Pattaya stay in your car with your window close and door lock.[/QUOTE]Maybe so in Pattaya, but in Bangkok, I can thankfully say most people don't behave like primates and most times respect the working bunch. If I am in a suit and some asshole hoses me down, chances are he will find the hose either up his ass or down his throat. .
I guess I'll take my umbrella to shield off the water shooters. Hopefully it bounces off of it back in their face.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1135318]Hate songkran.
If it was me, I'be burn all these fuckers and their water guns. [/QUOTE]Could not agree more NicFrenchy. I'm trying to think of somewhere to escape to cheaply during this horrible time.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1135696]Sorry Fellas,
The holiday isn't going anywhere and from my history the Farangs are the ones that created this mess. [/QUOTE]Every mess in Thailand is the doing of the Thais.
[quote=nicfrenchy;1135724]maybe so in pattaya, but in bangkok, i can thankfully say most people don't behave like primates and most times respect the working bunch. if i am in a suit and some asshole hoses me down, chances are he will find the hose either up his ass or down his throat. .[/quote]that is why i'm in pattaya and your in bangkok, even primates once a year got to let loose and maybe your bosses should loosen up the tie and suit and let you wear your speedo to work and then you can change to your suit.
good luck and stay dry?
lbm
[quote=amjeck;1135805]every mess in thailand is the doing of the thais.[/quote]that might be true to you but every article that i have read written by expat farangs and farangs living here for twenty to thirty years say otherwise. now what might be true is that we started it and they took it to a crazy level? yes when it comes to thai they do make a mess out of it and pay back is a b-t-h.
now that is out of its way. what does one do to stay dry? do i stay home? do i stay away from thailand? do i complain to the king to change it? do i stand on the corner of sukhumvit and 3rd road in my speedo with a sign complaining? me i go with the flow on this and still head down to ws, beach road, everywhere and anywhere expecting the worse and the best and carry a towel.
lbm
A quick report on a one week wander down to Pattaya to see 2 mates from the old country.
I stayed at the reliable Pasadena Lodge in LK Metro and ate mainly at the small but excellent Thai place in Soi Buakhao on the same side of the road as Oasis but between there and Club Blu. I also used Marine Seafood off WS and the Beer Garden a couple of times each both places providing good quality food at reasonable prices.
I visited many Go-go bars including the new ones in LK and WS. The most disappointing to us was Alcatraz in terms of atomoshpere. Plenty of talent to choose from and something to suit most tastes could be found in all the places we went, Kiss, MASH, Office, Oasis and Papayago locally and Secrets, Peppermint, Iron Club, Casanovy and Baccara in WS.
On entering some clubs we found on some nights them virtually empty and on others quite busy there seeming to be no real pattern.
I had 3 in-call visits from 3 different girls from Dream Teen all who spent 2 hours giving JCL an early afternoon delight and relaxation. All 3 girls provided 2 pops and an agreeable massage in between.
I BF'the a spinner out of Secrets for the first 2 nights on the trot, who was a top performer (no A) she kept on saying she just wanted to 'make me happy' which she most certainly did. She even stayed until midday on both occasions rather than leave at 7am, as agreed, so an extra pop was accomplished before brunch.
I also BF'the the same girl from Papayago but on 2 different days, including my last night, who was also most accommodating towards JCL and provided an enthusiastic and intense series of shagging performances, every time ended covered in sweat and breathing hard, always a good sign for me. She worked the afternoon shift and the BF was 350 THB, a bargain in my book and a sweety to boot.
I also BF'the 1 night from Casanovy, absolute cracking figure but had attitude which meant she was shown the door at 5am and I only paid her 1000 and not the agreed 2000 THB, it was previously agreed she would stay until 10am.
The other BF was from Baccara and was also a cracker and did the best BBBJ of the trip (twice) and a third pop before departing. In all I paid 2000 THB for LT except for the Casanovy as mentioned and the girl from Papayago was 1500.
All in all a good week and there being plenty of girls compared to mongers which is always a bonus, next Patts trip due in June / July.
Taking a newbie to BKK for a w / e in 2 weeks and will report on that after.
[quote=littlebigman;1135923]now that is out of its way. what does one do to stay dry? do i stay home? do i stay away from thailand? do i complain to the king to change it? do i stand on the corner of sukhumvit and 3rd road in my speedo with a sign complaining? me i go with the flow on this and still head down to ws, beach road, everywhere and anywhere expecting the worse and the best and carry a towel.[/quote]complain to the king. lol. i'm sure he'd be all ears.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1136162]Complain to the King. LOL. I'm sure he'd be all ears.[/QUOTE]PP,
Exactly my point!
LBM
In my last visit in Pattaya, I went 3 times in Devil's Den.
I try some new ladies Dew-Alyssa and Wan-Dar but their service was not satisfactory!
Lesbian show is very fake and cold and they complained for the long anal penetration.
In my last visit I don't try new ladies but I take again Ning and Rain, for me the best ladies in Devil's Den!
Very hot FS and Lesbian they have done everything I wanted.
Soi6:
Full Moon Bar: I try Dia, young lady normal FS and anal sex 1000b and 300b for room (the rooms in this bar is very nice, big and clean)
Red poin bar: Nim, she have 20years old. Very hot deepthroat and FS with anal 1000b and 300b for room.
Viking Bar: the good FS with anal 1000b and 300b for room
[QUOTE=Woody53;1135627]Made the mistake to go Pattaya at songkran last year. It maybe fun for a day or two, but here it last more than a week. And these bastards put large ice blocks into the barrels. There almost no chance to escape![/QUOTE]Funny, my memory of the Song Krang festival is totally different. My girl was all excites about the festival and helped me pick out my shirt. We bought all the gear. Water guns, buckets, and clay / ash crap to spread on faces. Went out for about 2 hours in the afternoon. Be sure time it late (delay by going for late lunch or better yet a hangover induced sleepin). With the hot sun gone in the late afternoon, she jumped at my offer to take her home. In the tuk-tuk (never use except for song krang) we got soaked more and more and the colder she got. Back at the condo, I said I wanted a hot bath to warm up in. Offered to let her join me since she was shivering. Of course she takes me up on the offer. Repeated every day of Song Krang. She will get cold and will jump at every opportunity to warm up. Bath, bed, shower. Yeah, nice memories getting my girl in the tub at 5pm followed closely by some action under the sheets. I love Song Krang. I guess it's always what you make of it.
[QUOTE=Christian G; 1136411]In my last visit in Pattaya, I went 3 times in Devil's Den.
I try some new ladies Dew-Alyssa and Wan-Dar but their service was not satisfactory!
Lesbian show is very fake and cold and they complained for the long anal penetration.
In my last visit I don't try new ladies but I take again Ning and Rain, for me the best ladies in Devil's Den!
Very hot FS and Lesbian they have done everything I wanted. [/QUOTE]Interesting. I did a Dew-Wan combo in November so they cannot be that new. They did not have any problem with long anal and in fact Dew really seemed to enjoy it. This was the turning point of my trip that honestly did not start well with some girls complaining that I was too large for regular sex never mind anal. YMMV.
Damn though, Ning and Rain appear to have no rules and they are very cute. It is too bad that they weren't in the line-up when I made my visit.
[QUOTE=Edward M;1136693]I did a Dew-Wan combo in November so they cannot be that new.[/QUOTE]That would have been not long after Dew started. I tried her back around then and was disappointed. Not up to the usual DD standard of service, I thought. But then there's been a lot of turnover there lately, with many of the excellent old lineup (Jar, Bang etc.) moving on. I hope it's temporary, but for me the place hasn't been quite the same since.
[QUOTE=Christian G; 1136411]In my last visit in Pattaya, I went 3 times in Devil's Den.
I try some new ladies Dew-Alyssa and Wan-Dar but their service was not satisfactory!
Lesbian show is very fake and cold and they complained for the long anal penetration.
In my last visit I don't try new ladies but I take again Ning and Rain, for me the best ladies in Devil's Den!
Very hot FS and Lesbian they have done everything I wanted.
Soi6:
Full Moon Bar: I try Dia, young lady normal FS and anal sex 1000b and 300b for room (the rooms in this bar is very nice, big and clean)
Red poin bar: Nim, she have 20years old. Very hot deepthroat and FS with anal 1000b and 300b for room.
Viking Bar: the good FS with anal 1000b and 300b for room[/QUOTE]Agree to the places, but pricing should be 700 +300. 100o is ripping you off!
[QUOTE=Orange Crust;1136578]Funny, my memory of the Song Krang festival is totally different. My girl was all excites about the festival and helped me pick out my shirt. We bought all the gear. Water guns, buckets, and clay / ash crap to spread on faces. Went out for about 2 hours in the afternoon. Be sure time it late (delay by going for late lunch or better yet a hangover induced sleepin). With the hot sun gone in the late afternoon, she jumped at my offer to take her home. In the tuk-tuk (never use except for song krang) we got soaked more and more and the colder she got. Back at the condo, I said I wanted a hot bath to warm up in. Offered to let her join me since she was shivering. Of course she takes me up on the offer. Repeated every day of Song Krang. She will get cold and will jump at every opportunity to warm up. Bath, bed, shower. Yeah, nice memories getting my girl in the tub at 5pm followed closely by some action under the sheets. I love Song Krang. I guess it's always what you make of it.[/QUOTE]Songraan sux
[QUOTE=Christian G; 1136411]Soi6:
Full Moon Bar: I try Dia, young lady normal FS and anal sex 1000b and 300b for room (the rooms in this bar is very nice, big and clean)
Red poin bar: Nim, she have 20years old. Very hot deepthroat and FS with anal 1000b and 300b for room.
Viking Bar: the good FS with anal 1000b and 300b for room[/QUOTE]I have never sessioned on Soi 6 but every time I have been there I have been given a price of 1000 all in. 700 girl and 300 room with no additional for anal.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1135724]Maybe so in Pattaya, but in Bangkok, I can thankfully say most people don't behave like primates and most times respect the working bunch. If I am in a suit and some asshole hoses me down, chances are he will find the hose either up his ass or down his throat. .[/QUOTE]What a load of dung. If you did this, you would end up floating in a khlong.
Songkran is not a European holiday. It's not a farang, a tourist, or a hooker holiday. It's a Thai holiday. You stay in Thailand so you can "make loads of money" and have sex with Thai girls. If you hate it so much, just arrange to stay home or pay some minders some of the big bucks you claim to earn to keep you dry and bring your car right up to the door and hold a big umbrella up for you.
You spew this crap every year. It's not like it's a big secret that this will happen on a certain day or two each year. You are the outsider, so adapt.
What a crybaby.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1136829]I have never sessioned on Soi 6 but every time I have been there I have been given a price of 1000 all in. 700 girl and 300 room with no additional for anal.[/QUOTE]I've been quoted 1000 +300 (room) a few times and the girl didn't budge on price. Always the girl was one of or all of: hot, young, new to biz.
I can easily see prices going to 1000ST on soi 6 in next year or two. Lot more japs and koreans on this road than ever before.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1135923]That might be true to you but every article that I have read written by Expat Farangs and Farangs living here for twenty to thirty years say otherwise. Now what might be true is that we started it and they took it to a crazy level? Yes when it comes to Thai they do make a mess out of it and pay back is a b-t-h.[/QUOTE]The mess is all over Thailand during this holiday. Check out "papadaeng" in Bangkok. I'm pretty sure no farangs started that "mess".
Anyhow, the best thing to do if you don't like this type of thing is to leave SE Asia during this time.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1136930]I've been quoted 1000 +300 (room) a few times and the girl didn't budge on price. Always the girl was one of or all of: hot, young, new to biz.[/QUOTE]I've been quoted 1000 maybe two or three times at Clansman by Korat brats. Otherwise never any discussion. Usually the girl is one of or all of: hot, young, new to biz.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1136979]I've been quoted 1000 maybe two or three times at Clansman by Korat brats.[/QUOTE]I used to go to Clansman just for the good scotch whisky, but I did notice that they seem to have a new batch of rather nice looking young girls. Would have pursued it further but got the impression that they had a bit of an attitude, and that's not what I come to Soi 6 for.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1136979]I've been quoted 1000 maybe two or three times at Clansman by Korat brats. Otherwise never any discussion. Usually the girl is one of or all of: hot, young, new to biz.[/QUOTE]I've haven't been quoted 1000 at Clansman. It was at some of the other dive bars. I've easily taken over a hundred girls out of soi 6 in the last 5 years or so. So I guess a few quoting 1000 isn't the end of the world, but it's much more difficult to get 500ST like before. Can anybody get 500ST? And I don't mean from an old dog!
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1137262]I've haven't been quoted 1000 at Clansman. It was at some of the other dive bars. I've easily taken over a hundred girls out of soi 6 in the last 5 years or so. So I guess a few quoting 1000 isn't the end of the world, but it's much more difficult to get 500ST like before. Can anybody get 500ST? And I don't mean from an old dog![/QUOTE]In the past couple of years many of the soi 6 bars seem to only go for 700b, If this carries on soon the new going rate will be 1, 000b.
I had been coming to this place at least four times per year from 2006 until 2010 when I got my own place here. You would think I would have it licked by now. But being here constantly has thoroughly confused the shit out of me. Nothing is as it seems. Pros have turned to non-pros, non-pros want to be pros, women you think have always been non-pros are ex-pros turned semi-pros, bar girls beg to fuck you for free, some hookers turn their noses up at you. I think I was better off popping up occasionally, paying my 1000 baht / day for a known pro, and calling it a trip.
One pro / acquaintance that I have has recently turned non-pro. Before she was working the discos. I would say we are pretty much friends and are not only on a business level. We hang out and go eat together, go to the beach and whatever else with no sex. Then whenever she stays the night and we fuck I give her 1000 baht the next day. She had a job in Bangkok with her family but would come out here every now and then. Now she has a regular job here as a cashier at a massage parlor. I didn't ask her how much she makes, but of course we can assume it's next to nothing. I did ask one of the ladies there how much they get paid doing massages and she said they get 40% and the house gets 60%. So for a 200 baht / hour foot massage they get 80 baht. Now, since this acquaintance of mine has dropped out of the game do I still give her money when we fuck or is it freebie city from here on out?
I met a lady on TLL last month. She has been married to a guy in the Thai Army who she hasn't seen in years since she was 18 or so. Now she is 35 and runs a bar over near the Big Buddha. Her tits are so fucking big that she does not even know what size bra she wears. I looked inside but there is nothing there. She said that she can not buy bras in Thailand because they are not big enough. The ones she have now some lady brought from Norway for her. But anyway.
Since I first started talking to her online she would flat out say how horny she was, how wet she was, and how much she wanted to fuck me. And she always emphasized that she did not want any money. She just wanted to fuck. So I gave her a few chances but because she works at the bar and finishes late nothing was ever able to materialize because I'm usually already with someone by the time she gets off. But still, she would not stop bugging me; texts, calls, instant messages. Finally she had a day off and I went to the bar to meet her and she followed me back to my place.
At first she was a little sheepish but finally loosened up. I don't know when the last time she had dick was. I asked her if she ever goes with the customers from the bar and she said it depends but hardly ever. We did anal and everything else that day. When I finally coaxed her to leave later on that night by telling her I was going out with my friends (which was true) she forgot her cell phone. I did not even realize it until about an hour later when I made up the bed and was ready to walk out. I figured I would just drop it by the bar. When I got downstairs she was waiting outside. We have a security door and she could not remember the room number to call up. I gave her the phone and we both rode off.
Ever since that day it has still been the same thing. She keeps begging me for sex. Would anyone like to take her off my hands? LOL.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1137406]Now, since this acquaintance of mine has dropped out of the game do I still give her money when we fuck or is it freebie city from here on out?[/QUOTE]If I were you, I would still give her the 1, 000. But it is all in the way you present it.
I have also a girl who comes to have sex (non-pro) and I always give her money but I tell her it is for her to buy "sexy lingerie" and she always is happy with that.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1137412]Ever since that day it has still been the same thing. She keeps begging me for sex. Would anyone like to take her off my hands? LOL.[/QUOTE]Very interesting. I think you will get about 1, 000 PMs for this one. I would not mind bonking her. .
I met a pharmacist at a well-known soi last month. She makes 15K baht / month plus a 600 baht bonus if she does not take her guaranteed 2 days off. Since then I would pop in to see her at least once-a-week. We would trade SMS and she would call me sometimes. She would always want to go get drinks with me after work, but she doesn't close the pharmacy until 2am and I am usually knee deep by then. Finally Wednesday I promised her that I would see her after work. I asked her what she liked to drink because I would go to the store right away to buy it. She said Bacardi Breezers. So I went to Carrefour and bought 2 4-packs for 192 baht each, a 70cl bottle of Sang Som for 200, a 70cl bottle of Blend 285, 4 bottles of Heineken, and a 6-pack of Coca-Cola to stock my bar. Everything together set me back 1000 baht.
About 11pm I went to Beach Road and got a lay for 300 baht so my loins would already be satisfied in case the pharmacist wasn't putting out that night. At 140am she called to say she was at the 7/11 up the street. I jumped on my motorbike and went to get her. That night she drank a total of 3 Breezers while we watched a movie. I didn't drink anything.
Out of the blue she asked me if I wanted boom-boom with her. Was that a trick question or what? Do I say yes and appear like the typical farang or do I say no and miss out on some pussy that I have been waiting over a month to get? Of course I straddled the fence and avoided a direct answer. I asked why and she said because she was on her period. So if I wanted boom-boom she would have to go to the store to get some little yellow thing that women use when they are on their period to put up in her so the blood would not come out while we were doing boom-boom.
I told her that we would not be needing the little yellow thing because if pigs can fuck through mud then I can fuck through blood. Then she went on to say how I am different from most farang. She said many guys go into the pharmacy and tell her that they like her and ask her to go back to their room. But I only say I like her and never ask her to come to my room. So naturally I asked her,"Do you go with them?" Her reply was,"Sometimes." You could have knocked me over with a feather. Here I am thinking this chick who makes 15K at the pharmacy was full non-pro.
Then the kicker. She told me that when she first came to Pattaya she worked the pharmacy from x to y time and the bar from y to z time. And there was something in there about Hard Rock Cafe. She said one day 2 years ago her boss from the pharmacy went and bought her out of the bar for 4, 500 baht (are they indebted and can't leave or something?) and since she has been full time at the pharmacy.
Now you know what the big thing on my mind was. Ex-bar girl, semi-pro; is she expecting any money from me? Because I had been handling this as a non-pro situation for the past month and a half. We ended up having a great session and no blood was spilled (literally). The next morning at 11 I was supposed to take her to her room to change her clothes and on to work for noon, but I had just fallen asleep 2 hours earlier and was finding it hard to get up. She finally just left on her own at 1055 because she thought she would be late. Then yesterday at 5pm she sent me an SMS saying,"today you come to see me or not like me now?" I better go recharge my credits so I can answer her!
I have been doing a lot of non-pro lately and the thing that really got me thinking was that absolutely none of them asked for condom. When things were hot and juicy, they had no second thoughts about fucking immediately. Bareback.
Most times I had to stop them and insist on rubber.
And as you repeat with a Gal, she then asks "why you need?" you have other lady?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1137426]I have been doing a lot of non-pro lately and the thing that really got me thinking was that absolutely none of them asked for condom.[/QUOTE]Shit. A lot of the pros ask for one but they really don't mean it. I like to joke with them and tell them that we do not need because we can not make a baby with condom. Then right before the penetration starts I show them that I have one.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1124632]She told me the whole story between her and her husband and it was not all good. He was 30 years older than her and had knocked some chick up and the baby had died. She still wasn't permanent in Europe yet because it takes 5 years. She didn't want to stay with him but she didn't want to come back to Thailand to live either because she wouldn't make much money. We fell off to sleep and I woke up at 12:45 to her talking to her friend on the phone telling her how to get to my place. She got up, took a shower, and got dressed. She kissed me goodbye and said she would call me later. I told her that she didn't even have my phone number. We exchanged numbers and she left. One hour later I got a call from her phone, but it was her friend calling to get my wingman's number. I don't know how his situation turned out but I was happy overall with how things ended up for me. Sometimes patience is the key.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1125239]At 6am the married girl called and said she wanted to come over. So after session, sleeping all day, and another session her friend picked her up to go pack or something. They are picking me up later to go to the market and bowling. This morning her friend told me never to worry about money with them. They don't mind paying for things. If I am cool with them, then they are cool with me. The friend was supposed to be on vacation but I guess they called her to come in tomorrow because that ship is coming. She was supposed to take my girl to the airport in BKK in the morning. She asked me if I would take her car and drive my girl to BKK tomorrow but I told her that I have to go to the airport tomorrow afternoon my damn self to go to Chiang Mai. So she will just have to take a taxi. I love this fuckin place.[/QUOTE]A week after she went to Europe she ended up falling out with her husband and returning to Thailand. She is my #1 girl right now. She told me,"I don't care if you fuck other girls, but your heart is mine." She still refuses to let me pay for ANYTHING when we are together. The other night she bought a toothbrush to leave over here. She told me to make sure I put it up for her when other women come over. I told her that I would just leave it in the holder. She said that wasn't a good idea because her cousin went to some guy's place and used his girlfriend's toothbrush to clean her feet with and she didn't want to suffer the same fate.
And you know women can only get along for so long. When we woke up the other morning she had trouble with her friend. She says since she has been staying at her house she always tries to control her. When she came back from Europe she gave her 9K to pay her house and 20K (I actually think the 9K was part of the 20K.) She said she is running out of money but has to get her own place. She went and found a place that same day and said she would have to buy a lot of stuff for it. She said she wants to invest her money together with her friend in a restaurant or bar or something. As if Pattaya needs another of either.
[quote=mr enternational;1137436]a week after she went to europe she ended up falling out with her husband and returning to thailand. she is my #1 girl right now. she told me,"i don't care if you fuck other girls, but your heart is mine." she still refuses to let me pay for anything when we are together.[/quote]careful with these stories. my guess is soon some people will complain to the management of isg that the pattaya forums are flooded with bs talk and that they come only to read about st prices and prostitutes.
soon, a new section will be created: pattaya expats and you will be segregated there lol.
btw, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] pattaya is still open and there are a few cuties ready to blow you for 700. they get naked and don't mind a lot of touch-play. .
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1137406]I had been coming to this place at least four times per year from 2006 until 2010 when I got my own place here. You would think I would have it licked by now. But being here constantly has thoroughly confused the shit out of me. Nothing is as it seems. Pros have turned to non-pros, non-pros want to be pros, women you think have always been non-pros are ex-pros turned semi-pros, bar girls beg to fuck you for free, some hookers turn their noses up at you. I think I was better off popping up occasionally, paying my 1000 baht / day for a known pro, and calling it a trip.[/QUOTE]I've been going through the same stuff. It seems to get more confusing the longer you're here and the further you get away from the tourist experience.
[QUOTE=Michi;1136746]Agree to the places, but pricing should be 700 +300. 100o is ripping you off![/QUOTE]When I stay in Pattaya I went in soi6 many times and everytimes I ask first about anal sex, and all ladies in the soi told me 700+300 for suck and FS and 1000+300 is the price if you want anal sex.
Same in beach road, many ladies ask a little tip for do anal sex.
[QUOTE=Edward M; 1136693]Interesting. I did a Dew-Wan combo in November so they cannot be that new. They did not have any problem with long anal and in fact Dew really seemed to enjoy it. This was the turning point of my trip that honestly did not start well with some girls complaining that I was too large for regular sex never mind anal. YMMV.
Damn though, Ning and Rain appear to have no rules and they are very cute. It is too bad that they weren't in the line-up when I made my visit.[/QUOTE]I don't know. When I try Dew-Alyssa and Wan-Dar them make me very boring and not fun.
I think the previaus staff was better. I miss ladies same: Rose, Jar, Joy and Bang.
In April I will come back Pattaya for 2 weeks but the only girls that I will choose again are Ning, Rain and Cake
[QUOTE=Jerboa;1137404]In the past couple of years many of the soi 6 bars seem to only go for 700b, If this carries on soon the new going rate will be 1, 000b.[/QUOTE]I agree, it's just a matter of time. I've even been quoted 1000ST from beach road girls and 1500ST from freelancers on walking. I never heard this shit 1. 5 years ago or earlier!
I'm shocked some of you pay more than 1000 thb ST.
Really I am. Soi 6 is the place to go
Soi 6 I say to the girls 500 thb include Bar Fine? And 9 times out of 10 they say yes and go upstairs.
And in the GoGO bars I buy Lady Drink and then chat with them and say 700 thb everything include fine.
During the daytime I try and chat up locals and try to get freebies...
[QUOTE=Asheron; 1137692]I'm shocked some of you pay more than 1000 thb ST.
Really I am. Soi 6 is the place to go.
Soi 6 I say to the girls 500 thb include Bar Fine? And 9 times out of 10 they say yes and go upstairs.
And in the GoGO bars I buy Lady Drink and then chat with them and say 700 thb everything include fine.
During the daytime I try and chat up locals and try to get freebies. [/QUOTE]How many gogo girls have you got for 700b?
[QUOTE=Asheron;1137692]...And in the GoGO bars I buy Lady Drink and then chat with them and say 700 thb everything include fine...[/QUOTE]So if the bar fine is 600 baht, the go-go girls go with you for 100 baht.
Yeah, right.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1137406]I had been coming to this place at least four times per year from 2006 until 2010 when I got my own place here. You would think I would have it licked by now. But being here constantly has thoroughly confused the shit out of me. Nothing is as it seems. Pros have turned to non-pros, non-pros want to be pros, women you think have always been non-pros are ex-pros turned semi-pros, bar girls beg to fuck you for free, some hookers turn their noses up at you. I think I was better off popping up occasionally, paying my 1000 baht / day for a known pro, and calling it a trip.
One pro / acquaintance that I have has recently turned non-pro. Before she was working the discos. I would say we are pretty much friends and are not only on a business level. We hang out and go eat together, go to the beach and whatever else with no sex. Then whenever she stays the night and we fuck I give her 1000 baht the next day. She had a job in Bangkok with her family but would come out here every now and then. Now she has a regular job here as a cashier at a massage parlor. I didn't ask her how much she makes, but of course we can assume it's next to nothing. I did ask one of the ladies there how much they get paid doing massages and she said they get 40% and the house gets 60. So for a 200 baht / hour foot massage they get 80 baht. Now, since this acquaintance of mine has dropped out of the game do I still give her money when we fuck or is it freebie city from here on out? [/QUOTE]Come on pal, do you need guidance on that one? They don't look on it as "paid sex". They see it as they "take care you" and they expect you to "take care" in return. Look on it as if each of you are addressing each others needs!
[QUOTE=Asheron;1137692]Soi 6 I say to the girls 500 thb include Bar Fine? And 9 times out of 10 they say yes and go upstairs. And in the GoGO bars I buy Lady Drink and then chat with them and say 700 thb everything include fine. During the daytime I try and chat up locals and try to get freebies...[/QUOTE]I think it's 9 times out of ten they look at you and laugh. Amazing Thailand!
[QUOTE=Asheron; 1137692]Soi 6 I say to the girls 500 thb include Bar Fine? And 9 times out of 10 they say yes and go upstairs.
And in the GoGO bars I buy Lady Drink and then chat with them and say 700 thb everything include fine. [/QUOTE]Wow, I'm shocked at how cheap some people are. 500 thb including Bar Fine? Please post pictures of the girls who accept these rates, I'd be curious to see their beauty
[QUOTE=Asheron;1137692]Soi 6 I say to the girls 500 thb include Bar Fine? And 9 times out of 10 they say yes and go upstairs.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I can't believe. 500thb include bar fine. It's impossible!
Ladies go upstair for only 200thb. Maybe 20years ago!
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1137669]I agree, it's just a matter of time. I've even been quoted 1000ST from beach road girls and 1500ST from freelancers on walking. I never heard this shit 1. 5 years ago or earlier![/QUOTE]This has been my experience as well. I find whenever a girl on Walking Street or the disco starts saying,"How much you give me?" they are about to ask for at least 1500 ST and things are going to go awry. But when they do not mention money things work out smoothly. For instance the night before last I was going down Walking Street and started talking to a girl who had a 1960s bouffant hairdo and braces. We talked for about 10 minutes, I got her phone number, and told her I would call her later. When I got to my motorbike I called her and told her to come to Beach Road and she would see me. She got there, we hopped on my motorbike and came to my place. It was a great night. The next morning I told her to look in the drawer where I always keep the 1000 baht for LTers. We were both happy campers never having discussed money and she sent me an SMS later in the day saying,"I miss you tomuch nint (nice?) to see you please take care for you ok. Think (Thank) you for make me happy take. Care you good any time becarful ok."
So I am tired of Bangkok and go down to Pattaya for a few days. Rttf they say, but after reading 12 pages back on this forum I find very little of interest. Yes maybe they should split up this thread and make one thread for info, and one for ME's and NF's tales of what their girlfriends did yesterday (just kidding, I really like you guys. LOL!) Anyway, using Google I find some recommended gogo-bars, and then I hit the streets. My first impression: Mass tourism! What are all these tourists doing here? If you are not mongering there are other places in Thailand with better beaches. Very annoying with all these slow moving shoppers and kids on the side-walks.
First nite is Walking street and first stop Casanovy (11 pm) , a friendly place with some nude dancers and some in bikini. A place myself close to the nudies, one them looks at me repeatedly and smiles (not very common in these types of gogo-bars). I decide to come back later after having a look at some other bars. Before I go a see something shocking, a customer (Korean?) give one of the bikini dancers on stage a money-note. I cannot see (the note is flipped) if it's a 100 or a 1000 but it looks mostly like a 1000. The girl gets very happy and bends down to thank him. He says nothing and looks very serious and then he leaves the bar (not taking any girl with him). Incredible! Not strange that some girls are reluctant to leave the bar when they make big money this easy way. And the guy? Why? I think for myself: he impotent, do he never take girls, instead just give them money because he has nothing else to do. I look around and see that some, but not all, of the dancers have wads of money in belts at theirs wrists. I leave and go to this small side alley, soi 14 or 15. Lots of interesting gogo-bars there, I take a look into these: Baby Dolls, Sapphire, Misty, Angel Witch. They all seems perfectly ok and they have shows like girls bathing each other. But none of them especially interesting, although recommended if you don't mind the relative high prices. I then walk to Soi Diamond, aggressive touts outside the bars, seems like rip-off places. I go away. Iron and Baccara on the main walking streets seems to be ok places but even more expensive. Not worth it!
The beer bars in this area don't look that interesting, although there are a few nice girls around. The streetwalkers? I don't know. Some of them look good, but how is the price / quality ratio? And what about safety?
Then, as planned, I go back to Casanovy. I wave to the nude dancer girl I like and she comes down immediately and sits beside me. Then she discovers she has nothing on and find some bikini to put on. LOL! Yes, she is really friendly and not spoiled. Only average looking: 6 and a half in my book. I ask prices. She says 1000 BF and LT 2000. That means the BF is higher than the regular 600 (because she's a nude dancer) but the LT price is reasonably so I go with her. She seems very happy. Interesting enough she don't have money-wads at her wrists like some of the other dancers. Straight back at my hotel it's the normal procedure: kissing on mouth (but not really dfk) BBBJ and FS (different positions). I also DATY her a bit, but no enthusiasm from her for that, she doesn't seem horny. After we sleep very good before having another go at noon the next say. Then we go to eat."Do you want me to stay more with you do you want me to go back?" she asks. I say I will be busy using the internet today so I don't have time. Although she is very nice to me she isn't that good in bed (only average) so I find her a bit boring. Of course I could have stayed with her for days (for 2000 a day that could have been an option). But I have to research Pattaya more, tomorrow it's the other areas.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1137727]So if the bar fine is 600 baht, the go-go girls go with you for 100 baht.
Yeah, right.[/QUOTE]The average bar fine in Pattaya is much cheaper than in Bangkok: not more than 300 baht usually.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1137859]This has been my experience as well. I find whenever a girl on Walking Street or the disco starts saying,"How much you give me?" they are about to ask for at least 1500 ST and things are going to go awry. But when they do not mention money things work out smoothly. For instance the night before last I was going down Walking Street and started talking to a girl who had a 1960s bouffant hairdo and braces. We talked for about 10 minutes, I got her phone number, and told her I would call her later. When I got to my motorbike I called her and told her to come to Beach Road and she would see me. She got there, we hopped on my motorbike and came to my place. It was a great night. The next morning I told her to look in the drawer where I always keep the 1000 baht for LTers. We were both happy campers never having discussed money and she sent me an SMS later in the day saying,"I miss you tomuch nint (nice?) to see you please take care for you ok. Think (Thank) you for make me happy take. Care you good any time becarful ok."[/QUOTE]I can only agree with you. Moreover the girls who don't mention money things often provide a better experience. The risk with girls putting much attention on money is that they may also calculate how little they can dare to give you for the price.
[QUOTE=John Traveller;1137933]Then, as planned, I go back to Casanovy. I wave to the nude dancer girl I like and she comes down immediately and sits beside me. Then she discovers she has nothing on and find some bikini to put on. LOL! Yes, she is really friendly and not spoiled. Only average looking: 6 and a half in my book. I ask prices. She says 1000 BF and LT 2000. That means the BF is higher than the regular 600 (because she's a nude dancer) but the LT price is reasonably so I go with her. She seems very happy. Interesting enough she don't have money-wads at her wrists like some of the other dancers. Straight back at my hotel it's the normal procedure: kissing on mouth (but not really dfk) BBBJ and FS (different positions). I also DATY her a bit, but no enthusiasm from her for that, she doesn't seem horny. After we sleep very good before having another go at noon the next say. Then we go to eat."Do you want me to stay more with you do you want me to go back?" she asks. I say I will be busy using the internet today so I don't have time. Although she is very nice to me she isn't that good in bed (only average) so I find her a bit boring. Of course I could have stayed with her for days (for 2000 a day that could have been an option). But I have to research Pattaya more, tomorrow it's the other areas.[/QUOTE]Hey John, thanks for the honest report. You may have left out some details but as a word of advice I would suggest that you took the girl too soon. I think if you took the time to buy her a drink, felt her up (I would have told her to stay naked and mentioned that all time in the hotel would be naked too but that is just me) , and did some DFK in the bar. This would have accomplished two things. You could have gauged her interest and made her work a bit for your attention. People do not value things they get without work.
EXTRA: I forgot this in my last report,"First day in Pattaya": When I Bf Ee (the girls name, spelling?) , the mamasan comes along and says that I should give the 2000 to her (the mamasan) right there and then. Of course I reply no to this and say that I will give Ee the money afterwards. The mamasan then says ok.
BACK TO "NOW": In the afternoon on my second day in Pattaya I go to the beach and take a swim. After all I am in a beach resort! And they have been so nice to us swimmers to give us special zones in the water to be in so we don't get killed by the motorized water scooters. Fantastic.
Then at 8 I hit Soi Pattayaland 2 (the only of the Pattayaland sois that have several venues for straight people). This soi is also known as soi 13/4. I go into Classroom. A small cosy place, reminds me of some lower-priced places in PI. 7 girls of stage (and others sitting around) , most of them a bit to fat for my taste, but a few nice on also. They move slowly to some old rock and pop music And they all seem friendly and casual, nothing like Walking Street here! Much lower prices for drinks. And if you order a soft drink you get in fact the whole bottle, not just some drops sprinkled of ice cubes. After a while I pay my check-bin and leave. The waitress gets annoyed when I don't give any tip. Pattayaland 2 seems like an ok street, but watch where you go, there are all kinds of places here!
I head up Second Road which also have a few go-go bars and several beer-bars. Then down soi 8 towards Beach Road. This street is really packed, rowdy places and rowdy people! Lots of small beer bars where the employees stop me and grab my hand, trying to get me into their place. But I just walk on. Some of the beer bars looks ok, but I want the gogo-bars. I go into Silver Star, looks good. Then I continue up to Soi 7 and go into Silver Star 2. This place I like, the best I visit this evening. Some nice girls around and a casual atmosphere. Sois 7 and 8 can of course be recommended for their low prices and easygoing atmosphere, but surely, the girls are generally less pretty than on Walking street. The Gogo-bars often have shows with girls bathing each others.
Long walk along Beach Road up to Soi 6. (Around 10 pm) This street has lots of small places, mainly indoor beer bars, also a few gogo's. Kisskool seems to be the best of them, but not many dancers there. Parallel to Soi 6 is soi 6/1. This narrow alley seems a bit suspect, lots of very small places (some kind of "bars") , but I don't really know if which kind. At least some of them with lady-boys. Watch out in this area!
Down Beach road again. I check out Worldwide (nearby soi 8) and Tahitian Queen (nearby soi 13). Both good places with some beautiful girls, but now it's getting late and difficult to find any place to sit. Outside along the waterfront there are now some streetwalkers.
Then in the end I want to go to Soi LK-Metro. But not easy to find. To find it first go to Second Road, then go east along soi 13 (aka Soi Diana). After a while (before you come to Soi Bukhao) turn left and you're there. I walk into Champagne. It's past midnight, and the bar is totally full. But it seems like a good place, so I wait for a chair to be available. The girls here are really good looking, but still they seem casual and the drinks prices are also reasonable. I see a Russian giving tips to two dancers. IMO ridiculous! Of course it's up to him how he uses his money. The problem (for other customers) is the effect this have on the dancers. They will be less interested to go with customers for sex and demand higher pay for it, or maybe not go at all. This is of course different from tipping a waitress, a bellboy at your hotel, a taxi driver etc. Because you give them money for their only task. But dancers at go-go's have two task, if they get enough money from one (dancing) they will loose interest for the other (sex). And we will end up with two groups, beautiful dancers and less beautiful sex workers. The tippers don't care about that, probably because they don't take dancers to their hotel, they just get drunk and then give money to show their superiority / get attention or whatever. I don't know, I'm just giving some thoughts here. Anyway, after staying a while at Champagne and go to quickly check out some other bars at Soi LK. They are also good, and it's easy to find a place to sit. IMO LK seems to be the best alternative in Pattaya when it comes to go-go-bars taking up a middle ground between pricey Walking Street and the variable quality of sois 6, 7.8 and PL2.
That's all from me in Pattaya, I checked out all areas in just two nights, pretty efficient, yeah?
[QUOTE=Pro Fesseur;1137962]The average bar fine in Pattaya is much cheaper than in Bangkok: not more than 300 baht usually.[/QUOTE]For the beer bars, yes, but not the go-go bars in Pattaya, which average 600 baht, up to 1000 baht in some spots at the peak of high season, e.g., New Years Eve.
Are the all the Bars similar to Fields in AC, that you can also Bar fine the waitresses?
Curious. I'm going in 6 weeks.
Regards,
Aj
[QUOTE=John Traveller; 1138057]EXTRA: I forgot this in my last report,"First day in Pattaya": When I Bf Ee (the girls name, spelling?) , the mamasan comes along and says that I should give the 2000 to her (the mamasan) right there and then. Of course I reply no to this and say that I will give Ee the money afterwards. The mamasan then says ok.
BACK TO "NOW": In the afternoon on my second day in Pattaya I go to the beach and take a swim. After all I am in a beach resort! And they have been so nice to us swimmers to give us special zones in the water to be in so we don't get killed by the motorized water scooters. Fantastic. [/QUOTE]You swam in Pattaya? Granted my last time there was about 13 years ago, but the water was so polluted it was even painful to watch. Have they really cleaned the beaches?
[QUOTE=Xpartan;1138112]Have they really cleaned the beaches?[/QUOTE]Nope. But some people still swim, as Pattaya might be "cleaner" than their home beach back on the Black Sea.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;1138112]You swam in Pattaya? Granted my last time there was about 13 years ago, but the water was so polluted it was even painful to watch. Have they really cleaned the beaches?[/QUOTE]I personally prefer Jomtien Beach, the next beach south of Pattaya. Very little pollution and always some nude action in the peak seasons.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1138155]I personally prefer Jomtien Beach, the next beach south of Pattaya. Very little pollution and always some nude action in the peak seasons.[/QUOTE]I took in alot of Finnish grannie boobs@Hat Jomtien this high season.
Met this chick in the disco last night. 1.70m 60kg. Not usually my type but she approached me. 23 year old university student / receptionist from Bangkok. She has a break from school until after Songkran. No kids. Knew absolutely nothing about Pattaya. She was with her sister who owns a hair salon here. As usual no money discussed. I got her back to the crib and saw she had the pussy hole of a horse. It was literally the biggest I have ever seen. I shouted out hello into her pussy thinking I would hear an echo. Instead, somebody yelled back,"Damn the greetings. Get me the fuck out of here."
Fucking her I could not feel a damn thing. She was moaning and groaning and I told her there is absolutely no way you feel that as big as your pussy is. She claimed she was loving it though. I asked her where she got it from. She said it was original from her mom and dad. I told her to take that shit back and trade it for a smaller model. I decided to bring out the big guns for this one. She was totally flexible and able to put her legs behind her head. I left the usual 1000 baht in the usual place. It's 2:30pm. She just left and said she hopes to hear from me soon.
Hairdo chick from two nights ago.
[QUOTE=Asheron; 1137692]I'm shocked some of you pay more than 1000 thb ST.
Really I am. Soi 6 is the place to go.
Soi 6 I say to the girls 500 thb include Bar Fine? And 9 times out of 10 they say yes and go upstairs.
And in the GoGO bars I buy Lady Drink and then chat with them and say 700 thb everything include fine.
During the daytime I try and chat up locals and try to get freebies.[/QUOTE]When we say Soi 6 is the place to go we need to clarify to go for what.
If you want quantity and a really low price then this might be it. But you are not going to find many girls that rate over 4 out of 10. Most are between 2 and 3. It's quite easy to be fooled by the dark lighting and the girl playing with your dick in the bar downstairs. Then when you get upstairs in the shower etc. The saggy tits, stretch marks and rolls of fat really are a turn off. But, if you just want quantity and not quality then this might be the place to go.
500 Baht plus Bar Fine? You're having a laugh.
700 Baht all in in a Go-Go Bar? You're having another laugh.
[QUOTE=John Traveller;1138057]Then in the end I want to go to Soi LK-Metro. But not easy to find. To find it first go to Second Road, then go east along soi 13 (aka Soi Diana). After a while (before you come to Soi Bukhao) turn left and you're there. I walk into Champagne. It's past midnight, and the bar is totally full. But it seems like a good place, so I wait for a chair to be available. The girls here are really good looking, but still they seem casual and the drinks prices are also reasonable. That's all from me in Pattaya, I checked out all areas in just two nights, pretty efficient, yeah?[/QUOTE]IMHO I can't remember seeing that many really good looking girls here? Unless a whole new team have moved in and the regular girls have moved out. You don't normally find really good looking girls, mixing with westerners, who live in Pattaya and like to hang out in this area. The really good looking girls are going to be looking for really good opportunities to make really decent money. Last time I looked the girls, based on looks, were between 3 and 4 out of 10.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1138222]Met this chick in the disco last night. 1.70m 60kg. Not usually my type but she approached me. 23 year old university student / receptionist from Bangkok. She has a break from school until after Songkran. No kids. Knew absolutely nothing about Pattaya. She was with her sister who owns a hair salon here. As usual no money discussed. I got her back to the crib and saw she had the pussy hole of a horse.[/QUOTE]Another great and funny report. Excellent work! I have noticed over the yeas that the taller girls over 165cm have the biggest, and deepest holes. Ironically some of the shorter. Skinny spinners will surprise you also. Very deep. Feels like no bottom / end inside. Nevertheless, because they can take it with no complaining (and little damage) , you can still get your nut. A big / deep hole on these women can be just as good as a small / tight one. I still prefer curvy / thick Thai girls best though.
Great job. Keep up the good work.
[QUOTE=Ajordan; 1138108]Are the all the Bars similar to Fields in AC, that you can also Bar fine the waitresses?
Curious. I'm going in 6 weeks.
Regards,
Aj[/QUOTE]The servers in the clubs are fair game in Pattaya. But in the restaurants, one needs to negotiate and set up for a future date.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1138222]Met this chick in the disco last night. 1.70m 60kg. Not usually my type but she approached me. 23 year old university student / receptionist from Bangkok. She has a break from school until after Songkran. No kids. Knew absolutely nothing about Pattaya. She was with her sister who owns a hair salon here. As usual no money discussed. I got her back to the crib and saw she had the pussy hole of a horse.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should quit fucking horses, LOL!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1137431]Shit. A lot of the pros ask for one but they really don't mean it. I like to joke with them and tell them that we do not need because we can not make a baby with condom. Then right before the penetration starts I show them that I have one.[/QUOTE]Most girls don't care and most mongers don't use one. They are just too afraid to come on here and admit it.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1138962]Most girls don't care and most mongers don't use one. They are just too afraid to come on here and admit it.[/QUOTE]Speak for yourself. I definitely use condoms. Primarily because I don't desire AIDS.
[QUOTE=Evianist;1139096]Speak for yourself. I definitely use condoms. Primarily because I don't desire AIDS.[/QUOTE]99% covered FS for me.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1138962]Most girls don't care and most mongers don't use one. They are just too afraid to come on here and admit it.[/QUOTE]I think you are wrong here. Two years ago I attended a Expat meeting and the topic of discussion was about AIDS in Thailand. In its tracking in Thailand the growing cases each year were coming from abroad and Thai's were being infected. Personally I don't think that Thai women don't care it couldn't be further than the true IMHO, its that they are not educated and in the end they are in the business for the money and when a Farang is telling them I'll give you this much in the end like someone said it comes down to money and they take a chance not knowing it only takes once!
If you did some RTFF, you would see that there are a few that don't but there are a majority that do and those that do use condom I can gaurantee that from time to time the little head has done the thinking and gone without one and that includes me. A recent conversation with a lady at a bar regarding this topic I was told how stupid many Farangs are asking them if they would go without a condom that they are clean because they don't butterfly but have been in the bar often picking different girls yet they can say it with a straight face that they are clean?
I myself, was told that I could do her without a condom because I'm no butterfly!
LBM
[QUOTE=Xpartan;1138112]You swam in Pattaya? Granted my last time there was about 13 years ago, but the water was so polluted it was even painful to watch. Have they really cleaned the beaches?[/QUOTE]Yes, I even had my head under water. I didn't get sick after. Hmmm, good I didn't know these issues in advanve, then I would have missed the swimming.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1138155]I personally prefer Jomtien Beach, the next beach south of Pattaya. Very little pollution and always some nude action in the peak seasons.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I like to stay in Jomtien when in Patts. It's quiet and you can get a reasonable deal renting a condo in one of the tall buildings. Last time I had a balcony, ocean view, internet, small kitchen all for about 1000 Baht a night.
The beach isn't great but it's not too dirty. One problem last time was jellyfish.
My MO is to find a really nice girl in Pattaya and then bring her back via the Baht Bus to spend the night.
Had some great times with the girls hanging out on that beach. You can get amazing food brought to you and drinks and watch the sunset. Will probably cost a fraction of what a dinner at a nicer place on Walking Street would. Great place to have dinner with a beautiful sunset. Add a nice sexy companion and its absolute heaven!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1138962]Most girls don't care and most mongers don't use one. They are just too afraid to come on here and admit it.[/QUOTE]I always use condom and the ladies I've been with have usually asked if I had one.
A girl that would do BB would put me off. I'd probably do her (with Condom) in the heat of the moment, but would be stressing about it big time afterwards.
[QUOTE=John Traveller;1138057]EXTRA: LK seems to be the best alternative in Pattaya when it comes to go-go-bars taking up a middle ground between pricey Walking Street and the variable quality of sois 6, 7.8 and PL2.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report John. You are quite a trooper. In my two trips to Patts, both times staying about 10 days or so, I've only wandered down there to go to Devil's Den (once) but have never checked out the gogos or bars.
One question: what are prices like at Champagne for the BF and LT?
I checked their website and there are some smoking ladies. I definitely want to make it part of my next trip.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1138222]...the pussy... was literally the biggest I have ever seen. Fucking her I could not feel a damn thing. She was moaning and groaning and I told her there is absolutely no way you feel that as big as your pussy is. She claimed she was loving it though. I asked her where she got it from. She said it was original from her mom and dad. I told her to take that shit back and trade it for a smaller model.[/QUOTE]Perhaps for some of us other fellows it would not seem 'big'. Personally I prefer a roomy one so that one can 'work out' a bit. Make the most of it and have a 'good hard fuck' for an hour or so. With the small ones all one gets is 'jep! Jep' and requests to stop or hurry up and finish.
Hi guys,
I'm wondering if there are several hotels that you guys could recommend that are similar to Queen Vics (very affordable, near the action, free wifi a plus)?
[QUOTE=Evianist;1139096]Speak for yourself. I definitely use condoms. Primarily because I don't desire AIDS.[/QUOTE]Never leave home without it. Definitely use in Thailand, Magnums. Anyone who doesn't might as well put a revolver to their head and hope for an empty chamber. Stay thirsty my friends.
[QUOTE=Patty Boy; 1139656]Hi guys,
I'm wondering if there are several hotels that you guys could recommend that are similar to Queen Vics (very affordable, near the action, free wifi a plus)? [/QUOTE]#1. Secrets.
#2. Billabong.
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1139570]Yeah, I like to stay in Jomtien when in Patts. It's quiet and you can get a reasonable deal renting a condo in one of the tall buildings. Last time I had a balcony, ocean view, internet, small kitchen all for about 1000 Baht a night.
The beach isn't great but it's not too dirty. One problem last time was jellyfish.
My MO is to find a really nice girl in Pattaya and then bring her back via the Baht Bus to spend the night.
Had some great times with the girls hanging out on that beach. You can get amazing food brought to you and drinks and watch the sunset. Will probably cost a fraction of what a dinner at a nicer place on Walking Street would. Great place to have dinner with a beautiful sunset. Add a nice sexy companion and its absolute heaven! [/QUOTE]Sounds very much like my 2 months this last high season. Was out at Soi 19 so rented a motorbike for 150b a day and at night would leave it at the end of Jomtien Beach Road and go into Pattaya by Baht Bus. Find a hottie and take a Baht Bus back to the bike. Otherwise you have to hire a taxi for 200. 400b late at night to get home. Bought about 5 bikinis from the lady at Beach Road and Soi 2 for hotties that stayed a few days. She got a real kick out of selling me them for all these different girls and gave me good discounts.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1139844]Sounds very much like my 2 months this last high season. Was out at Soi 19 so rented a motorbike for 150b a day and at night would leave it at the end of Jomtien Beach Road and go into Pattaya by Baht Bus. Find a hottie and take a Baht Bus back to the bike. Otherwise you have to hire a taxi for 200. 400b late at night to get home. Bought about 5 bikinis from the lady at Beach Road and Soi 2 for hotties that stayed a few days. She got a real kick out of selling me them for all these different girls and gave me good discounts.[/QUOTE]Next time, take your bike all the way to the back of Marina Hotel / Marine Disco there is a lot and a guard that will charge you 20 baht to park your bike all night. Forgot the exact Soi, but leads you to Rolling Stone 2 bar and W. S. Or you can catch the Baht bus on 2nd Road.
LBM
[QUOTE=Opebo;1139609]Perhaps for some of us other fellows it would not seem 'big'. Personally I prefer a roomy one so that one can 'work out' a bit. Make the most of it and have a 'good hard fuck' for an hour or so. With the small ones all one gets is 'jep! Jep' and requests to stop or hurry up and finish.[/QUOTE]I prefer roomy as well, but this one looked and felt like it was dilated and waiting for a baby to drop out!
Just finished organizing my next trip to Pattaya.
Got a couple of weeks off at the end of April, so its 8 nights at the Sabai Resort in a villa.
Also got a shit hot airfare from Melbourne (AU) , with Royal Brunei. $547 return.
Can't wait!
Keep up the good reports!
so i got here few days ago and staying at the ph. first night there i can't wait to see the place and went to the kitten club. i bf this short little lady named wow, she is a great kisser and very very wet. but later i found she is in the red so i sent her home paying her 1500 and found the bed to be stained.
2nd night, went to kc again, got this girl claiming to be fon. she knows almost no english at all and my biggest mistake is that i didn't wait around and take a better look at her body. her stomache is like all wrinkled, maybe from pregnancy or surgery getting out her fat, etc. but the worst thing is that she is as dry as the dessert no matter what i do. sent her on the way paying her 1000. then i got dar later that night from dd, and wow! she is great! according to the website, she does all except [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth, not that i care, but according to her, she will do it if customer ask, hence dar, ning and rain is the all checks. dar is good especially if you're not the talkative type, she will have no problem keeping the conversation. and according to her review, she got rating that is a 8, because the guy said she won't shut her mouth. lol.
then last night went to kc again because i want to finish up my free champagne. boy, owhat a mistake, i was totally wasted. i sat there 2 hours taking a better look at all the girls they have to offer and at the end, bfed nik, she have a great toned slim body. only complain i have is that she is not as wet as i wanted, but at least wet, lol. have to use some lubes and its no problem. anyway, kc have 15 girls hired and 30 ladyboys from obsession, but its all the same place anyway. anyway, beginning tonight, i'm going to explore some other places. any recommendations? discos, clubs, bars, etc?
[QUOTE=Azndevilus; 1140138]... But later I found she is in the red so I sent her home paying her 1500 and found the bed to be stained...[/QUOTE]The girl was on her period, she stained the bed, and presumably, you didn't have sex with her this night... and you paid her 1500 baht! I hope it's a joke as it's April Fools' Day!
Are there any other places that have pictures & profiles online like the Devil's Den?
And what kind of rates have you guys gotten from the girls when you've walked in without an appointment?
EB.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1139876]Next time, take your bike all the way to the back of Marina Hotel / Marine Disco there is a lot and a guard that will charge you 20 baht to park your bike all night. Forgot the exact Soi, but leads you to Rolling Stone 2 bar and W. S. Or you can catch the Baht bus on 2nd Road.
LBM[/QUOTE]Tried it once, you go down Soi 16. Just found it too hair raising the way people drive in this country.
[QUOTE=Goyave;1140161]The girl was on her period, she stained the bed, and presumably, you didn't have sex with her this night... and you paid her 1500 baht! I hope it's a joke as it's April Fools' Day![/QUOTE]Actually I did, because the lights was set pretty dim, I didn't realize till I've did her for like 2 hours. Hence I paid her for ST. And I did have her out of the club for like 4 hours.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1140217]Tried it once, you go down Soi 16. Just found it too hair raising the way people drive in this country.[/QUOTE]I understand, when I'm down there I worry more about the Mideasterns that rent motorbikes than the locals. In the end that what makes it challenging and exciting. I think the Thai cops on 2nd and Pattaya Tai make a living off this idiots.
LBM
[QUOTE=Englshboi; 1140193]Are there any other places that have pictures & profiles online like the Devil's Den?
And what kind of rates have you guys gotten from the girls when you've walked in without an appointment?
EB[/QUOTE]Here and there I keep seeing comments suggesting that DD is the place to go. Sadly for me it wasn't. Poor quality. Expensive operators and unbelievable overall poor value. Maybe just a place for newbies.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1140219]I understand, when I'm down there I worry more about the Mideasterns that rent motorbikes than the locals. In the end that what makes it challenging and exciting. I think the Thai cops on 2nd and Pattaya Tai make a living off this idiots.
LBM[/QUOTE]You are very right LBM. Although I myself find it terrifying rather than exciting. On another note I always enjoy the hair cut, shave, nail clip and face massage I get at the mid-east frequented Barber Shop on Soi 16 maybe 20 yards off 2nd road. Always feel like 1m baht leaving there. 90 minutes for around 600. 700b.
Yes, this is a kind of report. But no, not my first. Just could not activate my old profile. Maybe you can guess what it is (but it doesn't matter, really.)
16..30. 3.2011. Another 2 weeks in Pattaya, and it was just great. Girls very beautiful – I was in Pattaya first time in the mid 90s, and this time the market was better than ever. Many more ladyboys and gay bars, though. And Russian tourists with their BYO girl friends. I wonder why. New trend of having a mixed group of hostesses in some of the bars. In many beer bars (from Soi 7 and 8 to North at least) there is at least one ladyboy among the staff. I found that sometimes a bit confusing – you got to be careful out there these days.
Walking Street: just for the scenery, I would say. Way too expensive for me. 2 000 € + for an open bar girl short time. 2 500 € + in all to get a go-go girl down to your place. Those prices including an odd lady drink and a barfine (from 300 to 600 B). So, after a couple of expensive nights I decided againts Walking Street.
Wonderful beer bar area just outside (north) of Walking Street. VERY pretty girls. Loads of them. And normal prices. 300 B a barfine, and lady "tips" up from 500 B. Had a kind of regular girls from one these bars, me and my friend. Very nice, very much like GFE.
Beach Road also provided some gems. And the price there is still 500 B, short time. 1 000 B for LT. No need for bargaining.
Hate to give numbers for looks. Is mongering a way to boost your self confidence? For me it is just plain fun. I would never pay more for stunner, because they tend to be over worked and lazy – IMHO, of course. My 60-year old friend prefers ladies 40 +. They are in many cases hungry for both money and sex. I noticed the same with a lady who looked like 35 or so in Sin Bin. HOT and JUICY. My friend took a 60-year old broad on the Beach Road just to find out if her s-ing was good – it was.
Very few clients in general, and a lot hungry girls to select from. Many bars were quite empty north from the Walking Street. Sometimes we felt pity for the girls. After all, we couldn't support but one or two per night.
Also good situation with hotels. In the very heart of the action. Between Walking Street and Second Road and around Soi 13s. There were dozens of small hotels and guest houses, such as Night Star and Sin Bin, with decent, clean room with AC and hot shower for as little as 500. 700 B. Really no need to book in advance off season. Just walk in, any time of the day or night.
Must go back. Fast.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1140219]I understand, when I'm down there I worry more about the Mideasterns that rent motorbikes than the locals. In the end that what makes it challenging and exciting. I think the Thai cops on 2nd and Pattaya Tai make a living off this idiots.[/QUOTE]I was standing in front of Tukcom the other day. There were two motorbikes in the no parking zone which the cops had chained together. A few minutes later a motorbike taxi guy walked up. One of the bikes was his. The cop politely unchained it for him and chained the other one by itself. That same day another monger got a ticket for stopping past the line at a traffic signal. Those guys are something else.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1140344]You are very right LBM. Although I myself find it terrifying rather than exciting. On another note I always enjoy the hair cut, shave, nail clip and face massage I get at the mid-east frequented Barber Shop on Soi 16 maybe 20 yards off 2nd road. Always feel like 1m baht leaving there. 90 minutes for around 600. 700b.[/QUOTE]You'd feel even better if you went to Soi Buakhow where you can get a haircut for 60 baht; shave for 70 baht, and the whole package for less than a third of what you're paying on Soi 16 South Pattaya.
Hello, Fellow Punters:
I was wondering if any of my fellow campaigners out there have ever had the opportunity to sample a mother / daughter combo? It has become something of a fantasy of mine. If someone has an info. About this. How to find, how to approach, etc. I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
JohnnieBravo
Hi Guys.
I have only just started using Viagra and while I was able to get a prescription here in Australia, it ended up costing me $20 per tab as opposed to $2 if I had been a war vet (though I am not sure that getting shot at is worth the discount!)
Are generic versions available in Pattaya?. Are they effective? Any particular pharmacies to go to? What sort of cost?
Thanks for any info you can give me. Searched the forum but can't find anything specific but apologies if I have missed something on this.
Cheers,
Bubba.
B
[QUOTE=Bubba999; 1140585]Hi Guys.
I have only just started using Viagra and while I was able to get a prescription here in Australia, it ended up costing me $20 per tab as opposed to $2 if I had been a war vet (though I am not sure that getting shot at is worth the discount!)
Are generic versions available in Pattaya. Are they effective? Any particular pharmacies to go to? What sort of cost?
Thanks for any info you can give me. Searched the forum but can't find anything specific but apologies if I have missed something on this.
Cheers,
Bubba.
B[/QUOTE]Kamagra is sold at pharmacies all over Pattaya, no prescription needed. Just as effective as Viagra, with the same active ingredient: sildenafil citrate. I think I paid 300 baht for 4 100mg tablets.
If you have private medical you can get refund of $50 per scrip, but if not the next best thing is take the extra cost of a trip to Cambodia, by TG (Thai Airways) it is not that much more with a stop both ways in Bangkok. You only need stay one day and you can buy VeeTab in the pharmacies there for USD$4. 30 for 10 of 50mg pills. They are made in India for a one time Australian compnay, been using for about 5 years now, they are good, and at 50c a night, anybody can go wild.
Hi Guys.
I have only just started using Viagra and while I was able to get a prescription here in Australia, it ended up costing me $20 per tab as opposed to $2 if I had been a war vet (though I am not sure that getting shot at is worth the discount!)
Are generic versions available in Pattaya. Are they effective? Any particular pharmacies to go to? What sort of cost?
Thanks for any info you can give me. Searched the forum but can't find anything specific but apologies if I have missed something on this.
Cheers,
Bubba.
[QUOTE=N Parky;1140310]Maybe just a place for newbies.[/QUOTE]Plenty of DD regulars are anything but newbies. But there's been a lot of turnover in their girls lately and you need to pick carefully. Plus the best few girls tend to be largely booked up these days. So it's not quite the recommendation it used to be, but it's still possible to have a great session there.
[quote=azndevilus; 1140138]so i got here few days ago and staying at the ph. first night there i can't wait to see the place and went to the kitten club. i bf this short little lady named wow, she is a great kisser and very very wet. but later i found she is in the red so i sent her home paying her 1500 and found the bed to be stained.
2nd night, went to kc again, got this girl claiming to be fon. she knows almost no english at all and my biggest mistake is that i didn't wait around and take a better look at her body. her stomache is like all wrinkled, maybe from pregnancy or surgery getting out her fat, etc. but the worst thing is that she is as dry as the dessert no matter what i do. sent her on the way paying her 1000. then i got dar later that night from dd, and wow! she is great! according to the website, she does all except [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in mouth, not that i care, but according to her, she will do it if customer ask, hence dar, ning and rain is the all checks. dar is good especially if you're not the talkative type, she will have no problem keeping the conversation. and according to her review, she got rating that is a 8, because the guy said she won't shut her mouth. lol.
then last night went to kc again because i want to finish up my free champagne. boy, owhat a mistake, i was totally wasted. i sat there 2 hours taking a better look at all the girls they have to offer and at the end, bfed nik, she have a great toned slim body. only complain i have is that she is not as wet as i wanted, but at least wet, lol. have to use some lubes and its no problem. anyway, kc have 15 girls hired and 30 ladyboys from obsession, but its all the same place anyway. anyway, beginning tonight, i'm going to explore some other places. any recommendations? discos, clubs, bars, etc? [/quote]how is the pussey in the dessert? found any wet to your too your liking lately? stick around for a few days and the one time of the year when you are guaranteed wet pussey. song kran.
I spent 10 days or so in Pattaya for no particular reason as it seems my destiny is more about Phuket, where I'm now.
But, certain things are easier in Pattaya and the experience was good overall.
My recommendation is always the same, hit the discos early enough for the best lookers, or late for the best deals, hit the streets (will never forget the 10 I picked-up once and could not fuck), hit beach road if you like too. My disco girls where good and funny to be with. It was memorable to tell the bouncer that he was half gay and fuck off when he grabbed my butts (thing that he actually did).
But the best sex I had with a beach road girl that I've been banging 3 or 4 days in a row. Wish I could remember her name, she kind of stays around soi 11 (or 13? By the 7-11). She has almost ladybody looks, but looking closely she's just a pretty Thai face with strong body. Not tick, not fat. Good English the funny thing is that refuses to learn any written form consequently can't text. Has kind of strong attitude but without ever being disrespectful or unplesant. Totally uninterested in staying overnight, but long hours of strong fuck or just hanging out were OK anyway. She wanted 500 a pop, in the end she got less (but many pops!)
Here's the negative parts, that would have been easily avoidable by engaging brain:
- Fucked up skinny dark girl from 2nd road late at night, fucked up teeth, strange attitude, horrible sex, gave a lot of bad signals that I ignored, treated her well, let her sleep with me, on her way out she lifts my $50 cellphone. Consequently, I have a $20 new one now.
- My 3rd traffic ticket (no helmet) in the middle of 2nd road when it was dark already. Don't these pigs go get drunk at that time? Left home D / L and unpaid ticket, they can swipe it on their fat asses, rather I'll get a dup once back home.
In a certain way, can't beat Pattaya!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1140458]I was standing in front of Tukcom the other day. There were two motorbikes in the no parking zone which the cops had chained together. A few minutes later a motorbike taxi guy walked up. One of the bikes was his. The cop politely unchained it for him and chained the other one by itself. That same day another monger got a ticket for stopping past the line at a traffic signal. Those guys are something else.[/QUOTE]We must have been in the same location since I remember those two bikes? Around a month ago I went to the Soi Baukhao market and parked across from Tukcom since there were cars and motorbikes parked there. I didn't pay attention to the sign and the time but a hour later I came back and the first thing I noticed that all the cars and bikes were gone. I was thinking shit? But then I saw my bike the only one left, turn sideways into the sidewalk. I was lucky no chain no ticket!
Just yesterday had my kid and his friend on the bike going down Siam Country, right at the railroad tracks they were doing a road check. Cops everywhere and they pull me over. I was thinking the most they could get me for was that I was short a helmet. As I slow down the cop look and saw that I was a family man with two young kids and wave me off. Lucky again but the few Farangs weren't.
You're right! Outright discrimination which equals $$$$ to Thai cop
It's good to see you are still doing your thing in Thailand Mr Enternational it was a pleasure to meet you once again and hang with you an, ISG legend in my book. I will be back in June for 3 weeks and I can't wait to return to LOS!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1138222]Met this chick in the disco last night. 1.70m 60kg. Not usually my type but she approached me. 23 year old university student / receptionist from Bangkok. She has a break from school until after Songkran. No kids. Knew absolutely nothing about Pattaya. She was with her sister who owns a hair salon here. As usual no money discussed. I got her back to the crib and saw she had the pussy hole of a horse. It was literally the biggest I have ever seen. I shouted out Hello, into her pussy thinking I would hear an echo. Instead, somebody yelled back,"Damn the greetings. Get me the fuck out of here."
Fucking her I could not feel a damn thing. She was moaning and groaning and I told her there is absolutely no way you feel that as big as your pussy is. She claimed she was loving it though. I asked her where she got it from. She said it was original from her mom and dad. I told her to take that shit back and trade it for a smaller model. I decided to bring out the big guns for this one. She was totally flexible and able to put her legs behind her head. I left the usual 1000 baht in the usual place. It's 2:30pm. She just left and said she hopes to hear from me soon. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1140872]Cops everywhere and they pull me over. I was thinking the most they could get me for was that I was short a helmet. As I slow down the cop look and saw that I was a family man with two young kids and wave me off. Lucky again but the few Farangs weren't. - - You're right! Outright discrimination which equals $$$$ to Thai cop[/QUOTE]Just "Mr. Money" at it again. Too bad they don't do much else. What a joke!
The two cops in the attached picture were stopping motorbikes on the highway south of Jomtien. They gave my GF a ticket for no MC license endorsement. She tried to give the cop 200 baht but he would not take it. Later, she just tore up the ticket. So much for the law in Thailand.
Funny thing, these two said to me, "no photo, no photo! Illegal to take photos of Police Thai." Just a crock of bullshit.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1140970]...Funny thing, these two said to me, "no photo, no photo! Illegal to take photos of Police Thai." Just a crock of bullshit.[/QUOTE]Hell, the same is true in the good old USA, where photo's of cops being bad will get your camera smashed and your face beaten.
No idea how I only just discovered this forum yesterday. Spent hours reading it, some great info and excellent reports.
Heading to Pattaya in just over 2 weeks, only staying 8 days. Its my fourth visit to Thailand and 3rd time in Pattaya.
Staying in the Areca Lodge as we did last time, incredibly I've not been to Devils Den despite it being so close to the hotel, we kind of ignored that LK Metro area for some reason. Going to check out Mixx nightclub too as we used Insomnia for picking up girls with some mixed results.
Will probably be the same format as last time, Soi 6 through the day, Soi's 7 or 8 bars in the evening then on to Walking Street.
Looking forward to it and looking forward to sharing some interesting reports.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1140970]Just "Mr. Money" at it again. Too bad they don't do much else. What a joke!
The two cops in the attached picture were stopping motorbikes on the highway south of Jomtien. They gave my GF a ticket for no MC license endorsement. She tried to give the cop 200 baht but he would not take it. Later, she just tore up the ticket. So much for the law in Thailand.
Funny thing, these two said to me,"no photo, no photo! Illegal to take photos of Police Thai." Just a crock of bullshit. [/QUOTE]Last year after 10 years I got busted for going down the Soi in the wrong direction at 11pm at night. I couldn't believe it that a cop would be hiding under a tree on Soi 5, Central at that time. He spoke Thai thinking I was Thai, once he new I wasn't he said " you go to Soi 9, but long wait I can take care of it for you but it's 600 baht " I was playing around and show him I only had 180 baht. He took my International license which I don't really need and said you can pay tomorrow. I was thinking what if I just didn't show up to pay the ticket and just let them have the Internaitional license. What kind of system do they really have to track down people?
Thereafter I went down to Soi. 9, it was empty I told the Tourist police what happen and ask them how much was the ticket they said 400 baht for going down wrong way. It was on the board but in Thai. Next morning I went down to pay and first window I gave them the ticket and the kind told me 600 baht. I said to him sign says 400 baht. He laughed and said that isn't the infracting? I paid 600 baht moved to next window and they actually had me down in the computer and after I showed him I paid he gave me back my license. So they do keep track but do they have the time to come after you if you throw the ticket away?
Not sure but don't want to find out? May the kids go back to school and tuition is due so they will be out in force that month?
LBM
LBM, they can't do a thing about unpaid tickets, that's why they either take your keys or D / L (that is probably illegal, but who are you to argue). Not even civilized countries follow up with traffic fines to non-national, go figure here.
Also I got a wrong direction ticket on Soi 12 last year. The pig was standing on the corner for that exact reason.
So that is a good move, to have some disposable ID, or a copy of the bike's keys to recover it after he leaves the spot. I would rather give 600 Baths to pretty much anybody except to them. Because you think they will be on the right side if anything ever happens to you?
Last year a LB slit the throat of an expat here in Patong with a broken bottle. The guy, 28 yrs old died within hours. The pigs arrested the killer, but he was released the following day and to my knowledge, is and will remain free.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1140975]Hell, the same is true in the good old USA, where photo's of cops being bad will get your camera smashed and your face beaten.[/QUOTE]Thanks heaven sometime there is someone able to hide the camera or cellphone so the pigs can eventually progress their career as van drivers or something.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1141035]LBM, they can't do a thing about unpaid tickets, that's why they either take your keys or D / L (that is probably illegal, but who are you to argue). Not even civilized countries follow up with traffic fines to non-national, go figure here.
Also I got a wrong direction ticket on Soi 12 last year. The pig was standing on the corner for that exact reason.
So that is a good move, to have some disposable I'd, or a copy of the bike's keys to recover it after he leaves the spot. I wold rather give 600 Baths to pretty much anybody except to them. Because you think they will be on the right side if anything ever happens to you?
Last year a LB slit the throat of an expat here in Patong with a broken bottle. The guy. 28 yrs old died within hours. The pigs arrested the killer, but he was released the following day and to my knowledge, is and will remain free. [/QUOTE]I was thinking something on the same line but I was willing to shell out the money just to get the answer. Now with my International driving license if they had any brains could easily forward my name to Immigration and if they did would easily located my address. Then as you know shit could hit the fan just to get me for more money to blackmail me on my immigration status. As with a Thai, you can't squeeze juice out of a dry lemon which is one of my favorite line use here.
Sorry about your friend same happen in Pattaya, I was taking some language classes and found out recently my classmate was knifed in the back and killed by a LB, they arrested him / her and let him / her go!
[quote=new old guy; 1141035]not even civilized countries follow up with traffic fines to non-national, go figure here.
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a few years ago, i was in a rental car in southern france, and went through a speed trap. they sent the ticket to the rental company which just charged my credit card.
oh, sorry, you were talking about civilised countries. my mistake. carry on. :d
[quote=1ball;1141246]a few years ago, i was in a rental car in southern france, and went through a speed trap. they sent the ticket to the rental company which just charged my credit card.
oh, sorry, you were talking about civilised countries. my mistake. carry on. :d[/quote]
555! a similar thing happened to a french friend of mine a few years ago in the united states. it was not a speeding ticket, but a ticket for a parking violation. the us rental company just charged his credit card too.
as it seems, there is more than only one "uncivilized country" in this world! ;)
This is what you get when you bargain too hard for group sex in Pattaya.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/04/04/five-indians-drugged-and-robbed-by-one-thai/[/url]
[quote=goyave; 1141368]555! a similar thing happened to a french friend of mine a few years ago in the united states. it was not a speeding ticket, but a ticket for a parking violation. the us rental company just charged his credit card too.
as it seems, there is more than only one "uncivilized country" in this world! . [/quote]so goyave,
not quite sure what we are saying here. us and france are uncivilized? what is thailand?
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1141381]This is what you get when you bargain too hard for group sex in Pattaya.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/04/04/five-indians-drugged-and-robbed-by-one-thai/[/url][/QUOTE]This one is interesting, too, as the hotel folks appear to be in on it.
"The police enquired the hotel to give them the recording from security camera. Unfortunately, the hotel staff said that the camera was malfunctioned at the time and hence no recording found. The hotel staff did not photocopy the girl's I'd card either."
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/03/09/indians-pay-a-great-price-for-fun/[/url]
Pattaya News, and the TV channel also, are one the greatest source of entertainment here and abroad too.
Their use of English, the condescending opinion, the salty bits of practical information (at times) and at time their creativity are unique.
[i]3, 500 Thai Baht cash. 2 Nokia mobile phones. 2 tourist guide books. 1 plane ticket, Altogether the amount stolen is estimated to be worth 200, 000 thb. [/i]
How can the stuff above be worth 200, 000?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1141385]This one is interesting, too, as the hotel folks appear to be in on it.
"The police enquired the hotel to give them the recording from security camera. Unfortunately, the hotel staff said that the camera was malfunctioned at the time and hence no recording found. The hotel staff did not photocopy the girl's I'd card either."
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/03/09/indians-pay-a-great-price-for-fun/[/url][/QUOTE]They all same to hate Indians over there. I've seen so many of them being refused entry to gogo bars.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1141418]... 3, 500 Thai Baht cash. 2 Nokia mobile phones. 2 tourist guide books. 1 plane ticket, Altogether the amount stolen is estimated to be worth 200, 000 thb...[/QUOTE]
It could be worth 200K baht, for instance if the plane ticket is for a first class flight.
Goyave, stolen plane tickets have no value. They are not thai bus tickets LOL.
N. 1 paper tickets almost do not exist anymore.
N. 2 even if you have a paper ticker lost or stolen, after reporting to the airline you *may* have some difficulty in getting a replacement, but you can be *damn sure* nobody else will be able to fly it.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1141432]Goyave, stolen plane tickets have no value. They are not thai bus tickets LOL.
N. 1 paper tickets almost do not exist anymore.
N. 2 even if you have a paper ticker lost or stolen, after reporting to the airline you *may* have some difficulty in getting a replacement, but you can be *damn sure* nobody else will be able to fly it. [/QUOTE]That's true that most airlines no longer issue paper tickets. I might be wrong, but I think that a few airlines still do (though they are very likely charging a fee for a paper ticket). I agree that even a paper ticket has no value for a thief, unless it is a refundable one (and provided that the thief knows a way to get a refund or an exchange, which might be possible, I suppose, if he also stole some form of ID from his victim). I don't know for sure, and you are probably right (about the amount being inconsistent) because this story sounds very fishy to me too.
It's not a fishy story, it's just a burglary story narrated the pattayanews / Thai Police way. Taking a plane ticket at face value to increase the value of the stolen goods t0 make it a bigger news. My point is that there is a mix of cynicism and naivete that makes them irresistibly humorous in a dark sense. Like the pics of the poor guy defecating his carry of amphetamine pills in the prison showers. Whatever concept for human decency and pity they have here is very, very different than "ours".
