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[QUOTE=Bravo;1504950]Unfortunately, I don't think the prices for the girls will come down after the Olympics. Its almost impossible to convince a gdp that she should lower her price because she will get more business. Once she gets used to asking gringos for 400r for an hour, your going to have a hard time getting her to go for 200R tln.[/QUOTE]Put yourself in her shoes. The Olympics will bring a great number of visitors, be them tourists or people involved, in various levels and tasks with the organization. So the town will have X amount of people more than usual. A good percentage of them will not be un attracted by the fame of Brazil and Rio: the girls. Girls they can mainly access through the P4P (I doubt many romances will be generated between visitors and locals).
So from one side there will be more customers and form the other side the girls will not be many more than usual (even accounting those moving there from other areas in view of potential business) , surely not sufficient to cope with the increase demand. Even if a visitor will only partake a P4P once or twice during his stay. Not a hardcore monger, but will still represent an additional customer.
That already will be a sufficient reason for the girls to stick to their prices.
Another reason will be that the price police can control only a small fraction of the market.
So the visitors will pay what asked as anyhow reasonable if not cheaper than at home, plus the "exotic" factor steps in. Some visitors will never have a chance to sample a garrota again, so they pay whatever. Once in a lifetime opportunity.
Looks at the costs of CSI in Asia: far dearer than the locals and relative few. Still there is people feeding the business as they are in Asia but know they never go to Russia.
Last but not least, within above girl / customers ratio, is it Better to earn 200 by wearing your asset (the juicy buceta) once as you sell it at 200 a pop, or earning the same amount by using it twice as you drop the price by 50% to have "more customers" (but not necessarily more earning)?
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[QUOTE=BionicMan;1505194]Last but not least, within above girl / customers ratio, is it Better to earn 200 by wearing your asset (the juicy buceta) once as you sell it at 200 a pop, or earning the same amount by using it twice as you drop the price by 50% to have "more customers" (but not necessarily more earning)?[/QUOTE]
Copa do Mundo will bring a lot of tourists to Brazil, even though less that the most greedy are expecting. Clearly there will be more GPs around, in Rio just as well in all the other brazilian cities which holds Copa. E.g in Manaus there is a large cruiser coming in the harbour every second week filled with gringo tourists. Like flies on shit there suddenly turns up loads of golddiggers offering their services. Women who normally don't do programs. In Rio there will most likely be lots of fresh talents from Zona Norte.
What the freelancing GPs will charge during Copa nobody knows. They don't reason by logic. Maybe they reason like the Balcony girls. The smart ones ask for R$150-200 but goes down to R$80-100 when necessary and have 2-3 customers in a good evening. Or maybe they do like the stupid majority: sit on their fat asses all evening insisting of getting R$200-300 and only have about 2 customers every week. Business going so bad that they insist of not lowering their prices, or even raising their prices which (by brazilian logics) means that they earn more money.
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World cup... Olympics... Gringos... Tourists..... GDP...
If you all think that the GDP's of Rio and Sampa are waiting in despair for the cheap broke tourists to sell their bucetas during the WC or the O. , then you are all WRONG!
Look at the salary of professionals in Brazil. A 22 years old, entry level- fresh out of college, construction engineer earns a starting salary of 20, 000 Reais a month ( $10, 000 US). With five years experience, the salary jumps to 30, 000 Reais. Construction companies who can't get enough of them , lure them by offering them a signing bonus. His counterpart in the US is LUCKY to get a third of that. Same with IT, doctors, economists, etc.
These are the people the GDP are going after. And there are millions of them. Not the cheap old broke fart tourist pao duro who is crying over 100 Reais and lamenting the old cheap ass days of Rio (me included).
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I trade Foreign Exchange for a living and I couldn't say confidently what the Real will do over the next 2-3 years. Two things I will tell you: 1) The Real is actually weaker now against the USD than it was when I first visited Rio in Feb 2000. Those who first visited Brasil in 2002-2004 probably don't realize how exceptional that time period was. 2) The high prices for visiting / mongering in Brasil are more related to general price inflation than they are to the strength / weakness of the Real.
A huge amount of "hot" money has flowed into Brasil over the last 6 to 7 years because of natural resource discoveries in Brasilian territory. Add to that, the World Cup and the Olympics and that inflow of liquidity has pushed prices of almost everything up in Brasil (how I wish I would have bough property there!). Most things are very expensive for the Brasilians themselves who aren't exchanging anything for those Reals.
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler; 1505057]The Real Currency Will Drop and the Economy of Brazil will fall right after the Olympics. When the Economy is bad, You will have more girls on the street, More Girls mean more competition. Means Less Prices for us.
The Reason why Brazil is so expensive is because everything is inflated due to the World Cup and Olympics. Once those events are over, It will be 1999 all over again.
Read this Article by the Economist on Brazil.
[url]http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21586833-stagnant-economy-bloated-state-and-mass-protests-mean-dilma-rousseff-must-change-course-has[/url][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Combo; 1505279]I trade Foreign Exchange for a living and I couldn't say confidently what the Real will do over the next 2-3 years. Two things I will tell you: 1) The Real is actually weaker now against the USD than it was when I first visited Rio in Feb 2000. Those who first visited Brasil in 2002-2004 probably don't realize how exceptional that time period was. 2) The high prices for visiting / mongering in Brasil are more related to general price inflation than they are to the strength / weakness of the Real.