[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1141447]It's not a fishy story, it's just a pattayanews / Thai Police story. Taking a plane ticket at face value to increase the value of the stolen goods t0 make it a bigger news. My point is that there is a mix of cynicism and naivete that makes them irresistiby humorous in a dark sense. Like the pics of the poor guy defecating his carry of amphetamine pills in the prison showers. Whatever concept for human decency and pity they have here is very, very different than "ours".[/QUOTE]Agreed. Those "news" are indeed very often really entertaining in a cynical kind of way.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1141385]This one is interesting, too, as the hotel folks appear to be in on it.
"The police enquired the hotel to give them the recording from security camera. Unfortunately, the hotel staff said that the camera was malfunctioned at the time and hence no recording found. The hotel staff did not photocopy the girl's I'd card either."
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/03/09/indians-pay-a-great-price-for-fun/[/url][/QUOTE]There they go again! The first story. 2 Indians 1 girl. The seconds story, FIVE Indians, one girl. When I was there I never saw more than 3 on one girl!
Seriously though. Maybe this is some subtle intimidation. That is - report a crime, get your name and photo and nationality in the press as a sex tourist. I can only imagine if their families or employers decide to google them.
And how do you simultaneously drug five men? That girl had balls.
[QUOTE=Bubba999; 1140585]Hi Guys.
I have only just started using Viagra and while I was able to get a prescription here in Australia, it ended up costing me $20 per tab as opposed to $2 if I had been a war vet (though I am not sure that getting shot at is worth the discount!)
Are generic versions available in Pattaya. Are they effective? Any particular pharmacies to go to? What sort of cost? [/QUOTE]You could try Kamagra tablets, or Kamagra Oral Jelly. You don't need medical prescription and can find it anywhere, in every pharmacy, expecially in the official ones. Never take more then 50 mg per day, if you don't suffer of erectile disfunction. Never buy this medicine on the streets, but only in regular pharmacies.
It seems to remember that the price of a blister of 4 Kamagra tablets. 100 mg each (to divide for one single dose) , it's about 400 bath. You can have a discount if buy great quantities.
The effect is exactly the same of Viagra.
[QUOTE=Englshboi;1140193]Are there any other places that have pictures & profiles online like the Devil's Den?[/QUOTE]I've been in Pattaya many times but don't remember another place with this kind of escort service with booking online.
[QUOTE=Englshboi;1140193]And what kind of rates have you guys gotten from the girls when you've walked in without an appointment?[/QUOTE]Better book in advance or, if not possible, go there very early, at 13:00 o'clock. If you go there during the afternoon, without booking, you'll discover that the best ladies are always busy.
[QUOTE=Asheron;1137692]Soi 6 I say to the girls 500 thb include Bar Fine? And 9 times out of 10 they say yes and go upstairs.[/QUOTE]Absolutely false. I know very well this soi and usually pay 700 bath to the girl and 300 bath for barfine for normal performance. If it happens to make anal sex, I give her 300 bath more for incentivating this practice.
[QUOTE=Asheron;1137692]During the daytime I try and chat up locals and try to get freebies...[/QUOTE]I think I'm a normal looking man, not particularly beautiful but interesting. In many years spent in Pattaya I can exactly remember the few girls that didn't ask me money for fucking. Freebies in Pattaya are very rare.
[QUOTE=Edward M;1141461]There they go again! The first story. 2 Indians 1 girl. The seconds story, FIVE Indians, one girl. When I was there I never saw more than 3 on one girl![/QUOTE]I counted 10 on 1 two weeks ago in the parking lot right before Beach Road turns into Walking Street. I still don't get it.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1141418]Pattaya News, and the TV channel also, are one the greatest source of entertainment here and abroad too.
Their use of English, the condescending opinion, the salty bits of practical information (at times) and at time their creativity are unique.
[i]3, 500 Thai Baht cash. 2 Nokia mobile phones. 2 tourist guide books. 1 plane ticket, Altogether the amount stolen is estimated to be worth 200, 000 thb. [/i]
How can the stuff above be worth 200,000?[/QUOTE]Hey. Them are NOKIA phones, no Samsungs!
[QUOTE=Vale64;1141644]I think I'm a normal looking man, not particularly beautiful but interesting. In many years spent in Pattaya I can exactly remember the few girls that didn't ask me money for fucking. Freebies in Pattaya are very rare.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I can not agree with you about freebees!
When I first started to visit Thailand I firmly believed that the 'No Money, No Honey' rule applied.
BUT, now, although I am an 'old guy' I get freebees regularly on my visits to Thailand, both in BKK and Pattaya!
OK, I agree that there is probably no such thing as a 'complete' freebee and you always end up paying something! Perhaps a Taxi, drinks or sometimes a meal, but the difference in price between a nice Thai meal for one and a meal for two is just one extra bowl of rice!
Even as a 'Normal Old Guy' it is perfectly possible to find 'civilians' in hotels, shops, café's or on the street. In fact EVERYWHERE!
In February I found a rather nice young lady working the Dr. Fish stall outside near my hotel. I smiled, she smiled and we started to talk. Then, whenever I walked by, I stopped for a chat and bought her an orange juice. After a couple of days I invited her to join me for a meal! So, after she finished work (around 11. 00 pm) we met up and went for a meal together, stopped at a 7-11 for a beer (for me) and a Spy (for her) and walked back to my room!
It was GREAT! She told me that she had not had any guy for well over 1 year and was she enthusiastic? Too right she was!
She even phoned me a couple of days later, just before lunch time, to tell me that she had an hour or so free and 'could we meet? '
Too right we could! Another hot sweaty hour of screwing ensued in my room.
Cost to me = One Spy for her to drink and a packet of biscuits!
NO MONEY CHANGED HANDS!
This is just one (my most recent) freebee but I could quote so many occasions I have been successful.
Just treat them well, be a 'nice guy' and the freebees will roll in. Civilian girls often want, and enjoy, sex just as much as us guys do.
No, I am not a Brad Pitt look alike. I am just an older, overweight, and balding (but enthusiastic) Brit!
Oh yes, I must add the comment that I am NOT looking for a “perfect 10!”
An enthusiastic “girl next door” type will do it for me! But I must also add that I will not see 60 again and this girl was JUST 24!
It is out there! You just have to get out and find it.
Give it a try, after all what do you have to loose?
Enjoy,
I do!
Hotman.
I met Freeler on his last day in Pattaya and my first. Walking around, Freeler said, quite rightly, I was like a newbie, admiring legs, bums and more. On Beach Road, a babe with a dress up to her Adam's apple made my head and that of many others, turn. I pointed her and her long legs out to Freeler who was not impressed. Not his type.
It turns out she was a he and in very high demand as it happens. Several who picked her up walked away and, though not getting up close and personal, she would fool most little head people. Her friend tried to pick pocket me which is not a wise strategy.
The ladyboys are not the worst of it and are not the reason for this post. Pay attenion:
Fight 1: Three Russians hired two deck chairs and got in a heated conversation with a deck chair lady. I could see the Thai heavies gathering and tried to warn them. Then a stupid American intervened taking a video of the whole thing. One of the Russians told him not to video. He called them names, push came to shove, one of the Russians hit him, the Thai heavies saw their chance and fight on. Right into the middle of Beach Road. The Russians were left in a bad state, the Yank sweet talked the cops in Thai and the Thais f-ked off. All over 30 baht.
Fight no 2: Another Russian was in handcuffs on the shore line with a fat Arab tourist cop barking out orders. The jet ski mafia had tried to rip him off. And spear him with a steel spike. And he tore up the notes he was to pay and then fatso had him done for insulting the king, who is on the baht notes. He was carted off in a utility truck police wagon, the fat tourist cop happy to have fucked up a tourist on the pretext he insulted the king.
The jet ski mafia are back to their old ways. Do not use them under any circumstances. They have outrageous rip offs going and you will most likely lose 30, 000 baht or more.
Be very careful getting into fights as the Thai scum wil all jump in and the tourist police are probably worse than the brown mafia. They make me sick: arrogant nobodies who want to be somebody.
Lots of young Russian and Israeli babes about. I am sure thyey are getting fleeced by the riff raff. Lambs to the slaughter and nothing we can do for them. The Russians (18-24 yo) are well worth a poke.
I am poking away the Beach Road lot and helping to keep the price down. What I do with them is very much x rated and not permissable here.
I was looking forward to doing a long legged lady near the short term hotel but her 55+ years is catching up on her. That said, she is in better shape than many of them, quite a few of whom are literally legless from the drink and yabba.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1141831]No, I am not a Brad Pitt look alike. I am just an older, overweight, and balding (but enthusiastic) Brit!
Oh yes, I must add the comment that I am NOT looking for a 'perfect 10! '
An enthusiastic 'girl next door' type will do it for me! But I must also add that I will not see 60 again and this girl was JUST 24! [/QUOTE]Dude you are my hero. I just hope I can still pull stuff like that off when I reach that age.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1141831]Sorry, I can not agree with you about freebees!
When I first started to visit Thailand I firmly believed that the 'No Money, No Honey' rule applied.
BUT, now, although I am an 'old guy' I get freebees regularly on my visits to Thailand, both in BKK and Pattaya! [/QUOTE]Lot's of free sex in LOS as well as the rest of the world. But the big question is: Can you score 18-20yo thai hotties on a regular basis? I bet you can't. Sorry, that is the cream of the crop and you have to compete with the thais to get it and they are winning.
Only way to compete is with lots of cash and / or extremely good genes.
Plenty of "plane Janes" to be had for free, but is this why you came to LOS?
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1141868]Lot's of free sex in LOS as well as the rest of the world. But the big question is: Can you score 18-20yo thai hotties on a regular basis? I bet you can't. Sorry, that is the cream of the crop and you have to compete with the thais to get it and they are winning.
Only way to compete is with lots of cash and / or extremely good genes.
Plenty of "plane Janes" to be had for free, but is this why you came to LOS? [/QUOTE]Amjeck,
You raise a valid point. Yes, I readily admit that you do not often find 'perfect 10' freebees.
But, as I said in my post, An enthusiastic 'girl next door' type will do it for me!
I have had my fair share of 'perfect 10 dead Starfish' To me a 'spark' between us is more important than superb looks!
YMMV.
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666;1141831]In February I found a rather nice young lady working the Dr. Fish stall outside near my hotel. I smiled, she smiled and we started to talk. Then, whenever I walked by, I stopped for a chat and bought her an orange juice. After a couple of days I invited her to join me for a meal! So, after she finished work (around 11. 00 pm) we met up and went for a meal together, stopped at a 7-11 for a beer (for me) and a Spy (for her) and walked back to my room![/QUOTE]Sounds fun, but the only problem with shagging a girl outside your hotel Is sneaking past her with other girls LOL
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1141831]. Now, although I am an 'old guy' I get freebees regularly on my visits to Thailand, both in BKK and Pattaya!
OK, I agree that there is probably no such thing as a 'complete' freebee and you always end up paying something! [/QUOTE]OK, good for you.
Reading your interesting post I've found that the main point is what we're looking for, in a place like Pattaya or Bangkok, and I've realized that the difference is on the score we aim.
Beeing a massive monger, every time I go in Thailand my average is about 1. 5-2 different girls per day. I usually stay 2 or 3 weeks, so I can fuck nearly from 20 to 40 ladies every holiday. I don't have much time to spend in los, so I collect a lot of ST and very few LT for increasing the amount of my targets. Having this attitude, it's very difficult to meet freebee because it's easier paying for fast sex.
It's very likely you have different attitudes, and prefer to stay more time with ladies, enjoy their company and not only sex. By this way, it's easier to get freebes.
The Departed, why the Thais intervened in the fight between the Russian and Americans? Just to kick some random Falang ass?
I've seen another fight with Russians the other night here in Paton. Opposed to the Tuk-tuk assholes. The Russian were well built, but not huge. I have to say they stood some rounds without too much fuss. The Thais were 10-15 and they came forward in clusters but without delivering any real blow, the Russian dealt quite well. The only mistake they did was not to keep shoulders to wall, because the coward Thais attacked by behind too. One bearded motherfucker come with a broomstick, another with a flying kick that really did not shook the Russian too much. At the end one or two pigs pigs showed up and were yelled to the Russians, one of them had a bruised cheek but that was pretty much it. To reinforce his authority the Thai pig was stomping on a water bottle, without even managing to break it. Hilarious.
I think that Thai men from the stree know very well that unless they are true fighters or attack in group, a reasonably fit falang can beat their ass. From there their cowardliness.
i picked up a freebie out of the disco a couple of weeks ago. you have to realize that in the discos there are non-pros mixed in with pros and you don't always know who is which. so, i used my usual m. o. and went around collecting numbers for later use. for one girl i used my usual line of going bowling or to a movie together the next day. she started texting me immediately. she called me from work the next day and arranged to meet me at big c at 3:30. we kept going back and forth with,"what do you want to do?" "i don't care. what do you want to do?" so she reminded me that the night before i said i wanted to go to a movie. i said okay but i need to take this stuff that i bought home first. so she followed me to my place.
i looked some movies up online but there were no times listed. i got up from my chair and went to cuddle her on my bed. we started kissing and i tried to take it far. she cut me off and said that she didn't come for that. she came to go to the movies with me. that is what confirmed to me she was a non-pro. i eased back and let her warm up to me. before i knew it i was inside of her wet-wet. after all was said and done i went to sleep.
i kept waking up peeking at the clock every hour just waiting for her to say that she had to go home. but i had met my match. she would not budge. i kept thinking to myself this is why it is better to pay them. so you can get rid of them when you want. finally at 1:30am i texted pipe layer and prayed that he would hit me back. he did so i told her that i was going to go out with friends.
since that day she has been on me like stink on shit. texting constantly, calling over and over. she is all in love; even putting stuff about me on her messenger caption. i don't know if my sanity was worth the price of the sex.
[QUOTE=Vale64; 1141934]OK, good for you.
Reading your interesting post I've found that the main point is what we're looking for, in a place like Pattaya or Bangkok, and I've realized that the difference is on the score we aim.
Beeing a massive monger, every time I go in Thailand my average is about 1. 5-2 different girls per day. I usually stay 2 or 3 weeks, so I can fuck nearly from 20 to 40 ladies every holiday. I don't have much time to spend in los, so I collect a lot of ST and very few LT for increasing the amount of my targets. Having this attitude, it's very difficult to meet freebee because it's easier paying for fast sex.
It's very likely you have different attitudes, and prefer to stay more time with ladies, enjoy their company and not only sex. By this way, it's easier to get freebes. [/QUOTE]Would you dare say that all of those 20 to 40 ladies that you claim are 9s and 10s? For me, I am well past the stage of having to have the best looking girls in the place. Don't get me wrong, I don't want anything that looks like homemade sin. But at this point, after fucking hundreds of pros and hundreds of non-pros, chemistry, loads of fun, and a good experience rate higher than superficial looks. I have fucked enough 9s and 10s on this planet that it is no big deal anymore.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]But the big question is: Can you score 18-20yo thai hotties on a regular basis? I bet you can't. Sorry, that is the cream of the crop and you have to compete with the thais to get it and they are winning.[/QUOTE]Not everyone considers those 18-20 year old Thai "hotties" the cream of the crop.
As Richard Pryor said, "The only pieces of pussy that really matter are your first and you last."
[quote=mr enternational; 1142040]i kept waking up peeking at the clock every hour just waiting for her to say that she had to go home. but i had met my match. she would not budge. i kept thinking to myself this is why it is better to pay them. so you can get rid of them when you want. finally at 1:30am i texted pipe layer and prayed that he would hit me back. he did so i told her that i was going to go out with friends. [/quote]heheh! i bought a samsung cellphone and it came with a great feature: fake call. you press something four times and get a call in 15 seconds. i recommend that for good measure you throw some drama in the bs story, after all that is what the ladies do routinely to us!
[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1142049]Heheh! I bought a Samsung cellphone and it came with a great feature: fake call. You press something four times and get a call in 15 seconds. I recommend that for good measure you throw some drama in the BS story, after all that is what the Ladies do routinely to us![/QUOTE]I have it, but it's on my phone that I only use in the USA. You can set the times you want it to call and even the name and number you want to appear on the caller ID.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1142047]But at this point, after fucking hundreds of pros and hundreds of non-pros, chemistry, loads of fun, and a good experience rate higher than superficial looks. I have fucked enough 9s and 10s on this planet that it is no big deal anymore.."[/QUOTE]Mr. E,
I agree completely. You chose some good words. 'Chemistry' is FAR more important, to me, than just good looks.
Some of my best "in bed" experiences (World Wide) have been with 'girl next door' types rather than 'Perfect 10 Hotties! '
OK, I do not personally choose to go with 'fugglies' but the average 'girl next door' type can generally be both enthusiastic and appreciative.
In my humble experience you do not find these normal civilian girls asking 'You finished yet? ' Or 'Me go now? '
But, 'different Strokes for different folks! ' so YMMV.
Enjoy,
Hotman
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1142150]Mr. E,
OK, I do not personally choose to go with 'fugglies' but the average 'girl next door' type can generally be both enthusiastic and appreciative. [/QUOTE]But this way costs much more. .
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1142047]Would you dare say that all of those 20 to 40 ladies that you claim are 9s and 10s?[/QUOTE]No, it isn't what I meant. I simply wanted to tell that I enjoy to change girls everytime, no matter if She's a stunner or simply attractive, very beautiful or simply nice. I don't like to stay long time with a lady because I want to be completly free to look for the next one!
[QUOTE=Vale64;1142171]No, it isn't what I meant. I simply wanted to tell that I enjoy to change girls everytime, no matter if She's a stunner or simply attractive, very beautiful or simply nice. I don't like to stay long time with a lady because I want to be completly free to look for the next one![/QUOTE]That was my point exactly. After you have changed so many times you can't expect and frankly don't care if the next one is 8, 9, or 10. You are just out to have fun.
Yo Departed,
Sweet memories for me already.
Have you fucked that huge titted Rusky Pizda in the white dress yet, or are you still the shy boy on the block?
I just finished sorting through the massive load of pics and vids ("I'm a movie star now mommy!") I took.
BigCunt's gaping wet gaping hole looks awesum, with inserted male parts even better. Also whopping are Korat's Ning and Buriram's new DT find. Damn, what a throat! The pics also are proof of the fact that better fucking makes for more cum (Quantities are easier measured on faces than "in uterus", so to speak!)
That last romp I had with Pattaya44DD+, (see tiny pic. No I won't post larger sizes) left me so fukken tired that I simply crashed out once on the plane. Slept for 8 hours straight. That's a Freeler-in-Flight Record that won't be broken any time soon.
Fuck a few for me will 'ya? And if you want 44DD+'s phone number, just PM me.
Have loads of fun and don't start any fights, ok?
Freeler
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1142040]So, I used my usual M. O. And went around collecting numbers for later use. For one girl I used my usual line of going bowling or to a movie together the next day.[/QUOTE]Thanks bruh. I did well with gogo girls on walking street, and soi 6. But I will definitely use this approach on my next trip. Not only in the discos, but shopping areas, and the "legit" massage parlors also. I encountered some many nice 30. 40 year olds in shopping malls (working and shopping) , and also in legit massage (foot, and Thai massage) places. But I did proposition them. This approach might be the key to entirely different level of scoring. Both in Pattaya and Bangkok. I'm ready.
I went to the Tourist Police afterwards. They told me:
1. The big Iranian / Arab was a conman and was NOT a cop. This is a SCAM. And all the cops are in on it. A cop should have an I'd card but this guy did not. Impersonating a police officer is a big crime but in Thailand the cops are in on it.
2. DO NOT USE THE JET SKIS under any circumstances. They have all imaginable scams on.
3. The Tourist police number is 1155 but 038. 410044 is better.
Really, the Tourist Police are not much use. The best thing is not to use anything to do with the water as they are major scamsters. That is what the German tourist cop told me.
The original other argument was between the Russians and the deck chair lady with the Yank stirring the shit for his own sick reasons. The Thais wait for their moment to attack and the two Thai guys were well built. A full on punch and boots from behind would hurt anyone and they did damage. The Rusisans were not well built guys or scrappers.
Another scam is the lady smashes your TV and the hotel pay her 1000 baht and hcarge you 10, 000 for the 1, 500 bt TV.
Ladyboy update: The ladyboy got lots of customers. She and another got two young British tourists and walked from Royal Gala to Central Road on Beach Road with them with everyone, Thais, young Russian babes, laughing at them. Lots of guys obviously opt for the ladyboys who are more full on sellers.
Me: I have got 700 baht long time from Beach Road. I am now sponsoring her to re-enter the go go scene as a service lady. Kitted her out in clothes last night. She has fucked everywhere and knows more about Thermae, Gullivers, Siam Novotel, Patpong than anyone posting here. She was married to a Yank and a Swede, got the house, the baby and the lot.
She is now pointing out the karaoke places to me, where the young go go ladies spend their money on young Thai gay guys.
The deal is I sponsor a room for a month, buy her the start up clothes: white shirt, non pleated short skirt, tie, socks and she works 6pm-3am, does not go with customers and I fuck her every day with a few more kopeks thrown in. My upside risk is limited by her work hours, by she will get tips and by I am beside her. It is a risk but nothing ventured. I can also short time at night when she is working / short timing behind my back.
I have found many yabba users on Beach Road and they seem ready to go with you almost for free if you use yabba. Sounds like a real suicide job to me.
[QUOTE=The Departed;1142364]Really, the Tourist Police are not much use.[/QUOTE]I've never dealt with them in Pattaya and it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of them there are bought off like everyone else is. But I have used them a couple times in Bangkok and they really went out of their way to help me. Unlike the regular cops, I reckon they're always worth a try.
Departed,
I've barely left your side and you're already pimping out some chick!
For suitable skimpy little shirts and skirts, check out the shop on South Road, on your right if you walk up from Second Road. There is a similar shop on Central too, not far away from Second.
"I have got 700 baht long time from Beach Road".700B? Have you completely lost it? Unless it's 700 baht for the month, then it's ok.
Not only are the Foreign Police Volunteers not much good, I'd say they are complete assholes for letting the BIB do even less and giving them more time to think about new ways to fine foreigners.
Are there any women amongst the Volunteers? You see, there's just one thing left that I have to do before I move on to the after life and that's to fuck a fat police woman up the arse.
Beach Road. I found the selection quite good last weekend. Way better than during Christmas and New Year. The nicest thing about Beach Road is of course that in between the newbies asking for inflated fees, there are always the old hands, who will come with you for old time's sake and 300 baht.
Regards,
Freeler
[QUOTE=Freeler;1142461]Not only are the Foreign Police Volunteers not much good, I'd say they are complete assholes for letting the BIB do even less and giving them more time to think about new ways to fine foreigners.[/QUOTE]Just to make it clear, nobody should confuse the FPVs with the Tourist Police, who are a special unit of the Thai police and so have full police powers. I know that most farang have a pretty low opinion of Thai cops, but believe me, good ones do exist, and it can be damn useful to have one on your side. But forget the FPVs. A lot of them seem to be just pathetic wannabes, and of course they have absolutely no legal standing or authority.
But what is the con if he brought the guy to the police? Do you know if the police released him, charged him or shook him down?
[QUOTE=The Departed; 1142364]I went to the Tourist Police afterwards. They told me:
1. The big Iranian / Arab was a conman and was NOT a cop. This is a SCAM. And all the cops are in on it. A cop should have an I'd card but this guy did not. Impersonating a police officer is a big crime but in Thailand the cops are in on it.
2. DO NOT USE THE JET SKIS under any circumstances. They have all imaginable scams on.
3. The Tourist police number is 1155 but 038. 410044 is better.
Really, the Tourist Police are not much use. The best thing is not to use anything to do with the water as they are major scamsters. That is what the German tourist cop told me.
The original other argument was between the Russians and the deck chair lady with the Yank stirring the shit for his own sick reasons. The Thais wait for their moment to attack and the two Thai guys were well built. A full on punch and boots from behind would hurt anyone and they did damage. The Rusisans were not well built guys or scrappers.
Another scam is the lady smashes your TV and the hotel pay her 1000 baht and hcarge you 10, 000 for the 1, 500 bt TV.
Ladyboy update: The ladyboy got lots of customers. She and another got two young British tourists and walked from Royal Gala to Central Road on Beach Road with them with everyone, Thais, young Russian babes, laughing at them. Lots of guys obviously opt for the ladyboys who are more full on sellers.
Me: I have got 700 baht long time from Beach Road. I am now sponsoring her to re-enter the go go scene as a service lady. Kitted her out in clothes last night. She has fucked everywhere and knows more about Thermae, Gullivers, Siam Novotel, Patpong than anyone posting here. She was married to a Yank and a Swede, got the house, the baby and the lot.
She is now pointing out the karaoke places to me, where the young go go ladies spend their money on young Thai gay guys.
The deal is I sponsor a room for a month, buy her the start up clothes: white shirt, non pleated short skirt, tie, socks and she works 6pm-3am, does not go with customers and I fuck her every day with a few more kopeks thrown in. My upside risk is limited by her work hours, by she will get tips and by I am beside her. It is a risk but nothing ventured. I can also short time at night when she is working / short timing behind my back.
I have found many yabba users on Beach Road and they seem ready to go with you almost for free if you use yabba. Sounds like a real suicide job to me. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Betong;1142510]Just to make it clear, nobody should confuse the FPVs with the Tourist Police, who are a special unit of the Thai police and so have full police powers.[/QUOTE]I respectfully doubt so, as "full police powers" involves carrying a weapon and they (thanks heaven) do not. Not even baton and handcuffs. Also I doubt they have powers to search and detain upon simple suspicion.
My understanding is that in Thailand a Citizen's arrest is legal, so they, just like anybody else, can detain a criminal in flagrancy only.
What I don't doubt is that among Thai cops there are honest and just elements, that deserve to be called Officers.
[quote]But forget the FPVs. A lot of them seem to be just pathetic wannabes, and of course they have absolutely no legal standing or authority. [/quote]Again I don't agree. I saw few of these yesterday here in Paton. Unlike Farang "cops", they are just young people willing to play a positive role. They were standing on Bangla road observing people walking around. Supposes two foreigners get in a fight, or even a pesky LB, they can at least witness who started it, as it seems that is an important detail here.
From reading about the foreign volunteers, I'm sure this has been posted before, UK tv series on Thailand.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLuW9l0XqvY[/url]
[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1142787]I respectfully doubt so, as "full police powers" involves carrying a weapon and they (thanks heaven) do not. Not even baton and handcuffs.[/QUOTE]Fair enough, no guns but in Pattaya I believe they can and do carry batons and cuffs and pepper spray (in fact I think even the FPVs can). Their powers of arrest have always been a bit vague. They've gotten credit for various arrests of ATM scammers etc, though actually probably in conjunction with regular cops. Anyhow no Thai seems to doubt their authority, and that makes them pretty effective when they want to be. I'd tried all kinds of things to get a refund out of a sleazy travel agent (AW on Suk 11) , including letters from a lawyer, but in the end all it took was one tourist cop walking in with me. He was a 20-year veteran of the regular police and nobody ever told him he wasn't a real cop.
As far as FPVs, OK, they're not all wankers even in Pattaya and no doubt some are nice helpful people, but some of them take themselves WAY too seriously.
I will be cuming to Pattaya on the 16th, will the Songkran activities end by then, or should I plan on wearing only a raincoat and flip-flops?
I will be in town for over a week. Anybody else around, send me a PM. I'm always good for a couple of rounds.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1143277]I will be cuming to Pattaya on the 16th, will the Songkran activities end by then, or should I plan on wearing only a raincoat and flip-flops?
I will be in town for over a week. Anybody else around, send me a PM. I'm always good for a couple of rounds. [/QUOTE]You are on a computer, right. Why don't you search Songkran 2011 and find out.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1143277]I will be cuming to Pattaya on the 16th, will the Songkran activities end by then, or should I plan on wearing only a raincoat and flip-flops? I will be in town for over a week. Anybody else around, send me a PM. I'm always good for a couple of rounds.[/QUOTE]More like flip flops, a swimsuit, a comfortable shirt that can stay wet all day, and anything valuable (money only, really) in two layers of waterproof plastic. Prepare to be doused, sluiced and baptized everywhere you go. Best to have a good attitude about it, as you will have no choice.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1143277]I will be cuming to Pattaya on the 16th, will the Songkran activities end by then, or should I plan on wearing only a raincoat and flip-flops?
I will be in town for over a week. Anybody else around, send me a PM. I'm always good for a couple of rounds. [/QUOTE]Best time of the year, once you checkin, get a new T-shirt with a Bulleyes and get into the fun!
LBM
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1143286]You are on a computer, right. Why don't you search Songkran 2011 and find out.[/QUOTE]Thank you Luvpuss for the invaluable information you provided.
I already did a Web check, and know that the festival is suppose to end on the 15th. However, when I was in Pattaya in December and making plans for the April trip, I was told that the Songkran activities might consist throughout the weekend; 16th. 17th, and so on.
I was hoping for some insight from people with "boots on the ground."
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1143300]More like flip flops, a swimsuit, a comfortable shirt that can stay wet all day, and anything valuable (money only, really) in two layers of waterproof plastic. Prepare to be doused, sluiced and baptized everywhere you go. Best to have a good attitude about it, as you will have no choice.[/QUOTE]Fon Tok, thank you for your intellect response!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1143399]Best time of the year, once you checkin, get a new T-shirt with a Bulleyes and get into the fun!
LBM[/QUOTE]Thank you LBM!
Seeing how it is one of the hottest months in Thailand; no problem with doing the "While in Rome." thing. I'll bring a condom for my camera. Or better yet, I'll bring my underwater camera instead!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1143404]Or better yet, I'll bring my underwater camera instead![/QUOTE]That's the best way to take photos. I used my underwater camera case a few years ago and it worked great. Especially for night shots as the flash was functional. A plastic bag 'camera cover' doesn't work for more than a few dousings and will leak. You will also have to deal with talcum powder and paste, that you can rinse off a waterproof case.
ok, so another bar in soi 6 has converted to a gogo. bad trend. a couple of other bars have reopened under other names, and there's quite a few spaces being remodeled.
my recent regular sweetie came out when called with her finger bandaged. she cut it last night on broken glass (no mention of how the glass got broken) and had to get stitches. she's very sorry for herself, has had enough of pattaya, and is going back to kampaeng phet today. she doesn't know if she'll be back. she is an absolute little doll, delicate features, moody but goodnatured if you give her a chance. i hope i don't see her turn hard.
so i had a chance to try someone new. i went back to a cutie who caught my eye on the way past. she saw me coming and was happy that her come-to-me spell worked. we were on our way upstairs as quick as the cashier could give change.
this was hole in one bar. i liked the room, which was basically a box as large as the bed, with huge mirrors on three sides and the ceiling. she's very small, and pregnancy left her with some stretch marks, but she's still in lovely shape. excellent session followed, she being quite interested in watching the action in the mirrors also. afterwards extended cuddling with no nonsense about towels or running to the shower. normal price for the soi.
next up, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]. i made a stupid mistake by going for a girl i had before, with three rows of teeth like some kind of shark. i had forgotten how bad the teeth was. she has short hair and quite broad shoulders, gents, unless you're using someone else's dick and they don't want it back, avoid her. sorry, i didn't get her name.
after that, happy ending oil massage (200b+300b) , quite impressed that my dick revived after the previous rather gruelling session.
after that, went back to soi lk to check out the new gogos that have been opening there. they are mash, submarine, and kiss, so including office and champagne there are now 5 in that soi. at mash i got "free tequila / sambuca with first drink" coupons for office and submarine, which i used, and which is why i'm miserable now. they're all "theme" bars, same ownership?
mash was not bad, nicely done new bar with good sound, though for now most of the ladies are retreads. after a while a fun girl with smoking hot attitude joined me. stretch marks from pregnancy, but excellent figure and moves. lots of fun in the bar, kissing, grinding, dancing. low drink pressure.
tried submarine next. it's a tiny place with a bit too much light and way too many stools standing around. the waitresses were continuously perplexed trying to get through the jam of stools with their orders. they were perplexed in general, service was anxious but very slow. to my surprise i was recognized by a not incredibly beautiful girl, who remembered me from months ago when her aunt in a hotel lobby was trying to interest me in her. she said that this was her first gogo job.
next up, kiss, next door. much bigger place, not bad, girls a bit sparse but a step up from mash and submarine, more nudity. i was harassed by a beautiful, well-traveled, minx who had already been barfined by a phlegmatic gentleman that she was alternately climbing over and ignoring. for the sake of that guy i hope he has her measure, she's a firecracker full of drama.
drinks and ladydrinks at all these gogos were between 90 and 110 baht.
subsequently things are a bit of a blur. the last thing i remember is getting a sandwich from the yellow 24-hour "american" place on soi 13/1. i remember it partly because the sandwich forcefully reminded me this morning. mild food poisoning combined with a hangover. only writing isg reports can cheer me up.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;1142604]But what is the con if he brought the guy to the police? Do you know if the police released him, charged him or shook him down?[/QUOTE]The con is they arrest you on a trumped up charge and it costs you big not to get jailed. The volunteers and cops split the cash.
The guy tore up baht notes with the king on it. An honest farang would say that is bad ju ju. They would not treat you worse than a hand cuffed dog in public and then cart you off to an unknown venue. Oh, and as for reading you your rights and access to a solicitor.
I banged Michelle from Sril Lanka this morning. Picked her up on Beach Road near PBS Hotel and back to her soi 15 dump, where I am sure I bonked someone before. 1000 baht, hr first customer in three days, got two squirts out of her. Big mammary glands and a nice big belly if you like that. She had a drawer full of medicines of all shapes and sizes.
The go go lady must have short timed last night and all I had to keep me company was the TV remote and her mother, who has a very liberal atitude towards sex and 500 bt.
I will not say everything I did as the moral police here do not like to know what adults get up to.
However, what never ceases to amaze me is the amount of money these babes get through. Go go was fantastic looking when younger ten years ago and she is still hot. But he hit her Swedish bf (papa to her baba) , her ex US hubbie and a more money than sense Brit really had. I reckon she has gone through millions.
Don't get me wrong but I can see how guys snap with these women and end up in the monkey house for first degree murder. They would break Bill Gates and Wa.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1143402]I already did a Web check, and know that the festival is suppose to end on the 15th. However, when I was in Pattaya in December and making plans for the April trip, I was told that the Songkran activities might consist throughout the weekend; 16th. 17th, and so on.
Fon Tok, thank you for your intellect response! [/QUOTE]Despite what the web told you.
In Pattaya:
Expect the wetness to begin on April 12 and continue until April 19pm.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1143423]OK, so another bar in soi 6 has converted to a gogo. Bad trend. A couple of other bars have reopened under other names, and there's quite a few spaces being remodeled.[/QUOTE]Agree. Just a matter of time till the standard ST rate goes to 1000 too.
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1143404]Thank you LBM!
Seeing how it is one of the hottest months in Thailand; no problem with doing the "While in Rome." thing. I'll bring a condom for my camera. Or better yet, I'll bring my underwater camera instead! [/QUOTE]It might not be the case this year! As you noted April is usually one if not the hottest month but this year has been unusual? Since March the weather here has been overcast and cold then as April approach aside from a few days it still is overcast and have been raining a lot off and on. Today got soak twice unexpected due to rain its like Songkran has already started. If this keeps up there might not be a Songkran?
LBM
If you arrived Mid December in Phuket, what is the best path back to Pattaya and where should you stop on the way?
Some say Phuket is more expensive than Pattaya. So my little brain says there must be some cheaper less touristy spots to try out on the way back. I only picked Phuket because of a cheapish plane ticket, and besides, gambling on a quick look, and bailing if I don't like it.
[QUOTE=Keeniu; 1143547]If you arrived Mid December in Phuket, what is the best path back to Pattaya and where should you stop on the way?
Some say Phuket is more expensive than Pattaya. So my little brain says there must be some cheaper less touristy spots to try out on the way back. I only picked Phuket because of a cheapish plane ticket, and besides, gambling on a quick look, and bailing if I don't like it. [/QUOTE]You can fly directly on Bangkok Air, go to BKK, or drive.
I actually like Phuket a lot. The beach is much better than Pattaya. It is less crowded and a little more low key in my opinion. Also, there is plenty of pussy there. Bangla St. And probably more MP's concentrated in a small area than any other place. It may be a little higher priced, but not that much.
[QUOTE=Keeniu; 1143547]If you arrived Mid December in Phuket, what is the best path back to Pattaya and where should you stop on the way?
Some say Phuket is more expensive than Pattaya. So my little brain says there must be some cheaper less touristy spots to try out on the way back. I only picked Phuket because of a cheapish plane ticket, and besides, gambling on a quick look, and bailing if I don't like it. [/QUOTE]Unless you particularly enjoy being on the beach, get out of Phuket as quick as possible! Too many regular tourists have transformed Phuket in a pussy market for suckers. It's much cheaper and girls are definitely better than in Phuket. Many more places to go at night too!
[QUOTE=El Frances;1143804]Unless you particularly enjoy being on the beach, get out of Phuket as quick as possible! Too many regular tourists have transformed Phuket in a pussy market for suckers. It's much cheaper and girls are definitely better than in Phuket. Many more places to go at night too![/QUOTE]I think I got it now. El F. Wants that nobody goes to Phuket so he can have it all!
Anyway: read the Phuket forum and judge yourself. Currently, I'm enjoying almost free sex in there.
Missed the Point. There is 700-800 Kms by road to Pattaya from Phuket.
Rather than full blown, expensive foreign owned bars, supporting greedy hands, I bet there are a few affordable 'other places' in the towns heading North. Ranong, Chumphon, Myeik, Phetchaburi are big enough and must have some action. Yep, some people are keeping their off the beaten track places secret.
[QUOTE=Keeniu; 1143902]Missed the Point. There is 700-800 Kms by road to Pattaya from Phuket.
Rather than full blown, expensive foreign owned bars, supporting greedy hands, I bet there are a few affordable 'other places' in the towns heading North. Ranong, Chumphon, Myeik, Phetchaburi are big enough and must have some action. Yep, some people are keeping their off the beaten track places secret. [/QUOTE]That maybe very well the case but from my absolutely incomplete knowledge of Thailand, these "hidded places for locals" mainly focus on price and maybe age of the girls, so unlikely that one will find great performances or looks, those who have them go where the demand and purchasing power is stronger, eg BKK, Pattaya, Phuket or even Chiang Mai.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1143986]That maybe very well the case but from my absolutely incomplete knowledge of Thailand, these "hidded places for locals" mainly focus on price and maybe age of the girls, so unlikely that one will find great performances or looks, those who have them go where the demand and purchasing power is stronger, eg BKK, Pattaya, Phuket or even Chiang Mai.[/QUOTE]That is most certainly correct. I found the same thing out traveling around Brazil. It was obvious that all the ones with the great looks were going to Sao Paulo and Rio, because the ones left in the smaller cities and towns were barely doable. You see the stars in the bigger cities and you are inclined to think there must be some real gems hidden in out of the way places or feeder towns, when in fact the ones who are of age have already headed off to where all the big action is.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1143986]That maybe very well the case but from my absolutely incomplete knowledge of Thailand, these "hidded places for locals" mainly focus on price and maybe age of the girls, so unlikely that one will find great performances or looks, those who have them go where the demand and purchasing power is stronger, eg BKK, Pattaya, Phuket or even Chiang Mai.[/QUOTE]
555! Actually, most girls who are working in tourist-oriented venues in Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Chiang Mai, Koh Samui (etc.) are not deemed as attractive by the locals and would not dare to try their luck in the Thai-oriented places. You don't find many mothers, fat, old, dark-skinned girls in Thai-oriented P4P places.
What is true is that, on average, the prostitutes working in a tourist-oriented place are usually better performers than those working in places patronized by the locals. For instance, it's quite common to get a good BBBJ from a Pattaya-based provider, while it's not often the case from a girl working in a local brothel upcountry.
The girls working in Thai-oriented venues usually don't speak any English. Most of them are already earning good money (by Thai standards), so, they don't have the need to go work elsewhere. Moreover, some of them prefer having to deal mostly with Thai customers for several reasons (for instance, they are probably easier to satisfy on average, the communication with them is easier, etc.).
I have been in many kinds of venues in the Land of Smiles since 1999, and according to my own experience I would say that, on average, the best-looking girls (and by far) are found in Thai-oriented venues, but if you are looking for a great performer, you are more likely to find one in the tourist-oriented P4P places.
Regarding my earlier post: I since saw the fake cop sunning himself on a deck chair opposite Royal Garden, with him and the chair facing the road, not the sea. He was talking away on his cell phone. An obvious scam merchant. Do not use the jet ski type people at all.
Flicking through the Pattaya Mail today, I saw several farangs done, after being honey trapped by a farang.
Songkran is quiet so far. It is early and most eateries etc closed.
And they're off; Songkran has officially started as it's pouring in Pattaya. Beach Road providers are seeking shelter elsewhere, let the activities begin.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1143896]I think I got it now. El F. Wants that nobody goes to Phuket so he can have it all!
Anyway: read the Phuket forum and judge yourself. Currently, I'm enjoying almost free sex in there. [/QUOTE]If I go to a disco in Pattaya (or most beer bars) , I get LT for 1000 (I usually give a 200/300 tip extra). I mean for cute girls, I never go with girls who are not. Do you get it in Phuket? In Phuket they will ask 2000 (even the not so pretty ones now) , often go for 1500, but will keep to initial prices if there are enough suckers to pay the high price (there often are). If I go to a Gogo bar in Patts, I get a sweet slim 18/22 year old girl for 1500 ST and 2500/3000 LT (plus BF of course). Do you get it in Phuket?
It's not what it seems from having a glance at your posts. Is it what you call almost free sex?
Phuket is a very nice, friendly and relaxing place. I have really enjoyed going there for years and also fuelled this thread. But too many people who don't know how much to pay and also don't know what is a pretty asian girl (I. E. They see stunners everywhere) have killed the market.
I don't mind paying more for higher quality, but in Phuket the rule is rather to pay more for lower quality.
Back to Patts soon!
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1144255]And they're off; Songkran has officially started as it's pouring in Pattaya. Beach Road providers are seeking shelter elsewhere, let the activities begin.[/QUOTE]The weather is getting hot! Just in time! Let get ready to RUMMMMMBLE!
Today at 6. 30pm unfortunately I hasnt seen many girls working in soi 6 and the girls who were at work not to much interested about the customer. Care only play with water.
Maybe tomorrow better I will not go there.
[QUOTE=El Frances;1144312]If I go to a disco in Pattaya (or most beer bars) , I get LT for 1000 (I usually give a 200/300 tip extra). I mean for cute girls, I never go with girls who are not. Do you get it in Phuket? In Phuket they will ask 2000 (even the not so pretty ones now) , often go for 1500, but will keep to initial prices if there are enough suckers to pay the high price (there often are). If I go to a Gogo bar in Patts, I get a sweet slim 18/22 year old girl for 1500 ST and 2500/3000 LT (plus BF of course). Do you get it in Phuket?[/quote]Yes, or very close.
[quote]It's not what it seems from having a glance at your posts. Is it what you call almost free sex?
Phuket is a very nice, friendly and relaxing place. I have really enjoyed going there for years and also fuelled this thread. But too many people who don't know how much to pay and also don't know what is a pretty asian girl (I. E. They see stunners everywhere) have killed the market.
I don't mind paying more for higher quality, but in Phuket the rule is rather to pay more for lower quality. [/QUOTE]Not really. There are somewhat less girls, that's all.
Stop bitching about what others do or have done, and man up, if you are giving up a great place for a 20% price difference, the only one loosing is you.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1144629]Yes, or very close.
Not really. There are somewhat less girls, that's all.
Stop bitching about what others do or have done, and man up, if you are giving up a great place for a 20% price difference, the only one loosing is you. [/QUOTE]I understand you like this place, OK, just two more comments:
- you should improve your mathematics abilities,
- the main reason I know prefer Pattaya is because of the girls, not the price. It just happens that it's cheaper as an additional benefit. I've been alternatively to Phuket and Pattaya for some time and the comparison has been enlightning.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1144629. If you are giving up a great place for a 20% price difference, the only one loosing is you. [/QUOTE]Phuket is a undoubtedly a much more beautiful place than Pattaya, but, with all due respect, the price difference is higher than 20% according to my own experience for about everything (pussy, accommodation, etc.). I would say that Phuket is 33-50% more expensive than Pattaya for comparable services and products (including but not limited to P4P).
[QUOTE=Christian G; 1144406]Today at 6. 30pm unfortunately I hasnt seen many girls working in soi 6 and the girls who were at work not to much interested about the customer. Care only play with water.
Maybe tomorrow better I will not go there. [/QUOTE]What about girls quality and performance? Do you have good news from soi 6? I'm expecially interested in Red Point, Saigon, Kiss Cool.
Thank you in advance, Christian!
[QUOTE=El Frances; 1144312]Phuket is a very nice, friendly and relaxing place. .
But too many people who don't know how much to pay and also don't know what is a pretty asian girl (I. E. They see stunners everywhere) have killed the market.
I don't mind paying more for higher quality, but in Phuket the rule is rather to pay more for lower quality.
Back to Patts soon! [/QUOTE]I absolutely agree with you. I was in Phuket only one time and then, after that, I go only in Pattaya. More choose, better prices, more entertainment!
[QUOTE=Pro Fesseur;1144654]I would say that Phuket is 33-50% more expensive than Pattaya for comparable services and products (including but not limited to P4P).[/QUOTE]Again: FALSE statement.
Entry point (but decent) accommodation: baht 600-800 daily either place.
Motorbike rental (weekly) : 1000 either place.
Street SW: 7-800 either places.
Disco drinks: 100. 200 either place
Street food: 30 bahts and up either place
Restaurant: 80. 200 either place.
Anything at 7-11, Carrefour: EXACTLY the same.
BFs: I don't do bars, guess the same.
Taxi: I don't take them. There are virtually no tuk tuk in Phuket - THANKS HEAVEN.
FLs like Disco Girls od some quality: 1,000 (stingy ass) - 2000 either place.
High End Girls 2,500 - 4,000 either place.
If you can't see that yourself, either you're majorly cheap, or can't shop.
Or challenge the above and I'll come back with tangible proof.
Since three of my favorite MPs in Bangkok (Tulip, Snow White and Victoria) are closed and Mango has only reduced opening hours, I decided to make an excursion to Pattaya. After having checked in at Areca Lodge. The rooms in the new building are quite nice. And a lunch in soi Buakhao I went to pay a visit to my favorite bar My friend you at Soi 6. There the water battle was on and I decided to go down Soi 6. 1 and take the back entrance. Coming in I was greeted enthusiatically. So, after watching the water battle from the balcony for some time, I thought the time had come for upstairs action. They have at least one new room with inside shower which I visited with Eat, Chomphu, Nok and Nid. One by one with breaks to recover. Of the four, I would rate Chomphu at the very top. She even supplied a nice massage afterward during which I dozed off. Followed by Nid. Eat is maybe the most attractive and she might be first choice for someone who likes it rough. All in all, a very satisfactory afternoon. In the evening, the outside water games stopped and there was business as usual.
Here are two pictures taken from the balcony of My friend you
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1144815]Again: FALSE statement.
Entry point (but decent) accommodation: baht 600-800 daily either place.
Motorbike rental (weekly) : 1000 either place.
Street SW: 7-800 either places.
Disco drinks: 100. 200 either place
Street food: 30 bahts and up either place
Restaurant: 80. 200 either place.
Anything at 7-11, Carrefour: EXACTLY the same.
BFs: I don't do bars, guess the same.
Taxi: I don't take them. There are virtually no tuk tuk in Phuket. THANKS HEAVEN.
FLs like Disco Girls od some quality: 1, 000 (stingy ass).2000 either place.
High End Girls 2, 500. 4,000 either place.
If you can't see that yourself, either you're majorly cheap, or can't shop.
Or challenge the above and I'll come back with tangible proof.[/QUOTE]You are right on some points (on 7-Eleven and Carrefour prices, of course) , but you have a biased opinion on others. I am guessing that you have invested in a condo or in some business in Phuket (or intend to do so) to promote this place like you do.
Anyway, speaking about entry level and high-end prices is irrelevant, as it does not reflect much the differences in prices on average. I don't doubt that one can find super-cheap or very expensive accommodations in both places. But on average, for similar quality in a comparable location (near the action, for instance) , one has usually to pay about 33-50% more in Phuket than in Pattaya. It's logical, because more accommodations are available in Pattaya, therefore, the market prices are (on average) lower than in Phuket.
Call me a cheap Charlie if you wish, but on average, I pay less than you in Pattaya (for instance, many decent streetwalkers can be had for 500 baht ST, only 300 baht for the older ones, and the "Bush ladies" are even cheaper as it as been reported by several ISG members earlier in this thread). I've never paid more than 1500 LT for a girl met in a disco (in my own experience, many disco freelancers are quite happy with only 1000 baht LT in Pattaya).
I won't comment about the prices of "high end girls", as it depends on many variables (and mostly on how much the "high end girl" believes that the customer is willing to pay).
Once again, Phuket is a great place, but it's a known fact that Pattaya is (on average) much cheaper, even if one can get some very good deals in Phuket too, which I don't doubt.
[QUOTE=Pro Fesseur;1145030]... and the "Bush ladies" are even cheaper...[/QUOTE]
You mean, those "[url="http://www.artword.net/website/Theatre/2001-2002/BushLadies.htm"]Bush ladies[/url]"? :D
Just kidding here, I know that you were referring to the providers whom I spoke about for instance in [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1015330&viewfull=1#post1015330"]this report[/url]. I haven't visited Phuket recently (several years ago, it was indeed more expensive than Pattaya on average, however, I don't know if it's still the case nowadays), but I don't think that a similar place (in the woods / bush) exist there (well, it's not for everyone, anyway).
You know what? This is the Pattaya forum, any other subject is off topic.
And I'm just dreaming about my brand new 1 bdrm apartment with 10 Mb / s Internet for B. 9,000 a month.
The cut girl sleeping right now in my bed (freebie three-holer specialist) is also a dream.
Not to mention "all the rest". Pure dreaming. Is not for real, come on!
Stick to Pattaya and real life then!
[QUOTE=Nongpagba;1144899]I decided to go down Soi 6.1 and take the back entrance.[/QUOTE]Ha ha! As long as you enjoyed it!
Today I try Nicole. She is a skinny girl, black skin and 21yo. She is a siter of Bang (ex devil's girl).
Good BBBJ but not deepthroat and very good and long anal sex. I finish with CIM.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1145108]You know what? This is the Pattaya forum, any other subject is off topic.
And I'm just dreaming about my brand new 1 bdrm apartment with 10 Mb / s Internet for B. 9,000 a month.
The cut girl sleeping right now in my bed (freebie three-holer specialist) is also a dream.
Not to mention "all the rest". Pure dreaming. Is not for real, come on!
Stick to Pattaya and real life then! [/QUOTE]From what I been told you just might be dreaming? If you go to Liberty Computer on 3rd Road, behind Carrefour the owner is a Brit. He will tell you that although it is advertised there isn't any 10Mb? that is really a dream?
Otherwise enjoy the rest of your dream? LBM
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1145108]You know what? This is the Pattaya forum, any other subject is off topic.
And I'm just dreaming about my brand new 1 bdrm apartment with 10 Mb / s Internet for B. 9,000 a month.
The cut girl sleeping right now in my bed (freebie three-holer specialist) is also a dream.
Not to mention "all the rest". Pure dreaming. Is not for real, come on!
Stick to Pattaya and real life then! [/QUOTE]I don't understand. What is your point? What "other subject" is off topic according to you? Do you think that you are going to impress anyone with your one bedroom apartment at 9000 baht / month? This might be not bad in Phuket (depending on the location, area, etc.) , but it's quite easy to find one bedroom apartments in Pattaya for about 6000 baht / month (and even cheaper). And freebies can be had everywhere. But of course, Phuket is a much nicer place IMHO.
I really enjoy many places in Thailand, all of them having their pros and cons. I regularly stay in Phuket, Koh Samui, Chiang Mai, Bangkok (etc.) too, and not only in Pattaya. I just gave my humble (and unbiased, I believe) opinion about what I have observed, so, there is no need to be upset. You seem to enjoy being in Phuket, and that's great. As I said, I have no doubt that you can get some very good deals there, but on average, Pattaya is cheaper (but once again, Phuket is a more pleasant location).
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1145337]From what I been told you just might be dreaming? If you go to Liberty Computer on 3rd Road, behind Carrefour the owner is a Brit. He will tell you that although it is advertised there isn't any 10Mb? that is really a dream?[/QUOTE]I'm dreaming in Patong, not Pattaya!
Never trust IT guys, never trust Falangs!
[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1145391]never trust Falangs![/QUOTE]Oh well that's nice. But let me try and understand, you don't trust Farangs yet you are on this forum? Which is 99. 9% populated by Farangs?
What are you here for? Preaching to us?
(I wanted to insert a smiley but they are disabled)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1145414](I wanted to insert a smiley but they are disabled)[/QUOTE]
No, they are not disabled, but in order to make them appear, you have to edit your post (at least) once and then add them (they are not displayed when you first submit your report because of the misconfiguration of the automated editing function since the latest software upgrade: smilies are mistaken for bad punctuation!). :rolleyes:
Ok, now, that's off topic, I guess! :D
[QUOTE=Christian G; 1145324]Today I try Nicole. She is a skinny girl, black skin and 21yo. She is a siter of Bang (ex devil's girl).
Good BBBJ but not deepthroat and very good and long anal sex. I finish with CIM.[/QUOTE]Nicole? Alan? Thats new to me.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1144375]The weather is getting hot! Just in time! Let get ready to RUMMMMMBLE![/QUOTE]All I wanted to do was to walk from the Penthouse to 7-11, and I dodged two buckets of water; the third was a direct hit!
This is after most of the hotel staff gave me fair warning. They also told me that the craziest it gets starts midnight on the 18th through the midnight on the 19th.
It also appears the bar girls are having a blast with the water; I don't think that they are making much money though.
Here we go!
[QUOTE=Goyave;1145602]Ok, now, that's off topic, I guess! :D[/QUOTE]Pfff, there's no way I will do all that workaround. Better no smileys then.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1145685]Pfff, there's no way I will do all that workaround. Better no smileys then.[/QUOTE]
It's not a big deal, frankly. You write your report (including smilies), you select all (CTRL+A), you copy it in the clipboard (CTRL+C), and submit it. Then, you immediately edit your post by simply selecting all (CTRL+A) and then, pasting your original report (CTRL+V) and saving it. It will then appear like you wanted it to (it also prevents other unwanted automated "corrections", not only the smilies' disappearance).
[QUOTE=Michi;1145628]Nicole? Alan? Thats new to me.[/QUOTE]
Hope that "Alan" is new to you! What about "anal"? :D
A question to the more experienced readers How many percent of Thai girls in Pattaya have shaven pussies? What is your estmation? And does it differ between gogos, beerbars and massage parlors?
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1145108]You know what? This is the Pattaya forum, any other subject is off topic.
And I'm just dreaming about my brand new 1 bdrm apartment with 10 Mb / s Internet for B. 9,000 a month.
The cut girl sleeping right now in my bed (freebie three-holer specialist) is also a dream.
Not to mention "all the rest". Pure dreaming. Is not for real, come on!
Stick to Pattaya and real life then! [/QUOTE]Follow what your preach?
LBM
Hi,
Got that petite blonde pretty girl at X zone. She looks very nice (very good english too) by the name of fon or something similar. Do not go with her as she is not responsive at all. She is a star fish and do blowjob very quickly only with condom.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1145903]Follow what your preach?
LBM[/QUOTE]Bad timing mate, we're done with that four days ago!
[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1146004]Bad timing mate, we're done with that four days ago![/QUOTE]Oh I knew that I just wanted you to know it? Because there use to be a Old Old Guy on this board and he always forgot what he wrote and needed to remind him? Don't know what happen to him and although you are the New Old Guy I didn't want you to start loosing it so fast?
LBM
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1145787]A question to the more experienced readers How many percent of Thai girls in Pattaya have shaven pussies? What is your estmation? And does it differ between gogos, beerbars and massage parlors?[/QUOTE]
I would say about 20% on average (taking into account also the freelancers). It's probably more than this with the go-go girls (maybe 40 or 50% then). It's less likely with the "freshest" girls, but quite common with those who have worked in P4P for a few months and up.
Havn't seen much lately about places to go other than soi 6 or DD. Isn't anybody going to airport, x-way, windmill, or baccara just to name a few. Some updated information could be used by some of us who will be there soon
[QUOTE=Goyave;1146046]I would say about 20% on average (taking into account also the freelancers).[/QUOTE]I'd say it's much higher. I've found that it's quite a struggle to find muff now days in Pattaya in the p4p scene. So many girls shave because so many guys like it. I guess it's a trend driven by porn.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1146062]I'd say it's much higher. I've found that it's quite a struggle to find muff now days in Pattaya in the p4p scene. So many girls shave because so many guys like it. I guess it's a trend driven by porn.[/QUOTE]And IMHO, a very sad trend.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1146061]Havn't seen much lately about places to go other than soi 6 or DD. Isn't anybody going to airport, x-way, windmill, or baccara just to name a few. Some updated information could be used by some of us who will be there soon[/QUOTE]I went over to Soi 7 today. Nothing but happy Neanderthals with cheap water canons. It was entertaining, though, as lots of soaked ladies (and want to be ladies) in skimpy outfits were doing the shimmy shammy to the din of a thousand sound systems.
I never thought one could get used to the feeling of a high velocity stream of water smack in one's ear! Fuck.
Sorry, only a few mediocre pics as my trusty point & shoot bit the dust about halfway through.
Ps: the highlight of my day was the little muffin in the stripped shirt who works at the Billabong Bar on Soi LK Metro. I wanted to barfine her but my GF did not think that was a good idea. :(
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1146067]I never thought one could get used to the feeling of a high velocity stream of water smack in one's ear! Fuck.[/QUOTE]Those high velocity stream cannons do pack a punch! I was coming back from Jomtiem beach yesterday and the driver decided to avoid traffic and take the back street scenic route, yep, through a bunch of bars. The girl and I were sitting ducks!
I did not mind the water, but those fucks that use ice water; shame on you! I have never shivered in Thailand; that was the coldest water I have ever experienced!
The areal assaults will continue today from the 4th and 5th balconies at the Penthouse; don't walk down our Soi.
I am coming to Pattaya 2nd May for a week, & looking for Russian girls. I know the place in Bangkok for Russians like Rajah hotel, CM2 disco & Mike hotel.
Can anyone please give me some idea?
KAM
[QUOTE=Mackin;1146061]Havn't seen much lately about places to go other than soi 6 or DD. Isn't anybody going to airport, x-way, windmill, or baccara just to name a few. Some updated information could be used by some of us who will be there soon[/QUOTE]Makin,
Hmmmmm, not an easy question!
The problem in recommending specific bars are that us guys are all different and like different things! Also, a particular bar that may be GREAT one night, with plenty of attractive ladies and everyone having a good time will perhaps the next night be completely different! (Remember, this is Thailand!)
I am not a regular visitor to Pattaya but, when I am there, my preference one evening may well be a quiet bar with good music and pleasant company and, the next night may be for something loud, raucous and rather more 'down and dirty! '
All the bars you have mentioned CAN be fun, (on a good night.) Windmill is one of my regular haunts when I am looking for an hour or two of raunchy fun. Personally I have never found Airport to be so enjoyable (but I'm sure that you will find plenty of guys to disagree with me on that!) but I have had a few good nights over the years in Baccara!
There is no substitute for personal, on the night research. Even the smallest, quietest and emptiest, out of the way bar can, on occasions, be the source of good fun and a GREAT playmate for a few hours.
After all, if there was ONE bar which was always 'the best' then we would ALL be there EVERY night wouldn't we?
Sorry to be so negative but even if you get a recommendation for a specific bar (or girl) then that is ONLY valid for one guy on one night and YMMV (a lot!)
All I can tell you is that there are SO MANY bars in Pattaya that you should have no problem in finding a few that suit YOU and your mood that night.
Just try a few. You will find that there is something to suit EVERYONE!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Pusylicker; 1146338]I am coming to Pattaya 2nd May for a week, & looking for Russian girls. I know the place in Bangkok for Russians like Rajah hotel, CM2 disco & Mike hotel.
Can anyone please give me some idea?
KAM[/QUOTE]Govno pizda sooka
[quote=fon tok;1146067]i went over to soi 7 today. nothing but happy neanderthals with cheap water canons.... i never thought one could get used to the feeling of a high velocity stream of water smack in one's ear! fuck... ([/quote]i made the mistake of going out friday night thinking the madness would subside after dark. it did, but not enough to prevent my getting soaking wet.
i rode my motor bike down a side soi off jomtien beach road to avoid problems, but found myself a sitting duck for a teenaged girl and her little sister standing in front of mamma's laundry, well armed and waiting for any fool stupid enough to pass by. there was no escape.
for a split second in my mind, i imagined steering the bike directly toward them and gunning it to make them rep001ter, but i thought the better of it, lowered my head and drove into a huge bowl of ice water. whap! gallons of freezing water hit my chest and shorts. fuck. it was 6:30pm and i was soaking wet in an air conditioned go-go bar for the rest of the night.
i'm surprised that more of these cretins don't get run over by their victims
Sorry to hear you Songkran dislikers are having such an hard time in Pattaya!
In Phuket, *everything* started and ended precisely the 13th.
Oh and before anyone jumps in, we don't pay anything extra for the privilege (smileys).
[quote=daddy07; 1146385]i made the mistake of going out friday night thinking the madness would subside after dark. it did, but not enough to prevent my getting soaking wet.
i rode my motor bike down a side soi off jomtien beach road to avoid problems, but found myself a sitting duck for a teenaged girl and her little sister standing in front of mamma's laundry, well armed and waiting for any fool stupid enough to pass by. there was no escape.
for a split second in my mind, i imagined steering the bike directly toward them and gunning it to make them rep001ter, but i thought the better of it, lowered my head and drove into a huge bowl of ice water. whap! gallons of freezing water hit my chest and shorts. fuck. it was 6:30pm and i was soaking wet in an air conditioned go-go bar for the rest of the night.
i'm surprised that more of these cretins don't get run over by their victims[/quote]they do, what about 600 road deaths a year. it's an insane amount of lost life. i do like taking direct hits with water though, its silly and it's overkill but everyone is smiling so i just go with it.
[quote=daddy07; 1146385]i made the mistake of going out friday night thinking the madness would subside after dark. it did, but not enough to prevent my getting soaking wet.
i rode my motor bike down a side soi off jomtien beach road to avoid problems, but found myself a sitting duck for a teenaged girl and her little sister standing in front of mamma's laundry, well armed and waiting for any fool stupid enough to pass by. there was no escape.
for a split second in my mind, i imagined steering the bike directly toward them and gunning it to make them rep001ter, but i thought the better of it, lowered my head and drove into a huge bowl of ice water. whap! gallons of freezing water hit my chest and shorts. fuck. it was 6:30pm and i was soaking wet in an air conditioned go-go bar for the rest of the night.
i'm surprised that more of these cretins don't get run over by their victims[/quote]see daddy07, that's where you made your mistake! you got to head into the eye of the storm! i use to think the same and try to be slick thinking i can beat the system. heading into another soi or taking a short cut usually gets you in trouble. these side soi's don't get much business so when someone comes along all attention is spent on that one person. wham ice cold water!
this morning the last day party everywhere, after breakfast i decided to head down to tuk-com to check my phone. i went right into the storm, therrappsit down to soi 10, down the soi 10, to back of tuk-com, came out right up pattaya tai, to sukhumvit to the railroad track toll road. believe it or not just a sprinkle on me. too many targets for people even in a bright yellow windbreaker!
you didn't look too cold or wet with that young thing on your lap. friday night? that was you looking like the cat ate the goldfish?
lbm
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1146373]Govno pizda sooka[/QUOTE]I might be missing a hilarious joke here, but I just don't see how those three words (yes, I know what they mean) could possibly help the guy who asked the question.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1146638]You didn't look too cold or wet with that young thing on your lap. Friday night? That was you looking like the cat ate the goldfish?
LBM[/QUOTE]If he were as wet as he says, and had a "young thing" on his lap, she would undoubtedly have had a wet pussy early on in the evening!
The only this I know it's in Bosnian language.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1146373]Govno pizda sooka[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pusylicker;1146673]The only this I know it's in Bosnian language.[/QUOTE]Think you'll find it's Russian
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1146373]Govno pizda sooka[/QUOTE]Something closer to this, according to Google search.
"Shut your fucking mouth, *****"
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1146638]You didn't look too cold or wet with that young thing on your lap. Friday night? That was you looking like the cat ate the goldfish? [/QUOTE]Well, yeah, she did cheer me up a little bit. :)
[QUOTE=Bboulou12; 1145932]Hi,
Got that petite blonde pretty girl at X zone. She looks very nice (very good english too) by the name of fon or something similar. Do not go with her as she is not responsive at all. She is a star fish and do blowjob very quickly only with condom. [/QUOTE]She is beautiful but I could feel she was a scammer, so I said no to her. Thank you for confirming my suspisions. In fact I have not heard good reports from many bg's at x-zone. They put a great show at the venue but not back in the room.
[QUOTE=Teamsatan;1146712]In fact I have not heard good reports from many bg's at x-zone. They put a great show at the venue but not back in the room.[/QUOTE]I had a petite pretty dollface at X-Zone in the small room inside the gogo. 2000 baht total. She was very lovely, good attitude. I guess we put up a good show at the venue, together.
[QUOTE=Pusylicker; 1146695]Something closer to this, according to Google search.
"Shut your fucking mouth, *"[/QUOTE]Govno: Shit.
Pizda: C*nt.
Suka: B*tch.
It's just a string of invective, doesn't mean anything in combo.
Shut your fign mouth is more like: "Molchay suka."
Tried a Devils Imp for the first time last night. Impressed by their professionalism. Booked a girl to come to my hotel room and she arrived 5 minutes early.
Allysia was my choice, a tall, slender chick whose legs seem to go on forever and on her big heels seemed to be towering over me. She was very submissive and did whatever I asked of her including a great BJ / CIM and Ass play in several positions. Good fun but I suspect that she had had a long day and was a little tired.
But another tick off my 'Thai to-do' list and would I definitely go back for more.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1147544]Tried a Devils Imp for the first time last night. Impressed by their professionalism. Booked a girl to come to my hotel room and she arrived 5 minutes early.
Allysia was my choice, a tall, slender chick whose legs seem to go on forever and on her big heels seemed to be towering over me. She was very submissive and did whatever I asked of her including a great BJ / CIM and Ass play in several positions. Good fun but I suspect that she had had a long day and was a little tired.
But another tick off my 'Thai to-do' list and would I definitely go back for more.[/QUOTE]Cunning Stunt. What a transformation. Beach Road to Devils Den? Why did you take so long to tick this one off your to do list? Must have made some kind of change to the usual beauties from the beach road and 500 Baht? She came to your hotel but you will be going back for more? Yes, sure you will. Where are the pictures of you in your moment of glory? Thought you of all people should understand about value for money and it's not this place. So if you do go back for more? Remember to be careful. Not sure how legal this type of place is so watch out for the boys in brown.
[QUOTE=N Parky;1147864]... Not sure how legal this type of place is so watch out for the boys in brown.[/QUOTE]Prostitution as a whole is illegal in Thailand, anyway.
When I say "similar" I mean a place where you are imersed in an atmosphere of nonstop sexual carnaval.
With the wide selection of girls, reasonable prices, and geographic size as Pattaya. I've been to Sosua in DR which is reminicent but still comparatively small. I'm just curious if theres any other country with a city offering a "Pattaya like" experience.
Hey guys. One more question for you. I've been to Pattaya many times and visited the three soapies close to Big Cs mall. I'm just curious if there are any I don't know about because thats all I know. Also what have your experiences.
With Devil's Den been like? I already know they're pricey, but do they have the girls they advertise; how do they look in person; performance; ect.
[QUOTE=Pusylicker; 1146338]I am coming to Pattaya 2nd May for a week, & looking for Russian girls. I know the place in Bangkok for Russians like Rajah hotel, CM2 disco & Mike hotel.
Can anyone please give me some idea?
KAM[/QUOTE]A five minute walk from VC hotel (closed to walking street) you will find a dull motel with a few middle aged not so pretty Russian / uzbek girls sits under a shade in front of the motel.
[QUOTE=N Parky;1147864]Cunning Stunt. What a transformation. Beach Road to Devils Den? Why did you take so long to tick this one off your to do list? Must have made some kind of change to the usual beauties from the beach road and 500 Baht? She came to your hotel but you will be going back for more? Yes, sure you will. Where are the pictures of you in your moment of glory? Thought you of all people should understand about value for money and it's not this place. So if you do go back for more? Remember to be careful. Not sure how legal this type of place is so watch out for the boys in brown.[/QUOTE]Guess I'm getting profligate as I get older. Was about to book a 5000 baht escort in Bangkok on my first night in town, until I banged my head against a wall and came to my senses. But 2000 for 2 pops with a cute young thing willing to do anything to please you, is hardly pushing the boat out. Imagine what that would cost back home!
No pics allowed with Devils Den girls. She wouldn't even permit a fully clothed shot of her in her personalized wrap around with the Devils Den motif embroidered on the back.
Of course, I enjoyed Beach Road's inimical pleasures as well, despite the frigging Songkran tat stalls that elbowed out the girls for most of my visit. Here's one of the business end of a rather shy 19 year old that I found sat on the steps outside Central Mall.
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1147544]Tried a Devils Imp for the first time last night. Impressed by their professionalism. Booked a girl to come to my hotel room and she arrived 5 minutes early.
Allysia was my choice, a tall, slender chick whose legs seem to go on forever and on her big heels seemed to be towering over me. She was very submissive and did whatever I asked of her including a great BJ / CIM and Ass play in several positions. Good fun but I suspect that she had had a long day and was a little tired.
But another tick off my 'Thai to-do' list and would I definitely go back for more.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a great time CS.
I tried it three times first time in their own short time rooms and the sex swing broke and then the girl Cake kept on saying 'jep jep jep' finally had to let her go yet the charges were paid in full second and the third time they were out calls with lek and party lek would not go anal and party couldn't take me in completely and kept on pushing me back.
Frankly speaking DD is WAY OVERPRICED as compared to any other gogo bars even in Walking Street with some real stunners and the publicty is way over hyped but IF by any luck you get your bang for the buck then why not?
I'll give it a try once more and see if things have changed but certainly not with any of those three.
FK
[quote=pro fesseur;1147900]prostitution as a whole is illegal in thailand, anyway.[/quote]true. but the law is never enforced unless the girl is ****d.
Strolling through walking street last night and I observed the first GAY bar opened in there down on the left hand side named GUYS so I sat down in a bar next to them and they told me that two more gay bars are under way.
FK
[QUOTE=Free Kick; 1148141]Glad you had a great time CS.
I tried it three times first time in their own short time rooms and the sex swing broke and then the girl Cake kept on saying 'jep jep jep' finally had to let her go yet the charges were paid in full second and the third time they were out calls with lek and party lek would not go anal and party couldn't take me in completely and kept on pushing me back.
Frankly speaking DD is WAY OVERPRICED as compared to any other gogo bars even in Walking Street with some real stunners and the publicty is way over hyped but IF by any luck you get your bang for the buck then why not?
I'll give it a try once more and see if things have changed but certainly not with any of those three.
FK[/QUOTE]For 2,000 baht, a Devil's Den girl will come to your room for 90 minutes. This isn't really that much more than arranging a ST takeout from a gogo. For example, I took a fox out of Champagne to the Pasadena Lodge and paid 1,000 baht to the lady and a 550 baht bar fine, for a total of 1,550 baht, not including the bill for a couple of drinks.
Having said this, the Den is somewhat overpriced! I definitely enjoyed hooking up with Maggie and Taylor, both hot and highly recommended (but no anal).
[QUOTE=Free Kick; 1148181]Strolling through walking street last night and I observed the first GAY bar opened in there down on the left hand side named GUYS so I sat down in a bar next to them and they told me that two more gay bars are under way.
FK[/QUOTE]Just check where you are sitting next time. So that you do not sit in one of them! LOL.
Often new bars just take the place of an old one! .
[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter;1148247]For 2,000 baht, a Devil's Den girl will come to your room for 90 minutes. This isn't really that much more than arranging a ST takeout from a gogo.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Also about the same price as Bangkok with a Tulip / Mango / Snow White service provider. An expensive option for Pattaya considering a Beach Road SW can be had for 500b ST.
I will be heading to Patts again in June and plan on doing at least 1 incall and 1 outcall with the Devil Den ladies.
SunLover
I just returned from another great trip in the LOS. The last couple of trips, I just skipped Bangkok and hightailed it to Pattaya. There is a reason that this was my 3rd trip within a year; the multiple venues that Pattaya has to offer:
Open air bars. Silly games and watching kick boxing.
Short time bars. Located pretty much everywhere.
Blow job bars. Such as Pump Station.
Massage places.
Go Go bars. A plenty.
Down & dirty clubs. D / D, Windmill, X-Zone, & Babydolls.
Freelancers- Coconut Bar, Beer Garden, Discos, Walking Street and some even gents enjoy the woods.
Plus, the beach is an added extra which I enjoy, not Pattaya, but Jomtiem for me.
If I missed any venues, please feel free to chime in.
I also feel that safety is never a concern. I have been going to Pattaya since 1978 and never had a single problem. Sure, there are a few drunks running around, but Pattaya is so big, they are easy to avoid.
Flight: I now fly directly from LAX to Bangkok via Thai Airways. It does cost a bit more, but no 2-4 hours layovers, so I get more time on the ground. 17 hours over and 14 back. Good food and great service.
Hotel: I will not stay anywhere besides the Penthouse. Great staff, wacked out rooms designed for sex, and 24 hour room service. See report in PH forum for more.
Clubs:
X-Zone.
I spent time in X-Zone every night because I know Mamasan, the girls, and the staff; love the place. It appeared that my favorite girl, Puy, had trained her pussy to perform new tricks since my last visit. She can now blow a cute horn, smoke cigarettes, and shoot darts. I was leaving one night, but Mamasan stopped me because she wanted me to see her new show, and she was buying; hell yeah! At one point of the show, some customers, including me, held up balloons. Puy was on target and hit all of them, including mine. But, after the dart popped my balloon, the dart ricocheted and actuality stuck in the top of my head. I yelled,"Medic!" but only a server came to my rescue.
The crazy Korean (CK) was also in full form. She put on some weight and was just as wacky as ever. Every night she made it a point to pull my shorts aside and suck me while I was sitting in the booth. One time, she looked up and said,"Your cock is perfect for my ass." My first thought was,"Hell yeah it is!" Then I pondered my first thought and then my second thought was,"Hey, wait a minute, what exactly are you saying?"
My only disappointment of the X-Zone was my kinky dream was gone. My first night's goal was to barfine the triplets and play naked twister back at the Penthouse. So I was skipping down walking street with the triplets in mind, thoughts of jacuzzi operations, twister fun, and then playing "Who's next." Ran up the stairs and through the curtain; no triplets! I counseled Mamasan, but she reassured me that she had a set of twins about to turn 18 and they would be of age and ready for my next trip.
Babydolls.
I was told about this place from the owner of Sin Bin. I stopped in one night and discovered I really liked the place. The first person I met was Mamasan, then the second was Mamasan Su, who just left the business for personal reasons. I was quite fond of Mamasan Su and I know the club will miss her. The shows in Babydolls are not as raunchy as in the Z-Xone; but there are some hot women in the place. They all wear little outfits with no panties; love it. One night the girls were wearing little sailor outfits; anchors aweigh!
Sweethearts.
I was about to pass the place, but then I saw the sign that happy hour was until 10pm, and I've never been, so I wondered in the place. I really liked this place as well; especially the girls and the extended happy hour. The place has mirrors on both sides, so you can see an infinity of asses. The only negative thing about this place was that the girls seemed to lack personally (smiles and such). But because I love asses, I could have spent a week in there. However, happy hour was over at 10; so I left.
Tahitian Queen 2.
It was the night before the big water fight (18th) , and I saw their sign that said 2 for 1 drinks, so I figured "what the hell" and stopped in. Sat at the bar, and a cutie named Cham came by to introduce herself to my penis; nice approach. She told me she would show me some of her favorite places later on, as well as hang with me the next day during the massive water fight. Told her I was on my way to the X-Zone, but would come back in a couple of hours to pick her up.
When I did return, she had been doing some tequila shots and half drunk, but I thought she might be fun anyway; off we went. We headed to Soi 8 and hung out for awhile in some open bar with a band and did some shots there, plus had some food, but not enough apparently. We then headed over to Tahitian Queen on Beach Road, at which point she was about wasted. She started pissing off some of the people that were playing with water outside, so I said enough and told her let's walk a bit. There was an outdoor disco set-up on the Beach Road sidewalk. I figured dancing would help her sober a bit, so we danced for about 30 minutes; didn't work.
Back at the room, I filled the jacuzzi and added my friend Mr. Bubble. A few times I lost her in the bubbles and thought that maybe she went under and might drown. We played for a bit and then I dried her off because I did not want her slipping and cracking her head open on the floor. She found the dance pole and then went at it for about 15 minutes; she was entertaining. Ordered room service and got some more food into her. Then she told me,"Let's go back out!" I told her,"It's 5am, I'm old and tired, and if you want to go back out, have a blast!" And she left. I almost felt relieved.
Discos.
I never really indulged in the disco scene, primarily because I only wear a t-shirt, shorts, and flip-flops (the uniform of the day in Pattaya). However, Mr Enternational convinced me that clothing would not be an issue, so I went to a couple. One night I pulled a sweetie out of Lucifer. Had no idea just how big that place was, and there were many available women throughout the place. On another night, I pulled a cutie out of Candy Shop, a lot smaller than Lucifer; but still a good selection of women available. Thank you Mr. E.
Songkran.
I booked this trip in early January based on my spring break, had no idea what Songkran was, nor did I know when it was. I will admit, I was a bit apprehensive once I started reading about it here on ISG. LittleBigMan gave me some tips on how to keep things dry and such; thank you. Thus, I did come prepared and embraced the event; for the most part. The 19th was a blast in Pattaya. The entire Beach Road was closed to traffic and all hell broke loose (water wise). I did not care for the bastards that filled their guns and cannons with ice water; but everything else was fun. I would suggest that if you have a bucket list, put Songkran in Pattaya on your list. Would I do it again? Nope, my bucket list is too damn long.
Final few hours in Pattaya:
I was packed and ready to go by 1:00, but the car was not leaving for the airport until 3:30. So I had another "what the hell" moment and headed down Soi 6. I'm walking and shopping for a cutie that would catch my eye, it was early, but still a good amount of women in front of the bars yelling,"Welcome." A tiny cutie in pigtails caught my attention, she worked at the Red Point bar. We went in and I got a drink and during our limited conversation, she asked,"Do you want to fuck my ass?" The deal was settled within seconds!
During mid-stroke, the sky opened up and it starting raining like hell. The storm came out of nowhere, at least nowhere for me, because I don't watch the weather channel in my room. I knew I had to be back by 3:30 for my ride to the airport, so I still had time. Stepped outside the Red Point, the rain seemed to come down harder. There were some cuties next door at the Lisa bar, so I went over there, got a drink, set outside with the girls, and waited for an ark to pass by. About 3:20, it slowed down enough for me to reach the Beach Road and catch a ride. Beach Road was flooded! Got a ride back to the hotel for 150, damn prices do rise during severe weather conditions!
Where can I go and watch kickboxing in Pattaya or is it not possible. I am not talking about the bullshit show they put on in the beer bars when going into the beer garden?
Thanks in advance, Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter; 1148634]Where can I go and watch kickboxing in Pattaya or is it not possible. I am not talking about the bullshit show they put on in the beer bars when going into the beer garden?
Thanks in advance, Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]Every now and then they have matches upstairs at Mike's shopping. But it might work out better if you try to catch one in Bangkok. [url]http://www.bangkok.com/recreational-tours/thaiboxing.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter; 1148634]Where can I go and watch kickboxing in Pattaya or is it not possible. I am not talking about the bullshit show they put on in the beer bars when going into the beer garden?
Thanks in advance, Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]Last high season / last winter, pick-up trucks were constantly circling Pattaya, advertising / blaring out that kick boxing was available (at a small stadium not far away). If you hung around beach road, you could not have missed it.
Not sure about low season. They should have something in the low season; Pattaya has a lot of people.
Of course the best quality kickboxing will be in Bangkok.
Be advised Muai Thai nights aren't cheap. 1,500 baths or more. Buy you have multiple matches and a T-shirt.
Thanks andMr. E and Greenbud on the subject. I think I remember the trucks trecking around around announcing kickboxing but not sure. Mr. E, I will be in Pattaya may 17. Would love to meet up with a vet for a night or 2. First rounds on me of course.
Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1148621]The shows in Babydolls are not as raunchy as in the Z-Xone; but there are some hot women in the place.[/QUOTE]Tell that to the guy who was up to his ears in the pussy of the girl on the table, last time I was there.
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter; 1148634]Where can I go and watch kickboxing in Pattaya or is it not possible. I am not talking about the bullshit show they put on in the beer bars when going into the beer garden?
Thanks in advance, Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]Hi,
Three years ago I was in Pattaya and was looking for the same thing. It wasn't easy. Eventually I found that there is a big stadium outside town. I got there by motorbike taxi and it took about ten or fifteen minutes driving on the highway outside town. Haven't a clue where I was, but I was taken on a detour to somewhere off the South road first. The driver didn't know where to go and had to ask.
Cost was 1, 000 baht for the Muay Thai boxing and it included a multitude of matches, starting with the kids and moving up to the main event. Probably not advisable to go too early. Good Muay Thai in Koh Samui as well. Now two stadia and none of your 'for tourist' crap. Once saw a Brit beat the living shit out of the local champ. Certainly not often you see that happen. Otherwise in Samui you can get the Bangkok regional champ against the local champ, sparks fly and it's a grudge match.
Muay Thai (proper) is available in Pattaya, but you have to make sure that you are going to the right place.
Good luck,
Expatcat
Heading to Pattaya in late May. Can anyone give me the latest on pricing, talents, hotel situations? Should I head to Phuket or Ching Mai instead of Pattaya?
So took my first trip to Thailand last week. (I usually travel in Latin and South America and parts of Europe). I stayed in Pattaya for a week.
I went during their New Year celebrations. I figured it would be over by April 15 or 16. So I arrived on the 16th. But the festivities ended up going on until April 19. So walking down the streets in Pattaya during this time means getting soaked with water. Its their tradition to have water guns and squirt / soak passers by. Everyone was doing it everywhere, including the tourists. Its all good fun, but I wished it only lasted one day!
Pattaya itself is basically a party city with beach. Its somewhat crazy. There literally hundreds of bar-hotels (and some with restaurants). All these bars have girls that are available. In addition there's all the Go-Go bars in the Walking district area and the area around Areca hotel. There's probably more go-go bars, but I had enough fun in these two areas and not enough time to explore other parts.
There's also lots of guys from northern Europe here on extended holiday stays of 1-3 months or retired. Came across several of them in the bars during the day and had good converstaions with them.
Beers prices are fairly cheap at $2 (60-70 Baht) at most bars and in the Go-Go bars around $3-4. Drinks for ladies seems to be set at around $4 everywhere.
Food was also cheap. Most decent meals were costing me around $5-7 including a non-alcoholic drink. Breakfast was included in my hotel, but otherwise costs around $4.
I did some research on this forum first and decided to stay at Penthouse and booked for 2 nights. I think it was a mistake and I am so glad I only booked 2 nights. They have a policy of you paying up front and in the event you change your mind and want to leave earlier. Well tough luck.
The things I didn't like about the Penthouse was that the room is "over sexed". Its more like a room you rent by the hour. The bed and covers are also somewhat run down and dated. In general the furnishings aren't that great in the room. Given that your paying $60-70 in Pattaya. The shower in the bathroom isn't separted, so its all one big room and so when you take a shower, water gets everywhere. I asked if all the room showers were like this, and yes there are unless you get the onese with Jacuzzi (which cost more) in them. The room I had alos had very poor lighting and hardly any natural lighting.
The biggest con about the Penthouse was go-go bar assoicated with the hotel, Kittens, which is right next door. Well 2/3 of the dancers there are lady boys! And the penthouse is located right in BoysTown. Also on the tv there are 3 porn channels, but two of them are gay! Not sure why these facts weren't posted about this hotel in the forum. I wouldn't recommend staying here. For a hotel that's supposed to cater to us straight guys and advertises here on ISG. Why such a gay theme to the hotel! I have nothing against gays, but I don't want it in my face either.
The one thing I did like about the Penthouse was having all those wall sized mirrors in the room. Pretty much on 3 sides of the room and a wall sized one in the bathroom. So when having sex with the girl in the room, looking at her in the mirrors was kind of a pleasant turn on for me. Still I would not return to the Penthouse. Unless they fixed up the bathroom, got new bedding in there, and ensured only girl dancers in the go-go bar.
I ended up moving out of Penthouse and staying at a nearby bar-hotel-restaurant. They have about 10 rooms. I took one of the large rooms for 800 Baht ($27) a night. It was a good sized room, tiled floors, decent basic furnishings. There seem to be literally dozens of places like this in Pattaya. Probably worth the effort to take one afternoon off and go visit a bunch of hotels and find one that you like. I looked at few hotels (some 4 stars as well) before deciding on this one. For my last 2 nights I decided to upgrade and stayed at Bayview Residence. All the places I looked at have no girl (joiner) fees and only asked for her I'd to be left at the front desk. Only one hotel charged a fee if you brought more than one girl. So basically if you find yourself paying a joiner fee in Pattaya your needlessy wasting your money.
I ended up basically partying every night until around 4-5am. Getting up around 1pm or so. Then doing the same again! Was paying around 1000-1500 Baht for a girl for around 3 hours. Only once I took a girl for all night. Cost 2000. Bar fines were anywhere from 300-600 Baht. Never had problems with the girls back in my room. Always got BBBJ's, good massages, good sex. Only once was there an issue. Took one of the bartending girls from the Walking district area back to my room around 3am. Still had to pay the bar fine. 300. Got to my room and she was pretty much giving me attitude from the start. After 30mins of this I said if she didn't change I wasnt going to pay her. Well she was pissed off at this, but got dressed and left with no money.
In term of places to go. Its everywhere. The Go-GO bars in Walking district are prettly much all the same. They literally have dozens of girls dancing, all of them are pretty much good looking, mostly all 7-8's. Bottle beers are 120 Baht. Same price for drinks for girls. Draft beer is 60. The clubs stay open until 3am. The Walking dristict was always packed full of toursits. Didn't think it would be as crowded as it was for this time of year. The area around Areca hotel also has lots of go-go clubs and in general a good scene going on. If I go back to Pattaya, I will very likely end up staying at this hotel. Soi 7 and 8 also has tons of bars with girls. Never made it out to Soi 6. But I heard you can get BJ's there on SOi 6 while having your drink.
In terms of massage parlours. Looks like there are 2 places that have the monopoly. All the taxi guys and guys hustling you on the street mention only these two places. If you ask if there are others, these guys claim that there are not. These two places are called Honey and Rasputin. I went to both to get a look. Both are very classy setup. The girls are one side, behind a glass partition, sitting down. You can see them, they can see you, but you can't talk to them. The girls are all good looking. The girls are divided into different colours. The colour dictates the price. It either 1800 or 2500 for 1. 5 hours. The rooms are very nice, each has a large bathtub shower, large nice bed, large screen tv. All kinds fo soaps, and moistuizers. Very clean, there's staff up here as well for towels, drinks etc. I took advantage once. A girl from Honey for 2500. Got a great body on body massage in the bathtub. She only did CBJ. But it was great one at that. She was telling me each girl is different and she didn't do BBBJ. But then again I didn't offer her more money and she was doing a good job with the CBJ I didn't care. The sex was good too. Overall I had a very postive experience. But then again for 2500 here in Pattaya you should. These two places are open from noon to midnight.
I ended up finding another massage place. Called something like Teen Dream Girls massage. Its in the same area as Kiss, Office, Submarine, etc go-go bars. Just down 2 more blocks. Not as fancy a setup as Honey. The rates are for 1, 1.5 or 2 hours. Around 500-900 Baht. But that price only includes the room, massage and handjob. For anything else with the girl you have to negotiate with her. I took a girl once. Was giving a good message and handjob, but her clothes didn't come off. She was asking for 1000 more just for a BBBJ, no sex. For sex wanted another 500. WTF. So anyways paid another 1000 for the BBBJ. For these prices, the Honey club is way better. I'm sure there's a lot more (cheaper) massage parlours out there.
There's also lots of normal Thai massage parlours everywhere. These are great. For about 200 Baht you get a 1 hour lower leg and foot massage or back and shoulder massage. There's literally hundreds of these places all over the place. In fact you can be relaxing on the beach in one of those chairs, and there's these massage girls walking about giving foot massages.
Finally, one piece of informational story. It was late one night, around 2:30am. I ended up at the bars right before entering Walking district. I walked around and spotted this one cute girl sitting by herself talking with the staff. We made eye contact. So approached her. Talked with her for a bit. Bought her a drink. She's 20 years old, very bubbly. Deciced to take her back to my room. Bar fine was 300. And she asked for 1000 for 2-3 hours. I agreed. Had a great time with her. Did everything, starting with a shower together. We got to talking. Turns out she works in the day at the Honey massage parlour. Says she makes around 50K Baht a month and takes care of all her family including parents. She doesn't have a kid. Sometimes she has sex up to 5-6 times a day at Honey. In contrast the go-go dancers on Walking street make around 8K-10K Baht a month. But thats just on tips, etc no sex, if they go for sex thats extra for them.
My total cost for a 7 night trip (excluding airfare) was $1700. Includes hotel, food, drinks, bar fines, girls, taxi's (including taxi's to and from airport) , and even some shorts, tshirts I picked up. Had about 12 girls over these 7 days.
[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter; 1148247]For 2, 000 baht, a Devil's Den girl will come to your room for 90 minutes. This isn't really that much more than arranging a ST takeout from a gogo. For example, I took a fox out of Champagne to the Pasadena Lodge and paid 1, 000 baht to the lady and a 550 baht bar fine, for a total of 1, 550 baht, not including the bill for a couple of drinks.
Having said this, the Den is somewhat overpriced! I definitely enjoyed hooking up with Maggie and Taylor, both hot and highly recommended (but no anal). [/QUOTE]Wow now thats surprising 2000 baht only because I paid 3500 4500 and 4000 so either I'm too ugly or I got overcharged like we always do if they find us to be newbies my fault but good to know you got it for 2000 baht but the primary issue is that the girls don't perform as promised either.
Still ill give it one last try if not just stick to the gogos as I don't like getting overcharged.
FK
How was Rasputin massage? Thanks for the heads up on Honey. I had that in my plans next month, but I am not paying 1800-2500 for CBJ. U could have knocked off a couple hundred baght at Teen Dream. But then again as long as you had fun and comfortable with what you paid, that's all that really matters.
Beaverhunter
Thanks to you regarding the report of the Penthouse Hotel. In July I will be the second time in Pattaya and wanted to stay for some days in Penthouse. But seems like I better do not.
Let's see where I will stay.
[QUOTE=Leggy11;1149121]Agree with you Tom. By the way I had a friend in town last week and he got drenched walking past the Penthouse from somebody throwing water from one of the balconies. Was this you?[/QUOTE]It is possible. On the 17th, the girl and I was walking from 2nd road down the Soi to the hotel when we took a bucket of water from the 4th floor, the Army guy below me in 418. On the 18th, we joined NATO forces and were launching aerial assaults from both balconies in the afternoon and early evening.
But I blame the Army guy!
Six of us headed into Pattaya for the New Year Celebrations and we had an absolute blast. Most of us knew what to expect and we all bought spray guns. For three days we patrolled the streets drenching people and being drenched. It's really strange that people walk around Pattaya at this time of year and don't know what to expect. Many times we saw guys asking not to be sprayed and this only encouraged the locals to drench them even more. So funny. This old German, he must have been about 70, stood on the second road around the soi 8 area even had his gun. A young Russian couple said no no and he just said ya ya and drenched them. Brilliant. The local police got a bit heavy. At one point they took a couple of our spray guns. Once we understood this the girls helped us and took the guns from us whenever the police were nearby. The 19th was a fantastic day. The whole city rocked and we rocked with them. Many of the girls were drunk and three of our group all managed short times and paid nothing. That's what they said anyway. Maybe they will write something.
As for the Penthouse. What a fantastic place. We were let down with our original accommodation and were lucky to get in. We didn't get exactly the types of rooms we wanted and we had to keep changing. We did have a balcony overlooking the street and we made the most of this to drench people as they walked by. Some old guy even complained to reception and we had a warning. We then had another call to tell us to carry on. They were very understanding and as long as we kept water out of the hotel they didn't mind. We have already booked our rooms for next year. We all loved the set up and strong sexual vibes. It's not a gay hotel. It just caters for everyone and most of the people we met were heterosexual and had girls with them. The location is great and not quite in Boys Town. Sure we saw a few ladyboys but so what. This is Pattaya and they are everywhere.
The DD prices are right on their website:
[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/Out-Call.php[/url]
For 90 min. Outcall. 2000B for 1 girl. 4000B for 2.
[QUOTE=Leggy11;1149121]Agree with you Tom. By the way I had a friend in town last week and he got drenched walking past the Penthouse from somebody throwing water from one of the balconies. Was this you?[/QUOTE]This could have been my group Leggy. For a few days we were drenching people as they walked past the Penthouse.
[QUOTE=DocTimmy; 1149208]Thanks to you regarding the report of the Penthouse Hotel. In July I will be the second time in Pattaya and wanted to stay for some days in Penthouse. But seems like I better do not.
Let's see where I will stay.[/QUOTE]Don't waste your time looking for anywhere else DocTimmy. The Penthouse is the place to stay. Six of us just had a fantastic time there and another guy just reported about his stay and that he will not stay anywhere else. Make sure you review the forums properly DocTimmy. You don't want to miss out on a opportunity that you might actually enjoy. It's a party hotel and a great place for sex. But if you are not a party person looking for great sex then you better do not. Let's see where will he stay?
Thank for yoor tip.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=DRobin;1147966]A five minute walk from VC hotel (closed to walking street) you will find a dull motel with a few middle aged not so pretty Russian / uzbek girls sits under a shade in front of the motel.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Richmond72; 1149346]The DD prices are right on their website:
[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/Out-Call.php[/url]
For 90 min. Outcall. 2000B for 1 girl. 4000B for 2.[/QUOTE]Thanks I had seen their site and prices before goin in.
I remember being given some bullshit about different girls different prices since the first time so I didn't argue further and I had to pay upfront which I've never had to do in any of the gogos.
So either the DD staff is scamming people or comes from the management itself.
The Penthouse Hotel sure seems to stir up a lot of emotions. Its mere mention is pretty much banned on the Pattaya-specific forum I signed up for recently. LOL.
[QUOTE=Free Kick; 1149111]Wow now thats surprising 2000 baht only because I paid 3500 4500 and 4000 so either I'm too ugly or I got overcharged like we always do if they find us to be newbies my fault but good to know you got it for 2000 baht but the primary issue is that the girls don't perform as promised either.
Still ill give it one last try if not just stick to the gogos as I don't like getting overcharged.
FK[/QUOTE]The 2, 000 baht price I quoted was for ONE lady only, an option only available for outcall. While I didn't find some of the ladies as attractive in person as they appeared on the web site, every one of them performed admirably, offering every service advertised, with gusto.
[QUOTE=Richmond72;1149729]The Penthouse Hotel sure seems to stir up a lot of emotions. Its mere mention is pretty much banned on the Pattaya-specific forum I signed up for recently. LOL.[/QUOTE]
Go to that specific thread! Penthouse Hoel Read from the beginning and hopefully you can read between the lines from what post is left and the comments by Jackson as to why certain post were deleted? Pay specific attention to the clubs that are mentioned and the location of the hotel.
Good luck, LBM
[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter;1149747]The 2, 000 baht price I quoted was for ONE lady only, an option only available for outcall. While I didn't find some of the ladies as attractive in person as they appeared on the web site, every one of them performed admirably, offering every service advertised, with gusto.[/QUOTE]Yeah I'm talking about ONE lady only for 3500, ONE lady only for 4500 and ONE lady only for 4000.
Thats why I call it a rip off because they're not providing as promised on their site neither the price nor the quality that the girls would do everything.
The whole operation of their business seems kinda under the hood covert type.
But then we can't expect more from a brothel LOL
Does anyone know if these is a ups office in Pattaya?
Thanks!
FK
[QUOTE=Free Kick; 1149848]Does anyone know if these is a ups office in Pattaya?
Thanks!
FK[/QUOTE]Big C second floor, if I remember correctly. But does it belong here?
[QUOTE=Mr SilvioB; 1147942]When I say "similar" I mean a place where you are imersed in an atmosphere of nonstop sexual carnaval.
With the wide selection of girls, reasonable prices, and geographic size as Pattaya. I've been to Sosua in DR which is reminicent but still comparatively small. I'm just curious if theres any other country with a city offering a "Pattaya like" experience. [/QUOTE]Angeles City, Philippines.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City[/url]
[QUOTE=Leggy11;1149786]I think it is common knowledge that the banning has nothing to do with the hotel and is more related to politics.[/QUOTE]Yes, I figured it was a personal thing. I just thought it was funny when I came across some posts on that board where the word "Penthouse" was censored and replaced with some other random words.
[QUOTE=Free Kick; 1149848]Does anyone know if these is a ups office in Pattaya?
Thanks!
FK[/QUOTE]Carrefour, next door to the coffee shop 94 and the book store, opposite the food court!
LBM
[QUOTE=Richmond72;1149729]The Penthouse Hotel sure seems to stir up a lot of emotions.[/QUOTE]Yup. And I am not sure why. It is just a hotel. I stayed at the Penthouse last year. Enjoyed it well enough. Posted an honest review on this message board. Will consider staying there again in June. That is about it. No drama here.
SunLover
Friends,
Do the bars in WS still have a policy of not allowing non-whites? I have seen this reduced in the last 2 years. Can anyone update the latest scene?
Regrads,
KOOL
[QUOTE=Koolshot737;1150194]Do the bars in WS still have a policy of not allowing non-whites?[/QUOTE]They still have a policy of refusing whoever they want to refuse. If you look like you'll spend money and cause no trouble for them, you should get in.
[QUOTE=Koolshot737;1150194]Do the bars in WS still have a policy of not allowing non-whites? I have seen this reduced in the last 2 years. Can anyone update the latest scene?[/QUOTE]With more and more people of color coming to Pattaya, most of the bars will eventually have to adjust their color coded eyeglasses to survive! Other than disliking men that are cheap or smell bad, the ladies really don't seem to care.
[QUOTE=Koolshot737; 1150194]Friends,
Do the bars in WS still have a policy of not allowing non-whites? I have seen this reduced in the last 2 years. Can anyone update the latest scene?
Regrads,
KOOL[/QUOTE]I never saw any discrimination of non-whites but I did see a place that wanted to keep mohammadeans out.
[QUOTE=Edward M;1150236]I never saw any discrimination of non-whites but I did see a place that wanted to keep mohammadeans out.[/QUOTE]That sign is fucked up. LOL. I'm black and the only time I have been discriminated against was when I was trying to go into that Japanese spot on the corner of Soi 5 and Beach Road. I told the mf I was Japanese and started speaking Japanese but he still would not let me near the door.
When I was in Pattaya over last Christmas and New Year's, on several occasions girls preferred staying in the bar to being barfined. We presumed they made more money this way.
Is this typical of the high season or is this a new all-year-round trend?
[QUOTE=Free Kick; 1149845]Yeah I'm talking about ONE lady only for 3500, ONE lady only for 4500 and ONE lady only for 4000.
Thats why I call it a rip off because they're not providing as promised on their site neither the price nor the quality that the girls would do everything. [/QUOTE]Just to be absolutely clear, you went to DD and asked for one girl for outcall for 2 hours, and they charged you 3500 - 4500 Bht?
Seems odd, given that the prices are clearly displayed on their web page.
I've had a few minor issues with DD but blatant overcharging has never been one.
[QUOTE=Free Kick; 1149845]Yeah I'm talking about ONE lady only for 3500, ONE lady only for 4500 and ONE lady only for 4000.
Thats why I call it a rip off because they're not providing as promised on their site neither the price nor the quality that the girls would do everything.
The whole operation of their business seems kinda under the hood covert type.
But then we can't expect more from a brothel LOL[/QUOTE]How long did you take the girls for?
From what I've seen, DD has one of the least covert operations in Pattaya. Pics and videos of the girls are readily available on their site. Price list right there. And they have a live webcam. The only way they could be more open would be to stream the girls actually servicing the customers.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1150527]When I was in Pattaya over last Christmas and New Year's, on several occasions girls preferred staying in the bar to being barfined. ..trend?[/QUOTE]Hmmm. I think readers and members of this site ought to make a point of complaining to the mamasans / management. And perhaps point out to the fellow punters in the bar about the situation. Having girls unwilling to participate in extracurricular fun is a GREAT way to kill business, or a town altogether. Otherwise you might as well go to a strip club in Sex Prison USA. And I'd like to see just how Patts would survive as a strictly family-friendly tourist destination (ugh, yup, good luck with that one, when you have honestly beautiful places in the LOS like Phuket or god knows how many even more pristine places.) I, for one, will sound out (in the face-saving way Asians appreciate, nevertheless) loudly if I come across this on my visit to Patts 20-25 June.
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1150901]Hmmm. I think readers and members of this site ought to make a point of complaining to the mamasans / management. And perhaps point out to the fellow punters in the bar about the situation. Having girls unwilling to participate in extracurricular fun is a GREAT way to kill business, or a town altogether.[/QUOTE]Me and my friends thought it was the mamasans' idea, since the girls are bound to make more money for the bar attracting beer drinkers and getting ladydrinks than being barfined.
This happened with several girls and at several bars in the first "Rolling Stones" beer-bar complex to right on walking street.
That's concerning since I play to be in Pattaya over the holiday season this year. I was under the impression that bar girls didn't make that much off of lady drinks so I don't see how that is more profitable than getting a barfine.
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1150527]When I was in Pattaya over last Christmas and New Year's, on several occasions girls preferred staying in the bar to being barfined. We presumed they made more money this way.
Is this typical of the high season or is this a new all-year-round trend? [/QUOTE]Or maybe did not want to suck and open legs for a farang in such a night, preferring to work in the bar with some fun, with friends around to drink (and still amke some money)
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1150527]When I was in Pattaya over last Christmas and New Year's, on several occasions girls preferred staying in the bar to being barfined. We presumed they made more money this way.
Is this typical of the high season or is this a new all-year-round trend? [/QUOTE]During the height of high season the bg's do become very choosy about who and what they do. There is a lot of money and fun to be had with their friends by just staying put in their own bar.
I have found that early December just before the peak of high season they are much more eager to be barfined.
Low season also has its advantages for barfining as long as you can tolerate the high humidity and some rain.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1150959]Me and my friends thought it was the mamasans' idea, since the girls are bound to make more money for the bar attracting beer drinkers and getting ladydrinks than being barfined. This happened with several girls and at several bars in the first "Rolling Stones" beer-bar complex to right on walking street.[/QUOTE]Very little happens by chance at most well-run Thai 'entertainment' bars. The management has staff meetings, drink quotas, barfine incentives, etc, to make the club as much money as possible. Only then does the lady have an opportunity to make her own little "tip" outside the bar.
If a bargirl indicates for any reason that she does not want to go with a particular punter, this is a pretty good indication of how a 'forced' liaison will play out. Best advice is to just move on and find a different, more willing, playmate.
Heck, there's literally thousands upon thousand of Pattaya bargirls working in high season. You can't shake a stick without whacking one on her tush!
[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/bus.php[/url]
So the DD has come up with a pretty good idea to kick off or end your holiday in style.
Unfortunately it is for very deep pocketed customers only.
At 18000 baht I'm not sure I'll ever be able (or willing) to afford it, bur sure enough the whole idea is enticing.
I sure hope some well oiled brother will try it soon and report it.
Ryo
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1151288][url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/bus.php[/url]
So the DD has come up with a pretty good idea to kick off or end your holiday in style.
Unfortunately it is for very deep pocketed customers only.
At 18000 baht I'm not sure I'll ever be able (or willing) to afford it, bur sure enough the whole idea is enticing.
I sure hope some well oiled brother will try it soon and report it.
Ryo[/QUOTE]Dam, when I was at DD's in Sept. The owner told me about this service but was charging 12, 000 Baght. This included having the 2 girls for the night not just for the transportation to Pattaya.
In the middle of June I have about 1 week's holiday I was thinking to stay maybe in Bangkok maybe I Pattaya and I am traveling alone. What do you think it is the best plan? To stay in either of these places for 1 week or to split between them somehow? I have been to Bangkok 3-4 times and I know places pretty well but in Pattaya I was only 1 short visit.
I know in BKK if I book a hotel in Sukhumvit then everything is near but I don't know Pattaya. I think when I was there 1 night the hotel was in soi 8. Is it a walking distance from there to soi 6? I don't like to rent a motorbike. Any other ideas how to spend a holiday? Everything in Pattaya far? Of course it is my choice but I appreciate advice. Are there better gogos in walking street than in Cowboy / Nana? At least I think if you have ST the prices are much lower in Pattaya these days. I just look to relax, have a few beers, visit gogos, chat with some girls and have many ST. Any of you guys around that time to maybe go have a beer or play pool?
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1151288][url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/bus.php[/url]
So the DD has come up with a pretty good idea to kick off or end your holiday in style.
Unfortunately it is for very deep pocketed customers only.
At 18000 baht I'm not sure I'll ever be able (or willing) to afford it, bur sure enough the whole idea is enticing.
I sure hope some well oiled brother will try it soon and report it.
Ryo[/QUOTE]Call me skeptical, but couldn't the same 2 girls have just finished a 2 hour ride from Pattaya to the airport giving a goodbye adventure to a lucky guy. And only minutes later have the driver spin around to the arrivals level to meet another guy starting his vacation?
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo; 1151945]In the middle of June I have about 1 week's holiday I was thinking to stay maybe in Bangkok maybe I Pattaya and I am traveling alone. What do you think it is the best plan? To stay in either of these places for 1 week or to split between them somehow? I have been to Bangkok 3-4 times and I know places pretty well but in Pattaya I was only 1 short visit.
I know in BKK if I book a hotel in Sukhumvit then everything is near but I don't know Pattaya. I think when I was there 1 night the hotel was in soi 8. Is it a walking distance from there to soi 6? I don't like to rent a motorbike. Any other ideas how to spend a holiday? Everything in Pattaya far? Of course it is my choice but I appreciate advice. Are there better gogos in walking street than in Cowboy / Nana? At least I think if you have ST the prices are much lower in Pattaya these days. I just look to relax, have a few beers, visit gogos, chat with some girls and have many ST. Any of you guys around that time to maybe go have a beer or play pool? [/QUOTE]I will be in Pattaya until June 12, I would say stay in Pattaya if you have been to BKK so many times. Look on the Agoda website for a room, I stayed at the Nova Platinum for 1200bt before and it is nice, new. There are many streets to explore there, nave fun.
[QUOTE=Edward M;1150236]I never saw any discrimination of non-whites but I did see a place that wanted to keep mohammadeans out.[/QUOTE]That sign takes me back. I bought one of those 20 years ago when I first visited Pattaya for a friend in Dubai to hang on the wall of his bar at home. . .
Ah, good times
Expatcat
[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1151948]Call me skeptical, but couldn't the same 2 girls have just finished a 2 hour ride from Pattaya to the airport giving a goodbye adventure to a lucky guy. And only minutes later have the driver spin around to the arrivals level to meet another guy starting his vacation?[/QUOTE]Sure why not? They'll be all warmed up, lubed, and ready for Round 2. Same chance you have as any other P4P woman in Thailand.
Of course, you could hire a taxi (1200 bht), and two Bangkok bargirls to suck and fuck you all the way to Pattaya (maybe 1500 each ST). Then take the slow route through Siracha and send them back in the car (1200 baht). As much fun for 1/3 the price, but not as private or roomy. Maybe bring a big beach towel.
Total: 5400 baht + tollway fees. Experience: Priceless. ;)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1151996]Sure why not? They'll be all warmed up, lubed, and ready for Round 2. Same chance you have as any other P4P woman in Thailand.
Of course, you could hire a taxi (1200 bht) , and two Bangkok bargirls to suck and fuck you all the way to Pattaya (maybe 1500 each ST). Then take the slow route through Siracha and send them back in the car (1200 baht). As much fun for 1/3 the price, but not as private or roomy. Maybe bring a big beach towel.
Total: 5400 baht + tollway fees. Experience: Priceless.[/QUOTE]I pay only 1000 baht from Bangkok to Pattaya, tollway included (a little bit less for my return trip from Pattaya to Bangkok). Anyway, the trip does not last long (about 90 minutes usually, and less than 2 hours in most cases) , so, it's better IMHO to be patient and to wait until you are in Pattaya to choose your playmates among thousands of girls: with the money that you are going to save on this trip, you may have several awesome threesomes, foursomes (etc.) in Pattaya!
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo; 1151945]In the middle of June I have about 1 week's holiday I was thinking to stay maybe in Bangkok maybe I Pattaya and I am traveling alone. What do you think it is the best plan? To stay in either of these places for 1 week or to split between them somehow? I have been to Bangkok 3-4 times and I know places pretty well but in Pattaya I was only 1 short visit.
I know in BKK if I book a hotel in Sukhumvit then everything is near but I don't know Pattaya. I think when I was there 1 night the hotel was in soi 8. Is it a walking distance from there to soi 6? I don't like to rent a motorbike. Any other ideas how to spend a holiday? Everything in Pattaya far? Of course it is my choice but I appreciate advice. Are there better gogos in walking street than in Cowboy / Nana? At least I think if you have ST the prices are much lower in Pattaya these days. I just look to relax, have a few beers, visit gogos, chat with some girls and have many ST. Any of you guys around that time to maybe go have a beer or play pool?[/QUOTE]Pattaya is cheaper than Bangkok (on average) , but Bangkok is more interesting for other matters (cultural stuff, for instance) and has more higher-end venues than Pattaya. If you come in Thailand mainly for the P4P scene, I would recommend to stay a bit more in Pattaya than in Bangkok (you can end your sojourn in Bangkok and stay there for the last 3 or 4 days, for instance).
In Pattaya, Soi 6 is near Soi 8 (about five minutes by walk, unless you are stopped on your way by the local girls, of course!). Many things are very near, but if you don't like to walk, you can use the local Songthaew (baht bus). It's cheap and not difficult to use, especially to go from Soi 6 to Walking Street (just take one at the junction with Beach Road). On the way back, just take one on Second Road, for instance.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songthaew[/url]
About the local go-go bars, many reviews are available for instance here: [url]http://www.pattayagogos.com/nllatest.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=Ryo Saeba; 1151288][url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/bus.php[/url]
So the DD has come up with a pretty good idea to kick off or end your holiday in style.
Unfortunately it is for very deep pocketed customers only.
At 18000 baht I'm not sure I'll ever be able (or willing) to afford it, bur sure enough the whole idea is enticing.
I sure hope some well oiled brother will try it soon and report it.
Ryo[/QUOTE]Sounds pretty bizarre and for the ultra-impatient / horny.
Knowing my luck, if I tried it, we would be stopped by a traffic cop!
[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1152098]Sounds pretty bizarre and for the ultra-impatient / horny.
Knowing my luck, if I tried it, we would be stopped by a traffic cop! [/QUOTE]When I land from a long haul flights my needs are the four 's's': shit, shower, shave and shag. Pretty much in that order.
Unless there is a fully-equipped bathroom on board then I'm not interested.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1151996]Sure why not? They'll be all warmed up, lubed, and ready for Round 2. Same chance you have as any other P4P woman in Thailand.
Of course, you could hire a taxi (1200 bht) , and two Bangkok bargirls to suck and fuck you all the way to Pattaya (maybe 1500 each ST). Then take the slow route through Siracha and send them back in the car (1200 baht). As much fun for 1/3 the price, but not as private or roomy. Maybe bring a big beach towel.
Total: 5400 baht + tollway fees. Experience: Priceless. . [/QUOTE]Good alternative, but what about the driver? I wouldn't mind him watching, but I'd be scared about him not focusing on the road ahead!
[QUOTE=Pro Fesseur;1152070]I pay only 1000 baht from Bangkok to Pattaya, tollway included (a little bit less for my return trip from Pattaya to Bangkok). Anyway, the trip does not last long (about 90 minutes usually, and less than 2 hours in most cases) , so, it's better IMHO to be patient and to wait until you are in Pattaya to choose your playmates among thousands of girls: with the money that you are going to save on this trip, you may have several awesome threesomes, foursomes (etc.) in Pattaya![/QUOTE]True, but in this case, regardless of whether you can afford it, I guess it isn't about "service / price", it's about the experience of doing something very out of the ordinary even for ordinary mongers.
[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1152131]When I land from a long haul flights my needs are the four 's's': shit, shower, shave and shag. Pretty much in that order.
Unless there is a fully-equipped bathroom on board then I'm not interested. [/QUOTE]Good point, pretty much my feeling, but if they don't mind your general state and appearance (and in this case they are obviously prepared) , then I guess I could skip the usual steps.
One negative about the set-up, in my opinion, is that it's limited to one person, meaning you cannot enjoy the experience with a buddy.
Ryo
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1151996]Sure why not? They'll be all warmed up, lubed, and ready for Round 2. Same chance you have as any other P4P woman in Thailand.
Of course, you could hire a taxi (1200 bht) , and two Bangkok bargirls to suck and fuck you all the way to Pattaya (maybe 1500 each ST). Then take the slow route through Siracha and send them back in the car (1200 baht). As much fun for 1/3 the price, but not as private or roomy. Maybe bring a big beach towel.
Total: 5400 baht + tollway fees. Experience: Priceless. . [/QUOTE]And a mandatory tip FROM the driver for the show you give him! .
[QUOTE=Charlie Horse;1151948]Call me skeptical, but couldn't the same 2 girls have just finished a 2 hour ride from Pattaya to the airport giving a goodbye adventure to a lucky guy. And only minutes later have the driver spin around to the arrivals level to meet another guy starting his vacation?[/QUOTE]Skeptical or well fucked.
Isn't that what they do anyway in DD? Continuous fucking each shift! Well worn and hot pussies!
[QUOTE=Pro Fesseur;1152070]I pay only 1000 baht from Bangkok to Pattaya, tollway included[/QUOTE]Great, then you have 90mins to look out of the window of the taxi and enjoy the beautiful landscape.
Others have different preferences and pay a bit more, so what?
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Bumholes1; 1152251]Skeptical or well fucked.
Isn't that what they do anyway in DD? Continuous fucking each shift! Well worn and hot pussies! [/QUOTE]In practice they spend most of their time sitting outside the shopn putting on make-up or eating. Perhaps 2-3 customers per day.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1152315]In practice they spend most of their time sitting outside the shopn putting on make-up or eating. Perhaps 2-3 customers per day.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's right. My DD impressions is the same as yours and they had the mandatory Thai guy sat on a motor bike inspecting his face in the mirror and picking his nose. Very normal for Pattaya. Five stars or no stars.
[QUOTE=Ekspat;1152298]Great, then you have 90mins to look out of the window of the taxi and enjoy the beautiful landscape.[/QUOTE]I usually take a nap during this short trip, then, I am even hornier and ready to have more fun when I am arrived in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Ekspat;1152298]Others have different preferences and pay a bit more, so what?[/QUOTE]A bit more? You do what you want with your money, guys, but it's NOT just "a bit more" (and IMHO, not worth the huge difference, but to each his own, hey!).
[QUOTE=Michi;1149939]Big C second floor, if I remember correctly. But does it belong here?[/QUOTE]Thanks michi.
Sorry to be a pain but is that big see north or south Pattaya?
FK
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1150096]Carrefour, next door to the coffee shop 94 and the book store, opposite the food court!
LBM[/QUOTE]Thanks littlebigman.
I think I remember seeing that one.
Ill give it a try if not then try out michi's suggestions.
BTW apologies to both you and michi for the late reply was off to samui for a few days now back in Pattaya LOL.
FK
[QUOTE=Koolshot737; 1150194]Friends,
Do the bars in WS still have a policy of not allowing non-whites? I have seen this reduced in the last 2 years. Can anyone update the latest scene?
Regrads,
KOOL[/QUOTE]Never seen this in kinda discrimination in ws but recently I witnessed this first hand in a pathetic bar called dennis the menace bar on soi 7 and I've decided to stay the hell away from this shit hole.
Can't believe they can live with this in todays world.
FK
[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1150787]Just to be absolutely clear, you went to DD and asked for one girl for outcall for 2 hours, and they charged you 3500. 4500 Bht?
Seems odd, given that the prices are clearly displayed on their web page.
I've had a few minor issues with DD but blatant overcharging has never been one.[/QUOTE]90 minutes to be specific although all three times they had reasons to leave earlier.
Yes I would call that blatant overcharging.
The bottom line is devils den promises dreams and dreams don't come true LOL.
They charge more than most of the gogos and bars in ws and for these high prices I can certainly get a girl for ONE NIGHT from ws.
FK
[QUOTE=Richmond72; 1150795]How long did you take the girls for?
From what I've seen, DD has one of the least covert operations in Pattaya. Pics and videos of the girls are readily available on their site. Price list right there. And they have a live webcam. The only way they could be more open would be to stream the girls actually servicing the customers.[/QUOTE]90 mins.
Yes thats the reason I used their services or should I say because I liked some of their girls LOL.
But then when I get there that girl is not available so they suggest another one and that ones more expensive.
Anyway I took all that shit and don't mind paying as long as the promised services are delivered but then there is no service as promised because the girl is jep jep jep or she just doesn't do this that and that.
So the owners need to look into this problem and educate their girls LOL and see which one of the staffs is making money by overcharging.
FK
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter;1151327]Dam, when I was at DD's in Sept. The owner told me about this service but was charging 12, 000 Baght. This included having the 2 girls for the night not just for the transportation to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Maybe one more example of what devils den say they would charge and what they charge indeed.
This makes me feel more that this overcharging comes from the owners
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter; 1148826]Thanks andMr. E and Greenbud on the subject. I think I remember the trucks trecking around around announcing kickboxing but not sure. Mr. E, I will be in Pattaya may 17. Would love to meet up with a vet for a night or 2. First rounds on me of course.
Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]Hope it isn't too late!
The matches are help by Fairtex at the Fairtex Boxing Stadium, off Therrapsin Road. Soi 2, There are matches going on now in May but I'm not sure of the exact dates. I have seen something like Wednesday nights and something about a big match Sunday May 9th?
You might want to google Fairtex in Pattaya, they have a sport club just off the Dolphin circle on Pattaya Nua next to the Moon River club? You should be able to obtain the correct information from them.
Good luck, LBM
I have RTFF and see that you can catch a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya for around 1, 000 baht, but does anyone have suggestions exactly where to catch taxis in Bangkok near Suk and in Pattaya that will make the drive for you.
[QUOTE=Rebel79;1153335]I have RTFF and see that you can catch a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya for around 1, 000 baht, but does anyone have suggestions exactly where to catch taxis in Bangkok near Suk and in Pattaya that will make the drive for you.[/QUOTE]In BKK maybe you want to ask to your hotel. If you have one.
[QUOTE=Rebel79;1153335]I have RTFF and see that you can catch a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya for around 1, 000 baht, but does anyone have suggestions exactly where to catch taxis in Bangkok near Suk and in Pattaya that will make the drive for you.[/QUOTE]It is very easy to get a taxi from Pattaya to Bangkok. All the small shacks on the street offering tourist services will offer transportation from Pattaya to the airport or Bangkok.
The price for a meter taxi will be 800 plus 2 tolls (60 or 70 total) to the airport; it was approx 900 something baht to Bangkok (half an hour extra to Sukhumvit). The camry option will be a little more expensive; the camry will be slightly larger.
I would recommend the tourist agency shack in front of the LEK hotel. They haven't screwed me yet; also because that one has high volume, they will sometimes give you a camry when you order a meter taxi. Other ones might say that you have to pay for a camry because all the meter taxis are gone. Probably should arrange for the taxi the previous night.
Getting a taxi from Bangkok Sukhumvit to Pattaya is slightly more trickier. The hotel can get you a taxi, but they probably will add a hefty premium.
I would just negotiate with any meter taxi on the street. Just say,"Pattaya; 1000 baht; you pay the toll" (Wondering how hard it is to get that price; you can get the taxi for 1000 from the airport, but Sukhumvit is about 30 or 40 minutes further away). There will be at least 2 tolls to Pattaya (60 or 70 total) ; from Sukhumvit, you can take 2 extra tolls to save a few minutes, but I would just go south on Sukhumvit to avoid those 2 extra tolls (taxi will definitely do this if you negotiate that he pays for the toll).
Note that the meter taxis has LNG; they won't have much trunk space due to the LNG tank.
[QUOTE=Rebel79;1153335]I have RTFF and see that you can catch a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya for around 1, 000 baht, but does anyone have suggestions exactly where to catch taxis in Bangkok near Suk and in Pattaya that will make the drive for you.[/QUOTE]
Several taxi services are mentioned here: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2182-Travel-Announcements-Only-(No-questions-or-comments-please)&p=1017985&viewfull=1#post1017985[/url]
You should try to contact them as I am pretty sure that most of them can pick you up at your hotel if you wish.
I had good luck finding a taxi by going upstairs, outside at the departures drop-off. Think I paid $1000 back in early December.
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1153392]I had good luck finding a taxi by going upstairs, outside at the departures drop-off. Think I paid $1000 back in early December.[/QUOTE]One thousand US dollars, they had a "little" premium. :)
[QUOTE=Rebel79;1153335]I have RTFF and see that you can catch a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya for around 1, 000 baht, but does anyone have suggestions exactly where to catch taxis in Bangkok near Suk and in Pattaya that will make the drive for you.[/QUOTE]Just stop and ask any taxi on the street like sukh road. On some sukh sois some drivers have been standing and asking me "where are you going sir, airport? Pattaya?" so you can just negotiate a price (pattaya tow ry, ning pan ok? or something like that in thai).
But next time I might just get a shared minivan for 150 thb. There are booths that are selling tickets to these daily minivans to pattaya. Prices outside are often quoted in thai, I think that transportation is directed at locals, thats why you dont pay a tourist price, only 150 baht to pattaya and same price back. Sometimes if lucky you end up sitting next to a young thai girl in the back seat :)
[email]mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com[/email]
I have booked with Mr T on several occasions from the Airport to Pattaya and Pattaya to BKK.
Never had any issues. Always timely and no up-sell.
I always pay 1000bt from the airport to Patts inc tolls. Can't recall how much the Patts to BKK trip was, but doubt it was much more than 1000. 1200bt.
Have also used [url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
Again, no complaints and the fair was pretty much the same as Mr. T
I always prefer to have arranged my airport pick-up before hand. After a 14hr flight, I don't want to haggle with touts and drivers. Just look for your name and relax.
[QUOTE=Chachi420; 1153512][email]mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com[/email]
I have booked with Mr T on several occasions from the Airport to Pattaya and Pattaya to BKK.
Never had any issues. Always timely and no up-sell.
I always pay 1000bt from the airport to Patts inc tolls. Can't recall how much the Patts to BKK trip was, but doubt it was much more than 1000. 1200bt.
Have also used.
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
Again, no complaints and the fair was pretty much the same as Mr. T
I always prefer to have arranged my airport pick-up before hand. After a 14hr flight, I don't want to haggle with touts and drivers. Just look for your name and relax. [/QUOTE]You can go to bus station by sky train from Ekkamai, and then find a air conditioned bus to Pattaya. If you are on a tight budget that can save you 700 800 THB.
[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1153399]One thousand US dollars, they had a "little" premium. :)[/QUOTE]Baht, indeed. Prolly a grand, US, on girls, though. Money well spent!
[QUOTE=Rebel79;1153335]I have RTFF and see that you can catch a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya for around 1, 000 baht, but does anyone have suggestions exactly where to catch taxis in Bangkok near Suk and in Pattaya that will make the drive for you.[/QUOTE]The last few times I was in Bangkok I grabbed a taxi from the street either moving or parked. Two charged 1000, one charged 1500. I took that 1500 baht taxi because I was in a hurry. I didn't negotiate with any of them.
[QUOTE=SahinAga;1153524]You can go to bus station by sky train from Ekkamai, and then find a air conditioned bus to Pattaya. If you are on a tight budget that can save you 700 800 THB.[/QUOTE]No flaming but if one is in need of saving two times 700 baht because if tight budget I would question the whole trip.
Something is commuting more than one time every week and something is a return trip to Pattaya on a vacation trip.
Or saving 1000baht a night in a hotel.
I don't mean to waste the money, but I don't think 1200x2 taxi money is a killer fir individual transportation!
Anyhow just my opinion and each one his own
Are the barfines of the beer bars and gogo bars in Pattaya and the prices for the WG's as follows nowadays?
Barfines:
Beer bars: 300 Baht.
Gogo bars: 600 Baht.
Girls:
Beer bars:
ST: 500. 1000 Baht.
LT: 1000. 1500 Baht.
Gogo bars:
ST: 1500 Baht.
LT: 2500 Baht
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1153674]No flaming but if one is in need of saving two times 700 baht because if tight budget I would question the whole trip.
Something is commuting more than one time every week and something is a return trip to Pattaya on a vacation trip.
Or saving 1000baht a night in a hotel.
I don't mean to waste the money, but I don't think 1200x2 taxi money is a killer fir individual transportation!
Anyhow just my opinion and each one his own[/QUOTE]There are 2 types of expenditure in Pattaya: girls and everything else. For the latter it is a time / convenience vs cost equation. So I always get a taxi to Pattaya because it is fast and comfortable. For a hotel I aim to spend no more than 1500 Bht per night, but for a good room. Any more is just a waste of money for me, any less then the room may be too squalid. Food I buy on the street or in cheap restaurants because that's what I like. I look for the happy hour deals or the cheap drink offers because that works for me.
With the girls I have a different set of rules, but happy to spend whatever is required for the experience. So one night with a DD girl, followed by one night with a FL, followed by Soi 6 girl, etc. I don't normally pay top dollar for the gogo girls because in my limited experience it hasn't been worth it.
[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1153698]Are the barfines of the beer bars and gogo bars in Pattaya and the prices for the WG's as follows nowadays?
Barfines:
Beer bars: 300 Baht.
Gogo bars: 600 Baht.
Girls:
Beer bars:
ST: 500. 1000 Baht.
LT: 1000. 1500 Baht.
Gogo bars:
ST: 1500 Baht.
LT: 2500 Baht[/QUOTE]The above sounds right to me.
Some of the Walking Street and more 'first time tourist' oriented go-go's (Iron, Airport, etc) are asking 1000 for barfine. Some of the girls there are asking 2000/3000 ST / LT and higher, especially during high season.
Lately the Mamasans have been trying to negotiate the price for the girls and it is 'pay upfront'. I guess some punters are doing that, because the practice hasn't stopped over the last 4-5 months.
Show the girls a good time and bargain well and 1000/2000 is achievable, from even the best sorts.
It is nice to see Mouse 1s report as it reflects my sentiments exactly, I always stay at the LK renaissance but their prices have gone over 1500 so I am now looking round for a good alternative.
May the force be with you.
[QUOTE=Striker34; 1153742]The above sounds right to me.
Some of the Walking Street and more 'first time tourist' oriented go-go's (Iron, Airport, etc) are asking 1000 for barfine. Some of the girls there are asking 2000/3000 ST / LT and higher, especially during high season.
Lately the Mamasans have been trying to negotiate the price for the girls and it is 'pay upfront'. I guess some punters are doing that, because the practice hasn't stopped over the last 4-5 months.
Show the girls a good time and bargain well and 1000/2000 is achievable, from even the best sorts. [/QUOTE]Yeah good point. The "first time tourist" go-go bars. Iron, Airport, Baccara, Alcatraz. Do not bother with these. Barfines are always inflated to around 1000 baht and the girls are asking for "silly money" as one retired expat once told me. Girls at these bars are mostly there to dance and drink. Many do not want to be barfined at all. If you want to have sex with a go-go girl, there is plenty of talent in Heaven Above, Living Dolls, Baby Dolls, etc. I have negotiated to 1000 for ST and 1500 LT in the past at these.
And never the girl's fee upfront. This isn't Germany or Amsterdam. In Bangkok some mamasans will present the punter with a laminated sign with ST and LT prices on it. Duly ignored.
Check my former posts about the "inside garden resort", has excellent bungalows, pool, super friendly staff in convenient location and zero fellow punter presence LOL. 800 a night.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1153855]Check my former posts about the "inside garden resort", has excellent bungalows, pool, super friendly staff in convenient location and zero fellow punter presence LOL. 800 a night.[/QUOTE]Looks decent enough although it's 1500 a night, not 800.
[url]http://www.thaiways.org/insidegardenresort/rooms.html[/url]
Just a few unusual observations from a few hours in Pattaya GoGos last night.
While I was at Windmill, all the lights came on and the place filled with Police. The girls said there was problems with liquor licensing and also girls who were under 20. They said that only girls over 20 were allowed to 'entertain' – dunno on that. Anyhow off goes the owner and his hot blonde Thai wife for a long discussion upstairs with the police. Police still there when I left at about 1130.
Passed by Beach Club and was talking to a couple of girls when the place goes into an uproar with the arrival of a big party of Japanese men and women. The girls were quickly to desert me and then a extraordinary deluge of ping pong and other plastic balls started – not the little buckets that you usually see but many large trash cans full of balls. The girls said he spent 50K baht the night before on balls and drinks etc. The girls were using the front of my shirt and anywhere they could to stuff balls that they had caught – many were showing cuts and bruises on their knees (maybe from something other than fighting for ping pong balls!) and one of the girls I was talking to got balls worth 2000 baht. That gives you and idea of what it was like. Can't compete with that!
[QUOTE=Rebel79;1153335]I have RTFF and see that you can catch a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya for around 1, 000 baht, but does anyone have suggestions exactly where to catch taxis in Bangkok near Suk and in Pattaya that will make the drive for you.[/QUOTE]As mentioned Mr. T is reliable but a bit tad slow in responding by email some times. I have used him for the past few years.
Sukhumvit / Soi 19 to Pattaya (View Talay 6, 2nd road) is 1000 and same back to BKK.
To and from Don Muang is 1200bt.
[email]mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com[/email]
Guys please have discretion when out hunting. I was in the disco last night with my girlfriend (non-pro) and a guy came right up to her while we were together and asked her to go with him. She told him that she was not doing business and he left. She apologized profusely to me, but I told her that it was not her fault. I understand we are in Pattaya but have some fucking respect.
Also the disco has traditionally stayed open until at least 5am but closed at 3:45 last night. My girl says it's due to political reasons and the powers that be flexing their muscle before elections.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1153985]Guys please have discretion when out hunting. I was in the disco last night with my girlfriend (non-pro) and a guy came right up to her while we were together and asked her to go with him. She told him that she was not doing business and he left. She apologized profusely to me, but I told her that it was not her fault. I understand we are in Pattaya but have some fucking respect.
Also the disco has traditionally stayed open until at least 5am but closed at 3:45 last night. My girl says it's due to political reasons and the powers that be flexing their muscle before elections. [/QUOTE]Rather bold of him. Perhaps he made eye contact and took that to mean otherwise.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1153985]Guys please have discretion when out hunting. I was in the disco last night with my girlfriend (non-pro) and a guy came right up to her while we were together and asked her to go with him. She told him that she was not doing business and he left. She apologized profusely to me, but I told her that it was not her fault. I understand we are in Pattaya but have some fucking respect.
Also the disco has traditionally stayed open until at least 5am but closed at 3:45 last night. My girl says it's due to political reasons and the powers that be flexing their muscle before elections. [/QUOTE]Was the disco on walking street? If so, then she is fair game for anyone. Sorry, but this is Pattaya. If you don't like the cutthroat tactics than best to take your "non-pro" to a regular thai disco.
[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1153698]Gogo bars:
ST: 1500 Baht.
LT: 2500 Baht[/QUOTE]It doesn't hurt to try to negotiate a 1000 ST with a gogo girl. I've had many at this price.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1153985]Guys please have discretion when out hunting. I was in the disco last night with my girlfriend (non-pro) and a guy came right up to her while we were together and asked her to go with him. She told him that she was not doing business and he left. She apologized profusely to me, but I told her that it was not her fault. I understand we are in Pattaya but have some fucking respect..[/QUOTE]This is unfortunately the result of guys thinking that Thailand is an open air and 100% brothel.
Very true the country offers (p4p and freebie) sex opportunities more than other, but indeed how can some think it is all granted by the flip of the fingers?
[QUOTE=Mangofan; 1153861]Looks decent enough although it's 1500 a night, not 800.
[url]http://www.thaiways.org/insidegardenresort/rooms.html[/url][/QUOTE]Forget the published price. Walk-in, smile and mention 800 "as a friend told you". The most useful employee is a small-framed guy (the only guy) at the reception.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1153991]Was the disco on walking street? If so, then she is fair game for anyone. Sorry, but this is Pattaya. If you don't like the cutthroat tactics than best to take your "non-pro" to a regular thai disco.[/QUOTE]I agree, any disco on walking street is fair game because ALL the girls there are for take even if sometime, for whatever reason they may skip duty.
The "regular" discos are Hollywood, Noir near Big C. They look great from outside LOL.
[QUOTE=Bubba999;1153964]One of the girls I was talking to got balls worth 2000 baht. That gives you and idea of what it was like. Can't compete with that![/QUOTE]I am actually glad to to loose to anyone about being an high-roller retard playing ping-pong balls at go-go bars.
When we have a "contest" about other kind of balls and stuff, I'm game LOL
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1153985]Guys please have discretion when out hunting. I was in the disco last night with my girlfriend (non-pro) and a guy came right up to her while we were together and asked her to go with him. She told him that she was not doing business and he left. She apologized profusely to me, but I told her that it was not her fault. I understand we are in Pattaya but have some fucking respect.[/QUOTE]To be honest, I have done the same (or similar). Seen a stunning girl with another guy, and asked her for her phone number. I did sort of ask the guy's permission first. He agreed bui looked pretty pissed off when she gave it.
I met up with her the next night, but that's another story.
[QUOTE=Mouse1; 1154002]To be honest, I have done the same (or similar). Seen a stunning girl with another guy, and asked her for her phone number. I did sort of ask the guy's permission first. He agreed bui looked pretty pissed off when she gave it.
I met up with her the next night, but that's another story.[/QUOTE]Go on Mouse tell the other story. Might be more interesting.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1153985]Guys please have discretion when out hunting. I was in the disco last night with my girlfriend (non-pro) and a guy came right up to her while we were together and asked her to go with him. She told him that she was not doing business and he left. She apologized profusely to me, but I told her that it was not her fault. I understand we are in Pattaya but have some fucking respect.
Also the disco has traditionally stayed open until at least 5am but closed at 3:45 last night. My girl says it's due to political reasons and the powers that be flexing their muscle before elections. [/QUOTE]Respect? In Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Bubba999; 1153964]Just a few unusual observations from a few hours in Pattaya GoGos last night.
While I was at Windmill, all the lights came on and the place filled with Police. The girls said there was problems with liquor licensing and also girls who were under 20. They said that only girls over 20 were allowed to 'entertain' – dunno on that. Anyhow off goes the owner and his hot blonde Thai wife for a long discussion upstairs with the police. Police still there when I left at about 1130.
Passed by Beach Club and was talking to a couple of girls when the place goes into an uproar with the arrival of a big party of Japanese men and women. The girls were quickly to desert me and then a extraordinary deluge of ping pong and other plastic balls started – not the little buckets that you usually see but many large trash cans full of balls. The girls said he spent 50K baht the night before on balls and drinks etc. The girls were using the front of my shirt and anywhere they could to stuff balls that they had caught – many were showing cuts and bruises on their knees (maybe from something other than fighting for ping pong balls!) and one of the girls I was talking to got balls worth 2000 baht. That gives you and idea of what it was like. Can't compete with that! [/QUOTE]Budda, and many others, know you place when the big spenders are in town.
[QUOTE=LesterA; 1149344]Six of us headed into Pattaya for the New Year Celebrations and we had an absolute blast. Most of us knew what to expect and we all bought spray guns. For three days we patrolled the streets drenching people and being drenched. It's really strange that people walk around Pattaya at this time of year and don't know what to expect. Many times we saw guys asking not to be sprayed and this only encouraged the locals to drench them even more. So funny. This old German, he must have been about 70, stood on the second road around the soi 8 area even had his gun. A young Russian couple said no no and he just said ya ya and drenched them. Brilliant. The local police got a bit heavy. At one point they took a couple of our spray guns. Once we understood this the girls helped us and took the guns from us whenever the police were nearby. The 19th was a fantastic day. The whole city rocked and we rocked with them. Many of the girls were drunk and three of our group all managed short times and paid nothing. That's what they said anyway. Maybe they will write something.
As for the Penthouse. What a fantastic place. We were let down with our original accommodation and were lucky to get in. We didn't get exactly the types of rooms we wanted and we had to keep changing. We did have a balcony overlooking the street and we made the most of this to drench people as they walked by. Some old guy even complained to reception and we had a warning. We then had another call to tell us to carry on. They were very understanding and as long as we kept water out of the hotel they didn't mind. We have already booked our rooms for next year. We all loved the set up and strong sexual vibes. It's not a gay hotel. It just caters for everyone and most of the people we met were heterosexual and had girls with them. The location is great and not quite in Boys Town. Sure we saw a few ladyboys but so what. This is Pattaya and they are everywhere. [/QUOTE]Posted this in the wrong place before.
LesterA – This happened on the second road, right hand side, near to Big C. About four in the afternoon I needed a lie down. I slept for a couple of hours, showered and then went out again. I had no idea where you guys were as none of you answered your phones. So I just walked. People were still chucking water around, drinking and dancing. At this bar the girls were all dancing and blocking the street. One just grabbed hold of me and wouldn't let me go. She seemed very taken with my aftershave and pulled me into her bar. I had a beer and she sat on my lap. She was very drunk and kept saying come upstairs now now and free free. She aroused me and I was tempted. As she bounced on my lap one of her friends passed her a key and she pulled me up. We went running upstairs and into the room. She almost ripped of my clothes, pushed me on the bed and then fucked me. I just laid there and she moved around trying to satisfy herself from all kinds of angles.
The Penthouse pissed me off. They made me pay for my TV Remote Control that they said I broke. I also paid for a lot of stuff I couldn't remember having. I had signed for it though which I couldn't remember doing. Not surprising really as I was drunk most of the time. Checking out I was thinking that I would never stay there again. On the way to the airport I found out what happened with the remote. Most of the time we were drunk and all walking around each other's rooms. During one session the guys started throwing my remote around the room and they dropped it. We have all booked for next year so I will be staying there again.
[QUOTE=Pussycheck; 1153698]Are the barfines of the beer bars and gogo bars in Pattaya and the prices for the WG's as follows nowadays?
Barfines:
Beer bars: 300 Baht.
Gogo bars: 600 Baht.
Girls:
Beer bars:
ST: 500. 1000 Baht.
LT: 1000. 1500 Baht.
Gogo bars:
ST: 1500 Baht.
LT: 2500 Baht[/QUOTE]Great Repoert, Simple and focused.
What about the Beach Road and free lancers?
[QUOTE=Bubba999;1153964]The girls said there was problems with liquor licensing and also girls who were under 20. They said that only girls over 20 were allowed to 'entertain' – dunno on that...[/QUOTE]If I am not mistaken, the drinking age for Thai nationals was raised from 18 to 20 about 5 years ago. That's almost certainly why the local girls must be over 20 of age to be allowed to work in places where alcoholic beverages are on offer.
[QUOTE=Clokey;1154077]Respect? In Pattaya?[/QUOTE]LOL.
Yo. Word is Bond. I was there last week. And let me tell you, in Lucifer, the only thing they Respected was the Game!
Hell. You. Know how many Honeys that were trying to get at me, when the girl I was chilling with turned her head or went to the bathroom. LOL. Trust me, Everybody's Hunting in the Playground!
Besides she gave you the Ultimate Respect by staying with you.
Step your Game up Son!
Did nowhere find the answer if the Hilton is guestfriendly or not. Had a few to their rooms and love it. Also I know that I will be provided with a room upgrade at least to a Suite being a HH Diamond. Exec. Floor is closed at this moment, but they announced alternative benefits. But it makes no sense, if I cannot share a suite with a wonderful LBFM.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1153985]Guys please have discretion when out hunting . . . I understand we are in Pattaya but have some fucking respect.[/QUOTE]Word life kid. I totally feel you on this one E. Because it also happened to me a few times. In Pattaya and Phuket (Patong Beach). No joke.
But like Biggie Smalls. Pattaya is "Notorious". Notoriously known for being the biggest adult entertainment meat market on the planet. Trust me B. Dudes will step to your girl unless you are arm and arm, or hugged up. Especially if you are rolling a dime piece / stunner. I did not like it. And I definitely would not step to another dude's girl. But I fully understand that everybody is over there trying to break off the hottest chick they see.
When a guy steps to me girl, I smile because it only reinforces my good tastes regarding the chick I picked. And when a guy approaches her. It allows me to test her on the spot to see if she is really down for me. If not, I just move on to next one I like. Some people will argue and fight (sometimes to the death) over a woman. But in Thailand this is never necessary. There are already so many other women to choose from over there. Waiting, willing, and ready to fuck your brains out and chill with you. Seemingly endless supply.
[QUOTE=Clokey;1154081]The Penthouse pissed me off. They made me pay for my TV Remote Control that they said I broke.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Clokey;1154081]On the way to the airport I found out what happened with the remote. Most of the time we were drunk and all walking around each other's rooms. During one session the guys started throwing my remote around the room and they dropped it.[/QUOTE]So you or your friends broke the remote while you were drunk by throwing it around the room and the hotel management made you pay for it? How utterly unreasonable. I would never stay at such a place.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1154375]So you or your friends broke the remote while you were drunk by throwing it around the room and the hotel management made you pay for it? How utterly unreasonable. I would never stay at such a place.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I said Mousey. I'm a firm believer in never paying for any damages. They did miss the bed side lamp that smashed. Can't wait to get back there for Song Kran next year.
Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with " respect " whether you are in Pattaya or anywhere else in the world. I think it has to do with " having a brain ", like Dreamer said the place is fill with girls everywhere and you put yourself in the position of approaching another person women P4P or not just because you got to have the toy from the cracker jack box?
Unless, you are 6'4' and a professional boxer still fighing you are putting yourself in danger by not using your brain.
Where does respect come into the picture when you are in a pine box!
LBM
I remember a couple of years ago I was sat in tom beer bar on soi diana. There was a Aussie guy there talking to one of the bar girls and getting on quite well, he fixed his date for the night. After about 20 mins another guy came to the bar who I think was also an Aussie and intervened with the couple, he started a little bit of an argument then began bargaining. The thing was he had been with the girl the night before and had come back for her again, he was a bit pissed she was going to go with another punter, in the end he offered the guy 3000 baht to walk away without her.
Not sure how much the first guy had agreed to pay the girl but he refused the 3000 offered and bar fined her and the interloper walked away looking pissed off. The only person left with any respect in this situation was the bar girl and me who was pissing my sides with laughter.
I may have posted this before but it still makes me laugh and maybe a little sad depending on my mood.
May the force be with you.
[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker; 1154560]. In the end he offered the guy 3000 baht to walk away without her.
[/QUOTE]It never happened to me, but hand me 3000 baht and I will walk away from any BG I just found an hour or 2 ago.
BK
[QUOTE=Clokey;1154394]Exactly what I said Mousey. I'm a firm believer in never paying for any damages. They did miss the bed side lamp that smashed. Can't wait to get back there for Song Kran next year.[/QUOTE]Must remember not to invite you round to my house.
New to this board and soon (hope) new to the Thai (in country) experience. Have enjoyed numerous Thai (acquaintances) in the states. And have enjoyed thoroughly.
First things. Am hoping to travel to Pattaya. But seem to have trouble getting it to come up as a destination on major travel sites. Where to you fly into or what is the code?
2nd. Is it better to book a place ahead of time or just look around and settle on something when you get there.
3rd. How safe is it to bring overnight girls to your place and fall asleep?
4th. Any other tips you can share are most appreciated.
I was walking back on the beach walk at about 3:30 a. M. And a farang man and bar girl were having sex in the water. Or at least I think they were. I thought those huge floodlights that are there now would deter people from doing that but I guess not.
[QUOTE=JodyBond; 1154603]New to this board and soon (hope) new to the Thai (in country) experience. Have enjoyed numerous Thai (acquaintances) in the states. And have enjoyed thoroughly.
First things. Am hoping to travel to Pattaya. But seem to have trouble getting it to come up as a destination on major travel sites. Where to you fly into or what is the code?
2nd. Is it better to book a place ahead of time or just look around and settle on something when you get there.
3rd. How safe is it to bring overnight girls to your place and fall asleep?
4th. Any other tips you can share are most appreciated. [/QUOTE]Jody,
Check with James, he's a world traveler but use the BKK code for Thailand then take a cab to Pattaya. No tips other than read the board and bring money.
[QUOTE=Mango Pancakes;1154607]I was walking back on the beach walk at about 3:30 a. M. And a farang man and bar girl were having sex in the water. Or at least I think they were. I thought those huge floodlights that are there now would deter people from doing that but I guess not.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Pattaya!
[QUOTE=Mango Pancakes;1154607]I was walking back on the beach walk at about 3:30 a. M. And a farang man and bar girl were having sex in the water. Or at least I think they were. I thought those huge floodlights that are there now would deter people from doing that but I guess not.[/QUOTE]How do you know she was a bar girl? This is no new news. It happens a bit here in Pattaya.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/14236/russian-couple-caught-having-sex-on-pattaya-beach/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/drunk-russians-caught-having-sex-on-beach-2009[/url]
[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1154664]Jody,
Check with James, he's a world traveler but use the BKK code for Thailand then take a cab to Pattaya. No tips other than read the board and bring money.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Where or what exactly is BKK?
[QUOTE=DD Phil; 1149091]So took my first trip to Thailand last week. (I usually travel in Latin and South America and parts of Europe). I stayed in Pattaya for a week.
I went during their New Year celebrations. I figured it would be over by April 15 or 16. So I arrived on the 16th. But the festivities ended up going on until April 19. So walking down the streets in Pattaya during this time means getting soaked with water. Its their tradition to have water guns and squirt / soak passers by. Everyone was doing it everywhere, including the tourists. Its all good fun, but I wished it only lasted one day!
Pattaya itself is basically a party city with beach. Its somewhat crazy. There literally hundreds of bar-hotels (and some with restaurants). All these bars have girls that are available. In addition there's all the Go-Go bars in the Walking district area and the area around Areca hotel. There's probably more go-go bars, but I had enough fun in these two areas and not enough time to explore other parts.
There's also lots of guys from northern Europe here on extended holiday stays of 1-3 months or retired. Came across several of them in the bars during the day and had good converstaions with them.
Beers prices are fairly cheap at $2 (60-70 Baht) at most bars and in the Go-Go bars around $3-4. Drinks for ladies seems to be set at around $4 everywhere.
Food was also cheap. Most decent meals were costing me around $5-7 including a non-alcoholic drink. Breakfast was included in my hotel, but otherwise costs around $4.
I did some research on this forum first and decided to stay at Penthouse and booked for 2 nights. I think it was a mistake and I am so glad I only booked 2 nights. They have a policy of you paying up front and in the event you change your mind and want to leave earlier. Well tough luck.
The things I didn't like about the Penthouse was that the room is "over sexed". Its more like a room you rent by the hour. The bed and covers are also somewhat run down and dated. In general the furnishings aren't that great in the room. Given that your paying $60-70 in Pattaya. The shower in the bathroom isn't separted, so its all one big room and so when you take a shower, water gets everywhere. I asked if all the room showers were like this, and yes there are unless you get the onese with Jacuzzi (which cost more) in them. The room I had alos had very poor lighting and hardly any natural lighting.
The biggest con about the Penthouse was go-go bar assoicated with the hotel, Kittens, which is right next door. Well 2/3 of the dancers there are lady boys! And the penthouse is located right in BoysTown. Also on the tv there are 3 porn channels, but two of them are gay! Not sure why these facts weren't posted about this hotel in the forum. I wouldn't recommend staying here. For a hotel that's supposed to cater to us straight guys and advertises here on ISG. Why such a gay theme to the hotel! I have nothing against gays, but I don't want it in my face either.
The one thing I did like about the Penthouse was having all those wall sized mirrors in the room. Pretty much on 3 sides of the room and a wall sized one in the bathroom. So when having sex with the girl in the room, looking at her in the mirrors was kind of a pleasant turn on for me. Still I would not return to the Penthouse. Unless they fixed up the bathroom, got new bedding in there, and ensured only girl dancers in the go-go bar.
I ended up moving out of Penthouse and staying at a nearby bar-hotel-restaurant. They have about 10 rooms. I took one of the large rooms for 800 Baht ($27) a night. It was a good sized room, tiled floors, decent basic furnishings. There seem to be literally dozens of places like this in Pattaya. Probably worth the effort to take one afternoon off and go visit a bunch of hotels and find one that you like. I looked at few hotels (some 4 stars as well) before deciding on this one. For my last 2 nights I decided to upgrade and stayed at Bayview Residence. All the places I looked at have no girl (joiner) fees and only asked for her I'd to be left at the front desk. Only one hotel charged a fee if you brought more than one girl. So basically if you find yourself paying a joiner fee in Pattaya your needlessy wasting your money.
I ended up basically partying every night until around 4-5am. Getting up around 1pm or so. Then doing the same again! Was paying around 1000-1500 Baht for a girl for around 3 hours. Only once I took a girl for all night. Cost 2000. Bar fines were anywhere from 300-600 Baht. Never had problems with the girls back in my room. Always got BBBJ's, good massages, good sex. Only once was there an issue. Took one of the bartending girls from the Walking district area back to my room around 3am. Still had to pay the bar fine. 300. Got to my room and she was pretty much giving me attitude from the start. After 30mins of this I said if she didn't change I wasnt going to pay her. Well she was pissed off at this, but got dressed and left with no money.
In term of places to go. Its everywhere. The Go-GO bars in Walking district are prettly much all the same. They literally have dozens of girls dancing, all of them are pretty much good looking, mostly all 7-8's. Bottle beers are 120 Baht. Same price for drinks for girls. Draft beer is 60. The clubs stay open until 3am. The Walking dristict was always packed full of toursits. Didn't think it would be as crowded as it was for this time of year. The area around Areca hotel also has lots of go-go clubs and in general a good scene going on. If I go back to Pattaya, I will very likely end up staying at this hotel. Soi 7 and 8 also has tons of bars with girls. Never made it out to Soi 6. But I heard you can get BJ's there on SOi 6 while having your drink.
In terms of massage parlours. Looks like there are 2 places that have the monopoly. All the taxi guys and guys hustling you on the street mention only these two places. If you ask if there are others, these guys claim that there are not. These two places are called Honey and Rasputin. I went to both to get a look. Both are very classy setup. The girls are one side, behind a glass partition, sitting down. You can see them, they can see you, but you can't talk to them. The girls are all good looking. The girls are divided into different colours. The colour dictates the price. It either 1800 or 2500 for 1. 5 hours. The rooms are very nice, each has a large bathtub shower, large nice bed, large screen tv. All kinds fo soaps, and moistuizers. Very clean, there's staff up here as well for towels, drinks etc. I took advantage once. A girl from Honey for 2500. Got a great body on body massage in the bathtub. She only did CBJ. But it was great one at that. She was telling me each girl is different and she didn't do BBBJ. But then again I didn't offer her more money and she was doing a good job with the CBJ I didn't care. The sex was good too. Overall I had a very postive experience. But then again for 2500 here in Pattaya you should. These two places are open from noon to midnight.