A huge amount of "hot" money has flowed into Brasil over the last 6 to 7 years because of natural resource discoveries in Brasilian territory. Add to that, the World Cup and the Olympics and that inflow of liquidity has pushed prices of almost everything up in Brasil (how I wish I would have bough property there!). Most things are very expensive for the Brasilians themselves who aren't exchanging anything for those Reals.[/QUOTE]If Eike Batista's recent shenanigans are any indication, the Brazilian economy is in for a world of hurt. It all seems like a house of cards ready to fall. Just 18 months ago, Eike's net worth was $30 billion and today he's just a multi millionaire with his EBX company's holdings declaring bankruptcy due to speculation and empty promises. The economic boom in Brazil is also based on a lot of "potential" and promises to deliver on the world's biggest stage of World Cup and Olympics.
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[QUOTE=Tiradentes; 1505244]Look at the salary of professionals in Brazil. A 22 years old, entry level- fresh out of college, construction engineer earns a starting salary of 20, 000 Reais a month ($10, 000 US). With five years experience, the salary jumps to 30, 000 Reais. Construction companies who can't get enough of them, lure them by offering them a signing bonus. His counterpart in the US is LUCKY to get a third of that. Same with IT, doctors, economists, etc.
These are the people the GDP are going after. And there are millions of them. Not the cheap old broke fart tourist pao duro who is crying over 100 Reais and lamenting the old cheap ass days of Rio (me included).[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what your drug of choice is but it must be very strong. If you Believe for one second that the average starting salary for a 22-year-old fresh out of college in Brazil is US$120, 000 per year in any profession then you obviously don't know much about the Brazilian economy, or the world economy for that matter.
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Hi,
I am coming to Rio in couple weeks so I am doing some preparation for the trip. I tried to contact the Pedido Americano email mentioned in Bubba's guide but no response from them. Does anyone knows that Pedido Americano is still in business? If not, is there similar process that I can get back some of the airfare?
Thanks
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Cafetão
[QUOTE=Jorge Rad10;1505151]As I said she is ready for business but play carefully with her because she could bring more friends who are semi pro.[/QUOTE]Do you also provide GPs who doesn't use steroids?
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Basic Rule
[QUOTE=Sperto;1505383]Do you also provide GPs who doesn't use steroids?[/QUOTE]Never have sex with a woman who can bench more than you.
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Salaries in Brazil
I agree with Mongmann, it is likely you Tiradentes are not very familar with the economy here.
Have a look here [url]http://exame.abril.com.br/carreira/ferramentas/tabela-de-salarios-rh/?empresa=engenharia[/url]
[QUOTE=Mongmann;1505310]I'm not sure what your drug of choice is but it must be very strong. If you Believe for one second that the average starting salary for a 22-year-old fresh out of college in Brazil is US$120, 000 per year in any profession then you obviously don't know much about the Brazilian economy, or the world economy for that matter.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tiradentes]Look at the salary of professionals in Brazil. A 22 years old, entry level- fresh out of college, construction engineer earns a starting salary of 20, 000 Reais a month ($10, 000 US). With five years experience, the salary jumps to 30, 000 Reais. Construction companies who can't get enough of them, lure them by offering them a signing bonus. His counterpart in the US is LUCKY to get a third of that. Same with IT, doctors, economists, etc.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1505244]These are the people the GDP are going after. And there are [b]millions[/b] of them.[/QUOTE]This is the part that threw me off even more. Millions? Since I worked on my MBA in Rio then I should have been above those "millions" of undergrads now earning tons of money in a developing country, but uhhh.
The truth of the matter is that a gdp is going after whichever trick is spending money that day. I don't recall any of them ever being interested in where I attended school or how much money I made. All they were concerned about was how much money I was giving them.
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Finally some news
So in the first good news I've seen in a while, Termas Monte Carlo actually is in the middle of a remodel. They are remodeling all the rooms on the 4th floor (the one with the girls' changing room and the medical examiner's room) , and they also are I believe replacing the massage room (on the 2nd floor with the showers) with a giant suite. Some of the rooms are already done. Basically they are putting rooms that are around 1. 5x-2x as large as the small standard room, completely new. New beds, new walls, and each will have a new bathroom. At a minimum a sink and toilet, and a bunch with showers. See pics attached of one that is already done. It was actually really nice. And while wear and tear will take their toll (I'm expecting quickly, given the quality or lack thereof of most Brasilian reformas) , seeing it right now it was in great shape. Apparently it may actually extend to remodeling the male bathroom on the 2nd floor, though I was told that would be last if it happens. Anyway, take a look in the pics attached and tell me that is not the cleanest, most gleaming white toilet you have ever seen in a Terma.
Of course this all means the city will likely figure out how to close MC down LOL. Anyway, good to see them putting the higher prices to work. And yeah it really is something like 900+ loyalty points now for a free entrada. It does seem that Ivan, the manager guy who greets the tourists, is willing to cut people deals where their entrada goes to consumption etc so don't hesitate to ask him when you are going in. Anything to get punters in the door, it seems.