I ended up finding another massage place. Called something like Teen Dream Girls massage. Its in the same area as Kiss, Office, Submarine, etc go-go bars. Just down 2 more blocks. Not as fancy a setup as Honey. The rates are for 1, 1.5 or 2 hours. Around 500-900 Baht. But that price only includes the room, massage and handjob. For anything else with the girl you have to negotiate with her. I took a girl once. Was giving a good message and handjob, but her clothes didn't come off. She was asking for 1000 more just for a BBBJ, no sex. For sex wanted another 500. WTF. So anyways paid another 1000 for the BBBJ. For these prices, the Honey club is way better. I'm sure there's a lot more (cheaper) massage parlours out there.
There's also lots of normal Thai massage parlours everywhere. These are great. For about 200 Baht you get a 1 hour lower leg and foot massage or back and shoulder massage. There's literally hundreds of these places all over the place. In fact you can be relaxing on the beach in one of those chairs, and there's these massage girls walking about giving foot massages.
Finally, one piece of informational story. It was late one night, around 2:30am. I ended up at the bars right before entering Walking district. I walked around and spotted this one cute girl sitting by herself talking with the staff. We made eye contact. So approached her. Talked with her for a bit. Bought her a drink. She's 20 years old, very bubbly. Deciced to take her back to my room. Bar fine was 300. And she asked for 1000 for 2-3 hours. I agreed. Had a great time with her. Did everything, starting with a shower together. We got to talking. Turns out she works in the day at the Honey massage parlour. Says she makes around 50K Baht a month and takes care of all her family including parents. She doesn't have a kid. Sometimes she has sex up to 5-6 times a day at Honey. In contrast the go-go dancers on Walking street make around 8K-10K Baht a month. But thats just on tips, etc no sex, if they go for sex thats extra for them.
My total cost for a 7 night trip (excluding airfare) was $1700. Includes hotel, food, drinks, bar fines, girls, taxi's (including taxi's to and from airport) , and even some shorts, tshirts I picked up. Had about 12 girls over these 7 days.[/QUOTE]Very, very informative. From the girls to the lodging and services info. Excellent.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1154676]How do you know she was a bar girl? This is no new news. It happens a bit here in Pattaya.
[url]http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/14236/russian-couple-caught-having-sex-on-pattaya-beach/[/url]
[url]http://www.pattayamail.com/localnews/drunk-russians-caught-having-sex-on-beach-2009[/url][/QUOTE]I am perfectly aware that it was happening quite frequently a few years ago but the beach is much better lit than it was then. Perhaps it wasn't a bar girl. Maybe a farang with his 20 year old Buriram girlfriend who just happened to be in Pattaya at 3 o'clock in the morning and decided to have sex with 100 people in close proximity. It was a bar girl.
Just completed my 33rd trip in 16 years to LOS and have a few observations-hopefully helpful to low season mongerers. Best go-gos:What's Up (although barfines are outrageous as are the ST and LT fees) Baccara (An entertainment complex in itself) Airport (Oh so sexy) Champagne (Soi LK Metro but very busy) The talent is hit and miss everywhere else. Be forewarned that Diamond is employing non-barfineable 'coyotes' and a few are very hot. Alcatraz is the only one of the 7 or so new bars over the winter that is really any good. Nice theme and atmosphere. BF'd Ben (No. 314 or 341 I can't remember) here on 2 nights. Adorable and a personality to match. She was 18 years old. I kept drawing girls who had had a kid and combined with condom use (mostly) I had some sensitivity issues. Oh well. I would estimate 80% of go-go dancers have had a kid and 100% of beer bar girls have. It just doesn't affect me only. This Ben girl from Alcatraz says customers are always feeling her lower abdomen to see if she has had a child or not. I still had fun but am hoping for a much better trip in the fall. Thai Women Rule The World
Last night I was in Candy Shop with Pipe Layer and I went up to a girl and used a modification of "their" classic line. Whereas the girl always comes up to us and says, "My friend like you." I always go up to them and say, "I like you." So she responded, "I like you too." We tried chatting a while over the loud ass music but it was a bust. She lied to me and said she worked in a salon off Walking Street but later changed to she worked at a bar and comes and goes when she wants. She said that she would have to get back to the bar soon to take care of some things. So I told her to call me when she finished all her dealings.
We then continued on to Lucifer. I saw a girl who I just had to have. She was tall and thick with a Chinese haircut. She was the friend of a chick that another wingman used to deal with. I have never begged a working girl so to come with me. But she just insisted on going to Mixx with her friends because it was her first day back in town. They wanted me to come with them but I kept trying to taunt her with the free drinks that I have in my room. She said she would only stay until 4am then would come see me. I walked them to their motorbikes still keeping hope alive. It was 3am then and at 7:49am I received two missed calls from her.
I walked back toward Lucifer to meet back up with Pipe Layer but as soon as I hit Walking Street I had a call from the girl who I met at Candy Shop. She said that she had just seen me walking past her bar with a girl. I told her that was not true. I was with 3 girls! So she guided me to the bar by telephone. Come to find out she is the mamasan in the bar. She insisted on buying me drinks and said we could not leave until I finished them even though I did not want them.
Somehow we glanced over the subject of money. She said if I stay with you how much you give me. I responded with my usual answer, "How much you want?" She said that I had to tell her because if she says 10,000 will I give her that. I acted like I didn't hear her and asked her to repeat. On the repetition she slipped and said, "If I say 1,000..." I quickly cut her off before she could correct herself, "Yes 1,000 is good." There was no more talk about money.
We finally left the bar. I stopped over near my place to get some chicken and she bought some fruit at the same time. We came back and she fed me the chicken and fruit and told me that I should be eating healthier instead of so much grease. Next we had an excellent session and another this afternoon when she woke up. A total GFE. She even washed the dirty dishes while I was in the shower. I slipped 1, 000 baht in her purse while she was in the shower.
I don't usually go for chicks this slim (her bra was 32A whereas I'm more of a 38D guy) but she was just beautiful to me. 37 years old with braces, no kids, and reminded me of a hairstylist that I met off TLL my first time in Pattaya. I don't usually repeat either but this one is well worth it.
[QUOTE=BKK Dreaming; 1154571]It never happened to me, but hand me 3000 baht and I will walk away from any BG I just found an hour or 2 ago.
BK[/QUOTE]Opportunity: Teach the girl, reneging on a deal is a big mistake.
In. Vn I was having a massage and as usual only HJ on offer there, and the girls were allocated to punters on a round robin basis. During my massage, Aussie bloke came in and very loud. Anyway my massage girl heard her #1 overpaying punter, and decided to open bid 4X the going rate 200K Vs 800'K for for a HJ! And not accept 150K which was the ticket price. So I tipped exactly 1$ and she was pissed, as was I.
Next night, same time same channel, I requested the same girl. Good massage, same stalemate about extras.
Lo and behold same guy came in whinged and heard, and suddenly same sour attitude. This time 50 cent tip and a complaint as being both stupid and insensitive and not focused on the job in hand, or not.
On third night I came 2 hours early, my friend reserved her (to her relief) but we swapped at the last minute. Lo and behold Aussie arrive 15 minutes later. Girl gave me a freebie if I left early, and learnt that tip means that. Deliver a service or get nothing. Do not take it as a given.
My my case, I was able to teach the spoiled brat that loose-loose was an option, ending her winning streak.
In Pattaya, I shop at beer bars. Never had 1000 LT knocked back, after explaining the rules, and instantly going cold on those that want more. Oddly enough, I think my 'desirability' rose, after a 200bt tip cause girl was not expecting it at all.
That's the lesson. Be cheap, stick to your limits / guns, and that paying more will in no way get you a better service. And if that don't work (in a. Jp place) move on to the next. I think I got respect, not 'you paid a lot. Sucker ' respect. So saying. 3000 by will buy me out. Lots of fish in Pattaya, you don't have to think hard.
[QUOTE=JodyBond;1154703]Thanks. Where or what exactly is BKK?[/QUOTE]
BKK = Bangkok. Why don't you use Google for such trivial questions?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1154765]I don't usually go for chicks this slim (her bra was 32A whereas I'm more of a 38D guy) but she was just beautiful to me. 37 years old with braces, no kids, and reminded me of a hairstylist that I met off TLL my first time in Pattaya. I don't usually repeat either but this one is well worth it.[/QUOTE]Good report and excellent work bruh. I don't like the slim types either but their always one or two exceptions every trip. Especially those ones who have some gap action going on or are slightly bow legged. Keep bangin'!
[QUOTE=Keeniu;1154773]Opportunity: Teach the girl, reneging on a deal is a big mistake...[/QUOTE]My native language is English, and this report is written ostensibly in English, but I don't understand what you are talking about.
Daddy07,
If you had stuck to learning Thai you might have understood it? He was basically saying don't overpay there is no assurance if you do that you will get better service? Stick to your rule of thumb!
LBM
[QUOTE=JodyBond;1154710]Very, very informative. From the girls to the lodging and services info. Excellent.[/QUOTE]Dude, you quoted three screens of info to add one tag line.
Do a little snipping. Cut out some of the info, we have read it already.
Slim
[QUOTE=JodyBond;1154703]Thanks. Where or what exactly is BKK?[/QUOTE]Weren't you asking for the (ariport) code for the best airport. And BKK stands for Bangkok.
Suggest you do a bit of googlemaps homework before RTFF on ISG.
Excellent and very informative report, Jody Bond
Excellent report, DD Phil
[QUOTE]Have also used.
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
Again, no complaints and the fair was pretty much the same as Mr. T. [/QUOTE]The boss at Pattaya Taxi is Mr. Virach Songklam. He answers e-mails promptly and dispatches a driver to your location. If you need to coordinate via cell phone, you can call him and he'll speak to the driver (who may not speak much English).
Pattaya Taxi charges 1,000 for the trip from Bangkok to Pattaya or vice versa. That includes tolls. I usually thrown the guy an extra hundred baht. During my most recent trip I drew a Camry for the drive to Pattaya. Very comfortable indeed. On the drive from Pattaya to the airport, I drew a smaller car. Whatever they call a Toyota Corolla. The trunk was too small for my (admittedly massive) suitcase. So the driver put in in the front seat next to him. The back seat was not as roomy as the Camry. But it was fine for one person.
On a related note, last fall I posed the definitive guide for navigating the BKK airport and catching a taxi downtown.
Bunky
[QUOTE=Bunky;1155206]Pattaya Taxi charges 1,000 for the trip from Bangkok to Pattaya or vice versa. That includes tolls.[/QUOTE]50% of the cabs in and around sukhumvit will do the same run for the same price. Just wave down a taxi and tell him your price. Easy enough.
Hi All. I'm making my first trip to south east Asia, planning to spend 1 week in Pattaya and 1 week in Phillipines (Manila and / or Cebu). I will be working remotely and need a reliable Internet connection. Is this realistic is these places? I'm thinking / hoping the higher-end hotels will have such things. Please advise if otherwise. If I can't work I have to take unpaid vacation which adds more cost to the trip.
2nd main question is this: Is there any issue with trading stocks on the US market from foreign countries. I make a few trades a week using Charles Schwab and Fidelity. I'd like to be able to place trades from these countries and be blocked. I know I can call on phone and place a trade with a representative for $25-33 per trade (vs. $8-10 normally). Anyone have experience with this?
Thanks for the reports. I'll submit mine upon return.
Haven't ever found a hotel even in the range of 900-1500 baht that doesn't have wifi. And have always found it relibale (iei not dropping in an out). Shouldn't be a problem.
Dunno on your stock market q. But us guys are always willing to hear a hot tip!
[QUOTE=Kyle Fox; 1155499]Hi All. I'm making my first trip to south east Asia, planning to spend 1 week in Pattaya and 1 week in Phillipines (Manila and / or Cebu). I will be working remotely and need a reliable Internet connection. Is this realistic is these places? I'm thinking / hoping the higher-end hotels will have such things. Please advise if otherwise. If I can't work I have to take unpaid vacation which adds more cost to the trip.
2nd main question is this: Is there any issue with trading stocks on the US market from foreign countries. I make a few trades a week using Charles Schwab and Fidelity. I'd like to be able to place trades from these countries and be blocked. I know I can call on phone and place a trade with a representative for $25-33 per trade (vs. $8-10 normally). Anyone have experience with this?
Thanks for the reports. I'll submit mine upon return. [/QUOTE]
1. I have found the internet in both countries readily available and reliable.
2. If you mean you risk to get blocked because of a foreign IP number, get a US VPN for that.
Fellow Forum Members, I just found out that I will need to be in Pattaya for a friend's bachelor party on 30 May 2011 to 2 Jun 2011. The problem is my flight from Malaysia will land in Bangkok International Airport around 6. 55pm. I wanted to book a seat on the BELL bus but their timetable indicated that the last bus leave Bangkok Int Airport for Pattaya at 6pm.
Is there an alternative bus service (similar to BELL where they deliver you to your hotel) that I can consider?
I hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks & Regards
[QUOTE=Mango Pancakes;1154607]I was walking back on the beach walk at about 3:30 a. M. And a farang man and bar girl were having sex in the water. Or at least I think they were. I thought those huge floodlights that are there now would deter people from doing that but I guess not.[/QUOTE]Nice, I choose Hotels that have a jacuzzi, expensive but greeeeat.
[QUOTE=Kyle Fox; 1155499]Hi All. I'm making my first trip to south east Asia, planning to spend 1 week in Pattaya and 1 week in Phillipines (Manila and / or Cebu). I will be working remotely and need a reliable Internet connection. Is this realistic is these places? I'm thinking / hoping the higher-end hotels will have such things. Please advise if otherwise. If I can't work I have to take unpaid vacation which adds more cost to the trip.
2nd main question is this: Is there any issue with trading stocks on the US market from foreign countries. I make a few trades a week using Charles Schwab and Fidelity. I'd like to be able to place trades from these countries and be blocked. I know I can call on phone and place a trade with a representative for $25-33 per trade (vs. $8-10 normally). Anyone have experience with this?
Thanks for the reports. I'll submit mine upon return. [/QUOTE]I'm not a expert on computers, I also have a Charles Schwab and Fidelity accounts and although I have access to secure WIFI? I never do any banking on WIFI, instead I take the time to go the Internet shop that I have been using for a number of years. I look for a clean place with updated software protection on their computers to check into my accounts and do transaction. Like C. S. I just log in with my S. S and PW here and view my do my transaction I have never been denied access to my account because I'm here in Thailand. Whenever I'm done I erase everything that I have done?
LBM
[QUOTE=Normad2020; 1155770]Fellow Forum Members, I just found out that I will need to be in Pattaya for a friend's bachelor party on 30 May 2011 to 2 Jun 2011. The problem is my flight from Malaysia will land in Bangkok International Airport around 6. 55pm. I wanted to book a seat on the BELL bus but their timetable indicated that the last bus leave Bangkok Int Airport for Pattaya at 6pm.
Is there an alternative bus service (similar to BELL where they deliver you to your hotel) that I can consider? [/QUOTE]There are no more buses after that hour. You will have to go upstairs and outside to get a taxi for 1000 baht + 60 baht tolls.
I went to visit a friend who works a legitimate job on Soi 6 yesterday. I told her that I was going to leave and get a massage. She recommended a place there on Soi 6. I went and had a great head and shoulders for 200 baht. What didn't sit well with me was that usually when I get head and shoulders it is done right in the main room with all the chairs. However, for this I was guided upstairs to the massage mattresses. The girl went through the routine of a full body massage although more gentle than a thai massage. To make a short story even shorter, after the massage I got FS for 500 baht. She tried to get 1000 out of me but that wasn't happening. When I showed her the 500 baht bill it was all systems go. I shall return if for nothing but the massage itself.
[QUOTE=Normad2020; 1155770]Fellow Forum Members, I just found out that I will need to be in Pattaya for a friend's bachelor party on 30 May 2011 to 2 Jun 2011. The problem is my flight from Malaysia will land in Bangkok International Airport around 6. 55pm. I wanted to book a seat on the BELL bus but their timetable indicated that the last bus leave Bangkok Int Airport for Pattaya at 6pm.
Is there an alternative bus service (similar to BELL where they deliver you to your hotel) that I can consider?
I hope to hear from you soon.
Thanks & Regards[/QUOTE]There is a government bus service whose last bus leaves at 9 PM (during last high season; is it still the same?).
It doesn't drop you off at your hotel, but it leaves you on the main road. There will be songthaews at those stops which will offer you to take you straight to your hotel. Cheaper option will be to hop on a public songthaew traveling in a loop.
[quote=kyle fox;1155499]hi all. i'm making my first trip to south east asia, planning to spend 1 week in pattaya and 1 week in phillipines (manila and / or cebu). i will be working remotely and need a reliable internet connection. is this realistic is these places? i'm thinking / hoping the higher-end hotels will have such things.[/quote]you will have no problem with internet connections. speed is usually around 200 something kbits.
reliability depends on the hotel. at some hotels, there are more internet drop-outs (where connection is lost for 10 to 20 seconds). it will be reliable enough for stock trading, but internet poker might have trouble.
[quote=kyle fox;1155499]is there any issue with trading stocks on the us market from foreign countries.[/quote]absolutely no problems.
[quote=littlebigman;1155807]i take the time to go the internet shop that i have been using for a number of years. i look for a clean place with updated software protection on their computers to check into my accounts and do transaction.[/quote]if i was a crook, i would also look for those type of places to put my trojan horse to capture your logins and passwords.
previous user might have gone to a dangerous site.
i don't trust those public internet cafes; they probably have pirated software which might not offer all the protection possible.
i know i'm being paranoid. that's why i bring my laptop to log into my financial sites.
Hey folks!
It's been some time since I last visited Pattaya now, but returning in about a month or so now. I'm curious about what ST / LT I should aim at when hunting in places like Insomnia and Lucifer.
Also, are there some sort of SOL (BKK) type of establishment in Pattaya? If so, what's the name of it / them and where are they located?
Thanks in advance!
[quote=bloodstock; 1155848]it's been some time since i last visited pattaya now, but returning in about a month or so now. i'm curious about what st / lt i should aim at when hunting in places like insomnia and lucifer.
also, are there some sort of sol (bkk) type of establishment in pattaya? if so, what's the name of it / them and where are they located? [/quote]disco lt still 1000 baht normally. don't really know if st exists. it's hard enough getting them away for lt as many times you get excuses of wanting to stay and party with friends or wanting to go to next disco with friends. after they get all dolled up i doubt if they want to go back to your place, take a shower, fuck, have to take another shower, and get all dolled up again for anything less than 1000 baht, which is what lt would be anyway.
bj bars here are:
1. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s - soi lk metro, off soi diana inn. 800 baht.
2. pump station - soi post office (soi 13/2 off beach road) 700 baht, and
3. bliss - sai 3 (3rd road & soi 18 in front of xzyte disco. 600 baht.
probably good to do a bj bar once for the novelty, but let's face it, you can get fs from a beach road girl for 500 (many cases 300 or 400) + 100 for short time room.
[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1155841]There is a government bus service whose last bus leaves at 9 PM (during last high season; is it still the same?).
It doesn't drop you off at your hotel, but it leaves you on the main road. There will be songthaews at those stops which will offer you to take you straight to your hotel. Cheaper option will be to hop on a public songthaew traveling in a loop.[/QUOTE]Warning: At night is it not clear where you are stopping, and the songthaews want min 300 bt, taxi's more.
Know where your hotel is, and where the. Gov bus stops. At 11pm a farang is going to be ripped off badly, especially if they see a suitcase.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1155892]2. Pump Station - Soi Post Office (Soi 13/2 off Beach Road) 700 baht,[/QUOTE]Don't dismiss the other tawdry bars, I regularly get BJ for 650 at Golden Girls in that soi.
Oh, and Lick Bar in soi 6, for 700 baht. If you're not shy.
[quote=mr enternational; 1155892]1. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. soi lk metro, off soi diana inn. 800 baht.
2. pump station. soi post office (soi 13/2 off beach road) 700 baht[/quote]isn't it the other way round? 700 at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s.
[quote=rocksoff;1155910]isn't it the other way round? 700 at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s.[/quote]could be. maybe i'm getting it mixed up with kangaroo in bkk patpong.
I just spent three months in Pattaya resently. I spent a lot of time at the local discoteques such as Lucifer. I must tell you that it really depends on what sort of person you are, how you look, and how good your game is. If you speak a little thai. That would help as well. Speaking for myself, I never spent anymore than one thousand baht for long time and five hundred baht for short time. I never took any short time out of Lucifers and Mixx, etc, only long time. If the girls like you they will go with you for the price that you offer. My suggestion is for you to look for the girls who are interested in you and stay away from the girls that you have to run after. A good six, seven, or eight, is better than a problem nine or ten. I have been going to Thailand since two thousand so I am not new to the game there and in other countries. It is pretty much the same. Hope I helped you with your question.
[QUOTE=Bloodstock; 1155848]Hey folks!
It's been some time since I last visited Pattaya now, but returning in about a month or so now. I'm curious about what ST / LT I should aim at when hunting in places like Insomnia and Lucifer.
Also, are there some sort of SOL (BKK) type of establishment in Pattaya? If so, what's the name of it / them and where are they located?
Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE]
When I was in Lucifers, Mix, and Insomnia back in February I had girls coming up to me asking to be with me for LT man it was hard getting rid of them because they wanted to spend the whole day with after spending the the night. After I dismissed them with 1000THB-1200THB they said "Khob-Kun" and bowed their head. LOL. As we know all our experiences will not be the same on trips because the way we look, act, how in shape we in. Etc.
[QUOTE=Bloodstock; 1155848]Hey folks!
It's been some time since I last visited Pattaya now, but returning in about a month or so now. I'm curious about what ST / LT I should aim at when hunting in places like Insomnia and Lucifer. [/QUOTE]
thanks to mr enternational, rocksoff, brasillee and pana nyc for the replies!
mr enternational: of course! especially when staying late partying at these places i can't see the girl heading back afterwards. so lt it is =) as for the places you mention. these are really just for bjs though right? i was thinking more in the line of possibilities for mer "open" sex (not just bjs) like sol offers. are there any such place in pattaya?
rocksoff: this lick bar, what makes it special? care to do a quick rundown for me? would be appreciated =)
brasillee: thanks for your input! i believe i should be at least rather well off in that department. while my thai skills are lousy (only knowing certain words and phrases) , i'm in my early 30s and don't believe i look too bad. i've been to insomnia and lucifer before, although last time i spent more or less my entire vacation with two (regular) chicks i met in bkk that also followed me to pattaya. quite neat actually. fucked them both, we all split money for food, etc. but i believe the disco-scene with places like climax / insomnia / bossy etc in bkk and insomnia / lucifer cater more to my needs than beer bars and go-go's.
pana nyc: haha, i hear you! i guess it would depend on the girl, why'know? sometimes you just want to get laid. while other times i would definately not mind hooking up with them the day afterwards. or longer for that matter. if you're having a good time, why not? =)
[quote=mr enternational; 1155892]disco lt still 1000 baht normally. don't really know if st exists. it's hard enough getting them away for lt as many times you get excuses of wanting to stay and party with friends or wanting to go to next disco with friends. after they get all dolled up i doubt if they want to go back to your place, take a shower, fuck, have to take another shower, and get all dolled up again for anything less than 1000 baht, which is what lt would be anyway.
bj bars here are:
1. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. soi lk metro, off soi diana inn. 800 baht.
2. pump station. soi post office (soi 13/2 off beach road) 700 baht, and
3. bliss. sai 3 (3rd road & soi 18 in front of xzyte disco. 600 baht.
probably good to do a bj bar once for the novelty, but let's face it, you can get fs from a beach road girl for 500 (many cases 300 or 400) + 100 for short time room. [/quote]
[QUOTE=Brasillee;1156099]I never took any short time out of Lucifers and Mixx, etc, only long time. If the girls like you they will go with you for the price that you offer. My suggestion is for you to look for the girls who are interested in you and stay away from the girls that you have to run after. A good six, seven, or eight, is better than a problem nine or ten.[/QUOTE]Most excellent advice bruh. This has been my experience also. In Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket (Patong Beach). If you find that you are spending a lot of time (more than 3 minutes) and effort (more than 1 drink) trying to get the girl to to like you or go with you. Its not a good sign. It's not necessary in Thailand because there are so many other women to move on to. The numbers of women are totally in your favor. If you come correct, and your game is halfway on point, you will have no problem easily pulling the women you like / want.
Also. Staying at a decent hotel helps. Almost every chick I hooked up with in Thailand always asked me what hotel I was staying at staying before we rolled out. Not necessarily expensive hotels. But name recognition. Well known multinational asian or western hotel brands.
Thanks Mr E. It looks like the taxi service is a better bet after the BELL alternative. So I will most probably get into Pattaya around 9pm and check into Pasadena Lodge. Hopefully can make X-Zone by 11pm as the guys will be meeting there for the first bachelor party. LOL.
Next day we planned to present a duo package from DD for the guy who will be getting married on 18 June 2011. Maybe after the "double sexperience" he might change his mind.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1155833]There are no more buses after that hour. You will have to go upstairs and outside to get a taxi for 1000 baht + 60 baht tolls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1155807]I'm not a expert on computers, I also have a Charles Schwab and Fidelity accounts and although I have access to secure WIFI? I never do any banking on WIFI, instead I take the time to go the Internet shop that I have been using for a number of years. I look for a clean place with updated software protection on their computers to check into my accounts and do transaction. Like C. S. I just log in with my S. S and PW here and view my do my transaction I have never been denied access to my account because I'm here in Thailand. Whenever I'm done I erase everything that I have done?
LBM[/QUOTE]There are lots of keylogger programs that will catch your key inputs even though the machine might be updated. Watch your account activity and change your password often.
[QUOTE=Bloodstock;1156274]As for the places you mention. These are really just for BJs though right?[/QUOTE]Last time I was at Golden Girl she had a hangover and preferred to lie back and get fucked. Same price,"only for you".
All the other places I believe FS means adding 300 or 400 to the price for a BJ.
[QUOTE=Bloodstock;1156274]This Lick Bar, what makes it special?[/QUOTE]It's just a Soi 6 bar that's good & naughty, downstairs and up, though you have to go upstairs for FS.
But the bar is as fun as the girl you're with, you may find the one who does it for you in any of the bars. There's a much more demure bar in that soi where there is a girl I always buy a drink for. She gets me hard and keeps me hard for as long as I want to sit there, but won't get me off downstairs.
[QUOTE=Zona12;1156516]There are lots of keylogger programs that will catch your key inputs even though the machine might be updated. Watch your account activity and change your password often.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip, The place I use I have never had a problem but that doesn't mean it can't happen? So as you noted I change the password each time after I go into the account since I was told the same advice given by you by another friend. Not only that now when I go I bring my own laptop.
LBM
[QUOTE=Normad2020;1156508]Thanks Mr E. It looks like the taxi service is a better bet after the BELL alternative.[/QUOTE]I took a taxi from the airport to Pattaya the first time I went (about 3 years ago) and the price was one thousand baht plus tolls, but the taxi was old and creaky, and the driver couldn't find my hotel. We drove around Pattaya for more than an hour trying to locate it, while I baked in the back seat of a tiny, dirty, smelly, hot taxi.
Since then I have been using VR Pattaya Taxi which actually charges the same amount, but doesn't charge extra for the tolls. The driver will be waiting for you at the ariport with your name on a sign, with a clean, modern, dependable car, and he knows your destination in advance. I've used them over a dozen times, and most of the drivers don't speak a word of English, but that's turned out to be an advantage. There's no small talk on the 90 minute ride to Pattaya. You can have a nice nap in the back seat without worrying that your old cab might break down somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Highly recommended.
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Siam Dreamer; 1156479]Most excellent advice bruh. This has been my experience also. In Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket (Patong Beach). If you find that you are spending a lot of time (more than 3 minutes) and effort (more than 1 drink) trying to get the girl to to like you or go with you. Its not a good sign. It's not necessary in Thailand because there are so many other women to move on to. The numbers of women are totally in your favor. If you come correct, and your game is halfway on point, you will have no problem easily pulling the women you like / want.
Also. Staying at a decent hotel helps. Almost every chick I hooked up with in Thailand always asked me what hotel I was staying at staying before we rolled out. Not necessarily expensive hotels. But name recognition. Well known multinational asian or western hotel brands. [/QUOTE]The other thing I experienced is that it's fun to secure a LT girl at the bar and join in the at their table. I've had a lot of fun with my newly acquired girl and her friends for even a hour or two after agreeing to a deal. Often even grabbing some grub on the street after leaving the bar with the group of girls. Sure it cuts into the play time but damn, it feels like travelling with your own entourage. Where else can you experience that? Strange how readily you are accepted just because you are the next meal ticket.
Thanks David 2 for the pointer. Will check their website and make the necessary arrangement.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=David 2; 1156742]I took a taxi from the airport to Pattaya the first time I went (about 3 years ago) and the price was one thousand baht plus tolls, but the taxi was old and creaky, and the driver couldn't find my hotel. We drove around Pattaya for more than an hour trying to locate it, while I baked in the back seat of a tiny, dirty, smelly, hot taxi.
Since then I have been using VR Pattaya Taxi which actually charges the same amount, but doesn't charge extra for the tolls. The driver will be waiting for you at the ariport with your name on a sign, with a clean, modern, dependable car, and he knows your destination in advance. I've used them over a dozen times, and most of the drivers don't speak a word of English, but that's turned out to be an advantage. There's no small talk on the 90 minute ride to Pattaya. You can have a nice nap in the back seat without worrying that your old cab might break down somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Highly recommended.
[url]http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Take the bus from BKK to Pattaya. Much cheaper, much safer, much more comfortable. The Pattaya station is at the edge of town and you can then get a baht bus to your hotel, right from the station. Plus, they start selling beer about five minutes before the bus leaves, and you can drink on the bus. Also, because you are sitting up higher with bigger windows, it's a lot easier to look at the scenery. Although, the scenery is quite unimpressive for the most part.
[QUOTE=Normad2020; 1156890]Thanks David 2 for the pointer. Will check their website and make the necessary arrangement.
Cheers. [/QUOTE]Just used their service 2 days ago very reliable.
Beaverhunter
There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.
Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/[/url]
Hi, I recommend visiting the chilli bar on soi 6.
Some cute girls there.
I had 2 very good short times with a girl that had a small toned body and lovely firm breasts. At first I thought they were a silicone pair, but they weren't. All natural.
So if you're into small girls with a good firm rack, check it out. She also gives very good BJ.
Paid 700 for her. 300 for the room, and also a 100 tip for doing a great job
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1157341]There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.
Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/[/url][/QUOTE]What is wrong with it?
Would you like to see an anouncement in the newspaper? Or receive massage on your phone? ("Today at wx:yz am / pm we will set a police checkpoint exactly here or there.")
Stopping for no reason? We are not the one to judge if there is a reason or not!
One reason could be to make clear that nobody at no place can be sure not to run in one of those checkpoints.
If you are sober (drugs or alc). You won't have any trouble. That's it. Quite easy.
Maa Paa
(from Germany. Used to this kind of controls. But now living in Thailand and still waiting for the police to act much more strictly!)
[QUOTE=Maa Paa; 1157355]What is wrong with it?
Would you like to see an anouncement in the newspaper? Or receive massage on your phone? ("Today at wx:yz am / pm we will set a police checkpoint exactly here or there.")
Stopping for no reason? We are not the one to judge if there is a reason or not!
One reason could be to make clear that nobody at no place can be sure not to run in one of those checkpoints.
If you are sober (drugs or alc). You won't have any trouble. That's it. Quite easy.
Maa Paa
(from Germany. Used to this kind of controls. But now living in Thailand and still waiting for the police to act much more strictly!) [/QUOTE]Just curious, Maa Paa; what part of Germany are you from? East Germany?
Did you get her name? .
[QUOTE=Butter69; 1157344]Hi, I recommend visiting the chilli bar on soi 6.
Some cute girls there.
I had 2 very good short times with a girl that had a small toned body and lovely firm breasts. At first I thought they were a silicone pair, but they weren't. All natural.
So if you're into small girls with a good firm rack, check it out. She also gives very good BJ.
Paid 700 for her. 300 for the room, and also a 100 tip for doing a great job[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1157341]There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.
Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/[/url][/QUOTE]It makes me cringe too. I don't like it. I am on vacation. I don't want to be on my guard looking over my shoulder at the cops. These tactics are used all the time in large American cities. A lot of good it does. So this is nothing new. Just accept the fact that Thailand is not a good place to smoke weed or partake in other drugs. Yeah, I know it is available especially on the southern islands and Pai, but thanks, no thanks. Also there are plenty of shills that offer drugs on Beach Road, Pattaya. Does anybody think they are selling quality product or the cops aren't aware of these guys? My advice is forgetaboutit and concentrate on the women.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1157369]Just curious, Maa Paa; what part of Germany are you from? East Germany?[/QUOTE]No, born is West Germany, ever been living there, no relatives in the "East".
Normally I don't like to judge people in general. But quite easy for me to say: "I don't like East German people's attitude."
About 22 years ago they seemed to be happy about the wall coming down. But a couple of years later they already began to complain about nearly everything. Impossible for me to like this.
Nearly the same behaviour as many farangs (I am one, too) here in Thailand: Always and only complaining complaining complaining.
Why don't those people move to Russia or another country in Asia? Is Germany after the reunion or Thailand really so bad?
No, it is not!
But what does your question have in common with my answer?
I didn't try to open your profile, sorry. Are you from the former East Germany?
Maa Paa
[QUOTE=Bloodstock;1157377]Did you get her name? .[/QUOTE]I can't remember her name anymore. Sorry.
I'm also not in Thailand anymore, so unfortunately can't go back for more fun with her. But she is easy to find in that bar. The girls will all be sitting outside hoping to get you in.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1157341]There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.
Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/[/url][/QUOTE]They have had one set up on my street off 3rd Road looks like every other day, but during daylight hours. Fortunately they have not pulled me over. A few nights ago I saw a group of about 12 teenagers spray painting a wall that is part of some relatively new townhomes. Two were doing the actual work and about 10 were looking on. They were taking their time and in no hurry as if they were at a picnic or barbeque. Where was the police then?
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1157341]There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.
Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/[/url][/QUOTE]Damn Daddy07,
Can't leave you alone for a minute! This wasn't the night I left you alone with that cat like smile while you lap dance that young cutie. Once again you shouldn't have given up on your Thai language.
Can't you read the papers they are doing crackdowns since so many bad things are being written about them doing nothing. So instead of really doing something they are compaigning this month since they got some fresh new money to waste. There are sign all over Pattaya with police officier picture trying to educate everyone to not drink and drive, wear your helmet etc.
Today, got stop on the darkside on Siam Country Road. On the railroad tracks. Pull me over spoke to me in Thai, I spoke back. Told him who I was and where from. He was impressed. Ask me for my license and he told me that it was only for car. I pulled out my International which was expired told him I can drive motorbike, fly airplane, drive bus and tractor traiter. Here is my insurance paper, registration, passport with visa stamp and personal card from the Attorney General of Thailand for the corruption against Expat. I basically kiss his ass every which way telling him that his English was very good and that I was impress. I think he wanted to be my friend and have a drink but I said I was a family man and didn't go out much.
I told you before. Take the Songthaw down to W. S. When white guys like you go home late at night. You standout like a fresh lightbulb calling out stop me please!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1157682]...I basically kiss his ass every which way telling him that his English was very good and that I was impress. I think he wanted to be my friend and have a drink but I said I was a family man and didn't go out much...[/QUOTE]After you kissed his ass every whch way, what did he have you do next? :D
[QUOTE]Fifty percent of the cabs in and around Sukhumvit will do the same run for the same price. Just wave down a taxi and tell him your price. Easy enough.[/QUOTE]True. But I was staying at the Millennium Grand Hotel, which does not permit taxis to line up at the entrance. I could have walked out the front door to Asok and hailed a taxi at the curb, of course. But it was nice to have one waiting. As I was settling my bill in the club lounge, I got a call saying my driver had arrived and he was standing by at the rear entrance. By the time I got downstairs the bellman had loaded the luggage and I was on my way. Very, very civilized.
Bunky
I will be in Pattaya about 10 days. Can someone say anything about how Pattaya is right now? Are there many tourists? Are there many working-girls as it was in December? And how about the on-going prices right now? Is it possible to negotiate the prices as it is low-season now?
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Kim Wheather; 1157774]I will be in Pattaya about 10 days. Can someone say anything about how Pattaya is right now? Are there many tourists? Are there many working-girls as it was in December? And how about the on-going prices right now? Is it possible to negotiate the prices as it is low-season now?
Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]I've been in Pattaya during any time of the year. The difference, if any, is barely noticeable. Don't think too much and enjoy.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1157697]After you kissed his ass every whch way, what did he have you do next? :D[/QUOTE]The answer is right there? See what I'm saying about getting old!
LBM
Yesterday I was not allowed inside Farenheit as I am Indian. Could anybody help me with the contacts of the Manager or Mamasan.
I have not faced such a situation in Baccara, Cavern, Living Dolls etc. I know some of the Managers and owners of these clubs personally such as Mac of Baccara, Peter of Super Girl (Soi Diamond) , Ler of Silver Star etc. Even in next door Alcatraz, I did not have any problem.
I will appreciate a quick response as I have only one more night today. If any one wishes to join me, you are welcome.
Regards.
KOOL
[QUOTE=Koolshot737; 1158037]Yesterday I was not allowed inside Farenheit as I am Indian. Could anybody help me with the contacts of the Manager or Mamasan.
I have not faced such a situation in Baccara, Cavern, Living Dolls etc. I know some of the Managers and owners of these clubs personally such as Mac of Baccara, Peter of Super Girl (Soi Diamond) , Ler of Silver Star etc. Even in next door Alcatraz, I did not have any problem.
I will appreciate a quick response as I have only one more night today. If any one wishes to join me, you are welcome.
Regards.
KOOL[/QUOTE]KS, call it a write-off and move on. You will get nothing but more aggravation by talking to the owners. Would you get relieved by calling them names and the fucking racists they are? Save your energy and rage for something more important.
Pattaya / Thailan / The World has a lot of injustice, just find a woman you like, fuck the shit out of her brain, move to the next, and enjoy.
[QUOTE=New Old Guy; 1158039]KS, call it a write-off and move on. You will get nothing but more aggravation by talking to the owners. Would you get relieved by calling them names and the fucking racists they are? Save your energy and rage for something more important.
Pattaya / Thailan / The World has a lot of injustice, just find a woman you like, fuck the shit out of her brain, move to the next, and enjoy. [/QUOTE]Well said, New Old Guy.
Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys!
[QUOTE=Deori;1159369]Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys![/QUOTE]There is plenty to do in Pats. You can go to the beach, watch the shows in gogos, go to a Muay Thai fight, windsurf, rent a scooter or bicycle, go to Koh Larn, go to the elephant farm, eat world class cuisine. Some of the beer bars are run by Australians and you can hang out all day drinking with them. Many girls will be happy to be your guides and take you around to these sites. Sadly it is not advised to rent a jet ski.
[QUOTE=Deori;1159369]Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys![/QUOTE]To Derori,
I been to San jose a few time and I go to Pattaya 2 time a yr, mongering is much better in Pattaya but there are more thing to do in San Jose you can go to the casino to play poker or take a eco tour, it is very beautiful place you just need to get out of the city go to some of the national park and beach in CR.
Fast Eddie 48
[url]http://www.pattayapark.com/waterpark.html[/url]
[Quote=Deori]Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys![/Quote]But, IMO, better to bring a "date", so to speak, when you go, just be prepared to buy her a swimsuit, first!
Only "caveat". DON'T let your date catch you "ogling" at the Russian girls and women who look SO FINE in their skimpy thong bikinis!
I plan on doing this: [url]http://www.treetopasia.com/[/url] On my next trip to Pattaya now in June =)
[QUOTE=Deori;1159369]Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jessee 009;1158093]Well said, New Old Guy.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't give up so easily. Finally got access to the club through a manager friend of another club. The club has definitely some good girls. Bar fine 600 THB. ST 1500 THB with room upstairs for 400 THB. The LT is 3000 THB.
Regards,
KOOL
Spent 4 fantastic nights in Pattaya. Went to almost all gogos and discos in WS. The atmosphere is electrifying.
SHOWS : Angel Witch has their normal shows from 10 pm to 1 am. The Super Girl gogos in Soi Diamond have the Jaccuzi shows. Windmill club in Soi Diamond have the banana show. Customers can get up close & personal with pussy fingering and DATY.
RECOMMENDED CLUBS : Apart from above, Baccara, Peppermint, Happy Gogo, Beach Club, Cavern, Living Dolls 1, Airport, Farenheit, Silver Star A-Gogo. The Devils Den is also highly recommended.
Avoid Iron Club (next to Airport) like a plague. Drinks are expensive. Bar fine 800 THB which is more than other bars and most important the girls tend to cheat. I bar fined a girl from there and got cheated. She was demanding to go home without doing anything once she reached the hotel.
PRICES : In the Gogos ST 1500 to 2000 THB and LT 3000 THB. In Walking Street 1000 Baht ST and 2000 Baht LT. Girls at the beach side 500 Baht ST. Spotted a few stunners and took one of them for ST.
DRINKS PRICES : Most gogos offer draft ranging from 50 to 90 THB. Bottled beer is around 100 to 120 Baht. Spirits of 50 CL are probably the same. Lady drink is 120 to 150 Baht depending on the gogo.
OPTIMISING YOUR TIME : Start the night around 7 pm with light dinner. Start visiting the famous clubs and make note of your preferred girl's number in each gogo. Be aware that most stunners are picked up by 9 pm. Visit the show gogos from 10 pm to 1 am. By 2 am pick up your most suitable choice for ST or LT. Head to any one of the discos such as Mix, Insomnia, Lucifer, Tonys etc. If you have taken gogo girl for ST, you have good variety in the discos for LT@2000 Baht LT after enjoying with her.
Enjoy your stay in Pattaya.
Regards
KOOL
[QUOTE=Koolshot737; 1159603]Well, I don't give up so easily. Finally got access to the club through a manager friend of another club. The club has definitely some good girls. Bar fine 600 THB. ST 1500 THB with room upstairs for 400 THB. The LT is 3000 THB.
Regards,
KOOL[/QUOTE]That's interesting and I'm glad you found your way in.
There are a few cuties at that go-go club, but sad to say, the prices at the Pattaya go-go's are now at Bangkok levels.
Bar fine, ST room, and service charges add up to 2500 baht for short time and only one pop. A guy could do better than that at Annie's in Bangkok, and even better yet at most Bangkok oilies where multiple pops are standard service.
Personally, I don't partake not because I don't want to but It makes no sense and it's not being a cheap charlie or anything.
They want a 600 barfine, then short-time charge whether it is 1500 or 2000 and because they have available rooms upstairs they want another 400 baht or whatever. Doesn't make f-king sense to me since you haven't even left the place so why charge the barfine.
If they did this at Soi 6, the place would be closed down in a week. Can you imagine if you were on Soi 6, and they charge to go upstair. 300 for the barfine. 700 ST, they told you another 300 for the room upstairs?
At 2500/3000 baht just for short-time, you would get more bang for the buck if you took her for L. T. 600BF / 3000LT and if she bails on you then drop it back to 1500 Baht.
LBM
Press reporting 7 or so Ugandan ladies picked up by BIB on Walking Street. Last year saw a black woman drinking at a bar facing WS. Sat down near bye and she took off. Anyone know what's up with them?
Arrived the afternoon of Tuesday the 17 just to learn that day happened to be a Budda Holiday. Wonderful I thought for my first day no alcahol and limited p4p action with all gogo's and about 90% of soi 6 shutdown for the day. Ended up getting afternoon attention on one of the few Soi 6 bars that was open and a late nite message at Honey. All spots visited keep reading.
Taxi to and from Pattaya to BKK.
I used Pattaya-taxi service to get to Pattaya. 1000 Baht plus 100Baht tip.
Mr T Service to go back to the airport. 900 Baht plus 100 Baht tip.
Both services were very good, on time as well as accomadating. I highly reccommend both.
Stayed at The Baywalk Residence. Go see my review in the Pattaya Hotel section if interested.
Soi 6 only trekked down there twice went to Siagon Girl and 1 other place closer to Beach Road. Do not remember the name. Both place very nice service and accomadating 300 Baht room 700 Baht girl + 300 if your into the 3rd hole.
Messages only went to Honey on a wing and a prayer at 2am my first night because of the holiday. 1800 Baht for 90 minutes. Girl was pissed off that I choose her because it was almost closing time and she wanted to leave. Too bad my thoughts were and I told her that if she did the right thing maybe I can get her out of there ealier. Spent only 60 minutes there CBJ pushed for BBBJ but that wasn't happening, with nice soapy message. At the end she wanted a tip and I said no because I was shorted 30 minutes and BBBJ wasn't available. Like I said at the beginning IF you did the right thing.
Beer Bars visited. Armaggadon, Cherry Bar, Bar 69, UToo, Bamboo, Golf Club. All girls priced at 500 Baht ST and 1000 Baht LT with a 300Baht BF. All fun places especially Bamboo. Well the Golf Club is more of a Resturant than a beer bar, but in my opinion a good place cause they do have a bar to hangout in. Plus they had on the TV live and Replay Yankee Games as well as the Hockey Playoffs. It is also next to Devils Den so you can watch the girls hangout and pick there noses while chanting and playing on their IPads.
The Disco's were all happening, the usual spots Insomia, Mixx and Lucifers. Girls apently and asking 1000 Baht LT and 500 ST.
Gogo visited. Sapphire, Alcattraz, Peppermint, Happy, Babydolls, Champagne, Baccara, Shark, Whats Up.
Did a double pleasure at Sapphire upstairs for 2500 Baht all inclusive (BF, Girls, Room) for 90 minutes. I liked this place and wished I could have spent some more time in here. Also honorable mention for Alcatraz Agogo. Alot of hotties in there. I did spent most of my tiime with my favorite gogo dancer from Peppermint so my time at other places was limited. All places 600 Baht BF. 1000 ST and depending on your negotiating tactics you can get anywhere from 1000 Baht to 2000 Baht LT.
Beach Road. I didn't partake so prices I do not know, but there were some hotties out there day and night.
Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter;1160135]Did a double pleasure at Sapphire upstairs for 2500 Baht all inclusive (BF, Girls, Room) for 90 minutes. I liked this place and wished I could have spent some more time in here.[/QUOTE]1,100 baht cheaper and the same 90 minutes of time as Devil's Den. Would you say that Sapphire is a viable alternative?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1160159]1,100 baht cheaper and the same 90 minutes of time as Devil's Den. Would you say that Sapphire is a viable alternative?[/QUOTE]To properly answer this I would have to say yes for me. But for others I do not know. While sitting next door with newly found friends I was watching DD girls hangingout without makeup picking their noses and found this unattractive. I didn't go to DD'd this trip but did my first trip in Sept. Had Gik and Bang. Bang was great but Gik was a starfish. At DD's as you know there is no negotiating at their price for 90 minutes unlimited pops. I'm sure at Sapphire this wouldn't be the case.
While upstairs in Sapphire, I poped twice in 90 minnutes. The girls were attractive and done-up since they were working. I do have a VIP membership with Sapphire and the Mammasan's I knew from another gogo back in Sept and I negotiated what I would pay. Did the VIP Membership help me? Maybe. I'm sure 2500 Baht can easily be higher or lower depending on one's neg. Tactics. I can only comment about what I paid.
Be well, Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=Deori;1159369]Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys![/QUOTE]The elephant trekking at the park just outside of Pattaya (not an expensive taxi ride away) is good. They take you through a little jungle for about an hour on the elephant. The acquarium is above average, but a little farther away from the city than the Elephant Village. Ko Larn island is also fun. There is a big ferry that is very inexpensive that goes from Pattaya to / from Koh Larn. Several beaches on the island, including one (Monkey Beach) where there are "wild" monkeys to be fed. They are so accustomed to being fed that they are tame. There is pretty good shooting range on Koh Larn. The water around the beaches is very clean.
I found Bangkok a better launching point for the more touristy (but also more expensive) day trips.
[QUOTE=Beaverhunter; 1160173]To properly answer this I would have to say yes for me. But for others I do not know. While sitting next door with newly found friends I was watching DD girls hangingout without makeup picking their noses and found this unattractive. I didn't go to DD'd this trip but did my first trip in Sept. Had Gik and Bang. Bang was great but Gik was a starfish. At DD's as you know there is no negotiating at their price for 90 minutes unlimited pops. I'm sure at Sapphire this wouldn't be the case.
While upstairs in Sapphire, I poped twice in 90 minnutes. The girls were attractive and done-up since they were working. I do have a VIP membership with Sapphire and the Mammasan's I knew from another gogo back in Sept and I negotiated what I would pay. Did the VIP Membership help me? Maybe. I'm sure 2500 Baht can easily be higher or lower depending on one's neg. Tactics. I can only comment about what I paid.
Be well, Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]Sorry but I did buy both ladies 2 lady drinks before talking about going upstairs. Just trying to be honest.
Benefitted greatly from advice on the form.
No great revelations but here's what I have to offer:
The hotel:
I stayed at Pattaya Bay Resort based on forum recommendations. No problems. Pleasant, spacious, clean if slightly dated room. Good, cheap resaurant and all for just 1000 / night. It's a good walk into town but hotel has shuttle. Quiet for sleeping. No mini bar but big refrigerator you can stack with drinks. Staff was nice and always respectful to the ladies. When the lady picked up her I'd, they always called to ensure everything was fine.
The town:
I've spent a good amount of time in other spots around the world, such as Rio de Janeiro. I thought Pattaya stacked up pretty well, especially on pricing for just about everything. You can eat awfully well for $10 / person. Totally accessible to the BKK airport. You can pay 400 from downtown BKK to the airport and it's only about 900 from Pattaya to the same airport, although a far greater distance. Air conditioned buses are also a fine option.
The action:
I won't restate too much from recent posts, since I believe the information on the last 10 pages of this forum is quite accurate. I'll just qualify a few recent statements. One monger felt that most of the go-go girls had already given birth. I believe that's a reflection of an individual go-go bar and its policies. In some of the higher-end ones, very few, if any, had given birth. However, a perfect, flat tummy is something that has has a market value and you have to pay for in Pattaya. Maybe an extra 500 or so. Just part of the market. Unlike another poster, I do not believe that prices are on a par with BKK if you compare similar quality levels. Of course, I visited in the low (hot) season and many girls were absolutely desperate for business.
What struck me about Pattaya (and what I hadn't expected) was the high quality of street hookers along the beach road. Most places I've been to, you assume the street hookers are hard-edged drug addicts. That just didn't seem to be the case here. I met (and used) some really nice and rather attractive ladies. Sure, there are lots of lady boys and women of every variety. Overweight, old, weird whatever. But many mongers wouldn't be disappointed just concentrating on this niche in the market. Almost all seem to say 500 ST and 1, 000 LT. You can negotiate them down but I didn't have the heart to.
It seems there are 2 types of experiences that many mongers go for in Pattaya. Some want the GFE. The bars work really well for this. Many of these girls are looking for a BFE (even sugar daddy or husband) in a foreign guy. You will generally not get a 9-10 in these hunting grounds but I've seen some 7-8s, mid-20s to early 30s, already 1 child, who are delighted to spend the night with you for 1, 000 + 300 BF + drinks. These girls are not stunners but they are often pretty and super-loving in the sack.
The other type of experience is the mongers who want to lay a stunner just for the fun of it. Best hunting grounds are the go-gos or perhaps DD. You'll pay 2, 000-4, 000 baht for the total experience (including drinks) , which is not bad compared with the $4, 200 Elliot Spritzer paid in Sex Prison USA. These beautiful girls will not be be as affectionate in the sack. You might have a memorable time but something less than a GFE. In this context, I understand the negative comments some posters have directed toward DD but feel it does fill a market niche. If you just want the girl to come to your hotel, have your fun and pay your 2, 000, it's not the worst option in the world. You lose the ability to chat with the girl over some drinks and size her up, enabling you to eliminate the ones with bad attitudes or where you feel the vibes aren't quite right. But $67 in-and-out for a hot woman can only be seen as a "rip-off" in the context of Pattaya's amazing offerings.
Those seem to be the 2 main experiences. Then there are some hybrids. One night I felt like having a 9-10 stunner. Don't know why. So of course I was heading to the Walking Street to check out a go-go. On the way there, however, I noticed a street hooker right on the Walking Street who was remarkably hot. 20 years old and a very solid 9. Perfect, smooth skin, great figure. One child but not see-section and flat tummy. She charges 1000 ST and 3000 LT. I took ST and didn't regret it one bit. 1000 less than DD and I was even able to size her up in person. Later on in the sack, she said she charges triple for LT because she works the street from 11pm-4am and usually hopes to do ST 3 times. She said the lowest she goes for ST is 1000, which I tend to believe. She was that hot. She noted that she offers 1500 ST and 4500 LT for Indians. (I know it's racism, don't condone it and am just reporting.) As expected, her love-making skills were just so-so and I don't have any illusions that she had an orgasm. That seems to be the case at that level in Thailand.
Anyway, I can't speak highly enough about Pattaya, well worth a visit whatever your tastes and price range.
Well the Golf Club is more of a Resturant than a beer bar, but in my opinion a good place cause they do have a bar to hangout in. Plus they had on the TV live and Replay Yankee Games as well as the Hockey Playoffs. It is also next to Devils Den so you can watch the girls hangout and pick there noses while chanting and playing on their IPads.
Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]Beav. Went to Golf Club in mornings for NFL games, do they have takeout later in the day?
[QUOTE=The Guy; 1160280]Benefitted greatly from advice on the form.
No great revelations but here's what I have to offer:
The hotel:
I stayed at Pattaya Bay Resort based on forum recommendations. No problems. Pleasant, spacious, clean if slightly dated room. Good, cheap resaurant and all for just 1000 / night. It's a good walk into town but hotel has shuttle. Quiet for sleeping. No mini bar but big refrigerator you can stack with drinks. Staff was nice and always respectful to the ladies. When the lady picked up her I'd, they always called to ensure everything was fine.
The town:
I've spent a good amount of time in other spots around the world, such as Rio de Janeiro. I thought Pattaya stacked up pretty well, especially on pricing for just about everything. You can eat awfully well for $10 / person. Totally accessible to the BKK airport. You can pay 400 from downtown BKK to the airport and it's only about 900 from Pattaya to the same airport, although a far greater distance. Air conditioned buses are also a fine option.
The action:
I won't restate too much from recent posts, since I believe the information on the last 10 pages of this forum is quite accurate. I'll just qualify a few recent statements. One monger felt that most of the go-go girls had already given birth. I believe that's a reflection of an individual go-go bar and its policies. In some of the higher-end ones, very few, if any, had given birth. However, a perfect, flat tummy is something that has has a market value and you have to pay for in Pattaya. Maybe an extra 500 or so. Just part of the market. Unlike another poster, I do not believe that prices are on a par with BKK if you compare similar quality levels. Of course, I visited in the low (hot) season and many girls were absolutely desperate for business.
What struck me about Pattaya (and what I hadn't expected) was the high quality of street hookers along the beach road. Most places I've been to, you assume the street hookers are hard-edged drug addicts. That just didn't seem to be the case here. I met (and used) some really nice and rather attractive ladies. Sure, there are lots of lady boys and women of every variety. Overweight, old, weird whatever. But many mongers wouldn't be disappointed just concentrating on this niche in the market. Almost all seem to say 500 ST and 1, 000 LT. You can negotiate them down but I didn't have the heart to.
It seems there are 2 types of experiences that many mongers go for in Pattaya. Some want the GFE. The bars work really well for this. Many of these girls are looking for a BFE (even sugar daddy or husband) in a foreign guy. You will generally not get a 9-10 in these hunting grounds but I've seen some 7-8s, mid-20s to early 30s, already 1 child, who are delighted to spend the night with you for 1, 000 + 300 BF + drinks. These girls are not stunners but they are often pretty and super-loving in the sack.
The other type of experience is the mongers who want to lay a stunner just for the fun of it. Best hunting grounds are the go-gos or perhaps DD. You'll pay 2, 000-4, 000 baht for the total experience (including drinks) , which is not bad compared with the $4, 200 Elliot Spritzer paid in Sex Prison USA. These beautiful girls will not be be as affectionate in the sack. You might have a memorable time but something less than a GFE. In this context, I understand the negative comments some posters have directed toward DD but feel it does fill a market niche. If you just want the girl to come to your hotel, have your fun and pay your 2, 000, it's not the worst option in the world. You lose the ability to chat with the girl over some drinks and size her up, enabling you to eliminate the ones with bad attitudes or where you feel the vibes aren't quite right. But $67 in-and-out for a hot woman can only be seen as a "rip-off" in the context of Pattaya's amazing offerings.
Those seem to be the 2 main experiences. Then there are some hybrids. One night I felt like having a 9-10 stunner. Don't know why. So of course I was heading to the Walking Street to check out a go-go. On the way there, however, I noticed a street hooker right on the Walking Street who was remarkably hot. 20 years old and a very solid 9. Perfect, smooth skin, great figure. One child but not see-section and flat tummy. She charges 1000 ST and 3000 LT. I took ST and didn't regret it one bit. 1000 less than DD and I was even able to size her up in person. Later on in the sack, she said she charges triple for LT because she works the street from 11pm-4am and usually hopes to do ST 3 times. She said the lowest she goes for ST is 1000, which I tend to believe. She was that hot. She noted that she offers 1500 ST and 4500 LT for Indians. (I know it's racism, don't condone it and am just reporting.) As expected, her love-making skills were just so-so and I don't have any illusions that she had an orgasm. That seems to be the case at that level in Thailand.
Anyway, I can't speak highly enough about Pattaya, well worth a visit whatever your tastes and price range. [/QUOTE]Thanks for posting. I plan to check out Beach Road also.
[QUOTE=The Guy; 1160280]Benefitted greatly from advice on the form.
No great revelations but here's what I have to offer:
The hotel:
I stayed at Pattaya Bay Resort based on forum recommendations. No problems. Pleasant, spacious, clean if slightly dated room. Good, cheap resaurant and all for just 1000 / night. It's a good walk into town but hotel has shuttle. Quiet for sleeping. No mini bar but big refrigerator you can stack with drinks. Staff was nice and always respectful to the ladies. When the lady picked up her I'd, they always called to ensure everything was fine.
The town:
I've spent a good amount of time in other spots around the world, such as Rio de Janeiro. I thought Pattaya stacked up pretty well, especially on pricing for just about everything. You can eat awfully well for $10 / person. Totally accessible to the BKK airport. You can pay 400 from downtown BKK to the airport and it's only about 900 from Pattaya to the same airport, although a far greater distance. Air conditioned buses are also a fine option.
The action:
I won't restate too much from recent posts, since I believe the information on the last 10 pages of this forum is quite accurate. I'll just qualify a few recent statements. One monger felt that most of the go-go girls had already given birth. I believe that's a reflection of an individual go-go bar and its policies. In some of the higher-end ones, very few, if any, had given birth. However, a perfect, flat tummy is something that has has a market value and you have to pay for in Pattaya. Maybe an extra 500 or so. Just part of the market. Unlike another poster, I do not believe that prices are on a par with BKK if you compare similar quality levels. Of course, I visited in the low (hot) season and many girls were absolutely desperate for business.
What struck me about Pattaya (and what I hadn't expected) was the high quality of street hookers along the beach road. Most places I've been to, you assume the street hookers are hard-edged drug addicts. That just didn't seem to be the case here. I met (and used) some really nice and rather attractive ladies. Sure, there are lots of lady boys and women of every variety. Overweight, old, weird whatever. But many mongers wouldn't be disappointed just concentrating on this niche in the market. Almost all seem to say 500 ST and 1, 000 LT. You can negotiate them down but I didn't have the heart to.
It seems there are 2 types of experiences that many mongers go for in Pattaya. Some want the GFE. The bars work really well for this. Many of these girls are looking for a BFE (even sugar daddy or husband) in a foreign guy. You will generally not get a 9-10 in these hunting grounds but I've seen some 7-8s, mid-20s to early 30s, already 1 child, who are delighted to spend the night with you for 1, 000 + 300 BF + drinks. These girls are not stunners but they are often pretty and super-loving in the sack.
The other type of experience is the mongers who want to lay a stunner just for the fun of it. Best hunting grounds are the go-gos or perhaps DD. You'll pay 2, 000-4, 000 baht for the total experience (including drinks) , which is not bad compared with the $4, 200 Elliot Spritzer paid in Sex Prison USA. These beautiful girls will not be be as affectionate in the sack. You might have a memorable time but something less than a GFE. In this context, I understand the negative comments some posters have directed toward DD but feel it does fill a market niche. If you just want the girl to come to your hotel, have your fun and pay your 2, 000, it's not the worst option in the world. You lose the ability to chat with the girl over some drinks and size her up, enabling you to eliminate the ones with bad attitudes or where you feel the vibes aren't quite right. But $67 in-and-out for a hot woman can only be seen as a "rip-off" in the context of Pattaya's amazing offerings.
Those seem to be the 2 main experiences. Then there are some hybrids. One night I felt like having a 9-10 stunner. Don't know why. So of course I was heading to the Walking Street to check out a go-go. On the way there, however, I noticed a street hooker right on the Walking Street who was remarkably hot. 20 years old and a very solid 9. Perfect, smooth skin, great figure. One child but not see-section and flat tummy. She charges 1000 ST and 3000 LT. I took ST and didn't regret it one bit. 1000 less than DD and I was even able to size her up in person. Later on in the sack, she said she charges triple for LT because she works the street from 11pm-4am and usually hopes to do ST 3 times. She said the lowest she goes for ST is 1000, which I tend to believe. She was that hot. She noted that she offers 1500 ST and 4500 LT for Indians. (I know it's racism, don't condone it and am just reporting.) As expected, her love-making skills were just so-so and I don't have any illusions that she had an orgasm. That seems to be the case at that level in Thailand.
Anyway, I can't speak highly enough about Pattaya, well worth a visit whatever your tastes and price range. [/QUOTE]Well done, thanks for sharing.
Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=The Guy;1160280]Benefitted greatly from advice on the form. -- No great revelations but here's what I have to offer -- Anyway, I can't speak highly enough about Pattaya, well worth a visit whatever your tastes and price range.[/QUOTE]Excellent trip report. I enjoyed this informative and well-written summary of your time in Pattaya.
I agree with you that there are some nice options along Beach Road, however, they are few and far between at times. For reference, I've included a photo of a BR lady that I met earlier this year.
For the other commentators (below): please truncate (shorten) quoted long reports in order to get to your one sentence point, OK? One does not need to scroll all day to get to your point. ;)
[QUOTE=The Guy;1160280]What struck me about Pattaya (and what I hadn't expected) was the high quality of street hookers along the beach road.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're completely right. I was also very surprised by the high quality of street hookers on Beach Road..)
It all started when I was 16, it's now 15 years on and the desire is as strong as ever.
I type this report from my I phone from brisbane airport after being a casual reader of ISG for 3 years under my dads user name (for picture value) but now I have reached a point where I feel my $20 is long over due. I have chosen this thread because this is where it all began, in a little beer bar opposite dynasty inn with a lovely lady that just wanted to be friends!
It all starts somewhere for all of us and for most never ends ATM I have trouble seeing past it. As my next holiday approaches I will be on paradise again soon!
HD
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1160633]For the other commentators (below): please truncate (shorten) quoted long reports in order to get to your one sentence point, OK? One does not need to scroll all day to get to your point. ;)[/QUOTE]I second that!
[QUOTE=Honeydog; 1160672]It all started when I was 16, it's now 15 years on and the desire is as strong as ever.
I type this report from my I phone from brisbane airport after being a casual reader of ISG for 3 years under my dads user name (for picture value) but now I have reached a point where I feel my $20 is long over due. I have chosen this thread because this is where it all began, in a little beer bar opposite dynasty inn with a lovely lady that just wanted to be friends!
It all starts somewhere for all of us and for most never ends ATM I have trouble seeing past it. As my next holiday approaches I will be on paradise again soon!
HD[/QUOTE]Your dad must be a great father! Welcome.
Lots of banters on this board. This is a quick noobie question. From research it seems that AC is much cheaper than Thailand and Pattaya for that matter. It seems the prices double in Thailand. So why are so many people still heading for Thailand and not AC?
If you could do a SE asian trip and have two weeks to spare for AC and Pattaya, how many days would you devote to each? Obviously you would spend a few days in Pattaya just for the experience. What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?
Thanks,
[QUOTE=Droplet;1160868]What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?[/QUOTE]1) More quantity of girls.
2) Rated X / nude shows at go-go bars.
3) Safety.
4) Better food.
5) Beach / beach activities.
6) More non-mongering tourist activities.
7) Not sure why I'm mentioning this, but for you gay guys out there: LBs and Boyz Town.
Only real advantage that AC has over Pattaya is the fact that English is national language. If this give comforts to people who do not want to learn Thai then by all means go to AC.
I love Filipino food but with more Filipinos working in Thailand now, I'm sure that Filipino food will be there soon.
I'll take Pattaya over AC any day.
[QUOTE=Droplet; 1160868]Lots of banters on this board. This is a quick noobie question. From research it seems that AC is much cheaper than Thailand and Pattaya for that matter. It seems the prices double in Thailand. So why are so many people still heading for Thailand and not AC?
If you could do a SE asian trip and have two weeks to spare for AC and Pattaya, how many days would you devote to each? Obviously you would spend a few days in Pattaya just for the experience. What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?
Thanks, [/QUOTE]This is a very common question posted on the Pattaya and AC boards and I asked it myself before my first trips to both so it might be good to look through past posts but I know the search function has issues.
The girls in AC are cheaper than in Pattaya but some things are cheaper in Pattaya. Let me clarify that things are not necissarily cheaper in Pattaya on an equivalent basis but the lower threshold of what is considered acceptable for a westerner may be cheaper in Pattaya. For example I stayed in a fine lower level hotel on Walking Street in Pattaya for 500 baht ($16) per night. I could not find a similarly priced (700 PHP) hotel on Fields in AC. There are hotels that cheap in AC but they are probably either far down Perimeter or in a dodgy neighborhood. The jeepneys in AC are 9 peso (20 cents) vs the 20 baht bus (67 cents) in Pattaya but it only goes half as far and is less comfortable (much lower ceiling). Food seemed to be cheaper in Pattaya as well. I typically ate for 300 baht ($10) per day at my Walking Street hotel but spent around 700 pesos ($16) at my Fields hotel. There were also some good buffet deals that I saw around Pattaya that I did not see in AC.
It seems that most of the hotels and restaurants in Pattaya are locally run due to the strict labor laws there. A foreign bar owner, for example, is not allowed to be on the service side of the bar so he is just a figurehead with all of the employees being locals. AC has much more hands-on management from the foreigners so this probably drives up the prices for hotels and food. AC has more western style food as well which probably also drives up the prices. AC needs more luxury hotels than Pattaya too because there is no beach or natural recreation so I think you will spend more time at your hotel than in Pattaya. I found the other mongers more approachable and friendly in Pattaya. I think this is a side-effect of the hotel bars being smaller with the owners sitting with the customers. This makes Pattaya a better place to sit around and drink in. It also seems that Pattaya has a higher percentage of Australians while AC higher Americans. Even as an American though I found the Australians in Pattaya more approachable and more willing to give newbie advice than the Americans in AC so this is a positive for Pattaya. The Australians really seemed to like to sit around and drink and talk (sometimes in incomprehensible drunken Australian unfortunately) whereas the American in AC were for the most part cliquey and reserved.
Going to Pattaya from the airport is also less complicated and cheaper than getting to AC from Manila.
A typical budget might be in Pattaya $16 for hotel, $10 for food, $110 for drinks, bar, and girl = $136 per day while in AC $45 for hotel, $16 for food, $65 for drinks, bar, girl, and tip = $126 per day. In either place I am spending $1600 or roughly $100 per day on airfare. So it comes out to $236 vs $226. Not a big difference and if your main motivation is saving money than stay home as I bet you can beat $226 in your home town.
As to your question of a hypothetical 2 weeks in SE Asia where would I go? This is not hypothetical because I will be making that trip soon and it will be entirely in AC. Of course I will only be in one place because I do not want to sacrifice a day traveling but if it was an easy one hour door to door trip I would probably spend 2 or 3 in Pattaya. My main reason is that I personally find the Pinays to be more attractive. The reason that I would like to spend a few days in Pattaya is because there are things there that you cannot find in AC notably a beach and the Devil's Den and the shows are better. The best way I can describe the difference in feels of the places is AC:Pattaya = Tijuana:Las Vegas.
Either way you really cannot go wrong. If you really cannot decide than check out Cebu Pacific flghts from Bangkok to Clark. You can do a week in each and then you will know. Even though I like AC better I am glad that I experienced Pattaya so that I would not waste any time worrying about what I was missing and like I said, if I had more time I would shoot over to Pattaya once in a while too.
(30 May 2011) Rushed through the meeting in KL and left for KLIA just in time to catch the 3. 15pm for Bangkok. Landed at Bangkok Int Airport at 4. 25pm and waited for the BELL bus which left for Pattaya at 6pm. Arrived at 7. 25pm and reached Pasadena Lodge at around 8pm. Checked in, took a shower and headed down to X-Zone where the first bachelor party was supposed to be held. Reached there and could not find the guys and their phones were not active. Decided to go back to LK Metro area for some drinks and look for my companion for the night.
Walked around a bit and finally settled for "Anna Food & Drinks" (opposite Lek Apartment). Had a drink and talked to a girl (Om. 25yo. 5'5") who had just started working in Pattaya for a week. Bar fined her (300B + 1000B LT) and left for some dinner. On the way to dinner received a call from the guy and we met up at Club Blu.
The friend who was going to be married (aka "Bachelor") was so shocked at the display of the ladies on the window that he just sat there intimidated. We saw it was going no way and decided to advance our plan and guided him down the road to Devel Den (DD). We just paid for the services of two ladies and left him to choose. We went to MASH Agogo for some drinks and went back to pick him up about 2hrs later. What we saw coming out of DD was a different man (he was glowing). The rest of the night was spent at MASH Agogo and later with each of us securing a companion for the night headed back to our respective room at either Areca and Pasadena.
Om and I had a go at it all the way to about 5am. After releasing my 3rd shot and multiple climax from Om we slept until 11am (today). Om left and I met up with the guys and proceeded to Sabai Dee for a soapy massage. Nothing to shout about and now I am drinking coffee opposite Devid Den and typing this report. Might just go to DD as I saw two ladies that is just my type ;-)
Cheers
[QUOTE=Edward M;1160948]...The jeepneys in AC are 9 peso (20 cents) vs the 20 baht bus (67 cents) in Pattaya but it only goes half as far and is less comfortable (much lower ceiling).[/QUOTE]The song taew in Pattaya (I guess some farang call it the 'baht bus') is 10 baht, not 20 baht. Please, no one pay 20 baht for this service. Ten baht only.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1161027]The song taew in Pattaya (I guess some farang call it the 'baht bus') is 10 baht, not 20 baht. Please, no one pay 20 baht for this service. Ten baht only.[/QUOTE]It's 10 Baht within 1 city. Example: around Pattaya; many will do the loop aound Beach Road and 2nd Road.
It's 10 additional Baht for each city you cross. Example: Pattaya to Jomtien is 20 baht.
The "standard" is just to charge us the normal prices for shared songtaews:) Of course for private ones, we are Farangs.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1161027]The song taew in Pattaya (I guess some farang call it the 'baht bus') is 10 baht, not 20 baht. Please, no one pay 20 baht for this service. Ten baht only.[/QUOTE]Oops. Mental error on my part. It has been a while. 10 baht for the bus which also makes it cheaper than the jeepney for a longer ride.
[QUOTE=Edward M; 1160948]This is a very common question posted on the Pattaya and AC boards and I asked it myself before my first trips to both so it might be good to look through past posts but I know the search function has issues.
Either way you really cannot go wrong. If you really cannot decide than check out Cebu Pacific flghts from Bangkok to Clark. You can do a week in each and then you will know. Even though I like AC better I am glad that I experienced Pattaya so that I would not waste any time worrying about what I was missing and like I said, if I had more time I would shoot over to Pattaya once in a while too. [/QUOTE]Edward,
Thanks a lot for your report! I have experience in AC and a few other Fils locations, as well as Bangkok and Samui. I have never been to Pattaya and have often wondered what I am "missing". It sounds like a trip is in order, if for no other reason than filling the square and enjoy some of the things it has to offer. I, too enjoy the beach and Thai food, and the ladies are easy on the eyes as well. I am just curious since you didn't mention it, did you try any massages while in town? I enjoy a good massage as a jump start to a fun evening and have found many times that leads a a good GFE experience. TIA.
Sky
[QUOTE=
The friend who was going to be married (aka "Bachelor") was so shocked at the display of the ladies on the window that he just sat there intimidated. We saw it was going no way and decided to advance our plan and guided him down the road to Devel Den (DD). We just paid for the services of two ladies and left him to choose. We went to MASH Agogo for some drinks and went back to pick him up about 2hrs later. What we saw coming out of DD was a different man (he was glowing). S[/QUOTE]
Your post reminded me of all the lame ass Bachelor parties I've been to in the US over the years, where the best the groom to be gets is a lap dance from some mediocre skank (with attitude to boot).
Kudos. You guys sent your pal off the right way.
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1161069]Your post reminded me of all the lame ass Bachelor parties I've been to in the US over the years, where the best the groom to be gets is a lap dance from some mediocre skank (with attitude to boot).
Kudos. You guys sent your pal off the right way. [/QUOTE]The Hangover II anyone?
I know the standard fee appears to 700 + 300 for room.
However I am thinking about spending a couple of nights at the Queen Vic on Soi 6 and would prefer to take the girls back to my room, rather than upstairs at the bar.
Would this negate the 300bt room fee, or does this still apply?
If I can get them back to my room for 700bt, I might just call them up from the balcony and not leave the room for days!
[QUOTE=Chachi420; 1161214]I know the standard fee appears to 700 + 300 for room.
However _____would prefer to take the girls back to my room, rather than upstairs at the bar.
Would this negate the 300bt room fee, or does this still apply?
If I can get them back to my room for 700bt, I might just call them up from the balcony and not leave the room for days! [/QUOTE]Most likely you are forgetting the bar fine that applies always
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1161060]Edward,
Thanks a lot for your report! I have experience in AC and a few other Fils locations, as well as Bangkok and Samui. I have never been to Pattaya and have often wondered what I am "missing". It sounds like a trip is in order, if for no other reason than filling the square and enjoy some of the things it has to offer. I, too enjoy the beach and Thai food, and the ladies are easy on the eyes as well. I am just curious since you didn't mention it, did you try any massages while in town? I enjoy a good massage as a jump start to a fun evening and have found many times that leads a a good GFE experience. TIA.
Sky[/QUOTE]Glad you liked it Sky. No, I did not try any massage even though the guy that talked me into going to Pats strongly recommended it. There was too much to do there and I never got around to the soapies, oilies, BJ bars, or any else not between Soi Diamond and Devil's Den. The place is really huge compared to AC. The strip is about the same length but Pats is more densely packed and 3-4 roads deep with the side streets full of bars unlike AC which is mostly just bars along Fields / Perimeter with some empty areas.
You have got me thinking. Maybe next trip will be back to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1161056]It's 10 Baht within 1 city. Example: around Pattaya; many will do the loop aound Beach Road and 2nd Road.
It's 10 additional Baht for each city you cross. Example: Pattaya to Jomtien is 20 baht. [/QUOTE]No, it's still 10 baht per person from Pattaya to Jomtien, and vice versa, but sometimes drivers want to take 20 baht for, say, Jomtien to North Pattaya. The solution is to hand him 10 baht and walk away. If a confrontation ensues, hand him his 20 baht. Never argue with Thai's.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1161302]No, it's still 10 baht per person from Pattaya to Jomtien, and vice versa, but sometimes drivers want to take 20 baht for, say, Jomtien to North Pattaya. The solution is to hand him 10 baht and walk away. If a confrontation ensues, hand him his 20 baht. Never argue with Thai's.[/QUOTE]So, Daddy, is it the principle or the $0.29 us? ;)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1161316]So, Daddy, is it the principle or the $0.29 us? ;)[/QUOTE]It's the upper front teeth in your mouth you want to keep. :)
[QUOTE=Opebo;1161027]The song taew in Pattaya (I guess some farang call it the 'baht bus') is 10 baht, not 20 baht. Please, no one pay 20 baht for this service. Ten baht only.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Soi 19 and Jomtien Beach Road and the driver would want 20 baht for that far out going into Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1161329]I stayed at Soi 19 and Jomtien Beach Road and the driver would want 20 baht for that far out going into Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Shit Soi 19? I'm surprised he didn't want 200 baht. Move out of the sticks.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1161329]I stayed at Soi 19 and Jomtien Beach Road and the driver would want 20 baht for that far out going into Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Again I apologize for my mental error since it started this thread. I do not know where this is. Did you ask for a specific destination of just get on and let him take his route? If you just went along the baht bus route you should not have to have paid extra. If it is not a special trip and he asks for more just wave him along. Another one will be there in a minute.
I will be in Pattaya on 1st and 2nd of July. Then going to Bangok on the 3rd.
Will the Go Go bars will be closed?
What about street walkers and all the girls walking in the streets?
Should I cancel my trip?
It seems that I have very bad luck
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1161332]Shit Soi 19? I'm surprised he didn't want 200 baht. Move out of the sticks.[/QUOTE]35th floor view was worth it. Stayed for 2 months but started to rent motorbike because baht buses would you-turn at the 2nd police box and head back. Those that went to the end of Jomtien Beach road wanted 20 baht, this is the going rate as told to me by the Scot landlord. A baht taxi from Walking St. Was 200. 400 baht, the later paid 6am New Years Day.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1161332]Shit Soi 19? I'm surprised he didn't want 200 baht. Move out of the sticks.[/QUOTE]Your point makes sense for a monger in Pattaya only for a week or two wanting action 2 or 3 times a day, but for someone who lives here, or stays a month or so, it's close enough to the madness, but far enough away for relaxation and quiet.
Well he was a different man after DD.
My report will follow.
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1161069]Your post reminded me of all the lame ass Bachelor parties I've been to in the US over the years, where the best the groom to be gets is a lap dance from some mediocre skank (with attitude to boot).
Kudos. You guys sent your pal off the right way. [/QUOTE]
(31 may 2011). after typing my report, got a call from the guys and we met up at areca. since it was late afternoon, we decided to start the bachelor on the correct mood by steering him to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for a nice session to start the evening. man you should see his face when told what the speciality of the ladies were (priceless!). paid for the session upfront and select a lady to march him in.
he came out smiling and we told him the evening is only getting better. took a walk through mike's and took the bath bus to walking street where we had an early dinner at the beer garden. food was good but the selection was poor. after dinner we took a stroll down ws but it was crowded with families and children! what a let down.
decided to come back at the later part of the evening and went for a 2-hr thai massage at sawadee massage (just round the corner from ws). had a relaxing massage and when we came out it was close to 11pm. made our way to x-zone and the real education began for the bachelor. he was shocked on entering and after a few kinky actions with the ladies, he went wild and the rest of the night was great. we left the place at 12. 30am and finally made it to mash (where the guys took the same ladies as previous night whom apparently they had arranged the bar-fine earlier without my knowledge). i was stuck as i had no lady!
the guys left me for their rooms and i felt like a arse. wondered around lk metro area and finally decided to sleep alone.
[quote=normad2020;1161711](31 may 2011). after typing my report, got a call from the guys and we met up at areca. since it was late afternoon, we decided to start the bachelor on the correct mood by steering him to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] for a nice session to start the evening. man you should see his face when told what the speciality of the ladies were (priceless!).[/quote]i have to ask, what is the specialty of the ladies at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]? i looked at their web site and could not figure it out.
and what are they wearing under their skirts? nothing i hope!
bbbj+cim (optional)
[quote=edward m; 1161751]i have to ask, what is the specialty of the ladies at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]? i looked at their web site and could not figure it out.
and what are they wearing under their skirts? nothing i hope! [/quote]
(1 june 2011) i woke up at around 10am (after a very deep sleep alone) and was horny. decided to walk about 20m to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and has a nice morning release (700b). i just selected the lady with the biggest boob (age was beside the point) proceeded inside. since it was early and there were no other customer decided to just do it on the ground floor. thereafter went back to my room and took a shower.
called the guys and we headed over to central festive mall for lunch at the food court. from the look on their face they had a good time with their respective ladies. gave them a piece of my mind (pertaining to last night arrangement) and we called the matter settled. we went to aree massage (diagonally opposite canterbury tales cafe) and had a nice massage with hj. we took the whole place as their were 6 of us. it was fund.
later went for a walk along beach road. what we saw were mainly lb and what tg were available was either old or fat and they target clients seems to be the indian and middle eastern. we walked and ended up at soi 6 where the bachelor was once again given an education. we ended up at saigon girls and each of us took a st. it was a novelty for all of us.
now need to board my plane. will continue later.
cheers
Can anyone advise on the best time of year to visit Bangkok / Pattaya? I'm debating whether to go in maybe June or August / September. Is there a best time of the season to visit in terms of available women and weather? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Chichichi;1161897]Can anyone advise on the best time of year to visit Bangkok / Pattaya? I'm debating whether to go in maybe June or August / September. Is there a best time of the season to visit in terms of available women and weather? Thanks.[/QUOTE]For the weather, June is definitely better. August / September are peak of the rainy season. Torrential rains for 1-2h each day, possible flooding. Manageable with a bit of patience, it doesn't put things on hold much (businesses and transportation still run etc.).
As for the girls, there is no huge difference (a newbie wouldn't notice a difference). Low season has its perks, especially in Pattaya: lower prices, less competition, more relaxed atmosphere, but most venues / girls still work, they don't suddenly take an 8-month break.
The *best* time IMO is early November -- not much rain, cooler weather (still really hot!), and not quite the peak of the high season (with hordes of tourists all over). On the other hand, if you're sitting at home with blue balls, the best time to go is definitely NOW, or at least soon.
Hey Fast Eddie,
I know there's plenty to do in Costa Rica, I was saying not much to do in San Jose. I appreciate your response though and all of the other great suggestions sincerely. Thanks guys, I'll be there in the beginning of July!
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1159400]To Derori,
I been to San jose a few time and I go to Pattaya 2 time a yr, mongering is much better in Pattaya but there are more thing to do in San Jose you can go to the casino to play poker or take a eco tour, it is very beautiful place you just need to get out of the city go to some of the national park and beach in CR.
Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
[quote=edward m; 1161751]i have to ask, what is the specialty of the ladies at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]? i looked at their web site and could not figure it out.
and what are they wearing under their skirts? nothing i hope! [/quote][url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s specialized in satisfying the oral urges."bj cityl"
My friend is about to head to Pattaya for a few days. I visited a few times in the mid-00s, haven't been there since then. I mentioned to him about the discos at Walking Street, as one possible thing to check out. WHen I was last there, Marine was a pretty good one. A little more user-friendly for pickups than other ones (not too dark) and plenty of girls, including ones getting off of work at go-gos at 2am. Also, EVERY girl there was available to be picked up. It wasn't a mix of normal clubgoers and working girls. It was 100% working girls and guys there to pick them up. (yes I do realize this might be a tall order)
How about these days? What are the best discos to hit nowadays? Do the gogo bars still close at 2? And do the gogo girls still often go to the disco to find customers after work? What would be a good time to head to the disco?
Any info appreciated.
Thanks.
Wendella
[QUOTE=Wendella;1162685]How about these days? What are the best discos to hit nowadays? Do the gogo bars still close at 2? And do the gogo girls still often go to the disco to find customers after work? What would be a good time to head to the disco?[/QUOTE]When I went to Marine in January, there seemed to be a lot of ladyboys there. I personally prefer Lucifers disco. Went there every night during my last trip a few weeks ago. Insomnia could be good as well.
Hotel Recommendations:
Centre Beach Hotel on Central Pattaya Road. The amenities might seem a bit old, but the room is spacious and clean. Very quiet once inside the room. Have a good breakfast buffet and swimming pool. Extremely convenient.
Eastiny Inn or Plaza, both are under the same corporate and located on Soi 8. The next block is Hilton Central Festival. The breakfast is OK as well. Soi 8 has some attractions such as Club 23. The pool is quiet though a bit smaller.
Prices are good for both Centre Beach and Eastiny.
Piyada Residence Inn located on Third Road. 15 minutes walk to WS. The room is OK, nothing fancy. $20 for a nite, no complains.
Sea Lover Inn located in Jomtein next to the elephant trek, a bit isolated from all action. It assembles Japanese love hotel type. Better to get a girl before checking in since commute may be a problem. Nice room for boom boom. Breakfast has american or pork congee delivered to room with no extra charge.
Never paid or heard joiner fee unless you bring more than one girl.
Transportation:
Tuk Tuk taxi is only 10 baht around Pattaya. Even from Pattaya to Jomtein or Nakula. Motorbike taxi should be 30 baht for each person. From Pattaya to Tesco or the Premium Outlet, simply change the taxi before going all the way to Jomtein. The hotel would charge 300 baht one way.
Bar fine is only 300 baht for bars and 1500 baht for LT. There are some hidden gems in the bars next to the beer garden. Most bar girls have kids though. The girls know how to please their customers. I got a girl that owns a motorbike. We rode all the way from Pattaya to Jomtein See Lover Inn. Imagine I sat behind her on the way. She was only 20 and she demanded more than I do. What a great fun!
However, I went to a bar across the Saiba Land Massage. I tried to bar fine a dancing girl and she said the bar fine was 600 baht and she only does short time. The name of the bar is Cherry something. Bad attitude.
Went to Supergirls A gogo, the bar fine is 600 baht and LT is 2500 baht. Lots of talents. The only thing was the LT is only until 5AM. I gave up and went to Happy A go go, which caters many Chinese and Japanese. Tons of young talents and I got a girl to stay with me until 9AM. She has a nice firm body with medium size boos and round ass. I recommend Happy Agogo.
AMP around Big C. They all having some kind of promotion. 90 mins for 1800 baht. I had a great time at one of the three AMPs. The girl claimed that I fuck her so hard, she suggested I should take 2 girls next time.
Took a day trip to Ko Lank island and met some chicks from Taiwan. I volunteered to be their photographer and ended up to hang out with them in the evening drinking and shooting shit. Pure fun!
Boned another go go girl the fist nite. I couldn't remember which go go clun though. The girl left early even though I paid for LT.
Pattaya these days seems to have many more Iranian and Russian. There is a session behind WS just dedicated to the Middle Easterners. First I thought I went into Cairo. Some thing about Russian. Russian are all over and there are even Russian shops and TV channels. Pattaya must be a good place for money laundring.
Clubbing:
Lucifer or Isomnia are good for free lancers. Go at 2AM or before they close at 3AM. Marines is longer the same.
Food:
WS has many good seafood places. Hilton Central Festival on the top floors are good places to eat and hang out. Prices are still very cheap but sanitation is much better than street vendors.
DO NOT GO to El Toro Steakhouse, the wine is nasty and the steak is poor. The price is ridiculous for what I paid for. Want go steak, get it at home.
Don't pay more than 1300 baht (including 60 baht tolls) from or to the BKK airport. Take the bus which costs only 200 baht.
If you haven't been to Pattaya, go and have fun. There are some other things to do like the tiger zoo, elephant trek, cocodile farm, big Buddha mountain, wooden Buddhist Temple with doplins, floating market, parasailing, submarine, scuba diving, etc. Take a thai girl with you as well.
But Pattaya is no longer the same compare to 10, 15 or 20 yrs ago.
It seems like Vietnam and Cambodia are newer destinations.
I have heard that most gogos have short-time rooms adjacent to the club.
How much do these rooms cost you, and how are they? Secluded? Clean?
Naive question from one who's never checked it out:
Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street?
Is it worth seeing in the afternoon?
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1163498]Naive question from one who's never checked it out:
Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street?
Is it worth seeing in the afternoon? [/QUOTE]North of Walking Street. It is a long stretch, and well worth seeing pretty much anytime. We call it the Coconut Bar.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1163498]Naive question from one who's never checked it out: Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street? Is it worth seeing in the afternoon?[/QUOTE]North of WS.
Yes, the afternoon often brings out a variety of women, some pretty, for their first trick of the day,
[QUOTE=JenniferAdam;1163063]It seems like Vietnam and Cambodia are newer destinations.[/QUOTE]Cambodia is great, but Vietnam SUCKS for mongering. Don't bother as it's probably the worst country in all of Asia for p4p. Even South Korea is better than Vietnam.
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1163498]Naive question from one who's never checked it out:
Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street? Is it worth seeing in the afternoon? [/QUOTE]Beach Road IS Walking Street. It just changes names at the Pattaya Tai (South Pattaya Road) intersection when the buildings start to be on the waterfront instead of the beach. It's always worth seeing.
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1162685]How about these days? What are the best discos to hit nowadays? Do the gogo bars still close at 2? And do the gogo girls still often go to the disco to find customers after work? What would be a good time to head to the disco?
Wendella,
After spending a few months in Pattaya I would recommend Lucifer, ibar & Insomnia.
I normally arrive into Lucifer around 12. 45. If I haven't found anyone that I want to take home, then I will go to iBar and Insomnia around 2am.
The GoGo's close around 3am, and some of the girls often go to Insomnia after, as it closes around 5am.
There's another disco called Mixx, but it's further down walking st and it's smaller. Plus you will often find that the girls from Lucifer go there if they haven't found anyone
"Even from Pattaya to Jomtein or Nakula. Motorbike taxi should be 30 baht for each person"
I was staying around Bali hai pier and the cheapest motorbike taxi to central WS was 30-40 Baht. Was I ripped off? And what is the minimum for a short trip? At night time they wanted 50-60.
I agree with another poster that Vietnam is the pits. Avoid. In Cambodia, some pay $200-400 a month for a full time gal for WIFE duties Wash, Iron, Fu. K, Etc. That's nice, if you are in no hurry with monogamist tendencies. That's good money for Cambo, considering unskilled position generally pays $40 per month. Beers in Cambo are 50cents-$1, its cheap. The downside is that it is unwise to wander around at night alone, and that Cambo girls can get lazy fast. IMHO Pattaya is just nicer, safer, and luxury, as in Cambo most places only feel like 2 star hostels.
[QUOTE=Butter69; 1163608]After spending a few months in Pattaya I would recommend Lucifer, ibar & Insomnia.
I normally arrive into Lucifer around 12. 45. If I haven't found anyone that I want to take home, then I will go to iBar and Insomnia around 2am.
The GoGo's close around 3am, and some of the girls often go to Insomnia after, as it closes around 5am.
There's another disco called Mixx, but it's further down walking st and it's smaller. Plus you will often find that the girls from Lucifer go there if they haven't found anyone[/QUOTE]Great reply, thanks. I never heard of iBar before.
I agree that your idea of doing the disco crawl, figuring out what the circuit is that the girls go on, is the way to go. Used to do that in Bangkok back in the days when Grace Coffee Shop was a decent final destination.
[QUOTE=JenniferAdam;1163063]Even from Pattaya to Jomtein or Nakula. Motorbike taxi should be 30 baht for each person.[/QUOTE]I am glad I read this forum. A few times I took a scooter taxi with a girl (driver, me, she on the same scooter) on short trips within Pattaya. She told me to give the driver 100. I do not know if she was trying to scam me or getting conned herself. She did a few times get street food for me (so that I would pay the local rate not the tourist) so at least in that case she was trying to save me money. The food discount was real. One time she got something for me while I was standing there and 5 minutes later I went to the same vendor alone and he wanted double what I had just paid. When I complained that I just paid half that he gave me 3/4 as much for the cheaper price.
When I was leaving for good I was waiting with this same girl with my luggage for the baht bus to take me to the bus terminal. The first bus that came by said 100 baht. I said keep moving, I will pay 20 (10 for me and 10 for her). He quickly said,"OK 50." I said,"No. 20. I'll take that bus right behind you." My girl seemed genuinely bewildered and said,"That is a good rate. You should go!" I told her,"No. It is always 10 baht. He is a crook." She really didn't seem to understand. She said she had never taken the baht bus before. Maybe it was BS. Note that she also must have been pretty drunk because she drank more than I did that night and she was half my size and I was pretty buzzed too and I have heard drunks say more outrageous things than that.
Other than "Thai helps Thai" I cannot guess why she would try to intentionally con me into giving drivers more than the going rate while getting me the local food rate. I doubt that the drivers who we met at random would remember her and we are talking about tens of baht so even if they split the take we are talking about about a few dollars while this same girl refused to accept the 1000 baht that I owed her as I was leaving (presumably the best time to pull a scam since the chance of losing a client would be extremely low). Maybe when she was alone she always walked everywhere and only took transport when with a client so she really didn't know the prices.
He quickly said,"OK 50." I said,"No. 20. I'll take that bus right behind you." My girl seemed genuinely bewildered and said,"That is a good rate. You should go!" I told her,"No. It is always 10 baht. He is a crook." She really didn't seem to understand. She said she had never taken the baht bus before. Maybe it was BS. Note that she also must have been pretty drunk because she drank more than I did that night and she was half my size and I was pretty buzzed too and I have heard drunks say more outrageous things than that.
No you don't understand. The girl was right and you are wrong, and very paranoid. The trucks that run on a set route for a set price regardless of distance, are like buses in West. These are called baht buses. Those lined up at a stall are like a taxi. One of which is at 2nd road at south Pattaya road. If you negotiate with the taxi driver to take you and as many other that fit to Jomtien 100 baht would be a very good price. If you take a passing by baht bus it would be 10 baht per person.
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1163498]Naive question from one who's never checked it out:
Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street?
Is it worth seeing in the afternoon? [/QUOTE]Beach Road (Coconut Bar) is worth checking out at ANY time of the day. Probably the best stretch is from W. S. To around Soi 6.
OK, not EVERY girl is a 'stunner' but in my experience there are always a few sweeties to keep a man happy for an hour or two.
Also, it is, in my opinion, the BEST value for money in the whole of Pattaya for a playmate.
You should easily be able to get S / T at 500 Baht and NO Bar Fine!! (if business is slow then perhaps even a little lower!)
Enjoy, I do.
Hotman
Size has nothing to do with Alcohol when you talk about Bar Girls. 2 things:
1. She probably drinks heavily on a Daily basis, so despite her size, she is well trained.
2. They water down these lady drinks quite a lot to make sure the girls stay fresh while the punters go drunk.
I would try switching drinks if I were you and you'll be surprised that her Gin & Tonic does not have (or very little) gin in it. Or that her Tequila is in fact water.
I would not be surprised
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1163503]North of WS.
Yes, the afternoon often brings out a variety of women, some pretty, for their first trick of the day, [/QUOTE]Hi Fon Tok,
Love your pics!
Having been to Pattaya several times, I have never tasted the fruit of the coccnut bar.
This is partly due to the slim pickings, and also not having the bottle to proposition the decent ones.
I always fear getting my face slapped for picking a non-working girl.
The last picture of your latest batch is a prime example. She looks great and for 500bt a freaking bargain. However why would a girl who looks like that be walking the beach looking for a quick 500bt, when she could easily get top dollar in a gogo. She must therefore be a non-working girls simply out for a stroll, or on lunch from work.
I'm sure this thought process has cost me many happy endings. But how on earth do you tell?
[QUOTE=Chachi420;1164057]I'm sure this thought process has cost me many happy endings. But how on earth do you tell?[/QUOTE]Easy. Non-working girls generally do not stand and loiter on Beach Road. If you look a woman in her eyes and she smiles back at you approvingly, you're pretty much assured that she is available.
You can also stop and make small talk with the women. I do this a lot while taking photos. Usually, they will say "I go with you," at some point in the conversation.
However, that does not mean every woman on BR is in the "game." I've had women friends, (albeit working girls in clubs) , tell me they've been approached and propositioned. These girls like to go down to the beach and eat som tam in the daytime (and they don't like to be propositioned).
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1164074]However, that does not mean every woman on BR is in the "game." I've had women friends, (albeit working girls in clubs) , tell me they've been approached and propositioned. These girls like to go down to the beach and eat som tam in the daytime (and they don't like to be propositioned).[/QUOTE]I also know non-pros who relax on Beach Road drinking beer and looking at the ocean, usually at night though. But like you said if you read the signals or open your mouth and try to talk to them then you will know whether they are working or not.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic; 1164002]He quickly said,"OK 50." I said,"No. 20. I'll take that bus right behind you." My girl seemed genuinely bewildered and said,"That is a good rate. You should go!" I told her,"No. It is always 10 baht. He is a crook." She really didn't seem to understand. She said she had never taken the baht bus before. Maybe it was BS. Note that she also must have been pretty drunk because she drank more than I did that night and she was half my size and I was pretty buzzed too and I have heard drunks say more outrageous things than that.
No you don't understand. The girl was right and you are wrong, and very paranoid. The trucks that run on a set route for a set price regardless of distance, are like buses in West. These are called baht buses. Those lined up at a stall are like a taxi. One of which is at 2nd road at south Pattaya road. If you negotiate with the taxi driver to take you and as many other that fit to Jomtien 100 baht would be a very good price. If you take a passing by baht bus it would be 10 baht per person. [/QUOTE]It was a (10) baht bus. It wasn't parked but traveling down Walking Street as was the one behind him. They both took the same route and both picked up more people on the way to Jomtien. He was trying to make some quick money on a naive tourist.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1164039]Size has nothing to do with Alcohol when you talk about Bar Girls. 2 things:
1. She probably drinks heavily on a Daily basis, so despite her size, she is well trained.
2. They water down these lady drinks quite a lot to make sure the girls stay fresh while the punters go drunk.
I would try switching drinks if I were you and you'll be surprised that her Gin & Tonic does not have (or very little) gin in it. Or that her Tequila is in fact water.
I would not be surprised[/QUOTE]Well 1 and 2 contradict each other don't you think? For most of the night we were drinking the same bottled beer not LDs. She was pretty bombed.
[QUOTE=Edward M;1164148]Well 1 and 2 contradict each other don't you think?[/QUOTE]Absolutely. Welcome to Thailand, nothing makes sense here.
First off, I'd like to thank all for the great reports. Great info here!
I'm thinking of going for a week. If someone could answer my questions I'd appreciate it!
1. What's the best Hotels.
2. What's the average price for a good looking young gal 20-30.
3. How much does it cost for a week in total minus air fair
Thanks again
[QUOTE=Fordsvt; 1164203]First off, I'd like to thank all for the great reports. Great info here!
I'm thinking of going for a week. If someone could answer my questions I'd appreciate it!
1. What's the best Hotels.
2. What's the average price for a good looking young gal 20-30.
3. How much does it cost for a week in total minus air fair
Thanks again[/QUOTE]Always happy to answer interesting and unusual questions.
1. Most people would say the Shangri-La or Sheraton.
2. This is answered in many places, but the consensus is that her price is far above rubies.
3. $42 (or $45 if you leave a tip).
No worries Winnipeg.
[QUOTE=Fordsvt; 1164203]First off, I'd like to thank all for the great reports. Great info here!
I'm thinking of going for a week. If someone could answer my questions I'd appreciate it!
1. What's the best Hotels.
2. What's the average price for a good looking young gal 20-30.
3. How much does it cost for a week in total minus air fair
Thanks again[/QUOTE]Fordwurst, I need to tell you that although Mouse1 is close to correct, his answers are a little off the mark. Now first of all I congratulate you for asking your questions before doing any research, since all of the advise offered here is wrong. You can only trust the advice I am about to give you now. Are you ready? Then let's begin.
1. Mouse1 is correct about the Shangri La as being the best hotel, but what he neglected to say is that the best hotel is actually the Shangri La in Bangkok. Bangkok is only 5 minutes away from Pattaya's Walking Street by tuk tuk.
2. The most expensive girls are pretty and 20 years old. They always cost exactly 3, 000 Baht. The cheapest girls are ugly and 30 years old. They are usually willing to pay you 3, 000 Baht for a good time. So when you average it out, the gals are in fact free.
3. I am glad that you asked about the total cost for a week minus airfare, because it saves me the time of sending you a PM to ask how much your airfare is costing you. The Bangkok Shangri La is $10 per night but you can get that down to $5 per night if you use a coupon. Food costs are limited to $2 per day by Thai law. And like we already established, the girls are free. So your total costs $7 per day or $49 per week. Tipping is illegal. Mouse1 was close with his answer, but he should have done more research first.
So now all you need to do is save up $49 (plus your airfare of course) , and away you go!
Raz
[QUOTE=RasSpewtin; 1164270]Fordwurst, I need to tell you that although Mouse1 is close to correct, his answers are a little off the mark. Now first of all I congratulate you for asking your questions before doing any research, since all of the advise offered here is wrong. You can only trust the advice I am about to give you now. Are you ready? Then let's begin.
1. Mouse1 is correct about the Shangri La as being the best hotel, but what he neglected to say is that the best hotel is actually the Shangri La in Bangkok. Bangkok is only 5 minutes away from Pattaya's Walking Street by tuk tuk.
2. The most expensive girls are pretty and 20 years old. They always cost exactly 3, 000 Baht. The cheapest girls are ugly and 30 years old. They are usually willing to pay you 3, 000 Baht for a good time. So when you average it out, the gals are in fact free.
3. I am glad that you asked about the total cost for a week minus airfare, because it saves me the time of sending you a PM to ask how much your airfare is costing you. The Bangkok Shangri La is $10 per night but you can get that down to $5 per night if you use a coupon. Food costs are limited to $2 per day by Thai law. And like we already established, the girls are free. So your total costs $7 per day or $49 per week. Tipping is illegal. Mouse1 was close with his answer, but he should have done more research first.
So now all you need to do is save up $49 (plus your airfare of course) , and away you go!
Raz[/QUOTE]Ooops, I didn't do my research! Just a few extra points:
1. Pattaya is well over 10 minutes walk from Bangkok's Tuk Tuk Street.
2. The 30-year-old's will give you a good time but the 20 year-old's will give you a bad time, so again it evens out! Thailand: crazy place, eh? (On reflection, hmmm....)
3. I had assumed that he would get Thailand's 'Stay for 6 Days, Get Sunday Free' deal.
But his major cost will be sponsoring the air fair. That's like an air show, right? Could be $millions.
Enough!
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1163080]I have heard that most gogos have short-time rooms adjacent to the club.
How much do these rooms cost you, and how are they? Secluded? Clean? [/QUOTE]Misty's GoGo has rooms. Sometimes they do have some real lookers in there. Can't remember how much I paid, but the rooms were decent and bathroom was clean too. Was told the girl I took only did short time. Which is not my norm, but she was so smoking hot I went upstairs.
[QUOTE=Fordsvt; 1164203]First off, I'd like to thank all for the great reports. Great info here!
I'm thinking of going for a week. If someone could answer my questions I'd appreciate it!
1. What's the best Hotels.
2. What's the average price for a good looking young gal 20-30.
3. How much does it cost for a week in total minus air fair
Thanks again[/QUOTE]ANSWERS.
1) The one that you find yourself in with two sweet playmates on a hot afternoon.
2) Hmmm, not easy! 500 to 5, 000+ Baht S / T.
L / T = rather more,or PERHAPS LESS!!! (BUT the time MAY be shorter). You choose!
3) About half as much as most other comparable mongering destinations.
Remember T. I. T. (This Is Thailand.) NOTHING is predictable or makes much sense!
Just RTFF, buy a ticket and GO. It will all become VERY clear.
Enjoy, I do!
Hotman.
P.S. RasSpewtin / Mouse.
If you are quoting prices in $$$ then PLEASE specify US$ ,Sing$ or Au$.$
After all, how is the poor guy supposed to budget if you do not specify the currency. How will he know what his accomodation costs (of 42$ / week) actualy mean!
Come on Guys, lets TRY to be a bit more helpfull! OK?
We SHOULD try to help each other after all.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1163510]Cambodia is great, but Vietnam SUCKS for mongering. Don't bother as it's probably the worst country in all of Asia for p4p. Even South Korea is better than Vietnam.[/QUOTE]Good info Mangofan, thank you. I am doing my research now to plan a 2 week holiday to Southeast Asia. I will fly in and out of Bangkok. I want to stay a few days in Bangkok and a lot of time in Pattaya. I was thinking of going to Cambodia and Vietnam, but I think I'll cross of Vietnam now. I do not want to spend a lot of time and money travelling around. My question is this:
Does anyone have a recommendation for a trip to Cambodia for a few days from either Pattaya or Bangkok? What cities? Mode of transportation? Time / cost of transportaton?
My apologies for posting on the Pattaya forum, but I'm looking for advice from anyone that has worked in a trip to Cambodia while in Thailand.
Also, is September / October considered low season as far as rates for mongering?
Thank you in advance fine gentlemen.
As I type this report I will make Thailand my home base of operation now this place has everything a man can dream for Rest & Relaxsation and other activities to do besides mongering which no other mongering destination offers. I started out as strictly a Latin-American monger but now I am an Asian convert, from now on I will not waste my vacation time in Latin-America it will be for Asia only and quick short trips to Latin-America. I have been here for week now and it feels like time is going by so quick even though I still have 10 more days.
[QUOTE=Droplet; 1160868]Lots of banters on this board. This is a quick noobie question. From research it seems that AC is much cheaper than Thailand and Pattaya for that matter. It seems the prices double in Thailand. So why are so many people still heading for Thailand and not AC?
If you could do a SE asian trip and have two weeks to spare for AC and Pattaya, how many days would you devote to each? Obviously you would spend a few days in Pattaya just for the experience. What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?
Thanks, [/QUOTE]I've been to both, and I'd spend all my time in Pattaya!
[QUOTE=Pana Nyc;1164556]As I type this report I will make Thailand my home base of operation now this place has everything a man can dream for Rest & Relaxsation and other activities to do besides mongering which no other mongering destination offers. I started out as strictly a Latin-American monger but now I am an Asian convert, from now on I will not waste my vacation time in Latin-America it will be for Asia only and quick short trips to Latin-America. I have been here for week now and it feels like time is going by so quick even though I still have 10 more days.[/QUOTE]OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern America
[QUOTE=Edward M;1163995]5 minutes later I went to the same vendor alone and he wanted double what I had just paid. When I complained that I just paid half that he gave me 3/4 as much for the cheaper price.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Thailand.
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1162685]My friend is about to head to Pattaya for a few days. I visited a few times in the mid-00s, haven't been there since then. I mentioned to him about the discos at Walking Street, as one possible thing to check out. WHen I was last there, Marine was a pretty good one. A little more user-friendly for pickups than other ones (not too dark) and plenty of girls, including ones getting off of work at go-gos at 2am. Also, EVERY girl there was available to be picked up. It wasn't a mix of normal clubgoers and working girls. It was 100% working girls and guys there to pick them up. (yes I do realize this might be a tall order)
How about these days? What are the best discos to hit nowadays? Do the gogo bars still close at 2? And do the gogo girls still often go to the disco to find customers after work? What would be a good time to head to the disco?
Any info appreciated.
Thanks.
Wendella[/QUOTE]Best Disco is Insomnia and a lot of the go go girls do go there after work. You can see them all standing all around the place with the other FL. Most of the Go-Go's close are two. Few are open later if the customers are still in there. The later you go to Insomnia the more packed it will be. Went there at midnight and it wasn't that packed. Then went back at 2am, the place was packed full.
[QUOTE=Keeniu;1163618]I was staying around Bali hai pier and the cheapest motorbike taxi to central WS was 30-40 Baht. Was I ripped off? And what is the minimum for a short trip? At night time they wanted 50-60.[/QUOTE]You weren't ripped off. 40 baht is normal. And at night it's normal that they want a little more.
Hello All,
I have been reading this forum for over a week now. I have booked my tickets to Bangkok for the second week of August and would be staying in Thailand for 10 days. I got to learn that it is the low season time in Pattaya in August. I have a few questions from the people who've experience of mongering in this Adult Disneyland.
1. Is the situation for Indians real bad when it comes to being treated at bars and agogos when compared to their "farang" counterparts (I got freaked out to know this discrimination. As Indians happen to be a good hosts to the visitors coming down to our country)?
2. Would it be difficult to access girls in the low season period?
3. The weather being projected is hot and rainy (couple of hours a day). Can this seriously affect the plans. (We're 3-4 guys planning a stay just for the sake of mongering)
4. Can somebody suggest the best places (if there is highly prevalent racism) for Indians to hang out in any specific bars or agogos?
Thanks in advance.
Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.
I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1137412]I met a lady on TLL last month. She has been married to a guy in the Thai Army who she hasn't seen in years since she was 18 or so. Now she is 35 and runs a bar over near the Big Buddha. Her tits are so fucking big that she does not even know what size bra she wears. I looked inside but there is nothing there. She said that she can not buy bras in Thailand because they are not big enough. The ones she have now some lady brought from Norway for her. But anyway.
Since I first started talking to her online she would flat out say how horny she was, how wet she was, and how much she wanted to fuck me. And she always emphasized that she did not want any money. She just wanted to fuck. So I gave her a few chances but because she works at the bar and finishes late nothing was ever able to materialize because I'm usually already with someone by the time she gets off. But still, she would not stop bugging me; texts, calls, instant messages. Finally she had a day off and I went to the bar to meet her and she followed me back to my place.
At first she was a little sheepish but finally loosened up. I don't know when the last time she had dick was. I asked her if she ever goes with the customers from the bar and she said it depends but hardly ever. We did anal and everything else that day. When I finally coaxed her to leave later on that night by telling her I was going out with my friends (which was true) she forgot her cell phone. I did not even realize it until about an hour later when I made up the bed and was ready to walk out. I figured I would just drop it by the bar. When I got downstairs she was waiting outside. We have a security door and she could not remember the room number to call up. I gave her the phone and we both rode off.
Ever since that day it has still been the same thing. She keeps begging me for sex. Would anyone like to take her off my hands? LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm sure many would have bugged you on giving her contact. I wouldn't mind being with her too. Though my trip is still a couple of months away.
[QUOTE=Redfield10;1164564]I've been to both, and I'd spend all my time in Pattaya![/QUOTE]I used to go to Angeles for months every year and have defended the shit-hole in many discussions. But I have witnessed so many crimes and setups against foreigners the last couple of years, some really scary stuff too, that I have now totally stopped going there and will concentrate on Thailand and Cambodia. Immigration and all kinds of Agencies are now very active pursuing the criminalizing of mongers (sex-tourists) and this leaves us very vulnerable to setups on every level.
At the moment I am having a great time in the Soi Bouakao area, where there is many smaller bars and also a few good, normal priced GOGO places. For some good fun watching the action of the local lady-boy crowd a must see is POOK Bar, which is just outside the place where I stay, the Diana-Oasis hotel. I feel very comfortable there and the location is just great. If you avoid the rip-off places on Walking Str, overall the prices in Thailand are cheaper. My very nice and modern studio costs me about 1000 Phil. Pesos / 750Baht / day / incl. Nice brekkie. I paid almost double for a much inferior hotel room in Angeles and did not even get a brekkie. Girls want anywhere from 700-1000 Baht Lt. Which again is less than the 1500- 2500 Pesos BF in Angeles, wher many of the girls are non-performers, runners or bullshiters. The only real advantage in Angeles is they speak reasonably well English and their is plenty of Aussie mates there to have some good fun.
Heading out for some beers now. More at a later point. Jackyboy
The distance / price of plane tickets discourage the average American from even thinking about visting Thailand, those two factors means nothing to me. LOL!
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1164566]OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern America[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1164566]OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern America[/QUOTE]Thats funny, but so true. It may be a little harder for them to get to Asia though.
Chris H
[QUOTE=Monkey1818;1164297]Misty's GoGo has rooms. Sometimes they do have some real lookers in there. Can't remember how much I paid, but the rooms were decent and bathroom was clean too. Was told the girl I took only did short time. Which is not my norm, but she was so smoking hot I went upstairs.[/QUOTE]Had take out both LT & and another time ST with a beer server back at condo in Jomtien. Looked 25 but said she was 39. Was great fun. Found some of the servers (called service staff) at gogos were not taken out often and were alot less jaded but as cute as the dancers.
[QUOTE=Chris H; 1164733]Thats funny, but so true. It may be a little harder for them to get to Asia though.
Chris H[/QUOTE]Actually I have just come back from Phils and I'd say 50% plus of the mongers there are Americans, I think it's a combination of the distance and the thought of an exotic language that keeps the nos of Americans in Thailand down to say 10% of the total? Most Americans are OK with English and familiar with Spanish but many who have not travelled extensively are wary of countries speaking non European languages.
[QUOTE=Vikalp; 1164622]Hello, All,
I have been reading this forum for over a week now. I have booked my tickets to Bangkok for the second week of August and would be staying in Thailand for 10 days. I got to learn that it is the low season time in Pattaya in August. I have a few questions from the people who've experience of mongering in this Adult Disneyland.
1. Is the situation for Indians real bad when it comes to being treated at bars and agogos when compared to their "farang" counterparts (I got freaked out to know this discrimination. As Indians happen to be a good hosts to the visitors coming down to our country)?
2. Would it be difficult to access girls in the low season period?
3. The weather being projected is hot and rainy (couple of hours a day). Can this seriously affect the plans. (We're 3-4 guys planning a stay just for the sake of mongering)
4. Can somebody suggest the best places (if there is highly prevalent racism) for Indians to hang out in any specific bars or agogos?
Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]I've been to Patts many times in Aug and you will not have problems finding girls. Sometimes it does rain but sometimes it doesn't, but it shouldn't interfere with your plans. Make the most of it, just chill out have a beer or get a massage and then go on to the next place. Some Thai's don't like Indians, but so does other people in the world and that shouldn't stop you from having a good time. If a particular bar or girl doesn't want to service you because you're Indian, then take your business somewhere else. There will be plenty others that will want your $$$$ because it is low season.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1164768]Had take out both LT & and another time ST with a beer server back at condo in Jomtien. Looked 25 but said she was 39. Was great fun. Found some of the servers (called service staff) at gogos were not taken out often and were alot less jaded but as cute as the dancers.[/QUOTE]Very true on the service staff. They're not required to go out with customers, so they have to somewhat like you to agree to be bar fined. And at a lower rate too.
I am an American who lives and works in Japan, and usually make 2 or 3 trips to Thailand a year during my Winter, Spring, and Summer Breaks (I am a teacher, long vacations are a bonus). Over the past few years I have begun spending the month of August in Pattaya, and I love it.
First, fewer customers mean the girls are hungry for customers and you can usually bargain for a better deal. Walking Street Go-Go Girls that demand 3000 baht LT during New Years or April are suddenly open to 2000 baht quite easily.
Also, hotels are MUCH cheaper. For me, I always stay at the Pattaya Bay Resort, it is a great place, and VERY girl friendly. Never a problem with bring back 2 or more girls, and never a joiner fee. If you are into ladyboys or gay, I have noticed that the staff is friendly to guys bringing the, back as well. I will be there 37 days this August break, and they gave me a rate of 25, 000 baht for the whole stay, which is less than 5000 baht a week for a standard room, giving me more money for girls.
As for the attitude of some bars and girls towards Indians and Arabs, I am sad to report I have heard first hand from the girls that they refuse to go with them. I am an American of Italian descent, and one girl didn't want to go with me at first last summer because she thought I was Arab. At the time I had a full beard, so she assumed I was until her friend said I was American. Back in the room, she asked to see my passport because she didn't really believe me. Odd to see such attitudes, but since I live in Japan I am more than used to it. Here, if you are not Japanese, the best places won't let you in the door.
But you will not have trouble finding girls. Soi 6 and Walking Street have lots of girls, and fewer customers means you get more personal service. Beach Road not as crowded, but still some diamonds in the rough there. Also, many bars seem to have longer happy hours to try to get the customers that are there in the door.
[QUOTE=Vikalp; 1164622]Hello, All. 2. Would it be difficult to access girls in the low season period?
3. The weather being projected is hot and rainy (couple of hours a day). Can this seriously affect the plans. (We're 3-4 guys planning a stay just for the sake of mongering)
Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]I if it rains, well, the best option is to stay in bed and in Thailand you will never be alone in bed if you do not want to.
So nice to be in bed with a beauty during a tropical thunderstsorm (outside) so do not worry (much) about the weather, LOL
[QUOTE=Monkey1818;1164939]Very true on the service staff. They're not required to go out with customers, so they have to somewhat like you to agree to be bar fined. And at a lower rate too.[/QUOTE]At Misty's and Baby Dolls on Soi 15 the BF for service girls during the Christmas break was more than for dancers. Seems they are short of staff during this busiest period.
[QUOTE=Big Larry;1164890]Actually I have just come back from Phils and I'd say 50% plus of the mongers there are Americans, I think it's a combination of the distance and the thought of an exotic language that keeps the nos of Americans in Thailand down to say 10% of the total? Most Americans are OK with English and familiar with Spanish but many who have not travelled extensively are wary of countries speaking non European languages.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. While there are considerable numbers of Americans working for NGOs, schools (teaching english) , multinational or US based companies with offices in Thailand. You will not see as many Americans mongering / vacationing in Thailand as you will in countries where english where english is more common / widespread (like the Philippines, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Indonesia,). The exception in Thailand is when an entire Navy battle fleet stops in Phuket (thousands of American guys in a week but well behaved). Most of the Americans I met while in Thailand were non mongers / vacationers. They were workers (NGOs, teachers, multinational or US based companies) , in the military. Also met a few who were backpackers, eco / environmental nut jobs. Go figure.
The good thing about the US is that more and a more Americans who travel today. Are actually 1st or 2nd generation immigrants from other countries / nations themselves. And they still speak thair first / parents language (Chinese, Spanish, Thai, Hindu, Laotian, Cambodian, Korean, Tagalong, etc.). There very comfortable with their original parents heritage and embrace travelling to SE Asia. You really see it places like San Francisco, Dallas, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, and NYC of course. However many of these same immigrants who move to or grow up in the US become totally brain washed. Although they are indian asian, black, or brown on the outside. But intentionally choose to embrace all things anglo mentally and psychologically. It's like they literally try to become Anglo-saxon. Especially the Asians. Despite what they see in the mirror, and their actual heritage. Amazing.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1164074]Easy. Non-working girls generally do not stand and loiter on Beach Road. If you look a woman in her eyes and she smiles back at you approvingly, you're pretty much assured that she is available.
You can also stop and make small talk with the women. I do this a lot while taking photos. Usually, they will say "I go with you," at some point in the conversation.
However, that does not mean every woman on BR is in the "game." I've had women friends, (albeit working girls in clubs) , tell me they've been approached and propositioned. These girls like to go down to the beach and eat som tam in the daytime (and they don't like to be propositioned). [/QUOTE]Thank FT.
The girl in your pic is HOT. I would certaily part with a few notes for a bite of that!
I will certainly try Beach Road on my upcoming trip. However I don't want to take these girls back to my hotel. There is the obvious security risk and secondly, I don't really want to have to check-in 3-4 different girls into my hotel everyday!
I'm sure there are plenty of short time rooms in Pattaya, but are there any along Beach Road?
[QUOTE=Vikalp; 1164644]Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.
I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days. [/QUOTE]Hi Vikalp,
Don't worry too much about. I'm of Indian origin, and have spent many happy days in BKK and Patts.
Never really had any issue with racism. Maybe the odd look or comment here and there, but nothing you wouldn't get in my local town centre in the UK on a Saturday night.
It's simple. Be friendly, presentable and most of all generous. Bar girls are just like any other any other walk of life, most good, some bad.
I once had a girl, who having rode me like a bull, decided to confide in me she didn't go with Indians but had made an exception for me. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
She then left in the morning, because she was going to see 'Buddha'. I couldn't be bothered to point out the irony.
Have a good trip and enjoy yourself.
I'm going in 2 months time, anyone want to meet over a beer? What am in expected to pay not for shortime / longtime when getting a girl from a go-go bar.
I've not been in 5 years which in Pattaya time is a lifetime I imagine?
How much spending money do you think I need bearing in mind I'm going from the UK.
[QUOTE=Vikalp; 1164644]Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.
I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days. [/QUOTE]I am Indian and was in Pattaya this past Feb. And did not have any problem at all. I took girls from a gogo bar, a night club and even walking street without any issue. Just be normal, smile and talk to them. 2 of the girls asked me that Indians are black how come you have light skin. So maybe they don't have a problem with Indians as such but with anyone with darker skin color.
So I would say go there have fun and don't worry about it. When you get tired of walking around, go to one of those foot massage shops and get a foot massage. Those ladies have magic in their hands.
[QUOTE=Siam Dreamer;1165010]Although they are indian asian, black, or brown on the outside. But intentionally choose to embrace all things anglo mentally and psychologically. It's like they literally try to become Anglo-saxon. Especially the Asians. Despite what they see in the mirror, and their actual heritage. Amazing.[/QUOTE]Regarding your point. I am Indian and lived in USA for 10 years. Most Asian immigrants work hard and try to give their children a upper middle class life and these kids growing up tend to mix with whites keeping in their socioeconomic group and therefore grow up to be like them. Its more of a subconscious choice than a conscious decision.
[QUOTE=Chris H; 1164733]Thats funny, but so true. It may be a little harder for them to get to Asia though.
Chris H[/QUOTE]I wouldn't worry for now about the The Americans who fucked things up in places such as the Dominican Republic because of the expense of the airfare as well as 20+ hours on a plane would discourage them. Thats why they go to the DR less than 4 to 6 hours depending where you are from to travel and airfare about $400 give or take maybe $200.
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1164566]OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern America[/QUOTE]I think we are already aware of this and heading to Thailand instead of Brazil as the value for money factor kicks in.
[QUOTE=Vikalp; 1164644]Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.
I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days. [/QUOTE]Lets maybe reverse the question. How do Indians treat Pattaya? Answering this question might provide the answer as to how and why Indians get treated in Thailand.
Don't rent a Jet Ski.
[QUOTE=Member #1762;
As for the attitude of some bars and girls towards Indians and Arabs, I am sad to report I have heard first hand from the girls that they refuse to go with them. Quote
Indians and arabs are perceived in a totally different way by Thais in general. The reason WG shun arabs is by the reputation these people earned themselves. If many treat their own women without consideration, they treat WG like shit, they don't take a no for no and only desperate girls in urgent need for customers take a chance. It has much less to do with racism then awarness of their dignity and safety.
LP
[QUOTE=FreakFunk; 1165107]I'm going in 2 months time, anyone want to meet over a beer? What am in expected to pay not for shortime / longtime when getting a girl from a go-go bar.
I've not been in 5 years which in Pattaya time is a lifetime I imagine?
How much spending money do you think I need bearing in mind I'm going from the UK. [/QUOTE]Everything pretty much the same. 5 years ago from now rate wise. Sure there's new shops and restaurants etc. But the main thing I see different 5 years ago from now is the amount of Russian tourists in Pattaya now.
[QUOTE=Vikalp; 1164644]Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.
I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days. [/QUOTE]At the end it all matters how good you look and well behaved you are. I am an young Indian in proper shape and have never had problems getting laid with a WG of my choice surely unless she asks for a ridiculous price. I treat the girl well and have never had a problem with leading her back to my place. Although because from a country of 1 Billion you can't speak for all some of fellow country men surely have tarnished the image of whole community due to their attitude towards WGs and their cheap ways. I have heard stories which have even disgusted me with one guy taking a girl and having 4 friends in Rooms ready to pound her as well!
After all for a WG its not always about money and she has the choice to say NO. It depends on your persona to charm her to go with you and obviously negotiate the price. Be fair and get royal treatment.
As for rainy season, pussy never goes out of business be it raining or snowing unless you want to pick from street where surely then choices are limited as no one wants to get drenched!
Happy Mongering,
HL
I don't think what you are saying is right. The Arabs have their own colony in south Pattatya. Most Thai ladies want the Arabs because they pay too much. Of course most Thai ladies prefer Farangs because they eventually marry them but the Arabs are the second favourte. But it is the Indians that they fear most. First of all, the Indians come to Pattaya not enjoy but to look for work. Most of them work illegally, fuck Thai ladies free and enjoy the cheapest Thai food. For this reason, when a coloured man goes to the bar, the first question a Thai lady asks: 'where you from'. Furthermore, when an Indian man takes a Thai lady to his hotel, there are his friends waiting for her. This is true; Indians humiliate Thai ladies. I saw them sharing one lady with five men in the hotel I stayed. Only Indians who work in Dubai or other Gulf states really enjoy themseves but those coming from Madras or Calcutta, plan to find work in this small town. Shame on them.
[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1165410][QUOTE=Member #1762;
As for the attitude of some bars and girls towards Indians and Arabs, I am sad to report I have heard first hand from the girls that they refuse to go with them. Quote.
Indians and arabs are perceived in a totally different way by Thais in general. The reason WG shun arabs is by the reputation these people earned themselves. If many treat their own women without consideration, they treat WG like shit, they don't take a no for no and only desperate girls in urgent need for customers take a chance. It has much less to do with racism then awarness of their dignity and safety.
LP[/QUOTE]
What are the rates for HJ, BJ and FS at the massage places on Soi Honey?
[QUOTE=GregLondon;1164566]OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern America[/QUOTE]Interesting perspective considering that Pattaya and Angeles City both started specifically to service Americans.
[QUOTE=Lone Punter; 1165410]
[QUOTE=Member #1762;
As for the attitude of some bars and girls towards Indians and Arabs, I am sad to report I have heard first hand from the girls that they refuse to go with them. Quote.
Indians and arabs are perceived in a totally different way by Thais in general. The reason WG shun arabs is by the reputation these people earned themselves. If many treat their own women without consideration, they treat WG like shit, they don't take a no for no and only desperate girls in urgent need for customers take a chance. It has much less to do with racism then awarness of their dignity and safety.
LP[/QUOTE]To Lone punter,
I have girl tell me arab treat them like shit but they are big spender and most girl in Pattaya don't like to go with Indian, they told me they are smelly and cheap want everything for free the cheaper bastard in the world.
Fast eddi 48
Thanks to you all guys.
I hope things won't be that bad when I reach there and more importantly I hope all the girls I go out with form a better opinion of Indians. Really looking forward to all the mongering in Patt.
[QUOTE=Richmond72;1165957]Interesting perspective considering that Pattaya and Angeles City both started specifically to service Americans.[/QUOTE]There is plenty of downside potential for Thailand. Indonesia and Cambodia are catching up, without the benefit
Of a currency that is 20% more expensive nowadays. And none of this crap barfine after midnight nonsense.
Some of us like to be in bed before 10 with company not suffering from soggy seconds.
I know that the 'foreign' ownership of bars (holding co's) where about 40% (or more) of the punters fees support a western income has not helped. I feel sorry for the 6's and below who do not get a man each night, as 'fixing' prices really means more money to the pretties, why the ordinaries can't discount the bar fine, and do it tough during the lows. Or get stuck with Dalit ,Parraih, Harijans and sandpit nationalities.
But It is also true Thai owned bar are even worse and harder on the girls, more greedy and more sneaky with drink prices. And key money takes the farang bar owners, so they really end up bleeding tea money in a viscous circle.
I really miss the 400 bt 'all in' non-weekend / PHol parlors in Hat Yai. Which travel restrictions make it a no go zone. But it says volumes about Pattaya being about plenty expensive, and the rising barfines needed to grease palms. Like the last election, prices halved overnight when airport scares kept the 'major hotel foyer' gutless freespending tourists away.
[QUOTE=Richmond72;1165957]Interesting perspective considering that Pattaya and Angeles City both started specifically to service Americans.[/QUOTE]Good Lookn Richmond,
And just to clear up some Myths, we AMERICANS didn't mess anything up in S. Or C. America, economics did.
And here's another " rocket to put in your pocket ". Theirs going to be a big migration coming from RIO soon, because I'm telling EVERYBODY! Either roll with us or get rolled over. Makes no difference to me.
I have been checking the weather forecast for Pattaya the last weeks and it seems to be raining a lot. How many hours per day is it raining on average at the moment? And how many sun hours are there in between?
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1165836]What are the rates for HJ, BJ and FS at the massage places on Soi Honey?[/QUOTE]It's been 2 years or so since I've dabbled in that soi, but I always found that I could bargain fairly easily. Cheapest I got was 500 for FS plus 200 for the massage plus another 150 to the mamasan for a kickback. Most I paid was 1000 for FS but that's really overpaying I think. Most will accept 800 for FS. The girl I fucked for 500 was a gem. Only 18 and beautiful. Doubt she's there anymore, though.
[QUOTE=Mangofan;1166161]It's been 2 years or so since I've dabbled in that soi, but I always found that I could bargain fairly easily. Cheapest I got was 500 for FS plus 200 for the massage plus another 150 to the mamasan for a kickback. Most I paid was 1000 for FS but that's really overpaying I think. Most will accept 800 for FS. The girl I fucked for 500 was a gem. Only 18 and beautiful. Doubt she's there anymore, though.[/QUOTE]Usually I pay 300 baht for a HJ and 500 baht for BJ. Never go for boom boom. I always remember one young lady with a big smile asking me after I turned over " What you like, You want boom boom?" I was laughing for a few minutes.
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1166145]Good Lookn Richmond,
And just to clear up some Myths, we AMERICANS didn't mess anything up in S. Or C. America, economics did.
And here's another " rocket to put in your pocket ". Theirs going to be a big migration coming from RIO soon, because I'm telling EVERYBODY! Either roll with us or get rolled over. Makes no difference to me. [/QUOTE]Be careful in South Pattaya Yank. Many Muslim Arabs out to get you guys. I would stick to A. C. If I were you.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1166223]Be careful in South Pattaya Yank. Many Muslim Arabs out to get you guys. I would stick to A. C. If I were you.[/QUOTE]I'm a Soldier son,
We don't run from Threats, we Neutralize Threats!
Check our track record before you start running your mouth!
I can Care Less What you Want! I ain't there for you!
[QUOTE=Starchildxxx; 1166265]I'm a Soldier son,
We don't run from Threats, we Neutralize Threats! [/QUOTE]Well said Starchildxxx. It reminds me of 50 Cent's Lyrics (Rider). Excerpts here:
I done told you boy I'm a soldier boy.
I got no choice but to be a rider.
I approach you boy with the toaster boy.
Hit you point blank range and fire.
I ain't tryin to hear sh*t I'm supposed to be rich.
Mother f*ckers gettin with my bread.
Then I'm 'gon load my sh*t then count my sh*t.
N*gger trip I'll go for your head!
The only real advantage in Angeles is they speak reasonably well English and their is plenty of Aussie mates there to have some good fun.
Heading out for some beers now. More at a later point. Jackyboy[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Everyone has their preference, and to me, you can't even compare Angeles and Pattaya. Pattaya is better in almost every respect. And I noticed you used the word I always use to describe Angeles. But I use it to refer to Manila and most of the Phils."a sh$&thole!"
[QUOTE=Siam Dreamer; 1166267]Well said Starchildxxx. It reminds me of 50 Cent's Lyrics (Rider). Excerpts here:
I done told you boy I'm a soldier boy.
I got no choice but to be a rider.
I approach you boy with the toaster boy.
Hit you point blank range and fire.
I ain't tryin to hear sh*t I'm supposed to be rich.
Mother f*ckers gettin with my bread.
Then I'm 'gon load my sh*t then count my sh*t.
N*gger trip I'll go for your head! [/QUOTE]DAMN! Makes me proud to be an American!
Guess they'll think twice about bashing us!
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1166150]I have been checking the weather forecast for Pattaya the last weeks and it seems to be raining a lot. How many hours per day is it raining on average at the moment? And how many sun hours are there in between?[/QUOTE]It's hotter than a god damned blast furnace here now; both day and night.
I wish it would rain a lot more, but the squalls are usually short.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1166339]It's hotter than a god damned blast furnace here now; both day and night. I wish it would rain a lot more, but the squalls are usually short.[/QUOTE]I think you are missing the nice late Spring weather normally found in your neck of the woods.
I was in Pattaya yesterday, and you're right, it was very hot in the afternoon. Good time to snooze a bit. The evening wasn't too bad. Had a nice meal outside and ventured over to Soi LK Metro to catch my taxi back to Bangkok. It was hoppin' there with the new go-go bars and many ladies awaitin' in the beer bars.
I didn't didn't see much of the talent "spec" that I know you prefer, though.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1166339]It's hotter than a god damned blast furnace here now; both day and night.
I wish it would rain a lot more, but the squalls are usually short. [/QUOTE]Daddy07,
Come on Daddy07, you got to be kidding? HOT it is NOT, beautiful weather here day and night and don't even need A / C at night. Don't let the rain or suppose heat or not stop you from coming. He's only joking!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1166434]Daddy07,
Come on Daddy07, you got to be kidding? HOT it is NOT, beautiful weather here day and night and don't even need A / C at night. Don't let the rain or suppose heat or not stop you from coming. He's only joking!
LBM[/QUOTE]Yeah, but you're used to living in Hell, before you moved to Pattaya, my friend.
Pardon me while I go turn on the A/C. :)
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1166339]It's hotter than a god damned blast furnace here now; both day and night.
I wish it would rain a lot more, but the squalls are usually short. [/QUOTE]Have to agree. I was in Pattaya about 3 weeks ago and it was f'ing hot! But it didn't stop me from having a great time.
Beaverhunter
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1166318]DAMN! Makes me proud to be an American!
Guess they'll think twice about bashing us! [/QUOTE]And that's WHATTSUP!
Bulletproof love. S. Dreamer
A few reasons there won't be a significant increase of American mongers in LOS:
1. Poor state of the US economy. Can't afford to come.
2. Depreciation of the dollar. Makes everything more expensive for Joe monger. Can't afford to come.
3. Relatively expensive flights. Can't afford to come.
4. Long flights. More convenient altrenatives a lot closer to home
[QUOTE=Bun Biter; 1166581]A few reasons there won't be a significant increase of American mongers in LOS:
Are you kidding me? Most mongering f the scene of SE Asian was started by GIs back in the 'Nam era. Regardless of the economy, Americans are the number one when it comes to traveling. And most of us work overseas so its easy to take a hop to Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong and etc.
Have you been in Pattaya when the Star and Stripes are in town, its fucking madness. I tried to actually stay out of Thailand during that time.
Lastly our economy is bad because we keep bailing you mofos out. 555.
Mal
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1166435]Yeah, but you're used to living in Hell, before you moved to Pattaya, my friend.
Pardon me while I go turn on the A / C. . [/QUOTE]Daddy07,
You might be right? I'm somewhat of a sadist I guess? I guess you living on the 35th floor of your condo puts you closer to heaven? If U-turn on the A / C you weren't be able to enjoy the fresh air from your balconey of 180 degree seaview?
Give Mickey my best?
LBM
[QUOTE=Bun Biter; 1166581]A few reasons there won't be a significant increase of American mongers in LOS:
1. Poor state of the US economy. Can't afford to come.
2. Depreciation of the dollar. Makes everything more expensive for Joe monger. Can't afford to come.
3. Relatively expensive flights. Can't afford to come.
4. Long flights. More convenient altrenatives a lot closer to home[/QUOTE]To Bun
All the poor American are going to Tijuana Mexico south of the border to bang ugly SW for 20 USD, I still go to Thailand twice a year to cash in the Gold that I purchase at Bangkok chinatown 10 yr ago.
Fast Eddie 48
Stakeout, I've been in Pattaya for 3 days. It's rained for about 20 minutes each day. Rain hasn't been a problem.
There is a gogo bar in Walking street called Happy which has 2-3 dancers who are best described as coyotes. Their dance routine is more coreographed than the others', and they have props and body paint.
I have seen these girls accept lady drinks but I have never seen them being barfined. What is the reason for this? Is their asking price for ST and LT very high? Or aren't they barfine-able?
[QUOTE=Mauldid; 1166603]Are you kidding me? Most mongering f the scene of SE Asian was started by GIs back in the 'Nam era. Regardless of the economy, Americans are the number one when it comes to traveling. And most of us work overseas so its easy to take a hop to Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong and etc.
Have you been in Pattaya when the Star and Stripes are in town, its fucking madness. I tried to actually stay out of Thailand during that time.
Lastly our economy is bad because we keep bailing you mofos out. 555.
Mal[/QUOTE]Is anyone disputing that the SE Asian mongering scene was largely started by GIs back in the '60s? No.
Now your next claim is news to me: "Americans are the number one when it comes to traveling." WTF? Since when?
Now this I don't understand: "And most of us work overseas so its easy to take a hop to Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong and etc." Who exactly are you refering to? Asia based expat Americans, or your average Joe monger from Cincinatti, Duluth or Milwaukee?
Now to your question: yes, I had the good fortune to be in Pattaya once when the place was full of US Navy sailors. For the most part they behaved themselves well and there was very little, if any, fuss. You should try it some time. Yeah, so every once in a while (once or twice a year) the Navy boys hit Pattaya. So what. This doesn't mean that there will be signifacantly more mongers making the trip all the way from the States for a week or two of mongering.
And now to your last claim: "Lastly our economy is bad because we keep bailing you mofos out." Who EXACTLY is "you mofos"? Who are these "you mofos" you are refering to? Please enlighten us.
The people that I had in mind when I posted my four reasons why we won't see significantly more Americans were average Joe monger. You know, our brothers from Cincinatti, Duluth and Milwaukee.
[QUOTE=Bun Biter; 1166875]Is anyone disputing that the SE Asian mongering scene was largely started by GIs back in the '60s? No.
Bun,
If you are talking about Joe Schmo from back water US than you right. You didn't specify that.
Yes I was talking about expats living overseas (Europe and Asia) traveling to Thailand. Also I have been there during Cobra Gold several times and decided its not the best time for me to be in Pattaya. Maybe we are the number travelers but we are the number spenders when it comes to traveling.
And finally,"you mofos" are the countries that the USA helped out after internal conflicts, wars and natural disasters have decimated their economy and way of life.
Don't hate 555
[QUOTE=lastlap;1166208]Usually I pay 300 baht for a HJ and 500 baht for BJ. Never go for boom boom. I always remember one young lady with a big smile asking me after I turned over " What you like, You want boom boom?" I was laughing for a few minutes.[/QUOTE]Why never go for boom boom?
I'm a American but I recently saw a article relating to Americans and their travel. It was stated something like 10% of Americans actually have a Passport? After living here for a number of years and meeting different people from around the world and listening to their stories I might tend to agree with that number. I have found although others are no different that us they tend to travel more abroad for work and holidays and more open minded to other cultures because of that. I have travel throughout the USA and found that many people particularly working in government seem to have no idea what is going on outside of the world.
A few years ago I was at the USA Embassy I was in a interview with one of their young reps, How long she had been living in Thailand I have no idea. But she was basically telling me I was a liar although I had a letter from her boss in the USA backing up my contention. Not wanting to be rude I told her you might want to go back to our country or pay more attention as to what is going on back home. This was before Obama and before the financial meltdown!
I have never had any problems with any soldiers in Pattaya, I have met many and the majority are good kids and guys and are blowing off steam. It is no different than any individual that has worked his ass off all year and come for a holiday to blow off and clean their pipes for a few days or weeks. No culture or race has a lock on being angels or the devil?
To answer the question, As a American the Mofos he is talking about in general are the countries in the MiddleEast that are given money to keep peace each year without any accountibility. (I don't need to name every country) Entitlement institution like the U. N. NATO, that we pay the highest but get very little in return. Recently we want to forgive 1 billion to a country, we forgave 50 billion to Pakistan so that we can flight over their country to get to Iraq? We give and forgive? And continue to give not loan them 20 billion to a country that their people didn't want because they hate us. I found out we even gave China 500, 000 for them to study the behavior of P4P, you believe that? But reality is this as Americans our representatiive want to be number one and can't except anything less so we pay the world to be our friends when so many aren't. Yes our country is or was number #1 but our dollar is the shits for many reasons?
When you look at the stats you will see when it comes to travel, Americans majority travel within their own country and go camping etc. When you speak to govenment workers that handle your pension etc. And you tell them you live in Thailand, they have no idea what it looks like outside their own little box?
These opinions do not support any particular person and their discussion its just my opinion on a situation you or I could ever discuss with a satisfactory ending.
LBM
Having fun in Pattaya with plenty of available, sexy talent, but tons of Indians & Arabs.
A warning to all. 2 nights ago a fellow monger I met on the pool in Diana-Estate, called me 3 am on the internal phone of the Estate, interrupting some good action with my sexy Lek. He asked me to come over to his privately rented room immediately, as he felt seriously ill and dizzy. I headed over to his room and soon suspected what must have happened, as Diana-Oasis has very good security warnings in all their studios and I actually had read all of it.
The very strange and nervous behavior of the about 30 yr. Old, heavily tattooed girl he had in the room, raised my suspicions immediately. My friend was down on the sofa, looked seriously out of it and could hardly speak. When I asked the girl if they had drunk too much or taken any pills, she got very evasive first and then openly aggressive and just walked out of the room. At this point I did not add up all the facts and was more concerned about the well-being of my friend, so when security called, I told them they could let the girl go as my friend was sick.
After a few more minutes I finally got out of him, that they had been drinking in a small karaoke place nearby and the girl had offered him some "Herbal Thai Whisky" for extra power, just before they had left to go back to the room.
Arriving at his room he soon started feeling very drunk, dizzy and tired.
As I got very concerned, I called the manager of Diana-Oasis, who is very nice and she came soon with a friend of the owner. In the meantime my friend had totally passed out. The guy Kh. Meow brought, was aware of the situation and immediately told me, my friend most probably had been drugged to be robbed. He checked my friends vitals and stayed with me in the room all night to keep an eye on him, in case we needed to get him to the hospital.
He explained me that every year there was cases of naive mongers, mostly newcomers, who had been drugged and after a case with one of their customers, an elderly American a couple years back, that got totally cleaned out the second day of his retirement to Thailand, they had posted very clear warnings in all studios and even made it a point to explain new customers, not familiar with Pattaya, some of the dangers. Apparently there is some veterinary knock-out drops these girls use, which leave the victim out of it and with memory laps for up to a full day. Many of the ladies come down from Bangkok and / or disappear for a while after a successful rip-off.
It feels definitely much more scary when you experience this first hand and not just read about it in the Pattaya press.
I was glad for the help I got in the middle of the night from the people of Oasis, which obviously care about their guest and seem to have a lot of experience, according to the stories we exchanged during that night.
So what to learn: NEVER accept any drinks, brought or bought by a girl. I was told, usually the trick is to get a last minute drink from a nearby 7/11, just before entering the room, as the drops can take affect very fast.
By the way, my friend was slowly getting back on his feed only the next evening and could hardly remember anything. Thanks to his last minute phone call, his valuables are still with him. Thanks for the great help to Meow and her people. You are a pearl.
I enjoy a nice soapy, body massage once in a while. Just tried out the place that used to be Honey-Inn hotel. No more need to go all the way to the Big C / North Pattaya area and some of the older places. This place is brand new and they had some hot chicks, definitely will be back.
[url]http://www.honeyinnpattaya.com/gallaery.htm[/url]
A bonus, there was no Indians and Arabs. JB.
[QUOTE=Jackyboy; 1167021]Having fun in Pattaya with plenty of available, sexy talent, but tons of Indians & Arabs.
A warning to all. 2 nights ago a fellow monger I met on the pool in Diana-Estate, called me 3 am on the internal phone of the Estate, interrupting some good action with my sexy Lek. He asked me to come over to his privately rented room immediately, as he felt seriously ill and dizzy. I headed over to his room and soon suspected what must have happened, as Diana-Oasis has very good security warnings in all their studios and I actually had read all of it.
The very strange and nervous behavior of the about 30 yr. Old, heavily tattooed girl he had in the room, raised my suspicions immediately. My friend was down on the sofa, looked seriously out of it and could hardly speak. When I asked the girl if they had drunk too much or taken any pills, she got very evasive first and then openly aggressive and just walked out of the room. At this point I did not add up all the facts and was more concerned about the well-being of my friend, so when security called, I told them they could let the girl go as my friend was sick.
After a few more minutes I finally got out of him, that they had been drinking in a small karaoke place nearby and the girl had offered him some "Herbal Thai Whisky" for extra power, just before they had left to go back to the room.
Arriving at his room he soon started feeling very drunk, dizzy and tired.
As I got very concerned, I called the manager of Diana-Oasis, who is very nice and she came soon with a friend of the owner. In the meantime my friend had totally passed out. The guy Kh. Meow brought, was aware of the situation and immediately told me, my friend most probably had been drugged to be robbed. He checked my friends vitals and stayed with me in the room all night to keep an eye on him, in case we needed to get him to the hospital.
He explained me that every year there was cases of naive mongers, mostly newcomers, who had been drugged and after a case with one of their customers, an elderly American a couple years back, that got totally cleaned out the second day of his retirement to Thailand, they had posted very clear warnings in all studios and even made it a point to explain new customers, not familiar with Pattaya, some of the dangers. Apparently there is some veterinary knock-out drops these girls use, which leave the victim out of it and with memory laps for up to a full day. Many of the ladies come down from Bangkok and / or disappear for a while after a successful rip-off.
It feels definitely much more scary when you experience this first hand and not just read about it in the Pattaya press.
I was glad for the help I got in the middle of the night from the people of Oasis, which obviously care about their guest and seem to have a lot of experience, according to the stories we exchanged during that night.
So what to learn: NEVER accept any drinks, brought or bought by a girl. I was told, usually the trick is to get a last minute drink from a nearby 7/11, just before entering the room, as the drops can take affect very fast.
By the way, my friend was slowly getting back on his feed only the next evening and could hardly remember anything. Thanks to his last minute phone call, his valuables are still with him. Thanks for the great help to Meow and her people. You are a pearl. [/QUOTE][url]Http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/06/17/iranian-found-drugged-in-pattaya-culprit-arrested/[/url]
[url]http://www.google.co.th/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=drugged[/url]+in+Pattaya
If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?
I am taking my girlfriend to Pattaya in a couple of months (yeah yeah, I know it is like taking food to a restaurant.) and she is up for pretty much anything exciting. Any suggestions out there on what could be a cool place to go to / activites etc that works for a couple? I know of all the standard stuff but would be really grateful for tips on stuff that is "out of the ordinary".
We have done a fair amount of swinging in Europe and she has already said she will get a couple of girls for us to have fun with.
Anything else? Excellent shows, special clubs? Any places that caters for women (also)? Any swinging clubs?
Anders
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1167127]If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?[/QUOTE]H&772; &299; kon.
&3627; &3637; &3650; &3585; &3609;
Have fun! JB.
[QUOTE=Jackyboy; 1167219]H&772; &299; kon.
&3627; &3637; &3650; &3585; &3609;
Have fun! JB. [/QUOTE]How do I decipher this?
What decent Korean BBQ restaurants are there in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Anders Svensson; 1167131]I am taking my girlfriend to Pattaya in a couple of months (yeah yeah, I know it is like taking food to a restaurant.) and she is up for pretty much anything exciting. Any suggestions out there on what could be a cool place to go to / activites etc that works for a couple? I know of all the standard stuff but would be really grateful for tips on stuff that is "out of the ordinary".
We have done a fair amount of swinging in Europe and she has already said she will get a couple of girls for us to have fun with.
Anything else? Excellent shows, special clubs? Any places that caters for women (also)? Any swinging clubs?
Anders[/QUOTE]DEVIL'S DEN! They are very couples friendly with all girls being genuinely bisexual and trained to work in teams of two you should have a blast. If you haven't heard about this place, I highly recommend checking out devilsdenpattaya. Com. I've recieved the most enthusiastic and reliable service there. It's like being a porn director and actor at the same time, minus the camera crew. They will do literally everything with you and your girl and this is the cleanest place I have ever seen in terms of the girls themselves. They are all regularly tested, have paperwork to prove it, shower you and themselves before and after sessions, use listerine excessively before and after sessions and are condom nazis. The Devil's Den satisfaction guarantee doesn't hurt either!
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1167261]DEVIL'S DEN! They are very couples friendly with all girls being genuinely bisexual and trained to work in teams of two you should have a blast. If you haven't heard about this place, I highly recommend checking out devilsdenpattaya. Com. I've recieved the most enthusiastic and reliable service there. It's like being a porn director and actor at the same time, minus the camera crew. They will do literally everything with you and your girl and this is the cleanest place I have ever seen in terms of the girls themselves. They are all regularly tested, have paperwork to prove it, shower you and themselves before and after sessions, use listerine excessively before and after sessions and are condom nazis. The Devil's Den satisfaction guarantee doesn't hurt either![/QUOTE]Sorry, didn't notice the 'out of the ordinary' part. In that case I would recommend. DEVILS DEN! How about a two hot bisexual thai beauties with a large purse filled with strap-ons and sex toys, a swing in every room and the infamous selection format! When you're ready the girls are brought in and stand on either side of a yellow line. Girls on the left all do anal, girl on the right don't. Things can get pretty extraordinary and kinky upstairs! The website has profile pics and descriptions of what girls will and won't do. Have fun!
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1167262]Sorry, didn't notice the 'out of the ordinary' part. In that case I would recommend. DEVILS DEN! How about a two hot bisexual thai beauties with a large purse filled with strap-ons and sex toys, a swing in every room and the infamous selection format! When you're ready the girls are brought in and stand on either side of a yellow line. Girls on the left all do anal, girl on the right don't. Things can get pretty extraordinary and kinky upstairs! The website has profile pics and descriptions of what girls will and won't do. Have fun![/QUOTE]Its the girls on the right side of the line (if you stand in front of them) that do all the 3 holes. Just to clarify.
Mike
[QUOTE=Jackyboy; 1167219]H&772; &299; kon.
&3627; &3637; &3650; &3585; &3609;
Have fun! JB. [/QUOTE]Sorry, This came out wrong by trying to post / paste phonetically. I will re-post after asking a shaved pussy later today.
[QUOTE=Jackyboy;1167367]Sorry, This came out wrong by trying to post / paste phonetically. I will re-post after asking a shaved pussy later today.[/QUOTE]Print this and show to mamasan or say or just do sign language: "Hi kon mei, kap?" The "Hi" ends high, the "kon" is short.
&3627; &3637; &3650; &3585; &3609; ?
I'm an American with a lot of overseas experience, though I do live in the states (but a newbie to the mongering aspect) , and I just want to chime in on this.
First of all, the whole "only 10% of Americans have passports" statement that various Europeans like to throw around and hold over our heads, as if it makes us somehow inferior as a society. That figure is almost certainly not correct in 2011 anyway.
Pre-9/11, Americans didn't need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico, the two nations we actually share a land-border with. Hence, a lot of people simply didn't need one.
Second, our country is roughly as big as Europe by itself. We have a lot of land, with distinctive climates and local cultures to visit without ever having to leave our country. So true, a lot of Americans don't travel internationally, because a guy from Buffalo, NY can get a similar experience by visiting the US Gulf Coast that someone from Finland can get by visiting the South of France. And it's about the same distance away. A guy living in Switzerland is a few hours drive away from a half dozen countries. A guy living in Kansas City is a 16 hour drive from the US border with anywhere.
With that said, there are certainly a lot of Americans, who maybe fall into the second category above, who are on their first overseas excursion and are naive about other countries and their cultures. I would say that these type of people are a lot more likely to be found in Western Europe or the Carribean though, than the Far East.
Lastly, what a lot of Europeans don't realize is that Americans sometimes think you're obnoxious when you visit our country too. Imagine that!