On the downside, they do really need to change their line up. Way too many thick girls and old faces. Not that I expect it will happen soon. Oh, and by the way, the amazonian (size-wise) Venezuelan "Mel" is back in the lineup after 2+ months away.
By the way, my 1hr room session and some drinks for my girl set me back around R$640 from what I remember. That's without free entrada or consumption. So now we've crossed into the territory of what a girl at Cafe Foto is going to charge you in SP -- except the girls are hotter there than MC's current line up. Sure, MC has the benefit of being on-site etc ... I do LIKE the Terma environment. I sat in the boate for nearly 2 hours as my girl made out with me and expertly played with my willie under my robe, as 5 brasilian chicks gyrated their butts to favela funk (amazing that the US gets so riled up over Miley's twerking when it has been going on in Brasil for years) ... I really enjoyed the whole experience. SP is more costly when you factor in the entrada and drinks to Cafe Foto, PLUS the girl ... on the other hand in Rio you can still get R$200-R$400 hour freelancers who are smoking hot and safada mesma. I guess it's good once in a while to get the Zona Sul T experience.
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[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1505674]So in the first good news I've seen in a while, Termas Monte Carlo actually is in the middle of a remodel.[/QUOTE]Nice to see that they're remodeling. We were just talking not too long ago about how the place was starting to look a little "tired".
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[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1505674]So in the first good news I've seen in a while, Termas Monte Carlo actually is in the middle of a remodel. They are remodeling all the rooms on the 4th floor (the one with the girls' changing room and the medical examiner's room) , and they also are I believe replacing the massage room (on the 2nd floor with the showers) with a giant suite. Some of the rooms are already done. Basically they are putting rooms that are around 1. 5x-2x as large as the small standard room, completely new. New beds, new walls, and each will have a new bathroom. At a minimum a sink and toilet, and a bunch with showers. See pics attached of one that is already done. It was actually really nice. And while wear and tear will take their toll (I'm expecting quickly, given the quality or lack thereof of most Brasilian reformas) , seeing it right now it was in great shape. Apparently it may actually extend to remodeling the male bathroom on the 2nd floor, though I was told that would be last if it happens. Anyway, take a look in the pics attached and tell me that is not the cleanest, most gleaming white toilet you have ever seen in a Terma.
Of course this all means the city will likely figure out how to close MC down LOL. Anyway, good to see them putting the higher prices to work. And yeah it really is something like 900+ loyalty points now for a free entrada. It does seem that Ivan, the manager guy who greets the tourists, is willing to cut people deals where their entrada goes to consumption etc so don't hesitate to ask him when you are going in. Anything to get punters in the door, it seems.
On the downside, they do really need to change their line up. Way too many thick girls and old faces. Not that I expect it will happen soon. Oh, and by the way, the amazonian (size-wise) Venezuelan "Mel" is back in the lineup after 2+ months away.
By the way, my 1hr room session and some drinks for my girl set me back around R$640 from what I remember. That's without free entrada or consumption. So now we've crossed into the territory of what a girl at Cafe Foto is going to charge you in SP. Except the girls are hotter there than MC's current line up. Sure, MC has the benefit of being on-site etc. I do LIKE the Terma environment. I sat in the boate for nearly 2 hours as my girl made out with me and expertly played with my willie under my robe, as 5 brasilian chicks gyrated their butts to favela funk (amazing that the US gets so riled up over Miley's twerking when it has been going on in Brasil for years). I really enjoyed the whole experience. SP is more costly when you factor in the entrada and drinks to Cafe Foto, PLUS the girl. On the other hand in Rio you can still get R$200-R$400 hour freelancers who are smoking hot and safada mesma. I guess it's good once in a while to get the Zona Sul T experience.[/QUOTE]Nice pictures Eric, I hope ALL the money they are investing in Monte Carlo won't go to waste because I been hearing the city have plans to shut down Monte Carlo in about 3-4 weeks, I HOPE it isn't true because when I go there I stay VERY close to MC and can walk there in 8-10mins at a slow pace ALSO can you or someone find out if Solarium is still open I heard it is closed. I REALLY wish Rio NEVER got the World Cup or the games, because once the Termas shut down I may still go there just to chill and shop and eat some of the food I have came to love over the decades BUT as far as finding some fine ass girls that have GREAT asses that love to have them pounded ANAL there is no place on the planet you can find that of course you can find places like DR,Panama, Costa Rica Thailand that are cheaper and have cute girls BUT none of them can match the woman from Brazil when it comes to taking it ANAL and loving it and not that worry or afraid of the size of your dick being to big like the other places I been to.
Kid Cisco
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[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1505674]I really enjoyed the whole experience. SP is more costly when you factor in the entrada and drinks to Cafe Foto, PLUS the girl . on the other hand in Rio you can still get R$200-R$400 hour freelancers who are smoking hot and safada mesma.[/QUOTE]You know someone has been Rio too long when they start writing in Portulish. Reminds me of the Puerto Ricans and Cubans speaking Spanglish.