It's all good though. I don't understand why people from both sides of the pond get so nationalistic about it, either way. Probably has more than a little to do with liquid courage.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1167127]If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?[/QUOTE]Always difficult to transscribe the Thai words into English. Espspecially for me as a German.
I will try to approach.
Tinee mee poojing gon moi mai? (tini: mi: pu:ying go:rn moi mai?)
Not sure if it's totally correct Thai. But mamasan will know what you like, sure.
Maa Paa
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1167127]If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?[/QUOTE]The Thai word for pubic hair is "moi"
I would simply point to the lady and ask "Moi?"
This forum seems to be taking a distinctly anti Indian-Arab tone.
It astounds me how sex tourists can manage to garner a superiority complex.
To those Indians on this forum concerned about the possible racist behaviour of the Thai people, maybe it's not the bargirls, bar owners or club bouncers you should be worried about.
[QUOTE=Stl Danish; 1167388]I'm an American with a lot of overseas experience, though I do live in the states (but a newbie to the mongering aspect) , and I just want to chime in on this.
First of all, the whole "only 10% of Americans have passports" statement that various Europeans like to throw around and hold over our heads, as if it makes us somehow inferior as a society. That figure is almost certainly not correct in 2011 anyway.
Pre-9/11, Americans didn't need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico, the two nations we actually share a land-border with. Hence, a lot of people simply didn't need one.
Second, our country is roughly as big as Europe by itself. We have a lot of land, with distinctive climates and local cultures to visit without ever having to leave our country. So true, a lot of Americans don't travel internationally, because a guy from Buffalo, NY can get a similar experience by visiting the US Gulf Coast that someone from Finland can get by visiting the South of France. And it's about the same distance away. A guy living in Switzerland is a few hours drive away from a half dozen countries. A guy living in Kansas City is a 16 hour drive from the US border with anywhere.
With that said, there are certainly a lot of Americans, who maybe fall into the second category above, who are on their first overseas excursion and are naive about other countries and their cultures. I would say that these type of people are a lot more likely to be found in Western Europe or the Carribean though, than the Far East.
Lastly, what a lot of Europeans don't realize is that Americans sometimes think you're obnoxious when you visit our country too. Imagine that!
It's all good though. I don't understand why people from both sides of the pond get so nationalistic about it, either way. Probably has more than a little to do with liquid courage. [/QUOTE]S. D,
Not to drag on the conversation because I agree with much of your points except the following since I think you misunderstood what was written by me so I feel a response is necessary on those points.
Statement regarding the 10, if you noted I said I recently read a article regarding the percentage it didn't come from Europeans throwing it around while sitting around having a few cold one! Whether it is true or not isn't the point!
Also, your statement about a guy from N.Y. going to just the Gulf can get the same experience backup my contention that most American are ignorant as to what is going on outside the borders ( Canada/Mexico ) that is like saying a guy from Buffalo goes on a vacation to San Francisco Chinatown can get the same experience as someone actually going to Hong Kong?
You are correct regarding Canada and Mexico pre-9/11, travel. But whether one needs a passport for Canada or Mexico isn't the point the point is actually having one through application process was the point I was making. My own personal view is when traveling to Canada and Mexico it really doesn't count since as you noted the borders are shared. Going to Canada/Mexico is like going from S.F. to L.A. which is like not going on a vacation at all? My views in general regarding traveling is actually crossing a ocean to getting to the place. On a lighter note even after 9/11 you still don't need a passport. The number of illegal immigrants still coming into the USA from share borders also indicates you still don't need one?
LBM
[QUOTE=Stl Danish; 1167388]I'm an American with a lot of overseas experience, though I do live in the states (but a newbie to the mongering aspect) , and I just want to chime in on this.
First of all, the whole "only 10% of Americans have passports" statement that various Europeans like to throw around and hold over our heads, as if it makes us somehow inferior as a society. That figure is almost certainly not correct in 2011 anyway.
Pre-9/11, Americans didn't need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico, the two nations we actually share a land-border with. Hence, a lot of people simply didn't need one.
Second, our country is roughly as big as Europe by itself. We have a lot of land, with distinctive climates and local cultures to visit without ever having to leave our country. So true, a lot of Americans don't travel internationally, because a guy from Buffalo, NY can get a similar experience by visiting the US Gulf Coast that someone from Finland can get by visiting the South of France. And it's about the same distance away. A guy living in Switzerland is a few hours drive away from a half dozen countries. A guy living in Kansas City is a 16 hour drive from the US border with anywhere.
With that said, there are certainly a lot of Americans, who maybe fall into the second category above, who are on their first overseas excursion and are naive about other countries and their cultures. I would say that these type of people are a lot more likely to be found in Western Europe or the Carribean though, than the Far East.
Lastly, what a lot of Europeans don't realize is that Americans sometimes think you're obnoxious when you visit our country too. Imagine that!
It's all good though. I don't understand why people from both sides of the pond get so nationalistic about it, either way. Probably has more than a little to do with liquid courage. [/QUOTE]Thanks for saving us brits in the 2nd world war, we'd be speaking german if it wasn't for you US people.
[QUOTE=Sorokonozka; 1167426]The Thai word for pubic hair is "moi"
I would simply point to the lady and ask "Moi?"[/QUOTE]Cun is a better word.
[QUOTE=Iching;1167533]Thanks for saving us brits in the 2nd world war, we'd be speaking german if it wasn't for you US people.[/QUOTE]Your'e welcome and don't be obnoxious!
LBM
During the peak of the high season the price for ST with a gogo girl was 2 000 baht. LT seemed to be out of the question.
Now, during the low season, what is the normal price for ST and LT with gogo girl?
[QUOTE=Chachi420; 1167494]This forum seems to be taking a distinctly anti Indian-Arab tone.
It astounds me how sex tourists can manage to garner a superiority complex.
To those Indians on this forum concerned about the possible racist behaviour of the Thai people, maybe it's not the bargirls, bar owners or club bouncers you should be worried about. [/QUOTE]Dear friend,
I understand what you hint. However as per my experience there are many amazing people on this website who do not harness any indecent behavior against Indians and in fact have been very friendly towards giving suggestions, advice and opinions, sharing there experiences with us.
However, there are a few insecure guys out here who feel that being white is a sign of superiority. It is disgraceful but I would request you not to form any opinion of these morons as the majority of the people on this forum are very nice people helping others to learn from their experiences without any shade of racist emotion.
So don't lose heart on the comment of a person who does not have the capacity to live and comment under the limits of dignity.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Stl Danish; 1167388]I'm an American with a lot of overseas experience, though I do live in the states (but a newbie to the mongering aspect) , and I just want to chime in on this.
[/QUOTE]I think that the main issue is that, compared to' other nationals, american have less habit to' interact with other people, cultures.
As much as there Are substantial differences between a new yorker and a guy from Dallas or Denver or California, the basic american roots are the same.
You go to' Europe where there are two dozens of countries, a dozen languages. All with their history, past, culture.
This automatically broadens the people's mind.
A mere fact. Nothing to' do with losers or winners.
The type of media in the States also favours a lot the creation and diffusione of stereotypes.
I am european and I will never forget the question of a young kit: "do you have TV in your country?"
That wasin 1973: the man had already been on the moon. Still.
I don't want to take into politics but it is a fact the USA have made huge mistakes in their overseas military actions. Mainly due to the differential culture and not prepared to deal with other cultures.
Much easier for us Europeans.
In 5-7 hrs you can go through 2-3 different countries and languages!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1167632]You go to' Europe where there are two dozens of countries, a dozen languages.[/QUOTE]There are more like twenty dozen languages spoken in Europe, actually.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1167541]Cun is a better word.[/QUOTE]No it's not.
Moi is easy to pronounce, is not a euphemism, and is the correct word for pubic or genital hair.
So "no pubic hair" would be "mai moi", right?
How do you say "I want no pubic hair"?
[QUOTE=Sorokonozka; 1167650]No it's not.
Moi is easy to pronounce, is not a euphemism, and is the correct word for pubic or genital hair. [/QUOTE]Cun is easy to pronounce and is "not a euphemism." It is the proper word.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1167541]Cun is a better word.[/QUOTE]Do you mean "glon" (&3585; &3621; &3657; &3629; &3609;) = to shave? Or is it "cun" as in "bun" or "****"?
Moi (&3617; &3629; &3618;) = pubic hair.
Not the same word.
Not sure why, I'd rather go with "glon mai?" ("are you shaved?") rather than "mee moi mai?" ("do you have pubic hair?") , although both are correct.
Edit: stupid forum software, doesn't accept Thai characters.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1167647]There are more like twenty dozen languages spoken in Europe, actually.[/QUOTE]Was lazy to count them.
A quick check brought me to at least 15, then we can expand of course, but I think the concept was clear vs. USA where they english and spanish
[QUOTE=Sorokonozka; 1167650]No it's not.
Moi is easy to pronounce, is not a euphemism, and is the correct word for pubic or genital hair. [/QUOTE]I am quite sure that you are right.
Since I started to learn the basics of Thai language (1994) I have never heard or seen the word cun.
My basic knowledge doesn't cover all words. But moi will be the best choice.
Maa Paa
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1167714]........ Edit: stupid forum software, doesn't accept Thai characters.[/QUOTE]Let me try to copy some Thai characters: We are talking about. &3650; &3585; &3609; . Gohn.
I can paste the characters here. Not sure how it will come out when I'm going to add my report to the forum.
No, not working. Failed in the preview already, sorry.
Used Google translater, took a pic of the result and will attach it here.
Maa Paa
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1167224]What decent Korean BBQ restaurants are there in Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Try Central Festival mall, north side of I think 5th floor
Thanks to all you Thai speakers who helped me with my question on pubic hair. I have one more language question, if you can bear with me.
When receiving a HJ, I hate it when the girl stops at the moment I climax.
So how do I say "don't stop","keep going" or "continue" in Thai (whatever is the most appropriate in this situation)?
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1167851]Thanks to all you Thai speakers who helped me with my question on pubic hair. I have one more language question, if you can bear with me.
When receiving a HJ, I hate it when the girl stops at the moment I climax.
So how do I say "don't stop","keep going" or "continue" in Thai (whatever is the most appropriate in this situation)? [/QUOTE]Hm. Just "don't stop" should be something like "harm yud","mai dtong yud","mai dai yud" or "mai ao yud". (Here the letter "you" in "yud" is pronounced like the short "oo" in the word "good".
But you can also try to tell her: "go on". Then it would be something like "dtor" or "tum dtor". (Here the letter "you" in "tum" is pronounced like the short "o" in the word "cum".
Hope it will help you.
Maa Paa
[QUOTE=Maa Paa;1167856]But you can also try to tell her: "go on". Then it would be something like "dtor" or "tum dtor".[/QUOTE]Thanks. What sound does *"dt" represent?
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1167863]Thanks. What sound does *"dt" represent?[/QUOTE]Just as it is written here. A combined sound of "the" and "t".
"the" has a more soft sound,"t" a bit harder. Try the english word "door" but include the "t" in second position (dtoor).
Maa Paa
[QUOTE=Maa Paa; 1167865]Just as it is written here. A combined sound of "the" and "t".
"the" has a more soft sound,"t" a bit harder. Try the english word "door" but include the "t" in second position (dtoor).
Maa Paa[/QUOTE]Sorry for my wrong spelling, see it just now. It should be the was it is here in the quote: "the" and "t". Not "the" and "t".
Maa Paa
(Oh, good forum - but the software ...... I was quite sure that I wrote " t " and " d " - but it's coming out as "the" again. Sorry)
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1167632]I think that the main issue is that, compared to' other nationals, american have less habit to' interact with other people, cultures.
As much as there Are substantial differences between a new yorker and a guy from Dallas or Denver or California, the basic american roots are the same.
You go to' Europe where there are two dozens of countries, a dozen languages. All with their history, past, culture.
This automatically broadens the people's mind.
A mere fact. Nothing to' do with losers or winners.
The type of media in the States also favours a lot the creation and diffusione of stereotypes.
I am european and I will never forget the question of a young kit: "do you have TV in your country?"
That wasin 1973: the man had already been on the moon. Still.
I don't want to take into politics but it is a fact the USA have made huge mistakes in their overseas military actions. Mainly due to the differential culture and not prepared to deal with other cultures.
Much easier for us Europeans.
In 5-7 hrs you can go through 2-3 different countries and languages! [/QUOTE]You talk too much. Watch out for black vans around your house. No matter where you are.
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[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1167521]S. D,
Not to drag on the conversation because I agree with much of your points except the following since I think you misunderstood what was written by me so I feel a response is necessary on those points.
Statement regarding the 10, if you noted I said I recently read a article regarding the percentage it didn't come from Europeans throwing it around while sitting around having a few cold one! Whether it is true or not isn't the point!
Also, your statement about a guy from N. Y. Going to just the Gulf can get the same experience backup my contention that most American are ignorant as to what is going on outside the borders (Canada / Mexico) that is like saying a guy from Buffalo goes on a vacation to San Francisco Chinatown can get the same experience as someone actually going to Hong Kong?
You are correct regarding Canada and Mexico pre-9/11, travel. But whether one needs a passport for Canada or Mexico isn't the point the point is actually having one through application process was the point I was making. My own personal view is when traveling to Canada and Mexico it really doesn't count since as you noted the borders are shared. Going to Canada / Mexico is like going from S. F. To L. A. Which is like not going on a vacation at all? My views in general regarding traveling is actually crossing a ocean to getting to the place. On a lighter note even after 9/11 you still don't need a passport. The number of illegal immigrants still coming into the USA from share borders also indicates you still don't need one?
LBM[/QUOTE]LBM. True true, on the not needing a passport!
As far as that other statement about Canada / Mexico being like going from SF to LA.
Going to Mexico (real Mexico, not touristy-Cancun or whatever) is night and day from the United States, heh. Canada I think you can make that argument safely, if you're willing to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a few Canadians in the process. They're not very fond of the whole "51st state" concept, and if you watched the aftermath of the hockey playoffs last week you know what happens when you make them mad!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1167632]I think that the main issue is that, compared to' other nationals, american have less habit to' interact with other people, cultures.
As much as there Are substantial differences between a new yorker and a guy from Dallas or Denver or California, the basic american roots are the same.
You go to' Europe where there are two dozens of countries, a dozen languages. All with their history, past, culture.
This automatically broadens the people's mind.
A mere fact. Nothing to' do with losers or winners.
The type of media in the States also favours a lot the creation and diffusione of stereotypes.
I am european and I will never forget the question of a young kit: "do you have TV in your country?"
That wasin 1973: the man had already been on the moon. Still.
I don't want to take into politics but it is a fact the USA have made huge mistakes in their overseas military actions. Mainly due to the differential culture and not prepared to deal with other cultures.
Much easier for us Europeans.
In 5-7 hrs you can go through 2-3 different countries and languages! [/QUOTE]I don't think the US mistakes in military action have anything to do with "culture" per say. You could argue that as a result of these military actions, there is now a tension between Americans and Arab / Muslim countries, maybe that's what you're saying?
In a sense, Americans are more willing to accept other cultures since our own is such a "melting pot" of different places. Contrast this with say, Finland. Where 95% of the population comes from the same background.
The proximity of other countries Europeans is one factor to consider, but in my experience, Western European societies are not dramatically different from one another. Of course, there are differences, but when you compare (just to pick two) Denmark and Austria, there's less of a difference than comparing Canada to Vietnam.
Perhaps Europeans are just better international travelers, since it's more common there.
Who knows? Like everything else in life it's shades of gray.
You can get obnoxious people from any culture, whether it be Americans, Europeans, or anyplace else.
[QUOTE=Iching;1167533]Thanks for saving us brits in the 2nd world war, we'd be speaking german if it wasn't for you US people.[/QUOTE]Anytime man. My grandfather would be happy to know that he saved your grandmother from certain Deutsch.
[QUOTE=Stl Danish;1168168]I don't think the US mistakes in military action have anything to do with "culture" per say. You could argue that as a result of these military actions, there is now a tension between Americans and Arab / Muslim countries, maybe that's what you're saying? You can get obnoxious people from any culture, whether it be Americans, Europeans, or anyplace else.[/QUOTE]Not planning to extend the talks on cultural differences on Pattaya reports forum, but my main point on the differences have been exploited by you too so there is a common opinion.
On the more touchy subject of some "failure", I refer to the unawareness from the major part of the troops sent there of the environment (including cultural).
It opened a lot of wrong actions, rather than smoothing things.
Especially when interacting with the population (and military actions of recent years do have a lot to do with interaction with the locals).
I agree that US is huge different nationalities pot, but I am not so 100% sure about the real melting as.
A) the "immigrants" tend to carry on their cultural habits within their group.
Be) the "immigrants" do have to adapt (quickly) to the US rules to be able to stay there.
I am not criticizing either behaviour, but just observing.
We european are more used to travel to foreing countries (as they are also next door in many cases) and we experienced other cultures in their home ground.
The US people experience, for the most of the cases, other cultures not in the original and genuine homeground (see above point a).
Just think about how many grey areas there are in Europe nearby borders (France to Italy, to Germany. Etc) Italy to Austria, to Slovenia and so on and so on). These represent a sort of cultural enrichment (or exchange).
I am done now. As fully OT. .
[QUOTE=Stl Danish;1168174]Anytime man. My grandfather would be happy to know that he saved your grandmother from certain Deutsch.[/QUOTE]Anything wrong here with Germans or German language?
Maa Paa
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1168217]I agree that US is huge different nationalities pot, but I am not so 100% sure about the real melting as.
A) the "immigrants" tend to carry on their cultural habits within their group.
Be) the "immigrants" do have to adapt (quickly) to the US rules to be able to stay there.
I am not criticizing either behaviour, but just observing. [/QUOTE]The whole Melting Pot thing was just some late 18th century fairytale bullshit. These days the theory has been revamped and is taught with the country being compared to a Salad Bowl. In a Salad Bowl various distinct ingredients compose the overall dish. They do touch and interact, but do not blend together to form something that no longer leaves the orignal ingredients indistinguishable. For the most part when a salad is complete you can still pick out the cucumbers, tomatoes, and chesse and recognize it as such. In a melting pot everything is jumbled in and the finished product is something that totally different and the individual ingredients are not recognizable. The USA has never been such a thing.
[QUOTE=Maa Paa; 1167856]Hm. Just "don't stop" should be something like "harm yud","mai dtong yud","mai dai yud" or "mai ao yud". (Here the letter "you" in "yud" is pronounced like the short "oo" in the word "good".
But you can also try to tell her: "go on". Then it would be something like "dtor" or "tum dtor". (Here the letter "you" in "tum" is pronounced like the short "o" in the word "cum".
Hope it will help you.
Maa Paa[/QUOTE]"yar yoot" (yaa yut. Depends how you want to spell it) simply means "don't stop!". So that is the best one here.
"mai dtong yud" is okay but means "its not necessary to stop", the other subtle variations are not as good even though will be probably understood."harm yoot" is too formal and would be found on a traffic sign "stopping is forbidden"."mai dai yud" really means "I didn't stop" (or "didn't get to stop"). Past tense.
"dt" is described as an unaspirated (no puff of air)"t" sound as in the word "hotmail" where the "t" loses its trailing hiss of air, replaced by a brief stop of the sound, as there is not time to make that hiss sound before moving on to the next syllable. This makes it a bit similar to a "the" but missing the initial hum before main sound.
Yes, I am having formal Thai Language lessons. No, I will not mention my school. Search the internet.
[quote=maa paa; 1168276]anything wrong here with germans or german language?
maa paa[/quote]nothing at all. its not the language, its only the way the speaker uses it. i tend to hear much more loud and ugly speech from certain tourists from england, although obviously, some other languages i wouldn't understand at all. guess we just have to accept the english culture makes "fucking c*nts" common speech.
deutsch is purely a more difficult language to learn due to complex grammar. also, i still can't pronounce "sprichst du deutsch?" without a struggle. thai language is much easier than deutsch due to excessively simple thai grammar and few consonants in a row. keep learning thai. its worth it meet and have fun with thai girls that have very basic english or none.
be careful about picking up impolite thai words from bargirls. big danger! many thai words you hear, cannot be used safely. many farangs are thought to be very obnoxious because they so use many thai swear words. mostly they just don't know they have picked up very ugly ways to say something from bar girls.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1167127]If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?[/QUOTE]I BF a 20 year old that was completely bald, it was OK. I really don't know if I like bald or with hair. I think in my life the 20 year old and another were the only bald people I've been with.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1168306]The whole Melting Pot thing was just some late 18th century fairytale bullshit. These days the theory has been revamped and is taught with the country being compared to a Salad Bowl. In a Salad Bowl various distinct ingredients compose the overall dish. They do touch and interact, but do not blend together to form something that no longer leaves the orignal ingredients indistinguishable. For the most part when a salad is complete you can still pick out the cucumbers, tomatoes, and chesse and recognize it as such. In a melting pot everything is jumbled in and the finished product is something that totally different and the individual ingredients are not recognizable. The USA has never been such a thing.[/QUOTE]Makes a lot of sense and seems a good way to explain it.
Probably the first immigrant thoughts being in a melting pot as quite many nationalities arrived (unusual for other countries) , but was jast a salad bowl and continued like that
When you take it as a whole it is a 'salad' (= american) , but there is no real blending / melting of the ingredients (=different orginal nationalities) as you said.
Chapeau!
[QUOTE=Stl Danish; 1168164]LBM. True true, on the not needing a passport!
As far as that other statement about Canada / Mexico being like going from SF to LA.
Going to Mexico (real Mexico, not touristy-Cancun or whatever) is night and day from the United States, heh. Canada I think you can make that argument safely, if you're willing to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off a few Canadians in the process. They're not very fond of the whole "51st state" concept, and if you watched the aftermath of the hockey playoffs last week you know what happens when you make them mad! [/QUOTE]Some of us still hold a grudge. The family landed in Boston area from Bedfordshire in 1630 in what was then British North America. Later settled in East Greenwich, R. I. Then Vermont. Had run ins with the domestic terrorists of the time led by Ethan Allan in the early 1780's. Decided to head north but fully intend on taking back which was ours. Just like the Mex are doing.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1168318]"yar yoot" (yaa yut. Depends how you want to spell it) simply means "don't stop!". So that is the best one here.
"mai dtong yud" is okay but means "its not necessary to stop", the other subtle variations are not as good even though will be probably understood."harm yoot" is too formal and would be found on a traffic sign "stopping is forbidden"."mai dai yud" really means "I didn't stop" (or "didn't get to stop"). Past tense.
"dt" is described as an unaspirated (no puff of air)"t" sound as in the word "hotmail" where the "t" loses its trailing hiss of air, replaced by a brief stop of the sound, as there is not time to make that hiss sound before moving on to the next syllable. This makes it a bit similar to a "the" but missing the initial hum before main sound.
Yes, I am having formal Thai Language lessons. No, I will not mention my school. Search the internet. [/QUOTE]Totally agree with you about this. Sorry not to mention "yar yut".
Yes, I also attented several Thai language classes. No, I will not ask you for the name of the school. No, I will not search the net. Why should I?
Maa Paa
[quote=syzygies; 1168327]nothing at all. its not the language, its only the way the speaker uses it. i tend to hear much more loud and ugly speech from certain tourists from england, although obviously, some other languages i wouldn't understand at all. guess we just have to accept the english culture makes "fucking see*nts" common speech.
deutsch is purely a more difficult language to learn due to complex grammar. also, i still can't pronounce "sprichst du deutsch?" without a struggle. thai language is much easier than deutsch due to excessively simple thai grammar and few consonants in a row. keep learning thai. its worth it meet and have fun with thai girls that have very basic english or none.
be careful about picking up impolite thai words from bargirls. big danger! many thai words you hear, cannot be used safely. many farangs are thought to be very obnoxious because they so use many thai swear words. mostly they just don't know they have picked up very ugly ways to say something from bar girls. [/quote]agree again about the difficulty of german language. not for me as a german. but even for me as a german it's very difficult to explain some basic grammar to someone from another country. there are many rules you have to follow and also many things that you definitely can't explain. you just have to learn, to remember and practise them.
there have been moments in my life when felt ashamed to be german, yes. not because of the history (bad enough) but because of the rude behaviour of some germans around me.
and there have been other moments when i felt happy to be german and not one of the other rude behaving foreigners from the us, england, australia or somewhere else.
that's what i tell all my students or the other teachers here who ask me about germans and germany: every country has some people with a good character and some with a less good character.
never judge in general.
thanks for your advise about studying thai. normally i feel happy and comfortable without listening or spotting any other farang near me. my thai is good enough to go wherever i want to go in thailand . without using german or english.
maa paa
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1167261]DEVIL'S DEN! They are very couples friendly with all girls being genuinely bisexual and trained to work in teams of two you should have a blast. If you haven't heard about this place, I highly recommend checking out devilsdenpattaya. Com. I've recieved the most enthusiastic and reliable service there. It's like being a porn director and actor at the same time, minus the camera crew. They will do literally everything with you and your girl and this is the cleanest place I have ever seen in terms of the girls themselves. They are all regularly tested, have paperwork to prove it, shower you and themselves before and after sessions, use listerine excessively before and after sessions and are condom nazis. The Devil's Den satisfaction guarantee doesn't hurt either![/QUOTE]Thanks Satyr for all the comments on this. Will definately try out this place with her. If you come up with any other ideas, let us know!
I am also thinking about the soapies, something I kind of like myself. I guess they would be OK with doing a double with one girl / one guy?
A.
[QUOTE=Bill Miami; 1168117]Hello, I have not posted for a while. I sent these videos to my friends back home to try and give them some idea of what it is like here. But, as I tell them, until you come here, you will really NEVER really know. I hope you like them.
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tln1QnPXHs&feature=related[/url][/QUOTE]Take the ones of the glittzy shopping centers out, then you're talking.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1168474]Just like the Mex are doing.[/QUOTE]Sad but true. Their numbers, along with other central and south americans, are exploding inside the US like nuclear bombs. Most of the poverty stricken illegal immigrants (uneducated but hard working) are reproducing like rabbits once they get settled on american soil. And because they take jobs that keep them below poverty level, they also qualify for social benefits like welfare, and medicaid. And as long as the US government allows it. They will stay on welfare.
Within the next 3 years, a majority of people on welfare in the US will be poverty stricken foreign nationals. Most of them illegal immigrants. Because they are easily able to get jobs (Service industry, restaurants, etc.) and get free welfare benefits, the numbers have exploded over the past 10 years. Once they figured out it was easy. And no one was stopping them. The onslaught was on, and has been on. States like California, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. Are permanently f*cked. The financial damage and cost are irreparable. Worse more, once they get inside your country, they are hard as hell to remove. Transforming language and schools (with their children) , bringing their culture, and 3rd world customs. In the worst ways.
Don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. You will see that large parts of America (especially in around cities, and large towns) feel and look like El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and Mexico (in the worst ways). Its sickening, especially when you realize that the problem is exacerbated by weak, uncoordinated law enforcement (on all levels). Despite the costs. It's not a priority. Yet.
[QUOTE=Bill Miami;1168117]Hello, I have not posted for a while. I sent these videos to my friends back home to try and give them some idea of what it is like here. But, as I tell them, until you come here, you will really NEVER really know. I hope you like them.[/QUOTE]No offense, but the clips you chose were all completely useless.
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A beautiful woman recently showed interest in me on a free website. One of the first things she said was that she wanted me to fuck her. We had talked on and off. When I programmed her number into my phone and she called me it showed up with her name with "Walking Street". (I always put where I met a person next to the name.) So I told her that she had met me before but she denied it. She did say that she had showed her friend my pictures and the friend said that I fucked her before. She would never tell me anything else about the friend. This girl acted kind of strange at times, everyday vehemently accusing me of not being able to see her because I was with a lady even though she had never even met me.
So yesterday I finally went to pick her up. She was drop dead gorgeous. But one thing: she was a freaking midget. I finally got the courage to ask her how tall she was. 140cm (4'6") was the answer. She said that she wanted to go straight to my room and drink. She doesn't like to go out. When we got to my place she realized that she had forgotten to put on deodorant so she was seriously trying to put cologne under her arms. She was fucking looney toons. She asked me why I didn't tell her to bring sexy clothes. She told me that she knew I was not going to want to see her again after today. We started drinking and listening to music and soon she wanted to see my dick. Game on.
I had a brand new liter of Woodford Reserve. She drank 1/5 of the bottle and a Bacardi Breezer over a couple of hours. She kept trying to make me go bareback. I opened a comdom and put it on her chest. She picked it up and threw it across the room. But we finally finished fucking. She was the truth in the sack. But I think she is schizophrenic or something because we would be talking and she would just blurt out various shit like,"You fucked my friend." Then I'd be like who is your friend, but she would just keep right on talking like it never happened. We kept getting into fights, really throwing blows, knocking each other in the head and what not. I kept laughing because I thought I was on Candid Camera or something. I had to get my camera and try to film that crazy shit.
She ran to the bathroom and threw up so much in the sink. It was a good thing she had not eaten or it would have really been messy. It was only liquid though. I gave her a toothbrush to use. She came right back into the room and tried to start drinking again. She kept trying to kiss me and wanted to suck my dick and fuck more. She kept climbing all over me like a monkey. She was very short so she would use her feet a lot. I had to keep beating her off of me. I had to ball up and play sleep so she would leave me alone. Then she started saying that she was hungry and I fell asleep for real. When I woke up about 45 mintues later she was passed out.
Did I mention she was crazy? I woke up an hour and a half later (2:30am) because she started kicking and somehow kicked herself right off the bed. As she fell to the floor she hit her head on the nightstand. She was like I think there is blood. I opened my eyes but didn't see any blood then I looked over and the door to the balcony was open and the light was on outside. I went over and my jeans were wet on the floor outside. Then I looked around and water was everywhere on the floor from the front door to the balcony door. I was like what the fuck did you do. Then she said you want me to leave? I said hell yeah. Then I took her ass home. I spent about 4 hours spring cleaning my place yesterday. I was pissed. There was no telling what she would have done next if I wouldn't have taken her home.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1169195]Link to Pic in Photo Thread.[/QUOTE]
PS What is going on with this crazy format?
Be happy you wern't robbed or worse. INJURED!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1169193]A beautiful woman recently showed interest in me on a free website. One of the first things she said was that she wanted me to fuck her. We had talked on and off. When I programmed her number into my phone and she called me it showed up with her name with "Walking Street". (I always put where I met a person next to the name.) So I told her that she had met me before but she denied it. She did say that she had showed her friend my pictures and the friend said that I fucked her before. She would never tell me anything else about the friend. This girl acted kind of strange at times, everyday vehemently accusing me of not being able to see her because I was with a lady even though she had never even met me.
So yesterday I finally went to pick her up. She was drop dead gorgeous. But one thing: she was a freaking midget. I finally got the courage to ask her how tall she was. 140cm (4'6") was the answer. She said that she wanted to go straight to my room and drink. She doesn't like to go out. When we got to my place she realized that she had forgotten to put on deodorant so she was seriously trying to put cologne under her arms. She was fucking looney toons. She asked me why I didn't tell her to bring sexy clothes. She told me that she knew I was not going to want to see her again after today. We started drinking and listening to music and soon she wanted to see my dick. Game on.
I had a brand new liter of Woodford Reserve. She drank 1/5 of the bottle and a Bacardi Breezer over a couple of hours. She kept trying to make me go bareback. I opened a comdom and put it on her chest. She picked it up and threw it across the room. But we finally finished fucking. She was the truth in the sack. But I think she is schizophrenic or something because we would be talking and she would just blurt out various shit like,"You fucked my friend." Then I'd be like who is your friend, but she would just keep right on talking like it never happened. We kept getting into fights, really throwing blows, knocking each other in the head and what not. I kept laughing because I thought I was on Candid Camera or something. I had to get my camera and try to film that crazy shit.
She ran to the bathroom and threw up so much in the sink. It was a good thing she had not eaten or it would have really been messy. It was only liquid though. I gave her a toothbrush to use. She came right back into the room and tried to start drinking again. She kept trying to kiss me and wanted to suck my dick and fuck more. She kept climbing all over me like a monkey. She was very short so she would use her feet a lot. I had to keep beating her off of me. I had to ball up and play sleep so she would leave me alone. Then she started saying that she was hungry and I fell asleep for real. When I woke up about 45 mintues later she was passed out.
Did I mention she was crazy? I woke up an hour and a half later (2:30am) because she started kicking and somehow kicked herself right off the bed. As she fell to the floor she hit her head on the nightstand. She was like I think there is blood. I opened my eyes but didn't see any blood then I looked over and the door to the balcony was open and the light was on outside. I went over and my jeans were wet on the floor outside. Then I looked around and water was everywhere on the floor from the front door to the balcony door. I was like what the fuck did you do. Then she said you want me to leave? I said hell yeah. Then I took her ass home. I spent about 4 hours spring cleaning my place yesterday. I was pissed. There was no telling what she would have done next if I wouldn't have taken her home.
PS What is going on with this crazy format? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fryatuck;1169286]Be happy you wern't robbed or worse. INJURED![/QUOTE]It had nothing to do with drugs I assure you. If it did, then I don't think her place would have been as nice with a fairly new 60 inch flat screen TV. Plus this was not a P4P thing. It was more of a mental issue on her part.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1169193]So yesterday I finally went to pick her up. She was drop dead gorgeous. But one thing: she was a freaking midget. I finally got the courage to ask her how tall she was. 140cm (4'6") was the answer.[/QUOTE]Another excellent report. Thank you. Despite the mental issues, she definitely seemed hot enough. Question. With her being so small / short, is she really have to f*ck? I mean. How well could she take the dilznick? Shorter ladies tend to be easily intimidated, so I usually go for taller / thicker women for this reason. But I have been surpised by a few spinners (very deep).
Don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. You will see that large parts of America (especially in around cities, and large towns) feel and look like El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and Mexico (in the worst ways). Its sickening, especially when you realize that the problem is exacerbated by weak, uncoordinated law enforcement (on all levels). Despite the costs. It's not a priority. Yet. [/QUOTE]No thanks, I live 60 miles from the USA & that is close enough.
[QUOTE=Siam Dreamer;1169356]Another excellent report. Thank you. Despite the mental issues, she definitely seemed hot enough. Question. With her being so small / short, is she really have to f*ck? I mean. How well could she take the dilznick? Shorter ladies tend to be easily intimidated, so I usually go for taller / thicker women for this reason. But I have been surpised by a few spinners (very deep).[/QUOTE]You are a man after my own heart. I go for the taller, thicker ones too. But since she pursued me, who am I to resist? And besides, if it's for free it's for me. She had no problem taking dick.
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1169469]Don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. You will see that large parts of America (especially in around cities, and large towns) feel and look like El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and Mexico (in the worst ways). Its sickening, especially when you realize that the problem is exacerbated by weak, uncoordinated law enforcement (on all levels).[/QUOTE]And in what cities in America were you sicken in? There is no way to compare Honduras and Nicaragua to any American city. Come to San Diego; we will take a road trip.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1169474]You are a man after my own heart. I go for the taller, thicker ones too. But since she pursued me, who am I to resist? And besides, if it's for free it's for me. She had no problem taking dick.[/QUOTE]Mr. E,
I want a midget too; where can I find her. Don't really care how crazy she might be. I will be there the end of July and I will be hunting for this damn midget!
[QUOTE=Fryatuck;1169286]Be happy you wern't robbed or worse. INJURED![/QUOTE]You quoted three screens of text just to add one line. Feel free to snip a bit.
Slim
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1169481]Mr. E,
I want a midget too; where can I find her. Don't really care how crazy she might be. I will be there the end of July and I will be hunting for this damn midget! [/QUOTE]LOL. She was a non-pro. I'm ready to get down to Tijuana with you.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1169636]LOL. She was a non-pro. I'm ready to get down to Tijuana with you.[/QUOTE]Come on down. The first Street Girl is on me!
So I dropped my cousin off at Sabai Dee Body Massage to get a soapie. I set my watch for 90 minutes so I would know when to return to pick him up. I went down to Walking Street in search of a Coconut Bar t-shirt that I have seen 2 guys wearing. The first guy said that he bought it a while back in front of Carrefour, but they had a sign saying that only 100 were made. The second guy with one I saw on Walking Street, but I don't think he spoke good English because when I asked him he just pointed up and down the street. If anyone has intel on where I can get one of these shirts please let me know.
As a walked past Walking Street Disco I saw a chick who I thought was very sexy. She was dark and looked a bit Indian. She was with another chick who was light and looked Eastern Asian. They claimed to be sisters (but I highly doubt it) from Nepal. I got the phone number and she said they were staying on Soi 13/2. They didn't know the name of the hotel, but showed me the key. She called me the next morning looking for her sister. She had confused my phone number with a guy who I guess had taken her sister the night before. I told her that I would call her later on that day.
That night I met her out on Beach Road. She was with her sister. I told her sister that I would bring my cousin back later to meet her. Off we went to my cousin's hotel. I could not figure this girl's angle for anything. She said that she likes her country better than Thailand because all Thai's think about is money. This had me thinking that maybe she was not working. In addition, I was trying to put the moves on her while my cousin was in the shower but she was a little resistant. But I also thought that no two single women come to Pattaya for "vacation" a few weeks, returns to their country for a couple of months, then comes back to Pattaya as she said they would do. So I made sure I took a couple of pictures in case the thing turned sour later.
We rode back to meet up with the sister. They were hungry and asked if we wanted to eat. My cousin, being the great wingman that he is, told them that we had already eaten, so they could call us when they finished dinner. We made a bee-line to Goose's Fish and Chips on Second Road. We were actually starving but we were not about to treat those women to a meal. They called us an hour later and we went to the front of their hotel. Her sister met us in front and asked what we wanted to do. She said that they wanted to go out to a disco? Not on our dime they were not. I told them that I had plenty to drink in my room and we could go there to party.
That is when the sister dropped it on us that they were in fact working girls. She said that they wanted 3, 000 baht each. We got a nice chuckle out of that because this girl was nothing special. I am not even ashamed to say that she was sub-par. I can't for the life of me understand why these foreign women keep coming to Thailand asking for an exorbitant amount of money. My cousin explained to her that he could get 3 women all night for 3, 000 baht. 1,000 baht for each one. She claimed to not understand. He offered her 1, 000 baht for each of them. She kept calling her sister on the phone (3 times). I have no idea what they were talking about because whenever she hung up she didn't have a deal worked out. She would just say what will you give us. We made it clear many times that we would pay 1, 000 each but she kept saying 3, 000. And she wanted me to work a deal separately with her sister. So I'm like well why the hell do you keep calling her if you aren't telling her about the negotiations. My cousins final offer was 1, 200 baht under the condition that we are able to switch up. She still wanted 3, 000. We rode off and bid her good luck.
Pics in the photo thread. Link: [QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1169750]Link[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gin And Tonic;1169469]Don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. You will see that large parts of America (especially in around cities, and large towns) feel and look like El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and Mexico (in the worst ways). Its sickening, especially when you realize that the problem is exacerbated by weak, uncoordinated law enforcement (on all levels). Despite the costs. It's not a priority. Yet.[/QUOTE]No thanks, I live 60 miles from the USA & that is close enough.[/QUOTE]I live in Cali. So I understand completely. But in a way it's a necessary evil. With out all the Hispanic immigrants, we would have NO work force. Every restaurant you go to is full of Hispanic workers, so are the factories etc. And there's no way I would go out there and pick strawberries. With out all the Hispanic workers, we would have no agricultural economy in California. It is what it is. A necessary evil.
No alcohol to be sold in Thailand from 6pm on Saturday until 3pm on Sunday due to pre-election voting.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1169749]I went down to Walking Street in search of a Coconut Bar t-shirt that I have seen 2 guys wearing.[/QUOTE]Sad!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1169749]She still wanted 3, 000. We rode off and bid her good luck.[/QUOTE]Double sad!
I guess all good things come to an end.
Stopped at this Walking Street gogo on Wednesday night and ordered the draught beer. Seeing that there was no carbonation I took a wee sip, and the stuff was indeed rancid. I immediately summoned the waitress to complain; she in turn called the mamasan. I said that I was sending back this spoiled beer and should be given something out of a bottle (for which I would pay the difference). Here mommie said,"You pay for this," pointing to the bad beer. I calmly explained that, no, I would not be paying for the bad beer. At that, she summoned more staffers to surround my table, which was near the door. As I departed the bar, mommie kicked my rear, a grave put-down for her, I'm sure, but meaningless to me as it did not smart one whit. As I laughed on the way out she picked up a stick of some sort and thew it my way.
Entry No. 2 on my shitlist would be Alcatraz. I do love the setup since the remodel, by far the most elaborate I have seen in Patts. However, I recall they had a lot more babydoll dancers (big-haired, doe-eyed girls the Japanese love) in early December. Now the girls are taller, certainly jailhouse tougher, in keeping with the motif. Might be some fellers' tastes, but not mine. That in itself does not qualify for Wildhawk Shitlist. What put Alcrataz on the list were the worthless male bathroom attendants who shoved the door on me after I failed to tip. I DO NOT tip washroom attendants. In fact, I should be paid for the intrusion on my privacy. On the scale of worthless Thai men, those working in gogos are off the charts.
Anyhow, no need to suffer in such a joint with all the superb competition in these environs.
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1169797]Avoid Club Lollipop and Alcatraz.[/QUOTE]Thank you for sharing. I will return in August for 3 weeks and will definitely cross the places off my list. Bad customer service at certain clubs / gogo / bars can definitely ruin your trip and is unacceptable (no matter how hot the girls are inside). These places must be avoided. Even if you have money to burn. Thankfully there are many of venues to choose from there. Lack off patrons / business sends a powerful message to managers and owners.
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1169769]No alcohol to be sold in Thailand from 6pm on Saturday until 3pm on Sunday due to pre-election voting.[/QUOTE]Yep! Lots of open air bars are closed and some that are open have the lights off but Beach Road was packed with providers about an hour ago.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1169861]Yep! Lots of open air bars are closed and some that are open have the lights off but Beach Road was packed with providers about an hour ago.[/QUOTE]And they might have been charging extra. Next weekend everybody remember to load the fridge Friday night with enough to get through the weekend.
Arrived in BKK asked how much for taxi to go to Dawin. They said 450 Baht. I said ok and off we went. I then find out that the driver does not know where it is. We finally find it and I get settled in. I couldn't sleep, so wandered the streets to get a lay of the land. Unfortunately that street is full of LBs.
This was my first trip to Thailand, but am not new to mongering, having been on 3 continents. I just don't post a lot.
The next day I found a sign for massages just past the 7/11 down from the Dawin. I talked to a lady named Boo or something like that. I asked for the oil massage, but without the oil. I follow her down a sort of alley to a building where we get in an elevator and go to the 5th or 6th floor to a private room. She begins the lame massage and on the flip she goes to the bathroom to freshen up. When she returns she starts with a nice bbj. Of course she is looking for extras. I asked how much for sex? She says 1000 Baht for every thing. I said ok and it was a good session. All of the girls there are looking for extras. They said they don't make any money at 350 Baht for massage. Boo is the best looking one I saw. Now off to Pattaya. I know this is the Pattaya forum, but since this was short I added it here.
I arrive in Pattaya and it is everything I expected. My first stay was at Queen Victoria on soi 6. It was a good value, but don't know if I would stay there again. No issue with the hotel, except if you like hot water in the shower you may be disappointed it is sufficiently warm, but no where near hot.
The constant attention from the girls every time I walked out of the hotel was not some thing that I really liked. They knew every thing I did. It kind of reminded me of CR at the HDR where some of the not so lovely ladies would keep bothering you to buy them a drink. It would have been better for me to stay away from there and then visit there (just my opinion). I never did bar fine a girl from soi 6, but did play pool with some and had a great make out session with Dia from Sex in the City bar. I was grabbing her ass as we were kissing and she said I can do that. I am not really into anal, so it didn't do much for me. I was turned off buy all the piercings she had. She also showed me her pussy piercing. There was another girl there who I started with first, but she didn't do long time, so that is how I ended up with Dia (note to self ask about LT before buying drink).
I walked down beach Road a few times and saw a girl who looked nice. Talked with her and said her name is Lek. She seemed nice, so for 1000 Baht LT, I said let's go. I walked past all the girls on soi 6 and up to the room where the fun began. I had a great time with her. She was a real GFE with me and I kept her for 3 nights. That kept the soi 6 gals in their seats in stead of running out and grabbing me to get me in for a drink.
I spent time in various bars off beach Road and soi 7 & 8. I like to play pool, so I spent time during the day doing that and meeting more ladies. I am not a great pool player, but I only got beat once when playing 2 out of 3 games and that was by Roy at the bar on the corner of Beach Road and soi 8. It is on the right if you are walking from Beach Road. I should have bar fined her as she was a lot of fun, just not enough time. Oh well, maybe next trip.
I moved to Eastiny Place Hotel on soi 8 near 2nd Road. The wifi there is weak. I moved from room 602 to 604 and had a much better signal. I need a strong signal for my financial / business reasons. I had several arguments with the guy who installed the system. He said it was my computer not his system. I showed the hotel staff the signal with the door opened and how it dropped when I closed the door. Besides it would fluctuate constantly when I was in 602. Room 604 is close to the antenna or what ever it is called for the system. The other issue there was ants in the room and in the restaurant. I would not stay there again due to that.
I spent some time at Pim bar on Pattay Klang and Beach Road. Pam and I played many games of pool. I was tired and not feeling great, so one night I bar fined her just to go to dinner. It was 300 Baht BF and she ate something that was low end on the menu, even after I told her to have what she wanted. I took her back to the bar and gave her 500 baht for her time. She was interesting to talk to and very informative about a lot of issues, including girls, bars, food, etc.
One or two nights later I bar fined Pam LT and off we went. First stop was to eat. I think she ate some soup which was about 60 Baht, again I told her to eat what ever she wanted. I know some of you could tell about a lot of cheap places to eat a lot of food. Pam told me about some of them, but I wasn't concerned about that at the time. Back at the room she showed me pictures of her 10 year old daughter and her parents. She also told me that she has customers, friends and boyfriends. The friends she doesn't have boom boom with. I won't go into all the other details about the rest.
We took a shower together as I did with all the girls I was with. After that it was a decent session in bed, but not the best I have had. After round one, I pulled out of her only to notice blood on the condom. It was about the first one third and not the whole length and none got on the bed. I told her that there is blood and she couldn't believe it. I pulled it off inside out, with the blood on the inside and gave it to her. She took it into the bathroom and said, how can this be, I had my period 10 days ago? That ended our evening. I paid 300 Baht bar fine and was to give her 1000 for LT, but ended up giving her 500 or 600 Baht and said good-bye.
Another night I went to walking street and decided to get a massage, no extras just massage. The drinks are much more expensive on Walking street as I expected. I played pool with a girl and told her no drink, but I would tip her when I left, which she preferred. I found that to be the case with other girls. When the lady drinks were 50 – 70 baht I didn't mind, but when they wanted 130 Baht I said no.
I left Walking street and headed back to soi 8. When I got to soi 8 and Beach Road there was a girl in the bar on the corner on the left who grabbed onto me. I told her I was tired and just wanted to go to my hotel and sleep. She would not let go and was kissing me like an old girlfriend, so with that enthusiasm, I paid the 300 baht BF and took her for the night. Her rate was 1000 Baht for LT, which was normal for the bar girls in that area. We showered and got into bed and she was all over me. This girl was an enthusiastic kisser, but I really was dead tired. Well the sex began and she had her orgasm and I just went soft and didn't come. She must have realized it and asked me if I came and I said no. Well we were at it for some time, so she grabbed my dick after I pulled out and took the condom off and went to the bathroom to check to see if it was empty or not. It was and she said she felt really bad because she came and I didn't. I said don't worry and I said I need to sleep. I don't remember her name, but she looked nice, but when the clothes came off her body was not that great. In the morning I just paid her the 1000 Baht and let her go. I could tell she was disappointed, but I just wasn't in the mood with her. I needed more sleep.
Well, time went by fast and the next thing I know, I am packing to get ready to head back to Bangkok for one night before leaving for the States. I called Lek as I wanted to give her something and buy her breakfast. She said she would be there in 10-20 minutes. When she arrived I was almost packed and went to breakfast. After that I asked her if she wanted to go to Bangkok with me. Her face lit up and she said yes and also wanted to go to the airport with me. I said that was fine, but we would have to get up early. At 11:00 am the cab was there and off we went to Bangkok.
We arrived and checked in at the Dawin. After getting settled, we went for something to eat and walked around the area. Then back to the hotel for a nap. We woke up late and showered and it was [play time. I called the front desk to arrange for a cab for the morning and back to sleep. In the morning no cab was arranged for, so Lek said she would get one from the street. Lek has a cab waiting and off we go. It was 231 Baht for the ride to the airport. I gave the driver 250 and grabbed my bags. It cost me 450 baht to go from the airport to the Dawin when I arrived. Well, as we know, the price is always cheaper for the locals. There was also very little traffic at that time in the morning, so it was a quicker ride.
There is a lot more I could write, but my fingers have had enough. Ok, I will say that I did have a soapy and won't have another one. Nice lady at a place across the street from Big C, but it did seem awkward sliding around on the mattress. For the money, I would prefer a regular massage and then go bar fine a lady.
It was a good trip and I didn't spend as much as I had planned for. I gave Lek 2000 Baht at the airport because I had a great time with her. She was very happy with that and then a kiss good-bye and I was headed home. I hope to go back later in the year or after the first of the year for a much longer stay.
[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/SexySadie.html[/url] Some of us from DIA know her. She's now in Patts.
I thought all freelancers were happy with 500 baht ST and 1 000 baht LT, but someone here wrote that these prices only refer to beach-road freelancers, whereas freelancers on walking street and the discos on said road are demanding 1 000 baht ST and 2 000 baht LT.Is this true?
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1171421]I thought all freelancers were happy with 500 baht ST and 1 000 baht LT, but someone here wrote that these prices only refer to beach-road freelancers, whereas freelancers on walking street and the discos on said road are demanding 1 000 baht ST and 2 000 baht LT.Is this true?[/QUOTE]In my experience while there, the girls from Beach Road were around 500-700b for short time and 1000-1200b for long time.
I paid the freelancers in the discos various prices. Some accepted 1000-1500b for short time, and others 1000-2000 for long time.
It's often about chemistry too. Once a girl turned down 1500b from a guy for longtime, and went longtime with me for 1000b.
Plus depends what time of the night it is. If it's early in the night, the girls might haggle for a bit more. But if it's after 2am, they will accept a reasonable offer. Normally not less than 1000b.
I always agree everything upfront.
Thanks for that report. Normally I don't follow the Pattaya section. But this report was very long, full of details and looked to be quite true and honest. Not really many men here would admit that they felt tired and need some time to rest.
I think, I would not be that patient to write such a long report here. Thanks again.
Maa Paa
[QUOTE=Hobbyist2; 1170549]Arrived in BKK asked how much for taxi to go to Dawin. They said 450 Baht. I said ok and off we went. I then find out that the driver does not know where it is. We finally find it and I get settled in. I couldn't sleep, so wandered the streets to get a lay of the land. Unfortunately that street is full of LBs.
This was my first trip to Thailand, but am not new to mongering, having been on 3 continents. I just don't post a lot.
The next day I found a sign for massages just past the 7/11 down from the Dawin. I talked to a lady named Boo or something like that. I asked for the oil massage, but without the oil. I follow her down a sort of alley to a building where we get in an elevator and go to the 5th or 6th floor to a private room. She begins the lame massage and on the flip she goes to the bathroom to freshen up. When she returns she starts with a nice bbj. Of course she is looking for extras. I asked how much for sex? She says 1000 Baht for every thing. I said ok and it was a good session. All of the girls there are looking for extras. They said they don't make any money at 350 Baht for massage. Boo is the best looking one I saw. Now off to Pattaya. I know this is the Pattaya forum, but since this was short I added it here.
I arrive in Pattaya and it is everything I expected. My first stay was at Queen Victoria on soi 6. It was a good value, but don't know if I would stay there again. No issue with the hotel, except if you like hot water in the shower you may be disappointed it is sufficiently warm, but no where near hot.
The constant attention from the girls every time I walked out of the hotel was not some thing that I really liked. They knew every thing I did. It kind of reminded me of CR at the HDR where some of the not so lovely ladies would keep bothering you to buy them a drink. It would have been better for me to stay away from there and then visit there (just my opinion). I never did bar fine a girl from soi 6, but did play pool with some and had a great make out session with Dia from Sex in the City bar. I was grabbing her ass as we were kissing and she said I can do that. I am not really into anal, so it didn't do much for me. I was turned off buy all the piercings she had. She also showed me her pussy piercing. There was another girl there who I started with first, but she didn't do long time, so that is how I ended up with Dia (note to self ask about LT before buying drink).
I walked down beach Road a few times and saw a girl who looked nice. Talked with her and said her name is Lek. She seemed nice, so for 1000 Baht LT, I said let's go. I walked past all the girls on soi 6 and up to the room where the fun began. I had a great time with her. She was a real GFE with me and I kept her for 3 nights. That kept the soi 6 gals in their seats in stead of running out and grabbing me to get me in for a drink.
I spent time in various bars off beach Road and soi 7 & 8. I like to play pool, so I spent time during the day doing that and meeting more ladies. I am not a great pool player, but I only got beat once when playing 2 out of 3 games and that was by Roy at the bar on the corner of Beach Road and soi 8. It is on the right if you are walking from Beach Road. I should have bar fined her as she was a lot of fun, just not enough time. Oh well, maybe next trip.
I moved to Eastiny Place Hotel on soi 8 near 2nd Road. The wifi there is weak. I moved from room 602 to 604 and had a much better signal. I need a strong signal for my financial / business reasons. I had several arguments with the guy who installed the system. He said it was my computer not his system. I showed the hotel staff the signal with the door opened and how it dropped when I closed the door. Besides it would fluctuate constantly when I was in 602. Room 604 is close to the antenna or what ever it is called for the system. The other issue there was ants in the room and in the restaurant. I would not stay there again due to that.
I spent some time at Pim bar on Pattay Klang and Beach Road. Pam and I played many games of pool. I was tired and not feeling great, so one night I bar fined her just to go to dinner. It was 300 Baht BF and she ate something that was low end on the menu, even after I told her to have what she wanted. I took her back to the bar and gave her 500 baht for her time. She was interesting to talk to and very informative about a lot of issues, including girls, bars, food, etc.
One or two nights later I bar fined Pam LT and off we went. First stop was to eat. I think she ate some soup which was about 60 Baht, again I told her to eat what ever she wanted. I know some of you could tell about a lot of cheap places to eat a lot of food. Pam told me about some of them, but I wasn't concerned about that at the time. Back at the room she showed me pictures of her 10 year old daughter and her parents. She also told me that she has customers, friends and boyfriends. The friends she doesn't have boom boom with. I won't go into all the other details about the rest.
We took a shower together as I did with all the girls I was with. After that it was a decent session in bed, but not the best I have had. After round one, I pulled out of her only to notice blood on the condom. It was about the first one third and not the whole length and none got on the bed. I told her that there is blood and she couldn't believe it. I pulled it off inside out, with the blood on the inside and gave it to her. She took it into the bathroom and said, how can this be, I had my period 10 days ago? That ended our evening. I paid 300 Baht bar fine and was to give her 1000 for LT, but ended up giving her 500 or 600 Baht and said good-bye.
Another night I went to walking street and decided to get a massage, no extras just massage. The drinks are much more expensive on Walking street as I expected. I played pool with a girl and told her no drink, but I would tip her when I left, which she preferred. I found that to be the case with other girls. When the lady drinks were 50 – 70 baht I didn't mind, but when they wanted 130 Baht I said no.
I left Walking street and headed back to soi 8. When I got to soi 8 and Beach Road there was a girl in the bar on the corner on the left who grabbed onto me. I told her I was tired and just wanted to go to my hotel and sleep. She would not let go and was kissing me like an old girlfriend, so with that enthusiasm, I paid the 300 baht BF and took her for the night. Her rate was 1000 Baht for LT, which was normal for the bar girls in that area. We showered and got into bed and she was all over me. This girl was an enthusiastic kisser, but I really was dead tired. Well the sex began and she had her orgasm and I just went soft and didn't come. She must have realized it and asked me if I came and I said no. Well we were at it for some time, so she grabbed my dick after I pulled out and took the condom off and went to the bathroom to check to see if it was empty or not. It was and she said she felt really bad because she came and I didn't. I said don't worry and I said I need to sleep. I don't remember her name, but she looked nice, but when the clothes came off her body was not that great. In the morning I just paid her the 1000 Baht and let her go. I could tell she was disappointed, but I just wasn't in the mood with her. I needed more sleep.
Well, time went by fast and the next thing I know, I am packing to get ready to head back to Bangkok for one night before leaving for the States. I called Lek as I wanted to give her something and buy her breakfast. She said she would be there in 10-20 minutes. When she arrived I was almost packed and went to breakfast. After that I asked her if she wanted to go to Bangkok with me. Her face lit up and she said yes and also wanted to go to the airport with me. I said that was fine, but we would have to get up early. At 11:00 am the cab was there and off we went to Bangkok.
We arrived and checked in at the Dawin. After getting settled, we went for something to eat and walked around the area. Then back to the hotel for a nap. We woke up late and showered and it was [play time. I called the front desk to arrange for a cab for the morning and back to sleep. In the morning no cab was arranged for, so Lek said she would get one from the street. Lek has a cab waiting and off we go. It was 231 Baht for the ride to the airport. I gave the driver 250 and grabbed my bags. It cost me 450 baht to go from the airport to the Dawin when I arrived. Well, as we know, the price is always cheaper for the locals. There was also very little traffic at that time in the morning, so it was a quicker ride.
There is a lot more I could write, but my fingers have had enough. Ok, I will say that I did have a soapy and won't have another one. Nice lady at a place across the street from Big C, but it did seem awkward sliding around on the mattress. For the money, I would prefer a regular massage and then go bar fine a lady.
It was a good trip and I didn't spend as much as I had planned for. I gave Lek 2000 Baht at the airport because I had a great time with her. She was very happy with that and then a kiss good-bye and I was headed home. I hope to go back later in the year or after the first of the year for a much longer stay.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that report. Normally I don't follow the Pattaya section. But this report was very long, full of details and looked to be quite true and honest. Not really many men here would admit that they felt tired and need some time to rest.
I think, I would not be that patient to write such a long report here. Thanks again.
Maa Paa
[QUOTE=Maa Paa; 1171524]Thanks for that report. Normally I don't follow the Pattaya section. But this report was very long, full of details and looked to be quite true and honest. Not really many men here would admit that they felt tired and need some time to rest.
I think, I would not be that patient to write such a long report here. Thanks again.
Maa Paa[/QUOTE]Maa Paa,
Thanks for your comment. I have read some of your posts and viewed some of your photos. Thanks, I enjoyed them. I am glad you liked my report. I have gained valuable info from this forum, so I felt I needed to contribute. I don't post much, but when I do I try to make it detailed so it may be helpful for others. I had a few more encounters with ladies and was in many different bars, but didn't include them due to the length of my report. It would have been about the same as with the others. Lek was the best girl I had in every way. She was nice looking, but not a model type. I may look for some stunners next trip. I had some observations I was going to add but didn't. May be I will make some comments later or next trip report. I hope to stay for two months or so next time.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1167647]There are more like twenty dozen languages spoken in Europe, actually.[/QUOTE]My good man. I think you may be taking a bit of a wiggle with the truth when you say 20 dozen, are you not?
[QUOTE=Polyorchid;1171567]There are more like twenty dozen languages spoken in Europe, actually.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Polyorchid;1171567]My good man. I think you may be taking a bit of a wiggle with the truth when you say 20 dozen, are you not?[/QUOTE]No, if you google it you'll see that 230 languages is a amount that is commonly stated.
[QUOTE=Maa Paa; 1171524]Snip.
I think, I would not be that patient to write such a long report here. Thanks again.
Maa Paa[/QUOTE]I had to hit page down 23 times to get past the quote just to read your post. Please save an old man eye strain and snip a bit. We will all appreciate it.
Slim
This morning I woke up to find this text message on my cell phone:
"Goodmorningdaddy; nuday you gife fon go rume daddy 12 ocook ok. Prêt. I no haev maonny"
Naturally, I responded: "OK, honey."
I love this place.
Daddy
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1171979]This morning I woke up to find this text message on my cell phone:
"Goodmorningdaddy; nuday you gife fon go rume daddy 12 ocook ok. Prêt. I no haev maonny"
Naturally, I responded: "OK, honey."[/QUOTE]Translation?
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1172012]
[QUOTE]"Goodmorningdaddy; nuday you gife fon go rume daddy 12 ocook ok. Prêt. I no haev maonny"[/QUOTE]Translation?[/QUOTE]Apparently she wants the guy to go to the room and offer some fun to these 12 cooks who are there, and to try to look pretty. Also she has no mother. I think we need a bit more background on this one.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1172032]Apparently she wants the guy to go to the room and offer some fun to these 12 cooks who are there, and to try to look pretty. Also she has no mother. I think we need a bit more background on this one.[/QUOTE]You bastard! I just spit-up my screwdriver!
Snip snap.
Yes, sorry. You are right.
Next time I will try to remember your tip. Normally I try to keep my post quite short. Don't really know why I forgot it this time here.
Maa Paa
What's the best website for weather forecasts for Pattaya. Preferably hour-by-hour? I would like somehting like this, but more accurate and reliable:
[url]http://beta.yr.no/place/Thailand/Chon_Buri/Pattaya/hour_by_hour.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1172012]Translation?[/QUOTE]Good morning Daddy, new day your good friend Fon, can I come to your room at 12:00 noon okay please, I have no money.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1172218]Good morning Daddy, new day your good friend Fon, can I come to your room at 12:00 noon okay please, I have no money.
LBM[/QUOTE]Yep. Perfect translation. That's why you and me get more pussy in Pattaya than those other guys.
I usually use.
[url]www.wunderground.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1172213]What's the best website for weather forecasts for Pattaya. Preferably hour-by-hour? I would like somehting like this, but more accurate and reliable:
[url]http://beta.yr.no/place/Thailand/Chon_Buri/Pattaya/hour_by_hour.html[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1172291]Yep. Perfect translation.[/QUOTE]I thought "gife" would mean "girlfriend" rather than "good friend", and what on earth does "prêt" mean?
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1172340]I thought "gife" would mean "girlfriend" rather than "good friend", and what on earth does "prêt" mean?[/QUOTE]Actually, LBM got the gist of it right, but an even more perfect translation would be:
Good morning Daddy. Today you give Fon go room Daddy 12 o'clock ok please. I have no money.
Just read the message phonetically and fill in the blanks. It's Thaiglese, and this uneducated little 19 year-old speaks it far better than I can speak Thai.
Hobbyist2. Loved your report. It was a nice departure from the sameness of reports. I particularly liked your thumbnail sketches of the various ladies you interacted with. I could picture them in my mind.
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1172213]What's the best website for weather forecasts for Pattaya. Preferably hour-by-hour? I would like somehting like this, but more accurate and reliable:
[url]http://beta.yr.no/place/Thailand/Chon_Buri/Pattaya/hour_by_hour.html[/url][/QUOTE]What's the purpose of this?
[QUOTE=Vittu;1172343]Hobbyist2. Loved your report. It was a nice departure from the sameness of reports. I particularly liked your thumbnail sketches of the various ladies you interacted with. I could picture them in my mind.[/QUOTE]Glad you liked the report. If my plans work out, I will be there for a much longer stay next trip. I will do my next report in Word first and then post it in sections, maybe weekly.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1172291]Yep. Perfect translation. That's why you and me get more pussy in Pattaya than those other guys.[/QUOTE]That would be pretty sad for those guys since I'm in Vietnam and get absolutely zero in Pattaya. Which is just slightly less than what I get in Vietnam come to think of it.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1172369]That would be pretty sad for those guys since I'm in Vietnam and get absolutely zero in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Yah, I'd hate to be one of "those guys".
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1172213]What's the best website for weather forecasts for Pattaya. Preferably hour-by-hour? I would like somehting like this, but more accurate and reliable:
[url]http://beta.yr.no/place/Thailand/Chon_Buri/Pattaya/hour_by_hour.html[/url][/QUOTE]I always go for weather. Com.
Here's the address.
[url]http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Pattaya[/url]+Thailand+THXX0015.
Then click on "Hourly" and in the hourly section you will find two tabs, overview which gives you a chart like you've shown and details which shows it in columns.
Sorry, couldn't paste the exact url as its extremely long!
FK
Diamond agogo is more like a lump of coal than a diamond.
Rude staff and overpriced drinks, no nuidity, and old girls driving you mad for lady drinks.
Went there with a friend, the made a mistake on our bill, funnily enough it was in there favour for 2000 Baht, will not bother going again.
Just my two pence worth!
[QUOTE=All About Bob; 1172843]Diamond agogo is more like a lump of coal than a diamond.
Rude staff and overpriced drinks, no nuidity, and old girls driving you mad for lady drinks.
Went there with a friend, the made a mistake on our bill, funnily enough it was in there favour for 2000 Baht, will not bother going again.
Just my two pence worth![/QUOTE]Diamond a gogo fell out of the top ranks along with others a long time ago. Keep searching diamond hunter, or better to call you silver hunter. Not sure if you can find any diamonds or gold in the commercialized joints anymore. Pattaya has changed!
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1172852]Diamond a gogo fell out of the top ranks along with others a long time ago. Keep searching diamond hunter, or better to call you silver hunter. Not sure if you can find any diamonds or gold in the commercialized joints anymore. Pattaya has changed![/QUOTE]Fully agree, but some poeple still doing a great job, Living dolls 2, Iron Club and whats up, never fail to deliver!
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1173160]Yes and I like Angel Witch and Heaven Above. Last night found a 10 just walking through the street with her friend. They were both 20 and looking for foreigners. I just took them both straight to my hotel and they stayed until noon. We drank and fucked most of the night. They interacted with each other which made it even more enjoyable. Total cost 2, 000 Baht for them plus drinks.[/QUOTE]It has been 3 years since I have strolled down Walking Street, I am wondering what a "10" looks like? Do you have any pics showing her face and outfit that you might share with us? Also what time did you pick these girls up? And which hotel did you stay at that allowed 2 guests at the same time? I have never done THAT before.
Should be back in Pattaya this November for the first time in 3 years, I was wondering if Beach Road is still worth the hunt. Where are the best areas and time of day to check it out? I want to visit areas where I can avoid ladyboys. Any current intel would be appreciated. I assume the price point is still 500-700 ST and 1000 LT.
[QUOTE=Almotu;1173280]Should be back in Pattaya this November for the first time in 3 years, I was wondering if Beach Road is still worth the hunt. Where are the best areas and time of day to check it out? I want to visit areas where I can avoid ladyboys. Any current intel would be appreciated. I assume the price point is still 500-700 ST and 1000 LT.[/QUOTE]You could start around soi 6 and go all the way to walking street, but I think it is best from soi 7 to Mike's Mall. Ladyboys are around in different areas. You can't avoid them, except to just say no thanks if they approach you. That's what I did and never had a problem. The rates are the same as you stated.
[QUOTE=Almotu;1173280]I was wondering if Beach Road is still worth the hunt.[/QUOTE]I agree with Hobbyist2 and should also add that I do not think that I have ever paid MORE than 500 Baht, short time (Sometimes less) on Beach Road!
I am in Pattaya at the moment and, for ME, Beach Road. (Coconut Bar) has always represented the best value in town.
OK they are not ALL 'perfect 10's' but anyway, us guys all like something different!
Two days ago I was walking Beach Road. And saw a rather cute girl of around 25 years old. She was 1. 46 mtr tall with a very slim body to match. A real 'spinner! '
After a short chat I invited her to join me for a coffee / cola and she proposed we buy from 7/11 as 'Other place expensive. 7/11 OK! ' So, she is saving me money already. Hmmmmmm, GOOD girl!
After we had had our drinks and a talk she joined me at my hotel for 'Short time. '
Our 'Short time. ' Lasted almost three hours and was GREAT! She REALLY enjoyed sex! So much so that when my finger, tongue or dick was not in her pussy she was playing with herself!
I had to get up rather early the next morning so, reluctantly let her go at around midnight with the agreed short time payment of 500 Baht.
I enjoyed it so much that I called her the next day and she came to meet me at my hotel at around 20. 00 hrs. We spent a rather pleasant few hours eating, drinking and talking at a small Thai place nearby and then back to my hotel. She left, the next day, after breakfast at around 10. 30 am.
Not bad value for a 500 Baht Coconut Bar short time! I must admit that I did slip a little extra tip into her handbag before she left. We then agreed to meet again in a few days time.
So, it is out there. You just have to invest a little time looking, be a 'nice guy, ' treat them well, and your investment will be WELL worth while.
It works for me!
Enjoy,
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Vittu;1172343]Hobbyist2. Loved your report. It was a nice departure from the sameness of reports. I particularly liked your thumbnail sketches of the various ladies you interacted with. I could picture them in my mind.[/QUOTE]Can anybody provide a comparison of Girls in Pattaya with Penang or Angeles City? Percentage wise how much costly it is for girls in Penang compared with girls available in Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1173519]Having read a few of the recent comments I decided to 'Walk the Walk. ' The beach road walk.
I started from Soi 6 and ended at the entrance to the Walking Street. The walk started at around three thirty in the afternoon.
I have never seen such a collection of sorry looking people like this in Pattaya before. Thai girls and foreigners. The girls looked like the girls that are left over in the bar at the end of the night after all the half decent ones have been bar fined just leaving the dross. Well it seems the dross have given up hoping that some foreigner will bar fine them and moved to the beach where there are no bar fines. Here they will charge 500 Baht. But really who would want to pay 500 Baht for these? Many had plastered their faces with makeup and were trying to look sexy. It didn't work. In fact I have to put this down as one of the ugliest walks I've ever taken. If these girls don't work in bars it's probably because the bars don't want them. Many were fat and looked incredibly lazy. A few others looked sick as if they had some kind of disease.
Guys, a chack-wow would have been more exciting than the walk I took today.[/QUOTE]Is this your first time to Pattaya? Many years ago the beach road used to have gems sprinkled amongst the dogs. Unfortunately, the dogs are the only ones prowling these days.
The whole landscape of Pattaya has changed. Very few young cuties now days and every increasing prices. There are still some gems to be found, but they are mostly picked up by the expats (lots of them) who live there and troll the spots on their daily rounds. If you're into older women, mothers, and well worn pros, then Pattaya is heaven!
I am planning my second trip to Pattaya in August. Do any members or Pattaya regulars wish to share a beer and swap some info? Please pm me. I'll be in Pattaya 2nd week Aug.
EJ
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1173602]. If you're into older women, mothers, and well worn pros, then Pattaya is heaven![/QUOTE]Hahahahaha I really had a good laugh on this one.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1173602]The whole landscape of Pattaya has changed. Very few young cuties now days and every increasing prices. There are still some gems to be found, but they are mostly picked up by the expats (lots of them) who live there and troll the spots on their daily rounds. If you're into older women, mothers, and well worn pros, then Pattaya is heaven![/QUOTE]I just returned from LOS and spent time in both Pattaya and Bangkok. Yes, the overall SW talent level in BKK (at the NPL for example) is much higher. But of the 100's of ladies on Beach Road there always seemed to be a handful of acceptable choices. You just have to be patient. If there are no acceptable choices just try again in an hour or two. I also found that you have a better chance of a GFE with the Pattaya ladies than with the Bangkok ladies. YMMV.
The majority of the Pattaye SW ladies were found during from the Central Festival Mall down to the Soi 13's.
SunLover
Don't look now, but that "Colours of the East" festival is back July 7-10. They're filling the beach walk with tents from soi 6 or so down to Walking Street, leaving little space to walk. All are selling the kind of merchandise easily found at Thepprasit Market, in front of the Avenue, or at zillions of other places around town. The setup / teardown activity tends to clot Beach Road. And also affects 2 Road, not to mention all the girls, ladyboys, etc, temporarily displaced.
Also got the Buddha holiday soon (July 15-16) , so you'll have 3 weekends out of 4 with 2-day (or maybe 1. 5 day) official alcohol-sale shutdowns and bar closings. Just a heads-up.
[QUOTE=Ploughman;1173847]Don't look now, but that "Colours of the East" festival is back July 7-10. They're filling the beach walk with tents from soi 6 or so down to Walking Street, leaving little space to walk.[/QUOTE]In fact, it started yesterday (or was it two days ago). I hate it! Are the FLs regrouping to second road? Anyway, the tents seem to close down at 9 or 10 o'clock.
[QUOTE=Ploughman;1173847]Also got the Buddha holiday soon (July 15-16) , so you'll have 3 weekends out of 4 with 2-day (or maybe 1. 5 day) official alcohol-sale shutdowns and bar closings. Just a heads-up.[/QUOTE]Damnit! I will be in Bangkok then. Will all bars be closed?
[QUOTE=Ploughman; 1173847]Don't look now, but that "Colours of the East" festival is back July 7-10. They're filling the beach walk with tents from soi 6 or so down to Walking Street, leaving little space to walk. All are selling the kind of merchandise easily found at Thepprasit Market, in front of the Avenue, or at zillions of other places around town. The setup / teardown activity tends to clot Beach Road. And also affects 2 Road, not to mention all the girls, ladyboys, etc, temporarily displaced.
Also got the Buddha holiday soon (July 15-16) , so you'll have 3 weekends out of 4 with 2-day (or maybe 1. 5 day) official alcohol-sale shutdowns and bar closings. Just a heads-up.[/QUOTE]I am coming to Pattaya in early August and hope that this madness is over by the time I get there. Last year when this same thing was on it was terrible trying to find some talent.
I spent over 2 months in Pattaya on my recent visit to Thailand. My observation. Many of the ladies on BR / WS have probably seen better days. Some have that 1000 meter stare. Shell shocked from too many battles with foreigners who want too much for too little. I think the top 5% of the ladies working as freelancers in BR can hold their own against ANY of the overpriced dancers in the clubs / discos on WS. I was riding my motorbike early one morning. An attractive lady drew my attention. I parked near Soi 10, crossed BR, and now have her phone number / name and enjoy getting a call from her every 3-4 days when I'm in Pattaya. She isn't a stunner, but for 700 Baht, I feel I'm really getting my money's worth. Whats my point? Not all BR / WS ladies are P4P burnouts. Diamond miners have to sift through a lot of mud and silt before they find what they are looking for, right? Like playing Texas Hold'them. One has to wait, and pick their spots / opportunities when they present themselves. I found my gem around 9A! I've also been down BR at all hours of the day, and into early evening. I'm not hyper-selective, and I don't like walking sperm banks, but I have seen many ladies that I would really like to get to know in the bibical sense!
[B]Avoid Angel Witch. [/B]
They told me to leave or buy another drink, I was not drinking fast enough.
I questioned that and said who said so, who is the manager. To nil effect.
Needless to say, I left, and they also lost a barfine trying to chisel me for another drink.
Another annoying thing they do, if you are early, and you have a good front seat, they ask you to move or share another table.
So that they can give your table to a preferred player (mostly Japanese or Korean).
[B]Avoid Angel Witch. [/B]
I can't believe some of the negative reports I have read about Beach Road. Come on guys, do we really think that Beach Road should be full of stunners for 500 ST and 1000 LT? I know there aren't many, but occasionally you get some nice lookers. There were a couple of hotties that I could kick myself for not taking. However, if you don't find what you want, you can always go to one of the bars along Beach Road. The ones near Pattaya Klang, soi 7 & 8 have some decent ladies for 300 BF and 500 ST / 1000 LT. Now for a few hundred baht more you can go from BR to one of the bars and look for a lady or you could avoid it and leave it to those of us who appreciate it for what it is. For me, I like the hunt. It adds to the thrill.
An observation that got my attention on BR was not the not so lovely ladies, but the foreigners along BR that sit around with seemingly nothing to do. These were mostly older gentlemen. I don't mean any disrespect to older gentlemen, I am getting there myself. However, I think that sight looked more pathetic than the ugly women hanging out. I had one of these gentlemen stop within three steps of me when I was talking with a lady. He had a cell phone in his ear and just stood there without ever saying a word in the phone. When I stopped talking to the lady for about 15 seconds he walked away. Another time I was sitting and talking to a lady when an older gentleman stops an sits about three feet from us. There were many other vacant places he could have picked to sit in that general area, but he sat close to us. I don't know if they are so bored with themselves that they want to listen in on other people's conversations or what? Then I saw one guy sit amongst the ladys with no apparent interest in taking them. Shortly after I would see the ladys get up and move. Maybe I am missing something, but that was my observation as I saw it.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1173856]--So there you have it. You have the lowest of the low Thai girls fucking the lowest of the low foreigners.[/QUOTE]Natural selection at work. No mystery, really!
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1173856]Go to Pattaya and make some money from the fat, old and sometimes smelly foreigners that now live in Pattaya, patrol the beach road and who only pay 300 to 500 Baht for a fuck. It's pathetic and totally fucked up Pattaya. These women are the lowest of the low. Thai men don't even fuck them. No wonder it's getting so hard to find decent sexy looking girls in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]What's even more pathetic is guys are paying 2000ST for older girls with stretch marks from the gogo's. Now I know everybody has there preferences, but when guys pay high prices for low quality this starts to create a warped demand for a low quality girls which start to flow into the market place.
I'm not complaining, only making an observation. Pattaya can still be good, but you really got to understand how to hunt and that requires time and patience.
Many of the really hardcore mongers have moved away from Pattaya in the last few years. There is just far better value in other parts of the country if you're a seasoned monger.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1174101]Many of the really hardcore mongers have moved away from Pattaya in the last few years. There is just far better value in other parts of the country if you're a seasoned monger.[/QUOTE]And, where might these places of quality & value be?
[quote=sangkid;1173856]it's pathetic and totally fucked up pattaya. these women are the lowest of the low. thai men don't even fuck them. no wonder it's getting so hard to find decent sexy looking girls in pattaya. these girls are staying away because they are a few leagues above foreigners living here. the thais just about tolerate them but really think they are the lowest of the low. so there you have it. you have the lowest of the low thai girls fucking the lowest of the low foreigners.[/quote]i've been going to pattaya since 1978, were you even born yet sangkid? nothing is pathetic and nothing has totally fucked up pattaya. i was here before you were in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url]. pattaya is what it is and has been that for decades, a monger's paradise!
there still many beautiful and hot thai women in pattaya and not just a couple, but hundreds. please share what county you have been to that has more per square mile, i'll wait for you answer. i've made 6 trips from the us in the last 3 years. the only difference is there are a lot more nationalities than in recent years. before you jump on the amjeck bandwagon, do the fucking research for yourself. and if you don't like what is happening in pattaya, stay the fuck home and jack off.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1174120]And, where might these places of quality & value be?[/QUOTE]Yes, please help us uneducated mongers with your wisdom. After traveling to 30+ countries, I guess the best sucked in quality & value. Please enlighten our dumb asses.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1173822]But of the 100's of ladies on Beach Road there always seemed to be a handful of acceptable choices. You just have to be patient. If there are no acceptable choices just try again in an hour or two. I also found that you have a better chance of a GFE with the Pattaya ladies than with the Bangkok ladies.
SunLover[/QUOTE]I have been reading all the recent posts on 'Beach Road' with interest. I still maintain that it is (for me) the BEST value for money in Pattaya.
There is some truth in ALL the recent reports regarding quality of providers.
YES, there are some (many) horrible, over the hill, providers who should have been pensioned off years ago.
BUT, I have always been able to find at least one cutie there as a playmate to keep me more than happy, especially in the afternoons!
ALL of us Mongers enjoy different things Tall / Short. Younger / Older. Big Boobs / Small Ones. Dark Skin or Light! It is the VARIETY of availability that keeps us guys happy.
I believe that, with a bit of searching, there is something for everybody there. Also on Beach Road. There is plenty of chance to talk with the girls to see if there is some 'compatibility' (if that is important to you!)
AND, at 500 Baht a pop it is not so expensive.
I am NOT looking for a 'perfect 10! ' An enthusiastic 'girl next door' type' will do it for me.
OK, you can pay 2, 000/3, 000 Baht elsewhere BUT you still stand a chance of a 'dead starfish experience! '
Let's try to and agree that there are good and bad experiences to be had EVERYWHERE in Pattaya!
Enjoy it ALL. (I do!)
Hotman.
The Thai people's service mentality is well-known. That's why I was a bit astonished last night while walking around inside the Central Festival shopping mall fifteen minutes before closing time (11 p.m.).
Most shops looked closed (they had pulled down the "metal walls" halfway. What's the meaning of this, by the way?) and half had already closed. At 10.52 I entered a eyewear shop which looked open, but was told I had to leave. I can understand if it was 10.59 and I wanted to try every pair of glasses in the shop, but this? Very weird.
Do the shop owners know about this agree with this behavior?
I spoke to my Thai friend about Buddha weekend next Friday and Saturday. Apparently the alcohol lockdown won't be as severe as during the election weekend. Bars will be open as usual but clubs might be closed, he said.
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1174219]The Thai people's service mentality is well-known. That's why I was a bit astonished last night while walking around inside the Central Festival shopping mall fifteen minutes before closing time (11 pm).
Most shops looked closed (they had pulled down the "metal walls" halfway. What's the meaning of this, by the way?) and half had already closed. At 10. 52 I entered a eyewear shop which looked open, but was told I had to leave. I can understand if it was 10. 59 and I wanted to try every pair of glasses in the shop, but this? Very weird.
Do the shop owners know about this agree with this behavior?[/QUOTE]Down = Go Away.
Easy. At 135 Bt day (daily shopkeeper wage) and what a 12 hour shift, I wouldn't hang around either.
In western countries at western wages and super expensive mall rents with strict conditions, yes they stay open to a standard.
Their home life and family is more important than a 50bt T-shirt sale. Also safety in numbers. Someone has to take the days
Takings home. Leave a bit later on your own robbers or police. Well you are asking for it.
[quote=tomjackin; 1174192]i've been going to pattaya since 1978, were you even born yet sangkid? nothing is pathetic and nothing has totally fucked up pattaya. i was here before you were in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url]. pattaya is what it is and has been that for decades, a monger's paradise!
there still many beautiful and hot thai women in pattaya and not just a couple, but hundreds. please share what county you have been to that has more per square mile, i'll wait for you answer. i've made 6 trips from the us in the last 3 years. the only difference is there are a lot more nationalities than in recent years. before you jump on the amjeck bandwagon, do the fucking research for yourself. and if you don't like what is happening in pattaya, stay the fuck home and jack off.[/quote]my problem is that i like to fuck sexy, slim, beautiful young girls and you don't find these girls patrolling the beach road. in fact you don't find them anywhere in pattaya apart from the walking street. some years back i went through a stage of picking girls of the beach but i had three terrible experiences so i gave up. one was a drug addict; another just stank even after she showered and the third just lay there and did nothing. now i know i have to pay more in the walking street but i don't mind.
i think it is important for guys reading this forum, particularly young guys, to understand exactly how pattaya is. you have experience and you know the score. young guys coming to pattaya for the first time need to know where to find the young hot girls. they don't want to waste time searching the beach road and other areas where they won't find any young hot girls.
btw i'm not jumping on amjeck's bandwagon. just telling how it really is and i've been to and worked in loads of different countries.
as for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] in 1978. not quite. now relax and enjoy your screw-driver.
[QUOTE=Keeniu;1174247]Their home life and family is more important than a 50bt T-shirt sale. Also safety in numbers.[/QUOTE]Good luck finding a 50 Baht T-shirt at Central Festival.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1174255]By 10. 52 a. M they have had enough of farangs. Do you really think they are going to entertain you 10. 52 pm The last thing they want is some farang coming in at that time after working a 12 hour day.[/QUOTE]Why the attitude? I just thought it was weird for a high end shopping mall. Okay if it was a bazar.
[QUOTE=Keeniu;1174247]At 135 Bt day (daily shopkeeper wage) and what a 12 hour shift[/QUOTE]Mm, I read somewhere that a good position at a decent hotel, say reception manager, they earn 200 bahts a day.
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1174252]My problem is that I like to fuck sexy, slim, beautiful young girls and you don't find these girls patrolling the beach road. In fact you don't find them anywhere in Pattaya apart from the Walking Street.
Now relax and enjoy your screw-driver.[/QUOTE]I've never read any reports where someone was raving about sexy, slim, beautiful young girls patrolling the beach road. The Coconut Bar is what it is, all sizes, shapes, and tastes of women, for a good price. But I can't recall a report that someone found the beauty of his dreams hanging out on beach road.
And the sexy, slim, beautiful young girls that are on walking street, are usual going or coming from work from one of the go go clubs, or they are heading out to discos.
That being said, there are gems all over Pattaya, and they always don't jump out at you. Patience is everything in this hobby.
And thank you, and if I recall, it was a tasty screw-driver.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1174329]Mm, I read somewhere that a good position at a decent hotel, say reception manager, they earn 200 bahts a day.[/QUOTE]One of my non-pros just got promoted the other day from receptionist to assistant manager. She said she will be making 9, 000 baht / month. And my MILF high school teacher makes 30,000 baht/month.
There are always diamonds in the rough of Beach Road. Not at all times and not everyday but if you just keep your eye out one will appear. I never went there specifically looking but it's a nice stroll anyway on a not tooo hot a day and great at night.
I was only in Patts for a couple of weeks and loved every minute of it, hooked up everywhere from Gogos (fun to hang out in and drink but iffy service) to massage parlor meet at my place after work arangements. And my best experience of all was a Beach Road young lady (22) down from Bangkok for the weekend. She worked in a massage place that caters to Japanese and clients had completely dried up because of the Red Shirt craziness going on at the time.
She had literally just arrived and had her carry bag with her and I smiled as I walked by-she smiled back, I stopped, we chatted a bit and I invited her for a drink. She took my hand and off we went for drinks, dancing a bit to eat and a night and morning of super out of this world passionate sex. Money was never even discussed.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1174214]I believe that, with a bit of searching, there is something for everybody there. Also on Beach Road. There is plenty of chance to talk with the girls to see if there is some 'compatibility' (if that is important to you!)
AND, at 500 Baht a pop it is not so expensive.
I am NOT looking for a 'perfect 10! ' An enthusiastic 'girl next door' type' will do it for me.[/QUOTE]Agreed. For me attitude is twice as important as looks. Quantified it would look something like this:
(looks x 1) + (attitude x 2) /3 = overall rating.
So a 10 looks and 7 attitude lady would rate an 8.
And a 7 looks and 10 attitude lady would rate a 9.
I looked for a Beach Road SW lady who is smiling and giggling even before I engage her. If she is in a decent mood sitting there talking to her friends that is a good sign. I would also check out the legs and make sure they are not too beaten up. I also preferred shopping during the day because it was easier to judge appearances; plus it was my experience that the LB presence during the day was near zero.
SunLover
Next door to the famed [B]Devil's Den[/B] Is a new place called [B]Heavenly Inn[/B]. Has anybody [B]tried this place? [/B] They don't seem do have a webpage, but it looks like Devil's Den (girls sitting around a table outside). [B]Does the place operate like Devil's Den? Price? [/B]
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1174897]So on the beach road where the average looks are 2 to 4 do you add say 5 for attitude to justify taking them.[/QUOTE]Unless you pick your ladies with a blindfold on the average of Beach Road looks has nothing to do with it. IMO there is a handful of better looking ladies to be had. You just need to seek them out. And I have had some decent GFE's with them. YMMV.
SunLover
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1174602]Next door to the famed [B]Devil's Den[/B] Is a new place called [B]Heavenly Inn[/B]. Has anybody [B]tried this place? [/B] They don't seem do have a webpage, but it looks like Devil's Den (girls sitting around a table outside). [B]Does the place operate like Devil's Den? Price? [/B][/QUOTE]It's a part of the DD establishment. It's just were they have the rooms. If you pay by card at DD it will appear on your statement as Heaven Inn
When I was in Pattaya last time, six months ago, I really enjoyed the Happy gogo bar on Walking Street. So now when I returned to Pattaya I naturally went back there. I took a quick walk around the stage and noticed that all the girls looked plain, so I left straight away without sitting down.
The next night I thought I would give the place a new chance. Maybe the decent looking girls had already been barfined yesterday? However, at the door the doorman held up a sign with some Thai characters and "200 baht", which I interpreted as meaning the place was full so I have to pay entry. Needless to say, I didn't go in.
The third day, I went back and was again met by the 200-baht sign, which I thought was weird since it was quite early in the evening, maybe 9. 30.
After more than a week without going to Walking Street I returned and thought I would give Happy a last chance. This time I was let in without a problem and, as usual, I walked quickly around the stage to see if there were any good looking girls, but unfortunately all of them were very plain looking.
Now is when things got really weird. When I move towards the exit a doorman gives me a slight shoulder tackle and says something angrily. I try to open the exit door but he has locked me in. The doorman starts shouting at me, and motions me outside, unlocks the door, lets me out and continues his rant outside the door.
"Next time you pay 200 baht looking fee!", he shouts at me furiously and tries to look intimidating.
Aha! So that's why he held up the sign the previous times, I thought. He had recognized me and was angry for something which I thought was a totally acceptable behaviour. He thought I just went in to steal a free glance, whereas I always want to see what the girls look like before I sit down and order a drink. I have always thought it was okay to walk around the stage quickly and then leave (I have never seen a negative reaction to this before) , but when I think about it, most other punters don't do that. They just go in and sit down and order a drink, regardless of what the girls look like.
What is your opinion on all this? Are you obliged to buy at least one drink if you enter a gogo, or is it okay to leave after 30 seconds if you don't like what you see on stage?
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1175177]When I was in Pattaya last time, six months ago, I really enjoyed the Happy gogo bar on Walking Street. So now when I returned to Pattaya I naturally went back there. I took a quick walk around the stage and noticed that all the girls looked plain, so I left straight away without sitting down.
The next night I thought I would give the place a new chance. Maybe the decent looking girls had already been barfined yesterday? However, at the door the doorman held up a sign with some Thai characters and "200 baht", which I interpreted as meaning the place was full so I have to pay entry. Needless to say, I didn't go in.
The third day, I went back and was again met by the 200-baht sign, which I thought was weird since it was quite early in the evening, maybe 9. 30.
After more than a week without going to Walking Street I returned and thought I would give Happy a last chance. This time I was let in without a problem and, as usual, I walked quickly around the stage to see if there were any good looking girls, but unfortunately all of them were very plain looking.
Now is when things got really weird. When I move towards the exit a doorman gives me a slight shoulder tackle and says something angrily. I try to open the exit door but he has locked me in. The doorman starts shouting at me, and motions me outside, unlocks the door, lets me out and continues his rant outside the door.
"Next time you pay 200 baht looking fee!", he shouts at me furiously and tries to look intimidating.
Aha! So that's why he held up the sign the previous times, I thought. He had recognized me and was angry for something which I thought was a totally acceptable behaviour. He thought I just went in to steal a free glance, whereas I always want to see what the girls look like before I sit down and order a drink. I have always thought it was okay to walk around the stage quickly and then leave (I have never seen a negative reaction to this before) , but when I think about it, most other punters don't do that. They just go in and sit down and order a drink, regardless of what the girls look like.
What is your opinion on all this? Are you obliged to buy at least one drink if you enter a gogo, or is it okay to leave after 30 seconds if you don't like what you see on stage?[/QUOTE]I don't think you should be required to pay a fee; however, I think it is polite to but a drink if you go inside. The price is cheap enough. When I go in I may get something cheap and then do a walk around before they bring it to the location I plan on sitting down at. I will normally walk around right from the get go. Additionally if I like it then I may order a few drinks there. If I don't then I leave (Sometimes without finishing the drink, just to avoid too many ladies coming up to me when I am not interested). I think its just being polite. Most strip clubs have an entrance fee in most countries. Going into a place, the least you can do is buy a drink.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1175177]...What is your opinion on all this? Are you obliged to buy at least one drink if you enter a gogo, or is it okay to leave after 30 seconds if you don't like what you see on stage?[/QUOTE]I'm a frequent customer of Happy. I've seen Japanese, Korean, and Farang customers come in, walk around the stage, and then leave many times without any interference from the doorman.
I've never heard of such a thing as you describe in any Walking Street go-go bar, but I have seen them turn away Indian and Arab customers before they can get through the door. If you meet that description it might explain why they treated you that way.
[quote=daddy07; 1175240]i'm a frequent customer of happy. i've seen japanese, korean, and farang customers come in, walk around the stage, and then leave many times without any interference from the doorman.
i've never heard of such a thing as you describe in any walking street go-go bar, but i have seen them turn away indian and arab customers before they can get through the door. if you meet that description it might explain why they treated you that way.[/quote]i am north european (fair skinned and fair haired) and not too scruffy looking.
by the way, i forgot to say, i did get the 200-baht sign a couple of times six months ago, but then it was late at night som i assumed they were full.
so, apparently the sign says "looking fee 200 baht" (because this is what the angry doorman said). why not write "looking fee" in english so people understand? and morevoer, since 200 baht is twice the price of a drink. would would pay the looking fee instead of a drink? i think what he means with the sign is "i recognize you and know you sometimes just take a quick peek and then leave. this annoys me. if you do this again you have to pay 200 baht when leaving".
this brings me to another question. thais in general don't read and write the roman (falang) alphabet, do they? they don't really have any real use of it, compared to learning english phrases phonetically, which they really have use of. same as us falangs. we learn som thai phrases, but learning their alphabet is a bit of a stretch for most of us.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1175177]I have always thought it was okay to walk around the stage quickly and then leave (I have never seen a negative reaction to this before) , but when I think about it, most other punters don't do that. They just go in and sit down and order a drink, regardless of what the girls look like.[/QUOTE]Not true, I scope out clubs all the time to see if anything catches my eyes before I decide to stay and I see many others doing the same thing but what is it about Happy that made you keep going back even after you said the girls looked so plain. There are so many other bars in town that this should not even be an issue for you. Surely you won't visit them again, will you?
[QUOTE=Jon1283;1175221]I think its just being polite. Most strip clubs have an entrance fee in most countries. Going into a place, the least you can do is buy a drink.[/QUOTE]Well, I always try to be polite when scanning the place, smiling and greeting everyone in Thai. But how am I supposed to know I am obliged to buy a drink if I go inside, even if the place is horrible? And talking of polite, how polite was the doorman to me?
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1175253]Not true, I scope out clubs all the time to see if anything catches my eyes before I decide to stay and I see many others doing the same thing[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "not true"? I wrote that most people who enter a club tend to sit down more or less where they are told, without first walking around the club's stage and scoping the talent, like you and me.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1175253]what is it about Happy that made you keep going back even after you said the girls looked so plain.[/QUOTE]I have already explained why: "The next night I thought I would give the place a new chance. Maybe the decent looking girls had already been barfined yesterday?"
If you have had a bargirl for LT (for which I usually pay them 1 000 baht) and wish to keep your bargirl over the next day, meaning from breakfast till the early evening, how much will the girl generally want for this (apart from you naturally paying for her expenses during the day)?
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1174592]Agreed. For me attitude is twice as important as looks. Quantified it would look something like this:
(looks x 1) + (attitude x 2) /3 = overall rating.
So a 10 looks and 7 attitude lady would rate an 8.
And a 7 looks and 10 attitude lady would rate a 9.
SunLover[/QUOTE]Just had a 15.
Looks 9 plus attitude 3 plus pussy smell 3 equals 15. We had a great time. Drinks, food and then to bed. Yes I had to pay a Go-Go Bar Fine and more than the 50 Baht Beach Road price but this is what I like and don't mind doing for a sexy young girl with great attitude and great smelling pussy.
[QUOTE=Stakeout; 1175177]When I was in Pattaya last time, six months ago, I really enjoyed the Happy gogo bar on Walking Street. So now when I returned to Pattaya I naturally went back there. I took a quick walk around the stage and noticed that all the girls looked plain, so I left straight away without sitting down.
The next night I thought I would give the place a new chance. Maybe the decent looking girls had already been barfined yesterday? However, at the door the doorman held up a sign with some Thai characters and "200 baht", which I interpreted as meaning the place was full so I have to pay entry. Needless to say, I didn't go in.
The third day, I went back and was again met by the 200-baht sign, which I thought was weird since it was quite early in the evening, maybe 9. 30.
After more than a week without going to Walking Street I returned and thought I would give Happy a last chance. This time I was let in without a problem and, as usual, I walked quickly around the stage to see if there were any good looking girls, but unfortunately all of them were very plain looking.
What is your opinion on all this? Are you obliged to buy at least one drink if you enter a gogo, or is it okay to leave after 30 seconds if you don't like what you see on stage?[/QUOTE]I think it is the frequency of your visits that pissed him off (he could have been having a bad day or week as well) Remember where you are talking about, they will always try to invent new ways to separate you from your money. When I am on holiday, I try to keep a low profile and would not go back to a place that is so confrontational. There are many other places that deserve your business.
Can any experienced mongers comment of the quality of talent in the bars and / or go-gos that are not located in the touristy parts of Pattaya? I found this post about bars in an area past Sukhumvit. Please read the complete post FIRST.
[blue][i]<<Welcome to the 'Dark Side' Most people visiting Pattaya will more than likely have heard of Pattaya's 'Dark Side' but, for those new to Pattaya and for those who haven't let me explain what, and where the 'Dark Side' is.
People going on holiday / vacation to Pattaya, Thailand will have no doubt heard of its vibrant colorful nightlife, or to put it another way 'sex industry' and if that's what you are looking for in a holiday / vacation then Pattaya is the place to be, where even the oldest codger can feel young again. Providing he has money in his pockets that is!
Although the main beer bar complex's, 'Entertainment zones' are found between Pattaya's beach road and second road, more and more are opening further a field. Soi Bhukhoa (Bukow) and Soi LK Metro are only a short walk away from Pattaya beach and are becoming more popular with first time visitors and expats a like.
All of Pattaya's beer bar complexes are with in walking distance or can be reached by Baht bus in a matter of minutes. However if you do not fancy doing your 'courting' under the bright lights and load music of Pattaya City or, are just looking for something different then why not venture out to Pattaya's 'Dark Side' A part from money don't forget to take a towel and your swimming trunks! Even if it is 10PM.
Firstly let me dispel the rumors. Pattaya's 'Dark Side' has nothing to do with it being a place where you will have to go to to find 'gay men' or 'ladyboy's' A visit to Pattaya's 'Dark Side' does not mean you are gay or 'experimental' Yes, gay men and ladyboy's can be found in the 'Dark Side' but there again they can be found everywhere in Pattaya. Neither does the 'Dark Side' have any thing to do with 'Star Wars' and Darth Vader, So, I would not suggest taking the children!
Pattaya's 'Dark Side' is simply a common name given to the area east of the Sukhumvit road and the train tracks that lie just beyond it. The 'Dark Side'. A large area of Pattaya that is mainly without street lighting. The area is very popular with expats as you will see by the number of gated / secure housing complexes. Land prices and therefore rents are considerably cheaper in the 'Dark Side' Also, living on the 'Dark Side' means having to drive in to Pattaya. A bit like going out on a Saturday night in your country, it's nice to make the effort every now and then. The 'Dark Side' is relatively a haven of piece and tranquility on the edge of insanity!
Where there is housing, there are people, and where there are people in Pattaya, there are going to be beer bars, and beer bars employ bar girls or hostesses. There are more than fifty beer bars in the area known as the "Dark Side" nearly all of them have 'short time rooms' Where you may take your "new girlfriend" for some horizontal exercise for a small fee. Some of the beer bars even have 'swimming pools' too. Having never been in to one of these establishments? I will have to leave it to your imagination has to what happens in this type of beer bar.
For a really great night out, get together with your friends, hire a Baht bus for the evening and do some exploring in the beer bars of Pattaya's 'Dark Side'
Popular beer bar areas are Soi Nernplabwan, Soi Crocodial, Soi Khao Noi, Soi Khao Talo, Soi Siam Country Club.>>[/blue][/i]
I am also looking for recommended places to visit in Naklua and Jontiem. Or should I not even bother = stick to South Pattaya because it is all the "Same Same"? I will be there during high season, first week of December. Last time I was in Pattaya was 2008.
[quote=sangkid; 1175296]rubbish. i never enter a club and never buy a drink. from time to time i do see some idiots, scoping out clubs, walking around like they think they know it all and expecting girls to fall at their feet. maybe even seen you. do you get away with it in your own country?
bars change from week to week. girls change. managers change etc. etc. what's good one week can be bad the next week and vice versa. that's the way it is so why shouldn't he keep going back to happy.[/quote]i don't see anything wrong with going into a club and having a quick look around to decide whether you like the ambience, the layout, the number of girls, the noise level, etc etc. probably most of the time you can get that from a peek around the curtain, but a quick look around shouldn't be a problem to the management. why should it?
never been to a strip bar in my country, but plenty of times i've walked into a pub then decided i didn't like it and walked out. what's the big deal?
if you walked into a club and there were 2 ugly girls. 50 punters and no seats, would you stay? of course not.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1175250]This brings me to another question. Thais in general don't read and write the Roman (Falang) alphabet, do they? They don't really have any real use of it, compared to learning English phrases phonetically, which they really have use of. Same as us falangs. We learn som Thai phrases, but learning their alphabet is a bit of a stretch for most of us.[/QUOTE]There are four parts to literacy: reading, writing, listening, and speaking. I would not say there is an "in general" as far as your question is concerned. I would say it depends on how far the paticular person went in school. Most Thais who speak English learn it as a second language in public school. And the first thing you are taught when you learn a foreign language is the alphabet for that language. Then there are the other Thais who will have learned English informally and on the fly. This includes some taxi drivers, street corner salespeople, and such. They are able to speak minimally, and listen for understanding when you speak slowly and clearly, but maybe not read or write. Anyway, I have noticed that the people who speak basic English and above are able to read and write it, so they do in fact have use for the Roman alphabet.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1175267]If you have had a bargirl for LT (for which I usually pay them 1 000 baht) and wish to keep your bargirl over the next day, meaning from breakfast till the early evening, how much will the girl generally want for this (apart from you naturally paying for her expenses during the day)?[/QUOTE]I've had tonnes of luck getting extra time by saying I want the girl to stay. Offer food etc and say that you will go to the bar and pay tomorrows barfine right away. This happens before the bar is opened so no need for lady drinks etc. Or on other occations I've had girls say that common phrase around the extra tip."Up to you". In that case it's up to you and you may get a little puppy dog sad face if your tip is light but whatever you think is right is the right answer.
Paying the next day bf is the way I go often but your YMMV.
Crusty
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1175250]This brings me to another question. Thais in general don't read and write the Roman (Falang) alphabet, do they? They don't really have any real use of it, compared to learning English phrases phonetically, which they really have use of.[/QUOTE]The great majority do: at least the alphabet and sometimes a few words of English are taught in most schools (though usually poorly). Knowing just these basics and with a pecuniary incentive they typically pick up a lot very quickly in Pattaya. In fact they do have a lot of uses for it, such as exchanging SMS with foreigners, using the internet, etc.
Here's an example of an SMS I just received:
[i]"Hello, tilak (my name misspelled drastically) are you ok? Good sleep ok and hope you want to see me and want to fuck my ass again tonight ok(her name) sexzy ass."[/i]
[quote=stakeout; 1175250]by the way, i forgot to say, i did get the 200-baht sign a couple of times six months ago, but then it was late at night som i assumed they were full.
so, apparently the sign says "looking fee 200 baht"[/quote]this is funny. typically the door girls are trying to drag you in, not you trying to sneak a peek. just to be safe you could say before walking in to a bar,"is there a cover fee?" or "i will just take a look, ok?" then if anyone tries to pull a "looking fee" on you just say,"no thank you. i don't pay looking fees. if i like the way the girls look i will have a drink and stay." and then walk away. vote with your feet.
[quote=mouse1; 1175383]i don't see anything wrong with going into a club and having a quick look around to decide whether you like the ambience, the layout, the number of girls, the noise level, etc etc. probably most of the time you can get that from a peek around the curtain, but a quick look around shouldn't be a problem to the management. why should it?
never been to a strip bar in my country, but plenty of times i've walked into a pub then decided i didn't like it and walked out. what's the big deal?
if you walked into a club and there were 2 ugly girls. 50 punters and no seats, would you stay? of course not.[/quote]this is an excellent point; however, the buisness here is not really the alcohol. at a bar the primary purpose of the owner is to sell alcohol to make money, likewise, the purpose of these establishments are to entice gentlemen to barfine the girls, the alcohol helps do that and makes the owners money at the same time. if you choose not to drink at a bar where you are from its because there is no space or not the adequate environement, usually not because they don't have a drink that you want. at these bars you trying to get a taste of the merchandise for free. you are shopping for the girls (which is the primary purpose of these establishments) without contributing to the owner of that establishment (buying one cheap drink that cost you a couple bucks). i have walked in and saw there was no place to sit and walk out just passing the curtain on the establishment. by doing a walk around you are looking at the goods without contributing to the buisness.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1175254]Well, I always try to be polite when scanning the place, smiling and greeting everyone in Thai. But how am I supposed to know I am obliged to buy a drink if I go inside, even if the place is horrible? And talking of polite, how polite was the doorman to me?[/QUOTE]You are right. The doorman was not polite to you. That is ignorance thought. Unless you can freely communicate in Thai. He is doing the best he can to communicate in English with you. You can not have the same expectations as far as courtseys go from a third world country. They were not raised the same way you were. Money is what drives this country. Your actions are actions that are perceived as disrespectful to this man or this establishment. A 55 baht or even a 90 baht drink is a small price to pay to keep good relations with a establisment that you may frequent again. If you choose not to frequent this establisment again then don't worry about buying the drink. But if you may want to then it's just a good policy or courtesey to buy a reasonably cheap drink even if you don't drink it. I order water or a cheap beer and sometimes don't drink it just to get a good look at the place.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1173856]Been here long enough to understand a few reasons why Pattaya has become such a popular location for older women, mothers and well-worn pros. This is the only place that they can get fucked and make a very small amount of money. The message must have been sent to all ugly women in Thailand. Go to Pattaya and make some money from the fat, old and sometimes smelly foreigners that now live in Pattaya, patrol the beach road and who only pay 300 to 500 Baht for a fuck. It's pathetic and totally fucked up Pattaya. These women are the lowest of the low. Thai men don't even fuck them. No wonder it's getting so hard to find decent sexy looking girls in Pattaya. These girls are staying away because they are a few leagues above foreigners living here. Why would they work in Pattaya where they have to deal with these people? The cheap rabbit like condos that have sprung up everywhere don't help. Foreigners buy these 25 square meter hutches and actually live in them. They drink excessive amounts of alcohol every day which helps give them the down and out pathetic appearance. The Thais just about tolerate them but really think they are the lowest of the low. So there you have it. You have the lowest of the low Thai girls fucking the lowest of the low foreigners.[/QUOTE]SO different for what the scene was 7 years ago. I quickly came back to Bangkok after the first 2 days instead of the 4 days planned.
Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1175630]Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Best service available is the Limo Pattaya. Google it for email and phone number. I have used them for years and never a probelm.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1175630]Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I've never taken a taxi to Pattaya but I found this secret website [url]http://www.google.com[/url] And entered the phrase 'taxi service to Pattaya'. They provided quite a few links.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1175630]Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I use a driver from Nana Transport, his name is Amuay, pm me for the mobile number.
Others have used this service:
[url]http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/url]
When are you going? Because I'll be there in a little over a week. Soi 6 crawl?
[QUOTE=Almotu;1175340]When I am on holiday, I try to keep a low profile and would not go back to a place that is so confrontational. There are many other places that deserve your business.[/QUOTE]I will naturally not return to Happy. Just thought I would share my experience, discuss what the etiquette is when entering a club and the weird 200-baht sign the doorman at Happy uses.
[QUOTE=Mouse1;1175383]a quick look around shouldn't be a problem to the management. Why should it?[/QUOTE]The doorman's opinion was that you are not aloud to look for free.
[quote=tomjackin; 1175724]i use a driver from nana transport, his name is amuay, pm me for the mobile number.
others have used this service:
[url]http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/url]
when are you going? because i'll be there in a little over a week. soi 6 crawl?[/quote]i always use them. on every trip, they meet me, wait for my girlfriend to arrive 45 minutes later, carry my bags to the car, drive at a good speed, not killer fast, but not slow. they will stop at the rest area on the motorway if you ask when they start. you can get anything there from a slurpy to kfc.
when i went back to bangkok, i just called in the morning at 8 and i had a car waiting at my hotel at 9:30. he took me to my hotel in bangkok, with a stop for an egg mac muffin at the rest stop. i can't say enough good things about them. they charge 1000 bt to pattaya and pay the tolls and garage fee. i always tip a couple hundred bt, because we all want to live a good life, including the driver.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1175745]...you are not aloud to look for free.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they want to keep the noise down...
[QUOTE=Gaolei;1175749]I always tip a couple hundred Bt, because we all want to live a good life, including the driver.[/QUOTE]The price police will not jump on you as this is not a girl price. Anyhow I perfectly agree in tipping abit for the said reasons
[QUOTE=Gwailo; 1175687]I've never taken a taxi to Pattaya but I found this secret website.
[url]http://www.google.com[/url]
And entered the phrase 'taxi service to Pattaya'. They provided quite a few links.
Good luck![/QUOTE]It would be so easy to just call you an asshole.
[QUOTE=Bigce;1175638]Best service available is the Limo Pattaya. Google it for email and phone number. I have used them for years and never a probelm.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I just got a response from them. I think they're quoting 2400 bht for round-trip. Only question I have out there is if they offer beverage service of any kind. They don't take any CC info, payment is cash, which I have no ploblem with. What would a regular taxi cost from the airport to Pattaya?
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1175724]I use a driver from Nana Transport, his name is Amuay, pm me for the mobile number.
Others have used this service:
[url]http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/url]
When are you going? Because I'll be there in a little over a week. Soi 6 crawl?[/QUOTE]Appreciate the offer. Do not arrive until 9/3/11. Enjoy your trip!
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1175831]Thanks for the info. I just got a response from them. I think they're quoting 2400 bht for round-trip. Only question I have out there is if they offer beverage service of any kind. They don't take any CC info, payment is cash, which I have no ploblem with. What would a regular taxi cost from the airport to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Normally around 1500 up to PAttaya and 1200 from Pattaya to Bangkok. There is some room for negotiations. 2400 round-trip is a good deal.
[quote=gaolei; 1175749]i always use them. on every trip, they meet me, wait for my girlfriend to arrive 45 minutes later, carry my bags to the car, drive at a good speed, not killer fast, but not slow. they will stop at the rest area on the motorway if you ask when they start. you can get anything there from a slurpy to kfc.
when i went back to bangkok, i just called in the morning at 8 and i had a car waiting at my hotel at 9:30. he took me to my hotel in bangkok, with a stop for an egg mac muffin at the rest stop. i can't say enough good things about them. they charge 1000 bt to pattaya and pay the tolls and garage fee. i always tip a couple hundred bt, because we all want to live a good life, including the driver.[/quote]i am using them this week as well. i normally want to get there sooner and spend less time in the vehicle so i usually try to get them to go faster. i ask them how long it will take and normally try to get there between 15 and 30 minutes before depending on the time they quote. i then offer to tip them good if they can get me there by (enter a specific time, normally based on the time they quoted minus 15-30 minutes.
I have a lot of extra time this upcoming trip and would like to make 2-3 Soi 6 bar crawls. In the last couple of years, I've only been to Red Point and Lisa Bar.
So I'm looking for some serious feedback on the seediest and down & dirty bars on Soi 6. Your favorite and why would be a great help as well.
Please, no Pook, Hi Boss, or So What Bar suggestions.
If you are around, I'll buy a few!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1175857]I have a lot of extra time this upcoming trip and would like to make 2-3 Soi 6 bar crawls. In the last couple of years, I've only been to Red Point and Lisa Bar.
So I'm looking for some serious feedback on the seediest and down & dirty bars on Soi 6. Your favorite and why would be a great help as well.
Please, no Pook, Hi Boss, or So What Bar suggestions.
If you are around, I'll buy a few![/QUOTE]Hey Tom;
First I all I want to admit that the following recommendations come from experiences going back a few years, so of course things may have changed. You mention Red Point and that has been my favorite overall thanks to Dao. I once had a great 3some at the King Kong bar, very memorable. Did some takeout from the Mandarin bar, with some good results.
Sleeziest overall experience was in the My Friend You bar, where I would have done well to have a look at the young lady in the daylight first before taking her upstairs. Her service was over the top, but I needed to keep my eyes closed at times due to some aesthetic marginality on her part.
Cheers;
Raz
[QUOTE=Tomjackin; 1175857]So I'm looking for some serious feedback on the seediest and down & dirty bars on Soi 6. Your favorite and why would be a great help as well.
Please, no Pook, Hi Boss, or So What Bar suggestions.[/QUOTE]I've enjoyed a great time at Saigon Bar and Chilli Bar. Can't remember the girls names though. Both girls gave good BJ's and offered CIM. No extra charge.
Paid 300 for the room, and 700 for the girl.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1175630]Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I have used Bell Travel Service and they have been super. Very efficient and professional. Their normal service is a shared service, but if you contact them I believe they do have private cars and vans available:
[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/[/url]
SunLover
Bell travel is perfect. They take you to Pattaya station from wer you get a van to hotel. All inclusive in price. Guess around 200 thb one way, trip takes more or less same taxi drive. But check with them via email. Then if you want sumting upscale & really posh go for the Penthouse limo!
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1175972]I have used Bell Travel Service and they have been super. Very efficient and professional. Their normal service is a shared service, but if you contact them I believe they do have private cars and vans available:
[url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/[/url]
SunLover[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jon1283;1175836]Normally around 1500 up to PAttaya and 1200 from Pattaya to Bangkok. There is some room for negotiations. 2400 round-trip is a good deal.[/QUOTE]It's actually a bit cheaper; 1200 on arrival to Pattyaya and 1000 for the return trip, water provided.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1176009]It's actually a bit cheaper; 1200 on arrival to Pattyaya and 1000 for the return trip, water provided.[/QUOTE]I am including the price for tolls in my figures. But you are correct in that it is a bit cheaper.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1175831]Thanks for the info. I just got a response from them. I think they're quoting 2400 bht for round-trip. Only question I have out there is if they offer beverage service of any kind. They don't take any CC info, payment is cash, which I have no ploblem with. What would a regular taxi cost from the airport to Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Dude, the ride is only 1 hour and 15 minutes and you need a beverage service? Pick up some water out of Family Mart in the airport for 7 baht and keep going. Usually a taxi from BKK airport to Pattaya is 1000 baht + 60 baht tolls. People will try to get you for 1300. Since I started speaking a little Thai I have been getting them for 900 all in by jokingly telling them I am Thai while showing my Thai drivers license, and saying the numbers in Thai.
I say: Pattaya tao rai khrap?
They say: One thousand three hundred baht.
I say: (raising voice) MAI DAI! (can not) Bad roi, na? (800, right?)
They say: Neung pun (1000).
I say: Gao roi thuk yang, pah! (900 everything, let's go)
They say: Pah. (let's go) and get out of the car to open the trunk.
From Pattaya to the airport it is 800 baht + 60 baht tolls. If you flight arrives between 7am & 5pm you can take the bus (http://www.belltravelservice.com/) that will take you right to your hotel for 200 baht. Likewise if your flight departs between 12pm and after (last bus from Pattaya at 5pm) you can use this option as well.
Guys,
I'm planning on visiting Pattaya in October 2011. I last visited 5 years ago and prices were around 1000-1500 for LT. Can anyone advise on what the prices and quality is like these days? I realise prices are up, the same hotel I used is even up by 35%.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1175857]So I'm looking for some serious feedback on the seediest and down & dirty bars on Soi 6.[/QUOTE]In late June I had a fair time with a girl at a short-time place called Sexy in the City, which had a couple of lookers. The price was 700 baht for the girl. 300 for the room, one hour. Regret to say that I forgot her name, but her getup was that she was wearing a baseball hat. 23 years old (wouldn't know that she had a child) , fabulous smile and amazingly pearly white teeth. BUUUUT be warned about this place, and perhaps much of Soi 6, and that is bars that mix real girls and LBs. As we chatted inside the bar (all of the available girls were touting out front, as seems to be the custom on Soi 6).
While chatting with the girl I suggested that there was another girl outside who looked great and might make a good threesome partner. So my girl exited and summoned a completely different, um. Thing. A LB hopped up on meth. The LB gave the girl (fortunately not me) a rough slap on the shoulder when I immediately sent him on his way, to which my friend just laughed. Within a couple minutes, the true object of my affection entered the bar on the arms of another punter. Oh well.
Upstairs, the room was fairly clean and the sex standard but enjoyable enough that I considered meeting the girl for dancing later on. But by 2 a. M. I was pretty tired, so didn't show. I did remark to the girl that she was exceptionally attractive and could make more money working at a Walking Street gogo. Her reply was something to the effect that she thought that dancing topless was disgusting. Go figure.
I have not posted on that Patts trip but have come to the personal conclusion that hiring the girls for overnight was in general a waste. Now this is true the world over, unless you say, snag a semipro Filipina in Hong Kong, but unless you are a vampire and go to sleep at 9 a. M, you will be in nothing but bother. Only one in three of my LTs (barfines from Walking Street gogos) worked out as agreed (boom boom, sleep, wake and boom boom, breakfast and bye-bye) , and this was a 28 year old from Cassynovy who was all over me like I was a rock star. A hostess from Cave Bar as well as a girl from Super Baby were true pains in the ass. The Super Baby girl had wanted me to pay upfront in the bar, which I wisely refused. Back at the hotel she watched TV while I slept. At the time of my constitutionally provided boom boom she refused and said that I pounded her too long the night before, about the same time she insisted that I buy her food from room service. As a breakfast buffet for two was part of my hotel, I informed her that I would not be spending extra money but that she could join me for breakfast. She refused, so I sent her packing with the ST fee of 2000 baht, far too generous in retrospect.
That was my last piece in Thailand. Fortunately, a couple hours before barfining the Super Baby girl I had mind-blowing sex upstairs at Nui's Club on Walking Street. Mam, short orange-ish hair. 26 or so. I pleasured her with DATY that triggered multiple orgasms. Made her VERY happy, and she repaid the favor. I went through the checklist positions and as I got into position for the agreed-upon CIM, I exploded with a porn-flick quality showing (hair, eyes, poooor girl). Her response was to laugh with hilarity. A real sweetheart!
Soooo, the long story is that short seems to be a better option in Patts, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1175965]I know seedy and dirty is appealing but when you add ugly to the mix is it still appealing?[/QUOTE]There's more ugly on Soi 6 now for sure, and more fat too. But if you're willing to keep trolling up and down the soi (though it does get a little embarrassing) sooner or later you can usually find something nice. And if not, well, just walk up Saai 2 to the soapies.
Red Point has declined sharply in the last year or two. And there's an especially nasty mama-san behind the bar who likes to insult farang in Thai, assuming they won't understand. Last time I told her exactly what I thought of that, and haven't been back since.
For consistent down-and-out sleaze, it's hard to beat My Friend You these days. But there's a reason they keep those rooms so dark.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1175958]Did they have a good attitude. Say 5 for attitude and 2 for looks?[/QUOTE]Rating from 1 to 10.
The girls that I took, were about 7 for looks. 9 for the body, and attitude was 10.
They gave me a great time. No hassles about buying them a drink.
I chose them while they were sitting outside, I bought myself a drink, had a nice grope with them.
Then agreed to take them upstairs.
Nice shower together, with BJ in shower.
Then back to the bed, for another BJ, and good sex. No rush.
The nice thing about Saigon girls, is that they try to dress up each day in a different outfit.
Eg. Nurse, devil, etc.
[QUOTE=MongerKing; 1176072]Guys,
I'm planning on visiting Pattaya in October 2011. I last visited 5 years ago and prices were around 1000-1500 for LT. Can anyone advise on what the prices and quality is like these days? I realise prices are up, the same hotel I used is even up by 35.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Surprisingly prices for girls have not changed much at all.
While I was there I have paid 1000, 1500 & 2000 for long time. Depends on the girl.
But short time has always been around 1000, if the girls are from a beer bar or from a disco.
[QUOTE=Betong; 1176263]There's more ugly on Soi 6 now for sure, and more fat too. But if you're willing to keep trolling up and down the soi (though it does get a little embarrassing) sooner or later you can usually find something nice. And if not, well, just walk up Saai 2 to the soapies.
Red Point has declined sharply in the last year or two. And there's an especially nasty mama-san behind the bar who likes to insult farang in Thai, assuming they won't understand. Last time I told her exactly what I thought of that, and haven't been back since.
For consistent down-and-out sleaze, it's hard to beat My Friend You these days. But there's a reason they keep those rooms so dark.[/QUOTE]I agree, but they have now nice rooms (with) shower on the first floor. And you can afterwards sit outside and watch the movement, until you are ready for another go with another girl.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1176044]Dude, the ride is only 1 hour and 15 minutes and you need a beverage service? Pick up some water out of Family Mart in the airport for 7 baht and keep going. Usually a taxi from BKK airport to Pattaya is 1000 baht + 60 baht tolls. People will try to get you for 1300. Since I started speaking a little Thai I have been getting them for 900 all in by jokingly telling them I am Thai while showing my Thai drivers license, and saying the numbers in Thai.
I say: Pattaya tao rai khrap?
They say: One thousand three hundred baht.
I say: (raising voice) MAI DAI! (can not) Bad roi, na? (800, right?)
They say: Neung pun (1000).
I say: Gao roi thuk yang, pah! (900 everything, let's go)
They say: Pah. (let's go) and get out of the car to open the trunk.
From Pattaya to the airport it is 800 baht + 60 baht tolls. If you flight arrives between 7am & 5pm you can take the bus ([url]http://www.belltravelservice.com/[/url]) that will take you right to your hotel for 200 baht. Likewise if your flight departs between 12pm and after (last bus from Pattaya at 5pm) you can use this option as well.[/QUOTE]Thanks, then I don't feel bad taking a limo and riding in a little comfort for 1200 baht to, and 1000 baht back to the airport. No way I'm going to take a bus after that flight.
I just finished my first trip to Pattaya after more than 5 years. I regularly get to Bangkok, but not Pattaya. My impression based on a couple of trips in 2004-2005 was I felt gawked at by eco tourists and thought that the bars were more about shows and spectacles catering to regular tourists and not really about hooking up with the ladies (mainly into Walking Street).
I don't know if I changed or Pattaya changed, but I can't articulate how much better Pattaya is now than my old memories of it. The whole thing is just tearing apart at the seams with beautiful ladies, and I couldn't believe how many ladies I found exactly like I like them. Although I remembered from before the bars being mainly about shows, this time when specifically seeking out that type of bar (such as when bar-hopping with a lady) , we couldn't even find such a bar (except Angelwitch). There are no longer hordes of giggling girls from Singapore in the bars just watching the shows. Also much fewer Japanese guys compared to Bangkok. The best bar (best quality ladies) was Baccara although unfortunately I got too drunk and made a fool of myself there and pretty much drove away all of the ladies, in that particular bar. I hope they have a high turnover rate and don't remember me when I come back.
In comparison to Pattaya, my long-time favorite city Bangkok now seems pretty dull. I can hardly even imagine going back there now. The funny thing is with the traffic congestion in Bangkok, it doesn't take that much longer to get from Suvarabhumi to Pattaya compared to Sukhumvit area of Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1176400]Thanks, then I don't feel bad taking a limo and riding in a little comfort for 1200 baht to, and 1000 baht back to the airport. No way I'm going to take a bus after that flight.[/QUOTE]Just remember when they say limo they are not talking in the western sense of the word. A limo would be considered a normal car (generally Volvo) that is not marked as a taxi. I don't blame you about the bus, going anyway, because you will be so excited to get there. I only take the bus to and from the airport when doing a flight to / from The Philippines or inside of Thailand. Otherwise, my flight to / from the USA is out of the bus operating hours anyway. Also, if your flight arrives an hour and a half or more before the bus is due to leave then I would just go ahead and do the taxi because again you will be excited to get there and won't feel like waiting around. Believe it or not though it takes the same amount of time whether by car or bus. I have timed it several times.
Does anyone know if Areca Lodge is girl friendly? Is there a fee? Thanks. I've read conflicting report. Oh, and do you like it? I'm interested in something in the moderate range that has a pool.
Thanks
Club Lisa girls also wear different outfits each day. I met this young lady a few weeks ago on "stewardess day".
Guys,
I'm returning to LOS and will be heading straight to Patts on Saturday night. I'll land late (11pm) at the international airport in BKK what are my options at that time? And from my memory of earlier this year in LOS, taxi to and from Patts to BKK was 1000 Baht each way door to door. Now, I'll be arriving with a friend, is the 1k taxi charge from BKK to Patts per person or for both us?
BTW, if anyone wants to have a few drinks together while hunting from Sunday onward, let me know.
[QUOTE=Allover;1176606]Club Lisa girls also wear different outfits each day. I met this young lady a few weeks ago on "stewardess day".[/QUOTE]Personally speaking rating is a endless since as it has been mentioned that another person trash is another personal treasure? This debate like pricing is endless and somewhat useless but everyone has their rights to voice that opinion as long as on the otherside one is open to accept the opinion of others instead of trying to force fee it to others?
Allover: Your picture personally would suggest that this girl dispells the view that Soi 6, as a whole is going downhill?
LBM
I'm shocked. Shocked!
It's so hard to imagine that this kind of thing is going on where I live.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/07/15/new-pattay-beer-bar-australian-owner-charged-with-prostitution/[/url]
Harder still to imagine why the owner of the adjacent 'Billabong' beer bar was not also arrested, unless, of course, he made his monthly contribution to the BIB.
[QUOTE=Butter69;1176367]Surprisingly prices for girls have not changed much at all.[/QUOTE]Those prices are correct, plus bar fine.
Beer bars are the cheapest fines, but 200 + 1 drink is the best I got so far.
I once got offered no bar fine, and no price with a fair looking 40 year old manager sort, but made excuses as I wanted YST.
But if you figure in the 25% depreciation of the USD, plus hotel, it is fair to say its really up by 35% or so, plus airfares and a bloody good grope and search by TSA goons.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1176658]I'm shocked. Shocked!
It's so hard to imagine that this kind of thing is going on where I live.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/07/15/new-pattay-beer-bar-australian-owner-charged-with-prostitution/[/url]
Harder still to imagine why the owner of the adjacent 'Billabong' beer bar was not also arrested, unless, of course, he made his monthly contribution to the BIB.[/QUOTE]This is really a shocking news? How these things can happen in Thailand? And in Pattaya? Looks there is a sex tourism ring going on in there, such a plain tourist location.
Maybe a misunderstanding?
LOL
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1176658]I'm shocked. Shocked!
It's so hard to imagine that this kind of thing is going on where I live.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/07/15/new-pattay-beer-bar-australian-owner-charged-with-prostitution/[/url]
Harder still to imagine why the owner of the adjacent 'Billabong' beer bar was not also arrested, unless, of course, he made his monthly contribution to the BIB.[/QUOTE]He must not have started making his "business tax payments" to the local authorities, ha, ha.
It's soooo funny that in Thailand, prostitution, pornography and gambling are all illegal.
[QUOTE=Allover;1176606]Club Lisa girls also wear different outfits each day. I met this young lady a few weeks ago on "stewardess day".[/QUOTE]How big was her dick? Just kidding! Arrive in 7-weeks, can't wait to fly the friendly skies!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1176494]Just remember when they say limo they are not talking in the western sense of the word. A limo would be considered a normal car (generally Volvo) that is not marked as a taxi. I don't blame you about the bus, going anyway, because you will be so excited to get there. I only take the bus to and from the airport when doing a flight to / from The Philippines or inside of Thailand. Otherwise, my flight to / from the USA is out of the bus operating hours anyway. Also, if your flight arrives an hour and a half or more before the bus is due to leave then I would just go ahead and do the taxi because again you will be excited to get there and won't feel like waiting around. Believe it or not though it takes the same amount of time whether by car or bus. I have timed it several times.[/QUOTE]Gotcha Mr. Int'l and thanks for the input. They advertise new Honda 4-door sedans. Hope they got the sea water and radiation out of them, ha ha. I'm not one to take shortcuts on transportation. My flight gets in at 9:10 p. M, so I'll have plenty of time to get to the hotel, clean up and be on WS by 11:30 p. M, just as the going gets good. I'll do my negotiations there!
[QUOTE=Nixonbd; 1176721]He must not have started making his "business tax payments" to the local authorities, ha, ha.
It's soooo funny that in Thailand, prostitution, pornography and gambling are all illegal.[/QUOTE]In reality they are, but if the law is enforced a good 30% of the population will be jobless, the economy will suffer. And we shall get big blue balls!
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1176668]For staying in this area it helps if you drink 30 to 40 bottles of beer per day and are quite happy to listen to old foreigners telling the same old stories over and over again. Even better if you have a few old stories to cheer the old folks up. If your interested in sexy, young Thai girls then don't bother.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the useless info. How many times have you been to Pattaya? Once? The truth is that you can find any type of girl and any type of wingman in various parts of Pattaya. I already found my answer so forget it. Where do you stay, son? In a 600 baht rat hole above one of the "sexy, young Thai girls" go gos? .
[quote=daddy07; 1176658]i'm shocked. shocked!
it's so hard to imagine that this kind of thing is going on where i live.
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/07/15/new-pattay-beer-bar-australian-owner-charged-with-prostitution/[/url]
harder still to imagine why the owner of the adjacent 'billabong' beer bar was not also arrested, unless, of course, he made his monthly contribution to the bib.[/quote]how is it that the owner and his wife are charged with involvement in selling sexual services? it seems that unless it's a place like devil's den or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s the bar has nothing to do with sex for money exchange between the customer and the girl. the bar is merely selling drinks and charging you a fee should you want the girl to leave work early with you. can't see what dumbass would go through the trouble of investing in a bar when he doesn't even have a work permit though.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1176840]How is it that the owner and his wife are charged with involvement in selling sexual services?.[/QUOTE]It never ceases to amaze me how transparently corrupt the Thai authorities are.
The Land of Smiles has a lot good things to offer expats and tourists alike, but honesty and integrity among the Thai police is not one of them.
You are not staying. It is completely OK to walk into a bar and have a look. Then if you don't like what you see (its crowded, no other people, ugly girls, whatever) , walk out. Either there is a cover charge or this isn't. Period.
To each his own, but I don't buy anything if I'm not going to use it or in this case drink it.
[QUOTE=Jon1283;1175502].buy a reasonably cheap drink even if you don't drink it. I order water or a cheap beer and sometimes don't drink it just to get a good look at the place.[/QUOTE]
I've been going to Bangkok for over a dozen years now, but have never been to Pattaya. I plan to pay a visit in November and would like a hotel recommendation. I would like something that is right near the action and girl-friendly. However, I would prefer a 4-star or 5-star hotel. I noticed the Marriott and the Hilton on the Internet. Any comments on those? Any other recommendations on nice hotels that are girl-friendly and near the action? I would also prefer something on the ocean with a nice beach. Thank you.
Canyon
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1176666]The Dirty, The Sleazy and the Fat and Ugly.
Going is the wrong word. Gone is more accurate. It has gone down so much it's now off the scale.
Dirty = Yes
Sleazy = Yes.
Girls = Fat and Ugly.
Yes we all have opinions and if you like Dirty, Sleazy, Fat and Ugly then this could be the place. If you're at the other end of the scale then try the Walking Street.[/QUOTE]It must be tough visiting Pattaya with such a hypocritical and narrow view of things? It must be tough carrying such a large and heavy burden on your shoulder? It must be tough making a list and not using your favorite word " Quality " but it was no surprise " Walking Street " was used. I'm not a drinker but I have visit every area in Pattaya and have wonder even on Walking Street early morning and throughout the day and evening how people can sit for hours drinking. But I can't read minds or lips to know exactly what they are talking about even on Soi Buakhao but I guess you can?
I have walked the stretch of Beach Road many times and stood on Walking St. Watching the girls stroll down from Beach Road. Once through the arch they change their price structure but their appearance hasn't changed a bit. Although Walking St. Is nice there isn't one area in Pattaya that has a exlusive lock on quality nor a area that people don't sit and eat and talk story.
It must be lonely locking yourself in one area and not open to meeting people except the ones you pay. I wonder along with others on this board why you even bother to come to Pattaya with such a general and narrow view of life here. Maybe you're trying to convince everyone that you are better than everyone else and trying to be something you will never be otherwise you wouldn't be here on this board or in Pattaya with the rest of us. I suggest you try one of the islands here in Thailand since the narrow space might be more in line with your thinking.
LBM
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1176878]It never ceases to amaze me how transparently corrupt the Thai authorities are.
The Land of Smiles has a lot good things to offer expats and tourists alike, but honesty and integrity among the Thai police is not one of them.[/QUOTE]Daddy07,
That is pretty general Daddy? Did you get stopped again for not wearing your helmet? Or did you buy gas again at a independent shop only to find that it was water down? You got to get over it?
LBM
It must be lonely locking yourself in one area and not open to meeting people except the ones you pay. I wonder along with others on this board why you even bother to come to Pattaya with such a general and narrow view of life here. Maybe you're trying to convince everyone that you are better than everyone else and trying to be something you will never be otherwise you wouldn't be here on this board or in Pattaya with the rest of us. I suggest you try one of the islands here in Thailand since the narrow space might be more in line with your thinking.
LBM[/QUOTE]The funny thing is, that sonny boy obviously doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. You can find beautiful Thai girls in a multitude of venues and the same beautiful Thai girl in a multitude of venues in a Year's time. You can also find all types of guys in a multitude of venues. You can find mult-millionaire guys in beer bars and on Soi 6 just as you can find guys of meager means in sonny boy's venues.
I just hope I never meet the snob.
[QUOTE=Canyon; 1176899]I've been going to Bangkok for over a dozen years now, but have never been to Pattaya. I plan to pay a visit in November and would like a hotel recommendation. I would like something that is right near the action and girl-friendly. However, I would prefer a 4-star or 5-star hotel. I noticed the Marriott and the Hilton on the Internet. Any comments on those? Any other recommendations on nice hotels that are girl-friendly and near the action? I would also prefer something on the ocean with a nice beach. Thank you.
Canyon[/QUOTE]First time, nothing actually on the Beach! Both the Marriort and Hilton is located on Beach Road but to get to the beach you have to cross the street. The Marriort is closer to Walking St. But the Hilton sit on top of Central Festival Shopping Center and has a better view of the beach if your room faces it. Can't go wrong with both of these choices.
LBM
[QUOTE=Canyon; 1176899]I've been going to Bangkok for over a dozen years now, but have never been to Pattaya. I plan to pay a visit in November and would like a hotel recommendation. I would like something that is right near the action and girl-friendly. However, I would prefer a 4-star or 5-star hotel. I noticed the Marriott and the Hilton on the Internet. Any comments on those? Any other recommendations on nice hotels that are girl-friendly and near the action? I would also prefer something on the ocean with a nice beach. Thank you.
Canyon[/QUOTE]The Marriott Pattaya is GF and just a few blocks from Walking Street in one direction and a few blocks from Devil's Den in another. It is where I usually stay when in town, but at best I can only rate this hotel a 4. 25 star hotel. The main thing they have is a great pool / garden area to relax during the day, a very good breakfast buffet with lots of fresh fruits, juice, western and eastern dishes, and the private back entrance right off beach road that leads straight into the garden area which allows me to discreetly bring my girls back at night. I just say high to the security guard as I walk in, he smiles and salutes me. I prefer the rooms in the 4 story annex adjacent to the pool / garden area and the back entrance because they are so private and have offer up a great tropical ambiance. Bring your girl back to your room at night one time and you will appreciate this layout too. So I suggest that you request one of those rooms unless you really want an ocean view. The higher floor rooms in the main building have the ocean view, are newer and seem to be in better shape, but I still prefer the garden rooms best.
I never stayed at the Hilton. I don't think I ever will. The rooms are probably very good, but its location is not that close to Walking Street like the Marriott and I am not a fan of high rise beachfront hotels. If you plan to spend more time on Soi 6, 7, and 8 then maybe the Hilton might work out for you. I have a Marriott Chase credit card so that is another factor for me in favor of the Marriott, but I repeat the things I like best about this hotel are the pool / garden area, the private entrance off Beach Road, the location and the breakfast buffet.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1176878]It never ceases to amaze me how transparently corrupt the Thai authorities are. The Land of Smiles has a lot good things to offer expats and tourists alike, but honesty and integrity among the Thai police is not one of them.[/QUOTE]Somebody local, with connections, might be lusting over the Billabong Hotel site. With Soi LK Metro on the rise (seemingly) , the property values are going up. Making the current owners life difficult might just be part of a bigger plan to get one's hands on that prime corner? I've met the guy in question at the Billabong and he's just a guy trying to make a living out there with the rest of the farang rats.
Thank you for the information, Natty and Little Big Man. The Marriott sounds good. The other alternative I'm considering is the Penthouse. I know it's not as luxurious as the Marriott or the Hilton, but I'm curious about trying a very hedonistic place with mirrors and all. However, I'm concerned that it may not have high enough standards and be a little worn. Can someone who stayed at the Penthouse tell him about the condition, the quality of the place and if the rooms are as erotic as they indicate.
Canyon
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1176939]Nicely written LBM and I will consider your points.
OK – considered them.
With knowledge of a destination we should share information to people who have not yet been to that destination and are thinking about it. I think my comments are reasonably correct and backed up by quite a few other members. They talk about searching for quality because outside the Walking Street there is not much quality about. Very different from years ago when it was possible to find quality on every street corner. Years ago for every 10 girls you would see you might want to fuck 7. Now the tide has turned and for every 10 you might want to fuck 2. I am talking about quality. If you have no interest in quality then you might want to fuck them all.
For anyone not yet been to Pattaya you find the real quality in the Walking Street. To a lesser extent you can also find it in Soi 2, Soi 7 and Soi 8.
Apologies for not mentioning quality in my last post. Hope the overuse here makes up for it.
Whilst I'm on a question about Blizz the blow job bar. Anybody been there?[/QUOTE]You got a few post and nearly all of them is to criticize everyone on their choices and their rating as if your experience and opinion is the gold standard of all mongering and Walking street seems to be the center of mongering in the world for quality. I have seen posters come and go and I must say you got to be the most anal retentive individual I have read on this board for sometime. If you can get by the ME CHURCH MENTALITY and past all that B. S you are dishing out you might come to understand that although you consider others people standard and rating below your standard there are others who might consider your standard below theirs!
What you fail to understand! You don't share! You criticized! Read your own post and try to comprehend what you have written if you can soften that thick self center ego of yours! Just because you have spoken to a few people! You can't be that self-center to actually believe it to be reasonably correct just because a few member might have agreed with you! A few don't make a majority! If that is what you are going to use to back up your position LOL! I actually haven't seen anyone agree with you! Maybe this is just a way of stroking yourself.
With knowledge of a destination we should share information to people who have not yet been to that destination and are thinking about it. I think my comments are reasonably correct and back up by a few other members that there is NO QUALITY ON SOI 2, 7.8,. Doesn't your suggestion here contradict your thinking and experience you express above or are you already softening your position?
Maybe the reason your self proclaim stats are so bad with Pattaya is because you travel and visit with such a narrow view and come to a quick conclusion to things by just speaking to a few other members. If things are so bad now by the time you come back again it should be for every 10 girls you won't want to fuck any of them this way we won't again have to listen to your narrow negativity again. Oh last, if you just want a BlowJob go there but I will save you the time there is no quality there! I have first hand knowledge of this along with opinions from other members therefore my comments are reasonably correct.
LBM
[QUOTE=Redfield10; 1176911]It must be lonely locking yourself in one area and not open to meeting people except the ones you pay. I wonder along with others on this board why you even bother to come to Pattaya with such a general and narrow view of life here. Maybe you're trying to convince everyone that you are better than everyone else and trying to be something you will never be otherwise you wouldn't be here on this board or in Pattaya with the rest of us. I suggest you try one of the islands here in Thailand since the narrow space might be more in line with your thinking.
LBM[/QUOTE]The funny thing is, that sonny boy obviously doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. You can find beautiful Thai girls in a multitude of venues and the same beautiful Thai girl in a multitude of venues in a Year's time. You can also find all types of guys in a multitude of venues. You can find mult-millionaire guys in beer bars and on Soi 6 just as you can find guys of meager means in sonny boy's venues.
I just hope I never meet the snob.[/QUOTE]I fully understand your view and I think you are getting what I'm getting from his post of 29, there are many that only have 1 post and its content has more value than what he has written. Personally I don't know why I bother? Can you imagine meeting this guy and having to listen to what he has to say as being fact! This guy will stay stupid the rest of his life if he doesn't take the bag off his head! Hey maybe this guy will buy and open a beer bar if a few other members tell him that he can get quality girls to work for him?
LBM
[quote=sangkid; 1176939]...now the tide has turned and for every 10 you might want to fuck 2. i am talking about quality. if you have no interest in quality then you might want to fuck them all...
whilst i'm on a question about blizz the blow job bar. anybody been there?[/quote]actually, in my experience, 2 sexually attractive girls out of 10 is a pretty good ratio anywhere in the world, including pattaya, thailand. there are many go-go bars on walking street that can't boast that degree of quality. with 2 out of 10, any punter should be able to find a satisfactory fuck buddy without any problems.
regarding your question, i think you're referring to "bliss lounge" on third road, where the quality of girls is just as good as at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for 100 baht less in cost.
Hi,
Does anyone knows whether Sheraton Pattaya is a green hotel?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Redfield10;1176785]Thanks for the useless info. How many times have you been to Pattaya? Once? The truth is that you can find any type of girl and any type of wingman in various parts of Pattaya. I already found my answer so forget it. Where do you stay, son? In a 600 baht rat hole above one of the "sexy, young Thai girls" go gos? .[/QUOTE]Have to agree with you, Red. Having traveled all over Central America, Pattaya beats them all for me now! Sure, you can get an 8 or even 10 quality Columbiana, but it's become strictly a business proposition for them. The Thai girls are much more fun to be around and there are diamonds in the rough on WS who are worth keeping around a while. It depends on what you're looking for, and where you go to find it. For me, I'd much prefer a beer bar girl over a go-go girl. On the down side, once you've found a girl, it's difficult to go back to the same bar and expect to walk out with another.
[quote=daddy07; 1177010]actually, in my experience. 2 sexually attractive girls out of 10 is a pretty good ratio anywhere in the world, including pattaya, thailand. there are many go-go bars on walking street that can't boast that degree of quality. with 2 out of 10, any punter should be able to find a satisfactory fuck buddy without any problems.
regarding your question, i think you're referring to "bliss lounge" on third road, where the quality of girls is just as good as at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s for 100 baht less in cost.[/quote]daddy07,
third road, this hypocritical fool doesn't leave walking street!
lbm
[url]http://www.pattayataxi.info/[/url]
As others have noted, reasonable stopovers are not a problem.
As for the type of car, I've had mixed results. Sometimes the driver shows up in a Camry (or whatever Toyota calls that model in Thailand). For a single passenger I find that car plenty large. But occasionally the driver shows up in a Corolla, which is not nearly as large. The trunk is also very small, which could be a problem if you have a lot of luggage. I see on the company's web site that different cars are available. So it the type of ride is important, I'm sure you could book what you want in advance.
Bunky
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1176910]Daddy07,
That is pretty general Daddy? Did you get stopped again for not wearing your helmet? Or did you buy gas again at a independent shop only to find that it was water down? You got to get over it? LBM[/QUOTE]
Don't make fun of the helmet issue. I got stopped back in March (should have kept going as I had already passed them). Anyway, ended up paying about $12 US for not wearing my f-ing helmet. I blame this Euro dude. I think he was British. He mentioned to me earlier that day that the police give tickets for not wearing a helmet. That fucker jinxed me. Got to love the older (and wiser) traveler :-)) (smiley)
Pipe
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99; 1177236]Don't make fun of the helmet issue. I got stopped back in March (should have kept going as I had already passed them). Anyway, ended up paying about $12 US for not wearing my f-ing helmet. I blame this Euro dude. I think he was British. He mentioned to me earlier that day that the police give tickets for not wearing a helmet. That fucker jinxed me. Got to love the older (and wiser) traveler.) (smiley)
Pipe[/QUOTE]Hey don't feel bad it happens to the best of us? You can't blame anyone but yourself for not wearing it. Like the Thais no reason to wear it except it is just too warm with one on and we like the breeze and the freedom.
Just last night going home after my 2 plus hour of massages since the action was shutdown here for the holiday. Small Soi, with lots of traffic why? A accident, a Toyota truck wanted to make a right turn into another Soi, he was 90% completed his turn into the Soi, I have seen it many times throughout the years on this Soi, motorcycles just will not give way although the vehicle by now has the right of way. This one kid without a helmet just wouldn't give way no matter what and how little room was left on the road and going too fast. He tried to go around the truck hit the hood and flew off the bike and guess what happen? He flew smack head into one of those cement light poles.
For you white folks even with a helmet I have seen them let go Thais without a helmet just to get to the Farang. We are a ATMS on two wheels, they need and want the money and will find something. It happens young or old?
LBM
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1176878]It never ceases to amaze me how transparently corrupt the Thai authorities are.
The Land of Smiles has a lot good things to offer expats and tourists alike, but honesty and integrity among the Thai police is not one of them.[/QUOTE]It is precisely the corruption, laziness, and dishonesty of the police (as well as other parts of the power structure) to which we owe the relative freedom in this country! I dread returning to the Bad Place, where after midnight there are more honest, enthusiastic, and professional porcine gentlemen (and nowadays even worse - ladies!) roaming the streets in their cruisers than there are ordinary citizens. At least in Thailand they go home and go to bed at midnight.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1177248]For you white folks even with a helmet I have seen them let go Thais without a helmet just to get to the Farang. We are a ATMS on two wheels, they need and want the money and will find something. It happens young or old?[/QUOTE]Actually, oddly enough upcountry just the opposite has happened to me quite a number of times. Thais get stopped, I get waved on.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1177248]Hey don't feel bad it happens to the best of us? You can't blame anyone but yourself for not wearing it. Like the Thais no reason to wear it except it is just too warm with one on and we like the breeze and the freedom. --snip -- For you white folks even with a helmet I have seen them let go Thais without a helmet just to get to the Farang. We are a ATMS on two wheels, they need and want the money and will find something. It happens young or old? LBM[/QUOTE]Yep, the BIB could give a flyin' frick about the safety of their own children.
Sangkid,
A clarification! Your post #7971 with the quote of LBM, wasn't actually made by me! How it got twister is beyond me but the quote was made by Redfield. If you go back to post 7984, Redfield remarks were made by me and not him.
Based on my conversation with you it is obvious that I dealing with a person with limited comprehension level. I was drawn into a conversation with you on the Pattaya Hotel thread, shame on me, then I fell for it again, so shame on me once again! There will be no strike three so I will respond and you can have the final say so let me first start by saying the more I hear from you the more you seem to stick your foot in your month but I guess by now your mouth is quite large?
You suggested that you have run into people that have read ISG and other forum like it taken information from posters and booked accordingly have been disappointed and had their holiday ruined SHOULD THEY BLAME THEMSELVES? If you don't know by now along with others that ISG and others forums are just opinions from poster their experiences might not be dupicated since everyone isn't the same and have different likes and dislikes. Even a person shopping for an IPOD on the Internet can get the specific and description on the item but once order and the person gets iand operates it might not like the item. These legitimate sales have a satisfaction return policy but ISG and other site as such are a F-KING SEX SITE! There is no return policy common sense would dictate its a buyer beware! So to answer your question as to whether the individual should blame themselves I say F-KING YES! Since if you read through the many threads in ISG you will see a common discussions on opinions to agree to disagree. If the people you have spoken or run into feel the information was not accurate and now blame the forums because they didn't get the exact same experience they are as stupid as you and deserves that their holiday has been ruined. I say stay home jackoff, you don't deserve to travel and be in the monger club.
You say you are responsible and giving others the exact information on what Pattaya has become which is what the whole discussion has become between you and me and although you have the right you go beyond providing your opinion you are actually stating this to be fact based on a " few you have spoken or run into ". State your opinion and don't criticize others for going to Soi 6, having the experience of their life and sharing it on the board to have you turn around and inject that their experience had no quality and that the pussy smell? Did you ever think for a minute maybe the guy like stinking pussy just like you like to have quality on Walking Street. By the way I was on Soi 8, last night with another poster and I can tell you it is no different than Soi 6, There was fat, ugly, quality and LB'S and I'm sure smelling pussy too? As for Walking Street, we also saw a bar across from Baccara before we went in and I can tell you there was fat, ugly, quality inside and once again I'm sure someone pussy smell.
See you don't get it? When in Thailand get yourself some Tamarine and start chewing you might be able to turn the tide of your dementia at your age. No one person has all the answer and no one area has a lock on quality. Enjoy your quality and let others enjoy their cheap and smelly pussy. State your opinion good or bad but quit force feeding me and others that there is only quality pussy on Walking St. along with your self madeup stats that Pattaya is fallling apart based on a few meetings. We all like quality women but th are old f-ks around that like fat, old and stinky pussy. Some even goes as far as venturing to the bush! just let us enjoy our fun and we will let you enjoy your quality.
If you are serious about the bar give the name we like to do a secret review on it? And maybe help with your business by sitting hours throughout the day and night sitting and talking about our past just make sure you have quality, old, fat, especially smelly and sticky pussy. I hope this one time you are open to what is being said and not just defending and responding because of your inflated ego. I personally hear your about quality! And there isn't one person that doesn't enjoy it but not everyone likes having a trophy when we walk with a cane so we go for cheap fat, smelly pussy with quality GFE, since we are unable to keep up with the quality?
Enjoy your quality but your time is up Sonny Boy!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1177721]Sangkid,
Enjoy your quality but your time is up Sonny Boy!
LBM[/QUOTE]Seems to have devolved into an obsession. Start a new thread and spare us.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1177721]Sangkid,
A clarification! Your post #7971 with the quote of LBM, wasn't actually made by me! How it got twister is beyond me but the quote was made by Redfield. If you go back to post 7984, Redfield remarks were made by me and not him.
Enjoy your quality but your time is up Sonny Boy!
LBM[/QUOTE]Hey KID,
Duck!
[QUOTE=MongerKing; 1176072]Guys,
I'm planning on visiting Pattaya in October 2011. I last visited 5 years ago and prices were around 1000-1500 for LT. Can anyone advise on what the prices and quality is like these days? I realise prices are up, the same hotel I used is even up by 35.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Beer-bars BG's are 500 ST and 1000 LT Quality is hit or miss (Unfortunately, mostly miss)
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1177248]Hey don't feel bad it happens to the best of us? You can't blame anyone but yourself for not wearing it. Like the Thais no reason to wear it except it is just too warm with one on and we like the breeze and the freedom.LBM[/QUOTE]I blame that guy who jinxed me. If he hadn't said anything it would not have happened. It's called superstition.
Fuckers out to make a buck (off of us tourists). It's not enough that we go there and shell out some bucks (on food, drinks, and WOMEN) to help out their economy.
I am visiting Thailand for the first time in November for about 12 days. I need some references on a good Hotel.
In Pattaya that is clean with nice views if all possible and that allow me to have overnight guests without a surcharge.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Homestreet; 1178152]I am visiting Thailand for the first time in November for about 12 days. I need some references on a good Hotel.
In Pattaya that is clean with nice views if all possible and that allow me to have overnight guests without a surcharge.
Thanks![/QUOTE]As in the BKK forum post you did. Wrong thread. There is a Pattaya Hotel thread. Take a look around at the whole site. Alot of your questions are already answered.
What was it like when the Red Guys were last in charge?
[QUOTE=Homestreet; 1178152]I am visiting Thailand for the first time in November for about 12 days. I need some references on a good Hotel.
In Pattaya that is clean with nice views if all possible and that allow me to have overnight guests without a surcharge.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Try the Dynasty Hotel.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1177726]Seems to have devolved into an obsession. Start a new thread and spare us.[/QUOTE]Rjsss212,
In all due respect I disagree whether you are joking or not?
I remember when I came to this board in 2003, there were maybe a half dozen threads. Throughout the years this board has now grown to over 51 threads and that includes the achives which are useful but so many have been added which were unnecessary because of of a few heavy handed suggestions to Jackson to add or split threads because individuals were just too impatient to hear opinions or even disagreements. Jackson being a busy man has improve the software for his site but hasn't deleted the many useless thread that currently exist with outdated posting dates that doesn't reflect recent postings. A good example is " Opinions " this still show a posting date of 2009 when posting has been made in 2011.
In 2003, when I came to this board I didn't mind RTFF throughout the limited threads to find my information this in my opinion made me do my homework along with me reading recommendations and getting opinions good or bad so I can get both perpective. Today! As soon as you come to Thailand, you see 51 threads and human nature has shown me who the hell wants to RTFF 51 Threads so people don't read and they take the easy route instead of RTFF. As recently posting (nothing personal) someone ask a question regarding a hotel stay outside of the specific thread. This could have lead to Singkid opinion that some have taken information from forums like this and had their holiday ruined because all they got was the good opinions. Its like someone opening a Penthouse magazines and only looking at the pictures and not reading any of the good stories within the magazine.
As long as people aren't willing to be patient and allow for the discussion to run it course and suggestion of more and more threads be created and splitted you will have more useless thread than useful ones.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1178312]As long as people aren't willing to be patient and allow for the discussion to run it course and suggestion of more and more threads be created and splitted you will have more useless thread than useful ones.[/QUOTE]When I spot consistent nonsense from a poster I ignore them. Literally. There is an ignore function on ISG. You won't even see their posts. I have had SK on ignore for weeks now. Don't wait. Your quality of life will skyrocket!
SunLover
[QUOTE=Opebo;1177370]Actually, oddly enough upcountry just the opposite has happened to me quite a number of times. Thais get stopped, I get waved on.[/QUOTE]Probably the cop doesn't want to mess with the language barrier. In Pattaya cops can speak some English.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1178312]Rjsss212,
In all due respect I disagree whether you are joking or not?
I remember when I came to this board in 2003, there were maybe a half dozen threads. Throughout the years this board has now grown to over 51 threads and that includes the achives which are useful but so many have been added which were unnecessary because of of a few heavy handed suggestions to Jackson to add or split threads because individuals were just too impatient to hear opinions or even disagreements. Jackson being a busy man has improve the software for his site but hasn't deleted the many useless thread that currently exist with outdated posting dates that doesn't reflect recent postings. A good example is " Opinions " this still show a posting date of 2009 when posting has been made in 2011.
In 2003, when I came to this board I didn't mind RTFF throughout the limited threads to find my information this in my opinion made me do my homework along with me reading recommendations and getting opinions good or bad so I can get both perpective. Today! As soon as you come to Thailand, you see 51 threads and human nature has shown me who the hell wants to RTFF 51 Threads so people don't read and they take the easy route instead of RTFF. As recently posting (nothing personal) someone ask a question regarding a hotel stay outside of the specific thread. This could have lead to Singkid opinion that some have taken information from forums like this and had their holiday ruined because all they got was the good opinions. Its like someone opening a Penthouse magazines and only looking at the pictures and not reading any of the good stories within the magazine.
As long as people aren't willing to be patient and allow for the discussion to run it course and suggestion of more and more threads be created and splitted you will have more useless thread than useful ones.
LBM[/QUOTE]With all do respect, I disagree with you. I agree with Rjsss212 and Sunlover2.
[QUOTE=Hobbyist2;1178385]With all do respect, I disagree with you. I agree with Rjsss212 and Sunlover2.[/QUOTE]That's okay to disagree with me. But lets hear some reasons as to why? Although I have a disagreement with SK. I don't use the Ignore buttom on him or anyone they have a right to voice and so do I.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1178557]That's okay to disagree with me. But lets hear some reasons as to why? Although I have a disagreement with SK. I don't use the Ignore buttom on him or anyone they have a right to voice and so do I.
LBM[/QUOTE]LBM,
The fact that I said I agree with the two other posters gives you the reasons. I agreed with what they said, so I didn't feel the need to be redundant and I don't like to type. However, due to SK's continual posting with no meaningful information, I think that some of us have heard enough from him. When you respond to him it just encourages him to continue the same diatribe of useless chatter. How many times do we need to hear that he thinks Pattaya is F-upped and most of the women are ugly? If he has a post that offered and useful info, I haven't seen it. Of course, at this point, I won't be looking for it either. I don't have any issues with you. I just wish you wouldn't encourage the boy. However, if you choose to respond to him then obviously that is your choice. I will just have more to scroll past.
[QUOTE=Zip Head;1178272]Try the Dynasty Hotel.[/QUOTE]I did like the dynasty until they started to hassle me about girls I bring to my room.
Including asking for 500 baht if they were not registered. I always book my room for two but
Some of the hotels still try to screw you and ask for I'd or ask for extra money.
Dynasty has been both good and bad.
Sometimes they really mess with me about any and all girls. And sometimes I have a few and they leave me alone.
Penthouse is a good hotel if you want a lot of extras in your room. Dancing pole. And some rooms have a fuck chair hanging from the ceiling. Can be loud as there is a bar downstairs. Kitten? Something like that. The girls seem to money hungry for me.
There are nice hotels everywhere. I like soi 13 as its in the middle and fairly quiet. Down the street from dynasty as I try not to stay there anymore.
I think a good one is shady spring hotel? Not sure of name. Across from massage parlor and tailor several buildings from dynasty.
No hassle ever even when I bring five girls to my room.
[QUOTE=Hobbyist2; 1178581]LBM,
The fact that I said I agree with the two other posters gives you the reasons. I agreed with what they said, so I didn't feel the need to be redundant and I don't like to type. However, due to SK's continual posting with no meaningful information, I think that some of us have heard enough from him. When you respond to him it just encourages him to continue the same diatribe of useless chatter. How many times do we need to hear that he thinks Pattaya is F-upped and most of the women are ugly? If he has a post that offered and useful info, I haven't seen it. Of course, at this point, I won't be looking for it either. I don't have any issues with you. I just wish you wouldn't encourage the boy. However, if you choose to respond to him then obviously that is your choice. I will just have more to scroll past.[/QUOTE]Hobbyist2,
Now that is more than reasonable to me! That wasn't too hard was it to get off topic and say what needed to be said and we didn't have to start a new thread. Yes that is my choice and yours to scroll but until I spoke up he continued as you said and in my opinion he would have continue even now. I kept silent for over two weeks but kept up with the board while I was in the States finally when I return I said my peace and he reduced his post regarding his particular opinion about Pattaya. Hopefully you will have less to scroll now.
Signing out on this topic! LBM
[QUOTE=MauiDude; 1178588]I did like the dynasty until they started to hassle me about girls I bring to my room.
Including asking for 500 baht if they were not registered. I always book my room for two but
Some of the hotels still try to screw you and ask for I'd or ask for extra money.
Dynasty has been both good and bad.
Sometimes they really mess with me about any and all girls. And sometimes I have a few and they leave me alone.[/QUOTE]Huh? Dynasty isn't 100% girl friendly? I've stayed there many times and never, never had a problem. Sure, they ask for an I'd, but that's a good thing.
[QUOTE=Hobbyist2; 1178581]LBM,
The fact that I said I agree with the two other posters gives you the reasons. I agreed with what they said, so I didn't feel the need to be redundant and I don't like to type. However, due to SK's continual posting with no meaningful information, I think that some of us have heard enough from him. When you respond to him it just encourages him to continue the same diatribe of useless chatter. How many times do we need to hear that he thinks Pattaya is F-upped and most of the women are ugly? If he has a post that offered and useful info, I haven't seen it. Of course, at this point, I won't be looking for it either. I don't have any issues with you. I just wish you wouldn't encourage the boy. However, if you choose to respond to him then obviously that is your choice. I will just have more to scroll past.[/QUOTE]I like the way you think.
I agree with Hobbyist, Rjsss212 and Sunlover2.
To Hobbyist. Thanks for your post.
Maybe these guy will get over the banter and start using the PM function. If not, we all have more scrolling to do. Good thing it works well.
Pipe
[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99; 1178928]I like the way you think.
I agree with Hobbyist, Rjsss212 and Sunlover2.
To Hobbyist. Thanks for your post.
Maybe these guy will get over the banter and start using the PM function. If not, we all have more scrolling to do. Good thing it works well.
Pipe[/QUOTE]Pipe Layer99,
When you look at my post after Hobbyist responded with his reasons one would hope that after I signed off the subject would have died. Thereafter I logged on and saw and read the response it was clear to me in this particular situation my belief or theory was incorrect! Therefore in this situation I would like to apologized to all! Particularly Rjsss212 and Sunlover2 for encouraging this particular subject they were correct in their assessment regarding this individual.
Now lets get to you! If you truly believe what you had written in agreement with Hobbyist then you wouldn't have responded! Instead all you did was continue to feed the topic and the monkey going against what you agree too!
Less let this topic die for once and for all and I certainly will limit my exchanges with individuals, and consider using the Ignore button as suggested! Please everyone my sincere apologise and DON'T RESPOND AGAIN TO THIS TOPIC!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1178992]Pipe Layer99,
Less let this topic die for once and for all and I certainly will limit my exchanges with individuals, and consider using the Ignore button as suggested! Please everyone my sincere apologise and DON'T RESPOND AGAIN TO THIS TOPIC!
LBM[/QUOTE]No sweat. Your a good man and an asset to the board. No apologies necessary...
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1179077]No sweat. Your a good man and an asset to the board. No apologies necessary.[/QUOTE]Agreed!
Agreed! Yu guys are okay.
Hey why'all;
I am very excited to visit Pattaya from August 11 to 17th. If anyone wants to hang out and stomp around together, holler.
First time I visited I stayed at the Queen Vic on Soi 6 and while it was nice, it was too much in the thick of things. Any suggestions on centrally-located, GF, inexpensive places? Where do you go back to again and again?
Also, I'm having a little success with DIA setting up some freebie visits. I am considering using ThaiLoveLinks as well. Recommendations (of the sites and / or handles of friendly girls from the sites)?
Finally I was planning on bringing a few trinkets over from Shanghai (ma 'hometown') to gift to some gals. Any suggestions, or is this even a good idea?
Ira Johnson
Glad we are back to the discussions about women and p-ssy in Pattaya. If anyone (lmb included) wants to discuss or make a statement about anything with me directly, use the PM function versus posting on the main board (that just clogs it).
I for one enjoy reading the 'adventures' of the fellas that visit Thailand (both good and not so good. We all have different tastes, likes, and dislikes. Keep the posts about the scene going. Everyone benefits this way.
I will be making another trip this month and plan on enjoying it to the max. First trip was good, second trip was better, so I'm planning on even more FUN this time! I will definitely hit walking street, the clubs, and the mall (met two hot civilians [non-pro] on the last trip. I will also check out more of the outdoor bars. Found two great ones just by checking out new areas.
I tried posting in the hotel section, but got no response. Has anyone ever stayed at the Sheraton Pattaya. Is it guest-friendly? How far is it from the action? What's it like? Thank you for your response.
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1179086]Hey why'all;
I am very excited to visit Pattaya from August 11 to 17th. If anyone wants to hang out and stomp around together, holler.
First time I visited I stayed at the Queen Vic on Soi 6 and while it was nice, it was too much in the thick of things. Any suggestions on centrally-located, GF, inexpensive places? Where do you go back to again and again?
Also, I'm having a little success with DIA setting up some freebie visits. I am considering using ThaiLoveLinks as well. Recommendations (of the sites and / or handles of friendly girls from the sites)?
Finally I was planning on bringing a few trinkets over from Shanghai (ma 'hometown') to gift to some gals. Any suggestions, or is this even a good idea?
Ira Johnson[/QUOTE]Check out April Suites. I often stay at August Suites. Send me PM. I can help you out with any other questions you may have.
[QUOTE=Canyon;1179299]I tried posting in the hotel section, but got no response. Has anyone ever stayed at the Sheraton Pattaya. Is it guest-friendly? How far is it from the action? What's it like? Thank you for your response.[/QUOTE]Great Beach. But far from Action. And I believe there is joiner fee for that hotel.
Maybe Sangkid is on to something. I left X Zone last night about 1 after hanging with Tomjackin for a few hours. I was on my way home when I spotted another friend who lives here so I hung out with him for a while in front of Lucifer. I wasn't really looking for someone who I would want to sleep in late with because I was going to have to pick my school teacher up from Toyota at an early 9:30am when she dropped her car to be serviced. Seeing that I had been up since 7am I decided that I had enough and headed towards the Penthouse to pick up my motorbike. I got maybe 100 feet from Lucifer when I spotted someone with potential. She actually looked like a Black American actress (can't remember the name - just the face). She asked me where I was going. I said home. She said I want to come with you. I said okay. She said how much you give me? I said how much you want? She said 1,000. I repeated in a "be serious with me" manner, how much you want? She said 500! Let's go.
We had a great session last night (attempted anal and finished up with CIM) falling asleep after 5. I woke up at 8:30 and told her she could go. We were both paralyzed though. Then I woke up again at 9:15 and told her to get up. She was attempting to get in another session, but I knew my school teacher would have to be serviced after I picked her up so I declined. When she finished showering I had 1,000 baht waiting for her on my desk. She was ecstatic. Why 1,000 when we agreed on 500? Well because 1. 1,000 is the usual rate I give for LT and 2. I didn't have any change!
Will arrive Thursday or Friday in Pattaya. Anyone around to hit the venueses and to share information?
I returned after a year away to find the place ruined! The police are chasing away all young (under 20 officially and all newbies unofficially) women from Beach Road. All that is left are older (over 24) and more hard core putas. Tragic and harbinger of things to come. The freelancers were far and away the prettiest, younger (18-21) women in the area and now no more. The bars also only have 20 or 21 and up. All seem to be hard core and been around a long time! I have found nothing on the internet any where about this. Women on Beach Road tell me this started last year October and has gotten stricter under the new government, led by a woman. Any suggestions on where to find nice, not too experienced. 18-20 year olds? One woman told me under 20 was illegal in Thailand, but I cannot believe they changed the age of consent. It seems to be a local ordinance of some kind.
Walking down soi 6 spotted a tiny spinner in street clothes in front of a bar, chatting with the other girls. Our gazes locked, mutual understanding followed, and within 30 seconds we were heading upstairs. After one of the most abandoned fucks I can remember, we played the age guessing game and I guessed she was 21. She turned out to be 23 but rightly pointed out that her tits look 17. She told me that she had a sugar daddy (her term) for more than a year, who kept her on retainer and saw her very occasionally. She fired him two months ago because he was butterfly. (I'm just telling her story.) I asked if she loved him and she said never. Liked? No, never liked or loved, because he was 55 and serious, and that's what she told him when he asked if he could pay for her time. Then her mother phoned and she had a long conversation, during which she got my cock hard and ended up standing over me masturbating herself while talking to her mother on the phone. One of the things she told her mother is that some guy took her for two days and gave her 40, 000 baht. Another guy is flying her over to Hong Kong for a couple of days, she showed me the ticket. But for 700 baht she gave me an absolutely fantastic ride, from the shower to the dressing table to the bed, etc. I'm sure the rich guys also feel she's worth every cent. Except perhaps for the sugar daddy. Someone eventually shouted that they need the room. We were up there a long time.
She was a highlight, but the shorthaired former Tesco Lotus shopgirl who now works at Bliss Lounge definitely deserves an honorable mention for not complaining about the drool down the front of her uniform. As does the half-Chinese rocker girl with Lennon sunglasses and tattoos of Sister Morphine and medusa who won me over, to my surprise, to take her upstairs for 800 baht all in. Now I think I'm in love with her.
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist;1179664]Any suggestions on where to find nice, not too experienced. 18-20 year olds?[/QUOTE]Hehe, probably in the rooms of expats getting trained. The demand for those types has soared in recent years. You're not the only one searching!
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1179782]Hehe, probably in the rooms of expats getting trained. The demand for those types has soared in recent years. You're not the only one searching![/QUOTE]Ahh. I know where to get them!
Sadly I won't tell.
I found 2 girls with a great lack of experience this trip, one on soi 6 who was 18 and I was her second customer and second dick inside her. Yes no joke.
She wanted to learn everything, she really didn't know anything. The body was ofcourse amazing and looks. Ohmygod!
Good she had a nice guy like me.
The second was 25, but I was her first customer. She was horryfied to have sex with a farang, but it was ok after.
Ok, I tell you. She work on the bar on the right of LK rennisance on Soi diana.
[QUOTE=Incel; 1179845]Ahh. I know where to get them!
Sadly I won't tell.
I found 2 girls with a great lack of experience this trip, one on soi 6 who was 18 and I was her second customer and second dick inside her. Yes no joke.
She wanted to learn everything, she really didn't know anything. The body was ofcourse amazing and looks. Ohmygod!
Good she had a nice guy like me. The second was 25, but I was her first customer. She was horryfied to have sex with a farang, but it was ok after.
Ok, I tell you. She work on the bar on the right of LK rennisance on Soi diana.[/QUOTE]And how much did you pay for that unique experience (s)?
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1179946]And how much did you pay for that unique experience (s)?[/QUOTE]For the one in soi 6, 700 baht obviously, and for the one in Soi Diana, I'd guess about 1000. And 300 to the bar in each case. Correct Incel?
[QUOTE=Incel;1179845]Ahh. I know where to get them!.Ok, I tell you. She work on the bar on the right of LK rennisance on Soi diana.[/QUOTE]I believe the bar is to the left of the Hotel (as you are facing it).
To the right is 7-11, a massgage parlor and a female clothes shop.).
I like that area with all the girls running up and down the street. Plus there are a lot of Go-Gos and bars in the LK Metro area.
Couple of funny stories (for me) that I hope will not offend anyone too much.
1. Yesterday at one in the afternoon I leave my hotel room and walk to the elevator. I'm on the tenth floor of a very expensive hotel quite near to Soi 8. I don't usually stay here but a friend is in town and he as points that qualify him for a free room. Also waiting for the elevator is a girl. She is extremely over weight and her face condition is very poor. I'm reluctant to get in the elevator with her in case it stops on any other floors and other customers think she is with me. But I do and she asks me where I'm going and I tell her and ask her where she is going. She says to work. I asked her where she works and of course she replied Soi (you know where just a couple of block away). I find it very strange that someone with money, I guess he had money staying in this particular hotel, would bar fine a girl looking like this long time even with beer goggles. She was the type you wake up with your arm round and you have to get out quick without disturbing her even if it means cutting your own arm off. Really that bad. She would probably be on the phone to all her ugly mates up country and telling them to come to Pattaya where farangs don't care what they look like.
2. Second one. Later that day I walked past a bar advertising the following:
Draft Beer.
Free Pool.
Live Sports.
25 Sexy Girls.
4 Dogs.
I guess you can guess my thoughts.
Bliss Lounge.
As I said I have a friend in town and he wanted to try the Bliss Lounge. We found it up on the third road nearly opposite X-Zyte. The girls that joined us immediately told us this was a blow job bar and encouraged us to go upstairs very quickly. Cost 600 Baht to go up. The girl said she had 300 and the bar 300. The room smelt very nice and looked very clean. She told me to get undressed and sit in a black comfortable arm chair. She then did the blow job fully clothed. She was quite pretty and I had the urge to fuck her. I asked and she said she had her period. If you have an itch and just need a blow job then I recommend this place. For me I need a bit more interaction rather than just sitting there watching. I tipped her 500 Baht. I will go back but make sure in advance about the fuck. My mate had interaction and fucked his girl. He tipped her 1, 000 Baht.
[QUOTE=Rocksoff;1180068]For the one in soi 6, 700 baht obviously, and for the one in Soi Diana, I'd guess about 1000. And 300 to the bar in each case. Correct Incel?[/QUOTE]I paid more than that. I am not a poor guy so I give the money to who need and give me a nice experience.
am in town this trip for only just over a week. very short trip. sucks. every day, extremely busy. was not going to report, but figured now choice of contributing to this forum or watching internet porn.
delta airlines. from tokyo. flight about 3/4ths empty. i had four seats to myself. watched hall pass. very good movie and some other movie which was ok. of those few on the flight, number of single men were very few. and of those, think i and one other were american. the other yank weighed over 300 pounds. all other sm were european (aka: you're-a-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]-in).
landed. zipped through immigration. my 1000 baht taxi was gate 3 showing paper with name popper on it. cool. took the "limo" (the black volvo) to pattaya. all good. took a vit c (apalis) in taxi cause wanted to start this trip with a bang. it was just there, loose, bottom of the bag. was the tablet more than five years old? no idea. did it still work? one way to find out. bit off half and put under my tongue to dissolve. arrived and hotel wanted 600 baht. said i stayed here before for 500. they claimed to raise the price. turned to leave. just then the maid saw me, gave me kiss, and i got my usual rate. that she glad to see me could have been due to my incredibly good looks, awesome personality, or the fact that last trip tipped her 500 baht.
walked outside and immediately saw two gals. ok. spoke to one. 500 st? agreed. she asked "how long is short time?" popper: "five rounds of boom boom." she looked at me in horror, walked away. popper: "i joking, i joking". she still left. ok. cried my eyes out and three seconds later found another gal. she older. nice large titties too, which was good. wanted to start this trip with a mature gal who can take a good pounding. we discussed: 500 st. 1000 lt. she wanted lt. ok. she married to english guy, who left her and now in cambodia. she claimed to own a farang restaurant in jontien. econ bad and restaurant now no longer. real nice. nice as can be. with the help of my vit c, we had four rounds that night. twice came on her face, which she took like a champ as she licked little popper and balls. guess the vit c tab still good. cool. gave her 1200 morning. absolute sweetie. would have taken a picture, but my camera phone not working. good grief.
next morning checked. forgot my vitamins and my fake crocs. idiot! crocs essential esp during the rainy season. shopped 1500 for vitamins. 25o b for another fake crocs. from herein i will just leave the crocs in my suitcase, so will never forget them when traveling. also got the fake polo gym bag for 340 baht and 280 baht fanny pack. thailand is the place for this crap. when i was here last march i gave my jeweler a 1880s watch which i got on ebay. it needed a custom part (balance) but according to my jeweler the person up bkk who makes custom watch parts died."no one in thailand can make watch parts any more for watches so old." oh well.
as is my deep seated religious belief that bar fines and lady drinks are for noobs and fools, walked about and quickly found gal. she 35 and huge tits. on walking street not far from lucifers. apparently i had her before, but completely forgot. these gals have incredible memories. she remembered my hotel room and about when we were together (last march). she sucked, swallowed."you did not boom boom me, just like before." ummmmmm ok. would have taken her picture, but again my sony erricson phone camera out for some strange reason. paid her 600 and out the door she went.
morning had my usual 3 eggs and coffee. went to big c to figure out what was wrong with my damn sony cell. apparently the m2 memory card went bad. how is that possible? those m2s are like the most expensive memory card you can buy. anyway, paid 700 baht for another 2 gb card. what a waste. tonight went to pattaya garden. yea, still same old lame 70s and 80s music sh-t. had their maryland chicken and some ice tea for total 250 baht. left them 300 cause food not bad. while there, got this gal, edge of the bar. she a true beauty. claims to be in pattaya for only 2 months and her first time ever in pattaya garden (riiiggghhhtttt). had a great sense of humor. now that the sony operational took picts. she very exotic. she could have been on that show with tyra banks with all those female models (forgot the name). she wanted 1000 st. countered with 700 and quickly agreed. she a complete riot, and more importantly, huge titties. from issan. does not work in bar, and does not want to. who knows. damn she exotic looking. picture does her no justice at all. 26 years old, no kids, no silicon. had to eat her, and daty a long time. is that dangerous? anyway, smelled like roses. then she on top which my favorite position and we were at it lonnnnggggg time. paid her, and out the door she went.
now going to sleep. damn pattaya sucks. i hate it here.
-popper
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist;1179664]I returned after a year away to find the place ruined! The police are chasing away all young (under 20 officially and all newbies unofficially) women from Beach Road. All that is left are older (over 24) and more hard core putas. Tragic and harbinger of things to come. The freelancers were far and away the prettiest, younger (18-21) women in the area and now no more. The bars also only have 20 or 21 and up. All seem to be hard core and been around a long time! I have found nothing on the internet any where about this. Women on Beach Road tell me this started last year October and has gotten stricter under the new government, led by a woman. Any suggestions on where to find nice, not too experienced. 18-20 year olds? One woman told me under 20 was illegal in Thailand, but I cannot believe they changed the age of consent. It seems to be a local ordinance of some kind.[/QUOTE]I think they refer to the fact that under 20 is not allowed to work in any 'immoral' venue such as a bar or nightclub, or as a 'hostess'. And I'm sure they can round up those under 20 who are attempting to freelance. Just as I predicted the new government will be ending our fun soon enough. The last few years were just a slight reprieve anyway, and in any case never fully returned to the glory days.
But its definitely true. One hardly ever sees a new or young face on the Beach Road, just as you say. I think I have reported something like this over the last year. Its hardly worth visiting Pattaya anymore, and I can tell you the rest of Thailand is no picnic either. However, we have no choice but to still try to make the best of it, as every other country is even worse.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1180874]I think they refer to the fact that under 20 is not allowed to work in any 'immoral' venue such as a bar or nightclub, or as a 'hostess'. And I'm sure they can round up those under 20 who are attempting to freelance.But its definitely true. One hardly ever sees a new or young face on the Beach Road, just as you say. I think I have reported something like this over the last year. Its hardly worth visiting Pattaya anymore, and I can tell you the rest of Thailand is no picnic either. However, we have no choice but to still try to make the best of it, as every other country is even worse.[/QUOTE]If I am not wrong in Thailand a girl cannot go to a disco or club if she is below 20 (also as a guest) , go imagine working there. At least from a formal point of view.
This might not be related to legal age or what.
I recall the daughter of a friend sneaking through a legitimate club (Mango in Samui) as she was just over 19.
This was at least 4 years ago, so nothing to do with the colours in charge of the country.
Do not know what this is related to (alcohol or what)
On the last paragraph, it might well be that with a woman as PM she might be willing to protect women and the country image at the same time.
So hevily reducing some possibilities of fun.
The tourist trend is getting more and more family and group oriented, so the mongerers will represent a thinner and thinner slice of the general and legitimate tourist business (hotel, restaurant, transport etc)
Certainly it can affectd is the edge and borderline (from a general POV) business around go-go bars and all what is around
[QUOTE=Opebo;1180874]But its definitely true. One hardly ever sees a new or young face on the Beach Road, just as you say. I think I have reported something like this over the last year. Its hardly worth visiting Pattaya anymore, and I can tell you the rest of Thailand is no picnic either. However, we have no choice but to still try to make the best of it, as every other country is even worse.[/QUOTE]It depends on taste. Some people are content with what Pattaya is offering now and all the power to them.
There is no question, however, that things have changed in Pattaya, and I agree with you Opebo that Pattaya is hardly worth visiting anymore. Maybe just for a few days once in awhile.
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1180704]Am in town this trip for only just over a week. Very short trip. Sucks. Every day, extremely busy. Was not going to report, but figured now choice of contributing to this forum or watching Internet porn.
Now going to sleep. Damn Pattaya sucks. I hate it here.
-Popper[/QUOTE]Excellent report Popper1. Look's like you know where to find all the bargains! The girl in the pics looks very doable. Looking forward to my arrival on 9/3. I know a lot of regulars talk down the Pattaya of today, from years past. But it's like that in any of the locations I've visited (Dominican, Latin / Central and South America). However, as a newbie to Pattaya (second visit coming up) , Pattaya is still a novelty to me. Since I don't know what it was like 5 years ago, have no comparison to it today. Other than the pricey beer; the girls, food, hotels, taxi's and clothing, are all bargains to me. Costs of girls I've flavored in my prior destinations are generally $60 to $150 (mostly ST, very few LT for those prices) , so no comparison with Pattaya girls at all.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1180976]It depends on taste. Some people are content with what Pattaya is offering now and all the power to them. There is no question, however, that things have changed in Pattaya, and I agree with you Opebo that Pattaya is hardly worth visiting anymore. Maybe just for a few days once in awhile.[/QUOTE]It's all about choice and attitude. If you have other choices that you feel are better, for whatever reason, you can choose them. Unfortunately, logistics and resources more often than not, dictate one's choices in life.
However, if you have a positive attitude, you can have fun just about anywhere, even in Pattaya! ;)
Now going to sleep. Damn Pattaya sucks. I hate it here.
-Popper[/QUOTE]Nice report. Yep, Pattaya sucks, that's why I am going back.
Hi Guys,
There have been a lot of moans about Pattaya recently.
OK. It may not be as good as it was X number of years ago but where the hell is?
Also, our memories are 'rather selective' when looking back and we only seem to remember the GOOD times!
Anyway, Pataya 'is what it is' and we can not change that. Best that we just 'try' to enjoy what is so readily available there.
I have traveled to more than 40 different countries and I have to say that, for ME, a few days in Pattaya compares favorably with ANY other destination, world wide, as a value for money location for our hobby.
There are few destinations ANYWHERE that can give a man so much choice.
Asian, Black and Slavic girls are all readily available. Girls from, Disco's, Bar Beer's, Massage shops, Go-Go's, Part timers, Street meat and Civilians are ALL available.
So, for any 'Newbee's' that may be put off by the moans and complaints then DON'T BE!
There is something in Pattaya for EVERYONE and with prices from 500 (or less) to 5, 000 (or more) Baht. It is still my belief that Pattaya is probably STILL in the top 10, possibly the top 5, value for money mongering destinations WORLD WIDE.
Just ENJOY,
I do!
Hotman
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1181053]There is something in Pattaya for EVERYONE and with prices from 500 (or less) to 5, 000 (or more) Baht. It is still my belief that Pattaya is probably STILL in the top 10, possibly the top 5, value for money mongering destinations WORLD WIDE.
Hotman[/QUOTE]I am curious what would be your top 5. I am headed to Pattaya next month, and hope to have this location be #1 for me.
Chris H
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1174394]One of my non-pros just got promoted the other day from receptionist to assistant manager. She said she will be making 9, 000 baht / month. And my MILF high school teacher makes 30,000 baht/month.[/QUOTE]An optometrist in Pattaya earns 8, 000 baht / month plus commission on the sales.
[QUOTE=Chris H; 1181086]I am curious what would be your top 5. I am headed to Pattaya next month, and hope to have this location be #1 for me.
Chris H[/QUOTE]1) Phnom Penh (less girls, but still the cheapest)
2) Angeles (nothing else around except the bars)
3) Subic Bay / Puerto Galera (beach action in the Philippines)
4) Pattaya (still the best if you want to spend a little more money)
5) Saigon (a value only if you are experienced)
Honorable Mention: Bali & China (not enough experience to judge) and Burma & India (no personal experiences).
[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1181197]1) Phnom Penh (less girls, but still the cheapest)
2) Angeles (nothing else around except the bars)
3) Subic Bay / Puerto Galera (beach action in the Philippines)
4) Pattaya (still the best if you want to spend a little more money)
5) Saigon (a value only if you are experienced)
Honorable Mention: Bali & China (not enough experience to judge) and Burma & India (no personal experiences).[/QUOTE]India? India! Dear Heaven, I can see you have no personal experience. Just check out the India threads on this forum.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1181053]Hi Guys,
There have been a lot of moans about Pattaya recently.
OK. It may not be as good as it was X number of years ago but where the hell is?
Also, our memories are 'rather selective' when looking back and we only seem to remember the GOOD times!
Anyway, Pataya 'is what it is' and we can not change that. Best that we just 'try' to enjoy what is so readily available there.
I have traveled to more than 40 different countries and I have to say that, for ME, a few days in Pattaya compares favorably with ANY other destination, world wide, as a value for money location for our hobby.
There are few destinations ANYWHERE that can give a man so much choice.
Asian, Black and Slavic girls are all readily available. Girls from, Disco's, Bar Beer's, Massage shops, Go-Go's, Part timers, Street meat and Civilians are ALL available.
So, for any 'Newbee's' that may be put off by the moans and complaints then DON'T BE!
There is something in Pattaya for EVERYONE and with prices from 500 (or less) to 5, 000 (or more) Baht. It is still my belief that Pattaya is probably STILL in the top 10, possibly the top 5, value for money mongering destinations WORLD WIDE.
Just ENJOY,
I do!
Hotman[/QUOTE]I agree completely. But not only do our memories become selective, but our expectations rise.
The first time I came to Pattaya I thought it was heaven, based on the usual mixture of good, bad and ugly experiences. Now I expect only the best, and I'm disappointed when a girl isn't a star performer.
[QUOTE=Chris H; 1181086]I am curious what would be your top 5. I am headed to Pattaya next month, and hope to have this location be #1 for me.
Chris H[/QUOTE]Well if you are picking the top five VALUE FOR MONEY, or Best Bang per Buck, destinations then Pattaya (or, probably MOST of Thailand) would definitely be high on MY list.
Cambodia would also be there as would Argentina, and probably Indonesia (Batam & Jakarta.)
However I MUST stress that this is only based on a current 'VALUE FOR MONEY' rating.
I have had GREAT times with many memorable experiences in Brazil (especially Rio) but now, with the current rate of exchange, I would NOT put Brazil high in my value for money rankings.
Bolivia (Santa Cruz) also comes quite high on my VFM list although it is rather small and does not have the variety that many other of the locations offer.
However, if we are drawing up a list of destinations for the 'Best POSSIBLE experience' irrespective of price then I am SURE that a completely different list of destinations might well come up!
Hotman.
I've been here a long time, and am always chatting with Thais about their wages.
[QUOTE=Stakeout;1174329]Mm, I read somewhere that a good position at a decent hotel, say reception manager, they earn 200 bahts a day.[/QUOTE]Usually they quote it in monthly salary, and 8000-9, 000 baht is the norm for an ordinary receptionist at a middle range hotel, so a little more than what you quote, typically with just a couple of days off a month. At a middle to better range hotel the 'reception manager' would almost certainly make more like 12, 000 or even 15, 000.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1174394]One of my non-pros just got promoted the other day from receptionist to assistant manager. She said she will be making 9, 000 baht / month. And my MILF high school teacher makes 30,000 baht/month.[/QUOTE]This is accurate. Older civil servants such as high school teachers do quite well. (she must be pretty old!) They start low. About 10, 000 / month. But with a guaranteed raise every year and excellent benefits and security it is an great job. They even used to not have to do anything, but alas that has changed with neo-liberal influence on Thai society.
[QUOTE=Cungong;1181177]An optometrist in Pattaya earns 8, 000 baht / month plus commission on the sales.[/QUOTE]That sounds about right, but I doubt that the person is qualified in the same way an 'optometrist' back home would be. I go to an actual ophthalmologist, and he drives a Mercedes. I don't know his income precisely of course, but I'll bet it is closer to 80K than 8K. Please, gentlemen, don't every buy spectacles from the shops around Pattaya. Go to a real ophthalmologist.
I spent 5 days in Pattaya last week after my vacation in Vietnam. Pattaya is a classic destination in Europe among bachelors who travel to Thailand so I wanted to visit the place and see it with my own eyes. The 5 days I spent there turned our to be one the best of my travelling history.
First of all my hotel Siam Bayshore resort and spa was fantastic. The location is perfect, just 5 min walk to the bars and discos on walking street but still far enough from all the noise. And as I requested a quiet room I got one in the back buildings in the garden area. The room was excellent, both bath tub and a shower and a nice balcony. 2 swimming pools with good pool bar and great service. A bit more pricey though but who gives a shit on a 5 days vacation if the beer costs 2€ or 3€ or 4€ in the pool bar. After all I did not took so many beers there. Since the beaches in Pattaya aren't that nice I was happy to have such a great pool in the hotel.
On my first night I started touring the agogo bars around 21. 00 in the evening. Went to many places, Airport, Baccara, Dollhouse, Supergirl, Superbaby, Shark, Alcatraz etc. Just wanted to check the quality of the girls in different places. Well this was not a cheap way of starting the vacation in Pattaya since you have to drink in each bar if you want to look around. Finally I settled down in Airport as I found this place to be one of the best in terms of facilities and girls. They had jacuzzi show and also another stage where naked girls spanked eachother with some kind of rubber stick. This looked hilarious and the sound of the spanking even more fun. I asked one of the girls if that hurts and she said a bit, LOL. One of the girls spanking was really big breasted, natural boobs, and I winked her to talk with me as I was thinking of barfining this girl. She asked for a lady drink and I said sure. Well she ordered a glass of red wine + another lady drink for herself. We had a zip and suddenly she said I have to go and disappeared. I was pissed of and drank the drinks and left the bar. Had to get more money from the hotel, took a drink and the headed back to the walking street. At this moment I was a bit drunk, but not wasted by any means. After wondering a while on the street I spotted 3 girls in front of a bar and one of them caught especially my attention. Nice face and smile, slim body and extremely big and nice looking breasts in a black shirt revealing the cleavage. Unusually big for a thai girl. I was sure they are either fake or then saggy, normally this is my luck. We went in to Insomnia club and there things were getting promising. The girl was dancing and rubbing her body against mine. She was quite drunk but what the hell. We went to Lucifer disco, then to one of the beers bars and then headed back to my hotel. She passed out quickly on my bed and I helped to undress her. Then she went to the toilet to throw up. After she took a shower and when she returned I could not believe my eyes. This girl had absolutely the best breasts I have ever seen on a Thai girl, soft but round and perky C cups with really small nipples and areolas. At this point the sex was not working since we were both too drunk. We tried again in the morning but she was not feeling too well so we stopped after a few minutes. At this point I thought shit, such a nice body and no sex. I asked if she wants to spend the day with me and she said yes but wanted to change her clothes. So we went to her friends apartment and she got changed. After that we went back to my hotel for a siesta. She told me she is working in Bangkok in some soapy massage parlour and was in Pattaya just to party a few days. She did not want to tell me which massage parlour she worked and I told her it is not important for me, I don't even want to know. We went to eat in the afternoon and then back to my hotelroom. At this point the girl was feeling OK so I asked for sex. We took shower and then went to bed. She said to me first that cannot boom boom with you, you are too big (I am not). Well she finally relaxed and the following 30 min I was in heaven fucking the dream body of my life and she was active in the bed as well. Plus her pussy felt so nice and tight. After reaching orgasm I had a wide smile on my face. We spent the rest of the day relaxing and in the evening played pool and had drinks. She looked extremely hot in a sexy black top, denim shorts and high heels and had a nice make up as well. It was a pleasure to watch her playing pool and how her breats swinged as she shot the poolstick. She came over for one more night, again completely drunk and left on the following day home to Isaan. I gave her 4000 bath since she stayed with me almost 2 night and days and she was not complaining. Of course I spent a lot more money on the drinks and foo but I did not give a shit, spend money on a vacation, save at home! The only drawback was that she liked to party more than have sex but hey, that's what 21 year old girls do when they come for a short break from work. She told me that she did not come to Pattaya for earning extra money and I believe her since she did not ask for a money at any point. Of course I could not have payed her at all but since I had good time with her I wanted to give her the 4000 THB and have not regret this for a second since I had the ultimate intercourse with her on one afternoon, one that I remember for the rest of my life!
For the remaining 2 days I had no pressure to find more girls but anyway ended up fucking 2 more.
First was a ST bargirl from Sharks. 21 year old Isaan chick with nice body and also really beautiful natural C cups. Perfectly shaped. She did not want to stay LT because she did not know me as she said so we had ST. Next day I saw her again in Sharks and she asked immediately if I want to take her with a smile on her face. I refused because wanted to see a few more bars-mistake! Returned to Sharks after 1 hour and she had already another customer. If you snooze you lose! There was another young girl with big natural breasts but she did not give me any response when I tried to make contact. Well there are plenty of fish in the sea I thought and left the bar.
Went to Insomnia bar and spotted a really slim girl with a nice yellow dress. I did not had this kind of ultra slim girl during my trip and wanted to try her. She was a 21 year old freelancer and asked for 2000 bath for LT. I agreed and we went to my hotel. We took a bath together, had one round of sex in the night and another in the morning. Nice girl, ultra slim body and tight pussy as well despite she had young child and had given natural birth. Silicon breasts which are not my favourite but after having 2 perfect set of naturals already in Pattaya I did not mind. After she left I checked out and took a bus to Bangkok for some final adventures.
I found Pattaya to be nice place and the selection of girls plentiful. I stayed mostly in the walking street area. Went to Soi 6 once during the day just to see this place but did not have any sex. The girls were not that nice IMO and I prefer hotel sex to the upstairs of a bar room sex allways. Also I did not check the billiard bars that much, only played pool in soi 7 with my first night honey.
The agogo bars had as pretty girls as in Bangkok and I found that Pattaya had more girls with big natural breasts where in Bangkok almost all the big ones were silicon. But surely the situation is changing all the time. I liked best Airport and Sharks in Pattaya. Superbaby and Supergirl also OK but did not barfine any from there.
Every man has different taste so it is useless to list the "best" bars and agogos in the town in my opinion. Normally the ones that have more girls have also more chance to have more pretty ones in the line up.
I keep reading in this forum that Pattaya has gone downhill. Well I have no comparison since this was my first visit but I had extremely good luck with the girls and found the types I was looking for. Especially the girl I met first night made my trip to Pattaya a pure bliss. And it seems that during the low season there are not that many punters around as in high season but still plenty of girls. I prefer always to travel to Asia in low season, more laid back.
I wish I could go back soon but no chance before next year. And next time I don't even bother to read this forum beforehand as I did now. I know now that there are so many girls around and the situiation changing all the time that I simply just go there and make the best out of it.
Have fun out there and remember that "to look for perfection is all very well but to look for heaven is to live here in hell.".Sting.
-Kep
[QUOTE=Chris H; 1181086]I am curious what would be your top 5. I am headed to Pattaya next month, and hope to have this location be #1 for me.
Chris H[/QUOTE]It all depends on what you want.
If you just want value, I have negotiated Tijuana working girls for $10. However, It is not a mongering destination.
For just plain wall to wall pussy for a cheap price, Angeles.
I like the overall experience. For that, Thailand can't be beat. The infrastructure, hotels, food, activites, some decent beaches, fairly safe in my opnion, friendly people, lots of pussy.
Thailand is higher than some areas, but still a good value for the developed world.
[QUOTE=Keppana;1181393]I spent 5 days in Pattaya last week after my vacation in Vietnam. Pattaya is a classic destination in Europe among bachelors who travel to Thailand so I wanted to visit the place and see it with my own eyes. The 5 days I spent there turned our to be one the best of my travelling history.-Kep[/QUOTE]Hmmmmmm, it is nice to see that SOMEONE still thinks Pattaya is good!
Glad you had fun Kep.
Hotman.
[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1181425]Hmmmmmm, it is nice to see that SOMEONE still thinks Pattaya is good!
Glad you had fun Kep.
Hotman.[/QUOTE]Hotman,
Thanks for your comment. No matter what people post nowadays on the forum I had great time in Pattaya. Maybe the reason I have never been there before and seen the "good old days" helped since I did not have a reference. The fact that I saw twice fantastic natural breasts in Pattaya was great for me since I like big natural rack and had never seen such nice ones in Thailand before. Only small tits or bolt ones.
Compared to my last vacation in Thailand 3 years ago when I was in Bangkok, Koh Samui and Koh Tao this trip was definately better in terms of sexy girls. And that is always nice when things are moving to a better direction while one gets older.
Will be back some day but before that still plenty of coutries and places to explore.
-Kep
[QUOTE=Keppana; 1181393]I spent 5 days in Pattaya last week after my vacation in Vietnam. Pattaya is a classic destination in Europe among bachelors who travel to Thailand so I wanted to visit the place and see it with my own eyes. The 5 days I spent there turned our to be one the best of my travelling history.
Thanks for your report. Now I am getting even more anxious to get back there.
[QUOTE=Incel; 1179845]Ahh. I know where to get them!
Sadly I won't tell.
I found 2 girls with a great lack of experience this trip, one on soi 6 who was 18 and I was her second customer and second dick inside her. Yes no joke.
She wanted to learn everything, she really didn't know anything. The body was ofcourse amazing and looks. Ohmygod!
Good she had a nice guy like me.
The second was 25, but I was her first customer. She was horryfied to have sex with a farang, but it was ok after.
Ok, I tell you. She work on the bar on the right of LK rennisance on Soi diana.[/QUOTE]If you actually believe a hooker in Pattaya, you are a FOOL!
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1181338]You forgot to mention a good sense of humor and poor eyesight.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sangkid;1181337]Come on. You expect the worst & are happy if you find a moderate performer.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sangkid;1181336]Same old bullshit. If you really have internet in your room. Watch it.[/QUOTE]Dude, please share where else in the world that you been to, not read about, that has more venues, more available beautiful women, and the best value for the buck than Pattaya. Or are just trying to get to 100 posts by just bashing everyone's opinion on Pattaya? Pattaya is still one of the best destinations in the world for mongering, especially if you are looking for that GFE and like Asian women. Just because you could not find the woman of your dreams on Beach Road is no reason to bash the place. BTW, did you even look in the discos?
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist;1179664]I returned after a year away to find the place ruined! The police are chasing away all young (under 20 officially and all newbies unofficially) women from Beach Road. All that is left are older (over 24) and more hard core putas. Tragic and harbinger of things to come. The freelancers were far and away the prettiest, younger (18-21) women in the area and now no more. The bars also only have 20 or 21 and up. All seem to be hard core and been around a long time! I have found nothing on the internet any where about this. Women on Beach Road tell me this started last year October and has gotten stricter under the new government, led by a woman. Any suggestions on where to find nice, not too experienced. 18-20 year olds? One woman told me under 20 was illegal in Thailand, but I cannot believe they changed the age of consent. It seems to be a local ordinance of some kind.[/QUOTE]As far as I remember, over 3 decades, the youngest and the hottest women in Pattaya have always been in the clubs. You have to ask yourself one question,"Why would a hot 18-20 year old free lance on Beach Road, when she could have the security and support of a Mamasan in a large go go?" Not to mention the camaraderie of other girls that are in her own situation. A lot of these girls even get feed by the clubs. The real money and security for the young ones are in the clubs.
I just returned from 8 nights in Pattaya, and yes, there were plenty of 18-20 year old girls working in the go-gos. I actually met a few girls that were 17. If you are looking for 18-20 year old girls, go to the source, talk to Mamasan. If fact, if you like the club, I highly recommend buying Mamasan a drink; doors will open.
Trip report to follow.
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1181697]Great report. Should be in the 'Reports of Distinction. '
Such a change from reading all the BS and the guys spending hours searching the beach for their 50 Baht fuck with diamond that is just not there. Of course you found what you were looking for because you were looking in the right place. Yes this involved spending more than 50 Baht but you came to Pattaya to party and you didn't care.
Great stuff.[/QUOTE]Hilarious. And very true!
Without being a waster I still can't understand the race to save the 50B. Or so.
Each one his own, of course.
My April trip to Jakarta and Macau had been an exercise in changing plans on the fly, and the final Thailand leg was no exception. My initial plan had been to spend a couple of days in Pattaya and then finish up with two in Bangkok. I never made it to Bangkok itself; Pattaya seems to have that affect on people.
After my flight from Macau to Bangkok airport I took the Rong Reuang bus to Pattaya for 124 Baht; in retrospect I should have taken the slightly more expensive Bell bus for 200 Baht that included a van drop off at my hotel (I didn't since I had not yet settled on a hotel). Since this was my maiden voyage to Pattaya I didn't know the lay of the land and ended up walking from the bus stop a longer distance than ideal in the heat and humidity, but a fellow American did help me find my way. A taxi driver did give me short lift to the Opey De Place Hotel on Soi Lengkee. A 4th floor deluxe room was available for 990 Baht; it was a bit simpler than I would normally associate with 'deluxe, ' but was clean and had ac, tv, and a balcony. The pool, in a courtyard filled with greenery, was a nice feature that I didn't use as much as I wanted. The hotel's main advantage was its location on a relatively calm side street but near the intersection of Soi Diana and Soi Buakhao and a short walk from Soi LK Metro, putting it within reach of attractions.
I began my walking tour of Pattaya at around 7 that evening, and it frankly overwhelmed me. Despite all I had read about the place, I wasn't ready for the scale of the sex. The problem was, with so many options I passed – the beer bars, BJ clubs on Soi Post Office, etc. – I didn't know where to begin. I was tempted by the girls on Beach Road, who looked much better than I had expected, but I wondered if that was due to the dark so I passed. Heading over to walking Street didn't help my indecision, with the endless Go-go bars and distractions of the carnival atmosphere. While I looked on at a street performer in front of Lucifer's Disco, I noticed four or five cuties standing in front of another bar. A petite one in a tight black shirt and pants really attracted me, so I went up to her to say Hi, and we soon got around to the business of her coming to my hotel. Her name was Goockai.
Goockai asked for 1, 000 Baht for short time. I had remembered reading about Lucifer's freelancers going for 1, 000 Baht, but didn't remember if it was for short or long time. At this point, though, I was sold on going to bed with this girl, an absolute sweetie with a spunky attitude. So I went along with her price and we took a motorbike back to the hotel. We had a great couple of hours. I loved licking every part of Goockai's tiny 22-year old body, from her little eraser nipples to her tight pussy, and moving her around into plenty of positions. It was such a good time that at the end I asked her to stay overnight. Her price was an additional thousand, and of course at that point I had absolutely zero leverage so I agreed. We resumed for another hour or so, and after drifting to sleep resumed for a long morning session. We headed out for lunch together at a good Thai kitchen popular with a lot of other mongerers and their dates. I ended up spending each of my four nights in Pattaya with Goockai. I realized that I had probably paid a bit more than the going rate (2, 000 Baht long time) , but besides the night sessions we spent long mornings busy with each other.
After lunch with Goockai, which I had thought might be a farewell meal, I took a swim at my hotel pool. Refreshing – which I needed, since my main afternoon destination would be Devil's Den on nearby Soi LK Metro. I had been to Eden twice on a visit to Bangkok a few years before, so I was used to the set up. Notable about Devil's Den was the outstanding service provided by the American manager John. I wish every business I patronized had someone at the helm with such a sense of courtesy and hospitality. I also wish that every business I patronized in the rest of my life had a manager who knew which girls liked to lick each other's pussy or loved anal. And his intimate knowledge about the Devil's Den girls and recommendations were spot on. When I was ready to select the girls lined up against the wall across from the bar. It's not quite a Macau Sauna-level lineup, but I wasn't displeased.
I spotted a couple of cuties on opposite sides of the anal line that really stood out: curvy Dew (did it) and slender Taylor (didn't do it). The manager confirmed that they played well together, and so we were off. They led me up to a room, and into one of the best threesomes of my life. It could have been their attitudes – these girls could have had the brightest on-stop smiles of any I had been with. Or it might have been the incongruity of it all: here were two of the cutest girls I would ever be with, girls with such innocent faces, and they were taking me on a porno-quality romp, including activities like fucking Dew in the ass while she was riding Taylor's strap-on dildo in cowgirl. I thought I would bring down the ceiling while slamming Dew in the sex swing, but it felt like the room shook more when I came in Taylor's oh-so-cute mouth. A well-spent 4, 000 Baht (including tips and drinks).
I needed another swim after that. I got even more soaked walking to Beach Road in the humidity later that afternoon. The girls there impressed me again, on the whole they looked young and fit enough, but that night was intended to be my last in Pattaya before heading to Bangkok, and my main goal was to check out the Go-go's. But just as I was heading off to have some dinner at a dish restaurant, I spotted a familiar face sitting on a bench under a tree: Goockai. So it turned out she was a Beach Road girl as well as a Lucifer's / Walking Street freelancer. I went up to her and she greeted me warmly, and discussed meeting up later that night. (I also saw the American who had helped me get my bearings the day before; so it turned out he was not just a real estate businessman!).
Over on Walking Street after dinner I made the rounds. I stopped into Baccarat, where the girls looked fine but I didn't feel like squeezing in among the crowd, and Baby Doll, where the girls looked young but just too Japanese-style mechanical. I had read about Windmill being a pretty raunchy place, so I dropped in to see the shower and dildo shows, among other debaucheries. But the women were just not that good looking and a few of them looked just a little too young for comfort. So I moved on.
On to Goockai. I really liked our sessions the night before and that morning, and wanted to get with her again. So I called her and she met me near my hotel. We ate some street food; Goockai turned out to be quite the culinary guide. She looked amazing in a tiny black skirt, which gave me some ideas when we got up to the room. I took her out to the balcony and we began to kiss. I sat down in a chair and unzipped my fly and took my cock out of my pants, and slipped on a condom. I pulled her over to me and slid her panties aside, and eased her onto my dick. She rode me a little while and then I picked her up while we were still engaged, and lay her on her back on the bed and fucked her with our clothes still on. We eventually got naked until sleep called, and repeated throughout the next morning. When I did wake, holding naked Goockai next to me, I called the front desk and asked if I could stay another night. I got a yes, and so I added a day to my Pattaya stay and sliced another from Bangkok.
A nice thing about Opey De Place hotel is that it's across the street from Le Katai guesthouse / restaurant, which serves some tasty English breakfasts, important for recovering some energy after a busy night. Goockai and I ate there and agreed to meet again that night. When she asked, I told her that I had in mind some swimming and a foot massage in mind for that day, but I imagine she knew that I had other activities planned (She must have known since over the course of our time together it became more and more a struggle to cum!).
The day's first stop: Devil's Den again. I like diversity in my erotic activities, but I knew that there aren't too many places like it: guaranteed great service and effort for a fair price. I can't think of too many other venues where the girls will work so hard, and do whatever t takes, to make sure that you get off. I was so pleased with the previous day's session with Dew and Taylor that I asked the manager if they were available, but they were with other lucky guys. Instead I went for Ning, a pro tart whom I had noticed outside wearing the red plastic devil outfit I had seen on DD's website. Once I chose her I couldn't settle on another girl, so I just asked her and she picked out an innocent little thing, a Chinese-looking girl with cute bangs named Cherie, who apparently was still in training. In the room the 'training day' situation turned out to be a little less hot than I had expected. Both girls worked hard, Ning to make sure I enjoyed anal with her and Cherie to ensure that she sucked all the cum from my cock.
But the awesome attitude I enjoyed with Dew and Taylor just wasn't there with Ning and Cherie. I had sensed this from the start, so I quickly stepped out by giving the excuse that I wanted to order a drink. But when I got downstairs I asked the manager if I could book with Dew and Taylor for later that afternoon. He checked their schedules, they were available at 6PM, and we set it up. By the time I finished with Ning and Cherie I had an hour to grab a pub dinner before my repeat session with Taylor and Dew. They had their work cut out for them, since my energy was flagging. But they were all smiles and endlessly willing to indulge my fantasies, whether it was Dew and I licking Taylor's pussy together, or me fucking Taylor on her back as Dew sat on her face, Dew and I locked in a wet kiss.
After almost three days I still hadn't pulled a girl from a Go-go. This was a must-do, so that evening I headed for Walking Street. For no particular reason except (maybe the decent drink special advertised on the sign outside) I went up to the X-Zone on Soi 16 off Walking Street. The girl that most caught my eye was one of the door hostesses, but she told me during a chat that the mamasan was her mom and didn't let her go with customers. So I took in the view of the table shows, including a close up look at a cutie fucking another girl with a strap-on dildo. The recipient of the dildo, Anh, was sexy, lithe, and limber, so after her showtime I arranged to go with her. The bar fine was 800 and short time 1, 500. It wasn't cheap, and unfortunately it wasn't worth it. Back at my hotel Anh was rather cold and distant, even robotic. I almost counted down the minutes until the session was over.
On the schedule for later that night was another date with Goockai, but first I wanted to make up for the unsatisfactory experience with the girl from X-Zone so I walked over to check out the Go-go's on Soi LK Metro. I stopped into Champagne but quickly left since it was too crowded, and dropped in to M*A*S*H where I had a beer and scoped out those camouflage-clad girlies. Across the street, The Office turned out to be the favorite Go-go of my trip. The vibe and the music were great, the girls looked outstanding, and some ranked among the best dancers I had ever seen. Among the lookers who caught my eye was Noi. When I gave her a smile she and a friend joined me at my seat against the wall, and some friendly banter, lady drinks, and groping followed (though the family seated nearby made this uncomfortable. See related post).
Noi invited me to see her and her friend in a shower show in a few minutes, and when they started the naked rub a dub dub I took a seat next to them. I lent a hand, and by now Noi's glistening slender nude body had me wishing I hadn't committed to see Goockai so soon (it was about half an hour until I was to meet her). So I reluctantly put aside any thoughts of barfining Noi, paid my bill, and left to get ready to see Goockai. On the walk over to the hotel I decided that I would try to squeeze in a short time quickie with Noi so I called Goockai and suggested getting together a couple of hours later at around 1AM. Her response: 'Are you with another girl? ' I quickly reassured her I was just out having drinks, and returned to The Office. Just in time to see Noi getting ready to leave, having been barfined by an older guy. All in the space of 20 minutes!
I walked back in defeat to the hotel, called Goockai, and convinced her to come over. The disappointment over missing out on Noi soon evaporated when I saw Goockai in her tight short-shorts, and we repeated with another hot night. The next morning, during a break in our typical long morning romp, I called the font desk and asked to stay one more night. It was official: Bangkok was out for this trip, and I would have one more full day to enjoy Pattaya.
after another long morning session with goockai we went to lunch; whenever she got hungry, she loudly let me know about it. for a small girl, she had a big appetite and could really eat! after eating i reserved my early afternoon for some innocent thai pleasures: a good foot and shoulder massage at a place across from the hotel, as i waited out a heavy rain shower. i also took a traditional oil massage from the sexy masseuse, but my hope that extras would be offered went unfulfilled.
i did know a place where my desires would be fulfilled; i had to get back to devil's den, not knowing when i would get back to a place like it. another session with taylor and dew was not in the cards, as neither was available, but the manager john steered me toward luck and celine, and they did not disappoint. on the way out i suggested to john that they install a firehouse pole to make it easier for customers, legs turned to rubber after a wild session, to get from the rooms down to the bar.
as i ate dinner i realized that my remaining hours in pattaya were waning. to make the most of my time, and because i needed a trip to an oily massage parlor to make this a true thai vacation, i headed over to dream teen massage on soi 21 just off soi buakhao. the girls out front were young and cute, and the one recommended to me, cream, fit this mold as well. i observed a big difference between her and the other girls, though: her height, and her ass. as she led me upstairs i eagerly watched her voluptuous buns sway beneath a tight plaid skirt. when we proceeded with our special massage i made sure to finish with her lying face down as i grinded into and clutched her wonderful ass. an oily like dream teen may not be the greatest value in pattaya (1, 900 baht) compared with a bar girl session, but it is quick and easy to set up and the girls are cute.
soi lk metro became my main venue for the night. i dropped into submarine go-go, with its creative design and cute dancers (one tiny girl in the shower show wowed me) , and unfortunately terrible beer. then off to the office. i didn't waste any time this night; i found noi and barfined her (bf, st and lady drinks came to 2, 400 baht). at the hotel we had drinks on the balcony and embarked on a slow, sensual session. noi was slender with an elegance that would serve her well as an escort in a major european city if she chose. she surprised me when she told me that she was 29 years old – she had the sophistication to match her age, but i would have pegged her as in her early or at most mid-20s by the look of her body.
my checklist still had a blank spot for a blow job bar; i had never actually been serviced at such an establishment, though i had peeked into kangaroo bar in bangkok a few years back. this trip i didn't end up having time to get over to the soi post office joints or anything on soi 6, but [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s on soi lk metro was conveniently close at hand. i had passed it a few times before and the women sitting outside didn't impress, but this night there were a couple of decent looking ones there. my overall impression? [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s was way too nice, not nearly sleazy enough for an authentic bj bar experience. that said, it's plush and very well managed (the american manager is a good guy, i enjoyed conversing with him over a beer). i did have a good time with the girl i took upstairs. i took off my pants and sat on the couch as she proceeded with what she does best, after taking her own clothes off. i liked the bbbj+cim and the view in the multiple mirrors, but truth be told it wasn't one of the best blow jobs i ever received. i guess i set my expectations too high, but since she told me she had worked at star of light in bangkok i was a bit surprised that the bj was not mind blowing (so to speak). i did appreciate her friendly attitude, and the experience was worth the 700 baht (but a better deal would have been spending an extra 300 for full service).
i walked back from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s knowing that i had only one encounter left in pattaya. as agreed, i called goockai to let her know to come over. it felt like an eternity waiting for her as i checked email in the hotel lobby, but then i felt a little burst of air in my ear: goockai had snuck up on me. she suggested we go out for a while, and she took me a covered cluster of beer bars on a few blocks over on soi buakhao in the direction of central pattaya road. in fact, she took me to her own beer bar (she had quite a repertoire: walking street freelancer, beach road girl, beer bar bargirl). we returned to the hotel and had a final few hours together.
this stretch of four nights and mornings (and meals!) with goockai was my first 'girlfriend for a week' experience. i enjoyed it immensely, and that it allowed combination of companionship with the freedom to enjoy myself with other girls. i loved spending time with this girl, beyond the sex – her endearing / annoying laugh and frequent singing, good food suggestions, the way she gave to beggars on the street, seeing the pictures of her daughter on her phone. and the way she could look at one moment adorable and the next sultry and sexy. goockai helped me arrange my early morning taxi to bangkok suvarnabhumi airport (1, 000 baht) , and as we parted she said something about taking care of me – she definitely did, and that was a perfect way to end this trip to pattaya.
I wonder if anyone else has noticed some not-so-typical visitors to Pattaya Go-go clubs like I saw back in April. At The Office on Soi LK Metro I saw an older white man (maybe Russian?) with two women in their 20s or 30s who looked like his daughters. Much more surprising, I was at The Office as a family came in. The white father brought along his teenage son, maybe 15 years old (who looked very uncomfortable) , but also his two blonde daughters who couldn't have been older than 8 or 9 years old. There was a Thai woman with them who I assume was the father's wife or girlfriend. Maybe she had worked at the club (she did seem to know some of the dancers) and wanted to show the family her (former) workplace? Maybe it was a way to 'legitimize' her work or give another sort of lesson to the kids? I don't know, but they sat and watched the topless dancers, nude shower show, etc. The whole time I was there. Worse, they were sitting not far from me while I was fondling and getting fondled by two dancers. That put a damper on my mood; having the minors nearby made me rather distracted and frankly annoyed. I'm all for promoting openness about sex but I felt that it was out of line for that father to bring his kids into the club, and the management shouldn't have allowed them to enter. We mongerers need places where we can escape the kiddies!
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1181615]I just returned from 8 nights in Pattaya, and yes, there were plenty of 18-20 year old girls working in the go-gos. I actually met a few girls that were 17.[/QUOTE]Which gogos? What were the prices?
[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1181775]I wonder if anyone else has noticed some not-so-typical visitors to Pattaya Go-go clubs like I saw back in April. At The Office on Soi LK Metro I saw an older white man (maybe Russian?) with two women in their 20s or 30s who looked like his daughters. Much more surprising, I was at The Office as a family came in. The white father brought along his teenage son, maybe 15 years old (who looked very uncomfortable) , but also his two blonde daughters who couldn't have been older than 8 or 9 years old. There was a Thai woman with them who I assume was the father's wife or girlfriend. Maybe she had worked at the club (she did seem to know some of the dancers) and wanted to show the family her (former) workplace? Maybe it was a way to 'legitimize' her work or give another sort of lesson to the kids? I don't know, but they sat and watched the topless dancers, nude shower show, etc. The whole time I was there. Worse, they were sitting not far from me while I was fondling and getting fondled by two dancers. That put a damper on my mood; having the minors nearby made me rather distracted and frankly annoyed. I'm all for promoting openness about sex but I felt that it was out of line for that father to bring his kids into the club, and the management shouldn't have allowed them to enter. We mongerers need places where we can escape the kiddies![/QUOTE]Eurpeans are very open about sex. However, I have to question a parent's wisdom to take a young family stroll down WS, much less into a bar on WS. I too would have been uncomfortable playing with a scantily clad honey with young kids loking on.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1181815]Eurpeans are very open about sex. However, I have to question a parent's wisdom to take a young family stroll down WS, much less into a bar on WS. I too would have been uncomfortable playing with a scantily clad honey with young kids loking on.[/QUOTE]One of the gogos in Patts lavished attention on a boy, could not have been older than 13; two girls groping him whilst dad in the next booth watched on. Keepin' the mongering all in the family. Odd, I say. But, hey, at least they weren't serving him booze.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1181815]Eurpeans are very open about sex. However, I have to question a parent's wisdom to take a young family stroll down WS, much less into a bar on WS. I too would have been uncomfortable playing with a scantily clad honey with young kids loking on.[/QUOTE]I grew up in San Francisco, California (USA) in the 1960s. One of my fondest memories as a boy was driving down Broadway Boulevard and seeing the go-go dancers in elevated plexi-glass boxes outside the clubs. Even better was the larger than life photos of Carol Doda with her 44DDs outside the Condor Club.
This was post-beatnik San Francisco. There was drugs and debauchery everywhere you looked. The friendly ladies outside the Walking Street clubs are fairly tame in comparison. Funny thing, the Condor Club is still there today, but the Carol Doda placards are long gone!
[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1181774]After another long morning session with Goockai we went to lunch; whenever she got hungry, she loudly let me know about it. For a small girl, she had a big appetite and could really eat!.And the way she could look at one moment adorable and the next sultry and sexy. Goockai helped me arrange my early morning taxi to Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport (1, 000 Baht) , and as we parted she said something about taking care of me – she definitely did, and that was a perfect way to end this trip to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Hi Ibn Buttita,
Great report. Thank you. I'm heading to Pattaya nexy week and really looking forward to trip. In my last two trips (Aug10 & Feb11) I hooked up with a lovely girl called Kuckkai who was 22, had a young daughter who would be 2 years old now who lived with Kuckkai's mother in Bangkok and wonder if it's the same girl. Once again, thanks for the report.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1181802]Which gogos? What were the prices?[/QUOTE]There were plenty of 18-20 year old dancers in Happy, Baby Dolls, Champion, a few in Rhino, and the same in Alcatraz. I only bar fined one out of Champion, she was 19. Bar fine was 600, short time was 1000 for the girl. I'm not a big fan of the young ones because they are inexperienced, and the girl from Champion was no different. As far as the 17 year old girls, I suggest you get to know the Mamasans and they are happy to disclose who they are. Their bar fines were the same as the others.
[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita; 1181774]After another long morning session with Goockai we went to lunch; whenever she got hungry, she loudly let me know about it. For a small girl, she had a big appetite and could really eat! After eating I reserved my early afternoon for some innocent Thai pleasures: a good foot and shoulder massage at a place across from the hotel, as I waited out a heavy rain shower. I also took a traditional oil massage from the sexy masseuse, but my hope that extras would be offered went unfulfilled.
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Sounds like you had one great trip. Love Devils Den too.
Spend three full weeks with Taylor in January / February. Best time I had in a long time.
Junior
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;1181815]Eurpeans are very open about sex. However, I have to question a parent's wisdom to take a young family stroll down WS, much less into a bar on WS. I too would have been uncomfortable playing with a scantily clad honey with young kids loking on.[/QUOTE]Being open to sex does not necessarily mean one can be such an idiot and bring kids to a stripper joint where there are also couples trying to "get to know each other" in a deeper way.
The joint should not allow them to enter as this, as you say too, will lead to unconfort of other customers.
Thanks for the comments, everyone. It was a fantastic trip, though I'm envious of anyone who gets to spend a longer, more relaxed stretch of time in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Junior;1181989]Sounds like you had one great trip. Love Devils Den too. Spend three full weeks with Taylor in January / February. Best time I had in a long time. Junior[/QUOTE]Taylor was amazing, and I really think she is the cutest girl I ever spent time with. She's not shown on the girls' page on the Devil's Den website anymore, although if do a Google search you do come to her page. Anyone know if that means she has left, just doing escorting for them, or is just on a break?
[QUOTE=Trantinr;1181943]Hi Ibn Buttita, Great report. Thank you. I'm heading to Pattaya nexy week and really looking forward to trip. In my last two trips (Aug10 & Feb11) I hooked up with a lovely girl called Kuckkai who was 22, had a young daughter who would be 2 years old now who lived with Kuckkai's mother in Bangkok and wonder if it's the same girl. Once again, thanks for the report.[/QUOTE]Those details sound like they match up, it likely could be her. Lovely is the perfect description for this girl. She's very sweet but also has a strength to her. Let us know if you get together with her.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1182004]Link of Distinction? Don't think so. Interestingly written with some nice touches such as walking from the bus stop and Goockai. But most it just reads like advertising copy.[/QUOTE]I bet there's an English Literature PhD candidate out there somewhere writing their dissertation on the style of writing on the ISG! I do find it a little tricky to put in practical information as well as capture the flavor of the places and encounters; for example, how Penthouse Forum-like to get when describing the actual sessions? The need to to fill in a phrase here or there when trying to get a report finally written (it takes me forever to get these out, I still have trips from last August to do) does lend itself to pulling out a hackneyed term here and there. But I mostly write these for myself as a kind of diary and so think they do capture the essence of those experiences.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1182004]What are the DD rates and how do you sign up? Baby Doll Mechanical? Really? If anything I think the mechanical term applies to DD?[/QUOTE]That's the interesting thing about Devil's Den; the girls are very well trained in what to do, and they get right into things if you don't ask for something in particular or make the first move at the beginning, but they were really not "mechanical" (except for Ning and Cherie to some extent, maybe because it was partially a training session for Cherie) , as far as I experienced. The others. Taylor, Dew, Luck, Celine. Were as service oriented as I've experienced anywhere, and had such friendly attitudes. I really think the smiles turned me on as much as anything else.
An hour's session at Devil's Den is 3, 600 Baht (plus drinks, and I tipped the girls at the end) , and each visit I just walked in, and each time there was just one other guy there, either on the way out or who had just walked in, so crowding was not an issue. It think a fair number of guys order girls to come to their hotels via phone or the website though, which is why some of the outstanding girls like Taylor and Dew are not always available.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1182004]Windmill no attractive girls? Maybe you should try Top Charoen? Disappointing experience with the Walking Street Go-Go Girl? Of course it was. A good experience would have pulled the readers attention away from DD. So no surprise there. And the Office turned out to be the best Go-Go bar with outstanding girls and the best dancers you've ever seen? Outstanding girls? The sooner you get to Top Charoen the better.[/QUOTE]That's a good recommendation for Top Charoen; I hadn't heard of it. Where is it? I found it really hard at the start to know how to approach the Go-go's, there's so many, and of course the issue of the girls is so subjective. What really sold the Soi LK Metro ones for me was the convenience in terms of proximity to my hotel, the lack of the Walking Street carnival atmosphere and crowds (which was fun at the start but a bit wearing) , and the fact that the clubs were well set up (clever decor, good seating arrangement, etc.). OK, and the girls too, I think The Office did recruit well.
[QUOTE=Sangkid;1182004]Before I sign off your quote below makes me think you've been to Pattaya before? 'This trip I didn't end up having time to get over to the Soi Post Office joints or anything on Soi 6.'[/QUOTE]No, it was my first trip to Pattaya, but I had read so much about some places that I felt I had been! That said, it was really a "have to see it to believe it" experience. The scale of what's available, the atmosphere, etc. I'm not sure when I'll get back, but I'll still be reading the forum about it.
[QUOTE=Sangkid; 1182004]Link of Distinction? Don't think so.
Interestingly written with some nice touches such as walking from the bus stop and Goockai. But most it just reads like advertising copy. What are the DD rates and how do you sign up?....[/QUOTE]
I believe you are not in a position to criticise Ibn Buttita's marvellous reports before you are able to come up with something better.
Ibn, keep the good work coming. It was my best read since the legendary stories of Evil Penivel. Living in Macau I enjoyed your reports about the Saunas. They are spot on.
Arrived in Pattaya after two nights in both Bangkok and Chiang Mai where the initial discharge of relief happened on all nights. I decided to check out a lot of Pattaya staying at Eastiny Seven for the first night, which of course is GF and close to a lot of beer bars. Checked most in the early evening and then proceeded to Beach Road to check the freelancers as well as the bars up to the beer garden. Saw and spoke to plenty available but really none grabbed me so after eating then proceeded to Walking St.
Checked a couple of Go Go places with nice girls but decided I wanted something a little older and experienced. Went back to beer bars on second road and there met a lady aged 29 who took my eye and spoke well with good english. Decided to buy a couple of lady drinks to to make sure of my choice and then about 11. 00pm bar fined her for 300 bf and after asking 2000 long time she dropped to 1000 which was fine for me. Back to hotel for a superb session and stayed all night and had a morning session before breakfast.
Not being happy with hotel I sent her home while I found a good hotel and then met her at 11. 00. She wanted to spend the day with me. Checked into Areca Lodge (girls no problem) with her and I decided she could stay another night. From then on the service just got superb to the point I had to slow her down at times as she was too much for me. Every time of the day when we arrived back at the hotel she would strip off naked and lay on the bed and you know what starts then.
Hotel was just across the road from LK Metro, so with my girl we visited many bars there. All good drinking and eating with plenty of available ladies. Things were so good for me I did something which was not normal for me. I kept my friend for 6 days where we lived together the whole time. It was so good I was sad to have to wave good bye to her. But have already booked my fare to Pattaya in November. If she is around, maybe. If not there are plenty of opportunities.
I decided Pattaya was so far ahead of Chiang Mai and Bangkok that next time I would head straight to Pattaya. By the way the scuba diving there is good as well.
Off to Ko Samui now and then to Phuket. I do not know what is in store for me but will find out.
[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita; 1181774]Nice report. Pattaya offers so much, I can't wait to get back there.
[QUOTE=Wes Man;1182113]I decided Pattaya was so far ahead of Chiang Mai and Bangkok that next time I would head straight to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Pattaya is a great place.
[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1182058]Taylor was amazing, and I really think she is the cutest girl I ever spent time with. She's not shown on the girls' page on the Devil's Den website anymore, although if do a Google search you do come to her page. Anyone know if that means she has left, just doing escorting for them, or is just on a break?[/QUOTE]I was there last month and Taylor had left Devils Den at the end of may. Not sure whether it is for good. Hopefully she will return by December when my next visit is scheduled.
Junior
[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1181950]I only bar fined one out of Champion, she was 19. Bar fine was 600, short time was 1000 for the girl.[/QUOTE]What other gogos are you guys getting girls to go for 1000ST? It seemed like almost all gogs around LK metro (except Blue) had girls going for 1000ST. What about walking street? I don't think any girl will go for 1000ST from Airport, Baccara, or Happy. We need more info on prices from guys on the ground.
Can you please help me with a location for Top Charon. Don't recall it as it has been a couple of years since I hgave been able to return. Could be on the scheduls this fall thought.
Thanks
Hi guys, I just need help with the current rates for ST and LT in Bangkok as well as Pattaya as will be visiting these places in a couple of weeks. I promise some good reports, my first time mongering. Show some love people.
Also, am planning "Devil's Den" at Pattaya for sure at least once, may be more. Seems like a worthwhile place to visit. Anyone had bad experience there? Any word of advice would also be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1182160]What other gogos are you guys getting girls to go for 1000ST? It seemed like almost all gogs around LK metro (except Blue) had girls going for 1000ST. What about walking street? I don't think any girl will go for 1000ST from Airport, Baccara, or Happy. We need more info on prices from guys on the ground.[/QUOTE]Everyone negoitates differently and pays different prices. You are in the ball park (which is good) , but may have to pay a little more for the places you mentioned. Just don't be the idiot who is paying 4 or 5k for those girls.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1182185]Can you please help me with a location for Top Charon. Don't recall it as it has been a couple of years since I hgave been able to return. Could be on the scheduls this fall thought.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Are you referring to the Optical shops?